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From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:19 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Gell vs Lead Acid battery
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 01:27:17 GMT
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My comments were directed in reference to commercial airlines :)

Tom N3XGJ
Jake Brodsky <[e-mail]> wrote:

>1) You can use a ham radio (or anything else) in a private aircraft
>at the discretion of the pilot-in-command (PIC).  Generally for VFR
>flights this is not a problem.  For IFR flights the PIC will probably
>ask you to shut down while conducting the instrument approach (I would).

>2) Gell Cell batteries are widely available still.  Sonnenshine (sp?)
>of Germany makes the best ones I know of on the market.  They will
>deteriorate after about three years of trickle charge.  They are not
>cheap.

>3) Any lead acid or Gell Cell has a pretty low internal resistance and
>will heat up pretty badly if shorted.  That is the hazard with most
>battery packs.  Be careful.

>4) Private airplanes have Lead Acid batteries for starting the engine.
>They are vented, but they will not leak if hit by turbulence or unusual
>attitudes.

>73,
>Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
>PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
>Amateur Radio Station AB3A
>"Beware of the massive impossible!"




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Does anyone know how to convert an AN/PRC-21 to 2 METER? I will soon have
one but it operates 152-174 Mc. When I get the Manual I will have more
info. Thanks
                                       [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 706 cap mods..
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 01:59:40 GMT
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[e-mail](pieter Van Ham) wrote:

>I am shure I am beating a dead horse but... does anyone have a clue on
>how to modify my wonderfull IC-706 to do the CAP split?? It would than
>cover ALL my CAP needs!!
>
>Thanks....

>                  Pieter van Ham :N1401U:N3reo:sq105 CC:

Well, Peter, since you mentioned horses, try getting the information from the
horses mouth - call Icom.

73, Jim KH2D





From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:21 1996
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From: [e-mail](Dave Bushong )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I wish more WIVES would take it up.
Date: 1 Aug 1996 03:28:46 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Strange how you supported that farm animal Dave Bushlong.

I think someone is jealous because he is only half of a farm animal -
the back half, as shown in http://www.qrz.com in the k1oik.gif file.
Unfortunately, the picture didn't show what was on the ground behind
the horse, which is the essence of burt's contribution to this hobby.

More proof, by the way, that those who can, do; those who can't, teach.

Have another drink, burt.  You won't remember any of this in the
morning, from what I hear.

You loser.  You take potshots at people who are trying to improve
themselves, who are trying to learn about ham radio, who are trying to
learn.  You don't even know what a saturated transistor has across its
E-C,... well, now I guess you do, after all the "stupid hams" here
pointed out your ignorance.  Time and time again, you set out to show
that you know something, and the end result is the same: you lower the
average intelligence of any group you visit.  What have you ever done
to improve the hobby?  What have you ever done to improve mankind?
What have you ever done that didn't involve some kind of lubricant in
your right hand?

Oh, and feel free to add some monosyllabic followup to this posting,
like "oh, yeah?!" or maybe "you are known by the friends you keep" or
even "duh".  It speaks volumes about you.

Or maybe one of your totally clever alterations of the original
posting!  Why not change my words and then follow that up??!!  Wow,
that was really funny (in 1980, but not now).

Go ahead.  The world is waiting.

For you to get off of it.




From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:22 1996
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Subject: Where can you buy a ft-470 manual?
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Where can you buy a manual for a yaesu ft-470



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Claude Frantz)
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Subject: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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Where can I find the CFV for rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors ?



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HTX-202 replacement battery?
Date: 1 Aug 1996 09:24:44 -0500
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In <[e-mail]> Steve Eklund <[e-mail]> wr
ites:

>Use the Icom BP-8, which is used on the IC 2AT/02AT HTs. It is a 7.2
>volt high capacity battery. It will make your HT slightly longer, but
>the battery life will be much greater.

I agree.  My BP8 clone battery from Periphex works great.  I've heard
some people gripe about Periphex so if you don't want to use them, find
someone else!  :-)

David


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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The Shadow <[e-mail]> wrote:

>that sounds Good to me
>or use the word  <classic>

>rec.radio.amateur.classic
>or
>rec.radio.classic

Or how about  rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors.please.get.the.hell.out.of.here  ?

Do you guys read newsgroups once a year, or what ??

73, Jim KH2D





From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 11:23:49 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:

>7030KHz is a frequency; so is 7040KHz, and so is 14100KHz.

>However, when you transmit information more than one frequency
>is involved.  Every signal occupies some amount of bandwidth;
>even CW occupies bandwidth like any other AM signal.  A look in
>my Webster's dictionary shows that the salient definition of
>'channel' is 'a narrow band of frequencies used by a radio transmitter'.

>So, Jeff, all of these frequencies you mention are center frequencies
>for CW channels.

Interesting point, Dana. I wonder, for the benefit of those of us who don't ha
ve
the Official ARRL Amateur Radio Handbook, could you please be so kind as
to provide us with a list of the CW channels for the amateur bands ?

I'm particularly interested in 20 meters, myself, so you could start with that
band if you like.

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:27 1996
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Jeffrey Herman" writes:

> The TV and CB services are restricted to fixed frequencies - thus the
> channelization concept. But aren't you glad we amateurs aren't limited
> to fixed frequency operation?

Yup, drifting does show our individuality  :-)

Maybe we're not restricted to frequency channels by the license.
But many (most?) US amateurs do use small fm-only vhf and uhf sets
which do not offer tuning resolutions smaller than 5kHz.  And where
available, a 12.5kHz step would add a few intermediate `channels'.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:28 1996
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From: Gerry Feid <[e-mail]>
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Subject: GPS article
Date: 1 Aug 1996 13:32:36 GMT
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Several months ago, I ran across an article in a magazine about how one
HAM was using GPS to help local Fire/Police departments zero in on call
locations.
Well, I can't find the article, and I wanted to contact the author for
further information on the system he's using. Does anyone have that
information?
I can't remember the magazine. I thought it was either 73 or VHF, but
both companies said they couldn't help me without an issue date or
number.
What I need is this:
Who was doing the experiment? Where? and was there an address for him? If
not, his callsign will do.
Please email me directly. I don't use the usenet very often anymore.

Thank You.

73's  Gerry N9RJV
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Will TS820 CW filter fit in TS130?
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I recently bought a TS130, and already own a TS820.
Only the TS820 has a CW filter.

The pictures in  both manuals show CW filters that look similiar
in dimensions, but different numbers.

Can one fit a TS820 CW filter into a TS130?

If not, where can I get a TS130 CW filter, and how much does it cost?

DE KB0WOB



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:30 1996
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From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Duplex on CB?  CB Repeaters?
Date: 1 Aug 1996 15:38:00 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman) wrote:
>Rick Miller  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>This, of course, leads to whether or not it's legal to set up a
>>CB *repeater*...  though I'm guessing that it's not.  Anyone know why?
>
>It used to be the case that every CB operator had to have a copy of
>Part 95 next to their radio. That part of the federal regs will answer
>your question. Your library will have the complete collection of the CFRs.

A copy of the "CB Rules" of part 95 is still required to be packaged with
every CB sold.

These rules don't clearly explain "why" you can't have a CB repeater.  I
guess that it can be infered that repeaters are not used in a
"...private, two-way, short distance communications service..."

Curtis



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From: [e-mail] (Dick Bingham)
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Subject: HamComm 3.0 software
Date: 1 Aug 1996 15:38:09 GMT
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Greetings!

I need the address and/or phone number for HamComm software version 3.0
or later version. I have an hp-200LX and have been told that the
HamComm 3.0 handles tx/rx of AMTOR, etc.

Anyone have any experience with this s/w? Any info will be appreciated.

73 de w7wkr



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:32 1996
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From: Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: world biggest secret almost lost
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 15:50:54 -1000
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Dont remember exactly the Month issue of QST, but was in 1944 as I recall
when QST leaked info of how the process worked in the first construction
of the A bomb.  It wasnt titled anything like that, as noone had ever
heard of such a thing at the time, but that one edition was quickly
pulled from all newstands etc but some of the subscribers saw it and
wondered what the reference was about.  My mind is fuzzy now but I
remember reading about heating the filament of some kind of a tube,
I think it was a magnetron and using RF power to heat the filament
rather than AC or DC.    Does anybody out there recall that????.
(who knows maybe Im drifting off into Alzeheimers or something).
                   KH6JF (W4FAG at the time during WW2)




From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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michael silva ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >I still have not seen any comment pro or con from either Jack Hill or
: >Philip Porch(the real administrators of the Boatanchors mailing list).

: Jack posted a message of support back when the newsgroup proposal
: resurfaced about two or three months ago.  I didn't save it but no
: doubt somebody can dig it up.

As of yesterday, there was a message of support from Jack in the RFD: thread
on news.groups.

73 de Jim - KF6CR



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Joern Lodahl wrote:
>
> Thus spake Glenn Letts <[e-mail]>:
>
> >Hi Nat,
>
> >JOTA is held the 3rd weekend of Oct. every year.  This year it will be
> >Oct. 19th & 20th.  You need your gear and to be a control op.  It is a
> >great time and open to all scouts, nice to get a few units close and use
> >2m, recruit hams and then go to a roundtable and get units.  Last year
> >we put a station up at our council office and lots of boys came thru.
> >Hope to hear you on, I also hope for a 6m band opening that day.
>
> JOTA is a great opportunity to feel the international spirit without
> using a lot of money going abroad. We have taking part several years
> and will be there again this year!
>
> 73 de OZ2AAN/J  (last year OZ9JAM)
>
> Yours in scouting
>
> jqrn
>
> --
>                                         - I used to be a Falcon...
> Joern Lodahl       [e-mail]      http://www.mi.aau.dk/~jqrn/
> Doing an Industrial Ph.D. in Regional Science/Operations Research.
> We can learn from history that we don't learn from history!

What do you think about a on-line chat during JOTA ?


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:38 1996
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From: T E I X E I R A <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse and speech association?
Date: 1 Aug 1996 16:24:29 GMT
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>I see there is a course out (not mentioning any names) that teaches Morse
>code using speech association.  Every character has a short phrase
>associated with it.

There are many courses out there........if it works,  great.  I think the real
 point is to learn the sound of each character.  That'=
s what this course is doing.  If you learn code by counting dits & dahs you wi
ll never get past the 10 wpm barrier.  This is the rea=
son for the 13 wpm test for general.

Don AC6TG



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
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Jake Brodsky ([e-mail]) writes:
> (complain mode on)
>
> Though I frequently disagree with Burt's point of view (not to mention
> his presentation) I think he has a *very* valid pet peeve here.  The
> art of conversation in Ham Radio is not only dead, it has mutated to
> pointlessness.  I miss the old days of the Rag Chewer's Club.  I miss
> the variety of conversation.  The bands are filled with inane and
> "hi-bye" contacts which last for over an hour.
>
> All this capability for talking around the world --and they can't think
> of a damned thing to say.  That's pathetic.
>
> I'm with you on this one Burt!  How can we keep ham radio attractive
> when the only thing you hear about besides radio talk is some old
> geezer complaining about the surgery he had over a year ago.
>
> (complain mode off)
>
>  73,
>
> Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
> PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
> Amateur Radio Station AB3A
> "Beware of the massive impossible!"


Asking Burt for progressive, constructive input on this topic is like
asking an arsonist to supply new fire prevention measures.
--
73s Frank Sved, VE3GID


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
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Steve King ([e-mail]) writes:
> [e-mail] (Ronald Glanzer) wrote:
>
>>Does anyone now how to modify Radio Shacks 2m mobile radio (HTX-212) so
>>that you can store non-amateur radio frequencies in memory?
>
> I was more upset that I can't use a local repeater because the input
> is 5 kc below the 212's minimum xmit freq.
>
> Steve
> --
> http://www.afn.org/~afn35036  (EL89tq)| "I have never really understood the
> http://www.afn.org/~gars              | rationale behind sports...which
> http://www.afn.org/~quilters          | all seem like exhausting new ways of
> PGP pub key: finger [e-mail]  | getting injured while sweating." -LG
W


Look up Tandy's help sheet on Internet.  You have to use the MARS CAP soft
mod.
--
73s Frank Sved, VE3GID


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Tatro)
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>Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hams suffer from the "I" disease.
>I did this.
>I did that.
>I worked this country, I bought that rig, I got
>my Extra, I am going to
>work the contest, I put up a 30 element 20 meter
>beam, I visited W1AW

OKAY Burt how does this sound.....

  My family worked this country, my city bought
that rig, my state got its Extra, the whole
country is going to work the contest, the whole
flipping world put up a 30 element 20 meter beam.

This is a hobby of individual accomplishments.
Many individuals in this hobby are not keen on
group activities.  As you can see most of the öIö
things you listed cant be done as ôWEö things.


>I work at.....etc etc etc. The only time they say
>"we" is when they
>really mean "I."
>In a contact see if a ham  E V E R  asks YOU
>about  Y O U .

As far as the YOU thing, we all know what YOU are.

Sincerly
Pat N0WCG






From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:42 1996
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This is still under construction, but stop by my web site to check it
out,

http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~crawfors

Stu

Calgary, Alberta, Canada



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Thompson)
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I have an old National NCX-3 HF Radio that is having some problems.  I
just bought this radio and do not know much about it.  One problem is that
it only puts out about 50 watts at best.  I thought this radio should be
capable of 100 watts.  ?  Also when I use the CW key, it puts out much
less power than when I am using the Tune function.  Another problem is
that when I key the CW key the sound wavers at first before setteling on a
pitch.  The sound is not real clear and it changes.

If you can help me with any of these problems PLEASE write me.  Or if you
can refer me to someone who can help that is fine too.  Or if you happen
to have a manual for this radio I could really use that also.

Okay, thanks a lot!

John
WRITE  TO:   [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Stanley Schroeder)
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I'm in the process of setting up a packet station, and if possible I
would like to use an old Mac 512 KE. I just need to get a TNC and the
software. I'm just using an old "Standard" 2 channel crystal radio which
I want to set to my local HAM club's packet station, so for right now I'm
not looking for anything fancy. If all else fails, I have an old "dumb"
terminal which I can use instead of the Mac, but I am a long time Mac
user, so I would like to use the Mac. (If need be I could upgrade the 512
KE to a Plus)
Thanks in advance!
73's
KF6CND
Stan Schroeder
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:45 1996
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From: Steve Wolf <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Antenna patterns for Comet, Diamond base station antennas?
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 18:48:51 -0400
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> I've heard a lot of rumors surrounding these multi-band low-cost high-gain o
mni
> base station antennas wrt beam uptilt, deep pattern nulls & overrated gain
> specs.  Has anyone actually performed an elevation beam pattern measurement
on
> either of these brands?

Our Club repeater was treated to a brand new Diamond in the summer of
.. I think 1992.  Worst damn drought we ever had.  Sucked the water
right out of the air, it did.  We know that's what caused our drought
as the next year we had to replace it due to high SWR.

In taking it apart, we found that the clips used to keep the different
internal parts together were steel.  They ended up being balls of rust.
We then determined that the foam used was open cell.  This allowed the
water to be absorbed in to the foam ... which was next to the clips.

Irregardless of the RF pattern, it sucked water so bad that it ruined
the local farm economy.  Backyard gardeners were heartbroken.  We
went back to our Telwave.

This can be useful.  I just bought a Diamond trunk lid mount for my
car (maybe three weeks ago).  My wife can't understand why my car
looks better than hers.  I just point to the rusted up screws ...
Diamond strikes again ... sucking up all the water so it never rains on
my car.

Hard to believe that products that seem well designed and marketed
can be so damn disappointing when actually in service.

--
73,
Steve
        Internet:  [e-mail]
        Amateur Radio:  no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
        MSYS Mail List:  [e-mail] ('info' for title)


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:46 1996
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Is it your understanding this did not occur prior to 1992?  What planet
were you on?
--

Jim Altman  [e-mail]   non illegitimus carborundum
cserve 74213,1125   http://www.altlaw.com/metro/jaltman.html

Gerry Feid <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<4tqadk$[e-mail]>...
>So don't be stupid enough to blame a Republican Congress for what the
> Democratic appointees are doing. Not only is it incorrect, it's
> indicative of the childish partisan finger-pointing that's been going on
> since 1992.
> Gerry
> N9RJV
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:47 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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I am currently using MT Gold which I obtained from ARRL. It is on one
3-1/2 floppy, and can be adjusted to 100 words per minute and also for
the Farnsworth character rate. I am pleasantly satisfied with the MT
Gold and would highly recommend it to anyone wanting to learn morse
code. Cost was $30.00.
Edward Dunlevy, Republic, Penna., USA


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:48 1996
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Jim S  <[e-mail] (Jim S)> wrote:
>Has anybody noticed that all responses to this thread are being posted to b
>oth rec.radio.cb
>and radio.amateur.misc...?? Jim

Which seems proper since it involved tone signaling on 2M, then on CB.

KH2PZ / KH6


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In Article<4tr2gg$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
> I'm looking for latitude longitude coordinates for Canadian
> cities/towns. Could someone tell me where I can find them on the
> internet?
>
>
> Wayne (RC1720)
>

Wayne,
I'm not sure if it will help you but I have a link on my
ham page that you might look at. It's under my VHF/UHF
Menu as "Where am I"
Could be something, not sure.
Good Luck,
Kyle

http://www.moonstar.com/~wa4pgm/



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Richard Chalk wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
> >I can't express my thoughts
> >Get the hell out of here]
> >
> >WELL FUCK YOU ASS HOLE
>
> Nice to see that my kids can cruise these groups without having to put up wi
th
> bad language...


CHILDREN, CHILDREN.. are'nt we all adults here?


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Ferguson)
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Gerry Feid <[e-mail]> wrote:

>The FCC board are political appointees of the White House, NOT the
>Congress.
>As such, although they are (theoretically) responsible to Congress as a
>whole, they pretty much do as they doggone well please. Fairly much like
>all the current political appointees have done for the last four years,
>just before they all acquire a major case of amnesia when Congress asks
>them why they did what they did.
>So don't be stupid enough to blame a Republican Congress for what the
>Democratic appointees are doing. Not only is it incorrect, it's
>indicative of the childish partisan finger-pointing that's been going on
>since 1992. It also accomplishes absolutely nothing, so save it for the
>political lists - not HAM radio.

>Infantile partisan finger-pointing is NOT going to stop the FCC. In fact,
>it will only help lose our frequencies by embroiling the HAM community in
>useless argument. As such, useless argument like that will only keep us
>from battling the right people, the FCC.

>Definitely make your feelings known on the issue to your Congressman, as
>well as the White House - both Clinton and Gore. But be adult enough to
>state your case clearly, plainly, BRIEFLY, and keep any personal petty
>little political biases out of your statement. Don't threaten anyone with
>your vote, either - that just relegates your letter into the bit-bucket.

>Gerry
>N9RJV

Good idea!  I'd like to make my feelings known in places where making
them known might make a difference.

My feelings are that this discussion should not be cross-posted to
rec.radio.shortwave.  ;-)

Dan






From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:52 1996
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From: Stan Vandiver <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code above 11wpm
Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 23:38:09 -0700
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Scott wrote:
>
> I just got my Novice licence and am going for the Tech + on August 3rd.  I
> was planning on taking the General Class 13wpm code test the same day and
> the theory the next month, but it seems that i've been practicing my code
> for weeks and I just can't seem to get above 11wpm.
>
> Any tips?
>
> Scott, KF6FCN

Well, everybody is different Scott... but the way I made 20wpm was to set the
computer
programs (I used 3 of 'em) at 20wpm, and practice for 3 or 4 short periods per
 day...
not more than about 15-20 minutes each time.  There was no "hump" to overcome.
  Some
say to copy a little "faster" than the test you'll be taking... but I'm not in
to
overkill.  :-)

Day 1 was pretty miserable, as you might guess.  But I copied a little more ea
ch day.
I also saw a pattern developing that I copied better in the mornings than in t
he
evenings... which worked out well since the VE session I went to was always in
 the AM.

But the real "key" (I think that's a pun!) is practice, practice, practice...
and then
be confident in yourself when you go take the test.  I'm a VE now, and I've se
en way too
many people fail because of nervousness... on both code and theory.  Most VE's
 don't
bite, we're not God (or the FCC), and we don't enjoy seeing people fail.  Be c
alm, and
if you miss something and get hung-up, try to recover from it as fast as you c
an and
start copying again!

Its always great to see folks like yourself going for their upgrades... keep i
t up,
and the very best of luck to you!
--

73, Stan
AX.25: KD9BE @ KD9BE.#NWIN.IN
WWW: http://www.pla-net.net/~kd9be/


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Free mobile telephone unit
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No response from anyone on .swap, so, I have an older 800 MHz mobile
telephone transceiver (floor mount) with no control head (handset).
Made by Matsushita (Panasonic). You can have it for just the cost
of postage (maybe $10 to $15).

Jeff KH2PZ / KH6


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Reisert)
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Look for a program called something like AZPROJ

--
Jim Reisert <[e-mail]>
http://www.tiac.net/users/ad1c/



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Ellmore)
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Subject: HTX-212 Help
Date: 2 Aug 96 03:38:48 GMT
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>
> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 13:55:38 GMT
> From: [e-mail] (Steve King)
> Subject: Radio Shack HTX-212 modification
>
> [e-mail] (Ronald Glanzer) wrote:
>
> >Does anyone now how to modify Radio Shacks 2m mobile radio (HTX-212) so
> >that you can store non-amateur radio frequencies in memory?
>
> I was more upset that I can't use a local repeater because the input
> is 5 kc below the 212's minimum xmit freq.
>
> Steve
> -------

Steve,

Take a look at the premiere issue of CQ VHF, Jan/Fef 1996 ([e-mail]).  On
 page 56
there is a good review of the HTX-212.  It is suggested you store frequency yo
u can't
transmit on in one of the two VFO memories.  If you need to work a non-standar
d repeater
configuration, you can make the changes through the built-in menu by extending
 the
transmit coverage.  If you can find it in your manual, try the author of the a
rticle
Rich Moseson, NW2L or your Radio Shack salesman.  I wish I could give you spec
ific
details but this should help.  I  haven't needed to make such changes to my HT
X-212
configuration since I got it last weekend.  All of the repeaters in my area fo
llow the
recommended ARRL guidelines.

7 3

Doug, N3XQP


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From: [e-mail] (Zack Widup)
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In a previous article, [e-mail] (The Shadow) says:

>I can't express my thoughts
>(&etc)
>(&etc)
>(&etc)
>

I always figured that the people who used that as a response had an IQ no
bigger than the average shoe size and so had nothing witty to say.

In other words, DEFENSELESS IN A BATTLE OF WITS.

73, Zack W9SZ

--
"You can't be optimistic with a misty optic" - Rex Luscus



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:44:58 1996
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From: Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARL message meanings? (ARL 69)
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 09:23:36 -0700
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Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]  writes:
>
> > This one is a new proposal from one of the NTS head honchos, so it's
> > only on the latest lists, such as
> >         ftp://ve7tcp.ampr.org/arrl/infoserv/fsd/radiogrm.txt
> > which I found via my local ARRL section's homepage's NTS page:
> >         http://www.temples.com/arrl/emafield/nts.html
> >
> > SIXTY NINE   Welcome to the _______.  We are glad to have
> >              you with us and hope you will enjoy the fun
> >              and fellowship of the organization.
>
> It's in the current ARRL Operating Manual (edition 5 of March 1995 on
> page 17-154) that exact way, so I assume that the proposals have
> now been accepted.
>
> Regards,
> --
>    Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
>                                                 [e-mail]
>                                         packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na
I have seen this ARL Number used exclusively by the QCWA in welcoming new
members.

73  Joe N7JEH, Nevada SEC


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From: Russell Wells <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: I wish more WIVES would take it up.
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 Thank you from every lady who may have thought about getting into
the hobby!!!! I really think you men should think a liy\ttle bit more
aout what you say ! why cant women be as smart as you are Ive already
built antennas for my equipment and I have had come ons from the guys
like you .We are all tired of people like you putting us down If you
listen and traet us with equality you just might learn something
sometimes you pigs  really show your intelligence here .Comments like
your is what makes me totally sick ! women are as smart as men and our
brain capacity is larger thats why we can do anything that you guys can
do! I passed my test THe first time when I know 2 gentlemen who failed !
Thanks alot ......
L.Wells
KF4GYR



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From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Curt Phillips wrote:

>>   Not true, not true, not true.
>>   Often after I have been talking about my station for a while I'll
>> say,  "But enough about what *I* think... what do YOU think about my
>> station."

>You want to know what the other guy thinks about YOUR station.
>You do not give a damn about his station.
>You proved my point.
>Thank you.

Sounded like a joke to me, Burt.  I laughed when I read it.  Guess you
didn't catch on.  That makes me laugh too!  Yes, you proved a point, but
not the one you wanted to.

BTW - your comments to our German friend were uncalled for.  Going for
"Ugly American of the Year" there Burt?

KE6JPO


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From: [e-mail] (James D. Cronin)
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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In article <4tc2rj$[e-mail]>,
Jim Kehler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>...
>the result of a civil law suit ?  Is there a special radio prison for
>bad hams ?

Yes, it's called a condominium...

73..Jim

>
>73, Jim KH2D
>
>




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[e-mail] (James W. KELLEY) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Curt Phillips wrote:

>>>   Not true, not true, not true.
>>>   Often after I have been talking about my station for a while I'll
>>> say,  "But enough about what *I* think... what do YOU think about my
>>> station."

>>You want to know what the other guy thinks about YOUR station.
>>You do not give a damn about his station.
>>You proved my point.
>>Thank you.

>Sounded like a joke to me, Burt.  I laughed when I read it.  Guess you
>didn't catch on.  That makes me laugh too!  Yes, you proved a point, but
>not the one you wanted to.

>BTW - your comments to our German friend were uncalled for.  Going for
>"Ugly American of the Year" there Burt?

>KE6JPO
Tonight at 8, be sure to catch the dry wit of Curt and Burt,  as they
trade wacky barbs as only they can...
Dave Rickmers
[e-mail]



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Subject: ARLP032 Propagation de KT7H
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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP032
ARLP032 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP52
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 32  ARLP032
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  August 2, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP032
ARLP032 Propagation de KT7H

Last week in ARLP031 we reported the solar flux on July 24 was
66.7.  It was really 66.2.

Solar activity has taken a jump this week, due to the return of
solar region 7978.  The average solar flux was up about 10 points,
and the flux is peaking now above 80.

Geomagnetic activity is also up, with the K index reaching four on
July 29 and 31.

Watch for solar flux to stay around or above 80 for the next few
days, dropping down below 70 by August 9.  It should rise up to 70
around August 22.

During this period 20 meters should be the best band during the
day, and 40 meters at night.

Sunspot Numbers for July 25 through 31 were 0, 11, 13, 16, 22, 28
and 34, with a mean of 17.7.  10.7 cm flux was 68.2, 70.2, 73.3,
75.5, 77.9, 79.9, and 80.2, with a mean of 75.
NNNN
/EX


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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: BEWARE OF JON VAN ALLEN, KF7YN, IN SALT LAKE CITY
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Tim English wrote:

> Lesson learned here ? DONT TRUST ANYONE anymore. Hams will rip you off as mu
ch
> as the next guy so BEWARE !

Actually I find hams to be more honest than most.
Boring, fat, dull, white, lazy but honest.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
#======================================================================#


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: ARL message meanings? (ARL 69)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Utopia Planetia Shipyards - Mars
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In article <[e-mail]> Joe Giraudo <[e-mail]> writes:
-Anthony R. Gold wrote:
->
-> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]  writes:
[ARL SIXTY NINE?]

-I have seen this ARL Number used exclusively by the QCWA in welcoming new
-members.

Actually, it was created for Ted Sharp (K6UYK) of the SSA (Soaring Society of
America - a glider group), however, more and more organizations are
starting to use it...

/mike
--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai        N1IST       [e-mail]     \|/
-*- === Boston Amateur Radio Club:  http://www.barc.org/barc === -*-
/|\       or send "info barc-list" to [e-mail]        /|\


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Duplex on CB?  CB Repeaters?
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C. Wheeler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman) wrote:

>>Internal changes would have to be performed to the radio to make it a
>>repeater. Part 95 prohibits that.

>Internal changes to a tranmsitter....that's right.

Since CB transceivers must be type-accepted, and the receiver contains
an oscillator whose emissions must be below a certain level, one wonders
whether even mucking around with the receiver risks voiding type-acceptance.
(This query is not related to your idea of using two xcvrs back-to-back
to get around performing any internal changes.)

KH2PZ


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In article <[e-mail]> Bob Sull <[e-mail]>
writes:
> Jonathan David Bhatia wrote:
> >

snip
>
> I have the Larsen KG2/70 on the rear window of my '94 T-Bird.
Works pretty well,
> BUT.....
>
> I run a Yaesu FT-5200, 50 W on 144 and 35 W on 440.  When on high
power on 144 and I'm
> using cruise control and I press the PTT sw, the cruise shuts down
till I release the
> PTT.  Sorta like pressing the coast switch.....
>
> I talked with the Chrysler guys at Dayton and was told that the
majority of problems are
> associated with glass mount antennae.  I got a mobile radio
installation guidline
> pamphlet from Ford and the list of antennae had the glass mount
listed as least
> desirable.
>
> OK, I also have a '95 T-Bird.  I have an Alinco DR-610-T in it.
Same power on 144.  The
> antenna is a Larsen 2/70 NMO on a trunk lip mount.  I don't
experience the cruise
> problem.
>

For what it's worth, I use the Larsen KG2/70 With a Standard *xxx
(mental block - can't remember the number), 50W on 2m and 35 on 70cm.
I've observed no problems with it effecting, or being affected by,
electronics in my '95 Toyota T100 pickup.

Tony   KC7HDT



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:11 1996
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From: steve <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WHERE IS THE 40M SWAP NET?
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 22:18:51 -0700
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j. selby wrote:
>
> HAVE LISTENED SEVERAL  TIMES AND HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE SWAP NET
> MEETS. WAS TOLD ITS ON 40M. CAN U SUPPLY ME WITH TIME AND FREQ? MANY
> THANKS.    JERRY    N1UMH

there is one in sixland at 12:30 +/- sat.&sun. on 7240 +/-
73 steve


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daugherty)
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Subject: MALICIOUS INTERFERENCE
Date: 3 Aug 96 03:00:38 GMT
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hello,
I'm writing to tell you of a problem I'm having with a group of radio
operators. i would like to know what you think. every night between the
hours of 12:00pm to 1:00am CST me and another radio operator, WB9YHQ get on
146.955 MHz. and chat. Now WB9YHQ has PL Tone and I don't so I have to talk
simplex on 146.955. Now the people complaining are not on at that time and
when they are on they make noises and tell me to get PL Tone and harassing
me by threating to get a restraining order so i can't talk on the
frequecies. Now one of the persons who is complaining gave me his microphone
because mine went out last summer. He then recored me and played it to the
field office of the FCC to back his case that i was talking simplex on a
repeater frequency. They claim that a new Public Law was passed and was
published in the ARRL NEW FCC RULE BOOK by Norm Bliss WA1CCQ. this so call
new public law was a letter written to the Tri State Repeater council by the
FCC back in 1983 to settle a Dispute between a coordinated and a none
coordinated repeater. It has nothing to do with me nor is it a "new law".
One evening another ham operator came on and he too dose not have PL tone
they told him to come back anytime. One evening I was talking to WB9YHQ and
I told him I was sick of what was going on and was going to run a MUD on
packet and these same people go on and asked what Frequency it was going to
be on 147.555 MHz which is a packet frequency. they informed me if I put it
on that frequency that would complain that I'm causing interference to their
packet units. now MUD also run timesharing like the rest of packet. they
have even threated to get a restraining order on me to keep me off that
frequency as well. Now you would think  they would be happy i'm leaving
146.955 MHz. but No! they have to complaining about that too. Now WB9YHQ
had no problem with me talking on 146.955 the only ones who are complaining
is these people not on the radio at that time. I feel also that there is no
problem and since WB9YHQ is the control operator they i feel they have no
say in the matter. And if one of them knew it was illegal why did he give me
his microphone and isn't what he did by playing for to the FCC entrapment?
so what do you think.?

73 Todd N9OGL
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (a friend)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Aan Adriaan uit Apeldoorn, Laat meisje uit Leiderdorp met rust.
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 10:08:11 GMT
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"Beste" Adriaan.
We weten meer dan voldoende van je uitspattingen op het net.
Ook weten we dat je via deze groep mail post namens haar.
Ze wil niets meer met je te maken hebben en jij hebt nu ook een
vriendin met kind.
Laat haar met rust !
De volgende maatregel is een klacht en mailbomb bij je provider, eens
kijken hoe lang je je internet aansluiting nog kan misbruiken.
Bestel ook niet namens of voor haar een band van de conventie zoals je
pas hebt gedaan.
Laat haar met rust !!!
We hebben je e-mail naam en provider.
Doe normaal, bemoei je met je eigen zaken en wij laten je verder met
rust.
Zo niet ??
Je bent gewaarschuwd en ligt sneller van internet dan je denkt.

een vriend.



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:14 1996
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From: Peter Lemken <[e-mail]>
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> The kind of trafik generated by Mr Burton Fisher here on the
>> Net would simply and fortunately be *forbidden* over the air.
>> Surely you followed his long flame war on german amateurs
>> and nazis. There is nothing positive to such input, only
>> may be for some brain-dead nationalists.
>
>It what way will anything I have said be forbidden on the air?

In the way that traffic on the air explicitly has to *ex*clude any
messages that contain either political propaganda and the pursuit of one's
own economic interest.

>Read "Hitlers Willing Executioners", a best seller in this country.

Why should I? I visited the Holocaust museum in D.C. and almost puked. Is
that good enough for you?

>You will read that ordinary Germans made the holocaust possible.

No one doubted that. But that was 3 generations ago.

>You will read that even after Himmler ordered the killing of Jews to stop
>ORDINARY Germans, like you, kept killing and torturing.
>                  ^^^^^^^^

That actually is the greatest bullshit I have ever read on usenet. You are
insinuating that a student like Moritz is capable of killing and
torturing. My, oh my, your brain really needs some rest, Burt. Why don't
you go to a local library and do some reading about your own ancestors.
Keywords: Anglo-Saxons, Germany, England United States of America. Unless
you are Jewish and can show a clear line of family history without any
Anglo-Saxon blood in the last 400 years, of course. In that case, however,
I would strongly advise you to refraih from speaking as THE American.
Also, you should get a callsign from Israel and sign W1/4X4LID in the
future.

Get a life, Burt.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT/KE4UNQ



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:15 1996
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From: Steve Eklund <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DSS satellite information needed
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 10:43:32 -0700
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Hi All!

I know this is not related to ham radio, but I figured that my best
chance of obtaining the information I need would be through somebody
here. I have to install a DSS system at a bar/nightclub that I work at.
We need to be able to show 6 separate events using the DSS system, so I
guess I need 6 separate receivers. My question is if anybody knows where
on the Internet that I can get good information about setting up a system
such as this. Any advice will be appreciated. Plese respond via E-mail
to:

[e-mail]

Thanks!

73 de WA3RVT, Steve


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: Cookie Monster's Not Happy
Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 11:11:20 GMT
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[e-mail] (Frank Sved) wrote:

>Jim's right to a certain degree.  The only thing irritating is that he
>says things that are "supposed" facts.  Like WE are happy for you ... and

'We' means me an my dog.

>on, and on, and on.  No offence but I'm not happy for anyone.  Actually
>I'm not even happy for myself.
>--
>73s Frank Sved, VE3GID

Sounds like a personal problem, Frank. Go get some help.

73, Jim KH2D




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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 11:13:42 GMT
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Jim S <[e-mail] (Jim S)> wrote:

>Has anybody noticed that all responses to this thread are being posted to bot
h rec.radio.cb
>and radio.amateur.misc...?? Jim

What ??? Only TWO newsgroups ??? That's unusual.
Why doesn't someone add a few more........

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curt Sanders)
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Come visit! Netscape or Internet Explorer recommended to appreciate the site.


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steven Umbach)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WHERE IS THE 40M SWAP NET?
Date: 3 Aug 1996 20:58:19 GMT
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Jerry. There are two that I know of. One on Saturday morning and one on
Sunday morning. Both are on 7.275. I am not sure of the times - around
8:30 or 9:30 am your time. The Saturday net is for old tube type gear and
the Sunday one is a big one from Georgia where all ham gear cab be listed.

                                                       Good luck ---
Steve N9ROU



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Thompson)
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Hello all, My name is Greg and I am in the Army. I am on orders for
Germany, specifically Wiesbaden. If anyone from that area can give me
the freqs that they use for packet radio and other things in the area
and also any clubs or whatnot I would like to know. I already have the
paperwork to get a recipical license for over there and am excited
about it. Thanks in advance.

73




From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (A.G. von Luternow)
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Subject: Re: Crystal Control
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On 28 Jul 1996 23:46:28 GMT, "Gary Coombs" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Anyone remember the year Novice Class operators got to start using crystal
>control?
>
>Gary, K9IDU
>(Who remembers being a novice in 1957 and that's all we had!)

        I believe it was in the mid 70s when the FCC decided that
novices could use VFOs and 250 watts input. It was the same time that
WN calls ceased to be issued to novices and novices with WN calls
received new callsigns, ie WN1XYZ became WA1XYZ.
        At the time this occurred I had passed my General but had not
received my new ticket. I remember being excited when I came home from
class to find an envelope from the FCC in my mailbox. I was very
suprised to see an "upgraded" callsign on my ticket but the class was
still novice. About two weeks later my general came.
        Talk about pain-in-the-butt callsigns, I was WN1VKN. That
caused some confusion in the novice segments! Even so I had a lot of
fun with a few rocks, an Eico 720 and a HR-10.  The antenna was a long
wire up about 40 feet fed with a homebrew tuner. I managed to work a
little DX, KH6, LZ and ZF come to mind.
        Now that I think about it, at about the same time the
previously mentioned changes occurred, I believe the novice ticket
became renewable. Anyway I am sure of the time frame.

73 de n4jvp
Fritz


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:22 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Gerald Schmitt wrote:

> Burt does little but bitch and apparently stir up trouble on 20 meters.
>
> Caught a packet message from the Bertster where he is threatening to
> get even with someone who insulted him on 20 meters. He brags about
> challenging the fellow to "tell me that to my face" apparently an
> invitation to a physical confrontation. They guy Burt is challenging is
> 71 years old, gutsy move Burt.

The guys lives down the street, he also has friends that are bigger than me.
I invited him to bring along any friends he wished. He has not the guts
to even do that. He made his remarks thinking I was not around (more guts uh?)
I have challenged all ages. Maybe you would like to speak face to face?



> Burt I do agree WA1AOH should not have called you scum; it is an insult
> to scum everywhere. Have a nice non-confrontational weekend.

And you agree it was OK for him to insult my wife? He further
tried to expose me with false rumours in front of my daughter.
The guy is as phoney as they come. There is not a butt he has not
kissed .


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
#======================================================================#


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:23 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Timewave DSP-59+
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 09:11:25 -0700
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Clifford H. Gieseke wrote:
>
>. ... Could the unit I have be defective? Its performance
> is nowhere near what the company describes in its literature????
>

Cliff

I had one of the original Timewaves ($300) and it wasn't worth
anything either.  I sold it.  Yours isn't defective.  You can find
them for sale all over the place.....must tell you something

Henry


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond T. Gramas)
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Subject: Need schematic ICOM 230 mobile
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Tnks to anyone who can direct me to the schematic for the ICOM 230 mobile.
Ray ka9itz


From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Gold)
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Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:

: You're certainly correct that bandwidth sets a limit to how many
: active channels can occupy a given amount of spectrum, but that doesn't
: mean that there aren't an infinite number of channels.

It does to me.

:                                                           People are
: still confused by the "40 channels AM, 80 channels SSB" claims made
: for some CB radios.  We all know that there aren't 120 channels in
: CB that can be used at the same time, but there are 120 channels
: one can choose from. ;-)

A large but finite number of channels multiplied by a finite number of
modes will still yield a finite product.  I still can't get that final
step from very large to infinite.

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From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:26 1996
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Subject: Re: WHERE IS THE 40M SWAP NET?
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steve <[e-mail]> wrote:

>j. selby wrote:
>>
>> HAVE LISTENED SEVERAL  TIMES AND HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THE SWAP NET
>> MEETS. WAS TOLD ITS ON 40M. CAN U SUPPLY ME WITH TIME AND FREQ? MANY
>> THANKS.    JERRY    N1UMH

>there is one in sixland at 12:30 +/- sat.&sun. on 7240 +/-
>73 steve
Up here in Upper MI. I hear the Georgia 40 meter traders net on Sunday
late morning till noonish on 7.275Mhz.



From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glenn Thomas)
Subject: Re: ARES/NTS/RACES with just an HT?
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Yes - an HT with a spare (fully charged) battery and sundry appropriate
antennas are all the EQUIPMENT you really need. The rest of what you need
is training on how to provide formal communications, familiarity with
the agencies you will be serving and an attitude to be a communicator,
even if the radio turns out to be an agency or some other non-Ham
but legal radio.

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From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (kEN Colburn)
Subject: Some ants don't need guy wires?
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Neighbor has huuuge ,60ft? ham ant, on a trianglur shaped tower looks like
Yagi with no guy wires. Friend was worried it might fall down. He doesnt
use it ,jsut moved in there. Doesn't need guy wires?
2) how would  u get it down?
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From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John R. Cunliffe)
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Subject: Re: German Ham Radio
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>John R. Cunliffe wrote:
>>
>> Not a place where you should be Burt.

>I can understand why you say that with your Jew hating Ruthie.
>Can we try 75 meters again?

sorry Burt but our antennas are mostly down due to reconstruction of
the beam's. As soon as the 80m wire beam is back up I will let you
know here on the news group include time and date.
Your private mail to our accounts on the internet is filtered out so
this will be your only means for contact. Open for everybody to read
and join.
Regards
John
>
>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
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John R. Cunliffe  N2NEP
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From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John R. Cunliffe)
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Tim Hynde wrote:
>>
>> Hey Burt I have a news flash for you, when you make the kind of irresponsib
le
>> posts that you make there is a good chance people are going to say unkind t
hings
>> about you and possibly your family.
>
>> Based on all the unkind and downright rude things you have posted I cant be
live
>> you have the balls to cry about someone spreading rumours in front of your
>> daughter or insulting your wife.

>Attack me, OK. But what is the point of attacking people that were
>not in any way involved? So I can attack your wife if you get me mad?

But he is attacking my wife for comments I made.
Nice doing Burt.



>
>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
>#================#=====================================================#
>| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
>#======================================================================#

=====================================
John R. Cunliffe  N2NEP
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From [e-mail] Mon Aug 05 11:45:33 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
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Subject: Re: The "I" man is a ham HI HI
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>   [e-mail] (Robert Casey) writes:
>  oh, you didn't mean to talk about Imus in the morning?  nevermind.... :-)
>
>
>>>>
i don care if it rains or freezes
long as i got my plastic jesus
mounted on the dashboard of my car
i can go a hundred miles an hour
long as i gots the almight power
glued up there by my pair of fuzzy diii ice

Hi ya friends  the right reverend Dr Bill Sol Hargus
coming at you from DelRio Texas,
The goldend buckle of the bible belt...........


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:10 1996
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From: Steve Bramham <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: "GMRS Personal Radio?"  What is that?
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Abraham Stavsky wrote:
>
> I recently saw an ad for a "GMRS personal radio"
> being sold at Radio Shack.  Can anyone elucidate me
> on what this is?  The ad went on to say, "FCC license
> required."  What frequencies are we talking about here?
> What kind of wattage would an HT of this type have??

The GMRS service has been around for some time now. The frequencies used
are in the 467MHz range and power is limited to 50 watts. You can apply
for a license that your immediate family may use the radios.  There are
both simplex and repeater pairs available. When I was still in the
two-way business I had two GMRS repeaters in operation in the Atlanta
area. Reliable coverage was in excess of a 40-mile radius from the
repeater location.  GMRS formerly allowed business use of the
frequencies but this has been discontinued. However there are still some
businesses that were grandfathered in.

Good service to use for family communications. No phone patches allowed
however.

Hope this helps some.

Steve Bramham


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: "GMRS Personal Radio?"  What is that?
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In article <[e-mail]> Phil Sussman <[e-mail]> writes:
>Abraham Stavsky wrote:
>>
>> I recently saw an ad for a "GMRS personal radio"
>> being sold at Radio Shack.  Can anyone elucidate me
>> on what this is?  The ad went on to say, "FCC license
>> required."  What frequencies are we talking about here?
>> What kind of wattage would an HT of this type have??
>
>The FCC recently authorized the "Family Radio Service" on the
>12.5KHz offset channels (those in between GMRS authorized freqs)
>with the GMRS band. There are perhaps 5-15... I can't recall the
>number. It is a 'new' low powered (500mw or less) radio service
>which uses only portable radios with NO external antenna jack (yet)
>and (as I understand it) and internal antenna.
>
>It was petitioned by Radio Shack a couple of years ago and seeks
>to offer short range communications to families at camp grounds
>or within neighborhoods. No repeaters, yet, but transmitting
>from on top of a flag pole..... hmmmmm.....

Radio Shack isn't yet selling radios for the FRS. The radios
Abe saw advertised are for GMRS. Radio Shack has been selling
GMRS radios for a number of years. GMRS is what used to be
called Class A CB. It is UHF. Repeaters, mobiles, and handheld
radios are allowed. Power levels are similar to those permitted
in the Land Mobile service. HTs may be 1, 2, or 5 watts. In fact,
most land mobile service radios can be used for GMRS. It is a
licensed service.

The FRS is brand new, and no manufacturer has yet gotten Type
Acceptance for equipment to operate in the FRS. The target
date for availability is likely Christmas. It is an unlicensed
service operating in the "cracks" between GMRS channels using
low power, half watt max, and 2.5 kHz deviation. No external
antennas allowed.

This service may be a nuisance to GMRS users for a while, but
Land Mobile and GMRS are slated to have to convert to 2.5 kHz
deviation too in the near future. When that happens, there will
be no overlap between FRS and GMRS channels. The presence of
FRS stations may act as an incentive for GMRS stations to
convert over early in the phase in period.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David R. Tucker)
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Subject: Re: "GMRS Personal Radio?"  What is that?
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Steve Bramham <[e-mail]> writes:

> There is nothing in the rules to prevent changing whatever you want to
> use your repeater system. I know, I use to run two GMRS repeaters and we
> would charge from as low as $25.00 per month for mom and pop,  to up to
> $200.00 per month for business use. We did make a profit on repeater
> useage.

Huh?

   47 CFR 95.33(a)(3) A [GMRS] station may be shared only:

   i. Without charge;
   ii. On a non-profit basis, with ... expenses ... prorated equitably ...;or
   iii. On a reciprocal basis ... without charge.

(Oct 93)

Pretty clear prohibition.


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[e-mail] (Ohrstal Fembrock) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Bill Sheehan) wrote:

>>Ralph R Crapia <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>Only if you mean it.
>>>
>>don't you mean there should be a colon between **** you and asshole.
>>oops, he meant to post this to another news group.
>>


>Isn't a colon an asshole? Hmmm, I'm cornfuzed.

actually the colon comes before the asshole




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From: [e-mail] (Mike Freeman)
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In article <[e-mail]>, csupak  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I've been told that the 147.435 2M repeater in Los Angeles has a
>homepage, of sorts, and I'd like the URL if anyone knows it, please.
>
Lordy!  If the web page is anything like the content of the usual QSOs on
that machine, your monitor would blush as soon as your browser made the
connection :-) :-)!
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From: [e-mail] (Richard F. DiDonna)
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: In article <4u119p$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Sc
ott) writes:
: >On Aug 03, 1996 15:19:43 in article <.435 repeater in L.A. homepage?
: >Where?>, 'csupak <[e-mail]>' wrote:
: >>I've been told that the 147.435 2M repeater in Los Angeles has a
: >>homepage, of sorts, and I'd like the URL if anyone knows it, please.
: >>
: >147.435? Damn!  That's the most messed up repeater in all of L.A. area.  I
: >listened to it once and all they do is sear, threaten, talk gay (i don't
: >mean happy), and talk about sex!
: >
: >It's sleeze!
: >
: I'm still a bit puzzled why the FCC (evne with their limited resources)
: haven't jumped on this mess.  If I was the owner/trustee, I'd probably
: convert this machine to high speed packet use only.

: At the hamfest, someone said this machine is like a "Roach Hotel", that
: the roaches would scatter and contaminate the other machines if shut
: down.  I don't think I necessarly buy this arguement....

: I use profanity as much as the next guy, but not on the air.

435 has almost always been zoo for the LA area.  Just look at the fact
that it is on an oddball frequency and its input frequency is something
like 1.035 megs away.  When they do shut the thing down - which is not
often, the characters do seem to go and infect other machines.  I'd
say leave them there.

Rich
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Garver)
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Subject: Re: .435 repeater in L.A. homepage? Where?
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In article <4u7tb7$[e-mail]>,
>>I've been told that the 147.435 2M repeater in Los Angeles has a
>>homepage, of sorts, and I'd like the URL if anyone knows it, please.

My searches found nothing on the web about that but I've heard that
there is an uncoordinated repeater in the PDX area on  147.435 Mhz
using a -1.035 input.  It must be in honor of the famous Roach Radio
Resort down South.

If you ever visit LA, BTW, bring a 222 Mhz radio.

--
[e-mail]          WA7LDV            I don't speak for Intel


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From: "Charles P. Hobbs" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: .435 repeater in L.A. homepage? Where?
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[e-mail] (Robert Casey) wrote:
>In article <4u119p$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Sco
tt) writes:
>>On Aug 03, 1996 15:19:43 in article <.435 repeater in L.A. homepage?
>>Where?>, 'csupak <[e-mail]>' wrote:
>>>I've been told that the 147.435 2M repeater in Los Angeles has a
>>>homepage, of sorts, and I'd like the URL if anyone knows it, please.
>>>
>>147.435? Damn!  That's the most messed up repeater in all of L.A. area.  I
>>listened to it once and all they do is sear, threaten, talk gay (i don't
>>mean happy), and talk about sex!
>>
>>It's sleeze!
>>
>I'm still a bit puzzled why the FCC (evne with their limited resources)
>haven't jumped on this mess.  If I was the owner/trustee, I'd probably
>convert this machine to high speed packet use only.
>
>At the hamfest, someone said this machine is like a "Roach Hotel", that
>the roaches would scatter and contaminate the other machines if shut
>down.  I don't think I necessarly buy this arguement....
>

About a year or two ago, this machine was down, and I did hear a few
of its "members" on other machines. Most acted o.k., but a couple
were up to their old tricks (jamming, etc.)

>I use profanity as much as the next guy, but not on the air.




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:21 1996
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From: Julian Sortland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 3D2PI
Date: 8 Aug 1996 16:46:08 GMT
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Hi,

Just a short addition to my previous message about 3D2PI.

Peter is using a VK2 QSL manager, so please don't mail cards to his
callbook address in Australia.

He is near / at Vanuatu now, and mainly using 7050 kHz with sked
times at 0100 and 2030 UTC.

73 de Julian, VK2YJS
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:22 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: 4 sale rf test gear + other stuff
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for immediate sale: audio stuff and electronic test equipment

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2) 2 pair Sequerra Met 7 MkII
3) 3 pair Sequerra Met 8 MkII
4) 2 pair Sequerra 10-4
5) 2 pair Sequerra 10-8
6) 1 Altec 604A
7) 1 pair one of a kind Sequerra SIG MkII
8) RFL Ind., gaussmeter model #505
9) B&K, 2 ch mike supply, type 2803
10) B&K, artificial voice #?
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14) Gen Rad, random noise generator, model 1381
15) Boonton, RF admittance bridge model 33A
16) Keithley, nanovolt meter, model 148
17) Marconi, Q meter, TF1245
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19) Tek, storage o-scope 7313 w/ new crt
20) HP, vector impedance meter model 4800A
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203-325-0263
thank you!



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:23 1996
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From: Bob Sull <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: A CQ Magazine BEEF or HAM!
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Frank Sved wrote:
>
> Two beefs with CQ:
>
>         1. There are only middle aged white men on the cover as someone
>            else pointed out.  Don't get CQ, never noticed.  Maybe middle aged
 men are young
        to the editors.....
>         2. Product reviews are usually advertisers.  Coincidence?
>       No big surprise here.  This is the same in photography.  In     the photo aren
a, it seems that the more $$$$$$$$$ the better
        the review.  Coincidence?  Inquiring minds want to know!

> --
> 73s Frank Sved, VE3GID

--
            <> Bob Sull  WA8IMO <>
   "73, CUL, es keep the FUN in Ham radio."
>Life Member-ARRL  QCWA< >Member-NODXA  NCDXF<           >DXCC  WAS  RCC <  >8
P9BC<
             >QSL Mgr for 8P6JG<
          >WA8IMO@NO8M.#NEOH.OH.USA<
             >[e-mail]<






From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE: A CQ Magazine BEEF or HAM!
Date: 7 Aug 1996 12:44:31 GMT
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Steven Sampson ([e-mail]) writes:
>>Two beefs with CQ:
>>
>>      1. There are only middle aged white men on the cover as someone
>>           else pointed out.
>>
>>      2. Product reviews are usually advertisers.  Coincidence?
>>
>>73s Frank Sved, VE3GID
>
> 73 is all you need.  It means "Best Regards"  there is no word
> "Best Regardss".
>
> That's because Part 97 rules and most licensees are white (over 50,
> and fat, and wear stupid hats).  African tribes and asian peasants are
> strictly non-recruited, nor welcome.  The magazine is designed for
> that segment of Part 97 rules (the old Ham radio) which fights for
> spectrum not for technology, but for nostalgic radio of the 30's.
> To send "CQ Contest" and see who gets the most points.  The old
> white man with the most points gets his name in print (about 6 points
> Helvetica) and pees all over himself in the excitement...


My understanding is that 73s derives from CW sending a series of 3s as in
7 of them.  Hence 7 3s as opposed to seventy three.

That's the way I learned it (since I wasn't around sixty yrs ago).

Thanks for posting your interpretation and not pass off as a know-it-all
who posts the bare minimum as if it were all undisputed facts.

licensesss, tribesssss, peasantssss, fightsssss, 30ssss, getssss, pointsssss,
and of course peessss.
--
73s Frank Sved, VE3GID


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE: A CQ Magazine BEEF or HAM!
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Steven Sampson ([e-mail]) writes:
>>My understanding is that 73s derives from CW sending a series of 3s as in
>>7 of them.  Hence 7 3s as opposed to seventy three.
>
> Well as usual, you're wrong.  I'm right because I'm taking the ARRL's side.
> And they are a legal PAC with lawyers and everything.


Assssss usual, you're not giving usssssss an alternative.  You're just
saying I'm wrong.  As usual you're wrongsssss
--
             (((((
             0-0-,((
     ----.oO--O---Oo.------
     |    Frank Sved      |


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Thompson)
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[e-mail] (KD4GIK) wrote:

>When I subscribe to this newsgroup it contained lots of useful and some not
>so useful information related to amateur radio.  But lately the group has
>become a forum for Jew bashers, German bashers and basher bashers.  Let's
>get this thing back to something fun to read at lunch time.  Save the other
>crap for the alt.burt newsgroup.  Because if there isn't one, there sure as
>hell should be.
>John-KD4GIK, Dade City, Florida
>Home of Sun, Fun, and Guns!

Amen on that. I get tired of trying to get some useful info on this
group and only to have Burt ruin it for everyone.

73






From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
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Subject: Re: Arizonan Climbing Humphreys?
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In <4ub75d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul Christofanelli) writes:

>A P.S. to the previous note: Anyone else in the general vicinity of
>SW Colorado, such as in New Mexico or Utah, interested in trying
>for mountain top contacts, let me know.  A couple of years ago
>someone did contact a Sandia Peak (Albuquerque) station from another
>peak in the area...

This is truly great fun.  Several years ago, I climbed Guadalupe Peak,
the highest (8750 ft) peak in Texas.  I worked a guy near White Sands
(about 150 miles) through the El Paso repeater (about 100 miles).  Also,
I worked several repeaters in the area including Midland (about 150 miles).
I used a 4 element beam and a HT running on 2 watts! (I got all the way to
the top and realized I forgot the adapter to my 13.5v power pack)  :-(

About the same time, down in Big Bend National Park, I was in the Basin
Campground and couldn't hit the Ft. Davis repeater (100 miles to the
north).  Then, I got an idea.  I pointed the beam to the flat faced
mountain to the east and *bounced* my signal out of the basin and hit the
Ft. Davis repeater just fine!  Again, a 4 element beam and a HT running
about 5 watts at that time.

