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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:11 1996
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From: Wayne Jones <wjones.hgea.org>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup?
Date: 1 Feb 1996 04:05:03 GMT
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William Vaughn <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I am curious if there is any interest out there in a sperate newsgroup
>aimed at ARES RACES operations. Something like rec.radio.amateur.emcomm
>or something like that. Please email me with your response, if there is
>enough interest I will take the initiative and jump through the hoops to
>get it going.
>
I would like to see one and I will pass the word to my RACES organization
if such a group is set up.

Aloha
Wayne, NH6GJ
Communications Officer
Oahu Civil Defense Agency



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Charles McMullen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HELP with FBB v5.15c problem
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:03:32 GMT
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Hi and thanks for reading this.

I recently upgraded the W3YA packet BBS from v5.15 to v5.15c of the F6FBB
software.  The problems I'm having are as follows:

1.  When anybody replies to a message using the SR command, the system
generates a Ping-Pong warning message to the SYSOP.

2. The Multi server kills messages addressed to it or to names that
have .DAT files associated with them but it doesn't make copies addressed to
the intended recipiants.

Neither of these were problems before the upgrade.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Please e-mail replys to [e-mail].

Thanks, Chuck - K3CM


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:14 1996
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From: fiz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: tcm 3105 chip
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 10:12:49 -0800
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To: "Robellio%12:250/104" <"Robellio%12:250/104">

Robellio%12:250/104 wrote:
>
> can any one help (i do not need an address of where i can get one)
>                 is there anyone who has one they want to sell me
>

JDR Microdevices. $8.95, no minimum order. The crystal you'll be asking
for next is available from Jameco Electronics ($25 min order?). Both have
800 #'s and both have Web pages (www.jdr.com and www.jameco.com?).

ttfn  fiz (KG0YG)


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From: fiz <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: tcm 3105 chip
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Robellio%12:250/104 wrote:
>
> can any one help (i do not need an address of where i can get one)
>                 is there anyone who has one they want to sell me
>

JDR Microdevices. $8.95, no minimum order. The crystal you'll be asking
for next is available from Jameco Electronics ($25 min order?). Both have
800 #'s and both have Web pages (www.jdr.com and www.jameco.com?).

ttfn  fiz (KG0YG)


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City/Repeater Use
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: PE1CHL
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In <4elgqo$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark Fellhauer)
 writes:

>[e-mail] (Rob Janssen) wrote:

>>In <[e-mail]> Eddie Caffray <[e-mail]> wri
tes:

>>> On the 146.85 repeater here in Central NY we had trouble with one user als
o. He made it that
>>>no one would even monitor the reapeater anymore. The club voted to ban him
and we did. The
>>>reapeater is a great place to be again.

>>How do you manage to effectively ban malicious users from a repeater?
>>Of course this problem is known all over the world, but at least over
>>here we have not yet found an effective way of stopping them.  How do
>>you do that?

>Go to the Arizona Repeater Association's Home Page to see how this is
>done.  It involves actively pursuing people who engage in such
>activity.  The ARA, as a matter of routine, has an interference
>committee dedicated to tracking these people down.

>Despite reports to the contrary, the FCC does frown on this activity,
>and will enforce sanctions.  Just ask the people here in Phoenix about
>that.  An NAL, Notice of Apparant Liability, carries a stiff monetary
>fine, about $20,000 (US) worth and forfeiture of ALL broadcasting
>equipment and license(s).

Hmmm...   it looks like HDTP (or equivalent of the FCC) does not put
out such drastic sanctions.
Normally one will lose the license for a year or so, and one could get
a fine of maybe $500.

This does not seem to stop some people...   when you have been reading the
BBSes, you can see that the wellknown person that causes havoc on the
local packet network is still active.  He is fully known by name,
ex-callsign, and address.
(he just uses callsigns of other people, mainly VERON officials, to
post offensive messages.  he was also active on the phone repeater sometime,
transmitting over those same people, but I think he has lost interest in that)

Rob
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| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Donald
 I. Baker) writes:

>Technical solutions do exist.  Using a "TX-ID" board, which uniquely
>fingerprints each transmitter and a PC one can "slectively" include or
>preclude individual users.

>The board was not meant for that purpose, but with just a little Basic of C
>codes, it workd just fine.  It is especially easy if you have a single or
>limited number of receive site.

Is that using some public key encryption technique?
If not, what is preventing the malicious from cloning one of the
apparently valid codes?

Also, what is preventing the malicious user from just keying up over
other people's transmissions, thus rendering the repeater useless?

Rob
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| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mparkes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Does Winlink support HF/VHF X-connect?
Date: 1 Feb 1996 10:25:59 -0500
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I am trying to setup a pactor HF to VHF packet gateway/node and am
considering using Winlink to do it. Does it offer this capability ?

Any help, advice is appreciated!
Mike KS4DA


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY?
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: PE1CHL
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In <4eo6fu$[e-mail]> "Dana H. Myers" <[e-mail]> w
rites:

>>Why would you want the state machine DCD when you already have a
>>good RF-sensed carrier indication?

>The RF-sensed carrier detect may not be sensitive enough to consistently
>indicate a carrier even when a signal is present at adequate quieting
>to be demodulated by the modem.

This is very unlikely for the AFSK-FM system that the state machine DCD
is usually used for.  A noise detection circuit (like used in most
transceiver squelch circuits, only with shorter time constants) detects
the carrier way before it can be AFSK demodulated using commonly used
MODEM chips.

>>The point in having multiple modes is to allow the use of older, slower,
>>equipment (at least temporarily) until everyone has moved to the
>>highest supported speed.
>>It is not very sensible to require everyone to have multiple DCD's
>>installed.  When everyone had to modify his equipment, you could just
>>as well only implement the highest speed and let everyone use just that.

>That's true, but the fact is that it isn't very sensible to attempt to
>share a frequency between multiple modes in the first place.  People
>do it, but it is always less than optimal.

It depends on how you define "optimal".  When cost and bandplanning are
also taken into account, it may well be better than running multiple
modes on different frequencies, and "optimal" given the restrictions.

(over here, all packet channels are in a single 400 KHz band segment on
70cm, and it is thus quite unpractical to run two systems on two different
frequencies at a single site.  also, many groups just don't have the
cash available to set it up, when it would be possible.  under these
circumstances, running 1200 plus some higher speed on a single channel
is better than running 1200 alone.  it provides a migration path, and
1200 can be turned off at some time, as has been done at several sites
now.  this would not have been easily accepted when the 1200 mode was just
replaced by something faster on one day)

Rob
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| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:21 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY?
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: PE1CHL
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Coffman
) writes:

>And what's usually happening on the channel is congestive collapse.
>It's a *very bad* idea to run mixed speeds on the same channel.
>Some idiot will be running a 1200 baud only TNC, and it won't
>sense the other speeds, and there goes the channel.

Fortunately, most idiots can be convinced to rip out the "DCD mod"
or "software DCD" or whatever they have by just slamming their signal
with enough power at higher speeds so that they see the disadvantage
themselves.

As explained before, the only alternative to running multiple speeds
is to use only 1200, and that is certainly the worst of all.

Rob
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| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ulf Rimkus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Atari ST tcpip software??
Date: 1 Feb 1996 16:11:57 GMT
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John Boyer ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone of any tcpip software for the Atari ST?


: Regards  John B

:
: internet: [e-mail]
: packet: [e-mail]  (44.131.244.84)
: home page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/john_wxpics/index.html

Well, there is KA9Q, PE1CHL and JNOS for the Atari ST.

73's de Ulf
--
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faengt man an, sich im Spiegel zu betrachten und zu gruebeln."
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:24 1996
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From: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HamCom Experience
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 16:32:39 GMT
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On Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:44:16 MST, [e-mail] (Bill Jones)
wrote:

>I recently downloaded a copy of HamCom (version 3.0) and am impressed with it
s
>elegance and feature-rich menu.  Although I have been a ham for 41 years, I
>have no prior experience with any of the digital modes such as RTTY and
>AMTOR.  I have been a CW operator exclusively.  Is HamCom a good way for an
>old geezer to get his feet wet?  Any experience with this software, both pro
>and con, would be appreciated.
Hi Bill! Yes, us old geezers should help each other (licensed mid
1966). Can't help a lot with actual HAMCOMM but having had it on my
VDU screen a couple of times, I'm fairly impressed..........!!
BUT (!!!) the nice thing about the very simple 741 op-amp modem
circuit you get with the software is that the same darn thung can be
used without modification to send and receive Slow Scan TV using JVFAX
vers 7.00. And in full color on your VDU screen. Just listen on 14.230
most days and hear the SSTV guys chatting and SSTV'ing away to each
other sending pictures of themselves, their QTH's, their wives and
their rigs. Nice stuff, Bill. JVFAX uses exactly the same HAMCOMM
modem and wiring. Just load it, configure it and watch all da' pretty
piccies........  I am not there, transmitting, (YET) as my class of
Australian ham license doesn't permit operation in the 20 meter ham
band but do listen a watch the pretty SSTV stuff.
Hope you have fun,
Best 73's
Bob.

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From: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Getting Internet Access via Packet/HAM Radio
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 16:32:53 GMT
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On 28 Jan 1996 21:55:21 -0500, [e-mail] (Lorrin Harringeton)
wrote:
Hi Lorrin!
Well, in answer to your question, there are, in most countries due to
international law, some problems on allowing unlicensed non-amateurs
access to packet radio or to ANY amateur radio frequencies by ANY mode
whether it be Packet Radio or whatever. The Administrations
(Governments) of the world have agreed, in Geneva, Switzerland, that a
formal qualification in Amateur Radio shall be required BEFORE
allowing transmission on any of the ham Bands. Besides, if you're
accessing the hambands by phone or by whatever other means you WILL
require an Amateur Radio Callsign issued legally by the proper
adminstration in your country. Try going on air without one of those
or with a bogus one and you'll get, generally, the very Cold Shoulder
Treatment from the Amateur Operators around the world. Plus the fact
that, in most countries, the amateurs are licensed to have
communications ONLY with other licensed amateurs and, to allow you on
air, directly or indirectly, by phone or by direct operation of
amateur equipment, will be asking the guys you're contemplating
contact with to breach the terms of THEIR own  licences and risking a
heavy fine or jail for yourself.............. (In Australia, its
$10,000 or six months jail is you go on air without a licence....)

It IS the ONLY hobby in the world for which you need a government
license.......... Its the ONLY hobby in the world for which
governments have had to make special international treaties..

There it is, looks like you'll need to do the study in radio and
electronics, do the ham exam in your country and get a valid callsign
then play to your heart's content. Contact the Licensing Authority in
your country and they'll no doubt guide you to a place where you can
get the required study and the examinations in the theory to get on
air.
Sorry if this souds a bit pompous above but the guys worked very hard
for their licences and probably will give you a hard time if you
attempt to get on air without doin' the study and the legal bits as
 well. The FCC in the States is the Authority there and, similarly, in
Australia, its the Spectrum Management Authority, not that the
lastmentioned is likely to be of much help to you if you live
elsewhere. There WILL be an appropriate Governmental Authority in YOUR
country. Just look 'em up in the telephone directory. They often have
licensed amateur operators on their staff who will be PLEASED to
assist you........

If I can help (if the pompous stuff above or the size of the task
doesn't deter you), please email me direct as per the .sig lines
below...
Best 73's de Bob.

>I'm an avid Internet freak (Also a Linux addict) using a 14.4 baud link
>on my /only/ phone line.  Now this isn't my only phone line to due to $
>restraints, just because my father will not get another phone line.  I
>constantly get yelled at for being on the net (tieing up the phone line)
>and are looking for alternatives.  I was told about Packet Radio from a
>friend, who knew little accept the fact that it exists.  I don't have a
>HAM amatuer license, but if need be, I can study and attain one.  But i'm
>looking for internet access alternatives and will do almost ANYTHING to
>get on the net via Packet Radio.  I just need to aska  few questions:
>
>1) What hardware do I need
>2) What are the highest speeds
>3) What is the cost
>4) What is the availability
>
>I live in southwest Florida, in a county of 100,000 people.  I just want
>to get internet access without tieing up the phone line.  Can someone
>please point me to a FAQ or URL with information torwards my goal.
>
>
>Thanks and if possible could you reply via e-mail because I'm no good at
>weeding through usenet ;)
>
>


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*  ROBERT W. WALKER, J.P. B.A.(Syd.)                            *
*  Amateur Radio Operator:- VK7KOB, ZL3TJP                      *
*  My saltmine= Advertising Contractor & Publisher              *
*  (when I'm not playing on Internet or Ham Radio)              *
*  P.O. Box 514,                                                *
*  Drummoyne, N.S.W. 2047,                                      *
*  AUSTRALIA.                                                   *

*  Phone [phone] (24 hrs)                                   *
*  International:- Country Code =61 Area Code=18  287 199       *
*  INTERNET:- [e-mail]                      *
*  "Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal"   *
*                               -: Professor William James.     *
*  I have NO connection with any other company or organisations *

*  and the opinions expressed herein are merely my own personal *
*  views..........                                              *
                                                 *
********************* END OF TEXT *******************************



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:27 1996
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From: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Kantronics Email or WWW.pages???
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 16:33:05 GMT
Organization: vk7kob
Lines: 42
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: @dialup001.canberra.dialix.com.au

Hi to all!
I am the proud owner of a new Kantronics KPC9612 TNC and am having
problems in getting it to operate in KISS mode for JNOS110 or whatever
else requires KISS mode for packet (BPQ code for example) It operates
wonderfully in standard AX25 mode but NOT in KISS mode. Have given it
the commands:- INTFACE KISS
                            RESET
and that doesn't wanna work.
I tried giving it the command INTFACE TERM
                                                   INTFACE KISS
                                                   RESET (in KAM
units, the RESET command just does a software reset whilst the command
RESTORE DEFAULTS does what a RESET in other TNC's does).

Anyway, I was hoping that some kind soul out there in INTERNET land
might know an email address for Mr Kantronics or his
http://www.xxx.xxx page/s if he has one so I can write him and pick
his brains thataway. Any ideas youve got re my problem would be most
definitely appreciated. Email me at the address below.
Thanks,

Best 73's de Bob


*****************************************************************
*  ROBERT W. WALKER, J.P. B.A.(Syd.)                            *
*  Amateur Radio Operator:- VK7KOB, ZL3TJP                      *
*  My saltmine= Advertising Contractor & Publisher              *
*  (when I'm not playing on Internet or Ham Radio)              *
*  P.O. Box 514,                                                *
*  Drummoyne, N.S.W. 2047,                                      *
*  AUSTRALIA.                                                   *

*  Phone [phone] (24 hrs)                                   *
*  International:- Country Code =61 Area Code=18  287 199       *
*  INTERNET:- [e-mail]                      *
*  "Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal"   *
*                               -: Professor William James.     *
*  I have NO connection with any other company or organisations *

*  and the opinions expressed herein are merely my own personal *
*  views..........                                              *
                                                 *
********************* END OF TEXT *******************************



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brad Moersfelder - Quad Tech Imaging R&D at 7869)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: What's mysterious FSK protocol on HF?
Date: 1 Feb 96 16:42:36 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
Lines: 6
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Originator: [e-mail]

On the HF bands I have run into a lot of 75 baud, 850 Hz shift digital
protocol thats not BAUDOT, ASCII, TOR, Packet, etc (any of the common
ham protocols).  It appears to be a synchronous protocol.  Does
any one know more about these signals, ie protocol, and content?

Brad


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:29 1996
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From: [e-mail](Rich B.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Hamcom
Date: 1 Feb 1996 16:51:59 GMT
Organization: Pipeline USA
Lines: 8
Message-ID: <4eqr3f$[e-mail]>
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X-PipeGCOS: (Rich B.)
X-Newsreader: Pipeline USA v3.4.0

Where can i locate Hamcom software for the PC.

KC2UM
[e-mail]
Email
--

Rich B.


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Terry Pridgen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: PK232 Operator Manual
Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:52:29 GMT
Organization: Pinnacle Online - Internet access for Hampton Roads, Virginia - 490-4509
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <4equkt$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: everest.pinn.net
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

Looking for a copy of a PK232 operator manual. I plan to purchase a
data controller in the future but would first like to learn about the
232 and others.  Please respond directly to my Email address.
73 KC4YTF
[e-mail]

--




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:31 1996
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From: Alan A. Tabourian <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet radio Projects... new advances research
Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:56:11 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Lines: 13
Message-ID: <4equrr$f15$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Hello Gary,

You mentionned that a 56kbs modem is available off-the-shelf from
PacCom.  Do you have their telephone number.  I would like to get
in touch with them.

Can you copy me in directly in addition to posting it on the net.
 I have trouble accessing usenet at time.

Many thanks,

Alan Tabourian
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:32 1996
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From: [e-mail](Dan Walker )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: New on packet. A few questions.
Date: 1 Feb 1996 19:43:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Lines: 30
Message-ID: <4er55u$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdx-ca11-10.ix.netcom.com
X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Feb 01 11:43:58 AM PST 1996

I don't use packet very often. Mostly I just check into the local
DX Cluster to see what's going on. I have a few questions about
using packet in general.

1. When I long into a BBS via packet, it is very slow. Sometime
it can take ten or fifteen minutes just to write a screen full of
data on the screen. The BBS offers several text files for downloading,
but if I take the time to download any of them, I will be on the board
for hours. Now, if everyone is in the same boat, no big deal. But I
always wonder if there is something wrong with my system, and that I'll
tie up the BBS and the packet freq. if I try to download.

2. Is it allowed to link up several digipeaters? I have heard that more
than a couple linked up really hogs the frequency, but I have also
heard of people linking up dozens of digipeaters to see how far they
can get, or to get into systems with special features.


3. I use Baycom, and I would like to buy a standard TNC and software to
replace it if it will make a difference in the response time. I have
heard Baycom works just as well as the others, just not as many
features. Is this true?


Thanks for your comments.

Dan





From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:33 1996
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From: Jim Irving
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: sstv program please
Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:54:01 GMT
Organization: New Zealand Online
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Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4er999$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp23.taranaki.ac.nz
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Conway Yee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Linux and packet.
Date: 02 Feb 1996 00:13:41 GMT
Organization: Medical Image Processing Group, U of Penn
Lines: 12
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: picard.mipg.upenn.edu

I am currently interested in getting into packet using my Linux box.
What is the cheapest way to get onto packet wrt the TNC?  Does a TNC
exist that is KISS mode only?  Is it safe to assume that the vast
majority of packet in the US is 1200 or should I plan on getting a
9600 TNC?

73 de Conway Yee, N2JWQ
--
                                  |       73 de Conway Yee, N2JWQ  | DON'T
                                  | EMAIL     : [e-mail] | TREAD
                                  | TELEPHONE :                    |  ON
                                  | FAX       :                    |  ME!


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:35 1996
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From: Charles Bolland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap;,rec.radio.amateur.antenna;,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Radio Broadcasting Database program
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 02:20:55 +0000
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (Win95; I)

Friend,

Freebie - a full function stand alone IBM compatible Radio Station
database program to anyone who is interested.  Contains 4,000 plus
records.  Sorts by name, freq, time, language, country, continent.

To get it send you POSTAL ADDRESS as well as you EMAIL address for
registration.  The program will be sent back to you within 24 hours
via EMAIL.  I may contact you(only me) in the future via Post with
information on other programs available.

Please send your request to [e-mail].

Hope to hear from you

Chuck Bolland
P.O. Box 18402
West Palm Beach, FL  33416

KA4PRF


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate
Subject: February edition of Ham Radio Online available on the Net
Date: 2 Feb 1996 03:27:46 GMT
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The February 1996 edition of Ham Radio Online is available at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

New articles are available now and we will be adding 1 to 2 new articles
each week.

Ham Radio Online has up-to-date news about Amateur Radio from around the world
,
feature stories, real-time propagation and auroral condition reports, real-tim
e
earthquake and severe weather conditions for emergency communications planning
,
online humor section and the Ham Radio Online Library with fully indexed (find
any section with just a mouse click) Part 97 rules and regulations.

And we plan to offer some totally cool new services during the coming month. A
s
always its free and free of ads.

Thanks to you, we had over 10,000 readers stop by during January!

Please enjoy!

73, Ed Mitchell
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[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:37 1996
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From: "Mr. Brooke Clarke" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: signal processing boards for the PC?
Date: 2 Feb 1996 06:05:56 GMT
Organization: Rack and Stack Systems
Lines: 12
Message-ID: <4es9k4$[e-mail]>
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I have the same question.  Some time ago I found a Creative Labs
developer group that required an admission fee, then would make available
software, but I could not find out what software I might get after I
joined.  I never joined.  If you find out let me know.

It is possible to record a signal and then go back using software like
WAVE from turtle beach and do time domain editing and/or filtering.  They
have a multipole digital filter.

Have Fun,
Brooke



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carl Hodder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: R1 mod wanted
Date: 2 Feb 1996 06:45:16 GMT
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Looking for the Icom R1 800 MHz mod. Heard of the 800 MHz of the R7100
but not the R1.

E-mail [e-mail]

Thanks, Carl.



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (S. Sampson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: ?? Novell ethernet cards under NOS?
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:32:19
Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc.
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Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A]

[e-mail] writes:

>A friend is trying to get a Novell ethernet card working under nos. It is mad
e by
>Anthem (Assy. *810-160-00x)  and is setup as per the NetWare Installation
>Supplement. The cards work fine under Windoze.
>He is using the folloing batch file line to load the driver:
>ne1000 0x60 2 0x340

>and this under nos:
>attach packet 0x60 ec0 8 1500


>The problem which he is having is that it comes up with Failed RX upcalls whe
n
>recieving packets. Does anyone know what might be causing the problem?

I assume you are running NOS as a Windows application.  If so, you need to als
o
run winpkt (or whatever it's called, I forget) or possibly the -w flag on
driver load.

What this does is move the driver to high memory, instead of having it floatin
g
all over the place as Windows pages.

Just a guess...



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Karl Medcalf (WK5M))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: tnc cable for HTX-202?
Date: 2 Feb 1996 13:18:49 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct Communications - Lawrence, Ks - [phone]
Lines: 43
Message-ID: <4et2vp$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7

In article <4esa3g$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Sorry, I'm sure you get this note once a month, but...
>
>Anyone know how to make a Realistic HTX-202 to TNC Cable?
>
>HTX-202 has
>
>MIC TIP
>MIC
>
>SPK TIP
>SPK
>
>------
>TNC has
>
>PTT
>AF OUT (to mic in)
>AF IN (to recvr spkr)
>GND
>
>-------------
>
>The tnc is a Heath HK-21 pocket packet.
>
>Pete, the electronics neophyte.
>
>

Hello Pete.

Check out the TNC-Radio wiring diagrams at
http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire/

The HK-21 is there as is the HTX-202 and many others.

--
73, Karl                Internet: [e-mail]
                        Packet:   WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM
*****  The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not *****
  *****       necessarily reflect those of my employer!        *****



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:42 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HELP! TEN-TEC Omni-VI / PK-232 Audio distortion
Date: 2 Feb 1996 13:24:19 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
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Message-ID: <4et3a3$[e-mail]>
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With most Amateur radio equipment today the problem is not poor decoupling
but the accessory input is high impedance, this provided no loading and no
path to ground for thr prevailing RF that is in the radio room.  Using the
mic input which is usually 600 ohms or FSK connections are the prefered
methods of connnecting external devices.  Some times you might try a
matching transformer in the audio circuit it hekps on Yaesus radios.

The 600 ohm mic input generally willlprovide a sufficent load to the
incoming TNC audio, and inpressed RF will usually go to ground.

Gary



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HamCom Experience
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 14:27:38 GMT
Organization: Consolidated Communications Incorporated
Lines: 19
Message-ID: <4et6h0$[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] (Bill Jones) wrote:

>I recently downloaded a copy of HamCom (version 3.0) and am impressed with it
s
>elegance and feature-rich menu.  Although I have been a ham for 41 years, I
>have no prior experience with any of the digital modes such as RTTY and
>AMTOR.  I have been a CW operator exclusively.  Is HamCom a good way for an
>old geezer to get his feet wet?  Any experience with this software, both pro
>and con, would be appreciated.
Hi Bill.  Did you get the email response I sent to you?  Fairly
detailed response.  Hamcomm works VERY well.  The key is filtering.
Without tight filtering, it won't work - period.  Using a 270 hz
filter, it gives nearly perfect copy, almost as good as my tu.  If you
have to build an audio-type filter, I would recommend you skip the
op-amp designs and go to an SCF chip like the Nat. Semiconductor MF10.
I can send you the data sheet if you want it (abt 15 pages, adobe
format).  You have my email address and phone number, please feel free
to get in touch with me.  A month ago, I was where you are right now.
73, Mark (N9HCI)     [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:46 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: White Pages Server
Date: 2 Feb 96 15:01:33 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: [e-mail]

Hello All,

I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the
nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that was
a while back. Thanks for you help.

73 de N0KTB -- Adam
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Kantronics Email or WWW.pages???
Date: 2 Feb 1996 15:08:06 GMT
Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado
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In article <[e-mail]>,
>Anyway, I was hoping that some kind soul out there in INTERNET land
>might know an email address for Mr Kantronics

http://www.kantronics.com/

--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Postal Address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA
email:            [e-mail]
KaWin Home Page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
KaWin FTP Site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Bunney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC/Comm Port problem
Date: 2 Feb 1996 15:34:36 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
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Message-ID: <4etauc$[e-mail]>
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Keywords: Help!!
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My PK-96(TNC) has recently stopped communicating with the comm port on my
286 desktop. Now when I turn my TNC on, my cursor moves over one space
instead of displaying the welcome message that scrolls onto the screen.
I have checked cables, comm boards, port settings, etc.  I did take the
TNC to work and connect it to one of the computers there and it worked
just fine.  I tried another computer and it failed on that one.  The only
common thread to the comm boards that failed was the UARL chip set.  The
TNC seems to work fine on the "16550's" but fails on the "8250" chip.
Has anyone experienced a similar problem?

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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Wilbert Knol)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HamCom Experience
Date: 02 Feb 1996 16:47:58 +1300
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[e-mail] (Steve Kelly) wrote:

>I built the modem as per the circuit that came with the HamCom software
>and found that it was almost useless.Using a single opamp to change a signal

>to a square wave especially on hf is not the way to go.I have since seen an
>update to this circuit but have not tried it myself.Prehaps this modem was
>included so people could evaluate the software.I understand the genuine modem
>(as supplied by HamCom?) is a little more sophisticated.Has anyone else been
>down this road?

I have had no trouble with the HAMCOM interface at all. Check the
power supply levels to make sure the handshake lines in the serial
port have the muscle to supply the OPAMP (I used the TL071).

It is quite possible to destroy OPMAMPs by taking inputs beyond the
supply levels. Since it is used in open loop mode, rather like a
comperator, you shouldn't have to use much RX audio at all to get it
to work, the ACC socket on the IC725 drives it nicely.

HAMCOM 3.0 is going great, with the exception of CW (use your
ears). Definetely the way to get started on RTTY and ANTOR in my
opinion. Or you could try your hand at HF weather fax with JVFAX 7.1.

Wilbert, ZL2BSJ
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NIWA (Marine Research) Wellington, New Zealand.




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: TNC/Comm Port problem
Date: 2 Feb 1996 16:52:49 GMT
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In article <4etauc$[e-mail]>,
Mike Bunney <[e-mail]> wrote:

>My PK-96(TNC) has recently stopped communicating with the comm port on my
>286 desktop. Now when I turn my TNC on, my cursor moves over one space
>instead of displaying the welcome message that scrolls onto the screen.
>I have checked cables, comm boards, port settings, etc.  I did take the
>TNC to work and connect it to one of the computers there and it worked
>just fine.  I tried another computer and it failed on that one.  The only
>common thread to the comm boards that failed was the UARL chip set.  The
>TNC seems to work fine on the "16550's" but fails on the "8250" chip.
>Has anyone experienced a similar problem?
>
>Mike Bunney

Hi Mike.

First check the i/o baud rate in the TNC, if it is over 9600, it will not
work thru an UART 8250...maximum is 9600. If it is set to 9600, and you
have a DOS machine, type "MODE COM1: 9600,E,7,1" then enter. This will
let DOS configure the port...in this case...to 9600 baud with even parity,
7 data bits, and 1 stop bit(s).

All I can think of...hope it helps, & good luck.   :)



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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: HELP!  Wireless networking!
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In article <4eohhr$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Lin Shawn R) write
s:
>Hi!  I know nothing about amateur radio but I recently read about "packet
>radio".  All I really know about it is it's typically only about 1200
>baud and functions kind of like a modem but instead of using the phone
>lines it uses airwaves.  I am VERY interested in this because I have two
>computers, one at my girlfriend's apartment about 3.6 miles away and I
>want to network them together.  ISDN is WAY too expensive, and dedicated
>phone line costs rack up.  Wireless networking sounds like a really cool
>thing to do... can I do it with packet radio?  I am needing something
>that is full-duplex (asynchronous)... or at least looks like full-duplex
>to the computer, and it needs to support some kind of networking scheme,
>like TCP/IP (which I've read packet radio can do).  Most importantly, I
>need a MINIMUM speed of 14.4k to be tolerable, preferably faster if
>possible.  Is this possible?  If so, what are the costs of all the
>equipment and other stuff?  What are the drawbacks?  Benefits (besides
>being wireless)?  Please let me know!  I am very excited about the
>possiblity of a wireless connection.

Yes, you can run TCP/IP over packet, and yes you can better telco
14.4kb throughput with the WA4DSY 56 kb RF modem. The effective
throughput is about 4 kilobytes a second, IE about equal to a
28.8 kb telco link. Unfortunately, the cost of two stations is
going to run about $1200. You could do 9600 baud *half* duplex for
less, around $800 for two stations, but effective throughput is
similar to 2400 baud duplex telco modems.

I expect operating over the telco lines is going to be cheaper.
It should be a toll free call if the distance is only 3.6 miles,
unless you're unfortunate enough to be located across a toll
boundary, or are stuck with metered service. Otherwise you're
just looking at $22 a month for a dialup line at each end
and a pair of telco modems (28.8kb telco modems are now as
cheap as $149 each). You don't need a dedicated pair, that
gets expensive. Just use a dial up and leave it dialed up,
or set it up to dial on demand.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:53 1996
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From: "Thomas M. Allen" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TNC2 PCB layouts
Date: 2 Feb 1996 19:21:40 GMT
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[e-mail] (David J Linsley) wrote:
>does anyone know where I can get images of the pcb layouts for a tnc2 eg
>a BSX2, G8STW, TNC2DL etc?

I thought I had seen them posted at the tapr site (www.tapr.org).  If not
there, then available by mail.

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Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:54 1996
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Type SSTV in a search engine in your web browser and you will
find more sstv programs than you can ever use.

73 Hank WA5JRH



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> And what's usually happening on the channel is congestive collapse.
> It's a *very bad* idea to run mixed speeds on the same channel.
> Some idiot will be running a 1200 baud only TNC, and it won't
> sense the other speeds, and there goes the channel.

> Gary

Here in Europe we don't have the resources the USA amateurs have. Like
only 2 MHz on 144, no 220 MHz, only 10 (6 within some time) MHz at 430 MHz.

Sharing modes is the only way.

An idiot using a 1200 bd TNC which only detects 1200 bs traffic is not
only antisocial, but also illegal : there is a big chance he is distubing
other traffic. Most packet operators keep the audio switched off. What if
by some glitch the transmitter turns to the local phone chat frequency
and goes on transmitting over a current conversation ?

Joop, pe1dna



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From: [e-mail] (Carlos Blanco)
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Subject: INFORMATION about TNC's Equipments (Maximun Speed)
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From: [e-mail] (Carlos Blanco)
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Please, I need to Know about TNC's maximun speed, Types & models, and prices.
Also where I can buy them.

It's possible to find a 19200 or 28800 TNC packet modem for 2m or 430MHz?

 Thanks,Carlos EB1DRN



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:57 1996
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From: Hans Devreij <[e-mail]>
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Yep, it used to drive me nuts when I started monitoring RTTY. I soon
found out this is a scrambled NATO system (typical shifts are 840, 844 or
850 hz). You'll find it all over the HF spectrum and don't even DREAM of
getting any legible results. Same applies to many Russian RTTY systems,
such as the one with a 81 Baud speed and small shift.
You may also come across 75Bd systems with a shift of about 400 Hz which
will be legible only some of the time (fregs a.o. 7804, 9044). This is a
diplomatic network; scrambled messages are preceded my a string of
numbers followed by xyxyxyxy, xpxpxpxp or other 'x' strings, after which
the scrambling begins.



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:58 1996
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From: Daniel Blanco <[e-mail]>
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Subject: TNCs INFORMATION NEEDED !!!!!
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Please I need to know about TNC's maximum speed, Types,models & Prices.
Also, some addresses where I can buy them.

It's possible to find a TNC with a baud rate more or equal to 14400 for
144MHz (2m) or 430MHz?



                 Thanks & greetings .... Carlos from Spain


Please, reply me at [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:35:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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On 1 Feb 96 [e-mail] (Brad Moersfelder) wrote:

>On the HF bands I have run into a lot of 75 baud, 850 Hz shift digital
>protocol thats not BAUDOT, ASCII, TOR, Packet, etc (any of the common
>ham protocols).  It appears to be a synchronous protocol.  Does
>any one know more about these signals, ie protocol, and content?

What you describe sounds like encrypted (aka 'crypto') military
traffic.  If so, you can forget about decoding it - it's simply not
possible without the correct key and equipment.

73 -

de Mike (TA2ZG/W2AV)     Remote Sysop TA2EM BBS - first PRBBS in Turkiye
Amateur Packet Radio:    TA2ZG@TA2EM.#IST.TUR.EU
Internet (email only):   Michael C. McHugh <[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: tcm 3105 chip
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In <[e-mail]> fiz <[e-mail]> writes:

>Robellio%12:250/104 wrote:
>>
>> can any one help (i do not need an address of where i can get one)
>>                 is there anyone who has one they want to sell me
>>

>JDR Microdevices. $8.95, no minimum order. The crystal you'll be asking
>for next is available from Jameco Electronics ($25 min order?). Both have
>800 #'s and both have Web pages (www.jdr.com and www.jameco.com?).

It will be interesting to see how long it takes before it becomes
a "difficult to get" item, now that TI has taken the device out of
production.
(at least that was announced to happen last year)

Rob
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Getting Internet Access via Packet/HAM Radio
Reply-To: [e-mail]
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In <[e-mail]> vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robe
rt Walker) writes:

[explanation about needing a license for amateur radio]

>It IS the ONLY hobby in the world for which you need a government
>license..........

Maybe in your country, but certainly not in the world.
I think there are quite some countries where you need licenses for
posessing and using fire arms (shooting, hunting), flying aircraft
or balloons, etc. etc.

Rob
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:03 1996
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i couldn't find a FAQ for this newsgroup.  rtfm.mit.edu has a
FAQ for this newsgroup, but it is only a guide to radio groups
in general.

i've been wanting to learn about radio packet networks for
years now, but the info is somewhat arcane, and i see no resources
for the absolute newbie.


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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:04 1996
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From: Dave Skarbowski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Linux and Digital modes: my experience
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From time to time I see messages posted requesting information on terminal pro
grams available
for Linux.  I'd like to start a thread on Linux and packet (or rtty, or anythi
ng else to do
with Linux and hamradio).  So far here is what I have tried:

1.  The AX25 kernel support.  Works great!  I have kernel version 1.3.59 (+pat
ch) with all the
latest AX25 tools and I must say it works great.  We have a local tcp/ip net o
n two meters
witha POP server for mail.  Even Netscape works great for retrieving POP mail
over AX25.

2.  TNOS.  Also works great but just the plain old AX25 tools and AX25 kernel
support seems to
give me the features I like.  I don't want to be a BBS and that's where TNOS s
hines.

3.  RTTY.  This was a tough one.  I really like XPKAM under dos for HF RTTY an
d Pactor.  I
couldn't find anything for RTTY in a native Unix port.  Enter DOSEMU.  I final
ly gave in and
tried the latest and greatest DOSEMU.  It works!  XPKAM (and other terminal pr
gs) work pretty
well under DOSEMU with some trial and error parameter setting.  I find I need
to set DOSEMU's
hogthreshhold to 0.  This makes the rest of X slow but still usable.  I guess
if you run from
the Linux prompt this doesn't matter.

4.  Could I also run Windows terminal programs?  Enter WINE.  OK, I have not h
ad much success
with WINE.  Runs solitare real nice but all else is still pretty rough.  Shows
 a lot of
promise.  I just downloaded the latest source....dated Jan 31, 96.  I have yet
 to give it a
try.

So, what have you tried?  I've got a ton of programs to try on the DOSEMU.  Lo
g programs, sat
tracking programs, etc.  I'll try more WINE (after 12:00 pm...but I perfer bee
r).  I still
have to try the PMS that comes with the AX25 tools.  There's only so much time
 in a day to
hack...

Dave, n2fam


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Steven Sampson)
Subject: RE: Can J/TNOS for Linux run without a terminal?
Date: 3 Feb 96 14:02:41 -0800
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>Is there a Unix version of J/TNOS (or some easy hack) that allows this
>program to be started at boot time and run in the background? I hate
>having to start it and waste a terminal (even a virtual one!).

Just start it the way every other unix is started.  In rc.local put
in a line like:

su - jnos -c nos

Just make an account called jnos, and have the files in its home
directory.

Steve



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Benton StJ Bonney)
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[e-mail] (Carlyle Gerde) wrote:

>[...]
>[...] MARS currently has a mailing
>list but a news group would be better.

>73...N9NWO

What is the mailing list's name and LISTSERV's address?

73 de Benton, KO4XE/AFA2CJ




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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (
Scott\, G.R. \,  Cundiff) writes:
>I am interested in getting some feedback from some of you who have been
>active on APRS in your area.  Several of the local guys are running APRS.
>They beacon constantly, like every 10 or 15 minutes.  They beacon via WIDE,
>APRS, APRSM, GPS, and other paths.  They want all the area nodes to be set
>up with alternate aliases of WIDE, etc. so their beacons are repeated all
>over the country side.
>
>Now, I understand that these beacons have to happen so their locations will
>show up on everyone's APRS maps, but I can't understand why they have to
>beacon their house position 4 or more times an hour!  Surely their house
>isn't going anywhere!  For mobile weather spotters, this is a great idea,
>but for home operation surely a beacon once every 2 hours (or every 20 years
>for that matter! -- just kidding on that one) is often enough.

The reason a fixed location needs to beacon is so that new stations
coming up on the net will learn the location of the fixed station.
Now the question becomes, how long do we want a new station to have
to wait before its map is fully updated?  Obviously, beaconing once
every 20 years is out of the question, is two hours out of the question
too? Maybe, if the net is "leaky". Remember, these are UI frames, they
can easily be lost or corrupted, so several beacon transmissions may be
necessary before there's a reasonable assurance that all monitoring
stations on the net have copied it successfully.

On a simplex network that extends beyond the local radio horizon,
each hop's success probability has to be multiplied by the proability
of success for each of the other hops to get a pass thru probability.
Suppose each link has a 0.8 probability of success for any given
beacon. A net with 4 links will only have a 41% probability of
successfully transferring any given beacon. So you'll need slightly
more than two attempts to have a reasonable assurance of success.
If you want maps to update within a half hour, you'll have to beacon
every 15 minutes, if you'll accept a wait of 2 hours to update a
new station's map, then beaconing once an hour will do, etc.

For a closed network, where all the stations are always present
24x7, fixed stations needn't beacon at all, but that's a rather
uninteresting use of APRS. A paper map would do as well. By nature,
APRS maps are dynamic, the question becomes how dynamic should
they be? I don't have a good answer. I'd suggest "it depends"
is probably the only appropriate answer.

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY?
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In article <4eu0sc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:
>> And what's usually happening on the channel is congestive collapse.
>> It's a *very bad* idea to run mixed speeds on the same channel.
>> Some idiot will be running a 1200 baud only TNC, and it won't
>> sense the other speeds, and there goes the channel.
>> Gary
>
>Here in Europe we don't have the resources the USA amateurs have. Like
>only 2 MHz on 144, no 220 MHz, only 10 (6 within some time) MHz at 430 MHz.
>
>Sharing modes is the only way.
>
>An idiot using a 1200 bd TNC which only detects 1200 bs traffic is not
>only antisocial, but also illegal : there is a big chance he is distubing
>other traffic. Most packet operators keep the audio switched off. What if
>by some glitch the transmitter turns to the local phone chat frequency
>and goes on transmitting over a current conversation ?
>Joop, pe1dna

Yeah, good point, and a reason for RF DCD. But if the transmitter
glitches and comes up on the local chat frequency it will still
make life miserable for the phone ops since it'll try to send packets
between their transmissions.

I toyed with a varient of this problem a while back. I had a low usage
voice repeater that I wanted to share with 9600 baud packet. Carrier
sense was adequate to keep the packet system from transmitting over
voice users, but didn't solve the problem of voice users having to listen
to the packets, or the problem of voice users transmitting over packets,
or the problem of the packet system being held off by the repeater tail.

I came up with a scheme using CTCSS so that the voice receivers would be
muted when packets were sent, IE voice users used one CTCSS tone, packet
stations another, and the repeater regenerated either depending on what
was on its input at the time. So if voice users used CTCSS decode on the
voice tone, they wouldn't have to hear the packets, which transmitted a
different tone. If the voice CTCSS was detected by a packet station, it
would honor the carrier sense line and obey the tail. As long as voice
users didn't allow the repeater to drop, no packets would be sent that
would delay their conversation. But if the packet station detected a
packet CTCSS, it could respond immediately on the cessation of the tone,
so that the long tail delay didn't slow packet usage of the machine when
voice users weren't present.

This doesn't address the problem of voice users keying up over a packet,
though a decoder could be used on the voice radios to prevent them from
keying when a packet CTCSS was detected (I figured that was too clumsy).
It does give the voice user priority, which is probably best since voice
usage is usually realtime while most of packet operation is not.

I eventually gave up on the idea for two reasons. First, voice usage
of the repeater became heavier, and second, getting packet operators
to install CTCSS and honor it proved to be a difficult political problem.
As I mentioned previously, it only takes one non-conforming station to
seriously degrade the entire system. (A technical problem was the
packet CTCSS tone degrading packet demodulation.)

Fortunately, we here in the US *do* have adequate spectrum to segregate
various uses on their own channels.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:12 1996
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From: "Tony Clifford, ei9hk" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Kantronics Email or WWW.pages???
Date: 3 Feb 1996 18:04:15 GMT
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Hi Robert, I also have a kp9612 and would be interested in hearing about an em
ail address for
kantronics.  Have u managed to get 9k6 working on it??  I have failed and got
no reply to my fax
for help.!!

Tony  ei9hk,Cork,ireland.



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
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Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 18:30:35 GMT
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On 1 Feb 1996 23:56:14 GMT, Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
wrote:


>3) using a VOICE rptr channel for packet is poor spectrum
>usage...it would be wasting a rptr channel that voice users could
>use...

Oh sure and everyone knows that all the voice repeaters are SOOOOOO
busy with important stuff and all.

Putting a packet repeater on the wasteland of idle voice machines
sounds like a great idea. And it's totally legal as well. You'll have
a ton of trouble with the ol' boyz repeater co-ordination clubs
though.

-be



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:14 1996
From: [e-mail] (Frank Hoonhout)
Subject: RE: Paket for Windows
Date: 3 Feb 96 22:20:19 -0800
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If you have a kantronics type unit. You might want to look at kawin

http:\\www.mutadv.com\kawin\

Frank...
kj7dz
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Subich)
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Subject: Re: White Pages Server
Date: 4 Feb 1996 00:26:37 GMT
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In message <[e-mail]> - ayoun
g
@ksu.ksu.EDU writes:
:>
:>Hello All,
:>
:>I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the
:>nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that was
:>a while back. Thanks for you help.
:>
:>73 de N0KTB -- Adam
:>[e-mail]
:>

Good memory!  Actually, I haven't supported the White Pages for about two
years now.  A new job and relocation took me out of the packet forwarding
mess.  When I shut down operations all of the master WP files were turned
over to K1LT who had agreed to continue support for the function.

WP @ K1LT.#CMH.OH.USA.NA should get you there ...

Unfortunately, at the time I was moving there were a lot of "Global WP
Server" pretenders out there and the new lack of discipline in auto-
forwarding opeations have only made that situation worse.  Some pretend
Global WP Servers have even been known to grab inquiries not addresses
to them, answer with old or incorrect data, and kill the inquiry!

73 & good luck,

    ... Joe Subich, AD8I
        ([e-mail])



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dustin Moore)
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Subject: Re: White Pages Server
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 01:06:13 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Hello All,

>I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the
>nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that was
>a while back. Thanks for you help.


For W0RLI style BBS systems (AD8I's replacement)

[e-mail]



Dustin Moore [e-mail] http://www.teleport.com/~moore



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Mains)
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Visit our new home page:

http://www.jaxnet.com/nf4l/nfdxa.htm

73's

Dave....NO4J




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kim A. Hinceman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet BBS Listing needed for SC and NC
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I would like to find a listing of packet bbs systems in SC and NC. Any ideas?

Tnx,

WA4VKW
Kim A. Hinceman
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jay O'Brien - W6GO)
Subject: BPQ - Net/Rom matrix problems
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   Are you using the VE2BMQ RS-232 Timeout Timer (from Amateur
Networking Supply) between a G8BPQ node and a NetRom diode matrix?
If so, read on.  This may apply to you!

   The timer does a great job of disconnecting the computer from the
matrix either when the computer is not active or if the computer
crashes.  The timer doesn't protect you from all possible computer
failures, however!

   K6ANP has a "node stack" which provides user connects to a distant
PacketCluster node (W6GO).  He runs G8BPQ in a local computer to
provide a local connect path and for administrative purposes.  He
uses a VE2BMQ timer.  All was working fine until he shut off his
computer.  Then, nothing would go through his matrix and his TNCs
couldn't communicate with each other through his matrix.

   The computer, when powered down, effectively shorted its data input
lead to ground.  The diodes in the matrix then clamped the data level
to less than a volt, and no data went across the matrix!  The VE2BMQ
timer protects the matrix from input from the computer, but it
doesn't interrupt the lead which carrys data to the computer.  You
wouldn't want it to!

   All that was necessary to correct the problem was to place a
resistor in series with the data input lead to the computer.
Experimentally it was found that 300 ohms (in this particular case)
allowed data to pass to the computer and when the computer was off,
allowed the data to pass between other TNCs on the matrix.  This
value works fine even at the K6ANP matrix speed of 38400 bps.

   A similar test here showed the data level also pulled down, but
apparently not enough to be a problem.  The situation seems to be
hardware specific and may be different for each application.

   The bottom line is:  If you connect a BPQ computer to a NetRom
matrix through a VE2BMQ timer,  be sure to see what happens to your
matrix when the computer is powered down and still connected.  You
may be suprised!

   73, Jay
       [e-mail]

cc:K6ANP
   N2IRZ (ANS)

--


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From: [e-mail] (Laz Qadmon)
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Subject: Radio Rock-It , anyone tried it???
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CUE Corp in league with Advanced Digital Systems has implemented a
method of receiving National Weather Service weather maps.
The FM radio PC card will be capable of receiving an FM subcarrier
containing the NWS data for display in graphical form.

My question is has anyone tried this? What software is required and
where can it be obtained. What model of Rock-It is used to do this?

How good a product is Radio Rock-It?

73's Laz



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:21 1996
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From: Christophe Suarez <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Does Winlink support HF/VHF X-connect?
Date: 4 Feb 1996 13:42:59 GMT
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WinLink is not a real gateway software, it is used to forward messages
from HF to VHF/UHF and reciproqually and somebody who links an
HF pactor port for example can't link the packet VHF port. Bulletins
are shared and can be read from any port.

73 de Chris [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Putting a packet repeater on the wasteland of idle voice machines
>sounds like a great idea. And it's totally legal as well. You'll have
>a ton of trouble with the ol' boyz repeater co-ordination clubs
>though.

Depends. SERA treats a repeater as a repeater (as they should).
Whether you want to use it for voice or data is purely the owner's
option. Now getting a *new* 2 meter repeater of *any* sort coordinated
can be difficult or impossible in some areas, but there's plenty of
open coordinations available on other bands. When I originally
coordinated my 70 cm machine, it was listed as *mixed* data and
voice usage. I later changed that to just voice, but that was *my*
decision, not SERA's. There's a 2 meter data repeater here in
Atlanta on 146.73 that used to be a voice machine but was converted
by its owner to be strictly packet. SERA only coordinates *frequencies*
for repeaters, what you use the repeater for is your business.

Well, that may be changing a bit. SERA now has pairs set aside
strictly for data, no voice machines allowed there. That's a new
part of the revised 70 cm bandplan. But as far as I know (and I'm
a SERA member) no use of nominally voice pairs for data has ever
been denied by SERA. The intent of the new bandplan is to make
sure some channels for data repeater use will be available and
won't be usurped by voice repeaters.

A repeater is a repeater, whether it carries voice or data, and
must operate in the repeater segments of the bands. SERA coordinates
all pairs in the repeater segments impartially. Simplex packet is
a thornier problem. That usage takes place in what has traditionally
been uncoordinated spectrum. SERA has opted to work with State packet
organizations to deal with this. Each State's packet group is allowed
to act as coordinator for simplex packet.

