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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:56:47 1996
From: John Mackey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can I use USA callsign in P. rico & v. Islds???
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:23:06 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4r6b43$[e-mail]>
To: Bill Hayhurst <[e-mail]>

Bill Hayhurst wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me if I can use my USA callsign, KE4IDU , while on vacation
in
> Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.
>
> Thanks,   Bill Hayhurst



If you don't know the answer to this question they hom the FUCK did you ever
pass you ham test in the first place???


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:56:48 1996
From: Ken Harrison <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Info: Standard GX-3000 UHF
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 00:50:19 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Can anyone give me some information on a Standard UHF commercial radio
model number GX-3000?  I have a friend who acquired one and is interested
in getting it up on amateur freqs.  Any info would help.

Thanks and 73--
Ken
N6MHG
mailto:[e-mail]
Sonoma County Radio Amateurs:  http://www.cs.sonoma.edu/~ken/scra.html


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:56:49 1996
From: Ken Harrison <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Info: Standard GX-3000 UHF
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 00:59:22 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Can anyone give me some information on a Standard UHF commercial radio
model number GX-3000?  I have a friend who acquired one and is interested
in getting it up on amateur freqs.  Any info would help.

Thanks and 73--
Ken
N6MHG
mailto:[e-mail]
Sonoma County Radio Amateurs:  http://www.cs.sonoma.edu/~ken/scra.html


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:56:50 1996
From: Ken Harrison <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Info: Standard GX-3000
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:11:13 -0700
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.960701010843.28349B-100000@zippy>

I have a friend who has recently acquired a Standard UHF Commercial radio
model GX-3000 and he is interested in getting it up on amateur freqs.  Any
info along this lines would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and 73--
Ken
mailto:[e-mail]


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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:56:55 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: CW can not die...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4qmdbp$[e-mail]> <4qmtsa$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:44:19 GMT

Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>That OOK Morse can get through where SSB can't isn't exactly hot news.
>We've known that for decades. Of course when SSB can get through,
>it has higher throughput than OOK Morse.

Not always true. If you've worked NTS then you passed messages on voice that
were at times 500% greater in length than their CW counterparts (using Q-
signals and prosigns). And the WPM upper limit in passing voice messages
is always determined by the speed the listener can write or type. "Please
repeat all after..." must be included in calculating the "throughput"
(almost as corny as your "wetware modem" expression).

>But both are bottom of
>the barrel methods compared to Clover, PACTOR, etc.

Your digital modes work only as fast as the initiator can mentally create
a message and type it error-free (say, 60WPM combined); another limiting fac-
tor is how quickly the receiving op *and* destinee can read and comprehend the

message. You're good at intentionally failing to include these human factors
as an upperbound in speed when discussing digital comms.

Jeff KH2PZ / KH6

P.S. I know you love a large audience, but allow your followup proceed to
the .policy group where the CW discussions belong.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:56:56 1996
From: [e-mail](Rein A. Smit )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for book, Radio Astronomy, Instrumentation and Techniques
Date: 1 Jul 1996 04:31:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4r7ka4$[e-mail]>


    Greetings,

    I am looking for a book titled:

    Radio Astronomy, Instrumentation and Techniques by Paul F
Goldsmith.   SBN 0879422408 IEEE

    Rein W6/PA0ZN

    http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:00 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur,policy,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Germany got what it deserved.
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 08:04:40 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4os6e4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4p7tsf$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
To: Herwig Cuypers <[e-mail]>

Herwig Cuypers wrote:

> That is exactly the reason why I don't respond to US American CQ's,
> because I feel the mindset of Americans even today would allow a
> repeat of :
> - phosphor bombing of Dresden and Hamburg;
> - nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki;

I do not think we started these wars.
I do not think we caused the holocaust.
I do not think we started Pearl Harbor.
I do think those that started it got some but not all of what they deserved.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |    Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time.      |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]       [e-mail]       [e-mail]  |
#======================================================================#


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:01 1996
From: Bill Levey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur Vendor Directory
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 08:14:50 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

A comprehensive directory of Amateur Radio-related vendors doing
business on the web may be found at:

http://www.scott.net/~wa4fat/vendor.html

73!


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:02 1996
From: Bill Levey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Logging Software
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 08:38:00 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

James Shoemaker wrote:
>
> CQCQCQ DE KF4BFM
> Iam looking for a logging program called ct can any one tell me
> where i can get it. Is it on the internet somewhere to download.
> You can E-MAIL me [e-mail].
> Thanks an 73 from KF4BFM


How do I obtain CT?

K1EA Software
Distributed by XX Towers, Inc.
814 Hurricane Hill Road
Mason, NH 03048
Orders: 603-878-4600 FAX: [phone]
Support: 603-878-4200 BBS: 508-460-8877

Updates to the CT sofware are available only via the telephone BBS.
There is presently no way to get updates via the Internet.

CT Version 8.53 was the last to support 8086/80286 PCs. You can still
order this version from
K1EA Software. CT Version 9 runs only on PCs using an 80386 or better.

A very old version of CT 6.26 is available by anonymous FTP from:

                    ftp.coast.net:/SimTel/msdos/hamradio/ct626.zip

Note that this version is several years old, has very little in the way
of documentation, and there is
NO support from K1EA.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:03 1996
From: Chris Knauer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: National and Colorado SKYWARN Homepages
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 08:48:55 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi all,

Some new improvments..

The National SKYWARN Homepage has moved to a new site at
http://www.skywarn.org/

The Colorado SKYWARN Homepage has moved to a new site as well at
http://www.skywarn.org/co

Basically, both sites are now on a faster server (Sparc 20) so response
times should be somewhat better (unless it is the early afternoon, then
the whole Internet is just a crawl!)

Take care and 73's,

Chris Knauer


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:04 1996
From: Dave Sparks <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: I can't even give it away.
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 08:55:05 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <znr835901860k@Digex>

Francis A. Ney, Jr. wrote:

> Of course, I've seen quite a few folks (some even with ham tickets) whose
> VCRs/TVs/Microwaves are blinking 12:00...

Guilty as charged ... but with extenuating circumstances!

Even with a ham ticket and a BSEE degree, that describes my VCR.  Why?
It seems that setting the time on the darn thing is the surest way to
invite a power outage.  Sort of like washing your car invites rain. <g>

Why is it that my $10 alarm clock with a $1 9v Energizer for backup can
go for hours without power and keep at least some semblance of the right
time?  But let the power flicker off for a second or two, and it's
"Flashing 12:00" time for my VCR that cost 20-30X as much!

--
Dave Sparks


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Karl Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can I use USA callsign in P. rico & v. Islds???
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 09:06:07 -0400
Message-ID: <CSLE87-0107960906070001@145.39.1.10>
References: <4r6b43$[e-mail]> <4r6vl6$[e-mail]>

In article <4r6vl6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
wrote:

> [e-mail] (Bill Hayhurst) wrote:
>
> >Can anyone tell me if I can use my USA callsign, KE4IDU , while on
vacation in
> >Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.
>
> >Thanks,   Bill Hayhurst
>
> Yes. And you can use it in Guam, too. But I wouldn't recommend Guam
> for a vacation.  The Virgin Islands are a lot closer.
>
> 73, Jim KH2D

Let's be a bit more specific here.  You use your USA call in PR and the
*US* Virgin Islands because they are territories of the United States.
The *British* Virgin Islands are nearby and another vacation spot, but
different rules apply there.  The ARRL can assist you on licensing if you
are traveling to the BVIs.
--
Karl Beckman, P.E.                <      If our English language is so   >
Motorola Private Data Systems     <   precise, why do you drive on the   >
Schaumburg, IL  /  Parma, OH      <   parkway and park on the driveway?  >
[phone] / [phone]
**  Opinions expressed here do NOT represent the views of Motorola Inc. **
--
Amateur radio WA8NVW                        NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:06 1996
From: "Thomas J. Penton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I can't even give it away.
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:11:51 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4pk9ap$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4q7dct$[e-mail]>  <4qgvr9$[e-mail]> <4qnjo4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Burt Fisher wrote:
> To play with you.
>
 So go play with your self  burt.














Thomas J. Penton
[e-mail]
I am a stranger in a
even stranger land



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:07 1996
From: "Thomas J. Penton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Germany got what it deserved.
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:17:09 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4os6e4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4p7tsf$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Burt Fisher wrote:
> I do not think we started these wars.
> I do not think we caused the holocaust.
> I do not think we started Pearl Harbor.
> I do think those that started it got some but not all of what they deserved.

Why dont you take this to another ng burt, it does not belong here.













Thomas J. Penton
[e-mail]
I am a stranger in a
even stranger land



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:09 1996
From: Roger Basford <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: HT Inventor on Talk Show
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:19:17 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4qmd1l$[e-mail]>

In article <4r07si$[e-mail]>, Keith Stevenson
<[e-mail]> writes
>This sounds like a really interesting program and I would really love to
>listen to it.  Can anyone tell me how it would be possible to listen to
>it via shortwave/satellite in the UK?
>
>
Keith,

I listened to the show last night on 12160 kHz using a Icom IC725 and a
Datong active antenna at 20 feet agl, signals were consistently S9+. The
sigs were also fairly good on a Sony 7600 with a whip antenna. The
interview was very interesting, pity there wasn't a 1-800 freefone line
for listeners outside the US, 'cos I wanted to have a go at the quiz!

73, Roger G3VKM


                *///////////////////////////////////////*
                *   e-mail: [e-mail]   *
                * Roger Basford, Haddiscoe, Norfolk U.K.*
                *///////////////////////////////////////*


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (duffy1)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 09:26:02
Message-ID: <4r8n3l$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4q9cuv$[e-mail]> <4qbpfg$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


In article <[e-mail]> Michael L. Ardai wrote:
>for the 2AT/02AT line work fine with the 202.  BTW, how well does
the
>Alinco work near pager transmitters?
>

Works Great!



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Greg Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 10 meter meteor scatter
Date: 1 Jul 1996 09:31:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4r8ug6$[e-mail]>
References: <4r73hv$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Larry Jones) wrote:

>I have been off the vhf/uhf bands for a year now due to moving BUT I have
>been monitoring meteor scatter on 10 meters !  I am now ready to set up
>meteor scatter skeds for 10 meters.  I have a good array, preamps and am
>ready to run skeds, so if you need Ms. for your was, want to experiment
>or want to jut try a sked on 10, PLEASE e-mail me.  The potential of ms
>on this band is not fully realized and there are going to be a few more
>years before we get good propagation on 10.  Give ms a try.  E-mail me
>for a sked or info.  I should have the antenna up this week ( I hope ).
>i am waiting on it to arrive.  The tower, rotor etc. are in place and
>ready !  All e-mail wll be answered.  - Larry, WB5KYK, Laurel, Ms.

Good propagation on 10! Well apparently you didn't listen while field
day was going on. The band never died. I was hearing stations all over
Texas, Oklahoma, California, Nevada, and a few others from here in
Arizona. As soon as field day closed so did the band. Imagine that! It
is not the band that is dead it is the number of operators using it.
If everyone used it the band might not be as dead as you think it is.
Field day proved that.

73




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:14 1996
From: Nat Davis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Feedback on MFJ HF tu
Date: 1 Jul 1996 13:07:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4r8iiu$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4olsol$[e-mail]> <4p08 <[e-mail]>


> Gee, I don't know what YOUR problem is.  I've had a 300 watt MFJ tuner for
> five years and it hasn't given me a single problem.  Nice compact little
> box.  Great meter.
>
>
> 73,
> Ken WA8JXM
>

I just bought the MFJ 949 300 watt tuner.  Have used it the last few days.
It seems to work just fine.  The dual-needle SWR/power meter is
great.  With all of the bad comments about MFJ on the net, I opened
the box up expecting a mess inside.  I was pleased to see that it was
constructed OK.

For the money invested, MFJ appears to put out reasonable products.
Sure, I'd like that $800 tuner, but the MFJ one was a lot easier on the
budget.

Nat
N4BTO



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:15 1996
From: Nat Davis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Logging Software
Date: 1 Jul 1996 13:15:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4r8j15$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

James Shoemaker <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> CQCQCQ DE KF4BFM
> Iam looking for a logging program called ct can any one tell me
> where i can get it. Is it on the internet somewhere to download.
> You can E-MAIL me [e-mail].
> Thanks an 73 from KF4BFM


CT is in version 9 via
K1EA Software
5 Mount Royal Ave
Marlborough, MA  01752
[phone]

I think they have a web site and I also think a much earlier
version can be downloaded at a sort of examination copy to see
what the software "looks like."

73,

Nat
N4BTO



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: The real mans real hams t
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 96 13:34:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: The real mans real hams test.

BF>Number of Yes answers:

BF>                   2 or less- are you sure you are a ham?
  >                   4 to 6- you are on the edge of being human or ham.
  >                   6 to 8-you are a typical ham-very boring.
  >                   8 to 1O-check your pulse, if you find one re-take
  >                   test.
  >                   1O or more. Call the funeral home, send your name
  >                   into QST as a Silent Key.

I score "3".  It is not clear what that makes me from the above.
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:17 1996
From: "Kathryn J. Goerg" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RF/Microwave CAE Site
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 13:36:55 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The Webb Laboratories RF/Microwave CAE Site is at:

        http://www.webblabs.com

Please inspect our receiver engineering, structure synthesis
and active filter design capabilities.

Kathy Goerg
Webb Laboratories
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Feedback on MFJ HF tu
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 13:37:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4r8np8$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4olsol$[e-mail]> <4p08 <[e-mail]> <4r8iiu$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Nat Davis <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I just bought the MFJ 949 300 watt tuner.  Have used it the last few days.
>It seems to work just fine.  The dual-needle SWR/power meter is

It will, as long as you run 100 watts into it.  Just don't try 300.

73. Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:19 1996
From: [e-mail]     (Roger J. Buffington; AB6WR)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MY PROBLEM WITH CQ MAGAZINE
Date: 1 Jul 1996 13:46:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4r8kqt$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Roger J. Buffington)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>Its time to speak out against CQ Magazine!!!!
>Every month's cover page looks alike.  Its always the same
>thing....some middle-aged white man posing in front of an impressive
>array of radios and other electronic gear, looking at the
>photographer. Every issue cover looks exactly alike.

This isn't true.  In three of the last six issues, the rooms had wood
panelling, and the other three had either wallpaper or were painted.  So
don't go saying that the photos are all the same because they're not.

Also, in one of them the guy was smiling, and in the others they weren't.

So there.

Roger J. Buffington
AB6WR
USC Law School Class of '97

[e-mail]

"I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather.
Not screaming, and in terror, like his passengers."





From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Craig)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.digital
Subject: Re: CW can not die...
Date: 1 Jul 1996 13:52:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4r8l75$[e-mail]>
References: <4qmdbp$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4qqoag$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4r6fre$[e-mail]>

Carlyle Gerde ([e-mail]) wrote:

:   I think that the agrument should be not is CW going away rather
: is it necessary as a testing element.  The Army has dropped CW for
: communications purposes as the battlefield moves too fast for both
: voice and CW to keep up.  The Navy was first with Tactical Data just
: to keep up with ship to ship missles, aircraft and subs.  However
: there are Morse Code operations in dealing with ship to ship routine
: operations (flashing lights), Special Operations groups (SEALS, SF, etc)
: and Morse intercept (third world military ops).

:   We must realize that the world moves very fast nowdays.  High speed
: digital is necessary for that communication.  I think that many of us
: have romanticized code, that of being the lonely operator that saves the
: day.  Those visions are of the past, WWI and WWII.  The world is different n
ow.  It moves faster.  Code was of a slower age.

:   CW and code still have a place.  It is fun to do.  It has its challenges.
 But it is not necessary as a testing element.  Knowledge of
: technology is.  Knowledge of the law, rules and regulations are even
: more important.  This what must be tested.  Very dry and dusty -- not
: very romantic.



--

Joe VO1NA



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:22 1996
From: Matthew Cravit <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2M or 440 repeaters in Palo Alto, CA?
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 15:42:53 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I've just moved to Palo Alto, CA, and am looking to get back on the
air (once I find which box I packed my HTs in, that is.) Can anyone
recommend any 2M or 440 repeaters in or around Palo Alto, Mountain
View and/or San Jose? Also, are there any good ham radio clubs in
any of those places that I should look into?

Thanks in advance!

73 DE N9VWG
/MC
--
Matthew Cravit, QA Engineer                                 Acrobat QA
Adobe Systems Inc., 1585 Charleston Rd m/s E1-03                 x3418
Mountain View, CA 94043                              [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.dx
Subject: KaWin News
Date: 1 Jul 1996 15:45:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4r8rqd$[e-mail]>

KAWIN NEWS

KaWin 6.39 is ready for download! Minor changes to the help
file too.

KaWin 6.39's enhancements are largely focused on the HF CW
or RTTY operator, but there are some minor fixes that will
be welcomed by all. They are described in the Squawk file.

HF DX and contest operators will find a competitive
advantage in the new option to send every keystroke as it is
pressed, and those with access to a DXCluster will be one
click ahead of the gang when a new spot appears by clicking
on a DX spot and instantly setting the callsign in the HF
context. Also, the automatic logging of HF QSOs in non-
connected modes is now subject to operator confirmation - no
more log entries for unsuccessful DX calls.

All currently reported bugs are fixed in 6.39.

73, Igottago... Stan ..

KaWin News is published by Stan Huntting, KF0IA.
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Email:            [e-mail]
Fax:              303 444 2314
KaWin home page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
Postal address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Warren Ring)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood and Microsoft say ham radio dead
Date: 1 Jul 1996 16:51:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <4r8vms$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4r47vh$[e-mail]> <4r6vl1$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Even the average
>age of HF licensed amateurs is declining, down to 58 now.
>(Mostly due to Tech Plus and, surprisingly, Extra, both classes
>have gotten significantly younger over the last 5 years.)

Some people, like me, find that it's not significantly more difficult to
upgrade from one class to another (5 WPM -> 13 WPM -> 20 WPM) than it is
to upgrade from 0 WPM to 5 WPM.  It's just a matter of where you are on the
ladder and whether or not you want to keep climbing.  (Unless you have
a physical problem of some type.)  The desire to advance is common, no
matter where you happen to be on the ladder at the time.

So it doesn't surprise me that the average age of the Tech Plus and Extra
classes are both decreasing.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Be kind to animals - don't eat them.  Be kind to plants - don't eat them.
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Frank Dinger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: CW cannot not die...
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:09:48 +0100
Message-ID: <4rb749$[e-mail]>
References: <4qmdbp$[e-mail]> <4qmtsa$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4qnfvp$[e-mail]> <01bb6315.da722f80$[e-mail]> <4qqh4g$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In message <[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Curtis D. Levin) writes:

> On 25 Jun 1996 22:17:04 -0700, Cecil Moore <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >"Thor Wiegman" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>Huffing and puffing
> >>thru the jungle would be these overweight, balding, 50 year olds with
> >>manpacks.
> >
> >Hey, Thor, I resemble that remark! :-)

> And to think it actually happened in WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, and the
> Persian Gulf. Heh.
> You're obligated to Military Service until age 65, so don't forget there's
> something you can do. You think it'll never happen, eh ? What about the
> firefighters, rescua personnel, and police officers involved in emergency
> situations ? Is there a top cap on age for them ? No, because they're
> still in reasonably good shape. Is it a requirement for a balding middle
> aged ham to be fat ? I don't think so, but then, I'm only 34. I also did a
> tour with the US Air Force, and a tour as a Security Officer. Believe me,
> you're never too old to be shot at by somebody who doesn't like you, and
> if that happens to be in the Jungle, or the city, the bullets don't know
> the difference. ttyl.


> --
> __________________________________________________________________
> | Curtis D. Levin    | Team Os/2 |  kd4zkw.ampr.org [44.98.2.22] |
> | [e-mail]  ~~~~~~~~~~~~|       [e-mail]        |
> | http://www.bridge.net/~kd4zkw  |kd4zkw@ae4ej.#MIAFL.FL.USA.NOAM|
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
============ comments GM0CSZ / KN6WH
 Curtis , What has the above to do with morse telegraphy ? Please
stick to the topic ,however tempting it is to digress .

Frank Dinger , Inver by Tain , Ross-shire IV20 1RX - Scotland UK
e-mail :  [e-mail]
Packet :  GM0CSZ @ GB7NOS.#76.GBR.EU



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:28 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Richard Berndt)
Subject: DSP-232 ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:07:48 GMT

x-no-archive: yes


Has anyone used and enjoying the DSP-232 from AEA.   I see from their
new catalog that they also have a IDR-96 radio and tnc for 9600baud
packet any comments


send all comments to:
[e-mail]


73

Richard N7VWJ



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:29 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Faith Senie)
Subject: Re: Anyone Received Their Vanity Calls Yet?
Message-ID: <4r9g3m$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:31:34 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>,
Dick Hughes <[e-mail]> wrote:
)[...]
)Being one of those that applied for an original call, I plugged in the
)new call and there it was!  It was issued to me on June 18.  It is now
)June 29, and I haven't received anything in the mail.  I was wondering
)if anyone has actually received their paper license yet.
)
)Dick Hughes
)W6CCD, ex W7LVA

Congratulations on the new (old) call!  One of our local hams has been
using his new vanity call since about a week or so before Field Day
(he applied for a deceased relative's call).  Still can't quite
get used to the new one -- his old call was nice and simple; his
new call isn't quite so nice and simple... (hi Alan!) :)

73 de Faith N1JIT

Faith
[e-mail]
http://www.senie.com/faith/



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Booher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TIMEWAVE DSP-599zx????
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:14:20 LOCAL
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


      Anyone had any experience with subject DSP, am considering the purchase
   of one and am interested to hear from anyone who has one and how it has
   worked out.....


              Thanks, Ken (K8JWC)   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:31 1996
From: Jean-Pierre Gammelgaard <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KENWOOD TM-251E
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 22:57:28 +0200
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi there.

I have been unable to find the frequency mods for my radio.
Here in Denmark where I live, the government has due to EC regulations,
decided to liberate the rules of which frequencies you are allowed to
receive. Therefore I would like to modify my radio for a broader
frequency range.

I couldn't find any description for my radio.
But maybe you have heard of or seen such?

Looking forward to hear from you.

73
OZ1XYZ

Jean-Pierre Gammelgaard
Copenhagen, Denmark


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:31 1996
From: "David L. Vrablic" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: SK 3795 ECG / NTE 2011
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 23:20:26 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anyone know wher these chips are hiding I need a couple.
<@)
 (COOTER>>


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:32 1996
From: Jefff Stone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can I use USA callsign in P. rico & v. Islds???
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 00:44:21 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4r6b43$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

John Mackey wrote:





> Bill Hayhurst wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone tell me if I can use my USA callsign, KE4IDU , while on vacatio
n in
> > Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.
> >
> > Thanks,   Bill Hayhurst
>
> If you don't know the answer to this question they hom the FUCK did you ever
> pass you ham test in the first place???



While the basic statement has some validity, I know Jon Mackey &
he can't access this newsgroup from his fidonet account.  Some one
is trying to stir up shit.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:33 1996
From: "Rick McMillion" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Family RadioService-Another BIG FCC SCREWUP!
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 03:39:02 -0700
Message-ID: <01bb6803.212fec40$2eddc7cd@rickmcm>
References: <4quovp$[e-mail]> <4qcv94$[e-mail] <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


> > > The FRS R&O does not address MANY important issues.
> > Who cares if they retransmit from a tall building, they can still only
> > use .5 watts!  Besides, how are they going to do all this with a BUILT
> > IN ANTENNA!  How many average Joes know how to hack the hardware
enough
> > to fix the permenant antenna situation.  AND, if they do, how hard
will
> > it be to find an illegal retransmition site.  Ect...
> > Ted F.
> > N3SQY
>
> Ted:
>
> A salesperson at Radio Shack told me they are already manufacturning FRS

> units and they are suppose to be 3-watts.  True/False?
>
> Bill Crocker
>
False. Typical Radio Shack answer. The other UHF radio that Radio Shack
sells is on the Interant (SP?) channels.  They are required to be
licensed, however many people buy them and never bother with a license.

The max power output for the new FRS is 500 mw with unity gain built in
antennas, and portable
operation only. Maximum devation is 2.5 Khz.

Rick, WB7UGZ



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (r)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Latest Qsl Info Files Available. July 96 Versions ready for you.
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 04:21:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4ra8ad$[e-mail]>


Latest Qsl Info Files availble for Totalham or Vplus. Visit our new
site and download the July Versions today. At www.coredcs.com/~mtw



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Richard Daneault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: I look for
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 05:47:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4ra22j$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I am looking for a window program that compiles network info.
I like to have the name of some of these programs. I tried to
modify a login program but was unsuccessful. The programs i'm looking
for need to have the presence of  each amateur that comes to the
network and from where they come from and finally the number of
amateur.
73 and thank you in advance.
Ve2 VLJ
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Richard Daneault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: I look for air-variables capacitors
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 05:49:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4ra25b$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I am looking for two air-variables capacitors of 35pf,
if anyone knows where i can find one i'de appreciate it
73 and thank you.
You can reach me at this e-mail:
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:36 1996
From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW cannot not die...
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 96 09:44:30 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4qmdbp$[e-mail]> <4qmtsa$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Bob Lewis <[e-mail]> writes:

>I seem to remember stories by some of our POW's about how they
>communicated by tapping out CW on the side of the cell.  Perhaps they

Let's keep records on how many hams are POWs during the
next ten years. That should really help your argument. :-)

73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:37 1996
From: "Scott A. Blystone" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone Received Their Vanity Calls Yet?
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 10:21:19 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4r8fdg$[e-mail]>

I mailed my vanity callsign application on June 12th. The FCC
processed it on the 20th. I finally received my ticket in the
mail on July 1st. Not bad compared to the FCC's normal speed!

Old call: KC2IQ        New call: K9EEE



Scott A. Blystone                       Amateur Radio Callsign K9EEE
Senior Communications Engineer          Electronic Data Systems, Inc.
Rochester, New York                     E-mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:38 1996
From: Doctor Who <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur,policy,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: The German (ham) pyche
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 10:26:16 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4os6e4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4p7tsf$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Herwig Cuypers wrote:
>
> That is exactly the reason why I don't respond to US American CQ's,
> because I feel the mindset of Americans even today would allow a
> repeat of :
> - phosphor bombing of Dresden and Hamburg;
> - nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki;
.....

I think it is very important that one not stick a label on "americans"
or "germans" because of acts of their governments in the past, or
perceptions of the present state of mind as a whole. By not
corresponding with people from the country in question, you may never
find your view challenged, because you admit no more evidence.

HAVE AN OPEN MIND!

Lack of an open mind is stifling ham radio!


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:39 1996
From: [e-mail](LEONARD MARSHALL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: LA, CA - Job Opening - Marketing Electronic Distribution
Date: 2 Jul 1996 11:17:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4rb0gv$[e-mail]>

Marketing Manager wanted with national experience with the MRO general
line distributors. Products include pro audio-video cables and
connectors plus line of miniature  video cameras.

Contact:
Mr. Rogers
[e-mail]
fax: [phone]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: sci.geo.meteorology,ne.weather,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: METAR... no more 31 degrees F
Date: 2 Jul 1996 11:37:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4rb1mh$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4rb0gn$[e-mail]>

called flight service today and monitored the local ATIS, temps were in ^C
conversion is (C*1.8)+32  110^F = about 43.33C

[e-mail] wrote:
: Geoff Fox <[e-mail]> wrote:

: >We had this discussion in early May and unfortunately, some predictions
: >have come true.  Most of the FAA obs from my area (CT) are being
: >transmitted without the remarks and hence temperatures to the nearest
: >degree celsius!  That means no 31F or 33F and less resolution when
: >trying to pin down winter precipitation.

: >The last time I started this thread someone from NWS came in to calm my
: >fears.  Are you still here?

: >Geoff Fox

: >--

: >and then there's my home page...

: >http://www.netcom.com/~gfox

: We noticed that yesterday as the metar's started rolling in.
: Unfortunately I can not speak for the FAA, but the NWS is carrying the
: temperatures to the nearest tenth of a degree C in the remarks section

: of the observation.

: KHTS 021050Z 00000KT 5SM -SHRA BR SCT039 BKN090 OVC150 23/23 A2985

:      RMK SLP100 T02340234 RB45=

: In the example above, the remark that starts with "T" indicates this.
: On this observation, the temperature is 23.4C and the dewpoint is also
: 23.4C.

: Sorry that the FAA isn't doing it, but the NWS is adding the "T" group
: so it can be converted to a more precise F temperature.







From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:41 1996
From: "Administration" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: General Coverage TX Modifications for Yaesu FT-890
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:57:02 +1000
Message-ID: <01bb67b9.dce49840$[e-mail]>

Hi all,

        I am hoping that somone and maybe anyone can help me with the above
subject.  I have come accross a mod guide as listed in this newsgroup from
1993 .

        As it so happens I have come to a brick wall with my mods and am needing
some help with it.  I come to the "O2 off" instruction, only to find that
all I can get is "O2 on"  Also, would anyone know of a Workshop Manual for
the FT-890.

        I am from australia and have been wondering if the paticular problem that
I am having is related to the fact that the powers that be, didnt want
these mods made in the first place.

Anyways.... see you all later

        Gordon
c/o [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:42 1996
From: "Administration" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: General Coverage TX Modifications for Yaesu FT-890
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:57:02 +1000
Message-ID: <01bb67ba.41b0bba0$[e-mail]>

Hi all,

        I am hoping that somone and maybe anyone can help me with the above
subject.  I have come accross a mod guide as listed in this newsgroup from
1993 .

        As it so happens I have come to a brick wall with my mods and am needing
some help with it.  I come to the "O2 off" instruction, only to find that
all I can get is "O2 on"  Also, would anyone know of a Workshop Manual for
the FT-890.

        I am from australia and have been wondering if the paticular problem that
I am having is related to the fact that the powers that be, didnt want
these mods made in the first place.

Anyways.... see you all later

        Gordon
c/o [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:42 1996
From: "Administration" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: General Coverage TX Modifications for Yaesu FT-890
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:57:02 +1000
Message-ID: <01bb67b9.c3203860$[e-mail]>

Hi all,

        I am hoping that somone and maybe anyone can help me with the above
subject.  I have come accross a mod guide as listed in this newsgroup from
1993 .

        As it so happens I have come to a brick wall with my mods and am needing
some help with it.  I come to the "O2 off" instruction, only to find that
all I can get is "O2 on"  Also, would anyone know of a Workshop Manual for
the FT-890.

        I am from australia and have been wondering if the paticular problem that
I am having is related to the fact that the powers that be, didnt want
these mods made in the first place.

Anyways.... see you all later

        Gordon
c/o [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:43 1996
From: "Administration" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Apologies
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:04:54 +1000
Message-ID: <01bb67ba.dc9bda00$[e-mail]>

oops....sorry about the mulitple postings all............


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:44 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Electric Generators
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 12:16:56 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for information on electric generators.  I would like
to know your experiences with various brands and/or engines on the
generators.  I know Honda is considered the best, but how about some
of the less expensive brands.  Thanks in advance.

Henry  WA0GOZ
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (someone)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mid-Atlantic Hamfests?
Date: 2 Jul 1996 13:17:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4rb7hb$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Does anyone have a list of Hamfests in the
Mid-Atlantic Region?
I don't subscribe to CQ QST etc and would really
appreciate the info. Maybe some others would also.

tnx
73 de KA3RNN



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: Field Day Lids block W1AW message
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4qtta6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4r33nb$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:52:14 GMT

In article <4r33nb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Roger
J. Buffington) writes:
-In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai) writes:
-(Referring to the scheduled W1AW broadcasts)
->Isn't it published in every QST, the handbook, Now You're Talking, and
->many other ham books???  While I agree they should listen, it's not like
->it is a surprise when the bulletins are scheduled...
-Beats me if it is or not; I don't pay attention.  Since your post indicates
-that you are not sure either, I think the point is made: most amateurs don't
-know and don't care when W1AW broadcasts.  It is the duty of W1AW to listen
-to determine if a frequency is clear; it is **not** the duty of the individua
l
-ham to read QST or "Now You're Talking" and memorize W1AW's broadcast
-schedule.

Nope.  That was a rhetorical question; I know where some of the w1aw
bulletins are for the bands I operate.  OTOH, if I would get clobbered
by w1aw, I'll just move.  Their bulletins and CW practice are more useful
to the many listeners than my one contact...

Also, note question and G2B02 from the General exam:

G2B02 (A)
If a net is about to begin on a frequency which you and another
station are using, what should you do?
A.  As a courtesy to the net, move to a different frequency

That's because it is much easier to move one QSO than a net (or bulletin)
that thousands are looking for.  Also, it apparantly is very difficult
to QSY the W1AW TX's.  As I pointed out, their schedule is very well
publicised, so it is the polite thing to do to QSY before bulletin time.

And yes, I know about G2B01:

G2B01 (D)
If you are the net control station of a daily HF net, what should
you do if the frequency on which you normally meet is in use just
before the net begins?
D.  Conduct the net on a frequency 3 to 5 kHz away from the regular
    net frequency

In an ideal world, that would be the best, but don't forget, even that
would not solve every problem; it's quite possible that propagation would
prevent w1aw from hearing every QSO on a frequency that could get stepped
on; hell it has happened to me that I get on an empty frequency, get no
response from QRL? and get yelled at from the half of the QSO that I can
hear.  Also, is it really necessary to have everyone chase w1aw all around
the band as they wander around to avoid QSOs?  Even those started by hams
who deliberately do that just because they don't like the bulletins?

73,
/mike
--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai        N1IST       [e-mail]     \|/
-*- === Boston Amateur Radio Club:  http://www.barc.org/barc === -*-
/|\       or send "info barc-list" to [e-mail]        /|\


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:48 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: CW can not die...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4qmdbp$[e-mail]> <4qmtsa$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4qqoag$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:55:13 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
writes:
>On 26 Jun 1996 07:19:44 GMT, [e-mail] <moritz
@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:
>>But if I listen on the band, I always wonder why digital stations
>>are putting out extremely strong signals. OTOH, If someone set
>>aside 50 KHz for Pactor or clover, and this section got as busy
>>as a typical CW section, you can bet that the effective throughput
>>will be very low, because the stations will spend most of their
>>time sorting protocols, syncronizing et.c.
>>
>>73, Moritz DL5UH

Not really. Once a link is established, it holds very well against
interference. Since modes like Clover have a very closely controlled
occupied spectrum, stations can operate on 500 Hz centers without
mutual interference. When a rogue does come on, the protocol patiently
continues to operate, retrying when the rogue does manage to clobber
one of the FEC protected frames.

>Very true... my 1200 baud packet station shows an average of about 30 baud
>throughput if queried. Of course, during a data transfer, that rate is
>higher, but that's prepackaged. You also have to be a pretty proficient
>typist to type 30 wpm, and most experienced morse code ops do that with
>ease, not counting retries, and errors. On the average, morse code is
>actually more efficient than keyboarding.

Packet is a different can of worms. Because it doesn't offer robust
error correction, and uses a go back N recovery algorithm, it suffers
greatly from interference. Note, however, that 30 baud is still 45 WPM.
My high school typing class had a minimum passing speed of 60 WPM.
30 WPM typing is definitely in the hunt and peck category.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:49 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Russ)
Subject: Re: Sam's Printing
Message-ID: <727cc$a1c13.23@NEWS>
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 15:27:31 GMT
References: <4r3sb5$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Lee Way) wrote:

:>I have the Sam's callsign database on my harddrive. I would like to
:>print the calls I look up on to an envelope. I'm using a HP deskjet
:>600C. Has anyone been able to do this?

:>                                        KE4QMP, Lee Way

Hey Lee, you need the Sam Users Guide. Send a request to RT Systems
and ask for the user's guide. In it you will find a section on "SAM
Format for Export (SFX) Files". In the options screen, (F9) there is a
field called "Print Format File" sam reads this file and the control
characters in it so it will know how to output the data. They (files
with a SFX extenion) are  ASCII files and you can edit them with an
editor to make the data come out the way you want.

All you have to do is make up a file with the proper control codes in
it and name is somthing like envelope.sfx. Then go to the options
screen, (F9) and put the name of the file in the "Print Format" field.
Sam will output the data in this format and print it on the envelope.
It takes a few tries to get the right number of [NL]  'New Lines" and
so forth but it works pretty good. Hope this helps.

73 de N5EJS
Russ






From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The German (ham) pyche
Date: 2 Jul 1996 17:09:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4rbl3v$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4os6e4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4p7tsf$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)


Doctor Who ([e-mail]) writes:
> Herwig Cuypers wrote:
>>
>> That is exactly the reason why I don't respond to US American CQ's,
>> because I feel the mindset of Americans even today would allow a
>> repeat of :
>> - phosphor bombing of Dresden and Hamburg;
>> - nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki;
> .....
>
> I think it is very important that one not stick a label on "americans"
> or "germans" because of acts of their governments in the past, or
> perceptions of the present state of mind as a whole. By not
> corresponding with people from the country in question, you may never
> find your view challenged, because you admit no more evidence.
>
> HAVE AN OPEN MIND!
>
> Lack of an open mind is stifling ham radio!


Sounds to me like a perfect candidate to work 440Mhz with 100 mW.  Line of
sight. :-)

--
    Talk with you soon ...
                      Frank Sved
                             Amateur: VE3GID
                               Email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alan Turbide)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT530- can step size be changed in 800 Mhz range???
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 18:24:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4rben5$[e-mail]>

I have a FT-530 with full modification for Rx but I found that in the
800 to 950 Mhz range the step size is locked at 12.5 Khz.  Is there a
modification that needs to be done to allow this?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Alain VE3QAL
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alan Turbide)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT530: can scan step size be changed in 800 Mhz range???
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 18:27:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4rbesk$[e-mail]>

I have a FT-530 with full modification for Rx but I found that in the
800 to 950 Mhz range the step size is locked at 12.5 Khz.  Is there a
modification that needs to be done to allow this?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Alain VE3QAL
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:53 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Mel Goldberg)
Subject: SCOUTING Ham Radio
Message-ID: <myriadsn-0207961125240001@192.0.2.2>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:24:44 GMT

ScoutRadio is a "good turn project" of Troop 319, Huntington Beach,
California USA. Our goal is to promote amateur radio in Scouting. Past &
present Scouts & Scouters. Being prepared with Ham radio helping community
and country.

28,000 vists to our www site. Current projects: National Hurricane Center;
Jamboree on the Air matchmaking hams with Troops; Scout discounts on ham
equipment; Donation of old hts to Troops.

Offical ARRL approved as JOTA info site.

Learn how to stay in touch on long backpack trips.

Mel Goldberg KO6TF
ASM Troop 319 & Webmaster Advisor
[e-mail]
http://scout.net/ScoutRadio/


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:53 1996
From: Phil <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TH415 Manual and Mods
Date: 2 Jul 1996 19:29:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4rbtak$[e-mail]>

I would like to find someone with an operating manual for the Kenwood
TH-415 and any information on Modifications for same.

Please forward your responses to:

[e-mail]

Thanks in advance to all for taking the time.

Phil



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:54 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Anyone Received Their Vanity Calls Yet?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4r8fdg$[e-mail]> <4ra39n$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:38:41 GMT

Jim Martin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I applied for just plain "W"  The FCC rejected my application....go
>figure!  :)

Well, if you would have at least asked for W1A you might have gotten it.
Then you'd have as short a call as Jordan's King Hussein, JY1.

I wonder if President Clinton would be awarded a 1x1 call if he requested
one? Imagine the pile ups everytime he'd get on the air!

Jeff KH2PZ / KH6


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (ab4el)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Commercial Lic. Exams-10 Aug-Franklinton NC
Date: 3 Jul 1996 01:24:52 -0400
Message-ID: <4rd074$[e-mail]>

         THIS  MAY   INTEREST  YOU  OR  A   FRIEND

       Commercial Radio Operator License Examinations:

      Franklinton,  NC  - -  10 August 96 (Saturday)  - -  11:00  a.m.
                     Franklinton Public  Library
              Corner of Mason St. and Hillsborough St.
         (shares a parking lot with Police Station-Town Hall)

   Licenses Attainable:

   WARNING!  At this exam session, we will be using NEWLY-ISSUED question
   pools for elements 1, 3, 7, 8 & 9....and perhaps for elements 5 & 6.

   Marine  Radio  Operator  Permit  - -  Element  1
   General  Radiotelephone  Operator  - -  Elements  1  &  3
   GMDSS  Radio  Maintainer  - -  Elements  1,  3  &  9
   GMDSS  Radio  Operator  - -  Elements  1 &  7
   Ship  Radar  Endorsement  - -  Element 8
   3rd Class Radiotelegraph Operator's Certificate--Elements 1, 5, T1 & T2
   2nd Class Radiotelegraph Operator's Certificate--Elements 1, 5, 6, T1 & T2
   1st Class Radiotelegraph Operator's Certificate--Elements 1, 5, 6, T3 & T4

   NOTE: Exams will be held on the 2nd Saturday of EVEN-numbered months.

   For more details, call:

   Steve Modena  AB4EL  [phone]   [e-mail]
                                or Terry Murphy  AB4VJ  [phone]



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone Received Their Vanity Calls Yet?
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 08:18:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4rcvs1$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4r8fdg$[e-mail]> <4ra39n$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman) wrote:

>Jim Martin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>I applied for just plain "W"  The FCC rejected my application....go
>>figure!  :)

You forgot to quote the,   " N  O  T ! "   :)

>Well, if you would have at least asked for W1A you might have gotten it.
>Then you'd have as short a call as Jordan's King Hussein, JY1.

Hmmm....Whiskey One Alpha.....now there's a thought.  But, I'm happy
with the call I have a plan to keep it until it or me expires.

>I wonder if President Clinton would be awarded a 1x1 call if he requested
>one? Imagine the pile ups everytime he'd get on the air!

No thanks.  When he got elected I retired from the military.  If he
became a ham I'd retire from hamming just the same.


===========================================
cheers! jim martin, wk1v
lowell, mass
http://www.shore.net/~jjmartin/jjm.htm



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Electric Generators
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 12:25:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4rdsak$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

>I am looking for information on electric generators.  I would like
>to know your experiences with various brands and/or engines on the
>generators.  I know Honda is considered the best, but how about some
>of the less expensive brands.  Thanks in advance.

>Henry  WA0GOZ
>[e-mail]

Henry,
    I think we just had a similar request for information about
generators a while back, but I don't remember who it was from so I
can't direct you to him.
    I have had numerous generators here, as our power company is not
very reliable.  Honda is by far the best.  The Honda I have has been
running for years with only oil changes and gas tank fills.  Coleman
makes a few generators, and they are very common here (I have one
now) but they are problematic.  Mine has had an oil leak around the
crankshaft in the motor since new.  Everyone I know who sells Coleman
gets a bunch back for repair.  I also had a Homelite (5K) at one time
that worked, but was a gas hog and VERY noisy.
   If you are interested in something you can run and not have to be
fixing constantly, the only thing I would recommend would be Honda.

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:58 1996
From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Grow up and use this newsgroup for ham radio before it's too late
Date: 3 Jul 1996 15:23:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4re3a4$[e-mail]>
Keywords: IMMATURE


Come on guys! (and girls) This newsgroup is for the discussion of ham
radio news, equipment and related topics. There is actually very little useful
information that passes through this newsgroup. Most of the posts are nasty,
rude and deal with everything except amateur radio.

Somebody asks a simple question and instead of getting an intelligent
answer, they get blasted for their spelling mistakes, or the way the
question was phrased, or how wrong they were to ask the question,
or scolded for having a no-code tech license and insulted for not
knowing Morse code. I think it is time to grow up and put all of the
fighting and bickering aside. Let's try to ignore the rabble-rousers whos'
sole purpose is to flame everybody and keep the fights going. If you do
not give these people attention, they will go away. Telling them to go away
will only make them more stubborn!

We are in more danger than ever of getting our bands taken from us.
We defend ourselves by telling those responsible about how great ham
radio is, and how it is needed in the event of an emergency. Well, all
they have to do is take one look at this newsgroup and they might
convince themselves that hams are useless and nothing more than
a bunch of fighting cry babys!

Would any of you be proud to show this newsgroup to the "Little LEO"
people as part of our defending their attempts to get our frequency space?
I don't think so! Although amateur radio is actually a very prestigious hobby,
a lot of the posts to this newsgroup show otherwise. The Internet is getting
larger at a rate beyond everybody's expectations, and this newsgroup
represents amateur radio. I would like to see more people making posts
that represent our knowledge, history, importance to technology and
dedication to public service instead of embassassing us in front of the
whole world!

73 from Steve, WA3RVT




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (N4181E)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ERROR ON PREV. POST ABOUT APRIL 96 QST
Date: 3 Jul 1996 18:49:36 -0400
Message-ID: <4rete0$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (N4181E)

I FLUBBED....I NEED A COPY OF APRIL 1966 (ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO!) ARTICLE
SUPPOSEDLY ON PAGE 16 FOR AN SSB ADAPTOR FOR A NATIONAL HRO-60 RECEIVER.
THANKS, [e-mail].


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:57:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Dengler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need info on Airwave DTMF decoder
Date: 3 Jul 1996 20:28:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4rel5s$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I have a pair of Airwave AW-321 sequential DTMF decoders with no info or
schematics.  If anyone here has info on these units or knows where Airwave is
located please e-mail to [e-mail].  Thanks.

Bob NO6B



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jason Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,fidonet.ham,rec.ham-radio,rec.ham-radio.swap,slac.rec.ham_radio,su.org.ham-radio,rec.radio.swap,tnn.radio.amateur
Subject: Kenwood TM-742 6m/2m/70cm FORSALE
Date: 3 Jul 1996 22:03:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4reqmr$[e-mail]>

VE3TYG Has the following item for sale :

MUST GO ! HF RADIO ON THE WAY !
Kenwood TM 742 Mobile FM
        6 Meter Module Installed
        2 Meter Module Installed
        70 Centimeter Module Installed
        All Modules Expanded RX
        Detatchable Faceplate
        Service Manual Available
        Original Box Included
        Near Mint Condition
        Antenna & Triplexer Included

        Asking $1200
Contact Jason VE3TYG if interested at [phone]
or [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jason Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,fidonet.ham,rec.ham-radio,rec.ham-radio.swap,slac.rec.ham_radio,su.org.ham-radio,rec.radio.swap,tnn.radio.amateur
Subject: ICOM Dualband Handheld FORSALE
Date: 3 Jul 1996 22:03:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4reqof$[e-mail]>

VE3TYG Has the following item for sale :

MUST GO ! HF RADIO ON THE WAY !
Icom W2A Handheld
        2 Meter / 70 Centimeter
        Both Modules Expanded RX
        BP84 Battery & Wall Charger
        External Speaker Mic Included
        Mint Condition NOT A SCRATCH ON RADIO

        Asking $400
Contact Jason VE3TYG if interested at [phone]
or [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (James Wylder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NO CODE ARGUEMENT IS DEAD
Date: 4 Jul 96 07:00:44 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

It wasn't CBers, not Technician Class HAMS,  nor the NO CODE licensees,
but rather those mature Amateur Radio Operators (real HAMs) whom spent
time and EFFORT in mastering the international morse code -- and maintained
proficiency in same -- who saved the day, the 4th of July [ID4].

Yes indeed, ET would not have been defeated by all the high tech jet fighters,
nuclear weapons, macho US president and the modern day Chuck Yeager (aka
the fresh prince of bell air) had IT NOT BEEN for those steller performance
of those HAMs whow clicked away on the straight key to muster the support
of fellow independence day fighters worldwide.  Yes indeed, HAMs who
knew the code came thru once again.

So nest time one argues for no code, tell them to shut up and get a life;
or at least become a bit more professionally proficient in their craft.

NO CODE -  give it a rest.  A long rest.

And remember, it CW just may save YOUR life.

                                 73,
                                       Jim Wylder,  KE6OJ
adeiu,

jim



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Re: Need INFO, EVERYONE PLEASE READ!!
Date: 4 Jul 1996 09:28:42 -0400
Message-ID: <4rggua$[e-mail]>
References: <61e7cc$173112.3a2@MYCROFT> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, tkc <[e-mail]> wrote:

>">I have 12 guage wire i can use, but need a little info,  what length
>">should i cut it at, to use it at 145.470  (local Repeater)  I dont
>">have any kind of swr meter or anything but my radio  which will let me
>">know when its pumping out full power...
>
>       Just a second...
>When we took the Ham test didn't we have to show that we could figure
>frequency to wave length?

No, you merely showed that you knew how to memorize all the questions and
answers provided to you in advance.

MD
--
--
--  Who needs looks when you've got taste?
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Online DBs of other radio service callsigns?
Date: 4 Jul 1996 09:49:06 -0400
Message-ID: <4rgi4i$[e-mail]>

Anyone know of any sites that have on-line databases where you can
search for the callsigns the FCC has allocated to other radio services?