Have fun.  Wish I were there! :-(

David N5OFQ


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:28 1996
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Being an owner of the radio and a CAP officer, I have tried to find a way.

It cannot be done without very extensive rework (dangerous).

Radio Shack has obliged you with an non-expandable frequency transceiver.

Other than that I love the radio!

-> Phil KA1NHZ & Patriot 655



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Casey)
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Thought I heard a repeater on CB, but wait, the output's on 147.435  :-)


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:30 1996
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From: [e-mail](Galen m.Barnaby)
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Subject: Re: Code above 11wpm
Date: 7 Aug 1996 17:35:51 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary
Coffman) writes:
>
>In article <4tmm5e$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:
>>[e-mail](Scott) wrote:
>>
>>>I just got my Novice licence and am going for the Tech + on August
3rd.  I
>>>was planning on taking the General Class 13wpm code test the same
day and
>>>the theory the next month, but it seems that i've been practicing my
code
>>>for weeks and I just can't seem to get above 11wpm.
>>>
>>>Any tips?
>>
>>Yep. Stop listening to the jammers on 2 meters and start listening to
the CW
>>stations on HF.  Better yet, start TALKING to the CW stations on HF.
>
>That would probably annoy them, as well as likely being illegal.

It took me a while to figure that one hih

I recorded w1aw 35wpm down to 20wpm. then just practiced picking out
whatever letters I could. It helped my speed.
also get on the hf cw. (not talking) using the code and becoming
familiar with the qso's will help get that speed up.


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:31 1996
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I just want to know how to check if I comply or not. I downloaded the
PDF from the FCC, and the measurements listed there are WAY above me.
Is there a chart available for this?
I'm not too concerned because I only exceed 50W on 10M (100W), but
would still be interesting to know.


Rob Neff (N7ORY)



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard MacDonald)
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Subject: Re: Crystal Control
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On 28 Jul 1996 23:46:28 GMT, "Gary Coombs" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Anyone remember the year Novice Class operators got to start using crystal
>control?
>
>Gary, K9IDU
>(Who remembers being a novice in 1957 and that's all we had!)

I believe it was in 1951, the year I got mine (WN1UGN).


Dick MacDonald


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Does anyone have a phone number for International Crystal, or other
supplier who could make me a crystal for my old Collins 32s-3b S-Line
xmitter?



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:34 1996
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Prior to and during Frank Rizzo's (a prominent German, by the way:-) )
tenure as chief of police, and contemporaneous to Arlen Spector's term as
DA (another prominent German :-)), Philadelphia was a safe, clean city.

Today, we call it Filthydelphia and people are mugged/shot/killed on a
regular basis.

Draw your own conclusions from those data.




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:35 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: dl5NAZI
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 05:42:11 -0400
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Joseph A. Ames, Jr. wrote:
>
> Amen.
>
> Burt Fisher is a true fascist and bigot. Luckily, he hails from the
> People's Republic of Massachusetts. Had he come from MY hometown,
> Philadelphia, he would have great difficulty typing a reply because he'd be
> in traction at Hanneman--put there by non-Germans who have no tolerance for
> slimy provocateurs like Fisher.

Why are hams so tough at a distance?
Philadelphia, isn't that the home of Frank Rizzo and the police that
burned out a whole black neighborhood?

>
> You make me ashamed to be a ham, an academic, and an American.

I am ashamed to be a ham as well.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
#======================================================================#


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:36 1996
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From: Beavis <@sullivan.vf.mmc.com>
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Burt: get your facts straight before you run-off at the keyboard.
Rizzo was long dead when MOVE happened.  You sound like one of the
14.313 gang (KV4FZ, et. al) Or maybe even W2NSD!
Jack


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:37 1996
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From: [e-mail](Ronald G. Harman)
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Herwig
Cuypers) writes:
>
>Mebarek Abaidia <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>>>If you follow the 3 steps below, there is no reason whatsoever why
the
>>>same shouldn't happen to you. This is a perfectly legitimate
investment
>>>opportunity. You invest $5 and you receive a return on your
investment.
>>>So does the next investor. NOT ILLEGAL, NOT A CHAIN LETTER -
PERFECTLY
>>>LEGITIMATE!
>AND IF YOU BELIEVE ME I ALSO HAVE A BRIDGE TO SELL YOU REAL CHEAP!!!!
>Chain-letters/Pyramide games are absolutely ILLEGAL in most of the
>European countries.
>>
>>>OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED, THEN DON'T PARTICIPATE. BUT
PLEASE
>>>PRINT THIS ARTICLE AND GIVE IT TO SOMEONE WHO MAY WISH TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE.
>>
>
>Advertising for this kind of CRIME is illegal as well in most of the
>European countries.
>
>>
>>>REMEMBER - HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.
>
>This must be a joke !!!
>>
>>>ENJOY!
>
>I certainly won't !
>
>Best regards es vy 73 from Belgium
>ON8MC,
>
>Herwig



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From: [e-mail](Ronald G. Harman)
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In <[e-mail]> Jeff Heisler
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>The scheme mentioned in the "letter" constitutes wire fraud.
>Those with their names found on the list have been subject to criminal

>investigation.
>       "But the man in the letter says he talked to his lawyer." you
>say.  Yes, but could he say his laywer agreed, or that his lawyer said

>this was legal?
>       No.
>       The letter was writen with great craftsmanship to give you the
>impression it passed a lawyer's inspection.
>       Any lawyer worth his salt would know better.
>       It's illegal.
>       DON'T DO IT!
>
>       /Jeff Heisler/

BESIDES.....WHO THE HELL NEEDS CASH??????????


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:40 1996
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In <[e-mail]> Peter Hullah
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Mebarek Abaidia wrote:
>>
>> >NO - NOT AT A CASINO - RIGHT HERE ON THE INTERNET!
>>
>> .....
>> >So does the next investor. NOT ILLEGAL, NOT A CHAIN LETTER -
PERFECTLY
>> >LEGITIMATE!
>> .....
>>
>>REMEMBER - HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.
>>
>>ENJOY!
>
>This is a perfectly illegal chain-letter/pyramid scam.
>
>Think about it for a minute. Each person involved invests $5.
>That makes $5n for n investors. If half of these make only $10
>return, that means half of them get $0 (ZERO) return. There's
>only so much money in the pot.
>
>In reality the guys who started it get rich, the rest of you
>get fleeced! And there's a lot more get fleeced than get rich.
>
>Pete
BESIDES......WHAT THE HELL GOOD IS CASH????????


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Subject: DR-605T mod needed
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Hi, Looking for the mod for the Alinco DR-605T
Thats the new Alinco dual band mobile.
Any help is appreciated.
73, George



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Klaatu Barada Nicto)
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Subject: Re: Duplex on CB?  CB Repeaters?
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In rec.radio.cb, "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>These rules don't clearly explain "why" you can't have a CB repeater.  I
>guess that it can be infered that repeaters are not used in a
>"...private, two-way, short distance communications service..."
>
>Curtis
>
Its that a repeater can EXTEND the range of traffic & CB is suppose to be shor
t
range, (gee I guess thats why they put it on a freq. that old tank commanders
had & would get Ionosphere bounce [skip] from other theaters.) Now it
can be argued that repeaters have demonstrated in the VHF range the abiltiy
to insure solid signals in a small area without extending range. I knew some f
olks
who were thinking about putting up a CB repeater in the 70's. Of course they w
ere
gonna buy an AM radio station amp to drive it & use hidden 1/2 channels to kee
p
it a "closed repeater"....



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Duplex on CB?  CB Repeaters?
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Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jeff said:

>>Internal changes would have to be performed to the radio to make it a
>>repeater. Part 95 prohibits that.

>Actually, internal changes would *not* be required. Haven't you ever
>seen an ad hoc repeater made from *two* radios? A couple of *unmodified*
>HTs can make an expedient repeater by simply connecting their earphone
>and microphone connections to a suitable controller. Someone advertises
>just such a controller in the ham magazines. It would work using two

Heck, you could just use a VOX.

>The FCC doesn't allow repeaters on CB because they don't want repeaters
>to be used on (Class D) CB. It isn't because building such a repeater
>would require voiding the Type Acceptance of the radios used.

That doesn't change what I said. Part 95 prohibits internal changes.

Jeff KH2PZ / KH6


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Subject: Re: Duplex on CB?  CB Repeaters?
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Jeffrey Herman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Rick Miller  <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >This, of course, leads to whether or not it's legal to set up a
: >CB *repeater*...  though I'm guessing that it's not.  Anyone know why?

: It used to be the case that every CB operator had to have a copy of
: Part 95 next to their radio. That part of the federal regs will answer
: your question. Your library will have the complete collection of the CFRs.
: Jeff KH2PZ / KH6


   Don't know about Part 95, but when 11 meters was a ham band duplex
was specifically allowed.  I did it for a number of friends who were
on 10 meters and who listened to me relaying them on 11 meters.  This
was in the Philadelphia area before 1951.
--
Gerry


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From: bill allen <[e-mail]>
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Jeffrey Herman wrote:
>
> Gang, The original writer of this article lost his internet account. If
> you're replying to it thinking you're shaming him, forget it. He's off
> reading books now, or watching TV.
> KH2PZ


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:46 1996
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Bill Sohl wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell) wrote:
>
> >***** Breaking News Story *****
> >FCC Ruling Prohibits Unreasonable Restrictions on TV Antennas
> >by Ham Radio Online, 7 August 1996
>
> >In a major ruling, the FCC declared void local laws prohibiting
> >or restricting the use of small wireless dish antennas.
> >More significantly, the FCC declared that use of small dish
> >antennas and television receiving antennas can not be restricted
> >by "any private covenant, homeowners' association rule or similar
> >restriction on property within the exclusive use or control of
> >the antenna user". Under the federal pre-emption, all homeowners
> >must be allowed to install TV antennas. Longer term this ruling may
> >have important ramifications for eliminating restrictions on Amateur
> >Radio antennas.
>
> >The complete story is available at Ham Radio Online at:
> >http://206.13.40.11/
>
> Wow, do I have a couple of ideas for some QST articles
> that begin  with a title:  How to build a (enter your
> favorite band here) meter antenna that looks like a TV
> antenna :-)
>
> Bill Sohl  K2UNK
> ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ

How about a sky of aluminum with a $40 Radio Shack Antenna on top?
YES!!!!!

73 de JIM N2ZZ


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (erikc)
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 03:46:34 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>>|[e-mail] (Gary Fiber) wrote:

>>|It won't be long before our stools must be tested to comply with EPA
>>|emissions standards.  Why don't they just skip right to the end
>>|result, and declare everything to cause cancer. Then we can sue
>>|everyone for being a contibutor to our demise. Problem with that is,
>>|there would probably be an environmental fee attached to whatever you
>>|are awarded, so the government and enviro-weirdos can sleep easier at
>>|night knowing you can't spend it on waste-producing polutants.

>>|New Surgeon Generals warning label:

>>|"The Surgeon General has determined that prolonged brain usage may
>>|cause cancer, premature aging and death. Try not to think, live
>>|longer."

>>|Rob Neff (N7ORY)

More to the point, the leading cause of death in this country is being
born.  ;-)  Get used to it.

Erikc


Religious fundamentalists are a plague sent by God to
punish us for our joys. -- me



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From: [e-mail] (EMTP4355)
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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Could someone explaine just how dangerous is 100 watts of VHF RF.  I am in
this situation at work that I am in a vehicle with the anttenna mounted on
the front fender, nearly in your face.

Joseph K. Murphy, EMT-P
KF4KEK
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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OK, so where can we find a copy of these rules
on the internet?

>In article  [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell) writes:
>:>The FCC has issued new rules regarding the evaluation of RF Emissions and
>:>health effects from all transmitters. As always, the devil is in the detail
s
>:>and the details say that if you transmit over 50 watts, you may have
>:>to perform an RF emissions environmental assessment of your Amateur station
.


Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:55:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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[e-mail] (Gary Fiber) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Ed Mitchell) wrote:
>>The FCC has issued new rules regarding the evaluation of RF Emissions and
>>health effects from all transmitters.
>>You can read the complete text of the relevent FCC ruling in FCC 96-396 at
>>Ham Radio Online magazine, available on the Internet at:
>>   http://206.13.40.11/
>>(we had to move to a new server and are waiting for InterNIC to move our
>>www.hamradio-online.com domain name to the new server)

>This could get real interesting.  .......
>  Also I wonder what the FCC intends to do with all the land mobile equipment
>as most all is 100 watts.  The article implies a mobile station operating ove
r
>50 watts could also not be in compliance with the guidelines..
>Gary

Yep, all the police cars in my town run 100 watts at 39 MHz.
Should be interesting as said...

Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



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From: Bob Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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Steve - KF2TI, NJ wrote:
>
> >   [e-mail] (Dan Morisseau) writes:
> >  In article  [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell) writes:
> >
> >  :>The FCC has issued new rules regarding the evaluation of RF Emissions a
nd
> >  :>health effects from all transmitters. As always, the devil is in the de
tails
> >  :>and the details say that if you transmit over 50 watts, you may have
> >  :>to perform an RF emissions environmental assessment of your Amateur sta
tion.
> >
> >      Thanks, Bill! Thanks, Hillary!, Thanks, (the late) Ron Brown! Thanks,
> >  Daschle and Gephardt! Thanks psuedo-science enviro-hystricals! You gotta
love
> >  it don't you, folks?
> >
> >  ====================================================================
> >  "I distrust a close-mouthed man. He generally picks the wrong time
> >  to talk and says the wrong things. Talking is something you can't do
> >  judiciously unless you keep in practice"
> >                                 - Casper Gutman, The Maltese Falcon
> >  ====================================================================
>
> twasn't them..the republicants run the FCC and make the rules.  BTW the new
Dole plan calls fror substantial fee's
> for ALL radio spectrum users as part of his plan for his VOODOO economic pol
icy to pay for this
> cockamamee tax cut (cuts with no corresponding spending cuts dolooar for dol
lar)
>
> ... I imagine that we as a group are affected as well.  Burt's probably in h
og heaven
> on this one.  Those darn republicants.  Boy, ya gotta love them.
>
> Just one more of the tax and tax government people.
> Ya know how to reduce big government???  fire em ALL and start fresh
>
> steve

Perhaps a few, but it is (at this point) primarily a matter of
certifying that you read and understand the rules.  Check out
http://www.arrl.org/news/rfsafety/ for the latest info and links to the
FCC documents.



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From: [e-mail] (Dan Finn)
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:


>However, Part 90 *portable* radio stations are categorically exempted.
>I'm not sure the FCC considers "mobile" rigs to be "portable" radio
>stations. If not, *each* installation must be certified. Otherwise,
>they're exempt *regardless* of power level. Cops always seem to be
>"more equal" under the law than you or me.

Does anyone know off hand if they are using the IEEE C92.1 limits? If
so, Anybody trying to transmit at the normal 100W in a residential
neighborhood (ie, low wire dipole antenna) may be in trouble. Forget
about using attic antennas. The standard penalizes efficient antennas.
I also believe the limits vary wiith frequency; I know that that the
allowable ERP at 800MHz is only about 0.4W, compared to the previous
7W Max. transmitter power (the old standard did not consider antenna
efficiency). I also know that 800MHz products designed well below the
7W transmitter power level usually did not meet the 0.4W ERP or that
other parameter, SAR (for products held close to the ear). Yes, our
handheld devices may be exempted but my point is that, if FCC is using
the 1992 IEEE standard, amateurs in residential areas (a large portion
of the ham population) will at the very least be marginal at 100W, if
they use wire dipoles, G5RV's, slopers etc.,  and I believe the small
600W linears will be out of the question. I hate to sound like I'm
sounding a false alarm but I'm not ready yet to buy into ARRL's
contention ( D. Sumner) that the new regulation will show how safe
amateur installations really are. I'm sure he has a high tower to take
advantage of 1/R**2. The new IEEE limits are much lower than the
previous standard, but we will not start seeing this until after we
start making the measurements.

73

KR4AJ



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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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[e-mail] wrote:
: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber) wrote:
:
: It won't be long before our stools must be tested to comply with EPA
: emissions standards.  Why don't they just skip right to the end
: result, and declare everything to cause cancer. Then we can sue
: everyone for being a contibutor to our demise. Problem with that is,
: there would probably be an environmental fee attached to whatever you
: are awarded, so the government and enviro-weirdos can sleep easier at
: night knowing you can't spend it on waste-producing polutants.

Uhh..you do realize that rainwater does not meet EPA regulations for discharge
into public bodies of water? EPA rules say pH MUST be 6-8. The fact that
absorbed carbon dioxide makes it pH 5.5 makes rainwater a violation of EPA
regulations.

Also spring floods due to particulates. To say nothing of natural background
radiation, mercury, lead, etc., in areas that have that stuff.


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From: [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos)
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Peter A. Klein ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: I'm sure the ARRL, not to mention many commercial organizations, would
: raise quite a squawk if every user of a 50+ watt transmitter in the U.S.
: had to file Love Canal-style paperwork.  This would involve every police
: and fire department in the country, for starters.
:
: 73,
: Peter - KD7MW

Exactly! What about hospitals (where one goes to get healed supposedly)
and their 5 kilowatt ERP pager antennas? I'm serious, I've seen the specs
required by some hospitals here in Md for their paging network. Not to
mention commercial pagers.

Like the new bogus stricter vehicle emmissions laws, if you don't meet EPA
requirement you have to pay waiver penalty (in Maryland, $150 for 2
years).

Sounds like another money-grubbing scam from Washington.

Andy N3LCW



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From: [e-mail] (Gary Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: For Sale or Swap Usenet
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Try....rec.radio.swap




SJK <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Does anyone know of any For Sale or Swap Usenet groups or
>Internet sites for amateur radio?
>
>Steve

Quality Communications
125 W.Main St.
Mesa,Az 85201
602-649-1540
Fax [phone]


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:01 1996
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From: "Bart Jahnke, KB9NM ARRL/VEC" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Free Electronic Filing of FCC Forms 610 For ARRL Members
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ARRL News Release

August 8, 1996
                                                   For more information contac
t:

                                                   Bart J. Jahnke, KB9NM
                                                   ARRL/VEC Manager
                                                   Phone: [phone]
                                                   (internet: [e-mail])


ARRL/VEC to Offer Free Electronic Filing of FCC Forms 610 For ARRL Members

Effective immediately, the ARRL/VEC will electronically file with the FCC Form
s 610 for ARRL
Members.  The ARRL/VEC can electronically file FCC Form 610 applications for a
mateur station
license renewals, or for address, name or call sign changes.  This service is
FREE to current
ARRL Members.

What is required to use this ARRL Member service?

ARRL Members must send a correctly-completed, signed and dated original Form 6
10 to the
ARRL/VEC.  Members can send the Form 610 by US mail, by courier, or hand deliv
er to: ARRL/VEC,
225 Main St, Newington CT 06111 (USA).   Applications received by the ARRL/VEC
 must include an
original signature.  Forms 610 cannot be accepted via fax.

Special Information Regarding Applications:

* Renewals (Box 4F):  Only applications for renewal made on FCC Form 610 may p
resently be
electronically submitted by VECs.  For now, VECs cannot process computer-gener
ated Forms 610-R
(which are mailed by the FCC directly to upcoming expirees)--those must go dir
ectly to the FCC
(also, VECs cannot presently process FCC Forms 610-A, 610-B, 610-R or 610-V).
 FCC Rules
stipulate that renewals be submitted to them no earlier than 90 days before th
e license
expiration date.  Licenses that have been expired for less than two years may
still be
reinstated--a Form 610 for renewal must be submitted to a VEC or FCC before th
e two year grace
period has ended.

* Systematic Call Sign Changes (Box 4E):  Applications submitted for a systema
tic call sign
change must have Box 4E checked, and the applicant must initial the line adjac
ent to the box.

* Address Changes (Box 4D):  Applications must include a current mailing addre
ss that is within
the United States or its Possessions/Territories (where mail can be delivered
by the United
States Postal Service).

* Name Changes (Box 4C):  Applications submitted for a name change must includ
e a copy of a
legal document showing the formal name change.  The former name must be writte
n on the line next
to Box 4C. Typographical errors can be corrected using Form 610.

        Any questions regarding Form 610 application processing for ARRL Members can
be directed
to the ARRL/VEC by calling 860-594-0300 (weekdays and evenings, from 8 am to 9
 pm eastern time).

                                                   -30-


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Subject: Re: frequencies
Date: 7 Aug 1996 04:17:26 -0400
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In article <3207705b.29610953@199.4.94.14>, [e-mail] (Kay
Fule) writes:

>
>Can anyone tell me what the McDonal's and Taco Bell's frquencies are?
>The Sony telephone frequencies would be helpful also.
>
>Thanks
>[e-mail]
>
>

Fast food places are authorized to use different frequencies in different
areas depending on
other businesses in the area.  Here is a list that you will just have to
search and find the
one used in your area.

All Freq. in MHz.

McDonalds:

30.84     33.14   33.4   33.715   35.02   35.06   35.12   67.775   70.245
 71.105   82.5
141.3   151.715   151.775   151.895   154.49   154.54   154.57   154.6
154.7   169.445
170.245   170.250   170.305   171.105   171.305   171.905   192.8   457.55
  461.0375
463.2875   464.0125   468.2875   469.0125   469.1125   469.1375   469.1625
  469.1875
469.3125   469.3375   469.3875   469.5125

Taco Bell:

30.84   33.16   151.400   154.515   154.570   162.200   173.800   457.5375
  460.8875
461.0375   461.5375   464.3875   464.9625   466.0375   466.0875   466.5375
  468.3875
469.9625

Half of the fun of scanning is the search.

Joseph K. Murphy, EMT-P
KF4KEK
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:03 1996
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From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: G.E. Powercall
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:06:47 -0700
Organization: ISIGHTS.INC.
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LBRTY4US wrote:
> I want to sell a GE Powercall Mobile P.A. Amplifier. It is 100 Watt and
has input for Radio,Stereo,Ect. All you need is a good Speaker Horn for
under the hood.Comes with Microphone.   $50.00 Plus Shipping

                            [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Al Brown)
Subject: Gaithersburg (MD) Hamfest
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Voice of America
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:09:03 GMT
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                  -- For immediate release --

                           FARFEST '96

The Foundation for Amateur Radio (FAR) will sponsor the 39th
annual FARFEST amateur radio ham-fest and swap meet on Sunday,
September 8, 1995, from 6:00 am until 3:00 pm at the Montgomery
County Agricultural Center (Fairgrounds) in Gaithersburg,
Maryland.

Over 100 commercial vendors and 1,000 freelance "tail-gaters"
will offer a variety of amateur radio and other related equipment
for sale to the public.

A display of antique radio equipment will be on view, and a
Special Events amateur radio station will be on the air, making
contacts with amateur radio operators, known as "hams," from
around the world.  The Special Events station will be using
broadcast quality, amplitude modulation (AM) amateur radio
equipment using the call sign W3PRL-AM.

Interested amateur radio operators can contact W3PRL-AM on either
3.870 MegaHertz (MHz), 75 meters shortwave; 1.950 MHz, 160 meters
shortwave; 7.230 MHz, 40 meters shortwave, or; 14.230 MHz, 20-
meters shortwave.  W3PRL-AM operating times will be from
Saturday, September 7 at 9:00 am EDT (1300 UTC) until Sunday,
September 8 at 2:00 pm EDT (1800 UTC).

To get to FARFEST '96, take Maryland Interstate-270 to Exit 11
and follow the "HAMFEST" signs.  Directions to FARFEST '96 will
also be broadcast on amateur radio frequency 146.520 MHz.

Tickets for FARFEST '96 are $5.00 at the gate.

All proceeds go toward the more than 50 educational scholarships
awarded annually by the Foundation for Amateur Radio.

                         --30--



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:05 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: German Ham Radio
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 05:34:32 -0400
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P
> > > Hello all, My name is Greg and I am in the Army. I am on orders for
> > > Germany, specifically Wiesbaden. If anyone from that area can give me
> >
> > Not a place I would want to go.

> Why?


Read the book, "Hitler's Willing Executioners."


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
#======================================================================#


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: German Ham Radio
Date: 6 Aug 1996 11:17:01 -0700
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[e-mail] (Richard Fitzgerald) wrote:

>If my memory serves me correctly.  The American amateurs located around the
>Wiesbaden/Frankfurt/Mainz area monitor 144.655 simplex.  Good luck on your to
ur.
>I lived for two years up in the Dusseldorf area, but I was never under the SO
FA
>(military) agreements.In article [e-mail], kc7gnm@primenet
.com (Greg Thompson) writes:

Appriciate the info. Will keep this freq in mind.

73




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:07 1996
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From: BBC <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Getting Started
Date: 10 Aug 1996 10:15:32 GMT
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I want to broadcaste a radio signal either via FM, AM, shortwave, ham,
Internet or cable, but I'm not sure what is involved.  Which is easiest?
What does it take to get a FM or AM station?  What about sharing time
with another station?




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ib Holst Jorgensen)
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Subject: H-P 10544A crystal oscl.
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Need user/service manual for HP10544A crystal oscl.
Even a diagram will do.
Info to email:
                           [e-mail]

73



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:09 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Ham fest in Richmond, VA????
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 22:06:42 -0400
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Does anyone know when there will be a ham fest in or around Richmond, VA??

Thanks in advance.
packrat


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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham guts
Date: 8 Aug 1996 13:53:21 GMT
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) writes:
> Frank Sved wrote:
> fell asleep again Blurt.  I want to hear the ending.
>
> The point of you low class PERSONAL insults?
>
> #================#=====================================================#|  B
urt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
> | Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
> |    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
> #================#=====================================================#| k1
[e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
> #======================================================================#
Nothing PERSONAL, this is aimed at Blurts everywhere.  I don't take public
offence to you calling me fat, white, and lazy do I?  (Stoopid too but I
don't remeber If you said that or my wife.) :-)

--
             (((((
             0-0-,((
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     |    Frank Sved      |


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio in Phenomenon
Date: 9 Aug 1996 11:14:54 -0400
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Michael ([e-mail]) writes:
> NEGATIVE>>>>>hams didnt really save the world.
>
> What was shown was Military in Uniform.
> BUT>>>Do U think any of them boys now in service know CW ?
>
> They probably cant scrounge up 1 straight key right now if
> they had too.
> Break out the TNC books......send/rec CW clean !!
>
> N9HPE....clear of the freq.....OUT
>
>
>
Goof, putz and moron alert!!!! BBEEEEEEEEP


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From: [e-mail] (pat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: hamfest in british columbia canada
Date: 10 Aug 1996 14:55:27 GMT
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it is hamfest time in northern british columbia  canada.!!! welcome to
all amateur radio people. details are on the pgarc home page . check it
out at  http://www.netbistro.com/~ve7duc/  hope to see you all there 73's



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:12 1996
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From: Roger <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Have Ham Licence Plate
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 18:00:04 -0700
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I have 1 extra Ham license plate, AC6BW, CA. I will let it go for $5. That
ought to cover postage and mailing materials. Please email responses to
[e-mail]
73,
Roger


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Roger wrote:
>
> I have 1 extra Ham license plate, AC6BW, CA. I will let it go for $5. That
> ought to cover postage and mailing materials. Please email responses to
> [e-mail]
> 73,
> Roger


hehe how about 2 pints of blood also!!!!!!
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
--
Dave Booth


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Keith Stevenson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Please can anyone help me with my interference.  My dad`s new tv is a 28
: inch Tosh with prologic surround sound.  I am getting 3MHz of noise
: centred around 14MHz.  I have narrowed it down to the leads feeding the
: rear two speakers.  When I disconnect then the noise goes away.

Is it time for us amateurs to go on the offensive?

If the tv is new, like newer than 1st Jan '96, contact your local
trading standards office. It maybe that the TV does not meet its CE
compliance claims!

Geoff
--
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      Geoff Blake          [e-mail]       linux 1.2.13
      Chelmsford              [e-mail]          (*now back*)
      Intel create faster processors - Microsoft create slower processes


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:15 1996
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From: [e-mail](D/S/Losty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Suitable KWM-2A Q-multiplier?
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On Aug 07, 1996 08:39:21 in article <HELP: Suitable KWM-2A Q-multiplier?>,
'"JOSE V. GAVILA" <[e-mail]>' wrote:


>I'm looking for information on a suitable KWM-2A Q-multiplier; I also
>wonder if the old Heathkit QF-1 would work. Please, any information
>highly appreciated.
>
>E-mail to: [e-mail]
>
>Thanks!
>
>73 JOSE - EB5AGV

If I remember correctly, back when the KWM2A was in production,
a Q-multiplier was a built-in accessory manufactured by the
Waters Co. in Massachusetts.   Doubt if they are still being made,
but you might find a used one. I think it fit into the front panel
space otherwise occupied by the accessory crystal pack.

Also, I think Barker and Williamson may have sold a Q-multiplier for the
KWM2(A).

My memory is hazy on this, so the details may be wrong.

73,
Doug/WA1TUT






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From: "Brian S. McDaniel" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 11:51:59 -0500
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Michael Colvin wrote:
>
> Become a DJ?

Work on your communications skills, first.

73 DE KC4LMD
WVTM-TV


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:18 1996
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From: "Chris Davis" <[e-mail]>
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Robert,

It may sound fun (when I was in college, we tried to do the same thing, but
were unsuccessful, luckily.)  If you do succeed, you WILL most likely be
caught, unless you are in an area with almost no radio stations.  As an
assistant engineer at an FM station with several translators, we regularly
monitor the band with a spectrum analyzer and would most likely find a
'pirate' station within a few days of it's debut.  I'm sure you've read the
posts from others outlining the fines.

Radio is an appealing hobby.  I'm sure your intent is not to break the law.
 Why not go about it through the existing channels?  If your desire is to
communicate, try amateur radio, it's lots of fun!  If your goal is to get
your music 'on the air', seek out a local college or technical school radio
station.  I'm involved in both amateur radio and broadcast radio, a
rewarding hobby and career.  Good luck!

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                 Chris Davis KB0WWP
                     [e-mail]
       Asst. Engineer KJLY - Christian Radio
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:21 1996
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From: N6UZS <[e-mail]>
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Subject: HTX-202 ER2 Fix
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 02:57:18 -0700
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Ok folks I've been reading the threads over the past 2 days and
have realized one common item here. Everyone so far has attributed
the ER2 error on the display for being RF induced by 5 watts thru
the duckie or whatever. I may have missed a post or 2 on the topic
but if anyone hasn't heard the REAL reason why the 202 does that CPU
reset with the BP8 I will explain why right here to the best of
my knowledge.

First of all the entire problem was described to me as a voltage ripple
problem being produced by the battery at the voltage regulator board.
This ripple is all it takes for the sensitive CPU to reset itself and
go into ER2 message. Nothing worse than this occuring to me especially
when I was right in the middle of reporting a 2 car crash and all
the sudden "POOF" no radio!

To resolve this ripple you need to filter it some way. My friend Jeff
who has made numerous trips to the Tandy Repair center here in
Santa Fe Springs, California finally got the correct fix info from
a tech there. You place a small value Picofarad cap between the
positive and negative terminals right on the other side of where
the battery makes contact and thats all there is to it.

Please note I have to make a quick research call to my buddy Jeff
sometime Wednesday and I'll post the proper capacitor value that is
required for this fix. Ill also provide info on how to contact the
Tandy Repair center here in California if you have further questions.

73,
Richard.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HTX-202 replacement battery?
Date: Tue,  6 Aug 1996 01:07:00 GMT
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>>I know there is an ICOM replacement battery with a larger capacity,
>>does anyone know what the ICOM battery number is for the HTX-202?

I replied to you last week on this one, I believe - the BP-8 is the 7.2
volt Icom battery...the BP-7 is a 12 volt unit. But look and see if MAHA
is producing a nickle-metal hydride battery for you - I just bought one
for my Standard C558a. 12V 1.2AmpHour(!) in a tiny case. Great stuff.
Good people.


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:22 1996
Date: 07 Aug 96 01:05:06 +0500
From: [e-mail] (SARUMAN)
Subject: Re: HTX-202 replacement battery?
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>>>I know there is an ICOM replacement battery with a larger capacity,
>>>does anyone know what the ICOM battery number is for the HTX-202?

>I replied to you last week on this one, I believe - the BP-8 is the 7.2
>volt Icom battery...the BP-7 is a 12 volt unit. But look and see if MAHA
>is producing a nickle-metal hydride battery for you - I just bought one
>for my Standard C558a. 12V 1.2AmpHour(!) in a tiny case. Great stuff.
>Good people.
Do you have the phone # for MAHA handy? Thanx

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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael)
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[e-mail] (Frank Sved) wrote:

>> tell these pimps to fuck-off and get a real life.  Any real Ham
>> wouldn't be on 2m FM anyway, that's the pimp band.  Even more so,
>> with Packet (digital pimps).
>>
>> All the magazines went out of business due to their technical
>> orientation.  I think anyone could make a killing by offering a
>> magazine that is oriented to pretend lawyers, and other rule
>> readers in Part 97 operations (the old Ham radio).


>why are you giving pimps a bad name?  And seriously, did you think you'd
>make a point by this kind of criticism?
>73s Frank Sved, VE3GID

He made his point and I got it....GET A LIFE....low lifer
scum bag VE3GID!




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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Dana Myers <[e-mail]> wrote:
>To make the jump from a finite count of
>channels to an infinite count, you need to accept that a "channel"
>of a given bandwidth can be located at any frequency - and there
>are an infinite number of frequencies.  Whether some of these
>infinite potential channels overlap with others is irelevant.

Hi Dana,
But doesn't this contradict other usages of our now favorite word "channel"?
Imagine several waterway channels parallel to each other. If there were
overlap we would now have one broad channel instead of many unique channels.

I believe lexicographers, in writing an abstract definition, depend upon
a `Uniform Usage' principal which demands that the abstract portion of a
definition must be applicable to all usages of the word under definition.

A manufacturer advertising a `40 channel CB transceiver' is really
abusing the definition of "channel."

Michael Deignan should have to do penance for bringing up this topic.

73 from balmy Hawaii,
Jeff KH2PZ / KH6
(high today 88, low last night 75, ocean 81; brisk NE Trade winds ~20 knots)
(usual boring weather)


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>In article <4tu85g$[e-mail]>
>           [e-mail] "Dana Myers" writes:
>
>> In article <4tpbcb$[e-mail]>,
>> Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> >Really? I transmit on 7030Khz. You transmit on 7031Khz. How many channels
>> >are between those two frequencies?
>>
>> In theory, there are an infinite number of channels between those
>> frequencies.
>
>That's not accurate.  There may be an infinite number of frequencies,
>but that is not the same thing as an infinite number of channels. If
>a communications channel is to be capable of passing data then it
>must have a finite bandwidth, and so the number of them which will
>not overlap and interfere so as to prevent the data passing must also
>be finite. In your post-Shannon `theory', are you proposing that
>something can be given the name of "channel" which is incapable of
>passing data?

Careful. It is easy to get confused when talking about infinities.
How many real numbers are there between 0 and 1? There are an
infinite number of them. The way you prove that is that for every
pair of numbers you select, I can select a number which fits between
them in the sequence. Now how narrow can a communications channel be
and still convey information? If you are willing to lower the information
rate, each channel can be arbitrarily narrow. For every channel width
you can present, I can present a narrower one by lowering the information
rate. There are an infinite number of choices between 1 and 0, so I
don't need to go all the way to zero to fit another one in. Hence there
really are an infinite number of channels I can fit between any two
other channels.

Let me put this another way, what is the result of infinity/2?
What is the result if you divide infinity by 3? By 10? By 10^6?
The answer is still infinity. When you divide infinity by a
finite number, the result is always still infinity.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:27 1996
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From: [e-mail]  (Bill Newkirk)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 9 Aug 1996 01:55:45 GMT
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In <4ucl7i$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Kehler
) writes:
>20 meters, channel 42.  Be there or be square.
>73, Jim KH2D

i haven't researched it, but if it's like some other channelized HF i've dealt
 with,
the first bit of the channel number also implies the band..so the first 2 digi
ts
would be 14. i would guess that channel 14001 would translate to 14.200 MHz,
14002 would be 14.203, etc.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



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To: Steve - KF2TI <"adell"@planet.net Landing>, NJ

If you really did read Hitlers Willing Executioner tell
me WHY you think it is what you allude to what it is?


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
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| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
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From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
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Subject: JON VAN ALLEN, KF7YN, IN SALT LAKE CITY HAS REDEEMED HIMSELF
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Just to summarize this situation, last Feb. 28th, Jon posted
a message that he would buy old Bearcat scanners (working or not).
I responded and he said he could only offer $20 each (sight unseen).
After a couple of e-mails, we decided that I should send them for
his evaluation as I felt they were worth more than that.  I sent
them UPS on Apr 18th.  After requesting my money each month for
3 months, I finally resorted to posting on this newsgroup to
beware of him.

He wrote me e-mail within a couple of days and said he had just
gotten back from a trip at sea and had just plain forgotten to
send me a check.  He apologized both privately and publicly.
I think it was an honest mistake on his part.  I also think I
waited a quite reasonable amount of time before getting nasty.
I think we should just chalk it up to circumstances.

I'm not going to wait until the check clears.  It would not be
fair of me to drag it out any longer before posting this message.

So everybody please erase from your minds any bad thoughts about
Jon Van Allen.

By the way, the check was for $40.


73,

Jack  VE3EED/W7
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bruce Micales wrote:

>> That is the biggest load of B.S. that I have ever heard!  Where is the
>> evidence to back up such a statement (and the German Nation was around
>> YEARS before WWI and WWII, plus the German Nation is Still present!).

>Read the book, Hitler's Willing Executioners" The evidence is
>all there and well documented. In fact documented back hundreds of
>years.


>>
>> BTW, you just insulted my Mother (not to mention all those of German
>> origin or descent on this NewsGroup) who is 100% German. Oh in case you
>> cant do the math..that makes me 50% German!

>Not all Germans are killers. There are those that disapproved of Hitler.

Jez you are a lying SOB Burt. I just backed up a little in this thread
and you said that it is in All Germans genes to kill and torture.

Go back and take your medication.

>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:31 1996
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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 12:26:02 -0500
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Lightning protection info for towers, masts...email postal address you
would like info sent.


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:32 1996
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From: [e-mail](Michael P. ( 'Jug' ) Jogoleff, WA6MBZ)
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Subject: Re: linked repeaters in Calif?
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In <4ufq60$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tom Geyer) writes:
>
>I'm interested in any open linked repeater systems in Calif.  I don't
have
>a 220 radio, so the CONDOR folks aren't willing to let me on.
However, I
>have heard of the WALA and EDISON systems.
>Does anybody know of a repeater listing for these systems?  I've tried
>searching the internet and cannot find any info.  Repeater call signs
>would help.
>
>Tom
>
> --
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>|          Tom Geyer          |      [e-mail]      |
>|      Santa Barbara, CA      |                           |
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>
Hi Tom,
This is "Jug" WA6MBZ in Santa Barbara,
The Edison system is also on 220, sorry.  The wala has a port
out of lompoc on 145.120 - 600.  You might be able to hit that
on a good night.
73 de "Jug" WA6MBZ
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Name:            Michael P. ("Jug") Jogoleff
Call:            WA6MBZ
AX.25:           WA6MBZ@K6TZ.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM
Phone:           [phone],  Message or FAX

Snail Mail:      1324 Panchita Place, Santa Barbara,  CA   93103-2223
Grid Square:     DM04DK
Position:          34.431415 Deg. North Latitude
                 -119.698060 Deg. West Longitude

E-Mail:          [e-mail]
                 [e-mail]
                 [e-mail]

Monitor
Frequently:          52.920 MHz. -,  145.050 MHz.  S,  146.790 MHz.  -
                    223.920 MHz. -,   224.080 MHz. -,  224.120 MHz.  -
                    446.400 MHz. -, 1284.050 MHz.  -, 1286.200 MHz.  -

Check in
Frequently:         223.920 MHz.  Daily at 21:00 PLT.
                   3856.000 KHz.  Daily at 20:00 PLT,  LSB.


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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:33 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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JHende wrote:
>
> I foolishly let my license expire several years ago and now need to
> retest.  Any help with where and when the state of Or would be appreciated
>
>                                                Thanks
> JHenderson


Howdy JH

For VECs and Exam Skeds, go to the ARRL page at:

http://www.arrl.org/

Click on exams or goto URL:

http://www.arrl.org/exams.html

This will give the info you want.

I will E-Mail you the list in case u don't have WWW capability.

Good Luck & 73
From Rod in San Diego
--
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What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Laurent HAAS - F6FVY)
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Subject: Looking for ZL station owning "B & B"
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To ZL stations

A friend of mine, F6GOX (ex TK5BL and FJ5BL), is going to New Zealand for
holidays in October.

He's looking for amateur radio stations owning "B & B" overthere.

If so, please answer to me directly. I'll pass him your answer.

Best 73

Larry - F6FVY - Paris

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|   /       |                                             |
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| /--/--/   |                F-75020 PARIS (FRANCE)       |
|   /  /    | Packet radio : [e-mail]      |
|           |       e-mail : [e-mail]            |
+---------------------------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MALICIOUS INTERFERENCE
Date: 9 Aug 1996 11:15:02 -0400
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Michael ([e-mail]) writes:
>>problem and since WB9YHQ is the control operator they i feel they have no
>>say in the matter. And if one of them knew it was illegal why did he give me
>>his microphone and isn't what he did by playing for to the FCC entrapment?
>>so what do you think.?
>>73 Todd N9OGL
>
> Stay on freq and dont worry about it !
>
> Old timers have to gripe about something...cause as U
> age....U lose acid in stomach and cant digest food proper.
> This puts large molecules of crap in UR blood....which
> causes grouchiness in the brain.
>


ha ha ha ho ho ho he he he, the FCC would sure have something to say.  Sit
back and do another line, Michelle.

--
             (((((
             0-0-,((
     ----.oO--O---Oo.------
     |    Frank Sved      |


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:36 1996
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From: Ken Harrison <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mini-DXpedition - The ROCK
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:25:40 -0700
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The Sonoma County Radio Amateurs will be conducting a mini-DXpedition to
Alcatraz Island in the San Francisco Bay on August 25th.  It will be a one
day event and we plan on working 40/20/15 meters SSB and/or CW and 2
meters FM and SSB and/or CW and possibly 70 cm. SSB and/or CW.

The club callsing of W6LFJ will be used.  Actual frequencies we are
planning to run are (+/-):

40m     7.120 MHz       CW
20m     14.075 MHz      CW
15m     21.140 MHz      CW
 6m        (?)          CW(?)
 2m     Std. call       CW
70cm    Std. call       CW

40m     7.265 MHz       SSB
20m     14.270 MHz      SSB
15m     21.400 MHz      SSB
 6m        (?)          SSB(?)
 2m     Std. call       SSB
70cm    Std. call       SSB

 2m     146.520 MHz     FM Simplex

We will be offering a special QSL commemorating the event.  We want to
contact YOU!  Spread the word!

To find out more you can contact Larry Gustafson, KD6VUM at
[e-mail] or you can head your browser to:

http://www.cs.sonoma.edu/~ken/scra.html

and click on the Mini-DXpedition announcement.

73,
Ken


__________________________________________________________________________
Ken Harrison   ---      [e-mail]      ---   Amateur Radio:  N6MHG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|           Visit the Sonoma County Radio Amateurs Web Page.             |
|                       Home of Hank's Swap Shop!                        |
|                                                                        |
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (MMedi13720)
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Subject: Re: MSYS
Date: 9 Aug 1996 23:46:35 -0400
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In article <4uba5v$[e-mail]>, [e-mail](
Michael  P.  ( 'Jug' )  Jogoleff,  WA6MBZ) writes:

>I am afraid Packet radio will be stuck in the text mode not because of
>the BBS software, either in DOS or in Windows 95, but because the
>bandwidth of packet barely carries text traffic, as it is, at 1200 or
>9600 baud.
>
I know that this is going to sound like a newbie remark, but could you
UUEncode whatever binary you're sending over packet? After all, uue is not
"intended to obscure the meaning of the message."

Just a thought

Mike S. Medintz, |"Old madness reappears, fighting the bitter fear
                          | growing conspiracy, everyone's after me
                          | frayed edges of sanity, hear them calling me"
http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~medintz      -Metallica


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:39 1996
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From: adamkern <[e-mail]>
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Subject: New HF net
Date: 7 Aug 1996 04:37:01 GMT
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Hi All!

Along with KE1BG, I am starting a new HF youth net.  This net has been
going for a few weeks now, and takes place on 3.970 Mhz every sunday
night at 8:30 PM eastern time.  This net is most definitely open to all
hams!!!  If you are around sunday evening, please check in!  We are going
to start having discussions on hot topics in ham radio.  It should be a
very interesting and informative net.

This net will be booming out to your QTH from the metro Boston area,
Massachusetts.  Right now I'm the NCS, so listen for me.  Hopefully,
Sunday night I will have a bunch of new antennas up for 80m, and a new
amp in the near future, so I hope to have checkins from all over.

AGain, all hams are welcome to check in!  This is a continuation of a
successful local 2m youth net that has drawn a considerable crowd in the
area.  In the future, although it is as yet unconfirmed, we might be
offering the net at different times on other frequencies as well, mainly
to take advantage of emerging propagation.

Once more, it's the 75 Meter Youth net, every Sunday night, 8:30 PM
atlantic time on 3.970 Mhz LSB.

Hope to see you all there!

73,
Adam Kern
N1TYF
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:40 1996
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From: Jack Reed <[e-mail]>
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Date: 9 Aug 1996 00:50:16 GMT
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Help celebrate the 150th Birthday of the Smithsonian Institue. NN3SI, the
Amateur Radio Station at the National Museum of American History will
conduct special operations 1400-2300 UTC, Saturday and Sunday, 10 and 11
August on or near 7250, 14250, 18150, and the 40 meter Novice band, as
conditions permit.



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:41 1996
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From: Dan Cornett <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: OPINION on YAESU FT-10 NEEDED!
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 16:53:30 -0700
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Thomas Gasta wrote:
>
> Have an FT10 and FT40, used FT10 less than 1 hour since purchased at
> Dayton. I like the audio on both radios, features are great, out of band
> mod works great, and DPL works even better. I bought the FT10 because I
> bought the FT40 before Yaesu introduced the FT50, so I "needed" a VHF
> radio to go with the UHF.  If your interested in Ham radio only, not
> stereo reception of FM stations, the price difference between an FT10 and
> a FT50 is something to look at very carefully.
>
> Tom
Tom,I am going to buy a FT10 soon ..can you send me e-mail on out of
band mod? Do I need to purchase the software for the mods?
Dan [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:43 1996
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From: Thomas Gasta <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: OPINION on YAESU FT-10 NEEDED!
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Dan Cornett <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Thomas Gasta wrote:
>>
>> Have an FT10 and FT40, used FT10 less than 1 hour since purchased at
>> Dayton. I like the audio on both radios, features are great, out of band
>> mod works great, and DPL works even better. I bought the FT10 because I
>> bought the FT40 before Yaesu introduced the FT50, so I "needed" a VHF
>> radio to go with the UHF.  If your interested in Ham radio only, not
>> stereo reception of FM stations, the price difference between an FT10 and
>> a FT50 is something to look at very carefully.
>>
>> Tom
>Tom,I am going to buy a FT10 soon ..can you send me e-mail on out of
>band mod? Do I need to purchase the software for the mods?
>Dan [e-mail]
Dan,

I dont have anything in writing, someone faxed me a diagram. All I can
remember is that you remove the keypad by unscrewing the screw underneath
the Nicad label on back of radio. Then, on the board under the keypad,
main radio board, not keypad board, is a few very small chip 0 ohm
resistors. One of them must be removed, and a radio reset performed. Can't
help on which one.
Tom




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:44 1996
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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Packet data cable
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adamkern wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> I just purchased a new Kenwood TM-251A mobile rig.  This rig has a
> dedicated 1200/9600 baud packet connector on it.  I have a Kantronics
> KPC-3 TNC.
>
> I want to use the dedicated packet port on the rig, but I can't find a
> premade cable that will properly interface my TNC with the rig.  (I'm
> starting with 1200 baud operation.)
>
> Does anybody know if there is any store or individual that sells these
> cables premade, or has anyone already built it for themselves.  If so,
> can you please give me some tips on how to do it!
>
> I already have the Kenwood PG-5A Data cable with the 6-pin DIN connector
> on one end for the rig.  I also have the parts for the 9-pin serial-style
> plug that came with the TNC.
>
> Also, if I build it, is it just as simple as connecting the wires, or do
> I have to change the line voltages?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> 73,
> Adam Kern
> N1TYF
> [e-mail]

See http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire/ for info on wiring
tnc/radio cables.

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Karl Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Paging? CTCSS?
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 16:49:01 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Clint
Bradford) wrote:

>>>I've really been enchanted with some of the features of the low-end
>>>(Radio Shack HTX-202) 2-meter handheld I just got.
>
>The most popular 2M HT in the country is certainly NOT "low end." It is
>a solid performer, Rick.
>
>>>Anyway, I'd like to find out if there are any Citizens' Band handhelds
>>>with either "paging" or CTCSS...
>
>Illegal on those bands. How about a GMRS license? Your license covers
>ALL members of your immediate family. Reliable communications in the 462
>band are available to you and yours...
>
>Where are you? Let's try to find out if there's a GMRS repeater in your
>area!

There are two errors in Clint's reply above:
First, Paging is NOT APPROVED on either 27 MHz CB or 462/467 MHz GMRS
frequencies.  Second, CTCSS is quite legal on both CB and GMRS.

Now, why not use the new FAMILY RADIO SERVICE?  These units are low power
UHF simplex, operating BETWEEN the present high power GMRS channels.
Radios from several manufacturers should be arriving in stores in a few
more weeks.
--
Karl Beckman, P.E. WA8NVW      <     If our English language is so  >
Motorola LMPS Eastern Div      <  precise, why do you drive on the  >
Systems Engrg   Parma, OH      <  parkway and park on the driveway? >
[phone] / [phone]
** Opinions expressed here do NOT represent the views of Motorola. **
Amateur radio WA8NVW                  Navy MARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:46 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Q: DX-Cluster on the Internet?
Date: 10 Aug 96 18:25:39 GMT
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 Hi,
I am searching for any DX-Clusters which can be accessed via the Internet.

Any help will be much appreciated.

------------------------------------------------
     Best 73s de David / 4Z5DK

  ax.25 : 4Z5DK @ 4X4HF.ISR.MDLE
  E-Mail: 4z5dk @ 4x4ac.ampr.org
          4z5dk @ 4z4zq-1.ampr.org
------------------------------------------------



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael)
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>Memory mode:  Xmit 143.000 - 149.000 Mhz
>              Recv 143.000 - 149.000 Mhz
>
>Note:     To return to the default frequency ranges, you must
>          reset the transceiver.  Page 18

Now here U R again FRANKIE....given away SECRET SHIT.
Out of band transmitting and mods.....AGAINST THE LAW !!



FCC >>>>>TAKE THIS GUY BEHIND THE BARN !




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:48 1996
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Technically, out of band MODS *aren't* against the law. TRANSMITTING on a
radio frequency for which you aren't licensed, or TRANSMITTING with non
type accepted equipment outside the amateur bands is another thing,
however.

--
-jrw4

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by saving others money (and yourself!)
Enroll online for FREE! In fact, we pay you!
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Michael <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<4ubun0$[e-mail]>...

=snip=

>
> Now here U R again FRANKIE....given away SECRET SHIT.
> Out of band transmitting and mods.....AGAINST THE LAW !!
>
>
>
> FCC >>>>>TAKE THIS GUY BEHIND THE BARN !
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:49 1996
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From: [e-mail]  (Bill Newkirk)
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In <4u7sq9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>It comes in two flavors, an acrobatic clown version and perfectly worded
>verison which you will likely have to convert from Word Perfect 5.1 to
>read.

the acrobat version came in around 300-400 k, i think. reads up just fine on
os/2, windows, and windows 95 machines around the home and shop...and the
acrobat version was probably created from the WP version anyway. however,
i'll have to look at it again..i didn't notice any links/hot spots in the file
...

they could have done it in Envoy 7 or worse, Worldview (where you pay to get
a viewer...).

>When in the Lord's name not taken in vain, will anyone EVER listen to
>the idea to post standards in standard text format as in plain ASCI text
>with NO art work, just words.

sometimes, you don't have room for the thousand words when a single picture
will do.  Collins experimented with something called the Equipment Compiler
System years ago -- no drawings, no artwork, no officially released schematics
.
page after page of stuff like A2R685 x1=1.600 y1=1.500 x2=1.600 y2=2.000.
It's apparently a very good way to run a factory, but it's very hard to be abl
e
to take a given product and work backwards to figure out what you're looking
at. makes life trying to make instruction books difficult. today, i can rip st
uff
out of the engineering drawings for use in my books blowing off all those erro
rs
caused by transcription problems with the "old way".  lot easier to find R685
too.

>Mike @ W5WQN


Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:50 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: RF expouse limits
Date: 6 Aug 1996 16:44:57 GMT
Organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885
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In <[e-mail]>, Phil Sussman <[e-mail]> writes:
>As you might be aware, the FCC has set Jan -1, 1997 as
>a compliance date for all US ham radio operations to comply
>with NTIS Bulletin 65 with respect to RF exposure limits.
>This would SEVERELY affect operators of FSK and PSK
>because they are considered 'continious transmissions'
>
>There is an FCC imposed exemption for any transmitter
>UNDER 50 watts. Over 50 watts, a ham must insure that
>he complies with NTIS-65.
>
>I am looking for a copy, preferably on-line, of NTIS
>Bulletin 65.
>
>Can anyone help on this?
>
>73 de Phil - KB8LUJ
>
>regarding RF exposure limits.

You can get it at www.fcc.gov where it is in the technical bureau section.
It took me a while to find it, but there is a "NEW" notice flaggin it right
at the top of the department's page.

It comes in two flavors, an acrobatic clown version and perfectly worded
verison which you will likely have to convert from Word Perfect 5.1 to
read.

I think the WP 5.1 version came in at above 1 Megabyte in size!

When in the Lord's name not taken in vain, will anyone EVER listen to
the idea to post standards in standard text format as in plain ASCI text
with NO art work, just words.


  "Words, words, they kill us with words...   and the first thing we
    shall do is....."

:)

Mike @ W5WQN




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:53 1996
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From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Robert Sull 216 933 4582 Profane
Date: 10 Aug 1996 05:04:13 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Gerald Schmitt wrote:
>
>SNIP

>
>I show his phone number so he can have deserved recognition.
>You still wishing for the return of Adolf and the boys?

Is this what you consider a personal insult? Pretty weak if it is Burt.
Some how I got the impression you did not approve of personal insults.
Oh well must be my mistake. Perhaps you would care to insult my wife
now.

                    With all due respect (none)
                        Jerry
>
>
>#================#====================================================
#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting, electronics and
 |                                 most of all hate

>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)
|
>|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.
|
>#================#====================================================
#
>| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]
|
>#=====================================================================
#



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gene McAvoy)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ScanWare - End of FCC FRS
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 01:31:18 GMT
Organization: ScanWare Associates
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In the fall of 1993 ScanWare Associates released version 1.1 of the
FCC Frequency Retrieval System (FCC FRS).  In the following months
improvements and enhancements were made until the latest version, 2.15
was released in the summer of 1994.  The program has proven to be so
stable and user-friendly since that time that no further changes were
deemed necessary.  The FCC FRS as a DOS-based program has enjoyed
exceptional popularity and has proven itself a valuable tool to over
1000 customers who have used and continue to use the program.  Only
twice in the entire history of the FCC FRS has ScanWare been asked to
refund a purchase.  It is believed that no other frequency retrieval
program either DOS or Windows based can make that statement.  Judging
from user comments that we have received, no other retrieval system
has ever produced the level of user satisfaction that ScanWare's FCC
FRS has provided.