That's been rather informal in some areas, better formalized in others.
The problems of simplex packet coordination are quite a bit different
than repeater coordination because of the shared nature of simplex
packet channels. In a real sense, every packet user's station is a
digipeater. The approach the Georgia packet organization has taken
is to authorize LAN frequencies by geography rather than dealing with
individual stations. One designated node in each LAN then is authorized
to operate on the State 56 kb backbone to relay packets from one LAN
to another. That node is selected by the members of the local LAN
in consultation with the State group's technical committee. The
State group's "members" *are* the local LANs, IE each LAN appoints
two representatives to the State group.

That works pretty well, and tends to limit users from hopping from
one frequency to another, thanks to the geographical separation. They
stay put in their LANs and work out-of-LAN stations via the network
node in their LAN. That makes issues of routing much easier because
the network knows where to find any given station based on cluster
routing statements. At least it does if they use TCP/IP, the routers
are based on TCP/IP routing. The network nodes require source routing
if used for non-TCP/IP traffic, IE the user has to know the path
to the other station if he isn't using TCP/IP, the network can't help
him with the routing in that case.

I added code to Karn's NET (which was the basis of our original router
code) that was called "mulport". It attempted to aid the non-TCP/IP
user in navigating the State network by allowing him to only include
the destination LAN node's call sign in the digipeat field. The network
would then route (based on tables) the message from the local LAN to
the distant LAN. It worked, but we've abandoned that as too clumsy to
maintain. Now the user can use TCP/IP or Netrom routing, or hop from
LAN to LAN KAnode style via the AX25 interface of the routers.

Our repeater based LANs are using "side mounted" interfaces to the
network, IE they have a wired tap from the repeater data stream to
a co-located network routing node. That's not necessary, just convienent.
The network node could be anywhere in the repeater LAN's coverage and
work the same way.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Kantronics Email or WWW.pages???
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <4f082v$[e-mail]> "Tony Clifford, ei9hk" <[e-mail]
> writes:
>Hi Robert, I also have a kp9612 and would be interested in hearing about an e
mail address for
>kantronics.  Have u managed to get 9k6 working on it??  I have failed and got
 no reply to my fax
>for help.!!

The web page for Kantronics is www.kantronics.com, but there isn't
much there except Email addresses for sales and support.

What *exactly* seems to be the difficulty with 9600 baud? I have the
KPC-9612 and it works fine with the *proper radio*. That's the key
to 9600 baud success. Most amateur radios just won't work right for
9600 baud packet. Either their Rx bandpass is hosed, or they have
poor TR and receiver recovery times, or the PLL loop *cancels* part
of the 9600 baud modulation.

To work, the radio needs

1) True FM modulation (no phase modulators)

2) No PLL in the modulating loop (crystal control or IF modulation only)

3) Flat phase response in the receive IF filter (usually means a *wider*
   than stock filter to achieve this since filters get very phase non-
   linear near their edges)

4) Fast diode switched TR (though reed relays can be fast enough too)

5) Fast receiver recovery (really really important, and often overlooked)

6) A way to tap *directly* into the modulator and demodulator bypassing
   all audio processing circuits

Only a few radios meet these criteria fully. Many that *advertise*
9600 baud capability lack some of these important criteria, and won't
actually work properly. A couple that do work properly are the Tekk KS900
and the Azden PCS9600D. The IC820H will sort of work, but you need to open
up the IF bandpass for it to work well. Ex-commercial service radios like
the Motorola Micor and RCA Tac700 can be adapted to 9600 baud too, though
you usually have to open up the IF filtering. GE radios are phase modulated,
so you have to fix that to convert them to 9600, but that isn't hard, just
use the Channel Guard input. Again, the IF filters are too tight and need
to be opened up.

In addition to the above, Kantronics and MFJ now offer crystal controlled
radios designed specifically for 9600 baud data service. They work well
as data radios, but they don't work quite so well as *radios*, IE they
croak when put on a high RF site. If you stack enough cavities in front
of them, you can usually make them work.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Howard Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Linux and Digital modes: my experience
Date: 4 Feb 1996 17:45:47 GMT
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On Sat, 03 Feb 1996 12:05:10 -0500, Dave Skarbowski <[e-mail]> wrote:
 : From time to time I see messages posted requesting information on terminal
programs available
 : for Linux.  I'd like to start a thread on Linux and packet (or rtty, or any
thing else to do
 : with Linux and hamradio).  So far here is what I have tried:

...

For around 6 months I had my linux box attached to a TNC in
transparent mode.  This is the simplest (albeit least flexible) way to
put linux on packet.

To make it work for the typicial packet user I had to patch n_tty.c to
do the \n to \r conversions.

As part of the deal I have everyone's .procmailrc pointing back to my
account so I can vet the incoming mails for rules compliance.

A couple of weeks ago I replaced linux with FreeBSD on that box, in
much the same configuration (except the \n to \r conversion patch was
applied to tty.c).  It works a little better only because the FreeBSD
getty sees the CD transition to TRUE so the login prompt comes up when
someone connects.  Probably could have done something more
sophisticated with mgetty on linux but never got around to it.

--
Howard Goldstein              <[e-mail]>     http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx
/



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Corteville)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Contact for TCP/IP address in Detroit?
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 19:24:17 GMT
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I'm trying to figure out who to contact for a TCP/IP address in the
Detroit, Michigan area.  Also, on what frequency does TCP/IP packet
operations normally take place?  Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.

Greg Corteville - KB8WFV
Internet: [e-mail]
SysOp Horizons BBS: [phone]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Revised Pages for Feb
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 22:31:49 GMT
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I have revised and revamped for Feb:

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

to include packet radio amongst other things.  The pages have useful
links and an enlarged Q and A page. There are useful links and a new
IRC link to #HamRadio. Try the other pages too.

Thanks to all who have visited so far. I have replied to all e-mail
received. It has been very encouraging,

Check it out!

73 de


Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Homepages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
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Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City
Date: 4 Feb 1996 23:21:25 -0500
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In <[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Donald I. Baker) writes:

>Technical solutions do exist.  Using a "TX-ID" board, which uniquely
>fingerprints each transmitter and a PC one can "slectively" include or
>preclude individual users.
>
>The board was not meant for that purpose, but with just a little Basic of C
>codes, it workd just fine.  It is especially easy if you have a single or
>limited number of receive site.

I too can attest to the helpfulness of the TX-ID system. Coupled with our
Doppler Systems DF gear, the TX-ID has allowed us to bag several Drew-like
scumbags here in the RI area who have no appreciation for Part 97.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: packet with commodore 64
Date: 5 Feb 1996 01:36:01 GMT
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Is there hardware and software available for running packet on the
Commodore 64?
I've heard that MFJ makes a TNC and that Digicom64 is the software of
choice. Where can I download digicom64?

Thanks KE4WIS


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Markus Lenggenhager)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 08:08:16 GMT
Organization: PHILIPS Semiconductors
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>In article <4eu0sc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:
>>> And what's usually happening on the channel is congestive collapse.
>>> It's a *very bad* idea to run mixed speeds on the same channel.
>>> Some idiot will be running a 1200 baud only TNC, and it won't
>>> sense the other speeds, and there goes the channel.
>>> Gary
>>
>>Here in Europe we don't have the resources the USA amateurs have. Like
>>only 2 MHz on 144, no 220 MHz, only 10 (6 within some time) MHz at 430 MHz.
>>
>>Sharing modes is the only way.
>>

There's a solution to this problem, it's called DAMA!
I'm sysop of a TheNet Node digipeater running a dual-speed (1200/9600)
user port on UHF, using a single TRX, but of course 2 modems.
Works fine for over a year now. Both 1200 and 9600 users are happy
with the system.

73, Markus [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Need UTAH for WAS-RTTY
Date: 5 Feb 1996 13:10:58 GMT
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Terry Dunlap, AC6EF ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Utah is the last state I need for WAS-RTTY.  Anyone interested in making
> a sked......week-ends better!

> Please send any responses via EMAIL.

> 73 de Terry AC6EF
> [e-mail]

Me too! Me too!  (Actually, will accept email from UT, WV, DE, VT, and SD
also).

--
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Where find DOMAIN.TXT for JNOS?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 14:12:04 GMT
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Not serious yet about tcp/ip but would like to take a look at jnos.
It won't come up, looking for a DOMAIN.TXT .  Can't find it on the
net. Thanks in advance.  Mark Walker (N9HCI) [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:37 1996
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From: Mark A Phillips <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Where find DOMAIN.TXT for JNOS?
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In article <4f52no$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Mark Walker" writes:

> Not serious yet about tcp/ip but would like to take a look at jnos.
> It won't come up, looking for a DOMAIN.TXT .  Can't find it on the
> net. Thanks in advance.  Mark Walker (N9HCI) [e-mail]
>
>
A domain.txt file should be in you jnos directory.

It is made up of all your local IP addresses and is referenced when you wish
to talk to someone.

At the very least you should have your own entry in it eg;

g7ltt.ampr.org.         IN      A       44.131.159.228

This means that the callsign g7ltt (me) has an INternet class A address of
44.131.159.228.

speak to your local co-ordinator for a copy. I'd send you mine but it would
be less than useless to you in the States.

--
Mark A Phillips
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
G7LTT@GB7WIR.#42.GBR.EU


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:36:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barbara Fehner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: packet with commodore 64
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 21:28:46 GMT
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Ken, I have the Digicom programs in my FTP site at:
ftp.cts.com/pub/fehner

Read the readme text in the directory before downloading the programs.

73's

Barbara  KK6IB
E-Mail:  [e-mail]

____________________________________________________________
[e-mail] (Ken White) wrote:

>Is there hardware and software available for running packet on the
>Commodore 64?
>I've heard that MFJ makes a TNC and that Digicom64 is the software of
>choice. Where can I download digicom64?
>
>Thanks KE4WIS



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:54:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (TRACY TURNER)
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Subject: .
Date: 3 Feb 96 10:02:00 GMT
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Hello!
I'm searching for a packet BBS software that will provide limited access
for users until upgraded by the SYSOP.
If anyone knows of such an animal and where it may be obtained, please
let me know.
Thanks,
de KD4CDX
tracy.turner#[e-mail]

---
 * [TN71] Ky WME Net Mailhub * Vital Link BBS * Harlan,KY,USA * 606-573-1592


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:54:54 1996
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From: Richard Pyne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: 10 Ghz full duplex?
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Mike Decerbo wrote:

> If someone would like to snail-mail me a photocopy of the original
> article, I will scan, OCR, and HTMLize it for hosting on the Web
> server of anyone who would like to host it. Email me first so I know
> it's coming.

I will be happy to host the page. I maintain the web server at our local
public library and already have a group of Ham Radio related pages
(mostly local ARES) at http://www.provo.lib.ut.us/ares/

--
Richard B. Pyne, KB7RMU
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.provo.lib.ut.us/~rpyne/

The contents of this message reflect my opinions only and
not necessarily those of any employer, client or service
provider.

This information is provided as is without any express or
implied warranties.  While every effort has been taken to
ensure the accuracy of the information contained here, the
author assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions,
or for damages resulting from the use of the information
contained herein.


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:54:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 19.2k+ modem, need info.
Date: 9 Feb 1996 05:35:56 GMT
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Someone posted an article that stated off the shelf 56k modems
were available from SEVERAL places. If anybody knows where, let
me know.
Matt



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:54:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ashtabula2)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 4.030
Date: 7 Feb 1996 01:10:26 -0500
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Hello everyone,

     Can someone identify the steady carrier located at 4.030, it has been
courious to me..... pegged my meter here in ohio, any help would be
greatly appreciated...

73,s

Jeff


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:54:58 1996
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From: David Chapman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components
Subject: Re: 7910 MODEM CHIPS WANTED
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 21:28:38 GMT
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  Hi David...

> does anyone have any 7910 or 7911 modem chips for sale. Either the AMD or
> SGS Thompson variety?

  I have one brand new AM 7911 DC chip which I would willingly donate to
help a good cause.  If you consider that you are one <G>, then send me a
stamped addressed envelope (see my web site) and I will send it back by
return post.

  BTW, I also have a built-up modem from a Wireless World design which
uses, I think, a 7910 chip.  It is built on their approved PCB and cased
with a 240v PSU.  It worked when I last used it some years ago. If that is
of any interest I am open to offers.

  ATB  -  Dave

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From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:54:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Dengler)
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Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City/Repeater Use
Date: 2 Feb 1996 21:43:49 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Rob Janssen) writes:
>In <4elgqo$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark Fellhauer
) writes:
>
>>[e-mail] (Rob Janssen) wrote:
>
>>>In <[e-mail]> Eddie Caffray <[e-mail]> wr
ites:
>
>>>> On the 146.85 repeater here in Central NY we had trouble with one user al
so. He made it that
>>>>no one would even monitor the reapeater anymore. The club voted to ban him
 and we did. The
>>>>reapeater is a great place to be again.
>
>>>How do you manage to effectively ban malicious users from a repeater?
>>>Of course this problem is known all over the world, but at least over
>>>here we have not yet found an effective way of stopping them.  How do
>>>you do that?
>

Here's what a local repeater club in So. Cal. did:

-Changed the status of their repeater from 'open' to 'private', so that only
 club members are 'supposed' to use it.

-Got a restraining order prohibiting the undesired user from using the
 repeater.

The restraining order was enforced & the undesired user was forced off the
repeater, along with lots of 'good' non-member users.

Bob NO6B



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:00 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ?? Novell ethernet cards under NOS?
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 02:03:36 GMT
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Hi All,

A friend is trying to get a Novell ethernet card working under nos. It is made
 by
Anthem (Assy. *810-160-00x)  and is setup as per the NetWare Installation
Supplement. The cards work fine under Windoze.
He is using the folloing batch file line to load the driver:
ne1000 0x60 2 0x340

and this under nos:
attach packet 0x60 ec0 8 1500


The problem which he is having is that it comes up with Failed RX upcalls when
recieving packets. Does anyone know what might be causing the problem?

Any help would be appreciated.

Andrew, VK6JBL


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:01 1996
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From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:02 1996
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From: Bob McMillan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Firmware Revisions
Date: 6 Feb 1996 01:11:18 GMT
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I just installed version 7.1 in my pk-900

wb5ryr
bob mcmillan




From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: anyone using "GINA" XCVRS?
Date: 6 Feb 1996 09:06:43 -0500
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Anyone on this newsgroup experimenting with 902-928 spread-spectrum
xcvrs? Interested especially in using A/D>D/A of half-duplex speech
transmission over either GINA (if that's possible) or other similiar units
that run 1-watt rf..

Patricia Gibbons <[e-mail]>

73


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: BPQ/Hostmode for MFJ 1270 C upwards?
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 96 10:17:46 GMT
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Hi,

        Does anyone know if MFJ1270C onwards supports hostmodes? I noticed
that TAPR 1.1.8a has BPQ Hostmode support but could not get my 1270B with
upgraded C EPROM to go into the Hostmode. Where can I find out more info
on this hostmode support? Even TAPR's web page doesn't have too much info
on this. I would appreciate any help here as I am trying to write a terminal
software which directly supports the hostmode (or BPQ or whatever). The
existing software that uses the streamswitch character to implement multi
windowed virtual terminals are too much of a kludge and unreliable. TIA.

73 de 9V1ZV Daniel


 Daniel Wee | [e-mail]
 9V1ZV      | [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Can a PK88 do DCD state?
Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:58:01 -0700
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[e-mail] (Pat Masterson) wrote:


> I just bought a seconhand PK88. This one was built in 1989,
>and I ordered latest (1991) firmware from AEA. I forgot to
>ask them  if there is any DCD sense on this device. How can
>I run it with open squelch? The radio is an IC 229. Perhaps
>somebody knows of a tap for the "busy" indicator? -pat

Order a DCD state machine kit from TAPR  (see www.tapr.org for
details).

Bob



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:06 1996
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From: Hank Oredson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: compiling JNOS
Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:41:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (S. Sampson) wrote:
>>This may be a silly question, I want to compile some different options into
>>JNOS.  I've got the source code, a C compiler (borland c++ 3.1 (I think)),
>>I was told to edit the config.h (or was it .c) file.  But when I try to
>>compile it (or make it) I get a linker error in a0.asm.  Can any one help ??
>
>You need to:
>
>1. Edit the config.h
>2. Edit the Makefile
>3. Install your C compiler (BC 3.1 or greater) correctly (autoexec.bat, etc).
>4. Type "make"
>
>That's it.
>

Don't forget to install TASM also ...



--

Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics             Library Operations
Internet     : [e-mail]    "Parts 'R Us!"
Amateur Radio: [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:07 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Contact for TCP/IP address in Detroit?
Date: 6 Feb 1996 04:56:51 GMT
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Greg,

I regularly connected with WU8C in Detroit from Seattle.  I used my UHF
packet station to make the connection.  he might be a source for knowing
who issues the TCP / IP address in Detroit.

Gary KF7XV



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:08 1996
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From: fiz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 12:02:20 -0800
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Stan Huntting wrote:
>
> In article <4f69hu$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
> >Anybody know of a freeware or public domain packet software package
> >for Windows, (3.1 or 95)?  How about an ftp address?
>
> Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and antenn
a.
> ;-)
>
> --
> Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
> Postal Address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
>                   Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA
> email:            [e-mail]
> KaWin Home Page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
> KaWin FTP Site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin

So why does 'store bought' software have to be the only solution? There
are lots of GOOD freeware/shareware programs out there. Why don't you
come up with a useful reply instead of being a jerk and wasting OUR time
reading an irrelevant reply?

My reply to the original question is, beats me. I only run packet in DOS
but there IS software out there. Try the oak.oakland.edu ftp site. BTW, I
DO see FREE computers from time to time (mostly XT's) and build the
majority of my antennas for practically nothing. I also write and upload
FREEWARE programs now and then.

fiz (KG0YG)


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 01:01:16 GMT
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fiz <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Stan Huntting wrote:

>> Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and anten
na.

>So why does 'store bought' software have to be the only solution? There
>are lots of GOOD freeware/shareware programs out there. Why don't you
>come up with a useful reply instead of being a jerk and wasting OUR time
>reading an irrelevant reply?

>My reply to the original question is, beats me. I only run packet in DOS
>but there IS software out there. Try the oak.oakland.edu ftp site. BTW, I
>DO see FREE computers from time to time (mostly XT's) and build the
>majority of my antennas for practically nothing. I also write and upload
>FREEWARE programs now and then.

>fiz (KG0YG)

I didn't know I was asking for so much.  As I responed to this
gentleman, I built my computer, (and business I have done from my home
has paid for it, not general family operating funds), my antenna was
given to me as well as my coax.  The HT I am using was bought used for
me by my Dad, and the TNC I am using was a great used deal.  I thought
hamming was about being creative in your building/acquiring.  I didn't
know you had to go out and buy the newest and the best.
As a parting comment, some of the best applications I use are freeware
or public domain.  Most of those programs were a labor of love....
[e-mail], KB9JLO


Peace+
Dan Reynolds, [e-mail], KB9JLO



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:11 1996
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From: [e-mail](Jean-Pierre Heulin )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software?
Date: 7 Feb 1996 14:32:36 GMT
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>Stan Huntting wrote:
>>
>> Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver
and antenna.
>> ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
>> Postal Address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
>>                   Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA
>> email:            [e-mail]
>> KaWin Home Page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
>> KaWin FTP Site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin
>

What a mean spirited answer. There are lots of Hams out there who are
willing to write software and in the spirit of Ham radio are willing to
give it away for nothing. Ka9q NOS is one example where lots of people
spend many hours and still do as we speak. The Linux operating system
and software is another.
I think Stan KF0IA just flames for the hell of it. Had a bad day Stan ?

Look in ftp.ucsd.edu\hamradio\packet

Jean-Pierre kc6jet



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From: [e-mail] (anonymous)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software?
Date: 7 Feb 1996 12:22:24 GMT
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In article <4f69hu$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dan Reynolds) s
ays:
>
>Anybody know of a freeware or public domain packet software package
>for Windows, (3.1 or 95)?  How about an ftp address?
>Peace+
>Dan Reynolds, [e-mail], KB9JLO
>

Yes for shure! Try PACKY for windows or packtwin ... you can find it at
ftp.ibp.fr/pub6/pc/win3/misc/

For shure, you should try to find those 2 softs with Warchie in a ftp near you
r home
there are the names again packy.. .zip and pktwin.. . zip (where .. are N░
of versions ...)
(Try REGEX option or substring)

Those 2 softs are really good. support them (shareware..) by paying fees

CIAO

73 51 from Jean-Paul South France

EMail: [e-mail]

packet: (11 METERS, SOUTH FRANCE) : FRB1KV@FRA3LP



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Borba)
Subject: GE Master II ICOMS
Message-ID: <237cc$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 96 14:09:19 GMT
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At a recent Hamfest was able to pick up about 15 GE Master II low band
radios and 5 Motorola Low Band units.  We are first working to convert
the Master II's first.  Question we have is in regards to the
temperature controlled crystal units (ICOMS).  Does anyone have any
experience in constructing the ICOMS or know of a source for the ICOMS
so the units could be used on 6 Meters.  Would appreciate any
information!

73 de Gary, KR4XC



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:13 1996
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very nicely said i hope she does get her ticket

3s' de wayme  N1OFF



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WB7ASR)
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Subject: Re: Grounding
Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:46:38 GMT
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1)  will this help get rid of noise on my ICOM R71A caused by
    my computer?
    NO!
2) what gauge wire should I use?
    As large as possible
3) what length of ground rod should I use to see some results?
    As long as possible

Grounds are always a GOOD idea, for the will balance everything
in you shack, providing "everything" is tied to the same
common ground. However for interference you will have to choke out
the noise at the source, in your case, your computer. I would
suggest using iron core toroids on all the computer I/O cables.

Good luck, Tom...




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From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HamComm 3.0 success story
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:49:08 MST
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A couple weeks ago I asked for your thoughts on HamComm software for RTTY and
AMTOR.  I received quite a few responses and the overwhelming feeling was
that this package is excellent.  So, I heated up the soldering iron and built
the interface.  I had my first RTTY QSO about two hours after the last solder
joint had cooled.  What a thrill it was to explore a brand new mode (at least
new to me) for such a small investment in time and money.  Thanks to all of
you who convinced me to take the plunge.


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:17 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: HELP:  2m packet radio for Log Windows 3.0
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 23:31:50 -0400
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Anyone know any 2m radios for packet that will let LOG WINDOWS 3.0 control it?

KE4IKT


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:18 1996
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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: High Speed Modems
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[e-mail] (Christopher J Hansen) wrote:
>I am interested in information on high speed radio modems for
>amateur radio applications, such as packet.  Specifically, I am
>interested in speeds greater than 9600 bps.  Is there a reference
>point for information in this area?  A website or mailing list
>perhaps?  Please respond here or email me at [e-mail].
>
>Chris Hansen, KA2WRG
>

There are several.  You can get to most of them from the Colorado Amateur
Radio page:

          http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/hamradio.html#digital

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/cra_news.html




From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gerd Roethig)
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Subject: homebuilt TNC ?
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Hello all,


I wanted to homebrew a TNC for Packet Radio, based on the Z80 CPU.

Are there any schematic diagrams for that?

Also, I need the Firmware source codes.


Any help will be greatly appreciated!


Gerd


P.S.: I am interested in information about the TNC3, too...




From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:21 1996
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From: [e-mail](Douglas Henson )
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Subject: HTX 202 and BayPac TNC
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I am trying to connect a BayPac Model BP-1 TNC to an HTX 202 radio
using a hand mic cable.  Has anyone done this?  I would like to confirm
the wire connections before I plug the darn thing into the computer.

This is a table to illistrate what I am trying to do:

+-------+------------+--------------+
|  TNC* |  Function  |  Cable Wire  |
+-------+------------+--------------+
| black |  Ground    |  bare        |
| Green |  speaker   |  yellow      |
| yellow|  mic       |  red         |
| red   |  PTT       |  (not used)  |
+-------+------------+--------------+

  * the TNC is connected to the cable wire via a rj11 jack and wire

Thank you for your help!!!! and 73,

Doug Henson
KF6AAZ


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:22 1996
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Hello All:

   I have an HTX-202 that has apparently lost its audio chain.  It transmits,
and is apparently receiving ( the S-Meter is acting appropriately when it
senses a signal. :-)  Can anyone point me to where I can tap the output of
the discriminator?  I presume that I can acquire the audio there, and pipe it
to my TNC, indirectly.  :-)

Thanks,
   - Rich

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Rich Mulvey, aa2ys                                        Rochester, NY   USA
[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carlos_SPAIN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: INFORMATION TNCs (Maximun available speed)
Date: 2 Feb 1996 22:30:09 GMT
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Please, I need to Know about TNC's maximun speed, Types & models, and prices.
Also where I can buy them.

It's possible to find a 19200 or 28800 TNC packet modem for 2m or 430MHz?

 Thanks & greatings from SPAIN ,Carlos  EB1DRN


 [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dean Cookson)
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Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup?
Date: 1 Feb 1996 19:59:32 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>One method to do that is to create an alt group. If the volume in
>the alt group is sufficient, it would be a strong argument to
>move it into the regular hierarchy.

It's a method, but it's a really bad one.  alt groups are impossible to
get rid of so there is no such thing as 'moving' a group to the big-8.
Also, alt is supposed to be a hierarchy that stands on its own, not
a test bed for the big-8.  A better idea would be to create a mailing
list and then cut it over to a news group if there is sufficient interest.

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From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Maude)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Internet via high frequency packet radio in Africa?
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 20:16:45 GMT
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I am considering a job in Africa.  Internet service provider not
available because the phones don't work.  Can you help with some
answers to these questions?
1. Can high frequency packet connect me to internet for mail (first
priority) or WWW. ?
2. Would I need anything more than radio, antenna, TNC , software and
knowledge?
3. What kind of bandwidth can I get out of HF packet?
4. Would satellite UHF be a better option.  The site is on the
equator.




From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul J. Piercey (VO1HE))
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Subject: Re: J-Nos NewsGroup
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 18:01:20 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Jean Letourneau) wrote:
>Is there a newsgroup for J-Nos?
>Or someway I can subscribe to a J-Nos provider?
>Thank You!.
>
>
> * SLMR 2.1a * A celebrity is a person who is known for
well-knownness.
>
There is a mailing list. The address is:

[e-mail]

Just send the standard subscription request and you should
start getting the stuff.

73.

============================================================================
Paul J. Piercey

VO1HE
[44.135.16.3]

Packet Address     VO1HE@VO1AAA.#ENF.NF.CAN.NOAM
Internet Address   [e-mail]
============================================================================


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:27 1996
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From: Rob Bellville <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: JNOS book???
Date: 5 Feb 1996 23:53:49 GMT
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Is there any good reference material on JNOS? I'm especialy interested in
LAN applications and would like to read about real-life applications. Is
there such a book or Internet reference?

Thanks - Rob

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 Rob Bellville, N1NTE                           PO Box 515
 [e-mail]                  Millbury, MA 01527
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From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:28 1996
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From: Feroz Ghouse <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Kam Modifications
Date: 2 Feb 1996 04:09:48 GMT
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Hello:

For those users who have the KAM enhancement board added to their KAMs, there
is a
modification that is supposed to improve the performance of the KAM to bring i
t upto
the level of the new KAM Plus.

I inquired from Kantronics and they said that they do not support such
modifications.

My question is has anyone done this mod and how dies it work. In otherwords is
 it
worthwhile following up on. I do have the modification somewhere in the belly
of my
hard drive.

Comments would be appreciated
73
Feroz, 4S7FG/WU9N



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:29 1996
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Subject: KPC 9612, some common problems.
Date: 6 Feb 1996 06:41:32 GMT
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Here is my list of common problems.
1. make sure you have a 9600 capable radio. See list for my have used list.
2. 9612's like to see 3.3k deviation. 3 is too little, 3.75 is too much.
3. TXD too long. Yes, too long. Don't set it over 25 if at all possible. I cur
rently run at 7
(seven).

Radios:
D4-10, Kenwood tm733 (have to adjust dev), tekk 900, 960 and 1000.

If this doesn't help, email me at [e-mail] and I'll see what I can
do.

Matt



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Blijs)
Subject: Re: KPC 9612, some common problems.
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[e-mail] wrote:
: Here is my list of common problems.
: 1. make sure you have a 9600 capable radio. See list for my have used list.
: 2. 9612's like to see 3.3k deviation. 3 is too little, 3.75 is too much.
: 3. TXD too long. Yes, too long. Don't set it over 25 if at all possible. I c
urrently run at 7
: (seven).

: Radios:
: D4-10, Kenwood tm733 (have to adjust dev), tekk 900, 960 and 1000.

: If this doesn't help, email me at [e-mail] and I'll see what I ca
n do.

: Matt

The TM733 is absolutely useless for 9600bd packet ! Much to slow in t/r
switching, a very high bit error ratio.

I wouldn't recommend it. Maybe just bearable if you only read mail from
the local bbs. But if you try to transmit long packets the bad BER
damages your modulation.

See also the test results in recent QST articles

73 Joop, pe1dna



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Jones & Martha McLemore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: looking for W2XO
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 02:40:35 GMT
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Once upon a time, [e-mail] () wrote:

>Can anybody give me an email address of W2XO in Pittsburgh ? His FBB mailbox
>is doing strange things - like accepting forwarding from CB stations...
>
>Joop, pe1dna
>[e-mail]
>
I found his Web page recently at:   http://www.w2xo.pgh.pa.us  his email
is      [e-mail]      I sent him your note (your post
above).

Cheers,

Ken Jones ( mailto:[e-mail] ) ( CIS:73135,1243 )
[Amateur Radio callsign KB3JA]
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ken_jones
PGP Key ID:FE99B25D; key avail on public servers



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Felix G. Sassano, M.D.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MFJ-1278B/Ten-Tec Omni V -> FSK problem!
Date: 6 Feb 1996 04:35:46 GMT
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My MFJ-1278B TNC has an 8 pin IDC connector that will allow me to hook up
an FSK connection to my Ten-Tec Omni V. (one pin ground, one pin FSK). I
normally hook up the TNC/HF rig using the AFSK mode with a cable (DIN 5
plug that allows me to hook up to the HF rig using the PTT, Audio IN and
Audio OUT plugs on the back of the Ten-Tec....worked fine.  When I plugged
the FSK cable to the Mark-Space plug on the rear of the Ten-Tec (as per
manual), I can not key the HF rig. (PTT, audio IN & audio OUT are being
used). The RTTY plug on the Ten-Tec is to ground and I get key-down when I
use it.  Can I tap into the original PTT cable or am I missing something?

Thanks and 73

de KC1H

--
"primum non nocere"


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:33 1996
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There are two more programs that I am aware of.
The first was published in 73 magazine with source it is called ROBOCOPY.
This one is a copy/read only program with source in "C".

I have also used a program called CW version 1.04 based on the robocopy
program. This one was written by W0NFU, has no source code with it, runs
on an IBM PC.
Both of these programs require a seperate interface to your HF rig.

N2IKO >>>


In message <[e-mail]> -
Ference Kish <[e-mail]> writes:
:>
:>
:>> >
:>> >Hi. My dad is a Ham operator, and asked me if there were some
:>> inexpensive
:>> >way to have incoming Morse code automatically translated and displayed
:>> on
:>> >a CRT. Since I know nothing about Ham radio, I thought I'd post here.
:>
:>There is a program called MORSEFFT which you should be able to find on the n
et
:>(use ARCHIE to find the site storing it )
:>
:>It needs a sound blaster card as an input device. It comes with C source cod
e,
:>too
:>
:>






From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Minger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: need help using a laptop computer for packet...
Date: 7 Feb 1996 21:02:53 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4f8rm5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>hello all...
>>can anyone help me how to connect my KPC-3 tnc to my laptop? the
>>connection from the tnc to the computer requires an RS-232 serial port
>>with a DB-25 connector... but my laptop only has a 9 pin serial port.
>>
>>any suggestions as to how to connect my tnc to my laptop?
>
>Sure, get a DB-9 connector, a DB-25 connector, some wire, a soldering
>iron, and solder. Your KPC-3 manual shows you which pins connect to
>which signals. Or if you don't know which end of a soldering iron
>gets hot, just pickup a DB-25 to DB-9 adapter at any computer store.

Good advice, that.   If you find the manual to be a problem, you might
also check out the web page of Gloria Medcalf.  Someone said he thought
she was a Kantronics employee, per another posting.

She offers tons of radio/TNC hookup information.  She is plugging a
book  titled "What is your TNC doing?".  Anyway, you don't have to
buy the book to see some pretty in-depth information.  Here is the URL:

http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/tnc-bk/index.html

Check it out....
-John, KE6DTC
--
___________________________________________________________________________
John A Minger    KE6DTC          Opinions expressed are those of the author
Los Angeles, CA                  and not those of anyone or anything else.


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sherwin Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: need help using a laptop computer for packet...
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 00:27:55 GMT
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hello all...
can anyone help me how to connect my KPC-3 tnc to my laptop? the
connection from the tnc to the computer requires an RS-232 serial port
with a DB-25 connector... but my laptop only has a 9 pin serial port.

any suggestions as to how to connect my tnc to my laptop?

sherwin ve7hqt





From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: need help using a laptop computer for packet...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:27:44 GMT
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In article <4f8rm5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>hello all...
>can anyone help me how to connect my KPC-3 tnc to my laptop? the
>connection from the tnc to the computer requires an RS-232 serial port
>with a DB-25 connector... but my laptop only has a 9 pin serial port.
>
>any suggestions as to how to connect my tnc to my laptop?

Sure, get a DB-9 connector, a DB-25 connector, some wire, a soldering
iron, and solder. Your KPC-3 manual shows you which pins connect to
which signals. Or if you don't know which end of a soldering iron
gets hot, just pickup a DB-25 to DB-9 adapter at any computer store.

Gary
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534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:38 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Date: 6 Feb 1996 04:53:27 GMT
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Thw WETNET has established 4 packet only repeaters in the greater Seattle,
Wa area.  1 is on 2 meters and the other 3 are on 440 Mhz. The entire
ssytem works real well, as all the station then focus on the repeaters.
The repeaters do bit regeneration and no voice can pass.  These are not
simplex digis but full blown repeaters. I have had file transmfer rates of
600 bytes per second.  They are all doing TCP / IP, seem to work real well.
All are within the normal voice frequencies and cause no bother to voice
repeaters close by.  Also all are at 9600 bps.

Gary



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:39 1996
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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Date: 1 Feb 1996 23:56:14 GMT
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I disagree with your statement about the use of a packet
regenerator at a duplex digipeater site....

Instead of using analog voice systems, use of a regenerator would
1) ensure that only packet would be passed thru, not voice
2) allow the system to use ANY freq available for packet use NOT
just the rptr subbands on say 6 or 2mtr...but the entire band!
(voice rptrs are limited to the rptr subbands....packet digis
either simplex or duplex are not)
3) using a VOICE rptr channel for packet is poor spectrum
usage...it would be wasting a rptr channel that voice users could
use...
4) the regenerator would clean up any noisy signals and
retransmit them clean for all to copy.....plus no loss of data
because of poor audio quality on a voice rptr would occur in a
true digital sense!

73
Chris

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician  [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 12:11:50 GMT
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On Sat, 03 Feb 1996 18:30:35 GMT, [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
wrote:

>On 1 Feb 1996 23:56:14 GMT, Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>
>>3) using a VOICE rptr channel for packet is poor spectrum
>>usage...it would be wasting a rptr channel that voice users could
>>use...
>
>Oh sure and everyone knows that all the voice repeaters are SOOOOOO
>busy with important stuff and all.
>
>Putting a packet repeater on the wasteland of idle voice machines
>sounds like a great idea. And it's totally legal as well. You'll have
>a ton of trouble with the ol' boyz repeater co-ordination clubs
>though.
>
>-be
>
Using a voice frequency repeater for packet radio as a digi is NOT so
uncommon. Throughout the Australian "Outback" if and when there are no
other means, a few guys use these voice repeaters as digi's by consent
with other operators, usually very late at night or early morning.

It's also a common practice in certain places in New Zealand, when
(AND IF!) there are no digi's in a particular area, the blokes have
the consent of the local voice operators to use voice repeaters for
digi's with the same time constraints as in the Australian case.

Packet Radio:  Amateur radio for hams that can read and write...

Kindest regards,
Bob, VK7KOB, ZL3TJP


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Date: 7 Feb 1996 23:30:03 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
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Message-ID: <4fbclr$[e-mail]>
References: <4erjuu$nu$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: nothing.ucsd.edu

[e-mail] writes:
>Using a voice frequency repeater for packet radio as a digi is NOT so uncommo
n.

In common usage among most packet people, a 'digi' is a device that
stores one or more packets and then retransmits them as soon as the
channel is clear, without hop-to-hop acknowledgements.  The
retransmission is NOT simultaneous as it is in a voice repeater.

In other words, a 'digi' or 'digipeater' is NOT the same as a 'digital
repeater' might be.

Yes, it's confusing.

Which one of these did VK7KOB mean?
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:42 1996
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From: Chuck Harrington <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Paket for Windows
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 02:32:54 -0500
Organization: Chuck Harrington Software, Inc.
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
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Try PacketPeT For Windows. Also, Visual PacketPeT For Windows will be
released within a month, and should make a pretty good splash!
--
PacketPeT For Windows - Terminal Software For All hardware TNCs!
For Shareware version Download ftp://qrz.com./incoming/p21r2.zip
Chuck Harrington Software, Inc. - [e-mail] - [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:42 1996
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From: Jason Reighard <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: QZR Call look up door for VBBS???
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 00:16:37 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Lines: 6
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com

Is there a door program avaible for Virtual BBS to allow users look up
callsigns via VBBS?

Jason
KB8sfc



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:43 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (D.L.Pomeroy)
Subject: REQ RDS Demod. TDA7330
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: University of Exeter, UK
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:31:41 GMT
Lines: 3

I desperately need an RDS demodulator chip TDA7330 or equivalent to
finish my final year project. Can anyone help? Please let me know!



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Starting a PBBS using FBB-need help
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:48:57 UNDEFINED
Organization: Amateur Radio Station KJ7BS
Lines: 23
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: s169.phxslip4.indirect.com
X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1]

Hello, and thanks for reading this message.  I'm trying to setup a new Packet
BBS in the Phoenix metro area using F6FBB.  I'm not sure I've got the right
hardware/software for the job.  Here is what I have, you tell me.

80486DX100 computer with 1.2GB, 16MB ram, DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1.
(VHF) Yaesu FT-530 HT (a little light for the job, but plan to get another rig
)
(HF) Kenwood TS-850S/AT
MFJ-1278BT TNC
F6FBB V 5.15

The documentation is rather difficult to comprehend in places.  Your help will

be greatly appreciated.

Regards,





Mark Saunders - KJ7BS
Glendale, AZ
PACKET:   [e-mail]
INTERNET: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TAPR TNC-2 1.1.9
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 13:12:14 GMT
Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service
Lines: 8
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4f7k51$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ts900-1718.singnet.com.sg
X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #2

Can anyone tell me what's new in the TAPR TNC-2 1.1.9 ROM version
compare to the 1.1.8(a)? Does it come with Mailbox support etc?

73 de 9V1ZV Daniel

 Daniel Wee | [e-mail]
 9V1ZV      | [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Customer Support)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Timewave Technology Homepage
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 21:46:14 GMT
Organization: Timewave Technology Inc.
Lines: 15
Message-ID: <4f8lrp$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-74.minn.net
X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4
Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14021 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24688 rec.radio.amateur.misc:97849 rec.radio.shortwave:69816

I am proud to announce that the WWW Homepage for Timewave Technology
is finally up and running. You can view spec sheets for our products,
a list of dealers, a list of magazine reviews, customer testimonials,
download user manuals, and more. It's not as fancy as some homepages,
and a few parts are still under construction, but it'll improve as
time goes on.

Check it out at: http://www.timewave.com/index.html

73, John, NJ0M
Product Engineer
and wearer of many hats...
Timewave Technology Inc.
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete Hoffswell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: tnc cable for HTX-202?
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 06:45:25 GMT
Organization: Iserv.net, Grand Rapids, MI, USA
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Message-ID: <4esa3g$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: holland82.iserv.net
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

Sorry, I'm sure you get this note once a month, but...

Anyone know how to make a Realistic HTX-202 to TNC Cable?

HTX-202 has

MIC TIP
MIC

SPK TIP
SPK

------
TNC has

PTT
AF OUT (to mic in)
AF IN (to recvr spkr)
GND

-------------

The tnc is a Heath HK-21 pocket packet.

Pete, the electronics neophyte.




From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carlos Blanco)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNCs INFORMATION NEEDED !!!!!
Date: 3 Feb 1996 00:07:29 GMT
Organization: Your Organization
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Message-ID: <4eu902$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slip139-92-41-253.ut.nl.ibm.net
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+

I want to know if its possible to find a TNC or modem for 2m band or 430MHz ba
nd,
with a 14400 baud rate or upper. Could you send me type,model & price?

Also, what is the better equiment for it of YAESU, KENWOOD, ICOM ?



                Thanks & greetings from SPAIN, .... EB1DRN Carlos


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:49 1996
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From: Bill Choisser <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: White Pages Server
Date: 6 Feb 1996 09:11:29 GMT
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <4f7601$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sfsp131.slip.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NNTP-NEWS-ADMIN: [e-mail]
X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit)
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

>I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the
>nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that >was a
while back. Thanks for you help.

Hi Adam...

The National WP database is now at N6IYA.#CENCA.CA.USA.NOAM located
near Santa Cruz, CA.

You're right about AD8I.  He was the national server prior to IYA.

73, Larry, WB9LOZ@W6PW.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
[e-mail]
San Francisco




From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:49 1996
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From: Bill Choisser <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: White Pages Server
Date: 6 Feb 1996 09:14:06 GMT
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <4f764u$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sfsp131.slip.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NNTP-NEWS-ADMIN: [e-mail]
X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit)
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:

>I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the
>nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that >was a
while back. Thanks for you help.

Hi Adam...

The National WP database is now at N6IYA.#CENCA.CA.USA.NOAM located
near Santa Cruz, CA.

You're right about AD8I.  He was the national server prior to IYA.

73, Larry, WB9LOZ@W6PW.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
[e-mail]
San Francisco




From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete..)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 01:17:18 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <4fbf78$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: mcs002.pc.sno.dec.com
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55

Hello ALL

Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets.  He has
uploaded it not a number of phone BBS's.

If someone comes across it, can they upload it onto an FTP site and
let everyone know.....


Cheers..Peter

e-mail: [e-mail]
ax25:[e-mail] (for those that underestand)

The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer
does not have the right to use my opinions..



From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:51 1996
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From: "Ros St. John" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WTB: TOWER/ANTENNAE
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 22:36:07 -0800
Organization: GHG Corporation
Lines: 20
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialupline73.ghgcorp.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I)

Hi.  Due to a tornado, my tower and antennae are now junk.

STATE FARM INSURANCE REFUSES TO PAY CLAIM!!!!!  BEWARE!!!!

I am looking for a used TRI-EX/HYGAIN LM-354 tower or at the very
least, the center section thereof.

Want used HYGAIN TH-7DXS OR TH-11.

Want used CUSCHCRAFT 2 METER BOOMER.

Want M2 1.2 gig atv antenna.

Want AEA OR  M2 434 mhz. atv antenna.

Thank you.

W5BRY, Ros.

my email is [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Feb 09 16:55:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Miroslav Skoric, B.Sc.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: YAESU FT-7B for data?
Date: 6 Feb 96 13:21:34 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: [e-mail]

I have an old FT-7B rig running with FBB5.14a and TNC2S/WA8DED on HF packet.
Interested in possible use on more TX/RX exchange ratio (AMTOR, PACTOR etc)
and wonder if anybody has experienced this rig in those modes.

Also, for IC-745 that I will use in the next several months..

73 de Misko, [e-mail]
           [e-mail]
         SRV Amateur union (info mngr) Trg Mladenaca 10, Novi Sad, Yugoslavia


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:54:58 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 19.2k+ modem, need info.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <4femfs$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 18:57:18 GMT
Lines: 17

In article <4femfs$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Someone posted an article that stated off the shelf 56k modems
>were available from SEVERAL places. If anybody knows where, let
>me know.
>Matt

I don't know of *several*, but I do know of two places. GRAPES
still sells kits of the original 3 board design, and PacComm is
advertising W&T versions of the new all on one board units.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:54:59 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: PE1CHL
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4efpb3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>   <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>   <[e-mail]> <4ete1q$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 22:41:41 GMT
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In <4ete1q$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dean Denter) writes:

>Every radio has a "unique" pattern when you key it (due to differences
>in the components etc), this pattern can be used to identify a radio.
>There is no encrypted signal or anything that fancy.

I have my doubts about the uniqueness of the pattern generated by
same-type transmitters...  and the stability of the pattern as a
function of temperature, time etc.
But it seems another sub-thread starts to discuss this.

Rob
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul B. Schou)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Address/Phone for TEKK
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 96 16:27:28 EST
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: Annapolis Regional Network
Lines: 5

Can someone pass at least a phone number to me? Thanks.


Hillsmere Shores - Annapolis, MD USA - Sailing Capital of the World
Internet: [e-mail]  -  Packet: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John DeRuiter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AEA Firmware Revisions
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 23:12:52 GMT
Organization: Crossroads Communications
Lines: 8
Message-ID: <4f0q10$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
NNTP-Posting-Host: slip35.xroads.com
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

Can anyone fill me in the the various firmware revisions (or at least
the most recent ones) that PK-232 from AEA has gone through?   Is
version 7 the most recent version?

Thanks in advance and 73

John , KJ7GU



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:01 1996
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From: Paul Bastian <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Cheap Modem for JVFax
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:59:30 -0800
Organization: Sprynet News Service
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dd08-003.compuserve.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I)

Does anybody know were on can get a modem for JVFax software.



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Erik Meltzer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: DCF-77
Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:37:02 GMT
Organization: Sor-Trondelag College, Norway
Lines: 7
Message-ID: <4fie2u$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: colargol.idb.hist.no
Keywords: DCF-77
X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0]

Can anyone help me with geting hold of information on the DCF-77 protocol,
 in English as my German is rotten.
If you have any information I would be happy if you could mail it to me.

Erik Meltzer

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete..)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: E-Mail FBB forwarding wanted !!
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:41:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <4fj6mi$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 16.172.48.48
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55

Hello OM's

I would like to test FBB forwarding via e-mail..  If you are
interested , please e-mail me !!!!!

I will accept mail from ANYWHERE !!!!!


Cheers..Peter

e-mail: [e-mail]
ax25:[e-mail] (for those that underestand)

The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer
does not have the right to use my opinions..



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:04 1996
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From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: fast packet <--> internet
Date: 13 Feb 1996 13:16:11 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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Message-ID: <4fq2ur$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-den10-16.ix.netcom.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Feb 13  5:16:11 AM PST 1996
X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit)
To: [e-mail]

Hi Les,

[e-mail] (Les Dittert) wrote:
>Does anyone know of a way to connect a packet station to the internet ?
>I want to set up a base station , with a high speed packet station, and
>have it be online. The end goal is to be able to look at my web page via
>remote laptop computer. I'm not sure if it is even worth trying to use
>conventional packet radio network protocols to do this.

As Gary pointed out, the best way is to extend the Internet protocols
over packet using the available hardware and software.

>I've been out of touch with the packet scene for 5 years now , and from
>what I remember it was mostly a BBS style of communicating, with lots of
>text and no images. With higher speeds ( > 9600 ) content with images
>such as WWW pages should be possible.

9600 baud packet provides 500 bytes per second transfer rates (a 14.4kb
telco modem gives 1600).  Hardware is available to go faster.  Start
reading on the Colorado Amateur Radio Page at
http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/hamradio.html#digital.  Also checkout what
Kantronics and Paccom are doing.
-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/cra_news.html




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete..)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FBB E-mail forwarding
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 01:23:32 GMT
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Hello OM's

I have setup an experimental FBB system and would like to try to
forwarding via e-mail.

Would someone care to send me mail, exported from FBB, zipped up ,
uuencoded and send it to me.  I will then forward it out to the Sydney
Network....

Please limit the zipped file to 300KB as my employer doesn't want his
mail system killed !!!  If this is successfull, I would like to do
this on an ongoing basis.

I'll accept bullitens from ANYWHERE !!!!!

Cheers..
Cheers..Peter

e-mail: [e-mail]
ax25:[e-mail] (for those that underestand)

The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer
does not have the right to use my opinions..



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software?
Date: 9 Feb 96 05:07:54 GMT
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On 06 Feb 1996 Dan Reynolds <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Anybody know of a freeware or public domain packet software package
>for Windows, (3.1 or 95)?  How about an ftp address?

Hello, Dan -

You could try UltraPak by G4WFT.  One of the local users likes it.
It's designed to work best with F6FBB BBS software.  The author asks
for 20 pounds registration fee (about 30+ dollars) which will remove
a 'registration window' on startup and entitle you to phone and email
support.  And, of course, encourage him in future efforts.  I don't
do windows so I haven't tried it, but took a quick look on a system
at the BBS QTH.  It looked good, to a non-'point and click'er.

It's available at:

ftp.demon.co.uk  /pub/ham/general
ftp.tapr.org     /tapr/software_lib/terminal

as UPAK40.ZIP.  You might also want to try UPAK401.ZIP, etc. for
updates.

