World of Ham Radio 1997/WOHR97_AmSoft_(1997-02-01).iso/usenets/1996_01/_miscela.txt

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From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space
Subject: Amsat Phase 3D
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 96 01:51:20 GMT
Organization: Montana Communications Network
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Thanks to all who donated time and money to the Amsat Phase 3d project
in 1995.  Time before launch is getting short, and donations are still
needed.  Do what you can in 1996 to help us get the Phase 3D satellite
off the ground.

Thanks 73, & Happy new year!

[e-mail]



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:50 1996
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From: "Thomas C. J. Sefranek" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Russ the SWL got it right.
Date: 1 Jan 1996 01:55:56 GMT
Organization: SRC
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Russ the SWL got my question 100% correct on transistors.
>That makes 2 correct fully , six 2/3 correct and about 5 dumb answers.
>
>And 1000 that did not try.
>
This number is FAR too small!

Tom
WA1RHP

Ignorance can be fixed with education,
Stupid is FOREVER!

And very nice to hear from you again Dave.

My Motorola book specifies .1 volt or less for currents under 100 ma.




From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:51 1996
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!Randall
From: [e-mail] (Thomas Randall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC Database Question
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 96 02:15:09 GMT
Organization: MHVNet, the Mid Hudson Valley's Internet connection
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   LVScott <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Is there any way to find out the station location of an amateur radio
>station by looking up the callsign instead of just the mailing address?
>I realize you can get the mailing address from things such as the QRZ
>CD-Rom but since an amateur license contains both the mailing address and
>station location address and since they may be different, I was wondering
>if any database is available to find the station location too.
>

  Point yor web browser to www.qrz.com

Tom


   Tom Randall            Amateur Radio - KB2SMS
   [e-mail]       Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL
                          Member: AAVSO Solar Division

   Opinions herein are mine and they are not that of MHV.NET!


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Cira)
Subject: DX & QSL SOURCES
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1]
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 03:04:55 GMT
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LOOKING FOR A QSL ROUTE DATABASE'S SOURCE, TRY THESE ......
-----------------------------------------------
QSL INFO COPENHAGEN DX CLUSTER,OZ1CTK DATABASE 80,000 ENTRIES.
QSL MANAGERS REVIEW BY UA0KBZ 47,000 MGRS ....
QSL MGR DIRECTORY 40,000 ENTRIES BY WB4KCL....
QSL MGR LIST BY AE4AP/KB4RGW MGRS+OPS DATABASE..
QSL ROUTES "DX-ROUTEBOOK" 1996 EDITION 55,500 ENTRIES BY KB6AXK.
QSL ROUTES+QSL NEWS 70,000 MGRS/OPS IN BOOK FORM BY DG0ZB + OTHERS.
R&R RUSSIAN CALLBOOK DATABASE 30,780 ON DISC BY RA6YR ,OCTAVIA CO..
DATAMATRIX QSL MGR DB 30,000 ROUTES, BY KI5OG ORDER 505-892-5669..

DX BULLETIN'S & NEWSLETTERS & MAGAZINES THAT LIST QSL ROUTES:
-------------------------------------------------------------
QRZ DX BULLETIN BY W5KNE.
QSL MGR LIST BY AE4AP/KB4RGW aka GOLIST.
QST MAGAZINE BY W1AW/ARRL.
DX BULLETIN+MAGAZINE BY VP2ML/WB2CHO.
DX NEWS LETTER BY DL7VEE
DX NEWS SHEET BY G4DYO+RSGB..
DX WORLD-GUIDE BY DJ9ZB..
DX-LOGGEN BY SM0CNS..
INSIDE DX NEWSLETTER BY N2AU+DAVE MILLER..
LES NOUVELLES DX NEWS BY FE6AJA+F6AJA
EA-DX by U.R.E.(Union de Radioaficinados Espanoles)
CQ HAM RADIO from JAPAN
LONG ISLAND DX BULLETIN BY W2IYX (NOW SK !) TRY VP2ML/WB2CHO !.
JAPAN DX NEWS/JDXN/ BY JH1FDP.
WORLDRADIO MAGAZINE BY N6WR+KC6RUD+K6FO+KB6HP.
LONG SKIP/CANADA DX NEWS BY VE3IPR
CQ THE RADIO AMATEUR'S JOURNAL
DXPRESS BY PA3FQA
DAFK DX NEWS BY DARC+DL1SEB
NOTIZIE DAL DX 425 NEWS BY IW6MCX+I1JQJ+IK1GPG+IK1IYU
DARC DX BULLETIN BY DK7NP
DXMB BY DL3RK
OPDXB BY KB8NW
MDXN/QSL-INFO-LIST BY DB1JAW
IDXP BULLETIN BY OM3EI
MRDXA BULLETIN by OH1NOA+OH1RBF
160 DX BULLETIN by OM3ZJW
CHINA HAM NEWS by BZ1QL+BY1QH
PY-DX by ???.
LOW BAND MONITOR by ???.
THE 59(9) DX Report by WB2YQH

CD-ROM;
-----------------------
CALLBOOK (FLYING HORSE)
QRZ
HAMCALL
BUCKMASTER
SAMS
AMSOFT

QSL ROUTES OTHER SOURCES:
-----------------------------------
QSL ROUTES ON THE AIR BY INDEXA 14.236 MHZ AT 2300-0130Z EVERY DAY.
_________________________________________________________________

EDITED AND COMPILED BY KB6AXK/ARRL/SW/LAX/ACC.......DEC-31-1995...|
look for this list on the HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS at 1-818-584-1952.
e-mail: [e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------------


--
US AMATEUR RADIO  |sysop of the HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS|
KB6AXK            | at 1-818-584-1952,joe cira          |
PASADENA,CAL,91107|     [e-mail]               |


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Cira)
Subject: HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE*BBS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1]
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 03:06:29 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

HELLO FELLOW HAMS:and FUTURE HAMS !!!!!!!

HAM BBS dedicated to amateur radio !!!!

There is a DEVOTED AMATEUR RADIO BBS in town ,from your
ARRL/LAX  affiliated club coordinator , JOE CIRA , KB6AXK ...........
Everything and anything about AMATEUR RADIO will be found here,
IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!!


        HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS at 1-818-584-1952....
        24 hrs,8-n-1,anyspeed.......
        running 486/66 with 2.1 gig of space !!!
        cd/rom's soon and TNC/PACKET DOOR IS UP & RUNNING !!!
        qsl route database,clubs,newsletters,bulletins,shareware,utility
        mods,programs,test ques,lists,software and much more....
        VEC/VE exam & class  list for all So.Cal.
        sample exam tests and answers for all class's..
        ARRL mirror of all there files !
        Using Wildcat v4.11 software..
        easy to log in and no FEE's it's FREE !
        5,800 FILES IN 115 FILE AREA'S..so far !
***GOOD NEWS THE LANDLINE TO HAM PACKET DOOR IS UP AND RUNNING**********
        ARE YOU ON THE HAM USERS LIST ???????


73's & 88's de kb6axk,joe cira,ARRL/LAX/ACC.
INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:> [e-mail]

/EX
S









--
US AMATEUR RADIO  |sysop of the HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS|
KB6AXK            | at 1-818-584-1952,joe cira          |
PASADENA,CAL,91107|     [e-mail]               |


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:55 1996
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From: Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 1 Jan 1996 03:49:44 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
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Message-ID: <4c7lko$[e-mail]>
References: <4bt4f2$[e-mail]> <4bu6j3$[e-mail]> <4bv10g$[e-mail]> <4c016q$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: transitory25.lanl.gov

[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:
>

>
> Hey are you using a government sponsored internet account to
> broadcast your stupidity?  We are paying taxes for your lame
> posts...
>
> Either get your own account or stop wasting taxpayers money..
> Gerald Schmitt can be also be contacted at [e-mail]
> or 505-667-3923 to discuss his abuse of government facilities
> or you can contact his supervisor directly..
>

Stephan,

This news group is carried on a Lab news server I think we are
intended to use that server. As you should know my access actually
costs nothing so the issue is moot. I could use my personal
account but this is much more convenient when I have to work after
hours.

Your attempt to attack a persons job is a new low and completely
vilifies my previous opinions. Do you always try and bully
people who don't agree with you? I checked my e-mail and no hate
mail so far perhaps no one really cares about all this. I thought
these groups were for debate and the exchange of ideas if that
is in error please forgive me I didn't realize I was on 75 meters.

An extremely personal attack like this does serve to weaken the
position of the attacker as it makes it obvious there is no rational
defense for their position. Congratulations on learning how to use
finger by the way.

Try and lighten up a little bit you're going to stress out.






From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: Frank Connelly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Ham God born
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On 31 Dec 1995, Dave Ennes wrote:

> I don't know the answer but the guy at the place I bought my computer
> said "I have seen lots of Mac people change over to Dos but have never
> seen it
> the other way."
>
>
>
Probably because this guy doesn't sell Macs.


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: no-code=no-brain
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 07:54:20 GMT
Organization: CyberComm Online Services
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>>Here ye! Here ye! Read all about it!  Alligator hollars BIG MOUTH!
>>POT CALLS KETTLE BLACK!  FCC says, "CODE STAYS!"  hehehehe

>For now.


>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM


For now and including your next life where you come back as
an iambic keyer..

Steve, Wa2NHZ




From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:46:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 08:20:14 GMT
Organization: CyberComm Online Services
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Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin) wrote:
>>

>>
>> Hey are you using a government sponsored internet account to
>> broadcast your stupidity?  We are paying taxes for your lame
>> posts...
>>
>> Either get your own account or stop wasting taxpayers money..
>> Gerald Schmitt can be also be contacted at [e-mail]
>> or 505-667-3923 to discuss his abuse of government facilities
>> or you can contact his supervisor directly..
>>

>Stephan,

>This news group is carried on a Lab news server I think we are
>intended to use that server. As you should know my access actually
>costs nothing so the issue is moot. I could use my personal
>account but this is much more convenient when I have to work after
>hours.

>Your attempt to attack a persons job is a new low and completely
>vilifies my previous opinions. Do you always try and bully
>people who don't agree with you? I checked my e-mail and no hate
>mail so far perhaps no one really cares about all this. I thought
>these groups were for debate and the exchange of ideas if that
>is in error please forgive me I didn't realize I was on 75 meters.

>An extremely personal attack like this does serve to weaken the
>position of the attacker as it makes it obvious there is no rational
>defense for their position. Congratulations on learning how to use
>finger by the way.

>Try and lighten up a little bit you're going to stress out.



Use your own personal account...I'm not stressing out and
I am paying for your access...That is one of the problems of
some people that work for the government...they think it
doesn't cost anyone anything..There is no problem for using that
account for the collecting and dissemination of useful information,
but the nonsense that we ridiculously amuse ourselves with on
rec.radio.amateur.misc.  has no place on a government sponsored
server..I also have a similar account and do use it properly, but I
pay for and use my own personal account when I play "drive-by
internet shootings" here.  And to answer your question; yes.. :o>


Happy New Year,

Steve, WA2NHZ..

Try and smarten up a little bit before you do draw fire..

Steve, WA2NHZ



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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo and RFI ???
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 08:29:43 GMT
Organization: CyberComm Online Services
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[e-mail] (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:


>I may be purchaseing a Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo in about 6 months, and
>was wondering if there were any known RFI problems with it?

>

>--
>Scott Ehrlich                   Web: http://www.ehrlichtronics.com
>E-mail: [e-mail]                [e-mail]
>Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z


I have a 1995 Jeep Cherokee Sport with straight six..absolutely no
ignition noise or any other type of electrical problems on HF or
VHF 144/220...on mine anyway..I ran shielded power cables through
convenient grommet to passenger compartment..

I have heard of numerous problems with the Ford Explorer on here with
the internal fuel pump..

Steve, WA2NHZ







From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James M. Atkinson, Communications Engineer)
Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,comp.security.unix
Subject: TSCM Counter Surveillance, Privacy,  & Security Page
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 08:42:16 -0500
Organization: tscm.com
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Keywords: Security Counterintelligence Debugging Surviellance Wiretap
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Happy New Year!!!!!

TSCM, Counter Surveillance and Debugging Page new materials... Check it out...

http://www.tscm.com/

Large section on TSCM test equipment
Large section on TSCM training and career paths

- James M. Atkinson     "...shaken, not stirred"


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken)
Subject: gunnplexers???
X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4]
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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 09:22:42 GMT

Happy New Year...,

I was wondering anyone use 10GHz gunnplexers with ethernet cards as a data
link???


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James R. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Scheduler With Output Function
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 96 10:21:35 GMT
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I would like to know if the Creative Labs Soundblaster card, along with
Scheduler, can be equipped with an output function.  You know, to turn
something on and off with.

If not, do you know where I can obtain such a card and software?

Thanks

Jim


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pat Masterson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need route for ZS6CAX please
Date: 1 Jan 1996 10:40:57 -0500
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 I can't find ZS6CAX in any callbook here. If you can find
 a mailing address, please send it to me. Thanks. -pat

--
*  Pat Masterson  B38-111, Northrop Grumman Corp.*  Ham:KE2LJ
*  1111 Stewart Ave., Bethpage NY 11714          *  Packet: [e-mail]
*  516-346-6316                                  *  President Grumman Amateur
*  email: [e-mail]                        *  Radio Club  WA2LQO


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Hamsome)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Yaseu FT 890at Mod
Date: 1 Jan 1996 11:16:16 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <4c91cg$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Hamsome)
NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com

Does anybody have experience with the Yaseu 890at mod to allow transmit on
all freqs?  Does it work?
thanks


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From: [e-mail] (KF2TI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo and RFI ???
Date: 1 Jan 1996 12:49:04 -0500
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In article <4c85jf$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Stephan Rashkin) writes:

>I have a 1995 Jeep Cherokee Sport with straight six..absolutely no
>ignition noise or any other type of electrical problems on HF or
>VHF 144/220...on mine anyway..I ran shielded power cables through
>convenient grommet to passenger compartment..
>
>

I also have a friend with a Cherokee Sport...we grounded everything.  The
power cables for VHF and HF are coaxial cable with the center condustor as
hot and the outer braid as ground.  no noise at all.

I have another friend with an 1994 Grand Cherokee..no noise, but when he
TX 2 meters on high power, the rear wiper activates.  the antenna is in
the rear of the vehicle.  at this point no idea what to do to remedy


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From: Albert AERTS <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQ CQ CQ de ON6TS
Date: 1 Jan 1996 13:30:45 GMT
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To: All

*** Have a Happy and Healthy New Year ***

I am looking for amateur radio contacts in pactor/amtor.
Main target area: U.S.A - CARIBBEAN

You can find me every day for many hours on:
14076.5 - 18106.5 - 21076.5 all mark carrier frequencies, depending on
band conditions.
Whenever I am at home but not in the shack, my personal mailbox is on and
you can leave me a message.

73's and hope to talk to you soon.
C U L de Albert ON6TS

AX25 packet: [e-mail]
Internet: [e-mail]
Homepage: fttp://www.club.innet.be/~pub01234





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From: Albert AERTS <[e-mail]>
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Subject: CQ CQ CQ de ON6TS
Date: 1 Jan 1996 13:31:29 GMT
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*** Have a Happy and Healthy New Year ***

I am looking for amateur radio contacts in pactor/amtor.
Main target area: U.S.A - CARIBBEAN

You can find me every day for many hours on:
14076.5 - 18106.5 - 21076.5 all mark carrier frequencies, depending on
band conditions.
Whenever I am at home but not in the shack, my personal mailbox is on and
you can leave me a message.

73's and hope to talk to you soon.
C U L de Albert ON6TS

AX25 packet: [e-mail]
Internet: [e-mail]
Homepage: fttp://www.club.innet.be/~pub01234





From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:07 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Drew wants them all dead.
Date: 1 Jan 1996 13:37:09 GMT
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Drew sent me a message where he wished all gays would get AIDS
and die.

Now will you hams give Drew the response he deserves?

Most likely you will do what hams do better than any other group (except
the Germans of Nazi Germany) and  LOOK THE OTHER WAY.


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)




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From: [e-mail] (Chris Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Winter Park freqs?
Date: 1 Jan 1996 14:04:24 -0600
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   Some friends and I will be going to Winter Park, Colorado in a few
days, and I'd like to know which frequencies to use.  I'll be taking a
dual-band HT (2m/70cm) to the slopes.  In the car I'll have an amplifier
and an external antenna.

   I have an Anli antenna (about 12" long) for the HT.  Should I get
a different one (Hot Rod or other), or a Tiger Tail?  I'd like to try
to work a repeater from the slopes.  Any suggestions?

   Thanks in advance!

Chris
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dummy up, Dummy down
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 14:27:49 GMT
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On 30 Dec 1995 21:32:25 GMT, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>[e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth) wrote:
>
>>>I cannot answer because you didn't give enough information.
>>>
>>>>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
>>>>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?
>>>
>>>Where is the emitter attached?
>>>
>>If the transistor is a npn it might be less than 10 volts. If it's a
>>pnp, it might be more than 10 volts. I can't see where it matters much
>>if by definition the transistor is saturated. Same goes for the other
>>examples...
>
>
>The comments are getting dumber and dumber.
>How can it ever be more than 10 volts.
>Might be less than 10v? If saturated that is an understatement.
>The answers I got by direct E mail may not have all correct but
>they were not out in left field.
>
>--
>
Look cut me some slack on this one. I wasn't talking about the Vce. I
THOUGHT that was obvious. For the record: Vce is whatever Vce sat is
for the device 0.3; 0.6;  hell maybe it's a darlington and Vcesat is
1.2v.....

What  i was talking about was where the emitter is attached. The guy
asking where the emitter was attached was off base base a bit. I was
merely pointing out that where the emitter was attached was almost
irrelevant because the device was defined as saturated....

allow me to rephrase my comment a bit:

THE EMITTER might be connected to less than 10 volts  if the
transistor is a npn. If it's a pnp, THE EMITTER might be connected to
more than 10 volts.

My point is that it doesn't matter (much) if by definition the
transistor is saturated.

gees...




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Subject: Re: What hams know about electronics.( the survey said):
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 15:55:46 GMT
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John,
Its obvious Burt wrote all he knew about Ham Radio. What makes this
hobby interesting is the wide variety of professions, vocations and
avocations (oops -might be too big a word for Burt- found in our hobby
WB6CKT.

[e-mail] (John McDavid) wrote:

>Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>GEE burt does that apply to u ? I work for a large telleco co.
>Providing pots to digital packet. Lets see about 1/3 of my co-workers
>are hams....Education Novice to Extra.... B.S.E.E, M.B.A, P.E's and a
>P.H.D. Naw we dont know beans about no tricity, but my dady had a TV
>once. I Think I had a Teacher like you once.Check out IEEE
>publications a bunch of those guys have ham calls, but that dont no
>nothing!





















From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:11 1996
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From: "Brian D. Morgan, CPBE" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Homepages
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 16:17:52 -0800
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I am compiling a list of Ham Radio Homepages for
inclusion in my own. If you or your club has a page
that youwould want included, drop me an e-mail
message. My homepage address is listed in my
signature. Thanks and 73.
--

Brian D. Morgan, CPBE
Assistant Chief Engineer
The Center for Educational Television  Southern
Illinois University School of Medicine
http://www.fgi.net/~bmorgan/wa9iaf.htm
[e-mail]   or  [e-mail]
WA9IAF@W9YCI.#CIL.IL.USA.NA


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Croft)
Subject: FROST FEST INFO WANTED
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FROSTFEST INFO PLEASE!  WOuld appreciate an email on when and wher the "FrostF
est" is.  I've heard its a good hamfest, but little else.
As I'm in Indiana, would appreciate some details as to how many attend, is it
a HamFest or a computer show?  Motel recommendations?

Thanks i advance & HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!

WB9IQI/PATRICK





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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 1 Jan 1996 17:31:39 GMT
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In article <4c851n$[e-mail]>,
Stephan Rashkin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>but the nonsense that we ridiculously amuse ourselves with on
>rec.radio.amateur.misc.  has no place on a government sponsored
>server..I also have a similar account and do use it properly, but I

Nor carried on government-sponsored T3's, using protocols and programs paid
for by government-sponsored research, right?

>Try and smarten up a little bit before you do draw fire..

Steve, I have two words for you: Prune Juice.

>Steve, WA2NHZ

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:14 1996
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From: Robert  Moren <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dummy up, Dummy down
Date: 1 Jan 1996 17:48:58 GMT
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    I am attempting to enter the world of radio therefore I don't know the
answer.
    I think that the real problem is one of Self Esteem. Why open ones
mouth only to provide the evidence of stupidity and remove all doubt?



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From: [e-mail] (Eugene Kang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Transceivers in London
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 96 17:50:16 GMT
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Will I run into any problems if I brought two VHF HTs from the US into
London during a holiday? Do I need any permit or letter?

thanks



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From: [e-mail] (Gary Danaher)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: 01 Jan 1996 18:02:35 GMT
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But mail order will save the sales tax.

Like everything else in Texas, the sales tax is king-sized! <g>
Somewhere between 8-9%, last I heard, so the savings would be substantial.


-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM

Well here in Texas, not everything like taxes are as high as you might think.
Sales tax is still in the 7 percent range. Car registration is cheaper than
neighboring states, and I have yet to pay income tax in Texas.  Most of the
other readers of this can't say that, now can they? Things aren't quite as
backward here as you might think. We ARE required to shoe our horses after
all.....



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Kenwood tm742 question!!!
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Hello, i was wondering if the mic connector on the TM-742a
is a standard rj-45 phone connector?

thanks!

david
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
|         David Roseman       |          [e-mail]       OUTTA ORDER!
|                             |          Saucon Valley Sen. HS   |      |
|      SysOp of NODE 3 BBS    |          The Flying HAm - BBS    |      |
|     Running OBV/2 Software  |          Technomage - BBS        |      |
|                             |          N3SQE/1     - HAm       V      |
|                             |  [e-mail] - Packet  |


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From: [e-mail]
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hello, i was wondering what polorization the wefax on 8080 is
i only have a 40m dipole pointing in the wrong direction for the best
reception.  and what is the best way to make an antenna for semi limited space
for 8080?
thanks!

DAvid
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|         David Roseman       |          [e-mail]       OUTTA ORDER!
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|     Running OBV/2 Software  |          Technomage - BBS        |      |
|                             |          N3SQE/1     - HAm       V      |
|                             |  [e-mail] - Packet  |


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Emarit Ranu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Yaseu FT 890at Mod
Date: 1 Jan 1996 18:54:42 GMT
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Hamsome ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anybody have experience with the Yaseu 890at mod to allow transmit on
: all freqs?  Does it work?
: thanks


        Yes, it works fine and is very simple to do.  It involves "soldering"
        (shorting) a jumper and a few key presses.  You can find the mod
        at ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/mods/yaesu

        Good luck.

--
        -Emarit  73's          [e-mail]
        Electrical Engineering, Colorado State Univeristy
        KG0CQ                 _._  __.  _____  _._.  __._
        Packet:                KG0CQ@KF0UW.#NECO.USA.NOAM
        All generalizations are bad.  Censorship:  ######


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:19 1996
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Date: 01 Jan 1996 21:18:00 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Wolf Harranth)
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Brian VE3EX wrote:
> I have heard of a radio that is powered by a windup device.
> It is for the AM Broadcast band and is being made in South Africa.
> Has anyone got any details on this device.
The rig was developed by Trevor Baylis, a UK inventor from Eel Pie Island,
Twickenham. Production of the BayGen receiver just started. I saw and
tested the prototype. A very poor AM and FM receiver for DX - but it is
primarily meant for third world countries. Sales in UK (Harrods) have just
started.
Contact: ByGen Power Company, 89 St. Patrick Road, Johannesburg 2198, Re.
South Africa.

73
Wolf


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From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary R. Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for Windows logging program
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I am looking for a decent logging program to run under windows.  I am not
looking for a contest logging program as I have CT.  I would prefer
share/freeware.  If you know of a goof ftp or web page please drop me a note.

Thanks

Gary KJ4WH
Lakeland, Fl


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From: [e-mail](michael silva)
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Subject: Re: Smart ass? Dumber than dumb
Date: 1 Jan 1996 21:47:22 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus)
writes:
>
>>Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>>: OK if the plate voltage is 100v and grid voltage goes to +100v from
minus
>>: 100v what happens?
>
>Nothing. The tube would be dead already.

Just in the spirit of interesting exotica, the Rad Lab pushed the lowly
6SN7 to as much as +100v on the grid in pulse circuits, yielding ~ 200
mA grid current and 600 mA plate current.

73,
Mike, KK6GM



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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Re: Drew wants them all dead.
Date: 1 Jan 1996 23:15:36 GMT
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Drew is not ALONE. Aids is the best hand clenser for the world ever
developed. Takes care of the sinners, the fags, the druggies, and the
abusers of premarital sex. So i would have to say GOD is also on our side.
LONG LIVE AIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kenneth D. Dool)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Windows logging program
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 23:33:04 GMT
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On Mon, 1 Jan 1996 21:27:50, [e-mail] (Gary R.
Powell) wrote:

>I am looking for a decent logging program to run under windows.  I am not
>looking for a contest logging program as I have CT.  I would prefer
>share/freeware.  If you know of a goof ftp or web page please drop me a note.
>
>Thanks
>
>Gary KJ4WH
>Lakeland, Fl


       Well, Gary, I 've been using A.R.S. Logbook 4.2 for about four
years now with no problems at all.  Give it a try.  Good Luck!

>73 de AB6ZR





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From: [e-mail] (Dbeck7)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cut the crap: Contesting
Date: 1 Jan 1996 23:36:28 -0500
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horsefeathers. it is useful. after contesting for years, to be able to
apply that experience in sorting out messages after the watsonville quake
of '89 was very useful. heres to contesting. 73 de K6ZX


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From: [e-mail] (KA9EGW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Drew wants them all dead.
Date: 1 Jan 1996 23:42:50 -0500
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of course.  you're right.  silly, ignorant me!  i completely overlooked
the fact that (conveniently) AIDS also rids us of those nasty
hemophiliacs, paramedics, physicians, dentists, blood-bank employees and
rape victims (to name the most prominent groups infected by accident).  of
course you right-wing maggots probably have some twisted pseudo-religious
explanation for why those people all deserve to die too.  that must fit in
there with "love the sinner and hate the sin" and "love thy neighbor as
thyself".

how does a redneck who's ever had a blood transfusion reconcile his/her
bigotry with the fact that the blood typing/crossmatching procedure which
made transfusions possible was invented by a black doctor?