It is with much personal sadness that ScanWare Associates announces
that on September 1st, 1996 we will no longer be accepting orders for
the FCC FRS or any related products which we have offered in the past.
Our most recent purchase of data includes the 1st QTR 1996 FCC Data.
No further updates of data will be forthcoming from ScanWare. We will
continue to honor any outstanding free database certificates however
data provided will be limited to the current database on hand.  Any
certificates sent in for redemption must be accompanied by a check or
money order in the amount of $5.00 to cover media, preparation, and
shipping.  Credit card payment will not be acceptable.  Technical
support of all ScanWare products will be limited only to any answers
or solutions which can be provided via email.  Replacement files may
be provided via email at ScanWare's discretion but we make no claims
or guarantees as to their continued availability.

The ScanWare Associates BBS will cease all operations at midnight on
August 31st, 1996.  The ScanWare Associates Web Page at URL:
http://sincom.com/~scanware/index.html
and the ScanWare Associates email address:      [e-mail]
will continue operation until such time as we consider their
usefulness at an end.

ScanWare Associates wishes to thank all of our customers and friends
who have supported our efforts.  We hope that you will continue to use
the FCC FRS as you have in the past and that you will continue to
remain our friends.  Although we will no longer be retailing the FCC
Frequency Retrieval System and its related products, ScanWare
Associates as an entity will continue to exist and we will continue to
pursue activites in those areas of most interest to us.  Perhaps in
the future we will meet again.

Sincerely,

Gene McAvoy, KG7XD
and
Matt Amis, AA7LP

ScanWare Associates
PO Box 1743
Silverdale, WA 98383-1743





From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:56 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics.repair
Subject: Re: Schematics NEEDED
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 17:33:43 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
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dave hills <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have a WWII vintage Army receiver, model BC-348, which does not
>operate on the high band.  Does any one know where I can obtain a
>schematic for this model?  I would very much appreciate any help!

>Thank You!
>--
>Dave Hills, P.E.
>[e-mail]

Fair Radio Sales
PO Box 1105
Lima OH  45802
419 223 2196
419 227 6573
419 227 1313 (fax)
dr
Dave Rickmers            never get out
[e-mail]    of the boat



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sean Corcoran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Stornophone 700, convert ??.
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 15:21:04 GMT
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Hi there.
I have a Stornophone 700 PMR and I would like to use it to access my
local repeater.
I have heard that it is easy to convert this type of PMR but I have
absolutely no info whatsoever.
I put a bull out on packet some time ago and got one reply saying that
it was a very easy rig to convert but no other info.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Seßn, EI5HE.

Packet, EI5HE@EI7DKB

EMail, [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TECH. REF NEEDED FOR HEATHKIT DX40 TRANSMITTER
Date: 11 Aug 96 01:16:14 GMT
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Hello all

I Just become the proud owner of a /heathkit DX40 Transmitter and need
all the technical info I can get. I dont have anything. Min. essential ..
a
schamentic and parts list.

Any assistance will be appreciated.

Thank You,

John

St. John  of Wood Dale =======================================
John Chasteen     ( Near the center of the Universe...)
1 Thes 5:16          ( Near Chicago, Illinois.. USA )
voice 630-860-2580          [e-mail]
=========================================================




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:56:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (gfm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: test
Date: 9 Aug 1996 22:33:21 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University
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duane ([e-mail]) wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > hello this is a test
> test was received


haha!  I cracked up when I saw this.. only a ham would say "... was
received.."  hehe.. :-)


  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Robert Rose (gfm)                                     [e-mail]
   http://www.fsl.orst.edu/~rose                            [phone]


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:00 1996
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From: [e-mail](Anthony Severdia)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: test...
Date: 9 Aug 1996 05:57:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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In <[e-mail]> steve <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Jeffrey Herman wrote:
>>
>> Steven Sampson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >Position:          34.431415 Deg. North Latitude
>> >                 -119.698060 Deg. West Longitude
>>
>> I've never seen longitude given as a negative measurement. Are we to
>> interpret negative west longitude as actually being east? That would
>> place him along the east coast of China, close to Nanjing.
>> KH2PZ
>
>programs like logsat use negative for south and west.

    Very true but many programs use positive for west (and north).
The coordinates given are somewhere off shore of Pt. Conception, CA

    A good place to find marine navigation software is ftp.ronin.com
A navigation mail list also resides there as [e-mail]

    -=Tony=-    W6ANV




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:01 1996
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From: steve <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: test...
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 21:19:37 -0700
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Jeffrey Herman wrote:
>
> Steven Sampson <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Position:          34.431415 Deg. North Latitude
> >                 -119.698060 Deg. West Longitude
>
> I've never seen longitude given as a negative measurement. Are we to
> interpret negative west longitude as actually being east? That would
> place him along the east coast of China, close to Nanjing.
> KH2PZ

programs like logsat use negative for south and west.


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:02 1996
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From: [e-mail](Michael P. ("Jug") Jogoleff, WA6MBZ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: test...
Date: 7 Aug 1996 07:40:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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this is a test.
bye
--

*************************************************************************
Name:            Michael P. ("Jug") Jogoleff
Call:            WA6MBZ
AX.25:           WA6MBZ@K6TZ.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM
Phone:           [phone],  Message or FAX

Snail Mail:      1324 Panchita Place, Santa Barbara,  CA   93103-2223
Grid Square:     DM04DK
Position:          34.431415 Deg. North Latitude
                 -119.698060 Deg. West Longitude

E-Mail:          [e-mail]
                 [e-mail]
                 [e-mail]

Monitor
Frequently:          52.920 MHz. -,  145.050 MHz.  S,  146.790 MHz.  -
                    223.920 MHz. -,   224.080 MHz. -,  224.120 MHz.  -
                    446.400 MHz. -, 1284.050 MHz.  -, 1286.200 MHz.  -

Check in
Frequently:         223.920 MHz.  Daily at 21:00 PLT.
                   3856.000 KHz.  Daily at 20:00 PLT,  LSB.


end
*************************************************************************


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Steven Sampson)
Subject: RE: test...
Date: 7 Aug 96 11:19:07 -0700
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Organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com)
Lines: 23

this is a test.
bye
You don't need a signature block more than 4 lines.


----------------------------------------------------
--

*************************************************************************
Name:            Michael P. ("Jug") Jogoleff
Call:            WA6MBZ
AX.25:           WA6MBZ@K6TZ.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM
Phone:           [phone],  Message or FAX

Snail Mail:      1324 Panchita Place, Santa Barbara,  CA   93103-2223
Grid Square:     DM04DK
Position:          34.431415 Deg. North Latitude
                 -119.698060 Deg. West Longitude

E-Mail:          [e-mail]
                 [e-mail]
                 [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:03 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: The boys
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 05:55:59 -0400
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Someone tell me why they refer their ham friends as "the boys"
Since when is an old fat WHITE man or men a boy or boys?

 ================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
#================#=====================================================#| k1oi
[e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
#======================================================================#


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:04 1996
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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TRW Swap Meet
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 10:53:08 -0700
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Scott wrote:
>
> I heard that on the last Saturday of every month, there is a TRW swap meet
> in So. Cal.  Where exactly is it?
>
> Scott, KF6FCN

The TRW swapmeet is in Redando Beach.
off the 405 at Redando blvd i think....
starts at 7:00.am...

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860




--
Dave Booth


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From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: va.general,uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.dx,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,nc.general
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I just uploaded my newest pages. Due to the length of just
> the single page I have split the page up. Check it out,
> and many thanks for the comments. Anyone like to add anything ?
> Comments direct please.
> 73 Kyle
>
> http://www.moonstar.com/~wa4pgm/

I'll go check it out!
kc6wfs
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
--
Dave Booth


From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Phil Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Usenet problem
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 19:18:19 GMT
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adamkern <[e-mail]> wrote:


>I'm having trouble with this newsgroup all of a sudden.  I'm using
>Netscape for my browser, and all of a sudden, whenever I say "catch up
>all articles," it won't do it.
>[e-mail]


Hi, Adam,

One solution might be to use a different newsreader. You can download
a free copy of Free Agent from the Forte website at www.forteinc.com
I think you will find it a much more friendly and versatile
newsreader.
73

==============================================================
Phil Brown                   [e-mail]
Amateur Radio N4COD
Video Producer/Instructor
www.tigerweb.com



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:08 1996
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Subject: Re: Usenet problem
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In article <4u15ee$[e-mail]>, adamkern <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hey all!
>
>I'm having trouble with this newsgroup all of a sudden.  I'm using
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard E Stealey)
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Dale D. Holloway ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Gary, try the following site. All available 1X2 or 2X1 call signs
: are listed there.

: www.ultranet.com/~bob/


I just went there and checked on some calls.  It s not up-to-date.
Some calls that I know were reissued a few weeks ago are listed as
available on his web page.

Rick  KT2Q



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:10 1996
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Any word or idea when gate #2 will open?

Don AC6TG




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: Want to get into Ham radio-anyone recommend a radio?
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>in any given situation. For lucky West coast HT users, the north
>Pacific duct will even allow them to contact Hawaii from time to
>time. That's a wee bit more than 3 blocks.

>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addres
ses
>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

Well, Gary, since you aren't in CA., we can't get you to do the testing,
but maybe we can get one of them 6 land tech's to go sit on the beach
with an HT and come back and tell us how long it took him to work
Hawaii.  Better we find a young one, as he is gonna be there for a
while.

So I guess I should revise my answer:

1. Usually, 3 blocks.
2. From a mountain top, 60 miles.
3. From the beach in California, all the way to Hawaii. (but don't hold your
breath while waiting for the band to open).

73, Jim KH2D




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From: [e-mail] (John R. Cunliffe)
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Subject: Re: Where & When is the fall Hamfest which is nr Rochester NY
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Bill Kirkland <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Where and when is the fall Hamfest which is near Rochester NY, i.e.
>the companion hamfest to the Rochester Hamfest.

Do you think about the Batevia hamfest??
Your a few weeks to late.
John

=====================================
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:14 1996
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From: [e-mail](D/S/Losty)
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On Aug 07, 1996 17:04:25 in article <Re: Yaesu Ft747GX problem>, 'Mike
Willis <[e-mail]>' wrote:


>D/S/Losty wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've got a Yaesu FT747GX HF transceiver with
>> an intermittent/erratic problem.  Periodically, while
>> transmitting, the RF meter pegs at maximum but the output
>> of the transmitter on a RF wattmeter drops to near zero.
>> It seems like the transmitter is putting out wideband garbage.
>> I removed the excitation/drive from the final RF amp assembly
>> and the symptoms continued. It seems like the RF amp is
>> taking off due to a parasitic oscillation.
>
>I have heard of several cases of FT747 transmit problems. It is a design
>fault in the PA module. Fixed in later versions. It is probably best to
>junk the PA it as the replacement is very pricy. I don't have the
>details on fixing it but I know tracing it is very difficult unless you
>have come across it before. It seems to be fixed, then starts up again.
>You can use the lower level to drive a different PA or transverter.

Thanks for the info.
I've recently talked with Yaesu about it - they've already suggested
one modification, but I fear my unit may already have it.
I'll just keep digging!

73,
Doug/WA1TUT




From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Huster)
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Hunh.....
When did the aircraft frequencies extend through 162MHz???
Maybe a modified aircraft radio could extend its frequencies
through 162MHz and should be rugged.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I want to buy an HT for 2m that has at least 20 memories,
>covers the aircraft frequencies through 162 MHZ and is rugged
>Suggestions?
>--
>#================#=====================================================#|
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>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
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  Timothy W. Huster
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:16 1996
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Yaesu HT-51R, although I'm not certain the aircraft freqs go all the way to 16
2.



From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:17 1996
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Tim Huster wrote:
>
> But, considering your posts of the past and the way your question was asked
> this time, and judging from your attitude in responding to other's posts.
> I doubt you will get anything useful.
> Good Luck.

I received help.
It did not take much intelligence for readers to understand the
question.
Sorry you had so much trouble

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|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
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From [e-mail] Sun Aug 11 05:57:18 1996
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Ah yes...
I see now...
Very Clearly as a matter of fact.
You wanted a  suggestion for aradio that covers the aircraft frequencies
through 162 MHz.
Intellectually speaking, if I recall correctly, the aircraft frequencies
do not and have never extended thru 162MHz.
Now, If you would like to re-state your question to maybe,
Oh I don't know... let's try this:
Can anyone recommend an HT that covers the Air Band 110MHz - 137MHZ,
the 2M Amateur Band, and the VHF Public Service Band 150MHz - 173MHz.
Also, the HT should have the capability of being rugged and possibly wet-proof
and may even meet Mil-STD-810c for ruggedness.
I would also like the radio to be very portable and pocket-sized. A computer
interface capability would be nice as well as being able to operate directly
from 12Volts.
Then I imagine you would have received more viable answers.
But, considering your posts of the past and the way your question was asked
this time, and judging from your attitude in responding to other's posts.
I doubt you will get anything useful.
Good Luck.


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Tim Huster wrote:
>>
>> Hunh.....
>> When did the aircraft frequencies extend through 162MHz???
>> Maybe a modified aircraft radio could extend its frequencies
>> through 162MHz and should be rugged.
>
>Anybody with intellect would not respond as you have.
>Read what I wrote.
>
>
>> >I want to buy an HT for 2m that has at least 20 memories,
>> >covers the aircraft frequencies through 162 MHZ and is rugged
>> >Suggestions?
>
>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
>#================#=====================================================#
>| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
>#======================================================================#

--
  Timothy W. Huster
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  kb8bnk@kc8tw.#cin.oh.usa.na
  "...and Dad! I like Putt-Putt! I got a One on that Hole!" Andrew H. age 4



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:47 1996
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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:48 1996
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From: [e-mail](Galen m.Barnaby)
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I am coming to Austin this weekend to look for an apartment. Any
suggestions on areas to look in, papers to look in, ham restriction...
would be great. I don't have much time to find a place.
also what frequencies are busy. I have HF, 2M, 440Mhz.
thanx, galen


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Chris ([e-mail]))
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same as subject

thanks,
Chris



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Stu? Stew? I remember pukin up something greene and
slimey just same like dog vomit and gator bile.  Now
this MOE guy reminding me the same.  Greene Stu
Green Stew just no diffrent that green diariaa.
Maybe diariaa and greene puke better, huh?


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:50 1996
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Fellow hams, I am working on my undergraduate degree and looking for
scholarships, grants, and patronage from the Ham community.  If you know of
any that I may apply for, please let me know.  Does your radio club offer a
scholarship?  Thanks for your help.

73's de KE4RQF


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From: [e-mail] (Larry Carr)
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>>Does anyone know where the state listing of Arkansas FM Repeaters

Go to URL: http://home.earthlink.net/~artsci/repmain.html






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From: Jake Brodsky <[e-mail]>
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I'm just curious Gary, did you use a speaker mike all the time?  And
did you transmit with the radio on your belt?
--
Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
Amateur Radio Station AB3A
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Subject: Memphis Hamfest
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 19:08:30 GMT
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Hi,
Could anyone tell me anything about a Memphis hamfest (when, where, ect).
Please reply by e-mail.

Thanks,
Jeremiah
KB0PHX


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:54 1996
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From: hacker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CAP mod for htx-202?
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 17:56:21 -0500
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Can you get the 202 modified for CAP use?


no




From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Will Sheffield)
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Subject: HAM License Vehicle Plates
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 07:20:20 LOCAL
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I am looking for information concerning what states allow you to have more
than one vehicle registered with the same HAM call sign.  If hyou have
information concering this, please e-mail me.  I would like to see if I cann't

get the state of Oregon to go along with this plan also.

Will Sheffield   N7THL

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:56 1996
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From: IAF <[e-mail]>
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Subject: HYGAIN TH3Mk3 HF ANTENNA UK
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I have for disposal numerous HF Radio Antenna. One off Hygain TH3
Mk3 Tribander Resonant on 10, 15, 20 Metres with Balun. Magnetic
Loop Antenna Two Off LF 40 and 80 Metres and HF 10, 15 and 20
Metres Commercial manufacture not homebrew. If anyone is
interested please email [e-mail]. will ship
anywhere.

--
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Sidener)
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Subject: Anyone know what Motorola MUX stands for?
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Hi,  I just found out that I have a Motorola Micor that has duplex/MUX

I was wondering what MUX meant.

Thanks,

Scott Sidener   N0WFL
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:59 1996
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From: Karl Oyster <[e-mail]>
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Isn't it wonderful that in this country we have freedom of speech,
which also is the freedom to act like a total ass.  I'm glad you
took advantage of that freedom, Steve.  I'm also glad that you
said what you said, because that way I don't have to say anything
whatever critical of you -- you ensured that everyone who read
what you wrote would understand that you took advantage of the
freedom.




From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:49:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Griffin)
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Subject: IC-M600 Ham band conversion info needed
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:47:25 -0400
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I have an IC-M600 I would like to modify to transmit in the ham bands.
Could someone email conversion info to me please?

Thanks,
WA1KRX

Doug

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Douglas Griffin                    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (steven)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: hamfest in british columbia canada
Date: 11 Aug 1996 16:07:31 GMT
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In article <4ui7sv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>it is hamfest time in northern british columbia  canada.!!! welcome to
>all amateur radio people. details are on the pgarc home page . check it
>out at  http://www.netbistro.com/~ve7duc/  hope to see you all there
73's
>
ammended address  http;//www.netbistro.com/~ve7duc/hamfest.htm    also
look at http;//www.netbistro.com/`ve7duc/ve7zzz.htm  thanks for all the
replies. 73's



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:01 1996
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From: Steve Ickes <[e-mail]>
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T E I X E I R A wrote:
>
> >The Democrats screw up and the Republicans have a party. Then the
> >Republicans screw up and the Democrats have a party.
> >
> >This is known as the 'two-party' system.
> >
> Yea.....Politicians treat us like Mushrooms.........They keep us in the dark
 and feed us Bull
> Shit!
>
> Dole ain't worth a damn & Clinton is a Republican in a Democrats cloths.
More like a socialist in Democrat's clothing.  Oops, same thing! :)


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Surprise2)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB repeaters
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Robert Casey wrote:
>
> Thought I heard a repeater on CB, but wait, the output's on 147.435  :-)


mmmmm, be careful with such comments, there is more than one 147.435
repeater.

:)

John Mackey, KA0SSF
Owner, 147.435 repeater, Portland, Oregon


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:03 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mr Happy should be happy SOME of the time.
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Mark G Robinson wrote:

But not all the time.
Of course in hams Mr. Happy lies limp.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
#======================================================================#


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: Ham's character
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Jack <@sullivan.vf.mmc.com> wrote:

>You remind me of W2NSD and his editorials; he doesn't know how to
>respect someone elses' opinions.
>de Jack N2MPU

Lack of respect for someone else's opinions are the specialty of this
newsgroup.  That's why we are all here.  You must be new here, huh ?

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gilbert Baron)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: OPINION Best HF  radio to replace one hit by lightning
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My HF radio was destroyed by lightning. It was a Kenwood TS440SAT. I
might want to upgrade to say a TS870 or perhaps the 450 is good enough
which is the value I will get from the insurance company. Is it really
wroth an extra 1000 for an 870 or Yeasu 736 or ICOM FT900 or what
would you suggest?
I am pretty much limited to an R7000 for an antenna or dipole. My R7
was also destroyed (took direct hit !!!),
--
Gil Baron W0MN [e-mail] Web http://www.deskmedia.com/~gbaron
"Bailar es vivir" pgp2.6 key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html
"Cuatro caminos hay en mi vida. Cual de los cuatro sera el mejor"

[Posted with Agent .99e. For info, email [e-mail].]


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Minger)
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Subject: Re: Anyone know what Motorola MUX stands for?
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In article <4utkc7$[e-mail]>,
Scott Sidener <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hi,  I just found out that I have a Motorola Micor that has duplex/MUX
>
>I was wondering what MUX meant.

Scott,

In the telephone business, MUX is short for multiplexor.
Yeah, I know..... so what's a multiplexor do?  ;-)

-John, AC6VV
<[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: Ham's character
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[e-mail](Gerald Schmitt ) wrote:

>Another cheap shot at all hams by the expert on guts. You haven't
>posted much this weekend been too busy at the senior center trying to
>pick a fight? Remember whne you have nothing useful to say you can
>always post line after line of HIs. Have a nice bigoted week.

Hey, Zippy, I was starting to worry about you. Thought you were starting to ge
t
moldy, it's been so long since you came out.  But really, you should avoid
messages that have the word 'character' in the subject........






From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:08 1996
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From: "Bill Turner, WB4ALM" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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Gary Sanders wrote:
>

> Cancer isn't any fun.
>
> Sure, I know I'll get flamed, because I don't _know_ that the cancer
> was caused by the HT's, but then again, I don't _know_ that thay
> _didn't_ cause it.

Hopefully it WASN'T caused by the HT's...
...but even much more important, hopefully you recover. FULLY!
   (and quickly.)

73's Bill Turner, WB4ALM


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:09 1996
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From: Ed Ellers <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GMRS doesn't cut the mustard.
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 96 15:26:01 -0500
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Rick Miller <[e-mail]> writes:

>By the way, I was *amazed* at the *costs* associated with GMRS!  All the
>local repeater groups expect at *least* $50/year for one-city coverage
>with no autopatch.  The SEWFARS amateur repeater has autopatch and covers
>all of SouthEastern Wisconsin for only $15/year!  Heck, they even have
>satellite receiving stations in the more distant areas I frequent.

There's a big difference between the two.  With GMRS you can put mobile
and portable radios in the hands of everyone in your immediate family for
communication between them.  The amateur service can only be used by those
with their own licenses, so it's only good for family communications if the
people involved have all passed the test.

Don't compare apples to oranges.


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Mileshosky, N5ZGT)
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Subject: Re: Cheap CW Transceiver?
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 18:06:24 GMT
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  How about buying a NorCal 49'er.  It is a 40 meter (Tuned to 7.040
MHz) TRANSCEIVER that fits in one of those metal Altoids mint boxes -
with its 9 volt battery!
  Power output is 250 mW (More than enough for a nice QSO) and the
cost is just $25.  The kit is very easy to build and it is a great
rig.  I earned the 1000 miles per watt award with my very first QSO
with it after my first 2 CQs!
  For more info, look att he NorCal QRP Club web page.  I'm not too
sure what the URL is, but you can use a search engine.  (I think it
starts with http://www.fix.net). Good luck!
72/73,
Brian, N5ZGT





From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Steve Sampson <[e-mail]> wrote:

<potty mouth adjectives snipped...........>

>Only a moron would claim to be a democrat...

And only a moron would get that upset about what politicians do or don't
do  - and then post it in three radio related newsgroups.  So does that
proves there are morons in both parties ?

Hafa Adai,
Jim KH2D





From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:12 1996
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David Turner wrote:
>
> My father has a Kenwood 733-a radio and Kantronics 9612 Tnc. He is
> using a windows program 'KAWIN'. It works fine kfine on 2meters.  When
> he enables 9600baud on 733-a he is unable to connect, ok without 9600b.
> Unable to  connect on 440 at anytime.  Would appreciate help from anyone
> using this  combination (733-A,Kam 9612) with or without KAWIN.

I don't know what a 733 is, but don't worry about KAWIN.  First you
have to fix the radio part, then worry about the software part.  The
obvious problem, is that the radio part isn't set up properly.  First
you need to have a 9600 capable radio (is the 733 one?), then you need
to adjust the deviation.  The simple way to adjust deviation is to start
at minimum and keep turning up until you can connect and transfer data.

Tell dad to adjust the audio, he'll know what you mean :-)


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:13 1996
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From: Alexander Parkinson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Wilson 2M mobile antenna. . .
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Hi

Looking for information on Wilson 2M antenna. My understanding
Wilson produced antennas for 10 and 11 meter band only, recently
introduced a 5/8 mag mount for Amateur use. Anybody have experience
and comments on performance?

73

Alexander VE4APN - a Macintosh TCP/IP station
SP VE4APN @ VE4KV.#WPG.MB.CAN.NOAM
e-mail: [e-mail]
    or: [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:13 1996
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Burt Fisher wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
> > > My gear is still for sale.
> > > I claim that hams will not engage me  L I V E  when they are open to
> > > all listeners.
>
> > Eat sh*t and die Burt.
>
> How the typical gutless ham responds.



Burt Fisher you are a PUSSY so shut the fuck up.

You are dumb too.


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:15 1996
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From: [e-mail](MIKE)
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Subject: Re: how can I broadcast on FM radio?
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In <[e-mail]> robert <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Could someone point towards info on how to broadcast on FM radio.
>I've heard it called free radio or pirate radio. Does that mean it's
>illegal (how illegal:)? What makes it illegal (in florida)? Where can
I
>buy the equipment? What would I need to buy? I just want to transmit 5
>to 10 miles and just music (mostly my own and my friends music so as
not
>to violate copyrights or whatever).
>
>-- you would first have to apply to the fcc for a license,, otherwise
it is illegal!!  first apply and then take it from there,,there are
hundreds of guidelines that must be followed,,good luck,,youll need
it!!  (and money too!!)
>______________________
>robert mailto:[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) writes:
> Frank Sved wrote:
>
>> TYPICAL BURTS HAVE NO INTEGRITY, MORAL FIBRE.  REMEMBER BURT, THERE ARE
>> THOSE THAT KNOW AND THOSE THAT DO.  A/V TEACHERS ARE FAT, UGLY, AND CAN'T
>> KEEP GIRLFRIENDS.
>
> And your facts are ... as general and blanket as yours about hams.
>
> #================#=====================================================#
> |  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
> | Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
> |    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
> #================#=====================================================#
> | [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
> #======================================================================#




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From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
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Subject: Re: IC-M600 Ham band conversion info needed
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----- snip -----

I have an IC-M600 I would like to modify to transmit in the ham bands.
Could someone email conversion info to me please?

Thanks,
WA1KRX

Doug

----- snip -----

You don't need any modifications.  Just program the frequency as
you would any other.


Jack  VE3EED/W7
--


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From: [e-mail] (Charles)
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In article <[e-mail]>, robert <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Could someone point towards info on how to broadcast on FM radio.
> I've heard it called free radio or pirate radio. Does that mean it's
> illegal (how illegal:)? What makes it illegal (in florida)? Where can I
> buy the equipment? What would I need to buy? I just want to transmit 5
> to 10 miles and just music (mostly my own and my friends music so as not
> to violate copyrights or whatever).
>
They call it PIRATE RADIO because they hang Pirates when they catch them.
That is what the FCC will do if you are caught broadcasting music 5-10
miles on FM Radio without a license. Amateur radio regulations prohibitthe
broadcast of music. Other broadcast of music requires a commercial
broadcast license. You are facing fines ranging from $2000 to $15000 if
you are caught, which means free radio is only free until you are caught.
These are serious fines, the FCC does noto mess around with parking ticket
size penalties. If you choose to use amateur radio FM equipment, licensed
amateurs will quickly track you down and report you to the FCC. Tracking
illegal stations is an Amateur radio hobby/sport.
Charles


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:19 1996
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> KD1YV <[e-mail]> wrote:

> It doesn't matter if they are an ass or an elephant. When it comes to
> money, issues like this have no party boundaries.

Agreed.  Don't vote, it only encourages them :-)

> .--  .  -    .-    -.-.  .-..  ..-  .   .-.-.-

Wet a clue?  I'd rather not!  Us liberals have more self-control than that.

> Rob Neff (N7ORY)
>
> Bob Dole - Simply because any Republican is better than Clinton.

Gee, Republicans are such sore losers.  I bet you thought that Nixon was a gre
at
President, and therefore must have been innocent.

Jim, KD1YV


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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
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Frank Sved <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jeffrey Herman ([e-mail]) writes:

>> Fine. But while on HF if you start calling a frequency  "the center of
>> a channel" be prepared to be labeled a lid. Colloquial usage plays
>> a vital role in what terminology is admissible.
>>
>> One wonders if Shannon defines "ham radio."

>What a waste of bandwidth your opinions consume, Jeff.
>Who cares about micro-defining subjective terms.  Stick to looking at the
>clouds go by on your island.
>--
>             (((((
>             0-0-,((
>     ----.oO--O---Oo.------
>     |    Frank Sved      |

At least I provide an opinion, Stank. That's more than we get from your
one-line insults followed by a five-line something or another. Eat
some prunes for that constipation.
Jeff KH2PZ


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From: [e-mail] (Ignacy Misztal)
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In <4ulu2o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Big Boy) writes:
>I have a old crap 8088 'tole box' as you can say!  With the power supply.  It
's
>rated 7Amp at 12 Volts but i'm wandering if i can use it to supply my mobile
>(used as a base) 13.8V tranceiver unit.  I dont know much of switching power
>supply technology and i want to know if it's safe.  The problem may be when i
>switch from RX to TX and from TX to RX... could there be a fatal burst of
>voltage?  Or peraps with a big cap, like 22 000uF, at the exit i can control
>those peek?

One problem with switching powel supplies is wideband noise. I used a
stock Yaesu switching PS a while ago, and with low and
shortened antennas the noise was overwhelming. It was OK with high
full-sized antennas.

That PS once gave up at a thunderstorm, something that has never
happend with the conventional PS.

Ignacy Misztal              Ham radio: NO9E, SP8FWB
E-mail: [e-mail]
University Of Georgia, 203 L-P Bldg., Athens, GA 30602
tel. [phone]



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:22 1996
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You probably don't have an HF rig, but if you do, try the 75 meter youth
net.  This is a new net on 3.970 Mhz every Sunday evening at 8:30 PM
eastern time.  I just tried to run it, BUT THERE WERE NO CHECK-INS!

ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE COME OUT FROM YOUR PILEUPS AND EXOTIC OPERATING
MODES AND TRY THE NET!!!  It is for all ages, but geared for the younger
generation.

I PUT UP A NEW ANTENNA DURING THE DAY TODAY FOR TONIGHT'S NET, AND THERE
WERE NO CHECK-INS!  COME ON PEOPLE!  WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE RAGCHEW?

Anyway, this is an HF youth net you can try, and there are many youth
nets around, so there is plenty of exposure for younger hams.  I am
almost 16, and I got into the hobby at 14, and found alot of new friends
my age, and older (HIHI) very quickly through my local club.

Good luck!

73,
Adam Kern
N1TYF
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Minger)
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Subject: Re: linked repeaters in Calif?
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In article <4ufq60$[e-mail]>, Tom Geyer <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I'm interested in any open linked repeater systems in Calif.  I don't have
>a 220 radio, so the CONDOR folks aren't willing to let me on.  However, I
>have heard of the WALA and EDISON systems.
>Does anybody know of a repeater listing for these systems?  I've tried
>searching the internet and cannot find any info.  Repeater call signs
>would help.
>
Do you have a 440 radio?  There is an OPEN linked system of three
repeaters in the 440 band now.  The repeaters are KJ6TQ, located on
Mt Lukens, 446.650 - PL 67.0, KN6JE, located on Oat Mtn, 446.4375 -
PL 67.0, and KO6TD, located in Granada Hills, 445.2875 - PL 123.0.
These are a completely open system, any licensed ham invited.
You can hear their weekly net on Mondays at 1800 hrs.

Note: two of these are on "splinter" experimental frequencies.  My
Kenwoods all tuned them fine via direct input to the VFO.  Some radios
may require you to change your step size to 12.5 KHz first.
This group has been around since the spring of 1993, I believe.
They call the system MARS (Metropolitan Amateur Repeater System).
Try this system out.  I promise you will like the people there.

-73 de AC6VV, John


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:25 1996
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From: "Jim O'Connell, W9WU" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Prohibits Unreasonable Restrictions on TV Antennas
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 10:24:13 -0700
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Rich Carlson wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the text of this ruling?  I am trying to get my townhouse
> association to allow a DBS dish and a discone for scanning on my roof, and
> this may help push me over the edge as it were...
>
> --
> Rich Carlson, N9JIG ([e-mail])
>
> ScannerMaster Illinois Communications Guide [phone]
>
> CARMA (Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association) BBS [phone]
> PO Box 2681, Glenview IL 60025    SASE for sample newsletter.

Rich: A copy of the Report and Order In the Matter of Preemption
of Local Zoning Regulation of Satellite Earth Stations
can be downloaded or read at http://www.fcc.gov

Look for it in the headlines section on the first page for the
link.  I'm not sure it will help you if you're in a townhouse and
don't own any roof/outside wall rights.

73, Jim O'Connell, W9WU  ARRL Volunteer Counsel


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James Warren Price)
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Date: 12 Aug 1996 17:24:13 GMT
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--------------------------------------------------------------

NCSU HAM CLUB OPEN HOUSE

Come celebrate with the NCSU StARS (Student Amateur Radio Society).

When:   Saturday, August 24, 11:00 am - 4:00 pm
Where:  W4ATC Shack, 428 Daniels Hall, NCSU, Raleigh, NC
        From Hillsborough and Horne (1st intersection east of big
        library building) enter campus on E. Broughton Drive.
        Daniels is 3rd building on left.  Parking permit not required.
        Talk-in on 145.13- MHz.
What:   See the shack and operate if you like (your license or ours).
        Gear includes
        - HF rigs with big triband yagi and wire antennas
        - 6m phone/CW with 5-el yagi (150 watts)
        - 2m all-mode with 13-el yagi (165 watts)
        - packet
        - work Mir and Russian ham sats (11:15, 11:50, 13:00, 14:30, 16:00)

        Old QSL cards (since 1934) and other items on display.

For more info contact:
        Jim Price N3QYE, [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
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Nancy Kott, of FISTS, The Organization for the Preservation of Morse
Code, will be the special guest this sunday, 8/18/96, on the Ham Radio
& More Show. Fireworks will surely fly as the Morse Code requirement
is debated. And your opinions are invited by fax or by phone. During
the show call in toll free, at 1-800-293-5366 in the US,
1-602-230-2755 outside the US, and fax at 1-602-241-1540.
This is your chance to get your opinions heard. Show info is below.
Len Winkler, KB7LPW                        [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                         [e-mail]
Phoenix, AZ. 85068-9219

Ham Radio & More Show (host); info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html  (Home Page) (Thanks BARC)
http://www.tapr.org/hrm  (RealAudio site to hear past shows) (Thanks TAPR)

The Ham Radio & More Show airs LIVE each Sunday at 6:00pm ET,
(2200utc), on many local commercial stations throughout the country.
ALSO: LIVE on WWCR Shortwave, 7.435mhz and 12.160mhz, 100,000 watts.(Thanks WW
CR)
ALSO: LIVE on RealAudio at: http://ww2.audionet.com/pub/kbnp/kbnp.htm (Thanks
KBNP)

Also available tape delayed via WWCR Shortwave on Mondays, at 0900utc on 3.210
mhz; Saturdays, at 1600utc on 12.160mhz; and on Sundays, at 0400utc on 5.065mh
z.

Support "WOG", the Written Only General!



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:28 1996
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From: Michael Rosenberger <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TRW Swap Meet
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 08:45:53 -0700
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Dave Booth wrote:
>
> Scott wrote:
> >
> > I heard that on the last Saturday of every month, there is a TRW swap meet
> > in So. Cal.  Where exactly is it?
> >
> > Scott, KF6FCN
>
> The TRW swapmeet is in Redando Beach.
> off the 405 at Redando blvd i think....
> starts at 7:00.am...
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
>
> --
> Dave Booth
                It is in the TRW parking lot at the North West corner of
Aviation Av and Marine Av in the City of Manhattan Beach. Or you could
say it is in the
1800 block of Marine Av. The border between Manhattan And Redondo is
Aviation Av.


                                ---Mike


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:29 1996
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From: KD1YV <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: West Coast Blackout
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:09:38 -0300
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Peter Coffee AC6EN <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>TORRANCE, CALIFORNIA, 12 AUGUST 1996
>
>When the lights went out on August 10, all over Los Angeles
>County, there wasn't any point in trying to phone home.  Both

{deletia}

Good news on the excellent ham coverage.  Most likely, the success was because
of your constant drills which you mentioned.

Unfortunately, I read the following a day before yours, on a real news service
.
Now which do you think that the Republicans are going to remember when it come
s
to auctioning off the ham bands.

Quote from Business Wire.
>> NEW WIRELESS PHONE NETWORK COMES THROUGH POWER OUTAGE; PACIFIC BELL   MOBIL
E SERVICES REPORTS 100% INCREASE IN CALL VOLUMES AT REPUBLICAN
   NATIONAL CONVENTION - Pacific Bell Mobile Services announced today
   that its new wireless phone network serving the Republican National
   Convention performed flawlessly through yesterday's power outage
   affecting nine western states.
End quote.

73 de Jim


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Angus March (VE2UFP))
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Subject: Making morse midis
Date: 13 Aug 1996 01:41:16 GMT
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I'm trying to make a midi that is merely composed of morse code, but I'm
having quite a lot of difficulty. Obviously, what I'm requesting shouldn't
require a lot of power from the application that I would compose these
midis, however, finding an application that can generate midis from the PC
keyboard is turning into a quite an ordeal.
        I think it was Improvise that I got working, and I found that
certain brass instruments and synth instruments, when playing a verry high
note, sounded pretty close to the 800Hz morse beep. You can imagine the
consternation when I found out that Improvise was for playing midi
accompaniments.
        Are their any applications out there that:
                -allow for PC keyboard input
                -can play a variety of sound (or one sound that is
                        completely monotonic, with a ~800Hz(?) sound)
                -AND runs under Win95, or Dos95, for that matter.
--
                        http://www.ece.concordia.ca/~ac_march/addr.html
  _________        ___________       [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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Subject: Ham Radio Online web site is still "on the air"
Date: 11 Aug 1996 22:15:43 GMT
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The Ham Radio Online web is still "on the air." However, our new web server
located in California's Silicon Valley lost power during the massive west coas
t
power outage this weekend and as of Sunday morning (U.S.) 11 August the http
web server is still not functioning. Our ftp access to the web site came back
up this morning so we've updated the files. We assume the web server will be
brought back online by Monday.

You can access the Ham Radio Online web site at:
     http://206.13.40.11/
(www.hamradio-online.com when InterNIC gets their directory updated.) You can
also check for updates at our backup web address:
     http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

We've completely redesigned the "List of Other Ham Radio web sites",
"Commercial Products Directory" and the Ham Radio Online Library for easier
access to all the information that is stored online. It really looks cool and
we had a lot of fun learning how to use "frames" for the web pages.

Thanks!
Ed, KF7VY
------------------------
Ed (KF7VY) and Kim (N7VPL) Mitchell
email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
http://www.hamradio-online.com



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:34 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What is 10-10 International???
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 20:28:38 -0700
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To: "K.S. Wright" <[e-mail]>

K.S. Wright wrote:
>
> Hi all!  I've just received my Ham ticket as a Tech+ and noticed great
> skip window on 10m from CA to UT, NM and later in the day to WA.
> Several stations were calling out 10-10 numbers.  Could someone tell me
> what that's all about???
>
> TIA
>
> 73's
>
> K.S. Wright (Scott) - KF6FJS


Howdy Scott, you will find a complete rundown on 10-10 International at
URL:

http://www.lehigh.edu/lists/tenten-l/

Regards from San Diego
Rod 10-10# 18029

--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:35 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FCC Antenna Doc on WWW
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:26:44 -0700
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Rich Carlson wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the text of this ruling?  I am trying to get my townhouse
> association to allow a DBS dish and a discone for scanning on my roof, and
> this may help push me over the edge as it were...
>
> --
> Rich Carlson, N9JIG ([e-mail])

Hi Rich, all 30 pages of the FCC text are to be found at URL:

http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Orders/fcc96328.txt

Part of the FCC page at URL:
http://www.fcc.gov/

Lets all hope they extend this ruling to the Amateur Radio Service.

Good Luck with the HOA -- mine is hopeless.

73
Rod

--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Chris & Jerry (not the comic book)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:03:51 GMT
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[e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh) wrote:

>Gerry most recently has threaten to sue The Ohio State University, because
>...now get this...I asked him to go to alt.flame! I think this clearly sums u
p
>Gerry's character...enough said.

>Take care all.

>Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
>Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
>E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
>AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam

Chris, we all read the AIDS debate. Then we read the debate of the AIDS debate
.
Now we are reading an instant replay of the debate of the AIDS debate.  If you

and Jerry were both here, I'd give you each a 2x4 and let you go out in the ba
ck
yard and settle this once an for all.  You don't have to keep defending
yourself.  You're smart enuff to realize that this has ABSOLUTELY nothing to
do with ham radio.  If you want to keep it up, I can send you Jerry's email
address. He loves getting email anyway.  You should both be glad you don't
have AIDS.  And we would all be glad if you use 2x4's, boxing gloves, lawyers,
or whatever you need to use to settle this elsewhere, and then just let us kno
w
who won.

Hafa Adai,
Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:38 1996
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From: Bob Sull <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Icom-735 question.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 22:54:21 -0700
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Lester Wahl wrote:
>
>   I would like to obtain information on how to unlock the
> Icom-735 to transmit on it's entire frequency spectrum.
>   Has anyone performed these mod(s); or direct me to
> someone who has?
>   Please reply to:  [e-mail]
>
> Thanks.

Call 1-800/USA ICOM  (872-4366)  ask for Tech Support.

The manufacturer knows.....
--
            <> Bob Sull  WA8IMO <>
   "73, CUL, es keep the FUN in Ham radio."
>Life Member-ARRL  QCWA< >Member-NODXA  NCDXF<           >DXCC  WAS  RCC <  >8
P9BC<
             >QSL Mgr for 8P6JG<
          >WA8IMO@NO8M.#NEOH.OH.USA<
             >[e-mail]<



                   Bob Sull
"Take only photographs, leave only footprints."
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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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[e-mail] (Gary Fiber) wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>>>The FCC has issued new rules regarding the evaluation of RF Emissions and
>>>>health effects from all transmitters. As always, the devil is in the detai
ls
[snip]
>>Oh knowledge of the affair isn't really required!  Product liability, for ex
ample
>>transcends all reasonable sane limits for time elapsed on that, with or with
out
>>knowledge.
[snip]
>It might be the manufacturers will have to apply a warning label on equipment
>to remind the installer / user of the possiable electromagnetic radiation
>problems of improperly installed equipment.
[snip]
>I would guess this might also be a good case for antenna heighth.  The higher
>the radiating element the less signal affects the  immediate surrounding area

  YEAH!!!!!  That's the ticket.  Not only can they NOT restrict you
from having a tower, you MUST have at least, say, a 100 foot tower.

  If you can't afford one, the government must assist you in getting
one... today FOOD STAMPS, tomorrow TOWER STAMPS!!  :-)

========== Opinions expressed are solely those of the author =========
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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:41 1996
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From: Roger Basford <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Schematics NEEDED
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In article <[e-mail]>, dave hills <[e-mail]>
writes
>I have a WWII vintage Army receiver, model BC-348, which does not
>operate on the high band.  Does any one know where I can obtain a
>schematic for this model?  I would very much appreciate any help!
>
Dave,

If you have WWW access you could try the site at:-

http://linux.cec.army.mil/Bille/m*.htm, where * is the list number
starting at m1.

This site has a list of most (?) of the radio gear used by US forces
back to WWII and although most of the entries just give basic details of
equipment some of the older stuff has schematics in .GIF format. I'm
fairly sure that the BC-348 will be one of these as it has all the
different marks listed. I copied the BC-1306 TX & RX schematics and they
printed out nicely.

Cheers,


Roger Basford, G3VKM


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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
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Date: 15 Aug 1996 09:32:02 -0700
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KD1YV <[e-mail]> wrote:


>> .--  .  -    .-    -.-.  .-..  ..-  .   .-.-.-

>Wet a clue?  I'd rather not!  Us liberals have more self-control than that.

Why I'm shocked! You did notice. And if liberals had all the self
control you talk about, Clinton would have kept his pants up, mouth
shut and not have married Hillary. But as you can see, that is not the
case.

>> Bob Dole - Simply because any Republican is better than Clinton.

>Gee, Republicans are such sore losers.  I bet you thought that Nixon was a gr
eat
>President, and therefore must have been innocent.

Sure, just as Bill and Hillary must be innocent too! Looks like
MacDougal (Sp?) is going to talk after all..

Who is sore? We haven't lost anything, except in higher taxes, less
freedom and less privacy since the last election. Why, Republicans
just started to set things straight.

>Jim, KD1YV

Good day.

Rob Neff (N7ORY)



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From: [e-mail](David Stinson )
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>                Remember Andersonville!
>
>OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U
>
There were as many southern patriots dead of starvation
and disease in northern concentration camps as in
southern prisoner of war camps....
and the yankees had the food and medicine
that the south lacked.

However--the victors get to write the history books
and tell whatever lies make them look the best,
and the vast hords of sheep accept it.
That's life, I guess.

Anyhow, this isn't a thread for this group,
but I couldn't in good conscience let that bit of
ill-informed yankee bigotry go unanswered.
Please flame me to your heart's content....
in email, not here.

Dave Stinson AB5S
[e-mail]
great-great-grandson of
Major William Stinson,
18th Mississippi Infantry,
who's family never owned a slave
and fought to protect their homes
from raping and pillaging invaders.



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Callsign Lists
Date: 12 Aug 1996 20:47:28 GMT
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In article <4u87o6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Richard E
 Stealey) writes:
-->Dale D. Holloway ([e-mail]) wrote:
-->: Gary, try the following site. All available 1X2 or 2X1 call signs
-->: are listed there.
-->
-->: www.ultranet.com/~bob/
-->
-->
-->I just went there and checked on some calls.  It s not up-to-date.
-->Some calls that I know were reissued a few weeks ago are listed as
-->available on his web page.
-->
-->Rick  KT2Q
-->

That could be.  I update it from QRZ and the latest one is more than
a few weeks old!

Bob

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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:45 1996
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From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
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Subject: Re: Ham's character
Date: 13 Aug 1996 00:05:13 GMT
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In <4unqsa$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim
Kehler) writes:
>
>[e-mail](Gerald Schmitt ) wrote:
>
>>Another cheap shot at all hams by the expert on guts. You haven't
>>posted much this weekend been too busy at the senior center trying to
>>pick a fight? Remember whne you have nothing useful to say you can
>>always post line after line of HIs. Have a nice bigoted week.
>
>Hey, Zippy, I was starting to worry about you. Thought you were
starting to get
>moldy, it's been so long since you came out.  But really, you should
avoid
>messages that have the word 'character' in the subject........
>
>
>
>

Hello Mr. Kehler,

I see that name calling is still the high water mark in your reparte no
matter. I just got a little fed up with Burt insulting folks like you
and I (hams, german extraction etc.). If you are seeking to be Burt's
Champion you have got to stop calling him Spurt. I am assured by any
number of people that I am a character so I guess that it will be OK to
use that word in my posts.

Remember if you can't say anything nice then blase away.

                        Best wishes

                            Jerry



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From: Steve Ickes <[e-mail]>
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Steve Sampson wrote:
>
> T E I X E I R A wrote:
> >
> > >Socialist, communist pimps...  Only a moron would claim to be
> > >a democrat.
> > >
> > >Steve
> >
> > With the likes of people like Nixon, Regan, Bush, Gingrich, Buchanon, Limb
augh and the
> > Watergate Gang.........Do you still want to associate with the Republicans
?????   We sure
> > have short memories.  d8-)
>
> Elephants have good memories.  Like the fact Clinton was a draft
> dodger and a pimp.  At least Nixon got caught in only a cover-up,
> Clinton got caught with the whole fucking FBI files.  And that
> asshole Panetta (or whatever the pimp spells it) saying Gingrich
> lied when he said that the White House staff all had clearance
> problems because of recent drug use.  Turns out the spokesman was
> the biggest pimp of them all.
>
> Only a moron would claim to be a democrat...


Let's face it, both the Dems and Repubs have had their fair share of
problems and crooks along the way.  What started this was the posit that
the Repubs were going to sell off the hams bands.  My contention was that
the Repubs were no more likely to do it than the Dems.  And that the info
put out by the ARRL was in error.

Unfortunately, that discussion turned into a political discussion
(rather than any counter or refute to my original comment)which has
minimal relevance (if any) in these news groups.

S


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber)
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[e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai) wrote:

>In article <4uacqb$[e-mail]> Ed Hare <[e-mail]> writes:
>-The VAST majority of amateur stations are already in compliance with
>-these rules.

>Does it include those (MANY) of us who *CANT* put up a tower; who operate
>with apartment balcony antennas or wires attached to houses?  I can just
>see all the city boards gleefully getting rid of ham radio with the
>"We won't allow a tall tower, and the FCC won't allow power with a low
>antenna" opinions.  I guess it is time to dust off the HW-8.

>We are trying to promote ham radio other than 2M thru repeaters, and now
>we get socked with this.  Or will it be like all those 300 watt Italian
>stations...

>/mike
>(Does the negative gain from my windowsill-mounted hamstick reduce my
>100W to a safe level :-)

>--
>\|/     Michael L. Ardai        N1IST       [e-mail]     \|/
>-*- === Boston Amateur Radio Club:  http://www.barc.org/barc === -*-
>/|\       or send "info barc-list" to [e-mail]        /|\

In this thread there has been mentioned of the FCC study on this issue.  A
number of months ago I downloaded this " article "  for work it prints out to
be over 70 pages. We have nbeen looking at this issue for  a while now
casually.  It was worth the time to download , lots of information  was
surprized to see how many typre of antennas the FCC used for testing and the
tables and charts with test results included..
Download and print it today.  Take a few nights to read and digest it.

Gary



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From: Thomas Foster <[e-mail]>
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Grady Russell wrote:
>
> Passed my no-code tech and now I'm wanting to play! :-) Of course the
> first thing I did was get the scanner in my car but now I want to yack a
> little bit. What all can I do? I was thinking of a mobile unit or handheld
> as it seems I'm always on the road. Figure it could also double as a base
> unit. I also saw a radio that you could make phone calls on. How do you do
> that? What are some good resources for a new HAM? I'd like to really be
> able to talk to people far away. Do I need to learn Morse for this? Any
> help appreciated!
>
> Grady

Congratulations, Grady, on your entry into the wonderful world of Ham
Radio! Your questions have already been answered by others.

Being able to access the world regularly requires operation of the HF
frequencies. Therefore, you need to work on your code. Below, is the URL
of my newest release of a Morse code tutor program for windows. Hope
you'll download it and give it a try.

   http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/ham/imcpw311.zip

Below are its major features:

Morse code tutor for Windows 3.1 & Windows 95. Excellent for learning and
maintaining one's Morse code skills. Has a code speed of 3-50 wpm and a
character speed of 3-50 wpm for Farnsworth code. Includes comprehensive
help facility, main menu and popup menu, and eleven code practice
lessons. Fully customizable from the Options menu. Sound card not
required. Requires 692K of free hard disk.

73,
Lindsay
WA4ISZ


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kerry Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Cheap CW Transceiver?
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 02:35:59 GMT
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Rick Miller <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>Some ham catalogs came in the mail and struck price-shock into Bonnie,
>my wife.  If I can show her that a homebrew rig built out of cheap parts
>and/or salvaged junk is all I require, her relief would be immeasurable.

>Any help would be much appreciated...

>"Rigless" Rick Miller (kb9obn) [e-mail]

To "Rigless" from Kerry in Texas,

Man, I feel like I'm answering a personal ad or something!  My wife
has been pretty much dulled by the catalogs.  She got her ticket and
now she gets the catalogs!

More to the point, I just built a NorCal 40A, from Wilderness Radio.
I think the kit is $135 or so, do a web search for NorCal or
Wilderness Radio.  It is a qrp transceiver, about 2-3 watts, covers a
40-50 KHz segment of 40 meters, has a superhet rx and a great 400 Hz
4-pole xtal filter.

I've had mine for about 2 months now and am having a ball with it.  It
took me about 5 hrs to build, although some people take 15 hrs.  It
has excellent instructions, similar to Heathkit.  If you are handy
with a soldering iron, you won't have any problems.  Sorry, I read the
engineer part, but some of my EE friends don't know which end of the
iron to hold until it has been plugged in for a while!

73 es good luck with the project and the wife!
Kerry Miller, WD5ABC
[e-mail]





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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Prohibits Unreasonable Restrictions on TV Antennas
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 22:33:08 -0400
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Bill Newkirk wrote:
>
> In <[e-mail]>, "James F. Boehner, MD" <[e-mail]> writ
es:
> >Bill Sohl wrote:
> >> [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell) wrote:
> >> >In a major ruling, the FCC declared void local laws prohibiting
> ..
> >> >must be allowed to install TV antennas. Longer term this ruling may
> >> >have important ramifications for eliminating restrictions on Amateur
> >> >Radio antennas.
> >>
> >> Wow, do I have a couple of ideas for some QST articles
> >> that begin  with a title:  How to build a (enter your
> >> favorite band here) meter antenna that looks like a TV
> >> antenna :-)
>
> actually, wouldn't a TV antenna work for 6 and 220 without too much effort?
> and 2m might just work on an LP type antenna...will have to see if it's poss
ible
> to do some measurements....wouldn't expect there to be too much modification
> needed for the use of an existing TV antenna as a transmitting antenna in
> the amateur service -- short of adding a balun (6:1 for 300:50 transformatio
n) and
> maybe doing some minor changes to the element lengths.
>
> >>
> >> Bill Sohl  K2UNK
> >> ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ
> >
> >How about a sky of aluminum with a $40 Radio Shack Antenna on top?
> >YES!!!!!
> >73 de JIM N2ZZ
>
> i wouldn't push it too much as first until things become established for joe
 sixpack
> to have antennas up again.
>
> Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
> Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
> Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
> Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.
let me ask you something bill if i work ssTV on the hf freqs does that
make it a tv antenna ? After all Iam receiving T.V.!


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bennett Z. Kobb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb,
Subject: Re: Family Radio Service -- a list of FAQ's
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In article <[e-mail]>, Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Found these FAQ's.   Whoever maintains the FAQ
>of the rec.radio newsgroups might want to add these.

Thanks for posting the FAQ Joe, although I would have
appreciated credit for writing it ;-)

By the way, the Family Radio Service is as of a few
days ago, no longer the only UHF radio service in the
CB category (see FAQ question #3).

There is a new one: the Low Power Radio Service (LPRS).
The LPRS may only be used for these 4 purposes:

1. Tracking of stolen goods (this is technically called
Law Enforcement Tracking Systems or LETS),

2. Auditory Assistance (transmitting classroom instruction
or church services, for example, to headsets worn by the
hearing-impaired).

3. Health Care Assistance (medical telemetry)

4. Control stations in maritime radio.

No other uses are allowed. No CB style ragchewing is
allowed. The chances of an ordinary person even getting
their hands on a LPRS radio are minimal - they won't be
sold at your local Radio Shack.

Nevertheless, LPRS is officially a form of CB Radio in
the U.S. There is no doubt about it. LPRS operates with
100 mW at 216-217 MHz. No licenses are issued.

73
Bennett Kobb
[e-mail]
The FRS Pages
http://home.navisoft.com/nspi/frs.html


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter A. Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code above 11wpm
Date: 12 Aug 1996 23:42:34 -0700
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle, WA, USA
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Here's another tip. As you start to become comfortable with
>copying at the desired test speed, make your practice code
>loud, distorted, and with a lot of room echo. And have a
>talk radio station going loudly in the next room. That's the
>way it will be at the test session, and you won't be surprised
>(and dismayed) on test day if you've already practiced that way.

Amen to that.  Here's a little story that will amuse and horrify you.

When I took my 20 wpm test (April 1984, the next-to-last session the FCC
gave in Seattle before VECs took over), they gave 20 wpm first.  There
were two or three of us copying. The rest were waiting, getting more
nervous by the minute.  We were seated at several large tables, so I had
to take my test with a bunch of guys staring at me.

One fellow at my table was so fat that his legs barely fit underneath the
table.  He was very nervous about his upcoming 5 wpm test, and began to
jiggle his legs just as my test started!  As went his legs, so went the
table.  So I had to copy several words on the equivalent of a heaving
ship.  When I saw a "double-dash" coming, I slammed my fist down on the
table in front of him and hissed "CUT THAT OUT!"  He stopped immediately.

I passed the test with no problem, but I was pretty rattled and the
adrenaline really flowed!  Fortunately, I had worked my speed up to 25 wpm
before taking the test, and done a lot of CW ragchewing on static-ridden
40 and 80m in the months before.  Between test anxiety and unexpected
distractions like Mr. Jello Legs, it's good to have an edge. And back
then, asking the kindly FCC inspector to restart the tape was *not* an
option.