I also read good things about WinPack v5.13 by Roger Barker which is
supposed to be freeware.  It's available at:

ftp.funet.fi  /pub/ham/packet/terminal

Have fun!  73 -

de Mike (TA2ZG/W2AV)     Remote Sysop TA2EM BBS - first PRBBS in Turkiye
Amateur Packet Radio:    TA2ZG@TA2EM.#IST.TUR.EU
Internet (email only):   Michael C. McHugh <[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <4f69hu$[e-mail]> <4f7po8$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
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fiz <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Stan Huntting wrote:
>>Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and antenn
a.
>
>So why does 'store bought' software have to be the only solution? There
>are lots of GOOD freeware/shareware programs out there. Why don't you
>come up with a useful reply instead of being a jerk and wasting OUR time
>reading an irrelevant reply?

It was an irrelevant, and perhaps irreverant, reply, but I think I
know where he is coming from. As a sometime software author myself,
I get irked by the attitude that hardware is worth paying for, but
that software should be free (or stolen).

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Wolf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: GTOR KAMsters: help us with thruput tests
Date: 12 Feb 1996 04:16:26 GMT
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Ken Wickwire ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Fame, Fortune, Big Science: All Free!:
:
: For some months we've been running tests of throughput
: in the HF TOR and packet modes over NVIS links in New England.

Hi ...

     I would be VERY interested in any reports of the KAM+ locking up
when left unattended in the TOR mode.  I had been running MSYS using TOR
with an upgraded KAM.  About three times per week the KAM would be left
in a locked state.  The red LED would be on continuously and nothing
short of a power down would restore it.

     The KAM was HEAVILY used on a HF port here and trying to duplicate
the problem has been frutile.  I have recorded the data to and from the
KAM before, during and after lockups and can not recreate the problem.

     I have now reverted to Pactor as 99.9% of the users start in Pactor
and try GTOR only if the band is in GREAT shape.  Left in Pactor, the TNC
is rock solid.

     Leaving the TNC in GTOR is not an option.  My users need the Pactor
as many are not running KAMs.  (And most are hundreds of miles from a
phone line, hi hi.)  Hence, trying to see if the problem is in GTOR is
not an option.  I can only verify its occurs in TOR.

     Being that I can record data to and from the KAM<>MSYS path ... and
being that I can not recreate the situtation by duplicating the data, I may
be wrestling with a lockup in the KAM firmware.  The KAM is a upgraded
version running 7.1 ROMs.  I tried another upgraded KAM but have no KAM+
to try.

     Anyone see such lockups, please!!!, let the net know.

--
73,
Steve
     Internet      :  [e-mail]
     Amateur Radio :  no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
     MSYS Mail List:  [e-mail] ('info' for title)

Pactor on 3630. 3632, 3634, 7072, 14072 and 14074 ... 48 seconds per cycle
          Near Cleveland, Ohio


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:10 1996
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (W.F.Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HamComm 3.0 success story
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:44:42 GMT
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Dave Skarbowski <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Bill Jones wrote:
>>
>> A couple weeks ago I asked for your thoughts on HamComm software for RTTY a
nd
>> AMTOR.  I received quite a few responses and the overwhelming feeling was
>> that this package is excellent.  So, I heated up the soldering iron and bui
lt
>> the interface.  I had my first RTTY QSO about two hours after the last sold
er
>> joint had cooled.  What a thrill it was to explore a brand new mode (at lea
st
>> new to me) for such a small investment in time and money.  Thanks to all of
>> you who convinced me to take the plunge.

>Yes, Hamcomm 3 works VERY well.  Now, try a DSP-59+ unit in front of your
>op-amp decode circuit and the recieve will work better than a pk-232 or
>Kam-plus.  This has been my experience....

>73, Dave, n2fam

Thanks to Bill and Dave.
It's nice to read a *positive* comment about HamComm.

73 Django
DL5YEC

--
He who has trouble shows up on usenet.
He who succeeded shows up on the bands.  :-)




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:12 1996
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From: [e-mail](Mike McLendon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HELP! TEN-TEC Omni-VI / PK-232 Audio distortion
Date: 9 Feb 1996 13:13:04 GMT
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In <4et3a3$[e-mail]> "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>With most Amateur radio equipment today the problem is not poor
decoupling
>but the accessory input is high impedance, this provided no loading
and no
>path to ground for thr prevailing RF that is in the radio room.  Using
the
>mic input which is usually 600 ohms or FSK connections are the
prefered
>methods of connnecting external devices.  Some times you might try a
>matching transformer in the audio circuit it hekps on Yaesus radios.
>
>The 600 ohm mic input generally willlprovide a sufficent load to the
>incoming TNC audio, and inpressed RF will usually go to ground.
>
>Gary
>

Gary - you make a good point: the nominal impedance is probably high at
both the mic input and its' bridged accessory input; but in the Ten Tec
Omni's case here the accessory audion in jack is NOT used - FSK-in is
used and the problem remains @&*^$@&*^@ makes me so mad...

Mike KE4END




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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: HELP! TEN-TEC Omni-VI / PK-232 Audio distortion
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Do you still have a connection to the audio input on the acc connection ?
FSK generally does not connect with the audio inputs, there should be no
cause for the TNC to be introducing this distortion.

Gary



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Subject: Re: High Speed Modems
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>>   [e-mail] (Christopher J Hansen) writes:
>  interested in speeds greater than 9600 bps.  Is there a reference
>  point for information in this area?  A website or mailing list
>  Chris Hansen, KA2WRG
>>>>


You may wish to check out the GRAPES Web site, they have a 56K system,

http://www.mindspring.com/~bobm/grapes/grapes.html

Georgia Radio Amateur Packet Enthusiasts Society has a very informative site..
..


Later,
Rich Elliott  KC7CDK
[e-mail]
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~relliott/


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Whiting)
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Subject: Re:High Speed Modems
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Christopher J
Hansen) writes:
>I am interested in information on high speed radio modems for
>amateur radio applications, such as packet.  Specifically, I am
>interested in speeds greater than 9600 bps.  Is there a reference
>point for information in this area?  A website or mailing list
>perhaps?  Please respond here or email me at [e-mail].

PacComm is marketing high speed modems. You can contact them at: 4413 N.
Hesperides St., Tampa, FL 33614-7618, phone [phone], e-mail
[e-mail].

Also take a look at the VFast28.8 GMSK Radio Modem at URL
http://ion.le.ac.uk/~djb2/vfast288.html.

73/Rick W0TN
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: High Speed Modems
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Christopher J Hansen
) writes:
>I am interested in information on high speed radio modems for
>amateur radio applications, such as packet.  Specifically, I am
>interested in speeds greater than 9600 bps.  Is there a reference
>point for information in this area?  A website or mailing list
>perhaps?  Please respond here or email me at [e-mail].

You might look at Bob Merrit's page, www.mindspring.com/~bobm.
Or you might want to experience 56 kb packet in action by looking
at Dale Heatherington's web page, www.wa4dsy.radio.org:80. One
of the links in the path to that page is carried over 56kb packet.
There's also a 28.8kb telco link in that path, so don't get too
depressed if it isn't as fast as you expect. Work is underway
to get the packet link connected directly to a T1 for net access,
but there's the little problem of a mountain in the way. :-)

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:17 1996
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From: Dietrich Morgenstern <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: homebuilt TNC ?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:11:20 +0100
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Gerd Roethig wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I wanted to homebrew a TNC for Packet Radio, based on the Z80 CPU.
>
> Are there any schematic diagrams for that?
>
> Also, I need the Firmware source codes.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
>
> Gerd
>
> P.S.: I am interested in information about the TNC3, too...
Gerd:
bei TAPR in Tucson bekommen Sie das Circuit Board fuer den TNC2 mit
allen UNterlagen und Schaltbild. ROM mit Software ebenfalls dort.

73 Dietrich DJ1VA at OE2XOM


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:18 1996
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From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: HTX 202 and BayPac TNC
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Your table shows the PTT as unused, which would allow it to receive or
monitor only.
The HTX-202, as with ICOM, combines the PTT and transmit audio on the
same line, i.e. the tip of the microphone plug connector.  You combine
the audio and PTT from the modem into the connector with a 10K
resistor and a .1 ufd capacitor like so:
                .1 uf
TX Aud (Yel) ---||-------------|
                               |---------------o tip of mic plug
PTT (red) --------\/\/\/-------|
                   10K resistor
Modem Ground-----------------------------------HTX202 ground


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|Jim Devenport   WB5AOX                                 |
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
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Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4fim3l$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wr
ites:
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes, that's completely in error. The Icom "standard" for up/down
>>>buttons is, the up button hard makes to ground to request an up step,
>>>the down button makes to ground through a 470 ohm resistor to request
>>>a down step. External voltage should *not* be applied to this pin at
>>>all, the uP supplies the sense voltage.
>>
>>The up/down line is connected directly to an analog input on the uP,
>>and there is a 4.7k pull-up resistor; I don't think this will be
>>much use with a 470 ohm pull down.  I tend to believe the voltage
>>is supplied by the microphone in this case, and I'll measure it
>>sometime and update the FAQ, unless someone meaures it first and
>>lets me know.
>
>This is exactly how it works, Dana. I have the schematics for all
>the Icom mikes, and have repaired more than a few. Trust me, hard
>to ground for UP, to ground through a 470 ohm resistor for DOWN.
>No voltage is sourced on this line by the microphone. It should
>be simple enough for you to test this. Short the pin to ground,
>the radio steps UP, short the pin to ground via a 470 ohm resistor,
>the radio steps DOWN. Apply external voltage to this pin at your
>peril.

Of course, Gary is correct...I'll have to update the FAQ..

thanks!!

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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!)
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In article <4fg5f0$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wri
tes:
>Here's a little contribution to those with IC-2000s.  I've crossposted
>to rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc for those wishing to connect a
>1200 baud TNC to the IC-2000.
>
>Please send me updates or corrections...
[snip]
>Notes:
>
>* The +8V source looks like it is intended to run the DTMF encoder in
>the standard Icom microphone.  I wouldn't draw more than 10mA or
>so from this pin.

The +8 volts is to power the FET in the electret mic element.
Icom specs the *maximum* current to be drawn from this pin as 10mA.

>* The up/down signal appears to be an analog input; the service manual
>says "Up: 5.0V, Down: 0.0V, Off: 5.0V", but I believe this is an error;
>I suspect it is more like 5.0V for up, 0V for down and 2.5V for off,
>but I haven't measured it yet.  Under no circumstances exceed 5V
>on this line, since it is connected to the embedded microcomputer,
>and make certain to include some series resistance, say 1k.

Yes, that's completely in error. The Icom "standard" for up/down
buttons is, the up button hard makes to ground to request an up step,
the down button makes to ground through a 470 ohm resistor to request
a down step. External voltage should *not* be applied to this pin at
all, the uP supplies the sense voltage.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:22 1996
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From: [e-mail](Rich B.)
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Date: 13 Feb 1996 16:41:39 GMT
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Can anyone explain to someone used to the AEA CP-1 and is now interested in
Hamcom. Just what is a P59+ , where does it come from, what does it do for
the Hamcom 3.0
Email
[e-mail]

or place a note here
--

Rich B.


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff De Long)
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Subject: internet forwarding poll
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I just received a negative response on my bbs about forwarding mail via the
internet. Thought I would post on this news group and see what other hams
thought about internet forwarding. I am for it.


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:23 1996
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From: David Hough <[e-mail]>
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In article <4fj9q4$[e-mail]>
   [e-mail] (Jeff De Long) writes:
> I just received a negative response on my bbs about forwarding mail via the
> internet. Thought I would post on this news group and see what other hams
> thought about internet forwarding. I am for it.

Depends on whether you consider yourself to be a *radio* amateur or not.
Using non-amateur means to forward mail is OK to bypass a broken RF link
but should not be considered as a permanent replacement for that link.

Dave
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:24 1996
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Jeff De Long ([e-mail]) wrote:
> I just received a negative response on my bbs about forwarding mail via the
> internet. Thought I would post on this news group and see what other hams
> thought about internet forwarding. I am for it.

I am not.

The reason: using internet for message transfer has nothing to do with
amateur radio. Or should we rename out hobby to amateur communicators ?

The next step : let the radio amateurs use internet to connect to the local
(packet?) bbs.

The last step (from the government): sell the amateur bands to the highest
bidder.

73 Joop, pe1dna
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Walker)
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Subject: Re: Internet via high frequency packet radio in Africa?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:32:43 GMT
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On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:24:54 GMT, [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
wrote:

>In article <4fb1ln$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tim Maude) wri
tes:
>>I am considering a job in Africa.  Internet service provider not
>>available because the phones don't work.  Can you help with some
>>answers to these questions?
>>1. Can high frequency packet connect me to internet for mail (first
>>priority) or WWW. ?
>
>Email, sort of. WWW, forget it. HF packet is limited to 300 baud.
>
>>2. Would I need anything more than radio, antenna, TNC , software and
>>knowledge?
>
>A license and a cooperating station on the other end are the only
>other things you'd need. (Plus some prayers to the propagation gods
>couldn't hurt.)
>
>>3. What kind of bandwidth can I get out of HF packet?
>
>Dreadful. The speed is limited to 300 baud, which is bad enough,
>but because amateur packet doesn't use FEC, and HF is noisy, real
>throughput can be measured with an hourglass.
>
>>4. Would satellite UHF be a better option.  The site is on the
>>equator.
>
>If you can afford it, Immarsat data terminals (2400 baud) are
>available. Terminal prices approach $10,000, and connect time
>charges are measured in dollars per minute.
>
>OTOH, you could use amateur radio store and forward satellites.
>It would be Email only, but fairly simple equipment can be used,
>and there are no connect time charges. Speed is 9600 baud too.
>As with all other amateur radio approaches, however, there are
>content restrictions, IE no business communications, no dirty
>words, etc.
>
>Gary
>--
>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |
Or, alternatively, you CAN, quite reliably, use 1200 baud Phase Shift
Keying (PSK) TNC's on H.F. Radio. Many are operating on the amateur
radio frequencies from about 14.105 to about 14.109 or thereabouts.
They sound like a chainsaw when you hear 'em. Tuning, on your
receiver, is fairly critical and may need some patience until the
screen fills up with intelligible stuff remebering that the packet
radio BBS's forwarding on those frequencies also compress their data
to cut down transmission time. That will make the stuff look a bit
unintelligible but much of it will NOT be compressed and after the
patient tuning (depends on the quality of your receiver's tuning dial,
as well, and the tuning resolution it offers) it will all come clear.

Try the G3RUH PSK modem kit and this will give 1200 baud on H.F.
There are a couple of commercial TNC manufacturers who offer 1200 baud
PSK TNC's (Terminal Node Controllers). I have a Telereader Allmode
Terminal Node Controller TNC-24 MkII which is popular but I know there
are other commercial units. The TNC acts as an interface between your
radio and the computer and decodes the packet radio information as it
comes in off the radio into intelligent serial data which it feeds
down (and takes data out of) your COM port on your computer.
Use a simple telephone modem program to send an receive this data but,
better still, use a dedicated Packet Radio software program to get
greater ease of use and more features specific to the utilities
available with this mode......

Kindest regards,
Bob

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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Internet via high frequency packet radio in Africa?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4fb1ln$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tim Maude) writ
es:
>I am considering a job in Africa.  Internet service provider not
>available because the phones don't work.  Can you help with some
>answers to these questions?
>1. Can high frequency packet connect me to internet for mail (first
>priority) or WWW. ?

Email, sort of. WWW, forget it. HF packet is limited to 300 baud.

>2. Would I need anything more than radio, antenna, TNC , software and
>knowledge?

A license and a cooperating station on the other end are the only
other things you'd need. (Plus some prayers to the propagation gods
couldn't hurt.)

>3. What kind of bandwidth can I get out of HF packet?

Dreadful. The speed is limited to 300 baud, which is bad enough,
but because amateur packet doesn't use FEC, and HF is noisy, real
throughput can be measured with an hourglass.

>4. Would satellite UHF be a better option.  The site is on the
>equator.

If you can afford it, Immarsat data terminals (2400 baud) are
available. Terminal prices approach $10,000, and connect time
charges are measured in dollars per minute.

OTOH, you could use amateur radio store and forward satellites.
It would be Email only, but fairly simple equipment can be used,
and there are no connect time charges. Speed is 9600 baud too.
As with all other amateur radio approaches, however, there are
content restrictions, IE no business communications, no dirty
words, etc.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Sosnin)
Subject: Landline BBS and TNC Door
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Where can I find a program that I can use with my Landline BBS so that
users can access my TNC and gate over to packet on 2 meters. There are
Hams in the area that would probably like to do this so they can see
if they want to spend the money for packet equipment. It will give
them a taste of what they could be enjoying. It needs to me a DOS
based program.

Thanks for any help.

David Sosnin
N4TTN
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:29 1996
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Can anyone tell me some GOOD logging software that I can use for my
Ham Radio Log? I can use either Windows based or DOS based. If you
could tell me where to find it and a little bit about it would be
great.

Thanks

N4TTN






From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schwarz)
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Subject: Maritime TCP/IP or AX.25?
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Hello, I'm new to the group so please forgive me if I'm posting
"off base."  I'm N0ZES but I'm asking this question on behalf of a
friend who's going off on an "around the world" sailing trip.  They'll
have GPS and maritime radio and all those goodies, but they're asking
me about having Internet access on the trip.

(They know I do TCP/IP via packet).

I told them that they can get licensed and do packet, but that most
packet is VHF/UHF which is only to the horizon.  I told them that they
*can* do packet via HF, but the baud rates are low and the reliability
even lower.  Basically, I said to them that they need a 300-baud
acoustic coupled modem and they dial in at ports of call.  They'll
do that (they'll be in ports where more advanced modems are virtually
certain not to work!).  Finally, I said the only solution that seemed
viable to me was some sort of satellite based communications.

I'm *totally* ignorant of satellite communications, both ham and non-ham.
I wonder if anyone in this group has any info on digital satellite
TCP/IP, packet, or even satellite "cellular" (which would let them use
a modem).

Any suggestions for my (much richer than me) friend?

Please reply by e-mail to [e-mail] or [e-mail]

Thanks and 73s!

--
Michael A. Schwarz                           Minneapolis, MN
[e-mail]                  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:31 1996
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From: [e-mail](Mike McLendon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: MFJ-1278B/Ten-Tec Omni V -> FSK problem!
Date: 9 Feb 1996 13:19:54 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Felix G. Sassano, M.D.) writes:
>
>My MFJ-1278B TNC has an 8 pin IDC connector that will allow me to hook
up
>an FSK connection to my Ten-Tec Omni V. (one pin ground, one pin FSK).
I
>normally hook up the TNC/HF rig using the AFSK mode with a cable (DIN
5
>plug that allows me to hook up to the HF rig using the PTT, Audio IN
and
>Audio OUT plugs on the back of the Ten-Tec....worked fine.  When I
plugged
>the FSK cable to the Mark-Space plug on the rear of the Ten-Tec (as
per
>manual), I can not key the HF rig. (PTT, audio IN & audio OUT are
being
>used). The RTTY plug on the Ten-Tec is to ground and I get key-down
when I
>use it.  Can I tap into the original PTT cable or am I missing
something?
>
>Thanks and 73
>
>de KC1H
>
>--
>"primum non nocere"

Hello Felix,

I suggest you use the original AFSK cable but do not connect to the
audio in on the Omni (you don't need it if you are using FSK).

I had to invert the 1278 mark space  to make my setup work with the
Omni, but I haven't had any PTT problems. Good luck Dr. S. and let us
know what you found.

73 Mke KE4END




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Howard Goldstein)
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Subject: Re: MFJ-1278B/Ten-Tec Omni V -> FSK problem!
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On 6 Feb 1996 04:35:46 GMT, Felix G. Sassano, M.D. <[e-mail]> wrote:
 : My MFJ-1278B TNC has an 8 pin IDC connector that will allow me to hook up
 : an FSK connection to my Ten-Tec Omni V. (one pin ground, one pin FSK). I
 : normally hook up the TNC/HF rig using the AFSK mode with a cable (DIN 5
 : plug that allows me to hook up to the HF rig using the PTT, Audio IN and
 : Audio OUT plugs on the back of the Ten-Tec....worked fine.  When I plugged
 : the FSK cable to the Mark-Space plug on the rear of the Ten-Tec (as per
 : manual), I can not key the HF rig. (PTT, audio IN & audio OUT are being
 : used). The RTTY plug on the Ten-Tec is to ground and I get key-down when I
 : use it.  Can I tap into the original PTT cable or am I missing something?

No, you have it right.  Use the original PTT line.  On my TS850S I
just leave everything hooked up the way it was for AFSK (which
includes the PTT) and it works fine.  The FSK keying goes out the
other cable.


--
Howard Goldstein              <[e-mail]>     http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx
/



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: MFJ-1278B/Ten-Tec Omni V -> FSK problem!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] wri
tes:
>My MFJ-1278B TNC has an 8 pin IDC connector that will allow me to hook up
>an FSK connection to my Ten-Tec Omni V. (one pin ground, one pin FSK). I
>normally hook up the TNC/HF rig using the AFSK mode with a cable (DIN 5
>plug that allows me to hook up to the HF rig using the PTT, Audio IN and
>Audio OUT plugs on the back of the Ten-Tec....worked fine.  When I plugged
>the FSK cable to the Mark-Space plug on the rear of the Ten-Tec (as per
>manual), I can not key the HF rig. (PTT, audio IN & audio OUT are being
>used). The RTTY plug on the Ten-Tec is to ground and I get key-down when I
>use it.  Can I tap into the original PTT cable or am I missing something?

It would appear that Ten-Tec intends you to use the RTTY jack on their
radio for PTT during RTTY operation, and use the Mark-Space jack for
modulation. Therefore, simply connect the TNC PTT out line to the
Ten-Tec RTTY jack when you want to operate RTTY. I'm sure this is explained
in the Ten-Tec manual under RTTY operation.

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ashtabula2)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MY NEW EXPERIENCE.....  PLS READ
Date: 8 Feb 1996 07:13:37 -0500
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Hello everyone,

     I am very new to this SW and SAT stufff, well last night I decided to
give it a shot...  I dloaded a piece of software to track satellites, and
found a FAQ in requards to the subject.  I ran the software and setup on a
paticular SAT. RS-12/13, I couldnt believe it, it reached the bahamas and
I started to hear a faint beacon, as it went north it got stronger.  WHAT
A RUSH, I loved it, man this stuff is fun....  If anyone has any SAT info
in reguards to Weather sat PICS, I would love to here from ya, as I am a
weather nut........ THANX IN ADVANCE!!!

73's
JEFF


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul J. Piercey (VO1HE))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: need help using a laptop computer for packet...
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 02:59:28 GMT
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In article <4f8rm5$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Sherwin Lim) wrote:
>hello all...
>can anyone help me how to connect my KPC-3 tnc to my laptop?
the
>connection from the tnc to the computer requires an RS-232
serial port
>with a DB-25 connector... but my laptop only has a 9 pin
serial port.
>
>any suggestions as to how to connect my tnc to my laptop?
>
>sherwin ve7hqt
>
>
>
Check out a local computer store and pick up a serial cable
with a 9 pin female on one end and a 25 pin male on the
other. I have one that is only 12in long and is great for
portable operations. the pins should be connected properly.
Just make sure it's not a null-modem cable.

============================================================================
Paul J. Piercey

VO1HE
[44.135.16.3]

Packet Address     VO1HE@VO1AAA.#ENF.NF.CAN.NOAM
Internet Address   [e-mail]
============================================================================


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jon Welch)
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Subject: New Packet Shareware Home Page
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Hi All,

I would just like to announce that I have set up a small Home Page on the
WWW to act as a support site for my range of Shareware Packet Radio TNC
Driver Software.

I have written three programs which run under DOS on IBM-PC Compatible
computers.

The programs shares a common feature set and user interface but offer extra
facilities specific to the configuration it is running on. These include
integrated Personal Mail System with FBB compatible compressed forwarding,
split screen or full screen display, 500 line scroll back buffer with
search facilities, pop up menu driven YAPP and ASCII file transfer
facilities, connect directory, directory browser with comprehensive file
viewer, file and notepad editor, clipboard editor with associated
functions, UUencode and UUdecode of files, 7PLUS encoding and decoding of
files, REQDIR and REQFIL facilities with automatic uuencoding or 7PLUS
encoding of binary REQFIL requests, simple to use yet sophisticated script
language for automatic operation, timed execution of script files, a screen
blanker, FBB header broadcast support plus many more.

The three versions are :

    TNCV142 for use with a standard TNC

    MUBAY102 for use with a Baycom modem or KISS mode TNC

    MUTNC205 for use with the BPQ software


To hopefully encourage you to access the site and download the software, I
am running a weekly Free Prize Draw offering a Free registration to any of
the above programs to the lucky winner.

The URL for the site is :

    http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwelch

Please drop by and take a look.

Bye for now,

Jon.

/=====================================+======================================\
| [e-mail]      Internet |       Providing Support For :        |
| G7JJF @ GB7MAM.#23.GBR.EU      AX25 |     TNCV142, MUTNC205, MUBAY102      |
+=====================================+======================================+
|           Latest Versions Of TNC Driver Softare Available From :           |
|              http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwelch               |
\============================================================================/


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff McLeman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: One Radio with jnos and kpc-9612
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 15:23:20 GMT
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[e-mail] (Paul B. Schou) wrote:

>Has anyone tried using a single radio on both ports of a kpc-9612?
>1200 Baud to the regular mike and audio connectors and 9600 to the
>modified i/o connectors. Will the jnos attach and attach kiss commands
>handle multiple speed inputs from the same radio? I sort of doubt it,
>but thought I'd ask before attacking the hardware.


>Hillsmere Shores - Annapolis, MD USA - Sailing Capital of the World
>Internet: [e-mail]  -  Packet: [e-mail]

I don't know if this is possible, but I believe the Kenwood 733A has
separate outputs for 1200 and 9600 on the Packet connector. It might
be possible to use the same radio for 1200 baud 2meter and 9600 baud
440Mhz.

But again, I have never tried this, and probobly won't for a
while.....

Jeff -- KD1IT

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Jeff McLeman                     [e-mail]
AT&T Wireless Services, Inc.
Wireless Data Division
Kirkland, Wa.                   attmail!jeffmc

http://www.airdata.com/

"Wireless in Seattle!"
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James H. Haynes)
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Subject: One Week to Green Key Night (& Day)
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Remember Feb 20 is Green Key Night (& Day) - commemorate the beginning of
RTTY on the HF bands.  Not a contest, no rules, no score, but
   Use a mechanical teleprinter if you can
   Use vacuum tube gear if you can
   Use 850 Hz shift if you can
   Wallow in nostalgia and above all have fun!


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ashtabula2)
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Subject: PACKET
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Hello everyone,

     Is it possible to RECIEVE ONLY packet via the hamcom/JVFAX
interface??  Any help would be greatly appreciated

73'S

JEFF


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:41 1996
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From: "David B. Henderson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
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[e-mail] (Brian Kantor) wrote:
>[e-mail] writes:
>>Using a voice frequency repeater for packet radio as a digi is NOT so uncomm
on.
>
>In common usage among most packet people, a 'digi' is a device that
>stores one or more packets and then retransmits them as soon as the
>channel is clear, without hop-to-hop acknowledgements.  The
>retransmission is NOT simultaneous as it is in a voice repeater.

In addition, one has to consider:
(a) the implications this would have on the collision domain of the frame; and
(b) the impact of the filtering, phase 'mangling', etc. of the repeater's audi
o
train on the frame - as Brian pointed out, the digital information is not
recovered and then re-encoded on a voice repeater -- it is shipped 'straight t
hrough'.

David.
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:42 1996
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From: Robert Barron <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 09:38:33 -0600
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Brian Ellsworth wrote:
>
> On 1 Feb 1996 23:56:14 GMT, Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> >3) using a VOICE rptr channel for packet is poor spectrum
> >usage...it would be wasting a rptr channel that voice users could
> >use...
>
> Oh sure and everyone knows that all the voice repeaters are SOOOOOO
> busy with important stuff and all.
>
> Putting a packet repeater on the wasteland of idle voice machines
> sounds like a great idea. And it's totally legal as well. You'll have
> a ton of trouble with the ol' boyz repeater co-ordination clubs
> though.

I agree.  Using a repeater for packet is NOT poor spectrum usage.  In
many cases using a simplex channel is poor usage since the throughput
on that frequency is often so bad due to hidden transmitters, etc.
A couple of people here in Austin, TX are going to set up a 440MHz
repeater for the local PacketCluster.  It should provide a big
improvement over the current situation.  Of course moving to 9600 baud
should also help.  :-)

73,

Robert, KA5WSS
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:44 1996
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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Date: 7 Feb 1996 19:25:19 GMT
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A repeater is a repeater, whether it carries voice or data, and
must operate in the repeater segments of the bands. SERA
coordinates
all pairs in the repeater segments impartially. Simplex packet
is
a thornier problem. That usage takes place in what has
traditionally
been uncoordinated spectrum. SERA has opted to work with State
packet
organizations to deal with this. Each State's packet group is
allowed
to act as coordinator for simplex packet.
-------------------------------------------------------
I disagree....if a duplex packet digi is set up ONLY to pass data
and NOT voice, it is a digi-peater and can operate ANYWHERE in
the band it wants to...just like a simplex digi....NOW if it is
an analog rptr that passes ANYTHING, then it must remain in the
repeater subbands....but to pass ONLY AX.25 packets, it is free
to go anywhere it wishes

Chris
Ex Board of Directors member and life member- TX VHF FM Society;
RF Technical Director - Texas Coastal Amateur Packet Society
(TCAPS)

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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bryan Curl)
Subject: Re: Paket for Windows
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In article <4eoq2h$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>In article <4emcsi$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Pete..)
>writes:
>
>>[e-mail] (Bryan Curl) wrote:
>
>>>Please don't bother sending info on WINPACK (a program out of Europe).
>>>I looked at it and must say, it fits the mode of most European software
>>>I've had the opportunity to try...feeble at best. The author of this
>>>piece admits he hated evry minute writing it, and it shows.
>
>> I think you are extremely impolite in your response.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>Amen!  I think Roger has done a fantastic job with WinPack - obviously
>Bryan hasn't gotten beyond appliance operator.
>
>Rod - KB3MK

Sorry Pete...Sometimes the truth hurts. Perhaps alt.collecting.teddy-bears
is more for you.

I couldn't help but to notice an appliance operators callsign on Rods Sig.

Thanks to the folks that had serious replys.



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (W.F.Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: problems in Packet Radio..???? Solution, now!
Date: 7 Feb 1996 10:37:00 GMT
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In <4e92q6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Coyote) writes:

>If do you have problems with packet-radio, you have one solution downloading
the file "TALION18.ARJ" in
>FTP.FUNET.FI/HAM/PACKET/TERMINAL.

Directory entry:
 talion18.arj    30-Nov-95 00:17   663K

The index says:
 talion18.arj    Talion Packet Terminal (Shareware) in Spanish

>The problems are over.

... unless you don't speak Spanish :-)

73 Django


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:46 1996
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From: Francisco Costa <[e-mail]>
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Subject: PSE HELP Kenwood TM-455 + 9600 baud
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Hi

My friend RUI, CT1EIF has a new TM-455E(Europe version).
He tried to connect his 9600 baud tnc to the rig, but without sucess.
Decoding data is 100% ok, but no data is sent out!
All cables, connectors and tnc are OK.
The radio is suposed to be "1200/9600 ready", but it just doesn't work!
It seem other guy's in Europe are complaining about the same problem.

Is it a E version problem???

Do you know why this happen???

Have you any solution???

And what about covering other freqs. Is it possible to "open" the rig's
range???

I'll apreciate very much your help.
Many thanks in advance.
Best 73's from CT1EAT



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: re packet on voice repeaters
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:34:13 GMT
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Hi All!
In Brian Kantor's posting, he differentiates between a 'digi' and a
'digipeater'. Thanks, Brian, I had never thought there might be a
difference between the two. In common usage, here in Australia, the
word 'digi' is used as a contraction of the word 'digipeater' and,
therefore, the words both mean the same thing(at least here and N.Z.).

I guess there must be some cultural/national differences between using
the terms. Here in Australia (and New Zealand) the digi's are not
similtaneous devices (usually!) and they accept a digital signal and
send it out again once it has reassembled the packet/s but not whilst
it is receiving the original packet/s. There are SOME plans around
Australia for hill-top linear translators which do not re-assemble the
packet but "translate" it to another frequency. My understanding is
that these translators just heterodyne the incoming RF signal,
whatever its content or protocol (TCP/IP or vanilla AX25) to another
output frequency. I believe that the guys in VK1 (Australian Capital
Territory or ACT) were toying with the idea because it was not
conscious of the protocols it was sent and would retransmit all it was
sent without change other than frequency. They, like myself. enjoy
fiddlin' with TCP/IP a lot and they didn't have too much cash around
to go building full scale mountain-top computer/TNC combinations which
would handle multi protocol, multi speed (baud rates) for all the
possible combinations of modes, protocols, and speeds that flash
around the amateur radio spectrum in  Canberra, the National Capital
of Australia. It is my contention that something like a Kam Data
Engine with it's ROMS blown with JNOS4.0 would do that trick just as
well but, perhaps, not as cheaply. That will do multi protocols, AX25
vanilla packet AND TCP/IP and at a number of different baud rates on a
number of different frequencies, depending on the configuration and
the hardware hanging off it (radio's, any additional TNC's etc.).

Anyway, it was originally a topic about using voice repeaters for
digital modes. I made a statement in my original posting that some
voice repeaters here in the country areas in Australia and in New
Zealand (my home country) are used, oftimes in the wee small hours,
for BBS forwarding and file transfers between other areas where there
is no reliable or available digipeater paths (refer to my note above
for the definition). Like many countries, the major metropolitan
centres, the cities etc., have good digital paths (mostly at 1200 baud
though there are some 4800 and 9600 baud BBS and NOS forwarding paths
but not, generally, for the actual users at their keyboards). The
country areas, with a less well populated amateur fraternity, often
make do with whatever is conveniently available and this can be, in a
few areas in Australia, a voice repeater on 2 metres being used as a
digital mode path to another BBS or TCP/IP station.

Kindest regards,
Bob

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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:48 1996
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I am an undergraduate at Exeter University who desperately needs a RDS
Demodulator chip for my final year project.  I had one on order but the
supplier has just announced that there is a 40 WEEK! waiting list. The
chip I am after is a TDA 7330 or equivalent but any RDS demodulator will do!

If you have one or Know anyone who has please leave a message here or email me
.



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sune Nyholm)
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Hello!
A new Bulletine Board System on WWW specialy made for questions and answers
about PacCom, BayCom and TEKK products. The board will be increased with
more areas in the future. Please check in and post some questions or answers
if you have any!

adress:

http://www.algonet.se/~sm2irz/wwwboard/board.htm

73 Sune



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:51 1996
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From: Nidge Jones <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: SEX: Can J/TNOS for Linux run without a terminal?
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "C. T. Nadovich" writes:

> [e-mail] (C. T. Nadovich) writes:
>
> >Is there a Unix version of J/TNOS (or some easy hack) that allows this
> >program to be started at boot time and run in the background? I hate
> >having to start it and waste a terminal (even a virtural one!).

If you are running Tnos under linux then the Tnos FAQ file will tell you
how to edit your inittab file to start Tnos at boot - and also if need be
get the kernel to ping tnos every 15 minutes to make sure it hasn't crashed.
If it has linux it will kill the tnos process and restart it !

If you have problems get yourself on the Tnos mailing list (agn see faq).

--

Nidge Jones
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andre Mense)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Wanted : Baycom manual
Date: 11 Feb 1996 04:15:00 GMT
Organization: Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam
Lines: 6
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Hi all,
I'm working with a homemade Baycom modem and software, and I'm looking for a
manual or FAQ or Readme on how to use the software. An older version is most
welcom as well. Maybe I will translate it in Dutch. Please email to
[e-mail]  ; 73 de PE1HWO



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 96 03:53:15 GMT
Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service
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Hi,

        Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for
the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should
have ie. NORD><LINK enhancements etc.)? I don't know anything
about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere
although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version.

        Thanks.

73 de 9V1ZV Daniel


 Daniel Wee | [e-mail]
 9V1ZV      | [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:53 1996
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From: Thomas M Allen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2
Date: 13 Feb 1996 17:04:16 GMT
Organization: Thank You, but no.
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To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) wrote:
>       Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for
>the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should
>have ie. NORD><LINK enhancements etc.)? I don't know anything
>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere
>although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version.

WA8DED's host mode firmware is available on the TAPR ftp site. The
"latest" is at least three years old, however.

--------------------------------------
Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Subich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: White Pages Server
Date: 11 Feb 1996 22:51:37 GMT
Organization: RAMLink Internet Access Service
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In message <4f764u$[e-mail]> - Bill Choisser <[e-mail]> writes:
:>
:>The National WP database is now at N6IYA.#CENCA.CA.USA.NOAM located
:>near Santa Cruz, CA.
:>
:>You're right about AD8I.  He was the national server prior to IYA.
:>
:>73, Larry, WB9LOZ@W6PW.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
:>[e-mail]
:>San Francisco
:>
:>

This is one of the major problems with all of the autofrowarding systems -
every regional clique has to "capture" the national WP server in their own
area.  When I ceased operation the National WP database was turned over to
K1LT in the Columbus Ohio area (the area that I was leaving).  K1LT is
relatively centrally located and has connectivity via a hidden transmitter
free high speed (> 9K6) network to stations on all of the major HF packet
forwarding networks providing high efficiency updates and responses.

However, it now seems that regional groups on the west coast, Florida, New
England and how many others I can't even determine have set up their own
"supreme WP server" ... I'll bet the servers don't even bother to send
updates any more.

In any case, my relocation was a blessing in disguise ... It forced me to
pull the plug on operations and allowed me to see the political *BS* for
what it really is.  The new rules allowing unattended "semi-automatic"
operation in any portion of the CW band, the notorious inability of
amateurs to cooperate with each other, and the political *BS* have made
a shambles of the system many of us worked so hard to build over nearly
a decade.

73,

    ... Joe Subich, AD8I
        ([e-mail])



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:55 1996
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From: Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ?
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 08:33:25 -0700
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
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Pete.. wrote:
>
> Hello ALL
>
> Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets.  He has
> uploaded it not a number of phone BBS's.
>


It is on teleco..com in directory /in.comming that is not a typo.
However
as of 03:50 UTC on the 8th the protections were set wrong and it could
not
be downloaded. Perhaps someone at telecom could address this problem.



73 de Jerry


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Bramwell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ? Here!
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 22:03:34 GMT
Organization: Western Business School
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>Pete.. wrote:
>>
>> Hello ALL
>>
>> Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets.  He has
>> uploaded it not a number of phone BBS's.
>>

It is on hamster.business.uwo.ca in pub/packet
The Amsoft CD-Rom is also online at the same site.



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eddie Seymour)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ? Here!
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:53:44 GMT
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On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 22:03:34 GMT, [e-mail] (Mark
Bramwell) wrote:

>
>>Pete.. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello ALL
>>>
>>> Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets.
>It is on hamster.business.uwo.ca in pub/packet
>The Amsoft CD-Rom is also online at the same site.
This site has Winpack 5.13 in this location- I did not see 5.4.
Does anyone have a location on 5.4 yet? Thanks

Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
E-Mail [e-mail]
Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete..)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ? Here!
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:38:33 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA
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I just got it from MSN !!!.  If you know someone that has access to
it, it's there !!!

[e-mail] (Eddie Seymour) wrote:

>On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 22:03:34 GMT, [e-mail] (Mark
>Bramwell) wrote:

>>
>>>Pete.. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello ALL
>>>>
>>>> Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets.
>>It is on hamster.business.uwo.ca in pub/packet
>>The Amsoft CD-Rom is also online at the same site.
>This site has Winpack 5.13 in this location- I did not see 5.4.
>Does anyone have a location on 5.4 yet? Thanks

>Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
>E-Mail [e-mail]
>Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam

Cheers..Peter

e-mail: [e-mail]
ax25:[e-mail] (for those that underestand)

The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer
does not have the right to use my opinions..



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:55:59 1996
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From: Joe Laganga <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WTB: NETROM firmware
Date: 12 Feb 1996 02:54:41 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
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Message-ID: <4fma5h$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup793.chicago.mci.net

I'm looking for a place to buy (?) firmware to turn a
PK-88 TNC into a NETROM node. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance..Joe N1EZO/8


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:56:00 1996
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From: spiro evagelakos ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: WTB:5KW AM Transmitter
Date: 12 Feb 1996 10:19:25 GMT
Organization: ACAY Network Computing P/L, Sydney AUSTRALIA.
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This time I am after a second hand 5KW  AM Transmitter

Regards
Spiro


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:56:00 1996
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From: spiro evagelakos ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: WTB:AMATURE TRANSMITTER @ 160MTRS
Date: 12 Feb 1996 10:15:25 GMT
Organization: ACAY Network Computing P/L, Sydney AUSTRALIA.
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Hi ,
I am after a second hand amature transmitter for the 160mtr band

Regards
Spiro


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:56:01 1996
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From: spiro evagelakos ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: WTB:LINEAR AMPLIFIER FOR 160MTR BAND
Date: 12 Feb 1996 10:17:15 GMT
Organization: ACAY Network Computing P/L, Sydney AUSTRALIA.
Lines: 5
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Hi ,
I am after a second hand  linear Amplifier for the 160mtr band

Regards
Spiro


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:56:02 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: WWW Mac Ham User Group Home Page
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:20:39 GMT
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                 John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| E-mail: [e-mail]
          144 Pepperidge Drive |_|   |_| WWW http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
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                 [See Latest Digital Scope.FAQ on my Home Page]

        We must believe in free will. We have no choice. (I.B. Singer)


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 13 20:56:03 1996
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From: "Stan R. Coleman" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WX Radio now transmitting FSK
Date: 13 Feb 1996 19:37:20 GMT
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To: This,is,a,Test....Looking,for,information

I'm looking for anyone who has more information on the new WX alert
System.  It's a system that not only starts Weather Radio's (Like the
ones at Radio Shack), but it transmits FSK signal with County, Weather
Alert, Type of Alert, Duration, etc. information as well.  If any one has
any OFF THE SHELF PRODUCTS that I can use to decode this signal, let me
know.  What I want to do is to use this information to bring up a series
of Repeaters Using DTMF signals, and then to play the WX Radio audio over
the repeaters.  So first I need to decode the FSK signal then sort the
information as to County, etc. then to bring up the Repeater or
Repeaters.  I know I'm rambling but maybe you can read between the lines.
 I would need to have a FSK decoder (Modem) and a DTMF generator, plus
maybe a microprocessor to make all this work.  ANY IDEAS OR QUESTIONS
PLEAS E-MAIL ME!!!!



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:22 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: APRS 2MTR FREQ???
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:51:17 UNDEFINED
Organization: Pacific Gas & Electric Co.
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I'm a newbie APRS type (just installed the shareware version) and haven't a
clue as to which frequency in my area might yield some results. I'm located
near San Luis Obispo, California........so is there a common frequency that
APRS traffic is passed on?

The blank map is getting terribly boring


Thanks,

Shawn WB6JWB



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:23 1996
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Broadcasting Radio Station Database for you......
Date: 12 Feb 1996 04:04:46 GMT
Organization: Orchid City Software
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Friend,

A fully functional standalone Broadcasting Radio Station Database for IBM
and compatibles with more than 4,000 Radio Station records already.  This
program covers stations on Longwave, Mediumwave, and Shortwave.  Each
record contains the Station name, Frequencies, Schedule, Languages,
Country, and Continent.  The program sorts in same order.

What's needed to get it?  Your EMail address and your Postal Mailing
address for registration and future information via Post of other Radio
Related Database programs.  This information will be kept confidential.

If you can read a document written in MS Word(extension is DOC), request
the operating instructions for the Radio Station Database Program called
Voyageur.  You'll get an idea from reading this document of the Voyageur
Database and what it does.

Incidently, the program offered with this notice is valid until June 6,
1996.

Hope to hear from you..

Chuck

KA4PRF





From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:24 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Contesters E-mail List....
Date: 14 Feb 96 01:04:05 GMT
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Originator: [e-mail]


Dear Fellows,

        First of all my apologize for trouble in forwarding
part of the list... I have the complete list and I already
forwarded to DX-Reflector.
        I received that list from George Fremim, WB5VZL, at
E-mail:  [e-mail]
        He made excellent job, congratulations George!
        Thank you for your best understanding.
Vy best 73 & DX's de PS7KM,
============================================================
       Karl M Leite, Natal, RN, Brazil, South America
           E-mail:- [e-mail]
============================================================
* UniQWK #1812* Please, remember - DXman never sleep!!!!



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:25 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: F.S. Laptop Toshiba 1000 DFW area only.
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:44:06 -0600
Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc  (login info (214/488-2590 - 817/571-0400))
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Toshiba laptop T1000. This unit has a floppy disk and is in good
working condition. It works fine when hooked up to a TNC.

The original 1.8 amp nicads were replaced with 2.2 nicads about 2 years ago.
The operational time with the 1.8 nicads was around 4 hours. I would guess
the new opearional time with the 2.2 nicads would be between 6 and 7 hours.

Included are a carrying case and a portable fax/modem 96/24. The portable
fax/modem can operated via internal battery or wall power.

I used the laptop for packet when I was the District Communication Officer for
 the
L.A. County Races group. Otherwise the unit has not been used.

Looking for aroun $200 for the package. Would also consider some trading.

73 Charles N6MIT




From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:26 1996
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Subject: F.S. Toshiba Laptop T-1000 Great for Packet.
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Toshiba laptop T1000. This unit has a floppy disk and is in good
working condition. It works fine when hooked up to a TNC.

The original 1.8 amp nicads were replaced with 2.2 nicads about 2 years ago.
The operational time with the 1.8 nicads was around 4 hours. I would guess
the new opearional time with the 2.2 nicads would be between 6 and 7 hours.

Included are a carrying case and a portable fax/modem 96/24. The portable
fax/modem can operated via internal battery or wall power.

I used the laptop for packet when I was the District Communication Officer for
 the
L.A. County Races group. Otherwise the unit has not been used.

Looking for aroun $200 for the package. Would also consider some trading.

73 Charles N6MIT



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Hi where is WinFBB for packet radio BBS ????

Tanks you...


Carlos Espadas

XE3XEX

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Meredith)
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Carlos Espadas <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi where is WinFBB for packet radio BBS ????

>Tanks you...


>Carlos Espadas

>XE3XEX

>[e-mail]

WINFBB Has Not Yet Been Released...Upon the Release,  it will be
available on the U.S. F6FBB Support BBS:  [phone]-33,600
V.34+


Daniel




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From: [e-mail] (Dean R. Madsen KE0WO)
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In <4fm4ad$[e-mail]> Carlos Espadas <[e-mail].m
x> writes:

>Hi where is WinFBB for packet radio BBS ????

It hasn't been released yet.  Last projection of a release date I saw
was March.

73,
Dean - KE0WO

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dean R Madsen, KE0WO                        Computer Science Major        +
+ Internet: [e-mail]               Iowa State Univeristy         +
+             [e-mail]                  Ames, Iowa                 +
+ AX25: KE0WO @ KE0WO.#WIA.IA.USA.NA     FBB Beta tester       Cellist      +
+            Secretary for the Tristate Amateur Packet Association          +
+            Treasurer for the Cyclone Amateur Radio Club                   +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++








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To: [e-mail],(Les,Dittert)

Hi Les,

[e-mail] (Les Dittert) wrote:
>Does anyone know of a way to connect a packet station to the internet ?
>I want to set up a base station , with a high speed packet station, and
>have it be online. The end goal is to be able to look at my web page via
>remote laptop computer. I'm not sure if it is even worth trying to use
>conventional packet radio network protocols to do this.

As Gary pointed out, the best way is to extend the Internet protocols
over packet using the available hardware and software.

>I've been out of touch with the packet scene for 5 years now , and from
>what I remember it was mostly a BBS style of communicating, with lots of
>text and no images. With higher speeds ( > 9600 ) content with images
>such as WWW pages should be possible.

9600 baud packet provides 500 bytes per second transfer rates (a 14.4kb
telco modem gives 1600).  Hardware is available to go faster.  Start
reading on the Colorado Amateur Radio Page at
http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/hamradio.html#digital.  Also checkout what
Kantronics and Paccom are doing.
-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/cra_news.html




From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Les Dittert)
 writes:
>Does anyone know of a way to connect a packet station to the internet ?
>I want to set up a base station , with a high speed packet station, and
>have it be online. The end goal is to be able to look at my web page via
>remote laptop computer. I'm not sure if it is even worth trying to use
>conventional packet radio network protocols to do this.

The internet basically runs on TCP/IP protocols, and so can packet
radio. On packet, we use some derivative of Phil Karn's NOS such as
JNOS or TNOS. These programs can deal with AX25 encapsulation of TCP/IP
and with ethernet, or slip, or ppp encapsulation of TCP/IP. So all you
need is to setup a box, hooked to the radio and having an ethernet, slip,
or ppp connection to the internet, which acts as a router or bridge between
packet radio and the wired internet.

