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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 1 Mar 1996 09:42:46 -0500
Message-ID: <4h72d6$[e-mail]>
References: <orbelld-2902960846570001@204.41.1.203> <4h4fuc$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
<snip>

: As I understand the history of the law, it was introduced at the time
: when the Walkman was new, and was intended primarily to prevent people
: from driving around wearing Walkman headsets and thus not able to hear
: warning sounds.

<snip>

   The absurdity of this, of course, is that in a modern sedan with the
windows closed and the radio turned on, the driver will hear even less
than if he had full closure double earphones.

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:39:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4hevbd$[e-mail]>


So, what is the difference between a handheld telephone and a
handy-talkie ( for purposes of this discussion.

They seem the same risk to me.

Jack  VE3EED /W7
--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:37 1996
From: Steve Butler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:47:32 -0800
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960305104534.29234D-100000@seatimes>
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <4hdbpb$[e-mail]>


On 3 Mar 1996, Steve - KF2TI wrote:
> >  : from driving around wearing Walkman headsets and thus not able to hear
> >  : warning sounds.
> >
> >     The absurdity of this, of course, is that in a modern sedan with the
> >  windows closed and the radio turned on, the driver will hear even less
> >  than if he had full closure double earphones.
> >
>
> Also affects those who have 1 earpiece boom/mike headsets
>

One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive.  Certainly they should be
required to hear before getting a license!

<<I supose our legal representatives haven't thought about that one yet>>


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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 17:27:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4hkhel$[e-mail]>
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <4hdbpb$[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.91.960305104534.29234D-100000@seatimes>

Steve Butler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive.  Certainly they should be
>required to hear before getting a license!

><<I supose our legal representatives haven't thought about that one yet>>

Our hearing impared friends on the highways don't bother me as much as
those who cannot see or are totally oblivious to anyone else on the
road.

TTUL
Gary





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:39 1996
From: nickb@alpine (Nicholas Barbieri)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 6 Mar 1996 14:51:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4hk8pn$[e-mail]>
References: <4hdbpb$[e-mail]> <4hg8bh$[e-mail]> <4hhc3e$[e-mail]>

In California at least, dual speaker earphones are banned because they
focus the attention of the driver away from driving, in addition to
blocking out sirens, etc.  I notice, however, that our local firemen wear
aircraft headsets that are designed to block out sirens and diesel engine
noise when they are driving.

Does anybody know what the regs are with regard to motorcycle headsets?
I've seen dual speaker helmet sets in the local bike shops, but didn't know
if they're legal.  How would a cop know the difference?  Can a person be
stopped if he's wearing a walkman headset?  (CA drivers can be stopped
for not wearing a seatbelt.)

--
Nick Barbieri
Texas Instruments
ASIC Engineering
email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 4 Mar 1996 21:19:29 -0500
Message-ID: <4hg8bh$[e-mail]>
References: <4hdbpb$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)

It seems to me that deaf persons are allowed to drive.

I have questioned law-enforcement types in 2 far-apart jurisdictions where
I have lived, and one answer was "no restriction" on headsets, while the
other was "one ear must be uncovered".  Therefore, I think that it is safe
to assume that the law varies from one state to the next.

Just a reminder on a topic brought up earlier in this thread - regardless
of local or state laws regarding scanners in vehicles, the FCC has ruled
that licensed amateur radio operators are exempt from any such laws.

73 de Jim KD1YV



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:41 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hdbpb$[e-mail]> <4hg8bh$[e-mail]> <4hhc3e$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:21:17 GMT

Christopher K Greenhalgh ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Besides, noise in its self is somewhat distracting...how many of you
: have turned down your radio when looking for an address?   :)

With the cars of today being designed to shut out most of the noise
originating outside the vehicle, and the fact that most of us have the radio
or a CD playing while we drive, the law seems a bit contradictory.  I have
had emergency vehicles approach from the rear or from a side street, and
they were "right on top" of me before I noticed them, as a result.

With the long commutes into and out of LA each weekday, there are a lot of
stories about what some people do while driving.  The
makeup-in-the-rear-view-mirror stories are old hat, when compared with
shaving, reading a book or newspaper, etc.  The best one I heard was the
woman who was changing from her business attire to her workout clothes while
driving; a definite attention-grabber!

Jim - KF6CR
San Bernardino, CA


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 5 Mar 1996 20:53:35 -0500
Message-ID: <4hir6v$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)

From what I have seen, the problem with many cell-phone drivers is that
they cannot concentrate on one thing at a time for more than 2 minutes,
much less walking and chewing gum, or driving at 75 mph in
bumper-to-bumper rush-hour traffic and talking to their biggest
client/lover/enemy.

Perhaps drivers should be subjected to an intelligence test :-)

73 de Jim KD1YV





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (RKram51)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: 3/3/96 Ham Radio & More on 5.065mhz
Date: 4 Mar 1996 23:33:30 -0500
Message-ID: <4hgg6q$[e-mail]>
References: <4h9v9t$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (RKram51)

Oh boy!  I hope the professor gives us some more details on all the
expensive
stuff he owns again!  Your listeners can really identify with that.  And
everyone
loves his pretentious attitude.  Now he can be a boor worldwide!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: 3/3/96 Ham Radio & More on 5.065mhz
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 17:08:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4h9v9t$[e-mail]>

If all goes as planned, the Ham Radio & More Show will be broadcast live this
sunday, 3/3/96, on WWCR, on 5.065mhz, at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc.

The producers of the show wish to thank WWCR Shortwave for their support on
the airing of the show.

Be aware that with shortwave radio, frequencies are known to change often, so
always check other frequencies if the show is not on 5.065. Check 7.435 and
9.475.

Also, check out our home pages as listed below courtesy of BARC (Scott
Ehrlich) and our RealAudio page, courtesy of TAPR (Greg Jones).

Give us a call on the live show.......this sunday is RagChew Sunday with Host
Len Winkler, KB7LPW, and ....The Professor, Ned Stearns AA7A. The toll
free United States number is 1-800-293-5366 and worldwide at 1-602-230-2755.

73,
Len



Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html

The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country.

The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon
days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160.
LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc

Support "WOG". Written only General!!!






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: [tv station] attacks ham
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 14:18:02 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Bruce Miller wrote:

>      You know, this is the kind of sleazy, sensationalist, dishonest
> reporting ... that gets my goat about the media.

The media does this kind of thing because there's a market for it. If
people didn't watch, they wouldn't do it. It's a reflection of our
culture, and that's a pity.

Mike, N4PDY.

--
[e-mail]

My opinions are my own, not my employer's.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Axinar)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Airport/Aircraft Regulations
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 22:04:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4hd526$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Well, believe it or not, I have actually been at a job long enough to
acrue some vacation time, so I'm going to see my mother in Boise, ID
at the end of the month.  This is the first time that I will have been
on an aircraft of any kind since becomming a ham.  Now, I know that
you are not allow to transmit from a commercial aircraft, but:

Are you allowed to carry an HT onto a commercial airliner if you don't
use it?

Are you allowed to carry and/or use an HT in an airport?

73!

     [e-mail]
     John  KB8GYS @ K8SCH.#CIN.OH.USA.NA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hd526$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:36:55 GMT

In article <4hd526$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
-Now, I know that
-you are not allow to transmit from a commercial aircraft, but:
-
-Are you allowed to carry an HT onto a commercial airliner if you don't
-use it?

I have never had any problems with it.  Make sure the battery is fully
charged, and set it to the local weather channel before passing thru
security.  I usually put it in the same pass-around box with my change
and keys, and then turn it on to show them that it makes noise.

-Are you allowed to carry and/or use an HT in an airport?

I have done both; just watch out for causing unwanted RFI; once I realized
that my HT was occaisionally setting off the metal detector from 5 feet
away.  I just quietly moved to the other side of the lounge :-)

One other tip: Look in the book to figure out how to put it in AM RX
and look up the arrive/depart and the airline freqs to give something
else to listen to while waiting.  And use headphones...
/mike
--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai     N1IST
-*- ----------------------------------
/|\     [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (DeNoid95X)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations
Date: 4 Mar 1996 22:00:11 -0500
Message-ID: <4hganr$[e-mail]>
References: <4he5b3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (DeNoid95X)

Thats a grat idea never thought of it when on a airliner to set it to NOAA
thanks for the idea
N9RLR/2


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wes Stewart)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:50:45 LOCAL
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>   <4hdlvj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hfqtn$[e-mail]>

In article <4hfqtn$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Fell
ows) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] writes:
>|> Paul,
>|>
>|> That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only
>|> one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought
>|> such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342.
>|>
>|> Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to
>|> cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract.
>|> However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent
>|> on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of
>|> this product or companies under infringement.
>|>
>|> Gaerhardt G. Herbst
>|>


>What I am wondering is what this has anything to do with amateur radio antenn
as,
>homebrew, space, etc.?  The point is that this, and the preceding posts were
>made to the amateur radio news groups.

>Cooling of microprocessors, and your grandstanding of being awarded a patent
are
>of no interest to me or in any way pertinent to my interest in amateur radio.

>And that is why the newsgroup(s) have those titles.

>If you are looking for invetors, get a clue and do it somewhere else.

>If you are simply so proud of yourself for being awarded a patent for what
>appears to be anothers work, then HIP HIP HOORAY for you!  Now grow up and go
>away.

>Jim



Amen, Jim.  If this thing works like this guy spells, he's got a tough sell.

"Announsing", "blatent" and "know one else" indeed. I don't know what his
device is,  because searching for the number didn't work for me. Sounds like a

Peltier device, but I guess it could be cold fusion.

73, Wes -- N7WS



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Laughton)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 07:42:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4hgr8o$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>  <4hdlvj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

>Paul,

>That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only
>one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought
>such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342.

>Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to
>cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract.
>However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent
>on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of
>this product or companies under infringement.

>Gaerhardt G. Herbst

Having too much time on my hands, I went and looked at your patent.
The first part of the patent describes the exact CCD cooling method
used for years by Santa Barbara Instruments (and others) for cooling
CCDs. Your novel claim seems to be an IC cooler that is retrofitted to
an existing, uncooled IC.

<Yawn>



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:52 1996
From: "Thomas C. J. Sefranek" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: 5 Mar 1996 12:31:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhc6u$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <1996Mar5.000656.1@ssrl01>

Westinghouse Semiconductor DOES indeed have a patent on TE coolers.
(I don't know if they even exist anymore...)
I have a large (4"-4" plate) made by them and it has a patent number on
it.  It has a nice fan on the back for moving the heat and embedded
thermocouples for reading the two sides of the junction.

I have used these devices at MIT for over 20 years now, and I'm curious
as to the patent system that is being used by this guy who obviously had
NO interest in the origional development of the device.  Clearly a case
of opportunism.  Ah well Bill Gates can do it, why not this turkey?

Tom
WA1RHP




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.astro.amateur
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 5 Mar 96 11:32:06 EST
References: <[e-mail]>   <4hgr8o$[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In article <4hgr8o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Paul Laughton) writ
es:
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Paul,
>
>>That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only
>>one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought
>>such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342.
>
>>Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to
>>cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract.
>>However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent
>>on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of
>>this product or companies under infringement.
>
>>Gaerhardt G. Herbst
>
> Having too much time on my hands, I went and looked at your patent.
> The first part of the patent describes the exact CCD cooling method
> used for years by Santa Barbara Instruments (and others) for cooling
> CCDs. Your novel claim seems to be an IC cooler that is retrofitted to
> an existing, uncooled IC.
>
> <Yawn>
Are these the same Peltier(sp?) devices that you can pick up surplus from
places like Marlin P. Jones and Edmund Scientific for like $12.95?
Just curious,
Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wes Stewart)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:06:25 LOCAL
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hdlvj$[e-mail]>

In article <4hdlvj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul Laughton) write
s:
>From: [e-mail] (Paul Laughton)
>Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
>Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 02:54:14 GMT

>[e-mail] wrote:


[blah,blah... deleted]

>I wonder how Mr Herbst slipped this one past the prior art
>investigation? This technology has been around since the early 70's -
>at least. For example, IBM and Amdahl main frames made extensive use
>of it.

Simple. He reinvented it first!






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:55 1996
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 08:44:20 PDT
References: <[e-mail]>

Paul,

That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only
one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought
such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342.

Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to
cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract.
However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent
on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of
this product or companies under infringement.

Gaerhardt G. Herbst



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:56 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 14:52:01 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>  <4hg97g$[e-mail]>


> I believe your final statement is too broad.  You may "preclude others
> from practicing your invention" is closer to the correct formulation.
>
Correct you Charles.

Gerhardt G. Herbst



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:57 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 15:00:58 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hg97g$[e-mail]>  <[e-mail]>


> Correct you Charles.
>
> Gerhardt G. Herbst
>
Whoops...I mean correct you are Charles...

Gerhardt



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:26:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 13:37:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4hmp0u$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <1996Mar5.000656.1@ssrl01> <4hhc6u$[e-mail]>

   "Thomas C. J. Sefranek" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Clearly a case of opportunism.  Ah well Bill Gates can do it, why not
>this turkey?

Bill Gates' success year after year is NOT the result of taking undue
advantage of some helpless victim.

Perhaps opportunism is just another catch-all phrase coined so the
have-nots could better antagonize the haves?

73,
Jack WB3U


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:00 1996
From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: 2 Mar 1996 05:00:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4h8kkq$gkv$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Gary KE4ZV said:

>The ARRL needs to explain why it refused to accept
>a seat on the NCVEC board.

ARRL was not offered a seat.... a league employee, Bart
Jahnke, was offered a seat on the NCVEC Board of Directors.

The explanation is in their news release dated February
23 "...ARRL chose not to participate in the new corporation,
in part because a review of the corporate documents had
revealed fundamental flaws that expose participants (Bart
Jahnke) to liability for the actions of others over whom
they have no control."  In other terms, management chose
not to place an employee in a position of potential legal
liability on the board of another corporation.

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Support your local Amateur Radio clubs.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <4h8kkq$gkv$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:41:19 GMT

In article <4h8kkq$gkv$[e-mail]> Hans Brakob <71111.2
[e-mail]> writes:
>Gary KE4ZV said:
>>The ARRL needs to explain why it refused to accept
>>a seat on the NCVEC board.
>
>ARRL was not offered a seat.... a league employee, Bart
>Jahnke, was offered a seat on the NCVEC Board of Directors.
>
>The explanation is in their news release dated February
>23 "...ARRL chose not to participate in the new corporation,
>in part because a review of the corporate documents had
>revealed fundamental flaws that expose participants (Bart
>Jahnke) to liability for the actions of others over whom
>they have no control."  In other terms, management chose
>not to place an employee in a position of potential legal
>liability on the board of another corporation.

Ok, I'm not a corporate lawyer, but I retain one. He tells
me that one of the primary benefits of incorporation is
*limitation* of personal liability. Now you're telling me
that Mr. Jahnke would be placed in greater legal jepardy
by working under a corporate charter rather than working on
an *unincorporated* QPC, where presumably his personal
liability is unlimited. Strange.

The NCVEC incorporation documents must be flawed indeed
for that to be the case. I'm surprised that they passed
muster with the Secretary of State of the State in which
the corporation was chartered.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:02 1996
From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: 1 Mar 1996 18:20:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4h7f5n$b97$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Scotty Neustadter said:

>....ARRL directed NCVEC not to communicate with its
>employees nor to do anything that could be
>construed that ARRL was participating in NCVEC.

Don't confuse the NCVEC with the QPC (Question Pool
Committee).  They are separate and distinct entities.

ARRL was a member and primary participant in the QPC from
the beginning, long before NCVEC was incorporated.

Because ARRL (and other VECs) chose not to join this new
corporation, NCVEC has basically tried to kick them off
the QPC as well.

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Support your local Amateur Radio clubs.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:03 1996
From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: 2 Mar 1996 16:32:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4h9t7a$on5$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Scotty Neustadter asked:

>If NCVEC complies with this request, how can a member of the
>ARRL staff be on the QPC committee?

It's simple....  ARRL was a member of the QPC long before there
was a corporation called NCVEC.

The QPC is a creature of the FCC, not of NCVEC, and NCVEC cannot
unilaterally upsurp the function of QPC and deny participation
to any FCC accredited VEC.

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Support your local Amateur Radio clubs.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:04 1996
From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 96 01:29:35 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h8kkq$gkv$[e-mail]>

Hans, you make some excellent points in your numerous replies.  As a Field
Appointee, I don't always agree with the actions of Hq., but I back them
solidly on this matter.  A few of the points have not really been addressed
here by Gary or Scotty, most notably, the legality of NCVEC Inc.
     First, Part 97 effectually makes NCVEC Inc (merely by its organization as
a corporation) noncompliant.  It was apparent (from early in this process when
the issue of incorporation first came up) that ARRL had numerous reservations
from both legal and liability standpoints.  Hq. argued against the formation
of such a corporation on those grounds.  Jahnke effectively communicated those
reservations to the QPC but was outgunned and outvoted.  This action cause
ARRL to be denied a seat on NCVEC Inc.  These are the salient points of this
issue, not whether the "ARRL gorilla" is 800 pounds or a slimmer and trimmer
500 pounds.  And besides, if you guys had really wanted to bash the League,
you would have referred to it as a "one ton 'guerilla'", not just a plain ol'
'go-rilla'!
     But say this, you guys have really done a swell job of giving Sid (who
originated this thread) and all of us something worthwhile on which to chew!
Thanks to all of you for discussing (attacking?!?) the issue rather than the
people taking part.
73 to all...
     de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
     [e-mail]
     ARRL Hudson Division Assistant Director
     Eastern NY Bulletin Manager/PIC
     Executive Producer - "This Week in Amateur Radio"


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:05 1996
From: Scotty Neustadter <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 00:07:38 -0600
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4n57$fa8$[e-mail]>
To: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>

Hans Brakob wrote:
>
> Gary,
>    ARRL did not "gather up their marbles and go home".
> Their marbles were confiscated and they were removed from
> the game because they declined to pledge allegiance to NCVEC.
> The question pool committee cannot be a committee restricted
> only to members of the NCVEC, Inc. There is no agreement
> between the FCC and the NCVEC, Inc. The agreements are
> between the FCC and the individual organizations that serve
> as VECs. The QPC is a child of FCC, not NCVEC, so NCVEC
> cannot impose "conditions" on participation.  The FCC rules
> bind all VECs to cooperate in maintaining a question pool
> for each written examination element. A few VECs, even a
> majority of VECs, cannot unilaterally create a corporation
> as a mechanism for maintaining the pools and then exclude
> other VECs who do not choose to participate in that corporation.
> ARRL is not alone in choosing to not participate in the
> corporation, but even if they were, it would make no
> difference.
>    By the way, since the question pools are public, there is no
> particular advantage to a publisher to be on the committee. You
> and I could publish study guides just as easily as ARRL or W5YI.
> With your brains and my looks, we would corner the market.
>
> --
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> --Support your local Amateur Radio clubs.The ARRL was never asked to "pledge
 allegiance" to NCVEC, they were
invited to place a member on the board, they declined and asked NCVEC,
Inc not to talk to their employees nor take any action that might imply
that the ARRL was party to NCVEC.  Given this edict from the ARRL, NCVEC
had no choice but to sever its tied with the ARRL employee who was on
the QPC

73

Scotty


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:06 1996
From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: 5 Mar 1996 14:33:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhjbl$6f7$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Jay Maynard asked:

>"Why did ARRL refuse to join NCVEC, Inc.?"<

Bart Jahnke, an ARRL employee, was offered a seat on the
NCVEC Board of Directors. ARRL declined the offer because
it made Bart potentially liable for the actions of others
on the board, even though he had no control over their
actions. Since he had served on the question pool committee
for several years without that liability, there was no
reason to impose it on him. ARRL therefore requested not
to be included in NCVEC, but stated their intention to
continue to cooperate with all the VEC's in the QPC and other
matters of mutual concern.

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Support your local Amateur Radio clubs.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: 4 Mar 1996 11:48:27 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h7f5n$b97$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 1 Mar 1996 18:20:39 GMT, Hans Brakob <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Because ARRL (and other VECs) chose not to join this new
>corporation, NCVEC has basically tried to kick them off
>the QPC as well.

OK, Hans...let me ask this question again, since I haven't seen an answer
yet: Why did ARRL refuse to join NCVEC, Inc.?

I'd like to know this, regardless of the issues involved in the QPC - it
does appear to me that NCVEC, Inc. cannot declare itself the QPC
unilaterally.
--
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
http://k5zc.hsc.uth.tmc.edu       | adequately be explained by stupidity.
      "Are we going to push it to the edge of the envelope?" -- Pinky
     "No, Pinky. We may, however, reach the sticky part." -- The Brain



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB015 VEC conflict-of-interest rules
Date: 4 Mar 1996 23:15:14 -0500
Message-ID: <4hgf4i$[e-mail]>
References: <$[e-mail]>

In article <$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>The FCC has formally eliminated conflict-of-interest provisions that
>had applied to the administration of Amateur Radio exams. The action
>conforms Part 97 of the rules to the provisions of the
>Telecommunications Act of 1996, recently signed into law by President
>Clinton.
>
>The Commission also eliminated a requirement that volunteer examiners
>and volunteer examiner coordinators maintain records of out-of-pocket
>expenses and annually certify those expenses to the FCC.

Gee, I wonder what wave of goodies we can expect from W5YI as a
result of this?

Probably more items along the lines of "send me $5 to renew your
amateur radio license".

MD
--
--
--  These opinions are mine, all mine, posted from my system at home,
--  paid for with my own money, and if you don't like them... PHHHHHFT!
--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB015 VEC conflict-of-interest rules
Date: 5 Mar 1996 10:59:50 -0500
Message-ID: <4hhodm$[e-mail]>
References: <$[e-mail]> <4hgf4i$[e-mail]>

In article <4hgf4i$[e-mail]>,
Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>The FCC has formally eliminated conflict-of-interest provisions that
>>had applied to the administration of Amateur Radio exams. The action
>>conforms Part 97 of the rules to the provisions of the
>>Telecommunications Act of 1996, recently signed into law by President
>>Clinton.
>>The Commission also eliminated a requirement that volunteer examiners
>>and volunteer examiner coordinators maintain records of out-of-pocket
>>expenses and annually certify those expenses to the FCC.

>Gee, I wonder what wave of goodies we can expect from W5YI as a
>result of this?

I suppose that Bart Jahnke and the ARRL/VEC can move back into the main
building from that shack without any lights or running water, too.

>Probably more items along the lines of "send me $5 to renew your
>amateur radio license".

W5YI already puts out all kinds of study guides, etc. What *more* can
they put out? Same with ARRL. I guess the practical impact is that all
the creative legal fictions and accounting headaches created because
of the old conflict-of-interest requirements can now vanish.

>MD

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: ATTN: JOHN ENGLISH
Date: 5 Mar 1996 18:48:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4hi2ap$[e-mail]>


this is to [e-mail]:

You asked me to email my phone # in reference to the TH-77, and I have
emailed you many times. However, you did mention that you had problems
with your internet server, so if you see this, either call me at:

(414)-486-1516, or email me...

Thanks,


Nate, KB9LSX

([e-mail])
(http://www.uwm.edu/~herb)





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kelly Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Brampton, Ontario Hamfest.
Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:18:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4hht0t$[e-mail]>


                     The Peel Amateur Radio Club
                             presents

                             HAM-EX 96

               Amateur Radio - Computer - Electronics

                             FLEAMARKET

Saturday March 23, 1996               Talk-in repeater VE3PRC 146.880-
Century Gardens Recreation Complex    Doors open at 9:00am (vendors 7:00am)
340 Vodden St. E.                     Admission $5.00
(Vodden just east of Rutherford)      Vendor tables $20.00
Brampton, Ontario                       (tables include 1 free admission)


For more information, contact:
  Joe Valente VE3VDK     or FAX
  52 Cloverdale Drive       [phone]
  Bramalea, Ont             between 9:00am and 4:00 PM.
  L6T 2T4
  [phone]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (pete brunelli)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Bristol, CT Hamfest
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 16:39:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhqlr$[e-mail]>


March 10, 1996
Insurance City Repeater Club Hamfest
Dealers at 7am, Doors open at 9 am  -- General Admission $4
Raffle for ICOM VHF Mobile rig
Door prizes
Talk in in 146.88 and 224.800 (pl 77.0)
Bristol Eastern HS, King Street
Tables $10 for first 3, $8 for 4th onward
Tables on day of show, $15 if available
call 860-620-0176 for more info or to leave message

73 and cul
Pete Brunelli, N1QDQ




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Robert E. Garland)
Subject: Re: CB conversion for HAM use?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 01:14:41 GMT

[e-mail] (SARUMAN) writes:

>Howdy folks, I was just going thru some of my stuff and found my old Walkie T
's
>Both are 3 channel 3 watt units. one Lafayette one Radio Shack. Is it possabl
e
>to get Crystals for Frequencies other thatn the 40 CB Channels for use with
>these units? Any other Mod's needed? Thanx for the help folks.
>The Crystals in these are socketed if that matters. I've been out of this for
>Years.


><tsb>
>                               Midgard Graphics
>           3D Animation and Special FX for the hobbyist videographer
>                          Email: [e-mail]

>--
>          Drop into #amigacafe on IRC's undernet for a chat sometime

>--

><tsb>

>                     A man of many hobby's master of none.


For what it is worth, you can legally convert the 49 MHz units to 50 MHz
ham band units.  I can't say how useful they would be since I don't work
50 MHz myself.  I suspect that you will have to retune as well as
recrystal, but if you have some technical skill, that should not be a
problem.

--
     Robert Garland                            NX3S @ N3ACL.PA.USA.NOAM
     Hilltown Township Bucks County               [e-mail]
     Pennsylvania USA                                       Grid FN20ii
                   Hams do it bouncing off the "F" layer


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: 1 Mar 1996 18:20:23 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4h7f57$[e-mail]>

Kind of says it all, doesn't it?





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:15 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: 2 Mar 1996 20:51:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4hacd9$[e-mail]>
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]>

>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:
>  Kind of says it all, doesn't it?
>
>
>
>
>>>>
ZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzZZZZZZZZ

huh?????

i thought i heard a squeaky mousey sound

must of been my imagination

ZZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzzZZZZZ

CW if it keeps Drew off the air, it can't be all that bad


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peter A. Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: 3 Mar 1996 23:51:09 -0800
Message-ID: <4he7dd$[e-mail]>
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Bill  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In response to [e-mail] --
>
>To take your comment to its logical conclusion, we might say that ham
>radio itself is outdated.  Remember that the main reason for the
>existence of amateur radio is to provide emergency communication as a
>public service.  How do we measure up today against new technology that
>includes sat-com, gps, cellular (voice) and cellular (data), all of which
>can be used by the untrained during the same type of "emergency"
>situations that we might face as amateurs providing needed

How about the fact that time and time again, in large-scale emergency
situations, cellular systems are overloaded by the public and/or fail
because of the emergency itself?  Or that the sheriff's repeater often
doesn't quite reach into the remote mountain valley where a hiker
incoveniently fell off the trail.  Or that we can route health and welfare
traffic off the primary communications channels, leaving them free for the
official stuff?  We're still worth a lot.

And we're in an era of government downsizing, where needed personnel often
get laid off due to budget cuts or beancounter's theoretical priorities.
Or enough equipment isn't maintained for a large-scale emergency.  Then
the emergency hits, and the hams are needed to fill in.

73,
Peter - KD7MW
---


--
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Information Services, 5569             :   |    |  |  |    |   |    |   |
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: 6 Mar 1996 07:36:29 -0500
Message-ID: <4hk0sd$[e-mail]>
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4he7dd$[e-mail]>

In article <4he7dd$[e-mail]>,
        Peter A. Klein <[e-mail]> wrote:

>How about the fact that time and time again, in large-scale emergency
>situations, cellular systems are overloaded by the public and/or fail
>because of the emergency itself?

Any public safety organization worth its salt is no longer relying on
cellular for emergency communications and will have many backup plans.


>Or that the sheriff's repeater often
>doesn't quite reach into the remote mountain valley where a hiker
>incoveniently fell off the trail.

These scenarios are the exception rather than the norm. Should we waste
Mhz of valuable spectrum worth billions for a handful of examples? No,
we shouldn't. Sell the spectrum.


MD
--
--
--  These opinions are mine, all mine, posted from my system at home,
--  paid for with my own money, and if you don't like them... PHHHHHFT!
--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:19 1996
From: Gene Shablygin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 22:16:09 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>  <4he7dd$[e-mail]>


Why do we need to defend our hobby, using arguments like
"public services", etc. YES, Ham Radio can be useful in emergency,
but it is NOT about emergencies!

Why golfers do not try to defend their game, arguing that the
golf ball can be used as an arm (see "Coneheads"). They play
golf because they love it! The same about any other hobby.
You are lucky, if you can find secondary use of the hobby, but
even if you can't... so what?!

I think that it is nothing wrong about preserving Whimbledon
corts from amateurs, who started to play tennis two weeks ago.
And if you DO NOT WANT to learn, how to serve, do not complain,
if you will never join the Grand Slam tournament. The same with
code. YES, I do not see any SERIOUS practical use of it. But
for us it is a part of the hobby, and without code a ham is like
a tennis player without serice. Do we need any other arguments?

I personally enjoy working CW. Unlike many of my friends, the
code for me was a DIFFICULT task, and it takes me several years
to practice it, until I became able to work seriously. But I
am proud, that in one day, I passed all my US exams, from novice
to extra, including code, of course (my case is unusual, comparing
to others, because I had Russian Extra class license for a long
time... but in Russia it was possible, having good friends, get
a license without any exams).

So let's use code on HF, as a part of the rules of the game!

73

Gene AB5GY / RA3AA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:20 1996
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
From: [e-mail] (James D. Cronin)
Subject: Cold fusion superconducting antennas (was: Announsing...)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hfqtn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:27:42 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>,
Wes Stewart <[e-mail]> wrote:
>...
>"Announsing", "blatent" and "know one else" indeed. I don't know what his
>device is,  because searching for the number didn't work for me. Sounds like
a
>Peltier device, but I guess it could be cold fusion.
>
>73, Wes -- N7WS

Isn't it obvious:

Homebrew superconducting cold fusion ham radio astronomy antenna
equipment with investment potential for insider stock trader Canadians.
(Apoligies in advance to our friends in VE land...)

Ten points to the first person who cross-posts all this stuff to the
alt.sex hierarchy.  April 1 is closer than you think.

73...Jim  N2VNO


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Commercial Repeaters {Q}
Date: 5 Mar 1996 16:11:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhp3a$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hb709$[e-mail]>

[e-mail](David Fields ) writes:
>Cona person just go to the Ham Radio Supply Store and buy a
>commercially manufactured repeater?

Yes, although I don't personally think very highly of most of the
ham-grade repeaters available.

The real problem is that it takes more work and technical skill to make
a repeater work well than it does to build it.  Someone who doesn't have
the whatever to construct the repeater probably isn't going to have a
lot of luck making it work real well.  I'd strongly suggest you get some
techie types interested in your project so they can give you a hand.
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:22 1996
Newsgroups: rec.audio.tubes,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Compactron Sockets Needed
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:45:42 GMT

I need some 12-pin sockets for compactrons and don't seem to find them
anywhere.  One local supplier has some old PC mount units, but I am
looking for the chassis-mount ones that will drop into 1" diameter
holes, if at all possible.  I gather these aren't in production any
longer, but does anyone have a handful of them in a basement somewhere
or know some supplier with old stock around?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra.  C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4gm6sl$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4h10si$[e-mail]> <willmore.825634606@whelk> <4h8kv7$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:36:00 GMT

In article <4h8kv7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul Erickson) write
s:
>[e-mail] (David A Willmore) writes:
>>[e-mail] (Paul Erickson) writes:
>>'CW is the most basic form of communication possible...'
>
>>That's one for the quote file.  Given a lot of the 'conversation' that goes
>>on in the HF bands, I'd have to agree that 'basic' defines it quite well.
>>Knowlege of the alphabet is necessary to write, to spell, to sort, to read,
>>etc.  Could you explain, again, how knowlege of other digital modes depends
>>on CW?  I can see from a theoretical point how understanding CW as a
>>modulation scheme is useful to understand later modes, but that in no way
>>implies a need to be proficient in its practice.
>
>
>This seems to miss the distinction between understanding a language and
>understanding the means by which it is transmitted. It is entirely possible
>to use a technology that one does not completely understand. It is however,
>impossible to communicate with a language one does not understand. CW is
>a language.

Morse is *not* a language. It is an encoding of *alphabet*, no different
in principle than ASCII. Like any alphabetic encoding, it can be used
to *spell* words in some language, but it is not itself a language. It
is *you* who are confusing transmission means with language.

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:24 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:32:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4heutj$[e-mail]>
References: <4gsf2u$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4h1sbe$[e-mail]> <4h5bbn$[e-mail]> <4h7hds$[e-mail]> <4h8p89$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>There is nothing stopping people from being a ham w/o learning code they've
>got everything above 30 Mhz. Why all the whinning?
>
>             Mike KC5GJN


To the contrary, the whining is engendered by all those wish to retain Morse c
ode for
operation on HF because that is the only device that they have left because so
 far no
substantive arguements have been presented which would support their opinions.


73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:25 1996
From: "john p. sumner" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:45:21 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gsf2u$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4h1sbe$[e-mail]> <4h5bbn$[e-mail]> <4h7hds$[e-mail]> <4h8p89$[e-mail]> <4heutj$[e-mail]> <4hf2kt$[e-mail]>

I wish they would do away with morse because if people want to be hams
why should there be a test if you re never going to use it again










John P. Sumner
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Leigh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 5 Mar 1996 00:53:36 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hg3ag$[e-mail]>
References: <4gm6sl$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4h10si$[e-mail]> <4h8n5d$[e-mail]> <4h8qer$[e-mail]>

Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >CW is a dying art I would hate to see it die.

: WHY??  You just said it yourself...it's a "dying art"...so, let's put it
: out of it's misery and let it die!

: The patient is terminal; call Dr. Kevorkian

For something that's allegedly dying, CW still works very well!  During
the last ARRL VHF/UHF contest, I used a tiny 3 watt Icom 402 which puts
out a mere 3 watts of SSB and CW on 432 MHz.  There were several stations
that could not copy me on SSB, but could copy my CW.  Yes, there are some
digital modes that are more effecient than CW, BUT using them on a typical
voice frequency like 432.100 would not be very cool.

73.  --Leigh/KM6JE.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:27 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:52:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4hga9p$[e-mail]>
References: <4gsf2u$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4h1sbe$[e-mail]> <4h5bbn$[e-mail]> <4h7hds$[e-mail]> <4h8p89$[e-mail]> <4heutj$[e-mail]> <4hf2kt$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, "john
p. sumner" <[e-mail]> writes:
>I wish they would do away with morse because if people want to be hams
>why should there be a test if you re never going to use it again
>John P. Sumner
>[e-mail]

oh, i dunno if they should do away with Morse...but there is a question about
if we need 3 different speed exams. truly proficient operators breeze past 20.
they would do that anyway. so maybe 5 is all that's required.

other times people say we need a test that's skill based rather than knowledge
based for the "pinky" crowd as opposed to the "brain" crowd. since all exams h
ave
a written element, i tend to think this argument is flawed.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:28 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 4 Mar 1996 21:14:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4hfmfr$[e-mail]>
References: <4heutj$[e-mail]>

>   Jim Cummings <[e-mail]> writes:
>  [e-mail] wrote:
>
>  >There is nothing stopping people from being a ham w/o learning code they'v
e
>  >got everything above 30 Mhz. Why all the whinning?
>  >
>  >             Mike KC5GJN
>
>
>  To the contrary, the whining is engendered by all those wish to retain Mors
e code for
>  operation on HF because that is the only device that they have left because
 so far no
>  substantive arguements have been presented which would support their opinio
ns.
>
>  73 and live better digitally
>  Jim, VE3XJ
>


You need to learn code because international law sez you do!!!  Until that cha
nges, this is rapidly
becoming a very boring topic.

When the date reads 1999 and the ITU meets again, lets discuss this somemore.
 Until
then lets talk about pinning coaxial cables and ripping down towers...you know
..
destructive things that have been advocated by some here

steve

no code or know code....who really gives a hoover (damn)


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 6 Mar 1996 04:39:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4hj4u8$[e-mail]>
References: <4h10si$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4haptg$[e-mail]>

In article <4haptg$[e-mail]>, Mike James <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>Evidence of personal commitment and self-discipline are, IMHO, more than
>adequate justification of using CW proficiency as a prerequisite for the
>privilage of using the HF bands.

How do the CW exam elements test for personal commitment and self-discipline
and more than the written exams?


Please note the Followup-Tp: line.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 5 Mar 1996 18:43:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4hi1vu$[e-mail]>
References: <4gm6sl$[e-mail]> <4h8o80$[e-mail]> <4heuii$[e-mail]> <4hf37e$[e-mail]>

In article <4hf37e$[e-mail]>,
Christopher K Greenhalgh <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Wrong! Here it is in a nutshell...The passing of the CW test is currently
>required for use of the HF amateur allocated frequencies...period!
>
>Those of you who dont agree, than write the ARRL, FCC, your congressman, ect.
>It does no good to continue your drivel here.
>
>Take care.
>--
>Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT

Thank you Mr. moderator.  Presumably only your "drivel" is appropriate for
posting on .policy?  The debate will continue, no matter how much you
tire of it, until change is effected.  It would be nice if these efforts
could take a contructive turn though.

One confounding problem is the fact that people here prefer to disagree
with others, rather than seek those issues upon which we agree.  (Makes
for more sensational posts, I think.)  If we could agree, for example, that
the current testing methods are less than optimum, and could achieve
consensus on the basic prerequisites for a responsible/knowlegable amateur
operator, a testing scheme could be devised to insure the minimum
qualifications of an applicant.  But such a test should test ONLY for
requisite skills and
knowledge.  (Lets face it, it is unrealistic to expect a newbie to
demonstrate the expertise of a seasoned operator prior his being granted a
license.)  A constructive discussion can only be conducted in an atmosphere
abscent of hostility, prejudice, and resentment.  Unfortunately there
exists an ample amount of all the above.

Morse testing IS an appropriate topic for discussion on this group.
Agreed, it is not the only place for it to take place, but it is a good
place for it.  It's safe to assume that some of this is noticed by ARRL
directors, and perhaps even certain FCC officials.  Another tack is of
course direct correspondence with those individuals.  I suspect that very
few congressmen give a damn one way or the other about the problems
of amateur radio however.

73
Jim, KE6JPO


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Erickson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 2 Mar 1996 05:05:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4h8kv7$[e-mail]>
References: <4gm6sl$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4h10si$[e-mail]> <willmore.825634606@whelk>

[e-mail] (David A Willmore) writes:

>[e-mail] (Paul Erickson) writes:
>>Interesting, does this mean that because people can talk without knowing
>>how to read and we therefore do not need to teach the alpahbet? CW is the
>>most basic form of communication possible, and to eliminate it is to
>>promote a fundamental illiteracy. The digital modes should be enjoyed
>>and developed, but someone who is not willing to develope even a basic
>>facility for the most basic mode available doesn't belong there.

>'CW is the most basic form of communication possible...'

>That's one for the quote file.  Given a lot of the 'conversation' that goes
>on in the HF bands, I'd have to agree that 'basic' defines it quite well.
>Knowlege of the alphabet is necessary to write, to spell, to sort, to read,
>etc.  Could you explain, again, how knowlege of other digital modes depends
>on CW?  I can see from a theoretical point how understanding CW as a
>modulation scheme is useful to understand later modes, but that in no way
>implies a need to be proficient in its practice.


This seems to miss the distinction between understanding a language and
understanding the means by which it is transmitted. It is entirely possible
to use a technology that one does not completely understand. It is however,
impossible to communicate with a language one does not understand. CW is
a language. One of the two modes we have which are understandable by
humans without the need for interveaning technologies. I never want
to see the day when someone in a crisis who only has cw and the supporting
basic technology available finds themselves in a position where those
who are dominating the spectrum are unable and unwilling to understand them.


>BTW, how's your semiconductor physics?  How are your boolean logic skills?
>Maybe you should practice them a bit more before you post--they are the
>most basic form of modern computing.  People who don't understand them
>don't belong here...

nonsequitur... see above.

cheers, Paul
VE7CQK
email: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:33 1996
From: Joe Fitter  BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DX REFLECTOR HELP
Date: 6 Mar 1996 12:01:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4hjuqd$[e-mail]>


Hi,
I subscribed to the dx reflector, received 2 days of email
and now nothing is being delivered.  How do I subscribe
again (deleted that old message....)?  Or anyone know a
contact in charge of the email DX reflector?

thanks, Joe


----------------------------------------------------------
Amateur Radio:  BV/N0IAT   Taipei TAIWAN Republic of China

ex.  7J1AOF (Japan)  YU3/N0IAT (Slovenia)  KA0ZDH (Novice)
Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986.  Comments are mine only.
----------------------------------------------------------




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:34 1996
From: Jim O'Connell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DX REFLECTOR HELP
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 11:58:08 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hjuqd$[e-mail]>
To: Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]>

Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I subscribed to the dx reflector, received 2 days of email
> and now nothing is being delivered.  How do I subscribe
> again (deleted that old message....)?  Or anyone know a
> contact in charge of the email DX reflector?
>
> thanks, Joe
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Amateur Radio:  BV/N0IAT   Taipei TAIWAN Republic of China
>
> ex.  7J1AOF (Japan)  YU3/N0IAT (Slovenia)  KA0ZDH (Novice)
> Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986.  Comments are mine only.
> ----------------------------------------------------------

Joe: Send a message to [e-mail]   with the
word subscribe in the text box.   The hard drive crashed and many
addresses were lost.

73, Jim W9WU


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:35 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Thomas)
Subject: Re: FCC rules for cordless phones
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hlk96$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:48:11 GMT

The 49Mhz and 900MHz cordless phones operate under part 15 of the FCC
rules, CB and Amateur radio each have their own parts which are seperate
from part 15 and from each other.

--
*********************************************************************
* "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."              *
*                                                                   *
*  [e-mail]  - Glenn Thomas                                  *
*********************************************************************


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAMFEST IN SHAKOPEE MINNESOTA  -  sma96.txt [1/1]
Date: 1 Mar 1996 19:53:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4h7kkk$[e-mail]>

The SouthWest Metro Amateur Radio Transmitting Society is pleased to present S
MARTSFEST 96

to be held Saturday,April 27 at Canterbury Downs in beautiful Shakopee Minneso
ta.

Smartsfest 96, Minnesotas most affordable Hamfest features low admission price
s,door prizes, numerous club activities, SMARTS CHALLENGE, and absoutely FREE
PARKING. One ticket price covers EVERYTHING!

Tickets this year are $3 in advance and $5 at the door. Kids under 14 are free
.Advance tickets availible at all the useual places ,through select club funct
ions or by calling mike N0zxg at 445-0460

Doors open at 8 am and the fest runs to 2 pm

For table availibility and prices, contact Tim WD0ENG at 474-9232
or Dave N0TLA at 445-8071

Talk-in or further information is aslo available on the Carver repeater at
147.165 mhz.+


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:38 1996
From: ANON <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Have you read ARRL Bulletin #9 yet? A blockbuster!!
Date: 3 Mar 1996 15:51:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4hcf6c$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4gisub$[e-mail]> <4givjk$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hccqt$[e-mail]>


>>Siegfried Rambaum ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>: What the heck is the problem? Any ham in his senses would not apply for an
 antenna mast if not 100% assured (best in written) th=
at this would pose no problem. Ever heard that a FLAGPOLE had been objected? W
hy not
make that flagpole sturdy and high, and if some antenna(s) fits under the
if flag, well .... put the flag up first, and add the antenna later. There
>>: is no restriction whatsoever on flagpoles :))

Many many Homeowner Association CC&R's in California prohibit FLAGPOLES --
I know -- I live in a tract with such a CC&R. Most new homes for sale have
CC&R's as an integral part of the sale of a home. That is if you don't
sign papers consenting to abide by the CC&R's-- you can't buy the home.
Even if you managed to not sign the CC&R's and buy the home -- a lawyer
advises that you are still bound by them -- property is encumbered by
same.

Needless to say HOA's also prohibit antennas of any kind. Here HOA's are
battling with homeowners now over the new small satellite dishes, despite
the fact a new California law makes accomodation for same. As usual, hams
resort to stealth antennas.

Good luck Dxing with an "invisible antenna" at 15 feet! But I'm sure some
have accomplished same.

73
AC6V





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:39 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Headset while driving (was 'cell driving' illegal)
Date: 4 Mar 1996 07:44:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4he71j$[e-mail]>
References: <orbelld-2902960846570001@204.41.1.203> <4h4fuc$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>In article <4h4fuc$[e-mail]> [e-mail].o
hio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes:
>>In article <orbelld-2902960846570001@204.41.1.203>,
>>David Orbell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>I live in Ontario. Recently heard of someone getting a ticket for
>>>operating their cell phone while driving. I didn't realize their was a law
>>>against this.

[snip]

>In Georgia, covering an ear with a speaker or headset while driving
>is illegal, regardless of whether that speaker is in a cellular phone
>handset, a HT, or the headset for a HT, or for a Walkman. The law isn't
>heavily enforced, but amateurs here have been stopped and cited for
>wearing boom mike headsets (single ear) while driving. This obviously
>doesn't affect operation of normal mobile radios where the speaker is
>not held to the ear, nor does it affect hands free cellular phones.
>
>As I understand the history of the law, it was introduced at the time
>when the Walkman was new, and was intended primarily to prevent people
>from driving around wearing Walkman headsets and thus not able to hear
>warning sounds.

[snip]

For your GeeWizz reading pleasure...

California has an earphone law as well..older than the "walkman".

California drivers ARE permitted to cover one ear with a plug or headset,
but not both ears.  There are a number of exceptions specific to
construction, emergency and certain commercial vehicles and driving
conditions.

Headset wearing hams (and walkman users) in California should also note
that the prohibition on covering both ears applies to bicyclists as well
as motorists.





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help! Hiking in North-Central Maine!
Date: 6 Mar 1996 01:05:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4hiocm$[e-mail]>

My wife will be doing here Geology Field study near Mt. Katahdin
in north-central Maine in June.  She plans to take an HT, solar
panel, and gel cell.  I'm also trying to find her a portable,
collapsible Yagi (anyone have one to sell?).

The basic question is:

ARE THERE ANY REPEATERS TO HIT?

She'll be going from Lake Chesuncook to Quebec City to Nova
Scotia.  Obviously, Quebec City & Nova Scotia are repeaterful.

However, she'll be spending a fair amount of time (several weeks)
at the Lake or thereabouts, and would like to know that while
hiking, she's not "alone," radio-wise.

Anyone have any experience or know the local terrain?

What's the summer wx like up there?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

de NF3I & N3MXZ
--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19  QRV 40-10/6/2/440
*** VHF @ <25w, HF @ <5w *** Who says Morse Code is dead? ***
Stuck at 138 cfd with dipoles - QRP-L, QRP ARCI, DXCC/WAS/WAC
72/73 de Suburban DC 301-549-1022 h / 301-982-1015 w  dit dit


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Sorsby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HELP! with TS-520S cw receive
Date: 1 Mar 1996 19:26:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4h7j09$[e-mail]>
References: <4h5046$[e-mail]>

In article <4h5046$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>...  When receiving in the CW mode, I can hear a station, and if I
>tune up the band, I hear the same station 2 KHz up frequency, from
>center to center.


Jeff, it sounds to me like your rig has both the upper and lower sideband
carrier oscillators turned on simultaneously.  That's the only thing that
comes to mind which could cause the sort of problem you've described.

I don't have any Kenwood gear so I can't provide any hardware troubleshooting
tips.  Hpoefully someone else will step forward with more details.  Good
luck.


Regards,
Bill Sorsby, N5BU



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:42 1996
From: Mike - KB9LPJ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help!! Need Manual for TS-520
Date: 5 Mar 1996 13:31:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhfnl$[e-mail]>

TNX for reading this.

  I would like to know if anyone has a manual for
a Kenwood TS-520 that they would be willing to
part with.
  Or if they could steer me in the right
direction so I could get myself one.


Many TNX


73's >> Mike - KB9LPJ


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (James C. H. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HELP: AM & FM signals
Date: 5 Mar 1996 04:23:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4hgfkc$[e-mail]>

I'm trying to receive an out-of-state but strong signal AM radio station
(WSM-AM in TN to be exact) but have a hard time getting it.  I can do OK
from my car (with a fair amount of fuzz but at least recognizable,
especially at night), but can hardly get it in the house.  I currently
have a loop antenna that came with the stereo attached for AM signals and
a fancy-looking FM antenna that I bought (which helps improve FM signals)
for the FM.  Please, in your E-MAIL, tell me how to improve my reception
in detail but not too technical.  Also, how would I do the same for
distant FM stations?  Thanx to all who helps in advance!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (James C. H. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: HELP: AM & FM signals
Date: 6 Mar 1996 01:27:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hipm1$[e-mail]>



A question for all you radio experts out there.  I am trying to receive
an out-of-state but fairly strong AM signal (WSM-AM in Nashville to be
exact) and do okay at night (though fuzzy) if I'm driving but have hard
time getting it in the house.  My stereo currently has a loop antenna
that came from with it (which I attached for AM) and a FM stereo antenna
that I brought which helps with FM reception.  I want to know how can I
improve my AM reception 24 hours (other than attaching an antenna onto my
roof).  How would I do the same for distant FM signals?  Please in your
e-mail,  be detailed but not too technical.  Thanx to all who help in
advance!




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:45 1996
From: chau chi shing <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Icom 2700H mobile radio
Date: 1 Mar 1996 15:18:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4h74fi$[e-mail]>
To: all

My name is Pak from Hong Kong and my callsign is VR2YIK
Anyone who have any idea to upgrade or can made a change
to modify the icom 2700H to expand more feature.

Thanks you





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Icom W21AT Wide RX problem..
Date: 5 Mar 1996 05:08:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4hgi8o$[e-mail]>

I have done the keypad mod for extended RX, but it doesn't recieve much.
I read on an FTP site that this it the way to do it. However, at a local
repair shop, I was able to view a mod book for Icom radios. It cites the
addition of D-23 (MA132WK) as the RF expansion mod. Has anyone tried
this? Is it possible that Icom has stopped including this in the W21AT
radios? I know the keypad mod works on the earlier models..... Perhaps
they no longer include this diode. In the book, it said to do the keypad
mod only AFTER inserting the diode/ So, maybe mine TUNES out of band, but
requires a diode to actually RECIEVE out of band.. Any experience with this?


Nate, KB9LSX

Thanks alot!



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Barry Hinkle)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Icom W21AT Wide RX problem..
Date: 5 Mar 1996 16:16:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhpcj$[e-mail]>
References: <4hgi8o$[e-mail]>

In article <4hgi8o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I have done the keypad mod for extended RX, but it doesn't recieve much.
>I read on an FTP site that this it the way to do it. However, at a local
>repair shop, I was able to view a mod book for Icom radios. It cites the
>addition of D-23 (MA132WK) as the RF expansion mod. Has anyone tried
>this? Is it possible that Icom has stopped including this in the W21AT
>radios? I know the keypad mod works on the earlier models..... Perhaps
>they no longer include this diode. In the book, it said to do the keypad
>mod only AFTER inserting the diode/ So, maybe mine TUNES out of band,
but
>requires a diode to actually RECIEVE out of band.. Any experience with
this?
>
>
>Nate, KB9LSX
>
>Thanks alot!
>
Nate,
The diode is for extended tx. If you are trying to receive 800 Mhz forget
it. Its blocked in the cpu.

73
Barry KT4DQ



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KaWin 6.33 supports QRZ! cdrom
Date: 2 Mar 1996 15:39:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4h9q46$[e-mail]>

KaWin Version 6.33 includes full support for the QRZ! Call Sign Database on
CDROM. KaWin offers the only native MS Windows support for Kantronics TNCs in
Host Mode. Download KaWin today from the KaWin Home Page below.
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
email:            [e-mail]
fax:              303 444 2314
KaWin home page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: 5 Mar 1996 10:21:30 -0500
Message-ID: <4hhm5q$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hcps2$[e-mail]>

In article <4hcps2$[e-mail]>,
        Jerry B. Altzman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us
>>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair
>>journalism.  KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525.
>
>Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax...

I'd like to be watching when Drew tries to put a pin through the
transmission line at a television station. Entertainment for the
whole family!

MD
--
--
--  These opinions are mine, all mine, posted from my system at home,
--  paid for with my own money, and if you don't like them... PHHHHHFT!
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: 5 Mar 1996 19:29:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4hi4nm$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hcps2$[e-mail]> <4hhm5q$[e-mail]>

In article <4hhm5q$[e-mail]>,
Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4hcps2$[e-mail]>,
>       Jerry B. Altzman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us
>>>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair
>>>journalism.  KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525.
>>
>>Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax...
>
>I'd like to be watching when Drew tries to put a pin through the
>transmission line at a television station. Entertainment for the
>whole family!
>
>MD

Yes Mike...Drew would instantly be zapped by mega-wattage. Ya know,
someone said a while back that Drew had a metal plate in his head,
wonder if he would be resonant?

You also know his other self-proclaimed way to deal with radio operators
he dislikes is to throw a grappling hook into their tower, and pull it down
with his car via rope. Wouldnt it be fuuny when Drew uses 150' of rope to
pull down a 300' tower...it would squish his '75 Pinto and 11 meter whip
to the ground.  :)

Take care.



--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: 6 Mar 1996 03:36:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4hj172$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hcps2$[e-mail]>

In article <4hcps2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, Bruce Miller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us
>>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair
>>journalism.  KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525.
>
>Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax...
>
>//jbaltz
>--

KING and KOMO-TV stations have both gone totally to the "Geraldo" style of
reporting and "infotainment", often tying entertainment TV shows into their
newscasts. I stopped watching them long ago. Unfortunately, I didn't see the
newscast so cannot comment on it specifically (I don't watch 'em).

Ed, KF7VY

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (WERMUSIC)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 19:42:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4hibhq$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hcps2$[e-mail]> <4hhm5q$[e-mail]>

In article <4hhm5q$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:
>In article <4hcps2$[e-mail]>,
>       Jerry B. Altzman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us
>>>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair
>>>journalism.  KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525.
>>
>>Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax...
>
>I'd like to be watching when Drew tries to put a pin through the
>transmission line at a television station. Entertainment for the
>whole family!
>
>MD


I don't know HOW RESPONSIBLE of an ENG group KING-TV has, but I'll just bet
the scenerio went something like this:

xx:xx am News broke about the HAM story...
xx:10 after careful (as careful as ANY HUNGRY local TV news dept. is) in
reviewing the story they decide to AIR IT... (what the HELL it'll take up some

time")
xx:30 after talking with the "injured parties" an attempt is made to contact
the "DEFENDANT" at home... (no answer)
xx:45 after several tries to contact the individual,... and with an AIR
DEADLINE FAST aproaching... they figgured  What the heck let's just run over
there... we gotta get some FOOTAGE of the antennas anyway... maybe we'll catch

him at home...

>>>>>> the mentality of the "feature driven" and "news poor" locality.

cam


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:07:34
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hcps2$[e-mail]> <4hj172$[e-mail]>


>KING and KOMO-TV stations have both gone totally to the "Geraldo" style of
>reporting and "infotainment", often tying entertainment TV shows into their
>newscasts.

True of KSNW and KAKE here in Wichita too.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham.
Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:48:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4hevrv$[e-mail]>


>The TV people did not arrange to do a fair interview with Erckenbrack;
>instead the crew showed up on his doorstep and did a confrontational
>interview through the front door.

It was his front door wasn't it!!  Why didn't he invite them in?
Then he would have had his "in-depth" interview.

Jack  VE3EED /W7
--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:55 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham.
Date: 5 Mar 1996 11:41:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4hh99l$[e-mail]>
References: <4hevrv$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <4hevrv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE) writes:
>
>>The TV people did not arrange to do a fair interview with Erckenbrack;
>>instead the crew showed up on his doorstep and did a confrontational
>>interview through the front door.
>
>It was his front door wasn't it!!  Why didn't he invite them in?
>Then he would have had his "in-depth" interview.
>
>Jack  VE3EED /W7

so this morning you open your door and find a crew from 20/20 on your doorstep
and they want to know if you've stopped beating your wife. you can't win when
the journalist has entered "assault mode". they got their interview with the
complainers and now the project is the same as they'd use against the dishones
t
business...you aren't going to be prepared to discuss anything with them and
they'll do anything to your answers to make you look like the bad guy (editing
101...excellent example of that on The Simpsons a while back where they took
an OK answer by Homer and turned him into a drooling fool bad guy using his
responses...).

the tv station wants blood for the ratings monster and it IS sweeps right now.
.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Looking for IC-402 acces., 432 yagi, ..
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:52:18 GMT


I have an Icom 402 432 portable. I'm looking for accessories such as
the aerial, the BC20 NiCd charger, the BC15 charger. the IC30L linear,
etc.

I'm also looking for crystals for the 402 for the sat bands, and
a smaller 432 yagi or sat antenna.

73 de N1QVE
Harry



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Luck Hurder, KY1T
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 15:34:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhmv4$[e-mail]>

Luck Hurder, KY1T, will be the special guest this sunday, 3/10/96, on the Ham
Radio & More radio show. Luck will discuss working at the ARRL, the future of
amateur radio as he sees it, the plus's and minus's, no-code's future, and
certain well known personalities in amateur radio. All this and your questions

too. Listen on stations throughout the country or on WWCR shortwave, 5.065mhz,

at 6:00pm ET, 2300 utc.
73,
Len

Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html

The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country.

The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon
days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160.
LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc

Support "WOG". Written only General!!!






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:58 1996
From: [e-mail](Larry Shilkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Luck Hurder, KY1T
Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:44:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhuh4$[e-mail]>
References: <4hhmv4$[e-mail]>

In <4hhmv4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
writes:
>
>
>The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the
country.
>
>The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on
7.435, on Mondays, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160.
>LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc
>
Are you still on satellite?  I tried listening last Sunday with no
luck.

Larry



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:27:59 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 00:42:04 GMT
Subject: MM-3 Morse Machine 3 wanted

I just bought a used MM3 over the net.  I showed it to a friend and
he would like one also.  If you have one sitting around collecting
dust, let me know.  Send price and condition to me here or call me
at my BBS, 804-779-0055 24hours per day.

respond to [e-mail].

Thanks and 7 3
N0RDQ




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Monitor mode on Icom IC-V68
Date: 2 Mar 1996 01:11:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4h8783$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Eugene Kang) s
ays:
>
>How do I use monitor mode on an Icom IC-V68? Pressing FUNC momentarily and
>then holding it down doesn't work.
>
>And how do I get the "Ch x" display? I'm stuck at the display which
>shows the channel number at the side and the frequency on the main
>area. The manual shows "Ch x". I can't reverse the display too.
>
>(x = a channel number)
>
Well Eugene, you need to turn the radio off...
  then press the function + the A key at the sme time while
turning on the radio.
 the display will then turn to a C.
The radio will now wait for the user to input the 4 digit
lock/unlock code. ( default is 1234 )

Hope this helps.

hughes


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:02 1996
From: rec@goodguy (Richard Eyre-Eagles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code
Date: 5 Mar 1996 03:06:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hgb3b$[e-mail]>

There are many people against no-code on HF, so am I.  However I am for
slow code.  Take a look at my ideas at http://www.goodnet.com/~rec/3tier.html

In summary, there would be 3 license classes that all new licensees and
upgrades would go to:

        - CLASS 3 [elements 2, 3(a) and 3(b)]  Everything above 50 MHz

        - CLASS 2 [elements 1(a), 2, 3(a) and (b)]  Frequency privleges
                equivlent to General Class.

        - CLASS 1 [element 1(b) and all writtens] Extra class privs.

In addition, a proposal to allow temporary phone privleges from 7075-7100
in order to facilitate global phone communications on 40 meters until the
world can agree on a new plan for world band 7.

Please see the web page for more details!

http://www.goodnet.com/~rec/3tier.html


--
==================================================================
Richard Eyre-Eagles, KJ7MU    | "The opinions expressed are not
Tempe, Arizona                |  those of anyone but myself"
==================================================================
goodnet is good
primenet is bad
Arizona, you have a choice



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Micales)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code
Date: 6 Mar 1996 02:21:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4hisra$[e-mail]>
References: <4hgb3b$[e-mail]>

In article <4hgb3b$[e-mail]>, rec@goodguy says...

>In summary, there would be 3 license classes that all new licensees and
>upgrades would go to:
>
>        - CLASS 3 [elements 2, 3(a) and 3(b)]  Everything above 50 MHz
>
>        - CLASS 2 [elements 1(a), 2, 3(a) and (b)]  Frequency privleges
>                equivlent to General Class.
>
Would you be willing to "grandfather" the Tech PLUS (received before March
21, 1987) to the CLASS 2 license?  These Tech PLUS (prior to 3/21/87) have
the code, theory, and regulations elements.

Bruce Micales
WA2DEU




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:06 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hgb3b$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:51:55 GMT

Richard Eyre-Eagles (rec@goodguy) wrote:

: In summary, there would be 3 license classes that all new licensees and
: upgrades would go to:

:       - CLASS 3 [elements 2, 3(a) and 3(b)]  Everything above 50 MHz

:       - CLASS 2 [elements 1(a), 2, 3(a) and (b)]  Frequency privleges
:               equivlent to General Class.

:       - CLASS 1 [element 1(b) and all writtens] Extra class privs.

I would agree, except I would keep the 20 wpm requirement for the Extra.
Also, I would like to see the top two licenses have even more difficult
theory.

As an example, one can get all the questions in the pool correct for the
subelement dealing with Smith charts on the Extra exam, without even knowing
how to use the Smith chart.  It would be nice to see examples of solving
cetain types of problems as study material, but the tests requiring the
applicant to actually demonstrate his competence by solving such problems.

No, I do not think that one should have to be an engineer or ET to pass
these exams, and no, I am not for some exclusive "club" at the top.  But
those last two steps on the ladder should represent quite an accomplishment.
It is easy enough to get on the air now, with the no-code license, but
memorizing the question pool for Advanced or Extra seems wrong to me.  It
might surprise you to know how many OT Extras have advocated memorizing or
other shortcuts to me, as I prepare to take the Extra.

Jim - KF6CR
San Bernardino, CA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Wallace)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Need repeater listing for Cincinnati, OH
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 06:52:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlmad$[e-mail]>

I just bought an FT-530 today and forgot to get a repeater directory.
Could somebody please e-mail me the in/out frequencies of a few
repeaters in Cincinnati??? Thank you very much in advance...

KB8IFZ



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:08 1996
From: Robert Bissett <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 14:36:21 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4f3q9o$[e-mail]> <4fa64n$[e-mail]> <4fmimn$[e-mail]> <4g6kv7$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]> Fred <p
[e-mail]> writes:
> >how the hell could he have a General Class Radio/Telephone Oerators
> >ticket from his US Navy days if he has no kind of FCC license.
>
> Once upon a time they *did* expire you know.
>
> >This is
> >starting to sound like a wimp that cannot even grasp the concept of any
> >kind of personal effort.  BTW--when I was in the Navy you got a
> >Radio/Telegraph Operators license as was required by Maritime law for
> >shipboad radio OPs.  You hadda know morse to get that!!!!!!!!!!!  Good
> >thing I got a pair of hip boots to wear.  It's getting pretty deep.
>
> As I recall, military operators aren't required to hold commercial
> certificates of any kind. So if he did get a commercial ticket, it
> was of his own choice, and outside his military duties. Of course,
> once upon a time naval ROs were required to know Morse, but that
> wouldn't apply if he were a radar tech. In that case he may have
> chosen to get a commercial General Radiotelephone with radar
> endorsement for use when he returned to civilian life.
>
> (This isn't intended to defend the outlawry expoused by the flamer,
> just an attempt to show your counter arguments aren't sufficient.)
>
> Gary
> --
> Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
> Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addre
sses
> 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
> Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

Gary, you are absolutely right. Military operators have never been
 and still are not required to have an FCC license. I am retired from
 the Army, and have every day contacts with military operators and none
 have FCC licenses except for the hams  or those moonlighting at
 mobile radio repair shops.
Bob
--
      *********
Bob Bissett      [e-mail]
      *********


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Charles R. Van Buskirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: power supply
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 17:23:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhtb1$[e-mail]>

I need a power supply for a tcr-3 drake or a galaxy 500 both are very old
units. pick up at a auction for 20.00 so any help would be great.
BTW I am not a hamster my father is. If you would like call numbers befor sale

I can get them. Thank
                Rocky


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (prvalko)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QRP Info?
Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:44:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4hevk4$[e-mail]>
References: <4h5qgq$[e-mail]>

Bob Lombardi ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I'm sorry if this is too mundane, but could someone tell me the "preferred"
: QRP hangout frequencies on all HF bands?

Bob,

You may want to subscribe to the QRP listserver!  That is *THE* place on
the net for serious QRP discussions and fun.

Send a message to :     [e-mail]

You don't need a subject line but include the following text on line one

        subscribe qrp-l your_callsign  your_name

expect 30-50 message per day.  The most popular QRP freq is probably
7.040 +/- a couple KHz.

73 =paul= wb8zjl


: Thanks es 73,
: Bob


: --
: Bob Lombardi            WB4EHS in Melbourne, FL          o        \---\---\
: [e-mail]    or   [e-mail]        /\            |
: Telescope making, optics, astronomy, piano, bicycling  -\ 7   & radio |
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:11 1996
From: "COOPER, PAUL WINFIEL" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Question Re:  Yaesu FT-727R and packet radio
Date: 06 MAR 96 01:27:41 EST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a friend that wants to find a previous article in 73 Magazine
about an inexpensive TNC for the Yaesu FT-727R, as well as supporting
CAT software...

Any help would be greatly appreciated... thank you.

Paul
p.s. - please e-mail DIRECTLY to this address... thanks.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:12 1996
From: "Ray D." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Questions for Element 3 of the FCC GROL
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 08:49:36 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am trying to locate the question pool for Element 3 of the FCC
General Radiotelephone Operator's License. Does anyone know where I
might be able to find this information on the Internet?


--
Ray Duchesne

"Pain is inevitable, misery is optional"


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:22:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4heuc1$[e-mail]>

I was listening to NEWSLINE last night.  Two points of interest:

A person operating on 27.774 MHz was fined (and has exhausted all
non-federal appeals) $2,000 by the FCC.

The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).

I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
period.
--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19  QRV 40-10/6/2/440
*** VHF @ <25w, HF @ <5w *** Who says Morse Code is dead? ***
Stuck at 138 cfd with dipoles - QRP-L, QRP ARCI, DXCC/WAS/WAC
72/73 de Suburban DC 301-549-1022 h / 301-982-1015 w  dit dit


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:14 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:59:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4hgaln$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <4heuc1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3
I) writes:
>
>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
>it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
>period.
>--
>Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19  QRV 40-10/6/2/440

Bell South is one of the big shot sponsors. you can bet your Bell South cell p
hone
will not have any problems with security at the Olympics (...from tennesee to
florida... they say that in the local Bell South ads touting their cell radiot
elephone
networks (made by Hughes and Alcatel...wonder how much that little by line
cost 'em?)...i wonder if there will be anything in ATL to see...)

i could be wrong, but i'm betting with the sponsors...wonder what they'll do t
o the
passersby who don't want to have anything to do with the Olympics?

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Francis A. Ney, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:20:21 -0500
Message-ID: <znr826037811k@Digex>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]


In article <4heuc1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

> The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
> around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
> and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
> ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
> band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).
>
> I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
> it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
> period.

Well, that settles it:  the olympics will be a MUST MISS for me...

What a bunch of assholes.

---
Frank Ney  WV/EMT-B VA/EMT-A  N4ZHG  LPWV  NRA(L) GOA CCRKBA LEAA JPFO
Sponsor, BATF Abuse Page http://www.access.digex.net/~croaker/batfabus.html
West Virginia Coordinator, Libertarian Second Amendment Caucus
"[President Bill Clinton] was only the latest in a long line of critics...and
as usual, his motives were suspect, being ostensibly moral but primarily
political, aimed at increasing the power of himself and his party."
        - Christopher Stasheff, speaking as Horace Burbage
          _A Company Of Stars_ (Del Rey, 1991, ISBN 0-345-36889-4)


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (David L. Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 05:50:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlt0h$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]


>The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
>around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
>and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
>ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
>band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).

>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
>it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
>period.
>--
>Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD

Four years ago I and several other active Atlanta area hams contacted
the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games about the possibility of
setting up amateur radio al la recent olympic games where special
stations were set up to contact stations around the world.  I have
beautiful cards from Seoul for example.  The person I spoke with was
not friendly at all, but asked to see one of the cards.  I sent along
one (never did get it back) that fully explained the station and its
reason to be.  The next week I got a terse letter back saying that
ACOG wanted no part of "amateur" activity.

At about the same time, Seattle hosted the WRTC with hams from all
over the world competing against each other.  I took the idea and
placed this in front of several members of ACOG and they told me its
too much trouble, forget it.

Within the last two years ACOG realized that they need help so they
finally reached out to both hams and REACT for volunteer support.  I
understand they are still looking for more volunteers.  But by then
the taste was so bad that I wanted no part of it.  I can't speak for
HT's or cellular phones, but from what I hear there will be many out
there as long as they are held by registered volunteers.  Beware that
to volunteer you need to be available for the entire 2 plus weeks and
be able to work anytime.

I hear that possibily Georgia Tech (W4AQL) or Sci-Trek Museum (STARS)
may have some radio activity as official olympic stations.  Lets hope
so as I personally don't want to let Atlanta go down as the first
olympic games since WW II not to have some type of (all band) olympic
amateur activity.

Dave Thompson, K4JRB



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Richard Eckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: rec.radio.amateur.dx newsgroup status?
Date: 6 Mar 1996 13:08:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4hk2os$[e-mail]>

  Last autumn, an RFD was circulated to start a rec.radio.amateur.dx
newsgroup.  I have a copy of the draft charter and my impression was
that the RFV was ready to be circulated back in October.  However, this
never happened and I haven't heard back from the original proposer in
months.
  Does anyone know what the status of this proposal is?  It seemed
like a good idea and I wonder why it never made it to the request for
vote stage.

Richard Eckman  KO4MR
Hampton, VA


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (CRAIG WILLIAMS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater freq's in CA
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 16:41:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (CRAIG WILLIAMS)
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

D>Maurice Andries wrote:
 >>
 >> Hi everybody,
 >>
 >> For our summer holidays we will be traveling to the southwestern US
 >> and since I always take a tranceiver with me when traveling I would
 >> like to know as many frequencies as possible along the following
 >> route.
 >>
 >> Los Angeles-Las Vegas-Grand Canyon (south rim)-Monument Valley-Grand
 >> Canyon (North rim)-Las Vegas-Sequoia Nat. Forest-Sacramento-Napa
 >> Valley-San Fransisco-Los Angelles (SF-LA via highway 1)
 >>
 >> pse send your replies via e-mail to the address below.
 >>
 >> Thanks
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>  bye, Maurice ([e-mail])
 >>

D>Why don't you buy the ARRL handbook for $8.00. You can get one
 >at any HAM radio Store

D>73
 >jim


Jim,

  Yup, great book (I've got it and the ARRL atlas). But better yet for
the SW is the SW US repeater book (AZ, CO, NV, NM, UT) available from
the Arizona Repeater Assn for $10 + $2 S&H..  PO Box 35758, Phoenix AZ
85069-5758. It has every repeater listed in multiple tables--categorized
by freq, location, state, call sign, geographically by Interstate Hwy
travel, linked system, wide area, etc.

cc: [e-mail]
---
 * OLXWin 1.00b * HAM: KC8BGV / Internet: [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:20 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Repeater freq's in CA, NV, AZ, UT??
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:01:07 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

For Arizona, try http://www.indirect.com/www/ara/

Tony  KC7HDT


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:21 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Repeater freq's in CA, NV, AZ, UT??
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:58:42 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> Jim Daneke
<[e-mail]> writes:

deletions
>
> Why don't you buy the ARRL handbook for $8.00. You can get one
> at any HAM radio Store
>

The 1995 version of the little ARRL Repeater book was almost useless,
at least as regards Arizona repeaters.  Whether it was OK for other
states, I don't know.

Tony  KC7HDT


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Newton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: REQ: Any MOD's for IC25A ?
Date: 1 Mar 1996 19:14:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4h7i9v$[e-mail]>




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: RFD: HOKA User's News Group?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h7042$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:50:27 GMT

Steven Fritts ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (David Feustel) wrote:

: >As a brand new user of HOKA's Code 3 multimode decoder, I'm wondering
: >if HOKA software users have considered setting up either a user's
: >group or a mailing list to discuss use of Code 3. The WUN mailing list
: >does not appear to be appropriate place to discuss Code 3 issues and
: >right now I have a lot of questions about how to use the software.

: Dave,
: I have had a Hoka Code 3 for about two years. A fantastic unit, but it
: does have its quirks. I have long wished for a newsgroup that dealt in
: the Code 3 unit. I assume you have version 5 of the software.
: Will be glad to correspond with you. BTW, there is another user here
: in Knoxville also. We compare notes all the time!
: 73's
: Steve

Another HOKA user emailed me portions of the digital signals faq. I
had no idea of the number of digital data formats being used over the
air. Learning all this stuff will keep me busy for a while.

I'm curious about what percentage of the time the autoclassify mode
successfully identifies a transmission.
--
[e-mail]
Dave Feustel N9MYI      For PGP Public Key, finger [e-mail]
Fort Wayne, IN          Or else access http://www.mixi.net/~feustel/
219-483-1857


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Eddie Seymour)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Searching for a SRF3897 transistor
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 00:44:37 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Lost a SRF3897-9123 transistor in my RFConcepts 2-217 amp. Need a
source for it or a substitute. Thanks.
Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
E-Mail [e-mail]
Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:24 1996
From: Steven Priest <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: SLOW SCAN TV - info needed
Date: 5 Mar 1996 16:49:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4hhrak$[e-mail]>

I am currently doing a project on SSTV, and would be very grateful if
anyone has any information they could send me.

Here are a list of subject areas which would be usful:

History
Present Uses
Hardware Recievers
Circuit Designs, ideas etc

Cheers
Steven Priest



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Mead)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: SLOW SCAN TV - info needed
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 14:54:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4hk8vl$[e-mail]>
References: <4hhrak$[e-mail]> <4hiaje$[e-mail]>

In article <4hiaje$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Hollenback) wr
ote:
>Steven Priest ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: I am currently doing a project on SSTV, and would be very grateful if
>: anyone has any information they could send me.
>
>: Here are a list of subject areas which would be usful:
>
>: History
>: Present Uses
>: Hardware Recievers
>: Circuit Designs, ideas etc
>
>: Cheers
>: Steven Priest
>
>It's fairly simple to get info on SSTV ... Just call CQ on 14.230 kHz.
>--
>Jim Hollenback

Here are some net sites that will be helpfull for your project:

http://www.mindport.net/~jamie/
http://www.alaska.net/~buchholz/
http://www.ultranet.com/~sstv/
http://www.panix.com/clay/ham/
http://www.wolfe.net/~jlbarber/sstv.htm


Good luck.

Glenn - ke4zea


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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Hollenback)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: SLOW SCAN TV - info needed
Date: 5 Mar 1996 21:10:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4hiaje$[e-mail]>
References: <4hhrak$[e-mail]>

Steven Priest ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am currently doing a project on SSTV, and would be very grateful if
: anyone has any information they could send me.

: Here are a list of subject areas which would be usful:

: History
: Present Uses
: Hardware Recievers
: Circuit Designs, ideas etc

: Cheers
: Steven Priest

It's fairly simple to get info on SSTV ... Just call CQ on 14.230 kHz.
--
Jim Hollenback


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:27 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Bob Archer N4ECO <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Sneaky suggestions for fox in foxhunt wanted..
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (archer)
References: <4h09q8$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:36:09 GMT

Some 30 years ago, brother-in-law(WA4WGL) & myself hung a 2
meter ground plane up side down from a bridge about 4 feet off
the water. With a string from shore we would swing the antenna
in a circle while transmitting. There were several bridges over
the river & the signal would bounce off the water, buildings &
all the bridges. The hunters were scattered over a 15 mile area
up & down the river. We were not found until we were asked to
leave the antenna stationary and described the ball field near
the bridge we could see. It was a lot of fun watching &
listening to those guys driving over us on the bridge then going
on to the next bridge, etc.

Bob Archer N4ECO


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:28 1996
From: Don Gowland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: SOS!!!
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:24:32 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4glg3c$[e-mail]>

In article <4glg3c$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes
>I have this trivia sheet that I REALLY need to finish.  One oth
>questions is:
>       The distress signal  SOS has been thought to mean "Save our Ship" or
>"Save our souls" but it really has no meaning.  Why was it chosen.
>       If anyone know the real answer FOR SURE please, for the love of God,
>email me as I cannot keep up with this group.
>               Thanks in advance,
>                       Jason
>
The letters "SOS" have no particular words associated to them.
They were chosen in the early days of Wireless Telegraphy because
they were easy to send and easily recognised.

--
Don Gowland  G4LGA


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:29 1996
From: Charles Bolland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Stand Alone Broadcast Radio Station Database - LW,MW,SW
Date: 2 Mar 1996 21:35:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4haeue$[e-mail]>
References: <4gttsh$[e-mail]> <4gvda8$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Friends,

I'm still sending out the Stand Alone Broadcast Radio Station Database to
whomever wants it.  I would like your mailing address and Email address
for registration and possibly a future letter describing a more
comprehensive database program for radio.  All information will be kept
confidential..

Just answer this posting to "[e-mail]".

The database has more than 4,000 records already and can be edited and
updated.

Hope to hear from you.

Chuck
KA4PRF




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Clint Lancaster)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Technician Plus
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 23:07:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hihf3$[e-mail]>

What is a Technician Plus?

Seems I are one !

CML
WD4KZJ



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:32 1996
From: John Mullan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 16:45:31 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]>

Clint Lancaster wrote:
>
> What is a Technician Plus?
>
> Seems I are one !
>
> CML
> WD4KZJ
Over the years since your license was originally issued the rules have
changed a bit. You had to pass elements 1a (5 wpm), 2 (Novice theory),
and 3 (Tech/General theory). You have the priviliges of a Novice below
30 MHz, and all privileges above. The current Technician class has
passed only element 2 (Novice theory) and 3a (Technician theory), and
has only VHF/UHF privileges. The Technician Plus class of license has
passed elements 1a (5 wpm), 2 (Novice theory), and 3a (Technician
theory). Since your technician license predates the rule change you
qualify as a tech plus. An interesting side note is that you should keep
your original license as it will give you credit for element 3b (General
theory) should you ever want to upgrade.

73 de KD2LQ


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:33 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Tue,  5 Mar 1996 05:15:37 UTC
Subject: The Sex Life of the Electron


                       THE SEX LIFE OF THE ELECTRON

                            by D.C. Current


   One night when his charge was pretty high, Micro-Farad decided
to seek a cute little coil to let him discharge.

   He picked up Millie-Amp and took her for a ride on his Megacycle.
They rode across the Wheatstone Bridge, around the sine waves and
stopped in the magnetic field by a flowing current.

   Micro-Farad, attracted by Millie-Amps characteristic curves, soon
had her fully charged and excited her resistance to a minimum. He laid
her on the ground potential, raised her frequency and lowered her
reluctance.

   He pulled out his high voltage probe and inserted it in her socket
connecting them in parallel, and began short circuiting her resistance
shunt. Fully excited, Millie-Amp mumbled, "OHM - OHM - OHM - OHM".

   With his tube operating at a maximum and her field vibrating with
his current flow, caused her shunt to overheat and Micro-Farad was
rapidly discharged and drained of every electron.

   They fluxed all night, trying various connections and sockets,
until his magnet had a soft core and lost all of it's field strength.

   Afterwards, Millie-Amp tried self induction and damaged her
selenoids. With his battery fully discharged, Micro-Farad was unable
to excite his field, so they spent the rest of the night reversing
polarity and blowing each other's fuses.

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Doug McFadden)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Tubes
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 13:52:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4hesnh$[e-mail]>
References: <4g66be$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (McCarthy) wrote:

>Need 2 tubes:
>12BY7A
>S2001/or 6146B

>                                              Thanks
>                                              Robert KC5RYI
>                                              [e-mail]

Roundup Electronics in Pendleton Or. has exactly what you need.  I got
mine there............. 1-541-276-3152

========================================================================
Doug McFadden,     KC7IMR,      [e-mail],      Irrigon, Oregon
========================================================================
1-541-922-9684     KC7IMR @ WA7HJV



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:36 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <Pine.SV4.3.91.960304175728.3487B-100000@mirage> <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:50:24 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Victor Morange <[e-mail]
m> writes:
-Edwin Clark wrote:
->
-> Is there any other federal laws that affect the use of amateur equipment
-> aboard airlines other that 97.11?
-The FAA states that Pagers, Cellular Phones, Radios including scanners and
-Ham, C.B., general etc. are not allowed to be operated or in use on board an
-aircraft without the approval of the captain of the aircraft.

One of the airlines (US Air Shuttle, Delta?) specifically lists "VHF scanners"
as allowable equipment except during takeoff and landing - it's in the
in-flight magazine.  Transmitters (and mice with tails) are still forbidden.

-Also it maybe wise to
-take of the battery and antenna to get through security.

Actually, I'd leave it in one piece until after security; they usually want
to see it light up or make noise to make sure it isn't a bomb...
Also, if you are carrying spare battery packs, make sure they are either
individually bagged or have an insulator over the terminals; it won't look
too good if your bag starts smoking :-)
/mike
--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai     N1IST
-*- ----------------------------------
/|\     [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:37 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Kim Helliwell)
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <Pine.SV4.3.91.960304175728.3487B-100000@mirage>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:16:57 GMT

Edwin Clark ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Is there any other federal laws that affect the use of amateur equipment
: aboard airlines other that 97.11?

: seems to me I read something a few months back about a complete
: restriction on use because of possible safety of the airplane.

: any help will be appreciated....ed KB0MKH

I don't have my book of FARs (Federal Aeronautical Regulations) with me,
but have been studying them for the Private Pilot's License written test,
and here is what I remember:

Use of Cell Phones is stricly forbidden by the FARs (as well as the FCC
regs).  Actually, the use of any radio device in the plane (when in
flight, which is to say: any time the plane is moving) is prohibited by
the "fact" that the FCC doesn't license anything but the aircraft's radios
for use in the aircraft.

This leaves ham radios in a sort of limbo, because hams carry their licenses
with them; so I think what happens is that it's left to the pilot in
command of the aircraft to determine whether the use of a ham radio
transceiver compromises safety.

All airline carriers probably have policies that discourage the PIC from
allowing the use of ham radios in commercial airliners (anyone have
a counterexample?).  Annoyance of fellow passengers could be as big a
factor here as aircraft safety.  But in small general aviation planes, it's
absolutely up to the PIC.

My sorting out of this legal mess is this: FCC licenses cell phones for
certain venues, which exclude airplanes in flight.  But ham radios are
OK if the PIC determines it's not a safety hazard.

--

"Never let work interfere with your reasons for working."

Kim Helliwell


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:38 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: VHF Communications Magazine
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:46:58 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi Folks,

For subscribers and interested parties:

Issue 1/1996 of VHF Communications is now at the printers and should be
shipped by March 30th.

For more information on the contents of this issue and on subscribing to
the magazine take a look at our Web site:

http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm

Thanks and 73 ... Mike
Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
Web Pages: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:39 1996
From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to AC-SSB ??
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 96 09:55:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4h1tmr$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4h1tmr$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Ken Edwards" writes:

> A few years ago ther was alot of talk about Amplitude Compandored Single-Sid
e
> Band communications.
>
> Haven't heard much about it lately.
>
> Any pointers on info ?

It's being marketed (very successfully) in the UK by Securicor as
'LINEAR MODULATION'

I toured the factory (near Bath, UK) last year and saw a large number
of radios being soak tested - these were badged with another vendor's
name, and were destined for Chicago.

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:40 1996
From: Leila Henderson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: When does the Foothill College Swap in Los Altos, CA, start?
Date: 2 Mar 1996 04:27:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4h8inj$[e-mail]>
References: <4gd2lf$[e-mail]> <4h5ulh$[e-mail]> <4h63tj$[e-mail]>

: Title says it all. . . .

: I think it starts back up on March 9th, but I want to confirm (I live 5
: hours away so I don't want to find an empty parking lot when I get
: there!

: Thanks!!!

: John
: KE6TGN

   The Foothill Electronic Flea Market is held the second Saturday of
each month from March thru September. The first one is March 9th

   "Le" KB6MXH




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:41 1996
From: Dave Donkers <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics,equipment,sci.electronics.repair
Subject: WTD: Schematic - SM150 Heath Freq. Ctr.
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 15:06:31 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Greetings --

I am looking for a copy of the schematic or manual for a
Heath/Schlumberger Model SM-150A Frequency Counter,
vintage mid-1970's (from datecodes on chips).

Please reply with possible source or, if you have one, I will pay
copy/postage/fax costs. I am also able to recieve scanned images.

Dave N9FLA


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:42 1996
From: Geoff Brown <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WWW Pages NEW!
Date: 1 Mar 1996 21:04:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4h7oov$[e-mail]>

Readers may like to know that many additions have been
added to the Jersey Radio WWW pages.

Try http://user.itl.net/~equinox

Contest list, Special 50MHz Newsletter,EME News, Beacon News, cluster,
SSTV, Packet info, digital eq, Icom/Kenwood/Yaseu, over 500 links plus
weather news from all over the globe, Internet searching systems,
"Certainly the best radio pages on the Net" as the visitors say!
Try them and see!



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WWW Pages Update
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 19:18:14 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Updated and improved for March:

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

Still going strong. SWL Pages included. Lots of visitors worldwide to
date. Keep 'em coming. Support your pages!

73 de
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:44 1996
From: Pierre-Andre Rovelli <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WWW-ham site in HB9
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 12:50:37 +0100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Check out my Homepage at http://www.spectraweb.ch/~provel/rovex.htm for
 links to amateur radio sites in Switzerland.
 It's still under construction but I plan to add many ham tools
 especially
 for the DX'ers and antenna designers. It also provide information about
 the use of Linux operating system for ham applications. If you like it
 or
 have any suggestions, please email me !

 Pierre-AndrΘ Rovelli
 HB9FMN
 [e-mail]
 [e-mail]
 [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:45 1996
From: [e-mail](Jim Sheffield)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: XTALS wanted
Date: 4 Mar 1996 18:10:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4hfbng$[e-mail]>

I've got a Drake 2-NT that I would like to get on
the air.  I'm looking for transmitting crystals in the
range of 7.01 - 7.150, especially 7.01 - 7.03.

Thanks and 73,
Jim, KB7ET
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:46 1996
From: "COOPER, PAUL WINFIEL" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Yaesu FT-727R and CAT system/ TNC  Question...
Date: 06 MAR 96 01:34:10 EST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have a friend who is seeking an article from 73 Magazine regarding
the Yaesu FT-727R and the CAT software that supports it... any info.
regarding this would be appreciated... thank you.

Paul

p.s. - please e-mail DIRECTLY to my address... thanks again.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 10:28:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT2500M modification
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4g0juu$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:44:28 GMT

Monty Richard Fritts ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I would like to find the modification for the Yaesu FT2500M. I need the modi
fication to allow it to transmit out of band.


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 5 Mar 1996 23:06:37 -0500
Message-ID: <4hj30d$[e-mail]>
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <4hdbpb$[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.91.960305104534.29234D-100000@seatimes>

Steve Butler ([e-mail]) wrote:

: On 3 Mar 1996, Steve - KF2TI wrote:
: > >  : from driving around wearing Walkman headsets and thus not able to hea
r
: > >  : warning sounds.
: > >
: > >     The absurdity of this, of course, is that in a modern sedan with the
: > >  windows closed and the radio turned on, the driver will hear even less
: > >  than if he had full closure double earphones.
: > >
: >
: > Also affects those who have 1 earpiece boom/mike headsets
: >

: One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive.  Certainly they should be
: required to hear before getting a license!

<snip>
   I agree that sirens are something to listen for, but the poor
directionality of sound waves in the car environment really makes
the interpetation of what you hear very difficult.  Ever figure out
who was that blowing the horn, and why was it being blown?

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 10 Mar 1996 17:10:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4hv2ed$[e-mail]>


>Regardless, I for one strongly would prefer to see stern laws made
>and enforced against using hand-held phones (or "like" devices) while
>driving.
>
>Tony  KC7HDT

How old are you, Tony?  Maybe you shouldn't drive anymore!

Jack  VE3EED/W7
--


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dennis/Vivian Ashworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 9 Mar 96 05:03:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

info



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (prvalko)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: *** New Ten Tec 2 Meter XCVR Kit! ***
Date: 7 Mar 1996 14:31:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4hms0b$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4tvd$[e-mail]> <4h8ijc$[e-mail]>

Ed Mitchell ([e-mail]) wrote:

: About $200. I just got the $95 20m to 6m transverter and have started work o
n
: it. Its a very nice kit. Not quite up to Heathkit standards but very close.

Really.  I thought is was slightly better than a Heathkit.  The manual was
substantially easier to use as it is a ring binding and lays flat.  No
Heathkit I ever built had test procedures after finishing sections of
the unit either.

When asked, I ususally say that the Ten Tec 6M transverter is probably
the best $100 I've ever spent on a ham radio item.

73 =paul= wb8zjl



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: *** New Ten Tec 2 Meter XCVR Kit! ***
Date: 7 Mar 1996 18:58:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4hnblj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4tvd$[e-mail]> <4h8ijc$[e-mail]> <4hms0b$[e-mail]>

>: About $200. I just got the $95 20m to 6m transverter and have started work
on
>: it. Its a very nice kit. Not quite up to Heathkit standards but very close.
>
>Really.  I thought is was slightly better than a Heathkit.  The manual was
>substantially easier to use as it is a ring binding and lays flat.  No
>Heathkit I ever built had test procedures after finishing sections of
>the unit either.
>
>When asked, I ususally say that the Ten Tec 6M transverter is probably
>the best $100 I've ever spent on a ham radio item.

I have to agree completely with Paul.  The manuals for Heath and Ten-Tec are
both good, and the Ten-Tec offers section-by-section testing.

I'd say the PCB and enclosure are of equal or better quality in the TT, too.

--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19  QRV 40-10/6/2/440
*** VHF @ <25w, HF @ <5w *** Who says Morse Code is dead? ***
Stuck at 138 cfd with dipoles - QRP-L, QRP ARCI, DXCC/WAS/WAC
72/73 de Suburban DC 301-549-1022 h / 301-982-1015 w  dit dit


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: *** New Ten Tec 2 Meter XCVR Kit! ***
Date: 9 Mar 1996 22:09:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4hsvib$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4tvd$[e-mail]> <4h8ijc$[e-mail]> <4hms0b$[e-mail]>

In article <4hms0b$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Ed Mitchell ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: About $200. I just got the $95 20m to 6m transverter and have started work
on
>: it. Its a very nice kit. Not quite up to Heathkit standards but very close.
>
>Really.  I thought is was slightly better than a Heathkit.  The manual was
>substantially easier to use as it is a ring binding and lays flat.  No
>Heathkit I ever built had test procedures after finishing sections of
>the unit either.
>
>When asked, I ususally say that the Ten Tec 6M transverter is probably
>the best $100 I've ever spent on a ham radio item.
>
>73 =paul= wb8zjl
>

I didn't mean to imply anything negative on the Ten-Tec kit.  Maybe a better
way is to say that there are "differences" between the Heathkit approach and
the Ten-Tec approach. You are correct that Ten-Tec has some nice intermediate
tests that Heath may have neglected - it kind of depends on which kits we
probably built back in the old days. In any case, I enthusiastically endorse
the Ten-Tec 6m transverter kit!

I'm also glad to see a reputable company selling kits again. After I finish th
e
6m xverter, I can see building another - in fact, I'm thinking of doing a join
t
project with my 8 1/2 year old daughter to assist her in building a SW receive
r
kit. I've had her helping me with component placement and soldering and she's
loving it! Kind of exciting for Dad to see one of the kids getting into this
too.

Ed, KF7VY

------------------------
personal email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: **FS : WINDOW'95 CD UPGRADE  $50 **
Date: 10 Mar 1996 16:37:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hv0gq$[e-mail]>

SUBJECT: ** FS : WINDOWS'95 CD UPGRADE $50 **

I have still available a few Windows '95 CD-ROM Upgrade kits.

These are new, sealed, Microsoft Windows '95 CD-ROM Upgrade
Kits received with a computer order that I don not intend to use
with the computers they were received for.

These kits include the manual, CD-ROM disk, software registration
card, and Microsoft holographic Certificate of Authenticity.

The price is $ 50.00 each shipped by 2nd Day Priority Mail.

Send a check to  :

     Robert Reed WB2DIN
     538 Brewers Bridge Road
     Jackson, New Jersey 08527

     TEL : [phone]



73, Bob, WB2DIN


-
  ROBERT REED, WB2DIN           [e-mail]
  538 Brewers Bridge Road
  Jackson, New Jersey 08527      PACKET  WB2DIN@WT3V




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:40 1996
From: Robert Bissett <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 20:39:27 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: Ingvar Eriksson <[e-mail]>

Ingvar Eriksson wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me what stations are involved in the 14100kHz beacon net?
> Callsigns and timeslots etc.
> It is interesting to listen to this frequency during the day and see how
> condx are changing in various directions as time goes by.
>
> 73 de Ingvar/SM7DUZ (e-mail to [e-mail] much appreciated)

Ingvar, I have not monitored the beacon freq for some time as here
 (about 30 miles from New York City) the packet interference is a bit
 too much to handle.
 Here is what it was: Beginning on the hour and every 10 minutes
each station --100 watts to a vertical antenna---  Sends ID
 and then short carrier at 100 watts then 10 watts  then 1 watt and
finally 100 milliwatts. Then ID again at 100 watts .  This is 24
 hour operation.


order of stations    00 minute    4U1UN/B
                     01           W6WX/B
                     02           KH6O/B
                     03           JA2IGY/B
                     04           4X6TU/B
                     05           OH2B
                     06           CT3B
                     07           ZS6DN/B
                     08           LU4AA/B
                     09           HK4LR/B

There may have been changes. I have never heard the last two, probably
 because of the local nterference.      Goog luck.

Bob    ND2L






--
      *********
Bob Bissett      [e-mail]
      *********


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:56:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4hn4fo$[e-mail]>
References: <4hmsv9$[e-mail]>

In article <4hmsv9$[e-mail]>,
john p. sumner <[e-mail]> wrote:

>  Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt and
>   people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks.
>
>John P. Sumner
>[e-mail]

I believe their names are Drew and Burt. Someone told me once that they are
Father & Son.

Take care.

--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Date: 8 Mar 1996 03:39:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hoa5e$[e-mail]>
References: <4hmsv9$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (john p. sumner) wrote:
>
>--
>  Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt
and
>   people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks.


Me, too.  And I thought only no-coders were responsible for this kind of
thing. I mean, here these guys have at least 13WPM..."real hams", in
other words, and yet they're some of the worst scum to be found on the
amateur bands.  Imagine that!

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Date: 10 Mar 1996 04:20:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4htl9s$[e-mail]>
References: <4hmsv9$[e-mail]> <4hoa5e$[e-mail]> <4htcde$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Peter C. Markham) wrote:
>
>In article <4hoa5e$[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>>[e-mail] (john p. sumner) wrote:
>>>
>>>--
>>>  Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt

>>and
>>>   people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks.
>>
>>
>>Me, too.  And I thought only no-coders were responsible for this kind
of
>>thing. I mean, here these guys have at least 13WPM..."real hams", in
>>other words, and yet they're some of the worst scum to be found on the

>>amateur bands.  Imagine that!
>>
>>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>> KF4DDM
>>
>
>Without wasting my time listening to that which I despise, I get the
>impression, from this posting, that you wish to piss with the big dogs,
but
>can only watch from the porch. Chances are, the "scum" earned the
>privelege to be on that frequency, regardless of the "porkbutt" and
"jam".

Would you please explain to me how one goes about "earning the privilege"
to cause malicious interference to other stations and use profanity?
Both of these activities are clearly prohibited in Part 97 but commonly
practiced on 3894.5.

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:44 1996
From: Robert Bissett <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 20:13:03 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hmsv9$[e-mail]>

john p. sumner wrote:
>
> --
>   Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt and
>    people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks.
> John P. Sumner
> [e-mail]

I was told that 3894.5 was the National Tune-up and Test Frequency.
 Is that true?

ND2L
--
      *********
Bob Bissett      [e-mail]
      *********


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peter C. Markham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:25:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4ht7hu$[e-mail]>
References: <4hoa5e$[e-mail]> <4hqgt2$[e-mail]>

In article <4hqgt2$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ wrote:
Amen!


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Dvoracek)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 50 mhz FM operating practices
Date: 8 Mar 1996 07:01:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4hom0u$[e-mail]>

Does anyone know, or know where to look to find, 50 mhz FM operating
practices?  I have just put a commercial FM radio onto 50 mhz and need
to learn about standard operating practices.  I know about the national
simplex frequency, but if you make contact, do you move up or down a
standard amount to free the calling frequency?  Since this radio is
channelized and must be programmed off-line, I would like to put this
information in ahead of time.  Is there a 50 mhz repeater directory
available online?  I have been off the air quite some time, and would
appreciate any help.

tnx es cul de KE5C


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Whitehurst)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 6 Meter DX/etc organizations/info
Date: 8 Mar 1996 16:16:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hpmgj$[e-mail]>

        Does anyone know of any 6Meter newsletters/organizations?? Any on the
Web/internet ?? Tnx. N4ZGT David.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:47 1996
From: Geoff Brown <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 6 Meter DX/etc organizations/info
Date: 10 Mar 1996 17:12:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4hv2hr$[e-mail]>
References: <4hppod$[e-mail]>

Try http://user.itl.net/~equinox
There you will find daily dx reports re everything on 50MHz.
Beacons, TV listings in fact everything from around the globe, and it's
free.
We also mail out Internet Six News each month via Email
Geoff GJ4ICD



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 73 Magazine Begins Paying Last Years Authors
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 17:29:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4hkhj0$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Steve Sampson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I was shocked to find an envelope in my mailbox for an article I did a year a
go
>for 73.  Nothing else was in the envelope besides a check, so I don't know wh
y
>they decided to begin paying authors again.  Maybe they are cleaning up the b
ooks
>before selling, or possibly they found a new (ethical) Editor.

>Go figure...

Was it a single article or a regular column?

TTUL
Gary





From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:48 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: a - where/when 1st ham repeater?
Date: 9 Mar 1996 11:32:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4hrq80$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

I can't confirm the LA location of the first repeater but do know that
there was an AM repeater in Reno Nevada (Mt. Rose) in late fifties or
early sixties. It was in my garage at one time.
Bill K7NOM




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: a - where/when 1st ham repeater?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 8 Mar 96 18:49:14 EST
References: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In article <[e-mail]>, jenglish <[e-mail]> wr
ites:
> Our local YL net entertains itself with a weekly amateur radio
> "trivia" question. This week it is "where, when and near what famous
> landmark was the first amateur radio repeater used?"
>
> Please leave your thoughts here, and also email to me at
> [e-mail].
> Thanks
> Jane English KD6PCE

Hi Jane,
I believe it was in LA, in the late sixties and was 2M AM. Somebody want to
confirm this?

Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Towle)
Subject: RE: Airport/Aircraft Regulations
Date: 11 Mar 96 06:39:04 -0800
References: <4hd526$[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

John,

The regulations against using handhelds on the aircraft are
comparable to fears about walking under ladders, or stepping on
cracks in the sidewalk. Unfortunately, the regulations have the
weight of law once you step into the aircraft.

Over the years, I've used 2-meter radios on commercial flights (after
asking permission) and it is interesting, even if you only listen to
the number of repeaters you can hear simultaneously.

The basic problem is that airlines have lots of things to worry
about, and if an aircraft did crash, and a ham was onboard using a
radio, you can be sure than an attorney somewhere would say that it
was the radio that caused the problem, or the airlines should have
known about the radio (even if it had nothing whatever to do with
problems). It is based on the same sort of science that says brain
tumors result from using mobile phones.

Jeff


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gregory Gilmore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: alt.ham-radio.dxing  ??
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 17:45:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4hsfu1$[e-mail]>
References: <4hp8jb$[e-mail]>

Gary Stone <[e-mail]> wrote:


>alt.ham-radio.dxing

>Are others able to get this newsgroup or is this a fluke of my server or
>..??

        I'm unable to get it on my server here in New Brunswick, although
there are some "alt.ham-radio" groups listed.

73 Greg.




>       /\__/\        Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT)
>        0  0         E-Mail:  [e-mail]
>         @               or    [e-mail]
>       (_/\_)        Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone
>         ~~



Gregory Gilmore,VE1XH
Keswick Ridge
New Brunswick
Canada

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Cliff Davies)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: alt.ham-radio.dxing  ??
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:08:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4hs0v2$[e-mail]>
References: <4hp8jb$[e-mail]>

In message <4hp8jb$[e-mail]>
        Gary Stone <[e-mail]> writes:

> alt.ham-radio.dxing

> Are others able to get this newsgroup or is this a fluke of my server or
> ..??