(who, incidentally, died of injuries when a whites-only hospital emergency
room wouldn't take him)

so tell me--are brainless bigots like you morons the epitome of no-code
licensees?

i hope not or else amateur radio is doomed.

of course, i'll probably get a ton of flamemail from people too stupid to
recognize that "?" on the end of that sentence means it's a question, not
a statement (the sentence immediately following IS a statement).

Jesus loves you.  Everyone else thinks you're an asshole.


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Meredith)
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy
Date: 2 Jan 1996 01:22:35 GMT
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[e-mail] (Gary Danaher) wrote:
>
>But mail order will save the sales tax.
>
>Like everything else in Texas, the sales tax is king-sized! <g>
>Somewhere between 8-9%, last I heard, so the savings would be
substantial.
>
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM
>
>Well here in Texas, not everything like taxes are as high as you might
think.
>Sales tax is still in the 7 percent range. Car registration is cheaper
than
>neighboring states, and I have yet to pay income tax in Texas.  Most of
the
>other readers of this can't say that, now can they? Things aren't quite
as
>backward here as you might think. We ARE required to shoe our horses
after
>all.....


State sales tax rate is 6.25%, with an additional 1-2% locally.  I was in
the Dallas area last year, and the rate was 8.25%!  But I know what
you're saying about the lack of state income tax.  I once lived in
Florida (and will hopefully be heading back there soon)  No state income
tax there, either.  The tourists pay it all :-)

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Cobra295)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: ALINCO DJ580/582 AA DRY CELL CASE   $10
Date: 2 Jan 1996 01:53:17 -0500
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FOR SALE: ALINCO 580/582 "AA" DRY CELL CASE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---

I have for sale the EDH-6 AA dry cell case to fit the Alinco DJ 580/582
line.
It holds 6 AA alkaline batteries, or could be manipulated to create a
battery
elimanator for the radio.  Reason for selling:  sold the radio long ago,
and
forgot to include this little accessory.  Cost: **$10**, includes shipping
to
48 states.  Prepay required, USPS MO ONLY.  I'll pay shipping on this
item.

If interested:   Email:  [e-mail]
                     Call:     609-275-2965
                     Page:   609-895-7672 (Expect a collect call back for
a
$10 item. :)  )

Do not leave public replies, I don't always catch all the messages in this
newsgroup.

Sean, N2ZJJ


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: EA8/OH?BYB/P Dec. 31 1809Z?
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 02:36:25 -0500
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Rick Kissell <[e-mail]> writes:

>Did anyone work a station signing something like EA8/OH?BYB/P on Dec. 26
>around 1809Z around 18.074 MHz?  I'm trying to get the second numeral in the
>callsign, and a QSL route.
>
>TNX ES 73,

there are some old timer purists who might feel that if you don't have a
complete call sign that you don't have a valid qso to qsl off of. If you
gave it some deep thought, would you agree with that?  .....de N6WR


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From: Robert  Moren <[e-mail]>
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   Burt seems to have elected himself the single representative of the
Radio Licensing Community.
   From reading his effort to impress everyone with his inteligence. He
has displayed a very big ego and an even greater need for the mental
health clinic.
   Thank God for the domocary that we live in. I think that we are seeing
the return of Hilter within the Radio Community.

A Future Ham!



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From: [e-mail] (Richard Lubash)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo and RFI ???
Date: 2 Jan 1996 03:47:29 GMT
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In article <4c6h2b$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Scott Ehrlich) writes:

> I may be purchaseing a Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo in about 6 months, and
> was wondering if there were any known RFI problems with it?

I own a 94 Grand Cherokee and have used it with 2m and 440 equiptment.
The only thing I have noticed is that a HT used in the Jeep can put a
small Hum in the FM radio.

Richard Lubash
N1VXW


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Request via email.
73, K2ENN




From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jason Hanson)
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Subject: Indoor Antenna Help
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 04:04:24 GMT
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18178 rec.radio.amateur.misc:96365

I have an Icom IC-730 with no tuner.  I am trying to hook up some sort
of antenna system to work in my apartment bedroom.   I have purchased
100 ft of speaker wire, figuring I would be able to stretch it out and
pick up something, but I can't get a thing!  I can't even hear WWV for
crying out loud.  :)

What should I do?  The room is very small so I don't think I will be
able to make much of a configuration on the ceiling.  Am I doing
something wrong with the wire?  Would a tuner help?  Can anyone direct
me to an easy/small indoor antenna design on the web, or elsewhere?

Thanks in advance!

--
Jason J. Hanson            |    641 W. Main St. #315    |  [phone]
University of Wisconsin    |   Madison, WI 53703-4711   |  Ham: N9LEA (Extra)
--  [e-mail]   =*++*=   Proud Democrat, Badger fan, speeder  --



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From: [e-mail] (KA9EGW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Drew wants them all dead.
Date: 2 Jan 1996 04:48:43 -0500
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First off, let me say (as a research professional in the hematology [study
of blood] field) that charles1's "statistics" are wildly exaggerated.

Second, you totally missed my point...but I guess irony and sarcasm don't
always play well.  What I was trying to put across was how foolish this
whole Burt/Drew/whatever chickenshit has become.

Sincere apologies to anyone who took my post at face value rather than as
an exercise in irony and sarcasm.  I thought that was evident from the
first sentence.

Now, can we all ignore Burt, Drew and their ilk and get back to radios?


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From: [e-mail] (KA9EGW)
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Subject: PLEASE READ THIS
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First off, let me say (as a research professional in the hematology [study
of blood] field) that charles1's "statistics" are wildly exaggerated.

Second, you totally missed my point...but I guess irony and sarcasm don't
always play well.  What I was trying to put across was how foolish this
whole Burt/Drew/whatever chickenshit has become.

Sincere apologies to anyone who took my post at face value rather than as
an exercise in irony and sarcasm.  I thought that was evident from the
first sentence.

Now, can we all ignore Burt, Drew and their ilk and get back to radios?


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:35 1996
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Can someone please mail me the callsigns used for the following
repeater systems...

147.435/146.40 Los Angeles
147.435/146.40 San Francisco

Thanks!
Justin AB7NG

--
Justin Bousquet - AB7NG
[e-mail] - 449.00-



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Can someone please mail me the callsigns used for the following
repeater systems...

147.435/146.40 Los Angeles
147.435/146.40 San Francisco

Thanks!
Justin AB7NG

--
Justin Bousquet - AB7NG
[e-mail] - 449.00-





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From: Justin Bousquet <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood tm742 question!!!
Date: 2 Jan 1996 05:08:13 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
>Hello, i was wondering if the mic connector on the TM-742a
>is a standard rj-45 phone connector?
>
>thanks!
>
>david

yes



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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: Drew wants them all dead.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4cad4a$[e-mail]>, KA9EGW <[e-mail]> wrote:
>of course.  you're right.  silly, ignorant me!  i completely overlooked
>the fact that (conveniently) AIDS also rids us of those nasty
>hemophiliacs, paramedics, physicians, dentists, blood-bank employees and
>rape victims (to name the most prominent groups infected by accident).  of
>course you right-wing maggots probably have some twisted pseudo-religious
>explanation for why those people all deserve to die too.  that must fit in
>there with "love the sinner and hate the sin" and "love thy neighbor as
>thyself".

While this is TOTALLY off this newsgroup topic, I'll throw in a couple of
facts ... 50% of gay men have HIV. 90% of hemophiliacs have HIV.

>how does a redneck who's ever had a blood transfusion reconcile his/her
>bigotry with the fact that the blood typing/crossmatching procedure which
>made transfusions possible was invented by a black doctor?

You assume rednecks don't like blacks. Fact is, they all wished they
owned one.

>so tell me--are brainless bigots like you morons the epitome of no-code
>licensees?

This is rich. Pot calling the kettle black. Talk about a bigot.
You assume no-coders are brainless bigots. What a hypocrite.

>of course, i'll probably get a ton of flamemail from people too stupid to
>recognize that "?" on the end of that sentence means it's a question, not
>a statement (the sentence immediately following IS a statement).

Its a hypocritical suggestion made by you.



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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wireless weather sensors
Date: 2 Jan 1996 05:28:21 GMT
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Does anyone have information and/or experience with a weather station that
can report weather conditions via radio to the display unit. The distance
does not need to be more than one mile. I've seen the Davis units, but am
not sure if the sensors and the display can be linked by radio some way.
Thanks in advance.
Monte N7TAU


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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Re: super morse
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In article <4c6aom$[e-mail]>,
Jack Yazel <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>I recently replied to a posting about the Super Morse software and
>indicated that it did not work well with faster computers.
>
>I contacted the author and found out that I was trying a very old
>version. He said that the problem is fixed in newer versions.
>
>I have obtained version 4.10 (file: SM410.ZIP from oak.oakland.edu)
>and it appears to work very well.
>
>It seems to be a very good program.
>

SM410.ZIP seemed to have problem with my 486DLC-40 computer.
Sometimes the dashes were a little short and sounded like dots.

MA51N.ZIP, Morse Academy, did not have this problem.



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KA9EGW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Drew wants them all dead.
Date: 2 Jan 1996 06:31:19 -0500
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obviously you can't read--I asked a question and you read it as a
statement and called me a bigot.

Which answers my question.


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From: [e-mail] (Joe BV/N0IAT)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 10m,6m  booming
Date: 2 Jan 1996 10:10:39 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>10m, 6m were booming 25th, 26th, and we'll see about today.
>First time in months for me.
>
>Any reports out there regarding unsual propogation?
>

Heard some very nice African DX on 10 meters while on Penang Island, Malaysia
during the end of the year vacation....too bad I only had a small Grundig port
able
receiver...would have been nice to work a few from 9M2.   Colleagues here in B
V
reported some HOT 10FM openings into JA and VK, but not much East/West stuff.


--
73 from Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT  Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C.
Ex. 7J1AOF(Japan) KA0ZDH(novice) YU3/N0IAT(Slovenia)
Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986 //comments are mine only



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:42 1996
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From: Paul Moller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Yaseu FT 890at Mod
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>
>         Yes, it works fine and is very simple to do.  It involves "soldering
"
>         (shorting) a jumper and a few key presses.  You can find the mod
>         at ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/mods/yaesu
>
>         Good luck.
>
> --
>         -Emarit  73's          [e-mail]
>         Electrical Engineering, Colorado State Univeristy
>         KG0CQ                 _._  __.  _____  _._.  __._
>         Packet:                KG0CQ@KF0UW.#NECO.USA.NOAM
>         All generalizations are bad.  Censorship:  ######

Yes, I have been inside the 890 a few times.  Only trouble is that you
have to watch that you don't pinch wires when you reasemble the radio.
If you worked in the Yaesu factory with somebody telling you the
secrets, and have 4 hands that would help.


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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Drew wants them all dead.
Date: 2 Jan 1996 13:10:10 GMT
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In article <4c8o25$[e-mail]>,
Burt Fisher  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Drew sent me a message where he wished all gays would get AIDS
>and die.

>Now will you hams give Drew the response he deserves?

Nope...my new years resulotion is not to waste time with worthless,
narrow-minded, insulting, name-calling liars.

Besides, dru is taking care of his reputation in this group very nicely
all by himself.

73 all, and happy new year.



--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alex Nemeth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for Call Sign Map
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 13:33:06 -0500
Organization: Cornell University
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Sender: [e-mail] (Verified)
Message-ID: <amn1-0201961333060001@132.236.42.179>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 132

Does anyone have a gif (jpg,dxf,tif) of the map of the US showing how the
FCC has split it into the different numerical call sign prefixes, or
possibily where I might find one??  Sorry I don't remember the proper name
of it.

I've already scanned the arrl infoserver and downloaded all the HAM gifs
from oak.oakland, still nothing.

I really need this in an autocad drawing (dxf) format, but I have the
conversion programs if needed to convert from gif,tif,jpg, etc.

I suppose that I could digitize the one out of the ARRL General class
manual, or scan it,  if need be.



73's

Alex

** Alex Nemeth           :  Senior Microcomputer Specialist
** [e-mail]   :  AutoCad Technical Specialist
** N2YEL (147.180 +) :  College of Human Ecology/
** NYS-EMS CFR         :  Division of Nutritional Science

Computing Services Group
G85 MVR Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca NY, 14853
607.255.1128  - Voice,  607.255.3794  - FAX


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From: [e-mail] (Terry Fugate)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 8080 wefax question <vert or hor>???
Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:33:44 GMT
Organization: IT
Lines: 33
Message-ID: <4cbq9o$[e-mail]>
References: <4c9rts$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.163.120.82
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6

In article <4c9rts$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
>
>hello, i was wondering what polorization the wefax on 8080 is
>i only have a 40m dipole pointing in the wrong direction for the best
>reception.  and what is the best way to make an antenna for semi limited spac
e
>for 8080?
>thanks!
>
>DAvid
>|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
>|         David Roseman       |          [e-mail]       OUTTA ORDER!
>|                             |          Saucon Valley Sen. HS   |      |
>|      SysOp of NODE 3 BBS    |          The Flying HAm - BBS    |      |
>|     Running OBV/2 Software  |          Technomage - BBS        |      |
>|                             |          N3SQE/1     - HAm       V      |
>|                             |  [e-mail] - Packet  |
I think that NAM braodcasts vertical, but it does not make much
difference unless you withen ground wave range.  Here in central Ky, the
polarization is constantly shifting around.  Vertical, rotating around
to near horizoantal then back.  I normally use my 10mtr 1/4 wave ground
plane to receive them.  I use an R2000 with about 15' of coax to the
antenna.
Several years ago I built a real small loop to check out the polarization
of WWV at 5,10 and 15.  Out of general interest I checked out several other
HF sources.  They all have constant polarization shift.
Yea, I know that a 10mtr antenna isn't ideal, but it works.  Several years
ago, a freind told me he was using his radio shack discknoe as a SW antenna.
I told him he was nut, and checked it out.  I still don't beleive it, but
my diskcone works about 3 s-units worse than my former longwire(it and the
tree supporting it, fell during last years ice storm).  I use the 10mtr
for most of my SWing but when I need two receivers,(the 2nd is a Panasonic
RF2200) I use the Diskcone for with R2000 and the 10mtr with the RF2200.
It works pretty darn good.


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From: [e-mail] (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.mature-adult,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.aviation.misc,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: Old Farmer's New Year's Song
Followup-To: alt.romance.mature-adult,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.aviation.misc,rec.food.cooking
Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:45:18 GMT
Organization: Sensor Systems
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Jim Weir ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Farmer Lang wanted to start an antique farm implements store on his
: place down the road a piece.  He went to the local zoning agency at
: the county to get permission to put up a lighted sign for his business
: and was turned down because of zoning.  He appealed to the local board
: and was told:

: Should old ag quaintness be forgot and never have a light
: Should old ag quaintness be forgot and shades on old Lang's sign.

: For old Lang's sign my boys
: For old Lang's sign
: We'll take a vote
: To rock the boat
: And we'll put up old Lang's sign.


There was a man named Mr. Lang,
And he had a neon sign.
And Mr. Lang was very old,
So we called it Old Lang's Sign.


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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.digital.misc,sci.space.shuttle
Subject: SPRE Pre-Launch Orbital Elements
Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:47:22 -0500
Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park
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Message-ID: <4ccclq$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: hertz.isr.umd.edu
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[More info about SPRE at http://w3eax.umd.edu/spre.html]

SPARTAN PACKET RADIO EXPERIMENT (SPRE)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pre-Launch Orbital Elements

By:    Ken McCaughey  (N3FZX)
File:  sore0obs.txt
Date:  18-Dec-95



SPARTAN 206 ORBITAL ELEMENTS
----------------------------

The preliminary orbital elements below may be used to simulate or predict
when SPRE will pass over your location.  It can be loaded into most any
satellite tracking program.  For best results, be sure your simulations
use the dates and time listed in the Mission Summary above.

Note:   These preliminary elements are for Spartan Spacecraft only, not
        the shuttle.  They are subject to change.


Satellite Name:              SPRE-00
Satellite NORAD Number:      #40000  <--(DUMMY VALUE)
Element Set Number:          1
Elements Epoch:              96014.48984950
                              14 JAN 1996 @ 11:45:22.997 UTC
Orbit # at Epoch:            1
Inclination:                 28.4779
RA of Ascend Node:           71.7928
Eccentricity:                .001131
Arg of Perigee:              189.8166
Mean Anomaly:                358.1771
Mean Motion:                 15.85695266
Acceleration/Drag:           .0000177
BSTAR Drag:                  0


Two Line Element (TLE) Format:

SPRE-00
1 40000U SPRE-00  96014.48984950  .00001770  00000-0  00000-0 0    11
2 40000  28.4779  71.7928 0011310 189.8166 358.1771 15.85695266    18




STS-72 ORBITAL ELEMENTS
-----------------------

The following are pre-launch Keplerian elements for STS-72 based on a
nominal launch on January 11, 1996:

Satellite: STS-72
Catalog number: 99972
Epoch time:     96011.41818454
Element set:             1
Inclination:       28.4585 deg
RA of node:        93.5775 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0118687
Arg of perigee:    51.7790 deg
Mean anomaly:     181.0111 deg
Mean motion:   15.62052799 rev/day
Decay rate:     5.0085E-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:               1


Two Line Element (TLE) Format:

STS-72
1 99972U          96011.41818454  .00005009  00000-0  38064-4 0    11
2 99972  28.4585  93.5775 0118687  51.7790 181.0111 15.62052799    16

[STS-72 info via Gary Morris, KK6YB]


The End...



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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Shuttle Air-to-Ground Rebroadcast Information
Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:49:29 -0500
Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park
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Shuttle Mission Info:
---------------------

Info:
        Goddard Amateur Radio Club, WA3NAN, Greenbelt Maryland,
        SAREX Bulletins and Shuttle Retransmissions
        3860 KHz, 7185 KHz, 14,295 KHz, 21,395 KHz, 28,650 KHz
        and 147.45  MHz (FM)

        ARRL Amateur Radio Station, W1AW, Newington, CT
        SAREX News Bulletins
        3990, 7290, 14,290, 18,160, 21,390, and 28,590 KHz
        and 147.555 MHz (FM)

        NASA Spacelink computer information system, Phone:
        [phone] or  via Internet: spacelink.msfc.nasa.gov,
        ARRL BBS [phone]
        JSC ARC BBS [phone], 9600 baud or less.
        GSFC ARC BBS on internet:  wa3nan.gsfc.nasa.gov


WWW Home Pages:
SAREX:          http://www.nasa.gov/sarex/sarex_mainpage.html
ARRL:           http://www.arrl.org/
AMSAT:          http://www.amsat.org
NASA:           http://www.ksc.nasa.gov
SPRE:           http://w3eax.umd.edu/spre.html

Mission bulletins also available on internet via AMSAT ANS and
through your local PBSS.



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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Drew wants them all dead.
Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:51:14 -0500
Organization: Ideamation, Inc.
Lines: 19
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NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly.ideamation.com

In article <[e-mail]>,
        charles copeland <[e-mail]> wrote:

>While this is TOTALLY off this newsgroup topic, I'll throw in a couple of
>facts ... 50% of gay men have HIV. 90% of hemophiliacs have HIV.

Do you have sources for those two statistics? Both, especially the
latter, seem awfully high.

Also keep in mind that one of the two classifications you listed
above involves a lifestyle choice (engaging in high-risk behaviours),
while the other involves a life/death choice (receiving a blood
transfusion).

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 2 Jan 1996 18:10:59 GMT
Organization: MicroBurst
Lines: 24
Message-ID: <4cbsfj$lqe$[e-mail]>
References: <4cb48m$[e-mail]>

>Reading this thread it sounds more like the War Zone
>on Forty I used to hear when I lived in LA and it
>saddens me somewhat to see what my
>hobby has sank too. Lighten up Chaps and enjoy
>73 Alan G3kfn

>73 Alan Baker G3KFN
>Plymouth, England

Hi Alan,

Actually the hobby hasn't sunk anywhere. These "folks" are
so busy trading insults on internet that they really don't
have time to be on the air. Forty is actually a pretty nice
band these days!

73, de Hans, K0HB
Plymouth, Minnesota

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:53 1996
Date: 2 Jan 1996 18:49:24 EDT
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Hugh Duff)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: HumberNet LSS, Humber College, Canada
References: <4c9rqf$[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Kenwood tm742 question!!!
Lines: 20


> Hello, i was wondering if the mic connector on the TM-742a
> is a standard rj-45 phone connector?
>
> thanks!
>
> david
> |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
> |         David Roseman       |          [e-mail]       OUTTA ORDER!




Yes it is a standard 8 pin RJ-45 plug.

Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto


---
 ■ NFX v1.3 [000]


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From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.space
Subject: Can you pass the MOCK RAE?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 21:21:28 GMT
Organization: innotts.co.uk
Lines: 26
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
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At the risk of getting flamed for self-publicity, I've added a MOCK
Radio Amateurs' Exam to my pages to lighten them up a bit.

Anyone who's had to suffer the awfulness of our UK City and Guilds -
a nightmare of formality and silly legislation - will perhaps get a
laugh out of this send-up.

But will you pass it   ?????  I dare you to find out!

Link thro' my homepage:

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/


A sincere thanks to all from this newsgroup who have recently mailed
me.  Happy New Year!






Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Homepage: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:47:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Biekert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Amateur radio home pages
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 21:25:07 GMT
Organization: KA5GLX
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <4cc7rj$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial147.phoenix.net
X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3
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The Clear Lake ARC has had a www page for a year now..

http://www.phoenix.net/~biekert/index.html

73 Bob


Bob Biekert  Houston, Texas
WorldWide Merchants http://www.texas.com/~wwm


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Announcing: DXtreme Station Log Freeware DEMO
Date: 2 Jan 1996 21:30:04 GMT
Organization: DXtreme Software
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <4cc84s$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-nas-nh1-19.ix.netcom.com
X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Jan 02  1:30:04 PM PST 1996
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6

Announcing the Freeware Demo Version of the
DXtreme Amateur Radio Station Log System(tm) Version 2.0

A freeware Demo version of DXtreme(tm) is now available for your evaluation.
Access
the DXtreme Home Page for more information:

http://www.geopages.com/TimesSquare/1702/

DXtreme lets you enter your contacts and track the DXCC performance of your st
ation.
It is designed for PC/AT-compatibles running an 80386DX or better processor an
d
MS-DOS 5.0 or greater.

Happy New Year and 73,

Bob Raymond, NE1I
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this Newsgroup?
Date: 2 Jan 1996 21:50:59 -0500
Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

Avery Russell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: For months now I have been following the message threads on this
: Newsgroup. Instead of meaningful discussion regarding ANY number of
: aspects of amateur radio, it appears that this is nothing more than a
: sounding board for people to trash one another. This newsgroup is brought
: to you by incredible technology. Why not use it for constructive
: meaningful discussion? I don't get it. Of course, I can only imagine, let
: the flames begin.
: Greetings for a very good new year.

   It is a pity that the bandwidth is being wasted, but I find the
subject or author entries are sufficient to keep me from wasting
time and blood pressure on most of the material.  And, as some
have observed on the newsgroup, what about eighty meter phone?
   73 and Happy New Year

Gerry K8EF



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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hey you Burt-bashers! Read this!
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 21:52:23 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Lines: 8
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4c46aa$[e-mail]> <4c4uvm$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com
X-To: Dave Bushong <[e-mail]>

Dave, many thanks for the most lucid and meaningful putdown I've read to date!
We're all impressed, not only with the your statement of the facts and the
argument(s) you put forth to back them, but also with the quality of the
narrative.  Excellent work.  To paraphrase a wiser man than I with regard to
burt, "Me thinks he doth protest too much!"
-
73 de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
[e-mail]


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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 147.435 Repeaters in CA
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 22:02:00 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com
X-To: Justin Bousquet <[e-mail]>

The call sign of the LA 147.435 repeater is AA6TK.  Known as the "Animal Farm"
repeater, it serves a wide area of the Pacific coast from San Diego to Santa
Barbara.  The machine used to be located on Mt. Wilson but no longer perched
there.  Roy Tucker, N6TK, is the chief control operator for the machine which
bears his wife's call sign.
     Hope that is of some help to you.
-
73 de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Stillwater, NY
[e-mail]


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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: "This Week in Amateur Radio" to Return to Satellite Air
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 96 22:05:59 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Lines: 43
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com

     An agreement has been reached between the "Tech Talk Network"
and operators of the Telesat Canada Anik E2 commercial
communications satellite.  All communications hobby programming of
TTN including "This Week in Amateur Radio", will return to the air
in January.  The agreement awaits formal signing by the uplink
carrier and SKYVISION, which underwrites the network uplink costs.
     "This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly on-the-air bulletin
service in audio newsmagazine format.  The service carries ARRL and
RAC bulletins, contest and convention information, propagation
forecast summaries, RAIN, the Radio Amateur Information Network,
the Amateur Radio Newsline, and other features on over 100 nets and
repeaters throughout North America.
     Once the agreement is signed, telephone lines will be secured
and installation of the network audio uplink equipment can proceed.
The network will utilize transponder 18, (9B vertical), at 5.8 MHz
wideband analog audio (4.06 GHz).  Anik E2 is located at 107.3
degrees west longitude in equatorial geosynchronous orbit and
provides excellent coverage of North America with spot beams aimed
at Alaska and Hawaii.  But the best part is that Anik E2 is
expected to remain operational into the 21st century and provide a
more permanent home for the network.
     "This Week in Amateur Radio" is produced by Community Video
Associates, Inc., a New York State not-for-profit corporation based
in Albany, NY.  Production and transmission expenses are
underwritten by donations from repeater operators, amateur radio
clubs, and individuals.  Further information is available from
George Bowen, N2LQS, at 518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or
Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB, at 518/664-6809 (e-mail sanderman@
delphi.com).  You may also reach them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA
via amateur packet.
     Look for "This Week in Amateur Radio" to return to the air
Saturdays at 8:00 PM (EST) early in 1996.  Affiliates are asked to
please acknowledge receipt of this bulletin.
-
Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB - Executive Producer
ARRL Eastern New York Section Bulletin Manager
P O Box 8592
Academy Station
Albany, NY  12208-0592
518/664-6809
-
packet: WA3RKB @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA
e-mail: [e-mail]


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From: Avery Russell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What's with this Newsgroup?
Date: 2 Jan 1996 23:46:41 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service [e-mail] 703-448-4470
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For months now I have been following the message threads on this
Newsgroup. Instead of meaningful discussion regarding ANY number of
aspects of amateur radio, it appears that this is nothing more than a
sounding board for people to trash one another. This newsgroup is brought
to you by incredible technology. Why not use it for constructive
meaningful discussion? I don't get it. Of course, I can only imagine, let
the flames begin.
Greetings for a very good new year.