>I've been out of touch with the packet scene for 5 years now , and from
>what I remember it was mostly a BBS style of communicating, with lots of
>text and no images. With higher speeds ( > 9600 ) content with images such
>as WWW pages should be possible.

Possible yes, pleasant no, at least until you get up to some real
speed. At 56kb it works well, but 9600 packet is slower than 9600
telco, and it *crawls* when presented with some of the pictures
from hell found on some webpages. (Even a 28.8kb telco modem crawls
with some of these pictures.) So if you limit the graphics to a
*reasonable* size, it's Ok, but text pages are still much more
snappy.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:32 1996
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Bob Nielsen ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Art Allen) wrote:

: >>>>Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and
: >antenna.


: >I dont get involved in these matters of controversy, generally, BUT:

: >I recently upgraded punchboxes here and wanted a full featured
: >word processor. I had used Word Perfectx and Wordx. I called both
: >outfits about latest versions, availability and pricing. Talk about
: >sticker shock! Both outfits wanted 300 + dollars for their software!

: >I know it takes a LONG time and cost ALOT of $$ to develop these packages
: >but one would think the price would come down, eventually.....

: Well, if you already had a copy, you could get an upgrade version for
: around $90 for either of these.  The upgrades are quite extensive in
: both of these cases.  I wonder if WordPerfect will  come out with a 32
: bit version before Novell dumps it.

Hi, Bob,

I guess you missed it, Novell already dumped it.

Jim.


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[e-mail] (Art Allen) wrote:

>>>>Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and
>antenna.


>I dont get involved in these matters of controversy, generally, BUT:

>I recently upgraded punchboxes here and wanted a full featured
>word processor. I had used Word Perfectx and Wordx. I called both
>outfits about latest versions, availability and pricing. Talk about
>sticker shock! Both outfits wanted 300 + dollars for their software!

>I know it takes a LONG time and cost ALOT of $$ to develop these packages
>but one would think the price would come down, eventually.....

Well, if you already had a copy, you could get an upgrade version for
around $90 for either of these.  The upgrades are quite extensive in
both of these cases.  I wonder if WordPerfect will  come out with a 32
bit version before Novell dumps it.

Back to the subject, there's a lot of good free or inexpensive
(shareware) software around for many ham applications.  Just take a
look at ftp.ucsd.edu, for instance.





From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ashtabula2)
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Subject: Freq ID 3582 USB
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Hello everyone,

     Can somebody identify the data beeing sent on this FREQ.  I have no
idea, to make sure it was not IF.  I used the SW radio on the net, same
data.... It issort of driving me crazy.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated....

73'S

JEFF


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:36 1996
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Subject: Re: GTOR KAMsters: help us with thruput tests
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Steve Wolf wrote:
>
> Ken Wickwire ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : Fame, Fortune, Big Science: All Free!:
> :
> : For some months we've been running tests of throughput
> : in the HF TOR and packet modes over NVIS links in New England.
>
> Hi ...
>
>      I would be VERY interested in any reports of the KAM+ locking up
> when left unattended in the TOR mode.  I had been running MSYS using TOR
> with an upgraded KAM.  About three times per week the KAM would be left
> in a locked state.  The red LED would be on continuously and nothing
> short of a power down would restore it.
>
>      The KAM was HEAVILY used on a HF port here and trying to duplicate
> the problem has been frutile.  I have recorded the data to and from the
> KAM before, during and after lockups and can not recreate the problem.
>
>      I have now reverted to Pactor as 99.9% of the users start in Pactor
> and try GTOR only if the band is in GREAT shape.  Left in Pactor, the TNC
> is rock solid.
>
>      Leaving the TNC in GTOR is not an option.  My users need the Pactor
> as many are not running KAMs.  (And most are hundreds of miles from a
> phone line, hi hi.)  Hence, trying to see if the problem is in GTOR is
> not an option.  I can only verify its occurs in TOR.
>
>      Being that I can record data to and from the KAM<>MSYS path ... and
> being that I can not recreate the situtation by duplicating the data, I may
> be wrestling with a lockup in the KAM firmware.  The KAM is a upgraded
> version running 7.1 ROMs.  I tried another upgraded KAM but have no KAM+
> to try.
>
>      Anyone see such lockups, please!!!, let the net know.
>
> --
> 73,
> Steve
>      Internet      :  [e-mail]
>      Amateur Radio :  no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
>      MSYS Mail List:  [e-mail] ('info' for title)
>
> Pactor on 3630. 3632, 3634, 7072, 14072 and 14074 ... 48 seconds per cycle
>           Near Cleveland, OhioI cannot say that I have had lockups in any TO
R modes, because I have
not yet used it in any TOR modes. BUT, I can say that it has locked up
in Packet mode on 3 occasions in the last 9 months. I called Kantronics
about this and they claim operator error saying they have never heard of
such a thing. In all cases, a hard reset has been required to bring it
back to life. I can tell you the firmware version number if you care.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger J. Buffington)
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Subject: HAL P 38 TNC
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I would be very interested in hearing comparisons between the HAL P38
TNC and other TNCs.  The P38 certainly seems like a reasonable deal
for the price.

My questions include:

1) How is Clover II in weak signal conditions?
2) What kinds of connectors does the board need to your XCVR?
3) What software is available, and does it have auto-logging.

Thanks!
--
Roger J. Buffington
2L, USC Law Center
[e-mail]
AB6WR
Go Trojans!
WARPing with IBM OS/2 3.0 and PM-Mail
Onward thru the fog...



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <4fnmc8$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Roger J. Buffington) wri
tes:
>I would be very interested in hearing comparisons between the HAL P38
>TNC and other TNCs.  The P38 certainly seems like a reasonable deal
>for the price.

It is. However, it does not support all the digital modes in use on
HF. In particular, it doesn't do GTOR, PACTOR II, or packet. Nor does
it attempt to do Morse. Packet and Morse are no great loss, of course,
and HAL says they will be supporting GTOR, and perhaps PACTOR II, in
later updates.

>My questions include:
>
>1) How is Clover II in weak signal conditions?

Very good. It isn't perfect, but performance in 2FSM is quite good.
Where it shines, however, is when conditions are changing or when
signals are a bit stronger than the very weakest. Then it "shifts
gears" into higher levels of FSM and throughput becomes very good.

>2) What kinds of connectors does the board need to your XCVR?

AF in and out and PTT are required between the card and the
radio. On the card, they are RCA connectors. What's needed
on the radio depends on the radio, of course. Note: this is
for Clover, which must operate in the SSB mode of the radio.
RTTY, PACTOR, and AMTOR can be done via a FSK connection to
the radio. This is a stereo mini-jack on the card, and again
the connector at the radio end depends on the radio. You can
do these modes via AFSK using the same connections as for
Clover, but I'd recomend using the FSK functionality if your
radio supports it. With filters optimized for RTTY in your
radio, PACTOR performance is outstanding.

>3) What software is available, and does it have auto-logging.

Besides the furnished software, there are a number of other
programs available which work with the P-38 API. There's a
BBS among other things. And, best of all, you can get full
documentation on the API from HAL so that you can write your
own software. I don't know if any of the available software
includes a logging feature, though the supplied software
offers capture to disk, which is the way I "log" contacts
of interest.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:39 1996
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I am a radio tech with lille experience. How do i get wireless going in
digital. vhf,uhf,lb what freqs are used? I am an 800mhz tech? I want to
use aa lap top.


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From: Dana H. Myers
To: jcumming
Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!)
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 1996 7:51AM



>
>> >* The audio output is a fixed level, de-emphasized signal, it looks
>> >like it will drive loads down to 600 ohms, though I'd suggest the
> >>higher the impedance, the better.  This should just connect directly
> >>to the input of most 1200 baud TNCs for packet; it is not usable
> >>for 9600 baud.
> >
>
> >Sorry Dana, but this is in error.  There is a fixed-level audio output
>> pin in the ACCESSORY plug in the rear of many Icom radios (735, 740, and
>> 751 rigs are my experience).  The level is high enough to operate HF
> >digital operations with PK232s and KAMs (although it is not enough to
> >drive the PK232 from my 751 when the '232 is in Morse code - not that it
>> much of a concern for me.  However, the audio output derived at ICOM
>> mike jacks is adjustable with the volume control.  I can confirm this
>> because I have the Icom Boom/Headset mike and it works with my former
>> 735, and currently owned 751, 706 and 2310 (UHF/VHF mobile).  If however
> >it is the case for the IC-2000, it would seem that this is peculiar to
> >this radio.

>What makes you think my description is in error, other than some other
>Icom radios are different?  The mic jack audio out is derived from the
>top of the volume control, directly from the IF demodulator, as indicated
>by the schematic and block diagram.  The block diagram indicates signal
>flow _to_ the volume control and mic jack (via a buffer amplifier), then
>it indicates signal flow _from_ the volume control to the speaker
>amplifier.

My apologies - I did not wish to discredit your schematic interpretation
abilities whatsoever.  It struck me odd, however, that this rig would seemingl
y
have a different configuration from the rest of the Icom family of radios,
as I noted in my last comment of my original posting.

>The mic connector on the IC-2000 is an RJ (twisted pair/telco style)
>connector, I doubt that headset that plugs into the IC-735 would plug
>in ;-).


From your description, sounds like Icom used the RJ-45 connector,
which is used by the telephone industry, so I have been told, as a
"data jack".  This is the type of jack that is also used on the 706.  But
you are right, here I was with the Icom boom-headset with the radial
8 pin plug and in accordance with that Law of Physics that says you
can't put a square peg in a round hole, it didn't fit.  As well, the stock
706 does not come with a DTMF pad on the mike (when told by
an Icom America rep that DTMF mikes were over $100 a pop and
the inclusion of one would have thrown the target price for these
radios out of whack, I didn't have the presence of mind to remind
this individual is that what he was quoting was the retail price, not the
actual value of manufacturing - which is probably in the order of
10 bucks - but I digress).   So I had a couple of 8 pin radial jacks,
and rooted around in the shack for a mini-DPDT switch and scrounged
a curly cable with an RJ-45 plug on it, went to Radio Shack and bought
a little perf board and one of their blue experiementer boxes.  After
careful wiring, and a lot of swearing and making sure I did not poke my
eye out with the soldering iron and Voila! I now have a little adapter
box, in which I can plug my boom headset and an Icom mike with DTMF
pad and it is switchable.  So far, it seems that the boom mike has better
audio, according to the tests I have been doing so far.  But when I want
to make an autopatch, I just flip the switch and use the DTMF pad
on the other hand mike.

So it is possible to use headset that was used on my 735, but
a little adapter is necessary.  (I understand that Icom has an
adapter ready made, but I read somewhere it is $US45, which
would put it at the $CAN65 range.  It wasn't worth it.)

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ


Yes, I faced the same problem with my 706, coupled with the fact that
the 706 stock mike does not have a touch tone pad
thanks for the note!!

Dana



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Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!)
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You are not correct about the freq up / down.  When the pin is hard
grounded the radio will scan up, when it is pulled to ground through a
470 ohm resistor the radio will scan down.  FEED NO voltage into this pin
it simply does not work that way.  The 8 volts D.C. pin can source only
about 8 milliamps, pulling more may damage your radio.  The mic pin is a
lower current and is not specified by ICOM, here it is only to bias on the
mic.

Gary



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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!)
Date: 14 Feb 1996 05:45:32 GMT
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In article <4frn8v$[e-mail]>,
Gary P. Fiber <[e-mail]> wrote:
>You are not correct about the freq up / down.  When the pin is hard
>grounded the radio will scan up, when it is pulled to ground through a
>470 ohm resistor the radio will scan down.  FEED NO voltage into this pin
>it simply does not work that way.  The 8 volts D.C. pin can source only
>about 8 milliamps, pulling more may damage your radio.  The mic pin is a
>lower current and is not specified by ICOM, here it is only to bias on the
>mic.

Gary Coffman has already corrected me on this. However, note that the
+8V source doesn't just run the mic pre-amp; it really does run a
+5V regulator and DTMF encoder chip in the microphone.  In the IC-2000,
that +8V line comes from a 78M08 regulator, and has a total of
110 ohms of series resistance on the the way to the microphone.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:45 1996
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From: Jim Cummings <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!)
Date: 14 Feb 1996 14:12:34 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:
>Here's a little contribution to those with IC-2000s.  I've crossposted
>to rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc for those wishing to connect a
>1200 baud TNC to the IC-2000.
>
>Please send me updates or corrections...
>

OK, I got another here for you (it seems that the UP/DOWN issue is now
cleared up.... so no point in being repetative)

>-------------------------------------------------------------
>
>The IC-2000(H) microphone connector FAQ
>Version 0.1 2/9/96
>Maintained by [e-mail]
>
>
(snip, snip)
>3    Audio output from radio

(further snipping)

>Notes:
>

(One more time!!!!)


>* The audio output is a fixed level, de-emphasized signal, it looks
>like it will drive loads down to 600 ohms, though I'd suggest the
>higher the impedance, the better.  This should just connect directly
>to the input of most 1200 baud TNCs for packet; it is not usable
>for 9600 baud.
>

Sorry Dana, but this is in error.  There is a fixed-level audio output
pin in the ACCESSORY plug in the rear of many Icom radios (735, 740, and
751 rigs are my experience).  The level is high enough to operate HF
digital operations with PK232s and KAMs (although it is not enough to
drive the PK232 from my 751 when the '232 is in Morse code - not that it
much of a concern for me.  However, the audio output derived at ICOM
mike jacks is adjustable with the volume control.  I can confirm this
because I have the Icom Boom/Headset mike and it works with my former
735, and currently owned 751, 706 and 2310 (UHF/VHF mobile).  If however
it is the case for the IC-2000, it would seem that this is peculiar to
this radio.

(Finis!)

73 and live better digitally
Jim, VE3XJ





From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!)
Date: 14 Feb 1996 16:02:31 GMT
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In article <4fsqki$[e-mail]>,
Jim Cummings  <[e-mail]> wrote:
> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wrote:
> >Here's a little contribution to those with IC-2000s.  I've crossposted
> >to rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc for those wishing to connect a
> >1200 baud TNC to the IC-2000.
> >
> >Please send me updates or corrections...
> >
>
> OK, I got another here for you (it seems that the UP/DOWN issue is now
> cleared up.... so no point in being repetative)
>
> >-------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >The IC-2000(H) microphone connector FAQ
> >Version 0.1 2/9/96
> >Maintained by [e-mail]
> >
> >
> (snip, snip)
> >3    Audio output from radio
>
> (further snipping)
>
> >Notes:
> >
>
> (One more time!!!!)
>
>
> >* The audio output is a fixed level, de-emphasized signal, it looks
> >like it will drive loads down to 600 ohms, though I'd suggest the
> >higher the impedance, the better.  This should just connect directly
> >to the input of most 1200 baud TNCs for packet; it is not usable
> >for 9600 baud.
> >
>
> Sorry Dana, but this is in error.  There is a fixed-level audio output
> pin in the ACCESSORY plug in the rear of many Icom radios (735, 740, and
> 751 rigs are my experience).  The level is high enough to operate HF
> digital operations with PK232s and KAMs (although it is not enough to
> drive the PK232 from my 751 when the '232 is in Morse code - not that it
> much of a concern for me.  However, the audio output derived at ICOM
> mike jacks is adjustable with the volume control.  I can confirm this
> because I have the Icom Boom/Headset mike and it works with my former
> 735, and currently owned 751, 706 and 2310 (UHF/VHF mobile).  If however
> it is the case for the IC-2000, it would seem that this is peculiar to
> this radio.

What makes you think my description is in error, other than some other
Icom radios are different?  The mic jack audio out is derived from the
top of the volume control, directly from the IF demodulator, as indicated
by the schematic and block diagram.  The block diagram indicates signal
flow _to_ the volume control and mic jack (via a buffer amplifier), then
it indicates signal flow _from_ the volume control to the speaker
amplifier.

I believe my description is correct.

[ The mic connector on the IC-2000 is an RJ (twisted pair/telco style)
  connector, I doubt that headset that plugs into the IC-735 would plug
  in ;-). ]

thanks for the note!!

Dana

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom  Zoch)
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Hi,
I am going to be taking my Tech tests on Saturday (2/17) and am now starting
to look in to what type of radios to get. I plan to put a 2M Mobile in my
truck and get a more substantial base for home.

For home I'm looking into Base Multiband / Multimode Transceivers and trying
to decide what will be my best bet. I was thinking of one that would cover
at least 2M and perhaps 70cm. I am interested in working into Satellite and
EME as well as FM and perhaps some local CW, 12V operation would be a plus
but not a major requirement. I do plan on upgrading to at least General with
in the next year and expanding also into some HF as well. So I would want to
take that into consideration as well. possibly using Transverters get to the
higher freqs for satellite and EME and going with a more basic UHF/VHF base
unit.

For the mobile unit I was thinking of a rather simple 2M unit for repeater
and simplex FM. I live in a rather remote area in the western foothills of
the Cascades so I think one of the higher output power units would be in
order. I was considering picking up one of the new Radio Shack units. As far
as I can tell it has most everything I am looking for at a reasonable price.
From the cross talk I have seen on the net and the write up in CQ (VHF) it
seems to be a good choice.

I would like to take advantage of the wealth of experience of those out here
on the net and get some input from you as to what you think. Suggestions on
equipment to get or avoid as well as things to look for or useless features
to not even consider. For me price, value and reliability are important, I
have a modest but hopefully adequate amount set aside for starting up and
want to use it wisely. The Base unit I'll be looking for used at up coming
Ham fests so any information about current or older equipment would be
helpful.  I was thinking of picking up the Mobil new  ( if it is in or
around the same price range as the Radio Shack unit ) but am vary open to
suggestions.  I would also welcome comment on other accessory gear that you
feel would be useful as well as thoughts on band selection (pros and cons
of the diffrent amature bands ) or what ever info. you would like to pass on
to a newbie like myself. I know there are lots of books and other sources
around and would not mind pointers to the better source like that, but I am
primarily looking for personal insights and experience.

Thanks
TZ

Reply here or by e-mail to [e-mail]







From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:49 1996
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Hi,
I am going to be taking my Tech tests on Saturday  (2/17) and am now
starting to look in to what type of radios to get. I plan to put a 2M Mobile
in my truck and get a more substantial base for home.

For home I'm looking into Base Multiband  / Multimode Transceivers and
trying to decide what will be my best bet. I was thinking of one that would
cover at least 2M and perhaps 70cm. I am interested in working into
Satellite and EME as well as FM and perhaps some local CW, 12V operation
would be a plus but not a major requirement. I do plan on upgrading to at
least General with in the next year and expanding also into some HF as well.
So I would want to take that into consideration as well. possibly using
Transverters get to the higher freqs for satellite and EME and going with a
more basic UHF/VHF base unit.

For the mobile unit I was thinking of a rather simple 2M unit for repeater
and simplex FM. I live in a rather remote area in the western foothills of
the Cascades so I think one of the higher output power units would be in
order. I was considering picking up one of the new Radio Shack units. As far
as I can tell it has most everything I am looking for at a reasonable price.
>From the cross talk I have seen on the net and the write up in CQ (VHF) it
seems to be a good choice.

I would like to take advantage of the wealth of experience of those out here
on the net and get some input from you as to what you think. Suggestions on
equipment to get or avoid as well as things to look for or useless features
to not even consider. For me price, value and reliability are important, I
have a modest but hopefully adequate amount set aside for starting up and
want to use it wisely. The Base unit I'll be looking for used at up coming
Ham fests so any information about current or older equipment would be
helpful.  I was thinking of picking up the Mobil new  ( if it is in or
around the same price range as the Radio Shack unit ) but am vary open to
suggestions.  I would also welcome comment on other accessory gear that you
feel would be useful as well ( for example band selection for Satellite and
EME ), or what ever info you would like to pass on to a newbie like myself.
 I know there are lots of books and other sources around and would not mind
pointers to the better source like that, but  I am primarily looking for
personal insights and experience .

Reply here or  by  e-mail to    [e-mail]

Thanks
TZ






From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RICKCRIDER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup?
Date: 14 Feb 1996 02:00:12 -0500
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In response to the ARES/RACES newsgroup, I would support such a maneuver
if others would.

Cordially:
Rick Crider
KD4FXA
V. Pres. / UCARS (Union County Amateur Radio Society)
Monroe  NC


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Carrubba)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup?
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The Town of Babylon ARES/RACES group would support an ARES/RACES
newsgroup..

73
Tom Carrubba KA2DFO
TOB ARES AEC/DRO


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WA6UBE)
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Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup?
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Rick writes:
"In response to the ARES/RACES newsgroup, I would support such a maneuver
  if others would. "

I agree -- As a member of our City of San Jose Communications Division,
and a member of our City RACES program, having a newsgroup on ARES/RACES
would be a really good idea!!

Trish <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] "The Vertical Skywave Girl" ...
Mobile repair shop supervisor - City of San Jose/ GSA-Communications
voice-mail: 1-408-277-4082
PGP Public key available on request


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:53 1996
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From: Jerry Needell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:38:49 -0500
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Jeff De Long wrote:
>
> I just received a negative response on my bbs about forwarding mail via the
> internet. Thought I would post on this news group and see what other hams
> thought about internet forwarding. I am for it.

I do not have a passionate feeling about this, but I lean in the
direction that "it ain't radio"  so it has no role in the amateur
radio network. I am afraid that the ease of mail forwarding via the
Internet will result in a complete dependecy on it rather than
RF links. I am also concerned about the huge volume of potential traffic
that Internet Gateways can admit to the radio network. The Internet
is a big pipe and a few subscriptions to listservers can create a large
amout of data flowing into our very small pipes. Its nice to be able
to excange a few messages with the other side, but I think the potential
problem outweigh the benifit.  Just my thoughts - since you asked ;-)


--
Jerry Needell - [e-mail] (most reliable e-mail address)
Amateur Radio - N1SJQ
Packet  Radio - [e-mail] or [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll
Reply-To: [e-mail]
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In <4fomnv$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pete..) writes:

>The beauty of internet forwarding is that anybody can do it.  The
>current forwarding paths are controlled by some people that like to
>excercise their "given right"to kill mail..

>If they were as "pure"as they would like us to believe, there would be
>absolutely NO PROBLEMS !!!

Problems in mail forwarding and killing of messages should not be
solved by cutting around it, but by reviewing and discussing the
reasons for it.
Usually you will find that the content of the messages is not at all
relating to amateur radio, and is illegal to transfer in the country
where your intermediate system resides.

There is no such thing as a "right to send whatever you like via
the amateur BBS system".  This should be understood by the users of
the system.

Rob
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll
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Organization: PE1CHL
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In <[e-mail]> Feico de Boer <[e-mail]> writes:

>[e-mail] wrote:

>> The reason: using internet for message transfer has nothing to do with
>> amateur radio. Or should we rename out hobby to amateur communicators ?

>Internet in addition to the current situation can be very usefull
>since not every operator has a licence for HF. Therefore the
>Internet can be his link over the horizon.

There is no need for every operator to have a link over the horizon.
Besides, every operator with a VHF/UHF license can operate on packet
satellites, and thus transfer messages all over the world.

>> The next step : let the radio amateurs use internet to connect to the local
>> (packet?) bbs.

>Personally I feel this as a very onlogical step since my opionion
>is that most amateurs will use their set to connect to the internet
>over packet radio. The prevent the casual netsurfer from initiating
>a amateur radio transmitter some fancy firewalls can be used.

Obviously you don't understand what was meant by the claim.
The reason why the next step is connecting to the BBS via Internet, is
the same as why people want to use Internet for forwarding: they believe
that the radio path is too slow/too crowded to be used for transferring
their messages, and thus they cut around it by using wire networks.

This bodes the end for "radio" as in "amateur radio".

>> The last step (from the government): sell the amateur bands to the highest
>> bidder.

>The is no commercial value in connecting to the Internet since the
>number of radio amateurs is low compared to all the modem owners.
>Ofcourse provides may loose some money since an amateur may decide
>to use radio instead of modem, but I also think that a lot of ham's
>will not even consider the Internet unless they can connect to it
>over packet radio.

Again, you have misunderstood.
The point is: as soon as no radio amateur uses radio anymore, because
the Internet is so much better, we don't need the spectrum allocation
and will lose the bands.

Rob
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| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: PE1CHL
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In <4flvio$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pete..) writes:

>As technology moves forward, so should Amateur Radio.  It is VERY
>unfortunate that the HF intercontinental links cannot support the
>megabytes of data generated every day by HAMS.

Who told you that HF Intercontinental links are the only solution
to your problem?

When there is a problem, work together to solve it.  Using radio.
That is what the amateur radio hobby is about.

Look at satellite systems.  There already exists a working mail
forwarding network via satellite, and the upcoming Phase-3D satellite
could extend this to real-time links (e.g. for conference server
connections).

Internet is nice to have, but it is *not* the solution to packet BBS
forwarding problems within the amateur radio hobby.  Just as making
a telephone call is *not* the solution to solving the difficulty of
working a DX country.

Rob
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| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:38:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pete..)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:22:35 GMT
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I have started to forward approx 1mb of @ww mail into Australia per
day.  We have not received this type of mail for some months due to
the poor hf conditions.

When I look at the contents of the mail, I do ask what value does all
of this @ww mail provide.  Some of the messages are quite stupid, in
my opinion, but they have a right to be there as an Amateur did post
it out.  I think some of these chaps need a little educating and not
post 70cm skeds to @ww !!!!!

I think it is for the USERS to decide if they want the mail and not
myself as a SYSOP.  The mail is NOT slanderous and does not contain
obsceneties.   If I have that approach, there is NO way in this
lifetime  that I could get 1MB per day via in intercontinental hf
link.

One thing that it has done is to show the Sydney SYSOPS that we really
can't cope with a 1200 baud backbone feeding 10 bbs's.  I'm ALL for
internet forwarding as it links Australia to the rest of the world.
It provides reliable digital communications and you actually learn
something by doing it !!!


Cheers..Peter

e-mail: [e-mail]
ax25:[e-mail] (for those that underestand)

The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer
does not have the right to use my opinions..



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Internet via high frequency packet radio in Africa?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
.au writes:
>On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:24:54 GMT, [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
>wrote:
>>In article <4fb1ln$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tim Maude) wr
ites:
>>>I am considering a job in Africa.  Internet service provider not
>>>available because the phones don't work.  Can you help with some
>>>answers to these questions?
>>>1. Can high frequency packet connect me to internet for mail (first
>>>priority) or WWW. ?
>>
>>Email, sort of. WWW, forget it. HF packet is limited to 300 baud.
>
[snip]

>Or, alternatively, you CAN, quite reliably, use 1200 baud Phase Shift
>Keying (PSK) TNC's on H.F. Radio. Many are operating on the amateur
>radio frequencies from about 14.105 to about 14.109 or thereabouts.
>They sound like a chainsaw when you hear 'em.

Thanks for the reminder that the 300 baud limitation is a USA-centric
artifact of our antiquated rules. Higher speeds may indeed be available
to amateurs in other countries.

However, HF packet is bad enough at 300 baud. At 1200 baud, selective
fading will trash the symbols on all but the best and most stable
paths. Baud over about 50 are difficult to use reliably on a fading
channel without heavy FEC. To achieve better throughput, symbol
overloading schemes like Clover are a better choice (basic baud 31.25
with symbol overloading to 375 bps, *and* strong FEC). Unfortunately,
encapsulating TCP/IP frames in Clover is not an off-the-shelf solution.
I expect you'd want to run a PPP link over Clover (Clover appears from
the outside to be quasi-duplex), but you'll need to do the connection
setup manually, and talk directly to the P-38 API via your own driver
code. That's not difficult, in fact almost trivial if you're running
Linux.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: JNOS lite ?
Date: 13 Feb 1996 18:17:17 GMT
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Hi,
I have an XT (8088) with only 512K of memory. I have tried JNOS 1.09
and 1.10 (many different letters 1.10D -1.10K) and have not found a build
that will fit/run in the limited amount of memory. My requirments are
simple as I just use the COM1 port to a KAM3.

The XT works great in the shack with no EMI. My 486 has too much EMI
(eletrical noise) to be near my shack (and the family does not want the
486 tied up with packet stuff).


 Can anyone recommend a "lite" configuration that I can use ?

-mark KA1OJ


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:02 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: JNOS lite ?
Date: 14 Feb 1996 04:15:12 GMT
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You want to have a look for a 8088 compiled version.  In the JNOS make file
one has a choice of which processor to compile the nos for.  The 8088 is
one choice.  Also there is a program called PKLITE which will compress the
EXE file when the compile is finished, so it might run on your XT.  I have
seen 1.08 run on an XT.

Gary



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:03 1996
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From: [e-mail](Jean-Pierre Heulin )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: JNOS lite ?
Date: 14 Feb 1996 15:02:39 GMT
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In <4fqkjd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark
Foster) writes:
>
>Hi,
>I have an XT (8088) with only 512K of memory. I have tried JNOS 1.09
>and 1.10 (many different letters 1.10D -1.10K) and have not found a
build
>that will fit/run in the limited amount of memory. My requirments are
>simple as I just use the COM1 port to a KAM3.
>
>The XT works great in the shack with no EMI. My 486 has too much EMI
>(eletrical noise) to be near my shack (and the family does not want
the
>486 tied up with packet stuff).
>
>
> Can anyone recommend a "lite" configuration that I can use ?
>
>-mark KA1OJ

I recommend you try WNOS, available at:
FTP.UCSD.EDU/HAMRADIO/PACKET/TCPIP/WNOS
I use it here on a 286 with one floppy and it runs great.
It runs in a lot less memory than JNOS.
Your other choice is to buy the Borland C compiler and recompile JNOS
with the minimum stuff you require.
BTW. Wnos will compile with TC++3.0 (only $89.00)

Good luck
de Jean-Pierre
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ralph Phelps)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KAM+ or PK-232
Date: 13 Feb 1996 23:17:52 GMT
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Keywords: KAM+ or PK-232

I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232.
Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not
considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good,
dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit.


73,
Ralph
WA9JST






From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ricky Scott)
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
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Ralph Phelps ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232.
: Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not
: considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good,
: dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit.

Thats a tough one Ralph,  I have tried Both and they both have some good
features.  I guess it depends on what you wish to do with it. I like the
variable Mark/Space settings of the KAM and I feel it was a little more
sensitive than the 232 (I tried both).  I have had my KAM and Upgraded it
periodically for almost 10years now and its never ever been to KANTRONICS
for a repair.  I just keeps going and going and going....

I like the KAM BEST I guess.




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Ship Side Support             |    reflect the views of my company or my
767 Electrical  Manuf. Eng.   |    supervisor.  In fact they wish I would
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Charles Vollum)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:20:09 -0700
Organization: Moana Software
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In article <4fr670$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232.
> Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not
> considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good,
> dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit.

I own both, and both are good units.  On my boat, I prefer the Kam+ due to
small size and better Mac software.  All of my internet email from the
South Pacific was handled via the Kam over AMTOR and PACTOR. I also like
playing with GTOR, which really smokes.

If I could have just one unit, I think it would be the Kam Plus.

YMMV!

Charles
n7bpt


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:06 1996
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From: Marinus Willemstijn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KAMPlus TNC Goes haywire!
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Thanks for reading...

Can anyone please help with the following problem. I have a
KamPlus TNC which I bought secondhand. It works fine, but when
I switch it off and on again it goes in to some kind of mode
where it wont accept any commands from Winpack.

I then have to use a hard reset to reset the TNC and then
change all parameters again, etc, etc.

Its becoming quite a drag because I now have to leave it on
24hrs a day.

Is the internal battery maybe at fault - but why doesn't it
reset to defaults when switched on again?

Please help.

Marinus
ZS6MAW
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Wolf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KAMPlus TNC Goes haywire!
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: Can anyone please help with the following problem. I have a
: KamPlus TNC which I bought secondhand. It works fine, but when
: I switch it off and on again it goes in to some kind of mode
: where it wont accept any commands from Winpack.

Hi ...

     Read about KISS in the manuals.  Sounds like it's in KISS.

--
73,
Steve
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     Amateur Radio :  no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
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KaWin version 6.30 is ready!

This new version of KaWin is faster, cleaner and loaded with new features.
Registered users may upgrade at no cost. Others are invited to test this new
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73, Igottago... Stan ..
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:09 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KPC-9612 won't send signal
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 05:56:44 -0500
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Jeff Hilton wrote:
>
> My KPC-9612 won't send a signal on port 1 (port 2 isn't in use).  It just
> sends a carrier signal, no packet info.  It just started doing this
> recently.
>
> Is my radio hooked up right?  Is it the TNC?
>
> Has anybody else out there had this problem.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeff Hilton, [e-mail]---
Is this a new unit?  Maybe the transmit audio level is too low to
deviate your radio.  There is a jumper clip and potentiometer to set
the level that might need adjustment.

Have you checked here:  http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire/index.html
for the correct interconnection for your radio?

No, I haven't had this problem with mine.
--
    Gene Kennedy, Mobile AL
    [e-mail]
    [e-mail]
    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David C. Gingrich)
Subject: Re: Landline BBS and Packet BBS Software
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Mark Boyer) wrote:

> BACKGROUND - I am the SYSOP for the local Red Cross Emergency Services
> Committee.  I am also their Communications and Transportation co-odinator.
>  This is all volunteer as most of you know.
>
> PROBLEM - I have a large area to cover.  There is a mix of amateur and
> non-amateurs.  I would like to know if there is a sofware package that
> will allow the system to send and receive landline BBS and packet BBS
> traffic.  I am currently using the Phoenix BBS program from Genesys on a
> Zenith 286 with 2MB of ram and a 200MB harddrive.  There are plently of
> slots left.
>

This question was posed to me by one of our local Red Cross folks...

Instead of using a BBS, have you considered setting up an Email mailing
list instead?  Of all your people that would call the BBS, how many
already have an Email address on some service somewhere? I'll bet your
friendly neighborhood ISP would set it up for free and then you have NO
box to maintain and no users to train (or contend for the one or two
modems you might have). If there is an Internet connected packet gateway
(xNOS, etc) in the area, the hams could pick up mail there via packet.

Even if you had to manage the list manually using an alias or .forward
file, it seems a whole lot easier than taking care of a box.  FWIW
===
Dave Gingrich, K9DC
Fishers, Indiana
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Boyer)
Subject: Landline BBS and Packet BBS Software
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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BACKGROUND - I am the SYSOP for the local Red Cross Emergency Services
Committee.  I am also their Communications and Transportation co-odinator.
 This is all volunteer as most of you know.

PROBLEM - I have a large area to cover.  There is a mix of amateur and
non-amateurs.  I would like to know if there is a sofware package that
will allow the system to send and receive landline BBS and packet BBS
traffic.  I am currently using the Phoenix BBS program from Genesys on a
Zenith 286 with 2MB of ram and a 200MB harddrive.  There are plently of
slots left.

If I have to change the software what is the best brand to use for the
configuration that I want to use?  Also I haven't purchased a TNC or a
dedicated radio yet.

I hope there is someone out there who has set something like this up and
can help.

73

--
Mark Boyer VE3MJB   [e-mail]

HELP, HELP we're twapped in a Dash 8 going wound and wound.  A day in the
life at uAmps R us.


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:13 1996
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I do *exactly* what you are looking for.  I remote controll my
PacketCluster node by using Norton PC Anywhere and dialin modem.  I can
control any computer function including tnc operations.  I have several
remote sysops who use this function and it works *very* well.




Bert - NS4W
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:14 1996
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Subject: Re: Landline BBS and TNC Door
Date: 14 Feb 1996 05:47:42 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Sosnin) writes:
>Where can I find a program that I can use with my Landline BBS so that
>users can access my TNC and gate over to packet on 2 meters. There are
>Hams in the area that would probably like to do this so they can see
>if they want to spend the money for packet equipment. It will give
>them a taste of what they could be enjoying. It needs to me a DOS
>based program.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>David Sosnin
>N4TTN
>[e-mail]
>
>

I use Marshall's DOORWAY.COM program with my OPUS 1.73 BBS program
to do the job and it works just fine.  The radio item is a menu selection
on the BBS main menu available for qualified users.  The door goes to an
AEA Pakratt program that runs my AEA PK900 or other PCB88 card on the
buss.  The whole affair runs in an OS/2 DOS VDM in WARP CONNECT 3.0
with Ray Gwinn's SIO.153 and a time slicing utility to smooth out the
operation which can proceed at the same time that my entire station control
program is running in another OS/2 session.

I think you can get the lateest DOORWAY.COM, a shareware product, from
many BBS sites as DRWAY22.ZIP to pull of the stunt.

There is another more sophisticated apprach at this that is a specific
utility to do this from your BBS which has the added attraction of changing
the user of the TNC to the call sign of the person on the BBS.  That is
done by spiking the initialization of the TNC with a change in MYCALL
for getting rid of the problem of having good old YOU, the sysop in trouble
for what gets into the RF arena.

Since all my users are qualified and not much use is made of the BBS for
this purpose, I didn't try this approach nor remember what the program is
called, but it is out there on many of the ham radio specific BBS sites.

Mike W5WQN as a guest at leviatham.tamu.edu



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:15 1996
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From: Gary Watts <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Landline BBS and TNC Door
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The program is on the WEB from the Author
Please see his page and get your software from him.
Don't dial direct take the WEB !!!!  :->

His page is located at

http://www.sound.net/~w4kgu

Good Luck
Gary Watts  de  N0OXV
Kansas City Mo
81 GL1100I


On 14 Feb 1996, Clint Bradford wrote:

>
>
>
> >>Where can I find a program that I can use with my Landline BBS so that
> >>users can access my TNC and gate over to packet on 2 meters.
>
> ARPD124.ZIP is available on ATTENTION to Details BBS 909-681-6221. Best
> one available!


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Wolfgang Heise)
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Subject: latest wa8ded firmware
Date: 13 Feb 96 11:35:48 GMT
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Hello Daniel, hello Thomas,

may at look at http://deister.aball.de/%7Epg/nordlink/
would help you to download the latest version - I think 2.7b it is.

73 de Wolfgang (DL7VWH)

****************************************************************************
Date: 13 Feb 1996 17:04:16 GMT
From: Thomas M Allen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2

[e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) wrote:
>       Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for
>the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should
>have ie. NORD><LINK enhancements etc.)? I don't know anything
>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere
>although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version.

WA8DED's host mode firmware is available on the TAPR ftp site. The
"latest" is at least three years old, however.

--------------------------------------
Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA

****************************************************************************+

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Str. des 17. Juni 135, 10623 Berlin, Germany               ||*(
possible on hamradio/packetradio too by [e-mail]

Maybe you would like to have a look at our Web Server? just type
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:18 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Maritime TCP/IP or AX.25?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 06:19:35 -0500
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Michael Schwarz wrote:
>
> Hello, I'm new to the group so please forgive me if I'm posting
> "off base."  I'm N0ZES but I'm asking this question on behalf of a
> friend who's going off on an "around the world" sailing trip.  They'll
> have GPS and maritime radio and all those goodies, but they're asking
> me about having Internet access on the trip.  Finally, I said the only solut
ion that seemed
> viable to me was some sort of satellite based communications.


        I think they have only two options:
1. If they have license and use HF packet or some digital ham mode to send E-m
ail
to internet via a packet/internet gateway, which will only give them mail deli
very.
2. If the boat has Inmarsat A or B satellite communications they could use it
to
dial in by regular modem up to about 9600 baud to their internet provider.  Th
is
costs $8 to $10 per minute.
--
    Gene Kennedy, Mobile AL
    [e-mail]
    [e-mail]
    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:18 1996
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From: Jay Craswell <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Morse code to text display wanted
Date: 9 Feb 1996 00:44:49 GMT
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Hamcom uses a simple 741 interface to an unused comm port and also decodes
CW, RTTY, SSTV and AMTOR.  I've got some boards that will do this that I will
let go for $10 (You build em!)
E-Mail me if you are interested.
--
73, Jay WB0VNE - AAV5TH


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Buydens)
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Subject: Re: Morse code to text display wanted
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I believe the SuperMorse program also has provisions for translating cw to tex
t.


Brian.


Ference Kish ([e-mail]) wrote:

: > >
: > >Hi. My dad is a Ham operator, and asked me if there were some
: > inexpensive
: > >way to have incoming Morse code automatically translated and displayed
: > on
: > >a CRT. Since I know nothing about Ham radio, I thought I'd post here.

: There is a program called MORSEFFT which you should be able to find on the n
et
: (use ARCHIE to find the site storing it )

: It needs a sound blaster card as an input device. It comes with C source cod
e,
: too



--
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Department of Computing Services     Whose poetry never would scan.
University of Saskatchewan           When told this was so,
email: [e-mail]        He said, "Yes, I know.
VE5RDV


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RICKCRIDER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Multipurpose TNC / Decoder?
Date: 14 Feb 1996 02:03:07 -0500
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Is there such an animal as a multimode/multipurpose TNC / Decoder....?

I'm new at packet.....(haven't even started yet)......Would like a
multipurpose radio and /or scanner to computer interface to use for packet
as well as decoding various other data transmissions hovering in the air
around me such as paging, both digital and alphanumeric,  wefax, and as
much more as possible.   I'm just terribly confused with all the terms and
protocols.   Have posted to various groups to no avail.   Any help
aprreciated.   Thanks.
Cordially:
Rick Crider
KD4FXA
Monroe  NC


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From: [e-mail] (Terry Fugate)
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Subject: Re: MY NEW EXPERIENCE.....  PLS READ
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In article <4fcpdh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ashtabula2)
 says:
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>     I am very new to this SW and SAT stufff, well last night I decided to
>give it a shot...  I dloaded a piece of software to track satellites, and
>found a FAQ in requards to the subject.  I ran the software and setup on a
>paticular SAT. RS-12/13, I couldnt believe it, it reached the bahamas and
>I started to hear a faint beacon, as it went north it got stronger.  WHAT
>A RUSH, I loved it, man this stuff is fun....  If anyone has any SAT info
>in reguards to Weather sat PICS, I would love to here from ya, as I am a
>weather nut........ THANX IN ADVANCE!!!
>
>73's
>JEFF
Go out to the Oakland ftp mirror and snag a copy of JVFAX 7.0.(7.1 is out
on the net, but I do not know if it includes all the diagrams that are
with 7.0)  There is a real simple uA741 opamp that feeds(and is powered
by) the asynch port.  There is an "converter" that goes between you
vhf receiver and the opamp input.  The converter is a vco that converts
the "am" wx sat pix into a "fm" hf type fax.  The whole decoder setup
shouldn't cost more than $10(us) or so.  The exar chip is the common
one used in most of the older packet only tncs.(I do not remember the
chip number off hand and I do not know of a source for it, I pulled the
demode chip from an older GLB PK1[i think the chip is an Exar 2201?]).
While you will be able to hear the NOAA birds (on 137.5 and 137.65{these
could be the wrong freqs if they are I will Email you the correct ones}
FM..it is a little confusing The signals are transmitted as an fm signal,
then you demode them into an AM fax signal and then convert them into
a FM signal(like HF wefax)) on your handheld or desktop scanner(if it will
tune to these freqs, most newer scanners will but some older ones have a
"hole" from 136 to 138)but you will need a wide band fm mode to even
start to get an image.
I reccomend that you get a copy of Dr Ralph Tagarts WX sat handbook( the
ARRL bookstore has it, check out their web site).  While you will get a
"reasonalble" image with this minimum set up, with only slightly more
work you can get MUCH better images.
Good luck


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Keitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: One Radio with DR-610 and KPC-9612
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:36:24 GMT
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In article <4frbbj$[e-mail]>,
   Dan Lehnen <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have tried using the ONERADIO command with my kpc-9612 and my Alinco
>DR-610 with no luck. The Alinco will do 1200 or 9600, but not both at the
>same time.
[...]

Any radio which will operate at 9600 can also handle 1200 through its 9600
port.  Forget about the microphone and speaker plugs (well, you could leave
a microphone and/or speaker hooked up for occasional analog FM use) and
connect either or both TNC ports to the radio's wideband audio port.  Then
leave the radio in "9600" mode for any digital operation.

To operate both modes at the same time, a parallel combiner from the TNC
ports is required.  The hookup for the receiver is easy.  Just connect the
discriminator output of the radio to both audio inputs on the TNC.
Similarly, the PTT lines can be ORed together by just connecting them in
parallel.  The transmit audio is the only moderately complicated part.  If
the TNC mutes the signal out of the port which is not transmitting (I
beleive the KPC9612 does), then a simple combiner ("T" network with the
radio input in the center) of two resistors will work.  You'll probably
have to move the jumper inside the TNC to get line-level rather than
microphone level audio out of the 1200 baud side to be compatible with the
radio's input.  Adjust the level controls inside the TNC for the proper
deviation on each mode.

-Mike KD4QDM


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Subject: One Radio with DR-610 and KPC-9612
Date: 14 Feb 1996 00:45:39 GMT
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I have tried using the ONERADIO command with my kpc-9612 and my Alinco
DR-610 with no luck. The Alinco will do 1200 or 9600, but not both at the
same time. You Alinco DR-610 owners out there know you have to push the
function key and hit the RC key for the "A" to flash right? Ok, when the
A is flashing it will transmit and recieve 9600 fine, but nothing on
1200. The same if the A isn't flashing, 1200 fine and nothing 9600. I
suspect it will do fine on other radios though. If anyone has gotten it
to work on the DR-610 please let me know... These are my experiences with
this combination of radio and tnc.



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: One Radio with DR-610 and KPC-9612
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In article <4frbbj$[e-mail]> Dan Lehnen <[e-mail].e
du> writes:
>I have tried using the ONERADIO command with my kpc-9612 and my Alinco
>DR-610 with no luck. The Alinco will do 1200 or 9600, but not both at the
>same time. You Alinco DR-610 owners out there know you have to push the
>function key and hit the RC key for the "A" to flash right? Ok, when the
>A is flashing it will transmit and recieve 9600 fine, but nothing on
>1200. The same if the A isn't flashing, 1200 fine and nothing 9600. I
>suspect it will do fine on other radios though. If anyone has gotten it
>to work on the DR-610 please let me know... These are my experiences with
>this combination of radio and tnc.

Just put it in 9600 mode and wire both TNC ports to the 9600 port
on the radio. AF out can be bridged, PTT wire ORed, and Tx audios
combined through a pair of 620 ohm resistors.

You'll be doing 1200 baud with "flat" tones rather than with the
normal twist, but that's usually not a problem. (The old TNC2
had backward twist and it still worked.) But if you want to fix
the twist, you can put RC equalizing networks in the 1200 baud
lines to and from the TNC.

Gary
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es
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From: [e-mail](Jean-Pierre Heulin )
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Subject: Re: One Radio with jnos and kpc-9612
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Paul B. Schou)
writes:
>
>Has anyone tried using a single radio on both ports of a kpc-9612?
>1200 Baud to the regular mike and audio connectors and 9600 to the
>modified i/o connectors. Will the jnos attach and attach kiss commands
>handle multiple speed inputs from the same radio? I sort of doubt it,
>but thought I'd ask before attacking the hardware.
>
>
>Hillsmere Shores - Annapolis, MD USA - Sailing Capital of the World
>Internet: [e-mail]  -  Packet: [e-mail]

I have done just that. I modified my PCS-4000 Azden and It works fine
that way.
Jnos doesn't know that there is only one radio. It's all the same to
it. You must turn the ONERADIO command in the TNC to ON so that both
channels won't try to transmit at the same time. The other problem of
course is that both 1200 and 9600 then are on the same frequency...
That's why I since bought a PCS-9600D for 440 9600 bds packet. But if
your local channel has a mixture of 1200 and 9600 users, Go ahead.

73 de Jean-Pierre KC6JET



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Keitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: One Week to Green Key Night (& Day)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:53:11 GMT
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In article <4fqo9k$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (James H. Haynes) wrote:
>
>Remember Feb 20 is Green Key Night (& Day) - commemorate the beginning of
>RTTY on the HF bands.  Not a contest, no rules, no score, but
>   Use a mechanical teleprinter if you can
>   Use vacuum tube gear if you can

>   Use 850 Hz shift if you can

I didn't think that much shift for low rate FSK signals was still legal in
the US.  Turns out it almost is (except for the pesky "excessive bandwidth
is not good amateur practice" clause in 97.307(a)).  But further
contradiction is found in  Part 97.307(f):

[for HF bands longer than 10 m]
|   (3) Only a RTTY or data emission using a specified digital code listed
|in  S 97.309(a) of this Part may be transmitted. The symbol rate must not
|exceed 300 bauds, or for frequency-shift keying, the frequency shift
|between mark and space must not exceed 1 kHz.
[for the 10m band]
|   (4) Only a RTTY or data emission using a specified digital code listed
|in  S 97.309(a) of this Part may be transmitted. The symbol rate must not
|exceed 1200 bauds. For frequency-shift keying, the frequency shift between
|mark and space must not exceed 1 kHz.

Notice the different wording of the two rules.  (4) clearly indicates that
a symbol rate of more than 1200 bauds is not allowed in the 10m band.
However, (3) is worded with an "or" which sounds to me like a symbol rate
of more than 300 bauds is legal if the frequency shift is less than 1 KHz
(which would allow a symbol rate of nearly 2000 bauds).

Has this apparent mis-edit been addresed in a revision of the rules?  I
suspect (3) should be worded exactly like (4), to specify that the symbol
rate is limited to 300 bauds in all cases.