Yip, but not very active :-}}--
 Cliff

Life is   --. .. ...-- .... -. --



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:53 1996
From: Gary Stone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: alt.ham-radio.dxing  ??
Date: 8 Mar 1996 12:18:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4hp8jb$[e-mail]>

I was doing a complete listing from my server a few days ago and this
newsgroup is listed.  I posted to the group with no problem.

alt.ham-radio.dxing

Are others able to get this newsgroup or is this a fluke of my server or
..??

73 de N5PHT

Gary



--

       /\__/\        Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT)
        0  0         E-Mail:  [e-mail]
         @               or    [e-mail]
       (_/\_)        Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone
         ~~




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:53 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (SCN User)
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline. ( Looking for ).
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (SCN User)
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:50:22 GMT


Can anyone tell me where I can find Newsline on the Web?  The home page
at ncsu usually has it but there haven't been any new postings since the
end of January.

I am specificly looking for the bulletin that came out on Feb. 23 1996.

Thanks in advance

Kerwin, N7JGW


--
*****************************************************************************
                                     *    They know who you are...
         [e-mail]               *     They know where you live...
                                     *      And there's no doubt about it!


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:55 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: An ex ham:
Date: 8 Mar 1996 03:13:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4ho8kq$[e-mail]>
References: <4h4acv$[e-mail]>

I need to thank all of you who have written me, inviting me back into your wor
ld.
There is something with you folks that stirs up great nostalgic memories. If I
 may,
I'll share one with you. I was  young. Young young young. I had a bent dipole
on
the roof of my apartment building...I think it stretched into forever on each
leg. I
remember evenings when I would key my transmitter, run to the roof with a port
able
radio and a flourescent bulb, turn on WQXR, and wave my "wand", now lit with R
F,
as I conducted my orchestra, alone, a lunatic ham let loose in the dark of nig
ht.
Anyway, I haven't thought of these things in years. I've linked all the amatue
r radio
newsgroups on my site under the section of "Search Engines and other Wondrous
Sites"  Thanks again for the invites. Time truly prevents me from getting back
 into it
at this moment.
Benjamin Mark
>
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Fellows)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: 4 Mar 1996 22:30:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4hfqtn$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>   <4hdlvj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] writes:
|> Paul,
|>
|> That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only
|> one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought
|> such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342.
|>
|> Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to
|> cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract.
|> However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent
|> on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of
|> this product or companies under infringement.
|>
|> Gaerhardt G. Herbst
|>


What I am wondering is what this has anything to do with amateur radio antenna
s,
homebrew, space, etc.?  The point is that this, and the preceding posts were
made to the amateur radio news groups.

Cooling of microprocessors, and your grandstanding of being awarded a patent a
re
of no interest to me or in any way pertinent to my interest in amateur radio.
And that is why the newsgroup(s) have those titles.

If you are looking for invetors, get a clue and do it somewhere else.

If you are simply so proud of yourself for being awarded a patent for what
appears to be anothers work, then HIP HIP HOORAY for you!  Now grow up and go
away.

Jim


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Laughton)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 06:50:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4hgo64$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>  <4hdlvj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

>Paul,

>That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only
>one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought
>such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342.

>Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to
>cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract.
>However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent
>on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of
>this product or companies under infringement.

>Gaerhardt G. Herbst

I am sorry if my statement upset you. It is just that I have seen so
many patents issued for which there is substantial prior art. Usually,
no one bothers to dispute these patents unless the patent holder
attempts to assert his or her 'rights.' Then it is a matter of who has
the most bucks to give to lawyers. The only people that really win in
these case are the lawyers.

I really do not know the details of your patent and what your claims
are. I just know that cooling of IC's has been used for many years to
stabilize ICs against environemental changes. Besides IBM, Amdahl,
etc, there are numerous military applications of the technique.

Closer to home, in the world of CCD imaging we have had TE cooled and
requlated ICs for many years. The cooling of CCDs is used  1) to lower
the thermoelectic noise and 2)  keep the noise (a function of
temperature) at a constant value (via feedback regulation).

The fact that no one else has attempted to patent this idea is
probably due to fact of its total lack of novelty. On the other hand,
since I can not imagine what you did come up with that is novel in
this arena, maybe you really do have something that is unique and of
value.

In any case, good luck.

-Paul



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:15:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan sawyer)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 04:16:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hlv15$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hg97g$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Correct you Charles.
>>
>> Gerhardt G. Herbst
>>
>Whoops...I mean correct you are Charles...
>
>Gerhardt
>

In 1982 I put a Peltier Cooler on a 8087 coprocessor in an IBM computer in an
effort
to speed up the clock.  I had a PC board made and along with schematics and
documentation. This progressed into modules for 80287's.   In fact I hold the
record for
the highest speed attained using a 80287 in an IBM AT computer by cooling the
80287 down to -50 deg C.

I therefore have prior documented art on this invention and demand all royatie
s should
be sent to me.  <grin>

Jonathan Sawyer

FreeWave Technolgies




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Laughton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.astro.amateur
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 06:17:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4hjal5$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>   <4hgr8o$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) wrote:

>In article <4hgr8o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Paul Laughton) wri
tes:
>> [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>>Paul,
>>
>>>That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only
>>>one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought
>>>such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342.
>>
>>>Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to
>>>cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract.
>>>However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent
>>>on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of
>>>this product or companies under infringement.
>>
>>>Gaerhardt G. Herbst
>>
>> Having too much time on my hands, I went and looked at your patent.
>> The first part of the patent describes the exact CCD cooling method
>> used for years by Santa Barbara Instruments (and others) for cooling
>> CCDs. Your novel claim seems to be an IC cooler that is retrofitted to
>> an existing, uncooled IC.
>>
>> <Yawn>
>Are these the same Peltier(sp?) devices that you can pick up surplus from
>places like Marlin P. Jones and Edmund Scientific for like $12.95?
>Just curious,
>Joe - AA3GN
>--
>Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, P
A
>[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course.
.

Yep. Peltier Junctions. Very Cool (or hot) devices!   :->

-Paul



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Laughton)
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 02:54:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4hdlvj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:


>Gerhardt G. Herbst II, is the patent holder for "Cold Spot Module".
>This product is for sale to an individual or manufacturer.

>The "Cold Spot Module" is used to effectively reduce the operating
>temperature of integrated circuits such as computer CPUs to maintain
>reliability under extreme operating conditions. This module is protected
>under a U.S. Utility Patent issued in October of 1995. A Utility patent
>provides the strongest protection under U.S. law.

>An independent North American Market Study was done on the product and the
>potential market has been identified.

>The product has not yet been introduced to the general public but is referenc
ed
>in the U.S. Patent catalog which is posted periodically. For an on-line refer
ence
>refer to:



>http://www.uspto.gov

>Search on Patent Number: 5457342

>The title abstract is: Integrated circuit cooling apparatus

>Note: A search on just the patent number will bring up the details.



>Exclusive rights can be purchased reasonably with negotiable license term.

>For further information, contact Gerhardt G. Herbst II.

>                                       Gerhardt G. Herbst II
>                                       133 Wynstay
>                                        Valley Park, MO 63088
>                                       Phone:  [phone]
>                                       E-mail: [e-mail]

I wonder how Mr Herbst slipped this one past the prior art
investigation? This technology has been around since the early 70's -
at least. For example, IBM and Amdahl main frames made extensive use
of it.





From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:02 1996
From: [e-mail](Charles Tutt )
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:34:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4hg97g$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>  <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:
>
>Paul,
>
>That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with
only
>one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else
sought
>such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent #
5457342.
>
>Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect
to
>cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my
abstract.
>However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a
patent
>on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development
of
>this product or companies under infringement.
>
>Gaerhardt G. Herbst
>
I believe your final statement is too broad.  You may "preclude others
from practicing your invention" is closer to the correct formulation.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:04 1996
From: Steve Phillips <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 06:41:49 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>  <4hdlvj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hgr8o$[e-mail]>

Paul Laughton wrote:


> Having too much time on my hands, I went and looked at your patent.
> The first part of the patent describes the exact CCD cooling method
> used for years by Santa Barbara Instruments (and others) for cooling
> CCDs. Your novel claim seems to be an IC cooler that is retrofitted to
> an existing, uncooled IC.
>
> <Yawn>

I am not familiar with either this patent or this technology, so I cannot
comment on specifics.  But we all should remember that the only "part of
the patent" that has much relevance to what the patent legally covers is
the claims at the end.  It is possible to have dozens, even hundreds of
narrow patents validly cover different aspects or variations of the same
technology.

I've seen too many of these debates break down into nothing more than
whether what is described in the title of a patent is valid in light of
some prior art, which, BTW, can be a publication or sale of a device as
well as a previous patent.  The answer is almost completely irrelevant.

Steve Phillips,
[e-mail]

(Although I am an attorney, this should not be considered legal advice.)


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:05 1996
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Fred McKenzie)
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 17:29:01 -0500
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] wrote:
> That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only
> one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought
> such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342.

Gaerhardt-

I think some of us have jumped to the erroneous conclusion that your
invention duplicates prior art.  On the other hand, your statements do not
clearly show how it is different from prior art.

You are looking for investors to finance development of a product that on
the surface, appears to be old technology.  I suggest you revise your
"sales pitch", so that it is clear that your invention is (a) new, and (b)
of commercial value.  In other words, why would one want to use your
invention instead of existing spot-cooling techniques?

73, Fred, K4DII


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:06 1996
From: [e-mail](Jim Sheffield)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARK QRP transceivers
Date: 6 Mar 1996 18:54:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4hkn0b$[e-mail]>

Hello:  Have gotten the "bug" to try the 30M ARK
QRP transceiver kit.  Would appreciate comments on
the radio and kit.  They seem expensive - are they
worth the $$$?

73 de Jim, KB7ET
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:07 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4n57$fa8$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hh8ud$[e-mail]> <4hkigc$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:58:52 GMT

In article <4hkigc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (James W
. KELLEY) writes:
>From the perspective of an "outsider", this problem appears to have been
>created by some poor planning on the part of the NVEC.  Their actions
>cause one to suspect hidden agendas and ulterior motives.  The last thing
>we need is another private club attempting to guide the destiny of amateur
>radio.

You mean in *addition* to the ARRL? :-)

Actually, I'd like to see some additional strong voices for the amateur
community. A one party state isn't healthy.

>On the other side, the ARRL's petition to the FCC is not unlike that of a
>bickering old lady.  While the legal basis for these particular requests
>may have been the best approach available, seeking to censure VEC's for
>their participation in the group seems to lack professional attitude.
>
>As an amateur radio operator, I find this debacle a personal
>embarrassment.  It's difficult not to find both parties at fault.  I hope
>that publicity of this problem does not find it's way to the general
>public - bad enough we had to go tell the FCC on them.

Yeah, there seems adequate blame to go around for all parties to this
debacle. It appears to me that the ARRL has a hidden agenda here too.
They didn't want to be put on an equal footing with other VECs. I don't
believe for a second that their primary concern was for Mr. Jahnke's
legal exposure. A corporation exists to *limit* personal liability.
Mr. Jahnke was far more exposed participating in an *unincorporated*
entity.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:08 1996
From: Scotty Neustadter <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 00:08:07 -0600
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4n57$fa8$[e-mail]>
To: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>

Hans Brakob wrote:
>
> Gary,
>    ARRL did not "gather up their marbles and go home".
> Their marbles were confiscated and they were removed from
> the game because they declined to pledge allegiance to NCVEC.
> The question pool committee cannot be a committee restricted
> only to members of the NCVEC, Inc. There is no agreement
> between the FCC and the NCVEC, Inc. The agreements are
> between the FCC and the individual organizations that serve
> as VECs. The QPC is a child of FCC, not NCVEC, so NCVEC
> cannot impose "conditions" on participation.  The FCC rules
> bind all VECs to cooperate in maintaining a question pool
> for each written examination element. A few VECs, even a
> majority of VECs, cannot unilaterally create a corporation
> as a mechanism for maintaining the pools and then exclude
> other VECs who do not choose to participate in that corporation.
> ARRL is not alone in choosing to not participate in the
> corporation, but even if they were, it would make no
> difference.
>    By the way, since the question pools are public, there is no
> particular advantage to a publisher to be on the committee. You
> and I could publish study guides just as easily as ARRL or W5YI.
> With your brains and my looks, we would corner the market.
>
> --
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>
> --Support your local Amateur Radio clubs.The ARRL was never asked to "pledge
 allegiance" to NCVEC, they were
invited to place a member on the board, they declined and asked NCVEC,
Inc not to talk to their employees nor take any action that might imply
that the ARRL was party to NCVEC.  Given this edict from the ARRL, NCVEC
had no choice but to sever its tied with the ARRL employee who was on
the QPC

73

Scotty


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:09 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4n57$fa8$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hh8ud$[e-mail]> <4hkigc$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:48:10 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Johnny) wri
tes:
>Parties cannot avoid partnership liability, even by expressly
>declaring themselves otherwise, if the facts show that the
>entity was in fact, a partnership.  ie, they each share a
>similar amount of responsibility, they each share a similar
>amount of benefit, they each ...

Ah, a *sham* corporation. I understand this concept.

Gary

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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:10 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:04:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4hl266$[e-mail]>
References: <4gqas7$[e-mail]>

OK you all, I'm impressed with everyones response.  Both sides have make
their point in a very professional manner, unlike the various CW debates.
Could any of you get an "offical" response on this question from the ARRL
and the NCVEC,inc.?  Since, I am the one that started this thread, I propose
that we get on "LAST" response from those in authority, then end this.  I am
sure both camps are aware of this discussion.

It has been very interesting and informative.  I don't know who is right, or i
f
there is a right position.  I would be interested in reading an "offical" resp
onse.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sid George, CPA     [e-mail]
._  _...  .....  _.._  .._
http://www.hal-pc.org/~sid
-------------------------------------



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:11 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:36:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4i073a$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4n57$fa8$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hs3qd$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <4hs3qd$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Michael
P. Deignan) writes:
>A similar analogy would be if all the VECs joined a locally-incorporated
>radio club. Does the radio club then have the authority to maintain the
>question pools? The answer is, of course, no. Only the individually
>recognized VECs do, cooperating together. The fact that the VECs are
>still cooperating together is irrelevant, since the VECs are no longer the
>legal entities that the work is being performed under.

probably the right thing to have been created is a model similar to Aeronautic
al
Radio, Inc. - ARINC - where the airlines and other companies in the aviation b
iz
work out the standards and practices. the Radio Technical Commission on
Aeronautics seems to be the body that handles things like enviromental specs
(ratings for altitude, humidity, explosionproofness, etc.)

so there'd be "Q-Pool Inc" that would have as members the VECs in the US.
all VECs would support this central clearing house that would not have officia
l
standing with the government because the operating reason for Q-Pool would
be to coordinate the VEC "underactivies" that need doing and coordination a
central organization would provide but w/o the problems of having them report
to the FCC as well.

i can see a need for a body that will "outlive" the founders of the VE program
.
maybe it should have been top down instead of this "sideways" approach.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee
Date: 6 Mar 1996 17:37:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4hkigc$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h4n57$fa8$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hh8ud$[e-mail]>

From the perspective of an "outsider", this problem appears to have been
created by some poor planning on the part of the NVEC.  Their actions
cause one to suspect hidden agendas and ulterior motives.  The last thing
we need is another private club attempting to guide the destiny of amateur
radio.

On the other side, the ARRL's petition to the FCC is not unlike that of a
bickering old lady.  While the legal basis for these particular requests
may have been the best approach available, seeking to censure VEC's for
their participation in the group seems to lack professional attitude.

As an amateur radio operator, I find this debacle a personal
embarrassment.  It's difficult not to find both parties at fault.  I hope
that publicity of this problem does not find it's way to the general
public - bad enough we had to go tell the FCC on them.

KE6JPO


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:13 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLD014 DX news
Date: 7 Mar 1996 17:44:47 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB DX @ ARL $ARLD014
ARLD014 DX news

ZCZC AE56
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 14  ARLD014
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  March 7, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB DX ARL ARLD014
ARLD014 DX news

This week's bulletin was made possible with info provided by Mauro,
I1JQJ, Johnny, LA5IIA, Morten, LA9GY, Uwe, DL9GOA, Tedd, KB8NW, the
OPDX Bulletin and Contest Corral from QST.  Thanks to all.

TONGA, A3.  Morten, LA9GY, will operate from Tonga March 16 to April
4, including action in the CQ WW WPX contest.  He hopes to secure
use of the call A35GY.  Morten prefers CW but will operate some SSB.
QSL via LA9GY.

VIETNAM, 3W.  Nikolay, UA0FM, continues to keep 3W5FM on the air
daily from 1400z on 7005 kHz CW and from 1530z on 7045 kHz SSB.
These skeds are with Sergey, UA0WY, running the list.  QSL direct to
PO Box 66, Vladimir, 600011, Russia.

SVALBARD, JW.  LA5VK, LA7XJA and LA1BJA will sign JW5VK, JW7XJA and
JW1BJA respectively, March 7 to 11 on all bands with CW, SSB and
RTTY.  QSL via LA5VK.

WESTERN SAHARA.  EA3NY plans to operate in the CQWW SSB WPX contest
March 30 and 31 on 80 through 10 meters, probably as S01EA.

SOMALIA, T5.  I4LCK and IK4SDY will be active from Majo Island, IOTA
AF-052, March 27 to April 3 on 160 through 10 meters with 500 watts
to vertical and dipole antennas.

FALKLAND ISLANDS, VP8.  DA4RG, will sign VP8BPZ from mid-May to
mid-September.  He plans to operate SSB only, not nets or lists.
QSL via GW8VHI or DA4RG.

MYANMAR, XZ.  According to Wayne, KF7AY, things still look very
promising for the April XZ1N DXpedition, though some regulatory
matters between the Myanmar military and related ministries need to
be ironed out.  Word from Yangon is encouraging, however.

THIS WEEKEND ON THE RADIO.  Check out the Cadiz Silver Cup Contest
and the Wisconsin QSO Party.  Rules for both events appear on page
97 of March QST.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:15 1996
From: Steve Butler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Call Letters?
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:41:22 -0800
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960306093933.4836C-100000@seatimes>
References: <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Afm Info wrote:

> Is there any place on the internet where I can get a call letter database?
> (for free would be nice!)

ftp.fcc.gov/pub/XFS_AlphaTest/amateur/*.zip

+----------------------------------------------------+
| Steve Butler          Voice:  206-464-2998         |
| The Seattle Times       Fax:  [phone]         |
| PO Box 70          Internet:  [e-mail] |
| Seattle, WA 98111    Packet:  [e-mail]       |
+----------------------------------------------------+
All standard and non-standard disclaimers apply.
All other sources are annonymous.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:15 1996
From: Keith Beebe <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Call Letters?
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:20:24 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.91.960306093933.4836C-100000@seatimes>

Steve Butler wrote:
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Afm Info wrote:
>
> > Is there any place on the internet where I can get a call letter database?
> > (for free would be nice!)
>
>

  Take a look at the following:

http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign.html


73 de Keith KV3J


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peter A. Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: 7 Mar 1996 10:35:08 -0800
Message-ID: <4hna8s$[e-mail]>
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4he7dd$[e-mail]> <4hk0sd$[e-mail]>

In article <4hk0sd$[e-mail]>,
Michael P. Deignan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4he7dd$[e-mail]>,
>       Peter A. Klein <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>How about the fact that time and time again, in large-scale emergency
>>situations, cellular systems are overloaded by the public and/or fail
>>because of the emergency itself?

>Any public safety organization worth its salt is no longer relying on
>cellular for emergency communications and will have many backup plans.

>>Or that the sheriff's repeater often
>>doesn't quite reach into the remote mountain valley where a hiker
>>incoveniently fell off the trail.

>These scenarios are the exception rather than the norm. Should we waste
>Mhz of valuable spectrum worth billions for a handful of examples? No,
>we shouldn't. Sell the spectrum.

OK, I'm sold.  At 2:00 AM tomorrow, you will be visited by a delegation of
National Guard troops, headed by the nearest freshman Republican
congressman and the regional heads of your local Baby Bell and cellular
provider.  Your license and equipment will be confiscated.  You will not
be compensated, because your use of them was based on a discredited
government giveaway.  Furthermore, you will be charged, retroactively and
at current cellular rates, for all your previous use of the former ham
spectrum.  :-)

Seriously though, it sounds like you are advocating the immediate end
of ham radio.  Define "waste."  The international community still
thinks it's a good idea to have amateur radio around for a variety of
reasons.  Public service and emergency communications is only one.  Read
Part 97 for the U.S. interpretations.

73,
Peter - KD7MW
---

--
Peter A. Klein  ([e-mail])  :    -----==3==      ---      ---
Information Services, 5569             :   |    |  |  |    |   |    |   |
Seattle University                     :  @|   @| @| @|   @|  @|   @|  @|


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:18 1996
From: [e-mail](michael silva)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: 4 Mar 1996 05:56:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4he0mv$[e-mail]>
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]>

In <4h7f57$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew
Durigan) writes:
>
>Kind of says it all, doesn't it?

In that case your "all" isn't very much, is it?  Not that anyone is
surprised...

73,
Mike, KK6GM



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:19 1996
From: [e-mail](David Fields )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Commercial Repeaters {Q}
Date: 3 Mar 1996 04:25:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4hb709$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Cona person just go to the Ham Radio Supply Store and buy a
commercially manufactured repeater?  I understant these would probably
be quite expencive, but not all of us are technically minded or
interested in tinkering.  I am mainly interested in 440m and UHF bands
for this "open" repeater.  My immediate area has only 2 repeaters
serving it, and I am interested in sett9ing up a third with autopatch
capabilities.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Dave


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:19 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Definition: CB extra class
Date: 8 Mar 1996 17:35:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hpr57$[e-mail]>

A person who is too lazy to make an effort to learn morse code.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:20 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DX REFLECTOR HELP
Date: 6 Mar 1996 12:30:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4hk0ga$[e-mail]>
References: <4hjuqd$[e-mail]>

>   Joe Fitter  BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>  Hi,
>  I subscribed to the dx reflector, received 2 days of email
>  and now nothing is being delivered.  How do I subscribe
>  again (deleted that old message....)?  Or anyone know a
>  contact in charge of the email DX reflector?
>
>  thanks, Joe
>
>
>  ----------------------------------------------------------
>  Amateur Radio:  BV/N0IAT   Taipei TAIWAN Republic of China
>
>  ex.  7J1AOF (Japan)  YU3/N0IAT (Slovenia)  KA0ZDH (Novice)
>  Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986.  Comments are mine only.
>  ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>>>>
Joe, the DX reflector was down for several days due to a computer glitch

by now you shud be rec'vg postings

73, steve

BTW, I need taiwan lets set up a sked


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wayne Day)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DX Usenet??
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 09:42:12 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Gary Stone <[e-mail]> wrote
:

> Several months back I remember someone going through the process of
> trying to get a usenet for DX only.  Does anyone know what became of
> this?
>
It seems there never was a formal proposal for a DX newsgroup put up to
the community.

73 Wayne KF5ZC

 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Wayne Day KF5ZC Fort Worth,Texas,USA  [e-mail]          |
   CompuServe: 76703,376               [e-mail] |  ,__o
                                       [e-mail]             |--\_<,
   Member: Bicycle Mobile Hams of America                       (*)/'(*)
 For info on BMHA or the BIKEHAM mailing list: Finger [e-mail]
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:22 1996
From: "Dr. Malcolm A. Williamson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Expanding Kenwood TM702E
Date: 9 Mar 1996 12:16:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4hrsq4$[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of any mods available to expand the Kenwood TM702E
receive functions?

Dr. Malcolm A. Williamson (Ph.D)
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Charles R. Sufana)
Subject: FCC rules for cordless phones
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:09:42 GMT

Does anyone know what FCC rule governs cordless phones?  I have been
asked by a lawyer who is on some case that an Indiana law
is being used that lists "Citizen Radio Service Channel" in the wording.
I think this might be something with cordless phones or perhaps Citizen
Band radio (I don't know what FCC ruling that is under either).

Thanks in advance.

73s,

Charlie Sufana AJ9N       Internet  [e-mail] (preferred)
                                    [e-mail] (secondary)


 ComEd - A Div. of Unicom (formerly Commonwealth Edison Co.)
 Work address: ComEd, System Protection Dept. 1039E, 125 S. Clark St.,
               P.O. Box 767, Chicago, Il.  60690
 Work phone: [phone], work fax: [phone]

Who are you going to call?  Fault busters!






From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (B.SMYTH)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FOR SALE
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 01:12:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4hdg1q$[e-mail]>

             ICOM IC281H mobil 2 meter
             Kenwood TH-22AT 2 meter HT
              Both new condition&Hardly used
              E-MAIL for info


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:25 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: GROL exam software?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:29:17 GMT


Is there software for administering sample exams for the GROL available on
the Net, WWW, or otherwise for sale?

Also, what is the current date for the GROL question pool?

Thanks in advance,

Jim - KF6CR
San Bernardino, CA


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HamDaze at the Arizona Science Center
Date: 9 Mar 1996 15:54:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4ht269$[e-mail]>

                             Special Event Information

HamDaze at Arizona Science Center:  The Center for Amateur Radio Learning (C.A
.R.L.)
will be hosting HamDaze Weekend March 23-24,  Several Phoenix area radio clubs
 will
be setting up hands-on demonstrations and exhibits. Amateur Television, an HF
station
and a two way laser communications device will be just some of the attractions
 at the
event. A test session will be available for the No-Code Technician License at
10:00 a.m.
on Saturday March 23. Visitors to ASC will be able to make radio contacts unde
r the
supervision of licensed volunteer operators. The Arizona Science Center is loc
ated at
147 E. Adams. The hours are Saturday 9 - 5:00pm and Sunday 12 - 5:00. Adults $
4.50
Seniors and 4-12 yrs old $3.50, 3yrs and less are free. For details call 561-8
405.


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:26 1996
From: John Harden <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HF Weatherfax Software for Mac?
Date: 8 Mar 1996 12:09:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4hp816$[e-mail]>

Hi there,

Does anyone know where I can find Macintosh versions

of HF SSB Weatherfax software? I require it for

 a friend who is about to embark on a 6 month

Pacific voyage.

Thanks for your help.

John Harden




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:27 1996
From: Bob Duer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Hr2600 MODS
Date: 7 Mar 1996 20:45:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4hnhte$[e-mail]>

Need to know if there are freq. mods for the HR2600 just as there is for
the HR2510.  If there is and they are available a copy or location to get them
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
bob



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:29 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: I love you all
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 11:53:06 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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--
#================#=====================================================#|  Bur
t Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#|
                      [e-mail]                           |
#======================================================================#You ca
nnot build a reputation on what you are going to do.
Henry Ford

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Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Hamrules"

Ham operator Jokes:

1.  What is the thinnest book in the world?
    What hams know about women.

2.  How does a ham take a bubble bath?
    He eats beans for dinner.

3.  What's a ham's idea of foreplay?
    A half hour of contesting.

4.  How can you tell if a ham is sexually excited?
    If he's still breathing.

5.  How many hams does it take to change a roll of toilet paper?
     We don't know...it has never happened.

6.  What's a ham's idea of helping with the housework?
     Lifting his leg so you can vacuum.

7.  What does a ham consider a seven course meal?
     A hot dog and a six pack of beer.

--------------F5666162D70--



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peter C. Markham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: isc...Renters .... Buy a Home with No $$ Downisc
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:40:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4hum5h$[e-mail]>
References: <4hrgld$[e-mail]>

In article <4hrgld$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail](iscMiramar Associates) wrote:
>W>
>NEW HOME - What may be the most fantastic government give-away began
>in March 1994

>        MIRAMAR ROAD ASSOCIATES
>        6920 Miramar Road Ste. 207
>        San Diego, CA  92121.2641

         May all your children be born dead. Pitching your snake oil to this
newsgroup marks you as another predator, of the worst order. If you want to
hunt, hunt your children, and do humanity a favour.

                                       Pete


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: 3 Mar 1996 13:53:54 -0500
Message-ID: <4hcps2$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Bruce Miller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us
>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair
>journalism.  KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525.

Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax...

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hcps2$[e-mail]> <4hj172$[e-mail]> <4hke4p$[e-mail]>

In article <4hke4p$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew Du
rigan) writes:

>I find it fascinating and, quite frankly, funny as hell that this entire
>thread has disintegrated into a totally off-topic discussion about Drew
>and tower pulling, coax pinning, etc.  All of this, even though you
>haven't heard a peep out of me on this thread.

True, but drew has condoned these illegal activities in the past, hence,
when people hear of these juvenile actions...they think of someone who
practices/condones these activities.

>I am quite flattered to know that all of you, especially my old pals Mr.
>Greenhalgh and Mr. Deignan, think about me frequently and continue to
>include me in their posts, even when I'm not around.  Gee, guys, I had no
>idea I was that big of an influence on your lives!  :-)

Reckon it to seeing a very funny and ignorant clown at the circus. If he humor
s
you greatly, you remember him, and reminisce when somebody cites similar
situations...so we can all laugh all over again. Nothing wrong with enjoying
humor.    :)

Doesnt suprise me that drew is flattered tho...

>You're welcome,

Nobody said "thank you".

Take care all.
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: 9 Mar 1996 21:28:45 -0500
Message-ID: <4hteot$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hcps2$[e-mail]> <4hj172$[e-mail]> <4hke4p$[e-mail]>

In article <4hke4p$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I find it fascinating and, quite frankly, funny as hell that this entire
>thread has disintegrated into a totally off-topic discussion about Drew
>and tower pulling, coax pinning, etc.  All of this, even though you
>haven't heard a peep out of me on this thread.
>
>I am quite flattered to know that all of you, especially my old pals Mr.
>Greenhalgh and Mr. Deignan, think about me frequently and continue to
>include me in their posts, even when I'm not around.  Gee, guys, I had no
>idea I was that big of an influence on your lives!  :-)
>
>
>You're welcome,
>
>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
> KF4DDM

Drew,

You have to admit that on occasion you've taken the rather drastic
approach. And every now and then R.R.A.M. needs a mascot and you've been
tagged for this round. Past mascots include Todd Little N9MWB and
in some cases Dana Myers who's been noticably absent as of late.

As for Sunny Central Florida - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Next time
I go down to visit my parents we can go coax pinning. :)

Tony

>
>


--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
== [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham
Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:22:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hke4p$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hcps2$[e-mail]> <4hj172$[e-mail]>

I find it fascinating and, quite frankly, funny as hell that this entire
thread has disintegrated into a totally off-topic discussion about Drew
and tower pulling, coax pinning, etc.  All of this, even though you
haven't heard a peep out of me on this thread.

I am quite flattered to know that all of you, especially my old pals Mr.
Greenhalgh and Mr. Deignan, think about me frequently and continue to
include me in their posts, even when I'm not around.  Gee, guys, I had no
idea I was that big of an influence on your lives!  :-)


You're welcome,

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:37 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Mark Boyer)
Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Mark Boyer)
References: <[e-mail]> <4h5r5o$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 06:08:09 GMT


Glenn Burks ([e-mail]) writes:
> In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (SCN User) writes:
>>
>>
>>Earlier this week, KING TV in Seattle did a story about several
> neighbors in the Magnolia district who have been getting interference to
various items of home electronic equipment ( tv, radio, cordless phone , alarm
> system
>>snip>>
>>The TV people did not arrange to do a fair interview with Erckenbrack;
>
>>instead the crew showed up on his doorstep and did a confrontational
>>interview through the front door.
>>snip>>
>>The story was really slanted in favor of the complainers.  I wonder
>>if perhaps someone in the neighborhood has ties to  KING TV ?
>>
>>
>>Kerwin,  N7JGW
>>--
>>**********************************************************************
> Let KING TV know how you feel about unfair and baised reporting.
>
>                 [e-mail]
>

Never let it be said that the media ever let the facts get in the way of a
good story.

It would be nice for journalists to get out of the gutter and start
reporting/investigating news instead of trying to make it/fabricate it.

One of the defeated Conservative government members (the national party
now has 2 seats out of 215 or so that's how much they were hated in the
last election) was once heard to comment while in power "the media should
stop trying to find news stories and report on what the government gives
them".  Pretty scary.


y .02 cents


--
Mark Boyer VE3MJB   [e-mail]

HELP, HELP we're twapped in a Dash 8 going wound and wound.  A day in the
life at uAmps R us.


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Don Montgomery)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham.
Date: 4 Mar 1996 22:30:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4hfquv$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

SCN User ([e-mail]) wrote:

> The station in question is operated by Extra class Gene Erckenbrack, W7VY.

What goes around, comes around.  W7VY was probably set up by a dis-
gruntled rare DX station that Gene QRMed in a pileup.  Those who
are familiar with this guy's DX operating practices know what I'm
talking about.

...my opinions...
   Don K6LTS
[e-mail]








From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham.
Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:25:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hke9n$[e-mail]>
References: <4hk3ja$[e-mail]>

Hey, this is the 90's.  If you seriously believe that the TV station was
unfair and showed you in an unfavorable light, do what everyone else does.
  Sue, sue, sue!  A sympathetic jury will award you millions in "punitive
damages" since you were obviously wronged by the "big, bad corporation"
(TV station with deep pockets, in other words)

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:39 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Miller)
Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h67ud$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:15:56 GMT

[e-mail]

[e-mail] (Stransmann) writes:

>My thoughts exactly!  Maybe we should have an e-mail letter-writing
>campaign going against KING TV. Perhaps if they were informed of the
>public service work we hams engage in, they would offer us equal time on
>the news (Our Top Story tonight - Magnolia neighbors jump to conclusions).


>Does anyone know KING's on-line address?


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:40 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham.
Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:52:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4i081k$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h5r5o$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Mark Boyer) wr
ites:
>It would be nice for journalists to get out of the gutter and start
>reporting/investigating news instead of trying to make it/fabricate it.

you mean like the two Florida Today reporters who have been found to have
entered a crime scene (murder) and removed materials from the site w/o
permission or supervision?

apparently, they'll get off "because the material they removed was not of
consequence" in the investigation...and then the court indicated that the
police needed to use the returned material to further their case against the
people who beat a man to death a short while ago...

there's a possibility they'll even get their jobs back.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Johnson (KB5VQI))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LATEST HAM WEB SITES
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 17:44:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4hsg1v$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4g1un4$[e-mail]> <4g5isg$[e-mail]>


My page with local DFW, Texas information and weather links at:

http://www.metronet.com/~raki/kb5vqi.html




****************************************************
Raki - Glenn Johnson - KB5VQI - Fort Worth Texas USA
HM - [e-mail] WK - [e-mail]
WWW - http://www.metronet.com/~raki/raki.html



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul van der Eijk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: LOGGING SOFTWARE
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 18:35:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4hnan0$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4g40hq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Paul Moller <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Roland S Geter PhD wrote:
>>
>> There are  really two software packages that I use and find very
>> fantastic.
>>
>> KENTROL is a really great transceiver controlling software package that
>> currently does not have logging but will presently.  Get it at
>> [e-mail].
>>

>Is there a nice windoze based radio controlling program for Yeasu?

>[e-mail]

Check out http://www.erols.com/pvander
Specs, screen shots and DEMO you can download




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:43 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Tom  Zoch)
Subject: Low cost CW on 2M?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 02:53:38 GMT


I just received my tech license and know there is alot of room for CW in
the 2M band but the only new equipment that caries a reasonable price tag
 is for FM.  I would like to know of any reasonably priced CW rigs (new
or used) for this band or 6M.  I would also like to find  kits, plans or
just info. on building my own unit.  I have lots of documentation on
building equipment for HF but there is vary little around for VHF.   Now
It would not be hard to upgrade to tech + and work the HF bands. (I  am
currently studding to take my written elements 3B and 4 in about 2
weeks.) but I would prefer to stay in the VHF  and work my way into EME.
 I have also posted a similar request into the Home brew news group but
since there seem to be a strong contingent of vary pro CW Hams here I
thought this would also be a good place to ask.

73's
TZ
KC7PMQ



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (DeNoid95X)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola MDT as dumb terminal?
Date: 8 Mar 1996 11:37:19 -0500
Message-ID: <4hpnnv$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (DeNoid95X)

I am wondering if the model D1118 B-SP13 can be used as a DUMB TERMINAL
for packet (KPC-3).  It has a DB-25 on the back.  If it can be done what
is the pin config?  Hopefully someone out there has some info!

N9RLR/2


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:45 1996
From: rec@goodguy (Richard Eyre-Eagles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code
Date: 7 Mar 1996 03:01:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4hljid$[e-mail]>
References: <4hgb3b$[e-mail]> <4hisra$[e-mail]>

Bruce Micales ([e-mail]) wrote:
:>In article <4hgb3b$[e-mail]>, rec@goodguy says...

:>>In summary, there would be 3 license classes that all new licensees and
:>>upgrades would go to:
:>>
:>>        - CLASS 3 [elements 2, 3(a) and 3(b)]  Everything above 50 MHz
:>>
:>>        - CLASS 2 [elements 1(a), 2, 3(a) and (b)]  Frequency privleges
:>>                equivlent to General Class.
:>>
:>Would you be willing to "grandfather" the Tech PLUS (received before March
:>21, 1987) to the CLASS 2 license?  These Tech PLUS (prior to 3/21/87) have
:>the code, theory, and regulations elements.

:>Bruce Micales
:>WA2DEU

Bruce, read the FAQ on http://www.goodnet.com/~rec/3tier.com
that item is specifically addressed.  You would be able to claim your new
license class filing a 610.  That way, the FCC can put this monkey to rest.

If you notice, the requirements for a Class-3 is 2,3(a) AND 3(b).
That is one extra element for the entry level license.  Existing Tech(no
code) holders can take the 3(b), they will be given a Class-3 which does
not extend privleges but gives them LIFETIME credit for the 3(b)(General
Written) so when they are ready to tackle the 5WPM code, all they need to
do is take the code.

--
==================================================================
Richard Eyre-Eagles, KJ7MU    | "The opinions expressed are not
Tempe, Arizona                |  those of anyone but myself"
==================================================================
goodnet is good
primenet is bad
Arizona, you have a choice



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:46 1996
From: T E I X E I R A <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code
Date: 7 Mar 1996 03:20:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlkls$[e-mail]>
References: <4hgb3b$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

As far as code I feel it should stay.  When other modes can't get
through cw will.  20 wpm is not that hard to copy. Some countries
require 30 wpm or more.

Also,  cw has been a great screening tool.  Just have to "Pay your
dues" & learn it.

Don N6FNL




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4hgb3b$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hlkls$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:16:03 GMT

In article <4hlkls$[e-mail]> T E I X E I R A <[e-mail]>
writes:
>As far as code I feel it should stay.  When other modes can't get
>through cw will.

I suppose that's why NASA uses banks of headset wearing operators to
copy the weak signals from their deep space probes, eh? CW hasn't been
the method of choice to get through when other techniques fail for a
long time. Better methods have been developed, and those methods have
become available to amateurs as well, witness Clover and PACTOR II
which can maintain communications when you can't even detect the
presence of a signal by ear.

20 wpm is not that hard to copy. Some countries
>require 30 wpm or more.

Which ones?

>Also,  cw has been a great screening tool.  Just have to "Pay your
>dues" & learn it.

Uh huh, I suppose that's why we have such sterling operators on
HF now, huh? Recall that NALs are issued disproportionately to
those holding licenses requiring a Morse speed test. Correlation?
Certainly. Causation, not so clear. And show us where the purpose
of licensing has anything to do with "paying dues". Og the caveman
could beat out rhythms on a log, but does that satisfy a government
concern that he could operate a radio transmitter without causing
harm to himself or others? I think not.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:48 1996
From: rec@goodguy (Richard Eyre-Eagles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code
Date: 8 Mar 1996 01:48:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4ho3lb$[e-mail]>
References: <4hgb3b$[e-mail]> <4hncdm$[e-mail]>

:>A rational idea!   I have been a ham for 36 years, and would even be
:>willing to forego the CW test for a license, but am staunchly opposed
:>to relenquishing CW segments of the bands.   Some of us old timers are
:>in a CW "rut", and enjoy it too much to give it up.  But
:>realistically,  as a V.E., I see a greater need for practical tests in
:>areas other than CW.

I am only removing 25kHz from CW.  I know that 25kHz can go a long way
but there is still another 125kHz for CW.  It would be nice to have phone
QSOs Regions 1 and 3 on 40.

Keep in mind this would be temporary until one of the upcoming WARCs
where an agreement would be made on what to do with 7MHz
(eg: 6900-7200 Worldwide Amateur Assignment, 7200-7500 Broadcasting).

Morse will never die.

--
==================================================================
Richard Eyre-Eagles, KJ7MU    | "The opinions expressed are not
Tempe, Arizona                |  those of anyone but myself"
==================================================================
goodnet is good
primenet is bad
Arizona, you have a choice



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:49 1996
From: Mike - KB9LPJ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need manual for Kenwood TS-50
Date: 4 Mar 1996 23:13:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hftef$[e-mail]>


TNX for reading this.

  I would like to know if anyone has a manual for
a Kenwood TS-520 that they would be willing to
part with.
  Or if they could steer me in the right
direction so I could get myself one.


Many TNX


73's >> Mike - KB9LPJ


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:50 1996
From: Parker Kent <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Need Radio Clock Info.
Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:00:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hl1tj$90r$[e-mail]>

I need any information I can get in
reguards to the radio signals sent from Germany
across Europe giving time information for
Radio Clocks.

Thanks,

Parker Kent


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Bernazzani)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:20:36 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello all,

I just passed the exams and the 5WPM code test to earn my Tech Plus
license (which should arrive this week - I check daily online!).
After passing, I ordered a basic 2M 50W mobile for installation in my
car.  The price was good and the choices were simple... but I also
want to get a "base" station for my room.  Here are my questions.

(1) How effective are the handhelds if connected to a well-mounted
roof antenna (I'm considering the simple Cushcraft AR-270 mounted on
my chimney)?  Would it be possible to hit repeaters more than a few
miles away?

(2) When they say a handheld is 2.5W with 5W out for 9.X volts does
that mean if I use a wall adapter I will get the full 5W out?  Do the
adapters typically come standard with HTs?

(3) Anyone using a power amplifier for their HTs?  How effective and
do the cheaper (less than $100) ones work well?  I don't want to buy
an amp if it's not really needed.  I just want enough power to get to
the more popular receivers which my current scanner is able to receive
very well.

(4) If I decide to get a small mobile for base use, does anyone know
any good places to get descent but inexpensive power supplies?  I
assume I would want at least 12-16A Continuous to be sure I have the
power needed...?

(5) How well do the HTs work when connected to a simple (MFJ) mag
mount antenna on the roof of a car? How effective are they compared to
mobile mounts with the same antenna (obviously the power is different,
how much difference is typical in real use).  Owning the HT would be
an added benefit of being able to use an HT in a car other than my own
(which will have a permanent 2M mobile).

(6) Any suggestions on simple 2M HTs ... I'm mostly considering Yaesu.

Thanks much in advance and take care,

73
Dave Bernazzani

(no Callsign yet .... Let's get going FCC!)


-----------------------------------------
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (destiny admin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: New Radio Program
Date: 7 Mar 1996 00:38:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlb5c$[e-mail]>

Destiny Software is a developer of video games like JAM! (shareware),
Darkseed II and Blood Bowl.  You can check out our WEB site at:

http://www.destiny-software.com/destiny

Now we're experimenting with RADIO!

We have just successfully broadcast good quality music and speech over
the internet (receiving with a 28 800 modem).  (Our compression
algorithm is much faster and better quality than others we've tried.)
We plan to allow non-commercial users to broadcast for free,
encouraging a wide variety of viewpoints in this new medium.
Commercial users are welcome to participate in BETA testing.

The compression is in real time on a 486, so we will support live
broadcasts as soon as we finish the initial testing.

So here's the scoop - we're looking for BETA testers.  If you would
like to become a broadcaster, you need:

1. A permanent IP address.
2. A dedicated machine (or permission to run background tasks)
3. You are either linked to the MBONE or you have a fast connection
4. If you are using a non-windows server, we may need access to your
account to compile for your particular machine.

Basically, you fill your hard drive with samples and a script file to
organize playback.  (The player will repeat the script when it
finishes).  Later we will upgrade so that broadcasters can go live by
plugging a signal into a PC sound card.

Listeners will enter your address into the radio program and voila,
your broadcast will begin playing.  The radio feature will be built
into our soon to be released freeware browser.

If you're interested, send email.

Thanks!








From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel P Cristina)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Packet Bulletin Availability
Date: 9 Mar 1996 23:32:46 -0600
Message-ID: <4htphu$[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of a site where Amateur Bulletins can be retrieved via
zip file on a daily or every second day basis?
We have some bulletins arriving here in N.O. but some are dated 3-5 days
behind, and with STS flights with routine orbital burns, this info is
sometimes received after the shuttle has landed.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Danny/N5OMG



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:54 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Curt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Porcelain Insulators
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 03:49:29 GMT

If you have an antenna project in mind for spring, i have some hard to
find Birnbach Porcelain insulators for sale. They are about 8" long &
about 1 1/2" around. These are great for SWL, Ham Hi-Power or any wire
antenna. The price is $4.00ea plus shipping. To reach me:
[e-mail] or phone [phone] before 10pm EST
or you can mail a check with approx $5.00 for shipping to
Curt Haroutunian N9INK
7835 E Southport Rd.
Indianapolis, IN. 46259
An E-Mail message to let me know your check is on the way will hold them
for you as quantity is limited to 80 at the time of this post.


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympic
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 21:58:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics

H>The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
 >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
 >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
 >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
 >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).

H>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
 >it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
 >period.

Why, what are they worried about?
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Otterson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 01:51:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlfka$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]> <znr826037811k@Digex>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

>In article <4heuc1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>> The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
>> around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
>> and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
>> ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
>> band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).
>>
>> I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
>> it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
>> period.

Hmmm.
1. ACOG has been soliciting Amateur assistance, the ARRL is involved
in organizing communications support by amateurs.
2. *Federal* authority granted your radio license.
3. It's a cell-phone.  Bell South has gone to great lengths to make
the 96 games cell-phone friendly.  Yes, of course it's a cell phone.

sounds like BS to me.  ACOG is so screwed up.  The other day, on front
page of the Atlanta Constitution, was an article that described how a
person in New Mexico was told by the telephone ticket seller that he
would have to buy tickets in his own country, since New Mexico was not
in the United States.  The ticket seller's supervisor was kind enough
to confirm this fact to the frustrated caller, who eventually got his
tickets by using an Arizona address.  gaack.


Jeff Otterson
-------------
[e-mail]
Maker and user of tools
PGP key available at http://www.mindspring.com/~otterson/pgp.htm



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:16:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 05:42:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4hs6i1$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]> <znr826037811k@Digex>

[e-mail] (Francis A. Ney, Jr.) wrote:


>In article <4heuc1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>> The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
>> around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
>> and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
>> ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
>> band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).
>>
>> I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
>> it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
>> period.

>Well, that settles it:  the olympics will be a MUST MISS for me...

>What a bunch of assholes.

Yeah, what a bunch of JERKS!!  I mean, like, nobobdy would EVER try to
do something organized and violent at the OLYMPICS, right???!!  After
Munich and the hundreds of other hideous terrorist atrocities
committed by extremists all over the world to gain attention to their
piddly causes, I guess you think your right to carry your HT swinging
like a big electronic pocket-protector from your belt should be high
on the priority list of the people trying to prevent carnage at the
games???  Get real.

MUST MISS??  Go ahead, nobody will notice.

73 -- Bob

"I never understood Pat Buchanan's speeches until I was able to hear
them in the original German"  -Robin Williams



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:00 1996
From: Gene Shablygin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 96 02:44:57 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]>  <4hlt0h$[e-mail]>


:> >The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
:> >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
:> >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
:> >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
:> >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).
:>
:> >I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
:> >it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
:> >period.
;> >--
:> >Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD
:>
:> Four years ago I and several other active Atlanta area hams contacted
:> the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games about the possibility of
:> setting up amateur radio al la recent olympic games where special
:> stations were set up to contact stations around the world.  I have
:> beautiful cards from Seoul for example.  The person I spoke with was
:> not friendly at all, but asked to see one of the cards.  I sent along
:> one (never did get it back) that fully explained the station and its
:> reason to be.  The next week I got a terse letter back saying that
:> ACOG wanted no part of "amateur" activity.
:>
:> At about the same time, Seattle hosted the WRTC with hams from all
:> over the world competing against each other.  I took the idea and
:> placed this in front of several members of ACOG and they told me its
:> too much trouble, forget it.
>
> Within the last two years ACOG realized that they need help so they
> finally reached out to both hams and REACT for volunteer support.  I
> understand they are still looking for more volunteers.  But by then
> the taste was so bad that I wanted no part of it.  I can't speak for
> HT's or cellular phones, but from what I hear there will be many out
> there as long as they are held by registered volunteers.  Beware that
> to volunteer you need to be available for the entire 2 plus weeks and
> be able to work anytime.
>
> I hear that possibily Georgia Tech (W4AQL) or Sci-Trek Museum (STARS)
> may have some radio activity as official olympic stations.  Lets hope
> so as I personally don't want to let Atlanta go down as the first
> olympic games since WW II not to have some type of (all band) olympic
> amateur activity.
>
> Dave Thompson, K4JRB
>
>

16 years ago, when we all Russian hams lived in the Box 88, and the
ONLY ideology allowed was communism... we could set up a great ham
activity during Moscow olympics (I was personally involved in RM3O
operations)... those who worked in 1980, can remember the rainbow of
RM, RL, RX, RX, RT, RY prefixes... What's going on in free America?

Gene AB5GY / RA3AA



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:00 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 10 Mar 1996 02:57:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4htge7$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]> <znr826037811k@Digex> <4hlfka$[e-mail]> <4hqq5o$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <4hqq5o$[e-mail]>, Don Schreiner <[e-mail]> writes:
>Hmmm
>
>What am I missing?
>
>If Atlanta is asking for Amateur Radio help for the Olympics, but simultaneou
sly
>disallowing radio's, this could put a crimp in communications.  Sounds like M
urphy
>is alive and well!
>
>73's
>
>WR4E
>
>
I think that hams should not help them until they lift that silly rule. If the
y
want our help then they should let us bring our radios and such into the
stadium.

73 de KC7GNM
Greg



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:02 1996
From: AC6V <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: REPEATER GUIDES ON WWW
Date: 9 Mar 1996 20:01:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4hso2n$[e-mail]>
References: <4g2gg4$[e-mail]> <4hsg6m$[e-mail]>


A composite message from AC6V and KB5VQI: Re Repeater Guides

From AC6V:
Saw several requests for an on-line repeater guide.
>
>>Try ARTSCI at:
>
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~artsci/repmain.html

Also for a very comprehensive San Diego Repeater Guide, go to our PARC
Page:

http://www.electriciti.com/parc

Then got to Red Repeater Button for PARC Repeaters and then to bottom of
page for "All San Diego Repeater Guide". Print em out and visit San Diego
and PARC on your next So Calif Trip. Lots of sun and fun and repeaters!

>From Glenn Johnson
>I have put together a comprehensive DFW, Texas area repeater list for
>50, 144, 440, and above with a general frequency guide at:
>
>http://www.metronet.com/~raki/kb5vqi
>

>
>****************************************************
>Raki - Glenn Johnson - KB5VQI - Fort Worth Texas USA
>HM - [e-mail] WK - [e-mail]
>WWW - http://www.metronet.com/~raki/raki.html

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What King Of Old Could Do Thus ?  --- AC6V
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A Man May Know Of The World Without Leaving The Shelter Of His
Own Home!
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Delaney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Rigs in Atlanta before the Olmypics?
Date: 10 Mar 1996 18:44:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4hv7u4$[e-mail]>

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I heard on Newsline that we shouldn't plan on bringing our rigs to the
Olmypics in Atlanta because we won't be allowed in. What about this
spring, before the games, are they doing anything?

 --
Matthew Delaney  N2MDB    [e-mail]   ax.25: n2mdb@k2sk.#eny.ny.usa.na
Finger for PGP key   http://www.j51.com/~delaney/  http://www.chsn.org/chsn
  "To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the
    human spirit" -- Stephen Hawking

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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:04 1996
From: "G.Ioannu" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Shematic for a Cleartone VHF 500/A tranceiver Wanted...
Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:26:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4hn2nk$[e-mail]>

I would appriciate if anybody could send me the schematic for a VHF
tranceiver made by CLEARTONE. The model is VHF 500/AM.
It was used for Radio Taxis, and I want to convert it for the 2 meter
band.
I contacted Cleartone in UK ( I think it is a UK company ), but they
haven't got any documentation any more.
I'll have to build FM modulation, FM demodulator and PLL, almost
impossible with out the schematic.
I'll be glad to cover any expenses.

Thank you all in advance.

George Ioannu
SV8ARJ





From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (John W Langner)
Subject: Re: SLOW SCAN TV - info needed
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hhrak$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:48:32 GMT

In article <4hhrak$[e-mail]>,
Steven Priest  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I am currently doing a project on SSTV, and would be very grateful if
>anyone has any information they could send me.
>
>Here are a list of subject areas which would be usful:
>
>History
>Present Uses
>Hardware Recievers
>Circuit Designs, ideas etc
>
>Cheers
>Steven Priest
>


Plenty of SSTV information can be found at

    http://www.ultranet.com/~sstv

e-mail me your postal address for some hardcopy
information if you don't have WWW access.

John



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave van De Kerk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: subscribe
Date: 4 Mar 96 20:33:49 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

subscribe


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TAI-CHI MASTER - 3/13 - PC THEATER
Date: 6 Mar 96 15:19:24 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (john p. sumner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TAI-CHI MASTER - 3/13 - PC THEATER
Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:04:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4hkd1m$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

 Hey this does not belong on here you dummy.







John P. Sumner
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Thomas Randall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 21:42:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4hnl9j$[e-mail]>
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]>

In article <4hihf3$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Clint Lancaster) wrote:
>What is a Technician Plus?
>
>Seems I are one !
>
>CML
>WD4KZJ
>

  Congratulations! I just passed my 5 wpm 2 weeks ago! You get 10,40 & 80
meters now. Voice on 28.300-28.500 and cw between 28.100 and 28.300
On 40 you get CW from 7.100 to 7.150
On 80 you get CW from 3.675 to 3.725
NO voice on 40 or 80.

Next stop, the GENERAL!

73,

Tom - KB2SMS


   Tom Randall            Amateur Radio - KB2SMS
   [e-mail]       Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL
                          Member: AAVSO Solar Division

   Opinions herein are mine and they are not that of MHV.NET!


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:10 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:06:47 GMT
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]> <4hnl9j$[e-mail]>

In <4hnl9j$[e-mail]>,
   Thomas Randall <[e-mail] (Thomas Randall)> wrote:
|In article <4hihf3$[e-mail]>,
|   [e-mail] (Clint Lancaster) wrote:
|>What is a Technician Plus?
|>
|>Seems I are one !
|>CML
|>WD4KZJ
|  Congratulations! I just passed my 5 wpm 2 weeks ago! You get 10,40 & 80
|meters now. Voice on 28.300-28.500 and cw between 28.100 and 28.300
|On 40 you get CW from 7.100 to 7.150
|On 80 you get CW from 3.675 to 3.725
|NO voice on 40 or 80.
|
|Next stop, the GENERAL!

Congratulations!  I think, however, Clint has just gotten a renewed or
restored license, judging by his WD4 callsign, and found it had written on
it "Technician Plus" where it used to say "Technician".  Anyone who was a
technician before 1991 when the no-code license was introduced automatically
became a Plus in fact if not in name.  The FCC has just been making it
official.  The Plus means you have novice-equivalent privileges on 80
through 10 meters in addition to all Technician privileges above 30 MHz
because at one time you passed a five wpm code test.

        73 / JBL

--
Nets: [e-mail]  | "How does a mouse let me move the cursor anywhere
  or [e-mail]|  I want?"  "What are address busses?"  "How do
pots: [phone]  |  icons work?"              --Time-Life Books
ARS:  KD1ON          |


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:11 1996
From: Steve Sampson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 06:01:34 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]>
To: Clint Lancaster <[e-mail]>

Clint Lancaster wrote:
>
> What is a Technician Plus?
>
> Seems I are one !
>
> CML
> WD4KZJ

Geez...

You must not be very active...

A Technician is a beginner Ham.  Plus means you know (knew) Morse Code
at a maximum speed of 5 words per minute.  Technician Plus Hams can send
CW in the Novice HF bands, and do SSB on the 10 meter band (No AM or FM though
).

Steve
Tech+ until all the old farts die off on HF.


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:12 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Date: 10 Mar 1996 06:48:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4htu0b$[e-mail]>
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy>

In article <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy>,
   Ken Harrison <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Path:
news.cis.okstate.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!prav
da.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!n
ewshub.csu.net!usenet
>From: Ken Harrison <[e-mail]>
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Subject: Re: Technician Plus
>Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 00:41:19 -0800 (PST)
>Organization: Information Resources and Technology
>Lines: 28
>Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy>
>References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]>
<[e-mail]>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: zippy.sonoma.edu
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>X-Sender: ken@zippy
>In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
>Status: N
>
>On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Steve Sampson wrote:
>
>> You must not be very active...
>>
>> A Technician is a beginner Ham.  Plus means you know (knew) Morse Code
>> at a maximum speed of 5 words per minute.  Technician Plus Hams can send
>> CW in the Novice HF bands, and do SSB on the 10 meter band (No AM or FM
>> though).
>>
>> Steve
>
>Hi Steve...  Actually, to be a little bit more accurate regarding the
>"maximum" speed...  Would it be more correct to say a maximum speed of
>"up to but not including 13 wpm?"  Maybe better would be "at least 5 wpm
>but not 13 wpm."
>
>The 5 wpm maximum just didn't quite set well with me.  Had to be said. :-)
>
>73,
>Ken
>


   Oh picky picky!!!!


Mike


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:13 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:55:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4i0879$[e-mail]>
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <4hihf3$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Clint Lanca
ster) writes:
>What is a Technician Plus?
>Seems I are one !
>CML
>WD4KZJ

a tech plus is anyone who has credit for elements 2 and 3A of the written exam
s
(some have element 3B from the days of the single element 3 test..pre-3/21/87)
plus credit for passing any code speed test (even if it was 13 or 20..and it'd
 expired
you'd still get credit for 1A...and would carry on..)

tech plus get tech VHF privileges plus Novice HF privileges.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:15 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:58:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4i08ds$[e-mail]>
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy>, Ken Harrison <[e-mail]
ma.edu> writes:
>On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Steve Sampson wrote:
>> A Technician is a beginner Ham.  Plus means you know (knew) Morse Code
>> at a maximum speed of 5 words per minute.  Technician Plus Hams can send
>> CW in the Novice HF bands, and do SSB on the 10 meter band (No AM or FM
>> though).
>> Steve
>Hi Steve...  Actually, to be a little bit more accurate regarding the
>"maximum" speed...  Would it be more correct to say a maximum speed of
>"up to but not including 13 wpm?"  Maybe better would be "at least 5 wpm
>but not 13 wpm."
>The 5 wpm maximum just didn't quite set well with me.  Had to be said. :-)
>73,
>Ken

better than that - the tech plus could have passed 13 or 20 but not the writte
ns
and for whatever reason, didn't get back to cash in the test credits before th
ey
expired...this would leave someone who was, say a shipboard op or a intercept
operator with a tech plus when he could do 35 while asleep...

if you pass 20 and element 2, you get a novice license.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:15 1996
From: Anon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Test
Date: 3 Mar 1996 00:17:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4haoe5$[e-mail]>


Test




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:16 1996
From: Charlie King <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: UM9401 PIN DIODE
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 08:00:56 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know the make of the um9401 diode and can supply it's specs.

73's
Charlie VK6ZCK


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:17 1996
From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: USA QSL BUREAU
Date: 10 Mar 1996 12:36:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4huibi$[e-mail]>
Keywords: US BURO USA BURO USBURO USABURO


* * * * * * * A T T E N T I O N   A L L   H A M S * * * * * * *

NOW SEND "QSL VIA USBURO" ON THE AIR!
USA QSL BUREAU FOR ALL YOUR DOMESTIC QSL CARDS, ALL 10
DISTRICTS, TERRITORIES AND TRUSTEESHIPS OF THE U.S.A.

SAVE $$$ ON POSTAGE-SAVE $$$ ON CALLBOOKS-SAVE $$$ ON CD-ROMS
FAST..PROMPT..PROFESSIONAL..SERVICE..FOR HAMS BY HAMS

RATES FOR YOUR OUTGOING CARDS;
2 - 10 CARDS $.10 EA. - 10 FOR $1.00 - 50 FOR $4.50
100 FOR $8.00 - OVER 100, $7.00 PER HUNDRED CARDS
PLEASE PUT CALLSIGN OF STATION YOU ARE SENDING CARD TO IN THE
ADDRESS SECTION (BACK OF CARD) IN 3/4 TO 1 INCH LETTERS!

NO CHARGE FOR CARDS SENT TO YOU BY THE BUREAU - BUT YOU MUST
HAVE AT LEAST ONE SASE ON FILE - ALL HAMS ENCOURAGED TO KEEP
AT LEAST ONE #6 SASE ON FILE AT THE BUREAU!!

SPECIAL SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR; CONTESTERS, CLUBS & SPECIAL
EVENT STATIONS, QSL MANAGER SERVICES ALSO AVAILABLE,
CONTACT US FOR MORE INFRMATION.

START ENJOYING THE SAVINGS AND BENEFITS TODAY!!
SEND US UP TO -4- #6(3-5/8 X 6-1/2) SASE's (W/1-STAMP-EA)
PLEASE PUT YOUR CALLSIGN IN TOP LEFT CORNER!!!  OR
YOU MAY SEND $5.00, YOUR CORRECT RETURN ADDRESS & WE SUPPLY
10 ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPES FOR YOU.

SEND YOUR CHECK/OUTGOING CARDS ALONG WITH YOUR SASE'S TO;
USA QSL BUREAU Dept-N
P.O. BOX 814
BREWER, ME 04412-0814

DON'T DELAY! DO IT TODAY! ENJOY SAVINGS & BENEFITS TOMORROW!

THE QSL CARD - THE FINAL COURTEOUSITY OF A QSO!!!
NOW, THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO QSL!!!
OPERATED BY AA1MF & CREW
E-MAIL [e-mail]
-EOF-


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:19 1996
From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: USA QSL BURO
Date: 10 Mar 1996 20:49:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4hvf82$[e-mail]>
Keywords: us buro usa buro us bureau usa bureau


* * * * * * * A T T E N T I O N   A L L   H A M S * * * * * * *

NOW SEND "QSL VIA USBURO" ON THE AIR!
USA QSL BUREAU FOR ALL YOUR DOMESTIC QSL CARDS, ALL 10
DISTRICTS, TERRITORIES AND TRUSTEESHIPS OF THE U.S.A.

SAVE $$$ ON POSTAGE-SAVE $$$ ON CALLBOOKS-SAVE $$$ ON CD-ROMS
FAST..PROMPT..PROFESSIONAL..SERVICE..FOR HAMS BY HAMS

RATES FOR YOUR OUTGOING CARDS;
2 - 10 CARDS $.10 EA. - 10 FOR $1.00 - 50 FOR $4.50
100 FOR $8.00 - OVER 100, $7.00 PER HUNDRED CARDS
PLEASE PUT CALLSIGN OF STATION YOU ARE SENDING CARD TO IN THE
ADDRESS SECTION (BACK OF CARD) IN 3/4 TO 1 INCH LETTERS!

NO CHARGE FOR CARDS SENT TO YOU BY THE BUREAU - BUT YOU MUST
HAVE AT LEAST ONE SASE ON FILE - ALL HAMS ENCOURAGED TO KEEP
AT LEAST ONE #6 SASE ON FILE AT THE BUREAU!!

SPECIAL SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR; CONTESTERS, CLUBS & SPECIAL
EVENT STATIONS, QSL MANAGER SERVICES ALSO AVAILABLE,
CONTACT US FOR MORE INFRMATION.

START ENJOYING THE SAVINGS AND BENEFITS TODAY!!
SEND US UP TO -4- #6(3-5/8 X 6-1/2) SASE's (W/1-STAMP-EA)
PLEASE PUT YOUR CALLSIGN IN TOP LEFT CORNER!!!  OR
YOU MAY SEND $5.00, YOUR CORRECT RETURN ADDRESS & WE SUPPLY
10 ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPES FOR YOU.

SEND YOUR CHECK/OUTGOING CARDS ALONG WITH YOUR SASE'S TO;
USA QSL BUREAU Dept-N
P.O. BOX 814
BREWER, ME 04412-0814

DON'T DELAY! DO IT TODAY! ENJOY SAVINGS & BENEFITS TOMORROW!

THE QSL CARD - THE FINAL COURTEOUSITY OF A QSO!!!
NOW, THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO QSL!!!
OPERATED BY AA1MF & CREW
E-MAIL [e-mail]
-EOF-


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave O'Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 22:58:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4hl52v$[e-mail]>
References: <Pine.SV4.3.91.960304175728.3487B-100000@mirage>

Edwin Clark <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Is there any other federal laws that affect the use of amateur equipment
>aboard airlines other that 97.11?

>seems to me I read something a few months back about a complete
>restriction on use because of possible safety of the airplane.

>any help will be appreciated....ed KB0MKH

     I'm sure you KNOW that there is a real possibility of interfering
with the electronics on the aircraft.  I know it is "neet" to talk 200
miles on your H.T., but is it worth ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF
EVERYONE ON-BOARD?  A hint...   the correct answer is NO.
Put your "toys" in your luggage and play with them when you get there.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:21 1996
From: Victor Morange <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 22:18:10 +0000
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <Pine.SV4.3.91.960304175728.3487B-100000@mirage>
To: Edwin Clark <[e-mail]>

Edwin Clark wrote:
>
> Is there any other federal laws that affect the use of amateur equipment
> aboard airlines other that 97.11?
>
> seems to me I read something a few months back about a complete
> restriction on use because of possible safety of the airplane.
>
> any help will be appreciated....ed KB0MKH

The FAA states that Pagers, Cellular Phones, Radios including scanners and
Ham, C.B., general etc. are not allowed to be operated or in use on board an
aircraft without the approval of the captain of the aircraft. This is because
that use of this can interfere with the communication, navigational and
instrumental devices in the cockpit.

Basically...just don't touch the radio on the plane. Also it maybe wise to
take of the battery and antenna to get through security.

Victor Morange
KO6ZK
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas McLarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Date: 6 Mar 1996 15:20:52 -0800
Message-ID: <4hl6kk$[e-mail]>
References: <Pine.SV4.3.91.960304175728.3487B-100000@mirage> <4hl52v$[e-mail]>

Dave O'Neal ([e-mail]) wrote:

:      I'm sure you KNOW that there is a real possibility of interfering
: with the electronics on the aircraft.  I know it is "neet" to talk 200
: miles on your H.T., but is it worth ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF
: EVERYONE ON-BOARD?  A hint...   the correct answer is NO.
: Put your "toys" in your luggage and play with them when you get there.

I feel I should make a little clarification on this...

Some airlines (I know Delta is one) will permit the use of devices wich
*receive* RF transmissions while in the cruise stage of the flight.  They
are not permitted, however, during: taxi, takeoff, ascent, descent,
landing, and taxi.  I do stress _RECEIVE_, though, because the airlines
feel that IF interference is marginal and do not affect the onoard
navigation systems enough.  However, the second your transmit with a
radio inside a plane, at best you would only temporarily disorient the
instruments.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Texas 882nd AFJROTC Group: San Antonio, TX

Amateur Radio Operator - KC5IUZ
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:23 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Date: 11 Mar 1996 04:04:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4i08oi$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hniu4$pfl$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus) writes:
>Look around the next airport you're in and count the number of mobile
>transmitters.

even easier, look at the number of antennas on the plane...(some are hidden).
3 VHF comms, 2 VHF navs, 2 adfs, 2 dmes, 2 transponders, maybe a couple of
HF radios if needed, satcom is the new thing for 2-ways plus GPS (more that ju
st 1
for redundancy..)...and i'm probably forgetting things like the flite-fones, t
he data
radios, radar (weather and wind shear), etc.

and it can be a challenge to get that stuff to all cooperate even on a big pla
ne

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (LOUIS IOCONA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Vintage QST magazine 4 sale
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 06:23:00 -0400
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (LOUIS IOCONA)

Hello, and thanks for reading this, I thought this may be the best
place to post this request since I did not see a specific area.
I have for sale about eight QST magazines from December 1949 up
to July 1950. They are still in their oringinal shipping wrap and
are in very mint condition. I bought them at an auction and now have
decided they could be better used for someone who has a interest in
them. I would like to sell them complete but will sell a specific issue
if requested. Please E-mail if interested.

                              Lou  N2PKT
                              [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry Flanders)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vintage QST magazine 4 sale
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 02:29:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4ho62a$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (LOUIS IOCONA) wrote:

>...I have for sale about eight QST magazines from December 1949 up
>to July 1950. ...
>                              Lou  N2PKT
==============================================================
Lou, how about checking some old prices for us before the magazines
are gone. I think I remember seeing ads in QST of that vintage (I read
them "live", at that time) that life membership in ARRL was $20 and a
years subscription was, I think, about $2.75.

Jerry W4UKU   [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (L@rry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WALA
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 05:52:02 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

How do I get a hold of a WALA map?

Pls mail me at [e-mail]

Thanks

Larry


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:28 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Richard Crisp)
Subject: Re: When does the Foothill College Swap in Los Altos, CA, start?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gd2lf$[e-mail]> <4h5ulh$[e-mail]> <4h63tj$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:19:48 GMT

what is the talk-in freq?

--
Richard Crisp                 Cupertino, Ca.                [e-mail]
[phone] wk                                         [phone] fax
"When I make a joke, no one gets hurt; when Congress makes a joke, it becomes
law"                           -Will Rogers
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: When does the Foothill College Swap in Los Altos, CA, start?
Date: 9 Mar 1996 22:01:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4hsv4k$[e-mail]>
References: <4gd2lf$[e-mail]> <4h5ulh$[e-mail]> <4h63tj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>what is the talk-in freq?
>
>--
>Richard Crisp                 Cupertino, Ca.                [e-mail]
>[phone] wk                                         [phone] fax
>"When I make a joke, no one gets hurt; when Congress makes a joke, it becomes
>law"                           -Will Rogers

Talk-in freq is 145.27 (-) SPECS repeater. I believe PL tone 100 is
recommended. I *used* to be a specs member but now live 800 miles north of
that swap meet.

73, Ed, KF7VY
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Minger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: where/when 1st Ham repeater?
Date: 7 Mar 1996 18:40:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4hnain$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
jenglish  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Our local YL net entertains itself with a weekly amateur radio
>"trivia" question. This week it is "where, when and near what famous
>landmark was the first amateur radio repeater used?"
>
Seems to me I heard something on Newline recently about a pioneer
in the field who had just become a silent key.  Wasn't he from
California.  Maybe it was a repeater on Mt Hollywood (near the sign).

73, John KE6DTC
--
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John Minger <[e-mail]>  Interests: Genealogy, Amateur Radio
 KE6DTC@K6VE.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM, TCP/IP: 44.16.1.240 - ke6dtc.ampr.org
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:31 1996
From: Chuck Penson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB: QST on microfiche
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 11:13:07 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anybody have a set of QSTs on microfiche? Doesn't need to be complete.
Am really looking for 1950 to 1980 or thereabouts.

Thanks

--
Chuck Penson
Education Division
Science Museum of Minnesota

[e-mail]
612.221.4510 voice
612.224.5092 fax
http://comped.sci.mus.mn.us

Standard Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are etc. etc. ...

"Nothing is too wonderful to be true" -- Michael Faraday


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:32 1996
From: Chuck Penson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB: QST on microfiche
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 11:12:44 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Anybody have a set of QSTs on microfiche? Doesn't need to be complete.
Am really looking for 1950 to 1980 or thereabouts.

Thanks

--
Chuck Penson
Education Division
Science Museum of Minnesota

[e-mail]
612.221.4510 voice
612.224.5092 fax
http://comped.sci.mus.mn.us

Standard Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are etc. etc. ...

"Nothing is too wonderful to be true" -- Michael Faraday


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Biekert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WWW Page
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:15:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4hvgov$[e-mail]>

In the Clear Lake City area (S.E. Houston TX) the Clear Lake ARC
is an ARRL Special Services Club.
Check out our web site
 http://www.phoenix.net/~biekert/index.html

73 Bob KA5GLX

Bob Biekert   --   Houston Texas
[e-mail]
[e-mail], [e-mail]
http://clarc.phoenix.net/~ka5glx


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 07:17:33 1996
From: Geoff Brown <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc,
Subject: WWW pages
Date: 10 Mar 1996 21:04:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4hvg4e$[e-mail]>

Readers may be interested in the new additions at:
http://user.itl.net/~equinox

These pages now contain a near real, MUF, E Layer and F2
links, plus lots more new additions.
Geoff



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:03 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: (Ham stressors
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 06:38:09 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

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Here is the list of stressors, along with their relative weights, from Drs.
Thomas H. Holmes and Richard H. Rahe, psychiatrists at the University of
Washington Medical School.  K1OIK made certain additions:

Event                                   Relative Rating
Talk to an attractive female direct     200
Talk to a female on the air             103
Forced to sell rig                      102
Theft of rig                            101
Death of spouse                         100
Ham takes a bath or shower              100
Antenna falls                           100
Try to fix own rig                      99
Spouse walks into ham shack             99
Divorce                                 73
Receiving a packet message              69
Marital separation                      65
Jail term                               63
Death of close family member            63
Sending a packet message                54
Personal injury or illness              53
Listening to a repeater                 52
Marriage                                50
Fired at work                           47
Marital reconciliation                  45
Retirement                              45
Change in health of family member       44
Pregnancy                               40
Sex difficulties (all hams have this)   39
Gain of new family member               39
Eyeball "QSO"                           34
Change in financial state               38
Death of close friend                   37
Death of a ham friend                   01 (all hams are dead anyway)
Change to different line of work        36
Change in number of arguments w/ spouse 35
Change in number of QSOs                33
Mortgage over $10,000 (!)               31
Foreclosure of mortgage or loan         30
Change in responsibilities at work      29
Son or daughter leaving home            29
Trouble with in-laws                    29
Outstanding personal achievement        28
Outstanding ham achievement             67
Wife (spouse) begins or stops work      26
Begin or end school                     26
Change in living conditions             25
Revision of personal habits             24
Trouble with boss                       23
Trouble with rig                        87
Change in work hours or conditions      20
Change in residence                     20
Change in schools                       20
Change in recreation                    19
Change in call sign                     99
Change in church activities             19
Change in social activities             18
Mortgage or loan less than $10,000      17
Change in sleeping habits               16
Change in # of family get-togethers     15
Change in code speed                    15
Change in eating habits                 15
Vacation                                13
Christmas                               12
Minor violations of the law             11
Receiving a QSL card                    09
Ham's child dies                        07


Feel free to make additions and I will update the list.

Burt K1OIK.
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <4hr1ep$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:38:46 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey) writes:
>In article <4hr1ep$[e-mail]>, [e-mail].
oh.us (Gerard Foley) writes:
>> Ingvar Eriksson ([e-mail]) wrote:
>> : Can anyone tell me what stations are involved in the 14100kHz beacon net?
>.....
>> successive levels of 100, 10, 1, 0.1 and 0.01 watt.  The transmitters
>> are all the same.
>
>What mode do they run?  I've listened for them and all I hear is
>something that sounds like packet.  Is that what it is?

Nope. Crank down your filters and check your frequency calibration,
then listen for that antique beeping we call Morse. That's the beacons.
The packet guys tend to spill over where they shouldn't, so if you don't
use really narrow filters you may miss the beacon signals. (IMHO the
beacon network would serve us better if it were at the very bottom
edge of the band, but that's not where it is, so we have to deal with
packet above and RTTY below when listening for the beacons.)

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Date: 10 Mar 1996 21:51:24 -0500
Message-ID: <4i04fc$[e-mail]>
References: <4hoa5e$[e-mail]> <4hqgt2$[e-mail]>

In article <4hqgt2$[e-mail]>,
Steve - KF2TI <[e-mail]> wrote:
>gEE  2 freq's out of hundred's  what a comparison.  Wait..come to thnk of it
I hear that channel 19 on the
>ol SIT TER ZENS Band Rad de dio  was full of bucket mouths and rachet jawers
and yet you don't hear
>alot about that now do you???.

Yeah, but CB isn't protected by the super-lid-filter known as Morse Code.

Please respect the Followup-to: line

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 04:33:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlorv$[e-mail]>
References: <4hd526$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Axinar) shared the following priceless pearls of
wisdom:


>Are you allowed to carry an HT onto a commercial airliner if you don't
>use it?
Absolutely.

>Are you allowed to carry and/or use an HT in an airport?
Absolutely.  The only caveat here is if somehow your HT is emitting
spurious in the aircraft band (118-137 MHz.) the airport manager
and/or the FAA friendlies may escort you outside for a short
discussion.  I've used my Kenwood in airports from JFK to Podunk Int'l
and never had a problem.

Enjoy your trip.  BTW, the rule says that you can't use the HT on
board the airplane without the permission of the pilot in command.
Unless you happen to luck out and get on an airplane with a ham
sitting in the left front seat, this permission is all but impossible
to come by from the scheduled airlines.

However, if you wanta come sit in the 182 with us some day...

Jim


Jim Weir VP Engineering | You bet your sweet patootie I speak for the
RST Engineering         | company.  I OWN the cotton-pickin' company.
Grass Valley CA 95945   |
http://www.rst-engr.com | AR Adv WB6BHI--FCC 1/C phone--Cessna 182A N73CQ
[e-mail]        | Commercial/CFI-Airplane/Glider-----A&P Mechanic



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:08 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLX007 Hams help in train crash
Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:37:43 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX007
ARLX007 Hams help in train crash

ZCZC AX53
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 7  ARLX007
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  March 7, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX007
ARLX007 Hams help in train crash

Ham radio stepped in to help after a freight train carrying liquid
propane derailed early on the morning of March 4 in Weyauwega,
Wisconsin.  One tanker car exploded, and others caught on fire.  As
of March 7, six cars carrying liquid propane were burning.
Authorities have evacuated 1700 residents of the town, west of
Appleton in Waupaca County, fearing another explosion.  Fire
officials say the fire may burn for several days, and residents
won't be allowed back in until the fire burns itself out.  Among
those evacuated were residents of two nursing homes.

Waupaca County EC Bob Krueger, N9BKF, said the Wisconsin Division of
Emergency Government called the hams in immediately after the
incident.  He reported that ARES volunteers from several counties
were working in three shifts around the clock to provide
communication for emergency personnel and for the American Red
Cross, which has set up two shelters in the town of Waupaca.
Krueger, who's also RACES officer for Waupaca County, said the
Amateur Radio network is using a couple of 2-meter repeaters to
support communication at the incident command post and at a staging
area back from the scene.  He said ham radio was helping to relieve
the burden on the public service communication system and would be
available if telephone systems should fail.  Hams also were
providing health-and-welfare traffic.

RACES volunteers were handling long-haul traffic from the scene on
75 meters to the state Division of Emergency Government and the Red
Cross in Madison, the state capital.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave O'Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 03:34:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4hll6u$[e-mail]>
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>  <4he7dd$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gene Shablygin <[e-mail]> wrote:


>Why do we need to defend our hobby, using arguments like
>"public services", etc. YES, Ham Radio can be useful in emergency,
>but it is NOT about emergencies!

>Why golfers do not try to defend their game, arguing that the
>golf ball can be used as an arm (see "Coneheads"). They play
>golf because they love it! The same about any other hobby.
>You are lucky, if you can find secondary use of the hobby, but
>even if you can't... so what?!

>I think that it is nothing wrong about preserving Whimbledon
>corts from amateurs, who started to play tennis two weeks ago.
>And if you DO NOT WANT to learn, how to serve, do not complain,
>if you will never join the Grand Slam tournament. The same with
>code. YES, I do not see any SERIOUS practical use of it. But
>for us it is a part of the hobby, and without code a ham is like
>a tennis player without serice. Do we need any other arguments?

>I personally enjoy working CW. Unlike many of my friends, the
>code for me was a DIFFICULT task, and it takes me several years
>to practice it, until I became able to work seriously. But I
>am proud, that in one day, I passed all my US exams, from novice
>to extra, including code, of course (my case is unusual, comparing
>to others, because I had Russian Extra class license for a long
>time... but in Russia it was possible, having good friends, get
>a license without any exams).

>So let's use code on HF, as a part of the rules of the game!

>73

>Gene AB5GY / RA3AA

     CONGRATULATIONS!  You have invested many hours/days learning a
skill that is as useless as it is outdated!  Should I send you some
info. on how to build a spark gap transmitter?



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:11 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0den$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:20:49 GMT

In article <4i0den$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Jim Nuytens) writes:
>
>Maybe I'm crazy (maybe?...hell..definately!), but I can't see what either
>contesting or DX chasing had to do with making Amateur Radio better. If just
>1/2 of the time these people spent on such nonsense was channeled into making

>genuine advancements in the radio art, Ham Radio would be at the fore-front
>in technology like it used to be. Somewhere along the way we've lost our
>"edge" and I don't see it returning any time soon.

Let's not be too hard on our postal card collecting brethren. They do
serve as a test load on the spectrum, they do make harsh demands on
radio equipment, and they do spend tons of money. All that motivates
the manufacturers to keep trying to make better radios, and we all
benefit from that.

You and I may think collecting postal cards via contentless exchanges
on the radio is pointless, but it is the motivation that keeps Dxers
reaching into the wallet, and that helps keep the amateur manufacturers
and publishers in business. And some few Dxers also build and experiment,
trying for a competitive edge against their appliance operator adversaries,
especially at UHF+, and that's helpful too.

When we think of Dxers, we usually picture the Texas kilowatts
on HF trashing a fair chunk of spectrum just to make yet another
contentless contact for score, but there are others who could be
called Dxers, doing EME, doing grid squares, doing microwave, etc
who really are pushing the edges of the envelope. Does it really
matter what motivates them to do this, as long as it's done, and
the benefits trickle down to the masses? Read through the Proceedings
of the Central States VHF Conferences some time. That's the work
of a sort of Dxer, and there's some good work there.

Even on HF, there are those who attempt to use finese instead of
brute force to run up their score. We see RTTY, and now PACTOR and
Clover, Dxers, mostly running low power and using science instead
of brute force to tickle their signals across the ether. That's
very good. And even the CW QRP operators often make contributions,
trying to eliminate that last bit of loss, and trying to squeeze
that last bit of gain, out of their antennas and feeds. The operator
skills that they develop may be irrelevant today, but some of the
technical work they do isn't totally wasted. And they do it all for
the sake of a little piece of cardboard. Cheap at twice the price
I'd call it.

You and I may not need that external validation in order to motivate
us to do interesting things with radio, but the Dxer does, and we
should accept that. In this certificate and diploma driven world,
we may be the ones out of step. That's Ok too, not being in need
of external validation, we don't *care* if we're out of step, we're
following our own drummer.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:12 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 10 Mar 1996 06:39:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4httft$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
>From: [e-mail]
>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>Path:
news.cis.okstate.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!hookup!news.kei.
com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.chatlink.com!netaccess
>Date: 08 Mar 1996 20:48:01 PST
>Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
>Lines: 16
>Status: N
>
>Yes code is required for hf operation however.!
> as I understand the intenational laws which were written governing
>morse code as a requiremnet only 5 WPM's is all that is requred to be
>able to operate on the hf bands. the ITU has left it up t the individaul
>country's to decided what frequneices to allow hams who excedd the 5 wpm
>test to be allowed to operate.
>for example the USA could decided 5 wpm is all that is required for
>operations on ALL HF amuater bands and not even have a genearl or
>advacned or extra class . but instead call it something like experinced
>class or some thing along that line. my point is that all this mess
>about novice and general and advancded and extra need not be if the
>powers to be that run the fed. govt choose to listen to the people and
>allow ALL people who pass a 5 wpm code test all HF privalges.!
>
>                   DE KN4SB
>


I really dont understand all the whinning about code. I dont care for code
myself but I passed the 13 wpm so I could get in the voice part of HF. If I
decide thats not enough then I guess ill just work on my code and bring up my
speed to 20 wpm because thats the rules to the game. If you dont like the
rules dont play! Ham radio is a hobby and CW is just part of learning the
hobby. Youre an advanced class opp, why does it bother you? It didnt kill you.

73
Mike KC5GJN


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul A. Cianciolo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CW decoder?
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:38:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4hvuec$[e-mail]>

Hello All


Does anyone know of a shareware or freeware cw decoder?

thanks alot for any help

PaulC KB1RP



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:14 1996
From: joe2tpd <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Definition: CB extra class
Date: 8 Mar 1996 19:30:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4hq1si$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] writes:
> A person who is too lazy to make an effort to learn morse code.
>
no a person too lazy to take any test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Carrubba)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC rules for cordless phones
Date: 7 Mar 1996 03:13:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlk96$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Charles R. Sufana ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone know what FCC rule governs cordless phones?  I have been
: asked by a lawyer who is on some case that an Indiana law
: is being used that lists "Citizen Radio Service Channel" in the wording.
: I think this might be something with cordless phones or perhaps Citizen
: Band radio (I don't know what FCC ruling that is under either).

: Thanks in advance.

: 73s,

: Charlie Sufana AJ9N       Internet  [e-mail] (preferred)
:                                     [e-mail] (secondary)


:  ComEd - A Div. of Unicom (formerly Commonwealth Edison Co.)
:  Work address: ComEd, System Protection Dept. 1039E, 125 S. Clark St.,
:                P.O. Box 767, Chicago, Il.  60690
:  Work phone: [phone], work fax: [phone]

: Who are you going to call?  Fault busters!
:
:


FCC Field Operations Bureau
Get their FOB Bulletin No.10 Telephone Interference
Published 1987
REVISED EDITION
JUNE 1992

Also available from FCC via ftp is a revised TVI book...
ftp.fcc.gov /Bureaus/Compliance/WWW/tvibook.html
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Compliance/WWW/tvibook.html

GL, 73
============================================================================
Tom Carrubba            "To err is human, but to really foul
N. Babylon, NY          things up requires a computer......"
KA2DFO                  packet radio| [e-mail]
============================================================================


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:16 1996
From: Russell Chandler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:29:16 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]>

I will also agree with your posted statement. I enjoyed
the code practice sessions which helped me to pass my 5 wpm
element on the exam. I am a newly licensed amateur and am
looking foward to the time that I can put a CW station on the air.
I am proud of my skill that allows me to copy code. Personally
I would have it no other way....

                 Russell / KF4HKB


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:16 1996
Date: 06 Mar 1996 21:07:00 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Knut Schubert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hi


Hello


I want to say Hi to all Hams in the world .. from DG4ACR


73&55

 Knut
## CrossPoint v3.1 ##


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Young)
Subject: RE: Hr2600 MODS
Date: 11 Mar 96 16:04:19 -0800
References: <4hnhte$[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

Bob,

There are two ways to mod your radio. You can contact Uniden and request
a UC-1250 CPU and replace the original one. Then cut pins 34 & 35 from ground
and solder both to pin 33 and you will get full coverage. You will loose
the repater offset feature though.

There is an aftermarket chip sold by Chip Switch that sells for about $50.00
that would give you full coverage and repeater offsets. I suggest you buy
the Chip Switch as it gives you more bang for your buck. You can reach
Chip Switch at [phone].

73 de N9MSS  Bob


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:18 1996
From: lcarpent@freenet (Lennard Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Info on Rat Shack Comp 100 Scanner
Date: 7 Mar 1996 01:41:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlern$[e-mail]>

  Need programming info or manual for the above scanner
Thansk



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         //               Amiga Corporation!
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From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:19 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Motorola HF?
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 03:54:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4hlnfi$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4h574g$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Dave Whitlock) wrote:

>I just received a new MediaWare to Beta test the new software they have
>added for gatewaying into a packet network.  The ALE radio that came
>with it is a TransWorld TW-7000.

>It should be interesting to try this sucker out.

>--
>Dave G. Whitlock
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]

I would be interested in trying out a beta test version of this
Mediaware software on our new packet station.  It is available to the
general public?  I would also like to know how the radio that was sent
with it works.

-- Mike
KC6RSF



From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:21 1996
From: larry@  (Larry Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Operating Amateur Radio in Mexico
Date: 11 Mar 1996 17:12:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1mue$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Larry Schroeder)

In <[e-mail]>, "Richard J. Bolack" <rbolack@innet
.com> writes:
>Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
>From: "Richard J. Bolack" <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:01:37 -800
>Subject: Operating Amateur Radio in Mexico
>
>I am trying to learn how I can get permission to operate on two meters in Mex
ico.
>I plan to travel to Guadalajara in April and to live in Mexico for several mo
nths.
>I hold a Technician Plus licence.  The FCC could not give me much information
.  I
>wrote to the Mexican Consulate, however, I have not received a reply and time
 is
>running out.  Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Elsie Bolack (KB4NRP)
>
I would suggest contacting the ARRL or the nearest Mexican Embasy etc.
The ARRL keeps copies of the forms and address you need to mail them to
to get tempory operator rights in most countries.  I do not know the rules
for Mexico, but you must fill out some paperwork and send it in to get
the right to operator in Mexico.

Larry Schroeder
[e-mail]
KD4HSL


From [e-mail] Mon Mar 11 13:57:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas McLarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 6 Mar 1996 19:29:34 -0800
Message-ID: <4hll6u$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]> <znr826037811k@Digex> <4hlfka$[e-mail]>

Jeff Otterson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: would have to buy tickets in his own country, since New Mexico was not
: in the United States.  The ticket seller's supervisor was kind enough

When did this happen?  Have I been sleeping for a century? :)

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:51 1996
From: Steve Butler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:58:04 -0800
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960308114117.29652D-100000@seatimes>
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <4hdbpb$[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.91.960305104534.29234D-100000@seatimes> <4hkhel$[e-mail]>


On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 [e-mail] wrote:
> Steve Butler <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive.  Certainly they should be
> >required to hear before getting a license!
>
> ><<I supose our legal representatives haven't thought about that one yet>>
>
> Our hearing impared friends on the highways don't bother me as much as
> those who cannot see or are totally oblivious to anyone else on the
> road.


Oh dear!  I hope everyone say the sarcasm in my voice regarding the
legislature.  If the deaf can drive well (which there is no doubt in my
mind that they indeed do drive well) without heearing, then the
legislature is grasping at straws to complain when the rest of us can't
hear.  If they are making these rules for another reason, then lack of
hearing well shouldn't be the pat answer!


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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:52 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz)
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 01:27:36 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]  wri
tes:
>
>Regardless, I for one strongly would prefer to see stern laws made
>and enforced against using hand-held phones (or "like" devices) while
>driving.
>
>Tony  KC7HDT

 WHY? Just because the common morons can't operate a phone and drive at the
same time you want to penalize the rest of us? Sounds absurd to me!


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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 13 MAR 96 09:04:31
Message-ID: <4i6l0d$[e-mail]>
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i4npd$[e-mail]>


In article <4i4npd$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (W
B3U) writes...
>Some states still have laws that allow ticketing a driver who doesn't
>have both hands on the wheel.  The real moron is the guy who doesn't

Which works just fine so long as your car has an automatic transmission. You
can't drive a standard with both hands on the wheel at all times. Remember
this next time your politicians pass yet another law.

ObRadio: I put it down when the driving situation requires it. You can't
legislate brains.

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:54 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <4hdbpb$[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.91.960305104534.29234D-100000@seatimes> <4hkhel$[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.91.960308114117.29652D-100000@seatimes>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:50:08 GMT

In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960308114117.29652D-100000@seatimes> Steve Butler <s
[e-mail]> writes:
>On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 [e-mail] wrote:
>> Steve Butler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> >One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive.  Certainly they should be
>> >required to hear before getting a license!
>>
>> ><<I supose our legal representatives haven't thought about that one yet>>
>>
>> Our hearing impared friends on the highways don't bother me as much as
>> those who cannot see or are totally oblivious to anyone else on the
>> road.
>
>Oh dear!  I hope everyone say the sarcasm in my voice regarding the
>legislature.  If the deaf can drive well (which there is no doubt in my
>mind that they indeed do drive well) without heearing, then the
>legislature is grasping at straws to complain when the rest of us can't
>hear.  If they are making these rules for another reason, then lack of
>hearing well shouldn't be the pat answer!

The deaf driver is acutely aware of his sensory deficit, and has
developed coping strategies in order to compensate for the lack.
The average hearing person has not developed those coping strategies,
so when their hearing is impaired by headsets, they will not drive
as safely as the deaf person. And because they *can* hear, and *are*
listening to something unrelated to their driving, their attention
is divided so that they are not concentrating on their driving the
way a deaf person, undistracted by music or voices, would be.

Now a headset wearing hearing driver *might* develop coping
strategies to deal with the self-imposed sensory deficit, and
a hearing driver *might* be so competent that he can afford
to divide his attention while driving, but that seems unlikely
on average. Hence the laws.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brent Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 13 Mar 1996 08:20:28 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz
) writes:
>
> WHY? Just because the common morons can't operate a phone and drive at the
>same time you want to penalize the rest of us? Sounds absurd to me!

Hear hear!  I agree.  And I can drink a beer and drive responsibly too.
I hate it that I'm penalized along with all the other morons that can't
drink and drive responsibly...

Not that I agree with outlawing talking on the phone and driving, but
the above argument is a bit absurd.  Perhaps we should just outlaw
morons...

Brent


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Yanke)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: (Fwd) Ham-Homebrew Digest V96 #101
Date: 13 Mar 96 12:33:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


I NEED HELP!!!

I teach code/theory classes for my local club. I have some younger
hams who don't yet have access to HF/SW rigs for code practice. In my
are there used to be a ham, N9CLL, who did code practice on 2m FM
simplex. He's moved and I need help connecting my computer to a Yaesu
FT2200. He used SuperMorse and a similar rig. I'm told the circuit
needed includes an audio transformer from Radio Shack but that's
about it. I'm not sure how to wire it up. Help would be greatly
appreciated.

73 de n9ssg

David A. Yanke     EMail: [e-mail]

     "I want to die like my grandfather, quietly, in
          my sleep. Not screaming in terror like
                     his passengers."

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          my sleep. Not screaming in terror like
                     his passengers."

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   be used under adult supervision.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:57 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: (Ham stressors - Burp Fisher)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:32:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4hs92i$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
:>Here is the list of stressors, along with their relative weights, from Drs.
:>Thomas H. Holmes and Richard H. Rahe, psychiatrists at the University of
:>Washington Medical School.  K1OIK made certain additions:

Poor Burp, still trying to be lower then whale dung. They tightened
your posts up on RIME network I see. What happened to all those
threats about bombing the network from telnetable BBS?




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:59 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: (Ham stressors - Burp Fisher)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 06:13:49 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hs92i$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

> Poor Burp, still trying to be lower then whale dung. They tightened
> your posts up on RIME network I see. What happened to all those
> threats about bombing the network from telnetable BBS?

My local BBS finally dropped RIME as there was nothing there.
I can get access in other ways but it seems not to be worth the effort
but maybe I will just for you and will give you credit for my return.
Plus if I bomb the network I will give you credi for motivating me.

I hope your recent birthday was happy , Russ and you and I share getting our
license on D-Day. We are soul mates?

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
|                           [e-mail]                           |
#======================================================================#
You cannot build a reputation on what you are going to do.
Henry Ford


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:21:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 11 Mar 96 10:05:52 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

subscribe



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (D. Craig Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 15 Mar 96 00:09:27 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey)
Date: 11 Mar 96 13:41:38 GMT
References: <[e-mail]> <4hr1ep$[e-mail]>
Summary: what mode?

In article <4hr1ep$[e-mail]>, [e-mail].o
h.us (Gerard Foley) writes:
> Ingvar Eriksson ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Can anyone tell me what stations are involved in the 14100kHz beacon net?
.....
> successive levels of 100, 10, 1, 0.1 and 0.01 watt.  The transmitters
> are all the same.

What mode do they run?  I've listened for them and all I hear is
something that sounds like packet.  Is that what it is?





--
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         ** Value truth and the speaking of it. **
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons
Date: 11 Mar 1996 16:01:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1iph$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hr1ep$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>What mode do they run?  I've listened for them and all I hear is
>something that sounds like packet.  Is that what it is?

No Penn, the beacon stations are NOT running HF packet, but your concern is
legitimate - even if it IS good for an ironic chuckle. The beacons are CW, wit
h
a CW morse ID at the beginning and end of each station's time slot.

The HF packet you hear is HF packet. This comes from the automated forwarding
systems - or, automated QRM systems. In this case, they are operating so close

to the beacon frequency as to make the beacons unusable to many receivers. The

bitter irony is: most of the sysops of these stations don't even know what
frequency they are operating on. They think they are two or three kHz away fro
m
the beacon frequency!

This is the legacy of early HF AFSK operating when these stations used LSB
transmitters and arranged their scheduled frequencies around their SSB
transceivers' indicated VFO frequency. That, for a transceiver in LSB mode, is

the suppressed carrier frequency - a useful concept for voice SSB operating,
but hardly useful for FSK signals in the CW/data sub-band. Poll these sysop's
and you'll be lucky to find a handfull who can tell you what two discreet RF
frequencies their HF packet transmissions shift between - note that the
question refers to RF, not AF frequency... and we wonder why we can't hear the

beacons on their "protected" frequencies.

73,

Stan
--
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons
Date: 11 Mar 1996 22:57:24 -0500
Message-ID: <4i2sn4$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hr1ep$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey) writes:
: >In article <4hr1ep$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
s.oh.us (Gerard Foley) writes:
: >> Ingvar Eriksson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >> : Can anyone tell me what stations are involved in the 14100kHz beacon ne
t?
: >.....
: >> successive levels of 100, 10, 1, 0.1 and 0.01 watt.  The transmitters
: >> are all the same.
: >
: >What mode do they run?  I've listened for them and all I hear is
: >something that sounds like packet.  Is that what it is?

: Nope. Crank down your filters and check your frequency calibration,
: then listen for that antique beeping we call Morse. That's the beacons.
: The packet guys tend to spill over where they shouldn't, so if you don't
: use really narrow filters you may miss the beacon signals. (IMHO the
: beacon network would serve us better if it were at the very bottom
: edge of the band, but that's not where it is, so we have to deal with
: packet above and RTTY below when listening for the beacons.)

    Haven't checked today, but I thought that when unattended automatic
stations were permitted (without STA) they were forbidden to be on 14100
KHz.  Of course, if the operators pretend they are not unattended, they
can trash anybody.

Gerry K8EF


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <4hr1ep$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i2sn4$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:45:06 GMT

In article <4i2sn4$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
.us (Gerard Foley) writes:
>
>    Haven't checked today, but I thought that when unattended automatic
>stations were permitted (without STA) they were forbidden to be on 14100
>KHz.  Of course, if the operators pretend they are not unattended, they
>can trash anybody.

Their *tone* frequencies may be above 14.1 MHz, but their *sidebands*
sometimes aren't. Too many operators seem to think that because the
tones are separated by 200 Hz, that they are only occupying 200 Hz.
Not so, of course, because the sidebands extend out a multiple of the
modulation rate (baud), so they're occupying at least 600 Hz (and more)
when they transmit. If they aren't careful, this will spill over onto
14.100 MHz.

Receiver filters aren't perfect either, and they pass some signal
above 14.100 MHz when tuned to that frequency. So even if the packeteers
are operating legally, they can still cause problems for those trying
to listen to 14.100 MHz.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peter  Markham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 17:59:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1po2$[e-mail]>
References: <4hmsv9$[e-mail]> <4hoa5e$[e-mail]> <4htcde$[e-mail]> <4htl9s$[e-mail]>

  wa4hei sez:

>>can only watch from the porch. Chances are, the "scum" earned the
>>privelege to be on that frequency, regardless of the "porkbutt" and
>"jam".


  kf4dmm sez:

>Would you please explain to me how one goes about "earning the privilege"
>to cause malicious interference to other stations and use profanity?
>Both of these activities are clearly prohibited in Part 97 but commonly
>practiced on 3894.5.
>
>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
> KF4DDM
>


   At the risk of squandering a piece of my life, for no gain, I will explain:

   First read my previous post, again.

   You can read into what I write, anything you wish. It is your right. Do
not, however, expect me sanction your drivel above, when in plain English I
said "earned the priviledge to be on that frequency" qualified with
"regardless of the "porkbutt" and "jam".

   That means, in another way you may understand, if the "scum" associated
your mother with a Cocker Spaniel, in their conversations on 3894.5, and, at
the same time, someone was creating malicious interference on that frequency,
it would have no relation, whatsoever, to the process that most of the
operators on 3894.5 had to complete to be licenced to operate on 3894.5.

   The fact that the "jerks" have not lived up to several of the operating
requirements, of that licence, is an issue that in no way is related to
earning the licence priviledges. In retrospect, you could make the argument
that the "scum" lied. It would appear that neither you, your friends, nor the
Fed are doing doing anything about it, for many reasons. Thats life.

   To read what you took issue with, into my previous post, out of context,
required a degree of ignorance and stupidity that I cannot relate to. You are
another that bites the helping hand, that brushes away the cobwebs of fuzzy
thinking. No wonder the talent in the amateur community, has, to a great
extent, gone onto other things, rather than waste their lives standing along
side their ungrateful comrades. Some have even become big dogs.

   My advice to you, Drew: Stay on the porch and whine. You do not have the
brains to piss with the big dogs, and you are not bright enough to know who
your friends are.