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:48:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Leaf)
Subject: For Sale Yaesu FT-790R II 70cm all mode portable
Sender: [e-mail]
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 For sale Yasesu FT-790R II 70cm all mode portable
 $750 CDN or equivalent in US$ currently 38% = $465 US
 Also willing to trade this for Yaesu FT-690R II 6M all mode portable.

 You may respond via e-mail but I am not the seller.
 Seller is Don (VE7MDX) phone [phone]

--
Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ CN89os
[e-mail]
Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Mountain DX Club - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before"
Coming up Summer '96 DX-pedition to rare grid CO80, on 6M, 2M & 70cm


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From: [e-mail] (Scott Leaf)
Subject: Wanted Yaesu FT-690RII 6M allmode portable
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Wanted Yaesu FT-690R II 6M all mode portable.
Willing to trade Yasesu FT-790R II 70cm all mode portable

 You may respond via e-mail but I am not the seller.
 Seller is Don (VE7MDX) phone [phone]

--
Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ CN89os
[e-mail]
Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Mountain DX Club - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before"
Coming up Summer '96 DX-pedition to rare grid CO80, on 6M, 2M & 70cm


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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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[e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman) wrote:


Steve, I have two words for you: Prune Juice.



>//jbaltz
>jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
>[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


Hmmmm?  Too much mercury in your gold fish lately Jerry? :o)

Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo and RFI ???
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 03:00:58 GMT
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[e-mail] (KF2TI) wrote:

>In article <4c85jf$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(Stephan Rashkin) writes:

>>I have a 1995 Jeep Cherokee Sport with straight six..absolutely no
>>ignition noise or any other type of electrical problems on HF or
>>VHF 144/220...on mine anyway..I ran shielded power cables through
>>convenient grommet to passenger compartment..
>>
>>

>I also have a friend with a Cherokee Sport...we grounded everything.  The
>power cables for VHF and HF are coaxial cable with the center condustor as
>hot and the outer braid as ground.  no noise at all.

>I have another friend with an 1994 Grand Cherokee..no noise, but when he
>TX 2 meters on high power, the rear wiper activates.  the antenna is in
>the rear of the vehicle.  at this point no idea what to do to remedy


Steve,
Only have him use 2 meter high power when it rains :o>

Steve, WA2NHZ




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From: [e-mail] (Jason D. Triolo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Mid-Atlantic Hamfests
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 05:21:41 GMT
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[e-mail] (Chris Smolinski) wrote:

>I used to keep a schedule online of upcoming hamfests in the Mid-Atlantic
>(roughly Northern Virginia to New York) area. I'd like to do the same
>thing this upcoming hamfest season.

>I would appreciate it if anyone who knows of an upcoming hamfest would
>email me with the details, and I'll add it to the list.

>Even though hamfest season is still some time away, it's never too early
>to start!

Well...about 90 miles south of Metro DC is the annual Frostfest in
Richmond.

Held at the Showplace...3000 Mechanicsville Tpk, Richmond, VA
Sunday, 1/21/96 from 8:30 to 3:30.

Take I-95 south to I-64 East (Exit 75) to US 360 East (Exit 192).
Showplace is 1/2 mile on the left.
Parking is free, admission is $5.00. No discounts for advance tickets.
Licensing exams are usually conducted the day before. Not sure what is
planned for this year.

Info is available through the voice mail service of the Richmond
Amateur Telecommunications Society at 804/739-2269. Enter box number
3378 (FEST) for general information and table reservations.

Major retailers are expected there (most notably HRO, but there are
many others), a number of manufacturers (not sure who has committed
yet), and ample flea market space. Computer vendors will also be
there.

Hope to see you there!

E-Mail me if you need more info.
73 de Jason, KD4ACG
[e-mail]



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From: Frank Connelly <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Drew wants them all dead.
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On 1 Jan 1996, KA9EGW wrote:

> of course.  you're right.  silly, ignorant me!  i completely overlooked
> the fact that (conveniently) AIDS also rids us of those nasty
> hemophiliacs, paramedics, physicians, dentists, blood-bank employees and
> rape victims (to name the most prominent groups infected by accident).  of
> course you right-wing maggots probably have some twisted pseudo-religious
> explanation for why those people all deserve to die too.  that must fit in
> there with "love the sinner and hate the sin" and "love thy neighbor as
> thyself".
>
> how does a redneck who's ever had a blood transfusion reconcile his/her
> bigotry with the fact that the blood typing/crossmatching procedure which
> made transfusions possible was invented by a black doctor?
>
> (who, incidentally, died of injuries when a whites-only hospital emergency
> room wouldn't take him)
>
> so tell me--are brainless bigots like you morons the epitome of no-code
> licensees?
>
> i hope not or else amateur radio is doomed.
>
> of course, i'll probably get a ton of flamemail from people too stupid to
> recognize that "?" on the end of that sentence means it's a question, not
> a statement (the sentence immediately following IS a statement).
>
> Jesus loves you.  Everyone else thinks you're an asshole.
>
>
I'd love to reply in detail, but I've got to scurry on down
to my travel agency to book a heavy guilt trip for being
a white male.

You're as screwed up as the guy you were replying to.

Just goes to show there are bigots on both sides of the fence.



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From: [e-mail] (Jason D. Triolo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Re: Yaesu FT530 vs. Icom IC-W21AT (also WTB: used HT)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 07:09:11 GMT
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[e-mail] (David Lee) wrote:

>I'm also interested in purchasing a used dual-band HT (2m, 70cm) or used 2m
>HT so if you have one in excellent condition that you'd like to sell
>please send me e-mail.

I have a Kenwood TH-79 with all the trimmings:

5w battery pack
3w double-life battery pack
alkaline pack
MFJ speaker/mic
2-pack rapid charger (75min on 5w pack, 90min on dbl-life pack)
antenna
soft case

Radio has 80 memories +2 calls. Aside from 2 calls (one on each band),
the 80 channels can be distributed between the two bands as you need
them. It's not necessarily 40 per band. All channels can be labeled
with a 7-character alphanumeric ID.

PL encode/decode also included.

If interested, make offer. E-mail please, to [e-mail]

73 de Jason, KD4ACG




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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V95 #1218
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In a message dated 96-01-02 23:22:33 EST, you write:

>Bob (VE7OR)" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (no subject)
>
>Has any-one received a certificate for the CQ-50 Awards?
>
>             de Bob VE7OR

Bob, I received the initial certificate but nothing as far as
endorsements...maybe they were waiting for 1996 to arrive to compile all the
endorsement data...Hopefully you'll get yours soon!
73 de Tom/N3PGG


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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: mods for alinco 6 mtr????
Date: 3 Jan 1996 14:07:23 GMT
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HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been looking for mods on the alinco 6mtr mobile for 6 months now.
anybody have them.
thanks
jeff



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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Subject: Re: What's with this Newsgroup?
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Avery Russell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: For months now I have been following the message threads on this
: Newsgroup. Instead of meaningful discussion regarding ANY number of
: aspects of amateur radio, it appears that this is nothing more than a
: sounding board for people to trash one another. This newsgroup is brought
: to you by incredible technology. Why not use it for constructive
: meaningful discussion? I don't get it. Of course, I can only imagine, let
: the flames begin.
: Greetings for a very good new year.

This is the typical Usenet news now that Usenet is carried by so many
providers that DON'T CARE who or what they issue accounts to.  Back in
the old days of Usenet a flame was for a true LID.  The same thing has
happend to Usenet that happend to CB radio.  It is exactly what happend
to CB.  Think about the history of both.  Ham radio in general is heading
in that direction too.  It's just happening slower.  Hams are a little
smarter than Usenet guru's.  Hams put a "high tech" system on the air and
leave figuring it out to the users.  If the users can't figure it out, they
go away.  With Usenet too many books are written on how to use it.  Now any
one that can read, can trash the net. :-)

The best way to use the net these days is to screen what you read.  You can
tell by the subjects who and what is posted.  Yes, it takes longer to read
news but at least the heart ache is less.  I guess thats why the call it the
misc group :-)


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From: [e-mail] (Eddy J. Gurney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ACC RC-850 repeater controller mailing list?
Date: 3 Jan 1996 14:46:08 GMT
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Is there a mailing list discussion group for the ACC RC-850
repeater controller? I'm curious if anyone has come up with
any "nifty" mods for the controller, new ID ideas, problems,
etc. Our club has one, but we're always looking for new and
exciting things to do with it.

I searched the web via Yahoo and didn't find anything related
to ACC or the RC-850...

73,
Eddy N8FPW <[e-mail]>


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From: [e-mail] (Link Communications)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ACC RC-850 repeater controller mailing list?
Date: 3 Jan 1996 16:00:53 GMT
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In article <4ce4rg$[e-mail]>, Eddy J. Gurney <[e-mail]> wrote
:
>Is there a mailing list discussion group for the ACC RC-850
>repeater controller? I'm curious if anyone has come up with
>any "nifty" mods for the controller, new ID ideas, problems,
>etc. Our club has one, but we're always looking for new and
>exciting things to do with it.
>
>I searched the web via Yahoo and didn't find anything related
>to ACC or the RC-850...

As most of you probably know, ACC is no longer in business.  We have
purchased rights to their software for the RC-96 and RC-85 and can
photocopy their manuals.  Since the RC-850 was discontinued before
ACC closed their doors, we did not receive anything for it except the
Inspector program.  It is now available on our ftp site (ftp.netins.net
in directory showcase/linkcomm/acc).  We also have a listserver for
discussion of ACC's and our repeater controllers.  To subscribe to the
listserver, send a message to:

[e-mail]

In the body of the text it must only have, all lower case.

subscribe link

You should receive an automated reply indicating that your subscription
request was successful.

To send information to the people on the list you must send mail to:

[e-mail].

Steve Strobel
Link Communications, Inc.
[e-mail]
[phone]


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From: [e-mail] (John Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best system for urban simplex communications???
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 16:07:47 GMT
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On Wed, 03 Jan 1996 03:39:00 GMT [e-mail] (Larry Brown) wrote:

>I'm looking for the best and most economical way for mobile simplex
>communications in an urban environment over about a 25 mile range. My
>wife and I currently use 2m at about 30 watts and 1/4 wave antennas.
>This has worked fine for the last few years over a range of about 10
>miles. My new job has a longer commute and this gives rise to an
>increase in needed range.

>We're not interested in bothering others chatting for 20 minutes on a
>repeater, and I'm sure nobody wants to listen to us either. I've got
>an Explorer with the antenna on the roof. A larger antenna won't work
>well since I need to park in the garage. Our car could handle a larger
>antenna though.

>I was thinking of  three options:

>1) 10 meter radios
>2) Increase power for both 2m radios and improve car antenna.
>3) Build small private pl controlled repeater and install tall antenna
>at our house.

>Any comments? I imagine option 1 would be the least expensive. Would a
>couple of 25w 10m radios provide the range? I've got no experience
>with 10m.

>Thanks, Larry,  n6txx
>Larry
>[e-mail]


Options 2 and 3 are probably better bets if it's urban.  I've found that 6
and 10 meters have much better groundwave characteristics than 2 meters,
but if there are a lot of buildings in the way, it may be a problem.  UHF
seems to do a little better getting around in an urban area.  10 or 6 give
great groundwave outside of the city.

For an inexpensive repeater solution, you might look for a cheap dual band
mobile, and set it on a building top somewhere.  One of you then runs UHF
simplex to it, and the other runs 2 meter simplex to it.  Since you won't
need a repeater duplexer and other associated expensive equipment, it
should be a lot cheaper.  Don't forget to pick up one of those $50 CW-ID
boards for the dualband repeater to keep things legal!

Good luck!
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From: Andrew C Robertson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dave proves he has no life.
Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:00:57 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Putting me down raises you up?

This question is more than just a little ironic, coming from someone who
constantly displays their own contempt by putting down hams for having
differing interests.

drewbob   aa1hx




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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: skywarn
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 96 19:19:18 -0500
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Request address for skywarn listserver, for subscription.  Tnx , ,73


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From: [e-mail] (Ken Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dave proves he has no life.
Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:30:05 GMT
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In article <4ceco9$[e-mail]>, Andrew C Robertson <drewbob
@mit.edu> writes:
|> [e-mail] wrote:
|> >
|> > Putting me down raises you up?
|>
|> This question is more than just a little ironic, coming from someone who
|> constantly displays their own contempt by putting down hams for having
|> differing interests.
|>
|> drewbob   aa1hx
|>
|>


Please do not try to point out the obvious, burt only will throw yet another
tantrum and waste even more net bandwidth.
--
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Ken M. Edwards, PE  Bell Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
[phone] email: [e-mail]    Ham: N4ZBB   Packet: [e-mail]
DX PacketCluster (tm) Node : W4DW

All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of
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From: "Neil A. Gjere" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.engr.television.broadcast
Subject: HELP!! Ham Needs WR-42 Waveguide Components
Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:30:51 GMT
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I am in desperate need of a 50 or 60 db WR-42 fixed Waveguide attenuator
as well as a 0 to 40 or 50 db WR-42 variable Waveguide attenuator.

These are being used to set up some 18 Ghz Microwave Radios. My usual
source for these type of components has gotten out of the as they put it,
"Plumbing Business"

I only need them for a short period of time, I will pay for shipping in
both directions and will reward you both financially and with unending
gratitude!!!

Please respond via:
[e-mail]

73s
Neil A. Gjere
N0PFZ



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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Windows logging program
Date: 3 Jan 1996 21:12:02 -0500
Organization: Daniel Senie Consulting
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NNTP-Posting-Host: peanut.iii.net
Keywords: windows logging

In article <4cbbh7$[e-mail]>, Clay Irving <[e-mail]> wrote:
)In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary
R. Powell) writes:
)
)>I am looking for a decent logging program to run under windows.  I am not
)>looking for a contest logging program as I have CT.  I would prefer
)>share/freeware.  If you know of a goof ftp or web page please drop me a note
.
)
)Check the "Products and Suppliers" or "FTP Sites" sections of the Amateur
)Radio Reference, http://www.panix.com/clay/ham/

Did you have specific products or FTP sites in mind, or were you just
advertising your pages? Your pages are certainly nice, and I'll browse them
some more later, but your post really didn't answer the original question,
and the pages you pointed to don't either.

Dan
--
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Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best system for urban simplex communications???
Date: 3 Jan 1996 21:38:25 -0500
Organization: Daniel Senie Consulting
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NNTP-Posting-Host: peanut.iii.net

In article <4ce9c5$[e-mail]>,
John Wagner <[e-mail]> wrote:
)On Wed, 03 Jan 1996 03:39:00 GMT [e-mail] (Larry Brown) wrote:
)
)>I'm looking for the best and most economical way for mobile simplex
)>communications in an urban environment over about a 25 mile range. My
)>wife and I currently use 2m at about 30 watts and 1/4 wave antennas.
)>This has worked fine for the last few years over a range of about 10
)>miles. My new job has a longer commute and this gives rise to an
)>increase in needed range.
)
)>We're not interested in bothering others chatting for 20 minutes on a
)>repeater, and I'm sure nobody wants to listen to us either. I've got
)>an Explorer with the antenna on the roof. A larger antenna won't work
)>well since I need to park in the garage. Our car could handle a larger
)>antenna though.
)
)>I was thinking of  three options:
)
)>1) 10 meter radios
)>2) Increase power for both 2m radios and improve car antenna.
)>3) Build small private pl controlled repeater and install tall antenna
)>at our house.
)
)>Any comments? I imagine option 1 would be the least expensive. Would a
)>couple of 25w 10m radios provide the range? I've got no experience
)>with 10m.

I've another idea. Consider trying 2 meter SSB. You'll find it's got plenty
of range for your needs, with 25 watt radios and sqloop antenna on the car(s).

10 meters would also be worth playing with, on SSB.

Finally, do some more playing with the 2 meter mobiles you have, using better
antennas.

--
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Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Form 610 without license
Date: 3 Jan 1996 22:40:53 -0500
Organization: Daniel Senie Consulting
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References: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: peanut.iii.net

In article <[e-mail]>, Don Christine <[e-mail]> wrote:
)Hello,
)
)I want to submit Form 610 to get a new callsign (I've moved
)to Washington state from the midwest), but seem to have lost
)my license.  Can I submit the Form 610 to get a new callsign
)without attaching my license?

Yes. The FCC can handle this. Or at least they would if anyone was working.
When (if) the bozos in Washington DC (they all seem to qualify either
directly or by association), you should be able to get it taken care
of. I believe the instructions on the full-sized 610 (the one with the
instruction sheets still attached) explains the procedure.

--
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Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (PETER Q. GEORGE, N1GGP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: 3 JAN 96 23:11:21 GMT
Organization: WELLESLEY COLLEGE
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     I have been hearing the same amateur radio bulletin now for the last
two weeks.  A station licensed as K1MAN seems to be providing a broadcast
service...day in and day out in the middle of the VERY PRECIOUS AM window
in and about 3885 (plus or minus a few KCs).  I am totally for amateur radio
bulletins. They DO provide a much needed service to the amateur service.
But broadcasting for hours at a time with the same taped programming hour
after hour seems to be a little redundant or if not.... very illegal.  I
am sure the IARN provides help to those who need it.  But I tend to think
that monopolizing the 80 meter AM window is not right, not in the least.
Once in the morning, once in the evening is fine.  But 10 hours a day ?
Come on, Glen.


Peter Q. George (N1GGP)
Randolph, Massachusetts
"AM is ALIVE.......on 3885 !"


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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: Gordon R Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Utah statehood celebration
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:49:26 -0800
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:49:26 -0800
From: Gordon R Smith <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Utah statehood celebration

     On January 4, 1996 the State of Utah will celebrate its centennial
anniversary.  To commemorate this event the Utah Amateur Radio Club (UARC)
will operate W7SP from 1600Z to 2300Z on January 6, 1996.  Operation will be
from the State Capitol and will take place on or about 14.196 MHz.

     The history of Utah is as unique as its geography is diverse.  Utah
residents enjoy terrain that ranges from barren deserts to spectacular
mountains.  The first explorers entered the area that was to become the
"Beehive" State in the late 1700's.  By the mid 1800's settlements existed in
the territory.  Major settlement began when the first Mormon pioneers arrived
in the Salt Lake Valley in July of 1847.  In the following decades more settle
rs
arrived by the thousands.  Today Utah has grown to include several modern
cities with Salt Lake City as its Capitol.

     UARC invites you join us in this commemorative event.  For QSL send
QSL and SASE to UARC, 2671 Dolphin Way, Salt Lake City, UT  84121.


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From: [e-mail] (Gordon R Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Utah statehood special event station
Date: 3 Jan 1996 23:54:59 -0800
Organization: Portal Communications (shell)
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Keywords: UTAH STATEHOOD AWARD SPECIAL-EVENT


     On January 4, 1996 the State of Utah will celebrate its centennial
anniversary.  To commemorate this event the Utah Amateur Radio Club (UARC)
will operate W7SP from 1600Z to 2300Z on January 6, 1996.  Operation will be
from the State Capitol and will take place on or about 14.196 MHz.

     The history of Utah is as unique as its geography is diverse.  Utah
residents enjoy terrain that ranges from barren deserts to spectacular
mountains.  The first explorers entered the area that was to become the
"Beehive" State in the late 1700's.  By the mid 1800's settlements existed in
the territory.  Major settlement began when the first Mormon pioneers arrived
in the Salt Lake Valley in July of 1847.  In the following decades more settle
rs
arrived by the thousands.  Today Utah has grown to include several modern
cities with Salt Lake City as its Capitol.

     UARC invites you join us in this commemorative event.  For QSL send
QSL and SASE to UARC, 2671 Dolphin Way, Salt Lake City, UT  84121.

 -Gordon, K7HFV



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From: [e-mail](Dave Bushong )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this Newsgroup?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 00:24:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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Message-ID: <4cf6na$[e-mail]>
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X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jan 03  4:24:10 PM PST 1996

In <4ccg51$[e-mail]> Avery Russell <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>For months now I have been following the message threads on this
>Newsgroup. Instead of meaningful discussion regarding ANY number of
>aspects of amateur radio, it appears that this is nothing more than a
>sounding board for people to trash one another.

You are right.  It's been worse the last year or so, since posting
privileges have been made available to more and more of the general
public.  But this newsgroup isn't unique - many of the other ones are
the same way.  That's why mailing lists - "reflectors" - are becoming
more popular.  People don't tend to be as rude when they know that they
are e-mailing a message to dozens/hundreds, whereas here, it's more
like spraying grafitti on a wall, with no recriminations.

You might or might not be referring, as part of your comment about
'trashing', to a posting I recently made.  The only thing it had to do
with ham radio was that a certain individual was going around here
looking for a fight and saying that all hams were stupid.  I regret
that I had the unfortunate experience of dealing with this particular
person, but I thought I might share my experiences with anyone who
might be interested, hopefully to save their time.  It won't happen
again, as I have made it so that I don't see anything that he spews.
That's that.

But it's over with.... I agree with you: let's use this technology to
expand this already-fascinating hobby!

What do we do next, Avery?

73,
Dave KZ1O



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From: [e-mail](Dave Bushong )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hey you Burt-bashers! Read this!
Date: 4 Jan 1996 00:24:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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Message-ID: <4cf6nk$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]> <4c46aa$[e-mail]> <4c4uvm$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-nas-nh1-01.ix.netcom.com
X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jan 03  4:24:20 PM PST 1996

In <[e-mail]> Stephan M. Anderman
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>Dave, many thanks for the most lucid and meaningful putdown I've read
to date!
>We're all impressed, not only with the your statement of the facts and
the
>argument(s) you put forth to back them, but also with the quality of
the
>narrative.  Excellent work.  To paraphrase a wiser man than I with
regard to
>burt, "Me thinks he doth protest too much!"
>-
>73 de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB

Thanks, Stephan.  Like I said, I couldn't believe that one person could
generate so much ill will, but after going a few rounds with him, I
realized that he's just a bully whom I don't have time for.

I hope others can use my experience to save them time in the future.

73,
Dave



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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: SIMPLE SIMPLEX REPEATER....HELP
Date: 4 Jan 1996 00:33:55 GMT
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I recently built the simple simplex repeater as described in 73 Amateur
Radio Today, nov 1995 issue but i have one problem that i need help
resolving. if the receiver receives a signal for about one half second or
less, the simplex repeater keys up for the entire 20 second period then
drops out. any received signal more than about a half second operates it
correctly. example: if the receiver receives a signal for 5 seconds,
after the rec signal drops, it then retransmits this signal for 5 seconds
and then resets or drops out. it is only the very quick keying pulses
that lock this thing up.

the repeater is based on the ISD1000A voice record/playback IC which can
be found at radio shack and about 30 simple parts. this chip is designed
to record a maximun of 20 seconds.

there are 2 rc delay circuits which i have tried to adjust but this does
not seem to help.  I dont think the problem is power related as i have a
good supply, and plenty of filtering and bypassing on it.
If anyone can help, please email me at [e-mail]

thanks,
Tom  WA5KUB
email: [e-mail]



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:48:32 1996
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From: [e-mail](Dave Bushong )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dave proves he has no life.
Date: 4 Jan 1996 00:49:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jan 03  4:49:46 PM PST 1996

In <4ceco9$[e-mail]> Andrew C Robertson
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> Putting me down raises you up?
>
>This question is more than just a little ironic, coming from someone
who
>constantly displays their own contempt by putting down hams for having

>differing interests.
>

Putting burt down, with his room-temperature IQ, is as easy, and as
accidental as falling off a log.

Especially since the original statement was "Hell, you probably don't
know [an electronics question]" and finally, he posted his retraction
apologizing to all the "stupid hams" who "didn't know the answer."
Meanwhile, he cast aspersions on me, my heritage, my masculinity, even
my testicular count, my age, my favorite hobby, he compared me to
Hitler, he challenged me to an on-the-air cussing session to see if my
'mouth is quick.'

And I need to get a life?

I feel sad for burt.

I feel sad that he purposes to teach electronics but doesn't know what
a transistor is; I feel sad that he posts to the world his ignorance; I
feel sad that he lashes out at a total stranger, just like the guy who
blew up the Federal building in Oklahoma, or the guy who poisoned
Tylenol; I feel sad that he is preoccupied with my "balls" or how
"quick" an anonymous male's mouth is (who knows, maybe if he spent more
time thinking about women, he'd still be married); I am sad that he
casts aspersions on someone because of his age, just like Abbie Hoffman
did once; I am sad that he is so interested in seeing his own postings
and how many followups he can generate, that he doesn't even engage his
"brain", or what's left of it after the pharmacological 70's that he
barely remembers; I'm sad that he wants to fill the airwaves (if he
even gets on the air these days) with cussing and posturing - while I
know what the outcome would be - instead of trying to fix what he
bemoans is going down the tubes.

I feel sad for burt.



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:48:33 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 96 01:09:00 -0600
Subject: Re: ACC RC-850 repeater controller mailing list?
References: <4ce4rg$[e-mail]>
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==========================================================================

ED> Is there a mailing list discussion group for the ACC RC-850
ED> repeater controller? I'm curious if anyone has come up with
ED> any "nifty" mods for the controller, new ID ideas, problems,
ED> etc. Our club has one, but we're always looking for new and
ED> exciting things to do with it.

ED> I searched the web via Yahoo and didn't find anything related
ED> to ACC or the RC-850...

ED> 73,
ED> Eddy N8FPW <[e-mail]>


I don't know if a mailing list has been assembled, except by ACC; and I
could not speculate about whether it was sold along with the other
equipment to their successor.

If you want to create a mailing list, you can put me on it.  I have an
850 on my repeater.

     Regards, TOM BLACKWELL, N5GAR, PO Box 25403, Dallas, Texas 75225
              [e-mail]                SGL-North Texas
                      The NTPCUG's TI PRO BBS lives at [phone]

---
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ ...  ((((( This message in STEREO where available )))))



From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:48:34 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Nancy you really like this guy?.
Date: 4 Jan 1996 01:36:44 GMT
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Message-ID: <4cfavc$[e-mail]>
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[e-mail](Dave Bushong ) wrote:

>Putting burt down, with his room-temperature IQ, is as easy, and as
>accidental as falling off a log.

There you go again with more low class insults.


>Especially since the original statement was "Hell, you probably don't
>know [an electronics question]" and finally, he posted his retraction
>apologizing to all the "stupid hams" who "didn't know the answer."
>Meanwhile, he cast aspersions on me, my heritage, my masculinity, even
>my testicular count, my age, my favorite hobby, he compared me to
>Hitler, he challenged me to an on-the-air cussing session to see if my
>'mouth is quick.'

