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From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:15:55 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Arlan R. Levitan)
Subject: ... _ _ _ ...  Need one Dayton flea spot for HPARC!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:41:10 GMT

We just learned that the Hazel Park Amateur Radio Club didn't make the cut for

a flea market space at Dayton this year. In the past we have had a community
club table for miscellaneous stuff to sell, and a resting spot for our
handicapped and elderly members.

If anyone has one flea market spot that they don't need, we'd be happy to take

it and reimburse your costs. Reply via email.

73 N GUD DX
Arlan Levitan KG8OW
HPARC Special Events Coordinator


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:15:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: 2 meter or 440Mhz?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jljjo$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:29:27 GMT

Stanley Schroeder ([e-mail]) wrote:
: 2 meter or 440 Mhz?

Without knowing your location, it makes it more difficult to make a call.
Some areas have 440, and in some parts of the country it is virtually
non-existent.  Also, be sure to find out how many of the repeaters are
*open* meaning you can use them without belonging to a group.* Here in
southern California, there are lots of 440 repeaters, but many are not only
closed [membership required] but they are *private* which means they are
open only to a certain group.

OTOH, 2 meter repeaters are found virtually everywhere.

If your budget can take the hit, and there *is* 440 activity in your area,
then a dual-bander is the answer.  My recommendation would be the Yaesu
FT-51R.

The Radio Shack HTX-202 and -404 are good units.  I got the -202 for my
birthday last year, and liked it so much that I bought the -404.  They are
good value for the buck.  Another good point is lower susceptibility to
intermod, because only the ham bands are covered.  Downsides are size and
weight, and the limited number of memories [12].

If I can help further, please feel free to drop some e-mail.

73 de Jim - KF6CR





From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:15:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Timothy Woodburn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 2 meter or 440Mhz?
Date: 2 Apr 1996 20:34:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4js30g$[e-mail]>
References: <4jljjo$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

You might want to consider a dual-bander HT like the Yaesu FT-530. It is
absoulutly loaded with features and extremely compact. It is being
cleared out by many of the cataloge stores for under $300.



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:15:59 1996
From: "Yves Albert (Al \"Al\") Feder" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 220 gear FS
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 21:07:47 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm getting off 220, and am selling these rigs to pay for some
144/440 gear we're putting in here.

HT's:

KENWOOD TH-315A, very little use. With case, small charger, manual.
                                        $225.00 plus shipping.

TEMPO S-2, a veteran, but works great. Thumbwheel freq.selection,
           factory installed tone board, telescoping and rubber ducky
antennas, manuals, case.   $175.00 plus shipping.

MOBILE RIGS:

Icom 37A, with mike/manual. Used mobile. Works fine except at temps
below 10F (squeals, etc. - a lot of rigs die of fright until car warms
up!!!)                          $225.00 plus shipping.

Kenwood 321A, tone, mic, manual, etc. used mobile but in excellent
shape. $300.00 plus shipping.

NOTE: This rig  goes with the companion 221A for "stacking" for two
meters as well. The 221A is also available TO THE BUYER OF THE 321A
(NOT SEPARATELY!) with the stacking mount, for an additional $200.00.

Kenwood 3530A, toneboard installed, mic, manual, etc. never used mobile.
A really nice 220 rig, more elaborate than the 321A but bigger, so I
used this one in the shack. $325.00 plus shipping.


Most (I think all actually) of the rigs come with factory boxes and
all paperwork.

e-mail replies only pleez.......
Thanks!

73
Al W1EOX
--
--
Yves Albert (Al "Al") Feder
[e-mail]
Harpsichord Workshops and Recording Studios
"Danged if'n I unnerstand all I know"

 "When I go, I want to go quietly in my
  sleep, like my grandfather..... not
  screaming, like his passengers."


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:00 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: 30 meter operators
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:52:30 GMT
References: <4jmcs2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

I have been using 30 meters ever since I got shed of the HW-100
in favor of the TS-830S.  I can't remember exactly when that was,
but 12 and 17 were not available yet in the US.  It would have
been around 1989 or so.

I started out with a Butternut vertical and found it to be lots
of fun on 30m.  Later when I got rid of the Butternut I switched
to 50 ohm dipoles cut for the band.  The band is so small that you
can cover all of it with very low SWR.  Again, loads of fun.  Even
on low power when this band is open you can use a few watts and a
dipole and you are in CW heaven.  I use a Vibroplex bug at the
house and fall back to a straight key for slow work.

I tried CQ a few times on RTTY, but never got an answer and never
heard any other amateur RTTY, though the commercial RTTY is all
over the place.  I heard the bleeps and blurps of packet at the
upper end of the band.

Just this weekend I was on 30 again, this time from my car.  I
only use a straight key in the car, so I can copy 20-25 but send
only 15 or 17.  I like to run 60 watts or so from the Yaesu 747
with a bugcatcher on the back end of the car.  It's her father's
Oldsmobile.

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:01 1996
From: Tom Homewood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 30 meter operators
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 12:45:52 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jmcs2$[e-mail]>

Larry Jones wrote:
>
> I am operating 30 meters virtually all the time now and am interested in
> hearing from other 30 meter operators.  What kind of equiptment are you
> using, what antenna and what do you think about the band as concerns
> propagation and dx.- 73, wb5kyk
> PS:  I am in MS. and if you need a sked let me know.

I use an FT-990 and my 160 meter dipole fed with 450 ohm twin line for an
antenna.  I am located in Western Massachusetts.  I have good propagation
into Europe and often have stations there call me after I complete a QSO.
 I think one of the lobes on my antenna favors Europe.  I am relatively
new to the band, but like it.  I also have a vertical which in most cases
doesn't work as well.  Every once in a while there will be a station or
probably a direction that the vertical gets better results, but not
often.

73, Tom, K8TH


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Calvin Higa)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 30 meter operators
Date: 3 Apr 1996 10:55:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jtlfm$[e-mail]>
References: <4jmcs2$[e-mail]>

        I've only been on 30m for a few contacts.  Using an ICOM 765 to a
limited space dipole around the house ledge 32 feet each leg.  Only 10
feet at the feed point.  Yet, I've contacted New York and Japan in a
30 minute period.

        Is the award ban still on for 30 meters?  I had a mini-pile up,
could it be that a lot of people want signal reports from Hawaii?

        73 - Cal AH6OL.

Larry Jones ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am operating 30 meters virtually all the time now and am interested in
: hearing from other 30 meter operators.  What kind of equiptment are you
: using, what antenna and what do you think about the band as concerns
: propagation and dx.- 73, wb5kyk
: PS:  I am in MS. and if you need a sked let me know.


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:03 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 49Mhz Radio Shack Handheld
Date: 3 Apr 1996 23:14:08 GMT
Message-ID: <4jv0o0$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4iaohl$[e-mail]> <4itg19$[e-mail]> <4j3t4h$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Mark A. Garrett) wrote:
>
>In a previous article, [e-mail] () says:
>
>>Mark A. Garrett <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>>Yes, the single channel units can be converted to 6 meters with a crystal
>>>change and tuneup.  Crystals are fundamental X3 for transmit and for the
>>
>>How complicated is the tuneup? Details available from any articles/site?
>>
>>Steve Lapinskas
>>KA1JJA
>>
>Steve:
>I guess I should post a FAQ on how to do this since I have been posting
>general responses.  When I get time here I will set down and print up a FAQ o
n this and some
>things that I have run across.

Please do, Mark - I'd like to see it as well.

-Will Flor    [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:04 1996
From: Geoff Brown <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 50MHz Email list
Date: 3 Apr 1996 19:00:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4juhs8$[e-mail]>

If you are interested in 50MHz please let us have your EMail address.
Tks Geoff
http://user.itl.net/~equinox



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:05 1996
From: Judhi Prasetyo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Again: FT-5200
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 08:36:19 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Seems funny to reply my own posting.
But It could be a good information for some of you.

I wrote :
>When I connect a speaker (internal or external) then the rig seems
>'hang'.
>Dial knob still work but no button does including mic up/down button.
>The rig works properly if I remove any speaker from the unit. :-(
>I also try using earpiece with high impedance coil, but also can't help.

>From Kevin Karamanos
>First, is your radio modified ?? There are 2 different reset procedures
>for the FT-5200, depending on how the internal jumpers are on in your
>radio.  So is your radio stock or Modified ???

>73's

>Kevin

Now I fix the problem.
It's just because I changed one piece of wire inside the Head Unit
labelled wire number 3.
I took it out, leave it open, and work properly, just like that.
Yes, I leave it OPEN !

Thanks guys for supporting me to fix this problem.

-jps



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:06 1996
From: Simon Twigger <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur Exam practice via Email
Date: 2 Apr 1996 22:17:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4js90t$[e-mail]>

Hi there,

I have recently set up a script to automatically generate sample exam
papers in response to an email request. For example, to request a Novice
paper, send an email to:

[e-mail]

with the line:

generate novice

as the body of the email, and a sample novice paper, plus answers, will
be returned to your email address in due course. Simply replace 'novice'
with technician, general, advanced, extra, or extra96 (new question pool
for exams after June 1996) for the other exams. Some figures are
required and whilst these aren't provided in the email a figure sheet
can be obtained from the ARRL.

All these exams can also be taken via the WWW at:

http://www.biochem.mcw.edu/Postdocs/Simon/radio/exam.html

where all the figures are provided and the exams are graded on-line.

73!  Simon, AA9PW/G1SNT




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Read)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amiga Ham Software
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 10:43:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4jr0fe$[e-mail]>

Does anyone use their Amiga for Ham utilities.
I wrote a HF-Fax decoding program if anyone is interested in swapping.
Would like Morse and Rtty decoding programs or 68k Source files,
so I can write it myself.

Cheers RR
======================================
|THE HOME OF AMFAX..|.Robert.Read....|
|HF FAX SOFTWARE....|.Christchurch...|
|for the Amiga......|.New Zealand....|
|  EMAIL: [e-mail]......|
======================================



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Amsat Phase 3D Donations.
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 00:48:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4jshva$[e-mail]>


Send your donations for the Amsat Phase 3D satellite project to:


Amsat-NA/Phase 3D
850 Sligo Ave. Suite 600
Silver Spring, M.D.




1996 Countdown to Phase 3D !



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:09 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Amsat Phase 3D Donations.
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 00:43:07 EST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jshva$[e-mail]>

(Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) writes:

>Send your donations for the Amsat Phase 3D satellite project to:

>Amsat-NA/Phase 3D
>850 Sligo Ave. Suite 600
>Silver Spring, M.D.

>1996 Countdown to Phase 3D !

Good reminder Vince!   Donors get very nice award-quality certificate too!





From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Valerie Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: any CB users?
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 07:05:20 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I work for a market research company, and we are doing a project that may
involve the use of CB's.  Anyone out there who uses/is knowledgeable about CB
radios?  Time is short-I'd like to get your ideas ASAP.



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:12 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLB019 Bill seeks protection
Date: 2 Apr 1996 10:11:14 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>



SB QST @ ARL $ARLB019
ARLB019 Bill seeks protection

ZCZC AG98
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 19  ARLB019
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  April 2, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB019
ARLB019 Bill seeks protection

Rep. Bill Baker (R-California) has introduced a bill to protect ham
volunteers in the Volunteer Examination program and the Amateur
Auxiliary of the FCC from frivolous lawsuits while they are doing
their volunteer jobs.  The bill, HR 3207, would afford amateurs
engaged in statutorily defined activities with the VE program and
with the Amateur Auxiliary the same liability as federal workers
under the Federal Tort Claims Act.  When individuals who fall under
such protection are sued for something they have done while
performing their duties, the Federal government steps in to protect
them.  Baker introduced the measure, the Amateur Radio Volunteer
Services Act of 1996, March 29, 1996, as an amendment to the
Communications Act.

While the bill would not afford absolute blanket immunity, it does
offer a fairly rigorous body of legal protection from the kind of
malicious litigation that tends to frighten volunteers away from
these activities, said ARRL Legislative and Public Affairs Manager
Steve Mansfield, N1MZA.

Baker said that Amateur Radio volunteers provide an invaluable
service to all ham radio operators by assisting in licensing and
monitoring activities, thus saving taxpayer dollars.  Those savings
would dry up if volunteers stay away for fear of lawsuits, Baker
said in a letter to colleagues.  The bill is a simplified version of
legislation originally introduced in the 103rd Congress by Rep. Jim
Slattery.  Individuals and private organizations currently protected
by the Federal Tort Claims Act include Volunteers in Service to
America (VISTA), the Peace Corps and the Job Corps.

Baker has enlisted members of both parties as original cosponsors of
the bill.  These include: Charles Wilson (D-TX); Bob Wise (D-WV);
Edolphus Townes (D-NY); Mike Parker (R-MS); Toby Roth (R-WI);
Charles Taylor (R-NC); Ron Dellums (D-CA); David Funderburk, K4TPJ,
(R-NC); Ed Royce (R-CA); Norman Dicks (D-WA); Vern Ehlers (R-MI);
Chris Cox (R-CA); Andrew Jacobs (D-IN); Harold Rogers (R-KY); Dennis
Hastert (R-IL); Dave Weldon (R-FL); Anna Eshoo (D-CA); Ken Calvert
(R-CA); Doug Bereuter (R-NE); Gene Green (D-TX); George E. Brown
(D-CA); Eva Clayton (D-NC); and Sam Farr (D-CA).

ARRL members may want to write their own Congressional
Representatives urging them to support HR 3207.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARO's suck
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:51:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4jrmc5$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>I must confess that at various times in my life I have toyed with
>the idea of becomming an amateur radio operator.

Dear clueless:

Thank you for the new acronym regarding Ham Radio, don't believe I
have heard us referred to as AROs before..will have to remember that
one. Too bad you tried to MEMORIZE the code, I'll bet it was hard
counting all those dits and dahs!
Had you listened long enough, you would have found that our
conversations are quite diverse, intelligent and technically oriented.

It is true that some hams do not fix or build their own equipment,
partially due to the fact that is often cheaper to simply buy a radio;
however, there are many of us who still build and repair our own
equipment.  There are dishonest people in all walks of life, and ham
radio is no exception, but for the most part, you are stereotyping us
incorrectly. What makes you think that hams are NOT involved in
community work and highway assistance? The advent of the cellular
phone has diminished the role that BOTH hams and CBers play in this
arena. Times change.

The only one that is a loser here (not a looser) is you. You have
certainly lost out on the opportunity to become a respected member of
our fraternity. In your case, I feel there is nothing lost in your
going back to the chicken band. Have fun working your chicken band
clown friends!





From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARO's suck
Date: 2 Apr 1996 17:35:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4jrohh$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jrmc5$[e-mail]>

Bob Raymond ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] wrote:
:
: >I must confess that at various times in my life I have toyed with
: >the idea of becomming an amateur radio operator.
:
: Dear clueless:
:
: Thank you for the new acronym regarding Ham Radio, don't believe I
: have heard us referred to as AROs before..will have to remember that
: one. Too bad you tried to MEMORIZE the code, I'll bet it was hard
: counting all those dits and dahs!
: Had you listened long enough, you would have found that our
: conversations are quite diverse, intelligent and technically oriented.
:
: It is true that some hams do not fix or build their own equipment,
: partially due to the fact that is often cheaper to simply buy a radio;
: however, there are many of us who still build and repair our own
: equipment.  There are dishonest people in all walks of life, and ham
: radio is no exception, but for the most part, you are stereotyping us
: incorrectly. What makes you think that hams are NOT involved in
: community work and highway assistance? The advent of the cellular
: phone has diminished the role that BOTH hams and CBers play in this
: arena. Times change.
:
: The only one that is a loser here (not a looser) is you. You have
: certainly lost out on the opportunity to become a respected member of
: our fraternity. In your case, I feel there is nothing lost in your
: going back to the chicken band. Have fun working your chicken band
: clown friends!
:
:
:


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARO's suck
Date: 2 Apr 1996 17:43:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4jrp0e$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jm7nu$[e-mail]>


Bob,

Yep, you are a ham allright. Hopefully, if you keep using the word
outsider, the hobby (uh, I mean clique) will never get any members
under 50!

:
: Hmmmmm.  Clueless here sure knows a LOT about the hobby to be an
: outsider!  I think Clueless (good name...it fits well!!) used nearly
: every cliche topic from the top twenty "Chicken Little - the Band is
: Falling" list.  CW testing, appliance operatin', QRO vs QRP, etc etc.
: I think Clueless already has a ticket and maybe his wife divorced him
: and took all his money and now he can't afford to play with the big
: boys any more.  Or he so pissed off the local 2m group that Clueless
: isn't invited to play in the reindeer games there, so he opted for a
: change in venue for his Clueless banter.  Or maybe he's jaded after
: having played the role of the unsuspecting dufus in a
: rec.radio.amateur.swap deal one time too many.  One can only imagine
: the real motivation for this line of mindless trolling drivel.





:
: I have read that use of the Freudian slip "looser" when you really
: meant "loser" has something to do with latent male homosexuality.  And
: of course the root word for "gaggle" is "gag"....hmmmm maybe I'm onto
: something here.  But, the saving grace, he still has his account at
: AOL!!
:
: Bob
:



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:18 1996
From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 1 Apr 1996 02:58:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4jngpj$[e-mail]>


 In response to Jim Cummings:
 "In less than an honorable fashion" refers to the fact that no scientific pol
l
 was ever conducted by ARRL to  confirm membership's wishes; the issue
 had nothing whatsover to do with any government decision. In the Hudson
 Division, an unofficial (nonbinding) poll was conducted, and the
 _ARRL_ proposal was defeated. The second question asked in the poll,
  however,  was "do you support  the CONCEPT of a no-code license?"
 The results of that poll was supposedly in the affirmative, depending on
 how one counted the responses, but the question was bogus.

 There's an old adage in politics: when one can't pass a proposal on its
 own merit, it's passed in CONCEPT. Indeed, the decision to go ahead
 with no-code was a done deal before the BoD ever "considered" it for
 passage.

 Regards,
 Vince, WB2EZG



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:19 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 4 Apr 1996 16:57:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4k0v1o$afc$[e-mail]>
References: <4jou0g$[e-mail]>

Vince remarked to Hans:

>You'll have to cut to the chase, as you suggested several days
>ago, and collect "the best minds in ham radio" to secure a
>solution.

Good answer!

Both the IARU and ARRL have recently established and announced
groups to do just that. These are "roll up your sleeves and park
your ego at the door" working teams. Can we count on you to be
a contributor to their work?

--
73, de Hans K0HB
--No election system is perfect. For example, every now and
  then an innocent man is sent to the legislature.


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:19 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 5 Apr 1996 17:24:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4k3l18$[e-mail]>
References: <4jou0g$[e-mail]> <4k0v1o$afc$[e-mail]>

Hans K0HB <[e-mail]> writes:

>Can we count on you to be a contributor to their work?

Good luck, Hans.  Unfortunately, it is always easier to criticize the work
of others than it is to do the work yourself.
--
Dick Flanagan, W6OLD - ([e-mail]) - Minden, NV


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:20 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 4 Apr 1996 15:05:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4k0ofj$6ve$[e-mail]>
References: <4ju2mp$[e-mail]>

Jim Cummings said:

>Finally, I do not understand Briancomano's beef with the ARRL
>BoD in this issue anyways because the final decision is left
>to the FCC, not the ARRL.  Since the final outcome was not in
>accordance with the ARRL's submission, at least the darts
>should be aimed at the appropriate target.

Don't try to confuse this issue with facts. Vince is an editor,
not a reporter.


--
73, de Hans K0HB
--No election system is perfect. For example, every now and
  then an innocent man is sent to the legislature.


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:21 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 4 Apr 1996 15:01:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4k0o7p$6ve$[e-mail]>
References: <4jou0g$[e-mail]>

Vince comments:

>There is likely to be an even larger gap between those
>in the Amateur Service when and if a no-code HF license
>becomes law.

Two points:

1) This "gap" is self imposed.
2) It is rarely observed on the air, but permeates cyberspace.
   (Maybe it's a "cyber" gap and not a "real" gap.)

--
73, de Hans K0HB
--No election system is perfect. For example, every now and
  then an innocent man is sent to the legislature.


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:22 1996
From: "Lorelei Lindenaux (SAR)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Astro 200 Transceiver
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:46:39 -0500
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960403204253.12364B-100000@virtu>

Hello:
     My dad has a Astro 200 Transceiver for Sale. 80 10M with factory
installed 500 cycle CW filter.  Includes. Mic, AC power supply, DC
cables, and spkr.  SASE brings Brochure.  Will ship US all for $475.00.
Show room condition.  You can call my dad at 813-842-4818 (New Port
Richey, Florida.  His name is Maurice W4NHP.
Or you can e-mail me at [e-mail].

                                        THanks,  Lorelei


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Stockton)
Subject: Re: DANG! his FM25 doesn't work, what to do?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:21:37 GMT
References: <4jh8m3$[e-mail]>

Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The FM-25 is a synthesized FM broadcast transmitter sold in kit
: form by Ramsey Electronics.  Very popular for the micropower and
: pirate FM broadcasters.



   Ah, thanks Dana, that seems to explain everything!


   I've only ever met one Ramsey kit, a rather nasty 2m receiver with pot
and varactor tuned LO that a friend bought as a toy.  OK, I don't think
the thing was intended to be any sort of tour-de-force, but could easily
have been bought by anyone looking for a serious receiver.Unless their other
kits are orders of magnitude better than that one, I suppose I must
understand why the original poster seemed more than a little irritated.


    (I find swearing difficult, I can't even complete "Oh shit!" between
realising I'm about to come off a horse and getting all the wind knocked
out of me.)


   Cheers
          David  GM4ZNX


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (David)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 1 Apr 1996 14:26:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4jop33$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]> <4j9vod$[e-mail]>

In article <4j9vod$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Walt Davidso
n) says:
>
>[e-mail] (anonymous) wrote:
>
>>But having people come on here waffling how good it was in the good ol' days
.
>
>>Well I have no desire to become like one of the good ol' boys.
>
>At least they do not perceive a need to conceal their identities.
>Why do you?
>
>73 de G3NYY
>
>--
>Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
>                                    [e-mail]
>


Walt old boy,

If I do release my individuality onto here then I'll get a stream
of old farts telling me that I ought to do this or I ought to do
that. I'm not that kinda guy. I am shy, quiet and anonymous. That is the
essence of what i am.

comprende?


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 16:08:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4ju4eo$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]> <4jb82l$[e-mail]> <4joq7q$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (David) wrote:

>I suppose now we're going to get someone nit-picking the baove apart.

I have never nit-picked a baove in my life .... but there's always a
first time!  (What is it?  Sounds like some sort of bagel.)

Never mind the old farts ... it's the old *tarts* you have to look out
for on eighty metres in the mornings!

:-)

73 de G3NYY
(de omni re scibili, et quibusdam aliis)

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:27 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ford Products - RFI
Date: 1 Apr 1996 16:07:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4jov0l$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnjlu$[e-mail]>

Peter,

The $50 price given for "the fix" is only the part, it does *NOT* include labo
r.

It's not that hard to drop the gas tank and install yourself, but it can be bo
th
hazardous (OF COURSE, you're working around gasoline for heaven's sake!)
and time consuming.  I've replaced the in-tank fuel pump on several Fords,
and found that it takes few special tools (I think the only one I didn't have
was
a non-sparking brass "drift" to knock the locking ring loose.).  You just prop
erly
plan (drive the tank as close to empty as you can...) and use common sense
(DO NOT SMOKE WHILE WORKING AROUND GASOLINE, etc, etc.).

If ya gotta pay Ford for it, ask in advance for the labor cost!  When I checke
d
the price (to see if it was "cost effective" for me to do the work) on two dif
ferent
model cars over several years, the labor rate was "constant", but the time
required to do the work was radically different!  I was told three hours on on
e
car and six on another!  That $55 bucks an hour adds up fast...


Bill Young
[e-mail]
KB0UZQ


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:29 1996
From: "Yves Albert (Al \"Al\") Feder" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS 220 gear
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 07:17:04 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm getting off 220, and am selling these rigs to pay for some
144/440 gear we're putting in here.

HT's:

KENWOOD TH-315A, very little use. With case, small charger, manual.
                                        $225.00 plus shipping.

TEMPO S-2, a veteran, but works great. Thumbwheel freq.selection,
           factory installed tone board, telescoping and rubber ducky
antennas, manuals, case.   $175.00 plus shipping.

MOBILE RIGS:

Icom 37A, with mike/manual. Used mobile. Works fine except at temps
below 10F (squeals, etc. - a lot of rigs die of fright until car warms
up!!!)                          $225.00 plus shipping.

Kenwood 321A, tone, mic, manual, etc. used mobile but in excellent
shape. $300.00 plus shipping.

NOTE: This rig  goes with the companion 221A for "stacking" for two
meters as well. The 221A is also available TO THE BUYER OF THE 321A
(NOT SEPARATELY!) with the stacking mount, for an additional $200.00.

Kenwood 3530A, toneboard installed, mic, manual, etc. never used mobile.
A really nice 220 rig, more elaborate than the 321A but bigger, so I
used this one in the shack. $325.00 plus shipping.


Most (I think all actually) of the rigs come with factory boxes and
all paperwork.

e-mail replies only pleez.......
Thanks!

73
Al W1EOX
--
Yves Albert (Al "Al") Feder
[e-mail]
Harpsichord Workshops and Recording Studios
"Danged if'n I unnerstand all I know"

 "When I go, I want to go quietly in my
  sleep, like my grandfather..... not
  screaming, like his passengers."


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gene McAvoy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: USS Missouri/WW2END Special Event Certificates - Limited Number!
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 01:20:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4jsjiu$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]


We have a limited number of original certificates commemorating the
end of WWII and the USS Missouri Special Event of (Sept 1995) and
operation of WW2END.  Each certificate contains a US issue, 32-cent
POW/MIA Stamp and the cancellation which was used only at the USS
Missouri/ WW2END Special Event.  Each certificate signed and numbered.
Only 400 were made.  Get yours NOW!  Just $3.00 from the Missouri
Project (a non-profit organization).

You can download a .jpg of this certificate from the following URL:

        http://www.sincom.com/~scanware/index.html


For your certificate send $3.00 along with your name and address to:

        USS Missouri Certificate Project
        PO Box 1743
        Silverdale, WA 98383-1743


Gene / KG7XD
email: [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Danneberger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Glass Mounted Mobile Antennas?
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 02:36:38 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi!

I have been told that the antennas you can mount on the glass of your
automobile will not work if the glass is tinted.  Something about the
use of aluminum in the process of tinting the glass.  Can anyone fill
me in on this possibility?

If that is the case does anyone have any suggestions on what I might
be able to use on a new 1996 Dodge Caravan.  I want to stay away from
a magnetic mount.  The mounts still leave scratches.

Thanks!

cul...73, David


David Danneberger
John Heckewelder Memorial Moravian Church
Gnadenhutten, OH

[e-mail]
ecunet: [e-mail]
amprnet: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:33 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Glass Mounted Mobile Antennas?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 16:18:28 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Danneb
erger) writes:
>I have been told that the antennas you can mount on the glass of your
>automobile will not work if the glass is tinted.  Something about the
>use of aluminum in the process of tinting the glass.  Can anyone fill
>me in on this possibility?

Yeah, most tints are metallic. That'll hose the glass mount (of course
I don't think much of glass mounts anyway). If the tint is light, it
may not kill you, but if it is a darker tint it will almost certainly
ruin any hope of making a glass mount work. There are so many drawbacks
to glass mount antennas anyway that I advise that you use something else,
virtually *anything* else.

>If that is the case does anyone have any suggestions on what I might
>be able to use on a new 1996 Dodge Caravan.  I want to stay away from
>a magnetic mount.  The mounts still leave scratches.

Magmounts can be Ok, just make sure you put a heavy coat of paste
wax on the spot where you're going to install the magmount, and
make sure everything is *really* clean when you set it down. As
long as you *leave* it in place, it won't scratch the roof. I
had one on a Camaro for a long time and never had a mark. But
you're much better to just drill the hole for a NMO mount and
do the job right. (If you're worried about resale, just put a
cheap cellular antenna on the mount when you get ready to sell
and advertise it as "cellular ready", and ask *extra* for the
added "feature".)

If it's a lease vehicle and you really can't drill the hole, then
you might want to consider a coaxial sleeve dipole mounted on a
Hustler mast and bumper mount. That works pretty well, though it
looks like a HF antenna. The rear hatch may present a problem
though. If the van has a luggage rack, Comet sells a clamp mount
that clamps to the rack rail. That's not as good as a hole mount
because the grounplane isn't perfect, but it does work, and almost
certainly better than a glass mount. You can also use the clamp
mount on a mirror if you have "west coast" style mirrors (sometimes
come with towing packages).

The big problem with all the "temporary" mounting schemes is the
routing of the coax into the vehicle. If you run it through a door,
it'll eventually fail there from the crimping action, and the exposed
portion can beat against the vehicle in the wind. If you drill a hole
for the coax, then mount the antenna in it and be done with it.

A *real* ham brings a cordless drill with him to the dealership so
he can drill the hole and mount the antenna on his new vehicle before
he drives it off the lot. :-)

I look at where to mount radios and drill holes for antennas as part
of my checklist when shopping for a vehicle. If I can't figure out a
good way to mount the antennas and radios, I look at something else.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:34 1996
From: William W Janssen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GPS - ACCURACY
Date: 2 Apr 1996 07:48:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4jqm3j$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (George Fanjoy VE3PEB) wrote:
>There have been a couple of posts on Ground Positioning Systems and I have a
>question.
>
>We are aware that the system was installed for military uses and that the
>US military "adjusted" some or all satellites to reduce the accuracy to 100
>metres or so.
>
>My grapevine tells me that Pres Clinton recently announed this "adjusting"
>would be stopped and the full accuracy made available to all.
>
>       Correct?
>
>       Can existing GPS receivers get the increased accuracy or is
>new/upgraded equipment needed?
>
>--
>George  VE3PEB
>TORONTO, Canada
>[phone]

The GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM is suppoosed to be full accuracy
sometime in the near(?) future. No changes are needed to the receivers

The stupid military finaly saw the light. The FAA and Coast Guard
are installing radio transmitters to to transmit correcting signals
so as to cancel the errors that were being introduced.

The military was putting in errors and the FAA was taking them out.

Bill K7NOM



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Andrew OBrien)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GPS - ACCURACY
Date: 3 Apr 1996 00:46:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4jshon$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jqm3j$[e-mail]>




The US Govt announced via VP Al Gore that they will stop the military
error encoding for commercial/amateur use of GPS in 4-5 years time.

73 de Andy KB2EOQ



William W
Janssen
([e-mail]) wrote: : [e-mail] (George Fanjoy VE3PEB) wrote:
: >There have been a couple of posts on Ground Positioning Systems and I have
a
: >question.
: >
: >We are aware that the system was installed for military uses and that the
: >US military "adjusted" some or all satellites to reduce the accuracy to 100
: >metres or so.
: >
: >My grapevine tells me that Pres Clinton recently announed this "adjusting"
: >would be stopped and the full accuracy made available to all.
: >
: >     Correct?
: >
: >     Can existing GPS receivers get the increased accuracy or is
: >new/upgraded equipment needed?
: >
: >--
: >George  VE3PEB
: >TORONTO, Canada
: >[phone]

: The GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM is suppoosed to be full accuracy
: sometime in the near(?) future. No changes are needed to the receivers

: The stupid military finaly saw the light. The FAA and Coast Guard
: are installing radio transmitters to to transmit correcting signals
: so as to cancel the errors that were being introduced.

: The military was putting in errors and the FAA was taking them out.

: Bill K7NOM


--
Andrew J. O'Brien

[e-mail]
COMPUSERVE = 73162,3335
PACKET = KB2EOQ@AA2IS.#WNY.NY.USA.NA


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (George Fanjoy VE3PEB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: GPS - ACCURACY
Date: 1 Apr 1996 15:15:42 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

There have been a couple of posts on Ground Positioning Systems and I have a
question.

We are aware that the system was installed for military uses and that the
US military "adjusted" some or all satellites to reduce the accuracy to 100
metres or so.

My grapevine tells me that Pres Clinton recently announed this "adjusting"
would be stopped and the full accuracy made available to all.

        Correct?

        Can existing GPS receivers get the increased accuracy or is
new/upgraded equipment needed?

--
George  VE3PEB
TORONTO, Canada
[phone]


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:37 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Great DX Conditions!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:50:32 GMT
References: <4jonqo$[e-mail]> <4jpfci$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Roy Lewallen) wrote:
>Impressive, but the DX just ain't what it usta be. Back when I started, we
>had REAL DX that'd keep you glowing all night, like 5 Uniform 4 Golf Tango
>and 6 Lima 6 Golf Bravo. Now, that was REAL DX!

Roy, I think you're reading your radio's parts list, not your log!

I heard a couple of guys talking about XR4TI but it's a car not a dx station.
Could you use a Drake TR7 in a Triumph TR7, that's what I want to know.
--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:38 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Great DX Conditions!
Date: 1 Apr 1996 17:26:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4jp3jm$nsk$[e-mail]>
References: <4jonqo$[e-mail]>

Papa Hotel Zero November Echo Yankee and Sierra Lima One Mike
were also very strong.

--
--73, de Hans K0HB

--Minds, like parachutes, only work when they are opened.


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Roy Lewallen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Great DX Conditions!
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 20:48:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4jpfci$[e-mail]>
References: <4jonqo$[e-mail]>

Impressive, but the DX just ain't what it usta be. Back when I started, we
had REAL DX that'd keep you glowing all night, like 5 Uniform 4 Golf Tango
and 6 Lima 6 Golf Bravo. Now, that was REAL DX!

73,
Roy Lewallen
Charter Member, OFC


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hallicrafters SX 28
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 22:47:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4jpmr3$[e-mail]>
References: <4jphh9$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Andrei Bulucea) wrote:

>I would like to buy a Hallicrafters SX 28 or similar. receiver. I
>found a dealer that is selling a working SX-28 for $475. I would like
>to know if this is a reasonable price or not.

     It might be reasonable if:

Every tubular and electrolytic capacitor in the unit has been replaced
with a physically and electrically *identical* NOS part, checked for
value, within the last year.

Every resistor has been replaced with a physically and electrically
*identical* NOS part, checked for value, within the last year.

All tubes are new, or with less than two months use, and are the
original brand, type, and manufacturing date.

The unit is cosmetically perfect and has not been repainted or
rechromed.

There are no modifications or alterations whatsoever, inside or out.

It is complete with matching speaker in like-new condition and all
original factory literature.

       Or ...

The entire receiver is still in the original factory shipping carton
and has only been removed for purposes of operational tests prior to
this sale.

They made tons of these receivers and they are plentiful on the used
market.  The specifications are not particularly good and much of the
factory wiring looks like the proverbial rat's nest (they can be a
real nightmare to service).

On the plus side, the knobs remind me of the '64 'Vette I used to
have.

73,
Jack  WB3U

PS:  If you're not technically inclined and don't have money to burn,
maintaining old tube-type gear can present some unique financial
problems!


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Ham Radio & More Show Frequency Changes
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 20:02:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4js10s$[e-mail]>

The Ham Radio and More Show, celebrating it's 5 year anniversary this month on

the broadcast bands, has new shortwave frequency changes that will greatly
enhance it's coverage.

Effective 4/7/96:
WWCR shortwave will air the show LIVE each Sunday at 6:00pm ET, (2200utc) on
7.435mhz AND 12.160mhz.
Also, tape delayed at 5:00am ET (0900utc) Mondays on 3.315mhz and Saturdays at

noon ET (1600utc) on 12.160mhz.

Call in and be part of the show. The toll free number is 1-800-293-5366 and
outside the country at 602-230-2755. Fax at 602-241-1540.

Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
RealAudio site:http://www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html

The show airs LIVE each SUNDAY at 6:00pm ET (2200utc) on many stations through
out the country.
ALSO: LIVE everywhere on WWCR shortwave, 100,000 watts, on 7.435mhz and 12.160
mhz, 2200utc.

The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 0900utc on 3.315, on Mon
days, and Saturdays at 1600utc on 12.160.


Support "WOG". Written only General!!!






From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert A. Lanier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Ham Radio Article
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 14:22:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4jrcu6$[e-mail]>

I am trying to get a copy of the article "Digital HF Radio A Sampling
of Techniques" by Rohde. It was published in Ham Radio magazine in
April 1985.

Does anyone have a copy of this article or know of a source for it? I
would be willing to pay all shipping costs.

73s de
Tony,  KE4ATO
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (The Willemin's)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: hamfest
Date: 3 Apr 1996 22:46:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4juv47$[e-mail]>

NOARSFEST 96

3rd Sat in July

Lorain County Fairgrounds Wellington, Ohio
V.E.
DXCC Card Checking
Free 807's
Prizes

admission 5.00 Dollars

8 am til 3 pm

Hope to C U there

Mike AA8EU

President NOARS



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Derry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HF doesn't suck
Date: 4 Apr 1996 15:15:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4k0p34$[e-mail]>

Howdy,

HF doesn't suck, two meters sucks.  It's the CB band of the nineties.

If you think all they talk about is wx, rig, location, then you have
missed a lot.

If HF sucks, how can you explain the one-hour QSO I had with Roger in the
Netherlands?  We talked about a large number of topics, not the least of
which was the racing career of (I can't spell this) A. Luyendyck.

Oh yes those 2-m fm contacts are really interesting:

 * Wait, Joe, while I change battery packs.
 * Do you want to me to go to high power?
 * Oops, I had the wrong offset, sorry.
 * I put up a new antenna yesterday, it's a mag mount stuck to the
   refrigerator.
 * The repeater has been down for a week, so I haven't been able to get
   on the air.
 * Well here I am at the work twenty.
 * Heard a guy call CQ a while ago.  I wonder what he wanted.
 * It's starting to rain here now.
 * Try it again.  I'm here at my hot spot.
 * You're a little scratchy.  Adjust your squelch.

Oh, well.  That's the nice thing about this hobby, there's something for
everyone.  10-4

73 de Jack, K9CUN


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:46 1996
From: Carl Rosenberg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HF radio-telephone question
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 17:46:43 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello Radio knowledgeable people,

    I'm an aviator with limited radio knowledge, with a newbie question
about HF radios.

    I need to put in an HF set to go far away from land, and a unit
(King Gold Crown KHF 950, 150 watts SSB) has been suggested.

    Question: can I use an SSB transciever to link up with phone
networks? The literature mentions "all 176 ITU semi-duplex channels
in the radio-telephone network permanently stored in memory". What's
an ITU? What radio-telephone network?

    Is this something I could use on a remote, phone-less airstrip
to tie into the telephone network? E.g. in the Bahamas or Africa, or
in the air somewhere?

    Are there more modern or more economical aviation units than the
KHF 950?

Thanks much,

Carl Rosenberg
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:47 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF radio-telephone question
Date: 3 Apr 1996 23:12:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4jv0kt$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Carl Rosenberg <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>    Question: can I use an SSB transciever to link up with phone
>networks? The literature mentions "all 176 ITU semi-duplex channels
>in the radio-telephone network permanently stored in memory". What's
>an ITU? What radio-telephone network?
>

The ITU is the International Telecommunications Union, an international
body governing telecommunications.  I believe it's a UN agency.  They
have designated a bunch of HF channels for aeronautical use; these
frequencies are the ones referenced here.  The radio-telephone network
referred to is a network of (usually private) HF stations offering
radiotelephone service.  You call them on the radio and ask to be
connected to a given phone #, etc.  This is used by ships at sea as
well as aircraft.  It is not cheap.

>    Is this something I could use on a remote, phone-less airstrip
>to tie into the telephone network? E.g. in the Bahamas or Africa, or
>in the air somewhere?
>

Yes, as long as you could make contact with such a station.  If you're
at 3000 feet or more, you would probably be able to reach at least one
from just about anywhere in the world.

-Will Flor    [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gustavo D. Leizerovich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HF SSB Selective Call
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:39:09
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

HF-SSB Selective Call Units.
Brand new in the box.
Compatible with any SSB radio.
Excellent performance in poor S/N environments.
Ackback and Busy modes of operation.

Price:  $99 each

Gus Leizerovich
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Date: 4 Apr 1996 18:17:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4k13o8$[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]> <4jfjv2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <Pine.BSD.3.91.960330180854.10551A-10000

[e-mail]> <4k0u0e$[e-mail]>
Distribution:

Bob Raymond ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Lots of griping about HF and Ham radio in general:
:
: If you think HF and Ham radio sucks, then why do you even remain in
: the hobby? Quit bitching about it, and get lost, or go back to your CB
: radio or your modem. Those of us who care about the hobby will not
: miss you in the least.
:
:

I thought I could be convinced otherwise, but I have decided that I was
right in not liking ham radio. You like it, that's good. But that doesn't
mean that it is the Ideal hobby for everyone. I just needed confirmation
before dropping it totally. I can allways use the money & time for my
band which is far more important.


l8r.




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 16:31:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4k0u0e$[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]> <4jfjv2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Lots of griping about HF and Ham radio in general:

If you think HF and Ham radio sucks, then why do you even remain in
the hobby? Quit bitching about it, and get lost, or go back to your CB
radio or your modem. Those of us who care about the hobby will not
miss you in the least.







From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Guy Teague)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: 1 Apr 1996 03:32:31 -0500
Message-ID: <4jo4av$[e-mail]>
References: <4jd51d$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jkv70$[e-mail]>

Joe Leikhim ([e-mail]) wrote:
<del>
: A 38 special is good for blasting holes for RG58 and RG59. A 45 Cal is
: good for RG 8 and RG 11. I have no experience with the larger hardline
: cables.
--------

... for which your neighbors can be extremely grateful, I'm sure ...
--
Regards  73 de  [e-mail]  "They're out there"              K Kesey
Guy      KG5VT  [e-mail]  "Hey don't eat that yellow snow" F Zappa


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Gallup)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 17:27:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4jp4a6$[e-mail]>
References: <4jd51d$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jkv70$[e-mail]> <4jo4av$[e-mail]>


>: A 38 special is good for blasting holes for RG58 and RG59. A 45 Cal is
>: good for RG 8 and RG 11. I have no experience with the larger hardline
>: cables.

    I believe a 10 or 12 ga shotgun (solid slugs preferred) would work for up
to 1 1/8 " hardline.  For larger holes, use shot, and back off of wall as
required for diameter of hole you want.

   Ed


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark Walsh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: 2 Apr 1996 03:22:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4jq6h5$[e-mail]>
References: <4jd51d$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jkv70$[e-mail]>

Joe Leikhim ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
: >In article <4jd51d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joe Sullivan) wr
ites:

: >>I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack.  What is the
: >>recommended way to run coax thru the wall?  I would like to know what I am

: >>doing before I get to the sheetrock stage.

: A 38 special is good for blasting holes for RG58 and RG59. A 45 Cal is
: good for RG 8 and RG 11. I have no experience with the larger hardline
: cables.

My problem is that the .22 works great for the RG-58
on the outside of the house, but the hole on the inside
is big enough for any hardline, but what to do?

Anyway, the original poster did not mention where his
coax is going, and I can't believe that anybody hasn't
mentioned lightning protection.  I've got a sixteen
hole Polyphaser entrance panel (PEEP).  It works with
sixteen inch centers, and this particular model has
eight ports on each side of one of the studs.  It will
accept coax or hardline up to three inches in diameter
which ought to do fall all but the most ardent uwave
fanatics, and the protection devices bolt right into
the unit.  Four six inch wide copper straps go down to
a perimeter buss bar to which are attached ground rods.
It is definitely adequate.

***** Mark Walsh ***** [e-mail] *****


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 1 Apr 96 22:04:05 EST
References: <4jd51d$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jkv70$[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In article <4jkv70$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Joe Leikhim)
writes:
> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>
>>In article <4jd51d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joe Sullivan) wri
tes:
>>>I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack.  What is the
>>>recommended way to run coax thru the wall?  I would like to know what I am
>>>doing before I get to the sheetrock stage.
>>>Post answers here or email me at [e-mail]
>>>Thank You
>
> A 38 special is good for blasting holes for RG58 and RG59. A 45 Cal is
> good for RG 8 and RG 11. I have no experience with the larger hardline
> cables.
>

Ummm... 12ga slug? :)
Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Gallup)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 21:09:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4k1dnc$[e-mail]>
References: <4jd51d$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jkv70$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

>>>In article <4jd51d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joe Sullivan)
writes:
>>>>I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack.  What is the
>>>>recommended way to run coax thru the wall?

   In all reality, just drill a large (~ 2") hole in the wall when it is
complete and stick in a nice white PVC pipe section with flange fittings slid
over each end to hold firmly in place.  Presents a fairly aesthetic appearance

and is functional.

  Ed  WB6SAT  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:16:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Walt Kornienko)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: 3 Apr 1996 05:45:00 GMT
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4jt38t$[e-mail]>
References: <4jd51d$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Mike Gathergood ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4jd51d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Joe Sullivan" wri
tes:

: > I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack.  What is the
: > recommended way to run coax thru the wall?  I would like to know what I am

: > doing before I get to the sheetrock stage.
: > Post answers here or email me at [e-mail]
: > Thank You

: There's an article on this in March's QST.
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^
                                 ^^^^^^^^
                                   ^^^^

: B73
: Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
: G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *

I must remind one and all that to pass electrical inspection
(do I have to get it inspected? you bet?) all antenna leadin wires,
coaxial coables, and control wires entering and leaving your shack MUST
pass thru a bulk head that is grounded to the service entrance ground.
In fact all electrodes (ground rods) must be tied together. That includes
all service entrance ground rods, your station equipment ground rods,
any and all antenna tower ground rods. This is to ensure that all grounds
are at the same potentioal.  I have to run 500' of #6 solid Cu bonding
all ground rods at each tower, and I have two towers with man, many rods.

The article in QST is in error, and I should have expected someone
at the League would have caught it before publication. The Nation
Electric Code (NEC) is quite specific when it comes to proper/legal
amateur station design. Believe me, I know the amateur sections of the
NEC quite well as I am in the process of bringing my station up to spec.
I'm sorry if I rained on your parade, but please heed my warning.
Your insurance company may not pay for all your goodies after
the next lightening strike BECAUSE your installation didn't meet
the code.

--
*****************************************************************
*                                                               *
*              73 de Walt Kornienko - K2WK (FRC)                *
*        [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]        *
*                                                               *
*****************************************************************


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:00 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Wells)
Subject: Re: ICOM 765 MODS
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 22:03:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4js888$[e-mail]>
References: <4jhlvl$[e-mail]>

In article <4jhlvl$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Frank Ellesmere) wrote:
>Anyone got any ICOM 765 mods?
>
>Frank KG0FC/G8CJ
>Mankato, MN
>


If you check any of the mod databases you will find sveral. My 765 is about
2.5 years old and had most of them already installed by the factory. I did the

passband tuning mod and another mod I came up with to use the 250Hz second IF
filter on RTTY. If you would like details, e-mail me.

73 de Dave KD6TO


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jens Goerke)
Subject: Re: ICOM T21a
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jk226$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:11:11 GMT

David Dyk ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi.  About a year and a half ago, I purchased a ICOM t21a transciever at a
> local hamfest.  It is now out of warranty, I believe.  Recently, it will not

> turn on, and won't display anything on the display.  The green recieve light

> in the corner is on, but not as bright as usual.  Also, there is a faint his
s
> from the speaker, as if the squelch were to low, however the volume and
> squelch controls do nothing.  Nothing I do seems to have any affect, short o
f
> taking out the battery and/or disconnecting the power cable.  That stops the

> noise, and turns off the faint green light.  Any comments/suggestions would
be
[...]

I had a similar problem with an IC02 once and solved it by opening
the unit and pressing the little button on the inside. Seems to be
the "complete reset" button is the only thing that _really_ resets
the battery-buffered CPU.

Hope that helps,
        Jens, DB9LL
--
Missing coffee error - operator halted.

This message may not be distributed via the Microsoft Network.


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:02 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Richard Lubash)
Subject: Job Offering
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 17:37:36 GMT

Job Offering:

Technical Editor for 73 Amateur Radio Today

I am moving on to other aspects of the publishing business and am
looking for someone to fill my position at 73.
------------------------

To be a candidate for this position you should:

Hold a valid amateur radio license

Have an understanding of radio and electronics

Have a working knowledge of technical drawing, desktop publishing and
photographic scanning using Macintosh computers.

Be able to edit manuscripts and reviews for technical content.

Work with manufactures and authors to schedule and develop product
reviews.

Want to live in New Hampshire

------------------------

If interested please email

Richard Lubash
Technical Editor - 73 Amateur Radio Today
603-924-0058
fax [phone]
email [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rick Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Learning Morse Code
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 15:34:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4jopuc$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Ken Meinken) wrote:

>L >From: [e-mail] ()
>L >Subject: Learning Morse Code
>L >
>L >I am thinking about getting  a Ham Liciense. I already have a receiver
>L >and DX all the time. Can anyone reccommend a good program for teaching
>L >Morse Code? Is there a FAQ list for getting a liciense? If so can
>L >someone send me a copy?
>L >
>L >Thanks! I enjoy this group very much.
>L >
>L >Regards
>L >
>L >Lloyd
>L >
>L >
>Lloyd,

>I think different approaches work well with different people.  What I
>found worked for me was to use a code practice oscillator and send a
>character and then say the letter in my mind.  Keep up with the same
>letter 50 or 100 times, then move on to another letter. Later come back
>and do the first letter again.

>IMO, you want to develop a Pavlovian response so that when you hear "dit
>da da" you think and write "W".  When you hear "dah dit dit dit" you write
>"B", etc.

>Once you develop that and know the alphabet and numbers well, then you
>might start listening to some code tapes or listen to on the air code
>practice.

>73, Ken WA8JXM

>--- WinQwk 2.0 a#0
As far as computer programs are concerned, I know of 2: Super Morse &
Morse Academy. I used Super Morse & it worked just fine. As a matter
of fact, I'd still be learning if it wasn't for that program. I
believe most hams should be able to get it for you. I'd highly
recommend it. My wife is presently using Morse Academy & so far she is
quite satisfied with it. The ablsoute best way to learn CW is to spend
a little time every day, say 20 minutes. By doing that, you will not
overload yourself. That's what I did. Also I didn't send any code
unitl I could copy at about 5 wpm.
Also, if you have a tape recorder, try making tapes using a newspaper
acticle: put the tape away for a day & then try copying it. Not only
will it test your copying ability, it will also test your own 'fist'.
By making a series of these tapes, say one a day, then you will have
an ample supply of test material. I did't use that as I found out
about it after I recieved my ticket but it sure seems like a great
idea.
I originally had some 'code tapes' & as far as I was concerned they
were garbage. Alot of fumbling around. The computer program is an
outstanding way to learn CW.
If I can do it...anyone can do it & I have been active on CW for about
6 months now. I just can't believe how much fun it is. It sure does
take practice though!!
Good Luck
Rick / 73 VE6RVW



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tommy Karlberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: mod IC737
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 23:23:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4jr9oh$[e-mail]>

Hi!

I want to use my IC-737 with a SSB-electronics transverter to operate
on 70 cm in Europe. as the HF-rig only covers 28 to 30 MHz and the
transverter can be altered to operate on 2 * 2 MHz i miss 2 MHz on the
satellites. I would like to get the HF rig to operate from 24 to 30
MHZ and get the whole (european) 70cm band in one peace.

Is there anybody who knows how to do this mod with the Icom rig?

Thanks in advance!

/ SM7PAF  Tommy





From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:07 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Next test...(thanks for nuthin')
Date: 2 Apr 1996 17:11:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4jrn47$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Excuse me if this information is maintained elswhere on the net, but I am
>> interested in taking my Technician test and I was wondering if anybody
>> knew if there will be a test given in the greater Hampton Roads area in
>> the near future.
>
>Well this was my first post to this newsgroup.  Did I get any answers at
>all? No I did not. Is it that I only want to take the technician exams?
>Hey here is somebody who _wants_ to take the test, who wants to become a
>ham. I am sorry if I feel that taking the code test right away is too much
>for me for fit in between work, kids, wife and my other hobby. Not a great
>statement on the overall helpfullness of this particular newsgroup. Maybe
>you people should look up from your code/no-code arguments for a minute!
>
>btw - I found out the dates and times for the tests using the WWW - all on
>my own.

First off, in defense of the people on the newsgroup, perhaps no one was
able to answer your question.  I have no idea where the "Hampton Roads"
area is.  Out of the 800,000 or so hams in the US, only a small fraction
are on Usenet.  Of those, you have to be lucky enough to have someone read
your note that can actually answer it.  But that's about as far I will go
in defending most of us.

You have hit on something that has been discouraging me - it appears to
have discouraged you a bit too....

The amateur newsgroups are pretty worthless.  It seems like all of the
postings are nothing but stupid, petty, beat the carcass arguments.  Code?
No code? Who's a "real" ham?  Over 80% of the postings in r.r.a.policy are
arguments over code that are going nowhere.

These arguments are over politics.  That's it!  Among amateurs, the code/no
code debate ranks right up there with the debate over abortion.  NOBODY
HERE HAS THE ANSWER that will satisfy everyone.  But we'll beat the hell
out of it!

These stupid arguments are not doing us any good.  I am surprised that Matt
is still going to take a test and get involved with this hobby.  He must
have a someone that is encouraging him.  It must be enough encouragement to
offset the newsgroups.  I'll tell you something....If I had started
reading/paticipating in these newsgroups before I had a license, I may have
never gone down to take the test.  Who wants to join the ranks of such a
bickering group of divided people who will probably never agree.

I must be in bad mood this morning.  I think I had better quit now before I
 people think I am related to Burt Fisher.



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Next test...(thanks for nuthin')
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 04:38:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4jsvq3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jrn47$[e-mail]>

   "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'll tell you something....If I had started reading/paticipating in
>these newsgroups before I had a license, I may have never gone down
>to take the test.  Who wants to join the ranks of such a bickering
>group of divided people who will probably never agree.

I agree, but don't forget that hams are a diverse group and that
one of the things they like to do most is talk.  If everyone had the
same opinion about everything, ham radio would be pretty boring.

>I must be in bad mood this morning.  I think I had better quit now
>before I people think I am related to Burt Fisher.

Oh well, at least you're more polite than cousin Burt.  ;)

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Next test...(thanks for nuthin')
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 13:25:17 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
[dumb question snipped]
>
> Well this was my first post to this newsgroup.  Did I get any answers at

[rant snipped]

My apologies, I fired off my mouth before my brain was engaged. It has
been pointed out to me that my original post may very well not have made
it outside our company's servers. I should have checked that out before I
indicted the newsgroup as a whole. For that I am sorry. But I am really
tired of the code/no-code threads ;-)

Regards,

Matt

Matthew C. Sargent
[e-mail]
AMA# 457887


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:10 1996
From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Next test...(thanks for nuthin')
Date: 3 Apr 1996 15:25:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4ju58o$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:
>Well this was my first post to this newsgroup.  Did I get any answers at
>all? No I did not.

Hi Matthew, next time ask us a question that we know the answer to.

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:11 1996
From: Mike Persson or Beth Ager <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Next test...(thanks for nuthin')
Date: 3 Apr 1996 05:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4jt0kg$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jrn47$[e-mail]>

"C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:


>>Not a great
>>statement on the overall helpfullness of this particular newsgroup. Maybe
>>you people should look up from your code/no-code arguments for a minute!
>>
>>btw - I found out the dates and times for the tests using the WWW - all on
>>my own.

>
>First off, in defense of the people on the newsgroup, perhaps no one was
>able to answer your question.  I have no idea where the "Hampton Roads"
>area is.  Out of the 800,000 or so hams in the US, only a small fraction
>are on Usenet.  Of those, you have to be lucky enough to have someone read
>your note that can actually answer it.  But that's about as far I will go
>in defending most of us.
>
>You have hit on something that has been discouraging me - it appears to
>have discouraged you a bit too....

I have no idea where Hampton roads is, either.  Sounds like someplace out
east.  Perhaps if you had been a little more explicit, someone might have
 been able to answer your query.

As for the other complaint: that these ham newsgroups are worthless.
Welcome to Usenet, gentlemen.  Theodore Sturgeon, the science fiction
writer, came up with Sturgeon's Law:  Ninety percent of everything is
crap.

I don't see why that wouldn't apply to Usenet as well :)

A few days ago I posted a query about code requirement waivers on behalf
of someone I'm elmering and received a flood of responses.  Frankly, I'm
thrilled with all the OMs on this newsgroup who leapt to help me out.  A
million thanks to all.

73 de NN9E [Beth Ager]



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rich McAllister)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ??
Date: 02 Apr 1996 18:58:22 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>

In article <4jeu7r$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (WB
3U) writes:

>Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to
>call CQ on 75 meters.  They also said that a number of hams on the
>band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't
>know why.
>
>Can someone explain this to me?

Those darn contesters call CQ.  You wouldn't want to be confused with
a Contester, would you?  Besides, a real 75er never ends a QSO, so
there's no need for a call to start a new one...



--
Rich McAllister ([e-mail])


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 17:25:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4jp402$[e-mail]>
References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <[e-mail]> <4j3m77$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j5r02$[e-mail]> <4jahoe$[e-mail]> <4jc8qt$[e-mail]> <4jecdh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (R. Wiley) wrote:

>The object of the no-code license has nothing to do with
>attracting "computer types". Canada tried digital licenses
>long before the US no-code license to attract the Pac Man
>crowd.  The response was underwhelming.  The no-code
>license was created to help electronic importers sell
>2 meter boxes.

Although I oppose no-code HF phone privelages, I disagree with the
last statement.  The motives of the ARRL in this issue may have been
unrealistic and ill-conceived, but I believe they were genuine.

Part of this problem stems from the fact that in the early days of
radio, ARRL was instrumental in keeping the wolves at bay.  However,
the wolves are smarter now and better able to manipulate a less-astute
political adversary.

If the ARRL wishes to succeed politically, it should surround itself
with a team of accomplished liars, able to fend off the advances of
their own kind. The ultimate goal in this matter should be to relieve
the FCC of control of this spectrum and permanently deed it to the
Amateur Service.  Otherwise, the uncertainty will never end and
resources will continue to be spent at the political front where they
benefit no one except the politicians themselves.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:15 1996
Date: 02 Apr 1996 19:28:00 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Wolf Harranth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Subject: OEM1M Multimedia Test

RADIO AUSTRIA INTERNATIONAL
will operate special event station OEM1M on occasion of the International
Marconi Day, on Saturday, 20. April 1996, 0000-2400 UTC. Modes and working
frequencies will be announced at the full hour in all our broadcasts.
- For the full schedule look at our homepage http://www.ping.at/rai/
  or write to: Radio Austria International, A-1136 Vienna, Austria/Europe
  or send me a netmail

Skeds are possible and will be announced at our homepage.

If you'd like to take part in our multi media test:
- check whether you can pick up our sigs at 0905, 1205 and/or 1605 UTC
  on 6.155 and/or 13.730 khZ (or via ASTRA Digital Radio)
- register for a sked at [e-mail] or Fido 2:310/39.44 or packet
  [e-mail]
- If you don't forget to provide the necessary information we will inform
  you if you are being put on the list
- Listen to Radio Austria International on 20 April (at times and
  frequencies mentioned above), and we will announce your call-sign and
  assign a working frequency.
- Go to that frequency immediately and (hopefully) enjoy the QSO with
  OEM1M. You will never again have so many listeners - the test will be
  broadcast live by Radio Austria International to its worldwide audience.

Yes, there is a beautifuil special QSL card, too.

73 de Wolf OE1WHC



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Wolf HARRANTH OE1WHC                      InterNet: [e-mail]
Radio Austria International               Fido    : 2:310/39.44
A-1136 Vienna                             Packet  : [e-mail]
Austria/Europe                            Fax     : [phone]
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## CrossPoint v3.1 R ##


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (robert morgenstern)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Oh ham radio is better than sex?
Date: 3 Apr 1996 02:52:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4jsp6b$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Date:         Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:12:40 -0500
: From:         Robin Arnaud <[e-mail]>

: One reason, I admit, is that I've simply lost interest in ham radio.  I've
: listened for years to long drawn-out conversations on HF between folks who
: have very little to say except to talk about their radios, their antennas,
: their feedlines, the skip conditions, that sorta stuff.  I've always found
: that wearisome and strange, since I don't use my telephone that way.  Call
: someone on the phone and spend an hour or so talking about the telephone:

: "Hi, Stephanie, this is Robin!  How's this telephone sound?  It's an AT&T.
I
: just added a  bunch of special modifications to it... so how's *your*
: telephone doing?  REally?  Cool!  I can't wait for spring to come back so I
: can watch the birds gathering on the telephone lines outside again.  Oh, but
: those deed restrictions in your neighborhood... cables have to be buried,
: huh?  That's a shame.  Hey, did y'hear that?  Oh, well, it sounded sorta lik
e
: an echo for a split second.  Better take this phone apart again and check
: ...it..."  etc etc etc ad nauseum.
: 
I dont  see it the same way;
I have discussed wine making, laminar air flow in wind tunnels, home brew
wind tunnels that is " pine
car " racing how to keep my oil paint tubes from caking up. etc. Its just
like a cocktail party, you meet a stranger and what do you talk about?
Well, your both at the same party, or on the same frequency, what other
interests do you have, scuba diving, photography, raising pidgons,
caving, what ever; take the lead , be aggresive
try it, it dont bite
73...Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: out-of-country operations
Date: 3 Apr 1996 00:27:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jsglq$[e-mail]>
References: <4js38o$[e-mail]>

Timothy Woodburn ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am traveling to the Bahamas this month and would like to take my 2M HT
: with me. Is it legal to transmit outside of the US? Are there some
: countrys that permitt FCC licensed operators to operate in there country?
: I have a travel agency and so travel all over the world. It would be
: great to take my hobby with me!

: Thanks!

: Tim, KF6BVU

Tim, there are other countries where you can operate with a reciprocal
license but most require arrangements be made ahead of time. The only
places where you can 'show up' and operate are U.S. territories, i.e.,
the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, etc.   Best place to check for a list
of countries/proceedures would be the ARRL.

73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Timothy Woodburn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: out-of-country operations
Date: 2 Apr 1996 20:38:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4js38o$[e-mail]>

I am traveling to the Bahamas this month and would like to take my 2M HT
with me. Is it legal to transmit outside of the US? Are there some
countrys that permitt FCC licensed operators to operate in there country?
I have a travel agency and so travel all over the world. It would be
great to take my hobby with me!

Thanks!

Tim, KF6BVU



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (JA Glasscock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Packet-Internet, & Internet-Packet Gateways
Date: 4 Apr 96 04:51:15 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anybody know about any Packet-Internet gateways that you can access
packet networks from by Telneting in, and email? Please send any information
to Vance A. Glasscock <[e-mail]>.



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: pot calling kettle
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 18:59:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4jp9g8$[e-mail]>
References: <4j3gn6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jju8g$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

   Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have helped and showed more kids ham radio than most of you.
>I teach electronics. I have helped MANY.

You get paid for teaching.  Why did you stop helping?

73,
Jack  WB3U



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:21 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: pot calling kettle
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 06:06:29 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j3gn6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jju8g$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jp9g8$[e-mail]>

WB3U wrote:

> You get paid for teaching.  Why did you stop helping?
>
> 73,
> Jack  WB3U

I became a teacher and got paid for it due to the many free classes I taught
at a local high school. Even after I was a paid teacher I got many donations
through work done on my own time. However ham radio is so boring that
kids will not even take free equipment so I am selling the donations
to fund other projects in the school related to technology (which means
NOT ham radio).

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Prescott)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Q: Code practice on CD
Date: 2 Apr 1996 14:03:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4jrc2t$[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of Code practice on audio CD? I'm trying to study for
the code test, but I don't have a tape player in my car.

Prescott
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:23 1996
From: Dio <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSO logging programs
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 14:40:11 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Are there any QSO/contest logging programs available that make use
of the SoundBlaster card. I was watching a sation over the weekend
during the contest and they had a really nice program but it made
use of a proprietary audio card. I have and Intel/windows box and a
Mac. Either platform would be used for the logger.
Thanks,

73 DE KE6WEO
--
--Dio
Beacher Tool & Die
(A Hughe Jorgen Company)
1106 2nd St.
Suite 316
Encinitas, CA. 92024


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Darrell Earnshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSO logging programs
Date: 4 Apr 1996 15:00:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4k0o5u$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Dio <[e-mail]> s
ays:
>
>Are there any QSO/contest logging programs available that make use
>of the SoundBlaster card. I was watching a sation over the weekend
>during the contest and they had a really nice program but it made
>use of a proprietary audio card. I have and Intel/windows box and a
>Mac. Either platform would be used for the logger.
>Thanks,
>
>73 DE KE6WEO
>--

Yes. There's a Windows/Windows95 logging program called DX4WIN that
has the capability to announce DX cluster spots in audio. It s a very
comprehensive and powerful program. Unfortunately, it's pretty new to
the market, so it's not yet well known. If you want more details, drop
me a line.

- Darrell (NR3Y)

...and no, I don't have a commerical stake in the program.


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael W. Woolverton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSP on CW Issue - cw (1/1)
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 19:26:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4jpl1r$[e-mail]>

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From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (bob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: R.L.Drake Radio club on the Web
Date: 2 Apr 1996 22:10:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4js8k5$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

The Drake Amateur Radio Club can be found at w3.one.net/~sniper
***note w3 not www*** Become an Honorary Member....
Bob


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 10:28:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4jo7o5$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4j5nen$[e-mail]> <4jmsth$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]> wrote:

> [much drivel snipped] ...
> testis

Oi!  Less of that language here ....

:-))

73 de G3NYY
(de omni re scibili, et quibusdam aliis)

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:29 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 06:23:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4jqh00$[e-mail]>
References: <4j1egi$[e-mail]> <4jae28$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jhci0$[e-mail]> <4jk2r4$[e-mail]> <4jlcr2$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (William J. Graham) wrote:


>interestingly enough a friend who used to manage a company
>owned store once told me that he had be advised NOT to hire hams and
>others with knowledge of electronics and computers.

>Might tell the truth I guess <G>

>73

>Bill
>N5LMX/DA1WG

That's strange!  Who ever told him that was off base.  RS will give a
ham a name badge with his callsign on it if he/she wants it.  I know
that it made it easier for me to break the old "he's a $4.25/hr sales
droid" mentality.  I was *almost* sorry I had to give it up for one
that said manager instead.  Since I got my ticket a year ago, I've
encouaged several RS employees to get theirs (only one managed to do
it).  I don't encourage it for financial gain, but the day is much
more interesting when an "old timer" comes in and you spend an hour on
a slow day talking about equipment, QSOs or whatever.  I met my elmer
that way.

73s

Rodney, KB0SPZ



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Sheehan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 16:30:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4ju99v$[e-mail]>
References: <4j1egi$[e-mail]> <4jae28$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jhci0$[e-mail]> <4jk2r4$[e-mail]> <4jlcr2$[e-mail]> <4jqh00$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

>[e-mail] (William J. Graham) wrote:


>>interestingly enough a friend who used to manage a company
>>owned store once told me that he had be advised NOT to hire hams and
>>others with knowledge of electronics and computers.

>>Might tell the truth I guess <G>

>>73

>>Bill
>>N5LMX/DA1WG

>That's strange!  Who ever told him that was off base.  RS will give a
>ham a name badge with his callsign on it if he/she wants it.  I know
>that it made it easier for me to break the old "he's a $4.25/hr sales
>droid" mentality.  I was *almost* sorry I had to give it up for one
>that said manager instead.  Since I got my ticket a year ago, I've
>encouaged several RS employees to get theirs (only one managed to do
>it).  I don't encourage it for financial gain, but the day is much
>more interesting when an "old timer" comes in and you spend an hour on
>a slow day talking about equipment, QSOs or whatever.  I met my elmer
>that way.

>73s

>Rodney, KB0SPZ

Thank you Rodney. As an ex-Tandy guy with ten years in these guys
assume every thing I say is like being a homer. I was never
discouraged to hire electronics students, hams, etc. As a matter of
fact I was recruited at tech school!!! Your friend, Mr. Graham, has
done you a dis-service by telling you a lie. I know, I spent all of my
career opening stores in CLE which is where you are from acording to
your freenet address. I left because I switched to the business
products division which was disolved. Fortunately they had sent me to
several schools and trainings to prepare me to leave. (Kind of kills
two misrepresentations being spread about by a bunch of restless
college kids doesn't it!!)



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peter Thanh Khiet Vu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack: You got blank stares? Try hiring the knowledgable
Date: 4 Apr 1996 04:15:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4jvicf$[e-mail]>
References: <4jrbps$[e-mail]>
Keywords: radio shack

So far RS has been given a bad wrap here on the newsgroup.
There are a few guys abd gals that are really nice and help
with problems, but the few idiots that are out there give
you "good" RS salepersons a bad name.

For example, I came in RS one day to see what new items
had come in and to see if there were any out dated items
on sale.  Since I am still in college, I asked a few buddies
if they would like to come too.  So as wee looked around
the store, the salesidiot whispered to the other, "these
fools have nothing else to do but come here on a Friday
and hang out."  I was steamed because I was going to
buy a mini CB (50 milliwatt) for my nephews.  To my
anger, I didn't buy it!  I went to another store.
(Sagamore Pkw, West Lafayette, IN)

Another instance, a RS on Collisium Blvd. , Fort Wayne, IN.
I bought a car stereo that was on sale (new).  The radio
worked fine on tuner mode, but when I played the tape,
the right side did not work.  I tried multiple tapes, but
still the same.  My conclusion=it is broken.  When I went to
return the radio, the salesjerk said, "so did you cut the
wires and then resolder it to look new?" (sarcastically said).
That insulted my intelligence.  The guy accused me of cutting
the wire so that I could not return it.  The policy is that if
you cut the wires, then you have to keep it and they will only
repair it.

So the lesson is know your RS people and go back to the ones
that treat you nicely and stay away from the jerks!
RS products are ok, but then aain buyer beware.

Peter



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Johnha102)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack: You got blank stares? Try hiring the knowledgable
Date: 4 Apr 1996 15:23:38 -0500
Message-ID: <4k1b4a$[e-mail]>
References: <4jrbps$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Johnha102)

reminds me of a discussion i heard between a shack employee and a
customer, customer saw that 49mhz w.t was fm employee told him "yeah it
will pick up fm radio"
some people's kids


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:34 1996
From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio Shack: You got blank stares? Try paying enough to hire the knowledgable!
Date: 1 Apr 1996 18:40:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4jp7vq$[e-mail]>
Keywords: radio shack bozo stare


>interestingly enough a friend who used to manage a company
>owned store once told me that he had be advised NOT to hire hams and
>others with knowledge of electronics and computers.

>Might tell the truth I guess <G>

>73

>Bill
>N5LMX/DA1WG


  I worked for Radio Shack between 1978 and 1980. I quit because I
wasn't making any money! What makes you think that anybody with the
knowledge and experience to answer questions on computers, stereos,
CB and Ham equipment and many other things will work for the measley
salary that Radio Shack pays?

    People with this kind of knowledge are working at jobs that pay
between 40 and 80 thousand dollars a year. The kind of person who
lasts at Radio Shack IS A SALES PERSON, NOT AN ELECTRONICS
TECHNICIAN!!!

    Sales people only make significant mony by selling, not giving advice.
I would not trust the advice of any sales person who is working on
commission. It is usually BS!!!  Radio Shack is a sales oriented establishment
,
not a laboratory or scientific lab. That is why all the blank stares!!

   Now talk to a RS sales person about the difference between spiff
commission and regular commission and you will get some good answers!

73 from Steve



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark D. Fergus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack: You got blank stares? Try paying enough to hire the knowledgable!
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 02:44:24 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jp7vq$[e-mail]>
Keywords: radio shack bozo stare

I am an employee at RS store 01-4427 here in Columbus, Ohio.  I am also a ham
operator, and know quite a bit about communications and basic electronics.  I
am a student at Ohio State studying Electrical Engineering.

I will have to say that the pay could be better.  I realize that I could make
more money flipping burgers at the local McDonalds.  However, I enjoy working
at RS because I enjoy helping people, especially when it comes to ham radio
and scanners.  Yes, there are some products I don't know much about, like
security systems, but that's why we have four people work at my store.  They
know more about the products I don't know about, and I know more about the
products they don't know about.  We try to spread the knowledge.  Yes, the
goal is for all the employees to know about everything in the store, but that
takes time.  And sometimes people quit because of the pay or other reasons, so

we get a new person that doesn't know crap.

I will say that after working at this store a year, I have learned a lot about

our products and about helping customers.  I'm sure the skills I learn will be

beneficial in future jobs that I will have.  For now, I'm happy working at RS
as a part-timer.  It keeps me out of trouble, helps me budget my studying
time, helps me to deal with customers, and gives me some extra money on the
side.  BTW, I earn 5.5% commision per hour per week or $4.25 an hour,
whichever is higher, plus spiffs.  I get 1 week paid vacation, plus paid
holidays (even if I don't work that day, birthday included), a 10% employee
discount, optional health insurance, and access to the Tandy Stock plan.  I
usually average a gross pay around 4.75-5.00 an hour.

73's de N8VJF

Mark


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack: You got blank stares? Try paying enough to hire the knowledgable!
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 23:56:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4jse1g$[e-mail]>
References: <4jp7vq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Mark D. Fergus) wrote:

>I am an employee at RS store 01-4427 here in Columbus, Ohio.  I am also a ham

>operator, and know quite a bit about communications and basic electronics.  I

>am a student at Ohio State studying Electrical Engineering.

>I will have to say that the pay could be better.  I realize that I could make

>more money flipping burgers at the local McDonalds.  However, I enjoy working

>at RS because I enjoy helping people, especially when it comes to ham radio
>and scanners.  Yes, there are some products I don't know much about, like
>security systems, but that's why we have four people work at my store.  They
>know more about the products I don't know about, and I know more about the
>products they don't know about.  We try to spread the knowledge.  Yes, the
>goal is for all the employees to know about everything in the store, but that

>takes time.  And sometimes people quit because of the pay or other reasons, s
o
>we get a new person that doesn't know crap.

>I will say that after working at this store a year, I have learned a lot abou
t
>our products and about helping customers.  I'm sure the skills I learn will b
e
>beneficial in future jobs that I will have.  For now, I'm happy working at RS

>as a part-timer.  It keeps me out of trouble, helps me budget my studying
>time, helps me to deal with customers, and gives me some extra money on the
>side.  BTW, I earn 5.5% commision per hour per week or $4.25 an hour,
>whichever is higher, plus spiffs.  I get 1 week paid vacation, plus paid
>holidays (even if I don't work that day, birthday included), a 10% employee
>discount, optional health insurance, and access to the Tandy Stock plan.  I
>usually average a gross pay around 4.75-5.00 an hour.