   On with the rest of my life

                        Pete, wa4hei



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:08 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Date: 8 Mar 1996 23:46:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4hqgt2$[e-mail]>
References: <4hoa5e$[e-mail]>

>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:
>  [e-mail] (john p. sumner) wrote:
>  >
>  >--
>  >  Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt
>  and
>  >   people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks.
>
>
>  Me, too.  And I thought only no-coders were responsible for this kind of
>  thing. I mean, here these guys have at least 13WPM..."real hams", in
>  other words, and yet they're some of the worst scum to be found on the
>  amateur bands.  Imagine that!
>
>  -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>   KF4DDM
>
>
>>>>
ZZZZzzzzZZZZzzz  snxxxx  wha huh???  oh it's only Drew in the land of real old
e people

gEE  2 freq's out of hundred's  what a comparison.  Wait..come to thnk of it I
 hear that channel 19 on the
ol SIT TER ZENS Band Rad de dio  was full of bucket mouths and rachet jawers a
nd yet you don't hear
alot about that now do you???.

But if you think of it, these Bad boys of ham radio will never be joined by th
e likes of Drew and his
no code/no nothing ilk, so it can't be all bad

Get a life and type about something else..this is really really REALLY stale

No code or Know code  3 more years of pissing and moaning  Give it a break Dre
we, your
beginning to sound like an Olde Phart who can't remember if he went
to the bathroom or not




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (FORREST GEHRKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 3894.5
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 13:20:00 -0300
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (FORREST GEHRKE)
References: <[e-mail]>

DD> Me, too.  And I thought only no-coders were responsible for this
DD> kind of thing. I mean, here these guys have at least 13WPM..."real
DD> hams", in other words, and yet they're some of the worst scum to be
DD> found on the amateur bands.  Imagine that!

I have heard from an ARRL official that some of the worst
examples are holders of Extra Class.  These are the people
one would expect should be the best examples for following
good practice.

--k2bt (Extra class)


 * RM 1.3 02583 * if (sizeof(shoe) == sizeof(foot))  wear_it();


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Derek Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 3DA0 and HC8 routes
Date: 14 Mar 1996 21:55:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4ia4la$[e-mail]>

>>Does anyone have QSL routes for 3DA0CA or DL5XX/HC8?

    3DA0CA is via callbook address, DL5XX/HC8 is via DL5XX.
    A cheaper way of getting an HC8 card is via me if you
    worked HC8N or WN4KKN/HC8 at any time.  KKN made 7250
    Qs with the USA in ARRL-SSB, he's hard to miss.

Derek AA5BT, G3NMX
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:10 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: a - where/when 1st ham repeater?
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:44:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4hvpfq$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Jane,
When I got my license in 1962 - WB6AAE was already on the air FM 2
meters for a number of years. So I think between that and the Mt. Lee
repeater in LAX  One is the oldest - If memory serves me right I thonk
the first repeater was around 1956 or 8...
Noland WB6CKT
was WR6ABY when the FCC license repeaters with different calls




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:12 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jay O'Brien - W6GO)
Subject: Re: a - where/when 1st ham repeater?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:29:17 GMT

jenglish ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Our local YL net entertains itself with a weekly amateur radio
: "trivia" question. This week it is "where, when and near what famous
: landmark was the first amateur radio repeater used?"

I don't know if it was the "first", but my article on page 27 of the
December 1961 QST describes the AM repeater we set up on July 29-30,
1961.  Unattended repeaters were not allowed at that time.  I am positive
of that because the FCC read my article and required me to prove that the
repeater was attended during all of the time it was operational.  I
proved that with pictures and my (mobile) log, which they confiscated for
several weeks and returned with a thank-you letter.

73, Jay (ex-W6GDO)
    [e-mail]

--


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE: Airport/Aircraft Regulations
Date: 11 Mar 96 16:41:25 CDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hd526$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeffrey Towle) writes
:
> John,
>
> The regulations against using handhelds on the aircraft are
> comparable to fears about walking under ladders, or stepping on
> cracks in the sidewalk. Unfortunately, the regulations have the
> weight of law once you step into the aircraft.
>
> Over the years, I've used 2-meter radios on commercial flights (after
> asking permission) and it is interesting, even if you only listen to
> the number of repeaters you can hear simultaneously.

So, to me this only means that you (and the ATP that thought he had the
authority to give you permission) look pretty dumb.

> The basic problem is that airlines have lots of things to worry
> about,

Like passenger safety ?

> and if an aircraft did crash, and a ham was onboard using a
> radio, you can be sure than an attorney somewhere would say that it
> was the radio that caused the problem, or the airlines should have
> known about the radio (even if it had nothing whatever to do with
> problems). It is based on the same sort of science that says brain
> tumors result from using mobile phones.

Spoken by someone who 'absolutely' doesn't know what he's talking
about. Go get an education kid and then come back and blow your smoke.

I have personally seen:

A. A VOR reciever give false heading readings when a 2MTR talkie was
   transmitting (various failures from partial to full scale deflection
   of the indicator, to loss of lock entirely).

B. A DME failure when a 450HT was transmitting.

Not once, or in just one Airplane, but a number of times under a number
of conditions. It happens, it can KILL you. You're STUPID..............

------
John Rice   __|__    K9IJ      |  [e-mail]
     ________(*)________       |
            o/ \o              |
Private Pilot : ASEL, AMEL, IA |  "I speak for myself, not my employer".




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations
Date: 11 Mar 1996 22:49:02 -0500
Message-ID: <4i2s7e$[e-mail]>
References: <4he5b3$[e-mail]> <4hganr$[e-mail]>

DeNoid95X ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Thats a grat idea never thought of it when on a airliner to set it to NOAA
: thanks for the idea
: N9RLR/2

  USAir do not like any kind of radio receiver to be operated in the cabin
at any time.

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Terry Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AM antennas???
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 05:57:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4i8cb3$[e-mail]>

Hi all,
I tried posting this to the rec.audio.opinion group, but unlike most
matters in that group :-), I have yet to get any opinions. Does anyone
in this group have any advice?

I have severe static-like interference on the low end of the AM band.
I have tried the "long wire" AM antenna method and with an antenna  50
feet long the reception still has not improved . What I think I need
is a selective AM antenna which will ignore some of the static I am
picking up.

I have been looking at the Terk AM FM Q and the Terk PI, as well as
the Parsec Model 2000 AM/FM. Has anyone had any experience with these
antennas? Have they made a difference in the reduction of AM static
that you were getting?

Terry
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:17 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:27:35 GMT

In article <4i02gn$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John N0ISL) w
rites:
>There has been much discussion about the slow rate of growth of amateur
>radio. One of the more interesting theories is that those that would be
>hams are instead becoming avid netters. Here is an anecdote to
>consider....

In the last 5 years, the US amateur growth rate has been very satisfactory,
at percentage levels equal to the days before amateur growth was crippled
by Incentive Licensing. And that is occurring at the same time as the
growth and popularization of the internet. So I don't think the growth
of the internet is harmful to amateur radio. It's a separate track, in
some ways a parallel track, to amateur radio.

In fact, I might suggest that the internet has served as a recruiting
tool for amateur radio in some respects. Many people have gotten their
first taste of digital operation on the internet and then go on to play
with wireless digital operation via amateur radio. (Of course if amateur
digital practice continues to lag the technology used on the internet for
too long, that may cease. The internet has seen rapidly rising speeds
and dazzling applications while amateur digital has for the most part
remained stagnant at low speeds and with limited applications.)

The internet is probably irrelevant to the Dx gamers. Doom is a different
type of game, and doesn't attract the same mentality, or feed the coffers
of the Postal Union the way Dxing does. But the internet, in the form of
these usenet groups, has probably exposed internet gamers to the idea of
the Dx game and some of them may have ventured to try it.

I think the real place where the internet will have an impact on
amateur radio is against the amateur radio magazines and newsletters.
Already we see web magazines and newsletters, and a lively and
sometimes vehement reader feedback mechanism. Even the ARRL has
not been immune to the internet's presence. It has now become
the primary distribution mechanism for the ARRL Letter, and for
bulletins. Can full publications be far behind?

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jari Jokiniemi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Date: 11 Mar 1996 14:07:23 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]>


I guess that internet does indeed take many of those who might
otherwise be radio amateurs. Most propably there will be enough of
those who are interested in radios to keep the amateur radio service
alive. However, we may see some of our priviledges taken away, as our
head count gets smaller.
--
Jari Jokiniemi, [e-mail], OH2MPO, OH3BU
Tekla Oy, Koronakatu 1, 02210 Espoo, 90-8879 474


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:19 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i51n5$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:50:53 GMT

Gary Stone ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Greetings from Texas,

: I have been a ham for about 8 years or so.  I have mostly concentrated on
: HF, with DXCC, WAS, and WAZ.  I have been thrilled with 'twisting the
: dials' as long as I can remember.  However, the internet has a lot of
: promise for me.  After very little activity on the ham bands for awhile
: (I was on IRC, and I-Phone a lot) I thought I would give the ol' 20 meter
: band a try.  Within a few minutes I was interupted with carriers, (after
: I was using the freq for several minutes), 2 w's started a QSO with each
: other right on top of myself and the station I was in QSO with - they
: were 59 ++ so I know they could hear me.  I could not even carry on a
: conversation because of the above and I moved freqs only to experience
: the same thing again.  I know this is not always the case, but it seems
: to me it is more and more the case.

: I have been told that I can't use DX nets for DX (my true love) because
: 'no REAL Dx'er uses nets.'  The 14.195 language on a major DX'pedition is
: almost unbearable to me (and the rude ones seem to be the stateside ops).
: Every few seconds someone is screaming 'who is on'  'where they
: listening' and the 14.195 policeman is another thing altogether.  It
: seems ham radio has gotten 'different' than what I remember when I
: started (only 8 years ago).

: I suppose the internet has its problems too, but so far I have found a
: lot of friendly people.  (There are the flamers too!).  Bottom line for
: me is that the intrique of radio will always be there for me, but the
: internet has very interesting possibilities.  I hope common courtesy
: becomes more common on the ham bands.

I tend to agree with others who have said that the rudeness on the air and
on the Net is just a reflection on society itself.  On the Net, after a
while I learn who has something worthwhile to say, and who the troublemakers
are.  I stay out of advocacy issues, such as code/no-code, because they
waste time and accomplish nothing.

I have heard about the various problems on 75 SSB, and 20 was somewhat of a
mess 20 years ago.  Have you considered QRP operation, or using 17 or 30
meters?  I have recently gotten into QRP, and really enjoy it.  The
operators are much better, and most are true gentlemen, in the sense of
hamming years ago.

72/73 de Jim - KF6CR


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:20 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: Bill <[e-mail]>
Date: 13 Mar 96 16:36:54 CST
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

We may see some of our frequencies re-allocated, but It won't caused by
a lack of " headcount" but rather for lack of the need for our services.

Too much competing technology today (GPS, satcom, cellular, etc). I just
hope that we can hold on to the HF portion, so that old time radio buffs
like myself will still have a place to play with outdated technology!

73s

Bill
AA4FM/0
Eudora, Kansas, USA



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nils)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Date: 12 Mar 1996 12:52:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4i3s20$[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]>,<[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gar
y Coffman) writes:



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:22 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 09:11:20 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hdlvj$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4hfqtn$[e-mail]>  <[e-mail]>


> Amen, Jim.  If this thing works like this guy spells, he's got a tough sell.


>
> "Announsing", "blatent" and "know one else" indeed. I don't know what his
> device is,  because searching for the number didn't work for me. Sounds like

a
> Peltier device, but I guess it could be cold fusion.
>
> 73, Wes -- N7WS
>
Always nice to see a couple of smarta*sses on the net..Hi fellows

Gerhardt-



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:23 1996
From: "Philip Singley, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Antique amateur radio eeuipment
Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:31:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4iefqr$[e-mail]>
To: newsgroup:rec.radio.amateur.misc

Looking for a source of antique amateur radio equipment.

Any help aappreciaated.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Arlb013 question pool
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:18:21 -0100

Gary, KE4ZV, said:
GG>
GG>Actually, I'd like to see some additional strong voices for the
GG>amateur community. A one party state isn't healthy.
GG>

While ARRL is obviously the most visible "strong voice", don't
discount some other fine organizations who very ably represent
us, both in "general" terms, and in terms of their "interest
group".  AMSAT, TAPR, QCWA, and NARA come to mind immediately,
and there are several others who should not feel slighted if I
overlooked them.

73, de Hans, K0HB




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLINGTON,TX HAMFEST -- WHEN?
Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:23:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9v8r$[e-mail]>


Can someone please post the dates of the Hamfest or HamCom
in Arlington, Texas.  Thank you.

Jack  VE3EED/W7
--


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Daley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Atlanta, GA - Public Service Event List
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:05:33 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The first edition of the Public Service Event List for the Atlanta
Metro area can be found at

        http://www.radio.org/~chdaley/chdaley.html

Interested parties that do not have Web access can request a copy by
email by replying to this message.

Thanks,

Chuck Daley
KD4LXQ


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark Dickeson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: beginner's setup
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:40:02 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Can someone tell me of any relevent web pages/sites, FAQ's, etc that I
can access to determine a setup suitable for a newbie in Australia. I
am especially interested in accessing the internet via ham radio - do
you need a "full licence", or is there a modified one?



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jose Antonio Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: C56CW?  CE0Y/DK9FN?
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:57:18 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ho8hm$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 7 Mar 1996 21:11:50 -0600, [e-mail] (Rick Kissell)
wrote:

>Did anyone work a station signing C56CW on March 7 around 1722 GMT on 18.070?

>Is the QSL route for him via DL7DF?

Yes, me! your QSL info is ok, here are some more details about the
expedition:

The activity of the german  group from Gambia [425DXN  247] is regu-
larly started.  Calls are C56DX (in SSB) and C56CW  (in CW). QSL via
DL7DF (ex-DL7UUO).
>
>Did anyone work a station signing (I think) CE0Y/DK9FN about the same time,
>date, and freq?  His QSL route?

What a luck!, I did not work this, but here is the info:

CE0Y/DK9FN will be active until 13 March  from Easter Island. The
operations are  mainly in CW from 10 to 160 meters. QSL via DK9FN via
bureau.

The source for both info has been the 425 DX NEWS # 253

HPE CU ON CW
BEST 73 ES DX
DE EA2BSN <SK>


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Barry Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Call Letters?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 17:22:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4i78d5$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4i4mc3$[e-mail]>


>>
>>Is there any place on the internet where I can get a call letter
database?
>>(for free would be nice!)
>>


There is a link on my clubs home page to QRZ which is an excellent call
book server.  The URL is   http://www.indirect.com/www/ara. You will see
the link towards the bottom of the page under "Amateur Radio Information".
73
Barry

Barry Rose 2302 W. Wagoner Rd.  Phoenix AZ 85023
[phone]   FAX [phone]
Labels - bags - boxes - plexiglass displays - business forms & cards
http://www.indirect.com/www/barry/


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wayne Irwin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Call Letters?
Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:21:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4i4mc3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Afm Info)
says:
>
>Is there any place on the internet where I can get a call letter database?
>(for free would be nice!)
>
>Regards,
>Andy
>[e-mail]
There is an excellent database maintained by the University of Arkansas
which lists amateur call signs the data base is updated daily from FCC files.
The URL is as follows:

http://www.ualr.edu

Follow the links to the amateur radio page and then to the call sign look-up
screen.  Your amateur call book is almost obsolete!!!

Wayne,  WA1RRZ


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wayne Irwin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can an Extra choose callsign..??
Date: 11 Mar 1996 19:19:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1uck$[e-mail]>
References: <4i0cq3$[e-mail]>


The Vanity Call Program has been under develpoment for well over a year.
With luck, the FCC will implement it sometime this year.  They are
waiting on the disposition of a couple petitions for reconsideration of
specific points in the program.  If you need details, call the ARRL/VEC
office Monday through Friday, 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, Eastern time.
Telephone: [phone]
73,
Wayne Irwin,  WA1RRZ
Assistant to the ARRL/VEC Manager


From: [e-mail] (Wayne Irwin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Can an Extra choose callsign..??
References: <4i0cq3$[e-mail]>
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+

In article <4i0cq3$[e-mail]>, Dave Perkins <[e-mail]> says:
>
>  Just out of curiosity, I remember fetting a letter from the FCC sayin
>that in 1994, they might have enough money to let Extra Class opertors to
>choose a 4 letter call that was no longer in use..
>
>  Is this true..?? Are they doing this now or will they never do it..??
>
>
>
>  Thanx, Dave
>


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:30 1996
From: Dave Perkins <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Can an Extra choose callsign..??
Date: 11 Mar 1996 05:13:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4i0cq3$[e-mail]>

  Just out of curiosity, I remember fetting a letter from the FCC sayin
that in 1994, they might have enough money to let Extra Class opertors to
choose a 4 letter call that was no longer in use..

  Is this true..?? Are they doing this now or will they never do it..??



  Thanx, Dave



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Mar 96 09:51:37 EST
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0den$[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In article <4i0den$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
 (Jim Nuytens) writes:
> In message <[e-mail]> - [e-mail] (G
ary
>  Coffman) writes:
> <much snipped for bandwidth's sake>
>
> :>
> :>>Don't get me wrong...I have an extra-class license, have been a ham since

> :>>1968, and really enjoy the snap-crackle-pop of old tubes, and still
> :>>search for DX.  How can we convince people that we still provide a
> :>>service in return for the spectrum granted us?
> :>
> :>Well, one way would be to update from those old tubes and try to
> :>exchange some real information content instead of chasing postal
> :>cards. 1/2 :-)
> :>
>
> You know, I could never understand this obsession with contesting or chasing

> DX as in the above example you commented on, Gary.
>
> Maybe I'm crazy (maybe?...hell..definately!), but I can't see what either
> contesting or DX chasing had to do with making Amateur Radio better. If just

> 1/2 of the time these people spent on such nonsense was channeled into makin
g
> genuine advancements in the radio art, Ham Radio would be at the fore-front
> in technology like it used to be. Somewhere along the way we've lost our
> "edge" and I don't see it returning any time soon.
>
> We could really use some good high-speed packet networks instead of this
> stupid, mindless shouting for 10 second contacts. 10 seconds? Did I REALLY
> say that? I meant 5 seconds.....yeah, that's really Ham radio.....NOT!!
> Jim Nuytens  N3JJA/Delaware                   Email:

So why don't YOU build a hi speed packet network, Jim?
To each their own. I'm getting into homebrewing microwave gear.
I like to dabble at contesting. I do networking for a living, and I'd love to
try a multi-megabit packet backbone in our area, but I cant find anyone
interested (or committed).

Plenty of room in amateur radio for all of us, Jim.

73,
Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 07:59:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4i8jst$[e-mail]>
References: <4h7f57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0den$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens) wrote:

>If just 1/2 of the time these people spent on such nonsense was
>channeled into making genuine advancements in the radio art, Ham
>Radio would be at the fore-front in technology like it used to be.

It takes more than time to advance a field like this. Sophisticated
equipment, tons of research, and large financial investments are also
required.  Radio and RF is no longer an infant technology.  It is
unlikely that hobbyists will ever be on the forefront again.

> Somewhere along the way we've lost our "edge" and I don't see it
>returning any time soon.

It won't.  The level of sophistication of the industry pretty well
precludes the possibility of major advancements taking place in
someone's garage.

As for the other post about justifying the frequencies we use, the
simple fact is, we can't.  CW and the use of CW for emergency
communications and shipboard duty was the last tangible benefit the
Amateur Radio Service had to offer.  Now it's just a matter of
politics, and time.

I predict that shortly after no-code Amateurs gain the privelages,
industry will take the frequencies.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:34 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Stockton)
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:13:03 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Let's not be too hard on our postal card collecting brethren.

  etc.


   Well Said!


    I sometimes make denigrating remarks about them, and must take
responsibility for coining the phrase "Postal Prowess"  but we must live
and let live.  I still think that contest organisers ought to take care,
though, that they do not lock out entire bands for entire weekends from
non-contest traffic on HF. Some UHF and upwards bands never see a signal
except during contests, though.

    I suppose a contester/dxer must find my version of amateur radio as
mystifying as I find his. What point DO I see in building radios yet
almost never having time to use them as I launch myself into the next one ?

    Cheers
           David


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:35 1996
From: [e-mail](Bry AF4K)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ
Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:07:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4ieef0$[e-mail]>
References: <4i0den$[e-mail]>

On Mar 11, 1996 05:24:39 in article <Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ>,
'[e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)' wrote:


 I can't see what either
>contesting or DX chasing had to do with making Amateur Radio better. If
just
>1/2 of the time these people spent on such nonsense was channeled into
making
>genuine advancements in the radio art, Ham Radio would be at the
fore-front
>in technology like it used to be. Somewhere along the way we've lost our
>"edge" and I don't see it returning any time soon.

>Jim Nuytens  N3JJA/Delaware                    Email:

Jim hi from yiour neighbor down in MD(!)
I think we have not lost our EDGE. The problem is that we have added
zillions of appliance
operators. Like it or not they are the majority, and even those of us who
DO have a technical background, mostly we don't have time to experiment and
design new things because we
are struggling to survive in an INCREASINGLY hostile economic environment
designed to destroy families and starve the middle class.

--
Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC
[e-mail]
Keep in touch!


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Philip Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Commercial License Exams, Columbus OH
Date: 12 Mar 1996 09:20:07 -0500
Message-ID: <4i416n$[e-mail]>


A FCC Commercial Radio Operator license exam session has been scheduled
for March 23, 1996 in Reynoldsburg, Ohio.  For more information or to
register for the session, call 614-240-0059.
--
[e-mail]
Philip L. Carter, WD8QWR
wd8qwr@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.na


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996
Date: 11 MAR 96 14:54:03
Message-ID: <4i211r$[e-mail]>
References: <4gsf2u$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4h1sbe$[e-mail]> <4h5bbn$[e-mail]> <4h7hds$[e-mail]> <4h8p89$[e-mail]> <4heutj$[e-mail]> <4hf2kt$v65@uw


>>It seems to me that the only reason morse code exists is to keep
>>HF an elite club for amateurs who feel they are too good for those of
>>us who have more important things to learn besides morse code.. That is
>>why the upper class hams still argue for it.

If you say so.

In the meantime, while you guys are off learning your more important things,
we'll be on HF using our homebrew radios, building new equipment, and having
fun! I'm up to 8 states and 2 countries, and it's been a blast so far! 100%
homebrew 40m station, superhet receiver, 18W transmitter.

I say Morse is a useful tool, in that it gives one a simple modualtion method
to take advantage of while learning about radios in their simplest form: CW
receivers and transmitters. The NEED to know Morse for emergency comms is all
but gone, but the utility of the mode continues.

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:38 1996
From: Chuck Penson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CQ magazine electronic index?
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:06:02 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Jose Antonio Gonzalez wrote:

> I have read in somewhere that there is an electronic index for CQ, any
> ideat about this?.

I'd like to find out about that too!

Thanks.

--
Chuck Penson
Education Division
Science Museum of Minnesota

[e-mail]
612.221.4510 voice
612.224.5092 fax
http://comped.sci.mus.mn.us

Standard Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are etc. etc. ...

"Nothing is too wonderful to be true" -- Michael Faraday


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:38 1996
From: Mziggi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW decoder?
Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:20:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4id8gr$[e-mail]>
References: <4hvuec$[e-mail]>

A good CW decoder is CWave ver 1.0 by Pika Software. It connects through
a windows sound card. Get it from   ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/ham/morse .
The program is cwave.zip



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:39 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Definition: Jerk
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: Bill <[e-mail]>
Date: 9 Mar 96 23:41:10 CST
References: <4hpr57$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Keep the code...get rid of the code...it just doesn't matter!

Just make the theory test hard as hell!

73s

Bill (my real name)
AA4FM/0  (my real call..in this life, anyway)
Eudora, Kansas, USA  (well, you know!)



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:40 1996
From: Hank <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,
Subject: Does anybody still use NRD59 rig control program?
Date: 8 Mar 1996 15:29:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4hpjof$[e-mail]>

Does anybody still use the NRD59 rig controle program for the Japan Radio Co N
RD-525/535?  And if
so, do you want to exchange ASCII databases?  I'm just getting started with th
is program and would
appriciate any info/help received.  Thanks & 73 Hank [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Charles R. Van Buskirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: drake or galaxy
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 10:36:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4i68fe$[e-mail]>

need a power supply for one or both of these units if you have one or both or
know where I could aquire one please let me know..For my father. If you need a

call sign let me know and I will supply one.
Models
tc-3
galaxy 500
thank rocky


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (William Shell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DX Usenet??
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 05:00:16 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Wayne Day) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, Gary Stone <[e-mail]> wrot
e:
>
>> Several months back I remember someone going through the process of
>> trying to get a usenet for DX only.  Does anyone know what became of
>> this?
>>
>It seems there never was a formal proposal for a DX newsgroup put up to
>the community.
>
>73 Wayne KF5ZC
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> Wayne Day KF5ZC Fort Worth,Texas,USA  [e-mail]          |
>   CompuServe: 76703,376               [e-mail] |  ,__o
>                                       [e-mail]             |--\_<,
>   Member: Bicycle Mobile Hams of America                       (*)/'(*)
> For info on BMHA or the BIKEHAM mailing list: Finger [e-mail]
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-

Try alt.ham-radio.dxing

There doesn't seem to be much activity though.

- - Bill, WA6IET
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC-Out of Control??? Please Read
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 19:59:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4i4lbe$[e-mail]>
References: <4i34kk$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Rick Eutsler) wrote:

>Prepared to use force if necessary, federal police arrived at 8 AM on
>March 7, 1996, to remove a small radio transmitter from the home of
>A.L. Kobres, a long-time radio enthusiast.

                 <snip>

There is no question that the F.C.C.'s methods of allotment are wrong.
Government does not own the magnetic spectrum any more than it owns
all land, all personal property, or the heat from the sun.

It is also evident that ideas transmitted over the air, regardless of
format, fall under the Constitutionally-protected right to free
speech.

Nevertheless, and regardless of the sins of the F.C.C., the act of
transmission on a frequency one does not own is trespass.  Kobres was
indeed exercising his right to free speech, but the F.C.C. did not
infringe on that.  They merely removed a trespasser from property that
didn't belong to him.

Kobres' actions are similar to someone who breaks into their
neighbor's house, then claims they have a right to be there because
they're talking.

Ridiculous.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:44 1996
From: Andrew C Robertson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC-Out of Control??? Please Read
Date: 13 Mar 1996 19:24:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4i77d5$[e-mail]>
References: <4i34kk$[e-mail]> <4i4lbe$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (WB3U) wrote:
>
> There is no question that the F.C.C.'s methods of allotment are wrong.
> Government does not own the magnetic spectrum any more than it owns
> all land, all personal property, or the heat from the sun.
>
> Nevertheless, and regardless of the sins of the F.C.C., the act of
> transmission on a frequency one does not own is trespass.  Kobres was
> indeed exercising his right to free speech, but the F.C.C. did not
> infringe on that.  They merely removed a trespasser from property that
> didn't belong to him.

Is this frequency in use?  :)

> Kobres' actions are similar to someone who breaks into their
> neighbor's house, then claims they have a right to be there because
> they're talking.

If the airwaves are public, it seems more like someone who walks into a
public park and begins speaking for anyone who will listen, and is then
told not to speak because they're distracting attention from someone
elsewhere in the park who paid the gov't a hefty fee for the "right" to
speak in that public place.  Of course, there's only so much space in
the park, but if there's unused space available the "trespassing"
analogy begins to fall apart.

73 de drewbob    aa1hx




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:45 1996
From: Jose <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Freq. Modification
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 01:29:42 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Greetings.

Does anybody know how to modify the Kenwood TM-733A, to expand
the frequency range.  Send a diagram if possible.
I have a bunch of tech modifications maybe you're interested
in some of them.

Thanks,


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Batura)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: FS: ICOM 220MHz Handheld
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 03:37:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4i5g1m$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

For Sale:

ICOM 220 MHz Handheld w/DTMF and Battery

Excellent for Autopatch

New condition.

Best Reasonable Offer plus Shipping.

Thanks,
-John




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Charles R. Van Buskirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: galaxy500 power
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 07:02:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4i0j6q$[e-mail]>

I need a power supply for a galaxy 500 or a drake tr-3. well not me but my
father.. please let me know if you have one for sale or know where
I can get one

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (James Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff
Date: 12 Mar 1996 16:47:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4i49qb$[e-mail]>


        GrandFather passed and left 2 garages full of stuff.

        GrandMother wants rid of it.

        If interested call 1 800 996-2971

        Thank You



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff
Date: 14 Mar 1996 17:09:14 -0500
Message-ID: <4ia5ea$[e-mail]>
References: <4i49qb$[e-mail]> <4i6l9j$[e-mail]> <4i719s$[e-mail]> <4i9m3s$[e-mail]>

In article <4i9m3s$[e-mail]>,
        Christopher K Greenhalgh <[e-mail]> wrote:

>The Grandfather DIED! Passed away...passed on...heart stopped...brain
>activity ceased(you should have known that one).

I prefer: "assumed room temperature".

MD
--
--
--   Who needs looks when you've got taste?
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff
Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:40:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i719s$[e-mail]>
References: <4i49qb$[e-mail]> <4i6l9j$[e-mail]>

>James Moore ([e-mail]) wrote:

> GrandFather passed and left 2 garages full of stuff.

Passed what?  Passed gas?  Stones??


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:50 1996
From: Bill Funk <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff
Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:38:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4id9ib$[e-mail]>
References: <4i49qb$[e-mail]> <4i6l9j$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Clair Robinson) wrote:
>James Moore ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>:      GrandFather passed and left 2 garages full of stuff.
>
>:      GrandMother wants rid of it.
>
>:      If interested call 1 800 996-2971
>
>:      Thank You
>
>
>Could you at least tell us what state its in?
=====================
What do you wanna bet this is an ongoing commercial deal?
No descriptions, an 800 number...

--
        Bill Funk - [e-mail]
        ASCIi User Group - http://www.starlink.com:80/~ascii
                User groups: More info than you can shake a CD at!
                             Try one near you!




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: HAARP on Ham Radio & More Show
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 15:05:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1fhs$[e-mail]>

Steve Elswork of Exotic Research will be the special guest this Sunday,
3/17/96, on the Internationally heard, Ham Radio & More Show. Steve will
discuss HARRP, it's publically stated intentions and Steve's take on the
project. Check out the HAARP home page for more info.
The show airs at 6:00pm ET, (2300utc), in many cities throughout the country
and via shortwave on WWCR, 5.065mhz.
73,
Len, KB7LPW

Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html

The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country.

The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon
days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160.
LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc

Support "WOG". Written only General!!!






From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:53 1996
From: Ed Hare <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: HAARP on Ham Radio & More Show
Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:09:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4i4lls$[e-mail]>
References: <4i1fhs$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Len Winkler) wrote:
>Steve Elswork of Exotic Research will be the special guest this Sunday,
>3/17/96, on the Internationally heard, Ham Radio & More Show. Steve will
>discuss HARRP, it's publically stated intentions and Steve's take on the
>project. Check out the HAARP home page for more info.
>The show airs at 6:00pm ET, (2300utc), in many cities throughout the country
>and via shortwave on WWCR, 5.065mhz.
>73,
>Len, KB7LPW
>
>Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
>P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
>Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
>Ham Radio & More Show info at:
>http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
>RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html
>
>The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country.
>
>The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mo
ndays, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160.
>LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc
>
>Support "WOG". Written only General!!!
>
>
>
>




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:53 1996
From: Zack Lau <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAARP on Ham Radio & More Show
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:01:45 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i1fhs$[e-mail]> <4i4lls$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Ed Hare <[e-mail]> writes:
>
> >>Support "WOG". Written only General!!!
>
> Well, the colleges are giving courses that everyone gets an "A" no matter
> what. There are track races in which all entered get a blue ribbon.Mightas
> well let ham radio sink into the ooze too. Hey, let's just give everyone
> a free radio that gets a license. And a house to put it in. And let's all
> mov e to Bulgaria.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:54 1996
From: "William M. Bickley" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAMFEST! New Jersey (Trenton)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:22:21 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

HAMFEST! - New Jersey (Trenton) - Delaware Valley Radio Association.  Sunday,
March 24th - rain or shine.  Vendor setup 6:30am; public 7:30am to 2:00pm.
Trenton State College Student Recreation Center - Route 31 approx. 1 mile
south of I-95/Route 31 exit.  Admission $5.00; Tailgaters $10.00 (includes
space and admission); Inside Vendors $20.00 (includes space and admission).
Free parking; refreshments; handicapped accessible.  Talk-in 146.67 and
442.650.  For info, call DVRA hotline at [phone].


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:55 1996
From: [e-mail](Wanda M Desmond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: HELP!! NEED service manual for TAC TEC transceiver
Date: 13 Mar 1996 06:30:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4i5q21$[e-mail]>
References: <4i49qb$[e-mail]> <4i5btf$[e-mail]>

I need a service manual for a TacTec (RCA) #MJAW2-EC21G.

Thanks!

John
KE6TGN


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:56 1996
From: Don C Hamiel <hamiel>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: HELP!! NEED service manual for TAC TEC transceiver
Date: 14 Mar 1996 11:09:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4i8upi$[e-mail]>
References: <4i49qb$[e-mail]> <4i5btf$[e-mail]> <4i5q21$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

What model tac-tec is it?

There is a company called RAB parts. I think they are in PA.
If not, look up Kyodo West. They made some of the Tac-Tec stuff. They made the
310sx line. I have some info on the 310 line and some new scanning control
heads too. They are good little radios (310sx).

Good Luck. 73 de Don N6NLX.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:57 1996
From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Hr2600 MODS
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 11:29:12 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hnhte$[e-mail]>
To: Bob Duer <[e-mail]>

The only "mod" I'm aware of for the HR2600 is a rather expensive, though
effective one:
"CHIPSWITCH"
4773 Sonoma Highway Suite 132
Santa Rosa CA 95409-4269

[phone]

No connection of course between me and them, never even purchased their
products, but have friends who have.  This kit involves replacement of
the controller IC inside the 2600 which gives it the "additional
frequencies".
--
|-------------------------------------------------------|
|Jim Devenport  WB5AOX                                  |
|All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed                    |
|My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers|
|HTTP://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jdport/                       |
|-------------------------------------------------------|


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Nadzam)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Hr2600 MODS
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:08:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4i95ok$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnhte$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
   Randall Rhea <[e-mail]> wrote:
>No mods for this rig.  There was a company called Chipswitch a few
>years ago that sold a replacement microprocessor.  They advertised
>in the ham mags under the heading "give your 2510 and 2600 the same
>features as the big rigs."  I do not know if they
>are still in business.

They are indeed still in bussiness. There product is a good one too.
That same chip works in the HR-2510, HR-2600 and the CB radio known
as the Lincoln. Which is the same radio anyway. Cost is about
$75 including shipping and the Socket for the microprocessor.
Adds 10 memories per band, has repeater offsets for the 2510,
but doesn't add PL. The 2600 has PL anyway. Also adds many features
to the Mic up Down. This becomes programmable, as does many other
functions.

------------------------------------------------
Name: Bill.Nadzam  "K8WN"
E-mail: "Bill Nadzam" <[e-mail]>
------------------------------------------------



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:22:59 1996
From: Randall Rhea <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Hr2600 MODS
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:07:49 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hnhte$[e-mail]>
To: Bob Duer <[e-mail]>

Bob Duer wrote:
>
> Need to know if there are freq. mods for the HR2600 just as there is for
> the HR2510.  If there is and they are available a copy or location to get th
em
> would be appreciated.
>

No mods for this rig.  There was a company called Chipswitch a few years
ago that
sold a replacement microprocessor.  They advertised in the ham mags
under the heading
"give your 2510 and 2600 the same features as the big rigs."  I do not
know if they
are still in business.

--

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Systems Engineer
Informix Software                                   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:00 1996
From: Alan Doherty <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KENWOOD RCP Controller
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:14:40 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Hi All, Thank's for the help in obtaining a copy of the Kenwwod RCP
TS870 control program. My next query is, how do you add/change memory
profile sets ?

73's
                  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                  +     Happiness IS Amateur Radio      +
                  +        Alan Doherty, GI0OTC         +
                  +   E-Mail: [e-mail]   +
                  +               ******                +
                  +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Per-Tore Aasestrand)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TS-50S for commercial use?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 10:27:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4i67uq$[e-mail]>

Does anyone know how I can "open" my TS-50S so it will transmit on any
frequency (not just amateur bands)? Will this also still allow it to
be used in connection with the AT-50 automatic antenna tuner?

Please reply via e-mail: [e-mail]

Thanks & regards,

Per-Tore
LA7NO



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alain Baudier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for data on 5 tone codes on ICOM
Date: 15 Mar 1996 20:02:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4icicj$[e-mail]>


I'm looking for all data available on 5 tones code used
by ICOM on H16T and  V200T (ie encoding, decoding,
repeater activation and all others special codes ...)



Please answer by mail to [e-mail] ,
(and don't expect a quick answer)
Thanks.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark Krotz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Low cost CW on 2M?
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 19:18:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4i26fb$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Ken Meinken) wrote:

>T >I just received my tech license and know there is alot of room for CW
>T >the 2M band but the only new equipment that caries a reasonable price
>T > is for FM.  I would like to know of any reasonably priced CW rigs (ne
>T >or used) for this band or 6M.  I would also like to find  kits, plans
>

>Tom,
>
>Unless you are in a highly populated area, I think you are going to need a
>very sophisticated station to find anyone to work on 2m cw.  By
>sophisticated station, I mean a beam antenna on a high tower and a very
>sensitive receiver.  Even then, you will probably find very few stations
>to work unless you try satellite or moonbounce.
>
>Realize that to work any distance on 2m cw, both stations have to have
>their beams pointed at each other and be on the same frequency at the same
>time.  I think most 2m cw work is oriented toward meteor scatter and
>occassional tropo openings.
>

Hmmm... I remember when I was a tech, I was limited as to what I could do
with HF antennas and such.  I put up a small 2meter beam and got on 2 SSB
and CW.  I worked lots of CW (this was abt 15-20 years ago in KS). In fact,
most of my CW to get my speed up to upgrade was on VHF.  True, a lot of
my contacts were scheds with friends, but by no means, all of them.  Look
at swapmeets, its that time of year again.  Look for an Icom 211, or a Kenwood

TS700 or similar.  Find a cheap beam, a few elements (make sure you put it
up horizontally polarized).  There are more and more all-mode VHF rigs
available, with the IC 706 and all.  Tropo openings can be a blast, but I'd
be surprised if there wasn't some local activity.  Unless you live in the
sticks where the men are men and the sheep are nervous.  If your budget
places the rigs I mentioned out of reach (they're older solid state) then
look for an old Gonset or Heath lunchbox or something.

Mark  KD0DM




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:06 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Low cost CW on 2M?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i26fb$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:04:19 GMT

In article <4i26fb$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark Krotz) writes:
>
>Hmmm... I remember when I was a tech, I was limited as to what I could do
>with HF antennas and such.  I put up a small 2meter beam and got on 2 SSB
>and CW.  I worked lots of CW (this was abt 15-20 years ago in KS). In fact,
>most of my CW to get my speed up to upgrade was on VHF.  True, a lot of
>my contacts were scheds with friends, but by no means, all of them.  Look
>at swapmeets, its that time of year again.  Look for an Icom 211, or a Kenwoo
d
>TS700 or similar.  Find a cheap beam, a few elements (make sure you put it
>up horizontally polarized).  There are more and more all-mode VHF rigs
>available, with the IC 706 and all.  Tropo openings can be a blast, but I'd
>be surprised if there wasn't some local activity.  Unless you live in the
>sticks where the men are men and the sheep are nervous.  If your budget
>places the rigs I mentioned out of reach (they're older solid state) then
>look for an old Gonset or Heath lunchbox or something.

Those old multimodes don't have very good NF, and they don't have
narrow filters. So their performance on CW, or other narrow digital
modes, isn't very good. A mast mount preamp can help the NF problem,
and at least the IC211 had a front end replacement board available
from Mutek that did wonders for it. Still, they are better suited to
SSB than CW due to the wide IF filters. You *could* build an outboard
3rd IF for these radios, the IC211 has a jack on the back giving you
the 10.7 MHz IF. I did that for my first Oscar station, which was
half of the first amateur satellite relayed RTTY contact. An audio
DSP filter could also be helpful.

This may be a case where a used transverter in front of a used
HF rig may give more bang for the buck. You also have the option
to build or convert equipment. Any old FM transmitter strip can
be converted to a CW transmitter by disabling the modulator and
installing a keying circuit. Dirt cheap commercial surplus Motorola
or GE equipment can offer 100 watt level transmitters for this use
for under $50.

A good receiver is the harder problem. Unless you build a converter
to use in front of a HF receiver (cheap if you already have the
receiver), your choices are pretty limited. One option is to use
the ubiquitous Rick Campbell R2 receiver kit with a homebrew VXO.

Note that most of these approaches will also work well with more
modern digital modulations, and generally with superior results.

Gary
--
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es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hank Riley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: March 16 Colorado ATV/Repeater/Packet Balloon Launch
Date: 12 Mar 1996 02:25:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4i2nan$[e-mail]>


         EOSS-25:  CENTRAL COLORADO REPEATER/ATV BALLOON LAUNCH


     Region:            Central Colorado

     Date/Time:         March 16 / 11:00 AM MST, 18:00 UTC

     Location:          RC (Radio Controlled) model airplane airport
                        located east of Falcon, CO on US 24 (about 9
                        miles east of Colorado Springs on US 24)

     Expected track:    between 45 and 145 degrees azimuth

     Flight
     Experiment:        US Air Force Academy satellite experiment
                        and RMRL crossband repeater

     Project
     Integrators:       USAFA and EOSS

     ATV:               a. [EOSS] 426.25 MHz AM (1 watt output) NTSC color
                        b. [AFA]  439.25 MHz AM (1 watt output) NTSC color

     VHF/UHF Repeater:  446.000 MHz FM Input
                        147.555 MHz FM Output

     Beacons:           144.34 MHz Morse ID audio on FM
                        (periodic; frequency shared with packet
                        telemetry)

     Telemetry:         a. [EOSS] 144.340 MHz FM (1 Watt output)
                        AX.25, 1200 baud mostly plain english text;
                        includes APRS position data string.
                        b. [AFA] 147.450 and 147.500 Mhz FM, AX.25,
                        1200 baud; special telemetry format.

     HF Net:            7.235 Mhz SSB

For additional launch data and general Edge of Space Sciences (EOSS)
information:

http://www.usa.net/~rickvg/eoss.htm
maintained by Rick von Glahn
[e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------
Hank Riley, N1LTV

[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (W2EHD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: March 30 Hamfest - Upper Saddle River NJ- CANCELLED
Date: 14 Mar 1996 22:04:53 -0500
Message-ID: <4iamol$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (W2EHD)

The Chestnut Ridge Radio Club regrets to announce cancellation of the (or
what would have been) 18th annual Flea Market....which had been scheduled
for March 30, 1996.
Cause?
We could not find sufficient sellers!

Jack W2EHD
Andy K2ETN


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:09 1996
From: Wayne Prather <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MCX-100 BURN EPROMS
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:25:26 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

About three months ago, I responded to a posting from another amateur
operator. He had located information on burning eproms to use the
MCX-100 in the ham bands. I recieved this info and made a backup copy
with my tape drive. Im running windows 95 and did not realize my backup
would be no good, needless to say windows95 crashed big-time.
HOWEVER SENT ME THE FILE WITH THE PROGRAMING INFORMATION, PLEASE SEND IT
TO ME AGAIN, I WILL NOT @#$%^& THIS TIME.

     WAYNE PRATHER  KO6IO


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:10 1996
From: William W Janssen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MCX-100 BURN EPROMS
Date: 15 Mar 1996 07:46:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4ib796$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Wayne Prather <[e-mail]> wrote:
>About three months ago, I responded to a posting from another amateur
>operator. He had located information on burning eproms to use the
>MCX-100 in the ham bands. I recieved this info and made a backup copy
>with my tape drive. Im running windows 95 and did not realize my backup
>would be no good, needless to say windows95 crashed big-time.
>HOWEVER SENT ME THE FILE WITH THE PROGRAMING INFORMATION, PLEASE SEND IT
>TO ME AGAIN, I WILL NOT @#$%^& THIS TIME.
>
>     WAYNE PRATHER  KO6IO

I also have a MCX-100 that I would like to play with. SO I would also
like the info if and when it is found.

Bill K7NOM



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tony Angerame - Sun SSE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Midland GDO Help
Date: 12 Mar 1996 19:30:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i4jcm$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hello folks, I recently acquired a Midland tr-grid dip meter at a flea market.
 It was
a great buy at 5.00 dollars but it has no coils. Shouldn't be hard to wind som
e coils
huh...not. The coil socket seems to use all 7 pins. Does anyone have any docs
on this
thing? What I need is info that will help me wind some coils to fire this thin
g up.
I suspect that certain coils for different bands use different connections fro
m the
socket to the pc board that is the oscillator.


                                                               TIA


                                                        Tony WA6LZH





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:12 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jason Q. Bergmann)
Subject: MODS:  FT-10R
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:22:42 GMT

Looking for mods to the FT-10R please.




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Jessop)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music
Date: 15 Mar 1996 13:21:51 -0000
Message-ID: <pjessop.826895712@tdc>
References: <4i2bbq$[e-mail]>

Re: Inspector Morse

Excellent detective series made here in the UK and set in Oxford. The
theme music does spell out the name of the detective and I recall a radio
interview with the composer (whose name is Barrington Phelong or
something which sounds the same as that) where he described hiding things
in the music, including names of the culprits in morse.

Morse's name does appear, but not his first name. He is just "Morse".

The Radio Society of Great Britain were using the theme music as its
"music on hold" on its telephone system.

Paul, G8KGV


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz)
Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hgb3b$[e-mail]> <4hncdm$[e-mail]> <4ho3lb$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:33:30 GMT

In article <4ho3lb$[e-mail]> rec@goodguy (Richard Eyre-Eagles) wr
ites:
>:>A rational idea!   I have been a ham for 36 years, and would even be
>:>willing to forego the CW test for a license, but am staunchly opposed
>:>to relenquishing CW segments of the bands.   Some of us old timers are
>:>in a CW "rut", and enjoy it too much to give it up.  But
>:>realistically,  as a V.E., I see a greater need for practical tests in
>:>areas other than CW.
>
>I am only removing 25kHz from CW.  I know that 25kHz can go a long way
>but there is still another 125kHz for CW.  It would be nice to have phone
>QSOs Regions 1 and 3 on 40.
>
>Keep in mind this would be temporary until one of the upcoming WARCs
>where an agreement would be made on what to do with 7MHz
>(eg: 6900-7200 Worldwide Amateur Assignment, 7200-7500 Broadcasting).
>

 I think they ought to assign 7.0-7.5 to AMATEURS on a WORLDWIDE BASIS!
...let the damn broadcasters move up to 7.5-8.0, there isnt a single
reason to not do it! The broadcasters originally moved into the 7MHz
region ILLEGALLY anyway! Screw them!





[e-mail] (or:[e-mail]) KB6LUY (private email:eks@westwo
rld.com)
TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA  90405
"ANY COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS MADE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF CITICORP, ITS SU
BSIDIARIES
OR AFFILIATES." (Copyright 1995, ARR-permission to store/archive hereby grante
d)


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Randy Padawer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.swap
Subject: NEEDED "Dr. QSO" by AEA (C64 cartridge)
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:53:53 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm looking to buy someone's no-longer-needed "Dr. QSO" cartridge for the
Commodore 64 computer.  It basically simulated QSOs for morse training.  I
have the other old AEA cartridge (Dr. DX) and would like the "Dr. QSO"
version so I have both.  If anyone can help out with this, an email to
"[e-mail]" would be very much appreciated.

Randy Padawer, WA4FJF
[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice
Date: 11 Mar 1996 15:40:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1hha$[e-mail]>


I wouldn't want to slight Gary, KE4ZV.  That is a very complete
analysis.  Perhaps Gary is a little more critical than some of us.

The only thing I have is Yaesu hand-held.  I use it in my motorhome
with a mag-mount antenna.  I have a J-pole in the apartment which
works just fine.  I can hit repeaters 20 and 30 miles away --
actually one is about 80 miles away.

I guess it depends on your pocket book.  If you can afford it, do
everything Gary says.  I have a limited budget.  In my opinion,
I would sooner get the best hand-held I can and leave it at that.

With the way things are advancing these days in technology, your
radio is out-dated in a couple of years.  So, then I just have to
throw away ONE radio.

73, & welcome to the hobby,

Jack  VE3EED/W7
--


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kelly Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice
Date: 11 Mar 1996 16:14:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1jhu$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:

[snip]

: The problem is not so much transmit range but IMD. Most HTs will
: overload and squall from the pager crud when hooked to a real
: antenna, IE not the rubber dummy load that comes with them. So
: you can have real problems receiving signals without a lot of
: crud.  Some HTs are better than others in this respect, but
: they're all subject to the problem to one extent or another.

[snip]

: I will make an exception to my general condemnation of HTs. You could
: crystal up a GE PE or a Motorola for a few amateur frequencies and
: have a good rugged radio that will perform well. They forego the
: Gameboy features in order to bring you solid communications performance.
: (And even better, you can probably pick one up for under $50.)

Another option to consider is a single band HT. Those HTs that are designed
to receive everything from DC to light are the worst offenders when it comes
to IMD. I have the Radio Shack HTX-202 HT, and IMD is not much of a problem
with that radio. It is designed for to receive only the 2m band, and cannot
be made to receive anything outside that band, which means that the front
end filtering can be used to eliminate most of the out of band crud. This is
not true of any dual band radio, which will probably have to handle both
bands, and everything in between them.

I have connected my HT to a number of types of base and mobile antennas,
with very little in the way of IMD. At one location, our ARES group has
a dual band mobile setup that requires a filter to be usable on 2m. My HT
can be connected directly to the same antenna, and is usable without a
filter.

When selecting radios for use where IMD is a problem, avoid dual band
radios, or any radio with a wideband receive capability, wether or not
any modifications to enable that capability have been done.
In general, mobile radios are better than HTs, since both size and power
requirements tend to be reduced at the expense of IMD immunity.

Incidently, for working distant repeaters, you are far better off not
bothering with an amplifier, but instead spending the money on a better
antenna system. Going from 5w to 50w is only a 10dB inprovement in your
effective radiated power. Replacing the RG-58 feedline with low-loss cable
and using a small beam instead of a vertical whip will easily improve
your ERP by much more than that, and has the added advantage of improving
your reception by the same amount.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:19 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Walt Weaver)
Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i1hha$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:52:23 GMT

In article <4i1hha$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE) wrote:
>
>I wouldn't want to slight Gary, KE4ZV.  That is a very complete
>analysis.  Perhaps Gary is a little more critical than some of us.

Whew. Glad to hear that. All I have is an HT. Gary started making
me feel bad about that, until he said they are all OK except the
Kenwood. That made me feel REALLY bad, since I own a Kenwood HT :(.

>The only thing I have is Yaesu hand-held.  I use it in my motorhome
>with a mag-mount antenna.  I have a J-pole in the apartment which
>works just fine.  I can hit repeaters 20 and 30 miles away --
>actually one is about 80 miles away.

This has been my experience, little that it is. :) The day after I
got my license, I put a 2M vertical in my attic and ran RG58 down to
the basement where my "Communications Center" is. Hooked up my TH-28A
and started talking to people. Nobody's complained about my signal,
but then, I haven't talked to Gary :).

>I guess it depends on your pocket book.  If you can afford it, do
>everything Gary says.  I have a limited budget.  In my opinion,
>I would sooner get the best hand-held I can and leave it at that.

I agree. I won't be able to afford another radio for some time yet,
so my crummy old Kenwood HT is going to have to suffice. This is a
fun hobby, but if I'm bothering people with my handi-scratchie on a
repeater, I guess I'll have to turn my HT into a scanner <sob> :).

All sarcasm aside, thanks for the info, Gary and Jack. Your input is
very much appreciated!!

>Jack  VE3EED/W7

Walt, KB0VHB


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (AWall92116)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: 12 Mar 1996 22:38:42 -0500
Message-ID: <4i5g02$[e-mail]>
References: <4h2q26$[e-mail]>

I have something to say about modifications to C.B.'s.  If someone decides
to hook up a linear or modify their radio, let them and don't give them
hell about it.  If it directly affects your radio or your home then you
have a right to be mad.  If they aren't bothering you, just let them be.
Almost everyone that has a C.B. knows that making modifications or adding
a linear is illegal.  We don't need a hundred people telling us that.
These people who have illegal equiptment are well aware that they are
breaking the law and if they get caught that they will be in deep shit.
So shut up about it already!

                                                   Sincerely,

                                           [e-mail]
                                                   "Curly"


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:22 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4h20m5$[e-mail]> <4i5fms$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:10:45 GMT

In article <4i5fms$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (AWall92116)
writes:
>As far as the morse code goes, there is one main
>reason for having morse code.  The main reason is because it takes less
>time to send than voice.  By the time you finish talking to your contact
>by voice, the other operator could have faded out or he could be having a
>hard time understanding you.  Morse is quick and easier to understand by
>having a bunch of little dits and dahs rather than trying to understand
>someone when they are trying to tell you their name.  Morse code is more
>practical to use in some instances rather than using voice.

Actually, even good Morse operators can only send at a fraction of
normal speech rate, though heavy use of abbreviations helps for common
text. Usually the rate for proper text will be less than a quarter of
normal speech rate. However, QSK ops can hear the band between code
elements, which can be useful, and code does get through in some cases
when voice modes would have difficulty (but some other digital methods
are even better yet under those conditions). Knowing Morse can be useful,
but no longer useful enough to make it a stand alone test element determining
access to spectrum allowing other modulations. Those are really two separate
issues.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4h2q26$[e-mail]> <4i5g02$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:15:23 GMT

In article <4i5g02$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (AWall92116)
writes:
>I have something to say about modifications to C.B.'s.  If someone decides
>to hook up a linear or modify their radio, let them and don't give them
>hell about it.  If it directly affects your radio or your home then you
>have a right to be mad.  If they aren't bothering you, just let them be.

The problem is that they have already bothered us. The FCC made amateur
HF linears bear Type Acceptance because of CBer abuse. That directly
affects every amateur who wants a linear for legal amateur operation.
Further abuse by renegade CBers could lead to further restrictions on
law abiding amateurs, and that would bother us very much.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:24 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: "Richard J. Bolack" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Operating Amateur Radio in Mexico
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:01:37 -800

Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
From: "Richard J. Bolack" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:01:37 -800
Subject: Operating Amateur Radio in Mexico

I am trying to learn how I can get permission to operate on two meters in Mexi
co.
I plan to travel to Guadalajara in April and to live in Mexico for several mon
ths.
I hold a Technician Plus licence.  The FCC could not give me much information.
  I
wrote to the Mexican Consulate, however, I have not received a reply and time
is
running out.  Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Elsie Bolack (KB4NRP)



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Richard Eckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: pre-RFD discussion: rec.radio.amateur.dx
Date: 13 Mar 1996 14:08:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4i6ksq$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

  Last autumn there was an effort to submit an RFD for the creation
of a newsgroup related to DXing.  The proponent, with the help of
at least 17 other amateurs, composed a draft RFD (request for
discussion) for the group which included a rationale and charter.
Unfortunately, the process did not go forward for reasons unknown to
me.  I've attempted to contact the original proponent on a number of
occasions with no success.  I can only assume that he's left the
usenet world for the time being.
  Is there still interest in pursuing an RFD for the creation of
a DX newsgroup?  The original intent was that a usenet group would
take the DX-related traffic off of the "misc" amateur radio group and
would compliment the existing DX-related mailing lists reflectors.
  I'm willing to take up the effort and submit the draft RFD through
the appropriate means for discussion and (if it gets that far) a vote
using the established "Guidelines for Usenet Group Creation".
  If there is interest in pursuing this (or, indeed, reasoned opposition),
please send me e-mail.

Regards,

Richard Eckman  KO4MR
Hampton, VA
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:26 1996
Date: 13 Mar 1996 11:13:00 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Wolf Harranth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Programmvorschau KW-PAN bei ROI

RADIO OESTERREICH INTERNATIONAL
Vorgesehen fuer das "KW-PANORAMA" vom 16. Marz 1996:

- Wir plaudern mit den Berufsplauderern des neuen Talk Radio-Senders in
Berlin
- Alle Welt redet vom "Free Play"-Aufziehradio von BayGen. Wir haben ein
Geraet aus der laufenden Serie gestestet
- Beschaeftigt die CIA in den USA Reporter zur Unterwanderung der
Stationen und zur gezielten Desfinformation?

--------

RADIO AUSTRIA INTERNATIONAL
Scheduled for "KW-Panorama", 16 March 1996 (German, with some English in
between):

- We talk to the talkmasters of the new Talk Radio Station in Berlin
- Everybody else talks about BayGen's "Free Play" Clockwork Radio - we
testet one from the shelf
- Does the CIA employ reporters for secret activities in some radio
stations and general desinformation of the public?

For Europe:
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:27 1996
From: Timothy E. Nagle <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QRP - HELP.  Need to give speech
Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:30:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4i70o8$[e-mail]>

On our clubs weekly 2M phone net I mentioned that
I was interested on getting some information about QRP.
Well, a few weeks later I received the clubs news letter
with a schedule of up comming topics for the monthly
club meeting.  I was listed as the main presenter
for May's meeting on the topic of QRP.

I know close to nothing about it - that's why I was
asking questions!

If anyone has any good ideas for such a talk I would
appreciate your help.


Without a clue,

Tim Nagle
KB0QOM


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:28 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympic
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:00:10 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>> Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
>  >The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
>  >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
>  >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
>  >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
>  >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).
>
> H>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
>  >it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
>  >period.
>

> Why, what are they worried about?
> ---
>    OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------
> I can think of several things:
1.  Security breaches.....remember the Munich Olympics?
2.  Uncontrolled news releases or reports about events.
3.  QRM
73 Gene WA4WBI


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympic
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Mar 96 13:21:14 EST
References: <[e-mail]> <4ht80r$[e-mail]> <4i1er6$[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In article <4i1er6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
> [e-mail] (Dave O'Neal) wrote:
>
>>[e-mail] (ROLAND STINER) wrote:
>
>
>>>To: [e-mail]
>>>Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
>
>>>H>The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
>>> >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
>>> >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
>>> >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
> **                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> WHATS THIS?!?!?! Ham's that break the rules?!?!? NO WAY!! :) hehehe..
> I thought us CB's are the only ones that break the rules.. :) hehehe..
>
>>Sounds like the Olympics will be a real "class act" this time!
> Yeah no kidding.. Nothing like paying the prices you would for an
> Olympic ticket, only to sit next to some geek telling all his other
> Ham friends everything that is going on.. That would be like sitting
> next to John Maddan in a football game :) "Ok, he picked up the ball..
> He is running, ok, he is slowing down....." hehehehe..
>
> --==David==--
Hehe, David, there's nothing in part 97 ("The Rules") that prevents a licensed
amateur from modifying his equipment.

Personally, I think that the ban is the result of pressure from a misguided
major sponsor that thinks that ham handhelds will impact its cellular airtime
income.

Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Mead)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympic
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 15:11:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4i6oji$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
>>> Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
>>  >The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
>>  >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
>>  >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
>>  >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
>>  >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).
>>
>> H>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
>>  >it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
>>  >period.
>>
>
>> Why, what are they worried about?
>> ---
>>    OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------
>> I can think of several things:
>1.  Security breaches.....remember the Munich Olympics?

I bet that security would be better having a bunch of hams around able to
communicate. Denying (sp?) communications is no way to increase security.
If security is that big of a problem, I won't go!

>2.  Uncontrolled news releases or reports about events.

This implies that there are no pay phones. Could be a real bummer.

>3.  QRM
QRM is already covered by FCC regs.

I am not sure how this could even be enforced. Some of the new
ht's are so small and have so little metal in them they would
be easy to walk in with. Take the batteries out of an ICOM w31-a
and give them to one person, give the wire antenna you made with
a bnc to another person, and the third guy gets the ht.....

>73 Gene WA4WBI


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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas McLarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 10 Mar 1996 16:12:35 -0800
Message-ID: <4hvr5j$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]>

I can hear it now...

Policymaker #1: "Okay, and how about enlisting the help of amateur radio
operators?"

Poicymaker #2: "Definitely not.  Those CB's will interfere with our
superior radio systems."

Pfft, I think not...but with the intelligence level that some of these
people have, I wouldn't be surprised if they said something like that.

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Francis A. Ney, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 10 Mar 1996 23:44:13 -0500
Message-ID: <znr826503774k@Digex>
References: <4hqq5o$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]


In article <4hqq5o$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

> If Atlanta is asking for Amateur Radio help for the Olympics, but
>  simultaneously
> disallowing radio's, this could put a crimp in communications.  Sounds like
>  Murphy
> is alive and well!

You haven't missed much, except the part where the people running the Atlanta
Olympics have blown off hams and are willing to use trespass laws (and the
Terrorism Bill, if it passes) to enforce that edict.

Very well.  Atlanta is one of the cities I can be sent to on business.  So
long as the city of Atlanta is an "International Enclave" and not under the
jurisdiction of the United States and the State of Georgia, I will not set
foot into it, and I will encourage others to do likewise.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:34 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (James Aeschliman)
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (James Aeschliman)
References: <[e-mail]> <4heuc1$[e-mail]>  <4hlt0h$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 23:04:03 GMT


In a previous article, [e-mail] (Gene Shablygin) says:

-(text cut)-

>
>:> Four years ago I and several other active Atlanta area hams contacted
>:> the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games about the possibility of
>:> setting up amateur radio al la recent olympic games where special
>:> stations were set up to contact stations around the world.  I have
>:> beautiful cards from Seoul for example.  The person I spoke with was
>:> not friendly at all, but asked to see one of the cards.  I sent along
>:> one (never did get it back) that fully explained the station and its
>:> reason to be.  The next week I got a terse letter back saying that
>:> ACOG wanted no part of "amateur" activity.
>:>

-(text cut)-

Personally, I think the reason for this is obvious.  There's NO PROFIT in
it.  As you know, profit drives everything in USA these days, including
the Olympic Games.
--
Jim Aeschliman                      [e-mail]
Black Diamond, Washington           KD7MK


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 14 Mar 1996 23:36:21 -0500
Message-ID: <4ias45$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]> <znr826037811k@Digex> <4hs6i1$[e-mail]>

In article <4hs6i1$[e-mail]>, Bob <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>Yeah, what a bunch of JERKS!!  I mean, like, nobobdy would EVER try to
>do something organized and violent at the OLYMPICS, right???!!

I guess all the terrorist leaders at Hesbula and Hamas are saying
to themselves right now: "DARN! We can't bring radios to the Olympics!
Call off the mission!"

Not.

There may be some legitimate reasons for restricting radio access
at various points, but I think that terrorist security would be
at the bottom of the list. After all, if a terrorist is going to
come to blow you up, do you really think the fact that he can't
bring his radio will make him stay home?


MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:36 1996
From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Reciprocity with Mexico?
Date: 12 Mar 1996 05:05:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4i30n1$opu$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>This is 1996. Where's our agreement?<

The agreement exists. Contact ARRL Regulatory Info Desk
for details.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG)
Subject: someone wanted HV bandswitch ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Date: 11 Mar 96 19:41:18 GMT

Hello -

I had email contact with someone looking for a nice HV bandswitch
and lost the address in my morass of files.  If you are out there,
I found the bandswitch, and if you contact me I can tell you
about it.

Clark
WA3JPG


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:37 1996
From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: SOS!!!
Date: 13 Mar 1996 03:15:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4i5eks$b1d$[e-mail]>
References: <4hur7g$[e-mail]>

>SOS   is like  BT  etc. so in my book it would be a prosign.<

"Prosign" is actually the abbreviation of "Procedural Signal",
so I guess I wouldn't classify SOS as a prosign, even though
sent without inter-character spaces.

Whatever our opinion, I guess we all would pay attention if
we heard it, and not spend too much time deciding if it
qualified as a prosign, 3 separate characters, or whatever!

<grin>

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Subscribe DX-Reflector, How ?
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 21:41:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4hnlt6$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Alan Doherty <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hello All,
>          How do I subscribe to the DX-reflector ?
>73's
>--
>Alan Doherty, GI0OTC

Send a note to:
        [e-mail]

and place the word  "subscribe"  in the body of the note.

Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Cummings)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: T-hunts and N6MBR'S tbox
Date: 11 Mar 1996 16:03:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1isd$[e-mail]>

I'm wondering if anybody knows of a site I can ftp or even
a bbs I could call where the eprom code is available so I
upgrade my tbox.  I'm running version 1.08 and I know that
a later version is out, but the old bbs number is no more
and I can't locate it via archie.
--
Internet: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:40 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Johnny)
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:04:51 GMT
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy>

Ken Harrison ([e-mail]) wrote:
: On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Steve Sampson wrote:

: > You must not be very active...
: >
: > A Technician is a beginner Ham.  Plus means you know (knew) Morse Code
: > at a maximum speed of 5 words per minute.  Technician Plus Hams can send
: > CW in the Novice HF bands, and do SSB on the 10 meter band (No AM or FM
: > though).
: >
: > Steve

: Hi Steve...  Actually, to be a little bit more accurate regarding the
: "maximum" speed...  Would it be more correct to say a maximum speed of
: "up to but not including 13 wpm?"  Maybe better would be "at least 5 wpm
: but not 13 wpm."

: The 5 wpm maximum just didn't quite set well with me.  Had to be said. :-)

Who is to say that the tech plus couldn't copy 25 wpm ?
Or, maybe he can't copy code at all anymore.

Maybe he can't pass the written.  Maybe he can, but doesn't want to.
Maybe there hasn't been an exam in his area for several years.

All we can really say is that the tech + has passed a 5wpm test.
We really can't say much more.

John



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:41 1996
From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:40:49 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Johnny" writes:

> All we can really say is that the tech + has passed a 5wpm test.
> We really can't say much more.

In fact one can not even say as much as this.

A pass any one of Elements 1(A) or 1(B) or 1(C) may be used as satisfying
the Morse Code part of the qualification in an application for this or for
the Novice Class of license. Set Part 97.501(e)

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:42 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:56:12 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writ
es:
>In article <[e-mail]>
>           [e-mail] "Johnny" writes:
>
>> All we can really say is that the tech + has passed a 5wpm test.
>> We really can't say much more.
>
>In fact one can not even say as much as this.
>
>A pass any one of Elements 1(A) or 1(B) or 1(C) may be used as satisfying
>the Morse Code part of the qualification in an application for this or for
>the Novice Class of license. Set Part 97.501(e)

And unless the FCC has changed its mind lately (possible since the
move to an all VE exam system), they'll accept a First or Second
Class Radiotelegraph certificate in lieu of any amateur Morse speed
test. So you could get a Tech+ license without taking any of 1(A),
1(B), or 1(C). No written credit for the commercial certificate,
however, since at least the rules and regs part is different.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:43 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 05:35:21 GMT
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>,
   Gary Coffman <[e-mail] (Gary Coffman)> wrote:
|And unless the FCC has changed its mind lately (possible since the
|move to an all VE exam system), they'll accept a First or Second
|Class Radiotelegraph certificate in lieu of any amateur Morse speed
|test. So you could get a Tech+ license without taking any of 1(A),
|1(B), or 1(C). No written credit for the commercial certificate,
|however, since at least the rules and regs part is different.

Pretty sure this is still valid.  Certainly it also works the other way: an
Amateur Extra license stands in lieu of the 2nd class Radiotelegraph code
test requirement.


--
Nets: [e-mail]  |  "There were sweetheart roses on Yancey Wilmerding's
  or [e-mail]|  bureau that morning.  Wide-eyed and distraught, she
POTS: [phone]  |  stood with all her faculties rooted to the floor."
ARS:  KD1ON          |                                  -- S. J. Perelman


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Topeka KS Sunday March 24
Date: 12 Mar 1996 07:51:52 -0700
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <4i4328$[e-mail]>



Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 20:14:49 CST
Message-ID: <45218@WZ0M> (45218@WZ0M)
From: N0OFG@WZ0M
To: FOX@ALLKS
Subject: Foxhunt in Topeka 24 March 1996
Path: WZ0M

Everyone is invited to the Foxhunt in Topeka Sunday, March 24 immediately
following the Swapfest at the Seventh Day Adventist Church/School, 2345
s.w. Wanamaker. Doors Open at 8:00am and ends at 2:00pm with the foxhunt
immediately following. Admission is FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone wanting space/tables or information call Steve KB0JYL 913-267-6753
anytime.

73 and see you there de Jon N0OFG


Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 20:04:52 CST
Message-ID: <45217@WZ0M> (45217@WZ0M)
From: N0OFG@WZ0M
To: SWAP@ALLKS
Subject: Swap Fest in Topeka
Path: WZ0M

There will be a swapfest held in Topeka on Sunday March 24, 1996 at the
Seventh
Day Adventist Church/School, 2345 S.W. Wanamaker in Topeka. Setup is at
7:00 am
with doors opening at 8:00. Swapfest will close at 2:00pm with a foxhunt
following. Foxhunt will last no more than 2 hours for those out of town.

ADMISSION IS FREE! FREE! FREE! FREE!

Tables are $10.00, or spaces $8.00 if you bring your own tables
(Limited number of Tables. Call ahead for availability)

Tables, reservations or questions can be sent to Steve KB0JYL
Phone: [phone]
Packet: kb0jyl@n0ljk.#neks.ks.usa
Email:[e-mail]

73 and pse spread the word de Jon N0OFG

--
[e-mail]     Robert (Bob) Davis
                   Amateur Radio K0FPC
                   Emporia, Kansas


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:47 1996
From: Cole Cunningham <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Date: 11 Mar 1996 13:31:00 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <Pine.SV4.3.91.960304175728.3487B-100000@mirage> <[e-mail]>

Check the amateur rules of the FCC, specifically 97.11(c) where it
says..."For a station aboard an aircraft, the apparatus (ham station)
shall not be operated while the aircraft is operating under Instrument
Flight Rules, as defined by the FAA, unless ther station has been found
to comply with all applicable FAA rules"..

Since all commercial aircraft flights operate under IFR all the time,
regardless of weather, and most likely your station hasn't been checked
out on that particular aircraft, its against the rules...

The primary navigation and landing aids on an aircraft (VOR and ILS)
operate in the 108-118 MHz range, the vertical guidance (glideslope) is
in the 330 MHz range, and we all know what close transmitters do to our
ham radios. So would you like to be making an approach in bad weather to
landing minimums (100 ft ceiling and 1/4 mile visibility ahead) and
about the time you get low, somebody keys his mike, turns on his laptop,
fires up the cellular, turns on the electric razor, etc... OOPS, aw
shucks....

The possibilities for interference are endless, and all commercial
aircraft are thoroughly checked BEFORE critical use to make sure they
don't have any spooks...

So for your OWN protection, keep the HT in the OFF position while on
board...

Cole Cunningham,
Commercial, Instrument and Multiengine rated pilot, Avionics Design
Engineer for 20+ yrs, FAA Licensed Repairman, FCC General Ticket,
Amateur Extra....


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:48 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus)
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hniu4$pfl$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:29:37 GMT

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:

> Yeah, it *probably* won't cause a problem, but when several hundred
> lives may depend on it, why take a chance? Air travel is very safe,
> but one of the reasons it is very safe is that the regulations attempt
> to rule out even remote chances of a problem.

And again, keying up a transmitter probably won't cause to plane to auger
into the ground or explode into flames. (Which is the ill-informed answer
I always see to "Why cant I use my HT on an airplane?".) I certainly do
not advocate transmitting on a commercial airline.

And again, it's cheaper by far to follow the regulations and just keep your
hand off the PTT button, than to pay for certification that your (type-
accepted, not home brewed) transmitter is safe for use on board the plane(s)
of your choice.

73 es GE from jeff

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:49 1996
From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Date: 12 Mar 1996 18:29:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4i4fq0$63l$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>...certification that your (type-accepted, not home brewed)
>transmitter is safe...

Never mind that _amateur_ transmitters, except for HF
amplifiers, are not FCC type-accepted anyhow. (Before you
argue, note that the FCC sticker on your HT relates to
Part 15 certification, not Part 97 type acceptance.  It's
a whole different thing.)

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:50 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Used Equipment near Dayton, Ohio?
Date: 10 Mar 1996 23:27:08 GMT
Message-ID: <4hvogc$[e-mail]>

WIll be in Dayton, Ohio around March 25.  Does anyone know if there is an amat
eur radio outlet within an hours drive of Dayton
that sells used gear?  Would appreciate any info.

73,   Tom - NF3V


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gene McAvoy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: USS MISSOURI SPECIAL EVENT QSLS
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:47:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9be7$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

If you made a contact with the USS Missouri during their special event
of Sep 1-4, 1995 and have not sent for your QSL...it's NOT too late.
A QSL for every contact was prepared and is waiting for your SASE.

Send your QSL to:

        QSL Manager, KG7XD
        USS Missouri Project - WW2END
        PO Box 1743
        Silverdale, WA 98383-1743

You WON'T be disappointed by the card you receive in return.
It is a 'real' collectors classic.

Also, if you missed making your contact...an SASE and your
QSL will still bring you a souvenir card without contact info.

73 to all,

Gene McAvoy / KG7XD
QSL Manager
WW2END



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:51 1996
From: Al Wong <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Vanity call sign gates
Date: 11 Mar 1996 23:54:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4i2ees$[e-mail]>

Does anyone know when the vanity callsign gates will be opened?  I
searched all through the FCC web sight and found nothing.


Thanks

AL




--
Al Wong                 The above opinion does not reflect that
KF4GDD                  of my employer.  As with ALL my opinions,
[e-mail]        I write them, you intrepret them.




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:52 1996
From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity call sign gates
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 22:26:37 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i2ees$[e-mail]>

Sorry Al, no one does!  Not even the Commission.  A recent ARRL bulletin noted
that FCC first has to deal with several Petitions for Reconsideration and
finish dealing with the implementation of the Telecommunications Act of 1996
recently passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton.  Expect a Public
Notice no earlier than mid-Summer, the way thing currently look.

Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Stillwater, NY
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:53 1996
From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Wake Up Call!
Date: 12 Mar 1996 02:49:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]>

The radio spectrum now represents the scarcest and most vital
resource in international communications. As the world's fixed,
cellular, broadcast and satellite communications networks spread
to provide global coverage, and new competitors enter the
marketplace to challenge the incumbent operators, the pressure
to justify our generous allocations will only intensify. To
this existing pressure, add the emerging ôPCSö applications and
the picture grows even more disturbing.

To meet existing and future demand there is a clear need to
promote the use of newer and more spectrum efficient
technologies. Because almost all of our allocations are also
shared with other radio services (a major portion of which we
are classified as a secondary occupant) there is also a need
to develop strategies to ensure that we are ôtolerableö partners
to other occupants. ItÆs time to go to work, folks!

It is significant to note that the turf which will come under
pressure is not down on HF but almost exclusively above 100mhz.
It is time for us here on r.r.a.POLICY to abandon the tired old
debates which divide our ranks on trivial issues like CW, or HTÆS
at the Olympic Games, and instead combine our talents and
brainpower on techniques and strategies aimed at ensuring our
survival. Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service.
Will you help?

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ross Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:30:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9ojc$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <4i4ur2$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Todd Little) writes:

>[...] in the Chicago area there is little activity on anything
>other than 2 meter and 70 cm repeaters when it comes to VHF+.
>220 is not particularly well occupied and 903 MHz is *much* less
>occupied.  1296 MHz is a little better occupied and above that
>it is a handful of experimenters. [...]

And Chicagoland is a major metro center.  I live in DO34 (look it up
:).  I'm lucky to be able to talk to 2 or 3 other stations on 2m
simplex, even with 18 dBd of yagis and an 85' tower.  Above that it's
absolutely zilch.  That's IF you're talking terrestrial simplex.

What if we could get a whole crowd of 70cm/23cm split fm repeaters
into orbit?  That would let people with fairly pedestrian gear work a
much larger potential pool of other amateurs, and gets around the
"which came first, the chicken or the egg" problem.  Then you can
count on occupation pressure to drive them into the second generation
of 23cm/12cm machines, and so on.

Could some clever person comment on how severe the doppler problem
would be?

regards,
Ross ve6pdq
--
Ross Alexander, ve6pdq  --  [phone]  --  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:56 1996
From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 14 Mar 1996 14:30:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9ai2$5i6$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

David Stine said:

>Pardon my sarcasm, Gary, but here's the fact: most people in
>radio today (most, not all) want it all handed to them on a
>china plate, with back-lit LCD panels, at ever-decreasing
>prices. Scantily clad models fawning over the equipment at
>trade shows helps, but is optional.

With all due respect to your opinion, we already know the
PROBLEMS. Can we direct our attention, in a good-faith
cooperative manner, to SOLUTIONS in this thread?

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:56 1996
From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 15 Mar 1996 05:16:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4iauep$ij8$[e-mail]>
References: <4i9nee$[e-mail]>

N8WCT asked a fair question:

>Are you posting for yourself, or the ARRL?<

Anything I post, unless I quote someone, is my own opinion.
Sometimes it may agree with ARRL opinion, sometimes maybe not,
but nothing I say here should be interpreted as anything but
Hans talking.





--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:58 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 15 Mar 1996 05:03:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4iatnm$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i7o22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David S.A. Stine) writes:
>So I'm all ears. I think I've got my finger on the root cause of the
>problem. What is the ham community able to do about this tidal wave of
>scientific and mathematical ignorance?
>dsa

well from a reference material stand point, the arrl could dust off 'Understan
ding
Amateur Radio'. maybe someone could convince Russ Hanson to write that
"how we got here" text he talks about doing every so often. (Russ thinks there
's
a real need for a book that goes to the basics of RF design - explaining how t
he
engineers of the 40/50's laid a foundation for the developments that came alon
g
in the 60/70/80's. a foundation that's been "built in" to modern simulation so
ftware
to the point where the user has no idea of what assumptions are being made and
that he gets a result that works in the real world...), and there was somethin
g
a few days ago where Chris Bowick was doing a 2nd edition of his book...

books like "First Steps in Radio" looked like they strained to fill the space
available.
indeed, maybe some of those types of publications that are of limited use to
established amateurs (like FSIR) should be mostly on a web page for reference.
..

but it would be nice to see Understanding Amateur Radio again (and no cute
cartoons and "chatty" prose...)

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:23:59 1996
From: Mark Schoonover <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:05:36 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <4i4ur2$[e-mail]> <4i9ojc$[e-mail]>

Ross Alexander wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Todd Little) writes:
>

>
> Could some clever person comment on how severe the doppler problem
> would be?
>

That's simple -- just walk faster hihi!

Mark -- KA6WKE


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher Baldwin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: wanted: GE mastr pro info
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 96 16:09:20 PST


Have a ge mastr pro on 447.7

need books manuals and controller.

please let me know


chris
kf6ajm


--
Christopher Baldwin
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:01 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:45:09 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <4idjm1$[e-mail]>, David Mark
<[e-mail]> writes
>What's happening is your radio is probably tuned to an FM station
>near the upper end of the band (around 107-108mhz) and you're
>probably under a flight path.  When a plane is nearby (there's
>that word again) and the pilot transmits on one of the lower
>airline frequencies, your radio's less than discriminating tuner
>picks it up.

Whilst that is very feasible, due to the low powers transmitted by
aircraft (RX levels of the order of less than -90dBm even with the sorts
of aerials and masts etc., that we use in the CAA !) then I would
imagaine that the aircraft must be relatively low when overflying his
property to cause these signals to be strong enough to swamp the radio.

Mike

Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:02 1996
From: JA Glasscock <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What do I need to Build a repeater
Date: 12 Mar 1996 01:47:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4i2l39$[e-mail]>

What do I need to build, or make a repeater, and where do I get it?
mailto:[e-mail] mail to me with Vance Repeater in the subject
line.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nels Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Hamfests ?
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:24:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9vai$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

"A. john Gainsborough" <[e-mail]> chiseled in stone:

>A friend of mine travels regularly to Wisconsin and is interested in
>attending hamfests in that part of the country. Any suggestions that I
>could pass on to him?

>73, John KM6LJ
There is a good Hamfest in Madison on April 14, and a good hamfest in
Cedarburg, near Milwaukee on May 4th as well.

Email me for further information.

73, Nels....





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:04 1996
From: Gene Shablygin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: WTB: Drake TR7/TR7A/R7
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 23:01:52 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Looking for good TR7A or TR7 loaded with Noize Blanker, Digital
Readout, filters, with power supply and other goodies; also
interested in R7A (or, again, loaded R7).

Please e-mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WWW Pages
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 09:44:36 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Updated for March and awarded  *** by the .net mag (big Internet
Magazine)

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

The pages contain:

* An introduction to Amateur Radio,
* Questions and answers,
* Lots of  Links to useful Radio pages;
* Local information on the QTH and area;
* IRC Link;
* Link to the RSGB News;
* Friends on the Net
* New Pages for Listeners (SWL)

Lots of OMs have called already. There are a plenty of links too. I
could still do with more from your area.

3550 visitors to date. All welcome.

73 de
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:06 1996
From: Pete McQuail <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WWW pages
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 19:38:36 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hvg4e$[e-mail]>

In article <4hvg4e$[e-mail]>, Geoff Brown <[e-mail]>
writes
>Readers may be interested in the new additions at:
>http://user.itl.net/~equinox
>
>These pages now contain a near real, MUF, E Layer and F2
>links, plus lots more new additions.
>Geoff
>
Superb page! The X-Ray flux link, in particular, is very usefull.
Keep up the good work Geoff.
Pete Mcquail, G8DCJ


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (R. Dale Piedfort)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Yaesu Closing out FT-530
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:32:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4i3ufe$[e-mail]>

Yaesu is closing out the FT-530 Dual Band Hand Held  for $299.95
This is one of the most reliable hand helds ever made.
Some of the features include:
Dual CTCSS encode/decode
82 memory channels
Private Paging Capabilities
Built in Battery Saver
Full Duplex Cross Band Operation
Plus many other features

Call any of the AUTHORIZED YAESU dealers now before
the supply runs out.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 16 16:24:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Byrnes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-11R ... anyone use this radio?
Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:15:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9nnu$[e-mail]>
References: <4i55f3$[e-mail]> <4i7pi3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Carl H Nord ([e-mail]) wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:

> >      I was wondering if anyone has used or owned the Yaesu FT-11R HT?
> >Because of the great advice I received from other hams from this newsgroup,

> >I have decided to get an HT.    Had a few questions:
> >Any significant intermod problems?  Batt problems?  Can I use an external
> >mike, antenna, etc?

Intermod seems to be better than average, but can still get you.  Battery
problems?  Not any caused by the radio.  I have a hot rod, and I know
people who've used mag-mounts successfully with theirs.  I have yet to get
a external speaker/mike, but may do that soon.

> I love mine. It is probably the 6th or 7th HT I have owned and by far
> my favorite.
> It is a nice size, covers the entire Aircraft and commercial VHF
> bands, and just works well.

Yes, I like mine too.  However, before you buy make sure the *particular*
FT-11R you buy doesn't have excessive CTCSS modulation.  This is a problem
for some series of them, and not others (I am waiting for a service bulletin
from Yeasu).  Have someone transmit using the FT-11R with and without the
tone turned on.  If you hear a hum, it's too loud (it should be sub-audible
by definition).  If you buy the optional CTCSS decode board, you will be
able to adjust the modulation.


> It has a lot of functions and you will simplify your life greatly if
> you spring for the ADMS-1 computor inerface.

Don't do this unless you have a computer! :-)  Personally, having a computer
at home would cause more problems than programming my HT.

John
KB0UNC



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 20:41:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4i4npd$[e-mail]>
References: <4h72d6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz) wrote:
[e-mail]  writes:

>>Regardless, I for one strongly would prefer to see stern laws made
>>and enforced against using hand-held phones (or "like" devices)
>>while driving.
>>
>>Tony  KC7HDT
>
> WHY? Just because the common morons can't operate a phone and drive
>at the same time you want to penalize the rest of us? Sounds absurd
>to me!

Some states still have laws that allow ticketing a driver who doesn't
have both hands on the wheel.  The real moron is the guy who doesn't
understand the reason for this.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:37 1996
From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal
Date: 13 Mar 1996 22:52:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4i7jip$5ic$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Brent Jones had a thought:

>Perhaps we should just outlaw morons...<

Cool! I always wanted to be an outlaw....  In the movies
their girlfriends always seemed more interesting than Dale
Evans or Tonto.

"Gidyap hoss, we're headed for the Long Branch! I heard Mr.
Dillon and Festus are out of town, so I'm gonna go visit
Miss Kitty."

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:38 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: (Ham stressors - Burt Fisher)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 06:05:57 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hs92i$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: Bill <[e-mail]>

Bill wrote:
>
> Burt,
>
> I've read most of your postings, and have come to the conclusion that
> perhaps there is at least one thing you and I DON'T have in common -- LOW
> self-esteem!

You have low self esteem?


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
|                           [e-mail]                           |
#======================================================================#
You cannot build a reputation on what you are going to do.
Henry Ford



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:39 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: (Ham stressors - Burt Fisher)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: Bill <[e-mail]>
Date: 13 Mar 96 16:47:35 CST
References: <[e-mail]> <4hs92i$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Burt,

I've read most of your postings, and have come to the conclusion that
perhaps there is at least one thing you and I DON'T have in common -- LOW
self-esteem!

Bill
AA4FM/0
Eudora, Kansas, USA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:40 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Simon Collings)
From: [e-mail] (Simon Collings)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:04:40 GMT
Subject: *** ANNOUNCE: MUFsight Propagation Prediction Demo Available ***

Announcing MUFsight, the Windows HF propagation prediction software
that plots MUF/LUF data on a world map.  A demo of this software
together with further details of the packages are available from my
home page.

http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/

Also available: FREE SWL working aids; download FRG-100 Sprite demo;
download FREE PC-MONITOR (FRG-8800 DOS control); download Icom
Quicksilver demo (R7100 Windows conreol); download AOR software
demos; links to other radio related pages on the WWW.

Simon

--
Simon Collings, G4SGI
Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, ENGLAND
http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:41 1996
From: Robert Bissett <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 01:12:41 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hr1ep$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i2sn4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <4i2sn4$[e-mail]> [e-mail].
oh.us (Gerard Foley) writes:
> >
> >    Haven't checked today, but I thought that when unattended automatic
> >stations were permitted (without STA) they were forbidden to be on 14100
> >KHz.  Of course, if the operators pretend they are not unattended, they
> >can trash anybody.
>
> Their *tone* frequencies may be above 14.1 MHz, but their *sidebands*
> sometimes aren't. Too many operators seem to think that because the
> tones are separated by 200 Hz, that they are only occupying 200 Hz.
> Not so, of course, because the sidebands extend out a multiple of the
> modulation rate (baud), so they're occupying at least 600 Hz (and more)
> when they transmit. If they aren't careful, this will spill over onto
> 14.100 MHz.
>
> Receiver filters aren't perfect either, and they pass some signal
> above 14.100 MHz when tuned to that frequency. So even if the packeteers
> are operating legally, they can still cause problems for those trying
> to listen to 14.100 MHz.
>
> Gary
> --
> Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
> Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addre
sses
> 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
> Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

Yes, and another thing these dipstick operators do not seem to know
 is that in most of the transmitters the frequency shown in the
 panel display is not the actual center frequency of the tones.
 In my Yeasu in LSB using afsk from a PK-232 the tones are 2110
  and 2310 Hz below the "indicated" frequency. I have given up
 trying to explain this as simple math is too much for them. I had
 one operator tell me he wasn't interfering because his dial reading
 was 14.103.

Bob ND2L



--
      *********
Bob Bissett      [e-mail]
      *********


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (KC7FYS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 40m Qrp, kit
Date: 14 Mar 1996 11:20:08 -0500
Message-ID: <4i9gvo$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KC7FYS)

I am also interested in the same subject, a qrp kit small for this band.
Have you had any luck?
Jonathan KC7FYS/7J1AWL

I have some other catalogs, and I recommend the arrl information on the
subject.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Bennett)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 40m Qrp, kit
Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:45:46 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

There was a evaluation of qrp kits by i believe 73 this month. One of
the kits, a 40 meter xciver was available to their club members only.
I beleve the club  was the bay area DX club.
Does any one know where to get the kit? and /or join their club?
Bill
KC6YOX
(619) 4334626
[e-mail]






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (God)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 49Mhz Radio Shack Handheld
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 03:34:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4iaohl$[e-mail]>

I saw a mod in the oakland archives from a WHILE back mentioning that it was
possible to mod the radio shack 49Mhz walkie talkies for the 6 meter band.
Does anyone have any details on this? The oakland archives go dry after only a

teaser.

thanks


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:44 1996
From: Brandon DuRette <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 6.2 Morse Whereabouts?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:34:16 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In the HAM-HOWTO faq
(http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~jgotts/linuxhamsoft.html)
there is mention of a program called 6.2 Morse or superiormorse,
a morse-code practice program for Unix.  The ftp site that is listed
in this faq (sepftp.stanford.edu) doesn't seem to have this program.

Can anyone direct me to another location where I might find it?

Thanks,
Brandon


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rick Kissell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 6m OPEN 3/20 0015Z Wisc to W1, W3 W4
Date: 19 Mar 1996 18:17:32 -0600
Message-ID: <4iniqs$[e-mail]>

Six meters is open NOW (0015 GMT, March 20) from southeastern Wisconsin
to W1, W3 and W4.

Good hunting!

WB9GYT
EN62ax
Milwaukee, WI



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:46 1996
From: "Jose Carrion (KP4E)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 9U/EA1FH QSL route?
Date: 18 Mar 1996 15:15:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4ijum1$[e-mail]>
References: <4if620$[e-mail]>

The QSL info for 9U/EA1FH is via.....EA1FFC
Good Luck!
73
JosΘ
(KP4E)





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:47 1996
From: Steve Sampson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:13:57 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hd526$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Jeffrey Towle wrote:
> The regulations against using handhelds on the aircraft are
> comparable to fears about walking under ladders, or stepping on
> cracks in the sidewalk. ...

You'd be surprised what a malfunctioning radio can produce, and still
be communicating.  A friend bought one of those MFJ analyzers and was
testing everones rubber-duck.  He said one of the guys antenna was an
open!  It was that way for years.  He said with a new antenna, the whole
dang city can be heard...

> Over the years, I've used 2-meter radios on commercial flights (after
> asking permission) and it is interesting, even if you only listen to
> the number of repeaters you can hear simultaneously.

> The basic problem is that airlines have lots of things to worry
> about, ...

Generally speaking, the airlines still use the route system of VOR's.
They do have some fancy equipment for navigation, but the "after-takeoff"
and "descent" part of the flight are usually vectors to a VOR.  The VHF
radio operating on 146 MHz is about 30 MHz away from the VOR frequencies.
Since most Hams do not calibrate their own equipment, they do not know
if there is spurious transmissions.  They press the PTT and talk, and don't
really care if it is splattering until someone points it out.  Listening
to the local repeater, I can hardly ever find a Ham who cares even a little
about Deviation.

While it's true that electronic navigation doesn't replace looking out the
window, there are times when you don't want to be transmitting.  The best
time not to transmit is when the flight deck is doing an ILS with a 20 knot
crosswind :-)

Steve


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Emarit Ranu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations...here's proof of interference
Date: 18 Mar 1996 18:41:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4ikant$[e-mail]>
References: <4hd526$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

fiz ([e-mail]) wrote:

        There is something to consider here.  No matter how good an
        HT may be, the fault can still be in the aircraft equipment in
        that there is poor filtering, etc.  Point being, the fault
        may not be in anything BUT the aircraft equipment.
        Does this mean we should neglect safety since aircraft electronics
        may not be built with the consideration that there may be other
        sources of RF on board?  No, it means we should recognize that
        the fault may lie where the problem is created.  And still excerise
        the practice of not using a transmitter/receiver on board for safety
        concerns.

: I don't think it even has to be a malfunctioning radio. Here's a real
: story that involved me this past weekend.

: I'm a pilot and like to fly gliders. I was in the 'office' of our gliderport
: and the office radio was tuned to 123.3 MHz (AM), our air/ground frequency.
: I turned my 2 meter HT on and keyed the mike to contact someone on a local
: repeater (147.360+). The squelch broke on the aircraft radio. My HT, in good
: working order, apparantly interfers with aircraft radios. The aircraft
: I fly have navigation receivers in the 112-116 MHz region which my HT could
: likely cause to go bonkers. If/when I'm instrument rated, ALL non-aircraft
: electronics (receivers and transmitters alike) *WILL* be turned off if I'm f
lying
: IFR. If the passenger doesn't like it, they can get out, right there, right
then.
: BTW, I was using a Larsen HT antenna thats a bit, but not much, more than a
rubber
: duck, its got about a 6 inch coil with a 6 inch whip on top.

: Will I take my passengers word their HT is in 'good working order' and 'rumo
rs
: of interference are no more than like stepping on cracks in the sidewalk'...
Hell
: no if I'm in a cloud relying on the instruments...

: "I'M THE PILOT IN <BOLD> COMMAND </BOLD>"...

: ttfn  fiz (KG0YG, PP-Glider,ASEL)

--
        -Emarit, KG0CQ  73's   [e-mail]
        Electrical Engineering, Colorado State Univeristy
        Packet:                KG0CQ@KF0UW.#NECO.USA.NOAM
        All generalizations are bad.  Censorship:  ######
        _._  __.  _____  _._.  __._


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:49 1996
From: fiz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations...here's proof of interference
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:30:19 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hd526$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4ikant$[e-mail]>

Emarit Ranu wrote:
>
> fiz ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>         There is something to consider here.  No matter how good an
>         HT may be, the fault can still be in the aircraft equipment in
>         that there is poor filtering, etc.  Point being, the fault
>         may not be in anything BUT the aircraft equipment.
>         Does this mean we should neglect safety since aircraft electronics
>         may not be built with the consideration that there may be other
>         sources of RF on board?  No, it means we should recognize that
>         the fault may lie where the problem is created.  And still excerise
>         the practice of not using a transmitter/receiver on board for safety
>         concerns.
>
> : I don't think it even has to be a malfunctioning radio. Here's a real
> : story that involved me this past weekend.
>


Absolutely, I meant to mention this as well...The bottom line is my HT and
the aircraft radio I mention in my earlier post are simply not compatible at
a distance of 10 feet. Maybe theres nothing wrong with either radio. Maybe its
just an "intermidiate frequency" coincidence, maybe its a less obvious couplin
g.
Who knows? Falling from the sky like a sack of wet cement is no
place to discover things like this. I'm flying from Denver to St. Louis later
this week (TWA). MY radio will be along for the ride, in my luggage (maybe car
ryon)
with the antenna and battery removed. I'll have plenty of time to play with it
in St. Louis, and can listen to traffic at a couple airports from my living ro
om
whenever the mood strikes anyway.

ttfn  fiz (KG0YG)


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:52 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline - Melbourne Number Change Coming Up
Date: 17 Mar 1996 22:45:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4ii4mu$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

for those of you who get the amateur radio newsline from the Melbourne Florida
number sponsored by the Collins Amateur Radio Club in Melbourne (KE4ZAY)..
please note that in approximately 8-10 weeks, a new telephone system will be
installed at the location where the answering machine is setup. at this time,
it
is unknown if there will be an analog line made available for the existing mod
em
pool (where the answering machine is piggybacked on a never-answer modem)
since the new switch may require centralization of this function.

also, all the telephone numbers at our site will be changing - we'll try to fi
nd out
the situation ASAP and will post info about the availability of the service an
d
the phone numbers when we find something out.

until then (around mid-may) the [phone] line will be running.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:53 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 22:06:33 GMT

John N0ISL ([e-mail]) wrote:

: My question.. Will  Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an
: enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. 73 de N0ISL John in
: Minnesota.....

I tend to feel that people become interested in either, for different
reasons and uses.

Personally, I have trouble seeing what the interest is in the digital modes.
I just bought a book on packet radio yesterday; not that I am that
interested, but as treasurer and Field Day chairman for our local club, it
is a good way to stay in contact with the other officers and members.  But I
wonder why so many members of our club are such packet evangelists?  The
data rates and propagation times are in the stone age, when compared with
the Internet.

The Net, a d the WWW in particular, has enhanced my enjoyment of ham radio
by providing the great web pages, callsign lookup, online pricing, mailing
lists and many other areas with current information.  But ham radio is the
hobby, and the Net is the adjunct.

But if a ham on the other side of the country had both Internet and packet
access, you can bet that  I would use the Net to send a time-critical message
to him.

73 de Jim - KF6CR




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:54 1996
From: [e-mail](Bry AF4K)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:03:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4iee76$[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]>

On Mar 10, 1996 21:17:59 in article <Amateur Radio/Internet>,
'[e-mail] (John N0ISL)' wrote:


>There has been much discussion about the slow rate of growth of amateur
>radio. One of the more interesting theories is that those that would be
>hams are instead becoming avid netters. Here is an anecdote to
>consider....
>
>Today I put a spot out for A61AD on the DX cluster, As I usually do I
>listened for a while to see if anyone I knew would break the pile up and
>get the A61 in the log. One of the members of my DX club got through to
>Saeed and during that QSO I could hear the call to prayer from the mosque
>that is about 100 meters from the open window in Saeed's shack. Is this a
>unique experience for hams or are there similar experiences for netters.

Didn't anyone tell you that he runs a TAPE PLAYER in the background with
that stuff?
<grin!>

--
Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC
[e-mail]
Keep in touch!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:56 1996
From: Gary Stone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Date: 12 Mar 1996 23:35:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4i51n5$[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jim Lowman) wrote:
>John N0ISL ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: My question.. Will  Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an
>: enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. 73 de N0ISL John in
>: Minnesota.....
>
>I tend to feel that people become interested in either, for different
>reasons and uses.
>
>Personally, I have trouble seeing what the interest is in the digital modes.
>I just bought a book on packet radio yesterday; not that I am that
>interested, but as treasurer and Field Day chairman for our local club, it
>is a good way to stay in contact with the other officers and members.  But I
>wonder why so many members of our club are such packet evangelists?  The
>data rates and propagation times are in the stone age, when compared with
>the Internet.
>
>The Net, a d the WWW in particular, has enhanced my enjoyment of ham radio
>by providing the great web pages, callsign lookup, online pricing, mailing
>lists and many other areas with current information.  But ham radio is the
>hobby, and the Net is the adjunct.
>
>But if a ham on the other side of the country had both Internet and packet
>access, you can bet that  I would use the Net to send a time-critical message
>to him.
>
>73 de Jim - KF6CR

Greetings from Texas,

I have been a ham for about 8 years or so.  I have mostly concentrated on
HF, with DXCC, WAS, and WAZ.  I have been thrilled with 'twisting the
dials' as long as I can remember.  However, the internet has a lot of
promise for me.  After very little activity on the ham bands for awhile
(I was on IRC, and I-Phone a lot) I thought I would give the ol' 20 meter
band a try.  Within a few minutes I was interupted with carriers, (after
I was using the freq for several minutes), 2 w's started a QSO with each
other right on top of myself and the station I was in QSO with - they
were 59 ++ so I know they could hear me.  I could not even carry on a
conversation because of the above and I moved freqs only to experience
the same thing again.  I know this is not always the case, but it seems
to me it is more and more the case.

I have been told that I can't use DX nets for DX (my true love) because
'no REAL Dx'er uses nets.'  The 14.195 language on a major DX'pedition is
almost unbearable to me (and the rude ones seem to be the stateside ops).
Every few seconds someone is screaming 'who is on'  'where they
listening' and the 14.195 policeman is another thing altogether.  It
seems ham radio has gotten 'different' than what I remember when I
started (only 8 years ago).

I suppose the internet has its problems too, but so far I have found a
lot of friendly people.  (There are the flamers too!).  Bottom line for
me is that the intrique of radio will always be there for me, but the
internet has very interesting possibilities.  I hope common courtesy
becomes more common on the ham bands.

Thats my .02 worth,

73 de N5PHT


--

       /\__/\        Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT)
        0  0         E-Mail:  [e-mail]
         @               or    [e-mail]
       (_/\_)        Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone
         ~~




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Date: 17 Mar 1996 20:00:55 -0500
Message-ID: <4iick7$[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i51n5$[e-mail]>

In article <4i51n5$[e-mail]>,
        Gary Stone  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Within a few minutes I was interupted with carriers, (after
>I was using the freq for several minutes), 2 w's started a QSO with each
>other right on top of myself and the station I was in QSO with - they
>were 59 ++ so I know they could hear me.

With all due respect, just because two stations were "59++" at your
end doesn't mean that they "could hear" you. I can't count the number
of stations that I've worked where I was hearing them "59" and my
signal to them was anywhere from a 5-3 to a 5-7.

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (John N0ISL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Date: 15 Mar 1996 21:04:38 -0500
Message-ID: <4id7jm$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (John N0ISL)

>Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
>From: Steve Sampson <[e-mail]>
>Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:45:09 -0600
>Message-ID: <[e-mail]

Steve Replies to my Interent questions with some good points of his own:

>We're in a period of transition.  Radio, which was VERY popular to most
>Hams in their youth, is being replaced by satellite and wire-line links.
>While radio will always have a cult, there will never be the population
>of the 50's and 60's.

Very True, I remember in the 1950's (I give away my age) when everyone in
the  Hood knew the resident ham, They got christmas greetings and birthday
messages via Ham radio.