You know there is actually a bit of truth in the ranting above.
But it would be nice to quote me so we do not have to look
with a tweezers to find the bit of truth.
I think I did say the bit about a quick mouth.


>I feel sad that he purposes to teach electronics but doesn't know what
>a transistor is; I feel sad that he posts to the world his ignorance; I
>feel sad that he lashes out at a total stranger, just like the guy who
Mucho BS deleted
>I feel sad for burt.

Boy you really have a problem with all the venom you poured out on me.
On and on you went and you feel sad for me, now that is sad.
I cannot understand how a decent person like Nancy can read your venom
and like you. EVEN IF I WERE ALL THE THINGS YOU ACCUSE ME of what does it
say about YOU that you say them?

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)




From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:48:35 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Don Christine)
Subject: Form 610 without license
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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 02:04:29 GMT
Lines: 12

Hello,

I want to submit Form 610 to get a new callsign (I've moved
to Washington state from the midwest), but seem to have lost
my license.  Can I submit the Form 610 to get a new callsign
without attaching my license?

Thanks in advance,
Don Christine
NY9S




From Unknown Fri Jan 05 11:48:40 1996
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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ACC RC-850 repeater controller mailing list?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 02:44:05 GMT
Organization: ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities
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Message-ID: <4cfetl$63m$[e-mail]>

Steve maybe a Internet newsgroup would be a nice place to have some ACC/Linkco
m
discussion......
also have a question.....Paul N5TNS just ought a RLC3 from you...if I mod his
audio for my flat mods with the unit still in warranty, will it void the warra
nty?
I told Paul I would ask you guys first...

73
Chris
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From: Jim Devenport <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Re: SIMPLE SIMPLEX REPEATER....HELP
Date: 4 Jan 1996 03:17:09 GMT
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I couldn't believe I had this issue of 73 right in a small pile
at my fingertips.  Your description of the problem plus a
perusal of the schematic makes me suspect some "squirrelies".
I note the COS input line is bypassed with C3, a .22 uf
capacitor.  Is this in place and is it close to U4?  If it is,
I recommend the following:
-Try installing .1 or .2 uf capacitors physically close to pins
4&5 of U3, pins 9 and 10 of U3, and pin 27 of U1.
-I don't see it in the circuit but all your IC's, especially
the logics (U3 and U4) should have the VCC pins bypassed with a
1 to 1 uf or so electrolytic mounted as close to the IC's as
possible and with as short a connection to circuit ground or
the IC ground as possible.  I'd suggest this as your first
priority.
-You may also be experiencing RFI from your attached
transceiver.  It probably should be mounted in a good rf-proof
box with incoming and outgoing wiring bypassed and/or choked
with ferrite shells and other RFI reducing techniques.
Good luck with the project.  Hope some of this helps!
--
|-------------------------------------------------------|
|Jim Devenport     WB5AOX                               |
|All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed                    |
|My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers|
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From: [e-mail]   (Jim Reisert AD1C)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Boat Anchors mailing list - where?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 03:43:38 GMT
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Can someone please tell me the address of the Boat Anchors mailing list?

Please REPLY rather than FOLLOWUP.

--
Jim Reisert
[e-mail]



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From: Bruce Goldstein <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Headphones compatible with hearing aids
Date: 4 Jan 1996 04:09:28 GMT
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I have a friend who suffers from what he describes as bone loss
conduction hearing deficiency.  He is looking for headphones which would
work well with or without his hearing aids.

Any experience or ideas?

Thanks and 73
     - Bruce WA3AFS



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From: [e-mail] (Greg Moore)
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Subject: Crowbar circuit for PS
Date: 4 Jan 1996 05:14:57 GMT
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Does anybody have a good circuit for a PS crowbar?  I have the general
idea about how to build this, but I need the specifics...zener diode
triggers gate of SCR, but I fried my last project by not using a
current-limiting resistor of a large enough value.  IF I do use a large
enough resistor, the zener won't fire...  I'm trying to get a cut-off
voltage in the 14.5-15 volt range.  Initially, this was for a home-built
30A supply, voltage variable from about 5 to 14 or so.  I'm open to
suggestion.  I may now use a similar circuit to protect an as-yet-unbuilt
smaller supply of about 5A, but haven't decided.  Questions:  1.  What
voltage zener should I use?  2.  What value resistor?  3.  Any
recommendations for an SCR for either supply?  The 30A supply is being
mothballed for the time being, as I may either re-wind the transformer or
just get a new one, so I'm *really* interested in what would work for a
5-amp unit...

Any assistance *gladly* appreciated!

Greg

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From: Gregg Fine <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Repairs - HF gear
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Looking for a resonable and dependable techincian to repair
Yeasu, Tempo, Swan, and Heath HF gear.  Depended on local guy for
years.  Have needs at present.

Gregg Fine
KF4AUY


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From: "Lloyd A. Scott, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted: Information reference MAB
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Wanted: Any information concerning the WWII MAB Transceiver used by
the US MArine Corps. Any help will be appreciated.
Lloyd A. Scott, Jr.



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From: [e-mail] (Art Winterbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best system for urban simplex communications???
Date: 4 Jan 1996 07:25:20 -0700
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Would cellular phones be less expensive (say, over a 5-year period) and
useful for other needs, like calling a tow truck if your car breaks down
on that long commute?


--
Art
[e-mail] OR [e-mail]




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Ha! Ha! Ha! The 1000 ohm resistor was attached...But only at one
end!!!The other end was left hanging in midair. The trick was in the
wording.   Now !  If you really want to explore the experiment lets out
it in the CAD and have a coupl'a beers and of course start over...
Have a good one

Don Payne,Chief Engineer WZPL-FM/Indianapolis,IN...USA



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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Dummy up, Dummy down
Date: 30 Dec 1995 21:32:25 GMT
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[e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth) wrote:

>>I cannot answer because you didn't give enough information.
>>
>>>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is attached
>>>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?
>>
>>Where is the emitter attached?
>>
>If the transistor is a npn it might be less than 10 volts. If it's a
>pnp, it might be more than 10 volts. I can't see where it matters much
>if by definition the transistor is saturated. Same goes for the other
>examples...


The comments are getting dumber and dumber.
How can it ever be more than 10 volts.
Might be less than 10v? If saturated that is an understatement.
The answers I got by direct E mail may not have all correct but
they were not out in left field.

--
#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
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Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) or call 508-385-3427 and
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From: "C. J. Hawley Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 08:21:27 -0600
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PETER Q. GEORGE, N1GGP wrote:
>
>      I have been hearing the same amateur radio bulletin now for the last
> two weeks.  A station licensed as K1MAN seems to be providing a broadcast
> service...day in and day out in the middle of the VERY PRECIOUS AM window
> in and about 3885 (plus or minus a few KCs).  I am totally for amateur radio
> bulletins. They DO provide a much needed service to the amateur service.
> But broadcasting for hours at a time with the same taped programming hour
> after hour seems to be a little redundant or if not.... very illegal.  I
> am sure the IARN provides help to those who need it.  But I tend to think
> that monopolizing the 80 meter AM window is not right, not in the least.
> Once in the morning, once in the evening is fine.  But 10 hours a day ?
> Come on, Glen.

Some people think they were chosen by God. Sometimes you just have to wait
for nature to solve some of these problems.

>
> Peter Q. George (N1GGP)
> Randolph, Massachusetts
> "AM is ALIVE.......on 3885 !"

PS, I am usually on 3875. I'm glad you're on 3885. I listen sometimes. When
prop is good I like to open up my 850 (cringe) to 12KHz and the AM sounds
nice.

--


Charles Jack Hawley Jr.
Amateur Radio KE9UW (A.K.A. 'Chuck' in Ham Radio)
BMW K100RS, BMWMOA #224 (A.K.A. 'Jack' in Motorcycles)
[e-mail]
Sr. Research Engineer Emeritus
Univ of Ill, Urbana-Champaign


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Message-ID: <4cgur4$[e-mail]>
From: John Nicholson <[e-mail]>
Subject: KEIKO WHALE SPECIAL EVENT STATION
Date: 4 Jan 1996 08:21:56 -0800
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From: John Nicholson <[e-mail]>
Subject: KEIKO WHALE SPECIAL EVENT STATION
Date: 4 Jan 1996 08:21:56 -0800
Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access [phone]
Message-ID: <4cgur4$[e-mail]>

Join the fun this Sunday and work K7FD, commemorating Keiko's
arrival to the Oregon Coast Aquarium...will be working various
bands SSB only from 10a - 6p PST...operators will be supplied
by the Lincoln County ARC...QSLs of course...please send
SASE business size...

73, John K7FD
--
[e-mail]  Public Access User -- Not affiliated with Teleport
Public Access UNIX and Internet at [phone] (2400-28800, N81)


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hey you Burt-bashers! Read this!
Date: 4 Jan 1996 12:25:42 -0500
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Burt - why don't you learn how to use your news reader and send your postings
ONCE!  Better still, don't send them at all!  We're sick of your negative
attitude and bitching.

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Form 610 without license
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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In article <4cfi85$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Daniel Senie) w
rites:
>In article <[e-mail]>, Don Christine <[e-mail]> wrote:
>)Hello,
>)
>)I want to submit Form 610 to get a new callsign (I've moved
>)to Washington state from the midwest), but seem to have lost
>)my license.  Can I submit the Form 610 to get a new callsign
>)without attaching my license?
>
>Yes. The FCC can handle this. Or at least they would if anyone was working.
>When (if) the bozos in Washington DC (they all seem to qualify either
>directly or by association), you should be able to get it taken care
>of. I believe the instructions on the full-sized 610 (the one with the
>instruction sheets still attached) explains the procedure.

Yeah, all you have to do is write a letter telling them you lost
your license (NY9S) and attach that to the 610.

Gary

--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


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From: [e-mail] (Walter R Francis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Best system for urban simplex communications???
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 96 13:30:36 EST
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In article <4cgo0g$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Art Winterbauer) writes:

>
>Would cellular phones be less expensive (say, over a 5-year period) and
>useful for other needs, like calling a tow truck if your car breaks down
>on that long commute?
>
>
>--
>Art
>[e-mail] OR [e-mail]
>
>
This makes lots of sense..  Let's do some math here..  Say they purchased
two brand new mobile antennas at $60 a piece, and/or purchased a mobile
radio for cross-band repeating such as another person suggested at $600,
this adds up to $720.

Two cellular phones at say $40 a month, $450 startup fees, and 20 minutes
5 days of the week at $.25 a minute comes up to $2600 a year just for
phone calls, and after 5 years this is 13000 + 4800 + 900 = $18,700.

Yeah, what was I thinking, go cellular!

---
     Walter    _  [e-mail]                     KE4UWN
       R    _ //  [e-mail]           Alinco 580      2/70 Beam
    Francis ¢X/   [e-mail]        Kenwood 530S    DXCC Dipole


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From: [e-mail](Mike McLendon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 13:36:29 GMT
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Peter,

At the risk of eliminating most other broadcasts (ie W1AW bulletins,
code practice etc.) your main LEGAL recourse is to complain to your
congressional representatives in the state and federal government, the
FCC and the ARRL that broadcasting should be prohibited within the
amateur bands.

Appealing to K1MAN to cease operation will not work.

You must live near his station...


Anyway - good luck 73 - Mike KE4END


 (PETER Q. GEORGE, N1GGP) writes:
>
>     I have been hearing the same amateur radio bulletin now for the
last
>two weeks.  A station licensed as K1MAN seems to be providing a
broadcast
>service...day in and day out in the middle of the VERY PRECIOUS AM
window
>in and about 3885 (plus or minus a few KCs).  I am totally for amateur
radio
>bulletins. They DO provide a much needed service to the amateur
service.
>But broadcasting for hours at a time with the same taped programming
hour
>after hour seems to be a little redundant or if not.... very illegal.
I
>am sure the IARN provides help to those who need it.  But I tend to
think
>that monopolizing the 80 meter AM window is not right, not in the
least.
>Once in the morning, once in the evening is fine.  But 10 hours a day
?
>Come on, Glen.
>
>
>Peter Q. George (N1GGP)
>Randolph, Massachusetts
>"AM is ALIVE.......on 3885 !"



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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Form 610 without license
Date: 4 Jan 1996 14:56:36 GMT
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>Can I submit the Form 610 to get a new callsign
>without attaching my license?

Yes.  Attach a note explaining that it is lost.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


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From: Ed Ellers <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What Percent of the Market does Mac have...?
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 96 14:57:54 -0500
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Robert Beeman <[e-mail]> writes:

>I have a feeling, though, that PC people who try to quote Apple market
>share are often trying to convince someone to buy a PC because "Apple is
>going broke" or some such nonsense.  This is ridiculous IMHO.  There is a
>lot of good evidence that Apple's share is increasing slowly, even without
>counting the new authorized Power Mac clones.=20

Quite frankly, I expect the Mac as such to be extinct in another year and a
half.  There'll still be an Apple, and they will still sell so-called Macintos
h
computers, but they'll be based on the PowerPC Platform standard and won't
really be any different, in terms of compatibility, from what IBM and others
are selling.  With one of these machines you'd be able to run MacOS, Windows
NT, the Be OS or maybe even OS/2 Warp Connect, regardless of whether the box
came from Apple or from somebody else.  He who starts to dislike Windows NT
will be able to switch to MacOS without much grief...or vice versa.

(What you won't be able to do, according to Apple, is read 400K or 800K Mac
diskettes on these new systems.  They'll have PC-style floppy controllers only
,
since part of the idea of the PowerPC Platform is to get away from the
proprietary chips that Apple has such a hard time obtaining.)


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From: "John  L. Rouse" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this Newsgroup?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 15:36:22 GMT
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>Avery Russell ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: For months now I have been following the message threads on this
>: Newsgroup. Instead of meaningful discussion regarding ANY number of
>: aspects of amateur radio, it appears that this is nothing more than a
>: sounding board for people to trash one another. This newsgroup is brought
>: to you by incredible technology. Why not use it for constructive
>: meaningful discussion? I don't get it. Of course, I can only imagine, let
>: the flames begin.
>: Greetings for a very good new year.
>
====================
 It's really unfortunate that a small number of morons can dump so much
trash on this newsgroup, forcing many to wade through childish diatribes
and know-nothing displays of verbal backwardness. Fortunately, for many
of us, I suspect, the old newsgroup reader filtering does work and we're
spared most of the nonsense generated by the likes of the argumentative
but ill-informed Cape Cod bore. Sadly, there's not much that can be done
other than ignoring these childish rants. Eventually, I suppose they'll
go away - perhaps to 80 meters....But then hope springs eternal...

73, John KA3DBN


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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: [Survey] RFI in Suburus?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 15:52:34 GMT
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In article <4c8tdq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says..
.
>
>
>I've opted to abandon the SUV market in favor of the car market.
>
>Several people on the 4x4 newsgroup recommend Suburus for my needs.
>
>Now, if I turn my attention to the Suburu market, what is your experience
>with RFI in Suburu cars?  The Impreza looks good, though I'm not holding
>myself to that car.
>
>Thanks for your feedback.
>--
>Scott Ehrlich                    Web: http://www.ehrlichtronics.com
>E-mail: [e-mail]         [e-mail]
>Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z

We have an 87 Subaru wagon, 4x4. I operate 50 watts on 2, 40 watts on 440, and
50 watts on 6 meters. I have also at times operated 100 watts SSB on 40 m and
10 m mobile. The 2/440 antenna has been alternatively located on the roof or a
t
the left rear corner of the car. A ball mount is located at the right rear
corner of the car and is used for either 6m, 10m or 40m antennas.

I have had zero problems with RFI, either caused by the car or created to the
car electronics.

Ed, KF7VY
------------------------
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From: [e-mail] (WB8VBW)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for a Cushman CE-3 Manual
Date: 4 Jan 1996 16:15:05 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Hi,
I am fixing up an old CE-3 service monitor for use by our radio club to
fix repeaters.  I dont have a manual... Any one out there have one?


73

Mike


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From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: Morse code exam symbols
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Utopia Planetia Shipyards - Mars
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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:26:26 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Vin
cent Socci ph2828) writes:
-I'm a no-code tech, but I am working on the upgrade.
Congratulations on getting your tech lisence, and good luck with the upgrages

-1)  What symbols do I need to learn to pass the 5wpm and 13wpm
-exams? I know I need letters and numbers, but what about
-punctuation and CW symbols?

The exam will include the letters, numbers, some punctuation (period,
comma [often between city and state], slash [usually in a callsign],
and questionmark) and prosigns (BT, AR, SK).

-3) What are the specs for the code that is used in the 5wpm and
-13wpm exams?

Contact the VE team where you will be testing; they should know.  Ours
(an ARRL team) uses the standard ARRL exam tapes.
-Tone frequency?
If needed, most teams can change this if they are given advance notice to make
up a tape
-Spacing?
ARRL uses Farnsworth, with 18 WPM characters sent at 5 or 13 WPM
-Words or random letters?
Most teams will use a message that is part of a QSO, so it is like one
chunk of a conversation.
-dah to dit time ratio?
Standard 3-1 CW
-How long is the test transmission?
We have a 1 minute practice session with about 5 minutes of code for the
test.  5WPM tests are around 7 mins long, since it is hard to have a meaningfu
l
message in 25 words that include all the required characters
-Are we given time to clean up our copy after transmission is complete?
We give a minute or so to do that; once we hand out the questions, you can't
write on your code copy sheet, since you might get some of the missing info
from the questions.  We also don't allow copying dots and dashes and
translating them after the test is over.
-How many mistakes are we allowed?
For the questions, you must pass at least 7 out of the 10.  They are either
multiple choice or fill-in-the-blank questions, depending on the VE team,
usually asking for stuff like callsigns, equipment, weather, bands/states
worked, etc.
You can also pass with one minute of perfect copy (25 chars for 5wpm, 65 for
13, numbers, punct, and prosigns count as 2 chars each, spacing doesn't
count).

-As you may be able to guess, I've never taken a code exam yet,
-so I'm looking for all the insight I can get.

You might try to take one for practice, just to get the feel of it (and you
never know; without the pressure of doing it for real, you may do a lot
better than you expected).  I also recommend trying out one speed faster than
you plan to take (except for 20WPM, of course).  Again, you may surprise
yourself and pass; however, after listening to 13, the 5 will sound slower
than usual...

Good luck on the code test.
/mike

--
\|/     Michael L. Ardai     N1IST
-*- ----------------------------------
/|\     [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Rick Kissell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 6m OPEN 1/4/96 2235Z WI to FL
Date: 4 Jan 1996 16:42:20 -0600
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Six meters is open right now (1/4/96, 2235Z) from southeastern Wisconsin
to west-central Florida (EL87).

73,

Rick WB9GYT
Milwaukee



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From: [e-mail] (Ken Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Now Dave the untruth teller?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 17:36:26 GMT
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In article <4cfacc$[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> write
s:
|>
|> I NEVER ever said any hams were stupid.
|> Show me ONCE.
|> Try a fact or two.
|>


(June 1995)

In article <3s57tk$[e-mail]>, Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> write
s:
|>
|> So if you watch a movie about murder you are a killer.
|> I thought hams were boring, not stupid.
|>


Thanks to the ham that pointed me to burt's appartent lack of truth.


--
======================================================================

Ken M. Edwards, PE  Bell Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
[phone] email: [e-mail]    Ham: N4ZBB   Packet: [e-mail]
DX PacketCluster (tm) Node : W4DW

All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of
my employer or co-workers, family, friends, congress, or president.


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From: [e-mail] (Gayle Albert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 18:02:28 GMT
Organization: Midwest Internet
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K1MAN is not really any worse than the ARRL.

Both of them:

    (1) Transmit hours of meaningless drivel
    (2) Power up and transmit in the middle of QSOs
    (3) Are under the impression that they own "their" frequencies
    (4) Provide some small amount of service
    (5) Get involved in on-the-air bashing of each other and other
              Hams
    (6) Do something that, IMHO, is prohibited by Part 97 and should
              be cited for their activities

In the meantime, K1MAN and the ARRL are operating within the rules as
the FCC has interpreted them. We can't allow the ARRL (or anyone else)
to do something and then prohibit others from doing the same things.

Enjoy Amateur Broadcast Radio!


Marty Albert (Amatuer Radio Station KC6UFM)
PO Box 717
Fredericktown, MO  63645



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From: [e-mail] (Al Gerheim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb (what hams know about
Date: 4 Jan 1996 18:23:42 GMT
Organization: Sonalysts, Inc.
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michael silva ([e-mail]) wrote:
> In <4c1avk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Larry AD3Y)
> writes:
> >
> >>If a tranistor is driven into saturation and the collector is
> attached
> >>to a 1000 ohm resistor with 10 volts Vcc what is Vce?
> >
> >Cliff Sharp wrote:
> >
> >>Where is the emitter attached?
> >
> >Good question!
> >
> >Also, is there a resistor attached between the emitter
> >and it's bias voltage? If so, there would be an additional
> >voltage drop there.

> This sounds like pettifogging to me.  Perhaps some of it is because of
> Burt's usual antagonistic way of saying anything, but part of knowing
> the material involves making reasonable assumptions.  If you're worried
> that the emitter isn't at 0 volts, you can still answer the saturation
> question.  If you want to take into account the leakage current thru
> the load resistor than by all means do so.  None of that changes the
> fact that cutoff and saturation are basic concepts, and that hams
> should understand them.  In the 1995 Handbook they are discussed in the
> *third* paragraph of the BJT article (and no doubt that discussion is
> also plagued with ambiguities).  Once again, this is *not* EE-level
> material.

> 73,
> Mike, KK6GM

If the transistor is in saturation, then Vce is roughly 0.2 volts,
with the polarity depending on the type of transistor.  This is
independent of any other circuit parameters.

--
***********************************************************************
Al Gerheim, N4QN      |Opinions expressed here | Sonalysts Inc. POB 280
[e-mail] |    are my own.         | 215 Parkway North
Work: [phone]   |                        | Waterford CT 06385
***********************************************************************


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From: [e-mail] (Roland Geter sr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: "%%% WANTED COLLINS SC-101 %%%"
Date: 4 Jan 1996 18:39:21 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
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Will pay cash and shipping for "dead or alive" unit ANY CONDITION!!
Call me @ 800-399-4383 x765 24hrs.
-
  ROLAND S GETER SR
         WB6LNA
  [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 18:42:09 GMT
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>PETER Q. GEORGE, N1GGP wrote:
>>
>>      I have been hearing the same amateur radio bulletin now for the
last
>> two weeks.  A station licensed as K1MAN seems to be providing a
broadcast
>> service...day in and day out in the middle of the VERY PRECIOUS AM
window
>> in and about 3885 (plus or minus a few KCs).


Do you live in the immediate vicinity of this station?  If do, do a
little DF'ing.  A pin in the coax can work wonders.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Link Communications)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ACC RC-850 repeater c
Date: 4 Jan 1996 18:42:25 GMT
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>Steve maybe a Internet newsgroup would be a nice place to have some
>ACC/Linkcom discussion......
>also have a question.....Paul N5TNS just ought a RLC3 from you...if I
>mod his audio for my flat mods with the unit still in warranty, will
>it void the warranty? I told Paul I would ask you guys first...

No problem - go ahead and make the modifications.  Just be careful when
de-soldering parts on the four-layer circuit boards so you don't pull
the plating out of the holes.

If you wouldn't mind posting them, there are a few of us that would like
to know which mods you make.  A discussion of the benefits of using flat
audio might also be helpful.

>73
>Chris

Steve Strobel
Link Communications, Inc.
[e-mail]

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12



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From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Morse code testing
Date: 4 Jan 1996 20:02:58 GMT
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>1)  What symbols do I need to learn to pass the 5wpm and 13wpm
>exams? I know I need letters and numbers, but what about
>punctuation and CW symbols?

All the letters and numbers, all punctuation (, . /) and
prosigns (KN, AR, SK, BT).


>2)  Any general tips on the best way to learn and improve speed?
>The CP program is excellent in its way of grouping letters in
>it's beginner menu, but I still have difficulty in hearing,
>decoding, and WRITING DOWN a letter before the next one starts.
>I also occasionally misidentify "dahs" as "dits". (What can I say,
>six years in the US Army Field Artillery will do wonders for the
>ears).  Should I be writing down letters as I hear them, or should
>I use some sort of shorthand to write fast enough?

Most people take these tests one letter at a time.  Do you copy ENGLISH
one letter at a time?  No, one WORD at a time.  At 13 wpm, however,
it may not be possible to do this (below 18 wpm I can't remember the
beginning of the word!).

I've seen numerous people take laptops into test sessions, too.


>3) What are the specs for the code that is used in the 5wpm and
>13wpm exams?
>i.e.:
>Tone frequency?        Varies, usually 600-750 Hz.
>Spacing?               Standard, longer if Farnsworth method is used.
>Words or random letters?       Most tests are QSO-format.
>dah to dit time ratio?         Usually the standard 3-1 ratio.
>How long is the text?          Depends on speed, I usually do 5 min.
>Are we given time to clean up our copy after transmission is
>complete?

   Usually, yes.  Some give an unlimited time, some stop you.

>How many mistakes are we allowed?

   All exams require a minimum passing score of 70%.

>As you may be able to guess, I've never taken a code exam yet,
>so I'm looking for all the insight I can get.


Nearly everyone uses the Farnsworth method (5 or 13 wpm sending speed,
20 wpm character speed, leaving more time between characters).
--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440
** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas **
Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles...
72 & 73 from suburban DC  301-549-1022 (h)  301-982-1015 (w)


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From: [e-mail] (Robert J. Lane)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Dayton Hamvention ?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 21:19:45 GMT
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 I am thinking of visiting the states this year and I would like to
time the visit during the period of the Dayton Hamvention (Hope thats
correct title).
Could someone please e-mail the actual dates for the event.
Many thanks.

Rob Lane G4NQX



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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse code testing
Date: 5 Jan 1996 04:36:11 GMT
Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
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In <4chbpi$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3
I) writes:
>>1)  What symbols do I need to learn to pass the 5wpm and 13wpm
>>exams? I know I need letters and numbers, but what about
>>punctuation and CW symbols?
>All the letters and numbers, all punctuation (, . /) and
>prosigns (AR, SK, BT).

don't forget the "?"...KN's not on the test.

>>2)  Any general tips on the best way to learn and improve speed?

send the character fast enough that you can't count parts, but put enough spac
e
between 'em so you can learn to write it down. gradually increase speed and
reduce time between characters.

try to listen to on-air code as well. copy what you can.