>73's de N8VJF

>Mark

Hi Mark

Sorry they are paying you so little, the RS stores near me are much
higher.

I don't think RS is interested in technical sales, else, everytime
they have come up with a good product, they wouldn't have dropped it
soon afterwards so they had room to carry some useless trinket that
sells like hotcakes, just because it useless.

Over the years RS has, at one time or another, offered some very
excellent products, most of which I still have and use.
Unfortunately, they are in business to make a LARGE profit for their
investors, thus they only carry what moves the fastest at the time,
and with the highest profit margin.  In many cases, it has absolutely
nothing to do with the name of the store, like non-electronic toys,
etc.

Got to Go
Gary




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:38 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Repeater Frequencies????
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:15:05 GMT
References: <4jh0b0$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Brian Ward <[e-mail]> wrote:
>F.J. Finnie wrote:
>>
>> F.J. Finnie
>> [e-mail]
>>
>> HAM in distress,  I just got my HT after what seems like forever.
>> I need to get some repeater frequencies that are current on 2 meters.
>> I live in Matthews, Missouri.  I scan the frequencies and occasionally hear
>> a repeater, but I can't seem to get through.  My ARRL Repeater Directory is
>> on order, but I haven't recieved it yet. could one of you render assistance
>> in the interum??
>>
>> 73's
>>
>> KB0SOA
>
>Probably requires a CTCSS subaudible tone to be transmited to allow the
>repeater to key up.
>
>Try calling on 146.52 simplex to see if someone can help you...

On an HT, and in some areas without a lot of simplex activity, he may
not be able to raise anyone.

>The offsets are 600khz +- offsets, try checking that also...

Yes, you need to make sure you're transmitting on the correct input
frequency for the repeater you want.  In most areas your transmitter
needs to drop down 600 kHz if you are listening on 145.xx or 146.xx
but your transmitter needs to jump up 600 kHz if you are listening
on 147.xx.

If you are getting squelched because you're not sending the proper
PL tone (CTCSS), you can sometimes get in on the squelch tail of the
previous person's transmission.  If you wait until someone on the
repeater stops transmitting, then quickly send your call sign, the
local folks on the machine will realize that someone is trying to
get in, and will come back and tell you which tone is needed.

Or you could try the ARRL Repeater Directory; most areas have a "standard"
PL frequency which is used for all open machines.

Another tactic is to make your query on the repeater's output frequency,
but on an HT I don't think this will be very effective.

Another thing you can try is to find a machine that doesn't require a
PL and ask on that machine what the standard frequency is for your area.
Usually there is at least one machine out there that you can bring up
without PL.

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:40 1996
From: Chuck Penson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Sealed Lead Acid charger control circuit
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 14:20:49 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <UnJYxcGDhn/[e-mail]>

Bob Bergman wrote:
>
> I recently converted my station to run 100% from a 12v Sealed Gel Cell
> battery and have been looking for a control circuit design to properly
> charge the battery.

There is a simple charge controler detailed in the March(?) issue of
QST. It is designed for solar power use but would work just fine with a
conventional power supply. It's real simple. Have a look.

--

Chuck


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:41 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jens Goerke)
Subject: Re: Sealed Lead Acid charger control circuit
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <UnJYxcGDhn/[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:04:22 GMT

Bob Bergman ([e-mail]) wrote:

> I recently converted my station to run 100% from a 12v Sealed Gel Cell
> battery and have been looking for a control circuit design to properly
> charge the battery.  Has anyone come across such a printed design that
> could be faxed or ordered with the appropriate IC?

Depends on the capacity of your gel cells.

> I have a 10A-15A, 13.8vdc power supply that is very well
> regulated and filtered for the source.

If the current can be limited to 10-15% of the capacity of the gel cells,
you can use this power supply for trickle charging. Gel cells can be
fully charged with 14.4 volts and kept floating at 13.8 volts. I am
using a similar setup for 144 and 430:

transformer (20-22V) -> rectifier -> 7815 -> silicon diode -> 14.4 volts
switch across second diode -> 13.8/14.4 volts.

My gel cell has 9.5 Ah and the 7815 regulator has a maximum current
of 1.5 A, so the whole setup was really cheap and simple. If you need
schematics or further information, email me.

Hope that helps,
        Jens, DB9LL
--
Missing coffee error - operator halted.

This message may not be distributed via the Microsoft Network.


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Charles Hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 04:37:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4jqb06$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: choffman @pelican.davlin.net

BTW if there are observations of inappropriate use of the "severe
handicap" code waiver provision on applicaations  for FCC licenses
being exhibited in your area?

Here,  we do have individuals able to find hapless medical doctors
willing to approve the form for the license application for  medical
reasons,  cannot learn the code.  Reports locally I am told seem
somewhat minor, or at least not severe handicaps.

        One example is a guy (KC5QLI, advanced nocode license now) with a
hearing disorder he calls tinitius,  who is very active on the bands
and able to hear voice perfectly well, but cannot learn the code.
Since I have the same aflliction in my hearing and use high speed
daily for the last thirty years I don't really understand.  Is this a
unique medical situation, a general amateur radio issue or just an
isolated incident of abuse of the system?

I have disucssed the topic with licensed professional public school
administrators working in the field of special education,  who are
also licensed radio amateurs, who all say this situation is being
abused and the FCC provision  is clearly provided for persons with
SEVERE handicaps.

Is this a issue NOT about handicaps, but perhaps about sociopathic
individuals who want something for nothing?   In my personal radio
experience in the last four decades, the community has always risen to
the call of the handicapped (total loss of hearing, quads, strokes,
etc) with devices to assist and bridge the gap.  This has been a
personal pride of assisting and becoming involved with disabled
persons who, as a result, experience a real sense of accomplishment.

The new FCC form seems to allow a window of opportunity for the
advantaged to acquire, via a system to support the disadvantaged.  I
wonder if anyone has observed and considered the same concepts at play
and if in the affirmative, what should be done to correct any possible
unjustifiable benefits being derived via the oversight in this system?

Who should correct the situation if it needs to be adressed at all?
Many respected old timers in this area are very concerned with this
situation and feel there is an urgent need to clarify the admitance to
the testing room procedure, or to change the FCC rule on this or at
least change the FCC license application to indicate the explicit
nature of the intent of the rule for the "severe handicap".

Best regards,

K5SBU



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Date: 2 Apr 1996 15:25:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jrgta$[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]>

>Who should correct the situation if it needs to be adressed at all?

Why don't we just drop the code requirement to 5WPM for ALL...or, better
yet, eliminate it entirely?  That way, we wouldn't have to worry about
who's entitled to the "severe handicap" exclusion and who is not...while
simletaneously acknowledging that it is now 1996 and Morse Code no longer
has any relevant value as a mandated testing element.

Hey...that's a GREAT idea!


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:44 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:15:56 GMT
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <4jrgta$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>>Who should correct the situation if it needs to be adressed at all?
>
>Why don't we just drop the code requirement to 5WPM for ALL...or, better
>yet, eliminate it entirely?...

There are reasons for keeping the requirement as well as for dropping it,
but there is an overwhelming reason not to discuss it here: it is already
being debated on another thread.

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:46 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Kristin Rachael Hayward)
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:26:55 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) writ
es:
:Bart Jahnke ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
:: If you have information about possible abuses, forward that information
:: to the FCC.  The FCC requires first hand, factual information which may
:: bring into question the merits of a Physician's Certification.  Cases
:: must be individually addressed.  Send your information, in letter form,
:: with signature, to:
:
:We had a gentleman show up at our VE testing session last month with a
:waiver.  He had passed all code/theory elements except 1C, for which he had
:the waiver.
:
:One of our OT Extras, himself a VE, sternly challenged this individual.


I certainly hope this attitude is not common at VE sessions.

It is not up to *us* to challenge anyone. Why a person decided he/she
needed a waiver is none of our business. We are there to run the
session as professionally and as *courtesly* as possible.

:At first, I had trouble understanding the reason that anyone would want the
:Extra ticket if not to work CW...

Again, I don't see why it is our business or anyone's business as to
why people want a certain license.

If they have the waiver, we should treat the candidate politely, and
process the paperwork with nothing said.

WX9T



--
                    Kristin Rachael Hayward, PhD
    Director of Administrative Information Systems and Business Services
                        University of Maine
                http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:48 1996
From: Phil Keller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Shortwave etc database program....
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 16:33:50 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

And the Cost is ????

-Phil-

Charles Bolland wrote:
>
> Sir,
>
> A stand alone IBM compatible Broadcasting Radio Station Database
> program for Longwave, Mediumwave, or Shortwave.  4000 records...
> Completely read/write and updateable...
>
> If you'd like a copy, send your EMail address and Postal Address
> which will be used to pass you more detailed information on
> the full featured program....
>
> The above program will be sent via EMAIL...
>
> All information will be kept confidential....
>
> Chuck
>
> KA4PRF

--
====================================
"Those who avoid decapitation,
              leave more offspring."
    -Carl Sagan-
====================================
Phil Keller                    N6MWC
mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:48 1996
From: Tom Medlin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Take a look at my shack
Date: 2 Apr 1996 03:18:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4jq6a5$[e-mail]>

Just finished my first home page. click on my url to see a picture of
it.  http://www.cris.com/~tcmedlin



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:50 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Thanks for the 8 inch floppy help everyone.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 21:00:37 GMT
References: <4j3gn6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>tom borthwick wrote:
>>
>> I have leared alot. Thanks to everyone that responded. I have enough
>> info to keep me buisy for a while.
>> Thanks again,
>> Tom

>How many times do I have to read messages from hams that send a
>"Thank You" addressed to ALL.

That depends on your news reader.  You may be able to prevent
something as specific as that.

>When one seeks help and
>someone takes the time to respond, the least the receiver of
>help can do is send a simple individual reply for thanks.

From the above, I cannot tell that Tom has not done this.  Sometimes
when I have posted a question on the 'net (especially if I find out
later that it was a stupid question or easily looked up in Part 97)
the replies start coming in.  The tendency is to reply to your own
message with a followup similar to the above.  What it sounds like
Tom is saying here is that he doesn't need any more replies, he
has quite enough.  It doesn't mean he didn't reply to the ones who
helped him out.

>Would you at your wedding, if you were the groom, get up at the
>end of the reception and yell out, "Gee, Thanks everyone for the
>gifts?"

If everyone by some strange coincidence was giving me the same
toaster again and again, and I wanted politely to stop the flow
of toasters, maybe, NAAH, not even then.

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:51 1996
From: [e-mail](Jim Sheffield)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,
Subject: Re: The Free-Space Antenna
Date: 2 Apr 1996 05:19:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4jqdcd$[e-mail]>
References: <4joc0a$[e-mail]>

On Apr 01, 1996 10:44:19 in article <The Free-Space Antenna>,
'[e-mail] (A. Guru)' wrote:


>Try the free-
>space antenna today!
>
>A. Guru

Most inventive/ingenious April's Fool joke yet!!!


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TYPICAL CODE TESTS?
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 06:50:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4jqj55$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Post / CC by Mail

   John Robertson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Anyone able to provide some typical code test (text) for the EXTRA or
>a lead as to where to look. Any newsgroups focused on this?

I think SuperMorse generates simulated QSO's.  That's what's on the
test (at least when I took it).

Good luck with the upgrade. :)

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:53 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: TYPICAL CODE TESTS?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:12:12 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

John Robertson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Anyone able to provide some typical code test (text) for the EXTRA or
>a lead as to where to look....
>
>I have a code generator and would prefer to prep using something like
>the actual test-like transmissions.

At the faster speed there is definitely time enough for some actual
conversation to occur within the five minutes, whereas on the slow
Morse and moderate Morse tests the focus is on including all the
required elements and providing something that sounds like an amateur
transmission.  As I remember, the (pretend) sender spent a little time
describing his equipment and made a little small talk.  I remember him
mentioning that he had listened to a certain SW broadcast station the
night before.  This was around 1989.

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Zak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: UHF FM commercial transceiver modules
Date: 3 Apr 1996 02:38:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4jsoal$[e-mail]>

I am working on an AVLS project in Asia that may require up
to several thousand units and I have been let down badly by a
supplier.

Actually, we are using a conventional VF transceiver in the
range 460-490 Mhz, up to 5 Watts FM.  This is the 'let down' product.
Synthesized, 12.5 Khz steps programmable using jumpers or RS232
download of frequencies.

Can use a modified OEM board from a commercial hand-held transceiver.
Don't need speaker, mic, chassis etc. just the board.

Does Anybody manufacture or supply an equivalent radio ?  We need it
to be about 100 x 90 x 20 mm (not including BNC female connector).

Our requirement is for 3000 units by 1 June 96.

This is as serious as a heart attack, because our supplier
was supposed to have 4 samples ready on the 8th of February.
As I type this, we are still looking at 3 weeks delay before
we get even the SAMPLES !  So basically we are crippled by the lack
of a suitable UHF radio.

Please get back to me at your convenience.

Regards,

Zak Madden
Snr. Communications Engineer
Sakina Technologies

email: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:55 1996
From: SCJONES@
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Vanity Callsigns/Unused Callsign list on internet
Date: 2 Apr 1996 21:58:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4js7up$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: SCJONES@

Anyone seen a listing of expired callsigns which might be available for vanity
 use?
I ran across one in last week but can't remember where.  Thought it might be a
t
fcc but guess not.
Maybe at a man's homepage in TX or NM or ? I think???
I was looking for a copy of SuperMorse and/or NuMorse when I ran across it I
believe.
Thanks,
Steve




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:56 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Web Site CORRECTION
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 16:08:12 EDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>




I'll get it right oneday !

CORRECTION !!!!

www.moonstar.com/~wa4pgm/welcome




From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Don Montgomery)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Z Signals
Date: 1 Apr 1996 17:24:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4jp3fr$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnck0$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
> Does anyone have a list of the Z-signals (on-line would be nice!) that are

This was called the ACP-131 when I was in the military.  Maybe the
reference section of your local library has one.

73
Don Montgomery, K6LTS
[e-mail]
Pfc (Ret) USA SigC



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Kolb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Z Signals
Date: 2 Apr 1996 00:00:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4jpqn6$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnck0$[e-mail]> <4jphta$[e-mail]>

Mike Keitz ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4jnck0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
: >
: >Does anyone have a list of the Z-signals (on-line would be nice!) that are

Don't know if it was really in the offical list, but as a Navy
Radioman, we used ZLF to indicate a operator with a poor "fist"

ZLH - now send with your Left Foot.

John Kolb KK6IL



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Keitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Z Signals
Date: 1 Apr 1996 21:30:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4jphta$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnck0$[e-mail]>

In article <4jnck0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
>
>Does anyone have a list of the Z-signals (on-line would be nice!) that are
>(were?) used by the military on CW networks where amateurs use Q-signals?
>It's been years since I was active in MARS; are they even still in use?

A few years ago, another set of Z-signals for amateur use was proposed in
QST (April 1, I believe).  For example:

ZSH - Do you have a hat with your name and callsign on it? / I have a hat
       with my name and callsign on it.
ZST - Did you see _______ on TV last night? / I saw _______ on TV last
       night.

I only remember those two; but there was about half a page of them and they
were quite funny.  Also some abbreviations for sending common rag-chewing
phrases on CW were suggested.

-Mike KD4QDM



From [e-mail] Fri Apr 05 17:17:59 1996
From: eugene@ loop.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Z Signals
Date: 3 Apr 1996 04:13:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jstsd$[e-mail]>
References: <4jp3fr$[e-mail]>

>   [e-mail] (Don Montgomery) writes:
>  [e-mail] wrote:
>  > Does anyone have a list of the Z-signals (on-line would be nice!) that ar
e
>
>  This was called the ACP-131 when I was in the military.  Maybe the
>  reference section of your local library has one.
>
>  73
>  Don Montgomery, K6LTS
>  [e-mail]
>  Pfc (Ret) USA SigC
>
>
>>>>
BOY THEY USED TO BE FUN TO TRY AND STUMP THE GUY AT THE OTHER END.  ON TTY I U
SED TO SEND A Z PROSIGN
INSTEAD OF QRV, I USED A Z SIGN THAT MEANT "YOU ARE CLEARED FOR IMMEDIATE TAKE
OFF", SURE CONFUSED SOME
OF THE NAVY SHIPS I WAS RUNNING TRAFFIC TO!

DE WB6HRO


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Luke Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 200 Mhz
Date: Sun,  7 Apr 1996 19:07:44 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world
References: <4k14kb$[e-mail]>

    Didn't parts of the 220 Mhz band get reassigned to some mobile
radiotelephone service?
                                  -Luke


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:18 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joe Mack)
Subject: Announcement: Azimuthal Equidistant Projection Map Server
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 19:45:06 GMT

Announcement: Azimuthal Equidistant Projection Map Server

is at

http://www.xray.duke.edu:1080/


This server will generate on-line X11 or
downloadable GIF azimuthal equidistant maps according
to your specifications (QTH, scale...). The server
uses the GPL'ed package azproj10.zip, written by
Michael NV3Z and myself, and which is available from

nic.funet.fi/pub/ham/antenna
and
oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/dos/ham-utils


73 de Joe NA3T
FM19gq
[e-mail]



------------------------------------------------------------

Here is the README file from AZPROJ


        Azproj v1.0 is a collection of postscript files and data
files for generating azimuthal equidistance projections of the earth
from (almost) any point on earth. It can plot color maps of the
surface of the earth on any scale, draw and/or label grid squares,
show worked grid squares on a band(s) of your choice, dxcc
countries (and countries worked an a particular mode, eg CW/SSB),
mountain tops, rovers, repeaters, beacons and can use NMEA input
from a GPS receiver to center the map.

        Azproj can be run on ANY computer (Mac, PC/DOS/Win/DVX, Unix)
and output to a postscript device (printer, ghostscript runing on a
unix or DOS machine with a  ghostscript compatible printer, eg
HPcolor inkjets). Ghostscript will also allow display of the maps
on screens.

        Although a rudimentary understanding of postscript will
help in running azproj, sample .bat files are supplied to make
initial maps and it should be possible to make simple changes to
the az_ini.ps and *.bat files to get the maps you want.

        To display the maps on a screen or to use a
non-postscript printer, you should first obtain ghostscript
(available for PC (DOS, Win, DesqViewX) or Unix) from your
favorite ftp site (try ftp.cs.wisc.edu/pub/ghost)

        The azproj files are GNU copylefted.

        Joe Mack NA3T, [e-mail], [e-mail]

        and

        Michael Katzmann NV3Z, [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dungeon Master)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: any CB users?
Date: 3 Apr 1996 14:39:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4jur5l$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Valerie Hanson) wrote:

>I work for a market research company, and we are doing a project that may
>involve the use of CB's.  Anyone out there who uses/is knowledgeable about CB
>radios?  Time is short-I'd like to get your ideas ASAP.

Perhaps I could help you.

Ask away.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:21 1996
From: Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat,de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: AO-27 Operational?
Date: 7 Apr 1996 20:43:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4k99d1$qds$[e-mail]>

Yesterday (Saturday 07 APR) I tried to receive the AO-27 downlink
on 436.800 MHz, but didn't hear anything. I listened from 0900
local time to 1800 using a Radio Shack PRO-2006 scanner in FM
narrow mode. The receiver was programmed to search from
436.750-436.850 MHz in 5 KHz increments. The antenna was an
outdoor sloping dipole for 35 MHz (it works from 30-950 MHz).
Also, my squelch was set very low so a weak signal would break
squelch.

Any idea what the problem is?

Brian Webb, KD6NRP


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:22 1996
From: Andrew Mitchell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: APRS and 50 MHz Propagation
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 18:06:01 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm interested in hearing from anyone who may be using or is interested
in using APRS as a method of monitoring propagation on 50 MHz.

Is there anyone operating APRS on 50 MHz?  If so, what frequency are you
using?

73,

Andy


--

"The brain is wonderful; it starts working the moment you get up and
doesn't stop until you get to the office."
- Robert Frost

Andrew Mitchell, VA3CW - Barrie, ON  CANADA
[e-mail]
(ax.25) va3cw @ ve3fjb.#con.on.can.noam


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:23 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLP014 Propagation de KT7H
Date: 6 Apr 1996 18:13:59 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP014
ARLP014 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP35
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 14  ARLP014
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  April 6, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP014
ARLP014 Propagation de KT7H

Solar activity remains very low.  Two days last week, March 30 and
31, had a zero sunspot count, and as this bulletin is being written
a week later the Sun is again spotless.

Over the next few weeks expect the solar flux to remain near 70,
with possible mild geomagnetic disturbances centered around April 7
and April 17.

20 meters is the best daytime band, with the solar activity being
too low to sustain much propagation on 15 meters or higher
frequencies.  40 meters is the best band for worldwide
communication at night, with low solar activity making this the
best time of the solar cycle for 160 meters.

Regarding the end of this solar cycle and progress toward the next
one, the latest projections based upon current conditions and
previous solar cycles suggest that for the next few months we will
be at the sunspot number minimum.   The minimum is centered around
April through June of this year, with sunspot numbers reaching the
Fall 1995 levels in February 1997.

Previous bulletins have mentioned a 10.7 cm solar flux minimum
centered around Spring of 1997, but the latest projection moves
that period up a bit toward the current period.  What it shows is a
minimum based on an average flux of 72 for October 1996 through
February 1997, with the flux also averaging 72 for June 1996.  The
projected flux for the dates in between is 73.

Spring of 1998 should present a radically different picture.  By
then the average flux will be climbing toward 100, and 10, 12 and
15 meters should be alive with activity again.  In April 1999 the
average solar flux is projected at 158, and 192 is the value for
April 1999.  The next cycle is projected to peak around the turn of
the century in August, 2000.

Sunspot Numbers for March 28 through April 3 were 24, 22, 0, 0, 13,
14 and 14, with a mean of 12.4.  10.7 cm flux was 71.9, 70.5, 70.2,
70.1, 68.2, 70.7 and 71.1, with a mean of 70.4.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:24 1996
From: Vincent Biancomano <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 5 Apr 1996 17:47:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4k3mao$[e-mail]>
References: <4ju2mp$[e-mail]> <4k0ofj$6ve$[e-mail]>

In response to Hans Brakob, who writes:
>Vince is an editor, not a reporter.

The job of editor, writer, and reporter all go into one in my
particular case, Hans, and have for 20 years. It's unfortunate
for you, but it's a problem you will have to live with. When
you can provide evidence that the documentation I've provided
is incorrect, then you will have a case. Otherwise, I must
assume you are just another ARRL representative seeking no
real solutions to the problems at hand, only singing the
company line.

Regards,
Vince, WB2EZG
Life Member, ARRL



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:25 1996
From: Vincent Biancomano <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 5 Apr 1996 14:51:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4k3c1d$[e-mail]>
References: <4jou0g$[e-mail]> <4k0o7p$6ve$[e-mail]>


 The ENTIRE exchange of the earlier message posted by Hans Brakob:

  Vince writes:
 >There is likely to be an even larger gap between those
 >in the Amateur Service when and if a no-code HF license
 >becomes law.

 (To Vince): Two points:

 1) This "gap" is self imposed.
 2) It is rarely observed on the air, but permeates cyberspace.
    (Maybe it's a "cyber" gap and not a "real" gap.)


 Hans:
 It matters not whether the gap is self imposed or not. You'll
 have to cut to the chase, as you suggested several days ago,
 and collect "the best minds in ham radio" to secure a solution.
 The situation as it stands at this moment is out of hand.
 Fix it, or at least set up the mechanism to fix it. The time
 for fooling with this issue is over. No more time left!

 Regards,
 Vince, WB2EZG





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:26 1996
From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 8 Apr 1996 07:25:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4kaf0u$[e-mail]>
References: <4jng2i$[e-mail]>

In <4jng2i$[e-mail]>
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>
> In response to Gary Coffman:
> "Above 144 MHz" in my previous posting was intended to mean "220 MHz
and above."
>  My reference was to the BAND, not the upper limit of frequencies.
>
>  Regards,
>  Vince, WB2EZG

Vince ol' Buddy,

I notice you now post from Compuserve this peaks my interest. Did the
IEEE toss you for excessive nitwitery? Just curious. By the way I did
pass the code, biggest waste of time in my life. It sickens me to think
of all the technical stuff I could have been doing in that wasted time.
Now I think I will waste some time working to get the band plans
changed. CW has far more bandwidth than it deserves. Based bandwidth
required and number of actual users I think a 20% CW/ 80% other modes
is more equitable. This seems like a good place for me to expend some
of my excessive political energy.

                            CUL 73 de KC5EGG\AA


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Compare Rig Prices TODAY @ http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html
Date: 6 Apr 1996 06:25:14 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The Raymond Sarrio Company's Ham Radio WWW site is proud to announce a
FREE Ham Radio classified advertising page at
http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html.

This new classified section will allow Hams to search for equipement with
the help of a search engine--no need to scroll through 100's of listing
before you find that special piece of gear. Plus, when you find the gear
your interested in, each listing comes with point-and-click e-mail access,
direct to the Ham that listed the item.

For those Hams with gear to sell, take note! It is absolutely FREE to list
your equipment within Ham Classifieds, and there will be no posting time
delays.  Your posting will go on-line, in our classified search engine,
immediately. All you need do is fill out a simple forms page, and upon its
(point-and-click) submission, your "For Sale" advertisement is on-line
within 1 hour. I will be purging the classified listing initially about
once every month, but that timeline will shorten as our classified numbers
go up. Give it a try, and let me know how you like it. 73's Ray
--
The Raymond Sarrio Co. a full feature Ham Radio Storefront on tth WWW at http:
//www.csz.com/sarrio in association with Brillar Enterprises http://win-win.co
m/brillar an Extensive Discount CD-Rom Catalog!



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Connecticut QSO Party May 4-5, 1996
Date: 4 Apr 1996 18:26:42 -0500
Message-ID: <4k1lri$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)

           1996 CONNECTICUT QSO PARTY - OPERATING RULES

Connecticut QSO party, sponsored by the Candlewood ARA, 2000Z
May 4 until 2000Z  May 5, with a rest period 0400Z - 1200Z.
Phone, RTTY and CW.

Work stations once per band and mode, mobiles as they cross
county lines. No repeater QSOs.

Single operator, fixed/mobile, Novice, QRP(5W), Multi-single
Multi-multi classes plus Connecticut club competition.

Connecticut stations may contact other Connecticut stations for
QSO/multiplier credit.

Connecticut stations exchange report and county; others exchange
report and state/province/DXCC country.

CW - 40 KHz. up from lower band edges; Novices 25 KHz. up from
low end; Phone - 1.860, 3.915, 7.280, 14.280, 21.380 28.380. VHF
- 50.150, 144.200, 146.580.  RTTY - Normal RTTY Bands (No WARC
Bands)

Score one point per phone, RTTY QSO and two points per CW QSO.
QSOs with club station W1QI and ARRL HQ station W1AW count 5
points.

Connecticut stations multiply QSO points by states/
provinces/Connecticut counties worked (DX only one multiplier);
others multiply by Connecticut counties worked.

Plaques and certificates (100 point minimum). Special certificate
for working all 8 Connecticut counties.

Send entry and SASE for results by June 5 to CARA, P.O. Box 3441,
Danbury CT 06813-3441.

Good luck and 73 de Jim, KD1YV


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Derry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQ, CQ, CQ...
Date: 4 Apr 1996 13:56:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4k0ke2$[e-mail]>

Howdy,

Now there's this bunch of no-code techs telling us that you can't call CQ
anymore.  My advice to you is to just ignore these archaic calls and let
the caller be answered by someone who knows what it means.

My favorite is the person who answers your CQ with,  "How can I help you?"

My reply is, "You can mow my yard, rotate my tires, and loan me some
money."

73 de Jack, K9CUN

==================================================================

"A handie talkie and a belt clip is not an amateur radio station."

                                                    - Anon.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Garver)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CQ, CQ, CQ...
Date: 9 Apr 1996 15:29:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4kdvp1$[e-mail]>
References: <4k0ke2$[e-mail]>

>Howdy,
Howdy yerself.  I just had to answer yer CQ...

>Now there's this bunch of no-code techs telling us that you can't call CQ
>anymore.

Well, way back in 1973... some guy pulled up to the shop who knew I was a
ham and showed me his new mobile radio.  "Works through repeaters", he told
me.  So I grabbed the mic and spewed out about 15 CQ's followed by my call
sign.  Some guy comes on and tells me about how I'm not supposed to be
calling CQ and should simply say my callsign followed by 'monitoring'. Once.
I was not impressed.  Didn't seem like no ham radio to me.
So I don't think you can blame it all on the godless techs, Jack.


>"A handie talkie and a belt clip is not an amateur radio station."

Nope.  You need a gun too, according to Burt.


73 de WA7LDV



--
[e-mail]                             I don't speak for Intel


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:31 1996
From: Jim Reid <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE:CW and HF FASC Committee
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 13:02:45 -1000
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Bob,

Pleased about your reaction.  It is good that among the committee
are both New Zealand and Aussies hams;  the chairman is a VK.  And the
French are very anti-NZART.  So,  if enuf pressure to retain CW
were to come from US hams to the ARRL,  I  believe they will
suppot its retention as a req.  One responder has ventured the
thot that EU will, in fact,  be the deciding opinion;  and that
they will insist on keeping the CW req for HF operations rights
and be willing to give it up ONLY at the cost of more amateur
frequency bandwidth at or around 5 and 7 mHz, and the retention
for many years of set aside CW mode bandwidth,  regardless of the
req for CW skill as a license priviledge at HF.  Am sure many
such suggestions will come forward over the next couple of
years.

73,  Jim, AH6NB



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 09:03:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4kakto$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]><[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]><4ju4em$[e-mail]> <4k0e3j$[e-mail]><[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Patrick Wilson) wrote:

>And since the internet is open and
>not censored, **** em.  I wouldn't say that on two meters, ten
>meters or even 20 meters, but it is NOT against the policy here, I
>believe.

You bet you wouldn't say it on the air, or you would have an FCC
citation in the mail next morning .... yes, even in your beloved "Land
of the Free".

As someone has already pointed out, the US Constitution's First
Amendment does not apply in the United Kingdom.  As its principal use
nowadays seems to be to justify antisocial behaviour (and just plain
rudeness), I think we are fortunate in *not* having a First Amendment
here!

73 de G3NYY
(who is old-fashioned enough to believe that the indiscriminate use of
four-letter expletives demonstrates a lamentable lack of literacy)