>If you analyze what goes on in the Ham bands, you find that for the most
>part it allows a group of people to communicate with each other, who have
>common interests.  Listening through the 75 meter and 40 meter bands at
>arious times will show that most are appliance operators.  The facade of
>Hams building their own equipment is relegated to the QRP Morse Code
bands.

I work in the local ham store, I spend a lot of time working with new hams
who range a lot in age in setting up digital stations, Computer control
and satelitte stations. Believe me, Integrating a 386, an ST-1, NOVA, the
Yaesu Rotor, An ICOM 820 and all the amps, preamps and etc is building a
station. I have yet to have a ham who finaly hears their first satelitte
engineering beacon coming from space, at a place his computer predicted
whe he said it would arrive not sound excited. So what if your Internet
connection get through to Prince or Rush.. Somebody had to, and what was
the skill involved.. (unless you wrote a program that ties up all the
lines into your switch so only your call gets through)

>It's merely a nostalgia thing anymore.  You can communicate much easier
>via satellites and wireline, with several orders of magnitude increase in
>through-put.  The sad thing about Ham radio, is that the current
generation
>is composed mostly of "me" people.  Screw the rules, screw my neighbor, I
>want that QSL card.  Screw everyone, me, me, me...  Plus, they want
someone
>else to build and maintain it.

I really hope this isn't true. I have no evidence to refute it... Sad

>If you show a 13 year old a cell-phone and a talkie, he/she will pick the
>cell phone 99% of the time.  It's not that he/she doesn't appreciate Ham
>radio, it's just that they can communicate with more of who they know.

Show a 13 year old Packet, gateways and FM Its the Cellphone that gets
ignored
There is so much more to the world than 2 meter repeaters....

>The current generation of Hams do not tolerate teens on repeaters.  In
almost
>every case they make them unwelcome.  Being a Ham mentor is a thing of
the
>past.

This we could do something about.. Become a mentor. Get on the ARRL
resource list for uour area..  Run a session for teens, by teens at your
next hamfest. Time
for me to get off the soapbox. Thanks Steve, I enjoyed reading your
views...

73 and CUL de N0ISL Jopn

John Douglas, N0ISL
AX.25 N0ISL@KZ7I.#MSP.MN.USA.NOAM
I'm in Minnesota only because I must be somewhere!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:04:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nils)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Date: 13 Mar 1996 06:56:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4i5rid$[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]>,<[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) wri
tes:
>John N0ISL ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: My question.. Will  Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an
>: enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. 73 de N0ISL John in
>: Minnesota.....
>
>I tend to feel that people become interested in either, for different
>reasons and uses.
>

Both is interesting. But HF conditions are related to nature (the ionosphere)
and thereby becomes quite a different thing, for one thing its
inpredictability, which gives it another thrilling dimension.


Internet gives fast and secure information from a lot of various sources.

And, perhaps all QSL cards will be send through Internet in the future.

Nils


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:00 1996
From: Steve Sampson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:45:09 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]>

John N0ISL wrote:
> My question.. Will  Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an
> enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think.

We're in a period of transition.  Radio, which was VERY popular to most
Hams in their youth, is being replaced by satellite and wire-line links.
While radio will always have a cult, there will never be the population
of the 50's and 60's.

If you analyze what goes on in the Ham bands, you find that for the most
part it allows a group of people to communicate with each other, who have
common interests.  Listening through the 75 meter and 40 meter bands at
various times will show that most are appliance operators.  The facade of
Hams building their own equipment is relegated to the QRP Morse Code bands.

It's merely a nostalgia thing anymore.  You can communicate much easier
via satellites and wireline, with several orders of magnitude increase in
through-put.  The sad thing about Ham radio, is that the current generation
is composed mostly of "me" people.  Screw the rules, screw my neighbor, I
want that QSL card.  Screw everyone, me, me, me...  Plus, they want someone
else to build and maintain it.

If you show a 13 year old a cell-phone and a talkie, he/she will pick the
cell phone 99% of the time.  It's not that he/she doesn't appreciate Ham
radio, it's just that they can communicate with more of who they know.
The current generation of Hams do not tolerate teens on repeaters.  In almost
every case they make them unwelcome.  Being a Ham mentor is a thing of the
past.

FWIW

Steve,
N5OWK


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:00:00 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) writ
es:
>John N0ISL ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: My question.. Will  Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an
>: enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. 73 de N0ISL John in
>: Minnesota.....
>
>I tend to feel that people become interested in either, for different
>reasons and uses.
>
>Personally, I have trouble seeing what the interest is in the digital modes.
>I just bought a book on packet radio yesterday; not that I am that
>interested, but as treasurer and Field Day chairman for our local club, it
>is a good way to stay in contact with the other officers and members.  But I
>wonder why so many members of our club are such packet evangelists?  The
>data rates and propagation times are in the stone age, when compared with
>the Internet.

Well, yes, if you're using stone age equipment. But not everyone has
switched 56 telco lines into their house, and a 56 kb packet link
is pretty snappy. Still, the internet uses T3 (and above) in places,
and few amateurs have gone to that sort of speed yet. The more important
reason for amateur excitement about packet is that the network design
is under the amateur's control, and not under the control of some
corporate provider. Thus the amateur is free to tinker with the network,
learning and experimenting in ways that are impossible with an internet
connection. Then there's the whole field of RF encoding and modulation
techniques that the amateur can explore, none of which are available
to him using a dialup to a internet service provider.

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:03 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: Bill <[e-mail]>
Date: 14 Mar 96 17:29:55 CST
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i51n5$[e-mail]>

If you think ham radio is different now, after starting into it only 8
years ago, you should interact with it from my point of view.  I started
in 1968!

Seems we have spawned a whole new breed of inconsiderate, uncouth jerks!
Those of you who fit this description, I'm talking to you! If you try
to ruin it for everyone else, then you are just ruining it for yourself!

Sort of like tailgaters and other assorted "traffic jerks", of which,
BTW, we are seeing more than our fair share these days.  By being
inconsiderate, you just make things worse for everyone including
yourself.

For this radio thing to work out, can't we all practice some manners?


73s (I hope!)


Bill Worthington
AA4FM/0
Eudora, Kansas, USA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:04 1996
From: "Philip Singley, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ANTIQUE AMATEUR RADIO EQUIPMENT
Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:35:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4ieg3j$[e-mail]>
To: news:rec.radio.amateur.misc

Looking for a source for antique amateur radio equipment.  Any help
appreciated.


                                        73
                                     Phil - fmr K5FSP



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:04 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Anxiously waiting
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 01:00:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4iq2iu$[e-mail]>

It has been a few weeks since I sat here and read the daily postings
berating Bert, K1 OOF.  What happened to them?  Has Bart,  K2OFF not
harpooned anyone lately.  Come on fellas..(and ladies)... I miss the
action.  Let's get Bird,  K1ouf.





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:05 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Arlb013 question pool
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:50:29 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> writes:

>the 800 pound gorilla in that regard, with a bit under 20% of
>amateurs being at least "subscription" members.

You say under 20% of the amateurs (ARRL). That may be true regarding total

care less, etc., the ARRL represents then at least half of the ACTIVE amateurs
.
And probably the MOST active. The ARRL percentage is about the same as the
percentage in other industrialized nations.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:06 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Arlb013 question pool
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:01:39 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>the 800 pound gorilla in that regard, with a bit under 20% of
>>amateurs being at least "subscription" members.
>
>You say under 20% of the amateurs (ARRL). That may be true regarding total
>care less, etc., the ARRL represents then at least half of the ACTIVE amateur
s.
>And probably the MOST active. The ARRL percentage is about the same as the
>percentage in other industrialized nations.

Do you have any evidence of that, or is it just wishful thinking?

Gary
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:07 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLB016 NY Section changes
Date: 14 Mar 1996 14:45:23 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB QST @ ARL $ARLB016
ARLB016 NY Section changes

ZCZC AG95
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 16  ARLB016
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  March 14, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB016
ARLB016 NY Section changes

The ARRL Executive Committee has voted unanimously to transfer
Herkimer and Otsego Counties of New York from the Northern New York
Section to the Western New York Section, effective April 1, 1996.
The decision was based on the results of a canvass of affected
members which clearly favored the return of those counties to the
Western New York Section.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:08 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLP011 Propagation de KT7H
Date: 15 Mar 1996 17:00:51 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP011
ARLP011 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP32
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 11  ARLP011
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  March 15, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP011
ARLP011 Propagation de KT7H

Solar flux and sunspot numbers were about the same last week as
the week previous.  March 11 was quite disturbed, with the K index
as high as 6 and an A index of 28 for the day.  Conditions are
expected to become unsettled again through March 17, and again on
March 22 and 23 and April 6 and 7.

Expect solar flux values to continue to drift between 70 and 75
here at the bottom of the sunspot cycle.  The latest projection
from the NOAA Space Environment Service Center shows the sunspot
number bottoming out between April and June of this year, and the
solar flux reaching minimum between December of this year and
February of 1997.  For the solar flux, this is a bit sooner than
any previously forecast.   Two years out look for average flux
values about 20 points higher than they are now, perhaps in the
mid to high nineties.

Sunspot Numbers for March 7 through 13 were 0, 0, 0, 0, 18, 27 and
24, with a mean of 9.9.  10.7 cm flux was 67.8, 69.8, 67.5, 69.1,
71.8, 73.2 and 71.3, with a mean of 70.1.

The path projections for this week are from the center of the U.S.
to Western Europe, Southern Africa, South America, South Pacific
and Japan.

To Western Europe look for 80 meters to open from 0030z to 0700z,
40 meters from 2330z to 0700z and 30 meters around 2100z.  20
meters looks good from 1430z to 2000z, and 17 meters around 1800z.

To Southern Africa expect 80 to open from 0100z to 0400z, 40 from
0030z to 0430z, 30 from 2300z to 0230z, 20 from 2000z to 2300z, 17
from 1700z to 1930z and 15 from 1800z to 1900z.

To South America check 80 from 0100z to 1000z, 40 from 0000z to
1030z, 30 from 2300z to 1030z with a weak period around 0900z, 20
from 2000z to 0200z, 17 from 1430z to 0100z and 15 from 1600z to
2230z.

To South Pacific 80 should open from 0600z to 1300z, 40 from 0500z
to 1400z, 30 from 0400z to 1430z, 20 around 1700z to 1830z and
0130z to 0330z, 17 from 1730z to 0100z and 15 from 1800z to 2300z.

To Japan check 80 from 0900z to 1300z, 40 from 0830z to 1400z, 30
from 1330z to 1530z and again around 0700z, 20 from 2100z to 0130z
and 17 from 2200z to 0000z.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:09 1996
From: Michael Tracy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL Code Practice on 2 meters
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:46:03 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4int53$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I have a question.
>
> I have an FM HT and live in cincinnati, OH.  Is there any way I can
> listen to ARRL code practice on it? Do I need a SSB rig or am I just
> too far away from W1AW?

Hello from HQ!  Unfortunately, you are out of luck, unless you encounter
a really rare tropospheric duct.  At 200 watts output, W1AW covers most
of CT on 147.555, but that's about the limit of it.

Best Regards, Michael Tracy, KC1SX, ARRL Technical Information Services


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:11 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 19 Mar 1996 03:49:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4ilard$[e-mail]>
References: <4ik94t$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <4ik94t$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ken A. N
ishimura) writes:
>OK, here's a clip from the NYT -- of particular interest
>is the last paragraph -- Steve Mendelsohn is VP of ARRL.
>I, of course, am staying out of this fight :-)
>                                       ==Ken
>-----------------------------------------------------------

fair amount of errors here too...but overall not too bad of an article.
one problem with the idea that the network will replace radio is that
the network costs money to be connected, radio has just the equipment costs.

and the arrl did come out with their own limited no code proposal - wasn't the

one the fcc picked up but they had one..

and we've had a code-free ham ticket for 5+ years in the US and the sky hasn't
fallen yet...

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:30:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4in20j$[e-mail]>
References: <4ik94t$[e-mail]>

In article <4ik94t$[e-mail]>,
Ken A. Nishimura <[e-mail]> wrote:
>OK, here's a clip from the NYT -- of particular interest
>is the last paragraph -- Steve Mendelsohn is VP of ARRL.

Yes, it is interesting.  Notice he makes a fairly safe statement though.
Another way of reading it is that he believes there is a possibility that
the code requirement will be dropped by 1999.

Notice also the tone of the article, and how amateur radio is portrayed.  I
find this interesting as well.  Mostly historical perspective, but not
showing much relevance to the here and now.  I wonder if this is how most
people out there perceive amateur radio?

I actually found the second to the last paragraph more interesting - and
distressing.  He describes the Amateur Radio Relay League as "quaint",
and asks the what purpose do radio frequencies serve, in the same sentence
as "what use is Morse code".  There are certainly other ways of looking
at this, but one thing is for certain;  amateur radio will likely not
persevere in it's present form for long if the perception by the general
public is that we are a just quaint little group who wants to perform
historical reenactments of an archaic communications mode, while taking
up a huge piece of valuable spectrum.

We had better take a hard look at what some of the most successful
Washington DC groups have done to protect their interests.  The National
Association of Broadcasters might be a good archetype.  Look what the NRA
has done to increase their power - they've increased their numbers.  We
need more folks on our side - more people who know what amateur radio is
about.  Maybe the time for a written-only license is just about here.

Amateur radio isn't for everybody, but maybe we need to make it appeal to
more people than it does now.  Perhaps we need to get rid of this tape
on-the-glasses/pocket protector image we have somehow.  What other images
do ham radio operators conjure up?  Huge towers in the back yard; old
guys who never come out of their house and disrupt everybody's TV.
These are not the kinds of things that endear us to the general public.

Now I know that isn't REAL ham radio.  The people are great - it's a great
community with an enormous variety of talent and interests.  And on
average, I think we're a pretty smart bunch of guys and gals who enjoy the
outdoors and group activities, as well as late nights and rainy Saturdays
by the radio.  It's a tinkerer's hobby - for people who like to build
things, it's a social outlet for people who just like to communicate with
others, and it's a service to the public.

I believe the amateur spectrum IS a "National Park".  If there were no
preservationists, or no greater public good served by the National Park
System, we would have no such system.  The amateur RF spectrum is a kind
of natural resource that is not expendable, and which must be managed.  It
must be preserved so that it can continue to be enjoyed in perpetuity by
the people of this country.  It must not be sold to the highest bidder for
commercial enterprise, just as the National Parks should not be sold.

If we continue to be perceived in the way exemplified by this Times
article, we need to work on our public image.

73
Jim KE6JPO

<text cut>
>``The real issue,'' counters another ham, objecting to easier licensing
>requirements, ``is the lowering of standards.'' Where has the Internet
>left ham radio?
<text cut>
>But this can now seem as quaint as the idea of a ``radio relay league.''
>What use is Morse code and what purpose do radio frequencies serve
>when e-mail and chat rooms now attract even ham radio operators?
>
>In 1991, in an effort to increase interest in ham radio, there was an
>easing of licensing requirements: it is now possible to get a beginning
>license without any knowledge of Morse code. Mendelsohn believes
>that by 1999, the code may be eliminated as a requirement even for
>the most advanced level.





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 20 Mar 1996 03:56:51 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4invm3$[e-mail]>
References: <4ik94t$[e-mail]> <4in20j$[e-mail]>

> What other images
>do ham radio operators conjure up?  Huge towers in the back yard; old
>guys who never come out of their house and disrupt everybody's TV.

How about old guys who insist on demonstrating knowledge of an 1800's
communications technology (Morse Code) in order to receive an amateur
license with full privileges in 1996?

Doesn't make sense to me, either.


-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:14 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 21 Mar 1996 09:38:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4ir834$[e-mail]>
References: <4invm3$[e-mail]>

>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:
>  > What other images
>  >do ham radio operators conjure up?  Huge towers in the back yard; old
>  >guys who never come out of their house and disrupt everybody's TV.
>
>  How about old guys who insist on demonstrating knowledge of an 1800's
>  communications technology (Morse Code) in order to receive an amateur
>  license with full privileges in 1996?
>
>  Doesn't make sense to me, either.
>
>
>  -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>   KF4DDM
>
>
>>>>


ZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZ

go back to sleep Drew, it's only a dream


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:15 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (SCN User)
Subject: Auroral opening on 6 and 2 meters!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (SCN User)
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 03:39:50 GMT


This past Sunday evening there was an apparent auroral opening on 6 and 2
meters between the Puget Sound region of Washington State and prairie
provinces of Canada.  Eric KB7DQH reported weak reception of a net on
144.22 mhz originating in Alberta (?).

This occured about 7:30 pm PST.

Did anyone else have any contacts during the period of activity?

The Boulder K index was 5 to 6 during the event.

Kerwin

--
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                                     *    They know who you are...
         [e-mail]               *     They know where you live...
                                     *      And there's no doubt about it!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:16 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Bermuda Ham Activity
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:42:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4ii8e9$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I am considering a trip to Bermuda. I am a US ham. Can I operate in
Bermuda?  If so how, what limitations?
I want to operate 2m and maybe 6m.

KE4IKT



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Bermuda Ham Activity
Date: 19 Mar 1996 09:42:30 -0500
Message-ID: <4imh4m$[e-mail]>
References: <4ii8e9$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
: I am considering a trip to Bermuda. I am a US ham. Can I operate in
: Bermuda?  If so how, what limitations?
: I want to operate 2m and maybe 6m.

: KE4IKT

Write to Government of Bermuda, Department of Telecommunications,
P.O.Box HM 101
Hamilton HM AX
Bermuda

  Enclose a copy of your license and a statement of when you will
be in Bermuda and where you can be reached when there.   It's free.
If you don't do it before you are in Hamilton, look them up in the
phone book, go with your license and they will fix you up while you
wait.  Have a good trip, and give my 73's to VP9ID

Gerry K8EF/VP9



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Homingin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Championship Foxhunt in Australia this summer
Date: 14 Mar 1996 09:38:30 -0500
Message-ID: <4i9b16$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Homingin)

Planning a trip down under this summer?  Here's your chance to take part
in a world-class foxhunt on your trip.  The IARU Region 3 Amateur Radio
Direction Finding (ARDF) championships will be held in Townsville,
Australia from July 15 to 20, 1996.  Townsville is on the eastern coast of
Queensland, about 1000 miles north of Sydney.  Separate contests on
separate days will be staged on two meters and ten meters.  Each will be
an all-on-foot event with five foxes on a multi-kilometer course under
IARU rules.  Hunters from Australia, Japan, China, Korea, New Zealand,
Bulgaria, and Kazakh will be competing, and perhaps from other countries,
too.

I am working with IARU Region 2 officials to assemble a team to represent
North America (USA, Canada, and Mexico) at this event.  If you are
interested in participating, please contact me immediately.  I will put
you on a list to receive further information.

Please pass this information to other T-hunters in your area.  Time is of
essence, as travel arrangements must be begun shortly.

Joe Moell K0OV
PO Box 2508
Fullerton, CA 92633
E-mail:  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Computer power supply as HT Power supply??
Date: 15 Mar 1996 04:21:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4iar7i$[e-mail]>

Hi,

I recently dismantled an old 286 computer.  I saved the power supply, and am
wondering if there is any way that it can be used to power a HT?  I have a
Yasue Ft-530 that can handle up to 16 volts of power.

If you could help me on this or could refer me to some information, please
e-mail me.

Thanks,

John

______________________________________________________________________________
_
|John Thompson | [e-mail] | http://www.santarosa.edu/~jthompso
|
|KE6RMC        |                        | ke6rmc@kd6kwm.#nocal.ca.usa.noam
|
______________________________________________________________________________
_



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (John N0ISL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Contest style QSO's...
Date: 14 Mar 1996 00:08:23 -0500
Message-ID: <4i89k7$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (John N0ISL)

Are you tired of the " 59 tu " kind of QSO'S...  I really like to spend a
few minutes and get to know hams on the air, The DX'er the better.. It
takes only a couple of questions to get a real QSO going.. Here are some
of my favorites:

Is it difficult to get a license in your country?
If I came to your city, what should I see?
Teach me the phrase " Thank You" in your language...
What do you do? I am suprised that this queston is almost never asked...
Have you been to the USA, Minnesota?

I'd appreciate any ideas you might have... 73 de N0ISL


John Douglas, N0ISL
AX.25 N0ISL@KZ7I.#MSP.MN.USA.NOAM
I'm in Minnesota only because I must be somewhere!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jan Almedal)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Contest style QSO's...
Date: 14 Mar 1996 22:54:43 +0100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i89k7$[e-mail]>

In article <4i89k7$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (John N0ISL) wrote:
>Are you tired of the " 59 tu " kind of QSO'S...  I really like to spend a
>few minutes and get to know hams on the air, The DX'er the better.. It
>takes only a couple of questions to get a real QSO going.. Here are some
>of my favorites:
>
>Is it difficult to get a license in your country?

Some think it is. 12 wpm code for class A license.


>If I came to your city, what should I see?

What's your interests?

>Teach me the phrase " Thank You" in your language...

Takk.

>Have you been to the USA, Minnesota?

Yes/No. Three times to the US, but not to Mn except changing plane at the twin
city airport twice.

>
>I'd appreciate any ideas you might have... 73 de N0ISL
>

For contests and DX, I like the contest style QSO's! Haven't we worked? For
other, 'regular' QSO's I agree with you and also practise it. I often work
operators who have either been to (Oslo) Norway, or live in a place in US I ha
ve
visited and it sometimes end up in a really long conversation. Everyting at it
's
time!



Best 73 de
Jan / LA9HW

- - -
Contest Calendar: http://www.sn.no/~janalme/hammain.html


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jose Antonio Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQ magazine electronic index?
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:13:47 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hello!

I have read in somewhere that there is an electronic index for CQ, any
ideat about this?.

Thanks in advance, 73

--
_________________________________________________________________________
Jose Antonio Gonzalez Lorenzo -- [e-mail] -- Amateur Radio: EA2BSN
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wayne Green)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CW is the BEST
Date: 19 Mar 1996 18:04:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4imsuh$[e-mail]>

I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code
extras think about code.  The CW bands are a world of well mannered
people.   It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know
code to be there).  It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining
wont ever know.  Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE!


WG



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is the BEST
Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:51:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4in384$[e-mail]>
References: <4imsuh$[e-mail]>

In article <4imsuh$[e-mail]>,
Wayne Green <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code
>extras think about code.  The CW bands are a world of well mannered
>people.   It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know
>code to be there).  It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining
>wont ever know.  Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE!

Nice flame troll, Wayne.  It is ironic that you elected to post this
to rec.radio.amateur.misc, when rec.radio.amateur.policy is clearly
the appropriate forum.  Maybe the CW bands are full of well-mannered
people, but I'll also assert that well-mannered people don't start
out a note with "I dont really what you no-code techs or disability
waiver no-code extras think about code".

Please note the Followup-To: line.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Douglas Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is the BEST
Date: 19 Mar 1996 23:39:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4ingir$[e-mail]>
References: <4imsuh$[e-mail]> <4in384$[e-mail]>

Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4imsuh$[e-mail]>,
: Wayne Green <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code
: >extras think about code.  The CW bands are a world of well mannered
: >people.   It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know
: >code to be there).  It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining
: >wont ever know.  Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE!
:
: Nice flame troll, Wayne.  It is ironic that you elected to post this
: to rec.radio.amateur.misc, when rec.radio.amateur.policy is clearly
: the appropriate forum.  Maybe the CW bands are full of well-mannered
: people, but I'll also assert that well-mannered people don't start
: out a note with "I dont really what you no-code techs or disability
: waiver no-code extras think about code".
:
: Please note the Followup-To: line.
:
: --
:  * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
:  * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
:  * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Douglas Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is the BEST
Date: 19 Mar 1996 23:48:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4inh46$[e-mail]>
References: <4imsuh$[e-mail]> <4in384$[e-mail]>

Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4imsuh$[e-mail]>,
: Wayne Green <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code
: >extras think about code.  The CW bands are a world of well mannered
: >people.   It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know
: >code to be there).  It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining
: >wont ever know.  Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE!
:
: Nice flame troll, Wayne.  It is ironic that you elected to post this
: to rec.radio.amateur.misc, when rec.radio.amateur.policy is clearly
: the appropriate forum.  Maybe the CW bands are full of well-mannered
: people, but I'll also assert that well-mannered people don't start
: out a note with "I dont really what you no-code techs or disability
: waiver no-code extras think about code".
:
: Please note the Followup-To: line.
:
: --
:  * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
:  * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
:  * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *

A gentleman is never _unintentionally_ offensive.  Besides, he didn't say
that _he_ was a gentlman...he said that CW ops were!  I agree with that.

Doug Nelson K4JGW



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is the BEST
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:15:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4iqali$[e-mail]>
References: <4imsuh$[e-mail]>

In article <4imsuh$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Wayne Green) wrote:
>I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code
>extras think about code.  The CW bands are a world of well mannered
>people.   It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know
>code to be there).  It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining
>wont ever know.  Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE!
>
>
>WG
>

Amen, Brother!

73 de KB7ADL

Catch ya on Code.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (A.R. Duell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 20 Mar 1996 22:19:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4iq0a4$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Edward Stafford <[e-mail]> writes:

>A.R. Duell wrote:
>snip
>>
>> AFAIK there's no practical in the Radio Amateur Exam in the UK. There is
>> (I think) in the novice test, but not for the full thing. IMHO this is
>> wrong....

> If you think it is wrong why did you write it?

It's perfectly obvious what I meant. I beleive that there is no practical
test as part of the RAE in the UK, but that there is one in the novice
test. I also think that there should be a practical test as part of _any_
radio amateur exam.

> Are you trying to say that you disagree?

No, I don't disagree with my own statement. I do disagree with the policy
of no practical tests.

>What are you doing at Cambridge? Are you making a delivery?

As it happens I'm on the staff in Engineering, doing digital electronic
design.

>Are there no longer any literacy requirements for entrance?

Not as far as I know :-)

>> -tony
>> [e-mail]
>> The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill

>I've always wanted a NOT gate.

Then go out and buy a 7404. You'll have 6 of them then.


>Edward Stafford AA0QG     <[e-mail]>

--
-tony
[e-mail]
The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DX refector down?
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:41:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4imhs9$[e-mail]>
References: <4iilfa$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>Anyone know if the DX reflector is down or having problems? Traffic
>seems to be very lite to my POP server from it.

>de N5EJS
>Russ

Haven't seen anything here from the reflector since late last week.  I
looked at Lynden's web page to see if there was anyting posted
regarding a problem, but no dice.  Guess we'll just have to wait for
word from VE7TCP.


Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DX refector down?
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:59:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4imb67$[e-mail]>
References: <4iilfa$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>Anyone know if the DX reflector is down or having problems? Traffic
>seems to be very lite to my POP server from it.

I am getting about 10 - 20 messages per day. I stopped getting traffic
a few weeks ago because my Internet Provider had some e-mail problems
and bounced some e-mail. When this happens many reflectors (list
servers) will delete your subscription. I re-subscribed and started
getting reflector e-mail.
73,
Paul Ferguson
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:31 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DX refector down?
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 03:19:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4iilfa$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Anyone know if the DX reflector is down or having problems? Traffic
seems to be very lite to my POP server from it.

de N5EJS
Russ




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL?
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 03:54:56 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

On 18 Mar 96 23:23:11 GMT, [e-mail] (Roger Cole) wrote:

>Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with
a
>technical problem?  I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to
>leave a message.  Thanks....Roger
>


Short of anone having an email address just try and use "postmaster@"
in front of the URL for the webpage.

Not much help, I know, but I try.

Jerry

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:33 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:57:23 -0600
From: Paul Reedy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
To: Roger Cole <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL?
References: <[e-mail]>

Roger Cole wrote:
>
> Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with
 a
> technical problem?  I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to
> leave a message.  Thanks....Roger

Reveal was bought out by Creative Labs, try them.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:34 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:33:49 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4icjm2$[e-mail]>

WB3U wrote:
>
> The issue of whether CW tests serve as a filter to exclude undesirable
> entrants has been a subject of no small debate.  However, only HF SSB
> seems to attract delinquent operators in such large numbers.

They are delinquent because they have no supervision, or organization.
The best idea would be to have the FCC issue all licenses to a club, and
the club will issue them to individuals.  When the club gets complaints
about poor operators, they could legally revoke the license.

> Therefore, I propose that General Class and above be given all HF
> privelages, and that CW be abolished as a prerequisite to same.  I
> further propose that all HF SSB, AM, FM and other means of
> radiotelephony operation be required to be by means of homebrew
> transmitters only.

You're dreaming.  First of all, the frequencies are available because
of a population.  Your proposal would cut the population to a few
thousand, and lose authorization.  The FCC will not allow a small
segment of the population to control huge frequency blocks.  No matter
how technical that population is.

My second view, is that AM, FM, SSB, FSK etc be abolished.  At no time will
an Amateur operate on one frequency for more than 100 ms (milli-seconds).
Each band segment should be fully converted to Spread Spectrum.  An agreed
on protocol for channelization.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:35 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4icjm2$[e-mail]><[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:50:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands

You're nuts if you think that allowing all modes on all freqs
would work, because you think that those using those modes would
be kind enough to not interfere with others.  Dream on.

And, I personally don't trust CLUBS.  What gives them more
intelligence than a single person?  More of them?  I doubt it.
They exist at the lowest common denominator.  Do you really trust
them?

>
>You're dreaming.  First of all, the frequencies are available because
>of a population.  Your proposal would cut the population to a few
>thousand, and lose authorization.  The FCC will not allow a small
>segment of the population to control huge frequency blocks.  No matter
>how technical that population is.
>
>My second view, is that AM, FM, SSB, FSK etc be abolished.  At no time will
>an Amateur operate on one frequency for more than 100 ms (milli-seconds).
>Each band segment should be fully converted to Spread Spectrum.  An agreed
>on protocol for channelization.
>



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Carrubba)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: EXAM Lindenhurst, LI March 24
Date: 20 Mar 1996 12:57:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4iovb3$[e-mail]>

Lindenhurst, NY - March 24

Sunday March 24 ARRL VE NORTH LINDENHURST,LI

The Great South Bay ARC hosts ARRL amateur radio exams every 4th
Sunday at 12 noon. Exams are given from Novice to Extra class.
All exams are ARRL/VEC, CW exams are multiple choice w/ full headphones.
The examination site is in the ARES/RACES room located in the basement.
Access is at the rear of the building via stairs.  Ring RED (TOP) buzzer
for entry.

Location: Babylon Town Hall
          Emergency Operations Center
          200 E. Sunrise Hwy.
          North Lindenhurst, NY

Talk in : 146.685/r 136.5pl

Please bring the following:
- Photocopy and original of current Amateur Radio License if licensed.
- Photocopy and original of CSCE(s) that are current.
- two forms of ID, at least one photo ID.
- pens or pencils.
- Calculator for math problems on exams, no pocket computers are allowed.
- 1996 Exam fee is $6.05, please bring exact change.
  * Novice exams (elements 1A & 2) are free.

For addition information you may contact:

Tom Carrubba KA2DFO  [phone] or 422-9594
Walter Wenzel KA2RGI [phone]

--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:37 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FCC 96-07
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:40:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4ic2uj$[e-mail]>





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Kolb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: 16 Mar 1996 20:41:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4if91t$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]>

Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
: >JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
: >Telephony software ILLEGAL.

: Get a clue!  The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not
: utilize radio frequency spectrum.  They cannot "create" jurisdiction over
: something that is not within their domain.

Sorry, but it's Federal Communications Comission - they pretty much
have jurisdiction of all non government communications, including
telephone companies.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: 16 Mar 1996 04:13:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4idf5n$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo>

>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
>Telephony software ILLEGAL.

Get a clue!  The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not
utilize radio frequency spectrum.  They cannot "create" jurisdiction over
something that is not within their domain.

-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gilbert Baron)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:01:27 GMT
Message-ID: <314ad79d.9379807@199.3.25.5>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

+GDB:>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
+GDB:>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
+GDB:>Telephony software ILLEGAL.
+GDB:
+GDB:Get a clue!  The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not

+GDB:utilize radio frequency spectrum.  They cannot "create" jurisdiction over

+GDB:something that is not within their domain.
+GDB:
+GDB:-Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
+GDB: KF4DDM
+GDB:

I don't think this can or will happen either. First it is going to be
a first amendment issue and second it is not enforceable.  You are
wrong though, it is within the FCC domain. ANY communications are. The
FCC has total control over the telephone system and that includes the
parts that go by wire, they have total regulatory control over cable
television. No, if this were real it could be a serious threat. I
don't know why anyone would bother, ther is not even 1 billionth of 1
percent of the bandwidth available here that the long distance
networks have. Internet phone software is absolutely no  threat
whatsoever to the telephone companies.
_
Gil Baron W0MN [e-mail] Web http://www.isl.net/~gbaron
"Bailar es vivir" pgp2.6 key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html
"Cuatro caminos hay en mi vida. Cual de los cuatro sera el mejor"


[Posted with Agent .99d. For info, email [e-mail].]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Lee Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: 15 Mar 1996 15:26:12 -0800
Message-ID: <ljackson.826932331@kudo>



Check this out...
****************************************************************
*              GOVERNMENT THREAT TO INTERNET                   *
****************************************************************

The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
Telephony software ILLEGAL.

This is a serious threat to the Internet!  The FCC is moving
along at an astounding pace.  They have already issued a Public
Notice for comments, which are due April 8, 1996.  After this,
they will be "considering" what action to take.

The bureaucrats must be stopped NOW, before it is too late!  Let
your elected representatives know your opinions.

for more info...check out the URL:

http://www.freetel.com/fcc.htm

PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO FRIENDS AND APPROPRIATE NEWS GROUPS
***************************************************************






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:42 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 16:36:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4ih7uk$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
>>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
>>Telephony software ILLEGAL.

>Get a clue!  The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not
>utilize radio frequency spectrum.  They cannot "create" jurisdiction over
>something that is not within their domain.

Sorry but the I'net does use RF in comm satellites.  In any case,
Congress can create a jurisdiction at will, and if enough folks want
it, they will get it, and the liberal courts will find the necessary
language to uphold it.


cdn


           C. Dean Norris
      Amateur Radio Station K7NO
      e-mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:44 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: 17 Mar 1996 22:53:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4ii55a$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]> <314ad79d.9379807@199.3.25.5>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <314ad79d.9379807@199.3.25.5>, [e-mail] (Gilbert Baron) writes:
>don't know why anyone would bother, ther is not even 1 billionth of 1
>percent of the bandwidth available here that the long distance
>networks have. Internet phone software is absolutely no  threat
>whatsoever to the telephone companies.

but it's a threat to the small guys that thought they were going to knock
off AT&T, Sprint, MCI, the baby bells, etc. and are looking for a scapegoat
for their lack of performance in a crowded and thin-margin environment.
they're grasping at straws here -- from a technical standpoint, we're into the

same sort of argument that's been brought up time and time again about the
prohibition of music on amateur radio -- where you digitize the sound, run it
over packet and play it back at the far end.

it's probably "too late" in that the big guys already sell video conferencing
software tools that run over networked computers...they probably don't mind
an effort to restrict competition but they won't let such a silly ruling cut i
nto
a potentially lucrative market (one of the things on the list for new computer
s
is to try to get enough computer such that adding video conferencing will be
doable with a PC bought this year - yes, i know, everyone else but the intel
guys had it first and all that...it's what the boss' boss' boss' boss wants to
 see..
so who am i to argue?)

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: 18 Mar 1996 11:14:20 -0500
Message-ID: <4ik24s$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]>

In article <4idf5n$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
>>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
>>Telephony software ILLEGAL.
>
>Get a clue!  The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not
>utilize radio frequency spectrum.  They cannot "create" jurisdiction over
>something that is not within their domain.

Woops.. get a clue yourself. The FCC does indeed have some jurisdiction over
the internet since alot of the traffic goes across common carrier lines.


Tony


--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
== [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (john d benson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC-Out of Control??? Please Read
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 00:23:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4i7skv$[e-mail]>
References: <4i34k7$[e-mail]> <4i48hk$[e-mail]>


>Ridiculous.

Yes, it is....


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:46 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:43:35 GMT

In article <4i0tal$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () write
s:
>
>  To me, mastering the code is a challenge that I welcome.

That's fine, and no one is saying you shouldn't have the right to
master Morse if you wish, in order to satisfy some personal sense
of challenge.

>  I think it is a skill that binds amateurs together as
>  a fraternity and not merely as a bunch of technicians.

This is where you go astray. The government is not operating a
fraternity. The purpose of licensing exams is not to serve as
a fraternity initiation. Would you think it proper if to attend
a State (tax) supported university you were required to join a
fraternity as a condition of attending class?

That's the problem you get when you attempt to mix institutional
roles. The purpose of amateur exams is to satisfy legitimate
government concerns about applicants wishing to operate in the
regulated spectrum. Internal amateur social concerns should play
no part in that.

That brings us to the crucial question, what legitimate government
concern does a Morse speed exam address today?   At one time,
interoperability with life safety services was the concern, but
that has become moot with the abandonment of Morse by the life
safety services, IE Coast Guard. So what legitimate regulatory
purpose continues to exist to require a Morse speed exam? If
you can't answer that, then the Morse speed exam should be
deleted. It is not legitimate for the government to impose
arbitrary requirements for internal amateur social purposes.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:48 1996
From: [e-mail](Bry AF4K)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:28:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4ieflk$[e-mail]>
References: <4i7gq2$[e-mail]>

On Mar 13, 1996 22:04:50 in article <Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good
idea???>, '[e-mail] ()' wrote:


Hello Shane. Man, you Canadians are intelligent!
THIS is simply the BEST argument I have read yet in the 3-4 years I have
followed the silly
yapping about code vs. no-code etc. here and on FIDO's amateur radio echo.

Congratulations on a brilliantly thought out analogy and one of the best
appeals for
tolerance I have seen. The anti-code loonies can hang up their six guns
now!

73 and see you on the air for an enjoyable morse CW rag-chew QSO in the
near future!

G3XLQ / AF4K

>To me all the fighting to avoid learning cw to gain access to HF
priveleges
>reminds me of a documentary I saw on PBS.  It was about a competition
>where a man alone sails around the world in a wind-powered vessel, racing
>other men alone for the best finishing time. (Also women, almost forgot!)
>To complete the competition requires stamina, bravery, luck, and most
>importantly knowledge and skill.
>
>Obviously, the requirement to play the game is that you must use a sailing

>vessel only.  You must also possess proven sailing skills.
>
>But why bother?  Sailing skills are obsolete.  Sailing vessels are
>obsolete.  Isn't it unfair to bar those who want to enter, using diesel
>yachts, from the competition?  If you want to enter using a modern diesel
>yacht, isn't it unfair and archaic to demand that you must possess
>sailing skills?  Hell, you're faster.  You can beat those antique
windships
>any day of the week.  Ergo, sailing vessels and skills - worthless.
>
>I think that what is misunderstood is that while some things, like cw, may

>be obsolescent in one sense, they are vital and very viable in another.
>These skills still have merit and need to be encouraged and protected.
>If the morse requirement is removed, a language will be lost.  If you
>never have to learn it, you will never use it.  If you must learn it,
>you will then be able to make an enlightened and informed choice.
>
>In Canada, the morse requirement is only 12 wpm for the advanced
>qualification.  It gives you full access to HF at full power. The
>morse qualification is probably less difficult to attain for some than
>grasping the advanced technical theory.  For others, with post-secondary
>telecommunications or electronics training, the technical exam is easy
>to pass, but attaining the 12 wpm code level takes a little effort.
>
>Maybe that's the problem. The effort.
>
>Shane
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC
[e-mail]
Keep in touch!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:49 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:45:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9t08$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]> <4i1ku0$[e-mail]> <4i9h1m$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Tom Randolph) wrote:
>
>In article <4i1ku0$[e-mail]>, Jim Cummings <[e-mail]
c.ca> writes...
>>What is most distressing is that most of the QRP adherents themselves not
>>only seem to be content in using CW exclusively for their communications,
>>but have little inclination to investigate other modes which would be an
>>improvement over CW.
>
>Jim, we've gone round and round and round on this before. The plain fact is,
>many if not most QRP enthusiasts do it for the sheer simplicity of it. There'
s
>many reasons folks get into QRP, few of them have anything to do with pushing
>the state of the art. Cost of equipment, simplicity of equipment, small
>size/weight/current drain, low-stress operating, ease of construction and
>repair with simple test equipment are a few of the reasons. Having to drag a
>computer along puts a MAJOR cramp in most of these!
>

>A ham friend here at work is getting into QRP now. He wants a small, light,
>low-current-drain rig to take on camp-outs. He just wants to have fun and mak
e
>a few contacts from the family tent. I don't think sending high speed data to
>stations in South America that he can't even hear is on the top of his list.
>You want to do that, go right ahead, have fun, let us know how you do. We'll
>be on 40m CW.
>

But you are quite right -- each to his own.  Far be it from me to
discourage or disparage any one who wishes to use Backpack CW QRP.

On the other hand, what are QRPers doing in the meantime?  I hardly
expect that backpack QRP is taking up the majority of their operating
time.  It makes for quite a novelty, but that hardly justifies the
continued dependence on just using CW communications when there are so
many other modes that can be used, particularly when the operating
eminates at home, rather than in the boonies.

For that matter, what is wrong with we QRPers that we lack so much in
imagination that digital communications isn't considered on these little
adventures -- consider that my clunky little Model 200 does a nifty job
with a Kam when backpacking.  In contradiction to your point, I don't
think that it is so much of a lack of technical capabilities, because
they do indeed exist, but one of imagination.  It would seem that instead
of investigating the possiblities, they are rejected out of hand before
they are even tried.


>=============================================================================
=
>Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
m
>=============================================================================
=


73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:51 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 13 Mar 1996 22:04:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4i7gq2$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]> <4i1shi$[e-mail]>

--I won't include the follow-up messages to my reply.  Begging your
  indulgence however, I will use another analogy.

  To me all the fighting to avoid learning cw to gain access to HF priveleges
  reminds me of a documentary I saw on PBS.  It was about a competition
  where a man alone sails around the world in a wind-powered vessel, racing
  other men alone for the best finishing time. (Also women, almost forgot!)
  To complete the competition requires stamina, bravery, luck, and most
  importantly knowledge and skill.

  Obviously, the requirement to play the game is that you must use a sailing
  vessel only.  You must also possess proven sailing skills.

  But why bother?  Sailing skills are obsolete.  Sailing vessels are
  obsolete.  Isn't it unfair to bar those who want to enter, using diesel
  yachts, from the competition?  If you want to enter using a modern diesel
  yacht, isn't it unfair and archaic to demand that you must possess
  sailing skills?  Hell, you're faster.  You can beat those antique windships
  any day of the week.  Ergo, sailing vessels and skills - worthless.

  I think that what is misunderstood is that while some things, like cw, may
  be obsolescent in one sense, they are vital and very viable in another.
  These skills still have merit and need to be encouraged and protected.
  If the morse requirement is removed, a language will be lost.  If you
  never have to learn it, you will never use it.  If you must learn it,
  you will then be able to make an enlightened and informed choice.

  In Canada, the morse requirement is only 12 wpm for the advanced
  qualification.  It gives you full access to HF at full power. The
  morse qualification is probably less difficult to attain for some than
  grasping the advanced technical theory.  For others, with post-secondary
  telecommunications or electronics training, the technical exam is easy
  to pass, but attaining the 12 wpm code level takes a little effort.

  Maybe that's the problem. The effort.

  Shane












From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 14 Mar 1996 00:02:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4i7nmi$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]> <4i1shi$[e-mail]> <4i7gq2$[e-mail]>

In article <4i7gq2$[e-mail]>,
 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>--I won't include the follow-up messages to my reply.  Begging your
>  indulgence however, I will use another analogy.
>
>  To me all the fighting to avoid learning cw to gain access to HF priveleges
>  reminds me of a documentary I saw on PBS.

This sentence strongly suggests a prejudice - you seem to think that
all the fuss over the CW requirement is being made by people that want
to avoid learning CW.

Believe it or not, there are people that want to eliminate or replace
the CW requirements because we think the requirement is no longer
of significant value to the licensing process.  Look up my callsign
and check the license class; you'll see that I have nothing to gain
by eliminating the CW requirement.  Then, look up Phil Karn (KA9Q),
Gary Coffman (KE4ZV), ...

...

>  Maybe that's the problem. The effort.

No, that's demonstrably not the problem.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 19 Mar 1996 17:43:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4imror$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <4i9h1m$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Jon Van Allen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>It's sad to watch amateur radio kill itself with these
>petty arguments whose energy could better be used to save
>the hobby from the highest bidder, and it will happen.

Don't overlook the point of view that a fixation on the
CW requirement may be contributing to putting the amateur
frequencies on the auction block.  Some folks don't think
the discussion is "petty argument" - some folks think it is
energy spent saving the _service_ from the highest bidder.
Food for thought.

>Those of us who work as Radio Officers aboard ships laugh
>because you guys just don't get it. I see those who think
>that cw is hopelessly outdated, who think those of us who
>like using cw never use other advanced modes, all kinds of
>ridiculous and irrelevent arguments.

Those of use who work in professional data communications
laugh because you guys just don't get it ;-).  Be careful
about suggesting that only the folks that want to remove or
replace the CW requirements are guilty of using ridiculous
or irrelevant arguments.

>You can't argue cw has saved lives. I can give you
>countless examples, and yes recent ones like the Achille
>Lauro sinking.

So what?  You can't argue about phone saving lives.  While it
is probably impossible to count the actual number of heads,
I'd speculate that voice communication has saved *far more*
lives that CW communication.  Before you refute this, consider
that public service agencies almost exclusively use FM voice,
air traffic control uses AM voice, and cellular telephones
are FM voice.  If "it saves lives" is a compelling argument
for requiring knowledge of a communication mode, then the mode
that should be required is voice.

...

>So quit the whining, it's giving the FCC and Congress the
>nails they are hammering into the ham radio coffin. You
>can't hear the pounding? Better quit whining then and
>listen and put your efforts into saving it before it gets
>buried by the highest bidder.

Oops, there's the whining word (sigh).  When I hear the whining
word, it makes be believe the speaker doesn't have a cerebral
argument and must turn to a personally insulting tone.  C'mon,
you can do better - I hope.

Please note the Followup-To: line.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:54 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 19 Mar 1996 22:10:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4inbde$[e-mail]>
References: <4imror$[e-mail]>


>  Don't overlook the point of view that a fixation on the
>  CW requirement may be contributing to putting the amateur
>  frequencies on the auction block.  Some folks don't think
>  the discussion is "petty argument" - some folks think it is
>  energy spent saving the _service_ from the highest bidder.
>  Food for thought.


HUH????  CW and the selling of HF frequencies???  what business in it's right
or wrong
mind would spend big $$$'s on radio spectrum that acts as finicky as Morris th
e cat and
behaves as well as a 2 year old.

VHF/UHF maybe yes.  In that case, CW or the morse code requirements aren't gon
na matter
one way or another.

Let's keep this in perspective.  Those who want to eliminate the morse require
ments are nothing
more than closet DX'ers.  no more no less.

I can see it now...the olympic winter games video feed transmitted along 75 me
ters...what clarity..
what fidelity...NOT

KNOW CODE or NO CODE   who cares

steve  - - . . .   . . . - -


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:40:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4in2ij$[e-mail]>
References: <4imud8$[e-mail]>

In article <4imud8$[e-mail]>,
Wayne Green <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jim Cummings ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: [e-mail] (Jon Van Allen) wrote:
>
>: >So you ask, what's that got to do with ham radio and cw?
>: >Plenty, I won't go backpacking without my HW-9, all the
>: >digital modes in the world, ht's and whatever can't call
>: >for help when they're out of range.
>
>: than optimal antennae.  Therefore, it is amazing that amateurs would not
>: consider using digital techniques which would over come these handicaps.
>
>like maybe carrying a laptop, a multi-mode controller, and a synthesized
>100 watt radio, maybe a 400 AH lead acid battery?
>I'll prefer the HW-9 and two wires to rub together to send CW.

I suppose you can paint any picture you want to point out the
advantages and disadvantages for each communication mode.  Suggesting
that the only way non-CW digital communications can be done is with
"a laptop, a multimode controller, and a synthesized 100 watt
radio, maybe a 400AH lead acid battery" is putting a decided spin
on the facts.  The fact is, a slightly modified HW-9 with a palmtop
computer (i.e., an HP 200, the size of a calculator) is closer
to the "HW-9 and two wires" scenario.

>:  One uses what one has at hand, but to refuse to use an available
>: and better technique is very questionable.
>
>but you need to address additional issues such as cost, weight, power
>consumption!

This is true, but don't automatically jump to the conclusion that the
simplest configuration is always the best configuration.  The most
effective communications take place when one plans ahead, and, when
one plans ahead, the selection of equipment and mode is considerably
more flexible.  You can ask the question "What will work best?" rather
than "what will work at all?".

Please note the Followup-To: line.
--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:50:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4iokmc$[e-mail]>
References: <4imud8$[e-mail]> <4in2ij$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:

>The most effective communications take place when one plans ahead,

Which is exactly why anyone who doesn't want to learn the code should
buy a cell phone instead of taking an Amateur Radio exam.  ;)

73,
Jack  WB3U




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:05:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 14 MAR 96 10:53:05
Message-ID: <4i9h1m$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]> <4i1ku0$[e-mail]>


In article <4i1ku0$[e-mail]>, Jim Cummings <[e-mail]
.ca> writes...
>What is most distressing is that most of the QRP adherents themselves not
>only seem to be content in using CW exclusively for their communications,
>but have little inclination to investigate other modes which would be an
>improvement over CW.

Jim, we've gone round and round and round on this before. The plain fact is,
many if not most QRP enthusiasts do it for the sheer simplicity of it. There's
many reasons folks get into QRP, few of them have anything to do with pushing
the state of the art. Cost of equipment, simplicity of equipment, small
size/weight/current drain, low-stress operating, ease of construction and
repair with simple test equipment are a few of the reasons. Having to drag a
computer along puts a MAJOR cramp in most of these!

A ham friend here at work is getting into QRP now. He wants a small, light,
low-current-drain rig to take on camp-outs. He just wants to have fun and make
a few contacts from the family tent. I don't think sending high speed data to
stations in South America that he can't even hear is on the top of his list.
You want to do that, go right ahead, have fun, let us know how you do. We'll
be on 40m CW.

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Homebrew)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 20 Mar 1996 14:41:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4ip5ep$[e-mail]>

Michael T. Hodgson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: jon, I am working diligently to pass my code, having just completed my
: novice and technician testing....its tough and something that i have been
: putting off for 19 years due to the code..I already have an FCC commercial
: license now grandfathered into NABER but come on man....part of the reason
: that HAM radio is dying is because of the code..not just because of those

This is not true.  Amateur radio population is going up.


: that are whining about it....I will give you that CW does work undeniably
: but for example when I went and took my code there were three VEC testers
: and two guys taking the tests...thats all....for three guys to give up
: their saturday morning just to get 2 new guys into HAM radio..Heck they
: seemed delighted to see people taking the tests...

Maybe I should cancel the VE tests I give if there are less test
applicants than VE's present.  That would go over good.  Did it ever
occur to you that these guys are volunteering their Saturday mornings to
help the overall Amateur Radio Community?  You are really missing the
point here, buddy!


.look thru the hamcall
: lists there are tons of folks out there with no more than the tech calls
: and compared to 20 years ago when I started listening to the 80-40-20
: bands the airways are clean Know why?? there are few new hams...wonder why?

The bands are quiet for the most part due to the lack of sunspot
activity.  Give a listen during a contest sometime, or perhaps during
Field Day.  Ever listen to the lower part of 80, 40, 20?  There is quite
a bit of DX activity going on there.  When propagation permits it, there
is always a lot of activity!  You want to hear dead, listen to the 2 meter
SSB and CW segments!  (you mean 2 meters is more than FM?!! :-)

: Opinions expressed herein are my own and do not in any way
: represent those of my employer.

or the rest of us!

--
- - + + +     + + + - -     Len

(oh, for those that dont know code, that is 73 Len)



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jon Van Allen)
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]> <4i1ku0$[e-mail]> <4i9h1m$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:46:47 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

It's sad to watch amateur radio kill itself with these
petty arguments whose energy could better be used to save
the hobby from the highest bidder, and it will happen.

Those of us who work as Radio Officers aboard ships laugh
because you guys just don't get it. I see those who think
that cw is hopelessly outdated, who think those of us who
like using cw never use other advanced modes, all kinds of
ridiculous and irrelevent arguments.

You can't argue cw has saved lives. I can give you
countless examples, and yes recent ones like the Achille
Lauro sinking. And save me the yiping about the Coast Guard
discontinuing it, "Good riddance" is what we said to the
coasties, there are plenty of commercial stations that
still operate. Ships still use code boys and girls, for
good reason. Listen to 500 khz, it's alive and well. When
those digital modes and computers fail without ac power,
good old charlie whiskey works EVERY time. I use the latest
digital modes guys, including some you don't know about
like a proprietary clover mode for HF telex. I can program
in C with the best of 'em, so save me the high tech jargon
as reasons to kill cw.

So you ask, what's that got to do with ham radio and cw?
Plenty, I won't go backpacking without my HW-9, all the
digital modes in the world, ht's and whatever can't call
for help when they're out of range.

So quit the whining, it's giving the FCC and Congress the
nails they are hammering into the ham radio coffin. You
can't hear the pounding? Better quit whining then and
listen and put your efforts into saving it before it gets
buried by the highest bidder.

73, Jon KF7YN


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:01 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 20 Mar 1996 14:33:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4ip509$[e-mail]>
References: <4imud8$[e-mail]> <4in2ij$[e-mail]> <4iokmc$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (WB3U) wrote:
>   [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:
>
>>The most effective communications take place when one plans ahead,
>
>Which is exactly why anyone who doesn't want to learn the code should
>buy a cell phone instead of taking an Amateur Radio exam.  ;)
>
>73,
>Jack  WB3U
>
>

Why?

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:03 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 21 Mar 1996 03:06:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4iqh3f$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]> <4i1ku0$[e-mail]> <4i9h1m$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jon Van Allen) writes:
>It's sad to watch amateur radio kill itself with these
>petty arguments whose energy could better be used to save
>the hobby from the highest bidder, and it will happen.

that's part of why it was important to get a code free ticket in place when we
did.  1991, y'know.

>Those of us who work as Radio Officers aboard ships laugh
>because you guys just don't get it. I see those who think
>that cw is hopelessly outdated, who think those of us who
>like using cw never use other advanced modes, all kinds of
>ridiculous and irrelevent arguments.

well...then why will the martime services be moving everyone to GMDSS in the
very near future?

>coasties, there are plenty of commercial stations that
>still operate. Ships still use code boys and girls, for

for now. ships also have satcom and conventional operating modes as well
(it's been a couple of years since i was up there, but i don't recall operator
s
at KHT running code...)

>good reason. Listen to 500 khz, it's alive and well. When
>those digital modes and computers fail without ac power,
>good old charlie whiskey works EVERY time. I use the latest

without power? that ac runs the ships radio's regardless of mode...

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:03 1996
From: Dave Bremer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FR-146 FM Receiver Kit
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:20:55 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

My partner and I are using the Ramsey FR-146 2-Meter FM receiver kit to
receive data broadcast at a frequency of 155.445 MHz.  The data is sent
with a 6 second delay between each new message.  We are having trouble
squelching out the noise during the 6 second delay period.  The squelch
seems to either cut out nothing or it cuts out everything including the
data being broadcast.  If anyone has any information regarding this kit
or where we could receive help, we would appreciate hearing about it.
Please e-mail any comments or suggestions.

Thanks.

Dave Bremer
St. Cloud State University
Electrical Engineering
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FREE Ham Classifides-->http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html
Date: 13 Mar 1996 20:28:34 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

The Raymond Sarrio Company's Ham Radio WWW site is proud to announce a
FREE Ham Radio classified advertising page at
http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html. This new classified section will include
Hams to search for equipement with the help of a search engine--no need to
scroll through 100's of listing before you find that special piece of
gear. Plus, when you find the gear your interested in, each listing comes
with point-and-click e-mail access direct to the Ham that listed the item.


For those Hams with gear to sell, take note! It is absolutely FREE to list
your equipment within Ham Classifieds, and there will be no posting time
delays.  Your posting will go on-line, in our classified search engine,
immediately. All you need do is fill out a simple forms page, and upon its
(point-and-click) submission, your "For Sale" advertisement is on-line
within 1 hour. I will be purging the classified listing initially about
once every month, but that timeline will shorten as our classified numbers
go up. Give it a try, and let me know how you like it. 73's Ray
--
The Raymond Sarrio Co. a full feature Ham Radio Storefront on tth WWW at http:
//www.csz.com/sarrio in association with Brillar Enterprises http://win-win.co
m/brillar an Extensive Discount CD-Rom Catalog!



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (RULLMANR)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS, TEK 7044 Plug-In Power Supply
Date: 17 Mar 1996 14:08:38 -0500
Message-ID: <4ihnvm$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (RULLMANR)

Rare find, not many made.  Plug-In power supply cabinet for 4 TEK 7000
Series Plug-In's.  Includes 2   1-1/4" X 3" CRT's for readout of knob
settings, etc.  Bottom cover missing, untested.  $325.
rec.radio.swap
sci.electronics.equipment
sci.electronics.misc
sci.electronics.design
sci electronics.cad
sci.electronics.components


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:06 1996
From: Jason Reighard <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT 901 DE and phone patch for sale
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 00:37:51 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

For Sale Yaesu FT-901DE HF RIG
Optional FM board installed
Optional CW filter installed
INCLUDES Phone patch SP-901P
Runs off 110v AC.

Covers:
160, 80, 40, 20, 15, 10 Meters.
And RX on WWV (15 MHZ)

CW Auto keyer needs repaired, but Straight key can be used

$460.00

I can be reached at (614)-537-4875
or via internet mail, [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:07 1996
From: Rick <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT530 mods wanted
Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:52:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4ihjh9$[e-mail]>
References: <4iaff5$[e-mail]>
To: Mike

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Hello Mike did you find any mods for the FT530, if so could you send me a copy

please.....Thank........Rick

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Parkin)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT530 mods wanted
Date: 15 Mar 1996 01:00:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microcomputer Corporation
Message-ID: <4iaff5$[e-mail]>

Where can I get FT530 mods?
Thanks, Mike



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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:08 1996
From: Rick <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT530 mods wanted
Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:52:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4ihjg1$[e-mail]>
References: <4iaff5$[e-mail]>
To: Mike

Hello Mike did you find any mods for the FT530, if so could you send me a copy

please.....Thank........Rick



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:09 1996
From: Rick <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT530 mods wanted
Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:59:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4ihjuq$[e-mail]>
References: <4iaff5$[e-mail]>
To: Mike

Hello Mike did you recieve any replies to your posting ? I just bought a FT530
 myself.....If
you find any MODS could you pass them on.  Thanks...Mike.........Rick.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:10 1996
From: Rick <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT530 mods wanted
Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:49:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4ihjbi$[e-mail]>
References: <4iaff5$[e-mail]>
To: Mike

Did you find any mods for the Ft530 ?  If you did would you send me a copy ple
ase. Thanks
Rick.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael Parkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT530 mods wanted
Date: 15 Mar 1996 01:00:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4iaff5$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Where can I get FT530 mods?
Thanks, Mike




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:11 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAARP on Ham Radio & More Show
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:56:48 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i1fhs$[e-mail]> <4i4lls$[e-mail]>

Ed Hare <[e-mail]> writes:

>>Support "WOG". Written only General!!!

Well, the colleges are giving courses that everyone gets an "A" no matter
what. There are track races in which all entered get a blue ribbon.Mightas
well let ham radio sink into the ooze too. Hey, let's just give everyone
a free radio that gets a license. And a house to put it in. And let's all
mov e to Bulgaria.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:12 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
From: [e-mail] (Walter Scott)
Subject: HAL Morse Keyboard ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:07:59 GMT


In 1973, HAL Communications Corp. sold an MKB-1 Morse Keyboard and a
KB-ID1 Keyboard Identifier.  Does anyone remember these devices?

After building them from kits, they worked well.  Recently I tried to
change the call sign in the Identifier without success.  There appears
to be a race problem in the design.

Does anyone remember these devices?  -The problem that makes the Identifier
pattern sensitive?  -A fix?

73,
  Scott
    KI6KW



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas McLarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham radio at the Olympic Games
Date: 19 Mar 1996 21:04:46 -0800
Message-ID: <4io3le$[e-mail]>
References: <4im8hl$[e-mail]> <4in2uh$[e-mail]>

Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hey, I appreciate this, I really do.  I just happen to think that selectivel
y
: excluding certain kinds of radios, if that is indeed being done, tends
: to undermine the validity of this argument.  If amateurs are told not
: to carry handie-talkies, but non-amateurs are permitted to carry
: cellular telephones, I really have to question the "logic" behind
: the decision.

There's less chance of interference between 150 MHz and 850 MHz than
there is between 148 MHz and 150 MHz.  I've been in situations where a
whole mass of radios, some 800 MHz trunking, some hams, some 150-155 MHz
public service, and a few other radios.  The most common interference
came on the radios operating 140-160 MHz.  Of course, some of this may be
the radios' receivers, but there tends to be more interference from
radios running on closer frequencies.  Besides that, cellular phones
strangely enough are very narrow-banded.  I can get one to start
transmitting and not get any interference 100 kHz either side of the
actual transmitting frequency.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Texas 882nd AFJROTC Group: San Antonio, TX

Amateur Radio Operator - KC5IUZ
Official Emergency Station - South Texas Section, ARRL
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (A.R. Duell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Ham radio in UK
Date: 19 Mar 1996 14:45:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4imhaa$[e-mail]>
References: <4imdgl$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (anonymous) writes:

> I'm interested in the radio ham aspect but can anyone tell me the details of

> the class1 and class2 test that you have to undertake in order to get
> the licence.

I've cross-posted this to uk.radio.amateur - the rec.radio.amateur.misc
group, while appropriate, is worldwide, and I suspect that the UK-only
group may produce a more helpful response.

As I understand it, there are 2 classes of UK amateur radio license, not
counting the novice licenses, which I know nothing about :

Class B: You need to pass a multiple-choice exam. This is currently 2
papers, but will be replaced by a single longer paper fairly soon, I
think. The questions cover radio theory, interference and how to
eliminate it, operating practices, and the licensing conditions. The
class B license allows you to use all modes (I think - there used to be a
restriction about morse code, but I think that's been removed) on all
amateur radio bands above 50MHz.

Class A : You need to pass the same multiple choice exam (or hold a Class
B license, I guess) and pass a morse code test. You have to send and
receive morse code manually at a set speed and making less than a certain
number of mistakes. This license allows you to everything a class B
licensee can do _and_ use the HF bands (1.6MHz - 30MHz, I think).

A question for others : After the change in the exam, will class B
licensees who then pass the morse test be granted a class A license, or
will they have to take the new written exam as well ?


>Can you also recommend a really good book or source which could tell me about

The books that got me through the Radio Amateurs exam were published by
the RSGB (Radio Society of Great Britain) - I can't remember the titles,
but 'How to pass the RAE' rings some bells. There's also a book of sample
questions that's worth going through.

The RSGB also produce other more general books on amateur radio. The
Radio Communication Handbook and the VHF/UHF handbook are both worth
reading, although they're a little out of date (I have nothing against
valves, but a few designs using IC-based synthesisers would be nice).

Can anyone recomend a book on getting started with operation, though?
I've some old PMR stuff that I can get onto 2m or 70cm quite easily, but
I'd like to know the correct protocol for using it when I finally get it
working.

> the various codes and call signs and general protocol involving ham
>radio. Is ham radio able to be connected to the internet via computer.?

The UK license only allows messages to be passed between licensed
amateurs, so you can't (legally) send and receive internet e-mail AFAIK.
There's packet radio, but I don't think there are any gateways between it
and the internet.

>Thanks.

--
-tony
[e-mail]
The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:16 1996
From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Ham radio in UK
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:56:22 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4imdgl$[e-mail]> <4imhaa$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4imhaa$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "A.R. Duell" writes:

> The UK license only allows messages to be passed between licensed
> amateurs, so you can't (legally) send and receive internet e-mail AFAIK.
> There's packet radio, but I don't think there are any gateways between it
> and the internet.

There are a number of gateways in the USA which allow licensed UK amateurs
to send email to packet radio addresses and to receive the packet replies
via email.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (anonymous)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham radio in UK
Date: 19 Mar 1996 13:40:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4imdgl$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I'm interested in the radio ham aspect but can anyone tell me the details of t
he class1 and class2 test that you have to undertake in order to get the licen
ce.

Can you also recommend a really good book or source which could tell me about
the various codes and call signs and general protocol involving ham radio. Is
ham radio able to be connected to the internet via computer.?
Thanks.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (JCHol)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Online March 11th, 1996
Date: 15 Mar 1996 19:41:11 -0500
Message-ID: <4id2n7$[e-mail]>
References: <4hvrho$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (JCHol)

I have visited the site twice. Really enjoyed the article about launching
wires into trees.  Keep up the good work.

73 de John, WA5TWL


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:18 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAM RADIO SWAP-FEST IN ALGOOD,TENNESSEE
Date: 19 Mar 1996 01:39:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4il38o$[e-mail]>

There will be a Ham Radio Swap-Fest April 27,1996 starting at 8:00 AM
CST time in the parking lot of the Algood School in Algood,Tennessee.
NO CHARGE too setup or enter the swap-fest Everyone Welcome Talkin
Frequency is 145.110 -600 for more information send email too Bobby
Raymer AD4HL at [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: hamcom interface info
Date: 12 Mar 1996 12:55:54 -0800
Message-ID: <4i4ocq$[e-mail]>


Hi, I'm looking at the hamcom data slicer interface and would like
to use it in a program of my own design.  Besides the obvious
of polling the data out, what other considerations have to be
made about setting the com port's i/o lines?

I know the op amp is powered by the serial port, so do I have to set
the serial port up in any particular way to power the device?  Do
I have to continually toggle the RTS?

Any info would be helpfull, thanx,

Kev



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HamDaze at Arizona Science Center
Date: 17 Mar 1996 15:41:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4ii4du$[e-mail]>

                              Special Event Information

HamDaze at Arizona Science Center:  The Center for Amateur Radio Learning (C.A
.R.L.)
will be hosting HamDaze Weekend March 23-24,  Several  Phoenix area radio club
s will
be setting up hands-on demonstrations and exhibits. Amateur Television, an HF
station
and a two way laser communications device will be just some of the attractions
 at the
event. A test session will be available for the No-Code Technician  License at
 10:00 a.m.
on Saturday March 23. KC7LUL will be on the air in the phone portion of the no
vice
10 meter band, and general 15 and 20 meter bands. For a certificate send a QSL
 and
9" x 12" SASE to C.A.R.L. P.O. Box 51048 Phoenix, AZ 85076-1048. Visitors to A
SC will
be able to make radio contacts under the supervision of  licensed volunteer op
erators.
The Arizona Science Center is located at 147 E. Adams. The hours are Saturday
9 - 5:00pm
and Sunday 12 - 5:00.  Adults $4.50, Seniors and 4-12 yrs old $3.50, 3yrs and
less are
free.  For details call 561-8405.





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Blaster)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAMFEST IN SHAKOPEE,MN  -  sma96.txt [1/1]
Date: 19 Mar 1996 21:13:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4in821$[e-mail]>

The SouthWest Metro Amateur Radio Transmitting Society is pleased to present S
MARTSFEST 96

to be held Saturday,April 27 at Canterbury Downs in beautiful Shakopee Minneso
ta.

Smartsfest 96, Minnesotas most affordable Hamfest features low admission price
s,door prizes, numerous club activities, SMARTS CHALLENGE, and absoutely FREE
PARKING. One ticket price covers EVERYTHING!

Tickets this year are $3 in advance and $5 at the door. Kids under 14 are free
.Advance tickets availible at all the useual places ,through select club funct
ions or by calling mike N0zxg at 445-0460

Doors open at 8 am and the fest runs to 2 pm

For table availibility and prices, contact Tim WD0ENG at 474-9232
or Dave N0TLA at 445-8071

Talk-in or further information is aslo available on the Carver repeater at
147.165 mhz.+


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:22 1996
From: "Lorelei Lindenaux (SAR)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HeathKit HP 24
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:25:07 -0500
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960314202013.20197C-100000@virtu>


My dad is looking for: Heathkit HP24 AC Power Supply with or without the HA14
Amplifier.  You may call him at 1-813-842-4818.  New Port Richey, Florida.
            Maurice  W4NHP

  Or you may e-mail me direct, and I will have him call you.


               e-mail [e-mail]

                         Thanks,   Lorelei


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (james weber)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:58:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4i6v26$[e-mail]>

I am looking to buy my son a radio. A friend has a old Yeasu FT-101ex,
and I saw a ad for a FT 840. Which is the better radio and why?
Thank you for your time and help. :)



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Darren Hatcher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Help: Ten Tec Argosy schematic/docs
Date: 14 Mar 1996 09:51:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4i8q6o$[e-mail]>

Hi All,

I've just become an owner of a Ten Tec Argosy and don't have much in the way
of documentation for it. I've had no joy net-searching so far, so ...
has anyone got a user manual, schematic or modification info to share???
Postage, etc, would be re-embursed.


Thanks in advance for any info,

Darren Hatcher
G0WCW
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Len Revelle)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Help: Ten Tec Argosy schematic/docs
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 01:22:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4id5gl$[e-mail]>
References: <4i8q6o$[e-mail]>

Ten-Tec probably has manuals, if not they will send a photocopy, at a
reasonable cost. I think I only paid a few bucks for a good Argo 509
copy.
[e-mail] (Darren Hatcher) wrote:

>Hi All,

>I've just become an owner of a Ten Tec Argosy and don't have much in the way
>of documentation for it. I've had no joy net-searching so far, so ...
>has anyone got a user manual, schematic or modification info to share???
>Postage, etc, would be re-embursed.


>Thanks in advance for any info,

>Darren Hatcher
>G0WCW
>[e-mail]





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:27 1996
From: Isaac Kohn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equpiment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: HF, multiband antenna, etc. for beginner -- PLEASE HELP!
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:00:51 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Greetings all,
I am new to the world of ham radio (don't even have my license yet), and
I'm working on setting up a station.  I'm gonna need an antenna to work
at least the entire HF range, and maybe thru 2m.  I live on the second
floor of a 2-flat, and space outside is limited...  I've been figuring
I'd put up a loop around my ceiling (approx. 12'x12') or on one wall
(similar dimensions), use a transmatch, and hope for the best. Maybe
someone out there has a better idea... It would be convenient if there
were a way I could wire something up in my room or (for lower
frequencies) outside my window... It may not be practical to raise
anything up above the top of the building -- will this affect
propagation in the HF range??  I _may_ be able to find a way to set up a
horizontal dipole that is supported a few inches above the edge of the
roof, so that obstructions are less of a problem.  Anyone have any
suggestions??  Also, I will need plans for a versatile, INEXPENSIVE
Transmatch.  I can probably tolerate somewhat high levels of SWR, if it
will reduce design cost.  Is it feasible to wire several toroid-core
broadband transformers, and switch them in and out appropriately for
each band?? I'd like not to have to retune the antenna every time I
switch bands, and if I could have a knob that did that it would be quite
nice.......   PLEASE RESPOND (pref. by E-mail or E-mail+post) IF YOU CAN
ANSWER ANY OF MY IGNORANT QUESTIONS!!! Thanks a lot everybody.

73's
Isaac Kohn

P.S.  I actually am doing things in the wrong order, as I haven't built
any sort of equipment that would utilize an antenna yet.  If anyone has
any diagrams/ideas for a receiver, and maybe a transmitter, that I could
use for phone (at least AM, SSB would be nice), they would be much
appreciated.  Receiver might just be antenna, tank circuit shunting
unwanted stuff to ground, single-diode detector, and high-gain AF AMP.
This is good because I've already built a 1W output AF AMP, and it works
great.  Xmitter is tough because I only want to use one oscillator, but
I want to span entire HF range.  Prob. with both is switching components
in tuned circuits for different bands....  Help is much appreciated.  As
you can see I am very unexperienced and am dying to get on the air.  Thx
again in advance!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:28 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Hr2600 MODS
Date: 14 Mar 1996 15:32:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9e6p$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnhte$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, Randall Rhea <[e-mail]> writes:
>Bob Duer wrote:
>>
>> Need to know if there are freq. mods for the HR2600 just as there is for
>> the HR2510.  If there is and they are available a copy or location to get t
hem
>> would be appreciated.
>>
>
>No mods for this rig.  There was a company called Chipswitch a few years
>ago that
>sold a replacement microprocessor.  They advertised in the ham mags
>under the heading
>"give your 2510 and 2600 the same features as the big rigs."  I do not
>know if they
>are still in business.
>
>--

For the past 2 years I have been compiling what I believe to be one of the lar
gest
databases of radio mods around...  I have written an excellent front end progr
am
to assist in searching...  Every year I offer this collection entitled
N2RWE's Amateur Radio Modification Database for sale usually for $15...
As of today v4.15 is in beta right now, and the database contains over 600 mod
s,
and ove 100 service bulletins and it's growing!  I have another 150 files to
add yet, information will be posted when it's finished in about a month.
In the meantime for the one looking for the HR-2600 mods, there are several
although I cannot guarantee the accuracy or reliability since I have only
tested a few on the equip that I own...  Here's one for extended coverage:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
A reliable source recently informed me that the new Uniden HR-2600 10M rig
may be modified for "expanded" frequency coverage using the same technique as
is done for it's predecessor, the HR-2510.  (Pins 34 & 35 of the cpu lifted
from ground and tied to vcc/4v via a 10k resistor n the foil side of the pcb)
This area of the board is sealed in epoxy and very careful work with a x-acto
knife is required or you will lift the traces off of the board along with the
epoxy.  Freq coverage will be the same as for the 2510.

George, WA2RCB
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hope this helps,

   Steve - N2RWE


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:29 1996
From: Brian Webb <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HTX-212 & MFJ-1270C TNC
Date: 16 Mar 1996 21:40:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4ifch4$3s8$[e-mail]>

Several weeks ago I purchased a Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile
2-meter radio. I own an MFJ-1270C TNC. What I'd like to do is
hook these two units together so I can operate on packet.

Here are some questions:

1. Does anybody sell a pre-made HTX-212 to MFJ-1270C interface
cable?

2. If I have to make my own cable, does anybody have a schematic?

3. Where can I buy an extra modular mic plug of the type used on
the HTX-212?

4. Have any of you interfaced these rigs and gotten them to work?
If so, is there anything that I should know?

Regards,

Brian Webb, KD6NRP
Thousand Oaks, CA


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Burch Akin)
Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HTX-212 & MFJ-1270C TNC
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:44:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4in2vm$[e-mail]>
References: <4ifch4$3s8$[e-mail]>

Brian Webb <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Several weeks ago I purchased a Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile
>2-meter radio. I own an MFJ-1270C TNC. What I'd like to do is
>hook these two units together so I can operate on packet.

>Here are some questions:

>1. Does anybody sell a pre-made HTX-212 to MFJ-1270C interface
>cable?

>2. If I have to make my own cable, does anybody have a schematic?

>3. Where can I buy an extra modular mic plug of the type used on
>the HTX-212?

>4. Have any of you interfaced these rigs and gotten them to work?
>If so, is there anything that I should know?

>Regards,

>Brian Webb, KD6NRP
>Thousand Oaks, CA

I have the same radio and TNC.  I had to make my own cable.  If you
call MFJ they will mail you a schematic.  I think the parts costs
under $5.




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Damien Vale)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Internet address Radio Amateur Callbook?
Date: 15 Mar 96 01:56:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

         Could someone let me know the internet address (if any) of
         the Radio Amateur Callbook Inc. in NJ USA?

         Damien VK3CDI



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is there a way to check DX call signs on here...??
Date: 17 Mar 1996 19:58:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4ihqsn$[e-mail]>


Buckmaster has the DX callsigns now.

          http://www.buck.com/cgi-bin/do_hamcall

73,

Jack  VE3EED/W7
--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:33 1996
From: Dave Perkins <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Is there a way to check DX call signs on here...??
Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:45:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4ihj44$[e-mail]>

  Is there a site that lets one check DX addresses on the Internet
instead of buying another call book...I found one for North America but
for DX, that would be great..

  Dave



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: KaWin - New Version!
Date: 15 Mar 1996 14:07:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4ibtij$[e-mail]>

KaWin 6.35 adds support for the Buckmaster Hamcall CDROM and
a dozen more new features and improvements. KaWin 6.35 is
available for immediate download from the KaWin Home Page. 73,

Stan.
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Email:            [e-mail]
Fax:              303 444 2314
KaWin home page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
Postal address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (GEORGE R. COONEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood Email
Date: 19 Mar 1996 01:09:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4il1gj$[e-mail]>


Anyone know Kenwood Service Email address? I have their www Http
address but not their Email address. I have ICOM's Email address,
surely Kenwood has one also. If not, they should.
Thanks.
--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:35 1996
From: Isaac Kohn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for HF (maybe VHF too) scanner/receiver
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:25:51 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi all.  I'm looking for a receiver with as general coverage as
possible, pref. 80m-2m or more.  Obviously, would have to copy FM as
well as SSB and AM.  E-mail me at [e-mail] and
tell me what you have/how much.  Price is very important, as budget is
tight, so i'd prefer something that's used but working.  Thanks a lot.

73's
Isaac




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:37 1996
From: [e-mail](Bry AF4K)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Low cost CW on 2M?
Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:12:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4ieeob$[e-mail]>
References: <4i26fb$[e-mail]>

On Mar 11, 1996 19:18:22 in article <Re: Low cost CW on 2M?>,
'[e-mail] (Mark Krotz)' wrote:


>>Unless you are in a highly populated area, I think you are going to need
a
>>very sophisticated station to find anyone to work on 2m cw.  By
>>sophisticated station, I mean a beam antenna on a high tower and a very
>>sensitive receiver.  Even then, you will probably find very few stations

>>to work unless you try satellite or moonbounce.

Sorry Mark I know someone else wriote the above, and of course it is wrong.
There are
plenty of people on 2m SSB and CW. Most of the CW ops also work SSB, but
they know CW is great for weak signal DXing. I have heard many stations on
2m CW and they are not all local by any means.
It is common to work morse code CW contacts on 2 meter CW out to 200-400
miles daily for
most stations that are well equipped. With a band opening it is not unusual
to get 400-800
mile contacts on 2m CW and with moonbounce, satellites etc. the
possibilities for CW on 2m are endless!

>TS700 or similar.  Find a cheap beam, a few elements (make sure you put it

>up horizontally polarized).  There are more and more all-mode VHF rigs
>available, with the IC 706 and all.  Tropo openings can be a blast, but
I'd
>be surprised if there wasn't some local activity.  Unless you live in the
>sticks where the men are men and the sheep are nervous.  If your budget
>places the rigs I mentioned out of reach (they're older solid state) then
>look for an old Gonset or Heath lunchbox or something.
>
>Mark  KD0DM
>
>
--
Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC
[e-mail]
Keep in touch!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ronnie Richardson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mods needed for FT2500
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:32:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4ijign$[e-mail]>

I need mods for Yaesu FT2500 please. Thanks in advance.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ronnie Richardson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mods needed for FT2500
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:33:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4ijiij$[e-mail]>
References: <4ijign$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Ronnie Richardson) wrote:

>I need mods for Yaesu FT2500 please. Thanks in advance.





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mods needed for FT2500
Date: 21 Mar 1996 16:30:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4is07e$[e-mail]>
References: <4ijign$[e-mail]>

Today iz ur lucky day !!!

FT2500 MOD (140-174mhz)iz as follows:

1.Remove power + ant.
2.Remove 5 screws holding down top cover.
3.Locate and C U T - " GREEN COLOURED WIRE "
  (Green wire located btwn jumper pad #8 & ground)
4. Reassemble radio.

Note: One report states that:
     "Jumper #3 may need to be solder jumped.



    o    o     xxxxx J2003
 backup  o
   batt  o   | green
         o   | wire
         o     xxxxx J2007
  xxxxx J2006

Gud luck plse respond ur results.....dave

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:40 1996
From: Carl Estey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: More to VHF/UHF than repeaters?
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:00:23 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

During a qso recently, the idea of preparing a talk about various amateur
activities beyond chatting on repeaters came up.  The more the concept
was discussed, the more I felt compelled to prepare the talk.  After
several weeks of preparation the 2-hour presentation was developed.  It
presented the basics of EME, tropo (sporadic E) long-haul communications,
meteor scatter, aurora, lightning scatter, ATV, and satellite
communications.  Mixed in were operating activities like contesting,
local special-interest clubs, newsletters and breakfasts.  Substantial
show and tell was included.

The presentation was intended to spark interest with beginners who might
otherwise view the limits of amateur radio as what they find on
repeaters.  The sole interest was to develop the FUN concept of amateur
radio ... and that is a message we need to continue to develop and
deliver.  Amateur radio should be FUN!

My question is:  has anyone developed a video presentation using the same
subject but including actual clips from EME operations, meteor scatter
qso's, etc?  What needs to be added is actual clips of those modes being
used.  One picture is worth a 1000 words, right???

I would like to present this same talk to other local clubs, in the hope
that it will spark some folks to discovering others aspects of VHF/UHF
operations so that they may experience more FUN!

Ideas???

73
Carl
--
Carl Estey, Amateur Radio Station WA0CQG
Honeywell Inc., Homes and Building Control, MN10-2518, 1885 Douglas Dr.,
Golden Valley, MN 55422 [phone]
E-Mail:  [e-mail] or [e-mail]
(TCP/IP)


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nils)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse code debate
Date: 20 Mar 1996 15:32:28 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ip8ec$[e-mail]>
References: <4imhqp$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4imhqp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail].
us (Bill W0IYH) writes:
>One thing that bothers me is the kind of derogatory and belittling
>rhetoric that is used by those on each side of this debate against the
>other side.

 Agree!
 I why can't they keep it in the "policy" group?
 Nils Sjolander
 Uppsala, Sweden



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:42 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i2bbq$[e-mail]><pjessop.826895712@tdc>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:40:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music

I agree, one of the best in the series we see  here on PBS.  I
love the Mystery series, and especially the Morse character along
with his uncouth (sp) Sgt.  (grin).  I just wish here were more
here to watch.




In article <pjessop.826895712@tdc>, Paul Jessop
([e-mail]) writes:  >Re: Inspector Morse
>
>Excellent detective series made here in the UK and set in Oxford. The
>theme music does spell out the name of the detective and I recall a radio
>interview with the composer (whose name is Barrington Phelong or
>something which sounds the same as that) where he described hiding things
>in the music, including names of the culprits in morse.
>
>Morse's name does appear, but not his first name. He is just "Morse".
>
>The Radio Society of Great Britain were using the theme music as its
>"music on hold" on its telephone system.
>
>Paul, G8KGV
>



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:24:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4ihov7$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2bbq$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Brian Pasternak) wrote:

>MORSE CODE in MUSIC


There was a record cut in the æ50s, "CQ Serenade."  It was sung by a
female vocalist, who applied a fairly pronounced swing to the dits and
dahs.  They played it ad nauseum around the hamfests, usually as a
warm-up leading to the notorious QLF contest.  Being in my early teens
at the time, I never bothered to note who recorded it.  It was
probably produced on a vanity label.  It was this recording and QLF
contests that set amateur radio down the road to ruin.


--
73 -- Bill  AA6KC
        Internet: [e-mail]
        Packet: AA6KC @ WB6WFH.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM
        Fax: [phone]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:45 1996
From: Gareth Edwards <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 21:18:30 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i2bbq$[e-mail]> <4ihov7$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4ihov7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Bill Snyder" write
s:

> [e-mail] (Brian Pasternak) wrote:
>
> >MORSE CODE in MUSIC
>
>
> There was a record cut in the 50s, "CQ Serenade."  It was sung by a
> female vocalist, who applied a fairly pronounced swing to the dits and
> dahs.  They played it ad nauseum around the hamfests, usually as a
> warm-up leading to the notorious QLF contest.  Being in my early teens
> at the time, I never bothered to note who recorded it.  It was
> probably produced on a vanity label.  It was this recording and QLF
> contests that set amateur radio down the road to ruin.
>
>
> --
> 73 -- Bill  AA6KC
>         Internet: [e-mail]
>         Packet: AA6KC @ WB6WFH.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM
>         Fax: [phone]
>
>

I didn't see the original post on this subject, but for an example of
pretentious guff, see the Rush song 'YYZ' which has the rhythm of the
letters of the Toronto airport call at the start. It drives me nuts.

Cheers,
Gareth.
GM7WFT

--
I don't want the world; I just want your half. - TMBG
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:46 1996
From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 08:57:46 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i2bbq$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4i2bbq$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Brian Pasternak" writes:

> MORSE CODE in MUSIC

> Craig, VK3CRA, informed me of a TV show called
> "INSPECTOR MORSE". Craig has never seen the show but,
> from info gathered, states that the inspector's name is
> never given in the show. It is alleged, however,
> to be contained in Morse Code which is played as part of
> the show's introductory music.

Indeed - and a good programme too. The part of Inspector Morse
is played by John Thaw (better known as Regan from "The Sweeney")
with his sidekick played by Kevin Whateley. Morse is a Detective
in the English University town of Oxford.

The theme music does indeed contain the letters M-O-R-S-E as a
background melody.

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE
Date: 20 Mar 1996 01:07:25 -0500
Message-ID: <4io7at$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Frank C. Morris, N5YZM <[e-mail]> wrote:
>We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade.

Why?

>                                                        We have already
>lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs.

What do you mean, "lost". Do you mean, "no one there gives a damn about HF"?

>There is no doubt that you can't make anyone upgrade due to the fact that
>you have to have the desire and willingness to put the time into upgrading.

Meaning, learning Morse Code, of course.

>It is one of the things in life that you have to earn and it is not given to
>you.  But the benefits are far greater than the time required to upgrade.

Like being a VE? HF access? Would you believe that not everyone is
interested in those things?

>Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade?

Lead by example, I suppose.

Please respect the Followup-to: line.

>73's DE Frank, N5YZM

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:48 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE
Date: 21 Mar 1996 03:11:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4iqhdf$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Frank C. Morris, N5Y
ZM) writes:
>We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade.  We have already
>lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs.

that's code free technicians, 'dere, frank. there's a lot of no-tech extras to
o.
and what do you think about waivers?

>Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade?

1) offer a regular testing session.
2) hold some events that would encourage operation of the needed skills
   and technical knowledge.

(you know, my employer now makes one radio product with no alignment needed
or possible? it may be possible that a great deal of future products will be j
ust
that way as well..)

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:50 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE
Date: 20 Mar 1996 17:37:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4ipfoi$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Frank C. Morris, N5YZM) wrote:
>We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade.
>Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade?
>

   Show the hams in your club(s) what the benefits of upgrading are, and they'
ll make
the decision for themselves as to whether or not they want to put the time int
o
learning the code.  Do you have a club station?  Show no-code techs how to ope
rate it,
both CW and SSB.  Do you have 6m?  Show no-code techs the fun of working DX SS
B during
a band opening, and let them do it, too - they have the license.  Talk about y
our
positive experiences working DX, homebrewing a QRP rig, etc.
   Prepare yourself for the fact that a good percentage won't want to upgrade
anyway -
after all, many hams have lots of fun on 2m FM and never have the desire to do
 anything
else - ham radio is for these people, too; it's just a different hobby for the
m than
for you.

73 de Will KB9JTT




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Sadur)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: My new ham Web site
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:27:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4ik3iu$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Stop by my new ham radio web site.  I have built an extensive
WWW link page for all aspects of amateur radio.

the URL is:

       www.intercall.com/~jsadur/n2rbj.htm



73,

Jim, N2RBJ





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Cummings)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: N6MBR's TBOX
Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:18:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9nu4$[e-mail]>

Does anybody know of where I can get the object code for this project so I
can burn a new eprom to replace my aged version 1.08?  I can't catch Ron and
the old bbs numbers don't work anymore.
--
Internet: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need help with the Microsats please!
Date: 14 Mar 1996 17:13:32 -0800
Message-ID: <4iag7t$[e-mail]>

A fellow ham friend of mine who I am helping out is building a boat and
will be sailing out to sea in the near future. He would like to recieve
email via the microsats while he is out to sea. I haven't been able to
find any information on how exactly the microsats are used. I looked
in the in the ARRL sat book but it is no help. So could someone answer a
couple of questions for me?

1. Can you send email via them?

2. Would omnidirection antennas work decently?

3. What would be the best one's to use?

Thanks for any and all help!

Jeff Jones
AB6MB



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (DeNoid95X)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need info on VHF contest.
Date: 14 Mar 1996 14:57:52 -0500
Message-ID: <4i9to0$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (DeNoid95X)

I am wondering when the VHF contest will be and the hours.  I am going to
operate on 6M exclusively.  First timer but know the ripes of contesting
to know whats up.  Hopefully I can break into the top 5!  I would like to
know what some favorite spots are and other handy hints.  I already have
the antenna built, just need some guidance!  Thanks for any responses!  I
guess I will find the time within my scheudule to go where ever it takes
to do good.

N9RLR/2


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (GEORGE R. COONEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need Manual Kwd. 7930
Date: 16 Mar 1996 21:00:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4ifa4m$[e-mail]>


Anyone have a service manual for a Kenwood 7930 that I could get
a copy of? I'll pay all the copy and ship costs of course. Thanks.

--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christer Johansson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Need Radio Clock Info.
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:17:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4i1nb6$[e-mail]>
References: <4hl1tj$90r$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi Parker,

Parker Kent <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I need any information I can get in
>reguards to the radio signals sent from Germany
>across Europe giving time information for
>Radio Clocks.

Point your Web browser to the following URL...

  http://www.tu-bs.de/rz/sysadmin/dienste/ntp/clock.txt.html

Hope this helps,

/Christer

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-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 * Vi saljer Parallax, Inc. BASIC Stamp's produkter i Skandinavien *
     >>  World Wide Web On-Line Catalog - http://www.hth.com  <<
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:57 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Dave Leduc)
Subject: Need to borrow WWII radio
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:11:00 GMT

I am looking for a WWII vintage radio for use as a prop in a high school
play in Billerica Ma. The Play is "South Pacific".
The radio is for a scene at a WWII
military airfield. I only need to use it for a week or so and it doesn't
need to work. I can pick up and deliver it in the Boston area.
If you can help out these kids. Please contact Lou Schoenthal Sr.
at 508-667-2811. Thanks..



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:58 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Awards
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 05:02:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4io3v3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

BUT I am in the process of creating some NEW  VHF/UHF Awards
especially for Techs (and others).

Techs and Tech +s will be in separate Award Class from all other hams.

 Modes will include Packet, ATV, FM, SSB, CW, and Mixed Modes.

 Fixed, Portable and Mixed Locations,

 All bands over 50mhz.

There will be Quarterly and Annual Awards by National Level, Region
(0-9), and State levels.

Awards will be for:   States worked, Counties worked, Grids worked,
Countries worked, and Satelittes worked.

 May be more if I think of them.

ATV and FM QSOs can be thru repeaters.

 Packet can be any way you want.

Each QSO will count 1 point (I think at this time).

There will be low and high power divisions too.

EVERYONE who participates and enters WILL receive a Certificate of
Participation.
The top 5 or 10 in each award category will receive a certificate too.


What do you think about this idea?

   KE4IKT




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:06:59 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4io3v3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 22:12:36 GMT
Subject: Re: New Awards

Who gives a shit.


If they were interested in contacts other than repeaters, they
would upgrade.


 In article <4io3v3$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] ([e-mail]) writes: >BUT I am in the process
of creating some NEW  VHF/UHF Awards >especially for Techs (and
others).
>
>Techs and Tech +s will be in separate Award Class from all other hams.
>
> Modes will include Packet, ATV, FM, SSB, CW, and Mixed Modes.
>
> Fixed, Portable and Mixed Locations,
>
> All bands over 50mhz.
>
>There will be Quarterly and Annual Awards by National Level, Region
>(0-9), and State levels.
>
>Awards will be for:   States worked, Counties worked, Grids worked,
>Countries worked, and Satelittes worked.
>
> May be more if I think of them.
>
>ATV and FM QSOs can be thru repeaters.
>
> Packet can be any way you want.
>
>Each QSO will count 1 point (I think at this time).
>
>There will be low and high power divisions too.
>
>EVERYONE who participates and enters WILL receive a Certificate of
>Participation.
>The top 5 or 10 in each award category will receive a certificate too.
>
>
>What do you think about this idea?
>
>   KE4IKT
>
>
>



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:00 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4i1hha$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:37:52 GMT

In article <4i1hha$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE) writes
:
>
>I wouldn't want to slight Gary, KE4ZV.  That is a very complete
>analysis.  Perhaps Gary is a little more critical than some of us.
>
>The only thing I have is Yaesu hand-held.  I use it in my motorhome
>with a mag-mount antenna.  I have a J-pole in the apartment which
>works just fine.  I can hit repeaters 20 and 30 miles away --
>actually one is about 80 miles away.
>
>I guess it depends on your pocket book.  If you can afford it, do
>everything Gary says.  I have a limited budget.  In my opinion,
>I would sooner get the best hand-held I can and leave it at that.
>
>With the way things are advancing these days in technology, your
>radio is out-dated in a couple of years.  So, then I just have to
>throw away ONE radio.
>
>73, & welcome to the hobby,
>
>Jack  VE3EED/W7
>--

In defense of my advice, Jack, I'd note that I was offering a range
of options. I did not mean to imply that one would have to exercise
them all. I think that, unless foot mobile operation is a high priority,
a person on a budget should not buy a HT as their only rig. If only one
rig can be afforded, then I'd recomend a mobile rig with a quick disconnect
mounting bracket. Add a 12 volt power supply in the house, and you have
your operations covered with a good rig for little if any more than you'd
spend for a HT and the accessories you'd need to make it function in multiple
roles.

I also don't think that things are advancing much these days with
respect to 2m FM rigs. A 5 year old radio that you can buy for
$125 is likely to be able to communicate as effectively as the
newest whizz bang Gameboy. Most of the "advances" are in things
not directly related to amateur radio usage (wide out of band
coverage, scanning, etc).

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice
Date: 14 MAR 96 11:33:28
Message-ID: <4i9i3r$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gar
y Coffman) writes...
>None of the HTs work well with external antennas without a filter.

Radio Shack HTX-202. Had one hooked up to a groundplane on the chimney for
many months. Never heard a peep out of it, never had a desense problem. We
live 2 miles from the biggest commercial/public service site in the area. One
of the FM stations used to be audible on our telephone. We also have a scanner
on an outdoor antenna. We get the National Weather Service broadcast all over
the 2m band on that...

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (TSTADER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Web Site for Northeast Regional All Hazard Conference
Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:17:23 -0500
Message-ID: <4iniqj$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (TSTADER)

The Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency has established a Web site.
The latest information on the Northeast Regional All Hazard Conference,
June 26-28, 1996 in Boston can be found there.

The URL is  http://www.magnet.state.ma.us/mema

Please direct your telephone calls on this conference to Mr. Kevin Tully,
Area 1 Director, Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency,
[phone]  Fax [phone].

=========
On a side note.... I am looking for hams that are either ARES or RACES
afiliated who might be interested in manning a Amateur Radio booth at this
conference. We are looking for those who might be willing to show portable
packet operation as well as APRS. Also looking for those that may have
setup portable repeaters to be brought into a site and used in an
emergency event.

Please contact me if you are willing to come and join us, show off your
skills as an emergency communicator and fabricator! Please e-mail me at
this address or at [e-mail].

Terry Stader - KA8SCP/1
MEMA Area 1 Communications/RACES Officer



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (AWall92116)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: 12 Mar 1996 22:33:48 -0500
Message-ID: <4i5fms$[e-mail]>
References: <4h20m5$[e-mail]>

Finally, we have someone in this newsgroup with a little bit of common
sense.  It is a fact that many Ham operators start out on the C.B..  I am
personally sick and tired of people saying that CBer's have no brains.
The fact of the matter is is that there are many rude and terrible CBer's
but there are many nice people on the C.B. bands.  I have also heard of
Ham operators that make fools of themselves.  There is good and bad in
both worlds.  At one time in my life, I had a desire to become a Ham
Operator.  But over time, I lost interest.  To this day I still love
talking on my C.B..  As far as the morse code goes, there is one main
reason for having morse code.  The main reason is because it takes less
time to send than voice.  By the time you finish talking to your contact
by voice, the other operator could have faded out or he could be having a
hard time understanding you.  Morse is quick and easier to understand by
having a bunch of little dits and dahs rather than trying to understand
someone when they are trying to tell you their name.  Morse code is more
practical to use in some instances rather than using voice.  That is my
two cents on that subject.  I have one last thing to say; why can't yall
try to stop arguing over stupid things and try to get along.

                                                     Sincerely,

                                                  [e-mail]
                                                          "Curly"


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (gloria medcalf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NTS Messages via Packet BBSs (new web-site article)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:11:08 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Do you want to use packet radio to send messages to your non-packet
friends or even to your non-amateur friends? You can - by sending
NTS (National Traffic System) messages. The article at the URL below
explains how to do it.

Article URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/nts.html

From the home page at http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/ you can
link to other articles mostly about digital modes. The articles
may be reprinted in amateur radio club newsletters provided that
credit is given to the author.

The site also contains diagrams for wiring radios to tncs.

73 gloria ka5ztx   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:06 1996
From: Michael Tracy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Old QST indexes - help!
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:53:41 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello all.  I am in need of some older QST indexes to help us locate
particular articles for folks that contact the ARRL looking for old
article reprints.  It seems that I have exhausted my local resources on
this and now I need to ask a wider audience for help. The indexes I need
copies of are:

Volume VI (August 1922-July 1923)
Volume VII (August 1923-July 1924)
Volume XV (1931)

These items were separate from the magazine and we do not have any copies
of them. I think that the 1931 index may be part of the 1932 one, since
the 1932 index we have states "Published in two sections of which this is
Section II".

If you have any of the above or know someone that does - please let me
know.

Best Regards, Michael Tracy, KC1SX, ARRL Technical Information Services
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American Radio Relay League, Inc.     Tel: [phone]
225 Main Street                       Fax: [phone]
Newington, CT 06111                   Email: [e-mail] (internet)
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bernd Meyer)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,,rec.ham-radio,,rec.radio.amateur.misc,,alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf
Subject: OZ - Tasmania: Repeater VHF/UHF
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:38:05 +1100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi,

does anybody have a list of 2m/70cm repeaters (frequencies and locations)
in Australia and in particular in TASMANIA? ... or a pointer to a source?

Please reply via email ([e-mail]), as I am normally not
reading this list.

Thanks a lot!

73,

Bernd


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:08 1996
From: "Chris Telladira" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Phone Patch Needed For Fellow HAM
Date: 18 Mar 1996 02:57:24 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


If anyone knows where I may purchase a Drake Phone Patch for a Drake
TR-7, please e-mail me.  The item is needed by another HAM in a "Third
World" country, and should be in working order.



TNX

Chris, A22CT


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:09 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Please identify this Halicrafter.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:02:37 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <4ijm1r$[e-mail]>

In <4ijm1r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Edward Soniat du Fo
ssat Jr) writes:
>Gentle Reader:
>
>What is this radio, how old is it and should I repair or replace.
>
>It is a Halicrafter.
>
>It has a large half moon dial labeled Tuning (with the h symbol in the middle
)
>It has a smaller half moon dial labeled Band Spread to the right of Tuning.
>It has Two large equal sized knobs one either side of the dials.
>In the lower left it has an AM/CW switch (vertical slider) and speaker/phone
>switch also a vertical slider.
>In the center is has a four position pointer knob for band selection.
>Too the right of the band select is a on/volume switch.
>On the lower right it has a standby/receive switch (vertical slider).
>The dials are covered with some sort of clear plastic.
>The bands are labeled from the inside out in Megacycles .55 -1.6,
>1.7 -5, 5 -14 , and 13.5 - 30.  Some regions are labeled amateur and
>some foreign.
>
>It has two glass tubes, two small dark opaque material tube like
>components in tube like sockets, and two metal encased tube like
>components. It uses 110v AC.  It was reportedly
>functioning but that was over 15 years ago.  There is not a number or
>sticker on it that I could find.  It has been painted so if there was
>anything etched on the cabinet it would be covered.  It doesn't seem to be
>rusty but the rubber bushing that separate the chasis from the housing
>are mostly gone.
>
>Rating on a scale of 0 is run over by a truck and 10 is new this could
>be a 3, in other words it ain't pretty.  My interests are somewhat
>sentimental but my funds are limited, if I could buy a similar radio
>with more modes for the same money I would seriously consider it but I
>would like to get this working again.
>
>Any thoughts.
>
>Ed
>--
> _|  | _ Edward C. Soniat  WE4TFT  Internet:[e-mail]
> _| -|_  Mass transfer:  1854 Bishop's Green Dr
>  |  |   Marietta GA 30062-6079    [phone]
>

SX-24 or 22 maybe??  Describe the connection on the back please.


Mike Stilz
[e-mail]

The thoughts, ideas, and opinions expressed herein are mine and
are not intended to reflect those of my employer.