>>ears).  Should I be writing down letters as I hear them, or should
>>I use some sort of shorthand to write fast enough?

shorthand is OK if you know it...you want to get where you can copy behind, an
d
i suspect you'll need to be there before shorthand would be effective.

>I've seen numerous people take laptops into test sessions, too.

can be cumbersome..check with the VE team first to find out if there's any
problem with bringing along the computer.

>>3) What are the specs for the code that is used in the 5wpm and
>>13wpm exams?

the ones i have are about 18 WPM character speed with spacing for 5 and 13
WPM tests.  20 sounds like straight 20 to me.

>>How many mistakes are we allowed?
>
>   All exams require a minimum passing score of 70%.

or you can get 1 minute of solid copy...with numbers/punctuation counting as 2
letters, you need 25 for 5, 65 for 13 and 100 for 20...

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: super morse
Date: 5 Jan 1996 04:38:48 GMT
Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Lines: 13
Message-ID: <4cia0o$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2

In <4c6aom$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ja
ck Yazel) writes:
>I recently replied to a posting about the Super Morse software and
>indicated that it did not work well with faster computers.
>I have obtained version 4.10 (file: SM410.ZIP from oak.oakland.edu)

i think there's a version 4.15 or 4.16 out there as well..believe morse academ
y is
at 5.2L right now as well.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



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From: [e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG)
Subject: "Linear" versus "Amplifier"
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Lines: 22
Date: 7 Jan 96 05:04:05 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

I am feeling more anal than usual, and my father used to beat me
whenever I used a word "wrong" (not the way he considered proper)
--- and here is the fallout.

I go nuts whenever I hear hams call their amplifiers "linears".
"Linear" is an adjective, not a noun.  Lots of things can be linear.
The adjective "linear" describes the way the amplifier amplifies.
Calling a linear amplifier a "linear" is like calling an auto tuner
an "auto" or a digital filter a "digital".

Ahhhh, now I feel better.  By the way, yes, I have done this myself.
Lately I have noticed that it drives me crazy though, and now I call
them "amplifiers" instead of "linears".  My dad would have wanted it
that way.  :-)

:-).

Clark
WA3JPG





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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "Linear" versus "Amplifier"
Date: 7 Jan 1996 06:27:42 GMT
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[e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG) wrote:
>

>I go nuts whenever I hear hams call their amplifiers "linears".
>"Linear" is an adjective, not a noun.  Lots of things can be linear.
>The adjective "linear" describes the way the amplifier amplifies.
>Calling a linear amplifier a "linear" is like calling an auto tuner
>an "auto" or a digital filter a "digital".

Okay, we'll just call them "boots" or "footwarmers" from now on.  <g>

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM




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From: [e-mail] (Clifton T. Sharp)
Subject: Re: "Linear" versus "Amplifier"
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 16:58:43 GMT
Lines: 14

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clar
k Savage Turner WA3JPG) writes:
>Calling a linear amplifier a "linear" is like calling an auto tuner
>an "auto" or a digital filter a "digital".

Or a danish pastry a "danish", or a willow tree a "willow", or a laptop
computer a "laptop", or a television receiver a "television". Clark, as
aggravated as I get over the daily flagrant misuse of English grammar
on Usenet news, I can't agree with this one. English is defined by
popular usage, you big silly. :-)

--
   Cliff Sharp                  There are days when no matter which
     WA9PDM                      way you spit, it's upwind.
  [e-mail]       --The First Law of Reality


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: "Linear" versus "Amplifier"
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Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am feeling more anal than usual, and my father used to beat me
: whenever I used a word "wrong" (not the way he considered proper)
: --- and here is the fallout.

: I go nuts whenever I hear hams call their amplifiers "linears".
: "Linear" is an adjective, not a noun.  Lots of things can be linear.
: The adjective "linear" describes the way the amplifier amplifies.
: Calling a linear amplifier a "linear" is like calling an auto tuner
: an "auto" or a digital filter a "digital".

: Ahhhh, now I feel better.  By the way, yes, I have done this myself.
: Lately I have noticed that it drives me crazy though, and now I call
: them "amplifiers" instead of "linears".  My dad would have wanted it
: that way.  :-)

Not only is "linear" an adjective, but a more incorrect usage comes up all
the time when referring to an amplifier for VHF frequencies and up, most of
which are not linear at all.

The phrase that gets me is "first personal" instead of "name."  Where the
heck did this come from?  Sounds like some combination of political
correctness and military jargon.

Jim

[e-mail]  |   Jim Lowman    * KF6CR*    San Bernardino, CA
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[phone] (FAX)|   was, everyone would be doing it."  -Unknown-




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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: "Linear" versus "Amplifier"
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Clar
k Savage Turner WA3JPG) writes:
>I am feeling more anal than usual, and my father used to beat me
>whenever I used a word "wrong" (not the way he considered proper)
>--- and here is the fallout.
>
>I go nuts whenever I hear hams call their amplifiers "linears".
>"Linear" is an adjective, not a noun.  Lots of things can be linear.
>The adjective "linear" describes the way the amplifier amplifies.
>Calling a linear amplifier a "linear" is like calling an auto tuner
>an "auto" or a digital filter a "digital".

Gee, I guess we better quit calling television receivers "televisions",
or just "TV", then, and quit calling stereo FM receivers "stereos".

The English language is a living breathing thing, evolving by
common usage. It is not a dead relic like latin, and there are
no government language police as there are for French. It means
what we say it means, and we've decided by common usage that
television is now a noun, and so is stereo, and so is linear.
Get used to it.

Gary
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG" writes:

> I go nuts whenever I hear hams call their amplifiers "linears".
> "Linear" is an adjective, not a noun.  Lots of things can be linear.
> The adjective "linear" describes the way the amplifier amplifies.
> Calling a linear amplifier a "linear" is like calling an auto tuner
> an "auto" or a digital filter a "digital".

When did the noun "amplifier" become so very legitimate?  I am sure it was
an amplifying stage or circuit in Great Grandfather's time, after the first
triodes became available.  Maybe we should all have a moan about that too.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I go nuts whenever I hear hams call their amplifiers "linears".
: "Linear" is an adjective, not a noun.  Lots of things can be linear.
: The adjective "linear" describes the way the amplifier amplifies.
: Calling a linear amplifier a "linear" is like calling an auto tuner
: an "auto" or a digital filter a "digital".

: Ahhhh, now I feel better.  By the way, yes, I have done this myself.
: Lately I have noticed that it drives me crazy though, and now I call
: them "amplifiers" instead of "linears".  My dad would have wanted it
: that way.  :-)

How is this any more accurate?  There are many types of amplifiers, which
are biased in various ways.  For example, I have a Class C amplifier that
is fine for CW or FM. However, it is not linear, so would not be good for
AM or SSB (unless plate modulated - but that is another subject).

The term "linear", when used in context, is not ambiguous at all - although
the person using the term may be wrong (Such as the common CB "linear" that
generally isn't). In this case, it is more precise than the general term
"amplifier".

Bill


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[e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG) writes:

>I am feeling more anal than usual, and my father used to beat me
>whenever I used a word "wrong" (not the way he considered proper)
>--- and here is the fallout.

>I go nuts whenever I hear hams call their amplifiers "linears".
>"Linear" is an adjective, not a noun.  Lots of things can be linear.
>The adjective "linear" describes the way the amplifier amplifies.
>Calling a linear amplifier a "linear" is like calling an auto tuner
>an "auto" or a digital filter a "digital".

>Ahhhh, now I feel better.  By the way, yes, I have done this myself.
>Lately I have noticed that it drives me crazy though, and now I call
>them "amplifiers" instead of "linears".  My dad would have wanted it
>that way.  :-)

>:-).

>Clark
>WA3JPG


How do you feel about 2 meter ops who "kew are zed"
the frequency or destinate?

NE0R




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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
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My RF amplifiers aren't linear.  They're class-C.  That's because they
are used to amplify signals that don't need their amplitude characteristics
preserved.  Y'know, FM voice, FSK, etc.

"Roger there oooh emmm.  Running barefoot on the old rig here.
Que Are Hex a minute while I shovel on the Kew Har Hoe.  Gotta throw the
big switch on this here classy.  Hows my old signal hittin you now, Hoh Hem?"

        - Brian


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Hello, i got 2 10ghz gunplexers and got some papers on building a 2Mbps data
link, but the how artical is not there..AND i dont know what book it is from
i KNWO its not in the Microwave/UHF  project manual and not in the arrl
handbook
i NEED the rest of the plans and a better stematic for this. all i know is
that the pages i have are 32-70

PLEASE HELP!
and please private reply

DAvid
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Sorry, Tom, I don't.  Nor do I know if this is/was the former 01/61 machine.
I don't live in the area, never did (at least, not since '56!) and my
knowledge of the machine is based upon information from Roy, N6TK.  They are
one of our affiliates carrying "This Week in Amateur Radio".
-
73 de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Stillwater, NY
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My father has just ordered a new Kenwood TM-241 2-Meter radio to install
in his 95 Camry. I have a 92 Camry and remember seeing something on this
group about RFI from a 2-Meter rig damaging the computer in a Camry. It
seems to me that the radio was mounted too close to the computer which is
on the passanger side of the Camry.

Does anyone know if this is still a problem? If so does it matter which
radios are better/worse. Any information is appriciated.   Thanks.
--
Del Perry
KD6ZUW
E-Mail:  [e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Robert Smits)
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[e-mail] (Geert Jan de Groot) writes:

>If someone has the FAX number of the Canadian PTT at hand,
>can you please send me an email message? I found that they
>are probably 'Industry Canada, Radio Regularity branch',
>but a FAX number would become very handy.
>

Canada doesn't need a Push To Talk, Jan, we spout off without one.

Industry Canada is the licensing authority for radio in Canada, and
they have offices from coast to coast. If you want a specific address,
email me and I'll look it up, or try the Industry Canada homepage at
http://info.ic.gc.ca/ic-data/    for more info.

--
[e-mail]

Never make people laugh. If you would succeed in life, you
must be solemn, solemn as an ass. All great monuments are
built over solemn asses. - Thomas Corwin


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From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: ADMS for Yaeus FT-11R
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I noticed on Yaesu's homepage that they have a WIndows program to
program the FT-11R. This is seperate than the cloning feature they
offer. I was wondering if anyone has any information on the serial cable
that comes with it. They use a DB-25 connector (presumably RS-232C) on
one end and a 1/8 in. connector to plug into earphone. I would like to
make one of these cables to integrate the programming into a program I
already have. Any help would be appreciated.
--
Tom Schaefer
Orange, Virginia                [e-mail]



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I teach a few no-code tech. courses and would like to have some software that
could generate some
sample FCC exams.  Does anyone have that kind of software they would like to c
ontribute?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sid George, CPA     [e-mail]
AB5XU
http://www.hal-pc.org/~sid
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      I have a PK232 tnc which I am having little luck in getting it to run
APRS74e.  I use PKGOLD as my regular packet communications program.  I
have tried all of the fixes that I have seen on packet but I still can
not get the tnc to communicate with the APRS program.

      If anyone has the above combination running properly, I would
appreciate it if you could mail me your shutdown.tnc file or mail me step
by step instructions on how to get the system working properly.

                      Thank you.

                      [e-mail]



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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP001
ARLP001 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP22
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 1  ARLP001
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  January 5, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP001
ARLP001 Propagation de KT7H

Back from vacation in Bahia, Brazil, your author is tanned, rested
and ready for another year of propagation and solar observation.  It
is currently Summer south of the equator, and it was interesting to
listen to the HF bands from PY6LA, with formerly distant stations
suddenly local.

In the northern hemisphere it is Winter, and we can expect 20 meters
to still be the best band for worldwide communications during the
day, peaking right after sunrise and again in the late afternoon.
30 and 40 meters should be good for DX in the late afternoon, along
with 80 meters after dark.  Low Winter static levels are a good
factor for low frequency communications at this time.

Over January look for the solar flux to gradually drop toward the
low seventies by the 10th and back to the mid seventies by the end
of the month.  The only disturbance should be around January 20,
caused by recurring coronal holes.

Over the past few weeks average solar flux has been rising, but only
a little.  Last week was the first period in awhile where the
average flux was above the average for the previous 90 days.

Sunspot Numbers for December 14 through 20 were 13, 11, 0, 0, 0, 0
and 11, with a mean of 5.  10.7 cm flux was 69.8, 70.2, 69.9, 69.3,
68.6, 69.2 and 70, with a mean of 69.6.

Sunspot Numbers for December 21 through 27 were 12, 13, 11, 0, 25,
40 and 37, with a mean of 19.7.  10.7 cm flux was 70, 71.2, 72.3,
72.2, 72.5, 74.1 and 74, with a mean of 72.3.

Sunspot Numbers for December 28 through January 3 were 23, 25, 12,
34, 25, 34 and 30, with a mean of 26.1.  10.7 cm flux was 76, 76.4,
75.3, 75.1, 75.1, 74.8 and 80.8, with a mean of 76.2.
NNNN
/EX


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On Sun, 31 Dec 1995 19:28:55 GMT, [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
wrote:

:>I had the opportunity to visit AARS in 1991 while attending school at
:>Bergstrom Air Force Base in Austin.  Each time I visited the store was
:>a pleasant experience.
:>
:>It is also my experience that sales people "have to be perfect" in
:>every way for SOME hams and when or if one has a bad day/week (sales
:>person or customer for that matter) there are those few who, either
:>via packet or internet, paste their displeasure on the monitors of
:>those who partake of these modes.
:>
:>There are some hams who actually go way out of their way to find
:>something wrong with a ham sales establishment and end up amplifying
:>the little things to many times their actual importance or
:>un-importance...and they can't wait to share their negativism with the
:>rest of us.
:>
:>We are all the sum of our experiences in life... and some of us have
:>had a better life than others. But, just because the sales people
:>don't stand at the door in tuxedos to greet everyone with hors
:>d'oeuvres and free gifts and the customer's name up in lights doesn't
:>make the place a bad place to shop.  After all, if EVERYONE
:>interpreted their visit experiences as that bad....these places
:>wouldn't be in business for very long.
:>
:>Sales people are human too...just like next guy.  If one has a genuine
:>bad experience, call the owner or manager and let that person know of
:>the experience?  ...Or, run home and blast way with your keyboard
:>phaser?
:>
:>just my two cents worth...
:>
:>jim martin, wk1v
:>lowell, mass
:>
:>My opinions are my own and do not reflect those of my employer in any
:>way, shape, or form.
:>
:>
You are wrong ! Any sales person regardless of who they work for have
the obligation of being as pleasant as possible to all customers.
Being snotty and unpleasant does nothing for customer relations not to
mention the company they work for. If they cant be pleasant and
helpful then they have no damned business being in the sales field. I
am the service manager for an alarm company so believe me I know about
customer relations and what some of these ham radio dealers exhibit is
far from good customer relations.
Do you like talking to someone who has a chip on their shoulder and
who talks down to you ? No, I dont either and if I get those kind of
"vibes" I take my business elsewhere.

My opinion is also my own but DOES reflect those of my employer !

--
Tim

      Amateur Radio: WB8OGM
      Internet Email: [e-mail]
      Packet Radio: WB8OGM@AA8GL.#nemi.mi.usa.noam

    "Sometimes imagination is better than knowledge"


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You can also upgrade the Explorer antenna.  There is a motorized antenna
mount on the market now, advertised in the ham mags.  I bought one, and
put it on a magnet mount base, and put it on top of my pickup.   A switch
in the cab tilts the antenna over so I can get in my garage.

Rick KD8CP


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From: Pierre-Paul RAOULT <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Bonjour a tous...
Date: 7 Jan 1996 10:28:37 GMT
Organization: Acces et Solutions Internet - Tel: [phone] - Fax: [phone]
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73, cela fait bien plaisir d'avoir des OM francophone sur Internet.
Meilleurs voux pour 1996 et α bientot sur l'air...
F1JMN
Pierre-Paul.




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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Burt in bed.
Date: 7 Jan 1996 15:44:10 GMT
Lines: 18
Message-ID: <4copoa$[e-mail]>
References: <4c7ieq$[e-mail]> <4cdqge$[e-mail]> <4cen36$[e-mail]> <4cfhva$[e-mail]> <4ci0pi$[e-mail]> <4cnluv$[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] (MIKE KITTLES) wrote:

>HEY WHEN WAS THE THE LAST TIME YOU LISTENED TO HAM RADIO.

When I get ready for bed and want to fall asleep.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)




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From: [e-mail] (Keith Wyatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Change to 433.95
Date: 7 Jan 96 19:21:30 GMT
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>Subject: Canadian radio frequencies
>
>I'm planning to return to Canada in the next year or so, and if the 418 is
>a cleaner frequency there than 433.92 I may just leave things as they
>are.  I understand that 420 to 470 MHz is reserved for amateur radio in
>Canada.  Do any of you know about 418?
>
I would just stick with the 418.00 since you will be back in the Americas soon
. You may also have more interfernce since this area of the band is heavily us
ed in North America.

Good Luck,

Keith

--
Keith Wyatt < [e-mail] >
Visit my home page with info on Ham/SWL, PGP shells and help files, NASA and l
ots of interesting stuff with more to come! http://www.tcf.com:80/~kwyatt
---------



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:27 1996
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From: Jordi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Computer interface for YAESU G-800SDX
Date: 6 Jan 1996 10:41:08 GMT
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Hi and thanks for reading this message
I would like to control my YAESU G-800SDX rotor via my computer without
buying an expensive controller (like KCT ,...). Is that possible? .
I'll be grateful for any information.

Please send E-mail to:
[e-mail]

Best 73 from Barcelona



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joel Herbsman (N0AOM))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CQ, first Usenet Message... de N0AOM
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 16:04:14 GMT
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CQ from N0AOM, in Independence, Missouri.

Trying my Usenet interface for the first time.  Hope it is working
correctly?

HAPPY NEW YEAR All!  73.

Joel Herbsman
DIT-MCO International, Inc., Kansas City, Missouri, USA


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From: [e-mail] (RGutknecht)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CTCSS Endoder for ICOM 2AT
Date: 7 Jan 1996 10:45:06 -0500
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I have an IC-2AT with DTMF.  However, I recently moved to an area where
nearly all
the repeaters use CTCSS encoding.  Does anyone have any mods for the
IC-2AT or SOMETHING that would get me back on the air?  I'm suffering from
mikeabstinancitis!  Thanks  '73 Rick Nz2I


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Digital Scope.FAQ
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:39:55 GMT
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Come to my home page or send me an EMAIL with
"subscribe scope.faq" in the subject field
and you'll automatically receive the faq as
an attached <35k> text file.

73,

FYI: The latest version of Digital Scope.FAQ <304> is on my WWW Home Page.
        (All opinions are my own, including Digital Storage Scope.FAQ)




               John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| [e-mail]
          144 Pepperidge Dr. |_|   |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
   Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| [e-mail]
       LeCroy Sales Engineer | | | | | 800-553-2769

    (H) 603-668-1096 (F) 603-627-1623 (P) 800-SKYPAGE #5956779


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:31 1996
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From: Dave'Doc'Reid <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur
Subject: DRCP ham radio kits on WWW
Date: 6 Jan 1996 04:10:37 GMT
Organization: D.R.Computer Products
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Hi all,

a new update to the pages of D.R.Computer products
radio related kits is now available on the WWW.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/drcp

we have an Iambic Keyer on a 1 inch PCB....
and a morse tutor on a 1 inch PCB...
and details of other developments...

Have a wander around and enjoy....

If you want more detail - I can email direct text versions for
those of you without WWW access... just ask

73 de Dave'Doc'Reid
email [e-mail]
packet G0BZF @ GB7DEO (not for business)

cheers

--

Dave 'Doc'Reid Owner and proprieoter of D.R.Computer Products
Bringing radio amateurs everywhere into the digital age
Callsign G0BZF   GQRP # 3677   RSGB  (UK organiser of LY96BDX)


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DSP filters
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 22:23:53 GMT
Organization: Inlink
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[e-mail] (Paul R. Ryack) wrote:

>I'm having a terrible problem with line noise that the local power
>company has been only partially successful in solving.  Does anybody
>have any comments pro or con on using any of the outboard DSP units in
>knocking down line noise. TNX.


>Paul R. Ryack, W1ETH/6
>[e-mail]
>W1ETH@K6TZ.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM

Hi Paul

I purchased RSs DSP, which is about the bottom of the line as far as
DSPs go.  At first I was frustrated with the unit and didn't think
much of it, however, just moments before I was going to return it I
was in a QSO on 6-meters with a station that was hitting me with less
than 1 s-unit when the noise level from local electrical and medical
machines rose to over 5 s-units, using this cheap little DSP I was
able to knock out the noise and still continue my QSO.  Needless to
say, I still have the unit.

However, it does not knock out all line noises on SSB and functions
best for filtering out everything except a CW signal you are
interested in.

Would I part with it?  NO!
Would I recommend it to someone?  Again NO!  There are much better
units than RS on the market that perform much better.
Would I recommend owning a good DSP?  Absolutely!!!

Gary





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From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dumber than dumb
Date: 6 Jan 1996 16:15:59 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
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Burt Fisher ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Rick Edwards) wrote:
: >
: >I think Burt is a refreshing breath of air and I wish he was my
: >neighbor.  We would probably get along great!
: >
: >73 de KD6HRT

: Boy will the hams here blast you for daring to agree with me.
: I get plenty of PRIVATE messages that say "go get 'em" but almost
: no hams will have the guts to say it in public.
:
: |  Burt Fisher   |

Heh, heh.  To paraphrase an old saying, "You can pull-the-leg of some
of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but
you can't pull-the-leg of all the people all of the time."

This certainly qualifies Burt as "some of the people", doesn't it??

hook.line.sinker



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank R. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DXpedition to Midway Island KH4
Date: 7 Jan 1996 21:36:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet
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Bill Myerson, NH6D, will be returning to Midway Island KH4 January 15th
for a 2-week stay there.  This time he will concentrate on the low bands,
using equipment supplied by Wayne Mears WB6EQX.  QSL via KL7H/W6.

Bill reports that he has personally sent out over 2,000 QSL cards from his
December 1995 operation from Midway.

73 de
Frank  Smith AH0W OH2LVG ZA9B


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:36 1996
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From: "Christopher A. Bowne" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: East Coast Old Military Radio Net Now On 160 and 75 Meters
Date: 6 Jan 1996 06:01:19 GMT
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The Old Military Radio Net is a forum for collecters of
such boatanchors as the ART-13, BC-375, ARC-5, to meet
on the air, usually using restored examples of such
classics.  It's the place you are most likely to
hear the largest number of these fine old radios
operating together on a net since the end of World War
II!

Anyone intersted in joining the fun is welcome.  Most
stations operate on AM, as few of the sets can transmit
SSB.  Check ins on SSB and even CW (such as from that
pip squeak GRC-9 field radio on a 15 foot whip antenna
from out in the boondocks!)are also welcome.  Operation
of the old military sets on the net is encouraged, but
is not a prerequiste.

The net is run on a round-robin basis, with a net
control station taking check ins, and establishing a
rotation.  New check ins are solicited by the NCS
between rounds, please do mot break for check in except
when requested by the NCS.

Due to the current propagation conditions, which cause
75 meter propagation to be way too long at 0500 Eastern
time, the net is now meeting at 0500 Saturdays on 1995
kHz.  At about 0700, we will shift up to 3885 kHz (or
nearest clear spot) to accomodate those who do't have
160 meter capability.

1995 kHz was chosen as a 160 meter frequency because
most of the military sets that nominally cover
frequencies of 2 mHz and up are able to tune down to
this frequency.

Propagation on 160 at 0500 Eastern time has been
excellent.  On 12/31/95, we had the entire net on low
power TCS units (20 watts AM) with excellent propagation
from OHIO to DC to Northern NY and New England.

Set your alarm clock, grease up those dynamotors, knock
loose the carbon in those T-17s, and join us!

Chris, AJ1G
Stonington, CT.
[e-mail]





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From: [e-mail] (Dany Bouchard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Encore Salut
Date: 6 Jan 1996 12:37:07 GMT
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ReSalut mon Phil, dis-moi, est-ce que ca fonctionne?

VE2DBM



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Free Ham Test Simulators
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:41:16 GMT
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               FREE - NEW Macintosh HAM TEST SIMULATORS

Studying for a ham test and have access to an Mac?

Upgrade Fast! Simulate the test and get S T I M U L A T E D!


The new Macintosh Ham Test Simulators are HERE (and THERE if you can FTP)!

              o Novice Ham Test 5.0 SA.sea
              o Technician Ham Test 5.0 SA.sea
              o General Ham Test 5.0 SA.sea
              o Advanced Ham Test 5.1 SA.sea
              o Extra Ham Test 5.0 SA.sea

You may obtain a version "5" Ham Test Simulator by mailing me a *FORMATTED
disk (1 per test) and include a Self Addressed and Stamped disk mailer for
the return.

Or: connect to my home page

WWW http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v

Or:

ftp://oak.oakland.edu//pub3/hamradio/mac/theory-and-morse/AdvancedHamTest.sea.
bin
(Aug 30th)
ftp://oak.oakland.edu//pub3/hamradio/mac/theory-and-morse/ExtraHamTest.sea.bin
ftp://oak.oakland.edu//pub3/hamradio/mac/theory-and-morse/GeneralHamTest.sea.b
in
ftp://oak.oakland.edu//pub3/hamradio/mac/theory-and-morse/NoviceHamTest.sea.bi
n
ftp://oak.oakland.edu//pub3/hamradio/mac/theory-and-morse/TechnicianHamTest.se
a.bin

or:

WWW http://hargravea.baylor.edu/BARC/binhex_files/download.html

Your comments and suggestions for future versions are always welcome. Stay
in touch
and good luck with YOUR next test!

FYI: The latest version of Digital Scope.FAQ <304> is on my WWW Home Page.
        (All opinions are my own, including Digital Storage Scope.FAQ)




               John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| [e-mail]
          144 Pepperidge Dr. |_|   |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
   Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| [e-mail]
       LeCroy Sales Engineer | | | | | 800-553-2769

    (H) 603-668-1096 (F) 603-627-1623 (P) 800-SKYPAGE #5956779


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:39 1996
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From: clefebvr <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT-757GX Computer Control?
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 02:54:03 -0500
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Has anyone out there successfully interfaced any of the common Windows
rig control pakages (ProCat, RigWindows, CAT757, etc...)with a Yeasu
757GX?  I have not had much luck to date. If so, what hardware interface
did you use and what software package(s) were you successful with.
Feel free to send Email:
Thanks, Carl

Internet:   [e-mail]
Amprnet:    [e-mail]
AX25 :      wb1eyg @ kc4hqs.#orl.fl.usa.noam


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From: [e-mail](Bill Patton )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham guts
Date: 6 Jan 1996 16:31:26 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jan 06  8:31:26 AM PST 1996

In <4cm6t6$[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes:

>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>---------------------------------199523924346
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------199523924346
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Content-Type: text/plain
>
>   A man went to a guts store to get some guts for dinner.  He sees a
sign
>remarking on the quality of guts offered at this particular gut
>store.  So he asks the butcher: "How much for Engineer guts?"
>   "3 dollars an ounce."
>   "How much for teacher guts?"
>   "4 dollars an ounce."
>   "How much for ham operator guts?"
>   "100 dollars an ounce."
>   "Why is ham operator guts so much more?"
>   "Do you know how many hams you need to kill to get one ounce of
guts?