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:34 1996
From: Frank Erskine <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:39:43 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Patrick Wilson <[e-mail]>
writes
>I wouldn't say that on two meters, ten
                            ~~~~~~
>meters or even 20 meters, but it is NOT against the policy here, I
 ~~~~~~            ~~~~~~
>believe.

Are these similar to voltmetres? ;-)
--
Frank Erskine
Sunderland


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:35 1996
From: David Hough <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 18:10:07  GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]><[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]><4ju4em$[e-mail]> <4k0e3j$[e-mail]><f8XlRAAM0QZxEw0q

In article <4kakto$[e-mail]>
   [e-mail] (Walt Davidson) writes:
>
> 73 de G3NYY
> (who is old-fashioned enough to believe that the indiscriminate use of
> four-letter expletives demonstrates a lamentable lack of literacy)
>
I'm not old-fashioned but I agree with the above statement. I don't
always agree with Walt but he has my support on this one!

Dave
--
[e-mail]
Any advice above is worth what I paid for it.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:36 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]><[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]><4ju4em$[e-mail]> <4k0e3j$[e-mail]><[e-mail]> <[e-mail]><
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 22:18:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????

I couldn't agree with you more.  The only other place in the world
I would like to live is in Great Britian.  Of course, they never
use adjectives or adverbs that are not to a particular liking.
But, bugger the hole bunch. I bet I could find a few expletives
deleted somewhere in the old monarchy.  What say you?



>You bet you wouldn't say it on the air, or you would have an FCC
>citation in the mail next morning .... yes, even in your beloved "Land
>of the Free".

Not sure that would happen here gov.  The Land of the Free, as you
call it, has slipped to a new low in policing the air.  Seems the
old first ammendment is rearing it's ugly head there too.
Wondering if fornication or (FUCK, for the less intelligent) is
really pornography or just in the mind. Seems to be in the ear/eye
of the beholder

>
>As someone has already pointed out, the US Constitution's First
>Amendment does not apply in the United Kingdom.  As its principal use
>nowadays seems to be to justify antisocial behaviour (and just plain
>rudeness), I think we are fortunate in *not* having a First Amendment
>here!

I think you are lucky, then we would have 'ad to come up with
something else to fight about, wouldn't we?

>
>73 de G3NYY
>(who is old-fashioned enough to believe that the indiscriminate use of
>four-letter expletives demonstrates a lamentable lack of literacy)
>
>--
>Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
>                                    [e-mail]

I agree, the indiscriminate use is poor taste.  However the
discriminate use is very handy, wouldn't you say?






From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 3 Apr 96 13:46:21 CDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]> <4jb82l$[e-mail]> <4jopht$[e-mail]>

In article <4jopht$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David) writes
:

>So why did someone reply back to my original posting saying things
>should be back like the good old days then? Seems to me you have to be a
>stereotype to operate a ham radio? That's what I mean!!

Maybe because in the 'good old days', Ham Radio was a 'Gentlemans
Hobby'. Ham Radio Operators treated each other with courtesy and tact.
If this is a 'stereotype', then it's one that I hope I'm still equated
to.

Obviously this is no longer true (just listen to 80m on a 'good night').
Sad, but true.

> So don't go twisting my words around and making me into things I am
> not for you must be a so-called bigot too then, won't you?

I don't think anyone is trying to 'twist' your words. You are making
yourself clear enough. You seem to only wish to hear what you 'want' to
hear and don't seem to be too interested in others points of view.

You need to keep an open mind and not take 'rantings' personally.


--------

   John Rice -  K9IJ       | "I speak for myself, not my employer".
   [e-mail]         |  Miracles, Magic and Sleight-of-hand done here.
   [e-mail]          |  Licensed since 1959
   (708)-438-5065 - (bbs ) |  Ex: K8YZR, KH6GHC, WB9CSP, W9MMB, WA1TXV



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:40 1996
From: David Husband <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:07:40 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <4k0e3j$[e-mail]>, David <[e-mail]>
writes
>I've been watching you around this newsgroup.
>You read what other people have to say and then you say something like
>more people ought to have some respect and manners on here.
>
>Walt, you are the ****ing Percy sugden of the Internet.
>
>You are sucha hypocritical bastard!!!
other abuse snipped..

I don't know what is accepted on rec.radio.amateur.misc, but I don't
think what you have said above is really acceptable in uk.radio.amateur

What you said does not offend me personally, but it does create a very
bad impression of yourself and I don't think others want this sort of
silly outburst posted in this group. (uk.radio.amateur)

I've been around in radio for a long time (I don't regard myself as an
"old fart" at 42, but these things are all relative...) and you have to
learn to tolerate other people's position and views --- hard, sometimes,
I know -- and try to keep a sense of humour....   That's what Amateur
Radio and The Internet is all about..

I can't help noticing that people who are afraid of revealing their
identities are very often abusive...

Go and have a lie down in a darkened room for an hour or so and you will
soon feel better.... !!

Regards..
--
David Husband, G8HJT, Portland, Dorset      01305 826900      0973 625969



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:41 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Message-ID: <4k04tb$[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (David)
Date: 4 Apr 1996 09:31:23 GMT
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <4jiikb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (R. D. Davis)
 says:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Edward Stafford  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>A.R. Duell wrote:
>>snip
>>>
>>> AFAIK there's no practical in the Radio Amateur Exam in the UK. There is
>>> (I think) in the novice test, but not for the full thing. IMHO this is
>>> wrong....
>>> If you think it is wrong why did you write it? Are you trying to say
>>that you disagree? What are you doing at Cambridge? Are you making a
>>delivery? Are there no longer any literacy requirements for entrance?
>
>Mr. Stafford, I think that you're unfairly misjudging Mr. Duell; if
>you were familiar with the many excellent postings of his to various
>Usenet newsgroups, you'd not have posted the above reply.  We're most
>fortunate to have people with his technical expertise here posting to
>Usenet newsroups, who are very helpful to others.  Cambridge is most
>fortunate to have him there.  In the future, please kindly reserve
>your snide flames for those those who deserve them.
>
>--
>R. D. Davis  *  http://www.access.digex.net/~rdd    \Computer preservationist
.
>Home: [phone] * Eccentrics have more fun! :-)\Unwanted systems gladly
>Unconventional Computer Consulting & PERQ Software,   \disassembled, removed
>divs. of Transpower Industries, Inc. [phone]   \for free and preserve
d.

I agree completely with what RD Davis has said above. I'm the guy who original
ly enquired if teh test has any practical work.
If it wasn't for the likes of A R Durell replying to me both in this newsgroup
 and personally through e-mail then I'd
be a lot more in the dark concerning the requirents of the test than I am
now. Someone takes the time and trouble to reply and help a fellow radio enthu
siast in need and the only thing other people
can do except saying 'Well done' is critiscise him. Come on fellas, tht's just
 not on, especially
in a serious newsgroup like this one.

If you want to make those sort of childish remarks save it for the newsgroup w
hich talks about
childrens television.

David.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:43 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Message-ID: <4k0e3j$[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (David)
Date: 4 Apr 1996 12:08:19 GMT
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <4ju4em$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Walt Davidso
n) says:
>
>[e-mail]:
>
>>If I do release my individuality onto here then I'll get a stream
>>of old farts telling me that I ought to do this or I ought to do
>>that. I'm not that kinda guy. I am shy, quiet and anonymous. That is the
>>essence of what i am.
>
>What you are?   A coward?
>
>Yes, well like all anonymous letters, your posting went straight into my
>electronic waste paper basket.
>

>--
>Walt Davidson

So Mr. Walt Davidson you like putting things in the waste paper basket
that you don't agree with. I've been watching you around this newsgroup.
You read what other people have to say and then you say something like
more people ought to have some respect and manners on here.

Walt, you are the ****ing Percy sugden of the Internet.

You are sucha hypocritical bastard!!!

To anyone who doesn't believe what I have just said read the following which i
s an extract from a
typical Walt Davidson reply:


"Don't you know what a kill-file is?

A heavy iron file, used for killing precocious 11-year-old readers of
obscene radio-related news articles?"

--
So Mr Walt Davidson, you like to spout off at other people, but you say things
like this - about killing 11 year old precocious children with heavy iron file
s.

Are you fucking thick or something. We've just had the Dunblane massacre where
19 children were killed and 10 others seriously injured by a middle-aged self-
confessed homosexual pervert. A strong feeling tells me you fall into this cat
egory.

you come on here telling other people off and then you go and saying something
 as
bloody insensitive as that!

Anybody who wants to read the original article posted by this middle aged PRAT
 with
tendencies of violence can read it in this newsgroup just to see what sort of
a man
this Walt Davidson really is. The article number is 47545.

So Mr fucking ******* Walt Davidson. In an earlier article you accused me of b
eing
anti-social. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO'S ANTI-SOCIAL JUST LOOK IN THE FUCKING MI
RROR!

I'm sorry about the language I've used in this posting, but its deemed to be n
ecessary
because the sooner people like Walt Davidson are ejected from serious subject
newsgroups
like this where people come to talk about ham radioand not about killing 11 ye
ar olds
with iron files the sooner we'll have more people looking in on here.

Oh yes, one last thing before I go Mr. Walt Davidson. You said in an article e
arlier that
radio should be for the young and old alike. So what are you doing saying
you want to kill eleven year old children with an iron-file?

You probably only want to kill children because they won't succumb to your per
verse
sexual practises!!!

Honestly people like you making me ******* sick!

David.

AKA The Walt Davidson fuck off support group.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:44 1996
From: lskip
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code
Date: 2 Apr 1996 18:17:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4jrr0a$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>


>  I view ham radio as providing very little in *real* public service.  Those
>  days are far in the past.  Parades and track meets, etc. went on perfectly
>  well before we developed 2m FM.
>

Ken,

Sorry that this has evidently happened in your area. However, you should remem
ber that it may not be the same
elsewhere.  Here in Idaho in the last several years, we have been providing NE
EDED communication help.  During one
widlfire season two years ago, the Forest Service asked for our help.  This, e
ven though the location was a relatively
short distance from the National Interagency Fire Center with its state-of-the
-art communications equipment.  We have
also helped during other bad wildfire seasons, and provided the main communica
tions in some areas during the recent
floods.  We have also been asked by the National Weather Service, as well as v
arious search-and-rescue and
law-enforcement groups, to assist with communications.    Possibly you just li
ve in the wrong part of the country.

73,
  Skip
      KL7IXX





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Claude Frantz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: German Hamfest
Date: 1 Apr 96 09:10:05 GMT
Message-ID: <claude.828349805@bauv111>
References: <4jgo0n$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (William J. Graham) writes:

>Would someone tell me when the big German hamfest is this year?

It is 28 to 30 June in Friedrichshafen. Another one is in autumn
in Weinheim.
--
Claude
([e-mail])
The opinions expressed above represent those of the writer
and not necessarily those of her employer.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:46 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus)
Subject: Re: Glass Mounted Mobile Antennas?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4k19pc$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 01:37:24 GMT

[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:

> What a great idea!  I'm amazed that I never thought of that!

> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-

Somehow, it doesn't amaze us at all.

--
 Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA  |  "It is difficult to imagine our
Internet: [e-mail]       |  universe run by a single omni-
 US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749   |  potent god. I see it more as a
   Phone: [phone]               |  badly run corporation."



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Good Logging Program?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Joe Paricka)
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 23:11:50 GMT

  Can anyone refer me to a good HF QSO logging program that is
accessable for download from the internet?  It can be DOS, or Windows.
Any information will be appreciated!  Thanks and 73's

N0ZYA   <<CW fer LIFER>>


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Roy Lewallen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GPS - ACCURACY
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 96 19:10:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4k3r5g$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jqm3j$[e-mail]> <4jshon$[e-mail]>

In article <4jshon$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Andrew OBrien) wrote:

>The US Govt announced via VP Al Gore that they will stop the military
>error encoding for commercial/amateur use of GPS in 4-5 years time.

And this makes everyone happy. The civilian users are happy because they
think SA will actually be terminated. The military is happy because it
isn't. And the political administration is happy because they'll be out of
office when the time is up so they don't have to keep (or be blamed for not
keeping) their promise. And nothing actually has to be done. A win-win-win.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (SandDRal)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff
Date: 1 Apr 1996 20:30:28 -0500
Message-ID: <4jpvvk$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (SandDRal)

Todate the 800 phone number is not working, good luck.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Luke Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Bands
Date: Sun,  7 Apr 1996 19:16:22 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

    This is probably listed in the FAQ for this newsgroup, (I don't
know where to find a copy of the FAQ since I receive just a usenet
feed, but anyhow....
    What are the ham bands available and what modes can you transmit on
them.
                                       -Luke


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:50 1996
From: tom Medlin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Bands
Date: 8 Apr 1996 19:03:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4kbnun$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

There are a lot of ham bands and it also depends on what type license you
have ast to which ones you can use and what modes of operation you can
use. if you are just inquiring as to what modes you will hear, you will
hear ssb, cw, and maybe very few am on the hf bands 3.5-4.0 mhz, 7.0-7.3
mhz, 14.0-14.350 mhz, 21.0-21.350mhz, 28.0-28.5 mhz. on the vhf bands
50mhz and higher you will find fm, ssb and packet.  you can go to my home
page and it has links to amateur radio that will help you get better and
more detailed info on this.  go to http://www.cris.com/~tcmedlin



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Hopkins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Radio & The American Red Cross
Date: 4 Apr 1996 22:57:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4k1k52$[e-mail]>

Hi. I'm giving a talk later this year on the general subject of how Ham Radio
and the Red Cross can work together during disaster. If you have either
specific experience or thoughts on the subject, I'd love to hear from you.

Just drop me an e-mail and thanks for your help!


Ken WA9WCP




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 7 Apr 1996 08:35:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4k7uo8$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jjg2r$[e-mail]>

Tim Hynde ka8ddz qrp/Rochester, MI ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Right on! I got into radio because I had an interest in short wave and
: communications, not because someone "sold" it to me. Why are so many
: pre-occupied with marketing our hobby? Are they having trouble drumming
: up a QSO on 40m?

: Tim, ka8ddz

No touble drumming up QSO's Tim. The ARRL, W5YI, Gordon West and a bunch
of other people are just looking for some new suckers, opps, I mean
customers........

73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:53 1996
From: CrACKeD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 5 Apr 1996 20:41:01 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


> >Really?  Well, I guess no-coders like me (who participate in community
> >service events often as well as club activities) are pretty worthless,
> >eh?  Get a clue.
>
> You could do the same with a CB radio or a GMRS HT. According to
> Part 97.1, having been awarded an amateur license is supposed to
> imply something about one's technical ability, not yaking on a
> rptr.

And there is no reason to say no-coders have limited technical ability.
Take me for example.  The reason why I see it pointless to upgrade is
because I don't like HF.  That's basically all upgrading gives you extra
privledges for.  Of course, I'm just going to upgrade for the heck of it,
maily because of people like yourself who look at no-coders as morons.

> Why the silencer?

So nobody will hear me when...well, nevermind.

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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:54 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham WWW Home Pages
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 96 12:11:32 EDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>


In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
> Path: news1.mnsinc.com!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!n
ews.fgi.net!usenet
> From: "Brian D. Morgan" <[e-mail]>
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Ham WWW Home Pages
> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 09:48:34 -0800
> Organization: Internet Consultants of Springfield
> Lines: 10
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
> Reply-To: [e-mail]
> NNTP-Posting-Host: nb215.fgi.net
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0B2 (Win16; I)
>
> I am still collecting URL's of ham radio home pages. I would appreciate a
link from
> yours. My URL is listed in the signature.
>
> Regards,
> --
>
> Brian D. Morgan, CPBE
> Internet Consultants of Springfield
> http://www.fgi.net/~bmorgan/wa9iaf.htm
> [e-mail]    217-698-5970

Hello Brian,
Check out my pages, have been adding new stuff daily. Also
have quite a few more links to add, hopefully all will be in
there by the end of next week.

73 Kyle WA4PGM

www.moonstar.com/~wa4pgm/welcome



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:55 1996
From: Tom Medlin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham WWW Home Pages
Date: 6 Apr 1996 19:11:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4k6flp$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

I have just finished my new home page. it has pictures of my ham shack and
links to arrl, nasa, doppler radar and much more. please add it to all of
your pages as links if you like.  thanks, tom
my page is http://www.cris.com/~tcmedlin



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:56 1996
From: Ken Yu <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re:Help 900mhz Spectra programming.
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 17:13:59 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

>I have a motorola spectra 900mhz b5 and b7 mobile radio and programming
>software. Need help how to re-program this radio to ham
>freq.(902-928mhz)Any help is graetly appreciated.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:56 1996
From: CrACKeD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help Wanted With FT-708R
Date: 6 Apr 1996 20:36:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4k7d71$[e-mail]>

How can I change the subaudible tones on a Yeasu FT-708R via the keypad?
It's not too easy to figure out without a manual.

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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:57 1996
From: Tom Medlin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Help: New to Amateur Radio......
Date: 8 Apr 1996 00:45:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4k9nih$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Hi Artur .. well i hit this tab key and it sent this post before i got my
addressed typed in.  for information on how to get your ham license go to
my home page at http://www.cris.com/~tcmedlin



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rich Mulvey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Help: New to Amateur Radio......
Date: 7 Apr 1996 23:06:56 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On Mon, 08 Apr 1996 07:16:51 GMT, Artur Leung <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>     I am an Electrical Engineer and am new to this Amateur Radio
>field.  Can anyone tell me how I can get started?  What should I do
>now?
>     Any information is welcome.
>

Artur:

   Try calling the American Radio Relay League ( ARRL ) in Newington, CT.  The
y
have free information packages for people who are interested in
getting into amateur radio.

- Rich

---
Rich Mulvey, aa2ys                                        Rochester, NY   USA
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
aa2ys@wb2psi.#wny.ny.us



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:53:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Gallup)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 96 22:21:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4k469k$[e-mail]>
References: <4jd51d$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jkv70$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4k1dnc$[e-mail]>

In article <4k1dnc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ed Gallup) wrote:

>>>>In article <4jd51d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joe Sullivan)
>writes:
>>>>>I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack.  What is the

>>>>>recommended way to run coax thru the wall?
>
>   In all reality, just drill a large (~ 2") hole in the wall when it is
>complete and stick in a nice white PVC pipe section with flange fittings slid

>over each end to hold firmly in place.  Presents a fairly aesthetic
appearance
>and is functional.
>
>  Ed  WB6SAT  [e-mail]


     I must point out, in light of the safety inspection discussion on this
subject, that I have three 8 foot ground rods driven in the ground outside
this antenna cable port, and that  all cables goe through lightning arrestors
which are bussed to this ground system before they enter the house.

    Ed  WB6SAT


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ICOM 706 DC Power Plug Availability?
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 13:34:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4k37sl$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Howard Radke) wrote:

>I have been looking for a source for 706 12 volt connectors so that I can
>make up some extra power cords, but to no avail. The plug apparently comes
>from a Japanese supplier (JST). I located thier distributer here in
>Seattle, but their catalogue does not show the connector used on the 706.

>Has anyone out there been successful in locating a source for these
>connectors? Of course the local dealer will sell me an ICOM DC power cord
>for $23.00.

>73,

>   Howard   N7TI

>--
>Howard Radke    -   N7TI
>[e-mail]
Howard,

You can pirchase the connector and pins only directly from ICOM, you
do not need to purchase the entire cord.

Gary



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:02 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Johnny)
Subject: Re: ICOM 765 MODS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 11:42:34 GMT
References: <4jhlvl$[e-mail]> <4k2qit$[e-mail]>

Jim Kehler ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Which brings up a good question, something I have wondered about for
: years. Why is it that we 'hams', most of us being employed in fields
: other than electronics design, and few of us being capable of building
: our own equipment, think that the first thing we should do with a new
: $2000.00 radio that was designed and manufactured by professionals, is
: to open the cover and MODIFY it so that it works better ? I never see
: anyone asking for TV or refrigerator mods or toaster mods, do those
: things all work correctly out of the box ? You never know, maybe there
: is a diode in my TV that I could clip and start watching channels I
: never dreamed of, or a diode in my toaster that I could clip that would
: make the bagels pop out with cream cheese already on them ?

: Does anyone have any historical data on the phenomemon of MODS ?

Jim,

Great question.  I posted that same question, (only not so eloquently).
I had a lot of people who said I was an idoit (only not so eloquently).
A few people, however, did try to respond with more than an insult.
A lot of people tried to rationalize it with reasons such as
"I want to use my new $2k rig as a signal generator so I can fix my
$25 handheld" when they could get a proper signal generator for about
$10 at a hamfest.  Some wanted to use it for MARS, but I guess they
didn't know that they could call the manufacturer who would supply
that information for free.  Some wanted to take the rig overseas where
the band allocations are different.  This point was probably the only
valid reason that anyone pointed out.  But I would suspect that even in
the case where the manufacturer made firmware allowance for this, that
most of those requesting the mods were after something else anyway.

A few wanted their rig to pull 'double duty' and use it in another service
as well as in the ham bands.  I wonder if they ever checked into those
other services to find out if type acceptance was a requirement or not.

In short, almost every response was very lame, with the rare exception.

Maybe they think that it adds re-sale value.  I don't know if that is
true or not, but in today's world, I don't know that I would really
want to buy a used rig if I had questions on the seller's integrity.

I think that most hams just think it is sexy to tell their friends
that their new rig is a 0-30Mhz general coverage transmitter.  And they
are willing to make the occasional mistake at 3am when their eyes can't
focus, and transmit out of band, and maybe get an NAL.

I have a real problem with anyone who goes out and spends $2k on a rig
and then immediately gets on Usenet asking for mods.  I guess the best
thing that happened as a result of my questioning this was that I got put
into a lot of peoples 'kill' files. ;-)

Oh, the discussion did take a positive turn and people started asking
if transmitting into a dummy load was really 'transmitting'.  I  don't
recall that there was a defacto answer, but the discussion was good
anyway.

73
John  NM3P


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dungeon Master)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: If you own a gun and you are a ham
Date: 8 Apr 1996 08:06:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4kba0p$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4k61id$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Brian Pasternak) wrote:

>Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>You are a double wimp. You need the gun to replace
>>the part on your body that is dormant and you use
>>the ham radio to play the Wizard of Oz
>>--
>>#================#=====================================================#|  B
urt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>>|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
>>#================#=====================================================#| k1
[e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
>>#======================================================================#
>>Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
>>bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


>Well, it seems that Burt is proof that little minds have little
>thoughts.

>Have a good one!   I do!
>Brian Pasternak, KA3VSP.

I agree. It seems that "burt" uses his computer behind the curtain,
and not the microphone. But remember, little people must stand on a
soap-box to be on the same level as others, otherwise, no one even
notices them.

(GRIN)
LOL

Rob
N7ORY Glendale, Arizona
DM33VM
[e-mail]
28.390 USB, 52.525(s), 146.54(s), 442.85+,
http://www.primenet.com/~n7ory/index.html



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:04 1996
From: Robert Tanton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: IPS Daily Report - 03 April 96
Date: 5 Apr 1996 18:44:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4k3pmr$[e-mail]>
References: <4jv0ik$[e-mail]>
To: http://www.ips.gov.au//rwc

I am expecting one of the largest solar flares ever observed to occur on
Sat. 4-6-96 @1733 GMT . This flare will play havoc with world
communication and satellites.
Robert Tanton
113/1178
Tampa



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:05 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: IPS Daily Report - 03 April 96
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 22:35:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4k6kf9$[e-mail]>
References: <4jv0ik$[e-mail]> <4k3pmr$[e-mail]>

Robert Tanton <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I am expecting one of the largest solar flares ever observed to occur on
>Sat. 4-6-96 @1733 GMT . This flare will play havoc with world
>communication and satellites.
>Robert Tanton
>113/1178
>Tampa




Currently 4-6-96 2230 Z.  Helloooooo flare????


           C. Dean Norris
      Amateur Radio Station K7NO
      e-mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:06 1996
From: AA3JD@.epix.net
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KENWOOD TH22AT MOD..
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 96 20:36:12 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>



Does anyone know where I can get the procedure to
modify the TH22 for full band coverage..??

Thanks

Gary



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Steve W. Teegarden )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Las Vegas / Nevada Repeater Freq.
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 96 06:44:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4k7o6u$[e-mail]>

Aloha,

I'm considering relocating to Las Vegas, and would appricate any information
on the Freqs for local repeaters, both Las Vegas, and State wide. Both VHF and

UHF. Any thoughts or recommedations are appricated !

73's

Steve WH6IC
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:08 1996
From: Russell Chandler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Manual Source
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 16:43:19 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am now the owner of a Tempo 2020 by Uniden.
Can someone point me to a possible source for
obtaining an operators manual?

                  Russell



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nenad Nedeljkovic)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mobile Telephone Service via Radio?
Date: 7 Apr 1996 03:40:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4k7dem$[e-mail]>

A cousin of mine lives in Yugoslavia, where the cellular phone
service is non-existent. He claims that it is possible to use
radio connections to establish mobile telephone service.
Apparently, one unit and an antenna would go on the car, and
the other unit would be somehow hooked up to his regular phone
line. The power output would be 50W (for the base station?)
and the range around 50 miles.

He's seen this work for other people, but he has no clue about
radio technology (and neither do I). Despite the fact that he
can't precisely describe the necessary equipment, he wants me
to buy it for him.

Can somebody please help me figure out how this is supposed to
work (if at all), and what kind of equipment is needed.

Thanks.
--
Nenad Nedeljkovic                     URL: http://www.cs.rice.edu/~nenad
Graduate Student                   E-mail: [e-mail]
Department of Computer Science      Phone: + [1] [phone] ext.2731
Rice University                       Fax: + [1] [phone]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:10 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mobile Telephone Service via Radio?
Date: 7 Apr 1996 04:09:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4k7f5m$[e-mail]>
References: <4k7dem$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Nenad Nedeljkovic) wrote:
>A cousin of mine lives in Yugoslavia, where the cellular phone
>service is non-existent. He claims that it is possible to use
>radio connections to establish mobile telephone service.
>Apparently, one unit and an antenna would go on the car, and
>the other unit would be somehow hooked up to his regular phone
>line. The power output would be 50W (for the base station?)
>and the range around 50 miles.
>
>He's seen this work for other people, but he has no clue about
>radio technology (and neither do I). Despite the fact that he
>can't precisely describe the necessary equipment, he wants me
>to buy it for him.
>
>Can somebody please help me figure out how this is supposed to
>work (if at all), and what kind of equipment is needed.
>

What you need is called a "simplex phone patch."  They're readily
available at ham radio stores, and come from many vendors, at many
prices.  You can hook one up to an HF rig or a VHF set, which is
probably what your friend has in mind.  The device goes at the
base station; the unit in the car is just a regular radio, although
it will have to have a keypad for entering phone numbers and
remote control of the phone patch itself.  I'm sure you'll get other
answers which will shed more light on the answer.

73 de Will KB9JTT




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kyle Cassidy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: my upgrade never arrived - wt do I do?
Date: 4 Apr 1996 22:43:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4k1jbd$[e-mail]>

About a year ago, I upgraded to general. Although my new class appears in
the callbooks, I never recieved an upgraded license. who do i call? (whom
do i call?) i'm not terribly concerned about it, but i bother to learn
code for it....

thanks,

kc


--
this is my sig


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Don Mills)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: my upgrade never arrived - wt do I do?
Date: 5 Apr 1996 03:15:25 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k1jbd$[e-mail]>

In article <4k1jbd$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kyle
Cassidy) wrote:

> About a year ago, I upgraded to general. Although my new class appears in
> the callbooks, I never recieved an upgraded license. who do i call? (whom
> do i call?) i'm not terribly concerned about it, but i bother to learn
> code for it....
>
> thanks,
>
> kc
>
>
> --
> this is my sig

You're right, it's no big deal, but if nothing else you will need it some
day to upgrade or renew.  If you want to look it up, it's section 97.29 --
but what it says is to send a letter explaining what happened (or in this
case, didn't) to:  FCC  1270 Fairfield Rd.  Gettysburg, PA 17325-7245.

Vy 73,
Don   K9DM


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:13 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: my upgrade never arrived - wt do I do?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4k1jbd$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 15:33:38 GMT

In article <4k1jbd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kyle Cassidy
) writes:
>About a year ago, I upgraded to general. Although my new class appears in
>the callbooks, I never recieved an upgraded license. who do i call? (whom
>do i call?) i'm not terribly concerned about it, but i bother to learn
>code for it....

You need to go directly to the horse's mouth on this one. Call the FCC.
If your upgrade is showing up in the callbooks, then it is in the FCC
database, and they should have mailed you a new license. Since you didn't
get it, either they have your address wrong, or the post office screwed
up. In either event call the FCC and have them issue you a replacement.

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Stuart ([e-mail]))
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Naughty Rude Words
Date: 6 Apr 1996 03:24:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4k4o5m$[e-mail]>
References: <4jloui$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


: --
:      Robert Garland                            NX3S @ N3ACL.PA.USA.NOAM
:      Hilltown Township Bucks County               [e-mail]
:      Pennsylvania USA                                       Grid FN20ii
:                    Hams do it bouncing off the "F" layer

We see that someone else in the world is taking themselves too seriously.

I have always heard that hams do it with big towers.

Also, teachers do it on the blackboard.

Also, chess players mate better.

What's naughty about that?

--
-- Dave Stuart
[e-mail]
University of Missouri -- Rolla

KB0SLY



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Next test...(thanks for nuthin')
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 17:43:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4judc3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> Excuse me if this information is maintained elswhere on the net, but I am
>> interested in taking my Technician test and I was wondering if anybody
>> knew if there will be a test given in the greater Hampton Roads area in
>> the near future.

>Well this was my first post to this newsgroup.  Did I get any answers at
>all? No I did not. Is it that I only want to take the technician exams?
>Hey here is somebody who _wants_ to take the test, who wants to become a
>ham. I am sorry if I feel that taking the code test right away is too much
>for me for fit in between work, kids, wife and my other hobby. Not a great
>statement on the overall helpfullness of this particular newsgroup. Maybe
>you people should look up from your code/no-code arguments for a minute!

>btw - I found out the dates and times for the tests using the WWW - all on
>my own.

>very little thanks,

>Matt

>Matthew C. Sargent
>[e-mail]
>AMA# 457887


Not sure just what your problem is Matt!  I haven't the faintest idea
where the greater Hampton Roads area is, or for that matter even what
state it is located in.  Please bear in mind that you are posting a
QUESTION to the newsgourp.  If people don't have an answer to your
question, then chances are that you won't get much of a response.  No
need to develope an attitude that everyone is down on you cause you
have decided to take a No Code Tech test.  What class of license you
wish to attain is entirely up to you.  It all depends on what aspects
of the hobby you have an interest in (Sat's, RTTY, CW, SSB, FM, SSTV,
FSTV, HF, VHF, UHF, etc.).  Different strokes for different folks.

Like I said, I haven't the faintest where the greater Hampton Roads
area is, but obviously from your signature line you have two wheels
and an interest in performance bikes.  If Summer EVER returns to
Minnesota, I'll be out on my "90" ZX-11 instead of workin DX on 160
Meters.  Wanna ride?

                        de KN0Z  Gary in Wyoming, MN

Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:18 1996
From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Open Letter to "This Week in Amateur Radio" Affiliates
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 96 02:53:12 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

     As most of you know, "This Week in Amateur Radio" has been in
operation from the Albany, New York area for over three years.
Since taking over and dramatically restructuring the service, we
have relied heavily on the generosity of various individuals and
organizations to provide the satellite uplink capability that has
been our sole means of distribution.  That generosity has enabled us
to serve the amateur radio community as the fastest, most up-to-the-
minute news and information service in the activity.  Satellite
distribution has also been an "Achilles heel".
     Our reliance on this cost-effective means of distribution has
allowed us to keep our expenses to a managable level; a level that
has been, for the most part, supported by our affiliates.
Conversely, our reliance on others to provide satellite space has
forced us to endure numerous transitions from one satellite to
another; from one network to another.  As a result, we have been
unable to maintain a stable base of affiliates and financial support
to do much more than meet our day-to-day expenses.  Each of these
moves have been beyond our control.  Due to the limited funding of
the service, we were essentially not in control of our own destiny.
     Such was the case this week when we learned that the "Tech Talk
Network" was being dissolved.  It was late Wednesday night when we
realized that the wheels had come off, though a few of our
affiliates were aware of this a day earlier.  We would have again
been the last to know had it not been for the alertness of those
affiliates who brought the situation to our attention via email.
     Much of Thursday was spent on the phone with representatives of
Skyvision, Inc., the "Tech Talk Network", and the uplink site
engineer.  A tentative plan to maintain our operations on Telesat
Canada Anik E2 was developed based upon the guidance of the parties
with whom we had been in contact.  By 6:00 AM Friday, a formal
proposal to Skyvision had been completed.  Thanks to the cooperation
of all the parties involved, we remained optimistic that "This Week
in Amateur Radio" would be on the bird for scheduled distribution on
Saturday, April 6th.
     Our intention was to gain control of our own situation; to take
a more "pro-active" approach.  The proposal we submitted, which
allowed for and would have been subject to negotiation, was emailed
to Skyvision representatives on Friday morning.  Due to scheduling
conflicts and a round of telephone tag, it wasn't until late Friday
evening that it became apparent that our efforts had been futile.
Skyvision has opted to withdraw their support of our efforts.
     I sincerely hope that those involved see this explanation of
the situation as fair and accurate.  Since we at "This Week in
Amateur Radio" have never had an axe to grind, an agenda beyond the
scope of our own production, or a discouraging word about any person
or program connected with any of the three networks with whom we
have been affiliated, we have made every effort to stay above the
fray.  From a journalistic standpoint, we are proud of our track
record of fairness, accuracy, diversity, and longevity in reporting
items of significance to amateurs throughout North America.
     Discussions with other satellite carriers for the donation or
lease of satellite space continue in earnest.  I encourage anyone
with contacts within the TVRO/satellite communications industry to
contact us.  When a new agreement is reached, "This Week in Amateur
Radio" will return to satellite air.  Details will be posted as
conditions warrant.  All affiliates are requested to contact the
producers for further information.

Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Executive Producer - "This Week in Amateur Radio"
518/664-6809
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Bobby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: PacketCluster software
Date: 04 Apr 1996 17:27:31 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Where can I find information about the software that is commonly used for
dxclusters? I've searched the net, and there's no reference.

--
Paul Bobby - [e-mail] - 73 de kb2vkn
Key fingerprint =  E1 A4 41 6E 43 48 31 C6  33 EF 9E 48 1A 69 B6 4B
KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:20 1996
From: Len Winkler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital
Subject: PACTOR discussed on radio show
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 08:27:02 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Paul Sussman, KB8LUJ, will be the special guest this sunday on the Ham
Radio & More radio show. Be sure to listen to find out more about
PACTOR. Show times and info appear below.
--
Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
RealAudio site:http://www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html

The show airs LIVE each SUNDAY at 6:00pm ET (2200utc) on many stations
throughout the country.
ALSO: LIVE everywhere on WWCR shortwave, 100,000 watts, on 7.435mhz and
12.160mhz, 2200utc.

The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 0900utc on 3.315,
on Mondays, and Saturdays at 1600utc on 12.160.


Support "WOG". Written only General!!!


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Roy Lewallen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: popagation prediction
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 96 03:19:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4k23d8$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Steve Z.) wrote:
>Does anyone have the MINIPROP, MICROPROP , or any other propagation
prediction
>algorthyms?  I'd like to incorporate it in a propgram I'm working on.  Any
>source code or documentation would be greatly appreciated.

Don't know about MICROPROP, but MINIPROP is copyrighted commercial
software, a product of W6EL Software. Developers of commercial software
don't give away their source code.

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:22 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL routes for Contests
Date: 6 Apr 1996 00:39:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4k4efh$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I have worked the CQ WPX SSB contest and have a bunch of new calls,
but NO QSL route information. Where does a person obtain this info.
I have read that you do NOT ask for QSL info during contests and
pile-ups so I didn't. Now what??
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Pete Soper)
Subject: Re: QSL routes for Contests
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:20:52 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k4efh$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] writes:

>I have worked the CQ WPX SSB contest and have a bunch of new calls,
>but NO QSL route information. Where does a person obtain this info.
>I have read that you do NOT ask for QSL info during contests and
>pile-ups so I didn't. Now what??

What I do is run all the foreign calls through an email server at
[e-mail], one callsign per line. I also search the
DX newsletters by automatic means for matches. Then I send everything
I've got to the outgoing buro, whether I have a QSL route or not. My
interest is more in the contesting than the QSL cards but I figure a
fraction of the folks I contacted are seeking them, so I send to
everybody, every time. As I get better at making contacts I find the
desire for a printer for labels getting more and more attractive :-)

Yes, it is very awkward for a contester going at a high rate
(or checking other bands and making contacts when you think he/she
might be listening). If his rate is not high and he isn't doing two
things at once behind the scenes then he'll probably give you QSL info
cheerfully.  If things are busy, noisy on his end, he's tired, or
occasionally just a true jerk, then you'll most of the time be ignored,
once in a great while get a rude remark. Key thing is to not let it
bother you but try to tune into the situation. Over time you'll
learn to sense what is appropriate (but will always be wrong a part
of the time). Oh, and some contesters understand only enough English for
the contest. The critical thing is to avoid snap judgements about your
treatment in these situations. If you manage to get on the runner's
side of a pileup you'll be amazed at how those snap judgements will
revisit your thoughts :-)

During WAE last year I chased down some guys after regular contacts
to give them "QTC" information, in some cases multiple batches. More
than once they reciprocated with a quick "I'd be happy to send a QSL
via the buro". In one case the guy gave me his full mailing address. I
didn't really want this since I can't afford direct QSLs, but couldn't
bring myself to dampen his enthusiasm.

And keep in mind that some contesters do not want to hear the words
"QSL card". They make tens of thousands of contacts a year, year after
year, and would be smothered if they got cards from everybody. So some
cards will go to folks that are eager for them, some will go to the box
for fireplace starters in the foreign country.

Regards,
Pete
KS4XG



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:24 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:28:03 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <4jmsth$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Bruno - AERA - LG" writes:

> Ave,
>
> Latine loquor sed radio-amator non sum. Et tu?
>
> Istos nuntios scripsi in hoc foro quia amici mei, radio-amatores, eos misit
>  mihi.

Vos omnes fortasse credites me aliquid grave ac memorabile Latine
dicturum esse. Re vera, illud facere non in animo habeo. Etenim
perlecturus sum vobis catalogum lavandariorum. Hic incipit. Tibialium
paria tria, subuncularum quinque, tunicae duae, nullum amylum. Sic
actum est. Mihi plaudere nunc potestis. Die dulce fruimini!

Ignosce mihi, cacare necesse est.

BTW, I still prefer Klingon.

Qap'lagh
Mike       The CQ Centre BBS, 01753 595468, 300-28800 bps, 8N1, ANSI-BBS
G4KFK      Tel/Fax Slough [phone]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tim Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 05:17:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4kcrr4$[e-mail]>
References: <4kbsq3$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Bruce Bryant) wrote:

>Radio Shack has the HT 202 on sale for $189.  Is this a good deal?
>And please, no more derisive comments about RS itself.  That one
>has been pretty well beaten into the ground.
>Bruce Bryant, KC8BWL

Hi Bruce,
I will say in my opinion, that the HTX-202 is the best HT on the
market for 2 meters. But you must understand there is no mods for this
rig. Also it doesn't receive out of the band. But if your looking for
a 2 meter only HT, then you can't beat a HTX-202. I owned one for a
long time before selling for something that would receive out of band.
I like to listen into local police and weather. Great HT and great
price.
73 Tim KG8OC/AAR5BP




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:26 1996
From: [e-mail](au)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: 6 Apr 1996 06:52:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4k54c3$[e-mail]>
References: <4jk2r4$[e-mail]> <4jksst$[e-mail]> <4jrhus$[e-mail]>


>> Suddenly, the clerk turns pale.  Giving away the trademark of the
>> characteristic Blank Stare, clears the throat and says...
>
>> "Have you see our latest catalog?"
>

>Nope...  The door didn't hit me in the butt as I walked out.
>
Well Brian, their products really are pretty good.  But its the typical
Radio Shack employee that gives them a bad rap.  Too bad Tandy didn't
attempt to recruit some electronic school students or freshly graduated
ones to sell for them.  If they really paid a decent starting wage they
even might keep a few of them.

Then I got this one from another person.  It seemed to him that the
bigger the city, the Blanker the stare!




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:28 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack: You got blank stares? Try hiring the knowledgable
Date: 8 Apr 1996 20:01:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4kbrae$[e-mail]>
References: <4jrbps$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <4jrbps$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> wr
ites:
>
>> I will say that after working at this store a year, I have learned a lot ab
out
>>our products and about helping customers.  I'm sure the skills I learn will
be
>>beneficial in future jobs that I will have.  For now, I'm happy working at R
S
>>as a part-timer.  It keeps me out of trouble, helps me budget my studying
>>time, helps me to deal with customers, and gives me some extra money on the
>>side.  BTW, I earn 5.5% commision per hour per week or $4.25 an hour,
>>whichever is higher, plus spiffs.  I get 1 week paid vacation, plus paid
>>holidays (even if I don't work that day, birthday included), a 10% employee
>>discount, optional health insurance, and access to the Tandy Stock plan.  I
>>usually average a gross pay around 4.75-5.00 an hour.
>
>>73's de N8VJF
>
>
>
>    You are one of the rare employees that Radio Shack has! You are the
>exception, not the rule. Most of the RS employees I have run into don't
>know the difference between a fuse and a light bulb. I wish there were
>more well informed RS employees so I don't waste my time searching
>the shelves.
>
>    I will give you an example: Most customers don't remember the stock
>numbers of the items they see in the RS catalog, just the description
>of the product. I was in Radio Shack on Saturday and over-heard
>a customer ask to look at the digital SWR/power meter that RS sells.
>The guy behind the counter said, "What's the catalog number?".
>The customer didn't know and the sales man said that he would need
>to know the catalog number so he could show him the right thing.
>
>   Well I guess the RS sales man thought that RS sold two dozen different
>models of a digital SWR meter and needed further information!
>This typical of what I go through too. Either the sales man was stupid,
>not up on the products that RS sells, or just didn't feel like working
>and figured he would give the customer a hard time.
>
>    Radio Shack claims that the sky is the limit to the amount of money
>a sales person can make. All they have to do is sell more. Yeah, right!
>Try selling more when you are placed in a RS store in a shopping
>center on the other end of town from the mall. When I worked from
>6 p.m. to closing, there were nights that not a single person walked
>into the store. The district manager did not want to hear that! He still
>expected to see a sales increase every month. Pretty hard to do when
>the typical customer was from the local neighborhood and comes in
>with a silly problem. I sold lots of fuses, batteries, turntable needles,
>cable TV jumper cables, and just about anything else that cost under
>$5.99. Very rarely did somebody come in for a stereo system, or
>some other big ticket item. The people in that neighborhood went to the
>mall on a Saturday when they wanted those kind of items. The neighborhood
>RS store was only to solve their nickel and dime problems and gave them
>somebody to bitch at for giving blank stares!
>
>73 from Steve
>
>

Boy, a chill just went down my spine reading that one!  Not only do we share
the same first name, we both have been stuck in bad radio shacks!

I went through the same BS with the district manager griping because my
numbers were poor.  I was laid off after my 3rd christmas (the day after xmas)
because of "poor performance", but then 4 months later, they closed the store
because it was "underperforming"...

As I have said before, I don't mind working holidays, as a matter of fact, I h
ave
worked part time every christmas season since 1990...

I guess boycotting it the only was they'll get the message, through their
wallets!



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:29 1996
From: Brian Ward <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater Frequencies????
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 08:07:43 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jh0b0$[e-mail]>
To: "F.J. Finnie" <[e-mail]>

F.J. Finnie wrote:
>
> F.J. Finnie
> [e-mail]
>
> HAM in distress,  I just got my HT after what seems like forever.
> I need to get some repeater frequencies that are current on 2 meters.
> I live in Matthews, Missouri.  I scan the frequencies and occasionally hear
> a repeater, but I can't seem to get through.  My ARRL Repeater Directory is
> on order, but I haven't recieved it yet. could one of you render assistance
> in the interum??
>
> 73's
>
> KB0SOA

Probably requires a CTCSS subaudible tone to be transmited to allow the
repeater to key up.

Try calling on 146.52 simplex to see if someone can help you...

The offsets are 600khz +- offsets, try checking that also...

Brian ve4rbl
--
============================================
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[e-mail]     or    [e-mail]
check out my web page:   http://www.cyberspc.mb.ca/~bward
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (shamrock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RS  HTX-212 has been out a year has anyone found MODs ??
Date: 5 Apr 1996 18:13:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4k3ns3$[e-mail]>

Hi,
 Just wondering if anyone has found any mods to the HTX-212 like
being able to program out-of-band freq like 162.55 <weather in my
area> into memory instead of just VFO...or being able to select
programmed memory channels for selective scanning ie.. scan 5,10,
or just two memory channels at a time...I know there is a way to
"NOT-Scan" 5 freq's but that leaves 25 left scanning....

Or a way to expand number of memory channels ??


I love the radio it performs really great but just falls a little short in
the above areas...guess my Alinco ht spoiled me :>.


73's
Bill
N2YTE


  [e-mail]
       *******************************************************



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 23:16:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE

V>Why don't we just drop the code requirement to 5WPM for ALL...or, better
 >yet, eliminate it entirely?  That way, we wouldn't have to worry about
 >who's entitled to the "severe handicap" exclusion and who is not...while
 >simletaneously acknowledging that it is now 1996 and Morse Code no longer
 >has any relevant value as a mandated testing element.

10 WPM and you've got a deal!

---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 20:24:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE

V>Why don't we just drop the code requirement to 5WPM for ALL...or, better
 >yet, eliminate it entirely?  That way, we wouldn't have to worry about
 >who's entitled to the "severe handicap" exclusion and who is not...while
 >simletaneously acknowledging that it is now 1996 and Morse Code no longer
 >has any relevant value as a mandated testing element.

10 WPM and you've got a deal!

---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:33 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 14:01:14 GMT
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>,
   Jim Lowman <[e-mail] (Jim Lowman)> wrote:
|At first, I had trouble understanding the reason that anyone would want the
|Extra ticket if not to work CW, since there is only a 25 kHz gain in the 80,
|20  and 15 m voice subbands.  I suppose anyone would like the prestige of
|attaining the top class of license.

One of the reasons I went all the way was because I wanted to be a fully
functional member of our VE team.

        /JBL  KD1ON
--
Nets: [e-mail]  | "How does a mouse let me move the cursor anywhere
  or [e-mail]|  I want?"  "What are address busses?"  "How do
pots: [phone]  |  icons work?"              --Time-Life Books
ARS:  KD1ON          |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:33 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 22:21:52 GMT

Joel B Levin ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In <[e-mail]>,
:    Jim Lowman <[e-mail] (Jim Lowman)> wrote:
: |At first, I had trouble understanding the reason that anyone would want the
: |Extra ticket if not to work CW, since there is only a 25 kHz gain in the 80
,
: |20  and 15 m voice subbands.  I suppose anyone would like the prestige of
: |attaining the top class of license.

: One of the reasons I went all the way was because I wanted to be a fully
: functional member of our VE team.

Good point; I had not considered that!

73 de Jim - KF6CR


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Date: 5 Apr 1996 09:38:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4k2pm2$[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Jim Lowman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Bart Jahnke ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: If you have information about possible abuses, forward that information
>: to the FCC.  The FCC requires first hand, factual information which may
>: bring into question the merits of a Physician's Certification.  Cases
>: must be individually addressed.  Send your information, in letter form,
>: with signature, to:
>
>We had a gentleman show up at our VE testing session last month with a
>waiver.  He had passed all code/theory elements except 1C, for which he had
>the waiver.
>
>One of our OT Extras, himself a VE, sternly challenged this individual.

Um, why?  Was there some reason to believe this waiver was forged or
otherwise not completed as instructed by the FCC?  Was this OT Extra
actually a doctor qualified to dispute the physician's certification?

Just because some folks don't like the rules doesn't mean they don't
have to follow them, and this applies to VEs, even OT Extra VEs.  If
someone presents a properly completed waiver, the VE is bound by law
to accept it, not launch off into some stern challenge.  Action like
this needlessly generates ill will.

>While I can understand that there will always be those who are ready to
>abuse any well-intentioned accommodation, talking with this gentleman
>satisfied me that he was not trying to sidestep the requirement.  He said
>that he had hit a plateau at 17 wpm, and sought the advice of an audiologist
>when he could progress no farther.  He was told that he would need a hearing
>aid within two years.

It isn't up to the VE to second guess the physician's certification;
the VE needs to make sure the certificate is properly completed (by the
letter of the law) by a qualified physician, end of story.  I wonder how
the OT Extra would feel if someone sternly challenged his license status,
perhaps implicitly accusing him of wrongdoing in the process.

>I am glad to see that there is an avenue to report suspected abuse.

Yup, so am I.  Could you please forward the details of the VE session
that this abuse took place at (VEC, date, location, identity of VEs and
OT Extra) so I can report the suspected abuse to the VEC?

;-)

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:36 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Kristin Rachael Hayward)
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <4k6ong$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 21:14:44 GMT

In article <4k6ong$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:


:I'm both a medical doctor and a VE team leader.

(snip)

:they've hamstrung the VEs so that we are technically in violation of
:the rules if we ask the examinee ANY questions at all about the nature of
:his or her disability.

(snip)

: Something I've
:thought about doing, but haven't yet, to deal with the abuse problem is to
:contact the physician who signed the form (assuming I know him/her
:through my medical connections) & explain what is really involved to see
:if the alleged disability is legitimate or not, and attach a note to the FCC
:if it sounds like it isn't.  That avenue though is one open only to VE's
:who are also physicians & I'm sure very few of them are.
:
:
:* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
:* Alan Braun MD, NS0B/V31EV *Internet: [e-mail]       *
:* Jefferson City, MO        *Packet: NS0B@N0LBA.#cemo.mo.usa.noam *
:* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
:


It bothers me to think that a fellow VE team leader would feel this
way about the waiver.

However, I guess it is a reflection of the hierarchial nature of
licensing that some hams hold to. I.e., being a extra is better
than anything, and we have to do everything we can to keep out
the undesirables..or cw is better than (fill in the words) and
we cw people have to stick together.

Our jobs is to run the session and to verify/legitimate that which
we can *as hams.* We are not there to validate waivers, even if
you believe you have a right to question one as a doctor.

Kristin
WX9T
--
                    Kristin Rachael Hayward, PhD
    Director of Administrative Information Systems and Business Services
                        University of Maine
                http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:38 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Date: 6 Apr 1996 21:46:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4k6ong$[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <4jqb06$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Charles Hoffman)
writes:
>Here,  we do have individuals able to find hapless medical doctors
>willing to approve the form for the license application for  medical
>reasons,  cannot learn the code.  Reports locally I am told seem
>somewhat minor, or at least not severe handicaps.
(snip)
>
>Is this a issue NOT about handicaps, but perhaps about sociopathic
>individuals who want something for nothing?   In my personal radio
>experience in the last four decades, the community has always risen to
>the call of the handicapped (total loss of hearing, quads, strokes,
>etc) with devices to assist and bridge the gap.  This has been a
>personal pride of assisting and becoming involved with disabled
>persons who, as a result, experience a real sense of accomplishment.
(snip)
>
>The new FCC form seems to allow a window of opportunity for the
>advantaged to acquire, via a system to support the disadvantaged.  I
>wonder if anyone has observed and considered the same concepts at play
>and if in the affirmative, what should be done to correct any possible
>unjustifiable benefits being derived via the oversight in this system?
(snip)
>
I'm both a medical doctor and a VE team leader.  I agree that this is
unfortunately a problem, one I anticipated when I saw how the FCC
implemented the handicap waiver.  I filed comments to them on the
waiver while it was still just a proposal, and included a 10-page
addendum detailing some specific situations where I thought, based on
my ham and medical experience (in a field - rheumatology - that deals
with chronic disease & chronic disability) some conditions where I thought
that waivers were & were not appropriate, in hopes they would provide
some specific guidance.  Unfortunately that did not happen.  Not only
that, they've hamstrung the VEs so that we are technically in violation of
the rules if we ask the examinee ANY questions at all about the nature of
his or her disability.  Our team has had only a couple of disability waivers
presented to us in the 5 yrs or so this rule has been in effect, and they
were at sessions I did not attend for one reason or other.  Something I've
thought about doing, but haven't yet, to deal with the abuse problem is to
contact the physician who signed the form (assuming I know him/her
through my medical connections) & explain what is really involved to see
if the alleged disability is legitimate or not, and attach a note to the FCC
if it sounds like it isn't.  That avenue though is one open only to VE's
who are also physicians & I'm sure very few of them are.

It's a tough problem & one which is not likely to be fixed given the FCC's
present total lack of interest in any type of enforcement.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Alan Braun MD, NS0B/V31EV *Internet: [e-mail]       *
* Jefferson City, MO        *Packet: NS0B@N0LBA.#cemo.mo.usa.noam *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:39 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Date: 7 Apr 1996 05:23:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4k7jhc$[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <4k6ong$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Kristin Rachael
Hayward) writes:
>It bothers me to think that a fellow VE team leader would feel this
>way about the waiver.
>
>However, I guess it is a reflection of the hierarchial nature of
>licensing that some hams hold to. I.e., being a extra is better
>than anything, and we have to do everything we can to keep out
>the undesirables..or cw is better than (fill in the words) and
>we cw people have to stick together.
>
>Our jobs is to run the session and to verify/legitimate that which
>we can *as hams.* We are not there to validate waivers, even if
>you believe you have a right to question one as a doctor.
>
I realize that our job as VE's is to run the sessions as fairly as possible.
I have not & never would confront someone at the time of a test with
questions about the legitimacy of their form even if I was SURE it was
fake.  (I've been through a forgery experience in a test session before,
where someone presented a bogus CSCE, and learned then that the best
way is just to accept the paperwork at face value & raise the questions
later to the VEC &/or the FCC!)  It isn't fair to either the applicant, who
is no doubt nervous about the test itself, nor to the other examinees
who may be present at the time, to create a disruption at the test session.

However, I stand by my position that many people presenting disability
waivers really do not have a disability that SIGNIFICANTLY impairs their
ability to learn CW.  By the same token, many people seeking other forms
of disability, including Social Security, SSI, disabled persons license plates
etc, likewise do not qualify - I see this every day in my work!  Also, there
is a subtle financial pressure on doctors to sign the 610 waivers ("if you
don't sign my form I'll fire you as my doctor & go somewhere else where they
will sign it!")  The fact that I'm primarily a CW operator has nothing to do
with my thoughts on this subject, just personal experience over the last 18
years of medical practice.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Alan Braun MD, NS0B/V31EV *Internet: [e-mail]       *
* Jefferson City, MO        *Packet: NS0B@N0LBA.#cemo.mo.usa.noam *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:41 1996
From: Paulwho hates dumb [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 04:14:13 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:26:55 GMT, [e-mail] (Kristin
Rachael Hayward) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) wri
tes:
>:Bart Jahnke ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:
>:: If you have information about possible abuses, forward that information
>:: to the FCC.  The FCC requires first hand, factual information which may
>:: bring into question the merits of a Physician's Certification.  Cases
>:: must be individually addressed.  Send your information, in letter form,
>:: with signature, to:
>:
>:We had a gentleman show up at our VE testing session last month with a
>:waiver.  He had passed all code/theory elements except 1C, for which he had
>:the waiver.
>:
>:One of our OT Extras, himself a VE, sternly challenged this individual.
>
>
>I certainly hope this attitude is not common at VE sessions.
>
>It is not up to *us* to challenge anyone. Why a person decided he/she
>needed a waiver is none of our business. We are there to run the
>session as professionally and as *courtesly* as possible.
>
>:At first, I had trouble understanding the reason that anyone would want the
>:Extra ticket if not to work CW...
>
>Again, I don't see why it is our business or anyone's business as to
>why people want a certain license.
>
>If they have the waiver, we should treat the candidate politely, and
>process the paperwork with nothing said.
>
>WX9T
>
>
>
>--
>                    Kristin Rachael Hayward, PhD
>    Director of Administrative Information Systems and Business Services
>                        University of Maine
>                http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward




You are a Moron who does not understand part 97.... we are a self
policing radio service.   Did you not under go scrutiny for you
alleged PhD? same diff babe


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:42 1996
From: Paulwho hates dumb [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 04:17:47 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 4 Apr 1996 15:26:55 GMT, [e-mail] (Kristin
Rachael Hayward) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) wri
tes:
>:Bart Jahnke ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:
>:: If you have information about possible abuses, forward that information
>:: to the FCC.  The FCC requires first hand, factual information which may
>:: bring into question the merits of a Physician's Certification.  Cases
>:: must be individually addressed.  Send your information, in letter form,
>:: with signature, to:
>:
>:We had a gentleman show up at our VE testing session last month with a
>:waiver.  He had passed all code/theory elements except 1C, for which he had
>:the waiver.
>:
>:One of our OT Extras, himself a VE, sternly challenged this individual.
>
>
>I certainly hope this attitude is not common at VE sessions.
>
>It is not up to *us* to challenge anyone. Why a person decided he/she
>needed a waiver is none of our business. We are there to run the
>session as professionally and as *courtesly* as possible.
>
>:At first, I had trouble understanding the reason that anyone would want the
>:Extra ticket if not to work CW...
>
>Again, I don't see why it is our business or anyone's business as to
>why people want a certain license.
>
>If they have the waiver, we should treat the candidate politely, and
>process the paperwork with nothing said.
>
>WX9T
>
>
>
>--
>                    Kristin Rachael Hayward, PhD
>    Director of Administrative Information Systems and Business Services
>                        University of Maine
>                http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward




You as full of crap we are a self policing radio service.    Did you
get a waiver for your doctoral dissertation?


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:43 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Severe Handicap code exclusion ABUSE
Date: 9 Apr 1996 03:53:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4kcmvp$[e-mail]>
References: <4jqb06$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, Paulwho hates dumb [e-mail]
 writes:
>
>You are a Moron who does not understand part 97.... we are a self
>policing radio service.   Did you not under go scrutiny for you
>alleged PhD? same diff babe

<sigh> Paul, ol buddy ol pal, go read that part 97 bit again with respect to t
he
VE and VEC rules and the various documents relating to the creation of the
medical waivers. I understand part 97 enough to know that i accept what's turn
ed
in at the exam, we give the written test and go on.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (David L. Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.amtenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Shunt Feed Crank-up?
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 06:41:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4k536t$[e-mail]>
References: <4jh867$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail](Kevin Alfred Strom) wrote:

>Has anyone ever shunt fed a crank-up tower?

>Is there a good electrical connection between sections, or do the
>sections need to be bonded together with a flexible cable?

There was an excellent article by W5RTQ that has be included in the
ARRL antenna literature for years..he used a crank up.

electrical contact between section is the problem.   AE6E told me to
use ground strap tied to the outside of each section.  Tight when up,
but flapping when the tower is down.

I also suggest you take a look at the N4KG method (June 1994 QST) that
is the opposite of shunt feeding.

The real draw back is that often the tower is next to the house.....

Dave K4JRB
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:46 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Take a look at my ham shack
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 12:08:47 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k446r$[e-mail]>

tom Medlin wrote:
>
> Just finished my new home page and have included a picutre of my ham
> shack. Has links to arrl, doppler radar, NASA, and live cam shot of
> memphis, tn and the mighty mississippi river.  go to or click on
> http://www.cris.com/~tcmedlin

You have a very nice Web page. And personal as well.
Good job

                  .-.
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:47 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Test Session
Date: 6 Apr 1996 01:53:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4k4irg$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Sonoma County Radio Amateurs is sponsoring a test session at Hewlett-Packard
1400 Fountaingrove Parkway, Santa Rosa California on April 13, 1996 commencing
at 9:00 AM.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:48 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: THEY CHARGE TOO MUCH
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 17:01:58 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

ROLAND STINER wrote:

> Yes, but there, you get your money's worth!  What do you get at a
> hamfest?  C-O-M-P-U-T-E-R-S!  I go to hamfests for R-A-D-I-O-S!  So why
> are there so many computers and no radios?

There are no radios because no real people care about radios.
Tell your friends at RIME I am planning to SPAM all conferences
with the truth about Howard.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: THEY CHARGE TOO MUCH
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 20:08:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: THEY CHARGE TOO MUCH TO G

 >that much running a one time per year event.  Have you checked the price
 >of admission to the auto show, boat show, or computer show lately?  $7 is
 >cheap (the computer show)  $15 for the boat or car show is normal.  And
 >the food is even more expensive and worse than at the average hamfest!

Yes, but there, you get your money's worth!  What do you get at a
hamfest?  C-O-M-P-U-T-E-R-S!  I go to hamfests for R-A-D-I-O-S!  So why
are there so many computers and no radios?

Keep it under $5 and they'll come-even with the lack of radios.

---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:53 1996
From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #158 (for air through 4/12/95)
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 96 02:51:30 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #158 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 12-Apr:
-
1.   Bill in Congress Seeks Protection for VEs, Amateur Auxiliary
2.   Wisconsin Legislature to Vote on PRB-1 Clone
3.   Late Commerce Secretary a Friend of the Amateur Community
4.   FCC Commissioner Resigns after Seven Years of Service
5.   DA Seeks Death Penalty for Murderer of Two Louisiana Hams
6.   ARRL President Appoints New Delta Division Vice Director
7.   N4KSO Resigns, League Designates New Virginia SM
8.   "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
9.   Weekly Propagation Forecast with George Bowen, N2LQS
10.  American Astronaut Aboard Mir Active on 144 MHz Using R0MIR
11.  Send Your Name and Call Sign to Saturn - An Update
12.  AMSAT-URE Establishes Spanish Language Web Page
13.  Broadcasters Lobby Congress to Keep Broadcast TV Free
14.  "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #973 from Los Angeles
15.  "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
16.  Special Event Station Calendar
17.  "This Week" Satellite Service Ends - A Look at What Happened
-
Funding for the program's transmission and production expense was
provided this week by a grant from Dana Rodakis, AJ1R, of St.
Petersburg, Florida, where listeners can hear "This Week in
Amateur Radio" on the AJ1R repeater system on 51.84, 145.23,
147.285, 442.075, 443.625, and 443.95 MHz serving Florida's Central
Gulf Coast.
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard each Saturday at 8:00 PM (ET) and carried on VHF/UHF
repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.
Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
NOTICE:  Due to the dissolution of the "Tech Talk Network", the
service WILL NOT be carried on satellite.  Last minute negotiations
to maintain operations on Telesat Canada Anik E2 through SKYVISION
were unsuccessful.  Discussions with other satellite carriers for
the donation or lease of satellite space continue in earnest.  When
a new agreement is reached, "This Week in Amateur Radio" will return
to satellite air.  Details will be posted as conditions warrant.
All affiliates are requested to contact the producers for further
information.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:54 1996
From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Traveling to CA
Date: 7 Apr 1996 03:10:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4k7bmm$[e-mail]>
References: <4k4hbq$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

You can use a portable six or what I do is announce I am visiting mobile.
Got the royal treatment while in New Orleans last month -- repeater folks
gave me all kind of good info -- best cajun food, museums, attractions
etc.

73
Rod

--
*****************************************************************
Hark! I Have Hurled My Words To The Far Reaches Of The Earth!
What King Of Old Could Do Thus ?  --- AC6V
*****************************************************************
A Man May Know Of The World Without Leaving The Shelter Of His
Own Home!
Loa-Tsze
*****************************************************************




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:55 1996
From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Traveling to CA
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 96 13:14:45 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k4hbq$[e-mail]>

Take along a repeater directory - I find that a big help.  When the repeater
ID comes up, make sure the CW matches the call sign in the directory.  Use
this to say "This is KB9MXD portable 6 listening N6ICW Sacramento" or somethin
g
to that effect.

I find that this works fairly well.  Often outsiders are ignored when calling
on a repeater, but if you take the time to let them know you are fromoutside
the area and that you know what you're doing, that problem is
diminished substantially.  Good luck, and enjoy your trip!

73 de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Stillwater, NY
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:56 1996
From: "Bill Scholey" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TS-430 Only 50 Watts Out
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 07:39:10 PST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

On Mon, 8 Apr 1996 13:21:04 GMT,
[e-mail]  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>My brother has a Kenwood TS-430 and it only has about 50 watts out
>and he was hoping that someone has seen this problem before, and can
>help with a solution.  E-mail me [e-mail]  Thanks   Tim Cook
>
Tim.. I had a similar problem with low output.  The solution in my case
was to resolder the the thru connections of the finals on the pcb.
Mine has been working fine since then.
Good luck
Bill


        Bill Scholey VE7QC
        Packet Radio AX.25 Mailbox  - ve7qc@ve7rob.#vanc.bc.ca.noam
        Packet Radio TCP/IP Mailbox - [e-mail]
        Internet id                 - [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:57 1996
From: John & Melinda <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian,rec.music.classical,rec.music.industrial,,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.skydiving,rec.sport.golf,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.skating.ice.figure,rec.sport.tennis,rec.travel.air,rec.woodworking,sci.astro,sci.med,sci.physics,sci.stat.math
Subject: Re: Turn $5 into $5,000! Read and see how!
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 00:13:55 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k6nog$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

the kid wrote:
>
> shithead

shithead shithead


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:54:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Amdur)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian,rec.music.classical,rec.music.industrial,,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.skydiving,rec.sport.golf,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.skating.ice.figure,rec.sport.tennis,rec.travel.air,rec.woodworking,sci.astro,sci.med,sci.physics,sci.stat.m
Subject: Re: Turn $5 into $5,000! Read and see how!
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 22:12:28 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k6nog$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4k9dgp$[e-mail]>

In article <4k9dgp$[e-mail]>, "Rafael Martinez, Jr."
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> John & Melinda <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >the kid wrote:
> >>
> >> shithead
> >
> >shithead shithead
>
> cabeza de mierda (shithead shithead shithead)

I'll see your cabeza de mierda and raise you a tete de merde and throw in
a Scheisskopf for good measure!!!
*********************
From Jeff the cunning linguist, wondering how El Spamito here chose
*these* particular newsgroups to post to:

rec.music.christian, rec.music.classical, rec.music.industrial, ,
rec.radio.amateur.misc, rec.skydiving, rec.sport.golf,
rec.sport.pro-wrestling, rec.sport.skating.ice.figure, rec.sport.tennis,
rec.travel.air, rec.woodworking, sci.astro, sci.med, sci.physics,
sci.stat.m

Christian music, pro wrestling and physics?????

--
Jeff Amdur
Quality foreign language instruction since 1971 (Oy, gevalt! THAT long?!?)
Quality timekeeping for sports events since 1973
Doing all that stuff at Arundel High School in Gambrills, Md. since 1977
e-mail    [e-mail]       or  (VERY last resort)  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Boris Blazevic)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian,rec.music.classical,rec.music.industrial,,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.skydiving,rec.sport.golf,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.skating.ice.figure,rec.sport.tennis,rec.travel.air,rec.woodworking,sci.astro,sci.med,sci.physics,sci.stat.math
Subject: Re: Turn $5 into $5,000! Read and see how!
Date: 8 Apr 1996 15:45:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kbcb7$[e-mail]>
References: <4k6nog$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

John & Melinda ([e-mail]) wrote:
> the kid wrote:
> >
> > shithead

> shithead shithead

shithead shithead shithead shithead shithead shithead shithead shithead


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:01 1996
From: Tim <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian,rec.music.classical,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.progressive,rec.org.sca,rec.pets,rec.pets.cats,rec.pets.herp,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.skydiving,rec.sport.golf,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.skating.ice.figure,rec.sport.tennis,rec.travel.air,rec.woodworking,sci.astro,sci.med,sci.physics,sci.stat.math
Subject: Re: Turn $5 into $5,000! Read and see how!
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 20:11:09 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k6nog$[e-mail]> <4k7cdv$[e-mail]>

Gary Cruse wrote:
>
>         My gawd!  An attached file to a Usenet posting.
>         Don't hold your breath waiting for the money to
>         flow in, stupid one.
>
> In <4k6nog$[e-mail]> $$$@money.com (A.R.B.) writes:
> >
> >   For less than the price of that CD you have been wanting you can
> make
> >enough money to buy ALL the CD's (or CD players) you want! Turn your
> $5
> >into thousands now! Download the attached file and read about this
> >easy and quick method! Why not give it a try? You have spent more than
> >$5 on lunch... this time your money will make an incredible profit!


It says give it to Hillary Clinton..she knows how to do that and takes a
small commission

http://www.whitehouse.gov


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:02 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joe Mack)
Subject: Re: TYPICAL CODE TESTS?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:00:03 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> John Robertson <[e-mail]> writes:
>Anyone able to provide some typical code test (text) for the EXTRA or
>a lead as to where to look. Any newsgroups focused on this?
>
I belong to a VE group and dont' have any exams here with me, but
all belong to the same formula


it's


WZ3abc de w3zzz

        Hi (Operators name), glad to hear about your (rig name, antenna
name, dog's name). WX here in (town name, state) is
(whatever). I've always wanted to (take a trip to ...,
be a stamp collector...). My (dog, wife, pet fish) are
here in the (shack, car, tent) with me.

        73 wz3abs de w3zzz r

The things in brackets are answers to the questions.

Joe NA3T
        [e-mail]








From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Vanity Calls -- What gate???
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 14:49:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4kb91k$[e-mail]>


Anybody have a clue what gate the FCC is currently accepting for
vanities?

Jim


Jim Weir VP Engineering | You bet your sweet patootie I speak for the
RST Engineering         | company.  If I don't, ain't nobody gonna.
Grass Valley CA 95945   |
http://www.rst-engr.com | AR Adv WB6BHI--FCC 1/C phone--Cessna 182A N73CQ
[e-mail]        | Commercial/CFI-Airplane/Glider-----A&P Mechanic



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:04 1996
From: usao6ret <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Calls -- What gate???
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 22:08:14 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kb91k$[e-mail]> <4kb9tt$[e-mail]>

Douglas Nelson wrote:
>
> Jim Weir ([e-mail]) wrote:
> :
> : Anybody have a clue what gate the FCC is currently accepting for
> : vanities?
> :
> : Jim
>
> Last I heard, they weren't going to open any of the gates until June or
> July.
>
> Doug K4JGWActually, don't look for any gates to be opened this year.  What h
appened
was what one can expect in this age.
It seems that the FCC was hit with several petititons challenging parts
of the vanity call sign program.  Remember that one of the first gates to
open gives a family member the opportunity to get the call sign of a
decesaed family member if the individual making the request holds a
license equal to or higher than the grade of the deceased.  That was a
point of several petitions -- if Dad was an Extra and I am a Novice, I
should still be able to get his call.
So, we all sit around and wait on a few crybabies.  Oh, excuse me.  I
forgot this is the land of the free and the home of the brave and all
opinions are equally valuable.
No gates open now and none likely to open until the end of the year.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Vanity Callsigns/Unused C
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 23:16:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: SCJONES@
Subject: Vanity Callsigns/Unused Callsign list on internet

S>Anyone seen a listing of expired callsigns which might be available for
vanit >use?
 >I ran across one in last week but can't remember where.  Thought it might be
 >fcc but guess not.
 >Maybe at a man's homepage in TX or NM or ? I think???
 >I was looking for a copy of SuperMorse and/or NuMorse when I ran across it I
 >believe.

W5YI sells one on diskette in QST.  That's probably where you saw it.
Once the vanity callsign program gets underway, the list will change so
fast that the diskette will be obsolete by the time it arrives at your
house.
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike D'alto)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Callsigns/Unused C
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 16:56:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4k5t9o$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (ROLAND STINER) wrote:



>W5YI sells one on diskette in QST.  That's probably where you saw it.
>Once the vanity callsign program gets underway, the list will change so
>fast that the diskette will be obsolete by the time it arrives at your
>house.
>---
>   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

Roland,
    I hope this gets to you.  I realize it doesn't belong in this
thread, but I had to touch base with you.  Quite a few things have
changed on this end.  I'll try to catch you on the landline to fill
you in.
73, Mike




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Heli Maki)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Voices cruising in the air
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 23:17:24 +0300
Message-ID: <4k9823$[e-mail]>

Has anybody ever heard a possibility to talk direct to somebody's
ears/head from 200 kilometers away? What kind of equipment is needed
for that? What kind of transmitter and receiver you would need for
that to suprise somebody totally? The receiver at least should be as
small as possible and not to notice easily.

What about radio waves genarally? What you need to catch them from the
air? How is the right frequency adjusted? What kind of traffic in the
air is possible to follow? Are there frequencies that are not allowed
to listen. How is that prevented?




#(:-) Heli-muori #(.-) [e-mail] #(;-) [phone] #(%-D



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jack Kovar  KE0AX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WANT TO BUY: LOWE HF-150
Date: 5 Apr 1996 04:00:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4k25sk$[e-mail]>

        I would like to find a LOWE HF-150 for $350 or less.

                                        Jack Kovar
                                        [e-mail]
                                        KE0AX



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:09 1996
From: M. Berglund <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanting To Sell Yaesu FT-26 (Australia)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 6 Apr 96 11:18:32 GMT

I have no got my radio license and I would very much like to
sell my hand-held A$390 o.n.o


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What about 220Mhz? (was:
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 96 20:33:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: What about 220Mhz? (was: 2 meter or 440Mhz?)

 >The people at HRO are downright rude when I ask about
 >220 gear!

Sounds like they don't mind missing a sale!

---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: When is Seaside, OR Fest?
Date: 6 Apr 1996 22:43:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4k6s38$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>What are the dates and does someone have an information and/or tickets phone
>number or address?
>
>The magazines seem to be the last thing that comes through the forwarding.
>
>   _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
>  _/_/ Robert W. Odell (WA2WLH)         Voice: [phone] _/_/
> _/_/  Bothell, Washington, USA                 CP-ASEL,AMEL _/_/
>_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
>

June 1  & 2 1996, info 503/657-1781
More info also available at Ham Radio Online in the Announcement's section.
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

73, Ed, KF7VY
--
------------------------
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personal email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:12 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WORKED ALL BRITAIN
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 96 12:14:17 EDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k3t6f$[e-mail]>


In Article<4k3t6f$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
> Path:
news1.mnsinc.com!server.esva.net!athos.itribe.net!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.
c
om!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e
2
a.gnn.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail
> From: [e-mail] (G1NTW)
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: WORKED ALL BRITAIN
> Date: 5 Apr 1996 14:44:15 -0500
> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
> Lines: 6
> Sender: [e-mail]
> Message-ID: <4k3t6f$[e-mail]>
> Reply-To: [e-mail] (G1NTW)
> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com
>
> Hi,
>      Are there any Worked all Britain bookholders out there? if so I would
> like
> to hear from you.
>
>     73's from  Norman   G1NTW @ AOL.COM

Hello Norman, Im book holder # 9482.
Havnt been active in WAB for years, but maybe oneday.
73s Kyle

Check out my pages and pass the word !

www.moonstar.com/~wa4pgm/welcome



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 09 17:55:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bostonian)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTD:   RCA WT-100A TUBE TESTER
Date: 3 Apr 1996 00:21:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4jsgaa$[e-mail]>

RCA WT-100A and/or Hickok 700 tube tester wanted.  Seeking unit in good
running condition, needing some repairs or for parts (if I later come across
a working unit).  Willing to swap for something or please state a fair price
for the respective unit.  I would prefer swapping something as cash is tight,
but I would have to find out what you are looking for -- I may have it.
Please indicate if you have manuals, schematics, charts and/or plug-in tube
sockets for the respective tube tester.

Kindly, email with details.

Thank you.



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radi
Subject: Re: ! Attention Software Authors !
Date: 13 Apr 1996 13:09:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4ko91n$[e-mail]>
References: <NEWTNews.829091616.3336.amsoft@amsoft>

In article <NEWTNews.829091616.3336.amsoft@amsoft>, [e-mail] says:
>
>
>ATTENTION AUTHORS OF AMATEUR RADIO, SWL, AND ELECTRONIC SOFTWARE!
>
>If your software is shareware, freeware or public domain, AmSoft
>would like to include your software in our publication of The
>World of Ham Radio CD-ROM.  If you only have a commercial version
>you may want to think about a shareware version with registration.
>Most authors have had good returns on registrations from the first
>year of publishing thier software on this CD-ROM.  If 50 users
>registered your program from our CD-ROM publication, what would that
>convert to in income for you?  Please give this some thought and let
>us here at AmSoft know if you would like to publish your works on
>the AmSoft CD-ROM.  If you decide to publish on our CD please
>upload your software to our FTP site and send me an E-Mail letter of
>authorization to publish your software on the AmSoft CD-ROM.
>
>NOTE: DEADLINE FOR NEXT CD-ROM IS APRIL 29, 1996
>
>The FTP site is HAMSTER.BUSINESS.UWO.CA directory /PUB/AMSOFT
>
>
>
>
I give you authorization to publish my software on the AmSoft CD-ROM.
The FTP site of this software is ftp.ucsd.edu
Directory :"/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming "
The name is CWMSTXRX.ZIP and CWMSTXRX.TXT

Jean-Pierre MALEZET F6FLV


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:34 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 144mhz 1.5Kw amp....i forgot
Date: 13 Apr 1996 11:01:56 -0400
Message-ID: <4kofl4$[e-mail]>

same thing, but 144Mhz FM/ssb/cw 1500W amp

david
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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:35 1996
From: "grene (Chris Trottier)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2 Meter Information
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 01:22:13 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I started out in CB a while back and decided to go get my Novice
Licence so I could 'get away from' 11 meters.  10 meters was real
exciting at first but my interest began to fade.  It just wasnt exciting
anymore to make a contact.

I have decided to go take my Tech test before the Novice expires.  I
would liek to know or know where I can find more information on the
capabilities of 2 meter radios.  I have heard alot autopatches and
repeaters on 2 meters.  Can I really use a 2 meter handheld like a
cellular phone and call up a friend from the woods?

I would also like to knwo what goes on on 2 meters?, is it just alot of
casual conversation, or are there contests?

Please send any available inforation on the uses of the 2 meter Ham Band
to

            _ \_/ _
           [_] _ [_]  Chris Trottier aka grene
           |_,(_),_|  [e-mail]
           \ =___= /  http://www.serve.com/grene
            ./   \.   http://www.net-link.net/~grene/index.html



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 200 Mhz
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 12:29:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: 200 Mhz

L>    Didn't parts of the 220 Mhz band get reassigned to some mobile
 >radiotelephone service?

Yes, 220 MHz to 222 MHz.

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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: [Q] Are their any CW sources around?
Date: 10 Apr 1996 17:42:00 +0200
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi folks,

is their anybody who knows about net sources for Morse code
enthusiasts?
Any discussions groups or mailing lists?

If you know specific sources for CW enthusiasts or
if u just want to get in touch with a fellow CW fan, just drop me a
line.

--... ...--

[e-mail]

.-.-.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:38 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLB020 Milt Chaffee, W1EFW, SK
Date: 9 Apr 1996 19:34:28 -0400
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB QST @ ARL $ARLB020
ARLB020 Milt Chaffee, W1EFW, SK

ZCZC AG99
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 20  ARLB020
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  April 9, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB020
ARLB020 Milt Chaffee, W1EFW, SK

Past New England Division Director Milton E. Chaffee, W1EFW, of
Southington, Connecticut, died April 8, 1996. Milt was 83. He served
as director from 1957 through 1964. Milt was a long-time ARRL member
and official, and served in many League capacities, including
assistant section manager and section traffic manager in
Connecticut.  He was an active CW and traffic enthusiast. He also
served on the QCWA board of directors.

Connecticut Section Manager Betsey Doane, K1EIC, called Milt's
passing ''the end of an era.'' ARRL Executive Vice President David
Sumner, K1ZZ, added: ''Milt was a stalwart traffic handler who set
and maintained the standards for the rest of us for more than 40
years.''

A memorial service for Milt Chaffee is set for Sunday, April 14, 1
PM, at The First Congregational Church, Route 10, Southington,
Connecticut. A reception will follow.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:39 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLP015 Propagation de KT7H
Date: 12 Apr 1996 20:26:29 -0400
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


 SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP015
ARLP015 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP36
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 15  ARLP015
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  April 12, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP015
ARLP015 Propagation de KT7H

The Sun is spotless.  There have been no visible sunspots for six
of the past seven days, and the average solar flux is a point lower
than last week.  As mentioned in ARLP014, we should be at the
beginning of the sunspot minimum, and the solar flux minimum should
occur later this year.

The last propagation bulletin had a confusing error which mentioned
both 158 and 192 as the solar flux for April, 1999.  Actually 192
is the projected average solar flux for April, 2000.

This month the geomagnetic field should stay stable, but April 17
and 18 could bring a recurring moderate disturbance.  The solar
flux should rise above 70 by April 18 through 24, and go back below
70 after May 3.

Sunspot Numbers for April 4 through 10 were 11, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 and
0, with a mean of 1.6.  10.7 cm flux was 70.2, 69.9, 68.7, 68.4,
68.4, 69 and 68.8, with a mean of 69.1.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:41 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLX009 W3A QRV
Date: 12 Apr 1996 20:26:32 -0400
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>



SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX009
ARLX009 W3A QRV

ZCZC AX55
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 9  ARLX009
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  April 12, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX009
ARLX009 W3A QRV

Ham radio has part in National Musical Arts event

Amateur Radio will play a role at a musical and historical event
April 12-14 at the National Academy of Sciences in Washington, DC.
Special event station W3A starts operation at 0000 April 13 and