73,
Peter - KD7MW
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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:54 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q: DX-Cluster on the Internet?
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 96 09:54:22 EDT
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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
> I am searching for any DX-Clusters which can be accessed via the Internet.
>
> Any help will be much appreciated.
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>      Best 73s de David / 4Z5DK
>
>   ax.25 : 4Z5DK @ 4X4HF.ISR.MDLE
>   E-Mail: 4z5dk @ 4x4ac.ampr.org
>           4z5dk @ 4z4zq-1.ampr.org
> ------------------------------------------------
>
I have these listed on my home page at:

http://www.moonstar.com/~wa4pgm/
GL 73,
Kyle

Current DX Spots
Dx Cluster Net
DX-Cluster i Sverige
F6CNB-6
Ft Wayne DX Association
IK5PWJ-6
IT9GSF
K9FN
KI8W-6
KS9K-7
N8BJQ
N9MXT
NF4L
NO4J
PY2XB-6
RW3AH-2
San Diego Cluster
SK6YW-6
VE3CDX
WB9DFD
WD5B



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:56 1996
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From: Julian Sortland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 3D2PI MM Special Event Update  with QSL Info (12 Aug)
Date: 11 Aug 1996 15:12:55 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Internet Sydney, [phone] V.32bis
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12 August 1996

Hello All,

This is some updated information on Peter, 3D2PI's activities, and QSL Info.

Peter (VK2ZPH) is currently Maritime Mobile in the South Pacific, aboard the I
sland Mercy using his Fiji call 3D2PI. The ship is currently in Vanuatu, where
 it will stay until it sets sail for Newcastle, NSW, Australia, to arrive on 2
5 August.

The Island Mercy is a 1000 tonne, 150ft hospital and missionary ship pperated
by Mercy Ships, which is the marine wing of Youth With a Mission (YWAM).

Equipment includes an ICOM HF base/mobile transceiver, tuner, and an "inverted
 V" antenna suspended from the rear mast. Peter also has a Yaesu FT-23R 2m han
dheld which will be used while near land (including the VK4 & VK2 on the way h
ome).

The schedule is as follows:

Times : 0100 UTC and 1030 UTC (11:00am and 8:30pm Eastern Australian Time).

Frequencies (kHz):  80m   3605, 3612
                    40m   7050        Primary frequency
                    20m  14200
                    15m  21200

All +/- QRM.


Communication will first be attempted on 40m. Should contact not be made, 20 a
nd 15m will be tried in that order. 80m is being abandoned for the time being.

This weekend Peter also made skeds at 0500 UTC, and this may continue on futur
e weekends.


Peter's QSL Manager is Simon Clowes.

QSL cards should be sent to:

        3D2PI c/- VK2WLM
        133 Taylor St
        Glen Innes  NSW  2370
        AUSTRALIA

Also see my Web page: "http://godzilla.zeta.org.au/~julian" which includes lin
k to other info on the ships.

Thanks,
Julian.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Why We Present a Bad Image of Ham Radio
Date: 15 Aug 1996 12:40:31 GMT
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 ======= snip =======
> worth hearing to say, but constant remarks like yours will eventually run th
em
> off or turn them into what everyone says they don't want here.  There's
> plenty of unadulterated totally off the wall crap posted here every day. Why
> you chose to attack Jeff, instead of using your one liners somewhere that
> they would be more pratically applied is beyond me.
>
> I can't imagine, Frank, that you are so ignorant of the hobby that you would
> channelize HF.  I can only imagine that you enjoy the bullshit.
>
> So anyway Frank, if anyone ever posts a message again asking why this
> newsgroup is so screwed up, and why it gives ham radio such a bad image,
> (which I'm sure they will) why don't YOU explain to them that it's this way
> because the people who use it every day made it that way, and seem to
> want to keep it that way, and are doing a damn good job of it.
>
> Hafa Adai,
> Jim KH2D
>
>
>
>

Thanks for the Email, Jim.  Seems my server just got this and I am now
seeing it.  As I've said in my email, Jeff's a big boy who can talk for
himself.  He started dishing out his usual crap and I responded.  If he
can only make an intellegent comment when HE posts then he should be able
to make one when he contributes to someone else's posts.

If Jeff were to take the time and read what others are saying instead of
monologuing, that would help the group tremedously too.

I couldn't care less about channelizing anything.  Call freqs what you
want. po-tay-to po-ta-to.

I think this group would be a lot better without the one liners,
unfortunately some people don't stop dishing out until they receive some.
An unfortunate part of dealing with egocentrics (Not necessarily Jeff).

Anyways I'm gonna follow my one advice and save the bandwidth.  (or is
that channel???)



From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:50:58 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM License Vehicle Plates
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:48:56 GMT
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Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[e-mail] (Will Sheffield) wrote:
>>I am looking for information concerning what states allow you to have more
>>than one vehicle registered with the same HAM call sign.  If hyou have
>>information concering this, please e-mail me.  I would like to see if I cann
't
>>get the state of Oregon to go along with this plan also.

>I am not sure if I am following exactly what you want to do.

>If you want to have the same plate on more than one car, I would say
>"good luck".

>Here in California (and I imagine many other states) you can get ham
>plates for you car without paying too much.  A one time fee (lat i
>checked it was $21) and that was it.  No added annual fees such as those
>charged to "personalized" plates.

>Just like any other type of vehicle registration - you can't have the
>same plate number on two cars (exception here being car dealer,
>distributer and manufacturer plates - but they pay a lot for those
>"special" plates).  Even when personalized, plates need to be unique.

>But if you want to, you could put "call" plates on your second car and
>name like a packet node or something.  For example "N7THL-2".  But in CA
>that second one would just be a personalized plate and would be subject
>to all of the associated setup and recurring charges.  Don't know why you
>couldn't do that in Oregon.

>Curtis

We can do just that in Texas iI have three cars  with the same call
sign on  them . each is two dollars extra each year.. makes for a
little fun at plate buying time... after several years of doing this
they all try to hide  when they see me coming..


73'S
N5BGQ'







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From: [e-mail] (Steven L. Finberg)
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                     August 18th,  1996
                         9AM-2PM

Come to the city for a great flea - plenty of free parking.

        MIT's  electronics and ham radio flea will take
        place on the third Sunday of each month this summer,
        April thru October.

        There is tailgate space for over 600 sellers and
        free, off-street parking for >1000 cars!

        Buyers admission is $4  (you get $1 off if
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From [e-mail] Fri Aug 16 15:51:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gill Blue)
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Subject: RE: LATEST WEB-HAM.LIST FOR AUG/96
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 05:22:52 GMT
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Hello,

 Just installed newsgroups and saw you call, I run a ham bbs here also
 running wildcat 5.0. Telnet, http ftp to kb4fsk.com

 73's

 Gill


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is available at;)
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look on the page for web ham sites/page by KB6AXK..
73 & 88

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From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:08 1996
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From: [e-mail](David Stinson )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: *URGENT SITUATION IN LAS VEGAS!*
Date: 20 Aug 1996 08:02:11 GMT
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***URGENT SITUATION ARISES IN LAS VEGAS!***
        Suggestions requested!

A single ham moved here to Las Vegas
from California and (gasp!!)
DIDN'T put-up yet another
useless, unused repeater!!!!!

This is contrary to ham tradition
and standards!  We can't tolerate
such responsible and unselfish
behavior!

Your input requested!
73 Dave AB5S



From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:12 1996
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From: John--Mackey--KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: .435 repeater in L.A. homepage? Where?
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:13:07 -0700
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To: John Minger <[e-mail]>

John Minger wrote:

> >: >147.435? Damn!  That's the most messed up repeater in all of L.A. area.
> >: >
> [snip]
> >When they do shut the thing down - which is not often, the
> >characters do seem to go and infect other machines.
> >I'd say leave them there.
>
> No, no, no, no.  If we don't intend to enforce the laws we make,
> then we ought to repeal them.  If the ham community wants it cleaned
> up, then we can get it done.  --and WE SHOULD!!  Who is in charge --
> the LIDS that make 435 a cesspool, or the rest of us?


The problem is that you can't PRACTICALLY enforce the rules to the
extent
needed.  Hell, it is LEGAL to swear on ham radio as long as you are not
doing so during prime hours or offending the normal listeners.

I operate the 147.435 repeater in Portland & have similar users
to the San Francisco & LA systems.  We are providing a BADLY
needed service to the ham community by giving refuge to
the undesirables & helping keep the other system cleaner.

Unfortunately, there are to many anal retentive LIDS that
do not understand this.


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Pritchard)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1,000,000 qsl cards thrown away per year
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[e-mail] (albert corker) wrote:

>the rsgb have 2,000,000 cards through per year but only 50% are
>collected. what a waste of trees by radio amateurs.
>what can be done to lessen this waste.

Err..... stop sending them? <g>

Seriously though, in this day of electronic signatures and
verification systems, why not institute Net-QSL cards?  If we can use
our credit cards over the Net (well, we will soon, with total safety)
then getting QSL cards across the Net should be a doddle for amateurs
with teh technology to get on line.

Methinks a winter projects....

Joe, G0RNC.
There's only one decision to make;
get busy living or get busy dying.

Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank redemption.



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From: Lawrence <[e-mail]>
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albert corker wrote:
>
> the rsgb have 2,000,000 cards through per year but only 50% are
> collected. what a waste of trees by radio amateurs.
> what can be done to lessen this waste.

The QSL card is the ultimate junk mail to many of us. Only a few people
bother to ask me if I will reply to their cards. A couple of years ago
a PY told me, at the end of the QSO, that he would send me a card via
the bureau. I told him that I do not collect, or reply to, QSLs and that
I did not have any envelopes with the bureau. He then said that as he had
written it he would send it anyway!

Perhaps the time has come to abandon certificates such as DXCC.

73, Lawrence GJ3RAX


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From: "Mike B." <[e-mail]>
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albert corker ([e-mail]) wrote:
: the rsgb have 2,000,000 cards through per year but only 50% are
: collected. what a waste of trees by radio amateurs.
: what can be done to lessen this waste.:

Is that why the RSGB are at a standstill, spending all their time
counting uncollected cards?

In any event, a million cards is a mere microcosm compared with the number
of forests passing through most households in the form of junk mail and
hand bills.

How about a campaign to cut back on kitchen tissues, a real wood waster.


Mike.



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Lawrence <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Perhaps the time has come to abandon certificates such as DXCC.

>73, Lawrence GJ3RAX

Or maybe it's time to just pass them out on the honor system. Doesn't
bother me if someone else was to cheat on thier DXCC.  Oh, but then
we couldn't do the honor system - too many people at the ARRL's
DXCC desk would be out of a job......

73, Jim KH2D




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I was on a mountain top in Maine. I recognized a house belonging to a
90 year old lady. I stopped by her house to chat. She pointed to a
densely wooded hill and said, when she was a girl the hill was
blueberry fields. What a concept...trees could actually grow naturally.

A friend went to Maine from the California desert. She was surprized to
see that people cut trees to build houses. In the desest they plant
trees when the build houses.

City people see pavement preventing trees, country people see trees
preventing pavement. (reminds me of the three blind men and the
elephant)

Why not plant a couple trees


Yellowstone recovered


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From: [e-mail] (Julian Sortland)
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Hi All,

Sked times are: 1030UTC on 3650 and 0200 on 7050.

Peter is arriving back in Newcastle on Thursday, so those along the NSW
coast should be able to talk to him on 147.100 and later on 146.725
repeaters.

QSL info on http://godzilla.zeta.org.au/~julian/QSL.html

73 de Julian, VK2YJS
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From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:18 1996
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Have been out of the contesting/dx loop for a while and am wondering
what the address for the 6th district QSL bureau is these days??
Also, what are the fees for getting envelopes out of the bureau.  I thought
it used to be about $2.00 for 5 envelopes???

Rich KI6ZH

--
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From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:19 1996
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I'm looking for long range (>2km) 900 Mhz cordless phone.
If you have any information, recomendation please send me to

[e-mail]

Thanks

Thaddy



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here it is.




From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
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Hope someone can help me . I am looking for the email and hopefully
the Internet address for the Amateur magazines.

Thanks for your help.
73   john

St. John  of Wood Dale =======================================
John Chasteen     ( Near the center of the Universe...)
1 Thes 5:16          ( Near Chicago, Illinois.. USA )
voice 630-860-2580          [e-mail]
=========================================================


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:21 1996
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FS Hoka Code 3 with ALL options. Includes Klig. frq guide, all
instructions. Like New

$ 450.00 or BO

Please email as I do not check in too often
[e-mail]
Steve
423-525-0801



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AC6V <[e-mail]> wrote:


>Hi Rich, all 30 pages of the FCC text are to be found at URL:

>http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Cable/Orders/fcc96328.txt

Thanks for the pointer. The regulation looks fairly ironclad to me.
HOA's must allow TV antennas and 1m dishes. I think I will mail a copy
of this to my HOA and get rid of the old cable monopoly I have been
dealing with. At $30.00/mo., a TV antennas with mast and rotor will
pay off very quickly!

>Lets all hope they extend this ruling to the Amateur Radio Service.

The legislation was driven by the type of economics thar we amateurs
cannot muster. Also, with fewer people using cable, there could
actually be more objections to amateur transmissions in these living
quarters built in such close proximity. However, TVI and other
interference concerns cannot be extected to improve when a law is
issued giving free reign to most types of telecommunications. You can
argue for a long time that you use your tribander antenna for TV
reception (perhaps not the best reception) on the same antenna that
you happen to transmit with. That's *if* anyone notices a difference
between a TV antenna and a tribander (say a 10/15/20).
Anyways, it's something to try I guess ;)

>Good Luck with the HOA -- mine is hopeless.

I think after reading the regulation that your >HOA< is out of luck.
You would have to have special circumstances affecting 'safety' (this
would normally apply to tower hieght with respect to the closest
adjacent residence, or possible zoning regulations for wind strength
in some areas) or you would have to be in a historic district.

If your HOA does not believe the new regulation, or cannot undertsand
it, it seems that you do not have to pay any penalties even if they
'fine' you. Like I say, it looks fairly ironclad but then again I am
not a lawyer. I still think anyone having to live with one of these
stupid antenna restrictions would be fairly safe going ahead and
putting up a TV antenna...not much to lose, and a rather clear federal
pre-emption to back you up.

73

KR4AJ



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In article <4uvhre$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
writes:
>
> Perhaps the use of an HT helped keep the cancer cells at lower level
> than they would have been without it?

Anything's possible -- ask Beck, Rife, or Lakhovsky.  (OK, Beck -- the rest ar
e
dead.)  But if EM radiation does have non-thermal biological effects, my guess
is that at an arbitrary frequency and power level it would be more likely to
harm than help.

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From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:28 1996
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>keep emotion out of this ruling. Self-denial that RF cannot cause illness
>will only hurt yourself, but coming on here and stating that to hundreds

Unfortunately, your emotionally charged arguement is all you have to
prove your point that regulation is needed to the level it has been
applied.

It would be much better if we could ignore the people who wanted
to pass laws based on ficticious or emotionally founded fantasies.

Every so often the government does that, goes out on a "jag".  They take
some information that is normally quite emotionally charged and use
it to pass laws that far surpass the need.

A good example was the "fact" that 50,000 children a year are abducted
and we needed new laws to stem this tide.  They passed a bunch of new
laws, citing the dopey figure, without ever considering that it was
a lie.  The laws remain to show how harmful a well-meaning but terribly
misdirected group can do.

--
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Steve Wolf ([e-mail]) wrote:

: A good example was the "fact" that 50,000 children a year are abducted
: and we needed new laws to stem this tide.  They passed a bunch of new
: laws, citing the dopey figure, without ever considering that it was
: a lie.  The laws remain to show how harmful a well-meaning but terribly
: misdirected group can do.

They neglected to say that, perhaps, in 95 percent of these cases the
children were "abducted" by the child's non-custodial parent.


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Rob Neff wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman) wrote:
>
> >More like a fantasy. I am *very* sorry to read of your loss; statistics
>
> Fantasy? RF is used all the time in medicine. Tell that to the
> Chiropractor that totaly screws up 10m with his massaging wand. Uses
> RF in the 27-28 MHz band to warm tissue deep inside. Tell that to my
> Dentist who used an 'Radio Scapel' to trim back my gums the other day.
>
> >show 1 in 4 women will suffer from that form of cancer. But let's please
> >keep emotion out of this ruling. Self-denial that RF cannot cause illness
> >will only hurt yourself, but coming on here and stating that to hundreds
> >of thousands of folks is irresponsible.
>
> No self denial. It would be irresponsible to keep quiet and bend over
> for crap like this. They show proof that it harms, and how, then we
> will worry about it. I thought we stopped using 'blood-letting' as a
> treatment a long time ago, what they sugguest is the same thing.
>
> 'We don't know what it is, or if it is at all, but slit their rists
> and let some blood out just in case.'
>
> >Keep your HT at its lowest power setting (not only for health reasons
> >but also to comply with Part 97). Use a speaker mic and hold the HT
> >at arm's length when transmitting (who cares what that will look like -
> >you'll be setting a good example).
>
> Compliance in the face of stupidity is cowardice.
>
> >Be safe,
> >Jeff KH2PZ
>
> Ditto..
>
> Rob Neff (N7ORY)Hey Rob, go talk to W5RWW, he can teach you a little bit. 73
. Brian.


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff (N7ORY))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: FS: All Ham Bands, Reply to Republican Congress
Date: 17 Aug 1996 23:48:03 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
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[e-mail] wrote:


>AGREED:
> President William Jefferson Clinton is the greatest president since
> George Washington.

>Now can we get back to shortwave?

GAG!




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From: John Lee <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: MOTOROLA SPECTRA 900 TRUNKING RADIO
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FS: MOTOROLA SPECTRA 900 TRUNKING RADIO

MD#  D37KGA5JB7CK        $ 600 OBO

MD#  D37KGA5JB5DK        $ 550 OBO


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:32 1996
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From: John Lee <[e-mail]>
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FS:NEW YAESU BATTERYS & SPEAKER MIC

FNB-31  $ 40 +SHIP
FNB-38  $ 50 +SHIP
FNB-40  $ 35 +SHIP
FNB-41  $ 40 +SHIP


NEW YAESU SPEAKER MIC

MH-12    $ 20 + SHIP
MH-32    $ 20 + SHIP


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roy Lewallen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Generators -- Any thoughts?
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 96 20:04:59 GMT
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In article <4v0uvs$[e-mail]>, <> wrote:
>With the power outage here in the west last Saturday,
>I was thinking about getting a multi use generator.
>
>Does the group have any thoughts?
>
>I'm thinking 2250 watts, good muffler, to run fridge,
>couple of lights, couple of fans, maybe alternating
>fridge (1 hour on) with room air conditioner (3 hours
> on).  Field day once a year, emergencies other times.
>. . .

How big of a generator does it take to start a typical freezer or
refrigerator? I have a 1 kW generator, and it wouldn't even begin to start
the freezer motor, even though the running power is much less than the
generator's capacity.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


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In Article<4v2k74$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> Path:
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> From: [e-mail] (Roy Lewallen)
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Re: Generators -- Any thoughts?
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>
> Roy Lewallen, W7EL
I wonder if you let the freezer sit idle before you started to try the
generator. The don't like to start under compression, and need to have the
refrigerant de-compress before restarting.

There is a 30kw generator for sale near here. It is designed to be run from
the power take off shaft of a farm tractor. Mounted on a small two wheel
trailer. About the size of a large lawnmower.

to many $$ at 1650 for me.

73 - John   aa2gv




From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
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Subject: Re: Got No-Code...now what?
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Thomas Foster ([e-mail]) writes:
> Grady Russell wrote:
>>
>> Passed my no-code tech and now I'm wanting to play! :-) Of course the
>> first thing I did was get the scanner in my car but now I want to yack a
>> little bit. What all can I do? I was thinking of a mobile unit or handheld
>> as it seems I'm always on the road. Figure it could also double as a base
>> unit. I also saw a radio that you could make phone calls on. How do you do
>> that? What are some good resources for a new HAM? I'd like to really be
>> able to talk to people far away. Do I need to learn Morse for this? Any
>> help appreciated!
>>
>> Grady
 ======= snip =======

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

you'll know morse in no time...


I used an HTX202 in my car as a mobile for a real long time.  That's all
you need.  email me if you want a cheap design for a solid holder.

PS: Ignore the non ham crap in this group.


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:36 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Ham's character
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Gerald Schmitt wrote:
>
> >How did you abuse my sig block?
>
> Review some of my older posts I'm afraid I added a touch or two.

I am sorry I missed them. What did you say?
I can take the hit.


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
#======================================================================#


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:39 1996
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In <[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Gerald Schmitt wrote:
>
>> Thank you Burt and I will stop abusing your sig block. Both of us
being
>> civil to each other should scare the Hell of some folks.
>
>How did you abuse my sig block?

Review some of my older posts I'm afraid I added a touch or two.

>Anyone who is civil to me becomes a marked person by other users.
>
>
>#================#====================================================
#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics
|
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)
|
>|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.
|
>#================#====================================================
#
>| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]
|
>#=====================================================================
#



From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:40 1996
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> > |  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronic
               |         and more crap
> > | Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
> > |    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
                         if he is 1"
> > #================#=====================================================#
> > | [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
> > #======================================================================#
I have learned a lot from this part of the news group.What I've learned
is to mark all Bert's postings without reading them!!!!!!


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Ham's character
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In article <[e-mail]>, Jeff King  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Yeap, at times Burt does remind me of Wayne Green, W2NSD also. W2NSD,
>in his editorials in 73 Magazine, often went against the "ham radio
>collective" opinion/mindset. If you were able to finish his editorial,
>it often made you think and question the status quo. It appears this
>is painful for many people.

NSD's attacks upon the ARRL always seemed without merit; he came across
to me as being jealous of the ARRL's following. My collection of 73
went back to issue #2 - I enjoyed the articles but not the editorials.
Jeff KH2PZ


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Ham's character
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 Frank Sved wrote:

> TYPICAL BURTS HAVE NO INTEGRITY, MORAL FIBRE.  REMEMBER BURT, THERE ARE
> THOSE THAT KNOW AND THOSE THAT DO.  A/V TEACHERS ARE FAT, UGLY, AND CAN'T
> KEEP GIRLFRIENDS.

Hi again, Frank,
I thought you were going to start saving disk space by not sending
"one liners" anymore? To call someone fat and ugly really isn't in
keeping with our fine 80-year-old culture, is it?
Jeff KH2PZ


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:44 1996
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From: tim phillips <[e-mail]>
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Well,
 I don't know where to start. Chris seems to be tring to end this crap.
If burt dosen't like hams he must not like himself! he would be the best
judge!!! THIS IS A HAM GROUP AND IF THAT IS NOT TO YOUR LIKING GO TO
REC.CB OR ALT LIFESTYLES don't wast your time repling to me i'll keep
skipping replies by name





                 tim


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Ham's character
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Burt Fisher  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Gerald Schmitt wrote:

>> >How did you abuse my sig block?

>> Review some of my older posts I'm afraid I added a touch or two.

>I am sorry I missed them. What did you say?
>I can take the hit.

Now that you boys have kissed and made up, why not take the love
notes to email?

KH2PZ


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:46 1996
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From: Woody White <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: HELP: IS PC SWITCHING POWER SUPPLY OK???
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Bry wrote:
>
> The other bad problem with many of those old switcher power supplies is
> that they generate a lot of RF hash!
Tight shielding, quality bypassing caps (ie: 500pf + .1uf + >10uf, and
ferrite choke in line should kill most noise.

Be sure your power supply includes minimum load resistor.  Some may not.
If not, under light loading the supply could fall out of regulation.
Before hooking to $$ equipment, check voltage at all expected loads.

73, Woody




> [e-mail] (Big Boy) scribbled:
>
> |I have a old crap 8088 'tole box' as you can say!  With the power supply.
> It's
> |rated 7Amp at 12 Volts but i'm wandering if i can use it to supply my mobil
e
> |(used as a base) 13.8V tranceiver unit.  I dont know much of switching powe
r
> |supply technology and i want to know if it's safe.  The problem may be when
 i
> |switch from RX to TX and from TX to RX... could there be a fatal burst of
> |voltage?  Or peraps with a big cap, like 22 000uF, at the exit i can contro
l
> |those peek?
>
> |Unfortunately, i dont have an scope to make charge test.
>
> |E-mail me on that please...
>
> |Thanks and 73 to all readers
>
>
> Brian Carling in Gaithersburg, MD USA

--
de  Woody (WB4QXE) -  [e-mail]
Electron Microscopist/Microanalysist,
Ham radio "homebrewer", shade tree mechanic,
'90 Nissan 240SX, wish still had my Mcycle too!
.


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bry)
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The other bad problem with many of those old switcher power supplies is
that they generate a lot of RF hash!

[e-mail] (Big Boy) scribbled:

|I have a old crap 8088 'tole box' as you can say!  With the power supply.
It's
|rated 7Amp at 12 Volts but i'm wandering if i can use it to supply my mobile
|(used as a base) 13.8V tranceiver unit.  I dont know much of switching power
|supply technology and i want to know if it's safe.  The problem may be when i
|switch from RX to TX and from TX to RX... could there be a fatal burst of
|voltage?  Or peraps with a big cap, like 22 000uF, at the exit i can control
|those peek?

|Unfortunately, i dont have an scope to make charge test.

|E-mail me on that please...

|Thanks and 73 to all readers

|---------------------------------------
|"640K will be ok for everyone..."

|Bill Gates '82
|---------------------------------------

|                       The Big Boy


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From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:50 1996
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From: Dave Potter <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: how can I broadcast on FM radio?
Date: 16 Aug 1996 20:16:56 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dave Bryndal) wrote:
>
>buy a "Mr. Microphone"

Ur bad, Dave

73s

Dave Potter
KC5UDZ



From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin M. Callahan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Icom IC-Z1A Need MARS Mod.
Date: 17 Aug 1996 19:40:13 GMT
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I need the MARS out of band TX/RX mod for the Icom IC-Z1A if anyone
out there has it. I assume that it involves removing a diode as most
do.
Thanks
N1WNW



From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carl S. Littlejohns)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IS THERE AN INDEX OF NETS?
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 13:07:28 GMT
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I was wondering, with the wide appeal that ham radio has, and the
number of nets that have run over the years, has anyone collated
the hf nets that do exist and listed them anywhere.  Could be
that a central point for posting the existance of nets could
attract a few more folk.

Anyone?

Carl          [e-mail]  GQRP 9107
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/csl/gw0tqm.htm


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steven Kerns)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: License required for CB radio repair
Date: 17 Aug 1996 15:43:54 GMT
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In article <4u0a6q$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>>A fine job has been done here in explaining what certification means...
>>but to the answer the original question, "License required for CB
>>radio repair?" - the answer is "no" - no license required.
>>
>>Curtis
>>GROL
>
>Im confused, I was under the assumtion that ANY transmitting device
>above a few milliwatts (not sure of the level) would require at least
>General Radiotelephone cert. in order to do any TX adjustment. Anyone
>else?
>
>Tim ka8ddz
>
>
At one time a license was require but I guess the goverment
decided that the cost of licensing and enforcement was
not worth it.  Now anybody can work any transmitter they wish,
the owner of the transmitter is liable for their equipment if
it causes interference.  The only transmitters that still requires
a licensed technician is equipment mounted upon a sea going vessel.

Steven Kerns  N3FTI
Penn Biomedical Support, Inc.
General Radiotelephone Certificate # PG-3-5739
[e-mail]




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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: License required for CB radio repair
Date: 19 Aug 1996 17:36:17 GMT
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[e-mail] (Steven Kerns) wrote:

[edited]

>>Im confused, I was under the assumtion that ANY transmitting device
>>above a few milliwatts (not sure of the level) would require at least
>>General Radiotelephone cert. in order to do any TX adjustment. Anyone
>>else?

>At one time a license was require but I guess the goverment
>decided that the cost of licensing and enforcement was
>not worth it.  Now anybody can work any transmitter they wish,
>the owner of the transmitter is liable for their equipment if
>it causes interference.  The only transmitters that still requires
>a licensed technician is equipment mounted upon a sea going vessel.

... and aircraft stations.

Curtis
KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL



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From: [e-mail] (Steven Kerns)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: License required for CB radio repair
Date: 20 Aug 1996 01:53:12 GMT
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I did not know that you still were required to have a license for
nav/com/RADAR on aircraft.  When I left Beechcraft in 1982 anyone
who worked on transmitters had to have a license but the recent
magazines I read only talked about ocean going vessles and Satellite.
Now the only transmitters I repair are medical telemetry, you would
thing the FCC would include medical telemety under one of the services
that still require licenses.  I guess that one slipped by them...

Steven Kerns N3FTI
Penn Biomedical Support, Inc.
General Radiotelephone Certificate # PG-3-5739
[e-mail]


In article <4va8mh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>[e-mail] (Steven Kerns) wrote:
>
>[edited]
>
>>>Im confused, I was under the assumtion that ANY transmitting device
>>>above a few milliwatts (not sure of the level) would require at least
>>>General Radiotelephone cert. in order to do any TX adjustment. Anyone
>>>else?
>
>>At one time a license was require but I guess the goverment
>>decided that the cost of licensing and enforcement was
>>not worth it.  Now anybody can work any transmitter they wish,
>>the owner of the transmitter is liable for their equipment if
>>it causes interference.  The only transmitters that still requires
>>a licensed technician is equipment mounted upon a sea going vessel.
>
>... and aircraft stations.
>
>Curtis
>KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL
>



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From: Harry Clinton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Lightning Protection
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 17:54:46 -0500
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Lightning protection and static discharge information for towers, masts
and antennas.  Informative brochure.  E-mail postal address you would
like information sent.


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:44:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY
Date: 19 Aug 1996 00:58:11 GMT
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Matt Baraga ([e-mail]) wrote:

Sigh, will they never end?

: Jason Todland 174 Los Olivos Ave. Daly City Ca 94014 (USA)
: Tod Mcknight 255 Eastoak St Seattle WA 32588 (USA)
: Jeci C0/ Traci Marks PO Box 19549 Cinti, OH 45219-0549 (USA)
: Matt Baraga 111 White Ibis Ct. Daytona Beach FL 32119 (USA)
: Robert Byrne 6229 Donna Circle Port Orange Fl 32127 (USA)

: 2.  Now, remove the 1st name on the above list, there will only be four
: left then.  Now, add you name and
:      as the fifth one (last!!!!!!).

: If you can't be honest, you deserve to at least loose out on all of your
: time and effort on the internet.

Note that this ass agrees that he should "loose (sic)". He placed himself
4th.

Is there any way to stop this nonsense?

Bill


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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mr Happy should be happy SOME of the time.
Date: 16 Aug 1996 12:40:30 GMT
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) writes:
> Frank Sved wrote:
>
>> And in A/V teachers Burt?  Mr Happy's not so happy when the police call.
>
>
> Hey if you think you know something, spill it out.
> But if you value your life as it is today, be truthful.
> I have been down this road before and burned some people.
>
> #================#=====================================================#
> |  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
> | Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
> |    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
> #================#=====================================================#


Thanks for the email Burt.

I take threats of physical violence very seriously, Burt.  What will you do to
me?


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond T. Gramas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need schematic tcm 3105,am7910,am7911
Date: 17 Aug 1996 13:13:33 GMT
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Hello and tnks for reading this. If anyone has or knows where to get
these schematics please advise me: TCM 3105, AM 7910, AM 7911.
Ray KA9ITZ

[e-mail]


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Subject: Re: New Ham Radio Discussion Area on the Web!
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:10:24 -0700
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James Van Houten wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Will keep it short and to the point.  There is a new resource for Ham radio
> topics.  It is on the web.  Come on over and visit
> http://www.coronetsec.com/hamradio  All hamradio topics welcome.  Hope to
> see you there soon.
>
> Jim
> KA3TTU
>
> ps.  Don't forget to tell all of your non-newsgroup readin' friends!!  :-)
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> James Van Houten     http://www.coronetsec.com/hamradio
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
I'll have to go and check it out!
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
--
Dave Booth
kc6wfs dmo4rk


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:03 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: New Home Page!
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:20:26 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
Check out new picture of comet Hale-Bopp, and some neat links!
http://www.psnw.com/~dritchie/
73
don

>Check out my new home page. It has "Amateur Radio" area with several
>links to good things. Has information on tcp/ip, and some good ftp
>sites!

>enjoy 73

>k6pgt





From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Russ)
Subject: Re: Packet software
Message-ID: <8107cc$11a14.ba@NEWS>
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"Scott Vicini" <[e-mail]> wrote:

:>Does anybody have a copy of the new PcPakratt for windows? I would like a
:>copy of it if I can.
:>[e-mail]

Someone sure does Scott, AEA is the company you want to talk to.
PcPakratt for Windows is not free ware or shareware. And they are
pretty slick at the hidden Registration info in the software. A decent
programmer can get around it but I sure wouldn't recommend it.
Far better to pay the price and get the book along with support. There
will be quite a few things you run into that are only in the book. Of
course if you have someone that can help you along the way because
they have the book and some experience....

De N5EJS
Russ
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make an "A"  if you look in the right place.
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From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:06 1996
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i see an accident on the way to work,i call it in on autopatch,i wait
for cops and ambulance,help injured people,CALL WORK to say i will be
late,give info to cops.ok?


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:07 1996
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From: "Graham C. Cebulskie KB8RDM" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Seeking past OCAS ARA membership
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:29:02 -0400
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If you have been a member of the OMI-College of Applied Science Amateur
Radio Association K8ORW please send e-mail with your name, call-sign, and
the dates you were a member.  Please include your postal mail address.
If you could, include information on the activities and the names of
any other members and officers that were during the same period.  Thanks and
73 de

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/ President                            Packet:  KB8RDM@W8YX.#CIN.OH.USA.NA /
/ OCAS Amateur Radio Association        Voice:  145.450- MHz               /
/ Editor:  The Repeater                 WWW:  http://129.137.102.71/~kb8rdm/
/ Electrical Engineering Technology    Creating a high public visibility   /
/ OMI College of Applied Science       of Amateur Radio and having a great /
/ University of Cincinnati             time with the hobby!                /
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I have book on tube setups.
I need schematic to repair the Senscor TC-136.
Does anyone have one that they can send to me?
Thanks, Marvin


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:08 1996
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From: Bob Snyder <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ten Tec, Advice
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:31:57 -0600
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Well, I just received my call sign and am looking at building a
radio.  One of the kits I've seen is by Ten Tec.  Does anyone
have any experience with this company?  I would like to hear you
opinions, good and bad.

The kits may not have all of the features on it, but I would
like to build a radio.  The 2 meter kit for example doesn't have
DTMF on it, but I should be able to add it on.

Thanks,
KB0YGD
Bob


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:09 1996
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not sure if this is the right, group, but here goes.
I'm looking for schematics for a little reciver/ transmitter combo for
use in my  and my partner's motorcycle helmets as her voive is too
petite to be heard at speed. PTT not necessary, crystal controlled is
fine- im new to radio, so I'm looking for something that wont take
much if any tweaking/calibration. Prefer images rather than ascii as I
can NEVER figure out the ascii drawings...:) any picture format is
fine..
im looking for a battery powered setup that transmits maybe 300 feet
tops.( for when i give the second kit to a car driver)
email pls..
[e-mail]
TIA





From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Felipe)
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Subject: TS-700 IC-290 JRC-JST-135
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Hi,

I need manual or diagram or any information on any of these radio:

JRC's JST-135

ICOM IC-290

KENWOOD TS-700

Thanks and 73's


Felipe PU1WLF



From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:10 1996
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From: Steve Eklund <[e-mail]>
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>
> I guess it was the Republicans that took 11 meters from us, 5 meters,
> 220-222 and everything else right?  Take a look at who makes the
> decisions about these issues, and take a look at who appoints the
> commisioners to seats at the FCC. <HINT> Clinton is about to appoint
> one..
>
> .--  .  -    .-    -.-.  .-..  ..-  .   .-.-.-
>
> Rob Neff (N7ORY)
>
> Bob Dole - Simply because any Republican is better than Clinton.


I absolutely agree, but I still don't know what you mean by the Morse
Code message, "Wet a clue."

73 from Steve


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From: [e-mail] (John Minger)
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Subject: Re: West Coast Blackout
Date: 17 Aug 1996 20:45:29 GMT
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[hope you don't mind my not re-posting this entire thread for you]

Since I let out my "yelp" about Telco being tarred with a broad
brush and the implication made that the phone system failed during
the power outage, a lot of good press has shown up here.  I'm
pleased to see that virtually every report seemed to confirm
my experience that phone service came through it well.  Thanks.

Peter Coffee AC6EN, responded well to my gripe, too.  His statement
was regarding his own experience with another phone company, not
Pacific Bell.

I want to say again that I don't want to detract from Peter's
message that Los Angeles County Disaster Communications Service
did a really good job during the blackout.  I'll have to admit
I was chuckling to myself at the control operator asking for
reports from Sheriff's stations about where the power was out.
He could have done it much faster if he had asked them which
areas had POWER ON.  That was a short list.

Now that I've whined that phone service is so good, I'll probably
end up eating crow when Murphy's law comes to get me.

73 and thanks to all the posters,
John Minger, AC6VV (DCS Z-148)


From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:15 1996
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From: [e-mail](Anthony Severdia)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: West Coast Blackout
Date: 17 Aug 1996 21:26:36 GMT
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In <4v5b19$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John
Minger) writes:
>
>[hope you don't mind my not re-posting this entire thread for you]
>
>Since I let out my "yelp" about Telco being tarred with a broad
>brush and the implication made that the phone system failed during
>the power outage, a lot of good press has shown up here.  I'm
>pleased to see that virtually every report seemed to confirm
>my experience that phone service came through it well.  Thanks.
>
>Peter Coffee AC6EN, responded well to my gripe, too.  His statement
>was regarding his own experience with another phone company, not
>Pacific Bell.
>
>I want to say again that I don't want to detract from Peter's
>message that Los Angeles County Disaster Communications Service
>did a really good job during the blackout.  I'll have to admit
>I was chuckling to myself at the control operator asking for
>reports from Sheriff's stations about where the power was out.
>He could have done it much faster if he had asked them which
>areas had POWER ON.  That was a short list.
>
>Now that I've whined that phone service is so good, I'll probably
>end up eating crow when Murphy's law comes to get me.
>
>73 and thanks to all the posters,
>John Minger, AC6VV (DCS Z-148)

John-

    You did very well and it is very much appreciated by this
technophile.  The only reason I jumped in to fray was to relate
my personal experience with PacBell in S.F., where power outage
by PG&E was widespread; and the fact that PacBell held up with
exemplary fashion. The charge of telco failures was uncalled for
as I saw it.

    Would you mind telling us how long initial 48V battery backup
can run and when do deisel generators kick-in?

    I think this would "clear a lot of cobwebs" about how telco
systems provide such reliable service.

    -=Tony=-    W6ANV   in San Francisco



From [e-mail] Wed Aug 21 13:45:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Why We Present a Bad Image of Ham Radio
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Frank Sved <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Thanks for the Email, Jim.  Seems my server just got this and I am now
>seeing it.  As I've said in my email, Jeff's a big boy who can talk for
>himself.  He started dishing out his usual crap and I responded.  If he
>can only make an intellegent (SIC) comment when HE posts then he should be ab
le
>to make one when he contributes to someone else's posts.

Let's see now, I believe I wrote: "If, while on the air, you're going to
start refering to each HF frequency as the center of a channel, be pre-
pared to be called a lid. In 20 years of being a General I've never
heard "channel" being used on HF.... One wonders if Shannon defines
`Ham Radio'."

One could consider that a bit of useful advice to newcomers. Our
ham radio culture is over 80 years old, and culture has to play
just as important a role in our day-to-day on-the-air activities as
textbook definitions. A new ham with only a textbook at his/her side
might become very discouraged very quickly if (s)he isn't made aware
of the cultural particulars of our hobby in advance; they might
encounter abrupt endings to QSOs otherwise.

So tell me Frank, what "usual crap" did I dish out in the above? What
do you find so offensive about it that you'd say it's a waste of
bandwidth (whatever that means - don't you mean disk space?).

>If Jeff were to take the time and read what others are saying instead of
>monologuing, that would help the group tremedously too.

The short paragraph above was a response to Gary, and was supposed
to finally end this textbook vs culture tug-of-war.

>I think this group would be a lot better without the one liners,
>unfortunately some people don't stop dishing out until they receive some.

If you insist upon projecting one-liners, why not consider doing so via
email?

>Anyways I'm gonna follow my one advice and save the bandwidth.  (or is
>that channel???)

No, it's disk space.

>               \|||/
>               (o o)
>       -----ooO-(_)-Ooo-----

Sheesh.

Jeff KH2PZ / KH6


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16,500 visitors and still counting. Students, when
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Updated Aug 96
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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:02 1996
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From: "Brian D. McKinley, Ph.D." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
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Dear Sir,

In reply to your recent post to a Amateur Radio News group.  A couple of
notes:

1.  Pyramid games are quite illegal.  Always have been, always will be.
You should be investigated.  Your internet privlidges should be
permanently revoked, and you buns should rot in jail for the next 8-15
years.

THE INTERNET is not some new vehicle for tired old cons.  We wjo use the
internet and don't want to see it regulated worry about "holes" like you.


2.  No one who reads these groups accept those named "illegal activities"
care about your con and wish you would stop wasting space.  If you were
proud of what you were doing, your NAME would appear in the header
instead of some insane name like "MoneyMan"

3.  Scum like you are the lowest form of predator in the world, you and
all the pedophiles of the world should be the victims of WW III.

Sincerely,

Brian D. McKinley, Ph.D.
56 Church Street
Kingston, PA 18704

[e-mail]

MoneyMan wrote:
>
> NO - NOT AT A CASINO - RIGHT HERE ON THE INTERNET!
>
> Taking 5 minutes to read this text may be one of the best decisions you
> ever made.
>
> My name is not important. What is important is what happened to me.


Deleted out of fairness to the readers


> STEP 1. Write your name and address on 5 separate pieces of paper with
> the words "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST". Fold a $1 note or money
> order or bank draft in each of the pieces of paper and mail them to the
> following five addresses:

MORE DRIBBLE

> You are now in the Mail Order Investment Business and you will start
> receiving $1 returns by mail within a week or two. The more news groups
> you post to, the bigger your return will be. You may want to rent a
> Post Office Box to handle the volume of mail you are likely to receive.

So the authorities can't find you????


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Simon Collings)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:12:50 GMT
Subject: *** Announce: Website Face Lift ***
Lines: 31

Dear All

I have just finished a major programme of refurbishment work to my
website which greatly improves the appearance and will help you
navigate round the 120+ pages.

                http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/

Subjects include:

SWL working aids covering: Foreign Language Recognition,
Propagation, Bandplan, Modulation.  MS-Windows help file version
available for download.

Demo of FREE PC-MONITOR DOS software for the FRG8800 and FRG9600

Information and demo of MUFsight MS-Windows propagation predicition
software implementing the MINIMUF algorithm

Information and demo of MS-Windows control software for the Yaesu
FRG-100 and Icom R-7100

Information and demos of leading AOR control software (including
details of forthcoming Data Master software for the AR7030/AR3030)

Loads of links to Broadcast stations, radio dealers, personal pages
and other www resources on the Internet

Feel free to take a look and let me know what you think.

Simon

--
Simon Collings, G4SGI
Radio Communications Consultant
http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/






From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:04 1996
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From: "Benajmin J. Linden" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: *****For Sale*****Kenwood TH79A*****
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I have a Kenwood TH79A for sale.  I have many accessories to go with it
such as a protective cover, microphone, 5 watt battery.  I have used it
very little, the reason I need to sell it is that I need money for College.

I'm asking $450.00 US or Better Offer!

I can be reached by E-Mail at [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:05 1996
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From: Dan Murphy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1,000,000 QSL cards thrown away each year
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:32:17 -0500
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albert corker ([e-mail]) wrote:
: the rsgb have 2,000,000 cards through per year but only 50% are
: collected. what a waste of trees by radio amateurs.
: what can be done to lessen this waste.:
Having read about 6 of the replies to this post, I am somewhat suprized at
the remarks - some tongue in cheek. "Don't QSL", "Use E-Mail", "Drop DXCC (or
other) certs", "Who wants another (fill in your QTH) anyway?"

Don't QSL - Sure, now the other 50% is out of luck. Many got into the hobby
because of the concept of having a snail-mail dialog with others.
Wallpapering the shack is inpressive to my non-ham visitors. (I still have
plenty of ugly wallboard to cover) I agree that most are the simple, minimum,
contest type card - but that is made up for by that infrequent good looking
or different card or the occasional remark on the back.

Use E-Mail - Agree that technology provides a more efficient and consistant
method of confirmation. BUT this is also a hobby. Are we looking to always
let the newest drive out the old? How about stamp collectors trading FAXes?
Or replace the Louvre with a server full of gif files?

Drop DXCC certs - See above The same wallboard needs to be covered.

Who wants another xxx anyway - I hope it is a younger ham that is trying to
get WAS or still considers a 1 land to 6 land QSO as good DX.

THINK POSITIVE - We all talk about the hobby dying away and only supported by
graying OM. Lets encourage the varied aspects of the hobby - 100% return QSL.
The cost can't be that great a factor - abt 35 cents in the US and abt a $1
for DX (the Buro is still the best deal here).
* * * * * Let the flames begin * * * *
73 Dan KA1SZP
--
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Internet: [e-mail] (work)
Internet: [e-mail] (personal)
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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:06 1996
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From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 1,000,000 qsl cards thrown away per year
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 20:54:38 +0100
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In article <4vcp5p$[e-mail]>, "Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr."
<[e-mail]> writes
>After reading all the comments that were placed to your post, I now
>realize why ham radio is rapidly becoming as trashed as CB has.
>The courtesy indicated by each and every reply to your post, proves
>that courtesy is now non-existant in the ham bands.

But you are making the assumption that this ng is Amateur Radio.

It is not - it is an Internet ng with a bias towards Amateur Radio.

Listen to a few *real* QSO's sometime.

Mike

--
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KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Wagner)
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--snip---
>
>The fact that you don't collect the QSL's is no reason not to confirm
>a QSO as long as the other station will at a minimum generate a card
>with the QSO information, and provide a return envelope with the
>necessary postage in the form of IRC's or greenstamps.  All you have
>to do is sign the card to confirrm the QSO.  You simply need to inform
>the other station of your requirements.  Not to much to ask!  IF they
>don't provide the above after you have informed them,....then they
>don't deserve the card.  The QSL is the final courtesy.
>
>        73 de KN0Z  Gary

Not sure I've followed the main idea of this thread or not.

Is the problem that hams participating in exchanging QSL cards are
not following through or that unsolicited QSL cards are unclaimed at
a QSL bureau?

If the first, then _maybe_ there's a problem with manners.  If the second,
then the potential recipients don't seem to be at fault to me.

I've been licensed since '88 and haven't participated in exchanging QSL
cards.  Not through any particular thing other than I was never interested
in doing so.  Didn't buy any cards, didn't ask for any.  Don't recall that
getting a ham license required me to exchange QSL cards, either.

If the subject comes up at all during a QSO (and it doesn't very often), I
just tell the other ham I don't have any cards and don't trade 'em.  Since
we are usually rag chewing and clearly aren't hunting paper it's never
been a problem.

Speaking of paper hunting, all it took to COMPLETELY turn me off to
that concept was a WAS net.

I don't know how to use a QSL bureau and could care less how to.  If
QSL cards to me are gathering mold in one, then they are unsolicited
and hardly my problem.  I have received maybe a dozen QSL cards direct
and have always acknowledged by letter, but I still don't intend to buy
cards I don't want just to respond to cards I didn't ask for but received
anyway.

I also doubt that a QSL card from me would make any realistic difference
on the other end.  North Carolina is not rare dx :-)

If others want to chase paper certificates or exchange QSL cards, I'm
all for it.  Ham radio has room for all kinds of activities.  But seems to
be an unfortunate tendency in this hobby to berate those who don't
share a particular view of what "should be" or participate in someone's
favorite activity.

73 de Jim, N4SVZ





From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:08 1996
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From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1,000,000 qsl cards thrown away per year
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:25:57 -0700
Organization: Intel Corp., Chandler, AZ
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Lawrence wrote:
> ... and not be allowed to use commercially made
> equipment. Now that would reduce the QRM!

Hi Lawrence, Every ham designing his own transmitter would
reduce the QRM? I dunno about that one. :-)

73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Re: 1,000,000 qsl cards thrown away per year
Date: 23 Aug 1996 13:26:37 GMT
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>the rsgb have 2,000,000 cards through per year but only 50% are
>collected. what a waste of trees by radio amateurs.
>what can be done to lessen this waste.

This is partly due to a peculiar feature of the RSGB:
They distribute cards also for non-members to the local
QSL-managers. A ham in the UK who choses not to be
RSGB member can either not bother to collect the QSL cards
or if he does he woukd have to reply by mail.

Returning QSL-cards addressed to non-members to the sender, like
some buros do, is may be more work but clarifies the fate
of the card for the sender.

73, Moritz DL5UH




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From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1,000,000 qsl cards thrown away per year
Date: 23 Aug 1996 22:57:59 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Cecil Moore  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Hi Lawrence, Every ham designing his own transmitter would
>reduce the QRM? I dunno about that one. :-)
>
>73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)

Aaahhh, nice to have you back Cecil.

KE6JPO/AE



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From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1,000,000 qsl cards thrown away per year
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 14:57:26 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jim Wagner) wrote:

>--snip---
>>
>>The fact that you don't collect the QSL's is no reason not to confirm
>>a QSO as long as the other station will at a minimum generate a card
>>with the QSO information, and provide a return envelope with the
>>necessary postage in the form of IRC's or greenstamps.  All you have
>>to do is sign the card to confirrm the QSO.  You simply need to inform
>>the other station of your requirements.  Not to much to ask!  IF they
>>don't provide the above after you have informed them,....then they
>>don't deserve the card.  The QSL is the final courtesy.
>>
>>        73 de KN0Z  Gary

>Not sure I've followed the main idea of this thread or not.

>Is the problem that hams participating in exchanging QSL cards are
>not following through or that unsolicited QSL cards are unclaimed at
>a QSL bureau?

------------SNIP-----------

>If the subject comes up at all during a QSO (and it doesn't very often), I
>just tell the other ham I don't have any cards and don't trade 'em.  Since
>we are usually rag chewing and clearly aren't hunting paper it's never
>been a problem.

------------SNIP-----------

>If others want to chase paper certificates or exchange QSL cards, I'm
>all for it.  Ham radio has room for all kinds of activities.  But seems to
>be an unfortunate tendency in this hobby to berate those who don't
>share a particular view of what "should be" or participate in someone's
>favorite activity.

>73 de Jim, N4SVZ


You apparently didn't read my post very carefully Jim.  I fail to see
where I berated anyone!  I simply pointed out that if you make it
clear to the other station that you don't have QSL's, they should be
prepared to make up a QSL with the pertinate QSO information if for
some reason they need to confirm the QSO.  This should be mailed with
an addressed return envelope and postage.  All you have to do is sign
the QSL to confirm the QSO.  Can't believe this is asking to much.
Like I said, the QSL is the final courtesy.

73  de KN0Z  Gary


Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employe
r.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 100's of Ham Classifieds @ http://www.sarrio.com
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:08:33 -0700
Organization: Raymond Sarrio Co.
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The Raymond Sarrio Company's Ham Radio WWW site has a very large data base
of ham radio classified ads. ALL LESS THAN 30 DAYS OLD! at:

                             http://www.sarrio.com.

This new classified section allows Hams to search for equipement with the
help of our new and unique search engine--no need to scroll through 100's
of listing before you find that special piece of gear. Plus, when you find
the gear your interested in, each listing comes with point-and-click
e-mail access direct to the Ham that listed the item.


For those Hams with gear to sell, take note! It is absolutely FREE to list
your equipment within the Ham Classifieds, and there will be no posting
time delays.Your posting will go on-line, in our classified search
engine,in about 1 hour. All you need do is fill out a simple forms page, and
upon its (point-and-click) submission, your "For Sale" advertisement is
on-line.

I will be purging the classified listing initially about once every month,
but that timeline will shorten as our classified numbers go up. Give it a
try, and let me know how you like it. 73's Ray
--
The Raymond Sarrio Co. a full feature Ham Radio Storefront on tth WWW at http:
//www.csz.com/sarrio in association with Brillar Enterprises http://win-win.co
m/brillar an Extensive Discount CD-Rom Catalog!



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 4 Week licensing courses
Date: 25 Aug 1996 12:49:19 GMT
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Folks, if you want to get your Technician license (or upgrade ot GEneral) in
four weeks, check out the new licensing courses, publications and Morse code
tapes from BDX Radio.  Go to www.bushdog.com for more info - and some cool
pix!  Tell your friends, too!
73, Dave


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:14 1996
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From: Pierre Thomson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: A licensed ham in
Date: 24 Aug 1996 17:17:57 GMT
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KD1YV <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Lance Halle wrote:
> >
> >                                  08/19/96
> >
> >                   THREE ARRESTS IN MESA INTERFERENCE CASE
> >

> Of the 4 listed, only one produced a hit on
> <http://www.ualr.edu/~hamradio/callsign.html>
>
> KC7QPJ             JOHNSON, CHRISTOPHER R                  LIC ISU 24-JUL-19
96
> TECH PLUS          2605 N VAL VISTA DR                     LIC EXP 24-APR-20
06
> DOB 18-MAY-1976    MESA                 AZ  85213          LST UPD 24-JUL-19
96
>
> Hmmm.  Address is different, but name and birth date are the same.  Now this
> guy is in _big trouble_ with the FCC for not sending in his 610 to change hi
s
> address :-)
>

Also note, his ticket was less than a month old.  Probably just got
a rig with "extended transmit range"...

73 de KA2QPG, Pierre

~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'
Pierre Thomson        ARS: KA2QPG         internet: [e-mail]
-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:16 1996
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: A licensed ham in " 3 arrested in Az for interference"?
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:02:28 -0700
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KD1YV wrote:

> > Friday evening August 16th and Saturday morning August 17th Mesa{SNIP}


> > Suspect: Joshua D Cavender
> > Addr: 3443 E. University #133. Mesa
> > DOB: 12/21/79  Race: W   Sex: M    Hgt: 5'9"
> > Wgt: 185  Eye: Bro  Hair: Bro

> > Suspect: Brad E. Shelley
> > Addr: 542 S. 37th St. Mesa
> > DOB: 12/25/79  Race: W   Sex: M    Hgt: 5'9"
> > Wgt: 140  Eye: Bro  Hair: Bro

> > Suspect: Christopher R. Johnson
> > Addr: 2006 N. Higley. Mesa
> > DOB: 05/18/76  Race: W   Sex: M    Hgt: 6'0"
> > Wgt: 200  Eye: Bro  Hair: Bro

> Of the 4 listed, only one produced a hit on
> <http://www.ualr.edu/~hamradio/callsign.html>
>
> KC7QPJ             JOHNSON, CHRISTOPHER R                  LIC ISU 24-JUL-19
96
> TECH PLUS          2605 N VAL VISTA DR                     LIC EXP 24-APR-20
06
> DOB 18-MAY-1976    MESA                 AZ  85213          LST UPD 24-JUL-19
96
>
> Hmmm.  Address is different, but name and birth date are the same.  Now this
> guy is in _big trouble_ with the FCC for not sending in his 610 to change hi
s
> address :-)

> 73 de Jim, KD1YV

Jim,

You just gotta bang on Little Rock a little harder...

KC7JGH             CAVENDER, JOSHUA D                      LIC ISU
2-MAR-1995
TECH               XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX                     LIC EXP
2-MAR-2005
DOB 21-DEC-1979    MESA                 AZ  85204          LST UPD
2-MAR-1995

KC7JQY             SHELLEY, BRAD E                         LIC ISU
23-MAR-1995
TECH               XXXXXXXXXXXXXX                          LIC EXP
23-MAR-2005
DOB 25-DEC-1979    MESA                 AZ  85206          LST UPD
23-MAR-1995

I only saw three suspects listed, not four.  Did you try to get hits on
the arresting officers too?