I'm intermittently picking up what appears to be a spur from what appears
to be a repeater with the callsign "MNKX230" in the lower portion of the
440mhz band, and I'd like to find out who is responsible for this callsign.

MD
--
--
--  Who needs looks when you've got taste?
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:05 1996
From: Desert Storm <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT-736R
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 10:26:18 +0100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

HI,

I JUST BOUGHT A YAESU FT-736R AND PLS IF YOU

HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS FOR IT LET ME KNOW.

THANK U AND BEST WISHES FROM KUWAIT

73,FAISAL  9K2CA
E-mail :[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:06 1996
From: "Bill Turner, WB4ALM" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW saves the world!!
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 14:35:00 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Randol Williams wrote:
>
>
> HMMMMM, I wonder it was farnsworth?
>
> ditditditdit ditdit

Shouldn't that have been:      didididit   didit


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Steve King)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CW and ID4 (SPOILER)
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 14:57:46 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I don't want to discuss the merits of the movie in general.  That is
for the rec.movies.flame newsgroup.  I just want to add my $0.02 worth
on the CW or no CW requirement debate.  I'll wait a few seconds while
you decide if you want to continue or not.



















Okay, assuming you've gone this far, you are interested in what I have
to say.

I hope the movie ID4 puts an end to the senseless bickering on whether
or not CW is so antiquated that it should not be required knowledge.
In the movie, the space monkeys have tapped into our satellite network
and use it to coordinate their activities.  When the humans are ready
to make their big counter-offensive, they have to coordinate with the
remnants of other air forces around the world.  Since the satellites
are tapped, they have to resort to CW on HF.

Now, if using CW to communicate after the space monkeys invade isn't a
good enough reason to learn CW, I don't know what is!

Steve
--
http://www.afn.org/~afn35036  (EL89tq)| "I have never really understood the
http://www.afn.org/~gars              | rationale behind sports...which
http://www.afn.org/~quilters          | all seem like exhausting new ways of
PGP pub key: finger [e-mail]  | getting injured while sweating." -LGW


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:08 1996
From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Re;Utility Stations
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 15:28:14 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: thomasb <[e-mail]>

thomasb wrote:
>
> Looking for a up to date list of HF Utility Stations,such as Coast
> Guard,and any Military or frequent traffic(USA/Canada area).I used to
> be in to listening to HF rxcvr alot about 5 years ago.But became to busy
> and lost touch of freq. changes.Just last week I unpacked my Sony 1020
> Rxcvr and strung up my dipole antenna,but I don't have alist of freqs.
> to monitor,so if anyone has a list of freqs. they wish to share please
> leave a message @ my email address it is [e-mail].
> ThankYou in advance!!!
> Tom


Hello Tom -- take a look at the following URL's

http://www.scancat.com/ctlg-frq.html

http://www.comland.com/pub/lists/niteowl/10/dir27.html

http://www.leonardo.net/berri/wun/wun_files.html

Hope this helps

73
Rod




--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:09 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: Online DBs of other radio service callsigns?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:12:01 GMT
References: <4rgi4i$[e-mail]>

In <4rgi4i$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:
|I'm intermittently picking up what appears to be a spur from what appears
|to be a repeater with the callsign "MNKX230" in the lower portion of the
|440mhz band, and I'd like to find out who is responsible for this callsign.

The FCC for one thing can't allocate anything with that call; the
internation agreements limit that one to (I think) Great Britain.  FCC call
signs (and DOD ones for that matter) are all A, K, N and W call signs.

        /JBL
--
Nets: [e-mail]  | "How does a mouse let me move the cursor anywhere
  or [e-mail]|  I want?"  "What are address busses?"  "How do
pots: [phone]  |  icons work?"              --Time-Life Books
ARS:  KD1ON          |


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robbert J. van Herksen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How to get a ham licence in the United Arab Emirates??
Date: 4 Jul 1996 16:23:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4rgr6o$[e-mail]>

Hi there,

There is a possibility that I will stay in the UAE for a considerable
amount
of time.
I know that it is hard to get an official ham licence there, but would
be really thrilled to receive information about this.
Maybe persons who read this message, have friends or people they know,
that have a ham licence in the UAE.

Please reply by email : [e-mail]


THANKS!!!


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Online DBs of other radio service callsigns?
Date: 4 Jul 1996 17:13:52 -0400
Message-ID: <4rhc6g$[e-mail]>
References: <4rgi4i$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Joel B Levin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In <4rgi4i$[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:
>|I'm intermittently picking up what appears to be a spur from what appears
>|to be a repeater with the callsign "MNKX230" in the lower portion of the
>|440mhz band, and I'd like to find out who is responsible for this callsign.
>The FCC for one thing can't allocate anything with that call; the
>internation agreements limit that one to (I think) Great Britain.  FCC call
>signs (and DOD ones for that matter) are all A, K, N and W call signs.

If the repeater is IDing in Morse, it might be WNKX230 if the first dit is
being missed. That ID smells like GMRS.

>       /JBL

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:11 1996
From: Claude PIOT <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Asking QSL info
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 18:45:05 +0200
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Did somebody know the QSL info of A71FF ???
Many thanks and
73 de F3PZ


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Todd Jonz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: A faked ham apology from burt
Date: 4 Jul 1996 19:01:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4rh4e0$[e-mail]>
References: <4qq73q$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes:

        > I do not have one and they are easily faked.

We know, Burt, we know.




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Todd Jonz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Date: 4 Jul 1996 19:15:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4rh596$[e-mail]>
References: <4rftcm$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Greg Thompson) writes:

        > the new movie Independence Day...gave a real scenario
        > for keeping the morse code.

Greg's right.  Would whoever maintains the Code/NoCode FAQ add a
new entry under "pro":

        o  CW will be the only means of getting the message
           through after the aliens invade


KB6JXT, Todd




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:13 1996
From: Terrill <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio Shack Duobander?
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 20:28:46 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I heard another ham on a repeater today saying Radio Shack is coming out
with a 2m/220 duobander. Any info on that? Yeah or Nay?

terry/n6eed


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:15 1996
From: Randol Williams <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW saves the world!!
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 00:11:48 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

Bill you are quite right.  Then again, I was trying to be humourous.
I know, dont give up my day job.  I've been an active ham for 27yrs.  I
have not touched a key on the air in over five years. That was when I
discovered the joys of packet/amtor/digital, etc. But I still like to
get on HF voice.  Also I got into ATV.  My point being, there is a ton
of other things to learn in amateur radio.  It is a dynamic hobby.
Always changing and growing.

Truthfully Bill, all this hooey about code stuff...Like there isn't
enough really important crap to worry about in the world?

IF IT AIN'T FUN, THEN DON'T DO IT!

73,     Randy, N7CJE


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (A.G. von Luternow)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Flamers and Flotsam
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 03:42:24 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4rgsku$[e-mail]> <4rh9n7$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 4 Jul 1996 20:31:35 GMT, [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)
Landing, NJ wrote:

>>   [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt ) writes:
-snip-
>
>> Name calling seems to be your only talent and your penchant with intelegenc
e
>>  is very interestng,
>
>spelled intellegence.....but that's another story altogether
>                     /\
-snip-

... perhaps the word y'all are reaching for is intelligence ....



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Lu Hui-Hua)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HELP, need help
Date: 5 Jul 96 07:56:09 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <199607050115.SAA25566@.mail.ucsd.edu>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

hello everybody, here is BD7IX(Lu Hui-Hua) from P.R.CHINA.
somedays ago, i send a mail at here , said want to know how
to made a modem(tnc) myself, my plan is use TCM3105 or
AM7910(7911) chip to do it, but unfortunate, the chip is
not produce. soi think maybe motorola's MC145442 OR MC145443
can replace it. but mc145442(3) only can use 300 baud
(CCITT V.21 OR BELL 103).
who can tell me the alternative else?
and if i use MC145442(3), who can give the circuit design about it?
please tell me via e-mail [e-mail]
thanks

Lu Hui-Hua*bd7ix*


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael J. Falk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham page in the works...
Date: 5 Jul 1996 08:00:47 -0500
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <4rj3lv$[e-mail]>

Hey everyone.  I'm in the process of writing my home page, which will have a
(hopefully) large list of links.  If you know of a ham page or are in charge
of a ham page which you would like me to add a link for, please drop me an
email and I will be glad to do it.

Thanks and 73.
Michael J. Falk, AA9RK
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Knaus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Special Event Station - Circus Train
Date: 5 Jul 1996 09:47:45 -0500
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <4rj9uh$[e-mail]>

                          Jim Romelfanger, K9ZZ
                           412-1/2  Ash Street
                            Baraboo, WI 53913


                  NEWS RELEASE - SPECIAL EVENT STATION

July 8 and 9: K9JYX/Circus Train Mobile will operate from 1400 UTC until
2030 UTC both days from the Great Circus Train as it travels from Baraboo,
Wisconsin's Circus World Museum (housed in the original winter quarters of
the Ringling Bros. Circus) to Milwaukee with 20 double-length flat cars
carrying more than 60 priceless, fully restored circus wagons for the
Great Circus Parade the following Sunday.  Operation will be on 20 or 40
meters, whichever band is in the best condition, around 7.240 or 14.240.
There MAY be extended hours on July 8.  A 9 X 12 SASE with three units
of first-class postage is required for a certificate. SASEs go to
Don Evenson, K9JYX, 401 11th Street, Baraboo, WI 53913.




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (WeaselBoy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: SF Bay Area ham license test dates?
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 10:34:05 -0700
Message-ID: <weasel-0507961034050001@204.118.173.192>

From: WeaselBoy <[e-mail]>

Anyone who's got a copy of the Ham Radio exam dates for the bay area,
send 'em to me and I'll put 'em up on the <http://www.opg.org> web page as
a public service.

Thanks.

--
Darren Mckeeman         | "I entered this world naked and bloody,
Chief Technical Officer |  and I intend to leave it in the exact
Alpha Online, Inc.      |  SAME WAY" -- Darren P. Mckeeman
San Francisco, CA       | <http://www.creative.net/~weasel>
Otaku Patrol Group #4755| <http://www.alphaonline.net/>


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ray Rocker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hams on Keesler AFB?
Date: 5 Jul 1996 13:28:58 -0500
Message-ID: <4rjmta$[e-mail]>
References: <4q4hl6$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (John N0ISL) wrote:

>I'm looking for someone who can get information on the ham activity on
>Keesler. I'd like to put Ship Island on the air (Its a good IOTA island
>and fairly rare now). Does KAFB still have access to ship Island, and can
>a civilian get access? If you have any info, or are interested in being
>part of a mini-DX-oedition let me know..

Ship Island is visited by hundreds of people every day this time of year.
The beach out there is a popular tourist destination...water much
prettier than in the Sound. There is at least one ferry out of
Gulfport that makes several runs out there a day and they do charters
too I think. The company is called Ship Island Excursions if you wanna
give 'em a shout.

73

--
                Ray Rocker * WQ5L * [e-mail]
Datasync * Your Internet Connection on the Mississippi-Alabama Gulf Coast
Ocean Springs MS / Pass Christian MS / Mobile AL * http://www.datasync.com









From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robbert J. van Herksen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Link two windows95 systems using packet and TCP/IP??
Date: 5 Jul 1996 16:23:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4rjfig$[e-mail]>

Hi there,

I wonder if there are people here, that have experience with connecting
to computer systems using a network, but using a PACKET LINK.

So, instead of a ethernet cable a packet link.

Anyone??

I guess I'll need a packet server on both sides of the link, apart from
the windoze95 systems that are connected to those "packet servers".

Can someone shine a light on this?
I want to prevent inventing the wheel again...

Regards

Rob / TA2IX


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:22 1996
From: "Pat Wilson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Apology
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:05:08 -0400
Message-ID: <01bb6ac6.697eb100$7601e8cc@PW>

People are correct.  I apologize for my behavior on the public usenet.  I
will henceforth not take
the bait and refrain from public outcries.

N0RDQ


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 06 13:58:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ludichrist)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Micro FM Transmitter Schem
Date: 5 Jul 1996 22:35:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4rk5an$[e-mail]>
Keywords: FM transmitter schematics

Years ago I had some schematics for a few very low power FM transmitters
for survailance use, but I can't find them anywhere. Does anyone have or
know where I could get RELIABLE schematics for such a transmitter? Many
thanks in advance! (Please email, as I don't frequent this group -- Thanks)

[e-mail]





From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:10 1996
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From: Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "D" key
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:58:03 -1000
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On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Jim Kehler wrote:

> Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Hey Fellas the "D" key on my keyboard is wearing out fast.  With all this
> >flame stuff on a Ham group I find I am not reading much, just hitting
> >d+d+d+d+d+d+d+d+d, so if you wanna be read by anybody cut out the
> >incivility.
> >                 KH6JF (aka kilroy)
> Does that imply, you are, in fact, anybody ?
> 73, Jim KH2D

That implies I am somebody! But a stupid somebody, as I could just amble
off to TIN and use a single "c" to do the job more efficiently.  That
way I will wear out my "c" key over a longer period of time.

P.S.  Whatever happened to "W2AP"?   He was one of the Digicom pioneers
      for Commodore packet radio users.
                     ***** KH6JF kilroy *****




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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "D" key
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 13:58:08 GMT
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Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hey Fellas the "D" key on my keyboard is wearing out fast.  With all this
>flame stuff on a Ham group I find I am not reading much, just hitting
>d+d+d+d+d+d+d+d+d, so if you wanna be read by anybody cut out the
>incivility.
>                 KH6JF (aka kilroy)

Does that imply, you are, in fact, anybody ?

73, Jim KH2D





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From: [e-mail] (Peter Salisbury)
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Date: 6 Jul 96 22:10:33 GMT
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list



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark A. Horton KA4YBR)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 186,000 mph, What is it anyways, EH?
Date: 9 Jul 1996 10:55:57 -0400
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WILLIAM W MUNSIL ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Isn't it 186 000 miles per second rather than miles per hour?
: 73 de N7AOU/ATV.
: --

Furlongs per millisecond?   :)   HIHI
        73 de KA4YBR
--
------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Horton Associates                 [e-mail]
Systems and Network Performance Tuning  [e-mail]
+1.404.373.2526 : 33 45 31 N / 084 16 59 W


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:13 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2 Ranger Communications RC1-1000's
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:06:23 GMT
Organization: Sprynet News Service
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No their Not Ham Radio's but if your looking for some radio's to
travel,go campping or just to have around,anyone can use these.
2 Ranger Communications RC1-1000
VHF 2 channels Green Dot & Black Dot
                                   (154.600) & (167.730) Open Squelch
Squelch Control Switch
On.off / Volume Control
Remote Mic input
New in the box, Never used.
$200.00



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: >>> RF & Microwave components<<<
Date: 8 Jul 1996 22:05:53 GMT
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Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.

A new supplier of Microwave and RF components.


Sea-Ward International (SWI), based in California, supplies microwave
transistors, RF components and amplifiers made in China.

SWI also supplies silicon and GaAs wafers and provide foundry services.

Other products are available. You can check the SWI home page at:

http://www.best.com/~mkyady/swi1.html

or  e-mail at:

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:14 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: A manual for Sparta 602 wanted
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 96 11:27:59 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: A manual for Sparta 602 fm transmitter wanted
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I need a manual for an Elcom Bauer Sparta 602 FM transmitter.

Please e-mail me with any information.
thank you,
John

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Chris Arndt)
Subject: Re: Amateur RADAR?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steven Sampson)
 writes:
>
>You're right it is.  There are basically three modes of radar that amateurs
>are working with.  The first is pulse, the second is CW, the third is a

[good stuff deleted]
>
>The reason you don't hear much, is that it is not mainstream.  If it isn't
>about contests or morse code, it isn't fun for 95% of the hobby.  It's really
>the 5% left that play/study any of the other modes.

So, tell us more. I wondered about amateur radar for a while now, also.
What can you do with it? What bands? How much power? Can you work with
old marine radars? How do you ID?

Enquiring minds and all that...

Chris KD6DSI



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:16 1996
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From: [e-mail](JOSEPH A CIRA)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs.ads,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.bbs,
Subject: AMATEUR RADIO BBS
Date: 9 Jul 1996 15:38:59 GMT
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        HELLO FELLOW HAMS:and FUTURE HAMS !!!!!!!

        HAM BBS dedicated to amateur radio !!!!

There is a DEVOTED AMATEUR RADIO BBS in town ,from your
ARRL/LAX  affiliated club coordinator , JOE CIRA , KB6AXK ...........
Everything and anything about AMATEUR RADIO will be found here,
IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!!


        HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS at 1-818-584-1952....
        24 hrs,8-n-1,anyspeed.......
        running 486/66 with 2.1 gig of space !!!
        qsl route database,clubs,newsletters,bulletins,shareware,utility
        mods,programs,test ques,lists,software and much more....
        VEC/VE exam & class  list for all So.Cal.
        sample exam tests and answers for all class's..
        ARRL mirror of all there files !
        Using Wildcat v4.11 software..
        easy to log in and no FEE's it's FREE !
        6,000 FILES IN 119 FILE AREA'S..so far !

        latest list of AMATEUR RADIO WEB SITES & PAGES
        now 2,405 websites & pages !!!!!!!!!
        and GROWING FAST ?!?!!

P.S. also available on the web at:

        http://www.padl.ac.at/schule/chemie/bob.htm
        look for web-sites by KB6AXK on the page........

        FYI:there are roughly ,over 33,000 pages,just pages,
        that relate to amateur radio/ham radio on the web ???????
        My list is primarlly websites..............


73's & 88's de kb6axk,joe cira,ARRL/LAX/ACC.
INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:> [e-mail]
/EX
S


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From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:17 1996
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From: John Mullan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur Radio Test Session
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 10:47:40 -0700
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When : Saturday, July 13, 0900
Where: Santa Rosa, CA

Sonoma County Radio Amateurs will host an ARRL VEC test session at
Hewlett-Packard Co. 1400 Fountaingrove Parkway, Santa Rosa CA. Walk-ins
accepted. Please bring copies of current license and any CSCEs, plus the
originals.

John Mullan, KD2LQ


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Dolkas)
Subject: Re: Antennae proximity question
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David Stites ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I just sent for an Alinco DR-150T to put in my rig. I don't want to
: take the CB out as I use it for traffic info near large cities and to
: keep from getting run over by log trucks when I go into the mountains.
: I plan on putting in a combo antenna where the AM/FM one is now. I
: don't care about getting out because I mostly listen.
:
: If I put out 25-50 watts from the 2m antenna a couple of feet away
: will it hurt the CB or standard radio even though the freqs are a lot
: different. I am also wondering about putting a 2m and a hf antenna in
: my attic. How much separation is required between antennae on
: different bands?

Well, that's almost the exact setup I have (only it's an Alinco DR-610 dual
band).  The CB is hooked into the car antenna with a splitter, and the 610
to a Larsen glass-mount (sorry, Gary) which is about 3 feet from the AM/FM
antenna, and about the same elevation.

I haven't found any problems with one radio interfering with another.  My
bigest fear was that the 2m Ham signal would klobber the car FM, and that
hasn't happened.  The only problem I've had is that I sometimes get a muting
of the Tape player audio when transmitting at 50w on 2 meters.  No, I don't
know why it's only sometimes, but it doesn't seem to hurt anything, and it's
actually rather useful.  My guess is that the RF is getting into the tape
playback front-end - the opening is on a direct line of sight to the antenna
on the rear window.

Now, as for the 2m and HF in the attic, my bigest problem is that the HF tends
to interfere with the 2m receiver.  My antennas are on the roof, at about
the same level (2m beam is maybe 3' higher than the HF dipole).  When trying
to work RS-12 mode K satellite (tx on 15 meters, rx on 2m) I have to crank the
HF power way down.  It's a balance between not being heard and not hearing.

Good luck,

Greg  KO6TH


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:19 1996
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From: Chris Bremmer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Are there any contesting newsgroups?
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:56:40 -0700
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Hello,
I'm wondering if there are any newsgroups specifically for contesting,
I've been looking but haven't found much,
Thanks,
Chris
N0SHR


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:20 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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To: Chris Bremmer <[e-mail]>

Chris Bremmer wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm wondering if there are any newsgroups specifically for contesting,
> I've been looking but haven't found much,
> Thanks,
> Chris
> N0SHR


Yo! Chris have you subscribed to the contest reflectors ?? If not here
is how:

Goto URL:

http://www.cam.org/~dino/hamlists.html

Scroll down to CT User and subscribe

Scroll down to CQ Contest and subscribe

For Dx scroll down to the DX Mailing List

etc. Lots of others including Boat Anchors, microwave lots of ARRL etc.

Good Reflecting es 73

Rod
--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:21 1996
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From: "carroll j. watkins" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: BANGLADESH HAMS
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Anyone out there who knows of ham radio activity in Bangladesh???
Would appreciate E-Mail to [e-mail].  Thank you


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mick Ishmael)
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Subject: CB repair...what class?
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What class commercial ticket is necessary to do CB radio repair? (no
flames re: CB pls)


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:23 1996
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From: quest (Claud A Furnare)
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Subject: CTCSS CODES FOR ICOM U-16
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:57:09 -0800
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I JUST GOT MY HANDS ON AN OLD ICOM U-16. CAN ANYONE OUT THERE HELP ME OUT
WITH THE CTCSS CODES? PLZ E-MAIL [e-mail]  OR IF YOUR IN
CALIFORNIA YOU CAN CALL ME AT 800-7785636.
TNK ES 73 CLAUD KK6KR


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff DeMarco)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW and ID4 (SPOILER)
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>I doubt seriously that in a real emergency enough ,keys and cw capable
>radios would have been found. you don't seriously think the aliens
>could not have decoded the cw when they could intercept the most
>sophisticated communications we had. Get real!
>--
>Gil Baron W0MN [e-mail] Web http://www.isl.net/~gbaron
>"Bailar es vivir" pgp2.6 key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html
>"Cuatro caminos hay en mi vida. Cual de los cuatro sera el mejor"
>
>[Posted with Agent .99e. For info, email [e-mail].]

It seemed to me that they should have at least had paddles, instead of
pounding the brass!

*************************************************
Jeff DeMarco                               WB6KUW
Riverside, CA
[e-mail]                 http://www.pe.net/~jmd
"I am not a number, I am an alphanumeric string!"


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From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Garland)
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>> >If you saw that movie on the guys who crashed in ALERT North Pole you
>> >saw that they had to ressort to CW type communication to talk to the
>> >search party because their battery was frozen (That was not fiction).
>>
>> It's funny that this thread should pop up now.  In the new summer
>> blockbuster "Independence Day,"  almost every major city and military
>> base gets blown up by malevolent space aliens.  The military forces of
>> the Earth end up using CW because it's all they have left (no
>> satellites, tons of RF interference, etc...).  In fact, CW ends up
>> saving the day.  OOPS!! I said too much.  Good flick, BTW.  Well worth
>> the $5.00.

>>  Allan F. Peretz              |  Southern Illinois University,
>>  [e-mail]             |  Senior, School of Accountancy
>>  http://www.pobox.com/~pretzl |  Lieutenant, Signal Corps ARNG

$5 you only paid $5?!


--
     Robert Garland                            NX3S @ N3ACL.PA.USA.NOAM
     Hilltown Township Bucks County               [e-mail]
     Pennsylvania USA                                       Grid FN20ii
                         "Ham Radio is a calling"


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From: [e-mail] (Charles Teclaw)
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Subject: Exam locations nr Fall River, MA?
Date: 9 Jul 1996 15:29:48 GMT
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Looking for novice and tech exam places within about 30 miles of Fall
River, MA between July 10 and 15. If anyone has info, please email to
[e-mail]. Many thanks in advance and 73 de NT3G.


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:26 1996
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From: Cliff Patten <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: famous hams world wide.
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 01:16:24 +0100
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In article <[e-mail]>, ac
<[e-mail]> writes
>
>CALLSIGNS OF FAMOUS HAMS
>
>KB6LQR Jeana Yeager, Voyager '86 pilot
>

Any relation to Chuck Yeager?

(US air ace)


--
Cliff Patten G0 GDW


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From: [e-mail] (Roger Pettengill)
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On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:43:21 -0600, Patrick Cook
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi everyone:
>
>It's pretty strange former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite NEVER made the
>list.

NEVER made the kist? You must have blinked when you came to KB2GSD.

Roger - [e-mail]



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From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
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In article <HHl$[e-mail]>, Cliff Patten
<[e-mail]> writes
>I don't bloody care, it says here that *I* am the pilot, and anyway my
>dad's in the airforce, so if you don't do what I say, he will come round
>and bomb your house....

I am coming to the considered opinion, sad as it may seem, that you are
a daft as I am Cliff!

Me

--
Michael J Wooding G6IQM     email: [e-mail]
http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm & http://www.clearlight.co./~vhfcomm
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
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From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Francis A. Ney, Jr.)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] write
s:

> Patrick Cook <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >It's pretty strange former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite NEVER made the
> >list.  He has to be the OLDEST one of them all.
>
> Who is Walter Cronkite?

If you ever see the movie _Apollo 13_ you'll see/hear him...

---
Frank Ney  WV/EMT-B VA/EMT-A  N4ZHG  LPWV  NRA(L) GOA CCRKBA JPFO
Sponsor, BATF Abuse page  http://www.access.digex.net/~croaker/batfabus.html
West Virginia Coordinator, Libertarian Second Amendment Caucus
"[E]lections amount to no more than choosing between the scum that floats to
the top of the barrel and the dregs that settle to the bottom."
                        - L. Neil Smith



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bradley Granger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Flamers and Flotsam
Date: 6 Jul 1996 21:32:48 +1000
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:
:
: > Name calling seems to be your only talent and your penchant with intelegen
ce
: >  is very interestng,
:
: spelled intellegence.....but that's another story altogether
:
: steve

Actually, the spelling is intelligence.

People in glass houses?

I've never heard anyone on the HF bands, or VHF/UHF for that matter,
taking the time to assist the other operator by correcting his grammar or
pronunciation. What makes text based systems so intolerant?
Brad VK2QQ


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:31 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Flamers and Flotsam
Date: 4 Jul 1996 20:31:35 GMT
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>   [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt ) writes:
>  Jim Steve and Chris,
>

>  Steve you and Chris are quite a team your performance last Christmas
>  aimed at Drew was wonderful. Particularly considering the season.

well..after all it is the season for giving....


> Name calling seems to be your only talent and your penchant with intelegence
>  is very interestng,

spelled intellegence.....but that's another story altogether
                     /\
> are you learning disabled or challenged in some  way?

no. but I work with them on a regular basis, hence my ability to communicate w
ith you on
your level.

> If this is so I would be more than happy to leave you alone please
 let us all know.


>                  73 Jerry


actually, there was nothing in my last statements that named you specifically,
 so why
the defensive posture?  My comments were a generalization which you took perso
nally.

If that's so, I am afraid that I can no longer continue this, as it violates m
y professional oath
of not taking advantage of those with reduced capacities.

Therefore..whomever you  Take care, enjoy life  remember, the world needs to l
augh to stay sane.  Thanks
for helping out

steve


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:32 1996
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From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Flamers and Flotsam
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 96 10:07:49 -0500
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Bradley Granger <[e-mail]> writes:

>I've never heard anyone on the HF bands, or VHF/UHF for that matter,
>taking the time to assist the other operator by correcting his grammar or
>pronunciation. What makes text based systems so intolerant?


Wa'll wi spech Ah cun alwaas pleed Texan actcent.

73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:33 1996
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From: Dave Booth kc6wfs <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT-736R
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 11:58:43 -0700
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To: Desert Storm <[e-mail]>

Desert Storm wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> I JUST BOUGHT A YAESU FT-736R AND PLS IF YOU
>
> HAVE ANY MODIFICATIONS FOR IT LET ME KNOW.
>
> THANK U AND BEST WISHES FROM KUWAIT
>
> 73,FAISAL  9K2CA
> E-mail :[e-mail]

here is one i found...
From: [e-mail] (Rich Gopstein)
Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio
Subject: FT736 2m RX mod!
Date: 15 Jan 91 15:17:09 GMT
Sender: [e-mail]
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb PRI, Lawrenceville, NJ
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I found this on Compuserve.  I tried it on my FT736, and it works!  I
wonder
what the other diodes do?  Does anyone have a service manual for the
FT736?


Fm: Chuck Scott N8DNX 76556,3335

  You can modify the 2 Meter section for 141-154 MHZ by adding D27
(not installed in USA version).  This is normally soldered to the
board but you can easily install it by simply shoving the leads into
the connector.  The 2 Meter section is the middle board looking into
the radio from the top. The connector (J09) is the large one on the
right side of the board, half way back.  You want the cathode (striped
end) of a small signal diode in pin 7 and the anode in pin 4.  Pin 1
is toward the front of the radio.
  To receive over a slightly wider range, place the SAT switch in RX
mode,
press ENT[D] then enter a desired frequency and press ENT[D] again.  You
can
enter any frequency from 100 to 200 MHz this way.  Unfortunately, the
synthesizer does not actually cover that range.  As far as I can tell
the
bottom end is about 138.5 (not quite the 136.5 needed for the weather
sats).
The top end is about 155.6. You can't perform this stunt with the normal
(non-satellite) VFO's.  Also, once a frequency is entered in this way,
it is
possible to tune toward the normal range but tuning away will place you
back
in the 141-154 range.  Using the same method yields aprox 220.0-229.5 &
423.0-454.  You may store these frequencies in the SAT Memories.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
have fun.......


--
Dave Booth


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If you already have an HF rig, Ten Tec makes a transverter that goes from 14
to 50 MHz.  I believe it's around $100.  If you don't, MFJ now has a 6m SSB/CW
transceiver for around $250.  I've worked people across the country using
either of those two rigs with low-elevation dipoles.

If you're not yet on 6m, probably your smartest initial move would be to shell
out 14 bucks for a (postpaid) copy of "Six Meters: A Guide to the Magic Band"
by Ken Neubeck, WB2AMU.  It's available from Worldradio Books, Box 189490,
Sacramento CA 95818.  (Calif. residents add 93 cents tax.)

73,

Rick WB9GYT


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Hedin)
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Subject: Great Circle Maps for Windows...
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 02:55:12 GMT
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Hello !
Are you interested in a program that makes great circle maps?

Contact me and I can email you a program for Windows that makes gcm-
maps for any loacation in the world except north and south pole....

Freeware !


73 / Roger SM3GSJ



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: help 2m ssb
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In article <4rvgto$[e-mail]> warren <[e-mail]>
writes:
>Can anyone tell me what i need for 2m ssb i have ken ts-700 mitli mode
>radio i cant put up a beam i would like to know what other attenas that i
>could use im new to ham radio and would like any input you might have
>thanks

The old TS-700 will do fine, but you really need a beam, even a small
one. Most SSB activity (other than satellite) on 2m is done with horizontal
polarization, so that's what you want to use too. A vertical would give
you severe cross-polarization loss. A 4 element 2m beam is pretty small,
and easily made from bits of old TV antennas, so it can be cheap too. You
could use a quad instead, however. You can make one of those with some
PVC pipe and wire. A dipole would work, but you really want the gain
and directivity that a beam of some sort will offer. It will make a
huge difference.

I have big beams on a tower at home, but I use a little 4 element
yagi made from VHF TV antenna bits for portable work. That works
really well because most TV antennas are designed so that the
elements can fold down against the boom for shipping. That makes
the antenna easy to carry in the car. I just trimmed the back 4
elements down to length, cut off the excess boom, and fitted a
gamma match to the driven element. I've used a mop handle for
a mast on occasion, but I usually carry a telescoping pole. The
ones Radio Shack sells are all right, though a bit heavy and
awkward to carry in the car, but Home Depot has a long handle
they sell for changing light bulbs in warehouses which telescopes
out to 22 feet and collapses down to 5. It's lightweight aluminum
so it is easy to carry. You really should guy it with a beam on
top, but I've gotten away with no guys on calm days.

If antenna restrictions are the problem, this sort of portable
setup might be just the ticket. You can drive to a nice high
spot, put up the antenna, and work some Dx. The little yagi,
or a quad, are small enough, however, that you could use them
indoors. Of course that won't work as well due to the low
height and the near field effects from being indoors. It would
still beat an indoor dipole though.

If you are bound and determined not to use a beam, however, you
could try a halo. That's just a horizontal loop. It works, sort
of, and isn't too big. Its one advantage is that it is omni-
directional, so you don't need to rotate it, but it has zero
gain. It's ok for casual use while mobile.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:37 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How to get a ham licence in the United Arab Emirates??
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 96 02:15:05 -0500
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Robbert J. van Herksen <[e-mail]> writes:

>I know that it is hard to get an official ham licence there, but would

The best source of information is the International Desk at the ARRL. That way
you will get the straight scoop,


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Finn)
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Subject: Re: How would removing the CW test help amateur radio? (was Re: code/no code survey)
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[e-mail] (Rich McAllister) wrote:

>In article <4qvhbq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dan Finn) writes:

>>>The future generation of hams might well not care if code is
>>>required or not.
>>
>>Please provide a shred of evidence. Every ham radio poll on this
>>subject contradicts your assertion.

>Please provide a reference to these polls of future generations.
>The methodology interests me (I'd like to ask them a few
>questions about stock prices, for example.)


In context of the original statement,  the "future generation" refers
to kids who are hams and not future hams who are not yet even kids,
so your sense of wonderment was falsly triggered. It is also assumed
that these polls are not the sole domain of the middle aged and that
young hams do participate.

As for your more materialistic inclinations,  late night TV does
identify various Psychics who may be able to make those predictions
for you, for a sum of course, if you're interested in that sort of
thing.

73

KR4AJ



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From: [e-mail] (Sean Robertson)
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Subject: Re: ICOM IC-2350H - Need HELP !!
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 96 18:17:16 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>I have an ICOM IC-2350H dual band rig with what I believe is a
>programming bug.
>
>When I transmit on either band it does not mute the receiver on the
>other band.  So when I am key down if someone talks, or was in the
>middle oftalking, on the subband they come through my speaker and are
>picked up by my microphone as background, and retransmitted.  It's quite
>annoying to hear someone talking about a totally unrelated subject while
>I am trying to rag chew.
>
>To head off the inevitable questions, no this is not a harmonic, and
>yes, I have the subband mute functions on in both bands.  This is simply
>a case of the transmitter failing to mute the receiver of the subband.
>
>ICOM offers no direct support, and has not responded to the compuserve
>address someone was good enough to send me.  My dealer, THE HAM STATION,
>says there's no fix for the problem.
>
>I refuse to accept that I have to manually turn down the volume on the
>subband when I wish to transmit, and then remember to manually turn the
>volume back up.  This is not only stupid, it's darn poor engineering.
>
>Anybody got a suggestion for a fix or mod ?
>
>Thanks much,
>I refuse to accept that I have to manually turn down the volume on the
>subband when I wish to transmit, and then remember to manually turn the
>volume back up.  This is not only stupid, it's darn poor engineering.
>
>Anybody got a suggestion for a fix or mod ?
>
>Thanks much,
I have the same radio, it is about a month old. My manual states that the
sub-band mute feature "Automatically mutes sub bands audio signals when the
main and sub bands signals are simultaneosly received" The key word is
received, it doesn't mention anything about muting the sub band when
transmitting. Maybe you have an earlier version of the manual and since then
they have corrected the typo.
   Here is something that may make you feel better. My manual made no
reference to the cross band repeat feature that Icom mentions in their ads.
But it is there. While the radio is on and set to your desired frequencys(they

may have to be programmed into memory and not in VFO mode), push both MAIN
buttons and the SET button simultaneously, hold for two seconds you will see
a flashing "L" underneath each band indicating you are operating cross band.
Now you have your own repeater! To turn it off, hold just the SET button for 2

seconds. NOTE: Turning the radio off does not turn this feature off.
  There is supposed to be a remote code for this feature as well, but again,
the manual makes no reference to it. If you learn of these, please e-mail me.

[e-mail]
KC6VIU


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From: [e-mail] (John Rice)
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Subject: Re: ICOM IC-2350H - Need HELP !!
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In article <[e-mail]>, Bill Stewart <[e-mail]> wri
tes:
> I have an ICOM IC-2350H dual band rig with what I believe is a
> programming bug.
>
> When I transmit on either band it does not mute the receiver on the
> other band.  So when I am key down if someone talks, or was in the
> middle oftalking, on the subband they come through my speaker and are
> picked up by my microphone as background, and retransmitted.  It's quite
> annoying to hear someone talking about a totally unrelated subject while
> I am trying to rag chew.
>
> To head off the inevitable questions, no this is not a harmonic, and
> yes, I have the subband mute functions on in both bands.  This is simply
> a case of the transmitter failing to mute the receiver of the subband.
>
> ICOM offers no direct support, and has not responded to the compuserve
> address someone was good enough to send me.  My dealer, THE HAM STATION,
> says there's no fix for the problem.
>
> I refuse to accept that I have to manually turn down the volume on the
> subband when I wish to transmit, and then remember to manually turn the
> volume back up.  This is not only stupid, it's darn poor engineering.
>
> Anybody got a suggestion for a fix or mod ?


Have to be a 'mod'. The radio is working as it was designed to work. I
don't have a service manual, so I can't tell you how hard it would be to
mod, but it's probably do-able.


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   [e-mail]         |  Miracles, Magic and Sleight-of-hand done here.
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From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:41 1996
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From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 96 22:44:25 -0500
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Todd Jonz <[e-mail]> writes:

>       o  CW will be the only means of getting the message
>          through after the aliens invade

When they make a movie about combat pilots, all the combat
pilots moan. When they make a move about fire-fighter, all
the fire-fighters moan. The experts always recognize the
impossibilities. Only the ignorant accept the premises.
It is impossible that an alien race capable of travelling
between the stars having studied us for at least 50 years,
would not intercept the world-wide CW message and take
action to prevent the worms from doing them in.

I appologize for this awful delphi newsreader which doesn't
keep up with my speed of typing and won't let me go back
and edit a previous line. Above should be fire-fighters
and move should be movie.

It would be funny (HI HI) if half the procoders didn't
believe that "Independence Day" is a good reason to
continue Morse code testing. I'm afraid to continue using
Morse code considering the negative effect it has had
on a lot of otherwise rational hams.

73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC


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From: [e-mail] (Garry Hobart)
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Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 15:18:25 GMT
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On 4 Jul 1996 19:15:50 GMT, [e-mail] (Todd Jonz) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Greg Thompson) writes:
>
>       > the new movie Independence Day...gave a real scenario
>       > for keeping the morse code.
>
>Greg's right.  Would whoever maintains the Code/NoCode FAQ add a
>new entry under "pro":
>
>       o  CW will be the only means of getting the message
>          through after the aliens invade
>
>
>KB6JXT, Todd
>
>
C'mon Guys! Waiting for ALIENS is not a reason for mandating the
learning of Morse Code. Maybe a good reason for mandating F-16
training, though. <<G>>
----------------------------------------------
Principles aren't of much account anyway, except at election time.
After that you hang them up to let them season.
Mark Twain (1835-1910)


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Wilson)
Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
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: In a "real scenerio", the aliens would have intercepted all of the those
: CW transmissions.  But they would have used laptops to copy it
: automatically.

Naah.....no computer could copy the one fist I heard in the movie..
HORRIBLE!

ID4 was a blatant remake of War of the Worlds...instead of a virus...
it was updated as a computer virus that saved us...War of the Worlds
was better.  The only thing ID4 has going for it was the special
effects...it certainly wasn't the acting!

Steve KA6S


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:45 1996
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From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Date: 7 Jul 1996 15:58:19 GMT
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[e-mail](michael silva) wrote:
>Now we're
>all milling around wondering who's going to tell you it was all a JOKE.
> Guess I'm volunteering.  Sorry our fun got out of hand.

Hey Mike, I admitted *half* the pro-code-testers were joking. :-)
Who do you think has been pulling whose leg for years now?

A more believable plot would have been to have the daughter ship's
shielding ability linked to the mother ship so that once the mother
ship was destroyed, the daughter ships lost their shields. Then the
bomb was all that was needed 'cause the virus idea was really hokey.
Most people have trouble just getting their PC RS232 port to work.

73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)




From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:46 1996
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Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Date: 8 Jul 1996 18:43:08 GMT
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Ted F <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In the movie, we had access to some of
>thier technology, so, it was possible to figure out how the processors
>in thier computerized control system worked which made it easy to make a
>virus to hack them.

Wonder where they got an assembler or compiler for the alien computer?

73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC




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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:28:59 -0400
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Bill Newkirk wrote:

> try again..in the movie, she just had to get the system up and running. afte
r the
> shut down, the "white rabbit" object was no longer running to hose up the wo
rks.
> she was at the console and was able to figure out how to run the computers
> (since it was a GUI, of course) and restart the various systems needed right
 at the
> moment...
>
> Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
> Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
> Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
> Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.
While we are already off the subject, I would LOVE to know what kind aof
GUI that was running on a UNIX system. Very nice. The best I've seen is
x-windows(yuck!)
Ted F.
N3SQY


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Schwartz, Barrie L.)
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Subject: JAN Crystals
Date: 8 Jul 96 14:35:00 GMT
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In response to Pheezer's request for where to buy crystals and a
resulting answer about JAN crystals, yes JAN crystals are still around.
Their address is:

                      JAN Crystals Inc
                       2341 Crystal Drive
                       Fort Myers, Florida  33907-4099
                       Phone: [phone]

73's

Barrie W3ENL/8
E-mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:49 1996
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Jean-Pierre Gammelgaard wrote:
>
> Hi there.
>
> I have been unable to find the frequency mods for my radio.
> Here in Denmark where I live, the government has due to EC regulations,
> decided to liberate the rules of which frequencies you are allowed to
> receive. Therefore I would like to modify my radio for a broader
> frequency range.
>
> I couldn't find any description for my radio.
> But maybe you have heard of or seen such?
>

Dear Jean-Pierre,

I do have the same problem. If you receive info about it, could you
inform me too ?
--
Best regards,

Mark de Hoo

E-mail    : [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:50 1996
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From: Dan Kazinski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Kenwood TS-520 manual
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 23:23:10 -0700
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Just wanted to know if anyone knew where I could pick up a manual or
copy of a manual for this ssb transceiver?  Does Kenwod have an 800
number?

Thanks in advance.....

Dan


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Santoro)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Link two windows95 systems using packet and TCP/IP??
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:33:59 GMT
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>> I wonder if there are people here, that have experience with connecting
>> to computer systems using a network, but using a PACKET LINK.

Bill Crocker <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Rob:
>
>It would be unbearably s~l~o~w~!
>
>Bill Crocker

Ahh, but the connect time would be f~r~e~e!
I personally would love to see a Win95 TNC network driver.
73
Dave N2VYP





From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Keith W. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Macon, Georgia Autopatch wanted
Date: 10 Jul 1996 09:34:11 -0600
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I am a Transplanted Georgian (hometown: Gordon) looking for autopatch
access in Macon. I am only there 1-2 times a year for vacation, but my
inspiration for getting my license was my uncle, and it would be worth a
year's repeater club dues to just one time call him on the phone from his
front porch.   If you have any info about the CA repeaters in Macon,
I would certainly appreciate it. Email or post.

Keith Smith KC5CEA [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:53 1996
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From: Chris Broadbent <[e-mail]>
Subject: Modes Used for EME
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Doubtless this will stir up the usual hornets' nest, but that is not the
purpose of the question.  I am genuinely curious.

From what I have read, EME is perhaps the most challenging DX activity WRT
phase distortions, SNR, fading, etc.  The Moon's continually changing
radial velocity, its convex surface, low reflectivity and great distance
present all sorts of interesting challenges.

I read that EME operators use just about every trick in the book in order
to make successful contacts.  They are very much on top with DSP's, real
time Fourier analyses, highly directional antennae, ultra sensitive
receivers, high power transmitters, etc.

Yet, with the much vaunted advantages of the various modern digital modes,
CW is the EME operators' choice of mode.  Why is this?

Again, this is a real question.  It is not meant as flame bait and I hope
it won't trigger another round of the CW vs Digital argument.

Cheers,

Chris ( [e-mail] )


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
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Subject: Morse Code conference
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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:31:40 -0100
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Morse Outreach 2000 World Conference in 1997
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This first world gathering of clinicians, teachers, users, families,
researchers, product developers, and other Morse enthusiasts who
have caught the vision of Morse code applications and research in
AT, AAC, education, and rehabilitation will be held:
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Saturday  October 18 and Sunday October 19, 1997 at the Radisson
South Hotel in Bloomington, Minnesota (Minneapolis suburb) USA.
The Morse 2000 Conference will begin at 4 pm on Saturday and
conclude at 4 pm on Sunday. It has purposely been scheduled, upon
the suggestions of many of you, to occur after the annual Closing
the Gap Conference on AT/AAC held at the same site.
-
Further details and specifics will follow soon.  Please suggest
agenda items and presenters/presentations so that the Advisory
Committee may establish content and schedule soon.  Thank you.
-
Hope to see you at the Morse 2000 World Conference, Oct. 18 & 19,
1997! Mark your calendars now!
-
Dr. Tom King
Morse 2000 HQ
UWEC
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: My kids on 2m
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 00:45:40 GMT
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"Chris Davis" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>My 9 & 10 year old boys think my HT is 'really cool' and would like to get
>their own.  In a moment of fatherly love (and perhaps feeble-mindedness) I
>told them if they could each get a Tech license, I'd get them each a 2m HT
>(nothing fancy, something with thumb-wheels and such, like an IC-2AT).
>Well, it looks like they may soon do it.  My question is: What type of
>behavior is appropriate for kids on amateur frequencies?

Anything within the confines of what part 97 allows.

>I'm sure they're
>not going to spend time talking about their rigs and when the next hamfest
>is.  Is it ok to let them operate simplex at low power and have fun
>looking for frogs by the river (and whatever kids think is fun)?

Sure, as long as they ID themselves properly they can tak about
anything they want.

> I guess
>in my opinion, if they're not tying up a repeater, and (they) are following
>regulations,  it would be all right...?

I'd second that opinion.

> I'm fairly new to this area, and
>the last thing I want to do is get a bunch of local hams ticked off at
>me.

Odds are that no one will even hear them if you pick a simplex
frequency that is not one of the commonly used ones (eg. don't
have them use 146.52)


Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:57 1996
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From: Ted F <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: My kids on 2m
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 15:09:44 -0400
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Tim Huster wrote:
>
> Well......
> We talk about girls, cars, beers, girls, slingshots, beers, catchin' frogs,
> beers, bb-guns and all sortsa cool stuff on the repeaters 'round here!!!
WOW!  Where are you located.  I'd love to talk about something other
thatn the weather and my rigs and so on.  I'm hoping that a few friends
of mine will get thier license next VE session so I can have some more
interesting conversation.
Ted F.
N3SQY


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clinton Peebles)
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Subject: N900/HZQ
Date: Sat,  6 Jul 1996 04:29:32 GMT
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Does anyone have the QSL info for N900 HZQ?

It's a special call for the Olympic games.

Please e-mail [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Nancy Rabel Hall (KC4IYD))
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Subject: Re: N900/HZQ
Date: 8 Jul 1996 15:40:18 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Does anyone have the QSL info for N900 HZQ?
>
>It's a special call for the Olympic games.
>
>Please e-mail [e-mail]

Hello,

To QSL people using those special call for the Olympics just
take the "00" out of their call and qsl directly to them
(unless they say otherwise). For example, N900 HZQ is really
N9HZQ. Looking in QRZ that person is:

  Name: JEFFREY L TUCKER
  Addr1: 2920 SONATA DR
  Addr2: QUINCY IL   62301

I have worked several people using those special calls. They
are either using "00" or "96" in their call or /00 or /96 at
the end of their call. I have been entering these calls
as they would appear in the callbook in my logging program
and then using the comment feature to indicate what they used
on the air. Hope that helps.

73 de kc4iyd
Nancy
[e-mail]

P.S. I had thought that only people in Georgia was using
the special Olympic call so either this person hasn't
updated his address or was in GA when he made the contact.
If I am incorrect, let me know.



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:05:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
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Subject: Re: News from Spain
Date: 10 Jul 1996 15:44:42 GMT
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jose dacal ([e-mail]) writes:
> Hola a todos:
>
>
> Hace unos dias que se creo un nuevo grupo de news sobre
> radioaficionados en espa±ol.
>
>
> El grupo es:                 es.rec.radio.amateur
>
>
> Un saludo.
>
>
> [e-mail]
>
>

?De donde viene eso groupo?  En Espana o Mexico?  Hasta la Vista

--
    Talk with you soon ...
                      Frank Sved
                             Amateur: VE3GID
                               Email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (jose dacal)
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Subject: News from Spain
Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 16:21:13 GMT
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Hola a todos:


Hace unos dias que se creo un nuevo grupo de news sobre
radioaficionados en espa±ol.