continues for the next 48 hours. Run by members of the Potomac
Valley Radio Club, W3A plans to operate approximately 47 kHz up from
band edges.

The event is in conjunction with National Musical Arts
end-of-the-season concert, ''Radio and Music,'' set for April 14. The
concert commemorates the 95th anniversary of Gugliemo Marconi's
first transatlantic radio transmission and the 70th anniversary of
NBC. The musical program includes the work ''Radio Music,'' by John
Cage, as well as compositions by Paul Schonfield and Peter
Schickele, otherwise known as P.D.Q. Bach.

Leonard Schachter, N3RPQ, has loaned part of his vintage radio
collection for the presentation of ''Radio Music,'' to be performed by
Schickele, Nobel laureate Joseph H. Taylor Jr and National Academy
of Sciences President Bruce M. Alberts.

Frank Turano, KA3GAL, will display Marconi memorabilia, including a
magnetic detector, spark transmitter, receiver and telegraph key.

Representatives of the ARRL will host an informational Amateur Radio
exhibit during the event.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:42 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLX010 GA call STA
Date: 12 Apr 1996 20:26:19 -0400
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>



SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX010
ARLX010 GA call STA

ZCZC AX56
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 10  ARLX010
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  April 12, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX010
ARLX010 GA call STA

FCC okays special Olympics call signs for Georgia

Hams operating within the state of Georgia may use special call
signs from April 15 until August 31, 1996, to commemorate the 1996
Olympics, under a Special Temporary Authority issued by the FCC.

Here's how it works: An FCC-licensed radio amateur operating in
Georgia with a ''4'' in his or her call sign may replace that number
with ''96'' (representing the year) or ''26'' (commemorating the 26th
Olympiad) during the period of the STA. Hams with any number in
their call signs and operating within the State of Georgia may add
''00'' to the existing number (to mark the centennial year of the
Olympic Games).

For example, WA4BKD in Georgia also could identify as WA96BKD,
WA26BKD or WA400BKD, while NG3K, when operating in Georgia, could
identify only as NG300K or as NG3K.

The Olympics start in July. The STA stemmed from an initiative by
James Altman, N4UCK, of Atlanta and the Georgia Amateur Radio
Operators Group he organized, with the support of ARRL.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:43 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLX011 WD8PSX, SK
Date: 12 Apr 1996 20:26:26 -0400
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>



SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX011
ARLX011 WD8PSX, SK

ZCZC AX57
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 11  ARLX011
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  April 12, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX011
ARLX011 WD8PSX, SK

Joseph F. Haefner, WD8PSX, SK

Joe Haefner, WD8PSX, who served as Michigan s Official Observer
coordinator for the past three years, died unexpectedly April 11,
1996. He was 71. Joe lived in Garden City, Michigan, and was an
active member of the Garden City Amateur Radio Club.

Michigan Section Manager Dale Williams, WA8EFK, said Joe s passing
''leaves a gap in the section'' that will be hard to fill. ''He did a
marvelous job,'' he said. ''He was very conscientious.''

A wife and daughter survive. Arrangements are incomplete at this
time.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:45 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: qrz
Subject: Re: ARO's Suck
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j8fff$[e-mail]> <4jek38$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 22:45:50 GMT

Peter A. Klein ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4j8fff$[e-mail]>,
: Jim Kehler <[e-mail]> wrote:

: >I've been reading the amateur radio newsgroups for the last few weeks
: >and so far, this is what I have learned:

: >1.  Some people don't like. . .[long laundry list deleted]

: >Is there ever any discussion of anything that anybody DOES like
: >in these newsgroups, or are they basically used by people who
: >are looking for an output to vent frustration about things they
: >don't like ?

: >I am also rather new to the internet, which leads me to my second
: [snip]
: >speak ? Is this standard internet operating proceedure ?
: >Is this a replacement for Radio Fun while the HF bands are dead ?
: >Is there anywhere I can go to read things about Ham Radio that
: >other people DO like, maybe I'm in the wrong newsgroup ?

: Welcome to the Internet.  I once saw it described in a cartoon as a
: 12-lane superhighway gridlocked with garbage trucks.  That is too harsh,
: but it often applies.  The "Net" is a self-selecting group of people.
: Some of us are on here to exchange ideas and get information.  Many
: others simply like to debate or lecture, and will often provoke others
: just for the sheer pleasure of a good fight.  And because people are
: not face-to-face, they will indulge in rudeness most would never
: think of doing in person.

: Remember Theodore Sturgeon's Law:  "Ninety percent of everything is crap."
: That applies here, too.  Since it's easy to scream at the whole world with
: a few keystrokes, there's a lot of nonsense posted.

: The best thing you can do is ignore or filter out the garbage, and get
: what you can out of the other ten percent.  A news reader that sorts
: messages by subject lets you select only what interests you.  A "kill
: file" lets you filter out subjects and authors you don't wish to
: encounter again.  Used wisely, they make the Net much more pleasurable
: and informative.

: But I must say I'm glad I'm online.  Every so often I pick up a good
: technical tip.  I keep in touch with happenings in the classical music and
: theatre world, and even made a couple of lasting friendships online.  I
: learned most of what I know about satellites on the Net.  I've had a ball
: watching Comet Hyakutake using a star chart and schedule I downloaded from
: the Web, and I've been looking at comet pictures from all over the world
: (with stuff like that, who needs pornography :-)

: After a while, some people's outrageous behavior will cease to bother you.
: It just comes with the territory--and sometimes it can be good comic relief.

: 73,
: Peter - KD7MW
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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tor Arne Larsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Buy: KENWOOD TR-851
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 16:10:32 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi, folks...

I'm looking for a Kenwood tr-851 70cm all mode. Has anyone one to offer me??
I'm allso interested in other allmode 70cm, not to expencive.
Live in Norway...


- [e-mail] -



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: 8 Apr 1996 12:54:17 -0400
Message-ID: <4kbgbp$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnbqh$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]>

In article <4k6emn$[e-mail]>,
Cecil A. Moore~ <[e-mail]> wrote:
>method. At 5wpm, it's easy to just write down the dots and
>dashes. Then during the multiple choice test, it's easy

Not every VE team will let you copy down an entire text's worth of dots and
dashes. (I had a big fight with one particular member of the VE team with
which I was affiliated, but then it turns out that my schedule won't let me
VE anyway, so the point is moot. That particular VE team *won't* let you copy
dots-and-dashes: see http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~alan/ham/exam-rules.html
for details.)

>73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:48 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: 9 Apr 1996 18:04:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4ke8qn$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnbqh$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]> <4kbgbp$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman) wrote:
>In article <4k6emn$[e-mail]>,
>Cecil A. Moore~ <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>method. At 5wpm, it's easy to just write down the dots and
>>dashes. Then during the multiple choice test, it's easy
>
>Not every VE team will let you copy down an entire text's worth of dots and
>dashes. (I had a big fight with one particular member of the VE team with
>which I was affiliated, but then it turns out that my schedule won't let me
>VE anyway, so the point is moot. That particular VE team *won't* let you copy
>dots-and-dashes: see http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~alan/ham/exam-rules.html
>for details.)

Looking there I found the following:

"Writing down dots and dashes and then after-the-fact transcription to
text does not demonstrate the ability to translate (copy) the Morse code
at the FCC required transmssion speed.  Please do not transcribe dots and
dashes or your exam will be deemed invalid."

Why do they care how you write it down?  What if I write in shorthand?
What if I don't write down anything at all?

Writing dots and dashes is not a very efficient way of copying code (and
certainly isn't practical for 13 or 20 wpm) but I would say that it is
copy - if you can answer the questions using whatever you writen down
(not using anything else other than your brain).

Seems rather presumptuious of the CUARC-VE to say dictate how you copy
code with your pencil and paper.





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:50 1996
From: "George J. Molnar" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 08:36:42 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jnbqh$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Cecil A. Moore~ wrote:
> it's easy to just write down the dots and
> dashes. Then during the multiple choice test, it's easy
> to translate what one needs.

When I conducted VE tests, our team preamble specifically prohibited examinees
from using this method. The code requirement is designed to test the ability t
o
copy BY EAR, unless some disability prevents doing so.

Plus, copying down dots and dashes is a lousy way to learn Morse -- it is a
language of sound, not dots & dashes.

73
--
George J. Molnar
Highlands Ranch, Colorado
Amateur Radio: KF2T@N0QCU.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM
http://www.interealm.com/p/gmolnar/index.html


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:51 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jnbqh$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]><4kbgbp$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 21:22:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Codeless General?

Actually, you can write down anything you want.  BUT, the VE team
does not have to accept dots and dashes as letters.  It is up to
the VE team as to whether or not to allow ANY dot and dash
combination to count.  However, after saying that, I do know that
if you translate them, you had better be sure it is ok, cause any
mark on a piece of paper can be counted as a mistake.  So be sure
to ask what they do at any particular session.

Pat Wilson
N0RDQ

In article <4kbgbp$[e-mail]>, Jerry B.
Altzman ([e-mail]) writes: >In article
<4k6emn$[e-mail]>, >Cecil A. Moore~
<[e-mail]> wrote: >>method. At 5wpm, it's easy to
just write down the dots and >>dashes. Then during the multiple
choice test, it's easy >
>Not every VE team will let you copy down an entire text's worth of dots and
>dashes. (I had a big fight with one particular member of the VE team with
>which I was affiliated, but then it turns out that my schedule won't let me
>VE anyway, so the point is moot. That particular VE team *won't* let you copy
>dots-and-dashes: see http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~alan/ham/exam-rules.html
>for details.)
>
>>73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)
>
>//jbaltz
>--
>jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
>[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML
>



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:52 1996
From: Jim Daneke <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:58:48 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jnbqh$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

George J. Molnar wrote:
>
> Cecil A. Moore~ wrote:
> > it's easy to just write down the dots and
> > dashes. Then during the multiple choice test, it's easy
> > to translate what one needs.
>
> When I conducted VE tests, our team preamble specifically prohibited examine
es
> from using this method. The code requirement is designed to test the ability
 to > copy BY EAR, unless some disability prevents doing so.

> Plus, copying down dots and dashes is a lousy way to learn Morse -- it is a
> language of sound, not dots & dashes.
> Come to my VE session. We hate Morse code and you can use any LEGAL
method to pass. We also use multiple choice questions to answer about
what you copied. If you hate morse code and only want to pass the stupid
test, Call the VE team ahead of time and make sure they use multiple
choice. We want to get people into the hobby, not chase them away like
BOZO up there.

73  --... ...--

Jim .--- .. --

KI0BB  -.-  ..  -----  -...  -...


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 15:37:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4kj90n$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnbqh$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Cecil A. Moore~ wrote:
>> it's easy to just write down the dots and dashes.
>When I conducted VE tests, our team preamble specifically prohibited examinee
s
>from using this method. The code requirement is designed to test the ability
to
>copy BY EAR, unless some disability prevents doing so.

Indeed, and precisely which organ did the examinee use to hear the dots
and dashes and write them down?

You're not trying to claim that one's ear does the translation, are you?
Most people would agree it's the brain that does so.  And it would seem
to me that an intermediate step of using the hand and eyes doesn't rule
that invalid.

I believe that the "by ear" restriction is to prohibit mechanical
translating devices, not to force a particular copying protocol.

If your VE group can provide a reference to a written rule or official
opinion that says that listening to and writing down the sounds, then
transcribing them to characters later is not "reception by ear", then
please do so.  Otherwise you are making up restrictions on your own
initiative, and should stop doing so.  By court order, if necessary.
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Cecil A. Moore~)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: 12 Apr 1996 04:20:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kkllr$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnbqh$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
George J. Molnar <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>When I conducted VE tests, our team preamble specifically prohibited examinee
s
>from using this method. The code requirement is designed to test the ability
to
>copy BY EAR, unless some disability prevents doing so.

Hi George, I wasn't suggesting using some other part of the
body rather than BY EAR. What other part do you have in mind?

Writing down dots and dashes is simply one additional step
in the decoding process. It's not efficient, but I don't
see anything morally wrong with it especially for handi-
capped potential hams (the original subject). Are you
actually saying that you would not allow a severely
handicapped Morse code testee to write down dots and
dashes. If so, I hope you have to walk a mile in their
shoes in your next life.

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Commemorative Olympic Calls
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4kc3p5$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:57:44 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey) writes:
>Jim Altman ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Re:          Special Commemorative Olympic Callsigns
>:      The STA provides: Any ham operating within the State of Georgia with
>: a 4 in his/her call sign may replace it with a 96 or a 26.  Amateurs
>
>What is the significance of 26?  How does one decide between
>96 or 26?  Inquiring Georgia minds want to know.

It is the 26th Olympiad of the modern era I think. As to which one to
choose, that's up to you. As a side note, if you're thinking of having
special QSL cards printed, don't forget you can't use the words "Olympics"
or "Atlanta 96" or the 5 rings on your card. ACOG will sue you.

And a reminder, Delta is still offering low fares *out* of Atlanta
during the Olympics. Me, I want the hardhat concession for the venues,
if any are still standing when the Games begin. :-)

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Eugene L. Olson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQ - SHAWANO, WISCONSIN
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 07:48:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4kd4pn$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I grew up in Shawano, Wisconsin and graduated from Shawano High School
in 1953.   If any of the Amateur Radio operators in Shawano read this
newsgroup I would sure like to hear from you.

Here's hoping.

"Ole"
[e-mail]


====================================================
Eugene L. Olson, ("Ole") - Amateur Radio Call: KC0RL
Packet Home BBS: KC0RL @ W0LKD.#SECO.CO.USA.NA
Internet EMAIL: [e-mail]
====================================================



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:58 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:10:40 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <4k0e3j$[e-mail]>, David <[e-mail]>
writes
>Honestly people like you making me ******* sick!

OOOOOOH! - looks like I missed some fun whilst away dragging my caravan
to the Cotswolds and back!

It seems that you upset him Walt?

Mike

Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:47:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (anonymous)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 09:33:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4kijle$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, Michael J Wooding <vhf-comm@g
6iqm.demon.co.uk> says:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, Eltec International PLC
><[e-mail]> writes
>>>We've even got two so-called comedians making a joke of asking
>>>when is a gate not a gate, when its a Bill!
>>>
>>***SIGH*** He even got the punch line wrong :-(
>
>Never mind Peter - there's no accounting for taste - or lack of it.
>
>Anyway, at least I have gained some recognition, a *so-called comedien*!
>
>you be a comedian, but you'll never be a book editor with spelling skills
like that.
>
>Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
>WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
>WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
>Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
>KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
>VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:00 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Message-ID: <4klh8a$[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail](David)
Date: 12 Apr 1996 12:10:50 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Michael J Wooding <vhf-comm@g
6iqm.demon.co.uk> says:
>
>In article <4kijle$[e-mail]>, anonymous
><[e-mail]> writes
>>>you be a comedian, but you'll never be a book editor with spelling skills
>>like that.
>
>Take a look at the Guardian or the Times some days and you will see far
>worse than that.
>
>Incidentally, I was editor of CQ-TV for 11 years, have been editor of
>VHF Communications for 6 years (as well as owning and publishing it) and
>have written, edited and published several books over the past 12 years.
>
>And what is more, I have the courage of my convictions to admit to who I
>am!
>
>So do I, but I don't want half of the lunatics on here coming round to my hou
se
or phoning me up.

Just putting your name and address on the page doesn't make you any more
of a man than if you actually dared people to phone you up or went
round people's houses smashing windows.

I've got a right to privacy and I'm using it.

You know my name is David so stop all this rubbish about how big you are
just because you have your name and address on the page and in future keep rem
arks like that
to yourself.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:01 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 20:22:48 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <4klh8a$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes
>You know my name is David so stop all this rubbish about how big you are
>just because you have your name and address on the page and in future keep
>remarks like that
>to yourself.

I beg to differ that I did not know your name was David.  The message I
responded to was from *anonymous*.  As for all this talk about how big I
am, I was just responding to your comments about me never being an
editor.

As for keeping such remarks to myself - go bury your head.

Mike

Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (David)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 09:31:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4kijhd$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]> <4jb82l$r4g@news. <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John R
ice) says:
>
>In article <4jopht$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David) write
s:
>
>>So why did someone reply back to my original posting saying things
>>should be back like the good old days then? Seems to me you have to be a
>>stereotype to operate a ham radio? That's what I mean!!
>
>Maybe because in the 'good old days', Ham Radio was a 'Gentlemans
>Hobby'. Ham Radio Operators treated each other with courtesy and tact.
>If this is a 'stereotype', then it's one that I hope I'm still equated
>to.
>
>I like the image of it being a gentleman's hobby. That's why I want to take i
t.
But when old gents like Walt Davidson come on here saying he wants to hit
eleven year old children witha heavy iron files (and I've got the posting if a
nyone wants it via e-mail)
especially so soon after the Dunblane massacre in which 15 children were kille
d I think its in very bad taste.

>You need to keep an open mind and not take 'rantings' personally.
>
>I do take them personally someone says he wants to hit eleven year old childr
en
with iron files. And I think the whole of England, Scotland Ireland and especi
ally Dunblane
would agree with me. Just go and ask the fifteen mother and fathers of the
children who were killed if what Walt Davidson said was in bad taste.
>--------
>
>   John Rice -  K9IJ       | "I speak for myself, not my employer".
>   [e-mail]         |  Miracles, Magic and Sleight-of-hand done here.
>   [e-mail]          |  Licensed since 1959
>   (708)-438-5065 - (bbs ) |  Ex: K8YZR, KH6GHC, WB9CSP, W9MMB, WA1TXV
>


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:03 1996
From: [e-mail](Larry Shilkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dont like Radio  Shack ? Why do you go there?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 21:53:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4kjv1n$[e-mail]>
References: <4kifan$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
writes:
>
>Actually, there are few retail outlets any more
>where the salespeople know anything about the product they sell.
>73 de Jim - KF6CR
>

It ain't limited to retail outlets.  In my work the project on which I
am involved required a stereo jack with an internal SPDT switch.  The
regional sales representative for the particular make of jacks did not
understand "SPDT".  And this is supposed to be a professional!

Larry





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:04 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: For Sale Ads Permitted Here??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:25:02 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>,
   Jeff <jeff@com (Jeff)> wrote:

|
|Q for anyone....
|
|Does this Newsgroup allow or discourage private For-Sale Ads??

Discourage.  That's what rec.radio.swap is for, along with misc.forsale.*
and the regional *.forsale groups.

        /JBL
--
Nets: [e-mail]  |  "GO TO JAIL.  Go directly to jail. Do not pass
  or [e-mail]|  Go.  Do not collect $200."
POTS: [phone]  |
ARS:  KD1ON          |                              -- Parker Brothers


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Chris Hinkle )
Subject: Re: For Sale Ads Permitted Here??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:30:14 GMT

Jeff (jeff@com) wrote:

: Q for anyone....

: Does this Newsgroup allow or discourage private For-Sale Ads??

: Jeff

  The more appropriate place would 'rec.radio.swap'.



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:05 1996
Date: 9 Apr 1996 22:41:34 EST
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jeff@com (Jeff)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Subject: For Sale Ads Permitted Here??


Q for anyone....

Does this Newsgroup allow or discourage private For-Sale Ads??

Jeff


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:06 1996
From: qwick@???????.com (Qwick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: For Sale Ads Permitted Here??
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 06:18:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4kklbm$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

You have something to sell?
Then post it...  no-one can stop you.
What better place to post it?
:)




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:07 1996
From: Michael Neidich <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: FREE Zenith TransOceanic List w/Model Nrs. etc.
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 15:45:49 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

TransOceanic Lovers, owners, and wannabees:

Request my Zenith Transoceanic list that gives model numbers, chassis
numbers, tube count, bands, years of production, identification info.

Put FREE LIST in the body of your reply.

I'm looking for a D7000Y transistor TransOceanic with the two VHF bands
for my own use.  If you have spare tubes for sale, let me know.  I buy
good condition examples, especially leather (Brown) covered models.

Thanks,
K2ENN


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: G4NJH Pages
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 18:01:48 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

A gentle reminder to check out:

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

this week-end.

Enlarged, updated and beautified for your delectation!

6300 visitors can't be wrong.....

73 de
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:09 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: bqrz (BobB)
Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jbq2m$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 22:02:00 GMT

John Kolb ([e-mail]) wrote:
: mlmitchell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : [e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:

: : >
: : >The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest
: : >wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer
: : >
: : >Does this bother anyone? Or am I simply getting too conservative in my
: : >old age?

: : Clint,
: : It is illegal, per part 97, for a dealer who directly has an
: : involvement in the sale or distribution of ham radio equipment to
: : participate in the VE system. I will double check, but I am sure this
: : is what it reads.

: This was changed within the last month by the 1966 Telecom act.

: John Kolb  SANDARC and W5YI VE   KK6IL




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:10 1996
From: lskip
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Getting back into HF - what band do you suggest?
Date: 9 Apr 1996 15:13:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4kduqa$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>  Hi. I have been out of HF ham radio for years, and I'm thinking of
>  putting up an inverted V for one of the bands. Any suggestions on what
>  band I should select for evening use?
>>>>
James,

Right now, I think 40 meters is the best bet for long distance work; 75/80 is
pretty good, and if you have the room, there
seems to be a lot of activity on 160.  I would suggest using open-wire feedlin
e and a tuner, then you can work all bands.
In a few more years, the higher bands should be active again.

73,  Skip,  KL7IXX




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (AC6V)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Great DX Conditions!
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 02:19:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4k9t37$[e-mail]>
References: <4jonqo$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (bill harris) wrote:

>                 Great DX Conditions
>                             or
>           "don't look now but you S-units are showing"
>
>   Did anyone else catch the fantastic band opening last night? I could
>not sleep so I was up late and was tuning around 20 meters when I heard
>the clock strike midnight. Suddenly the band really came to life with
>some great DX stuff. First I heard Romeo Germany 8 Uniform really bang-
>ing in from somewhere in the south Atlantic with a big pile-up on the
>frequency. I picked a spot and dropped in my call. "Mike India Lima go
>ahead". "Germany 8 Uniform, you are 70 over 9, QSL info please." "Not to
>worry India Lima, my card 63% to you via burro." "Aw-Right, got him!"
> ? G0TCHA? What's today? Let's see that
>calendar. Aw rats!
>
>73 - K5MIL

Bill you were receiving LDA's  -- Long delayed echoes!!
Must have been if worked  Mr. R.

73
Rod




Hark: I have hurled my voice to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus ?
-- AC6V



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:13 1996
Date: 10 Apr 1996 11:22:34 EST
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jeff@com (Jeff)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ham Ads Here??


Is this Newsgroup open to Ham-Ads??
Just curious....

Jeff


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Ham Ads Here??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:40:55 GMT

Jeff (jeff@com) wrote:

: Is this Newsgroup open to Ham-Ads??
: Just curious....

I like to see them here, but the net-nazi control freaks usually point
toward rec.radio.swap.

73 de Jim - KF6CR


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Ennes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 9 Apr 1996 04:44:28 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kcpvc$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

I have NO technical ability and don't care to get any.  I have a general
license and can receive CW about 25 WPM.  When my radio doesn't
work I look to see if it's plugged in and if it isn't, I carry it to the
radio store.
However, I love the hobby and think it has a lot of things for
a lot of people.  I think we forget it is a hobby and is supposed to be
fun.  If we have to drop CW to get more people interested in the hobby,
lets
do it.  What is the average age of a ham?  Last time I heard it was
something
like 58.  Now that should tell you we have to do something!!

N7DTD




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:57:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4kjhmh$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4kcpvc$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Dave Ennes) wrote:

>I have NO technical ability and don't care to get any.

>N7DTD


I think your point is well taken. This is a hobby and many of us take
it too seriously. As far as I am concerned, as long as you passed your
exam, you should be free to pursue whatever does or does not interest
you, which of course, includes CW.

I do believe, however, like most old-timers that we should not relax
the standard for admission to our fraternity too much. Needless to say
this is a very controversial subject. I personally would be in favor
of limited HF access (assuming international rules permitted such)
without demonstrating morse proficiency. I believe that those who can
demonstrate this proficiency, however, should be the only ones to hold
higher class licenses..such as advanced or extra..

just my opinion, please go light on the flames!

Bob, KG7WC





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:18 1996
From: Ted Falkowsky <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:40:36 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4kcpvc$[e-mail]> <4kjhmh$[e-mail]> <4kjqut$[e-mail]>

Vincent Biancomano wrote:
>
>  I believe your point is badly taken. Amateur radio is DEFINED as
>  a technical hobby in Part 97.1, and is the reason we were once
>  able to justify our frequencies, as implied in the FCC Docket
>  for Incentive Licensing (see QST, April 1966, p. 26). If FCC
>  wishes to officially declare a personal radio or Citizens-Band
>  type service, it is free to do so. FCC says we're a technical
>  hobby and will remain that way. Yet they continue to ease
>  requirements into the Service. The Amateur Service, unable to
>  grasp this set of conflicting statements and circumstances,
>  thus understandably finds itself confused....and always on
>  the defensive when it comes to commercial interests who
>  wish to peck away at our frequency allocations.
>
>  Meanwhile, as we've deregulated, we've lost frequency allocation
>  (see Amateur Radio Spectrum Protection Act). Keeping our
>  frequencies is indeed a serious issue. And amateurs should
>  do all they can to find out what they need to do to keep them.
>  That means finding out from FCC/ARRL in no-nonsense fashion if
>  the Service yet needs to justify its frequency allocation as
>  a technical hobby, or if citizens have a Constitutional right
>  to these frequencies, free of government intervention.
>

I have no desire to gain any further technical knowledge of Ham radio.  I am p
resently a
Tech light and have no plans to upgrade.  The main reason I wanted to become a
 ham was
to gain acces to the VHF\UHF bands.  I am interested in reliable communication
s for
myself and my family.  I also contribute to my community by participating in p
ublic
service events and emergency preparedness.  I don't feel guilty about it and I
 don't
think anyone else should either.  Remember, Ham radio is a diverse habby as we
ll as a
technical one.  I think there is plenty of room for all of us.

Ted F.
N3SQY


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (JA Glasscock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham WWW Home Pages
Date: 9 Apr 96 22:49:10 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, "Brian D. Morgan"
<[e-mail]> writes:

>I am still collecting URL's of ham radio home pages.

Add another:

        http://www.televar.com/~glass/vance1.htm



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Help 900mhz Spectra programming.
Date: 9 Apr 1996 17:38:00 -0400
Message-ID: <4kelbo$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Ken Yu ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >I have a motorola spectra 900mhz b5 and b7 mobile radio and programming
: >software. Need help how to re-program this radio to ham
: >freq.(902-928mhz)Any help is graetly appreciated.

  Isn't it already there?

Gerry K8EF


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (vax2.concordia.ca)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: help needed from anyone in frankfurt, germany
Date: 11 Apr 1996 10:05 -0500
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I need some ohone numbers from your city. If you can help me please
email.

--jack


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:22 1996
From: CrACKeD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Help Wanted With FT-708R
Date: 11 Apr 1996 14:31:01 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k7d71$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


>   Mine had tone decks in them -- the 208, 708, and 108 all had them.
> They came out from Yaesu at the same time as the radios.
>
>   They were all programmable from the keyboard.

Do you know how to change the PL tone from the keyboard?  I don't want to
change a whole set of tones here, I just want to change one tone to
another via the keypad.  This radio is just a bit confusing, that's all.

   _  ____________.--------.
   \`'  __________|________|
   /   [_(__]
  |    |       WWW Site: http://www.primenet.com/~cracked
 .'   .'       FTP Site: ftp.primenet.com/users/c/cracked
 |____|        PGP Public Key Block Available Via Finger



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Dengler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Help Wanted With FT-708R
Date: 12 Apr 1996 20:34:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4kmep6$[e-mail]>
References: <4k7d71$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Robert Dengler)

In <4k7d71$[e-mail]>, CrACKeD <[e-mail]> writes:
>How can I change the subaudible tones on a Yeasu FT-708R via the keypad?
>It's not too easy to figure out without a manual.
>
>   _  ____________.--------.
>   \`'  __________|________|
>   /   [_(__]
>  |    |       WWW Site: http://www.primenet.com/~cracked
> .'   .'       FTP Site: ftp.primenet.com/users/c/cracked
> |____|        PGP Public Key Block Available Via Finger

Cannot be done.  Perhaps on the 709 it can.

Bob NO6B



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alan Burgstahler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Help Wanted With FT-708R
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 02:38:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4khrb2$[e-mail]>
References: <4k7d71$[e-mail]>

CrACKeD <[e-mail]> wrote:

>How can I change the subaudible tones on a Yeasu FT-708R via the keypad?
>It's not too easy to figure out without a manual.

My FT-708R was not bought with a Yaesu tone deck, and I'm not sure there
even was an "official" Yaesu tone deck at that time.  Mine has a
Communications Specialists deck in it, and it's programmed with dip switches.
I'm fairly sure that any tone deck that went into that radio had to be
manually programmed, and could not be programmed via the keypad.

Alan Burgstahler - WA6AWD - Kent, WA, USA



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:24 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Charles Bacon)
Subject: Help with Heathkit
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:28:58 GMT

I need the schematic/manual for a Heathkit DF-1. I'll be happy to
cover copying/postage.

Charles Bacon
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:25 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ICOM 765 MODS
Date: 9 Apr 1996 19:50:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4kef2c$gji$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>: I have a real problem with anyone who goes out and spends
>: $2k on a rig and then immediately gets on Usenet asking
>: for mods.

I don't really have a problem with that.

The essence of amateur radio is experimentation.  I don't think
I've ever owned a radio that I didn't modify in some manner to
make it "better" (at least better in my mind!).

Maybe it's the new substitute for souped-up '49 Fords?

--
73, de Hans K0HB
--No election system is perfect. For example, every now and
  then an innocent man is sent to the legislature.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Pasternak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: If you own a gun and you are a ham
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 15:02:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4k61id$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>You are a double wimp. You need the gun to replace
>the part on your body that is dormant and you use
>the ham radio to play the Wizard of Oz
>--
>#================#=====================================================#|  Bu
rt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
>#================#=====================================================#| k1o
[e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
>#======================================================================#
>Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
>bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


Well, it seems that Burt is proof that little minds have little
thoughts.

Have a good one!   I do!
Brian Pasternak, KA3VSP.




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (SZumbrun)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Info Re:Ft-1000MP
Date: 13 Apr 1996 01:13:01 -0400
Message-ID: <4knd4t$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (SZumbrun)

Does anyone know how, and/if it is advisable to increase the power out of
the Ft-1000MP to say 150-200 watts?  Steve W6SHO e-mail [e-mail].
Thanks!


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: kenwood TH-79A daul band hand held
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:46:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4kkg7n$[e-mail]>

Hi.  I have a th79a daul band handheld.  I havve been told that it can
go down to abouth 50 to 60 Mhz.  I can get down to 118.0Mhz.

Does anyone know how to get done feather.

Tom
zl4trh
Tom Hardwick(NZ)



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: kenwood TH-79A daul band hand held
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:48:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4kkgch$[e-mail]>
References: <4kkg7n$[e-mail]>

Forgot to put e-mail address in other posting sorry.
If you can help please reply here or send email to

[e-mail]
Tom Hardwick(NZ)



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for QSL's fro
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 96 12:19:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Looking for QSL's from...

 >Stateside contesters are the worst --
 >had a return rate of 20 percent of 50 cards sent out following a
 >contest last year.

I disagree, the absolute worst QSLers are by far hams from the
Philippines (DU.)  ZERO return rate, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA!
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------


 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (DARRYL LINKOW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for QSL's from...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 23:31:00 -0800
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (DARRYL LINKOW)


Hello all and thanks for reading this.  I am looking for QSL cards
from N7ANL, Richard Glaese in Kootenai, ID.  I have sent him 2
SASE's along with some other written requests, and no answer back.  If
anyone QSO's with him on a regular basis, please ask him what he
did with the SASE's??  I guess maybe he needed the stamps and
envelopes to mail out his bills or something, because he sure never
QSL'd me back with either one of them!

Also, if you know N6OBP, Joe Robinson, in Suisun, CA ask him what he
did with my SASE, also, because he didn't use it to return a QSL.
I even called on landline and left him a message on his answering
machine, but didn't get a return call or anything back in the mail
from him either.

What's with these people anyhow??  They promise to QSL.  The QSO's
are 5x9 both ways, and no return QSL, even when I send SASE's!!

Any and all help in getting in contact with the above operators
would be appreciated.  73, Darryl KE6IHA

---
 * OLX 2.2 * Darryl Linkow [phone]  9 am - 5 pm PDT


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for QSL's from...
Date: 10 Apr 1996 13:55:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kgekl$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

DARRYL LINKOW ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Hello all and thanks for reading this.  I am looking for QSL cards
: from N7ANL, Richard Glaese in Kootenai, ID.  I have sent him 2
: SASE's along with some other written requests, and no answer back.  If
: anyone QSO's with him on a regular basis, please ask him what he
: did with the SASE's??  I guess maybe he needed the stamps and
: envelopes to mail out his bills or something, because he sure never
: QSL'd me back with either one of them!

: Also, if you know N6OBP, Joe Robinson, in Suisun, CA ask him what he
: did with my SASE, also, because he didn't use it to return a QSL.
: I even called on landline and left him a message on his answering
: machine, but didn't get a return call or anything back in the mail
: from him either.

: What's with these people anyhow??  They promise to QSL.  The QSO's
: are 5x9 both ways, and no return QSL, even when I send SASE's!!

: Any and all help in getting in contact with the above operators
: would be appreciated.  73, Darryl KE6IHA

: ---
:  * OLX 2.2 * Darryl Linkow [phone]  9 am - 5 pm PDT

Darryl, lots of things could be wrong other than what you suggest.
I don't know what anyone would do with an SASE with your address
on it other than send something to you. Here's a few possibilities:

1. Both of the guys you want cards from are dead. Thier wives
   don't QSL.

2. The mailman lost your envelopes, and they never received
   them. Did you sent them Registered, and do you have a
   return receipt to prove they were delivered ?

3. Maybe they are no longer interested in ham radio, and they
   threw your cards in the trash. No laws in the state of
   California that make QSL'ing mandatory, least not yet.

4. Maybe they are like me, and they pile QSL's up someplace
   and answer them once a year.

Next time, before you start giving names and calls of people
who don't QSL and accusing them of stealing your stamps,
consider the above.

The other thing I can't figure out is why the hell you would
be calling people on the phone in California, when you could
pick up the microphone and work about 300 other stations in
California on any given day. California and Idaho are not
exactly rare DX, and you don't have to wait for the next
DX'pedition to work them again.

QSL's are, regardless of what you have been told, not a
required part of the hobby. If you are working on WAS or
another award, I suggest you work two or three stations in
every state/zone/whatever you need and that will increase
your chances of getting the cards you want.

If you are new to the hobby, please realize that some hams
are not the least bit interesting in sending or receiving
QSL cards. Don't expect one from everyone you talk to.

73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Rouse)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for QSL's from...
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:27:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4kmc10$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (DARRYL LINKOW) wrote:


>Hello all and thanks for reading this.  I am looking for QSL cards
>from N7ANL, Richard Glaese in Kootenai, ID.  I have sent him 2
>SASE's along with some other written requests, and no answer back.  If
>anyone QSO's with him on a regular basis, please ask him what he
>did with the SASE's??  I guess maybe he needed the stamps and
>envelopes to mail out his bills or something, because he sure never
>QSL'd me back with either one of them!

>Also, if you know N6OBP, Joe Robinson, in Suisun, CA ask him what he
>did with my SASE, also, because he didn't use it to return a QSL.
>I even called on landline and left him a message on his answering
>machine, but didn't get a return call or anything back in the mail
>from him either.

====
 Alas, that's ham radio. QSLing has been a very invloved process, and
the return rate, with even SASEs and tear-stained envelopes, never
exceeds 50-60 percent. I gave up pursuing WAS on 2 meters for that
reason, and my latest foray into 160 meters in hot pursuit of DXCC and
WAS  on that band has been sad. Stateside contesters are the worst --
had a return rate of 20 percent of 50 cards sent out following a
contest last year. I gave them a contest point and an SASE, they gave
me nothing. It's very, very disappointing, to say the least, but maybe
you've hit on something -- shame them in public. Nah. It's just a
waste of bandspace.  The hobby has enough positive aspects to simply
write off -- well, almost -- the turkeys who take your stamp and use
it to mail a letter of their own. The world's a mean place, hi...

73, John KA3DBN

===

John L. Rouse                  Packet:[e-mail]
Capital-Gazette Communications Fax: [phone]
Annapolis, Maryland            Voice mail: [phone] X200
               =========================
[e-mail]             [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:36 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:42:26 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> wa4pgm@moonst
ar.com writes:
>
>I know what the others are going thru, Just about every issue I get
>is damaged, some minor others I just throw in the trash.
>Every since the ARRL done away with the wrappers (plastics or paper)
>my QST's look like crap when they get here. They will replace
>the damaged issues no problems, but they should get a 1-800
>number so I dont have to keep paiding for the call to get it
>another copy. Once in awhile is not bad, but seems to be a every
>other month thing. Guess if they can call a scaffold setup
>on a rock a country they're not to worried about a damaged QST.
>73 Kyle

You've got net access, just drop them Email for replacement copies,
worked for me. I'd prefer getting my copies pristine too (and most
of mine still come that way), but 130,000 wrappers a month isn't
pocket change (and wrapper prices recently increased sharply). Maybe
the ARRL should offer QST in baggies for an extra charge for those of
you having problems with your mail. I'd prefer to avoid another dues
increase myself.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Seth Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mail Mangled QST
Date: 10 Apr 96 13:28:26 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I receive the QST along with many other magazines (Time,
Newsweek, Discover etc.) and for years they arrive just fine. The
problem is the postal facility. In fact the one time that a QST did get mangle
d about 7 or 8 years ago was when it was in a wrapper. I don't know of
any magazine that is mailed these days that is sent any other way than
bare bones. Complain to the post facility that is handling the mail. It's
probably happening near the end point of delivery. Also the brown wrappers
can't be used anymore because of automation. The issues are sent out bar
coded with the zip code plus 4 adress to qualify for a bulk rate reduction
to the sender (the League). The bar coding has to be printed on a white area
of the magazine for recognition by OCR sorting equipment. Also, the post
office bulk sorting eqipment tends to tear things off, like paper wrappers, th
en
there goes the address. The elimination of the plastic wrapper that was used
last was probably a cost cutting move. However, the only way to protect the
magazine from the abuse described, is to put in one of those over night
shipper type boxes.

Seth KC2WE




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:38 1996
From: Ed Hare <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Date: 11 Apr 1996 12:51:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4kiv91$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]
> [e-mail] writes:

>>I know what the others are going thru, Just about every issue I get
>>is damaged, some minor others I just throw in the trash.
>>Every since the ARRL done away with the wrappers (plastics or paper)
>>my QST's look like crap when they get here. They will replace
>>the damaged issues no problems, but they should get a 1-800
>>number so I dont have to keep paiding for the call to get it
>>another copy. Once in awhile is not bad, but seems to be a every
>>other month thing. Guess if they can call a scaffold setup
>>on a rock a country they're not to worried about a damaged QST.
>>73 Kyle

>You've got net access, just drop them Email for replacement copies,
>worked for me. I'd prefer getting my copies pristine too (and most
>of mine still come that way), but 130,000 wrappers a month isn't
>pocket change (and wrapper prices recently increased sharply). Maybe
>the ARRL should offer QST in baggies for an extra charge for those of
>you having problems with your mail. I'd prefer to avoid another dues
>increase myself.

>Gary

Actually, all of my home copies have been arriving just fine.  We made
this move to save both the cost of wrapping and postage; we get a less
expensive rate because the unwrapped magazines can be processed by
automated equipment.  Interestingly, the number of requests for placement
copies immediately dropped substantially when we went to the wrapperless
issues -- a few more damaged QSTs reported, but fewer lost in the mails.
I subscribe to about a dozen magazines; none are coming wrapped anymore
it seems.  I have not had a damaged copy in a long time.  Perhaps there
is  a significant difference between postal handling centers and/or local
offices.


If your copy arrives damaged, contact our Circulation Department here at
HQ.  You can do this by phone, mail, email or in-person here at HQ.  As
listed on page 10 of QST, the email address for delivery/circulation
contact is [e-mail].


73 from ARRL HQ,

Ed Hare, KA1CV




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:39 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mail Mangled QST
Date: 10 Apr 96 12:03:27 GMT
Message-ID: <"10-Apr-96..8:03:04".*[e-mail]>

I also had my copy (ies) of QST damaged from the mail, but my was in the form
of ripped back covers.  Well I e-mailed ARRL, then I called the post office an
d
spoke to the postmaster and told of him of my problem, along with the type of
damage I was receiving.  When the replacement copy of QST arrived it had no
suffered no damage, which was great!  So far it has waterfalled to other trade
magazines I receive, they have been in better condition sinced I called.  Mayb
e
this is not possible since you are dealing wiht a APO but it might work for
others.
73
Tony
N2TRV


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Fuat C. Baran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Date: 10 Apr 1996 21:28:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4kh955$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4ke5dp$[e-mail]>

>>   I wonder if any of you have been having the same problem.

Nope.  I get QST and several other magazines each month.  Once in a
while a piece of mail will be mangled, but overall I'm happy the way
things are.  Several years ago I had trouble each month with one
particular magazine, IEEE Computer.  I ended up speaking with folks at
the IEEE and my local post office.  The IEEE people said that the
printer was sending bundles of magazines sorted by destination to the
post office and that mine was either the top or bottom magazine in a
bundle and more likely to be damaged.  They said eventually someone
else would be added to the list and my copy would hopefully move
further inside the bundle.  They also sent a complaint to the printer
for forwarding to the sending post office to ask them to be more
careful and had me do the same with my post office (complaint form in
triplicate).  Eventually the problem resolved itself.  I think I even
got a response from the postmaster saying they were investigating my
complaint.

                                                --Fuat


Columbia University                             [e-mail]
703 Watson Labs                                 212-854-4804
612 W115th Street                               212-662-6442 (Fax)
New York, NY 10025      Amateur Radio: N2YGN    http://www.columbia.edu/~fuat/


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:01:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4klneg$[e-mail]>
References: <"10-Apr-96..8:03:04".*[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>I also had my copy (ies) of QST damaged from the mail, but my was in the form
>of ripped back covers.  Well I e-mailed ARRL, then I called the post office a
nd
>spoke to the postmaster and told of him of my problem, along with the type of
>damage I was receiving.  When the replacement copy of QST arrived it had no
>suffered no damage, which was great!  So far it has waterfalled to other trad
e
>magazines I receive, they have been in better condition sinced I called.  May
be
>this is not possible since you are dealing wiht a APO but it might work for
>others.
>73
>Tony
>N2TRV

I have the same problem with my QSTs.  I recieve 3 other mags and they
are always fine, but my QST is always ripped up (usually the front
cover.)

KE4ZQV




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:42 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (James Aeschliman)
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (James Aeschliman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:39:11 GMT


In a previous article, [e-mail] (Dave Heil) says:

>Subject: Mail Mangled QST
>Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 04:52:30 +0000
>Organization: Clinet, Espoo, Finland.
>
>We have three ARRL members receiving QST via the APO mail.  Each month
>our magazines arrive late and in poor condition.  Spines are broken,
>pages are ripped and bent.  I have been corresponding with the League and
>have been assured that there are very few who receive the magazine in
>tatters.  I wonder if any of you have been having the same problem.
>
I have been getting most QST in same condition as before.  Since APO mail
must go through more handling, and if a large percentage of APO mail is
being damaged, perhaps ARRL could be persuaded to wrap and mail QST to
APO addresses separately.
--
Jim Aeschliman                      [e-mail]
Black Diamond, Washington           KD7MK


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Randy Dalnekoff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Maryland Area Hamfest dates needed
Date: 11 Apr 1996 15:21:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4kj82g$[e-mail]>

Does anyone have the date for this years spring hamfest/computer show at
the Howard County Fairgrounds?

please email, as my news server doesn't always update this group.

[e-mail].

Thanks,

Randy


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:45 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Mobile Telephone Service via Radio?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4k7dem$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 21:58:21 GMT

In article <4k7dem$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Nenad Nedeljk
ovic) writes:
>A cousin of mine lives in Yugoslavia, where the cellular phone
>service is non-existent. He claims that it is possible to use
>radio connections to establish mobile telephone service.
>Apparently, one unit and an antenna would go on the car, and
>the other unit would be somehow hooked up to his regular phone
>line. The power output would be 50W (for the base station?)
>and the range around 50 miles.
>
>He's seen this work for other people, but he has no clue about
>radio technology (and neither do I). Despite the fact that he
>can't precisely describe the necessary equipment, he wants me
>to buy it for him.
>
>Can somebody please help me figure out how this is supposed to
>work (if at all), and what kind of equipment is needed.

The first thing to do is to find out what is permitted there,
and on what frequencies. That will determine what equipment
you need.

Here in the US, there was a service called IMTS which used
50-100 watt mobile duplex radios which connected to base
stations owned by service providers (the local telephone
company) to allow mobile users access to the telephone
network. It would be feasible (though not legal here) to
have the base station at a private home connected to a
private telephone line instead. IMTS has been superceded
by cellular here, though a few IMTS systems still remain
in operation. Most of the equipment has been dumped on the
surplus market, and you could likely get it cheaply. There
were two types, VHF and UHF, so you have to get the right
kind to fit the Yugoslav bandplan, if any. It wouldn't do
to fire up a mobile phone system on a frequency used by
the local police or military. They'd take a dim view of
that.

Alternatively, he may be trying to describe a phone patch
system. Amateurs, and some commercial users, do that here,
usually with a phone patch equipped repeater, but also with
private patch equipment hooked to a residential phone line.
This is somewhat restricted compared to commercial or cellular
practice by regulation for amateurs, and is usually operated
half-duplex, IE you have to say "over" and release a button
to change from talking to listening. Equipment to do this is
also widely available, and not expensive.

But the first thing you have to do is to find out what the
Yugoslavian government permits. Then you can come back and
ask about equipment specifics. It wouldn't do for your cousin
to wind up in jail because he violated a local regulation.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mods
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 17:19:57 -0100

Jim, KH2D asked:

>Does anyone have any historical data on the phenonemom of MODS?

Basically it goes back to the roots of the hobby. Obviously the
first decades included only homebrewed equipment, which is the
ultimate in "MODS".

Later, as "factory made" equipment came into availability, hams
still thought they could improve the factory efforts (and in many
cases can) so the tradition of "MODS" continues.

Also, the habit has strong roots in the modification of surplus
military and commercial equipment to operate in the amateur bands.

73, de Hans, K0HB




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (J. Larry Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mods to Kenwood TH22AT
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 06:53:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4kflej$[e-mail]>

Does anyone have mods for the Kenwood TH22AT? If so could you e-mail
to me?
Thanx



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mazal & Earl Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mullard Vacuum Tubes
Date: 8 Apr 96 14:26:14 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anyone have an old book of Mullard Valves?  We are looking for the pin out
and specs for a R19 rectifier / diode.  Thanks in advance.

Earl, 4Z4TJ



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ron Majewski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need 2 Addr from 1994 DX Callbook Please
Date: 11 Apr 1996 21:26:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Hello-

Two stations I recently worked asked me to QSL to their 1994
callbook addresses, a copy of which I unfortunately do not have.

If you have a 1994 version of the International Callbook, may I
please impose upon you to look up the addresses for  ud6dj  and  ua2ff ?

Thanks and 73,

Ron (wb8ruq).
--

Ron Majewski ([e-mail])

The Environmental Research Institute of Michigan



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:49 1996
From: Brian Ward <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need 220Mhz Radios
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:08:07 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for two - 220 mhz radios for our club to use as link radios
in our system, if you have or know of any, please reply to me..

Brian Ward
VE4RBL
--
============================================
Brian Ward        73 de VE4RBL
[e-mail]     or    [e-mail]
check out my web page:   http://www.cyberspc.mb.ca/~bward
============================================


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:50 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Need mod for IC735 noise blanker
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4kk4mu$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:51:24 GMT

In article <4kk4mu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Is there an improvement mod for the IC735 noise blanker? If I turn the
>blanker up high enough to reduce the noise, the audio becomes
>distorted.

That's a surprise? When a blanker blanks, it kills the desired signal
for the duration of the noise pulse as well as the noise pulse itself.
*Of course* that's going to generate distortion, that's inherent in
the process. The hope is that the resulting distortion is less annoying
than the noise that is removed. I believe that the time constants used
in the IC-735 blanker are as close to optimum as you can reasonably
expect in a radio of its type. You can play with the time constants,
but I don't think you can substantially improve upon them. The slice
level setting is absolutely critical for best performance on different
types of impulse noise and signals, so you need to set that carefully
on a case by case basis. If the impulses are wide or very frequent,
then you may do better leaving the blanker off because too much of
the desired signal will also be lost and the distortion will be severe.
There's no good way to handle this problem using a blanker. A noise peak
clipper may be better in these cases, but the real answer is to eliminate
the noise at the source.

I hope this doesn't sound like I'm trying to teach you to suck eggs,
you may already know all of this and still hope to improve the blanker
in the IC-735. I've had my IC-735 for 7 years and I've tried modifying
the noise blanker time constants for better operation. I wound up back
at the factory values. I don't think you can get it to work much better.
I think that if the blanker can't handle the impulses without unacceptable
distortion, you're going to have to do something else to deal with the
noise (like using an ANC-1 noise canceller).

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:51 1996
From: david_mcgee.mailcenter#u#[e-mail] (Dave McGee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need PacketCluster site in N. Cent. PA
Date: 9 Apr 1996 16:39:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <david_mcgee.mailcenter#u#17-090496114806@130.33.11.36>

I've been looking for a DX PacketCluster site I can hit from Tioga, PA
(about 25 miles south of Corning, NY) without much success.  Anyone have
any info on this?
73
Dave  N3AHF


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Vic Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need PacketCluster site in N. Cent. PA
Date: 10 Apr 1996 12:50:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4kgar1$[e-mail]>
References: <david_mcgee.mailcenter#u#17-090496114806@130.33.11.36>

In article <david_mcgee.mailcenter#u#17-090496114806@130.33.11.36>, david_mcge
e.mailcenter#u#[e-mail] (Dave McGee) says:
>
>I've been looking for a DX PacketCluster site I can hit from Tioga, PA
>(about 25 miles south of Corning, NY) without much success.  Anyone have
>any info on this?
>73
>Dave  N3AHF

Alas, you have joined the ranks of the rural folks like me who must do
node-hopping to get to a DX-cluster and accept seeing the spots up to
10 minutes later than everybody else. From here in Bear Gap, about 70
miles north of Harrisburg, I either hop via Danville to Hazelton then
link to W3IQS in Scranton, or go via Danville to Williamsport, thence
via Elmira north to Rochester where another nice cluster operates. Good
luck...                                 =Vic=
                                        WA4THR


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:53 1996
From: LLEDLOW <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Hampshire Exam Session 4/18
Date: 9 Apr 1996 21:17:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4kek5c$[e-mail]>

An amateur radio examination session will be held at 1830 on Thursday,
18 April, at the Crotched Mountain Foundation in Greenfield, NH. CMF
is easily accessible from towns in southern NH, SE VT, and northern MA.

Pre-registration is necessary and may be completed by phone, fax, or
e-mail.  Simply indicate your name, callsign (if any), exams to take,
and a contact phone number.  You MUST pre-register not later than
Tuesday 16 April.

Exam coordinator is Larry Ledlow NA5E.

73!

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry L. Ledlow, Jr.            [e-mail]
NA5E                            1-603-588-6103 voice
W5YI-VE #2129                   1-603-588-6102 fax
-------------------------------------------------------------------




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Eric)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: new reader
Date: 10 Apr 1996 13:19:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4kgchf$[e-mail]>

Hi guys,
   I'm not real sure if this is the right place to do this, I'm a newbie on th
e
Inet, but also a ham. From past experiences, fellow hams have always been real

helpful. Anyway, my point, I just set up my reader and wanted to know if
everything was working ok. Could I get a few responses? It would be greatly
appreciated...
   Also, I realize it's probably an over-posted subject, but I have a few
comments about the no-code stuff... I got my license primarily for 2m packet.
I
have enjoyed it alot. But, I wasn't forced to learn code to get this,
obviously. Well, since I've started, July '95, I've watched my father contact
people from all over the world with seemingly simple equipment. This tells me
that CW would be very reliable in case of emergencies, or limited resources.
That gave me an incentive to try to learn it. I'm now studying, when I get the

chance. Basically, I don't agree when people say there is no place for CW. Eve
n
though I am a young ham, I can see the need for practice and use of CW. Also,
this is a hobby. In my opinion, a hobby is something someone does for
enjoyment, or to "get away" from the real world for a little while. Why not
take your hobby as far as you can. Learning CW doesn't mean you have to drop
everything else, just adding to your knowledge of the hobby...

73's de KB0TKU...



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:56 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Web site, URL changed !!
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 22:51:43 EDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Please my note of my URL change, you will still get there
will the old one, but make sure you make change within
the next month or two.

new url:
http://www.moonstar.com/~wa4pgm

ham radio and kayaking pages.
Lots of changes in the last week, check it out and please
add my URL to your list/page.

Thanks,
Kyle



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:56 1996
Date: 10 Apr 1996 11:42:00 EST
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jeff@com (Jeff)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped international


JE>CH>New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped internationally?
JE>CH>I heard something to this effect on 2m. Any comments?

JE>CW was "state of the art" many years ago.  It isn't anymore.  Although
JE>it's a skill
JE>I personally enjoy, I find the idea of forcing someone else to learn
JE>something that's
JE>so utterly irrelevant to today's screamingly-advanced
JE>communications-modes quite
JE>repulsive.  Perhaps the CW-religionists ought to work on broadening
JE>their bandwidth,
JE>both technically and socially....

JE>Jeff


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:57 1996
From: jones <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped international
Date: 11 Apr 1996 05:44:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4ki68d$b3a$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Interesting that such would come from a sniveling little socialist
country like ZL. Recently (back in the USA) a high school
principal (who had failed the teacher test four times) sued the
school district over the test. At the trail an attorney asked her
what percentage 8 was of 80....she waited 40 seconds and asked for
the question to be rephrased....she then said that 8 was 1% of 80.
   Well, if we can have principals that can't figure 10% we can
have radio ops that don't know the code......And the two are
related.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:58 1996
From: cc wynn <wyn>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped international
Date: 13 Apr 1996 20:38:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4kp3c5$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4ki68d$b3a$[e-mail]> <4klj9j$[e-mail]>

Glenn McAllister <[e-mail]> wrote:

>ZL will continue to bring this up at every IARU conference until the world in
general
>realises that CW is an obsolete mode and is is ONLY ONE FACET of amateur radi
o
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>operation; and should be tested as such.
>
It has been reported on this forum more than once that about half of the QSO's
currently found on the HF frequencies are CW.  So, how do you reason that
MF/HF CW (OOK Morse) is an obsolete mode?  Is it just because you want it to b
e,
or that economics (unique skills are expensive!) have forced its demise from
some sectors to be replaced by digital gimmickry with dubious reliability?
Why do we still hear commercial 500KHz stations on CW?  Has the false economy
been exposed?  Inquiring minds want to know.

73,
Clay N4AOX



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:48:59 1996
From: Pete McQuail <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped international
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:25:42 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <4klj9j$[e-mail]>, Glenn McAllister
<[e-mail]> writes
>jones <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Interesting that such would come from a sniveling little socialist
>>country like ZL.
>
>Sniveling little socialist country?    What's your beef?  Socialist?
>What do you mean by that anyway???
>
>ZL will continue to bring this up at every IARU conference until the world
>ingeneral
>realises that CW is an obsolete mode and is is ONLY ONE FACET of amateur radi
o
>operation; and should be tested as such.
>
Good on you.
73
Pete Mcquail, G8DCJ


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:00 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4ki68d$b3a$[e-mail]><4klj9j$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 00:49:31 GMT
Subject: Re: New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped international

Chicken Shit attitude of the less than able.  Hold your breath
till you turn blue and whine.






>ZL will continue to bring this up at every IARU conference until the world in
general
>realises that CW is an obsolete mode and is is ONLY ONE FACET of amateur radi
o
>operation; and should be tested as such.
>
>--
>Glenn McAllister                      ZL2TLD
>PO Box 3675                           Delta-Wye Electronics
>Wellington
>New Zealand
>
>
>



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:01 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped internationally?
Date: 8 Apr 1996 16:57:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4kbgh2$4mj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Charles Copeland asked:

>New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped internationally?<

At the last ITU WRC meeting (1995) an initiative was opened by
the NZ delegation to visit this issue. The agenda item was not
pursued at that meeting, but will appear as part of a larger
"look" at amateur radio at the the 1999 WRC.

Many national societies are now examining this issue, including
ARRL, RSGB, RAC, IARU, etc.  IARU and ARRL (and I'm sure others)
have established working groups to prepare for WRC 99. You
should contact your national society with your views and
recommendations as early as possible.

--
73, de Hans K0HB
--No election system is perfect. For example, every now and
  then an innocent man is sent to the legislature.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:02 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped internationally?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 16:47:36 GMT

New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped internationally?
I heard something to this effect on 2m. Any comments?



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:04 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Next test...(thanks for nuthin')
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 02:47:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4kpl8i$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]><4judc3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Patrick Wilson) wrote:

>For those who want to know, it's in the Virginia Beach, Norfolk,
>Hampton, Newport News, area of Virginia.  Now can we despense with
>the, " I don't know, BUT"..



> In article <4judc3$[e-mail]>, Gary Hosler - KN0Z
>([e-mail]) writes: >[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent)
>wrote: >  >>In article
><[e-mail]>,
>>>[e-mail] (Matthew C. Sargent) wrote: >
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Excuse me if this information is maintained elswhere on the net, but I am
>>>> interested in taking my Technician test and I was wondering if anybody
>>>> knew if there will be a test given in the greater Hampton Roads area in
>>>> the near future.
>>
>>>Well this was my first post to this newsgroup.  Did I get any answers at
>>>all? No I did not. Is it that I only want to take the technician exams?
>>>Hey here is somebody who _wants_ to take the test, who wants to become a
>>>ham. I am sorry if I feel that taking the code test right away is too much
>>>for me for fit in between work, kids, wife and my other hobby. Not a great
>>>statement on the overall helpfullness of this particular newsgroup. Maybe
>>>you people should look up from your code/no-code arguments for a minute!
>>
>>>btw - I found out the dates and times for the tests using the WWW - all on
>>>my own.
>>
>>>very little thanks,
>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>>Matthew C. Sargent
>>>[e-mail]
>>>AMA# 457887
>>
>>
>>Not sure just what your problem is Matt!  I haven't the faintest idea
>>where the greater Hampton Roads area is, or for that matter even what
>>state it is located in.  Please bear in mind that you are posting a
>>QUESTION to the newsgourp.  If people don't have an answer to your
>>question, then chances are that you won't get much of a response.  No
>>need to develope an attitude that everyone is down on you cause you
>>have decided to take a No Code Tech test.  What class of license you
>>wish to attain is entirely up to you.  It all depends on what aspects
>>of the hobby you have an interest in (Sat's, RTTY, CW, SSB, FM, SSTV,
>>FSTV, HF, VHF, UHF, etc.).  Different strokes for different folks.
>>
>>Like I said, I haven't the faintest where the greater Hampton Roads
>>area is, but obviously from your signature line you have two wheels
>>and an interest in performance bikes.  If Summer EVER returns to
>>Minnesota, I'll be out on my "90" ZX-11 instead of workin DX on 160
>>Meters.  Wanna ride?
>>
>>                       de KN0Z  Gary in Wyoming, MN
>>
>>Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M.
>>

if at first you don't.... would you like to have a copy of all the
messages i got no reples to? oh yes btw... do you have any rca 1000
manuals?




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (timothy charles phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: not type accepted whats up
Date: 9 Apr 1996 22:44:33 -0400
Message-ID: <4kf7ah$[e-mail]>

I got a responce from a self apointed radio cop that if I used non
type acepted equitment I would be operating in violation of fcc rules.
what I would like to know is that if I converted a busness band radio
to 2m would it be wrong.From what I gathered this goes on as a normal
way for the poor working man to get equitment to use.Also if I used my
radio for fire control when the fire gets out of control wouldn't this
be covered by the rule that if life or property are in imeadate danger
that ALL reasonable means of comm. would be allowed just a thought
    please if you respond be reasoable thanks 73 see ya on sat.
                                   tim



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: not type accepted whats up
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:40:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4kh9qm$[e-mail]>
References: <4kf7ah$[e-mail]> <4kh79d$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Bill Sohl) wrote:

>There is no TYPE-ACCEPTANCE requirement for ham equipment.

Before someone else jumps all over me, let me note that
the ONLY type acceptance that is applicable for ham equipment
is for Linear amplifiers for under 144 MHz.  Even at that,
once such a unit is purchased by a ham, the ham
can modify it as he chooses.  SEE part 97.315/317.

Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: not type accepted whats up
Date: 11 Apr 1996 13:25:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4kj18i$[e-mail]>
References: <4kf7ah$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4khe6i$[e-mail]>

In article <4khe6i$[e-mail]>,
Jim Hollenback <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Since amateur equipment (other than external HF amplifiers) doesn't
>: require type acceptance, and doesn't *have* type acceptance for land
>
>Not quite true. I can build my amplifier and use it leagally without
>the type acceptance. The type acceptance only applies to commercially
>built amps.

Have a closer look at 97.315/317 - you may build (or modify) *one* of
a particular model of HF/6m amplifier per calendar year without type
acceptance.  Any more than that and you do require TA.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Hollenback)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: not type accepted whats up
Date: 10 Apr 1996 22:54:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4khe6i$[e-mail]>
References: <4kf7ah$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Since amateur equipment (other than external HF amplifiers) doesn't
: require type acceptance, and doesn't *have* type acceptance for land

Not quite true. I can build my amplifier and use it leagally without
the type acceptance. The type acceptance only applies to commercially
built amps.

--
Jim Hollenback


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:09 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: not type accepted whats up
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:17:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4kgfue$1pl$[e-mail]>
References: <4kf7ah$[e-mail]>

>I got a responce from a self apointed radio cop that if I used
>non type acepted equitment I would be operating in violation
>of fcc rules. what I would like to know is that if I converted
>a busness band radio to 2m would it be wrong.

That KiloCycleKop is wrong. You can convert equipment from any
other service to the amateur service without getting any sort
of "type acceptance".

I would caution you that the "type acceptance" for the original
service would now be void, and it could no longer be used in
that service, except in the most dire (protection of life)
circumstances. (And even then might be called into question!)

Convert away, my friend, with no fear of a visit from the FCC.

--
73, de Hans K0HB
--No election system is perfect. For example, every now and
  then an innocent man is sent to the legislature.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:09 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Old 20 Extra only freq?
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:12:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4klh9g$[e-mail]>

Is my memory correct?  Was there not a 20 meter sub-band for the
exclusive use of extra class licensees?  The time period was 1955-6
and as I recall it was above 14.3 mHz.  Can anyone shed light on this
for me.

Thanks

Dean


Rest in peace Mr. Ben Johnson!


           C. Dean Norris
      Amateur Radio Station K7NO
      e-mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:10 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Albert S Woodhull)
Subject: Re: Old 20 Extra only freq?
Message-ID: <4d7cc$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 15:05:28 GMT
References: <4klh9g$[e-mail]>

On Fri, 12 Apr 1996 14:12:22 GMT [e-mail] wrote in
rec.radio.amateur.misc:

: Is my memory correct?  Was there not a 20 meter sub-band for the
: exclusive use of extra class licensees?  The time period was 1955-6
: and as I recall it was above 14.3 mHz.  Can anyone shed light on this
: for me.

I think in this period U.S. amateurs were not allowed to use voice in
the 14.300 to 14.350 part of 20 meters. I don't think there were any
frequency restrictions for any class of license above General, an
Advanced or Extra Class license gave no additional privileges of any
kind.

73, Al N1AW
--
Al Woodhull
[e-mail]
n1aw@k1mea.#wma.ma.usa.na
[e-mail]





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Wilkins ~ n6fri)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Packet-Internet, & Internet-Packet Gateways
Date: 13 Apr 1996 12:53:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4ko83s$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


: GL>Does anybody know about any Packet-Internet gateways that you can access
: GL>packet networks from by Telneting in, and email? Please send any informat
ion
: GL>to Vance A. Glasscock <[e-mail]>.

answering the previous question Jeff (jeff@com) wrote:

: I wouldn't recommend that ANY Ham interconnect Packet with the Internet!
: The two systems can be quite incompatible with respect to potential
: commercial
: traffic as well as the likelihood of frequently colorful language....
: If you want to get on packet, go packet.  If you want the 'Net, log-on.

Thats the same as saying that voice repeaters should not interconnect to
the public telephone networks. You could run into the same problems.

There are quite a number of packet gateway stations with internet
connections. By using the telnet application the amateur station can
require a password to allow an internet amateur to use any of the rf
equipment. Signing on as guest only allows you to read the messages etc,
on the amateur bbs. You must send e-mail to each sysop to use their rf
stations.

Tired of node hopping in your local area? Telnet to an other state and
see whats out there!      http://www.ccnet.com/~rwilkins/gateways.html

Have Fun!

~Bob
--
     Bob Wilkins                     home    [e-mail]
 Berkeley, California                work    [e-mail]
     94712-2354                      play    n6fri@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.noam




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:13 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 02:24:50 GMT
Subject: Re: PACTOR discussed on radio show

Yeah, sure, another ham too damned lazy to work to get the
priviledges, so please, give them to me....please.... golly, I
don't wanna have to pass any old test......

Quit whining and earn them, then do your frigging WOG.  It would
carry more weight and mean LOTS more, if you were working from
above and not below.

N0RDQ




 In article
<[e-mail]>, Len Winkler ([e-mail])
writes: >Paul Sussman, KB8LUJ, will be the special guest this
sunday on the Ham  >Radio & More radio show. Be sure to listen to
find out more about  >PACTOR. Show times and info appear below.
>--
>Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
>P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
>Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
>Ham Radio & More Show info at:
>http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
>RealAudio site:http://www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html
>
>The show airs LIVE each SUNDAY at 6:00pm ET (2200utc) on many stations
>throughout the country.
>ALSO: LIVE everywhere on WWCR shortwave, 100,000 watts, on 7.435mhz and
>12.160mhz, 2200utc.
>
>The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 0900utc on 3.315,
>on Mondays, and Saturdays at 1600utc on 12.160.
>
>
>Support "WOG". Written only General!!!
>



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Harrison)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Phone Patch vs GTE
Date: 9 Apr 1996 04:24:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4kcoqj$[e-mail]>


A friend of mine maintains a repeater/phone patch, using space on the
roof of our commercial building. Pacific Bell honored the FCC ruling that
amateur phone patches qualify for residential (verses measured business)
service.

He'll be installing another one in an area served by GTE California
and they can't find any ruling dealing with phone patches, and will not
allow residential lines at the commercial location.

Can anyone let me know the FCC ruling/number that GTE can reference?

Thanks in advance!
Dave



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (AC6V)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSL info for S92SS,P49V and J37BC
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 02:05:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4k9sfk$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Robert Newman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Im needing qsl info for S92SS, P49V and J37BC.
>Any help would be MOST appreciated.
>
>Robert/WB4LLP

Try using the QSL Manager Data Base at:
http://www.systemtechnik.tu-ilmenau.de/ham/qsldb_gate.html

For S92SS it shows:

S92SS: CHARLES LEWIS, BOX 522, SAO TOME, WEST AFRICA
UPDATED BY DL1SBF:   1-OCT-1995  1639Z

73
Rod





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Pedro Pedroso)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL INFO PLEASE !!!!
Date: 11 Apr 1996 13:53:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4kj2tf$[e-mail]>


        Greetings felloww amateurs !

        Recently I have worked the following DX stations, but I
        dont have the QSL info (in spite of searching in several
        internet QSL servers) :

                                S02R
                                JX9ZP
                        and finaly I need th address for DL7DF
        wich is said to be the qsl manager for C56CW.

                        Any info on any of the station above
        mentioned would be very apreciated. Thanks !
                                        73's + Good DX + Good Contest !


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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: RACES as 501(c)(3)???
Date: 9 Apr 1996 02:30:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4kci3b$[e-mail]>
References: <4k46ft$[e-mail]>

In article <4k46ft$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Reposted from soc.org.nonprofit:
>
>I am the director of a my County's RACES (Radio Amateur Civil Emergency
>Service) unit. RACES is a team of licensed amateur radio operators that
>assist County government agencies during disasters by providing
>communications channels and operators. The RACES "concept" was created by
>federal code (47 CFR 97) but each individual RACES unit is actually sponsored

>by (and a part of) a state or local government agency (usually the
>jurisdiction's emergency management agency).
>
>We would like to solicit funding from area companies, individuals,
>grant-making institutions, etc., to finance our equipment (a few tens of
>thousands of dollars a year at the most), and I'm having a tough time
>figuring out exactly how to go about doing that.
>
>We're sort of a "pseudo-government entity": not created by local statute but
>sponsored by local government; not sponsored by a federal agency but created
>by federal statue -- a group without a home, so to speak. I don't want to
>have our supporters write the County treasurer a check and then have to go
>through the County's budgeting and fiscal process; I'd like to incorporate as

>a 501 non-profit organization with our own, separate financial operation.
>
>I think we should set up a separate corporation and call it something like
>"The Kanawha County Emergency Communications Foundation". The sole purpose of

>that corporation would be to accept donations for and fund equipment
>purchases, operating expenses, etc., for the Kanawha County RACES Unit.
>
>Am I on the right track?
>
>Are there certain words in the corporation's name I want to avoid like "fund"

>or "foundation"? Certain words I *should* use?
>
>Does this sound like 501(c)(3)?
>
>Most importantly: Will the corporation just be able to accept donations for
>the team and then have to turn right around and make like, cash payments to
>the County treasurer for eventual acquisition of the equipment? Or can the
>corporation accept donations, make capital and expense disbursments directly,

>and perpetually maintain ownership of the team's gear and other property?
>
>Or.... do I need to pay an attorney and/or an accountant to do this? I'm a
>small business owner, have some free time and think I'm clever enough to do
>it myself, but I know the IRS can be picky. There are hundreds of RACES units

>around the country; I'd love to find out what they've already done.
>
>Thanks!
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Rob Bailey, WM8S ([e-mail])                   Kanawha / Charleston
>Bailey Computer Systems              Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service

Rob,
I used to be involved with a search and rescue organization in Eastern WA.
They incorporated as Kittitas County Search and Rescue Council, Inc, and
established 501(c)(3) requirements with the assistance of the County's
attorney. This unit serves at the direction of the KC Sheriff's Office and is
a quasi-government agency in the sense that RACES is quasi-government. But I
don't think that really matters. I think that KCS&RC established itself as
a non-profit humantarian aid group. They are funded entirely by donations.

Kim, my wife,  filed the 501(c)(3) paperwork for a non-profit pre-school group

once. She did all the paper work herself. The IRS sent it back the first time,

I think, with some add'l information required. She fixed it and returned back
to the IRS and they eventually received their non-profit status.

Good luck,
Ed, KF7VY

------------------------
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personal email to [e-mail]
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http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:19 1996
From: Charles Bolland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Radio Station Database Program Stand Alone
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 01:00:53 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Sir,

It's still available.  The IBM/DOS Broadcasting Radio Station Database
Program for Longwave, Mediumwave, and Shortwave.  Over 4,000 records
included already.  The program is completely read and write.  Records
can be added or changed.  Sorts in many different formats both on your
screen and printing.

If you would like a copy of the program, send your request to
"[e-mail]".  Please include your MAILING ADDRESS. For example,
your street number, city, state and zipcode.  Also include your Email
address.

The program will be sent to you via Email probably within 24 hours if
not sooner.  If you request the program and haven't received it in that
period, check back with me..

Remember to send your address.  Requests without a mail address will no
longer be acknowledge to save time on the internet.  In the past,
requests without an address were reminded with a message.  Usually, the
reminder went unanswered anyway.  If it was, the reply was sometimes
very rude.

This program is free!  Everything works.  It has many features and they
all work, not like shareware where some of the features work and others
don't.

You address will be kept confidential.  I will be sending you a first
class letter later explaining another full featured Database program
available. It's very big!


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bostonian)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RCA WT - 100A TUBE TESTER WANTED
Date: 14 Apr 1996 01:06:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4kpj28$[e-mail]>

RCA WT-100A and/or Hickok 700 tube tester wanted.  Seeking unit in good
running condition, needing some repairs or for parts (if I later come across
a working unit).  Willing to swap for something or please state a fair price
for the respective unit.  I would prefer swapping something as cash is tight,
but I would have to find out what you are looking for -- I may have it.
Please indicate if you have manuals, schematics, charts and/or plug-in tube
sockets for the respective tube tester.

Kindly, email with details.

Thank you.

Having email problems -- my correct address is:

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark D. Fergus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: RS  HTX-212 has been out a year has anyone found MODs ??
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 03:11:53 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k3ns3$[e-mail]>

In article <4k3ns3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (shamro
ck) writes:

>Hi,
> Just wondering if anyone has found any mods to the HTX-212 like
>being able to program out-of-band freq like 162.55 <weather in my
>area> into memory instead of just VFO...or being able to select
>programmed memory channels for selective scanning ie.. scan 5,10,
>or just two memory channels at a time...I know there is a way to
>"NOT-Scan" 5 freq's but that leaves 25 left scanning....

>Or a way to expand number of memory channels ??


>I love the radio it performs really great but just falls a little short in
>the above areas...guess my Alinco ht spoiled me :>.


>73's
>Bill
>N2YTE


Bill,

Don't know of any other mods for the HTX-212 except the MARS/CAP and
out-of-band RX mod described in the manual.  However, RS has a new version of
the 212 called the HTX-242 on sale for $299 that has 40 memories plus call,
and it will store out-of-band freq in memory (I think).

Yes, I'm quite happy with the HTX-212 for what I paid for it.  Sure gets MUCH
less intermod then my Alinco HT's

73 de N8VJF
Mark
Employee of RS store 01-4427, Columbus OH
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:22 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: RS  HTX-212 has been out a year has anyone found MODs ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4k3ns3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:59:49 GMT

Mark D. Fergus ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4k3ns3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (sham
rock) writes:

: >Hi,
: > Just wondering if anyone has found any mods to the HTX-212 like
: >being able to program out-of-band freq like 162.55 <weather in my
: >area> into memory instead of just VFO...or being able to select
: >programmed memory channels for selective scanning ie.. scan 5,10,
: >or just two memory channels at a time...I know there is a way to
: >"NOT-Scan" 5 freq's but that leaves 25 left scanning....

: >Or a way to expand number of memory channels ??


: >I love the radio it performs really great but just falls a little short in
: >the above areas...guess my Alinco ht spoiled me :>.


: >73's
: >Bill
: >N2YTE


: Bill,

: Don't know of any other mods for the HTX-212 except the MARS/CAP and
: out-of-band RX mod described in the manual.  However, RS has a new version o
f
: the 212 called the HTX-242 on sale for $299 that has 40 memories plus call,
: and it will store out-of-band freq in memory (I think).

I checked with my local Radio Shack store and the people there knew
nothing about the HTX-242. Can you email me info?
--
[e-mail]
Dave Feustel N9MYI      For PGP Public Key, finger [e-mail]
Fort Wayne, IN          Or else access http://www.mixi.net/~feustel/
219-483-1857


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:24 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Rules that the ham wife must follow
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:33:23 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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The following appeared in the Cape Cod Times and I thought I would share
it with you.



Readers should feel free to cut out the following excerpts from
their workbook and tape it to their refrigerator to serve as a
handy reminder.

  I N S T R U C T I O N S  F O R  T H E  L A D Y  O F  T H E   H O U S E

Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a
delicious meal on time. This is a way of letting him know that
you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his
needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect
of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed.

Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so that you'll be
refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in
your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of
workweary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting.
His boring day may need a lift.

Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main
part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up
school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the
tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest
and order, and it will also give you a lift.

Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's
hands and faces (if they are small). Comb their hair, and if
necessary change their clothes. They are little treasures and he
would like to see them playing apart.

Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all
noise of the washer, dryer, dishwasher, or vacuum. Try to
encourage the chilclren to be quiet. Be happy to see him. Greet
him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.

Some don'ts. Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't
complain if he's late for dinner. Make him comfortable. Have him
lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the
bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange his
pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soft,
soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.

Listen to him. You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the
moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.

--------------459E27FD30F0--



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:25 1996
From: [e-mail](TURNER C. BLANCHARD )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: S.Carolina Band and Frequency information
Date: 10 Apr 1996 17:26:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4kgqv8$[e-mail]>

    I am looking for some information on what bands (hf 50Mhz, VHF,
UHF, 800, 800 Trunked) and frequencies that are in use in South
Carolina for Police, Fire, Highway Patrol and other Government sectors.
I will be moving to the Greenville area this summer and I would like to
be able to hear what is going on.

                Thank you,

                Turner

                [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Calls -- What
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 12:29:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Vanity Calls -- What gate???

 >It seems that the FCC was hit with several petititons challenging parts
 >of the vanity call sign program.  Remember that one of the first gates to
 >open gives a family member the opportunity to get the call sign of a
 >decesaed family member if the individual making the request holds a
 >license equal to or higher than the grade of the deceased.  That was a
 >point of several petitions -- if Dad was an Extra and I am a Novice, I
 >should still be able to get his call.

Yup, that is a giant point!  Glad to see that people took the time to
write their comments to the FCC about that one.
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:28 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:32:36 GMT
Subject: Re: Vanity Calls -- What

Seems to me, if people were so damned proud of Dad, Mom, Grandpa,
Uncle Bob, Aunt Sarah, Cousin Billy or whatevers license, they
would upgrade to represent the license.  Bunch of whiney
peckerheads.  They aren't proud of anything, they just want
something for nothing AGAIN.


N0RDQ who is NOT after one of them either.  But for Christs sake,
when does the responsibility of life and lifes little
accomplishments begin to kick in for the individual.  Still
relying on some other person accomplishments.  Sorta like waiting
for the relatives to die, so one can have their money
(accomplishments).



In article
<[e-mail]>, ROLAND STINER
([e-mail]) writes: >
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: Vanity Calls -- What gate???
>
> >It seems that the FCC was hit with several petititons challenging parts
> >of the vanity call sign program.  Remember that one of the first gates to
> >open gives a family member the opportunity to get the call sign of a
> >decesaed family member if the individual making the request holds a
> >license equal to or higher than the grade of the deceased.  That was a
> >point of several petitions -- if Dad was an Extra and I am a Novice, I
> >should still be able to get his call.
>
>Yup, that is a giant point!  Glad to see that people took the time to
>write their comments to the FCC about that one.
>---
>   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------
>
> * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)
>
>              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
>      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
>     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
>      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126
>
>



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (JJ Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Calls -- What gate???
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 04:46:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4kcfls$[e-mail]>
References: <4kb91k$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Jim Weir) wrote:


>Anybody have a clue what gate the FCC is currently accepting for
>vanities?

>Jim

Yes.  None.

  jim



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Calls -- What gate???
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 12:30:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4kdlb2$[e-mail]>
References: <4kb91k$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Jim Weir) wrote:


>Anybody have a clue what gate the FCC is currently accepting for
>vanities?

>Jim


>Jim Weir VP Engineering | You bet your sweet patootie I speak for the
>RST Engineering         | company.  If I don't, ain't nobody gonna.
>Grass Valley CA 95945   |
>http://www.rst-engr.com | AR Adv WB6BHI--FCC 1/C phone--Cessna 182A N73CQ
>[e-mail]        | Commercial/CFI-Airplane/Glider-----A&P Mechanic

None.

========

SB QST @ ARL $ARLB011
ARLB011 Vanity calls delayed

ZCZC AG90
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 11  ARLB011
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  February 15, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB011
ARLB011 Vanity calls delayed

ARRL has learned that the FCC may delay until mid-1996 the
announcement of when it plans to open the first gate or gates of the