Regards,

--
Curtis
KD6ELA / GROL / PP-ASEL


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:17 1996
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From: KD1YV <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: A licensed ham in " 3 arrested in Az for interference"?
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:15:14 -0300
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Lance Halle wrote:
>
>                                  08/19/96
>
>                   THREE ARRESTS IN MESA INTERFERENCE CASE
>
> Friday evening August 16th and Saturday morning August 17th Mesa{SNIP}
> Suspect: Joshua D Cavender
> Addr: 3443 E. University #133. Mesa
> DOB: 12/21/79  Race: W   Sex: M    Hgt: 5'9"
> Wgt: 185  Eye: Bro  Hair: Bro
>
> Suspect: Brad E. Shelley
> Addr: 542 S. 37th St. Mesa
> DOB: 12/25/79  Race: W   Sex: M    Hgt: 5'9"
> Wgt: 140  Eye: Bro  Hair: Bro
>
> Suspect: Christopher R. Johnson
> Addr: 2006 N. Higley. Mesa
> DOB: 05/18/76  Race: W   Sex: M    Hgt: 6'0"
> Wgt: 200  Eye: Bro  Hair: Bro
>
> Case # 961710068
> Officer: 10004 Manson, P.V.   07585 Tripp, N.
> Supervisor: 08327 Sgt Kulina Jr.B.

Of the 4 listed, only one produced a hit on
<http://www.ualr.edu/~hamradio/callsign.html>

KC7QPJ             JOHNSON, CHRISTOPHER R                  LIC ISU 24-JUL-1996
TECH PLUS          2605 N VAL VISTA DR                     LIC EXP 24-APR-2006
DOB 18-MAY-1976    MESA                 AZ  85213          LST UPD 24-JUL-1996

Hmmm.  Address is different, but name and birth date are the same.  Now this
guy is in _big trouble_ with the FCC for not sending in his 610 to change his
address :-)

And don't go ragging on the Technicians - this guy learned the code!

73 de Jim, KD1YV


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:21 1996
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From: Jake Brodsky <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Absolute Field Strength Measurements.
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:22:23 -0700
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Cecil Moore wrote:

> What we need to do is come up with an RF sniffer that is easy
> to build and the accuracy of which is guaranteed by design to
> be close enough for semi-accurate measurements. Any takers?
> Such a device should be a best seller. Anybody care to discuss
> the challenge (if any) of such a design?
>

This is indeed the flaw that the FCC never really faced up to when they
wrote their silly new regulations on RF exposure.  There is no easy way
to model many of the antennas we hams use.  And even if there were, that
sort of thing is beyond the technical ability of at least 95% of all
hams.

The test equipment the FCC made references to cost many thousands of
dollars.  I think it probably costs more than most hams have spent
on their entire stations.

Anyhow, what we need is a simple reference.  We can use a simple
receiver, portable antenna, and an attenuator set to act as a
relative FS meter.  We can place exactly one watt in to a reference
(NIST) dipole for VHF measurements and then back off in to the far
field at some given distance for a known field strength.  --But I still don't
see how we can make a
usable FS reference scheme for anything below 50 MHz.

--
Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
Amateur Radio Station AB3A
"Beware of the massive impossible!"


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:24 1996
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From: Jake Brodsky <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Absolute Field Strength Measurements.
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:30:18 -0700
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Cecil Moore wrote:

> What we need to do is come up with an RF sniffer that is easy
> to build and the accuracy of which is guaranteed by design to
> be close enough for semi-accurate measurements. Any takers?
> Such a device should be a best seller. Anybody care to discuss
> the challenge (if any) of such a design?
>

This is indeed the flaw that the FCC never faced up to when they
wrote their silly new regulations on RF exposure.  There is no
easy way to model many of the antennas we hams use.  And even if
there were, that sort of thing is beyond the technical ability of
at least 95% of all hams.

The test equipment the FCC made references to cost many thousands of
dollars.  I think it probably costs more than most hams have spent
on their entire stations.

Anyhow, what we need is a simple absolute reference.  We can use
a portable receiver, antenna, and an attenuator set to act as a
relative FS meter.  For VHF and up we can calibrate it by putting
exactly one watt in to a reference (NIST) dipole for VHF
measurements and then back off to the far field at some given
distance for a relatively accurate field strength.

Below VHF, I don't know how we can make a usable FS reference
scheme for anything below 50 MHz.  The size gets unwieldly.  Anyone
have suggestions?

73,

Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
Amateur Radio Station AB3A
"Beware of the massive impossible!"


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:25 1996
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From: Peter Coffee AC6EN <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AC6XC youngest Extra?
Date: 23 Aug 1996 18:03:06 GMT
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So far as I can determine, AC6XC (who turns 11 next month) is the youngest
current holder of an Extra Class license.  Does anyone have any information
to the contrary?


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:26 1996
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From: MADJID VE2GMI <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: AC6XC youngest Extra?
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:10:27 -0400
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Peter Coffee AC6EN wrote:
>
> So far as I can determine, AC6XC (who turns 11 next month) is the youngest
> current holder of an Extra Class license.  Does anyone have any information
> to the contrary?

Samantha Sanford AA3JS maybe? She was 9 1/2 when she passed her
Extra Class licence (QST April 1995).


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>> PLEASE SEND YOU (sic) E-MAIL ADDRESS WITH CALL SIGN TO--

And this is the method you're using to gather callsign data? Asking us
to EMail it to you?

Tell us why your project has any advantages over, say, the Walnut Creek
QRZ! Callsign Database CD-ROM project - which is a mature product
already on the market.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur Magazines Address
Date: 23 Aug 96 08:12:21 GMT
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I have been looking for two weeks for information on all Amateur
Magazines except QST.
Would you send me email  giving me the email or web internet
address of any of these magazines.  Of course the ddd phone number
is the last resort.

This kind of information is generally on publishers page 2 or 3.

Thanks for your help
John

St. John  of Wood Dale =======================================
John Chasteen     ( Near the center of the Universe...)
1 Thes 5:16          ( Near Chicago, Illinois.. USA )
voice 630-860-2580          [e-mail]
=========================================================

--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MFJ-1278b Software
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 10:50:20 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <01BB8EEA.43F14F40@landerso>


    > Hi friends,
    > I just received a new MFJ-1278b TNC for my birthday!  You can use
    > most if its features with a regular terminal program.  Do you
    > know of any TNC software (shareware) for the 1278 that supports
    > its SSTV and WEFAX modes.  If so, please let me know where it can
    > be found.  Thanks. . .
    >
    > Lane Anderson, AA0RV
    > Columbia, Missouri
    > [e-mail]
    >
    >
Hey Lame,
There are two sources for a lot of shareware like you are looking for.
    1.  The ARRL has a lot of stuff you can down load from their
automated mail server or you can ftp from the same server.
    2.  A lot of the CD's with call sign data bases have tons of
software on them.  I just got ver 7 of QRZ at the hamfest in
Springfield and it has a two page list of zipped up terminal progams.

If your mail program will handle attachments, I will be glad to send
you some of them.  Contact me directly if you do.  I don't think it
would be good to send big files through the list-server.....

73,  Paul
KA6VAN AM & FM   The Voice of Morton Creek, Ar.


--------- End forwarded message ----------


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Walter R Francis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Anonymous poster caught: J. Mackey (was: Re: CB repeaters)
Date: 24 Aug 1996 03:25:25 GMT
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On 22-Aug-96 03:31:13, Jim Kehler articulated:
>John--Mackey--KA0SSF <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>HOORAY!!!  you figured out that it was me!!!!!  Gee, that was REAL TOUGH
>>since I ALWAYS sign my name & call to my messages.

>You are dumb too.

Sounds like old boy John Mackey is the one who's dumb as a brown brick.
Perhaps he's received a couple of good doses of SHF in the head..

--
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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Anonymous poster caught: J. Mackey (was: Re: CB repeaters)
Date: 23 Aug 1996 11:31:15 -0400
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In article <321CBCEC.2359@any__where.com>,
John..Mackey..KA0SSF <no__place@any__where.com> wrote:
>Maybe there was something wrong with the system then.  I always sign
>my name & call & I CERTAINLY wouldn't be afraid of identifying myself

Well, it's not on this message. I suggest you check your system.

>with Burt since EVERYONE hates him.

This is demonstrably wrong. Not everyone hates Burt.

>Actually, it seems like we are making a lot of fluff over nothing.

Indeed. Now you can go back to hiding under the bridge and scaring
children.

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:32 1996
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From: "John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <no__place@any__where.com>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Anonymous poster caught: J. Mackey (was: Re: CB repeaters)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:04:17 -0700
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Jim Kehler wrote:

> You don't talk potty mouth on the repeater and forget to sign your
> call, do you ?

BTW - I always ID on my repeaters.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: 26 Aug 1996 18:21:18 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
 <[e-mail]> wrote:

>In addition, most of the questions are phrased in a manner that have been
>heavily criticized as being prejudicial and biased toward supporting
>eliminating the international HF Morse code requirement.

But after reading the questions one is left wondering how such criticism
would have any merit.  I would say the authors of the survey had been
paying attention, and were able to very suscinctly state the issues.
They allow the respondent to either agree or disagree with statements
such as the following"

"The Morse code is still important because it helps amateurs to
communicate across language barriers".

"The Morse code requirement helps ensure that radio amateurs are
disciplined operators."

"For the forseeable future, it is important to retain the Morse code
requirement in the international regulations."

"On Februrary 14, 1991, the FCC eliminated the Morse code requirement for
a Technician license for operation above 30 MHz.  What is your opinion of
this change?" [rate poor to excellent]

"If Morse code requirements for HF privileges were to be reduced or
eliminated, would you favor adding something to the examinations to take
their place?"

"In your opinion, should Morse code ability be a factor in earning
privileges to use modes other than Morse code?"

The only thing that is obvious from the survey Tony, is that if support
exists for reducing or eliminating the code requirement, the ARRL
needs to know how the membership feels the change should be implimented.
It is most expediant and prudent to deal with these issues in the same
survey.  The ARRL is asking the tough questions here Tony.  They strike
right to the roots of the debate going on here in rrap.  I believe they
are worded fairly - and I think we'll know from the results, how the
respondents feel about the issue.

By the way, it appears that everyone may participate in this survey.  The
only people I know of who have received the "random" survey so far, are CW
operators - truth.  The results in such a case would certainly be slanted.

Perhaps you wouldn't mind citing some examples of how the ARRL survey in
Sept. QST is slanted against code?

73, Jim AC6XG (formerly KE6JPO)


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:34 1996
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From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:03:01 -0700
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Michael P. Deignan wrote:
>
>         In article <4vthl1$[e-mail]>,
>                 Bill Sohl <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Mere use of CW by some percent of hams no longer
> >constitutes a valid reason to mandateall hams on
> >HF must learn that mode.
>
> "The small percentage of hams who construct their own
> transmitting/receiving radios no longer constitutes a
> valid reason to mandate all hams on <insert mode here>
> must be tested in that applicable theory."
>
> Yup. Same logic.

Not quite.  Deignan has conveniently side stepped the issue of mitigation of
interference.  With respect to learning the theory for the various modes of
transmission, regardless of whether the individual home-brews a rig, or buys
the latest from Ten-Tec, Icom or whatever.  It doesn't matter whether one
uses Pactor, SSB, SSTV or CW, the potential for interference is the same.
However, the knowledge of the Morse code in no way contributes to satisfying
the government, who administers the radio frequency spectrum for all users,
that the individual has the requisite knowledge for operating an amateur
station with due regard to the interference potential to other users in the
radio frequency spectrum.  In fact, Sohl's suggestion does indeed continue
the same logic as to the presumption that amateurs are free to pursue their
interests with little interference with the government.  Just as the
government does not require any of use to have digital, phone or SSTV
capabilities, or equip our station to undertake certain investigations, i.e.
EME, meteor scatter, etc., it only follows that the knowledge of Morse code
should be optional regardless of the desired frequency of operation.  Not
only is it logical to abolish Morse code testing, it is also fair to do so.


>
> MD
> --
> --
> --  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
> --
> --  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:35 1996
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From: "Mark P. Fratta" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ART phone number
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:00:56 +0000
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Does anyone have the phone number for Amateur Radio Trader?

Thanks

Mark N3VMR


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:36 1996
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From: [e-mail](Galen m.Barnaby)
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Subject: Re: ART phone number
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In <[e-mail]> "Mark P. Fratta"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Does anyone have the phone number for Amateur Radio Trader?
>
>Thanks
>
>Mark N3VMR
1-800-77-ham-ad...1 800 774-2623


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank C. Morris, N5YZM)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Available 1 x2 & 2 x 1 Extra Class Calls
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Does anyone know where there is a list on the Internet of all of the
available 1 x 2 and 2 x 1 Extra Class Calls?  Your help will be greatly
appreciated.

73's DE Frank, N5YZM...


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:37 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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Frank C. Morris, N5YZM wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where there is a list on the Internet of all of the
> available 1 x 2 and 2 x 1 Extra Class Calls?  Your help will be greatly appr
eciated.
>
> 73's DE Frank, N5YZM...


Frank. Go to URL:

http://walden.mo.net/~aa0yt/misc.htm

There is a list of 1x2, 2x1 etc.

Regards from San Diego
Rod

I transmit, therefore I am, I think!
--

--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Cheek)
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"John..Mackey..KA0SSF" <no__place@any__where.com> wrote:


>Hey Billy Cheek ([e-mail]) that was a good one!!!
>
>But what I find strange is why you would send it to
>"alt.culture.oregon",
>hell I am in IOWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>hahahahahahahaha, I guess I have the last here?
>
>hahahahahahaha

Better have that last word with the right person, then.  I didn't
write that thing about your 'droids......

If it doesn't have my name on it, I didn't write it.  If it has my
name on it, I STILL might not have written it.  Thanks to the forgers.

:-)

-= Bill Cheek =-



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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.culture.oregon
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Bill Cheek wrote:

> >But what I find strange is why you would send it to
> >"alt.culture.oregon",
> >hell I am in IOWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >hahahahahahahaha, I guess I have the last here?
> >
> >hahahahahahaha
>
> Better have that last word with the right person, then.  I didn't
> write that thing about your 'droids......


Well regardless of the author it is wrong & so I still have the last
laugh.



heheheheheheheh


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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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We've added a link to Ham Radio Online to the Frequently Asked Questions
about Cellular, PCS and Human Health issues, prepared by John Moulder, Ph.D.
You may find this information useful in this dicussion.

Some of the previous postings in this thread have contained interesting
information, often based on true stories, but also quoted incorrectly or
interpreted wrong. Unfortunately, I don't have time to respond in detail but
though it important to note that some of the info here is not correct.

Visit us at http://www.hamradio-online.com
------------------------
Ed (KF7VY) and Kim (N7VPL) Mitchell
email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
http://www.hamradio-online.com



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:42 1996
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:56:07 -0700
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Fred McKenzie wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> (Gary Coffman) wrote:
> > There is documented evidence that exposures of greater than 10 mW/cm^2
> > can cause harm. In particular, cataracts or loss of focal flexibility
> > due to RF heating of the lens of the eye, and in some cases cancers.
>
> Gary-
>
> I believe you!  Now, how does that relate to the average Ham?  Although 10
> mW/cm^2 sounds like a miniscule amount, it doesn't sound so bad when you
> convert it to 100 W/M^2 (did I do that right?).
>
> What are "real world" exposure levels that a Ham is likely to encounter in
> each of several areas of the Ham spectrum?  Suppose I have a 100 Watt HF
> transceiver to a dipole, about 20 feet off the ground.  Is anyone at risk
> while I'm on the air?  What if I run a KW?  What if I use a beam that is
> 50 feet up?
>
> How about a typical Two Meter installation?
>
> What I'm leading up to, is that the FCC might accomplish more, if they
> were to perform the math (or make the measurements) for common situations,
> and publish examples where harm might occur.
>
> 73, Fred, K4DII


You're on the right track.  If you read the Report&Order, other services
like paging, cellular, etc, received exepmtions for specific scenarios
(like for a given antenna, antenna height, and power below some level).

Why the ARRL went with the silly "prudent avoidance" (whatever that
means)approach is beyond me.  What exemption did we wind up with?  One,
less than 50 watts (irrespective of freqy, mode, antenna type and height.
This makes no sense.  The ARRL "dropped the ball" again.

S


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From: [e-mail] (Ohrstal Fembrock)
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[e-mail] (Fred McKenzie) wrote:


>I believe you!  Now, how does that relate to the average Ham?  Although 10
>mW/cm^2 sounds like a miniscule amount, it doesn't sound so bad when you
>convert it to 100 W/M^2 (did I do that right?).
>
>What are "real world" exposure levels that a Ham is likely to encounter in
>each of several areas of the Ham spectrum?  Suppose I have a 100 Watt HF
>transceiver to a dipole, about 20 feet off the ground.  Is anyone at risk
>while I'm on the air?  What if I run a KW?  What if I use a beam that is
>50 feet up?
>
>How about a typical Two Meter installation?
>
>What I'm leading up to, is that the FCC might accomplish more, if they
>were to perform the math (or make the measurements) for common situations,
>and publish examples where harm might occur.
>
>73, Fred, K4DII


Now that makes sense Fred.  Will it happen?  Hell no. Because that
makes sense Fred.




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From: [e-mail] (Blake Bowers)
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ny licensed ham can become a rptr owner - there's no virture
>in that - and practically any transceiver can be made into a crude
>rptr. Thus, you hold no special significance in the amateur community; but
>now among the internet community you are scum for not having the courage
>to use your real address to accompany your remarks.

Mackey, KA0SSF
>Owner, 147.435 repeater, Portland, Oregon


Ask John about how he singlehandedly tore up other HAM repeaters in
the portland area.  His post he thought was private was funny!

He was apologizing, and trying to explain!




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Blake Bowers wrote:

> Ask John about how he singlehandedly tore up other HAM repeaters in
> the portland area.  His post he thought was private was funny!
>
> He was apologizing, and trying to explain!


Really Blake?????????

Please, do tell, I have NO IDEA what you are talking about.  How DID I
"singlehandedly" tear up other ham repeaters in the Portland area??

What repeaters where these?
When did I do it?
How did I do it?

I have been involved in catching jammers in Portland.  But
I can not think of any time where I was apologizing &
trying to explain.

I guess I am giving you the "put up or shut" routine, like I did
when you said you had checked me out with a local 2 way shop about
my professional career and you didn't know the name of the shop or
person you talked to.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Re: Did the Family Radio Service die?
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:57:00 GMT
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>>Either way, the FCC is not going to put out
>>money to hire somebody to sit in your neighborhood to make sure that
>>the FRS users obey the law.

Of course not. But the FCC has, for the first time in history, FORCED
co-sharing of a band between licensed, commercial operators and
unlicensed moroms, er, I mean, unlicensed operators. With absolutely NO
RECOURSE for solving intentional interference problems.

BABY MONITORS - yep, continuous transmission FRS baby monitors are what
Tandy has in store for the FRS. Imaging one of these set up within a
half-mile of existing GMRS repeater sites - only 1/2 channel away from
our inputs.


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It would appear that the GMRS repeater would have some problems then.
If a low power FRS xmitter (462...), 1/2 mile from a site and 5MHZ removed
from the input of a repeater (467...) could cause problems then the BPBR cans
of the repeater either aren't tuned correctly, or don't have enough rejection.
There may also be signal leakage from poor connections. Anyway, if the low
power xmitter, 5MHz removed, can cause problems to the repeater, then the
repeater is probably faulty.

>
>BABY MONITORS - yep, continuous transmission FRS baby monitors are what
>Tandy has in store for the FRS. Imaging one of these set up within a
>half-mile of existing GMRS repeater sites - only 1/2 channel away from
>our inputs.

--
  Timothy W. Huster
  http://www.xetron.com/~timh      [e-mail]
  kb8bnk@kc8tw.#cin.oh.usa.na
  "...and Dad! I like Putt-Putt! I got a One on that Hole!" Andrew H. age 4



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From: [e-mail] (Scott Sidener)
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Hi,   This is a strange request.   I am trying to identify someone who
had attended the Charlotte NC hamfest this month who had some motorola
micors for sale with external receivers.  I believe they were from the
D.C. area but I may be wrong.  They Had a big yellow rider truck.

If you may know who this is, I would urgently like to speak to them.

Thanks,

Scott Sidener




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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
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In article <4vnf2n$[e-mail]>,
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I was speaking to Bob, WN3K, manager of HRO Delaware.  He says he's
>short of part-time workers.  The job offers lots of hard work and
>meager pay,


No wonder they're short on part-time help.


--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:55 1996
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From: Alistair Harding <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Ex-Military Radio Equipment
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 07:55:10 -0700
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Greetings All

I am collecting ex military radio equipment. One of the pieces in my
collection is an australian Field Radio Test Set, model OA-FI-AI,
6625-66-100-5448
6625-66-025-5304
I believe it was constructed in 1971

If anyone has any info on this particular item (circuit diagrams,
operating instructions etc) could you please contact me.
Also if you have any old items for sale (preferably working) please let
me know.

I can be contacted via e-mail on:
[e-mail]

or by snail-mail:

Alistair Harding
PO Box 138
Charlestown
NSW  2290
Australia

73's, VK2LLL


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:38:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
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[e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:


>For the first time in history, the FCC has forced licensed, commercial
>operators to share a band with unlicensed, untrained operators. The FRS
>is within 1/2 "channel" from existing repeater inputs...and there's
>absolutely no recourse for intentional interference from the new
>service.

If the lowered deviation levels don't mean anything to you, then make
sure your CTCSS unit on the repeater is functioning properly. I'm sure
this is why most repeaters have them, to "reduce interference".


"Don't sweat the petty things, pet the sweaty things.." Jake (Bear)

>[e-mail]
>... Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.
>---
> * TLX v4.00 *

Rob Neff



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From: [e-mail] (Glenn E. Little)
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In article <n9jig-1508962030430001@0.0.0.0>, [e-mail] (Rich Carlson)
says:
>
>Does anyone have the text of this ruling?  I am trying to get my townhouse
>association to allow a DBS dish and a discone for scanning on my roof, and
>this may help push me over the edge as it were...
>
>--
>Rich Carlson, N9JIG ([e-mail])
>
>ScannerMaster Illinois Communications Guide [phone]
>
>CARMA (Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association) BBS [phone]
>PO Box 2681, Glenview IL 60025    SASE for sample newsletter.


It is available at www.fcc.gov.  It is longgggg.

This is where I found it after being alerted by the FCC Daily Digest.

Also on the Daily Digest.  Recently Centel Cellular was fined $3,000,000.00
for tower violations.  Seems that they do not understand Air Safety Zones.
A tower 187 feet high, 2.8 miles from runway, no lights!  Did not reply
to FCC for site data.  Filed with FAA 5 months after tower operational
for permission to erect tower. What a list of problems.  Fine reduced to
$2,000,000.00.  After 6 zeros, what does it matter the number in front?

73
Glenn Little
WB4UIV


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:00 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
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>   [e-mail] (Glenn E. Little) writes:
Recently Centel Cellular was fined $3,000,000.00
 Fine reduced to
>  $2,000,000.00.  After 6 zeros, what does it matter the number in front?
>

only of your the one paying the bill
]
steve


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Yes, that is correct, and it does not help me.  I have decided to wait
until we move to a regular house, and get whatever the technology is then.

Thanks to all who assisted!



In article <4vnlch$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Don Sterner) wrote:

** In article <n9jig-1508962030430001@0.0.0.0>, Rich Carlson said...
** >
** >Does anyone have the text of this ruling?  I am trying to get my townhouse
** >association to allow a DBS dish and a discone for scanning on my roof, and
** >this may help push me over the edge as it were...
** >
**
** It looks like none of the other responders have mentioned that the
** ruling does NOT apply to owners of townhomes/condiminiums where the
** roof and surrounding real estate is not the sole property of the
** owner, but is shared by the group.
**
** If this is the case where you live, the ruling will not help you.
** --
** [e-mail]

--
Rich Carlson, N9JIG ([e-mail])

ScannerMaster Illinois Communications Guide [phone]

CARMA (Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association) BBS [phone]
PO Box 2681, Glenview IL 60025    SASE for sample newsletter.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
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"Brian E. Oakley" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hey Rob, go talk to W5RWW, he can teach you a little bit. 73. Brian.

Teach me what? What in my post are you reffering to?
But regardless, I am sure there is a lot I can learn from a ton of
Amateurs, thats why I love this hobby/service so much.
Always something you don't know, and a person willing to tell you
about it.

See ya

Rob Neff (N7ORY)



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Gary Sanders wrote:
>
> Jake Brodsky wrote:
> >
> > I'm just curious Gary, did you use a speaker mike all the time?  And
> > did you transmit with the radio on your belt?
> >
> Yes, I used a speaker mike with both radios, and transmitted with the
> radios on my belt. Usually, the radio was sitting either at the small
> of my back or pretty far back on my right hip (due to other junk that
> I had to carry on my belt at the same time!).
>
> Gary

Well, I can't say that I agree with your assumptions Gary, but I can
understand why you feel that way.  Take care...

73,

Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
Amateur Radio Station AB3A
"Beware of the massive impossible!"


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ohrstal Fembrock)
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:29:31 GMT
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Fred <[e-mail]> wrote:


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>>
>A terribly misdirected group.  May be so may not be so.  Do you have any
>facts to show that rf is harmless.

It is almost impossible to prove a negative.  Please show me a
definitive study with a properly established scientific basis that
will show that RF is harmful.  After all, it is your theory.

This is the same science that stated that bran was wonderful, only to
state a few short months later that it was not.  The same science that
stated that ALAR would kill everyone in the free world, only to state
later that the basis was flawed.  This is the same science that said
the cranberries would cause cancer in huge numbers of people, only to
be shown to be false.

Chocolate is SIMILAR to marijuana?  The center for science? and
disease control is headed by a bunch of people who at best are self
serving boobs, concerned only about perpetuating their high paying
jobs.

I don't KNOW if RF is harmful or not but virtually everything in the
human experience is harmful, or at least potentially harmful.  Cars
kill thousands every year but we raised the speed limit to 75 knowing
that there will be an incremental increase in the highway death toll.

The prez has declared that tobacco (cigarettes) are a nicotine
delivery system while VERY recently we de-drugged Nicorette gum.  My
mother has smoked for over 70 years and is in better shape than most
60 year olds I know.  I do not condone smoking but I believe that the
benefits to society COULD outweigh the negatives (agreed not likely
but every bit as speculative as your hypothesis)  BTW, could you name
any ... ANY person who has been shown to have died from second hand
smoke??  Why has the average lifespan increased in the last 200 years?

Point of speculation....  In 23 years scientists will determine that a
pack of cigarettes a day will decrease your chances to contract
PMS/Prostate trouble!

Every state (to my knowledge) has some sort of law regulating the sale
of cigarettes to minors so enacting new laws is just plain stupid
until we try to enforce the current laws.

Get a clue folks, the government is rapidly taking ALL of yur
Constitutional Rights away.  Read the Federalist Papers to understand
that the founding fathers were aware of this possibility and
considered it to be the biggest potential problem the country would
face.

>                                 Have you ever been in the near field
>of a broadcast antenna at 1KW even.  I have, not the facts or figures,
>but by personal experiance know that the inner ears heats up at a
>frequency of 1450 Khz and 1000 watts if you are there for any significant
>period of time (ie. 30 minutes or so)  Granted, amateur transmissions are
>usually short, but would you like a 4 El beam being fed with 1.5Kw pep rf
>pointed at your house????   I think not if it were your neighbors
>antenna. Do not poo poo the harm that non-ionizing radiation may or may
>not do.  It is best to treat it with a little respect and use good
>engineering practice at all times.  Hey, a well meaning, but misdirected
>group got a law passed because no one else has been able to prove them
>wrong with hard facts and figures.  I for one, after spending a few years
>in the position of a chief broadcast engineer, treat an radiation,
>non-ionizing or otherwise with respect.  remember your microwave oven
>operates in the middle of on ham band a about 1.2 gigahertz or so.  And
>it cooks things very swiftly.  Agreed it is not 3.9 Khz or 7.2, but it
>may be that the only differance is the power level and the exposer time??
>who know for sure. I don't and have met few rf engineers that are sure.
>Who wants to be the test dummy for this one fellows.  Do I hear any takers?





From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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Ohrstal Fembrock ([e-mail]) wrote:

: This is the same science that stated that bran was wonderful, only to
: state a few short months later that it was not.

It was only OAT bran that was wonderful, not all kinds of bran.

: Chocolate is SIMILAR to marijuana?

Yeah, but you'd have to eat 50 pounds of chocolate to get the kick of a
single reefer.

: The prez has declared that tobacco (cigarettes) are a nicotine
: delivery system while VERY recently we de-drugged Nicorette gum.

Not!  Nicorette was not de-drugged, it was taken off of prescription
status but is still very much regulated by the FDA, as are all
over-the-counter medications.


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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>Doctors used to spray X-rays around with great abandon too, until they
>learned better. Supposedly qualified dermatologists used a series of
>X-ray treatments to treat acne in teenagers only 25 years ago. Many of
>those people are now fighting recurring bouts of skin cancer. (I have
>the E ticket on that one.) Just because doctors consider it routine
>does *not* mean it is safe or prudent.

And are they restricted by the FCC and the EPA as to exposure times?
Doubt it. With as closely watched as the medical field is, I'm sure
that if there was any signifigance to this, they would have been the
first to make the change.

>>Compliance in the face of stupidity is cowardice.

>Bet you think playing Russian roulette is macho stuff too.
>Daddy taught me to keep the barrel of the pistol pointed
>*away* from my head. If you think that's cowardice, then
>let me point it at yours.

If the feds told you that jumping off a high bridge didn't hurt when
you hit the ground, would you jump Gary? I would hate to speculate.

Bullets and radios are very different critters, as I am sure you are
aware. This analogy is irrelevant. In RR, you know that one of the
chambers has a bullet in it, and, eventualy one WILL lose the game.
With radios Gary, there are no bullets, no blunt force trauma, no
observable means of harm what-so-ever at amateur levels, other than
possible rf burns. So, what part of prove it do you not understand?

How about a real study, huh? Get 100 volunteers from the amateur
community to be part of a LIFE LONG study. Lets use LIVE people this
time and see the effects throughout their lives, and see if there is
any direct relation between RF and illness.  THEN, lets look at the
data and see if things need to be changed. Remember that dead people
are easy to study, but as we are all aware, they can't tell us much.

Rob Neff (N7ORY)



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From: Jason Wolfson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: For Sale: IC-R70, JRC NRD-525 recievers
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:17:45 -0700
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I have a barely used Icom IC-R70 reciever and a barely used
JRC NRD-525 reciever I'd like to sell.

also a Advanced Electronic Applications, Inc. Model PK-232
PAKRATT232, These were used to recieve satalite pictures
to a PC. Not used anymore and I need to unload them.

email me at [e-mail]

thanks.....


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:09 1996
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From: DEE ALMQUIST <[e-mail]>
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HELLO ALL FROM PATTY, KA4EKK & DEE, W4PNT OF SOUND IN MIND IN VIRGINIA.

This is a hobby business we are enjoying. Our objective is to provide
service (from our well equipped home shop) and provide a source of
TRANSMITTER TUBES (and others) and vintage parts. We specialize on
Collins, Drake (mostly "C" & "B" line), and Johnson. We canabolize
equipment that isnt worth our time to restore and we will list these
parts available to you when this happens.

Please visit our webb site at: http://home.rica.net/soundnmind.

Feel free to call us if you have need for any of the above.

Thanks

Dee, W4PNT

[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Brian Mileshosky, N5ZGT)
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Subject: Re: FS: All Ham Bands, Reply to Republican Congress
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[e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ wrote:

>>  >Regan
>>
>>  Reagan: Our nuclear enemy, the Soviet Union, melted to nothing under
>>  his administration. As governor, he turned bankrupt California into
>>  the most prosperous of all states.

>melted due to bankrupcy.  Raygun overspent the ruskies and now look what we h
ave..any
>amazing deficit and we now are the largest borrower of $$$$ in the world.

  I may be wrong, but didn't this thing with Russia begin when LBJ (A
_democrat_) was in office?
>
>>  >Gingrich, Buchanon, Limbaugh
>
>>  We need 'em to keep the liberals in check.

>DRAFT DODGERS each and everyone...don't forget the newt salamader and his pet
 clown
>Phi Grimm

  Don't forget ol' Billy since you are bringing up draft dodging... As
far as keeping the 3 listed above, I agree.
  Save the flames...
Best of 73,
Brian, N5ZGT


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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:13 1996
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ICOM 2GAT for sale. switchable 1 or 7.5 watt out.
Rx 130-170   Memory for 20 + call channel.
Tx 140-150Mhz
Extra battery, case, manual.
Mint condition.  $150
Don Knowlton    WB2YHM
[phone]     [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Kay Fule)
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I'm selling my Icom Z-1A with detachable face plate. IT's brand new.
I've only used it for 1 month. It is a true duel band, with cross
duplex. I've only used it in the car. It has a special tone squelch
and everything. This one of the best I've ever used. I bought it for
$450, and am willing to sell it for $350 FIRM.



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:15 1996
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I have a Toshiba T-1000 Laptop for Sale. It is a 8088 W/1 Mb. onboard.
Also has a 20 Mb. Hd & a 1.44 Mb Floppy Drive. DOS 3.3 loaded in rom
and has 1 serial & 1 parallel port. Comes with 110V adapter. and the
battery is less than 6 months old. Price is $225+Shipping or will trade
for computer equipment, such as motherboard, cpu, video card, memory...
if interested e-mail address is [e-mail]


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For sale Motorola Spectera radio for sale 900Mhz Make offer.


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FS: MOTOROLA SPECTRA 900 TRUNKING RADIO

MD#  D37KGA5JB7CK        $ 450 OBO

MD#  D37KGA5JB5DK        $ 400 OBO


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For Sale; Dual Channel 50mhz Tektronix 453 scope.  This scope has
a delay time multiplier, and extends the actual frequency meas. to
over 110mhz (actual measurments).  Has original manual, and a 10x
probe.  No dents, scrathes, and all funtions work.  No bulbs or
LED's burnt out.

Price: $650.00
Contact Tom (AB5ZJ) at [e-mail]   or leave reply here


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FS:NEW YAESU BATTERYS & SPEAKER MIC

FNB-31  $ 40 +SHIP
FNB-38  $ 50 +SHIP
FNB-40  $ 35 +SHIP
FNB-41  $ 40 +SHIP


NEW YAESU SPEAKER MIC

MH-12    $ 20 + SHIP


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FS:NEW YAESU BATTERYS & SPEAKER MIC

FNB-31  $ 40 +SHIP
FNB-38  $ 50 +SHIP
FNB-40  $ 35 +SHIP
FNB-41  $ 40 +SHIP


NEW YAESU SPEAKER MIC

MH-12    $ 20 + SHIP


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FS:NEW YAESU BATTERYS & SPEAKER MIC

FNB-31  $ 40 +SHIP
FNB-38  $ 50 +SHIP
FNB-40  $ 35 +SHIP
FNB-41  $ 40 +SHIP


NEW YAESU SPEAKER MIC

MH-12    $ 20 + SHIP


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:20 1996
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Bryan Rogers ([e-mail]) wrote:
: FCC has announced that gate 2 of the vanity callsign
: system will open  September  23, 1996.

I pity the mail carrier who gets assigned to that route!

73 =paul= wb8zjl



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Have I hit on a sore point?

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AA0NN sent me a message that he was deleting my message because he did
not like the subject title about what makes a loser. Why are some SYSOPS
Tin Gods? They are little wimpy men that are nothing in their everyday
life that become Tin Gods here on packet.

Was the Wizard of Oz a ham radio SYSOP?

Of course there are SYSOPs that have self confidence and allow points of
view they do not agree with

It appears Mr. Wolfe also is in violation of FCC rules as his address
does not correspond with where he is SYSOPing.

AA0NN              WOLFE, JOHN R                           LIC ISU  4-MAY-1995
EXTRA              6402 HAMPTON DR                         LIC EXP 22-MAR-2004
DOB 31-JUL-1962    ANCHORAGE            AK  99504          LST UPD  4-MAY-1995

Burt
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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
Subject: Re: HELP w/ SSB Antenna
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Bill Nelson ([e-mail]) wrote:

: There is no requirement that antennas be horizontally polarized, for SSB
: or any other mode.
:
: The advantage of horizontal polarization is that the majority of manmade
: noise is vertically polarized, so the added isolation helps. However, when
: it comes to DX, the polarization can change completely - so it is a pot
: shot.

All of the VHF  contesters, and small signal people I know use
horizontal polarization.

The 2m ssb calling frequency is 144.2, with most activity centered
around it. Since almost all 2m ssb signals are ground wave, you need to
keep the antennas horizontaly polarized.  While VHF singnals bend
around the earth, and some are carried in "ducts" in the troposhere,
they don't bounce. Since they don't bounce, they stay horizontaly
polarized.

While there may be a technical reason for it, I expect the best reason
for stacking beams verticaly is cost. It is much easier and cheaper to
place one over the other instead of side by side, needing a LONG cross-bar.

73,

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson  (N3OWJ)
President, Mendelson Computer Consulting, Inc.
Voice [phone]  Fax [phone] Email: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:27 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: How to tell if you are a loser
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Burt Fisher" writes:

> Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
>
> > A teacher who believes that it is THREE times as bad to assault an
> > adult as it is to assault a child.
>
> I do not believe that. Nothing is worse than a child molester.

Then check your maths.  Your own loser scoring belies your protest.

> > Someone who replies to Burt Fisher :-(
>
> Like you?

You're worse than a loser, Burt, you're a humorless loser.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Burt Fisher" writes:

> If you answer yes to ANY of the following questions you are a loser:
>
> 1. You hit your spouse.

> If you answer YES to three of the following you are a loser:
>
> 5. You hit your children.

> Please feel free to add your own.

A teacher who believes that it is THREE times as bad to assault an
adult as it is to assault a child.

Someone who claims to despise amateur radio and its users but who can
not refrain from endless graffiti-like postings in their newsgroups.

Someone who replies to Burt Fisher :-(

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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Anthony R. Gold wrote:


> A teacher who believes that it is THREE times as bad to assault an
> adult as it is to assault a child.

I do not believe that. Nothing is worse than a child molester.



> Someone who claims to despise amateur radio and its users but who can
> not refrain from endless graffiti-like postings in their newsgroups.

I like to play with hams.


> Someone who replies to Burt Fisher :-(

Like you?

#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)              |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt|
#================#===================================================#
|                           [e-mail]                         |
#====================================================================#
You cannot build a reputation on what you are going to do.

Henry Ford


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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: How to tell if you are a loser
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Murray Neece wrote:
>
> How did Ham radio get in here?

The question ought to be is why isn't ham radio
first on the list.
#================#===================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics   |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)              |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt|
#================#===================================================#
|                           [e-mail]                         |
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You cannot build a reputation on what you are going to do.

Henry Ford


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Terry)
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Anthony R. Gold wrote:


>> A teacher who believes that it is THREE times as bad to assault an
>> adult as it is to assault a child.

>I do not believe that. Nothing is worse than a child molester.


>
>> Someone who claims to despise amateur radio and its users but who can
>> not refrain from endless graffiti-like postings in their newsgroups.

>I like to play with hams.

>
>> Someone who replies to Burt Fisher :-(

>Like you?

Tony:
See?  You were replying to everyone and St. Burt The Big CLULESS
Twinkie took it as you were replying TO *him*.  St. Burt The Big
CLULESS Twinkie really believes that the world revolves around *him*.

I may reply ABOUT *him*, but I never reply TO *him*.

Terry




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Russ)
Subject: Re: HTG (Some PBBS SYSOPS)
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

:>It appears Mr. Wolfe also is in violation of FCC rules as his address
:>does not correspond with where he is SYSOPing.

:>AA0NN              WOLFE, JOHN R                           LIC ISU  4-MAY-19
95
:>EXTRA              6402 HAMPTON DR                         LIC EXP 22-MAR-20
04
:>DOB 31-JUL-1962    ANCHORAGE            AK  99504          LST UPD  4-MAY-19
95

:>Burt

Since you make it a point of going, shall we say, "Toe to Toe",
"Keyboard to Keyboard" [or whatever you would call it] with many Hams
Burt, seems that you already know that it is only required that the
FCC be able to contact you should they wish. I don't have the book in
front of me but it seems  if a person has changed addresses but left a
forwarding address they can be reached through, this meets the
criteria as I believe the USPS will forward any government business to

it.

And if I'm not mistaken, you can find out if he has left a forwarding
address on file at the old postal address and it only costs 1 dollar.
But they can only give you the unexpired address. Surely there are a
few USPS people out there that can confirm it in this group for you if
you really would like to know. After you have the info and confirm
that there was no forwarding address left then your statement would be
correct, would it not?


de N5EJS
Russ in LA.




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:34 1996
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Subject: ICOM 740 problems / manuals
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I have recently acquired an IC740 which has no mic gain, and has some
output when I engage the compressor.  The mic is good as it was tried
on another ICOM "worked fine".  Don't need it much as I work CW
when I do operate "mostly" .

Would like to get some manuals operator and technical manual.
Copies would be fine.

please respond here or by e-mail   [e-mail]


Tnx

K5FQ
Gene





From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William Coyle)
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For sale:

Icom IC-2000 2 meter mobile.  50 watt output.  Only a few months old and
in excelent condition.  Recieves air band and has DTMF mic.  With box,
manual, screws, wires, ect.

Best offer.
E-mail at:
[e-mail]
N3OGH


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:36 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Inter-Agency Comm. lacking
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 01:26:01 -0500
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John Moran <[e-mail]> writes:

>Phoenix area that seemed to show the lack of communication or difficulty
>of coordination amoung different agencies:

Well, John, why don't you just sit down, and like a civic-minded citizen
figure out how they could do it better. After you write a formal paper and
present it to them they should be very grateful.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (m. mattson)
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se for an interagency frequency where all agencies
>involved in a chase or crime spree that goes across jurisdictions can be
>in instant contact with each other and easily share information....IN
>most cases, a dispatcher from agency A will call Agency B..Sometimes, a
>helicopter will come up on the frequency used by the other agency.

>JOHN
Here in Wisconsin there are frequencies in place that are common
state-wide for fire, EMS, and law enforcement.

As jurisdictions upgrade, they will usually purchase radios capable of
handleing all of these common frequencies.  The additional cost of 48
channels vs 16 on a hand-held is nominal.  Most jurisdictions in Wi
are still on VHF or UHF, and the mutual aid freqs are as well.

Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception will be different.




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Al Copp)
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Subject: kenwood 2 meter allmodes (AL COPP)
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Hello to the group,
I am in the market for a 2 meter allmode, and have been considering a kenwood
TS700SP or the TS711. Anyone out there familiar with these units, pros and con
s
I plan to look for one at the Shelby Hamfest.
Please email me at this address or [e-mail].
Thanks,
AL COPP
KF4GKV




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:39 1996
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From: "Jim Gerke, KC5OA" <[e-mail]>
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My guess is that you have a relay, related to that frequency range, that
is not switching properly. I've had no problems with mine but have been
told by others that when a relay goes bad, the tuner won't stop hunting.

Good Luck.

73, Jim, KC5OA


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From: [e-mail] (Roger)
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Subject: Re: LCD display
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[e-mail] (Lester Wahl) wrote:

>  I have a Uniden scanner with an LCD display.  If the unit is
>mounted under the dashboard, the display can be read easily.
>But if the scanner is mounted overhead (as in my van), the
>display is impossible to read.  The LCD digits seem to fade out
>when the radio is above the observer.  (I'm making an assumption
>that the manufacturer intended under-the-dash mounting.)
>  Is there an easy fix for this?

Hi,
as far as LCD modules go, they require a contrast control to adjust
for the angle of view. I can't be much help for your scanner other
than point you in this direction. Inside the unit will either be a VR
(Variable Risistor) or a fixed resistor(Probably surface mount) that
sets the contrast. You could retrofit a Potentiometer for external
contrast control or change the fixed setting. If you could get a
sqematic of the radio you should be able to determine the components.

Good Luck


<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Roger Eastman             [e-mail]
http://www.indirect.com/www/sxi/rogers.htm
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>



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From: [e-mail] (Lester Wahl)
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Subject: LCD display
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  I have a Uniden scanner with an LCD display.  If the unit is
mounted under the dashboard, the display can be read easily.
But if the scanner is mounted overhead (as in my van), the
display is impossible to read.  The LCD digits seem to fade out
when the radio is above the observer.  (I'm making an assumption
that the manufacturer intended under-the-dash mounting.)
  Is there an easy fix for this?


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Subject: Re: LEARN CODE FAST
Date: 26 Aug 1996 06:30:23 GMT
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Jerry AERO ([e-mail]) wrote:
: We have developed a method of teaching beginning Morse Code in less than a
: half hour, guaranteed!

: At the request of our readers we have made a video which teaches the code
: by using an association method. We have never advertised this tape, but we
: have sold hundreds by word of mouth. Said one user: We were amazed and
: impressed with ourselves that we suddenly knew the whole More Code in less
: than an hour!"

This may be ok, if the association method is to associate the letter to
the sound.  If it associates to a picture, shape or item, then it will
cause problems later - as double translation will be required.

: The tape is only $20, plus $3 postage. It is NOT for increasing speed,
: only for learning beginning code.

I hope it uses the Farnsworth method, at about 15 wpm.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:42 1996
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From: William Vaughn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: License required for CB radio repair
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:16:27 -0700
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> Yep... you're right Jack.  The GROL is the ticket for aviation and marine re
pair.
> GMDSS (satellite) further requires the GMDSS Maintainer endorsement to repai
r.
> --
>
> Best regards, Stan

The GMDSS license is required to maintain equipment. GMDSS is an acronym
for Global Maritime Distress & Ship safety. The maintenance of this
equipment requires the knowledge to maintain different communication
systems. More information can be found at:
http://www.navcen.uscg.mil/marcomms/gmdss/gmdss.htm
Its fascinating, check it out. It's not just for satellites anymore:)

Bill, KB7MRF


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:43 1996
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From: Stan Vandiver <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: License required for CB radio repair
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:10:54 -0700
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William Vaughn wrote:
>
> > Yep... you're right Jack.  The GROL is the ticket for aviation and marine
repair.
> > GMDSS (satellite) further requires the GMDSS Maintainer endorsement to rep
air.
> > --
> >
> > Best regards, Stan
>
> The GMDSS license is required to maintain equipment. GMDSS is an acronym
> for Global Maritime Distress & Ship safety. The maintenance of this
> equipment requires the knowledge to maintain different communication
> systems. More information can be found at:
> http://www.navcen.uscg.mil/marcomms/gmdss/gmdss.htm
> Its fascinating, check it out. It's not just for satellites anymore:)
>
> Bill, KB7MRF

The GROL is the license to operate/repair HF/VHF/UHF equipment on ships and ai
rcraft.
The GMDSS license (not endorsement as I stated previously) has 2 types: one fo
r
operator and one for maintainer; they are separate licenses.  The books I stud
ied for
GROL said that GMDSS was a satellite-based system as I recall.  Of course, sat
ellite
equipment still needs receivers, transmitters, and antennas.  Satellites are a
lso
capable of communicating using voice and data.  I don't know the details of th
e GMDSS
systems however; I only took the GROL tests, Elements 1 and 3.

More information about *all* commercial licenses can be found at:
http://www.fcc.gov/wtb/colems.html
--

Best regards, Stan
ax.25: KD9BE @ KD9BE.#NWIN.IN
www: [e-mail]/~kd9be/


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Subject: Re: License required for CB radio repair
Date: 22 Aug 1996 07:33:32 GMT
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Are there any books on GMDSS. I tried to find some before taking my
test, but it seems, like everything else, all you need to do is learn
the test.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:45 1996
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From: [e-mail](Galen m.Barnaby)
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Subject: Re: License required for CB radio repair
Date: 22 Aug 1996 16:16:51 GMT
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From National Radio Examiners Commercial Radio Examiner's Manual rev
jul 96.

The General Radiotelephone Operator License (GROL) is required to
adjust, maintain or internally repair transmitters in aviation,
maritime and international fixed public radio services. It is also
required by most AM/FM/TV brodcast licensees. In addition to all of the
operating authority of the MROL, it also permits operation of maritime
land or ship radio stations operating with more than 1,500 watts PEP
and voluntarily equipped ship or aeronautical stations with more than
1000 watts PEP.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:46 1996
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From: Pat Humby <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Lightning Protection
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:13:46 GMT
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In article: <[e-mail]>  Harry Clinton <ni4p1@hcc-u
ky.campus.mci.net>
writes:
> Path:
g6aus.demon.co.uk!news.demon.co.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!netcom.net.uk
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erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.co
m!news.campus.mci.
net!not-for-mail
> From: Harry Clinton <[e-mail]>
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Lightning Protection
> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 12:26:02 -0500
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> Lightning protection info for towers, masts...email postal address you
> would like info sent.
>
>
-- Please send info E-mail address below,thanks in anticipation.

Regards  Pat

[e-mail]
ax25  G6AUS @ GB7PMB

Enjoy the fruits of life while you can!



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Alexander)
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Subject: Looking for a mailorder outfit to purchase a handheld scanner
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:23:56 -0400
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Looking for a good mailorder firm to purchase a handheld scanner from:

I am interested in the following units:


    ICOM R1
    AOR 8000

Please email feedback to [e-mail]

--
[e-mail]
--

Douglas Alexander
Florida Power & Light
Turkey Point Nuclear Plant
Nuclear Operations Department

--
Pardon me,
I am from the 24th century,
and I'm heading back as soon as
Doc Brown fixes the Flux Capacitor!


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jan van Lienden)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for Ten-Tec dealer
Date: 23 Aug 96 10:42:52 GMT
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Hello,
I am looking for a Ten Tec dealer in or near The Netherlands (Holland)
and if somebady has the information available, I am also interested
in their e-mail address and/or homepage.

73
Jan van Lienden PE1CID


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:49 1996
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From: "Chris M. Bridges" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Ten-Tec dealer
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:25:15 -0400
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To: Jan van Lienden <[e-mail]>

Jan van Lienden wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am looking for a Ten Tec dealer in or near The Netherlands (Holland)
> and if somebady has the information available, I am also interested
> in their e-mail address and/or homepage.
>
> 73
> Jan van Lienden PE1CID
To the best of my knowledge TEN-TEC no longer has any retailers, they
sell factory direct. They do have a Web page though. I have owned over
12 Ten Tec rigs and wish I kept them all. They are not quite as fancy as
the Jap rigs, But are a TRUE HAM RADIO. A rig the average ham can
understand, and thats what its all about!
http://mvangel.com/ten-tec/index~1.htm
--
Chris M. Bridges
>>>>>N4FAN>>>>>>
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Abraham Stavsky)
Subject: Los Angeles-area radio clubs??
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Any L.A.-area radio clubs around for 2-meter people, esp. with
213 autopatch facilities???
Thanks
KE6OCM
--


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From: Malcolm Fairleigh <[e-mail]>
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Subject: losers
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 09:27:51 +1100
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This is sasting space on the newsgroup and seems to be the ramblings of a mind
less twit with tunell vision.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:53 1996
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From: Ken Harrison <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mini-DXpedition - The ROCK
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:06:26 -0700
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Another reminder!!  THIS SUNDAY!
Times are approximate:  9:30AM til 5:30PM PDT

Look for and work us!!

---

The Sonoma County Radio Amateurs will be conducting a mini-DXpedition to
Alcatraz Island in the San Francisco Bay on August 25th.  It will be a one
day event and we plan on working 40/20/15 meters SSB and/or CW and 2
meters FM and SSB and/or CW and possibly 70 cm. SSB and/or CW.

The club callsing of W6LFJ will be used.  Actual frequencies we are
planning to run are (+/-):

40m     7.120 MHz       CW
20m     14.075 MHz      CW
15m     21.140 MHz      CW
 6m        (?)          CW(?)
 2m     Std. call       CW
70cm    Std. call       CW

40m     7.265 MHz       SSB
20m     14.270 MHz      SSB
15m     21.400 MHz      SSB
 6m        (?)          SSB(?)
 2m     Std. call       SSB
70cm    Std. call       SSB
 2m     146.520 MHz     FM Simplex

We will be offering a special QSL commemorating the event.  We want to
contact YOU!  Spread the word!

To find out more you can contact Larry Gustafson, KD6VUM at
[e-mail] or you can head your browser to:

http://cds1.net/scra/

and click on the Mini-DXpedition announcement.

73,
Ken

--
_____________________________________________________________
Ken Harrison  --  [e-mail]  -- Amateur Radio:  N6MHG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Visit the Sonoma County Radio Amateurs Web Pages!
           New Address!!  http://cds1.net/scra/
                "Home of Hank's Swap Shop!"


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:54 1996
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From: Bob Sull <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Mobile Installation in Dodge Spirit
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 00:46:31 -0700
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Bob Fritz wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >Does any one know how to route a 12 volt cable through the firewall
> >of a 1993 Dodge Spirit.  I currently have my FT-8000 wired to the
> >fusebox and would like to wire it directly to the battery.
> >
> >Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> >Jim..  WA5VPW..
> >
> I routed cables in my 84 Toyota Landcruiser and 1995 Dodge Ram. First, I use
d
> 12 gauge stranded wire for the leads. Next I looked on the firewall for a
> rubber grommet or gasket that had a cable (mechanical  or electrical). Find
> one nearest the point of hook up on the interior and also on the side of the
> battery. Then take a stiff wire (yes, the ubiquitous coat hanger will work)
> tape the ends of the wires to it and poke it through the grommet or gasket
> from the engine side - usually the easiest. Find the end of the stiff wire
> and pull through into the passenger area - make sure you have enough wire to
> work with and get to your connection point. You may want to use cable ties o
r
> tape to keep the wire contained under the dash. If you are really paranoid,
> you can put tape over the wires where they go through the firewall to reduce
> the possibility of abrasion.
>
> Carefully and neatly route the wires to the battery area. Make sure you avoi
d
> moving parts, hood closure, etc. I put fuses in both wires as I have seen
> recommended. Make the appropriate battery connections. I used crimp-on
> connectors and fastened them to the bolts on the battery cables. Again, use
> cable ties or tape to keep the cable secured.
>
>You neglected to mention a very important part of this installation.  FUSES!
 You should put fuses in both lines going to the battery.  Yes, both positive
and negative.

Fuse holders can be bought at Auto parts stores and/or hamfests.

I did it this way:   ----|
                     |   |-----------|
Battery +   ---------|   |           |----------------

                     |   |-----------|
                     ----|

                                 |----
                     |-----------|   |
Battery -   ---------|           |   |----------------
                     |-----------|   |
                                 |----


Note the reversed fuse holders.  If they are installed this way, the risk of c
onnecting
the polarities is greatly reduced.

(Reference QST a couple years ago)


73, Bob  WA8IMO
> Bob
> KE6WYG

--
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   "73, CUL, es keep the FUN in Ham radio."
>Life Member-ARRL  QCWA< >Member-NODXA  NCDXF<           >DXCC  WAS  RCC <  >8
P9BC<
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                   Bob Sull
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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:55 1996
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From: [e-mail](Galen m.Barnaby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse code trainers
Date: 22 Aug 1996 07:35:06 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Barry
Barkinsky) writes:
>
>Has anybody used any of the morse code trainer programs, either
>computer or cassesette based and have an opinion? I would like to
>upgrade to General and need help to learn the code.
>Thanks, Barry Barkinsky
>               N1WYE
Super Morse is a good program. it has been around for years and has
quite a few different versions.


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse code trainers
Date: 23 Aug 1996 13:05:46 GMT
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>Super Morse is a good program. it has been around for years and has
>quite a few different versions.

True,

but it has lots of bugs. An older version I used was very difficult
to get running, and in the version 415 (current?) the feature
"enhance words" does not function right: the program draws only
words beginning with s to z from the thesaurus. I am using
version 4.06 occasionally and it seems to be OK. Another problem is the
audio quality: SM like some others produce noticeble key clicks,
making the character H sound like tick tick tick tick at 30wpm.
I have com across a program that is much better at that.

73, Moritz DL5UH




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Charles R. Hohenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need IL & WI on 10 & 15 Meters
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 23:53:32 -0500
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I'm working on my five-band Worked All States and need IL & WI on 10 & 15
meters (WI worked twice on 10 meters but unable to get card). If any hams
in these states need IN on these bands, or simply want to help, please
reply; perhaps we can exchange phone numbers and call each other if we
hear short skip. QTH is ninety miles east of Chicago. Working with indoor
dipoles in apartment--no beam.