El grupo es:                 es.rec.radio.amateur


Un saludo.


[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (harel)
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Subject: Racal info please
Date: 5 Jul 1996 06:45:30 GMT
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I got an Ex-military Racal Transceiver (2-16 Mhz)
Does anybody has any info about it? (Manuals, Elc' schime etc')
Any info will be greatly apriciated!

Thank you & 73

Harel

<[e-mail]>




From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffw)
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Subject: razor blade radio
Date: 9 Jul 1996 01:01:00 GMT
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Hello all. Anyone every heard about making an a.m. reciever using just a
razor blade, nails, wire and a battery. If you had please let me know at
my personal e-mail address, thanks in advance.

                               Jeffrey Weil
                               [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:03 1996
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From: Jeff Bateman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: razor blade radio
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:10:29 -0500
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I really like the razor blade radio. Thank you very much for posting it.
I remember having a secret pen radio when I was a kid. The razor blade
is fascinating. I was going to suggest a mod ( like inserting 80 foot
wire connected to a Drake r8a between the razor and head phones to
improve reception ) but I won't. The razor blade radio stands alone as
an enigma and a shrine to curiousty. May I sell the plans for it in swap
if I give you 40% ? <grin> To the thinking impaired I was just joking
about selling the plans.

Jeff Bateman
KB2MHA
http://www.frontiernet.net/~jeffbat3
Try it you might find something you'll want to buy. :)
Rochester,NY


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sonia R. Lehman)
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Subject: Rivendell Electronics phone number???
Date: 7 Jul 1996 21:04:09 GMT
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Can anyone help me by posting the telephone number from Rivendell
Electronics???

Thanks in advance..


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kenneth A. MacKay, P. Eng.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Schematic needed:  Nordmende Z746 SW receiver
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 17:37:33 GMT
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Can anyone help me out?  Someone "customized" mine.  Now it doesn't
work.  Thanks!



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Rothman)
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Subject: Standard HX240U(AB) Programming info needed
Date: 8 Jul 1996 14:47:35 GMT
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Xref: news2.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:30960 rec.radio.amateur.misc:105157 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:16117 rec.radio.swap:70022

I have just acquired a couple of Standard Radio UHF handhelds
Model HX240U(AB) at a local hamfest. They display the letters CL
when turned-on. These are commercial HT's. No keypad, just 4 buttons
across the top of the front plus light and monitor buttons.

Any help with information (programming/manuals/etc) on these units
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Larry Rothman  VE3LRI
Toronto, Canada


From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:06 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #171 (for air through 7/12/96)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 96 23:10:46 -0500
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #171 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 12-Jul:
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1.   FCC Explores Instituting Electronic Filing of Formal Comments
2.   AMSAT-NA Board Prepares Recommendations to IARU for WRC-99
3.   ARRL Committee Operates Field Day from Dallas Hotel Balcony
4.   Another Handi-Hams Official Injured in Auto Accident
5.   Shuttle Columbia Completes All 11 Scheduled SAREX Contacts
6.   Special Event Station Calendar
7.   New MIR Solar Arrays Provide More Power, May Block R0MIR Signal
8.   "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
9.   KE6VNU Arrested for Jamming Police Frequencies in Oregon
10.  WRTC-96 Event Next Weekend, Seeks Tax-deductible Donations
11.  "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
12.  Morris "Morrie" Shepherd, W7LVI, SK, Trustee of WWDXC Station
13.  Weekly Propagation Forecast
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Funding for the program's transmission and production expense was
provided this week by a grant from Paul Nemmers, N0ZYT, of Prairie
City, Iowa, where "This Week in Amateur Radio" is heard on the KD0KU
repeater on 146.61 MHz serving Des Moines and all of Central Iowa.
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard on the "W0KIE Satellite Network" each Saturday at 9:00 PM
(EDT) on the Hughes Communications SBS-6 commercial communications
satellite, transponder 13B upper, located at 74 degrees west
longitude in equatorial geosynchronous orbit.  The transponder
center frequency is 12.019 GHz; tune up in frequency to 12.031 GHz.
Program audio is on the 6.2 MHz analog subcarrier and carried on
VHF/UHF repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860
kHz.  Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (email [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (email [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.




From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary K. Bennett)
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Subject: WEFAX
Date: 8 Jul 1996 13:29:42 GMT
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I have an AEA Fax III Wefax demodulator, and am interested in setting up
a web site that includes current satellite imagery.  My only problem is
that the software included saves the files as .VGA files which is not a
supported file type.  Does anyone know how to convert these .VGA files to
.GIFs?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

BKB



From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard E Stealey)
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Subject: Re: what happened to BOAT ANCHORS
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Sean McCarthy ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >> In article <4rp9uq$[e-mail]>, William W Janssen
<[e-mail]>


I am the original proponent.  I have been a bit lax in getting it resubmitted
since all the debate during May-June.  I DO intend to get it re-written
soon and resubmitted to uunet for (hopefully) posting as an official
RFD.  I will post status in rec.radio.amateur.misc and news.groups as
I did in the past.

Rick  KT2Q




From [e-mail] Thu Jul 11 17:06:09 1996
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From: Dave Menconi <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: what happened to BOAT ANCHORS
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Joe Bernstein wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, Dave Menconi <[e-mail]> wrot
e:
>

> A proposal doesn't hit those lists *until* the RFD is posted.  The RFD for
> the "boatanchors" newsgroup has never appeared, despite copious flamewars
> in news.groups over the name, which actually went far enough to produce at
> least one diligent "no-NO" campaigner.
>
> Well, I haven't seen a comment against the name in weeks, and for weeks
> before that the only such comments came from radio people, not news.groups
> people.
>
> HOWEVER, the RFD *still* hasn't shown up.  This is why this thread
> exists.  There are bunches of similar threads out there (see, for example,
> those asking where the CFV is for soc.religion.paganism).  However, given
> that there was initially vehement opposition from news.groups people to
> the name, some people think the RFD is being held up on that account.  I
> really don't know what's going on, and I'm kind of worried, because the
> first proposal in which I'm a proponent is about to be sent to the queue,
> and I don't know if it'll be posted in July or September the way things
> are going.  (Nor whether the CFV will appear in August or December...)
>
> Anyway.  Mr. McCarthy is correct.  The person who "starts the process", a
> man named David Lawrence -- whose job is called tale (there's a different
> tale for the uk.* hierarchy) -- has to approve the RFD for posting to
> news.announce.newgroups.  Once he's done so, it will appear in the lists
> referenced by Mr. Menconi.  Please do *not* take the boatanchors group's
> absence from those lists as evidence that the proposal has expired.
>
> It hasn't, alas, even begun yet.  (weep...)

Sorry about my misinformation. I haven't been hanging around waiting for boat
anchors (old
computers, right?) but for some other group which HAS done an RFD and is now w
aiting for an CFV. I
made an assumption which was (as with most assumptions) wrong.

Thanks for clarifying it.

_____________________________________________________________
Dave Menconi            EMAIL: [e-mail]  (work)
Computer Game Developer        [e-mail]    (personal)



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:11 1996
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From: [e-mail](Jeff Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Re: 15V too much for mobile radio?
Date: 13 Jul 1996 11:50:27 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brian
Ellsworth) writes:
>
>On 13 Jul 1996 01:31:04 -0400, [e-mail] (Garry P.
Adkins)
>wrote:
>
>>I recently found a 24VDC power supply  in my garage that
>>came from an old monitor.  I think I'm going to use it
>>to power a cheap little radio for base station use. (It's
>>a mobile radio, btw)
>>
>>I'm thinking along the lines of using one of the TO-220 case
>>voltage regulator (maybe adding some big caps for ripple)
>>to bring the 24V down to 12 or 15 volts.
>
>Hmm, let's see. 24 VDC on the source, 1.5 amps, and 15 vdc out, and a
to-220
>case egh? I'd start saving for a nice service manual on that radio if
i were
>you. When that regulator blows from the 14 watts you attempted to
dissipate it
>may fail shorted and put 24 volts into your mobile. Either that or
plan on some
>pretty fancy cooling system for that puppy, it's going to get
screaming warm.

Include a dropping resistor between the supply and the regulator to
minimize the voltage drop (and subsequent power dissipation) across the
regulator.

- Jeff, WA6AHL


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garry P. Adkins)
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Subject: 15V too much for mobile radio?
Date: 13 Jul 1996 01:31:04 -0400
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Hi!

I recently found a 24VDC power supply  in my garage that
came from an old monitor.  I think I'm going to use it
to power a cheap little radio for base station use. (It's
a mobile radio, btw)

I'm thinking along the lines of using one of the TO-220 case
voltage regulator (maybe adding some big caps for ripple)
to bring the 24V down to 12 or 15 volts.  My concern is that
12V may not be sufficient for full power transmit since the
radio expects 13.8.  (The radio only pulls 1.5A at max
modulation, so it doesn't need a ton of juice)

There is a very common 15v regulator available, would that
be too far above the 13.8?  I'm not aware of any 13.8v
parts.

Any help much appriciated!

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
                     --Voltaire
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Garry Adkins                             [e-mail]
USnail: 712 Chestnut St.                 BELLNet:  [phone]
        Kenova, WV 25530-1511


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 800 number for FCC...
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:04:44 GMT
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[e-mail] (TL) wrote:

>Fellow hams,
>
>
>I'm looking for the FCC 800 number which allows you to request the 610-v
>form. I used to have it but no longer :(
>
>Has anyone any news about WHEN the vanity call program is going to start?
>
>Please reply directly to [e-mail]
>
>Laurent F5JTL/WX3W

The Vanity callsign program opened May 31st (Gate 1)  and I think Gate
1A opens July 22.  I got my new call on June 18th.

K4QXX
KE4ZQV old callsign




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From: Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space
Subject: Address of VE6ITV Needed
Date: 15 Jul 1996 01:10:05 GMT
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I just had my first foreign contact today (it was by satellite).
I'd like to exchange QSLs, but I don't have an international
callbook. Can anybody please look up the address for VE6ITV?

Regards,

Brian Webb, KD6NRP


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:14 1996
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Subject: ARLP028 Propagation de KT7H
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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP028
ARLP028 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP49
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 28  ARLP028
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  July 12, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP028
ARLP028 Propagation de KT7H

Is this a last gasp for Cycle 22?  Solar activity jumped
unexpectedly last week, with solar flux peaking at 83.6 on July 9,
and the average sunspot number up almost six points past the week
previous.

Solar flares around the first of the month produced slow moving
protons which affected the A and K index around July 3, 4 and 5.
The highest K index was 4.  Another flare this week is expected to
cause disturbed conditions on July 12 and 13, just in time for the
start of the IARU HF World Championship this weekend.

Look for the solar flux to get back down to around 70 by the middle
of the month, rising again above 70 after July 28.  The next solar
rotation will probably bring the current active region around again
to bump the solar flux up around 80 after August 1.

Sunspot Numbers for July 4 through 10 were 12, 12, 0, 27, 42, 44
and 36, with a mean of 24.7.  10.7 cm flux was 69.1, 68.6, 68.2,
71.9, 81.6, 83.6, and 79.8, with a mean of 74.7.

Here is a path projection for the teams in this weekend's World
Radiosport Championship, which are in the San Francisco Bay Area.

To Europe, 40 meters should be open around 0330z to 0500z, 20
meters should be best from 0600z to 0730z.  There is a small chance
of a 15 meter opening around 2130z.

To East Asia, check 80 meters from 1030z to 1330z, 40 meters from
0900z to 1400z, and 20 meters around 0400z to 1000z and again
around 1400z to 1630z.  There is a small chance that 15 meters will
be open from 2000z to 0800z.

To South Africa check 80 meters around 0400z, 40 meters around
0430z and 20 meters around 0530z to 0700z.

To the Caribbean check 80 meters from 0300z to 1030z and 40 meters
from 0130z to 1130z.  20 meters should be open around the clock,
with the worst times from 0730z to 1100z and 1400z to 1500z.

To the South Pacific 80 meters should be good from 0530z to 1330z,
40 meters from 0430z to 1430z and 20 meters from 0100z to 1100z.
Check 15 meters from 0100z to 0630z.

To South America check 80 meters from 0330z to 1030z, 40 meters
from 0230z to 1100z and 20 meters from 1200z to 1500z and 2230z to
0700z.  15 meters may open from 0100z to 0600z.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:15 1996
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Subject: ARLX017 Hurricane Bertha Update 2
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SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX017
ARLX017 Hurricane Bertha Update 2

ZCZC AX63
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 17  ARLX017
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  July 12, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX017
ARLX017 Hurricane Bertha Update 2

As of 0800 EDT Friday, July 12, 1996, Hurricane Bertha was about 140
miles south of Wilmington, North Carolina.  Landfall is presently
expected to be between Southport and Wilmington, North Carolina,
later today.

ARES teams in North Carolina are operating from the State Emergency
Operations Centers.  The main North Carolina HF emergency net
frequency is the Tar Heel Emergency Net is on 3923 kHz.

The Virginia ARES/RACES teams are expected to be activated today as
well.  The Virginia Emergency Net, Alpha on 3910 kHz will be
handling emergency-related traffic on HF.

The Hurricane Watch Net on 14.325 MHz is also activated.  Radio
amateurs are requested not to transmit on these frequencies unless
directed to do so by net control stations.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
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Subject: Bill Pasternak, Newsline on Radio Show
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Bill Pasternak,WA6ITF, publisher of Amateur Radio Newsline, will be
the special guest this sunday, 7/14/96, on the Ham Radio & More radio
show. Tune in and call in to ask Bill questions on late breaking
amateur radio news stories, such as how hams are involved in Hurricane
Bertha, the "LEO" attack on 2m/440, the repeater co-ordination SPOC,
ham radio business sales up or down, morse code requirement will stay
or go, and more. The toll free number is 1-800-293-5366, fax at
602-241-1540. All the info to listen to the show is below.
Len Winkler, KB7LPW                        [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                         [e-mail]
Phoenix, AZ. 85068-9219

Ham Radio & More Show (host); info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html  (Home Page) (Thanks BARC)
http://www.tapr.org/hrm  (RealAudio site to hear past shows) (Thanks TAPR)

The Ham Radio & More Show airs LIVE each Sunday at 6:00pm ET,
(2200utc), on many local commercial stations throughout the country.
ALSO: LIVE on WWCR Shortwave, 7.435mhz and 12.160mhz, 100,000 watts.(Thanks WW
CR)
ALSO: LIVE on RealAudio at: http://ww2.audionet.com/pub/kbnp/kbnp.htm (Thanks
KBNP)

Also available tape delayed via WWCR Shortwave on Mondays, at 0900utc on 7.435
mhz; Saturdays, at 1600utc on 12.160mhz; and on Sundays, at 0400utc on 5.065mh
z.

Support "WOG", the Written Only General!



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:21 1996
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From: Stan Vandiver <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB repair...what class?
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:56:11 -0700
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Gary is right... you only need a screwdriver and soldering iron.  I just
received my GROL, and it is good for maintaining marine and aviation
equipment, as well as operating that equipment.  Various land-mobile
equipment (CB, police, taxi, etc) does not need a "certified technician"
any longer.  Of course, equipment still must meet specs and not cause
interference... so the employers may DESIRE their techs to have a GROL or
a college degree (or equivalent experience).

73, Stan/KD9BE


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: CB repair...what class?
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Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Mick Ishmael) writes:

>>What class commercial ticket is necessary to do CB radio repair? (no
>>flames re: CB pls)

>Once upon a time you needed a First or Second Class Radiotelephone
>license, then when those licenses were obsoleted you needed a General
>Radiotelephone license, now you only need a screwdriver and a soldering
>iron.

A quick call to the FCC confirms that *no* license is now needed to
do repair work on CB equipment. Incredible. Their ongoing deregulation
is approaching the absurd.

Jeff KH2PZ / KH6


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:22 1996
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From: KG7HQ
Subject: Re: CB repair...what class?
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In article <4s4l5f$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jerry Flanders)
 writes:
>>>What class commercial ticket is necessary to do CB radio repair? (no
>>>flames re: CB pls)
>

No licensing is required for the repair or alignment of Class D Citizens
radio transmtters. The requirment had been drop quite a few years ago.

73's KG7HQ - Mike


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB repair...what class?
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 04:22:20 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jerry Flanders) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman) wrote:

>>A quick call to the FCC confirms that *no* license is now needed to
>>do repair work on CB equipment. Incredible. Their ongoing deregulation
>>is approaching the absurd.

>>Jeff KH2PZ / KH6
>================================================================
>I wonder what is the point in requiring  type acceptance for
>manufacture, if any guy with a soldering iron can "accidentally"
>replace the small output tube with a 4x1000 "by mistake".

Even when a license was required, such things could
happen and often did on an unauthorized basis.

>Obviously,
>NOBODY would be responsible for this "error"

The repair service is still liavel to some extent if
an issue was made of it.

>Looks like no one has to be responsible for the
>"error", doesn't it? I bet lots of these "errors" start happening.
>Nobody has a license to lose, and therefore CAN'T be disqualified from
>repairing them in the  future.

But they could still be fined, especially if it was deliberate.

Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Copying Behind
Date: 11 Jul 1996 12:32:52 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
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>This condition is not a rarity. A lot of people's
>short-term memory is such to prohibit them from
>copying behind. No way are your techniques going
>to cure a biological problem.

Hi Cecil,

Although I basically agree with you, I think (hope) there is a chance
for all of us. May be the key factor is speed. I can paper-copy under
favourable conditions almost 20, and if I listen to random words, sometimes
one is clear to me, similar to a foreign language. Slowing down speed
does, as you mention, not help because I forget the beginning half way
through.

73, Moritz DL5UH



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> Jim Reid <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >To copy behind,  you must be "reading" the code
> >in your mind.  What you are hearing is words,
> >being spelled to you in a different language.
>
> Hi Jim, I don't think you appreciate the problem.
> I cannot recognize a word when someone else spells
> it to me verbally, letter by letter. What makes you
> think I will ever be able to do it with Morse code?
> When a person says the new letter, I immediately forget
> the previous letter and I have to keep repeating that
> single letter, over and over to myself, or I will
> forget even that single letter.
>
> This condition is not a rarity. A lot of people's
> short-term memory is such to prohibit them from
> copying behind. No way are your techniques going
> to cure a biological problem.
>
> I can explain to you exactly how to dunk a basketball.
> Odds are, you still couldn't do it after my most
> careful explaination. Just because I can dunk a
> basketball, doesn't mean the rest of the world can
> learn how.
>
> 73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC


No, but with the initial guidance of instruction, the more you practice
the more hoops you will make...Guaranteed !
I don't beleive that Jim is saying everyone can become perfectly
proficient at copying behind but it is likely that you can do it now,
albeit perhaps not very fast. Practice will of course improve your
ablilty.

Re: lack of short term memory...this too can be a learned fuction that
improves with practice. It has everything to do with your attention span
and ability to concentrate.
I used to suffer from this...I could not read a novel due to fact that
I was a scatterbrain...too many things on my mind to concentrate on the
book.  I would begin reading then my mind would start to wander.
Granted, the material needs to be interesting enough to keep my
attention but thats where practice and peace and quiet play in.
And with CW, a set of headphones was a key ingredient in keeping my
concentration focused. (This one from the "it works for me" files.
I highly recommend headphones when copying CW.)

I don't believe it is a biological problem.  If you have the ability to
learn then exercise will result in improvement.

Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto







---
 ■ NFX v1.3 [000]



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:30 1996
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From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Copying Behind
Date: 11 Jul 1996 19:50:28 GMT
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<[e-mail]> wrote:
>Re: lack of short term memory...this too can be a learned fuction that
>improves with practice. It has everything to do with your attention span
>and ability to concentrate.

Actually, it has everything to do with the 1958 Ford horn ring that
penetrated the left side of my brain.

>I don't believe it is a biological problem.  If you have the ability to
>learn then exercise will result in improvement.

Bet me $100 and I'll show you my MRI. As a result of the accident, my
speech processing baud rate is about half normal. It takes me a few
seconds to recognize someone and remember his name. I lose words in
mid-sentence. If I don't write something down that I've heard, it
will not be remembered. And I'll never be able to copy CW like I
could before the accident. Good thing I was already a general when
it happened.

73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)




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From: Rick Miller <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CW and ID4 (SPOILER)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:48:22 -0500
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On 12 Jul 1996, karl dundee wrote:

> One minor trouble about the Military & CW - The MARS program dropped all of
> the CW nets, and the mode from ALL of their operations. <A year or so ago...
>
>   If they did, the active military probably did quite a while back.
>   How many Navy RM's still learn CW in school?  Do they still even teacxch
> it?

I had [US] Navy training as a Cryptologic Tech (Radio branch), for which
the *main* *emphasis* was Morse code reception.  Essentially, the purpose
of the CTR rating was to transcribe ("copy") Morse transmissions into the
electronic systems.  I had to reach 26 GPM with random-letter groups to
pass the training.

That was back in 1987.  The last I heard (on my last tour as a reservist
on Okinawa) the "CTR" rating was going away, to be merged with the CTT
rating (which did mainly HFDF and TTY stuff).  All the CTRs were being
put through cross-training back in 1992.

I guess not enough "enemies" were using much Morse, and the computer
equipment for automatic Morse reception was becoming more common.  If I
remember right, Techies (CTTs) were still required to "stick" Morse to
about 12 or 14 GPM to pass technical training though.

Boy, it takes me back...  Some of those old Russian trawler operators
had the cleanest, fastest fists you've ever heard.  You could tell they
were using a straight key, too!  It's definitely an art.

"Rigless" Rick Miller
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From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carlyle Gerde)
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Subject: Re: CW and ID4 (SPOILER)
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[e-mail] (Greg Thompson) writes:

>[e-mail] (Bill Sohl) wrote:

>>[e-mail] (karl dundee) wrote:

>>>One minor trouble about the Military & CW - The MARS program dropped all of
>>>the CW nets, and the mode from ALL of their operations. <A year or so ago..
.>
>>>  If they did, the active military probably did quite a while back.

>>They did.

>Nope. They didn't.

>>>  How many Navy RM's still learn CW in school?

>>None.  Additionally, the RM classification has been changed
>>in the Coast Guard to something like Telecommunications Something.

>A lot of them still do.

>>>  Do they still even teacxch it?

>>No.

>Yes. They still teach it at Ft. Huachuca, Az. The Air Force, Army, and
>Navy get taught morse code here.

>73


  What they teach at the Intelligence Center and School at Ft. Hauchuca
is Morse Intercept.  This used to track Third World military organizations
who still use CW as a primary means of commo.  The MOS is interesting.
How would you like to get paid to copy high speed Morse all day?




From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:33 1996
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From: Randy Smith <[e-mail]>
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> ..and a question for you. Why did you post an objection to Morse code
> discussions on rec.radio.amateur.policy? Isn't that just as bad?
>
> 73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)

  Yes it was..
  Nice of my news program to include ALL groups in a reply.
  Guess I will have to check that each time from now on.
  Randy


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From: [e-mail] (Dick Hughes)
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On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:43:21 -0600, Patrick Cook
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi everyone:
>
>It's pretty strange former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite NEVER made the
>list.  He has to be the OLDEST one of them all.  How can we put together
>such a list without his name on it (even though his call is somewhat
>new)???
>
>Patrick Cook,
>[e-mail]
>

Better read the list again, Patrick.

Dick Hughes


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From: [e-mail] (Adam Maurer)
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Subject: Re: GPS Receivers
Date: 13 Jul 1996 09:00:57 GMT
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In article mblank@topeka says...
>
>Definately *NOT* a good buy. You may wish to check out the
>sci.geo.satellite-nav newsgroup...some very definitive info
>regarding the different GPS receivers on the market.
>
>On 27 Jun 1996, James DeLoach wrote:
>
>> Which newsgroups carry info on the GPS receivers?
>>
>> What does anyone think of the ICOM GP-22?  I have noticed that it's price
>> has dropped to about $300.  Is this a good buy?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> James ([e-mail])
>>       ([e-mail])
>>

You might be making a big mistake.   I believe Icom and many other
manufacturers bailed out of GPS RXs a few years ago, so after sales
support may be a problem.

I've had a Garmin 75 for over a year now, mainly used in the 4WD, but
also used hand held, and more and more in the shack - great for pointing
VHF/UHF yagis to a target location.

What ever you decide make sure of two things;
1) It can be powered externally - batteries can be very expensive.
2) It can accept an external antenna - some GPS unit do not, and are
   virtually useless inside the cabin of a vehicle or boat etc.

73,
Adam, VK3ALM






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From: [e-mail] (Fred Dunstan iii)
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Subject: Help with Kenwood 820S problem
Date: 14 Jul 1996 18:13:13 GMT
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My 820S will not stabalize on a frequency when I turn it on.  Anybody
know what the problem might be?



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (J.D. Delancy)
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Subject: Re: How to find my grid square
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AC6V ([e-mail]) wrote:
: > Is there a method to calculate my Grid Square?  Or perhaps a
: > shareware program that does this?
: > Thanks for any assistance.


Some time ago, I think about a year or so, someone
made announcement of an IP address that went to
UMICH.EDU and a grid square locator.  The IP started
out as 141.212 but I dont remember the rest.  Anyone
remember seeing that and what the complete IP is ?

    jd

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From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:37 1996
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Subject: Re: ICOM IC-2350H - Need HELP !!
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Along this thread's lines, what D/B rigs are not bad on intermod, and
also deal with this opp. band audio question? I looked closely at the
2350 and am glad that I didn't buy one in favor of researching more.



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Flanders)
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Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Date: 12 Jul 1996 12:38:20 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>
>
>When they make a movie about combat pilots, all the combat
>pilots moan. When they make a move about fire-fighter, all
>the fire-fighters moan. The experts always recognize the
>impossibilities. (snipped)
>73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC

As a submariner, I liked Red October.  The only fault I could find
was that no skipper would put himself that far out on a limb on the
say of a young sonarman.  Most expert sonarmen I know have 20 years
or so experience.
Jim W0OOG/5  14.243 @ 1130 CST (Submarine Vets Net)



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:39 1996
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From: Ted F <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:54:38 -0400
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Gary Zabriskie wrote:
  Wait a
> minute, I thought all communications, including radar, etc. was knocked
> out. Whatr gives?  I know, my wife says" "It's just a movie!" Yes, but at
> least give us some sense of credibility bin a movie.
>
> Also, please explain how someone using a small laptop computer can design
> a program (virus) that will disable an alien spaceship's communications
> and defense systems? And why would the aliens, who are obviously much
> more advanced and intelligent then we are, given the size and
> maneuverability of their ships, not have installed any anti-virus
> software to protect against this threat?  Maybe Norton Utilities can look
> into this as a way to expand their market? Just Kidding.
>
> I thought this was a DUMB movie. Then again, I went and say Congo, and
> Species. A trilogy of dumb movies. I will learn.  Save your $5.50 and see
> a good movie or stay home and watch the sunset. Much more entrertaining.

I think only all satellite comms where out. Phone was disrupted because
cities where gone!  And I'm sure the aliens never even thought of
anit-virus software.  Especially if they where running Win95, They
wouldn't be able to tell what was the virus and what was caused by the
bugs in the op system :)
--
Ted F./N3SQY
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Mail: [e-mail]
"Never go straight, only go forward"


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4s6m3p$[e-mail]> [e-mail] write
s:
>On Jul 11, 1996 15:20:36 in article <Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio>,
>'Gary Zabriskie <[e-mail]>' wrote:
>
>>And why would the aliens, who are obviously much
>>more advanced and intelligent then we are, given the size and
>>maneuverability of their ships, not have installed any anti-virus
>>software to protect against this threat?
>
>Let's take it one step further.   Why would an alien race at least
>a millenium ahead of earth in its technology still be limiting its
>control system to binary logic?   Just take the movie for what
>it's worth - pure entertainment.  KB7ET

Well, it is just a movie, but the choice of binary doesn't mean
the aliens are backward. *Our* first computers used ten level
decimal, but we changed to binary as we learned its advantages
for machine manipulation.

Given the described mental model of the aliens, however, I would
have expected their computers to be more integrated at the program
level, with much more cross checking, fault tolerance, and consensus
building than was displayed. IE at the program level I'd have expected
a high degree of "fuzzy logic" which would be resistant to alien (ours
in this case) code fragments.

This should have been natural to them since they would have to have
evolved to handle abberent individuals in their mental gestalt, else
one crazy alien would have driven the entire race mind mad millenia
ago.

Gary
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From: [e-mail] (Raynard Merritt)
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I guess I found it Burt, gee is that a belly laugh?

Ray



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>   [e-mail] (Garry P. Adkins) writes:
>
>  Hi!
>
>    I've tried to learn morse code for years, but never could.  Eventually
>  I gave up.  In an unrelated incident, I was diagnosed as having a
>  learning disability relating to memory (showed up strongly in learning
>  a foreign language).

You have to take theory (written) tests your learning disability may prevent t
his.

>  What are my options relating to Amateur radio?  Will I be limited to
>  the Novice class (which I now understand is no-code)?  Is there any
>  opportunity for someone with a documented disability to rise above
>  the code problem?

No, novice requires code at 5 words perminute, and there is no way around this
.
technician class requires no code....but you must pass 2 written tests (see ab
ove)

>  I don't really want to spend a lot of time and money if I'm going to
>  hit a barrier that I can't penetrate (code).  Does the FCC have
>  any guidelines for a similar situation?

yes, you can get a waiver of code requirements, but NOT the 5 wpm level you ne
ed for novice class.

I suggest you find a local ham to explain your options.





From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:44 1996
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From: John Mullan <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Learning Disability prevents Morse.  Options?
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Garry P. Adkins wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>   I've tried to learn morse code for years, but never could.  Eventually
> I gave up.  In an unrelated incident, I was diagnosed as having a
> learning disability relating to memory (showed up strongly in learning
> a foreign language).
>
> In the last little while, I've picked up CB as the "path of least resistance
"
> for me.  I've been enjoying it and have been re-considering Amateur Radio
> and getting a license.
>
> What are my options relating to Amateur radio?  Will I be limited to
> the Novice class (which I now understand is no-code)?  Is there any
> opportunity for someone with a documented disability to rise above
> the code problem?
>
> I don't really want to spend a lot of time and money if I'm going to
> hit a barrier that I can't penetrate (code).  Does the FCC have
> any guidelines for a similar situation?
>
> Garry

The Technician class is the no-code class of license in the U.S. galaxy
of amateur radio licenses. It requires the successful completion of
elements 2 and 3a, in laymans terms the novice and tachnician theory.
The Technician class of license grants all privileges on all U.S.
amateur frequencies above 30 MHz, which includes 2m and 440 MHz,
probably the two most popular bands used by U.S. hams. The only amateur
capabilities not available to the Technician class licensee are the more
traditional ham modes on the HF frequencies. If this meets your needs,
by all means follow up and get your license. The FCC requires that you
be able to pass element 1A ( 5 wpm ) code for access to the HF bands.
Waivers can be granted in the case of handicaps for elements 1B (13 wpm)
and 1C (20 wpm), 1A cannot be waived. Hope this has proved helpful to
you in making your decision.

73 de KD2LQ


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:45 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
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Subject: Re: Learning Disability prevents Morse.  Options?
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>   [e-mail] (Garry P. Adkins) writes:
>
>  Hi!
>
>    I've tried to learn morse code for years, but never could.  Eventually
>  I gave up.  In an unrelated incident, I was diagnosed as having a
>  learning disability relating to memory (showed up strongly in learning
>  a foreign language).
>
>  In the last little while, I've picked up CB as the "path of least resistanc
e"
>  for me.  I've been enjoying it and have been re-considering Amateur Radio
>  and getting a license.
>
>  What are my options relating to Amateur radio?  Will I be limited to
>  the Novice class (which I now understand is no-code)?  Is there any
>  opportunity for someone with a documented disability to rise above
>  the code problem?

No code is limited to VHF/UHF and 50 mHz with a license class of Technician

As an ARRL VE, i found no mention of a learning disability as grounds for an
exemption, the most obvious being a physical disability being allowed.


>  I don't really want to spend a lot of time and money if I'm going to
>  hit a barrier that I can't penetrate (code).  Does the FCC have
>  any guidelines for a similar situation?
>
>  Garry

you best alternatice is to contact either of the VEC groups ARRL and W5YI

According to the ARRL..If a candidate presents form 610 that includes a correc
tly
compeleted PHYSICAN'S CERTIFICATION of DISABILITY and PATIENTS' RELEASE
in Section 3, the VE team must accept that document as credit for element 1C (
20wom) in conjunction
with the applicant golding or passing any necessary written element credit(s)
required for
an upgrade and after ensuring that the candidate has met the FCC's initial mor
se code requirement
5 wpm.


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:46 1996
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From: Patrick Cook <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Learning Disability prevents Morse.  Options?
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:50:03 -0600
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On 12 Jul 1996, Steve - KF2TI wrote:

> No code is limited to VHF/UHF and 50 mHz with a license class of Technician
>
> As an ARRL VE, i found no mention of a learning disability as grounds for an
> exemption, the most obvious being a physical disability being allowed.

Aww...Gee, Steve.  Give us challenged people a break, will ya??  For some
of us, just learning the theory (and passing it) can be a big enough
challenge.

Yes, yes, I have heard of quadri-plegics being given exams even at
bedside, but cut us SOME slack and give us SOME credit.  Sheesh!!

Just my humble opinion.....

Patrick



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From: [e-mail] (Moncef)
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Subject: lookinf interface for ar8000
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Hi,

Someone can tell if it is possible to make an interface to connect
my ar8000 to my pc?

Thank you very much.

Moncef
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (MeZ)
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Subject: looking for technical info
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Hi!

        I would like to know where i could find some good technical
information on ham radio's. Give me good web sites, e-mail me DOCs,
tell me where i can find docs, and stuff of the sort. And I want
TECHNICAL, not background info.

Thanks,
Mez.



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:48 1996
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MeZ wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>         I would like to know where i could find some good technical
> information on ham radio's. Give me good web sites, e-mail me DOCs,
> tell me where i can find docs, and stuff of the sort. And I want
> TECHNICAL, not background info.
>
> Thanks,
> Mez.


The ARRL Handbook, from ARRL, Newington CT 06111, telephone
1-860-594-0200 for $38 is about as good a technical intro as one could
ask for. They also have other more elementary booklets.

Bill W0IYH


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Adam Huber)
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Subject: Need MODS for Standard C168A.
Date: 12 Jul 1996 17:09:05 GMT
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I need any mods for the Standard C168A VHF HT.  Extended RX, TX, etc.
THANKS!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Adam Huber
ALUMNI
California State University Long Beach
Internet Address: [e-mail]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:50 1996
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From: "Glenn Powers" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Need Prices for Donated Equipment
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:07:12 -0500
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Recently, the Bradley Unviersity Amateur Radio Club recieved a very
generous donation of the following equipment. For tax purposes, we
are compiling a list of estimated value for each item. If you are familiar
with any of the following equipment, please email me with an estimated
price. All equipment is in Good+ condition will all manuals and cables
(and FEET!).

Drake TR7 Line:
TR7 TRANCEIVER
PS7 POWER SUPPLY
MS7 SPEAKER
WH7 WATTMETER
RV7 REMOTE VFO
MN7 TUNER

Drake TR4C Line:
TR4C TRANCEIVER
AC4 POWER SUPPLY
MS4 SPEAKER
W4 WATTMETER

L4-B AMPLIFIER
L4-PS AMPILIFER POWER SUPPLY
TV-3300 LOW PASS FILTER 30MHZ
DL-300 LOW POWER DRY DUMMY LOAD
D-104 MICROPHONE

Kenwood:
TS450's TRANCEIVER
PS 50 POWER SUPPLY
SP 430 SPEAKER
HS-5 HEADPHONES

Collins:
312B-4 STATION CONSOLE

Kenwood:
TR-2500 2M PORTABLE
MS1 MOBILE STAND CHARGER/POWER SUPPLY
VB 2530 MOBILE AMPLIFIER
SMC 25 SPEAKER MIC
W09-0315 WALL CHARGER
PB-25H BATTERY PACK
Bianchi Leather Case
BC-5 12VDC CHARGER

Yaesu:
FT-225 RD 2M ALLMODE TRANCEIVER BASE

MFJ:
MFJ 986 Tuner (3kw)

Icom:
IC-2AT 2M PORTABLE
IC-CP1 MOBILE CHARGING CORD
       SPEAKER MIC
       BATTERY PACK
IC-290H 2M ALLMODE MOBILE
IC-HMS DTMF MIC

Midland:
13-510 2M MOBILE


Thank you very much.
glenn
President, BUARC



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:51 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
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Subject: Re: OK to PAINT RG-213 COAX?
Date: 13 Jul 1996 15:21:16 GMT
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>   [e-mail] writes:
>  I have some RG213 coax that i had to run up the side of my house.
>  now i need to paint this (to keep wife happy).
>  any problem with painting this stuff with normal latex-based paint?
>
>  thanks in advance
>  john
>  kt4qd


nope, i did  paint away.  don't paint any connectors or you'll never get them
loose if needed

steve


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
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Paul Schleck, KD3FU, will be the special guest this sunday, 7/21/96,
on the Ham Radio & More SHow. Paul is well known on the the Internet
for his Ham Radio FAQ postings, Elmer Resource lists, and so much
more.Therefore, if you have questions regarding the Internet and Ham
Radio, this sunday's show is for you. As always, you can call our toll
free listener call-in line and ask Paul questions directly. All the
info on the show is listed below, so tune in and enjoy.
73



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
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Subject: Re: razor blade radio
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Ramsey Electronics sell a xtal radio kit.  This kit, which I purchased for
$20 or so contains a Diods for detectos.  The instructions show how to use
two razor blades (fox-hole) and lead from a pencil for detector.  It also
includes a piece of Galena.  In the old days, galena whas used because
certain sections where "doped" and only conducted in one direction when
touched with a cat whisker (piece of metal).  The problem was tuning this
radio up one had to hunt around for a doped area until bingo it worked.
Obviously it wasn't a walkman.

Interesting kit.  I suggest you should try it first since it is very
simple and interesting.  Also, depending on the taps in the coil, you can
receive commercial, shortwave, any band.  Selectivity is the pits, though.







Ben E. Cline ([e-mail]) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]>,
>       [e-mail] (Brian Longwell) writes:
>       [snip]
>>
>>I'd be curious to know if anyone remembers what book that came out of.
>>
>
> I remember building a foxhole radio from a diagram in an "All About"
> book.  "All About" books were a series of books for kids.  I guess this one
> was "All About Electronics" or something like that.  I guess foxhole
> radios appeared in a number of places: books and magazines.  The one
> I built had the razor blade/pencil lead detector and a coil whose form
> was a cardboard toilet paper tube.
>
> I've really enjoyed this thread.  I'd forgotten all about the fun I
> had building this simple radio.
>
> 73, Benjy
> --
> Benjy Cline, AC4XO, Ph.D.
> Virginia Tech Computing Center
> [e-mail]
> http://benjy.cc.vt.edu:1951/~benjy/
>


--
    Talk with you soon ...
                      Frank Sved
                             Amateur: VE3GID
                               Email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Flanders)
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Subject: Re: razor blade radio
Date: 12 Jul 1996 12:28:26 GMT
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I built a razor blade radio while in Boy Scouts. (~1950) The plans
were in one of the merit badge manuals.
Jim W0OOG/5


In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>In article <4rsb0c$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeffw)
writes:
>> Hello all. Anyone every heard about making an a.m. reciever using
just a
>> razor blade, nails, wire and a battery. If you had please let me
know at
>> my personal e-mail address, thanks in advance.
>>
>>                                Jeffrey Weil
>>                                [e-mail]
>>
>>




From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:55 1996
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From: Mark Lindsey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: razor blade radio
Date: 13 Jul 1996 18:04:13 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In article <4rsb0c$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffw) writes:
> >From: [e-mail] (Jeffw)
> >Subject: razor blade radio
> >Date: 9 Jul 1996 01:01:00 GMT
>
> >Hello all. Anyone every heard about making an a.m. reciever using just a
> >razor blade, nails, wire and a battery. If you had please let me know at
> >my personal e-mail address, thanks in advance.
>
> >                               Jeffrey Weil
> >                               [e-mail]
>
>
> I made many of these razor-blade radios as a young boy, from plans in a
> Boy's Life magazine. Probably about 1959 or so.  They really are amazing.
> NO EXTERNAL POWER!  I haven't actually built one for years, but need try it
> again also!
>

If I remember right the key is to have a selenium coated razor blade so that i
t
will act as a rectifier (detector).  Modern blades may not be selenium coated,
I don't know.  The idea of fishing into the wall might work...I took a mirror
down in my bathroom last week and found several in the old location of the
medicine cabinet!

Good Luck  If all else fails you can probably replace the razor with a simple
diode!

Mark
Warrenton VA


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Subject: Re: razor blade radio
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In article <4rsb0c$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffw) writes:
> >From: [e-mail] (Jeffw)
> >Subject: razor blade radio
> >Date: 9 Jul 1996 01:01:00 GMT
>
> >Hello all. Anyone every heard about making an a.m. reciever using just a
> >razor blade, nails, wire and a battery. If you had please let me know at
> >my personal e-mail address, thanks in advance.
>
> >                               Jeffrey Weil
> >                               [e-mail]
>
>
> I made many of these razor-blade radios as a young boy, from plans in a
> Boy's Life magazine. Probably about 1959 or so.  They really are amazing.
> NO EXTERNAL POWER!  I haven't actually built one for years, but need try it
> again also!
>

If I remember right the key is to have a selenium coated razor blade so that i
t
will act as a rectifier (detector).  Modern blades may not be selenium coated,
I don't know.  The idea of fishing into the wall might work...I took a mirror
down in my bathroom last week and found several in the old location of the
medicine cabinet!

Good Luck  If all else fails you can probably replace the razor with a simple
diode!

Mark
Warrenton VA


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:57 1996
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Subject: Re: razor blade radio
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On 13 Jul 1996, Mark Lindsey wrote:

> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > In article <4rsb0c$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffw) writes:
> > >From: [e-mail] (Jeffw)
> > >Subject: razor blade radio
> > >Date: 9 Jul 1996 01:01:00 GMT
> >
> > >Hello all. Anyone every heard about making an a.m. reciever using just a
> > >razor blade, nails, wire and a battery. If you had please let me know at
> > >my personal e-mail address, thanks in advance.
> >
> > >                               Jeffrey Weil
> > >                               [e-mail]
> >
> >
> > I made many of these razor-blade radios as a young boy, from plans in a
> > Boy's Life magazine. Probably about 1959 or so.  They really are amazing.
> > NO EXTERNAL POWER!  I haven't actually built one for years, but need try i
t
> > again also!
> >
>
> If I remember right the key is to have a selenium coated razor blade so that
 it
> will act as a rectifier (detector).  Modern blades may not be selenium coate
d,
> I don't know.  The idea of fishing into the wall might work...I took a mirro
r
> down in my bathroom last week and found several in the old location of the
> medicine cabinet!
>
> Good Luck  If all else fails you can probably replace the razor with a simpl
e
> diode!

Razor Blade Transceivers would put even the most DIEHARD of QRPers to
shame.  So much for NorCal being the king of the QRP world....  :-)

Patrick Cook, KB0OXD
Colorado QRP Club #215
[e-mail]

P.S.:  Rich, W0HEP, what do you think??  A possible way to promote ham
       radio (QRP in particular) to the local boy scouts for JOTA???



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: news.groups,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
Date: 14 Jul 1996 13:14:31 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
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In <4sa9e0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) writes:

>Rick Stealey, KT2Q has done a fine job crafting the RFD.  Now let's all
>pull together and get the administrivia out of the way without any stupid
>squabbling and bickering over nothing..........

I couldn't agree more -- he did a terrific job and the proposal
deserves wide support.

Rolfe
W3VH

--
Rolfe Tessem         |     Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
[e-mail]        |     96 Morton Street
[phone]       |     New York, NY 10014


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:06:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (A.G. von Luternow)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Seeking CW Partners in Atlanta
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:19:46 GMT
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On Fri, 12 Jul 1996 03:57:58 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>Looking to experiment/learn CW and work it on 6m or 2m in the Atlanta,
>GA area. Am presently a Tech who has passed the General written exam
>but just starting to learn CW. Would like to locate someone in the
>area who could do slow speed QSOs with to practice CW.
>
>    If interested, Send email to me at:   [e-mail]
>

        You might want to speak to Jim Altman, N4UCK. Jim should be
able to refer you to a local club where you can find a CW elmer.

73 de n4jvp
Fritz


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:07:00 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Sideband Q-codes ?
From: [e-mail] (Steve Lee)
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Date: 14 Jul 96 07:06:43
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Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.

Thanks,
Steve



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:07:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (gudmundur)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: tnc/windows irq question
Date: 15 Jul 1996 03:25:25 GMT
Organization: silverlake stable
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Distribution: world
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    Hello,
Here is a simple question. I have a kpc3 connected to my pc and it is
on com3 irq5 (I know, strange configuration). I want to communicate
with the tnc via the terminal program in windows. Windows allows me to
select com3, but it won't let me change the default irq from 4 to 5.

Does anyone know how to switch the interrupt from 4 to 5? Can I use
edit to change something in WIN.INI or SYS.INI. I peered into those
files, but didn't see the irq's defined.

   TNX and 73 from KD3SH



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:07:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,news.groups
Subject: Re: what happened to BOAT ANCHORS
Date: 11 Jul 1996 14:12:13 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Health Science Center
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On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:32:55 -0700, Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie <dragonsl@sc
n.org> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, Dave Menconi <[e-mail]> wrote
:
>>Sorry about my misinformation. I haven't been hanging around waiting for
>boat anchors (old
>>computers, right?) ...
>Actually no, radios (which is part of the problem, understanding what is
>meant by the name)

Render unto me a ****ing break.

Do you honestly, seriously believe that there'd be confusion that a group
named rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors would be about *computer hardware*?!

Note, in particular, that the original poster called it "boat anchors", not
the real name.
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
http://k5zc.hsc.uth.tmc.edu       | adequately be explained by stupidity.
            "Just because I'm a superhero doesn't mean
              I have to smell poo gas." -- Freakazoid



From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:07:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,news.groups
Subject: Re: what happened to BOAT ANCHORS
Date: 13 Jul 1996 18:37:38 -0400
Organization: Shore.Net; a service of Eco Software, Inc. ([e-mail])
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Recently, Hank Van Cleef and others have wondered:

>
>Oh?  Where's the RFD?  I see someone claiming to be a proponent who
>says he hasn't submitted it.  Why don't you do something about getting
>an RFD going.  You've talked nearly three months now, and no RFD.  Without
>any RFD the group is never going to become a reality.
>
>
Hello everyone:

Patience is a virtue and evenything comes to those who wait.....

Now that th cliches are out of the way, I have received private e-mail
from the person who is the proponent, Rick Stealey that indicates that the
RFD has been filed and the process is underway.

Use the democratic process to voice your opinions!  Be respectful of the
other person's views but state yours clearly and rationally.  Some of the
discussion about Boatanchors name got a bit out of hand.  Anyways, in
order to pass the CFV stage we need VOTES for the newsgroup.  Most people
on the net don't know that they have a say in these matters but they
indeed do have a vote (or if they're from Boston, two or even three!)

I am going to marshall up some support in the ham radio community for this
newsgroup because I feel that it truly represents the amateur radio hobby
and culture as I like to practise it.

73,

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:07:04 1996
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From: Tom Lewis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Where is Borg Instruments?
Date: 13 Jul 1996 21:55:57 GMT
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Does anyone know how I can contact "Borg Instruments"?

Any help would be appreciated.

(((73!)))

Tom Lewis - AB5CK




From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:07:05 1996
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From: "Glenn Powers" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WWW Ham Radio Virtual Library Page
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:12:09 -0500
Organization: Bradley University Amateur Radio Club
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The World Wide Web Virtual Library Page for Amateur Radio has recently
been
updated. Features include: General Information, Organizations, Clubs,
Callbooks,
Callsign Search Engines, FTP Sites, Companies and Manufacturers. It's at:

http://www.meaning.com/pointers/wwwvl-ham.html

come on over and have a look!
glenn


From [e-mail] Mon Jul 15 17:07:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Yeasu FT51 Impressions
Date: 15 Jul 1996 14:30:02 GMT
Organization: Mercury Computer System
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Message-ID: <4sdkla$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
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I recently acquired a Yeasu FT51R dual band HT and sold my FT530.
Here are my impressions of the radio.

The programming "philosphy" is very similar to the 530 so it was easy
to get going with.  The speaker mic (mic and headphone jack) are the
same so your current speaker mic and packet radio cables dont have to
change.