This message was created and transmited solely via OS/2 applications



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:11 1996
From: Walt Novinger <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Please identify this Halicrafter.
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:35:39 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ijm1r$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

> In <4ijm1r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Edward Soniat du
Fossat Jr) writes:
> >Gentle Reader:
> >
> >What is this radio, how old is it and should I repair or replace.
> >
> >It is a Halicrafter.
> >
> >It has a large half moon dial labeled Tuning (with the h symbol in the midd
le)
> >It has a smaller half moon dial labeled Band Spread to the right of Tuning.
> >It has Two large equal sized knobs one either side of the dials.
> >In the lower left it has an AM/CW switch (vertical slider) and speaker/phon
e
> >switch also a vertical slider.
> >In the center is has a four position pointer knob for band selection.
> >Too the right of the band select is a on/volume switch.
> >On the lower right it has a standby/receive switch (vertical slider).
> >The dials are covered with some sort of clear plastic.
> >The bands are labeled from the inside out in Megacycles .55 -1.6,
> >1.7 -5, 5 -14 , and 13.5 - 30.  Some regions are labeled amateur and
> >some foreign.
> >
> >It has two glass tubes, two small dark opaque material tube like
> >components in tube like sockets, and two metal encased tube like
> >components. It uses 110v AC.  It was reportedly
> >functioning but that was over 15 years ago.  There is not a number or
> >sticker on it that I could find.  It has been painted so if there was
> >anything etched on the cabinet it would be covered.  It doesn't seem to be
> >rusty but the rubber bushing that separate the chasis from the housing
> >are mostly gone.
> >This sounds like one of the many S-38 variants to me.

The real issue here, however, is the conditipon of the "rubber
bushings"...these are insolatore that keep the cabinet isolated from the
chassis which is HOT! This is an AC-DC set, having one side of the AC
line connected DIRECTLY to the chassis. If your plug or receptacle is
wired incorrectly, and you happen to touch the cabinet and a good ground
at the same time, you'll probably understand what toast feels like!
Forgive the shouting, but DO NOT OPERATE THIS SET WITHOUT AN ISOLATION
TRANSFORMER. At the least, replace the isolation bushings with rubber or
plastic to maintain the insolation. Really.

Walt
--
====================================================================
Walt Novinger                    Real Radios Keep You Warm At Night!
Collector of hollowstate communications receivers and test equipment
[e-mail]          [e-mail]          CI$: 73348,2015
http://www.hooked.net/users/waltn



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:13 1996
From: [e-mail](Bry AF4K)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QRP - HELP.  Need to give speech
Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:24:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4iefed$[e-mail]>
References: <4i70o8$[e-mail]>

On Mar 13, 1996 17:30:48 in article <QRP - HELP.  Need to give speech>,
'Timothy E. Nagle <[e-mail]>' wrote:


>On our clubs weekly 2M phone net I mentioned that
>I was interested on getting some information about QRP.
>Well, a few weeks later I received the clubs news letter
>with a schedule of up comming topics for the monthly
>club meeting.  I was listed as the main presenter
>for May's meeting on the topic of QRP.
>
>I know close to nothing about it - that's why I was
>asking questions!
>
>If anyone has any good ideas for such a talk I would
>appreciate your help.


Contact the guys on [e-mail]
Send an e-mail to that address and for the body of text:
subscribe qrp-l
Soon you'll have TONS of info and advice.
If you would like a list of sources for QRP kits and equipment, take a look

at my file MEGALIST.TXT available at:

Updated copies downloadable from BBSes at:
[phone], [phone], [phone], [phone]
[phone], [phone], [phone], [phone]

FTP site is at ftp.Lehigh.EDU.  Login as anonymous, and use your
e-mail address as the password.
FTP:  ftp://ftp.lehigh.edu/pub/listserv/qrp-l/misc/megalist.txt
WWW: http://qrp.cc.nd.edu/QRP-L/index.html
WWW: http://www.nd.edu/~shideg/

DOWNLOAD as MEGALIST.ZIP or individually as:
megalist.txt
manuals.txt
dealers.txt
tubes.txt
xtals.txt
========


>
>
>Without a clue,
>
>Tim Nagle
>KB0QOM
--
Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC
[e-mail]
Keep in touch!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Roy Lewallen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QRP - HELP.  Need to give speech
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 22:01:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4ia4ur$[e-mail]>
References: <4i70o8$[e-mail]>

In article <4i70o8$[e-mail]>,
   Timothy E. Nagle <[e-mail]> wrote:
>On our clubs weekly 2M phone net I mentioned that
>I was interested on getting some information about QRP.
>Well, a few weeks later I received the clubs news letter
>with a schedule of up comming topics for the monthly
>club meeting.  I was listed as the main presenter
>for May's meeting on the topic of QRP.
>
>I know close to nothing about it - that's why I was
>asking questions!
>
>If anyone has any good ideas for such a talk I would
>appreciate your help.
>
>
>Without a clue,
>
>Tim Nagle
>KB0QOM

I strongly recommend against giving a talk on a subject you know little or
nothing about. It wastes the audience's time, will be embarrassing to you,
and will erode the credibility of any talk you give in the future on a
topic you do know about. Call the person who schedules the club programs
and tell him that you won't do it. He owes you an apology for publicly
announcing that you'll give a talk without first getting your permission.

If you want, you might offer to research the topic and give a talk on the
order of "here's what I found out about QRP" as a sort of research report.
But only after you're ready and have told the club so should they schedule
you to give a presentation.

Roy ("Abby") Lewallen, W7EL


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (KKemper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL rte for OD5RY, ZL1RS
Date: 15 Mar 1996 18:31:55 -0500
Message-ID: <4iculb$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (KKemper)

I have checked the GO list and the callbooks for the QSL addresses for
OD5RY and ZL1RS without luck. If anyone out there has the route please
e-mail direct to [e-mail].


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:16 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RACES, Inc.
Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:38:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4i4nbl$[e-mail]>

We're shooting for IRS 501(c)(3) status this year for our County RACES unit
(since government funding has been reduced to less than $0) and I was
wondering if any other RACES units that have gone through it and
survived would care to share their experiences. I think I might be able to
wade through the forms after a coupla hundred thousand hours, but right now,
I'm not even sure of step one: what form should we take? Officially, the
RACES unit is sort of kind of a pseudo branch of our County's OES authorized
by 47 CFR 97-E and County policy, so we can't really "incorporate" it. I
think the way I've seen it done most often is to incorporate a foundation
whose sole purpose in life is to accept income, make purchases and hold
property on behalf of the RACES unit, no?

I'm sure I've got other questions; if you care to correspond via e-mail, I'll
be happy to post a summary after it's all over.

Thanks! 73 de Rob WM8S
RACES Officer
Kanawha County, West Virginia
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Bailey, WM8S ([e-mail])                   Kanawha / Charleston
Bailey Computer Systems              Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: RACES, Inc.
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:03:51
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i4nbl$[e-mail]>

In article <4i4nbl$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: RACES, Inc.
>Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:38:13 GMT

>We're shooting for IRS 501(c)(3) status this year for our County RACES unit
>(since government funding has been reduced to less than $0)

You have FUNDING!?!
... and funds?!

We have zero money.
Support from our county is just 40 year old surplus equipment.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:17 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Martin)
Subject: RADIO REVIEWS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:33:50 GMT

All:

I heard that QST published a review that compared the following
radios:

ICW31A ICOM
TH79A(D) KENWOOD
FT51R YAESU

Does anyone have a copy of that review? Is it available on the
WWW or Internet? Can someone supply a brief part of it?

David



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:18 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympic
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 05:28:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4ig87f$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (ROLAND STINER) wrote:


>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics

>H>The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly.  All frequencies in and
> >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff
> >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu-
> >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of
> >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen).

>H>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded,
> >it just might.  Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along,
> >period.

>Why, what are they worried about?
>---
Just curious.  Ham license is a FEDERAL license. How can a local non
government entity like the Atlanta Olympic Committee ban ham radios in
the area? Seems like if true something that should be taken up with
the ARRL and the FCC.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:19 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 14 Mar 1996 04:17:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4i86kj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4heuc1$[e-mail]>  <4hlt0h$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (James Aeschliman) writes:
>Personally, I think the reason for this is obvious.  There's NO PROFIT in
>it.  As you know, profit drives everything in USA these days, including
>the Olympic Games.
>Jim Aeschliman                      [e-mail]
>Black Diamond, Washington           KD7MK

doesn't hurt that Bell South is one of the big corporate sponsors either.
they're going to provide the communications equipment...therefore, there's
no need to look outside for other communications systems.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:21 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <4heuc1$[e-mail]> <4hlt0h$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i86kj$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:15:20 GMT

In article <4i86kj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk) writes:
>In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (James Aeschliman) writes:
>>Personally, I think the reason for this is obvious.  There's NO PROFIT in
>>it.  As you know, profit drives everything in USA these days, including
>>the Olympic Games.
>
>doesn't hurt that Bell South is one of the big corporate sponsors either.
>they're going to provide the communications equipment...therefore, there's
>no need to look outside for other communications systems.

As someone on-site so to speak, let me give potential Olympic
attendees some advice.

Of course leave your radios at home, else I'll be buying them real
cheap at auction after the games. And don't bother trying to bring
your guns to the games either, Ga law forbids them at sporting events,
and I'll visit you in jail after the games if you do. And forget about
bringing an auto to the games, ACOG has placed the ring off limits to
private autos, so you won't be able to drive your car in Atlanta. You'll
have to depend on the woefully inadequate mass transit system or walk
through some of Atlanta's most dangerous neighborhoods at night to
get around. (See note above about leaving your guns at home.) Atlanta's
zone 2 (where the majority of the events will be held) is a very dangerous
place, our State Attorney General commented yesterday that you'd be safer
on the streets of Sarajevo than on the streets of Atlanta after dark. I'll
send flowers to your survivors.

(If your sport is white water kayaking, yachting, archery, the
shooting sports, or you belong to the horsey set, then come on down.
Those events are being held outside Atlanta and should be both
accessable and safe. The new Wolf Creek shooting range is *very*
nice, you'll like it.)

If you must see the Olympics, I suggest you watch them on TV. You'll
have a better view, it'll be cheaper, much safer, and more comfortable
(Atlanta in July has temperatures in the 90s, and the humidity is in
the 90s too). I *live* here, and that's what I'm going to do.

And as a BTW to other Atlanta area folks, Delta just announced
*deeply* discounted flights *out* of Atlanta during the games.
You might want to take advantage of that. I hear Sarajevo is
nice in July.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian D. Suggs)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:02:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9qgb$[e-mail]>
References: <4heuc1$[e-mail]> <4hlt0h$[e-mail]>

In article <4hlt0h$[e-mail]>,
David L. Thompson <[e-mail]> wrote:
[...]
>  The next week I got a terse letter back saying that
>ACOG wanted no part of "amateur" activity.

Taken out of context, doesn't this statement seem a little absurd, given
the intended nature of the Olympic Games???

-Brian Suggs, AC6GV


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher Baldwin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 17:18:08 PST
References: <[e-mail]>

> Of course leave your radios at home, else I'll be buying them real
> cheap at auction after the games. And don't bother trying to bring
> your guns to the games either, Ga law forbids them at sporting events,
> and I'll visit you in jail after the games if you do. And forget about
>
> Gary
> --
> Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems

> Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addre
s
> 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
> Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |



--
Christopher Baldwin
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:23 1996
From: Russell Chandler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ramsey Amplifiers
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:37:03 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Need some opinons and thoughts about the Ramsey
QRP Linear Amplifiers.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Luciano Ostrogovich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RCI-2950
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:00:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4icp40$[e-mail]>

I am looking for the calibration instructions of the RCI-2950. I hope
that somebody may help me. Tanking you in advance.
                                                Luciano

--
****************************************




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:26 1996
From: [e-mail](Rob Murphy )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: REQ: 17 & 20 meter nodes for packet
Date: 17 Mar 1996 23:48:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4ii8bp$[e-mail]>

Could someone let me know as many 17 & 20 meter packet nodes that are
in the US and their location. I've had many problems finding them. It's
hard enough to find 2 meter nodes. The repeater directory doesn't list
half of what's out there. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thankx, N9RXE


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Guy A. DeRose)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Roll-up J-Pole
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:34:38 LOCAL
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> John Lloyd KE4UTX <jlloyd@raleigh.i
bm.com> writes:

>        I'm looking for plans for roll-up j-poles I can hang in
>my office and take camping with me for 2m and 70cm. If you can
>point me to articles in QSL or web/ftp sites I would be  very
>happy.

There was a construction article in QST about a year and a half ago describing

this very thing.  I can't remembr the exact issue with certainty, but I think
it was September, 1994.  I have made 3 of them, and they are quite handy.  I
have one hanging out of my office window, and one that I keep rooled up in my
backpack to take hiking.  They are quite useful, and very inexpensive to make.

I hope this helps.

KE6JTN
Guy A. DeRose
Manager, Senior Physics Laboratory
Caltech


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:28 1996
From: Gregg Houck <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Semi-Custom Logic Design
Date: 16 Mar 1996 18:51:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4if2k6$[e-mail]>

If you need a Digital I.C. to perform a special task,  or you
need to do Login Reduction E-mail or Fax us your needs.  We will
contact you,  go over your needs and then issue you a quote.

We design semi-custom logic using PAL's, EPLD's and PEEL's..

We also do custom software for Microcontrollers like the PIC and
Motorola HC05/HC11 controllers.

E-mail us at [e-mail]
FAX us at 814-355-8896
Leave us a voice message at 814-355-7648

Houck's Communications and Electronics
717 N. Allegheny Street
Bellefonte, PA  16823

Gregg
WA3WNE



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Senator Goldwater Interview
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 16:19:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4ic58d$[e-mail]>

An in-depth, amateur radio interview, 2 hours in length, is now available on
the net, via RealAudio, courtesy of TAPR and Greg Jones. The interview was
conducted by Len Winkler, KB7LPW, on 3/28/93, live on the Ham Radio & More
Show. Listen and enjoy.
http:www.tapr.org/hrm

Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html

The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country.

The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon
days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160.
LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc

Support "WOG". Written only General!!!






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:30 1996
From: Randall Rhea <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: setting up FM broadcast
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:10:03 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: Doug Fairclough <[e-mail]>

Doug Fairclough wrote:
> some co workers and i want to set up a fm broadcast in our
> work space to take control back of the stereo situation.
>

The Ramsey FM-10A kit is an FM stereo transmitter that is perfectly
legal.
With a good antenna, the range is about 1/4 mile.  You can get one at
a ham radio or electronics shop.

--

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Systems Engineer
Informix Software                                   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ray D. Congdon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: setting up FM broadcast
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 17:59:38 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

A simple low buck solution is the Ramsey FM-25 Stereo Transmitter.  Kit is 129
.95
rock stable (synthesized from a Crystal source).  Put a Cd Changer on the inpu
t and
you have a system that can cover an area abt 1/4 mi. in radius.  Ramsey Electr
onics
1-800-446-2295 Good Luck!  ( I installed one for a ski resort here to cover th
eir
lodge area... Works great!)
----
Ray D. Congdon   N7HQK
ISA-USA
5515 N. 4400 W.
Cedar City, Utah 84720



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:31 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Abraham Stavsky)
Subject: Southern Cal. Repeater database?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 06:16:58 GMT


Anyone know of any on the 'Net?
Thanks,
KE6OCM
--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:32 1996
From: Will Flor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Technician Plus
Date: 17 Mar 1996 00:44:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4ifn9t$[e-mail]>
References: <4hihf3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <Pine.SUN.3.90.960309003721.12949C-100000@zippy> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Joel B Levin) wrote:
>In <[e-mail]>,
>   Gary Coffman <[e-mail] (Gary Coffman)> wrote:
>|And unless the FCC has changed its mind lately (possible since the
>|move to an all VE exam system), they'll accept a First or Second
>|Class Radiotelegraph certificate in lieu of any amateur Morse speed
>|test. So you could get a Tech+ license without taking any of 1(A),
>|1(B), or 1(C). No written credit for the commercial certificate,
>|however, since at least the rules and regs part is different.
>
>Pretty sure this is still valid.  Certainly it also works the other way: an
>Amateur Extra license stands in lieu of the 2nd class Radiotelegraph code
>test requirement.
>
>

I know it was still valid about six months ago when a good friend
of mine got a few Commercial Service tickets.  Of course, *nothing*
substitutes for the 1st-Class Radiotelegraph code test requirement -
my goodness, it's stiff!

73 de Will KB9JTT
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Harry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ten Tec Equip. For Sale + more
Date: 15 Mar 1996 02:50:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4ialu9$[e-mail]>
References: <4hr38c$[e-mail]>

Thank you for the response.  The swr analyzer is sold.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gilbert Baron)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Test from DESKMEDIA Mar 12 1722
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:25:31 GMT
Message-ID: <314607ce.2383398@199.86.32.8>

This is a test from DESKMEDIA
_
Gil Baron W0MN [e-mail] Web http://www.isl.net/~gbaron
"Bailar es vivir" pgp2.6 key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html
"Cuatro caminos hay en mi vida. Cual de los cuatro sera el mejor"


[Posted with Agent .99d. For info, email [e-mail].]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Todd Jonz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TTL/RS-232 converters
Date: 19 Mar 1996 21:58:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4inamj$[e-mail]>

I'm in the market for a pair rig-to-PC interfaces (TTL to RS-232 level
converters), one for a Yaesu FT-736R and another for a Kenwood TS-950SD.  I
called the local HRO store to inquire about prices and availability and was
absolutely astonished to learn that they want $110 and $120, respectively,
for these little beasts.  I assume that this is in the ballpark of the MSRP,
and that the other major suppliers will have similar prices.

I recall seeing ads in the past in QST for several third parties offering
these interfaces in the $40 to $50 price range, but after pouring through
the last three issues, I've come up dry.  Can anybody give me a pointer?


KB6JXT, Todd

P.S.  Please excuse what may be a stupid hardware question from an admitted
      software geek, but us there any possible justification for a $120
      price tag on an item like this?  Seems *way* out of line to me....




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (MAILLET D.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: tube CFTH   TH3T  1100  info ?
Date: 19 Mar 1996 11:26:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4im5lq$[e-mail]>

pse help me for info
tube CFTH    TH3T  1100
tnx
F5TSW
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Tx on busy mod for Icom IC-V68?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:34:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4i6j4d$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Eugene Kang) wrote:

>Is there a mod that will allow my Icom IC-V68 to transmit on a busy channel,
>or is it configurable? My unit came with a `manual' that looked more like a
>spec sheet.

>Please send me a copy of your reply via email as my hopeless ISP misses
>half the newsgroup postings.

>thanks!

>--Eugene Kang/[e-mail]

Eugene,

No mod needed for this.  Transmit lockout on a busy channel is a land
mobile feature. it is turned on or off during the programming of the
V-68.  It is there to keep users of land mobile radio from keying up
all over each other or forved respect for other users on the same
frequency.  There are also other neat items like penelty timers where
one user hogs a system, the radio will apply a penelty time not
allowing the user to transmit until the time runs out.   this is all
done to protect users from themselves.

So you need to look in the programming manual or see the dealer who
sold the radio to you for instructions on turning off the trasnmit
lockout while busy setting. You could also e-mail ICOM tech Support at
[e-mail], they will want to know what country you are
in, they will be able to refer you to a dealer who can help.  The V-68
is not dsold for use in the United States as it is not type accepted
because it transmits from 136 to 174 Mhz inclusively.

Gary




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:37 1996
From: Jan-Martin Hertzsch <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: URL of Canadian club?
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:34:57 +0100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Dear friends of r.r.a.m.,

some days ago an URL of the web page of a radio club in northern
Canada (VE1 or VE7) was posted to this newsgroup. I had already
bookmarked it, but the file got lost again. Would the original
poster be so kind to re-post this message or to send me the URL
via e-mail?

Many thanks in advance and vy 73 de DG0LFH
Jan-Martin


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: US Ham in Mexico
Date: 17 Mar 1996 00:02:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4ifkqa$[e-mail]>


Look back a few postings and you'll see my previous answer.

Jack  VE3EED/W7
--


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:39 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:31:09 GMT
Message-ID: <4i70ot$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4hniu4$pfl$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>The FARs never gave the PIC of a commercial passenger carrying
>aircraft the right to allow you to use a non-certified transmitter
>on his aircraft. The FARs said that the *operator* must certify
>that the radio won't cause harmful interference to that *particular*
>aircraft.

There is no requirement for aircraft operators to "certify" any portable
electronic devices.  They are just required to make a determination that
the device will not cause interference.

>The operator is the *carrier*, IE Delta. And the certification
>was required for the *particular* aircraft tail number, not just for
>the aircraft *type*. That meant the carrier had to pull the aircraft
>out of service for up to half a day to do the certification, and
>none of them would do that, so none of them would give you permission
>to use the radio. Now they can't even do that, the new FARs don't
>even give them the option to test and certify.

I believe you maybe confusing the requirements for installing equipment
with using portable devices.  An installation on a aircraft would require
certification.

>Now for private or charter operations, the PIC could give you permission
>provided he was operating under VFR rules at the time. And he still can.
>So if you're flying in a non-scheduled puddle jumper, just ask the PIC
>if you can use the radio. If he says yes, you're cool.

As part 91 PIC, I *could* allow the use of a ham transmitter under IFR if
I determine that it will not cause interference with the communications
or navigation systems.  The device would then comply with FAR 91.21.  But
this is not the way a part 135 or 121 carrier will/should deal with the
issue.



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:41 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines
Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:17:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4i6vup$[e-mail]>
References: <Pine.SV4.3.91.960304175728.3487B-100000@mirage> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Cole Cunningham <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Check the amateur rules of the FCC, specifically 97.11(c) where it
>says..."For a station aboard an aircraft, the apparatus (ham station)
>shall not be operated while the aircraft is operating under Instrument
>Flight Rules, as defined by the FAA, unless ther station has been found
>to comply with all applicable FAA rules"..
>
>Since all commercial aircraft flights operate under IFR all the time,
>regardless of weather, and most likely your station hasn't been checked
>out on that particular aircraft, its against the rules...


The applicable FAR for airborne ops is 91.21.  It basically forbids the
use of ANY portable electronic device on board any airplane with four
specific exceptions and a fifth exception that can be vaugely read to
allow other things.

The fifth exception is just that a device can be used if the "operator*"
has determined that the device will not interfere with on board systems.

*not the radio operator, but the operator of the aircraft - the airline.

The FAA has offered guidance on 91.21 to the airlines and general
aviation in "advisory circular" AC 91.21-1.  See the text of the AC if
you want to at ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/cwheeler/aviation/ac91211.txt

There is no elaborate testing requirement to "certify" portable
electronic devices.  The operators just have to make a determination that
it will not cause interference.  There are recommendations for testing
but no specific mandates.  However in AC 91.21-1, the FAA has told
airlines that they should not allow the use of any transmitters on board.


>The primary navigation and landing aids on an aircraft (VOR and ILS)
>operate in the 108-118 MHz range, the vertical guidance (glideslope) is
>in the 330 MHz range, and we all know what close transmitters do to our
>ham radios. So would you like to be making an approach in bad weather to
>landing minimums (100 ft ceiling and 1/4 mile visibility ahead) and
>about the time you get low, somebody keys his mike, turns on his laptop,
>fires up the cellular, turns on the electric razor, etc... OOPS, aw
>shucks....


Some geewiz info on your examples:  The use of cellular telephones on any
aircraft while airborne is prohibited by FCC rules (22.925) - there is no
need for an FAR on that.  Electric razors are one of the PEDs that are
specifcally allowed by FAR 91.21 in addition to hearing aids, pacemakers
and portable voice recorders.


>The possibilities for interference are endless, and all commercial
>aircraft are thoroughly checked BEFORE critical use to make sure they
>don't have any spooks...
>
>So for your OWN protection, keep the HT in the OFF position while on
>board...


Good advice.  And face it, you don't have to use your ham gear when
flying on a commercial airliner.


>Cole Cunningham,
>Commercial, Instrument and Multiengine rated pilot, Avionics Design
>Engineer for 20+ yrs, FAA Licensed Repairman, FCC General Ticket,
>Amateur Extra....


Curtis
PP-ASEL, GROL, KD6ELA



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tim English)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Vanity callsigns --  when ????
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:08:25 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have received my 610-V forms. Does anyone know when the first gate
is expected to open up and when subsequent gates will open ? Thanks in
advance.
--
Tim
            *************************************************************
               Amateur Radio: wb8ogm @ aa8gl.#nemi.mi.usa.noam
               Internet Email and Voice Email: [e-mail]


               "Sometimes imagination is better than knowledge"
            *************************************************************



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity callsigns --  when ????
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:03:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4ih9mj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Tim English) wrote:

>I have received my 610-V forms. Does anyone know when the first gate
>is expected to open up and when subsequent gates will open ? Thanks in
>advance.
>--
>Tim
>            *************************************************************
>               Amateur Radio: wb8ogm @ aa8gl.#nemi.mi.usa.noam
>               Internet Email and Voice Email: [e-mail]
>

>               "Sometimes imagination is better than knowledge"
>            *************************************************************

========

SB QST @ ARL $ARLB011
ARLB011 Vanity calls delayed

ZCZC AG90
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 11  ARLB011
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  February 15, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB011
ARLB011 Vanity calls delayed

ARRL has learned that the FCC may delay until mid-1996 the
announcement of when it plans to open the first gate or gates of the
vanity call sign program. A Commission spokesman says the FCC first
wants to deal with remaining Petitions for Reconsideration it has
received. The FCC had been expected to announce opening dates early
this year.

FCC vanity call sign application Form 610V is now available, but the
FCC will not accept completed forms until it opens the appropriate
kfiling gates.

Prospective applicants can get the FCC Form 610V package by writing
ARRL, 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111. Please include an sase.
Form 610V also is available from the FCC via the Internet at
http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form610V or
ftp://ftp.fcc.gov/pub/Forms/Form610V/, or by fax at 202-418-0177.
Ask for Form 006108.

The FCC's Forms Distribution Center also accepts orders for Form
610V at 800-418-3676.
NNNN
/EX





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:44 1996
From: Robertson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Virtual Radio Museum
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:18:10 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi!

For anyone interested in the history of Radio, stop by my Virtual Radio
Museum at:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1630/otr.html

The site is heavily enhanced with JavaScript and GIF animation, so bring
your Netscape 2.0 and have fun!

-Lin/KJ6EF


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (William L. Fuqua III)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wake Up Call
Date: 20 Mar 96 20:30:03 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


>
>When the bands are taken away and auctioned off for HDTV channels or
>wireless computer networks (commercial ones, of course) whatever, we
>all will lose, but the "beepers" will be primarily to blame for
>keeping the "clubhouse" closed to those who don't share their
>backward, parochial views.
>
>
>Carl R. Stevenson            | Design-Systems Engineering-Analysis
>Consulting Engineer          |------------------------------------
>Internet: <[e-mail]>     | Mobile Radio - Cellular/PCS - VSAT
>Amateur Radio - WA6VSE       |   CATV - Wired/Wireless LAN/WAN
>PGP Pub Key ID= 0x66682155   | h/w - s/w - protocols - simulations
>

   It is already code free for the ham bands that could be used for
HDTV etc. There are plenty of hams on those bands.

Bill ko4ww


  William L. Fuqua III  P.E.
  Department of Physics and Astronomy
  CP-177 Chem. Phys. Bldg.
  University of Kentucky
  Lexington, Ky 40506-0055
  E-mail [e-mail]
  Phone [phone]




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:46 1996
From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 16 Mar 1996 20:38:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4if8sc$shf$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>and leave beeping to the lesser mortals who don't know
>any better.

You just don't get it, do you Gary?

The start of this thread SPECIFICALLY asked everyone to ignore
the trivial "beep or not beep" BS. Further, labeling folks who
use Morse as "lesser mortals" seems deliberately calculated to
avoid a cooperative effort in finding a solution.

Everytime I start thinking you might be a forward looking fellow,
you turn back to your divsive rhetoric.

de Hans, K0HB

--
73, de Hans, K0HB

--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <4i4ur2$[e-mail]> <4i9ojc$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:33:48 GMT

In article <4i9ojc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ross Alexa
nder) writes:
>
>What if we could get a whole crowd of 70cm/23cm split fm repeaters
>into orbit?  That would let people with fairly pedestrian gear work a
>much larger potential pool of other amateurs, and gets around the
>"which came first, the chicken or the egg" problem.  Then you can
>count on occupation pressure to drive them into the second generation
>of 23cm/12cm machines, and so on.
>
>Could some clever person comment on how severe the doppler problem
>would be?

It's bad for LEOs, and gets worse as the frequency increases, but
it is solvable. The worse problem is the FM capture effect. The
guy with the EME setup is going to grab the transponder and monopolize
it for the whole pass. We've already seen this in action with O27
and with Shuttle and Mir.

FM is a bad choice for something with such a large footprint and
such a large and uncontrolled user community. It allows, and encourages,
one user to monopolize the entire (very precious and limited) power
budget of the transponder. That's a poor use of spectrum and orbital
resources.

The traditional AMSAT answer to this problem is to ban use of
analog FM on the satellites, to use peer pressure against alligators,
ban contests from the birds (which tend to bring out the alligators),
and to foster superior weak signal reception capabilities with the
ZRO tests. An alternative management strategy, used on the microsats
and Mir, is to use digital methods which inherently support sharing,
IE packet. That works fairly well, but can be improved through use
of better channel management protocols. Since stations who don't
follow the proper protocols don't get through, it becomes self-
enforcing.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Todd Little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 12 Mar 1996 22:45:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i4ur2$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]>
Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]> wrote:

> It is significant to note that the turf which will come under
> pressure is not down on HF but almost exclusively above 100mhz.
> It is time for us here on r.r.a.POLICY to abandon the tired old
> debates which divide our ranks on trivial issues like CW, or HTÆS
> at the Olympic Games, and instead combine our talents and
> brainpower on techniques and strategies aimed at ensuring our
> survival. Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service.
> Will you help?
>
> --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!

Amen!

Several things come to mind with this call to arms.  First is we need
to figure out a way to build the amateur radio community as a
community.  The comments expressed here seem to often indicate
that there is a large portion of the amateur radio community that
doesn't welcome or recognize another large portion of the
amateur radio community.  Although it is a tired saying it
seems to apply:  "United we stand, divided we fall."  I'm not sure
what's the best way to solve this other than to try and convince
the parties on both sides of the issue that our internal bickering
is more detrimental than almost anything else.

Another obvious issue is how to attract people to these bands
that are relatively unused.  From my own perspective, I'm only
active on a number of the VHF+ bands because of the various
contests that are available.  With my antenna restrictions I can't
hope to compete in an HF contest, but could potentially compete
in VHF+ contests, especially if I rove as I intend to.  But aside from
that activity, in the Chicago area there is little activity on anything
other than 2 meter and 70 cm repeaters when it comes to VHF+.
220 is not particularly well occupied and 903 MHz is *much* less
occupied.  1296 MHz is a little better occupied and above that
it is a handful of experimenters.

Given the spare occupancy of these bands, it is hard to convince
the average amateur to spend the money to get on those bands
as they'll have few people with which they can communicate.
This is probably the primary reason for the code/no-code debate
with respect to HF.  An HF station gives one a *VERY* large
population to talk to whereas a 903 MHz station around here might
allow you to talk to under 10 other amateurs.

This suggests to me that one of two things must happen.  Either
we need to find new uses other than one on one QSOs to use
these bands, or we need to drop the price  barrier to such a low
level that these bands will become better occupied and hence
offer the interested amateur more people with which they can
communicate.

I'll see what I can come up with for new uses and post that
subsequently.  As for decreasing the price barrier, perhaps
others have good suggestions on how to help there.

73,
Todd
N9MWB



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (David L. Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:18:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4ii2fp$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]> wrote:

 d
>It is significant to note that the turf which will come under
>pressure is not down on HF but almost exclusively above 100mhz.
>It is time for us here on r.r.a.POLICY to abandon the tired old
>debates which divide our ranks on trivial issues like CW, or HTÆS
>at the Olympic Games, and instead combine our talents and
>brainpower on techniques and strategies aimed at ensuring our
>survival. Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service.
>Will you help?

>--
>73, de Hans, K0HB

>--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service!

It is already happening...the question of banning HT's at the Olympics
plus deciding that the Olympics will have no official amateur radio
station shows that amateur radio is held in low esteem.

The best defense that amateur radio has is that we continue to be a
pool of electronics experts and are willing to try new things.
Amateurs greatly expanded the use of SSB before most other services,
have some of the most extensive packet networks around such as the SE
DX Packet Cluster covering 14 states, and proved that EME will work on
several frequencies below 1296Mhz.   Handling emergency traffic sounds
nice but 80% of the worlds hams have no third party traffic
rights..emergency or not.

We need to support ARRL and IARU as they are respected attendees and
contributors to the WARC conferences.

73, Dave K4JRB



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 14 MAR 96 10:23:15
Message-ID: <4i9er0$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David S.A. Stine) write
s...
>Since we don't use the spectrum, we are going to lose it. It is that
>simple. And in my opinion, we should lose it, because you're right: it
>isn't hard to hack equipment to use on those bands, but so few seem wont to
>break a hint of sweat to make it happen.

Yah, and there's a reason why few are willing to bother. Simply, amateurs
have little use for those bands. Really - what I'm I gonna do on 10 GHz
besides send a few contest beeps to another hilltop? No use = no interest. I
suppose I could set up a high speed data link with my friend in the next town,
but I have no use for such a thing. I haven't even turned on my PC in weeks.

>We have damn few excuses why these frequencies aren't used. But lo! The HF
>bands seem quite amply used, and there is that nasty, outdated code

Yup. I have somewhat limited money to spend on radio "toys", so I spend it
where my interests are. HF and 2m/70cm for local stuff. I'm trying to get us
(wife is a ham, too) going on 6m by modifying ancient commercial VHF-low
radios. That's on the back burner for now, until I get all the parts together.

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:54 1996
From: [e-mail]@igc.net  (Carl R. Stevenson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 16 Mar 1996 22:30:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4iffed$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Carl R. Stevenson)

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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Gary Coffman
) writes:
> (snip)
>There are a few engineers who are hams, and who beep furiously, but
>when you pin them down, they say that they do it to get away from
>the complexities that they face in their jobs. In other words, it
>serves as mind pablum, like watching TV. That's not the sort of
>engineer we want or need to open up the upper bands. We want people
>so totally enamored of technology that they can't get enough of it
>at work where their free rein is limited by the need to meet deadlines
>and project milestones. That sort of person isn't interested in the
>mundane, the old, the way grandpappy did it, sort of amateur radio
>found primarily among the beepers.
>
>If I had my way, the code test free class would be Extra, the group
>who should know enough to realize beeping doesn't matter, and leave
>beeping to the lesser mortals who don't know any better. (How's that
>for inflamatory?)
>
Gary,

Inflamatory as it may be to the "beepers" it's "right on!"  We've got
far too many "beep forever" folks and not enough new blood to develop
the new gear and applications to assure our continued use of the
spectrum.

When the bands are taken away and auctioned off for HDTV channels or
wireless computer networks (commercial ones, of course) whatever, we
all will lose, but the "beepers" will be primarily to blame for
keeping the "clubhouse" closed to those who don't share their
backward, parochial views.


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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz)
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:00:46 GMT

In article <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> Hans Brakob K0HB <71
[e-mail]> writes:
>
>It is significant to note that the turf which will come under
>pressure is not down on HF but almost exclusively above 100mhz.
>It is time for us here on r.r.a.POLICY to abandon the tired old
>debates which divide our ranks on trivial issues like CW, or HTÆS
>at the Olympic Games, and instead combine our talents and
>brainpower on techniques and strategies aimed at ensuring our
>survival. Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service.
>Will you help?
>

 Sure Hans, the question is: " Can a combined effort to retain our existing
allocations, or add new ones really influence the ITU? "

 If history is any indicator, it seems most likely that the ITU will simply
ignore Amateurs, and give the broadcasters *exactly* what they want! The
various governments will also standby and let the broadcasters do whatever
they want - remember the old allocation of '200m and down'??

 The broadcasting industry has a reputation for being as coniving and greedy
as any business could ever be. They have lied, cheated, bribed and stolen in
their pursuit of spectrum, finally resorting to simply placing stations on
frequencies that were allocated to other services. And they have done so with
no opposition or punishment from government. That those in government were
acting out of vested interests is a matter of public record.

 In order to prevent this, we Amateurs must not only band together, we must
find a powerful champion INSIDE both government and the ITU. Someone who is
willing to understand our need as well as the history that predicates this
sort of combined action. Someone who really knows the history and will not
bend to the economic incentives that the broadcasters will all too willingly
entice any such person with!

 What we should be striving for is a set of harmonically-related bands that
can be Amateur exclusive allocations worldwide! With guarantees, in writing,
that these allocations will *never* be taken away or subtracted from.

 Then there is the not-so-little problem of the non-ITU signatory countries..
..I need only point to the mess that is 40m and thereabouts to illustrate
my point. The UN and ITU should bring pressure to bear on these people -
whatever works (economic sanctions from the US and Europe might be a good
starting point!) until they abandon their non-signatory status and join the
rest of the world in acting responsibly towards spectrum management!

 Some other targets: Business band radio - still largely FM, non-trunked and
underutilized, occupies a great deal of the 30-500 MHz area wastefully.
Fixed-Service HF - totally obsolete, no real use of this can possibly be
justified, given cellular technology. IMTS - still with us, why?? UHF-TV -
another wasteland! Even the heavy-population metro areas seldom have more
than 8 stations there, even tho theres room for 70!! Besides, DBS and cable
are going to guarantee that this space remains unused. High Seas - a total
waste now that most ships carry sat gear! 2-3.5, 4-7, 8-12, 16-21, 22-24MHz
plus all those V/UHF frequencies?? Absurd! There arent enough ships in the
whole world to justify it! And lastly, there's a matter of those 'experiments'
gone awry, like the 220-222 MHz slice that was "SUPPOSED" to have helped to
usher in ACSSB...remember? Here again, the forces inside industry screwed
the Amateurs out of some space...and they never did with the spectrum what
they claimed! These sorts of situations should be eliminated by insisting that
the allocation either be used for it's stated purpose or else.

 Some things to kickoff the dialog..

73!



[e-mail] (or:[e-mail]) KB6LUY (private email:eks@westwo
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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:07:58 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: [e-mail] (David S.A. Stine)
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:07:30 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Yacomwood doesn't offer turnkey solutions above 1.2 GHz, so we can't
>just burn the plastic to occupy this spectrum. But the equipment isn't
>hard to convert or build, its available, and just waiting for us to
>heat up a soldering iron, fire up the mill, spin up the lathe, or
>grab a file and start to work.

Well, *obviously*, the problem is that we don't have enough people in the
hobby to get activity on these bands. We keep requiring people to learn
those silly outdated modes like CW and that scares off all the technical
people who would fill up all these UHF bands if only we'd get these silly
CW requirements out of the way.

What's that? There's a no-code Tech license? And there still aren't people
experimenting and filling up the VHF/UHF/SHF bands?

Gee, what a bummer.

Pardon my sarcasm, Gary, but here's the fact: most people in radio today
(most, not all) want it all handed to them on a china plate, with back-lit
LCD panels, at ever-decreasing prices. Scantily clad models fawning over
the equipment at trade shows helps, but is optional.

Since we don't use the spectrum, we are going to lose it. It is that
simple. And in my opinion, we should lose it, because you're right: it
isn't hard to hack equipment to use on those bands, but so few seem wont to
break a hint of sweat to make it happen.

We have damn few excuses why these frequencies aren't used. But lo! The HF
bands seem quite amply used, and there is that nasty, outdated code
requirement for people to be able to use these frequencies.

So the thinking as to how to get the UHF frequencies in use is not working.
All the people who keep yammering and bleating that the code barrier is the
threat to amateur frequency allocations because it poses a barrier to
getting technical people into the hobby can sit down and re-think their
position. The problem of getting more activity on the UHF bands has been
around since the technician license was implemented. Remember when the Tech
first went in? Why was it instituted? To get more activity on the high
bands. Which it did -- as long as there were appliances for the bands in
question.

Then along comes the no-code Tech. And we have more activity; but again,
only on the bands for which there are appliances.

Now the threat to the UHF and SHF bands is greater than ever has been, and
the code issue isn't there. The no-code Tech license test is hardly what I
would call a challenge to any EE who can read a 50-page summary of the
regulations and band plans. The cost of parts is cheaper and they are more
available then ever before, test equipment for the frequencies in question
is available in surplus at prices heretofor only dreamed of, and yet, I can
tune across the low end of 432 and hear.... silence.

And not to let the pro-code proponents slide by without their due: the idea
that the code test(s) are a barrier to keeping out the riff-raff is proven
false, time and again. When I tune across the HF phone bands recently, I
can't help but wonder what happened to the ham community to allow these
sorts of lids (yes, there is a word we don't hear often anymore) to
continue operating.

Quite frankly, what is really at issue in the ham radio hobby has little to
do with whether we have code tests or cheap appliances available for unused
bands, but that would get me up on a soapbox for megs worth of typing.

dsa






From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 13 Mar 1996 19:12:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4i76me$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <4i4ur2$[e-mail]>

Hans, Gary, and Todd have posted articles on the subject of occupying the
upper regions of the amateur spectrum.  Nice thread Hans.  In reply:

Oscar 13D will be an exciting addition to the tools we have within our
reach on UHF+ frequencies.  The problem with the current link frequencies
(and satellite down-link power) is that the requisite antennas are very
large, and the radios are very expensive.  From what I understand, the new
Oscar will have links on 1.2 GHz and 2.4 GHz as well as 2 m and 440 (and
others), and will have greater power output.  These new prospects for DX
above 30 MHZ should raise the excitement level a bit.

This, coupled with the fact that, out here in California at least, HOA's
are now required by state law to allow the installation of the smaller
types of satellite dishes!  So what if it's got a Yagi in front of it! hi
hi  We'll be able to get some gain on these upper frequencies without
having to use huge arrays of 15 element Yagi antennas, mounted on 1 KB
(kilobuck) heavy duty az/el rotators.  The smaller antennas _might_ let us
get away with a couple of radio shack TV rotators instead.  And they are
certainly something we can put up without drawing the attention of the FAA.

Let's face it, none of our neighbors really want to live next door to a
guy with a 100' tower, mounted with beam antennas for every band.  We
can't expect government to legislate away this fact.  But UHF+/microwave
frequencies, their correspondingly small antennas, low power, and the
potential for DX without HF privileges looks to me like a good bet for
increasing activity in the near future because of it's accessibility.  The
"band openings" are certainly more predictable.

Satellite DX is do-able now, but it should become easier and less
expensive.  An increase in the demand for microwave products will
eventually lead to an increase in the supply, and then perhaps a decrease
in pricing will follow.  Once we begin to see the equipment appear in the
amateur radio catalogs, it'll be off and running.  We need to see more
people carrying Mini-Circuits RF modulators, balanced mixers, amplifiers
and filters in stock for example, because it's difficult to imagine a
whole lot of home brew strip line PC board fabrication being done
successfully.  At present, most the home-brew projects found in the ARRL
handbooks are not very well suited to the needs of a blossoming
technology, but we have seen this begin to change.

Until now, the satellite and microwave crowds have each been considered a
kind of sub-culture within amateur radio.  With the advent of Oscar 13D
(let's keep our fingers crossed), perhaps it's time to bring the
activities of these very creative groups more into the mainstream.  These
guys already know how to assemble simple transceivers from off-the-shelf
hybrid components, and have done the ground breaking work.  It would seem
that since the super high bands are there waiting, and that DX
communications on them is becoming a reality, we need to draw up a map and
plot a course for amateur radio that will allow more hams to find their
way to them.

I'm sure that others can think of more inventive ways of using the upper
reaches of the spectrum, but I think that if microwave satellite DX were
more accessible to the average ham, it would be a very popular new avenue.

73
Jim, KE6JPO


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:10:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9nee$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4i9ai2$5i6$[e-mail]>

In article <4i9ai2$5i6$[e-mail]>,
Hans Brakob K0HB  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>With all due respect to your opinion, we already know the
>PROBLEMS. Can we direct our attention, in a good-faith
>cooperative manner, to SOLUTIONS in this thread?
>--
>73, de Hans, K0HB

Hans,

I seem to read an awful lot from you. Mostly opinions and YOUR interpatation
of discussed rules and regs. Many do not agree with you, but you always
proclaim to be correct.

This of course is fine...it is not my aim to attack or flame you, but
simply to ask a question...

Are you posting for yourself, or the ARRL?

Thanks om, & take care.   :)


--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:02 1996
From: Zack Lau <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 09:58:31 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <4i4ur2$[e-mail]> <4i76me$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman wrote:

>
> Since the antennas spend most of their time looking up, tall towers
> aren't mandatory. And antennas for UHF/SHF can certainly be smaller,
> but not yet in the DBS 18 inch class for P3D. To take advantage of
> really small antennas and low power, we're going to have to do what
> the DBS people have done, go all digital. We already see the promise
> of that with the microsats. Briefcase stations can be used to access
> those satellites *right now*.

The DBS 18 inch dish should do just fine for 2.4 GHz. Actually, with
a good preamp it will even work for Oscar 13's experimental transponder.
Back when it flew 2.4 GHz was real exotic territory.  These days you
can buy a 2.4 GHz transceiver from Icom (the IC-970 with optional band
module).

Actually, what the DBS people have really done is to run high power.

We could do the same--a tiny quadrifilar helix will work just fine with
100 watts.  A water cooled 2C39 easily does 100 watts on 1269
MHz.  But, from a safety standpoint, lower power and a bigger antenna
makes much more sense.

Zack KH6CP/1


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Randy Padawer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WANTED--Speaker for Radio Shack DX-160
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 12:49:11 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm looking for someone's old speaker for the Radio Shack Realistic
DX-160.  (No flames, please... It's not my primary receiver, heh.)  If
anyone has such a unit, please email me at [e-mail]

Thanks!

Randy Padawer, WA4FJF
[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (ML., Michigan, USA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WANTED: Ftp uploading test partner
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 20:03:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9tm7$[e-mail]>

Calling any station,

Do any hams have time to test ftp uploading.  I have WS_FTP and want to test
whether or not it can upload a small one line .txt file to your IP address.
Downloads work great, uploads is where the problems start.  Let me know via
email if you can help a fellow ham out

73, KB8VBA


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:04 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Martin)
Subject: WANTED: SCANNER AND RADIO MODS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:31:40 GMT

All:

Where can I find a REALLY good collection of Radio and Scanner
modifications?

David



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: "Donald J. Bensch Sr." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WANTED: SCANNER AND RADIO MODS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 03:54:14 GMT

David Martin wrote:
>
> All:
>
> Where can I find a REALLY good collection of Radio and Scanner
> modifications?
>
> David

  ftp://ftp.cs.buffalo.edu/pub/ham-radio/mods/
  ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/mods/
  gopher://hamster.business.uwo.ca

Try these sites...  If you come across any more please send back
the URL's.

  Don (N8YIR)


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:06 1996
From: [e-mail](S)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: 17 Mar 1996 00:54:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4ifnrs$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Peter Neidhardt) writes:
 I intermittenly pickup actual radio
>transmissions from overhead commercial airliners.  Does anyone have
any idea what causes this?  I thought
>Commerical Airline bands were totally different and not even close to
the
>FM bands.

You are receiving civilian air comms on the image frequency of your FM
RX.  The civ air band is 108-136 MHz.  Your FM RX tunes 88-108 and
probably uses a LO at (88->108)+ 10.7 MHz to convert down to an IF at
approximately 10.7 MHz.  This means that strong air signals at
approximately 2*10.7=21.4 MHz above the tuned FM band frequency will
come in.  Your radio is an FM RX, the air comms are AM, so audio may be
distorted or noisy.  Example...if a local tower uses say 120.1 MHz, you
might hear it at about 98.7.
                                        Jim



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary, DJ0MEQ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: 17 Mar 1996 12:19:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4igvvu$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>> Does anyone have any idea what causes this? I thought
Commercial Airline bands were totally different and not even close to
the
FM bands. <<

How close do you live to an airport?  Maybe it is a harmonic that your
radio is picking up.

Gary, DJ0MEQ

--
73 de Gary, DJ0MEQ
PBBS: DJ0MEQ@DB0HB.#HH.DEU.EU
Locator: JO43XO



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Lundgren)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: 19 Mar 1996 01:03:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4il14f$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4iisa8$[e-mail]>

I don't think there is any point in trying to make a silk purse out of a
sow's ear.  He should go get a decent radio receiver rather than try to
patch up a poor one.

Also, it may help more to decrease the signal strength rather than
increase it.

Anthony O. Cardenas ~ WA6IGJ ([e-mail]) penned:
: [e-mail] (Peter Neidhardt) wrote:

: >I own a cheap General Electric boombox... I am on a certain FM channel
: > I intermittenly pickup actual radio transmissions from overhead commercial

: >airliners...
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^snip -to-fit^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

: Paul,

: The aircraft band is right next door to broadcast fm music band.  ADD  your
: fm receiver's  'IF'- frequency (some times 20.x MHz or 10.xMHz) and with a
: strong enough signal from a aircraft right overhead, you may get a  "mix".

: Your aircraft can  'mix'  with your desired station +'IF'   and there you
: have it.  Often even more magic is involved... where two signals transmitt
: at the same time and mix down to your fm receiver.  Infact there is a very
: obscure program (no I don't have it) that calculates where the offending
: signals are and next is to build a filter to trap out at least one of the
: offenders.

: The cure?  Add a external FM Antenna... the better fm antennas look much
: like a TV Antenna, except the elements are almost all the same length...
: Use 300 ohm  'twin-line'  to feed the signal to the set.  Twist the
: twin-line as it passes from antenna, all the way to the set.

: What?   No screw terminals for the two wires?  Then try a random  'long
: wire'  antenna with a alligator clip on the business end and clip it to
: your whip antenna!  You may need to move the long wire around till you find
: the best signal.  This should provide a stronger signal from you FM station
: and hopefully swamp the front-end with 'desired' signal.


: Weinguard makes a FM PASS filter (75 ohm coax 'f' fittings)... this signal
: loves the  FM Brodcast band  and tries it's best to reject other signals
: above and below the band.   Cost, about $12, retail.  I can't vouch for the
: quality of a Radio Shack equiv.  More elabroate 'tunable'  'notch' filters
: can be had, but for lot's more money for one of quality.

: Hope this helps!

: Tony
: WA6IGJ



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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:11 1996
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
From: [e-mail] (Paul Grohe)
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Message-ID: <314e712d.11687875@139.187.128.43>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <[e-mail]> <4idjm1$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:52:05 GMT

Whoa guys!

We all agree that it is an image. That's a given!

But putting a bigger antenna on it won't help! If you were standing
next to a jet engine, would you cup your ears to hear it better? Or
would you cover your ears?

If it *is* causing non-linearities in the front-end, overloading it
even more is not going to help (why do you think they put the -20dB
switch on good receivers?).

Try *collapsing* the antenna, or move it around. I know it sounds
strange, but it does work. I lived directly under the path of SFO's
main runway for 20 years and I have experienced almost every type of
interference from airplanes. Cheap radios always received them. With
high quality receivers, you usually would hear a slight drop in audio
level. Like the noise, you just have to live with it. Cheap RFI
filters simply don't work.

The tuners front end contains the resonant circuit which is supposed
to favor the intended signal (101.7) and reject the un-intended ones
(123.1). In cheap radios, this circuit is not very good, so the
rejection (selectivity) goes to pieces. The quality of the IF stages
also has a lot to do with it.

If the radio has a image rejection of 20dB, that means that the
airplane signal has to be at least 100 times more powerful than the FM
station to "break through". Easy to do when the airplane is right
above your head and the FM station is 10 miles away! Capture ratio sez
it only takes a dB or two to override the intended signal. And it does
it!

Your best bet is to try another radio. Some *are* better than others.

On Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:06:42 -0600,
in newsgroup rec.radio.scanner,
Isaac Kohn <[e-mail]>
from Ripco Communications, Inc. thoughtfully posted:

>There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I
> checked!

They still are!

>How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
> transmissions???

FM detectors are capable of detecting AM signals through "Slope
Detection". In a nutshell: If you tune a FM detector off to one side,
you can detect AM. When a FM detector is tuned "dead-on", it will have
the most AM rejection. When it is tuned off resonance, to where the
signal is now riding up-and-down on the steeper outer slopes of the
detector curve, you create an AM detector (the detector curve is
"bell" shaped) Some cheap one IC AM/FM radios use the same detector
for both AM & FM, utilizing slope detection (Note that you have to
disable any AFT circuits, as they will attempt to follow the signal
and keep it centered).

Cheers,
Paul Grohe

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: 16 Mar 1996 05:30:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4idjm1$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (David Mark)


Commercial airline frequencies are just above the statndard FM
broadcast band.  Your radio probably has a "cheap" tuner that
doesn't just zero in on the desired frequency, but is subject to
interference on nearby frequencies when a transmitter operating on
those nearby frequencies is nearby (gee...how many more times could
I squeeze the word "nearby" into that sentence?).

What's happening is your radio is probably tuned to an FM station
near the upper end of the band (around 107-108mhz) and you're
probably under a flight path.  When a plane is nearby (there's
that word again) and the pilot transmits on one of the lower
airline frequencies, your radio's less than discriminating tuner
picks it up.
--
(DAVID MARK) [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dennis Nuetzel)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:26:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4imjob$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I
>checked!  How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
>transmissions???

   If close enough, it will.  I have picked up CB radio transmissions (Also
AM) on a nearby FM reciever.

>



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:14 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:14:59 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <RP2+ugAD$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Peter
Neidhardt <[e-mail]> writes
>Does anyone have any idea what causes this?  I thought
>Commerical Airline bands were totally different and not even close to the
>FM bands.

I probably won't know the exact answer due to your location not being in
my area!  However, are you in the proximity of an AGA (Air-Ground-Air)
station, used by Air Traffic Control for AGA communication?  If so then
it is simple breakthrough, as we tend to use quite high powers.

If you do not then I would put the radio up for auction, or patent it!

Regards ... Mike

Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
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VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:15 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:54:07 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <sWnjFFAfDxTxEwR$@g6iqm.demon.co.uk>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Isaac Kohn
<[e-mail]> writes
>checked!  How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
>transmissions???

Slope detection

Mike

Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
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VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:16 1996
From: "J. Guy Stalnaker" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:48:42 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <RP2+ugAD$[e-mail]> <4id03n$[e-mail]>

Hi all:

I'm a SW newbie and have found this entire thread highly instructive.  But lik
e any good
student after a professor's lecture I have a question.  Why do FM radios use t
his "image
frequency?"  Why not use circuitry that tunes directly into the desired freque
ncy?  In
other words, what's the image frequency used for and why?

Many thanks,

J. Guy Stalnaker

C. Wheeler wrote:

> Probably not "breakthrough" (whatever that is - a term for front end
> overload?).  It's most likely exlained with the answer to a common radio
> license test question - What is the most common reason for hearing air
> traffic on an FM broadcast receiver?  Answer: IMAGE RECEPTION.  This is
> the text book scenerio for images.
>
> What's an image? (for the person who orignally asked about this).  2
> times the intermediate frequency of your receiver, plus or minus the
> tuned frequency will give you the image (+/- depends on whether you have
> a hi or lo IF).  10.7 MHz is a very common IF in consumer FM radios.  2 x
> 10.7 = 21.4.  So if you are listening to a station at 101.5 you may hear
> nearby air traffic using 122.9.  Or 101.5 x (2 x 10.7) = 122.9.
>
> The front end of the receiver should attenuate most out of band signals
> before they get to the first mixer amp.  But a transmitter closeby could
> squeak through (OK - breakthrough).  The audio level is usually pretty
> low since the aviation service uses AM for voice comm but it can still be
> heard on a typical FM receiver.

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:18 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: 15 Mar 1996 23:56:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4id03n$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <RP2+ugAD$[e-mail]>

Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, Peter
>Neidhardt <[e-mail]> writes
>>Does anyone have any idea what causes this?  I thought
>>Commerical Airline bands were totally different and not even close to the
>>FM bands.

Actually, they're quite close - right next to eachother.  The VHF
aviation service starts right where FM broadcast ends.  108 to 136 MHz.

>
>I probably won't know the exact answer due to your location not being in
>my area!  However, are you in the proximity of an AGA (Air-Ground-Air)
>station, used by Air Traffic Control for AGA communication?  If so then
>it is simple breakthrough, as we tend to use quite high powers.
>

Probably not "breakthrough" (whatever that is - a term for front end
overload?).  It's most likely exlained with the answer to a common radio
license test question - What is the most common reason for hearing air
traffic on an FM broadcast receiver?  Answer: IMAGE RECEPTION.  This is
the text book scenerio for images.

What's an image? (for the person who orignally asked about this).  2
times the intermediate frequency of your receiver, plus or minus the
tuned frequency will give you the image (+/- depends on whether you have
a hi or lo IF).  10.7 MHz is a very common IF in consumer FM radios.  2 x
10.7 = 21.4.  So if you are listening to a station at 101.5 you may hear
nearby air traffic using 122.9.  Or 101.5 x (2 x 10.7) = 122.9.

The front end of the receiver should attenuate most out of band signals
before they get to the first mixer amp.  But a transmitter closeby could
squeak through (OK - breakthrough).  The audio level is usually pretty
low since the aviation service uses AM for voice comm but it can still be
heard on a typical FM receiver.




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:20 1996
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
From: [e-mail] (Steve Work)
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4imjob$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:32:53 GMT

Dennis Nuetzel ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I
: >checked!  How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
: >transmissions???

:    If close enough, it will.  I have picked up CB radio transmissions (Also
: AM) on a nearby FM reciever.

"AM rejection" is a spec which applies to FM radios.  It is worse on
cheaper ones.

The circuitry used to detect FM signals can respond to changes in the
amplitude.  Especially when the circuit is cheap, and under conditions
where it is overloaded.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Lundgren)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: 16 Mar 1996 15:33:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4ien10$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Peter Neidhardt ([e-mail]) penned:
: I own a cheap General Electric boombox (about a $100 in value) that is a
: few years old.  It works well but when I am on a certain FM channel
: listening to my favourite station, I intermittenly pickup actual radio
: transmissions from overhead commercial airliners.  These are actual
: commercial airline communiques to the tower and back.  I know it is
: because the pilot states the airline and other info. like heading and
: other number jumbo stuff.  This is a simple radio with no short wave or
: any extra bells or whistles and it works well except for the fact that
: every so often it interupts the music and I hear aircraft communication
: messages.  Does anyone have any idea what causes this?  I thought
: Commerical Airline bands were totally different and not even close to the
: FM bands.

: Thanks greatly!
: Peter

Commercial airline freqs are right above the FM band.  Your radio is
receiving an image freq and detecting it even to it's AM and not FM.  The
airplane is probably really close, maybe overhead.

Image freqs work something like this.  The IF of the radio is 10.7 MHz,
but let's just use 10 MHz.  The radio station is at 100 MHz.  The IF is
10, so the local oscillator is at 110 MHz.  The receiver can receive at
both the sum and difference of the two, so it can receive at either 100
MHz or 120 MHz.  The 120 MHz is (somewhat) tuned out by the receiver's
tuned circuits leaving the 100 MHz.  But sometimnes the receiver doesn't
do the tuning too well.  And sometimes the unwanted transmitter is real
close, so it gets thru anyway.

If youre using the built-in rabbit ears, make sure they are fully
extended.  If you are always in a certain area, the location may be
affecting the reception of your fav FM station, so try to maximize the
signal by changing the location.  You could also try reducing the signal
strength by putting the antenna in the collapsed position.  Maybe one of
these might help enough to eliminate your problem.

Another boombox might help, too.  I bought some cheap soundesign radio
in a bargain pack along with a flashlight and some batteries.  I liked it
because it received both FM and TV.  But the receiver is atrocious, and
receives all sorts of images of who knows what.  It really sucks, but
what can one expect when buying a radio and flashlight with batteries for
twenty bucks?  Not much, I guess.  The Renewal batteries suck, too. They
try to nail you later for the cost of the recharger!  Forget it.

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Shaffer, Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:14:13
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


In article <[e-mail]> Isaac Kohn <ikohn@vertex.u
cls.uchicago.edu> writes:
> There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I
> checked!  How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
> transmissions???

All you need to do to decode an AM signal is rectify it.  Any transistor
junction can act as a diode junction under the right circumstances.  I know
someone who gets nearby CB signals on his CD player -- no RF circuits at all,
it's being picked up in the audio amp.

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:12:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4is68q$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4idjm1$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <sWnjFFAfDxTxEwR$@g6iqm.demon.co.uk>

Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]> shared the following
priceless pearls of wisdom:

>In article <[e-mail]>, Isaac Kohn
><[e-mail]> writes
>>checked!  How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
>>transmissions???

>Slope detection

>Mike

Ummm...I came within a couple of milliseconds of falling into that
same trap.  Slope detection works for listening to FM on an AM rig;
going the other way around requires imbalance in the ratio detector or
discriminator -- not hard to do on a cheapie radio where the diode
bridge are random diodes thrown into the board.

Jim


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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you need for a 2 meter repeater
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:17:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4ipem3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (JA Glasscock) wrote:

>Does any body know what I need for starting a repeater, equipment wise? I
>want it to have an autopatch, and CTCSS tones to access it.
>_________________________________________
>|   Vance Glasscock                     |
>|  email @ [e-mail]            |
>|  with Vance Ham in the subject line   |
>-----------------------------------------

Start by ordering a book from ARRL.  "VHF Companion" for $8 + $4 S&H.

Tells about repeaters and where to get stuff.

73





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where do I send 610 form?
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:24:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4ipf41$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Michael Docy) wrote:

>Please tell me the address of the FCC to send my
>610 form. All it has on the 610 form is:
>Federal Communications Commission
>Gettysburg, Pennsylvania

>It seems that there should at least be a zip code.
>I tried http://www.fcc.gov but no luck finding any info.

>Thanks,
>Mike N8MIB

FCC
1270 Fairfield Road
Gettysburg
Pennsyvania  17325-7245

73





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:26 1996
From: [e-mail](Kevin Alfred Strom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Windmill Towers?
Date: 19 Mar 1996 09:40:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4ilvdu$[e-mail]>

Has anyone here ever disassembled / re-erected a windmill tower as an
antenna support or shunt-fed radiator? They are very common around here
in the Minnesota countryside and I suspect they could be had for a
song.

I like their fat footprint and built-in ladder, for obvious reasons,
but I might be overlooking some problems.

I am most interested in your thoughts!

Thanks, Kevin WB4AIO in Rochester, Minnesota


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Stroppel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Windmill Towers?
Date: 20 Mar 1996 17:26:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ipf3e$[e-mail]>
References: <4ilvdu$[e-mail]> <4ioequ$[e-mail]>

Around here there were even some till-over towers. These had a pivot point
about in the center. Lowered the head down to work on. I saw one an tried
to get it, but was on gov. land and the guy at Core of Eng. said it would
take an act of congress to get it. ( probably a buck and the right guy)

John WA0VYZ

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From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:28 1996
From: "A. john Gainsborough" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wisconsin Hamfests ?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:42:12 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

A friend of mine travels regularly to Wisconsin and is interested in
attending hamfests in that part of the country. Any suggestions that I
could pass on to him?

73, John KM6LJ


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:29 1996
From: Mike - KB9LPJ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wisconsin Hamfests ?
Date: 14 Mar 1996 16:04:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4i9g1q$[e-mail]>

"A. john Gainsborough" <[e-mail]> writes:
> A friend of mine travels regularly to Wisconsin and is interested in
> attending hamfests in that part of the country. Any suggestions that I
> could pass on to him?
>
> 73, John KM6LJ

Sir:

 I know of a hamfest in Superior WI on May 4.
 Here is the Info as printed in QST:

   Wisconsin Superior - May 4, 9am to 2pm.
   Sponsor: Arrowhead RAC. Multi Purpose Bldg,
   I-35 to US-2, Bong Bridge, left on Belknap,
   right on Tower, approx 2mi to Fairgrounds on
   left. VE session. Talk in 146.94/34. Admission
   $4

 If you need more info send me a e-mail.

 TNX 73's >> Mike DE KB9LPJ


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:30 1996
From: rew5808 <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb
Subject: wtb: allied, lafayette, and heathkit catalogs
Date: 13 Mar 1996 23:55:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4i7na2$[e-mail]>

looking for some hams to help me locate electronics catalogs from the mid
50's to mid 60's.

especially ALLIED ELECTRONICS, LAFAYETTE RADIO ELECTRONICS,  and
heathkit.

as a sidelite, i would also like to acquire a built or unbuilt 100mw
"Knight Kit" CB walkie talkie (from Allied Electronics i think).  It is
from about 1959 or 1960, case is blue, 4-transistor.

any help?????

bobby wb5wur





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dennis Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB: Heathkit HD-8999 Keyboard
Date: 17 Mar 1996 22:09:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ii2j3$[e-mail]>

I'm looking for a Heathkit CW Keyboard. If you have one, or know someone
that no longer needs theirs, PLEASE..

Email [e-mail]

Dennis..N0SAI..Colo.   TNX/73



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WWW Radio Pages
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:44:49 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

It nearly drove me mad doing it. It might not work on your browser,
but it does on mine (Netscape Gold 2):

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

Radio Pages - now with ADDED Java!

Enjoy, as they say.....
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Byrnes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-11R ... any
Date: 19 Mar 1996 18:20:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4imttn$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Mike Anderson ([e-mail]) wrote:

> I, too, am an FT-11R owner, and like it. It did, however, die one
> day. Fortunately it was under warranty and Yaesu replaced the CPU.
> Works fine now. As to the subaudible tones, I didn't know if you
> had CTCSS decode you could adjust the modulation. How do you do
> that?

If you have the optional FTS-26 board ($59), you can somehow adjust
the modulation from the keyboard (according to Yaesu Tech Support),
but I don't have the board or the documentation.


> I don't think I have a problem with too much modulation however.

If people don't report that you have a "hum", then you're probably okay.
Ask someone, they may just think you're driving a diesel :-)    And try
it on simplex since your local repeater may filter CTCSS.


John
KB0UNC



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Carl H Nord)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-11R ... anyone use this radio?
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 03:36:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4i7pi3$[e-mail]>
References: <4i55f3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

>Hello all,
>      I was wondering if anyone has used or owned the Yaesu FT-11R HT?
>Because of the great advice I received from other hams from this newsgroup,
>I have decided to get an HT.    Had a few questions:
>Any significant intermod problems?  Batt problems?  Can I use an external
>mike, antenna, etc?

>Thanks for any help!


I love mine. It is probably the 6th or 7th HT I have owned and by far
my favorite.
It is a nice size, covers the entire Aircraft and commercial VHF
bands, and just works well.
It has a lot of functions and you will simplify your life greatly if
you spring for the ADMS-1 computor inerface.
Carl
WA1KPD


>73's...

>- Bill
>  [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 21 14:08:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jospav)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-11R ... anyone use this radio?
Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:50:21 -0800
Message-ID: <4iasud$[e-mail]>
References: <4i9nnu$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Jospav)

Unless you really need the aircraft recieve of the ft-11, I would say you
should be looking at the ft-10. It has encode and decode of ctcss and man
other cool options such as a voice recorder that can be set to record
automatically after a page and respond with a prerecorded message etc.
There are just tons more features in the ft-10, some of which can be had
on an ft-11 as options, but that will make the ft-11 cost even more. As it
is now, the ft-10 is about $20-$30 cheaper where I have seen it, and it
has more than the ft-11 for that price. Oh, forgot the ft-10 is also the
first amateur HT to have a mil spec rating.

Just my 3 cents worth

Josh


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:38:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "C" in CW
Date: 23 Mar 1996 05:40:32 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j02sg$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Howard ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Problem:  Is the letter "C"  dah dit dah dit ?  I recently passed my 5wpm
: code test, and on my way to 13wpm.  But, 1 letter continuously bothers
: me....the letter "C" !!!!  My brother is an oldtimer Extra, but doesn't
: seem to understand the problem.  It is the rhythm that throws me.  It
: seems like there is a very slight, but distracting, pause after the first
: dah, so I usually copy it as "tr".  Obviously a very subtle pause?
: - -. -..-  -.. .  -.- . -.... .--. -... .-..
: --

Yep, it's _._.   Shouldn't be any 'subtle' pauses, but depending on who's
sending......... If you are listening to machine sent code, you are
imagining the pause.

Congatulations on the 5 wpm, and good luck on the 13.

Jim, KH2D



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:38:59 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: "Virtual Collins Radio Museum" web site
Date: 18 Mar 1996 03:01:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4iijm5$[e-mail]>

Just a note to let everyone know that the WA3KEY
"Virtual Collins Radio Museum" web site us up and
running.  There's still come construction going on
so don't mind the sawdust.  Here's the URL

  http://www.users.fast.net/~wa3key/collins.html

Any commments or suggestions are welcome.  Enjoy.

  73 de Norm - WA3KEY


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:38:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (W2EHD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 1.2 gHz Repeaters - need operator info. and experiences
Date: 21 Mar 1996 08:33:11 -0500
Message-ID: <4irlqn$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (W2EHD)

Some of us in the NE corner of New Jersey are investigating the
possibility of setting up a 1.2 gHz repeater.   We have the site but no
equipment, at this point.
We are soliciting anyone with experience on this band to give us their
thoughts and suggestions.   If you have any equipment available, you might
note that, too.
E-mail to W2EHD @aol.com or packet to [e-mail]

Many thanks -

Jack W2EHD
Closter NJ


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark A. Garrett)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 49Mhz Radio Shack Handheld
Date: 22 Mar 1996 06:06:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4itg19$[e-mail]>
References: <4iaohl$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Mark A. Garrett)


In a previous article, [e-mail] (God) says:

>I saw a mod in the oakland archives from a WHILE back mentioning that it was
>possible to mod the radio shack 49Mhz walkie talkies for the 6 meter band.
>Does anyone have any details on this? The oakland archives go dry after only
a
>teaser.
>
>thanks
>
Yes, the single channel units can be converted to 6 meters with a crystal
change and tuneup.  Crystals are fundamental X3 for transmit and for the
receive is receive frequency -10.7 = fundamental.   Standard 30 pf loading
on the crystal and 25 temp range seem to work ok with the units.  Jan
crystals has supplied me with several crystals for conversion.
--
Mark Garrett   [e-mail]
               KA9SZX @ N9LNQ.#ECIL.IL.USA.NOAM


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: A Question
From: [e-mail] (Lisa Keeton)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Mar 96 09:00:00 PDT

   I just saw this cruising across the Electronic Void:
                 snipped to save bandwidth>

BR>Used to be that if you were a ham, everyone knew you were an
BR>honorable hard-working
BR>person. Today a ham might be an idiot drunk who cusses all night on 75m SSB
BR>with impunity
BR>thanks to our toothless FCC and general societal collapse. What can be
BR>next?

   Hmmmm... I'm a new Ham, so please excuse my naivette <sp?> when I
   ask this, since my experiences have so far been good ones... It seems
   to me that, if someone doesn't want to be a party to breaking the
   law, they won't associate with those that do. Are you saying there
   are *that* many Hams out there that will converse with a 'potty
   mouth'? Are there that many Hams that are willing to condone this
   obviously illegal practice by participating in it? If the FCC can't
   or won't do anything about it, wouldn't it be fitting for *us* to
   *all* isolate these lids by *completely* ignoring them and refusing
   to communicate with them?

   Or am I so old-fasioned in thinking we can work together to make a
   difference that everyone will just laugh at me?

   Maybe I picked the wrong hobby...  <sigh>

   Lisa KC7PSZ


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Profanity: Linguistic crutch of inarticulate fools


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:03 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: 23 Mar 1996 20:00:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4j1l8f$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>   [e-mail] (Lisa Keeton) writes:

>
>     Hmmmm... I'm a new Ham, so please excuse my naivette <sp?> when I
>     ask this, since my experiences have so far been good ones... It seems
>     to me that, if someone doesn't want to be a party to breaking the
>     law, they won't associate with those that do. Are you saying there
>     are *that* many Hams out there that will converse with a 'potty
>     mouth'? Are there that many Hams that are willing to condone this
>     obviously illegal practice by participating in it? If the FCC can't
>     or won't do anything about it, wouldn't it be fitting for *us* to
>     *all* isolate these lids by *completely* ignoring them and refusing
>     to communicate with them?
>
>     Or am I so old-fasioned in thinking we can work together to make a
>     difference that everyone will just laugh at me?
>
>     Maybe I picked the wrong hobby...  <sigh>
>
>     Lisa KC7PSZ

Welcome, Lisa and you bring up a very good point.  You must acknowledge that n
o matter
how good something is there will always be the proverbial BAD APPLES...just lo
ok at congress!!!

For the most part, the baddies keep to them selves in several well publicized
frequencies.  The vast VAST
majority of amateurs ignore them.  It's like a repeater..you can't keep everyo
ne off, so just
ignore those that show poor judgement.

In otherwords, you can't live without em and you can't kill 'em

Enjoy the hobby, it's tons O fun

73, steve

No code or KNOW code...who cares there's room enuf for everyone, even the guys
 from
Sunny Central Florida and that piece of land named after a fishie piece of ove
rclothing


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:05 1996
From: fiz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations...here's proof of interference
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:25:19 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4hd526$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Steve Sampson wrote:
>
> Jeffrey Towle wrote:
> > The regulations against using handhelds on the aircraft are
> > comparable to fears about walking under ladders, or stepping on
> > cracks in the sidewalk. ...
>
> You'd be surprised what a malfunctioning radio can produce, and still
> be communicating.  A friend bought one of those MFJ analyzers and was
> testing everones rubber-duck.  He said one of the guys antenna was an
> open!  It was that way for years.  He said with a new antenna, the whole
> dang city can be heard...
>

I don't think it even has to be a malfunctioning radio. Here's a real
story that involved me this past weekend.

I'm a pilot and like to fly gliders. I was in the 'office' of our gliderport
and the office radio was tuned to 123.3 MHz (AM), our air/ground frequency.
I turned my 2 meter HT on and keyed the mike to contact someone on a local
repeater (147.360+). The squelch broke on the aircraft radio. My HT, in good
working order, apparantly interfers with aircraft radios. The aircraft
I fly have navigation receivers in the 112-116 MHz region which my HT could
likely cause to go bonkers. If/when I'm instrument rated, ALL non-aircraft
electronics (receivers and transmitters alike) *WILL* be turned off if I'm fly
ing
IFR. If the passenger doesn't like it, they can get out, right there, right th
en.
BTW, I was using a Larsen HT antenna thats a bit, but not much, more than a ru
bber
duck, its got about a 6 inch coil with a 6 inch whip on top.

Will I take my passengers word their HT is in 'good working order' and 'rumors
of interference are no more than like stepping on cracks in the sidewalk'...He
ll
no if I'm in a cloud relying on the instruments...

"I'M THE PILOT IN <BOLD> COMMAND </BOLD>"...

ttfn  fiz (KG0YG, PP-Glider,ASEL)


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (D Gary Grady)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,sci.lang,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Alpha Bravo phonetics: the quickie version
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:57:31 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4in759$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>An earlier alphabet (used by U.S. Navy up to 1954):
>
>   Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King
>   Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor
>   William X-ray Yoke Zebra

A holdover from this earlier alphabet can be noted in the names of
"conditions" used to specify what doors and hatchers are secured for
purposes of watertight integrity.

During condition X-ray (the normal one) all openings labeled with an X
are closed (unless they need to be opened temporarilyfor access) while
the others are left open to make it easy to move about the ship. At
condition Yoke, all openings labeled X and Y are closed, and at
condition Zebra all doors and hatches are closed. Condition Zebra is
"set" during battle stations.

D Gary Grady
Durham NC USA
[e-mail] / [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:06 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: Bill <[e-mail]>
Date: 13 Mar 96 16:33:14 CST
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:08 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLP012 Propagation de KT7H
Date: 22 Mar 1996 16:54:51 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP012
ARLP012 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP33
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 12  ARLP012
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  March 22, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP012
ARLP012 Propagation de KT7H

Solar activity remained low, about the same level as the previous
week.  There was a rise in geomagnetic activity in the past few
days, with K indices as high as five.  Another rise in geomagnetic
activity is expected around April 7 through 9 due to a recurring
coronal hole.

Solar flux should remain flat with little variation over the next
month.  Currently at the Spring equinox we are experiencing some
seasonal improvement in HF communication.  Too bad the solar flux
isn't higher.  Spring of 1998 should be much improved.

Sunspot Numbers for March 7 through 13 were 17, 15, 15, 12, 11, 11
and 0, with a mean of 11.6.  10.7 cm flux was 70.8, 70.4, 71, 70.6,
70.6, 69.9 and 69.3, with a mean of 70.4.

The path projections for this week are from the west coast of the
U.S. to Western Europe, Southern Africa, South America, South
Pacific and Japan.

To Western Europe look for 80 meters to open from 0230 to 0630z, 40
meters from 0130 to 0800z and 30 meters around 2300 and 0700z.  20
meters looks good from 1500 to 2000z, and 17 meters around 1800z.

To Southern Africa expect 80 to open from 0230 to 0400, 40 from 0130
to 0430, 30 from 0030 to 0230 and 0430 to 0530, 20 from 2200 to
0000, and 17 from 1700 to 1930.

To South America check 80 from 0200 to 1000, 40 from 0130 to 1030,
30 from 0030 to 0800 and again from 1000 to 1130, 20 from 2130 to
0430, 17 from 1600 to 0300 and 15 from 1730 to 0100 and 12 meters
from 2030 to 2200.

To South Pacific 80 should open from 0530 to 1430, 40 from 0430 to
1500, 30 from 0330 to 1430, 20 around 1700 to 2000 and 0100 to 0600,
17 from 1730 to 0430, 15 from 1800 to 0300, and 12 meters from 2030
to 0100.  10 meters could have some openings over the same period as
12 meters.

To Japan check 80 from 0900 to 1430, 40 from 0800 to 1530, 30 from
0630 to 1700 with a week period around 1230 to 1330, 20 from 2100 to
0500, 17 from 2130 to 0400 and 15 from 2230 to 0200.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL Code Practice on 2 meters
Date: 21 Mar 1996 09:55:28 -0500
Message-ID: <4irql0$[e-mail]>
References: <4int53$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
: I have a question.

: I have an FM HT and live in cincinnati, OH.  Is there any way I can
: listen to ARRL code practice on it? Do I need a SSB rig or am I just
: too far away from W1AW?

  Be sure to check with local hams to see if there may be code practice
sessions conducted on a local 2-meter station (probably a repeater, if
anyone does it).  Many places a repeater club sponsors such sessions.

  SSB sw receivers aren't too expensive at hamfests.  You don't need
a rig to get W1AW practice transmissions.

  GL and 73

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:10 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Steven Jepsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:47:10 +0000
References: <4ik94t$[e-mail]> <4in20j$[e-mail]> <4invm3$[e-mail]>
To: Drew Durigan <[e-mail]>

>>Drew Durigan wrote:
> STUFF DELETED
>> How about old guys who insist on demonstrating knowledge of an 1800's
>> communications technology (Morse Code) in order to receive an amateur
>> license with full privileges in 1996?
>
> Doesn't make sense to me, either.
>
> -Drew in Sunny Central Florida-
>  KF4DDM

You wrote this message using an even older technology (the written word). Whic
h you are
required to show not just knowlege of but proficiency in to complete school.
If a technology is in common use, it's age isn't important. If you don't think
 Morse Code
is in common use, then you need a better receiver.

Steve ... AI7W



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:11 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Car`s and EMC.
Date: 20 Mar 1996 22:05:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4ipveh$[e-mail]>

Hi,

I have just moved to the Puget Sound Area from GM`land and
need to buy a car. I like to run HF & VHF mobile and so EMC
will play a part in my decision making process.

I seem to recall an article in QST about a year ago, going into
this in a reasonable amount of detail.

o Does anyone know if there is a FAQ for this subject i.e.
   good and bad manufacturers?

I`m not sure which way I am going to go but it will be either a SUV
eg.  Blazer, Explorer, Cherokee or a Sedan, like Accord or Camry
does anyone have any recommendations or comments on these
popular models.

Any pointers or advice would be gratefully received.

73`s

Robin Alexander
 K7/GM4YED



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Longwell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Car`s and EMC.
Date: 23 Mar 1996 01:34:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I just got a Blazer.  I like it, but it emits a bit of noise.  I think I'll be

able to get it under control with some work.  Right now it's mostly annoying
an masks less than strong signals on some bands.

Brian Longwell
WB2DSH


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:13 1996
From: "William M. Bickley KF2ON" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Central NJ Hamfest - Sunday 3/24/96
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:23:24 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

HAMFEST! - New Jersey (Trenton) - Delaware Valley Radio Association.
Sunday, March 24th - rain or shine.  Vendor setup 6:30am; public 7:30am
to 2:00pm.  Trenton State College Student Recreation Center - Route 31
approx. 1 mile south of I-95/Route 31 exit.  Admission $5.00; Tailgaters
$10.00 (includes space and admission);  Inside Vendors $20.00 (includes
space and admission).  Free parking; refreshments; handicapped
accessible.  Talk-in 146.67 and 442.650.  For info, call DVRA hotline at
[phone].


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CW history on Radio Show
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 19:33:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4iuvbd$[e-mail]>

Bette Clemons, author of Wake of the Wirelessman, will be the special guest
this Sunday, 3/24/96, at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc, on the Ham Radio & More Radio
Show. Bette's book discusses her father's history working for the early
Marconi Company and the beginnings of CW. The show can be heard on many local
stations throughout the US as well as live on WWCR shortwave, 5.065mhz.

Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html

The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country.
ALSO: LIVE everywhere on WWCR shortwave, 100,000 watts, 5.065mhz, and starting
 4/7/96 ALSO LIVE on 7.435mhz.

The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon
days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160.


Support "WOG". Written only General!!!






From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:15 1996
From: "C. J. Hawley" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dayton tailgating still available?
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:53:03 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ipm7p$[e-mail]> <4irvlu$[e-mail]>

Warren Ring wrote:
>
> In article <4ipm7p$[e-mail]>,
> John Boteler <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Don't laugh too hard, but is it too late to get a space
> >at Dayton, or is it way too late?
>
> I heard that the swap-meet spaces are sold out.  However, I also
> heard that you might be able to pick up a space by asking for
> one in the right newsgroup.  Maybe this one.
>
> There must be scalpers out there someplace.

By the way, the rules state that you are supposed to return the space to
the hamvention for a refund. The trouble is that a friend of mine did
just this last year to follow the rules, etc. and he like to never got
his money back. The dummies make it so hard to follow the rules that he
is never going to again.
Just my input.

Chuck, KE9UW




From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:16 1996
From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:46:24 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4iossi$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "David" writes:

> Also does the class A and B test involve any practical work. I've been told
hat
>  you have to strip down and rebuild a radio. I know you have to get some
>  electrical parts.

No - in order to get a Class B licence you must pass a 2-part multiple
choice (or is that multiple guess?) test on theory and regulations.
That's all.

In order to get a Class A licence you must pass the same test, plus a
12 wpm morse test.

A few hours study of the licence conditions should see you safely through
part 1 (regulations). Anybody with a remotely electrical/electronic
background should breeze through part 2 (theory).

There's also a Novice licence which *does* involve some practical work
under the guidance of an instructor, but since you've indicated that
time is a problem, the full licence seems more appropriate.

Good Luck!

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Bathgate)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: dont buy from REVEAL
Date: 21 Mar 1996 09:00:21 -0500
Message-ID: <4irndl$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: Paul Reedy <[e-mail]>


Roger Cole wrote:
> Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with
 a
> technical problem?  I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to

I spend 3 days trying to reach their tech support human, I needed an RMA# for
a defective hard disk that would be out of warranty in 3 days...  I must have
called 50 times to hear a busy signal, finally it started ringing, rang for
12 minutes, SOMEBODY PICKED IT UP AND IMMEDIATELY HUNG UP!!! I went berzerk!

I emailed every permutation of reveal.com, I was intentionally trying to spam
their email and ANGER some people as to how HOW BAD THEIR RMA SYSTEM IS!
and finally ended up with a name:
[e-mail]   You can also email [e-mail] if you dont
get any response.

Good luck.  I FINALLY got my rma#, mailed my failed hard disk back, 25 days
later I recieved a replacement drive, WHICH WAS USED!!!  AND ONLY WORKED 1
WEEK AND IT TOO DIED!

I went out and bought a Western Digital from a local computer dealer/servicer.
I have worked in the computer industry for 8 years, and never replaced a bad
Western Digital hard disk!  I have pulled so many seagates and conners that
I could have used them as bricks and built a dog house!

73

Ed N3SDO
[e-mail]  Ed Bathgate
The opinion expressed here is mine, and not my employers!



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Cogan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DX GROUP RE-UNION IN SYDNEY
Date: 22 Mar 1996 06:24:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4ith2n$[e-mail]>

If you were a member, or know of anyone who
was a member of the ham radion club "The
DX Group" in the 70's let me know.

There is going to be a re-union around
the 14th of April.

Dave Cogan
email address is [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:20 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:58:21 -0600
From: Paul Reedy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
To: Roger Cole <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL?
References: <[e-mail]>

Roger Cole wrote:
>
> Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with
 a
> technical problem?  I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to
> leave a message.  Thanks....Roger

Reveal was bought out by Creative Labs, try them.


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:20 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:00:17 -0600
From: Paul Reedy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
To: Roger Cole <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL?
References: <[e-mail]>

Roger Cole wrote:
>
> Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with
 a
> technical problem?  I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to
> leave a message.  Thanks....Roger

Reveal was bought out by Creative Labs, try them.


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:21 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:00:46 -0600
From: Paul Reedy <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
To: Roger Cole <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL?
References: <[e-mail]>

Roger Cole wrote:
>
> Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with
 a
> technical problem?  I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to
> leave a message.  Thanks....Roger

Reveal was bought out by Creative Labs, try them.


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:22 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: 21 Mar 1996 00:10:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4iq6pb$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
>>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
>>Telephony software ILLEGAL.
>
>Get a clue!  The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not
>utilize radio frequency spectrum.  They cannot "create" jurisdiction over
>something that is not within their domain.

Here's a clue, Drew:

The FCC does have jurisdiction over common carriers (which carry most
internet traffic).  And they set the rules as to how private networks
connect to the public network.

In fact the FCC probably spends as much time dealing with non radio
communications issues as they do with radio.

And all it takes is congress to create more jurisdication if the FCC
doesn't already have it.





From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:23 1996
Date: 20 Mar 1996 13:10:48 EDT
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (William Coyle)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Subject: For sale


For sale:
Radio shack HTX 202
2 meter handheld.
In good condition (one small scratch on front)
Have Box, not manual (can get at Radio shack)
Nicad & AA cell holder, wall charger.

Best offer including shipping.

E-mail reply to this message.


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Meinken)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:51:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world
References: <[e-mail]> <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <199

GC>From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
.....
GC>QRP operating is very stressful, you're the little yip dog surrounded
GC>by a herd of hippos. It's a huge challenge because you've deliberately
GC>placed yourself at a huge disadvantage. To make up for the power
GC>disadvantage, you have to squeeze every last nanowatt out of your
GC>antenna system and you have to outfox both the ionosphere and your
GC>competitors. It's far from "simple".
GC>
....
GC>It seems to me that if the goal is to run minimum power, you'd want
GC>to take advantage of every technique available to make the most of
GC>what you have. One of the best and cheapest ways to do that is to use
GC>an improved coding and modulation. Especially in the field where you'r
GC>further handicapped by relatively poor antennas, it would seem that
GC>taking advantage of the 13 db or more of processing gain you can achie
GC>with better codes and modulations would be a big help.
GC>
......
GC>Gary


Gary,

pardon me if I missed this, but what "codes and modulation" techniques
cheaply provide 13 db of gain over cw?

I also fail to understand why you feel QRP is more "stressful"...either
you work somebody, or you don't, just as if you were running 100 watts, or
a KW.  Actually, if there is any "stress" involved, I would think it would
be on the other end of the QSO, the person who is trying to copy the weak
station.  If I'm running 100 watts and someone running 200 mw answers my
CQ, I'm the one working hard to copy them through the noise.  The QRP op
probably has armchair copy.

73, Ken WA8JXM

--- WinQwk 2.0 a#0


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:26 1996
From: alt.radio <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS  MFJ 941D Tuner
Date: 20 Mar 1996 00:13:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4iniih$ba5$[e-mail]>

Sir for misprint.  This is a 941D Versa Tuner 300W.  Jeff/WB3DLG
203-748-4096.


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jack Kovar  KE0AX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT-51r lost it's brains ???
Date: 21 Mar 1996 19:20:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4isa6a$[e-mail]>

        Anyone else have problems with FT51r loosing it's memories????
        I have two of them and they get miminal use.
        not sure of a trend yet.
        One has transmitt mod and one not touched yet.
        The one with the transmit mod has lost its memories a few times.
        The one without mod have worked fine.
        Anyone else have similar problems?
        Anyone turn on radio and reset memories by mistake?
        Wife uses memory loss radio.
        Could be related to the memory loss I had when I forgot her birthday!


        PLEASE REPLY WITH YOUR EXPERIENCES TO:   Jack Kovar
                                                 [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:28 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:50:46 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clin
t Bradford) writes:
>
>The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest
>wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer
>to become a Volunteer Examiner, and give you your Amateur test.
>
>Does this bother anyone? Or am I simply getting too conservative in my
>old age?

Well it takes at least 3 conspiring licensed amateurs (who may work
for a dealer) and a cooperative VEC to produce a fraudulent exam
session. There's a risk here, but I don't think it's a large one.
I suspect the risk is no larger than for club members to give exams
to other club members, which has been allowed all along.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:29 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff
Date: 20 Mar 1996 05:26:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4io4v1$[e-mail]>
References: <4i49qb$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4ik6j2$[e-mail]>

[e-mail](Jon Shay ) wrote:
>In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dick Hughes)
>writes:
>>
>>[e-mail] (James Moore) wrote:

>>>     If interested call 1 800 996-2971

>>I noticed this same post in rec.motorcycles.  Must have a lot of
>>stuff!  I think he is playing with us.
>
>I think the CLUE here is 1-800......"Sure I'm gonna pay for a 1-800
>service so I can sell my grandfathers junk"....To heck with a YARD SALE
>that would'nt cost a dime!

From calling the number myself (since I heard it was O.O.S.) and listening
to the OOS announcement, it sounds like a paging terminal.  Probably a
personal 800 number from Skytel or other carrier.  Perhaps the poster
discovered it was not a wise move to publish his pager number here after
he got flooded with calls (like the one I just made) and changed it.



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:29 1996
From: [e-mail](Jon Shay )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff
Date: 18 Mar 1996 17:30:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4ik6j2$[e-mail]>
References: <4i49qb$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dick Hughes)
writes:
>
>[e-mail] (James Moore) wrote:
>
>>
>>      GrandFather passed and left 2 garages full of stuff.
>>
>>      GrandMother wants rid of it.
>>
>>      If interested call 1 800 996-2971
>>
>>      Thank You
>>
>
>I noticed this same post in rec.motorcycles.  Must have a lot of
>stuff!  I think he is playing with us.
>
>Dick Hughes

I think the CLUE here is 1-800......"Sure I'm gonna pay for a 1-800
service so I can sell my grandfathers junk"....To heck with a YARD SALE
that would'nt cost a dime!


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Francis A. Ney, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham radio at the Olympic Games
Date: 20 Mar 1996 13:21:49 -0500
Message-ID: <znr827342712k@Digex>
References: <4in2uh$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]


In article <4in2uh$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

> Hey, I appreciate this, I really do.  I just happen to think that selectivel
y
> excluding certain kinds of radios, if that is indeed being done, tends
> to undermine the validity of this argument.  If amateurs are told not
> to carry handie-talkies, but non-amateurs are permitted to carry
> cellular telephones, I really have to question the "logic" behind
> the decision.

This has been my point every time a certain gun show in Virginia does this.

---
Frank Ney  WV/EMT-B VA/EMT-A  N4ZHG  LPWV  NRA(L) GOA CCRKBA JPFO
Sponsor, BATF Abuse page  http://www.access.digex.net/~croaker/batfabus.html
West Virginia Coordinator, Libertarian Second Amendment Caucus
"[E]lections amount to no more than choosing between the scum that floats to
the top of the barrel and the dregs that settle to the bottom."
                        - L. Neil Smith



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Battles, WS1O, New Britain, CT USA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham radio at the Olympic Games
Date: 19 Mar 1996 12:15:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4im8hl$[e-mail]>


Well, I figured I may as well make a comment or two here...   8-)

In article <4htge7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] done said...
>
>In <4hqq5o$[e-mail]>, Don Schreiner <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>If Atlanta is asking for Amateur Radio help for the Olympics, but
>>simultaneously disallowing radios, this could put a crimp in communication.

>I think hams shouldn't help them until they lift that silly rule. If they
>want our help, they should let us bring our radios and such into the
>stadium.

  I thought I'd plunk down into the middle of this gentlemanly discussion, fee
ling somewhat qualified to
open my trap since I was Deputy Commissioner of Communications at the 1995 Spe
cial Olympics World Games last
July in New Haven, Connecticut. I was responsible for all aspects of ham activ
ities, and ultimately
"boss" of more than 500 volunteers.

  Believe me, an event of that size, which was the largest scheduled event in
the world in '95, was a
communication nightmare. Most of the RF systems were provided by the Departmen
t of Defense, and that made
sense, since the event brought out delegates from almost every country, and ev
en our President and his
family. The last thing I wanted was to be asked to provide ham radio communica
tion in any potentially
critical areas where commercial two-way radio systems could provide equal or b
etter functionality, and
ensure that hams wouldn't be blamed if anything distastrous did happen!

  Actually, we were pressed into action in several areas that had not been pla
nned in advance, and we kept
our main operations "separate" from the routine official communication; ie, we
 ran two NTS traffic booths
and a nice special-event station on the main midway, and provided ATV for the
sailing events.

  Now, there sure is a lot of differenec between Special Olympics and "plain,
old, regular" Olympics,
particularly money and media coverage, but I advise any who plan to participat
e to keep in mind a few key
points:

  1) Hams are NOT the focus of the event--it's about athletics and politics.
  2) No matter how much time, talk and money goes into planning, behind the sc
enes it's guaranteed to
resemble a completely insane, chaotic zoo, once things get going. (During the
Special Olympics, from the
management level on down, we had an affectionate buzzword for the entire event
: "Massive Clusterfu--.")
  3) Don't wait for anyone from the Olympics to answer any questions. When we
waited for Special Olympics
bureaucrats to make any kind of trivial decisions, we may as well have dropped
 dead. When something really
needed to get done, we just acted like we knew what we were doing and we did i
t. Period.
  4) Most of the organizers don't have a clue about Amateur Radio. Don't worry
 about that. Ignore that.
There will be a few people who do know about ham radio, and if they're know en
ough to ask for hams'
assistance, they'll ask. Otherwise, don't bother beating your head against the
 wall.
  5) If you are asked to provide any communication service, either (A) Refuse
to accept any position where
you're in charge of anything, or (B) Stock up on Prozac, Valium and Jack Danie
l's.
  6) You may find that your most valuable contribution comes in manning commer
cial-band radio gear, and
never emit a peep on the hams bands. Fine. So what? The key is to show 'em tha
t amateurs Know What They're
Doing.
  7) After more than a year of advance planning for the week of the World Game
s, there was still a TON of
stuff we didn't, nor could have, planned for. This is a MASSIVE undertaking, a
nd you sure shouldn't expect
to be viewed as a major part of it.
  8) Don't whine about it if they don't want random amateurs--and anyone else-
-wandering around with
hand-held radios, scanners, etc, on their persons. The RF situation can be tru
ly chaos even with what they
"plan" for; no need to add to it. We had to coordinate--and prevent interefere
nce
between--commercial/government frequencies, Secret Service, FBI, police, fire,
 ambulance, cellular,
etc...including dozens of temporary repeaters and other junque. It wasn't easy
 and it wasn't fun.
  8) Hams are NOT the focus of the event--it's about athletics and politics.

  I don't feel like going into a ton more detail about philosophy and the poli
tics of such an event, but if
anyone can think of any specific technical or operational question that they n
eed answered, and believe that
my experience may be worth the electrons it's carried on, drop me a note or gi
ve me a call.

  Meanwhile, good luck to all, and success to the athletes and volunteers at t
he 1996 Olympic Games in
Atlanta!

  --73 de BB, WS1O

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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Thomas WU)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help on building a SSB transceiver
Date: 21 Mar 1996 12:52:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4irjeq$[e-mail]>

hi people...

I need some help on building a SSB transceiver, I have the

design, but I need to do some modifications to it, and I don't know how

I have to modify the VFO to a larger range, and the BPF to a larger

range too...


So anybody would help me, please mail me at the following addresses...

please.... thanx!!

--

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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:35 1996
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help! Where should I send checklog for French contest '96?
Date: 21 Mar 1996 17:47:50 +0300
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>





From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Shawkang Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help: unlicensed bands
Date: 18 Mar 1996 14:52:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4ijtbu$[e-mail]>

I need to find a list of showing all the unlicensed bands in the U.S.,
Europe, and Asia.  I was told that the ones in U.S. are listed in part 15 of
the Code of Federal Regulations.  But I have had no luck in the local public
libraries due to the mass volumes of the document.
For those in Europe and Asia, I don't even have a clue as to where to start.
Any info would be appreciated.
Please send me email at: [e-mail].
Thanks.

shawkang wu



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:38 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:59:03 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <lui-2103962251280001@192.0.2.1>


In Article<lui-2103962251280001@192.0.2.1>, <[e-mail]> writes:
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Path: news.halcyon.com!nwnews.wa.com!uw-coco!uw-beaver!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.
ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2
.uu.net!hodes.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.n
etcom.com!netcom.com!NewsWatcher!user
> From: [e-mail] (Stephen Lui)
> Subject: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile
> Message-ID: <lui-2103962251280001@192.0.2.1>
> Sender: [e-mail]
> Organization: Netcom
> X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b4
> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 06:51:09 GMT
> Lines: 27
> Xref: news.halcyon.com rec.radio.amateur.equipment:28192 rec.radio.amateur.m
isc:99104
>
> I've enjoyed using my Icom IC-Z1A dual-band HT and have been looking at
> dual-band amplifiers. I seem to need a bit more power when using the HT in
> my car, using a MFJ-1724B magmount antenna. My HT puts out 5W on 2M and 7W
> on 70cm when connected to 13.5V.
>
> I could buy a high gain antenna, but I really don't want a 5 foot antenna
> on my car!
>
> RF Concepts has a 2M/70cm amp (Model 2/70G) which outputs 30W/20W for 5
> watts in for $259 and has a built-in receive preamp as well. How will the
> HT and the amp compare to a dual-band mobile unit?
>
> The power may be comparable, and the amp also improves received signals,
> but how will the performance compare with a dual-band mobile? Does the RF
> Concepts dual-band amp have any band pass filters to reduce intermod?
>
> I do connect my HT to a Radio Shack Discone antenna at home and don't seem
> to have much of a problem with intermod. I know the discone isn't a high
> gain antenna, but it is definitely better than the rubber duckie!
>
> I like all of the features of my HT and I probably have to buy something
> like a Yaesu FT-8500 ($680) to get comparable features (alphanumerics are
> high on my priority list). I like the ICOM IC-2000H ($300), but it is only
> a 2M radio.
>
> Stephen
> KF6BTE

Hi Stephen,

My suggestion is to skip the dual band amp.  You will be better off with a
real dual band mobile radio.  With a mobile radio your radio is always ready
to go in the car (no hooking it up to external antenna and power).  Your hand
held is always ready to be taken in your coat pocket.

A handheld does not have the best immunity in the receiver.  You will
experience more intermod when using the handheld in your car on an external
antenna.

Bill



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:39 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <lui-2103962251280001@192.0.2.1>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:42:54 GMT

In article <lui-2103962251280001@192.0.2.1> [e-mail] (Stephen Lui) write
s:
>I've enjoyed using my Icom IC-Z1A dual-band HT and have been looking at
>dual-band amplifiers. I seem to need a bit more power when using the HT in
>my car, using a MFJ-1724B magmount antenna. My HT puts out 5W on 2M and 7W
>on 70cm when connected to 13.5V.
>
>I could buy a high gain antenna, but I really don't want a 5 foot antenna
>on my car!
>
>RF Concepts has a 2M/70cm amp (Model 2/70G) which outputs 30W/20W for 5
>watts in for $259 and has a built-in receive preamp as well. How will the
>HT and the amp compare to a dual-band mobile unit?

Not favorably. Think of the tangle of cables, the still poor audio
output, and the almost certainty of overload and intermod problems
with the HT plus preamp.

>The power may be comparable, and the amp also improves received signals,
>but how will the performance compare with a dual-band mobile? Does the RF
>Concepts dual-band amp have any band pass filters to reduce intermod?

No, there are no filters limiting intermod included, and the preamp will
only make it worse. Your HT is already too sensitive thanks to being designed
to work with a rubber dummy load.

>I do connect my HT to a Radio Shack Discone antenna at home and don't seem
>to have much of a problem with intermod. I know the discone isn't a high
>gain antenna, but it is definitely better than the rubber duckie!

Barely. :-)  The main advantage is height, which is certainly not
inconsequential, but doesn't fully make up for the lack of gain.

>I like all of the features of my HT and I probably have to buy something
>like a Yaesu FT-8500 ($680) to get comparable features (alphanumerics are
>high on my priority list). I like the ICOM IC-2000H ($300), but it is only
>a 2M radio.