Pretty Cool but there are a lot of hams out there that do not use the
net for such a flamboyant pulpit of their intestinal knowledge. I've
been a ham since 1958, but have never met any hams (with ham etiquette)
that were putting down novices or hams with lesser understanding that
might be new to the ham community. I always thought of hams as helping,
kind, yet experts in their own right. If we all use the net as a
classroom to exhibit our exemplary knowledge, then where do the new
hams, regardless of what area of the hobby they choose, get their
experience. The only thing that comes from exhibitive intestinal guts
is a lot of crap! Anyone for a dissertation of Direct-mapped,
fully-associative, two-way set associative or four-way set associative
computer cache architecture and how it applies to an internet server?

Bill Patton
Compaq Computer Corporation
[e-mail]


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:42 1996
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From: Eddie Caffray <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham guts
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 11:36:29 -0500
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To: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>

Burt Fisher wrote:
>
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    A man went to a guts store to get some guts for dinner.  He sees a sign
> remarking on the quality of guts offered at this particular gut
> store.  So he asks the butcher: "How much for Engineer guts?"
>    "3 dollars an ounce."
>    "How much for teacher guts?"
>    "4 dollars an ounce."
>    "How much for ham operator guts?"
>    "100 dollars an ounce."
>    "Why is ham operator guts so much more?"
>    "Do you know how many hams you need to kill to get one ounce of guts?


That was the worst shot at Amateur Radio I have ever herd. I am new to these H
am news groups, but
have read many posts about you Burt. At first I felt that your views were just
 very diffrent then
most Hams, which is ok, we all have the right to our own views. But that "Guts
 Joke" was uncalled
for. What is the big deal about "GUTS" Im a Ham, I also was a Cop in NYC for 1
0 years on the 12-8
shift, till my knee was shot up. Does that mean I have guts? Also before you s
tart yelling that I
am just a No-Code tech, I do believe in morse code, I will advance in class as
 I learn the theory
and code which I study each day (Not questions and answers either). Also you c
ould have been more
original in you joke telling, that was an old joke, you just added the Ham ope
rator in place of
the origional text.

--
                         Eddie  N2XDS

          http://www.wpe.com/users/caffray/ham.html


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:44 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Trader & Yellow Sheets
Date: 5 Jan 96 13:50:50 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
Lines: 4
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: [e-mail]

I would appreciate information on how to subscribe to these publications.

Thanks and 73
Dick


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Craig S. Young)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HamCom '96 Speaker's Forums
Date: 8 Jan 1996 15:42:51 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
Lines: 23
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Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.2

The HamCom '96 amateur radio convention is expanding its focus this year,
with a theme of "Computers, Satellites, and Microwaves in Today's Amateur
Radio" and is looking for speakers who can address these topics.  Of
particular interest are programs which bridge these topics (High speed
packet on the microwave bands, packet operation via satellite, etc.).
Speaker sessions are typically 20 to 30 minutes in length.  HamCom æ96
runs Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, June 7 - 9, with speakerÆs forums all
day Saturday and morning on Sunday.

If you are interested in speaking at HamCom æ96, or have suggestions for
speakers, please contact me at email address [e-mail], or via phone
at [phone].

Craig S. Young, KA5BOU

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Texas Instruments Incorporated
2501 W. University, MS 8041           email: [e-mail]
McKinney, TX 75070                    phone: [phone]
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From: [e-mail] (Eugene F. Kremzier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HELP APRS + PK232
Date: 6 Jan 1996 20:43:20 GMT
Organization: BuffNET
Lines: 1
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:47 1996
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From: Spinbird <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Hobby URLS
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 10:44:13 -1000
Organization: FlexNet Inc, HAWAII
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: mango.aloha.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi!
        Is anyone finding and keeping a list of Hobby related URLS (websites)?

        If you are, please publish them here or e-mail to me.

        Much thanks!

[e-mail]       KE6DJH
<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>---


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:48 1996
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!daily-planet.execpc.com!usenet
From: JP Taylor <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IRCs
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 00:19:59 -0800
Organization: Exec-PC BBS - Milwaukee, WI
Lines: 7
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4a (Win16; I)

A while ago, someone mentioned that, at times, IRCs are available from
some QSL managers at a discount.  I would appreciate any information as
to who may have some available.

Thanks,
Jim Taylor, K9JT
[e-mail]


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:49 1996
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From: Chris Boone <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is ACC (Advanced Computer Controls) still around?
Date: 6 Jan 1996 01:30:18 GMT
Organization: ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities
Lines: 28
Message-ID: <4ckjba$p9n$[e-mail]>
References: <4ch2rb$[e-mail]>

ACC sold out as of July 25 1995 to LinkCom....they were basically
closed anyway for months before that...

I have a RC850 with V3.8 in it.....the software can be obtained
free at LinkCom's FTP site (ftp.netins.net in directory
showcase/linkcomm/acc). I have docs on 3.5 to 3.8 changes if you
need them...I dont think LinkCom got copies of the manuals..

btw LinkCom is on the Net......you can drop them a line here and
Steve or Alan will be happy to help as much as they can..

[e-mail] is their address


I currently own RC850 sn363, two SM100 Shackmasters, and a ITC32

and two RLC 3s from Linkcomm....

I dont think there was an update for the DVR...

73
Chris

--
Senior Telecommunications Technician  [e-mail]
ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities         1:106/4267 FIDOnet
WB5ITT - Advanced Class               BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS)
PG-9-5322  FCC Commercial             409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 96 01:44:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Is ACC (Advanced Computer Controls) still around?
References: <4ch2rb$[e-mail]> <4ckjba$p9n$[e-mail]>
Organization: North Texas PC User's Group
X-Newsreader: TPCB 0.8 21100010
Lines: 18

==========================================================================

Ed Ingber, former owner of ACC, is available on the Internet and has
been answering questions from his former customers.  This is likely the
best mechanism for technical information...  If I had his address
handy, I would post it now.

Link Com purchased the existing inventory of ACC; some items they have,
and some they don't.  This will present some challenges for us over
time, particularly when we experience lightning damage.

     Regards, TOM BLACKWELL, N5GAR, PO Box 25403, Dallas, Texas 75225
              [e-mail]           ARRL SGL-North Texas
                      The NTPCUG's TI PRO BBS lives at [phone]

---
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Where a Mc is a stereo, not a computer.



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:51 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: 6 Jan 1996 18:17:57 GMT
Organization: Planet Access - Stanhope, NJ
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <4cmecm$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.)

>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:

>
>
>  Do you live in the immediate vicinity of this station?  If do, do a
>  little DF'ing.  A pin in the coax can work wonders.
>
>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>   KF4DDM
>
here we gp again.  Hey drew?? is there  ahything you can suggest besides somet
hing that is illegal??  how would
you feel if someone, like chris, came down and pinned your CB coax??  then you
 wouldn't be able to work your
illegal CB DX on 5 watts with a 102" steel whip?

get a grip, suggest useful stuff



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:52 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: 7 Jan 1996 15:08:15 GMT
Organization: Planet Access - Stanhope, NJ
Lines: 22
Message-ID: <4conkv$[e-mail]>
References: <4cnpv2$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: stan54.planet.net
X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.)

>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:

>  And what would you suggest?  "Call the FCC?"  Yeah, right!  A lot of good
>  that's going to do.  If you're lucky, he might get a "please discontinue
>  your apparent illegal activity" form letter like they send out to 1KW
>  CB'ers these days.  He asked for a solution to his problem and I provided
>  one.  If you'd rather play footsie with the guy by "asking him nicely"
>  and waste time with the FCC, go ahead.  A carefully-placed pin in the
>  coax will solve the problem...inexpensively and immediately.
>
>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>   KF4DDM
>


Be my guest..just let me know where to send flowers and donations after you've
 been shot for trespassing.
Obviously this sort of thing is what y'all do down there...BTW do you also go
cow tipping???

i got to party with you guys

steve



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: 7 Jan 1996 15:53:06 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
Lines: 43
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4coq92$[e-mail]>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com
X-Newsreader: Version 1.2

[e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI) wrote:
>
>>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:
>
>>  And what would you suggest?  "Call the FCC?"  Yeah, right!  A lot of
good
>>  that's going to do.  If you're lucky, he might get a "please
discontinue
>>  your apparent illegal activity" form letter like they send out to 1KW

>>  CB'ers these days.  He asked for a solution to his problem and I
provided
>>  one.  If you'd rather play footsie with the guy by "asking him
nicely"
>>  and waste time with the FCC, go ahead.  A carefully-placed pin in the

>>  coax will solve the problem...inexpensively and immediately.
>>
>>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>>   KF4DDM
>>
>
>
>Be my guest..just let me know where to send flowers and donations after
you've been shot for trespassing.

Oh yeah...I forgot to add the (obvious) disclaimer:  DON'T GET CAUGHT!
If you're stupid enough to get caught, you deserve whatever punishment
you may receive.


>Obviously this sort of thing is what y'all do down there...BTW do you
also go cow tipping???

No.  They don't do that down here.  But they did when I lived in Iowa.  I
have some friends up there who would love to teach you.  They also like
to drive around in the beds of pickup trucks, drink beer, and throw the
bottles at road signs ("sign targets")  Interested?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:55 1996
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.socketis.net!usenet
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: K1MAN ...... is this guy for real ?
Date: 7 Jan 1996 21:02:56 GMT
Organization: SOCKET Internet Services INN site
Lines: 22
Message-ID: <4cpce0$[e-mail]>
References: <4ch721$[e-mail]> <4cmecm$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
NNTP-Posting-Host: op015.socketis.net
X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2

In <4cmecm$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing
, NJ writes:
>>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:
>
>>
>>
>>  Do you live in the immediate vicinity of this station?  If do, do a
>>  little DF'ing.  A pin in the coax can work wonders.
>>
>>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>>   KF4DDM
>>
>here we gp again.  Hey drew?? is there  ahything you can suggest besides some
thing that is illegal??  how would
>you feel if someone, like chris, came down and pinned your CB coax??  then yo
u wouldn't be able to work your
>illegal CB DX on 5 watts with a 102" steel whip?
>
>get a grip, suggest useful stuff
>
Agreed, especially since K1MAN has previously demonstrated a tendency to
sue anyone who makes comments or does things even remotely threatening
to him or his activities.

73 - Alan Braun NS0B


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KB7ZHA)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KPC Command set
Date: 5 Jan 1996 01:58:03 GMT
Organization: .
Lines: 10
Message-ID: <4ci0jb$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 157.57.12.223
Mime-Version: 1.0
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14

Does anyone have a sofy copy of the Kantronics KPC series command set?  By
this I mean a text file or Word document...

Email to [e-mail]

thanks,
Dan
KB7ZHA




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John A. Sutliff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Like your comments on "Code Quick" CW Training program
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 14:16:04 GMT
Organization: GE Corp R&D Center, Schenectady NY
Lines: 8
Message-ID: <4cr8t7$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: backscatter.crd.ge.com

Please let me know what you think of the Code Quick CW training
program.

thanks and 73
KB2WFW

John Sutliff



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Matt Overholt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Mac Packet
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 18:25:23 -0500
Organization: Grand Rapids Free-Net
Lines: 10
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: pm088-01.dialip.mich.net

I was wondering if anyone has any experience in packet radio with the
macintosh, and can lead me into the right direction for such things and
packet modems and software.

Thanks,
Matt Overholt
KC8BMI

--
Matt Overholt


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:42:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Chris Smolinski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Macintosh Radio Control Beta Testers wanted
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 13:19:40 -0500
Organization: Smolinski Scientific Systems, Inc.
Lines: 32
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.1
Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:96582 rec.radio.shortwave:68514

Beta Testers for Macintosh Radio Control Software for Yaesu and Kenwood
radios are wanted. You must have a Macintosh (color display required) and
a radio with the necessary computer interface, and be willing to test many
versions of the software. (I don't have either of these radios, so I am
unable to test it out myself)

What will you get out of it? Well, besides the satisfaction of helping
debug some shareware Macintosh software, you'll get a free registered copy
of the final version, and the ability to provide input to the design,
which means the software will have the features you're interested in.

I will also be looking for Beta Testers for Lowe, Drake, Japan Radio, and
AOR radios in the future, as soon as I obtain the protocol information and
modify the software to support those rigs.

If anyone has copies of the protocols for these radios, I'd appreciate
getting a copy, or finding out where I can get the information (is it
online?)

Thanks,

Chris
N3JLY

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From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:00 1996
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From: Jack Satterfield <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MARS info
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 18:33:33 -0800
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: dd66-135.compuserve.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win16; I)

Can anyone advise if they know of a way to send a email to a MARS station for
packet delivery to a final MARS destination? Or, any other way to send a
email that would ultimately be delivered by a specific MARS location.

Tnx

Jack
WA4GRJ
[e-mail]


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Philippe, VE2IBJ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Message pour VE2DBM
Date: 6 Jan 1996 15:01:32 GMT
Organization: generation.net (MontrΘal)
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X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5

Salut Boul,

tu m'enverras tes messages dans le newsgroup mtl.test
n'oublie pas rpondre a tous pour me confirmer la reception

73
--
Philippe Maynard ([e-mail])
Beloeil, Qc
CANADA
Indicatif Radio Amateur: VE2IBJ



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tedd Doda)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: mods for alinco 6 mtr????
Date: 6 Jan 1996 13:21:46 GMT
Organization: Lazer Audio and Electronics
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Message-ID: <4clt1a$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: NetSuite News for OS/2 [version: 4.0]

In message <4ce2ir$[e-mail]> - [e-mail] () writes:
:>
:>HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
:>I have been looking for mods on the alinco 6mtr mobile for 6 months now.
:>anybody have them.
:>thanks
:>jeff
:>

Hi Jeff. This was taken from the nasa site:

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Mike Gathergood)
Subject: Re: Mods for Alinco DRM06?
References: <3k0qur$[e-mail]>
Organization: CQ-BBS [phone]
Reply-To: [e-mail]
X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29
Lines: 42
X-Posting-Host: g4kfk.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 1995 15:24:49 +0000
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail]

Hi William,

> Anyone have any information on the new Alinco DRM06 6 meter radio.

I have one of those here. The bands a bit quiet over here, and as you
might have seen in uk.radio.amateur there is a very heated debate over
the proposed repeater network on 51 MHz.

> According to a very informed source there is a mod, but this person would
> not tell me what it is. I would like to know the frequency range transmit
> and receive. To any Net Police out there warming up your flamers. I might
> need a signal genarator and want the radio to do double duty. E-mail me if
> you like.

Simple trick to extend receive range to 40.00 - 59.99 MHz:

1/ Power the radio off
2/ Power on whilst holding in the CALL / CH. SP. button

That's it! To go back to 50.00 - 53.99 just repeat the above steps.
I have done this to my DRM06 and can confirm it works.

There's a hardware mod for extended transmit/receive. I have NOT done this,
but have been assured by the Technical Editor of a respected UK ham radio
magazine that it's ok. The coverage will become 40.000 to 72+ MHz, though
I understand that the power falls off at the top end, and the receiver
performance is lousy on the (UK only) 70.000 to 70.500 (4m) ham band:

1/ Remove the front panel (I know that's easier said than done. That's why
   I haven't tried it yet!)
2/ Locate a pair of solder blobs on the pcb directly behind the display and
   short them together.
3/ Re-assemble (again, easier said than done).

Hope this helps.

73
Mike
G4KFK
The CQ Centre BBS
Node 1 - 44 1753 595468
Node 2 - 44 1753 593524


Hope this helps. I'll try this mod next time I can get the radio out
of my wifes car (or should I say, next time I *GET* my wifes car, hi!)

Best 73

Tedd




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:05 1996
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From: [e-mail](Bob Raymond )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Address for DXtreme Home Page
Date: 7 Jan 1996 05:07:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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Message-ID: <4cnkdu$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-nas-nh1-08.ix.netcom.com
X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jan 06  9:07:19 PM PST 1996

New Address for the DXtreme Home Page

The DXtreme Home Page has the following new address:

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1702/

A freeware, Demo version of the DXtreme Amateur Radio Station Log
System(tm) is available from the DXtreme Home Page.  DXtreme(tm) lets
you enter your contacts and track the DXCC performance of your station.

73,

Bob Raymond, NE1I
[e-mail]



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:06 1996
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Subject: Re: New Plastic IMPERVIOUS to LASERS?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (USENET NEWS SYSTEM)
Nntp-Posting-Host: netport-71.iu.net
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)
Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 04:54:43 GMT
Lines: 14
Xref: news.epix.net alt.conspiracy:72606 rec.radio.amateur.misc:96554

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Feustel) writes:
>Netcom crashed yesterday and I lost files. One of the files
>was a report on a new plastic developed in England that has
>unprecedented ability to resist lasers and other radiation.
>(i.e. real suitable for protecting satellites, missiles, etc.
>from high energy attack.)

sounds like a mirror to me...or a solar cell.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



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Subject: Re: New Plastic IMPERVIOUS to LASERS?
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Here is the original article I was looking for:
------------------------------------------------
MAURICE WARD AND THE PLASTIC THAT CAN RESIST A NUCLEAR BLAST

by David Levenson

[IMAGE] Maurice Ward of London, England, who was once a hairdresser,
has been a recycler of plastics for several years. He has invented a
plastic that can resist the heat of a nuclear blast. He calls the
plastic "Starlite". It is as stiff as rubber sheeting and is waxy to
the touch.

[IMAGE] Starlite has been tested by shooting it with laser beams with
enough energy to produce spot temperatures of over 10,000C. Scientists
say that nothing should slough off that much energy. The hardiest
metals vaporize above 2,000C. Scientists were amazed when a major
British industrial lab couldn't damage Starlite with a plasma torch.
The same torch can cut through 18 inches of steel.

Scientists are impressed with Ward's invention. No one knows the
secret to this plastic except a few of Ward's family members. It is
speculated that the plastic contains silicon carbide which is an
excellent heat conductor. It is conceivable, scientists say, that
someone could create something like this in their home just by
combining various non-polymeric materials with flame-retarding
chemicals and existing plastics.

Starlite could possibly be used to protect spy satellites from laser
weapon or the shields on tanks that could fend off the heat of a
nuclear blast. Starlite is also being test for use as a shield on
ballistic missiles to prevent overheating when reentering the
atmosphere.


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From: [e-mail] (Dan Major)
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Subject: Re: New Plastic IMPERVIOUS to LASERS?
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In article <[e-mail]>,
David Feustel <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Here is the original article I was looking for:
>------------------------------------------------
>MAURICE WARD AND THE PLASTIC THAT CAN RESIST A NUCLEAR BLAST
>
>by David Levenson
>
>[IMAGE] Maurice Ward of London, England, who was once a hairdresser,
>has been a recycler of plastics for several years. He has invented a
>plastic that can resist the heat of a nuclear blast. He calls the
>plastic "Starlite". It is as stiff as rubber sheeting and is waxy to
>the touch.
>
>[IMAGE] Starlite has been tested by shooting it with laser beams with
>enough energy to produce spot temperatures of over 10,000C. Scientists
>say that nothing should slough off that much energy. The hardiest
>metals vaporize above 2,000C. Scientists were amazed when a major
>British industrial lab couldn't damage Starlite with a plasma torch.
>The same torch can cut through 18 inches of steel.
>
>Scientists are impressed with Ward's invention. No one knows the
>secret to this plastic except a few of Ward's family members. It is
>speculated that the plastic contains silicon carbide which is an
>excellent heat conductor. It is conceivable, scientists say, that
>someone could create something like this in their home just by
>combining various non-polymeric materials with flame-retarding
>chemicals and existing plastics.
>

Well, my reaction is: if it don't melt, how can you mould it? If it
is the toughest stuff ever made, how do you cut it? If it's an acid
so strong it will eat through anything, what do you keep it in? I
think the key is probably the heat dissipation. Ever try to melt a
penny with a torch? It's very difficult because the copper can
dissapate the heat so well. Copper blocks are also notoriously difficult
to weld/solder to.


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>==========David Feustel, 1/7/96==========
>
>Here is the original article I was looking for:
>------------------------------------------------
>MAURICE WARD AND THE PLASTIC THAT CAN RESIST A NUCLEAR BLAST
>
>by David Levenson
>
>[IMAGE] Maurice Ward of London, England, who was once a hairdresser,
>has been a recycler of plastics for several years. He has invented a
>plastic that can resist the heat of a nuclear blast. He calls the
>plastic "Starlite". It is as stiff as rubber sheeting and is waxy to
>the touch.
>
>[IMAGE] Starlite has been tested by shooting it with laser beams with
>enough energy to produce spot temperatures of over 10,000C. Scientists
>say that nothing should slough off that much energy. The hardiest
>metals vaporize above 2,000C. Scientists were amazed when a major
>British industrial lab couldn't damage Starlite with a plasma torch.
>The same torch can cut through 18 inches of steel.
>
>Scientists are impressed with Ward's invention. No one knows the
>secret to this plastic except a few of Ward's family members. It is
>speculated that the plastic contains silicon carbide which is an
>excellent heat conductor. It is conceivable, scientists say, that
>someone could create something like this in their home just by
>combining various non-polymeric materials with flame-retarding
>chemicals and existing plastics.
>
>Starlite could possibly be used to protect spy satellites from laser
>weapon or the shields on tanks that could fend off the heat of a
>nuclear blast. Starlite is also being test for use as a shield on
>ballistic missiles to prevent overheating when reentering the
>atmosphere.
>
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>
>[IMAGE] [IMAGE] [IMAGE] [IMAGE]
>[Previous|Black Star Home Page|Photo Resources|Next]
>_________________________________________________________________
>
>Copyright 1995 Black Star Publishing Co., Inc. All photographs are the
>property of the photographers and the text/html files are the property
>of Black Star. The photographs and texts are protected under United
>States and international copyright laws and may not be reproduced,
>stored, manipulated, and/or digitized without the written permission
>of Black Star.
>Last Modified June 13, 1995
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who needs a new plastic?  haven't you seen that car wax commercial that
protects against lasers?


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From: [e-mail] (Your Name)
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Subject: Re: New Plastic IMPERVIOUS to LASERS?
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk) wrote:

! In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Feustel) writes
:
! >Netcom crashed yesterday and I lost files. One of the files
! >was a report on a new plastic developed in England that has
! >unprecedented ability to resist lasers and other radiation.
! >(i.e. real suitable for protecting satellites, missiles, etc.
! >from high energy attack.)
!
! sounds like a mirror to me...or a solar cell.
!
! Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
! Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
! Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
! Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.

I actually saw this on television about 6 months ago. The guy demonstrated
the heat resistance of the plastic live on TV. Sorry I can't remember the
program or network that carried it.


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[e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) wrote:
>
>
>  10-4 ??
>
God...I wish I had said that.
Brian



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does anyone know of or the wherabout of K1CZQ? he was my teacher when i
was in school many years ago. we use to talk 2 meters from the top
of mountains in new hampshire. please respond to e-mail
[e-mail]



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Subject: Power for Heathkit HA-14 linear?
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Does anyone know the power supply voltages for the Heathkit HA-14 H.F.
Linear? I am particularily interested in the bias supply voltage. Please
send e-mail to   [e-mail]

Thanks,



W6SZX

Gary



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Subject: Re: Radio Computer Interface Protocols Wanted
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[e-mail] (Chris Smolinski) wrote:
>I am looking for information about the protocols used by  Lowe, Drake,
>Japan Radio, and AOR radios for their computer interfaces. I plan on
>modifying the shareware Macintosh radio interface software I already have
>for Icom rigs. (Kenwood and Yaesu versions are already under development)
>

Chris,

Try this URL (http://www.demon.co.uk:80/javiation/ar8000.html)

Good luck

Ardon.




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From: [e-mail] (Vincent Socci ph2828)
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Not necessarily ham-related, but interesting nonetheless.
An oldy, but a goody.
(No verification of source)


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Subject: FW: Joke of the Day!: navigating by net?

<forwards diverted by 15 degrees>

======================================================================
Actual radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations,
10-10-95.
======================================================================

Voice #1:  Please divert your course 15 degrees to the North
           to avoid a collision.

Voice #2:  Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to South
           to avoid a collision.

Voice #1:  This is the Captain of a US Navy ship. I say again,
           divert YOUR course.

Voice #2:  No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.

Voice #1.  THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER ENTERPRISE, WE ARE A
           LARGE WARSHIP OF THE US NAVY. DIVERT YOUR COURSE NOW!

Voice #2.  This is a lighthouse. Your call.



         ____________________________________________________________________
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From: [e-mail] (Dany Bouchard)
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Salut Philippe, mes messages ont pas l'air a se rendre, je sais pas ce qui
cloche, tu me rΘpondras si tu en recois.

Salut, VE2DBM



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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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That is so silly, no ham would ever interfere with anybody with something
hams have no interest in.

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>
> Somewhere I remember seeing software that lets you use a PC soundcard, like
> a SoundBlaster, as an AF spectrum analyzer.  I'm not sure if it required
> you to have your own noise generator, or if it generated noise or had
> a tracking generator simulator built in or what.  Anyone know anything
> about it?  Anyone have it?  Does it work well?  How does it work?
>
I was using a modplayer called Visual Player by a Spanish guy whose name I
don't remember some time ago. It was running completely in VGA graphics and
was controlled by a mouse. It could only play 4-channel MODs unfortunately.
The point is, that the registered version included so called ADC mode, which
allowed the spectrum analyzer to be used on about any input signal. The
only trouble was, that you couldn't set the sampling rate (I've got a SB16),
which was preset at an unknown value. As far as I know, there are no further
versions available.
I also remember noticing several files in MS-DOS/sound part of SIMTEL
archive, that claimed to contain spectrum analyzers for SB/PAS soundcards.
Check out your favourite mirror.
Some useful info might also reside somewhere on x2ftp.oulu.fi , probably in
the /pub/msdos/programming/ directory.