Improvements over the 530:
=========================
1) Alphanumerics on the display for station ID (or whatever you want)
   User programmable alphanumerics for the autodial memories also.
2) I personally like having the volume control by the buttons on the
   display rather than turning a knob on top.  Less likely to change
   while hanging on the belt. This is purely a personal preference.
3) Smaller size, fits in a pocket better.
4) Easier to use, less "button functionality". The 530 has about 4
   functions per button and is impossible to remember.  The 51R has
   user-help messages to improve this and a "set" mode where many of
   the operating parameters are set with alphanumeric assistance from
   the radio.
5) Computer progammability.  I suppose this is a nice feature.  I decided
   however NOT to buy that at this time.  One of my pet peeves is all the
   people who have gear they can't operate.  I decided to forgo the
   computer programming at least until I an very comfortable setting
   freqs, tones, memories, ctcss encode/decodes, etc... by hand.
6) Cloning capability.  This would be very handy if you go to Dayton
   for example with a bunch of people and you all want to be set up the
   same way.  This is the only time I ever use stuff like dtmf paging
   etc....
7) The spectrum scope (or whatever Yeasu calls it) came in very handy
   while monitoring Dulles airport freqs last week looking for the tower
   and ground freqs.  I like it better than scanning.
8) Only 9.6v for 5W out, 4.8v for 1.5W out.
9) VERY loud audio at max volume.  The 530 was piss-weak.

FT530 Features I miss:
=====================
1) Clock on the display
2) Battery voltage available on the unused VFO.  (the battery voltage
   is available in set mode)
3) No DC input jack!  This should be a standard feature so you can use
   it in an emergency when your batts are gone.  You need to buy an
   accessory to connect the unit to a DC power source.
4) Ease of access to the backup lithium battery.  I havent found yet where
   it might be in the 51R.

After looking around a while, I discovered that relatively new 51Rs appear
for sale in the $375-$410 range.  You can get $240-$250 for a FT530, a few
bucks more it you throw in some of your accessories.


Just my 2 cents worth.

BTW
Current 2x1 and 1x2 unused Extra Class callsigns are available (free) on
my WWW page listed below.

Bob

--
/*******************************************************************
 *                Bob Levine                                       *
 *                KD1GG/KB1BRM/VK2GYN/7J1AIS                       *
 *                Manager of Application Engineering               *
 *                Mercury Computer Systems                         *
 * ----------------------------------------------------------------*
 * Opinions expressed in this message are my own personal opinions *
 * ----------------------------------------------------------------*
 *          Personal Web Page http://www.ultranet.com/~bob/        *
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:33 1996
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From: Akram Busaidy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: WANTED (Grundig 700)
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:24:53 -0700
Organization: JP Morgan
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Do get in touch please.


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kn3a Plaques)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur Radio Plaques & Engraving
Date: 20 Jul 1996 02:51:35 GMT
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http://members.gnn.com/kn3a/plaques.htm



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:35 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQ Aomori/JP
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:59:21 -0800
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Lines: 3
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CQ Aomori/JP de VE7AOT

73: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:36 1996
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From: [e-mail](Steven D. Olson )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: clubs jersey shore
Date: 21 Jul 1996 20:11:04 GMT
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I might be relocating to the Mansasquan, New Jersey area and am looking
for active amateur radio or repeater clubs/groups in that area.  Please
email me at [e-mail]   Thanks.  Steve, WO9L


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan)
Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.swap,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS: Cushcraft 124WB 2-mtr beam 10.2dB Gain
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:24:44 -0700
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Hello and 73,
I have for sale in nice Condition a Cushcraft 124WB 2-meter beam
with 10.2dB gain sells new for 65.00 will sell for 35.00 ...
73, Alan   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:37 1996
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From: Bill Meara <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: N2CQR/HI8 QSY TO W4-LAND
Date: 18 Jul 1996 19:37:01 GMT
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P.S.  I plan on staying on the air until the bitter end (28 July) All I
have left is a QRP Heath HW-8 and a trusty dipole. Look for me around
14.030     73    Bill    N2CQR/HI8



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Henri Molhuizen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DX/CONTEST WWW SITE
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 15:32:25 GMT
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For those interested in dx and contest resources on the internet: you
may like to have a look at my site, 'A DX-ers' Paradise' at URL
http://www.pi.net/~dx

73 de Henri, PA3DUA


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:39 1996
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From: "Tim" <[e-mail]>
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Hamfest, Fort Tuthill In Flagstaff, Arizona
July 19, 20, 21, 1996
Arizona's Largest Hamfest

For More Information: http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2425/


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:40 1996
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If you get boared. Check out my Ham Page. Lots of good links!
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/5860
--
Dave Booth
kc6wfs


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (shane)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FOR SALE:  HTX-202 RADIO SHACK HANDHELD
Date: 15 Jul 1996 18:54:02 GMT
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FOR SALE:  HTX-202 RADIO SHACK 2-METER HANDHELD.  Will sell for $150

Please e-mail [e-mail]

Do not respond to a reply in newsgroups



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HELP: Super Morse for Win'95???
Date: 19 Jul 1996 23:16:17 GMT
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Is there a copy avail?? Where?? Cost??
It seems my older version for DOS is NOT compatable
with this new 32 bit Win 95 stuff??

thanks  de VE7-LFA/W7   dave



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:42 1996
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From: Harry Synovetz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 11:52:54 -0500
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Richard E Stealey <[e-mail]> writes:

>Wow! We made it.
>I just want to say "THANK YOU" to all of you who supported the proposal


Thank YOU. Now let's get on with the vote!


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Sved)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: S/W for RTTY thru Sound Blaster
Date: 17 Jul 1996 14:00:42 GMT
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Is there such a thing.  If so I'm looking for it.  Let me know, thanks.
--
    Talk with you soon ...
                      Frank Sved
                             Amateur: VE3GID
                               Email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
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Subject: Power Line Loss
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:33:53 GMT
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I am about to move into a new home.  I am a little concerned about
some big power lines on two sides of my property.  I read that a DSP
unit would help, but probably not take care of all the noise.  Any
suggestions on how to fight power line noise?

K4QXX



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:45 1996
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From: "John A. Palmer" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT 726 R Modules needed
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:33:43 -0700
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Dear List Subscribers:

A friend of mine would like to aquire the 440 and/or 6m module for his
FT-726R. All resopnses are welcome. Please contact me at
[e-mail] or if you know Jim Tucker-KC5QKZ contact him direcly.

73's de KA5VAN


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:46 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Force 12 antennas
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 96 16:19:51 EDT
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Greg,
Check my ham page for Force 12 antennas.
http://www.moonstar.com/~wa4pgm/

73 Kyle



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:46 1996
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From: "Thor Wiegman" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:54:52 -0700
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Why worry about it anyway?  How often do you actually find a need to use
amateur radio to order pizza?  I would think that most people, when
ordering a pizza, would be close to a phone and amateur autopatches are
often half duplex which confuses the hell out of the stupid pizza guys so
why would you even bother.  But if you must try it, go ahead....if the FCC
has a problem with it they'll let you know.



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:47 1996
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From: Les Butler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Yeasu FT51 Impressions
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:38:43 -0400
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Jim

If you like the volume knobs you can assign the top knob as volume on
the 51 if you want to. You'll just lose the ability to change freqs via
the knob.

Les
http://www.cris.com/~lsbutler


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Blackie Lawless)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: EZ-Clone programming software: Opinions?
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:11:33 GMT
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I just checked out the EZ clone web site, http://www.acsys.com and was
interested in their product for programming my Yaesu ft50r.  The
feature that looked interesting is that the interface connects to the
internet allowing users to download frequecy file lists from around
the country.  I am wondering if anybody out there has used their
software and would like to hear experiences.  The site says it is beta
testing, so I would like to hear about "bugs" if anybody has
experienced them.


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:49 1996
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From: Gabe Nemeth <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: HELP: D104 Microphone Schematic Needed
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:53:01 -0400
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Hi and thanks for reading. This is a request for some help. I
purchased a Astatic D104 desk mic and the pre-amp is kaput.
I can replace the pre-amp with a redesigned version, but I prefer to
repair the original. Does anyone have a source on the schematic
for the D104?
Thanks in advance,
73 De VE3SLJ
Gabe Nemeth.


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Durham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Satellite ATV?
Date: 16 Jul 1996 15:35:13 GMT
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Brad, there is no fast scan amateur satellite activity that I know of. As
to using an amateur satellite for broadcasting... broadcasting is not one
of the amateur privileges. We are allowed to communicate, control, relay,
etc., but not to broadcast. ARRL does it for training purposes although
technically it is illegal.

Ken K5MBV   [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan)
Newsgroups: rec.ham-radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.swap,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS: Rohn HDBX-40 for 18sqft of antenna..  in SOCA
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:19:13 -0700
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For Sale, 40 foot tall self supporting tower. Heavy Duty will
support 18sqft of antenna wind load. There is 5 sections each
is 8' tall. This sells new for 475.00 + shipping and or Tax.
Will sell this one for 250.00. Its located 75-miles north of
San Diego, CA This is a pick-up only. It can be picked up in a
Toyota or Nissan type truck or larger. Would also consider
trades such as a 175-watt UHF amplifier or ???? 73, Alan

          [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:52 1996
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From: "Thor Wiegman" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 22:58:31 -0700
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: Absolutely!  First, track down the offending station.  Then, remove said

: station from the air.  A well-placed pin in the coaxial cable does
: wonders!


That seems a bit dangerous.....I know someone who tried that once and
ended up in the hospital with a backside full of buckshot!



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ZaaX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
Date: 21 Jul 1996 15:12:17 -0400
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I am considering buying a Saturn and would like to know if anyone out
there has
had any EMC/RFI problems with one. I will be running 25-50 watts. If you
have
had any problems how did you solve them. Any info on this will be greatly
appreciated.

73 Zack Schinlder
N8FNR


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: It WAS A MOVIE..GET SOME LIVES
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<[e-mail]> wrote:

>As a general rule, whenever someone uses the phrase "get a life" or similar,
>it tells us something about the person using the phrase, mainly that.........

1. They've decided not to become a mortician.
2. They work in the over-taxed Washington D.C. morgue (with bodies
decomposing in its hallways).
3. They work for the Southern California mortuary that got caught
reselling filled grave plots.


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason Reighard)
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Subject: DRSI PCPA PC Packet Adapater for sale
Date: 20 Jul 1996 07:19:43 GMT
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DRSI PCPA PC Packet adpater for sale.
Has 1 1200 baud port
1 rs-232 port for high speed packet modem
software
$150 u.s.+shipping.

Jason KB8SFC
Please relpy via E-MAIL
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:55 1996
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From: "William F. Detschel" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Land Mobile mailing list
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:51:44 -0700
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Hi All
 I used to be subscribed to the land mobile radio list. I changed
service providers last fall (and I unsubscribed from land-mobile before
I did it), annd have not been able to resubscribe from the new ISP.
Is it still around? Anyone got the subscription address? Thanks for
any help.

Replies here or to [e-mail]

Bill
N2IPK


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:56 1996
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From: Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: threading
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 11:25:33 -1000
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Can anybody explain to me, why when we wish to reply to a msg in which
several other replies have been entered into the msg and we wish to
retain the other responses as well as reply,  we always get an error
refusing to accept the reply and it says "unable to post msg due to
more added text than new!" or something like that, so we gotta go
delete line by line a whole bunch of info in order for it finally to
accept our reply???.  There must be someway around that so can maintain
the continuity of the entire original post and replies all together.!!
                      KH6JF




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: License turnaround time
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Organization: Utopia Planetia Shipyards - Mars
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:31:04 GMT
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Just another data point:

Exam taken on 7/8 19:00
License granted on 7/10

Sure beats the 14 weeks I had to wait :-)
/mike

--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai        N1IST       [e-mail]     \|/
-*- === Boston Amateur Radio Club:  http://www.barc.org/barc === -*-
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:58 1996
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From: Jim Reid <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB repair...what class?
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:23:29 -1000
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=======================================
> I wonder what is the point in requiring  type acceptance for
> manufacture, if any guy with a soldering iron can "accidentally"
> replace the small output tube with a 4x1000 "by mistake".

Wonder what the power supply in the CB set will think when
it is asked to operate that 4X1000?  Going to take more
than a simple mod,  but hey,  a lot of technically
qualified people are not licensed radio amateurs,
lets hope they ARE ethical.

73,  Jim, AH6NB


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Byrnes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where is Borg Instruments?
Date: 15 Jul 1996 15:44:38 GMT
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Tom Lewis ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Does anyone know how I can contact "Borg Instruments"?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.


I believe they are located in the Gamma Quadrant.


- John




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:54:59 1996
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From: Bob Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: CW- send and receiver
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BARRY BRYANT wrote:
>
>              Hi,
>
>                I am looking for either software or a device that will
> send and receive cw at any speed.I am looking for cw only,with buying
> all of the other bells and lights that comes with most tnc.
>
>                                 Barry  KA2OYF

See Jan 1995 QST Page 60, "QUICK AND EASY CW WITH YOUR PC"



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Lubash)
Subject: Lat/Long
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I have aquired a propagation program and to use it one has to enter Lat
and Long for the area you wish to reach. Does anyone know of a PC
application that will convert countries and or city names to there
Lat/Long

Thanks in advance,

-------------------------------------------------

Richard Lubash
N1VXW
email [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul S. George)
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I have a question... Is there a consensus as to what is the best (feature,
price, etc.) satellite tracking program available (PC or Mac)?  I've been
using WinOrbit (shareware) and it does a reasonable job, but it does lack
a few features such as tracking multiple satellites in the same window and
the ability to interface with an antenna Az/El controller.

If anyone out there is using one or has an opinion as to which one is
best, I would certainly be interested in your opinion.

Thanks!

--
Paul S. George  n8xqv  ([e-mail])


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete Rossi)
Subject: 10 meter FM frequencies
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I am looking for some popular 10 meter FM simplex frequencies.   I am
familiar with 29.600 and the repeater channels at .62  .64  .66 and  .68
but I can program a few more frequencies into the radio I am using and
trying to find popular freqs for the few unused channel slots I have left.

10 meters has been doing pretty well lately.  Seems to have been open to
one degree or another just about every day during the past week or so... and
some days it has been quite good.

---

Pete Rossi - WA3NNA
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Franky B.)
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Subject: bying equipment in the US
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Hello and thanks for reading my message.

I want to buy a new rig, and because they're a much cheaper
in the US then here in europe I want to buy one in the states.
Now there is still one problem..., I don't know if  have
to pay taxes when I bring the equipment in Belgium.

Are there people on the net with the "right" experience on
how to import electronic equipment on a way I don't have to pay
any taxexs.....

Please let me know
Thanks in advance and 73's de Franky ON1BP   QTH AALTER, BELGUIM (JO11RB)


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:03 1996
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Need a copy of the schematic for an Icom IC-505
Anyone ?

I would gladly pay copying and postage charges.

Thanks,
Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto


---
 ■ NFX v1.3 [000]



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:04 1996
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From: Cliff Patten <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>, Michael J Wooding
<[e-mail]> writes
>In article <[e-mail]>, Cliff Patten
><[e-mail]> writes
>>Apparently, both of them go down quite well at their respective venues
>
>Steady Cliff!!!
>
>Me
>

Just don't know *what* you mean?  8->
--
Cliff Patten G0GDW


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (D.W.Hemphill KC5NG)
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Subject: Re: TM742A in Ford Ranger?
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I am getting  ready to install my Kenwood TM-742A in my new Ford Ranger,
>I am looking for ideas on placing the display panel and any other useful
>information from someone that has already made the install. Thanks

If you don't smoke, you might consider removing the ash tray assembly and
installing the TM-742A's control panel there.  Mount the main chassis on
the rear cab wall behind the driver's seat.  As soon as I can find enough
time, I plan to do just that in my 1994 Ranger, except that the rig in my
case is an Alinco DX-70T hf transceiver.

73 de KC5NG



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:06 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: How About the Movie "Phenomenon" & WB6QLF
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 96 01:51:00 -0500
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What's most puzzling is that, according to "The ARRL Letter" on 7/12/96, a
member of the Hq. staff served as a consultant for the movie.  I too noticed
that is was some type of data mode signal (not Morse) that Travolta was
copying in his head (and noted that to my YL) and that they were operating
voice mode on 30 meters, a band reserved for Morse and data.  I have to wonder
how thoroughly the amateur station sequences were thought out.  Certainly
could have been just as easy to find a high speed morse station and to show
a digital display on 40, 20, or 17 meters for the voice "CQ"....

Just some more mind candy....

73 de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Stillwater, NY
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
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Stephen John Farthing <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Does this mean that regenerative and  Direct Conversion RXs require a
>licence? I can certainly pick up the LO from a DC RX I have on another
>RX so I suppose this means it is "capable of transmitting".

The permissible level of such radiation is no doubt defined in the new
EC EMC standards.  Perhaps an expert can advise us?

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]


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>
>
>How does a dark stain on a deskchair relate to the subjectheader??
>
>
I think the point the man is trying to make is that whilst Chet Atkins
and Ronnie Milksap are famous in the USA they are not exactly household
names in the UK. Probably because C&W has a minoroty following here.
There is a sort of UK equivalent but I don't suppose that Adge Cutler,
the Singing Postman or Eddie Grundy ever had callsigns.

--
Stephen John Farthing MBCS G0XAR
Melksham, Wiltshire UK
RSGB G-QRP 7766


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:10 1996
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[e-mail] (Nick Grose) wrote:

>> I have never heard of Eddie Grundy
>
>What - you don't listen to The Archers?
>You're not British sir!
>You can hear it on Radio 4

I have never heard of Radio 4

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:11 1996
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From: Les Butler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Yeasu FT51 Impressions
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 21:36:07 -0400
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Bob,

Number 2 on your most missed list is Battery voltage missing from VFo.

You can still get battery voltage with the touch of 2 buttons..The 12
volt adaptor is about $40 and slides under the battery,it is more
expensive than most but works well. The clone feature is very handy if
you travel alot because it allows the radio to be programmed via a P.C.
So you can save files for many different cities and when you need to
just take a minute and download it all to the radio.

http:/www.cris.com/~lsbutler You'll see several city files under my
Amateur link for the 51 using ADMS software.

Les


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From: Gerry Mitchell <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 19:41:47 -0700
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I just purchased a Ford Windstar and didn't think too much about any
problems till I got it home. First one was how to get power from the
battery to my radio and then antenna. Had Larsen thru the glass ones on
my truck, but wasn't sure how the would work with tinted glass. Mounted
them and so far all seems well. I get out as far as I did with my truck.

Haven't noticed any engine problems when transmitting.

gerry

KB0PJG  Ft Collins, Co.
--

Gerry Mitchell                     Ham Radio: KB0PJG
Fort Collins, Colorado             http://www.frii.com/~mitch/


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:12 1996
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
AMATEUR (HAM) RADIO PAGES IN CENTRAL UK

Revised for Jul/Aug, "Netscaped" and now even Sound!

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

14,000 visitors to date. If you're not one of them,
Please come and see for yourself.

Thanks to the many loyal supporters to date.

73 de Jeremy G4NJH Jul/Aug 96

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
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Subject: Re: How About the Movie "Phenomenon" & WB6QLF
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 07:57:36 GMT
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John Reed <[e-mail]> wrote:

>But, sure enough, I went home and looked up WB6QLF.  I wonder if he is
>going to talk to the studio for using his call and make some royalties!

I bet he is a member of the movie crew.


"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
                                                       -Pablo Picasso
===========================================
cheers! Jim Martin, wk1v
Lowell, Mass, U.S.A.
http://www.shore.net/~jjmartin/jjm.htm



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:14 1996
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From: "Phillip S. Rutledge" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: HELP: D104 Microphone Schematic Needed
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Gabe Nemeth wrote:
>
> Hi and thanks for reading. This is a request for some help. I
> purchased a Astatic D104 desk mic and the pre-amp is kaput.
> I can replace the pre-amp with a redesigned version, but I prefer to
> repair the original. Does anyone have a source on the schematic
> for the D104?
> Thanks in advance,
> 73 De VE3SLJ
> Gabe Nemeth.

 Gabe= I think I have what you're looking for.  I'll drop it in the mail to yo
u for
your perusal.

  Good luck==Phil (KB1GO)


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard P. Murnane)
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Subject: Re: Learning CW-any pointers?
Date: 21 Jul 1996 12:04:52 GMT
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My article "The Heartbreak of the Morse" has some useful (IMHO! :-) tips...
you'll find it in the Articles section of the Wireless Institute of Australia
(VK2 Division) Web page links at http://sydney.dialix.oz.au/wiansw/links.html

(Feel free to browse around the rest of it as well for info about Amateur Radi
o
in Australia, New South Wales in particular)

73 Richard VK2SKY


--
Richard Murnane VK2SKY
Email: [e-mail]
Web: http://www.zeta.org.au/~richardm
Packet: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:16 1996
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> At the FRRL hamfest yesterday, I passed my 3b written and my 13wpm code!

It's a great feeling isn't it?  I thought I was going to burst
each time I passed one of those CW tests!!

Now you are in for great times on HF!!  And keep working on that
CW;  you will soon want to get into the Extra CW sub-bands to
work some of the neat DX that seems to hang out there.  I have a
bunch of ideas to help bring your CW speed on  up;  just let
me know if you would like an e-mail with a bunch of ideas that
have worked for many,  many other folks over the years.

Aloha and 73,  Jim,  AH6NB
On the Green Garden Island of Kauai


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nadzam)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW and ID4 (SPOILER)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (karl dundee) wrote:
->One minor trouble about the Military & CW - The MARS program dropped all of
->the CW nets, and the mode from ALL of their operations. <A year or so ago...
>
->  If they did, the active military probably did quite a while back.
->  How many Navy RM's still learn CW in school?  Do they still even teacxch
->it?

Yeah, and how many would still use a hand key to transmit with?

------------------------------------------------
Name: Bill.Nadzam  "K8WN"
E-mail: "Bill Nadzam" <[e-mail]>
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New call
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:24:22 GMT
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Kurt <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Does any one know the web page to find a call issued in the last day or
>two.

>Thanks

        http://www.qrz.com/cgi-bin/webcal
73
l

Skid Schermerhorn - W1TTY   http://www.capecod.net/~sscherme
East Sandwich               http://www.capecod.net/~sscherme/bookmark.htm
Massachusetts  02537        http://www.capecod.net/~sscherme/church.htm




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:19 1996
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From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: famous hams world wide.
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 21:58:43 +0100
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In article <[e-mail]>, Nick Grose
<[e-mail]> writes
>I beg to differ.
>You do need a licence to listen to Radio 4.
>(Don't you ??)

You go and buy one - and then tell us all where from!

Mike

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From: [e-mail] (Walter R Francis)
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Subject: Electronic copy of new Extra question pool yet?
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I am looking for a copy of the new Extra question pool in text form if someone
has it.

Also, is there an update to the W5YI programme for the new pool?  If so, where
can that be located?

Thanks!

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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: callsign trivia question
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Can someone tell me when the first KB6xx 2x2 callsigns were issued?

I have had an Advanced Class license since 1968, but didn't bother to get a
2x2 callsign until I renewed my ticket in 1988, after living in 6-land for
13 years.

I'm considering getting an earlier callsign that would reflect my length of
time as an Advanced-Class licensee, under the vanity callsign system, when
the appropriate gate opens.  I'm also considering a certain K6xx 1x2
callsign, if I make it to Extra by the time vanity gate #2 opens.

Any help would be appreciated...

73 de Jim - KF6CR





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From: fcz40a@durango (Pat Bingham)
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Steve Lee ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
: Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.

: Thanks,
: Steve

  Hi Steve,

       Q signals on phone are considered bad form.  You probably would
be just as correct using 10 codes.


       Very 73,
       Pat, K5ETX




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
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Stephen John Farthing <[e-mail]> wrote:

>The Singing Postman was a 60s one off. BBC Radio Norfolk (I think)
>featured him in the early mornings and he went on to pen such hits as :-
>
>Have you got a light boy?

I believe this song was revived very recently in a soft drinks TV
commercial!   I never knew of its origin until I read your posting.
Your Singing Postman of the 60s was obviously a precursor of the "punk"
one in 1977!

73 de G3NYY

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Subject: Re: famous hams world wide.
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In article <[e-mail]>, Walt Davidson
<[e-mail]> writes
>Actually, contrary to your assumption, the Singing Postman WAS a member
>of a punk band in 1977!  I saw him "performing" (for want of a better
>word) at the Railway Hotel, Putney in that year.  I believe he was
>supporting "Johnny Moped" and "Chelsea" on that occasion.

Oh b*gger - hoist by my own petard - I should have known better!

Mike

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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:25 1996
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From: Jonathan David Bhatia <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Kenwood TM741A Separation ...
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Hi..

I just received the DFK3 separation kit for my 741A. It appears I have
everything I need, except for some kind of plate to put onto the radio
where the faceplate was.. Am I missing  part or am I supposed to leave my
radio exposed ??   .

Btw, I plan to mount the radio under the seat, and the faceplate above
the rear view mirror on the headliner.. hints, suggestions are appreciated!
1991 Chevy S-10 Blazer...

Jonathan
__________________________________________________________
Jonathan Bhatia KB5LXA               [e-mail]
Louisiana State University  http://www.tyrell.net/~jbhatia



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bruce Oltman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: S/W for RTTY thru Sound Blaster
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In article <4sirma$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Frank Sved) wrote:

> Is there such a thing.  If so I'm looking for it.  Let me know, thanks.
> --
>     Talk with you soon ...
>                       Frank Sved
>                              Amateur: VE3GID
>                                Email: [e-mail]

Macintosh users also want to know what they can use for RTTY
and morse applications through their sound ports.  Any pointers?

--
Signing off...
  primary: [e-mail] or alternate: [e-mail]
   ...Bruce Oltman


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter A. Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where is Borg Instruments?
Date: 17 Jul 1996 12:04:27 -0700
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>Tom Lewis ([e-mail]) wrote:
>> Does anyone know how I can contact "Borg Instruments"?

In article <4sdp16$[e-mail]>, John Byrnes <[e-mail]> wrote
:

>I believe they are located in the Gamma Quadrant.

My bathroom scale says "Borg" on it, but my weight has not been assimilated.

73,
Peter - KD7MW
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Finn)
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Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
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"Thor Wiegman" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Why worry about it anyway?  How often do you actually find a need to use
>amateur radio to order pizza?  I would think that most people, when
>ordering a pizza, would be close to a phone and amateur autopatches are
>often half duplex which confuses the hell out of the stupid pizza guys so
>why would you even bother.  But if you must try it, go ahead....if the FCC
>has a problem with it they'll let you know.

Yes, ordering pizzas is a very good application for your cellular
phone. Ordering pizzza over 2m just doesn't seem to do much to help
justify amateurs' continued use of that valuable portion of VHF
spectrum.

Dan/KR4AJ




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:40 1996
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From: Michael Herring <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How About the Movie "Phenomenon" & WB6QLF
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:01:02 -0400
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Jim Martin wrote:
>
> Anybody seen the movie yet?  I thought it was good.  Not excellent but
> good.  Anyone notice that WB6QLF (in the movie) who the callbook shows
> as Charles Roblin of Ventura, CA. was calling, "CQ CQ" on voice in the
> 30 meter band, (10.130 something)?  And that the morse code signal
> that the main character was supposedly copying (in his head) at high
> speed was actually a RTTY and a PACTOR signal?
>
> Only a ham would notice something like this...well almost only a ham,
> there are SWLs and a few other hobby types too.
> ===========================================
> cheers! Jim Martin, wk1v
> Lowell, Mass, U.S.A.
> http://www.shore.net/~jjmartin/jjm.htm
I D 4 also has a small part for hams.
73
Mike


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Subject: Re: famous hams world wide.
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In article <[e-mail]>, Walt Davidson
<[e-mail]> writes
>> .... but I don't suppose that Adge Cutler,
>>the Singing Postman or Eddie Grundy ever had callsigns.
>
>WHO??????

It's OK Walt - they were never, to my knowledge, members of any punk
bands, so we don't expect you to know them.

Mike - hastily entering his nuclear shelter!

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From: Rick Miller <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: My kids on 2m
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On 16 Jul 1996, WILLIAM W MUNSIL wrote:

>
> I like to talk about Esperanto.
> --
> Lernu la Internacian Lingvon - Esperanto!
> 1-800-828-5944 or email [e-mail]

Paroli pri esperanto estas bone, sed
estus pli bone paroli *per* esperanto!

Cxu ne?

Ricxjo Muelisto
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In article <[e-mail]>, Walt Davidson
<[e-mail]> writes
>Have you ever seen the advertisement for Dorothy Goodbody Bitter, brewed
>by the Wye Valley Brewery?
>
>"Dorothy Goodbody - goes down beautifully every time!"
>
>73 de G3NYY
>

Reminds me of the song: "I Should Be So Lucky" by what's-her-name.

P.S.... "Room 101 = Where to put Binaries"

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From: Frank Erskine <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>, Walt Davidson
<[e-mail]> writes
>[e-mail] (Nick Grose) wrote:
>
>>> I have never heard of Eddie Grundy
>>
>>What - you don't listen to The Archers?
>>You're not British sir!
>>You can hear it on Radio 4
>
>I have never heard of Radio 4
>
He means the Home Service, Walt...!

73 -
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Frank Erskine
Sunderland


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: I Passed My General!!!
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>I have a bunch of ideas to help bring your CW speed on  up;
>just let me know if you would like an e-mail with a bunch of
>ideas that have worked for many, many other folks over the years.
>
>Aloha and 73,  Jim,  AH6NB

Post'em Jim. Lots of people would like good ideas for getting
their code speed up. I've been posting some methods that have
worked for people. Post yours too. One size does not fit all,
so the more different methods available to people the more
likely they'll find one that works for them.

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
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Subject: RE: CALL LETTERS QUESTION
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To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Call letters question.

 >Lernu la Internacian Lingvon - Esperanto!

As useful as Latin-nobody speaks it.

Learning English is much more useful-it is the Universal Language!
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason Lindquist)
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Subject: Re: New call
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Kurt <[e-mail]> writes:

>Does any one know the web page to find a call issued in the last day or
>two.

The University of Arkansas-Little Rock has a fantastic web-based
search engine.  They update their database from the FCC's ftp
site nightly, so you should be able to get your call within a day
of it being granted... worked for me!

http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign.html

73,
JL

--
Jason A. Lindquist  KB9LCL  <*>       "Unfortunately, no one is listening
[e-mail] (business)       to keystrokes at the moment.  You
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sheehan)
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[e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth) wrote:

>On 13 Jul 1996 01:31:04 -0400, [e-mail] (Garry P. Adkins)
>wrote:
>

>Hmm, let's see. 24 VDC on the source, 1.5 amps, and 15 vdc out, and a to-220
>case egh? I'd start saving for a nice service manual on that radio if i were
>you. When that regulator blows from the 14 watts you attempted to dissipate i
t
>may fail shorted and put 24 volts into your mobile. Either that or plan on so
me
>pretty fancy cooling system for that puppy, it's going to get screaming warm.
>
Shows what you know. Ya big dummy. If you drill a hole in the side of
your freezer to run the cords out of, you can put the whole damn power
supply in the freezer. Voiler!!! Your heat problem is solved!!

Sincerely,
Red Greene



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From: [e-mail](michael silva)
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In <01bb72b7.5bfe6180$18082599@brastoo> JustMe <[e-mail]>
writes:

>....Does anyone remember a
>"cat's whisker", a CK-722, a 6L6, a 1N21, a J-38, a geranium diode,  a
>35Z5, a 12SN7, an ARC-5 ?....

Since there has been a lot of positive reaction to Bob's post I thought
I'd mention that in addition to the well-known boatanchors mailing list
there is a lesser-known mailing list ([e-mail]) dedicated
to vacuum tube homebrew and general thermionic nostalgia.  If you want
to talk about the cake pan 6F8G regen or the breadboard 6L6 TX you
built way back when, or if you want to build such a beast now, come on
by.  Whether you held your first tube 60 years ago or have never seen
one in the flesh you're welcome to join in the fun.

73,
Mike, KK6GM



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:49 1996
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fcz40a@durango (Pat Bingham) wrote:

>       Q signals on phone are considered bad form.  You probably would

>be just as correct using 10 codes.

Pat (and all the other "purists") is welcome to his opinion,
but it's not "bad form" to me, and it damn sure ain't worth
all the bandwidth used arguing about it here!

QSL?

<grinning, running, and ducking>

--
73, de Hans K0HB
--If you go flying back through time and you see somebody else
  flying forward into the future, it's probably best to avoid
  eye contact.


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In <4rgtmc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (RWC) wrote:

>       Well, I *was* looking into possibly starting a hobby out of HAM.
>But judging by these past 2 posts, one by Bill Newkirk WB9IVR, I see that
>the attitudes and childishness isn't lmited to the people on "CB" Radios.
>Perhaps HAM isn't for me after all, if Bill is any indication of the
>types of people that are out there.

If two whimsical comments by two individuals is sufficient to change
your mind about amateur radio as a hobby, I agree that you will
probably not be well suited to it.  Perhaps take up something like
stamp collecting, where you won't need to learn how to interact with
other human beings, even [horror!] those who don't agree with you.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:51 1996
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From: Paul Anderson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Olympic Special Event Station?
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David Spoelstra wrote:
>
> Is there a Special Event station for the Olympics?  Can someone post/email
> the information?
>
> Thanks!
> -David  N9PGH

See the July 19th edition of the ARRL Letter Electronic Update (at http://www.
arrl.org).
It says that "w4o" is the "official" olympic station, and that it's already be
en active
on 20 and 10 meter SSB.  Alternate olympic callsigns for the same station are
w400o,
w96o, and w26o.
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:52 1996
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From: [e-mail](Anthony Severdia)
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Subject: Re: Power Line Loss
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Burch Akin wrote:
>>
>> I am about to move into a new home.  I am a little concerned about
>> some big power lines on two sides of my property.  I read that a DSP
>> unit would help, but probably not take care of all the noise.  Any
>> suggestions on how to fight power line noise?
>>
>> K4QXX
>
>The JPS AN-4 works against this type of noise.
>73
>VE6DK/W6

    Whazzat?  (1/2 the story <G>)  Where can this standard be
found on-line?  I'm have some real problems with power line noise
which often is sporadic.  Some furth info would be helpful.

    Thanks,     W6ANV   San Francisco



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Subject: Re: famous hams world wide.
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In article <[e-mail]>, Walt Davidson
<[e-mail]> writes
>Cliff Patten <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>>You were correct the first time.  It is Loveless (not to be confused with
>>>Linda Lovelace, the porn actress).
>>
>>Apparently, both of them go down quite well at their respective venues
>
>Have you ever seen the advertisement for Dorothy Goodbody Bitter, brewed
>by the Wye Valley Brewery?
>
>"Dorothy Goodbody - goes down beautifully every time!"
>
>73 de G3NYY
>
Has she got any sisters?


--
Cliff Patten G0GDW


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From: [e-mail] (Meyer Toole)
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Donald D. Davis, Jr. ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am considering the purchase of a minivan in the near future, and
: would be interested in anyone's opinions and experiences installing

I have a Plymouth Voyager, and for a while had a TS-50 installed on a
cellular pedistal mount. Installation worked very well, and a quick glance
was all that was required to check frequency. The TS-50 has few controls,
so it was easy to use knobs from memory.
I have a 3 pole magnetic mount and separate Valor whips for each band.
Having the mag mount in the centre of the van's huge roof provided a great
ground plane and with under 100 watts, worked all over Europe.
(Condx permitting!)

Good luck.
Meyer
VE3ECX

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From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
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"Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>So clearly GPS is allowed simply because it is intended for
>general reception.

Yes, indeed.  Provided you can prove it's intended for general
reception, you have nothing to worry about!

Even in cases where a radio transmission is NOT intended for general
reception, you're in the clear provided you can demonstrate that you
listened with the permission of the person making the transmission.
(The same pamphlet states, "If you wish to listen in to messages, you
should obtain the permission of the person sending them.")

Clear enough ... isn't it?

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
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Subject: Re: tnc/windows irq question
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In article <4scdn5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>    Hello,
>Here is a simple question. I have a kpc3 connected to my pc and it is
>on com3 irq5 (I know, strange configuration). I want to communicate
>with the tnc via the terminal program in windows. Windows allows me to
>select com3, but it won't let me change the default irq from 4 to 5.

Sure it will!

Setting of both the IRQ and the I/O port address for each Comport is
done through the Windows Control Panel. Where you go from there depends
on whether you're running Win3.11 or Win95. If you need more help -
yell. 73,
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Email:            [e-mail]
Fax:              303 444 2314
KaWin home page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
Postal address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
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>   I've tried to learn morse code for years, but never could.  Eventually
> I gave up.  In an unrelated incident, I was diagnosed as having a
> learning disability relating to memory (showed up strongly in learning
> a foreign language).
Gary, I can understand how you feel having a learning
disability....however...I was diagnosed as having attention deficit
disorder after I had already gone from ham nothing (no knowledge) to EXTRA
in only 3 1/2 months! If you can learn to read you can learn morse
code..the keys are 1. learning the letters at 22wpm by SOUND and 2.
Listening to them everyday and saying the letter outloud as you hear it.
do this for at least 30 days AFTER you learn your last letter/number or
character depending upon what order you learn them in. If you honestly
follow this procedure you will NOT be able to stop yourself from learning
the code....if you don't believe this....just try it!
                                                           Jerry
.....Look me up..1st call KF4DDA..........2nd and last call AE4PB

            73 and if you want/need any assistance give me a call or
email........



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Just a reminder that, if you're taking part in the IOTA contest,
the latest version (8.08) of Super-Duper for IOTA (SDI) is
available as freeware from http://www.iol.ie/~okanep or by
anonymous ftp from ftp://ftp.iol.ie/users/okanep/sd/sdi.zip

If you're in North America, try anonymous ftp from
ftp://ve7tcp.ampr.org/software/sd/sdi.zip

Included are the full rules and the latest IOTA references (used
with the permission of the IOTA committee).

SDI is the only logger dedicated to the IOTA contest.

Hope to work you all from EJ1D on Bere Island (EU121), Bantry Bay,
County Cork, Ireland.

73,
Paul EI5DI

Web Home Page   http://www.iol.ie/~okanep/
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:55:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jonathon Schelmbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Lat/Long
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 14:21:56 GMT
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[e-mail] (Richard Lubash) wrote:

>I have aquired a propagation program and to use it one has to enter Lat
>and Long for the area you wish to reach. Does anyone know of a PC
>application that will convert countries and or city names to there
>Lat/Long

>Thanks in advance,

>-------------------------------------------------

>Richard Lubash
>
>email [e-mail]


     Latitude : 42.893998
     Longitude : -72.07224
     Grid Square : FN32XV

From the buckmaster callsign server



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From: John Reed <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Independence Day and Ham Radio
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:17:42 -0400
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Bill Bennett wrote:
>
>  good 'ol morse code comes through again.
> -----------------snip----------------------------------------------------
> Only in the movies!!!

Notice that they also said that "Ham Radio Operators are in hiding,
fearing that they would be anhilated (sp)."

GOod ole hams... makes ya feel proud, eh?

John

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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:01 1996
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Subject: Re: Family RadioService-A
From: [e-mail] (Bill Dunn)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:38:00 -0640
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RM>All radios will be portable, with built in rubber duckie no-gain
RM>antennas.  Max power output
RM>will be 500 mw, and max deviation will be 2.5 Khz.  There is no such
RM>thing as base stations
RM>in the new Family Radio Service.  It was intended for people such as
RM>families who are outdoors
RM>at events such as parades, swap meets, fairs, etc to keep in  touch
RM>with each other over short
RM>distances.


   What about CTCSS tones?? I hope not, since it will interfere with
legitimate repeaters, when they use the 12.5 Khz 467 Channels.

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* CMPQwk #1.42-R2* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:02 1996
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From: Dave Sparks <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Copying Behind
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:52:20 -0700
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Gary Coffman wrote:

>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gilbe
rt Baron) writes:

> Reflex copy is just conditioned response. When you touch type,
> you don't think about what your fingers are doing, you just
> think about what you want to say and the words appear on the
> screen. That's because the typing action has become a conditioned
> response. It requires no conscious concentration to perform. It
> is done by the lower brain centers and the reflex systems of the
> brain stem and spine. These are the same systems that control
> walking, jumping, playing ball, etc. If you had to consciously
> think about each muscle's action, you'd fall over because the
> consicous mind would be overwhelmed by the level of detail required
> to be performed in realtime.

While this sounds like a great way to learn code to pass the test,
how would it work in a QSO?  IOW, if I learned to copy code this way,
would I be able to carry on a QSO without writing or typing what I'd
heard, then going back and reading what I had typed/written?

--
Dave Sparks


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don Montgomery)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: PSU Regulator Valves
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Robin Birch ([e-mail]) wrote:

> I am looking at constructing a shunt regulator that will need to control
> 1.2kV at about 200 mA maximum and 20 mA minimum.  Can some one suggest a

I hadn't thought of this idea in years...clamp tubes were used by high
power CW DX hogs that used the clamp to keep the CW keying from blinking
the neighbor's house lights.  The line voltage would pull down once when
the transmit switch was on, and would rise back up during receive periods.

Anyway, you're going to need a tube with healthy plate dissipation, some-
thing like a 450TH triode should do it.

How are you going to control the regulator's plate current?  Back in the
days of class C, the operating bias was used to cutoff the clamp tube.
When the key was up, the operating bias dropped to zero, the clamp tube
grid dropped out of cutoff to zero volts, allowing the clamp tube to
pull heavy plate current.  But then, that was class C CW.  No ballast
resistor was used.

Good luck, and keep one hand in the pocket.  This stuff is dangerous.

73 Don, K6LTS
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Hawkins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: whats your FAVORITE RADIO STATION????
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 21:32:24 GMT
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I need your help.  I am writing a page on Radio Stations in the
United States.  I am mainly looking for FM radio stations that play
rock and alternative.  They can be commercial or non-commercial
college or community stations.

What are the

CALL LETTERS
FREQUENCY'S
AND

IF THEY HAVE A HOMEPAGE WHATS THE

URL?

Thank you.  They information gathered will be placed somewhere on
http://www.cei.net/~hawkmon/

Please reply via EMAIL only

[e-mail]






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From: [e-mail] (Fredric J. Einstein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Minivans and mobiles
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 18:50:26 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mark Boyer) wrote:


>Donald D. Davis, Jr. ([e-mail]) writes:
>> I am considering the purchase of a minivan in the near future, and
>> would be interested in anyone's opinions and experiences installing
>> mobiles in a minivan. In particular, I'd like to find one that has a
>> good mounting location for easy access. Also, I have heard stories of
>> some cars (Toyotas) which suffered malfunctions in the engine control
>> electronics from the RF.  Obviously, I'd like to hear about nay such
>> experiences with minivans.
>>
>

I reply:

        It may not be applicable, but I have a Yaesu FT-900 installed in my
1996 Ford Explorer.  The only ill effect that I experience while
transmitting either SSB or  10 meter FM is that the turn
signal flasher rate speeds up to about double the normal
speed.  No ill effects on the air conditioner or engine
computers.  I use the ham rig on 75, 40, and 10 meters.

Fred



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Date: 17 Jul 1996 17:35:00 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Wolf Harranth)
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Patrick Cook wrote:
> It's pretty strange former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite NEVER made the
> list.  He has to be the OLDEST one of them all.  How can we put together
> such a list without his name on it???

Quoting from a letter of Walter Cronkite to QSL COLLECTION's research file
on prominent hams (quite a different one from what is being posted and re-
posted in various newsgroups):

"I obtained my amateur radio license primarily for use at sea and, to my
regret, I have not had time to participate in the usual ham activities. As
a consequence, I do not have a QSL card and my land-based station is not
now functional."

73 de Wolf OE1WHC
Hon. Curator
QSL COLLECTION

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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Homingin)
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Subject: NEW Direction Finding Web Site
Date: 17 Jul 1996 10:05:02 -0400
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Want to learn all about radio direction finding, hidden transmitter
hunting and jammer tracking?  The Homing In site on the World Wide Web is
now available for your browsing pleasure.  There you will find:

--- Southern California T-hunting, what equipment the winners use
--- International-style foxhunts have come to California
--- Complete design fixes for the Dick Smith doppler set
--- Updates to the Moell/Curlee book (TRANSMITTER HUNTING---Radio
Direction Finding Simplified), including board/kit/parts sources and
building tips.
--- Frequently Asked Questions and answers from the Homing In mailbox
--- Index and subject list of all Homing In columns in 73 Magazine through
September 1996 (over 90 articles)
--- And lots more...

URL is http://members.aol.com/homingin/

Please add it to links at your RDF and ham radio sites.

The Homing In site is written and maintained by Joe Moell K0OV.  It is not
affiliated with 73 Magazine, Wayne Green Enterprises, or any other
commercial entity.

73 de Joe K0OV
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 20 Jul 1996 11:32:40 GMT
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"Thor Wiegman" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>That seems a bit dangerous.....I know someone who tried that once and
>ended up in the hospital with a backside full of buckshot!


Oh yeah...I almost forgot...DON'T GET CAUGHT!!

If you're stupid enough to get caught, you deserve a "backside full of
buckshot."

On the other hand, if you ARE careless enough to be discovered while
enroute to the coax and someone takes the liberties of shooting you, you
may reap a financial benefit beyond your wildest dreams.  With today's
joke of a legal system, you would then be able to hire an attorney and
file a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the property owners for
damages inflicted upon you.

Just make sure it's a nice, big house with a tower and some beams on top.
 A scummy old trailer with a mag mount stuck on the window air
conditioner probably isn't gonna get you much.

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don Young)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kids _are_ interested in ham radio.
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 05:10:09 GMT
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>KD1YV wrote:
>>
>> To prove that they are, please see the following web-page, from the
>> Danbury (CT) News-Times.
>
>
>No, that proves only THOSE kids had no life.
>
>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
>#================#=====================================================#
>| [e-mail]   [e-mail]     MAC is 5% of the market  |
>#======================================================================#

Burt, you must be a real asshole.

I guess you too, have no life, or you would not have that callsign.

Get an life.

Don, KA2IMX/5


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On 13 Jul 1996 17:45:03 -0400, [e-mail] (Garry P. Adkins)
wrote:

:>>There is a very common 15v regulator available, would that
:>>be too far above the 13.8?  I'm not aware of any 13.8v
:>>parts.
:>
:>
:>Through my experience, I would say your fine either way... 12V and
:>13.8V have pretty much become interchangable without a problem.
:>and if you have a tolerance of 1.8V, and there is no problem, then
:>15V should be no problem as well, after all, it's less of a difference
:>than 12 and 13.8...  As long as you're in the ballpark you should
:>be ok.  Just don't attempt 24V. :)
:
:Agreed.  I've been wondering... How close to dead-on is a car's
:13.8?  I bet at low rpm, it gets a bit low...  How about on the high
:side?  Does it ever get up to 15vdc?
:
:I'll have to plug my dmm into the cig lighter and watch it on a few
:trips to see what happens.
:
I dunno about you- but most the cars I get into have about 14.5V on the plug
while running.




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lewis P. Stephens Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I Passed My General!!!
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 09:22:48 -0600
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Contrats and now come talk to me. Evening on 3970 and 3922. Enjoy your new
privilages.

73

Lewis (KM5BH)




In article <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>At the FRRL hamfest yesterday, I passed my 3b written and my 13wpm code!
>
>I just wanted to tell the world!
>
>73
>
>-boB

--
Lewis P. Stephens Jr.                 KM5BH (Amateur Radio Callsign)
Amber, Inc.                           CLARC (Clear Lake Amateur Radio Club)
[e-mail]                     NAMU (NASA Area Macintosh Users)
[e-mail]
73404.1403.compuserve.com


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From: [e-mail] (Dean)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 04:25:17 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Joshua Adams) wrote:
>>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>Last night, I had my first experience with a jammer interfering in my
>QSO
>>with someone.  We just totally ignored him.  My question is, isn't there
>
>>something I can do to stop this?
>
>
>Absolutely!  First, track down the offending station.  Then, remove said
>station from the air.  A well-placed pin in the coaxial cable does
>wonders!

A well placed .45 creates a very small entrance wound and a MARVELOUS
10" diameter exit crater.  Keep that in mind Dreu.



>
>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
> KF4DDM
>



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jens Goerke)
Subject: Re: Minivans and mobiles
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Donald D. Davis, Jr. ([e-mail]) wrote:
> I am considering the purchase of a minivan in the near future, and
> would be interested in anyone's opinions and experiences installing
> mobiles in a minivan. In particular, I'd like to find one that has a
> good mounting location for easy access. Also, I have heard stories of
> some cars (Toyotas) which suffered malfunctions in the engine control
> electronics from the RF.  Obviously, I'd like to hear about nay such
> experiences with minivans.