Ouch. Yes, if bells and whistles are more important than solid
communications capabilities, you're going to have to spend a ton
on a mobile rig. But if you're more interested in good communications
performance, there are alternatives which will work much better than
a HT and an amp, while not costing more than the combination of a
HT and an amp. The Yaesu FT-8500 is actually a pretty good ham rig,
despite the bells and whistles, but a Motorola Mitrek would be better,
and cost less than $100 (or a MIcor for $50, or a GE Mastr II for $75).
With the change, you could also buy a scanner if you just have to have
that capability.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:40 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Kristin Rachael Hayward)
Subject: Re: I moved...HELP!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:37:06 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
 (Nat Hooper) writes:
:Hello,
:
:I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new
:callsign.
:
:Can anyone tell me how to go about it? I 've had an 'advanced' ticket
:since 1988.
:
:Thank you,
:





Well, you *do* need to notify the FCC of your new address. This is
done using form 610 and attaching a copy of your license. However, you
do *not* need to change your call simply to reflect the fact that you
live in a different region. However, if you *want* a call that is like
your neighbor's call, then you need to check the box on the 610
indicating that you want a new call sign to be issued.

--
                      Kristin Rachael Hayward
    Director of Administrative Information Systems and Business Services
                        University of Maine
                http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nat Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: I moved...HELP!
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:31:23 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello,

I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new
callsign.

Can anyone tell me how to go about it? I 've had an 'advanced' ticket
since 1988.

Thank you,

--
Nat Hooper   (WD4BJB)
Oxford, Arkansas





From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:41 1996
From: Pierre Thomson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I moved...HELP!
Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:53:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4iuidj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Nat Hooper) wrote:
> I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new
> callsign.

I don't think you need to change your callsign.  Lots of hams I know
are happily using old, out-of-state callsigns.  If you would _like_
to change your callsign, get a copy of Form 610 and fill out the
appropriate parts.  Probably simpler to wait until the next renewal
or upgrade, when you'll have to fill out the form anyway ...


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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (gloria medcalf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I moved...HELP!
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:52:01 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4iuidj$[e-mail]>

In article <4iuidj$[e-mail]>, Pierre Thomson <[e-mail]> wrote:

> [e-mail] (Nat Hooper) wrote:
> > I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new
> > callsign.
>
> I don't think you need to change your callsign.  Lots of hams I know
> are happily using old, out-of-state callsigns.  If you would _like_
> to change your callsign, get a copy of Form 610 and fill out the
> appropriate parts.  Probably simpler to wait until the next renewal
> or upgrade, when you'll have to fill out the form anyway ...
>
>
> ~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'
> Pierre Thomson        ARS: KA2QPG         internet: [e-mail]
> -*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,


However, even if you don't want to change your callsign, you still need to
let the FCC know of your change of address. I think this is still done by
filling out a Form 610.

gloria ka5ztx
http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Donald W. Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Icom 3SAT
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:45:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4islrn$[e-mail]>

I am looking for any mods for the Icom IC-3SAT.  like broadband RX/TX,
AM receive, etc.
Thank you.
don



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:44 1996
From: Dave Booth <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Icom 3SAT
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:47:18 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4islrn$[e-mail]>
To: "Donald W. Chapman" <[e-mail]>

Donald W. Chapman wrote:
>
> I am looking for any mods for the Icom IC-3SAT.  like broadband RX/TX,
> AM receive, etc.
> Thank you.
> don

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try looking here...
http://oak.oakland.edu:8080/pub/hamradio/mods

73 de kc6wfs

http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/65348/home.html
Dave Booth


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: KaWin News
Date: 22 Mar 1996 04:10:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4it986$[e-mail]>

KAWIN NEWS

KaWin 6.36
Kantronics to distribute KaWin
KaWin FTP Site closure
KaWin News mailing list issues

Version 6.36 of KaWin, available now from the KaWin Home Page, is just a
maintenance release with a few, very minor, fixes. But, due to problems
with my mailer, many people missed the announcement of version 6.35,
with support for the Buckmaster Hamcall CDROM.

Also, I am very pleased to announce that Kantronics will be packaging
KaWin on diskette with every TNC and TNC-upgrade. This is the same
shareware KaWin that is available from the KaWin Home Page and will
increase the distribution of KaWin several fold.

All files that were previously available from the KaWin FTP Site have
been consolidated in the KaWin Home Page. If you do not have Web access
and had previously relied on FTP access to these files, send me email to
that effect and we'll arrange to get them to you.

I have purged all addresses from the KaWin News mailing list that have
had delivery problems. If you did NOT receive the email version of KaWin
News announcing KaWin 6.36 and would like to be on the mailing list,
please subscribe by email request. To add your email address to the
KaWin News mailing list, send email to [e-mail] with the word
SUBSCRIBE in the subject line. If your email address is modified in any
way by your host or gateway, please include the correct address in the
body of the message. Thanks.

73, Igottago... Stan ..

KaWin News is published by Stan Huntting, KF0IA.
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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood Email
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 07:03:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: Kenwood Email

 >I have ICOM's Email address,

Can you post it?  I would like to have it.

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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:47 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Learning Morse Code
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 15:10:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4iu8p3$[e-mail]>

I am thinking about getting  a Ham Liciense. I already have a receiver
and DX all the time. Can anyone reccommend a good program for teaching
Morse Code? Is there a FAQ list for getting a liciense? If so can
someone send me a copy?

Thanks! I enjoy this group very much.

Regards

Lloyd



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nat Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Licence renewal
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:41:18 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi,

I've had my "Advanced" licence since 1988, but have been inactive for
awhile...and have moved.

I don't need to renew for awhile but what's the easiest way to get the
appropriate form for change of state?

Thanks,

Nat Hooper   WD4BJB
Oxford, Arkansas



Nat Hooper
Oxford, Arkansas

A man has to think.  I think I'll go throw a stick.


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tracy Hooker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mars/Cap mods for FT900
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:14:23
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anybody have the Mars/Cap modification for the Yaesu FT900?  If so,
please email them to me.

THanks
Tracy
KA5ECS



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:51 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Military field/PRC radios wanted
Message-ID: <1996Mar22.090657.17188@wvnvms>
Date: 22 Mar 96 09:06:57 EST

Hello all, I am looking to pick up military PRC type
equipment. Preferably transister like the 77, 74, 70
etc. also like the 25s. Will work out a trade or buy
if the price is fair. Thanks,
Chris KB2HVU

please mail to
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:52 1996
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:36:55 EST
From: peter deHART <[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MISSION NET

Seeking information... frequencies and times for missionary nets on ham bands.
Thank you!


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (William Rueger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MISSION NET
Date: 23 Mar 1996 11:39:54 -0500
Message-ID: <4j19gq$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

IMRA Net - 14280 kHz
Monday through Sat.  1800-2000 GMT




From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jack C. Lockhart)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE
Date: 20 Mar 1996 23:34:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4iq4n3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Frank C. Morris, N5YZM <[e-mail]> wrote:
>We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade.  We have already
>lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs.
>
>There is no doubt that you can't make anyone upgrade due to the fact that
>you have to have the desire and willingness to put the time into upgrading.
>It is one of the things in life that you have to earn and it is not given to
>you.  But the benefits are far greater than the time required to upgrade.
>
>Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade?
>
>73's DE Frank, N5YZM
>Boat Anchor Radio Group
>


Frank,

Aren't we being a little bit co-dependent?


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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Garver)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE
Date: 22 Mar 1996 17:44:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4iuou7$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4iqhdf$[e-mail]>

>>We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade.  We have already
>>lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs.

Regularly scheduled testing sessions at convenient times and locations are
a good start.  Without prejudice.  A ham license is a license to learn.
Nowadays when people come to me for advice on getting a license, I just point
to NM1D's Autoexam program.  ftp://oak.oakland.edu/SimTel/msdos/hamradio/
I believe that you can learn from this type of study.

If I was a Godless Tech today, I can't think of one single reason to
upgrade.  Almost all of my activities now fall into that area of 'priviledges'
.

Incentive licensing was a failure and Novice Enhancement a failure.
The only thing that has worked as measured by an increasing ham population
is the No Code Tech.  In my opinion they are the ONLY hope for ham
radio which is way behind the state of the art in almost every field now.

QST had a recent editorial or article titled:

 'Morse 2000'

I just about chucked!  Until then I hadn't even thought about anybody
trying to foster that grand old tradition into the 21st Century.

Yes, I used to teach code classes and helped many people get their license
or upgrade.  And I did operate a code-only station for years back in the
60's.  But this is the late 90's.  And I'd like to hear or even see some more
young new voices and faces on the ham bands, last of the public airwaves.

WA7LDV
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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:58 1996
From: Ray Wilson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:59:36 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Frank C. Morris, N5YZM wrote:

> Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade?
>
> 73's DE Frank, N5YZM
> Boat Anchor Radio Group

Frank,

I respectfully suggest you DON'T let them listen to 3.898 or 14.313
before they upgrade.

73

Ray


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:39:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Clark II)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need help with used FT-470
Date: 21 Mar 1996 02:26:45 -0600
Message-ID: <4ir3s5$[e-mail]>
Summary: bought used ft-470, need help with config
Keywords: ft-470 help


Hello all,

I've just (tonight) bought a used FT-470 and it came with no manual (what
can I say, the price was right...:)).  Does anyone know where an on-line
version might be or where I can get a copy of it?  I need things like
how to do memories and other such nice things.

Thanks for any and all help,

Gary




From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ralph Zancha)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need help with used FT-470
Date: 21 Mar 1996 12:44:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4irivf$[e-mail]>
References: <4ir3s5$[e-mail]>

Hello: The best place to get a manual for the radio is to call Yaesu. They
will send you a photo copied manual for about $8.00

73
Ralph Zancha
WC9V
>
>


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need Spectrum Chart!
Date: 23 Mar 1996 13:22:47 -0500
Message-ID: <4j1fhn$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (M
ichael) writes:

>I'm looking for a chart or a list of the HF through UHF spectrum, showing
>band plans and allocations. Anybody got one? Anybody know if there's an
>FCC site on the net that might have something like that? Please reply via
>email. Thank!

Check the Scanning Reference, http://www.panix.com/clay/scanning/

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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Please identify this Halicrafter.
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:08:27 -0500
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ijm1r$[e-mail]>

Edward Soniat du Fossat Jr wrote:

> What is this radio, how old is it and should I repair or replace.
>
> It is a Halicrafter.
> It has a large half moon dial labeled Tuning (with the h symbol in the middl
e)
> It has a smaller half moon dial labeled Band Spread to the right of Tuning.

> Rating on a scale of 0 is run over by a truck and 10 is new this could
> be a 3, in other words it ain't pretty.

Sounds like a Hallicrafters S-38. If you want to restore it as a classic
radio, fine. In pristine condition, a radio like that might be worth $80 -
$100. But if you want to actaully use it, get a new radio. Any modern
radio, even a very inexpensive one, will outperform it even you restore it
to like-new working condition. You'll spend more in parts and frustration
trying to get a wrecked old H'crafter working than you'll spend on a new
radio. Best of luck.

Mike, N4PDY

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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:04 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: REPEATER GUIDES ON WWW
Date: 21 Mar 1996 13:05:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4irk66$[e-mail]>
References: <4g2gg4$[e-mail]> <4hsg6m$[e-mail]> <4hso2n$[e-mail]> <bote.827395045@access2>

>Has anyone noticed that individual hams are putting together
>these collections, and not the coordinators who collect
>all the data? Something to think about...

Not here in Colorado.  See the coordinator's list of Colorado
repeaters at http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/.
-----
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Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/




From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (W2EHD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: The Sleuth answering device - any info??
Date: 21 Mar 1996 08:39:41 -0500
Message-ID: <4irm6t$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (W2EHD)

I have come across a telephone/modem answering/security device called The
Sleuth - made by C. H. Systems of Los Angeles.   I understand it can be
programmed to call back the modem/caller - if the proper password is
provided.
C.H. Systems, I am told, went out of business some years ago.
Does anyone know how to reprogram The Sleuth - or what software is needed
- to use it again?

Jack W2EHD


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Emarit Ranu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TTL/RS-232 converters
Date: 20 Mar 1996 23:19:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4iq3q6$[e-mail]>
References: <4inamj$[e-mail]>


        Make one.  You can look in the February 1993 QST, page 37.
        Here you will find a VERY simple one to build for less than
        $10 parts only.

Todd Jonz ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm in the market for a pair rig-to-PC interfaces (TTL to RS-232 level
: converters), one for a Yaesu FT-736R and another for a Kenwood TS-950SD.  I
: called the local HRO store to inquire about prices and availability and was
: absolutely astonished to learn that they want $110 and $120, respectively,
: for these little beasts.  I assume that this is in the ballpark of the MSRP,
: and that the other major suppliers will have similar prices.

: I recall seeing ads in the past in QST for several third parties offering
: these interfaces in the $40 to $50 price range, but after pouring through
: the last three issues, I've come up dry.  Can anybody give me a pointer?


: KB6JXT, Todd

: P.S.  Please excuse what may be a stupid hardware question from an admitted
:       software geek, but us there any possible justification for a $120
:       price tag on an item like this?  Seems *way* out of line to me....



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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:10 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <RP2+ugAD$[e-mail]> <4id03n$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:32:43 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> "J. Guy Stalnaker" <jstalnak@stud
ents.wisc.edu> writes:
>Hi all:
>I'm a SW newbie and have found this entire thread highly instructive.  But li
ke any good
>student after a professor's lecture I have a question.  Why do FM radios use
this "image
>frequency?"  Why not use circuitry that tunes directly into the desired frequ
ency?  In
>other words, what's the image frequency used for and why?
>
>Many thanks,
>
>J. Guy Stalnaker

The image frequency is an unavoidable consequence of superhetrodyne
receiver design. In a good receiver, the front end filtering is sufficient
to prevent the image frequency from reaching the first mixer. In a cheap
radio, or a wide frequency coverage radio, the front end filtering may
not be good enough, so the image frequency mixes with the first LO and
the output appears in the IF where it is amplified and demodulated along
with the desired frequency.

There is a radio design that doesn't have images. It's called a TRF
design. TRF stands for Tuned Radio Frequency, and it is simply a
chain of RF amplifiers all gang tuned to the desired signal frequency.
But it has other, and worse, problems than image response, so it was
abandoned for the superhetrodyne design way back in the 1930s.

The three main problems of the TRF design are to get all those RF
amplifiers to track tune in sync as you tune from station to station,
dealing with the selectivity changes as you change frequencies, and
avoiding self-oscillation. The superhetrodyne design sidesteps these
problems by doing the gain and selectivity at a *fixed* IF (Intermediate
Frequency). This eliminates the variable gang tuning problem, and
eliminates the problem of selectivity changing with frequency. Since
it is a fixed frequency subsystem, self-oscillation problems are also
relatively easy to avoid.

The tradeoff for that is that you need a mixer to convert the desired
signal to the Intermediate Frequency by beating the desired signal with
a LO (Local Oscillator) that is tunable. Unavoidably, the mixer gives
you both sum and difference products, hence there is an image. As I
said, a good superhetrodyne receiver has sufficient filtering ahead
of the first mixer to prevent a signal at the image frequency from
entering the mixer, a cheaply built receiver often does not.

The most common FM IF frequency is 10.7 MHz. So the desired signal
is tuned 10.7 MHz to one side of the LO, and the image appears 10.7 MHz
to the *other* side of the LO. The product in one case is 10.7 MHz and
in the other it is -10.7 MHz. The negative sign merely means the
envelope of one of the signals is reversed from that of the other
product. So it's like looking in a mirror, and it is thus called an
*image*.

Since the desired signal is 10.7+10.7=21.4 MHz displaced from the
image signal, you only need a filter before the mixer that will
pass one of the signals but reject the other one 21.4 MHz away.
This is usually an easy filter to design and build.

But for the TRF receiver, you need a *bunch* of *tunable* filters
that are capable of rejecting a signal only 200 kHz away (the separation
between FM broadcast channels) from the desired signal. That requires a
Q (sharpness) that is very hard to obtain in a gang tuned design. So the
TRF design fell out of favor many years ago. It is still sometimes used
for VLF (Very Low Frequency) receivers because the needed Q is not so
hard to obtain at the lower frequency.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Lundgren)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: 21 Mar 1996 02:44:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4iqfph$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4imjob$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Steve Work ([e-mail]) penned:
: Dennis Nuetzel ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : >There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I
: : >checked!  How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
: : >transmissions???

: :    If close enough, it will.  I have picked up CB radio transmissions (Als
o
: : AM) on a nearby FM reciever.

: "AM rejection" is a spec which applies to FM radios.  It is worse on
: cheaper ones.

I'm assuming that by worse, you mean is has poorer AM rejection.

: The circuitry used to detect FM signals can respond to changes in the
: amplitude.  Especially when the circuit is cheap, and under conditions
: where it is overloaded.

Actually, when the circuitry is overloaded, it should limit and prevent
AM from getting thru.  Maybe the circuitry is not overloaded enough. ;-)


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From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Don Sterner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What do you need for a 2 meter repeater
Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:26:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4iugr1$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Does any body know what I need for starting a repeater, equipment wise? I
>want it to have an autopatch, and CTCSS tones to access it.
>_________________________________________


Not equipment, but the first thing you need in most areas of the
country is a coordinated frequency.



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:13 1996
From: [e-mail](Bry AF4K)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WWW Pages
Date: 17 Mar 1996 22:13:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4ii2r7$[e-mail]>
References: <4ii2gj$[e-mail]>

On Mar 17, 1996 22:08:19 in article <Re: WWW Pages>,
'[e-mail](John Chapman)' wrote:


>Looks neat! Unfortunately, when I clicked on the 1st QSL choice
>it crashed. said URL couldn't be found!
>but have added to my bookmark!

QSL choice - what was that about? (Have to check it out...)
--
Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC
[e-mail]
Keep in touch!


From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:13 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: x
Date: 21 Mar 96 18:03:13 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

help



From [e-mail] Sun Mar 24 17:40:15 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: x
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:46:13 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> help

That's a normal AOL posting.

The number to dial is 911...


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 10M equipment required - US sources
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:04:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4j7bdm$[e-mail]>


Hi, I am trying to track down a source of equipment suitable for 10
Meter use.

Our repeater group is building a 10M repeater and because there is a
lack of equipment around the 10M band, I need to know of any sources
in the US that might sell equipment for our purpose.

We are looking for separate units, one for TX and one for RX. Using a
split site for the repeater.

If there is anyone that can help me locate any equipment at reasonable
prices I would be gretful if you could inform me.

Best Regards

Kevin


E-mail: [e-mail]        / Amateur Radio helped Pioneer
Packet: ZL1UDD@ZL1AB.#11.NZL.OC / the World Communicates
                                / Today.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:47 1996
From: Markus Buehler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 10m Repeater Switzerland HELP wanted
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:46:23 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello thank you for reading this message:
We, a small group of ham operators, will build a 10m repeater.
Both RX and TX are located up at about 2000 meters in the swiss
mountains.
A 10 watt beacon is ready to put up to the tx location. We are only
waiting for warmer weather conditions. It will operate on 29.660 mc.
What we are looking for:
Are there 10 m repeaters at such high locations in the united states
or else where ?
We are interested in what kind of antennas where used.
Also the lightning protection is a big problem.
Which kind of tx and rx constructions are the best for 10m
repeaters.
Any other tips are real welcome.
Thanks a lot.
Marc   HB9CPW


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:48 1996
From: leslie ferguson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2meter transverter problem on hf rig
Date: 29 Mar 1996 01:08:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4jfd5g$[e-mail]>

Hi
   Can anyone help me ,i have a 2 meter transverter for my hf rig ~(ft
757 gx) .But every time i transmit useing the transverter there is feed
back coming out of the speaker or my headphones on the hf rig. I wonder
is the problem with my transverter or my hf rig?.

                               Thanks ....lez....ei9ejb...



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark A. Garrett)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 49Mhz Radio Shack Handheld
Date: 24 Mar 1996 16:26:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4j3t4h$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4iaohl$[e-mail]> <4itg19$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Mark A. Garrett)


In a previous article, [e-mail] () says:

>Mark A. Garrett <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>>Yes, the single channel units can be converted to 6 meters with a crystal
>>change and tuneup.  Crystals are fundamental X3 for transmit and for the
>
>How complicated is the tuneup? Details available from any articles/site?
>
>Steve Lapinskas
>KA1JJA
>
Steve:
I guess I should post a FAQ on how to do this since I have been posting
general responses.  Tuneup is not hard, depending on what kind of gear that
is availible to the ham.  I used a general coverage receiver for checking
fundamental crystal frequency, a frequency counter to determine final
frequency, a 6 meter rig to generate a strong carrier to the radio's receiver
(radio in shack connected to dummy load and not to the 49Mhz radio) and a
scanner to generate a weak signal using the scanner's oscolator to generate
the on channel signal (I did not have a signal generator at the time so
that is why I had to use a 6 meter radio and scanner).
The layout is straighforward on these radios and the little schematic (if
Radio Shack still supplies them) helps also.
The only real word of warning is that you should tune up with a scope
connected to the demodulator IC and not just the speaker.  The squelch
circuit is a couple of fixed resistors and is set quite high.  I dont have
the schematic in front of me but you want to get on the pins that feed noise
to the squelch circuit so that you see white noise present on the scope.
Tune for minimum noise and after everything is tune up then adjust the
quad output coil for max audio.
When I get time here I will set down and print up a FAQ on this and some
things that I have run across.  If you have any questions in the mean time
drop me a line and I will try and answer.
--
Mark Garrett   [e-mail]
               KA9SZX @ N9LNQ.#ECIL.IL.USA.NOAM


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:52 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: >>>>HELP - Small VHF Xmitter for Airborne Telemetry<<<
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:28:08 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Can someone help me by pointing me to a schematic or an article of a small VHF
 transmitter? It is
to be used to relay telemetry from a series of high altitude rockets. Followin
g are the (desired)
specs:

Frequency:      2m band or nearby; XTAL controlled;
RF Power:       50-250 mW output;
Supply:         9-12 VDC (battery);
Modulation:     N/A

Complexity (ie. size and weight) should be as low as possible, as should the c
ost - lets face it -
the typical life of these devices will be measured in minutes. I would preffer
 to build the
xmitters myself as integral part of a telemetry package.

I have hundreds of various scanner crystals that fit in this category. They ha
ve fundamental
frequencies around 16MHz, but I don t really know if I can use them for this p
roject.

I would very much appreciate any help in this matter. I can be also reached at

        mailto:[e-mail]

My thanks to all those who reply!

73s

Chris (WR1F)


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:53 1996
From: Rick Wilson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: >Esperanto vs Klingon
Date: 29 Mar 1996 14:25:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4jgrsp$[e-mail]>

Esperantist? claim that Esperanto is a well thought-out language. Maybe.
Did they go to a group of speech pathologists and ask these questions:
What sounds do young children have trouble learning?
What sounds are easily confused?
Did they go to a group of audio engineers and ask these questions:
What sounds require a lot of bandwidth in order to be clear?
What sounds are hard to distinguish in the presence of distortion?
What sounds are hard to distinguish in the presence of noise (like weak-signal
 2M
SSB)?
I don't think that the creators of Esperanto did ask those questons because th
e
very name points out defects in the language--it has not been well enough thou
ght
out to eliminate difficult-to-learn sounds and easily confused sounds.
Anyway I suspect that most trekkies are a lot more interesting than esperantis
ts,
who probably are still holding on to their original 68000-CPU Macs with 2 MB o
f RAM
and a single floppy drive.

--
Rick Wilson | e-mail: [e-mail]
fax [phone] | voice 217 221 6137 | ham call W0KT
se habla espan~ol   | ich spreche deutsch |  si parla italiano




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:54 1996
From: Bruce Bryant <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: 25 Mar 1996 15:35:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6eg3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

>   or won't do anything about it, wouldn't it be fitting for
*us* to
>   *all* isolate these lids by *completely* ignoring them and refusing
>   to communicate with them?
>
>   Or am I so old-fasioned in thinking we can work together to make a
>   difference that everyone will just laugh at me?
>
>   Maybe I picked the wrong hobby...  <sigh>
>
>   Lisa KC7PSZ

That is the advice I have gotten from more experienced hams.
Ignoring them probably won't make them go away, but at least it
won't encourage them.  And also, as a fellow new ham, I think
you picked a wonderful hobby.  Don't let a few bad apples spoil
it for you.  I've had nothing but positive experiences so far.
--
****************************************************************
Bruce Bryant, KC8BWL                  e-mail:
[e-mail]

Opinions expressed are strictly my own, not necessarily those
of Uncle Henry.
****************************************************************



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 00:29:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4ivgva$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Lisa Keeton) wrote:

>   Hmmmm... I'm a new Ham, so please excuse my naivette <sp?> when I
>   ask this, since my experiences have so far been good ones...

           <snip>

>   Maybe I picked the wrong hobby...  <sigh>
>
>   Lisa KC7PSZ

Hi Lisa,

What happens on the newsgroups is often not indicative of the
Amateur community elsewhere, nor do articles posted here
necessarly present an accurate depiction of Amateur conduct.

Yes, there are a few idiots on the air and I share your
disappointment in that regard.  However, they're a small minority and
their impact on the rest of us should not be taken out of context.

Enjoy the hobby and welcome to Amateur Radio.  :)

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Active clubs in D/FW area?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:10:07 GMT

I know there are several active clubs in the D/FW area, but I
would like to find something near Grand Prairie so my sister
could drive her son to license classes.  Can anyone refer me
to someone in the area?

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:57 1996
From: Pat Bingham <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Active clubs in D/FW area?
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:28:54 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Monty Wilson wrote:
>
> I know there are several active clubs in the D/FW area, but I
> would like to find something near Grand Prairie so my sister
> could drive her son to license classes.  Can anyone refer me
> to someone in the area?
>
> --
> .........Monty.
> [e-mail]
Hi Monty,
     The Arlington Radio Club is currently running classes.  I suggest
you get in contact with Phil, N5PWW.  He is the educational coordinator.
I am at work and don't have his phone number, but you should be
able to get him on 147.14 which is the AARC repeater.

     Very 73,
     Pat
     K5ETX


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:58 1996
From: Judhi Prasetyo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Again: FT-5200
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:31:45 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

I wrote:
> Please help me to fix this problem :
>
> I try to open out-of-band receive for my FT-5200
> by keep pressing "D/MR", "F/W" and "REV" button while
> power switch on. But then my rig locked !
>
> I can't turn this stuff off by pressing power button.
> All front panel buttons also dont work.
> I already try to press RESET button but also don't fix the problem.

Now I find the problem is not because of expanded receive freq.
But maybe something else. The new problem is :

When I connect a speaker (internal or external) then the rig seems 'hang'.
Dial knob still work but no button does including mic up/down button.
The rig works properly if I remove any speaker from the unit. :-(
I also try using earpiece with high impedance coil, but also can't help.

Is this called 'electro-static' problem ?
Anyone has idea for this ? I cannot fix it yet....

Thank you...

-jps


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:35:59 1996
From: Judhi Prasetyo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Again: FT-5200
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 07:44:44 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Please help me to fix this problem :

I try to open out-of-band receive for my FT-5200
by keep pressing "D/MR", "F/W" and "REV" button while
power switch on. But then my rig locked !

I can't turn this stuff off by pressing power button.
All front panel buttons also dont work.
I already try to press RESET button but also don't fix the problem.

I need the rig working, so please... please... somebody help me...

Thank you so much...

-jps


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:00 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Alinco DX-70, I want your review!
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 23:16:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4jhjtp$[e-mail]>
References: <4j5mte$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (KD4GEU) wrote:

>I'm considering buying a DX-70 is it worth buying?
>I've got to have a rig with 6 meters, that's why I'm looking at the DX-70.

>Your comments are appreciated!

I have had my 70T for 7 months and have used it mobile (HF) and fixed
on all bands.  I LOVE it.  It is great on HF altho the Noise blanker
is a joke.  There is a factory mod for it but I have not sent it in
yet.

Six meters is super,  I have 66 Grids and 25 states with 10 watts and
6 el at 60 feet.  Only a cupple real openings but it has been fun.
Rcvr is good on all bands and xmtrs are xmtrs so wat can I say.

If u have questions, let me know.

cdn


           C. Dean Norris
      Amateur Radio Station K7NO
      e-mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4i02gn$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:30:15 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]> w
rites:
>Gary Coffman wrote:
>> >We're in a period of transition.  Radio, which was VERY popular to most
>> >Hams in their youth, is being replaced by satellite and wire-line links.
>> >While radio will always have a cult, there will never be the population
>> >of the 50's and 60's.
>>
>> That's a surprising statement, considering that the current US amateur
>> population is three times as large as it was in the 1960s, and that
>> it is finally, after decades of stagnation caused by the Incentive
>> Licensing debacle, growing again at rates comparable to those of the
>> 1950s.
>
>It wasn't a debacle--the ARRL is still proud, and still in control, therefore
>it is good :-)
>
>The US Amateur Population you cite, is probably based on Number of licensed.
>But that number means even less, since people who died 10 years ago are still
>counted.  No-Coder teens who dropped out after 6 months of abuse, etc.

That's a valid criticism of the accuracy of the official numbers as a
reflection of the actual active amateur population, and I've made it
myself on other occasions. However, the difference in the official
numbers and the real numbers is very unlikely to be threefold, and
the official numbers for 1960 suffered a similar inflation due to
deceased amateurs not being promptly purged from the roles, and due
to disillusioned teenagers dropping out. Both those factors existed
then as well as now. So I don't think we can escape the conclusion
that the amateur service has grown approximately threefold, though
we may not be able to put a precise number to either the 1960
active amateur population or the 1996 active amateur population.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Bailey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Antenna newsgroup?
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 02:46:02 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iqhil$[e-mail]>


One newsgroup is rec.radio.amateur. antenna

[e-mail] (KK5EP) wrote:

>I'm trying to find out the e-mail address or the news group name of the
>antenna forum for hams.  Anyone out there have it?  Tnx a lot 73, Mike
>KK5EP.


73,
Mike
KW9N


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion
Date: 25 Mar 1996 21:34:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4j73hm$[e-mail]>


Not to play the heavy-handed Net.Cop, but rec.radio.amateur.policy
is the appropriate newsgroup for discussion of the CW requirement.
If you don't believe me, have a look at the charter of the newsgroups.

Of course, discussion of Morse code not related to the requirement
may belong somewhere else.  Selection of code keys and keyers probably
belongs in rec.radio.amateur.equipment, for example.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Homebrew)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion
Date: 27 Mar 1996 00:51:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4ja3fg$[e-mail]>
References: <4j73hm$[e-mail]>

Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Not to play the heavy-handed Net.Cop, but rec.radio.amateur.policy

Oh, shut up and stop playing net-cop, asshole.  This is MISC!



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 08:41:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4jdjo5$[e-mail]>
References: <4j73hm$[e-mail]> <4ja3fg$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Homebrew) wrote:

>Oh, shut up and stop playing net-cop, asshole.  This is MISC!

Oh Nooooo!!  I've died and gone to 75 meters!

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion
Date: 27 Mar 1996 03:33:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4jactd$[e-mail]>
References: <4j73hm$[e-mail]> <4ja3fg$[e-mail]>

In article <4ja3fg$[e-mail]>,
Homebrew <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Dana Myers ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: Not to play the heavy-handed Net.Cop, but rec.radio.amateur.policy
>
>Oh, shut up and stop playing net-cop, asshole.  This is MISC!
>

There's one in every crowd.  Perhaps you could get someone there to
read the following excerpts from the "Guide to the Personal Radio
Newsgroups" to you:

P.S. Do you eat with that mouth, Len?

-----     Begin included text -----
Followup-To: poster

This message describes the rec.radio.amateur.*, rec.radio.cb,
rec.radio.info, and rec.radio.swap newsgroups, as well as their Internet
mailing list counterparts and complements. It is intended to serve as a
guide for the new reader on what to find where. Questions and comments may
be directed to the author, Jay Maynard, K5ZC, by Internet electronic mail at
[e-mail]. This message was last changed on 31 October
1994 to add the discussion of non-Usenet mailing lists and streamline most
of the history discussion, and to change the moderator information for
rec.radio.info.

[...]

The Current Groups
==================

It's important to post messages to the group that's appropriate for them,
and not to the groups that aren't. The whole idea of having different
newsgroups is so that folks who aren't interested in, say, homebrewing,
don't have to wade through messages about homebrewing on the way to read
about Field Day. Posting appropriately is just good etiquette.

The rec.radio.amateur.misc group is the catchall. It is what rec.ham-radio
was renamed to during the first major reorganization. Any message that's not
more appropriate in one of the other groups belongs here, from contesting to
DX to ragchewing on VHF to information on becoming a ham.


[...]

The group rec.radio.amateur.policy was created as a place for all the
discussions that seem to drag on interminably about the many rules,
regulations, legalities, and policies that surround amateur radio, both
existing and proposed.  Recent changes to the Amateur Radio Rules (FCC Part
97) have finally laid to rest the Great Usenet Pizza Autopatch Debate - it's
now legal to order a pizza on the autopatch, if you're not in the pizza
business - as well as complaints about now-preempted local scanner laws
hostile to amateurs, but plenty of discussion about what a bunch of rotten
no-goodniks the local frequency coordinating body is, as well as the
neverending no-code debate, may still be found here.

-----    End of Included Text     -----


--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:08 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLD016 DX news
Date: 21 Mar 1996 17:34:21 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB DX @ ARL $ARLD016
ARLD016 DX news

ZCZC AE58
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 16  ARLD016
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  March 21, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB DX ARL ARLD016
ARLD016 DX news

This week's bulletin was made possible with info provided by Hans,
OH2BDP, Jorma, OH2KI, Jean Michel, F6AJA, Mike, W0YR, Ron, AA5DX,
Tedd, KB8NW, the OPDX Bulletin and Contest Corral from QST.  Thanks
to all.

MYANMAR, XZ.  The Central Arizona DX Association XZ1N DXpedition
slated for April 2 to 12 has been postponed.  A number of unsettled
regulatory matters between military and ministries seems to be the
crux of the problem.

MARION ISLAND, ZS8.  Chris, ZS5IR/ZS6RI, will be active early May
until mid-1997 signing ZS8IR.  He will operate SSB, CW and RTTY on
160 through 6 meters using primarily wire antennas, including
rhombics and vee beams.  Chris operates in contests, too.  QSL via
ZS6EZ.

CROZET ISLAND, FT.  Sam, FT5WE, plans to be up and running on 80
meters in a couple of weeks.  He continues to work 30 and 40 meter
CW.  QSL via F6GTW.

MARKET REEF, OJ0.  Listen for Finnish operators on the air until
March 24.  Original plans called for CW and SSB, though due to
popular demand RTTY will also be worked.  Please be patient on RTTY,
as operator OH2KI is new to this mode.  QSL OH0MB via OH0RJ,
OJ0/OH1VR via OH1VR, and OJ0/OH2KI via OH2KI.  The next Market Reef
DXpedition by OH1VR is planned for the CQ WW WPX CW contest in May.

SVALBARD, JW.  Three Norwegian operators will sign JW6RHA, JW9THA
and JW8KT March 31 to April 7.  They will use both SSB and CW.
Listen for their SSB around 14248 and 21248 kHz.

MADAGASCAR, 5R.  Gerard, F2JD/5R8EN, will be on Nossi Be Island,
IOTA AF057, March 22 to 24.  Listen for 5R8EN/P.

TUNISIA, 3V. XE2CQ will be in Tunisia on business April 14 to 24 and
plans to guest operate club station 3V8BB.  On his trip home he will
try to stop and operate in both EA9 and ZB2.  QSL via AA6BB.
Meanwhile, Hein, DL2OBF, says cards have not been printed for the
late November 1995 German operation of 3V8BB.  As soon as cards are
received from the printer, all contacts will be confirmed.  Please
be patient.

CHAGOS ISLANDS.  Ron, AA5DX, will sign VQ9DX until mid-June and
operate all bands.  QSL via Ron Marra, Marginal 301-C, La Rambla
Suite 205, Ponce PR 00731.

HEARD ISLAND, VK0.  A recent press release announces the team now
consisting of 20 operators representing 9 countries.  The ops are
EA8AFJ, G0LMX, HB9AHL, JH4RHF, KA6W, K0IR, K4UEE, K9AJ, KK6EK, N6EK,
NP4IW, ON6TT, PA3DUU, RA3AUU, VK2TQM, W6OTC, W8FMG, WA0PUJ, WA3YVN,
and 9V1YC.

THIS WEEKEND ON THE RADIO.  Pick up band/state credits by getting in
the Alaska QSO Party this weekend.  The European EME Contest will
also be going on.  See page 97 in March QST for more info.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:12 1996
From: Ed Hare <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code?
Date: 22 Mar 1996 00:24:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4isrv0$[e-mail]>
References: <4ik94t$[e-mail]> <4iq343$[e-mail]>

Vincent Biancomano <[e-mail]> wrote:

> The history of this issue, including QST's January 1996 editorial,
> indicates ARRL would be bolstering their "top management" levels in
> order to promote the easing of requirements for Morse Code, through
> what I believe will be a national tour or campaign by ARRL officials
> to gather "overwhelming" support for their agenda.

Hello, Vince,

I got a bit confused, but I assume you mean the February 1996 editorial.
:-)  I reread the editorial and just did not see the same handwriting on
the wall that you are envisioning.  To quote Mr Sumner, "At its meeting
January 19-20 ... the ARRL Board of Directors will be grappling with the
parallel question of how to structure our domestic consideration of these
issues."  (I note that "these issues" covers a lot more ground than the
Morse Code issue - Ed), "Membership input will be important in developing
ARRL positions."

> That's fair enough.

That's fair enough by me, too.  I have met a number of ARRL Directors in
my tenure here; I have found that most of them spend a lot of time asking
for Member input on the burning issues of the day.  They are available by
phone, by letter, by email and spend about half their weekends travelling
to conventions and club meetings in their Divisions.  I just don't
construe that as "gathering overwhelming support for thier agenda."  I
construe that as "soliciting input for their agenda."

>But it should ALSO be well noted that then-Director Mendelsohn stated at Ham
Expo in Long Island, New York on 10 November 1990:

> "There's no need for amateur radio to remain a technical hobby,
> simply because technicians and engineers can't even find jobs
> today. You know, my father was a plumber, and he advised me to
> do the same. And looking back on it, you know, he was absolutely
> right."

I don't know the context, so I can't completely interpret the overall
intent.  I do know that since 1990, I can't recall that he has managed to
eliminate the technical part of Amateur Radio, or even tried.  I also
know that he is still works for a major network in NYC and has not
changed his profession to plumber. :-)

> Is ARRL going to push for an easing of Morse Code requirements?
> You bet it is!

Maybe, but maybe not.  From all the indications I have, that will depend
mostly on the input to the policy makers of the ARRL, our Division
Directors.  On this forum, I have often encouraged all hams to make their
views kwown to their Directors.

> And it appears clear to me they will also support
> an easing of theory requirements as well. Amateur radio has fooled
> with this problem for too long a time. Now it finds itself in deep
> trouble. Small wonder.

It is not clear to me that we will support the easing of theory
requirements as well.  I can't see it in the February article, I can't
see it in the many hours of staff time spent preparing technical
publications, why, the ARRL Handbook has been increasing in technical
content, not decreasing, over the years.  I don't see it in the work that
goes into QEX, our "high tech" magazine.  And I won't read it into the
fact that we are devoting a fair chunk of our resources toward the
beginner; there are a LOT of beginners in Amateur Radio and we want to
see them become active and integrated with us "old timers."  They have
our support, but IMHO, that is exactly the way it should be.

By the way, if I had my way, I would see a clear strenghtening of the
theory requirements.  If I had my way, if the requirements for Morse
proficiency were to change, I would prefer to see them change slowly, to
give the Service and those who believe in traditions time to adjust.  But
when it comes to these policy matters, I matter no more than you, and
probably a bit less; the Directors know they can ignore me if they
choose. :-) But if you have concerns about ARRL's Morse Code or
technical-requirement positions, please do what the February Editorial
asked for -- tell your Director what direction you think we should take
and why.  No matter which way you see it, even if it goes against what I
would like to see. . . if I had my way. :-)


73 from ARRL HQ,  Ed Hare, KA1CV, ARRL Laboratory Supervisor





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (crum)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: ARRL insurance
Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:53:06 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm thinking about ARRL insurance.  Any experience with it (claims)?
I don't have too much stuff -- just a few FM radios for voice and
computer networking.  But, I lost a handheld last year while hiking!
An Alinco DJ-580T!  I'll certainly tether my HT nicely while hiking
from now on, but a friend said that ARRL insurance covers accidently
like that, so I'm interested.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael Parkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARRL insurance
Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:55:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf5dv$[e-mail]>
References: <4jdcgn$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I believe there is a minumum amount of insurance one must buy.  The minimum is
for $2000.00 worth of equipment whether you have that much or not.
Mike




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:15 1996
From: William W Janssen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Aviation direction finder?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:54:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4j5jfd$[e-mail]>
References: <4j4elt$[e-mail]>

I used the same design for 144 MHz as is used for low frequency and it
worked OK. You would need new electronics of course.

Bill K7NOM



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:16 1996
From: William W Janssen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Aviation direction finder?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 09:36:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4j5pej$[e-mail]>
References: <4j4elt$[e-mail]> <4j5jfd$[e-mail]>

William W Janssen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I used the same design for 144 MHz as is used for low frequency and it
>worked OK. You would need new electronics of course.
>
>Bill K7NOM
>
Just remembered that I did indeed use AM. If using FM I think the best
system would be the Doppler system using two antennas spaced some
distance apart. The FM generated by switching antennas could be detected
by the FM receiver. Much of the electronics of the AM system would be the
same in the FM system. The main difference would be the antennas.
Bill K7NOM




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tekkie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Car`s and EMC.
Date: 24 Mar 1996 02:05:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4j2alc$[e-mail]>
References: <4ipveh$[e-mail]>

Well, I had a 91 Blazer and it was NOISEY!!! A friend has a 95 and it's the
same.  I have a 95 Explorer and no noise.

The Chevy dealer & I had go arounds about the noise. GM says the part is a DRA
C
and will make a custom one for $200+. I didn't spring...

Tekkie

In article <4ipveh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Hi,
>
>I have just moved to the Puget Sound Area from GM`land and
>need to buy a car. I like to run HF & VHF mobile and so EMC
>will play a part in my decision making process.
>
>I seem to recall an article in QST about a year ago, going into



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:18 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Car`s and EMC.
Date: 26 Mar 1996 18:09:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9bsh$[e-mail]>
References: <4ipveh$[e-mail]> <4j2alc$[e-mail]>

Well,

After looking into various makes/models over last weekend, we are going to
opt for a `94 Camry or Accord, then get a older truck when we need to do some
towing.

Any comments on the Camry??..

Robin


>Well, I had a 91 Blazer and it was NOISEY!!! A friend has a 95 and it's the
>same.  I have a 95 Explorer and no noise.
>
>The Chevy dealer & I had go arounds about the noise. GM says the part is a DR
AC
>and will make a custom one for $200+. I didn't spring...
>
>Tekkie
>



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:19 1996
From: "William M. Bickley KF2ON" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Central New Jersey Hamfest This Weekend
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:10:35 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

HAMFEST! - New Jersey (Trenton) - Delaware Valley Radio Association.
Sunday, March 24th - rain or shine.  Vendor setup 6:30am; public 7:30am
to 2:00pm.  Trenton State College Student Recreation Center - Route 31
approx. 1 mile south of I-95/Route 31 exit.  Admission $5.00; Tailgaters
$10.00 (includes space and admission);  Inside Vendors $20.00 (includes
space and admission).  Free parking; refreshments; handicapped
accessible.  Talk-in 146.67 and 442.650.  For info, call DVRA hotline at
[phone].


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (KT4DI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Cheated by MARTIN DURHAM WT1S
Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:13:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jeodg$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Barry,

This is a sad story indeed.  Is there anyone in out here that can contact this
rip-off artist and help Barry get his TNC or money back?  As you can see Barry
is disabled. Here is Martin Durhams address and such:

        WT1S  Martin I. Durham
              404 Spruce Cir.
              Jordan, MN. 55352
              DOB: 14-APR-1964

I hope someone local to this address can help Barry.
--... ...--  -.. .
Paul  KT4DI



>-> From: [e-mail] (Barry Hallett)
>-> Subject: cheated out of tnc
>->
>-> The name is Barry in Dartmouth Nova Scotia, I sent a money order to
>-> MARTIN DURHAM WT1S for $100.00 US funds for a PK 88 tnc. He said he sent
>-> it and it is now 5 months later and no tnc.  I am on a disability
>-> and cant afford this kind of action. If anybody has a very inexpensive
>-> tnc I am still looking for one. I hope this ham that Screwed me out of
>-> money can realy sleep at nite knowing he has done this.
>-> Martin I hope you read this and are happy.
>-> 73 barry
>-> --
>-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>-> --------- Barry Hallett
>-> VE1MUS
>-> [e-mail]
>-> Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia, Canada
>-> [phone]
>-> _____________________________________________________________________



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:21 1996
From: [e-mail](LARRY PIKE )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Chgo area radio classes offered - Novice thru Extra
Date: 23 Mar 1996 13:30:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4j0ued$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>



        My idea is simply this -- ham radio classes see a lot of
drop-outs because the classes go on too darn long!  People have better
things to do with their lives than attend 6 to 12 weeks of ham radio
classes.

I am looking for students and sponsors for one-day license workshops.
If you know anyone interested in getting their Novice ticket or
upgrading to Technician, General, Advanced or Extra, please have them
call me. I will teach a one-day theory seminar & workshop for any
license level -- Novice through Extra.   I've taught ham radio to about
300 people during the past 10 years from Novice through Extra and
always enjoy the excitement in the faces in front of me.

        What do I need to make this happen?  I am looking for a club that
wants to sponsor the workshops.

The sponsoring club will
 1) provide a suitable room for an all-day seminar and
 2) get students lined up for the classes.

What will the club get in return for their effort?  Classes are a great
source of  new members.  Classes can also be an income producer if the
club wants to charge for them.    Keep the money as a donation to the
club or let that money pay for a one-year club membership for the new
ham. My services are free to the club and the students.


Please call me if....
        * Your club or repeater group is interested in sponsoring a
          workshop
        * You or someone you know is interested in attending a
          one-day Upgrade Workshop
        * You know someone interested in a one-day Novice Workshop


                                                        73 de WD9HCR
                                                        Larry Pike
                                                        [phone]
                                          [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:24 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CODE VS NO_CODE ......SOL
Date: 28 Mar 1996 08:57:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4jdkab$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jc41m$[e-mail]> <4jcslq$[e-mail]>

Jeff Jones ([e-mail]) wrote:
: WB3U ([e-mail]) wrote:
: :    [e-mail] (Ej Johnson) wrote:

: : >surely after 100 years we can improve on the code and make it
: : >easier to learn.

: : Amateurs with ages in the single-digits have learned Morse.  What
: : intellectual level are we aiming for?

: This level;

: U want 2 b a ham? Yes []

: U r a ham!

: Sign ur name here ____ : If no remember sign X

: Because first the code goes and then the technical content on the test goes
: and then we have CB! Just look at 2 meters these days... Imagine that
: on 20 meters!


: Jeff
: AB6MB

Jeffery,
   If you could reword the above a bit, you probably would make more
friends. Leave the 'CB' part out. I can't imagine that 20 meters is
any different than 'CB' is right now. Do you ever listen to it ?
Radio police all over every DXpedition, U.S. stations who get so
excited about working a 'new one' they operate out of band.  If you
ever get the opportunity, turn on a radio somewhere in the world when
the U.S. is on the other end. In a pileup situation, the Europeans
are worse than the U.S., but I can't imagine 'CB' or any other band
could be any worse than the ham bands when it comes to no manners
and lousy operating.
   As for the 'technical content' of a ham test, it's already been
replaced by the 'memorize the answers from the book' plan. With the
morse code gone, and the answers to questions in print, we have a
different ham radio than we used to have, but why does it have to
'CB'? I would imagine THOUSANDS of hams who have been hams LONG
before the no-code licenses were invented are people who used to
operate on 11 meters. Me included. I had to get off 11 meters before
I got caught, and I wanted to persue radio as a hobby, so amateur
radio was the next logical step. I would bet a very large percentage
of hams who have been licensed for 20 or more years were at some
time on 11 meters, but I also imagine some wouldn't admit it.
   Just because the people who are now influxing into the hobby
are DIFFERENT than you and I are, and have different interests,
doesn't mean they are in any way inferior. No-code techs are not
CB'ers, they are HAMS, just like you and me.
   New hams don't need to be called CB'ers, they need to be
introduced some other aspects of the hobby besides two meter FM.
We have a lot of 'no-code' guys here - most aren't, and probably
never will be, interested in the same things we are. But if you
and a bunch of other people would drop the 'CB' junk, maybe they
would feel like they are at least in the same hobby as we are
and start looking for other things to do. It doesn't bother me
that you are upset because your hobby has changed, a lot of people
are. If I still lived in a high stress environment like the U.S.,
I probably would be upset too. But it has changed. The 'old days'
are over. Nobody will ever reinstate the code test and burn all
the answer books. We have a 'motto' for life out here in the
Pacific, which consists of only two rules:

1. Don't sweat the small stuff.
2. Everything is small stuff.

Try it, your blood pressure might return to normal.....

73, Jim KH2D





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:25 1996
From: Jim Daneke <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CODE VS NO_CODE ......SOL
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:43:05 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jc41m$[e-mail]> <4jcslq$[e-mail]> <4jdj1s$[e-mail]>

> >Because first the code goes and then the technical content on the
> >test goes and then we have CB! Just look at 2 meters these days...
> >Imagine that on 20 meters!
>
> Jeff, I agree 100% that the code should stay.  However, I think the
> differences between 2M and 20M are due more to repeaters and
> propagation than to Morse ability.
>
> 73,
> Jack  WB3U

It might even get worse than CB and become 80 Meters...Here are the real
freaks...

Jim
KI0BB


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (andy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT'
Date: 28 Mar 1996 00:11:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4jclgb$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

I bought a slightly used C508a at a hamfest 2 months ago. I've had dozens
of different HTs over the years, but I can't remember one I enjoy more
than this. The 2 alkaline batteries last longer than I imagined; when I
feel wealthy (yeah, right) I put in a couple of AA lithiums which last
even longer.

The receiver is excellent, limited only by the unusually short dual band
antenna. The aircraft receive is the best I've seen yet, as is the 800 MHz
pickup.  Although I have no trouble hitting a few of the closer repeaters,
I use the 508 mostly as a scanner during my commute. And as a scanner,
it's the most fun scanner I've ever owned. Very inconspicuous, obviously.

For a rig this size, the audio output is not as bad as you might imagine.
The unit itself, manufactured for Standard by Marantz, appears to be very
solidly constructed. Aesthetically, it is considerably more pleasing
than Standard's 2-meter monobander of the same size.

One feature I really like is the absence of the squelch knob. The squelch
can be set to automatic, or to different S-units. I leave it on automatic
(which Standard actually refers to as "off", and it works just great.

I have only 2 complaints about the rig, and they're both pretty lame:

1.  The belt clip is really tight, and difficult to slip over a thicker
belt. Since it seems to be plastic (but very sturdy), it's hard, if not
impossible to re-shape it.

2.  The APO (automatic power-off feature) shuts the unit down if it does
not break squelch for the time period you select. I would have preferred
the APO to shut the unit down if you did not press any buttons during that
time period. As it is, it's possible for the unit to remain on forever as
long as it periodically hears a station. Interestingly, some of Standard's
other HTs work the way I prefer; I guess it depends on who the actual
manufacturer is.

So yeah, I would highly recommend the 508.  You'd be surprised at what 280
mw can do!!

-andy, k4adl



[e-mail] wrote:
: On  Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:53:31 GMT,  [e-mail] (Paul Rubin) wrote
:
: >Subject: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's
:
: >I'm interested in getting a tiny, lightweight 2m or dual band HT
: >(pref. dual band) for hiking, bicycling, etc.  The Standard C508a
: >is the lightest of the bunch, and incredibly small, like a belt
: >pager.  However, it is low powered (0.3 W) and doesn't have DTMF.
: >Any comments on how important these issues are or anything else
: >about this radio?  Any suggestions of other models?  Very compact
: >units only, please.  Thanks.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:28 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT'
Date: 27 Mar 96 17:39:20 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

On  Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:53:31 GMT,  [e-mail] (Paul Rubin) wrote

>Subject: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's

>I'm interested in getting a tiny, lightweight 2m or dual band HT
>(pref. dual band) for hiking, bicycling, etc.  The Standard C508a
>is the lightest of the bunch, and incredibly small, like a belt
>pager.  However, it is low powered (0.3 W) and doesn't have DTMF.
>Any comments on how important these issues are or anything else
>about this radio?  Any suggestions of other models?  Very compact
>units only, please.  Thanks.


This is a very handy "LITTLE" radio.

I use it at hamfests and such were low power is not a problem.

I have also used it a public service events to cross band off my mobile
radio. a feature I could also use on my regular sized HT ( a Standard C528).

I keep it in my backpack, and when the trains are running late, I listen to
the RR freq to see what the problem is. easy to do, the radio has 60
memories, no sweat to have some wierd stuff programmed in.

I also keep the NOAA programmed in to check the weather.

I can also hit a couple of close repeaters in the area, But I live near
Chicago, there are repeaters all over the place.

But like you said, not DTMF, so I dont plan on doing autopatch with it, but
as I said, I do have a mobile, and a regular HT.

Just so you know, it will also receive 350, 800 (cell blocked) and 120 am.

Hope that helps.


Frank "there i've said it, I feel better." Giampa


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Keitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's
Date: 27 Mar 1996 17:57:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbvht$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Paul Rubin) says:
>
>I'm interested in getting a tiny, lightweight 2m or dual band HT
>(pref. dual band) for hiking, bicycling, etc.  The Standard C508a
>is the lightest of the bunch, and incredibly small, like a belt
>pager.  However, it is low powered (0.3 W) and doesn't have DTMF.
>Any comments on how important these issues are or anything else
>about this radio?  Any suggestions of other models?  Very compact
>units only, please.  Thanks.

I have a 508 and like it quite a bit.  It is very small and light,
will work for a long time on a set of batteries, and covers both
2m and 440 MHz (though it really isn't what's usually called "dual
band" since it only receives one channel at a time, though the channel
can be in either band.)

Your situation will decide whether the 300mW power is adequate.  If you
are going to be near good repeaters, or working simplex among a
travelling group, it will be fine.  Further out in the "sticks", no HT
is really going to cut it, although a traditional 3-5 W "full power"
unit would be noticeably (10dB) better.  If you haven't yet, borrow
someone's HT and take it on a trip or two to get an idea of what you
will and won't be able to do.  The antenna on the 508 is OK considering
it's size, but it works well in the ham bands only; it is very poor for
receiving out of band signals, which is good for keeping "intermod" out,
but bad for weather radio channels, etc.  The 508 has a standard SMA
connector which allows external antennas to be connected.  As with
any HT, connecting *any* antenna other than the rubber stick yields
a substantial increase in range.

Similarly the lack of DTMF is something that depends on your situation.
If you need to be able to send DTMF once in a while, you could carry
one of those pocket dialers that used to be popular before all telephones
were equipped with DTMF.  The lack of a full keyboard also means that
frequencies can't be punched in directly, you have to VFO to them, so
most operation is done from memory channels.  Having only a few important
buttons and a "menu" of sorts for most settings, the radio is simple
to operate.

The other major limitation of the 508 that is probalby shared with any
"tiny" radio is that the speaker is not very loud.  The noise of a
moderatley crowded room or urban street is enough to drown it out even
with the volume all the way up.  A conventional speaker/mic interface is
provided however, so you can easily plug in an earphone, headphone, etc.

-Mike KD4QDM


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:31 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jens Goerke)
Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 19:30:11 GMT

Paul Rubin ([e-mail]) wrote:
> I'm interested in getting a tiny, lightweight 2m or dual band HT
> (pref. dual band) for hiking, bicycling, etc.  The Standard C508a
> is the lightest of the bunch, and incredibly small, like a belt
> pager.  However, it is low powered (0.3 W) and doesn't have DTMF.
> Any comments on how important these issues are or anything else
> about this radio?  Any suggestions of other models?  Very compact
> units only, please.  Thanks.

Hi, Paul!

I just bought a C508 yesterday (after long consideration) and
it's just great. I have had the C408 (the 70cm version) for
about a year now and the C508 definitely _is_ an improvement.

60 memory channels + 2 calling channels are more than enough
for my needs. Frequency range (RX) is 100-200, 300-500, 700-1000
MHz with AM capability, so it also works as a scanner. The
receiver is very sensitive and the transmitter will (here in DL)
always reach at least one repeater. CTCSS encoder and tone
squelch are built in right out of the box, but aren't of much
use for me yet. The C508 will fit even in the smallest shirt-
pocket and is light enough. Runs well on 2 AA cells, which will
last rather long.

To sum it all up: the C508 is the mature duoband version of the
C108/C408. The package also includes a belt-clip and a carry-strap
and (in DL) an SMA/BNC adapter.

Hope that helps,
        Jens, DB9LL
--
Missing coffee error - operator halted.

This message may not be distributed via the Microsoft Network.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:32 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Meyer Toole)
Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jbvht$[e-mail]>
Date: 29 Mar 96 01:43:07 GMT

I agree.
I bought my 508 at Dayton last year, and have really enjoyed it.
No DTMF, but loaded otherwise. It even has a 1750 Hz tone for European
operation.
Batteries last a long time, and the receiver is very sensitive.
Someone even has a fix to open up cellular receive, making it a 60
memory scanner.
Meyer.
VE3ECX

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Computer receiving CW - been done?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 10:10:00 GMT
Distribution: rec
Message-ID: <4j5rdo$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Jack M Twilley ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I've been reading a great circuit book -- "Master's Guide to
: Electronic Circuits", Harry L. Helms, ISBN 0-13-559790-0 -- and came
: across two circuits which I'm very tempted to assemble.

: One of them is titled "Simple 3580-kHz Receiver", and the description
: says it's 'designed to receive code practice and bulletins' from W1AW.

: The other is titled "Morse Code to Microcomputer Interface", and is
: supposed to 'allow conversion of received Morse code characters into
: characters displayed on a terminal.'

: It seems like the perfect solution to learning code -- live fresh
: training, not tapes, with the added bonus of an accurate translation
: on the screen.  The micro interface was written for the VIC-20, so I
: think a small bit of porting will be necessary, and some software will
: need to be written.

: Any thoughts or ideas?
: Jack.

Jack, there's a ton of hardware been around for years to copy morse code.
Most of the newer packet TNC's will do it too. No amount of hardware
piled up on your desk connected to the radio is gonna make YOU learn
Morse code. You have to do that with the grey stuff between your ears.
It's like going to the proctologist, Jack. The sooner you do it and get
it over with, the sooner you will feel better. Stop looking for an easy
way and start doing it the hard way, like everybody else..... you may
be pleasantly suprised that it's not near as bad as going to the dentist.


73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (jerry wang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CW Training Software
Date: 25 Mar 1996 03:18:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4j539q$[e-mail]>


There is a CW Training software available at http://www.csun.edu/~hbcsc274
called One-CW.  It is under the Software section once you get to the page.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:36 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Dealer E-Mail & WebPages
Date: 22 Mar 1996 18:25:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4iurb2$[e-mail]>

For those looking for and wanting E-Mail addresses of dealers
and manufacturers as well as links to dealer webpages, check
the definitive listings at:

DealerEmail   http://www.pinsight.com/~cestro/pcdemail.html
DealerLinks   http://www.pinsight.com/~cestro/pcdlinks.html

... a combined total of over 350 and growing, continually
updated.  A feature of the K6PBT Dealer Directory found on
many PacketCluster(tm) nodes as SH/DEALER.

73, Chuck
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:36 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 21:20:53 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Edward Stafford
<[e-mail]> writes
>I've always wanted a NOT gate.

When is a gate NOT a gate?

Mike

Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:37 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 10:01:39 +0000
Distribution: uk
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]>

In article <4ir51i$[e-mail]>, Peter Reed
<[e-mail]> writes
>Hi Edward. I'm afraid that whenever you post to this news group you have
>to be prepared for someone to pick holes in just about anything you
>write and the whole thing will end up way off topic. The best policy is
>to ignore the idiots and be selective as to what you read.
>
>I'm sure the guy who responded above knew exactly what you meant but had
>nothing better to do than pick holes in, MAYBE, a slight grammatical
>double meaning.

Why does everybody take life so seriously?

OK so some of us have a mischevious nature, but the necessary
information was still imparted, even if not by the perpetrator of the
*humour*.

Mike - who finds it difficult to take most things seriously - especially
this ng!
Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (anonymous)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 13:22:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4j8r2i$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

For ****'* sake, I'm the one who originally enquired about the test and if
it involved any practical work.

Just for all the old farts who come on here throwing their opinions left, righ
t and centre without any knowledge
of the sender's original abilities.

1 - I've been involved with radio myself for quite a while and know fully well
the various callsigns, the 'Q' code, I've learnt morse, blah, blah, blah and B
LAH!

2 - I'm heavily into computers and know my way around the various components o
f a
circuit board.

Things that people say like:-

'Myself and many people I know spent years SWL'ing using homebrew
receivers, modified ex-govt gear etc before we got round to taking the
RAE. '

just cut no ice with me at all. I like radio for what it is. Non-visual commun
ication, repeaters,
 satellites, beacons and televisual transmission.


But having people come on here waffling how good it was in the good ol' days.

Well I have nodesire to become like one of the good ol' boys.

Thanks.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:40 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:16:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4jb82l$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]>

anonymous ([e-mail]) wrote:
: For ****'* sake, I'm the one who originally enquired about the test and if
: it involved any practical work.

: Just for all the old farts who come on here throwing their opinions left, ri
ght and centre without any knowledge
: of the sender's original abilities.

: 1 - I've been involved with radio myself for quite a while and know fully we
ll
: the various callsigns, the 'Q' code, I've learnt morse, blah, blah, blah and
 BLAH!

: 2 - I'm heavily into computers and know my way around the various components
 of a
: circuit board.

: Things that people say like:-

: 'Myself and many people I know spent years SWL'ing using homebrew
: receivers, modified ex-govt gear etc before we got round to taking the
: RAE. '

: just cut no ice with me at all. I like radio for what it is. Non-visual comm
unication, repeaters,
:  satellites, beacons and televisual transmission.


: But having people come on here waffling how good it was in the good ol' days
.

: Well I have nodesire to become like one of the good ol' boys.

: Thanks.

--With your "attitude" problem, you have no fear of becoming one of the
  "good ol' boys".  You will very likely remain a bitter, antisocial,
  bigoted group of one.

  It's funny really.  You accuse others of intolerance for points of view
  that do not coincide with your own, then attack these others with your
  own intolerance.  Hypocritical?

  The "old farts" cheap shot I see over and over in postings by what I
  presume are those under-25ish.  It seems to speak of a hatred and an
  implied violence for those who, by an accident of birth, enjoyed a
  better time to live.  Yes, the '90s are brutal and hard, but why bash
  the last generation or two for it?

  Amateur Radio is for everyone; young and old, technical and not-so-
  technical, morse and phone and packet, experimenter and rag-chewer.

  Abusive arrogance it does *not* need.





                   /|
                  / |
                 /__|
              ______|_____
              \          /
     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     [e-mail]






From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Kolb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 16:26:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jbq76$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Michael J Wooding ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>, Edward Stafford
: <[e-mail]> writes
: >I've always wanted a NOT gate.

: When is a gate NOT a gate?

When it's AJAR.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:44:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9vod$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j8r2i$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (anonymous) wrote:

>But having people come on here waffling how good it was in the good ol' days.

>Well I have no desire to become like one of the good ol' boys.

At least they do not perceive a need to conceal their identities.
Why do you?

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson               E-mail: [e-mail]
                                    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dont read : test
Date: 24 Mar 1996 12:21:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4j3ene$[e-mail]>
References: <4j3cdj$[e-mail]>

In article <4j3cdj$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Malezet Je
an-Pierre F6FLV) says:
>
>I would like to download my software (about CWMS) on a ftp.Host.
>I try few time but the host denied the autorisation to download it.
>
>Can someone can help me : give me a permissive ham host ?
>
>TKS, Jean-Pierre, [e-mail]
>
>73 QRO

Test de rΘponse


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:43 1996
From: Richard Murnane VK2SKY <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DX GROUP RE-UNION IN SYDNEY
Date: 23 Mar 1996 05:48:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4j03c1$[e-mail]>
References: <4ith2n$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Hi Dave,

If you send me details, I'll be happy to put it on the WIA
broadcast for VK2...

73 Richard VK2SKY




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:45 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: "Domingo Molejon V." <[e-mail]>
Subject: DX LUGO AWARD
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 23:22:09 +0100

From: "Domingo Molejon V." <[e-mail]>
Subject: DX LUGO AWARD
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 23:22:09 +0100
Organization: Lander Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

These are the rules for "DX LUGO AWARD":

                                    DX LUGO AWARD

The "AWARD LUGO" is given for the Group DX LUGO to all the radioamateurs and S
WL,GRATUITOUSLY and
have the next characteristics: its size is of 44 X 32 ems., it's printed in li
thography with
many colours and its design was made by people of the famous ceramic art facto
ry "SARGADELOS":

"LUGO DX GROUP" issues this award according to the following rules:

1.- Contacts with Group members, except repeaters, after January 1st, 1983

2.- Contacts required are:
    - Spain.......15
    - Europe...... 5
    - And DX...... 3

3.- The same station can be contacted in different band, but only one contact
after 24 hours with
the same station.

4.- Applicants must send QSL or certificate list by one Radio Association QSL
will be returned by
registered mail. FREE AWARD.

5.- SWL the same rules

                       MEMBERS OF "LUGO DX GROUP"

EA1:  AAA (ex: EClDNO y AO1DNO), AAB (ex:  EB1EQQ, EC1DLB y AO1DLB), ABC, ACI,
 ADN, AEV, AFQ,
ARG, AUI, AUZ, AVW, BCA, BCB, BCD (ex: EHlBCB), BCT (ex: EC1DDI), BDT, BDU, BD
V, BFT, BID, BIL,
BJL, BJO, BJP, BPS, BPT, BVO, BVP, BVQ, BVS, BWH, CB (ex:EAIDFH), CDA, CJU, CJ
V, CKD, CKE, CKH,
CMX, CMY, CO (ex: EAlCYU), CTD, CW (ex:EDlCW, EDlFSF=Oct.89, EFlFSF=Oct.89, ED
1IDA=Jun.91,
ED1ILT=Sep.92 y ED0VDL=Sep.95), CYT, CYU, DAX (ex: EClBCA, ED1DAX y AM1DAX), D
CT (ex: EB1AUB),
OFE (ex. EClBJW), DHV, DJT (ex: EBlAYM, ED1DJT y ED1MFE), DLB, DLE, DQV, DSV,
DWL (ex: EBlBMO),
DWM (ex:EBlBMP), ECG, EDS (ex. EClCDH), FBX (ex: EClDBC), FDN (ex: EC1DEQ), FD
O (ex: EClDEO,
AM1FDO y AO1DEO), FEQ (ex: EC1DFN, AOlDFN y AM1FEQ), FFN (ex: EC1DEZ), GO (ex:
EAlABW), GU,
IF (ex: EAlCYV, AM1IF y EClARO), JO (ex: AMlJO), JP (ex: EAlBNW y EDlJP), KN (
ex: EClCTH, AOlCTH,
EFlAA y ED1KN), ML, MV (ex: EDlMV, AMlMV, EDlRTY, EDlPAL),OJ, QB, QU, US (ex:
EClCEG y EAlEVY),
VM, VZ, WM, WN, ZA.

EA8: TE (ex: EA1QT).

EB1: BBU, BML, CEU, DHX, FIF, WL

EC1: AMQ.

Address: "GRUPO DX LUGO"
          Manager "Diploma DX LUGO"
          P.O. Box. 313
          E-27O80 LUGO (Spain)


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:46 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DXer looking for ham to answer questions
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:52:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf8rq$[e-mail]>

    I have been DXing for years and am looking for someone who would
be willing to answer a few questions by direct E-Mail. I am
considering buying a general coverage tranciever and would like to get
some tips as to what to look for and what is best suited for a
"Greenhorn" who is trying to break the ice. Basically I'm trying to
avoid learning the hard way. Anyone licenced as an amateur who would
be willing to explain a few thing regarding the"rope", I'd appreciate
a response at [e-mail]
                Thanks in advance.
                                        Joe (Phila)....



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Thomas)
Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4icjm2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:42:46 GMT

My newsreader claims that S. Sampson ([e-mail]) wrote:

 (**stuff deleted**)

: You're dreaming.  First of all, the frequencies are available because
: of a population.  Your proposal would cut the population to a few
: thousand, and lose authorization.  The FCC will not allow a small
: segment of the population to control huge frequency blocks.  No matter
: how technical that population is.

They won't? How many people do you think actually CONTROL the broadcast
media? Far fewer than the total amateur population. And broadcast (AM, FM, TV)
has a LOT more spectrum than amateur radio. For example, of all spectrum
below 100MHz, broadcast has nearly half of it. If you include all of the
FM broadcast band (to 108MHz), the broadcasters have more than half of
it!

: My second view, is that AM, FM, SSB, FSK etc be abolished.  At no time will
: an Amateur operate on one frequency for more than 100 ms (milli-seconds).
: Each band segment should be fully converted to Spread Spectrum.  An agreed
: on protocol for channelization.

Naw... you'd outlaw direct sequence that way - probably a better way.
However, the govies are unlikely to allow much in the way of effective SS
because it would provide communications that are much more difficult to
monitor. Like you said, you're dreaming...
--
*********************************************************************
* "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."              *
*                                                                   *
*  [e-mail]  - Glenn Thomas                                  *
*********************************************************************


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian [e-mail])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:49:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4j977n$[e-mail]>
References: <4icjm2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Glenn Thomas) writes:
>>My newsreader claims that S. Sampson ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>
>> (**stuff deleted**)
>>
>>: You're dreaming.  First of all, the frequencies are available because
>>: of a population.  Your proposal would cut the population to a few
>>: thousand, and lose authorization.  The FCC will not allow a small
>>: segment of the population to control huge frequency blocks.  No matter
>>: how technical that population is.
>>
>>They won't? How many people do you think actually CONTROL the broadcast
>>media? Far fewer than the total amateur population. And broadcast (AM, FM, T
V)
>>has a LOT more spectrum than amateur radio. For example, of all spectrum
>>below 100MHz, broadcast has nearly half of it. If you include all of the
>>FM broadcast band (to 108MHz), the broadcasters have more than half of
>>it!

>The number of people who control the broadcast media is irrelevant.
>The number of people who *use* the broadcast media is the relevant
>population, and that's vast, nearly the entire public. You don't
>measure a newspaper by how many presses it has, you measure it by
>how many copies it sells. It's the audience that counts when determining
>usage of broadcast spectrum.

>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addres
ses
>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

Goes a bit further than that.  One judges a newspaper
by what's in it.  Never mind how many presses, etc.
The analogy isn't quite valid, though, for the principal
reason that there is no shortage of paper, like there is
on spectrum space.  Fair to say the broadcasters have
more space than anybody else, but only because video
requires such a massive bandwidth.  Nonetheless, the
public (bless them, in all their ignorance) could give
a stuff less about spectrum allocations, propagation,
etc, so long as Johnny's CB handheld doesn't cause TVI
and they get all the channels a local 'caster puts out.

Control???  Ask a broadcaster what he pays for an annual
license fee (for a SPOT freq.)  Ask a R/E agent or
courier what they pay for a SPOT freq.

With the instability of a very greedy gov't over here,
and considering all the complaints of "Chooks" on 2m,
we are literally sweating our rocks off that we're going to
lose the band.  The rest of Asia has already pinched
2 megs of it for taxis, etc.

Uncle Brian  VK6BQN




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:49 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: [e-mail] (Matt Roberts)
Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:24:42 GMT
References: <4icjm2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

> The FCC will not allow a small segment of the population to control huge fre
quency blocks.
>  No matter how technical that population is.

Really...has anyone seen the effect of the PCS auctions??  Independant (i.e. n
ot gov't)
companies are buying, yes BUYING large blocks of microwave frequencies.  No, t
he FCC
won't allow a small group to CONTROL huge frequecy blocks...they'll just sell
them to these
people!

How about that...the government selling radio frequencies...
----
Matt Roberts, KK5JY,
[e-mail]





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 96 06:46:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4jg1cj$[e-mail]>
References: <4icjm2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Matt Roberts) wrote:

>How about that...the government selling radio frequencies...

Actually, they're not.  The F.C.C. is accepting money in exchange for
licenses.  A license isn't a deed of title and it can be modified or
restricted after the fact (or even revoked).

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs. See if they sell!
Date: 28 Mar 1996 21:00:13 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jeukt$[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article [e-mail], [e-mail]
(Homebrew) writes:

>How many HF rigs do you people think the manufactures could sell without
>CW on them?  Without filters?
>
>- - + + +     + + + - -     Len

Hi Len,

..  .-- --- ..- .-.. -..  .... --- .--. .  -. --- -  .-  --- -. .  .-.-.-


--... ...--  -.. .

Paul  KT4DI
Weekdays: 407-724-7879
Internet: [e-mail]
Packet: KT4DI @ KT4DI.#MLBFL.FL.USA.NA




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Homebrew)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: 27 Mar 1996 01:15:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]>
Keywords: CW is Best

How many HF rigs do you people think the manufactures could sell without
CW on them?  Without filters?



--
- - + + +     + + + - -     Len



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:53 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:06:16 GMT
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Homebrew) wrote:
>How many HF rigs do you people think the manufactures could sell without
>CW on them?  Without filters?
>
I don't know, does anyone have a count of the number of CB rigs that
have been sold in the US?

Seriously, though the HR2510 did allow CW operation, it all but prevented
it by awkward channel spacing and the absence of any kind of standard key
connector.  They sold 'em like hotcakes.  The CW guys just weren't the
market segment they were going for.
--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:54 1996
From: Kevin Schmidt <kschmidt>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:30:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf3um$[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]>

As a historical note, I believe that the SBE-33 and SBE-34 manufactured
in the mid 60s did not have CW capabilities built in. A lot of those
sold even though the receiver had fairly awful intermod problems due
among other things to the use of bilateral circuits. Compared to
of other rigs of that era they were small and were popular for mobiles.

The Atlas 210 (mid 70s) had a key jack, but the vfo didn't cover the cw bands.
You could adjust a trimmer to swing it down there, but then it
wasn't calibrated and you lost the upper part of the phone bands.
The Atlas 210x did cover the full cw bands.

Kevin Schmidt [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:46:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4jdd05$[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jcubu$[e-mail]> <4jd34p$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:

>On another note, there is the often quoted "38%" figure.  This is the
>percentage of amateurs that the ARRL concluded use HF CW, in a study
>done about 5 years ago.  So, if this number is to be believed,
>perhaps as many as 60% of amateurs probably would probably consider
>buying an HF radio without a CW mode.

I don't think there's a direct connection between the number of hams
using CW and the number of non-CW rigs that would be sold.  Even if I
only worked SSB, I would never buy a non-CW rig, simply because the
number of potential purchasers would be that much smaller when I
eventually sold it.  For the same reason, no manufacturer would build
an all-band HF rig without CW unless he had an idiot for a marketing
manager.  That's especially true considering the almost insignificant
cost to include CW in a SSB rig.  Anyway, if they did build such a
rig, resultant sales figures might have little or nothing to do with
the number of potential users who work CW.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:47:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4jeua5$[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]> <4jcubu$[e-mail]> <4jd34p$[e-mail]> <4jdd05$[e-mail]> <4jdf4s$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:

>However, the cost to include a good CW capability in an SSB radio
>is not necessarily insignificant.

Geez, I can't win even when I agree with you. <g>  An examination
of all the HF transceivers manufactured since 1970 shows that the
majority were made CW-capable by the addition of the following:

     Sidetone oscillator
     Key jack
     Connections for optional CW filter(s)
     Extra position on the Mode switch

Yes, a fully-equipped CW rig has much more, but I think that's not
really what we're talking about.  Someone who never works and never
plans to work CW is unlikely to spend money for CW refinement in
excess of the features listed above.  However, that same person would
probably still hesitate to purchase a rig that had no CW capability at
all.  Simply put, no one wants to buy a new transceiver that is
immediately incompatible with what is perceived to be a basic mode of
operation used by other hams.

Thus . . . .

The arguably limited sales of an SSB-only rig does not mean that any
particular number of operators are still using CW (only a *perception*
that they exist in reasonable numbers is required), nor is it an
indicator of the life or usefulness left in that mode.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:36:59 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:42:28 GMT
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]> <4jf3um$[e-mail]> <4jgp3t$[e-mail]>

Jim Cummings <[e-mail]> wrote:
>It would be interesting to spectulate on the market penetration for a CW
>only rig by the mainstream manufacturers.  I suspect that it would be
>much less that a SSB only rig, but that is my opinion only.  Further
>discussion or speculation or both would be interesting.

I was never a mainstream manufacturer, but when I was putting CB rigs
on 10m and 12m about 6 years ago, I built rigs for all modes: AM, FM,
SSB, CW, and combinations.  I did build one conversion for 12m CW, and
it was CW only.  It did sell.  Of course, the swapfests where I was
setting these up for sale were frequented by all kinds of hams, and at
the price range I was selling them, no one was interested in resale
value.

Boy do I wish the spots would come back so I could work some more
10m AM up above 29.000.  CQ ten-AM phone!  Where is everybody?

73,

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:27:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf3o1$[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]> <4jdd05$[e-mail]> <4jdf4s$[e-mail]> <4jeua5$[e-mail]>

In article <4jeua5$[e-mail]>,
WB3U <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Thus . . . .
>
>The arguably limited sales of an SSB-only rig does not mean that any
>particular number of operators are still using CW (only a *perception*
>that they exist in reasonable numbers is required), nor is it an
>indicator of the life or usefulness left in that mode.

For once, we're in total agreement... it happens every now and again...

By the way, *I* think there's life and usefulness (if even just
recreational) left in CW.  I just don't think CW is as important
to the licensing process as it may have once been.  I believe we
could drop the CW requirement *entirely* tomorrow, and there would
still be plenty of CW activity in the ham bands ten years from now.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:01 1996
From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 08:51:51 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]> <4jblfn$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4jblfn$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Will Flor" writes:

> Most HF rigs don't come with decent CW filters.
> They all come with decent SSB filters.
>
> They sell.

So do the add-on CW filters.
So do external audio filters (ask MFJ).
So do DSP filters.

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:03 1996
From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: 29 Mar 1996 13:38:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4jgp3t$[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]> <4jf3um$[e-mail]>

Kevin Schmidt <kschmidt> wrote:
>As a historical note, I believe that the SBE-33 and SBE-34 manufactured
>in the mid 60s did not have CW capabilities built in. A lot of those
>sold even though the receiver had fairly awful intermod problems due
>among other things to the use of bilateral circuits. Compared to
>of other rigs of that era they were small and were popular for mobiles.
>
>The Atlas 210 (mid 70s) had a key jack, but the vfo didn't cover the cw bands
.
>You could adjust a trimmer to swing it down there, but then it
>wasn't calibrated and you lost the upper part of the phone bands.
>The Atlas 210x did cover the full cw bands.
>
>Kevin Schmidt [e-mail]
>

In addition, there was the Heathkit HW 12, 22 and 32 series of monoband
SSB-only rigs.  I suspect, however, that their popularity was more due to
that this was a reasonably priced option to getting SSB capabilities,
rather than to save a few pennies from not having CW.  I suspect that the
market for these radioes fell out when Heath introduced the SB- and
HW-100 series.

It would be interesting to spectulate on the market penetration for a CW
only rig by the mainstream manufacturers.  I suspect that it would be
much less that a SSB only rig, but that is my opinion only.  Further
discussion or speculation or both would be interesting.

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ






From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (James E. Bromley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: 29 Mar 1996 14:31:01 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jcubu$[e-mail]> <4jd34p$[e-mail]> <4jdd05$[e-mail]>


> Even if I
>only worked SSB, I would never buy a non-CW rig, simply because the
>number of potential purchasers would be that much smaller when I
>eventually sold it.  For the same reason, no manufacturer would build
>an all-band HF rig without CW unless he had an idiot for a marketing
>manager.

I would never buy a non-CW rig because then I wouldn't be able to
tune up at maximum power. ;-)




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Keith A Monahan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Equipment to purchase
Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:05:08 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf2ek$[e-mail]>

Heya people - I just purchased an Alinco DJ-580T and need to pick up some
accessories but I'm not quite sure of brand quality, what to get, etc

Incidentally, for those of you who don't know. The DJ-580T is a dual-band
handheld transciever.

First off I want 3 different types of antennas. I want a mobile antennae
for my car, preferrably magmount.  Next, I want a better rubber-duckie
as this short stubby one doesnt do me much justice(or does it? its an alinco
EA0021 vhf/uhf antennae).  Next I want one for my home - dunno if I have to
hang it out my window.  Can someone please explain the difference between
1/4 wave, 5/8 wave, etc? Which is the best?

Next, I need an amp - preferably one that handles dual-band but from what
i've seen I'm not going to find a relatively inexpensive two band amp. My
HT has normally like 3 watt output, 5 watt output with the bigger, better
battery(which Ill be getting to).  I definitely need the amp to cover
the 140mhz region and I would like to be up around 30 watts from my 5 watt
input.  If a dual-band amp is too expensive, I don't really want to purchase
a seperate amp as it won't get much use anyways.

I also need a battery. Ive seen several battery replacement type things in
amateur radio and CQ but Im not quite sure about quality, total usage time
per charge, total charge time, etc.  It would help if you knew that my radio
takes about 800ma 12V battery(optimally, I think I currently have a 800ma
7V) I need something fairly portable.  Has to be able to fit in a jacket
pocket or at least a convienent size for taking to/from car. My current
battery lasts a couple days with a decent amount of transmitting/receiving.

Yet another thing I want to check into is a frequency counter.  I bought
radio shacks freq counter whenever it was on sale for 79.99.  I found out
it has become a piece of dog doo doo. Maybe I'm expecting too much of a freq
counter.  I want to be able to be across a mall (15 feet) and pick up the
freq of a security guard transmitting from a 2watt handheld.  I wanna be
across the street and pick up a transmitting police officer.  If I can't
do these things I don't really understand the purpose of having a freq counter
Now I tested the radio shack one outside, and in line of sight it picked up
my 3watt trans freq perfectly.

Also - if anyone has frequency lists, outside of standard police call and
beyond police call material I would love it... Pittsburgh Pennsylvania is
the area.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and thanks in advance to those who
reply.  Commercial replies welcome.  If possible, please reply by e-mail as
I don't always get time to keep up with the usenet groups.

Keith



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:06 1996
From: William W. Munsil <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Esperanto vs Klingon
Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:49:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4j7etu$[e-mail]>

There has been some discusion here about the International Language,
Esperanto versus the made for tv language Klingon.
BTW, Klingo means knife blade in Esperanto.  Esperanto (one who hopes)
doesn't exist in Klingon.  In other words, there's no hope for Klingon.

Latest figures for Esperanto speakers vary between 600 000 to 2 000 000
people in over 100 countries!  Over 75 countries have national Esperanto
societies.

Esperanto is similar to ham radio in that if you are not involved with it,
you don't have any realistic idea of what is going on.

So, you know where you can put your "language" Klingon!
--

---
B I L from Yarnell AZ, USA    N7AOU Ham TV.
Lernu Esperanton!
Learn Esperanto!
800-828-5944 or
[e-mail]
/--------------------------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:07 1996
From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: facts and figures on uk ham radio
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 10:40:52 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail]  writes:

>                      UK/USA Amateur Radio Figures 1995
>                      =================================
>
>              Population   No of Hams
>
> UK  1995     60,000,000     60,000
> USA 1995    250,000,000    672,600
>

snip

>                  UK/USA Radio Society Membership
>                  ===============================
>
>                   1990       1995
> RSGB Membership  35,000     30,000
> ARRL Membership 156,000    172,000

snip

Yup, Bert has shown us all how badly the RSGB must suck.  But before we
close the book on this matter, let's try just one more cut on Bert's
own numbers. What is the proportion of hams in each country who chose
to join their national amateur radio societies in 1995, the only year for
which Bert gives us sufficient data?

UK & RSBG     50.0%
USA & ARRL    25.6%

Damn, the RSGB has TWICE the membership level as a proportion of amateurs
versus the ARRL. That is inconveniently inconsistent with Bert's political
message.

Hey chaps, can we all keep this under wraps, please?  Now where the hell is
that delete key?

BTW, I am a member of the RSGB and the ARRL and I applaud them both.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Derek Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Famous Hams
Date: 26 Mar 1996 02:23:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4j7ket$[e-mail]>

>> SV2ASP/A Monk Apollo

Can someone explain to me what Monk Apollo is famous for outside
amateur radio?

Derek "not famous" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:09 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Famous Hams
Date: 30 Mar 1996 16:15:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4jjmn5$[e-mail]>
References: <4j7ket$[e-mail]>

>   [e-mail] (Derek Wills) writes:
>  >> SV2ASP/A Monk Apollo
>
>  Can someone explain to me what Monk Apollo is famous for outside
>  amateur radio?
>
>  Derek "not famous" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
>  Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
>  Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
>  [e-mail]
>
>>>>
how about bar b que chicken

after all....he is a friar   yuck yuck yuck


or

maybe he's responsible for all the locked doors

maybe he is the keeper of the ......monk's keys    hoo hoo hooo


steve


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:32:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4iqm3f$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]> <4ih7uk$[e-mail]> <4imgge$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Kelly Gray) wrote:

>[e-mail] wrote:
>: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>: >>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
>: >>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
>: >>Telephony software ILLEGAL.

>: Sorry but the I'net does use RF in comm satellites.  In any case,
>: Congress can create a jurisdiction at will, and if enough folks want
>: it, they will get it, and the liberal courts will find the necessary
>: language to uphold it.

What are they going to outlaw?  See below.

>Keep in mind that the Internet is no longer a USA only network, it has many
>nodes in other contries. Regardless of what laws the US Congress may pass,
>those of us outside the United States are free to ignore them if we choose
>to do so.

Add to that the fact that the FCC can not stop the technology that
permits the Internet phone.  The majority of internet phone technology
is software, not hardware.  Is the FCC going to outlaw Internet Phone
software?  I really doubt it.




Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:11 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 23:19:00 -0600
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]> <4ik24s$[e-mail]>

KD> In article <4idf5n$[e-mail]>,
KD> Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
KD> >>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise
KD> >>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet
KD> >>Telephony software ILLEGAL.
KD> >
KD> >Get a clue!  The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not
KD> >utilize radio frequency spectrum.  They cannot "create" jurisdiction over
KD> >something that is not within their domain.

KD> Woops.. get a clue yourself. The FCC does indeed have some jurisdiction ov
e
KD> the internet since alot of the traffic goes across common carrier lines.

The FCC should not lose focus that Internet audio is a different quality
and grade of service than the regular common carrier interstate long
distance telephone service.

It's about time that technology caught up with some of the assumptions
made in establishing telephone rates.

Consider the price of a transistor in 1960, vs. the price today.
Products using transistors have decreased in price significantly over
the years.  Meanwhile, the price of telephone services, taken as a
whole, has gone up significantly.

Maybe such a petition will cause the FCC to look at some of the
assumptions made about telephone rates, and give the public the
opportunity to comment.

     Regards, TOM BLACKWELL, N5GAR, PO Box 25403, Dallas, Texas 75225
              [e-mail]          [e-mail]
     ARRL SGL-North Texas    Sysop, NTPCUG TI PRO BBS: [phone]
              Join 2200+ Members of the NTPCUG, discussing hardware &
              software at the Dallas Infomart

---
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:12 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]> <4ih7uk$[e-mail]> <4imgge$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:06:37 GMT

In article <4imgge$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kelly Gray)
 writes:
>
>Keep in mind that the Internet is no longer a USA only network, it has many
>nodes in other contries. Regardless of what laws the US Congress may pass,
>those of us outside the United States are free to ignore them if we choose
>to do so.
>
> There is no way the FCC can be given jurisdiction over the entire Internet
>for the simple reason that nobody has the authority to give them that
>jurisdiction.

That's true. The FCC's jurisdiction stops at the border. But the FCC
can cut off the internet at the border if they choose. We've already
seen the German government insist that content be filtered at their
border, and the FCC could do the same for the US border. That would
have an enormous impact on the internet. Every posting and every piece
of Email and every file and every data stream would have to be vetted
by a gateway at the border before being allowed to cross. That would
pose an enormous logistical problem to the net, one large enough that
it could effectively kill the net as a worldwide entity for practical
purposes. Most internet traffic crosses the US border, sometimes more
than once, even if its ultimate destination is outside the US. Blockages
at the borders would have the same effect as blockages of the coronary
arteries, it could give the internet a heart attack from which it couldn't
recover.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kelly Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: 25 Mar 1996 14:52:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6c00$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]> <4ih7uk$[e-mail]> <4imgge$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4imgge$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kelly Gra
y) writes:
: >
: >Keep in mind that the Internet is no longer a USA only network, it has many
: >nodes in other contries. Regardless of what laws the US Congress may pass,
: >those of us outside the United States are free to ignore them if we choose
: >to do so.
: >
: > There is no way the FCC can be given jurisdiction over the entire Internet
: >for the simple reason that nobody has the authority to give them that
: >jurisdiction.

: That's true. The FCC's jurisdiction stops at the border. But the FCC
: can cut off the internet at the border if they choose. We've already
: seen the German government insist that content be filtered at their
: border, and the FCC could do the same for the US border. That would
: have an enormous impact on the internet. Every posting and every piece
: of Email and every file and every data stream would have to be vetted
: by a gateway at the border before being allowed to cross. That would
: pose an enormous logistical problem to the net, one large enough that
: it could effectively kill the net as a worldwide entity for practical
: purposes. Most internet traffic crosses the US border, sometimes more
: than once, even if its ultimate destination is outside the US. Blockages
: at the borders would have the same effect as blockages of the coronary
: arteries, it could give the internet a heart attack from which it couldn't
: recover.

  [sig snipped]

That's possible, but it's not the only possibility. As the German government
discovered, the Internet can be a very difficult beast to tame. While
having the US block traffic would hurt the net, it might not kill it. If
enough people outside the US decide to create new links to bypass the
blockage by avoiding the US altogether, the result would be that the US
would have effectively isolated itself from the rest of the electronic world.
Neither outcome is  very happy, and probably not what the authors of any such
legislation would have in mind, but then politics never did have a whole
lot to do with either reality or helping people.

<o_o>
Kelly Gray



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:29:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4jciu9$[e-mail]>
References: <ljackson.826932331@kudo> <4idf5n$[e-mail]> <4ih7uk$[e-mail]> <4imgge$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>In article <4imgge$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kelly Gray
) writes:
>>Keep in mind that the Internet is no longer a USA only network, it has many
>>nodes in other contries. Regardless of what laws the US Congress may pass,
>>those of us outside the United States are free to ignore them if we choose
>>to do so.

>That's true. The FCC's jurisdiction stops at the border. But the FCC
>can cut off the internet at the border if they choose.

But the practicality of that is so extreme, the courts wouldn't
let it happen.

>We've already seen the
>German government insist that content be filtered at their border,

The German courts only demanded certain newsgroups be dropped
by one ISP.  They did nothing to address German citizens accessing
XXX rated web sites, or the banned newsgroups via alternative
methods (i.e. having a friend outside Germany forward every
post from one or more of the banned newsgroups).  In the end,
didn't the one ISP impacted make the specified newsgroups
unavailable to only their German customers by some ISP
specific filter?

>and the FCC could do the same for the US border.

Not without a major public battle first and the followed
with court battle.  Just look at the CDA
court case already working its way in the judicial process.

>That would
>have an enormous impact on the internet. Every posting and every piece
>of Email and every file and every data stream would have to be vetted
>by a gateway at the border before being allowed to cross.

Which raises major issues of privacy alone.

>That would pose an enormous logistical problem to the net, one large
>enough that it could effectively kill the net as a worldwide entity for
>practical purposes.

Which, again, is exactly why it will never happen.  Add to that the
ability to encrypt and the logistics gets even more far fetched.
The FCC does not simply rule for or against things without significant
input from both sides of any pending rulemaking (and, it would
take a formal rulemaking for the FCC to demand full monitoring of
all internet US boundaries).

This entire issue becomes one of practicality versus any real
effort to thwart the internet's growth or international connectivity.
So...while it is true that the FCC may have the power to invoke such
draconian measures, the practical aspects of doing it coupled
with the public input (rulemaking) process will not see it ever
happen.  And...even if it did, the court process would immediately
be instituted by many organizations as is the current case with
the anti-CDA supporters (ACLU, EFF, et al).
Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Meinken)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:29:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

DM>From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)

DM>The point of my paragraph is that many non-ham radio people perceive
DM>amateur radio as being of little or no value.  Eventually, these perce
DM>influence how the service is treated by the FCC.

Dana,

It's not only non-hams who have that perception.

Personally, I fail to see see ham radio as having any significant value.
At best, I think it has limited value in two areas:

1) As a way to attract *some* kids to technology, an interest which may
later develop further.  Probably only happens to a small percentage and
ham radio is not really essential to the process.

2) as a hobby from which an individual perceives some satisfaction.

I view ham radio as providing very little in *real* public service.  Those
days are far in the past.  Parades and track meets, etc. went on perfectly
well before we developed 2m FM.

Before the flamers decend on me and claim that I don't know anything
about ham radio, let me mention my experiences:
Ham for 32 years, Extra for 25.  High level NTS operation, high level
ARPSC, RACES RO, State Mars CW Officer, Packet BBS Op (in the early days
of Packet networking). I have operated all bands from 160 through 220.  I
was operating 6 and 2 meters before repeaters and even before FM became
popular.

As for emergency service, I spent 15 years in the fire and ems service.
When I was new, I thought that ham radio could help.  When I had
experience under my belt, I realized that it could help very little.

"International good will"? I really don't see what goodwill comes of the
"Ugly Americans" piling up for a 20 second "579 OH, 73" contact.

Technology development? I don't think so.  Most of our newer technologies
have been developed FROM commercial technologies, not the other way
around.  Technology moves too fast today to wait for any developments from
ham radio.

My current ham radio interest is in increasing my cw speed. Not because it
has any value to anyone, but because I find cw more enjoyable at higher
speeds.

IMO, if ham radio totally disappeared today, I think the only significant
effect would be the economic affect on the manufacturers.

Please don't misunderstand.  I am certainly not against ham radio.  Its
just that I think its real value is grossly overinflated.

73, Ken  WA8JXM

--- WinQwk 2.0 a#0


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:03:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4j5ggk$[e-mail]>
References: <4islv1$asi$[e-mail]>

In article <4islv1$asi$[e-mail]>,
Peter Coffee AC6EN  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>With the majority of newly licensed hams receiving Technician Class
>tickets, I don't see how anyone can argue that non-hams as a class
>perceive hams as a class of key-tappers.

My experience is that people outside amateur radio are still generally
unaware of the dropping of the code requirement for the Technician
class license, even though it has been 5 years now.  Folks just don't
know.

>If people don't know that those
>volunteers are hams, whose fault is that?

Um, possibly the ARRL PR volunteer?  ;-) ;-) ;-)


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 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Ennes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 23 Mar 1996 00:49:11 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ivhq7$[e-mail]>
References: <4ip5ep$[e-mail]>

I think you will find that there a lot more hams licensed than 20 years
ago.
I understand that in the last couple of years there has been a few more
people getting licensed.  I love CW but if we have to drop it in order
to get more people interested in the greatest hobby in the world, so be
it.
Maybe we should limit CW to the advanced and extra licenses?
P.S. The last figures I heard was the average age for a ham is 58.  That
is sad.

N7DTD Age 61



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:19 1996
From: AA9IS <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 22 Mar 1996 07:27:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4itkpl$[e-mail]>
References: <4hnk22$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4i0tal$[e-mail]> <4i1ku0$[e-mail]> <4i9h1m$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4iqh3f$[e-mail]>

I don,t think the code requirement should be dropped.
I do think some changes should be made.

I think that there should be codeless privileges on H.F
Give codeless access to the General portion of the bands with the same
theory test a General class must pass now, or maybe a slightly more
demanding test of correct radio operation on the H.F bands.

Make it 13 wpm, or even 10 wpm for access to the advanced portion.
Keep 20 wpm for access to Extra portion. Along with the same level of
tests now used for Advanced and Extra.

There are many codeless Techs who do a very fine job operating a radio on
the bands above 50Mhz. What would be the difference if they opperated a
radio on a lower frequency?
I think it is very important to the survival of our hobby. There are many
people who a very technically competent, but for various reasons would
never bother to learn the  code.

There a many reasons why code is still important to our hobbby, and will
be for a long time to come, but I don't think we should deny access to
H.F. because of it.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:48:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4ismm9$[e-mail]>
References: <4imud8$[e-mail]> <4in2ij$[e-mail]> <4iokmc$[e-mail]> <4ipd84$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:
>WB3U <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Which is exactly why anyone who doesn't want to learn the code
>>should buy a cell phone instead of taking an Amateur Radio exam.  ;)

>I see the smiley, but this isn't funny.  The value of amateur radio
>VHF/UHF communications in an emergency is considerable

Given the choice, I'd trust my life to a well-equipped communications
center operating on non-Amateur frequencies long before I'd consider
placing it in the hands of operators who are poorly coordinated and
potentially untrained.  Emergency preparedness requires a constant
influx of money and coordination of resources, neither of which are
abundant in the Amateur service.

>and suggesting that anyone that doesn't want to learn code should
>bugger off makes no sense at all.  Even worse, it may be
>unintentional, but this suggestion seems to make an entire class of
>amateurs unwelcome.

The jury's still out regarding any benefits to be derived from the new
class of no-code licenses.  Will the majority upgrade or will they
drop out (or worse, spend the rest of their lives on 2M, wasting
spectrum and yammering about things like flea shampoo and fertilizer)?

In the thirty years I've been a ham. I've seen the entrance
requirements steadily weakened.  First it was theory, now it's code,
and soon the attack will revert again to theory.  We are slowly
deteriorating into a service that has no justification for the
frequencies it holds, and which will have no intellectual requirements
whatsoever.  Eventually, we will either lose the frequencies or
simply wake up one day to discover they are no more useful for our
purpose than the Citizens Band.

At any rate, my previous post should not be taken to demean anyone who
enters our ranks with a valid interest in the hobby.  What I was
referring to is the fact that no-code licensees are not unaware of the
need to eventually pass proficiency tests.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:22 1996
From: Peter Coffee AC6EN <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 21 Mar 1996 22:41:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4islv1$asi$[e-mail]>

With the majority of newly licensed hams receiving Technician Class
tickets, I don't see how anyone can argue that non-hams as a class
perceive hams as a class of key-tappers.

An earlier message said that we need a better stereotype of hams than
that of the asocial mike potato with the ugly tower in the back yard.
I agree, but I suggest that today that stereotype is already giving way
to that of the helpful volunteer with the HT or mobile rig coordinating
activities at a community event.  If people don't know that those
volunteers are hams, whose fault is that?


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea???
Date: 22 Mar 1996 00:02:34 -0500
Message-ID: <4itc9a$[e-mail]>
References: <4imud8$[e-mail]> <4in2ij$[e-mail]> <4iokmc$[e-mail]> <4ipd84$[e-mail]>

In article <4ipd84$[e-mail]>,
        Dana Myers <[e-mail]> wrote:

> The value of amateur radio
> VHF/UHF communications in an emergency is considerable, and suggesting
> that anyone that doesn't want to learn code should bugger off makes
> no sense at all.  Even worse, it may be unintentional, but this suggestion
> seems to make an entire class of amateurs unwelcome.

Unfortunately, a significant majority (or perhaps a very vocal minority)
of tech-lites in this region (RI) are scumbags and n'er-do-wells that
merely view amateur radio as "grown up CB". Its "cool" because when you
un-key you don't need a roger-beep, the repeater does it for you! (Although
recently some morons have taken to using roger-beep mics on local
repeaters that already have courtesy tones.)

Ten years ago you would never discuss what equipment you had, if you
were going on vacation, etc., because someone with a scanner might be
listening and they might try to break in to your house.

Today the same concern exists, except it isn't the "scanner" users
that might break in, its the scumbags we've let in to the hobby since
1991.

MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:24 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (James Aeschliman)
Subject: Re: FR-146 FM Receiver Kit
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (James Aeschliman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:25:52 GMT


In a previous article, [e-mail] (Dave Bremer) says:

>My partner and I are using the Ramsey FR-146 2-Meter FM receiver kit to
>receive data broadcast at a frequency of 155.445 MHz.  The data is sent
>with a 6 second delay between each new message.  We are having trouble
>squelching out the noise during the 6 second delay period.  The squelch
>seems to either cut out nothing or it cuts out everything including the
>data being broadcast.  If anyone has any information regarding this kit
>or where we could receive help, we would appreciate hearing about it.
>Please e-mail any comments or suggestions.
>
Try turning the volume all the way down and leaving the squelch wide open.