Hope this helps.

Frank

BTW.: Has anyone come across audio signal equalization algorithms? I mean
I'm just a rookie interested in how it works, I have some general ideas.
I'm not interested in buying books.


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In article <197cc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>>Somewhere I remember seeing software that lets you use a PC soundcard,
like
>>a SoundBlaster, as an AF spectrum analyzer.  I'm not sure if it
required
>>you to have your own noise generator, or if it generated noise or had
>>a tracking generator simulator built in or what.  Anyone know anything
>>about it?  Anyone have it?  Does it work well?  How does it work?
>
>>Please respond by email.  Thanks.
>
>>                                                       --- Jeff
>>--
>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-=-
>> Jeff DePolo  WN3A            Twisted Pair: H:610-337-7383
W:215-387-3059 x300
>> [e-mail]  RF: 442.1 442.2 442.4 443.45 443.8 444.15
linked
>> Claim to Fame: I got the first speeding ticket on the information
superhighway
     One source is Pioneer Hill Software, 24460 Mason Rd., Poulsbo,
WA 98370, 206-697-3472. They have two version of their software
called Spectra and Spectra Plus. I uses Windows 3.1 and any sound
board that is windows compatible. It is a single channel analyzer.
Have the Spectrum Plus and it works very well.

                 Jack   WB3ICL    [e-mail]



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From: Philip Chien <[e-mail]>
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In article <4ccclq$[e-mail]> Thomas Grant Edwards,
[e-mail] writes:
>
>The preliminary orbital elements below may be used to simulate or
predict
>when SPRE will pass over your location.  It can be loaded into most any
>satellite tracking program.  For best results, be sure your simulations
>use the dates and time listed in the Mission Summary above.
>
>Note:   These preliminary elements are for Spartan Spacecraft only, not
>        the shuttle.  They are subject to change.
>
>SPRE-00
>1 40000U SPRE-00  96014.48984950  .00001770  00000-0  00000-0 0    11
>2 40000  28.4779  71.7928 0011310 189.8166 358.1771 15.85695266    18

Be extremely cautious before making firm plans with these preliminary
elements.  A reliable source has told me that the Japanese Space Flyer
Unit (SFU) has had some problems, so the shuttle will almost certainly
have to use a different rendezvous profile to reach SFU.  This will
certainly require more propellant.  And the OAST-FLYER's flight plan will
probably change.  It may be as simple as a higher orbit, but probably
will involve some shifting of the orbital plane for the freeflight period.

Preliminary elements are excellent for calculating the lengths of passes,
look angles, and to a lesser degree adequate for calculating sun angles
and lighting conditions.  But always rely on the true post-launch keps
whenever possible.

(I did run the above keps, and it turns out I've got nine excellent
passes for the predicted time.  But all in the middle of the night.  Now
if I can only delay the mission long enough for SFU's orbit to precess in
to daylight passes ....)

Philip Chien, Earth News - space writer and consultant  [e-mail]
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 Roger, go at throttle up         CHR$(32) the final frontier


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:25 1996
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From: Jim Nance <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: super morse 404
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 11:19:16 -0500
Organization: OneNet Communications (one.net)
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Jack Yazel wrote:
>
> : For many months now I see many posts referring to SM 4.10 and SM 4.15 is
> : mentioned here. I don't know the current version but as info, I
> : downloaded SM 4.16 about a year ago.
>
> :             KE4WY
>
>    Where did you get it?
>
>        W8RAG


Jack I knew someone was going to ask me that. Honestly I can't remember.
I thought it was AOL.

         KE4WY


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:25 1996
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From: "Christopher A. Bowne" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Suscribing to Boatanchors Mail Reflector
Date: 6 Jan 1996 06:15:25 GMT
Organization: Continuum Communications Inc.
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I have not been sucessful (so far as I can tell) in
actually suscribing to the boatanchors mail reflector.
While I have sucessfully received the FAQ, welcome, and
help lists, suscribing using the message "suscribe
boatanchors name" format specified in the help list has
not produced anything.  When I tried to set the digest
mode, "set boatanchors digest" message, I got an error
message saying that I wasn't suscribed.

Anyone have any idea as to what, if anything, I am doing
wrong?  The welcome message implies that "voluntary"
contributions are required "to ensure continued receipt"
of the list.  Is a contribution a prerequisite for
suscribtion to the list?

73,

Chris, AJ1G
Stonington, CT
[e-mail]



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rescue International)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Temp Licence in Taiwan ?
Date: 6 Jan 1996 08:35:50 GMT
Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service
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Does anyone here know if foreign licenced ham (eg. I'm a 9V) are
allowed short period licence in Taiwan, ROC ?

I'm interested to operate there for a few weeks sometime in June
this year.  Perhaps some of you chaps have done this before.

- Chew / 9V1YP

NNNN




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:27 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: The makeup of hams.
Date: 7 Jan 1996 15:42:00 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ej Johnson) wrote:
>
>Good  comments! I could'nt agree more! if we ignore them they will go
>away...just like all jammers.

It takes guts to ignore somthing that angers you.
And we all know how much guts hams have.


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)




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From: [e-mail] (Greg Vincent)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This news group
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 96 18:36:26 GMT
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Looks like Fido Net trash not internet... Just a bunch of bickering.


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:29 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #145 (for air through 1/12/96)
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 23:43:14 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #145 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 12-Jan:
-
1.   DOVE OSCAR 17 Satellite Fails Again, Problem May Be On-Board
2.   WD4ASW KO-23 Satellite Gateway Node Back in Operation
3.   License Applications Pile Up as Shutdown Keeps FCC Closed
4.   Congress Reaches Agreement on Telecommunications Law Reform
5.   Apple Experiences License Renewal Problems - with Microsoft
6.   Well Known Australian RTTY DXer Succumbs to a Heart Attack
7.   Upcoming Special Event Stations with George Bowen, N2LQS
8.   "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
9.   Kansas City Broadcasters Test New Emergency Alerting System
10.  "This Week" Moves to Telesat Canada Anik E2 Later This Month
11.  Weekly Propagation Forecast
12.  New DX Program to be Carried by Shortwave Station
13.  "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #960 from Los Angeles
14.  "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST) and carried on VHF/UHF
repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.
Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Here in the Capital District, "This Week in Amateur Radio" is heard
on our "flagship" repeater, WA2OQE/R in Troy, on 145.33 MHz,
courtesy of the Niagara-Mohawk Amateur Radio Club.  The program is
repeated Mondays at 8:00 PM.
-
Due to the loss of satellite facilities, the service is being
carried exclusively on 160 meters and on the local 145.33 repeater.
The "Tech Talk Network" awaits the signing of a contract with the
new satellite uplink carrier.  "This Week in Amateur Radio" should
return to satellite air later this month.  Details will be posted
as conditions warrant.  All affiliates are requested to contact the
producers for further information.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.


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From: Sean McDonald <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TimeWave DSP - 599ZX or MFJ-784B DSP
Date: 5 Jan 1996 22:27:17 GMT
Organization: Internet Africa
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Message-ID: <4ck8k5$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slipper101135.iafrica.com

Hi.
I am interested in the above DSP units for an addition to
my ham shack. I would be interested in hearing from anyone
with experience in using any one of the above units, or
anyone who has compared the two units, or has information on
them, which one is recommended.

Thanks
Sean McDonald
ZS5TM
email: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Don Snider)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TimeWave DSP - 599ZX or MFJ-784B DSP
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 00:27:17 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, USA
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Sean McDonald <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Hi.
>I am interested in the above DSP units for an addition to
>my ham shack. I would be interested in hearing from anyone
>with experience in using any one of the above units, or
>anyone who has compared the two units, or has information on
>them, which one is recommended.
>
I've had a 599zx on order for months and still haven't seen one.
Timewave reports that it will be available this month.

Don


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TNC EPROM needed
Date: 6 Jan 1996 14:16:56 GMT
Organization: UniComp Technologies International Corp -- Internet Service
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>   [e-mail] (KB7ZHA) writes:
>  I just picked up a Kantronics KPC-1 TNC but is only has ver 2.83.  I need
>  version 3.0 or better.  I would like  to get a soft copy of the the EPROM
>  and then just burn my own.   Email info to [e-mail]
>
>  Thanks in advance...
>
>  Dan
>  KB7ZHA
>
>
>>>>
Why don't you jus call Kantronics and buy one?  Probably about $30.

I think that would be better than copying the software and definitely more eth
ical.

Just my 2 cents.





Regards,


James ([e-mail])



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:33 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Top Ten ARRL resolutions for 1996
Date: 6 Jan 1996 02:26:59 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mary Lee) wrote:
>
>And the number on 1996 ARRL resolution:
>
>1.   Turn hams into mindless zombies with stupid new self serving ideals.

That one is done.

#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Judd)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Top Ten ARRL resolutions for 1996
Date: 7 Jan 1996 02:20:19 GMT
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>>Not a problem; it wouldn't fit on his tricycle.
>
>Nor could he tattoo it on any appendage!  Anyway, his memory is too
>short to remember it..
>
    If it was tatooed on his rear, you could call it a mural



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:36 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Top Ten ARRL resolutions for 1996
Date: 7 Jan 1996 15:35:38 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>Nor could he tattoo it on any appendage!  Anyway, his memory is too
>short to remember it..

I could fit it into your 2"


#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:37 1996
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From: [e-mail](Dave Bushong )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TV disturbs radio
Date: 7 Jan 1996 00:30:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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References: <4cmpc4$[e-mail]>
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X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jan 06  4:30:04 PM PST 1996

Hi Manfred,

In <4cmpc4$[e-mail]> mvogel@134.96.68.11 (Manfred Vogelgesang)
writes:

>My problem is:
>Listening to shortwave (this also means the ham bands), I get a lot of
>trouble with TV sets in our house (and to a less degree from the
>neighbourhood, too). About every 15 kHz, I get a lot of interference
>by TV when listening to my shortwave radio. DXing is considerably
>restricted then.

You're not alone - TVs have a horizontal sweep at 15.575 (or is it 15.750? I
forget).  It's 15 kHz and some change :)  Anyway, your problem is one that we
all
share.

>So what could I do? I know that there might be some filters, although
>I can't find them in any shop here.

There is a company called JPS Communications, Inc. that has some filter produc
ts
that might help.  I received a catalog from them today in the mail.  They have
 a
WWW page at http://emporium.turnpike.net/J/JPS/jps.html  You can look at what
they have.  I haven't heard much from anyone who owns them, but what I have he
ard
is very positive.

>Are audio filters, notch filters ... also effective against TV
>interference? What about preselectors?

Well, notch filters might help some, but the signal is so raspy that it's hard
 to
null out if you are trying to receive something like CW (Morse code).
If you are trying to get AM broadcast, you might be able to use a
simple DSP unit, like the one Radio Shack sells.  But you have to
remember that the signal that you are receiving sounds like a
legitimate signal to your receiver, so it tries to get it just as hard
as it tries to get the "real" signal.  A preselector would just make
the interference not get interfered with :(

>If someone might give me a hint, I would be very glad. But please
>consider that I am not very talented or experienced in constructing
>devices on my own.

That depends.  Do you have access to the TV (is it yours, or a
neighbors)?  There is a metallic spray that you can use - it looks like
a can of spray paint - that you can spray on the inside of the TV
cabinet, and it will help reduce interference of this kind.  You can
also glue aluminum foil to the inside of the cabinet (be careful to
keep vent holes clear).

Hope this helps, and 73!

Dave KZ1O



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:38 1996
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From: mvogel@134.96.68.11 (Manfred Vogelgesang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: TV disturbs radio
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 21:22:51 GMT
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Hi,

although I am no radio amateur (at least so far), I thought, it would
be a good idea to ask a question in this group, where experts might
read it.

My problem is:
Listening to shortwave (this also means the ham bands), I get a lot of
trouble with TV sets in our house (and to a less degree from the
neighbourhood, too). About every 15 kHz, I get a lot of interference
by TV when listening to my shortwave radio. DXing is considerably
restricted then.
So what could I do? I know that there might be some filters, although
I can't find them in any shop here.
Are audio filters, notch filters ... also effective against TV
interference? What about preselectors?

If someone might give me a hint, I would be very glad. But please
consider that I am not very talented or experienced in constructing
devices on my own.

Hoping to get answers
Best 73

Manfred





From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:39 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur
Subject: Vancouver newspaper blames Ham Radio Ops for Police Jamming
Date: 8 Jan 1996 21:32:33 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct
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From: The Province Newspaper, page A21
Dated: Sunday, January 7, 1996.

Reprinted without permission.
Non-copyrighted story.

By-line:   AURAL SEX TUNED IN

By:  Roberta Staley, Staff Reporter


        A ham radio operator is endangering lives by jamming police
radio channels with recordings of a couple having sex.

        "It's extremely dangerous," Vancouver police Insp. Al Forbes
said last night.

        "It not only puts the people we're trying to protect in jeopardy
by jamming the channel, it also puts our own members at risk," Forbes said.

        The pornographic sounds and two blasts of country music were
first heard Thursday night about midnight. The second incident happened
several times last night starting about 7 p.m., said Forbes.

        "I think it's a video and they're playing the sound-track over
the channel."

        Police switch the channel off and begin communicating on another
one. The cheeky radio operator also switches over, jamming the new channel.

        "They obviously know all the frequencies," Forbes said.

        In emergencies, police can be heard over the interference,
although it remains distracting, he added.

        The inspector said it's unlikely the radio pervert will be
caught.

End of story.

=================================================================

To reach the Province newspaper to comment on this story:

Fax:  [phone]   or  732-2099

Telephone: [phone]

Email:

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

end of message.



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Vancouver newspaper blames Ham Radio Ops for Police Jamming
Date: 8 Jan 1996 20:03:24 -0500
Organization: Ideamation, Inc.
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In article <4cs2hh$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>       A ham radio operator is endangering lives by jamming police
>radio channels with recordings of a couple having sex.

If I didn't know any better, I'd guess that Drew was up in Vancouver
pinning coaxes.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur
Subject: Re: Vancouver newspaper blames Ham Radio Ops for Police Jamming
Date: 9 Jan 1996 03:56:51 GMT
Organization: Virtual Publishing Co.
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In article <4cs2hh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>From: The Province Newspaper, page A21
>Dated: Sunday, January 7, 1996.
>
>Reprinted without permission.
>Non-copyrighted story.
>
>By-line:   AURAL SEX TUNED IN
>
>By:  Roberta Staley, Staff Reporter
>
>
>        A ham radio operator is endangering lives by jamming police
>radio channels with recordings of a couple having sex.
>

<rest deleted>

Yuck. Besides setting the newspaper straight, it would be useful for the local

Amateur community to assist the police with radio direction finding efforts in

locating the source of the interference. That's been done elsewhere and turned

an ugly situation into a great one.

Good luck,
Ed, KF7VY
------------------------
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Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at
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From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:42 1996
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ramlink.net!news
From: [e-mail]    (Joe Subich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: 6 Jan 1996 05:03:07 GMT
Organization: RAMLink Internet Access Service
Lines: 14
Message-ID: <4ckvqb$[e-mail]>
References: <4cjdj6$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]  (Joe Subich)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hun25.ramlink.net
X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2

In <4cjdj6$[e-mail]>, Steve Bramham <[e-mail]>
writes:
>I have the option of applying for previously held call signs
>WA4MPD or KH6HCR.
>

Unless you are in Hawaii (or at least have a mailing address there), you don't

have a choice.  The Commission annoncements indicate that they will not
issue "off shore" vanity calls to anyone in the continental 48.

    73,

    ... Joe Subich, AD8I
       ([e-mail])



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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: 8 Jan 1996 03:02:02 GMT
Organization: MicroBurst
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>The Commission annoncements indicate that they will not
>issue "off shore" vanity calls to anyone in the
>continental 48.

Well, that isn't EXACTLY what they said.  They WILL issue
an offshore call to you IF YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY HELD that
call, no matter where you live now (assuming the call is
not currently assigned to someone else).

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
- - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
      indistiguishable from magic."  A.C.Clarke
- - - Have you performed any radio magic
      this week?


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:44 1996
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From: Jason Reighard <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 96 21:57:03 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)
Lines: 7
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <4ckvqb$[e-mail]> <4cpq9c$[e-mail]>
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X-To: K1UM <[e-mail]>

K1UM <[e-mail]> writes:

>anyone know how long the FCC keeps a callsign around after it has
>expired?  The call I would like expired  Feb, 95.  It would be
>nice if they cancelled it in Feb 96!  Thanks .. Tom

I think the call has to be dead 5 years beore they re-issue it.


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:45 1996
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From: Steve Bramham <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: 9 Jan 1996 19:17:00 GMT
Organization: Turner Broadcasting System
Lines: 15
Message-ID: <4cuevc$[e-mail]>
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[e-mail]    (Joe Subich) wrote:
>
>>I have the option of applying for previously held call signs
>>WA4MPD or KH6HCR.

>Unless you are in Hawaii (or at least have a mailing address there), you don'
t
>have a choice.  The Commission annoncements indicate that they will not
>issue "off shore" vanity calls to anyone in the continental 48.
>INCORRECT. Since the KH6 call was a previously held call I AM eligible for re
assignment of this call under the Vanity Call Program.

The question is if you had the choice which call would you
prefer? I am eligible for either call sign under the existing
rules for vanity call sign assignment.




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:46 1996
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From: Thomas Martin <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: VB3_VB4
Date: 7 Jan 1996 13:01:55 GMT
Organization: Martin Enterprises
Lines: 9
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Does anyone know if VB3 and VB4 will coexist on the same
machine? I have a large user base that needs to remain
servicable while I make the transition to 32 bits. I can't take
ver 3 off at this time.

Thanks
Thomas Martin N5ZNO
[e-mail]



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:47 1996
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From: Tom Pfaffenbach <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Information reference MAB
Date: 5 Jan 1996 19:05:06 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics
Lines: 12
Distribution: usa
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"Lloyd A. Scott, Jr." <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Wanted: Any information concerning the WWII MAB Transceiver used by
>the US MArine Corps. Any help will be appreciated.
>Lloyd A. Scott, Jr.
>
Fair Radio (Lima, Ohio) has been selling the MAB transcievers for $6 to $12, f
or
the past few years. The carbon element microphone has been cut off.It is descr
ibed
as a WWII paratroop transceiver operating at approximately 4 Mhz. It uses tube
s of
the 1R5,1S4 variety. I believe that they supply a schematic diagram, and also
advertise a
headset and collapsible whip antenna. They describe the case as black molded p
lastic, which
sounds unusual for that period of time. It requires 1.5v "A" and 135v "B" dc p
ower.



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:49 1996
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From: "Christopher A. Bowne" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Information Reference MAB
Date: 7 Jan 1996 09:52:50 GMT
Organization: Continuum Communications Inc.
Lines: 24
Message-ID: <4co55i$[e-mail]>
References: <4cfsaf$[e-mail]> <4cjsp2$[e-mail]>
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You might want to get in touch with Mike, WB2UID,
in New Hampshire (don't know if he has E-mail address).
You can get at least his snail mailing address from the
QRZ casllsign locator site on the Web.  Mike had an MAB
running on 75 meters at a New Hamphire Hosstraders
hamfest a few years ago, and it was quite an amazing
little set!  The receiver was very good on it, as I
recall.

Another source might be W7VG Vintage Manuals in
Bartlesville, OK. (Gary Gompf) Gary has a lot of
military manuals.  His phone number is about as easy as
any for a ham to remember - 1-800-807-6146.

I take that back - I'll bet that there are lots of hams
operating rice-boxes that dont know an 807 from a 6146
from anything behind the front panels of their tiny
little boxes!

73,

Chris, AJ1G
Stonington, CT



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:49 1996
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From: "Lloyd A. Scott, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Information Reference MAB
Date: 9 Jan 1996 04:30:01 GMT
Organization: Television ENG / NEWS
Lines: 4
Message-ID: <4csr09$[e-mail]>
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To: [e-mail]

Hi Chris: Many thanks for the MAB info, I will check out the leads,
Thanks again
Lloyd A. Scott, Jr.



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:50 1996
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From: "Lloyd A. Scott, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Information reference MAB
Date: 9 Jan 1996 04:32:13 GMT
Organization: Television ENG / NEWS
Lines: 5
Message-ID: <4csr4d$[e-mail]>
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To: [e-mail]

Thanks for the info, the original radio was purchased from Fair and was
in good condition, however I did not receive a diagram or any information
with the radio. Your information is helpfull. Thanks again
Lloyd A. Scott, Jr.



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WANTED: Stories on the Blizzard of '96
Date: 9 Jan 1996 04:00:05 GMT
Organization: Virtual Publishing Co.
Lines: 13
Message-ID: <4csp85$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: vbook.accessone.com
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5

We are looking for any information about the  Blizzard of '96, especially if i
t
involves ham radio communications or any radio communications for that matter.

Please visit our web site and then send email to let us know if we can use you
r
story at our web page.

Thanks and 73,
Ed, KF7VY

------------------------
personal email to [e-mail]
Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED: Stories on the Blizzard of '96
Date: 9 Jan 1996 06:13:56 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Lines: 24
Message-ID: <4ct134$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0]

Ed Mitchell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: We are looking for any information about the  Blizzard of '96, especially if
 it
: involves ham radio communications or any radio communications for that matte
r.
: Please visit our web site and then send email to let us know if we can use y
our
: story at our web page.



There was a blizzard.
It snowed.
and snowed.
and snowed.
and snowed.
and snowed.
It was really cold.
It sucked hard-core.
I'm moving to Arizona.
That's how bad it sucked.
I hate snow.

Nate.
KB9LSX
You can reprint this if you want.



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:53 1996
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From: David Mclean <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space
Subject: Web Page with MODs, Calls lookup, Ham links, Swap page, and more!!
Date: 8 Jan 1996 00:34:53 GMT
Organization: Road Kill Cafe!
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <4cpord$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dfw.dfw.net
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:96612 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18314 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13531 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:23497 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:12589 rec.radio.amateur.policy:32440 rec.radio.amateur.space:6094

I would like to welcome all of you to my web page. The address of my web
page is "http://www.dfw.net/~dmclean". I have many links that you will
like. Here is a list of things that I have on my Web page:
1. Swap Page
2. Mods page
3. QRZ call lookup
4. Repeters freqs.
5. Links to F.C.C, A.R.R.L, and many more.
Check it out. You will like it.
--
                                                    David Mclean
                                              From The World of Hamradio
                                                   KC5NNV is Clear!
_________________________________________________________________________
-------------------------------------------------------------------------




From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ej Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this News
Date: Fri,  5 Jan 1996 15:03:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: The Digital Circus BBS [phone]
Distribution: world
Lines: 14

TL}}Perhaps what is needed is another newsgroup, rec.radio.amateur.flame,
TL}}since many here haven't apparently heard of alt.flame.  I suspect
TL}}it is like a jammer, instant audience.  And when the jammer gets a
TL}}response, he's succeeded.  If everyone ignored the inane taunts of folks l
i
TL}}Burt, the noise level in this newsgroup would be greatly reduced.

TL}}73,
TL}}Todd
TL}}N9MWB
Good  comments! I could'nt agree more! if we ignore them they will go
away...just like all jammers.
                EJ!
---
 * OLX 2.1 TD * "Not tonight baby.....I have a modem."


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:55 1996
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From: Avery Russell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this Newsgroup?
Date: 6 Jan 1996 16:30:14 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service [e-mail] 703-448-4470
Lines: 15
Message-ID: <4cm82p$[e-mail]>
References: <4ccg51$[e-mail]> <4cf6na$[e-mail]>
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To: [e-mail]

I wasn't making reference to any one posting with regards to "trashing".
I just think there are so many positive elements that surround the
amateur radio hobby that fall fay beyond that of the technology itself. I
don't want to preach, but I find the hobby as a way to put back into
society a sense of community. Now I am now referring to community
service, but just plain old community. The kind I experienced as a child
while walking down the main street in my home town. Now we have no main
streets, we have shopping malls. So, my belief is that our society's
fabric is torn, and amateur radio helps maintain something that was once
taken for granted. Now this has nothing to do with technology or code vs
no-code etc. It has to do with a bunch of folk getting together who
REALLY want to know how each other are doing.... Doe this make sense?
Your comments please.
Avery



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lincoln Thormahlen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Which Code Practice Oscillator?
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 02:08:50 GMT
Organization: Crown Net Inc.
Lines: 11
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4cklf9$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: crown29.crown.net
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

I was wondering if the code practice oscillator in the ARRL "Now Your
Talking" book is worth building, since the MJF 557 CPO costs only $25
plus shipping?

CPO comments welcome, CW flames NOT!

Lincoln Thormahlen
[e-mail]

Ham call sign NOT1YET



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Benji123Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Which Code Practice Oscillator?
Date: 6 Jan 1996 18:03:16 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Lines: 8
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Reply-To: [e-mail] (Benji123Z)
NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com

DON'T BUILD THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BUY THE MFJ CODE PRATICE OSCILLATOR ($24.95)

I HAVE ONE, IT WORKS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

73,
[e-mail] (Benji Jack)


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:43:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (gloria medcalf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Which Jack for HF Radio-to-TNC Cables? (new article)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 10:27:49 -0600
Organization: Internet Direct Communications - Lawrence, Ks - [phone]
Lines: 18
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Which Jack for HF Radio-to-TNC Cables? (new article)
Newsgoups:

Many HF radios have more than one jack that can be used to cable the
radio to the TNC. How do you decide which one to use? The article
"Which Jack for HF Radio-to-TNC Cables?" describes the transmit methods
(AFSK, FSK, CW), and things to consider for each jack.

Article URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/hf2tnc.html

From the home page at http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/ you can link to
other articles, including one with sound files of the TOR modes. The
articles may be reprinted in amateur radio club newsletters provided
that credit is given to the author.

The site also contains diagrams for wiring radios to tncs.

73 gloria ka5ztx   [e-mail]


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:44:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Winpack & MSYS
Date: 7 Jan 96 08:00:16 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
Lines: 12
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: [e-mail]

Is anyone out there using Winpack on a BBS that is running MSYS software.
If so have you been able to configure it for automatic mail and bulletin
down & uploads?

I would like some assistance with this if you know how.