vanity call sign program. A Commission spokesman says the FCC first
wants to deal with remaining Petitions for Reconsideration it has
received. The FCC had been expected to announce opening dates early
this year.

FCC vanity call sign application Form 610V is now available, but the
FCC will not accept completed forms until it opens the appropriate
kfiling gates.

Prospective applicants can get the FCC Form 610V package by writing
ARRL, 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111. Please include an sase.
Form 610V also is available from the FCC via the Internet at
http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form610V or
ftp://ftp.fcc.gov/pub/Forms/Form610V/, or by fax at 202-418-0177.
Ask for Form 006108.

The FCC's Forms Distribution Center also accepts orders for Form
610V at 800-418-3676.
NNNN
/EX
==========

73    Skid   W1TTY






From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Calls -- What gate???
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:41:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4kgh28$[e-mail]>
References: <4kb91k$[e-mail]> <4kb9tt$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

usao6ret <[e-mail]> wrote:


>of the vanity call sign program.  Remember that one of the first gates to
>open gives a family member the opportunity to get the call sign of a
>decesaed family member if the individual making the request holds a
>license equal to or higher than the grade of the deceased.  That was a
>point of several petitions -- if Dad was an Extra and I am a Novice, I
>should still be able to get his call.

I contacted the FCC about a month ago and was told this.  If Dad was
an Extra that kept his Tech callsign, the child can get the callsign
it he is a Tech or higher.  If Dad has a Extra class callsign, then
Jr. can't get the call unless he/she upgrades.  Actually, Techs and
Generals have the same class callsign.  I do agree that it will
probably be  a long time before the first gate opens.

KE4ZQV
Burch Akin




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:31 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] ("Stephen Walters")
Subject: Wanted Narrow CW filter for the FT101z Mk2
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:23:09 GMT

Wanted Narrow CW filter for the FT101z Mk2
Does anyone have one of these for sale, new or second hand?

I am in London, England,

Steve, G7VFY, Tel [phone].


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:32 1996
From: Peter Coffee AC6EN <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What about 220Mhz? (was:
Date: 12 Apr 1996 16:00:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4klunq$hf6$[e-mail]>

 >>> the only 2m/220 mobile rig

Kenwood still offers such a configuration.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:34 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: What about ham husbands?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:14:08 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

I changed all the masculine articles to feminine, and
added an introductory paragraph to suggest that this is
the '90s and this kind of behavior is for special occasions
only, and made a couple of other minor changes (like most
men don't wear makeup, etc.) to remind us that we should
occasionally do these things for our wives, though it is no
longer cool to expect them to go above and beyond like this
every day for their men.

----------begin quote-----------
In these days of two-working-parent families, neither party is
expected anymore to serve the other at all times.  However, it
can make a person feel special if occasionally he comes home
to a spouse that has prepared the evening just so.  Now and
then, when she arrives after you, a little pampering is a nice
change of pace for her.

Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a
delicious meal on time. This is a way of letting her know that
you have been thinking about her and are concerned about her
needs. Most women are hungry when they come home and the prospect
of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed.

Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so that you'll be
refreshed when she arrives.  Look at yourself in the mirror.
She has just been with a lot of workweary people. Be a little
gay and a little more interesting.  Her boring day may need a lift.

Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main
part of the house just before your wife arrives, gathering up
school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the
tables. Your wife will feel she has reached a haven of rest
and order, and it will also give you a lift.

Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's
hands and faces (if they are small). Comb their hair, and if
necessary change their clothes. They are little treasures and she
would like to see them playing the part.

Minimize all noise. At the time of her arrival, eliminate all
noise of the washer, dryer, dishwasher, or vacuum. Try to
encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see her. Greet
her with a warm smile and be glad to see her.

Some don'ts. Don't greet her with problems or complaints. Don't
complain if she's late for dinner. Make her comfortable. Have her
lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest she lie down in the
bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for her.  Speak in a low,
soft, soothing and pleasant voice. Allow her to relax and unwind.

Listen to her. You may have a dozen things to tell her, but the
moment of her arrival is not the time. Let her talk first.
-------------end quote----------

PS: after the rest of the house has gone to sleep, put on the
headphones, get on 30m CW, and work three new countries.  :-)

73

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:35 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What about ham husbands?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:30:10 GMT
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4kl5re$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jim Kehler) wrote:
>Monty, did you fall down the basement steps on the way to the radio
>shack and hit your head ????

We don't do basements here in Houston, Jim.  If you dig a hole here,
it just fills up with liquid.  :-)  I thought some guys might get a
chuckle out of that who wouldn't know which end of a spatula to hold
onto.  For some reason, the behavior I stated above is much easier
if you enjoy cooking, and if you're in the mood to make a good
impression and give her a bit of a surprise.  But as I said, for
occasional use only

73.

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:37 1996
From: Ager or Persson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What about ham husbands?
Date: 13 Apr 1996 20:42:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4kp3j8$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4kl5re$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


Monty Wilson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Jim Kehler) wrote:
>>Monty, did you fall down the basement steps on the way to the radio
>>shack and hit your head ????
>
>We don't do basements here in Houston, Jim.  If you dig a hole here,
>it just fills up with liquid.  :-)  I thought some guys might get a
>chuckle out of that who wouldn't know which end of a spatula to hold
>onto.  For some reason, the behavior I stated above is much easier
>if you enjoy cooking, and if you're in the mood to make a good
>impression and give her a bit of a surprise.  But as I said, for
>occasional use only

I have the original text, directed toward women and taken from a Canadian
home ec. textbook, tacked on the wall above my desk.  It serves as a
warning.  I'm convinced that anyone--of either sex--would emerge from such
a self-abnegating routine feeling as if he or she had fallen down the
stairs and gotten knocked silly.

Excuse me--I must go.  My OM, W9MP, has just finished vacuuming and is
ready to pull the pot roast out of the oven.  73

--
Beth Ager, NN9E
*****************************************
In the beautiful north woods of Wisconsin
*****************************************




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:38 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WHATEVER  HAPPENED  TO  THE  "CUBICAL  QUAD"  HF  ANTENNA?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: Bill <[e-mail]>
Date: 10 Apr 96 23:58:10 CDT

Hello,

Don't see or read much about the venerable QUAD antenna, lately.

Don't see many in operation either.

Ideas or news, anybody?

Bill Worthington
AA4FM/0
Eudora, Kansas, USA



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:39 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WHATEVER  HAPPENED  TO  THE  "CUBICAL  QUAD"  HF  ANTENNA?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:18:27 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

I made a 3-el quad for 6m when I lived in Dallas.  It looked like
a box kite turned on its side.  I worked several countries on it,
with a Yaesu transverter (single 6146) running about 30W keydown.

Then I got lazy with my tree pruning and, one windstormy day, a
branch turned by beautiful antenna back to the dowels, u-bolts,
and telephone wire whence it came.  I was sad.

Someday I'd like to make another.  I still have Bill Orr's book
which I used to make the 6m antenna.  He did not give the
dimensions but his calculations were easy to follow.

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:40 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: WHATEVER  HAPPENED  TO  THE  "CUBICAL  QUAD"  HF  ANTENNA?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4kl5ml$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 22:41:35 GMT

: Bill ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : Hello,

: : Don't see or read much about the venerable QUAD antenna, lately.

: : Don't see many in operation either.

: : Ideas or news, anybody?

They are still around; no idea why we do not see more of them.

I have been over to Cubex in Brea, CA, about a 45-minute drive from here.
They make some fine quads, both for HF and VHF.  Pretty sure they advertise
in a couple of the ham magazines.  Their 2m, 4-element "Yellowjacket" model
was selling like crazy at the Southwestern Division Convention last year.

At that same convention, there was a talk on quads vs. yagis by an advocate
of using quads.  I missed it, due to being at another presentation, but my
wife shared her notes and handouts.

73 de Jim - KF6CR



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Erickson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE "CUBICAL QUAD" HF ANTENNA?
Date: 13 Apr 1996 19:33:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4kovi4$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4kl5ml$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jim Kehler) writes:

>Bill ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Hello,

>: Don't see or read much about the venerable QUAD antenna, lately.

>: Don't see many in operation either.

>: Ideas or news, anybody?

>: Bill Worthington
>: AA4FM/0
>: Eudora, Kansas, USA

>Hi Bill,
>    I imagaine quads are alive and well somewhere, but I guess not
>two many people use them on 2 meter HT's.
>    My first one was 4 elements on 10 meters, mounted to a mast
>with an armstrong rotor in the front yard..... I don't remeber
>how many times I fell running thru the snow to turn the antenna,
>but I sure remember working lots of DX with it.
>    Best one I ever had was a two element 40 meter quad. Couldn't
>turn it as it was fixed in one direction (bit big to turn) but
>it worked great.
>    About 4 or 5 years ago I built one (4 elements on 20 meters)
>for field day, fixed at the U.S. It worked fine, but since Hawaii
>is 4,000 miles closer to the U.S. mainland and in the same zone
>we are here in Guam, we didn't win any awards. But we had a fun
>weekend at the beach.
>    I don't know whatever happened to Bill Orr's book, its around
>here somewhere.....

>73, Jim KH2D

I sure miss my 4 element 3 band quad. Current living situation
will not allow tower etc.

Jim, could you email me at the address below? Would like to talk to you
off the net, and my current news server will not allow email, only postings.

cheers, Paul
VE7CQK
email: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (PA3BTL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Which PREFIX to put before a RECIPROCAL Permit ?
Date: 8 Apr 1996 19:51:59 -0400
Message-ID: <4kc8qv$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (PA3BTL)

Today I received from the FCC a reciprocal permit, so I can operate in the
USA.
Unfortunately, the FCC did not state on the permit what the prefix should
be.
I think it will be W4/PA3BTL, but I'm not sure. (PA3 prefix means full
license).

Reactions will be appreciated, so I can follow the correct rule.

Regards,

PA3BTL,  Henk van Asselt


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:43 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Which PREFIX to put before a RECIPROCAL Permit ?
Date: 9 Apr 1996 02:28:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4kchvq$4cp$[e-mail]>
References: <4kc8qv$[e-mail]>

PA3BTL asked:

>Unfortunately, the FCC did not state on the permit what
>the prefix should be.

The prefix will be the letter "W", "K", or "N" (your choice,
but "W" in normally used) followed by a numeral
indicating the US call area in which you are operating.
Examples:

   If you are in New York (area "2") you would sign
   "W2/PA3BTL".

--
73, de Hans K0HB
--No election system is perfect. For example, every now and
  then an innocent man is sent to the legislature.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christer Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wrong URL to L.O.S.A List !
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:31:49 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi,

I'm sorry to bother you but thanks to Dave Fritsche who pointed
out an typo in the L.O.S.A address given in the list.

The correct URL is...

  http://www.hth.com/losa.htm

and NOT...

  http://www.hth.com/losa.html
                          ^^^^

Regards,

/Christer

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 * High Tech Horizon  -  Christer Johansson  -  E-mail: [e-mail] *
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 * Vi saljer Parallax, Inc. BASIC Stamp's produkter i Skandinavien *
     >>  World Wide Web On-Line Catalog - http://www.hth.com  <<
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:45 1996
From: rew5808 <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.shortwave
Subject: wtb: allied cb & shortwave
Date: 12 Apr 1996 21:53:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4kmjda$[e-mail]>

looking for a knight-kit walkie talkie (model# c-100) 100mw cb from 1963
or 1964.  it was blue.

also, need a knight-kit ""span master" 4-band shortwave receiver (built
or unbuilt).  this receiver is also from 1934 or 1964.

would also be interested in lafayette, heathkit, or allied catalogs from
1962 to 1966.

thanks
bobby
wb5wur




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 14 17:49:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Bernazzani)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Yaesu FT10 Handheld - Headphone Capable?
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 23:36:08 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello all,

I own an FT10 5W 2M XCVR which I really like.  Many nice features
highlight this radio however I can't seem to figure out why when I use
standard headphones (with mono adapter since it doesn't seem to put
out in stereo) I can't seem to transmit.  Is there something I'm
missing.  I'd like to be able to use headphones to listen and still
transmit (to flesh out weak receive signals)?


Thanks in advance,

73,
Dave Bernazzani
N1WSQ


-----------------------------------------
"And after all we're only ordinary men"
    Pink Floyd _Us and Them_
 http://www.tiac.net/users/dber
-----------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:22:58 1996
From: Ed Hare <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1. Need Help With RFI Problems
Date: 17 Apr 1996 13:45:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4l2slf$[e-mail]>
References: <4kpd74$q2o$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>The FCC prints a pamphlet on RFI causes and cures, but it isn't
>very technical, oriented more toward the consumer. A better book
>on RFI causes and cures is offered by the ARRL.

The FCC's book is useful in one important regard -- it will help your
neighbor understand the difference between transmitter-caused
interference and consumer-equipment caused interference.  The ARRL also
has an "RFI Pamphlet," available from the Technical Department Secretary
for an SASE that says the same things (surprise!), but having it said in
the FCC's own words often carries more weight with your neighbor.  The
book is called "Interference to Home Electronic Entertainment Equipment
Handbook (CIB-2)."  It is available for $2.50 from: (I ordered it by name
with no difficulty.)

US Government Printing Office
Washington, DC 20402-9371
Phone: [phone]
202-512-1800 (credit card orders only)
Web Site: http://www.gpo.gov

ARRL also has several interference packages that will offer some fast
starter help.  Most are available electronically from the ARRL area at
oak.oakland.edu or from [e-mail].  Paper copies are available from
our Technical Department Secretary for $2.00 for ARRL Members, $4.00 for
non members.

We have the "RFI Pacakge," RFI-Telephone, RFI-TV, RFI-Audio,
RFI-Electrical and RFI-CATV.  The CATV package is available ONLY in paper
form; it is a reprint of an article I wrote for Communications
Technology, the journal of the Society of Cable Television Engineers.  (I
chose that instead of QST because I wanted something hams could hand to
their cable operator.  They trust CT more than they trust QST, for some
reason. :-)  ).

Our RFI book, Radio Frequency Interference is available from most ham
dealers, our Pub Sales Department, using the handy-dandy order form in
QST.  If you are an ARRL Member, you can get a bit of technical advice
before you buy the book by calling us at [phone].

73 from ARRL HQ,  Ed Hare, KA1CV, ARRL Laboratory Supervisor





From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:22:59 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Dave Kirkby)
Subject: Re: 1.5kw UHF amp...how much?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:32:31 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <4kofjp$[e-mail]>

In article [e-mail], [e-mail] writes:
> the title says it all!
> about how much would a 440Mhz 1500w FM capable Amp cost to buy
> or build <with all the parts in a kit form>?
> also....where can i get something like this w/ building it all from
> scrach?????
>
> thanks
>
> DAvid
There was once an article in QST on this subject. It used an Eimac cavity as t
he basis,
so all the RF work was done for you. Contact Eimac, if you have plenty of mone
y!!

---
Dave Kirkby
Dept of Medical Physics,
University College London,
11-20 Capper St,
London WC1E 6JA
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]







From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:03 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 2 Meter Information
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 14:36:34 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> "grene (Chris Trottier)" <grene@net-li
nk.net> writes:
>I started out in CB a while back and decided to go get my Novice
>Licence so I could 'get away from' 11 meters.  10 meters was real
>exciting at first but my interest began to fade.  It just wasnt exciting
>anymore to make a contact.
>
>I have decided to go take my Tech test before the Novice expires.  I
>would liek to know or know where I can find more information on the
>capabilities of 2 meter radios.  I have heard alot autopatches and
>repeaters on 2 meters.  Can I really use a 2 meter handheld like a
>cellular phone and call up a friend from the woods?

Well sort of, autopatch lets you make calls, but they're generally
half-duplex rather than full duplex like cellular, so you and your
friends will have to get used to taking turns talking. That won't
be hard for you since you're used to that in amateur radio, but
it may be hard for your non-amateur friends to understand. Also
unlike cellular, while you'll be able to make calls, you generally
won't be able to be called, IE the patches generally don't operate
in reverse.

There are many many 2m radios on the market, most of them are
pretty good. There are some exceptions. The worst feature of
many current radios is that they are subject to IMD and overload,
so you get a lot of pager crud and other interference. This is
largely because they try to double as wideband scanners as well
as being communications radios. The two uses place contradictory
demands on the radios. Unfortunately, most HTs fall in this
category (with the notable exception of the Radio Shack HTX202).

Unless you just *have* to have foot mobile operation, a mobile
rig is a better choice for a number of reasons. The larger radio
has room for better filters (though not all mobile rigs take
advantage of this) and allow greater standing current in the
front end (due to less concern about battery life). These two
factors can greatly improve resistance to IMD and overload.
The mobile rig will also have a far greater amount of audio,
making it easier to hear in a vehicle, will be designed to
work correctly with an external antenna (which will greatly
extend your range), and will run quite a bit more output
power (which will make listening to your signal on the repeater
more pleasant for everyone else than if you were operating with
a handie-scratchie). And lastly you can get all that for not
much more money than a good HT would cost.

>I would also like to knwo what goes on on 2 meters?, is it just alot of
>casual conversation, or are there contests?

Thankfully, there are relatively few contests on 2m, though there are
some. Most are limited to the narrowband segments using SSB and CW.
There is a lot of casual conversation, mostly via repeaters, though
there is considerable simplex operation in some areas as well. There
is also a lot of packet activity, satellite operation, foxhunting,
and the like. Some Dxing and contesting occurs in the narrowband segment,
requiring a *multimode* radio that does SSB or CW. Most 2m rigs don't
do those modes, only FM. If you are interested in that sort of activity,
then forget HTs entirely and concentrate on the multimode rigs.

And don't forget the higher bands. There is much of interest above
2m. On 70cm you'll find many of the same repeater opportunities offered
on 2m, but with a different crowd who may or may not better fit with
your personality and interests. And there's ATV on 70cm, as well as
more satellite operating, more weak signal work, and more advanced
packet operation. A dual-bander radio may be what you really want.
It'll allow you to work both 2m and 70cm. At 1.2 GHz you'll find
FM ATV, which can offer much better pictures, plus all the other
things you found on 2m and 70cm. It is less populated in many areas,
however, and you should ask around locally before making this jump.

There is so much that is interesting, challenging, and fun that
you can do on VHF/UHF that it will take you years to explore it
all. Operating through the repeaters is fun and useful, but if
that's all you do, you'll miss out on a lot.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (DARRYL LINKOW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ADMS-1B latest revision?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 19:00:00 -0800
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (DARRYL LINKOW)


About a week ago someone here indicated they have a Website with
the lastest version of the Yaesu ADMS-1B software update
available.  If anyone knows the URL for that Website, I would
appreciate it if they would post it here or Email me the info.
                73, Darryl KE6IHA

                [e-mail]

---
 * OLX 2.2 * Darryl Linkow [phone]  9 am - 5 pm PDT


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:05 1996
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Simon Collings)
From: [e-mail] (Simon Collings)
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 19:34:47 GMT
Subject: ANNOUNCE: MUFsight Propagation Windows Software

MUFsight is a Windows based HF propagation package that uses the
MINIMUF algorithm to plot predicitions on a world map.

Program Highlights

* Microsoft« Windows program. MUFsight is a Windows compatible
program that has been developed in C++ using Borland's Object
Windows Library for a natural look and feel supporting
sophisticated features. It is compatible with both Windows 3.x and
Windows 95.

* HF Propagation Prediction. MUFsight implements the much respected
MINIMUF algorithm to predict HF radio propagation conditions for
anywhere in the world. Frequency range is 1 - 150MHz for full
coverage of the HF band even at times of high solar flux.

* Map projections. Predictions can be plotted on either a
cylindrical or spherical world map projection as colour coded
shading. You can trace values simply by positioning your mouse on
the display (lat, long, bearing and great circle path are all
traced). Select between MUF and LUF plots from the toolbar.

* Single point predictions. Double-click anywhere on the map for a
full 24 hour analysis of MUF and LUF figures for the selected
geographical location.

* Home Location. Set your geographical home location simply by
entering the latitude and longitude.

* Monitoring Frequency. Choose a monitoring frequency and highlight
those parts of the world that should be audible at the current
time.  The AOR bundled version supports DDE querying of certain AOR
RS-232 radio control software to obtain the monitoring frequency
without having to type it in.  This feature is not available with
the standalone version.

* On-line context sensitive help. The full Windows hypertext help
system is used to provide you with the information you need wherever
you are in the program. In addition to the help menu, all dialogs
have a "help" push button which calls up information for that dialog.
You can also highlight individual menu options using the arrow keys
and obtain help on them by pressing <F1>.

* HF Propagation Working Aid. The G4SGI propagation working aid is
included free with the package.


A demo sof te software can be downloaded from my website (URL
below).

Simon

--
Simon Collings, G4SGI
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, ENGLAND
http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/






From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:06 1996
From: Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AO-27
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:03:06 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a very complete satellite station and I did not
make it yesterday either. Because of problems with bootleg
2m in central America it is now being turned off at 34 degrees
north latitude. You must listen when the bird is north of 34 degrees.


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:07 1996
From: Ed Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat,de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: AO-27 Operational?
Date: 17 Apr 1996 20:37:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4l3kq6$[e-mail]>
References: <4k99d1$qds$[e-mail]> <4kspn4$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Karl Jan Skontorp) wrote:
>
> In article <4k99d1$qds$[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail] says...
> >
> >Yesterday (Saturday 07 APR) I tried to receive the AO-27 downlink
> >on 436.800 MHz, but didn't hear anything. I listened from 0900
> >local time to 1800 using a Radio Shack PRO-2006 scanner in FM
> >narrow mode. The receiver was programmed to search from
> >436.750-436.850 MHz in 5 KHz increments. The antenna was an
> >outdoor sloping dipole for 35 MHz (it works from 30-950 MHz).
> >Also, my squelch was set very low so a weak signal would break
> >squelch.
> >
> >Any idea what the problem is?
> >
> >Brian Webb, KD6NRP
> >
> Hi!
> I have not worked it, but I heard that the sat is only working when in
> sunlight!
> 73's gl de Karl Jan LA3FY
>



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mr. D)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>
Date: 14 Apr 1996 03:36:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4kprr5$[e-mail]>

Are the telephone DTMF codes the same as the ones we use for hamming?
I thought maybe an easy way to add DTMF to a radio would be one of those
portable tone dialers.

--
Matthew Delaney  N2MDB    [e-mail]   ax.25: n2mdb@k2sk.#eny.ny.usa.na
Technical Engineer - @North.    Head IMP - Quasar MUD (delaney.j51.com:4000)
Personal - http://www.j51.com/~delaney    @North Group - http://www.chsn.org
 <!--  What do politicians and porn stars have in common? They're both
        experts at changing positions in front of the camera. -->


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:09 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4kprr5$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:00:04 GMT

In article <4kprr5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mr. D) writes:
>Are the telephone DTMF codes the same as the ones we use for hamming?
>I thought maybe an easy way to add DTMF to a radio would be one of those
>portable tone dialers.

Yes they are, but we also use the last 4 DTMF tones, A,B,C, and D
which aren't on most phones. A portable tone dialer can work, but
you've got to watch out that your mic has good response and that
you hold the portable dialer at the right distance from it to
get the proper deviation. It's not an ideal setup, but you can
make it work.

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 14:05:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4kr0q4$[e-mail]>
References: <4kprr5$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Mr. D) wrote:

>Are the telephone DTMF codes the same as the ones we use for hamming?

        Sure are.  When I first started using autopatch, I used a pad I
"found" in a telephone.

>I thought maybe an easy way to add DTMF to a radio would be one of those
>portable tone dialers.

        No idea if that would work but there are lots of mikes around with TT
Pads on the back.

>--
>Matthew Delaney  N2MDB    [e-mail]   ax.25: n2mdb@k2sk.#eny.ny.usa.na
>Technical Engineer - @North.    Head IMP - Quasar MUD (delaney.j51.com:4000)
>Personal - http://www.j51.com/~delaney    @North Group - http://www.chsn.org
> <!--  What do politicians and porn stars have in common? They're both
>        experts at changing positions in front of the camera. -->

73





From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Horak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>
Date: 16 Apr 1996 14:54:17 -0500
Message-ID: <4l0tt9$[e-mail]>
References: <4kprr5$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
writes:

>In article <4kprr5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mr. D) writes:
>>Are the telephone DTMF codes the same as the ones we use for hamming?
>>I thought maybe an easy way to add DTMF to a radio would be one of those
>>portable tone dialers.

>Yes they are, but we also use the last 4 DTMF tones, A,B,C, and D
>which aren't on most phones. A portable tone dialer can work, but
>you've got to watch out that your mic has good response and that
>you hold the portable dialer at the right distance from it to
>get the proper deviation. It's not an ideal setup, but you can
>make it work.

And in a different application altogether.....

Once, when up in the Texas panhandle, I was using my calling card from
a rotary phone.  My calling card carrier wouldn't take the rotary dialings
so I put the number into my HT and turned up the HT volume.  When the time
came for me to enter my calling card info, I keyed up my HT with the
speaker near the phone and the DTMF worked great!!!

David


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alan Burgstahler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:27:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4l1hdl$[e-mail]>
References: <4kprr5$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Ken Jones) wrote:

>Now, for one free ticket, who can tell us what the letters A B C D
>on your pad were labelled on the military TT pads, and (yep, it's a
>two-parter) what did those abbreviations mean?

Flash-Override
Flash
Interrupt
Priority

Did I win?

I have a back-lit 16-button pad made by Western Electric that has those
buttons on it with those letters, and it's mounted in a bakelite box with
a battery inside and a speaker on the bottom.  We used to hold them in front
of our GE and Motorola microphones to control radio sites, including down
UHF links to other sites, etc.  Haven't used it in some time, so every time
I take it down from the shelf I have to put a new 9v battery in it to get soun
d.

Alan Burgstahler - WA6AWD - Kent, WA, USA



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:14 1996
From: "Stuart R. Crawford VE6SRC" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLA Web Site
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 01:49:05 -0600
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960414014735.11561A-100000@sun>

Hello Everyone.

Please feel free to stop by the Amateur Radio League of Alberta
Web Page...For the latest info from VE6 Land

URL is http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~crawfors/arla

73 de Stu
VE6SRC

Stuart R. Crawford VE6SRC       [e-mail]
Calgary, Alberta                ve6src@ve6yyc.#sab.ab.can.na
[phone]

STOP BY THE ARLA WEB SITE -- http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~crawfors/arla



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:15 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLX012 N5FM marks anniversary
Date: 17 Apr 1996 13:36:15 -0400
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>




SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX012
ARLX012 N5FM marks anniversary

ZCZC AX58
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 12  ARLX012
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  April 17, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX012
ARLX012 N5FM marks anniversary

Special event station to mark Oklahoma City bombing anniversary

A special event station to mark the first anniversary of the bombing
of the Murrah Federal Building will take to the air at 9:02 CDT on
Friday, April 19, 1996, using the call sign N5FM.  It will be
operated by the Oklahoma City Autopatch Association, in cooperation
with the Salvation Army.  N5FM plans to stay on the air for at least
24 hours.

The initial operating frequency will be 3900 kHz.  Activity will
move to other bands as conditions require or permit.  N5FM will
transmit a packet message from the bombing survivors association to
the citizens of the world Friday, April 19, 1996, at 9:03 CDT.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (crum)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: ARRL insurance
Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:50:09 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Thanks to everyone who replied or posted about ARRL insurance.
It sounds great.  All replies from experienced people were positive;
besides the followups posted, I got two messages by e-mail from people
who had processed claims with no trouble.




From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:17 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: ARRL insurance
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 09:03:08 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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crum wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone who replied or posted about ARRL insurance.
> It sounds great.  All replies from experienced people were positive;
> besides the followups posted, I got two messages by e-mail from people
> who had processed claims with no trouble.

--------------5D6566644641
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Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Tnx"

How many times do I have to read messages from hams that send a
"Thank You" addressed to ALL. When one seeks help and
someone takes the time to respond, the least the receiver of
help can do is send a simple individual reply for thanks. After
all-the respondents to this call for help responded one by one.
I have received up to 75 messages in a call for help and sent
individual thanks to each. It was very time consuming, but it
was the right thing to do.

Would you at your wedding, if you were the groom, get up at the
end of the reception and yell out, "Gee, Thanks everyone for the
gifts?"
If you are a  T Y P I C A L  ham--absolutely.

It is unlikely you will respond to this if you did not even bother to
respond to someone who  H E L P E D  you.
--------------5D6566644641--



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:18 1996
From: Will Rogers <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Bird Strikes on tower guy lines
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 16:31:44 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello!

The amateur radio operators of Palm Beach County, Florida need your help.

We are looking for information regarding any problems with migratory
birds flying into towers or tower guy lines in or near migratory bird
"flyways."  There is a local concern since we have such an area on the
west side of our county.

Please respond if you have had such a problem to:

[e-mail]

Thanks for taking the time to read and respond to this message.

Vy 73 de

Will   WA4LQO


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:20 1996
From: cc wynn <wyn>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Bird Strikes on tower guy lines
Date: 16 Apr 1996 22:45:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4l17v2$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jens Goerke DB9LL) wrote:
>Will Rogers ([e-mail]) wrote:
>[...]
>> We are looking for information regarding any problems with migratory
>> birds flying into towers or tower guy lines in or near migratory bird
>> "flyways."  There is a local concern since we have such an area on the
>> west side of our county.
>[...]
>
>I don't know if this would help, but I think it should:
>Get some "line decoration" from a local kite shop. These are moving
>colourful objects that are usually attached to the lines of stationary
>kites.
>
>Hope that helps,
>       Jens, DB9LL

The problem may occur at night, when some migratory species fly, or in
bad weather, ie low ceiling.  I remember being in contact with a ham on
VHF several years ago who was on duty at a commercial VHF TV transmitter
site when a flock of birds began to ram his tower.  For a few minutes birds
fell from the sky all around his position.  It was quite impressive and
unusual according to the ham.  I don't know of any other instances since
then.



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:21 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Code speed wall solution?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4krqgi$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 13:58:32 GMT

In article <4krqgi$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jay Huldeen) writes:
>Without trying to start yet another thread on the relative merits of
>code, does anyone here have any practical suggestions for getting past a
>wall I've hit?  For whatever psychological or brain-wiring reasons, I
>have not been able to improve much beyond 11 wpm for about 2 weeks now,
>after a steep initial learning curve.  I need to test at 13 wpm by May
>20, and would like to be at 15 wpm at least.  Any suggestions appreciated.
>Thanks!

That's normal, Jay. This is the traditional "plateau" where the brain
runs out of horsepower to do conscious translation and you have to
develop the reflex of automatic translation at a subconscious level.
The only way to do that is drill, drill, drill at speeds higher than
you can comfortably copy. One day you'll suddenly find you can copy
well above the plateau with no discernable step in between. That's
when the reflex is fully formed and kicks in. It takes some people
a week or two to break through, others take months. Hopefully you
won't be one of the latter.

Don't fret that you're stalled, it happens to everyone. Set your
practice speed at 15 WPM and copy what you can. Don't worry about
missed letters, just keep copying. You *will* break through.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Thomas)
Subject: Re: Code speed wall solution?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4krqgi$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 05:43:14 GMT

My newsreader claims that Jay Huldeen ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Without trying to start yet another thread on the relative merits of
: code, does anyone here have any practical suggestions for getting past a
: wall I've hit?  For whatever psychological or brain-wiring reasons, I
: have not been able to improve much beyond 11 wpm for about 2 weeks now,
: after a steep initial learning curve.  I need to test at 13 wpm by May
: 20, and would like to be at 15 wpm at least.  Any suggestions appreciated.
: Thanks!

: --
: Jay Huldeen
: [e-mail]

Jay -

The learning plateau at 10 or 11 wpm is something that has been known
about for many years. In fact the 13 wpm code speed requirement was
deliberately selected because it was just beyond the plateau! What's
going on is that you are not yet used to hearing the letters at the
higher speed. If you have a computer with code practice software,
you might try spending a week or so just listening to 17 wpm or
so (the next plateau). Don't worry about copying it, but if you can,
so much the better! After the letter sounds are more familiar to
you, you may find that you're able to copy 13 wpm without much
trouble.

The 17 wpm plateau is due to the fact that at higher speeds, there
isn't enough time to write the letter if you copy letter for letter.
The 20wpm level was selected with that knowledge in mind! Above
17 wpm, you have to stack 3 or 4 letters that have been heard but
not yet written down without losing them. At still higher speeds,
CW becomes more like a language where you hear words instead of
letters. Folks who copy much faster (I'm told) don't write stuff
down because they can't write that fast, but they sure can hold
a conversation!

A demo for yourself... Write "The quick brown fox jumps over the
lazy dogs back" 10 times as fast as you can. If you print when
copying code, print it. Time yourself doing this. This will tell
you how fast you can write cw or not - an interesting number to
know...

73 de Glenn wb6w
--
*********************************************************************
* "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."              *
*                                                                   *
*  [e-mail]  - Glenn Thomas                                  *
*********************************************************************


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (John DeCicco)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code speed wall solution?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 04:40:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4kv888$[e-mail]>
References: <4krqgi$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jay Huldeen) wrote:

>Without trying to start yet another thread on the relative merits of
>code, does anyone here have any practical suggestions for getting past a
>wall I've hit?  For whatever psychological or brain-wiring reasons, I
>have not been able to improve much beyond 11 wpm for about 2 weeks now,
>after a steep initial learning curve.  I need to test at 13 wpm by May
>20, and would like to be at 15 wpm at least.  Any suggestions appreciated.
>Thanks!

>--
>Jay Huldeen
>[e-mail]

Hello Jay,

My suggestion is to keep doing what you're doing.  I used to listen to
W1AW at a speed just beyond what I could copy, stretching my ability.
Then, test time, 15 wpm will be cake.  The fastest I got was 45 wpm,
then I had to move to a smaller lot, and haven't been on the air in
2.5 years!!!

Have fun, and good luck.

73,
John
KC1IQ
Brandon, VT



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 00:49:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4ks6cb$[e-mail]>
References: <4jnbqh$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4kj90n$[e-mail]> <4kn9ho$[e-mail]>

Gareth Crispell <[e-mail]> wrote:


>>
>>If your VE group can provide a reference to a written rule or official
>>opinion that says that listening to and writing down the sounds, then
>>transcribing them to characters later is not "reception by ear", then
>>please do so.  Otherwise you are making up restrictions on your own
>>initiative, and should stop doing so.  By court order, if necessary.
>>      - Brian

>I think Brian is correct. How can any VE group make up their own
>arbitrary restrictions? On the other side of the coin, a person will
>probably never become code proficient with this limited copy technique.

True, but at 5wpm, it is still a perfectly viable way to receive and
decode the CW that is being sent.
Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Cecil A. Moore~)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 16:00:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ktrqk$[e-mail]>
References: <4kn9ho$[e-mail]> <4k6emn$[e-mail]> <316BC77A.4714@inter <4ko69p$[e-mail]>

In article <4ko69p$[e-mail]>,
Zack Widup <[e-mail]> wrote:

>... I like to carry on conversations on CW ... he transmits to me,
>I transmit to him, etc, often in the ranges of 30 WPM or so. You can't do
>that by translating the characters after you've written them on a paper.

Hi Zack, the overwhelming majority of hams can't copy 30 wpm by any means.
We are talking about *entry level* requirements. How fair would it be to
require someone to hit a home run before he/she is allowed to swing the bat?

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:27 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Date: 17 Apr 1996 15:23:47 -0400
Message-ID: <4l3gg3$[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gar
y
Coffman) writes:
>In article <4l0ei4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>Three is such a ticket as the "Codeless" General. It is really classified as
 a
>>"Conditional" ticket. The VE is required to accept the FCC 610 Form when
>>properly completed by a physicain attesting to the handicapped condition whi
ch
>>precludes an aplicant from successfully completing the exam requirements. AR
RL
>>policy to VE teams is to accept the application and submit any suspicions
>>concerning the validity of the situation with the rest of the test package
>>when returned.
>
>No. The Conditional license was a full General exam, but taken by
>mail (with a volunteer examiner) back when the FCC was still doing
>the exams. You qualified to take the Conditional exam by living more
>than 150 miles from an FCC examining point. The Conditional license
>was discontinued when the VE program was instituted since examination
>by volunteers then became the norm. And in a sense all licenses since
>have been "Conditional". The name stemmed fron the fact that you were
>subject to being called before the FCC and retested at any time in order
>to determine if your exam had been valid. Licensees who took their
>tests before the FCC weren't subject to this recall.
>
>The waivered licensee today is treated no differently by the FCC
>than any other licensee of the same class, IE *any* of them can be
>recalled to be retested if there is any suspicion of impropriety.
>
>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addres
se
s
>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

Yes the old "Conditional" was a General, however when I was a volunteer
examiner the 150 mile requirement was deleted. I gave all exam classes
and those who successfully passed were issued a ticket with "(C)" next to the
class definition.This identified the ticket as "Conditional". With the
establishment of the new VE program, the "(C)" was dropped from subsequent
tickets. Also the requirement of three examiners came into being. The old
program I was part of was specifically for those individuals unable to travel
to the FCC Field sites. I would get tests and applications from individuals
within a 50 mile radius of my then Northeastern Ohio location. Back in the
70's there were at least three of us volunteers serving the 19th Radio
District out of Detroit. As a result of my participation since 1976 I became
enrolled in the ARRL VE program.

73's Dick K8WHA>


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Connecticut QSO Party May 4-5, 1996
Date: 14 Apr 1996 06:42:21 -0400
Message-ID: <4kqkqd$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)

           1996 CONNECTICUT QSO PARTY - OPERATING RULES

Connecticut QSO party, sponsored by the Candlewood ARA, 2000Z
May 4 until 2000Z  May 5, with a rest period 0400Z - 1200Z.
Phone, RTTY and CW.

Work stations once per band and mode, mobiles as they cross
county lines. No repeater QSOs.

Single operator, fixed/mobile, Novice, QRP(5W), Multi-single
Multi-multi classes plus Connecticut club competition.

Connecticut stations may contact other Connecticut stations for
QSO/multiplier credit.

Connecticut stations exchange report and county; others exchange
report and state/province/DXCC country.

CW - 40 KHz. up from lower band edges; Novices 25 KHz. up from
low end; Phone - 1.860, 3.915, 7.280, 14.280, 21.380 28.380. VHF
- 50.150, 144.200, 146.580.  RTTY - Normal RTTY Bands (No WARC
Bands)

Score one point per phone, RTTY QSO and two points per CW QSO.
QSOs with club station W1QI and ARRL HQ station W1AW count 5
points.  CARA will be operating W1AW on Sunday, May 5 from 1400z
to 2000z, on or near the above-mentioned frequencies.

Connecticut stations multiply QSO points by states/
provinces/Connecticut counties worked (DX only one multiplier);
others multiply by Connecticut counties worked.

Plaques and certificates (100 point minimum). Special certificate
for working all 8 Connecticut counties.

Send entry and SASE for results by June 5 to CARA, P.O. Box 3441,
Danbury CT 06813-3441.

Good luck and 73 de Jim, KD1YV


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:30 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Pete Soper)
Subject: Different(ial) RFI Problem: partial solution
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:06:10 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kpd74$q2o$[e-mail]> <4kquoh$[e-mail]>

A while back I posted an article to the Antenna group describing how
the 100 watts from my HF rig through a G5RV or 20m Lazy-H was
coupling into my stereo speaker leads. The RF found its way to the
front of one of the amp stages, getting demodulated in the process,
and the result was audio out of the stereo's amplifier independent of
its volume control setting. Disconnecting the speakers and listening
via headphones confirmed that it was the speaker connections allowing
the RF through (in contrast with the problem affecting Mike, WB2TBQ,
where the AC line cord is the path into his stereo).

I tried various common mode chokes, including seven of the Radio Shack,
snap together rectangular filters. I also tried smaller gauge wire
wound bifilar around some Amidon FT-50A-75 toroids. No dice: the RF
current appears to be differential, not common mode.

Using the same toroids wound as inductors I made low pass filters for the
speaker leads and this cured my problem on 15, 17 and 20 meters. The
problem remains on 40 meters. I'm hopeful that by tweaking the filter
parameters a bit to get the cutoff frequency down lower I'll get enough
attenuation on 40 meters to have a complete cure.

What I'm currently using is a series 12uh inductor (5 turns of hookup wire
around the above toroid) with .1uf parallel capacitors on either side of
the inductor.

I started out with about 40uh (9-10 turns) but found this caused a
strange kind of distortion of the stereo sound when playing music. It
didn't chop the highs as I expected if I got the cutoff too low. Instead
it caused a scratchy, harsh distortion. I was quite surprised by this
effect, as 40uh would seem to be neglible to the stereo amp at audio
frequencies in comparison to the inductance of the speakers themselves.
I wonder what is happening here?

Also, the above toroids are the ones spec'd in a telephone RFI article
from QST some time ago (past year or two I think). With the number of bifilar
turns of magnet wire (and the same gauge) specified in the article, the
phones in my house were disabled by this filter. It was as if the phone
was off hook. Tests showed I didn't have a DC short and three
different phones suffered the same effect. For the next experiment I'll
be removing turns until the disruption goes away, then checking to see if
there is enough common mode filtering left to give my wife relief from
my noise.

To the wordy regulars of the Antenna Usenet group (and you know who you are):
WOW, I sure have been getting an education reading your stuff. Thanks, guys!

Regards,
Pete
KS4XG


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:32 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Pete Soper)
Subject: Re: Different(ial) RFI Problem: partial solution
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 20:59:35 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kpd74$q2o$[e-mail]> <4kquoh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:

>Sounds like a parasitic oscillation in the stereo audio PA. Try putting
>a resistor across the coil (start with 1k and work down) and see if that
>stops the distortion.

Thanks for the feedback, Gary (no pun intended).

Jack, WB3U pointed out that I had a lot more inductance than I thought.
My Autek RF-1 said one thing, the Amidon "AL" value for the toroid I
used said quite another. After more careful listening it turned out I
was clipping highs out of the audio and there was still some distortion,
even with the 5 turns on the cores. Jack speculates the distortion
might be core saturation.

So this is all bad news, as it means the three pole filter isn't going
to do the job for eliminating the RFI on 40 meters and in fact might
not cure it on the higher bands if I adjust the cutoff to not mess up
the audio.

My strategy now is this: air core coils, 4 poles or more, find something
that works very well with one channel, then consider ferrite with a lower
permeability if the size of the coils is an issue. I may have to filter
all five channels (surround sound system) and the minibox I chose looks
like it might get very dense now! Oh, and trust the Amidon charts, not
my Autek for inductance values (darn!). If I get distortion with air
cores I'll try your resistor mod.

One additional question I raised with Jack: If this really is a differential
mode RFI problem, is the stereo receiver's AC line likely to be providing
a return path, and if so, should I try aggressively filtering it?
I could put some very serious filtering in place on the AC feed before
my violin strings sounded like power tools :-)

Regards,
Pete
KS4XG


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Kolb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Different(ial) RFI Problem: partial solution
Date: 18 Apr 1996 15:31:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4l5n93$[e-mail]>
References: <4kpd74$q2o$[e-mail]> <4kquoh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Pete Soper ([e-mail]) wrote:
: A while back I posted an article to the Antenna group describing how
: the 100 watts from my HF rig through a G5RV or 20m Lazy-H was
: coupling into my stereo speaker leads. The RF found its way to the

: What I'm currently using is a series 12uh inductor (5 turns of hookup wire
: around the above toroid) with .1uf parallel capacitors on either side of
: the inductor.


Try using much smaller capacitors. If you short the leads of a 0.1 uF
disc cap, and measure it with a grid dip meter, you may see it resonate
as low as 5 MHz. Above it's self resonant freq, it acts more like a
inductor than a cap. A C value more like 0.001 may work much better
for you, and have less effect on the audio also.

John Kolb  KK6IL  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael Gathergood)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:15:35 +0100
Message-ID: <4km0a9$[e-mail]>
References: <4khkqu$[e-mail]> <4kihi6$[e-mail]>

In message <4kihi6$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Walt Davidson) writes:

> Not true.  We thought nothing of the kind.  I was a "young person" in
> those days (well, relatively speaking ...) and I was the Sex Pistols'
> number 1 fan!  (I still have the yellow T-shirt from the "Never Mind the
> Bollocks" tour in 1977 - pity it no longer fits me!)

He still has a safety pin in his ear as well, though these days it's
used to keep his hearing aid from falling out  :-)

73
Mike
G4KFK (Pretty Vacant)




From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Zack Widup)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: 14 Apr 1996 13:05:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4kqt75$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4khkqu$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Zack Widup)


In a previous article, [e-mail] (Martin Trump) says:

>In article <4kp8ml$[e-mail]>, Jay Huldeen <[e-mail]>
>writes
>>I agree.  I've noticed that civility has declined a lot since I was a
>>kid, too; people say things now that would have caused fist fights 20
>>years ago
>
>And you deduce what? ROFL!
>
>--
>Martin Trump
>

That there are a lot more fistfights now than there were 20 years ago   ;-)

Zack W9SZ



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:36 1996
From: David Hough <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 96 09:17:25  GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>
   Stephen Kennedy <[e-mail]> writes:
> soft on crime. Berlin closes off its streets each year to allow for
> a huge dance music party, the UK makes the same thing illegal.

So what's the Notting Hill Caarnival then?

And what has all this got to do with amateur radio?

Dave
--
[e-mail]
Any advice above is worth what I paid for it.




From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:00:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4kua42$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4krnup$[e-mail]> <4ktfi3$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Michael Gathergood) wrote:

>The RSGB stand at the Rainham rally (February) were giving away
>a free 1 pound lottery ticket to anybody who signed up on-the-spot.

I told you the day was coming when they'd have to pay people to join
them!

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jay Huldeen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: 13 Apr 1996 22:09:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4kp8ml$[e-mail]>
References: <4khkqu$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Nick Grose ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In message <4khkqu$[e-mail]> Mark Walsh wrote:


: > Yes, and a small price it is that I shall willingly pay...

: The trouble is these days that so many people are so inflexible
: and intolerant. They waste their lives fighting 'matters of principle'
: when really they just want to have their own way. Consideration
: for others and self discipline and restraint have gone out of the window.
: In the big scheme of things it is total futility. There is no easy answer.
: Not a very nice world for our children to grow up in.  There are few
: good examples set - just extremes of unrestrained behaviour.

I agree.  I've noticed that civility has declined a lot since I was a
kid, too; people say things now that would have caused fist fights 20
years ago -- only now people are offended if you ask them to reconsider
their words. "I have the right to say whatever I want!" blah blah blah.
True, you do have that right -- but do you have the sense to know whether
it is worthwhile saying?

--
Jay Huldeen
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:39 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:20:42 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <4k04tb$[e-mail]>, David <[e-mail]>
writes
>in a serious newsgroup like this one

Life is far too serious as it is, and now I cannot be humourous on this
ng?  I do try to be serious and offer help when I can - honest!

Incidentally - just for the curious (?) there have been no changes to
the HAMBITS and HAMCLIP pages during the last week, cos I've been away
in the Cotswolds! - but there has been a change or two to the VHF Comm
pages.

Mike

Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:41 1996
From: David Husband <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:32:22 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <4kit74$[e-mail]>, David <[e-mail]>
writes
>Tell me David Husband,
>
>I agree that you have to tolerate other people'e position and views, but
>do you have to put up with someone saying that they want to hit children over
>the head with a heavy iron file (which is what Walt Davidson said in a
>newsgroup)
>especially so soon after the Dunblane tradegy?

I think Walt's comments were made as a humourous remark; that was the
way I read them and I did not make the connection with Dunblane that you
made....

Also I see in another post of yours in this thread, that you again
connect Walt's remarks with the Dunblane tragedy. I do not think this is
the correct thing to do; I see no connection between these two
subjects...

BTW, I have 3 children, the eldest son (12 years old) lives with me and
can be very trying -- I feel sometimes that I would like to hit him over
the head with a heavy iron file -- not that I ever would, but when you
have your own children, you will understand how somebody can make that
type of comment !!

Regards..
--
David Husband, G8HJT, Portland, Dorset      01305 826900      0973 625969



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:42 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone])
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4kiqcj$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 18:45:45 GMT

BTW, SBE was still around a few years back, making Multibus
communication cards.  We used to use them in cisco routers.
73, doug


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Townley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: EMPLOYMENT AD: USWest Cellular/AZ
Date: 14 Apr 1996 13:20:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4krmli$[e-mail]>

US WEST CELLULAR, a leader in the field of cellular communications, has
immediate opportunities in Phoenix, AZ, for:

FIELD ENGINEER
You will be responsible for RF system design, cellular system optimization and

planning, cell site equipment specification, new site evaluation and support
for a market region.  Cellular systems design support for coverage and
capacity expansion.
Requires BSEE with 3+ years RF system design experience.  MSEE preferred.
Previous experience in cellular industry highly desireable.
Job: NV04-FE

CELLULAR OPTIMIZATION ENGINEER
Responsibilities include adjusting cell site parameters, fine tuning all cell
site parameters, dynamic mobile and base power levels, sectored and tiered
call placement to provide accurate hand-offs of mobile subscribers.
Requires ASE/ASEET (2 year degree) with 3 years cellular experience.  Higher
level degrees desireable.
Job: NV04-COE

NETWORK ENGINEER-SWITCH SYSTEMS
Manage the network capital budget and growth planning process, develop
integrated plans/designs for switching, power and common systems to support
cellular voice and data services.  Excellent project management/coordination
skills essential with thorough understanding of wireless communications
desireable.
Requires BSEE plus 3 years experience, or 7 years equivalent experience in the

telecommunications industry.
Job: NV04-NESS

NETWORK ENGINEER-TRANSPORT SYSTEMS
You will plan, design, and implement cellular network configurations and
interconnections for the efficient transport of cellular voice and data
traffic for the present year and up to 5 years into the future.  You'll also
manage the interconnect capital budget and growth planning process, optimize
network configurations to minimize interconnect expense.
Requires BSEE plus 3 years experience, or 7 years equivalent experience in the

telecommunications industry.
Job: NV04-NETS

-----
Qualified candidates should submit their resume referencing Job Code to:
Hiring Manager
US West Cellular
2201 East Camelback Rd. Suite 600B
Phoenix, AZ  85016
PLEASE DO NOT APPLY IN PERSON

--OR-- you may reply with an ASCII-style resume directly to the sender of this

message.

We are an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer.  Employment is
subject to successful completion of pre-employment drug testing and background

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Scott Townley                   "When the Going gets Weird,
[e-mail]               the Weird turn Pro"
                                -Dr. Gonzo, Sports Editor


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (arad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: English Project
Date: 13 Apr 1996 19:59:08 GMT
Message-ID: <4kp12c$[e-mail]>

To whom it may concern

Rf:     Ham radio - special project - "Young students studying English
through amateur radio

My name is Freund Bella and I am an English teacher in elementry school in
Israel. This year we have started a new original project of teaching
English through the amateur radio station 4X6EE which we have in our
school. This tool of communication enables us in a unique way to practice
the English language in real time. But since itÆs a new system - a new
method of teaching English - I have to write a special textbook for the
use of my students with dialogues and original subject which can be used
through the Ham radio talks. Therefore I will be much obliged on any help
I could get on the theoretical level as well as on the practical way. If
you are willing to take apart on this matter please apply to the following
address.

Bella Freund.
Email: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Gagnon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Field Day near Colorado Springs?
Date: 16 Apr 1996 05:48:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4kvcak$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi,

My wife and I will be in the Colorado Springs area on Field Day, and I
was wondering if there any clubs in the area that we could drop in on.
We'll be visiting my sister and it would be fun to show them what goes on
on Field Day.  Who knows, maybe I can get her and her husband interested
in the hobby.  Any general list of Field Day sites would also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

--
                                        >David, N1QGK<
David R. Gagnon, MD MPH                            [phone] [voice]
Boston University School of Public Health          [phone] [fax]
                            "ecrasez l'infamie"

       http://www-busph.bu.edu/Depts/Epi-Biostats/David_HomePage.html


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (cyberiaeal12)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: fm/am recent radio recordings from Soutrhern USA wtb
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 16:24:45 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4l2k9s$[e-mail]>


fm/am recent radio recordings from Southern USA wtb
          Id like to buy recent talk show public phone in radio tapes max 90 m
ins per taep can offer trade with same from
london or c$10 per tape.am very interested can supply free tapes
try one to start?
 E mail address [e-mail].(Bruce Sneddon)



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Van Nostrand)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: Icom 2GXAT, 2m
Date: 16 Apr 1996 15:11:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4l0dbr$[e-mail]>


For Sale:  Icom IC2GXAT 2m HT.  Factory new condition.  Wall charger, drop-in
Mastercharger, UT-49 decoder unit installed, LC-116 carry case.  7 watts
power, auto-repeater. More details if requested. Over $425 invested.
Purchased 6/1/95. Out of band receive keypad mod.

All packing, manuals, papers.

$275 + firm shipping.



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:50 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Get into SSTV
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 07:24:05 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

The following Amiga hardware and software items are for sale at Best,
somewhat reasonable, offer:


    ----------------------> Hardware <----------------------------

Amiga 1OOO 512 K on board memory, $50 plus from $7 to $13 for shipping,
extra df1: drive $40

Magnavox RGB and NSTC color monitor $125

AVT-used for slow scan amateur TV $110

NO COD, check first, references provided.
I do not screw anyone and no one screws me.
I have had 10 offers to buy the Amiga over the last year and refused 5
of them because the buyer really did not understand what an Amiga was
(the other 5 never sent any money, they just said "I'll take it)."

   .-.                                                               .-.
  /   \           .-.                                 .-.           /   \
 /     \         /   \       .-.     _     .-.       /   \         /     \
/--Burt Fisher K1OIK--------/---\---/-\---/---\-----/-----\[e-mail]\
         \     /       \   /     `-'   `-'     \   /       \     /
          \   /         `-'                     `-'         \   /
           `-'                                               `-'





From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry Flanders)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Good Logging Program?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:34:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4l0elj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4kunt7$[e-mail]>

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>says...
>>
>>  Can anyone refer me to a good HF QSO logging program that is
>>accessable for download from the internet?  It can be DOS, or Windows.
>>Any information will be appreciated!  Thanks and 73's
>>
>>N0ZYA   <<CW fer LIFER>>
===============================================================
A fully-functional logger for both general purpose logging and
contesting called LOGEQF (maybe LOG-EQF) is available for download. At
the moment, I don't remember where, but a web search on "EQF" will
probably turn it up. (Or e-mail me if you can't find it and I will try
to find it.)

It is not perfect, but it will do a lot, and you get to try it free
($30 to register and get extra features). It is a DOS program that
will use extended memory only if you have it. I think it would also
work in a DOS window under Windows.

Jerry    W4UKU    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Zack Widup)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 14 Apr 1996 13:08:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4kqtbj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jfk2p$[e-mail].p
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Zack Widup)


>>   _  ____________.--------.
>>   \`'  __________|________|
>>   /   [_(__]
>>  |    |       E-Mail: [e-mail]
>> .'   .'       Web Site: http://www.primenet.com/~cracked
>> |____|        FTP Site: ftp.primenet.com/users/c/cracked
>
>Why the silencer?
>
>Jeff NH6IL
>

Because it was invented by Hiram Percy Maxim?

Zack W9SZ



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dungeon Master)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham WWW Home Pages
Date: 15 Apr 1996 16:37:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4kumit$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

"Brian D. Morgan" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I am still collecting URL's of ham radio home pages. I would appreciate a lin
k from
>yours. My URL is listed in the signature.

>Regards,
>--

>Brian D. Morgan, CPBE
>Internet Consultants of Springfield
>http://www.fgi.net/~bmorgan/wa9iaf.htm
>[e-mail]    217-698-5970


Ok, ok.. I'll bite..

http://www.primenet.com/~n7ory/index.html

Amateur / CB / GMRS info..



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:54 1996
From: Ralph Zancha <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Hamfest
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 07:53:53 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The Moultrie Amateur Radio Klub is having its 33rd annual hamfest on
April 21, 1996 in Arthur, IL.

The hamfest is being held at the Moultrie/Douglas county fairgrounds
right behind the Arthur High School off of route 133.

We have a large indoor vendor area as well as free tailgating. Ticket are
$4.00 per person over 14 years old.

Talk in is on 146.055/146.655 and 449.275/444.275.

Tables are available on a limited number in the main building at $8.00
per table. For more information or to reserve a table call daytime
217-543-2178 or evenings 217-873-5287 and ask for Ralph.

Thanks
Ralph Zancha
WC9V



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:55 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Tom Skelton   WB4iUX <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hamfest list - WN4???
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (skeltt)
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:37:45 GMT

Sorry I can't remember the poster, but I used to
get a SE USA hamfest list from WN4??? (awful when
the memory goes, isn't it?).  I suspect I was removed
from the distribution list due to frequent connection
problems here.  Would someone please be so kind as
to forward the info on this list's creator??

mni tnx...73 Tom WB4iUX
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: webbte <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Heath HW 2036 birdie problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (webbte)
References: <4l3bls$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:00:09 GMT

Vince -

I had a 2036 in use for years up until just last year and never
experienced the problem you have. I used both mobile and on
packet and had it apart several times to tweak and th e like but
again, never saw your problem so doubt if its a design flaw.
Wish I could offer help otherwise.

ted / ac4cs
>==========Vince Roberts, 4/17/96==========
>
>I have an HW 2036 with the annoying problem of a full-scale,
>pin-the-meter birdie on several frequencies, most noticable on 146.00,
>147.00, ect. It's also so strong that 146.52 is useless. This radio
>uses the main oscillator as a frequency standard during calibration by
>means of a shielded jumper which is removed for regular operation. The
>problem is when the jumper is removed the "test" signal remains. I'm
>told by a local ham who was a technician for Heath that it's an
>unavoidable by-product of a synthesized radio and the only "solution"
>is to sightly detune the main osc to move the birdie.
>
>The other suggestion was to shorten an internal shielded jumper what
>was close to a 1/4 wave in length, which I've done. No difference.
>
>I own two other thumbwheel synth radios as well as two 2-meter synth
>HTs and NONE! of them have a noticable birdie. I have a hard time
>believing that this is a design problem. If you have any experience
>with this problem and this SPECIFIC radio I'd like to hear from you.
>Please: no general suggestions. Everyone has a theory and they're only
>too happy to share them with me :)  The way the radio is now it is
>completely useless for me. Thanks.
>--------------------------------------------------------------
> Vince Roberts         e-mail - [e-mail]
> Rochester, NY         packet - N2XMT@WB2WXQ.#WNY.NY.USA.NOAM
> [phone]         Fido   - 1:2613/313
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>




From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:57 1996
From: Scott Macmillan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help with FT736 mod.
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 20:58:15 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


I  have a Yaesu FT736R fitted with the FTS-8 tone squelch unit.

I want to mod the radio so it can switch on other equipment
(such as a tape recorder) when the FTS-8 receives a valid tone,
and opens the squelch.

Someone told me to connect a wire to the front panel 'BUSY'
light, and us a transistor to switch a relay.  This is almost what
I want, but the busy light comes on even when the FTS-8 keeps
the squelch closed.

Any ideas?


--
Best 73's
DE Scott - GM7OMU
Glasgow, IO75tv.


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Date: 11 Apr 1996 10:45:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4kins6$[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <Pine.BSD.3.91.960330180854.10551A-10000 <[e-mail]>

charles copeland ([e-mail]) wrote:
<stuff deleted, read backwards if interested....>

: I don't blame the kid, with hams like KH2D around.

: Hang in there Nate, this old fart will be dead by the time you hit 40.

Charlie boy, the basic plan for this newsgroup is:

1. Read
2. Think
3. Type

You left out most of step one, and all of step two. But we'll be nice
and give you another try. Read what the kid and his buddy popgun
write. Then read what other hams respond with. If you look hard,
(well hard for you, probably) you will see that a lot of people
have wasted a lot of keyboard time on these two jerks trying to
explain the good parts about ham radio. If anyone sends them anything
that makes sense, they don't respond. If anyone sends them anything
argumentative, they blast away. Neither one of them are interested
in ham radio, they are both just interested in seeing how much
shit they can stir up in this newsgroup. I'm not wasting any more
of my time trying to explain the hobby to them, since you are such
a nice guy, you have my permission to take over the task.
That is, if you are a ham. I assume your name is Charlie from the
address of your message, but you were so busy with step 3 you forgot
to sign it......

73, Jim KH2D





From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:23:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Date: 15 Apr 1996 11:15:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4ktb5d$[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <Pine.BSD.3.91.960330180854.10551A-10000 <[e-mail]> <4kins6$[e-mail]> <4kjl5a$[e-mail]> <4kocgi$[e-mail]> <4kojig$[e-mail]>

Nathan Ryan Gingras ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Jim Kehler ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : Nathan Ryan Gingras ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : : Jim Kehler ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : : : charles copeland ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : : : <stuff deleted, read backwards if interested....>
: : : :
: : : : : I don't blame the kid, with hams like KH2D around.
: : : :
: : : : : Hang in there Nate, this old fart will be dead by the time you hit 4
0.
: : : :
: : : : and give you another try. Read what the kid and his buddy popgun
: : : : write. Then read what other hams respond with. If you look hard,
: : : : (well hard for you, probably) you will see that a lot of people
: : : : have wasted a lot of keyboard time on these two jerks trying to
: : : : explain the good parts about ham radio. If anyone sends them anything
: :
: : : You are absolutely right! They have wasted their time trying to tell me
: : : that ham radio is good.. I know that some aspects of ham radio are ok,
: : : but most are entirely whack!
: :
: : : N8.
: :
: : Are you still here Nate ? We thought you were going to band practice....


: Did I say 'usenet sucks'? No, I think I said 'HF sucks'.  Of course I'm
: still here.
: Talk about ME trying to stir things up... look at this guy trying to
: reincarnate this thread!



: Nate.

Just checking Nate, wanted to make sure your trolling rod wasn't
getting rusty........

73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Impending HDTV....
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 07:49:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4l2fds$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Michael White) wrote:

>>The projected cost figures of the HDTVs are extremely high
>>compared to current TVs.   I suspect the majority of american
>>families will be unable to come up money for the HDTVs.

>Don't be too sure. Back in the 1950s, even ordinary TV sets cost
>around $700; that's several thousand in 1990s dollars.  Even today,
>lots and lots of people fork over $2k - $3K for big screen TVs. I
>even saw an 80 inch set for over $8000 (awe inspiring experience!).
>Never underestimate the value people place on entertainment.

This reminds me of an editorial in one of the prominent Hi-Fi
magazines back in the early 80's.  The editor claimed that the cost of
components and production of the medium itself would prevent *CD's*
from ever becoming a household item.  Sure wish I still had a copy of
that article. <g>

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (AC6V)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: INCREDIBLE HAM RADIO INFO SOURCE
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 19:24:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4krjck$[e-mail]>


As there is a lot of requests for ham info that can be answered on WWW
pages, I thought I would post THE PAGE that indexs tons of link
information.

Included are ham companies, ham clubs, Special interest groups from
packet to microwave.  Propagation, ham software, repeater frequencies,
hamfests, publications, university ham clubs, antique radio, ATV
&SSTV, Contesting, Digital Radio, DX, Emergency Radio, Handicapped,
QRP, Homebrew, Linux, Microwave, Space, Spread Spectrum, Callsign
servers, Elmer List, Gov Bodies -- FCC Coast Guard, Scanners, Solar
flux, SWL,  and LOTS LOTS MORE.

See Ron Klimas's Link Page at:


http://uhavax.hartford.edu/disk$userdata/faculty/newsvhf/www/ham-www.html


Might just be the last Bookmark you may need.

Really well done

73
Rod


Hark: I have hurled my voice to the far reaches of the earth!
What King of old could do thus ?
-- AC6V



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE HAM RADIO INFO SOURCE
Date: 16 Apr 1996 22:02:10 -0400
Message-ID: <4l1jf2$[e-mail]>
References: <4krjck$[e-mail]>

In article <4krjck$[e-mail]>, AC6V <[e-mail]> wrote
:
>
>http://uhavax.hartford.edu/disk$userdata/faculty/newsvhf/www/ham-www.html
>

You just have to love the directory structure on that server. Of course I
do realize it's a Vax. I'm intimately familiar with DecVax and DG-Eclipse
systems.
>
>Might just be the last Bookmark you may need.

Somehow I doubt that.
>
>


--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
== [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:03 1996
From: Joe Rouvier <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Index of repeters?
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:11:32 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Is there a net-accessable index of repeters somewhere?


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott W. Binder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Index of repeters?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 11:06:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4ku369$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Joe Rouvier ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Is there a net-accessable index of repeters somewhere?

        Have you checked http://www.arrl.org?

                                73 de AB6TR



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:05 1996
From: Joe Rouvier <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Index of repeters?
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 20:54:35 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>



On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Burt Fisher wrote:

> Joe Rouvier wrote:
> >
> > Is there a net-accessable index of repeters somewhere?
>
> Is that like a repeater?

har, har.  OK, so I can't spell.  Gimme a break.


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:06 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Info Re: Ft-1000MP
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4knd4t$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:53:42 GMT

In article <4knd4t$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (SZumbrun) writ
es:
>Does anyone know how, and/if it is advisable to increase the power out of
>the Ft-1000MP to say 150-200 watts?  Steve W6SHO e-mail [e-mail].
>Thanks!

Probably not. The power increase is insignificant for on air operation,
and the heatsink and PA devices aren't designed to handle the increased
stress.

Bumping up to 150 watts would only represent a 1.76 db increase in
signal strength, and that's barely perceptable on HF. The rule of thumb
is that if you can't increase power by 10 db, it probably isn't worth
doing. So the next step up from 100 watts should be 1000 watts if
you want a worthwhile improvement in signal.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (David L. Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info Re:Ft-1000MP
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 03:24:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4ksiih$[e-mail]>
References: <4knd4t$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (SZumbrun) wrote:

>Does anyone know how, and/if it is advisable to increase the power out of
>the Ft-1000MP to say 150-200 watts?  Steve W6SHO e-mail [e-mail].
>Thanks!

Probably not adviseable.  I have the old FT980 with the same final
stage as the FT1000D.   The limiting factor is the power supply/heat
sink.  I did make the Fox Tango change to run 120 to 130 watts with
the 980.

Dave K4JRB



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:08 1996
From: Dave Bell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TS440S
Date: 17 Apr 1996 00:30:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4l1e3e$[e-mail]>

Does anyone here know of a mod for the Kenwood TS440S to make
it have true FSK keying for RTTY use.  The Hal P38 instruction
manual mentions the shift voltage to setup for this radio.  In
all of the mod articles I have seen there has never been a
mention of modifying this radio for FSK use.
Dave



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:09 1996
From: [e-mail](JOSEPH A CIRA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: latest web/www ham sites & pages
Date: 17 Apr 1996 14:56:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4l30qr$[e-mail]>

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IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!!


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        mods,programs,test ques,lists,software and much more....
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        sample exam tests and answers for all class's..
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INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:> [e-mail]
/EX
S


--
*****************************************************************************
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PASADENA,CALIFORNIA 91107           |  at 818-584-9071 any speed 8-N-1
e-mail to [e-mail]      | dedicated to amateur radio !
                ARRL/LAX/ACC        | ARRL MIRROR SITE...........
*****************************************************************************
        researching the CIRA family genealogy
                in TERMINI IMERESE,PALERMO,SICILY,ITALY.............
_____________________________________________________________________________





From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:10 1996
From: Joe Rouvier <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Linux CW instructor
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:08:32 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know where I might get something to help me learn CW that
runs under Linux?


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:12 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for QSL's from...
Date: 16 Apr 1996 03:10:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4kv32k$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4klhn1$[e-mail]> <4kqght$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <4kqght$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim K
ehler) writes:
>From January 12th, 1986 until now I have worked 47,816 stations on HF.

what's that? about 14 stations a day for 10 years or so? all different? it's u
nusual
to keep qsl'ing skeds..

>From that total, 14,255 stations are from the U.S., leaving a total
>of 33,561 non U.S. stations. If I sent everyone I worked a QSL card,
>at my expense, the postage would be (using old postage costs):
>
>U.S.       14,255 @ $0.28 = $ 3,991.40
>Non U.S.   33,561 @ $0.50 = $16,780.50
>
>For a total of $ 20,771.90 postage. Add the cost of 47,816 envelopes,
>and 47,816 QSL cards. Lets, for argument, say the cards/envelopes
>cost $ 2,300.00. Add that to the postage, and you get ruffly
>$ 24,000.00. Now, do you have $ 24,0000 tied up in your radio
>equipment ? I doubt it. So why should I tie up $ 24,000.00 in awards
>to hang on other people's walls ?

you don't QSL in a lump. you do it continuously. 15 cards a day if we use 32 c
ents
for postage and 18 cents per card for production costs (hi? lo? it's just a nu
mber
to make the math work out) so that's $7.50 a day.

you might live in a 500,000$ home, but you usually don't pay for one in a lump
.

>I never was interested in collecting cards. At first I thought it

so you should tell your contacts you won't QSL instead of also wasting their
time and yours later.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:13 1996
From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 96 11:44:40 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Dave Heil" writes:

> I maintain that most folks save their copies and that the protective
> plastic bag was something I've already paid for.  I've pointed out that
> QST always had such protection (in the old days, QST was mailed in a
> brown paper wrapper).  Is the League in such sad financial state that it
> is forced to cut pennies?

Might I suggest that you swap your membership address to the direct
overseas mailing address instead of the APO you are using.  My copy
arrives in in London in a baggie and is pristine.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <"10-Apr-96..8: 03:04".*[e-mail]> <4klneg$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 11:44:45 GMT

In article <4klneg$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Burch Akin) write
s:
>I have the same problem with my QSTs.  I recieve 3 other mags and they
>are always fine, but my QST is always ripped up (usually the front
>cover.)

I usually get my QSTs intact, but I have noticed that I now get them
about a week later than others in my general area. I suspect my mail
carrier is reading them first. He couldn't do that when they were sealed
in a baggie. At least my mail carrier is literate and has good taste in
magazines. :-)

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:15 1996
From: Dave Heil <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 03:42:58 +0000
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman wrote:
>

> You've got net access, just drop them Email for replacement copies,
> worked for me. I'd prefer getting my copies pristine too (and most
> of mine still come that way), but 130,000 wrappers a month isn't
> pocket change (and wrapper prices recently increased sharply). Maybe
> the ARRL should offer QST in baggies for an extra charge for those of
> you having problems with your mail. I'd prefer to avoid another dues
> increase myself.
>
> Gary
> --
> Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
> Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addre
sses
> 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
> Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

Many DON'T have net access nor the inclination to ask for new copies each
month (or any one month for that matter).  Any organization which buys
130,000 of anything each month should be able to negotiate the best
possible price.   Plastic bags at additional charge can be nixxed too
since we received our magazines in wrappers for all of those years at no
additional cost--it was built in to the dues structure.  It's not
as if we'd be getting something extra, we're now NOT getting something we
already had.

I've found that Canadian members are now receiving their issues in
plastic bags again due to complaints.  Foreign clubs are also receiving
their copies in plastic bags.

Dave OH2/K8MN


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:17 1996
From: Scott Miner <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola MCX100
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 11:40:42 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello,

        A friend of mine needs a service manual for a Motorola MCX100
radio. Please contact me if you can help him out.

Thanks,

Scott
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:17 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Bill Lupo <[e-mail]>
Subject: N.W. New Jersey Hamfest
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 06:15:31 GMT

Hamfest on Sunday April 28, 1996 at the Budd Lake Firehouse on Rt. 46
Budd Lake NJ. Tables still availaible. For more info call Bill WR2M
201-770-0242 eves and weekends till 11pm or weekdays 201-584-6550
73
De Bill WR2M


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:18 1996
From: "Jack A.Peterson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need Schematic and info for Realistic DX300 Rcvr.
Date: 11 Apr 1996 23:40:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4kk58r$[e-mail]>

I need a schematic and service info for a Realistic DX300 communications
rcvr.  I'm willing to pay copying costs and mailing.  Thanks! Jack
Peterson K0AMB [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Dallaire)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New England Schedule Confilicts
Date: 14 Apr 1996 19:33:31 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Who were the bright folks that scheduled the Boxborough Convention and
Hosstraders for the same weekend??

I think maybe we gotta blame Hosstraders for this one..

Boxborough is announced at the convention.  If you go to the convention in
October, you'll know when the next one will be to the date and where
coming up in two years..

I think I'll go to Boxborough!!

73..

--
Replies to [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:20 1996
From: Glenn McAllister <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Zealand forcing CW to be dropped international
Date: 16 Apr 1996 09:09:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4kvo4t$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4ki68d$b3a$[e-mail]> <4klj9j$[e-mail]> <4kp3c5$[e-mail]>
To: wyn

cc wynn <wyn> wrote:
..snip
>>realises that CW is an obsolete mode and is is ONLY ONE FACET of amateur rad
io
>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>It has been reported on this forum more than once that about half of the QSO'
s
>currently found on the HF frequencies are CW.  So, how do you reason that
>MF/HF CW (OOK Morse) is an obsolete mode?  Is it just because you want it to
be,
>or that economics (unique skills are expensive!) have forced its demise from
>some sectors to be replaced by digital gimmickry with dubious reliability?
>Why do we still hear commercial 500KHz stations on CW?  Has the false economy
>been exposed?  Inquiring minds want to know.
>
>73,
>Clay N4AOX
>

Hi Clay  (isn't that a type of dirt??    (-:   )

OK, I accept 'obsolete' was a bit harsh.  I agree CW still has a great deal of
 merit
as a communication mode.  I'm a no-code licensee, but I use CW to 'make the gr
ade'
when SSB doesn't manage on 6m, 2m & 70cm.  I would HATE it if I didn't have th
at
capability to fall back on when packet, FM & SSB can't get through.  And I kno
w that
if my microphone breaks down I can still bang a couple of wires together.  But
 you
know how much chance I have of getting a QSO on 2m CW??   FA.   If I call CW o
n the
SSB call freq, at least someone will hear me (if I call long enough and hard e
nough
someone might dust off the dusty old key one shelf (and prob ask me to QSY hi!
)).

But to REQUIRE proficiency in CW??  Why not Packet?  SSTV?  or indeed any othe
r
SPECIALISED mode which is part of this extensive hobby?

The first Real Ham I met (an uncle of a school friend) didn't use a microphone

unless he really HAD to.  He was 99% into SSTV.

--
Glenn McAllister                      ZL2TLD
PO Box 3675                           Delta-Wye Electronics
Wellington
New Zealand




From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:22 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Old 20 Extra only freq?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kn3mp$[e-mail]> <4kos7e$4rf$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:16:44 GMT

Hans K0HB ([e-mail]) wrote:

: For a brief period (1953-1968) there was no "incentive
: licensing", so Generals had access to all portions of all
: bands. In 1968 incentive licensing returned in essentially
: it's present form, in which the Generals remain on 20 and
: 75 except for the portions reserved for Advanced and Extra.

That was a nice historical perspective, Hans.

Since we are on  the subject, can you help to jog my memory a bit?

I was first licensed as a Novice in 1966, and got my General later
that year.  Along came incentive licensing, and I got my Advanced
in 1968.  Missed several good opportunities to upgrade to Extra
over the years, so now I am hustling to finish reading the ARRL
theory manual before the question pool changes in July.

I am sure that someone must had advanced the idea of grandfathering
the existing Generals to Extra, since we were using all the amateur
frequencies already.  What were the arguments against that idea?

I remember only being so outraged that I quit ARRL, and only recently
rejoined last year, a 27-year lapse.

Thanks in advance and 73 de Jim - KF6CR


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Old 20 Extra only freq?
Date: 13 Apr 1996 02:31:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4kn3mp$[e-mail]>
References: <4klh9g$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
: Is my memory correct?  Was there not a 20 meter sub-band for the
: exclusive use of extra class licensees?  The time period was 1955-6
: and as I recall it was above 14.3 mHz.  Can anyone shed light on this
: for me.

: Thanks

: Dean


: Rest in peace Mr. Ben Johnson!


:            C. Dean Norris
:       Amateur Radio Station K7NO
:       e-mail to [e-mail]


Dean, maybe you are thinking of 14.150 to 14.175 ?
Or 14.000 to 14.025 ?

Jim, KH2D



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Betsy Henderson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Please help me! Reward offered.
Date: 17 Apr 96 04:19:45 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

SUBSTANTIAL REWARD OFFERED FOR
RETURN OF MISSING MATERIALS. NO
QUESTIONS ASKED.

        Missing: One royal blue Jansport backpack
containing two file holders (one pink, one red),
notebooks and numerous papers -- many written in
Chinese -- in clear plastic envelopes.
        Reward offered for return of materials, which
may have been dumped from the backpack.
        Last seen in the trunk of my car (Blue Mazda
hatchback) in the School of International Relations
and Pacific Studies Parking Lot last week.
        If you have any information, please respond
to this message or call collect 1-703-243-9136.




From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (F.Oliveira)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL info required
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:22:35
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: qsl

I am looking for QSL info on the following callsigns:

HZ1TA
JY5IN
KA5TQF
JY3ZH
IK4SDY
OD5JY

Your help will be appreciated as I would like to have these DX's confirmed.
Thanks in advance and best 73s from ZS1ZG
Fernando @ iafrica.com


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (cyberiaeal12)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio recordings
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 16:19:32 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4l2k04$[e-mail]>
Keywords: test






From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 96 12:19:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202

>Jeff I think it works just fine.  Not only am I happy with my
 HTX-202, I just bought an HTX-212 and I love it.  But, of course,
 thats just my opinion.

Does the HTX-202 have PL decode standard (right out of the box) or
do you have to install it as an accessory?
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------


 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:27 1996
From: Ted Falkowsky <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 00:56:11 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

ROLAND STINER wrote:

> Does the HTX-202 have PL decode standard (right out of the box) or
> do you have to install it as an accessory?
> ---
>    OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------
>
>  * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)
>
>               .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
>
>       __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
>
>      |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
>
>       ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126Yup!  Straight
 out of the box.


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:29 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Paul Moller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:56:13 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kbsq3$[e-mail]> <4kcrr4$[e-mail]> <4kegvc$[e-mail]> <4kg5k0$[e-mail]>

Radio Shack has the HT-202 on sale this month for $189.xx. I was
thinking of getting one, any thoughts pro or con?

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:30 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 11:59:45 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Paul Moller <[e-mail]> w
rites:
>Radio Shack has the HT-202 on sale this month for $189.xx. I was
>thinking of getting one, any thoughts pro or con?

If you want a rugged 2m ham bands only HT with *excellent* IMD performance,
go for it. You won't find anything better currently sold into the amateur
market. If you want a scanner, or a Gameboy, it's not for you. There is only
one outstanding problem with the set, there is a birdie on 146.76 MHz. That's
a harmonic of the colorburst crystal used in the TT pad.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Gagnon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202
Date: 16 Apr 1996 20:05:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4l0uhl$[e-mail]>
References: <4kbsq3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Bruce Bryant ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Radio Shack has the HT 202 on sale for $189.  Is this a good deal?
: And please, no more derisive comments about RS itself.  That one
: has been pretty well beaten into the ground.
: Bruce Bryant, KC8BWL

I've had my 202 for a while and would recommend it.  It did take going
through three units before I got a good one however.  Don't buy it
without the 5 year service agreement.


--
                                        >David<
David R. Gagnon, MD MPH                            [phone] [voice]
Boston University School of Public Health          [phone] [fax]
                            "ecrasez l'infamie"

       http://www-busph.bu.edu/Depts/Epi-Biostats/David_HomePage.html


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 00:18:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4krq1n$[e-mail]>
References: <4kbsq3$[e-mail]> <4kqjg7$[e-mail]>

>Bruce Bryant ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Radio Shack has the HT 202 on sale for $189.  Is this a good deal?
>: And please, no more derisive comments about RS itself.  That one
>: has been pretty well beaten into the ground.
>: Bruce Bryant, KC8BWL

Bruce,

 IMHO, it is. Just be sure to test all the rigs in stock for a birdie on
146.76. Some have it, some do not. Mine has it, and it is in the shop for the
third time trying to fix it. BTW, get the TSP with it. Covers all, including
my 2 year old dropping it out the car window. Not that he has done that, but I

asked and was told it even covered that. ;)

Jim Smith N8AVX


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:32 1996
From: Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: 12 Apr 1996 04:06:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4kkkrq$h7i$[e-mail]>
References: <4k54c3$[e-mail]>

When I was finishing UCLA, I worked at a Radio Shack. To my
knowledge, I was the only technical person who worked in my
sales district (I was trained as an aircraft radio repair tech
in the USAF).

The district manager cut me some slack because of my experience.
I was able to expell obnoxious/rude/abusive customers from the
store at will. Of course, I also took the opportunity to pick up
on as many attractive female customers as possible.

Well, that's all.

Brian Webb, KD6NRP


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:34 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack: You got blank stares? Try hiring the knowledgable
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4jrbps$[e-mail]> <4kbrae$[e-mail]> <4ki59j$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:34:34 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kim Helliwell) write
s:
>
>Mostly, that's been my experience.  The one person that worked in
>the store closest to me that seemed to know anything whatever about
>radios is gone, replaced by clueless, bubble-gum chewing high school
>students.

Gee, I must say that the person going into Radio Shack for technical
advice has to be the one without a clue. That's not why they're there.
Radio Shack is a convienence store. Do you expect gourmet recipes from
the checkout clerk at your 7-11 too?

Treat doing business at Radio Shack like you would doing business
with any other Quickie Mart . Go in, grab what you want off the shelf,
pay the checkout clerk, and leave. Simple.

I've had very little trouble with Radio Shack clerks. They generally
know how to work the register and how to make change. I really don't
expect anything else from them, so I'm rarely disappointed.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:35 1996
From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RPI Hamfest (Troy, NY) Cancelled
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 18:10:58 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The RPI Amateur Radio Club, W2SZ, has announced that their hamfest, scheduled
for Sunday, April 28th, at the RPI Armory in Troy, NY, has been cancelled.
For additional information, connect to the RPI hamfest web page