--
Jim Aeschliman                      [e-mail]
Black Diamond, Washington           KD7MK


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:25 1996
From: Geoff Brown <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: French VHF Convention
Date: 30 Mar 1996 17:41:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4jjrnt$[e-mail]>

Anybody going to the French VHF Convention on April 12/13?
de Geoff GJ4ICD (will be going with Alan GJ4ZUK)




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:26 1996
From: Marcus Kozica <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.forsale,rec.radio.swap,misc.industry.electronics.marketplace,uk.forsale,uk.radio.amateur,uk.adverts.other,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics.basic,sci.electronics.repair,austin.forsale,rec.audio.pro,swnet.pryltorg
Subject: FS: Tektronix Oscope 2246
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:40:13 +0100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Tektronix oscilloscope 2246, four chanels, with probes, hardly used
$1400


Marcus, Sweden


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jack Kovar  KE0AX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS:Motorola Voice recognition phone
Date: 29 Mar 1996 08:03:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4jg5fo$[e-mail]>

        I would like to sell my Voice recognition Motorola cellular
        phone system.
        It is a full three watt phone using voice recognition to dial
        phone numbers and responds with voice confirmation to each command.
        Includes transportable case or car kit.
        Also a VCR training tape from motorola.
        WILL TRADE for Ham equipment or best reasonable offer.
        This is a version 8922 for you who need a extension phone!
        Software included.
                                        Thanks,
                                                Jack Kovar
                                                [e-mail]







From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:28 1996
From: Dave Hand <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT 990 update???
Date: 26 Mar 1996 15:05:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4j914j$[e-mail]>

I thought I heard reference to a PIN diode update to the FT 990
As I recall it was suposed to improve adjacent channel rejection.

Anyone know about this or am I just dreaming???

Dave Hand WB4HYP
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:29 1996
From: "John P. Hollingshead" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT-530 Problem
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:19:19 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I have an FT-530.  A year or so ago I did the extended coverage mod.
Recently, the mod stopped working.  I now have normal coverage only.  I
would like two things.  First of all, if anyone has the jumper
configuration from the factory (I think that I may have touched one
together by accident and can't remember what the settings were to check
them)  and if possible, a solution to the problem.

I'd appreciate any help I could get.

Tnx

73's

--

John P. Hollingshead III (KB5SXH) [JH1180]
President Texas Data Systems
Pearland, Tx
[phone]
Fax:  [phone]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: GE Master II queries
Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:19:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4j98va$[e-mail]>

Hello all.

I got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, interface,
cable, external speaker, and mic...basically complete.

I am wanting to put it on 9600 baud packet, and am trying to gather any
and all information about it. IE; watts, amp draw, pin out of console and
mic, where to get crystals, value, and just ANY other info you may would
be appreciated. A schematic for this rig would probably bring tears to
my eyes.    :)

Thanks much, & take care.

--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: GE Master II queries
Date: 28 Mar 1996 16:50:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4jeg0a$[e-mail]>
References: <4j98va$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4j98va$[e-mail]> [e-mail].o
hio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes:
>>Hello all.
>>
>>I got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, interface,
>>cable, external speaker, and mic...basically complete.
>>
>>I am wanting to put it on 9600 baud packet, and am trying to gather any
>>and all information about it. IE; watts, amp draw, pin out of console and
>>mic, where to get crystals, value, and just ANY other info you may would
>>be appreciated. A schematic for this rig would probably bring tears to
>>my eyes.    :)


[...]

>The second problem is a little harder to fix right. The receiver IF
>filter is too narrow, and there will be considerable phase distortion
>of the eye. I don't know where to get wider drop-in filters. There is
>a kludge that works if you aren't in a high signal area, however. That's
>to just bypass the IF filter with a gimmick capacitor. Better is to
>fit a wider filter, though you are going to have to adapt it, use a
>bit of perf board. Murata makes suitable filters. (Note, if you're
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What IF does the Mastr II use?  The Mastr Exec/Custom MVPs I've
tinkered with use a single 11.2MHz IF - my Murata catalog doesn't
list anything quite like this ;-).

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mazal & Earl Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: GemQuad Antenna
Date: 27 Mar 96 16:04:21 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

A friend has aquired a used 5 band 2 element genuine Manitoba GemQuad in
good condition, but without the instruction book.

We want to re-string the elements and would be indepted if some helpful
GemQuad owner could e-mail me the loop dimensions, lengths, spacings etc.
needed to get this antenna back on the air.

Thanks in advance.

73
Earl, 4Z4TJ



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:33 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jens Goerke)
Subject: Re: German Hamfest
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jgo0n$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:44:29 GMT

William J. Graham ([e-mail]) wrote:


> Greetings from Camp Lisa, Bosnia

> Would someone tell me when the big German hamfest is this year?

> I'm due to leave here on 17 May and hope to get to it this year,

> I've  been trying  to make it for the last 3 y years and something has come
> up each time.

The Ham Radio is 28.-30. june in Friedrichshafen. That's friday to sunday.
If you want to camp on site you might want to arrive moday or tuesday.

See you there,
        Jens, DB9LL
--
Missing coffee error - operator halted.

This message may not be distributed via the Microsoft Network.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (William J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: German Hamfest
Date: 29 Mar 1996 13:19:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4jgo0n$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (William J. Graham)



Greetings from Camp Lisa, Bosnia

Would someone tell me when the big German hamfest is this year?

I'm due to leave here on 17 May and hope to get to it this year,

I've  been trying  to make it for the last 3 y years and something has come
up each time.

73

Bill
N5LMX/DA1WG
.
--
Never Thirst !
"My head hurts, my feet stink and I don't love Jesus!"- J. Buffett


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (mlmitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal
Date: 26 Mar 1996 10:52:01 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:

>
>The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest
>wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer
>to become a Volunteer Examiner, and give you your Amateur test.
>
>Does this bother anyone? Or am I simply getting too conservative in my
>old age?
>
>
>[e-mail]
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>|Internet: [e-mail]
>|
>| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
>
Clint,
It is illegal, per part 97, for a dealer who directly has an
involvement in the sale or distribution of ham radio equipment to
participate in the VE system. I will double check, but I am sure this
is what it reads.
73
Bill


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:46:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbh56$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (mlmitchell) wrote:


>>The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest
>>wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer
>>to become a Volunteer Examiner, and give you your Amateur test.
It is illegal, per part 97, for a dealer who directly has an
>involvement in the sale or distribution of ham radio equipment to
>participate in the VE system. I will double check, but I am sure this
>is what it reads.
>73
>Bill
Bill,

I think this has changed because of theTelecommunications Act of 1996.
I saw something posted to this effect on CompuServe's HamNet forum
lately.  Now those n the industry can also be a VE if they want.
Possiably the www.fcc.gov site might have something on just how this
affects amateur radio.

 Also another topic the FCC site also has a 50 page report on the
effects of electromatic radiation and the amateur station, it is
pretty interesting ad\s the FCC tested about every antenna.

Gary



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Kolb)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal
Date: 27 Mar 1996 16:23:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbq2m$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

mlmitchell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:

: >
: >The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest
: >wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer
: >
: >Does this bother anyone? Or am I simply getting too conservative in my
: >old age?

: Clint,
: It is illegal, per part 97, for a dealer who directly has an
: involvement in the sale or distribution of ham radio equipment to
: participate in the VE system. I will double check, but I am sure this
: is what it reads.

This was changed within the last month by the 1966 Telecom act.

John Kolb  SANDARC and W5YI VE   KK6IL




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Date: 25 Mar 96 00:25:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham radio at the Olym
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>





>>I get the impression that its more an issue of "We want to be in
>>control of everything."

You thought the Olympics were a democratic institution - abiding by the
United States' rules and regulations?

Nope. The whole world will be here and will be watching. All the power
to the organizers. And if that means leaving my HT and cellular
telephone in the hotel room, then that's just fine. We should support
all efforts to making this country shine in the eyes of the world.

If that infringes a little on your activities - fine. Stay home and
watch it on television.
---
 * wcECHO 4.1 ~ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details * Mira Loma, CA * 909-681-6221
--
|Fidonet:  Clint Bradford 1:2619/228
|Internet: [e-mail]
|
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas McLarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham radio at the Olympic Games
Date: 24 Mar 1996 18:09:47 -0800
Message-ID: <4j4v9b$[e-mail]>
References: <4im8hl$[e-mail]> <4in2uh$[e-mail]> <4io3le$[e-mail]> <4is1a9$[e-mail]>

Brian D. Suggs ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Even if you buy this argument, does that mean that only the two meter band
: is the problem?  If I try to bring in a 440 MHz radio are you still going to
: complain?  If your 150 MHz radio can't handle having a legally operating
: 148 MHz radio nearby, your solution is to ban the other radio?  Should a ham
: convention be able to ban public service 150-155 MHz radios from their event
?
: What's the point of having the FCC license other services to certain bands i
f
: you're just going to say, "Yeah, but that's still to close to our frequencie
s."?

I definitely agree with you on this, I'm just trying to make an excuse
for those losers at the Olympic planning committee. :)  However, I'm just
going to answer your quesitons for the fun of it...

A 440 MHz radio may possibly, even though it's probably unlikely,
interfere with a poorly maintained 450 MHz commercial-band radio. :)

If the 150 MHz radio is getting too much interference from a maintained
148 MHz radio, the person operating that 150 MHz radio is probably too
radio illiterate to understand that it's their radio's problem, and will
in turn say it's the ham operator's fault.

From most of the ones I've been to, ham events don't have many 150 MHz
radios there, but still...if it's interfering, hey...go for it. :)

Okay, hopefully I'm done making excuses for the Olympic committee.

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:41 1996
From: John Morris <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Ham radio in UK
Date: 22 Mar 1996 12:18:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4iu5pt$[e-mail]>
References: <4imdgl$[e-mail]> <4imhaa$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (A.R. Duell) wrote:

>A question for others : After the change in the exam, will class B
>licensees who then pass the morse test be granted a class A license, or
>will they have to take the new written exam as well ?

The exam format is changing, but the rules remain the same - an RAE
pass, no matter how old, gets you a B licence; added to the Morse test
gets you the A.

This applies to the old "essay" style RAE, the current two paper RAE,
and the impending single paper RAE.

73, John, GM4ANB




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 07:06:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING

G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur
 >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others,

Funny, when I entered the hobby, (I have been licensed since
1983) if you had an interest in RADIO per se, YOU found ham radio,
not the other way around.  My point is that there is no need for
marketing if the interest is there.  If it is not, there is no amount of
marketing you can do to win a person over.  In other words, the people
will come if they want to-ham radio is not a new "flavor" of ice
cream-it's a calling.
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:43 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 01:20:01 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

ROLAND STINER <[e-mail]> writes:

>G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur
> >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others,

No, in my opinion you still don't get an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE without a
code test. Anything else is a boxtop or crackerjack prize license.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:44 1996
From: [e-mail]    (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:59:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbaif$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (ROLAND STINE
R) writes:
>Funny, when I entered the hobby, (I have been licensed since
>1983) if you had an interest in RADIO per se, YOU found ham radio,
>not the other way around.  My point is that there is no need for
>marketing if the interest is there.  If it is not, there is no amount of
>marketing you can do to win a person over.

well...there's never been more choices for what to do with leisure time than
ever before. marketing makes sure that the potential amateur at least is
aware of amateur radio. i'd never heard of it before i'd read a friend's old
electronics illustrated (think that was the mag) that has a column in it by
w2nsd...in the late 60s'/early 70's that was about all the "marketing" that wa
s
done for amateur radio...

everyone else is out trying to call attention to themselves so to get more bus
iness
or more activities up and running. amateur radio should not stand idly by.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:45:47 -0500
Message-ID: <4jbrbr$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>ROLAND STINER <[e-mail]> writes:
>>G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur
>> >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others,
>No, in my opinion you still don't get an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE without a
>code test. Anything else is a boxtop or crackerjack prize license.

Your opinion doesn't count: you don't issue licenses.

Please respect the Followup-To: line.

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 28 Mar 1996 23:05:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf5ut$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jesli$[e-mail]>

In article <4jesli$[e-mail]>,
Cecil Moore  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>No, in my opinion you still don't get an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE without a
>>code test. Anything else is a boxtop or crackerjack prize license.
>
>Hi Armond, I'll second that and go a little further. Only hams using
>mechanical keys for Morse code deserve the license. Electronic keys
>and keyboards are for digital nerds.

Can you define "mechanical key"?  Both my straight key and my bi key
(two paddles, what did you think I meant?) have mechanical contacts.

Does this make me a real ham?

;-)
--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:47 1996
From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 28 Mar 1996 20:26:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jesli$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>No, in my opinion you still don't get an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE without a
>code test. Anything else is a boxtop or crackerjack prize license.

Hi Armond, I'll second that and go a little further. Only hams using
mechanical keys for Morse code deserve the license. Electronic keys
and keyboards are for digital nerds.

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:48 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joe Cira)
Subject: HAM-INFO-LINK-SOURCE-BBS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 03:18:17 GMT

        HELLO FELLOW HAMS:and FUTURE HAMS !!!!!!!

        HAM BBS dedicated to amateur radio !!!!

There is a DEVOTED AMATEUR RADIO BBS in town ,from your
ARRL/LAX  affiliated club coordinator , JOE CIRA , KB6AXK ...........
Everything and anything about AMATEUR RADIO will be found here,
IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!!


        HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS at 1-818-584-1952....
        24 hrs,8-n-1,anyspeed.......
        running 486/66 with 2.1 gig of space !!!
        TNC/PACKET DOOR IS UP & RUNNING !!!
        qsl route database,clubs,newsletters,bulletins,shareware,utility
        mods,programs,test ques,lists,software and much more....
        VEC/VE exam & class  list for all So.Cal.
        sample exam tests and answers for all class's..
        ARRL mirror of all there files !
        Using Wildcat v4.11 software..
        easy to log in and no FEE's it's FREE !
        5,800 FILES IN 117 FILE AREA'S..so far !
***GOOD NEWS THE LANDLINE TO HAM PACKET DOOR IS UP AND RUNNING**********
        ARE YOU ON THE HAM DOOR USERS LIST ???????

        latest list of AMATEUR RADIO WEB SITES,now 648 sites ?

73's & 88's de kb6axk,joe cira,ARRL/LAX/ACC.
INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:> [e-mail]
/EX
S




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ralph Zancha)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Hamfest  -  fest96.txt [1/1]
Date: 25 Mar 1996 01:42:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4j4tl9$[e-mail]>

M.A.R.K.

P.O. Box 91

Lovington, IL

61937


The Moultrie Amatuer radio Klub would like to announce our 34th annual Sulliva
n , IL Hamfest.

NOTICE: The hamfest has been moved to the Moultrie/Douglas county fair grounds
 in Arthur, IL

and will be held on April 21, 1996. The fair grounds is located just south of
Illinois Rt. #133 by

the Arthur High School. Also Rockome Gardens opens this same day so bring the
whole family.


The hamfest will be an all weather facility this year. The indoor spaces are a
vailable on a first

come first serve basis. Tables will be $8.00 per 8 foot table. Tables will onl
y be reserved if

payment is recieved in advance. Send reservations to M.A.R.K., P.O. Box 91, Lo
vington, IL,

61937. Or call evenings at 217-873-5287 ask for Ralph Zancha WC9V. There will
also be room

for outdoor flea market setup if weather permits free. Setup in the indoor are
a's Will be on

Saturday from Noon untill 4:00 P.M. and on Sunday morning from 6:00 A.M. until
l 8:00 A.M.


Admission is $4.00 per person over the age of 14 years old. Talkin will be on
146.055/146.655

and 449.275/444.275. For more information call the above phone number evenings
 and

weekends.

NOTICE: THERE WILLL BE NO EXAMS THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks

Ralph Zancha
Hamfest Chairman


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:51 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Pete Soper)
Subject: Re: Help! Where should I send checklog for French contest '96?
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:03:56 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

"[e-mail]" <[e-mail]> writes:
(msg conveyed by subject line)

Direct email to you failed, so here's part of the REF contest
data  for all the hoards to have to skip over:

>LOGS:         Logs must be submitted within
>                  March 15th  for CW
>                  April 15th  for SSB
>
>              to:
>
>                   Reseau des Emetteurs Francais
>                   REF Contest
>                   BP 2129
>                   37021 TOURS cedex
>                   FRANCE

Regards,
Pete Soper
KS4XG



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: 28 Mar 1996 04:37:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4jd51d$[e-mail]>

I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack.  What is the
recommended way to run coax thru the wall?  I would like to know what I am
doing before I get to the sheetrock stage.
Post answers here or email me at [e-mail]
Thank You



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bill Soon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:32:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4jfi32$[e-mail]>
References: <4jd51d$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Be sure to put a 90 degree elbow pointing down on the outside
wall -- this will keep the water out when it rains !
-- Bill, KF6ZO

Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]> wrote:

>In article <4jd51d$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Joe Sullivan" writ
es:

>> I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack.  What is the
>> recommended way to run coax thru the wall?  I would like to know what I am
>> doing before I get to the sheetrock stage.
>> Post answers here or email me at [e-mail]
>> Thank You

>There's an article on this in March's QST.

>73
>Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
>G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *

[e-mail]     http://www.primenet.com/~wsoon/



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Seth Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall?
Date: 29 Mar 96 17:08:30 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In addition to Gary's comment, seal the pipe at the entrance on
the outside to keep out crawling and flying things with a
product sometimes called "DUX" or "Duct Seal". It an all temperature
electrical filling putty (something like play dough) sold at electrical
supply houses and also at The Home Depot. It's sold in 1 lb. bricks
for a couple of dollars.


Seth KC2WE


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:54 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jack M Twilley)
Subject: How to find list of clubs in Boston?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:45:31 GMT

I'm interested in finding a list of clubs in the Boston area.

I'm interested in packet and talking as well as other parts of being a
licensed amateur.  Building gizmos is another big interest. :-)

Jack.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Cook - AF9Y)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results
Date: 24 Mar 1996 19:36:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4j487a$[e-mail]>

    Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results

Based on poor ionization at VHF, it appears that
Hyakutake Comet bounce is doubtful.  Never the
less, last night I made a concerted effort.  Here
are the results:

  - System used was my 2mtr EME station and the FFTDSP42
    program.  EME Signal echo detection S/N margin is
    20+ dB with FFTDSP42 integration set to 1.

  - For the comet bounce test, integration was set to
    8 for a detection increase of 4.5 dB.  Total
    system S/N EME echo margin was aprox 25 dB.

  - A continuous 1500 watt, 144 Mhz carrier was
    transmitted for 45 Seconds. The receive period was
    75 Seconds.  Any reflection from the comet should
    have been visible as a line trace during a portion
    of the display receive window.

  - Transmit offsets of 0, +1, +2, -1, -2 Khz were tried
    during the test period to allow for various doppler
    effects.

  - After an hour of testing, no traces were seen.  It
    is possible that some pointing error existed during
    the test since we had cloud cover and I could not
    do a visual validation.

  - I used the "Home Planet" program and the latest
    comet position within the Arcturus star group.
    It would be nice if one of the astronomy programs
    would provide AZ EL pointing information
    for celestial objects. During the test period,
    the EME array was moved over a +/- 10 degree range
    in AZ and EL.

It looks like thunderstorms for tonight so it is doubtful
that I'll be able to make additonal tests for the perigee
night.

Details on the EME station and FFTDSP program used for the
test is available on my web page.


de Mike, AF9Y
http://www.webcom.com/af9y
Work: [e-mail]
Home: [e-mail]









From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:57 1996
From: Michael J Wooding <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:16:55 +0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j487a$[e-mail]>

In article <4j487a$[e-mail]>, Mike Cook - AF9Y
<[e-mail]> writes
>Based on poor ionization at VHF, it appears that
>Hyakutake Comet bounce is doubtful.  Never the
>less, last night I made a concerted effort.  Here
>are the results:

Very interesting Mike and I applaud your efforts.

All I want to do however is see the darn thing!

Mike

Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe: 100441,377
WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:58 1996
From: [e-mail](Ted Viens )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results
Date: 27 Mar 1996 05:14:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4jaiqo$[e-mail]>
References: <4j487a$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

All it should take to see the comet is a clear night and knowing where
to look.  I live within 10 km of downtown Houston.  This is one of the
worst light polution areas on the earth.  After failing to find the
comet on Wed. night for not knowing where to look, I found it on Thurs.
night directly between arturus and the horizon.  About half way around
11 pm local time.  Once I knew where to look, I was able to see it even
without my glasses (and my vision runs near 20/200.)  The disconcerting
thing about comets is that they appear to be smudges on the celestial
sphere.  You develope an uncontrolled urge to try and reach up and
polish the skies.  This must be why the ancients ascribed malevolence
to them...  Since Friday, it has been cloudy and the comet viewing bad.

In <[e-mail]> Michael J Wooding
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>In article <4j487a$[e-mail]>, Mike Cook - AF9Y
><[e-mail]> writes
>>Based on poor ionization at VHF, it appears that
>>Hyakutake Comet bounce is doubtful.  Never the
>>less, last night I made a concerted effort.  Here
>>are the results:
>
>Very interesting Mike and I applaud your efforts.
>
>All I want to do however is see the darn thing!
>
>Mike
>
>Michael J Wooding   [e-mail] - CompuServe:
100441,377
>WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm)
>WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm
>Tel: [phone]   Fax: [phone]
>KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK
>VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and
Microwaves

--
Bye...  Ted..
Deep in the Heart of the Armpits of Houston, Texas...


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:37:59 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 19:27:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jc4n7$[e-mail]>
References: <4j487a$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Michael J Wooding <vhf-comm@g
6iqm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <4j487a$[e-mail]>, Mike Cook - AF9Y
><[e-mail]> writes
>>Based on poor ionization at VHF, it appears that
>>Hyakutake Comet bounce is doubtful.  Never the
>>less, last night I made a concerted effort.  Here
>>are the results:
>
>Very interesting Mike and I applaud your efforts.
>
>All I want to do however is see the darn thing!
>
>Mike
>

   Look to the north - North-west after sundown. It's a bright fuzzy glow. You

really can't miss it! Use binoculars once you find it.  It's quite a sight!!!!

Tom


   Tom Randall            Amateur Radio - KB2SMS
   [e-mail]       Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL
                          Member: AAVSO Solar Division

   Opinions herein are mine and they are not that of MHV.NET!


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:00 1996
From: Wayne Jones <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I moved...HELP!
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:01:21 -1000
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Nat Hooper wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new
> callsign.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to go about it? I 've had an 'advanced' ticket
> since 1988.
>If you like your call, keep it.  All you have to do is send an FCC Form
610 changing your address.  They will not change your call sign unless
you want to get a new one for the area you moved to.  I understand the
form 610 is on the FCC web site, but haven't checked for myself.  You
can also get one from the ARRL -- just send them a SASE and they will
get one right out to you.

Aloha
Wayne, NH6GJ


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: I moved...HELP!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:17:12 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
 (Nat Hooper) writes:
-Hello,
-
-I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new
-callsign.

Nope, not anymore.  Just get a form 610 (contact the ARRL or the FCC, or
check on ftp://ftp.fcc.gov and send it in as a change of address.
/mike
--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai        N1IST       [e-mail]     \|/
-*- --- Boston Amateur Radio Club:  http://www.barc.org/barc --- -*-
/|\        or send "info barc-list to [e-mail]        /|\


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:02 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Icom 735 query
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:52:33 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Thomas
 Smith) writes:
>
>Need a touch of help on this one, as I have a chance to buy this unit...
>
>A bit of research shows me the Icom 735 is NOT able to do any satellite
>work...i.e., it cannot use the CT-16 satellite converter supplied by
>Icom...
>
>As I am interested in working ALL ham modes, can anyone tell me if the
>735 can do ANY satellite work of any kind...appreciate this info!

Well sure the IC-735 can be used for satellite work. It works fine
for mode A and for mode K. With a converter or transverter (it has
transverter jacks, unlike many modern rigs) it works fine for mode
B. You'd have to stack transverters for modes L and S, so that's
probably not too realistic. The tuning steps are a bit coarse for
the PSK LEO birds, but it'll do for that too.

A FT-736R is a better rig for most satellite work, except mode K,
but the IC-735, with appropriate transverters, can serve well as
half of a satellite station for most modes. Oh, and it's still
a darn fine HF rig too.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Frank Ellesmere)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ICOM 765 MODS
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:48:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4jhlvl$[e-mail]>

Anyone got any ICOM 765 mods?

Frank KG0FC/G8CJ
Mankato, MN



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary McDuffie Sr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Info needed Kenwood RM-76 (for 7625)
Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:52:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jeqlc$[e-mail]>
Keywords: remote control, processor

I have a pair of 7625 radios that I am trying to use in a remote base
situation.  Two of the digits of the frequency are controlled by bcd.
However, the Mhz portion is not.  I'm needing any information I can
get to allow me to control the Mhz and +5 postions.  The manuals, both
owner's and service, are of no help.  They don't contain info on the
RM-76.

Any information I can get on this subject would be of help.  My
controller is bcd for all four digits, and I would like to get it
interfaced.

Thanks in advance.

Please notice that my email address is NOT that from which this
article is posted.  Please use the address below if you send private
email.  I do read this group daily, so feel free to post to the group
if you think others might be interested.

Gary McDuffie
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (John L. Gianotti)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V96 #283
Date: 26 Mar 96 22:12:40 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

The Standard is great for the following:
1)  Makes a great wireless mike for a dual-band mobile in cross band
repeat.
2)  Makes a great little scanner - small and light and nearly invisible
with an earplug.
3)  Makes a great dual band HT for use at hamfests for local
communications
4)  Makes a great radio for use if you live within site of a repeater
site.

It probably should not be your primary HT.  The range IS limited by the
power out and the antenna.  Other than that it is a rugged rig that if
used within the above constraints performs very well.
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:06 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V96 #283
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:53:06 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail].
IN.US (John L. Gianotti) writes:
>The Standard is great for the following:
>1)  Makes a great wireless mike for a dual-band mobile in cross band
>repeat.
>2)  Makes a great little scanner - small and light and nearly invisible
>with an earplug.
>3)  Makes a great dual band HT for use at hamfests for local
>communications
>4)  Makes a great radio for use if you live within site of a repeater
>site.
>
>It probably should not be your primary HT.  The range IS limited by the
>power out and the antenna.  Other than that it is a rugged rig that if
>used within the above constraints performs very well.

John sums up my feelings toward my C508A pretty well, except for
one point. I think it is fine as your primary HT, since it does
all the things you can expect a HT to do. For your primary *radio*,
however, I'd recomend not another HT, but something other than a HT,
like a nice 50 watt mobile rig.

I find that the C508A would work anywhere my FT-470 would work, and
places where the C508A fails, so did the FT-470. So I sold my FT-470
and kept the C508A. The difference in power just isn't significant,
but a better antenna can be, and Comet makes a nice one for the
C508A. As far as I'm concerned, the only failing of this radio is
the lack of a TT pad. Considering its size, however, that lack is
understandable.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Regional Warning Centre)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 23 March 96
Date: 23 Mar 1996 23:01:18 -0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j1vru$[e-mail]>


SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 23/2330Z MARCH 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 23 MARCH AND FORECAST FOR 24 MARCH - 26 MARCH
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: Low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number :  72/8

GOES satellite data for 22 Mar
       Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV:   3.3E+05
       Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV:  1.7E+04
       Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 3.8E+08 (moderate)
       X-ray background: A1.0
Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             24 Mar             25 Mar             26 Mar
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 24 Mar:  71/6

-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Quiet to unsettled

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 22 Mar
    Learmonth        8  3221 1232
    Fredericksburg   8                          15
    Planetary       10                          14

Observed Kp for 22 Mar: 2334 3333

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Date      Ap    Conditions
24 Mar    10    Quiet to unsettled
25 Mar     8    Quiet to unsettled
26 Mar     8    Quiet to unsettled

-----------------------------------------------------------
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
23 Mar      Normal-fair    Normal-fair    Fair
PCA Event : None

3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
24 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal
25 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal
26 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal

-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
Date   T index
23 Mar    -3

Observed Australian Regional MUFs:
Darwin: 15-30% depressed.
Townsville: 15-30% depressed until 12UT, then near predicted
monthly values.
Sydney: near predicted monthly values.
Hobart: near predicted monthly values.

Predicted Monthly T index for March: 10

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
Date   T index  MUFs
24 Mar     0    near predicted monthly values
25 Mar     0    near predicted monthly values
26 Mar     0    near predicted monthly values

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Regional Warning Centre)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 27 March 96
Date: 27 Mar 1996 23:18:41 -0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jcich$[e-mail]>


SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 27/2330Z MARCH 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 27 MARCH AND FORECAST FOR 28 MARCH - 30 MARCH
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: Very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number :  72/8

GOES satellite data for 26 Mar
       Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV:   3.5E+05
       Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV:  1.7E+04
       Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 3.1E+08 (moderate)
       X-ray background: A1.0
Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             28 Mar             29 Mar             30 Mar
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 28 Mar:  72/8

-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Unsettled to quiet, with one
active period between 0600-0900UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 26 Mar
    Learmonth       12  3433 3211
    Fredericksburg   8                           8
    Planetary        8                           9

Observed Kp for 26 Mar: 3431 2222

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Date      Ap    Conditions
28 Mar     5    Quiet
29 Mar     5    Quiet
30 Mar     5    Quiet
COMMENT:
-----------------------------------------------------------
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
27 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal
PCA Event : None

3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
28 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal
29 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal
30 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal

-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
Date   T index
27 Mar    -5

Observed Australian Regional MUFs:
Darwin: 10 to 30% depressed between 0300 and 1700 UT.
Townsville: 10 to 30% depressed between 0300 and 01700 UT.
Sydney: Near predicted monthly values for UT day.
Hobart: 10 to 30% depressed between 0600 and 1600 UT. Spread
-F has been observed between 1000 and 2000 UT.

Predicted Monthly T index for March: 10

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
Date   T index  MUFs
28 Mar     2    near predicted monthly values
29 Mar     5    near predicted monthly values
30 Mar     5    near predicted monthly values
COMMENT:
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Regional Warning Centre)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info
Subject: IPS Daily Report - 28 March 96
Date: 28 Mar 1996 23:16:55 -0000
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jf6l7$[e-mail]>


SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 28/2330Z MARCH 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 28 MARCH AND FORECAST FOR 29 MARCH - 31 MARCH
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: Very low

Flares: none.

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number :  72/8

GOES satellite data for 27 Mar
       Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV:   4.2E+05
       Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV:  1.8E+04
       Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 4.5E+08 (moderate)
       X-ray background: A1.0
Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             29 Mar             30 Mar             31 Mar
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 29 Mar:  71/6

-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Quiet to unsettled

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 27 Mar
    Learmonth       10  3322 3222
    Fredericksburg   9                           9
    Planetary        5                           9

Observed Kp for 27 Mar: 3323 2222

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Date      Ap    Conditions
29 Mar     5    Quiet to unsettled
30 Mar     5    Quiet to unsettled
31 Mar     5    Quiet to unsettled

-----------------------------------------------------------
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
28 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal
PCA Event : None

3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
29 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal
30 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal
31 Mar      Normal         Normal         Normal

-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
Date   T index
28 Mar     1

Observed Australian Regional MUFs:
Darwin: 10 to 30% depressed between 0300 and 1900 UT.
Townsville: 15% depressed between 0100 and 1800 UT.
Sydney: 10 to 30% enhanced between 1700 and 1900 UT and upto
15% depressed between 0800 and 1100 UT.
Hobart: 10 to 30% depressed between 0300 and 1600 UT. Spread
-F has been observed between 1100 and 2000 UT.

Predicted Monthly T index for March: 10

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
Date   T index  MUFs
29 Mar     5    near predicted monthly values
30 Mar     5    near predicted monthly values
31 Mar    10    near predicted monthly values

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:13 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Is my tech plus study guide still effective?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:30:44 GMT
References: <4jfkc5$[e-mail]>

CrACKeD <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I have a study guide from Radio Shack for the Technician Plus License
>which is dated effective July 1, 1990.  Can I still use this book to
>study for the current Technicain Plus exam?  I don't know if the question
>pools have been changed, so I'd like to avoid buying a new book if I
>can.  Thanks.

In another thread you said that you already have your Technician license
(no code) and you are upgrading to Tech-plus.  It is my understanding that
all you have to do is go in and take the 5 WPM code test; you shouldn't
have to study any books for a written exam.

Clarifications or corrections, anyone?

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:14 1996
From: Eric <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: KENWOOD TH415E
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:57:43 -0100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4ijvsq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4iu54f$[e-mail]> <4j2rrd$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

I'm looking for the instructions manual of the KENWOOD TH415E UHF FM
Transceiver.

Could anyone help me ?

Thanks,

Eric.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:14 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TS 830 S
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:14:35 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Looking for info on converting TS 830 S to 11 meter operation.
Any info appreciated.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:16 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Kenwood TS 830 S
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:14:22 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

You want to put an '830S on CB channels?  You may have picked a
difficult rig for that.  First of all, you have a tube driver
and finals, so you'll have to convert your 12m tank circuits,
or one set of your 10m tank circuits, to 11m.  Now although you
may want to operate mostly SSB, you still want to be able to
get on AM sometimes, right?  Well your '830S doesn't do AM with-
out some serious modifications.  If you're fortunate enough to
get an "export" model TS-830M, then you have AM so that's not a
problem.

Starting with a Yaesu FT-747 is much easier.  Channels already
in place, all-mode operation, no tuned tank circuits, and a simple
mod for general coverage transmit.  Of course here in the US you
can only listen, which requires no mods.

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood TS 830 S
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 23:09:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4jci73$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

   Monty Wilson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>You want to put an '830S on CB channels?  You may have picked a
>difficult rig for that.

There's one resistor you can cut to make the 830S work perfectly on
11M.  I don't remember which one though, so he should probably cut
them all and see which one works.  ;)

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Carvalho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TS-50 .vs. Icom-706
Date: 25 Mar 1996 18:14:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6nqp$[e-mail]>

I am looking for a portable HF radio. I've got a chance to
purchase a used Kenwood TS-50(HF) with the optional CW filter.

I have also been looking at the Icom-706. I am new to amateur
radio and would like your opinion with regard to portable HF
transceivers.

Kenwood TS-750 (used) $700.US
Icom IC-706 (new)   ~$1200.US

Comments Pros/Cons are welcome.
--
--joe
My opinions are mine...All mine.
Tasteless Quote of the Century:
"I need this parade like I need a hole in my head" JFK
[e-mail]
Inter-National Research Institute
10101 Old Grove Rd. Sandy Ehgo, CA. 92131
For long you live
and high you fly
and smiles you give
and tears you cry
And all you touch
and all you see
is all your life
will ever be...PF.DSotM




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (James D. Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kid's Summer Camp & Ham Radio
Date: 28 Mar 1996 11:40:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4jdtr5$[e-mail]>
Summary: Ham radio summer camp for kids?
Keywords: kid's summer camp

I'm looking for a Summer Camp in the USA for a 12 year old girl.
She wants the camp to have the usual camp activities and ham radio.
Included should be a license preparation class.  At the end of camp
she wants to have passed the Tech-Plus tests.

Do you know of a summer camp with ham radio activities?

---
James Howard     Austin, TX USA     [e-mail]

--

---
James Howard     Austin, TX USA     [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hal Rosser)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Learning Morse Code
Date: 24 Mar 1996 17:41:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4j41h6$[e-mail]>
References: <4iu8p3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Steve Lewis <[e-mail]> says:
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> I am thinking about getting  a Ham Liciense. I already have a receiver
>> and DX all the time. Can anyone reccommend a good program for teaching
>> Morse Code? Is there a FAQ list for getting a liciense? If so can
>> someone send me a copy?
>>
>> Thanks! I enjoy this group very much.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Lloyd
>
>I used Super Morse, it is a shareware program and you can get it at
>  http://www.shareware.com/ just search for Super Morse.
>Hope this helps.
>
>--
>Steve Lewis ([e-mail])
>
>Just my opinion!  :-)  73 cul

..N9jhg has a good point. But I suggest searching the dos AND windows
directories...use "morse" as the search name. And use more than just one progr
am.
Also, some of the programs you find will have sample QSO's that
the morse programs can send. Tape them by putting your recorder
mike up to the computer speaker (or being a ham) electronically
couple the audio signal into the aux input of your recorder)
..Tapes help a lot, I'm up to 10 wpm..going for 20. And that
nonsense about only 30 minutes a days...nah. The more the better,
just take breeaks when you need it.
hope this helps.
Hal rosser   (formerly WB4OSP..expired..working my way back in)


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Meinken)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Learning Morse Code
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:35:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

L >From: [e-mail] ()
L >Subject: Learning Morse Code
L >
L >I am thinking about getting  a Ham Liciense. I already have a receiver
L >and DX all the time. Can anyone reccommend a good program for teaching
L >Morse Code? Is there a FAQ list for getting a liciense? If so can
L >someone send me a copy?
L >
L >Thanks! I enjoy this group very much.
L >
L >Regards
L >
L >Lloyd
L >
L >
Lloyd,

I think different approaches work well with different people.  What I
found worked for me was to use a code practice oscillator and send a
character and then say the letter in my mind.  Keep up with the same
letter 50 or 100 times, then move on to another letter. Later come back
and do the first letter again.

IMO, you want to develop a Pavlovian response so that when you hear "dit
da da" you think and write "W".  When you hear "dah dit dit dit" you write
"B", etc.

Once you develop that and know the alphabet and numbers well, then you
might start listening to some code tapes or listen to on the air code
practice.

73, Ken WA8JXM

--- WinQwk 2.0 a#0


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Shel Darack)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Low output with PK-232 and TS-440
Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:23:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6kql$[e-mail]>
References: <4ivov6$[e-mail]>


There are two things going on here.
1.  Low output power when driving acc 2 (13 pin connector)
2.  Using a mic while connected to acc 2 wilth a data line

The reason for low output power is the acc 2 jack connects after
the mic preamp.  The solution is usually to advance the mic
gain control from its normal 9pm position until you get full output.
Turn it pack down for mic operation.

You also should wire the 13 pin connector the way KAM recomends.
I would have to look in my manuals at home, but it has been written
up in QST. Essentially, you connect the data audio to a diffent
pin and connect to the normal pin through a diode.  If you need
the  pin info, send me mail at;
        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:22 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Robert Donnell - KD7NM)
Subject: Re: Low output with PK-232 and TS-440
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ivov6$[e-mail]> <4j6kql$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:19:55 GMT

[e-mail] (Shel Darack) wrote:


>There are two things going on here.
>1.  Low output power when driving acc 2 (13 pin connector)
>2.  Using a mic while connected to acc 2 wilth a data line

>The reason for low output power is the acc 2 jack connects after
>the mic preamp.  The solution is usually to advance the mic
>gain control from its normal 9pm position until you get full output.
>Turn it pack down for mic operation.

>You also should wire the 13 pin connector the way KAM recomends.
>I would have to look in my manuals at home, but it has been written
>up in QST. Essentially, you connect the data audio to a diffent
>pin and connect to the normal pin through a diode.  If you need
>the  pin info, send me mail at;
>       [e-mail]


Actually, you leave the audio wire connected to the same spot.  What
you want to move is the PTT wire.  When it's connected directly to the
'mute' pin on ACC2, then the mute pin is connected to the PTT pin via
a diode, normal operation of the PTT (via the microphone) does not
mute the microphone, but PTT asserted by the PK-232 does mute the
microphone.  If my thinking is right (at 6:30 AM) you want the cathode
going to the mute pin and the anode going to the PTT pin.

73, Bob




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:24 1996
From: "Roy D." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mixer?
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 00:08:28 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jcibk$9o3$[e-mail]>

Dan Jerome wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever seen a small mixer to send the audio signals from
> several different radios to one speaker.  I have a 2 meter, a CB,
> a scanner, and a hands free cell phone in my vehicle, and I only
> want one external speaker.
> There's a nice three input mixer shown in the ARRL handbook.  It's
designed around a LM386 op-amp.  The circuit is basically a summing
amplifier.  I built one and it works quite well.  The output level won't
knock your socks off as is, but by adding another op-amp as an audio
amplifier will give you plenty of volume.  The whole thing takes only a
few hours to build and all the parts are avail. at Rat Shack.

        73....................Roy
--


Roy Derryberry, KD3LZ    Member: Aircraft Owners and Pilots' Association
([e-mail])                             American Radio Relay League
                                        Utility Workers Union of America

If I'd known I was gonna live this long, I'd taken better care of myself.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:24 1996
From: Ron Wilson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mods needed for Ranger 8000i
Date: 24 Mar 1996 19:10:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4j46n3$[e-mail]>

Looking for out of band mods for Ranger 8000i marine handheld.



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:25 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:27:56 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Frank C. Morr
is, N5YZM) writes:
>We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade.  We have already
>lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs.

Lost a club? Maybe you need to do some DFing so you can find it again.
I'm sure a Tech will be happy to teach you how to do it.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:26 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4iqhdf$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:42:02 GMT

Bill Newkirk ([e-mail]) wrote:

: that's code free technicians, 'dere, frank. there's a lot of no-tech extras
too.
: and what do you think about waivers?

It is irrelevant what any of us "think" about waivers.  The VE has no choice
or latitude in this area; he must accept the waiver.

We had a gentleman come in at our last VE session with a waiver for the
20-wpm code test.  He had already passed all written and code requirements,
but could not get beyond 17 wpm.  He saw an audiologist, who determined that
his hearing loss was such that he would need a hearing aid in about two
years.

I could tell that this gentleman was not trying to pull anything.  Sure, the
problem with the waivers is that, like everything else, there will always be
those who try to abuse the system.

BTW, be sure to charge the appropriate testing fee to such an applicant,
even if he takes no tests - it is an administrative fee.  Not knowing this
cost me $6.05, since I did not collect before he left.


: >Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade?

: 1) offer a regular testing session.
: 2) hold some events that would encourage operation of the needed skills
:    and technical knowledge.

We are fortunate enough to have a permanent location for our club.  Every
Wednesday evening we have classes in code and theory, up to 13 wpm and
Advanced Class, as necessary.  Our largest product, not surprisingly, is the
no-code Tech, but we have also had one 15-year-old high school student make
the trip all the way to Extra in less than a year.  Yes, some folks do
upgrade.

We also have two operating HF positions at the clubhouse, and a group of
enthusiastic OTs to encourage the newcomers, and to answer their questions.

Finally, we have VE testing at the clubhouse, once a month.  Everything at
one convenient location so that folks are comfortable.

If you consider only the licensed hams who are members of our local club,
about 56 percent are Techs, and 44 percent are holders of General Class or hig
her licenses.
Yet all some members seem to be fixated on is packet.46

73 de Jim - KF6CR


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (William J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need email add for Rev George at GQRP
Date: 29 Mar 1996 13:28:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4jgoht$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (William J. Graham)


can someone provide the email add fro Rev George Dobbs
of GQRP?

Thanks

Bill

N5LMX/DA1WG
--
Never Thirst !
"My head hurts, my feet stink and I don't love Jesus!"- J. Buffett


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ron Woodall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need help with 8 inch floppys
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 12:40:16 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j0r9s$[e-mail]>
References: <4ip10p$[e-mail]> <4iuhdp$[e-mail]>

Gary:

[e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) wrote:

>[e-mail] (tom borthwick) wrote:

>>I was told that ham radio people might be familiar with 8 inch floppys.
>>I need to know if anyone can convert 8 inch to 3.5 or 5.5. I'm an idiot
>>with that stuff and I'm trying to update an old peice of automation
>>equipment. Any help would be apreciated.
>>Please email your thoughts,
>>Tom Borthwick

        I'm new to the HAM world but certainly in the "old" computer world
there used to be equipment by a firm called "Schafstall" (sp?). This
was typically owned by a service provider (and many should still have
them (especially in the back room) that would take the hard sectored
8" and transfer the data (transparently) to a smaller format.

        Your problem does not come with the diskettes, it comes with the
programs that wrote the diskettes in the first place. Typically they
were pretty simple machines and the programs, in turn were pretty
simple. The code would be meaningless in the newer systems. I've never
known a PC to use 8" hard sectored diskettes so backward compatibility
is out. Many old minis had such a provision. There were few soft
sectored 8" simply because they didn't store as much as a hard
sectored diskette. IBM used them from time to time.

        There were other diskette "convertors" available on the market in the
same time period. Check around in old yellow pages (1977-84?) for
organizations that advertised "media conversion". They will have the
equipment. Warning, it will be old and dirty and may require a major
clean-up before use. You may also be given the equipment since there
is no longer a market for it. Most companies should still have it. It
cost $29,000+ when new with minimal capability and were primarly used
to convert word processor diskettes from one format to another.

Hope this helps

Ron

>Hi Tom
>Your question is not real clear!
>If your question is, can I replace the 8" drive on my, eg. posting
>machine, with a 3.5 for 5.25 the answer is no, not without changing
>the floppy drive controlling programs.

>If you are asking, can the information from the 8" drive be saved on a
>3.5 or 5.25 disk, the answer would more than likely be yes, if you
>have access to a computer that is both old enough to allow the 8"
>driver program and new enough to allow 5.25 driver programs to be run.

>I was in a similar situation, fortunately, I could load all the data
>from the old 8" disks onto the new large harddrive and then switch out
>the 8" drive for a more modern one.

>TTUL
>Gary






From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:33 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Need help with 8 inch floppys
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4ip10p$[e-mail]> <4iuhdp$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:33:19 GMT

In article <4iuhdp$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann
, Sr.) writes:
>[e-mail] (tom borthwick) wrote:
>
>>I was told that ham radio people might be familiar with 8 inch floppys.
>>I need to know if anyone can convert 8 inch to 3.5 or 5.5. I'm an idiot
>>with that stuff and I'm trying to update an old peice of automation
>>equipment. Any help would be apreciated.
>>Please email your thoughts,
>>Tom Borthwick
>
>Hi Tom
>Your question is not real clear!
>If your question is, can I replace the 8" drive on my, eg. posting
>machine, with a 3.5 for 5.25 the answer is no, not without changing
>the floppy drive controlling programs.

Actually, you can. When the then new 3.5 inch drives first came out,
I wired up a cable for one to an 8 inch controller. It worked fine.
The reason it worked fine is that both drives use the same sort of
signals, just on different pins, and because the newer drives have
80 tracks while the older drives only had 77. So the old controller
only uses the first 77 tracks on the new drive. Not a problem. It
views the little drive as just another 8 inch floppy. Of course
the format and data written on the disks is in a format incompatible
with other newer computers using 3.5 inch drives, but that isn't
often important for this type of upgrade.

>If you are asking, can the information from the 8" drive be saved on a
>3.5 or 5.25 disk, the answer would more than likely be yes, if you
>have access to a computer that is both old enough to allow the 8"
>driver program and new enough to allow 5.25 driver programs to be run.
>
>I was in a similar situation, fortunately, I could load all the data
>from the old 8" disks onto the new large harddrive and then switch out
>the 8" drive for a more modern one.

Yeah, now moving data to a different format is a separate issue, and
does require a controller that recognizes the difference in 3.5 inch
and 8 inch formats. But you can copy files to a 3.5 inch drive from
a 8 inch drive if the controller thinks the 3.5 inch drive is just
another 8 inch drive. That keeps everything in the same format, and
works just ducky.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Fiber)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need Spectrum Chart!
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:39:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6812$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Michael) wrote:

>I'm looking for a chart or a list of the HF through UHF spectrum, showing
>band plans and allocations. Anybody got one? Anybody know if there's an
>FCC site on the net that might have something like that? Please reply via
>email. Thank!

>de Michael, KB1UM
The U.S. government used to offer such a chart and it was available
from the Government Printing Office.

Gary



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:35 1996
From: Mike Mayer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need Spectrum Chart!
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:43:57 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4j6812$[e-mail]>

Gary Fiber wrote:
>
> [e-mail] (Michael) wrote:
>
> >I'm looking for a chart or a list of the HF through UHF spectrum, showing
> >band plans and allocations. Anybody got one? Anybody know if there's an
> >FCC site on the net that might have something like that? Please reply via
> >email. Thank!
>
> >de Michael, KB1UM
> The U.S. government used to offer such a chart and it was available
> from the Government Printing Office.
>
> Gary

Yes, as Gary says there is such a beast.  They are large (3' x 4') and
can be had for $3.50 apiece from the US Govt. Printing office.  You
might check locally.  I am in Cleveland and the USGPO has a bookstore
right here that usually stocks the posters (although they have some on
order right now).

I might also mention that Motorola has a similar poster, it's about 4'
by 2', also quite detailed.  I have one, but not near me right now or
I'd pull the 1-800 number from it.  They sent it to me free.  You might
have to do some legwork to find the number, but you might start with
Motorola in Schaumberg, IL, just outside of Chicago.  I'm sure directory
assistance (708-555-1212) can give you a main number for the company,
which in turn should be able to help you find the actual department (you
might try asking for customer relations, or their PR/Marketing
department).

Mike
Mike
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Visual Numerics, Inc.  32915 Aurora Rd. Suite 160, Solon OH  44139  USA
Email: [e-mail]    Human: 216-248-4900   Fax: [phone]
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:36 1996
From: Simon Twigger <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Extra exam pool practice available on-line
Date: 27 Mar 1996 18:04:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4jc001$[e-mail]>

The new Extra examination pool which comes into effect as of the end of
June 1996 is now available for practice on-line. Along with all the
other examinations, it can be found at:

http://www.biochem.mcw.edu/Postdocs/Simon/radio/exam.html

I do not have the figures for the new extra exam at this time, though
they should be available within a few weeks. If there are any bugs in
this new question pool please let me know!

        73, Simon AA9PW




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: No CQ's On 75 Meters ??
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:46:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>

Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to
call CQ on 75 meters.  They also said that a number of hams on the
band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't
know why.

Can someone explain this to me?

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:38 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Fred McKenzie)
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:12:06 -0500
References: <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>

In article <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (WB3U) wrote:
> Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to
> call CQ on 75 meters.  They also said that a number of hams on the
> band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't
> know why.

Jack-

Suppose you can hear relatively weak stations in conversation on a
frequency, but you call CQ anyway.  That is bad operating practice.

Now, suppose a group of Hams "hang out" on a particular frequency.  They
may be doing other things in the shack, but all listening for someone to
say something.  It may have been 30 minutes since anyone said anything,
but as soon as you call CQ on their frequency, they will all jump in and
pretend you are causing severe interference!  For such a crowded band,
these Hams are real Hogs.  They are the ones guilty of bad operating
practice, not the innocent person calling CQ.

There are obviously two sides to this.  On one side, you may not hear a
weaker station talking to someone near you.  Why not just ask if the
frequency is occupied, before you call CQ?  On the other side, why not
invite the person calling CQ, to join the group?  Is this asking too much?

73, Fred, K4DII


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chuck Hanavin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ??
Date: 29 Mar 1996 16:43:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4jh3vo$[e-mail]>
References: <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>

In article <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>,
WB3U <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to
>call CQ on 75 meters.  They also said that a number of hams on the
>band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't
>know why.
>
>Can someone explain this to me?
>
>73,
>Jack  WB3U

It's not bad practice to call cq on any frequency,
including 2m repeaters, in my book.

Chuck (WB3FJJ)




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys
Date: 24 Mar 1996 14:28:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4j3m77$[e-mail]>
References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:

< stuff deleted......>

: Again, get back to us when you've passed 1B. Many of us have, though it
: took much longer than a month, but not all of us feel proud of ourselves
: for wasting so much effort on a mindless activity of dubious utility.
: You *do* appear to be an ideal candidate to pass the Morse exams quickly
: and easily. You demonstrate the mindlessness so essential to being an easy
: subject for the conditioning (brainwashing) required. It's always easier
: to scribble on a blank slate.

: Gary
: --
: Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems

: Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp addre
sses
: 534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
: Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

Gary, you sound to me like the ham's ham. A legend in your own mind. Would
you please mind telling us what you include in your 'ham' activities besides
sitting behind the keyboard and criticizing just about anything anybody else
has to say ?  Is that your idea of the new 'digital' ham ?  Or did you just
run out of things to break so now you think it's your job to bust
everyone's chops ? Just because you thought learning CW was a waste of your
precious time doesn't necessarily mean everyone feels that way. Judging from
the amount of digital garbage you spew into the amateur radio news groups,
seems to me you have plenty of time to waste anyway........ Somebody
tries to write something constructive that may help somebody else, and you
have to come along and try and screw it up. Many of us did learn CW in
month..... but that makes us not as brilliant as you, because you took
longer ?  What kind of logic is that ? Amateur radio is a many faceted hobby,
at least for most of us, so you stick to your mindless typing and we'll go
work CW on HF, or packet on the satellites, or FM on 2 meters and hopefully
we won't bump into you. Just becuase one part of the hobby is something you
don't (or can't) participate in, don't fool yourself into thinking the rest
of the world can't either.


73, Jim KH2D






From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys
Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:12:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4j5h0f$[e-mail]>
References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk>

In article <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk>, KD4GIK <[e-mail]> wrote:

...

>The time you crybabies have spent rationalizing, wringing your hands in
>frustration, and working the internet crybaby net to death, you could have
>passed the 20 wpm requirement.  GET OVER IT.  Study.  Apply yourself.  Once
>you have successfully completed this goal, you'll be proud of youself.
>You'll feel good.  You'll be telling others how EASY it was.

Nice bit of encouragement; I sure just about anyone that didn't want
to learn Morse code before reading this note will have a complete
change of heart.

Now, on a serious note, what about folks like me that already have
an Extra class license but still think the Morse code requirement is
ready for retirement?  How do you smack us into shape?

Please respect the Followup-To: line.

--
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 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 20:29:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4jc8qt$[e-mail]>
References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <[e-mail]> <4j3m77$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j5r02$[e-mail]> <4jahoe$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] wrote:

>My point here is "practical knowledge"...

CW *is* practical knowledge.  I can't count the number of times I've
attempted to migrate a technical discussion from CW to the phone
bands, only to discover that the Q5 CW QSO couldn't be continued on
phone.  The opposite is also true - when band conditions are
unfavorable for SSB, I can almost always carry on with CW, and with a
significant margin to spare in terms of readability.

>It'll help the hobby more than any license class or any CW
>requirement, and remember, it started out as a hobby, still is, and
>will always be!

Which is exactly why CW should continue to exist as both a common mode
of operation and a licensing requirement.  Some of the newer digital
modes may be more effective than CW in terms of pure communications
effectiveness, but that comes at the expense of additional equipment,
complexity and expense.

CW has no peer when both reliability and simplicity are considered.
The fact that CW also requires operators to show a degree of genuine
motivation before joining the ranks is a side benefit.

For Amateur use, all the factors must be weighed, not just one.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:44 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Monty Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:01:58 GMT
References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <[e-mail]> <4j3m77$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j5r02$[e-mail]> <4jahoe$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>...I have noticed some Extra's and Advanced
>license holders who look down towards no-code ticket holders as lower class
>operators who are too lazy or not smart enough to learn code...

This is unfortunate.  Morse abilities are only required for HF operations,
with faster Morse and more difficult written tests required for additional HF
operating priveleges and the priveleges of operating equipment in space and
administering amateur exams.  If you are not interested in operating HF, not
interested in being a satellite trustee, and not interested in becoming a VE,
why on earth would you want anything beyond the codeless Tech, even if you cou
ld?

If you want to convert CB radios to 10m and use them to chat with folks in Sou
th
America when the bands open, by all means take your 5 wpm Morse test and get y
our
tech-plus.  If you'd like to tune up on any of eight HF bands and work the onl
y
RTTY station on the Falklands on 20m, go for the General.  If you'd like to pa
ss
NTS traffic on the Texas CW net, and become a VE, go for the Extra.  But if al
l
your interests lie above 30 MHz, I would question your need for the code.

In all fairness, you did say "SOME extras...."

>  Not smart
>enough?  Hmmm...  When was the last time I heard someone ask what the
>morse equivilent was for a particular letter?  Then again, I cannot even begi
n
>to tell the number of times these same few people have asked me how to
>configure their computer to do this, or for me to write a program to do that,
>all related to ham radio of course...

The field of radio is big enough that you can be a radio expert and still
need help with computers.  Are you falling into the same fault which you
attach to them, by assuming they should be at a certain computer proficiency
just because they hold radio licenses?  Someone who is an RF whiz and can buil
d
his own transmitters, receivers, and antennas from scratch would not necessari
ly
have any need for computers.  And when he finally takes the plunge, I would ho
pe
folks with your computer abilities would be around to cushion the shock, just
as
he should help you if you need to know who is the trustee of the machine you'r
e
on and you can't keep up with the CW IDer.

>...I do think some degree of testing is required, at least for a little while
>longer, although I'd like to see the morse requirement dropped.  I for one ha
ve
>no plans to EVER learn code, even if it means I have to wait another 20 years
>before I can do HF...  I have more constructive things to do with my time, li
ke
>run my business, or worry if the sync pulse on my ATV unit is too high...

That's the whole idea behind incentive licensing.  If the effort required to g
et
on HF is not worth the benefit, maybe your interests in the hobby lie elsewher
e.
Plans can be changed, and HF will always be there for you should you change yo
ur
mind.  Even if it takes 20 years.

>This is an issue that will never go away until code is abolished...

Whoa, you want to abolish code?  What will my Vibroplex and I do?

>If the
>'old-timers' are worried about the integrity and intelligence of the operator
s
>allowed to run HF, then how about replacing the HF requirement with a
>P.C. proficiency requirement...

I can see it now:
 504a) If an ATV image of a beautiful woman is transmitted, you should:
       1. Signal the wolf whistle
       2. Ask for her fax number
       3. Ignore it and remain professional
       4. Notify the nearest FCC office
The most P.C. answer, of course is (3).

Seriously, though, you went on to explain what you meant by PC:

>Packet connections, RTTY, etc.  A PC test could
>include sitting down at a computer and hooking a TNC up to a computer and rad
io,
>configuring the software and connecting to a node.  Or, how about a requireme
nt
>for Radio Programming proficiency??  It seems that many hams, both new-comers
>and old-timers have trouble setting up these new hi-tech rigs...

I find it interesting that you argue against the CW test elements, but suggest
two other tests that have so much in common with the CW elements.  The princip
al
argument against the CW element has been that it tests the applicant in the
operation of modes which constitute a subset of the hobby in which he may not
have an interest at the time of testing.  Your proposals would do the same, an
d
I'm sure we would have similar arguments breaking out over them.  Why should I
have to show that I can operate packet if I have no interest in doing so?

--
.........Monty.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:47 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys
Date: 27 Mar 1996 00:48:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4ja398$[e-mail]>
References: <4j5r02$[e-mail]>

>   [e-mail] (Jim Kehler) writes:
. Before that I was very active on HF, worked about
>  49,000 stations from here in Guam, and was active in my younger years
>  in HF contesting.
>
>  Of all the no-code types licensed here in Guam
> Guam
>

>  Remember when you used to get a DXCC list from the ARRL for free ?
>  Now they sell you one for 2 bucks (and if you live in Guam they mail
>  it surface mail to save 3 cents and it takes 3 months to get here). I
>
>
>  73, Jim KH2D
>
>
>>>>
GUAM????? i need guam

599 NNJ  qsl ???  copy??? over???

HMMMMM it's been 30 seconds..where's my qsl card????

73, steve


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys
Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:17:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4j5h9m$[e-mail]>
References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <[e-mail]> <4j3m77$[e-mail]>

In article <4j3m77$[e-mail]>,
Jim Kehler <[e-mail]>, in an unabashed flame
that would have been much more appropriate for private e-mail, wrote:

>Just becuase one part of the hobby is something you
>don't (or can't) participate in, don't fool yourself into thinking the rest
>of the world can't either.

With only a minor change, this statement can apply quite well to the
Morse exams:

  Just becuase one part of the hobby is something you
  like to participate in, don't fool yourself into thinking the rest
  of the world should be forced to, also.

Now, please respect the Followup-To: line.
--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:49 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NWS WWIN EMWIN and One-Way Data Solutions
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:34:04 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

A friend of mine went to the Tulsa hamfest this weekend, and saw
a demo by SkyWalker Data Systems.  They sell a decoder for the NWS data
transmissions.  I hadn't heard of this, and it sounded interesting to see
what I could find on the Web.  It was quite a battle with the several search
engines, but I finally did track down the main page.  It is:

        http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/document/emwin.htm

There's a schematic and protocol description.  Basically it is 1200,N,8,1
and the components are a TCM3105 and a MAX232.  Here locally (Oklahoma
City area) the data is transmitted on 169.025.

I think this is a great application for home use.  How many of us really
listen to the NWS audio?  The data products will be of much higher value.

I notice that Kantronics has released their new Amateur Paging upgrade to
the KPC-9612.  It might make a great combo to transmit Alerts via
alphanumeric pagers (people chasing storms).  I can see the need for voice
diminishing, and the greater throughput and reliability that can be
achieved.  I'm sure there are many more applications for both of these
systems.  I'm thinking about making a clone of the NWS idea and transmitting
all the BBS messages as files.  A person would never have to log on to
a BBS ever again.  Anyone could just tune an old scanner to the frequency
and use the software to store each file.  You could then read the junk once
a month a keep up with the Morse Code debate :-)

Here's the two companies with products:

1)   Maryland Radio Center, Inc.
     8576 Laureldale Drive
     Laurel, MD  20724
     [phone]
     [phone]
     BBS with demo software [phone]
     EMWIN datastream on-line demo, 1200-8-N-1  [phone]

     a)   MRC demodulator kit, unassembled                         $29.95
     b)   MRC demodulator, assembled and tested                    $69.95
     c)   MRC Weathernode software                                 $49.95
     d)   MRC WeatherNode software plus the demodulator kit        $69.95
     e)   MRC WeatherNode software plus the assembled demodulator  $99.95

     $5 shipping, + 5% sales tax for MD addresses.
     Call for their latest prices and special discounts.

2)   SkyWalker Data Systems, Inc.
     7303 West 35th Str.
     Tulsa, OK  74107
     [phone]

     a)   MRC Weathernode software plus the assembled demodulator  $99.95
     $5 shipping, + 4.5% sales tax for OK addresses.

--
Steve Sampson, N5OWK
mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:50 1996
From: [e-mail] (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: On what FTP HOST can I upload a HAM homebrew software about CW meteor scatter
Date: 24 Mar 1996 18:50:12 GMT
Message-ID: <4j45h4$[e-mail]>

73 QRO dear OM.
Tks reading this mail.

I would like to upload on a HAM FTP HOST my software who do TX and RX
CW MS hight speed with a single PC286 (or more) and a very small
interface (as JVFAX).

But, I can't upload my software (ZIP file of about 110 kByte with C source,
help, database, ....) on a FTP HOST because the writting access is denied.

Who can help me to give a access to a HOST or give me the adress of a
HAM FTP HOST with permissive upload ?

Tks a lot, Jean-Pierre
-Packet : [e-mail]
-Internet : malezet@MicroNet        or   101707,2125@Compuserve


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rich Mulvey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: On what FTP HOST can I upload a HAM homebrew software about CW meteor scatter
Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:51:46 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j45h4$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 24 Mar 1996 18:50:12 GMT, Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV <[e-mail]> w
rote:
>73 QRO dear OM.
>Tks reading this mail.
>
>I would like to upload on a HAM FTP HOST my software who do TX and RX
>CW MS hight speed with a single PC286 (or more) and a very small
>interface (as JVFAX).
>
>But, I can't upload my software (ZIP file of about 110 kByte with C source,
>help, database, ....) on a FTP HOST because the writting access is denied.
>
>Who can help me to give a access to a HOST or give me the adress of a
>HAM FTP HOST with permissive upload ?

   Have you tried ftp.ucsd.edu?

--
Rich Mulvey, aa2ys                                        Rochester, NY   USA
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
aa2ys@wb2psi.#wny.ny.us



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Randy Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Phone number for EF Johnson needed
Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:49:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Message-ID: <4j9anq$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Randy Hall)

I need the phone number for EF Johnson, for the group that sells the radios.

Thanks,

Randy
WA2AGE

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Phone number for EF Johnson needed
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:24:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4je407$[e-mail]>
References: <4j9anq$[e-mail]> <4jc8op$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Jim <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Believe it or not, E.F. Johnson is listed in directory information
>in Wauseca, Wisconsin.

>Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to determine the
>area code for Wauseca and call directory information.

>Should you or any of your team be captured, the Wouff Hong will disavow
>all knowledge of your activities.
>N6OTQ

AT&T home pages list two 800 numbers:

800-247-8256
800-328-3911

73   Skid  W1TTY






From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:53 1996
From: Roland S Geter PhD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Phone number for EF Johnson needed
Date: 28 Mar 1996 00:35:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4jcmsn$[e-mail]>
References: <4j9anq$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

What did you want to know about EF Johnson?  Maybe I can help you.
Something to do with a certain model of equipment?

Roland S Geter - WB6LNA/7




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jason Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Subject: Problem with Indoor HF system
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:14:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9tul$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I have an Icom IC-730 HF rig powered by a Pyramid 30A power supply.  I
have just acquired the MFJ-1621, an indoor/portable antenna with
built-in tuning system.  I am having a problem however.

On most bands, especially 20M, if I try to key the transmitter the
transceiver dies completely, just as though the power were shut off.
Further, the power supply meters all go to zero.  The only thing on
the whole system that works is the power supply power light.  :)

The only way to get anything back to life is to cycle the power on the
power supply...

I suspect that this is some sort of RF feedback problem - throwing
random lengths of wire on the transmitter ground lug does some to
help.  Does this sound like RF feedback, or something else?  What
solutions do you recommend?   Thanks in advance...



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mike Keitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna
Subject: Re: Problem with Indoor HF system
Date: 27 Mar 1996 17:31:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4jbu1f$[e-mail]>
References: <4j9tul$[e-mail]>

In article <4j9tul$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jason Hanso
n) says:
>
>I have an Icom IC-730 HF rig powered by a Pyramid 30A power supply.  I
>have just acquired the MFJ-1621, an indoor/portable antenna with
>built-in tuning system.  I am having a problem however.
>
>On most bands, especially 20M, if I try to key the transmitter the
>transceiver dies completely, just as though the power were shut off.
>Further, the power supply meters all go to zero.  The only thing on
>the whole system that works is the power supply power light.  :)
>
>The only way to get anything back to life is to cycle the power on the
>power supply...

The power has indeed been shut off.  Most power supplies contain a
"crowbar" circuit that fires a SCR to shunt out the output should the
voltage rise much above the rated value.  This protects your radio from
receiving 20-30 V should the regulator in the power supply fail.  Most
likely, RF is being rectified in the power supply and causing it to regulate
improperly, though it is possible that only the crowbar circuit is
being fooled. (it would be unwise to simply disconnect the SCR, of
course).

So the solution is to keep RF away from the power supply.  This could be
hard to do with an indoor antenna.  Obviously, the first measure is to
move the antenna as far as possible from the equipment.  The cord between
the power supply and the radio can act as an antenna.  So ideally shorten
it (you may not be ready to do that since those cords are expensive) or
coil it up to the minimum length possible with setting the power supply
right next to or under the radio.  Placing ferrite cores on the power
lead and the antenna coax may help too.  Now that the supply and the radio
are right next to each other, bond them together with a grounding strap.
Try putting a capacitor (0.01 - 0.1 uF disc) across the output terminals
of the supply, or even better a group of 3 capacitors in a triangle from
the two ouput terminals and the supply case.

If none of this helps, try operating from a 12V lead-acid battery instead
of the power supply.  This may uncover other problems, such as RF getting
into the microphone cord or on the radio case (the knobs feel "hot").  If
that is the case, better grounding or otherwise trapping RF from getting
back onto the outside of the coax is in order. It is tough to get a good
ground in an apartment situation which I assume you have.

-Mike KD4QDM



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Qcao Membership drive
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:06:58 -0100

Cleaning up my hard drive, I came across this old gem.
Enjoy, de Hans, K0HB
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The Quarter Century Appliance Operators was founded in the early 1950's
by a small group of Amateur Radio operators from the Pacific Northwest.
 They had been active in their hobby for over
25 years, yet still lacked the basic knowledge of radio
electronics and had no idea of how their equipment worked.
    They banded together to try and protect each others honor and
pride.  At radio gatherings and club meetings in the 1950s one
was considered unworthy of the name Ham Radio Operator if he
or she couldn't not only name components, but know how to solder
them together and make a radio work!
    When faced with insults and dreision, those few hardy
pioneers banded together and formed the First Chapter and
National Organization of the QCAO.  This was known as the "Cold
Solder" Chapter.  They even coined the now-famous club byword
"e pluribus ignoramae" which is Latin for "We don't have to know
how to solder, we just wanna talk on our radios."
    No veterans of that first chapter are known to be active on
the air today.  In the late 1950s and early '60s, with the
worldwide interest in science and space and technology, the QCAO
membership went underground.
    It is with great pride and dignity that today in the 1990s
the revived QCAO stands ready to rise from the ashes, and become
the standard of mediocrity it once proudly was.  In honor of
those first pioneering members, QCAO hereby invites all eligible
applicants to step forward and join!
    The benefits of QCAO include not only the pride of
membership.  Think of the warm glow you will feel at club
meetings and gatherings showing off your new all-plastic
imprinted QCAO pocket protector!  And that's not all!  For your
minimal membership fee, you will also receive a handsome,
suitable-for-framing, certificate of honor, with hand-lettered
name and Charter Membership Number.  Other QCAO memorabilia
will soon be available for members, including T-shirts, caps,
pins, etc.  At this date charter membership numbers are still
available.    Membership requires a 25 years (more or less)
interest in Amateur Radio, coupled with a basic ignorance of how
radios work and how to repair them.
    Think of meeting other QCAO members on the air!  No more
embarrassing pauses when someone in the QSO mentions an RF choke
or a parasitic bleeder...Be able to exchange meaningful sharing,
talk about real things, yes, even swap QCAO numbers with each
other!  And soon perhaps . . . a worldwide QCAO contest!
    You no longer have to shrink to the back of the room at post-
meeting sessions of your radio club.  Just display your QCAO
protector and others will be able to identify you immediately.
Who knows?  Perhaps one of the originals from that old QCAO
Chapter is just waiting for you to find him.  Join now!  Remember
"We don't have to know how to solder, we just wanna talk on our
radios"!  Don't let technoids embarrass you and kick jargon in
your face.  Stand up for what's right!  Join QCAO!
    "e pluribus ignoramae"
-----
Original author unknown, so flame her.




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:58 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: QRO Merchants
Date: 29 Mar 1996 04:17:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4jfo94$lgp$[e-mail]>

In light of all the heat and smoke here lately about
"QRO merchants" and "high power contesters", it was
interesting to note that the results of a recent major
ARRL contest show only 18% of the stations used high
power (more than 150W). (Sample size = 3,032 entries.)

7% ran less than 5W, and the remaining 75% ran somewhere
between 5W and 150W (most probably 100W).

--
--73, de Hans K0HB

--Minds, like parachutes, only work when they are opened.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:38:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: R.L.Drake Radio club on the Web
Date: 26 Mar 1996 21:57:56 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9p94$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

The R.L.Drake Amateur Radio Club is on the web at w3.one.net/~sniper
Become an Honorary member ! Check it out.....

Bob


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (G4KFK)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto
Date: 25 Mar 1996 05:02:46 -0500
Message-ID: <4j5r06$[e-mail]>
References: <4j5nen$[e-mail]>

In article <4j5nen$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Walt
Davidson) writes:

>Subject:       Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto
>From:  [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
>Date:  Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:58:50 GMT
>I should think more radio amateurs speak Classical Latin than Esperanto!

ISTR a recent survey showed that more people now speak KLINGON than
Esparanto.

I know of one radio amateur who speaks Klingon (G7LTT). Are there any
others?

>(Morse Code is a perfectly satisfactory international language.)

Agreed - but CW's opponents fail to see it as a language, just as a means
of encoding English.

Qap'lagh
Mike
G4KFK



73
Mike
G4KFK


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bruno MASALA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:11:01 +0300
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Radio amateurs speak Esperanto in

Europe:
sun, mon 12h30: 14266 kHz
mon to fri 8h30: 7066
wed 19h45: 3633
mon 17h: 3770
thu: 16h: 3770.

SouthAmerica:
sat, sun 20h30: 14266.

Pacific Region:
sat 22h: 21266
sat 24h: 21266.

All times UTC

Bruno

--
Bruno Masala
OSIEK AERA La Gazeto


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B. Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto
Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:05:48 -0500
Message-ID: <4j6jpc$[e-mail]>
References: <4j5nen$[e-mail]> <4j5r06$[e-mail]>

In article <4j5r06$[e-mail]>, G4KFK <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4j5nen$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Walt
>Davidson) writes:
>
>>Subject:      Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto
>>From: [e-mail] (Walt Davidson)
>>Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:58:50 GMT
>>I should think more radio amateurs speak Classical Latin than Esperanto!
>ISTR a recent survey showed that more people now speak KLINGON than
>Esparanto.
>I know of one radio amateur who speaks Klingon (G7LTT). Are there any
>others?

N2KOT just co-edited the translation of Hamlet "back into the original
Klingon".

>Mike

//jbaltz
--
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]                KE3ML


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:03 1996
From: [e-mail](LARRY PIKE )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio Classes in Chgo - Nov/Tek/Gen/Adv/Xtra
Date: 26 Mar 1996 04:56:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4j7tdn$[e-mail]>

So the printer said ....
"What's the big deal --
It's only one letter off!"


        They are nice cards - just the wrong callsign.
So I asked myself "What can I do with all these
QSL cards that are 'almost' right?"
 And then it came to me -- turn lemons
into lemonade and send them out anyway
to introduce myself and my
"one-day license seminars"  to other hams.

        My idea is simply this --
ham radio classes see a lot of drop-outs
because the classes go on too darn long!
People have better things to do with their lives
than attend  6 to 12 weeks of ham radio classes.
I am looking for students and
 sponsors for one-day license workshops.
If you know anyone interested in getting their
Novice ticket or upgrading to Technician,
General, Advanced or Extra, please
have them call me. I will teach a one-day
 theory seminar & workshop for any
 license level -- Novice through Extra.
 I've taught ham radio to about 300 people
during the past 10 years from Novice
through Extra and always enjoy the excitement
in the faces in front of me.

        What do I need to make this happen?
I am looking for a club that wants to sponsor
the workshops. The sponsoring club will:
1) provide a suitable room for an all-day seminar
    and
2) get students lined up for the classes.

What will the club get in return for their effort?
Classes are a great source of  new members.
Classes can also be an income producer
if the club wants to charge for them.
Keep the money as a donation to the club
or let that money pay for a one-year club
membership for the new ham.
My services are free to the club and the students.


Please call me if....
* Your club or repeater group is
        interested in sponsoring a workshop
* You or someone you know is interested
         in a one-day Upgrade Workshop
* You know someone interested in a
        one-day Novice Workshop


        73 de WD9HCR
        Larry Pike
        [phone]
        [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:04 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Thomas)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j1egi$[e-mail]> <4jae28$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 06:33:52 GMT

HA! Good (and typical) stories.

My favorite experience was the time I was checking out a shortwave
reveiver (new model) and happened on a radio Netherlands program
on how to buy a shortwave radio. The announcer said, "here are three
questions that your salesperson should be able to answer. If they
don't know the answers, take your business elsewhere." At that point,
the RS salescreature said, "Turn it off."  (*snicker*)

BTW - No, I don't remember what the three questions were...

--
*********************************************************************
* "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do."              *
*                                                                   *
*  [e-mail]  - Glenn Thomas                                  *
*********************************************************************


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"?
Date: 24 Mar 1996 14:42:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4j3n06$[e-mail]>
References: <4j224j$[e-mail]>

LarryTambling ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio
: operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another
: Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits
: again by IDφng then says "clear."  Is this guy "broadcasting"
: according to FCC Part 97?  If it is not broadcasting in the
: legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice?
: Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have
: fun!!

Larry, it depends on how much you like the guy.... If he wasn't talking
to anyone, I guess some people would say he was 'broadcasting'. If you
don't like the guy, and he's not broadcasting, some people would say it's
poor practice to transmit 'unnecessary' stuff... If you like the guy,
let's say it's good amateur practice, i.e., he made his call, and now
is letting people know he's finished with the repeater and anyone else
needing to use it can go ahead. Repeater 'ettiquette' seems to be different
depending where you are and whose repeater you are using. I doubt
seriously the candy company would say he was broadcasting, and they
are the only one's who really count when it comes to rules infractions.
In our neighborhood, we would consider what happened as A-OK.....

73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"?
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:55:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4j3nu2$[e-mail]>
References: <4j224j$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (LarryTambling) wrote:

>Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio
>operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another
>Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits
>again by IDφng then says "clear."  Is this guy "broadcasting"
>according to FCC Part 97?  If it is not broadcasting in the
>legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice?
>Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have
>fun!!

This is sort of a "which comes first, the chicken or the egg."
Think first of the rules as they pertain to the operator's station.
You are required to ID only at the END of the QSO.  So when you call
your frind and give your call, that call can be considered the end of
a QSO which in this case could be a sort of a braodcast.  Many folks
do say somthing like nothing heard and give their call again and that
is probably more of a broadcast than just the simple call.
Now the fact that the operator was transmitting on the input of a
repeater makes absolutely no difference in the question since the
signals are all the same but in the case of the repeater can be heard
further away.
In a narrow sense, the signals may be broadcasting but the common term
for broadcasting seems to mean more than a very short transmission.
It is more longer transmissions.  FCC rules would appear to suppport
this view in that it makes special provisions for the broadcasting or
one way transmissions for code practice and bulletins
BTW, the use of "nothing heard" grates on my ears almost as badly as
the often heard, "... for ID."   Both are wasteful of air time.

73
Skid   W1TTY





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:07 1996
From: Robert Bissett <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:08:35 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j224j$[e-mail]>
To: LarryTambling <[e-mail]>

LarryTambling wrote:
> =

> Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio
> operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another
> Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits
> again by ID=EDng then says "clear."  Is this guy "broadcasting"
> according to FCC Part 97?  If it is not broadcasting in the
> legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice?
> Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have
> fun!!

Your thinly-disguised attempt to stir up trouble and watch others argue
 while you sit back and laugh will not, I hope, attract very many =

 people. Go elsewhere for the material you need for your paper or report
 or whatever . All the material you need is in the FCC rules..read them.


-- =

      *********
Bob Bissett      [e-mail]
      *********


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:08 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"?
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:47:46 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j224j$[e-mail]>

LarryTambling wrote:
> =

> Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio
> operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another
> Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits
> again by ID=EDng then says "clear."  Is this guy "broadcasting"
> according to FCC Part 97? =


Get a life.

-- =

Steve Sampson, N5OWK
mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (LarryTambling)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Repeater "Broadcasting"?
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:39:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4j224j$[e-mail]>

Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio
operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another
Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits
again by IDφng then says "clear."  Is this guy "broadcasting"
according to FCC Part 97?  If it is not broadcasting in the
legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice?
Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have
fun!!



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:10 1996
From: "C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 22:23:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9qoh$[e-mail]>
References: <4j224j$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (LarryTambling) wrote:
>Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio
>operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another
>Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits
>again by IDφng then says "clear."  Is this guy "broadcasting"
>according to FCC Part 97?

No, he is not broadcasting.  In amateur radio, broadcasting is defined as
"Transmissions intended for reception by the the general public."  Put
away Webster's dictionary - the only definitions that works for this
question is what is in 97.3(a)(10).

In general, one way transmissions are prohibited by 97.113(b).  However
that section provides for exceptions that are allowed elswhere in the
rules.

97.111(b)(2) eliminate any question about whether calling another station
is considered a prohibited one-way transmission.  It may be a one-way
transmission, but it is permitted.

Station identification is a permitted one-way transmission.  The ID
requirements of 97.119 still apply, even if no two way communication was
established with another station.

>If it is not broadcasting in the
>legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice?
>Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have
>fun!!

Sounds good to me - but then "good amateur practice" is often a subjective
thing.  He called another station - the station did not answer - he gives
his call and says "clear", indicating to other amateur stations (not the
general public) that he has completed his call and is "clearing" the
channel so someone else can use it.

Some will argue that "clearing" is not necessary.  On a quiet repeater
maybe not.  On a busy system, "clearing" the channel leaves no doubt to
others that channel is available.

This was too easy... There has got to be more to this request for input.






From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (JACK CLARKE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"?
Date: 24 Mar 1996 19:07:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4j46i8$[e-mail]>


To:  Jim, KH2D

I like your explanation!  Nobody can top that one.

de Jack  VE3EED/W7
--


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:12 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeater setup (how to weasel)
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 00:24:32 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4idkn1$[e-mail]> <4imv37$[e-mail]>

Warren Ring <[e-mail]> writes:

>on site without an insider helping (sponsoring) you, since that's
>an invitation to be charged ever-increasing rent.

Amen to that....some sites here are getting $400 a month for the antenna
space alone in New England....

Steve Lapinskas
KA1JJA


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Charlie Root)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Restoring vintage kit
Date: 23 Mar 1996 19:40:06 -0000
Message-ID: <4j1k2m$[e-mail]>

Dear All,
I am an SWL living in the UK.  I am restoring some old RAF airborne
sets, a T1154, R1155 combo to be precise.  I've got one going but
need some spares for the other 3.

Has anybody got, or know where I might find, the meters that go in these
sets?.  One is labeled MAG FEED and is a square (about 1.5 inch) meter
in a bakelite case made by sangamo weston part no 10A/12140.  It goes up
to 300 with an actual FSD at 100mA.  The second is labelled A.E.AMPS
and is a thermocouple meter with an FSD of 3.5 AMPS.  Same case and
manufacturer.  Part no 10A/12162.  I need one of the MAG FEED and three
of the A.E.AMPS.

Replies by EMail please as my connection to news is a bit flaky.

Cheers

Robin Birch [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Seth Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Rohn RTP Series
Date: 22 Mar 96 18:43:50 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

In March 96 QST there's an ad for a new series of ROHN RTP self
supporting towers. They are supposed to be actually designed for
self support, unlike the 25 and 45 etc. which are not, but often
installed that way. Does anyone have any experience with the RTP series?
They are made in 40 to 190 ft. designs.

Seth KC2WE


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Date: 25 Mar 96 17:21:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Roll-up J-Pole
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>







     === 2m/70cm Dual Band J-Pole made from 300 ohm twin lead ===

              _____      _______       ___
                |       |       |       |
                |       |   O   |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
             54-1/4"    |       |    38-1/2"
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |      _|       |
                |       |   N |_       _|__
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |       |
                |       |       |    15-3/4"
                |       |       |       |
                |       |_______| ___   |
                |       |       | 1/4"  |
               _|_      |       | ___  _|__
                        ^       ^
                        |       |
                    Coax Inner  Coax Outer
                    Conductor   Conductor


         SWR is 2:1 across the 2m band and from 435mhz to
                     450mhz on the 70cm band.


1.  Use good quality TV twin lead.
2.  Strip insulation at the solder point for coax feedline.
3.  Cut out and remove the 1/2" long notch N.
4.  Feed with a length of 50 ohm coax and terminate with the
    appropriate connector.  Tape coax at feedpoint to the twin lead,
    or use heat shrink, and make sure the joints are insulated from
    each other.
5.  Antenna may be sleeved inside 1/2" PVC for outside mounting or
    hung on a loop of string run thru hole O.
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Roll-up J-Pole
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:56:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4jemh3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Hey Clint

A handy little pocket J-Pole can be constructed of a piece of broken
tape rule.  Rolls up in a snap and stays open when unrolled.

TTUL
Gary






From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:18 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: rsgb april 1996 editorial by G0TWW
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:42:12 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Radcom April 1996

                           Stop the Knocking

I have noted in recent weeks  the proliferation of  anti-RSGB diatribe
on the
packet  network. I know members  will say this has been going on for
years. But
recently it seems to have become most fashionable  to knock the
Society and its
work  at every given opportunity.  It  must  be  extremely
frustrating for the
perpetrators that the Society does not respond in a similar vain.

To  take one example of the criticism aimed at the Society , I
recently read
that the  Society fails to take account the views of its members.
Nothing could
be further  from the  truth.  Over  the past  two years  the Society
has held a
number of regional meetings up and down the country.  These meetings
where open
to both members and non-members, and gave  detractors the ideal
opportunity to
put forward  their views. With  out exception  theses meetings were
very poorly
attended.  At most  of the large rallies and events we attend there is
always a
chance to take to  task members of the HQ team, myself included, and
members of
Council and the volunteers Committees. Most people who take the time
to talk to
us are most supportive of the work of the Society.

I  think at times members and non-members of the Society forget that
the vast
majority of  the work carried out by the Society on behalf of the
amateur radio
community within the UK  is done  by volunteers.   Over  2000  people
work on a
volunteer basis for the Society. Without the efforts of these
dedicated people,
amateur radio would have sunk without trace years ago.

All of us that hold a license and enjoy our hobby own them a debt of
gratitude
for their efforts. They certainly do not deserve the  level of
criticism  aimed
them by a few mis-informed mischief makers  who have put their views
across on
the  packet  network,  but  do  not  have  the  courage  to  raise
their views
face-to-face when given the opportunity.

Criticism of HQ staff is  acceptable,  because the  staff  and  I are
paid to
service  the needs of the membership.  However such  criticism should
not be on
packet network, because HQ staff - as professionals - are prohibited
from using
amateur radio to reply.  If we are failing in  our duties  then I
would welcome
any  constructive  criticism in writing, back by facts and figures.
That would
give me and the staff the opportunity to make  any changes  required
to improve
the service.

Misinformed criticism is  unproductive  and serves no  purpose other
than to
create ill-feeling.I am sure that many thousands of amateurs are fed
up as I am
at the rubbish put out on packet by a few  operators  who  feel  the
network is
there solely to broadcast their views. Its time the  knocking
stopped, because
in the  eyes of  the general pubic it does nothing to enhance the
reputation of
amateur radio which is already suffering enough from "external"
sources.

By Peter Kirby G0TWW General Manager.





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Peter A. Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Senator Goldwater Intervi
Date: 25 Mar 1996 11:05:02 -0800
Message-ID: <4j6qov$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Clint Bradford <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>>An in-depth, amateur radio interview, 2 hours in length, is now
>>>available on the net, via RealAudio, courtesy of TAPR and Greg Jones.

In article <[e-mail]>,

>And why is this of importance?  Was it a particularly good interview?
>Does it promote Amateur Radio? Does it expose Goldwater's
>ultra-conservative politics? Why should we be interested???

Sen. Goldwater is a long-time ham radio operator (K7UGA), and has been a
staunch advocate of our fraternity in high places.  I've heard that he
still gets on the air.  Goldwater was born in 1909, so he's seen the
evolution of radio over most of the century.  Whether you agree with his
politics or not, he probably has quite a few good stories and insights to
share.

73,
Peter - KD7MW
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:21 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Sandy Lynch)
Subject: Re: Senator Goldwater Intervi
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:21:00 GMT


Interesting ................ "ultra-conservative", eh?   Hmmm
Be that as it may ... might surprise you to know that he hated
Nixon because he was a "liar" ... and that the president he
most admired during this century is/was ..............


      Harry S. Truman  (Democrat)


Put that in your pipe and smoke it.   :-)

Cheers
Sandy  "and unabashed radical middle-of-the-roader'".


Clint Bradford ([e-mail]) wrote:




: >>An in-depth, amateur radio interview, 2 hours in length, is now
: >>available on the net, via RealAudio, courtesy of TAPR and Greg Jones.

: And why is this of importance?  Was it a particularly good interview?
: Does it promote Amateur Radio? Does it expose Goldwater's
: ultra-conservative politics? Why should we be interested???

: The fact that this Amateur Radio program exists is important and
: pertinent. But please do us a favor and write a "mini-review" of the
: interview, and let us know why you think it's valuable for us!


: [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:22 1996
From: [e-mail](Kevin Alfred Strom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.amtenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Shunt Feed Crank-up?
Date: 29 Mar 1996 17:55:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4jh867$[e-mail]>

Has anyone ever shunt fed a crank-up tower?

Is there a good electrical connection between sections, or do the
sections need to be bonded together with a flexible cable?

Thanks,

Kevin WB4AIO
in Rochester, Minnesota


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:23 1996
From: Mike Mayer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: the radio spectrum
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:45:52 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Brian Peterson posted about the big poster you can get from the USGPO
called "United States Frequency Allocations - The Radio Spectrum".

I did some checking.  For example, Cleveland has a USGPO bookstore.
They are out of stock on the poster, but they knew of it's existence.
They will be ordering up some more (they said they'd even call me when
they come in).  And, they are only $3.50 apiece.  Since they were out of
stock, they were not able to look at one and tell me a printing date.
Hopefully they are newer than 1987, as Brian observed.  The guy on the
phone said that they are folded up, but that they are also quite large
when you unfold them.

So, if you are near a med-large metro area, look up US Government
Printing Office in the blue pages of your phone book, there may be one
right in your back yard instead of checking with the main office in D.C.

Mike

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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: THIS IS A SOFTWARE TO DO RX&TX meteor scatter CW MS high speed
Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:49:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf51u$[e-mail]>

Dear OM,

- If you are a HAM,
- If you enjoy CW and meteor scatter,
- If you enjoy experimentation,

Read this.

This mail is about an experimental software to do high speed CW MS TX and RX.

You need only a single PC (80286 or more), DOS 3.x (or more), with a serial in
terface (or parallel in the futur). It work also with WIN95 in a DOS window.

You can use it without any special equipment except a HAM TRX (of course) and
a very small hardware interface, auto-alimented (1 comparator as a uA741 and 1
 optocoupler), just to interface with the RX AF output and the TX keyer input.

You can download this software on the host " ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be ".
I put it on the directory " pub/incoming/hamradio/ ".
(tks to Rich AA2YS and Bob N6FRI for info, but ftp.ucsd.edu dont work well fro
m here, to many trafic!).
I dont know what apen with this file because the transfert was complet but I c
ant list the files !!!

The name of the file is " CWMSTXRX.ZIP ", about 110kbyte.
It contain " .exe ", " .hlp ", " .dtb ", ......files and the complete C source
 code.
This software is a HAM freeware software : you can do what you need with it an
d the code source.

Unfortunately, some files are in French because :
- I haven't no time to translate at this moment,
- My English is very poor,
- And this is just a software experiment (not a full package) : the first time
 I send it to HAM.

But this software work : I use it for many years in TX, and I use it during th
e last Quadrantide shower with the new DTR interface.



What do this software ? :
*************************

- It do TX CW call (Aurora, Es, DX, contest, beacon, automatic and periodic hi
gh speed CW MS for skeds, ...)

- You can access to the DL8EBW VHF database, to search a call, putting only on
e or few characters,

- And you can RECORD a high speed CW meteor scatter burst and PLAY BACK it SLO
WLY, to decode (listen) CW at a normal speed (I think the automatic CW decodin
g is not possible with meteor scatter bursts).



The Principe of this DIGITAL TAPE RECORDER is very simple :
************************************************************
1) RECORDING :
- Each front of the RX-AF is sent to the serial input PC interface (with a sin
gle comparator).
- This front generate a software interrupt.
- Each interrupt do :
    . Compare the timer with the last interrupt timer value,
    . Record the timers difference in an audio memory buffer.

2) PLAY BACK :
- To play back, the software read the audio memory buffer, output a front on y
our PC HP (with a higher frequency), and wait until the timer = audio-buffer-v
alue * X.


How to use this DTR :
*********************
- You heard a CW burst then : stop recording at the end of the burst,
- Use a software command to play-back the audio-buffer : The you listen the bu
rst with a CW at normal speed !!!


Sorry for my very bad English.

Enjoy yourself with this experiment and please tell me if you get some chance
or trouble.

73 QRO, and good DX.


Jean-Pierre MALEZET
Packet address = [e-mail]
Internet address = [e-mail]
              or   101707,2125@Compuserve



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:26 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: TTL/RS-232 converters
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4inamj$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:36:26 GMT

In article <4inamj$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Todd Jonz) writes:
>I'm in the market for a pair rig-to-PC interfaces (TTL to RS-232 level
>converters), one for a Yaesu FT-736R and another for a Kenwood TS-950SD.  I
>called the local HRO store to inquire about prices and availability and was
>absolutely astonished to learn that they want $110 and $120, respectively,
>for these little beasts.  I assume that this is in the ballpark of the MSRP,
>and that the other major suppliers will have similar prices.
>
>I recall seeing ads in the past in QST for several third parties offering
>these interfaces in the $40 to $50 price range, but after pouring through
>the last three issues, I've come up dry.  Can anybody give me a pointer?
>
>
>KB6JXT, Todd
>
>P.S.  Please excuse what may be a stupid hardware question from an admitted
>      software geek, but us there any possible justification for a $120
>      price tag on an item like this?  Seems *way* out of line to me....

It isn't when you consider the small volume sold. Most of the cost is
in handling and stocking and marketing the devices, of course. If you
don't want to pay, then build your own. Digikey sells the MAX232 chip
which will do the job, or you can go to Radio Shack and pick up a
1488 and a 1489 and do it the old fashioned way. In either case, you're
out less than $10. The MAX232 is the better way, because it only needs
+5 volts. The older chips needed external plus and minus supplies.

You can also kludge it with an opamp or a couple of transistors and
diodes, and that'll give you a parts cost under a dollar, though it
is considerably more trouble, and won't work at as high a baud.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TTL/RS-232 converters
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:03:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4iskhm$[e-mail]>
References: <4inamj$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Todd Jonz) wrote:

>I'm in the market for a pair rig-to-PC interfaces (TTL to RS-232 level
>converters), one for a Yaesu FT-736R and another for a Kenwood TS-950SD.  I
>called the local HRO store to inquire about prices and availability and was
>absolutely astonished to learn that they want $110 and $120, respectively,
>for these little beasts.  I assume that this is in the ballpark of the MSRP,
>and that the other major suppliers will have similar prices.

>I recall seeing ads in the past in QST for several third parties offering
>these interfaces in the $40 to $50 price range, but after pouring through
>the last three issues, I've come up dry.  Can anybody give me a pointer?


>KB6JXT, Todd

>P.S.  Please excuse what may be a stupid hardware question from an admitted
>      software geek, but us there any possible justification for a $120
>      price tag on an item like this?  Seems *way* out of line to me....

Give Personal Database Applications a call at 770-307-1511 (makers of
Logic Logging program).  They offer the LCU3 interface device which is
an interface that is housed inside a DB-25 connector.  The interface
gets its power from the computers serial port.  The unit resides
between the computer serial port and your HF rig.  They have several
models availabel depending on the rig your are trying to interface.
The units are designed and made by Phil Whitehouse (W1GEE) and are
priced in the $50.00 range.  Give them a call for details as some rigs
require additional stuff (some Kenwoods require the IF-10 kit be
installed).

                                73's & GUD LUCK

                                de KN0Z   Gary in Wyoming, MN


Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:29 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: uk radiocommunication agency phone numbers
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:41:53 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Due to the IRA London bombing of RA HQ, their new address is


The UK Radiocommunications Agency Webb site
===========================================
The Radiocommunications Agency is responsible for amateur radio in the
UK
and can be found at:

Radiocommunications Agency
New Kings Beam House
22 Upper Ground
London
SE1 9SA

HTTP://www.open.gov.uk/radiocom/rahome.htm

E-Mail address is: [e-mail]

RA Direct line phone numbers
===========================
Jim Norton:          Chief Executive RA            0171 211 0570
Roger Louth:         RA Head of R2 Mobile Services 0171 211 0175
John Keeling         Head of Amateur Radio         0171 211 0156
Karen Scott:         Amateur Radio                 0171 211 0157
Colin Richards:      RIS/RSGB Committee Chairman   0171 211 0485
Doug Raynes:         RIS Enforcement               0171 211 0463
Amateur radio:       General Enquiries             0171 211 0160
CB:                  General Enquiries             0171 211 0159
CB:                  Complaints about abuse        0171 211 0463
RIS:                 General Enquiries             0171 211 0464

RA 24hr Publications order number                  0171 211 0506

RA Switchboard:                                    0171 211 0211

RIS Baldock 24h                              01462 454547/456551

John Roberts:        SSL Chairman                  0117 925 8333
Rod Alexander:       SSL Managing Director         0117 925 8333
David Black:         SSL Director of Operations    0117 925 8333
Kevin Mitchell:      SSL Accounts Manager          0117 925 8333
Ann Hollaway:        SSL Manager Amateur radio     0117 925 8333

The RA Internal Telephone Directory is available free from the
                                                 ====
RA Library. It lists all RA staff and their grade, also listed
are all RA Local offices addresses/telephone numbers/Managers.




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Using Omni directional antennas for Pacsasts?
Date: 20 Mar 1996 22:02:46 -0800
Message-ID: <4iqre6$[e-mail]>
References: <4iqcue$[e-mail]>

I was wondering how well omni directional antennas would work with the
Pacsats? As they are low orbit and fairly line of sight it seems a
omni would work. Can someone enlighten me on this?

Thanks and 73!

Jeff
AB6MB



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Using Omni directional antennas for Pacsasts?
Date: 22 Mar 1996 12:42:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4iu77t$[e-mail]>
References: <4iqcue$[e-mail]> <4iqre6$[e-mail]>

Jeff Jones ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I was wondering how well omni directional antennas would work with the
: Pacsats? As they are low orbit and fairly line of sight it seems a
: omni would work. Can someone enlighten me on this?

: Thanks and 73!

: Jeff
: AB6MB

Jeff,
    Omni antennas will work on the pacsats, but not very effectivly.
The slower (1200 baud) satellites are not used much, so with omni's
you will have much better luck with these satellites. The 9600 baud
pacsats are very crowded and because of the congestion on the uplinks,
omni's are not very effective. Having been on the pacsats for the
last few years, I have seen many discussions of omni antennas, and
the general consensus seems to be they just don't cut the mustard.
I use a pair of crossed KLM yagi's, and still need an amplifier to
use the 9600 baud sats because of the congestion in this part of
the world (mainly from Japan). If you can find a satellite noboy else
is using, omni's will work fine, i.e., a pass that approaches Guam
from the S.E. has noone in the footprint but Guam, and then 5 watts
works great. As I said, if you are going to use omnis, I would suggest
you try LUSAT(Lu-19) and PACSAT(Ao-16). Good luck.

Jim, KH2D



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Phillip Gane)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: VE7BXX Speak to me ???
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:28:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4iq7ut$[e-mail]>

Hi Colin

Can you email me if you are reading this, as you have put an in
correct email address on your letter.

If anybody knows or can get intouch with VE7BXX in White Rock BC
could they ask him to get in touch with me

Many thanks Phillip

I just hope he takes this news group ?--
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                  Internet = [e-mail]
                  Packet   = GM4SUF @ GB7SUF.#76.GBR.EU




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:33 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Summary: Satellites
Keywords: power
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <4i4ur2$[e-mail]> <4i76me$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:19:33 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Zack Lau <[e-mail]> writes:
>Gary Coffman wrote:
>> Since the antennas spend most of their time looking up, tall towers
>> aren't mandatory. And antennas for UHF/SHF can certainly be smaller,
>> but not yet in the DBS 18 inch class for P3D. To take advantage of
>> really small antennas and low power, we're going to have to do what
>> the DBS people have done, go all digital. We already see the promise
>> of that with the microsats. Briefcase stations can be used to access
>> those satellites *right now*.
>
>The DBS 18 inch dish should do just fine for 2.4 GHz. Actually, with
>a good preamp it will even work for Oscar 13's experimental transponder.

I can copy it with a 1.5 meter dish and preamp, with a good enough SNR
to pass low rate information. An 18 inch dish would be, IMHO, pushing
toward the limit of usability, if not detectability, of the Oscar 13
signals.

>Back when it flew 2.4 GHz was real exotic territory.  These days you
>can buy a 2.4 GHz transceiver from Icom (the IC-970 with optional band
>module).
>
>Actually, what the DBS people have really done is to run high power.

50 watts for a broadcast quality digital *television* signal is not
what we'd generally call "high power", though for a satellite it is
high power. But that's about the same power used for C and Ku band
analog TVSATs, and I think that you'll be forced to agree that
you need much more than an 18 inch dish to successfully receive them.
The real difference offered by DBS is the fact that it is digital,
with the coding gains that can imply.

>We could do the same--a tiny quadrifilar helix will work just fine with
>100 watts.  A water cooled 2C39 easily does 100 watts on 1269
>MHz.  But, from a safety standpoint, lower power and a bigger antenna
>makes much more sense.

I'm not so sure that even P3D could house a water cooled 2C39 and
feed its power demand. It'd take over 300 watts of DC input to get
that 100 watt output (the heater alone draws 60 watts). Even P3D's
power budget would be exceeded. And water cooling doesn't buy that
much when there's no convection. Not only would you have to mechanically
pump the water through a radiator, the radiator would have to be just
that, an actual radiative cooler with no help from convective atmospheric
flows. I suspect it would be both a power bus and thermal control nightmare.

And if it were a shared analog transponder, each individual signal
would be much weaker than 100 watts. If there were 2 or more signals
in the passband, the power delivered to Earth per signal would be less
than from current C band analog TVSATs, so you're back to a 3 meter dish
again.

Remember, the power budget limit is in orbit, not on Earth. It
depends on the amount of solar panels and batteries the satellite
can carry. Those are fairly hard limits for amateur budget satellites,
IE we can't hope to loft nuclear reactor powered ROSATs like the
Soviets used to launch, or the huge solar arrays used by MIR. So we
need to get gain another way. Coherent digital modulations are about
the only way to beat the physical limitations on the satellite and
still allow small Earth stations.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: 25 Mar 1996 08:48:58 -0500
Message-ID: <4j688a$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
        Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>We need an exam, to insure as much as possible that the applicant
>knows enough not to be a hazard, and to remove the excuse "I didn't
>know" from rules violators, but we don't need a Phd level test in
>order to allow access to a learning laboratory where we hope over a
>lifetime to *gain* Phd expertise.

Okay, let's say for a second that I agree with you here. Why then:

        1. Do I hear questions about "how do I build a dipole" ?

        2. Why when a woman mentioned that her radio was "getting hot"
           and someone suggested she check her SWR she replied "you know
           I don't know anything about that stuff".