Also need AK on 10 & 15 meters (I'm not holding my breath). On 10 meters
only I need HI, ID, NM and UT.  WAS already completed on 80, 40 & 20
meters but glad to help anyone who needs IN on these bands and wishes to
set up a sched.

Thanks,
n9sqe
Charles Hohenstein
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:39:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (zommbee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Opinions of TenTec 6-meter transverter
Date: 21 Aug 1996 18:35:29 GMT
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I recently put out a posting looking for 6 meter gear, and almost
everyone who replied said the TenTec transverter is the best
way to go for the money.  It sure sounds like it.  But I have
a few questions maybe some one can answer:

1. I use a TS820S.  Is the transverter output plug-and-play with the
   TenTec unit? or do I still need to run off the main SO239 and crank
   the power down to 5 watts.

2. How is the performance, with say a 3 element yagi of the homebrew
   variety?

3. How does the frequency read out?  I assume I would shoot 10 meters in
   and use some sort of table to convert 10m to 6m, using the 500khz
   scale to keep track of the actual 1khz freq.  Is this how it works?

4. How tricky is the kit to build and get going?  I built converters
   years ago (tube days) and they were quite simple.  Is the TenTec
   along those lines, or is it fussy?

5. I assume, by the name Transverter, that this is a receive converter
   as well.  Is this true?

6. What is your overall opinion?



I hope I haven't asked too much!  I don't have alot to spend on gear and want
to make sure I spend it wisely.  There's nothing better than the internet
for getting opinions (whether you want to or not!!), and I often base
buy decisions on what I hear in these groups.

Email replies to :

Dave WB7AWK
[e-mail] or
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (zommbee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Opinions of TenTec 6-meter transverter??
Date: 21 Aug 1996 18:43:38 GMT
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I recently put out a posting looking for 6 meter gear, and almost
everyone who replied said the TenTec transverter is the best
way to go for the money.  It sure sounds like it.  But I have
a few questions maybe some one can answer:

1. I use a TS820S.  Is the transverter output plug-and-play with the
   TenTec unit? or do I still need to run off the main SO239 and crank
   the power down to 5 watts.

2. How is the performance, with say a 3 element yagi of the homebrew
   variety?

3. How does the frequency read out?  I assume I would shoot 10 meters in
   and use some sort of table to convert 10m to 6m, using the 500khz
   scale to keep track of the actual 1khz freq.  Is this how it works?

4. How tricky is the kit to build and get going?  I built converters
   years ago (tube days) and they were quite simple.  Is the TenTec
   along those lines, or is it fussy?

5. I assume, by the name Transverter, that this is a receive converter
   as well.  Is this true?

6. What is your overall opinion?



I hope I haven't asked too much!  I don't have alot to spend on gear and want
to make sure I spend it wisely.  There's nothing better than the internet
for getting opinions (whether you want to or not!!), and I often base
buy decisions on what I hear in these groups.

Email replies to :

Dave WB7AWK
[e-mail] or
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:03 1996
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From: Dr Tony Farrow <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:44:08 -0700
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Hi all,

Can anyone recommend a brand of 70cm radio from any of the major
ham-radio manufacturers that is really suitable for 9600 baud packet?  I
wonder if there are any PLL sets that are satisfactory?

Thanks & Cheers,

Tony vk2tjf

--

Dr Tony Farrow,
Physics Dept.,
Macquarie University,
Sydney,
Australia 2109.

Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:04 1996
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From: Fred Lloyd <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QRZ News
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 14:49:34 -0600
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QRZ is pleased to announce that our online callsign lookup
web page now includes lattitude/longitude and County information
for all US hams plus a new beam heading lookup feature.

Here's an example of the new database output:

  Callsign: AA7BQ
      Name: FRED L LLOYD
     Addr1: POB 62807
     Addr2: Colorado Springs CO   80962
   Country: USA
     Class: Extra
 Effective: 09 Jan 1990
   Expires: 09 Jan 2000
      Born: 06 Dec 1953
 Prev Call: KJ6RK (A)
  Location: 33.602 N   111.888 W   Maricopa County
   Heading: 228 deg,  544 miles,  877 km
     Email: [e-mail]
 Gif Image: aa7bq.gif

When you lookup callsigns and/or names, there is a new box
which you can input a zip code into.  The system will then
generate a beam heading from the zip code which was entered.


In addition to our 1,000,000 callsign database, we now have the
worlds largest collection of amateur radio email addresses with
over 45,000 hams now listed.  Also, we now have over 800 digital
QSL card images (.gif files) online.

Stop by and visit QRZ at:

http://www.qrz.com


--
-------------------------------------------------
 Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ | Author, QRZ Ham Radio CDROM
   [e-mail]    |     http://www.qrz.com
-------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:07 1996
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From: [e-mail](Anthony Severdia)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Questions about WARC bands
Date: 22 Aug 1996 08:10:16 GMT
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In <4vgpgb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (zommbee) writes:
>
>I feel like I just woke up out of a 12 year sleep and the
>world is a very different place!
>
>Can some one please give me the basic rundown of the WARC
>bands, and what the allocations are?  I have a general
>class license.  What segments/modes are in my license class?
>
>I know there are probably a ton of ARRL publications on this,
>but I haven't seen them and I'm getting really curious.  Using
>my Kenwood R1000 GC receiver I have monitored 10.1-ish and
>heard what must undoubtedly be the 30-meter CW band, but where
>does it stop?
>
>I went to the FCC frequency allocation site on the web and
>got virtually no understandable information from it.
>
>Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>Dave WB7AWK
>[e-mail]

Dave-

    I was in your same position recently!  Go to www.arrl.org/ and
start digging down for all the freq allocations.  Sorry, I don't
have the exact page bookmarked.

    I bitched about this lack of visibility to the webmaster pointing
out that it should be featured on the home page.  He did respond
pointing me to the exact page. Nothing otherwise has changed, however.
Tip: it's like something under "field operations".

    Good luck,  73

    -=Tony=-    W6ANV


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:10 1996
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From: Phil Wakely <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: SAMS Needs Your Electronics URLs
Date: 23 Aug 1996 12:05:57 GMT
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[e-mail] (Tim Gerchmez) wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:46:16 GMT, [e-mail] (Gregg) wrote:
>
>
>>>Vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh ernyyl bhtug gb trg bhg zber
>>
>>Url!  Jung xvaq bs n penpx vf gung?  :-D
>
>Urururur.. V gubhtug EBG13 jnf bhg bs qngr.. guvf vf gur svefg gvzr
>V'ir frra vg hfrq va dhvgr n juvyr ;)
>

Jung vf/jnf EBG13 ??









From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Gerchmez)
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Subject: Re: SAMS Needs Your Electronics URLs
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 01:01:48 GMT
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On 23 Aug 1996 12:05:57 GMT, Phil Wakely <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[e-mail] (Tim Gerchmez) wrote:
>>On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:46:16 GMT, [e-mail] (Gregg) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh ernyyl bhtug gb trg bhg zber
>>>
>>>Url!  Jung xvaq bs n penpx vf gung?  :-D
>>
>>Urururur.. V gubhtug EBG13 jnf bhg bs qngr.. guvf vf gur svefg gvzr
>>V'ir frra vg hfrq va dhvgr n juvyr ;)
>>
>
>Jung vf/jnf EBG13 ??
>

Tvira gung lbh rapbqrq gur nobir, lbh onfvpnyyl nyernql xabj jung vg
vf.  Vg'f n fvzcyr Hfrarg rapbqvat zrgubq (sbetbg jurer vg bevtvangrq,
fbzrbar ryfr pbhyq cebonoyl gryy lbh).  V unqa'g rire frra vg hfrq
orsber hagvy guvf guernq fgnegrq.  Zl arjfernqre (Ntrag .99S) vapyhqrf
n EBG13 rapbqre/qrpbqre, fb V'z abg qbvat guvf ol unaq ;)


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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Christensen)
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Subject: Re: SAMS Needs Your Electronics URLs
Date: 26 Aug 1996 04:13:51 GMT
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In article <4vqiur$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In <4vqfae$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (GeorgeS) writes:
>>
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>[e-mail]
 says...
>>
>>>Nf gb jurer vg bevtvangrq, vg'f n irel fvzcyr Pnrfne pvcure gung'f
>orra nebhaq n ybat juvyr (fvapr ng yrnfg gur qnlf bs Whyvhf Pnrfne) -
>lbh whfg fuvsg rirel yrggre 13 fcnprf va gur nycunorg (jenccvat nebhaq
>nf arprffnel.)  V'z abg pregnva jung "EBG" zrnaf be jurer vg pnzr sebz,
>>>gubhtu.
>>>
>>
>>My guess is ROT13 is short for ROTATE 13. If you imagine the alphabet
>on a wheel, you would cipher the text by rotating the wheel 13 spaces
>>
>
>By goom, you're right!  I did it the hard way - I noticed Ken Harker
>had capitalized a V in the middle of one of his sentences.  I assumed
>this was "I" (what other single letter do we capitalize?) and
>translated (rotated) the alphabet accordingly.  Everything fell out
>nicely from there.
>
>After deciphering "If you can read this, you really ought to get out
>more," I decided the effort greatly outweighed the rewards!
>
>- Jeff (wrss)

Gurer vf nabgure ernyyl rnfl jnl gb qrpvcure guvf. Vs lbh ner hfvat Jvaivz nf
n
arjf ernqre, nyy lbh unir gb qb vf uvg PGEY. E naq vg punatrf gur grkg evtug
orsber lbhe irel ryes.

Jim
>



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Philip Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Saturn Owners
Date: 27 Aug 1996 15:47:04 -0400
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I have a 1996 Saturn SL2 automatic.  I have recently installed a 1/4 wl
antenna for 2m on the trunklid (center) and have noticed a radiated noise
problem, on 146.52 and other freqs.

The noise appears when the engine is running.  It disappears about 3 or 4
seconds AFTER the engine is shut off.  It does not appear to be the fuel
pump, as I can hear it fire up before I crank the engine, and the noise
does not appear untill after the engine is physically running.

Any ideas?  What would be still operating after the engine is shut off.
It isn't the engine fan, as it wasn't on at that time.

The noise is not present in the acc position or without the engine being
started, so I have ruled out such things as the ABS or airbag system.

TIA
Phil

--
NRE/COLE Test Center OH-3
[e-mail]
Philip L. Carter, WD8QWR
wd8qwr@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.na


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Schematics wanted-Heath Commanche & Cheyenne
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:38:39 -0700
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In article <4viu1c$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> I have a fellow ham looking for schematics for his Heath Commanche and
> Cheyenne transmitter and receiver. Can anyone help him out.
> Tnx & 73 John VE3DOS

Hi John, I carry both schematics, Heath Commanche and
Cheyenne transmitter and receiver, for only $5 each plus $3 shipping. In
fact I carry over 3000 manuals on my web site http://www.sarrio.com 73's
Ray
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per. Located at http://www.sarrio.com.

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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:15 1996
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From: Chris Bridges <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Shelby Hamfest Info
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 21:44:35 -0700
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http://www.rvpark.com/hamradio/shelby.htm


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Signal Analyser for I.D.
Date: 24 Aug 1996 21:58:02 GMT
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[e-mail] (CHRISTOPHER CARTWRIGHT) writes:
>I think this might be what the cellular industry is calling
>"RF Fingerprinting".

At a ham convention a few years back, one such device was being
demonstrated.  Apparently it samples the frequency stability of the
first few milliseconds of each transmission and compares it to a
learned database of transmitters.  Since the instantaneous frequency
stability of a transmitter being keyed is highly dependent on individual
component tolerances and aging, it's said to be unique, and capable of
identifying a particular unit.

See the patent for more details, I suppose.
        - Brian
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:17 1996
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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Signal Analyser for I.D.
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 09:07:58 -0600
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Frank Sved wrote:
>
> I've heard that there are devices on the market that will analyse a signal
> generated by a transceiver and be able to distinguish it from others on a
> recheck.
>
> Has anyone else heard of these, and if so, do they work well?  Do they
> track the oscillator?  How do they work?

Motron that makes one.  Visit them at http://www.motron.com/

-----
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Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:18 1996
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On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 16:51:22 -0700, John Mullan <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Rick Miller wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Could someone verify what I'll need to do to upgrade from Tech Plus
>> to General?  I just need to pass the 13-gpm code test, right?
>>
>> "Rigless" Rick Miller (kb9obn) [e-mail]
>Unfortunately, given that yours is a relatively new license, you
>probably only have elements 1a (5 wpm), 2 (novice theory), and 3a
>(technician  theory) to your credit. This means that you must pass
>elements 1b (13 wpm) and 3b (general theory) to upgrade to a general
>class license. If you passed the old element 3 which was the
>technician/general theory test then you indeed need only pass 1b to
>upgrade.
>
>73 de KD2LQ

   Go for it Rick....I'm sure you can get the theory with no sweat! I
just passed my extra written and now I'm working on my 20 wpm :)

    Hope to catch you on the air in the general portion of the band
some time soon!
    73  - de KG9EC


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
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[e-mail] (Mark S. Bond) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] wrote:

>> Hi!
>>
>> Could someone verify what I'll need to do to upgrade from Tech Plus
>> to General?  I just need to pass the 13-gpm code test, right?
>>
>> "Rigless" Rick Miller (kb9obn) [e-mail]

>Rick, in addition to the 13wpm CW, you have to pass the General theory...

Unless your Tech license was originally issued before the Tech
theory test became a separate element from the general.


Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



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From: Rick Miller <[e-mail]>
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Hi!

Could someone verify what I'll need to do to upgrade from Tech Plus
to General?  I just need to pass the 13-gpm code test, right?

"Rigless" Rick Miller (kb9obn) [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Glenn E. Little)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
m (Mark S. Bond) says:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Could someone verify what I'll need to do to upgrade from Tech Plus
>> to General?  I just need to pass the 13-gpm code test, right?
>>
>> "Rigless" Rick Miller (kb9obn) [e-mail]
>
>Rick, in addition to the 13wpm CW, you have to pass the General theory...
>
>--mark n2riq


Should depend on date of Tech Plus license.  I am a Tech Plus (23 years)
The theory test I took (not memorized from a book, the question
pool was NOT in the public domain) was the same as General.  For me to
upgrade only requires that I pass 13 WPM cw.

73
Glenn Little
WB4UIV


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Rich --

>On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:19:02 -0500, Rick Miller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Hi!
>>
>>Could someone verify what I'll need to do to upgrade from Tech Plus
>>to General?  I just need to pass the 13-gpm code test, right?
>>
>   You need to pass the 13wpm code exam, as well as the General
>written exam.

NOT necessarily true.  You could be a "grandfathered" tech plus.
That depends on the date of your original technican license.  If you are
a technician class licensee claiming "grandfather rights" to elements 1A
and 3, (license issued on or before 3/21/87) or to element 1A (license
issued after 3/21/87 but before 2/14/91)  the burden of proof to your
claim rests with you.  An original CSCE showing successful passing of
those elements and/or license showing  technician privileges (or novice
for element 1A) within those "dates windows" along with your current
license are examples of acceptable proof to most VE's/VEC's.

If you dont meet those dates windows, then what Rick says is true.

    k1zat


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Rick Miller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Could someone verify what I'll need to do to upgrade from Tech Plus
>to General?  I just need to pass the 13-gpm code test, right?
>
>"Rigless" Rick Miller (kb9obn) [e-mail]

Hi, Rick -

I see you've already got the answers to your question (s), but heck, if
I were you, I'd just hang for a while.  If what I've been seeing here
is any indication of what's to come, Hey, you're in high cotton.

A lot of these guys seem to want nothing more than to toss all this
silly testing nonsense out the window.  Testing's a nuisance, don't
you see, cause most of it, you never use anyway.  It's just an
unfair barrier to a lot of really motivated and super sophisticated
folks who want to access to HF, but can't afford a steam-driven
spark gap transmitter.

So my advice is, chill out.  Wait some, and pretty soon, I bet you'll
be able to pick your own callsign, and just light off that rig, zoom
on down to HF, and ratchet jaw all you want.

Breaker, Breaker!

Dave Potter/KC5UDZ
If it ain't CW, it's CB



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Nick England)
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I built one of the Ten-Tec 2m transceivers a few months ago and had a
great time. Ten Tec has done a very good job in trying to create a kit
that is fun and informative to build and that delivers good value.

The manual is very high quality and tries to teach you something about
what you are building. To this end, the construction is in phases - at
the end of each phase you should know something about the circuit you
just assembled and you can test its operation pretty easily. For
instance, the first phase is to assemble the front panel displays and
switches and the control microprocessor. Hook up a power supply and you
can enter frequencies, offsets, PLL tones, etc. to see it work. Next
step is the freq synthesizer - if you have another receiver you can
pick it up as you change frequencies via the front panel. Receive and
Transmit stages are similarly staged.

I had a good time building the rig, got just the sort of transceiver
I wanted at a reasonable price (and from a US manufacturer), and best of
all had a great big grin on my face when I finished building something
that worked. It reminded me a lot of the feelings I got many years ago
building Knight-kits or Heath-kits.

Another happy customer,
Nick KD4CPL

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http://www.cs.unc.edu/~nick             Chapel Hill NC



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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #178 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 30-Aug:
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1.   FCC Announces Gate 2 Opening Date for Vanity Call Sign Program
2.   JARL/JAMSAT Successfully Launch JAS-2/FUJI-3 Satellite
3.   NASA Astronaut Gets License, Scheduled for '97 or '98 Mission
4.   ARRL Announces Results of Section Manager Elections
5.   "Ancient Amateur Archives" with Bill Continelli, KE2XB
6.   Weekly Propagation Forecast
7.   "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
8.   Comments Filed by ARRL on Part 15 Use of 5 GHz for Data LANs
9.   Eli Nannis, K4JMH (ex-W1HKG), Bill Stevens, W6ZM, Listed as SKs
10.  Special Event Station Calendar
11.  "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
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Funding for the program's transmission and production expense was
provided this week by a grant from Dana Rodakis of St. Petersburg,
Florida, and the AJ1R repeater system, serving Florida's Sun Coast
on 51.84, 145.230, 147.285, 442.075, 443.625, and 443.95 MHz.
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"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard on the "W0KIE Satellite Network" each Saturday at 9:00 PM
(EDT) on the Hughes Communications SBS-6 commercial communications
satellite, transponder 13B upper, located at 74 degrees west
longitude in equatorial geosynchronous orbit.  The transponder
center frequency is 12.019 GHz; tune up in frequency to 12.031 GHz.
Program audio is on the 6.2 MHz analog subcarrier and carried on
VHF/UHF repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860
kHz.  Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
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Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (email [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (email [e-mail]).  You may also reach
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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:27 1996
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The Xerox Amateur Radio (XAR) club WD6CZH will be running the "Ton O'
Radios" special event station this weekend.  Our goal is to work over
2,000 pounds of radios.  The exchange is your callsign and the weight of
the transmitter and receiver (or transceiver) used to make the contact.

Time: 1600-2400 UTC
Date: 31-Aug-96
Freq: General portions of the 40M, 20M, and 15M bands
      Novice portion of 10M band
      WD6CZH repeater (near LAX) 449.325- 114.8PL

For a certificate, send a 9x12 inch SASE to XAR, 6940 Bacarro St., Long
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The Great South Bay ARC hosts ARRL amateur radio exams every 4th
Sunday at 12 noon. Please note the change for the month of June.
Re-scheduled because of Field Day and Father's Day.

Exams are given from Novice to Extra class.
All exams are ARRL/VEC, CW exams are multiple choice w/ full headphones.
The examination site is in the ARES/RACES room located in the basement.
Access is at the rear of the building via stairs.  Ring RED (TOP) buzzer
for entry.

Location: Babylon Town Hall
          Emergency Operations Center
          200 E. Sunrise Hwy.
          North Lindenhurst, NY

Talk in : 146.685/r 136.5pl

Please bring the following:
- Photocopy and original of current Amateur Radio License if licensed.
- Photocopy and original of CSCE(s) that are current.
- two forms of ID, at least one photo ID.
- pens or pencils.
- Calculator for math problems on exams, no pocket computers are allowed.
- 1996 Exam fee is $6.05, please bring exact change.
  * Novice exams (elements 1A & 2) are free.

For addition information you may contact:

Tom Carrubba KA2DFO  [phone] or 422-9594
Walter Wenzel KA2RGI [phone]

Visit the GSBARC homepage! http://members.aol.com/gsbarc
Watch for our HAMFEST announcement for Oct 27, 1996



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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
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[e-mail] (Jim Kehler) wrote:


>And you can't call 911 on your cellphone because everybody at 911
>is eating pizza and they won't answer the phone..........

Eee.. Heaven forbid!  But when we had that last storm, calling either
the emergency (911) or non-emergency lines for the local pd was
futile.
I understand your point, and I do have a celular phone. However, I
have taken it on trips and placed it on the dash so I can watch the
signal meter. Quite a few times, for periods of up to 30 minutes
travel time, "No Service" flashes on the screen.
(I make several trips to Idaho each year)

Rob Neff



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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
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Subject: Re: WA8IMO wants to know !
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Steve Wolf <[e-mail]> wrote:

>True ... for now, anyway.  If instances of amateurs causing harmful
>keep occuring, you will loose that "right".

Sure, if we all keep bending over for crap like this EPA stuff..

>The simple lack of a motive for needing a modified radio is evidence
>as to the intention to cause interference.

Not really, it proves that the prosecution has lack of evidence.

"He owns a gun, he must be bad. Why, he'll probably be shooting
someone soon.." Yeah, right.

>I bet a bunch of prosecutors and juries would agree.

>Anyone who modifies a radio for out of band interference ... oops, I mean
>"use", without cause to need that modification, is asking for the trouble
>they get.  (This includes the trouble that will occur if their modified
>radio is stolen and used criminally and then traced back to the owner.)

If a situation came up where you had an accident in the middle of
nowhere, people are bleeding and strewn about the road.. You call for
help on all the simplex freqs, even try a couple repeater pairs to no
avail.. You tune out of band to hear a DPS officer, BUT, since you
didn't have a modified radio, you sit and watch the others die,
knowing.

God help us if we ever need to, but its worth the risk to save a life.

>(Hey, Bob!  WA8IMO!  Can I use your flameproof suit as if the above doesn't
>ignite a bruhaha, I don't know what will!)

>--
>73,
>Steve
>       Internet:  [e-mail]
>       Amateur Radio:  no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
>       MSYS Mail List:  [e-mail] ('info' for title)


Rob Neff (N7ORY)



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[e-mail] (Rob Neff) wrote:

>If a situation came up where you had an accident in the middle of
>nowhere, people are bleeding and strewn about the road.. You call for
>help on all the simplex freqs, even try a couple repeater pairs to no
>avail.. You tune out of band to hear a DPS officer, BUT, since you
>didn't have a modified radio, you sit and watch the others die,
>knowing.

And you can't call 911 on your cellphone because everybody at 911
is eating pizza and they won't answer the phone..........





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From: [e-mail] (dwh)
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Subject: WANTED SPANISH TUTOR SOFTWARE
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Wanted:
  Spanish Tutor Software.  For DOS or Windows 3.1.  Anything will be
appreciated.  Please email me.

Thanks
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (gloria medcalf)
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Subject: Web Site moved - digital mode articles and Radio-TNC wiring diagrams
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:00:43 -0600
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The web site: Ham Radio Articles de ka5ztx
Has moved to: http://prairie.lakes.com/~medcalf/ztx/

Please visit and/or update any bookmarks or links you may have
(the old address  http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/
will be disappearing in the near future.)

The site contains Radio to TNC wiring diagrams for many models
and articles about packet radio and other digital modes.

73 gloria ka5ztx   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:34 1996
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From: KD1YV <[e-mail]>
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THE WESTERN CONNECTICUT HAMFEST
Sponsored by the Candlewood Amateur Radio Association

Sunday, Sept. 15, 1996                      0900-1400
Edmond Town Hall                 Route 6, Newtown, CT
Tables inside                      Tailgating outside
ARRL Sanctioned                    Handicapped Access
Door Prizes                             Ample Parking
Gourmet Fare                            Rain or shine

Talk-in 147.12/.72 PL 141.3

General admission $4.00 at the door (what a deal!)

Tailgating $6.00, inside table reservations $10.00 each, (both
include 1 admission), mail to:
Candlewood Amateur Radio Association, PO BOX 3441, Danbury CT 06813

For more info, phone [phone] or [phone].

Hope to see you all there.
73 de KD1YV
Jim


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:35 1996
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From: Mark Brown <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: What's our state of the art?
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 15:41:51 -0700
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PGSPersEng wrote:
>
> Hi gang,
>
> I'd like some suggestions for a piece I'm writing.
> Hi
     Just a small thought, how about 1296 & above eme being done with
small 10' satelite tv dishes & relatively low power (200-300 watts)for a
signal off the moon. This would include the building of your own
tsansverter (not much commercial gear for the higher bands), using DSP
technology to help pull that weak CW signal out of the noise etc.
     Mark


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:37 1996
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From: Bob Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What's our state of the art?
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PGSPersEng wrote:
>
> Hi gang,
>
> I'd like some suggestions for a piece I'm writing.
>
> Specifically, I'm the editor of Personal Engineering & Instrumentation
> News, and I plan to write my lead editorial in the October issue on the
> topic of ham radio. What I'm trying to do is break down the stereotype of
> an old fart sitting in front of a CW key or mike on the HF bands on a
> ragchew. I want to show my readers (all of whom are scientists and
> engineers) that we're doing some really nifty state-of-the-art
> stuff...that we're still the experimentors and innovators of old...that
> the hobby can present some interesting technical challenges.
>
> So, what is the state of the art? What kind of unusual attention-grabbing
> things are we doing? Remember, I'm trying to grab their attention, so I
> have to present the examples in a non-esoteric way and come up with a few
> that really give the light-bulb effect (gees, hams can do *that* !!??!!)
>
> Just off the top of my head (I'm only starting to think about this piece),
> things that come to my mind include:
> * conversations with MIR and other space vehicles
> * satellite operation (actually becoming pretty commonplace)
> * moonbounce
> * international packet networks.
>
> I'll have room for only a handful of examples, but I'm wondering what
> *you'd* put in if you had the chance?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
> Paul, AA1MIPactor II (see the SCS or PacComm home page), Clover, Packet, sat
elites.



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:39 1996
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From: Mike McAmis
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Windows Logging/Packet Freeware
Date: 24 Aug 1996 01:11:37 GMT
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Disappointed with your commercial/shareware logging or
packet software for Windows?  Try XMLog, freeware that's
available on the Internet.  XMLog provides a flexible set
of coordinated logging and packet features.

If you're using a Web browser, start at Boston Amateur Radio
Club's home page (http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc/barc.html)
  - scroll down to the "BARC FTP Archives" section
  - click on "FTP Archive"
  - scroll down to "Software Archives"
  - click on "PC Files"
  - click on "logging"
  - scroll down and click on "xmlog124.zip"

(Even though the directory says DOS, it really is a Windows
program...)

For ftp users, sign on to ftp.barc.org with the userid
of anonymous and a password of guest.  Move to the
/pub/hamradio/dos/logging directory and get xmlog124.zip

XMLog is now also available from ftp.funet.fi in Finland.
Sign on with a userid of anonymous and supply your e-mail
address as the password.  Move to the directory
/pub/ham/hf-log and get xmlog124.zip

Version 1.24 has mostly minor improvements - the big changes
are DXCC/WAS/WAZ award submission tracking and support for
the Radio Amateur Callbook (Flying Horse) CD.

Version 1.23 is still available for those with PC's that
only have 4mb of memory (1.24 requires 8mb).

The archives can be busy at times, don't give up if you
can't sign on right away.  Let me know if you:
  -  want more info
  -  can't fetch the file
  -  want diskettes instead

Have fun...

Mike/WA3ECT
[e-mail]  (internet)
WA3ECT @ W1ET.NH           (packet)




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:40 1996
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From: Thomas Brockdorf AA9IS <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wisconsin Callsign Plates?
Date: 23 Aug 1996 04:57:05 GMT
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I would like to apply for callsign License plates in Wisconsin.
I heard somewhere that there is some one to contact in the D.O.T.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Thomas




From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Wisconsin Callsign Plates?
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 06:34:00 GMT
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>>I would like to apply for callsign License plates in Wisconsin.

Call the same state office that you would call for ANY automobile
registration questions.

Or, if you're a member of the Automobile Club, call them!


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (K5ODZ)
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Subject: Worked Central America Certificate....
Date: 25 Aug 1996 07:22:51 -0400
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Checkout:  http://www.hic.net/tomcat/Index.html
to see how you can qualify for the Worked Central America Certificate
(WCA) and order it by E-mail.

Thanks & gud DX,

Tom, K5ODZ

[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
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To: [e-mail]
Subject: world wide database

R>send your name ,, call and internet address to--  [e-mail]
 >for inclusion in the database

Roland Stiner, NK2U, [e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (cdyson)
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Subject: WTB: 6JS6 MP
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I am looking for a match pair of 6JS6's for my FT101.  Must be new in
box.

Reply via e-mail

Clarence  WA6STX

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Aug 27 16:40:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill English)
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Subject: Yaesu FT890, Ameritron Al-80A, MFJ DPS - FOR SALE!!!
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I would like to sell the following radio equipment:

I have a Yaesu FT890 with internal antenna tuner retail price 1600
USD... on
the used market they are bringing 900 to 1000 EASY

I have an Ameritron Al-80A 1 KW amp with full breakin built-in (no
relays,,,pin diode switching... you can send morse code and receive
between
the dits and dahs...it's slick!!) retail 1200 USD WITHOUT the full
breakin.... the pin diode board is around 300USD. Used it's worth
around 900
for a FAST sell WITHOUT full breakin

I have a MFJ DPS (digital signal processor) retail 250 USD....175 used
EASY

All I want is 1500 for all the stuff.....

Email reply to:

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Gracilis Packet Ten
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In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960821192238.15938A-100000@belle> [e-mail]
.PH (Victorio O. Ochave) writes:
>As an option to spectrum/allocation problems related to the use of GRAPES
>modems and transverters (we do not have the 100 Khz, 220 Mhz channel
>allocation here), we are also considering the use of Cylink
>spread-spectrum radios to be driven by the P10's. Will we not have
>interfacing problems with this set-up?

Note that the GRAPES modems aren't limited to the 220 MHz band.
They can also be used on any higher band for which you can get a
transverter (such as the Down East units on 70cm). You can certainly
do the distances you propose with that setup. I can't comment on
the Cylink radios. The P10 expects to talk to a synchronous modem,
if the Cylink looks like a synchronous modem (including supplying
clock signals), you may be able to use it.

Gary

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es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP Packet for Win95 ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Beyond that i'd be surprised if the MStcp stack deals very well with return
>times measured in minutes rather than fractions of seconds. I'm afraid the
>majority of connections you could make on your local packet network would loo
k
>like 'time-outs' to the win95-box.

Bingo! That's the rub. You get a packet storm on channel at startup
followed by a time out. Nasty.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:42 1996
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From: Roland Johnson <[e-mail]>
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Where can I find info on program PKGOLD
need address of company  so I can order it
thanks Ole N0ABE


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:43 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: I WOULD LIKE TO BE A MANAGER
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:54:30 -0700
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Hello,

My name is Tony Naglieri my call is N1NYD qrh Ware, Ma. home telephone is
413-967-7426.  I would like to help out some ham by beening a manager.


Thank You


Tony


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:44 1996
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From: John M Domblewski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Communications Quarterly, was Re: Gunneplexors
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 01:07:50 -0400
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Will Flor wrote:
>
> Steve Sampson wrote:
> >
> > Then apply the Communications
> > Quarterly knowlege.  CQ (no not that CQ) was what became of Ham Radio
> > magazine.  Don't know if it's still published.
>
> Yes, it's still around, and it's still well worth the
> effort needed to track it down.  I buy it on the newsstand
> at Amateur Electronic Supply here in Milwaukee.
>
> 73 de KB9JTTIt's not hard to get from the people who publish it. CQ publicat
ions
yes the same folks publish both CQ's.

John


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From: John M Domblewski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WTB:paccomm Handipacket
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Anybody have one of these to sell ?
let me know.

John


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From: "Gary V. Smith" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PKGOLD
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 02:17:49 -0700
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Roland Johnson wrote:
>
> Where can I find info on program PKGOLD
> need address of company  so I can order it
> thanks Ole N0ABE

Roland,

PkGOLD is a product of InterFlex Systems
P.O. Box 6418
Laguna Niguel, CA 92607-6418
Phone:  [phone]
Fax:  [phone]
BBS:  [phone]

I've used PkGOLD for about two years.  There isn't much available that
can compare with it.  They have a TestDrive demo version that you should
ask them to send you so that you can kick the tires.

Good luck.  Ttul, Tnx es 73 de
Gary - KD6RXT
South Bend, IN
-k-


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In article <[e-mail]>, John Woodstock <
[e-mail]> says:
>
>
>Although a ham for quite some time, I'm just starting to play around with
>packet.
>
>I've looked through quite a bit of software, and I can't figure out how to do

>this..
>
>I have a PK-96 TNC and so far I seem to be most comfortable using PAKET61
>
>I'm trying to figure out how to poll my local PBBS (FBB Style) and retrieve
>any mail I have waiting and store it locally in the TNC or some software
>package.. I would also like to be able to enter a message locally and have it

>transfer to the PBBS..
>
>How do I do that?
>
>Second question.. What Windows/WIN95 Terminal/PBBS programs are there?
>
>the program u are looking for is tsthost .it will do all u want and more u wi
ll
find it on the site ..ftp.unibol.com....it is located in northern ireland..hop
e this
 help`s u out ..best de cape breton..nelson..ve1go..




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Wolken)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 04:10:11 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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[e-mail] (Douglas Alexander) wrote:

>I am thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner

>I have been told the following units are quite nice:

>   Uniden BC3000xlt
>   ICOM R1
>   AOR 2700

>I would like to get some feedback on the quality and capabilities of these
>or other recommended units before I purchase.

>Please email feedback to [e-mail]

>--
>[e-mail]
>--

>Douglas Alexander
>Florida Power & Light
>Turkey Point Nuclear Plant
>Nuclear Operations Department

>--
>Pardon me,
>I am from the 24th century,
>and I'm heading back as soon as
>Doc Brown fixes the Flux Capacitor!


I've owned probably 40 different handheld scanners in the last five
years and there is no doubt in my mind that none of the above is the
correct answer.

If you can find a pro-43 at a reasonable price grab it.  The later
ones cannot be unblocked  for cellular and I've never owned one of
them so I can't tell you much about them but the earlier ones (don't
ask me dates)  have the best audio, intermod rejection, image
rejection, and ergonomics of anything that I've ever used.  I've
always kept at least one even though I've bought and sold many.

Dr. Electrode
a.k.a.  Larry Wolken N3OJD
voice   [phone]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Subject: Re: SAMS Needs Your Electronics URLs
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Gregg ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >
: >After deciphering "If you can read this, you really ought to get out
: >more," I decided the effort greatly outweighed the rewards!

: Jeff, you're using the built-in newsreader in the Netcruiser software.
: It's crap.  Try using Free Agent -- and, if you like it, you can buy
: Agent -- and you can do ROT13 with a couple of mouse clicks.  Much
: more importantly, you can also do most of your Usenet news stuff
: offline.

Or, if you use 'tin' as the newsreader, you can do so by simply pressing
a lower case d key while in read mode.

Bill


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Towle)
Subject: RE: KaGold
Date: 27 Aug 96 06:17:40 -0700
References: <[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Kevin,

Just send a note to  "[e-mail]"

Changing callsigns is easy, all you need is a new ID number, and they
are easily available simply by asking, and providing your old callsign.

You might also visit the web page:  "http://www.interflex.com"

73 -- Jeff




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marty Albert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet BBS Survey -- Last Call!
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 06:20:34 GMT
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Hello, Folks:

Please note that on September 01, 1996 the Packet BBS Survey on my
home page will be taken down.

I have received many replies from both the Internet and from the
Packet network (about 3 times more from the Internet) and wish to give
everyone a final chance to respond if you have not done so already.

The survey can be found on my home page at:

  http://www.trucom.com/ppages/marty

It will probably take a couple of weeks to tabulate and analyze the
data, but the results will be posted here and on Packet.

Thanks!

Take Care & 73



Marty Albert - [e-mail]
Amateur Radio: KC6UFM@KC6UFM.#SEMO.MO.USA.NOAM

Heartland Internet Services

*************************************************
Want a FREE Web Page???
http://freedomstarr.com/?AL7837318
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:53 1996
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From: Paolo Tealdi <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Portable VHF mark ALINCO model DJ180E
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 10:32:14 +0200
Organization: Politecnico di Torino (Italy)
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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A friend of mine is a radio amateur and he has got this transceiver
radio:
        RTX mark ALINCO
        ELECTRONICS INC. JAPAN
        Portable VHF
        model DJ180E

He has got two questions about this radio:
1) How can he modify his radio to extend the band from 144/146 MHz to
130/170 MHz?
2) Can he receive the "manual for use" of this radio? (A photocopy of
the manual is acceptable too!)

For details, please conctact me through my personal e-mail address.
Thank you very much!

Paolo Tealdi - Italy
E-mail: [e-mail]
WWW: http://www.polito.it/~s76511/index.html


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: 70 cm deregulqtion in France
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 (NOV)
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:02:10 GMT
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In <4vrrc6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kees Leune) writes:

>I have such a device residing at my neighbours house. It's a broadband FM
>wireless set of headphones, with the center frequency on 433.500 MHz. Yep
>you guessed, the FM calling frequency. A fellow amateur who lives about
>6 km away from me could not reach me on that frequency and he sent out 35W of
>power. The signal is (of course) way over S9 on my Kenwood TM733e.

>Somehow, I doubt if the neighbours really only have a 10mW device.....

A 10mW signal from your neighbour's house can easily give you a
way-over-S9 signal, especially on a crappy S-meter.  And most modern
FM transceivers have crappy S-meters, even though it is technically
feasibly to have it working correctly.  The transceiver probably would
not sell when the S-meter had a truely logarithmic scale.
(demo in the shop: the signal is much stronger on this one, it must
be better!)

Of course a good way to get rid of the signal is to call CQ.  This does
not guarantee a good relationship with your neighbour, unfortunately.
However, when you do this quickly after they bought the device, you could
maybe convince them to take it back to the shop and have it exchanged
for an infrared type.

Rob
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen       [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
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In <[e-mail]> Dr Tony Farrow <[e-mail]> writes:

>Hi all,

>Can anyone recommend a brand of 70cm radio from any of the major
>ham-radio manufacturers that is really suitable for 9600 baud packet?  I
>wonder if there are any PLL sets that are satisfactory?

Use an all-mode (FM, SSB) transceiver.  Most of them are quite suitable,
even when it is not listed as such in the ads.  Of course you will have
to make a modification in the latter case.
Best is to use a transceiver with a fast transmit<->receive switching
time, e.g. the ICOM IC-475.
When that is over your budget, stick with a Tekk.  It performs equally
or better.

Rob
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen       [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Les Dittert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: GRAPES 56K modem , is it dead?
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:33:28 -0800
Organization: RFX Inc
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I have not heard anything about the GRAPES 56k modem project lately.
They were supposedly  making the new version available in a kit form
but I see nothing on their web page.

Is this 56Kbaud radio modem project dead ? That would be a shame.


Les

Les Dittert



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:50:58 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: Steve Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Data Port on Yaesu 5100
Sender: [e-mail] (News Dude)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:20:08 GMT
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Having problems with the deviation level that comes from the data port
on the 5100. I have adjusted the tnc transmit level to max with little
difference. Has anyone else had the same results? I called Yaesu Tech
support to find out where the deviation level was set on the radio and
was told there wasn't any. Needless to say I don't believe the guy. The
person was not a tech and there was none advailable. If anyone have a
service manual and be willing to look for the information, I would
appericiate that.

Thanks...
Steve KD4SZK

Please send email to
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:47:57 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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In article <[e-mail]> Dr Tony Farrow <[e-mail]>
 writes:

>Hi all,

>Can anyone recommend a brand of 70cm radio from any of the major
>ham-radio manufacturers that is really suitable for 9600 baud packet?  I
>wonder if there are any PLL sets that are satisfactory?

>Thanks & Cheers,

>Tony vk2tjf

Hi Tony.

I run a Kenwood 451a on 9.6k 24 hours a day. Some will claim this radio
is inadequate for 9.6k operation, and I have not had it on any test equipment,
but it runs flawlesly with my Kantronics 9612 on both, the 9.6k repeater, and
keyboard-to-keyboard.

The only downside is I have to run a 250ms TXDELAY thru the repeater, as the
PLL (of course) "sweeps" a little when switching from the TX freq, to the RX
freq...and vice versa.

Other than that...I like it very much, and it works well.

Take care.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ARRL/TAPR DCC Update
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 17:30:06 -0600
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1996 ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference
September 20-22, 1996
Seattle, Washington (minutes from SeaTac airport)

The 15th Annual ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference is almost
here.  The 1996 ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference will be held
on September 20-22, 1996 in Seattle, Washington.  This year's conference
location is just minutes away from the SeaTac (Seattle/Tacoma) Airport.


Full information is available on TAPR Web Page http://www.tapr.org


The 1996 ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference is co-hosted by the
Puget Sound Amateur Radio TCP/IP Group and Boeing Employees Amateur Radio
Society (BEARS).

Not only is the Digital Communications Conference technically stimulating, it
is a weekend of fun for all who have more than a casual interest in any of the
ham digital communications modes. The ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications
Conference is for all levels of digital operators -- a must conference to
attend to get active on a national level.  Abstracts for the papers are now
available on the TAPR web page.

The conference is not just for the digital expert. This year's conference will
again provide an entire morning with beginning and intermediate presentations
on selected topics in digital communications. Some of the topics will include:
APRS, Satellite Communications, TCP/IP, Digital Radio, Spread Spectrum and
other introductory topics. Come to the conference and hear these topics
presented by the experts! Don't miss this opportunity to listen and talk to
others in this area.

In addition to the presentation of papers on Friday and Saturday, three
workshops will be held during the conference. Keith Sproul, WU2Z, will hold a
workshop on APRS packet-location software. On Sunday, Dewayne Hendricks,
WA8DZP , will conduct a workshop focusing on "How to utilize Part 15 wireless
Radios for Ham Applications."  A second Sunday workshop will focus on Wireless
Networking using the WA4DSY 56K RF modem Technology.

Full information on the conference and hotel information can be obtained by
contacting Tucson Amateur Packet Radio, 8987-309 E. Tanque Verde Road #337,
Tucson, AZ 85749-9399. Phone: [phone]. Fax: [phone]. Internet:
[e-mail] Web: www.tapr.org

Conference presentations, meetings, and workshops will be held at the Quality
Inn Seattle Airport, a complex co-located with the Radisson Hotel Seattle
Airport. When making reservations with the hotel, be sure to indicate you are
attending the ARRL and TAPR DCC conference. The hotel provides transportation
to and from SeaTac Airport. You should contact the hotel to arrange airport
transportation.

       Quality Inn Seattle Airport (conference hotel)
       17101 Pacific Highway South, Seattle, WA, 98188
       [phone], Fax [phone]

       Radisson Hotel Seattle Airport (alternate hotel)
       17101 Pacific Highway South, Seattle, WA, 98188
       [phone], Fax [phone]




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 TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:02 1996
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From: Gary Tait <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.equipment,sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.equipment,rec.video.satellite.misc,sci.electronics.design,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WTB: ISM (902-928 MHz) (Wireless) Transmitter & Receiver
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 18:22:26 -0400
Organization: Bruce Municipal Telephone System
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Ever think of reworking a celluler phone?
I am doing that now (for amateur though)

Gary Tait , VE3VBF

On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Helmut Forren wrote:

> I need an ISM transmitter and receiver for performing some research.
> Any fixed frequency in the 902-928 band would do.
>
> If you have any equipment or know where I can get some at an affordable
> cost, please let me know.
>
> Thanks.
> Helmut Forren
> [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for going to TCP/IP ?
Date: 27 Aug 1996 20:26:04 -0400
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Rich & Katy Mulvey ([e-mail]) wrote:
: On Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:33:25 -0400, Richard Abbot <[e-mail]>
wrote:
: >Hi Folks,
: >
: >I work with TCP/IP-based computer networks every day, and I'm
: >very familiar with using telnet, ftp, etc.  So, I probably would
: >not get any extra enjoyment from using telnet to connect to
: >another station, in place of the AX.25 "connect" command.
: >
: >Does running TCP/IP open up any new, fun, possibilities?  Or is
: >it simply another way to receive an error-free stream of
: >for-sale notices?
: >
:
:
:    Well, how about putting up a wireless Web page?  Or using RealAudio?
: ( That would be sort of bizarre, I admit. :-)
:
: - Rich
:
Rich has got a point.  Anything that is done on the internet can
be done with tcp/ip on packet though abit slower I will admit :)  But
that only encourages people to speed up the network by either buying
faster equipment or making faster equipment.  Keep in mind these aren't
the only reasons, I will let you think up some of the possibilities.

TTYL,
Mike
:
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
Date: 27 Aug 1996 22:07:05 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Christopher K. Greenhalgh <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I run a Kenwood 451a on 9.6k 24 hours a day. Some will claim this radio
>is inadequate for 9.6k operation, and I have not had it on any test equipment
,
>but it runs flawlesly with my Kantronics 9612 on both, the 9.6k repeater, and
>keyboard-to-keyboard.

Well, it isn't exactly 'flawless'...

>The only downside is I have to run a 250ms TXDELAY thru the repeater, as the
>PLL (of course) "sweeps" a little when switching from the TX freq, to the RX
>freq...and vice versa.

Oh, you've got a huge PLL settling delay.  That *is* a flaw in 9k6
operation.  250mS?  I won't use a radio that requires that much
TXD on 1k2.  The problem is that a radio with that much delay
contributes significantly to hidden transmitter syndrome, *even on
a duplex repeater*.  There's a huge window from the time you
activate PTT until your radio starts spewing a carrier, which
invites other stations to collide with you.

Also, the receiver recovery time means that you'll probably miss
rapid replies, they'll timeout and retry before you get the
frame.  This won't happen if other stations are running similarly
long TXDs, but then you're really throwing away the 9k6 advantage
(a 256 byte frame doesn't take much more than 250mS to send; so
a TXD of 250mS represents a loss of 50% of potential throughput).

>Other than that...I like it very much, and it works well.

Um, save up your cash (under $150 for a clean Mitrek and rocks) and get
a radio that switches in 50mS (or less) and you (and all the others on
the same channel) will be much happier.

--
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Oujesky)
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Subject: Re: Thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:56:30 GMT
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>>I am thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner

>>I have been told the following units are quite nice:

>>   Uniden BC3000xlt
>>   ICOM R1
>>   AOR 2700


Currently I have PRO-26, AR2700, and AR8000 handheld scanners.  At the
street price of around $200, I'd suggest the AR2700 as a best buy.
While the RF and audio isn't quite up to the '43's, it's not that bad
either.  The two features I prefer over the '43 is the attenuation by
channel (on all three models) and the computer interface to dump and
load the frequencies.  I do find the keyboard operation of the 2700
quite cumbersome for a scanner.  It's virtually impossible to link in
additional banks while drive.

My two cents worth.





From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Wei)
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Subject: GLONASS???
Date: 27 Aug 1996 23:29:52 GMT
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Hello there,

I'm kinda wondering if anyone know any detail about RUSSIAN's GLONASS?  I only
know it is Russian's version of GPS and its transmission (Thankfully) are not
coded like GPS..... anyone got any more info on those stuff???

===========================================================
David Wei              E-Mail Address: [e-mail]
                                       [e-mail]

Running under am486DX4-120 with the POWER of OS/2 Warp.
========================Team  OS/2=========================
F-22's note to fighters on the "other" side:
You can hide, but you can't run.... :)
===========================================================



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Grenness)
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Subject: PACTOR Protocol
Date: 28 Aug 1996 01:43:36 GMT
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Hi, can anyone point me to where I'd find info re the PACTOR protocol.
I have info on AX.25 and SITOR protocol structures and want to write some
homebrew code for decoding PACTOR.

tia, Paul G.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott\, G.R. \,  Cundiff)
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Subject: Re: Some PBBS SYSOPS
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Burt Fisher wrote:
>> AA0NN sent me a message that he was deleting my message because he did
>> not like the subject title about what makes a loser. Why are some SYSOPS
>> Tin Gods? They are little wimpy men that are nothing in their everyday
>> life that become Tin Gods here on packet.
>
Steve Wolf replied...
>Get over it.  There are a whole bunch of us out here who agree with
>AAONN.  The Internet is a much better vehicle for such nonsense.  Keep
>it on Usenet and you can flame to your heart's content.  You can even
>send such messages as you did to groups like rec.radio.amateur.homebrew.

Good reply Steve.  Who is trying to control who here?  If someone
tries to control what my BBS transmits by telling me I have to
forward a message I object to they are censoring me.  Now, the FCC
has the authority to tell me what I must transmit (my station
callsign for instance) and what I must not transmit (a message in
a secret code for instance).  Aside from that I control what is
transmitted under my callsign.  When you tell me I must relay a
message from someone else that I find stupid, useless, too long
to be reasonably relayed, or otherwise objectionable you are the
one who is playing "tin god," not me.

In doing this, I am not censoring you.  You can transmit from
your station whatever you please, so long as the government,
which issued your license, doesn't object.  You can send recipes,
FCC Updates, flames, debate bulletins, jokes, whatever.  I am not
censoring you.  Be happy, knock yourself out.  Just don't tell me
I have to relay it for you from my station.  This is a free
country and I have the freedom to refuse to be controlled by you.

See folks, it is easy, once you who is trying to control who!.
73, Scott


G.R. "Scott" Cundiff
Borger, Texas
email: [e-mail]
amateur radio: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott\, G.R. \,  Cundiff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KaGold
Date: 28 Aug 96 02:38:09 GMT
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Kevin Hogg  Wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone help.
>> I purchased KAGOLD as GM0UZJ, now Ive moved back to England, Ive got to
>> drop the GM to G.  Now the software dosent recognise my call G0UZJ.  How
>> do I change it????

Kevin...email the KaGold folks at: [e-mail]

I think there is a charge for changing callsigns, but don't know how much.

Good luck.

73, Scott


G.R. "Scott" Cundiff
Borger, Texas
email: [e-mail]
amateur radio: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:16 1996
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Subject: Re: CORRECTION - RF Calculation
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[e-mail] wrote:


>In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
>writes:

>> For example, the Rrad of a dipole is roughly 50 ohms (would be 73 ohms
>> in free space). At 100 watts, that gives a feedpoint current of 1.414
>> amperes. The magnetic field declines inversely with distance in the
>> near field (not the inverse square as is the case for power). So 1.414/0.16
3
>> = 8.67 meters. That's the near field safe distance from the current node
>> in the antenna for the controlled magnetic field exposure. For the
>> uncontrolled exposure, the minimum safe distance is 19.8 meters. Similarly,

>> for the electric field, the safe distances are the same, but from the
>> antenna voltage nodes (the ends for a dipole) instead of the feedpoint.


>I made an error here. I forgot to include the factor of 2*pi in the
>above figures. That reduces the safe distance for controlled exposure
>to just 1.38 meters, and for uncontrolled exposures to 3.15 meters.
>That's much better.

Although the FCC report and order says nothing about the near field
problem when calculating HF limits, IEEE C95.1 1991 says in a 'note'
to the tables for controlled and uncontrolled that the MPE is the rms
E and H limits given in the tables. Thus, IEEE C95.1 1991 essentially
tells you to use the far field values. In the case of your isotropic
example that uses 100W ERP, E= 1842/f or 61.4V/m and H=16.3/f or
54A/m for controlled exposures. This yields a radius of .89m for E
and .27m for H (whether near or far field). For uncontrolled, E
=823.8/f=27.46 V/m and H=the same as for contolled = .54A/m.
This yields radii of 2m for E field in uncontrolled and the same .27m
for H in uncontrolled.

Note that when doing the power density calculation, f**2 should be
used, not "f". When calculating power density for the 3-30MHz range,
the power density is the same E field 1mW/cm**2 mentioned on the ARRL
website. The H field power density limit is 10000/f**2 or
11.11mW/cm**2 for controlled and uncontrolled. You will obtain the
same radii for E and H using the "S" for E and H (power densities)
column as you do when using the E and H field columns in all cases.

Using the isotropic antenna at 100W ERP, the standard tells you to
stay .89m away from the isotropic antenna in controlled environments
and 2m away from uncontrolled environments. With a real dipole type of
antenna, the hotspots will be the feedpoint (H field) and the
endpoints (E field). Theoreticaly, the distances should not exceed the
worse case example of the isotropic antenna. When adjusting for 1000W
ERP, the radii do not increase by 10 because it is a SQRT
relationship, so the distances are not as high as one might initially
think.

Although the calculation is easiest to make on an isotropic antenna,
I have not been able to find or build a good one ;)

73

KR4AJ



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:17 1996
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:17 1996
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Subject: Re: Thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner
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The Pro-39 is another excellent scanner that can be unblocked for cell.
The mod is more difficult on the Pro-39 than on Bearcats, but the sound
quality is much better.



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Subject: Re: Looking for a mailorder outfit to purchase a handheld scanner
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:37:09 -0500
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Douglas Alexander wrote:
>
> Looking for a good mailorder firm to purchase a handheld scanner from:
>

http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/


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Kenneth E. Harker wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tim
> Gerchmez) wrote:
>
> > On 23 Aug 1996 12:05:57 GMT, Phil Wakely <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > >[e-mail] (Tim Gerchmez) wrote:
> > >>On Wed, 21 Aug 1996 04:46:16 GMT, [e-mail] (Gregg) wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>>Vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh ernyyl bhtug gb trg bhg zber
> > >>>
> > >>>Url!  Jung xvaq bs n penpx vf gung?  :-D
> > >>
> > >>Urururur.. V gubhtug EBG13 jnf bhg bs qngr.. guvf vf gur svefg gvzr
> > >>V'ir frra vg hfrq va dhvgr n juvyr ;)
> > >>
> > >
> > >Jung vf/jnf EBG13 ??
> > >
> >
> > Tvira gung lbh rapbqrq gur nobir, lbh onfvpnyyl nyernql xabj jung vg
> > vf.  Vg'f n fvzcyr Hfrarg rapbqvat zrgubq (sbetbg jurer vg bevtvangrq,
> > fbzrbar ryfr pbhyq cebonoyl gryy lbh).  V unqa'g rire frra vg hfrq
> > orsber hagvy guvf guernq fgnegrq.  Zl arjfernqre (Ntrag .99S) vapyhqrf
> > n EBG13 rapbqre/qrpbqre, fb V'z abg qbvat guvf ol unaq ;)
>
> Gur svefg checbfr V rire fnj EBG-13 hfrq sbe (onpx va 1991 be gurernobhgf)
> jnf gb uvqr rvgure gur chapuyvar bs be na ragver wbxr gung jnf cbgragvnyyl
> bssrafvir be bs n evfdhr angher, cercraqrq jvgu n pyrnegrkg qvfpynvzre, fb
> nf gb nyybj gur vaqvivqhny ernqre gur bcgvba bs jurgure be abg gb ivrj gur
> zngrevny.  V'z fher gurer ner bgure tbbq ernfbaf sbe vg nf jryy.
>
> Nf gb jurer vg bevtvangrq, vg'f n irel fvzcyr Pnrfne pvcure gung'f orra
> nebhaq n ybat juvyr (fvapr ng yrnfg gur qnlf bs Whyvhf Pnrfne) - lbh whfg
> fuvsg rirel yrggre 13 fcnprf va gur nycunorg (jenccvat nebhaq nf
> arprffnel.)  V'z abg pregnva jung "EBG" zrnaf be jurer vg pnzr sebz,
> gubhtu.
>
ROT-13 =>  ROTate 13


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: GRAPES 56K modem , is it dead?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <01bb94b7$05d21280$[e-mail]> "Ron Curry" <
[e-mail]> writes:
>Les,
>I haven't heard anything about the kit either. The problem with the 56k
>modem stuff is it is exceedingly expensive. I've got over $2000 invested in
>just one half duplex link (figure $250-$350 for the modem, $580 for
>transverter, $100 antenna, $125 PI2 card all times 2). If the thing could
>get down to $500-$600 it would be much more attractive. As it is, I doubt
>it if will ever be prolific.
>--
>Ron Curry
>KE6WED

Gee, Ron, I could spend too much for a 1200 baud link too. Lets see,
$1800 for a FT736R, $325 for a PK-232, $150 for a gain colinear dual
band antenna, etc. What? I don't need to spend that much? Darn right,
and neither did you.