http://generators.com/hamfest.html or contact Joan Warren, KB2RQW, via email
to [e-mail] or on the linked 146.82 and 224.42 RPI club repeaters.


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tony Salvador)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RS-232 to TTL Rig Control ...
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 13:30:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4l2rtm$[e-mail]>

If you are thinking about using you PC to control
you ham rig check out my page and the FT-736R CAT
section. The unit shown is usable on all rigs that
require a RS-232 to TTL level converter to control
the rig. Kits include all connectors needed for
connection to Kenwood, Yaesu or Icom rigs and as
well as others.

Check it out ...

http://www.gcr1.com/n5gpi/

73,
N5GPI


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:37 1996
From: Ted F <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:04:37 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]>

Nathan Ryan Gingras wrote:
>
> Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
> :
> : I am bored with the hobby.
> :
> I don't think the hams will be sad to see you go, but that's because you
> think for yourself... noone wants that in ham radio!
>
> I sold all my ham junk too! I am just plain SICK of ham radio!
>
> Congratulations from Nate.It's a shame you've given up on ham radio.  There'
s a growing movement to modernize this
aging service.  Instead of giving up, maybe you could help forge the future.
Just a
thought...
Ted F.
N3SQY


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:38 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 07:22:57 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

                         C O M P L E T E  S T A T I O N

I am selling my entire station as one package. See it, test it, buy it.

Icom 751 with CW filters, RC-10 keypad,

Icom 2KL Solid state 5OO watt amplifier

Icom AT-500 automatic tuner

Cushcraft A3 Beam

Alliance Ham rotor

40 foot crank up tower

$3000 cash and I do mean cash. It all works and it is all connected.

I am bored with the hobby.





From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 16 Apr 1996 16:08:16 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4l0glg$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l04it$[e-mail]>

>: I am bored with the hobby.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  Some of us kink of suspected that

He's probably tired of listening to YE OLDE FAHRTZ ramble on, day after
day, with their useless rhetoric about how valuable Morse Code is and how
amateur radio would be so much poorer without it <gag!>

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:20:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4l3nro$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l04it$[e-mail]> <4l0glg$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Ted F <[e-mail]> wrote:


>>
>> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>>  KF4DDMI'll second that!  If you want to use code, so be it.  BUT, code sho
uld not be a
>requirement for ANY ham license.  Even the marine service is giving up the th
e CW ghost.
>It's time we stop living in the 50's and move up to the 90's.
>Ted F.
>N3SQY

Not ALL of us OLDER hams are opposed to deleting the CW requirement. I
feel that International law allowing, that perhaps there should be a
codeless variety of the general license, but would oppose deleting
morse from the advanced or Extra class.
As an aside, would any of you be in favor of a TOUGHER exam in lieu of
the morse requirement, I mean something that proves you know what you
are doing...like a test where the questions and answers cannot be
memorized?

Food for thought.

Bob

KG7WC




From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry Flanders)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Solar Cells Efficiency?
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:31:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4krn9u$[e-mail]>

Last September, I bought three unused 12" x 24" PV panels at a hamfest
in NC. They were unmounted, just the glass panel with the bare metal
coating on the back. I was told they were rated at about 900 mA at
about 18 volts each.

I have finally gotten around to actually connecting electrodes and
testing them out. The first one only put out about 250 - 275 mA in
bright SC sunlight yesterday (charge current into a 12 v lead-acid
battery, with an isolating diode in the circuit (same without the
diode - I checked).

I thought that perhaps the first one was bad, so last night I wired up

connectors to the remaining two and tested them out today. Same thing
- about  250-275 mA each.  Right now, all three are going, with a
separate  isolation diode for each, charging a total of about 800 mA
in full sunlight. I briefly shorted the three while connected
together, and measured only about 1 amp total (about 27V open
circuit).

Keep in mind that I am talking about 6 square feet of collector area,
and there is as yet no protective glass or cover of any kind. Quickie
rough calculations tell me my efficiency seems to be way down.

Any comments? What charge current do you guys get per square foot with
PV cells? They have been unused for a long time - any reason to expect

improvement in the future? Maybe I just got rejects - would rejects be
as consistent as this? Do rejects deliver low current, or low voltage,
or what?

Jerry   W4UKU    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:41 1996
From: Ted F <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Sorry
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:27:10 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

oops!  My news reader must have burped when I sent my last post! Sorry!!!!!
Ted F.
N3SQY


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:42 1996
From: Carl Estey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tailgate Hamfest in Minneapolis/St. Paul area
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 11:43:21 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

***  HAMFEST June 8th - Minneapolis area ***

The fifth annual Tailgate Swapfest will be held on Saturday, June 8th,
from 7:30 AM to 1 PM at the Honeywell parking lot located at Stinson
Avenue exit of I-35 in NE Minneapolis.  This event is sponsored by the
TwinsLAN ARC and will be the ONLY hamfest in June in the Minneapolis/St.
Paul area.

This is a really fun hamfest as it is easy to be a seller - just park
your car and open the trunk!

Drop me e-mail for more info.

73, Carl WA0CQG
--
Carl Estey, Amateur Radio Station WA0CQG
Honeywell Inc., Homes and Building Control, MN10-2518, 1885 Douglas Dr.,
Golden Valley, MN 55422 [phone]
E-Mail:  [e-mail] or [e-mail]
(TCP/IP)


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (KC7FYS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Theory Discussion-Gen'l PLEASE READ
Date: 16 Apr 1996 08:12:24 -0400
Message-ID: <4l02r8$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KC7FYS)

Hello,
I am a tech plus, KC7FYS/7J1AWL, and I have many questions about words I
hear in the discussion groups like, "loading" and "impedance" and "L/C"
network.  Is there any place where I can participate in a discussion on
general topics of this kind without bothering those who know much more
than me.  Please email me with the info if you know of a newsgroup or you
are an elmer to whom I can email these questions.  Also, I know of the
practice tests for the General exam, but is there a TUTORIAL of some sort
that's available for a Macintosh user such as myself?  I want to learn
more.  Please email me with info.
73,
Jonathan


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rob Cheply)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Trade
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 02:57:31 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

        I am currently constructing a collection of box schematics,
willing to trade some fer some. E-mail me for more info. on what I've
got. ThanX


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dungeon Master)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Traveling to CA
Date: 15 Apr 1996 16:36:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4kumh2$[e-mail]>
References: <4k4hbq$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>Hi
>I will be leaving Easter sunday going to Southern California fo 10
>days.  Would like to take my dual band HT with, but I am wondering how
>I should 'announce' my call on the repeaters in that area, so that
>they don't think they are hearing me due to a propogation 'freak'.

>Thanks for any help you can provide.

>Please either post response here or e-mail me direct.

>Thanks Again

>Dave  KB9MXD

Well Dave, last time I was in So Cal, they didn't use call signs.. So
I guess when in Rome... (GRIN)

But seriously, when my wife and I went to LA last year, it was crazy
on 2m. Who ever they were didn't use calls, had extremely foul mouths,
and tried to cover each other up.. (Hmm, sounds familiar.. CB?)
I finaly asked a couple of guys on 440 about the trash on 2.. They
told me "we have to give them somewhere to play or they'll be all over
the bands.."

I shut my radio off until we left later that week. Sad, really sad..

CU

Rob

N7ORY
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.primenet.com/~n7ory/index.html




From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Roy Lewallen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WHATEVER  HAPPENED  TO  THE  "CUBICAL  QUAD"  HF  ANTENNA?
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 96 08:29:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4knoir$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4kl5ml$[e-mail]>

In article <4kl5ml$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Jim Kehler) wrote:
>    I don't know whatever happened to Bill Orr's book, its around
>here somewhere.....

If you're looking for a book about quads, I recommend _The Quad Antenna_ by
Bob Haviland, W4MB. It's published by CQ Communications (the parent company
of CQ Magazine).

Roy Lewallen, W7EL


From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Whistlers
Date: 14 Apr 1996 10:44:45 -0400
Message-ID: <4kr30t$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Thor-Ivar Skofsrud ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello!

: I am a student at ╪stfold Regional College in Norway, and I am working on a
: project where the goal is to develop a system that can recognise and classif
y
: whistlers. At this point I have some data from a french satellite that
: contains some whistlers, but I need more data to test the system. If anyone
: know where I can find data that contains whistlers or have any other
: information about this subject, please contact me.

: Please direct to other relevant newsgroups also.
<don't know how to do that!  snip>

   I think there are recordings of whistlers etc on

http://www.pw.physics.uiowa.edu/mcgreevy/

GL and 73

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Thu Apr 18 15:24:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Whistlers
Date: 16 Apr 1996 17:22:16 -0400
Message-ID: <4l1328$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4kr30t$[e-mail]>

Gerard Foley ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Thor-Ivar Skofsrud ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : Hello!

: : I am a student at ╪stfold Regional College in Norway, and I am working on
a
: : project where the goal is to develop a system that can recognise and class
ify
: : whistlers. At this point I have some data from a french satellite that
: : contains some whistlers, but I need more data to test the system. If anyon
e
: : know where I can find data that contains whistlers or have any other
: : information about this subject, please contact me.

: : Please direct to other relevant newsgroups also.
: <don't know how to do that!  snip>

:    I think there are recordings of whistlers etc on

: http://www.pw.physics.uiowa.edu/mcgreevy/

: GL and 73

: Gerry K8EF

The correct source might be

http://www.pw-physics.uiowa.edu/mcgreevy/

Sorry for whichever is wrong, and sorrier if both are wrong!

GL and 73

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:52:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chris Smolinski)
Newsgroups: comp.home.automation,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "Invisible" Pet Fences
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:23:39 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kb0qs$[e-mail]> <4l3iac$[e-mail]>

In article <4l3iac$[e-mail]>, Kelly McArthur
<[e-mail]> wrote:

Any information on how much (if any) radio interference these units cause?
I'm a ham/swl, and don't want anything that would cause QRM. I doubt there
would be a problem with the higher frequencies, but I am into LW/MW DXing
also. A 10 kHz square wave can generate a lot of harmonics.

Chris



> I've looked at the transmitter a little, and it appears to be based on an
> inductive loop (if you twist the wires together at any point, the twisted
> length of wire won't trigger the collar.  This makes it easy to run wires fr
om
> the house out to the perimeter of the yard without blocking the pets travel
> across the wire that feeds the fence).  I put a 10K resistor across the
> terminals, and measured a 10KHz square wave that varied in amplitude
from about
> 1V p-p to 5V p-p as you adjust the range.  The 10KHz carrier was
modulated into
> bursts of a couple of milliseconds.  There were three patterns depending on

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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:52:54 1996
From: Kelly McArthur <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.home.automation,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "Invisible" Pet Fences
Date: 19 Apr 1996 17:48:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4l8jl0$[e-mail]>
References: <4kb0qs$[e-mail]> <4l3iac$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Chris Smolinski) wrote:
>In article <4l3iac$[e-mail]>, Kelly McArthur
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Any information on how much (if any) radio interference these units cause?
>I'm a ham/swl, and don't want anything that would cause QRM...
>
>

I have an older Kenwood and Cushcraft R7 relatively close to the fence, and
while I don't listen much to LW stuff, I've never heard a hint of interference
.
I'm pretty sure it's an _inductive_ current loop system, rather than low frequ
ency
RF, so you won't be able pick it up on radio's.  That's why the signal cancels

itself if you take part of the loop and twist the wires together, the inductiv
e
signal cancels since the current is running in two different directions.  This

makes it easy to connect the perimeter loop to the transmitter in your house w
ith
out creating a radial barier the pet can't cross.

[e-mail]   KC7NFR





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:52:55 1996
Newsgroups: comp.home.automation,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Faith Senie)
Subject: Re: "Invisible" Pet Fences
Message-ID: <4lbqll$[e-mail]>
References: <4kb0qs$[e-mail]> <4l3iac$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l8jl0$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 23:06:29 GMT

)>In article <4l3iac$[e-mail]>, Kelly McArthur
)><[e-mail]> wrote:
)>
)>Any information on how much (if any) radio interference these units cause?
)>I'm a ham/swl, and don't want anything that would cause QRM...

One other thing to consider is QRM to the dog!  My parents have one of these
invisible fence setups for their miniature poodle.  They used to leave
his collar which contains the gadget that zaps him if he wanders too
far afield on him all the time, until they turned on the TV one day while
he was lying on the floor beneath it.  His yelping could probably be
heard in the next county!  Some field got set up in the TV that set
off the zapper in his collar, and it gave him quite a jolt.  They only
put his collar on him when they send him outside now.

We haven't gotten much opportunity to test out the system with ham gear,
but so far he hasn't jumped out of his skin when my husband was playing
HF out in the car when we visited.  Of course, he wasn't standing near
the car at the time, either (the dog, not my husband...)

73 de Faith N1JIT

Faith
[e-mail]
http://www.senie.com/faith/



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:52:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (KKemper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1.5kw UHF amp...how much?
Date: 18 Apr 1996 18:51:20 -0400
Message-ID: <4l6h18$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KKemper)

Why not get ahold of K1FO i.e. Lunar Amps. He has 432 amp kits and
complete amps for sale. Also if you look in the ARRL UHF/Microwave
projects manual a few types of legal limit amps are shown.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:52:57 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Abraham Stavsky)
Subject: Any repeater listings for VE3?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:06:51 GMT


Could use one - much appreciated.
KE6OCM
--


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:52:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:23:24 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kprr5$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l1hdl$[e-mail]> <4l3ccu$[e-mail]>

Once upon a time, Clark W. Hanley wrote 32 lines on the subject: Re:
Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>; here's some of it:

>Hi
>   You are close, the I stands for Iimedeate not Interrupt.
>Clark
>[e-mail] (Alan Burgstahler) wrote:
>>[e-mail] (Ken Jones) wrote:
>>>Now, for one free ticket, who can tell us what the letters A B C D
>>>on your pad were labelled on the military TT pads, and (yep, it's a
>>>two-parter) what did those abbreviations mean?
>
>>Flash-Override
>>Flash
>>Interrupt
>>Priority
>
>>Did I win?


Okay kids, settle down now.  Alan was close. but Clark got the
prize.  Clark should be getting his free ticket Real Soon Now...

Patterned after the military record traffic message precedences, the
call precedences in AUTOVON are Routine (no distinction, often got
cut off) Priority, Immediate, Flash, and Flash-Override.

As I recall it, the only folks who used the FO button were the
technicians who wanted to talk back to the World from Out-backistan
or wherever they were.  Sure beat the orderwire...but maybe I'm
remembering it wrong.


73,

Ken Jones
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:00 1996
From: rich (Rich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>
Date: 22 Apr 1996 02:47:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4les03$[e-mail]>
References: <4kprr5$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l1hdl$[e-mail]> <4l3ccu$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Ken Jones wrote:
>>
>> Patterned after the military record traffic message precedences, the
>> call precedences in AUTOVON are Routine (no distinction, often got
>> cut off) Priority, Immediate, Flash, and Flash-Override.
>>
>> As I recall it, the only folks who used the FO button were the
>> technicians who wanted to talk back to the World from Out-backistan
>> or wherever they were.  Sure beat the orderwire...but maybe I'm
>> remembering it wrong.
>
>You're remembering it wrong :-)
>
>I was stationed at remote radar sites (before going AWACS) and the Flash
>Overide was an Air Defense (real-world and simulated) priority.  We went
>to Flash Overide upon any Unknown or Hostile track entering our coverage.
>This ensured that we would not get cut off with NORAD for any reason.  The
>thinking was, you would see the track, and several seconds later be
>exterminated.  Thus, the Flash Overide was usually the last they heard from
>you.
>
>If you used this priority for any other purpose, you were hunted down and
>Court Martialed/Article 15'd.  In either case your career was over.  We had
>a lot of Draftees join the USAF back then to stay out of the Army, and they
>liked to use that feature.  It got them out of the military very quick :-)
>
>--
>Steve Sampson, N5OWK
>USAF Retired
>mailto:[e-mail]
>http://swissnet.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x63BA9AF9



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:01 1996
From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF>
Date: 20 Apr 1996 23:33:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4lbs8i$[e-mail]>
References: <4kprr5$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Ken Jones) wrote:

>
>Now, for one free ticket, who can tell us what the letters A B C D
>on your pad were labelled on the military TT pads, and (yep, it's a
>two-parter) what did those abbreviations mean?
>
>73,
>
>Ken Jones
>

Well, if memory serves, the Autovon system uses F,I, FO, and P

Flash, Interupt, Flash Override and Priority...but I think the order
is/was;

F I P FO

I had a 16 button TT pad backlit with the Autovon markings in it...
Cant recall what happened to it...


Chris

WB5ITT

Sr Telecom Tech

Entergy-Wst Div Telecommunications Dept.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Betchy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Code requirement relaxed WAS: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:51:12 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l39cj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l65ii$[e-mail]> <4l8ejs$[e-mail]>

I guess with your scenerio, all the jammers, foulmouths etc. we hear on
80, 20 15 and just about all others, are Generals or below, bootlegging.
C'mon get real, the real hams come in all classes of licenses and code
proficiency does not mean legal operation. Just check your violations in
QST.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gconklin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Code requirement relaxed WAS: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 19 Apr 1996 08:06:43 -0400
Message-ID: <4l7vkj$[e-mail]>
References: <4l39cj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l65ii$[e-mail]>

In article <4l65ii$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Curt Phill
ips) writes:
+In article <[e-mail]>,
+   [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
+>In article <4l39cj$[e-mail]> john maxwell <security.john.maxwell@
nt.com> writes:
+
+>But the lack of time argument you advance rings rather hollow. If you
+>expect to have the time to *operate* HF over the course of your lifetime,
+>surely you can find a bit of time *once* to program the wetware to pass
+>the Morse test in order to do so. Sure, you may think it is hazing, sure
+
+  ESPECIALLY now, with the widespread availability of computers (and
+Morse code practice programs) and the relaxing of the code requirement.
+
+  Code requirement relaxed?  Yes, the multiple choice code tests,etc.
+now available represent a loosening of the code requirement.  I passed
+the Novice test in 1968, the General & Advanced in 1970 and Extra in
+1995.  In the "olden days", you had to have one minute of absolute SOLID
+copy...  miss one letter, start over.  I have to travel approx.
+150 miles to take the test, and if I didn't pass on the "first
+try", went home with nothing and couldn't take the test again for a
+month (like I could travel the 150 miles or more immediately the
+next month, especially since I was 15 years old when I passed
+General).  This is pressure!
+
+  For Novice practice, I had no suitable receiver and no cassette
+player (I got my first cassette recorder/player in 1969 and it
+cost $100 then, approx. $400 of today's dollarettes).  Today, my
+computer can give me limitless random practice and limitless
+"practice tests".
+
+  You can take the test 3 times in one sitting, usually close to where
+you live.  I passed the 20 wpm(?) test at a regular meeting of the local
+Raleigh Amateur Radio Society.  If you fail, often the test will given
+somewhere else close by within a week or so (and I say this as a resident
+of a medium sized "city" in a relatively rural state).
+
+  With the multiple choice test, you don't even have to copy the required
+*item* perfectly to correctly answer the question.
+
+e.g.
+==============================================
+    You copy "N-me is Ric--rd"
+
+QUESTION:
+  "The operator's name was:
+
+a) Ronald   b) Timothy    c) Richard   d) Ricardo  e) Anthony
+===============================================================
+
+If you don't copy ANYTHING you have a 20% chance of getting it right.
+Pretty tough, huh?
+
+   I passed the 20 wpm exam on my first sitting and scored 100% on
+the test (I absolutely, positively and totally lucked out on one
+question).  Realistically, I'd say my real code speed proficiency
+(measured the "old" way) was more like 15 wpm.
+
+   So it's never been easier than it is now, even for the "higher"
+license classes.
+
+========= Opinions expressed are solely those of the author ==========
+Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)|"I don't want to achieve
+Chairman, Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group| immortality through my work.
+ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA   | I want to achieve it through
+Energy/Recycling BBS 704-547-3114   | NOT DYING."     -- Woody Allen
+==[e-mail] ============================================

   All this stuff may be interesting to someone, but it is NOT
part of rec.antiques.radio+phono, which specifically excludes ham
radio.  Unless, of course, we are treating the Morse code as
antique, no longer in production, thus an object of collection as
a remembrance of things past.  It may be, the FCC still thinks
that we need to maintain the skills of running spark gap
transmitters.

    By the way, didn't you have to travel that 150 miles
barefoot, in the snow, and with no food?

     Now that was pressure.





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul S. George)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Code requirement relaxed WAS: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 15:59:53 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l39cj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l65ii$[e-mail]> <4l8ejs$[e-mail]>

In article <4l8ejs$[e-mail]>, Jim <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I look at the Morse code requirement this way:
>
> It forms an arbitrary elitist requirement that bans certain individuals
> from practically all of HF.  It limits the inept and the poorly
> motivated to undesirable sectors of the amateur bands (like 75 phone).
> For the skilled, the dedicated, and the motivated, it rewards us with
> uncrowded band sectors populated by gentlemen who've earned the
> privilege.

With this kind of logic, I'm surprised that hand-cranking a model-T is not
a requirement for getting a drivers license!

Morse code is a fine sideline for those who are interested... nothing
more!  I would think that knowledge of modern communication theory would
be more relevent (not really... amateur radio is for the most part an
appliance hobby)!

--
Paul S. George  ([e-mail])


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Price)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Code requirement relaxed WAS: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 21 Apr 1996 13:37:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4lddlu$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l39cj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l65ii$[e-mail]>

In article <4l65ii$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>>In article <4l39cj$[e-mail]> john maxwell
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>But the lack of time argument you advance rings rather hollow. If you
>>expect to have the time to *operate* HF over the course of your
lifetime,
>>surely you can find a bit of time *once* to program the wetware to
pass
>>the Morse test in order to do so. Sure, you may think it is hazing,
sure
>
>  ESPECIALLY now, with the widespread availability of computers (and
>Morse code practice programs) and the relaxing of the code requirement.
>
>  Code requirement relaxed?  Yes, the multiple choice code tests,etc.
>now available represent a loosening of the code requirement.  I passed


What multible choice code test arew you talking about, I have traveled
long and far and have seen very few if any. After studying almost 8
month for my 13wpm, I havent seen one

David Price




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Code requirement relaxed WAS: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 21:29:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4l90d2$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l39cj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l65ii$[e-mail]> <4l74i3$[e-mail]>

In article <4l74i3$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt ) wrote:
>In <4l65ii$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Curt
>Phillips) writes:
>>>In article <4l39cj$[e-mail]> john maxwell
><[e-mail]> writes:

>>player (I got my first cassette recorder/player in 1969tmoded mode
  but even when we do accomplish it we
>have to be derided because it ain't like it was.

  Your first line got a little garbled, but *I* WASN'T deriding ANYONE.
I wasn't lambasting people with a no-code license.  I wasn't saying
code is great.  I was simply telling about the way it was, not so
long ago, as compared to the way it is now.  The fact is that  I got
Novice/General/Advanced under one set of rules, and Extra under another.
If I was deriding people licensed under the new testing system, then
I'd be deriding myself for getting an "easy" Extra.  The fact is that
I followed the current rules of the FCC each time I tested, which is
all I or anyone can be expected to do.

  IMO, the major problem with the way they test today is providing a
list of all of the questions, not the CW portion.  Still, I don't
deride or degrade anyone who tested under these rules (as *I* did).
I simply think that the FCC is making a mistake.

  To me, the history of the hobby is a part of its charm.  We have a
93 year old ham in RARS, and I enjoy hearing him talk about the
REALLY old days.  In fact, we have a LOT of hams with decades of
experience in RARS, and I think it is important for us to know
"where we came from", so to speak.

>Personally I found the CW portion of the test Pavlovian and a waste of
>time the only greater waste is the half of the HF bands devoted to a

  Perhaps, but the CW portion of amateur radio testing is FAR from the
only "waste of time" I am forced to engage in nowadays, and hardly the
most egregious either.  However, I encourage anyone who really hates it
to let the FCC (and ARRL and whomever) know how you feel.  I'm not a
big CW fan, but I don't find it all that onerous either.

[snip]
>on the internet?" If anyone suggests CW is a waste of time for those
>not interested in it they are accused of being lazy something for
>nothing welfare types. I fully expect such accusations to be directed
>at me for this post.

  Then you have to consider the source.  When the no-code license was
being considered, I wrote a very unbiased article about it in my
column in MODERN ELECTRONICS magazine.  In essence, all I said was that
the FCC was thinking about doing this, and you should know about it
and write them if you care about it.  I didn't advocate it, or say
that people should be against it.  I simply reported on it.
  I got hate mail (and e-mail) for writing even that.  But it didn't
really bother me.  THEY were the ones who were upset, not me.  Therefore,
it was only a problem to them, not to me.

>Let this nonsense about how tough it was in the good/bad old days go we

  I don't think the history of the hobby is nonsense.

>all took the tests that were in place when we decided to get our
>licenses and everyone new or old should be treated as a brother in the
>hobby. Locally this is mostly how it is and I am glad because if it was

  I agree and try to help our new licensees, and even taught a class
for prospective Novice/Tech (even, gasp, NO CODE Techs) as recently as
two weeks ago.

  So I didn't mean my posting as negative toward new licensees, and if
you'll read it carefully you'll see that there is nothing in it that
would be taken that way by a reasonable person.  I was just relating a
little history.

  Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

========= Opinions expressed are solely those of the author ==========
Curt Phillips, CEM KD4YU ex-WB4LHI) |  "Computer users will need a
Chairman, Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group|  mouse when they grow a
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh ARS; NRA   |  third arm." -Pres of WordStar
Energy/Recycling BBS 704-547-3114   |                   circa 1983
== [e-mail] == [e-mail] ==


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (JJ Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code speed wall solution?
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:08:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4l60jk$[e-mail]>
References: <4krqgi$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi Jay (and everyone else),

I guess most of us who use ARRL tapes to learn the code run into this
problem.  I hit the 10 WPM wall and it only took perserverence to get
through it.  It also took the help of another ham.  Actual on-air QSOs
helped me get above and beyond.

With the help of KQ5I (now known as AA4GZ) who would hunt me down
whenever I was using the 80 meter Novice band back in 1982, my speed
went up to 20 WPM and above in a pretty short time.

I would make a contact with someone at a nice comfortable speed for
me.  As soon as the QSO was finished I would hear, "KA5MWD DE KQ5I"
At first I dreaded it because Bill would get me into a QSO and after a
few minutes I would find myself sweating and asking him to QRS.

After a couple of months of this the QRS speed was getting faster and
faster.  At first it was QRS down to 10 WPM then (and happened
suddenly) it was QRS down to 13 WPM.  When I busted that 13 WPM
barrier it really was sudden.  It was like, "WOW...I couldn't copy
this before?  Peshaw..."

Each of us "experienced" folk has/had our own unique method.  You will
choose one too that will work for you.  You will hear from many people
and you will receive many suggestions/ideas...and some combination of
those will be the method that will work for you.

But, the bottom line is this, Don't give up.  As Gene Shepard (those
of us who did the ARRL Intro to Morse Code are familiar with this)
would say, "Hehehehe concentrate [pause] concentrate."

Good luck.  Hope to work you sometime

  --... ...--   -.. .   .-- -.- .---- ...-

     7     3    d  e   w k    1     v

[e-mail] (Jay Huldeen) wrote:

>Without trying to start yet another thread on the relative merits of
>code, does anyone here have any practical suggestions for getting past a
>wall I've hit?  For whatever psychological or brain-wiring reasons, I
>have not been able to improve much beyond 11 wpm for about 2 weeks now,
>after a steep initial learning curve.  I need to test at 13 wpm by May
>20, and would like to be at 15 wpm at least.  Any suggestions appreciated.
>Thanks!

>--
>Jay Huldeen
>[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Diamond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code speed wall solution?
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 10:01:17
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4krqgi$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kristin R
achael Hayward) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Kristin Rachael Hayward)
>Subject: Re: Code speed wall solution?
>Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:39:26 GMT

 does anyone here have any practical suggestions for getting past a
>:wall I've hit?  For whatever psychological or brain-wiring reasons, I
>:have not been able to improve much beyond 11 wpm for about 2 weeks now,
>::

I've taught (and still do teach) Morse, and have seen this many times. It used

to be called "The Psychological Pause" (Wireless World June 1941, p 162).

Let me quote a little part of it (and remember, it's 1941- hence the quaint
English);

".....and there is little doubt that it is due to a quarrel between the
concious and the subconcious minds. The bossy concious worries; "I can't get
it... What was that letter?... Oh, I am making a mess of it......This will
never do, it's worse than last time" ; and the squashed subconcious cannot
make heard its gentle; "Let me alone, I'm getting it all right..Oh, do let me
alone!" ".

Some of the main points made in the article (and I agree), are;

-try to relax, very little progress can be made if you're "uptight".

-try not to concentrate too hard on a difficult letter; let the "automatic"
part of your brain do the work.

-don't let yourself be thrown by a missed letter, just put a dot, then carry
on.

-use the "context" of the correcly copied material to give you clues (this
comes later).

-Don't practice when you are tired; this is counter-productive.

-Adopt regular practice habits, every day, every two days- whatever, try to
stick to it as far as possible. Frequent short sessions are much better than
infrequent long sessions.

-Don't worry, you will break through the barrier, just work away at it like
you would tackle any other worthwhile job (what's that little quote I hear in
some American movies- "when the going gets tough, the tough get going" (or
something like that). Another one I like is "if you never quit- you can't be
beaten"

73, Kind Regards, Drew, VK3XU.









From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:11 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Codeless General?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4l0ei4$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:20:17 GMT

In article <4l0ei4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Three is such a ticket as the "Codeless" General. It is really classified as
a
>"Conditional" ticket. The VE is required to accept the FCC 610 Form when
>properly completed by a physicain attesting to the handicapped condition whic
h
>precludes an aplicant from successfully completing the exam requirements. ARR
L
>policy to VE teams is to accept the application and submit any suspicions
>concerning the validity of the situation with the rest of the test package
>when returned.

No. The Conditional license was a full General exam, but taken by
mail (with a volunteer examiner) back when the FCC was still doing
the exams. You qualified to take the Conditional exam by living more
than 150 miles from an FCC examining point. The Conditional license
was discontinued when the VE program was instituted since examination
by volunteers then became the norm. And in a sense all licenses since
have been "Conditional". The name stemmed fron the fact that you were
subject to being called before the FCC and retested at any time in order
to determine if your exam had been valid. Licensees who took their
tests before the FCC weren't subject to this recall.

The waivered licensee today is treated no differently by the FCC
than any other licensee of the same class, IE *any* of them can be
recalled to be retested if there is any suspicion of impropriety.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:13 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: COLORADO Freqs
Date: 18 Apr 1996 13:44:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4l5gva$[e-mail]>
References: <4l3is8$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Steve W. Teegarden ) wrote:
>Aloha,
>
>I'll be relocating back to Colorado soon. Does anyone have the ACTIVE repeate
r
>freqs for UHF and VHF that I could get ? I was last out there three years ago
,
>and I found over half of the freqs that I programmed into my SABER where
>useless. Seems that alot of Freqs are "Taken" but only a few are USED....
>(Same problem here in Hawaii ! :>)
>
>Areas Interested in : Denver, Ft. Collins, Vail, Dillon, Colorado Springs, an
d
>Estes Park. Also any that has coverage in the Gleenwood springs area ?
>Thank You !!

The Colorado Amateur Radio Page at http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/ has
a list of all allocated repeaters in Colorado.  This is one of the few
repeater lists on the Internet provided by the area frequency
coordinator.

For active repeaters in the Denver area, see the CRA Web Page (URL below).

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tony Salvador)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Computer Control For Your Rig !!!
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 13:43:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lg2il$[e-mail]>

If you are thinking about using you PC to control
you ham rig check out my page and the FT-736R CAT
section. The unit shown is usable on all rigs that
require a RS-232 to TTL level converter to control
the rig. Kits include all connectors needed for
connection to Kenwood, Yaesu or Icom rigs and as
well as others.

Check it out ...

http://www.gcr1.com/n5gpi/

73,
N5GPI


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (ben ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Converting Computer to Amateur Bands?
Date: 21 Apr 1996 20:14:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4le4vu$[e-mail]>
References: <4l6pqo$[e-mail]> <4lbft8$[e-mail]>

>>I have received an inquiry from an amateur friend in the UK requesting
>>information about a "slot" which when installed into a computer allows
>>the computer to act as an amateur transceiver.

Sorry, I didn't see the original post.  Comer Communications (see ad, back
pages of QEX and elsewhere) offer a two-card general-coverage DSP rx with
ham-band exciter.  The demo software would'nt run under W95, but I suspect
that's been sorted by now.  The rig ain't cheap, but then it's not
real *expensive* either...

ben / aa7hk



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Converting Computer to Amateur Bands?
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:53:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4lbft8$[e-mail]>
References: <4l6pqo$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Charles M. Clark) wrote:

>I have received an inquiry from an amateur friend in the UK requesting
>information about a "slot" which when installed into a computer allows
>the computer to act as an amateur transceiver.

Wow! What a remarkable invention..I wonder where you plug in the
microphone, or better yet the key?

All kidding aside, I think what you are referring to is a TNC that can
be operated from a bus slot on the computer. If this is what you are
talking about, I'll try to find the name of the company or companies
that manufacture them.

Bob, KG7WC






From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:16 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Converting Computer to Amateur Bands?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4l6pqo$[e-mail]> <4lbft8$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 06:26:48 GMT

In article <4lbft8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bob Raymo
nd) writes:
>[e-mail] (Charles M. Clark) wrote:
>
>>I have received an inquiry from an amateur friend in the UK requesting
>>information about a "slot" which when installed into a computer allows
>>the computer to act as an amateur transceiver.
>
>Wow! What a remarkable invention..I wonder where you plug in the
>microphone, or better yet the key?
>
>All kidding aside, I think what you are referring to is a TNC that can
>be operated from a bus slot on the computer. If this is what you are
>talking about, I'll try to find the name of the company or companies
>that manufacture them.

I believe he is asking about the DSP 100 from Comer Communications.
It occupies 2 ISA slots and is a complete HF transceiver with DSP
mod/demod. The mic and speaker jacks are on the back of the DSP card.
I don't know if it has a key jack or not. It is $695. Comer's
address is

Comer Communications
609 Washingtonia Dr.
San Marcos, CA 92069

Gary
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:18 1996
From: Jim Reid <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CW and Steam Locomotives
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:47:07 -1000
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

CW, as does a steam locomotive,  has a built in romance that will not
die.  Tho of no more use commercially or economically in the US,
steam locomotives are still in use,  and valuably so, in much
of Asia and parts of Europe and Africa, of which  that I am aware.
Here in the US,  only hobbyists and  are left
to keep many steam locomotives alive and operating all about
the country,  and are very popular tourist attractions.
CW is destined for the same fate.  And,  as with steam engines,
should you want to operate a train in certain parts of the world,
you had better know how to operate a steam engine and know
quite a bit about its' mechanics!  So there will exist a need for
CW knowledge for some time to come,  as these same parts of the
world where steam engines are still very viable,  are the same
parts of the world where CW is still very popular to those
countries' amateur radio community. See for example the article about
those who have worked 100 or more countres since Nov. 15, 1995,
the 50th anniversay of the current DXCC program;  the great
majority were via CW!  CQ mag, April 1996, pg. 86 at the bottm;
text' also lists many of these same sorts of countries that were
worked via CW,  seveal in the most sought after catagorey,  so the
author concludes,  get on CW, and in particular upgrade to Extra
since it is in the Extra CW segments of the bands in which these
DX stations were operated!  Of course,  your interests in amateur
radio must include DX chasing for these points, in your case,
to be meaningful.

Aloha and 73,  Jim,  AH6NB

It was for exactly these reasons that the last IARU ad hoc
committee appointed to look into the CW req for operating in
the HF region concluded that CW was still,  and probably should
remain a licensing requirement "to promote international
communications and understanding."  And don't be too
surprised if this same conclusion is reached during the investigation
and study of this issue over the next 2 1/2 years leading to
WRC-99,  and the reconsidering of the CW requirement need into
the future.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:19 1996
From: Mike James <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is the BEST
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 17:17:13 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4imsuh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l64o9$[e-mail]>

Why perpetuate this stuff?  Why further tarnish the image of ham radio
with this constant bickering about code/no code?  I've seen both sides
point to "young people aren't interested in ham radio these days --
they instead are drawn to the Internet."  Well, what are we doing to
encourage those same young folks who just might be looking at these
news groups for info about our hobby?

Mike James
KE0CH


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:20 1996
From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is the BEST
Date: 21 Apr 1996 00:56:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4lc13l$[e-mail]>
References: <4imsuh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Buddy Sohl)
writes:
>
>On 19 Mar 1996 18:04:01 GMT, [e-mail] (Wayne
>Green) wrote:
>
>>I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver
no-code
>>extras think about code.  The CW bands are a world of well mannered
>>people.   It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know
>>code to be there).  It is a wonderful world which many of you
complaining
>>wont ever know.  Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE!
>
>
>Good point Wayne, not to mention that we can squeeze a whole lot more
>signa into the same amount of spectrum.
>
>73 de KC4WQ


Since you can squeeze so many more QSOs into the same amount of
spectrum with CW and the number of QSOs in the CW segments is so much
less the only logical course of action is to redistribute the bands
giving say 80% to phone SSTV data etc. The much more efficient CW can
easily get along or the remainder, heck the can even share with RTTY.
You can rest assured that it will happen it is obvious from the most
cursory scan of the bands that this should happen and happen soon.

                    73 de Jerry


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:21 1996
From: Russ Roslewski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is the BEST
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:37:33 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4imsuh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l64o9$[e-mail]>

Bill Sohl wrote:
>
> But there are only two CW exclusive bands that I am aware
> of and no-code techs have full access to both of them without
> having taken any CW entrance exam.
>
> Those bands are:  50.0-50.1   and 144.0-144.1.
>
> Every other band that includes CW as an allowed
> mode does so on a shared basis with one or more
> other modes.
>
> Bill Sohl  K2UNK
> ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ

Of course, you could argue that there are almost NO exclusive bands for any
mode, since with a few exceptions, the band plans are determined by the ARRL
and not the FCC (or the equivalent in other nations).  Thus, they are more of
a "gentleman's agreement" than anything else.  No, this doesn't mean I
advocate working FM on 144.05 or SSB on 3600, just throwing the fact out
there.
73,
Russ  KI7FL
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Different(ial) RFI Problem: partial solution
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4kpd74$q2o$[e-mail]> <4kquoh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:35:05 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pete Soper) writes:
>[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>
>>Sounds like a parasitic oscillation in the stereo audio PA. Try putting
>>a resistor across the coil (start with 1k and work down) and see if that
>>stops the distortion.
>
>Thanks for the feedback, Gary (no pun intended).
>
>Jack, WB3U pointed out that I had a lot more inductance than I thought.
>My Autek RF-1 said one thing, the Amidon "AL" value for the toroid I
>used said quite another. After more careful listening it turned out I
>was clipping highs out of the audio and there was still some distortion,
>even with the 5 turns on the cores. Jack speculates the distortion
>might be core saturation.

Yeah, I think he may have hit it on the head. Frankly, I was misled
by your comment that the audio sounded "harsh". I don't equate that
with high frequency rolloff, which I'd generally say sounded "muffled",
but core saturation could definitely give you that effect by generating
step harmonics.

>So this is all bad news, as it means the three pole filter isn't going
>to do the job for eliminating the RFI on 40 meters and in fact might
>not cure it on the higher bands if I adjust the cutoff to not mess up
>the audio.
>
>My strategy now is this: air core coils, 4 poles or more, find something
>that works very well with one channel, then consider ferrite with a lower
>permeability if the size of the coils is an issue. I may have to filter
>all five channels (surround sound system) and the minibox I chose looks
>like it might get very dense now! Oh, and trust the Amidon charts, not
>my Autek for inductance values (darn!). If I get distortion with air
>cores I'll try your resistor mod.

That's just a trick to dampen parasitic oscillations. If that isn't
what's happening, then it won't help. But I'd be concerned about
your minibox. It may allow a path for the RF to *bypass* your
filtering. Think about that a bit. Capacitance to and from the
box with respect to wires entering and leaving it may be bypassing
your chokes. I'd mount them out in the open, with the inductors
well separated to avoid mutual coupling.

>One additional question I raised with Jack: If this really is a differential
>mode RFI problem, is the stereo receiver's AC line likely to be providing
>a return path, and if so, should I try aggressively filtering it?
>I could put some very serious filtering in place on the AC feed before
>my violin strings sounded like power tools :-)

I'm still somewhat puzzled how you could have differential currents
on your speaker leads. Aren't they tightly paired? And didn't you
say that you still had the problem with the speaker wires disconnected
and using headphones (or was that someone else)? If you do have differential
currents, then by definition they are differential with respect to *each
other* and not to some third wire.  However, I would certainly try a
common mode choke on the AC cord. It can't hurt.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Different(ial) RFI Problem: partial solution
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 07:08:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4l7lpb$[e-mail]>
References: <4l5n93$[e-mail]> <4l6gi5$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (W8JI  Tom) wrote:

>Be careful here fella's. Core saturation would NOT produce noticable
>distortion. Forget about that.

Tom, the nonlinear attenuation created by a core driven into
saturation will cause plainly audible distortion. I've heard it many
times in the course of attempting to match poorly specified crossover
networks to high power drivers.  It's a well-known phenomenon.

>Since the inductance of the cores should be negligible at audio
>frequencies, and distortion caused by core saturation would also be
>negligible. The effect will be only that of adding a non-linear
>inductance in series with the audio path, of an inductance value that
>has no affect on the audio frequency signals anyway.

In the example cited, 9 or 10 turns were wound through a FT-50A-75
toroid.  From calculations, the inductance of this coil is
approximately 300 uH.  Not only is this value not negligible, it's
suitable for a 6 dB/octave upper midrange crossover at 4500 Hz.  Based
on the size of this particular core, I would expect it to create
noticeable distortion at even moderate power levels.

Incidentally, I question the negligible effect of core saturation even
when (in your words) "the inductance value has no effect on the audio
frequency signals".  The level of audio harmonics created by
saturation of an RF inductor may indeed seem insignificant when
compared to the level of audio current passing through the coil.
However, relative to the level of harmonics created by the amplifier
(which may be well below 0.05%), those created in the saturated coil
might not be so small.

>Core saturation is a moot point unless the design impedance or
>application of the inductors is far from correct, so an air core coil
>of the same impedance will produce the same results.

The application of the inductor *was* far from correct.  These
were the wrong cores for the job at hand, and in addition, too many
turns were used.  If for some reason these cores were the only choice,
only 2 or 3 turns (maximum) would be required.  That doesn't provide
much control over the resultant inductance, which is one more reason
a core using 43 or 61 material (or air) would be more appropriate.

>Look for instability in the amp caused by the load change, and lower
>the values of those .1 caps.

What load change?  Not the nonlinear inductance?  If that causes
instability in a solid-state audio amp, the amplifier is defective.
Impedance VS frequency changes in the drivers themselves are *huge*,
not to mention the impedance fluctuations introduced by the typical
crossover network.

The shunt capacitors of 0.1 uF are also unlikely to cause instability
unless something is amiss in the amplifier.  Whatever the effect of
these caps, it will not be nearly as significant as the much larger
capacitors typically used in series with the midrange and tweeter.

Again, what Pete experienced was almost certainly the result of
saturation of the toroidal cores. The solution will be the use of a
core material (and shape) more specifically suited to RF applications
and less prone to saturation.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:26 1996
From: Don Wilhelm <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Different(ial) RFI Problem: partial solution
Date: 19 Apr 1996 23:46:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4l98kv$[e-mail]>
References: <4kpd74$q2o$[e-mail]> <4kquoh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l5n93$[e-mail]>

Pete (and others),
I don't know where I heard it, and I won't vouch for it as truth, but I believ
e
that many audio amplifiers are VERY sensitive about a capacitive load.
Therefore, you audio distortion may be the result of the caps across the
speaker leads.  You might try just running about 10 turns of the speaker leads
through a toroid core.  I know this will only cure the common mode pick-up, bu
t
unless you are certain you are dealing with differential mode stuff, it is wor
th
a try.

73,
Don W3FPR





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the internet have anything to do with Amateur Radio???????
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 07:59:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4l28gv$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4kakto$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l1b9l$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Bob Duckworth) wrote:

>I once was employed by an oil exploration firm working in the
>South Pacific. A Scot engineer on the crew, when asked what the matter was,
>would almost invariably reply, "THE F*CKING F*CKERS F*CKED !"

Ha ha!  That reminds me of another, similarly endearing chap I once met
in Scotland.  He was a Frenchman but held a GM3*** callsign.  At a
meeting of our local radio club, when asked why the CW note on his
transmitter sounded a little chirpy, he replied in a strong French
accent with gesticulations to match, "Eet eez com-plettly
BUGGERRRRRRRRED!!!"
An excellent diagnosis of the problem, I thought at the time!

(Hi Pierre, if you're out there ....)

:-))

73 de G3NYY

--
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                                    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (anonymous)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 08:22:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4kt108$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, Michael J Wooding <vhf-comm@g
6iqm.demon.co.uk> says:
>
>In article <4klh8a$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes
>>You know my name is David so stop all this rubbish about how big you are
>>just because you have your name and address on the page and in future keep
>>remarks like that
>>to yourself.
>
>I beg to differ that I did not know your name was David.  The message I
>responded to was from *anonymous*.  As for all this talk about how big I
>am, I was just responding to your comments about me never being an
>editor.
>
>As for keeping such remarks to myself - go bury your head.
>
>Mike
>

Mike,

It sometimes comes out as anonymous because you hane to enter your name twice
and sometimes
I forget to do so.

Go and read my reply to David Husband's posting called 'Does the test involve
any practical work'
and if you still can't see my point of view then you can go and bury YOUR head
 - and keep it there.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tech Support -- Camille Klein)
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: 20 Apr 1996 11:22:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4lahcu$[e-mail]>
References: <4l9p49$[e-mail]>


Before I say this, I want to make it very clear that I am not flaming, and tha
t
I have a lot of respect for the cojones that the SKYWARN people have.

Speaking as a former resident of tornado alley (the Great Plains), all I can
say is that this chap was pretty damn lucky that he is still alive.  Tornadoes
are unpredictable beasts, and this/these could have turned and headed in his
general direction at any moment.  Two days before I moved down here to Raleigh
,
I had the opportunity to watch a tornado from atop the KARE-11 TV building in
Minneapolis, MN.  The tornado touched down 10 miles away in the suburb of Appl
e
Valley, but the second the funnel lifted from the earth and started in our
general direction, the cameras were left on and everyone on the roof
beat a hasty retreat back inside to operate everything by remote.
It was a very frightening experience, and one I do not care to repeat.

Again, I respect the hell out of the SKYWARN people, but I just want to make
it very clear that at the same time the tornado veteran in me is rather aghast
at the tremendous personal jeopardy that this person seemingly unnecessarily
placed himself in.

--Camille.

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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tech Support -- Camille Klein)
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: 22 Apr 1996 16:40:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4lgcpg$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4ldt11$[e-mail]>

Quoth the raven [e-mail] on Sun, 21 Apr 1996 17:55:07 GMT:

: Hey, as we say to our Yankee friends who think we are all just a bunch
: of stupid rednecks....Delta can have yo butt back in Minnesota in
: about 2.5 hours.

If I'd said that everyone down here was a bunch of stupid rednecks, then you'd
have a point--besides, I prefer Continental. :)

--Camille, who does know som very intelligent rednecks. :) :) :) :)

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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:31 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 17:55:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4ldt11$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Tech Support -- Camille Klein <[e-mail]> wrote:


>--Camille, loving the Triangle but at the same time missing Minnesota.

Hey, as we say to our Yankee friends who think we are all just a bunch
of stupid rednecks....Delta can have yo butt back in Minnesota in
about 2.5 hours.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:32 1996
From: Ted F <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:42:19 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4l9p49$[e-mail]>

I know this is not quite on the subject, but...  I was wondering if anyone kne
w if there
was a SKYWARN net in the pittsburgh area.  I know we don't really get tornados
 or
anything like that too often, but we do get some beastie storms rippen through
 here in
the spring and fall.  Any help would be great!  Thanks
Ted F.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (James Warren Price)
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: 22 Apr 1996 20:16:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4lgpfh$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lgakj$[e-mail]>

Bob Goudreau ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Tech Support -- Camille Klein ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : This is very true.  But then, part of the reason why I am not completely
: : freaking out about this gentleman's actions is the fact that tornadoes are
: : very rare beasts down here in the Carolinas--therefore it is natural to
: : expect a certain level of naivete when tornadoes happen here, ...
:
: Tornadoes are "very rare beasts" here?  Since when?

Relatively speaking, yes.  One bit of supporting evidence is how y'all
respond to them.  It also snows here, too, but the public still doesn't know
how to deal with snow, either.

I agree -- Skywarn hams need to learn to respect tornados a little more and
know when it's prudent to take cover.

Jim N3QYE, [e-mail], Raleigh (formerly of KS, IN and WI)


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (KB5ELV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Field Day near Colorado Springs?
Date: 17 Apr 1996 07:16:36 -0500
Message-ID: <4l2nf4$[e-mail]>
References: <4kvcak$[e-mail]> <4l0u6c$[e-mail]>


Hey, y'all,

So actually, when *is* Field Day? Someone told me that it was 22-23 June;
I would've thought 29-30 June as it's the last weekend. Anyone really in
the know on this one?
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:34 1996
From: Cliff Patten <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: First & Last visit to your newsgroup.
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 01:19:57 +0100
Distribution: uk
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>


I must admit that after much searching through 1500 plus newsgroups, I
was quite looking forward to reading the contents of one aimed at UK
amateurs.

Wrong.

Sorry guys, but if this an example of "Friendly, helpful amateur radio
on the Net" I think I will pass on this in future - It reminds me more
of certain 2 metre repeaters! <:-)


--
Cliff Patten
G0 GDW


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:36 1996
From: Cliff Patten <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: First & Last visit to your newsgroup.
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:22:57 +0100
Distribution: uk
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Chris Hinkle
<[e-mail]> writes
>Cliff Patten ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: I must admit that after much searching through 1500 plus newsgroups, I
>: was quite looking forward to reading the contents of one aimed at UK
>: amateurs.
>
>: Wrong.
>
>: Sorry guys, but if this an example of "Friendly, helpful amateur radio
>: on the Net" I think I will pass on this in future - It reminds me more
>: of certain 2 metre repeaters! <:-)
>
>
>: --
>: Cliff Patten
>: G0 GDW
>
>
>Great, don't let the door hit ya in the ass.
>
>N7UJU, Chris in Gilbert, AZ
>
Ha - I was walking backwards, dogbreath !

(Round here we call them bottoms - mind your language)


--
Cliff Patten


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:37 1996
From: Cliff Patten <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: First & Last visit to your newsgroup.
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:08:37 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4l2m4m$[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Jacques Hankin
<[e-mail]> writes
>[e-mail] (Michael Gathergood) wrote:
>
>>If you want to just sit back and read what everybody else posts,
>>you are at liberty to do so, but it's no good complaining when
>>you don't like what you see.
>
>I agree. What is it with some folks who lurk for a bit and then go off
>in a high dudgeon leaving a resounding raspberry?
>It seems to happen on a number of newsgroups.

1) I only pretended to go off
2) I save all my raspberries for bathtime
3) I only lurk around public toilets
>
>I wonder if it is because they have read the hype about the
>"superhighway" (barf), and struggle to get on it using Demon's
>impossible free software, and then find it does not live up to their
>(misplaced) expectations?
>
FREE ha ha ha ............

>Like all things, (including amateur radio) the more you put in, the
>more you get out.
>
>>Have you tried asking Demon for your ten quid to be refunded?
>
>OoooooH! Nasty! :-)

I'm Glad he didn't mean it Jacques
>
>Jacques
>
>Remember when sex was safe...
>and rock climbing was dangerous?
>
Us G Nothings don't have to rely on memories!

--
Cliff Patten


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:38 1996
From: Ben Hastings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: First Radio
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:02:49 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi All.
        I just got my tech license and am eagar to buy my first 2-meter
Ham radio.  I am considering the Alinco DJ-G1T 2-meter/440 recieve H-T.
Could you please E-mail me about the good/bad points of this radio, if
you think it is a good deal(for about $250) and anything else, especialy
mods.

                        Thanks in advance,
                        KC8DBW
--


                        Ben Hastings
                        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (ken.thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: fm/am recent radio recordings from Soutrhern USA wtb
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:06:26
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4l2k9s$[e-mail]>

In article <4l2k9s$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (cyberi
aeal12) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (cyberiaeal12)
>Subject: fm/am recent radio recordings from Soutrhern USA wtb
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 16:24:45 GMT


>fm/am recent radio recordings from Southern USA wtb
>          Id like to buy recent talk show public phone in radio tapes max 90
>mins per taep can offer trade with same from
>london or c$10 per tape.am very interested can supply free tapes
>try one to start?
> E mail address [e-mail].(Bruce Sneddon)

You will not learn about capitalization, spelling or punctuation from tapes.







From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:40 1996
From: Garrie Jantzen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: future of the hobby/code/etc.
Date: 18 Apr 1996 17:45:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4l5v39$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

I agree with everything you've said so far. I believe (absolutely no
facts to substantiate this--just anecdotal evidence) the hobby is in
trouble. Have you paid attention to what's happening in D.C.? They're
auctioning off frequencies. Companies are willing to pay BIG buck for
these frequencies -- they're really in demand! If we don't do something
to "grow" the hobby, then we're going to lose either all or part of some
bands --for certain!
I'm a high school teacher (actually spend most of my time
"troubleshooting computer problems in the district) and most kids I meet
have no idea (as do most adults) what "Ham Radio" is (I get questions
asking just that when they see my ham license plate, club poster or
"Yaesu" sticker on my computer). On the other hand ALL of my students
know what the Internet is and they are *almost* all interested in getting
on it. BTW I've had the club poster displayed for almost three years.
Want to guess how many inquiries I've had from this (admittedly passive)
"recruiting device"? None. Our club also has a scholarship for licensed
hams. In a school of 1300 students -- one applicant in the last three
years (the only other ham besides myself!).

Some time ago in QSL magazine some "wag" made the observation that you
could hand out free Extra Class licenses at any football stadium (or
similar public place -- eg. shopping mall) and 99 of 100 people would
ask, "what's this for". The other person who knows what it actually is
probably wouldn't be interested. Sorry to sound so negative, but I really
feel this is reality today.

The code used to be a "rite-of-passage" to keep the unwashed hordes away.
Guess what folks? The heathens have packed up and gone home -- they're no
longer beating down the gates!

Should we still have entry requirements for different levels? YES! Here's
an opportunity to take the existing exams and make them tougher! Put in
some real life role-playing situations like, "What would you do if...?
Make the exams more pertinant to real, everyday operating situations.
BTW, memorizing band frequencies is something that most of us do without
thinking as we work them--or refer to a poster on the wall!

To those who think I'm trying to "dumb-down" or "dilute" the hobby, I
say, once again, make the practical and theoretical part of the exams
tougher! Code is not the ONLY method of keeping those hordes at bay!



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Steven B. Bryant)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: HELP:  Grounding Question?
Date: 17 Apr 1996 17:33:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4l3a0m$[e-mail]>


Hello-

I am wondering why I need to ground my radio and power supply using a
separate ground wire instead of using the the ground normally provided by
a 3-plug AC connector?  Wouldn't a separate ground create a ground
referencing problem?  I'm looking to understand what I need to do when I
purchase my Power Supply this week and install my system over the weekend.

I will be using an IC 730 with the IC-PS15 Power Supply.  Any help you
can provide will be greatly appreciated.

-Steve B. N6EQY


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:43 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: HELP:  Grounding Question?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4l3a0m$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:09:20 GMT

In article <4l3a0m$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steven B. Bryant) writes
:
>
>I am wondering why I need to ground my radio and power supply using a
>separate ground wire instead of using the the ground normally provided by
>a 3-plug AC connector?  Wouldn't a separate ground create a ground
>referencing problem?  I'm looking to understand what I need to do when I
>purchase my Power Supply this week and install my system over the weekend.
>
>I will be using an IC 730 with the IC-PS15 Power Supply.  Any help you
>can provide will be greatly appreciated.

The power supply will have a third wire safety ground, but the radio
still will not. So you'll want to also give it a chassis ground
connection. It has a lug for that purpose. You could tie that to the
third wire connection of the outlet you use for the power supply.
That would give you ordinary electrical shock hazard protection.
(The DC negative lead won't serve because it isn't directly
connected to chassis either in the power supply or the radio.)

The problem is that the house electrical third wire ground won't
do much for you as lightning protection. The ground path is too
long, and has far too much inductance. You're also right to be
concerned about ground loops. They can be damaging.

The answer to both problems is to create an entrance panel that
serves as a shack ground window. This is a copper plate to which
*every* wire that enters or leaves your station is connected *before*
going on to connect to equipment in the station. The wires should
be either directly connected to the plate in the case of "grounds",
or via appropriate suppressors if the wire is nominally "hot". This
means coax, power wiring, telco wiring, etc.  This plate becomes
your station "single point" and shorts any potential ground loops
entering your station.

This ground window is then connected as directly as possible,
using as low an inductance wiring method as possible (5 inch
wide smooth solid copper strap preferred, don't use braid), to a
*good* Earth ground connection. A single ground rod is generally
*not* a good Earth ground connection. I recomend a minimum of
4 rods, with a central rod surrounded by the other 3 arranged
around and connected to the central rod in star fashion. The rods
should be separated by at least twice the length of a single rod
from each other to avoid the charge saturation zones overlapping.

This is often a sufficient Earth connection where the water table
is high. In other areas where soil conductivity is poor, I'd add a
Ufer ground (rebar in concrete) at least 20 feet on a side, and/or
a bunch of buried radials to form a capacitive "plate" to couple
energy to Earth. Dirt is a pretty poor conductor, with most currents
conducted soil grain to soil grain by arcing across the grain boundaries.
So surge currents are most effectively conducted to Earth via capacitance,
with the Earth forming one plate of the capacitor.

This system will give you an effective lightning safety ground,
and incidentally it may also serve as a RF ground should you
need one, providing the connection between the ground window
and Earth is (very) short compared to a quarterwave at the highest
frequency you'll be operating. Note, you usually will *not* need
a RF ground unless you're trying to feed a long wire or other
grossly unbalanced type of antenna. Verticals should be worked
against a ground *at their base* and not a ground back at the
station. Dipoles and other balanced antennas don't require a
RF ground connection.

You'll have to be the judge of how much grounding you want to
do. I wouldn't sleep easy in thunderstorm country with a lesser
system than the one I've described. If you aren't willing to
put in an effective system, you might be better just letting
the station "float" with respect to Earth and religiously
disconnect (and separate) antenna downleads from your equipment
when you aren't operating. Note that word "separate", lightning
that has just traveled miles through open air isn't going to
be deterred by a few inches of separation. Give it a better
choice of path than jumping to your equipment, or you.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: HELP:  Grounding Question?
Date: 20 Apr 1996 02:33:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4l9idq$[e-mail]>
References: <4l3a0m$[e-mail]>

Steven B. Bryant ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Hello-

: I am wondering why I need to ground my radio and power supply using a
: separate ground wire instead of using the the ground normally provided by
: a 3-plug AC connector?  Wouldn't a separate ground create a ground
: referencing problem?  I'm looking to understand what I need to do when I
: purchase my Power Supply this week and install my system over the weekend.

: I will be using an IC 730 with the IC-PS15 Power Supply.  Any help you
: can provide will be greatly appreciated.

: -Steve B. N6EQY

Steve,
    You don't NEED to ground things with a separate ground. Sometimes
you can get away with the AC ground. Separate grounds for the radio
gear are helpful when you start experiencing RFI problems. I have run
plenty of stations without one - including the current one which is
1500 watts. It just depends on the location how things work out.

73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:46 1996
From: Jesse Royall <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I don't recomend Amateur Radio
Date: 20 Apr 1996 13:51:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4laq53$[e-mail]>

  You know, I have had my license for over a year now.  I have used
2 Meters, 70cm ( which is enjoyable ), and 6 Meters ( which has its ups
and downs ).  I used to have fun with it... Talk halfway across Texas with
50 watts and a 5/8 wave antenna on the mobile, making FM contacts all over
the place. It was a challenge and a hobby back then. Now, since I have
moved to Dallas, its no longer a Hobby, it has become torture.  When
someone asks what kinda antenna I got on my Truck I tell them and then
they ask what it is like. And I tell them the Truth.  Here in Dallas it
has become the CB of the 90s.  I know we are suppose to police ourselves
but, one person can't do it by himself.  The locals around here just say
ignore the Problem and it will go away. Well, I have been here 6 months
and we have gone from 1-2 people Overpowering/ Bad mouthing/ Dead keying/
ect to now a group of people.... well, Ignoring the prob has really helped
down here in Dallas.... In Fact, it has put people on the edge where there
are no longer anymore chats about this, that, and the other. they just snap
at each other....  These people they ask me about amateur radio I just tell
them it is cheaper just to buy a CB. Atleast there you can buy a radio for
$20 and be on the air.... where as 2 Meter it is $200 for a 50 watt radio
or a HT and still get all the language... you havn't helped yourself one
bit...just in debt....  Now I have thought about HF, and I have talked to
friends that are on HF, and they say at times its just like CB and 2 Meters
you have the same people down there....(No use trying to get away...)
Would have been nice if you had to have a license in order to buy Amateur
Radio Equipment to knock out alot of this non-sense... I know what you are
thinking.... Yes, we do have those amateurs that do the same.  I have tried
different bands 70cm (where I hang out till I get kicked off the repeater)
at which most are closed now days or linked. It has proven to be a great
little band at times... I still get out and do alittle chatting over long
distances (Not as far though). and I have gone to 6 Meters but we all know
that band here today gone in a minute..hehe..
The only place where I can have anytype of chat with polite people is on
2 meter SSB..(No probs down there) That is only because a All mode is about
$900 to $3000 and no-one is going to spend that kinda money for a radio
just to harass people (well that is what I thought when I got in Amateur
Radio....)
Now, I know that the prob isn't in Dallas only.... But, what can we do??
Would like to hear what other people are doing and what bands to try. Its
to the point that it is no longer a Hobby or fun...

Well, I know that this message is alittle long and alittle whiney but, when
you have bad weather and a Races Net going its no laughing matter....
We had this prob last night and had alot of damage from high winds and
these problem childs decided it was time to play.. So I do appologize for
the dumping of a message and such.... BUT, I WILL NOT RECOMMEND AMATEUR
RADIO to anyone that asks me....



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (RIlowite)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ICOM 28a?
Date: 20 Apr 1996 00:07:53 -0400
Message-ID: <4l9nup$[e-mail]>
References: <4l07hr$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (RIlowite)

I have such a unit, and have had it for several years. It has been quite
reliable and is still working away as my packet xcvr.  What do you need.
I still have the manual ,if you need a copy let  me know.

                                                 RIlowite@ AOL.COM (W2GKG)














From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Icom 765 mods
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:37:24 -0100

Jim Kehler ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Which brings up a good question, something I have wondered about for
: years. Why is it that we 'hams', most of us being employed in fields
: other than electronics design, and few of us being capable of building
: our own equipment, think that the first thing we should do with a new
: $2000.00 radio that was designed and manufactured by professionals, is
: to open the cover and MODIFY it so that it works better ?

Because hams tend to be "tinkerers", and in fact the idea of
experimentation is intrinsic to the idea of the Amateur Radio Service.

The good folks at Icom, Kenwood, Ten-Tec, Yaesu (or insert your
favorite brand) certainly do employ "professionals", but they also
design to a mass market and a competitive price point. In that effort
they make certain design decisions (which are right from their end)
but which I may decide do not meet my specific desires.

NM3P, in another post, suggests that most of the requests for
modification may be from what I'll loosely call "rascals" without
honorable intent. There may be some of that, and I suppose when I
modified my first 1949 Ford for "better takeoff" I probably was a
bit of a "rascal", but I learned a lot about V8 engines in the
process!

Personally, I am delighted when I find someone willing to "look
under the hood" of their new radio, because it suggests one less
member of the QCAO (Quarter Century Appliance Operators) club!

73, de Hans, K0HB




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ted Culin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Impending HDTV....
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 19:07:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4l3fht$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (ML., Michigan, USA) wrote:

>Does anyone know if a newsgroup exist where HDTV issues are discussed?

>     If not, I figured our amateur radio newsgroup would be the best place to

>post a technical question about the impending HDTV broadcasting
>changeover...So here it goes....

>    The projected cost figures of the HDTVs are extremely high compared to
>current TVs.   I suspect the majority of american families will be unable to
>come up money for the HDTVs.

>     Since HDTV transmissions will be incompatible with the current NTSC
>transmissions, is it possible and likely that TV accessory manufacturers will

>come up with an economical convertor box to convert HDTV transmissions into
>NTSC signals, so that HDTV broadcasts can be viewd by regular NTSC TVs?

>     Your comments on the topic are appreciated.  Please email your response
>to [e-mail].   Thank-you

>73, KB8VBA

>

If you havn't seen a HDTV demonstration go check one out the picture
is amazing.  I watched a demo at the local art muesum, one Japaneese
short showed someone cooking in the kitchen.  You could see very fine
detail on the hamburger and other items without really trying, you
could see the small droplets of greese flying off the frying pan.  I'd
say it was easily as good if not better than any fine grained 35 mil
photo i've seen.

There is a HDTV newletter available on the WWW.  Try www.web-star.com
some stuff is there as well as a full subscription.  I don't have any
interest in the company, but the data is there.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Kolb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V96 #368
Date: 19 Apr 1996 22:24:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4l93q9$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Dave Yanke ([e-mail]) wrote:

: > Three is such a ticket as the "Codeless" General. It is really classified
as a
: > "Conditional" ticket. The VE is required to accept the FCC 610 Form when

: Unfortunatly, the message above is inccorect. There is not now, nor
: has there ever been a conditional ticket. You must pass the five.

Not to nit-pick, but my first ham license was a conditional class license.
A conditional was the regular general class test, written and CW,
administered by another amateur, permitted when the licensee was
more thay 75 miles away from the nearest FCC testing location.
(Back before the VE system)  This was in 1963, in Yokosuka Japan,
clearly more than 75 miles away from the FCC.

John Kolb  KK6IL  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Invader on 80 CW - 5 letter groups
Date: 17 Apr 1996 18:59:09 -0400
Message-ID: <4l3t3t$[e-mail]>
References: <4l2k88$[e-mail]>

Bill Meara ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I was tuning through the 80 meter band this morning  (17 April 1996,
: 1015  UTC)  and I came across a very strong CW signal at around 3.925
: Mhz.
<snip>

  The band 3500-4000 KHz is amateur in the western hemisphere, but in
most of the world only small parts are allocated for amateur use.
I haven't any facilities to check just what the various allocations
are, but the Deutsche Welle and BBC broadcasts on 3995 amd 3955 KHz
are authorized by the radio treaties.  Likewise the non-amateur
operations in 7100-7300 KHz are in accord with international agreements
and are not intruders.

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Levendusky Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Logging Software Help
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 21:30:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4le5ua$[e-mail]>

I'm looking for a logging program for an IBM compatable. The features
I'm interested in are packet cluster, radio control, awards traking,
contest logging. Let me know what everyones experience is with these
kinds of programs and what you like the best. Thanks.

73 Tom N0MWY



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian [e-mail])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Elmer in Oz
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 18:16:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4ldu46$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Houston Dunleavy) wrote:

>I'm a neophyte ham living in the Wollongong area looking for advice/support
>in getting licensed in Australia and setting up a cheap QRP rig.

>Thanks in advance for any info!

>-- Laura Goodin, N3TOJ
>3/49 Robsons Road
>Keiraville NSW 2500
>AUSTRALIA

>(using my husband's account!)

Maybe I'm not the one to ask, left Sydney almost 10
years ago, and lived in Northern suburbs at that.

But I do remember there was a ham club at Fishers
Ghost, I *think* there may have been one in W'gong
itself, and still another one in Hurstville.  Try giving
a shout on 2m (don't worry about going portable with
your US call - nothing will happen, guaranteed).
Phone the WIA office in Parramatta, they should
have a list of some of the club officers, or at least
data on when/where some of the clubs meet.

Uncle Brian  VK6BQN




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 16 Apr 96 14:11:36 EST
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In article <[e-mail]>, Dave Heil <[e-mail]> writes:
> Gary Coffman wrote:
>> You've got net access, just drop them Email for replacement copies,
>> worked for me. I'd prefer getting my copies pristine too (and most
>> of mine still come that way), but 130,000 wrappers a month isn't
>> pocket change (and wrapper prices recently increased sharply). Maybe
>> the ARRL should offer QST in baggies for an extra charge for those of
>> you having problems with your mail. I'd prefer to avoid another dues
>> increase myself.
>> Gary
>
> Many DON'T have net access nor the inclination to ask for new copies each
> month (or any one month for that matter).  Any organization which buys
> 130,000 of anything each month should be able to negotiate the best
> possible price.   Plastic bags at additional charge can be nixxed too
> since we received our magazines in wrappers for all of those years at no
> additional cost--it was built in to the dues structure.  It's not
> as if we'd be getting something extra, we're now NOT getting something we
> already had.
>
> I've found that Canadian members are now receiving their issues in
> plastic bags again due to complaints.  Foreign clubs are also receiving
> their copies in plastic bags.
> Dave OH2/K8MN

Yeah, just what we need. More plastic in landfills. How about PAPER wrappers?
What are you going to do with the cover anyway, frame it? Mine could arrive
without the cover, as long as the contents are there.

Hmmm... paper?... or plastic?...
I'll take mine without.

Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:55 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mail Mangled QST
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:20:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4l841p$[e-mail]>
References: <"10-Apr-96..8: 03:04".*[e-mail]> <4klneg$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l34hk$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Burch Akin) wrote:

snip


>I also have that problem.  I always get my QST 5-8 days after my
>friends do.


I used to get my magazines later than others also.  All magazines!  I
found out that old timer mail carriers didn't like to 'tote' the
weight that magazines afford and would leave them for the newer
substitutes that carry mail on their days off!  But, Carriers are
constrained in the number of pounds of mail thay have to tote so...
magazines might wait around a few days until someone finally gets
around to haul 'em.  I also found out once that I had a mail man that
took it upon himself to help me out and toss my QST's before I had a
chance to read them.  He doesn't work for the PO any more.

Have ur local PO track the mail and meybe you will find the cause.

GL//cdn







From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wayne Hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Mental Block?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:48:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4lgnkc$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l9csk$[e-mail]> <4lajbq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Brian Gohl) wrote:

<<bunch of whining snipped >>

>I wish that I was the one to buy the gear that started this thread, but my
>receivers will have to suffice......

Why?  You've already got your no-code route, so take it and
QUIT BITCHIN !!
D. Wayne Hoffman
ARS WB6WLR
Internet [e-mail]
Pac Bell [phone]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:57 1996
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.electronics.design
From: [e-mail] (Matt Roberts)
Subject: Mental Block? (was: Selling out of ham radio)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 96 17:38:38 GMT
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

> >     despite about 30 years experience in hardware and software, including
> > rf design, the code requirement kept me out of the hobby. i am currently
> > working at the 13 wpm test, so i can employ more efficient digital
>
> Good luck with the test.  An old friend of mine was similarly experienced
> in radio and enjoyed the hobby but found a mental block when it came to
> Morse code.

A lot of people on welfare today have a 'mental block' when it comes to workin
g, but as long
as we keep giving them what they want, they just keep taking it.  Seems the sa
me is holding
true for good ol' amateur radio.  Doesn't really matter though, since all I ha
ve to do these
days is shout 'hearing problem' and I get a code free...what?...Advanced or Ex
tra?  Why
work?

By the way, I wonder if that guy ever sold his gear...
----
Matt Roberts, KK5JY,
[e-mail]





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (James A)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola JT1000 info needed
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 03:08:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4lc8ri$[e-mail]>

Does anyone have any tips for field programming the JT1000? I have
been told that some of the "software" programmable features can be
performed via the keypad. I have the programming plug and am able to
program the basics(freq, squelch, dpl, etc), but would like to enable
additional features that the radio's are capable of. My dealer can do
this for me, but I am involved in search and rescue and don't want to
be without my units for an extended period.

If anyone can help, an e-mail would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

James Allan





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:53:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alfred J. Boetcher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need Help With RFI Problems
Date: 16 Apr 96 21:41:48 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Subject: 1. Need Help With RFI Problems

Mike Hatzakis writes:
>Have RFI problem from my Icom 735 radio and 20 meter dipole in attic.
>My and my neighbors Stereo equipment and her sound system on her computer
>are the biggest problems
>My stereo has signals that are loud.  I tried putting LC filters in the
>speaker leads, no dice, disconnected them and still have loud signals.  My
>theory is
>it is the line (110v).  When I raise the volume, the interference gets a bit
lower and
>audio comes in over the interference, but the interference does not increase
>in volume with the volume control with headphones only hooked up to stereo.
>My Computers sound system also has noise.
>My antenna is in the attic with many 110 v power wires. I also get
>interference to my computer sound system and the stereo itis hooked to.
>Could RFI be getting into my line ????  Can I put toroids into all the AC

>to my computer sound system and the stereo itis hooked to.
>Could RFI be getting into my line ????  Can I put toroids into all the AC
lines ???
>What are the typical cures for this ??? Is there a book on RFI, ie.,
like the
>Antenna book or handbook ???  Any other tests to try to diagnose the problem
???>Please help, I am really excited about having the time to get on HF now...

Hi Mike,
When faced with RFI I like to investigate One thing first. Is it antenna
radiation causing the problem or feed line radiation. First check the
VSWR of the antenna and make sure its below 1.5 to 1. A high VSWR causes
voltage and current hot spots on the line which can radiate.

If it is below 1.5 to 1, disconnect the feedline at the antenna and connect
it to a dummy load. Normally, the RFI will go away with this test. All
dummy loading the line does is make sure the line is OK. Remember, a low VSWR
at the TX does not insure a matched system. It just means current and voltage
are in phase at that point. In a matched system, the current and voltage
will be in-phase all along the line.

Next, I like to run all my balanced antennas with coax and 1:1 baluns at the
antenna. If the antenna is resonant and a balun is used, the feedline should
not be radiating. In this case the your only alternative is to move the
antenna farther away from the AC wiring or orienting it as close to 90
deg. off of any wiring in the same plane.

Its surprising how much RFI can be cured by dealing with feedline radiation.

73
Fred WU9R


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian [e-mail])
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.physics.electromag,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need to Calculate Inductance of Special Coil
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 18:10:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4ldtnj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Barry Megdal <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I need the find the equations to be used to calculate the inductance of
>a coil wound out of copper strap -- imagine a roll of electrical tape,
>where the tape was replaced by (insulated) copper strap of shape similar
>to the tape.  None of the reference books I have seen seem to cover this
>configuration.

>Any help is appreciated.   Please reply via email.

>Thanks.

>- Barry

Not too sure why you would need it's actual *calculated*
inductance, but rather than try the mathematical model,
I would first tie a fairly precise cap across it and find its
resonant frequency.  To be dead cert, do it again with
another (different) cap, record resonant freq again.

F = 1/(2 pi sqr(LC)).  A little algebra to extract L.

Uncle Brian VK6BQN




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: No Mods!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 16:05:19 -0100

Cleaning my hard drive, I found the following old gem, author
unknown, but suspected to be Danny, K7SS.
-------
WARNING:
WARNING:    Humor impaired individuals should skip to the next
WARNING:    message to avoid undue elevation of blood pressure.
WARNING:
-------
NOTICE:
NOTICE:     Those who oppose modification of factory built
NOTICE:     radios may find this organization of interest.
NOTICE:
- - - - - - - - - - -
    The Quarter Century Appliance Operators was founded in the early
1950's by a small group of Amateur Radio operators from the Pacific
Northwest.  They had been active in their hobby for over 25 years,
yet still lacked the basic knowledge of radio electronics and had
no idea of how their equipment worked.
    They banded together to try and protect each others honor and
pride.  At radio gatherings and club meetings in the 1950s one was
considered unworthy of the name Ham Radio Operator if he or she
couldn't not only name components, but know how to solder them
together and make a radio work!
    When faced with insults and derision, those few hardy pioneers
banded together and formed the First Chapter and National
Organization of the QCAO.  This was known as the "Cold Solder"
Chapter.
    They even coined the now-famous club byword
"e pluribus ignoramae" which is Latin for "We don't have to know
how to solder, we just wanna talk on our radios."
    No veterans of that first chapter are known to be active on
the air today.  In the late 1950s and early '60s, with the worldwide
interest in science and space and technology, the QCAO membership
went underground.
    It is with great pride and dignity that today in the 1990s
the revived QCAO stands ready to rise from the ashes, and become
the standard of mediocrity it once proudly was.  In honor of
those first pioneering members, QCAO hereby invites all eligible
applicants to step forward and join!
    The benefits of QCAO include not only the pride of membership.
Think of the warm glow you will feel at club meetings and gatherings
showing off your new all-plastic imprinted QCAO pocket protector!
And that's not all!  For your minimal membership fee, you will also
receive a handsome, suitable-for-framing, certificate of honor,
with hand-lettered name and Charter Membership Number.  Other
QCAO memorabilia will soon be available for members, including
T-shirts, caps, pins, etc.  At this date charter membership
numbers are still available.
    Membership requires a 25 years (more or less) interest in Amateur
Radio, coupled with a basic ignorance of how radios work and how to
repair them.
    Think of meeting other QCAO members on the air!  No more
embarrassing pauses when someone in the QSO mentions an RF choke
or a parasitic bleeder...Be able to exchange meaningful sharing,
talk about real things, yes, even swap QCAO numbers with each other!
And soon perhaps . . . a worldwide QCAO contest!
    You no longer have to shrink to the back of the room at
post-meeting sessions of your radio club.  Just display your
QCAO protector and others will be able to identify you immediately.
Who knows?  Perhaps one of the originals from that old QCAO Chapter
is just waiting for you to find him.  Join now!  Remember "We don't
have to know how to solder, we just wanna talk on our radios"!
    Don't let technoids embarrass you and kick jargon in your face.
Stand up for what's right!  Join QCAO!
    "e pluribus ignoramae"

73, de Hans, K0HB




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:04 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: not type accepted whats up
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:20:53 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kf7ah$[e-mail]> <4l4h0v$[e-mail]>

Michael McCarthy wrote:
> The cop has it reversed.  Much of the commercial HAM gear is NOT type
> accepted.  I think only commercial HF linear's require any sort of
> acceptance.  Home brew linears do not.

If you make enough of them, they do indeed need type acceptance.  I believe
you're allowed one every six months w/o type acceptance, IIRC.  Commercially
sold (not homebrew) VHF ham transcievers are actually usually type-accepted
for Part 15 use, which seems silly to me since I'm using it as part of a Part
97 station, but many do in fact carry a Part 15 type acceptance label.  The
same goes for many commercial VHF transcievers - both my Motorolas (commercial
)
as well as both my Kenwoods (ham) definitely are Part 15 type accepted,
according to the labels on the radios themselves when I purchased them.

>
> On the other hand, converting non type accepted HAM gear for use on
> commercial frequencies is NOT permitted...
>

Not exactly - the *conversion* is permitted, but actually *transmitting*
with such a radio isn't permitted as part of an FCC-licensed station.  Those
of us, like myself, who operate NTIA-licensed radio stations (in addition
to FCC-licensed ones) may use such a radio on public service or commercial
channels, under strict limits imposed by the FCC, the NTIA, and the MOU
between the NTIA license holder (the USAF, in my case) and the FCC license
holder (the police or fire department, for instance.)

73 de Will KB9JTT


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: OK..some advice!
From: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 22:24:00 CST

>I'm using the AP8A antenna. Buy the radial kit for it. It REALLY needs it to
>work properly. (It will assemble without it, but the lower section needs to
>about 2-3 feet short to tune up properly. And it will radiate like a rock
>with no radials.)
>73 es GM from jeff

Thanks for the above advice.....a shopping we will go....a shopping we will
go...73 KE4UGV


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:06 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: OK..some advice!
Date: 19 Apr 1996 04:10:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4l73nb$h85$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Each of us has an idea of "what bell or whistle I just have to
have", so you may get a lot of conflicting answers. I'll treat
the radio in a moment. Regarding antennas, a multiband vertical
is an excellent choice for your first antenna, given your
restricted space and preference for DX work. They tend to be
noiser on receive, especially in an urban setting with lots of
manmade noise.

Regarding radios, the most important consideration is receiver
performance. Look for low noise, immunity to overload from nearby
strong signals (sometimes called dynamic range), and a decent
complement of filters, especially if you contemplate "narrow"
modes like PacTOR, RTTY, AMTOR, or radiotelegraph.

Memories are a low importance feature in my book. All modern rigs
have some (16 is probably plenty) so don't spend a lot of money
to get 100, when you'll likely only use less than 10. Transmitter
audio processing can be very helpful and would be a plus.
On-board antenna tuners can be expensive, and if you have a good
antenna are not needed. If you find you need one, get an outboard
model.

Look for dual VFO's or other means of working "split". This is
pretty standard on most modern-era rigs, but bears mentioning if
working DX is part of your plans.

--
73, de Hans K0HB
--If you go flying back through time and you see somebody else
  flying forward into the future, it's probably best to avoid
  eye contact.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:07 1996
From: Bruce Willis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: P110 to GP300 ?
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:44:21 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

If you have or whant to trade info/programs to mod mot p110 or gp300
e-mail me.I have it.
 Bruce
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:08 1996
From: Patrick Cook <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Packet-Internet, & Internet-Packet Gateways
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 22:48:08 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Hey Jeff:

On 9 Apr 1996, Jeff wrote:

> I wouldn't recommend that ANY Ham interconnect Packet with the Internet!
> The two systems can be quite incompatible with respect to potential
> commercial
> traffic as well as the likelihood of frequently colorful language....
> If you want to get on packet, go packet.  If you want the 'Net, log-on.

Gee.  That sure is funny.  If this is the case, then why are there groups
of hams who are devoting - in some cases - ENTIRE STATIONS to the world of
TCP/IP?!?!?

If this is the case, then we *really* don't need the AMPRnet then.  Now
do we?!?!?

What you just said above Jeff is a TOTAL slap in the face to those who
are working HARD to make the AMPRnet a REALITY!!!!  I speak as someone
who has spent time on the AMPRnet, and have made some very interesting
contacts via the CONVERS bridge.

Somebody feel free to correct me if I'm mis-reading the above quoted message.

73's for now, my friends!

DE  KB0OXD
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:09 1996
From: Jim Brown <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: PK-232 For Sale