-Mike KD4QDM


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Hi all,
        I was looking at possibly getting an FX-146 for use with packet.
Since I don't require real frequency agility, just a few channels, this looks
to be a good kit.  I do have the following questions:

        - It says it's 9600 compatible; how well does it do?
        - Easy to build/good instructions?

Anyone with any practical experience on this rig, please give me your
opinions.

Thanks and 73,
Russ  KI7FL

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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:32 1996
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Subject: OS/2 drivers for Ottawa PI card on Hobbes
Date: 16 Feb 1996 20:24:34 GMT
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For those of you who run JNOS under OS/2 or PMNOS 1.2 I've
uploaded the latest version of the OS/2 PI card drivers
to hobbes.nmsu.edu/incoming/PI2DRV10.ZIP .  These drivers
allow JNOS running in a VDM to use the Ottawa PI or PI-2 card.
All source code is included.


File Descriptions for PI2DRV10.ZIP

PI2DRVR.SYS  Version 0.93
An OS/2 device driver for the Ottawa PI card.
Supports both original and PI-2 cards.
Supports both A cnd B channels.
Can be used with PMNOS 1.2 or JNOS.


VPI2.SYS    Version 1.01
An OS/2 virtual device driver which allows a modified
version of JNOS to use the PI card when running in a VDM
under OS/2.

NOS.EXE
JNOS110i compiled with a replacement PI driver for use with the OS/2
drivers.

PI2DRV09.ZIP
Source for OS/2 PI card physical device driver. Version 0.93

VPI2.ZIP
Source for OS/2 virtual device driver 1.01- allows JNOS to use OS/2 PI card dr
iver

PI2-JNOS.ZIP
Source for JNOS replacement PI card drivers. (Must be compliled into JNOS)








From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:34 1996
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From: Dave Curtis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: packet radio
Date: 15 Feb 1996 01:44:05 GMT
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Try the Tuscon Amateur Packet Radio home page at:

http://www.tapr.org/tapr/

73, Dave NG0X

[e-mail] (Fergal Goggin) wrote:
>Where would I get some backround info on amatuer packet radio?
>Reply via e-mail please.
>Thanks for any help
>regards,
>_________________________________
>Fergal Goggin - Software Engineer
>Trintech Ltd.,
>South County Business Park,
>Leopardstown, Dublin 18, Ireland.
>_________________________________
>Telphone: [phone]
>Fax: [phone]
>E-mail: [e-mail]
>_________________________________
>




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From: [e-mail] (Fergal Goggin)
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Subject: packet radio
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:51:34 GMT
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Where would I get some backround info on amatuer packet radio?
Reply via e-mail please.
Thanks for any help
regards,
_________________________________
Fergal Goggin - Software Engineer
Trintech Ltd.,
South County Business Park,
Leopardstown, Dublin 18, Ireland.
_________________________________
Telphone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]
_________________________________



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Karl Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet Repeater
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:13:27 -0500
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In article <4fauav$51m$[e-mail]>, Chris Boone
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> A repeater is a repeater, whether it carries voice or data, and
> must operate in the repeater segments of the bands. SERA
> coordinates
> all pairs in the repeater segments impartially. Simplex packet
> is
> a thornier problem. That usage takes place in what has
> traditionally
> been uncoordinated spectrum. SERA has opted to work with State
> packet
> organizations to deal with this. Each State's packet group is
> allowed
> to act as coordinator for simplex packet.
> -------------------------------------------------------
> I disagree....if a duplex packet digi is set up ONLY to pass data
> and NOT voice, it is a digi-peater and can operate ANYWHERE in
> the band it wants to...just like a simplex digi....NOW if it is
> an analog rptr that passes ANYTHING, then it must remain in the
> repeater subbands....but to pass ONLY AX.25 packets, it is free
> to go anywhere it wishes
>
> Chris
> Ex Board of Directors member and life member- TX VHF FM Society;
> RF Technical Director - Texas Coastal Amateur Packet Society
> (TCAPS)
>
> --
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> PG-9-5322  FCC Commercial             409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr

CHRIS-
If the station is running as a "store and forward" digipeater I agree with
your interpretation.  However, Gary is referring to real-time direct
rebroadcast, not store-and-forward.
There's a lot of confusion in terminology among people unfamiliar with FCC
R&R and/or packet technology (not you).  However, this one is clearly
defined in the rules.  A packet repeater (not S&F) MUST comply with the
same operating restrictions (97.205) as any other repeater, whether it
retransmits voice, ATV, RTTY, or any other authorized mode; Par 97.109 d
and e also covers RTTY and packet respectively, but clearly does NOT
supercede the requirements in 97.205.

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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PK232 and WeFax?  Help.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:14:00 GMT
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[e-mail] (Arden Eby) wrote:



>I have an AEA PK232 that I know does WeFax since I was able to get it
>working on my (old) Macintosh.  Now I'm running a "wintel" machine
>under Win95.  I like most things about the new machine but I can't
>seem to find a fax program that interfaces with the PK232.  I have
>found plenty of PD/shareware fax programs but all of them seem to
>require me to buid a specific interface.  This seems like it should be
>unnecessary since the PK232 has a fax mode.  Any ideas?

The PK232 will do fax and all you need to do is to use the program
that interfaces with the 232 as a terminal.  The command for wefax
should be in you manual and there is a print con command you can set
to print out the data onto you printer.  I have not found a way of
displaying the data on the screen yet.  Make sure you printer is
connected to the pk232 or your terminal program can re-route the
output to the printer...






From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RICKCRIDER)
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Subject: Please help ID this equipment:
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Anyone in the group familiar with the following?

UDS brand, V.23 A/S Data Modem

Avanti brand, 600G Local Area Data Distributor

Dinosaurs or are they useful in todays digital world......?

Thanks.
Rick Crider
KD4FXA
<[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ray D. Congdon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters
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My 2 Bits...  I have designed and builta repeater system that alowed sharing o
f one
pair of freqs between voice and data.  It was done on NTIA authorized freqs as
 a
demonstration. (Fed Government Freqs).  What was done was to simply tone prote
ct
voice and use data carrier detection on the data.  I used KPC-2400's for the d
ata
and a modified GE Mastr-Pro repeater. (set up to repeat on carrier or tone and
 only
regenerate the tone out if tone was detected on the input)  The demo was rathe
r
dramatic and worked quite well.  The voice users were totally unaware of the d
ata
that was being sent on the same system.  Listening to the system "in the clear
" was
interesting.  Data was sent at a leisurly rate until a voice conversation was
intitiated.  At that point the data of course halted and politely waited for a
n
open spot... when that occured, between voice transmissions, the data packets
were
furiously exchanged! Worked quite well but was a political "flop" due to bias
against "ham" technology.
It gave greater coverage and conserved both equipmnet and spectrum.
----
Ray D. Congdon   N7HQK
ISA-USA
5515 N. 4400 W.
Cedar City, Utah 84720



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Howard Goldstein)
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Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters
Date: 13 Feb 1996 20:58:11 GMT
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On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:34:13 GMT, Robert Walker <[e-mail]>
 wrote:

 : In Brian Kantor's posting, he differentiates between a 'digi' and a
 : 'digipeater'. Thanks, Brian, I had never thought there might be a
 : difference between the two. In common usage, here in Australia, the
 : word 'digi' is used as a contraction of the word 'digipeater' and,
 : therefore, the words both mean the same thing(at least here and N.Z.).

The distinction is news to me as well.  Must be a west coast (U.S.)
thing (ducking, running)

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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
.au writes:
>Hi All!
>In Brian Kantor's posting, he differentiates between a 'digi' and a
>'digipeater'. Thanks, Brian, I had never thought there might be a
>difference between the two. In common usage, here in Australia, the
>word 'digi' is used as a contraction of the word 'digipeater' and,
>therefore, the words both mean the same thing(at least here and N.Z.).

They do here in the US too. The real distinction is between digipeater
(or digi) and digital repeater. A digital repeater isn't store and
forward, but a digi (digipeater) is. Note, our government doesn't recognize
the terms digi or digipeater, they are amateur slang. Our FCC calls
such operations digital store and forward stations. And the FCC calls
digital repeaters simply repeaters, and treats them like any other
repeater for the purpose of regulation.

Gary

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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Karl Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:57:17 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ray D. Congdon) wrote:

> My 2 Bits...  I have designed and built a repeater system that allowed
sharing of one
> pair of freqs between voice and data.  It was done on NTIA authorized
freqs as a
> demonstration. (Fed Government Freqs).  What was done was to simply tone
protect
> voice and use data carrier detection on the data.  I used KPC-2400's for
the data
> and a modified GE Mastr-Pro repeater. (set up to repeat on carrier or
tone and only
> regenerate the tone out if tone was detected on the input)  The demo was
rather
> dramatic and worked quite well.
>      (SNIP)
>                    Worked quite well but was a political "flop" due to bias
> against "ham" technology.
> It gave greater coverage and conserved both equipmnet and spectrum.
> ----
> Ray D. Congdon   N7HQK
> ISA-USA
> 5515 N. 4400 W.
> Cedar City, Utah 84720

No offense, but what did you expect from USFG/NTIA bureaucrats?  The users
were about to lose justification for tying up frequencies which could then
be auctioned to the highest bidder.  Just so you understand that I'm not
just picking on the Feds, several technically advanced hams or clubs have
tried the same thing on their repeaters operating in the amateur bands,
and the whole progressive idea fell apart there too.  Voice users would
not time-share the repeater and refused to either buy CTCSS for their rigs
or tolerate the squawks.  Sometimes you really DO have to legislate
technology advances, even when the action taken is merely to prohibit the
continued use of methods that have been obsolete for twenty years, such as
carrier squelch and only one repeater on a channel pair in an area.

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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:44 1996
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From: Russ Roslewski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Remote access to PBBS?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:54:48 -0700
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Hi,
        I'm pretty new to this packet stuff, and have a question.  What
I want to do is be able to connect to my home PBBS from elsewhere, to
read my mail, etc.  Now, other people can connect to my PBBS just fine,
but when I try to do it, I can't connect.  MYCALL is KI7FL and the PBBS
is KI7FL-1.  I'm using both a KAM and a KPC-3.  I guess maybe it's a
problem with my home station and other station both having the same
call, but how do I fix it?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Russ  KI7FL
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: Latest version of G8BPQ SW ?
Date: 15 Feb 96 05:36:12 GMT
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On 9 Feb 1996 [e-mail] (Jose Miguel Fonte) wrote:

>Hello all ,
>Can anyone tell me wich is the latest version of the G8BPQ software ?
>We are using BPQ SW in our local packet cluster and I would like
>to know if there is a new version of the program !
>I am also looking for pc/flexnet to do some testing , can anyone
>tell me where I can get this software (BPQ and PC/FLXNET).

Hello, Jose Miguel -

As far as I know, BPQ v4.08a is the latest.  I'm told that you can
FTP it from ftp.funet.fi (pub/ham/packet).  I got it from a landline
BBS in the US.  Can't help with pc/flexnet, sorry.

Good luck! and 73 -

de Mike (TA2ZG/W2AV)     Remote Sysop TA2EM BBS - first PRBBS in Turkiye
Amateur Packet Radio:    TA2ZG@TA2EM.#IST.TUR.EU
Internet (email only):   Michael C. McHugh <[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:47 1996
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From: ecloud@goodguy (Shawn Ruttledge)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: SEX: Can J/TNOS for Linux run without a terminal?
Date: 13 Feb 1996 00:55:35 GMT
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C. T. Nadovich ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (C. T. Nadovich) writes:

: >Is there a Unix version of J/TNOS (or some easy hack) that allows this
: >program to be started at boot time and run in the background? I hate
: >having to start it and waste a terminal (even a virtural one!).

: >= = =

: >Key points:

: >  Remember, I'm running Linux, not DOS.
: >  No, I don't want to install kernel AX25.
: >  No, I don't want to manually run JNOS under expect.

: Anybody have any idea?

RTFM.  Basically the Unix equivalent of autoexec.bat is the scripts in
/etc/rc.d.  Read the scripts and you'll see what they do.  I don't know what
kind of output NOS creates, but you can always pipe it to /dev/null if
it's just occasional text messages (not heavy-duty fancy formatted text,
or menus that you need to interact with).  So the command line in the
/etc/rc.d/rc.local for instance might be
jnos > /dev/null &
& means "run in the background and gimme the command prompt back".

But, how would that even be useful, to run it without seeing it show up on
one of the vc's?  Isn't it true that you have to interact with the main
program to make connections and do other useful stuff?

I believe there is a way to make a program appear on a particular vc too,
instead of the default one.  And I've yet to run out of vc's anyway; 10
is more than I can keep track of in my mind.

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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: tnc cable for HTX-202?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <4foq34$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mike Keitz) writes:
>In article <4esa3g$[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (Pete Hoffswell) wrote:
>>Sorry, I'm sure you get this note once a month, but...
>[...]
>>Anyone know how to make a Realistic HTX-202 to TNC Cable?
>[...]
>
>The HTX 202 interface is compatible with most older Icom, Yaesu, or
>Standard HTs (essentially any brand other than Kenwood that has two plugs),
>so if you find a diagram or assembled cable for those it will work.
>
>The PTT function is combined with the mirophone input on these radios.
>Drawing DC current out of the microphone jack will turn the transmitter on.
> The cable does this with a resistor/capacitor arrangement:
>
>TNC:                            RADIO:
>
>PTT --- R ------*------------  MIC TIP
>                |
>AF OUT --- C ---
>
>AF IN -----------------------  SPKR TIP
>
>GND -------------------------  MIC SLEEVE
>                               SPKR SLEEVE
>
>Use two small-diameter shielded cables with the radio plugs simply
>connected directly to one end.  Put the resistor and capacitor inside the
>plug shell on the TNC end.  The resistor R is usually in the range of 2.2 K
>ohm to 4.7 K ohm.  It doesn't need to be exact.  Some radios won't key with
>the 4.7 K so I'd recommend using a 2.2.  The capacitor couples the audio
>out of the TNC into the microphone input.  A value of 0.1 uF (microfarad)
>usually works.  As you can see from the diagram, the speaker output is
>simply connected directly to the AF input of the TNC.  You can plug in only
>the speaker plug and the radio will not be able to transmit (this is useful
>for example to decode packet signals that may leak into a voice repeater,
>without sending any there yourself).
>
>-Mike KD4QDM

Note that the capacitor may already be included in the TNC, consult
your schematic, so you may not need to outboard one. And some TNCs
also have the resistor internal, and all you need to do is move a
jumper to activate it. So in those cases all you need is wire between
the TNC and the radio. Consult your TNC manual and schematic to see
if these features are available before installing the outboard components.

Also, there is a different connection that I prefer for Icom, Yaesu,
and Radio Shack HTs that uses a transformer turned sideways like so:


TNC PTT------------))))))))-----------> HT Mic tip
                   ========
TNC AF out----------))))))-----x
                               |
TNC GND------------------------x-------> HT ear sleeve
TNC AF IN <----------------------------> HT ear tip

The transformer can be any miniature audio transformer, scavenged
from a transistor radio or gotten from a Radio Shack grab bag.
Just wire it inline and cover it with heat shrink tubing. This
circuit gives a positive, and fast, PTT. The RC network in
the other method can cause slow key up and release with some HTs,
particularly Icoms, which want a 10k resistor instead of the
2.2k resistor used with Yaesu or Radio Shack HTs. 2.2k may be
used with the Icoms, but presents undesirable loading of their
input circuits, which may cause problems with drive levels and
frequency response.

Regardless of which circuit you use, be sure to adjust the tone
levels for 3 kHz deviation of the HT signal. This is very important
for best results. If deviation is too high, distortion will make
your packets difficult for others to copy. And if deviation is too
low, some stations may miss your packets as well.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Blackwell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: using Macs to switch stuff on/off?
Date: 15 Feb 1996 16:53:55 GMT
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B&B Electronics makes a number of little boxes which have serial I/O
on one side and various combinations of parallel, relay, A/D and D/A
on the other, with a little microcontroller in between. I've used them
with great success to have a Mac control various things. Their phone
number is 1-815-433-5100, or ping 'em at http://www.bb-elec.com.

                Mike Blackwell          ke3ig

In article <4fu8fp$[e-mail]>,
        [e-mail] (Sven Koenig) writes:
>
>I would like to use my Mac to switch a couple of low-voltage devices
>on and off. Are there any "cards" (Mac specific ones or, more likely,
>ones with a standard serial interface) that do just that?
>
>Also, where to look for AD/DA converters and relay cards?
>
>Every hint is appreciated...
>Thanks!
>Sven
>



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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jyri Hamalainen)
Subject: Re: What's PGP??
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In article <4edaue$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>: How/where can one obtain a copy of PGP?
>
>I can't give you the address -- why don't you check out the pgp
newsgroup?
>
>BTW, it is available and free
>:

Use the European version when you find it. Speculation has it that the
US version has been doctored. Try a web search for PGP or RSA. If all
fails mail the sci.crypt news group. If that fails mail me and I'll ftp
you a copy with the windows frontend. I use it all the time for email.

Regards







From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:53 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WINLINK - Can it help me ??
Date: 14 Feb 1996 06:10:01 GMT
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In <4fluj3$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Pete..) writes:
>Hello OM's
>
>What is Winlink.  I gather it is used for e-mail messages and can be
>used for e-mail forwarding ?!?!?.  Is this true or am I misguided.
>
>I am looking for a mail package that I can simply attach export files
>to e-mail and send them out automagically.  What package can I use ??
>Obviously I would import them also and forward them around to VK..
>
>Cheers..Pete..vk2yx
>Cheers..Peter
>
>e-mail: [e-mail]
>ax25:[e-mail] (for those that underestand)
>
>The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer
>does not have the right to use my opinions..
>

WINLINK is a Windows 3.1 based TNC program that does what you wish,
from what I know.  Several of us in the area use it.  I don't because all
of my TNC use also has to be run remotely over the phone lines as well as
locally, while using OS/2 in OS/2 native and DOS VDM text modes at the
same time.  I've copied off your address for E'mail.  If I can get the crew
to pay any attention to the I'net, I'll see if one of them can get it to you
or at least email you a message to start you on how do download it.

I've used it.  It is a nice program that also requires modification of the
WIN.INI files by hand to optimize the thing.  It requires a pre-load of
a communications library package to handle serial port I/O.

It has a built-in VHF/HF gateway operation for autoforwarding on HF and
cross band VHF/HF stuff that works VERY nicely.

Once tuned up for your favorite combination of ports and TNC's you should be
very happy with it, if you are using WIN 3.1 for your basic computer
operating platform and are not multi-tasking a bunch of other comm stuff
on other ports at the same time.

This program was used extensively in the official testing for unattended
autoforwarding on HF here in the USA, together with autoforwarding of
gatewayed stuff from VHF into the HF digital circuits.

N5TC, Tom Comstock, the West Gulf Division Director for the ARRL, who is
from my city was one of htose special licensed hams that took part in the
program, as was one other ham 20 north of me.

They are solid devoted fans of WINLINK.

I'll pass this to them and see what happens.

I don't have an IP address for email from you and my FidoNet node number
of 1:117:3000 that I sysop now can be reached by reply to me at
mike.luther@[e-mail], however, the FidoNet gateway is
going down in its present form at the end of February.  It may take a while
for the gateway operations to resume after the mess of message ramming
from the list servers on the Inet side of the gate that pounded the gate
into oblivion as'twas.

:)

Mike Luther as a guest at leviathan.tamu.edu



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Connor^Macleod)
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Subject: Winpack V5.4 Here!!!
Date: 15 Feb 1996 08:53:39 GMT
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Hi I have finally found winpack V5.4 which is a very good program
deffinently worth installing runs with BPQ.

ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/ham/packet/terminal
and the file is winp540.zip

bpq is also on there in

/pub/ham/g8bpq

Have fun......

--
====================================================================
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        Degree Student @ Staffs University UK

Life is what you make it....
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Karl Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WTB: TOWER/ANTENNAE
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 08:46:28 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, "Ros St. John"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi.  Due to a tornado, my tower and antennae are now junk.
>
> STATE FARM INSURANCE REFUSES TO PAY CLAIM!!!!!  BEWARE!!!!
>
> I am looking for a used TRI-EX/HYGAIN LM-354 tower or at the very
> least, the center section thereof.
>
> Want used HYGAIN TH-7DXS OR TH-11.
>
> Want used CUSCHCRAFT 2 METER BOOMER.
>
> Want M2 1.2 gig atv antenna.
>
> Want AEA OR  M2 434 mhz. atv antenna.
>
> Thank you.
>
> W5BRY, Ros.
>
> my email is [e-mail]

The "No Pay" will happen with all reputable insurance carriers if:
1)  The tower is not erected in compliance with the manufacturer's
drawings, or an alternate method designed and certified by a registered
structural engineer;
2)  The tower is loaded beyond the published manufacturer's ratings or
alternate ratings certified by a registered structural engineer;
3)  A retractable tower is not retracted during high winds (violates #2 above)
;
4)  The total amount of damage claimed would normally require an "excess
coverage" rider, which is available specifically to cover high-risk or
high-value items such as collections of valuables, jewelry, radios, etc.

From the list of antennas you are looking to buy, that tower was
overloaded even in 50 mph winds, which is where TriEx used to rate their
retractable/collapsible tower structures.  If you had a PE design or
load-rate your former tower and you did not exceed those ratings, your
claim for damages would be against that PE firm, not State Farm.

As a State Farm member (it's a MUTUAL company in Ohio) and a registered
PE, I agree that they should reject claims for the above reasons.  If they
quoted you some other reason, call your family attorney.  Your Mileage May
Vary.
--
Karl Beckman, P.E.                <      If our English language is so   >
Motorola Private Data Systems     <   precise, why do you drive on the   >
Schaumburg, IL  /  Parma, OH      <   parkway and park on the driveway?  >
[phone] / [phone]
**  Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996!   **
**  Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. **
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From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:57 1996
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From: Ros <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: WTB: TOWER/ANTENNAE
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:54:48 -0800
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Karl,

I appreciate your reply however, I must point out that you are making
many, many assumptions that even if true are incorrect.

You assume previous tower loading, wind rating (load) and your figures
are not correct according to the manufacturer.

Further, without know the details of the claim/case, you assume that they
were correct in rejecting the claim.  There are many, many ramifications
to this issue which you have not been informed of but, I do thank you for
the time that you have taken for your input.

Ros St. John, E.E.




Karl Beckman wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, "Ros St. John"
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > Hi.  Due to a tornado, my tower and antennae are now junk.
> >
> > STATE FARM INSURANCE REFUSES TO PAY CLAIM!!!!!  BEWARE!!!!
> >
> > I am looking for a used TRI-EX/HYGAIN LM-354 tower or at the very
> > least, the center section thereof.
> >
> > Want used HYGAIN TH-7DXS OR TH-11.
> >
> > Want used CUSCHCRAFT 2 METER BOOMER.
> >
> > Want M2 1.2 gig atv antenna.
> >
> > Want AEA OR  M2 434 mhz. atv antenna.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > W5BRY, Ros.
> >
> > my email is [e-mail]
>
> The "No Pay" will happen with all reputable insurance carriers if:
> 1)  The tower is not erected in compliance with the manufacturer's
> drawings, or an alternate method designed and certified by a registered
> structural engineer;
> 2)  The tower is loaded beyond the published manufacturer's ratings or
> alternate ratings certified by a registered structural engineer;
> 3)  A retractable tower is not retracted during high winds (violates #2 abov
e);
> 4)  The total amount of damage claimed would normally require an "excess
> coverage" rider, which is available specifically to cover high-risk or
> high-value items such as collections of valuables, jewelry, radios, etc.
>
> From the list of antennas you are looking to buy, that tower was
> overloaded even in 50 mph winds, which is where TriEx used to rate their
> retractable/collapsible tower structures.  If you had a PE design or
> load-rate your former tower and you did not exceed those ratings, your
> claim for damages would be against that PE firm, not State Farm.
>
> As a State Farm member (it's a MUTUAL company in Ohio) and a registered
> PE, I agree that they should reject claims for the above reasons.  If they
> quoted you some other reason, call your family attorney.  Your Mileage May
> Vary.
> --
> Karl Beckman, P.E.                <      If our English language is so   >
> Motorola Private Data Systems     <   precise, why do you drive on the   >
> Schaumburg, IL  /  Parma, OH      <   parkway and park on the driveway?  >
> [phone] / [phone]
> **  Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996!   **
> **  Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. **
> --
> By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the
> sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services.
> --
> Amateur radio WA8NVW                        NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (JRosariojr)
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good luck


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:39:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (RICKCRIDER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WTD & Info: Universal M8000 / M400
Date: 15 Feb 1996 23:43:28 -0500
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OK, OK,.......
My previous posting asking about an all-purpose digital decoder went
unanswered....maybe it was too vague or just too 'stupid'.   Soooo......
Can anyone help me understand the difference (other than $$$$) between the
Universal M8000 and the Universal M400 digital decoders?   I do understand
that the 8000 will decode packet, but so will the el-cheapo TNC's.....will
the 8000 act as a TNC and allow transmission on packet also?   Or, on the
other hand, would I be better off to buy the Universal M400 and a seperate
TNC for packet work?   Ultimately, I'm looking for equipment that will
decipher as many digital transmissions as possible,  without having to buy
several seperate pieces of equipment.   All help appreciated.    Thanks in
advance.
Cordially:
Rick Crider
KD4FXA
<[e-mail]>


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:40:00 1996
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From: "Stan R. Coleman" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WX Radio now transmitting FSK
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I'm looking for anyone who has more information on the new WX alert
System.  It's a system that not only starts Weather Radio's (Like the
ones at Radio Shack), but it transmits FSK signal with County, Weather
Alert, Type of Alert, Duration, etc. information as well.  If any one has
any OFF THE SHELF PRODUCTS that I can use to decode this signal, let me
know.  What I want to do is to use this information to bring up a series
of Repeaters Using DTMF signals, and then to play the WX Radio audio over
the repeaters.  So first I need to decode the FSK signal then sort the
information as to County, etc. then to bring up the Repeater or
Repeaters.  I know I'm rambling but maybe you can read between the lines.
 I would need to have a FSK decoder (Modem) and a DTMF generator, plus
maybe a microprocessor to make all this work.  ANY IDEAS OR QUESTIONS
PLEAS E-MAIL ME!!!!



From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:40:01 1996
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From: Clifford Buttschardt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WX Radio now transmitting FSK
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:52:35 -0800
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Stan:  I too had an interest in the FSK transmission by the National
Weather Service and attended a briefing here on the West coast to learn
more.  What transpired was that one and only one Canadian outfit was
making decoders.  You asked about off the shelf products and this
manufacturer had a strangle hold on the product.
     I asked for further information on the FSK scheme and was told that
the information was proprietary!  I simply can not conceive of a US
government agency in which such information is not readily available and
especially so from a non US manufacturer!-nothing wrong with Canada of
course as it happens that they took the initiative!
     That is as far as I have been able to go with this and I am still
concerned that this inforamation is NOT public knowledge and available by
many providers and home builders.  Cliff Buttschardt  W6HDO

On 13 Feb 1996, Stan R. Coleman wrote:

> I'm looking for anyone who has more information on the new WX alert
> System.  It's a system that not only starts Weather Radio's (Like the
> ones at Radio Shack), but it transmits FSK signal with County, Weather
> Alert, Type of Alert, Duration, etc. information as well.  If any one has
> any OFF THE SHELF PRODUCTS that I can use to decode this signal, let me
> know.  What I want to do is to use this information to bring up a series
> of Repeaters Using DTMF signals, and then to play the WX Radio audio over
> the repeaters.  So first I need to decode the FSK signal then sort the
> information as to County, etc. then to bring up the Repeater or
> Repeaters.  I know I'm rambling but maybe you can read between the lines.
>  I would need to have a FSK decoder (Modem) and a DTMF generator, plus
> maybe a microprocessor to make all this work.  ANY IDEAS OR QUESTIONS
> PLEAS E-MAIL ME!!!!
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Sat Feb 17 13:40:02 1996
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From: Clifford Buttschardt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WX Radio now transmitting FSK
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:39:56 -0800
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Jim I have as many concernes about this "secrecy" thing on the weather
service digital broadcasts as you.  I considered asking the local
congresswoman for help, but I think if we contact our local guys at
NOAA we'll get to the goal faster than any damn fool congress person.
The local guys want us to have that info as badly as we want it.  Can you
make contact locally?  I will do so again to get the name of the
Canadian manufacturer.  Cliff Buttschardt  W6HDO


On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Jim Haynes wrote:

> Right On!  I have exactly the same concerns.  Shall we write our congress
> critters?
>



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: ### Purchasing a TNC?
Date: 20 Feb 1996 18:59:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4gd5lm$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Edwin Teh <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'd like to buy a simple TNC. Could anyone comment on the following units:
>
>Kantronics KPC-3,

Great little TNC. However, its not a TAPR clone, hence, the modem portion
can not be upgraded easily. This TNC has the smallest foot print, and will
run on a user installed 9vdc battery and wire clip. (which is VERY nice for
portable packet from a laptop and/or field day) This TNC also supports
voltage from 7vdc to 16vdc.

>AEA PK12

Nice, but my last pick of the 3. Configuration loading and setup are more of
a hassle on this one, but once set right, will preform well. This TNC requires
12vdc, but I have ran run from the car at 13.8vdc, and didnt seem to hurt it
any.

>MFJ-1270C

Good TNC. Best 300 HF preformer of the group, and the audio tone is the best.
The MFJ is ma TAPR clone, hence, the modem can be upgraded to 9600 without
much problem. This TNC runs fine from 10vdc to 14vdc.


IMHO, I would choose the MFJ for a home station stand alone TNC. If you have
visions of useing it in the field, car, ect., I would pick the KPC-3 because
of its versitility.

Take care.



--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:36 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Donald I. Baker)
Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City, TXxID-1
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 02:18:32 GMT
References: <4efpb3$[e-mail]> <4ete1q$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4fgm3h$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4g6ard$[e-mail]>

In article <4g6ard$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:
>From: [e-mail] ()
>Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City, TXxID-1
>Date: 18 Feb 1996 04:44:29 GMT

>I WRITE:

>        Of course if you are a smart jammer like myself. You simply
>construct a simple automatic rf sensing switch box. Simply made from rip
>off shack parts. What it does is for the first 100mills on the tx my rf
>output is directed into a small 10 watt 50 ohm dumy load, after the cap
>charges up it causes the relay to swithc me over to my antenna.
>VAWALLLLAAAAA   NO fingerprint. Of course no fingerprint is a fingerprint.
>but now i cant give out all my secrets can I?
>jeff aa7up
>PDX, or
of course you could just mod the radio so that the final is "up" all the time
and just switch the link between the driver and final...........


Donald I. Baker
Reville Engineering Services
4619 Schenley Road
Baltimore, MD 21210-2525
[phone]
Custon Harsh Environment
Computers and RF Products
"Where no PC has gone before..."


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:38 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: AlbanianRadio
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:43:18 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Hi everybody,
>
>l am a CS student from Albania at an American College in Bulgaria.
>l would like to set up some packet radio (between me and some friends) in
>Albania.  l don't think there exists a packet radio network in Albania as of
>now, although l have heard some foreigners (who work in Albania) communicate
>via radio.
>
>l would like to know about the cost of gear that handles 9600kb/s or above, a
nd
>especially if there is such that does this (or higher) in very mountainous
>areas (10-15 mountains of 1500-2000m between the points to be connected).  l
>am considering commercial stuff as well.

Getting over the mountains is a problem. The 9600 baud and faster gear
is intended for operation at VHF/UHF, and that's mostly line of sight.
If you can put relay stations on a couple of the mountains, you can make
it work. But if you can't do that, your better choice will be to use
the lower end of HF using a technique called NVIS (Near Vertical Incidence
Skywave). Basically you use antennas that fire almost straight up. The
signal bounces off the ionosphere and comes back almost straight down.
This gets you good coverage out to a hundred miles or so, and avoids
the problem of obstacles like mountains. The problem with this approach
is that speeds as fast as 9600 baud aren't really practical at lower
HF due to multipath smearing of the symbols. Real throughput is limited
to about 750 bps with available equipment. That's better than nothing,
however. In theory, more elaborate modulation schemes can give better
throughput than that, but in the amateur bands we have regulations that
don't let us use those techniques. A commercial fixed service license
would be required to use those better techniques.

>Please let me know about manufacturers and dealers in Europe (the closest to
>Bulgaria the better -- l don't think l could afford airmailing such gear)

I'll let our European colleagues comment on dealers and prices over
there. Here, we can put together a good 9600 baud UHF station for
about $300. A low end NVIS HF station might run close to $1000. (Of
course you *can* spend more, but you don't have to.)

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:38 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (SAMIR KHAYAT)
From: [e-mail] (SAMIR KHAYAT)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:27:00 GMT
Subject: Amator & Pactor...

Hi,
I am looking for a program that can receive Amtor and Pactor using a simple
comparator circuit (like the HAMCOM).
I would appreciate the name of such programs if available.

Best 73's

Samir , ( OD5SK / KC5RYL)


... ░▒▓█ CQ CQ CQ DE OD5SK █▓▒░

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Krieps)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEATTLE
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 14:46:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4g7e38$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

jon scott <[e-mail]> wrote:


>BEWARE OF DELAING WITH DERRICK HALL OF SEATTLE, WASHINGTON!

>On November 17, 1995 I sent him a money order (as he and I agreed) for
>a PK232.  He claims to have sent the package but that it was
>returned.  I assured him that the address in my letter that
>accompanied the money order was correct (a mail center) and to resend
>the package.  As you dear reader, have guessed by now, no package.

<snip details>

>If any body in Seattle reads this and employees this man (I think he
>is an independent contractor) be sure you are getting good value for
>your time and money.  He is not very honest in his dealings on the
>Internet.

>Jon Scott

One way to avoid these types of deals is to have the possesor of the
equipment send it COD.  At least you get a package (no telling what's
in it) and the sender doesn't get any money until the package arrives.


  I have purchased several things this way and, fortunately, have
gotten what I paid for.  There is really no way to judge the character
of individuals who sell through the postal service.




Dave Krieps

"Those who avoid decapitation leave more offspring." -Carl Sagan



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dr. Jesse B. Taintor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEATTLE
Date: 20 Feb 1996 13:44:38 -0500
Message-ID: <4gd4qm$[e-mail]>
References: <4g7e38$[e-mail]>

This guy sounds like a crook to me.  If he uses the mail in his
business, you could contact his local postmaster concerning mail
fraud.  Many big crooks and whitewater types have been caught on the
mail fraud rap.  I wish you good luck in getting your money back and
this creep out of the business.

JBT
--
Dr. Jesse B. Taintor, Director of Data Processing, Policy Sciences, FSU
Internet:  [e-mail]   Office [phone]
           Home [phone]     FAX    [phone]
"No more good must be attempted than the public can bear." T. Jefferson


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:42 1996
From: jon scott <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEATTLE
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 19:50:27 DST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>  <4g7ib1$[e-mail]>


In Article<4g7ib1$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
> Path:
pacbell.com!gw2.att.com!news.midplains.net!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net
!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!whidbey.!usenet

> From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
> Newsgroups:
rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equ
ipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner
> Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEATTLE
> Date: 18 Feb 1996 15:58:25 GMT
> Organization: DND  CF DET Whidbey Is. WA
> Lines: 4
> Message-ID: <4g7ib1$[e-mail]>
Hi Folks,
Today (2/20/96) I was able to confirm that Mr. Hall indeed
has defrauded me - I called him twice this AM and he hung
up on me both times.  I would love to post this to a Seattle
news group as one responder (Mr. Schertzer) suggested but
my news provider does not give me access to
seattle.forsale.misc.

Thanks also to others that suggested methods to try and
reduce getting taken in business transactions on the
internet.

Jon Scott

> References:
<[e-mail]>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: asn133.whidbey.net
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.11
> Xref: pacbell.com rec.radio.swap:50374 rec.radio.shortwave:70700
rec.radio.scanner:48143 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:27201
rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:15125 alt.radio.scanner:19994
>
> You might consider posting this to:
>
> seattle.forsale.misc   - newsgroup also?
>




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:43 1996
From: Roland S Geter PhD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Broadcasting Radio Station Database for you......
Date: 17 Feb 1996 07:47:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4g4170$[e-mail]>
References: <4fme8u$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Hi Chuck,

Let's try to get the database over here on this provider, OK?

Thanks
Roland S Geter PhD
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:44 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Stan Scalsky)
Subject: Digital Signals FAQ v3.0 released
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 17 Feb 1996 21:48:04 GMT
Distribution: world

For those of you interested in digital signals and shortwave utilities, please
check out the new Digital Signals FAQ V3.0. It is available for ftp/http from:

    ftp://ftp.leonardo.net/berri/wun/archive/files/misc/digfaq30.zip
    http://leonardo.net/berri/wun

Its a large document, approximately 150K, so I will forego posting the whole
document. The document details most known digital signalling systems found to
date in the shortwave spectrum, along with system parameters, decoder man-
ufacturers and references and has been greatly enhanced since V2.0. Well
worth a look if you are a beginner or expert.

Questions, comments or requests can be directed my way.

Stan Scalsky
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Wickwire)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: GTOR KAMsters: help us with thruput tests
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 20:02:36 -0300
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4fmeuq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, Paul Moller
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Steve Wolf wrote:
> >
> > Ken Wickwire ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > : Fame, Fortune, Big Science: All Free!:
> > :
> > : For some months we've been running tests of throughput
> > : in the HF TOR and packet modes over NVIS links in New England.
> >
> > Hi ...
> >
> >      I would be VERY interested in any reports of the KAM+ locking up
> > when left unattended in the TOR mode.  I had been running MSYS using TOR
> > with an upgraded KAM.  About three times per week the KAM would be left
> > in a locked state.  The red LED would be on continuously and nothing
> > short of a power down would restore it.

In connection with the above-mentioned tests we have done many hundreds of
file transfers in amtor, gtor, pactor and packet between about 8 different
KAMs.  Some were pluses (the one here, for example); others were v7.1 and
v8.0 upgrades.

I can remember about 4 or 5 lockups among this group of units over the
course of about 6 months.  In one case a v8.0 KAM upgrade locked with its
tones idling back and forth.  A hard reset slapped it back to health,
where it's stayed.
Our own KAM+ locked with one tone lit once; a reset brought relief.  A
couple of the KAMs we're testing with (one a v8.0; would have to check on
the vintage of the other) have locked up sending acks continuously for
hours until reset.  One was sending amtor acks, one gtor acks.  (Those
happened to be the modes chosen at the times of the lockups by our test
program.)  Resets stopped the rot in each case.

Have heard that lockups of these types can occur if a busy KAM is not
connected to a running computer, which is said to cause buffer overflow.
Kantronics may have pointed this out, but I'm not certain of that.  In
some of the cases we've observed, the computer was on, so this can't
explain all failures.

Have also experienced some VHF hangups, but they're rare. --KB1JY


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Doug Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HAL P 38 TNC
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 03:35:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4fu9j3$[e-mail]>
References: <4fnmc8$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Roger J. Buffington) wrote:

>I would be very interested in hearing comparisons between the HAL P38
>TNC and other TNCs.  The P38 certainly seems like a reasonable deal
>for the price.
>
>My questions include:
>
>1) How is Clover II in weak signal conditions?
>2) What kinds of connectors does the board need to your XCVR?
>3) What software is available, and does it have auto-logging?

Roger,

One clarification: the HAL P38 isn't a TNC, since it doesn't do
packet. But it does support RTTY, ASCII, AMTOR, Pactor, and Clover.
I've found it to work quite well, and my experience with Clover has
been quite positive. I've seen extremely good throughput even in very
poor conditions. The P38 uses RCA phono jacks for connection to your
rig, and is easy to wire up and get running. You need a 16 bit slot in
a 286 or higher PC compatible computer.
As far as software goes, there are Windows programs available (Express
and Ragchew) and at least Express offers logging. On the DOS side, I
know of several, including the P38 software that comes with the board
(no logging), and XPPCI from KF7XP which does handle logging. For RTTY
contesters, WF1B's RTTY contesting program supports the P38.
Hope this helps some. 73,
Doug Hall, KF4KL




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (SAMIR KHAYAT)
From: [e-mail] (SAMIR KHAYAT)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:27:00 GMT
Subject: HAMCOM LATEST VERSION ??

Hi,

Does anyone knows what is the Latest version of HAMCOM program,and what
are the new features it includes ?
I have the Ver.2.1 and I built the Modem (actually the Comporator) and
use it on RTTY but the performance was not very good ,I could only detect
the Strong signals.On the other Hand the modem is working fine with
the JVFAX program for SSTV (Great program !!!).
Any Ideas about how to improve the RTTY reception with the HAMCOM ??

Best 73's

Samir ( OD5SK / KC5RYL )

PACKET: [e-mail]
        [e-mail]



... ░▒▓█ CQ CQ CQ DE OD5SK █▓░▒

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Chris )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: help 7plus on fbb
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:37:28
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hi the name is Chris and I am running F6fbb as a PBBS here. I just got the
7plus files to forward to a file but can get them to decode when all the 7plus

files are there. the sorting file I am using is pick7 which looks for 7plus
files and works very well. Its then that I have the problem in decodeing the
files in that DIR, thanks 73 Chris [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Les Dittert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: help: DGPS demodulator , MSK
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:04:28 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am considering making a differential signal decoder for GPS.
The US coast guard transmits a correction signal at about 300 Khz
and the correction data is MSK modulated on it at 100 baud.
I believe the data once recovered has some simple error correction
and is then fed to the  Differential ready GPS through RS232.

Considering the slow speed , is there an easy MSK demod circuit around?
Maybe using an AtoD converter and singal processing it ? After all , it's
only 100 baud....

Les Dittert ,ALT Systems. Hollywood CA.
[e-mail]
http://www.rfx.com/folks/les

"Question MTV"


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:50 1996
From: Trash <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: High speed trunking
Date: 19 Feb 1996 07:22:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4g98gf$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

 I'd be interested in the application side too. I already have similar
surplus equipment waiting to be used.

  cya de Ash VK2XSO




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:52 1996
From: Lapo Pieri <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: homebuilt TNC ?
Date: 15 Feb 1996 09:12:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4futdu$[e-mail]>
References: <4fb0r3$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Dietrich Morgenstern <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Gerd Roethig wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I wanted to homebrew a TNC for Packet Radio, based on the Z80 CPU.
>>
>> Are there any schematic diagrams for that?
>>
>> Also, I need the Firmware source codes.
>>
>> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Gerd
>>
>> P.S.: I am interested in information about the TNC3, too...
>Gerd:
>bei TAPR in Tucson bekommen Sie das Circuit Board fuer den TNC2 mit
>allen UNterlagen und Schaltbild. ROM mit Software ebenfalls dort.
>
>73 Dietrich DJ1VA at OE2XOM

And why don't try with an SCC ?  TNC sound me too old.
Try to look at ftp.funet.fi:/pub/hamradio/packet/scc

73 de Lapo IK5NAX
----------
Lapo Pieri        [e-mail]
([e-mail])
IROE-CNR: Institute for Research on Electromagnetic Waves  of the
            National Council of Research      (T. [phone])
Home: via A. dei Corbizi 9   I-50127  FIRENZE  ITALY   (T. [phone])




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:54 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HTX-202 and MFJ
Date: 15 Feb 96 05:13:35 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

                 HOOKUP FOR RADIO SHACK HTX-202 TO MFJ TNCS

This document is for customers of MFJ who are having problems getting their
system connected and operational.

1. MFJ-1270/1271 tnc with no internal network:
        All the components must be assembled into the hookup cable between
        the tnc and radio.  The HT requires a mono plug on both of its'
        jacks, however, a few people have reported that their HT would operate
        with a stereo plug.  There may be two hookups over the years that the
        radio has been out.  The MFJ hookup cable will not work with the 1270
        and 1271 because the connection network is missing from inside the
        tnc. Locate the two parts of the cable and note which color wire goes
        to which part of each plug.  There should be a cable for the radio
        with 2 plugs on it, and a 5 pin DIN plug for the tnc, both with a
        loose cable attached, to be spliced together.  First, on the tnc
        cable, locate pin 4 on the DIN connector. The MFJ color is yellow for
        the receive audio line.  It should be connected to the tip of the
        large radio plug.  Also connect pin 2 of the tnc to the ground sleeve.
        The ground usually is common to the dual ht connector, but you may
        want to split it for separate ht plugs.  Next, for the transmit plug,
        connect a 2.2k resistor to pin 3 of the tnc, and a .01 capacitor to
        pin 1 of the tnc.  Connect the capacitor and resistor together on the
        radio side, and connect it to the tip of the small radio connector.
        Connect the ground to the sleeve of the small plug.


2. MFJ-1270B/1274:
        This model is much easier to connect, since it has the RC network
        built into it.  Connect pin 1 of the tnc to the tip of the small plug,
        and pin 2 of the tnc to the sleeve.  Connect pin 4 of the tnc to the
        tip of the large plug on the radio. Only three wires are needed for
        the hookup - transmit, receive, and ground.  Inside the tnc next to
        the radio jack is R107.  You will need to change it to a 2.2k ohm
        value.  The original value was 47k, and later it was 4.7k.  Next,
        locate a small white rectangle off of one end of R107.  The two
        solder pads inside the rectangle make up jmp K and need to be soldered
        together, or connected in some other fashion.  This ties the PTT and
        mic audio together(AC and DC).

3. MFJ-1270C/1276/1278/1278B:
        These models have the same cable hookup as the 1270B/1274.  The
        internal components have different locations and numbers on the
        resistor.  All of these use jumper L instead of jumper K.  The 1278/
        1278B uses both jumper K and L, depending on the radio port used.
        More information on locations are in the chapter on radio hookup,
        page 21 in the 1270C/1276, and chapter 3 in the 1278/1278B manuals.


Special Note:
        In many cases  this arrangement will work just fine.  Through feedback
        from customers, the value of the resistor can be of a different value
        from radio to radio.  The values seem to be from about 500 ohms to
        around 5000 ohms.  I recommend using a 5000 ohm potentiometer for the
        initial installation, an adjust it for the best performance.  When
        the value is too low, the radio will key all the time, and when too
        high, it won't key at all.  A balance point is somewhere between.
        Remove the pot and measure it, and replace it with the closest
        standard value for permanent operation.

AA5MT



1 TX audio--------- .01 microfarad---------------------small tip
4 RX audio-------------------------------Large tip
2 Ground----------------------------------both sleeves
5 Squelch --not used

3 PTT----------------2.2k ohm--------------------------small tip



FYI
IBCNU
Tom


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Larry Dunn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup?
Date: 18 Feb 1996 18:51:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4g7sfk$[e-mail]>
References: <4ehqbt$[e-mail]> <4fs19s$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Dave Whitlock ([e-mail]) wrote:
: RICKCRIDER ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : In response to the ARES/RACES newsgroup, I would support such a maneuver
: : if others would.

I would support this group also.  The idea of expanding beyond just
RACES/ARES is a good one, since the served agencies (SAR, CAP, ARC,
Salvation Army) frequently work very closely with the amateur radio
groups, and often have ARES/RACES people in their groups also.

Larry Dunn / N9HSW
El Paso County, CO RACES Officer
Dist 14 CO ARES AEC
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From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:56 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:58:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4g8i1t$[e-mail]>
References: <4fj9q4$[e-mail]> <4fl6b1$[e-mail]> <4flvio$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4fomnv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Rob

The opinions of some do not sit well with others.  What one person
deems to be offensive maybe humorous to another.  There is no standard
employed here and it is too much open to interpretation.

If you get idiots that want to sue you for propogation of messages
that they deem to be unsavourey, you need to go and visit them in the
middle of the night !!

My BBS only filters out VERY offensive words which I'm sure are
offensive internationally !!! Otherwise I import/export and do NOT
play god !!!  And I do NOT read other peoples private mail is it does
NOTHING for me !!!!!




[e-mail] (Rob Janssen) wrote:

>In <4fomnv$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pete..) writes:

>>The beauty of internet forwarding is that anybody can do it.  The
>>current forwarding paths are controlled by some people that like to
>>excercise their "given right"to kill mail..

>>If they were as "pure"as they would like us to believe, there would be
>>absolutely NO PROBLEMS !!!

>Problems in mail forwarding and killing of messages should not be
>solved by cutting around it, but by reviewing and discussing the
>reasons for it.
>Usually you will find that the content of the messages is not at all
>relating to amateur radio, and is illegal to transfer in the country
>where your intermediate system resides.

>There is no such thing as a "right to send whatever you like via
>the amateur BBS system".  This should be understood by the users of
>the system.

>Rob
>--
>+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
>| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
>| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
>+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:57 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: "Tim R. Havens" <[e-mail]>
Subject: IPIP Gateway?  Help needed.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:02:21 -0500

A few years ago I was going to setup a ax.25 gateway from the Internet.
I obtained some info from ucsd.edu, and was working on it, however, I
got caught up with other things, and was unable to complete the project.
I have relocated since then, and am now trying to find some data on what
is being done today.  Can anyone point me towards the coordinating body,
and data on IPIP, or whatever gateway process is being used these days.?

My email is:  [e-mail]

Thanks.