My first 56 kb station broke down like this: $225 for the modem kit,
$90 for a Tiny 2 from PacComm without the on-board modem and fitted
with the KISS56 ROM, $165 for a MMT432S transverter, $15 for new
crystals for the transverter (to fit our bandplan), and about another
$15 for some copper pipe to make a J-pole. Total, $510. Many hams have
that much tied up in the voice radio they use for 1200 baud, nevermind
the cost of the TNC or antenna.

Of course I got the modem kit at the Dayton show special price, ordered
the Tiny 2 special, shopped the flea market for the transverter, etc.
Lets look at an all retail approach using the new 56 kb modem. That's
$345 wired and tested, plus $155 for a Down East transverter kit, and
$125 for a PI-2 card. We'll ignore antenna and feedline costs since
they are common to *any* digital RF link. Total $625. Ok, it's more,
but the new modem has more features; synthesized, signal strength
indicator, full duplex bit regenerator, etc, and it is wired and
tested, ready to use. We could push up the cost of the transverter
if we wanted it wired and tested too, and that'd push us up near
$750, but that's still cheaper than your setup. (Hint, you paid
too much for the transverter.)

As Herr Perot would say, "Here's the deal." The new GRAPES modem
is in the same price range with the PK-232 (which has sold scads),
but the 56 kb modem is 47 times faster. The needed transverter is
in the same price range, or cheaper, than most amateur radios
suitable for packet (barring surplus radios like the Micor).
The only added cost over a 1200 baud station is the PI-2 card.
Frankly, that's money well spent, but you could chop up an old
NCR card (available surplus for $25) as your 8530 card instead.

>Les Dittert <[e-mail]> wrote in article
><[e-mail]>...
>> I have not heard anything about the GRAPES 56k modem project lately.
>> They were supposedly  making the new version available in a kit form
>> but I see nothing on their web page.
>>
>> Is this 56Kbaud radio modem project dead ? That would be a shame.

It is not dead. However, there are no more kits, they've all been
sold and no more will be made. All new modems are available only
wired and tested. Both GRAPES and PacComm will be offering them.
I'm told PacComm has 1,000 units in process (they were initially
supposed to be available by Dayton, but got shuffled back in the que
as PacComm shuffled production for another of their products), and
GRAPES should have more on hand soon as well. I played with one of
the first of the new units, it's neat, and currently have one of them
on order for myself. I'll have one of the older modems for sale after
the new one arrives.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] ("Ted Harrison")
Subject: Re: Windows 95 and BPQ
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> did you put the bpqdll.dll onder de system directorie from windows???
> 73 karel

Yes, I have put both bpqdll.dll and bpqcode.386 in the windows\system
directory. BPQ does start up ok, but crashes a few minutes later, taking
the whole system down with it. (It all worked ok under Windows 3.1)


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:22 1996
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Win Program for PK-232
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 02:24:01 -0500
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>
> Hope Chuck sees this.Was looking for a packet only program for the 232
> and Win 95, but I saw no links in his reply.Half his message was gone.
> Would like to try PACKETPET.If you have the links,please forward.
>
> CURT
> [e-mail]
> http://www.netsync.net/users/cdunn

Links to the Visual PacketPeT Web Sight are below...
73 Chuck

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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:27 1996
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From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
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Subject: Re: KaGold
Date: 29 Aug 1996 03:58:02 GMT
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In <4vtjk2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joe
Pardue) writes:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, "J. Miner" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Kevin Hogg - Product Support Department Manager. wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone help.
>>> I purchased KAGOLD as GM0UZJ, now Ive moved back to England, Ive
got to
>>> drop the GM to G.  Now the software dosent recognise my call G0UZJ.
 How
>>> do I change it????
>>
>>That is one of the many problems with KaGold. You will have to spend
>>more money on anther registertion fee to chance your call.  I would
>>contact the author for more information.
>>
>>73 de Jon
>
>
>
>I disagree!!  In June I changed callsign under the FCC Vanity Call
Program.  I
>regained my original callsign.  One telephone call to InterFlex
Systems
>resolved the problem.  They provided me a new registration number
FREE!  And
>they were very cordial in the process.
>
>73 de Joe, K5HLR
>
>
Same here I upgraded in the Spring. One email in the PM to
[e-mail] new serial number in the AM. I lost track of the
serial number and was installing the software on another computer
another email and immediate response. Can't criticize them on this one.


                            73 Jerry KK5YY



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From: Giovanni Mazzola <[e-mail]>
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The best radios for 9k6 I tested and used are Kenwwod TR-851 and Yaesu
FT-736R.

The worst is Kenwood TM-733 ! This latter has a 'dedicated port' ... :-(

Ciao !

Giovanni, IT9XXS


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:28 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Program for MFJ1278
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:20:18 GMT
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[e-mail] (G.F.) wrote:

>Where does one find a good (Windows or Dos) program
>for MFJ 1278 controller?

>=====================
>[e-mail]

I'm using LAN-LINK 2.34 , you will found it on the QRZ! Ham Radio
CD-Rom June 1996,Vol.7

vy 73 de 35fd001 - Karl




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:29 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: RE: GRAPES 56K Modem, is it dead?
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 Hi Ron,

 I don t think the GRAPES modem is dead, but I ve also made comments that
there is an extra 300 dollars fat in the line up to make a 56 KB DSY signal
at 10 to 20 watts.

 I think allot of it is due to the transverter. But, for the money, the
demod should have a coherent/non-coherent mode.

 The higher u go, the more expensive the trasverter approach gets. A better
way to go is with a I/Q radio, at 440 and higher. And these days, there are
even chips to do most of the I/Q radio.

 Does the newver version of the DSY modem have I/Q outputs? If this is so,
there s still hope, with this round of updating. If not, U might be right!


73, Don.

Mailbox : WB9MJN @ N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
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In article <5021fd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wri
tes:
Hello Dana.

>I don't want to argue semantics.  Sure, you can say that your radio
>isn't flawed, it just isn't as good as that Dana Myers says it should
>be, but that's just Dana Myers for you.  If that makes you feel
>better, fine.  The fact is, a TXD of 250mS on 9600 is a flaw, and that
>isn't just my opinion.

I disagree. I just dont agree with your teminology I guess. I would say
that ny setup works flawlessly with its given settings. Now those SETTING
may be "unaceptable" to you (and others), but I was simply answering the
persons question...which is YES...there ARE PLL radio that will work at
9.6k.

BTW, that was the setting for duplex operation. I can run 100ms in simplex.

>Most folks?  Most folks I know are using less than 70mS.  Maybe most
>folks you know are using flawed radios, too.

No...I know of no one on packet that is useing a flawed radio.

>50mS TXD for 9600 baud
>is not a high standard.

That may be true, but the average TXD in my neck of the woods is much higher.

>Well, if everyone in your area is running 250-300mS TXD, I doubt you'll
>see replies quickly enough for your receiver to miss them.  How
>do you actually know your operation has been solid with no retries
>by other stations?

By monitoring the frequency of course.

>You're taking this far too personally.  Did I criticize you?

Did I say you did?   :)

>No.  I
>pointed out some of the problems with using a PLL radio for 9600 baud.

And I answered the guys question which was "...if there are any PLL sets
that are satisfactory?" The answer was yes...and I also added some information
and settings so he could get the whole picture, as not to cloud the issue.

Take care Dana, and thanks for the feedback.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rob Janssen) writ
es:

Hello Rob.

>"I have not tested it but it runs flawlessly".  This is the comment that
>you see from many commercial-FM-transceiver 9k6 users.  Often referring
>to a claim from others that it is inadequate.

>However, please not that the vast majority of people who DID test it, will
>tell you it IS inadequate.

"Inadequate" in what way?

>>The only downside is I have to run a 250ms TXDELAY thru the repeater, as the
>>PLL (of course) "sweeps" a little when switching from the TX freq, to the RX

>>freq...and vice versa.

>That downside would be sufficient for me not to buy it.  And it should
>be for you as well.

Well...I certainly wouldnt pass judgement on others what to buy, but lets not
forget...everyone has to start somewhere.

>You are causing QRM on nearby channels with that sweeping transmitter
>(which is a design problem that plagues ALL Kenwood TM-[2345][34]1
>transceivers), and the long TXDELAY cuts into the efficiency of the
>channel.

With the deviation set correctly (3.0), it does not sweep outside the 5khz
limit, but I agree that "long" TXDs affect channel effeciency.

>You share the channel with everyone else, so you should be considerate.

I run the same TXD as most users on the freq.

>>Other than that...I like it very much, and it works well.

>You have not tested it.  How would you know?

It works well in the regard of solid connects, and no retries with other
stations, and when on the 9.6k repeater, results are the same.

Take care Rob.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:33 1996
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From: Richard Levenberg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Why not a BayPac BP-2M, Why a KPC-3
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:48:18 -0700
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Can anyone who has used both or knows quite a bit about this stuff
tell me what I dont get with a BayPac BP-2M.  It is tiny, uses no
external power source, has lots of features and costs only 70 bucks.

Why would I want a KPC-3 over this unit.  I dont know anything about
packet but a lot about computers and would like to combine my work/hobby
with my hobby(amateur radio).

For packet I am particularly interested in satellite pictures like WeFAX
and learning about TCP\IP over packet.  I am planning on using a packet
controller with an HT and a desktop computer and later a portable computer.

Any info is greatly appreciated.
TIA

[e-mail]
KE6RQD


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:34 1996
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Subject: Re: Motorola 900 Mhz. radios
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In article <[e-mail]>
marty segal <[e-mail]> wrote:

how abt a price?

Oak Harbor, WA   USA
Ham Radio - VE7-LFA/W7
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mikael Martinsson)
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Subject: Radio link in the 70 cm band
Date: 30 Aug 1996 12:39:36 GMT
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Hello,

my name is Michael Martinsson. I'm studying at a  University in Sweden. I
need some help constructing a radiolink. The problem  we deal with is how
to get information from a mobile plattfrom in the see to the University.
The distance should range from about 100-500 m. The link should be
line of sight. The amount of data to be tranfered is fairly low, probably
just data collected from different sensors. It may though be interesting to
transfer pictures taken from a digital camera. The data will be collected
from the sensors and saved in a RAM.

  We have been asked to investigate a couple of possible solutions and
give a couple of proposals. Preferable some professional solution and
some cheaper solution that the students can build by themselves.

 We have been discussing several solutions:

Professional solutions:

* Radio modem

* Tranceivers for amateur radio with possilities for data communication.

* Using the features from GSM. If it's possible to have a GSM telepohone
with a PCMCIA to answer when dialled up and tranfer data.

Other sollutions:

* A transceiver and controller circuit that is easy to connect to a
microprocessor like PIC or HC11. We have a complete solution that we are
very hopefull about. This solution seems very intersting and cheap.


I would like some comments about my suggestions and if you can give me
some other. If you have any advice about the construction or can give me
any name of the products and their price I would be very happy. In the
first step our job is to do an investigation whereby any information is
useful.

I think the band 433,92 MHz is the best for this problem, but if you
have any other comments, please let me know.

Best Regards

Michael Martinsson






From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
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In article <5052ke$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wri
tes:

>>Ignorance is Bliss!!!!  And no excuse for running inadequite radios on
>>the network.

>Isn't that essentially what I said? ;-)
>--
> * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
> * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
> * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *

I would like to offer my apoligies to Rob and Dana for not entering into a new
field with the absolutly best equipment money can buy on the planet.

If that is their definition of "ignorance"...I am guilty.

Take care all.



Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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[e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh) wrote:

>In article <5052ke$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wr
ites:

>>>Ignorance is Bliss!!!!  And no excuse for running inadequite radios on
>>>the network.

>>Isn't that essentially what I said? ;-)
>>--
>> * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
>> * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
>> * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *

>I would like to offer my apoligies to Rob and Dana for not entering into a ne
w
>field with the absolutly best equipment money can buy on the planet.

>If that is their definition of "ignorance"...I am guilty.

>Take care all.

>Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
>Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
>E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
>AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam

Gee, Chris, all this time I thought this was AMATEUR radio.  Sure glad we got
these PRO's to help us out.  I guess I better not tell them I am using a ten
year old radio on 9600 baud packet, I might get reamed too.

73, Jim KH2D




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world, www.hamradio-online.com is now being read in 43 countries around the
globe. And its free, self supported by us and you, our readers who contribute
great feature stories for this online magazine.

If you haven't paid us a visit, please stop on by and have a look around.
There's lots to see - from feature stories all the time, to real-time
propagation conditions, auroral conditions, meteor scatter info, disaster
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jean-Philippe PAULINO)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 230 Kbits Modem
Date: 31 Aug 96 01:10:07 GMT
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        Hi all,

I'm looking for informations about 230 Kbits transmissions, most of Internet
Web give poor descriptions of this technics..... and let place of announce
for sales. Where can I found technical description of this modems, with also
scheme.
Thanks for your help.

73 de F1TMY.


[e-mail]
PAULINO  Jean-Philippe



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Goodness... (was Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?)
Date: 31 Aug 1996 03:06:44 GMT
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In article <507sld$[e-mail]>,
Jim Kehler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh) wrote:
>
>>In article <5052ke$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) w
rites:
>
>>>>Ignorance is Bliss!!!!  And no excuse for running inadequite radios on
>>>>the network.
>
>>>Isn't that essentially what I said? ;-)
>
>>I would like to offer my apoligies to Rob and Dana for not entering into a n
ew
>>field with the absolutly best equipment money can buy on the planet.
>
>>If that is their definition of "ignorance"...I am guilty.
>

>Gee, Chris, all this time I thought this was AMATEUR radio.  Sure glad we got
>these PRO's to help us out.  I guess I better not tell them I am using a ten
>year old radio on 9600 baud packet, I might get reamed too.

Well, Jim, I guess you don't read my posts for the same reason you
don't read Gary Coffman's posts - you might accidently learn something.
However, this doesn't stop you from Drewing, oops, I mean spewing out
comments anyway ;-).

If you'd read my posts, you would have noted that I was explaining
that Greenhalgh's _modern PLL radio_ is not suitable for 9600
baud.  Furthermore, if you'd thought about what I wrote, you'd
discover that many older crystal-controlled radios are suitable
for 9600 baud packet.  In fact, some of the best and most popular
radios at 9600 baud are Motorola Mitreks, most of which are older
than ten years.  Also excellent are Maxars, Maxar 80s and Flexars
(the Flexar I'm currently using for 9600 baud here is from 1980!).

What you apparently did was skip over all the technical content and
home in on Greenhalgh's strawman "not everyone can have the best
radios money can buy" whining.  I never said he needed the best
radio money can buy - I simply pointed out that his PLL radio
in unsuitable for a number of technical reasons.


--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John D. Seney, WD1V,   LeCroy T&M   800.553.2769)
Subject: Ham Radio Software List - Macintosh
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 11:36:36 GMT
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A trip to my home page reveals there are many good files and programs for
amateur radio operators that want to use Mac computers.

<http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v/>

* Ham Radio Test Simulators - where you can go from Novice to Extra Class
practicing the actual tests right on your Mac! Check out the info on the
new NO CODE license or scramble your neurons and learn Morse on the Mac
too!

* Macnet Roster - a virtual "Whos Who" HyperCard stack with more than 700
entries giving the names, addresses, phone numbers, of radio operators
all over the world that are using Macs. Check out their projects and
their passions and put a design on your Mac Radio future when you see
what neat things are being done!

* Mac Ham Radio Software Listing - as the name implies, its "The List" of
the latest - much of it with FTP links so what you see is what you can
get with just a click.

* Ham Radio.FAQ - compiled on a Mac with a lot of links to great Mac FTP
sites for radio, electronic engineering, and similar data.

            John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| [e-mail]
        144 Pepperidge Dr |_|   |_| page [e-mail]
Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| [e-mail]
  voice mail 603.533.3472 | | | | | fax [phone]

                    www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
            Digital Scope.FAQ + Application Notes


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From: [e-mail] (Marcelo Cury - PY1TTO)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for JNOS
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:26:56 GMT
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Hello,
        I am looking for JNOS system.
        Where can I get a copy ?
        Thanks in advance.
        PY1TTO - Marcelo
        [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 06:51:46 1996
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From: "Jose R. Marte A." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Windows 95 and BPQ
Date: 31 Aug 1996 22:22:15 GMT
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Hi,
The right manner is to put on autoexec.w40 is the autoexec of win95
and too add the line you like for BPQ
like as :
cd \bpq
bpqcode
cd \
and copy the files BPQCODE.386 and BPQDLL.DLL into WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory
that's all
!! NOTE: is important you get the vesion 4.08 or 4.08a from G8BPQ
I use some combination under win95
i running Jnos and WinFBB + BPQ under win95
bye i hope this is a help for you
73's
--
Jose R. Marte A.
Packet      : HI8GN@HI8GN.#SDQ.DOM.CAR.NA
AMPRnet  : [e-mail] [44.175.18.69]
EMail         : [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <4udrd1$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4vgitc$[e-mail]>
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In article <4vgitc$[e-mail]> Leland S. Van Koten <vankoten@i
x.netcom.com> writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>       [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>
>>The FCC only found stations breaking the limits when they used ground
>>mounted verticals, open wire fed flattops, and a quarterwave whip
>>on a car.
>
>
>Gary --  Is there a published source for these FCC findings?  Do you know
>what power levels were being used with these types of antennas which caused
>the limits to be exceeded, and the type of emission?  I'm particularly
>interested since my antennas include (and ONLY include) -- you guessed it,
>the exact ones you mentioned.

The full report is on the FCC web site, www.fcc.gov, under the Office
of Engineering and Technology directory. It is available in Abobe PDF
or Wordperfect format. The filename of the PDF file is asd9601.pdf
(it's 148 kb).

>What puzzles me about the categorical exemption for under 50 watts is that
>it applies regardless of frequency, and regardless of emission type.  If it
>is essentially impossible for 49 watts to exceed the limits, even at the
>frequencies for which the limits are the most stringent, and even for an
>emission type with a high duty cycle, then it seems to me that power
>considerably higher than 50 watts would be equally to exceed the limits on
>75 meter SSB, for example -- which is where higher power is most important.
>
>Am I missing something, or is the single limit for the categorical
>exemption as nonsensical as it seems?

The exemption is not because it is categorically safe. The exemption
is political, a result of ARRL lobbying. It was judged too burdensome
on amateurs to make them do the required study on their low power mobile
and handheld radios. Some of them will certainly exceed the exposure
standard, perhaps by substantial margins (especially mobiles using
on-glass antennas). The FCC justified the exemption based on the
*assumption* that their use would be very low duty cycle, and any
exposure would be very transient to any member of the general public.

This assumption may not be warranted in many cases. A 45 watt mobile
using an on-glass antenna can grossly violate the exposure standard
for occupants of the vehicle. If there are children in the vehicle
too young to give informed consent, I'd say that was reckless. OTOH
the FCC study showed that thru-hole roof mounted VHF antennas had
exposures to the occupants of the vehicle well below the standard,
so that's suitable for a categorical exemption.

HTs are more problematic. Whole body exposure for HTs under 7 watts
is generally within the standard. But exposure to particular parts
of the body, something not well addressed in the new FCC rules, could
still exceed the standard by a large margin, especially exposures to
the eyes. The lens of the eye is particularly vulnerable to RF heating
because there are no blood vessels in it to rapidly carry away excess
heat.

I'm concerned by that. I'd suggest that amateurs do the study on
*all* their radio setups, not just the ones running 50 watts and
more, and treat any found out of compliance with a good bit of
caution.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Questions about WARC bands
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <4vgpgb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (zommbee) writes:
>I feel like I just woke up out of a 12 year sleep and the
>world is a very different place!
>
>Can some one please give me the basic rundown of the WARC
>bands, and what the allocations are?  I have a general
>class license.  What segments/modes are in my license class?

Ok, the so-called WARC bands are open to General Class and
above. Here's the mode breakdown.

30m 10.1-10.15 MHz RTTY/data

Note, the 30m band is shared with the international fixed radio
service and amateurs are not permitted to interfere with fixed
service stations.

17m 18.068-18.110 MHz RTTY/data
17m 18.110-18.168 MHz Phone/image

12m 24.89-24.93 MHz RTTY/data
12m 24.93-24.99 MHz Phone/image

There are *no* CW (IE OOK Morse) subbands on HF (only on 50.0-50.1 MHz
and 144.0-144.1 MHz). CW is permitted anywhere on any amateur band, of
course, but is predominantly found in the RTTY/data band segments by
custom. Amateurs of other nations don't necessarily follow US bandplans.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:34 1996
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From: "Donald J. Toman" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Q codes
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 12:53:46 -0700
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Does anyone have a comprehensive list of Q-codes? Real telegrapher's
codes, please. No garbage. Thanks K2KQ


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Did the Family Radio Service die?
Date: 26 Aug 1996 09:08:01 -0700
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[e-mail] (Tim Huster) wrote:

>It would appear that the GMRS repeater would have some problems then.
>If a low power FRS xmitter (462...), 1/2 mile from a site and 5MHZ removed
>from the input of a repeater (467...) could cause problems then the BPBR cans
>of the repeater either aren't tuned correctly, or don't have enough rejection
.
>There may also be signal leakage from poor connections. Anyway, if the low
>power xmitter, 5MHz removed, can cause problems to the repeater, then the
>repeater is probably faulty.

The FRS also has 7 channels in the 467 MHz range. But even knowing
this, should they have interference problems, it would appear that the
repeater needs a bit of work.

>>
>>BABY MONITORS - yep, continuous transmission FRS baby monitors are what
>>Tandy has in store for the FRS. Imaging one of these set up within a
>>half-mile of existing GMRS repeater sites - only 1/2 channel away from
>>our inputs.

(Reply to original poster, not Tim)

Get real. I just got my 1997 RS catalog. It has an FRS radio mabe by
Motorola for $179.99 on page 58. Besides that, it would be an illegal
mode of operation. One-way traffic is for voice paging or calling, not
for monitoring. I'm sure a device like that would never pass
type-certification for FRS. All baby monitors in the new RS catalog
are all 49MHz. Where in the hell are you getting your information?

Rob Neff (N7ORY)



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Finley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: ARRL WRC-99 Survey
Date: 26 Aug 1996 09:33:20 -0600
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I am an ARRL member and I have sent in my questionnaire.

I believe both the questionnaire and the methodology of the survey,
as I understand it, are indeed appropriate.

The survey does cover only one of the issues to be discussed at
WRC-99, but the one it covers is the most divisive and intensely-
debated; thus, a survey on that question alone is useful and
appropriate.

Any useful survey on this topic (the Morse Code requirement) MUST
include amateurs who are not ARRL members. Though ARRL members
constitute only about one-fourth of licensed amateurs, the ARRL
position most likely will be accepted by the FCC and State Department
as representative of at least a majority of amateurs.  The League
has for years considered itself, and been considered by the FCC,
as the voice of amateur radio on regulatory matters. In order to
legitimately act as that voice, this survey must include non-members.

The issue of Morse testing will affect the whole of amateur radio,
not just ARRL members. Many people on both sides of the issue feel
that the decision made at WRC-99 will have a strong effect on the
future of the amateur service. I feel that, by reaching out to
solicit the opinions of all amateurs, not just members, the League
has shown that it recognizes and accepts the responsibility of
acting as a leadership organization and working for the benefit
of the entire amateur service.

73,

Dave Finley, N1IRZ



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (SQ9DXY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham's character
Date: 26 Aug 1996 12:10:30 GMT
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(sorry form my very very very bad english)

!!!SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!

What a fu..ed discussion!!!

I'm a 20 year HAM, and if my local HAMs in Poland
will be lead discussions like this one I won't to become
a HAM!

Well, STOP IT NOW, get smiles on faces and be nice!!!

                        Vy 73 to all!!!



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:41 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: I WOULD LIKE TO BE A MANAGER
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:39:31 -0700
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From: [e-mail]

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Subject: I WOULD LIKE TO BE A MANAGER

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 16:34:56 -0700

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Hello,



My name is Tony Naglieri my call is N1NYD qrh Ware, Ma home telephone is

413-967-7426.  I would like to help out some ham by beening a manager.



Thank You



Tony




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:42 1996
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From: Harry Clinton <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Lightning Protection
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:35:53 -0500
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Lightning protection information for antennas, towers and masts.
E-mail postal address you would like info mailed.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:43 1996
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From: Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Hog Mobile -- any hams doing it?  (not a Joke).
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 20:03:58 -0700
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Interested in contacting Harley Davidson owners who
have successfully installed HF on their HOG.
Interested to learn your antenna / HF configurations.
Also interested in any motorcycle mobile HF nets.

No..this is not April Fools.  Am truly curious.
thanks,
Joe

(1973 Sportster in storage....)
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Amateur Radio:  BV/N0IAT   Taipei TAIWAN Republic of China
        http://www.isite.net.tw/bv1al/e-hist.htm
ex.  7J1AOF (Japan)  YU3/N0IAT (Slovenia)  KA0ZDH (Novice)
Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986.  Comments are mine only.
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:44 1996
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I would appreciate any help concerning my Grundig Yacht Boy 400.  The
Instruction Manual was not included with my set, so I need help setting
the clock.  If anyone who knows how, or could help me find this
information please E-mail me at [e-mail].  I have ordered
one, but there is no telling when, or if it will arrive.  Thanks very
much for any help.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to AC-SSB ??
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 20:45:57 GMT
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ACSB (new acronym, same system) was resurrected in the mid 80's by
Stephens Engineering Associates (SEA), a manufacturer of radio
equipment (known primarily for their marine band stuff).

I don't know what happened to it, just that they were working on it in
the 80's!

Steve
WB7PSD



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:45 1996
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From: Mike Snowden <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: HELP w/ SSB Antenna
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Mike Snowden wrote:
>
> I have two cushcraft 13B2 yagi antenna which I will phase together using
> the factory kit. I have been trying to find out which will be the most
> effective way of mounting the pair. Since I will use them for SSB work,
> I know they must be horizontally polarized. The big question is what is
> the best way to stack them??? Side by side or top and bottom. The books
> do not seem to clear. What will the different effects be for each type of
> mounting? I could really use some help on this. Thanks, Mike K6YPB
>
> [e-mail]



Still looking for some help on this mounting. Thanks again


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
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Subject: Re: CORRECTION - FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>A final note. The standard requires exposures to be averaged
>over a 6 minute period for operators, or a 30 minute period
>for the general public (whose standard exposure levels are
>lesser than for operators). So a station whose peak exposures
>violate the standard may still be Ok if the average exposure
>level is sufficiently lower than the peak. Again this is a
>somewhat *political* decision and doesn't mean it is safe.

Wouldn't a typical case for an amateur set-up be one in which
the result is at least divided by two as a result of the typical
amateur QSO being a 2 way communication with an average
duty cycle being 50%?

Additionally, for general public exposure, it would seem that
most situations would result in even lower exposure levels
because of movement by the "public" through an area
as opposed to sitting in one place.  Granted there may be
some exceptions to that, but I can't think of any at the
moment.

In another post, Clay N4AOX said:
> Hmmm, based on what you say, it seems that other thinkgs being equal a
>low duty cycle mode like Morse OOK CW would be provide a lower exposure
>to operators and the public when averaged over the same amount of time
>than say an FSK mode. In other words Morse code, among other positive
>attributes is more healthy than some of the newer fad modes.  ;-)

That too would improve (i.e. leesen an otherwise high or excessive
value that might be generated by calculation).  As Clay notes,
CW is not a continuous transmission, so a duty cycle for transmit
only can probably be fairly easy to calculate.  On that same
basis, SSB transmissions do not contain the Peak levels
except at certain speech patterns, so some average value
or correction factor would be helpful when calculating SSB
averages.

Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:48 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: ARRL WRC-99 Survey
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 01:49:40 -0500
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Dave Finley <[e-mail]> writes:

>include amateurs who are not ARRL members. Though ARRL members
>constitute only about one-fourth of licensed amateurs, the ARRL

You say ARRL represents only 1/4 of licensed amateurs. Actually, at least half
,
maybe more, of the "licensed hams" possess no equipment and are not on the air
.
They (pardon the cliche) couldn't care less. Of the hams who are active, on th
e
air, mult-band and multi-mode, I would say that the overwhelming vast majority
are ARRL members.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Wolken)
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Subject: Re: Thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner
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[e-mail] (Douglas Alexander) wrote:

>I am thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner

>I have been told the following units are quite nice:

>   Uniden BC3000xlt
>   ICOM R1
>   AOR 2700

>I would like to get some feedback on the quality and capabilities of these
>or other recommended units before I purchase.

>Please email feedback to [e-mail]

>--
>[e-mail]
>--

>Douglas Alexander
>Florida Power & Light
>Turkey Point Nuclear Plant
>Nuclear Operations Department

>--
>Pardon me,
>I am from the 24th century,
>and I'm heading back as soon as
>Doc Brown fixes the Flux Capacitor!


I've owned probably 40 different handheld scanners in the last five
years and there is no doubt in my mind that none of the above is the
correct answer.

If you can find a pro-43 at a reasonable price grab it.  The later
ones cannot be unblocked  for cellular and I've never owned one of
them so I can't tell you much about them but the earlier ones (don't
ask me dates)  have the best audio, intermod rejection, image
rejection, and ergonomics of anything that I've ever used.  I've
always kept at least one even though I've bought and sold many.

Dr. Electrode
a.k.a.  Larry Wolken N3OJD
voice   [phone]



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Gregg ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >
: >After deciphering "If you can read this, you really ought to get out
: >more," I decided the effort greatly outweighed the rewards!

: Jeff, you're using the built-in newsreader in the Netcruiser software.
: It's crap.  Try using Free Agent -- and, if you like it, you can buy
: Agent -- and you can do ROT13 with a couple of mouse clicks.  Much
: more importantly, you can also do most of your Usenet news stuff
: offline.

Or, if you use 'tin' as the newsreader, you can do so by simply pressing
a lower case d key while in read mode.

Bill


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:51 1996
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From: [e-mail](Anthony Severdia)
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Subject: Re: Icom R-7000
Date: 27 Aug 1996 05:06:45 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> Tom Kutz <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Hi;
>I have an Icom R-7000 that I don't think works above 1 Ghz.
>I thought that I should be able to hear the GPS signals on
>1575.42 Mhz.  I can't hear anything.  In fact I never hear any
>signals above 1 Ghz.  Works fine below.
>
>Any help??
>
>Tom
>WA0LRE
>[e-mail]
>

    Tom, GPS is spread spectrum technology so I don't think you
will "hear" anything.  I can't be certain for I've never tried it.
In addition, the signals are sub-microvolt strength.

    -=Tony=-    W6ANV


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:52 1996
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From: Pyrodex <[e-mail]>
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Subject: computer DTMF tones
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Hi everyone!

I'm pretty sure that there is better groups for this but here is my
problem:

A new reapeater controller that I just got requires DTMF tones at faster
then one per a second to prgram it. ( I think it is in there so people
don't attempt to hack it ;-) What I need is a program that would send
out the DTMF tones from my laptop computer.

So I'm wondering if anybody has a chunk of C code they could send me so
I could modify it for my use. I've tried it in basic but I have nut come
up with a way of doing with inder a second delay. I know C++ for dos so
that would be perfealble.

Also if there is a program already written were I can give it Hertz
tones and it will generate DTMF's that is fine too.

Thanks for your time

Jim KB0THN

P.S. Please e-mail reply as i have an unreliable news feed.

Jim Jefferson KB0THN
Check out my website at:
http://www.luminet.net/~cjeffers/       There is a swap area that some
of you might be interested it


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
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Subject: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen): Multi-Band Mobile VHS equipment
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--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Multi-Band Mobile VHS equipment
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:25:18 EDT
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Hello all

I am starting to plan for the first new equipment to be placed
in Ford  Club Van.
Something that can be used on the road  and maybe pulled
out and used in the new Ham Shack.
Planning my return to Ham Radio after 35 years.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.

I've been looking for information on e-mail,Internet addresses,
or Telephone numbers of all the Ham Type magazines. So
far all I have is QST. Libraries and local stores don't carry any.

Hope to hear from you and you...

73  john

St. John  of Wood Dale =======================================
John Chasteen     ( Near the center of the Universe...)
1 Thes 5:16          ( Near Chicago, Illinois.. USA )
voice 630-860-2580          [e-mail]
=========================================================

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From: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
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Subject: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen): Crystal FT-241
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St. John  of Wood Dale =======================================
John Chasteen     ( Near the center of the Universe...)
1 Thes 5:16          ( Near Chicago, Illinois.. USA )
voice 630-860-2580          [e-mail]
=========================================================

--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
To: Multiple recipients of list <[e-mail]>
Subject: Crystal FT-241
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:24:27 -0500 (CDT)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>



>From:[e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
>To:  BA

>I have some FT-243 chan 271 (5700KHz) through Chan 388 (8625 KHz).
>
>How can they be utilized?
>I am not trying to sell any since they are 25 Khz apart.
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>john
>
>St. John  of Wood Dale =======================================
>John Chasteen     ( Near the center of the Universe...)
>1 Thes 5:16          ( Near Chicago, Illinois.. USA )
>voice 630-860-2580          [e-mail]
>

--------- End forwarded message ----------


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From: [e-mail] (Kay Fule)
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Subject: Sale: Icom Z1A
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:28:14 GMT
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Selling my Icom Z-1A with detachable face plate. Brand new, I just got
it a month ago, but have gotten a car rig, so am departing with the
HT. I have the tone squelch, pocket beep, Rechargable battery case,
Ni-Cd batter, leather case, antenna, origianl docs, and box.
 I bought it for $450.00, I'm selling it for $350.00 OBO. Not a
scratch on it, I have the origianl box and everything.


Thanks




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:55 1996
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From: Paul Knight <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: TS120S / IC2SRA
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 09:32:33 -0700
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Prices lowered:

Kenwood TS120S station; 80-10M SSB/CW rig (no WARC), 200W PEP input,
digital display, w/YK88C CW filter.  Rig is in excellent condition.
Includes:

SP120 external speaker
MB100 mounting bracket
Generic hand mic
Owners and Service manuals

$300 plus shipping, for the whole station.
---------------------------------------

IC2SRA 2M HT; full 2M coverage + 29-905 MHz RX (includes cellular) w/ 2
2M ducks, 2 scanner ducks, BP84 1000 ma/hr pack, AC charger, leather
case, manual, and box.
$225, plus shipping

Please drop me a note if you're interested.
--
Thanks!

Paul Knight WD8DKY
[e-mail]

-or-

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:56 1996
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Subject: Portable VHF mark ALINCO model DJ180E
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A friend of mine is a radio amateur and he has got this transceiver
radio:
        RTX mark ALINCO
        ELECTRONICS INC. JAPAN
        Portable VHF
        model DJ180E

He has got two questions about this radio:
1) How can he modify his radio to extend the band from 144/146 MHz to
130/170 MHz?
2) Can he receive the "manual for use" of this radio? (A photocopy of
the manual is acceptable too!)

For details, please conctact me through my personal e-mail address.
Thank you very much!

Paolo Tealdi - Italy
E-mail: [e-mail]
WWW: http://www.polito.it/~s76511/index.html


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (EMTP4355)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Q codes
Date: 27 Aug 1996 11:09:42 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Donald J. Toman" <[e-mail]>
writes:

>Does anyone have a comprehensive list of Q-codes? Real telegrapher's
>codes, please. No garbage. Thanks K2KQ
>
>

If any one can I would like a copy too.

Joseph K. Murphy, EMT-P
KF4KEK
[e-mail]


It's a free country (USA) and I have my own ideas on every thing whether
you agree or not


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From: James Lee Tabor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ART phone number
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:37:38 -0500
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To: "Mark P. Fratta" <[e-mail]>

Mark P. Fratta wrote:
>
> Does anyone have the phone number for Amateur Radio Trader?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark N3VMR

us & canada 800-774-2623  fax [phone]
international 615-484-5137  fax [phone]

73,
Jim
--
CAPMan HF Propagation Prediction & System Analysis Software
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/KU5S


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:04:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
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In <[e-mail]> Dr Tony Farrow <[e-mail]> writes:

>Hi all,

>Can anyone recommend a brand of 70cm radio from any of the major
>ham-radio manufacturers that is really suitable for 9600 baud packet?  I
>wonder if there are any PLL sets that are satisfactory?

Use an all-mode (FM, SSB) transceiver.  Most of them are quite suitable,
even when it is not listed as such in the ads.  Of course you will have
to make a modification in the latter case.
Best is to use a transceiver with a fast transmit<->receive switching
time, e.g. the ICOM IC-475.
When that is over your budget, stick with a Tekk.  It performs equally
or better.

Rob
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen       [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:00 1996
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From: John Nelson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Modern digital versus SSB and Morse (was Re: Commercial CW use)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:05:52 -0800
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Zack Widup wrote:

> So for those who wish to see how many novels per hour they can send via
> CLOVER, well - have fun. I still enjoy reading about your results. But I
> still like those slower forms of communication, CW and speech. They are
> also fun in this hobby, to me at least. And to a few others ... I've had
> several one-hour CW and SSB ragchews recently.
>

Sorry Zack, but for the privilege of using CW and speech, you must
demonstrate proficiency in the setup and use of CLOVER? What? You say you'll
never use it? Doesn't matter, for it is the one true "mode that get's through
when nothing else will".

Do try to get the point here. Most of us "un-washed no-coders" agree with you
that CW use may be entertaining, charming, even useful, but we are NOT
forcing you to demonstrate proficiency in something ELSE to use it.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:01 1996
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From: Gary Kaminski <garyk>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Renewing License
Date: 27 Aug 1996 15:35:49 GMT
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Hi;

I've been out of touch with my ham activities for awhile.  I just noticed
that my Technician license is going to expire in 9/96.  What is the
procedure for getting it renewed?  I don't expect to be silent forever, so
I do not want to loose it.
garyk

--
Gary Kaminski                    [e-mail]
Analogy, Inc.
9205 SW Gemini Drive
Beaverton  OR  97005            [phone]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garry Hobart)
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Subject: Re: Icom R-7000
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:40:30 GMT
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On Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:55:09 -0700, Tom Kutz <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Hi;
>I have an Icom R-7000 that I don't think works above 1 Ghz.
>I thought that I should be able to hear the GPS signals on
>1575.42 Mhz.  I can't hear anything.  In fact I never hear any
>signals above 1 Ghz.  Works fine below.
>
>Any help??
>
>Tom
>WA0LRE
>[e-mail]
>

It is probably your coax. For freqs above 1 Ghz, you really need to
use Hardline. Anything less, is just too lossy. The best coax,
will work well for shorter runs. If you cut the length of coax in
half, you will also cut the loss in half.

Example;
(for 100' of coax)
Cable   loss/db@1Ghz            Percent Loss (approx.)
RG-58   22.0db                  99.3%
9913            4.5db                   64%     (Belden)
LDF-4   2.34db                  42%             (Andrew)(Hardline)

Garry
----------------------------------------------
Principles aren't of much account anyway, except at election time.
After that you hang them up to let them season.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: ARRL WRC-99 Survey
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:44:06 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Dave Finley <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>include amateurs who are not ARRL members. Though ARRL members
>>constitute only about one-fourth of licensed amateurs, the ARRL
>
>You say ARRL represents only 1/4 of licensed amateurs. Actually, at least hal
f,
>maybe more, of the "licensed hams" possess no equipment and are not on the ai
r.
>They (pardon the cliche) couldn't care less. Of the hams who are active, on t
he
>air, mult-band and multi-mode, I would say that the overwhelming vast majorit
y
>are ARRL members.

I'll buy the first half. Internet proves that theory. But the second half, I
don't think so...... why not take a two part pole, right here. Two questions:

1. If you are a ham, do you own a radio ?

2. If you do own a radio, are you an ARRL member ?

Make it multiple choice (YES or NO) to avoid 'discussion'.
Oh, and don't forget a lot of ARRL members are not U.S.  hams.......

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:04 1996
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From: Paul Knight <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS/TR: Uniden HR2600 10M all-mode rig
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Hi, everyone!  I have a Uniden HR2600 10M rig available for sale/
trade.  It is in excellent condition, and includes the mic, manual,
power cord, mounting bracket, and box.  It does not have the
chipswitch mod installed.  $125, firm, including shipping.

Items of interest for a trade:
------------------------------
Older Kenwood 2M or 440 HT (e.g., TR2500/2600/3500, etc.)
Heath HW8 (unmodified)
Argo 505 or other QRP rig
Hand-held scanner (e.g., BC100XLT, etc.)

Drop me a note if interested.

--
Thanks!

Paul Knight WD8DKY
[e-mail]

-or-

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: OLDE FAHRTZ HAMS (Was: Looking for a...)
Date: 27 Aug 1996 16:18:36 GMT
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Ken Bessler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Drew you should have seen all the flame-mail I got from this guy over
>this.  All sorts of rantings about how much of an asset HE is to the
usenet,
>etc. He said absolutly nothing to justify the uncalled for remark he
made to
>the originator of this thread who simply needed advice.
>P.S. The other day my 2 meter rig (HW2036) blew it's final amp just when

>needed it to talk to the wife (KB0PWD).....Thank god we had CB's!
>Ken Bessler KG0WX, KBOJ-6870, "Metro" (ch 1), Wichita, KS

>If I click my heels three times do I go across the street?


One thing that I have never understood...have you ever noticed that the
hams who bellyache about CB'ers the loudest seem to be
"YE OLDE FAHRTZ?"  That's right, those same "ancient operators" who are
also complaining the loudest about the no-code techs and begging the ARRL
to maintain their tough stance against reducing or eliminating the Morse
code requirements for HF access.

They tell the CB'ers to "get legal, get a ham ticket!"  Then, when they
do, they tell them that they're not "real hams" because they refuse to
waste time learning an antiquated communications system of dits and dahs.

Go figure!

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KADF-6895
 KF4DDM





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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:47:57 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> Dr Tony Farrow <[e-mail]>
 writes:

>Hi all,

>Can anyone recommend a brand of 70cm radio from any of the major
>ham-radio manufacturers that is really suitable for 9600 baud packet?  I
>wonder if there are any PLL sets that are satisfactory?

>Thanks & Cheers,

>Tony vk2tjf

Hi Tony.

I run a Kenwood 451a on 9.6k 24 hours a day. Some will claim this radio
is inadequate for 9.6k operation, and I have not had it on any test equipment,
but it runs flawlesly with my Kantronics 9612 on both, the 9.6k repeater, and
keyboard-to-keyboard.

The only downside is I have to run a 250ms TXDELAY thru the repeater, as the
PLL (of course) "sweeps" a little when switching from the TX freq, to the RX
freq...and vice versa.

Other than that...I like it very much, and it works well.

Take care.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:11 1996
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From: Clay N4AOX <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Morse Code More Healthy (was  Re: CORRECTION- FCC....)
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:21:46 -0400
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Gary Coffman wrote:
>

> And of course, none of these systems have a pulse rate in the
> 5-15 pps range which has been linked (in vitro) to cellular
> mutations considered indicators of carcinogenic activity when
> seen while testing chemical agents and drugs,

Of course, this ignores the RF stimulation of leukocyte
activity in the region of disturbance which could serve to
counteract the mutations, provided the stimulus continues
over a reasonable period of time.

>                                                             18 WPM
> Morse), which has been shown to induce behavioral changes in animals
> (both planaria and mice) in the lab. I wouldn't call it safer.
>

This is another good argument for getting that code speed up to 20 WPM.

Unfortunately, in the real world, it seems things are more equal than
one might first assume.  Most digital ops I know tend to run digital
power just below rig melt down levels.  This is, as you say, probably
because of the lack of use of CLOVER or other automatic 6 dB gain
modes, or perhaps just shoddy equipment in general.  On the other hand,
because of the robust and efficient nature of OOK CW, many operators
are challenged to operate QRP which further enhances the health aspects
of that mode, not only reducing the duty cycle but peak amplitude as well.


73,
Clay N4AOX


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:14 1996
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From: Hank Blackstock <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hog Mobile -- any hams doing it?  (not a Joke).
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Tovar wrote:
>
> > I don't think the state of the art of noise cancellation mics
> > has made this possible yet. :-)
>
> We have someone regularly using a local repeater "motorcycle mobile"
> and his audio is just fine.  If i suspect that if you're mouth is an
> inch or so from the mike, it'll win easily over the noise if it's
> not to badly in the wind.  I would bet one may even be able to
> homebrew something, using ordinary headphones and a cheap electret
> microphone available at Radio Shack.  I removed one of the earphones
> and made a switch that i can actuate with both hands on the wheel,
> so it's both 'street legal' in California and reasonable safe to
> operate.  The project was written up in QST about the time I got my
> license, and i'll either give an exact date or a write-up of my
> version of the project upon request.  The hard part is probably
> making it rugged enough that it doesn't need aperiodic maintenance.
>
>

How about a throat mike. I picked on up at Okla. Comm Center (now out of
business). I forget the brand name but they made models for different
ham talkies. I used it both for bicycle mobile and airborne mobile (my
twin engine airplane is an extremly noisey enviroment). It worked quite
well and I am sure it would work for motorcycle mobile.

73 Hank WA5JRH


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In article <4vcp5p$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>The solution to waste is quit using bureaus and mail direct to the
>intended party.

Gary, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would find that financially
impossible.

>Those who don't take PRIDE in their contact's ALSO do not take PRIDE
>in the hobby and it shows by their comments, attitude and usually
>discourtesy on the bands.

I personally don't think that lack of pride in a typical "UR 59, qsl
via the buro" constitutes lack of pride for the hobby.  Frankly I
find the whole "UR 59" - type qso a pain in the butt.  What ever
happened to conversation?  Now there is a courtesy - taking
some time to talk to someone and to get to know them.  Those
are the types of qso's I take pride in and will gladly QSL.

Alan VE3XAG

======================================================
   on the Internet:                        on packet:
   [e-mail]           ve3xag@va3bbs#scon.on.can.na
======================================================



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:17 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Bill Sohl wrote:

> Mere use of CW by some percent of hams no longer
> constitutes a valid reason to mandateall hams on
> HF must learn that mode.

In QST, October 1995, Vol. 79, No. 10, page 9, it says,

"From surveys, we know that 48% of the ARRL members in the United States
already have access to the Internet, either directly or via an on-line
service.  Comparing this figure to the popularity of the various
over-the-air communications modes, it would rank behind FM (79% of active
ARRL members use it), SSB (also 79%), and CW (54%) - but ahead of packet
(40%) and far ahead of any other mode."

That "some percent" is pretty high Bill.  There are more ARRL members
operating CW than there are on the Internet and CW's popularity ranks
third only after SSB and FM.

Maybe you didn't see the editorial, but do you not listen to the CW bands?
Don't you go out on field day? Haven't you ever listed on the low ends of
the bands on CW contest weekends? How about the 30 meter band?  Have you
never listened there?  It would appear you haven't.

CW is alive, well, and thriving.  In fact, the demand for QRP CW
transceivers alone has almost single handedly revived the kit industry.
Just open your eyes and ears and it'll become apparent.

This has nothing to do with the so-called debate about Morse testing, but
it does have to do with correcting your implication that there is little
CW activity when in fact there is.  You may believe that's the case, or
perhaps you might even WISH it were, but quite simply, it isn't.

Tony Stalls, K4KYO
ARRL Life Member






From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Frohne)
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to AC-SSB ??
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:20:44 -0700
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A couple of my engineering students and I picked up the frequency
companding idea and implemented it on the TI DSK DSP evaluation board.  It
was written up
in QEX a while back.  The editors allowed me to put a copy on my web page.  Yo
u
can see it at http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/qex/qex-art.html.  We didn't implemen
t
the amplitude compandor, but that could be added in.  Our testing indicated th
at
it was a feasible system, but I doubt it will ever catch on, as there are bett
er
ways of reducing the spectrum with DSP.

--
Rob Frohne
E.F. Cross School of Engineering
Walla Walla College
204 S. College Ave.
College Place, WA 99324

[e-mail]
http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
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In article <4vv6h2$[e-mail]>,
Rob Neff <[e-mail]> wrote:
>With radios Gary, there are no bullets, no blunt force trauma, no
>observable means of harm what-so-ever at amateur levels, other than
>possible rf burns. So, what part of prove it do you not understand?

Umm..Rob, come over here. I have this 1000 W microwave transmitter. Would
you like to stand in front of the dish when I transmit?

>Rob Neff (N7ORY)

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
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Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
Date: 27 Aug 1996 22:07:05 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Christopher K. Greenhalgh <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I run a Kenwood 451a on 9.6k 24 hours a day. Some will claim this radio
>is inadequate for 9.6k operation, and I have not had it on any test equipment
,
>but it runs flawlesly with my Kantronics 9612 on both, the 9.6k repeater, and
>keyboard-to-keyboard.

Well, it isn't exactly 'flawless'...

>The only downside is I have to run a 250ms TXDELAY thru the repeater, as the
>PLL (of course) "sweeps" a little when switching from the TX freq, to the RX
>freq...and vice versa.

Oh, you've got a huge PLL settling delay.  That *is* a flaw in 9k6
operation.  250mS?  I won't use a radio that requires that much
TXD on 1k2.  The problem is that a radio with that much delay
contributes significantly to hidden transmitter syndrome, *even on
a duplex repeater*.  There's a huge window from the time you
activate PTT until your radio starts spewing a carrier, which
invites other stations to collide with you.

Also, the receiver recovery time means that you'll probably miss
rapid replies, they'll timeout and retry before you get the
frame.  This won't happen if other stations are running similarly
long TXDs, but then you're really throwing away the 9k6 advantage
(a 256 byte frame doesn't take much more than 250mS to send; so
a TXD of 250mS represents a loss of 50% of potential throughput).

>Other than that...I like it very much, and it works well.

Um, save up your cash (under $150 for a clean Mitrek and rocks) and get
a radio that switches in 50mS (or less) and you (and all the others on
the same channel) will be much happier.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich McAllister)
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In article <[e-mail]> Cecil Moore <[e-mail].c
om> writes:

> although everyone agreed that the sound of a Harley engine
> coming over the repeater is pretty neat. :-)

I thought sending music over the ham bands was against regs.

--
Rich McAllister, KO6CL, [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Oujesky)
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Subject: Re: Thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:56:30 GMT
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>>I am thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner

>>I have been told the following units are quite nice:

>>   Uniden BC3000xlt
>>   ICOM R1
>>   AOR 2700


Currently I have PRO-26, AR2700, and AR8000 handheld scanners.  At the
street price of around $200, I'd suggest the AR2700 as a best buy.
While the RF and audio isn't quite up to the '43's, it's not that bad
either.  The two features I prefer over the '43 is the attenuation by
channel (on all three models) and the computer interface to dump and
load the frequencies.  I do find the keyboard operation of the 2700
quite cumbersome for a scanner.  It's virtually impossible to link in
additional banks while drive.

My two cents worth.





From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:22 1996
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From: Steve Wolf <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Saturn Owners
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 23:28:51 -0400
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> I have a 1996 Saturn SL2 automatic.  I have recently installed a 1/4 wl
> antenna for 2m on the trunklid (center) and have noticed a radiated noise
> problem, on 146.52 and other freqs.

I also have the same noise.  If you fix it I will send you a BIG attaboy!

In the Cleveland area we have ratchet jaw QSOs cloggin up the calling
channel so it isn't used much.  No incentive to fix the noise here as
52 isn't a calling frequency.

--
73,
Steve
        Internet:  [e-mail]
        Amateur Radio:  no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
        MSYS Mail List:  [e-mail] ('info' for title)


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
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Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 23:32:29 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Bill Sohl wrote:

>> Mere use of CW by some percent of hams no longer
>> constitutes a valid reason to mandateall hams on
>> HF must learn that mode.

>In QST, October 1995, Vol. 79, No. 10, page 9, it says,

>"From surveys, we know that 48% of the ARRL members in the United States
>already have access to the Internet, either directly or via an on-line
>service.  Comparing this figure to the popularity of the various
>over-the-air communications modes, it would rank behind FM (79% of active
>ARRL members use it), SSB (also 79%), and CW (54%) - but ahead of packet
>(40%) and far ahead of any other mode."

>That "some percent" is pretty high Bill.  There are more ARRL members
>operating CW than there are on the Internet and CW's popularity ranks
>third only after SSB and FM.

That some percent is not mean that 54% of all QSOs are CW as anyone
can see.  If someone made one CW QSO a year they'd answer
in the affirmative.  All the above states is that slightly more than
1/2 of ACTIVE ARRL members operate some degree of CW.
In any case, it alone still doesn't serve as hjustification to mandate
that anyone needs to learn CW.  If someone wants to hold CW
QSOs, they'll learn it on their own without the forced requirement.

>Maybe you didn't see the editorial, but do you not listen to the CW bands?
>Don't you go out on field day? Haven't you ever listed on the low ends of
>the bands on CW contest weekends? How about the 30 meter band?  Have you
>never listened there?  It would appear you haven't.

These comments don't support CW testing, they support the use of
CW... something that I and most anti-testors have no problem with at
all.

>CW is alive, well, and thriving.  In fact, the demand for QRP CW
>transceivers alone has almost single handedly revived the kit industry.
>Just open your eyes and ears and it'll become apparent.

Then why must the skill be mandated as a test element.  If it has
continued interest it'll thrive on its own.

>This has nothing to do with the so-called debate about Morse testing, but
>it does have to do with correcting your implication that there is little
>CW activity when in fact there is.  You may believe that's the case, or
>perhaps you might even WISH it were, but quite simply, it isn't.

I never said there was LITTLE activity.

Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:25 1996
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From: Matt Werner <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Saturn Owners
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:12:18 -0500
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Philip Carter wrote:
>
> I have a 1996 Saturn SL2 automatic.  I have recently installed a 1/4 wl
> antenna for 2m on the trunklid (center) and have noticed a radiated noise
> problem, on 146.52 and other freqs.

[some deleted]

> The noise is not present in the acc position or without the engine being
> started, so I have ruled out such things as the ABS or airbag system.

I have no idea what it could be here, but I would be careful before
ruling
out such things as ABS.  I own a 96 Chevy S-10, and the manual says that
the ABS goes through an initial check, and it also goes through various
checks as you are driving (I seem to recall something about a check
after
you pass 8MPH for instance).  The way it sounded, the system is
constantly
being checked, not just on start-up...

73 - Matt



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
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Subject: Re: Anonymous poster caught: J. Mackey (was: Re: CB repeaters)
Date: 28 Aug 1996 02:41:31 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
John--Mackey--KA0SSF, using the phoney address [e-mail], wrote:
>Jeffrey Herman wrote:

>> P.S. Any licensed ham can become a rptr owner - there's no virture
>> in that - and practically any transceiver can be made into a crude
>> rptr. Thus, you hold no special significance in the amateur community; but
>> now among the internet community you are scum for not having the courage
>> to use your real address to accompany your remarks.

>hahaha, my "crude" repeaters made from "any transceiver" as you indicate
>are General Electric Mastr Series Base Station/Repeater commercial
>equipment.  They are high performance receivers with GaAsFET
>pre-amps & continous duty transmitters all using pas/reject duplexers.

Hi again, Johnboy,
Let's see, I believe you might not have closely read what I wrote:
"... practically any xcvr can be made into a crude rptr"  - that was
supposed to indicate that those proud folks who brag of owning a rptr
don't necessarily possess any special skills.

>By the way you are an IDIOT because I do se my name & callsign
>on my internet entries.

Big lie, Johnny. Your disguised posts under the phoney address
[e-mail] contained no name nor callsign. Not nice to
swear at folks and not have the guts to sign your name or use
a valid address. But after having brought that to the net's
attention a week or two ago I see you're now including a name
and call. Good boy. You learn quickly! But the address is still
phoney. Bad boy.

>IF you were really a ham you would know that all you need is a callsign
>to get someone's address so you don't need to liist an address in
>every entry.

But Johnster, you first need to provide a callsign. When you called
Burt some filthy names you didn't provide a name nor call nor
valid address. Bad boy. Shame on you.