I equipped my `82 VW Transporter with a platform to support different
transceivers on the dash board <sp?> by inserting a cheap equalizer
as a spacer underneath. I could have mounted almost any rig shorter
than about 25cm (10") tilted in the dash board, but living in a high
crime rate town, I didn't want to expose my equipment too much.
I also added a switch for the aerial so that I can use it from the
back as well as from the front. This setup has worked well for the
last few years.

Since my car is a 50hp diesel without any electronics (apart from the
above mentioned stuff) I don't have any problems with interference.

Hope that helps,
        Jens, DB9LL
--
Good drink, good meat,
Good God, let's eat
 - Homer Simpson


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:15 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Denver Colorado Repeaters...
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To: Mark Roberts <[e-mail]>

Mark Roberts wrote:
>
> I am visiting the Denver Colorado area and would like a list of wide
> coverage repeaters (2m & 440) in the area. If you have info, please E-Mail
> me at:
>
>      [e-mail]
>
> Thanx...Mark (N6UNS)

Howdy mark, for repeater listings try ARTSCI at URL:

http://home.earthlink.net/~artsci/dealers.html


Also try Colorado Repeater WWW Page:

http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/corptrs.html

Have a good trip.

73
Rod in San Diego
--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:16 1996
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From: Jim Reid <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CW Q-codes  & SSB
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 12:18:56 -1000
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> Steve Lee wrote:
> >
> > Could someone post a list of the Q codes used to communicate on
> > Sideband? I know some of them , but can't find a complete list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve

Hi Steve,

Well it is obvious which ones you won't be using.

Anyway, Q signals used on SSB are just part of the
nostalgia of amateur radio,  sort of what CW is
also coming to.;  unless you heard 40 CW last night
during the last hour of the IARU World Team Sport
Championships.  What a bunch of excellent QRQ CW
ops!!  I had a super time,  but next time will be
using a programmed keyer.  Got pretty excited at times,
the result was some pretty inaccurate keying!!

From what I could hear,  there are hundreds/maybe
thousands of CW enthusiastic nostalgia buffs about
the globe;  least sounded that way from our here
in Hawaii all day long Saturday on the 20 meter
CW band segment.

73,  Jim, AH6NB


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:17 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: callsign trivia question
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) wri
te
s:
>Can someone tell me when the first KB6xx 2x2 callsigns were issued?
>
>I have had an Advanced Class license since 1968, but didn't bother to get a
>2x2 callsign until I renewed my ticket in 1988, after living in 6-land for
>13 years.
>
>I'm considering getting an earlier callsign that would reflect my length of
>time as an Advanced-Class licensee, under the vanity callsign system, when
>the appropriate gate opens.  I'm also considering a certain K6xx 1x2
>callsign, if I make it to Extra by the time vanity gate #2 opens.
>
>Any help would be appreciated...
>
>73 de Jim - KF6CR
>
>
If you want to get a really old and exclusive call sign try KN6*** series.
They were first issued in the 50's and the series is largely ignored. Lot's of
them are available !!!!

If memory serves me right... 2X2 calls for advanced class came in with the
shifrt to the new incentive structure in the early 70's.

73's Dick K8WHA
>
>


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Garry P. Adkins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB repair...what class?
Date: 15 Jul 1996 15:31:11 -0400
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>>A quick call to the FCC confirms that *no* license is now needed to
>>do repair work on CB equipment. Incredible. Their ongoing deregulation
>>is approaching the absurd.
>
>Jeff, if you prefer more government, more often, and in your face, then
>take a look at aviation radio repair.  Your General Class FCC license, an FAA
>Repairman Certificate, and your name registered with a licensed FAA avionics
>repair station are all that are required to fix a 5 watt AM radio equivalent
>to a well filtered CB but costing about 20 times as much, maybe $1200 or more
.
>And you can't just replace that 1/2 watt carbon resistor with another one.
>It has to be a certified resistor replacement part from the radio
>manufacturer, costing about 100 times as much and taking a long time to
>get to you.
>Neither the FCC nor the FAA will acknowledge the others existance, by the way
.

Lord knows I'm a good repubican and perfer much less government.  (I'm feeling
that way even more today, being July 15, and the end of the quarter when I hav
e
to pay taxes on my company...)

But an airplane radio is a little different in my mind....  If I get in an
airplane, I kinda hope that the radio wasn't repaired with a 1/2 carbon
resistor from somebody's junk box....


I'd gladly pay a $5 resistor replacement charge on my airline ticket..  :)

Garry




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:21 1996
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From: Stan Vandiver <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
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charles copeland wrote:
>
> I was going over the advanced question pool and ran across A1E05
> (page 37 in RS book). The note specifically states its OK to
> order pizza on amateur bands. I could have sworn the exact
> opposite was in the no-code tech question pool (RS book).
> [snip]
>
> Note: Calling a business to make a hotel reservation, calling to order a
> pizza, or calling a tow truck is PERFECTLY LEGAL on the ham bands.
>
> If I understand this, any 2m autopatch call is OK as long as the
> Ham can not make money from it, but its OK to make a call to
> spend money at a business.

Hi Charles,

Yep, that's absolutely correct.  But, the autopatch "sponsor" (whether
club or individual owned) may impose "stricter requirements" on the users
of the system and ask that business-like calls not be made.  However, I
think that the call for a tow-truck is better perceived as emergency type
communications (for the safety of those stranded).

You can call and order a pizza, but you can't allow your repeater to
transmit a "ring" to signify an incoming "reverse autopatch"....
Go figure...

Best regards,
Stan/KD9BE


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:23 1996
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From: Rick Miller <[e-mail]>
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On 18 Jul 1996, Drew Durigan wrote:

> [e-mail] (Joshua Adams) wrote:
> >Greetings,
> >Last night, I had my first experience with a jammer interfering
> >in my QSO with someone.  We just totally ignored him.  My question
> >is, isn't there something I can do to stop this?
>
> Absolutely!  First, track down the offending station.  Then, remove said
> station from the air.  A well-placed pin in the coaxial cable does
> wonders!
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>  KF4DDM

Oh, that's just *great* Drew.  Trespassing and property damage...

Why not just ring the doorbell and *talk* to them about it first?
Just the fact that they can't jam you without being found and traced
should scare some sense into them if they're doing it on purpose.

Besides, for all you know, it may be some ham's *kid* playing with
the rig in which case the ham would *much* rather you LET THEM KNOW
than stick a pin through his coax!

"Rigless" Rick Miller, KB9OBN
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:24 1996
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From: "Chris Meijer" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Question about weatherfax equipment
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Hello all,

I have some questions about weatherfax receptions.
I want to be able to recieve weatherfax images on my sailboat, to do
so I first got myself an installation of the shareware JVFax software.
Secondly I built a simple comparator to digitalise the output of my radio
to the serial port of my computer.
After testing that one with a frequency generator i hooked it up to my
PC and radio and tried to tune into a transmission of a weatherfax to get
it
on screen.

Now, the only thing i see on my screen is a lot of noise. I tried several
frequencies
i got from lists, but i doubt about the quality of my radio.
It is a simple reciever with 9 short wave bands and analog tuning. Maybe
this tuning is
a problem and do i just have to spend more effort in finding the correct
frequency.
My question is, is it possible to recieve those weather fax images with
such a radio?
Or do i really need a more advanced type with single side band option?

I hope some answers will be sent to me, since i am really anxious to get
some results,
even if i have to get another radio...



Chris Meijer


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
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I have recently seen (and received) some messages which suggest
that the proposed legislation, HR-3207, might not be a good
deal for the amateur service.  Just to set the record straight:
   --
1) OO's have no enforcement powers, and HR 3207 would not
   grant them any such powers.
2) They perform volunteer duties which would otherwise have
   to be performed by public employees paid by your taxes.
   (In other words, the public is getting something free.)
3) As volunteers, they risk frivolous and malicious lawsuits
   when performing these duties, and under current law would
   have to defend against such lawsuits out of their own
   pocket. Many very qualified people have decided not to
   volunteer their valuable services because of this risk.
   Others, who have volunteered without knowledge of this risk,
   may unwittingly have their savings and property in jeopardy
   of an unwarranted suit by a jerk with an "attitude".
4) HR 3207 would simply provide these volunteers with the same
   legal defense help they would have if they were paid public
   employees performing these duties.
5) If an OO screws up in a fashion that deserves action by a
   lawsuit, a lawsuit can still be filed.
6) HR 3207 does NOT increase the powers of an OO in any fashion.
   --
73, de Hans, K0HB
   --
- "If you put tomfoolery into a computer, nothing comes out
- but tomfoolery. But this tomfoolery, having passed through a
- very expensive machine, is somehow enobled, and no one dares
- to criticize it."




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How About the Movie "Phenomenon" & WB6QLF
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 05:42:25 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jim Lowman) wrote:

>Jim Martin ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Anybody seen the movie yet?  I thought it was good.  Not excellent but
>: good.  Anyone notice that WB6QLF (in the movie) who the callbook shows
>: as Charles Roblin of Ventura, CA. was calling, "CQ CQ" on voice in the
>: 30 meter band, (10.130 something)?  And that the morse code signal
>: that the main character was supposedly copying (in his head) at high
>: speed was actually a RTTY and a PACTOR signal?

>I suppose a ham would take notice - especially since voice is *not* a
>permitted mode on 30 meters.

No offense Jim, but duhuhhhhhhh!  hehehe.  That's why it was mentioned
in the first place.

>Someone must have had a sense of humor.  QLF is a pseudo-Q-signal for "try
>sending with your left foot."  :-)

Which is true Jim, and that is the first thing I thought of.  But then
I looked it up in the callbook and it is a real issued
callsign...probably of one of the set crew members.  Their technical
assistance could have used a tiny bit of help though.  I bet no one on
the set ever thought of  the "try sending with your left foot" Q
signal.



===========================================
cheers! Jim Martin, wk1v
Lowell, Mass, U.S.A.
http://www.shore.net/~jjmartin/jjm.htm



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:27 1996
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Walt Davidson" writes:

> Extract from Radiocommunications Agency Pamphlet RA 169:
>
> "Anyone planning to listen to radio transmissions should be aware of the
> following:  No Licence is required to use a radio receiver, provided it
> is not capable of transmitting.  However, it must only be used for
> receiving the transmissions meant for general reception, such as
> authorised sound broadcasts, messages sent by radio amateurs and
> Citizens' Band Radio ....."

It is refreshing to see the exact language of the regulation in place
of paraphrases and interpretations.

Some while back there was a discussion on whether reception of GPS
was authorised, and then this discussion degenerated into whether GPS
might be allowed as perhaps a standard frequency transmission.  Now
Walt's quote make clear that this standard frequency reference was
simply a part of a list of examples of transmissions meant for
general reception, and was never a part of any exclusive list.  So
clearly GPS is allowed simply because it is intended for
general reception.  Since it is not a sound broadcast, it does not
even need to be authorised.  Pirate GPS next?

Yup, I'm still harping (i.e. not ashamed to find the rules
interesting) and happy.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:29 1996
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From: KD1YV <[e-mail]>
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Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alfred Lee) writes
:
> >
> >Years ago (> 10+ years?) I read that it is quite possible to get
> >transient spikes up to 80-90 V.  Modern vehicular electrical
> >system might do better.  However, if you know that in some aspects
> >the specifications for vehicular electronics system is more
> >stringent that Mil Spec, you might get worried.  Any one with some
> >facts to fill in?
>
> The vehicle power buss is very dirty. During starting, transients
> of 300 volts are not uncommon. Any time an inductive load switches
> on or off (a fan motor for example), there will be a nasty spike.
> Any electronics used in a vehicle needs suppressors to protect it
> from these spikes and surges. That's normally built into equipment
> designed to operate in the auto environment. But if you build something
> yourself to put in the car, make sure you use adequate suppression
> and filtering.

I totally agree.  The first wiper-delay I built and installed in my '74 Chevy
Nova
worked perfectly.  The second, using the identical circuit, installed in an '8
0 Chevy
Malibu was flaky as hell.  Turned out that the windshield-wiper motor, when it
 shut off,
was spiking the buss with a huge, negative-going pulse (it blanked my scope ev
en on it's
highest voltage setting, 100V I think.)

That was a low-draw circuit, just a 555 and relay, so I build a simple L-C low
-pass
filter to clean it up.  Neither the L nor the C by itself was enough.

Now my question is, with a high draw device such as a transmitter, is there a
simple,
passive filter that will accomplish the goal?  Seems like the series inductor
would have
to use some pretty hefty gauge wire.

73 de Jim, KD1YV


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:31 1996
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From: Gerald Caouette <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Huh? No More 2m and 70cm? Get Real!!
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:50:58 -0700
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Jim Kehler wrote:
>
> Yes, but they boys in Washington play hardball.  And none of them are
> poor when they are finished in Washington.  So you never know what
> might happen.  I'm still confused as to if they are suggesting to
> *take* the bands or *share* them, haven't seen any diffinitive
> postings on that.
>
> 73, Jim KH2D

Share ???????

Lets see how well a moon bounce station can hear a LEO
better yet how well can a LEO hear its target signal
when its front end is overloaded due to its being in the
transmited signal path of a high power EME or Metor scatter
station during a QSO ?

And then there would always be those, who with out 2M and 70CM
to occupy their time, would get some small measure of satisfaction
and pleasure, in hacking the control links and systems for these
Low Orbit Devices so they could watch a bit of fireworks on
re-entry.


Not to worry to much though, any communication industry that
picks on the amateur bands may just find out that. We as as
group significantly affect the purchase decisions of most if
not all of their hoped for customers. and we as a group, have
a long collective memory.

Oh by the way this is not an American only issue as the LEO satilites
are not geo stationary so they will be a bother to all the Hams
of the world.



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (A.R. Duell)
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Subject: Re: 15V too much for mobile radio?
Date: 16 Jul 1996 14:43:58 GMT
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Mike Willis <[e-mail]> writes:
[...]
>> I finally discovered that the switch-on current of the streamer was
>> enough to cause the output pin of the regulator to be below 9V for a
>> significant time after power-up. Thus, the output was more negative than
>> the common pin, which caused the 78S15 to go into shutdown mode. I
>> finally cured it by connecting a capacitor of a few 10's of uF across the
>> zener to give a 'soft start'. It now works fine...

>How about removing the resistor alltogether and using the regulator
>bias current to (a few 10s of mA) to provide the drop across the zener.

_Some_ of the lower-current regulators don't provide enough bias current
to let the zener stabilise. I was caught by that once as well, and now
prefer to include a resistor if possible. The extra cost of the resistor
and soft-start capacitor is minimal, and it ensures that the design is
reliable.

>A couple of 0.1uF capacitors between input and common and output and
>common on the regulator to avoid instability.

Agreed. I did include them (well, 0.22uF actually), but I didn't put them
on the ASCII-art schematic as I though they were 'obvious'.

>I have used an LED for the zener, with a 12V regulator you get 13.9V and
>an "ON" indicator.

I like that. I assume it must be a red LED to drop 1.8V

>Mike

--
-tony
[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:34 1996
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:39:33 -0400
From: "Roberto Franceschetti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Satellite Tracking Program
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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The best is surely out there..! It's LogSat for Windows. Check out the
home page at http://www.logsat.com  You can download a demo or order the
software online.

You can track all the satellites you want in a single windows, and
furthermore you can open as many windows as you want at the same time. It
uses the KCT to interface with the rotor. There's a kazillion of other
features, but the best description can be seen on the home page. There
you'll also find fresh keps, separated by satellite type (amateur,
weather, visible etc.), and moon keps for EME.

Ciao de
Roberto  ik8sqi


Paul S. George <[e-mail]> wrote in article
<[e-mail]>...
> I have a question... Is there a consensus as to what is the best
(feature,
> price, etc.) satellite tracking program available (PC or Mac)?  I've
been
> using WinOrbit (shareware) and it does a reasonable job, but it does
lack
> a few features such as tracking multiple satellites in the same window
and
> the ability to interface with an antenna Az/El controller.
>
> If anyone out there is using one or has an opinion as to which one is
> best, I would certainly be interested in your opinion.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Paul S. George  n8xqv  ([e-mail])
>


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: famous hams world wide.
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:44:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (Nick Grose) wrote:

>You do need a licence to listen to Radio 4.

You have not needed a licence to listen to broadcast radio (sound only)
in the UK for over 20 years.   The Government did away with wireless
licences because it was costing more than the amount of the licence fee
to collect the money.

As well as broadcasts, you may also listen to Amateur Radio, CB and
standard frequency transmissions without a licence.

Extract from Radiocommunications Agency Pamphlet RA 169:

"Anyone planning to listen to radio transmissions should be aware of the
following:  No Licence is required to use a radio receiver, provided it
is not capable of transmitting.  However, it must only be used for
receiving the transmissions meant for general reception, such as
authorised sound broadcasts, messages sent by radio amateurs and
Citizens' Band Radio ....."

Interestingly, for a receiver to be exempt from the requirement for a
licence [Wireless Telegraphy Apparatus (Receivers) (Exemption)
Regulations 1989 - Statutory Instrument 1989 No. 123], it MUST be
"inherently incapable of transmission".   This means it is not legal for
a person to buy an amateur radio transceiver and "use it for receiving
only" until such time as they obtain their amateur transmitting licence!

Not many people know that.   ;-)

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Stites)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:32:35 GMT
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[e-mail] (charles copeland) wrote:

>I was going over the advanced question pool and ran across A1E05
>(page 37 in RS book). The note specifically states its OK to
>order pizza on amateur bands. I could have sworn the exact
>opposite was in the no-code tech question pool (RS book).

>Anybody seen the no-code tech question that disputes this?
>(I gave my no-code tech book away sometime ago)

>Anyway, here is A1E05:

>Q: Whick communication is NOT a prohibited transmission in the
>Amateur Service?

>A: Calling a commercial tow truck service for a breakdown on the highway.

>Note: Calling a business to make a hotel reservation, calling to order a
>pizza, or calling a tow truck is PERFECTLY LEGAL on the ham bands.

>If I understand this, any 2m autopatch call is OK as long as the
>Ham can not make money from it, but its OK to make a call to
>spend money at a business.

I just took the no-code test a short time ago ( two months ) and yes
you can order pizza or anything else as long as the ham's business or
employer does not benefit. I also believe this is a recent change.

73


David Stites, KD7ACU
[e-mail]
Moses Lake, WA USA



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:39 1996
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Subject: ARLP029 Propagation de KT7H
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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP029
ARLP029 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP50
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 29  ARLP029
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  July 19, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP029
ARLP029 Propagation de KT7H

Last week's solar flares never caused a big geomagnetic effect.  The
A index only went up to 10 on July 12.  The biggest upset recently
was early on July 17 when the K index went to 4 and the A index was
11.  This is hardly a disturbance, and is quite common during more
active portions of the solar cycle.

Solar flux has backed off from last week and is now below 70 again,
with the average down about five points from the week previous.

Solar flux is expected to rise to about 70 around July 26, and peak
below 80 around August 2.  No geomagnetic disturbances are forecast
at this time.

The main band for worldwide communication will be 20 meters over the
next month.

Sunspot Numbers for July 11 through 17 were 32, 19, 11, 0, 0, 0 and
0, with a mean of 8.9.  10.7 cm flux was 77, 73.7, 70.2, 67.8, 67,
66.9, and 66.8, with a mean of 69.9.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robin Birch)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: PSU Regulator Valves
Date: 16 Jul 1996 21:35:19 +0100
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Dear All,
I am looking at constructing a shunt regulator that will need to control
1.2kV at about 200 mA maximum and 20 mA minimum.  Can some one suggest a
suitable valve that will work in this environment, sinking say 250 mA at
1.2 kV, being capable of withstanding 2 to 2.5 kV (anode to cathode).

This is to "improve" a very old transmitter PSU that consists of a
selimium full wave bridge and two inductor capacitor stages. This
was the subject of a posting several days ago, thanks for the replies.

The transformer is poking out 1.8kV RMS and the bridge is loosing enough
to go down to about 1.1kV DC out put to the first inductor stage.  When
the key is depressed on the TX the 1kV which is available at the PSU output
goes down to about 900 V.  Pretty poor regulation, also causing chirp
etc.  You should hear it, sounds like a thrush at full belt!!!.

The plan is to replace the selimium with metal, subject of an earlier
post about T1154 PSUs, and then plug a shunt regulator across the O/P.
A resisor will be used to get the volts down to about operating condidtions
before it reaches the regulator.  This means that the regulator will be
operating at 1.2kV.  The transmitter is rated at 200mA full load as
described above, hence the parameters described above.  I am guessing that
the PSU can deliver 250mA as it is "battleship" engineered but I can vary
the ballast resistor to suit.

I appologise right now to those purists who would rather I replace the
selinium with another similar lot.  Unfortunately I can't cos I havn't
got any also I want the system to work, not be a museum piece.

So, ideas please.  I am after suggested valve types and some
characteristic data.  Preferably ones that I stand a chance of still
getting.

Regards

Robin


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Fred McKenzie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: arrested for scanning police freqs?
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:57:20 -0400
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In article <4sgsau$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Maccabeus) wrote:
>      This is for those who have lost their rights and radio to police
> officers because neither party knew we could legally do this.
>      If you rely on your license to scan police frequencies, we suggest
> you carry this letter with you to show law enforcement officers as needed.
>                                    Sincerely,
>                                    Joe Steffel, Captain
>                                    Division Commander
>                                    Communications Division
>
> VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH SHORT WAVE
> LENGTH RADIO RECIEVING SETS (MCL 750.508)
> "Any person who shall equip a vehicle with a radio recieving set that
> will recieve signals sent on frequencies assigned by the Federal
> Communications Commission of the united states of America for police
> purposes,

Phillip-

Your article touches on a point that may be missed.  A local policeman who
was also a "scanner nut", told me that laws worded this way may be
unenforceable.  The law here, as well as that quoted above, specifically
outlaws the act of "equipping a vehicle" with the scanner.  Unless the
policeman actually observes you installing the scanner, he doesn't have
grounds to arrest you or interfere.  In other words, he inferred that it
isn't illegal to HAVE a scanner, only to install one in your vehicle.

Other states may word their laws in such a way to get around this, and the
courts may not take this interpretation.  But, the practical matter is
that police will continue to make such arrests unless challenged in
court.  As was observed in a case that was a topic here several weeks ago,
the police do not always give you the opportunity to show your Ham license
or a copy of a letter explaining your authority.

73, Fred, K4DII


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 20 Jul 1996 02:26:09 GMT
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>>Oh, that's just *great* Drew.  Trespassing and property damage...
>
>>Why not just ring the doorbell and *talk* to them about it first?
>>Just the fact that they can't jam you without being found and traced
>>should scare some sense into them if they're doing it on purpose.
>
>>Besides, for all you know, it may be some ham's *kid* playing with
>>the rig in which case the ham would *much* rather you LET THEM KNOW
>>than stick a pin through his coax!
>
>Hey that is Drew's way of doing things. He doesn't know how to track
>people down and actually talk to them. One day Drew is gonna get a gun
>to his head and wonder what he did wrong by tresspassing on someone's
>property.
>
>73


Here we go again...

Someone posted on this newsgroup regarding a problem he was having with a
repeater jammer.  He then asked if anyone had a solution to his problem.
I responded with a solution which is quick, effective, inexpensive, and...
most importantly...SOLVES THE PROBLEM!

If you would rather play footsie with the guy by "asking him nicely to
please not jam the repeater anymore", or waste time with the FCC (who
could CARE LESS about amateur issues in this day and age), that's your
business.  But I choose to solve the problem.  Many a repeater jammer has
been silenced with the proper, strategic placement of a simple steel
pin!

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM




From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:45 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Mike (KB9KFE) Urso
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DISCLAIMER...this is the mostly fictional account of what
happens when a woman gets involved with a married man.
You can write to the slut at [e-mail]
Mikey says she likes it hard and rough.

---------------------------------------------------

You are such a pathetic creature already and when I'm done
with you there won't be much for Mike to lust.  You are going
to hang from ropes tied to your wrists.  I'll leave you alone
in the dark to think about what got you here as your mind
slips ever closer to total madness.  When I return you promise
to do anything if only I will release you.  You don't get it
yet, you stupid bitch.  I'm going to do what I want to you
and not even your precious Mike can stop me.  Eventually your
arms will pull out of the shoulder sockets and the rest of
your torment begins.  A whip cuts into your back until steady
streams of blood are flowing down your body.  Go ahead and
scream.  No one can hear you and your agony turns me on.  Soon
the whip hits more sensitive parts of your lovely body.  Any
time you pass out you are revived with a jolt from an electric
cattle prod shoved up your cunt.  I'll hold a branding iron
inches from your face so you can read your new label - Mike
Urso's Slut. I wish he could be here to see the terror in your
eyes and to smell the burning flesh as I press the hot metal
against your stomach.  I'll use my knife to cut little x's all
over your face and tits.  When you have properly admired my
artwork I'll gouge out your eyes with the knife.  I'm going to
bite your nipples and tear them away from your body.  You are
hardly even human any more.  Just a piece of meat hanging from
the rafters.  I'll fuck you in the ass one more time and when
I'm done I'll crush my burning cigarette against your clit.
When I cut the rope you fall to a heap on the floor.  Before I
leave I piss on your face and give you one last kick on my way
out.  I wonder what Mike will think of his beautiful vital woman
when he finds the mass of blood and bones.


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 15V too much for mobile radio?
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In article <4se7qs$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (A.R. Duell) wr
ites:
>[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>Note that the regulator will have to drop 10.2 volts to get from
>>24 to 13.8 volts. At 1.5 amps, that's about 16 watts. Heatsink it
>>very well. A TO-3 cased regulator might be a better choice (again
>>use a mounting kit, you can't ground the case). The added diodes
>>need to be rated for the current as well.
>
>If you're using diodes or zeners to 'jack up' a regulator, they only
>carry the (low) current needed by the regulator itself, not the load
>current. They don't need to be highly rated.

Yeah, that's right. For some reason I was thinking the regulator
was a shunt regulator. It isn't, of course. It's a series pass
design. So the main current goes from input to output, and very
little flows through the reference pin, probably only a couple
of mils.

I've thought of another thing too. Most of the TO-220 3 terminal
regulators can only handle 1 amp. This application needs more
current. A solution to that, at the cost of another 0.6 volt,
can be had by having the regulator drive the base of a series
pass transistor like a 2N3055. Then the regulator transistor
handles the heavy current and the 3 terminal regulator only has
to handle the output current divided by the beta of the 2N3055,
or about 50 times less. The downside is you lose the overcurrent
shutdown feature of the 3 terminal regulator when you do this.
In this application, a fast fuse should substitute nicely, but
another transistor could be added to starve base current to
the 2N3055 during overcurrent periods.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:47 1996
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From: John Reed <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How About the Movie "Phenomenon" & WB6QLF
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:15:33 -0400
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Jim Lowman wrote:
>
> Jim Martin ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Anybody seen the movie yet?  I thought it was good.  Not excellent but
> : good.  Anyone notice that WB6QLF (in the movie) who the callbook shows
> : as Charles Roblin of Ventura, CA. was calling, "CQ CQ" on voice in the
> : 30 meter band, (10.130 something)?  And that the morse code signal
> : that the main character was supposedly copying (in his head) at high
> : speed was actually a RTTY and a PACTOR signal?
>
> I suppose a ham would take notice - especially since voice is *not* a
> permitted mode on 30 meters.
>
> Someone must have had a sense of humor.  QLF is a pseudo-Q-signal for "try
> sending with your left foot."  :-)
>
> 73 de Jim - KF6CR

I noticed that, too.  Although I didn't take much notice to the fact
that they were on 30m.  But, now that you mention it, "HEY, THEY CAN'T
DO THAT!!!"

But, sure enough, I went home and looked up WB6QLF.  I wonder if he is
going to talk to the studio for using his call and make some royalties!

John

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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Garver)
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Subject: Re: threading
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Joesph Fenn  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Can anybody explain to me, why when we wish to reply to a msg in which
>several other replies have been entered into the msg and we wish to
>retain the other responses as well as reply,  we always get an error
>refusing to accept the reply and it says "unable to post msg due to
>more added text than new!"....

You can do what you want by deleting the '>' characters from in front
of the included text, or at least you could with all the rn-based newsreaders,
That's assuming that you can even edit the included text with whatever it is
you are using.
I tell you this at the risk of having more fully included text messages
that I probably won't be reading anyway since I have to use kill files
and scan subject lines these days due to the large volume of totally
worthless postings, particularly on rec.radio.amateur.misc
I can't think of any recent threads that would warrant a full inclusion.

Also, I wish that more folks, maybe any folks, would check their headers
to see which groups they are cross-posting to on their followups.

Why not also check what the distribution is set to.  The default seems to
be 'world' which is inappropriate (IMHO) for many of the postings and threads.
Try using 'na' for North America or 'usa' or even your state abbreviation
or city airport identifier if you won't ship that 100 foot tower to me.

And maybe lets edit the followup lines to something like alt.flame for
the more insipid topics.







--
[e-mail]          WA7LDV            I don't speak for Intel


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:49 1996
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From: Avatar <[e-mail]>
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 10:11:29 -0700
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Burch Akin wrote:
>
> I am about to move into a new home.  I am a little concerned about
> some big power lines on two sides of my property.  I read that a DSP
> unit would help, but probably not take care of all the noise.  Any
> suggestions on how to fight power line noise?
>
> K4QXX

My first reaction to your concern was to buy a home in a different
location, but you no doubt don't have that option.

The power line here runs along the front of my property. Noise is mainly
a problem when the beam, about 150' away, is pointed in that direction.
The point here is to select an antenna that is less suseptable to noise
(a horizontal, preferably a dipole, instead of a vertical) and orient it
so its nulls are directed to the power lines.

You may not have a lot of problems with noise. My experience is that
lines that are old have the worst problems, probably due to leakage.
Other line noise problems are typically generated by appliances in your
neighborhood. Some years ago at a different QTH, a raucous(sp?) noise
appeared. It wasn't there all the time, but when it did appear it was on
for hours. I used a AM pocket radio tuned off stations and sniffed the
power meter boxes on my neighbor's homes. A house next door was loud. I
traced the problem to an electric dryer with a bad timer. The timer did
not completely open the contacts at the end of a cycle and was arcing. I
asked my neighbor to make sure the timer was off when it finished the
cycle. That noise was no longer a problem.

It seems that no matter where a Ham lives, there is always something
about the location that is less than ideal!

Regards,
W0MAY




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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:
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> From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Re: 800 number for FCC...
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:04:44 GMT
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> [e-mail] (TL) wrote:
>
> >Fellow hams,
> >
> >
> >I'm looking for the FCC 800 number which allows you to request the 610-v
> >form. I used to have it but no longer :(
> >
> >Has anyone any news about WHEN the vanity call program is going to start?
> >
> >Please reply directly to [e-mail]
> >
> >Laurent F5JTL/WX3W
>
> The Vanity callsign program opened May 31st (Gate 1)  and I think Gate
> 1A opens July 22.  I got my new call on June 18th.
>
> K4QXX
> KE4ZQV old callsign
>
>
Page 74 aug. Qst   800-418-3676
   K3EEl  [e-mail]



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Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
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charles copeland wrote:
>
> I was going over the advanced question pool and ran across A1E05
> (page 37 in RS book). The note specifically states its OK to
> order pizza on amateur bands. I could have sworn the exact
> opposite was in the no-code tech question pool (RS book).
>
> Anybody seen the no-code tech question that disputes this?
> (I gave my no-code tech book away sometime ago)
>
> Anyway, here is A1E05:
>
> Q: Whick communication is NOT a prohibited transmission in the
> Amateur Service?
>
> A: Calling a commercial tow truck service for a breakdown on the highway.
>
> Note: Calling a business to make a hotel reservation, calling to order a
> pizza, or calling a tow truck is PERFECTLY LEGAL on the ham bands.
>
> If I understand this, any 2m autopatch call is OK as long as the
> Ham can not make money from it, but its OK to make a call to
> spend money at a business.

Yes the rules HAVE been changed since the RS book was published...

as long as the control op of the station making the call does not profit
from the call in ANY way (calling your business for ANY reason is one),
you can call businesses and conduct personal business (such as ordering
pizza, making reservations, etc)....
NOW the rptr trustee/control op can make other rules that are more strict
than what the FCC allows...
so the local club may NOT allow such calls...even though the FCC does

73
Chris
WB5ITT



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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Anybody Remember Rudolph Redd (W3UUE)?
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 20:14:57 -0700
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To: "William E. Boebert" <[e-mail]>

William E. Boebert wrote:
>
> I am searching for data on Rudolph J. Redd, a ham in the Baltimore area with
> the call sign W3UUE.  He reportedly worked for Martin Aircraft and was a
> pioneeer in radio control model sailboats.
>
> Earl Boebert ([e-mail])
> Historian
> U.S. Vintage Model Yacht Group


Hello Earl,
Your friend's address from the QRZ callbook is:

  Callsign: W3UUE
      Name: RUDOLPH J REDD
     Addr1: 151 VERSAILLES CIR APT E
     Addr2: TOWSON MD   21204
   Country: USA
     Class: General
 Effective: 19 May 1987
   Expires: 19 May 1997
      Born: 25 Mar 1924
     Email: [unknown]   Update Email Address


You can look up any ham by name or callsign at URL:

http://www.qrz.com/cgi-bin/webname

Have a good reunion.

73
Rod
--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


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From: [e-mail] (Alfred Lee)
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In article <4sck1l$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Garry P. Adkins) wrote:
> >Yes I would vote that 15 volts is a bit high for your radio.
>
> Hi!
>
> I ran some tests this afternoon with my DMM.  I connected the DMM
> to a lighter plug and then drove around and watched the voltage.
>
> Here's what I saw:
>
> Started out at 12.8v before starting the car
>
> Started the car, and it jumped to 14.8 for several seconds then
> settled down to 14.6 for about 2 minutes.
>
> As I drove over the next 10 minutes, it slowly creeped down
> to 14.2 where it stayed.  (at least until I quit watching
> the meter and started watching the road!)
>
> FWIW, the car is a 92 Explorer.
>
> Garry
>
>

Years ago (> 10+ years?) I read that it is quite possible to get
transient spikes up to 80-90 V.  Modern vehicular electrical
system might do better.  However, if you know that in some aspects
the specifications for vehicular electronics system is more
stringent that Mil Spec, you might get worried.  Any one with some
facts to fill in?

73,

---
Alfred Lee                                                       [e-mail]
m
KE6KGV           'The answer is (e^iπ + 1) ? "No" : "Yes"'
Remembering: KE6LTH, KD6HNU, March 22, 1996


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From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
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Rick Miller wrote:
>
> On 12 Jul 1996, karl dundee wrote:
>
> > One minor trouble about the Military & CW - The MARS program dropped all o
f
> > the CW nets, and the mode from ALL of their operations. <A year or so ago.
..>
> >   If they did, the active military probably did quite a while back.
> >   How many Navy RM's still learn CW in school?  Do they still even teacxch
> > it?
>
> I had [US] Navy training as a Cryptologic Tech (Radio branch), for which
> the *main* *emphasis* was Morse code reception.  Essentially, the purpose
> of the CTR rating was to transcribe ("copy") Morse transmissions into the
> electronic systems.  I had to reach 26 GPM with random-letter groups to
> pass the training.
>
> That was back in 1987.  The last I heard (on my last tour as a reservist
> on Okinawa) the "CTR" rating was going away, to be merged with the CTT
> rating (which did mainly HFDF and TTY stuff).  All the CTRs were being
> put through cross-training back in 1992.
>
> I guess not enough "enemies" were using much Morse, and the computer
> equipment for automatic Morse reception was becoming more common.  If I
> remember right, Techies (CTTs) were still required to "stick" Morse to
> about 12 or 14 GPM to pass technical training though.
>
> Boy, it takes me back...  Some of those old Russian trawler operators
> had the cleanest, fastest fists you've ever heard.  You could tell they
> were using a straight key, too!  It's definitely an art.
>

Civil Air Patrol, part of the USAF, still has emission mode A1A listed
as a "permissible" mode on our HF frequencies, but now we must get
specific permission from our Wing Director of Communications to actually
use it. BTW, for emergency HF we use SSB voice and Clover, with a little
RTTY still left.

-Will Flor           [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:56:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Subject: Re: 15V too much for mobile radio?
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KD1YV <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Gary Coffman wrote:
>>
>>
>> The vehicle power buss is very dirty. During starting, transients
>> of 300 volts are not uncommon. Any time an inductive load switches
>> on or off (a fan motor for example), there will be a nasty spike.
>> Any electronics used in a vehicle needs suppressors to protect it
>> from these spikes and surges. That's normally built into equipment
>> designed to operate in the auto environment. But if you build something
>> yourself to put in the car, make sure you use adequate suppression
>> and filtering.
>
>Now my question is, with a high draw device such as a transmitter, is there a
 simple,
>passive filter that will accomplish the goal?  Seems like the series inductor
 would have
>to use some pretty hefty gauge wire.
>73 de Jim, KD1YV
>

Agreed, and agreed. Car electrical systems present extreme conditions.
There are a number of published specifications for the degree of
suppression recommended for mobile appliances. A bit of web browsing
should turn them up. As i recall using a clipping type transient
suppression device requires that the device handle incredible energy
levels. A bit of series impedance (like a choke) is recommended. No
since in trying to clean the whole system up via your device!

I have a question: The car battery clearly presents a low impedance
for starting and other low frequency loads. Anyone know how a typical
lead-acid battery looks at higher frequencies? Does connecting radios
to the battery provide any measurable suppression for things like
start-motor turn-off kicks? It would be interesting to see a plot of a
typical battery impedance vs. frequency.....

-be





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The Singing Postman was a 60s one off. BBC Radio Norfolk (I think)
featured him in the early mornings and he went on to pen such hits as :-

Have you got a light boy?

Mind Your Head boy.

Come along a me.

All sung in a broad Norfolk accent with his own unique guitar playing.
America had Bob Dylan, the French Francois Hardy, the Canadians Neil
Young and Joni Mitchell, Norfolk had the Singing Postman. If anyone has
any of his records they wish to dispose of please let me know. I suspect
the chances of a revival are slim. One of his songs was used in a recent
ad campaign and they needed to pay him the royalties. I read somwhere
that he was tracked down to a Sally Army Hostel for the homeless in
Grimsby, the light was weakly on but no one was in. Although most people
thought he was a "piss take" he did have a following among some of the
older Norfolk Folk. A fond childhood memory to me.

Adge Cutler, from Brisle (Bristol in received pronounciation), headed
the Wurzels. At least two top 100 hits :-

Drink up thee zider

I've got a brand new Combine Harvester (Ooh Ar, OoH Ar)

Eddie Grundy. Obviously no Archers fans here. A top 20ish hit with
"Clarrie".

Apologies for the zilch Amateur Radio content of this post but I thought
Walt and our American cousins might like to know.

Whilst I am in favour of CW, C&W leaves me cold. I don't suppose any
Chicago Blues practitioners or members of the great psychadelic bands
from San Francisco were hams? Turn on, tune in, drop out. That Gerry
Garcia, there was a real guitarist.

--
Stephen John Farthing MBCS G0XAR
Melksham, Wiltshire UK
RSGB G-QRP 7766


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:57:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Gunton)
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Subject: Re: How About the Movie "Phenomenon" & WB6QLF
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:40:31 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jim Martin) wrote:

>>[e-mail] (Jim Lowman) wrote:
>>
>>>Jim Martin ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>>: Anybody seen the movie yet?  I thought it was good.  Not excellent but
>>>: good.  Anyone notice that WB6QLF (in the movie) who the callbook shows
>>>: as Charles Roblin of Ventura, CA. was calling, "CQ CQ" on voice in the
>>>: 30 meter band, (10.130 something)?  And that the morse code signal
>>>: that the main character was supposedly copying (in his head) at high
>>>: speed was actually a RTTY and a PACTOR signal?
>>
>>>I suppose a ham would take notice - especially since voice is *not* a
>>>permitted mode on 30 meters.
>>
>>No offense Jim, but duhuhhhhhhh!  hehehe.  That's why it was mentioned
>>in the first place.
>>
>>>Someone must have had a sense of humor.  QLF is a pseudo-Q-signal for "try
>>>sending with your left foot."  :-)
>>
>>Which is true Jim, and that is the first thing I thought of.  But then
>>I looked it up in the callbook and it is a real issued
>>callsign...probably of one of the set crew members.  Their technical
>>assistance could have used a tiny bit of help though.  I bet no one on
>>the set ever thought of  the "try sending with your left foot" Q
>>signal.
>>
>>
>>
>>===========================================
>>cheers! Jim Martin, wk1v
>>Lowell, Mass, U.S.A.
>>http://www.shore.net/~jjmartin/jjm.htm
>>

Too bad they got my call wrong.

Ken Gunton
WB6QWF

Ken Gunton WB6QWF TL Distributing - Microwave and RF Components
CAGE Code 01DH7 http://www.erinet.com/kenny/microwave.html


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>>What class commercial ticket is necessary to do CB radio repair? (no
>>flames re: CB pls)

>Being that no license is required for CB any longer, I doubt that a
>commercial license is required to service the radios.  Could be wrong.

>Dick Hughes - W6CCD


You are right, Dick, and I will elaborate a bit. Looking at the CB rules,
Part 95, sub 95.424 it states:

How do I have my CB station serviced?

(a) You may adjust an antenna to your CB transmitter and make radio checks.
(b) You are responsible for the proper operation of the station at all times
and are expected to provide for observations, servicing and maintenance
as often as may be necessary to ensure proper operation. You must have
all internal repairs and adjustments to your CB transmitter made in
accordance with the Technical Regulations (see subpart E). The internal
repairs or internal adjustments should be performed by or under the
immediate supervision and responsibility of a person certified as technically
qualified to perform transmitter maintenance and repair duties in the
private land mobile services and fixed services by an organization or
committee representative of users in those services.


I don't exactly know what this means, but I typed this word for word
from the rules. I spoke with an FCC representative a while ago who said
that he can't even explain exactly what it means, but that an amateur
radio licensee who has experience with operation and maintenance
of transmitters in repeater systems could fall into this category.

I sounds like there is a large "gray area" of persons who are technically
qualified, but one thing that is clear is they don't want every Bozo who
has used a screwdriver touching CB radios.

There you go guys! Who wants to make extra money fixing your neighbors
CB radios? Peak and Clip maybe? ---Hi-Hi!!!

73 de WA3RVT, Steve





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<[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>>What class commercial ticket is necessary to do CB radio repair? (no
>>>flames re: CB pls)
>
>>Being that no license is required for CB any longer, I doubt that a
>>commercial license is required to service the radios.  Could be wrong.
>
>>Dick Hughes - W6CCD
>
>
>You are right, Dick, and I will elaborate a bit. Looking at the CB rules,
>Part 95, sub 95.424 it states:
>
>How do I have my CB station serviced?
>
>(a) You may adjust an antenna to your CB transmitter and make radio checks.
>(b) You are responsible for the proper operation of the station at all times
>and are expected to provide for observations, servicing and maintenance
>as often as may be necessary to ensure proper operation. You must have
>all internal repairs and adjustments to your CB transmitter made in
>accordance with the Technical Regulations (see subpart E). The internal
>repairs or internal adjustments should be performed by or under the
                                 ^^^^^^
>immediate supervision and responsibility of a person certified as technically
>qualified to perform transmitter maintenance and repair duties in the
>private land mobile services and fixed services by an organization or
>committee representative of users in those services.
>
>
>I don't exactly know what this means, but I typed this word for word
>from the rules. I spoke with an FCC representative a while ago who said
>that he can't even explain exactly what it means, but that an amateur
>radio licensee who has experience with operation and maintenance
>of transmitters in repeater systems could fall into this category.

No license required for internal adjustments or repairs.  However the
user is still responsible for compliance with all applicable tech
standards.

Clear as mud eh?

Curtis
KD6ELA/GROL



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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 15V too much for mobile radio?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alfred Lee) writes:
>
>Years ago (> 10+ years?) I read that it is quite possible to get
>transient spikes up to 80-90 V.  Modern vehicular electrical
>system might do better.  However, if you know that in some aspects
>the specifications for vehicular electronics system is more
>stringent that Mil Spec, you might get worried.  Any one with some
>facts to fill in?

The vehicle power buss is very dirty. During starting, transients
of 300 volts are not uncommon. Any time an inductive load switches
on or off (a fan motor for example), there will be a nasty spike.
Any electronics used in a vehicle needs suppressors to protect it
from these spikes and surges. That's normally built into equipment
designed to operate in the auto environment. But if you build something
yourself to put in the car, make sure you use adequate suppression
and filtering.

It is also normal for the vehicle electrical buss to vary from as
low as 10.5 volts to as high as 14.8 volts during normal operation.
So use of regulation is highly recomended for equipment which won't
tolerate fairly wide voltage swings. Once the alternator has recharged
the battery from the starting drain, the voltage will normally stay
in the range of 13.8-14.2 volts on the vehicle buss. But during peak
charging, voltage will rise to 14.8 volts, and if you run equipment
with the engine off, the battery can go down to 10.5 volts as it
nears the point where it is so discharged that it won't start the
car. (You should never let a car battery discharge below 10.5 volts
or you'll shorten its life.)

A number of ham rigs get *real* squirrelly when the voltage drops
below 11 volts. You can get that at the rear terminals of the radio
even with the battery at full charge if you have significant resistance
in the wiring to the radio. 1.3 ohms will drop 1 volt for each ampere
of draw. With a radio requiring 10 amps, you could wind up with nearly
zero volts at the back of the equipment if the resistance of the total
wiring between the battery and the radio were only an ohm. You want
wiring that has a total resistance in the 1/100ths of an ohm range.
Use heavy cables and good connectors.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:57:05 1996
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From: steve <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:08:19 -0700
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Chris Boone wrote:
>
> C. Wheeler wrote:
> >
> > Chris Boone <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > >charles copeland wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > >> If I understand this, any 2m autopatch call is OK as long as the
> > >> Ham can not make money from it, but its OK to make a call to
> > >> spend money at a business.
> > >
> > >Yes the rules HAVE been changed since the RS book was published...
> > >
> > >as long as the control op of the station making the call does not profit
> > >from the call in ANY way (calling your business for ANY reason is one),
> >                                                      ^^^
> > Where does it say this?  I have called in to my place of employment.
>
> ANd what did you do when you called in? If you discussed ANY part of your
> business activities on the air, you violated Part 97.
>
> > Be
> > careful when you say "ANY reason" - 97.113 does not make such a broad
> > prohibition.  You cannot make any communications on behalf of your
> > employer - but that does not mean you CAN'T call a business JUST BECAUSE
> > you work there.
>
> Most people would be calling THEIR place of business to conduct business
> there....you cannot call into your business and check on messages, etc
> with anyone there...you COULD possibly call a friend at work and get
> together for lunch.....(as friends) but I doubt less than 1% of those
> doing that WONT be discussing the business right?
>
> So if you wish to push the point, true...you CAN call your place of
> business...you just cannot DISCUSS ANYTHING about the business since YOU
> and your employer/etc could benefit from it....
>
> As a rptr trustee, I would not allow anyone to call their place of
> business......
>
> 73
> Chris
> WB5ITT

how about to say they will be late?


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:57:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW and ID4 (SPOILER)
Date: 15 Jul 1996 14:26:01 -0700
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[e-mail] (Carlyle Gerde) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Greg Thompson) writes:

>>[e-mail] (Bill Sohl) wrote:

>>>[e-mail] (karl dundee) wrote:

>>>>One minor trouble about the Military & CW - The MARS program dropped all o
f
>>>>the CW nets, and the mode from ALL of their operations. <A year or so ago.
..>
>>>>  If they did, the active military probably did quite a while back.

>>>They did.

>>Nope. They didn't.

>>>>  How many Navy RM's still learn CW in school?

>>>None.  Additionally, the RM classification has been changed
>>>in the Coast Guard to something like Telecommunications Something.

>>A lot of them still do.

>>>>  Do they still even teacxch it?

>>>No.

>>Yes. They still teach it at Ft. Huachuca, Az. The Air Force, Army, and
>>Navy get taught morse code here.

>>73


>  What they teach at the Intelligence Center and School at Ft. Hauchuca
>is Morse Intercept.  This used to track Third World military organizations
>who still use CW as a primary means of commo.  The MOS is interesting.
>How would you like to get paid to copy high speed Morse all day?

Tell you what, from what I hear about it from a friend of mine that is
in the school now, they couldn't pay me enough to listen to that all
day long. Besides I hate morse but it is a necessary evil that I must
learn to upgrade to general. Got the 5 but 13 is way off in the
horizon.