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:58 1996
From: Ian Brothwell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Is there an all purpose TNC/Decoder?
Date: 19 Feb 1996 13:40:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4g9ukj$[e-mail]>
References: <4fr86i$[e-mail]> <4g0uug$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Hoka software in Holland *might* be able to offer something suitable.
They do decoding software that handles a great many modes but I don't have a
list in front of me at present. I don't know if they are represented in the
USA.

73, Ian G4EAN
(Wx is cold and snowy in Nottingham, central England)



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 15:59:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jack R. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Is there an all purpose TNC/Decoder?
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 23:33:45 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4fr86i$[e-mail]> <4g0uug$[e-mail]>

>
>>type packet, as well as decode other data transmissions, such as pagers,
>>both digital and alphanumeric, DTMF tones,  and other various data
>

For the receive-only listener, check the M-8000, M-4000 and M-1200
decoders offered by Universal Radio, Inc. Each includes some of the
common paging formats in addition to RTTY, AMTOR, etc. Certain of
these decoders also include DTMF and AACARS. The price ranges are from
$1350 down to $400.

Universal can be reached at [phone] (Columbus, Ohio).

Jack Smith K8ZOA



Jack Smith
jsmith @mnsinc.com


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:00 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel M Drucker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Is there an all purpose TNC/Decoder?
Date: 15 Feb 1996 22:50:40 -0500
Message-ID: <4g0uug$[e-mail]>
References: <4fr86i$[e-mail]>

[crossposted to r.r.a.digital.m]

>type packet, as well as decode other data transmissions, such as pagers,
>both digital and alphanumeric, DTMF tones,  and other various data

I haven't seen anything that did pagers, but if you're interested in a
wide variety of signals (i.e., not just packet and sstv/fax/rtty/amtor
etc), you might be best off with a DSP rig such as AEA's DSP-2232 (model
number?)...

Could someone who knows about such things continue on this point? Have
people written "interesting" modes for the AEA DSP rig?

--

           [ Daniel Drucker / [e-mail] / N2SXX ]
  you can stand there and agonize/till your agony's your heaviest load
               (Emily Saliers)


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Lill)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: JNOS lite ?
Date: 17 Feb 1996 13:54:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4g4mmm$[e-mail]>
References: <4fqkjd$[e-mail]> <4frnkg$[e-mail]>

Gary P. Fiber ([e-mail]) wrote:

: You want to have a look for a 8088 compiled version.  In the JNOS make file
: one has a choice of which processor to compile the nos for.  The 8088 is
: one choice.  Also there is a program called PKLITE which will compress the
: EXE file when the compile is finished, so it might run on your XT.  I have
: seen 1.08 run on an XT.

PKLITE makes the space required to store the EXE smaller, but would make
no difference run-time/CPU wise. If I knew what options needed, I could
compile an EXE for him.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Lill        [e-mail]      wa2zkd@wb2psi.#wny.usa.na



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (James P. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: JNOS lite ?
Date: 15 Feb 1996 13:59:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4fve83$[e-mail]>
References: <4fqkjd$[e-mail]>

PKlite will do nothing for your memory problem. It will just "squash" the
binary smaller. It will also increase loading time.
Look for a version compiled for the 8088.

n2iko >>>


In message <4frnkg$[e-mail]> - "Gary P. Fiber"
<[e-mail]> writes:
:>
:>You want to have a look for a 8088 compiled version.  In the JNOS make file
:>one has a choice of which processor to compile the nos for.  The 8088 is
:>one choice.  Also there is a program called PKLITE which will compress the
:>EXE file when the compile is finished, so it might run on your XT.  I have
:>seen 1.08 run on an XT.
:>
:>Gary
:>




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:05 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Ricky Scott)
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4fr670$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:23:18 GMT

James W. Lynch ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I have to put in my 2 cents worth.  I have used the KAM+ and still
: prefer my PK-232.  I think it receives weak signals better.  The manual

Thats strange ... I used both and found the KAM much better at weak
signal work ... but thats just an opinion.

: for the PK-232 is far superior.  In fact I think you could say
: there isn't a manual for the KAM.  Just a few scraps of paper with
: little intelligence written on them.

No MANUAL ... I have to disagree there ... I have 3 full sized manuals
that go with the KAM of about 100 pages each.  One for commands, one for
installation/hook-up and one for general information.  Thats 300 pages
worth. What does the 232 come with an encyclopedia..

: that does all of your thinking for you, then that doesn't matter,
: but if you would like to interface with your hardware, buying a KAM
: will be frustrating.

What do you mean by interface, I can access the full command set of the
KAM and with the manuals can change any parameter I want.  Plus if I want
to jump over to VHF and check on the DX net real quick I dont have to
switch a switch and change commands .... So I dont know what interfacing
with your hard ware is.  Also I use a simple term program that doesnt do
anything and work all bands/modes with my KAM.  Its not frustrating at all.
--
Ricky J. Scott                |    The comments expressed here in do not
Ship Side Support             |    reflect the views of my company or my
767 Electrical  Manuf. Eng.   |    supervisor.  In fact they wish I would
[e-mail]    |    not express my opinions.


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
Date: 17 Feb 1996 19:14:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4g59fc$[e-mail]>
References: <4fr670$[e-mail]>

In message <[e-mail]> - [e-mail] (James W.
Lynch) writes:
:>
:>Ralph Phelps ([e-mail]) wrote:
:>: I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232.
:>: Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not
:>: considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good,
:>: dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit.
:>
:>
:>: 73,
:>: Ralph
:>: WA9JST
:>
:>I have to put in my 2 cents worth.  I have used the KAM+ and still
:>prefer my PK-232.  I think it receives weak signals better.  The manual
:>for the PK-232 is far superior.  In fact I think you could say
:>there isn't a manual for the KAM.  Just a few scraps of paper with
:>little intelligence written on them.  If you will be running software
:>that does all of your thinking for you, then that doesn't matter,
:>but if you would like to interface with your hardware, buying a KAM
:>will be frustrating.
:>
:>Jim.


Well, to put it quite bluntly, you must have had a bad day. I can't imagine
ANYONE who can't get a KAM+ working on the first try. I've used the original
KAM and the KAM+ for years and I had NO problems with either of them. The 232,
however, was a lesson in frustration on the 2 occasions that I've attempted
to get them working for fellow hams. They simply don't lend themselves to
working with generic comm programs, while I've used modem comm programs of
many sorts to interface with a KAM+.

I also don't agree with your comments about manuals. I had no problem
understanding anything in a Kantronics manual. Fairly concise and to the
point. Plenty of intelligence for me, but your mileage certainly seems to
have varied.

Given a choice, I'd still pick the KAM over the 232 any day. Full dual port
functionality for the same (if not lower) price of a 232. I'm much more
interested in being able to switch radios/ports at the slightest whim, right
from the keyboard with just a couple of strokes. Couple that with the
built-in node function (which, the last time I've heard the 232 still
doesn't have) that lets stations cross-band from HF to VHF or VHF to HF, and
you have a very nice TNC that proves more functionality (especially from a
packet standpoint) and versatility , IMHO, than a 232.

Just an opinion from a satisfied KAM owner.


Jim Nuytens  N3JJA/Delaware                     Email:
V.P., Delaware Repeater Association     73700.12 @ compuserve.com
Seitz Technical Products                    Jim @ Seitz.com

             Delaware Ham Shack BBS  302-798-2002

All opinions stated above are my own, which probably accounts
for their unpopularity.



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:07 1996
From: John Wilcox/NS1Z <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
Date: 19 Feb 1996 00:18:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4g8fl3$[e-mail]>
References: <4fr670$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Well, I have had the PK-232, the DSP-2232 and now have a KAM+ (thanks
BB!). They all work well, for the average guy. You get into the hard core
contest type and many that I have spoken with prefer the PK-232. The
software probably makes more difference than the MMU to most users. Get
good software and there is little difference in them. ymmv, of course!

--
John Wilcox / NS1Z
INTERNET :204.117.6.48
          [e-mail]
Work     :[e-mail]
TCP/IP   :44.118.6.4
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From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Mead)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
Date: 19 Feb 1996 15:07:32 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ga3nk$[e-mail]>
References: <4fr670$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, moana@teleport.c
om (Charles Vollum) writes:
|> In article <4fr670$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
|>
|> > I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232.
|> > Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not
|> > considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good,
|> > dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit.
|>
|> I own both, and both are good units.  On my boat, I prefer the Kam+ due to
|> small size and better Mac software.  All of my internet email from the
|> South Pacific was handled via the Kam over AMTOR and PACTOR. I also like
|> playing with GTOR, which really smokes.
|>
|> If I could have just one unit, I think it would be the Kam Plus.
|>
|> YMMV!
|>
|> Charles
|> n7bpt

KAM+ gets my vote also. I have owned both. In addition to the reasons
stated above, the KAM+ has enough audio drive to allow me to use the
9600 baud packet jack on the back of my radio and not have to mess
with the mic cord. It also allows you to operate with an open squelch
by setting CD to 'software'. I have been able to pick up weaker signals
this way than when using squelch control.

Glenn
ke4zea


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:09 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (James W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <4fr670$[e-mail]>
Date: 15 Feb 96 13:53:38 CST

Ralph Phelps ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232.
: Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not
: considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good,
: dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit.


: 73,
: Ralph
: WA9JST

I have to put in my 2 cents worth.  I have used the KAM+ and still
prefer my PK-232.  I think it receives weak signals better.  The manual
for the PK-232 is far superior.  In fact I think you could say
there isn't a manual for the KAM.  Just a few scraps of paper with
little intelligence written on them.  If you will be running software
that does all of your thinking for you, then that doesn't matter,
but if you would like to interface with your hardware, buying a KAM
will be frustrating.

Jim.

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst,  Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO
Southeast District, Phone: [phone], Email: [e-mail]
Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:11 1996
From: Ian Brothwell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
Date: 19 Feb 1996 13:38:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4g9ugm$[e-mail]>
References: <4fr670$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

The comments that I've received over here in the UK is that the KAM is better
at HF (non-packet) modes and the PK-232 is better at packet.

Remember that the PK-232 can't operate both ports at once (and I understand
that AEA's DSP-2232 was supposed to have this simultaneous operation built-in
but actually got it sometime after launch, according to info I've received her
e
in G-land) whereas the Kam can do this because it has two modems within it.

This difference in modem design might also mean that the Kam can operate a tru
e
170Hz shift for RTTY whereas the PK-232 might (might - I can't remember this
one 100%) use a 200Hz shift. Okay, both shifts should work but I'd personally
prefer to use as close to 170Hz as I can get.

My Kam is c1987 but the manuals were certainly more than just scraps of paper;
I have found them to be excellent guides to both data comms and the Kam itself
.
I wonder if the person who made the "scraps of paper" comment bought
second-hand and didn't receive the full manual set?

One other factor in favour of the Kam is that most are user-upgradable simply
by replacing the EPROM. The KamPlus can partially be implemented in the old Ka
m
though there are limitations on RAM that prevent full implementation.

I bought a Kam second-hand; I've also had a PK-232 for review and you'd
certainly notice a difference in size - the PK-232 is at least twice as big as
the Kam. I've heard of fellow UK hams trading in PK-232s for Kams but I've not
heard of anyone going the other way.

CI can't comment about the PK-900 because I've not used one - have you
considered what that has to offer?

73 from a snowy-white Nottingham in central England.

Ian, G4EAN



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:12 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (James W. Lynch)
Subject: Re: KAMPlus TNC Goes haywire!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <4fpbki$[e-mail]>
Date: 15 Feb 96 13:45:51 CST

Marinus Willemstijn ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Thanks for reading...

: Can anyone please help with the following problem. I have a
: KamPlus TNC which I bought secondhand. It works fine, but when
: I switch it off and on again it goes in to some kind of mode
: where it wont accept any commands from Winpack.

: I then have to use a hard reset to reset the TNC and then
: change all parameters again, etc, etc.

: Its becoming quite a drag because I now have to leave it on
: 24hrs a day.

: Is the internal battery maybe at fault - but why doesn't it
: reset to defaults when switched on again?

: Please help.

: Marinus
: ZS6MAW
: [e-mail]

I don't know anything about Winpack, but I do know that the KamPlus has
a host mode.  Is it possible that Winpack is talking to the Kam in
host mode and when you turn it off and on, it drops out of host mode into
command mode???

Just a possible reason.
After you turn it back on, drop out of Winpack and bring up a terminal
emulator and see if it is talking to you that way.

Jim.

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst,  Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO
Southeast District, Phone: [phone], Email: [e-mail]
Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:13 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Kantronics KPC-9612 problem or not?
Date: 16 Feb 96 01:53:34 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Any of your KPC-9612 owners out there having problems with
version 6.0 software?? Seems that two individuals here locally
had quite a few messages pass through thier personal mailboxes.
The mailbox does a RENUMBER on all the messages, restarting back
with number 1,2,3, ....  At the same time they experienced
strange problems with certain characters not working.  Turned out that
the REDISPLAY was changed from $12 (ctl R) to $4C (L) for one guy,
the other's was changed to $31 (1).  Changing it back to the default
value solved the trouble.

If you have this problem or have heard of it, please send me a
reply.  Thanks.

Internet    :[e-mail]
BBS AX25  :ag8y@w8blv.#day.oh.usa.noam
QTH       :Middletown, Ohio
73 Ernie



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
Date: 14 Feb 96 10:33:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Landline BBS and TNC Door
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>




>>Where can I find a program that I can use with my Landline BBS so that
>>users can access my TNC and gate over to packet on 2 meters.

ARPD124.ZIP is available on ATTENTION to Details BBS 909-681-6221. Best
one available!

PLEASE do not let your Users use your station as a control point without
proper authorization/protection! Here's my TNC ACCESS CONTRACT:



                       ATTENTION to Details BBS
                       5085 Trail Canyon Drive
                       Mira Loma, CA  91752-1685

            Voice - 909-681-6210       BBS - 909-681-6210


---------------------------------------------------------------------
                      TNC Packet Access Agreement
---------------------------------------------------------------------
This following Rules and Regulations must be agreed to before access
to the TNC Door will be granted. You will be required to send a copy
of this Agreement - as well as a copy of your Ham License - to ATD
BBS. This may outwardly seem unreasonable, but there are legal rami-
fications involved, and I'd rather not have to respond to any FCC
complaints that have my name on them <grin>. Here we go:

1.  You agree to follow all Part 97 regulations.

2.  You agree to relinquish the TNC whenever requested by the Sysop.

3.  You agree to report any and all abnormalities while using the
    TNC - a Message to the SYSOP will suffice.

4.  You agree NOT to change your Callsign - using TNC commands -
    while using the TNC Door.

5.  You agree to adhere to any rule changes made in the future
    concerning the operation of the TNC Door on ATD BBS. I promise
    to announce any changes that affect operation of the TNC Door
    as soon as possible, via either the [N]ewsletter or via private
    EMail to you.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

If you agree to the above, then print out this entire textfile, sign
below, and and return with a copy of your Amateur Radio License. You
will then be  granted Amateur Radio Operator (HAM) access.


Signed _______________________________  Date ___________________________

Callsign______________________________  License Class___________________


Mail to:               ATTENTION to Details BBS
                       TNC Access
                       5085 Trail Canyon Drive
                       Mira Loma, CA  91752-1685

[e-mail]
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| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Kaylor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: LOGGING SOFTWARE
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:40:23 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 03:11:22 GMT, [e-mail] (David Sosnin)
wrote:

>
>
>Can anyone tell me some GOOD logging software that I can use for my
>Ham Radio Log? I can use either Windows based or DOS based. If you
>could tell me where to find it and a little bit about it would be
>great.
>
>Thanks
>
>N4TTN
>

I use a program called Log-EQF it is written by a gentleman in PA. It
is a excellant program, it will run on any dos based computer and runs
fine under windows and windows 95. It works with all the computer
based callbooks and has 2 user defined fields and a notepad for each
contact. It works with most all computer controlled radios. It has a
split screen packet window and also works with packet cluster
software. It has several contests built into it and you can define
your own if you like. It is a great program and the registration is
only $30 and he is very helpful if you have any problems. It is on
most of the shareware CD's like bucmaster and QRZ. You can contact him
at 412-457-2584. Hope this helps. 73 de Dave KB8EAP.


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed LeBlanc)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for: FAX S/W for PK232MBX
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 04:15:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4g3knb$[e-mail]>

Does any one know of a good FAX software program to run on the
PK232MBX?  Is there a copy available at an FTP site?  Thanks.

73, Ed [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bruce & Debora Gordon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: MacRatt III v 1.0a  is out!
Date: 18 Feb 1996 21:54:57 GMT
Message-ID: <4g877h$[e-mail]>
References: <4g3gcb$[e-mail]>

Well I have good news to report about the software and support of
MacRatt III 1.0a.  I have exchanged messages with the Kevin, the
author, and find him to be very ammenable, and extremely helpful in
resolving some of the 2232, and dual port problems in the application.
There is a later version of Macratt III, V1.0b which corrects a bug in
the dual port implimintation.  I have beat up on the 1.0b version now
for a few hours and It has been a pleasure to use.
The UI (User Interface) has some very interesting, and cool features
that will make those folks that have the Mailbox and Gateway modes
enabled, very happy.  There is a lot more to the application than first
meets the eye, and I still haven't fooled around with the color stuff
yet.  It seems that I may have been a little hasty in some of the
comments in the earlier post, but only time will tell if AEA can come
up with the support that their customers deserve.  Kevin sure has done
a bangup job of supporting the application for me and I wish him great
success in any further enhancements for MacRatt III.

Bruce AL7AQ

  Bruce Gordon * Debora Gordon R.N.         Bruce's Trading Post
        P.O. Box EXI                        Excursion Inlet South
     Juneau, Alaska 99850               Excursion Inlet, Alaska 99850

    University of Alaska            Remote Weather Data Collection Site
   [e-mail]               AL7AQ@KL7HFI * KL7WJ@KL7HFI
    [e-mail]                  Wards Cove Packing Co.

       ****  Have bandwidth and connection   Will communicate  ****


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel M Drucker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MFJ 1278 to Alinco DJ-F1T wiring?
Date: 18 Feb 1996 19:01:55 -0500
Message-ID: <4g8elj$[e-mail]>


I need information on how to wire a MFJ 1278 TNC to the
Alinco DJ-F1T HT.

Thank you.


--

           [ Daniel Drucker / [e-mail] / N2SXX ]
   Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ben Sager)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Motorola 9600 Mods Needed
Date: 16 Feb 96 15:24:39 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello,

I don't know if I am posting this to the right group or not and
apologize up front if I offend anyone for a wrong posting.

We are having great difficulty finding a source containing the mods
for various Motorola radios to make them 9600 baud packet capable, if
possible, otherwise 1200 baud.. I am sure the problem is that I am searching
in the wrong spots.

We have access to some Radius, Maxtrac, Micor, (Motrac vhf base), Mitrek
mobile units..   There are some UHF and some VHF units and all are ready
for hamband operation.  We are trying to build a backbone network for the
statewide VA Digital Emergency Network (VDEN).  All of the units are working
but we need to interface the tnc's to them correctly.  Does anyone know
where I can find these Motorola mods or a good source of such information??

I can supply model numbers if needed. The older Motrac vhf pager base is
model B93MPY-1100BT-SP11 with a CC3064 xmitter and may be too old for
anything other than 1200 baud.

Any thoughts, suggestions will be appreciated!

Regards,

Ben Sager

KC4ASF.VA

(For the VDEN Steering Committee)

[e-mail]

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:21 1996
From: Leon Heller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Newby ???
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 96 20:45:50 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4g4uum$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4g4uum$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Kent Robotii" writes:

> I want to set up packet radio on my computer, I know
> you need a tnc, transmiter, and software, right now
> I have a 28.8 generic hayes modem, does the tnc replace
> this, or do you put it in, a unused expansion slot, on
> the motherboard.
> I also have a scanner, is this of any use, of course
> it only receives.
> What is the most popular tnc, where, how much, new, used?
> What kind of transmiter do I need, where, how much, new, used?
> I'm using linux & os/2
> Please respond with any helpfull suggestions, by
> email or post
> Thanx in advance.

The first thing you need to get is an amateur radio licence, although
you could monitor the packets other people are sending with just your
scanner, a TNC, and some ordinary comms software running on your
computer. The TNC includes a modem chip, and a microprocessor, and
connects to the computer via a serial port, just like an ordinary
external modem. The TNC is also connected to the microphone input and
speaker output of the transceiver, with another connection to the PTT
input, so that the TNC can switch the transceiver between transmit and
receive. For ordinary packet this is all you need. For TCP/IP, you need
special software running on your PC, similar to that used for accessing
the Internet. A version is available for Linux.

You can manage with just a modem chip, and a few other components, with
software performing all the other functions of the TNC running on a PC.
This is how the Baycom packet system works.

It is also possible to use a DSP-based sound card (like the Cardinal),
with software running on the DSP and the PC, for 1200 baud and 9600 baud
packet. A small hardware mod. is required for the PTT connection.

73, Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM                | "Do not adjust your mind, there is
E-mail [e-mail]  |  a fault in reality": on a wall
Phone: [phone]         |  many years ago in Oxford.


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:22 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kent Robotii)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Newby ???
Date: 17 Feb 1996 16:15:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4g4uum$[e-mail]>

I want to set up packet radio on my computer, I know
you need a tnc, transmiter, and software, right now
I have a 28.8 generic hayes modem, does the tnc replace
this, or do you put it in, a unused expansion slot, on
the motherboard.
I also have a scanner, is this of any use, of course
it only receives.
What is the most popular tnc, where, how much, new, used?
What kind of transmiter do I need, where, how much, new, used?
I'm using linux & os/2
Please respond with any helpfull suggestions, by
email or post
Thanx in advance.


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:23 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Subject: NNTP
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 01:27:24 GMT

Hello, I'm looking for anyone who can help me set-up the Network News
feature in JNOS and where I can find a copy of JNOS with NNTP built-in.
Thanks

--
                      ╔═════════════════════════════╗
                      ║  [e-mail]  ║
                      ║  [e-mail] ║
                      ╚═════════════════════════════╝


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:24 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: packet on voice repeaters
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:29:24 GMT

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ray D. Congdon) writes:

>dramatic and worked quite well.  The voice users were totally unaware of the
data
>that was being sent on the same system.  Listening to the system "in the clea
r" was
>interesting.  Data was sent at a leisurly rate until a voice conversation was

>intitiated.  At that point the data of course halted and politely waited for
an
>open spot... when that occured, between voice transmissions, the data packets
 were
>furiously exchanged!

How well this works is very dependent on the technology in use at the
user's stations.  When they use traditional TNC firmware or well-working
SCC card drivers, it will probably work nicely because the programs are
patiently waiting when there is continuous carrier detect.  As long as
the voice users are active, the packet users are effectively in a state
of suspended animation.

When they use something KISS-based, or software in which the AX.25 layer
is unaware of the DCD state (like the SCC driver in xNOS), it will be
disastrous.  The layer-2 (or higher) software will repeat each packet as
determined by the timeout timer(s), but these repeats will only be
queued in the TNC or the driver.  As soon as the channel becomes clear,
all these queued packets are sent, and you will see many duplicated
packets on the channel.  The handling of this condition is often not
optimal, and with some very buggy software it can even result in a
pathetic loop where each packet is sent 2 or more times, and REJ
responses are sent every time.

It is a pity to see that a system that worked well when first designed,
was later corrupted by the not-so-well-thought-out design of the KISS
TNC, and the DCD-unaware level2/level1 interface that resulted out of
that.

Rob
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:26 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232
Date: 14 Feb 1996 23:03:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4ftpn4$[e-mail]>

I have just upgraded my PK232 and need new software to be able to use PACTOR.
Up to now I was using PAKRATT II but I have read a lot of good reports
about PKGOLD, Could anyone tell me which is the best program?

Thanks and 73 de Gilbert, VE6GES.


--
                 [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Arden Eby)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: PK232 and WeFax?  Help.
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 04:24:13 GMT
Message-ID: <4g10ui$[e-mail]>



I have an AEA PK232 that I know does WeFax since I was able to get it
working on my (old) Macintosh.  Now I'm running a "wintel" machine
under Win95.  I like most things about the new machine but I can't
seem to find a fax program that interfaces with the PK232.  I have
found plenty of PD/shareware fax programs but all of them seem to
require me to buid a specific interface.  This seems like it should be
unnecessary since the PK232 has a fax mode.  Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

73 de Arden KI7FG


******************************************************************************
                                 Arden Eby
                      Internet:  [e-mail]
                  Packet Radio:  [e-mail]
     Homepage (Eby's Cyberscroll)  http://www.teleport.com/~arden/
******************************************************************************



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (WR)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ProsKan SSTV pgm shareware
Date: 21 Feb 1996 03:06:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4ge26o$[e-mail]>

The latest shareware version of ProsKan SSTV is always available at
http://www.mindport.net/~jamie
try it out.



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:29 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PSE HELP Kenwood TM-455 + 9600 baud
Date: 14 Feb 1996 22:59:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4ftpgm$[e-mail]>
References: <4fr94n$[e-mail]>

Francisco Costa ([e-mail]) wrote:

> My friend RUI, CT1EIF has a new TM-455E(Europe version).
> He tried to connect his 9600 baud tnc to the rig, but without sucess.
> Decoding data is 100% ok, but no data is sent out!
> All cables, connectors and tnc are OK.
> The radio is suposed to be "1200/9600 ready", but it just doesn't work!
> It seem other guy's in Europe are complaining about the same problem.

I have done some testing with a TM455 and 9k6 packet. My conclusion is
that it works perfect. Treu FM (no PLL modulation) and fast turnaround
times.

What do you mean by "no data is send out" ? Does the transmitter not key
up at all, or is there no modulation on the carrier ?

Kenwood has a strange way of naming the pins on the data connector.
PKS (packet standby) means PTT for example. Are you sure the cable is correct?

73 Joop, pe1dna



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:31 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: PSE HELP Kenwood TM-455 + 9600 baud
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4fr94n$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:32:46 GMT

In <4fr94n$[e-mail]> Francisco Costa <[e-mail]> wr
ites:

>Hi

>My friend RUI, CT1EIF has a new TM-455E(Europe version).
>He tried to connect his 9600 baud tnc to the rig, but without sucess.
>Decoding data is 100% ok, but no data is sent out!
>All cables, connectors and tnc are OK.
>The radio is suposed to be "1200/9600 ready", but it just doesn't work!
>It seem other guy's in Europe are complaining about the same problem.

>Is it a E version problem???

>Do you know why this happen???

I have never seen such a TRX myself, but when I helped someone else
over-the-air I noticed that the input is apparently very insensitive.
The other guy had increased the deviation setting on his modem to the
maximum, but still had only 1 KHz or so deviation.
He had to build a separate audio amp (using an op-amp).

Maybe you have a similar problem, and your modem provides even less
audio output so you think you have no data output at all?

Rob
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:32 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters
Date: 15 Feb 1996 15:49:36 GMT
Message-ID: <4fvkmg$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:34:13 GMT, Robert Walker <[e-mail]
> wrote:
>
> : In Brian Kantor's posting, he differentiates between a 'digi' and a
> : 'digipeater'. Thanks, Brian, I had never thought there might be a
> : difference between the two.

There isn't.  I should have been clearer.  'digi' is an abbreviation for
'digipeater'.  They're the same thing.

They are NOT the same thing as a realtime repeater that happens to be
repeating digital signals such as packet.  That's sometimes called a
'digital repeater' but because of the confusion of terms, most people
call them packet repeaters (if they call them anything printable, that is.)

>In common usage, here in Australia, the
> : word 'digi' is used as a contraction of the word 'digipeater' and,
> : therefore, the words both mean the same thing(at least here and N.Z.).
>
>The distinction is news to me as well.  Must be a west coast (U.S.)
>thing (ducking, running)

Naw, just two countries separated by a common language.

        - Brian


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Karl Medcalf (WK5M))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Remote access to PBBS?
Date: 16 Feb 1996 13:16:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4g202n$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Hi,
>        I'm pretty new to this packet stuff, and have a question.  What
>I want to do is be able to connect to my home PBBS from elsewhere, to
>read my mail, etc.  Now, other people can connect to my PBBS just fine,
>but when I try to do it, I can't connect.  MYCALL is KI7FL and the PBBS
>is KI7FL-1.  I'm using both a KAM and a KPC-3.  I guess maybe it's a
>problem with my home station and other station both having the same
>call, but how do I fix it?
>
>Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>Russ  KI7FL
>--
>[e-mail]                 __|__
>PP-ASEL   (AOPA #01215297)   KI7FL (DM79na)    CAP  _______(*)_______
>"Pick me up so high...where eagles fly!" - Sammy Hagar    o/ \o
>"This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards, or policy of
>the United States Air Force Academy or the United States government."


Hello Russ.

You're exactly right - it's being caused by both TNCs having the same call.
The remote PBBS unit, see a connect from you (KI7FL) and notices that the
MYCALL in that TNC IS KI7FL, so the PBBS thinks it's an "internal" connect.
It's trying to talk to the serial port, but you're at a remote location.

Simply stated, each station on the air at the same time, in the same band,
needs a different callsign. I would suggest using KI7FL-2 or some other SSID
in your portable station. Don't choose an SSID that conflicts with other
functions of your TNC, though.

--
73, Karl                Internet: [e-mail]
                        Packet:   WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM
*****  The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not *****
  *****       necessarily reflect those of my employer!        *****



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (MarcWA3AJR)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: RTTY/packet
Date: 14 Feb 1996 23:34:56 -0500
Message-ID: <4fud5g$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (MarcWA3AJR)

All invited to look at the RTTY Loop Home Page, home page of 73 Magazine's
RTTY Loop column - now in its 19th year covering radioteletype and digital
communication... at...
  http://www2.ari.net/ajr/rtty/
73, Marc WA3AJR


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:35 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tedd Doda)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Running FBB under OS/2?
Date: 20 Feb 1996 11:37:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4gcbqb$[e-mail]>

Greetings. I'm thinking about taking over the local BBS in the Kitchener,
Ontario area and would like some input from anyone running FBB under OS/2.
The machine is a 486 2/66 with 16 megs of ram running Warp Connect.

Is there comparable software *native* to OS/2? I do have Win/OS2 so Windows
software is a possibility as well (although all the software I run is native
OS/2 other than TPK).

Memory settings would be a great help, as well as any info on running BPQ.


Any help would be appriciated.

Best 73,

Tedd Doda, CET
(Lazer Audio and Electronics/ Baden, Ont. Canada)
packet ve3tjd@va3rwp ******* Running TPK under Warp Connect!
e-mail [e-mail]** Running the IAK in Warp Connect!
[Team OS/2 in Canada]



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:36 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (C. T. Nadovich)
Subject: Re: SEX: Can J/TNOS for Linux run without a terminal?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:55:43 GMT

[e-mail] (C. T. Nadovich) writes:

>Nidge Jones <[e-mail]> writes:

>>If you are running Tnos under linux then the Tnos FAQ file will tell you
>>how to edit your inittab file to start Tnos at boot - and also if need be
>>get the kernel to ping tnos every 15 minutes to make sure it hasn't crashed.
>>If it has linux it will kill the tnos process and restart it !

>Thanks, I'll check that out.

I just did. Sheesh! Didn't anybody take the time to READ my post. The
technique given in the FAQ requires redirection to some controlling
terminal.

I want to run TNOS as a DETACHED process in the background. That means I
don't want it associated with a controlling terminal. This has been
impossible in the past and still seems to be impossible.

And that's a FAQ.
--
73 de KD3BJ SK ..                               http://www.kd3bj.ampr.org
[phone] (voice)                        [phone] (data/fax)


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Joe Burnham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Shareware PACTOR program?
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 11:20:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Is there a shareware PACTOR program (like 'PCTOR' which does AMTOR?)

I have BMKMULTY (1991) here which works fine with my AT and CP-1...but
I've not heard anything about this software for ywars...and the last
time I *did* hear about a PACTOR upgrade, it was something like
$75.00...which is a bit steep for me at the moment.

73.....


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:38 1996
From: Paul Bastian <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Soundblaster Cards and WEFAX & SSTV
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:23:14 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gb0f8$[e-mail]>

Feroz Ghouse wrote:
>
> I have read about being able to use the soundblaster sound cards to decode a
nd display
> both WEFAX and SSTV.
>
> How do I set about this?
>
> I Thank you for all and assistance
> 73,
>
> Feroz, 4S7FG/WU9N
        I know of Two different programs for what you want, there maybe
more. There is a program called Weather Man to pick up WEFAX, then there
is a program called Color Slow Scan Tv for Blaster, for the SSTV.  I have
them both.  If you would like more info I can give you more details.

        Paul




From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Greg Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TAPR Announces new Web Page on Amateur Audio News Programs
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 96 06:23:27 -0600
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

TAPR makes available Amateur Radio News Services on the Internet.
Feb 18, 1996
----

TAPR is proud to announce the creation a new set of web pages that focus on
Amateur Radio News Services.  This page can be reached from the tapr home page
http://www.tapr.org

This new page contains audio from Amateur Radio Newsline, the RAIN Report
(Radio Amateur Information Network), and Ham Radio and More.  All audio is
provided by the RealAudio system.  RealAudio players are available for Mac,
Windows, and UNIX based computers.  We are currently only encoding for
14.4Kbps access speeds, to lower the consumption of our hard drive space. We
will be looking at doing more 28.8Kbps+ speed access encoding later in the
year.

These audio pages will be updated in different manners.  Newsline is updated
each week.  The RAIN report is a monthly service.  Shows from the national
hour of Ham Radio and More are being made available on a 'best of' selection.

TAPR hopes that this page will help make these amateur radio news programs
more readily available to the amateur community.

---

The Ham Radio and More 'Best of' currently includes:
   * Bob Bruninga, WB4APR, Author of APRS
   * Greg Jones, WD5IVD, President TAPR
   * Dan Meredith, N7MRP (Packet, the Internet, and more!)
   * Phil Karn, KA9Q (TCP/IP and Spread Spectrum)
   * Dick Daniels, W4PUJ (Phase 3D and AMSAT)
   * Lyle Johnson, WA7GXD (Packet Radio)
   * Lew McFadin, W5DID (SAREX Project)
   * Jack Tiley, N7RWJ (Spread Spectrum Communications)
   * Lyle Johnson, WA7GXD (History of Packet Radio and TAPR)

With more to be added in the coming months!

You might note the slight bias towards digital topics :-)

---

NOTE: TAPR is currently only supporting 5 audio channels currently.  If you
get a busy connect, just try again at a later time.

VOLUNTEER? We are looking for people who might be interested in setting up a
rotation for doing the Newsline encoding.  If you think you might like to help
record and then encode the weekly Newsline feed for the page, please contact
[e-mail] and let us know.  Having a rotation should make it easier to
keep this page current.


--

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Sven Koenig)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: using Macs to switch stuff on/off?
Date: 15 Feb 1996 03:15:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4fu8fp$[e-mail]>


I would like to use my Mac to switch a couple of low-voltage devices
on and off. Are there any "cards" (Mac specific ones or, more likely,
ones with a standard serial interface) that do just that?

Also, where to look for AD/DA converters and relay cards?

Every hint is appreciated...
Thanks!
Sven



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Forbes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: using Macs to switch stuff on/off?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:33:29 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4fu8fp$[e-mail]>

In article <4fu8fp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Sven
Koenig) wrote:

> I would like to use my Mac to switch a couple of low-voltage devices
> on and off. Are there any "cards" (Mac specific ones or, more likely,
> ones with a standard serial interface) that do just that?
>
> Also, where to look for AD/DA converters and relay cards?
>
> Every hint is appreciated...
> Thanks!
> Sven

Another possibility is the CP-290 X10 interface. It connects between a Mac
serial port and the power line to control up to 8 X-10 modules, including
relay modules. The software it comes with is pretty dated, but I saw that
is still being sold by:

   http://techmall.com/smarthome/x10compatlist.html

 -- Scott


From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:43 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Aidukas KT4DI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2
Date: 20 Feb 1996 19:27:41 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gd7bd$[e-mail]>
References: <4fmdil$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Keywords: WA8DED

In article [e-mail],
[e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) writes:

>Hi,
>
>       Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for
>the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should
>have ie. NORD><LINK enhancements etc.)? I don't know anything
>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere
>although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version.
>
>       Thanks.
>
>73 de 9V1ZV Daniel
>
> Daniel Wee | [e-mail]
> 9V1ZV      | [e-mail]


I would look on the new QRZ CD Rom disk, Jan '96. I beleive it has this and mo
re, including BPQ etc.

--... ...--  -.. .

Paul  KT4DI
Weekdays: 407-724-7879
Email: [e-mail]
Packet: KT4DI @ KT4DI.#MLBFL.FL.USA.NOAM



From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:44 1996
From: Roland S Geter PhD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: WTB:5KW AM Transmitter
Date: 17 Feb 1996 07:58:55 GMT
Message-ID: <4g41rv$[e-mail]>
References: <4fn47d$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

What are you going to do with it?

Roland S Geter PhD
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From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:44 1996
From: Roland S Geter PhD <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: WTB:5KW AM Transmitter
Date: 17 Feb 1996 07:57:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4g41pi$[e-mail]>
References: <4fn47d$[e-mail]>
To: spiro,evagelakos

What are you going to do with it?

Roland S Geter PhD
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From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:46 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WX Radio now transmitting FSK
Date: 15 Feb 1996 05:28:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4fuga9$[e-mail]>
References: <4fqpao$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <4fqpao$[e-mail]>, "Stan R. Coleman" <[e-mail]> write
s:
>I'm looking for anyone who has more information on the new WX alert
>System.  It's a system that not only starts Weather Radio's (Like the
>ones at Radio Shack), but it transmits FSK signal with County, Weather
>Alert, Type of Alert, Duration, etc. information as well.

I don't know if this is what your looking for put look at:

http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov

under wireless weather information network.  hope this helps.


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From [e-mail] Wed Feb 21 16:00:47 1996
From: chsr <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WX Radio now transmitting FSK
Date: 18 Feb 1996 06:22:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4g6gip$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

All,

   Here in Fort Worth, Texas - they have been testing what is known as
County Specific Warning System. - it has been around here for about 3
years now...  When a Watch is issued- the NWS person who is putting out
the watch selects what type of watch, and the counties to be alerted on a
console on the NOAA WX radio rack...  This console is a flat panel with
a bunch of selections for different types of alerts.

    When the watch goes out, normal program is interupted and 3 digital
bursts of abount 2 or 3 seconds is heard followed by the 1050 hz alert
tone to activate the current generation of wx radios.  There is no text
going out in these transmissions, just codes to activate the radio.

     (I dont know about you but I hate being woke up for something that
passed through an hour ago).The new radios will allow you to select which
counties to alert you to and what type of alert you want to get.

(I havent seen a commercial version of these new radios yet).

Ed





From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:05 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: ### Purchasing a TNC?
Date: 21 Feb 1996 01:00:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4gdqqq$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4gd5lm$[e-mail]> <4gdblr$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Christopher K. Greenhalgh <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4gdblr$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dana Myers) wr
ites:
>
>>>Great little TNC. However, its not a TAPR clone, hence, the modem portion
>>>can not be upgraded easily. This TNC has the smallest foot print, and will
>>>run on a user installed 9vdc battery and wire clip. (which is VERY nice for
>>>portable packet from a laptop and/or field day) This TNC also supports
>>>voltage from 7vdc to 16vdc.
>
>>This statement seems to suggest that the modem in the KPC-3 can be
>>upgraded to 9600 baud operation, though possibly not easily.  From
>>a look at the KPC-3 diagram, it was clear that the KPC-3 was built
>>for 1200 baud operation *only*, and does not offer a 300 baud
>>option.  Furthermore, the HDLC interface is implemented in software
>>and, to the best of my knowledge, will not run at 9600 baud, even
>>if an external modem was connected in place of the internal 1200
>>baud modem.
>>
>> * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ
>
>Earlier in the year, I posted that a KPC-3 could not be upgraded to 9600
>(exactly because of what you cite above Dana). I was quickly "corrected"
>by a person (cant find the message right now, but Im still looking) that
>claimed in fact not only could it be done, but that they had done it, hence,
>the reason for my terminalogy above.

What did they do, replace the CPU clock crystal with one 8x the
original value?  I'll bet the current consumption went way up.

;-)


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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: ### Purchasing a TNC?
Date: 20 Feb 1996 20:41:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4gdblr$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4gd5lm$[e-mail]>

In article <4gd5lm$[e-mail]>,
Christopher K Greenhalgh <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>, Edwin Teh <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>I'd like to buy a simple TNC. Could anyone comment on the following units:
>>
>>Kantronics KPC-3,
>
>Great little TNC. However, its not a TAPR clone, hence, the modem portion
>can not be upgraded easily. This TNC has the smallest foot print, and will
>run on a user installed 9vdc battery and wire clip. (which is VERY nice for
>portable packet from a laptop and/or field day) This TNC also supports
>voltage from 7vdc to 16vdc.

This statement seems to suggest that the modem in the KPC-3 can be
upgraded to 9600 baud operation, though possibly not easily.  From
a look at the KPC-3 diagram, it was clear that the KPC-3 was built
for 1200 baud operation *only*, and does not offer a 300 baud
option.  Furthermore, the HDLC interface is implemented in software
and, to the best of my knowledge, will not run at 9600 baud, even
if an external modem was connected in place of the internal 1200
baud modem.

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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:08 1996
From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: ### Purchasing a TNC?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:40:32 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: Edwin Teh <[e-mail]>

I think the Tigertronics Baypac modem with BAYCOM software or the SofTNC
software is the most bounce for the buck and best performance for 1200
baud (still the most used) packet.  Ramsey also sells this same unit and
software for about 50 bucks brand new.  This assumes you have an
IBM-compatible PC of some sort.  If by some odd chance you have a
working Commodore 64 or 128 contact me and I can help you get even
better software-based TNC systems up and running.  Similar software and
inexpensive modems exist for the Mac too.
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dean Denter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 9600 radio recomendations? (was Re: data radio information please!)
Date: 22 Feb 1996 22:08:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4gipg3$[e-mail]>
References: <4ge2ac$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
        [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>To do 9600 baud, a transmitter needs to be true FM (not PM), and must
>not inject modulation into a PLL. That eliminates most synthesized
>transmitters. A crystal controlled transmitter usually works, though
>some are PM, beware. And a few radios that do modulation at a fixed
>IF frequency will work, mostly the so-called multimode units, IE IC-820,
>IC-275, etc, but not TS-711 or TS-751. Most ordinary synthesized
>transceivers won't work, or at least won't work well.
>
>The second thing a radio needs if it is to do 9600 baud is a receive
>IF filter that is phase linear across the bandpass needed for the
>modulation envelope. Most transceivers don't have this either. Their
>filters are too narrow, filters become very phase non-linear near their
>edges, so you need wider than normal filters for 9600 baud packet in
>order to keep the signal centered in the linear response region of
>the filter. Of course you also need direct discriminator access so
>that the audio shaping circuits won't corrupt the eye pattern.
>
>There are a few radios that do work well for 9600 baud. The Tekk
>900 series works, Kantronics and MFJ make crystal controlled data
>radios that work, and as mentioned above, some multimodes work Ok
>too. Azden also mades a radio, the PCS9600D, that works well. But
>the Kenwood, Yaesu, Icom, Standard, Alinco, etc radios that are
>*advertised* as 9600 baud ready *aren't*. They all have one or
>more of the defects listed above, and their BER performance is
>dismal.

OK, since the majority of the amateur type accepted radios don't do
very well at 9600, can someone recommend a commercial type accepted
radio that is easy to modify, cheap, and has good performance at
9600?  I already know that the mitreks and maxar 80s work at 9600,
but how easy are they to modify?

I'm looking for a radio that will work well at around 445Mhz and with
at least 10W of power (I'd use the TEKK, but my signal is just a little
too weak to get into the repeater properly).  Being a hidden transmitter
isn't a problem -- I'll be using a 9600 repeater.


regards,
Dean.
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Markus Lenggenhager)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ? WIN pgm for PTC controller ?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:39:58 GMT
Message-ID: <4gk5gk$[e-mail]>

Hi all

For a few weeks now I'm poud owner of a new PTC-II controller, which
offers the new PACTOR-2 mode (a major improvement over PACTOR-1).
Unfortunately the terminal software that comes with the PTC-II is a
DOS program, and in my opinion its user interface leaves a lot of room
for improvement.
Although the PTC controllers are not (yet) widespread outside Europe,
I would like to ask here if anyone knows about a Windows program to
control the PTC controller.

tnx + 73
Markus, HB9BRJ




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:12 1996
From: [e-mail] (DOG2000X)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.college,alt.radio.uk.talk-radio,alt.rave,alt.revolution.counter,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.psychedelic,rec.music.artists.queensryche,rec.music.progressive,rec.music.reggae,rec.music.tori-amos,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: A new band on the Web, FIST-The Band
Date: 21 Feb 1996 23:00:47 -0500
Message-ID: <4ggppf$[e-mail]>
References: <4fc0q3$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (DOG2000X)

I was wondering if you were aware of a band (very large at the time) from
the early 80's called FIST.  I believe they were from Germany or Sweden.
They put out at least two fairly good selling metal albums, "Hot Spikes"
and "Thunder In Rock."  "Thunder In Rock" was one of the coolest metal
albums ever produced.  It was released, I believe, in late 1981 and many
of my friends purchased the same album.

That FIST toured with bands such as KROKUS in what was the original
"Monsters of Rock" in late '81 and early '82.

I am still a great fan of the original FIST and wondered if any of your
members were remaining members from that band or if you named your band in
dedication to those great metal warriors from the past?


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:13 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Wade)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: ACARS Decoding
Date: 24 Feb 1996 15:42:24 GMT
Message-ID: <4gnbl0$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi,
 Does any onw know of a shareware or PD program that will
decode ACARS??. If not is there any more detailed info
on it on the net ??.
 TIA, Dave Wade , G4UGM ,<[e-mail]>

p.s. replies by E-Mail if possible. I can't always see the news
and it gets aged PDQ on our server.


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:39:25 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> Bill Crocker <[e-mail]> wri
tes:
>I'm considering buying an AEA Multi-Mode controller.  The two I've narrowed i
t down to
>are the PK-900 and the PK-232MBX.  I've read the specs and I don't see a real
 big
>advantage in the PK-900 for the extra money.  Also, it AEA's software the bes
t, or
>should I look at others?

Lots of people *hate* AEA's software, though you can run the units from
an ordinary terminal program.

>AEA is also bring out a DSP (Digital Signal Processing) version of the PK-232
...considering
>I have a Kenwood TS-870S with DSP, would this new model be worth waiting for?

The DSP filtering in your radio and the DSP *demodulator* in the modem are
two very different things. In general, DSP demodulation is definitely
worth it (but that assumes the DSP is competently done, which isn't an
a priori given with a new piece of gear). Now if you were talking about
MFJ's new offering, where the DSP is just a bandpass filter in front of
the hardware demodulator, then the answer would be that you don't need
it because your radio already supplies it. That's different. A properly
implemented DSP demodulator can give nearly ideal demodulation, something
very hard to do in hardware. The demodulator can also adapt its characteristic
depending on the type of signal being demodulated, so DSP is particularly
useful for a multimode unit.

Nobody knows yet if AEA did it right in their new unit. If they did,
it may be worth the wait. But you can get a P-38 from HAL today, or
the German PACTOR II DSP box (from PacComm), or the TAPR DSP-93, etc.
I think non-DSP demodulators will be virtually obsolete for HF in a
couple of years, or at least relegated to low end uses. I also expect
to see new modulations and protocols appear and gain wide support in
the next few years. A DSP unit from a manufacturer committed to keeping
it current with methods in use will be important. HAL has made that
commitment, and AEA says they will in their ads. Of course an open
architecture like the DSP-93 means you can write your own code if
need be.

Buying a hardware based controller now may be like buying a 1200 baud
telco modem, IE it may be suitable for little more than acting as a
paperweight in short order as newer DSP designs quickly obsolete it.

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:15 1996
From: Bill Crocker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:42:19 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4gmcro$[e-mail]>

Scott:

Thanks Scott!  Your opinion is the majority by far!  I think I'll take your ad
vice and
get the PK-232MBX.

You didn't mention what software you prefered...?

Thanks again, Bill Crocker


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Holland)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 06:56:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4gmcro$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Bill Crocker <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'm considering buying an AEA Multi-Mode controller.  The two I've narrowed i
t down to
>are the PK-900 and the PK-232MBX.  I've read the specs and I don't see a real
 big
>advantage in the PK-900 for the extra money.

The PK-232MBX is a very nice unit for the money.  The PK-900 is a nice
toy, but your right, it's really not worth the extra money.  The
PK-232MBX is more TNC than you'll probably ever use.  I have two of
them and have gotten a lot of use out them.

>Also, it AEA's software the best, or should I look at others?

You should never limit yourself to looking at one company's software.
AEA's software is nice, but there might be features that you won't
like.  I've tried their software, but went with somebody elses in the
long run.  Don't be afraid to try all that you can.

>AEA is also bring out a DSP (Digital Signal Processing) version of the PK-232
...considering
>I have a Kenwood TS-870S with DSP, would this new model be worth waiting for?

I guess it counts on how long the wait is.  Also, I never buy a new
product (or new version of one) until it's been out for a while and I
hear the owners complaints or praises.  If you want a good TNC right
away, go with the PK-232MBX.  If not, wait and see what the new one is
like.