While perhaps your statement above may be true, you certainly must agree
that the existing testing system does not ensure that people have a
sufficient level of technical expertise.

Okay, granted that perhaps the two examples I mentioned are the exceptions
to the rules. But I can turn on my radio almost any day and hear the same
type of questions, even from some people who have been licensed for years.
This would tend to contradict your last statement regarding a lifetime
learning process.

I don't profess to know everything about electronics and RF, but at least
I have a copy of my ARRL Handbook around so when the time comes to build a
dipole, I can easily look up the formula that I once knew for my test and
have long since forgotten.


MD
--
--
--  "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam
--
--  If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:37 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j688a$[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:23:52 GMT

In article <4j688a$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (M
ichael P. Deignan) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>       Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>We need an exam, to insure as much as possible that the applicant
>>knows enough not to be a hazard, and to remove the excuse "I didn't
>>know" from rules violators, but we don't need a Phd level test in
>>order to allow access to a learning laboratory where we hope over a
>>lifetime to *gain* Phd expertise.
>
>Okay, let's say for a second that I agree with you here. Why then:
>
>       1. Do I hear questions about "how do I build a dipole" ?
>
>       2. Why when a woman mentioned that her radio was "getting hot"
>          and someone suggested she check her SWR she replied "you know
>          I don't know anything about that stuff".
>
>While perhaps your statement above may be true, you certainly must agree
>that the existing testing system does not ensure that people have a
>sufficient level of technical expertise.

Nor can any reasonable entry exam system meet that criteria 100%.
Surely you know people who got through school simply by answering
present every day, blindly following directions, turning the crank,
but not having the slightest clue what any of it *meant*, and no
curiosity to find out what it all meant.

It's no different here. We try to screen the wheat from the chaff,
but no screen is perfect, there is always some amount of chaff that
gets through, and if we aren't careful, some amount of wheat that
is lost. We have to choose our screens with care to achieve a reasonable
balance. IMHO we can tolerate some chaff, it's just filler and doesn't
do any real harm, but we can't afford to lose much of the wheat because
it has real value. So I'd tend to set the screens a bit looser rather
than tighter in order to capture as much wheat as I can.

>Okay, granted that perhaps the two examples I mentioned are the exceptions
>to the rules. But I can turn on my radio almost any day and hear the same
>type of questions, even from some people who have been licensed for years.
>This would tend to contradict your last statement regarding a lifetime
>learning process.

As I noted above, some can turn the crank, but they don't know why it
works, and they aren't curious enough to find out. The drive to learn,
the drive to know "why", is an internal drive. We can't impose it from
the outside, we can only cherish and feed it when we find it. There's
no test for it except observation post hoc.

>I don't profess to know everything about electronics and RF, but at least
>I have a copy of my ARRL Handbook around so when the time comes to build a
>dipole, I can easily look up the formula that I once knew for my test and
>have long since forgotten.

So having the question on the test served no lasting purpose did it?
Except maybe to make you aware that such a formula might exist. That's
one reason I've advocated an open (reference) book exam. It shows the
applicant knows how to *find out* what he needs to know when faced with
a task requiring that knowledge. That's of much greater lasting value
than regurgitating some numbers from turning the crank on a memorized
formula that will soon be forgotten.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dan Finn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Wake Up Call!
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 06:15:33 GMT
Message-ID: <4j43af$[e-mail]>
References: <4i2onb$6m3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) said:

(cut)

>Following Sturgeon's Law, we can only expect a small percentage of a
>group to be the ones pioneering and leading the pack.

Who wants to be led? Do you consider yourself to be a ham radio
Leader? Most amateurs I know are rather independent and do not require
or desire a technical or political leader.

>There's no really
>good a priori test to separate the wheat from the chaff

First you must define 'wheat' and 'chaff'. Presumably Coffman is wheat

and all beepers are suspect of being chaff.

> certainly not a
>beeping test.

Indeed.

>The best we can do is find out who has the creativity and
>imagination to explore post hoc. What we don't want to do is turn off
>potential members of the group via irrelevant hazing or by fostering
>a perception of the service as backward.

Translation: Treat degreed  electrical engineers with ultimate respect
or risk losing their participation in this hobby (service). If they do
not like code, then give in to their demands. Otherwise they will not
participate (gee whiz). Anyone who has enough real interest in Radio
will do what it takes to participate. A 13wpm requirement is really
going to cause a 'natural' to take the wrong turn on and miss out on
what he could have been? (Ham Radio leader or something?) Don't
worry....some natural who also is a beeper will gladly take his/her
place (or do you believe that 'natural radio talent' and beepers are
oymorons?)

>There are a few engineers who are hams, and who beep furiously, but
>when you pin them down, they say that they do it to get away from
>the complexities that they face in their jobs. In other words, it
>serves as mind pablum, like watching TV. That's not the sort of
>engineer we want

Alright Coffman, who is "we"...is "we" "you"?  Are you defining what
"we"want? I am  electrical engineer, beeper, a target of the
Coffman filter. Such is the way we are led by the the pioneer, the
leader of the pack, the 'wheat' (not the chaff).

>or need to open up the upper bands. We want people
>so totally enamored of technology that they can't get enough of it
>at work where their free rein is limited by the need to meet deadlines
>and project milestones.

Spare us...

>That sort of person isn't interested in the
>mundane, the old, the way grandpappy did it, sort of amateur radio
>found primarily among the beepers.

Somehow I'm still a hell of a lot more impressed by grandpappy beeper,
who brought us to where we are today, technically. Along comes you who
talks about what "can" be accomplished in the future...if only we
didn't beep. But no accomplishments yet.

>If I had my way, the code test free class would be Extra, the group
>who should know enough to realize beeping doesn't matter, and leave
>beeping to the lesser mortals who don't know any better.

Let Gary lead the way to immortailty.

>(How's that
>for inflamatory?)

Is it the best you can do?





From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:40 1996
From: David Moss <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,aus.electronics,aus.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics.repair
Subject: Wanted Traegar SSB5 service manual
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:49:43 +1100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello,

I'm looking for a circuit schematic or service manual for
a Traegar SSB5 'portable' HF SSB transceiver. This is a
product of the early 70's (based on the date codes of the
chips in it)

If anyone has any suggestions, please also copy me
on [e-mail], because I seem to lose frequent
news messages.

thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Hardwick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: weather fax software
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:59:01 GMT
Message-ID: <4jj0l9$[e-mail]>

Hi.  I am looking for software for receiving shortwave weather fax
pictures.  Can anyone tell me if there is any on the net

if you can help please send email to

[e-mail]


73s
tom
zl4trh



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:42 1996
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:21:15 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Isaac Kohn <ikohn@vertex.u
cls.uchicago.edu> writes:
>Michael J Wooding wrote:
>> In article <4idjm1$[e-mail]>, David Mark
>> <[e-mail]> writes
>> >What's happening is your radio is probably tuned to an FM station
>> >near the upper end of the band (around 107-108mhz) and you're
>> >probably under a flight path.  When a plane is nearby (there's
>> >that word again) and the pilot transmits on one of the lower
>> >airline frequencies, your radio's less than discriminating tuner
>> >picks it up.There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, las
t time I
>checked!  How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
>transmissions???

Remember that the poor selectivity is in the receiver front end,
allowing the image signal into the receiver. This doesn't have
anything to do with IF selectivity. Now as to how an FM receiver
can demodulate AM, if the receiver uses a discriminator, it will
happily demodulate AM too unless the signal is strong enough to
have it's amplitude variations stripped off by the limiter stage.
If the receiver uses a ratio detector, it won't have a limiter
because a ratio detector is theoretically insensitive to AM
variations. But if the ratio detector isn't perfectly balanced,
it will still demodulate the AM signal too. So either of the
popular types of FM detector can demodulate AM under the right
conditions. One of those conditions is likely to exist in a
cheaply made FM receiver using a whip antenna.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem
Date: 23 Mar 1996 00:26:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4ivgfj$[e-mail]>
References: <4imjob$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Jim Harvey)


In a previous article, [e-mail] (Dennis Nuetzel) says:

>
>>There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I
>>checked!  How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM
>>transmissions???
>
>   If close enough, it will.  I have picked up CB radio transmissions (Also
>AM) on a nearby FM reciever.
>

and on the telephone and on the VCR and on the Television and on the Stereo
and on the  clock radio.....

--
Jim Harvey - WB8NBS - 18538 Inkster - Redford, Mich.  48240    Amiga Person
    [e-mail]   |   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What is this thing??
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 96 19:00:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4jhcc2$[e-mail]>
References: <4jf3lu$[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Herb Dieben) wrote:

>Could it be an inductor? May be but I measure an infinite resistance
>across.A capacitor? What is this thing that kills my signaL?

Is there DC on either end?  A shorted turn or short to ground in the
second stage could cause the symptoms you're describing, even if the
unknown part is good.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Herb Dieben)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What is this thing??
Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:26:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4jf3lu$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Herb Dieben)

I am repairing an Astro Communications Labs frontend for VHF.Thisunit was
handcrafted in 1973 and a fine piece believe me.Except it does not work.

At the output of the plugin is an IF strip with the *last* 2 tuned circuits
coupled by what looks very much like an old 1\4 watt resistor.At one end of
this thing there is a good signal, at the other (which is the output) there
is nothing.This thing is banded as follows;left red, center purple right white
and far right silver.
Apart from the fact that one would not normally use resistive coupling between
two tuned circuits I think it is not a resistor because the color code would
result in a ridiculous value.Could it be an inductor?May be but I measure
an infinite resistance across.A capacitor?
What is this thing that kills my signaL?
Thanks,Herb.




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Byrnes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with my FT-11R?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:31:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6l95$[e-mail]>
References: <4j57ee$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Stanley Lalli ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on...

> I know a lot of you know what this could be(I mean what chip it is), I
> don't want to pay tons of money to have it fixed. I want to try to fix it
> myself.

You're dreaming Stanley!

The insides of that radio is all miniature surface mount components.
There's nothing in there you could possibly repair without *very*
advanced equipment.  Consider...

I opened mine last month with the intent of changing a resistor, fully
confident that the resources of Hewlett-Packard would be more than
enough (eg. anti-static tech station w/ microscope, micro-solder, etc.
and an engineer who does this kinda stuff for a living).

To our surprise, the standard size resistor in the radio was TWO or THREE
sizes *smaller* than the smallest resistor HP uses!  That size isn't even
approved for new designs because our auto-place machines can't place them!
The other components are of similar scale.

So unless you have resources at your command that exceed Hewlett-Packard's,
you're gonna need to have someone else repair it.


> Someone PLEASE, HEEAAALLLLLLLLPPPP     MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

YAESU USA
17210 Edwards Road
Cerritos, CA 90703 USA

[phone]


John
KB0UNC



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:47 1996
From: Stanley Lalli <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Whats wrong with my FT-11R?
Date: 24 Mar 1996 21:29:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4j57ee$[e-mail]>

Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on, memory, display,
beeps...all work. If I try to key, the signal meter goes up, but the
transmit light doesn't come on. There is NO signal output. The receiver
is out too. You can open the squelch and there is static, but it WILL NOT
receive any signals.

I know a lot of you know what this could be(I mean what chip it is), I
don't want to pay tons of money to have it fixed. I want to try to fix it
myself.

Someone PLEASE, HEEAAALLLLLLLLPPPP     MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

Lost, and radioless,

Stanley Lalli



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (mlmitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with my FT-11R?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 10:58:01 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j57ee$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Stanley Lalli <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on, memory, display,
>beeps...all work. If I try to key, the signal meter goes up, but the
>transmit light doesn't come on. There is NO signal output. The receiver
>is out too. You can open the squelch and there is static, but it WILL NOT
>receive any signals.
>
>I know a lot of you know what this could be(I mean what chip it is), I
>don't want to pay tons of money to have it fixed. I want to try to fix it
>myself.
>
>Someone PLEASE, HEEAAALLLLLLLLPPPP     MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
>
>Lost, and radioless,
>
>Stanley Lalli


Stanley,
It would be in your best interest and wallet, to send your FT11R back
to Yaesu and let them repair it. They have the equipment, parts and
knowledge to do this.
73
Bill
N0EVG


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (gudmundur)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Where are you?  N3GJW / WB3CIA / Tom
Date: 30 Mar 1996 03:17:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4ji948$[e-mail]>

Trying to locate Thomas W. Emig. N3GJW / WB3CIA. Formerly of
Dallastown Pa. but moved a few years back.  Tom, I still have the
chickenhawk book from Vietnam. Would like to get it back to you.
Don Cowey   KD3SH



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Where to download a interresting ham software
Date: 24 Mar 1996 11:41:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4j3cdj$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I would like to download my software (about CWMS) on a ftp.Host.
I try few time but the host denied the autorisation to download it.

Can someone can help me : give me a permissive ham host ?

TKS, Jean-Pierre, [e-mail]

73 QRO


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:50 1996
From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Who knows mail-servers with hot info on contests, awards, special callsigns? Tnx.
Date: 25 Mar 1996 15:17:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4j6ddj$30t$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

There is a good reflector called "cq-contest".

To subscribe, send an e-mail to:

[e-mail]

In the text of the message put the single word "SUBSCRIBE"
without the quotation marks.

--
--73, de Hans K0HB

--Ideas are like children.  There are none so wonderful
  as your own.


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tracker866)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: World Class Foxhunt coming to California
Date: 23 Mar 1996 18:10:31 -0500
Message-ID: <4j20d7$[e-mail]>
References: <4iq4it$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Tracker866)

VHF/UHF CONFERENCE FOXHUNT INCLUDES TEAM COMPETITION

In a European/Asian foxhunt, every person competes for medals as an
individual.  There are also prizes for the best aggregate score of
competitors from various districts and countries.  Similarly, there will
be team awards at the VHF/UHF Conference foxhunt in southern California on
May 5.  (See my previous message for the detailed hunt announcement.)

When you register at the Conference for the foxhunt, you may declare
yourself to be a member of a team representing your club, city, family,
etc.  Each team may have a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 members.  Each
entrant may be on only one team.  (Or he/she may choose to not be on any
team.)  If a club/group/city has more than five hunters, they must split
them up into more than one team.  For instance, if six Orange County RACES
members want to team up, they could form "RACES Red Team" and "RACES Blue
Team."

Remember, hunters are competing for cash prizes as a individuals.
Therefore, team members may not help one another on the course in any way.
 Any observed collaboration will result in disqualification, as it is in
the IARU foxhunting championships.

Age divisions apply only to individuals, not to teams.  A team may include
members in more than one age division.

Team awards will be determined by the best three scores of the team
members.  Just as in the individual competition, scoring is first by
number of foxes found and second by time.  For example, assume the results
for two teams are as follows:

       RED TEAM             |        BLUE TEAM
Member   Foxes   Time       |  Member   Foxes   Time
   A       6    1:55:34     |     X       6    1:35:54
   B       5    1:58:04     |     Y       5    1:57:14
   C       3    1:15:45     |     Z       6    1:51:50
   D       2    1:59:03     |
   E       1    0:55:33     |

The best three performances from each team are compared.  Red team's three
best hunters found 14 foxes in 309 minutes while Blue team found 17 foxes
in 324 minutes.  Blue team wins over Red because it found most foxes.  If
Red Team had also found 17 foxes in its 309 minutes total time, Red would
have won for being faster.

So, hunters from RACES, San Gabriel Valley, Santa Barbara, Fullerton club,
Downey Club, Catalina club and others, here's your challenge:  How many
teams will you be sending?

73 de Joe Moell K0OV
Internet:  [e-mail]
Compuserve:  75236.2165
Packet:  K0OV@WB6YMH.#SOCA.CA.USA



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Donald Theriault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB KENWOOD PROGRAMER
Date: 26 Mar 1996 20:31:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9k6f$[e-mail]>

LOOKING FOR KPT-20 OLDER KENWOOD PROGRAMER FOR THE 701/801/720/820
SERIES RADIOS

WILL PAY CASH

PLEASE E-MAIL ME OR CALL

[e-mail]
619-425-9659



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:53 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: XMLog Log/Packet freeware has moved.
Date: 25 Mar 1996 02:09:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4j4v8c$[e-mail]>

Disappointed with your commercial/shareware logging or
packet software for Windows?  Try XMLog, freeware that's
available on the Internet.  XMLog provides a flexible set
of coordinated logging and packet features.

If you're using a Web browser, start at Boston Amateur Radio
Club's home page (http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html), go
to the section "BARC FTP archives" and pick "FTP Archive",
then pick "Software Archives/PC Files".  Select the "logging"
directory and fetch xmlog123.zip

For ftp users, sign on to ftp.barc.org with the userid
of anonymous and a password of guest.  Move to the
pub3/hamradio/dos/logging directory and get xmlog123.zip

XMLog is now also available from ftp.funet.fi in Finland.
Sign on with a userid of anonymous and supply your e-mail
address as the password.  Move to the directory
pub/ham/hf-log and get xmlog123.zip

The archives can be busy at times, don't give up if you
can't sign on right away.  Let me know if you:
  -  want more info
  -  can't fetch the file
  -  want diskettes instead

Have fun...

Mike/WA3ECT
[e-mail]  (internet)
WA3ECT @ W1ET.NH           (packet)



From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:54 1996
From: Gary Stone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: XV1A ??
Date: 26 Mar 1996 23:40:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4j9v9d$[e-mail]>

I worked a (probably) slim on 20 yesterday and wondered if anyone has
more info.  The station was signing XV1A and claimed to be in Vietnam
with a QSL manager of UA0FM (whom I believe is also 3W5FM ?) From Texas,
the station was about 55 beaming toward Vietnam and about 15 - 20 db over
S-9 when beaming toward Russia!  This was at 0002 UTC on 3-26 UTC.  There
was a list taker (AC6BO) and this was on 14.203.

It sounds like one not to waste a QSL on, but anyone have more info?

73 de N5PHT,

Gary



--

       /\__/\        Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT)
        0  0         E-Mail:  [e-mail]
         @               or    [e-mail]
       (_/\_)        Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone
         ~~




From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:57 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: XV1A ??
Date: 27 Mar 1996 20:47:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4jc9hd$[e-mail]>
References: <4j9v9d$[e-mail]>

>   Gary Stone <[e-mail]> writes:
>  I worked a (probably) slim on 20 yesterday and wondered if anyone has
>  more info.  The station was signing XV1A and claimed to be in Vietnam
>  with a QSL manager of UA0FM (whom I believe is also 3W5FM ?) From Texas,
>  the station was about 55 beaming toward Vietnam and about 15 - 20 db over
>  S-9 when beaming toward Russia!  This was at 0002 UTC on 3-26 UTC.  There
>  was a list taker (AC6BO) and this was on 14.203.
>
>  It sounds like one not to waste a QSL on, but anyone have more info?
>
>  73 de N5PHT,
>
>  Gary
>
>
>
>  --
>
>         /\__/\        Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT)
>          0  0         E-Mail:  [e-mail]
>           @               or    [e-mail]
>         (_/\_)        Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone
>           ~~
>
>
>
>>>>

Howdy Gary...save the card and the $$$  definitely a slim.  In listening to th
e
converstaion several nights ago, he even admitted that it was great fun

but, have to hand it to peter, he can handle the pile-ups.  too bad
he doesn't get some real dx pedition going, he'd be ok

73,  steve

king of all dx and then some


From [e-mail] Sat Mar 30 14:39:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (David E. Queen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: yeasu ft-11 repair
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 07:49:46 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I have need of repairing my FT-11R due to a very stupid act on my
account. They are not water proof....


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:16 1996
From: [e-mail](LARRY PIKE )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Chgo Area Ham Classes - Nov thru Extra
Date: 26 Mar 1996 23:56:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4ja07j$[e-mail]>

        My idea is simply this --
ham radio classes see a lot of drop-outs
because the classes go on too darn long!
People have better things to do with their lives
than attend  6 to 12 weeks of ham radio classes.
I am looking for students and
 sponsors for one-day license workshops.
If you know anyone interested in getting their
Novice ticket or upgrading to Technician,
General, Advanced or Extra, please
have them call me. I will teach a one-day
 theory seminar & workshop for any
 license level -- Novice through Extra.
 I've taught ham radio to about 300 people
during the past 10 years from Novice
through Extra and always enjoy the excitement
in the faces in front of me.

        What do I need to make this happen?
I am looking for a club that wants to sponsor
the workshops. The sponsoring club will:
1) provide a suitable room for an all-day seminar
    and
2) get students lined up for the classes.

What will the club get in return for their effort?
Classes are a great source of  new members.
Classes can also be an income producer
if the club wants to charge for them.
Keep the money as a donation to the club
or let that money pay for a one-year club
membership for the new ham.
My services are free to the club and the students.


Please call me if....
* Your club or repeater group is
        interested in sponsoring a workshop
* You or someone you know is interested
         in a one-day Upgrade Workshop
* You know someone interested in a
        one-day Novice Workshop


        73 de WD9HCR
        Larry Pike
        [phone]
        [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (gudmundur)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: 27 Mar 1996 03:52:40 GMT
Message-ID: <4jae28$[e-mail]>
References: <4j1egi$[e-mail]>

In article <4j1egi$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Looking for typical Radio Shack stories to add to this thread.
>
>One of our local Radio Shack stores has had several good people who
>seemed to know what they were doing.  But in typical Radio Shack
>fashion managed to let them go and hire persons who seem to know
>nothing about electronics.  I guess at 4.75 per hour and 1 percent
>commission you can't knowledgeable persons.
>
>Usually when I HAVE to buy at the Shack, I bypass the salesman by
>saying "I know what I'm looking for!" and strictly use them for a
>cashier!
>
>WAKE UP TANDY!  Pay your persons a couple of dollars more an hour and
>employees will stay!
>
>
  How many times I have been in a radio shack and the customer says
"I need 20ufd at 25volts and all you have are 50 volt units. Can I
use them? Where upon Mr. shack replies-"No! it will ruin your
whatever"". I think I have helped more customers find correct
information in radio shack than the employees have. Hey R.S., Want
a good information manager? I am very expensive and worth it! You
got questions? I got information! If I don't have it, at least I
know how to find it!       73 KD3SH



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:18 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ITT Radio Handbook
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Fred McKenzie)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:21:50 -0500
References: <4j6ans$[e-mail]>

In article <4j6ans$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Lacroix Marc) wrote:
> I had a handbook in the past :
> Radio Engineer Handbook, published by ITT Corporation (in the 1970-75) ...

Marc-

I'm holding in my hand a copy of REFERENCE DATA FOR RADIO ENGINEERS, Fifth
Edition.  It was Copyright in 1968 by Howard W. Sams & Co., Inc., a
subsidiary of International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation.

I don't know if a newer edition gets a newer number or not.  This one has
Library of Congress Catalog Number:  43-14665.  It was checked out from
the Kennedy Space Center Library, which assigned it numbers TK6552, R332,
1968.  Perhaps these numbers mean something to a Librarian.

I can't find an ISBN number.  Maybe the ISBN system hadn't been
implemented in 1968.

I received an advertisement for a new edition recently, but didn't keep it.

73, Fred, K4DII


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: ARRL insurance
Date: 28 Mar 1996 01:44:39 -0500
Message-ID: <4jdcgn$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)

I had the insurance from time to time; three or four years, then off for a
couple, and then back on again. Last winter a water pipe froze and burst
inundating my radios. The tube stuff stood up fairly well, but my prize
pair of HRO-500 and matching HRO-600 got pretty much destroyed. The 500 is
still fixable, so I did not ask for replacement (or $), but the 600 is
REAL rare; I had it appraised; they said it was a total loss, and the
Wohlers Company made good for $2500.
(The pair, in one cabinet, had been insured at $3100, out of total insured
ham shack of about $11K).
No complaints here. They handled the claim professionally and rapidly once
the appraisal came in --that took 4 mos, but not their problem.
Go for it


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:03:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)


To: [e-mail]
Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING

G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur
 >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others,

Funny, when I entered the hobby, (I have been licensed since
1983) if you had an interest in RADIO per se, YOU found ham radio,
not the other way around.  My point is that there is no need for
marketing if the interest is there.  If it is not, there is no amount of
marketing you can do to win a person over.  In other words, the people
will come if they want to-ham radio is not a new "flavor" of ice
cream-it's a calling.
---
   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------

 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

              .....oooooOOOOOo         http://www.intac.com/~cono
      __,-----. ---+_________#_     The Roy Hobbs BBS [e-mail]
     |________| |__|___________}          Node 1: 201-641-7307
      ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\         Node 2: 201-641-3126



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chris Boone)
Date: 28 Mar 96 06:43:04
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: GE Master II queries
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

5*** Quoting Christopher K Greenhalgh to All dated 03-26-96 ***
>
> I got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console,
> interface,
> cable, external speaker, and mic...basically complete.
>
> I am wanting to put it on 9600 baud packet, and am trying to gather any
> and all information about it. IE; watts, amp draw, pin out of console
> and
> mic, where to get crystals, value, and just ANY other info you may
> would
> be appreciated. A schematic for this rig would probably bring tears to
> my eyes.    :)
>
> Thanks much, & take care.
>
Best thing to do is trade the rig for a GE MSTR EXEC II...the MSTR II doesnt
mod easily for 9600....the EXEC II does....(you have to FM the TX and the EXEC

II radios are easier to mod to direct FM...the MSTR IIs will screw up the freq

stability if you try to direct FM it).....

I may have a UHF MSTR EXEC II I would be willing to part with unless you can
find someone closer to you to trade with...

Chris
WB5ITT

[e-mail] <-new email address
--
|Fidonet:  Chris Boone 1:106/4267
|Internet: [e-mail]
|
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Byrnes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with my FT-11R?
Date: 28 Mar 1996 17:38:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4jeiq8$[e-mail]>
References: <4j57ee$[e-mail]> <4j6l95$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
> In article <4j6l95$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
> >Stanley Lalli ([e-mail]) wrote:
> >> Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on...
> >
> >You're dreaming Stanley!
> >
> >The insides of that radio is all miniature surface mount components.
> >There's nothing in there you could possibly repair without *very*
> >advanced equipment.  Consider...
> >
> I believe that's too extreme, John. I've been working on tiny SMD
> stuff like this for a few years now (Sony Broadcast's field cameras
> also use these smaller parts). I know that the parts look like grains
> of salt, but you can successfully replace them without overly elaborate
> tooling. ....

Gary,

I'm impressed.  Not only by your makeshift equipment and your boldness
in going in there, but by your eyesight!  You don't mention any sort of
magnifying glass.  Don't you go blind?

One more thing for people who may emulate your approach, I suggest taking
some anti-static precautions.

John


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with Indoor HF system
From: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:14:00 CST

Sorry I can not help...please send me info on how you solve this problem
when you do.
[e-mail]
AKA KE4UGV


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:24 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: If you don't like it!...(Was: @!#$,
From: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:22:00 CST

>John Q. Customer wrote:
>>                        <snip>
>> And John Q. Customer IS my real name, jackoff.
>Actually ...
>finger [e-mail]
>[atl.mindspring.com]
>Login name: jonejonz         In real life: Scott Hogg
>Directory: /u3/jonejonz                Shell: /usr/bin/false


Does this mean the guys real name is Scott Hogg?

If so......I think you got him this time! : )


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:25 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Maggiore Repeaters???
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:14:08
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j3u2a$[e-mail]>

In article <4j3u2a$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Williams - Debbie)
 writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Williams - Debbie)
>Subject: Maggiore Repeaters???
>Date: 24 Mar 1996 16:42:50 GMT

>My club is considering a Maggiore repeater.  We're interested in
>the opinions of those who have used Maggiore repeaters (especially
>in an unheated, un-air conditioned environment).  Please post your
>comments or send e-mail to [e-mail]

>Thanks for taking the time to share your views!
>73s
>Debbie, N5SKA

I tried to convinve the local group in Dade City Fl to go the Maggiore route
and we ended up with a piece of fecal matter from Yaesu.
Go with your heart.

John KD4GIK



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:25 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New web page
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:40:12 EDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>



http://www.moonstar.com/~/wa4pgm/welcome/

check it out, looking for ideas and more links, stories,
or anything else you might like to add.

73 Kyle



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:27 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest?
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:26:39 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j2jp7$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j5sav$[e-mail]>

Jim Kehler wrote:

> : I don't particularly like the image that this creates for amateur
> : radio, but it is unfortunately a reality. It shows that a mostly
> : male, mostly middle aged, mostly white group of asocial loners has
> : a rather large subset who like to look at dirty pictures. I'm not
> : sure that this should be hidden from potential amateurs. Perhaps the
> : young should be aware of the type of people with which they are
> : planning to associate.

There are many hams that fit the above description but there are also
many that are just old fat white and boring.

But I do not think X rated CDROMS ought to be banned from hamfests.
That is the closeest many hams will ever get to a naked female.



> poetic way to describe amateurs: 'mostly male, mostly middle aged,
> mostly white group of asocial loners'.  And all these years I have
> been told that ham radio consisted of the three basic groups:
> freaks, jerks, and weirdos........

Those groups are very well represented in ham radio.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:28 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest?
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:28:05 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Chuck Penson wrote:

> Good point. A couple of the local fests around here let kids under 16 in
> free. I'd like to see more of that. It's a good way to get kids
> interested.

There is NO way to get kids interested in ham radio.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:29 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 29 Mar 96 11:36:09 EST
References: <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>
Distribution: world

In article <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (W
B3U) writes:
> Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to
> call CQ on 75 meters.  They also said that a number of hams on the
> band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't
> know why.
> Can someone explain this to me?
> 73,
> Jack  WB3U
Very simple. All 75M freqs. are owned by nets and other groups that have not
turned the tuning knob on their rigs for the past 30 years.
73! Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Townley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ITT Radio Handbook
Date: 29 Mar 1996 12:10:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4jhcia$[e-mail]>
References: <4j6ans$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Fred McKenzie) wrote:
>In article <4j6ans$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Lacroix Marc)
wrote:
>> I had a handbook in the past :
>> Radio Engineer Handbook, published by ITT Corporation (in the 1970-75) ...
>
>Marc-
>
>I'm holding in my hand a copy of REFERENCE DATA FOR RADIO ENGINEERS, Fifth
>Edition.  It was Copyright in 1968 by Howard W. Sams & Co., Inc., a
>subsidiary of International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation.
>
>I don't know if a newer edition gets a newer number or not.  This one has
>Library of Congress Catalog Number:  43-14665.  It was checked out from
>the Kennedy Space Center Library, which assigned it numbers TK6552, R332,
>1968.  Perhaps these numbers mean something to a Librarian.
>
>I can't find an ISBN number.  Maybe the ISBN system hadn't been
>implemented in 1968.
>
>I received an advertisement for a new edition recently, but didn't keep it.
>
>73, Fred, K4DII


REFERENCE DATA FOR RADIO ENGINEERS has been continually updated; now it's (I
believe) to the 8th edition.  The name's a bit longer now, too--it contains
computers and other digitally-oriented words now.  Still published by Sams,
but I don't know where (or if) IT&T fits in anymore.

It's current print, any larger bookstore should be able to order it for you no

problem.  It's about $60 if I remember right.

Scott Townley
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Differences between HF and VHF (was: HF sucks)
Date: 29 Mar 1996 13:39:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4jgp6e$[e-mail]>

What we know as VHF FM is a generally localized form of
communications.  High-quality, relatively short-haul
communications between a number of people on a common
channel.  These people are often well-known to each
other - "I talk to them EVERY DAY!"  And I do, indeed,
have a group of people I talk to on my way to and from
work, and there is a good deal of camaraderie as we
know each other pretty well.  We're pretty "loose."

HF is very, very different.  If you ride on a bus, and
meet someone for the first time, do you say, "Hey, can
you believe what that flaming jerk &$*&T*@ did?!?"

I don't think so.  In your "clique" on the repeater,
everyone would know what you were talking about.  But
to come off like that to a total stranger?  No way!

The difference is that while one may get to know
people on VHF very quickly, getting to know them
via HF requires

1) being on same band
2) being on same frequency
3) being on at same time

i.e. having a schedule set up, like a 2-person sched
or a net.  I GUARANTEE you that the conversation
carried on during scheduled QSOs is nothing like what
people hear on HF most of the time.

So why are these things hard to find?

1) HF is a big place - many more "new contacts" than
    scheduled contacts.
2) If propagation is poor (and it does vary) there may
    be someone on each end but no way for them to talk.
3) They're not if you know where to listen.

Listen to any 80m NET where people know each other.
They're MUCH more interesting than 2m contacts.  And as
for illnesses, well, a lot of older hams have their
illnesses in common.  Something to talk about, I guess.
BTW, I have this occasional shooting pain in my left arm...

In conclusion:

Much of HF operation is done via CQ, which means meeting
a continuous stream of "new people."  What percentage
of the time that someone answers your "XXXXX Listening"
on a given repeater results in a reply from someone
you DON'T know?  Probably not even 40%, while on HF
it may be close to 90%, maybe more!
--
* Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19  QRV 80-10/6/2/440 *
*** VHF @ <25w, HF @ <5w *** Save a cake, pound BRASS instead ***
* 138 cfd with dipoles * QRP-L #147 QRP ARCI #9054 DXCC/WAS/WAC *
* 301-549-1022 h / 301-982-1015 w * 145.490-  147.225+ PL 156.7 *


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:35 1996
From: [e-mail](Glenn Sparks)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Date: 29 Mar 1996 15:24:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4jgvbd$[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]>

Actually I think Heathkit sold boatloads of the Monoband HF rigs, SSB
only, HW-12, HW-13, HW-14.  I have the 40 and 80, but the 20's are hard
to find.

In <4ja4ro$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Homebrew) writes:
>
>How many HF rigs do you people think the manufactures could sell
without
>CW on them?  Without filters?
>
>
>
>--
>- - + + +     + + + - -     Len
>



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:36 1996
From: [e-mail](Glenn Sparks)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest?
Date: 29 Mar 1996 15:29:23 GMT
Message-ID: <4jgvkj$[e-mail]>
References: <4j2jp7$[e-mail]> <4ja0r9$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jc4jp$[e-mail]>

In <4jc4jp$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(WB3U) writes:
>
>   [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:
>
>>As evidenced by the current problems on HF, neither Morse tests nor
>>technical tests are a cure for these problems.
>
>The fact that such problems exist does not support that assumption.
>In fact, just the opposite is probably true, as the problems have
>worsened with the weakening of code and technical testing.
>
>73,
>Jack  WB3U

I have seldom heard a Ham with a call sign issued in the last 5 years
behave this way, The most obnoxous have been Hams for 20+ years, I
don't think the problem is with the new guys.

KI5GY


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:37 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jens Goerke)
Subject: Re: Need email add for Rev George at GQRP
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jgoht$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:46:49 GMT

William J. Graham ([e-mail]) wrote:

> can someone provide the email add fro Rev George Dobbs
> of GQRP?

Me, too ;-)

I need his address as well (my last Sprat didn't arrive).

Have Fun,
        Jens, DB9LL
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:38 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLP013 Propagation de KT7H
Date: 29 Mar 1996 16:57:20 -0500
Message-ID: <$[e-mail]>


SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP013
ARLP013 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP34
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 13  ARLP013
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  March 29, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP013
ARLP013 Propagation de KT7H

Solar flux remains low.  Last week's average solar flux was up only
a couple of points from the previous week.  Geomagnetic conditions
have been unsettled, with several periods with a K index of four.
The worst day was March 21 when the A index was 29 and the K index
reached five.

Don't expect any big changes.  Recurrent coronal holes may cause
disturbances between April 6-9 and 16-21.  During this time expect
brief active to minor storm periods at middle latitudes and brief
active to major storm levels at higher latitudes.

The listing in last week's bulletin of sunspot numbers and solar
flux was correct, but the dates shown were from the previous week.
Below is the same data but with the corrected dates for March 14
through 20.

Sunspot Numbers for March 14 through 20 were 17, 15, 15, 12, 11, 11
and 0, with a mean of 11.6.  10.7 cm flux was 70.8, 70.4, 71, 70.6,
70.6, 69.9 and 69.3, with a mean of 70.4.

Sunspot Numbers for March 21 through 27 were 15, 21, 24, 17, 17, 32
and 29, with a mean of 22.1.  10.7 cm flux was 70.4, 73.8, 72.1,
71.2, 72.5, 71.9 and 71.8, with a mean of 72.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:39 1996
From: CrACKeD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Date: 29 Mar 1996 17:33:02 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


> "more modern modes, such as voice?"
>
> Huh?  I don't get it.  Phone QSO's on HF can be much more insipid
> and boring than CW QSOs.  And besides, when you run into a total
> stranger, do you express immediately your views on life?  If you
> talk to the same person 10 times on a repeater, that's familiarity.

Well, it is true that some voice QSO's are boring, but I'm not one of
those people who says "Hi, how's the weather" and then that's it.  I use
the voice bands (VHF/UHF) for more constructive things among people I
know and during special events.  Using a voice mode doesn't mean you
have to "immediately express your views on life" either.

> On HF, YOU rarely get to talk to the same person 10 times EVER unless
> you've pre-planned it.

What's your point?  HF bites?  I already knew that.

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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DANG! his FM25 doesn't work, what to do?
Date: 29 Mar 1996 18:03:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4jh8m3$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
David Stockton <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>    Strange, isn't it?
>
>    Despite massive crossposting, and clearly being noticed by a great
>many people, no-one seems to have leaped in to help the poor fellow.
>
>     Was it a wind-up?
>     Is there such a thing as an "FM25"? and if so, what is it?

The FM-25 is a synthesized FM broadcast transmitter sold in kit
form by Ramsey Electronics.  Very popular for the micropower and
pirate FM broadcasters.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kirk James Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile
Date: 29 Mar 1996 19:05:37 -0800
Message-ID: <4ji8e1$[e-mail]>
References: <lui-2103962251280001@192.0.2.1> <[e-mail]> <4j4gvp$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

After reading late in this thread, I thought I'd jump in with my two cents.

Ham rigs offer something the commercial rigs don't:  Easy programming.
When I'm traveling, I need to be able to punch in a repeater and use it.
I've got an Icom IC-2700H as my current mobile rig, and while I think
it's a piece of trash, it is convenient (I'd buy an Alinco if I had it to
do over again).

But...  I'm also a fan of commercial performance.  I've got a couple of
Syntor's stashed away that I'm planning to add the "left-coast" control
units to eventually.  Still, they're pretty big, and won't likely end up
in my car.  I'll use them as base units.

For mobiling around my county, I'm planning to purchase a couple of
Motorola MaxTrac 300's (or GM300's).  They're cheap ($500 new, less
used), synthesized, scan, have PL, etc.  They're also pretty small.  Once
I get some cash saved and mount these in my truck, the Icom will likely
remain off most of the time.  I hate it's intermod rejection (I call it
my paging receiver....doesn't matter what frequency I'm on, I can hear
pagers on most of them).

The MaxTracs are fairly easy to repair, and provide good performance.  I
don't notice intermod problems with them, and they're simple to
operate.

But still...I do need the frequency agility of a ham rig now and again.
Since I can't find a reasonable ham rig for performance, I'm stuck using
both.

I tend to avoid rock-bound rigs, since I change my mind too frequently to
buy crystals.  Also, being involved with public safety, I need a few more
channels than the averae ham.

I'm not sure this offers much of a solution to most (since it involves
high dollars having multiple radios), but it works for me.


--
 Kirk J. Smith, KD6RCT, EMT-P    |  Biological Sciences Dept, Microbiology
 [e-mail]    |  California Polytechnic State University
 http://www.calpoly.edu/~kjsmith |  San Luis Obispo, California, USA


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: 29 Mar 1996 19:09:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4jhci0$[e-mail]>
References: <4j1egi$[e-mail]> <4jae28$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

I remember back in the seventies I was in a Radio Shack store looking at
stereo speakers.  The salesman showed me a system that had a power amp in
each cabinet.  He told me with great emphasis that each of those cabinets
had over 10 thousand ohms.  Wow that's a lot of ohms for your money! ;-)

Jim KE6JPO



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (David Stock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ??
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 19:30:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4jhdmb$[e-mail]>
References: <4jeu7r$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (WB3U) wrote:

>Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to
>call CQ on 75 meters.  They also said that a number of hams on the
>band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't
>know why.

>Can someone explain this to me?

>73,
>Jack  WB3U
It is naturally better to listen first.  A CQ is wrong on CB and many
recent amateurs from the chicken band are afraid of CQ.  I think
it is very wrong for operators with little experience to criticize
others.  Courtesy is the name of the day.

Dave  VE3DTN



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:45 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARO's suck
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 21:31:19 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4j7r82$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >I must confess that at various times in my life I have toyed with
> >the idea of becomming an amateur radio operator.
>
> Well you are NOT a ham ... good. You are not good enough to pass the
> exams.

But I am a ham and the author is correct, we suck.
#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:45 1996
From: [e-mail](Glenn Sparks)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ??
Date: 29 Mar 1996 22:25:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4jho0v$[e-mail]>
References: <4jeu7r$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary
Coffman) writes:


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:47 1996
From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #157 (for air through 4/5/96)
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 96 22:57:58 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #157 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 5-Apr:
-
1.   NASA Shortens Atlantis Mission, SAREX Contacts Cancelled
2.   Amateur Claims TSS Experiment Not a Total Failure
3.   CBC, Canadian Government Save Radio Canada International
4.   AMSAT Phase 3-D Satellite Parts Delivered to Assembly Site
5.   ARRL Drops Senior Discounts on Foreign QST Subscriptions
6.   Hewlett-Packard Co-founder Dies in California at 83
7.   Special Report: Telesat Canada's Anik E-1 Satellite Fails
8.   Hubbard Suggests Combining Analog and Digital TV Signals
9.   Weekly Propagation Forecast with George Bowen, N2LQS
10.  "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #972 from Los Angeles
11.  FCC Institutes "Try Before You Study" Amateur Licenses
12.  Upcoming Special Event Stations
13.  "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
14.  Light Theory Debunked, Darksuckers Make More Sense
15.  "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
-
(FCC WARNING: Monday is April Fools' Day and prolonged exposure to
some of these news items may be hazardous to your health.)
-
Funding for the program's transmission and production expense was
provided this week by a grant from Dana Rodakis, AJ1R, of St.
Petersburg, Florida, where listeners can hear "This Week in
Amateur Radio" on the AJ1R repeater system on 51.84, 145.23,
147.285, 442.075, 443.625, and 443.95 MHz serving Florida's Central
Gulf Coast.
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard on the "Tech Talk Network" each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST)
on the Telesat Canada Anik E2 commercial communications satellite,
transponder 18 (9B vertical), 5.8 MHz wideband analog audio
subcarrier (4.06 GHz), located at 107.3 degrees west longitude in
equatorial geosynchronous orbit.  It's carried on VHF/UHF repeaters
throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.  Contact
your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if "This Week in
Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Satellite space and uplink services are provided by Skyvision,
Incorporated as a service to the amateur radio community.  Further
information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at 518/283-3665
(e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB, at 518/664-
6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach them @
WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Don Bruder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Any repeaters in SW GA carrying shuttle traffic?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 00:25:14 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


The subject says it all, I'd say...
But just in case it doesn't, I'm in Dougherty county Georgia, looking for
the frequency of any repeater(s) carrying space shuttle transmissions.

Any assistance appreciated.

Email replies are MUCH more likely to get to me, since this newsfeed is
flakier than a bowl of wheaties.

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|I eat my roadkill...__|_|____|__@|  @    | that's clear: I will choose |
+/.\/.\-----------+ /.\/.\=(__)/.\] \|/   + Free-will           -- Rush |
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (R. D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: 30 Mar 1996 00:59:39 -0500
Message-ID: <4jiikb$[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Edward Stafford  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>A.R. Duell wrote:
>snip
>>
>> AFAIK there's no practical in the Radio Amateur Exam in the UK. There is
>> (I think) in the novice test, but not for the full thing. IMHO this is
>> wrong....
>> If you think it is wrong why did you write it? Are you trying to say
>that you disagree? What are you doing at Cambridge? Are you making a
>delivery? Are there no longer any literacy requirements for entrance?

Mr. Stafford, I think that you're unfairly misjudging Mr. Duell; if
you were familiar with the many excellent postings of his to various
Usenet newsgroups, you'd not have posted the above reply.  We're most
fortunate to have people with his technical expertise here posting to
Usenet newsroups, who are very helpful to others.  Cambridge is most
fortunate to have him there.  In the future, please kindly reserve
your snide flames for those those who deserve them.

--
R. D. Davis  *  http://www.access.digex.net/~rdd    \Computer preservationist.

Home: [phone] * Eccentrics have more fun! :-)\Unwanted systems gladly
Unconventional Computer Consulting & PERQ Software,   \disassembled, removed
divs. of Transpower Industries, Inc. [phone]   \for free and preserved
.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:50 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: QRO Merchants
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:26:42 EST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <4jfo94$lgp$[e-mail]> Hans K0HB <71111.260
@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
>Subject: QRO Merchants
>Date: 29 Mar 1996 04:17:40 GMT

>In light of all the heat and smoke here lately about
>"QRO merchants" and "high power contesters", it was
>interesting to note that the results of a recent major
>ARRL contest show only 18% of the stations used high
>power (more than 150W). (Sample size = 3,032 entries.)

>7% ran less than 5W, and the remaining 75% ran somewhere
>between 5W and 150W (most probably 100W).

Hans makes a good point.  High power isn't necessarily as desirable as one
might think.

The latest QRP Quarterly arrived this week and among the QRP awards noted was
one earned by AA2U, who using 5 watts or less earned an EIGHT BAND DXCC with
the following totals:

   80M  107 countries
   40M  196 countries
   30M  215 countries
   20M  295 countries
   17M  254 countries
   15M  291 countries
   12M  226 countries
   10M  271 countries

There's also a column on "milliwatting" that discusses that part of the QRP
community that considers 5 watts as QRO.  Imagine carrying on a QSO at less
than a watt.  It's done all the time.

I've been a QRO type for years, but one of our QCWA members brought his QRP
logbook to the chapter meeting one time a while back and his success with an
Argonaut and a wire antenna impressed us all.  I was curious, so whn I came
home, I cut the power back as far as it would go (about 8 watts) and I was
amazed that using just my 40 meter dipole, I was getting out about as well as
I had been with 125 watts.  The signal reports weren't all that much different

either.  I got the bug and ordered a 2 watt 40 meter transmitter from Fair
Radio for $20 and it did about as well.  It's a blast!

There is a popular misconception that a big-buck Japanese transceiver is
necessary to operate HF, but in truth first-rate QRP transceivers with  high
performance receivers are available for $100-$300 and contrary to what some
folks might tell you, QRP is reliable and a lot of fun.

The catch is that operating CW will probably be necessary if all that great
success is to be achieved.  QRP SSB'ing is out there too, but the rigs are a
good bit more expensive and you probably won't do as well breaking into the
QRO pileups when you're going after that rare DX station.

73,
Tony Stalls, K4KYO



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (R. D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FCC radio amateur test questions
Date: 30 Mar 1996 01:36:36 -0500
Message-ID: <4jikpk$[e-mail]>

After digging out a Utica model 650-A that got years ago, but never
managed to get working yet, I've been contemplating taking the FCC
licensing test so as to be able to use it when I repair it.

It's been about 12 years since I've taken RF electronics courses,
looked over the FCC test course materials, etc., and I'm wondering how
much has changed since then.  Hopefully the test still deals with
vacuum tube circuitry (I'm guessing that there's still a lot of
equipment out there which is using tubes).

Should looking over my notes from back then, and learning Morse Code,
be sufficient to at least get a passing score?  From what I gather by
reading messages in this newsgroup, there's more than one type of FCC
test to take - how do the tests differ?

Thanks very much in advance for any information that anyone can
provide about this!

--
R. D. Davis  *  http://www.access.digex.net/~rdd    \Computer preservationist.

Home: [phone] * Eccentrics have more fun! :-)\Unwanted systems gladly
Unconventional Computer Consulting & PERQ Software,   \disassembled, removed
divs. of Transpower Industries, Inc. [phone]   \for free and preserved
.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: CODE VS NO_CODE ......SOL
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 05:24:27 GMT
Message-ID: <4jigv0$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4jc41m$[e-mail]> <4jcslq$[e-mail]> <4jdj1s$[e-mail]> <4jhqsi$[e-mail]>

 [e-mail] (Jeff Jones) wrote:

>Interesting to note that 2 meters has no CW requirement and lot's of
>problems. 20 meters has a CW requirement and few problems to speak
>of.
>I think I seen a pattern here.

And even 75 meters, the whipping boy of the no-code crowd, is nice and
civilized in the CW segment.  ;)

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Cheated by MARTIN DURHAM WT1S
Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:19:23 -0500
Message-ID: <4jjccr$[e-mail]>
References: <4jeodg$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Radiomatt)

Barry is not disabled.
Durham is!
Barry seems to live a decent life.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:53:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4jispf$[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]>

Nathan Ryan Gingras ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : worked my share of HF, and thus I have not upgraded.


All y'all seem to think I have been operating illegaly... (Natural
assumption due to my lowly no-code status) But, I have three words for you:

Third Party Operation.

I belong to a ham club at the skUle.

Nate.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARO's suck
Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:59:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4jit5i$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4j8bg3$[e-mail]>

Jim Kehler ([e-mail]) wrote:

:
: Dear Clueless,
:      You should toy with the idea of becoming a human being. Go
: back under your rock.......
:
:
Once again, you managed to further prove Mr. Clueless's point!
(and mine, for that matter.)


nate.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:57 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Mac Ham Users Group
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:09:01 GMT


"Macnet Roster" (ver. 739) has just been updated and is now a stand-alone
application! The version number = the number of hams using Macs.

"Macnet Roster" lists:

    o CALL SIGN @ HOME PBBS
    o FULL NAME
    o ADDRESS
    o CITY, STATE, ZIP
    o INTERNET ADDRESS
    o MACS USED
    o RADIOS USED
    o SOFTWARE USED
    o PASSIONS
    o COMMENTS

of every known amateur radio operator in the world that uses a Mac computer.

You can use "Macnet Roster" to find other Mac users that you can then
communicate with directly. Compare notes on software, applications, ideas,
hints and kinks, and make new ham friends that use the same computer you do.
(You already know how cool you are - imagine accessing "the rest of us"!)

      If you'd like the latest "Macnet Roster":

    Send me a formatted disk in a self addressed and stamped disk mailer
    that is in a large envelope clearly marked "ROSTER".

Or connect to my home page via the WWW

http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v

Put YOUR INFO (via EMAIL or disk using TEACH TEXT) if you'd like to be include
d
in the "Macnet Roster" or send an update to your stats to me via pkt or email
anytime.


                 John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| e-mail: [e-mail]
             144 Pepperidge Dr |_|   |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
     Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| wireless: [e-mail]
      Voice Mail: 603-533-3472 | | | | | skytel page: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: G4NJH Pages
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:36:03 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Just a reminder that these pages have recently been updated.

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

 If you have a particular interest that is not covered, how about
writing for them yourself and I will include it, with proper credits
etc?

73 de
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:09:59 1996
From: "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is my tech plus study guide still effective?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:09:06 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jfkc5$[e-mail]>

CrACKeD wrote:
>
> I have a study guide from Radio Shack for the Technician Plus License
> which is dated effective July 1, 1990.  Can I still use this book to
> study for the current Technicain Plus exam?

Check the cover.  It states when it is good through.

--
Steve Sampson, N5OWK
mailto:[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:00 1996
From: gareth alun evans <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 10:52:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4iossi$[e-mail]> <4ip1mv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jbq76$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4jbq76$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "John Kolb" writes:

> : When is a gate NOT a gate?
>
> When it's AJAR.

I thought that a Jar was an old unit of capacitance.

--
73 de G4SDW Gareth Evans


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:01 1996
From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: March Internet Six News
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 11:13:40 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jhgtl$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4jhgtl$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Geoff Brown" writes:

> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >                         "INTERNET SIX NEWS"
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------

This is very interesting material, and for me well worth archiving.  My
thanks to Geoff for his work.

Could someone explain to me the meaning of:

           Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've also received copies of this same newsletter from a couple of
different mail reflector lists, but everywhere I read it, the quotes are
there also.  Is this same newsletter available from anywhere with plain
text and no >'s?

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (David Feustel)
Subject: Commercial SW Transmit License?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:54:12 GMT

How does one apply for a commercial (as opposed to amateur) shortwave
transmit license?

What frequencies are available to anyone with such a license?

How much does it cost?
--
[e-mail]
Dave Feustel N9MYI      For PGP Public Key, finger [e-mail]
Fort Wayne, IN          Or else access http://www.mixi.net/~feustel/
219-483-1857


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:02 1996
From: Robert Newman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL info for S92SS,P49V and J37BC
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 14:11:27 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Im needing qsl info for S92SS, P49V and J37BC.
Any help would be MOST appreciated.

Robert/WB4LLP


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:03 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: QRO Merchants
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:19:45 EST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>The latest QRP Quarterly arrived this week and among the QRP awards noted
was >>one earned by AA2U, who using 5 watts or less earned an EIGHT BAND DXCC
with >>the following totals:
>>
>>   80M  107 countries
>>   40M  196 countries
>>   30M  215 countries
>>   20M  295 countries
>>   17M  254 countries
>>   15M  291 countries
>>   12M  226 countries
>>   10M  271 countries
>>
>>There's also a column on "milliwatting" that discusses that part of the QRP
>>community that considers 5 watts as QRO.  Imagine carrying on a QSO at less
>>than a watt.  It's done all the time.

>Yeah, but much of the credit for that belongs at the other end. It takes
>no special or different skill to key a milliwatt than it does to key a
>kilowatt. The skill is at the other end trying to dig that weak signal
>out of the crowd, even when the station at the other end is running a
>kilowatt and making *your* job easy. IMHO the awards and credit should
>go to the guys working the milliwatters, not to the guys running milliwatts.

"Yeah, but's" aside, the point was that this is quite an accomplishment and
the Amateur community (particularly newcomers) shouldn't be jaded by all the
hype for the bells-and-whistles Japanese rigs and the myth that high power
(even 100 watts) is required for success on the air.  I don't want to get into

a debate over this, but if a QRP station makes it through the QRO pileup,
especially to QSO with relatively rare DX, it takes a bit more skill than
switching on the quad-4CX10,000's.

73,
Tony Stalls, K4KYO
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:05 1996
From: [e-mail](Tim Hynde ka8ddz qrp/Rochester, MI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
Date: 30 Mar 1996 14:22:19 GMT
Message-ID: <4jjg2r$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER
)
writes:
>
>
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING
>
>G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an
amateur
> >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many
others,
>
>Funny, when I entered the hobby, (I have been licensed since
>1983) if you had an interest in RADIO per se, YOU found ham radio,
>not the other way around.  My point is that there is no need for
>marketing if the interest is there.  If it is not, there is no amount
of
>marketing you can do to win a person over.  In other words, the people
>will come if they want to-ham radio is not a new "flavor" of ice
>cream-it's a calling.
>---
>   OLX 1.53   -------------->    73, de NK2U    <----------------


Right on! I got into radio because I had an interest in short wave and
communications, not because someone "sold" it to me. Why are so many
pre-occupied with marketing our hobby? Are they having trouble drumming
up a QSO on 40m?

Tim, ka8ddz


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:06 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: QRO Merchants
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:42:53 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>In article <4jfo94$lgp$[e-mail]> Hans K0HB <71111.26
[e-mail]> writes:
>>From: Hans K0HB <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: QRO Merchants
>>Date: 29 Mar 1996 04:17:40 GMT
>
>>In light of all the heat and smoke here lately about
>>"QRO merchants" and "high power contesters", it was
>>interesting to note that the results of a recent major
>>ARRL contest show only 18% of the stations used high
>>power (more than 150W). (Sample size = 3,032 entries.)
>
>>7% ran less than 5W, and the remaining 75% ran somewhere
>>between 5W and 150W (most probably 100W).
>
>Hans makes a good point.  High power isn't necessarily as desirable as one
>might think.

True. When the FCC conducted their recent field tests, they found that
most amateurs could reduce their power by 10 db or more and still carry
on their contacts with little noticable degradation. Though of course
there are notable exceptions to that.

>The latest QRP Quarterly arrived this week and among the QRP awards noted was

>one earned by AA2U, who using 5 watts or less earned an EIGHT BAND DXCC with
>the following totals:
>
>   80M  107 countries
>   40M  196 countries
>   30M  215 countries
>   20M  295 countries
>   17M  254 countries
>   15M  291 countries
>   12M  226 countries
>   10M  271 countries
>
>There's also a column on "milliwatting" that discusses that part of the QRP
>community that considers 5 watts as QRO.  Imagine carrying on a QSO at less
>than a watt.  It's done all the time.

Yeah, but much of the credit for that belongs at the other end. It takes
no special or different skill to key a milliwatt than it does to key a
kilowatt. The skill is at the other end trying to dig that weak signal
out of the crowd, even when the station at the other end is running a
kilowatt and making *your* job easy. IMHO the awards and credit should
go to the guys working the milliwatters, not to the guys running milliwatts.

In that regard I really like things like the AMSAT ZRO tests. They give
the credit where it belongs, to those stations able to dig out the very
weakest signals, and not to the guys generating the very weakest signals.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:07 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Terry Simonds <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Licence renewal
To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:59:19 GMT

Contact ARRL for a 610. Fill it in where it asks for address change.

73--Terry/WB4FXD



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:08 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Terry Simonds <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I moved...HELP!
To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:11:35 GMT

Get a form 610, change your address. You can keep ur old call...

73--Terry/WB4FXD



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:10 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: FCC radio amateur test questions
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4jikpk$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:13:17 GMT

In article <4jikpk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (R. D. Davis)
writes:
>After digging out a Utica model 650-A that got years ago, but never
>managed to get working yet, I've been contemplating taking the FCC
>licensing test so as to be able to use it when I repair it.
>
>It's been about 12 years since I've taken RF electronics courses,
>looked over the FCC test course materials, etc., and I'm wondering how
>much has changed since then.  Hopefully the test still deals with
>vacuum tube circuitry (I'm guessing that there's still a lot of
>equipment out there which is using tubes).

There isn't much about vacuum tubes on current tests, but some of
your knowledge about tubes will translate fairly well to questions
about FETs. Bipolar current driven circuits, digital logic, PLLs,
DDS, and the like may confuse you a bit however.

>Should looking over my notes from back then, and learning Morse Code,
>be sufficient to at least get a passing score?  From what I gather by
>reading messages in this newsgroup, there's more than one type of FCC
>test to take - how do the tests differ?

Get the new study guides. Nearly half of the exam is about
regulations, and those have changed significantly. Most of the
technical questions don't focus on individual active circuits.
Most deal with systemic responses which require a different level
of knowledge. Much of what you know will apply, but some new skills
are needed too.

The default entry license is now Tech (everything above 30 MHz),
which requires no Morse speed testing, so you can get an amateur
license without wetware conditioning. But for HF operation you
still need to pass a code speed test (for now). There are now
5 levels of exams for HF access, ranging from the old Novice
through Tech+, General, Advanced, and Extra. The first two require
a 5 WPM Morse speed test, the middle two require a 13 WPM Morse
speed test, and the latter requires a 20 WPM Morse speed test.

HF licensing and sub-banding is all rather baroque, but what you
need to know is that Advanced gives the most privileges for the
effort expended. Novice and Tech+ give just a tiny taste of HF,
General gives more (and may be sufficient for your needs), and
Extra doesn't really grant much in the way of extra privileges
above Advanced.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alfred J. Boetcher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile
Date: 30 Mar 96 16:10:48 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

>>In article <lui-2103962251280001@192.0.2.1> [e-mail] (Stephen Lui)
writes:
>[snip]
>>>I like all of the features of my HT and I probably have to buy something
>>>like a Yaesu FT-8500 ($680) to get comparable features (alphanumerics are
>>>high on my priority list). I like the ICOM IC-2000H ($300), but it is only
>>>a 2M radio.
>>

Gary Coffman responds:
>>Ouch. Yes, if bells and whistles are more important than solid
>>communications capabilities, you're going to have to spend a ton
>>on a mobile rig. But if you're more interested in good communications
>>performance, there are alternatives which will work much better than
>>a HT and an amp, while not costing more than the combination of a
>>HT and an amp. The Yaesu FT-8500 is actually a pretty good ham rig,
>>despite the bells and whistles, but a Motorola Mitrek would be better,
>>and cost less than $100 (or a MIcor for $50, or a GE Mastr II for $75).
>>With the change, you could also buy a scanner if you just have to have
that capability.>

"C. Wheeler" <[e-mail]> responds:
>C'mon Gary!  The suggestions you have given here are 180 degrees from what
>Stephen is looking for.  You think you're helping?

Gary Coffman then re-responds:
:Perhaps, if they make him think about what he really needs.

Gary,
I understood the point you were making about features vs good communications.
Unfortunately, the person who started the original post probably didn't.
Therefor, I have to agree with C. Wheeler. Your suggestions were poor at
best and mis-information at worst. You have a wealth of information to share.
The trick is knowing where and when to share it.

73
Fred B
WU9R


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:13 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.amtenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Terry Simonds <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Shunt Feed Crank-up?
To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jh867$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:14:10 GMT

Kevin--I have often wondered the same thing! I would like to excite my
Hy-Gain 52SS crankup on 40m, but feel the continuity between sections
would be a definite problem. I guess there's one way to find out: just do
it!  <:)

Let me know what happened. I think low-power (<100W) would be in order at
the outset!

73  gl  Terry/WB4FXD



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]> <4jfjv2$[e-mail]> <4jh8kj$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:21:05 GMT

In article <4jh8kj$[e-mail]>,
Edward J. March Jr. <[e-mail]> wrote:
>CrACKeD ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: : : Hey, all those no-code HAMS who complain about not getting on HF are no
t
>: : : missing anything! Why would anyone want to be on HF? The conversations
>: : : are always empty & meaningless.
>
>: Bravo.  I am also a no-code tech and my views are very similar.  I never
>: have witnessed a HF QSO which contained anything more exciting than my
>: cat could tell me.  I guess some hams get kicks off that sort of
>: operating, why I'll never know.  I prefer more modern modes of
>: communication, such as voice.  Computer aided modes and satellite
>: communications are much more interesting as well.
>
>       Funny I thinkthe same about 2 meters ... as soon as you use
>       a repeater a group comes and squeez's you out ! Most of the
>       best technical talks have been on HF with Advanced's and Extras
>       Im not a DX'er or a Contester, I perfer rag chewing and talking
>       about home brewing etc.... but this day and age its all computers
>       and digital junk and every one is an appliance operator,
>       I too am caught in the trap - writing software all day!
>       My friend once said Ham radio would be more intresting if
>       there were no commercial radios only home brew ones -- I agree!
>       BTW computer were more fun before Microsoft came in, back when
>       8080's and Z-80 and CP/M and assembly language hacking ...
>       when's the lasttime you built a linear amp using a 3-500Z ?
>       I see HF as a better pool of people to talk to -- you have a
>       wider sample across the country - where as VHF is ilmited to
>       50 miles at best... its just probability.
>
>       Ed
>//---------------------------------------------------------------------
>// Edward March Jr. ** Mt. Prospect, IL **>http://www.cl.ais.net/emarch
>//---------------------------------------------------------------------

Along with advanced computers and "appliance" hi-tech radios, the
population has changed as well. I don't think your "wider sample
across the country" holds water in todays world. People don't live
in one spot all their life, as they did 30 years ago.

In the two cities I've lived in (Denver,Dallas) seems most people
are not natives, but from somewhere else. On VHF I've talked to
people from all over the country, even one Russian on visiting USA.

Now if you had mentioned HF as having a better pool of people to talk to
around the world (AKA diverse) -- you'd have a point.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:17 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Terry Simonds <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:33:16 GMT

Gee, Nate. What HF band were you listening to? One interesting reason to
upgrade to HF is to meet people you probably never would have the
opportunity to otherwise meet.

I remember the time on RTTY several years back when I carried on a QSO
for over an hour with a chap in France. He lived in a castle (he sent pix
of it!) and was recently retired from a company that made cognac. We
discussed the finer points of making cognac and how he liked living in
a drafty old stone pile. How many local contacts would result in that
conversation?

Then there was the op living on the east coast of Africa. He told me that
he was running on emergency power into a wire strung in the palm trees in
the middle of a typhoon. After about ten minutes he suddenly disappeared
in mid-sentence. I of course feared the worst until some months later a
letter (not a card) arrived explaining what had happened. He was fine,
but his house, antenna, and radios were a shambles. Ever heard that on
2m?

One of our best friends was a G4 I met on 20m one afternoon back in the
mid-80's. He became a silent key several years ago, but before he died we
visited him and his wife in the UK and they have been here several times.
Just last summer we spent several days with his widow over there. But,
then, of course, you could have hopped in the car to visit a local
contact.

I'm not flaming you, Nate. Just don't write HF off as a lost cause.
Listen, listen, and then listen some more. There's a lot more out there
than "599-QRZ?"

73--Terry/WB4FXD



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:18 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jack M Twilley)
Subject: Old issues of 73 & Ham radio?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:55:37 GMT

How do I get old issues of 73 Magazine and Ham Radio?

The Boston librarians are having trouble finding them from 1986.

Addresses and phone numbers of publishers would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks!

Jack.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ICOM 765 MODS
Date: 30 Mar 1996 17:15:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4jjq7p$[e-mail]>
References: <4jhlvl$[e-mail]>

IC-736 Mod
-----------
1. Remove power + ant.
2. Remove screws + bottom cover.
3. Locate and CUT diode D53 OR D54
   (Try one, then the other - NOT BOTH!!!)

Note:
It is located on the "L" shaped board mounted
vertically positiond just above the "LOCK" switch.

4. Reassemble the radio.
5. Reset CPU (Hold {M-CLEAR} + power ON.

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:20 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 17:29:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4jjjum$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:



>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
>#================#=====================================================#
>| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
>#======================================================================#

>Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
>bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


Ya gotta love this guys sense of humor.  I betcha he thinks Murphy
Brown is funny too.  And mebbe Rozanne has a good voice!

Hi Bret  {;-)





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:21 1996
From: CrACKeD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Date: 30 Mar 1996 18:12:01 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]> <4jfjv2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>


> Nobody said anything about CW I am talking about SSB here. The
> pronunciation is fine gracias.

But the pitch isn't quite normal. |-)  Well, I'm referring to CW modes
anyway...

> You may be able to but most of the complainers can't, they cry about
> the CW requirement. Although I enjoy CW I agree that it is totally
> unneeded. I would not mind at all if the requirement for CW were
> dropped as part of the requirements to get on HF. My contention is
> that there is a lot to be found on HF.

Well, why would anyone cry about the CW requirement if they felt it is
totally unneeded?  That doesn't seem to logical.  If they don't think
it's needed, then why not just get a tech ticket?  If they don't want to
code, they don't need the privledges a higher class license gives them.
Well, SSB perhaps, eh?

   _  ____________.--------.
   \`'  __________|________|
   /   [_(__]
  |    |       E-Mail: [e-mail]
 .'   .'       Web Site: http://www.primenet.com/~cracked
 |____|        FTP Site: ftp.primenet.com/users/c/cracked



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Thanks for the 8 inch floppy help everyone.
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 18:17:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4jju8g$[e-mail]>
References: <4j3gn6$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

   Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>How many times do I have to read messages from hams that send a
>"Thank You" addressed to ALL. When one seeks help and someone takes
the time to respond . . .

How ironic that you, of all people, would accuse another person of bad
manners.  Have you ever thought about using your time and knowledge of
electronics to help some of the newcomers instead?

Stop indulging in this self-gratification and lend a hand.  We could
all use the help.

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:23 1996
From: [e-mail]  (KF2TI - Steve)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Thanks for the 8 inch floppy help everyone.
Date: 30 Mar 1996 19:06:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4jk0o5$[e-mail]>
References: <4jju8g$[e-mail]>

>   [e-mail] (WB3U) writes:
>     Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>  >How many times do I have to read messages from hams that send a
>  >"Thank You" addressed to ALL. When one seeks help and someone takes
>  the time to respond . . .
>
>  How ironic that you, of all people, would accuse another person of bad
>  manners.  Have you ever thought about using your time and knowledge of
>  electronics to help some of the newcomers instead?
>
>  Stop indulging in this self-gratification and lend a hand.  We could
>  all use the help.
>
>  73,
>  Jack  WB3U
>
>>>>
 forget it jack, burt is a teacher and therefore is helping others.   remember
 those who can do, those who can't
teach

steve
no code or know code  only your hairdresser nose four sure


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:24 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: The real Ham Fox
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:24:23 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


REPORT ON THE MONTHLY MELBOURNE FOX HUNT - MARCH 1996

The March hunt was held on the evening of the 22nd in mild conditions.
This was one week later than scheduled, as many of our teams had been
involved in communications for the Rally of Melbourne, or the National
Field Day on the previous weekend.

Our fox for the night was Roanne 35-25-35, who gathered together about thirty
hounds comprising eight teams.  One notable omission was the team of
your writer, the members of which arrived at their driver's house only
to find that he'd forgotten all about the hunt and gone out with his
wife for the evening (what a stupid man when he could have been with
some old white fat smelly hams).  In the spirit of Melbourne Fox
Hunting, these forgotten hounds joined other teams for the night.

All hounds were hunting on the 2m band for the evening.

The first event led the pack to the top of a GO GO bar in
Mulgrave.  Most teams were untroubled but it got a rise out of some.


Our fox then stopped outside the Penthouse in Wantirna
South.  Many hounds found themselves separated from the fox by a deep
crevice, so resorted to guiding other members of their teams in on the
liaison frequency.  VK3WWW won this event clearly.

The teams next travelled to locate a fox at the end of a nudist beach near
Ferntree Gully.  VK3BLN took this event narrowly from VK3VT, with the
rest of the field a long way back. He was fit to be tied.

The fox next located herself on a Corvette that must be amongst
the steepest roads in metropolitan Melbourne.  VK3BLN took his second
notch of the night, just ahead of who VK3TKQ who CAME in second.

A bathouse was the fox's next hiding place.  VK3TKQ was a narrow
winner, this time ahead of VK3YQN and VK3TLE who were eaten alive by the
fox.

The hounds had a special treat after finding the next fox at Johns Hill
Reserve in Menzies Creek.  The Hyakutake Comet was very clearly visible
in the North-East, with all hounds taking some time to view the comet
from this excellent lookout while the fox stood in a scant bathing suit nearby
.

Our hounds tracked the fox to The Strip for our final event, with VK3YQN
winning narrowly from VK3GMZ.

Supper was held nearby where the fox tallied and announced the scores.
Clear winners for the night were members of the VK3YQN team, with
newcomers VK3TLE in second place and VK3WWW in third.  Close examination
of the scores showed that all teams had managed either a first place or
a very close second place at some stage during the night. However the
nut that stayed home with his wife scored the most.

The April hunt will be held on the evening of the 19th, with the hounds
to gather in the Northern car park of Clayton Railway Station for a
departure at 8:15 sharp.  Supper will be held in Dingley Village.




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:25 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Oh ham radio is better than sex?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:25:22 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Date:         Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:12:40 -0500
From:         Robin Arnaud <[e-mail]>

One reason, I admit, is that I've simply lost interest in ham radio.  I've
listened for years to long drawn-out conversations on HF between folks who
have very little to say except to talk about their radios, their antennas,
their feedlines, the skip conditions, that sorta stuff.  I've always found
that wearisome and strange, since I don't use my telephone that way.  Call
someone on the phone and spend an hour or so talking about the telephone:

"Hi, Stephanie, this is Robin!  How's this telephone sound?  It's an AT&T.  I
just added a  bunch of special modifications to it... so how's *your*
telephone doing?  REally?  Cool!  I can't wait for spring to come back so I
can watch the birds gathering on the telephone lines outside again.  Oh, but
those deed restrictions in your neighborhood... cables have to be buried,
huh?  That's a shame.  Hey, did y'hear that?  Oh, well, it sounded sorta like
an echo for a split second.  Better take this phone apart again and check
...it..."  etc etc etc ad nauseum.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:26 1996
From: pete m fulton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: 30 Mar 1996 19:42:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4jk2r4$[e-mail]>
References: <4j1egi$[e-mail]> <4jae28$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jhci0$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

hello,i have questions



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:27 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]> <4jfjv2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:29:04 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>,
Gilbert Baron <[e-mail]> wrote:
>CrACKeD <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> The only in depth conversations I have ever had on HF were with people
>>>>> within 20 miles. You could use 2 meter, or 440 for that, and spend less
>>>>> on gear! What is the point of yelling CQ CQ CQ (or ponding CQ CQ CQ) jus
t
>>>>> to get a stupid qsl card?
>>>>> As far as the three items listed above,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my thoughts. No-coders, you really aren't missing much, so if you
>>>>> can't learn code for whatever reason, don't sweat it! You can get better

>>>>> looking postcards at the corner drugstore, and you can have better
>>>>> conversations with local trees, and other vegitation.
>>>>>
>
>>>Bravo.  I am also a no-code tech and my views are very similar.  I never
>>>have witnessed a HF QSO which contained anything more exciting than my
>>>cat could tell me.  I guess some hams get kicks off that sort of
>>>operating, why I'll never know.  I prefer more modern modes of
>>>communication, such as voice.  Computer aided modes and satellite
>>>communications are much more interesting as well.
>>>
>
>None of you have tried very hard. I have used HF a lot to practice my
>Spanish. It seems to me that I have pointed out at least one very
>useful thing on hf.

I've been listening to HF for two years (Sony 2010) and find it
extremely rare to hear an interesting conversation.

>There has been a lot of useful health and welfare traffic on HF.

That is interesting. I heard the HAMS passing messages back to
mainland after last summers hurricanes. Was only way for them to
communicate to loved ones they were OK.

>If you are finding nothing it is because you don't try or don't want
>to or are just rationalizing you inability to get a license for HF.
>Gil Baron W0MN [e-mail] Web http://www.isl.net/~gbaron

I tried, nada, zippo, extremely boring listening on HF ... majority of time.
Your second wise crack is your attempt to rationalize this fellows
views on HF conversations. Me thinks you fall into category of "old fart".
KC5LWF




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:28 1996
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HF sUcks???
Date: 30 Mar 1996 23:59:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4jkht4$[e-mail]>

Seems to me that the chronic complainers seem to have 1 small problem and I ha
ve the solution.

Follow the example of the war protesters of the 60's.  BURN your licenses.  Ge
t off the airwaves..show
your unhappiness by shutting down and dropping out.

I would also shot the SOB that forced you to get that dreaded license.  How da
re they make
you do something you didn't want to do!!!

Stay off the wicked nasty HF.  Show your contempt by never upgrading.  Leave H
F to the DX'ers and the contesters.

Stay in your basements with video screens glued to your foreheads.  Be like Bu
rt..be like Drew..be like Jerry
Moan, groan, do anything it takes to scare the big bad HF away.

Remember only you can prevent forset fires.  RF caused IQ changes, stay away

WARNING WILL ROBINSON WARNING stay off HF stay where it's safe

DANGER DANGER  HF will kill stay away


This has been a pubic (happy burt??) service announcement sponsored

Kids In Space Serving Many Amateur Spectrum Sections  (KISSMYASS)

No code or Know code  who gives a darn

Steve


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alan Gollom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RTTY on the WARC bands
Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:06:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4jklql$[e-mail]>


As one who has recently discovered the joys of RTTY, I've
been scouting the various bands for activity in that mode.
I've discovered a fair bit on 80, 40 and 20 (the open bands
these days), but next to nothing on the 30 and 17 meter
WARC bands.

Now I realize that the WARC bands probably don't appeal to
those whose primary interest is contesting.  I also guess that
there may be a reluctance by some with limited space who want
to optomize what space they have for antennas for the bands
"where the action is".

This is certainly not to say the WARC bands are dead.  Far
from it.  There is a fair bit of activity on phone, cw,
packet and the TOR modes, but as I said, little if any on
RTTY.

There's nice open space there just waiting to be filled.
You might be pleasantly surprised by the propagation on
these bands and what you can do with just 50 - 100 watts
and a simple dipole - especially now during the low end
of the solar cycle.

So how about giving it a try, RTTY enthusiasts.  Break away
from the crowds and try something new and a little different -
RTTY on the WARC bands.

Hope to see you there.

73...Alan VE3XAG




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:30 1996
From: [e-mail](RICHARD LEFFLER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HF ant on Astrovan?
Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:10:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4jkm2n$[e-mail]>


    Has anyone actually mounted and HF antenna system on their
Astrovan? If so, how and where? I have set of Hustler coils I want to
use, but cannot seem to find an easy way to mount the spring and ball
through the side of the vehidcle. Email info to:
    [e-mail]. Tnx from Dick - AC6CE.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:31 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ja4ro$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:11:18 GMT

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The pertinent metric would then seem to be, how many amateurs
: purchase the optional CW filter? I don't have any statistics,
: but it would be interesting to find out. (Even that is confusing,
: however. For example I bought the 500 Hz digital filter for the
: IC-706, but some might have bought it for CW because the 250 Hz
: filter has excessive ringing.)

Since the IC-706 has room for only one filter, it is a nice feature that
the filter plugs in, as opposed to being soldered in place.

Here is another burning question: How many hams are buying the IC-706 for
*VHF* use?  Sounds odd, but one of my thoughts before buying the 706 was,
"Well, even if the HF is not that good, where can one find a 6/2 meter
all-mode transceiver in one box, for any price?"

The club bought a 706 just before I did, and I plan to take both 706s to
Field Day this year.  My wife is trying to stimulate interest in other VHF
modes than FM and packet by operating 6/2 SSB during FD, while I operate
10-15-20 with my 706.

Just a thought...

73 de Jim - KF6CR


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bostonian)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTD: RCA WT-100A OR HICKOK 700 TUBE TESTER
Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:40:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4jknqa$[e-mail]>

RCA WT-100A and/or Hickok 700 tube tester wanted.  Seeking unit in good
running condition, needing some repairs or for parts (if I later come across
a working unit).  Willing to swap for something or please state a fair price
for the respective unit.  I would prefer swapping something as cash is tight,
but I would have to find out what you are looking for -- I may have it.
Please indicate if you have manuals, schematics, charts and/or plug-in tube
sockets for the respective tube tester.

Kindly, email with details.

Thank you.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:33 1996
From: leslie ferguson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Transverter ,hf rig problem
Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:56:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4jkoon$[e-mail]>

Hi
   Can anyone help me,i have a 2meter transverter connected up to my hf
rig(ft 757 gx) but every time i transmit i get audio back out throught
the speaker on the hf rig.I wander is the hf rig picking up rf from the
transverter or is it something else can any help?

                             Thanks ....ei9ejb.....



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Keeton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FT-530 mod
Date: 31 Mar 1996 02:27:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4jkqik$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Ben... I have had my 530 for about one month now... I did the mod where
you cut the green wire... I have extended Rx on VFH but thats it... No
Extended Rx/Tx on UFh (I even changed the band limits..)
The mod worked great the day that I did it.. But the next day it didn't work.
Get that?? I can figure it out... Nobody else can figure it out either...
I undid it by connecting the green wires back up... reset the radio...
disconnected them.. w/ the radio it had extended Tx/Rx on both Uhf/Vfh..
But when I closed the radio back up the quit working.. That part
really confused me!!

Good luck... if you want more info from me or a copy of the mod I did...
email me.. [e-mail]..
Enjoy..

/john

[e-mail]
http://www.umr.edu/~keeton

Ben Chambers ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi,

> I have an FT-530 and I have the mod file for it... I'm a bit paranoid
> about doing it as my friend's radio has a different layout inside. (He did
> the mod on his). I'm wondering if anybody has successfully completed the
> mod on a recently purchesed FT-530, and which instructions were correct.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:35 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is my tech plus study guide still effective?
Date: 31 Mar 1996 03:02:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4jksja$[e-mail]>
References: <4jfkc5$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, "S. Sampson" <[e-mail]> writes:
>CrACKeD wrote:
>>
>> I have a study guide from Radio Shack for the Technician Plus License
>> which is dated effective July 1, 1990.  Can I still use this book to
>> study for the current Technicain Plus exam?
>
>Check the cover.  It states when it is good through.
>
>--
>Steve Sampson, N5OWK
>mailto:[e-mail]

Last I knew there were new questions for the Technician class licenses
effective July 1, 1995...  So, nope...  No good!

(1990?? The pool has been updated twice since then!)

Steve W.
 N2RWE


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:36 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Leikhim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with my FT-11R?
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 03:33:08 GMT
Message-ID: <4jkutd$[e-mail]>
References: <4j57ee$[e-mail]>

Stanley Lalli <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on, memory, display,
>beeps...all work. If I try to key, the signal meter goes up, but the
>transmit light doesn't come on. There is NO signal output. The receiver
>is out too. You can open the squelch and there is static, but it WILL NOT
>receive any signals.

Sounds like the synthesizer is out of lock. Did someone modify the
unit for "out of band" if so they may have tried to tune the VCO for
another freq range. Try the unit on different parts of the band to see
if it works. Try simplex, If it will work at all you have a chance to
reset the VCO. A VCO adjustment generally requires you to set the
radio to a specific frequency and adjust the coil for a specific VCO
voltage, reset to another freq and verify or reset the voltage again.
Sometimes these small radios' VCO's go out of lock due to poor
mechanical assembly, loose hardware, or poor grounding. Good luck.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (R. Wiley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest?
Date: 31 Mar 96 06:25:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4j2jp7$[e-mail]> <4ja0r9$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] writes:


>(more flame bait) The lewd/crude/obscene conversation on many of the HF
>SSB bands is another area where there is real potential for giving newcomers
>& especially kids a bad impression of hams & of ham radio in general.  This
>is harder to police than hamfests but I think it is another area where we nee
d
>to examine ourselves & decide what sort of impression we want to give
>people.  Failure to do so will surely result in us losing our bands someday
>to business interests.

>73 - Alan Braun NS0B

The bands lost to business interests haven't been lost due
to content but disuse. Showtime and Cinemax are business
interests.


NE0R


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (R. Wiley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys
Date: 31 Mar 96 06:42:08 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <[e-mail]> <4j3m77$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4j5r02$[e-mail]> <4jahoe$[e-mail]> <4jc8qt$[e-mail]> <4jecdh$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] writes:



                                 I'd say that at least a third of all hams own
>computers, and if the object of the no-code license is to attract the
>computer type, then it seems as though no-code with computer proficiency
>go really well hand-in-hand.


The object of the no-code license has nothing to do with
attracting "computer types". Canada tried digital licenses
long before the US no-code license to attract the Pac Man
crowd.  The response was underwhelming.  The no-code
license was created to help electronic importers sell
2 meter boxes.


NE0R



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (William J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES!
Date: 31 Mar 1996 07:39:14 GMT
Message-ID: <4jlcr2$[e-mail]>
References: <4j1egi$[e-mail]> <4jae28$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4jhci0$[e-mail]> <4jk2r4$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (William J. Graham)


interestingly enough a friend who used to manage a company
owned store once told me that he had be advised NOT to hire hams and
others with knowledge of electronics and computers.

Might tell the truth I guess <G>

73

Bill
N5LMX/DA1WG
--
Never Thirst !
"My head hurts, my feet stink and I don't love Jesus!"- J. Buffett


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:40 1996
From: "Ken Bessler (KG0WX)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 07:51:25 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4csf3v$[e-mail]> <4fa64n$[e-mail]> <4fi74f$[e-mail]> <4gb4pa$[e-mail]> <4ji31p$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

kevin D. tischler wrote:
> ok, you think that,
> no problem...
> fuck you you stupid asswipe motherfucker....
>
> you started it.
> i ended it <twit filter on>
> eat shit you stupid pig fuck.
> go back to 2,10,1.2g, whatever.
> STAY OFF 11 METER
> <you may drown if your nose is to high during a heavy rain storm>
> fuck you you puke.....
>
> this is how U see us, therefore this is how we are.
> l8tr

Hmmmm. Sounds like CB to me!
--

                                Ken Bessler
                                Design Services Company
                                http://www2.southwind.net/~kg0wx
                                Model railroad designing


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (lovelace)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: YAESU DAY AT HRO
Date: 31 Mar 1996 08:49:01 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jm47l$[e-mail]>

Where is the new Phoenix store to be located?  I hope no further west
than it already is located!

[e-mail] (R. Dale Piedfort) wrote:

>To celebrate the Grand Opening of the new Phoenix, Arizona store
>on April 13th, 1996 all 12 Ham Radio Outlet stores will be offering
>special discounts on all Yaesu Products..........
>
>Yaesu factory representatives will be at the Phoenix store to answer
>your questions about their products..
>



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stanley Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2 meter or 440Mhz?
Date: 31 Mar 1996 09:34:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jljjo$[e-mail]>

2 meter or 440 Mhz?

I just passed my technician test and I'm saving to buy a hand held unit.
To start with, I figured I'd just get something dependable and affordable,
 but nothing too fancy (either new or used, whatever is the better deal.)
I've herd that the Radio Shack hand helds are good for the price. Does
anybody have any suggestions on better hand helds units? And does anybody
have any sugestions on which band is better or at least info on the pro
and cons between 2m and 440? Eventually I'd also like to get into packet
radio so that is also a factor in figuring out which band might be better
for me to start out in.
73
de KF6CND Stan [[e-mail]]





From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:42 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:12:17 GMT
Message-ID: <4jlbir$[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Well, at least he's got the QRP thing right. I kinda get a kick out of
working South America , Cuba,  Europe and the West coast from my car
with my Ramsey 10 watt 20m rig and a hamstick. Of course it's the same
when chatting with someone in Russia or elsewhere in Europe on my
paltry 100 watts and 50ft. wire running out of  my window in the
trailer park I live in. Gee, I'm glad I didn't reduce my self to
joining that "no-code-crybaby" thread :)



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:43 1996
From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: If you own a gun and you are a ham
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:15:09 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

You are a double wimp. You need the gun to replace
the part on your body that is dormant and you use
the ham radio to play the Wizard of Oz
--
#================#=====================================================#|  Bur
t Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#| k1oi
[e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#
Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:44 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4j7r82$[e-mail]><[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
From: [e-mail] (Patrick Wilson)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:15:50 GMT
Subject: Re:Burts suck

A least you do.  I heard.......




In article <[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) writes:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> >I must confess that at various times in my life I have toyed with
>> >the idea of becomming an amateur radio operator.
>>
>> Well you are NOT a ham ... good. You are not good enough to pass the
>> exams.
>
>But I am a ham and the author is correct, we suck.
>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
>| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
>|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
>#================#=====================================================#
>| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
>#======================================================================#
>
>Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
>bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)
>



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:45 1996
From: Charles Bolland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Shortwave etc database program....
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:51:57 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Sir,

A stand alone IBM compatible Broadcasting Radio Station Database
program for Longwave, Mediumwave, or Shortwave.  4000 records...
Completely read/write and updateable...

If you'd like a copy, send your EMail address and Postal Address
which will be used to pass you more detailed information on
the full featured program....

The above program will be sent via EMAIL...

All information will be kept confidential....

Chuck

KA4PRF


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Kehler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hamfests suck was(Re: HF sucks!
Date: 31 Mar 1996 10:55:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4jloa8$[e-mail]>
References: <4jelum$[e-mail]> <4jelvr$[e-mail]> <4jgdre$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4jgdre$[e-mail]> [e-mail].n
et (Jim Kehler) writes:

: Jim, you're advice to Nate about HF is spot on, however, let me take
: issue with your view of hamfests.

<snip....>

OK Gary, you have a point. "One man's garbage is another man's gold.....".
I'd like to meet you some time, but not at a hamfest.....

73, Jim KH2D



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Pillera)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: UT7W
Date: 31 Mar 1996 10:59:29 -0500
Message-ID: <4jma51$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Pillera)

Hi,
I just worked UT7W on 14.239 MHz, and can't find him in the callbook.  How
do I QSL him?

Thanks!
Joe Pillera, N8QYO
Ann Arbor, MI  USA
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:49 1996
From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: Naughty Rude Words
Date: 31 Mar 1996 11:05:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4jloui$[e-mail]>


This thread having to do with the messed up FM-25 has certainly gotten the mil
eage.
We're all behaving like a bunch of politicians:  making a lot of noise about s
omething
that is not in the least bit important.  An emotional issue and therefore not
conducive
to rational discussion.
We're talking about words here, not some threat to personal or national securi
ty, or to
the health and general welfare of mankind.  Just words.
Every time I read another shrill and strident post on this subject
I think about what my son (10 at the time) said when Pee Wee Herman was busted
,
"Isn't that what people do when they watch porno flicks?"  Oh, that wonderful
purity
of a child's morality.  Come on folks, let's drop this thing for good. It's a
waste of resources
and time and it's getting ridiculous what with the patriots, the freedom fight
ers and the
moralists getting all frothed up.  What has finally done it for me is a messag
e I read today
that alludes to posts acceptable for "family channels" and "mixed company" yet
 has a
signature block that contains the suggestive double entendre "Hams do it bounc
ing off
the "F" layer."  What a hypocritical, self-righteous prig!


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:50 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: Is my tech plus study guide still effective?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:15:29 GMT
References: <4jfkc5$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>,
   S. Sampson <"S. Sampson" <[e-mail]>> wrote:
|CrACKeD wrote:
  does he have a name or a call sign?
|> I have a study guide from Radio Shack for the Technician Plus License
|> which is dated effective July 1, 1990.  Can I still use this book to
|> study for the current Technicain Plus exam?
|
|Check the cover.  It states when it is good through.

The questions for technician were revised in '93 or so.  Certainly the '90
book is out of date.  (If it's a book like Now You're Talking, the text is
mostly OK, only the question pool is affected.)

Of course the technician plus only requires a 5 wpm code test - no theory.
The next license that needs theory is general, and you need 13 wpm for that.

        /J

--
Nets: [e-mail]  |  "There were sweetheart roses on Yancey Wilmerding's
  or [e-mail]|  bureau that morning.  Wide-eyed and distraught, she
POTS: [phone]  |  stood with all her faculties rooted to the floor."
ARS:  KD1ON          |                                  -- S. J. Perelman


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Mark McAnally)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: * * * AFFORDABLE QSL CARDS * * *
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:00:49
Message-ID: <4jmkid$[e-mail]>

After some checking, I found out that QSL cards cost anywhere from
$70.00 to $450.00 per 1000 cards to be printed up. I also found
out that you are pretty limited to the color of card, artwork and
color of ink to choose from. I have been printing cards for my ham

friends for some time now and I have been encouraged by my friends

to branch out and advertise a little.

I can print 1000 cards with black ink for only $50.00. Why should
you order your cards from me? Because $50.00 is it! No shipping
charges, no setup charges, no hidden costs. PLUS...you have your
choice of 13 card colors, unlimited artwork, and you can have up
to FIVE different layouts per order. Want color ink? For example,
do you want a red, white and blue US flag on your cards? That
would only be $65.00 per 1000, with 13 card colors to choose from,

up to FIVE different layouts, and unlimited artwork in black or
colors.

Your card color choices are white, blue, yellow, pink, green,
ivory, peach, gray, and the following eyepopping flourescents:
yellow, pink, green, blue, and red. Artwork is too numerous to
list all designs here, but just some examples would be an ARRL
logo, ARES logo, SKYWARN logo, flags of all 50 states, maps of all
50 states, antennas and radios, flags and maps of US territories
and foreign countries and 1000's more...
Custom artwork available at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE!!! Just tell me
what you want!!!

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today!

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or you can mail check or money order to:

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6223 Hwy 90
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Milton, FL  32570-1708



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (George Deamicis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR AEA
Date: 31 Mar 1996 13:24:24 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jm128$[e-mail]>

Does anyone have a E-Mail address for Advance Electronic Applications,
Inc.


                 73 GEORGE

                  N1JGE




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (R. Dale Piedfort)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: YAESU DAY AT HRO
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:12:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4jm47l$[e-mail]>

To celebrate the Grand Opening of the new Phoenix, Arizona store
on April 13th, 1996 all 12 Ham Radio Outlet stores will be offering
special discounts on all Yaesu Products..........

Yaesu factory representatives will be at the Phoenix store to answer
your questions about their products..



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:53 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest?
Date: 31 Mar 1996 15:01:44 -0500
Message-ID: <4jmob8$[e-mail]>

>> poetic way to describe amateurs: 'mostly male, mostly middle aged,
>> mostly white group of asocial loners'.  And all these years I have
>> been told that ham radio consisted of the three basic groups:
>> freaks, jerks, and weirdos........
>
>Those groups are very well represented in ham radio.


IE: YOU!


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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:54 1996
From: Alan Doherty <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSL info for S92SS,P49V and J37BC
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 15:36:21 +0100
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Robert Newman <[e-mail]>
writes
>Im needing qsl info for S92SS, P49V and J37BC.
>Any help would be MOST appreciated.
>
>Robert/WB4LLP

S92SS
Charles Lewis, Box 522, Sao Tome, West Africa. (Via Portugal)

P49V
Via AI6V
--
Alan Doherty, GI0OTC


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:55 1996
From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Naughty Rude Words
Date: 31 Mar 1996 16:16:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4jmb4m$[e-mail]>
References: <4jloui$[e-mail]>

<[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>We're talking about words here, not some threat to personal or national secur
ity, or to
>the health and general welfare of mankind.  Just words.

Hi Stephan, well said. The ones who get upset are cooperating with the upsetti
ng
one by using freedom of choice to choose to get upset. Assume exactly the same
word meanings but in a language one doesn't understand. No upset there. "Stick
s
and stones ..."

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:56 1996
From: [e-mail] (Larry Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 30 meter operators
Date: 31 Mar 1996 16:45:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jmcs2$[e-mail]>

I am operating 30 meters virtually all the time now and am interested in
hearing from other 30 meter operators.  What kind of equiptment are you
using, what antenna and what do you think about the band as concerns
propagation and dx.- 73, wb5kyk
PS:  I am in MS. and if you need a sked let me know.



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: If you own a gun and you are a ham
Date: 31 Mar 1996 17:02:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4jmdqj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:

:
: you use the ham radio to play the Wizard of Oz : -- :


Good analogy!


Nate.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ARO's suck
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:19:48 GMT
Message-ID: <4jm7nu$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>I must confess that at various times in my life I have toyed with
>the idea of becomming an amateur radio operator.  Even went so far
>as to obtain a copy of the morse code and commence to memorize it.
>I always soon gave up with it as a waste of time.  Listening to
>real-life hams I realized just how boring and empty your lives
>are.  All you ever talk about is themselves and how much you paid
>for your equipment. Whats the sense in memorizing morse code when
>it is outmoded? Why force people to pass a radio theory test when
>they never build or fix their own equipment?  All ARO's do is go
>down to their local store and tell the man behind the counter to
>give them the most expensive gear he has so they can boast
>on-the-air about how much it costs.  When it breaks they just post
>an ad to rec.radio.swap and sell it to some unsuspecting dufus who
>thinks he is getting something that works and then they go out and
>buy something even more expensive to boast about.  At least Hams
>only cheat each other and not honest people.  I can respect CB'ers
>who are involved in community work and highway assistance.  Hams
>are nothing but loosers.  Who cares how many kilowatts of power you
>can run or how many countries you talk to?  Its all "me....me...me"
>with you loosers. What a gaggle of clowns.

Hmmmmm.  Clueless here sure knows a LOT about the hobby to be an
outsider!  I think Clueless (good name...it fits well!!) used nearly
every cliche topic from the top twenty "Chicken Little - the Band is
Falling" list.  CW testing, appliance operatin', QRO vs QRP, etc etc.
I think Clueless already has a ticket and maybe his wife divorced him
and took all his money and now he can't afford to play with the big
boys any more.  Or he so pissed off the local 2m group that Clueless
isn't invited to play in the reindeer games there, so he opted for a
change in venue for his Clueless banter.  Or maybe he's jaded after
having played the role of the unsuspecting dufus in a
rec.radio.amateur.swap deal one time too many.  One can only imagine
the real motivation for this line of mindless trolling drivel.

I have read that use of the Freudian slip "looser" when you really
meant "loser" has something to do with latent male homosexuality.  And
of course the root word for "gaggle" is "gag"....hmmmm maybe I'm onto
something here.  But, the saving grace, he still has his account at
AOL!!

Bob




From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:10:59 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] ("Stephen Walters")
Subject: Re: HF sucks!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jhnd3$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:21:45 GMT

In my opinion, this brown nosing is pointless.

First of all, If you consider Ham radio, in particular, contesting, as a
sport, as well as hobby then some interesting analogies can be made. CW
will still be used for the die hards and contesters. CW will remain a
favourite of contesters on all bands for many years with it's 14db
advantage over voice.

What the pro-CW people seem to forget is that ham has a contribution to
make, code or no-code. I am G7VFY, a UK, radio ham with no CW, and
therefore, a 'B' licensee with no access to the HF amateur bands.

However, I do have an HF rig, for us with my transverter and world wide
communication IS NOT A PROBLEM with these modes. IT IS, IN MY OPINION,
THAT 90% OF ALL THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN AMATEUR RADIO
ARE BEING DONE 50MHz AND ABOVE, OR, MORE LIKELY 1.2GHz AND ABOVE.

Chatting to someone on ssb or cw on the other side of the planet on HF
requires minimal skills. This is simply not the case with VHF/UHF/SHF.

Hams doing Meteor scatter or moon bounce with 1000wpm CW is a considable
achievement, performed by SKILLED AND DEDICATED enthusiasts who, for the
most, have left HF as there is no challenge to it!

I would consider using a 150 year method of communication like a Morse
Code merely a method of preserving a private club. I does not make you a
better ham,

Perhaps there should be exams for Packet radio, SlowscanTV, RTTY, AMTOR,
FastscanTV, Meteor scatter and E-M-E/moon bounce?

After all morse is only a manual skill, akin to juggling or card play?!

I will not cry with the passing of CW. This progress is why we don't use
semaphore or spark-gap transmitters.

Hail the new age.....

Regards

Steve

G7VFY.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:11:00 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] ("Stephen Walters")
Subject: Re: Transverter ,hf rig problem
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jkoon$[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:21:47 GMT

Sounds like you have a grounding problem...you have too much RF flying
around.

1. Make sure you equipment is WELL earthed.
2. Make sure RF is not getting into your mains/power supply.
3. Make sure your antenna is fitted with some kind of balun so that it's
the antenna that does the radiating and not your feed cable.

Steve

G7VFY.


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:11:01 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion
Date: 31 Mar 1996 17:56:21 GMT
Message-ID: <4jmh05$[e-mail]>
References: <4j73hm$[e-mail]> <4jkhmi$[e-mail]>

In article <4jkhmi$[e-mail]>,
Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4j73hm$[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:
>>
>>Not to play the heavy-handed Net.Cop, but rec.radio.amateur.policy
>>is the appropriate newsgroup for discussion of the CW requirement.
>>If you don't believe me, have a look at the charter of the newsgroups.
>>
>
>Anything having to do with the future of amateur radio can be discussed in an
y
>amateur radio newsgroup(IMHO).

Then why have the topical newsgroups of the Usenet at all?  It rather
amazes me that radio amateurs will readily ignore the self-policing
policies of the Usenet and yet think they should have more enforcement
power from the FCC in the amateur context.

Either we understand and respect self-policing, or we don't.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should *
 * [phone]               | not be interpreted or represented as     *
 * [e-mail]      | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc.          *



From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:11:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (WB3U)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: QRO Merchants
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 22:11:51 GMT
Message-ID: <4jn0c8$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

   [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) wrote:

>We seem to give inordinate credit to the operator *transmitting*
>QRP, but seem to ignore the operator *receiving* QRP.

That's a very good point.  When I call CQ and a QRP station answers,
I'm the one who ends up doing all the work.  That's especially true if
my amplifier is on, because it seems to encourage replies from
stations that are practically buried in the noise.

I'm not big on constests (as if you didn't know), but crediting
operators for working a QRP station, in addition to a more moderate
credit for being QRP, would seem more logical and equitable all the
way around.  I'll bet the QRP boys would rack up some pretty big
scores with a plan like that, in addition to working more stations!

>Most any idiot can copy a QRO signal

Unless it's QRQ.  ;)

73,
Jack  WB3U


From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:11:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics,rec.radio.pirates
Subject: April edition, Ham Radio Online is now available
Date: 31 Mar 1996 23:33:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4jn4p0$[e-mail]>

The April edition of Ham Radio Online magazine is now available at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook
or
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

This month features original stories on packet radio path quality, spread
spectrum
communications, more information on making your own solar observations, gettin
g
started in shortwave listening and an amazing list of hidden or not so hidden
renditions of Morse code in popular music. We will be adding more stories over
the coming weeks - this is a dynamic magazine with upates appearing as often
as daily.

As usual, Ham Radio Online also features Amateur radio newsletters from around
the world, real-time ionospheric propagation reports, real-time aurora
conditions,
real-time MUF calculations, real-time earthquake and severe weather reports an
d
so much more.

Stop and by and enjoy. We are free - and free of ads too - your stories are
always
welcome at  Ham Radio Online.

Thanks and 73,
Ed and Kim Mitchell,
KF7VY and N7VPL


------------------------
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Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at
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From [e-mail] Tue Apr 02 09:11:05 1996
From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need email add for Rev George at GQRP
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:53:12 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4jgoht$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4jgoht$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "William J. Graham" writes:

> can someone provide the email add fro Rev George Dobbs
> of GQRP?

[e-mail]

73
Mike       The CQ Centre BBS, 01753 595468, 300-28800 bps, 8N1, ANSI-BBS
G4KFK      Tel/Fax Slough [phone]