73





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From: "Gary J. Ferdinand" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Learning CW-any pointers?
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 08:57:39 -0400
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MMedi13720 wrote:
>
> Hi,
> (Yeah, I'm delurking)
>
> I'm working on learning Morse code for my license, and I'm struggling to
> get anywhere near 5 WPM. As it is, I'm taking the no-code tech exams
> Sunday, but the exams are offered at the end of every month, and I was
> hoping to have the code down for the August exam. Does anybody have any
> tips? (What I'm doing is basically just going over the letters, reading
> them and tapping the tapble to figure out what they should sound like. It
> makes perfect sense while I'm doing it, but I can't make hide nor hair of
> the practice tapes I'm using, which are at just over 5 WPM. Any other
> ideas?)
>
> post, email, smoke signals, whatever's easiest for you, I'll get it so
> long as the response isn't in Morse;-)
>
> TIA,
> Mike S. Medintz


Mike,

You gotta HEAR the code to advance any further than a mere memorization
of the letters.  Code tapes.  Listening on the air (novice band).
Actually, a CONTEST is great, inasmuch as lots of people are calling CQ
(you learn those letters super-quick) and the exchange of information is
repetitive and quick (if you sorta know what's coming and it's repeated
often enough, you can decode it).  Look in the mags, find a weekend
CW contest, and park your ears in the middle of it. You'll hear lots of
CQs, tons of call letters, and, depending on the contest, some amount
of numbers.  Sure, the speeds are horrendous, but if you can discern
the word-spaces, with a knowledge of the "type" of stuff they're sending
you can copy it after a dozen or so repetitions (call letters always
follow the CQ, etc).

At age 13 it took me about 6 months to get to 5wpm, practicing DAILY
with a code practice oscillator (no tape recorder, sending to myself).
It took about 2 months for me to get to 13 wpm from 5, using the above
approach, thanks to the now-defunct Novice Roundup contest.  And, back
then we HAD to get to 13 in a year, or we lost the license entirely!!!

Again, the key (no pun) is LISTENING to code actually being sent.

Good luck, Mike!


Gary  W2CS


From [e-mail] Sun Jul 21 18:57:10 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: SKYWARN Training Boston MA, SAT 27 July 1996
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Summary: Noon to 4 local NU 145.23 talk-in
Keywords: SKYWARN BOSTON TRAINING
Organization: Boston ARC +  NU ARC + Waltham ARA + SKYWARN
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Since I don't see that this has been posted here (or it's already
expired), I'm forwarding our Training Coordinator's announcement.
My apologies to those of you outside the driving radius for Boston,
and those of you nearby who are already trained or have seen this
(who could please forward to someone else!).   You don't have to
be an Amateur Radio operator to participate; this training is open
to all and is free. (We will be soliciting truly voluntary donations
of money and used license study guides to the host NUARC club.)

   Thx & 73 de N1VUX (BARC Liaison for Skywarn Training, Boston)

> From [e-mail]  Wed Jul  3 16:44:16 1996
> Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 12:44:16 -0400

Hello to all,

The Boston Amateur Radio Club and the Waltham Amateur Radio Association in
cooperation with the Northeastern University Amateur Radio Club is
sponsoring a SKYWARN Training Session. Here are the details:

When:   Saturday July 27, 1996 Noon-4 PM.

Where:  Snell Engineering Room 108 on the campus of Northeastern University,
        by Ruggles Station on the Orange Line MBTA and off Huntington Ave. Lin
e.
        Plenty of Parking.

Talk-in: On the 145.23 Boston Repeater.

The training session offers weather spotters whether they are hams or not an
opportunity to be trained on severe thunderstorms and tornadoes. It will
teach spotters how to depict potential severe weather through various cloud
formations as well as to show spotters what to report and what not to report
to NWS and what reports are deemed severe by National Weather Service criteria
.

Interested people can contact the following people:

KD1CY-Rob Macedo
SKYWARN Training Coordinator
Greater New Bedford ARES Emergency Coordinator
Work Phone: [phone] Any time after 3 PM.
Home Phone: [phone] Any time before 2 PM.
Internet EMAIL: [e-mail]
Packet EMAIL: KD1CY @ AA1FS

N1VUX-Bill Ricker
Email Address: [e-mail] or [e-mail]

Pre-registration is NOT required, however, if you know ahead of time that
you would like to attend please let Bill or I know.

I hope this to be a VERY SUCCESSFUL Training Session.

73,Rob-KD1CY.
SKYWARN Training Coordinator
Greater New Bedford ARES Emergency Coordinator


===== For those using HTML-enhanced readers ====
<A HREF="mailto:[e-mail]"> Mail query/rsvp to KD1CY </A><BR>
<A HREF="mailto:[e-mail]"> Mail query/rsvp to N1VUX </A><BR>

<A HREF="http://www.connix.com/~sbicycle/skywarn/class.html#classes">
above Boston training announcement on CT Skywarn page</A>

<A HREF="http://www.winternet.com/~daveej/swtauntn.html">
Boston skywarn URL (mostly current) (c/o twin-cities)</A>

<A HREF="http://www.winternet.com/~daveej/training.html">
general Skywarn training description (c/o twin-cities)</A>

73 de Bill N1VUX


--
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Justme)
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Subject: 10 to 6 meter repeaters?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:40:54 GMT
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Does any one know of 10 to 6 meter repeater frequencies?

Thanks.

Bob W4GBB



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From: KD1YV <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:26:40 -0300
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ZaaX wrote:
>
> I am considering buying a Saturn and would like to know if anyone out
> there has
> had any EMC/RFI problems with one. I will be running 25-50 watts. If you
> have
> had any problems how did you solve them. Any info on this will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> 73 Zack Schinlder
> N8FNR

A friend in one of the clubs that I belong to just purchased a Saturn, and had
 a very
positive experience with them.  They checked out the RFI implications, and rep
orted that
there would be no problem.

Further, _they installed the wiring harness from the battery to the rig, and t
he coax
from the rear window to the rig AT NO EXTRA CHARGE TO HIM!_  Even better, this
 was the
second time that they perfomed this service (his second Saturn.)

Next time I am looking at a new car, this seems like a great public relations
policy
that will make me give it serious consideration.

73 de Jim, KD1YV


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
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[e-mail] (ZaaX) wrote:

>I am considering buying a Saturn and would like to know if anyone out
>there has
>had any EMC/RFI problems with one. I will be running 25-50 watts. If you
>have
>had any problems how did you solve them. Any info on this will be greatly
>appreciated.

>73 Zack Schinlder
>N8FNR

We had one. Got rid of it. Every time I keyed the radio, the motor cut
off. Was a pain in the ass to pull off the road every time I wanted to
use the autopatch. American cars are junque. Try a Toyota.

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:19 1996
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From: Bruce Burke <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
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Jim Kehler wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (ZaaX) wrote:
>
> >I am considering buying a Saturn and would like to know if anyone out
> >there has
> >had any EMC/RFI problems with one. I will be running 25-50 watts. If you
> >have
> >had any problems how did you solve them. Any info on this will be greatly
> >appreciated.
>
> >73 Zack Schinlder
> >N8FNR
>
> We had one. Got rid of it. Every time I keyed the radio, the motor cut
> off. Was a pain in the ass to pull off the road every time I wanted to
> use the autopatch. American cars are junque. Try a Toyota.
>
> 73, Jim KH2D


Jim,

I've had just the opposite experience. I just
completed a 2 week vacation where I logged over 3000 miles without
a glitch, and that was with a 100 watt radio.

73,

Bruce, WB4YUC


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff DeMarco)
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Subject: Re: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
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[e-mail] (ZaaX) wrote:
>
>>I am considering buying a Saturn and would like to know if anyone out
>>there has
>>had any EMC/RFI problems with one. I will be running 25-50 watts. If you
>>have
>>had any problems how did you solve them. Any info on this will be greatly
>>appreciated.
>
>>73 Zack Schinlder
>>N8FNR
>
I used a Yaesu dual bander with removable control head in a Saturn - worked
like a dream.  Very easy mount in the trunk for the main transceiver unit,
with short coax to trunk lip antenna mount.  Seats fold down for easy access.
I also wired it directly to the battery, running the wires under the door
molding.  With the radio in the trunk, there were no RF problems whatsoever.


*************************************************
Jeff DeMarco                               WB6KUW
Riverside, CA
[e-mail]                 http://www.pe.net/~jmd
"I am not a number, I am an alphanumeric string!"


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From: [e-mail] (ka0yos)
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Subject: Re: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
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In article <4t2d2j$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>[e-mail] (ZaaX) wrote:
>
>>I am considering buying a Saturn and would like to know if anyone out
>>there has
>>had any EMC/RFI problems with one. I will be running 25-50 watts. If
you
>>have
>>had any problems how did you solve them. Any info on this will be
greatly
>>appreciated.
>
>>73 Zack Schinlder
>>N8FNR
>
>We had one. Got rid of it. Every time I keyed the radio, the motor cut
>off. Was a pain in the ass to pull off the road every time I wanted to
>use the autopatch. American cars are junque. Try a Toyota.
>
>73, Jim KH2D
>
>
Don't know about the Saturn.  A friend and I did $1200 damage to a
Toyota by keying a handheld in the car during a test drive.  The
salesman had given us permission thank goodness.  The car just quit!

Run 50 watts VHF and UHF in a Thunderbird without trouble.

73,
Joe



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:22 1996
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From: Steve Wolf <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:47:00 -0400
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> >>...The 440 side unlocks the Saturn's doors...

> Wow...I hope there aren't a lot of car-stealing Amateur Radio Operators
> out there, Steve. What a tip....

Interesting point!  My Saturn will _not_ unlock the doors when I'm on
440 if the ignition is _off_.  It is only when the ignition is ON and the
car is running.  Hmmmmm ...

--
73,
Steve
        Internet:  [e-mail]
        Amateur Radio:  no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:31:00 GMT
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Bruce Burke <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Jim Kehler wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] (ZaaX) wrote:
>>
>> >I am considering buying a Saturn and would like to know if anyone out
>> >there has
>> >had any EMC/RFI problems with one. I will be running 25-50 watts. If you
>> >have
>> >had any problems how did you solve them. Any info on this will be greatly
>> >appreciated.
>>
>> >73 Zack Schinlder
>> >N8FNR
>>
>> We had one. Got rid of it. Every time I keyed the radio, the motor cut
>> off. Was a pain in the ass to pull off the road every time I wanted to
>> use the autopatch. American cars are junque. Try a Toyota.
>>
>> 73, Jim KH2D


>Jim,

>I've had just the opposite experience. I just
>completed a 2 week vacation where I logged over 3000 miles without
>a glitch, and that was with a 100 watt radio.

>73,

>Bruce, WB4YUC

I don't know Bruce, seems like all these new cars have RFI problems.
I don't have any problems with my Toyota, but somebody else said they
were test driving a Toyota and keyed an HT and it quit running.
Somebody else says their 440 radio makes the doors lock and unlock on
a Saturn.  What's a  ham to do ? I guess we'll all have to start
driving 1968 VW buses again.....

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 2m FM ok in a Saturn?
Date: 25 Jul 1996 18:18:09 -0400
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In article <4t8far$[e-mail]>,
C. Wheeler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>4.  NO MAG MOUNTS.  The sheet metal on every personal or company car I
>drive gets "violated" with my 3/4 hole saw and gets an NMO mount on the
>roof.  You want the ground side of your coax on the car's chassis at the
>antenna and mag mounts don't do that.  Don't worry about the value of
>your car crashing because you've drilled a hole in it (unless you drive
>some exotic machine like a Farrari, a Viper, etc.).  One proper antenna
>mount will not hurt the value of your car.  My cars are leased - and they
>still get drilled.  Antenna farms will make your car look like the victim
>of a drive by shooting when it's time to sell - but one hole is no
>problem.  Just put an NMO cap on it.

Curtis,

Another note: Just tell the person you're selling the car to that the
NMO cap is a place for a cell antenna.

Tony


--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
== [e-mail]


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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB044
ARLB044 FCC call sign update

ZCZC AG24
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 44  ARLB044
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  July 22, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB044
ARLB044 FCC call sign update

The following is a list of the FCC's most recently issued call signs
as of July 1, 1996:

District          Group A     Group B      Group C      Group D
                  Extra       Advanced     Tech/Gen     Novice

0                 AB0CI       KI0DP        ++           KB0WWW
1                 AA1QH       KE1FL        N1XPG        KB1BYU
2                 AB2BO       KG2HR        ++           KB2ZKI
3                 AA3OP       KE3WW        N3XTT        KB3BPL
4                 AE4VY       KT4SW        ++           KF4KQM
5                 AC5IX       KM5BR        ++           KC5VEB
6                 AC6WA       KQ6HP        ++           KF6EWW
7                 AB7RL       KJ7YY        ++           KC7RTO
8                 AA8XM       KG8XY        ++           KC8EIA
9                 AA9SS       KG9HD        ++           KB9NZU
N. Mariana        NH0A        AH0AW        KH0FA        WH0ABF
Guam              WH2V        AH2DB        KH2QH        WH2ANP
Johnston          ++          ++           ++           ++
Midway            ++          ++           ++           ++
Hawaii            ++          AH6OQ        ++           WH6DCB
Kure              ++          ++           ++           ++
Amer. Samoa       AH8O        AH8AH        KH8DA        WH8ABF
Wake              ++          ++           ++           ++
Alaska            ++          AL7QM        KL0AA        WL7EKK
Virgin            WP2X        KP2CJ        NP2JI        WP2AIE
Puerto Rico       KP3B        KP3AB        NP3CF        WP4NMF

++ All call signs in this group have been issued in this area.
Newly issued call signs for these groups/areas are assigned from the
next lower group.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:29 1996
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From: "Bart Jahnke, KB9NM ARRL/VEC" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARRL/VEC To Extend Service Hours for New License Information on Weeknights Until 9 PM -- New Evening Service Hours to Begin August 5, 1996
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ARRL News Release
Newington CT

July 24, 1996


                                        For more information contact:

                                        Bart J. Jahnke, KB9NM
                                        ARRL/VEC Manager
                                        Tel: [phone]
                                        (internet: [e-mail])

Re: ARRL/VEC To Extend Service Hours for New License Information on
Weeknights Until 9 PM -- New Evening Service Hours to Begin August 5,
1996

Beginning Monday, August 5th, the ARRL/VEC will begin providing a new
weekday-evening license information service.  The addition of an evening
shift will allow even more new licensees and upgrading amateurs to
receive their new license information and call signs by calling the
ARRL/VEC.

These new evening hours bring the total daily hours such information will
be available from the ARRL/VEC to 13 hours per day--weekdays (covering 8
am to 9 pm eastern time).

"With the Fall examination season just around the corner, this new
weeknights' service will allow us to provide a more complete service to
all our Amateur Radio licensing customers--especially those on the west
coast and in the Pacific and Alaskan areas," says ARRL/VEC Manager Bart
Jahnke, KB9NM.

For new license information, contact the ARRL/VEC by calling 860-594-0300
(weekdays and evenings, from 8 am to 9 pm eastern time).  To allow
adequate time for VE team, VEC and FCC processing of your new license
application, please wait 7 to 10 days from your test date before calling.

                                -30-


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From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Beam headings map?
Date: 22 Jul 1996 13:36:35 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
>Does anyone know of software that can generate a map based on your
>home QTH that depicts beam headings to various DXCC locations? The
>only maps I have seen in various publications are based on the central
>USA.

My old ARRL Operating Manual has a number of heading/great circle
maps centered on various locations. I scanned in the Western USA
one and cut and paste radiation patterns from EZNEC to overlay
over it.

73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James W. Barr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Best way to learn high-speed code?
Date: 24 Jul 1996 11:09:49 -0500
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I have enjoyed being a Technician for several years, and am interested in
upgrading.  My problem is that I would like to "go all the way" as far as
learning the code -- like learning the code at 20 to 25 wpm.  I have
heard that if you learn code at 5wpm, that getting past 13wpm is a real
barrier.  For higher speeds, you basically have to learn it over.  Is this
true?

I have also heard that a good way to learn high-speed code is to listen to
high-speed tapes and pick out the letters you can pick out and do this
over and over until you learn the code.

Basically, I want to learn the code, and I want to upgrade as high as I
can go, but I really don't want to waste my time learning and re-learning
at different speeds.  If I actually learn the code at higher speeds, how
will it affect my comprehension at lower speeds?

The Code has always been a sore spot with me, but I am really motivated,
and want to learn it now.  Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks!



--
-Jim
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:34 1996
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From: GSparrow <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Best way to learn high-speed code?
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 22:24:50 -0400
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James W. Barr wrote:
>
> I have enjoyed being a Technician for several years, and am interested in
> upgrading.  My problem is that I would like to "go all the way" as far as
> learning the code -- like learning the code at 20 to 25 wpm.  I have
> heard that if you learn code at 5wpm, that getting past 13wpm is a real
> barrier.  For higher speeds, you basically have to learn it over.  Is this
> true?
>
> I have also heard that a good way to learn high-speed code is to listen to
> high-speed tapes and pick out the letters you can pick out and do this
> over and over until you learn the code.
>
> Basically, I want to learn the code, and I want to upgrade as high as I
> can go, but I really don't want to waste my time learning and re-learning
> at different speeds.  If I actually learn the code at higher speeds, how
> will it affect my comprehension at lower speeds?
>
> The Code has always been a sore spot with me, but I am really motivated,
> and want to learn it now.  Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> -Jim
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> James W. Barr, N9ONL              |    e-mail: [e-mail]
> Buffalo Grove, IL, USA            |  Web site: http://www.mcs.net/~jbarr
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> US Robotics' Pilot Organizer info: http://www.usr.com
>       GEOS Operating system info : http://www.geoworks.com
>                     GEOS IZL info: send e-mail to [e-mail]
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
You don't say if you are a lic amateur. I use cw on the moonbounce
station. Everytime i go in a contest my speed comes up quickly. Ask Arrl
at website for American radio relay league.
73  VE3BQN


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Biological effects of nearby RF: Any Recent Studies?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:57:00 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> Paul Moller <[e-mail]> w
rites:
>Richard,
>
>There are several articles that speak to hams and biological effects.
>
>One is: INCREASED MORTALITY IN AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS DUE TO
>LYMPHATIC AND HEMATOPOIETIC MALIGNANCIES.
>Eng.
>Milham, S., Jr.
>Epidemiology Section, LP-15, Washington State Dept. of Social Health Services
, Olympia, WA 98504
>Am J Epidemiol 127(1):50-54
>1988
>
>another is: SILENT KEYS:  LEUKAEMIA MORTALITY IN AMATEUR RADIO
>OPERATORS (LETTER).
>Eng.
>Milham, S., Jr.
>Epidemiology Sect., Div. of Health, Dept. of Social and Health Services, WA 9
8504
>Lancet 2(8432):812
>1985

Milham's work has been challenged as statistically flawed. It's worth
reading, but do keep in mind that it isn't fully accepted as addressing
*RF* dangers. There was no control done for the chemical exposures amateurs
routinely face, nor was there any correlation with amateur occupations or
other environmental factors which may have contributed to the slightly
increased incidences of these cancers in the surveyed population (for
example, amateurs who live sedentary lifestyles may make up a larger
subset of the amateur population than of the general population). There
wasn't even any measurement or estimation of exposures to RF fields
done for the silent keys in these studies. Milham just checked cause of
death on medical records for recently deceased amateurs.

Milham's work *suggests* that there may be a link between amateur radio
and these cancers, but it doesn't prove that the link is *RF exposure*.
Note, I'm not saying there *isn't* a link, but these studies don't prove
a link. There is some better work available which tries to address these
confounding factors, but the question remains very much open.

This is a separate issue from direct RF heating exposures. That's on
very sound scientific ground. No one can seriously question the effect
of RF heating on tissue (especially if you've ever used a microwave
oven).

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:37 1996
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From: Jim <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bying equipment in the US
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:37:13 +0000
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TFranky B. wrote:
>
> Hello and thanks for reading my message.
>
> I want to buy a new rig, and because they're a much cheaper
> in the US then here in europe I want to buy one in the states.
> Now there is still one problem..., I don't know if  have
> to pay taxes when I bring the equipment in Belgium.
>
> Are there people on the net with the "right" experience on
> how to import electronic equipment on a way I don't have to pay
> any taxexs.....
>
> Please let me know
> Thanks in advance and 73's de Franky ON1BP   QTH AALTER, BELGUIM (JO11RB)
This seems to be a question you need to ask someone in Belguim.  I know
when I travel outside of US and take equipment I have to declare that I
plan on taking it back home with me and I have to have proof that I
originally purchased it in the US when I reenter the US or I my have to
pay duty on it in the US.

 73, DE Jim, KC4FWS


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:38 1996
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From: steve <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Calling Freqs on 2mtr and 440 MHZ SSB
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:49:37 -0700
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To: "Robert J. Schmidt" <"[e-mail]"@polaristel.net>

Robert J. Schmidt wrote:
>
> Just got a new multimode rig and wondered what are the calling
> frequencies or parts of the band on 2m and 440?
>
> TNX, Bob, WA9JDR

bob,144.200 usb/432.100usb
7 3   steve CM88LL


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:38 1996
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Subject: Re: Calling Freqs on 2mtr and 440 MHZ SSB
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steve wrote:
>
> Robert J. Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > Just got a new multimode rig and wondered what are the calling
> > frequencies or parts of the band on 2m and 440?
> >
> > TNX, Bob, WA9JDR
>
> bob,144.200 usb/432.100usb
> 7 3   steve CM88LL

p.s.check your email address,my msg got returned.s


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:39 1996
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From: [e-mail](Douglas Dudley)
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Subject: CAP mod for IC 2350H
Date: 22 Jul 1996 20:56:12 GMT
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I am looking for the mod for the IC 2350H to TX/RX on Civil Air Patrol
frequencies.  The vendor I purchased the radio from provided a poor
quality, miniaturized photocopy of a schematic which is illegible.  Can
anyone assist?

Thanks,

Doug
KB0UVR


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Tatro)
Subject: Re: Denver Hamfest?
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In article <4t60o5$[e-mail]>,
>From: [e-mail] (Jack Harper)
>
>Anyone know the date of the Jefferson County
hamfest this year? It is usually,
>I think, sometime in August.
>
>Any replies appreciated.
>
>Regards to all
>
>Jack, KC0LR (Friend to all things Hammarlund)
>
Sunday August 18th -  8:00AM to 2:00PM

73's Pat N0WCG


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:41 1996
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From: [e-mail](Sean)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Desk mic to use w/ IC-735??
Date: 20 Jul 1996 21:34:37 GMT
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I'm looking to replace the stock handmic on my ICOM 735... I tried
an MC-60A, and for some reason the audio was extremely low.  Now, I'm
looking for something else.  The matching ICOM mics are nice, but
a little too expensive... I'm wondering if an Astatic D104 is a good
match... or maybe someone has a better suggestion... Please reply
via email... Thanks.

Sean, N2ZJJ


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:42 1996
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Subject: Re: Desk mic to use w/ IC-735??
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> happier in the end. The D104 dates back to the early 50's and I think the
> mics today are a lot better.
>
> Regards,
> W0MAY

That is true.
but there is something to be said for the quality of the sound on a
d104. I can tell you that many times when people were using stock
microphones <on 10 meter and -=gasp=- cb> that they had little or no
modulation, were hard to understand, and sounded "tinny"
they switched to d104, and came alive. They could turn the power down
because they could be heard, and their tone was bassier.
There are many older units on the market <not just microphones> that
are sometimes just as good or better than the technological new parts.

my 2 cents...
73's and have a GREAT day!


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump causing noise?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> Earl Needham <needha
[e-mail]> writes:
>
>       Has anyone experienced their electric fuel pump (mobile, of course)
>causing noise on SSB?  I'm trying to operate 6 meters SSB and I have severe
>electrical noise with the engine running.  If I simply turn the key on, the
>noise starts, and then quits after about a second.  I'm beginning to suspect
>the fuel pump.
>       Can I simply insert a small capacitor between the positive and negative
>power leads on the pump to cure it?  What value is recommended?

Oh yes, Earl, I've experienced that on several vehicles. If yours is
a Ford, there's a service bulletin out about it. Ford will install
a filter at the tank to suppress the hash (you may have to pay if the
vehicle is out of warranty).

If it isn't a Ford, you might have the problem anyway. A capacitor
can help, but it usually won't cure the problem by itself. You usually
need an L network consisting of a series choke and a shunt capacitor
installed right at the tank to form a low pass filter. The choke needs
to be fairly hefty so it won't create a voltage drop to the pump, but
needs a fairly high inductance (like a power supply choke), and the
capacitor needs to present a low reactance at the frequencies of
interference (usually a 100 uf and .001 uf in parallel will do the
job).

Before going overboard on the filter, however, check and make sure
the tank is well grounded to the frame (or unibody as the case may
be). If the tank is mounted with straps, it may not be well grounded
at RF frequencies. Of course all the usual body bonding steps should
be taken too. While they might not directly cure the fuel pump noise,
they will help with *any* noise suppression you attempt.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump causing noise?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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In article <[e-mail]> Earl Needham <needha
[e-mail]> writes:
>       Thanks for the suggestions, Gary.  (BTW -- it's been a long time since
>we spoke.)
>       Uh -- quick question -- how would I ground the gas tank?  All I can
>think of would be to drill a hole and put a bolt in -- obviously not a good
>thing!  ;-)
>       So what's the better way?

Well, don't *solder* wires to it either. :-)

Actually, you *can* do that (a wide copper strap rather than a wire)
if you first fill the tank to the very top with water. (This is an
old welder's trick.) But there are two things that are a bit less drastic
that you can do. The first is to take advantage of the bolts holding
the sending unit and pump in the tank. Just loosen these bolts and
slip your bonding conductor under them. This is the most useful thing
you can do, because this is where the offending wire leading to the
pump exits the tank (and where you're going to install the filter).
The other thing you can do is use finger stock to make friction contact
with the perimeter of the tank and bond it to the body that way. (You
can make your own finger stock, or use heavy commercial stuff.)

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:47 1996
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From: "k.tentarelli" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump causing noise?
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 06:11:59 -0400
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>
> [e-mail] (Earl Needham) wrote:
>
>     Has anyone experienced their electric fuel pump (mobile, of course)
>

The fuel pump is a big source of noise in Ford Explorers.
To cure it i ran a short wide ground strap from the pump ground to
the chassis, and ran pump wiring through a toroid.

Ken AC1H


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From: Bart Berg <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump causing noise?
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:31:43 -0500
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k.tentarelli wrote:
>
> >
> > [e-mail] (Earl Needham) wrote:
> >
> >     Has anyone experienced their electric fuel pump (mobile, of course)
> >
>
> The fuel pump is a big source of noise in Ford Explorers.
> To cure it i ran a short wide ground strap from the pump ground to
> the chassis, and ran pump wiring through a toroid.
>
> Ken AC1H
Ken,

How hard is it to get at the Explorer fuel pump?

Bart  K8IRC


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Electronic copy of new Extra question pool yet?
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 04:20:00 GMT
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>>I am looking for a copy of the new Extra question pool in text form if
>>someone has it.

It's available on ATD BBS, Walter!

ATTENTION to Details Landline BBS specializes in Amateur Radio,
telecommunications law, online privacy issues, and related
topics...as well as offering the finest Shareware products
available - from the Association of Shareware Professionals!

The BBS telephone number is 909-681-6221 (Riverside, CA).

Official Bulletin Station of the American Radio Relay League

Supporting BBS Member: Association of Shareware Professionals
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Voice Support [phone]



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Electronic copy of new Extra question pool yet?
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Walter R Francis ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I am looking for a copy of the new Extra question pool in text form if someo
ne
: has it.

You can save the Extra question pool as an .htm file from the Texas A&M
University ARC Web page, at:

http://w5ac.tamu.edu/exams/

and you can also take a practice exam online.

Good luck to you...I'm working on my Extra, after having my Advanced since
1968.

73 de Jim - KF6CR




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
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Subject: Force 12 antennas
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KB0OXD asked:

>  "...what exactly is a Force 12 antenna??"

    "Force 12" is a brand name for a line of HF antennas.

KB0OXD also asked:

>  " what's the beef behind no-coders like myself from replying to this
>    post??"

     No beef from me, or most of us here Pat.  We could care less
     how fast your code speed is (or if you can even copy Morse) so
     long as you contribute thoughtful, interesting, or even just
     funny messages.  Perhaps if you don't make a "deal" of your
     Morse speed (or lack of same), nobody else here will either.
     As a matter of fact, there is no requirement that you even be
     licensed to participate here. (But you already knew all that,
     so why don't you just drop your defensive attitude and enjoy!)

73, de Hans, K0HB/4ID
(Speaking for K0HB)





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From: Aubrey Hawkins <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.swap,dfw.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: FS: TNC $65.00
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:19:08 -0700
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Xref: news2.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:105573 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:31355 rec.radio.swap:70768 dfw.forsale:33160 tx.forsale:23021

I have a Pac-Comm Micropower 2 TNC I am wanting to sell.  It has the
manual and box and works great.  This is very similar to the KPC's.

$65.00 + shipping to your door.

Thanks

Aubrey Hawkins
KC5USI
Dallas


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hall Electronics good/bad ?
Date: 26 Jul 1996 15:45:15 -0400
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T E I X E I R A ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Allen) wrote:
: >Has anyone dealt with these people and if so......
: >any opinions ??... thanks 73     Allen

: If you are talking about Robert Hall Electronics they are great.  The
: prices are quite reasonable,  they are fast and do good work.

: I was told just yesterday that Robert has retired and moved but the
: shop is now run by his sister and is called Holly Electronc.  They say
: the phone and address is the same.  I have not verified this info.

: Don AC6TG
: Fremont, CA

On the other hand, if you are referring to Hall Electronics here in
Columbus, Oh (Doug Hall) they are also great to work with, and VERY
responsive to calls, etc. Their voting equipment and transceiver
controllers are top notch, never had a problem... Funny, I never realized
that there was another Hall Electronics out there. Oh well.. Anyway, we
have used their voting cards for years, they work great, and are easy to
interface. Of course, we are VERY local, but I don't think that is a
problem...
73,
--
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-
John Chapman    WB8INY
Ohio Section ARES, District Emergency Coordinator, District 7
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/wb8iny     (try it, you'll like it)


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:57 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: HAM CLASSES IN RICHMOND VIRGINIA..SEPTEMBER
Date: 21 Jul 1996 02:38:05 -0400
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          STUDY CLASSES FOR AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE!
                  RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, U.S.A.

   To enjoy the fascinating hobby of HAM RADIO, You must
   be licensed by the Federal Communications Commission.
   You are invited to enroll in a 10-week course of
   study for the following license:

          ***** Novice & NO-Code Technician *****

                ***** Technician Plus *****

                    ***** General *****

                  Registration fee $10.00

           Textbook used is "NOW YOU'RE TALKING"

     Registration/Orientation Thursday, September 12, 1996
      Schedule: Tuesdays & Thursdays 7:00 P.M. - 9:00 P.M.
      Classes begin Tuesday September 17, 1996

                           Place:
  Westhampton School  5800 Patterson Ave. (at Libby Ave.)
                 For more information,call:

              Mike Ratcliff,  KC4AHE, (804)-272-7167
              Warren Boyden,  KB4STL, (804)-233-3170
              Raymon Roberts, W4MYI,  (804)-740-5850

-------------------------------------------------------

                      Sponsored by the
                RICHMOND AMATEUR RADIO CLUB
          Club meetings 8:P.M. Every SECOND Friday
               Bon Air United Methodist Church
                      1645 Buford Road
                      VISITORS WELCOME

--

(S)lower (T)han (L)ight



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From: [e-mail] (Alice/Les Parker)
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Central Vermont Amateur Radio Club's  8th Annual

Fall Foliage Hamfest and Computer Fair

Saturday, September  21, 1996
at the Judd Gymnasium
Vermont Technical College in Randolf, Vermont
Rt.66  off  I - 89  Exit 4

Time:           8am - 3pm
Admission:      $4.00
Tables:                 Free while they last
Tailgating:     Included in admission price
Talk-in:                147.09/ .69,    146.625/ .025

Forums, VE Exams 12:30,  Lunch,  Door Prizes,  Grand Prize

for more info contact
Barry Driscoll, KE1BV                   or              Tom Giardi, WA1YNU
RR 1 Box 3165                                    PO Box 261
Barre, VT 05641                                  Waterbury, VT 05676
802-479-1408                                             802-224-7836
email:  [e-mail]

Camp at Lake Champagne Campground, 802-728-5293


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:58 1996
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HELP


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:25:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave ([e-mail]))
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Subject: Help: FT-530 getting extended aircraft  receive to work..
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Thanks for taking the time to read this.

        My FT-530 has the mods for am extended receive, but I can't seem to
enter any of these frequencies from the keypad???? I 'm sure that the
"A3 ON" appears. Maybe I don't have the right step selection? Damn.

Thanks in advance,

Dave
Livermore Falls, Maine
N1RPM



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: How to get started?
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[e-mail] (Ken Hoover) wrote:

>  I'm interested in getting started with amateur radio.  Can someone kindly
>email me a list of the things I should do to get started?  I know there are
>tests to be taken, books to be read and the like, but I'm at a loss as to
>where to start.

>  Thanks in advance for your assistance!
>                                                        - Ken Hoover

>--
>Ken Hoover  [e-mail]  |        When all you've got is a hammer,
>System & Network Admin    | all your problems start to look like nails.
>PSU College of Education  |         http://www.ed.psu.edu/~kenh

Check the ARRL's web page:

www.arrl.org

There should be lots of get started info there.

73, Jim KH2D




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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How to get started?I'm interested in getting started with amateur rad
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:22:00 GMT
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.  Can someone kindly

(Continued from previous message)

and more information about classes, examination points
(the exams are given by volunteer Hams in your community),
and clubs in your area.  A number of organizations will be
more than willing to help.  One such organization is the
American Radio Relay League.  Write them at:

  ARRL
  225 Main Street
  Newington, CT  06111

or call them at 1-800-32NEWHAM.

Ask for their "newcomers" package.  It will include more
detailed information, a list of classes and clubs in your
area, and a list of scheduled examinations in your area
also.

If you are near a Radio Shack store, go there and ask for
a book entitled "Now You're Talking".  This book is also
available from the ARRL.  It contains all the information
you need, including study material and sample questions
for the examinations for Novice and Technician licenses.

Good luck, and welcome to the "magical" hobby.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Andy Rinderknecht)
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UU>From: <[e-mail]>
UU>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
UU>Subject: I Passed My General!!!
UU>Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center
UU>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
UU>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:53:24 CDT
UU>
UU>At the FRRL hamfest yesterday, I passed my 3b written and my 13wpm
UU>code!
UU>I just wanted to tell the world!
UU>
UU>73
UU>
UU>-boB
UU>
UU>---

Hey boB,
 Congrats on that!  All I have to say about that is, watch out for the
advanced.
  I can say that because I am an extra.  HI HI.
                73     -ANDY-




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (VoltageS)
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Subject: IC-706 Antenna Tuners
Date: 22 Jul 1996 09:51:49 -0400
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Would appreciate any info, differece between and basic specs on AH-3 and
AT-180.  Thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:03 1996
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From: Joesph Fenn <[e-mail]>
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Does anybody know which color wire on which cable in the IC751 that
needs to be cut for General Coverage on Xmit?  I/E for use on MARS
frequencies???.   I was told it is a blue wire but not sure which
one.
                KH6JF




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (XENOCIDE)
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        Even though I'm not too good with HAM raidos I think I know how they
transmitted, and executed the vierus. If you noticed on onepart of the screen
there was some black and white 'fuzz' on the screen. That was a binary code se
t
to the Aliens code, the virus was transmitted using that code via radio, and
the virus was executed by that same code. I hope that clears everything up.

                      -Xenocide


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In article <[e-mail]>, bob  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>get a life

Oh no - another employee from that mortuary that resold occupied grave
plots!


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XENOCIDE wrote:
>
>         Even though I'm not too good with HAM raidos I think I know how they
> transmitted, and executed the vierus. If you noticed on onepart of the scree
n
> there was some black and white 'fuzz' on the screen. That was a binary code
set
> to the Aliens code, the virus was transmitted using that code via radio, and
> the virus was executed by that same code. I hope that clears everything up.
>
>                       -Xenocide
get a life it was just a movie


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Regional Warning Centre ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT

What figures say where abouts on the sun the sunspots are so as to know
when the new cycle is starting - the spots suddenly start appearing away
from the solar equator? How many years ago did that happen last time?

Brian Sandle


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To: [e-mail]
Subject: Italian ham in US needs help

>follow. The only thing I understood so far is that I can order a pizza
>(which I like very much! completely different from Italian pizzas, but
>still good!).

New York City pizza is the best!

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From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
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>>If I understand this, any 2m autopatch call is OK as long as...


No matter what the FCC deems to be "legal," you should ask your repeater
owner what types of transmissions are acceptable on each system. Don't
"push" the issue with a repeater owner. If he/she does NOT desire pizza
orders on their system, respect that decision.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bruce Micales)
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In article <4ss9c9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>"Thor Wiegman" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Why worry about it anyway?  How often do you actually find a need to
use
>>amateur radio to order pizza?  I would think that most people, when
>>ordering a pizza, would be close to a phone and amateur autopatches
are
>>often half duplex which confuses the hell out of the stupid pizza guys
so
>>why would you even bother.  But if you must try it, go ahead....if the
FCC
>>has a problem with it they'll let you know.
>
>Yes, ordering pizzas is a very good application for your cellular
>phone. Ordering pizzza over 2m just doesn't seem to do much to help
>justify amateurs' continued use of that valuable portion of VHF
>spectrum.

I think the "ordering  of pizza via 2 meters autopatch" bit was given
more as a tongue-in-cheek example about the use of amateur radio for
conducting business (not related to what you do for a living) than an
actual application.  However, I agree with Dan the use of 2 meters to
order a pizza is a waste of spectrum...unless you are at a remote site
fixing the local repeater and no phone is present :-).
>

Bruce Micales
WA2DEU
>



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
Date: 22 Jul 1996 12:48:26 GMT
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>   Because, Drew, the autopatch isn't free.  It's far more expensive
>to pay for the equipment, power, phone line, etc. for a 2M repeater
>with a patch than it is to use a cell phone for years.


It's cheaper for me.

I'm in my car, heading home from work, and I decide to order a pizza.  I
have two radio devices in my vehicle, both of which are capable of
allowing me to place a call and make my request.  One is free of usage
charges and the other is quite costly.

Which one will I use?  Which one would any normal, intelligent, budget-
conscious person use?

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM





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>No matter what the FCC deems to be "legal," you should ask your
repeater
>owner what types of transmissions are acceptable on each system. Don't
>"push" the issue with a repeater owner. If he/she does NOT desire pizza
>orders on their system, respect that decision.

Then they can close their repeater system.  If I come across an open
repeater and I wish to use it in a manner that has been approved by the
FCC, I will do so.  If someone has a personal problem with that, they can
close the machine.

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



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David Horak wrote:
>
> In <[e-mail]> Will Flor <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> >> how about to say they will be late?
>
> >I think that's a pretty clear-cut Part 97 violation.
>
> How could your business possibly benefit from you being late??  ;-)  ;-)
>
> David N5OFQ

david,thanks for your common sense support.
steve,(also hp)


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steve wrote:

>
> how about to say they will be late?


Thats illegal under Part 97...

73
Chris
WB5ITT


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SDrew Durigan wrote:
>
> >   Because, Drew, the autopatch isn't free.  It's far more expensive
> >to pay for the equipment, power, phone line, etc. for a 2M repeater
> >with a patch than it is to use a cell phone for years.
>
> It's cheaper for me.
>
> I'm in my car, heading home from work, and I decide to order a pizza.  I
> have two radio devices in my vehicle, both of which are capable of
> allowing me to place a call and make my request.  One is free of usage
> charges and the other is quite costly.
>
> Which one will I use?  Which one would any normal, intelligent, budget-
> conscious person use?
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>  KF4DDM


Sure friend and what class license do you have and how long have you had
it????


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In <[e-mail]> Will Flor <[e-mail]> writes:

>> how about to say they will be late?

>I think that's a pretty clear-cut Part 97 violation.

How could your business possibly benefit from you being late??  ;-)  ;-)

David N5OFQ


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Ted F wrote:
>
> KD1YV wrote:
> >
> > Mike Stansberry wrote:
> > >
> > > David Horak ([e-mail]) wrote:{deletia}
> > I think that you have answered your own question.  "Not getting fired" con
stitutes a
> > pecuniary interest.  If one does not get fired, then presumably one contin
ues to get
> > paid.
> >
> > We actually had this problem with one of our fairly new members a year or
so back, and
> > called him up short on it. {deletia}
> > 73 de Jim
> I hope if you banned him from the repeater you at least gave him his
> dues back!  As far as I see it, as long as his calls are legal and he
> isn't interfering(sp) with any other members of the repeater, what
> differance does it make who he talks to on the air.  At least he made a
>  contribution to help upkeep on the machine. It is more than MANY hams
> do that use a repeater daily!
> --
> Ted F./N3SQY

Ted

We didn't ban him from the repeater.  When I say that we called him up short,
I mean
that we spoke to him privately, on land-line, informing him that this is not a
 legal use
of amateur radio.  I still stand by that statement, that calling one's employe
r to
inform the employer of one's tardiness constitutes pecuniary interest to the e
mployee,
i.e., the ham/caller.

After speaking to this person, that practice did stop.  Had it not, we probabl
y would
have considered alternative actions.

73 de Jim


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KD1YV wrote:
>
> Mike Stansberry wrote:
> >
> > David Horak ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > : In <[e-mail]> Will Flor <[e-mail]> writes:
> >
> > : >> how about to say they will be late?
> >
> > : >I think that's a pretty clear-cut Part 97 violation.
> >
> > : How could your business possibly benefit from you being late??  ;-)  ;-)
> >
> > : David N5OFQ
> >
> > How could a person possibly benefit from notifying their boss they
> > were going to be late (and perhaps not getting fired for not letting
> > the boss know)?
> >
> > Mike, K0TER
>
> I think that you have answered your own question.  "Not getting fired" const
itutes a
> pecuniary interest.  If one does not get fired, then presumably one continue
s to get
> paid.
>
> We actually had this problem with one of our fairly new members a year or so
 back, and
> called him up short on it.  Of course, I think that the only reason that he
joined the
> club was to get use of the autopatch.  He rarely talks to any other ham on t
he air, only
> his buddy who was licensed at the same time as he was, both exchanging mis-i
nformation
> about ham radio, but both with a real "I know it all" attitude.
>
> 73 de Jim
I hope if you banned him from the repeater you at least gave him his
dues back!  As far as I see it, as long as his calls are legal and he
isn't interfering(sp) with any other members of the repeater, what
differance does it make who he talks to on the air.  At least he made a
 contribution to help upkeep on the machine. It is more than MANY hams
do that use a repeater daily!
--
Ted F./N3SQY
Homepage: www.lm.com/~tfalkow/
Mail: [e-mail]
"Never go straight, only go forward"


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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:

>Just make sure it's a nice, big house with a tower and some beams on top.
> A scummy old trailer with a mag mount stuck on the window air
>conditioner probably isn't gonna get you much.

>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
> KF4DDM

Guess your station is safe from legal action then eh Drew?

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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Thompson)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:

>>Many a repeater jammer has
>>been silenced with the proper, strategic placement of a simple steel
>>pin!

>Many a Drew have been silenced with the proper, strategic placement of a
>simple slug of lead between the eyes.

>Quick, effective, inexpensive, and most importantly...SOLVES THE PROBLEM!

Yep sure does. Maybe one day Drew will get caught pinning someones
coax...then again Drew is too chicken shit to do that himself.

73




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From: [e-mail] (Walter R Francis)
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On 20-Jul-96 02:26:09, Drew Durigan articulated:

>If you would rather play footsie with the guy by "asking him nicely to
>please not jam the repeater anymore", or waste time with the FCC (who
>could CARE LESS about amateur issues in this day and age), that's your
>business.  But I choose to solve the problem.  Many a repeater jammer has
>been silenced with the proper, strategic placement of a simple steel
>pin!

Tell me, honestly, how many jammers on 2M do you think have antennas up?
Three of the jammers we've had here lately have been portable stations, most
likely stolen radios.  A lot of the time we hear them for a day or two then
nothing else, assumably their battery died and they were too brain dead to
figure out how to recharge it.

I'd like to see you pin someones rubber duck..  They'll prolly kick you in
your 'rubber duck'..

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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:24 1996
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From: [e-mail](David Tobachnik)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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Many a repeater jammer has
> >been silenced with the proper, strategic placement of a simple steel
> >pin!
Oh yea. One jammer on Long Island was found at the bottom a a flight of
stairs with his head split open.
His freinds went on a jamming frenzy. He became a MARTYR! Vengence!!!
Turns out though that his injury was unrelated to radio jamming or
anyone who knew him. The perpetrator was a stanger.



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Paul Merrell)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:25:32 GMT
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I have heard of spreading the news but this is something.  Jammers on
2 meters are as common as pizza Hut.  I think that we should move on.
Do not like the jamming just change the channel or go for what I do
turn the damn thing off.



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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[e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus) wrote:


>Geeze Michael, give it a rest. The VHF/UHF bands have been "channelized"
>for the past 20 years. Or are you still trying to use that Eico VFO with
>a Gonset Communicator?

>Jeff

>--
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Oh?  FIne, then meet me on 2 meters, channel 16,  and we'll talk about
it!  A channel every 5kHz....what a concept!

Steve WB7PSD



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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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[e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth) wrote:

>On 24 Jul 1996 22:06:47 -0400, [e-mail] (Michael P. Deign
an)
>wrote:
>>In article <4t5pj0$[e-mail]>,
>>      Richard Paul Merrell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>just change the channel
>>
>>Umm, in case you didn't memorize the question in the question pool,
>>we don't have "channels", we have "frequencies".
>>
>In case your total experience is just some memorized some test questions, SOM
E
>radios have channels (sometimes called 'modes' and various other things...)

>My vhf syntor_x has channels, 32 in fact.

>-be
]

...because a Syntor X  is a COMMERCIAL radio that must be
preprogrammed or has channel elements or crystals, NOT because there
is a coherent standard that assigns common channel numbers to specific
amateur frequencies within a band.

The radios have "channels", but the amateur bands do not.

Steve
WB7PSD



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 25 Jul 1996 12:34:04 GMT
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>So do what the one of the radio groups
>I belong to did - have a friendly attorney draft a letter to the
>jammer telling him/her that he/she is no longer welcome on the repeater
>and if activity continues a civil action will result. This method
>was very succesful.

On what grounds?  What legal footing would you possibly have to file a
civil action against someone for transmissions (legal or not) that they
make over PUBLICLLY OWNED, amateur radio frequencies.

While I'm not in any way defending the activities of a repeater jammer,
threatening to file frivilous litigation is not the answer.

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



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On 24 Jul 1996 22:06:47 -0400, [e-mail] (Michael P. Deigna
n)
wrote:
>In article <4t5pj0$[e-mail]>,
>       Richard Paul Merrell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>just change the channel
>
>Umm, in case you didn't memorize the question in the question pool,
>we don't have "channels", we have "frequencies".
>
In case your total experience is just some memorized some test questions, SOME
radios have channels (sometimes called 'modes' and various other things...)

My vhf syntor_x has channels, 32 in fact.

-be


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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus)
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[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>Umm, in case you didn't memorize the question in the question pool,
>we don't have "channels", we have "frequencies".

>Another fine example of what the codeless license has given to the
>amateur radio service.

Geeze Michael, give it a rest. The VHF/UHF bands have been "channelized"
for the past 20 years. Or are you still trying to use that Eico VFO with
a Gonset Communicator?

Jeff

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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
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[e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ wrote:

>Actually, the was a case a yar or two ago, where a california based repaeter
club sued and won against a known
>jammer.  the fool actually went back on the air and is currently in jail.

>I am sure some one out there in internet land has more details

>just my way of contributing

>steve

I don't follow all the current legal discussions in the ham groups,
but this one has me a bit confused.  Hopefully, as Steve says, maybe
someone 'out there in internet land' has more information.

Here's my question: If a repeater group 'sued a known jammer', I
assume it would be a civil suit (as opposed to a criminal suit) unless
the U.S. has gotten so law suit happy now that individuals can file
criminal charges against each other.  So how do people go to jail as
the result of a civil law suit ?  Is there a special radio prison for
bad hams ?