73's



Scott - N2BZT

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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (John Y. Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Anyone Using HP200LX For Packet?
Date: 20 Feb 1996 03:15:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4gbed0$[e-mail]>

Hi, I'm thinking of trying packet.  I'm also thinking of getting a HP200LX
palmtop.  I wonder if anyone out there has run packet using a 200LX?
Could you let me know how suitable it is?

73, KE6GPF



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:18 1996
From: [e-mail](Jean-Pierre Heulin )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AX.25 C implementation
Date: 26 Feb 1996 13:57:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4gse8a$[e-mail]>
References: <4gnfai$[e-mail]>

In <4gnfai$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Raviv Yuval)
writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>
>  Can some1 point me to AX.25 implementation in C ?
>
>
>  thanks
>
>  [e-mail]
>

Get JNOS from ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip

best, kc6jet


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:20 1996
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Otto)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: data radio information please!
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:07:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4ge2ac$[e-mail]>

Hi!
I just got my license today, and I need information, and lots of it.
Maybe there's a big ol' FAQ out there for me?  Well, here are some
specific questions:

1)      I visited a local ham who highly recommended a KAM Plus.  Its speed is
        1200/9600 baud at VHF/UHF/HF, right?  Will it REALLY transfer at 9600,
        or will the actual throughput be more like 2400 baud?
2)      Isn't 1200 baud the max allowed speed for HF bands?  If that is the
        case, then I will NOT want to spend the extra bucks for a TNC like the
        KAM Plus to handle HF, because I want a TNC to transfer data, not to
        type to somebody.  So if this is true, what TNC would you guys
        recommend, where to get it from, and what is the price?
3)      I saw somewhere on the net last night that a special transciever is
        required to transfer data above 1200 baud.  Is this true, and if so,
        what 2m HTs would you guys recommend?  Another question here is, how
        does a TNC attach to an HT?
4)      Are there any TNCs above 9600 baud for sale, and are they very
        reliable?
5)      (you'll love this one) Is there a possible way to use TNCs to play
        games like Doom and Descent?  The local ham could not describe how a
        TNC functions well enough for me to understand.  If I'm lucky and a
        TNC communicates like a modem or null modem, then great.  Or could I
        possibly make a TSR to connect the two TNCs and then could use them
        like modems or null modems?

Thanks for your time.  If you can, I would love for replies to be e-mailed to
me in addition to being posted here, because I don't get on the net too much,
and when I do, some newsgroup posts are usually gone.

Kevin


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Karl Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: data radio information please!
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:05:16 -0500
Message-ID: <CSLE87-2202961005160001@145.39.1.10>
References: <4ge2ac$[e-mail]> <4gfooq$[e-mail]>

In article <4gfooq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:07:53 GMT, Kevin Otto <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Hi!
> >I just got my license today, and I need information, and lots of it.
> >Maybe there's a big ol' FAQ out there for me?  Well, here are some
> >specific questions:
> >
> >1)     I visited a local ham who highly recommended a KAM Plus.  Its speed
is
> >       1200/9600 baud at VHF/UHF/HF, right?  Will it REALLY transfer at 960
0,
> >       or will the actual throughput be more like 2400 baud?
>
>    You're limited to 300baud on the HF bands.
>
>    Throughput for a 9600baud modem over RF is going to be noticibly slower
> than an equivalent land-line modem, primarily because you'll be using
> a simplex link, and you have to deal with PLL lock times, etc.
>
>      < S N I P >

Let's make just one minor correction:  You CAN run 1200 baud on 10M; above
28 MHz you are not limited to just 300.  However, propagation on 10 has
been so bad you could probably do better using a wet string!  Also I would
further emphasize Rich's comment that throughput over a simplex radio
connection is greatly reduced compared to a quiet full duplex telephone
line:

For a VHF radio packet rule of thumb, figure that AT BEST you will see one
fourth the throughput of landline modems operating at the same speed.
Thus on 10M your 1200 baud packet runs about as fast a 300 baud wireline.
On the lower HF bands you can probably cut that number down by another
50%.  If you think 300 baud landlines are slow, HF (300 baud) packet radio
averages 1/8 of that, or about 36 baud!!  The more exotic modes AMTOR,
PACTOR and CLOVER are faster, much faster, and very much faster
respectively.

The usual disclaimer:  Your thumb may be bigger.     73
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:22 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: data radio information please!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4ge2ac$[e-mail]> <4gfooq$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:34:41 GMT

In article <4gfooq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>   You're limited to 300baud on the HF bands.

10 meters is HF, and 1200 baud is allowed there. I know, big whoop.
With the sunspots as they are, 10 meters might as well be VHF. :-)

Gary
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es
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dana Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: data radio information please!
Date: 22 Feb 1996 17:52:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4giahm$[e-mail]>
References: <4ge2ac$[e-mail]> <4gfooq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4gfooq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>>   You're limited to 300baud on the HF bands.
>
>10 meters is HF, and 1200 baud is allowed there. I know, big whoop.
>With the sunspots as they are, 10 meters might as well be VHF. :-)

Kepp in mind non-Morse data is only allow between 28.0 and 28.3MHz.
I've run 1200baud on 28.195 several times, usually into adjacent
states. Pretty cool.

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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:24 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FBB & MFJ1278
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:23:47 GMT
Message-ID: <4gblvn$[e-mail]>

Hello ALL

I am running an FBB system v515c, bpq4.06 and a single mfj1278 in kiss
mode.

Problem is that the TNC goes BESERK every two days and totally screws
up !!.  It looses its baud rate and is very difficult to reset..

Does ANYONE have any ideas ????





From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:25 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael Nowlen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS: RCA TAC200 6 Meter Mobile Radios, 100 Watts
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 03:22:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4ggnf6$htc@news>


High quality Commercial FM Two-Way Radio.  Great for Packet Nodes.

RCA TAC 200 Low Band Mobile Radio High Split (42-50 Mhz)
FULLY SOLID-STATE Commercial FM Transceiver. 6 Frequency, Crystal
Controlled. Can be converted to 6 Meter Operation.
100 Watt transmit.  Excellent specs.
Complete with Control Head, Microphone, Cable, 1 set of channel
elements.  25 lbs.

Plus shipping charges
$100

Mike Nowlen, WB4UKB
Reston, VA
703-716-1363

No calls after 10PM Eastern please.




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:25 1996
From: edmund emich <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FS:2m HT
Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:53:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4gnqbm$[e-mail]>

ADI AT-200 2m HT
5w, 130-168 Mhz RX
TX 144-148 Mhz , Mars/CAP capable
20 mem,CTCSS,DTMF,SCAN,CSC,PAGING,CALL,ect.
Very small, only 2" at hand hold.
NEW ONLY $199.00
Call [phone]
EMAIL   [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:27 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Bob Crafton)
Subject: Re: HAMCOM LATEST VERSION ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 20:34:03 GMT
References: <[e-mail]>

As far as I know, the last release I've seen was Hamcom ver. 3.0.  I have
had the same experience with Hamcom on RTTY.  Works ok on strong clean
signals, but not very well otherwise.  Seems to do a good job on CW,
though.   If there is a newer version, or if you find a way to improve
RTTY reception, let me know.

73,
Bob Crafton, WA3SLE

SAMIR KHAYAT ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi,

> Does anyone knows what is the Latest version of HAMCOM program,and what
> are the new features it includes ?
> I have the Ver.2.1 and I built the Modem (actually the Comporator) and
> use it on RTTY but the performance was not very good ,I could only detect
> the Strong signals.On the other Hand the modem is working fine with
> the JVFAX program for SSTV (Great program !!!).
> Any Ideas about how to improve the RTTY reception with the HAMCOM ??

> Best 73's

> Samir ( OD5SK / KC5RYL )

> PACKET: [e-mail]
>         [e-mail]
>


> ... ░▒▓█ CQ CQ CQ DE OD5SK █▓░▒

> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (Connor^Macleod)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help BPQ & CHAT PROGRAM
Date: 20 Feb 1996 09:51:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4gc5ja$[e-mail]>

Hi All

Im trying to get CHAT4 working with my BPQ in windows.

How do you set up a callsign so as the node knows what to connect to?
I mean setting up a callsign in the chat program.

--
====================================================================
Alias :Connor^Macleod E-Mail [e-mail]
        Degree Student @ Staffs University UK

Life is what you make it....
===================================================================



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:29 1996
From: Miguel Angel Garcia <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Help BPQ & CHAT PROGRAM
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 13:33:15 +0100
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gc5ja$[e-mail]>
To: Connor^Macleod <[e-mail]>

Connor^Macleod wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> Im trying to get CHAT4 working with my BPQ in windows.
>
> How do you set up a callsign so as the node knows what to connect to?
> I mean setting up a callsign in the chat program.
>
> --
> ====================================================================
> Alias :Connor^Macleod E-Mail [e-mail]
>         Degree Student @ Staffs University UK
>
> Life is what you make it....
> ===================================================================


Hello:

I am not sure on what you want to do. But if you want that users may
connect to the chat server directly (using an own callsign for the
chat server) instead of connecting to the node and then issuing the
chat command, you must recompile the chat4.pas program, following
these steps:

1) Look for the Procedure setup.

2) In this procedure, locate the following line:
    regs.dl := 16;                  { Application number }

3) Change to
    regs.dl := 1;                   { Application number }

4) Compile again

Then, you must change in BPQCFG.TXT the following parameters:

1) BBSCALL=GB4CHAT       ; put here the callsign of the server

2) BBSALIAS=CHAT         ; put here the alias of the server

3) BBS=1

4) Run BPQCFG.EXE


Note that I haven't tested it, but I hope it works for you.

Best regards from Miguel Angel, EA1DOF.

--
___________________________________________________________
Miguel Angel Garcia Martin             Ericsson R&D
                                       Telemaco 5
                                       28027 Madrid
                                       Phone: [phone]
CCS Software Engineer                  Fax:   [phone]
____________________________________________________________

e-mail: [e-mail]
        [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:30 1996
From: [e-mail] (Steve Sampson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Help with BPQ under WIN96
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:40:58
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4grg09$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] () writes:

>Now, my problem is that I want to run it via ethernet..  My sequence
>of events are as follows

>1) Boot WIN95 machine
>2) Break out of BOOT and goto DOS
>3) Load LSL.com
>4) Load ce2ODI.exe - XIRCOM Credit card adaptor
>5) Goto BPQ directory and run odidrv 200

>I test this process by loading the switch program and it works great..
>Now the fun starts !!!

Well you're in the DOS mode, it should work.

When I see LSL being loaded, I have to ask why?  Have you tried the
Microsoft IPX/SPX protocol?  Why not bring up windows and then
enable the network parts?  Check for a Xircom driver there.  As old as
that is, there should be a driver.

My real answer would be to chuck BPQ and run IP...

Steve



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Help with old Dos 3.10
Date: 26 Feb 1996 14:02:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4gseht$[e-mail]>
References: <4gr0j2$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
Steve Sampson <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>I did a stupid thing and deleted my Command.com for Dos 3.1
>>from the root
>>directory and then shut the computer off.
>
>So boot up with a floppy and type undelete (if you have that).

3.1 did not support the "undelete" command. Even if you boot with
a 6.x floppy, I believe the FAT table does not "mirror" a previous
change.

>>Can anyone tell me how to do this or can anyone send me a copy
>>of
>>Command.com for Dos 3.10 so I can get started again?
>
>It's copyright.  Call IBM.

It is indeed copyrighted, but if you are a licensed user, you are allowed
to make a back up, and use it for yourself only.

>WHy not just buy DOS 6.22?

Because 6.22 is 6 meg...3.1 is less than 1. You can see why if you have
a 10 meg hard drive.     :)

Take care all.


--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:32 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: help: DGPS demodulator , MSK
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 06:13:48 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Les Dittert wrote:
>
> I am considering making a differential signal decoder for GPS.
> The US coast guard transmits a correction signal at about 300 Khz(Part delet
ed for brevity)
> Considering the slow speed , is there an easy MSK demod circuit around?
> Maybe using an AtoD converter and singal processing it ? After all , it's
> only 100 baud....I don't have an answer for you but I am also interested in
trying to
decode the DGPS signals.  If you receive any positive responses please
post them here.  I feel sure that a simple demodulator as used for
wefax or morse decoder made of a 741 opamp could be used and the
decoding of data done in software, but thats way beyond my ability.
Gene, WA4WBI


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:33 1996
From: [e-mail](Dan Walker )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Date: 21 Feb 1996 20:21:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4gfus2$[e-mail]>

Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet?

Seems like my MFJ-1270C hardly decodes any packet signals at all
on HF. Are most people using Pactor?

Just wondering if I should continue with it or plan on
switching to Pactor.

de KE6LBX




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:34 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Date: 22 Feb 1996 01:29:05 GMT
Message-ID: <4gggt1$[e-mail]>
References: <4gfus2$[e-mail]>

In article <4gfus2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet?

No.

>Just wondering if I should continue with it or plan on
>switching to Pactor.

Switch to Pactor or G-tor or both.
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Postal Address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA
email:            [e-mail]
KaWin Home Page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
KaWin FTP Site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:35 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Message-ID: <312c7882.57508142@cronkite>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <4gfus2$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:07:12 GMT

[e-mail](Dan Walker ) wrote:

>Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet?
>
no



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:36 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4gfus2$[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:31:06 GMT

In article <4gfus2$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Dan Walker
) writes:
>Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet?

I'd say generally no. Unless you're part of a traffic forwarding
system, packet offers very little of utility at HF, and even for
traffic forwarding, packet as currently done has some very serious
problems.

>Seems like my MFJ-1270C hardly decodes any packet signals at all
>on HF. Are most people using Pactor?

PACTOR is currently the most popular HF digital mode. It works
pretty well, though Clover II is much better. GTOR is up and
coming, offering some advantages over PACTOR, though seriously
lagging behind Clover II in performance. And PACTOR II is now
becoming available. It may be better than Clover II under certain
circumstances.

If you're going to setup for HF digital, get a DSP unit that
has a manufacturer offering strong firmware support, and who
has committed to supporting newer modes as they come along.
HF digital is in a state of flux, and any non-DSP hardware
you buy today is likely to be obsolete in a year or two.

I'm using the HAL P-38 card, which I believe is the most
cost effective DSP approach currently available for HF
digital. HAL is supposedly going to offer upgrades to the
P-38 to support PACTOR II, and is also rumored to be adding
GTOR support. Right now the card does RTTY (Baudot and ASCII),
PACTOR, AMTOR, and of course Clover II.

PacComm sells the German PACTOR II box, but it's $995. They
are supposed to come out with a less expensive US built version
*real soon now*. I've seen the prototype, but the step to production
may be a while yet. AEA claims in their ads that they will support
newer digital modes with their new DSP box, but so far they don't
support Clover II or GTOR, though they do support PACTOR. I haven't
seen any indication of a DSP box out of Kantronics yet. They're a
close mouthed bunch, though, and who knows what they may be working
on.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:37 1996
From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Date: 26 Feb 1996 19:01:29 GMT
Message-ID: <4gt029$[e-mail]>
References: <4gfus2$[e-mail]> <312c7882.57508142@cronkite>

Brian Ellsworth ([e-mail]) wrote:
> [e-mail](Dan Walker ) wrote:

> >Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet?
> >
> no

I have worked it only because I'm desperate to get the last
few states on FSK (RTTY/Packet/Amtor...), and I've been lucky
enough to connect to and get QSL's from a couple of unattended
stations. Other than that, it's a bust.  Entertainment value
near zero.


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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:39 1996
From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:33:40 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gfus2$[e-mail]>
To: Dan Walker <[e-mail]>

Heh, your experience is not at ALL unusual.  HF packet is so crowded it
is very difficult to decode many packets at all.  Some tips if you MUST
continue trying HF packet:
Set your GarbageMode on, so it will show incomplete packets.
Use only a good stable late model radio, the slightest drift will render
packets undecipherable.
It is much easier to QSO with someone on packet using the unproto mode,
i.e. you don't connect to the other station at all, just send the
sentence or line unconnected.  With your garbagemode enabled you can at
least carry on a semblance of a QSO with someone.  The "perfect packet
or reject-it-all" methodology of packet "connections" is OK only if you
are trying to send a program or perfect error-free copy and you can
setup the connection and walk away and do something useful while your
TNC fights hopelessly on, trying to get it through.  This works quite
well on VHF with relatively noise-free paths but is an almost useless
way of growing old on HF.
Use the less popular frequencies if possible, such as 28.160, 28.170,
28.180, etc... when the band is open good the lack of 20 meter QRM will
greatly improve the performance.
If you must stick to HF I recommend switching to RTTY or AMTOR, the
modes are much more usable with HF propagation.
|-------------------------------------------------------|
|Jim Devenport  WB5AOX                                  |
|All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed                    |
|My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers|
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert G Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:27:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4gtjq0$[e-mail]>
References: <4gfus2$[e-mail]> <312c7882.57508142@cronkite> <4gt029$[e-mail]>

In message <4gt029$[e-mail]>
        [e-mail] (Al Gerheim) writes:

> Brian Ellsworth ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > [e-mail](Dan Walker ) wrote:

> > >Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet?
> > >
> > no

> I have worked it only because I'm desperate to get the last
> few states on FSK (RTTY/Packet/Amtor...), and I've been lucky
> enough to connect to and get QSL's from a couple of unattended
> stations. Other than that, it's a bust.  Entertainment value
> near zero.

Agree up to a point.  Its like watching paint dry!
Don't expect lively point to point Qso's.
BUT
Its an achievement to hook up to Moscow or Belgium on Packet, out
through their nodes and explore.
I did it on 20m from Shetland, where I live, to Colchester in South
England, on VHF to LONNY on London, out via wormhole to New York and
had a look around. Took Hours!
Sad Really!

Bob
GM4CAQ



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Sherwin Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it?
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:48:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4goin8$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hello All...

I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet
program. The registration cost  US$79.
Please tell me what you think of the program,  that is if you use the
program.

thanks
sherwin



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Stan Huntting)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it?
Date: 26 Feb 1996 18:55:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4gsvme$[e-mail]>
References: <4goin8$[e-mail]> <4gr82a$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...

>[e-mail] (Jeff McLeman) writes:

>>>I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet
>>>program. The registration cost  US$79.
>>>Please tell me what you think of the program,  that is if you use the
>>>program.

>1.  It is not a host mode program.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, I try to keep my postings about KaWin extremely brief, but this
MISINFORMATION begs more than a simple correction. It suggests that some who
have evalualted KaWin might not have reviewed the principle features. So here
for all is a short summary:

All TNC communication modes.

VHF and HF packet radio. CW, Rtty, Ascii and Navtex. Amtor, Pactor, G-Tor,
Tor-standby and G-Tor Monitor.

Host mode interace.

Host mode means KaWin and your TNCs communicate computer to computer. Host mod
e
means full use of your dual-port TNCs. Simultaneous multiple TNCs, multiple
ports, multiple streams and multiple radios.

Native MS Windows program.

KaWin is a no compromise design for MS Windows in 486 and Pentium systems. Onl
y
a native Windows program can offer fully event-driven communications. Looks
like, feels like and talks to your other Windows applications. Separate send
and receive windows for each QSO, radio and TNC. Intuitive menus, full mouse
support and on-line help make KaWin is easy to learn. Windows accelerator keys

and shortcuts keys for operating speed. Easy and clean to install and remove -

leaves no residue.

Flexibility

Hundreds of configurable options for complete customization. Quick keys, Quick

connects, Brag files, CQ robot, Restartable binary file transfers, Ansi
graphics and much more.

And you can download and test the full working program directly from the web
page below.
--
Stan Huntting,    KF0IA
Postal Address:   4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd.,
                  Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA
email:            [e-mail]
KaWin Home Page:  http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/
KaWin FTP Site:   ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Scott Holland)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: JNOS lite ?
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:29:34 GMT
Message-ID: <4g899a$[e-mail]>
References: <4fqkjd$[e-mail]> <4frnkg$[e-mail]>


Go to the ftp site at ucsd.edu.  There you will find the latest
version of JNOS compiled for the 8088.  The file name is
"JNOS110M.EXE".  Make sure you also get the file "DOCS110M.ZIP".  This
file includes documentation for the updated version of JNOS.  I also
had a problem with ram usage.  It seems that JNOS version 110L and
earlier default to using EMS.  My 286 doesn't have EMS, but it does
have XMS.  Here's what I learned.  If you run this version from the
DOS command line as follows, it will use only conventional memory
(base 640k).

Try this:

jnos110L -m2

The -m2 forces it to use your base ram.  Here's a list of the -mn
commands:

-m0 forces it to use EMS (the default)
-m1 forces it to use XMS
-m2 forces it to use the 640k base ram
-m3 forces it to use the hard drive

The new version that I mentioned above, 110M, will do this
automatically.  It will look for EMS first, if none found it will try
XMS, if none found it will try base ram.

Good luck and I hope this helps,


Scott Holland - N2BZT

Internet:  [e-mail]
www:       http://www.exit109.com/~scotth
amprnet:   [e-mail] (44.65.40.64)
PBBS:      [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:45 1996
From: Bob Dashoff <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:36:31 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4fr670$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

I have had both the AEA PK-232 and the Kam.  I prfer the Kam as it is
state of the art, runs cooler and has the selectable switch cap
filtering.  It has worked flawlessly on all modes.  The only thing that I
wish it had is the ability to be upgraded to 9600 baud packet.  I sold my
232 after retrofiting it with about everything that T.A.P.R. has to offer
including a 9600 baud upgrade kit.  The DCD State machine is in the Kam
and not in the 232.  This lets you run with the squeltch open and
deciphers noise for data.  I saw a Kam+ in the swap area of this group
for $200.00.  Take care, Bob....  Sun evening 11:00pm


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:46 1996
From: Marinus Willemstijn <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KamPlus + Wefax??
Date: 21 Feb 1996 07:44:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4geigv$[e-mail]>

Has anyone tried this? I'd like to but which package
can I use and will it convert a 2m FM signal?

Marinus
ZS6MAW
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Karl Medcalf (WK5M))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kantronics new WWW site - product info, hints
Date: 24 Feb 1996 15:31:16 GMT
Message-ID: <4gnb04$[e-mail]>

Kantronics now has a WWW site with spec sheets on their products, hints on
operating, some articles of interest, etc.

It also provides mailto links for service related problems.

http://www.kantronics.com/

--
73, Karl                Internet: [e-mail]
                        Packet:   WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM
*****  The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not *****
  *****       necessarily reflect those of my employer!        *****



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:47 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wilson Small)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KPC-3 PBFORWD command?
Date: 24 Feb 1996 00:06:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4glkpu$[e-mail]>

hi all..

I noticed a command called PBFORWD when I hit the '?' on my Kantronics
KPC-3 TNC.... I can't find this command in my reference manual ....
can anybody tell me what this command is supposed to do?

thankx

wilson
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From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:48 1996
From: larry@  (Larry Schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for the SP software Package
Date: 22 Feb 1996 17:49:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4giaam$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Larry Schroeder)

Hello,
A friend of mine is looking for a software package called SP.  It is suppose
to allow you to have more than one QSO at a time.  If you have heard of it
and know where he can get it, let me know at the address below.
Thanks

Larry Schroeder
[e-mail]
KD4HSL


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for the SP software Package
Date: 22 Feb 1996 19:26:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4gj8jp$[e-mail]>
References: <4giaam$[e-mail]>

larry@  (Larry Schroeder) wrote:

>Hello,
>A friend of mine is looking for a software package called SP.  It is suppose
>to allow you to have more than one QSO at a time.  If you have heard of it
>and know where he can get it, let me know at the address below.
>Thanks

>Larry Schroeder
>[e-mail]
>KD4HSL

Try ftp.tapr.org in /tapr/software_lib/terminal/sp650.exe. This is the
last freeware version.  There is a version 9.5 available commercially.

Bob Nielsen, w6swe



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:50 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MAC>PK88 Pinnouts needed
Date: 22 Feb 1996 04:11:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4ggqdg$[e-mail]>

Can anyone supply me with the complete pinnouts for a MAC Classic to AEA PK88?

My PK88 manual shows DB9P connector at the MAC end but my Classic uses a Mdin
8 connector.
I have it working in the three wire configuration but would like to have the h
andshaking working as well

Tnx de Tim/VE3TZS


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ayler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: MAC>PK88 Pinnouts needed
Date: 25 Feb 1996 19:09:51 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ggqdg$[e-mail]>

In article <4ggqdg$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Can anyone supply me with the complete pinnouts for a MAC Classic to AEA PK8
8?
>
> My PK88 manual shows DB9P connector at the MAC end but my Classic uses a
Mdin 8 connector.
> I have it working in the three wire configuration but would like to have
the handshaking working as well
>
> Tnx de Tim/VE3TZS


Tim, just a Mac modem cable. Works just fine.

MLA

--
Michael L. Ayler
KC5QPZ


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:52 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Wilcox)
Subject: MFJ-1276 & PACTOR
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Wilcox)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:51:05 GMT


Help


        I just got a new MFJ-1276 TNC and am trying to get it to do
PACTOR. I have it hooked up OK because I can do regular HF packet but
when I type PACTOR at the cmd: prompt I get nothing. The TNC will echo
everything you type but it never gives the p_cmd: prompt. The only way
to continue is to power off and back on. What gives?


tnx es 73's Gary




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: MFJ-43 Real Time Clock. How does it work?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:03:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gkhep$[e-mail]>

Hi,

        I notice that MFJ advertises a real time clock (RTC) unit for
MFJ and other TNC-2 compatible modems. Does anyone know how this works?
Is this in fact just a Dallas DS-1216? Does this mean that TAPR and MFJ
have already included code to read these devices? Or is there some other
method or code in there that we do not already know of? If anyone has
any clue as to how this thing works I would greatly appreciate it. I am
trying to build an RTC for my MFJ but I would like to use it with the
WA8DED host mode and do not know if the MFJ unit will actually work with
the WA8DED firmware. Thanks in advance.

73 de 9V1ZV Daniel

 Daniel Wee | [e-mail]
 9V1ZV      | [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:54 1996
From: [e-mail] (Tom Bruhns)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.ham-radio,alt.support.turner-syndrom,alt.radio.digital
Subject: Re: Need : IF/RF Detectors
Date: 21 Feb 1996 16:33:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4gfhg2$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

: Hi there, I am looking for IF/RF detectors/detector diodes for micropower
: measurements (100 MHz - 2 GHz). Has anybody had any good or bad experiences
: whith this products ? Has anybody know manufactures which produce such parts
.

My employer, and I'm sure others, make detector diodes intended for use at
zero bias.  There is a pretty good article about them in the December,
1995, "Hewlett Packard Journal."  If you would be happy with an SOT-23
package, the HSMS-2850 might be worth looking at.  At low power levels, the
output into the proper load is nearly linear in voltage versus input power;
that diode has about 100mV/uW sensitivity in the frequency range you are
interested in.  You should be able to measure down to nanowatt levels with
homebrew stuff; that's a fraction of a millivolt of RF.

--
Cheers,
Tom
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:55 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.ham-radio,alt.support.turner-syndrom,alt.radio.digital
Subject: Need : IF/RF Detectors
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:32:09 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


Hi there, I am looking for IF/RF detectors/detector diodes for micropower
measurements (100 MHz - 2 GHz). Has anybody had any good or bad experiences
whith this products ? Has anybody know manufactures which produce such parts.
Thanx in advance for any help.
                                        N. Alexander

e-mail: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:56 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need W-95 SSTV S/W for Viewport VGA adapter
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 03:47:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4gm25j$[e-mail]>


Has anyone written any software for the A&A Engineering ViewPort VGA
Color SSTV System adapter?
I'm still using to original sofware that came with the unit several
years ago and it run under DOS only..
Would appreciate a web-site if anything is available for downloading..
Thanks
Dennis W5XO





From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Need WY, UT, VT, DE on RTTY
Date: 26 Feb 1996 15:41:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4gskbu$[e-mail]>

If you can help, please reply by email.


--
***********************************************************************
Dr. Al Gerheim, N4QN  | I cried because I had  | Sonalysts Inc. POB 280
[e-mail] | no shoes till I met a  | 215 Parkway North
1 [phone] X218 | man who had no class.  | Waterford CT 06385
**********************************************************************


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Orrin Winton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: open forum for packet users
Date: 22 Feb 1996 00:17:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4ggcmr$[e-mail]>

This is to announce the creation of an open forum for packet network
users  who feel they have been poorly treated by sysops.

Details can be found on my Web page:

http://www.redshift.com/~orrin

Click on the link for "The Sysop Sundrome"  that's Syndrome sorry.
Then at the end of that section there's a link to http://www.redshift.com/~orr
in/
ki6eh.html.

You may submit your horror stories to me at [e-mail], and they will
appear as a Web page.  Specify if you want to sign your story or be anonymous.
Name names and callsigns, if you feel you can.

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:00:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Karl Medcalf (WK5M))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Packet connections for Radio Shack HTX-202
Date: 26 Feb 1996 13:31:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4gsco6$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>I am interested in connecting my Radio Shack HTX-202 handheld radio to a
>Kantronics Data Engine for packet communication.  The documentation for
>the data engine shows pinouts for the Tx, Rx, and PTT (as well as grounds,
etc)
>My Radio Shack documentation says nothing about how to hook these up to the
>mic and speaker connections.  I don't even know if the phono plugs are
>2-conductor or 3-conductor.  I want to rig up a cable to connect the radio to
>the data engine, but I can't find the pinouts.
>I brought the radio to Radio Shack, but they had no idea.  They even tried
>to sell my a mic/speaker mobile handset (as if I needed it).
>Has anyone ever connected a Radio Shack HTX-202 to a packet TNC?  If so, what

>are the pinouts?
>
>
>         ____________________________________________________________________
>        /        Vince Socci           /  Lockheed Martin Control Systems
/|
>       /==============================/====================================/
/
>      / 600 Main Street              /   Systems Engineer                 / /
>     / Johnson City, New York       /   Advanced Controls Engineering    / /
>    /              13790-1888      / Email:  [e-mail]    / /
>   /                              / Callsign:   KB2UXU                 / /
>  /  Tel [phone]          / Marcall Tel: 8*255-2828            / /
> /  Fax [phone]          / Marcall Fax: 8*255-2213            / /
>/______________________________/____________________________________/ /
>|_____________________________/\____________________________________|/

Vince.

You can find the wiring diagrams for the HTX-202 at:

http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire/

They HTX-202 is the same wiring as the Yaesu HT shown in your Kantronics TNC
manual.

--
73, Karl                Internet: [e-mail]
                        Packet:   WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM
*****  The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not *****
  *****       necessarily reflect those of my employer!        *****



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:00 1996
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 21:51:47 EST
From: me <[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Packet Digipeaters: What&How

  I am looking at putting up a digipeater to run at least 9600buad
  packet.  I want to find out what equipment will be needed from the
  radio to the software.  If any one has information/suggestions on
  equipment or where to look to get information I would apreciate
  hearing from you.  Please send responses to my E-mail account.


  Thanks,
  Aaron KA1VOA
  Orono Maine


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Subject: Re: Packet Digipeaters: What&How
Message-ID: <312c7699.57019942@cronkite>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:06:28 GMT

me <[e-mail]> wrote:

>  I am looking at putting up a digipeater to run at least 9600buad
>  packet.  I want to find out what equipment will be needed from the
>  radio to the software.  If any one has information/suggestions on
>  equipment or where to look to get information I would apreciate
>  hearing from you.  Please send responses to my E-mail account.
>
>
i hate to remind everyone, but digipeaters really don't work
worth a hoot. The digipeat function was an compromising kludge
from the start. It would have been better if it had never been
conceived of.   Since you're in Maine, i'll bet you can find a
repeater pair on 440 or MAYbe even two-meter-CB pair. Grab one of
those and put up a full duplex packet repeater. Packet users
should stop settling for garbage performance.

-be


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:02 1996
From: Ian Brothwell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PACTOR for the financially challenged
Date: 21 Feb 1996 11:40:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4gf0bl$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

BMKMULTY might be suitable for you - it offers Pactor.
Have a look at
http://cs.nott.ac.uk/~ibx/BARTG

I believe that there is a USA outlet for BMKMULTY but his may not be mentioned
in the Web pages. Email G4BMK for details (you'll find his email addres at the
Web site).

73, Ian G4EAN (secretary of BARTG).



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Marv Uphaus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PACTOR for the financially challenged
Date: 23 Feb 1996 06:12:33 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On 21 Feb 1996 11:40:37 GMT Ian Brothwell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I believe that there is a USA outlet for BMKMULTY but his may not be mentione
d
>in the Web pages.

BMK-MULTY is available through Schnedler Systems in Asheville, NC...

SPHERETON / Schnedler Systems
25 Eastwood Road
P.O.Box 5964
Ashville, NC  28813
704 274-4646

Marv, K4BVG, a long time, satisfied BMK-MULTY user...

-----------------------------------------------------------
Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken.
                                  --Bertrand Russell


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:04 1996
From: [e-mail] (Wm Kresl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PMP & EZPacket Software
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 08:09:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4gp555$[e-mail]>
References: <middleto-1402960923250001@mac_dm2.mdd.comm.mot.com>

[e-mail] (Don Middleton) wrote:

>I am looking for a newer version of the shareware package Poor Man's
>Packet (PMP) beyond v1.1 published in 1991.

>Alternatively, I have read on the WWW that there is a simila software
>package called EZPacket which also works with PMP class modems.

>If anyone has paths on the net where to obtain copies, please let me know.
>Alternatively, I can receive attachments at my address
>[e-mail] if you have something kicking around in your
>personal file system.

>73 and Thanks,
>Don Middleton   VE7IMD

Hi Don,

There is NO newer version of the PMP software then the version you
have (1.1) to my knowlege. The EZpaket software is at version 1.7
(me thinks) and will work with both the PMP and Baycom modem.
However, I also believe that BAYCOM modems  may require a certain
mod to add the CARRIER DETECT out of your modem chip back to
the interface, whether your using the COM or LPT ports. The PMP
modems provided this CD signal to the parallel port interface. The
BAYCOM modem doesn't use it, they used a software DCD approach.
Therefore, you must ADD (via transistors or an inverter chip) the
wiring to use the BAYCOM modem with the PMP/EZPACKET
software.

The EZPACKET software was written by a high school student
at the time, FRANK DOMINA-N9MXT,  for a school class. We
communicated for a short period of time when he released his
program to the world, and I found some bugs in it. I am not sure
if his stuff can be found on the WEB but any ham BBS would have
it (e.g.DIGITAL HAMSHACK in GERMANTOWN, WI). It is OK
software for ease of use.

However, I would suggest you simply modify your present PMP
parallel port modem to work on your SERIAL PORT by adding ]
a few more components, and thus convert it into a BAYCOM unit!
You will have a LOT more software avenues to choose from that
way, The FBB and NPF programs give you full forwarding node/BBS
and of course JNOS can be done easily with the BAYCOM's.

I use to put out (on packet) the PMP NEWSLETTER (from 1991 thru
1995) and we discussed a lot of stuff along these lines. I am looking
for a WWW home for this old stuff as well as a place to upload the
old software I have received for anybody that wants it. If you know of
a good home for these old newsletters, let me know.

If you really need EZPACKET software, I can mail it to you as ZIP
attachment. Take care and 73's........

Wm Kresl
WB9BBC

--
Wm Kresl
WB9BBC @KD9JK.WI.USA.NOAM
Delavan, WI
--



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:06 1996
From: Per Stangeland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Radio Database Program LW, MW, SW coverage for YOU.....
Date: 22 Feb 1996 19:50:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4gihej$[e-mail]>
References: <4gduns$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Charles Bolland <[e-mail]> wrote:
>FRIENDS,
>
>If you would like a free copy of a radio database program that covers
>longwave, mediumwave, and shortwave with at least 4,000 of records, send
>your NAME, POSTAL ADDRESS, and EMAIL address to chuck@flinet, and I will
>return the program to you via EMAIL.
>
>The program is not up to date!  It is a program used during 1994 and
>hasn't be updated since.  However, many of the records are still current
>for stations that do not change every quarter.
>
>The program is good until June 6, 1996.  After that it will not function.
>
>Hope to hear from you and don't forget your Postal Address for
>registration and future information via mail..
>
>All addresses will be kept confidential!
>
>Chuck
>
>[e-mail]
>
>
My address is:
Per Stangeland
Luftfartsverket
Luftveien 16
N-3440 Royken
Norway.

Best Regards Per



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Evan L. Schemm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Ramsey Packet Modem
Date: 23 Feb 1996 21:43:50 -0500
Message-ID: <4glu16$[e-mail]>

I recently dug out my old Ramsey Packet Modem to use as a second TNC.
It works fine with the BAYCOM software that came with it, but I want
to use it for something else (and possibly not on a PC).

Does anyone know of any source code for the BAYCOM program, or anything
similar?  I tried hooking it up and letting a generic terminal program
listen, but nothing came through.  I suspect that it needs something
more.

Any help would be appreciated.

Schemm
N8JIS


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:09 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Regency HR312 on Packet?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail]
Date: 19 Feb 96 15:20:47 EST
Distribution: world

Has anyone used a Regency HR312 on Packet? Were there any modifications needed
?
Please respond by E-mail.
Thanks
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:10 1996
From: Leon Joosse <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: SLIP over ethernet
Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:18:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4gklre$[e-mail]>

Can I make a sliplink between my two CHLnet systems?
I'm using ethernetcars in both 286-systems.

At this time I can only use the tcp/ip functions.


73 Leon
Email:[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Barry McLarnon VE3JF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TCM3105 Source?
Date: 22 Feb 1996 02:36:42 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Now that TI has discontinued the TCM3105 modem chip, it seems to have quickly
disappeared from the usual distribution channels (Future, Arrow, JDR,
etc...).  Anybody know of a source that still has stock of these things?

We're so far behind the cutting edge, we're now using obsolete modem
devices... sigh.

Barry

--
Barry McLarnon  VE3JF/VA3TCP
Ottawa Amateur Radio Club Packet Working Group
Email: [e-mail]  or [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:11 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: TCM3105 Source?
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:43:44 GMT

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Barry McLar
non VE3JF) writes:

>Now that TI has discontinued the TCM3105 modem chip, it seems to have quickly
>disappeared from the usual distribution channels (Future, Arrow, JDR,
>etc...).  Anybody know of a source that still has stock of these things?

>We're so far behind the cutting edge, we're now using obsolete modem
>devices... sigh.

When you can't get the chips, the alternatives are:

- use lower-integration components.  do the 2206/2211 still exist?
- use another modem standard, presumably more spectrum-efficient

I think the demise of the 3105 is a good reason to make your local users
move to something faster...

Rob
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rob Janssen         [e-mail] | BBS: [phone] (2300-0730 local) |
| AMPRnet:       [e-mail] | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:12 1996
From: Jim Irving
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Test : please dont read
Date: 26 Feb 1996 21:33:02 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gt8ue$[e-mail]>




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:13 1996
From: Jim Irving
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Test: please do not read
Date: 26 Feb 1996 20:44:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gt63l$[e-mail]>




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:14 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Robert Donnell - KD7NM)
Subject: Re: using Macs to switch stuff on/off?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4fu8fp$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 02:01:18 GMT

[e-mail] (Scott Forbes) wrote:

>In article <4fu8fp$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Sven
>Koenig) wrote:

>> I would like to use my Mac to switch a couple of low-voltage devices
>> on and off. Are there any "cards" (Mac specific ones or, more likely,
>> ones with a standard serial interface) that do just that?
>>
>> Also, where to look for AD/DA converters and relay cards?
>>
>> Every hint is appreciated...
>> Thanks!
>> Sven

>Another possibility is the CP-290 X10 interface. It connects between a Mac
>serial port and the power line to control up to 8 X-10 modules, including
>relay modules. The software it comes with is pretty dated, but I saw that
>is still being sold by:

Actually the CP-290 can control all possible X-10 device addresses,
and be configured as a timer.  The 8-unit limitation is only for the
manual keypad on the unit.  It's timer capability is pretty flexible
too.  Yep, I have one here.

Good luck

Bob




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:15 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Gallup)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: using NOS for InterNet email ?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 02:45:31 GMT
Message-ID: <4ggl9b$[e-mail]>


   I have a dial up PPP Internet account.  I had been wondering if there was
any DOS programs which could take the place of my Winsock/dialer and mail
programs which run under windows.  I just realized that NOS ( I use GRI NOS at

home) might likely do.

   Can someone tell me if I am correct, and how would I go about configuring
NOS (in general terms should do) to accomplish this.  I am somewhat NOS
literate my no guru in it.  I do have the NOSview book.  Thanks.

   Ed   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:16 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Gallup)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: using NOS for InterNet email ?
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 02:46:35 GMT
Message-ID: <4gglbb$[e-mail]>


   I have a dial up PPP Internet account.  I had been wondering if there was
any DOS programs which could take the place of my Winsock/dialer and mail
programs which run under windows.  I just realized that NOS ( I use GRI NOS at

home) might likely do.

   Can someone tell me if I am correct, and how would I go about configuring
NOS (in general terms should do) to accomplish this.  I am somewhat NOS
literate but no guru at it.  I do have the NOSview book.  Thanks.

   Ed   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: What's PGP??
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 18:30:49 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4edaue$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jyri
Hamalainen) wrote:

> Use the European version when you find it. Speculation has it that the
> US version has been doctored. Try a web search for PGP or RSA. If all
> fails mail the sci.crypt news group. If that fails mail me and I'll ftp
> you a copy with the windows frontend. I use it all the time for email.

Based on the message-ids, I presume the original poster resides in the US,
which means using the Euorpean version would cause a violation of
RSA/PKP's patents, whereas the US version doesn't, since it uses RSA's kit
to do the public key crypto. The European version is fine for outside the
US (and Canada?) because RSA/PKP didn't patent it outside the US.

You can get source code if you want it for the US version. People keep
speculating that it's been doctored, and no one shows where. I would write
it off as urban legend.

PGP is available from http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp/

Bob


From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:18 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2
Date: 21 Feb 1996 13:31:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4gfve5$[e-mail]>
References: <4fmdil$[e-mail]> <4fqgag$[e-mail]>

Thomas M Allen <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) wrote:
>>      Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for
>>the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should
>>have ie. NORD><LINK enhancements etc.)? I don't know anything
>>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere
>>although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version.

>WA8DED's host mode firmware is available on the TAPR ftp site. The
>"latest" is at least three years old, however.

>--------------------------------------
>Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA

Actually it is available in a programmed eprom from TAPR but not from
the ftp site.  It is available from ftp.ucsd.edu in
/hamradio/packet/wa8ded.






From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dean R. Madsen KE0WO)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WIN-FBB..FTP site ??
Date: 23 Feb 96 17:50:23 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gj6br$[e-mail]>

In <4gj6br$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:

>Hello ALL

>I have heard lots about win-fbb and it's release.  A number of people

Do keep in mind that it is a beta evaluation release,  which means the
code may still have bugs and comes with few instructions.

>have got it .  A lot more of us would like to get a copy if it were
>posted onto an FTP site....

It will be put on ftp.funet.fi and other sites.  It may be that the
evaluation version is not ready yet.  Some instructions as to what
directories the various run time libraries and .DLL's should be placed
will need to be written as well as how to report bugs when you find
them.

73,
Dean - KE0WO

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Dean R Madsen, KE0WO                        Computer Science Major        +
+ Internet: [e-mail]               Iowa State Univeristy         +
+             [e-mail]                  Ames, Iowa                 +
+ AX25: KE0WO @ KE0WO.#WIA.IA.USA.NA     FBB Beta tester       Cellist      +
+            Secretary for the Tristate Amateur Packet Association          +
+            Treasurer for the Cyclone Amateur Radio Club                   +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++










From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:20 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WIN-FBB..FTP site ??
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 02:46:22 GMT
Message-ID: <4gj6br$[e-mail]>

Hello ALL

I have heard lots about win-fbb and it's release.  A number of people
have got it .  A lot more of us would like to get a copy if it were
posted onto an FTP site....

Can anybody help ??????



From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Paul Young)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: WINPACK 5.40 Dis site UK
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 01:50:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4gj7gs$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hi all,
          as soon as  Roger Barker updates WinPack the new version
gets uploaded to "The Cellular BBS" [phone] (3 lines all V.34)
you can also leave messages for roger on the BBS

the latest version is 5.40 uploaded by roger 07/02/96
all Winpack files are in file section 190
only roger can upload into this section so its allways 100%


Cheers
Paul....




From [e-mail] Tue Feb 27 20:01:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (James M. Atkinson, Communications Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Wiretapping and Telephone Bugging Web Page tscm.com
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:34:56 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Keywords: Counterintelligence Debugging Surveillance Counter-Terrorism

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From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:21 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel M Drucker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Wanted MFJ 1278 <---> Alinco DJ-F1T cable
Date: 23 Feb 1996 11:39:18 -0500
Message-ID: <4gkqjm$[e-mail]>


Wanted:

MFJ 1278 to Alinco DJ-F1T cable.


--

           [ Daniel Drucker / [e-mail] / N2SXX ]


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Compiling WA8DED/NORDLINK The Firmware
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:06:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gkhl8$[e-mail]>

Hi,

        I have managed to get some sources for The Firmware but do not
know what compiler/assembler/linker I should use to compile this. I am
trying to recompile a version of The Firmware to include support for the
Dallas DS-1216 real time clock or some other real time clock. I would
appreciate if anyone could furnish the information I need to compile my
own version of The Firmware. From what I can make out of the makefile,
they appear to be using a C compiler called QC or Q/C-Compiler and XAS
as the assembler for the Z-80 code, and XLNK for the linker. Thanks.

73 de 9V1ZV Daniel

 Daniel Wee | [e-mail]
 9V1ZV      | [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:23 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Where can I find TheFirmware TF26?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:09:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gkhq5$[e-mail]>

Hi,

        I have now got TheFirmware TF27B and found that the MHEARD feature
has been disabled. Since I want this feature, I am now in search of the last
TF version with the MHEARD enabled. I think this should be TF26 but I cannot
seem to find this anywhere. If anyone has a binary image of this (TF26 or
its revisions a,b,c?) or knows where I can get it, I would really appreciate
it. Furthermore, if the source code is available all the better. Thanks in
advance.

73 de 9V1ZV Daniel

 Daniel Wee | [e-mail]
 9V1ZV      | [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:25 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus)
Subject: Re: Looking for the SP software Package
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4giaam$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:57:59 GMT

larry@  (Larry Schroeder) writes:

>Hello,
>A friend of mine is looking for a software package called SP.  It is suppose
>to allow you to have more than one QSO at a time.  If you have heard of it
>and know where he can get it, let me know at the address below.
>Thanks

>Larry Schroeder
>[e-mail]
>KD4HSL

SP Version 9 was developed by:
ESKAY - Siegmund F. Kluger Hard- and Software
Richard-Strauss-Str 19
D-81677 Munich
[phone] or [phone]

By the way, version 6 and earlier is available as shareware. Send me e-mail
for more information.

73 es GM from jeff

--
 Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA  |  "It is difficult to imagine our
Internet: [e-mail]       |  universe run by a single omni-
 US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749   |  potent god. I see it more as a
   Phone: [phone]               |  badly run corporation."



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:26 1996
From: [e-mail] (Rich Mulvey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: data radio information please!
Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:25:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4gkma0$[e-mail]>
References: <4ge2ac$[e-mail]> <4gfooq$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:34:41 GMT, Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4gfooq$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>
>>   You're limited to 300baud on the HF bands.
>
>10 meters is HF, and 1200 baud is allowed there. I know, big whoop.
>With the sunspots as they are, 10 meters might as well be VHF. :-)
>

   Good point - since I got my license near the bottom of the current
sunspot cycle, sometimes I forget that there are bands above 17M.  ;-)





From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:27 1996
From: Bill Crocker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AEA Controllers, what's best?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:33:30 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I'm considering buying an AEA Multi-Mode controller.  The two I've narrowed it
 down to
are the PK-900 and the PK-232MBX.  I've read the specs and I don't see a real
big
advantage in the PK-900 for the extra money.  Also, it AEA's software the best
, or
should I look at others?

AEA is also bring out a DSP (Digital Signal Processing) version of the PK-232.
..considering
I have a Kenwood TS-870S with DSP, would this new model be worth waiting for?

Thanks, Bill Crocker


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:27 1996
From: [e-mail] (ALUBATHSA2)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Shuttle FREQ...
Date: 23 Feb 1996 17:44:01 -0500
Message-ID: <4glfvh$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (ALUBATHSA2)

Hello Everyone,

     WOuld any1 have a current list of ShuttleFREQS lying around the
shack, seem to have lost my list.... Thanx in ADVANCE...

73's

JEFF


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:28 1996
From: [e-mail] (CHRIS K2OG)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Operating a TNC using the Kenwood 13 pin DIN plug
Date: 23 Feb 1996 20:31:27 -0500
Message-ID: <4glppf$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (CHRIS K2OG)

Has anyone out there been successful in using the 13 pin DIN plug on
either the Kenwood 440S or 940S?  I am using the mike connections but
would like to be able to run my radio from the back connection.  Would
appreciate any info you may have.   Sgd. Chris  K2OG


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:30 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: alt.radio.college,alt.radio.uk.talk-radio,alt.rave,alt.revolution.counter,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.psychedelic,rec.music.artists.queensryche,rec.music.progressive,rec.music.reggae,rec.music.tori-amos,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: A new band on the Web, FIST-The Band
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:03:45 GMT
Message-ID: <4glh7b$[e-mail]>
References: <4fc0q3$[e-mail]> <4ggppf$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (DOG2000X) wrote:

>I was wondering if you were aware of a band (very large at the time) from
>the early 80's called FIST.  I believe they were from Germany or Sweden.
>They put out at least two fairly good selling metal albums, "Hot Spikes"
>and "Thunder In Rock."  "Thunder In Rock" was one of the coolest metal
>albums ever produced.  It was released, I believe, in late 1981 and many
>of my friends purchased the same album.