>Sounds like you are bootlegging on ham radio.

Now Johnjohn, your batteries are still in backwards. You bootlegged
on Netnews and got caught. Bad boy.

By the way, I've gotten some emails regarding you. Is there any truth
to you having started out as a jammer, and when you were finally kicked
off all the Portland rptrs, you had to install your own in order to
have folks to talk to? Very very bad boy.

73 from lovely Hawaii,
Jeff KH2PZ / KH6


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: OLDE FAHRTZ HAMS (Was: Looking for a...)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 03:22:24 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:


>One thing that I have never understood...have you ever noticed that the
>hams who bellyache about CB'ers the loudest seem to be
>"YE OLDE FAHRTZ?"  That's right, those same "ancient operators" who are
>also complaining the loudest about the no-code techs and begging the ARRL
>to maintain their tough stance against reducing or eliminating the Morse
>code requirements for HF access.

>They tell the CB'ers to "get legal, get a ham ticket!"  Then, when they
>do, they tell them that they're not "real hams" because they refuse to
>waste time learning an antiquated communications system of dits and dahs.

>Go figure!

>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
> KADF-6895
> KF4DDM

Or they tell them they are not real hams because they don't own a radio,
like you..............................







From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:28 1996
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Subject: Re: CORRECTION - RF Calculation
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[e-mail] wrote:


>In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
>writes:

>> For example, the Rrad of a dipole is roughly 50 ohms (would be 73 ohms
>> in free space). At 100 watts, that gives a feedpoint current of 1.414
>> amperes. The magnetic field declines inversely with distance in the
>> near field (not the inverse square as is the case for power). So 1.414/0.16
3
>> = 8.67 meters. That's the near field safe distance from the current node
>> in the antenna for the controlled magnetic field exposure. For the
>> uncontrolled exposure, the minimum safe distance is 19.8 meters. Similarly,

>> for the electric field, the safe distances are the same, but from the
>> antenna voltage nodes (the ends for a dipole) instead of the feedpoint.


>I made an error here. I forgot to include the factor of 2*pi in the
>above figures. That reduces the safe distance for controlled exposure
>to just 1.38 meters, and for uncontrolled exposures to 3.15 meters.
>That's much better.

Although the FCC report and order says nothing about the near field
problem when calculating HF limits, IEEE C95.1 1991 says in a 'note'
to the tables for controlled and uncontrolled that the MPE is the rms
E and H limits given in the tables. Thus, IEEE C95.1 1991 essentially
tells you to use the far field values. In the case of your isotropic
example that uses 100W ERP, E= 1842/f or 61.4V/m and H=16.3/f or
54A/m for controlled exposures. This yields a radius of .89m for E
and .27m for H (whether near or far field). For uncontrolled, E
=823.8/f=27.46 V/m and H=the same as for contolled = .54A/m.
This yields radii of 2m for E field in uncontrolled and the same .27m
for H in uncontrolled.

Note that when doing the power density calculation, f**2 should be
used, not "f". When calculating power density for the 3-30MHz range,
the power density is the same E field 1mW/cm**2 mentioned on the ARRL
website. The H field power density limit is 10000/f**2 or
11.11mW/cm**2 for controlled and uncontrolled. You will obtain the
same radii for E and H using the "S" for E and H (power densities)
column as you do when using the E and H field columns in all cases.

Using the isotropic antenna at 100W ERP, the standard tells you to
stay .89m away from the isotropic antenna in controlled environments
and 2m away from uncontrolled environments. With a real dipole type of
antenna, the hotspots will be the feedpoint (H field) and the
endpoints (E field). Theoreticaly, the distances should not exceed the
worse case example of the isotropic antenna. When adjusting for 1000W
ERP, the radii do not increase by 10 because it is a SQRT
relationship, so the distances are not as high as one might initially
think.

Although the calculation is easiest to make on an isotropic antenna,
I have not been able to find or build a good one ;)

73

KR4AJ



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:29 1996
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From: wb4yuc
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Subject: Re: Saturn Owners
Date: 28 Aug 1996 06:02:10 -0700
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In article <[e-mail]>, Matt says...
>
>Philip Carter wrote:
>>
>> I have a 1996 Saturn SL2 automatic.  I have recently installed a 1/4 wl
>> antenna for 2m on the trunklid (center) and have noticed a radiated noise
>> problem, on 146.52 and other freqs.
>
>

I recently did a temporary install on a Saturn. I had only spark plug
noise with the antenna mounted on top of the car.

73,

Bruce, WB4YUC


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From: "John Sandor" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Thinking of purchasing a handheld scanner
Date: 28 Aug 1996 06:04:41 GMT
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The Pro-39 is another excellent scanner that can be unblocked for cell.
The mod is more difficult on the Pro-39 than on Bearcats, but the sound
quality is much better.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:31 1996
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Subject: Pulse-Amplitude Modulation?
Date: 28 Aug 1996 06:23:47 GMT
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Does anyone have any experience with pulse-amplitude modulation?

If so, please e-mail me.

Thanks,

    -Dale          KA5EVK



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
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Subject: Re: Ton O' Radios Special Event
Date: 28 Aug 1996 07:23:11 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
George Eldridge <[e-mail]> wrote:
>--MIME Multi-part separator
>
>The Xerox Amateur Radio (XAR) club WD6CZH will be running the "Ton O'
>Radios" special event station this weekend.  Our goal is to work over
>2,000 pounds of radios.  The exchange is your callsign and the weight of
>the transmitter and receiver (or transceiver) used to make the contact.
>
Try to work "Boatanchor Bob" NA4G!  He has enough heavy radios for you to
reach your goal with one contact!

73,

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
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Subject: Re: [e-mail] (John T Chasteen): Crystal FT-241
Date: 28 Aug 1996 07:27:53 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
John T Chasteen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Subject: Crystal FT-241
>Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:24:27 -0500 (CDT)
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>
>
>
>>From:[e-mail] (John T Chasteen)
>>To:  BA
>
>>I have some FT-243 chan 271 (5700KHz) through Chan 388 (8625 KHz).
>>
>>How can they be utilized?
>>I am not trying to sell any since they are 25 Khz apart.
>>
John:

This set is from the BC-1225 and may be in the CS-137 case.  You can use
the 40m crystals and the 8 meg rocks are good in an older AM 2m rig like
the Gonset Communicator series.

Hope this helps!

73,

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
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Subject: Re: Amateur Radio Newsline Financial problems
Date: 28 Aug 1996 07:34:03 -0400
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In article <500gfq$[e-mail]>, LHC007 <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Since becoming a Ham I have also been a member and supporter of the ARRL.
>The Newsline seems to me to be just the kind of Amatuer community service
>that I would exepct the ARRL to recognize and actively support.  The
>Twelve thousand dollars that would keep the newsline in operation for a
>FULL YEAR cannot be that large an amount to the ARRL.

Since becoming a ham and reading Newsline posts on USENET I've never seen
any posting from them that did not say they were in financial straits.
Now, I don't doubt that it costs a lot to operate the service ($1000/mo
is a lot of money though) but if people are not willing to pay for the
service they should just close it down, period, and save us from repeated
cries of hardship and needing cash.

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Neff)
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Subject: Re: FCC Ruling Will Require Some Hams to File Environmental Impact Reports
Date: 28 Aug 1996 08:23:00 -0700
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[e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman) wrote:

>In article <4vv6h2$[e-mail]>,
>Rob Neff <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>With radios Gary, there are no bullets, no blunt force trauma, no
>>observable means of harm what-so-ever at amateur levels, other than
>>possible rf burns. So, what part of prove it do you not understand?

>Umm..Rob, come over here. I have this 1000 W microwave transmitter. Would
>you like to stand in front of the dish when I transmit?

Re-read the post Jerry. I'm sure you'll notice the line that says
"other than possible rf burns."

Rob Neff (N7ORY)



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:35 1996
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From: Steven Giron <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Inter-Agency Comm. lacking
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>
> This makes the case for an interagency frequency where all agencies
> involved in a chase or crime spree that goes across jurisdictions can be
> in instant contact with each other and easily share information....IN
> most cases, a dispatcher from agency A will call Agency B..Sometimes, a
> helicopter will come up on the frequency used by the other agency.
>
> John


Here in California where pursuits are as common as routine traffic stops,
there are a pair of frequencies used called CLEMARS. It stands for
California Law Enforment Mutual Aid Radio System. It is VHF and there is
daily traffic on the frequencies.

Steve


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:36 1996
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From: Dick Flanagan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Amateur Radio Newsline Financial problems
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:06:26 -0700
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To: LHC007 <[e-mail]>

LHC007 wrote:
>
> Since becoming a Ham I have also been a member and supporter of the ARRL.
> The Newsline seems to me to be just the kind of Amatuer community service
> that I would exepct the ARRL to recognize and actively support.

The ARRL does "recognize and actively support" this kind of community service
through the ARRL Letter which it publishes weekly.  I gain lots of information
from both publications.  I would hope we could find a way to support both.
--
Dick Flanagan, W6OLD - ([e-mail]) - Minden, Nevada


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:40 1996
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From: Jim Conn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Modern digital versus SSB and Morse (was Re: Commercial CW use)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:29:39 -0700
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Fine ... multiplex your "CW" bits in with the others and rag-chew all
> you want ... just don't force me to do it ... I'd rather use my bits in
> other ways.
>
> If we don't use our spectrum more efficiently, we'll lose it to those
> who will invent more efficient, productive used for it.
>
> Carl - wa6vse
> [e-mail]

Last time I checked, no one is forcing anyone to USE CW - just learn
it.  I stand by my original opinion that Amateur testing should
encompass the hobby from A to Z.  That means that RTTY, CLOVER, PACTOR,
and CW all should be included, even if perhaps the former have a
smaller following than CW.

Besides, the VHF and UHF bands, were CW is less frequently used, are
the ones being threatened, not the HF bands.  I don't consider the
threat to the VHF & UHF areas to be a valid argument against CW
testing, since those areas are already open to those with a no-code
license.


73,

Jim - AD4VL




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:43 1996
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From: John Mackey/KA0SSF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Blake causing trouble now?? was:Re: Could it be true? Is this possible?
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 09:48:32 -0700
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Blake Bowers wrote:

> I simply posted a message about a rather famous gaff you made one day
> with your postings, when you posted a rather embarressing episode you
> had when you tore up some repeater equipment, that you had been
> accused of not being competent enough to handle.

But you won't back up your statement with facts like what repeater equipment
I tore up, where, belonging to who, type of equipment, & how I was not
competent.  You ran your mouth but now that you have been asked for facts
you stay quiet.  If it was so famous you would not need to talk about it
because every one would know.  You are telling stories without facts
to boost yourself & your friend Cheek.  You won't even post this message
you are referring to.

> If need be, I could post it here for all to interpet any way they
> want, I kept a copy.

I've asked you to twice now but you won't.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:44 1996
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Subject: Re: Looking for a mailorder outfit to purchase a handheld scanner
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:37:09 -0500
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Douglas Alexander wrote:
>
> Looking for a good mailorder firm to purchase a handheld scanner from:
>

http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Duckworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Modern digital versus SSB and Morse (was Re: Commercial CW use)
Date: 28 Aug 1996 10:54:34 -0400
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As a gate, CW/morse, is as universally fair(or unfair) as one can get.

But, if one agrees that some sort of gate is needed then what better
than morse. There is even a work around in place for those who can not
learn it.

IMHO ones respect for a priviledge is proportional to the work required
to obtain it.


-bob
--
Bob Duckworth Consulting, 960 Ralph McGill Blvd. Atlanta GA 30306-4447
bobs' address is [e-mail]    404-888-0389(V) 892-2301(FAX)
Buy Sell Trade Surplus Computer Electronics Datacom Telecom since 1981.
Fax or email your list for a fast cash offer. Watch for listserv catalog.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:46 1996
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From: Ben Johnson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Equipment Insurance
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:12:31 -0400
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I would appreciate information (both pro & con) on Hamsure and ARRL's
insurance carrier regarding how easy these companies settled claims etc.

I am a fairly new ham and looking to start insuring my equipment and
would like to make sure I get the best value. Thanks in advance for your
input.

Ben Johnson
KF4JEB


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From: Charles Hoffman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to AC-SSB ??
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Interesting.  I will take a look.  Incidentally, I have a VBC Model 3000
Baseband Transeiver if anyone is interested, with book; make offer.

Rob Frohne wrote:
>
> A couple of my engineering students and I picked up the frequency
> companding idea and implemented it on the TI DSK DSP evaluation board.  It
> was written up
> in QEX a while back.  The editors allowed me to put a copy on my web page.
You
> can see it at http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/qex/qex-art.html.  We didn't implem
ent
> the amplitude compandor, but that could be added in.  Our testing indicated
that
> it was a feasible system, but I doubt it will ever catch on, as there are be
tter
> ways of reducing the spectrum with DSP.
>
> --
> Rob Frohne
> E.F. Cross School of Engineering
> Walla Walla College
> 204 S. College Ave.
> College Place, WA 99324
>
> [e-mail]
> http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
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Subject: Re: Anonymous poster caught: J. Mackey (was: Re: CB repeaters)
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Jeffrey Herman ([e-mail]) writes:



 ====== snip ======

I had to cut out the interchange.  Were you paying attention Jeff?  Are
you still convinced that all your contributions are postitive and
constructive?  Let it go.

--


  Bye for now, Frank Sved (VE3GID) at [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
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Subject: Re: Icom R-7000
Date: 28 Aug 1996 16:43:59 GMT
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>On Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:55:09 -0700, Tom Kutz <[e-mail]>
>>I have an Icom R-7000 that I don't think works above 1 Ghz.

There is a relay in the R7000 that switches in a 1 GHz downconverter
when you select that frequency range.

In fact, there are a LOT of relays in the R7000.  I have had problems
with them becoming intermittent.

If your 1 GHz relay were to have dirty contacts, you would not be able
to use that frequency range.  Cleaning them is difficult, but sometimes
you can get the contacts to clean up by cycling the relay a number of
times.

I think GPS signals are too wide (they are spread spectrum) for you to
hear anything, but you should be able to hear digital crud from
aircraft transponders around 1100 MHz if your converter is working.
And there's other stuff up there too, even in the ham band.
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marty Albert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL WRC-99 Survey
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:25:40 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Dave Finley <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>include amateurs who are not ARRL members. Though ARRL members
>>constitute only about one-fourth of licensed amateurs, the ARRL
>
>You say ARRL represents only 1/4 of licensed amateurs. Actually, at least hal
f,
>maybe more, of the "licensed hams" possess no equipment and are not on the ai
r.
>They (pardon the cliche) couldn't care less. Of the hams who are active, on t
he
>air, mult-band and multi-mode, I would say that the overwhelming vast majorit
y
>are ARRL members.

I would like to see your figures that support either of your claims.

I suspect that there are none.



Marty Albert - [e-mail]
Amateur Radio: KC6UFM@KC6UFM.#SEMO.MO.USA.NOAM

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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Fredrik Elversson)
Newsgroups: aus.radio,in.ham-radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rpi.union.ham-radio,su.org.ham-radio
Subject: EME-sceds wanted for clubstation SK7AX in JO77DS !
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 18:41:36 GMT
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Hello,

Clubstation SK7AX is located in JO77DS (Sweden). We would like to have
EME-sceds. We have 4 x 15el and 800 Watts (not so many watts for EME,
but we will have more soon!)

Sceds to:

Packet: SM7UGO @ SM7UGO.F.SWE.EU
E-mail: [e-mail]

Packet: SM7UGE @ SM7UGE.F.SWE.EU
E-mail: [e-mail]

73 de Fred SM7UGE




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
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Date: 28 Aug 1996 19:17:08 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
: On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Bill Sohl wrote:
:
: > Mere use of CW by some percent of hams no longer
: > constitutes a valid reason to mandateall hams on
: > HF must learn that mode.
[stuff deleted]
:
: CW is alive, well, and thriving.  In fact, the demand for QRP CW
: transceivers alone has almost single handedly revived the kit industry.
: Just open your eyes and ears and it'll become apparent.
:
: This has nothing to do with the so-called debate about Morse testing, but
: it does have to do with correcting your implication that there is little
: CW activity when in fact there is.  You may believe that's the case, or
: perhaps you might even WISH it were, but quite simply, it isn't.

If someone wants to operate CW then let them, the proposed changes does
not ban CW, it's only talking about dropping the requirement. I know the
code but I havn't used it in years and have no plans on using it again (except
maybe if I get in a 'nostalgic' mood and pretend it's the 1800's again).
If someone wants some kind of requirement for this hobby then how about
a voice and operating procedure test before people are allowed to get on
using voice,  ever listen to HF SSB or FM repeaters lately?  CW is disciplined
by it's inefficiency and requiring very short phrases and abbreviations to
communicate reliably. Voice (and packet) doesn't have that problem, and that's
where we need to teach people to use proper operating procedures to make
this hobby better.  Keeping a CW requirement is only going to keep people
away from amateur radio.

: Tony Stalls, K4KYO
: ARRL Life Member

Ron N8FOW    [e-mail]       http://www.n8fow.ampr.org/~n8fow



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:53 1996
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From: "Thomas L. Gaines, Sr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur Radio Clipart
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 01:54:43 -0700
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Where can I get Amateur Radio Clipart for letterhead and envelopes on the
Net?

Any help would be appreciated.

73, Tom N5ISE
--
Thomas L. Gaines, Sr.
Amateur Radio Callsign  N5ISE
703 Jones Street
Picayune, MS  39466-5239
Coordinates  30*31' North  89*42'West


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:54 1996
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From: "Doug C." <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Motorola Equipment
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 03:33:30 -0500
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To: Ryan Tourge <[e-mail]>

Sure!   In Winnipeg there are several hams using 6-ch. Motorola
HT600s(Radius P200) and 8/16 ch. Motorola Radius GP300s, for both 2m,
and 70cm bands.  In fact with the right models in the VHF band there are
EMS and FF hams in rural areas who have programmed (and are licenced
for) the Province-wide EMS common freq, and/or Provincial Fire freq.s as
well as 2m simplex/repeater freq.   These responders have found that
these radios are great for use when you are "on-call" in a rural area.
 And as they are type-accepted for commercial use they can be lic. for
the ham bandsas well.   In fact there is one volunteer agency that
has Motorola Radius GM300 as vehicle radios, with 2m programmed in, but
these channels are restricted to lic. AROs.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Doug Crighton, EMA-1(D)/EMT-I -- Amateur Radio: VE4DUG
BTLS Instructor                  Manitoba EMS Volunteer

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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]  (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio Newsline Financial problems
Date: 29 Aug 1996 03:43:27 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, Dick Flanagan <[e-mail]>
 writes:
>LHC007 wrote:
>> Since becoming a Ham I have also been a member and supporter of the ARRL.
>> The Newsline seems to me to be just the kind of Amatuer community service
>> that I would exepct the ARRL to recognize and actively support.

the arrl has it's own "newsletter". originally, the newsletter was the "HR Rep
ort"
from Ham Radio Magazine..various changes occur and it's the Westlink Report.
that finally ceased publication some time ago. the amateur radio newsline was
started as a local bulletin announcement similar to the bulletins from W1AW an
d
has moved into the phone distribution and electronic distribution you see toda
y.

in any case, the ARRL is in competition with the other mags and newsletters in
a fashion...

>The ARRL does "recognize and actively support" this kind of community service
>through the ARRL Letter which it publishes weekly.  I gain lots of informatio
n

weekly? used to be biweekly and now it's monthly here....

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:56 1996
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From: [e-mail]  (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: ARRL "Representation" on code and other issues
Date: 29 Aug 1996 03:47:17 GMT
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In <500oei$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>The point is that the ARRL and its membership (even if you count the
>majority who really just "subscribe to QST" as "members") are a very
>modest minority of the licensed ham radio operators.  Actually, I think
>they've got a lot of huevos passing themselves off as the "spokesman for
>the ham community at large" ...

well, they're certainly the largest coordinated front...

>It's damned time that they considered the views of non-members (and even
>non-ham wannabes) in formulating "policy" that ends up being presented
>to the FCC as "the will of the nation's hams."

how about the non-members signing on en masse to get their people into
positions of power in the ARRL? the non-hams are out of luck until they
get licensed but they can be associate (non-voting) members.

obviously, you need to review the Battle of Code Free...the ARRL didn't get
their way on that one and it was a grass roots effort.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:57 1996
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From: [e-mail]  (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: 29 Aug 1996 03:48:10 GMT
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In <500h1j$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>I could if I wanted to, but I don't ('cause I don't want to).
>Also, I presently live in an apartment complex, and HF antennae would be
>difficult (but not an insurmountable obstacle ... just not worth the

no club stations around?

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bryan Rogers)
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Subject: Re: Equipment Insurance
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 06:42:14 GMT
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On Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:12:31 -0400, Ben Johnson <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>I would appreciate information (both pro & con) on Hamsure and ARRL's
>insurance carrier regarding how easy these companies settled claims etc.
>
>I am a fairly new ham and looking to start insuring my equipment and
>would like to make sure I get the best value. Thanks in advance for your
>input.
>
>Ben Johnson
>KF4JEB


        I lost an HT that was insured under the ARRL insurance
carrier.  They were very prompt.  I mailed them a copy of the police
report and they got the check right back out for the insured amount
minus the $50 deductible.

         I would highly recommend them.

Bryan Rogers, AE4PT


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:05:59 1996
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From: Giovanni Mazzola <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 08:12:50 +0200
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The best radios for 9k6 I tested and used are Kenwwod TR-851 and Yaesu
FT-736R.

The worst is Kenwood TM-733 ! This latter has a 'dedicated port' ... :-(

Ciao !

Giovanni, IT9XXS


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"Cliff-s" <[e-mail]> wrote:



I agree.

Rob Neff (N7ORY)





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From: John Nelson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
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Michael P. Deignan wrote:
>

>
> Code test elimination supporters have not addressed the issue
> of the "theoretical verses practical" aspect of our amateur
> examinations, nor have they designed a reasonable alternative
> to the existing code test that fulfills the means test of being
> non-subjective, uncomplicated, easy-to-administer, and
> related to amateur radio.

As a "practical examination" related to amateur radio, CW prociciency is
unfit. It has nothing to do with radio operation, per se. Indeed, Morse can
be communicated without any RF activity whatsoever. Arguing that it is
related to amateur radio and is therefore a good test is as absurd as arguing
that operating a TCP/IP router is a good test. Both CAN be done via radio,
but neither IS radio operation.

Try again.


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From: burt lang <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to AC-SSB ??
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:57:32 -0700
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Isn't AC-SSB the mode now used commercially in the new 220-222
commercial land mobile band?

Burt



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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Saturn Owners
Date: 29 Aug 1996 12:52:01 GMT
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Steve Wolf ([e-mail]) writes:
>> I have no idea what it could be here, but I would be careful before
>> ruling
>> out such things as ABS.  I own a 96 Chevy S-10, and the manual says that
>
> Matt's note is valid.  However, I don't have ABS and I have the noise.
> That will clinch that system.
>
> --
> 73,
> Steve
>       Internet:  [e-mail]
>       Amateur Radio:  no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
>       MSYS Mail List:  [e-mail] ('info' for title)


CQ has an interesting article this month on engine noise.  They say that
many cars are made up of "composite material" (Garbage) and lack a good
gnd plane.  That's #1.

#2, check your exhaust system for proper grounding.  Lots of time they are
hung from rubber dampners and the only contact is thru the exhaust
manifold donut.  Highly resistive.  mine is at 226,000 ohms.  Put a gnd
strap on it.

Just a few thoughts, this guy said his noise went down from S7 to S2.

bye for now.

--


  Bye for now, Frank Sved (VE3GID) at [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
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In article <5021fd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wri
tes:
Hello Dana.

>I don't want to argue semantics.  Sure, you can say that your radio
>isn't flawed, it just isn't as good as that Dana Myers says it should
>be, but that's just Dana Myers for you.  If that makes you feel
>better, fine.  The fact is, a TXD of 250mS on 9600 is a flaw, and that
>isn't just my opinion.

I disagree. I just dont agree with your teminology I guess. I would say
that ny setup works flawlessly with its given settings. Now those SETTING
may be "unaceptable" to you (and others), but I was simply answering the
persons question...which is YES...there ARE PLL radio that will work at
9.6k.

BTW, that was the setting for duplex operation. I can run 100ms in simplex.

>Most folks?  Most folks I know are using less than 70mS.  Maybe most
>folks you know are using flawed radios, too.

No...I know of no one on packet that is useing a flawed radio.

>50mS TXD for 9600 baud
>is not a high standard.

That may be true, but the average TXD in my neck of the woods is much higher.

>Well, if everyone in your area is running 250-300mS TXD, I doubt you'll
>see replies quickly enough for your receiver to miss them.  How
>do you actually know your operation has been solid with no retries
>by other stations?

By monitoring the frequency of course.

>You're taking this far too personally.  Did I criticize you?

Did I say you did?   :)

>No.  I
>pointed out some of the problems with using a PLL radio for 9600 baud.

And I answered the guys question which was "...if there are any PLL sets
that are satisfactory?" The answer was yes...and I also added some information
and settings so he could get the whole picture, as not to cloud the issue.

Take care Dana, and thanks for the feedback.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Rob Janssen) writ
es:

Hello Rob.

>"I have not tested it but it runs flawlessly".  This is the comment that
>you see from many commercial-FM-transceiver 9k6 users.  Often referring
>to a claim from others that it is inadequate.

>However, please not that the vast majority of people who DID test it, will
>tell you it IS inadequate.

"Inadequate" in what way?

>>The only downside is I have to run a 250ms TXDELAY thru the repeater, as the
>>PLL (of course) "sweeps" a little when switching from the TX freq, to the RX

>>freq...and vice versa.

>That downside would be sufficient for me not to buy it.  And it should
>be for you as well.

Well...I certainly wouldnt pass judgement on others what to buy, but lets not
forget...everyone has to start somewhere.

>You are causing QRM on nearby channels with that sweeping transmitter
>(which is a design problem that plagues ALL Kenwood TM-[2345][34]1
>transceivers), and the long TXDELAY cuts into the efficiency of the
>channel.

With the deviation set correctly (3.0), it does not sweep outside the 5khz
limit, but I agree that "long" TXDs affect channel effeciency.

>You share the channel with everyone else, so you should be considerate.

I run the same TXD as most users on the freq.

>>Other than that...I like it very much, and it works well.

>You have not tested it.  How would you know?

It works well in the regard of solid connects, and no retries with other
stations, and when on the 9.6k repeater, results are the same.

Take care Rob.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:07 1996
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From: [e-mail](Robert Lewis)
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Subject: amp schematic
Date: 29 Aug 1996 15:46:47 GMT
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Howdy again.  Anyone seen a downloadable schematic for an HF amp?

Robert Lewis
N5ODJ


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: Lightning Protection
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:11:49 GMT
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Harry Clinton <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Lightning protection information for antennas, towers and masts.
>E-mail postal address you would like info mailed.

Thanks anyway. I have all the lightning protection I need. My wife goes
to mass every Sunday.

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kostas Aslanidis)
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Subject: MS1307
Date: 29 Aug 1996 16:16:54 GMT
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I am looking for more information about the device MS1307.
                                                   ======

Does anyone know the Manufacturer of this device???
                     ============

If you have more information please let me know.


Thanks

Kostas (for DL1RU)



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From: John Nelson <[e-mail]>
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Michael P. Deignan wrote:

> >As a "practical examination" related to amateur radio, CW prociciency is
> >unfit. It has nothing to do with radio operation, per se.
>
> If 38% of all HF amateurs operate CW, and CW continues to be a popular
> mode with foreign amateurs (ever wonder why all those "rare dx" stations
> always seem in the lower 25kc of the bands -- are they just "snobs" who
> only want to talk to "extras"? Why don't they move up to the general
> portion of the band?), then a CW proficieny test remains a logical and
> necessary "practical" examination.

Pay attention, won't you. It was suggested that, for lack of anything better
(easy to implement in VE setting, etc.) CW was an adequate "practical
examination" of radio operating expertise.

Again, CW has nothing to do with radio operation, per se. One may operate a
station without CW. Period.

> >that operating a TCP/IP router is a good test. Both CAN be done via radio,
> >but neither IS radio operation.
>
> If you intend to operate TCP/IP on radio, then a practical examination with
> TCP/IP routers might be appropriate.

And if I don't want to operate TCP/IP on radio, then I DON'T have to
demonstrate proficiency in its use. Fine, I can live with that. But you can
NOT have it both ways, Michael. The same logic now applies to CW. If I'm not
going to use it, I don't have to demonstrate proficiency in it.


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Date: 30 Aug 1996 05:04:24 GMT
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In <502ken$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (david l. t
hompson) writes:

>It is the only organization recognized by the FCC, the US Government,
>and ITU to represent amateur radio!
>

I know that ... that's what I'm asying is wrong, since ARRL members are
only a modest minority of hams.

>
>I think non-member views are being considered.  Anyone can fillout the
>survey and return it to ARRL.  Directors certainly listen to
>non-members.
>

Only "members" get QST (where the survey was printed) ...
supposedly some non-members were mailed a copy, but I've not heard of
any proof of that ...


Carl - wa6vse
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: 30 Aug 1996 07:33:30 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
        John Nelson  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>And if I don't want to operate TCP/IP on radio, then I DON'T have to
>demonstrate proficiency in its use. Fine, I can live with that. But you can
>NOT have it both ways, Michael. The same logic now applies to CW. If I'm not
>going to use it, I don't have to demonstrate proficiency in it.

Lessee... "I don't intend to build my own radio gear, so why do I need to
be tested on all that gear-building theory?" Yup, same logic applies.

"Just give me a radio and let me yack. That's all I want."

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: 30 Aug 1996 07:38:24 -0400
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In article <505u57$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>No, for the most part they're not snobs ... they're simply taking
>advantage of the fact that their governments have not created sub-bands
>for eletists like our has and that those segments are less crowded.

Really? Well I'll tell ya, I hear a lot of 5WPM code in the Extra CW
DX windows. Not.

Funny you should mention crowding. Are you now admitting that crowding
on HF is a problem?

>They operate there and say "listening on ____ kHz" so they don't get
>buried in their own pileups by the US lids who can pound CW but don't
>know squat about operating courtesy or proper proceedures. Or those
>whose speech processors and "linears" are 50kHz wide with intermods to
>the umpteenth order ...

I usually don't run into many US hams running speech processors in the
lower 25kc of the band.


MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
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Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
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In article <505p1d$[e-mail]>, Bill Newkirk <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Unfortunately, we use a volunteer-examiner system where people
>>volunteer to give amateur radio examinations. The examination
>>process needs to be relatively uncomplicated and free of anything
>>that might be "subjective" on the part of the examiner. At this
>>point, the multiple-choice examination and code examination fit
>>those requirements.
>>
>
>mike, before the FCC got out of the exam biz, they quit using CW trained
>examiners to give the test. the test proctor put the tape in the player, turn
ed
>on the PA and played it. passed out the fill in the blank tests. graded it.

Yes... And.... What's your point? Seems obvious that you'd want to be able
to use the lowest-common-denominator of person to administer your test.
Someone with enough brains to handle the administrative chore yet doesn't
have any specialty knowledge that means you have to pay them more than
minimum wage. This is why we don't see very many MDs scooping ice cream
at the local snack shop.

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:18 1996
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From: Rob Roy Jones <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Wiring new house...
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Greetings,

My wife and I are having a house built and it's almost at
the point where they can begin sheetrock.  My question is
this.  My shack will be in the study on the second floor.
I have the opportunity to run coax from the study to the
outside.  I'm going to do my best to keep it from other
wiring.  I also was planning on putting a plate on the
outside wall with an SO-239 (?) connector so I could
just hook up whatever I decided to string up as an
antenna.

Has anyone done this before and am I going on the right
track?  We've installed Kool-Ply (tm) in out attack so
I don't really think an attic antenna is in order.

I'd appreciate any feedback on this.  Thanks!

-Rob

***********************************************
Rob Jones   1-512-823-6837               KC5KSE
IBM-Austin       Distributed Storage Management



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:19 1996
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On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Burt Fisher wrote:

> Ryan Tourge wrote:
> >
> > I have not been radioactive for awhile, and was wondering what baud rates
> > are packet TNC's using now?
>
> This is ham radio.
> Nothing changed.
>

You're a perfect example of that.



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:19 1996
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From:     [e-mail]
Subject: FCC: Sell or Rent?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: FCC Auction
Sender: [e-mail] (Philip Wheatley)
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 14:54:49 GMT
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Not the perfect group I know, but sometimes seems knowledgeable anyway.

Question: On the FCC frequency auctions, when a company `buys' a segment of fr
equency
do they get it forever?  Or just for a period of years?  If its bought forever
,
could they turn around (like land developers) and subpartion and resell?
So all the $$$ brought in by the FCC auctions a one time thing?

If its a `rental' what keeps (stupid) people who bought, devices using
a part of the spectrum, from using their devices after the `lease' (the compan
y has
on the spectrum) is up?

Can the Government/FCC ever TAKE the frequencies back?  (Through no fault of t
he purchaser)


#include <std_disclaimer.h>

[e-mail]
[phone]
aka KF4EZC


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
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In article <5052ke$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wri
tes:

>>Ignorance is Bliss!!!!  And no excuse for running inadequite radios on
>>the network.

>Isn't that essentially what I said? ;-)
>--
> * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
> * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
> * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *

I would like to offer my apoligies to Rob and Dana for not entering into a new
field with the absolutly best equipment money can buy on the planet.

If that is their definition of "ignorance"...I am guilty.

Take care all.



Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler)
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[e-mail] wrote:

>In <502ken$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (david l.
thompson) writes:

>>It is the only organization recognized by the FCC, the US Government,
>>and ITU to represent amateur radio!
>>

>I know that ... that's what I'm asying is wrong, since ARRL members are
>only a modest minority of hams.

>>
>>I think non-member views are being considered.  Anyone can fillout the
>>survey and return it to ARRL.  Directors certainly listen to
>>non-members.
>>

>Only "members" get QST (where the survey was printed) ...
>supposedly some non-members were mailed a copy, but I've not heard of
>any proof of that ...


>Carl - wa6vse
>[e-mail]


You are apparently unaware that the ARRL is promoting TWO survey's.
One survey (QST) will collect ARRL membership thoughts, the other will
look at the entire group of licensed amateurs. The information from
the  two sources will be for understanding the differences, if any,
between amateurs at large and amateurs are members of ARRL. These data
will be assessed by the WRC-99 Planning Committe the Board.  If you
have questions on how this is being run then contact the committe.
They will be happy to share the information with you.

73  de KN0Z

"KNOW CODE"


Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employe
r.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (George Eldridge)
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Subject: Final Reminder - Ton O' Radios Special Event
Date: 30 Aug 96 15:12:47 GMT
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The Xerox Amateur Radio (XAR) club WD6CZH will be running the "Ton O'
Radios" special event station this weekend.  Our goal is to work over
2,000 pounds of radios.  The exchange is your callsign and the weight of
the transmitter and receiver (or transceiver) used to make the contact.

Time: 1600-2400 UTC
Date: 31-Aug-96
Freq: General portions of the 40M, 20M, and 15M bands
      Novice portion of 10M band
      WD6CZH repeater (near LAX) 449.325- 114.8PL

For a certificate, send a 9x12 inch SASE to XAR, 6940 Bacarro St., Long
Beach, CA 90815-4805


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: THe THe The THe
Date: 30 Aug 1996 15:13:55 GMT
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> What about "the name on this end"?  You hear that a lot too.
>
> And while the subject is being discussed, I'd like to know about
> guys who say "we" when they mean "I."  This gets on my nerves
> more than the thought of someone eschewing ownership of his own
> name.  "We had to go to the dentist yesterday..." sounds like
> some sort of odd problem where the whole family had to go at the
> same time.  But even when I hear this, I'd rather not dwell on
> it; I'm interested in radio as a means of meeting and visiting
> with people and chatting about technical matters, not to teach
> the world about language.  But sometimes it's so tempting to
> ask for clarification: "you said Y'ALL went to the dentist; did
> the whole family come along?"
>
> 73
>
> --
> .........Monty.
> [e-mail]
>
>
Second person plural form is the polite form.  Perhaps these people are
being polite with you but you are hung up on Bertisms.

--


  Bye for now, Frank Sved (VE3GID) at [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:27 1996
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From: Roger Cousineau <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Sept VHF QSO Party
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:27:10 -0700
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Anyone have some experience and/or advice to give to a first timer.  I am
thinking of running as a Rover.

Any advice please post or e-mail

73  VE3BTJ

Roger


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:28 1996
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From: Avatar <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: HELP: Antenna Tuner Design Needed
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 18:46:03 -0700
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Michael Neidich wrote:
>
> Need a schematic/parts list to build a receiving antenna
> tuner/preselector 10-25 MHz, mostly to reject interfering out of band
> signals.  Point me in the right direction if there is a good commercial
> unit, please.
> Mike

Any recommendation would be suspect without the advisor knowing more
about your setup.

1. Does your receiver have a 50 ohm or Hi-Z input?
2. What type of antenna and feedline are you using?
3. Are you adept at building electronics equipment?
4. How much are you willing to spend for a tuner?




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:29 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Contactus Interuptus
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                           Contactus Interuptus


You know who I am talking about. It is the ham that interrupts your
conversation with another ham. The two of you could be in deep dialogue
when along comes this KA1*I*. Does he have anything to add to the conversation
?
Of course not. He just butts in with some inane comment or worse COMMENTS.
He might say "it is a nice day" or he might say "there is a hurricane and
it can go in any direction" (something that is really earth shaking news).

I bet when he was younger he always barged into his parents CLOSED bed
room door and surprised them in the act in order to tell them the sun
came out.

Do you know who I am talking about? I am sure there are many of him.

Burt



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Harold G. Peach, Jr.)
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Subject: Re: Kentucky Ham Busted
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I checked with the Circuit Court Clerk's office today to learn the
outcome of the trial.  She informs me that this case occurred in
Juvenile Court and as such the proceedings are sealed.  She did not
know how the paper learned of the original charges, but indicated that
the outcome of the case would not be made public by their office.
---
Harold
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 22:10:02 GMT
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[e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh) wrote:

>In article <5052ke$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wr
ites:

>>>Ignorance is Bliss!!!!  And no excuse for running inadequite radios on
>>>the network.

>>Isn't that essentially what I said? ;-)
>>--
>> * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
>> * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
>> * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *

>I would like to offer my apoligies to Rob and Dana for not entering into a ne
w
>field with the absolutly best equipment money can buy on the planet.

>If that is their definition of "ignorance"...I am guilty.

>Take care all.

>Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
>Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
>E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
>AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam

Gee, Chris, all this time I thought this was AMATEUR radio.  Sure glad we got
these PRO's to help us out.  I guess I better not tell them I am using a ten
year old radio on 9600 baud packet, I might get reamed too.

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blackshadow)
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Subject: FT-8000 MODS Needed
Date: 30 Aug 1996 22:23:13 GMT
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           Looking for MODS for the FT-8000. RT Systems should be coming
 out with the software for 8000 in September.

      Please Email me any info.

                  Thanks

Rod
N2RVM
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:35 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #179 (for air through 9/6/96)
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 _/_/_/_/_/     _/     _/     _/_/_/     _/_/_/         _/_/_/
    _/         _/     _/       _/      _/    _/        _/    _/
   _/ his     _/ _/  _/ eek   _/ n    _/_/_/_/ mateur _/_/_/_/ adio
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 _/         _/     _/     _/_/_/    _/    _/        _/     _/
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #179 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 6-Sep:
-
1.   Japan's New JAS-2/Fuji-3 Satellite Gets AMSAT Designation
2.   UNAMSAT-B Survives Vibration Tests, Could Launch Next Week
3.   Two Ham-Astronauts Selected to Train for Upcoming Mir Missions
4.   FCC Forms 610 Still Safe to Use, Despite Expiration Date
5.   Industry Canada Proposes New Radio Regulations
6.   RAC Headquarters to Leave Kingston, Moving to New Offices
7.   "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
8.   Special Event Station Calendar
9.   Ontario Offers New License Plates with Call Sign and RAC Logo
10.  Ken Oelke, VE6AFO, Appointed to RAC Admin & Finance Committee
11.  "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
12.  15th Annual ARRL/TAPR Digital Conference Set for Seattle
13.  Weekly Propagation Forecast
-
Funding for the program's transmission and production expense was
provided this week by a grant from Dana Rodakis of St. Petersburg,
Florida, and the AJ1R repeater system, serving Florida's Sun Coast
on 51.84, 145.230, 147.285, 442.075, 443.625, and 443.95 MHz.
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard on the "W0KIE Satellite Network" each Saturday at 9:00 PM
(EDT) on the Hughes Communications SBS-6 commercial communications
satellite, transponder 13B upper, located at 74 degrees west
longitude in equatorial geosynchronous orbit.  The transponder
center frequency is 12.019 GHz; tune up in frequency to 12.031 GHz.
Program audio is on the 6.2 MHz analog subcarrier and carried on
VHF/UHF repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860
kHz.  Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Here in the Capital District, "This Week in Amateur Radio" is heard
on our "flagship" repeater, WA2OQE/R in Troy, on 145.33 MHz,
courtesy of the Niagara-Mohawk Amateur Radio Club.  The program is
repeated Mondays at 8:00 PM.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (email [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (email [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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Subject: www.hamradio-online.com is now read in 43 countries!
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With perhaps the widest distribution of any amateur radio "magazine" in the
world, www.hamradio-online.com is now being read in 43 countries around the
globe. And its free, self supported by us and you, our readers who contribute
great feature stories for this online magazine.

If you haven't paid us a visit, please stop on by and have a look around.
There's lots to see - from feature stories all the time, to real-time
propagation conditions, auroral conditions, meteor scatter info, disaster
situation reports, newsletters from amateur organizations throughout the world
,
and our vast library of nearly a year's worth of online articles. And we allow

reprinting of almost everything in club newsletters and other non-commercial
publications and web sites (please see our reprint policy, online).

And watch for more cool stories and new features over the coming months. We
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------------------------
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:39 1996
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Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
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<[e-mail]> writes:

>eliminated"), I'll be at the next available testing session and walk
>away with Extra ... (half asleep, in a drunken stupor)

Highly doubtful.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:40 1996
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We like CW. It's fun to see the whiners squeal. If that was the only purpose
it served it would be worth it.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
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Subject: Goodness... (was Re: PLL Radio for 9600 baud packet?)
Date: 31 Aug 1996 03:06:44 GMT
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In article <507sld$[e-mail]>,
Jim Kehler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh) wrote:
>
>>In article <5052ke$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) w
rites:
>
>>>>Ignorance is Bliss!!!!  And no excuse for running inadequite radios on
>>>>the network.
>
>>>Isn't that essentially what I said? ;-)
>
>>I would like to offer my apoligies to Rob and Dana for not entering into a n
ew
>>field with the absolutly best equipment money can buy on the planet.
>
>>If that is their definition of "ignorance"...I am guilty.
>

>Gee, Chris, all this time I thought this was AMATEUR radio.  Sure glad we got
>these PRO's to help us out.  I guess I better not tell them I am using a ten
>year old radio on 9600 baud packet, I might get reamed too.

Well, Jim, I guess you don't read my posts for the same reason you
don't read Gary Coffman's posts - you might accidently learn something.
However, this doesn't stop you from Drewing, oops, I mean spewing out
comments anyway ;-).

If you'd read my posts, you would have noted that I was explaining
that Greenhalgh's _modern PLL radio_ is not suitable for 9600
baud.  Furthermore, if you'd thought about what I wrote, you'd
discover that many older crystal-controlled radios are suitable
for 9600 baud packet.  In fact, some of the best and most popular
radios at 9600 baud are Motorola Mitreks, most of which are older
than ten years.  Also excellent are Maxars, Maxar 80s and Flexars
(the Flexar I'm currently using for 9600 baud here is from 1980!).

What you apparently did was skip over all the technical content and
home in on Greenhalgh's strawman "not everyone can have the best
radios money can buy" whining.  I never said he needed the best
radio money can buy - I simply pointed out that his PLL radio
in unsuitable for a number of technical reasons.


--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:43 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Who Do You Hear on HF?
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 07:37:28 -0700
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To: Drew Durigan <[e-mail]>

Drew Durigan wrote:
>
> Who do I hear on HF?
>
> 1)  OLDE FAHRTZ spending endless hours complaining about their health
> problems.
>
> 2)  OLDE FAHRTZ spending endless hours talking about what type of spark-
> gap transmitter they used to use prior to World War II.
>
> 3)  OLDE FAHRTZ spending endless hours bellyaching about the no-coders on
> the VHF/UHF bands and how "we need to make sure 'they' don't get access
> to 'our' bands down here."
>
> 4) OLDE FAHRTZ spending endless hours arguing with each other, causing
> malicious interference to each other, and using language that makes CB
> look like a Sunday School picnic.  Is it CB Channel 19?  Why no, it's the
> 75-meter ham band!
>
> Is it any wonder that the bands are under attack by commercial interests?
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>  KF4DDM

You forgot number 5

 4) YOUNGE  SQUIRTS spending endless hours complaining about OLDE
FAHRTZ!!

Somehow your gross generalizations forgot to mention the maritime mobile
nets, the emergency communications during real disasters, the
international goodwill conducted on the bands daily, the enormous
dissemination of technical information, the National Traffic System, aid
to Servicemen, and MARS.

The Olde Fahrtz can tell you a thing or two about history and
achievement -- because they made it all happen. The last 80 years are
the pinnacle of achievement for this nation -- and the Olde Fahrtz did
it all (and still are) -- from medicine to the moon. They have conquered
diseases, fought the nations wars, hurled mankind to the moon, raised
YOUR standard of living to unbelievable heights.

It will be interesting to see how well you Young Squirtz do, you have a
tough act to follow OM!!!

AC6V  neither Younge or Olde
But merely an Amateur Radio Operator -- how about you???
--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:44 1996
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From: John Nelson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mars MOD for FT50-r
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 08:51:02 -0800
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Jim Kehler wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (KPlumb) wrote:
>
> >Im looking for mars mod for ft50-r. Please post.
> >73"s
> >Kevin Plumb N2WFS
> >[e-mail]
>
> Cut diode D16 on the main board.

Do NOT do this! This dickhead is, as it typical for him, just spewing
noise. Unfortunately, in this case, taking his noise seriously can have
expensive consequences for the uninformed.

It is a sad state of affairs when cretins such as this have to resort to
vandalism to elevate their egos above their sorry natural resting place.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:45 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Which is better CB or Ham radio?
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 13:44:02 -0700
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To: Mike Adams <[e-mail]>

Mike Adams wrote:
>
> I'm totally confused after reading all of the posts here on the Usenet
> groups.  What is the difference between ham and CB radio?  Do you need
> a license to be a ham?
>
> Isn't CB radio much better and cheaper?
>
> Just wondering.
>
> Mike

Hi Mike for ham radio see URL:
http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/radio/ham-radio/faq/

For CB see URL:

http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/radio/cb-faq/

Should answer most of your questions.

I would suggest that you ignore responses that pit one versus the other
and make up your own mind. Neither is "better" it depends on your needs
and goals.

Good Luck
Rod in San Diego
--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V --Amateur Radio call Sign
---- KEV9506  --- CB Call Sign


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: 31 Aug 1996 16:24:52 -0400
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In article <509su9$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Really? Well I'll tell ya, I hear a lot of 5WPM code in the Extra CW
>>DX windows. Not.
>>
>>Funny you should mention crowding. Are you now admitting that crowding
>>on HF is a problem?
>>
>
>Crowding is NOT a valid reason to "close the door" to admitting new
>hams.  It does, however, argue in favor of encouraging the use of more
>spectally-efficient techniques so that more can be accommodated.

Okay, I'll buy into this line of reasoning. Where are all the technical
innovations promised to us by all the the techno-genius wiz-bang kids that
the codeless license would attract? I'd like an itemized list. Its
been five years now, certainly there are one or two that are now
commercially available.


>>>They operate there and say "listening on ____ kHz" so they don't get
>>>buried in their own pileups by the US lids who can pound CW but don't
>>>know squat about operating courtesy or proper proceedures. Or those
>>>whose speech processors and "linears" are 50kHz wide with intermods to
>>>the umpteenth order ...
>>
>>I usually don't run into many US hams running speech processors in the
>>lower 25kc of the band.
>>
>
>Why don't you try REAL hard to read what I wrote and understand what I
>SAID?

Testy, testy. Now calm down Carl. I wouldn't want you to start hurling
insults in face of your last post telling us how much you want to keep
the discussion above-board.

>It was exactly my point that the reason DX tends to congregate in
>the portions of the band (where most US hams can't go)

All these foreign hams decide to use the extra-class DX windows
and operate CW to "escape" from poor "general" class operators?  Did
I get that straight?

So, what you're saying is that the extra class license examinations
(along with that 20wpm code test) somehow give us better operators on
HF, is that it? (Must be, since all these foreign ops want to talk to
them.)

Oh, and maybe you can tell me: how much "foreign dx" (foreign-to-non-US
contacts) is in that lower 25kc? Just so I know, because I wouldn't want
to make a statement like "funny, most of the dx I hear in the lower 25kc
seems to be foreign ops contacting US ops".

Now, true that there is much contact outside the US frequency allocations,
but we can't say that foreign ops are operating within the frequency
allocations merely because they don't want to work in ours.


MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
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--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: 31 Aug 1996 16:27:42 -0400
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In article <509th0$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Someone with enough brains to handle the administrative chore yet doesn't
>>have any specialty knowledge that means you have to pay them more than
>>minimum wage. This is why we don't see very many MDs scooping ice cream
>>at the local snack shop.                        ^^^^^
>>
>>MD
>^^^^^
>
>Let me get this straight now ... you can't even get a job scooping ice
>cream at the local snack shop because you don't have enough brains to
>handle the administrative chores?  Is that what you said?

No, you don't see many highly-talented people (such as MDs) scooping
ice cream because you can pay some moron $4.15 (or whatever minimum
wage is these days) to accomplish the same thing.


>Please READ the posts here and if you diassagree with what was truly
>said, reply, but also please engage brain before engaging mouth or
>you'll be dissagreeing with something that wasn't said.

Funny, it would seem that you need to take your own advise.

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
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--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:51 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: ARRL "Representation" on code and other issues
Date: 31 Aug 1996 17:03:43 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Buddy Sohl) writes:
>The point that the ARRL is the largest coordinated group representing
>amateur radio is enough merit in itself to be a member.  If you
>believe in amateur radio and want to protect the service AND you are
>not a member of the League, then you're only rowing with one oar.  To
>belong to an organization does not mean you agree on all points.  But
>to be on the sidelines and bitch shows a lack of character and
>definitely a lack of say in the Leagues business.
>
>Compare this to the ballot box.  If you don't vote, don't bitch.  If
>you don't belong to the ARRL go get a 27 Mhz radio and join the rest
>of the whiners.   My .02
>
>73 de KC4WQ
>
>
Buddy,

I AM a "member" so I guess, even by your standards, I have a RIGHT to
bitch.

And I DID vote the last time I received a ballot from the ARRL.
Actually, it was a write-in that said "None of the establishment lackeys
listed above is acceptable."

Since I have established my right, I'll say it again "The ARRL is run by
a bunch of outdated old cronies who are not in touch with nor
representating the REAL interests and views of the majority of the US
ham community and, therefore, does not deserve the "clout" that it has
at the FCC nor its status as the sole US "representative" to the IARU."

I sincerely hope that I've made my view on the subject abundantly clear.

Carl - wa6vse
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:52 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: ARRL "Representation" on code and other issues
Date: 31 Aug 1996 17:24:49 GMT
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In <506vrc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary Hosler) writes:
>
>You are apparently unaware that the ARRL is promoting TWO survey's.
>One survey (QST) will collect ARRL membership thoughts, the other will
>look at the entire group of licensed amateurs. The information from
>the  two sources will be for understanding the differences, if any,
>between amateurs at large and amateurs are members of ARRL. These data
>will be assessed by the WRC-99 Planning Committe the Board.  If you
>have questions on how this is being run then contact the committe.
>They will be happy to share the information with you.
>
>73  de KN0Z
>
>"KNOW CODE"
>
Gary,

I'm aware that the ARRL claims to be surveying both members and non
members ... as I stated before, I don't trust them not to "fix" the
results.

Surveys and statistics can be manipulated to one's own purposes so
easily as to render them useless for much beyond generating "data" to
support one's foregone conclusions.

Besides, there will be one hell of a lot more copies fo the survey sent
to members via QST than will fall into the hands of "the barbarians".

It will be very easy for ARRL to slant the "results" to suit their
purposes.

Perhaps a more accurate assessment could be obtained by mailing a ballot
on the issue to EVERY licensed US ham, with the reqirement that it be
executed and returned or the license would be revoked?  This would serve
two useful purposes ... 1) get a more representative view of the
opinions of ALL hams , and 2) afford the FCC a mechanism for purging the
license roles of all the Silent Keys and totally-inactive-couldn't-care
"hams."

This would still not be a perfect mechanism to decide yes or no on the
issue of keep/abandon the CW _testing_ requirement, because it would not
include the views of wannabe hams.

The point is that it's the FCC's obligation to decide the future of ham
radio, not on the basis of what the ARRL and its "members" want, but
rather on the basis of what best serves the "public interest."

My view is that the public interest would best be served by a vital,
growing, technically-progressive amateur radio service, not a bunch of
increasingly senile old-timers whose primary interest is in protecting
"their" bands from newcomers and new modes that they can't comprehend.


Carl - wa6vse
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From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:53 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: 31 Aug 1996 17:31:53 GMT
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In <506jrg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael
P. Deignan) writes:
>In article <505u57$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>No, for the most part they're not snobs ... they're simply taking
>>advantage of the fact that their governments have not created sub-bands
>>for eletists like our has and that those segments are less crowded.
>
>Really? Well I'll tell ya, I hear a lot of 5WPM code in the Extra CW
>DX windows. Not.
>
>Funny you should mention crowding. Are you now admitting that crowding
>on HF is a problem?
>

Crowding is NOT a valid reason to "close the door" to admitting new
hams.  It does, however, argue in favor of encouraging the use of more
spectally-efficient techniques so that more can be accommodated.

>>They operate there and say "listening on ____ kHz" so they don't get
>>buried in their own pileups by the US lids who can pound CW but don't
>>know squat about operating courtesy or proper proceedures. Or those
>>whose speech processors and "linears" are 50kHz wide with intermods to
>>the umpteenth order ...
>
>I usually don't run into many US hams running speech processors in the
>lower 25kc of the band.
>

Why don't you try REAL hard to read what I wrote and understand what I
SAID?

It was exactly my point that the reason DX tends to congregate in
the portions of the band (where most US hams can't go) is precicely to
avoid being stomped on by lids who passed a 13+wpm code test but can't
properly operate an HF station (either technically, vis a vis the
over-driven speech processors and linears that are not linear, or in
terms of basic operating courtesty and proper proceedures.)

Carl - wa6vse
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:54 1996
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Subject: Re: ARRL SURVEY IGNORES 7 OF 8 WRC-99 ISSUES!
Date: 31 Aug 1996 17:41:52 GMT
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In <506k14$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael
P. Deignan) writes:

>Yes... And.... What's your point? Seems obvious that you'd want to be able
>to use the lowest-common-denominator of person to administer your test.
>Someone with enough brains to handle the administrative chore yet doesn't
>have any specialty knowledge that means you have to pay them more than
>minimum wage. This is why we don't see very many MDs scooping ice cream
>at the local snack shop.                        ^^^^^
>
>MD
^^^^^

Let me get this straight now ... you can't even get a job scooping ice
cream at the local snack shop because you don't have enough brains to
handle the administrative chores?  Is that what you said?

Sorry, but I couldn't resist ... that's the same sort of convoluted
half-truth missinterpretation that you applied to my last comments.

Please READ the posts here and if you diassagree with what was truly
said, reply, but also please engage brain before engaging mouth or
you'll be dissagreeing with something that wasn't said.

Carl - wa6vse
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Sep 02 07:06:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Marcelo Cury - PY1TTO)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: JNOS, looking for ..
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:28:17 GMT
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Hello !
I am looking for JNOS system.
Where can I get a copy ?
Thanks in advance.

Marcelo Cury - [e-mail]
                        [e-mail]