73, Jim KH2D




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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
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>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:
>  >So do what the one of the radio groups
>  >I belong to did - have a friendly attorney draft a letter to the
>  >jammer telling him/her that he/she is no longer welcome on the repeater
>  >and if activity continues a civil action will result. This method
>  >was very succesful.
>
>  On what grounds?  What legal footing would you possibly have to file a
>  civil action against someone for transmissions (legal or not) that they
>  make over PUBLICLLY OWNED, amateur radio frequencies.
>
>  While I'm not in any way defending the activities of a repeater jammer,
>  threatening to file frivilous litigation is not the answer.
>
>  -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>   KF4DDM


Actually, the was a case a yar or two ago, where a california based repaeter c
lub sued and won against a known
jammer.  the fool actually went back on the air and is currently in jail.

I am sure some one out there in internet land has more details

just my way of contributing

steve

Hey there drew.  still spinning the platters, stacks of wax,  running the beat
 that's neat???


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4tc2rj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writ
es:
>Here's my question: If a repeater group 'sued a known jammer', I
>assume it would be a civil suit (as opposed to a criminal suit) unless
>the U.S. has gotten so law suit happy now that individuals can file
>criminal charges against each other.  So how do people go to jail as
>the result of a civil law suit ?  Is there a special radio prison for
>bad hams ?

Violating a civil ruling places you in contempt of court, and judges
can toss your butt in jail for as long as they like for that.

Gary

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es
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 26 Jul 1996 12:08:53 GMT
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>Actually, the was a case a yar or two ago, where a california based
repaeter >club sued and won against a known
>jammer.  the fool actually went back on the air and is currently in jail.


Hey, a California jury also ruled that OJ was innocent...and wasn't it a
California jury that found Mc Donalds liable for $50 million because some
idiot spilled hot coffee in her lap?

Nothing surprises me anymore in this joke of a legal system that we have
today.


>Hey there drew.  still spinning the platters, stacks of wax,  running
the beat >that's neat???

Yeah.  Fun stuff.

 "Beat that's neat?"  Now THAT'S a new one!  <g>


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: Japanese Ham URL Links
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:31:34 GMT
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steve <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Shiro Sakai wrote:
>>
>> If you need Japanese Ham URL, please access
>>
>> http://www.big.or.jp/~jh4phw/pubhtml/links.html
>>
>> de JH4PHW

>did not work for me,hope it will.
>73 steve

Worked fine for me. It has 307 links to  ham pages. Maybe your
internet provider's computer doesn't speak Japanese  8<)

73, Jim KH2D




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
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Subject: Re: Learning CW-any pointers?
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Thomas Foster <[e-mail]> wrote:

>> If you want to develop the ability to copy at high speed, I'd suggest
>> you don't want to write or print by hand. Rather, I'd suggest copying
>> with a keyboard. You can type lots faster than you can write. You do
>> want to get what you copy down on paper (or disk), however. That's what
>> makes it copy. VEs are supposed to let you take the test with a typewriter,
>> the FCC did when they were giving the exams, and I'd suppose they'd allow
>> a basic word processor too. (You wouldn't want to use one with automatic
>> spell checking, however, since the text you're copying might be deliberatel
y
>> mispelled, and it might be considered cheating by some too.)

>I agree. After one begins to find his limit copying by hand, a typewriter
>will greatly facilitate the copy, assuming that one can already type
>reasonably well! Copying code by typewriter, however, is a skill in
>itself. First, one has to learn by reflex action how to type, then learn by
>reflex action which key to type when a code character is sounded.

The Navy use to teach people to copy CW with a typewriter. Only
problem with this method is that it is like learning to walk with a
crutch.  I had a friend who was a ham and an old Navy CW op. He could
copy 45 to 50 wpm - with a typewriter - and 0 wpm without one.  Every
time we heard a pileup on CW he'd have to jam a piece of paper in the
typewriter to figure out who the DX station was.

Unless you are going to apply for a job where you will be sending and
receiving five letter code groups, I see no reason to worry about
getting things down verbatim on paper.  I think you would be much
better off to learn how to copy in your head, without a crutch, and
just jot down the important things on paper, like you would do if you
were taking  notes during a lecture.  I've worked a lot of hams on CW,
but I can't remember any qso's that were important enuff that they had
to be written word for word.

73, Jim KH2D



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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> There have been some very good pointers given by previous entries. Here is m
ine.
> It is important to just stay the course, keep with it. For some reason peopl
e
> think they should be able to pick up the code "just like that". They forget
waha
> it took to learn to type, drive a car, play the trombone, etc. or whatever.
> Just become committed that you will do it. No matter what, you will do it.
> It was very very difficult for me. But I stuck with it because I knew it was
> worth it. And it was. It is worth any and all the effort you may have to mak
e.
> I flunked the Extra CW test twice (at the FCC, 1 min., 100 characters in a r
ow
> correct) which made finally passing it all the more worthwhile.

You can see from all the above that there are varied methods and
opinions.
Find a method that works for you and, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE. I
took
me about 5 months to get to 5 WPM. I memorized the basic letters from
the
'rhythm of the code' tapes and worked from there using Supermorse 4,
and
a weekly class with the local HAM CLUB I belong too. I worked at it for
about 60 minutes a day in three 20 minutes sessions.  Personally, I'm
waiting for the
WARC '97 results before I decide to go on to 12.

'73, and thanks for reading.
Gabe, ve3-slj.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (VROUHETTE)
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Subject: Mod kenwood th26
Date: 21 Jul 1996 16:19:08 -0400
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Hello

I am french and I would like to increase frequencies on it.

If someone could explain it me . Thanks

Please write in e-mail : [e-mail]

Thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (robert)
Subject: Mods and info Kenwoog tm-733
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hello i'am searching for any mods and docs about my tranceiver
The kenwwod TM 733
Who has any

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Hello,

I'am searching for mods and remote programs for my icom icr 7100

sent them to me pse.

--- [e-mail] ---


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:43 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Need Info
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 21:30:58 -0700
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To: MATT FISHER <[e-mail]>

MATT FISHER wrote:
>
> Anyone out there have the info on how to subscribe to the Boston Amateur Rad
io Club listserve?  Please send me the info if you have it by
chance. Thanks for the help........

Matt, Go To Dino's Amateur Radio Related Mailing Lists at URL:

http://www.cam.org/~dino/hamlists.html

You will find the following there as well as a way to subscribe right
from the web.

 barc-list: Boston Amateur Radio Club
          Information, discussion and anouncements for the Boston
Amateur Radio Club and
          hams in Eastern Massachusetts.

          To subscribe: Send mail to [e-mail] with text (not
subject): subscribe
          barc-list
          To unsubscribe: Send mail to [e-mail] with text
(not subject):
          unsubscribe barc-list
          For more info: Send mail to [e-mail] with text (not
subject): help
          To post: Send mail to [e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------
Many other Amateur Radio Related Mailing Lists there as well.

73 from San Diego

Rod

--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:46 1996
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[e-mail] (RICHARD A. NELSON) wrote:

>In <[e-mail]> Avatar <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>Eric Oyen wrote:
>>>
>>> [e-mail] (RWC) wrote:
>>>
>>> >       Well, I *was* looking into possibly starting a hobby out of
>HAM.
>>> >But judging by these past 2 posts, one by Bill Newkirk WB9IVR, I
>see that
>>> >the attitudes and childishness isn't lmited to the people on "CB"
>Radios.
>>> >Perhaps HAM isn't for me after all, if Bill is any indication of
>the
>>> >types of people that are out there.

>today's hams really are not any different than cbers... they just
>crammed for a test.  if you are thin skinned pick a different hobby.

>rich  wb0ikn

I wouldn't go so far as to say that Rich.  What our wanna be friend
needs to realize is that the world is full of assholes, and ham radio
is just a cross section of people that inhabit the world.

73, Jim KH2D




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Avatar ([e-mail]) writes:
> Eric Oyen wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] (RWC) wrote:
>>
>> >       Well, I *was* looking into possibly starting a hobby out of HAM.
>> >But judging by these past 2 posts, one by Bill Newkirk WB9IVR, I see that
>> >the attitudes and childishness isn't lmited to the people on "CB" Radios.
>> >Perhaps HAM isn't for me after all, if Bill is any indication of the
>> >types of people that are out there.


Unfortunately I came in at the end of this thread.  I have noticed that
some are to quick to jump on those who have made a mistake.  I would like
to make a suggestion though, when posing a question it would be better to
put the important part of it in the subject header instead of  "PLEASE
READ".  There is only so much time in the day and in my case on line time
to read posts.  One get's good at weeding out the chain letters and "Burt
Fisher" nonsense that you don't read those.  I scan the subject headings
much the same way I do the newspaper.  If it is something that I have an
interest in or catches my eye I will stop and read it.  Just give a clue
of what you want and perhaps the answers will come faster and by those who
really do help.  BTW just about anything written by Gary Coffman is worth
reading.  He always is helpful and well thoughtout.

so don't give up too quickly.

73


--
Mark J.  Boyer VE3MJB   [e-mail]
                        [e-mail]

If diamonds are a girls best friend, then gravity must be her worst enemy!


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I am putting together a amateur radio site at
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1048
I have informative texts and antenna projects.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
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In <[e-mail]> AC6V <[e-mail]> writes:

>Blackie Lawless wrote:
>>
>> I am starting a project compiling and posting email addresses of Hams
>> that would like to participate.  If you would like your email address
>> posted on my page check out the site and fill out the form.  Hopefully
>> this will be something useful in helping look up some old ham buddies.
>>
>> Ham Radio Operator Email Database
>> http://www.gate.net/~blackie/ham.htm
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Craig WB0WJE

>There is already a Ham Radio Internet Address List at:

>ftp://ftp.cs.buffalo.edu/pub/ham-radio/hams_on_usenet

It's way out of date though.  I don't begrudge the volunteer maintainer
for wanting to move on to other things, but it does leave the project
hanging.

There is also another such project integrated into a callbook server at
qrz.com.

For information about both services, consult the following URL's:

http://www.gonix.com/pschleck/elmers/L.html#Lloyd
http://www.gonix.com/pschleck/elmers/S.html#Salyzyn

>One more can't hurt

If it's maintained correctly (wrong and out-of-date information can be
worse than no information at all).  I still remain skeptical of the
long-term viability of any volunteer project on the net, though.
However, I always welcome the opportunity to eat my words and be
pleasantly surprised.

--
73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU
[e-mail]
http://www.gonix.com/pschleck/
Finger [e-mail] for PGP Public Key



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
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Jim Lowman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Brian Kantor ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: Just a brief reminder, folks, that the rec.radio.amateur.misc newsgroup
>: isn't a for-sale group.  Rec.radio.swap was created for that purpose.
>: Thank you.

>Great, here's another flamewar about to start.

Well, it pains me to admit it but Brian is correct. What's the point of
having distinct rec.radio newsgroups if folks continuously misdirect
their posts to the wrong group? The last thing we need is to see 100+
Motorola sale items listed here daily.

Going a step further, questions regarding equipment and modifications
to such are supposed to go to r.r.a.equipment, not here.

And The Mother Of All Debates (code vs nocode) belongs on r.r.a.policy.

Now where's that #%$@&*  FAQ?!?!

Jeff KH2PZ / KH6


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
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>[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>>>I also used my ARC-5 tx as a novice (with VFO) with well regulated
>>>supplies and kept the unit on 24 hrs-a-day to prevent drifting.

The quotation marks don't seem to match the attribution line; Gary,
did you really write that?

Jeff KH2PZ


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Hi Dick,

Many years since I last spoke with you. How have you been?

Bill Sabin W0IYH


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When I was in the US Navy aboard the USS Atlanta (CL106) in 1946 I used
to repair and do routine maintenance on all of the ARC-5 radios.  Our two
SC-2 catapult seaplanes used them.

Bill W0IYH


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Is there a Special Event station for the Olympics?  Can someone post/email
the information?

Thanks!
-David  N9PGH


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Burch Akin wrote:
>
> I am about to move into a new home.  I am a little concerned about
> some big power lines on two sides of my property.  I read that a DSP
> unit would help, but probably not take care of all the noise.  Any
> suggestions on how to fight power line noise?
>
> K4QXX

The JPS AN-4 works against this type of noise.
73
VE6DK/W6


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From: "Gary Coombs" <[e-mail]>
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: 1)  Do you send your own QSL card, in response to an "unsolicited" card
:     arriving in your mailbox?

Always.  I think it is part of the hobby.  I've enjoyed receiving QSL cards
for 40 years.  It never gets old.

: 2)  Do you send your card in an envelope?

After seeing how some cards arrive that aren't in an envelope, yes, I do.

: 3)  ...with a SASE or "green stamp" enclosed?

Only if requested, or if it is direct mail DX.

: 4)  Do you QSL 100%, under some circumstances, or not at all?

100% to all who send me a card.  Only to those I want a card from
otherwise.

: 5)  Do you believe that all pertinent info should be printed/written on
the
: *front* of the card?

It would destroy the beauty of some cards.  Not a necessity for me.

: While we're at it, I see a real deterioration in the quality of QSL
cards,
: based on most of the samples I have received.  Most look so cheap, I'd be
: ashamed to send them out.  Lots of samples were just printed on card
stock,
: which I could do with my graphics software and inkjet printer, so why
: involve a middleman?
:
: I realize that most hams operate on a limited budget, postage rates have
: gone up (especially if one pays postage both ways) and none of us ever
seem
: to have a lot of time, so I'm not being critical; just trying to do the
: right thing.

It never ceases to amaze me how a ham can spend many thousands of $$$ on a
rig and an antenna and then try to get by as cheaply as possible on a junk
QSL card.  I'm thoroughly disgusted with the el cheapo cards you get that
all look alike except for the call sign, just an outline of a state and some
info.  Makes you wonder what kind of pride the guy feels, if any at all.
And then he usually has the nerve to display on his wall the prettiest cards
he has received!

A well designed, beautiful QSL card costs a small fraction of the total $$$
spent on this hobby.  Make it something you will be proud to send.

Gary, N4OJW  (Soon to be my original call, K9IDU !)


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From: [e-mail] (Zack Widup)
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>
>It never ceases to amaze me how a ham can spend many thousands of $$$ on a
>rig and an antenna and then try to get by as cheaply as possible on a junk
>QSL card.  I'm thoroughly disgusted with the el cheapo cards you get that
>all look alike except for the call sign, just an outline of a state and some
>info.  Makes you wonder what kind of pride the guy feels, if any at all.
>And then he usually has the nerve to display on his wall the prettiest cards
>he has received!
>
>A well designed, beautiful QSL card costs a small fraction of the total $$$
>spent on this hobby.  Make it something you will be proud to send.
>
>Gary, N4OJW  (Soon to be my original call, K9IDU !)
>

I actually have two sets of cards. One is the plain W4MPY card which I
send out to the DXpeditions and contest stations who receive probably
60,000 of them and often don't keep them.

The other is a specially-designed card. I went to all the trouble of
tracking down Hans Evers, PA0CX, to request permission to use one of his
cartoons from HAM RADIO magazine for my card (which he gladly permitted.)
I have received many positive comments on this card, so I know people
enjoy its uniqueness!

73, Zack W9SZ


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: QSL Practices and card quality?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) writ
es:
-1)  Do you send your own QSL card, in response to an "unsolicited" card
-    arriving in your mailbox?

Yep, of course.  (except if it is a bad one [busted call, etc.]; then I
return it with a note)

-2)  Do you send your card in an envelope?
Yes.  They would get pretty chewed up otherwise.  I also picked up a nice
box of envelopes that look like greeting card (or perhaps wedding invitation)
envelopes at a local thrift shop.  I use these for DX cards that aren't
going somewhere with "radio club" or similar in the name (to limit
green-stamp theft)

-3)  ...with a SASE or "green stamp" enclosed?

US cards go out with SASE's (Haven't tried the US buro yet; will probably
fo them that way for the next contest I work...)  DX cards either go out
via the buro (if I remember; I'm moving, and just found an envelope of cards
that should have been sent out a while ago).  If it's something I need badly,
 like a new country or state, it will go out with a SAE and green stamp.

-4)  Do you QSL 100%, under some circumstances, or not at all?

I QSL 100%, though it may take a while before I run off the cards.

-5)  Do you believe that all pertinent info should be printed/written on the
-*front* of the card?

DX stations and managers prefer that.  I do it since it is much easier
to print a single-sided card.

-Lots of samples were just printed on card stock,
-which I could do with my graphics software and inkjet printer, so why
-involve a middleman?

What's wrong with that?  I wrote a program that takes my log book and
generates filled-out cards for any unsent contact.  I print mine on
index-card stock with either a laser printer for my regular B&W cards,
or an ink jet for the color ones.  I don't see any real reason to go out
and have cards made up when I can make (and customise) my own;  I guess
it's just the homebrew spirit in me...

73,
/mike

--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai        N1IST       [e-mail]     \|/
-*- === Boston Amateur Radio Club:  http://www.barc.org/barc === -*-
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From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:26:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Just Me)
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Subject: Re: Radio Mods for MARS freq
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 20:44:27 GMT
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On 21 Jul 1996 06:24:16 GMT, Rick Bullon
<a0007086@[e-mail]> wrote:

>can anyone tell me if the Kenwood TM 733A can be modified to transmit on the
MARS freq?
>I just recieved the forms to join navy Mars and I'm not sure if my UHF VHF eq
uiptment can be
>made to work in the mars freq.
>                                   73
>                                   Rick Bullon KC5AJX
>
>
I don't have the info for you, Rick, but contact the State MARS
Directo or High Tech director for your state.  Most MARS packet boards
have large databases of info on freq mods.  Unfortunatly, I don't have
your rig in mine.  You can also check with a local ham dealer.  Most
of them will do the mod with proof of MARS membership.

Good luck!

Kevin  N0OAS/ AAR8GF (Colorado Wyoming Army MARS)



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:00 1996
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From: KD1YV <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack HTX-212 modification
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Ronald Glanzer wrote:
>
> Does anyone now how to modify Radio Shacks 2m mobile radio (HTX-212) so
> that you can store non-amateur radio frequencies in memory?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> N0SVC (Ron)

Sorry, Ron, from what I know it can't be done.  Rumor is that their new
2m mobile (HTX-242 I think) will allow this.

73 de Jim


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From: [e-mail] (Ronald Glanzer)
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Subject: Radio Shack HTX-212 modification
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Does anyone now how to modify Radio Shacks 2m mobile radio (HTX-212) so
that you can store non-amateur radio frequencies in memory?

Thanks in advance.
N0SVC (Ron)


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From: Ray Matthews <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack HTX-212 modification
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Ronald Glanzer wrote:
>
> Does anyone now how to modify Radio Shacks 2m mobile radio (HTX-212) so
> that you can store non-amateur radio frequencies in memory?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> N0SVC (Ron)

    Cannot be done. Sorry!


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:03 1996
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From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack HTX-212 modification
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KD1YV wrote:
>
> Ronald Glanzer wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone now how to modify Radio Shacks 2m mobile radio (HTX-212) so
> > that you can store non-amateur radio frequencies in memory?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > N0SVC (Ron)
>
> Sorry, Ron, from what I know it can't be done.  Rumor is that their new
> 2m mobile (HTX-242 I think) will allow this.
>
> 73 de Jim

The 242 definitely allows this; I know of no such mod for the 212
either.  Sorry, and good luck!

73 de KB9JTT


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:05 1996
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From: steve <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Satellite Tracking Program
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:43:55 -0700
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To: Roberto Franceschetti <[e-mail]>

Roberto Franceschetti wrote:
>
> The best is surely out there..! It's LogSat for Windows. Check out the
> home page at http://www.logsat.com  You can download a demo or order the
> software online.
>
> You can track all the satellites you want in a single windows, and
> furthermore you can open as many windows as you want at the same time. It
> uses the KCT to interface with the rotor. There's a kazillion of other
> features, but the best description can be seen on the home page. There
> you'll also find fresh keps, separated by satellite type (amateur,
> weather, visible etc.), and moon keps for EME.
>
> Ciao de
> Roberto  ik8sqi
>
> Paul S. George <[e-mail]> wrote in article
> <[e-mail]>...
> > I have a question... Is there a consensus as to what is the best
> (feature,
> > price, etc.) satellite tracking program available (PC or Mac)?  I've
> been
> > using WinOrbit (shareware) and it does a reasonable job, but it does
> lack
> > a few features such as tracking multiple satellites in the same window
> and
> > the ability to interface with an antenna Az/El controller.
> >
> > If anyone out there is using one or has an opinion as to which one is
> > best, I would certainly be interested in your opinion.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > Paul S. George  n8xqv  ([e-mail])
> >but where is my logsat manual?7 months and waiting.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:06 1996
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From: duane <[e-mail]>
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Subject: schematic program
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:34:23 -0400
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Does anyone know of a program a person can use to draw schematics with
and then save the file for later viewing. I down loaded the spice
program but have know idea how to use it and i dont think you can draw
schematics with it anyways. If anyone knows where i can download a
schematic drawing program thats easy to use please let me know.
thanks [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (bob puharic)
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Subject: surge protection
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I recently had a near miss that cooked my modem, modem power supply
(dead short), and rotator control box. the control box was
disconnected from the tower thru the use of a jones plug, but it was
plugged into the wall.
the modem and its supply was plugged into an "EFI" brand surge
protector.  Surprisingly the surge protector was not damaged. The
modem was not connected to the fone line at the time.

i sent the protector back to EFI asking them to honor their warranty
which said that if a piece of equipment was damaged while connected to
it, they'd pay for it. They refused, saying that part of the warranty
(which they dont spell out in the "fine print") says that the surge
protector must be damaged for the warranty to be honored. They also
said the protector was UL tested.

My questions are these:

1. is it possible for a surge protector to pass a surge without
becoming damaged. if so, how?

2. When I was in grad school, i remember a term "warrant of
merchantibility".  would this apply in this case, in spite of the
limited warranty they want to honor?





From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:08 1996
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From: Pierre Thomson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: surge protection
Date: 22 Jul 1996 12:31:33 GMT
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[e-mail] (bob puharic) wrote:
>
> I recently had a near miss that cooked my modem, modem power supply
> (dead short), and rotator control box. the control box was
> disconnected from the tower thru the use of a jones plug, but it was
> plugged into the wall.
> the modem and its supply was plugged into an "EFI" brand surge
> protector.  Surprisingly the surge protector was not damaged. The
> modem was not connected to the fone line at the time.
>
>
> 1. is it possible for a surge protector to pass a surge without
> becoming damaged. if so, how?
>

Sure.  If your outlet ground (third pin) doesn't have a very low
impedance path to ground (the same ground your antenna, phone line,
and other systems reference), your protector won't touch common-mode
surges.  Also, depending on the waveform of the surge, some parts
of your protector may not react fast enough to blow.

Another thing:  to pass UL 1449 certification, an AC protector
only has to limit surges to 450 volts or so.  Many cheap power
supplies will fry at a lower voltage.

73,
Pierre Thomson KA2QPG


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:09 1996
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From: Gabe Nemeth <[e-mail]>
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Subject: THANK YOU: For help on D104 Schematic !!
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:32:57 -0400
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Thanks! to those who responded with the information on the Astatic
D104. The help from other HAMs is truly appreciated and makes the hobby
all the more worth while! I have all I need now and have found that
there
are two errors, the AMP and the wiring.
Cheers, and '73
Gabe, VE3-SLJ


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Matt Brosious)
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I'm going to the Timonium, MD hamfest this weekend.
I lost my info, if anybody has the date and time it
would be appreciated. A contact land line# would be great too!

Thanks,

Matt N2NBT




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John Frank ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4t381k$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
: >
: >I'm going to the Timonium, MD hamfest this weekend.
: >I lost my info, if anybody has the date and time it
: >would be appreciated. A contact land line# would be great too!
: >
: >Thanks,
: >
: >Matt N2NBT
: >
: >
:  Sunday the 28th. I believe it starts at 8 AM.
:
:                Jack  WB3ICL


If anyone has any more info...please pass it along to me as well...

Thanks,

=-=-=-=-=-=-= Brian Raines  <[e-mail]> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
              --------------------------------------
http://www.universe.digex.net/~bnr/3000.html    The Uniden BC3000xlt

"Forget that blind ambition, And learn to trust your intuition,
Plowin' straight ahead come what may"   - J.B.


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:12 1996
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From: Pasquale Canu <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Tnx to ALL reply'ers
Date: 26 Jul 1996 16:24:40 GMT
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MANY TNX TO ALL WHO HAVE REPLYED TO MY MSG
LOOKING FOR A UP TO DATE PREFIX LIST

I HAVE GOT A GREAT RESPONSE FROM MANY USERS

SO TO THEM ALL   MANY MANY THANKS

FROM PASQUALE ONL4342



BEST 73's AND TAKE CARE





From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:13 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Gary Coffman" writes:

> In article <[e-mail]> Stan Vandiver <[e-mail]> wri
tes:> >GroverC wrote:
> >> In Gate 2, am I allowed to go for a K#xxx or are the W and K by 3 calls
> >> not available?
> >
> >In Gate 2, you can request ANY callsign that is available... provided
> >that you are an extra class license holder.  If you prefer a 1x3 instead
> >of a 1x2, you can get it.
>
> Yeah, but any licensee eligible for a Group C call sign can get a 1x3.
> It isn't limited only to Extras.

In Gate 2 it definitely *IS* limited only to Extras.

Is this the last hurrah for wetware versus digital modes? <g>

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Carrubba)
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Lindenhurst, NY - July 28

Sunday July 28 ARRL VE NORTH LINDENHURST,LI

The Great South Bay ARC hosts ARRL amateur radio exams every 4th
Sunday at 12 noon. Exams are given from Novice to Extra class.
All exams are ARRL/VEC, CW exams are multiple choice w/ full headphones.
The examination site is in the ARES/RACES room located in the basement.
Access is at the rear of the building via stairs.  Ring RED (TOP) buzzer
for entry.

Location: Babylon Town Hall
          Emergency Operations Center
          200 E. Sunrise Hwy.
          North Lindenhurst, NY

Talk in : 146.685/r 136.5pl

Please bring the following:
- Photocopy and original of current Amateur Radio License if licensed.
- Photocopy and original of CSCE(s) that are current.
- two forms of ID, at least one photo ID.
- pens or pencils.
- Calculator for math problems on exams, no pocket computers are allowed.
- 1996 Exam fee is $6.05, please bring exact change.
  * Novice exams (elements 1A & 2) are free.

For addition information you may contact:

Walter Wenzel KA2RGI [phone]
Tom Carrubba KA2DFO  [phone] or 422-9594




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Digna E. Eads)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Want to get into Ham radio-anyone recommend a radio?
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:34:11 GMT
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[e-mail](Steven G. Davis) wrote:

>I am looking for a dual band VHF-UHF radio! Anyone have any
>recommendations?
>
>Any help appreciated.
>    Thanks.
Steven,
If you are looking for a TOP QUALITY dual band radio, stay with Yaesu,
Icom or Kenwood. The Alinco falls in the same class as the Radio Shack
Ham equipment, re: not worth your time. They remind me of the old Ford
addage, "Fix Or Repair Daily". I have seen more Alinco and R/S
equipment spending more time being repaired than used.
73
N0EVG


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:16 1996
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From: Gerry Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Want to get into Ham radio-anyone recommend a radio?
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:56:23 -0700
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Well I have had am Alinco for alomst two years, the DJ-580 and have used
it and carried it all over. Not had any problems so far.
--

Gerry Mitchell                     Ham Radio: KB0PJG
Fort Collins, Colorado             http://www.frii.com/~mitch/


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:17 1996
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From: "David W. Knisely" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Want to get into Ham radio-anyone recommend a radio?
Date: 27 Jul 1996 03:04:42 GMT
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BTW: the radio in question is an HTX-242 mobile rig.  In addition to the birdi
e,
the rig isn't real hot in the receive end either.  My ICOM IC-W2A beats it
easily.

David Knisely KA0CZC



From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Want to get into Ham radio-anyone recommend a radio?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>[e-mail](Steven G. Davis) wrote:
>>I am looking for a dual band VHF-UHF radio! Anyone have any
>>recommendations?
>>    Thanks.
>Steven,
>If you are looking for a TOP QUALITY dual band radio, stay with Yaesu,
>Icom or Kenwood. The Alinco falls in the same class as the Radio Shack
>Ham equipment, re: not worth your time. They remind me of the old Ford
>addage, "Fix Or Repair Daily". I have seen more Alinco and R/S
>equipment spending more time being repaired than used.
>73
>N0EVG

I don't believe that's a well founded opinion. I've owned, or repaired
for others, most of the equipment on the market. My experience with
Alinco has been very positive. So positive in fact that I currently
own and use two of them in my trucks (a 570 and a 590). In my experience,
there are only two brands of VHF+ equipment that I'd avoid like the plague.
Topping that list by a wide margin is Kenwood, a distant second is Azden.
Everybody else makes pretty reliable radios with fairly decent performance.
(Now understand that everybody produces a lemon from time to time, but only
those two manufacturers seem to be able to do it consistently, model after
model, year after year.)

There also seems a remarkable amount of Radio Shack bashing on this group,
and for the HTX-202, I believe it is mostly unwarranted. I'd place that
radio much closer to Icom than to Kenwood in quality. (And that shouldn't
be surprising considering that the IC-02AT was the model which the HTX-202
designers were most closely emulating.) Some of RS's other radios more
closely resemble CBs in quality (though that's still a step above Kenwood),
but the HTX-202 is a darn rugged and reliable HT with the *best* IMD
resistance of any HT currently on the amateur market.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:19 1996
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From: [e-mail](Anthony Severdia)
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Subject: WTB:   Collins AM Tx, circa '50s,  REPOST-expanded
Date: 20 Jul 1996 21:36:15 GMT
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SERIOUS WANT!
------------

    Collins 30K1 -  30K5 .  These are AM Tx only rigs, 4-125 final
modulated by a pair of 75THs.  Rack mounted.  Must be in restorable
shape.

    Will also consider Collins 32V1 or 32V? or close equivalent
AM rigs of the '49-early '50s period, if need be.

    Any possible leads are also be appreciated.  Thanks.

    Reply here or by e-mail: [e-mail]

    -=Tony=-    W6ANV   San Francisco, CA




From [e-mail] Sat Jul 27 19:27:20 1996
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From: [e-mail](Stephen McGreevy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Yukon Territory VLF and Ham (DX)expedition
Date: 27 Jul 1996 16:39:32 GMT
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Greeetings,

I'm planning a trip up to the Yukon territory (and possibly Alaska)
scheduled for the middle-late August and possibly into mid-September.
the main purpose of this trip is to record more 'sounds' of the
aurora-borealis using my "Natural Radio" VLF receivers in the 400 hz -
11 khz spectrum (see http://www.netcom.com/~spmcgrvy/)

I also am taking along a CW rig (30 watts max) to work many hams and
add more Yukon catches to their QSL collections!  I would be VERY
interested in joining other ham(s) who might be in the area in their
campers and RV's (etc.) and for a few days, a week, or whatever,
collaborate in a sorf of "DXpedition" up there and we could work the
world. It might be quite fun!

Please e-mail me at: [e-mail]

73,

Stephen McGreevy, N6NKS


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JEFF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2950 METER ?
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                I have a RCI 2950 that I use for local rag chews on 10
meters.
I would like to know if anyone has ever attempted to hook up a
regular S-Meter to this radio. The factory " Bars" are totally
obnoxious to say it politely. Can anyone point me in the right
direction or have any of you done this before? Any input would
be muchly appreciated.

          Thanks !                 Jeff       VE7 GMX


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:21 1996
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From: David Kelly <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: AEA PK-88 bypass caps
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 10:04:52 -0500
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To: RichK <[e-mail]>

RichK wrote:
>
> I have a PK-88 which recently started shorting chip bypass capacitors. I
> have replaced 3 so far. Two were dead shorts and one was around 40 ohms.
> The 7805 regulator is 4.98 volts. The unit is about 4 years old. Anyone
> else have this problem? This seems like a generic problem and I will
> probably replace all of them as a matter of course.

I have a seen this happen in either an AEA PK-80 or a Paccomm TNC-200 (an
exact TNC-2 clone). Forgot which it was. One had shorting 0.1 uF bypass
caps, the other had the tantalum cap in the BBRAM circuit installed
backwards.

After replacing 5 or 6 bypass caps, some with DC resistance as low as 50
ohms, the TNC was working again but pulling about 1A of current (it wasn't
CMOS). I wasn't much in the mood to replace 40 bypass caps at the time.

--
David Kelly N4HHE, [e-mail] (wk), [e-mail] (hm)
=====================================================================
The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:21 1996
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From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ANYONE KNOW ARKANSAS FM RPT FREQ'S?
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 21:23:05 -0700
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Someone wrote:
>
> >>Does anyone know where the state listing of Arkansas FM Repeaters
> >>can be found?  Drop me a note.

Go to the ARTSCI page at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~artsci/

Excellent page there.

73
Rod


--
Hark for I have hurled my words to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus??
..... AC6V


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: anyone know where to find output "2sc1307"
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[e-mail] (The Man in the Bog) wrote:

If it is an RF transistor, cal RF Parts at 1-800-RF-PARTS

Steve
WB7PSD




From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:26 1996
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From: Graham Cebulskie KB8RDM <kb8rdm@[129.137.102.71]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARES/NTS/RACES with just an HT?
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:06:18 -0400
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On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Rick Miller wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I'm just getting back into the hobby, but don't have a lot of
> "mad-money" to put into it.  So I'll likely only have a 2-meter
> HT for quite some time.  Anyway, I think I'd like to get involved
> in ARES or NTS from the descriptions I've read on the ARRL web
> page but I'm wondering whether I'll be of much use with just a
> 5-watt, 2-meter HT.
>
> I'm also wondering what kind of time commitment would be expected.
> Unfortunately, I don't have a lot to put into it... but I'd still
> like to get involved in something that would make the hobby not
> only fun, but *useful* as well.
>
> Rick Miller, KB9OBN
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Raportisto demandis de Mahatma Gandhi, "Sr-o. Gandhi, kio vi pensas pri
> Okcidenta Civilizacio?"  Li respondis, "Mi pensas ke gxi estus bona ideo."
>
>
>

I have been involved with ARES/RACES and NTS for a couple of years now
and all I have is a borrowed 2m/70cm HT!  Look for a local 2m traffic net
in your area.  If you need help try looking in the net directory at:

ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/arrl/infoserv/fsd/netdir95.txt

The time you commit to ARES/RACES/NTS is entirely up to you.  The local
traffic net here in Cincinnati, OH meets nightly on 2m.  This is the
usual way that NTS is set up.  From a local net, the traffic flows in/out
of the are through a section net; here the Ohio Single Sideband Net.  I
am involved with the Hamilton County Amateur Radio Public Service Corps.
If you are not familiar with ARPSC it is an organization that supports
ARES and RACES.  I am the HC ARPSC Training Net manager hwich meets
weekly.  If you have any questions feel free to e-mail me at the
address below, YOU MAY HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE REPLY ADDRESS IN THE HEADER!

73 de

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/ President                            Packet:  KB8RDM@W8YX.#CIN.OH.USA.NA /
/ OCAS Amateur Radio Association        Voice:  145.450- MHz               /
/ Editor:  The Repeater                 WWW:  http://129.137.102.71/~kb8rdm/
/ Electrical Engineering Technology    Creating a high public visibility   /
/ OMI College of Applied Science       of Amateur Radio and having a great /
/ University of Cincinnati             time with the hobby!                /
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From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:27 1996
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From: Rick Horwitz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Arizona Hams get a bad rap on Nightline
Date: 29 Jul 1996 09:36:06 -0700
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I just read the transcript from a recent Nightline report and thought I
would pass on this excerpt. The program aired July 10, 1996. I believe
Mr. Ross doesn't know the difference between Ham Radio and Shortwave.
                                        Rick Horwitz

[Rick Ross]:

Well, I'd like to think, Ted, that they erred on the side of caution,
because I know these groups here in Arizona, and they're very volatile,
very delusional about their conspiracy theories, and it could be almost
anything, Ted, that could set them off, into the idea that the
government is coming against them, whether it's some type of mythology
about black helicopters, or, I've even heard conspiracy theories about
the U.S.S. Liberty, and the government deliberately setting that ship up
for attack by Israel. One hears these conspiracy theories regularly,
here in Arizona, on our ham radio stations, and I think that this has
made a very volatile mix with these groups.


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Arizona Hams get a bad rap on Nightline
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Alan Crosswell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>What about HF?  VHF and UHF are a very small part of the amateur
>bands.  There are a lot of people on HF.

You've got that backwards, Alan. The HF/MF ham bands make up less
than 3% of the amateur spectrum on or below the 23 cm band.

KH2PZ


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:29 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ARL message meanings? (ARL 69)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Swamp-Castle Press, Boston
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 22:28:52 GMT
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Dave Johnson  <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I have a VERY old handbook and ARRL Operating Manual, and they do not
> list ARL Sixty Nine

This one is a new proposal from one of the NTS head honchos, so it's
only on the latest lists, such as
        ftp://ve7tcp.ampr.org/arrl/infoserv/fsd/radiogrm.txt
which I found via my local ARRL section's homepage's NTS page:
        http://www.temples.com/arrl/emafield/nts.html

SIXTY NINE   Welcome to the _______.  We are glad to have
             you with us and hope you will enjoy the fun
             and fellowship of the organization.

73,
Bill Ricker  N1VUX  [e-mail]  "The freedom of the press belongs
http://world.std.com/~wdr               to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling
[e-mail] (temporary?)    [e-mail]

--
Bill Ricker  N1VUX  [e-mail]  "The freedom of the press belongs
http://world.std.com/~wdr               to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:30 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best way to learn high-speed code?
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James W. Barr ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I have enjoyed being a Technician for several years, and am interested in
: upgrading.  My problem is that I would like to "go all the way" as far as
: learning the code -- like learning the code at 20 to 25 wpm.  I have
: heard that if you learn code at 5wpm, that getting past 13wpm is a real
: barrier.  For higher speeds, you basically have to learn it over.  Is this
: true?

I don't think this is true. I think it is a myth.

: I have also heard that a good way to learn high-speed code is to listen to
: high-speed tapes and pick out the letters you can pick out and do this
: over and over until you learn the code.

This might work, but it sounds really boring to me. Since a big
"enemy" of morse learning is that it can be very boring, I would
avoid this method.

: Basically, I want to learn the code, and I want to upgrade as high as I
: can go, but I really don't want to waste my time learning and re-learning
: at different speeds.  If I actually learn the code at higher speeds, how
: will it affect my comprehension at lower speeds?

The only problem I have with slow code is that it is well slow.
When I operate at low speeds, I sometimes read
a magazine article at the same time to keep occupied. YMMV.

One of the problems with answering your question, is that the right
answer is nobody knows. There have been very few good studies of morse
code learning. One of the few things that has been tested with one
small study is whether Farnsworth spacing is helpful. The result was
that when two groups during world war two were taught, with one
using Farnsworth spacing and the other standard spacing, the two group's
performance was statistically indistinguishable (with the standard
spacing group being slightly better). However, most hams take on faith that
Farnworth will help. My own experience teaching my wife and daughter
morse was that while Farnsworth spacing may help form the character
sound better it gave them a lot of time before the next letter to
repeat in their heads -- "di-dah, di-dah, oh that's A". Standard
spacing forces you to listen to the next character while you are
deciphering the current one.

The Koch method where you learn two characters at 20 wpm and then add
one character at a time once you get below a 10 percent or so error
rate has been reported to be good, but has not been studied very well.
You might try it.

One thing that matters is whether you want to just pass the extra test,
or if you want to operate high speed cw (I would say that high speed cw
is around 35-40 wpm and up). If you just want to pass the extra test,
then you really only need to be able to copy 18 wpm or so with about 80
percent accuracy if you are a good test taker. I would recommend
a VE team that uses multiple choice tests.

If you want to learn to operate high speed cw, then I would recommend
copying in your head as much as possible and as soon as possible.  Get
on the air. For off air practice try Tree N6TR's contest logger (there
is a public domain version see http://www.qth.com/tr ) which has a simple
simulator which you may find more interesting than listening to code
tapes. The "stations" will gladly repeat their call signs forever
unlike real ops :-). Above 30 wpm, this program still sends excellent
cw, unlike supermorse which sends poor cw above about 30 wpm. Morse
academy sends decent cw, but not as good as Tree's program.

73 Kevin [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:32 1996
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From: "John L. Broughton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Best way to learn high-speed code?
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:19:30 -0700
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Cecil Moore wrote:
>
> James W. Barr wrote:
> > If I actually learn the code at higher speeds, how
> > will it affect my comprehension at lower speeds?
>
> Hi James, If I were you, I would learn the code at 20wpm character
> timing and 5wpm character spacing. That way, you hear each character
> just as it sounds at 20wpm but have time to learn it at a slower
> character speed. It's called Farnsworth timing and SuperMorse will
> do it.
>
> 73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)

This is excellent advice.  The reason is that as the speed of the character
spacing increased, the sound changes.  This results in making you have to
do two things: 1) copy code faster 2) learn the 'new' sound of each character.

A couple of other pieces of advice.

  1. When you are studying for a particular speed, say 13wpm, practice trying
     to copy 15wpm and then 13.  You may miss lots of characters at 15, but
     when you copy 13 it will sound slower.  This helps make up for any "nervo
usness'
     factor when you take your test.  For 20wpm, practice by first copying
     25.  That is what I did for my extra class license.  Even though I never
     copied a high percentage at 25, it made 20 sound slower than it really is
.

  2. Copy coded groups of characters, not clear text unless you are always cop
ying
     different clear text.  Why?  Because you will actually remember the clear
 text
     and will be copying what you remember, not the actual code being sent.

This advice comes from personal experience of upgrading, past experience of te
aching
code classes by myself and other members of my amateur radio club.  As a forme
r morse
code interceptor in the U.S. Army Security Agency many, many years ago, I can
relate
to the struggle of learning code: 6 months of school copying code most all day
.  We had
a difficult transition to make.  Up to 10wpm, we copied with a pencil and then
 moved
to a mill (typewriter with only upper case characters) and had to learn to rec
ognize
the different sounds of the characters as the speed increased.  But, when I go
t my
ham license in 1976, the code came back very readily.  When I was in the army,
 I was
copying about 45wpm on the net I was assigned to (those Russians could send fa
st
code).  But, as the coping became a reflex (one ear hears A, finger types A, o
ther ead
and most of brain listening to Radio Luxembourg play the top 40 hits [we had t
wo
receivers, one we used for our assigned net, the other for listening to music
until
the sergeant came by and twisted the knob]), it was never a conscious effort a
nd I had
to spend 2 or 3 weeks practicing for 20wpm for my extra.  Now, I only use voic
e.

Good luck!

--
======================================================================
John L. Broughton      [e-mail]      http://www.mcs.net/~wb9vgj/
======================================================================


--
======================================================================
John L. Broughton      [e-mail]      http://www.mcs.net/~wb9vgj/
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From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:36 1996
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From: "John L. Broughton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Best way to learn high-speed code?
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 12:45:29 -0700
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Cecil Moore wrote:
>
> James W. Barr wrote:
> > If I actually learn the code at higher speeds, how
> > will it affect my comprehension at lower speeds?
>
> Hi James, If I were you, I would learn the code at 20wpm character
> timing and 5wpm character spacing. That way, you hear each character
> just as it sounds at 20wpm but have time to learn it at a slower
> character speed. It's called Farnsworth timing and SuperMorse will
> do it.
>
> 73, Cecil, W6RCA, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)

This is excellent advice.  The reason is that as the speed of the character
spacing increased, the sound changes.  This results in making you have to
do two things: 1) copy code faster 2) learn the 'new' sound of each character.

A couple of other pieces of advice.

  1. When you are studying for a particular speed, say 13wpm, practice trying
     to copy 15wpm and then 13.  You may miss lots of characters at 15, but
     when you copy 13 it will sound slower.  This helps make up for any "nervo
usness'
     factor when you take your test.  For 20wpm, practice by first copying
     25.  That is what I did for my extra class license.  Even though I never
     copied a high percentage at 25, it made 20 sound slower than it really is
.

  2. Copy coded groups of characters, not clear text unless you are always cop
ying
     different clear text.  Why?  Because you will actually remember the clear
 text
     and will be copying what you remember, not the actual code being sent.

This advice comes from personal experience of upgrading, past experience of te
aching
code classes by myself and other members of my amateur radio club.  As a forme
r morse
code interceptor in the U.S. Army Security Agency many, many years ago, I can
relate
to the struggle of learning code: 6 months of school copying code most all day
.  We had
a difficult transition to make.  Up to 10wpm, we copied with a pencil and then
 moved
to a mill (typewriter with only upper case characters) and had to learn to rec
ognize
the different sounds of the characters as the speed increased.  But, when I go
t my
ham license in 1976, the code came back very readily.  When I was in the army,
 I was
copying about 45wpm on the net I was assigned to (those Russians could send fa
st
code).  But, as the coping became a reflex (one ear hears A, finger types A, o
ther ead
and most of brain listening to Radio Luxembourg play the top 40 hits [we had t
wo
receivers, one we used for our assigned net, the other for listening to music
until
the sergeant came by and twisted the knob]), it was never a conscious effort a
nd I had
to spend 2 or 3 weeks practicing for 20wpm for my extra.  Now, I only use voic
e.

Good luck!

--
======================================================================
John L. Broughton      [e-mail]      http://www.mcs.net/~wb9vgj/
======================================================================




From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: boatanchors
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Ohrstal Fembrock ([e-mail]) wrote:
: When can we expect to see rec.radio.amateur.boatanchor spring to life?

If you check news.groups, you'll find that the RFD is in progress.

We'll be sure the word gets out, when it's time to vote.

73 de Jim - KF6CR



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CCTN Net report for 7/21
Date: 28 Jul 96 17:37:44 GMT
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Hi Mike:

I am wondering about something.  Last Sunday (7/21), just as I was asking
for the familiar "Does anyone need to use the Colorado Connection before
we begin tonight's session of the Central Colorado Traffic Net??", which
is the same as asking for emergency or priority traffic.

During that call, N0DWT announced he was stranded out on the highway and
was requesting assistance from the Breckenridge Area.  He was unable to
raise anyone from there, but we nonetheless called the State Patrol so he
could get SOMETHING resembling assistance, which I felt we were able to
handle during the course of the net since it wasn't a life threatening
situation (which we, for the most part, did)

As a result of this, it took about 10 minutes *BEFORE* I was able to
proceed on with the rest of the net.  I dispensed with the normal
"mumbo-jumbo" introduction and proceeded onward with the net at
approximately 7:40 p.m.

George, N0ULG, was not able to check in for some reason.  When I submitted
my net report to George, I included an ops note detailing the discrepancy
between the time of the net time and the actual time the system was in net
operations (which is the above scenario I put under the category of PRIORITY
traffic).

My question to you is does the above situation, described as priority
traffic, qualify as being the equivelant of a formal NTS message being
handled AND where do we classify such traffic in our net reports??

I look forward to your reply!!  :-)

Sincerely,

Patrick Cook, KB0OXD
Central Colorado Traffic Net NCS

Internet:  [e-mail]
AMPRnet:   [e-mail]
AX.25:     KB0OXD @ N0IAK.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM

P.S.:  I wasn't going to send this to the newsgroup initially, but after
       thinking about it, I think we could get some REAL dialogue going
       on this for the benefit of others, IMHO....  :-)



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:39 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code above 11wpm
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 12:08:02 GMT
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In article <4tk65k$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail](Scott) "Scott" writes:

> I just got my Novice licence and am going for the Tech + on August 3rd.  I
> was planning on taking the General Class 13wpm code test the same day and
> the theory the next month, but it seems that i've been practicing my code
> for weeks and I just can't seem to get above 11wpm.
>
> Any tips?

My tip is to relax and take the test.  I believe that anyone who can
get fairly solid copy at 11 wpm can easily pass the multiple guess 13
wpm quiz.  So just go for it and don't fret or lose sleep worrying
about what speed you think you can copy.  The time to get your speed
up is AFTER you get the General ticket.

Good luck.  Let us know how you made out.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clinton Peebles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Crazy autopatch calls--was Re: Its OK to order a pizza on 2m auto
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 13:29:00 GMT
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SE>home. She responded, "Are we going to have sex tonight? If so you have to

HA!  That's a good one.  We had a guy call home and ask what color
toilet paper to get.
---
 ■ QMPro 1.53 ■ The dog ate my .REP packet.


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:41 1996
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From: Jake Brodsky <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DF gear for a repeater (was VORTAC, RADAR)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:04:08 -0700
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Jeff King wrote:
>
> And if you put similar setups at the remote reciever sites, you could
> pinpoint the approximate position. Sounds like a project, aye?
>

You know, this isn't as bad as it sounds.  I've seen DF gear for marine
use.  A little indicator lights up to show you what relative bearing the
signal's coming from.  One could build something like that at each
receiver site.  You could latch it and then shoot that information back
when it gets polled by the repeater.  Nah, too complicated...