>That FIST toured with bands such as KROKUS in what was the original
>"Monsters of Rock" in late '81 and early '82.

>I am still a great fan of the original FIST and wondered if any of your
>members were remaining members from that band or if you named your band in
>dedication to those great metal warriors from the past?

I'll politely ask how such a subject could be related to
conter-revolution?

No animosity (but a lot of questions!!!)

Louis-M. Guilbault



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:31 1996
From: [e-mail] (Howard Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: FBB & MFJ1278
Date: 24 Feb 1996 00:20:44 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gblvn$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:23:47 GMT, [e-mail] <p.illmayer@sno.m
ts.dec.com> wrote:
 : Hello ALL
 :
 : I am running an FBB system v515c, bpq4.06 and a single mfj1278 in kiss
 : mode.
 :
 : Problem is that the TNC goes BESERK every two days and totally screws
 : up !!.  It looses its baud rate and is very difficult to reset..
 :
 : Does ANYONE have any ideas ????
 :

Well, it would have been slightly helpful while you were entering
version #s if you'd not stopped short of revealing the version # or
better yet, the date of the EPROM image.

--
Howard Goldstein              <[e-mail]>     http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx
/



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:32 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 9600 radio recomendations? (was Re: data radio information please!)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
References: <4ge2ac$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4gipg3$[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:04:19 GMT

In article <4gipg3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>OK, since the majority of the amateur type accepted radios don't do
>very well at 9600, can someone recommend a commercial type accepted
>radio that is easy to modify, cheap, and has good performance at
>9600?  I already know that the mitreks and maxar 80s work at 9600,
>but how easy are they to modify?

*No* amateur radios are Type Accepted. Now Mitreks and Maxars, as
well as Micors, can be modified to *transmit* 9600 satisfactorily
since they are crystal controlled direct FM. However, none of them
have wide enough receive filters to give good BER performance. In
fact this is a general rule with commercial Type Accepted radios,
almost all of them have IF filtering that is too tight for 9600
baud. They weren't designed for that service, and narrow filters
help in voice use against adjacent channel interference. But
the narrow filters are phase non-linear in the bandpass of a
9600 baud signal, and that greatly increases BER, IE the eye
pattern closes down due to phase non-linearity in the filters.

At least the Maxar uses a standard 10.7 MHz IF and the ceramic filter
can easily be replaced with a wider one from Murata. The Micor uses a
non-standard IF and I expect that getting wider replacement filters for
it would be difficult (I know of no source). Unfortunately, the Maxar
is poorly shielded, and suffers greatly at a high RF site, though it's
typically Ok at a user location. However, none of these radios have
particularly good TR turnaround times (which is important to reduce
latency at 9600 baud). The Maxar is diode switched, but it powers down
the receiver strip during transmit, and receiver recovery time is long.
That's ugly for 9600 baud performance. The modifications to get rapid
receiver recovery are *not* trivial. At least with a Micor you can
wire it so the receiver strip is always hot (one of the things that
makes Micors desirable for repeater conversion).

>I'm looking for a radio that will work well at around 445Mhz and with
>at least 10W of power (I'd use the TEKK, but my signal is just a little
>too weak to get into the repeater properly).  Being a hidden transmitter
>isn't a problem -- I'll be using a 9600 repeater.

The Kantronics D4-10 would seem to fill the bill. It is 10 watts, and
it is designed to be a 9600 baud data radio, so it has wide enough
filters for good BER performance. (Note, in the commercial realm, Boeing
contracted with RCA to have a bunch of TAC-700s modified for data use
(wider filters etc). If you can find one of those (Alanet uses a bunch
of them), it will also work, but the old RCAs tended to be deaf as posts,
so unless you can live with needing 2 uV for 12 db SINAD, a preamp is
almost a must. Repair parts are a bear to find too.)

Since a 10 watt radio is only 7 db stronger than a 2 watt radio, a
beam would seem the logical way to increase signal strength for a
user station with a TEKK in a MAN using a digital repeater. A 7 db
gain beam at 70 cm is rather small (and helps on receive too). The
TEKK is small too, and could be mast mounted at the antenna to reduce
feedline loss. I use the TEKK followed by a surplus 50 watt Motorola
brick amplifier intended to be used with one of their HTs in a car.
It switches fast enough to not add any significant latency. I expect
some amateur bricks would serve as well, but I already had the Moto
brick. This is for a simplex MAN where hidden terminals are a concern,
so I'm forced to use an omni antenna.

Summary: you can modify most crystal controlled commercial gear to
*transmit* 9600 baud fairly easily (though GEs require greater mods
due to being PM, IE you have to introduce the modulation into the
Channel Guard port and modify the Icom to get enough deviation), but
most of that gear won't *receive* 9600 baud very well due to too tight
IF filtering in their receivers. In other words, one of the things that
makes them work well in commercial voice service is the thing that hurts
them most in data service.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | Due to provider problems
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | with previous uucp address
es
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | Email to [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:33 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gearloos)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KPC-9612 won't send signal
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:34:00
Message-ID: <4gpa9d$[e-mail]>
References: <4flrno$[e-mail]>

Try checking the wiring on the tnc-to-radio mike plug(at the radio)
take off the cover of the 8 pin connector and see if any wires have
worked themselves loose! I have had this happen to me two times in
about a year.
Also check your drive level out from your radio etc...
73...GEAR.




From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:34 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best?
Date: 25 Feb 1996 08:17:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4gp5tu$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4gmcro$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, Bill Crocker <[e-mail]> writes:
>Scott:
>
>Thanks Scott!  Your opinion is the majority by far!  I think I'll take your a
dvice and
>get the PK-232MBX.
>
>You didn't mention what software you prefered...?
>
>Thanks again, Bill Crocker

The software choice also depends on what operating system you are going
to use!  If you are going to multi-task and are using OS/2, you might
note that the Free ware THS-OS/2 from Peter works very well on the
PK232 and also the PK900 if you don't let it attempt to re-init the unit
on call up.


AEA's code does NOT work very well in OS/2 VDM sessions when used with
more than one comm session on the box at the same time.  It works better,
at least it did for me, in DesqView, than it does under OS/2.


I was told that one of the commercial TNC programs for the AEA line, other
than their code also works well in OS/2 VDM sessions.  Haven't had time
to buy it and try it yet.

I use the PK900 and am very pleased with it.  I also have the PK96 and
a PCB88 in other locations and all of them work well for what they were
installed to do.

Mike W5WQN as a guest at leviathan.tamu.edu


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:35 1996
From: Eddie Caffray <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it?
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:42:15 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4goin8$[e-mail]>

Sherwin Lim wrote:
>
> Hello All...
>
> I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet
> program. The registration cost  US$79.
> Please tell me what you think of the program,  that is if you use the
> program.
>
> thanks
> sherwin

I used it for about 2 days. It was a good program, but it was to hard to evalu
ate with the
limited use the programmer gives you. I was thinking of getting a reg code for
 it till I saw the
reg fee! I thought it would be around 30$ tops, but I saw it was 79$, then rem
oved it from my
system.

Eddie
N2XDS


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:36 1996
From: Bill Crocker <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best?
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:50:32 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4gmcro$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4gp5tu$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Mike:

I've been thinking seriously about AEA's PK-900, but most everyone else says t
he
PK-232 is a more compatible way to go.  Could you please give me some Pro's &
Con's?

Thanks, Bill Crocker


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:37 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (William Burns)
Subject: info on Tandy 600 laptop
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Summary: looking for info
Keywords: info, Tandy 600
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:56:05 GMT

I have a Tandy 600 sort of laptop computer and would like to get it working.
Does anyone have info on such a machine. Thanks Bill [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dustin Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Jnos under Desqview
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:30:20 GMT
Message-ID: <4gqkc2$[e-mail]>

Hi I'm looking for the executable of a version of JNOS that will run
under Desqview. This is of course in the hopes of creating a more
perfect union between Desqview, G8BPQ, and W0RLI bbs software so
if it had the BPQ hooks that would be all the better...

Dustin Moore [e-mail] http://www.teleport.com/~moore



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:39 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dustin Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Jnos under Desqview
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:33:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4gqkhu$[e-mail]>

Hi I'm looking for the executable of a version of JNOS that will run
under Desqview. This is of course in the hopes of creating a more
perfect union between Desqview, G8BPQ, and W0RLI bbs software so
if it had the BPQ hooks that would be all the better...

Dustin Moore [e-mail] http://www.teleport.com/~moore



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dustin Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Jnos under Desqview
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:35:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4gqkkt$[e-mail]>

Hi I'm looking for the executable of a version of JNOS that will run
under Desqview. This is of course in the hopes of creating a more
perfect union between Desqview, G8BPQ, and W0RLI bbs software so
if it had the BPQ hooks that would be all the better...

Dustin Moore [e-mail] http://www.teleport.com/~moore



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Dave Ingram)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: TCM3105 Source?
Date: 25 Feb 1996 22:18:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4gqn73$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Rob Janssen ([e-mail]) wrote:
> When you can't get the chips, the alternatives are:

> - use lower-integration components.  do the 2206/2211 still exist?

The XR-2206 and XR-2211 are still available in Christchurch, New
Zealand, so they should be available anywhere!  For those in NZ,
South Island Component Centre on St Asaph St.  still stocks the
parts.


Dave.
--
Dave Ingram   -- Dare to be different - OS/2 Warp Connect --
Masters Student, Power Electronics Research
Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering
University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:42 1996
From: [e-mail] (Robert G Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Siskin connections database?
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:27:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4gqrc4$[e-mail]>

Having seen the advert in RADCOM that SISKINS have a database for
TNC-RIG connections, I logged on to their WWW page but cannot find
said database!

Anyone had any better luck?

Am I missing something or wot!

Bob
GM4CAQ

PS I need the connections for the Thor 2 port PC TNC card if anyone
knows it.  Also what interface for operating the PTT line?



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:43 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: WIN-FBB..FTP site ??
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:04:50 GMT
Message-ID: <4gqq0o$[e-mail]>
References: <4gj6br$[e-mail]> <4gmfte$[e-mail]>

I appreciate that it may not be ready to release but we are ALL being
swamped with pre-release information..  So the expectation has been
set and we'd like to get a copy....

I saw the info in ftp.funet.fi again release notes.  Lets hope it
doesn't turn into a WIN95 or was that WIN96 ????

Look I understand that it is developed at no charge , no probs with
that.  Maybe you should hold off on the propoganda until you get
closer..


[e-mail] (Daniel Meredith) wrote:

>[e-mail] () wrote:

>>Hello ALL

>>I have heard lots about win-fbb and it's release.  A number of people
>>have got it .  A lot more of us would like to get a copy if it were
>>posted onto an FTP site....

>>Can anybody help ??????

>The Beta-Test version is still not yet out,  you will be able to find
>it on FTP.FUNET.FI when it is released.  It will also be available
>from the U.S. FBB SUPPORT BBS [phone]

>Daniel






From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:44 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Free classified Ads at Ham Radio Online
Date: 26 Feb 1996 04:33:49 GMT
Message-ID: <4grd7d$[e-mail]>

We've added free "classified" ads to our freeware Ham Radio Online
international "magazine" web site. We also have original feature stories,
international ham radio newsletters, broadcast/SWL info, REAL-TIME world-wide
propagation resources including MUFs, aurora, geomagnetic field conditions and
tons more stuff.

The March stories will begin by the end of the coming weekend. Stop on by
and check out the new Ham Radio Online Interactive section - where you can
add your own messages and your own ads, DX announcements, VHF band openings
or whatever.

Please enjoy,
73, Ed, KF7VY

------------------------
personal email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Steve Sampson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:30:28
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4goin8$[e-mail]> <4gr82a$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Jeff McLeman) writes:

>>I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet
>>program. The registration cost  US$79.
>>Please tell me what you think of the program,  that is if you use the
>>program.

>I paid the $79 and I think it is well worth it. I enjoy using it.
>(I would love to see a Linux version.)

1.  It is not a host mode program.  It's like YAPP.
2.  79 dollars is way too high.  Maybe 30 tops.
3.  It's better than YAPP, not as good as host mode programs.

I agree.  He needs to spend more time with X-Windows and Linux,
and less time with  Windows :-)

Steve



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Per-┼ke Andersson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Problem TNC2 -> Terminal ?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:27:59 +0200
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

 I have bought an old TAPR TNC2 which I am trying to connect to my old
7-bit ASCII terminal.
 But I have problems when monitoring the channel. The terminal get just crazy.
Version 1.1.6 and 1.1.8 of firmware are tested.
 The problem is that I cant reject the controlcharacters and characters 127($7
F)
and up with command MFILTER. I can only exclude 4 control characters.

 AEA PK-232 has a special command in MFILTER $80 which filters all characters
above $7F and all control-char. except carriage-return($0D), linefeed($0A) and
TAB($09). This works fine with my old terminal.

Are there any version of firmware for TNC2 wich have this special MFILTER-comm
.?
Who has a solution to my problem ?

/Per-Ake SM5BGO


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (Figaredo Martin, Alberto Ignac)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Digital Modes & CPCs?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Feb 96 16:14:59 +0100

HI all!

        I have this obsolete Amstrad CPC 464 (no disks, casettes)
that still works, i was wandering if it could be possible to use
it in PR, RTTY or any digital mode.

        I won't take my DX4 for a ride, when i can take the CPC.
And anyway using a 486 for RTTY would be liking using a tank to
deliver pizzas. hi hi

        Any help is welcome, thanks a lot.


Alberto
EB1CFL & EC1AJY (VHF/UHF & HF Novice)
Ax25: [e-mail]
Email: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:48 1996
From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help reach repressed NE tcpipers!
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:02:16 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

The ip-ip internet gateway at gw.w1mx.ampr.org has been turned OFF in
a (near) brilliant political/religious power-play!

As I understand it, initially the gate was off due to some radio
hardware failure. Pity. No one in my area (Ct.)  knew anything about
it. Next time there is a problem like this, IÆd hope more folks would
hear about it. There are many sources for RF gear and MANY willing
donors if the word just gets around. Please make some noise if your
corner of the network is failing!

This is a minor concern however as the radio has already been
replaced. Even still you will notice that no traffic is moving from
other amprnet groups into the Emass/R.I./N.H. area previously served
by the gate.

The reason? The newly self-appointed government of the N.E.amprnet has
requested that the gateway not return to the air until THEY can
determine how it should function.

Phew! Just when you thought the FCC already put too many regulations
and restrictions on packet radio another group pops up choking off
data flow with more rules and 'organizational-strategies'.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, the main explanation for shutting down the gate is
that certain individuals 'believe' that amprnet should only exist in
the ham-radio-RF world. In their minds any use of 'wire-networks' for
the purpose of sending ham radio packet is somehow 'unclean'...

This is nothing more than modern-day religious Puritanism. But, that's
OK. To each his own. If there are those that believe amprnet should
only be sent on ham radios owned and operated by hams that's kool, let
them operate that way.

I just resent having their 'beliefs' rammed down everyone's throat.

This move to keep the gateway SHUT-DOWN until the issue can be
PRIVATELY discussed and the exact functionality of the gate can be
determined is nothing more than a political-strong-arm-power-play
brought to you by the newly self-appointed n.e.amprnet 'government'.

Were I the sysop of the gateway in Emass, IÆd tell them to take their
puritanical B.S. and stuff it.

You want to TALK about how a specific gate or node should function
within the amprnet system, fine. If someone's system is causing
problems with traffic or flow, no problem, let's deal with it. THIS
issue, on the other hand, is nothing more than a religious 'belief'
issue and the newly self-appointed amprnet governors have just
mandated all in their area become "believers". Like it or not.

Ya know when you think about it, this was really a slick move. First,
be sure to cut out the possibility of any discussion with other parts
of the amprnet by isolating the guys using the gate, then pump the
'new political agenda' without opposition. Very slick.

Turn the thing back on and let some discussion flow!

If you disagree with this æback-room-power-playÆ why not drop a note
to one or more of the newly elected N.E.amprnet officials. I am sure
they will welcome an honest and OPEN discussion of the issue.

With the gateway down no traffic is flowing into the repressed area.
If are in the area previously served by the gw.w1mx.ampr.org gate,
please drop me a note. This action deserves some serious response.

-be





From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Christoph Nadig)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for friends
Date: 26 Feb 1996 23:48:15 GMT
Message-ID: <4gtgrv$[e-mail]>

Hi,

I'm looking for friends here in HB9 doing digital comm.

Please email me at [e-mail] or, BETTER [e-mail]

Cheers, Chris

--
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Alexander Kurpiers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2
Date: 27 Feb 1996 07:57:30 GMT
Message-ID: <4gudha$[e-mail]>
References: <4fmdil$[e-mail]> <4fqgag$[e-mail]> <4gfve5$[e-mail]>

In article <4gfve5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bob Nie
lsen) writes:
|> Thomas M Allen <[e-mail]> wrote:
|>
|> >[e-mail] (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) wrote:
|> >>   Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for
|> >>the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should
|> >>have ie. NORD><LINK enhancements etc.)? I don't know anything
|> >>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere
|> >>although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version.
|>
|> >WA8DED's host mode firmware is available on the TAPR ftp site. The
|> >"latest" is at least three years old, however.
|>
|> >--------------------------------------
|> >Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA
|>
|> Actually it is available in a programmed eprom from TAPR but not from
|> the ftp site.  It is available from ftp.ucsd.edu in
|> /hamradio/packet/wa8ded.

The NORD><LINK version (with thousands of enhancements and bug fixes ;-) )
is available on the NORD><LINKs WWW pages:
        http://deister.aball.de/~pg/nordlink/tf.htm

Or look on nic.funet.fi in /pub/ham/packet/misc for tf27b.zip.

Latest version for TNC2 is TF27b, I don't think there is one for the TNC1.
There should be a TF27 for the PK232 available, but I don't know for sure.

73' Alexander DL8AAU



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:52 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: KAM PLUS - FOR SALE
Date: 27 Feb 1996 14:09:26 GMT
Message-ID: <4gv3am$[e-mail]>

For Sale - Kantronics Kam Plus - Mint Condition - asking $250.00, less than 10
 hours of useage,
includes all cables, power supply, manuals and boxes.

If interested you can contact me by email at [e-mail] or call me at 9
01-377-6704 after 6:00
PM CST.


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:53 1996
From: Dave Maciorowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Shuttle FREQ...
Date: 27 Feb 1996 17:04:00 GMT
Message-ID: <4gvdi0$[e-mail]>
References: <4glfvh$[e-mail]>

Amsat maintains a list at:

<http://WWW.AMSAT.ORG/amsat/sarex/shutfreq.html>

For those of you in the Denver area, check our Web page for the list of
repeaters that we carry it on.

-----
Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK
Colorado Repeater Association, Inc.
  Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig

Internet: [e-mail] or [e-mail]
CRA:      http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/cra_news.html




From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Radio Pages
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:34:21 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

The local server recently changed its DNS number. Some people have
complained they can't access my pages any more.

You should be able to find them under:

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

but if not, instead try:

        http://194.176.128.13/~asperges/

and it should work. This is the new DNS address.

The pages contain info of interest to Radio Amateurs, Radio
enthusiasts and Short Wave listeners.

* There are links to many other pages, newsgroups, ftp etc;
* A mock exam;
* Questions and Answers for newcomers;
* IRC links
* Links to Friends on the Net (mostly homepages involved in radio)
* The new Short Wave Listener pages with links to Broadcasters on the
Net.
* The Russian link;
* Sources for help;

There will be new updates in March.

73 de
Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:55 1996
From: Bob Rushby <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: MFJ-1276 & PACTOR
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:35:26 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

Gary Wilcox wrote:
>
> Help
>
>         I just got a new MFJ-1276 TNC and am trying to get it to do
> PACTOR. I have it hooked up OK because I can do regular HF packet but
> when I type PACTOR at the cmd: prompt I get nothing. The TNC will echo
> everything you type but it never gives the p_cmd: prompt. The only way
> to continue is to power off and back on. What gives?
>
> tnx es 73's GaryHi Gary.
First:  make sure you are in command mode (Control-C usually does it)

Second:  type  Mode Pactor
      (mode PTL also works)

third: have fun!  Pactor is a great mode


73,
Bob VE3GLA
--

======================================================
Bob Rushby
              [e-mail]

              [e-mail]
======================================================


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:55 1996
From: [e-mail] (Curt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC Query
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:51:33 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Hello.

I have a generic TNC question.

I am in the market to buy one, and would like to know the difference
between a Katronics KPC-2 and a KPC-3.

Both offer KA-Node, 32K ram, PBBS, WeFax, Kiss and host mode to name a
few. I know the KPC-3 will run off an internal battery, but other than that,
what is the difference between the two?

The 2 is $159.95, and the 3 is $109.95...what gives??

TIA, & 73.


|=================================|
| Curt, [e-mail] |
|=================================|




From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:56 1996
From: Carl Morgan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Operating a TNC using the Kenwood 13 pin DIN plug
Date: 27 Feb 1996 23:41:46 GMT
Message-ID: <4h04rq$[e-mail]>
References: <4glppf$[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

Yes.  My KAM is connected via the data connector.  Initially
connected to a `440S and now a `850S.  Works great!

On the latter (850S), I'm using the FSK (RCA) connector for all
HF modes except packet.  RX selectivity is better although I do
have to take a quick look (on SSB) before initiating a call.

If you need the connections, E-Mail me (don't post; I don't see
this group often).

The `850S setup is a little different from the `440S in that the
former has a pre-amp for the AFSK signal before being applied to
the modulator and the `440S does not.  Not familiar with the `450
or `870S.

Go for it.  Although soldering to the 13-pin DIN is no picnic,
the effort is, I think, worth it.

     73 <> Carl
       K8NHE



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:57 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ed Gallup)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TNC problems with Win95 install
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:42:54 GMT
Message-ID: <4h0isk$[e-mail]>


   When installing Windows 95, the install program interrogates all ports
to identify what's connected to them.  I would suggest that you turn off
your TNC when installing Windows 95.  It interrogated my KAM plus and
screwed it up.  I had to do a hard reset to reactivate it.  No big deal,
but who needs the headaches.

   Ed  WB6SAT  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:58 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ian Cameron)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: IPIP Gateway?  Help needed.
Date: 28 Feb 1996 09:01:11 GMT
Message-ID: <4h15kn$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>A few years ago I was going to setup a ax.25 gateway from the Internet.
>I obtained some info from ucsd.edu, and was working on it, however, I
>got caught up with other things, and was unable to complete the project.
>I have relocated since then, and am now trying to find some data on what
>is being done today.  Can anyone point me towards the coordinating body,
>and data on IPIP, or whatever gateway process is being used these days.?
>
>My email is:  [e-mail]
>
>Thanks.
>

ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/gateways

You should be able to find a FAQ, and the current resource list.

Hope this helps.

Cheers and 73, Ian G0TLB.








From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:02:59 1996
From: [e-mail] (Les Dittert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FTP thru high speed packet : what rate do you get?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:50:44 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Does anybody have a rough idea of actual measued bytes/sec transfer rate
with a given packet setup ? What is the best expected rate for 9600 ?
19,2 ? 56 ?
I'm trying to gauge the actual speed for file transfers , rather than
latency for the connections when you hit CR when 'typing' to somebody.

Les Dittert ,ALT Systems. Hollywood CA.
[e-mail]
http://www.rfx.com/folks/les

"Question MTV"


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:00 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: APRS-PK900/AEA Packratt for Windows question
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:57:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4h1glk$[e-mail]>

Do you run AEA's Packratt for Windows with a PK900 when you run APRS.
If so, can you tell me how to make sure the PK900 will beacon your
position after shutting the program and computer down?  I've tried
entering the time beacon time on the APRS shutdown menu, changing the
Restore.TNC file, and setting up the BE time in the Windows program
but nothing works.  I just want to beacon my position to other APRS
users when the computer is off.
73, Warren     [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:01 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Dennis Mobley)
Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:07:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4goin8$[e-mail]> <4gr82a$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4gsvme$[e-mail]>

KaWin is worth the 79 bucks.
It has alot of very nice features and it works.
Stan Huntting the author has put a great deal of effort into this package.

KaWin is a HOST mode KAM TNC package and I use it with
KAM+ Rev8, KAM 9612 and KPC3 with no problems.

In fact if I had the serial ports, I could run all three
at the same time.

One point, if you have a system that is less then 8 megs of memory
and/or less the a 486 then the performance might be a bit slow.

System I have tested KaWin on...
        1. 386sx  4megs  W3.11  Slow but works
        2. 486dx2 8megs  W3.11  Work very well
        2. 486dx2 8megs  W95    Work very well
        3. P100   8megs  W95    Work very well
        4. P90    32megs W-NT   Work very well

Dennis Mobley KT4FI
Sunrise, FL


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:02 1996
From: [e-mail] (Bob Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Site for Winpacket 5.40
Date: 28 Feb 1996 16:22:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4h2o2p$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Eddie Seymour) wrote:

>Anyone know a good (fast) ftp site for WinPacket v 5.40?
>Know it's on Amsoft but this site is sloow!! THANKS
>Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
>E-Mail [e-mail]
>Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam

ftp.tapr.org in tapr/software_lib/terminal/winp540.zip





From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:02 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Ricky Scott)
Subject: Re: TNC Query
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:58:07 GMT

Curt ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello.

: Both offer KA-Node, 32K ram, PBBS, WeFax, Kiss and host mode to name a
: few. I know the KPC-3 will run off an internal battery, but other than that,

: what is the difference between the two?

The KPC-2 is a full sized full featured packet TNC and is designed for
home or digipeat site use.  The KPC-3 is a small lightweight TNC that is
much smaller and lighter in weight than the 2 and will run about 6-12 hours
(depending on use) on a alkiline 9v battery or run on a 12v power pack.
Ive used it several times as a mobile TNC.   I have owned both and like
them both.  So you might try to take a look at the two of them and decide
which is best for your situation.

Hope that helps.

--
Ricky J. Scott

I dont speak for my company and they do not speak for me
We like it that way and so do their Lawyers.


From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:04 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Richard Berndt)
Subject: Re: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ftpn4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:43:32 GMT

[e-mail] (Charles Hoffman) wrote:

>Gilbert, I have NOT been pleased with the AES PAKRATT II for myself
>nor for my clients to whom I have supplied copies.  I do believe the
>PKGOLD is excellent for most applications and you will find the
>company is MUCH better with customer support...you CANNOT count on AES
>to stand by their customers with product support or backing up their
>ad promotions either.

Boy another paided voice for InterFlex.

Infact I believe and so does others here in Seattle area find their
LACK-OF support for their products worse then AEA.   AEA has been of
more help the InterFlex .

They have not even answered E-Mail or faxes on upgrades to Versions we
HAVE paid for.


>[e-mail] () wrote:

>>I have just upgraded my PK232 and need new software to be able to use PACTOR
.
>>Up to now I was using PAKRATT II but I have read a lot of good reports
>>about PKGOLD, Could anyone tell me which is the best program?

>>Thanks and 73 de Gilbert, VE6GES.


>>--
>>                 [e-mail]


AEA as taken more time to help us thatn has InterFlex.


Richard N7VWJ

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:04 1996
From: Jeff Hilton <notrf@[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: For Sale:  KPC-9612
Date: 28 Feb 1996 21:50:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4h2io3$[e-mail]>

Hello,

I have a KPC-9612 for sale.  Only a month old, barely used, and have
every thing that came in the box.

   Possible trade for KPC-3????

   Asking $175.00 or best offer.

   My email address is [e-mail]

73's



Jeff, [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:05 1996
From: Albert Sole <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Looking for FWD via E-mail
Date: 28 Feb 1996 22:23:03 GMT
Message-ID: <4h2kk7$[e-mail]>

Hi all.

I am looking for a forward partner (especially on VK, VE or
ZS) via electronic mail.
Please, send me a message before to make nothing!

73 de Albert, [e-mail]
E-mail: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:06 1996
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Address for FBB Mailing list.
Date: 28 Feb 1996 22:25:01 -0700
Message-ID: <4h3dbd$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:



>   I remember seeing a mailing list for FBB users,
>   BUT I have lost the subscription/ mailing address.

>   Can someone let me know please.

> Regards,  Merv. (VK3KAW@VK3KAW)

[e-mail]
SUBSCRIBE                                 <----- SUBJECT




From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:07 1996
From: [e-mail] (Ken Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:25:10 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ftpn4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>

Once upon a time, [e-mail] (Richard Berndt) wrote (at least in
part):
>
>Boy another paided voice for InterFlex.
>
Well Richard, I have to stand up for Interflex.  You might very well
have some problems, but I want to tell you about my experience.  See if
you can get this response from any other developer.

I bought PK-Gold for my own use at home here, and have been famously
pleased (around here, anyway) with the results.

Shortly after getting used to the program (no command channel, no stream
switch, each QSO on its own screen, canned text, autoresponding to
callsign,etc etc) I determined that the Only Way to do packet at Field
Day was to run Gold. I stuck the appropriate exchange text into an "Alt
Key message" location, a greeting into the connect message, and a nice
closing blurb in another altkey message.

I was geared up.

This was Friday afternoon.  Field Day started Saturday.

Friday night, as I was getting my stuff together, I decided to try it on
the air.  I changed the MYCALL from KB3JA (me) to W3MUM (the club) and
away we went!

WRONG!  Gold stopped operating.  Wrong callsign, not registered!

I spoke a few words.  Grasping at straws, I called the Interflex
telephone number at 11:30 PM Friday night, got their recorder and
begged, pleaded, and probably complained loudly (but I've forgotten that
part) for some help.

I was crushed.  All this prep and I can't use the club call.  I was
resigned to using Yapp.  Yikes.

Guess what?  They Called Me Back At Almost Midnight and explained the
procedure, why they do it like that, and Gave Me The Code to use with
the club call!  On a Friday night!  At midnight.  Right before Field
Day!  (We got the 100 points, BTW. Piece of cake.)

Now I know midnight my time is nine PM their time, but that does not
detract from their helpfulness.  On a Friday night, to get anybody to
respond at all is fantastic, but to get a return call And a solution at
nine o'clock his time is just outta' sight.

That's the kind of people at Interflex.  I recommend their products
every time I get the chance.

They will always have my business, and I hope you give them yours.

73

Cheers,

Kenneth F. Jones ( mailto:[e-mail] ) ( CIS:73135,1243 )
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ken_jones
PGP Key ID:FE99B25D; key avail on public servers



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:08 1996
From: [e-mail] (Fabrizio )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FWD VIA E-mail
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:58:44 GMT
Message-ID: <4h4oro$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hallo all de IW3RXV Fabrizio in Italy...I search the forward ...i'm
collaborator the IV3AVQ bbs ...TNX and 73 de IW3RXV and IV3AVQ !!
******************************************
IW3RXV Op. Fabrizio
E-mail addr.:[e-mail]
Ampr. addr. :[e-mail]
AX25  addr. :[e-mail]
******************************************



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:09 1996
From: [e-mail] (Fabrizio )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FWD WHIT ITALY
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:01:38 GMT
Message-ID: <4h4p15$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Hallo ALL de IW3RXV and IV3AVQ BBS , i search the e-mail forward ,
whit all side europe.....TNX de IW3RXV _ BBS collaborator



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:10 1996
From: [e-mail] (Fabrizio )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: FWD WHIT ITALY via E-mail
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:01:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4h4p19$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

I'a collaborator of IV3AVQ bbs based in Italy Loc. JN66OB , i serching
a forward friend all over the europe...TNX de IW3RXV
******************************************
IW3RXV Op. Fabrizio
E-mail addr.:[e-mail]
Ampr. addr. :[e-mail]
AX25  addr. :[e-mail]
******************************************



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:11 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jurg L. Jaggi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Bell 202 vs 212A
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:43:43 GMT
Message-ID: <4h4okm$[e-mail]>

Hi folks,

I am trying to set  up (explore)  PMP (poor man's  packet  radio
program) which utilizes a Bell 202 modem. Since I have several old
212A's, I am wondering if one could use two 212A's (one for each
direction) to emulate a 202 without any internal modification. This
presumes that  Bell 202 and 212A modems the identical with the
exception that the 202 is half duplex only.

Am I totally off here? Any suggestion to "convert" a 212A into a 202?

Tnx,

KB2WKX, Jurg



From [e-mail] Fri Mar 01 21:03:12 1996
From: UnBombEr <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Software???
Date: 29 Feb 1996 19:36:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4h4v8l$[e-mail]>



  What is a good packet program to start with??




                                      Thanks,
                                          KC8AGT




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:38 1996
From: [e-mail] (Steve Sampson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Jnos under Desqview
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:05:12
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gqkkt$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Dustin Moore) writes:

>Hi I'm looking for the executable of a version of JNOS that will run
>under Desqview. This is of course in the hopes of creating a more
>perfect union between Desqview, G8BPQ, and W0RLI bbs software so
>if it had the BPQ hooks that would be all the better...

Hell.  What a waste.  JNOS already has a BBS.  Why not get off the
1985 BBS circuit and into the 1990 circuit - TCP/IP.  How many people
really read those boring BBS systems anymore?  Everything is WW
and never of any value.  It's time you dragged your users into the IP
way of doing things.  It's really sad to see someone waste their time
trying to cram megabytes of bullshit into a machine, and then try to
squeeze it through a NetRom circuit (another obsolete circuit).

Here's the right way:

1.   Throw away ROSE.
2.   Throw away NetRom
3.   Throw away BBS
4.   Get an X-1 chip and set it up for TCP/IP, turn off NetRom.
5.   Get JNOS and run it to your TNC.  (9600 or greater).
5a. Get Linux up and running, and run JNOS on it.

Don't use TNOS, it's 1985 technology, and going backwards.
Try Kernel AX.25, but it's pretty damn buggy.

Steve



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:39 1996
From: Jeff Goebel <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help with old Dos 3.10
Date: 26 Feb 1996 00:58:10 GMT
Message-ID: <4gr0j2$[e-mail]>

I did a stupid thing and deleted my Command.com for Dos 3.1
from the root
directory and then shut the computer off.  (I was trying to
upgrade the
Dos version on and old 8088 machine.)  I only have a startup
disk for Dos
2.0 and it won't give me access to the 2 20meg hard drives on
the machine
so I can get things going again.

Can anyone tell me how to do this or can anyone send me a copy
of
Command.com for Dos 3.10 so I can get started again?  I do have
the rest
of the Dos on my hard drive I just can't get at it.  The
computer is a IBM
5150.

Thanks

Jeff Goebel N0VHB

e-mail <[e-mail]>
packet <n0vhb@w0ilo.#send.nd.usa.noam>




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:40 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff McLeman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:00:42 GMT
Message-ID: <4gr82a$[e-mail]>
References: <4goin8$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Sherwin Lim) wrote:

>Hello All...

>I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet
>program. The registration cost  US$79.
>Please tell me what you think of the program,  that is if you use the
>program.

>thanks
>sherwin

I paid the $79 and I think it is well worth it. I enjoy using it.
(I would love to see a Linux version.)

The latest update has some pretty cool enhancements.


Jeff -- KD1IT




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:41 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jeff McLeman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: JNOS not receiving - help.
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:00:53 GMT
Message-ID: <4gr82l$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <3ses32$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Ron Zastovnik) wrote:

>In article <3ses32$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ron Zastov
nik) writes:
>>>Running JNOS110j on a 286 and 486 and I cannot get it to receive data from
>>>the tnc.  It seems to transmit my ID Okay, but nothing is received, not eve
n
>>>when I set tracing on.   When I run KA9Q's NOS, everything works okay.  My
>>>autoexec.nos for jnos is about the same as for NOS except that the commands
>>>that JNOS does not use are removed.
>>>
>>>Does anyone have any clues to why JNOS does not receive?  I have gone
>>>through all of my doc's searching for an answer.
>>
>>Make sure that you have
>>param port dtr on
>>param port rts on
>>where port is the name of the port. If you don't set these to on, JNOS
>>will Xmit, but not receive.
>>
>>73's  de  Jack   -  kf5mg
>>Internet / hobby -  [e-mail]              - home [phone]
>>         /  work -  [e-mail]          - work [phone]
>>         /  misc -  [e-mail]                - metro(817) 481-7182
>>PBBSnet          -  kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.noam      -      for voice mail
>>+=========================================================================+
>>+     I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts...     +
>>+=========================================================================+

>I now find out that the actual problem is that trace does not work.
>It does receive okay, but nothing is displayed on the screen when
>trace is on.  (trace tnc0 111).  Works fine on nos.  So my question
>now is why does my trace not work?



>--
>----------------------------------------------------------
>Ron Zastovnik, Tech Support  ([e-mail])
>Cal Stata Univ Psychology Dept., Fresno, CA.  93740-0011
>-----------------------------------------------------------
Did you hit F9 to go to the trace window?

Jeff -- KD1IT




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:42 1996
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Ramsey Packet Modem
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:31:18 GMT
Message-ID: <4gr9iu$[e-mail]>
References: <4glu16$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] (Evan L. Schemm) wrote:

>I recently dug out my old Ramsey Packet Modem to use as a second TNC.
>It works fine with the BAYCOM software that came with it, but I want
>to use it for something else (and possibly not on a PC).

>Does anyone know of any source code for the BAYCOM program, or anything
>similar?  I tried hooking it up and letting a generic terminal program
>listen, but nothing came through.  I suspect that it needs something
>more.
You might find some info at http://www.baycom.de/index.html but I
don't think the source code is available.  PacComm is the US
distributer I believe.
Baycom modems will run in NOS programs if support is compiled in.
The JNOS versions I'm familiar with have baycom drivers.
Also I think the SP program works with baycom modems.
Gene WA4WBI




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:44 1996
From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Help with BPQ under WIN96
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:19:25 GMT
Message-ID: <4grg09$[e-mail]>

Hello ALL

I have a problem with BPQ under WIN95....
P.S I use BPQ v4.08

If I setup an async port under BPQ and then start win95, everything
works OK..I can then run winpac 5.4 and it works fine, out of the
serial port.  I connect this directly to my FBB system and all is ok.

Now, my problem is that I want to run it via ethernet..  My sequence
of events are as follows

1) Boot WIN95 machine
2) Break out of BOOT and goto DOS
3) Load LSL.com
4) Load ce2ODI.exe - XIRCOM Credit card adaptor
5) Goto BPQ directory and run odidrv 200

I test this process by loading the switch program and it works great..
Now the fun starts !!!

1) I now type in  WIN and I do NOT get the BPQ message.
2) I start Winpack, it DOESN'T complain that the BPQAPI driver isn't
loaded.
3) I try a manual connect and there is NO activity on the ethernet..

When I type in "WIN", after 5 seconds the adaptor beeps, telling me
that the card is being initialised.  I think that is part of my
problem, but the other odd thing is that the BPQ message doesn't come
up when using an external driver..

Does anyone have any ideas..  I am using the driver supplied by the
card vendor..  Is there an issue here with real mode drivers ???

I know you MUST load the BPQ switch in dos before windows comes up as
per the Winpack v5.4 doco.  This appears to be a catch 22 as the win
startup re-initialises the card....

Thanks for your help !!!!!



From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:45 1996
From: [e-mail] (Barry Sanders)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: 2-Meter Handhelds ~= Amateur Cellular?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:31:24 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Please pardon my starry-eyed naivete and dream along with me, if you will...

What I'd like to know is this:  What sort of testbeds or infrastructures
are in place (anywhere) that allow for hand-held radio xcvr's to be used
for anything even remotely resembling cellular-like service?  What I mean
by this is:

* Origination of telephone (POTS) calls through local repeater(s).

* Signalling for incoming calls (I have no idea how this would work,
  except using a conventional pager setup in tandem w/ hand-held xcvr,
  or some kind of very sophisticated hand-held with a coded ID.)

* Tracking of location within range of xcvr and repeater with notification
  of weak signal (or even possibility of auto-switching to another repeater?)

If you follow what I'm getting at here, it would require a lot of sophisticate
d
software and possibly some specialized hardware at the repeater side (
which would actually be a little bi-directional wireless-to-telco
gateway.)

I'm not a HAM (of any stripe - yet); but I have had several HAM friends who
have instructed me about the capabilities of various flavors of XCVR's,
RF amps., RF bands, antennas, repeaters, etc.   Anyway, my expertise
is mostly in computers and TCP/IP networking concepts.  I'm envisioning
an automated system for voice communications using hand-helds in tandem with
POTS telephone service (as outlined above), and would be grateful for *any*
comments, suggestions or "other feedback" (preferably via private email to
save bandwidth in this group).  Don't just tell me I'm crazy - tell me WHY ;)

Apologies if this posting is inappropriate.  I tried to find the most
appropriate amateur radio newsgroup.  This seemed like the one.

Thanks for any help.

Barry

BTW:  My intentions are fully non-profit.  I'm very much against the
commercial domination of our public airwaves.  My vision is for a system
that allows cellular-like convenience for licensed citizens on public-
access RF bands using off-the-shelf hardware of modest cost, and organized
by local volunteer organizations.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:46 1996
From: [e-mail] (James C. Brost)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: KPC-3 PBFORWD command?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:47:05 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4glkpu$[e-mail]>

In article <4glkpu$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Wilson Small)
wrote:

> hi all..
>
> I noticed a command called PBFORWD when I hit the '?' on my Kantronics
> KPC-3 TNC.... I can't find this command in my reference manual ....
> can anybody tell me what this command is supposed to do?
>
> thankx
>
> wilson

Look at the Document for the 5.1 upgrade.

You must set HTEXT first, then you can use this to foward messages in
MYPBBS to a local PBBS set in PBFOWARD.

--
[e-mail] (Internet)

KB2WDI@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA (AX.25 Packet)
kb2wdi.ampr.org [44.68.36.83] (TCP/IP Packet)


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:47 1996
From: Jim Daneke <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: FS:2m HT
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 15:48:27 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gnqbm$[e-mail]>
To: edmund emich <[e-mail]>

edmund emich wrote:
>
> ADI AT-200 2m HT
> 5w, 130-168 Mhz RX
> TX 144-148 Mhz , Mars/CAP capable
> 20 mem,CTCSS,DTMF,SCAN,CSC,PAGING,CALL,ect.
> Very small, only 2" at hand hold.
> NEW ONLY $199.00
> Call [phone]
> EMAIL   [e-mail]

GREAT DEAL. Why pay $165 for the same model NEW at HRO with a
warranty when you can buy it used from this guy?
LET THE BUYER BEWARE!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:48 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
From: [e-mail] (Charles Hoffman)
Subject: Re: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:23:01 GMT
Reply-To: choffman @pelican.davlin.net
References: <4ftpn4$[e-mail]>

Gilbert, I have NOT been pleased with the AES PAKRATT II for myself
nor for my clients to whom I have supplied copies.  I do believe the
PKGOLD is excellent for most applications and you will find the
company is MUCH better with customer support...you CANNOT count on AES
to stand by their customers with product support or backing up their
ad promotions either.

[e-mail] () wrote:

>I have just upgraded my PK232 and need new software to be able to use PACTOR.
>Up to now I was using PAKRATT II but I have read a lot of good reports
>about PKGOLD, Could anyone tell me which is the best program?

>Thanks and 73 de Gilbert, VE6GES.


>--
>                 [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:49 1996
From: [e-mail] (Pete Keyes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: JNOS not receiving - help.
Date: 26 Feb 1996 17:51:04 GMT
Message-ID: <4gsru8$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <3ses32$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4gr82l$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Or try "strace off"

--
[e-mail]
        * This is Another Fine Myth You've Gotten Me Into!!!*
        Lor L. and Har D.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:50 1996
From: Leon Heller <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Siskin connections database?
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 21:41:40 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4gqrc4$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <4gqrc4$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Robert G Miles" writes:

> Having seen the advert in RADCOM that SISKINS have a database for
> TNC-RIG connections, I logged on to their WWW page but cannot find
> said database!
>
> Anyone had any better luck?
>
> Am I missing something or wot!
>
> Bob
> GM4CAQ
>
> PS I need the connections for the Thor 2 port PC TNC card if anyone
> knows it.  Also what interface for operating the PTT line?

Isn't the Thor 2 similar to the Sinclair QL? Siskin used to have details
of the QL connections, and some packet software for it.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM                | "Do not adjust your mind, there is
E-mail [e-mail]  |  a fault in reality": on a wall
Phone: [phone]         |  many years ago in Oxford.


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:51 1996
From: [e-mail] (Gert Carlsson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Winpack PGP-server, where?
Date: 26 Feb 1996 23:51:37 GMT
Message-ID: <4gth29$[e-mail]>

Does anybody know if the PGP-server for Winpack 5.40 is available
for download via anonymous ftp?

Gert E B Carlsson
E-mail: [e-mail]
SM5LWC


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:52 1996
From: [e-mail] (Thomas Randall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Shuttle FREQ...
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 01:36:02 GMT
Message-ID: <4gtn8u$[e-mail]>
References: <4glfvh$[e-mail]>

In article <4glfvh$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (ALUBATHSA2) wrote:
>Hello Everyone,
>
>     WOuld any1 have a current list of ShuttleFREQS lying around the
>shack, seem to have lost my list.... Thanx in ADVANCE...
>
>73's
>
>JEFF


   WA3NAN - 3.860
            7.185
           14.285
           14.295
           21.390
           21.395
           28.650

In N.Y. I get them best on the first 2 on a SWL radio. On a Ham HF rig
their 20 over.

Tom



   Tom Randall            Amateur Radio - KB2SMS
   [e-mail]       Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL
                          Member: AAVSO Solar Division

   Opinions herein are mine and they are not that of MHV.NET!


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:53 1996
From: [e-mail] (Eddie Seymour)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Site for Winpacket 5.40
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 01:48:27 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]

Anyone know a good (fast) ftp site for WinPacket v 5.40?
Know it's on Amsoft but this site is sloow!! THANKS
Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE
E-Mail [e-mail]
Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:55 1996
From: fiz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Difference between host and terminal modes?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:06:46 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

Could someone tell me what the difference is between "host" and
"terminal" modes in TFPCX?

ttfn  fiz (KG0YG)


From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:57 1996
From: Mike Berg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: AD-4 deviation meter tip
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:24:55 PDT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>


                AD-4 Deviation meter installation tip.

        Purchased a AD-4 analog to digital board from PacComm ($50)
to add the deviation meter feature to our area TheNet X1-J4 node.
After installation I was unable to get any range from the meter reading.
Most of the problem was because the radio I was interfacing to had a
fixed audio output and as I was to find out, the input level to the
meter ciruit is critical.  Another confusing detour is in the docs, where
it says you should see a 10 volt p-p at the output of the 324 op amp.
Looking at the circuit diagram and the scope trace shows a more
realistic 4v p-p.  The incoming signal's peaks must just clip the upper
rail - no more or all the readings become compressed near one figure.
        I used the prototype area included on the board to mount a 10k
trimpot, with one end grounded, the other connected to the tnc rx audio.
Input to the deviation meter is taken off the wiper terminal and can be
adjusted to optimum.  Since the board is inside the tnc case, the
setting is protected from inadvertant changes.
        There's one more trimpot in the circuit located between the 324
op amp and the A/D chip.  Docs say that it's to scale to input to below
3 volts - not a problem as I measured 1.4v to the A/D input with open
squelch noise and the trimpot at max.
        Set up in this manner, the deviation meter offset (meter
command) at 45 gave the most accurate readings for me.  Docs reccomend
47 as a starting point.  All in all, a very good investment.
73      Mike  N0QBH




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:58 1996
From: Stefan Rosenhall <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Re: Help with BPQ v4.08 under windows
Date: 28 Feb 1996 17:21:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4h22uo$[e-mail]>
References: <4h01q4$[e-mail]>

[e-mail] () wrote:
>Hello ALL
>
>I have installed BPQ ver 4.08 on my bbs hoping to get it to run under
>windows.  Here is where the fun starts
>
>1) BPQCFG compiled ok
>2) BPQCODE loaded ok..
>3) Start win3.11 (G8BPQ message comes up when windows starts)
>4) Start FBB
>5) Windows says that a dos application is trying to take control of a
>comms port.  I can't seem to get furthur than this..
>
>I have placed the .dll and.386 file into the windows system directory
>as per the doco.  What have I missed out on ??  It maybe simple but I
>can't see it !!! Any help would be appreciated !!!!
>
>Cheers..Pete..vk2yx
>
Hi Pete!
I guess you'll have to disable the comport from windows.
Go to: controlpanel\ports\preferences   and disable the comport from
windows so windows can't find that port....
I' have done it myself.....i'm runing Winpack 5.4 + Bpq408a with a
simple baycom-modem.....and it works just fine!!

Good luck!
73's Stefan...




From [e-mail] Thu Mar 07 09:58:59 1996
From: Donnie Hagan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: ORION TELECOM?
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:08:24 -0800
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail] <4gks9a$[e-mail]> <4gon7k$[e-mail]>

Anybody had any dealings with these guys-good or bad? E-mail me please.