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:32:51 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

1 AEA PK 232 tnc with all but the latest updates ie: It has
the mailbox but not Pactor etc. Works fine. Asking $185. phone is
803-874-2834. Name Clarence Lowe.....More???


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:10 1996
From: [e-mail](Philip S. Schlesinger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: prospective ham needs help
Date: 22 Apr 1996 01:58:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4lep4a$[e-mail]>

A Sarasota, Florida adult needs help in finding club or ham group which
helps teach prospective hams the material needed to secure a license.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (robert bowman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT 202
Date: 21 Apr 1996 02:01:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4lc4tu$[e-mail]>
References: <4klrb9$[e-mail]> <4kng86$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gar
y Coffman) says:
>There are plenty of 2m mobile rigs very close to
>the price range for a good HT, and you'll be getting quite a lot
>more radio for the money.

the first 2m rig i purchased was a icom 281. i then bought a HT202 when
they were on sale, as a dedicated packet machine. while the Icom has
more memories, and a few other 'features', the '202 seems to have
greater sensitivity and a better sound. i find i use the HT more. if
i were doing it again, i'd go for the HT202 and a brick, if i really
needed more power. the Icom claims to be 9600 baud ready - now if i
can find someone around here doing 9600 baud packet.....


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Wiza)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio Shack- You've got broken stuff?  We cant fix it!
Date: 17 Apr 1996 09:58:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4l2fc0$[e-mail]>
References: <4j1egi$[e-mail]>

Blank stares?

I got suckered in by the radio shack repair center.  I was a Navy electronics
tech, I now am an electronics tech with Intel.  I have worked on
consumer electronics for YEARS, and "moonlighted" at an electronics repair
shop fixing all sorts of consumer electronics...cd players, stereo gear,
amps, tuners, tape decks, VCR's, TV's...AND CAMCORDERS.  I have 20 years
of repair experience, taught electronics for over four years...in other words,
I know which end of a scope probe to use.

I just moved to Oregon, and I dont have a place set up in my house to work
on things properly.  So when my Sony CCD-FX520 8mm camcorder crapped, out,
I opened it up for a quick look/see to see if I could fix it.  Since I dont
have access to  circuit diagrams for camcorders anymore, and I no longer have
access to factory parts like I used to, I took the camera to Radio Shack here
in Beaverton, Oregon.  I figured by the time I purchased the SAM's, paid for
the parts, it would cost me just as much to fix it.

The sales droid gave me an "estimate" of $119 for labor, and $39 for parts
(or therabouts, I dont recall exactly) and told me they would send it to
UTAH for repair, told me it would be back in about three weeks.

Welp, in two weeks and two days a card arrived in the mail telling me my
video camera was ready for pickup!  JOY!  HAPPINESS!

When I go to pick it up, they say, "SORRY, OUR TECHNICIANS WERE NOT ABLE TO
FIX IT."  The paper that came with it says this:

"BAD CHROMA BOARD, NOT ABLE TO FIX.  UNIT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN BUMPED."

What in the hell does that mean?  It means the tech does not know whats wrong,
has no hope of figuring it out, and is dropping a bogus hint that the camera
got trashed by physical damage.

Remember, I have worked on these before.  Also remember, I had it apart before
it was shipped.  No signs of damage anywhere.  The unit turns on without the
power being switched on, refuses to ff/rew/play/eject.  And the rat shack tech
thinks this is a CHROMA PROBLEM?  Sheesh...

Ill either buy the SAMS and fix it myself, take it to a local shop, or send
it to Sony.  Last time I take anything to rat shack for repair.  Seems like
their techs are as knowledgable as most of their salesmen...



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Abraham Stavsky)
Subject: Repeater list for VE3?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 14:55:20 GMT


Anyone have/know where I can get one?
Much obliged!
KE6OCM
--


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (KB5ELV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Repeaters in San Rafael, CA Area?
Date: 21 Apr 1996 22:21:26 -0500
Message-ID: <4letvm$[e-mail]>


Hi,

At the end of May, I will be going out to San Rafael, CA for guide dog
training and will be there for about a month. Can anyone send me some 2
meter/440MHZ repeaters I might get into while I'm there? I do plan to
bring an HT with me.

Thanks.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV        | PC-MATTIC
Voice: [phone]        | MAXIMUM Adaptive Technology
Internet: [e-mail]    | Training, Integration, and Consulting
[e-mail]    | Voice: [phone]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:17 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: RFI: Eico 710 Dipper Coils?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4l05n3$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 19:02:29 GMT

In article <4l05n3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Watts)
 writes:
>Hello, I have obtained an Eico model 710 Grid Dip Meter, covering
>0.4 to 250 MHz, but no coils.  Internal inspection reveals three
>terminals for the coils, and a small test with a coil of wire didn't
>come out too nice.
>Anybody have any information on how the various coils are wound or
>where to get a copy of a manual?
>Trying to dip,
>galen, KF0YJ

Straining the brain, I seem to recall that dipper uses the Hartley
circuit.  So the third wire connection is to a tap near one end of
the coil for feedback excitation. Memory could be faulty, but I
also recall that the highest frequency "coil" is just a loop of
heavy wire formed from a piece of wire about 6 inches long and
plugged into only the two outside pins of the socket. Feedback
in that case must be by circuit strays. I had one of these many
years ago, but sold it and bought a solid state version, a Heath,
a long time ago.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael McCarthy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Rotor problem, please help :-(
Date: 18 Apr 1996 04:26:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4l4g9b$[e-mail]>
References: <4kbqsp$[e-mail]> <4knbch$[e-mail]>

In article <4knbch$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>[e-mail] (Pablo Lewin) wrote:
>
>>Hi, and thank you for reading this
>
>>I have a HAM III/CD44  (CDE) rotor and controller, the rotor works
>>really well, however the heading indicator stopped working yesterday,
>>it just won't "track" anymore and the needle is not physically stuck,
>>I fear that I may have misplaced a wire and I don't have the
>>schematic/owners manual.       Does anybody out there know how to find out
>>how the wires are connected ?, any troubleshooting techniques for the
>>meter?, could anybody send me the text or the GIF of the Schematic (or
>>both)?, where can I get an old owner's manual?/ book?
>
>Every CDE/Telex rotor book I have seen has a way to check if the 8
>wires to the rotor are properly connected on the tower.  You use a VOM
>or VTVM.
>
>Sounds like either a wire or perhaps the resistor in the rotor motor
>is bad.
>
>You can get it repared for a flat $75 at HY-gain/Telex even if an
>older CDE.
>
>Dave K4JRB
>

The sending resistors have a tendency to go bad quite often.  If the
connections check out, I would suspect it.  I keep extra's on hand.


--
===================== Give every man his Dew ===========================
Michael A. McCarthy
Everest Engineering Corporation, Consultants
4 Barnes Circle, Marlborough, MA 01752
[phone]
E-mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham ra
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 96 13:25:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio

G>As response to Bob, I think deletion of Morse testing for non-Morse
 >operation is clearly warranted today (and redundant for those doing
 >Morse operation). But in the same breath I would add that I don't think
 >current testing (even including a Morse test) is *sufficient* to adequately
 >address various legitimate government concerns. It's not that I want to
 >make the exams "tougher" per se, but rather that I want them to address
 >relevant issues adequately regardless of the level of "effort" that may
 >require on the part of an applicant.

I do not operate packet, satellite, RTTY or fast/slow scan television.
So, should they delete those questions from the exam?

---
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Sienfield's Kramer & morse code
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:53:54 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi All.

Any body watch Sienfield last night (4/18)?

When Kramer and Elaine were arguing about about whether he desrved
the bike at Jerry's place, he got the last word in by saying "dit dit dit!",
then slamming the door.

I doubt its really related to the code, but he said "s" none the less.    :)

Take care.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Starting with amateur radio?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:27:02 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> unconfigured <[e-mail]> wr
ites:
>Can someone tell me how I can start getting involved in amateur radio?
>I am interested a lot in the technical aspects of the hobby.
>Once, a long time ago, I worked with AM and FM (504kHz-1500kHz,
>88MhZ-108Mhz) equipment. I would like to start all over again but this
>time get a license etc. Is there a book to guide me thriugh what's
>available out there?

Yes, drop by your local Radio Shack and get a copy of "Now You're
Talking".

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:24 1996
Date: 21 Apr 1996 10:40:30 EDT
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (William Coyle)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Still for sale: HTX202


I still have for sale
Radio shack HTX 202 Radio shack HT

Have all but manual.  In good condition.

Also includes a 5/8 wave Rubber duckie antenna along with standard
rs antenna.

Best offer.
I got some offers before, but my server crashed and I lost all my
e-mail.  So if you made an offer before and I never responded to you,
try again!
Bill
N3OGH
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alan Gollom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Suggest Digital Requirement Instead Of CW
Date: 21 Apr 1996 18:03:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4ldta6$[e-mail]>

Morse Code IS a dying mode.  I still operate on CW, but frankly find the
digital modes much more satisfying.

Digital is the wave of the future.  That's where all the growth is now.  Just
look at the Internet.  Since digital is the growing technology of the day,
why not incorporate that into the ham radio theory tests for those who
would rather not do CW.

In order for us to maintain the frequency allocations we now have, the
number of new hams must keep increasing.  Rather than discourage them
from the hobby by requiring knowledge of old technology, why not
encourage them by learning the newest and fastest growing technology
of the day.  Help them realize that the Internet is not the only way to
communicate with others around the world.  Let them see the wonderful
blend of computer technology and ham radio.

I'm not saying dump CW.  I'm just suggesting that for those who do not
wish to learn it, we should require them to learn something else in its
place - in this case, digital technology.  This way we do not make the
requirement any easier, but instead encourage aspiring hams to learn
something with a little more relevance to today's technology.

Things change and we have to keep up with the changes or the hobby
will shrivel up and die.

73...Alan VE3XAG



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:26 1996
From: Jesse Royall <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ten-Tec 6 Meter transverter
Date: 21 Apr 1996 21:39:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4le9v7$[e-mail]>




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:27 1996
From: Jesse Royall <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ten-Tec transverter
Date: 21 Apr 1996 21:42:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4lea4d$[e-mail]>

  Anyone get in on that deal??

I have noticed that have stopped advertising it in the Mags from what I
have seen.... Was just curious as to know if anyone has had any luck with
it and its performance....

I have one matched to a TM-255a that seems to do about 8 watts. The only
thing is I have no one around me to really test it... that and I don't
have a outside antenna...(Which might help....maybe..hehe...)

Jess  <KC5LOS>


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:28 1996
From: Wayne Prather <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TUBE GL 6942
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:29:25 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I RECENTLY ACQUIRED TWO TUBE MOUNTING SOCKETS, ONE OF WHICH HAS THE TUBE
IN IT.  THESE SOCKETS ARE COAXIAL STYLE SOCKETS ABOUT TWO FEET HIGH,
WITH A FAN MOUNTING.  WHAT IS THE GL 6942?  HOW MUCH POWER ARE THEY GOOD
FOR? WHAT ARE THEY WORTH?
ANY INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
           WAYNE


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (RUSS WUERTZ)
Newsgroups: 01aus.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: VK2WI Weekly News, 7th April, 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 08:56:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (RUSS WUERTZ)
References: <[e-mail]>



      There are some extreemly insane HAM radio people here in the
U.S.A.   They keep following other people (due to drug use) and
broadcast voices.   Voices that pop out of no where.

       In Bridgeport, CT. someone took some crack cocaine and then was
followed by some crazy people who started broadcasting voices and told
him to kill someone.   HE DID!

       Since we could not stop these crazy people with HAM radio
following victoms, politics went up on the penalty for selling cocaine
(used to be the ingredient in Coke-a-cola)

        Even the police seem to broadcast voices!    Daytona Beach, FL.
and here in Brevard County.    When I call the police I can see how
absolutly insane they are!

         Please bring up this problem in your conference.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (PGSPersEng)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: W3A QSL info?
Date: 14 Apr 1996 23:25:17 -0400
Message-ID: <4ksfit$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (PGSPersEng)

Over the weekend, I worked the special event station W3A and am looking
for QSL info. Any help out there?

Tnx, 73
Paul, AA1MI


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Petronet Networks)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What is KPC-3 TNC ?
Date: 21 Apr 1996 13:59:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4ldf04$[e-mail]>




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:31 1996
From: Dennis Jacobson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What is KPC-3 TNC ?
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:44:07 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ldf04$[e-mail]>

About $90.00
--
       73... Dennis                          Retired:
       INTERNET: [e-mail]                Just another road kill on
       AX25: N6NG@KJ6FY.#NORCAL.CA.USA.NOAM  the Information Highway.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael McCarthy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Which PREFIX to put before a RECIPROCAL Permit ?
Date: 18 Apr 1996 04:32:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4l4gka$[e-mail]>
References: <4kc8qv$[e-mail]>

In article <4kc8qv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Today I received from the FCC a reciprocal permit, so I can operate in the
>USA.
>Unfortunately, the FCC did not state on the permit what the prefix should
>be.
>I think it will be W4/PA3BTL, but I'm not sure. (PA3 prefix means full
>license).
>
>Reactions will be appreciated, so I can follow the correct rule.
>
>Regards,
>
>PA3BTL,  Henk van Asselt

The numeral corresponds to the call area that you will be operating in.
W1 or N1 or K1 can be used here in Massachusetts.  W4 is southern US like
Florida South Carolina, etc.

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but contrary to other countries, here in
the US, the prefix FOLLOWS your callsign.  i.e PA3BTL/W1

--
===================== Give every man his Dew ===========================
Michael A. McCarthy
Everest Engineering Corporation, Consultants
4 Barnes Circle, Marlborough, MA 01752
[phone]
E-mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (LARRY JAFFE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB HW-32
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 18:31:00 -500
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (LARRY JAFFE)

WTB HEATH HW-32 IN OPERATION CONDITION W/MANUAL AND AC P.S.

WANT TO GET BACK ON THE LOW BANDS

WA1FIH


 * 1st 2.00 ~ "Bother", said Pooh as he fell into the nitric acid bath


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:34 1996
From: michael neidich <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.antiques.radio+phono,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB: SCR-274N & ARC-5 Xmtrs/Rcvrs
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:01:33 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Help with a B-17 radio shack restoration project.  Need Clean, Unmodified,
preferably NIB examples of types below:

Navy            Army            Freq
                BC-453          190-550KHz
                BC-946B         520-1500KHz
R26/ARC5        BC-454          3-6MHz
R27/ARC5        BC-455          6-9MHz
                BC-457          4-5.3MHz
                BC-458          5.3-7MHz
                BC-459          7-9MHz
                BC-696          3-4MHz

Thanks & 73,
Mike, K2ENN


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 23 07:54:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bostonian)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTD: RCA WT-100A or Hickok 700 Tube Tester
Date: 22 Apr 1996 02:00:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4lep7r$[e-mail]>

RCA WT-100A and/or Hickok 700 tube tester wanted.  Seeking unit in good
running condition, needing some repairs or for parts (if I later come across
a working unit).  Willing to swap for something or please state a fair price
for the respective unit.  I would prefer swapping something as cash is tight,
but I would have to find out what you are looking for -- I may have it.
Please indicate if you have manuals, schematics, charts and/or plug-in tube
sockets for the respective tube tester.

Kindly, email with details.

Thank you.

My correct email address is:

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Berlin Slone)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 10-codes
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 21:52:04 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4kre4b$[e-mail]> <4l5r5e$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 18 Apr 1996 16:38:06 GMT, [e-mail] (Warren Ring)
wrote:

>In article <4kre4b$[e-mail]>,
>FORDTORINO <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>I am looking for a copy of 10-codes that the police,fire,departments use.
>>If someone could E-mail this to me I sure would appreciate it!
>
>Well, good buddy, you're not likely to find those on this newsgroup.
>That's CB lingo.  It used to be that police and fire departments each
>had their own series of codes.  That may still be true.
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>  *\|*/*/                      *\|*/*/ *\*|*/*      Warren Ring / AB6QE
>*\*\/*/*/*        \/_\/      *\*\/*/*/*\*|*/*/*       Columbus, Ohio
>*-\\|*/-*-*       /\|/\      *-\\|*/-*-*\|*/-*-*  [e-mail]
>  *\|/*/-*  m_______|__        *\|/*/-*\*|/*/-*
>  \||/     /__________/\______  \||/    \||/      Age and treachery always
>   ||      | = = = __| /_____/\  ||      ||       overcome youth and skill.
>   ||      |______|D_|_[]_[]|_|  ||      ||
>
Being a former Police Officer, I can tell you that each police
department, may have different codes.  Some what the same in the same
state.  If you have a friend that is a police officer, he should make
you a copy or ask a dispatcher, in Indiana we in general would pass
that on to the public, since anything transmitted is public knowledge.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Fredrik, SM7UGE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 144 Mhz EME-sceds wanted for clubstation SK7AX in JO77DS !!!
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:05:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4lgl44$[e-mail]>

Hi,

This is SM7UGE and SM7FWZ who are looking for 144 Mhz EME-sceds for
our local clubstation with callsign SK7AX (Name: SVARK).

SK7AX are located in HUSKVARNA in SWEDEN in loc. JO77DS, rig is a
FT-736, antenna is 4 x 15el QD, power is 800W, and we recently bought
a DSP-filter. The only thing we dont have is QSO┤s in our
logbook....hi. (not so many - most of them are by satellite).

There is a clubmeeting every tuesday between 17 and 22 UTC, so sced┤s
are very welcome in this time, but also saturday and sunday are fine
to us.

Please write a mail to one of the adresses below if you are
interested,

73 de Fred SM7UGE and Ronny SM7FWZ

Packet: SM7UGE @ SM7UGE.F.SWE.EU
E-mail: [e-mail]

Packet SM7FWZ @ SM7FEJ.F.SWE.EU
No e-mail.

-.-.   ..-      ---   -.      .   --   .      ..--.         .-.-.





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Sasa Grgasovic)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 220Mhz & 440Mhz Radiation?
Date: 26 Apr 1996 16:31:55 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lqtpr$[e-mail]>

I know this is pretty dumb question but life is no game :-).

I have two antennas mounted on the window of the office where I
work. One is 2 element yagi transmiting constantly on the ~220Mhz
band with the power of about 2W. The other is ~440Mhz GP antenna used
for the packet radio transmiting with the power of about 0.5-1W cca.
let's say 15 sec in a minute. Is it safe to have two transmitting
antennas just about 10 foot away from the place where I spent most
of the day? There's only window between. One of my friends told me
it's not dangerous but he has a 10Ghz microwave link right on his
desk so I want to hear opinion from someone else. I just don't want
to dye from cancer or something similar to that.

Thanx a lot. (Sorry for my english).


--

-- Sasa Grgasovic  ContactInfo ----------------------------------
mail :[e-mail]  URL: http://jagor.srce.hr/~sgrgasov
phone:[phone]  IRC:sysop  radio:3.6666mhz USB, 27.025mhz AM
      001/345-816   MANIAC     169.000mhz FM +4.5 CTCSS: 141.3
----------------------------------- GENOCIDE technologies ------=



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (jose manuel de lara)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: <none>
Date: 26 Apr 96 06:02:19 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


unsuscribe


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:24 1996
From: [e-mail](michael silva)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: A real fun time (was Re: Selling out of ham radio)
Date: 23 Apr 1996 01:42:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4lhchv$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4l7qlh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l9tkm$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> Danny Browning <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Bill Nelson wrote:

>> The repeaters are only a tiny portion of Amateur Radio.
>>
>> Want a challenge? Try working 5BWAS CW on a homebuilt one tube
transmitter
>> and two tube regenerative receiver. For more of a challenge, use
only
>> dipole antennas.
>>
>> Bill
>
>
>WOW!!! sound like a real fun time (excuse me) I have better things to
do I'm life than
>CW! This is the 90's CW is long gone.....just like the phonograph. 10
more years and
>hams will only talk about CW, and the old days.

Hah, communicating with radio equipment you built yourself -- what a
joke!  We hams have better things to do with our time than poking
around with those stupid resistors and things!  Like the man said, this
is the 90s -- we *buy* our radios these days...

73,
Mike, KK6GM



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:26 1996
From: Les Butler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ADMS-1B Webpage wanted
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 22:07:22 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

DARRYL LINKOW wrote:
>
> Hello all and thanks for reading this.  A couple of weeks ago
> someone posted the Web Page for downloading the patch files for the
> latest version of the Yaesu ADMS-1B software.  If you know that
> Website, please Email me or leave message here.
>               73, Darryl KE6IHA
>
>               [e-mail]
>
> ---
>  * OLX 2.2 * Darryl Linkow [phone]  9 am - 5 pm PDT

http://www.cris.com/~lsbutler

page down to the Amateur links

Les


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Duckworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio? I don't know anymore...
Date: 23 Apr 1996 10:22:34 -0400
Message-ID: <4lip3a$[e-mail]>
References: <4leqnk$[e-mail]>

In article <4leqnk$[e-mail]> you write:

---clip---

>So, fellow amateurs, what's out there that ain't in here?  And is it
>really worth such a big chunk of my income?
>

1) It is not expensive to talk to folks using Morse. One of it's
   more endearing characteristics. Another being that there is
   some thrill in talking to a guy camping in the mountains in
   ZL on 40m CW with less power than the average flashlight uses.

2) There are a lot of interesting folks out there who do not have
    access to the internet and will not for some time to come.

3) There is the initial comraderie that comes from using Morse to
   communicate. You find this among sailors (wind powered) too.
   I can walk into the radio club in Hong Kong, introduce myself,
   and meet some folks. Actually I can do this almost anywhere in
   the world and know I'll be welcome. Try walking into a
   computer center somewhere and sitting down for a chat.


Now for a pro Morse tirade :-)



It's pretty obvious from reading this group that Morse isn't for
everyone. Just like Soccer, Rugby, Sailing, Flying, etc. It takes
some interest and effort.

However, it is one of the things that makes amateur radio special.

I like to look at it this way. Having no particular interest in
modulation other than Morse, why should someone have to learn about
SSB to obtain an amateur license???

Linda can copy Morse at 20WPM + but has absolutely no aptitude for
math and hence can't get through the written exam. Why not remove the
written requirements for Ham radio. The equipment is virtually fool proof
these days. She has no need to know how to tune a tube type final amp.

So, why not special requirements tailored to each individuals own abilities
and interests?

Now for my opinion.
If amateur radio does not require some extra effort giving rise to
a sense of accomplishment when one has acquired a license, knows Morse,
knows how radio works, understands the various digital modes and
modulation schemes, then it's nothing.

Anyone can buy a plane ticket or drive a motorboat or talk on a cell phone.

Doing away with the Morse requirement (and I agree, it's an archaic mode)
brings ham radio one step closer to being another consumer product.

Like IRC.


-bob
WB4MNF


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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio? I don't know anymore...
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 17:47:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4lm14k$[e-mail]>
References: <4leqnk$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Emmett Hoops) wrote:

>Besides, I have IRC, which is precisely what I wanted from Amateur
>Radio to begin with.  So tell me, why should I go to all that expense
>just so I can do in code what I do with a keyboard?  Where's the fun
>in radio, now that so many people use computers to do the code
>translation for them?

First, not everyone uses a keyboard to copy code.  You can verify this
by sending poorly enough with a bug to keep a computer from copying.
<g> Personally, I find code to be a refreshing change from the
Internet and the last thing I want is to use a keyboard.

Second, there's a big difference between an on-air QSO with your
own equipment and a conversation using someone else's transport
system.  The latter has been available for a long time in the form
of telephones and mail.  There's nothing quite like the challenge of
communicating over long distances with nothing between yourself and
the other person but air.  That's partiuclarly true if you build the
equipment yourself.

>So, fellow amateurs, what's out there that ain't in here?  And is it
>really worth such a big chunk of my income?

It's possible to set up an efficient amateur station for much less
than the cost of the typical 486 or Pentuum computer system.  I run a
KW on all HF bands from 80 to 10M and the total investment was less
than a thousand dollars, plus some time.  I could easily cut that in
half without the amplifier, and I could half it again with a
combination of careful used equipment shopping and homebrew.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Curtis D. Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio? I don't know anymore...
Date: 26 Apr 1996 22:10:42 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4leqnk$[e-mail]> <4lj23g$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 23 Apr 1996 16:56:16 GMT, Warren Ring <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>upgrade.  Besides, I have IRC, which is precisely what I wanted from
>>Amateur Radio to begin with.
>>So tell me, why should I go to all that expense just so I can do in
>>code what I do with a keyboard?

Because IRC is a dependant system. I can't say to you, "Look, you wanted
to be a ham, so do some radio stuff", but I can say that IRC doesn't talk
to the Mir platform on packet, or the Space shuttle, or do moonbounce, or
aurora. Inet doesn't do qrp cw work, or DX to countries and places where
there is no internet. And ham radio does do Inet, with amprnet, and in
alot of places, there's connections to people worldwide using radio to
interface with the internet. I don't know, but i get a tinge of excitement
about thinking that we put this thing together, and are interfacing with
the world on it. It's not the what we did, but the how we did it that
makes it worth our while.

>Part of the enjoyment of the hobby is learning of new kinds of skills.
>I would guess that the novelty of doing keyboard CW QSOs will wear off
>for many of them soon, and they'll want to learn something new, like
>maybe CW without the keyboard.  Or ATV.  Or antenna design.  Or...
>
>>I long for the days of 15 meter nights and 80 meter days; when a
>>Technician was unusual; when  a faint signal might just mean Lithuania
>>-- ahh, yes, but I was talking to someone in Lithuania last night on
>>IRC.
>>So, fellow amateurs, what's out there that ain't in here?  And is it
>>really worth such a big chunk of my income?

What's in here that isn't out there is more like it. It's not the fact
that you talked to someone in Lithuania. It's the fact that with Ham
radio, you could be your own provider, your own router, and aren't
dependant on any other equipment than your own. The guy on the other end
is responsible for his rig, so you're covered there. With Ham radio,
you're dependant on very little except a power source, and a tree from
which to sling a dipole, plus the rig. Not to say that inet doesn't make
everything easy, but what if something should happen, and the system
should fail ? How do we talk to Europe, pass traffic, etc, when there are
no sats, no phones, no inet ? Do we send msgs by mail ? irregardless of
conditions, irregardless of situation, amateur radio is there, and serves
a vital purpose. Not to mention the fact that it's fun, and educational.
Most of the technology we have today wouldn't have been developed in the
first place if there hadn't been some ham sitting out there saying what if
we did this.

Plus, what about mobile communications ? Name a mobile service that isn't
cell dependant. When Andrew struck South Fla, we were left without comm to
the whole south end of the city, and what did we have ? Ham radio, that's
what. When the main radio on the shuttle experienced a failure, what was
the backup ? Ham radio again. When pilots were locked up in North VietNam
without a means to talk to each other, how did they communicate ? Morse
code, that's how. When ships are observing radio silence on the high seas
how do they communicate ? Morse code again.

It all has a purpose, and the weird thing is, we never can appreciate the
value of what we learn until we find oursleves in a situation when we
really need it. Alot of times, it's life threatening, and the need to
communicate far outweighs the value of a chat on irc. 73, ttyl.


--
_______________________________________________________
| Curtis D. Levin   kd4zkw       |  Team Os/2 Member  |
|  [e-mail]            | Acft Elec Sys Spec |
| http://www.shadow.net/~cdlevin | Amateur Radio OP.  |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:31 1996
From: Ronald C. Sears <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: American Hams in Japan
Date: 24 Apr 1996 01:10:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4ljv2l$[e-mail]>

Looking for any information concerning American Hams in Japan,
Tokyo or Yokohama areas preferred. Contact numbers or E-mail
address would be very helpful. Thanks. [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (robert bowman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amplifying AM signal with Op Amp?
Date: 22 Apr 1996 16:19:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4lgbj4$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
 John Young Oh <[e-mail]> says:
>
>Hello, I am working on a simple radio circuit for an EE project and I have
>most of the circuit working except for the amplification stages. What I am
>doing is using a simple non-inverting amplifier with an 072 OpAmp to
>amplify the amplitude-modulated signal.

    how much power are you looking for? you probably can use any of the garden
variety small signal transistors such as the 2n2222 in a simple class A amp.
for a little more punch, even the Rat Shack 2n3053 will work well at this
low a frequency.

>One other question deals with the filter. I am going to use a bandpass
>filter to remove noise and have the bandpass center around 277 kHz.

well, if you assume a bandwidth of 6 khz for double sideband AM, and design
the filter Q accordingly, it should be no prob.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dick Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Are telephone DTMF the same as our DTMF
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 15:02:29 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4lp4pg$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Marcus) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>says...
>>
>>Some mis-information has been given abt DTMF from several sources
>>but this is my try at it:
>>
>>Basically, YES...
>will a Telepohone DTMF pad rigged and at the right audio level...access your
>clubs rptr autopatch...YES!!!!!
>]
>
After all, surplus telephone TT pads were the only thing available to
us years ago.  They worked just fine.

Dick Hughes - W7LVA


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peter G. Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL Repeater Directory on the web?
Date: 25 Apr 1996 16:26:57 -0400
Message-ID: <4lon6h$[e-mail]>
References: <4lol2l$[e-mail]>

Rick, AA8VQ ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone know if there is a website out there that has a database of repe
aterr frequencies ?
: This would be similar to the ARRL  directory, or something like it.  Seeing
as how my local
: provider can't update any of my HR NG's, please reply via E-Mail only, oothe
rwise I'll never see
: it.

Check out

http://home.earthlink.net/~artsci/repmain.html





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:36 1996
From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.support.divorce
Subject: Burt Fisher Preservation Society
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:22:37 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: -

On Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:18:10 -0400, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>> >I sold all my ham junk too! I am just plain SICK of ham radio!
>>
>> Then why are you still reading the ham newsgroups?
>
>To feel interesting.
>When I see how dull your lives are, I feel like I am doing something.
>
Mrs. Fisher's little man seem to still be secure in all his
insecurities. Burt hasn't been changing his ways, merely changing his
locations.
It seems the happily married Mr. Fisher has been hanging out for quite
some time in the usenet newsgroup *alt.support.divorce* and as of late
has been making numerous posts to that group. Some of Burt's topics in
a.s.d. have been:
        Do ASDers Own A Gun
        How to Avoid Divorce By Treating Your Husband Right
        CHALLENGE: Compliment Burt, They Sure Do!
        You Determine If I am Fat or Ugly
        The Attack of the HIPPO
        The Unreal of ASDers
Do these threads remind you of what we have seen here in r.r.a.m? The
content of Burt's posts is almost identical, just make a few changes
for the newgroup. ASDers are fat, ugly and boring, and some have
called Burt's wife.
>called called my wife and
>pretended to be nice and the posted an insult about me here
>AFTER the call. I relayed that to my wife (the exact insult)
>and my wife wonders why I bother with you people of zero
>class and credibility.
 There are people who value Burt's thoughts but just like in the
rec.radio group they only E-mail Burt and never publicly make those
posts. Not only that letters of support are amazingly similar!

Besides being a teacher and net loon Burt has other interests. Here is
a post found on usenet from Burt.
>content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>mime-version: 1.0
>newsgroups: alt.disasters.aviation
>x-mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I)

>There was a guy on here offering to make you all tape of air disaters
>for slightly above his costs. But his costs turned out to be $18 PLUS.
>He told me he buys video tape for $5 and rents VCRs.

>Then he told me he was going to contact my employer because I complained.

-cut-
>/--Burt Fisher K1OIK--------/---\---/-\---/---\-----/-----\[e-mail]\
-cut-

Wow such a well rounded (not FAT as we all know) individual is this
man, the myth, the legend of usenet! And what are we doing to preserve
Burt Fisher? We are in dire peril of losing Burt to a.s.d.!
I ran a Burt-bot through usenet and found that since the first of this
year Burt has made 360 posts and 183 of them were to a.s.d.
Come on guys, we have to do something and do it quickly or else we are
going to lose Burt Fisher permanently! Burt is selling his gear and
has lost interest in ham radio and may never post in this newsgroup
again!
How boring will that make this already boring newsgroup? How long
before we forget that all hams are old, lazy, stupid...? Without Burt
the only exciting personal vendettas will be in the Code/NoCode
threads and to read those we will have to weed through all the posts
that contain rational thoughts and ideas.

We must act now to save this valuable resource, make a commitment to
preserve Burt Fisher.

An Earth Day message cross-posted to alt.support.divorce and
rec.radio.amateur.misc


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robin Alexander - GM4YED)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Canadian Reciprocal License - How.
Date: 25 Apr 1996 21:33:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4lor3n$[e-mail]>

Hi,

I`m currently in the US ( I have my US reciprocal permit)
and was thinking of taking a holiday up to Canada.

Can anyone tell me or give me a pointer on how to
get a Canadian Reciprocal permit.

Any other info on how long it takes would be useful.

Thanks

Robin



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:38 1996
From: Frank Erskine <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Canadian Reciprocal License - How.
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 20:54:29 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <c$[e-mail]>
References: <4lor3n$[e-mail]> <4lpu85$[e-mail]>

In article <4lr5cl$[e-mail]>, Walt Davidson
<[e-mail]> writes
>Sorry I spoke .... my information is obviously out of date!
>
>
A typical G3...  ;-)
--
Frank Erskine G3WTE
Sunderland


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:39 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Canadian Reciprocal License - How.
Date: 26 Apr 1996 16:48:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4lquo5$[e-mail]>
References: <4lor3n$[e-mail]> <4lpu85$[e-mail]>

The addresses are also in the phone books under Government of Canada-
Industry Canada. Welcome to Canada, land of 9 months of winter and 3
months of tough skating...


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:40 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Canadian Reciprocal License - How.
Date: 26 Apr 1996 16:02:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4lqs2v$[e-mail]>
References: <4lor3n$[e-mail]> <4lpu85$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Walt Davidson) wrote:
>[e-mail] (Robin Alexander - GM4YED) wrote:
>
>>I`m currently in the US ( I have my US reciprocal permit)
>>and was thinking of taking a holiday up to Canada.
>
>>Can anyone tell me or give me a pointer on how to
>>get a Canadian Reciprocal permit.
>
>Hi Robin!
>
>If you had a full "US license" rather than a reciprocal permit, you
>wouldn't need a Canadian reciprocal permit.  However ...
>

Not quite true, I believe.  If Robin is not a U.S. citizen, even if he
did have a U.S. permit, he would not qualify to operate his station in
Canada, in accordance with the provisions of the General Radio
Regulations, Part II.

>There is a main Department of Communications licensing office in each
>Canadian Province.  You get your permit from there on production of your
>UK documents (current licence with validation document).  There is no
>charge and you can apply in person.  The letter of authority will be
>issued over the counter.  If you tell me which Province you're going to,
>I'll tell you the address of the nearest office.
>

Actually, the Department of Communications was broken up about three
years ago and the radio frequency spectrum management port was
incorporated into Industry Canada.
>73 de G3NYY/VE7  (formerly)
>
>--
>Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
>                                    [e-mail]
>

If you wish, just simple send your request for a reciprocal permit, along
with a copy of your license, and a return address to:

Industry Canada
Attention: DOS-PA
300 Slater Street
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada
K1A 0C8

I understand that your permit will be issued with minimal delay.

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Canadian Reciprocal License - How.
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 18:38:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4lr5cl$[e-mail]>
References: <4lor3n$[e-mail]> <4lpu85$[e-mail]> <4lqs2v$[e-mail]>

Sorry I spoke .... my information is obviously out of date!

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Check out this article...
Date: 27 Apr 1996 22:18:56 -0400
Message-ID: <4lukig$[e-mail]>
References: <4ltu67$[e-mail]>

In article <4ltu67$[e-mail]>,
        Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>It goes on to answer the question with
>the true and correct answer: because YE OLDE FAHRTZ,

So I pose the question for the Nth time: I support a code requirement,
and I am younger than you are. If I'm an "Olde Farhtz", what does
that make you?

>which is where the
>large majority of the ARRL's operating budget comes from,

You wouldn't have any actual data to support this contention, would
you?

>The reason for this, of course, is
>so they can keep their own little "private club" on the HF bands and keep
>others from using the frequencies.

Anything that keeps people like you off the radio can't be all that
bad.

>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-

Looks like too much sun is bleaching your synaptics.

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:43 1996
From: jim boyer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CLIP ART FOR NEWSLETTER
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 22:19:49 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Can anyone help me locate a source for clip art of the Ham Radio type? My
DTP can use PCX, TIFF, BMP, WMF and a few others. Any help would be
appreciated.

Publisher of the W7VNJ Newsletter (Casper Amateur Radio Club INC.)

73's to all de N7VLM, Jim Dit Dit
E-mail [e-mail]
Packet N7VLM@N7YVL.#EVAN.WY.USA.NOAM


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Yanke)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Codeless General?
Date: 20 Apr 96 15:59:06 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]


> From: [e-mail] (John Kolb)

> : Unfortunatly, the message above is inccorect. There is not now, nor
> : has there ever been a conditional ticket. You must pass the five.
>
> Not to nit-pick, but my first ham license was a conditional class license.
> A conditional was the regular general class test, written and CW,
> administered by another amateur, permitted when the licensee was
> more thay 75 miles away from the nearest FCC testing location.
> (Back before the VE system)  This was in 1963, in Yokosuka Japan,
> clearly more than 75 miles away from the FCC.
>
I apologize. I had meant since the inception of th VE program. But,
also, the conditional was not intended to allow someone to cheat as
has been suggested here.
David A. Yanke     EMail: [e-mail]

     "I want to die like my grandfather, quietly, in
          my sleep. Not screaming in terror like
                     his passengers."

   Messages shipped by weight, not content. Settling may
   occur during shipping. Any resemblence to original
   thought and/or wit, purely coincidental. Should only
   be used under adult supervision.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:45 1996
From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Coil Formers
Date: 21 Apr 1996 12:52:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4le3l1$[e-mail]>
References: <4lbcv8$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Robin Birch) wrote:
>I am after a source for coil formers of up to 25 mm (1 inch).

Hi Robin, for my bugcatcher coil, I used a Quaker oatmeal
box as a coil former. :-)

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Connecticut QSO Party Next Weekend
Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:13:31 -0400
Message-ID: <4ltrkr$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)

           1996 CONNECTICUT QSO PARTY - OPERATING RULES

Connecticut QSO party, sponsored by the Candlewood ARA, 2000Z
May 4 until 2000Z  May 5, with a rest period 0400Z - 1200Z.
Phone, RTTY and CW.

Work stations once per band and mode, mobiles as they cross
county lines. No repeater QSOs.

Single operator, fixed/mobile, Novice, QRP(5W), Multi-single
Multi-multi classes plus Connecticut club competition.

Connecticut stations may contact other Connecticut stations for
QSO/multiplier credit.

Connecticut stations exchange report and county; others exchange
report and state/province/DXCC country.

CW - 40 KHz. up from lower band edges; Novices 25 KHz. up from
low end; Phone - 1.860, 3.915, 7.280, 14.280, 21.380 28.380. VHF
- 50.150, 144.200, 146.580.  RTTY - Normal RTTY Bands (No WARC
Bands)

Score one point per phone, RTTY QSO and two points per CW QSO.
QSOs with club station W1QI and ARRL HQ station W1AW count 5
points.  CARA will be operating W1AW on Sunday, May 5 from 1400z
to 2000z, on or near the above-mentioned frequencies.

Connecticut stations multiply QSO points by states/
provinces/Connecticut counties worked (DX only one multiplier);
others multiply by Connecticut counties worked.

Plaques and certificates (100 point minimum). Special certificate
for working all 8 Connecticut counties.

Send entry and SASE for results by June 5 to CARA, P.O. Box 3441,
Danbury CT 06813-3441.

Good luck and 73 de Jim, KD1YV


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:48 1996
From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Converting Computer to Amateur Bands?
Date: 21 Apr 1996 12:58:00 -0700
Message-ID: <4le408$[e-mail]>
References: <4l6pqo$[e-mail]> <4lbft8$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>I believe he is asking about the DSP 100 from Comer Communications.

Hi Gary, the PC is an *extremely* noisy environment. I
personally wouldn't want my radio to be powered from the
PC power supply or be close to a 200 MHz processor. How
has the experience been so far with this product? One
still needs an external box for an amp. I can control my
ICOM equipment directly from a serial port on my PC. I
really don't see the attraction.

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hal Garrison)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: County Hunters - All 100 North Carolina Counties in 72 hours
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 03:53:36 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

ALL 100 NORTH CAROLINA COUNTIES IN 72 HOURS!

(Winston-Salem, NC)- The Forsyth Amateur Radio Club, Inc., a
non-profit organization made up of amateur radio operators from
around the Piedmont, has announced a fund raising campaign geared
towards replacing and upgrading its radio tower and antennas located
at the Red Cross Chapter House on Coliseum Drive in Winston-Salem.
Called the Great W4NC County Chase, the fund raiser will take
place starting Friday, April 26, 1996 at 6pm and finish at 6pm on
Monday, April 29. Six members of the W4NC Contest team, a group of
amateur radio operators within the club who participate in several
world wide radio contests each year, will board an RV at the Red Cross
and attempt to drive through all 100 counties of the state of North
Carolina in 72 hours. While on the road, they will contact amateur
radio
stations around the world with the radio gear which will be on board.
The driving and the radio operation will be continuous throughout the
72 hour period, as "County Hunters" from around the world will seek a
contact while the vehicle moves from county to county. Other
members of the club will be manning the W4NC club station at the Red
Cross to keep up with the vehicle's position.

Members of the Forsyth Amateur Radio club will be soliciting pledges
from friends, family and work colleagues in the amount of 1 cent per
mile. Since the trip will be roughly 2200 miles in length, each 1 cent
pledge will be considered a $22.00 donation to our tower replacement
effort. (Because of our non-profit status, your pledge may be
considered as a donation for tax purposes. Consult your financial
advisor for
more information.)

The Forsyth Amateur Radio Club recently celebrated its 65th
anniversary this past December. Our hobby, besides being a great way
to
learn about the art of radio and meet new people, exists to provide
communication to the community in times of disaster and need. These
times include Hurricanes Andrew and Hugo; The Great May 5th Storm of
1989; and as recently as the Blizzard of '96 and the following ice
storm. Ham operators aid the Red Cross, local Emergency Management
officials, and local community as a whole by providing
communication during disasters, aid in staffing shelters, assist in
transmitting messages to affected parties, and while in their
vehicles, can
pass condition reports to the necessary agencies. This fund raiser is
to assure that our services can be carried out the most efficient way
possible by keeping our equipment and antennas up-to-date while making
necessary replacements and repairs to our existing facilities.

Here is the schedule which we will be keeping with the tracking team:

Top of every hour

          7.260Mhz(and down)during daylight hours
          3.860Mhz(and down)during night time hours


14.336 mobile net-As propogation allows
Tarheel Emergency Net- 3.923Mhz 7:30pm(2330Z)
Breakfast Club Net- 3.973Mhz 5:00am
3905 Century Club Net- 3.905Mhz, 10:00pm(0200Z)


Other HF freqs. include "the sixties"...
3.860Mhz
7.260Mhz
14.260Mhz AS PROPOGATION ALLOWS
21.360Mhz
28.360Mhz

For more information, check out FARC's homepage at
http://www.rbdc.com/~kq4lo/farc.htm

73
...Hal...



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:50 1996
From: Ben Hastings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DJ-G1T
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:02:38 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I was wondering if any of you had any mods for the alinco DJ-G1T
and if you had any good/bad points about the radio
                        Thanks
--


                        Ben Hastings KC8DBW
                        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:51 1996
From: Ben Hastings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DJ-G1T
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:02:58 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I was wondering if any of you had any mods for the alinco DJ-G1T
and if you had any good/bad points about the radio
                        Thanks
--


                        Ben Hastings KC8DBW
                        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:52 1996
From: Philips Telecom <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DXBase
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 96 14:09:33 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I have the DXbase info now

Thanks and 73 Fred


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:53 1996
From: Philips Telecom <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DXBase
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 96 12:03:21 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Can anyone help with the address of the DXbase web site please?

TIA

Fred G4BWP


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:54 1996
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4ldt11$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 00:07:44 GMT

In article <4ldt11$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Tech Support -- Camille Klein <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>--Camille, loving the Triangle but at the same time missing Minnesota.
>
>Hey, as we say to our Yankee friends who think we are all just a bunch
>of stupid rednecks....Delta can have yo butt back in Minnesota in
>about 2.5 hours.

Probably not. Delta has come to stand for Doesn't Ever Leave The
Airport since they unwisely laid off too many of their staff.

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Goudreau)
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: 23 Apr 1996 16:12:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4livgh$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lgakj$[e-mail]> <4lgpfh$[e-mail]>

James Warren Price ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Bob Goudreau ([e-mail]) wrote:
: :
: : Tornadoes are "very rare beasts" here?  Since when?
:
: Relatively speaking, yes.

No.  She said "very rare", not "rare relative to (say) Kansas".
States where tornadoes can correctly be deemed "very rare" would
probably include Vermont or Hawaii or Washington.  But tornadoes
are really not all that uncommon in eastern North Carolina during
the spring and summer.

: One bit of supporting evidence is how y'all respond to them.

I'm not exactly sure what this means.  If you mean that we can
only come up with singular examples of tornadoes in NC, you're
wrong.  Check out the back issues of local papers like the N&O
to see how often tornadoes strike their readership area.

Of course, tornadoes that result in loss of human life (e.g., the
one in the late 1980s that killed four people and destroyed a
Raleigh Kmart) are far rarer than storms that destroy only
property, but that's true anywhere.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Goudreau                    Data General Corporation
[e-mail]          62 Alexander Drive
[phone]                 Research Triangle Park, NC  27709, USA


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jack Tackett)
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: 25 Apr 1996 14:58:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4lo3us$[e-mail]>
References: <4l9p49$[e-mail]>

Gary Pearce ([e-mail]) wrote:
:    Eyewitness Account of the Zebulon Tornadoes

Gary, although many have , while not flamed you, have singed you and the
other SKYWARN volunteers, all I have to say is thank you for your service
to us, its not much I know, but Thanks.

--Jack



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:57 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 06:27:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4lmrhb$[e-mail]>
References: <4l9p49$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Some people like to skydive, some like to climb mountians ( Everst,
K2, etc.) , and alot of other dangerous things I would not do. But I
leave it up to them to decide for themselves what is to dangerous. If
someone wants to watch a tornado, do it. But the minimum you should
know befor running out to watch one is that they are unpredictable,
and you could be killed. If you understand this and still want to
watch. Have fun and good luck!

Brad Hoyle
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:40:58 1996
From: Daniel Finn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: 27 Apr 1996 03:08:22 GMT
Message-ID: <01bb33e6.f93ade20$681c3498@dfinn>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lgakj$[e-mail]> <4lki8t$[e-mail]>


On Wednesday, April 24, 1996, Camille Klein wrote...
> Quoth Bob Goudreau:
>
> : Tornadoes are "very rare beasts" here?  Since when?
>
> Excuse me--*relatively* rare beasts.

"Relatively" rare? They seem to happen more frequently than hurricanes in
S. Florida. Would "not uncommon"  be an exageration?




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Price N3QYE)
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eyewitness SKYWARN account of Zebulon (NC) Tornadoes
Date: 27 Apr 1996 23:08:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4lu9cr$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lgakj$[e-mail]> <4lki8t$[e-mail]> <01bb33e6.f93ade20$681c3498@dfinn>

Daniel Finn ([e-mail]) wrote:
: On Wednesday, April 24, 1996, Camille Klein wrote...
: > Quoth Bob Goudreau:
: > : Tornadoes are "very rare beasts" here?  Since when?
: > Excuse me--*relatively* rare beasts.
:
: "Relatively" rare? They seem to happen more frequently than hurricanes in
: S. Florida. Would "not uncommon"  be an exageration?

Stupid comparison.  Rare for tornadoes and rare for hurricanes doesn't
imply the same frequency.  I like my analogy better -- it does snow here
in the Piedmont, but everybody freaks out and doesn't know how to handle
it, and the same goes for tornadoes, because they aren't frequent enough
that people know how to respond properly as do people in, for example, the
midwest.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim, [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:01 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Farnsworth vs Koch
Date: 24 Apr 1996 18:24:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4llrka$[e-mail]>

I'm attempting to learn Morse code using SuperMorse - great program!
However there's an opinion that the "Koch" method is better than the
Farnsworth see  - http://hawk.nmt.edu/~bateman/sara/finley.sm404.html
I cannot seem to understand the difference between the two.
Any advice would be very appreciated



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alfred Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Farnsworth vs Koch
Date: 25 Apr 1996 18:06:32 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4llrka$[e-mail]>

In article <4llrka$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
> I'm attempting to learn Morse code using SuperMorse - great program!
> However there's an opinion that the "Koch" method is better than the
> Farnsworth see  - http://hawk.nmt.edu/~bateman/sara/finley.sm404.html
> I cannot seem to understand the difference between the two.
> Any advice would be very appreciated
>

I have also read about the Koch's method.  It sounds very appealing to
me.  I think if I am to learn Morse, Koch's method is the one for me.


I think the basic difference between the two methods is that the
Koch's method does not allow your brain to do the translation.  The
Farnsworth's method will send at say 22 WPM dit/dash rate but leaving
a long pause between characters so you can mentally replay and
recognize the characters.  The Koch's method will play each characters
at 22 WPM so there is no time for the translation.  It also throws only
two characters at you so there is a 50% chance you will guess it right.
But the nice thing I think is that there are only two characters to
learn and hopefully you will soon learn the two character at 22 WPM
speed.  After that, you will learn only one additional character
while reinforcing the old ones.  Farnsworth's method does not require
this.

73,


---
Alfred Lee                                                       [e-mail]
m
KE6KGV           'The answer is (e^iπ + 1) ? "No" : "Yes"'
Remembering: KE6LTH, KD6HNU, March 22, 1996


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:02 1996
From: Ken Kushnir <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FS: 70's Heathkit Catalogs
Date: 23 Apr 1996 15:33:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4lit83$[e-mail]>
References: <4lfb40$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Send me three, one for each year. UPS COD or let me know will send check
Ken
5610 Skylane Blvd Suite B
Santa Rosa, Ca. 95403
707 545-8300




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:03 1996
From: Jiandong Liang <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: RF Signal Generator
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:33:55 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Vintage military RF signal generator
for same. Details in rec.radio.swap.

JD


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chad Robertson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT-530 DTMF DECODE Trick?  I forget.
Date: 27 Apr 1996 00:26:16 -0500
Message-ID: <4lsb5o$[e-mail]>
References: <4lmqnp$[e-mail]> <317f5ecd.3219696@199.86.32.8>

Gilbert Baron ([e-mail]) wrote:
> [e-mail] (Cobra295) wrote:
> >I have a Yaesu 530 and I know there is a way to decode the DTMF digits and
> >see them across the LCD.... I forget how to do it and believe it isn't
> >published in the manual.

If you are talking about the DTMF memories, the instructions are found on
page 46-47 of the manual.  Basically, have the phone icon diplayed, hold
"FM" for a 1/2 sec, and press any numbered key.  Then turn the dial to
select the DTMF memory number in the memory box at the upper left, and
use the arrow keys to display each digit.  Good luck.
--
| Chad Robertson        |  http://www.mc.edu/   |                          |
|                       |       ~robertso       |  e-mail: [e-mail] |


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:05 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: g4jst-the future of amateur radio
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:44:05 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

New challenge for amateur radio.

When was the last time that you read or heard
something positive about amateur radio?
I can't remember either.
Everyone recalls and enjoys the Hancock
sketch where the man himself played a
pompous, petty and technically
incompetent ham communicating with a
world where everybody wanted to talk and
nobody wanted to listen.  We remember
Tony Hancock's radio amateur because it
encapsulates truth about the hobby more
accurately than any words that we might
write about it.

Amateur radio desperately needs a new
reason for its continued existence.

Radio communications was the principal
driving force behind electronics
development from its beginnings until the
end of the second World War.  It was used
to tie empires to their mother countries,
and then as an instrument of war itself
when empires disintegrated.  Radio hams
found themselves involved in research and
development, especially in the early days
of radio, and then as a source of specialised
skills in the war years.

There was a post-war surge of interest
fuelled by the availability of surplus
equipment, most of which required
technical competence to adapt for amateur
use.  But when this was gone, radio
amateurs became simple consumers and
mostly bought their equipment off the shelf
losing much of their technical
independence and usefulness.  Galton and
Simpson were now able to document
Hancock's radio ham.

Somewhat paradoxically, the intellectual
decline in amateur radio reached a trough
when the numbers engaged in the hobby
peaked in the early Eighties.  Two factors
combined and contributed in this.  Firstly,
the multiple choice entrance examination
as an order of magnitude easier to pass
than its written predecessor; secondly,
radiocomms as a hobby was massively
popularised by the CB boom.  Most of the
new influx could contribute nothing except
self-conscious and inane chatter using
equipment which owed more to credit card
companies than the owners' technicalcompetence.  We are now seeing a
decline
in the number of radio amateurs as the
novelty wears off.

Naturally, this jaundiced view does not
tell the whole story.  One only has to look
to the work of Amateur satellite groups and
the activities of Surrey University to
appreciate that some aspects of the hobby
remain challenging, educational and
useful.  A few enlightened souls still
manage to push the bounds of RF design
engineering, usually by combining the
demands of their jobs with the pursuit of
their hobby.  But if amateur radio is to
command any respect - and retain its
frequency allocations and privileges - it
must take up new challenges.

The market requirement for cordless
communications once again casts RF
engineering as a driving technology.  While
it seems unlikely that amateur radio could
contribute directly at chip level
development it has a role to play in
enthusing and educating the next generation
of RF engineers. As editor of this magazine
I hope to hear from radio amateurs
prepared to experiment with direct digital
synthesis, If band, DSP spread spectrum
communications, high performance small
signal and large signal RF systems,
broad band design techniques and packet
transmissions etc.
If amateur radio finds itself incapable of
of, or indifferent to accepting a new challenge,
then it does not deserve to survive.

Frank Ogden G4JST.

Editor: Electronics World + Wireless World 1994



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:07 1996
From: Dave Hand <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Gainsville Fl Hamfest Info ???
Date: 25 Apr 1996 17:49:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4lodva$[e-mail]>

I was thinking of flying into Gainsville for the Hamfest. If anyone
can give me a contact that I can call to get info on location ect.
I would appreciate it.

Thanks in advance....

Dave Hand WB4HYP
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:08 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: GPS Receiver For Sale
Date: 21 Apr 1996 12:23:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4ld9c4$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

For Sale Magellan GPS NAV DLX-10

Due to expansion underway at the Internet Provider I use if you are
interested in the following receiver you will have to contact me via.
phone, E-mail is not working at this time!  My apologies.

Magellan GPS NAV DLX-10, Handheld 10 channel GPS receiver, includes
receiver in like new condition, quad helix detachable antenna with 6
ft. extension cable and suction cup mount, Magellan active patch antenna
with 30 ft. cable, PC RS232 data and power cable, NEMA/DC power and data
cable, 110 AC power supply, extra battery clip, receiver mounting
bracket. and manuals.  $600+shipping    505-382-0596

DGPS is not readily available here in the Rocky Mountains of NM, and I
am going to a code phase survey receiver to allow postprocessing for
2 to 5 Meter accuracy.

David Dixon ([e-mail])


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:09 1996
From: Tom Medlin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham WWW Home Pages
Date: 27 Apr 1996 20:37:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4lu0j7$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

I have just finished my first home page and it shows my ham shack and has
links to amateur radio. I would like to ask anyone that wants to to pleawe
link to my page. you can see it at http://www.cris.com/~tcmedlin
thanks

"Brian D. Morgan" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I am still collecting WWW Ham related Home Pages. Mine is listed in the
>signature. Please e-mail me yours. I would appreciate a link to mine from
>yours also.
>
>73,
>--
>
>Brian D. Morgan, CPBE
>Internet Consultants of Springfield
>http://www.fgi.net/~bmorgan/wa9iaf.htm
>[e-mail]    217-698-5970




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:10 1996
From: "Brian D. Morgan" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham WWW Home Pages
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 10:21:01 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am still collecting WWW Ham related Home Pages. Mine is listed in the
signature. Please e-mail me yours. I would appreciate a link to mine from
yours also.

73,
--

Brian D. Morgan, CPBE
Internet Consultants of Springfield
http://www.fgi.net/~bmorgan/wa9iaf.htm
[e-mail]    217-698-5970


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:10 1996
From: DON CHILDRESS <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham-Fest Banners with changable letters
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 15:22:10 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

"TRADE SHOW" banners with changable letters. Unlimited usage compared
to one-time custom printed banners. Indoor or outdoor, nine sizes
from 2'X4' to 3 1/2'X19' ...NEW... Patent Pending concept by
"Build-A-Banner". E-Mail your postal address for a brochure.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:11 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] ("Stephen Walters")
Subject: Re: HELP!! Mods for alinco 6 MTR
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4lrkhp$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:06:45 GMT

how about getting the Alinco DX-70 on to 70MHz Tx/Rx.

G7VFY.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:13 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HELP!! Mods for alinco 6 MTR
Date: 26 Apr 1996 23:00:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4lrkhp$[e-mail]>

Help, I have recieved a couple mods for the 6 mtr rig but they are not
specific enought to be sure what they are refering to as far as the
location of the solder pads. There should be a reference part number or
bottom left or some kind of aid.... thanks
jeff
[e-mail]

Here is an example...........................

TX and RX MOD DR-M06T Alinco
RX 32-87Mhz    TX 42-70Mhz
1. Remove top and bottom covers.
2. Remove the main dial from the case
3. Remove the front plastic case.
4. Unscrew the 3 screws on the control unit and remove.
5. Locate  jumper locations (see diagram)
6. Place solder on the left 2 locations.
7. Reassemble the radio.
8. Reset the Microprocessor
 ( press and hold [FUNC] and turn on)

     Control unit backside
--------------------------------------
|         |        |                  |
|         |        |                  |
|         |        |                  |
---------------------------------------
              ^
              | \
              |   \
        --------------------------
        |                        |
        |     [] [] [] []        |
        |     || ||              |
        |     [] [] [] []        |
        |     ^--^ place jumpers here
        |     :::::::::          |
        --------------------------

Expanded RX only Mod   RX 40-60  TX 50-54
1. Press and hold the [CALL] key and turn radio on
   Thats it.

Channel display MOD
1. Press and hold the [TOT] key and turn radio on.
the radio will no display channel numbers.



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:14 1996
From: Malcolm Appleby G3ZNU <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HELP:    US trader info, Michigan
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 19:11:37 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi - thanks for reading this.

A (non-internet) ham at work is making a trip to Michigan in June and is
looking for any information on amateur radio traders in the area -
specifically Ann Arbor.  Can anyone with access to QST or similar have a
look for him please - I'm sure he'll be grateful.

Replies by e-mail please to avoid cluttering up the newsgroup.

--
Malcolm Appleby G3ZNU


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:15 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: HELP:  Grounding Question?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:15:42 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (William Coyle) writes
:
>
>The sheild from RG8 works good for the copper braid if you have some
>sitting around.

Coax braid is Ok for DC and 60 Hz AC ground leads, but it makes a poor
lightning (and RF) grounding conductor. Smooth, solid, flat copper strap
is much better. This is because of skin effect. As each strand of the
braid dives into the bundle, skin effect forces the current to try to
stay on the surface, and it does that by jumping from strand to strand
via the relatively loose (and relatively high resistance) mechanical
connections in the weave.

Incidentally, this is why flexible braided coax has higher losses than
hard line, and why a twisted stranded inner conductor also has higher
losses than a solid inner (for use as coax, dielectric losses are also
a factor, though not of great importance below VHF, but when the braid
is used as a grounding conductor, the dielectric inside the coax (if
left in place) doesn't matter). The losses may seem insignificant at
amateur power levels, but at the thousands of amperes of a lightning
surge, the resistance is sufficient to elevate the far end of the conductor
(tens of) thousands of volts above the local Earth potential. That in turn
can lead to a potential for electrical shock, or for unintended arc paths
to form. The latter can then allow currents to circulate through your
equipment via unintended paths, causing damage, if very careful layout
is not observed.

5 inch copper strap (also called roofing flashing) is what is commonly
recomended for critical grounding conductors. Copper pipe can be used
too, but it is a less economic use of copper since only the outside
of the circumference will carry RF currents because the inside of the
pipe forms a waveguide beyond cutoff for the RF. A flat strap allows
both sides of the conductor to conduct, and so is equivalent to a
pipe of twice the circumference of the strap's width, IE a 5 inch
strap is equivalent to a 10 inch circumference copper pipe (3.18 inch
diameter pipe). If you were to pound a 3.18 inch copper pipe flat,
it would form a 5 inch strap with twice the thickness of flashing of
the same gauge as the pipe material, so you'd be using twice as many
pounds of copper for the same electrical effect. Since copper is
expensive, using flat strap is more economic.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:16 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Greg Dolkas)
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 00:20:34 GMT
Distribution: inet
References: <4jt38t$[e-mail]>

Walt Kornienko ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: I must remind one and all that to pass electrical inspection
: (do I have to get it inspected? you bet?) all antenna leadin wires,
: coaxial coables, and control wires entering and leaving your shack MUST
: pass thru a bulk head that is grounded to the service entrance ground.

Ok, so in my case since the service entrance is on one side of the house, and
the shack/coax entrance and ground rods are on the other, do I just attach
the 3rd wire of the house wiring (ground) to the bulkhead?

                                           |   %
        | service                  shack   |   % coax feed
        | entrance                         |# @@
        |---+                           %%%%%%@@ lightning
 mains  |   |     house wiring             |#  |  arrestor
========|   |========================_______#  |
        |   |                   safety gnd |#--+
     +--+---+                              |   |
     |  |                                  |   |
     #  +----------------------------------+   |
     #                                         #
     # service ground                   ground #
                                         rods  #
                                               #
                                               #

Doesn't this create a ground loop, or some other sort of safety problem?
Also, since *ALL* radio wiring needs to go through the ground window, includin
g
the power cords for the radios, what sort of device do I use there, and how
is it connected?

Thanks,

Greg  KO6TH


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nancy Rabel Hall (KC4IYD))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How/When did Field Day originate?
Date: 23 Apr 1996 16:12 EST
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

A friend of mine will be getting some tv coverage for Field Day for
the ham club she belongs to. For the coverage she has been asked to
provide some backgound information about Field Day, such as when did it
start, who started it and why, etc. I know why we have it but I have no
idea as to who started Field Day or when the first Field Day occurred.
If anyone has any info on this, I would be happy to hear it. My friend does
not have email access so email me or post to the group and I'll make sure
she gets the info.

Thanks and 73
de kc4iyd, Nancy
[e-mail]

  Nancy Rabel Hall                      [e-mail]
  Space Experiments Division            --... ...--   -.. . KC4IYD
  NASA Lewis Research Center            stamp collector, SF addict
  Cleveland, OH 44135                   non-sports card collector


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jose Manuel Albornoz Martos)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HQ 180A
Date: 24 Apr 1996 21:42:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4lm779$[e-mail]>


Wanted : Manuals for Hammarlund HQ 180A receiver.
WILLING TO PAY FOR COPIES>

E-mail me please


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:19 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Thomas)
Subject: Re: Impending HDTV....
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 04:02:45 GMT

HDTV may well be a technical marvel (though most SVGA monitors will
provide the same resolution if not the aspect ratio) but what makes
you think that the quality (or content) of the shows will be any
better than it is now? (yecch!)

--
*********************************************************************
* "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."              *
*                                                                   *
*  [e-mail]  - Glenn Thomas                                  *
*********************************************************************


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Garver)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: intermod vs overload
Date: 25 Apr 1996 17:10:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4lobmd$[e-mail]>
References: <4lg5h8$[e-mail]>

In article <4lg5h8$[e-mail]>,
Gary Ross Hoffman  <gary@carcs3> wrote:
>Can someone explain the difference between "intermod" and
>"front end overload"?
>Thanks


I'm surprised that no one has followed up on this simple yet
pointed question.  Many hams talk about intermod yet I suspect
that few know what the term really means.
Maybe its in the wrong newsgroup.  *rec.radio.amateur.misc*
seems to mostly contain followups to Burt, code debates, FM-25
testimonials, and attacks/defense of ham radio in general.
I will crosspost this to *rec.radio.amateur.equipment* and
route followups to that group which is closest to the technical
segment of ham radio, apparently a declining vestage.

Its been said that the best way to extract correct information
from the Net is to first post incorrect information, so here
goes:

Front End Overload occurs when a nearby strong signal drives one
or more of the active devices in the initial RF circuits of a
receiver into their non-linear regions.  This may create
additional products due to the mixing action of the non-linear
device.  The result may be spurious signals all over the band.
In other cases it may cause the receiver to become deaf to weak
signals because the active device has been shifted out of the
weak signal region.

Intermod, or Intermodulation occurs when a strong signal that
is not within the receiver's passband is amplified by
successive stages anyway until it is strong enough to overload
an active device and drive it into a non-linear condition.  In
this non-linear condition the device will mix signals with other
weaker signals as well as the intended signal.  Many more signals
will be created by the sum and difference of the mixing action.
Some of these product signals may fall within the Intermediate
frequency passband and be further amplified by the receiver.
This is similar to front end overload except that the offending
signal was not strong enough or close enough to cause initial front
end overload.  It was instead amplified within the receiver's
early stages until it did eventually cause an overload condition
in a downstream stage.

Both of these problems can be cured with tighter filter circuits
on the front end of the receiver, preferably before any active
devices.  Cavity filters work good for VHF/UHF but are expensive
and too narrow sometimes.  Another cure is reducing the RF gain.
If the spurious signals suddenly go away while turning down the
RF gain, suspect that intermod was occuring within the RF stages.
Vacuum tubes are not as susceptable to either of these problems,
I don't how susceptible the various flavors of FET's are compared
to bipolar transistors.

A related subject not curable with any of these methods is the external
mixing at dissimilar metalic joints which may create mixing products
outside of the receiver.  A local rusty rain gutter for instance.


Let's not followup to this with statements like 'go read some ARRL
book".  Please.


WA7LDV




--
[e-mail]          WA7LDV            I don't speak for Intel


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alfred Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: intermod vs overload
Date: 25 Apr 1996 18:06:22 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4lg5h8$[e-mail]>

In article <4lg5h8$[e-mail]>,
Gary Ross Hoffman <gary@carcs3> wrote:
> Can someone explain the difference between "intermod" and
> "front end overload"?
> Thanks

I'll give my shot but will appreciate any correction.

For this discussion each signal is a pure carrier sinewave.
It should also extend to an AM or FM signals.

Intermodulation is generated when two or more signals are
amplified by an amplifier that has some non-linearity.  The
results are additional frequencies that do not contain in
the original signals are generated.  For example, Fa - Fb,
2*Fa - Fb, 2*Fb - Fa, etc. may be generated.  When these
intermodulation products fall in the passband of the radio
IF, audible results may be heard.

Frond end overload may cause two different effect.  First
is that a strong unintended signal gets in the frond end
and interfer with the AGC and the resulting reduction in
gain causes the desired signal to be lost.  Second is that
the high signal level may drive the frond end amplifier to
enter a non-linear mode and cause intermodulation.

73,


---
Alfred Lee                                                       [e-mail]
m
KE6KGV           'The answer is (e^iπ + 1) ? "No" : "Yes"'
Remembering: KE6LTH, KD6HNU, March 22, 1996


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Regional Warning Centre)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 17 April 96
Date: 17 Apr 1996 23:24:54 -0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4l3uk6$[e-mail]>


SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 17/2330Z APRIL 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 17 APRIL AND FORECAST FOR 18 APRIL - 20 APRIL
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: Very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number :  69/3

GOES satellite data for 16 Apr
       Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV:   3.5E+06
       Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV:  1.6E+04
       Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 1.4E+09 (very high)
       X-ray background: A1.0
Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             18 Apr             19 Apr             20 Apr
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 18 Apr:  70/5

-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Unsettled to active

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 16 Apr
    Learmonth       22  4433 3533
    Fredericksburg  20                          11
    Planetary       20                          10

Observed Kp for 16 Apr: 2233 2323

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Date      Ap    Conditions
18 Apr    12    Unsettled
19 Apr    15    Unsettled
20 Apr    15    Unsettled

-----------------------------------------------------------
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
17 Apr      Normal         Normal         Fair-Normal
PCA Event : None

3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
18 Apr      Normal         Normal         Fair
19 Apr      Normal         Normal         Fair
20 Apr      Normal         Normal         Fair

-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
Date   T index
17 Apr     3

Observed Australian Regional MUFs:
Darwin: Depressed up to 30% at times for the
        period 01-12 UT, otherwise near predicted monthly values.
Townsville, Sydney, Canberra and Hobart : Near predicted monthly values.
Spread F observed during local night at Darwin and Townsville.

Predicted Monthly T index for April: 10

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
Date   T index  MUFs
18 Apr     5    near predicted monthly values
19 Apr     5    near predicted monthly values
20 Apr    10    near predicted monthly values

--
IPS Radio and Space Services      | email: [e-mail]
PO Box 5606                       | WWW: http://www.ips.gov.au/rwc/
West Chatswood NSW 2057 AUSTRALIA | FTP: ftp://ftp.ips.gov.au/users/rwc/
tel: [phone]                | fax: [phone]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Regional Warning Centre)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 26 April 96
Date: 26 Apr 1996 23:38:39 -0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lrmpv$[e-mail]>


SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 26/2330Z APRIL 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 26 APRIL AND FORECAST FOR 27 APRIL - 29 APRIL
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: Very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number :  68/2

GOES satellite data for 25 Apr
       Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV:    8.1E+05
       Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV:   1.8E+04
       Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV:  3.4E+08
       X-ray background:  A1.0
Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             27 Apr             28 Apr             29 Apr
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 27 Apr:  68/2

-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Quiet

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 25 Apr
    Learmonth        4  1122 1211
    Fredericksburg   6                           6
    Planetary        5                           5

Observed Kp for 25 Apr: 2211 2122

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Date      Ap    Conditions
27 Apr     5    Quiet
28 Apr     8    Quiet to unsettled
29 Apr     5    Quiet

-----------------------------------------------------------
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
26 Apr      Normal         Normal         Normal
PCA Event : None

3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
27 Apr      Normal         Normal         Normal
28 Apr      Normal         Normal         Normal-fair
29 Apr      Normal         Normal         Normal

-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
Date   T index
26 Apr     3

Observed Australian Regional MUFs:
Darwin: Depressed 15-30% 08-12UT,spread F observed during
the period 13-20UT, otherwise near predicted monthly
values.
Townsville: Near predicted monthly values, apart from 15%
depression observed during the period 07-10UT.
Sydney: Near predicted monthly values,apart from 15%
enhancement observed during local night.
Canberra: Near predicted monthly values.
Hobart: Depressed 15% for the period 01-07UT, with spread
F observed during 08-12UT, otherwise near predicted
monthly valus.

Predicted Monthly T index for April: 10

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
Date   T index  MUFs
27 Apr     5    near predicted monthly values
28 Apr     5    near predicted monthly values
29 Apr    10    near predicted monthly values

--
IPS Radio and Space Services      | email: [e-mail]
PO Box 5606                       | WWW: http://www.ips.gov.au/rwc/
West Chatswood NSW 2057 AUSTRALIA | FTP: ftp://ftp.ips.gov.au/users/rwc/
tel: [phone]                | fax: [phone]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Golando Gathings)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ka9q not dialing out...Help !!!
Date: 27 Apr 1996 20:29:09 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: ka9q,ppp


I am trying to use ka9q to connect to a linux box via ppp. The
.nos files and dialer script look like this ..

.nos file :

isat on
attach asy 0x3F8 4 ppp pp0 1024 296 19200 r
dialer pp0 adial.ppp
ppp pp0 trace 2
ppp pp0 quick
ppp pp0 lcp open
ppp pp0 ipcp open
route add default pp0
ip ttl 32
tcp mss 1460
tcp window 2920
attach packet 70 en0 8 1500
domain suffix tdic.com
domain cache clean on
start echo
start discard
start telnet
domain addserver 38.8.82.2
host adhia.tdic.com
start ttylink


the dialer file :

control down
wait 3000
speed 19200
control up
wait 2000
send "AT&F\r"
wait 1000
send "ATE1Q0M1X7V1S7=60\r"
wait 1000
;send "AT &A3&K3&B1&C1&D2&H1&M4&N0&R2&W\r"
;wait 3000 "OK"
send "ATDT *70,xxx-xxxx\r"
wait 60000 "sername"
send "useme\r"
wait 3000 "assword"
send "password\r"
;wait 3000 "oice"
;send "3\r"
;wait 3000 "PPP".





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Garver)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood TM621A cross-band repeat?
Date: 24 Apr 1996 15:56:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4llj07$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Summary: FUNC-ABC
Keywords: 220/2m mobile

In article <[e-mail]>, Penn McClatchey <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I heard from a former owner that the Knwd TM621A can function
>as a cross-band repeater.  The manual doesn't mention it.
>Anyone know how (if?) it can be done?

Press <FUNC> then <ABC>

I haven't tried it on either of my TM-621 radios in several years.
<ABC> is the Automatic Band Change feature, which I also never use.

You might check the mod files at:

oak.oakland.edu in the /pub3/hamradio/mods/kenwood directory.

There are several mods there for the TM-721 which is the same radio
except its a 144/440 dual band instead of the 144/220 bands.


There seems to be room inside these radios for a THIRD BAND module.
Does anybody know what the story on this extra space is?

WA7LDV




--
 <<<<"Put the urban skyline in your rearview mirror and KEEP it there">>>>
[e-mail]          WA7LDV            I don't speak for Intel


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christer Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc,comp.home.automation,sci.electronics.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: L.O.S.A Contribution Form
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:24:01 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

List Of Stamp Applications (L.O.S.A for short)
==============================================

If you have done something with the BASIC Stamp (big or small)
that you are willing to tell others please use the form below and
write a short description, nothing fancy is needed just a simple
explanation. If you have source code to share that's even better but
it's not necessary.

Then e-mail the form to:

     [e-mail]

With the following as the subject:

     L.O.S.A Contribution

Or you could point your Web-browser to the following URL and fill in
the L.O.S.A form on the Web-page...

     http://www.hth.com/losa.htm

The latest version of L.O.S.A is going to be posted to the following
mailing lists and news groups, I will update it approx. once a month.

Mailing lists:

BASIC Stamp Mailing List

News groups:

comp.robotics.misc
comp.home.automation
sci.electronics.misc
rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
rec.radio.amateur.misc

FTP-site:

     ftp://ftp.parallaxinc.com/pub/text/losa.txt

You can also find the latest version on the following URL...

     http://www.hth.com/losa.htm


[--- cut ---]

======================================================================
                    - L.O.S.A Contribution Form -
======================================================================
 New Contribution [ ]  Update [ ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------

 Title :
 Author:                                       Date:

 E-mail: (optional)
----------------------------------------------------------------------

 Stamp model   : BASIC Stamp/BS1-IC/BS2-IC
 Code available: YES/NO
 Filename      : (optional)
 URL           : (optional)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Description   : (5-50 rows describing your application)


======================================================================

[--- cut ---]

If you think something are missing in the "L.O.S.A Contribution Form"
please let me know and I will add it.

Regards,

/Christer

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 * High Tech Horizon  -  Christer Johansson  -  E-mail: [e-mail] *
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 * Vi saljer Parallax, Inc. BASIC Stamp's produkter i Skandinavien *
     >>  World Wide Web On-Line Catalog - http://www.hth.com  <<
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Roberto Franceschetti)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: LogSat for Windows (sat tracking) home page + Moon keps
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 19:46:47 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anyone interested in satellite tracking might want to take a trip to:
http://www.netwide.net/logsat
It's the home page of LogSat Professional, a satellite tracking
program under Windows. The commercial version of the software is
advertised there, but you may download the demo version as well. The
site also carries fresh keps (updated daily) for about 700-900
satellites, available both as a zip file or in uncompressed format,
ready to be read by tracking programs. Also available are pseudo
Keplerian elements for the Moon, which will allow you to track it just
as if it was a normal artificial satellite. Of course there will also
be a few links to other interesting pages related to ham radio.

73s,
Roberto Franceschetti  ik8sqi


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Shel Darack)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Macintosh software advice wanted
Date: 23 Apr 1996 16:37:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4lj104$[e-mail]>

I am considering changing from an old pc XT to a Macintosh IIx
for use in my station. This would mean changing my packet software
(eg getting Kantronics Hostmaster for Mac) as well as logging
and satellite tracking.  I also have an interface to my Kenwood
TS 440. I would like to use all of these and could use some
advice about doing this with the Mac.

Please respond to my new email (or post here)

tnx  Shel  WA2UBK     [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:33 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mental Block? (was: Selling out of ham radio)
Date: 24 Apr 1996 16:11:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4lljr6$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l9csk$[e-mail]> <4lajbq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Matt Roberts) wrote:
>> >     despite about 30 years experience in hardware and software, including
>> > rf design, the code requirement kept me out of the hobby. i am currently
>> > working at the 13 wpm test, so i can employ more efficient digital
>>
>> Good luck with the test.  An old friend of mine was similarly experienced
>> in radio and enjoyed the hobby but found a mental block when it came to
>> Morse code.
>
>A lot of people on welfare today have a 'mental block' when it comes to worki
ng, but as long
>as we keep giving them what they want, they just keep taking it.  Seems the s
ame is holding
>true for good ol' amateur radio.

Welfare is, usually, granted to those in need, who for financial, medical
or any other legitimate reason, is supplied by the state the resources
that it feels are sufficient to keep body and soul together (whether it
is sufficient, or is extravagant is another debate.)  The funding for
welfare comes from the pockets of each one of us throught our municipal,
provincial (state), and federal taxes.  If someone claims that welfare,
it is taking that money, indirectly, from my pocket.  If the claim is
illigetimate, then that same pocket has been summarily emptied
illegimately.

But the code/no-code debate is not analaguous to me, the tax payer.  In
fact, if Morse code test were abolished, perhaps my tax dollars would
decrease.  No doubt, however, it would be incrementally small because it
would be more of an administrative savings, than actual.  Surely there is
no doubt that if Morse code testing were abolished, there would be no
measurable increase in interference from amateur stations.

Therefore, the analogy that Morse code is a reflection of our supposedly
give-away times doesn't stand up to scrutiny because the abolition of
Morse code isn't "something for nothing", but the continuance of such
testing is "nothing for something".


>Doesn't really matter though, since all I have to do these
>days is shout 'hearing problem' and I get a code free...what?...Advanced or E
xtra?  Why
>work?
>


As I understand it, in the U.S., a candidate can produce a medical
certificate attesting that the candidate is unable to take a Morse code
test due to a disability.  I understand that this was undertaken in
accordance with equal access provisions of U.S. laws because it was felt
that the incapacity to write a Morse code test should not be a barrier to
one being able up-grade to the highest level of amateur certification.

Regardless of the merits of such a provision, where it is viewed as
amateur radio's contribution to affirmative action, it does seem to be a
signal example of reverse discrimination, but not only that, but one
could draw the conclusion that the U.S. government has determined that
Morse code for higher certification is indeed superfluous. Those who have
a disability have a means of upgrading their qualifications without Morse
code testing beyond 5 words per minute, while those that are able=bodied
must demonstrate their capabilities.  If Morse code is not required by
those that are handicapped, why is there the necessity for those who are
not must take the test?

An irony that is almost pervers.


>By the way, I wonder if that guy ever sold his gear...

Send him and e-mail to find out.

>----
>Matt Roberts, KK5JY,
>[e-mail]
>
>
>

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ



I see from ma




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Hamer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mental Block? (was: Selling out of ham radio)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 96 01:21:07 PST
Message-ID: <4lncmf$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l9 <4lmi6f$[e-mail]>

Two guys said:
>
>>If someone claims that welfare, it is taking that money, indirectly,
>>from my pocket.  If the claim is illigetimate, then that same pocket
>>has been summarily emptied illegimately.
>
>The emptying of your pocket is illegitimate regardless of the use to
>which the money is put.  Neither you nor I have a contract with the
>government that grants them permission to do this.
>



                        Uhhhh........WHAT?!?!?!????!?!??!



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:35 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mental Block? (was: Selling out of ham radio)
Date: 25 Apr 1996 12:25:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4lnr0g$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l9csk$[e-mail]> <4lajbq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lljr6$[e-mail]> <4lmi6f$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (WB3U) wrote:
>   Jim Cummings <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>If someone claims that welfare, it is taking that money, indirectly,
>>from my pocket.  If the claim is illigetimate, then that same pocket
>>has been summarily emptied illegimately.
>
>The emptying of your pocket is illegitimate regardless of the use to
>which the money is put.  Neither you nor I have a contract with the
>government that grants them permission to do this.
>
>73,
>Jack  WB3U


No you are wrong Jack.  You neo-conservative viewpoint is not only
unacceptable, but impractical.  Although you are entitled to your
opinion, your attempt to drag me into a viewpoint that is unacceptable is
uncalled for.  Please desist.

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:37 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mental Block? (was: Selling out of ham radio)
Date: 26 Apr 1996 12:43:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4lqgcv$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l9csk$[e-mail]> <4lajbq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lljr6$[e-mail]> <4lmi6f$[e-mail]> <4lnr0g$[e-mail]> <4lpav5$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (WB3U) wrote:
>   Jim Cummings <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>[e-mail] (WB3U) wrote:
>
>>>The emptying of your pocket is illegitimate regardless of the use to
>>>which the money is put.  Neither you nor I have a contract with the
>>>government that grants them permission to do this.
>
>>No you are wrong Jack.  You neo-conservative viewpoint is not only
>>unacceptable, but impractical.
>
>I merely stated a fact.  It is no more unacceptable or impractical
>than any other truth.
>

No you have not stated a fact, as I point out once again, you have mearly
stated an opinion of which I do not share.

>>Although you are entitled to your opinion, your attempt to drag me
>>into a viewpoint that is unacceptable is uncalled for.
>
>Whether you like it or not Jim, what I said is directly related to
>your previous post.  It is, in fact, the basis for the "perverse"
>nature of the U.S. rules that you so clearly pointed out.  Even a
>cursory inspection reveals that socialism extracts a higher toll from
>those who are capable than from those who aren't.

Oh really, based on what facts?  A cursory examination of the rampant
neo-conservative views and the application of which seem to be prevelant
in your country would indicate otherwise.  For example, examine the the
mortality rate of births in the U.S.  I understand that the infant
mortality rate in the US is now higher than in certain Third World
nations.  Hardly an endorsement of aggresive free market principles.
Unless, of course, it is your government's policy to have such a high
infant mortality rate resulting in less welfare later on?  I have my
doubts.

By the way, you may not indeed have a written contract, but there is
a social contract between the government and its electorate.  Part
of that social contract is that the state undertakes to protect the
individual from the those who do not wish to abide by the norms and
standards for a decent life.  The punishment for failure to follow
these norms and standards, is the law.  I understand that the U.S.
has the highest incarcertation rate of any nation in the western
world, so much so that I heard recently that your country is
building one prison per week.  Yet, when the backgrounds of most of
these inmates are examined, you find that there are common threads
of their lives...  poverty, violence, drugs, crime.  Now, I do not
believe that welfare will solve all those problems, because no one
answer is the cure, but it would seem to me that it would be more
cost effective to have welfare to mitigate these vices, than to
spend even more money to house these individuals in these
universities of crime and depravity.

If you don't wish to be taxed in order to help your fellow man, Jack, you
have every right to campaign for that.  But the social costs that you
will pay down the road will be far greater.  Pay me now, or pay even
more, as the man once said.


>You don't want to
>accept the analogy, but it is absolutely appropriate and it explains
>the mystery that you would prefer to leave undisclosed (and
>undiscussed).
>

Pray, tell me which mystery is it that I do not wish to discuss?  I would
be most pleased to know what is that I fear not discuss for which I have
no idea to what you refer.

>>Please desist.
>
>This reminds me of an English couple I met a few years ago.  First
>they stated that Thatcher would be greatly offended by anyone who
>called her a socialist.  Then, in the same breath, they justified
>their government's behaviour on the grounds that most people prefer
>guardianship to freedom.
>

The point being?....

>It takes some pretty tall boots to wade in on that side of the fence.
>

.. and even taller boots to wade through the accompanying bovine
scatology.

>73,
>Jack  WB3U