73,

Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
Amateur Radio Station AB3A
"Beware of the massive impossible!"


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:42 1996
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From: Jim S <[e-mail] (Jim S)>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Duplex on CB?  CB Repeaters?
Date: 31 Jul 1996 17:28:23 GMT
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 On 30 Jul 1996, Jim S wrote:
 > TMF decoder
 > Costas, KE6SYN wrote> (snip..snip).................... I certainly
 > > hope that the manufacturers start including this feature in their
 > > radios.
 > >
 >
 > Sounds like you had fun making it work, but I hope I still have a
 > choice not to buy it.... I have another question though... is it
 > legal to remotely operate your CB... as for example the remote
 > activated handshake that you speak about??


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Effects of RF on Vehicle's Computer
Date: 30 Jul 1996 12:14:58 GMT
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>BTW, if you look at the grand am make sure its not the quad 4.  they've
had >major MAJOR problems with the head gasket.  I had an 89 that went
through >6 head gaskets and Pontiac said it was my
>problem cause "I DROVE THE CAR TO MUCH!!!!!".

The Quad-4 was a good idea that had way too many mechanical bugs in it.
I'd never touch one!  Right now, I'm driving an '87 Buick Somerset, which
is a Grand Am with a Buick nameplate on it.  But I have the standard
Pontiac 2.5L engine and I haven't had any problems.

"Drove the car too much", huh?  That's a new one!


>I'd go with the Saturn myself

I like what I'm seeing from Saturn, especially the new '97 Sport Coupes.


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump causing noise?
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:52:04 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary
 Coffman) writes:

>The pump is activated by the ECC (in response to the fuel pressure
>sensor and the ignition switch), but that's just an output of the
>ECC.

It also used a distributor reference signal. After an allotted amount of time
(after the rack is pressurized), the pump will shut down if it doesnt see that
the engine is running, regardless of pressure at that point.

This is done so that in an accident that severs the fuel line, and the driver
cannot, or does not turn the ignition off, the pump will stop pumping.



Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Siegfried Bobek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: EUROCOM/STANDARD E10 TRANSCEIVER
Date: 31 Jul 96 08:53:39 GMT
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Hello!
In Austria/Europe, I have bought the UHF-FM-TANSCEIVER EUROCOM E10,
which is manufactured by STANDARD and wich is similar to STANDARDs
C108. Does anyone know, how I can extend the frequency-range (433.055-
434.785 MHz) of the Eurocom E10 (or the Standard C108).
Is it possible to get more power-output of the Eurocom E10?
Greetings from Austria, Sigi.        [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:46 1996
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From: "Mark L. Bary" <[e-mail]>
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Steve,

Try rec.radio.swap

Mark


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Free Ham Test Simulators + CW
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From: Jake Brodsky <[e-mail]>
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1) You can use a ham radio (or anything else) in a private aircraft
at the discretion of the pilot-in-command (PIC).  Generally for VFR
flights this is not a problem.  For IFR flights the PIC will probably
ask you to shut down while conducting the instrument approach (I would).

2) Gell Cell batteries are widely available still.  Sonnenshine (sp?)
of Germany makes the best ones I know of on the market.  They will
deteriorate after about three years of trickle charge.  They are not
cheap.

3) Any lead acid or Gell Cell has a pretty low internal resistance and
will heat up pretty badly if shorted.  That is the hazard with most
battery packs.  Be careful.

4) Private airplanes have Lead Acid batteries for starting the engine.
They are vented, but they will not leak if hit by turbulence or unusual
attitudes.

73,
Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
Amateur Radio Station AB3A
"Beware of the massive impossible!"


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:46:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff DeMarco)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Radio in Phenomenon
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 17:11:49 GMT
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Just saw Phenomenon - a major character is a ham: WB6QLF (Hows about that for
a call?!)  Has some nice equipment, and a few QSL's, including A45NZ (I
think.)  He sends CW, and it is actually what they say it is!  Pretty decent
shack.  Problems:

He calls CQ in a way that is really a broadcast to Diana Ross (he wishes...)

He has no ear for digital transmissions, cuz he calls an FSK/AFSK signal morse

code - John Travolta of course can decipher it on the fly, and they respond in

CW.

Turns out said signal is super secret gov stuff - so why is it being sent in
the middle of the voice section of a ham band?

Nevertheless, fairly favorable treatment for our hobby.

*************************************************
Jeff DeMarco                               WB6KUW
Riverside, CA
[e-mail]                 http://www.pe.net/~jmd
"I am not a number, I am an alphanumeric string!"


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Subject: Ham Web Page
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http://www.seanet.com/~bobjr/ham.htm

Interesting links and a growing list of items for sale.

73's
KB7BBC



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From: [e-mail] (BBWB)
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Subject: HTX-202 replacement battery?
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 04:38:42 GMT
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I know there is an ICOM replacement battery with a larger capacity,
does anyone know what the ICOM battery number is for the HTX-202?
Thanks!
Bud
omne ignotum pro magnifico


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On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 08:32:07 -0400, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Strange how you supported that farm animal Dave Bushlong.
>You are known by the friends you keep.


   Yes, but Burt - at least some of us HAVE friends.  Try it - you may
actually find that your life could actually develop some meaning.

- Rich


--
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From: "Dale (\"Squeak\") Porray, AD7K" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: IC-281H Help Please!
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 22:00:21 -0700
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> 1) The manual leads me to believe that Tone Squelch is included in the US
> version.  I can ENcode PL tones, but the rig  won't DEcode them (I.E. I
> can't get ' T SQ ' to appear by following the directions).

The UT-85 "Tone Squelch Unit" is the option needed to decode CTCSS ("P.L.") to
nes
with this radio.

73, and good luck!

"Squeak" Porray, AD7K
Manager, Amateur Electronic Supply/Las Vegas


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Hammock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Its OK to order pizza on
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:11:00 GMT
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On 07-17-96 12:43, [e-mail] (CHA was talking to ALL
 about Its OK to order pizza on:

C(>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
C(>From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
C(>Subject: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
C(>Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest

C(>I was going over the advanced question pool and ran across A1E05
C(>(page 37 in RS book). The note specifically states its OK to
C(>order pizza on amateur bands. I could have sworn the exact
C(>opposite was in the no-code tech question pool (RS book).

C(>Anybody seen the no-code tech question that disputes this?
C(>(I gave my no-code tech book away sometime ago)

C(>Anyway, here is A1E05:

C(>Q: Whick communication is NOT a prohibited transmission in the
C(>Amateur Service?

C(>A: Calling a commercial tow truck service for a breakdown on the highwa

C(>Note: Calling a business to make a hotel reservation, calling to order
C(>pizza, or calling a tow truck is PERFECTLY LEGAL on the ham bands.

C(>If I understand this, any 2m autopatch call is OK as long as the
C(>Ham can not make money from it, but its OK to make a call to
C(>spend money at a business.

The way I had it explained to me that it was okay if neither you, or your
employer profited by it. So you can't call the lumber yard for more two-bys
fro the construction site, but you cann call out for lunch for the guys.

73


Jim KI0DN
---
 * PW * How do you put 500 bugs in a matchbox? Ask Microsoft.


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KD1YV ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Mike Stansberry wrote:
: >
: >
: > How could a person possibly benefit from notifying their boss they
: > were going to be late (and perhaps not getting fired for not letting
: > the boss know)?
: >
: > Mike, K0TER

: I think that you have answered your own question.  "Not getting fired" const
itutes a
: pecuniary interest.  If one does not get fired, then presumably one continue
s to get
: paid.

Can't anyone recognize sarcasm without the poster putting in a
<sarcasm ON> note?  O.K.  I'm really not a very good writer and probably
didn't get it sarcastic enough.  But I tried.

Mike, K0TER


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
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In article <4t5rpg$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Horak) write
s:
>In <[e-mail]> Will Flor <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>> how about to say they will be late?
>
>>I think that's a pretty clear-cut Part 97 violation.
>
>How could your business possibly benefit from you being late??  ;-)  ;-)
>
>David N5OFQ

Your "business" is remaining employed so that you keep getting a
pay check. If your employer demands that you notify him if you're
going to be late, and you use amateur radio, you've advanced your
personal pecuniary interest, and that's a violation of Part 97.113(3).

It is Ok to advance the pecuniary interest of an unrelated business,
such as when you call a pizza parlor to order a pizza, but the rules
don't let you use amateur radio to advance your *own* pecuniary interest,
and calling in late, or sick, or to pick up messages, or to dispatch
a company truck, etc, etc are examples where you advance your own
pecuniary interest in remaining employed by doing business communications
via amateur radio.

A local amateur who is self-employed calls his wife about every
30 minutes during the day via patch. They always appear to talk
about household and family matters, but it is really a code that
they have to pass business information. They are engaged in at
least a double violation. Not only are they advancing their business
interests, but they are also illegally using a code to obscure
meaning. They've been getting away with it for years, right
under the FCC's nose (within a stone's throw of the Powder Springs
monitoring station). With that post now abandoned, they have even
less to worry about. But it is still a violation. They know it,
and those of us who've listened to it for years know it too.

That sort of willfull abuse is one reason there's no patch
on my repeater. The other reason is that we aren't supposed
to regularly use amateur radio in lieu of other available
radio services directly intended to provide that sort of
communications. Since cellular service is pervasively available
in most areas served by phone patch equipped repeaters, most
non-emergency uses of phone patches appear to now violate
97.113(5).

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
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From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:04 1996
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From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:15:13 -0500
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Bruce Burke wrote:
>
> Will Flor wrote:
> >
> > steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Chris Boone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As a rptr trustee, I would not allow anyone to call their place of
> > > > business......
> > > >
> > > > 73
> > > > Chris
> > > > WB5ITT
> > >
> > > how about to say they will be late?
> >
> > I think that's a pretty clear-cut Part 97 violation.
> >
> > 73 de KB9JTT
>
> Hmmmmmm, what if I wanted to invite an associate to lunch with me?
>
> How is that a violation???
>
> 73,
>
> Bruce, WB4YUC

Does it further the "pecuniary interest" of you or you
employer?  If so, then it's a violation.  Otherwise, no.

73 de KB9JTT


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Mike Stansberry wrote:
>
> KD1YV ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Mike Stansberry wrote:
> : >
> : >
> : > How could a person possibly benefit from notifying their boss they
> : > were going to be late (and perhaps not getting fired for not letting
> : > the boss know)?
> : >
> : > Mike, K0TER
>
> : I think that you have answered your own question.  "Not getting fired" con
stitutes a
> : pecuniary interest.  If one does not get fired, then presumably one contin
ues to get
> : paid.
>
> Can't anyone recognize sarcasm without the poster putting in a
> <sarcasm ON> note?  O.K.  I'm really not a very good writer and probably
> didn't get it sarcastic enough.  But I tried.
>
> Mike, K0TER

Mike,

Sorry, no, I did not recognize the sarcasm.  One thing that I learned many yea
rs ago is
that veiled sarcasm does not transmit well over the written word.  I guess tha
t you need
to hit me over the head with a two-by-four to get my attention first :-)

73 de Jim


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From: Drew Loker <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Its OK to order pizza on 2m autopatch
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 15:28:21 +0100
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>We have a few people on one of our best 70 cm repeaters who are on it
constantly, sometimes 10-15 times a day.  It is obvious that they are
trying to avoid phone charges, because two of the parties are brother
and
sister.  One wonders if the've ever heard of a telephone, but there's no
doubt what they are doing.<
<

I disagree with that being a problem, at least to some degree. My wife
and I both are licensed, and both carry HTs. Our motiff for becoming
HAMS was so that we could stay in touch. What you are suggesting is that
we should both have cell phones. Now I will qualify my first statement.
We do not just sit on the repeaters yik yaking about stuff that we can
talk about later, or should be discussed on a phone, etc. What we do use
the repeaters for is to keep in touch when we are out of simplex range.
I have set up a nice base station and our simplex range is quite far
when one of us is at home. I frequently chat with other hams in the
area, attend club meetings when possible, pay my club dues, and
participate with the emergency net when possible. However, my wife does
not. SHe has no interest whatsoever in the meetings, or talking with
other HAMs.

In my opinion, our conversations are just as legit as any of the other
wastefull commmunications that I hear some of the people talk about. In
our area, there are MANY husband and wife HAMs, and most of the traffic
between these is for "keeping" in touch. Aside from their traffic, there
is frequently people yik yaking about stuff of no relevance.

ANyway, the point is, the argument that two people shoudl have cell
phones, and that they must be avoiding phone charges is ridiculous. That
mentality suggests that the only communications that are acceptable on
HAM is nothing; except tech talk, emergency or the weather or other hee
hawing about nothing.

That's my 2 cents for what it's worth.

Drew
--
Communication Graphics & Yearbook Instructor
Central Senior HS
88 Jaguar Dr, Beaumont, TX 77702 [phone] x566, 835-0923 (fax)

Drew Loker - KC5QBP, [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 28 Jul 1996 00:32:35 GMT
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>>While I'm not in any way defending the activities of a repeater jammer,

>>threatening to file frivilous litigation is not the answer.
>
>This isn't frivilous, no more frivilous than the damage suits the some
>people have probably sought against you for pinning their coax.



Did I ever say that I personally pinned anybody's coax?  Do you happen to
have any proof or evidence to back up your above statement?

Speaking of litigation...


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 27 Jul 1996 14:47:17 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>,
        Alan Kline  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Perhaps the frequencies are publicly owned, but the REPEATERS are, in a
>vast majority of cases, PRIVATELY owned, and are available to the general
>amateur public through the graciousness and public-spirited attitude of
>their owners.  This is a privlege, not a right!

Even repeater frequencies are, in a sense, privately owned. While it is
true that Part 97 indicates that nobody "owns" a frequency, the FCC
often relies on something called "good amateur practice". It is viewed
as *not* being good amateur practice to work simplex on the input or
output of a repeater frequency.

So, if you choose to operate on the input/output of a repeater, that's
fine. As long as your intent is not to deprive others of the use of
said repeater. Not being welcome on a repeater and choosing to operate
on the repeater's input/output frequency is equivalent to malicious
interference, and, more appropriately, not "good amateur practice".

MD
--
--  Who needs looks when you've got taste?
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


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From: [e-mail](Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 30 Jul 1996 05:13:29 GMT
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On Jul 30, 1996 01:11:38 in article <Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER>,
'[e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)' wrote:


>Richard Paul Merrell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Do not like the jamming just change the channel or go for what I do
>>turn the damn thing off.
>
>This reminds me of the neighbors who closed their windows to shut out
>the screams of a young woman being stabbed.
>
>Rich, if you just turn off your rig to shut out the jamming, someday
>there won't be a usable "channel" left. Don't hide your head in the
>sand and ignore the problem; take active steps to eliminate the
>illegal operators. Build yourself a DF antenna and have fun tracking
>the illegals down.
>KH2PZ

Jammers drive me crazy.  I listen to 2mtrs and It is sick.  I'm new to the
hobby, just got my licence, how do you track a Jammer?

Scott, KF6FCN


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: 30 Jul 1996 16:48:39 -0400
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In article <4tecf3$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>While I'm not in any way defending the activities of a repeater jammer,
>
>>>threatening to file frivilous litigation is not the answer.
>>
>>This isn't frivilous, no more frivilous than the damage suits the some
>>people have probably sought against you for pinning their coax.
>
>
>
>Did I ever say that I personally pinned anybody's coax?  Do you happen to
>have any proof or evidence to back up your above statement?
>
>Speaking of litigation...
>
>

All I'm saying Drew is that it would be no more frivilous. Notice I said
"probably".

Tony

>


--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
== [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:14 1996
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From: KD1YV <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: JAMMERS ON 2 METER
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:11:43 -0300
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Dana Myers wrote:
{deletia}
> However, when you transmit information more than one frequency
> is involved.  Every signal occupies some amount of bandwidth;
> even CW occupies bandwidth like any other AM signal.  A look in
> my Webster's dictionary shows that the salient definition of
> 'channel' is 'a narrow band of frequencies used by a radio transmitter'.{del
etia}

Well, if you think of a channel as tuning by a discrete step in frequency, as
opposed to infinite variability, then virtually all modern HF rigs are also
"channelized."  True, the steps may be only 1 or 10 Hz each, but they are
steps, nonetheless.

I love my coal-fired Hallicrafters, which _does_ tune frequencies :-)

73 de Jim, KD1YV


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From: Patrick Cook <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Kids _are_ interested in ham radio.
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 11:08:37 -0600
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To: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
cc: fluffy rabbit <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Burt Fisher wrote:

> fluffy rabbit wrote:
>
> > Yes I do have a boyfriend, as a matter of fact.  Tom, N0YYW, and he's not
a
> > social decrepit like some hams are.  And he's from my generation too--not
> > a 40 year old ham fart who's wife got a clue and left him.  We both sleep
> > in the same bed, together, WITH our HTS. It's pretty kinky, Jim, you
> > should try it some time.
>
> Where do you put the rubber ducky?

This may be an old post but GET YOUR HEAD OF THE GUTTER, Burt!!!!  :(

> You are the one that said bite me.

Excuse me?????  Is this the SAME rec.radio.amateur.misc that I've been
reading for over a year????  I didn't know there was *another*
rec.radio.amateur.misc newsgroup!!!  Looks as though I'll have to get my
ISP to subscribe to it......

Patrick Cook, KB0OXD
Denver, CO
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (r)
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The latest Qsl Info File is now available. Looking for a qsl manager
from the past to the present look no further. The latest file now
contains over 43,000 qsl managers or direct addresses. The best part
of this file is it is free. Check it out at www.coredcs.com/~mtw



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:19 1996
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From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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r wrote:
>
> The latest Qsl Info File is now available. Looking for a qsl manager
> from the past to the present look no further. The latest file now
> contains over 43,000 qsl managers or direct addresses. The best part
> of this file is it is free. Check it out at www.coredcs.com/~mtw

Sorry, it doesn't work...  maybe there is an error in the address?

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Learning CW-any pointers?
Date: 29 Jul 1996 01:44:32 -0700
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[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:

>>There are different schools of thought on how the code should be learned,
>>but I think every one agrees that code should be learned by SOUND. Learn
>>the sounds rather than the number of dots and dashes that constitute the
>>character. We can all recognize the rhythm of "Shave and a hair cut two
>>bits." whether the rhythm is slow or fast, because we recognize the
>>*sound*.

>Yes, and it is much easier to learn that rhythm, and the Morse letter
>rhythms, if sent *quickly*. After you've learned the sound pattern sent
>quickly, you will also be able to recognize it when it is slowed. But if
>you learn it slowed first, you'll have a hard time recognizing it when
>it is done quickly. This is why all the business about Farnsworth exists.
>It may not *really* be Morse, but it is the best way to *learn* Morse.

It's my mission in life to followup to Gary's postings in agreement
it seems :-)

What you say above hit on the head something I was trying to get at
in a previous followup in another thread. The *sound* of CW is
very akin to the *sound* of music. I don't think many of you could
specify the individual notes (or musical notation) for a good kickass
blues tune (let's pick Mustang Sally as an example). All of you would
recognize the overall tune, however. Now, if I was to sit down and
try to teach you how to play that song I would not concentrate on
teaching you the traditional blues scale in E. Instead, I would
show you some patterns you could invoke on the guitar neck that
would reproduce the sounds of the song. Once you had learned it
then (and only then) I might sit down and start explaining the
concept of scales, three cord progressions, etc.

If instead I sat down and tried to show you the MATH of playing the
blues, you would pick up that guitar and do severe damage to my
head with it.

Okay, analogies suck, and I'm the first to admit that. But just
before you discount my argument completely, dig out your key
and send this:

        BEST BENT WIRE TREE

See you at the blues 'fest :-)

--lyndon (can *you* imagine Stevie Ray Vaughn on 20m CW?)



--

Engage your brain before your mouth ...


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Learning CW-any pointers?
Date: 29 Jul 1996 02:02:38 -0700
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Thomas Foster <[e-mail]> writes:
>Gary, I respectfully disagree!  DISTINGUISHING a dit from a dah is not
>tantamount to COUNTING dits and dahs. When I copy code at 20 WPM, I cannot
>possibly count the individual dits and dahs, either consciously or
>subconsciously, yet I must distinguish them before the character is evident.

When you copy english at the normal speach rate do you distinguish
all the phenomes before contextualizing all the words? When reading
printed text do you identify the individual letters before contextualizing
the words?

Morse is no different. Yes, when I copy (okay, used to copy) at
30 WPM I *heard* the dits and dahs, but only in the same sense that
I hear the phenomes in human speach as they blur together into that
wonderfully incoherent mess that we call the english language.

For those of you who are interested in learning a bit more about
this business of information decoding (from other than us QRO
firebottle pundits) I highly recommend:

        The Language Instinct
        (How the Mind Creates Language)

        Steven Pinker

        ISBN 0-688-12141-1

        William Morrow and Co. (1994)

Pinker was one of Chomsky's notable students, although he did not
agree with his master on a number of points. This book provides a
fascinating look into language comprehension, written such that the
lay public can get a grasp on his thesis (read: even idiots like
me found it highly informative and  enjoyable reading).  Much of
what he talks about concerning symbol recognition and interpretation
directly pertains to copying morse.


--lyndon


--

Engage your brain before your mouth ...


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Learning CW-any pointers?
Date: 29 Jul 1996 02:06:31 -0700
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[e-mail] (Jim Kehler) writes:

>Unless you are going to apply for a job where you will be sending and
>receiving five letter code groups, I see no reason to worry about
>getting things down verbatim on paper.  I think you would be much
>better off to learn how to copy in your head, without a crutch, and
>just jot down the important things on paper, like you would do if you
>were taking  notes during a lecture.  I've worked a lot of hams on CW,
>but I can't remember any qso's that were important enuff that they had
>to be written word for word.

The problem is: passing the exam.

Until you have sone this (for all levels you want to achieve) you
*have* to be able to hardcopy in some manner.

Once the paperwork is out of the way, learn to copy in your
head, just as you do with everyday speech. Assuming that
copying on paper to pass the exams hasn't buggered that skill
beyond hope :-(

--lyndon


--

Engage your brain before your mouth ...


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:25 1996
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From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: License required for CB radio repair
Date: 30 Jul 1996 16:05:50 GMT
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[e-mail] (Wes Kranitz) wrote:
>In article <4sguve$[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] says...

>>>>What class commercial ticket is necessary to do CB radio repair? (no
>>>>flames re: CB pls)

>>Part 95, sub 95.424 it states:
>>
>>How do I have my CB station serviced?
>>
>>(a) You may adjust an antenna to your CB transmitter and make radio
>chec
>>ks.
>>(b) You are responsible for the proper operation of the station at all
>t
>>imes
>>and are expected to provide for observations, servicing and
>maintenance
>>as often as may be necessary to ensure proper operation. You must have
>>all internal repairs and adjustments to your CB transmitter made in
>>accordance with the Technical Regulations (see subpart E). The
>internal
>>repairs or internal adjustments should be performed by or under the
>>immediate supervision and responsibility of a person certified as
>techni
>>cally
>>qualified to perform transmitter maintenance and repair duties in the
>>private land mobile services and fixed services by an organization or
>>committee representative of users in those services.

>
>What it all means is that the technician must be certified by an
>organization representing his/her peers in the private land mobile
>services and fixed services. One such organization is NARTE (National
>Association of Radio and Telecommunications Engineers) from which I
>hold a 1st Class Engineering Cerification (NCE). Note that this is
>different then PE's (Professional Engineer's) which are state
>certified. However, both certification's have requirements that must be
>met inorder to use the title. In other words, the person has been
>recognized by some organization as being qualified.
>
>Does this make any Sense????

It all makes sense .... except for the "must be certified".  There is no
requirement for one to be certified or licensed in order to make repairs
to a CB.

The rules for CB are written so that your average, unlicensed,
non-technical "Joe" can read them easily.  That's why the CB rules look
like an FAQ.  If there was a requirement for certification or license the
rule would say "...repairs must be performed by...", rather than
"...should be...".  It's a suggestion to the non-technical user since he
is ultimately responsible for the proper operation of his station.

A fine job has been done here in explaining what certification means...
but to the answer the original question, "License required for CB
radio repair?" - the answer is "no" - no license required.

Curtis
GROL



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From: [e-mail] (J.FOX)
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Subject: Manual for Icom IC-27H    *Wanted*
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I am looking for a service manual for a Icom Ic 27H vhf rig.

If you have one for sale please send me a email with price etc.

Thanks   Jim    email  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:27 1996
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        The MARA/KL7JFU web pages are back online after some 3 months
of troubles.  Please drop by, and if you have any mods/plans, send em in for
addition to our archives.

http://www.lostnet.org/radio/kl7jfu.html


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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Re: MorseCode on the Mac?
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In article
<[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Grady Russell) wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a morsecode tutor for use on a Mac? Passed no-code,
> need to work on code now.
>
> TIA,
> Grady

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From: [e-mail] (Lon Lentz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need suggestion on VHF or UHF for commercial use.
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  My company will be purchasing HTs for business use in the next few
days and I'm debating between VHF (170) and UHF (460) radios. I would
like to get a mile range (conditions permitting). They will be used in
and around 2 or 3 story apartment complexes with a 1/2 mile range, and
a lot of other uses requiring penetration of buildings.

  My assumption is that the UHF would have tendencies of behaving a
lot like 800 MHz cell phone freqs by bouncing off buildings. I would
think that VHF would better penetrate buildings.

  Is this assumption correct?

  Also, how well would 49 MHz perform in these conditions?



  Lon Lentz - KE4EWB




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From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:30 1996
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From: Jim S <[e-mail] (Jim S)>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Paging? CTCSS?
Date: 30 Jul 1996 23:58:54 GMT
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TMF decoder
Costas, KE6SYN wrote> (snip..snip).................... I certainly
> hope that the manufacturers start including this feature in their
> radios.
>

Sounds like you had fun making it work, but I hope I still have a
choice not to buy it.... I have another question though... is it
legal to remotely operate your CB... as for example the remote
activated handshake that you speak about??

JimS


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Domonkos)
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Not sure about now but in the early 70's I remember Lafayette selling CB's
with selective calling, but I think they were calling handhelds or pagers,
I don't remember which.

Andy



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Winfield Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: pc soundcards with DSP, using Analog Devices PSS chipset
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 14:58:08 EST
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I'm still looking for pc soundcards using the Analog Devices PSS
(personal sound system) chipset (AD-2115 dsp with ram, AD1848
soundport, and the ECHO asic ESC614A).  I think it's the best way to
solve my problem: On July 12, I asked:

1) Are there any sound cards with DSP chips which can do modest
"real-time" FFTs, say 512 or 1024 samples, once a second,
etc. or even slower, without loading down the main CPU?  The
results of the FFT should be displayable in a window.  Sounds
real useful - anything available?

2) What's a good sound card with a DSP and a good library of C
routines and compiler to make use of said chip?

3) Anybody try DC-coupling the sound card A/D input stage or at
least paralleling a much larger coupling capacitor for reponse
down to 0.5Hz etc?  As you can guess, I want to do some simple
vibration monitoring!

The Analog Devices website says Cardinal, Adaptec, Orchid, Media
Devices, Western Digital, and other make PSS soundcards.  But I can't
confirm that - I suspect these companies did make them (and like
Cardinal, stopped) or meant to make them (and didn't).  They also
mention Wearnes Technology (who are they?).

Can anyone make any suggestions?  I do know quite a few hams and
radio shortwave listeners have worked with these cards and the DSP to
make realtime audio filters in their computers.

Anybody want to sell some old Cardinal or Media Devices boards?

--
Winfield Hill      [e-mail]
Rowland Institute for Science
Cambridge, MA 02142



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:35 1996
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From: VK1FF <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSL Practices and card quality?
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 06:36:55 -0700
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Jim Lowman wrote:

> 1)  Do you send your own QSL card, in response to an "unsolicited" card
>     arriving in your mailbox?

Yep sure do.

> 2)  Do you send your card in an envelope?

Yes.  It's not uncommon for the postal service to mangle/stamp post cards
past the point of being readable.   To avoid that problem I send my
cards in envelopes.

> 3)  ...with a SASE or "green stamp" enclosed?

No SASE or green stamp needed for my card.   I'm just as greatful to
receive the other ham's card as they are to receive mine.

> 4)  Do you QSL 100%, under some circumstances, or not at all?

I QSL 100% under all circumstances.

> 5)  Do you believe that all pertinent info should be printed/written on the
> *front* of the card?

No/Yes.   I don't think it necessarily needs to be on the front, but all
of the info needs to be on one side of the card.


--

73, Jim Muller            Packet:   [e-mail]
VK1FF/WB2FFY              Internet: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kebsch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSL Practices and card quality?
Date: 29 Jul 1996 14:32:22 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG, Paderborn, Germany
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) writes:

>I was first licensed in 1966, but have not been active on HF, other than
> ..

I was licenced in 1969.

Before I start to answere your questions and tell you my opinion I should
say that I am a German.

First at all: 99.9% of my cards I am sending/receiving via our buro.
Only 0.1% of my cards I am sending direct. My response quote via buro
is ca. 30-40% and via direct the quote is nearly 90%. I am running a list
about every card, which I have sent direct! :->)

>1)  Do you send your own QSL card, in response to an "unsolicited" card
>    arriving in your mailbox?

I am QSL-ing each "unsolicited" card, if the QSO is in my log. If I have
received the card via direct and the requesting HAM has not provided any
form of return postage to cover the full expence then I don't QSL direct!
I am not the owner of an oil-well. Then I am QSL-ing via buro in return.

>2)  Do you send your card in an envelope?

Only for rare DX or very rare IOTA I am sending via direct and then I use
an envelope, providing a SAE and some form of return postage: US-Dollar(s)
or IRC(s).

BTW: The last weekend I have received my TI9X card; only parts of it in a funn
y
     plastic bag! The envelope (my SAE) and the TI9X card inside was damaged
     by the US postal service (stamped with: "Damaged by US postal service").
     Approx. 6 US-Dollar (postage, return postage and a little donation for
     the DX-pedition) are blown into the wind .. :-(((

>3)  ...with a SASE or "green stamp" enclosed?

Mostly US-Dollar(s). In some countries it's forbidden to receive any foreign
currency via airmail envelopes (i.e. India).

>4)  Do you QSL 100%, under some circumstances, or not at all?

Usually I QSL every first QSO. If the other HAM don't want a QSL then I don't.

>5)  Do you believe that all pertinent info should be printed/written on the
>*front* of the card?

Allmost all QSL-managers are more happy with "one sided card".

Good luck with QSL-ing

73 de Waldemar, DK3VN
--
E-Mail:  [e-mail] .. or .. Packet Radio:  DK3VN @ DB0NOS.#NRW.DEU.EU
Big antennas, high in the sky, are better than small ones, low!          [b9h]


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Question about weatherfax equipment
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:37:53 GMT
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From my experiences with wefax I would imagine you'd really need to go
USB and try 3650 for starters to get yourself sorted on a good signal
[well it is here!] I was building these things by the dozen at one
time and shoe-horned them all in to the cover of a 25 way plug and
they worked very well indeed but for crystal clear results you do need
a decent signal and on one of the side bands too I seem to remember.
Ken/g4mpq

"Chris Meijer" <[e-mail]> said through the grapevine:

>Hello all,
>
>I have some questions about weatherfax receptions.
>I want to be able to recieve weatherfax images on my sailboat, to do
>so I first got myself an installation of the shareware JVFax software.
>Secondly I built a simple comparator to digitalise the output of my radio
>to the serial port of my computer.
>After testing that one with a frequency generator i hooked it up to my
>PC and radio and tried to tune into a transmission of a weatherfax to get
>it
>on screen.
>
>Now, the only thing i see on my screen is a lot of noise. I tried several
>frequencies
>i got from lists, but i doubt about the quality of my radio.
>It is a simple reciever with 9 short wave bands and analog tuning. Maybe
>this tuning is
>a problem and do i just have to spend more effort in finding the correct
>frequency.
>My question is, is it possible to recieve those weather fax images with
>such a radio?
>Or do i really need a more advanced type with single side band option?
>
>I hope some answers will be sent to me, since i am really anxious to get
>some results,
>even if i have to get another radio...
>
>
>
>Chris Meijer



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lewis P. Stephens Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 06:01:17 -0600
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OK, now how do you vote and when?

Lewis


In article <4thfed$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](michael silva) wrote:

>In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Lewis
>P. Stephens Jr.) writes:
>>
>>I thought that it was already a done deal. I have been waotng for it
>>to show up on my server.
>
>Nope, it's not a done deal.  A vote should be coming up soon, and
>everybody who's the least bit interested needs to register their YES
>vote.  I seem to remember that the rules for passing a group are at
>least 100 more YES votes than NO votes, so when the vote comes up we
>can't just "let George do it", we've all got to vote.
>
>73,
>Mike, KK6GM

--
Lewis P. Stephens Jr.                 KM5BH (Amateur Radio Callsign)
Amber, Inc.                           CLARC (Clear Lake Amateur Radio Club)
[e-mail]                     NAMU (NASA Area Macintosh Users)
[e-mail]
73404.1403.compuserve.com


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:39 1996
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Subject: Re: rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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For those who are following the discussion re:rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors:

The place where this is happening is on news.groups!  Also keep an eye
on  it to find out when and how to vote for this newsgroup.  We'd like to
confine the discussion to the news.groups area as this one is for other
purposes.  However there will be information on how to vote when the CFV
(call for votes) is announced as it is germaine to the discussions that
take place on this group.

73,

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:40 1996
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From: Mark <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Repeater operation with ADI AT-200 ht
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 12:11:19 -0700
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Yesterday, my girlfriend bought a "ADI AT-200" two meter handitalkie.
It seems to work well 'cept for one thing... The firmware only allows
unique offsets/ctcss/shifts in two of the twenty memory slots.  The
remaining eighteen slots must all be the same.  If one changes the tone
in one slot it changes in all of them.  This would be okay if the
repeater around here didn't require subaudible tone.  But, we live in a
metro area and they do.

Can this radio be modified to accept settings unique to each memory slot
or, should I take the unit back?

If I take it back, what can you tell me about the Alinco DJ-180T(H) or,
the Alinco DJ-F1T(-TH)?

Money is a object here.


Thanks,
Mark KC6UIH
Kim  KF6FHF


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:41 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Requirements to Operate in Canada with U.S. License?
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 17:59:25 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Jim Cummings" writes:

> Gerald Schmitt wrote:
> >
> > In <4tgqu2$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Matt
> > Stone ) writes:
> > >
> > >Planning a trip by car to canada.  Have a Tech Plus ticket in U.S.
> > What
> > >
> > >would I need to operate on 2M in Canada?

> > No special requirments to operate in Canada on 2M

> Schmitt is a tad incorrect stating that appending the appropriate
> Canadian callsign district to the US callsign while operating in Canada
> is a courtesy.  In accordance with subsection 57(2) of the General Radio
> Regulations, Part II, it is mandatory to append the Canadian prefix.

I don't wish to pick nits, but these postings take on a life of there
own so they should be made pedantically accurate.  I believe that
this US-Canadian agreement only benefits the respective citizens of
these two countries and not everyone who has been licensed by them.

(See S97.5 (c)(2) for the US side.  I don't have the text of the
GRR's but I believe that the Canadian wording is comparable.)

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:42 1996
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From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Requirements to Operate in Canada with U.S. License?
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:28:00 -0700
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
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Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>
>            [e-mail] "Jim Cummings" writes:

> I don't wish to pick nits, but these postings take on a life of there
> own so they should be made pedantically accurate.  I believe that
> this US-Canadian agreement only benefits the respective citizens of
> these two countries and not everyone who has been licensed by them.
>
> (See S97.5 (c)(2) for the US side.  I don't have the text of the
> GRR's but I believe that the Canadian wording is comparable.)
>
> Regards,
> --
>    Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
>                                                 [e-mail]
>                                         packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na

Quite right, the Canadian regulations do reflect the wording of the
treaty with respect to the citizenship of the licensee.  I was only
addressing Schmitt's comment that appending the Canadian prefix area was
optional where in fact, according to the Canadian regulations, it is
obligatory.

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:43 1996
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From: Jake Brodsky <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: RF attenuation of mirrored glass at 900MHz?
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 13:52:48 -0700
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John Paul Morrison wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how many dB of loss mirrored office tower glass
> windows have at 900 MHz? Or where I could look it up?
>
> Cell phones work inside the building, so it couldn't be too bad.
>
> I'm guessing between 5 to 10 dB.
>

It depends on what they mirrored the glass with and how conductive
it is.  I ran in to the same problems about five years ago when the
office building they were building at work had that kind of glass.

We experimented at 23 GHz (one of the many microwave links to and
from this building) and discovered an atteunation of about 10 dB.
We decided to do things the right way and erect a radome window on
the penthouse.  It works pretty well.

73,

Jake Brodsky, mailto:[e-mail]
PP-ASEL-IA, Cessna Cardinal N30946, Based @ MD24
Amateur Radio Station AB3A
"Beware of the massive impossible!"


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Workshop)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: rf design problem?
Date: 30 Jul 1996 11:06:50 GMT
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Hi there
Is there anyone who can help me figure out a problem concerning a design that
I have
seen in a book.You will need to have the book to help me.
The book is RF CIRCUIT DESIGN by CHRIS BOWICK.
On page 159 there is a diagram and design of a 15W 100MHz amplifier.
I understand the input and output matching that he has done,but where did he g
et
the 310 ohm resistor and the 1uH coil that are connected to the collector of t
he transistor
from.These are also in parallel with the output of the transistor and I would
assume affect
the matching network.These don't seem to have been taken into account.
Any help appreciated
Cheers
Robin
email : [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: Re: Schematic for Roger Beep...
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Grady Russell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Does anyone have a generic schematic for a roger beep?

Why not be unique and just say "Over" at the end of each transmission?
It might catch on and you'll become famous.
KH2PZ


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From: [e-mail] (Clinton Peebles)
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SV>English.  "Can you copy me?" is much clearer than "QNJ?"  And

QNJ??  Never heard of that one.
---
 ■ QMPro 1.53 ■ I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous..


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From: [e-mail] (Ed Christie)
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Subject: Re: Stupid Question about wire guage
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Joe Moor <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'm having a mental block.

>How does one figure the adequate wire guage for a
>specific application.  I know I've seen charts, but
>can't find them now I need them.

>Here's my situation 12V @ 15 amps max.  What wire
>guage is safe?

>TIA N2TQL

 Joe

 14 feet  total distance use 16ga
  24                                             14
  38                                              38
  60                           60

   These distances are max for a .5 volt drop.
   If a 1 volt drop is ok the distances can be doubled.

  Ed Christie



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I'm having a mental block.

How does one figure the adequate wire guage for a
specific application.  I know I've seen charts, but
can't find them now I need them.

Here's my situation 12V @ 15 amps max.  What wire
guage is safe?

TIA N2TQL


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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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MMedi13720 wrote:
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> First, I'd like to thank all of the folks who replied to my "Learning
> CW-Any Pointers?" post. The code is coming a lot easier now.

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How many times do I have to read messages from hams that send a
"Thank You" addressed to ALL. When one seeks help and
someone takes the time to respond, the least the receiver of
help can do is send a simple individual reply for thanks. After
all-the respondents to this call for help responded one by one.
I have received up to 75 messages in a call for help and sent
individual thanks to each. It was very time consuming, but it
was the right thing to do.

Would you at your wedding, if you were the groom, get up at the
end of the reception and yell out, "Gee, Thanks everyone for the
gifts?"
If you are a  T Y P I C A L  ham--absolutely.

It is unlikely you will respond to this if you did not even bother to
respond to someone who  H E L P E D  you.
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Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #174 (for air through 8/2/96)
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #174 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 2-Aug:
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1.   Widow and Family of Recent AMSAT SK Slain in Kansas
2.   ARRL Board Meets in Connecticut, Award Winners Announced
3.   Winners of WRTC-96 Crowned after 18 Hour Contest Event
4.   FCC Reports on Popularity of Vanity Call Sign Program
5.   "Ancient Amateur Archives" with Bill Continelli, KE2XB
6.   "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
7.   Special Event Station Calendar
8.   SAFEX II Equipment Operational from Aboard MIR Complex
9.   FCC Opens Proceeding to Allow Electronic Filing of Comments
10.  Ken Cameron, KB5AWP, to Leave NASA Astronaut Corps
11.  Cause Found for Recent Power Blackout in Western US
12.  Weekly Propagation Forecast
13.  Frank P. Maggiore, N3FGN (ex-K3GQC), SK
14.  "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
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This week, Bill Continelli, KE2XB, unveils his new feature, the
"Ancient Amateur Archives".  This semi-weekly series explores the
history of amateur radio and those who developed the activity.  More
than just a history lesson, Bill discusses the stormy infancy of the
activity, traces the evolution of ham radio from spark to satellite,
and reveals other secrets of the "Archives".  We welcome KE2XB to
the staff of "This Week in Amateur Radio".
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(Beginning this week, registered affiliates with Internet e-mail
capability will receive a copy of the weekly program log along with
this summary for their convenience.  Sorry, we cannot honor
affiliate requests to send this info via AX.25 packet.)
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Funding for the program's transmission and production expense was
provided this week by a grant from the Stoddard Family of
North Webster, Indiana, and users of the N9SBH repeater system,
where "This Week in Amateur Radio" is heard in Elkhart, Warsaw, and
Ft. Wayne on 224.16 and 146.505 MHz.
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"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard on the "W0KIE Satellite Network" each Saturday at 9:00 PM
(EDT) on the Hughes Communications SBS-6 commercial communications
satellite, transponder 13B upper, located at 74 degrees west
longitude in equatorial geosynchronous orbit.  The transponder
center frequency is 12.019 GHz; tune up in frequency to 12.031 GHz.
Program audio is on the 6.2 MHz analog subcarrier and carried on
VHF/UHF repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860
kHz.  Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
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Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
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at 518/664-6809 (email [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lyndon Nerenberg)
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Subject: Re: VORTAC! (was: Re: Amateur RADAR?)
Date: 29 Jul 1996 03:12:31 -0700
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I wrote:

>Having missed the turnoff to the VE7ZZZ site *many* times, something
>that's been in the back of my mind for a while now is to scoop a
>surplus VORTAC station and move it up to the 2m band. This would let
>me install DME gear in the car in order to know when I'm about to
>miss the turnoff. (Yes, there is enough space at the turnoff to
>install the antenna farm.) Anyone out there messed with something
>like this?

Yes, it's bad form to followup to your own postings, but I have to
correct a massive error here.  As someone kindly pointed out in
private email, I should have said "move it DOWN to the 2m band."
Sorry about getting the sign wrong, folks.

For those of you who are NOT rocket scientists (must be most
of you -- I only received one message :-) your typical DME station
operates in the range between 962 and 1213 MHz. Moving this down to 2m
(or 440, or wherever) requires a change to the RF decks, but the
underlying logic doesn't have to change. (And yes, I realize this
is a wee bit of a frequency jump.)

Since I expect to be the only person using the modified service I
wasn't planning on carrying along the multi-channel support. (This keeps
the whole mess inside the ham bands, among other things.)

Can we get back to having FUN now?

--lyndon


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From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:57 1996
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From: William W Janssen <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: VORTAC! (was: Re: Amateur RADAR?)
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[e-mail] (Lyndon Nerenberg) wrote:
>[e-mail] (Chris Arndt) writes:
>
>>So, tell us more. I wondered about amateur radar for a while now, also.
>>What can you do with it? What bands? How much power? Can you work with
>>old marine radars? How do you ID?
>
>RADAR? Dull dull dull! :-)
>
>Having missed the turnoff to the VE7ZZZ site *many* times, something
>that's been in the back of my mind for a while now is to scoop a
>surplus VORTAC station and move it up to the 2m band. This would let
>me install DME gear in the car in order to know when I'm about to
>miss the turnoff. (Yes, there is enough space at the turnoff to
>install the antenna farm.) Anyone out there messed with something
>like this?
>
>--lyndon (turning left base for ZZZ :-)
>
>
>--
>
>Engage your brain before your mouth ...

A VORTAC station  is a VOR operating at about 110 MHz and
a TACAN station operating at about 1100 MHz. The distance measuring
portion is the TACAN and won't go into the 2 meter band.

Bill



From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:58 1996
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From: Jake Brodsky <[e-mail]>
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I know this is dumb as hell, but what if you just had the repeater site
report your azimuth and signal strength?  That would be useful in
any event (especially for locating jammers).  You could do this with
just four (extra) antennas and a doppler scanning device.

Geeze, stay away from those VOR rigs.  They can't compare to GPS in
accuracy and it would be a real pain to convert one...
--
Jake Brodsky
mailto:[e-mail]
Cessna Cardinal N30946 @ MD24
Amateur Radio Station AB3A
"Beware of the massive impossible!"


From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:47:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lyndon Nerenberg)
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Subject: Re: VORTAC! (was: Re: Amateur RADAR?)
Date: 30 Jul 1996 22:08:25 -0700
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William W Janssen <[e-mail]> writes:

>Remember that the VORTAC at 1 GHz is pulse modulated. It requires
>a wide bandwidth and is not permissable in the 2 Meter band.

With a 2.5uS pulse rise time I get about 150 KHz bandwidth (back of
the envelope) so yes, 2m is out, but 440 would be okay.

--lyndon


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From: [e-mail] (Lyndon Nerenberg)
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Subject: Re: VORTAC! (was: Re: Amateur RADAR?)
Date: 30 Jul 1996 22:14:17 -0700
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William W Janssen <[e-mail]> writes:

>Remember that the VORTAC at 1 GHz is pulse modulated. It requires
>a wide bandwidth and is not permissable in the 2 Meter band.

I get 150 KHz for bandwidth (back of the envelope based on a 2.5uS
pulse rise time). Ya, 2m is out, but 440 isn't a problem.

--lyndon


--

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Yantachka)
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Subject: Re: Want to get into Ham radio-anyone recommend a radio?
Date: 29 Jul 1996 17:32:18 GMT
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There are a few advantages/disadvantages to getting an HT.  First, the range
isn't great.  My club's repeater is just below a hill (working on the politica
l
aspect of moving it), and there's just not enough power to get in.  I do prefe
r
an HT because of it's portability.  Especially if you go to a lot of hamfests.

Generally, there are plenty of repeaters  around, so you won't have any
problems going any bit of a distance.

As for brands of radios, I've stuck with Alinco and Kenwood.  I've had two
Alincos--the DJ-F1, and the DJ-180.  They're really rugged, and fair priced,
but they tend not to have a lot of features.  They both have had a very simple

user interface.

The Kenwood...which I push more for...is a much better rig--usually smaller an
d
lots of bells and whistles.  I've had a TH-78A and now have a TH-79AD.  Of
course, all of this does cost a little more.  The 78 was a much better rig, so

if you can get your hands on one of those, all the more power to you.  Mine
disappeared last september, so that's why I had to get the 79.

Our radio club, KB1BRH has an HTX-404 (the Radio Shack), and just purchased tw
o
Alinco DJ-582Ts.  I can't stand using the HTX-404.  The interface is very
difficult to remeber, and the features just aren't there.  The Alincos are ver
y
straight forward, but don't pack in some of the features that Kenwood has.

I have heard of many hams having problems with Icoms, but I'm not sure of the
causes.  Yaesu's are pretty good, but I haven't had much experience with them.

(Our club advisor has a Yaesu FT-5100, which seems to be a great mobile rig.)

I hope this helps!

-Mark

Mark Yantachka
N1RII
President UVM ARC
E-Mail: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:48:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Hetzel)
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Subject: Where to find swinging/locking mobile antenna base
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Where can i find a mobile antenna base that will easily swing down 90 degrees
to lie flat along the roof?

I want to mount it outside the drivers window, on the gutter or roof, and be
able to reach out the window to lay the antenna flat as necessary.

I am sure i have seen something like this.  It was some kind of ball-joint
with detents at 90 deg. to hold the antenna in place.

It should be able to hold a standard 5/8 wave 2-m antenna.

I need to get this soon for an upcoming road trip.  Thanks much for any help
in finding this antenna.

Bill Hetzel
[e-mail]
510-632-5670
(please respond by email, as my news connection is flakey)





From [e-mail] Thu Aug 01 21:48:03 1996
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From: Sheldon Darack <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re:Win95 and SuperMorse
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:27:04 -0400
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SuperMorse 410 doesn't seem to be compatible with Windows 95.
You can run it in DOS mode by restarting the computer and as soon as you
see the message "starting Win95" press F8.  Then choose DOS Prompt from
the menu.  Change to the directory that has Supemorse and type SM.
That should run it.  If you want to start Win95, you type "win".
Shel  WA2UBK