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:38 1996
From: Mat Eshpeter <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mobile crankup tower -- any manufacturers ?
Date: 25 Apr 1996 13:49:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4lnvtr$[e-mail]>

My company has a requirement for a mobile crankup
tower; that is, a crankup tower mounted on a trailer.

Can anyone help me by providing me with manufacturers
who may be able to build (or already have) such equipment ?

Thanks for any help.
Mat ve3yxt
[e-mail]
[phone]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:39 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mobile HF Nets
Date: 28 Apr 1996 03:04:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <4lun7v$[e-mail]>

I haven't spent a great deal of time mobiling cross-country, but my wife and
I are planning on a roundtrip from California to New York and back later
this summer and will be taking an HF-equipped car.

I understand that 40 meters is the common daytime mobile frequency and that
there are nets whose sole purpose is to keep track of those mobiling around
the country.  Could someone give me the frequencies of these nets and
perhaps some additional information on them?

Thanks very much.

--
Dick Flanagan, W6OLD - ([e-mail]) - Minden, NV


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: National Amateur Radio Week?
Date: 25 Apr 1996 04:52:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4ln0e9$[e-mail]>


Does anyone know when National Amateur Radio Week is in the U.S. ??
Is there a QST reference?

--
73,
Gary K9GS
   __________________
  /       K9GS       |______________________________
 /   FP/K9GS, TO5M   |Society of Midwest Contesters |____________________
(                    |   [e-mail]   |Secretary/Treasurer/
 \   Gary Schwartz   |   [e-mail]    | Greater Milwaukee/
  \__________________|     PacketCluster: NB9C      |  DX Association (
                   (________________________________|       GMDXA      \
                                                  (_____________________\



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:41 1996
From: Peter Coffee AC6EN <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: National Amateur Radio Week?
Date: 26 Apr 1996 15:31:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4lqq7q$kc5$[e-mail]>

I forget the dates, but I just saw the announcement on the ARRL Web site.
Last year, Ham Week ended with Field Day weekend, which makes sense and might
well be the case again this year.  ARRL has a publicity kit that's available
for the asking -- again, the Web site (www.arrl.org) is an easy place to
request this.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need only UT for RTTY WAS
Date: 23 Apr 1996 16:09:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4livc2$[e-mail]>

If you can help, please email me at [e-mail] or
[e-mail]

Thanks!


--
***********************************************************************
Dr. Al Gerheim, N4QN  | I cried because I had  | Sonalysts Inc. POB 280
[e-mail] | no shoes till I met a  | 215 Parkway North
1 [phone] X218 | man who had no class.  | Waterford CT 06385
**********************************************************************


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:42 1996
From: John Mullan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need Telnet IP #'s
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 14:58:09 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Mike Kapitan wrote:
>
> Need the Telnet IP #'s for the F6CNB DX cluster, also the callsign server
> at ualr (have their www address already but find telnetting to be
> quicker).
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike, KM6WB
callsign.ualr.edu 2000 works for me. Sorry I can't help with the DX
cluster info
73 de KD2LQ


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Kapitan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need Telnet IP #'s
Date: 24 Apr 1996 19:08:23 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Need the Telnet IP #'s for the F6CNB DX cluster, also the callsign server
at ualr (have their www address already but find telnetting to be
quicker).

Thanks in advance,

Mike, KM6WB


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:44 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Old Radio Clubs
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 11:16:05 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4lavsb$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Patrick Cook wrote:
>
> clubs like the DRC (Denver Radio Club), which has been around since World
> War II, and is *one* of the oldest (if not *the* oldest) clubs in the nation
,
> and is the first club I ever joined.
>

The Milwaukee Radio Amateurs Club has been in continuous existence
since 1917.

73 de Will KB9JTT  MRAC member (the first club *I* joined)


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:45 1996
From: [e-mail](Rob Peebles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: On Glass Antennas ?
Date: 24 Apr 1996 22:00:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4lm89l$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Armstrong) writes:

>
>Has anbody had experience with on glass mount antennas for 2 M and/or
>70 cm ? Do they work ?
>Ever heard of burning a hole through the window with too much power ?
>

I have a Larsen 2/440 antenna on my 94 Integra.  I went with the glass
mount because of the hatchback design of the car.  It seems to work
about as well as the Larsen NMO mount 2/440,  and performance on 440 is
a lot better than on 2 meters.

It appears that they changed the design somewhere along the line. A
friend has the new style on an Acura just like mine, the new antenna is
shorter and from what I understand it doesn't have any adjustments that
can be made to it on the assembly line.  The current version doesn't
seem to perform as well on 2 meters.

If the outside coupler gets filled with water,  the SWR goes through
the roof and it radiates about as well as a Cantenna.  Then you'll have
to take the coupler apart,  dry it out,  and put it back together with
RTV.

It does ok around town for what it is, but I would only use it as a
last resort.  The next time I buy a car I'm going to think about
antennas before I get off the lot. :-)

--
Rob Peebles, WD8LXX
Dublin, Ohio





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:46 1996
From: Alexander Parkinson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: On Glass Antennas ?
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:43:13 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>


David

Glass mounted antennas work just fine around urban areas. I use
a Midland 2M cellular look alike. The SWR across the band is less
than 2:1 with noticable gain over a standard 1/4 wave MM. The only
caveat I would add is don't mount antenna on tinted glass windows
or rear windows with built in defogger wires. My antenna is mounted
on the top edge of rear passenger side window. No need to drill holes
for surface mounts.

73

Alexander VE4APN
E-mail: [e-mail]
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
N 49 deg., 53 min., W 97 deg.16 min.
Time zone: CST = UTC-6, CDT = UTC-5

On 22 Apr 1996, David Armstrong wrote:

> Has anbody had experience with on glass mount antennas for 2 M and/or 70 cm
?
> Do they work ?
> Ever heard of burning a hole through the window with too much power ?
>
> Much appreciated
>
> 73 de David - VK3KXJ
>
>


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:48 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Packet-Internet, & Internet-Packet Gateways
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 00:04:05 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Patri
ck Cook <[e-mail]> writes:
>On 9 Apr 1996, Jeff wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't recommend that ANY Ham interconnect Packet with the Internet!
>> The two systems can be quite incompatible with respect to potential
>> commercial
>> traffic as well as the likelihood of frequently colorful language....
>> If you want to get on packet, go packet.  If you want the 'Net, log-on.
>
>Gee.  That sure is funny.  If this is the case, then why are there groups
>of hams who are devoting - in some cases - ENTIRE STATIONS to the world of
>TCP/IP?!?!?

Probably because TCP/IP is a useful protocol for packet radio. Its use
does not require a connection to the public wired networks. We make
extensive use of it in GRAPES as a purely amateur radio protocol, with
each of our switches running TCP/IP and doing TCP/IP routing. Our user
stations often use TCP/IP as a transport protocol for amateur radio Email
and file transfers. No connection to the public wired network is implied.

>If this is the case, then we *really* don't need the AMPRnet then.  Now
>do we?!?!?

Do you know what the acronym AMPRNET stands for?  It stands for
AMateur Packet Radio NETwork. Imagine that, no mention of the
public wired network at all, it's an *amateur radio* network.

>Somebody feel free to correct me if I'm mis-reading the above quoted message.

Consider it done. Note that interconnecting an amateur radio packet
network with the public wired networks can and is being done by some
amateurs. Like a phone patch connection, however, it is a specialized
third party interconnect that must be done sparingly and with extreme
care because of the different rules which apply to amateur radio compared
to the rules (or lack of rules) which apply to the public switched networks.
De minimus, a firewall must be erected at the interface of the two networks.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (NICOS HADJIMILTIS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: PC--Modem-- Transciver
Date: 24 Apr 96 17:41:07 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello and thank you for reading my message.

I would like to ask, if it is at all possible to use a telephone modem to
send/recive data
on a transciver instead of of using it on a telephone line.

If you can help please drop me a line.

Thank you

73

     NICOS

                 5B4CV



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (NICOS HADJIMILTIS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: PC--Modem-- Transciver
Date: 24 Apr 96 17:41:09 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello and thank you for reading my message.

I would like to ask, if it is at all possible to use a telephone modem to
send/recive data
on a transciver instead of of using it on a telephone line.

If you can help please drop me a line.

Thank you

                       73
                                   NICOS

                                                  5B4CV


                  E-Mail:  [e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Delaney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Public Service IDing?
Date: 24 Apr 1996 22:12:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4lm90c$[e-mail]>

I've heard public service communications taking place, and they've IDed
by saying such things as "check point 1", "finish line", etc... Is it
legal to use this instead of their callsigns?

Please email your response, I need to know ASAP (got a walk-a-thon this
Sunday)

Thanks de N2MDB

--
Matthew Delaney  N2MDB    [e-mail]   ax.25: n2mdb@k2sk.#eny.ny.usa.na
Technical Engineer - @North.    Head IMP - Quasar MUD (delaney.j51.com:4000)
Personal - http://www.j51.com/~delaney    @North Group - http://www.chsn.org


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:53 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: Public Service IDing?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4lm90c$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 02:55:15 GMT

In article <4lm90c$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Matthew Delaney) write
s:
-I've heard public service communications taking place, and they've IDed
-by saying such things as "check point 1", "finish line", etc... Is it
-legal to use this instead of their callsigns?

This comes up from time to time.  Tactical callsigns (Checkpoint 1) can
be used, BUT DO NOT constitute valid ID.  You must also use your callsign.

Tacticals make it much easier for everyone involved (no need to remember
who is on duty at "finish line" right now), and are very commonly used
in public service events.  At the end of your exchange with net control
(or after 10 mins, if you are taking that long...), just sign with
"checkpoint 1, n1ist clear"; that satisfies the FCC  requirements on ID'ing.

(Actually, please use your call instead of mine :-)
/mike

--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai        N1IST       [e-mail]     \|/
-*- --- Boston Amateur Radio Club:  http://www.barc.org/barc --- -*-
/|\        or send "info barc-list" to [e-mail]        /|\


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dan Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ramsey  FX-440
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 16:42:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4lm07k$[e-mail]>


I'm looking for information on the Ramsey FT-440.
I recently read an article in QST on modifing the Ramsey 2 meter
and 70 cm kit radios, adding PL, DTMF and uProcessor scanning etc.
It looks like a fun project HOWEVER  I've heard the FT-440 is dificult
to build and align.
I would appreciate a response from anyone who has built the FT-440.
Please respond to my email address.

[e-mail]

Thanks to anyone who can help

73  Dan Moore  WD6CYI


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:55 1996
From: Dangerboy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: triangle.general,triangle.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Rednecks? (was: Eyewitness SKYWARN account...)
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 11:04:46 EDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4ldt11$[e-mail]>

On Sun, 21 Apr 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> Hey, as we say to our Yankee friends who think we are all just a bunch
> of stupid rednecks....Delta can have yo butt back in Minnesota in
> about 2.5 hours.

        (But you do have to go through Atlanta first, therefore
subjecting them to *EVEN MORE* rednecks!)

        I guess that's what Northwest is for.

Babbling merrily along,
Sam

----------------------------
Sam Meyer    (aka Sage Dangerboy of the Temporal Sponge)
[e-mail]
(also [e-mail])
President, Ithaca College chapter, Militant Gardening Club

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  "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking   |   "I'm not God...I was
   part that wonders what the part that isn't    |    just misquoted."
   thinking isn't thinking of."                  |       --Dave Lister,
                     --They Might Be Giants      |         RED DWARF
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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (William L. Fuqua III)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ref: Suggest Digital Requirement Instead Of CW
Date: 23 Apr 96 13:28:34 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Manual CW is the minimum digital requirement.

  William L. Fuqua III  P.E.  E-mail [e-mail]  Phone [phone]
5
  Department of Physics and Astronomy      CP-177 Chem. Phys. Bldg.
  University of Kentucky ,                 Lexington, Ky 40506-0055





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:57 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeaters in San Rafael, CA Area?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 05:42:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4ln3if$[e-mail]>
References: <4letvm$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (KB5ELV) wrote:


>Hi,

>At the end of May, I will be going out to San Rafael, CA for guide dog
>training and will be there for about a month. Can anyone send me some 2
>meter/440MHZ repeaters I might get into while I'm there? I do plan to
>bring an HT with me.

>Thanks.
>--
>Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV        | PC-MATTIC
>Voice: [phone]        | MAXIMUM Adaptive Technology
>Internet: [e-mail]    | Training, Integration, and Consulting
>[e-mail]    | Voice: [phone]
San Rafael is a close suburb of San Francisco. There will be repeaters
on virtually every available repeater split on you ht. The ones
closest to you will be the K6GWE repeater system at 146.70 -600,
147.33 +600 (both PL 179.9)  and 443.250 + 5.0 (PL82.5). Virtually all
Bay Area repeaters require PL. Enjoy you stay...73..gus wa6wbc



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:59 1996
From: Will Rogers <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Restrictive Tower Ordinances
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 19:01:47 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello!

Things are hopping here in Palm Beach County, Florida.  The county's
citizen's task force is in the process of drafting a new tower ordinance.

The request is for anyone who might have, or know where we can find,
information and/or briefs of cases where PRB-1 has been used to combat
overly restrictive ordinances.

Please reply to this address:

[e-mail]

Thanks and 73

Will    WA4LQO


e-mail  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:41:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Restrictive Tower Ordinances
Date: 24 Apr 1996 12:49:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4ll81b$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Will Rogers ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello!

: Things are hopping here in Palm Beach County, Florida.  The county's
: citizen's task force is in the process of drafting a new tower ordinance.

: The request is for anyone who might have, or know where we can find,
: information and/or briefs of cases where PRB-1 has been used to combat
: overly restrictive ordinances.

: Please reply to this address:

: [e-mail]

: Thanks and 73

: Will    WA4LQO


: e-mail  [e-mail]

Will, I suggest you contact the ARRL. They have a bunch of
experience in that field.

73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dale Holloway)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Restrictive Tower Ordinances
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:35:28 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 23 Apr 1996 19:01:47 -0700, Will Rogers <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hello!
>
>Things are hopping here in Palm Beach County, Florida.  The county's
>citizen's task force is in the process of drafting a new tower ordinance.
>
>The request is for anyone who might have, or know where we can find,
>information and/or briefs of cases where PRB-1 has been used to combat
>overly restrictive ordinances.

Correction on the ARRL web site. It's <www.arrl.org>. Sorry about that!


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Tom Skelton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Restrictive Tower Ordinances
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (skeltt)
References: <4ll81b$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:13:38 GMT


>==========Jim Kehler, 4/24/96==========
>
>Will Rogers ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Hello!
>
>: Things are hopping here in Palm Beach County, Florida.  The county's
>: citizen's task force is in the process of drafting a new tower
>ordinance.
>
>: The request is for anyone who might have, or know where we can find,
>: information and/or briefs of cases where PRB-1 has been used
to combat
>: overly restrictive ordinances.
>
>: Please reply to this address:
>
>: [e-mail]
>
>: Thanks and 73
>
>: Will    WA4LQO
>
>
>: e-mail  [e-mail]
>
>Will, I suggest you contact the ARRL. They have a bunch of
>experience in that field.
>
>73, Jim KH2D
>

Also write Jim Altman, N4UCK, in Atlanta.  He won a sterling case
and managed to get Fulton county (I think that's the right one)
to re-write their zoning.  It took a Federal level lawsuit, but he's
a lawyer and he did it.  Now N4NX gets to keep his 100 ft tower,
KT34XA tribander and 40m yagi.

Good luck!  73, tom WB4iUX
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:03 1996
From: Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RPTRLNK3 --- where is the URL?
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:58:16 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi,
Just purchased a copy of Vocaltec's IPHONE, version 3.2
It works great, even at 14.4 baud.   Now, I am searching
for the RPTRLNK3 software to help me tie into the USA/EURO
VHF and UHF from here in Taiwan.   Anyone need BV on 144 MHz
or 430?  Ha.

Could someone please post the URL for the RPTRLNK3 software?
I tried a bunch of web searches and came up with zero info.
I actually had previously downloaded version 3.66, but the
floppy to which I downloaded was bad so I lost the entire
700K file.

Thanks in advance,  Joe
----------------------------------------------------------
Amateur Radio:  BV/N0IAT   Taipei TAIWAN Republic of China

ex.  7J1AOF (Japan)  YU3/N0IAT (Slovenia)  KA0ZDH (Novice)
Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986.  Comments are mine only.
----------------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:03 1996
From: John Morris <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: rsgb nearly 10,000 fall in membership
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 21:28:36 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail]  writes:

[snip]

You are G3ZHI and I claim my ten pounds.

--
John Morris                In the time it takes you to read this sentence,
[e-mail]    eighty six letters could have been processed by
GM4ANB@GB7EDN.#77.GBR.EU   your brain.                 - Douglas R Hofstadter


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:05 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: rsgb nearly 10,000 fall in membership
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:44:37 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

RSGB membership falls by nearly 10,000 in the last 9 years

The highest membership of RSGB was 1987 with over 37,600 members
now it is down to 30,600 a loss of nearly 10,000 members in 9 years.

The loss is over 1,000 members per year for the last 9 years
with a loss of revenue of around 330,000 pounds (10,000 X 33).
June 1996 28,500   reported one packet
June 1995 29,805   Latest figure in May 1996 radcom.
June 1995 30,661
June 1994 30,916
June 1993 31,018
June 1992 32,416
June 1991 34,581
June 1990 35,225
June 1989 35,868
June 1988 36,809
June 1987 37,601

The latest membership figure was not given at the 1995 agm
due to 'an oversight....' this has never happened before.

73 ian

P.S. In the 1995 RSGB Annual Report Peter Kirby G0TWW RSGB General
Manager
     states 'Membership has shown a modest increase....'
     thats news to me, I thought 30,661 was a decrease from 30,916!






From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (DARRYL LINKOW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Saturn 6 tuning - HELP!!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 96 10:31:00 -0800
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (DARRYL LINKOW)


Hello all and thanks for reading this.  I just acquired an old
Saturn 6 antenna and am having a difficult time getting the SWR
down below 2.5 to 1.  I am using the MFJ-259 analyzer.  I am just
curious if perhaps part of the antenna is missing?  There are two
screws attached to a piece of phenolic board.  I have attached the
shield and center conductor of some RG-58 coax to these screws as
the feedpoint.  I am just curious if perhaps there is a tuning
device (other than the capacitor plate adjustment) or a balun that
should be connected to these screws on the phenolic board that
might be missing?  Also, might anyone have an instruction sheet or
manual that came with the antenna that I might get a copy of?  Any
help would be appreciated.
                 73, Darryl KE6IHA

---
 * OLX 2.2 * Darryl Linkow [phone]  9 am - 5 pm PDT


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Search 100's of Ham Classified Ads @ http://www.sarrio.com
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:54:10 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The Raymond Sarrio Company's Ham Radio WWW site is proud to announce a
FREE Ham Radio classified advertising page at http://www.sarrio.com.

This new classified section will allow Hams to search for equipement with
the help of a search engine--no need to scroll through 100's of listing
before you find that special piece of gear. Plus, when you find the gear
your interested in, each listing comes with point-and-click e-mail access,
direct to the Ham that listed the item.

For those Hams with gear to sell, take note! It is absolutely FREE to list
your equipment within Ham Classifieds, and there will be no posting time
delays.  Your posting will go on-line, in our classified search engine,
immediately. All you need do is fill out a simple forms page, and upon its
(point-and-click) submission, your "For Sale" advertisement is on-line
within 1 hour. I will be purging the classified listing initially about
once every month, but that timeline will shorten as our classified numbers
go up. Give it a try, and let me know how you like it. 73's Ray
--
The Raymond Sarrio Co. a full feature Ham Radio Storefront on tth WWW at http:
//www.csz.com/sarrio in association with Brillar Enterprises http://win-win.co
m/brillar an Extensive Discount CD-Rom Catalog!



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:08 1996
From: Ted F <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham ra
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 01:56:03 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

ROLAND STINER wrote:
>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
>
> J>You have the no-code tech. We were faithfully promised that it would bring
> in >lots of technically inclined folks who would revoluntionize
> communications, >not just ham radio, and Save Our Bands!
>
> J>Well?
>
> J>Where are they?
>
> J>All I hear is a hollow echo.
>
> I second that!
> ---
>    OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------
>
>  * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)
>
>               .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
>
>       __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
>
>      |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
>
>       ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126

Like I said before in a private post, I'm a computer Tech w/electronics backgr
ound.  Two
of my friends currently learning(mostly band plan stuff) for the tech light ar
e also in
computers.  Seems like we are tech. inclined!  Of course, we don't know code s
o I guess
we are useless to the FUTURE of ham radio!
N3SQY
Ted F.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham ra
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 96 13:25:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio

>Hams actually stand to GAIN some HF
>ground, but I sincerely doubt that we'll be able to hang on to all of
>our space at VHF and above unless we start making better use of it.

We don't use what we have.  Even in NYC most of the repeaters are
silent for days on end...

>The "lack of interest" you speak of has nothing to do with CW. How
>long do you think we can keep our microwave frequencies when less than
>1% of the hams ever use them? Been on 10 GHz lately?

What are you going to use it for?  144/220/440 is much better.

D>For the record, I'm an Extra Class ham who operates mostly CW, but I
 >support dropping CW requirements for amateur licensing. If you don't
 >care for CW, why should you learn it in this day and age?

Why should I learn the bandwidth of an RTTY signal if I am not going
to use that mode?  I don't but the answer is clear-you might and you
need to know it to stay within the band you're operating.  Same with
CW, you might use it and you need to know it as one of the principal
modes we use.
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham ra
Date: 24 Apr 1996 14:48:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4llf0r$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4ljvf2$[e-mail]>

>Is there a compromise in the CW debate?

Nope.  My guess is that the issue will ultimately be decided in the
courts.


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham ra
Date: 25 APR 96 09:29:24
Message-ID: <4lnvda$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4ljvf2$[e-mail]>


In article <4ljvf2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Sohl) wri
tes...
>correct) fail requirement.  But what if we offered test takers the
>opportunity to take the test elements as they do today OR, as an
>option, we let them take the 13 wpm or 20 wpm CW test as an integral
>part of the respective General or Extra theory (i.e. written) test?

Yep, that's almost exactly what I've had in mind for some time. In the long
run, though, we need to get away from the simple-minded easily-memorized
question pool format and come up with some sort of dynamic test that can be
custom-generated on the spot. If we're gonna drag the amateur radio service
into the 90s, why keep a 1950s test format? If it takes rule changes, so be
it.

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (robert bowman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 22 Apr 1996 16:34:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4lgce2$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l3 <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, "c: *
.*" <[e-mail]> says:
>
>Right now, a good listen th 3, 7, 21 Mhz will reveal a bunch of really
>old men talking about their various physical ailments.

thats why the HF crowd is so down of the HT equipped 2M geek: they are
pissed because they can't see the teeny little lcd icons on those new
Icoms. keep getting the repeater offset wrong 'cause they can't find the
little '-' or '+'. trust me - i know this from personal experience.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 19 Apr 1996 11:22:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4l7t2h$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l04it$[e-mail]> <4l0glg$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In message <4l3nro$[e-mail]> - [e-mail] (Bob Ray
m
ond) writes:

Stuff deleted for bandwidth

:>
:>As an aside, would any of you be in favor of a TOUGHER exam in lieu of
:>the morse requirement, I mean something that proves you know what you
:>are doing...like a test where the questions and answers cannot be
:>memorized?
:>
:>Food for thought.
:>
:>Bob
:>
:>KG7WC
:>
:>

I would. I get REAL tired of these 6-month Extras (and a few long-term
Extras) telling me that because I'm not bothering with code, that there's
something wrong with me. Some of these "blue-blood" fools don't know the
first thing about fixing a radio.

I'd like to call an end to "appliance operators" myself, but I fear that
tests will only get easier, not harder.

Another thing I'd like to add is that those out there who complain about the
"lower standards" need to remember that the No-Code Tech license tests WERE
THE SAME ONES that coded Techs had been taking for a few years. All the
elimination of the code did to Ham Radio was point out where the REAL "lower
standards" were all along.



Jim Nuytens  N3JJA/Delaware                     Email:
V.P., Delaware Repeater Association     73700.12 @ compuserve.com
Seitz Technical Products                    Jim @ Seitz.com

             Delaware Ham Shack BBS  302-798-2002

All opinions stated above are my own, which probably accounts
for their unpopularity.



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:16 1996
From: Ted F <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 15:35:42 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4l39cj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l6p6n$[e-mail]> <4lj5et$[e-mail]>

> Which only shows that the Catholic Church is the last thing we should look
> to modeling amateur radio after.  The first point was well taken however
> - even an institution which is mired in it's own history, and too stubborn
> to get out of it's own way, saw the need to modernize.  It stopped too far
> short though.  This is what results when an organization is run by a
> zealot dictator.
>
> I hope and believe that the ARRL will not behave in this way as it guides
> amateur radio toward the future.
>
> 73
> Jim, KE6JPO
> (previously Catholic)
>

My point exactly.  We should all be careful that we do not choke ham radio out
 of
exsistance because of old values and an unwillingness to change.
Ted F.
N3SQY


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 23 Apr 1996 23:21:35 -0400
Message-ID: <4lk6nv$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4l0glg$[e-mail]> <4l0kom$[e-mail]> <4l3456$[e-mail]>

In article <4l3456$[e-mail]>,
        Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Then maybe those of us who are left can modernize the
>service, eliminate the 19th century code requirements that keep many
>would-be hams out of the hobby,

I guess they must have missed that codeless license that gives access
to 90+% of all amateur spectrum.

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Curt Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 96 02:40:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4lhfvr$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>Bill Crocker wrote:
>> That would be like telling your kids they have to learn how to start a Mode
l-A Ford
>> with a crank, before they can get their driver's license!  :)

>Then you say walking is outmoded? You do have to walk before you drive.

  Tell that to my friend goes to his van in his wheelchair, then
drives the van away.  (He's also a ham.)
  Wrong again, Burt.

========= Opinions expressed are solely those of the author ============
Curt Phillips, KD4YU (ex-WB4LHI)      | "I think that marriage is a
[e-mail]               | great institution.  But who
Chairman, Tarheel Scanner/SWL Group   | wants to be in an institution?"
ARRL Life; QCWA; Raleigh Am Radio Soc |     --- Groucho Marx



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:20 1996
From: Ted F <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:58:01 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4l7qlh$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lanut$[e-mail]>

Drew Durigan wrote:
>
> >All they talk about around here is
> >
> >1. What kind of radio they have, want, dream of having
> >2. What kind of radio they have had.
> >3. What they are going to have in the future (dreams).
> >4. How good they are getting into the repeater.
> >5. Where is the repeater located.
> >6. And last but not least THE WEATHER!
>
> Same here, with one addition:
>
> 7. YE OLDE FAHRTZ, speaking in great detail about their health troubles,
> their recent doctor visits, and the present status of their colostomy
> bags.
>
> Makes you want to run right out and get your ticket, doesn't it?
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>  KF4DDM

Just get a bunch of your friends to get a ticket too.  Then you all can ignore
 YE OLD
FARHTZ.  It works great for me!
Ted F.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:21 1996
From: Ross Bodine <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 20 Apr 1996 04:39:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4l9ppo$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l4eb3$[e-mail]> <4l741j$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

hey how's it going?



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gconklin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 25 Apr 1996 16:16:53 -0400
Message-ID: <4lomjl$[e-mail]>
References: <4l9csk$[e-mail]> <4lajbq$[e-mail]> <4lold4$[e-mail]>

In article <4lold4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Robert Dix
on) writes:
+In message <4lajbq$[e-mail]>
+        [e-mail] (Peter Morgan) writes:
+
+> The standard of Morse code (as someone who intended to be a Merchant
+> Navy Radio Officer, and during our course had to maintain 20wpm UP)
+> was so awful that I never wanted to be tarred with that brush,
+>
+Well I've enjoyed lots of wonderful morse on the amateur bands and
+endured some terrible stuff on marine!
+
+
+--
+*               REGARDS & 73's -  from Robert (Bob) DIXON                   *
+*                    Amateur Radio Station - GM3ZDH                         *
+*                 East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland                      *
+*                 Internet - [e-mail]                      *
+

   Please do not post ham radio comments to
rec.antiques.radio+phono.

    Spamming turns you into a lid.






From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 13:12:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4ll9h7$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l2mcs$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l39cj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lhcb4$[e-mail]> <4lic4g$[e-mail]> <4lj24l$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>[e-mail] (Andrew Thall) wrote:
>>
>>There is a lot of emotional feelings on both sides of the argument
>>concerning CW requirements for Ham radio operators wishing to use HF.
>>As of now, International Treaties require that some proficiency in CW
>>be demonstrated.  The treaties leave that demonstration up to the
>>individual countries to determine.
>>
>>It would not be unreasonable to assume that when the international
>>communication treaties are revisited, that the CW requirements may
>>well be dropped.  That would allow the signatories to do as they
>>please with CW requirements.

>While we're waiting, why not drop the requirement to 5WPM across the
>board?  This would be a good first step, and would not violate the ITU,
>since no particular code speeds are specified in the International
>Treaties.

>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
> KF4DDM

Perhaps you are not aware of it Drew, but the CW requirements to get
on HF IS just 5 WPM.  This entry level will allow access to most of
the HF bands on CW, and 10 Meter SSB.

Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employe
r.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 24 Apr 1996 16:39:58 -0400
Message-ID: <4lm3iu$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4l0o2u$[e-mail]> <4l0oim$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
        Jeffrey Herman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>If the entire conversation consists of an antenna discussion, then you can
>bet those guys built the antennas themselves - maybe even designed them.
>You could fill a library with books whose sole topic is antenna theory.
>Heck, we even have an entire newsgroup devoted to antennas (rec.radio.ama-
>teur.antenna). Antennas are magic!

As you know, Jeff, the problem isn't the discussion of antenna theory.
Our "new breed" of amateur radio operator is more likely to run down to
the local radio shack or call HRO to "order" their antenna. Their thinking
is "gee, with all these commercially available antennas, why would ANYONE
want to BUILD one?"

Yet another fine addition to amateur radio thanks to the no-code tech
class.


>Why in the world would you copyright your senseless post?

Considering all posts are automatically copyrighted in accordance with
the Berne Convention, of which is US is a signatory.

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Curtis D. Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 26 Apr 1996 22:35:31 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4lb2no$[e-mail]> <4ldh4p$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 21 Apr 1996 14:36:09 GMT, Barry Millman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>  This is relevant.  Suppose anyone who wanted to could become a ham.
>The frequency bands are a LIMITED resource.  Lots of people become hams,
>since there is no talent required (as the illogical extension of the
>argument).  Terrible crowding.  Then you will have something else to
>complain about.  But there will be no solace for ths, as there is simply
>no more room to fit hams on the bands.

Not the reason for the code restriction. The code is necessary for Ham
Radio operators to know because of Beacon Identifiers on HF, I believe.
Don't quote me on this, but most commercial stations do still use morse
beacons as identifiers. As well as for wx reports, etc, and this fact
caused the ITU to make a morse requirement for HF the world round, at
least where ITU members are concerned. So it's not an FCC decision, but an
ITU decision to keep the code requirement. Amatuer status is a way to
learn to actually provide a useful skill to people desiring to be
professionals as well. What good would amateur radio do if the people
training were to leave out some of the HF reqs to get on radio and just
talk ? In the Ham world, you're not only supposed to know how to turn on
the radio, and use the kewl lingo, but how to repair it if it goes down,
how to fix or reconstruct an antenna, and what to do in an emergency
situation. If you don't want to learn code, then stay on 30 and up, where
you can still do all the things that radio will let you do, without having
your signal leave the borders of your own country and encircle the globe.
Because believe it or not, there's still some intrinsic dangers with the
use of high powered radiators, and there's alot more to this hobby then
just making idle chit chat.

BTW, I am a tech plus operator, even though I know the code at 10+ WPM,
and not because I am too lazy, but vhf-uhf, packet, sat work, simplex,
amprnet tcpip, and alot of other things keep me busy enough to enjoy what
I'm doing enough not to want to upgrade just yet. I have a 10 Meter rig,
and have 40+ world band contacts on it, some with a mag mount and 25
watts, and yes, some CW. I figure I'll get my general round about the time
HF really starts to open up again, and yes, I do believe I'll have no
problems passing the code test when it does. 73.

--
_______________________________________________________
| Curtis D. Levin   kd4zkw       |  Team Os/2 Member  |
|  [e-mail]            | Acft Elec Sys Spec |
| http://www.shadow.net/~cdlevin | Amateur Radio OP.  |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
posted with slrn 0.8.7.1 beta




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike McCarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.antiques.radio+phono,sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Selling out of ham radio
Date: 26 Apr 1996 21:21:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4lrepc$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4l0oim$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l5p8h$[e-mail]>

In article <4l5p8h$[e-mail]>, Jay Huldeen <[e-mail]> wrote:

[stuff cut]

)I have noticed that the people who complain the most about how
)this or that aspect of ham radio (or our society generally) has declined
)are also the *least* likely to actually do something to change it.

[rest gone]

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy?

I don't know, and I don't care.

Mike

--
----
char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}

I don't speak for DSC.         <- They make me say that.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:30 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Selling out thread.
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 06:16:07 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--------------360712324
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I started the selling out thread but you hams can really beat a dead
horse.

Try this test to see if you are man or ham:

--------------360712324
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Test"

This test is for ham radio operators:


1. Do you say QSL on voice?_________

2. Do you say "For ID" after your call?________

3. Is it rare for you to have a contact longer than 20 minutes?_______

4. Do you check into traffic nets to up the "body count?"_________

5. Do you check into traffic nets for any reason?__________

6. Do you participate in contests and like it?________

7. Are you overweight and hold an Extra Class license?________

8. Have your worked more countries than the number of sexual encounters
with your spouse?____________

9. Are you a regular on a two meter repeater?___________

10. Do you dislike children in general?______________

11. Do you ask for help and when received from a number of hams send out
a general thank you to everyone in the world?___________

12. Do you think it is wrong to talk about politics or other interesting
topics on ham radio?_______________


How to Score:

Number of Yes answers:

                   2 or less- are you sure you are a ham?
                   4 to 6- you are on the edge of being human or ham.
                   6 to 8-you are a typical ham-very boring.
                   8 to 1O-check your pulse, if you find one re-take
                   test.
                   1O or more. Call the funeral home, send your name
                   into QST as a Silent Key.

--------------360712324--



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Riley trix)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Skywarn Products - Identify Yourself or Your Group
Date: 23 Apr 1996 16:35:35 -0400
Message-ID: <4ljeun$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Riley trix)

Tornado Spotters!  Let people know who you are and what you're doing.

Custom-made T-shirts, caps, and patches with your name and call sign can
be customized with your group's logo or name. Bumper magnets also
available with the words "tornado spotter" in bold, red letters along with
Skywarn logo.

For info call Jim Riley KB9CYL at 1-800-474-5397 or E-mail
[e-mail]

73,  Jim



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (My name is...)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: SSC SLOW SCAN TV
Date: 25 APR 96 11:42:50
Message-ID: <4lo6m7$[e-mail]>


Ever since I upgraded my PC from a 386 to a 486DX/120MHz I can no longer
get my SOFTWARE SYSTEMS CONSULTING, PC SLOW SCAN TV to work.  I was
wondering if there are some setup changes I have to make?

thanks,
Ken



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:35 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Standing Your Ground
Date: 25 Apr 1996 03:16:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4lmqpp$[e-mail]>

The following was reprinted with permission of the author and KB2AMH


"So your a ham and you think you've made the correct decision where you will l
ive.....

THINK AGAIN!!!!"

That exactly what Kurt, KB@AMH thought when he and his wife decided they
would sell their home in West Caldwell, NJ and purchase another in the SAME to
wn.  You see
Kurt has been a ham for 9 years and always wanted to put a tower.  But knowing
 he needed a
larger home for his growing family, put the tower project on hold.  Kurt wasn'
t about to make an
investment in a tower and then leave to move inot a newer home.  It would have
 to wait until they
could move.

Kurt did his homework, or so he thought.  There were plenty of hams in his tow
n, 52 to be exact.  And
quite a few had towers already.  In fact, 9 years prior, Kurt was present at h
is town's board of
adjustment meeting regarding a variance application made by Mike, WA2JUN.  Mik
e put up his
110 foot tower prior to any approval by the town of West Caldwell, but evetual
ly the board
required and approved a variance for Mike.  It was obvious to Kurt that there
was a precedence in
town when he and his wife made the decision to stay in West Caldwell.

A little over a year after they moved, Kurt made an application to the town to
 erect a 72 ft carnk up tower
with a 20 ft mast.  The townm denied the application citing a 13 ft height req
uirement and a previous
interpretation by the board of having to meet accessory structure requirements
.  A variance application
was suggested by the town and subsequently applied for.

In fact, it was suggested by the town, that 2 types of variances be applied fo
r.  Originally a "C2"
variance, then a "D" variance.  Citing that the "D" type may be necessary as t
he board may decide
that the tower was a primary structure and not an accessory structure.  (This
was the beginning of
the run around the town would give him).  For those of you who don't know, onl
y a primary structure,
like th house you live in, can be considered a ratable, where the town can add
 additional taxes on your
property.

Kurt could see the handwriting on the wall and hired an attorney, KB2BX, to gu
ide him through this
process.  In the meantime, Kurt prepared the application papers, wrote a check
 to the town for $315
and notified neighbors within 200 feet of his property as required by the town
.

After 3 informal meetings and 1 formal meeting, and various letters from the t
owm demanding all
kinds of things..this is how it boils down.  The town demands:

1.  Height of the house
2.  Exact dimensions of proposed antenna in all directions including a picture
 of the same
3.  Approval from the FAA  (Kurt's home is located near a local airport)
4.  An initial escrow payment of $2000 which had been reduced from $3500

The height of the house is of no consequence and has been furnished to the tow
n.

Although approval from the FAA has taken months to aquire because of the gover
nmental
shutdown, the interest of aeonautical safety was always foremost and never was
 an issue.
This approval has been obtained and was furnished to the town.

The town does not have an ordinance regarding antennas, but is trying to regul
ate it.  It is clear
that the FCC has sole jurisdiction over antennas and that the town can only re
gulate the height
of antennas.  But yet the town 10 years earlier had approved a taller installa
tion

By virtue of demanding $2000 be held in escrow, the town is attempting to plac
e every obstacle
in the path of the variance application.  The town plans to use this money to
obtain people who
would testify againbst Kurt's position.  This is discriminatory.  No money has
 ever been asked
of any tower appliacnt in the past.  This flys in the face of equality under t
he law.

Kurt is filing suit in Federal district court against the West Caldwell board
of adjustment.  But
this should be a battle he alone should not shoulder. It is every to hams bene
fit when faced with
oppostion like Kurt, that hams "STAND THEIR GROUND" and don't let local govern
ments run
roughshod over them.  This becomes an emotional, spiritual and finacial battle
 hard to conquer.

Kurt can be reached  [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:36 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Standing Your Ground
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 23:36:33 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4lmqpp$[e-mail]>

Steve - KF2TI, NJ wrote:
> "So your a ham and you think you've made the correct decision where you will
 live.....
>
> THINK AGAIN!!!!"
>

No thanks; I already did - when I moved to an area *without* antenna restricti
ons. :-)

>
> It is clear
> that the FCC has sole jurisdiction over antennas and that the town can only
regulate the height
> of antennas.

I hope you didn't pay a lawyer to tell you that - it's dead wrong.  Antennas a
nd their support
structures are *most certainly* regulable by local ordinance, as long as the r
egulations are not based on
certain criteria, like RFI, that *are* the FCC's sole jurisdiction.  Cities ca
n regulate structures, whether
antennas or not, for a great many reasons, not just height.  Although recent F
CC rulings and court decisions
have reduced local authorities say to a degree, they can still regulate based
on appearance, for example.

73 de Will KB9JTT


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:37 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Still need HW 2036 HELP!!!
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 06:10:16 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4lk1vv$[e-mail]>

Vince Roberts wrote:
>
> I'm still looking for HELP!!!:
>
> I have an HW 2036 with the annoying problem of a full-scale,
> pin-the-meter birdie on several frequencies, most noticable on 146.00,
> 147.00, ect. It's also so strong that 146.52 is useless.

Do you have a scope?
Do you have a sweeper?
Do you have a schematic?

This radio is so old, it can be junked without blinking an eye.  The
performance was marginal when it was new.  But if you are serious,
you need to rent some good equipment and align the L.O. and Synthesiser.
Then go in and align the IF.

Even then you may have birdies...

--
Steve Sampson
mailto:[e-mail]
http://swissnet.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x63BA9AF9


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:38 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Suggest Digital Requirement Instead Of CW
Date: 22 Apr 96 21:50:54 -0230
Message-ID: <1996Apr22.215054.1@leif>
References: <4ldta6$[e-mail]> <4lg24c$[e-mail]>

> [e-mail] (Alan Gollom) wrote:
>>Morse Code IS a dying mode.  I still operate on CW, but frankly find the
>>digital modes much more satisfying.

That's funny.  I thought it was actually getting harder to find a clear
frequency for CW on the amateur HF bands compared with, say a few years
ago.

I find the internet much faster and more dependable for digital communication.

>>Things change and we have to keep up with the changes or the hobby
>>will shrivel up and die.

I agree.  Why not promote our VHF and microwaves allocations?  They're the
ones in danger of being taken from us.  That's where the future will
be.  There's not much room on HF anymore. .

>>73...Alan VE3XAG
>>
Joe VO1NA


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Suggest Digital Requirement Instead Of CW
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:23:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4lgffd$[e-mail]>
References: <4ldta6$[e-mail]> <4lg24c$[e-mail]>

>[e-mail] (Alan Gollom) wrote:
>Morse Code IS a dying mode.  I still operate on CW, but frankly find the
>digital modes much more satisfying.

>Digital is the wave of the future.  That's where all the growth is now.  Just
>look at the Internet.  Since digital is the growing technology of the day,
>why not incorporate that into the ham radio theory tests for those who
>would rather not do CW.
>

Can't say that I agree with you regarding CW is a dying mode, but you
raise a valid point that perhaps we should test on one of the new
digital modes vs. CW.  Lets see,  how bout you sit down with a piece
of paper and pencil and I'll send you five minutes of RTTY, or one of
the "TOR" modes of your choice.  Should the Pass/Fail criteria be one
minute of solid copy or the present "mutliple guess" method?

Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employe
r.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:40 1996
From: Dan Murphy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Tech/Tech+ question
Date: 25 Apr 1996 14:20:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4lo1o3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

> I am currently a Tech and am trying to learn code with the short term
> goal of upgrading to a Tech+. If and when I do this will I have the
> option of going from my current 6 character call to a 5 character
> call?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> KB8VYT
Mike
In 8 Land you will have to upgrade to Advanced or better to change
your call. - recent vanity rulings withstanding. Your 2X3 call is a
Group D call originally set up for the Novice group. The Group C calls
(N8xxx) were set up for General/Tech/Tech+. These Group C calls in 8
land (and most other regions) are exhausted. Soooo the FCC issues
the next lower Group. Bottom line..In your region 8, all call sign
issues or changes for General and below will be KC8Cxx.

Unwanted Advise: Go for thirteen. I am a Tech+, but have not broken
the 13 WPM barrier (probably my own lack of consistant effort laziness)

GL es 73 Dan KA1SZP


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:41 1996
From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #161 (for air through 5/3/96)
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 02:28:33 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #161 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's most up-to-the-minute
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 3-May:
-
1.   FCC Shifts Gears on Handling RFI in Consumer Devices
2.   Atlanta Olympics Does an About-face on Hand-held Ham Gear
3.   Commission On-target for Launch of Vanity Call Sign Program
4.   May Eclipse to Affect Operation of AO-13
5.   Dove-OSCAR 17 is Still Dead, but Some Progress Reported
6.   SAREX to Fly Aboard Shuttle Missions in June and August
7.   Spartan Inflatable Antenna to be Tested on STS-77
8.   "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
9.   Weekly Propagation Forecast with George Bowen, N2LQS
10.  Broadcasters Ask for Digital Copy Protection Legislation
11.  IC Approves New Motorola Cell Phone Encrytion Technology
12.  "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
13.  Amateur Radio to Fly Aboard Sheboygan Rocket Launch
14.  Special Event Station Calendar
15.  "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #976 from Los Angeles
16.  Willie Steuder, Noted Recording Engineer, Dies at 84
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EDT) and carried on VHF/UHF
repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.
Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
NOTICE:  Due to the dissolution of the "Tech Talk Network", the
service WILL NOT be carried on satellite.  Negotiations for the
donation or lease of satellite space continue in earnest.  When a
new agreement is reached, "This Week in Amateur Radio" will return
to satellite air.  Details will be posted as conditions warrant.
All affiliates are requested to contact the producers for further
information.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:42 1996
From: Robert Barron <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tracking down an old callsign
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:33:52 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm trying to find out some information on a callsign that the Univ. of
Texas Amateur Radio Club may have held in the early 1950's.  Some
information suggests that the club once held W5NLH.  Does anyone know a
good source for FCC information on callsigns from the 1950's?

Please reply via Email.  Thanks!

73,
Robert Barron, KA5WSS
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dale Holloway)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Tracking down an old callsign
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 14:37:44 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

You might contact the QCWA. They have all the old call books. 73.
Dale, NJ8X


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (StratoStar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian,rec.music.classical,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.progressive,rec.org.sca,rec.pets,rec.pets.cats,rec.pets.herp,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.skydiving,rec.sport.golf,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.skating.ice.figure,rec.sport.tennis,rec.travel.air,rec.woodworking,sci.astro,sci.med,sci.physics,sci.stat.math
Subject: Re: Turn $5 into $5,000! Read and see how!
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:41:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4l534h$[e-mail]>
References: <4k6nog$[e-mail]> <4k7cdv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4kchv7$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4l4or6$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Pat Spacek) wrote:

>Hugh Young ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: >(They have a very erudite 300 lb transvestite on call.
>: > Perhaps you can catch its attention.)
>: Sexist, weightist, heterosexist - why didn't you make "it" black and be
>: done with it?

> "Weightist"?
> God, it sucks to be living in the '90s.

Wassamatter!   you got somfink against the nineties huh?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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            never skydive again!"
God:       "Yeah right!"

[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Russ Roslewski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TV freq's
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 96 01:12:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4lp87i$[e-mail]>

Does anybody have (or know where I can get) a list of the TV frequencies, both

video and audio?  I used to have one, but have no idea what happened to it.

Thanks,
Russ  KI7FL


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From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:47 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: unitedkingdom radio society-background part3
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:44:35 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


To   : UKRS    @GBR
From : G0MAM
Date/Time : 09-Mar 12:20
Message #   : 80010
Subject     : on "Steering Panels"
Path:
!GB7CYM!GB7EYM!GB7HUL!GB7GBY!GB7OTH!GB7IDE!GB7OPC!GB7OIP!GB7ZPU!LW
BBBS!
      !GB7COV!GB7COV!GB7WAR!GB7PZT!GB7MAX!GB7SAM!GB7PMB!

From: G0MAM@GB7PMB.#28.GBR.EU
To  : UKRS@GBR

08 March 1996



   On "Steering Panels":
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   I read with some concern an early suggestion that we should set up
   a "Steering Panel" which, I noted, would meet and discuss the way
   forward.

   All I have done, to date, is to suggest that I would like an
   alternative to the RSGB and, so that fellow amateurs might help me
   decide the viability of forming one, I added an outline of how I
   thought we might begin.  I undertook to play a pivotal role if the
   idea found favour with enough of you, provided only that some
   essential safeguards were built-in in order to prevent the new
   society "going off the rails" as time passsed.

   Having outlined a proposed way forward, it seems to me that if
   potential members have aligned themselves with those proposals and
   offered their support, there is nothing to "steer".  It behoves
   those who take the idea forward to set in place that which has
   been agreed, not to meet in committee, discuss options and present
   something different, no matter how well intended.

   If we go ahead it would be my intention, therefore, to form the
   society along the lines I described, leaving it to the members
   themselves to determine directly what changes and refinements, if
   any, they wished to see.

   In the meantime, we have on obvious and urgent need of volunteers
   to accept responsibility as the fore-runners of "Elected Members",
   preferably one for each county and Scottish region.  Once those
   members have helped set in place a competent framework, and the
   new society is on its feet, we can then look to organising
   elections which will either confirm them in post or replace them.

   Between now and then, of course, we would also need to spread the
   news as far and wide as we can, so that as many colleagues as
   possible would have an option of joining us if they wished.  This
   is something which we can all be doing, even now.

   Following the bulletin which mentioned "Steering Panels", I have
   received only two messages which referred it and one of those was
   strongly against the idea.  If it is inappropriate of me to take
   such a view of panels and committees at this stage, please let me
   know. In the absence of any such comment, I shall continue with
   the arrangements I have made with regard to taking professional
   advice about the best way forward and report further when I have
   done so.

   Best wishes,

Greg G0MAM



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:48 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Garvin)
Subject: US Frequency allocations
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 18:06:48 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get a chart of the US Frequency allocations.
I need one that shows all allocations, not just amateur.

Thanks.


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: US Frequency allocations
Date: 26 Apr 1996 02:58:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4lpe4a$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Try 1-800-TC-OMAGA

I have a limited edition copy 4'x4'....
Not sure they are still around...?
Scan the browser....

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: US Frequency allocations
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:32:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4lqfvo$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (David Garvin) wrote:

>Does anyone know where I can get a chart of the US Frequency allocations.
>I need one that shows all allocations, not just amateur.

>Thanks.

        http://www.planet.net/fccindex/#FCC_rule   FCC Document Locator

        ftp.fcc.gov     But that's hard to find a lot of stuff.



s

Skid Schermerhorn - W1TTY   http://www.control.com/~skid/skid
East Sandwich               http://www.control.com/~skid/church
Massachusetts  02537        http://www.control.com/~skid/bookmark




From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Larry S)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Want: Cushcraft DX-120 2 Meter Antenna All or Parts
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:52:52 GMT
Message-ID: <3180f143.2423582@news>

I am in need of parts and pieces of the CushCraft DX-120
2 meter antenna. Would like to find some complete antennas
still in the box, but can use parts and pieces, let me know
what you have.   Thanks!
Larry   WA5NTF


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:51 1996
From: William Becks <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted: Alpha 77 Schematic
Date: 23 Apr 1996 02:12:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4lhe9m$[e-mail]>

Wanted: Alpha 77 Schematic...   I am rebuilding an old Alpha 77 linear
amplifier, SN 2006.  I need the correct schematic drawing for this unit.

It was built around 1972 in Florida....   Key production points are
point to point wiring of the grid over current and antenna input relays
in the bottom of the PA compartment.  Later version had a circuit board
in the bottom of the PA compartment with the relays as described above
along with the cathode circuit zener diode.

Please call collect at 906-484-2088 evenings, or e-mail to me at the
following address: [e-mail]


I will pay for reproduction costs and mailing plus you time!

Tnx,

William G. Becks, KE8KB





From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:52 1996
From: GEORGE LIEPINS <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Alpha 77 Schematic
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:45:46 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4lhe9m$[e-mail]>

William Becks wrote:
>
> Wanted: Alpha 77 Schematic...   I am rebuilding an old Alpha 77 linear
> amplifier, SN 2006.  I need the correct schematic drawing for this unit.
>
> It was built around 1972 in Florida....   Key production points are
> point to point wiring of the grid over current and antenna input relays
> in the bottom of the PA compartment.  Later version had a circuit board
> in the bottom of the PA compartment with the relays as described above
> along with the cathode circuit zener diode.
>
> Please call collect at 906-484-2088 evenings, or e-mail to me at the
> following address: [e-mail]
>
> I will pay for reproduction costs and mailing plus you time!
>
> Tnx,
>
> William G. Becks, KE8KB

Try to contact ETO.  Their address is Ehrhorn Technological Operations,
Inc., 4975 N. 30th Street, Colorado Springs, CO 80919.  Their phone
number should be in the QST magazine.  They may even have a www home
page by now.

73, George, KE4HW



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:53 1996
From: Saad Mahaini <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB / Finals Unit Board for TS930SAT
Date: 24 Apr 1996 18:33:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4lls57$[e-mail]>

Please send me direct email with condition and asking price,
if you have a surplus operational Finals board for the Knwd
TS930 radio.

Tnx, Saad


From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jack Kovar  KE0AX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB:Dual band FM amp for HT.
Date: 26 Apr 1996 04:30:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4lpjgd$[e-mail]>

        I would like to find a amp for $150 or less thanks.

                                                Jack
                                                [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Apr 28 13:42:55 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] ("Stephen Walters")
Subject: Yaesu FT101z mk2 radio for sale.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 06:27:41 GMT

HF 100watt Base station SSB/CW transceiver for sale.

This is a bargain, an ideal first or second HF TX/RX.

100watt, CW/SSB (None of this FM twaddle, 160m-10m, in/output for
transverter, Rugged and reliable Valve 100watt PA, which is adjustable
for output down to QRP), User Manual. Excellent condition. This radio has
had only one mod, a switch to turn off the two 6146 PA valves for QRP
operation. Runs off 240v mains via integral PSU.

250ukp for this lovely Yaesu Ft101z Mark2.

Enquiries to Steve Walters G7VFY 0956-544202


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:44:53 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Lui)
Subject: Re: "CB radio" repeater, with dirty words, why not off the air?
Message-ID: <lui-2604962105070001@192.0.2.1>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:04:16 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Robert Casey)
wrote:

> Stumbled across a repeater in LA on 147.435 MHz, sounds worse than CB
> (if that is possible).  Routine use of the "F" word, "S" word, the
> "A--hole" word, and such similar stuff I would think think wouldn't
> pass "community standards" (as the FCC says).   Also, noone ever
> seems to do any legal callsign IDs
> (not quite, the few people IDing, only a few but there are some, seem to
> not use the dirty words).    People jamming each other every
> so often.
>
> If I was the trustee, I'd just shut this machine down, or use the repeater f
or
> a packet BBS machine or something.
>
> I use dirty words off the air as much as anyone else does, but not
> ON THE AIR.  Guess I don't like to see radio equipment to be abused.

Yeah, I was really surprised when I listened to this repeater too. I
programmed just about all of the repeaters in a card I picked up at Jun's
Electronics. Took me about a month to abandon 2m and join a closed 70cm
system. I wonder why this repeater is still going. Perhaps it's a place
for these hams to hang out and not bother anyone else. Maybe one of the
people involved is the repeater trustee!

On 2m, I tried the local repeaters and was jammed repeatly. I guess my
KF... callsign indicates I'm a new Ham and probably a no-code Tech (which
I am) and the old timers immediately don't like me. I've had better
experiences using my CB when I was back in Elementary School!

On our 70cm closed system, there a control operator monitoring the
repeater most of the day who doesn't hesitate shutting down the repeater
if any unidentified stations transmit or anyone messes around.

Stephen
KF6BTE


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:44:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (robert bowman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 2 Meter & Motorcycling
Date: 29 Apr 1996 02:25:08 GMT
Message-ID: <4m19a4$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Randy Zabarsky) say
s:
>
>I am wondering if anyone uses 2 meters while motorcyling?

the subject gets coverage every now and then. if you can find April 94's
73, its on the front cover. maybe out of date, but the contact for the
MARC, the Motorcycle Amateur Radio Club, is Ray Davis, 3 Lindberg, Irvine, CA
[phone]. the article mentions the Comet ML-7 speaker/mike,
the Radio Shack suction cup rubber duck mount. i've run with a j-pole
and ht on my bicycle, but frankly, i've got other things to do on my
motorcycle. i've seen some two wheel winnebagos with 2-meter, hf, and
probably a tv.


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:44:55 1996
From: Kevin Bednar <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Alinco Mods
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:38:43 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Could anyone point me to where I could find mods for an Alinco
DJ-G5 dual-band ht? Thanks in advance.

Kevin Bednar
KB2YPU


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:44:56 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Allignment for a GE Mastr II
Date: 27 Apr 1996 13:56:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4lt91v$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Ray Matthews <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Does anybody have the instructions for realligning a Mastr II
>for the ham bands that only requires simple test gear? Any of
>the allignment procedures that I have seen so far have required
>specific GE test sets just for this purpose.

Actually not.  The GE Master II alignment sheets specifically say
that you can use a 20,000 ohms-per-Volt multimeter in place of the
test set.  That's what I use.

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:44:57 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio? I don't know anymore...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4leqnk$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:11:53 GMT

In article <4leqnk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Emmett Hoops) write
s:
>I used to have a license back in the early '70s when I was a teenager.
>I stayed up late banging out ten wpm to anyone who would listen.  Back
>then I was WN2RRM, and I thought it was the neatest thing in the
>world. What I really wanted from radio was the ability to chat with
>people from all over the world -- just because.  The world was an
>interesting place then, and it still is.
>A few years ago, I got my novice license again.  I'm now KB2NWJ, but
>I've never used my privileges.  I still have my Yaesu FT-DX 560, and
>it still works.  I know my code, up to 20 wpm (I still think code is
>cool.)  Trouble is, I've discovered that the equipment is so
>incredibly expensive now, that I'd have to sell a daughter or two to
>upgrade.  Besides, I have IRC, which is precisely what I wanted from
>Amateur Radio to begin with.
>So tell me, why should I go to all that expense just so I can do in
>code what I do with a keyboard?
>Where's the fun in radio, now that so many people use computers to do
>the code translation for them?
>I long for the days of 15 meter nights and 80 meter days; when a
>Technician was unusual; when  a faint signal might just mean Lithuania
>-- ahh, yes, but I was talking to someone in Lithuania last night on
>IRC.
>So, fellow amateurs, what's out there that ain't in here?  And is it
>really worth such a big chunk of my income?

Emmett, new radios are cheaper today than they ever have been (factoring
in inflation), and offer more features than ever before. However, you
don't need a new radio to do amateur radio. Your old one still works,
and if you no longer like it, other older radios are available at very
low cost to replace it. Or you can still build your own, you know.
There's no reason you can't get on the air for less money than a web
cruising PC costs. Cost is a red herring when comparing amateur radio
and the internet.

The thing that makes amateur radio interesting is that you are in
control of the signal transport, not some faceless corporate provider
of network services. You can explore that transport at levels which
would get you thrown in jail as a hacker if you tried it on the provider
corporation's network. Amateur radio is an experimental service, and
what you're experimenting with is the raw fabric of Nature, probing it
with electromagnetic waves in order to spoof it into giving you a
"free" call. It's better than anything a blue boxer can do. You get
to choose the protocol, you get to choose the path, you get to hack
the interfaces, and all with the blessing of the government, rather
than being pursued by the phone police for your phreaking.

If you're just a *user*, then IRC, or CB, or the telephone is what
you need. But if you're more interested in the why and how, with
tinkering with the guts rather than just in using the service,
then amateur radio is where you belong.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:44:58 1996
From: cc wynn <wyn>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Canadian Callsign Server?
Date: 28 Apr 1996 21:05:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4m0mjd$[e-mail]>

Is there a Canadian Callsign Server accessible through the internet
with search facilities like those in the US?

73,
Clay N4AOX




From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:44:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Check out this article
Date: 28 Apr 1996 04:10:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lur36$[e-mail]>
References: <4luhkr$[e-mail]>

>The problem turns
>out to be a legal one: once that barn door is open towards easing of
>a requirement, any attempt to return to former standards generally
>will attract a cry of "discrimination," "elitism," and eventually,
>a lawsuit. That's one major pitfall to restoring theory exams in this
>country.

My guess is that it will soon be a legal issue if the code requirements
are NOT eased.  The current policy is most definitely discriminatory, as
there is no convincing legal reason to continue requiring Morse code
knowledge as a condition of obtaining an amateur radio license with full
privileges in this day and age.  If the code requirements aren't eased,
and ultimately removed, the issue will eventually be decided in the
courts.

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:00 1996
From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Check out this article
Date: 28 Apr 1996 14:02:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4lvtq6$[e-mail]>


In response to Drew Durigan, who writes:

>My guess is that it will soon be a legal issue if the code requirements
>are not eased.

If that is the best reply you can come up with, knowing that not even
ORACLE would agree to a slow code license, and that ARRL's First VP
doesn't even believe amateur radio need be a technical hobby, then both
you and amateur radio are in trouble. For we will not be speaking of
amateur radio any longer. That's because your argument regarding
requirements can logically extend well beyond Morse Code: The same argument
you advanced can be extended from technical theory requirements,
to courses in high school and college that one takes but never uses again.
(The fact that there are those at Extra Class who don't know basic electronics
quite conclusively shows that knowledge of how things work is not necessary
for an Amateur License). What you suggest, Drew, is Anarchy, not Amateur Radio
.

>The current policy is most definitely discriminatory, as there is no convinci
ng
>reason to continue Morse....

As Jack Palance said in the movie Shane, "Prove it." One can argue all the
way down the line, from Amateur to Zoology, that exam standards of any
kind are, in the limit, discriminatory. But proving it will ultimately be very
difficult, because the opinion is based on nothing more than opinion, not
fact. In addition, getting in the door by the back door, as you suggest, will
have no other effect than to ultimately open the flood gates to most every
other licensing process in all other endeavors, besides Amateur Radio.
I well note that this "discriminatory" tactic is already  in full force in
the country's educational system. One not need be a genius to recognize
that exercise has been devastating to the country. Which may explain
why, legal considerations aside, the mayors of big cities (the most recent
one being New York) has called for a no-holds-barred return to standards.
Students don't pass tests don't graduate. That's an extreme case of mayoral
backlash, and it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

In the last reckoning, what your statement  simply  says, in total, is that
amateur radio is a constitutional right. A few others are saying
the same. But should amateur radio become such, we will no longer have
amateur radio. We will have a personal radio service, which many already
argue (and with good reason) is already here. That's all fine and good,
assuming ARRL and FCC officially declare the new purposes and goals of the
Amateur Service. But de-facto deregulation, as I've said before, is
what is creating Amateur backlash now, the kind of excitement that
apparently frightens you.

Regards,
Vince, WB2EZG




From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:02 1996
From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Check out this article
Date: 28 Apr 1996 01:28:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4luhkr$[e-mail]>


In response to Drew Durigan:
Far from being a great article, the CQ VHF piece represents nothing more
than an extention of Dick Ross' belief that we should have a slow code
license, with editor Rich Moseson naturally supporting that view. I'm also
attempting to confirm the report that ARRL First VP Steve Mendelsohn has
truly chimed in. That's well to be expected, but it must also be remembered th
at VP
Mendelsohn does not even believe amateur radio need be a technical hobby!
(see previously posted quote of his Ham Expo speech in Long Island,
New York on 10 Nov 1990). Which also brings the interesting question
of how his personal views would impact on the special committee ARRL
President Stafford has convened to discuss the no-code issue in a seemingly
impartial atmosphere.

It should also be well noted that ORACLE, the 6-man team that first placed
thoughts of an international HF no-code license in the minds of some
amateurs, would be against the CQ "editorial," as they stated in
Westlink Report, 27 October 1994, page 6:

"We (ORACLE)  are firmly against the lowering of standards, and would
not support the "slow code" lobby as that is tantamount to a LOWERING
OF STANDARDS. We want to hold standards, and also want new tests
or examinations that are equally as challenging as the existing code
tests..."
"USA amateurs should be aware that the technical examinations in other
countries...have not been lowered in standard...Examination questions
are not part of a published pool...But if any amateur examination system
could be said to have been 'dumbed down,' then the current USA
methodology is a candidate. But presumably it could be 'undumbed'
if there was a need."

The last sentence, by the way, also exposes the flaw in ORACLE's
argument for a no-code license in this country. Exams can be 'undumbed,' at
least not in the US. Once a deregulatory policy is established, returning to t
he
former policy, i.e., restoring standards, is virtually impossible, and no majo
r
decision-making policy concerning the Amateur Radio Service has
EVER been made along those lines in this country. The problem turns
out to be a legal one: once that barn door is open towards easing of
a requirement, any attempt to return to former standards generally
will attract a cry of "discrimination," "elitism," and eventually,
a lawsuit. That's one major pitfall to restoring theory exams in this
country. And since theory exams won't be restored, we can't
'undumb' the exams in the U.S.

Before the shortsighted proposal for a slow code license takes hold,
amateurs would do well to understand what benefits will be lost if
the Morse requirements are eased. The issue, again, has absolutely
nothing to do with the Morse Code as a mode, and ORACLE obviously
understands that which amateurs here do not understand! Here,
in the U.S., the issue has to do with easing of requirements,
and economic factors. But as we have eased requirements, we have
lost precious spectrum (see Amateur Radio Spectrum Protection Act
initiated by ARRL, 1989). Indeed, amateurs would do well to
understand the history of the entire issue before being duped into
taking a step in any direction. Or allowing any committee to lead
them down the garden path.

Regards,
Vince, WB2EZG
(Life Member, ARRL)

P.S. If the results of a recent poll in an ARRL Division are to be believed, t
wo out of
every three amateurs believe Morse Code requirements should be either RETAINED
or made tougher! Thus, amateurs again would do well not to believe ANYTHING un
til
some official documentation arrives to support it. Ultimately, a binding refer
endum would be
the idea way to settle this issue. The ARRL, however, does not appear too anxi
ous
to conduct such a poll. Failure to do that, however, is at odds with their sta
tement
that WE are the ARRL.


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Check out this article...
Date: 28 Apr 1996 04:04:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4luqo5$[e-mail]>
References: <4ltu67$[e-mail]> <4lukig$[e-mail]>

>>The reason for this, of course, is
>>so they can keep their own little "private club" on the HF bands and
keep
>>others from using the frequencies.
>
>Anything that keeps people like you off the radio can't be all that
>bad.

To quote your own phrase..."for the N-th time", I passed a code test.  It
doesn't keep me off the radio, much to your dismay.  It does, however,
keep several qualified would-be amateurs from getting their licenses
since they cannot see any possible reason for investing the time and
energy in learning an obsolete mode of communication like Morse code.
Just doesn't make any sense in the digital age.

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (robert bowman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Check out this article...
Date: 28 Apr 1996 16:56:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4m080i$[e-mail]>
References: <4ltu67$[e-mail]>

In article <4ltu67$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew
Durigan) says:
>This article tells it like it is, and asks the hard questions...like why,
>in this day and age, are 13-20 WPM code speeds still required for
>obtaining Amateur radio licenses?  It goes on to answer the question with
>the true and correct answer: because YE OLDE FAHRTZ, which is where the
>large majority of the ARRL's operating budget comes from, has convinced
>them to maintain a pro-code stance.

i bought a stack of 1988 and 1989 QSTs at a hamfest yesterday. its
interesting, in retrospect, to read the hemming and hawing, and finally
the grudging admission that a no-code might be a *good thing*.

also, imho, is the 'dumbing down' that QST has underwent since the
no-code revolution. do no-code techs really need instruction to turn
their HTs on, or does the ARRL underestimate the intelligence of anyone
who doesn't want to clutter their brain cells with didahs?



From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ltu67$[e-mail]> <4lukig$[e-mail]><4luqo5$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:33:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Check out this article...

Most people consider the code test you passed to be practically
"no code".  Nevertheless, code does not keep those you were
speaking about from getting their license.  The simply do not want
it badly enough to endure learning the code or perhaps memorizing
the answers to the questions for Tech.

I still think, getting your license and working from within the
Amateur Service to eliminate the requirement(s) you don't agree
with, is far more impressive than not.





>To quote your own phrase..."for the N-th time", I passed a code test.  It
>doesn't keep me off the radio, much to your dismay.  It does, however,
>keep several qualified would-be amateurs from getting their licenses
>since they cannot see any possible reason for investing the time and
>energy in learning an obsolete mode of communication like Morse code.
>Just doesn't make any sense in the digital age.
>
>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
> KF4DDM

>



From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:06 1996
From: Denise Lynn Moquin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CLIP ART FOR NEWSLETTER
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 00:07:04 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, Mark Pettigrew wrote:

> jim boyer wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone help me locate a source for clip art of the Ham Radio type? My
> > DTP can use PCX, TIFF, BMP, WMF and a few others. Any help would be
> > appreciated.
>
> The only one I know of is at
>
> http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/hamclip.htm
>
> Best wishes
>
> Mark
> G0WLR

This site really helped me. I was writing an article on ham radio for
one of my classes at college and was looking for some clip art dealing
with amateur radio to put in it.

73,
Denise Lynn  N1JBR




From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:08 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Code requirement relaxed WAS: Selling out of ham radio
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <4l65ii$[e-mail]> <4l8ejs$[e-mail]> <4l8muf$[e-mail]> <4lcjt7$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 13:44:27 GMT

In article <4lcjt7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (M
ichael P. Deignan) writes:
>In article <4l8muf$[e-mail]>,
>       Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>But why bother?  What significance does Morse Code have to furthering
>>communications technology in 1996?
>
>What significance does single side-band have to furthering communications
>technology in 1996? Or FM for that matter?

Well, single sideband technique is ideal for M-ary encodings, and FM
is just another word for FSK, which still has some things to offer
that are superior to OOK. Neither does much in itself to further
communications technology, but they're still useful to enable such
technological advances. And of course, neither requires passing a
separate pass/fail speed test in order to utilize other methods of
communications which *are* at the SOTA.

Note too that while OOK is primitive compared to other modulation
techniques, it can be improved by using encodings other than Morse.
Convolution encoders, Viterbi decoding, Reed-Solomon FEC, etc, can
all be applied to OOK, and offer substantial improvements over Morse.
They work even better, of course, if a modulation superior to OOK is
utilized.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:09 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQ DX, ham superiority
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 07:43:12 -0400
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Who the hell am I to call CQDX. I have been a ham for over 34 years and
in 28 of those I could only afford crummy rigs and antennas. There were
so many stations I could have worked (and called) if they were not
calling CQDX. I have NEVER called CQDX, although today I am much better
equiped. Many times when I call CQ I would prefer DX, who am I to
EXCLUDE anyone. If someone wants to talk to me who am I to be selective?
When my beam is headed towards DX and I get a domestic call it is
usually from a station using a dipole, remember all hams are not "Big guns."
And in reality to be a "real man" is not predicated on how much money
you have. When you call CQDX, think about what you are really saying
(calling anyone but no Americans need answer).










From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (robert bowman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber
Date: 29 Apr 1996 02:30:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4m19kh$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> says:
>Clear means you are leaving the air, listening means you are staying.

i believe they mean they are auditors in the church of scientology.


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Teacherjh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber
Date: 28 Apr 1996 10:34:35 -0400
Message-ID: <4lvvlr$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Teacherjh)

>>
I hear hams say "clear and listening." Why would anybody say that?
Clear means you are leaving the air, listening means you are staying.
Which is it?
<<
Yeah.. it does sound dumb... but it could be that the operator changed his
mind... and decided to stick around.  Even more likely, "clear" is short
for "clear WITH xxx"  (i.e. done with the QSO he was having) and
"listening" means "sticking around for another conversation.

"clear" doesn't always mean leaving the air.

Jose    KD1SB


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nick Lansley G1KZI)
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: famous hams
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:03:23 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

>List of 'famous' hams

Please can I apply to be famous. My callsign is G1KZI. Thanks.
      <<< Nick Lansley G1KZI >>>

-----------------------------------------------------
Home:   http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/nicholas_lansley
E-mail: [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Maurice Andries)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Force12 info please!!
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:04:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4m2smm$[e-mail]>

Hi all,

A non-connected friend of mine would like info about the Force 12 antennas
type: 5BA and 4BA.
If you have this info or have such an antenna, I would like to know what you
think of it. How does it perform??

Thanks a lot for answering (pefer e-mail).


Just my 2 cents, Your mileage may vary
Opinions are my own (most of the time).

73 de Maurice, [e-mail] (internet)
               ON4BAM@ON6AR.#AN.BEL.EU
               http://user.glo.be/~mauricea (Ham links and station info)




From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:13 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Wells)
Subject: Re: HF  Digital BBS/Networks ?
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:23:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4m061g$[e-mail]>
References: <4lt747$[e-mail]>

In article <4lt747$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
>A ham friend of mine will be sailing in the Carribbean for a few
>years. She is a new General class and has an HF transceiver. She is
>thinking about getting a TNC and  wants to be able to send and receive
>messages to an HF digital node.
>
>The objective is to have the equivalent of e-mail contact with ham
>friends while sailng.
>
>I have heard about  stations that operate on HF and operate like a
>bulletin-board-system. They are on most of the time and will store and
>forward messages. Does anyone have any references to this such as
>frequencies, callsigns, and protocols used?
>
>73,
>Paul Ferguson
>[e-mail]
>

Paul,
Checkout http://www.teleport.com/~moana.

Dave KD6TO


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Davidtork)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HTX-202
Date: 28 Apr 1996 23:14:15 -0400
Message-ID: <4m1c67$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Davidtork)

I'm a recently got my Tech. licence.  I also couldn't afford much of a
"rig".  So I went out and bought the Radio Shack HTX-202.  Can someone
tell me how long a battery should last?  I haven't been doing much more
then listening and it seems the battery light goes on after about 30
min.'s or less.  It takes ten hours to charge.  I think you should be able
to use the battery longer.  Is this normal with all HT's, is it beacuse
it's a Radio Shack, or do I have a bad battery?

Thank you for any help.

David
KF6DGN


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:15 1996
From: Asmartuser <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Hy-gain DX88 questions
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:48:15 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anyone can tell me experiencies with this kind of antenna?
What about the expansion kit for 160 m.?

Any suggestion will be appreciated.



73,
IZ2ADI, Maurizio


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:16 1996
From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I want out of boredom, buy me out.
Date: 28 Apr 1996 14:01:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4lvtod$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>                         C O M P L E T E  S T A T I O N
>
>I am selling my entire station as one package. See it, test it, buy
it.
>
>Icom 751 with CW filters, RC-10 keypad,
>
>Icom 2KL Solid state 5OO watt amplifier
>
>Icom AT-500 automatic tuner
>
>Cushcraft A3 Beam
>
>Alliance Ham rotor
>
>40 foot crank up tower
>
>$3000 cash and I do mean cash. It all works and it is all connected.
>
>I am bored with the hobby.
>
>


Burt,

If you offered all your packet gear and your computer tied to
irrevokable contract to never post again on any media I suspect we
could generate a bunch of cash quite quickly. Most of us are rather
bored by the same lame stupid insults repeated over and over and over.
Gosh Burt does this mean you're, shudder, boring.


            Jerry



From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:17 1996
From: Ben Hastings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: icom mod
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 12:14:37 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am looking for a mod for an Icom-Z1A or an Icom-W31A (Which I
believe has the same circuit as the Z1A).  If anyone has a keypad (such
as a crossband repeater), TX, or Sensetivity(for ext. RX) mod please send
it to me via E-mail.
                        Thanks,
--
                        Ben Hastings KC8DBW
                        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:18 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Lambda
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 07:38:44 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4lr9oh$[e-mail]>

> Sexual preference is not a "Club" I would be happy to QSO with any
>amateur including one from LAMBDA. I do however ask, that if you want
>to be gay, be gay and SHUT UP about it. I am a hetero sexual with wife
>and three boys. Should I join a heterosexual amateur radio club? Should
>I wear a pin thats says "Straight and proud of it!" Should I march in
>the straight parade? I don't think so. Your sexual preference is a
>private matter and unless I ask you about it, trust me, I don't want to
>know.

That reminds me of the Black Caucus in Congress.  How about a White Caucus,
or in the USAF we had the Black-American of the year, yet there was never a
White-American of the year.  Later they changed it to African-American of
the year, and I guess you don't have to be Black anymore, as there are a lot
of White South Aficans who after coming to America, refer to themselves as
African-American...

--
Steve Sampson
mailto:[e-mail]
http://swissnet.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x63BA9AF9
"I ain't no stinking hyphenated-American..."


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs.lists,
Subject: LATEST HAM WEB/WWW SITES & PAGES
Date: 26 Apr 1996 15:49:02 GMT
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From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:20 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MS sekeds wanted - EU
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:09:37 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello,

OH6MAZ is interested to make skeds on VHF MS CW during
major meteor showers. 4CX350 amplifier and 2*15el QueDee.
For skeds, pse mail  [e-mail]

rgs,
Hannu/OH6MAZ


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (HAMKB8UUM)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Packet Satellites
Date: 28 Apr 1996 14:10:18 -0400
Message-ID: <4m0caa$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (HAMKB8UUM)

 Is there anyone out there who has a list or knows where I could obtain a
list of Packet satellites that are used to forward packet mail over long
distances. Thank you very much for your help I really appreciate it, 73
and good DXing!!!!

                                        Geoff KB8UUM

E-mail me pse at: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:22 1996
From: Jim Sollows <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE: Repeater list for VE3?
Date: 28 Apr 1996 03:08:06 GMT
Message-ID: <01bb34af.ece6f220$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>


On Saturday, April 20, 1996, Abraham Stavsky wrote...
>
> Anyone have/know where I can get one?
> Much obliged!
> KE6OCM
> --

How about the ARRL Repeater Book? Look in the section for Ontario they are
all there.




From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: SATELLIT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:27:10 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Walter Girardi <[e-mail]> writes
:
>Hi All
>i just have the license and i would likw to work with satelits.
>Can you help me?
>Thanks in advance.
>IW3HNS WALTER <[e-mail]>

You'll likely get more response over on the rec.radio.amateur.space
newsgroup, but first tell us which satellites you want to work. Tell
us whether you want to do digital or analog, voice or data, and then
we can help you more efficiently. There are LEO and high orbit satellites,
digital and analog satellites, FM, SSB, CW, FSK, and PSK operating modes,
and different setups are needed to operate different ones.

The easiest satellite is MIR, and you only need a 2m FM rig to talk
to the cosmonauts, and an ordinary TNC to access their BBS. Other
easysats are AO-27 which requires a FM dualbander, or the Russian
Mode A birds which require a 2m transmitter and a HF receiver. Or
there are the pacsats, which require 2m and 70cm radios and modems.
All of these can be worked with simple antennas and relatively
low power. Then there are the high orbit satellites which require
tracking antennas and a touch more power to work efficiently. With
them you can use SSB voice, CW, SSTV, or one of the more efficient
digital modes. The advantage of the high orbit satellites is a much
larger footprint, meaning you can have realtime QSOs with people
over nearly a hemisphere. The LEOs limit realtime QSOs to a much
smaller area due to their reduced footprint, though store and forward
techniques on the pacsats still give you global messaging in non-realtime.

So what is it you want to do?

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:25 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Suggest Digital Requirement Instead Of CW
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4ldta6$[e-mail]> <4ligdb$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:44:03 GMT

In article <4ligdb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mi
chael P. Deignan) writes:
>In article <4ldta6$[e-mail]>,
>       Alan Gollom <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Digital is the wave of the future.  That's where all the growth is now.  Jus
t
>>look at the Internet.  Since digital is the growing technology of the day,
>>why not incorporate that into the ham radio theory tests for those who
>>would rather not do CW.
>>
>>In order for us to maintain the frequency allocations we now have, the
>>number of new hams must keep increasing.  Rather than discourage them
>>from the hobby by requiring knowledge of old technology, why not
>>encourage them by learning the newest and fastest growing technology
>>of the day.  Help them realize that the Internet is not the only way to
>>communicate with others around the world.  Let them see the wonderful
>>blend of computer technology and ham radio.
>
>To be usable, digital modes require more bandwidth for higher transfer
>speeds.

Surprisingly little more, and considering the throughput improvement,
effectively less. For example, Clover gives you 750 bps in a 500 Hz
channel. That's equivalent to a 1125 WPM Morse signal, and *that* would
occupy 4.6875 kHz (Bn=WPM*K/1.2).

>How much high-speed digital traffic can HF support?

Obviously quite a bit more than can be passed on CW in the same
bandwidth.

>VHF and above is better suited for digital-oriented traffic.

Not necessarily. While higher baud can be supported at VHF+, the
line of sight limitations mean that to span the same distance
many additional relay nodes are required. And each relay node
effectively halves the baud and doubles the latency. So it doesn't
take very many relay hops before using HF is more efficient.

For the *local area*, VHF+ is superior. But once the message must
leave the local area, HF is still the better choice. (Of course
there's the satellite option too, and it is often a viable alternative
to HF.) If all you need is to cruise the local MAN, then VHF+ serves
fine, but if you want range comparable to the global internet, you
need HF.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:26 1996
From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Trivia #1
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 96 18:31:20 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Hans Brakob" writes:

> There is, however, at least one situation in which you must
> keep a log of your operation. What is this situation?

Is it when your expedition has promised 10,000 QSL cards or just when using
spread spectrum?

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:26 1996
From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Trivia #1
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 20:49:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4m0llt$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Hans Brakob) wrote:

>
>Most of you know that the FCC relaxed the rules regarding
>logs in the Amateur Service several years ago.
>
>There is, however, at least one situation in which you must
>keep a log of your operation. What is this situation?
>
>73, de Hans, K0HB

When your station is ,operated by another amateur.

Uncle Brian  VK6BQN





From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:27 1996
From: Phil Manning <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: unitedkingdom radio society-background part 1
Date: 29 Apr 1996 17:31:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4m2ud2$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Hear Hear Mike.....what a load of old rubbish, and thats before part 2 and 3.

Who is Bert at SkyPilot? Very anonymous is'nt it, to shy to use a recognised
name, I wonder why?

Phil G1LKJ



From [e-mail] Mon Apr 29 16:45:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (David L. Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What is a vendolyzer???
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:31:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4m1g5d$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]


In a recent visit to a SK's basement I ran across an old piece of test
equipment called a "Vendolyzer".   Does anybody know what this is?

The test piece is very old and was probably used in the broadcast
industry.

73, Dave Thompson K4JRB
[e-mail]