Thanks in advance!
  _____  _  __  __
 |_   _|| ||  \/  |  Tim Miller - Dynamic Consulting
   | |  | ||      |  Packet - KB8ZGU@AA8ES.#NEMI.MI.USA.NOAM
   |_|  |_||_|\/|_|  [e-mail]     KB8ZGU      MIME Ok



From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:44:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (K1UM)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB: Ham Radio License Plates
Date: 6 Jan 1996 19:21:11 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Lines: 4
Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <4cn3ln$[e-mail]>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com


Hi,  I collect ham radio license plates, and would like to buy or
trade for yours!  I especially need plates from NJ, KY, or SASK.
Thanks, Tom [e-mail]


From Unknown Tue Jan 09 18:44:02 1996
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From: [e-mail](Jon Shay )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Young Ham of the Year Award 96
Date: 8 Jan 1996 16:47:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Jan 08  8:47:12 AM PST 1996

In <4cqb4h$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew
Durigan) writes:
>
>>   Any continental United States (FCC licensed) ham radio operator
>>aged 18 and younger who has used Amateur Radio to significantly
>>contribute to the benefit of the service, to the sate of the
>>communications art, to their community or the nation is eligible to
be
>>nominated.
>
>But does he need to know Morse Code?
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM
>
Yeah, and he must also know CPR and be a Veteran of the Boy Scouts Of
America....

Big Jon/....KC5MOP
Tucson,Az


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Young Ham of the Year Award 96
Date: 8 Jan 1996 05:46:57 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
Lines: 11
Distribution: world
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>   Any continental United States (FCC licensed) ham radio operator
>aged 18 and younger who has used Amateur Radio to significantly
>contribute to the benefit of the service, to the sate of the
>communications art, to their community or the nation is eligible to be
>nominated.

But does he need to know Morse Code?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:33 1996
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!jupiter.planet.net!usenet
From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "Linear" versus "Amplifier"
Date: 9 Jan 1996 22:03:34 GMT
Organization: Planet Access - Stanhope, NJ
Lines: 11
Message-ID: <4cuonm$[e-mail]>
References: <4cnp4u$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: stan38.planet.net
X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.)

>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:

>
>  Okay, we'll just call them "boots" or "footwarmers" from now on.  <g>
>
>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>   KF4DDM


That's a big 10-4 good buddy  how's it looking over your shoulder!!???  :-)



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:35 1996
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From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "linear" vs "amplifier
Date: 10 Jan 1996 20:40:41 GMT
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Lines: 12
Message-ID: <4d1889$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dd62-168.compuserve.com
Content-Type: text/plain
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>Lately I have noticed that it drives me crazy though, and now I call
>them "amplifiers" instead of "linears".  My dad would have wanted it
>that way.

He might really go nuts if I "Xeroxed" a printout of his post on my Sharp
copier. But first I have to "Celophane" my half-eaten sandwich with
Glad wrap. Not to worry, I can always re-heat it on my "Teflon" pan
that I got from Tupperwear!





From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:35 1996
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Can anyone email me the attenuation figures for rg8 coax for 10 meters?
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
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Subject: **Inovative Ham Classified Page Opens on the Web**
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The Raymond Sarrio Company╣s Ham Radio WWW site is proud to announce a
FREE Ham Radio classified advertising page at
http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html. This new classified page will allow Hams
to find equipement with the help of a search engine--no need to scroll
through 100╣s of listing before you find that special piece of gear. Plus,
when you find the gear you'er interested in, you are also provided with
easy point-and-click e-mail access, directly to the Ham that listed the
item.

For those Hams with gear to sell, take note! there is NO charge to list
your equipment within Ham Classifieds, and there will be no posting time
delays.  Your posting(s) will go on-line in our classified search engine
immediately. All you need do is fill out a simple forms page, and upon its
(point-and-click) submission your │For Sale▓ classified is immediately
on-line.

I will be purging the classified listings initially, about once every
month, but that timeline will shorten as our classified numbers grow.

Give it a try, and let me know how you like it (we are still beta testing)
73╣s Ray
--
Visit the Raymond Sarrio Co. Ham Radio Web site  http://www.csz.com/sarrio.htm
l
Extensive discount Catalog, New Cool Links Page
Ham Poll--New poll questions asked monthly



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Biekert)
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Please contact as directed below.. I"m just posting it for information, Do NOT

contact me regarding this forsale. What you read here is all the data I have
or can get.
Bob

The Anahuac Independent School District is offering for sale a one
hundred fifty foot Rohn Tower that was originally purchased for
InterAct television with the Region IV Education Center. Sealed bids
will be accepted until 10:00am Wednesday, April 3, 1996. Please
clearly makr bid: Bid/InterAct Tower, Anahuac ISD, Box 638 (804
Cummings St), Anahuac, TX 77514. Contact person is Dick N. Waler,
Business Manager. The District reserves the right to reject any bid
not in the best interest of the District. Bids shall be accompanied
by a written plan as to how the bidder will dismantle the tower and
proof of necessary insurances covering District and works:
1) Worman's compensation as required by law
2) Public liability in minimum limits of $100,000/$300,000.
3) Property damage in minimum limits of $100,000/$100,000.

Bob Biekert  Houston, Texas
WorldWide Merchants http://www.texas.com/~wwm


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The Delaware County Amateur Radio Association is a club of amateur
operators whose main purpose is to operate and maintain repeaters
open to all amateurs in the Philadelphia area.

Check out our Web site at:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/wa3rvt


Let us know what you think, or give us the URLs of other clubs similar to
ours!

73 de WA3RVT, Steve Eklund
                         Technical committee chairman of the DCARA



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:39 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
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Steve, what happened to PARA (Philadelphia Area Repeater Association)?  Aren't
they still in business?  They used to operate and maintain:
146.76 W3PHL/R Valley Forge (with inputs there on the mountain and in
                             Southern NJ, Lower Bucks, Paoli, and Hilltown)
146.94         Paoli
146.88         Hilltown
146.97         Neshaminy
146.82         Camden
224.94 W3PHL/R Valley Forge
440.?? W3PHL/R Valley Forge
=
PARA was one of the premier repeater clubs back in the 70's and 80's and I had
the privilege to serve on their Board of Directors as NW Quadrant Director in
the late 70's.  Please don't tell me they have gon the way of the dinosaur...!
-
73 de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Stillwater, NY
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ruurd Jager)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Geert Jan de Groot) say
s:
>
>If someone has the FAX number of the Canadian PTT at hand,

The mail address  for amateur licenses is
Industry Canada
473 Albert Street
4th Floor, Trebla bldg
Ottawa, Ontario
K1R 5B4

From the Netherlands:
tel: [phone]
fax: [phone]

This is the address where I received last summer
my reciproce amateur license from.

Ruurd, PE1DXQ


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:41 1996
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If someone has the FAX number of the Canadian PTT at hand,
can you please send me an email message? I found that they
are probably 'Industry Canada, Radio Regularity branch',
but a FAX number would become very handy.

Thanks,

Geert Jan



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
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In <4cu60h$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>I teach a few no-code tech. courses and would like to have some software that
 could generate some
>sample FCC exams.  Does anyone have that kind of software they would like to
contribute?

Sid, if you have access to the Web, check the "Testing" section of the
Amateur Radio Reference, http://www.panix.com/clay/ham/ -- If you don't
have Web access, let me know and I'll help you get the programs.

73s,

--
 See the happy moron,
 He doesn't give a damn,           Clay Irving, N2VKG ([e-mail])
 I wish I were a moron,            http://www.panix.com/clay
 My God! perhaps I am!


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Reed)
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Hi Luck,

I wondered for a long time what had happened regarding your dismissal
from ARRL HQ. Now we can see more of what is going on up there.

As you know I talk regularly with many of the staff and have over the
last 10 years been hearing so many terrible comments from staffers
leaving either voluntarily or by force that it is really rediculous.
Granted I had heard that more of the problems regarded some of the
Directors that walk around ARRL HQ spouting orders and expecting the
staff to cringe in fear. I truely wish that we would stop the hand-
shaking popularity contest that elects these Directors and get some
people with business experience. Some of these people have never held any
position anywhere compable and never will in the professional field where
performance earns position. Being a good audio tech doesn't give someone
the qualifications to run a multimillion dollar corporation.

Unfortunately the list of long serving ARRL HQ staff keeps growing at a
tremendous pace. The amateur public should some day hear of the tactics
used at HQ on some people. I can think of one personal friend that was
dismissed after I think 18 years of service there but fortunately he
opened his own business in Hartford and can buy and sell I'll bet several
ARRL bigshots.

73, Bob, WB2DIN




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KY1T Luck)
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 Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes with regard to Ed Hare, KA1CV:


>
>I could be worse and be you.
>A puppet of Dave Sumner. I heard from a former ARRL employee that
>the troops at ARRL are not happy campers and live in fear of Mother Dave
>and mutha Palm.
>
>Care to Comment?
>
>
>
K1OIK wrote (to the group) about KA1CV:


>>I could be worse and be you.
>>A puppet of Dave Sumner. I heard from a former ARRL employee that
>>the troops at ARRL are not happy campers and live in fear of Mother Dave
>>and mutha Palm.

>>Care to Comment?

He might WISH to comment, Burt, but unfortunately the the subject line
above says it all.

Indeed, they do live in fear.  Especially those who really, truly CARE
about the Amateur Radio Service, and who wouldn't really be happy doing
anything else.  And it must be absolutely terrifying for those who are
left there, given the numbers that have been canned.

The PRIME reason (there were several) I was fired was because I wouldn't
knuckle under to Dave Sumner's written mandate that all of our outgoing
mail (electronic and written) be censored.  Another reason was because I
wouldn't sign a document which stated that I'd cease all "harmful external
communications".  "Harmful", of course, translated into anything that
wasn't censored.

If anybody thinks for a second that I'm making any of this up, just ask
about the lengthy period of time during which I was forced to endure the
dreaded "review panel" in Dave's office.  The purpose of this review
panel  was solely to review my outgoing mail, so as to assure it's
"appropriateness".  I kid you not...

Luck Hurder, KY1T




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:46 1996
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On 9 Jan 1996, Burt Fisher wrote:

> Ed Hare <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >>I like the old boy, really I do.  Maybe he should turn 73 over to me.  >I'
ll turn it back into the mag it once was in 1977!
> >
> >I think he should turn it over to Burt.  After all, Wayne's editorials
> >keep saying the same thing over and over and over and over and . . .
>
> I could be worse and be you.
> A puppet of Dave Sumner. I heard from a former ARRL employee that
> the troops at ARRL are not happy campers and live in fear of Mother Dave
> and mutha Palm.
>
> Care to Comment?
>
>
>
>    .-.                                                               .-.
>   /   \           .-.                                 .-.           /   \
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> /--Burt Fisher K1OIK--------/---\---/-\---/---\-----/-----\[e-mail]\
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>
>
>
>
Care to identify your source?  Or does he fear termination by the
League's super secret assination squad?



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:47 1996
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Can anyone please give me the current address of the Company 'Idiom
Press' which makes the kit for the Superkeyer please

email: [e-mail]

Thanks

--
Simon Lewis


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Simon Lewis wrote:
>
> Can anyone please give me the current address of the Company 'Idiom
> Press' which makes the kit for the Superkeyer please
>
> email: [e-mail]
>
>Idiom Press
P.O. Box 1025
Geyserville, CA 95441

The August 1995 QST has an article on the latest version of the Logikeyer.
I love mine.

73, Jim, W9WU


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From: Avery Russell <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Blizzard of 96 - Amateur Radio NO PUBLICITY
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I have asked this question of people here in Montgomery County MD, and
have NEVER agreed with their answer. The DC area had been snow covered
and shut down for the past three days. With hours and hours of commercial
news coverage discussion how volunteers with four wheel drive vehicles
where helping out the area hospitals, there was not even ONE mention how
the amateur radio community was working with the drivers of these
vehicles as navigators and supplying crucial communications. As amateur
radio operators we need not have to boast, but a little recognition goes
a long way toward community goodwill. In an environment of increasing
regulation and antenna restrictions, shouldn't the public know how we can
be of help in trying times? I disagree with the people who don't believe
that amateur radio shouldn't be in the news media. It is wrong and
doesn't make sense. What do you think. I believe the folks at Montgomery
County RACES did a great job here in Maryland. Why Shouldn't their
efforts get some press.
Avery



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From: [e-mail](John Rouse)
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Subject: Re: Blizzard of 96 - Amateur Radio NO PUBLICITY
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Someone said:
RACES did a great job here in Maryland. Why Shouldn't their
>> efforts get some press.
>> Avery
>
>
Someone else said:
>Hey I could not agree with you more on this one! People should be made
aware of what Amateur
>Radio does for the community. It could do nothing but help us out.
>
>--
>                         Eddie  N2XDS
>
==============
I say:
 The ham community constantly moans and groans about an alleged lack of
favorable publicity, usually blaming the media for not paying attention
to their supposed contributions to mankind.
 Well, as a newspaper editor here in blizzardy Maryland, with four
publications, I have yet to hear from any amateur radio operator, ARRL
official, or grateful soul saved from the snow by a ham and his
handheld as to these selfless acts. I'm not denying they actually took
place; but instead of griping on the Internet, why didn't you call your
local newspaper and inform its reditors of the assistance rendered by
hams during the emergency? Editors, after all, do have more pressing
chores than to sit and  wonder whether the local  ham (if he even knows
what a ham is) community has rendered a service during the Blizzard of
`96. They have to be told! If you didn't tell, don't fault them.
 As a ham, I've long wondered just what it is these ARRL section PIOs
do. I have yet to hear from one in two decades (excluding the brief
time I acted as one, hi). Someone should tell these appointees that
part of their job should be informing the local press of good human
interest stories involving ham operators. The occasional press releases
from the ARRL on what it considers big issues are generally of no
interest at all to local news editors -- a call or press release
involving the activities of local hams (ie, hams in the newspaper's or
radio station's immediate area) would be of interest.
 Don't complain, do something!

73,

John KA3DBN



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Edward Stafford)
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In article <4cieu3$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(hamibj) writes:>From: [e-mail] (hamibj)
>Subject: Bonjour a tous...
>Date: 5 Jan 1996 06:02:43 GMT

>Bonjour a vous tous.  Je m'appelle Philippe et mon indicatif est VE2IBJ.  Je
>fais prΘsentement mes premiers pas sur Internet et ceci est en quelque sorte
un
>test pour voir si tout fonctionne bien.

>J'attends de vos rΘponses...

Salut Mec

73 de


Edward Stafford AA0QG     <[e-mail]>
UNISYS Corp.
MS 4963
P.O. Box 64942            Phone: [612] 635-7725
St. Paul, MN 55164-0942   FAX:   [612] 635-7523


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:52 1996
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From: Olivier Le Cam <[e-mail]>
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To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>JP>73, cela fait bien plaisir d'avoir des OM francophone sur Internet.
>JP>Meilleurs voux pour 1996 et α bientot sur l'air...
>JP>F1JMN
>JP>Pierre-Paul.
>
>Il y en a bien d'autres.
>
>73 de Pierre - ON4KNN

Meilleurs voeux egalement. Best wishes too ...

------------------------------------------------------
Olivier Le Cam
Email : olecam @ imaginet.fr
AX25  :  F5MZN @ F6KPF.FBRE.FRA.EU
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Bringing HTs into Britain
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 3 Jan 96 11:43:43 EST
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In article <4ca28i$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jason D. T
riolo) writes:
[snip]
> I may be wrong, but I think that you may have a hard time accessing
> repeaters in the UK and the rest of Europe. Most (perhaps all)
> repeaters requite a 1750Hz tone burst to access. Look at the manual
> that came with your HT, and you may see different specifications for
> US, European, and general market radios. European radios have a tone
> burst function. Most US radios have PL selection in place of tone
> burst.
>
> If you can find something to simulate a 1750Hz tone, you'll be ok.
> It's just an initial burst, not a continuous tone like PL is. Just
> enough to open the squelch until you stop transmitting...
>
> 73 de Jason, KD4ACG
I understand that it can be done with a whistle, if you're not tone deaf :)

73,
Joe - AA3GN
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[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (steve c walko ee stnt)
Subject: Can I turn off battery saver on TH-25/45?
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Hello all and thanks for reading this.  I own a Kenwood TH-45 440
handheld.  I figured out how to program it without a manual (I don't have
one).  When it is left unattended for about 30 minutes, it beeps and then
shuts off automatically.  Does anyone know any way to disable that
feature.  I use it to monitor a rather quiet repeater and it keeps
shutting off on me.

Thanks in advance

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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:55 1996
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From: "Bob (VE7OR)" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CQ 50 Digital Award ?
Date: 9 Jan 1996 15:43:41 GMT
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tnx for the info Jorma    de Bob



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:56 1996
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From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CQ, first Usenet Message... de N0AOM
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 96 14:10:39 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Joel Herbsman (N0AOM" writes:

> CQ from N0AOM, in Independence, Missouri.

59+ in Datchet, Berkshire (about 5 miles West of Heathrow Airport)

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: CTCSS Endoder for ICOM 2AT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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In article <4copq2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (RGutknecht)
writes:
>I have an IC-2AT with DTMF.  However, I recently moved to an area where
>nearly all
>the repeaters use CTCSS encoding.  Does anyone have any mods for the
>IC-2AT or SOMETHING that would get me back on the air?  I'm suffering from
>mikeabstinancitis!  Thanks  '73 Rick Nz2I

Circuit Specialists offers a tiny CTCSS encoder which will tuck inside
the IC-2AT nicely. I've seen several nice installations. It is dip
switch controlled, so if you want to be able to change the tone frequency
without opening the radio, some case surgery is required. The neatest
install I've seen had a slot cut in the battery mount plate. You had
to remove the battery to change the tone, but it was an invisible
modification, and easily reversed by installing a replacement battery
mount plate. HRO usually has them.

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:58 1996
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From: Carl Morgan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CTCSS Endoder for ICOM 2AT
Date: 11 Jan 1996 17:28:15 GMT
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Communications Specialists (CA firm) markets an encoder that
fits, nicely, inside the 2AT.  While I don't recall the pertinent
<sp?> data, I do have the part number and company address at
home.

If you don't otherwise come across it, E-Mail me and I'll get it
together for you.

          73 <> Carl
            K8NHE



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:13:59 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cut the crap: Contesting
Date: 3 Jan 1996 19:57:26 GMT
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[e-mail] (W8FN) wrote:
>
By its very definition, a hobby doesn't have to be "useful."  How "useful"
>is the yammer of the "shack on a belt" crowd on the 2 meter repeaters? Or

This hobby by law damn well better be useful. We are using public
frequencies. But it isn't.

ake that person **inferior** to you. I like contesting. I do it well. It
>makes me a **far** better than average radio operator. And I don't have to
>justify that to you or anybody else.

Talking to 200 people an hour makes you a better what?
Certainly makes you sound like a jerk to NORMAL people.


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|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
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Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (R. Beavers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Dayton - Cols. 5.11 link still DOWN
Date: 10 Jan 1996 19:33:47 GMT
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   Thanks for trying, but still don't work.



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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:01 1996
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From: "Edwin J. Bailen (& sometimes Irene Beattie)" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Dayton Hamvention ?
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 22:44:52 -0600
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On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Robert J. Lane wrote:

> Date: Thu, 04 JAN 1996 21:19:45 GMT
> From: Robert J. Lane <[e-mail]>
> Newgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Dayton Hamvention ?
>
>
>  I am thinking of visiting the states this year and I would like to
> time the visit during the period of the Dayton Hamvention (Hope thats
> correct title).
> Could someone please e-mail the actual dates for the event.
> Many thanks.
>
> Rob Lane G4NQX
>
>
>
May 17th thru May 19th.

   Ed Bailen -- N5KZW  /  Irene Beattie -- KA5DYF
          His religion?  Geek Orthodox!



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Mastroianni)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DogX-Ray
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 21:01:53 -0800
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Dog X-Ray 1.0d1 is a free TNC interface for the PowerMac and the PK-232.
Its primary purpose is to aid the DXer in perousing the DX packet
cluster.  It currently runs only on power macintosh and only supports the
PK232.  Our goal is to evolve DogXRay into a full featured DX cluster
interface/logger, with varying degrees of alert, analysis, and logging.

The d1 version simply provides TNC interface capabilities and DX spotting
announcing through MacinTalk.

DogXRay should be available on the InfoMac mirrors by the time this
message is distributed.   Please check it out and feel free to send me
e-mail with comments and or problems.

DogXRay 1.0d1 is freeware, copyright 1996 by Joe Mastroianni, AA6YD

Thanks!


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Mastroianni)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DogXRay Freeware
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 07:03:05 -0800
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13586 rec.radio.amateur.misc:96808

DXray, a packet TNC interface for the PowerMac and the PK232 is now
available on the info-mac mirrors.

Try:   <ftp://mirrors.aol.com/comm/dogx-ray.hqx>

DXray is free.  Any and all comments about it are welcome at

[e-mail]

73

AA6YD


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:03 1996
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From: Hans Brakob <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Everything about ham radio
Date: 10 Jan 1996 03:18:42 GMT
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References: <[e-mail]>

It is indeed a nice place.

73, de Hans, K0HB

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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:05 1996
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From: Philippe Maynard - VE2IBJ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Everything about ham radio
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 15:27:59 -0500
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First of all, excuse my poor english, I'm one of these frogs!

I just finished a visit to what I call the best site on the net for
anyone who wants to know everything about ham radio.

I won't extend this message, I'm not easy writting english.  If you
wanna know more about this site, just take a look at it.  I'm sure this
won't be the last time!

The adress of this site is:

        http://user.itl.net/~equinox/

Questions?  Comments?  E-Mail me!

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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ronald Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: for the "new" WA2NHZ..........
Date: 9 Jan 1996 18:41:42 GMT
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I finally found this discusting news group. de N2CQT



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Form 610 over the 'net?
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 96 23:27:21 GMT
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It getting to be that time again, and I was wondering if the FCC has any
provision (I know they don't have any money...) for processing forms 610 any
way besides paper. Does anyone know if I can renew my license over the 'net?

Thanks.


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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clifton T. Sharp)
Subject: Re: Ham guts
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4cm84u$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Bill Patton ) wr
ites:
>Anyone for a dissertation of Direct-mapped,
>fully-associative, two-way set associative or four-way set associative
>computer cache architecture and how it applies to an internet server?

I'd love to see it, but it's probably off-topic here. :-)

--
   Cliff Sharp                  There are days when no matter which
     WA9PDM                      way you spit, it's upwind.
  [e-mail]       --The First Law of Reality


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:08 1996
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From: Greg Smith <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAM WEB PAGE!!!!
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 21:39:48 -0500
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http://www.dnaco.net/~gsmith/ham.html

repeater freqs for the Dayton, Ohio area, and some other stuff, it's a
work in progress.  Check it out, let me know what you want to see on it.

-73- De Greg, N8PPZ


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Cira)
Subject: HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE*BBS
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IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!!


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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:10 1996
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From: "John  L. Rouse" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 9 Jan 1996 18:24:34 GMT
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Hasn't this foolishness gone on long enough? Give it a break.....

John KA3DBN
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help identify strange morse key?
Date: 12 Jan 1996 09:55:04 GMT
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Hello,

I have a strange morse key, of which I should like to know
the origin. It is a straight key.
The body forms a case, made of brouwn bakelite. The actual key is
mounted upside down on the lid inside the case. The bottom of the case is
basically a cover, with the shape of a bath tub (square with a hinge in
the back and rounded in the front with a clip for the lid).

The knob and two isolated contact screws protrude through the cover,
so it appears to be designed for operation under adverse conditions
and for keying high voltages. the individual components are marked with
reference numbers.

Thanks for any help,

73, Moritz DL5UH


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Vincent)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: How make a  T/R Swich???
Date: 10 Jan 1996 05:18:45 GMT
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I have a TH-78A, I want to drive a T/R Swich with my radio and I don't
have any idea to make that.

My PA is a Marconi, and I want to drive this PA with low power.

Please help me!!!

Thanks, Eric VE2-VXT     ([e-mail])

Eric Vincent
164, Carignan-Salieres
QuΘbec, Qc
G1L 2E6   Suite #2



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:13 1996
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From: [e-mail](Robert B. Daney, Jr. )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo and RFI ???
Date: 7 Jan 1996 19:32:48 GMT
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In <4c6h2b$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott
Ehrlich) writes:
>
>
>I may be purchaseing a Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo in about 6 months,
and
>was wondering if there were any known RFI problems with it?
>
>I am aiming for a new model, but may purchase a used one.
>
>I'm primarily a VHF/UHF user, but HF is not out of the question.
>
>I'm also considering a Ford Bronco or Explorer.  Any recommendations
>about the SUV (sport/utility vehicle) purchase would also be
appreciated.
>
>I am in the Boston, MA area - I am interested in these SUVs primarily
for
>the Winter and snow.
>
>73, and Happy New Year to all!
>
>
>--
>Scott Ehrlich                   Web: http://www.ehrlichtronics.com
>E-mail: [e-mail]                [e-mail]
>Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z


I have a '93 Grand Cherokee Laredop w/ V-8.

VHF OK, HF bad news.

Cruise control, theft alarm a d transmission will all perform
erratically when transmitting above 25 watts.

Wasn't worth the hassle.  Stick to 2m under 25 watts WITH OUTSIDE
antenna, preferable a mag mount so you can move it around for best
performance.

WD8LIC,
BOB
Toledo, OH


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (N3NTJMatt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood TS-440s/AT tuner problem
Date: 10 Jan 1996 00:49:38 -0500
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Hi all..
Does anyone know of a Kenwood auto tuner problem?
I know of a rig that will draw lots of current when you get to 20 thru 10
m and the AT will not tune for about 5 or 10 min.  Then, it is fine.
On 40 and 80m there is no problem.
Has anyone ever heard of this problem or know what it may be?
I am think the tuner but I dunno.
Also, any good, fast  Kenwood service areas near Cleveland or Pittsburgh?
thx and 73s
Matt
N3NTJ

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jens Kurrat)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics,sci.electronics.misc,alt.cellular-phone-tech,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
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Does anybody know which company makes digital PLL/receiver
chips that provide clock extraction (correction of the local ossc.) as
well as the data of the incoming baseband signal of about 3 Mbps?

In particular I'm looking for a small and simple chip, possibly
in CMOS with low power consumption to be used in wireless communications.

Thanks for your help!

Jens




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From: "G.D.Fender" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for Tom N6XLV
Date: 9 Jan 1996 18:55:03 GMT
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Does anyone know where Tom, N6XLV is? I lost track of him and he hasn't
updated his address with the FCC..

Please e-mail [e-mail]

Thanks


Gary - W6SZX



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Easton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking:: Shareware Pgm for Grid Square Work???
Date: 7 Jan 1996 15:56:00 -0700
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Hi,

I'm really into Grid Squares. I would like to find a program that is
orientated toward this more than the popular logging/contest programs.

I would really like to have something that would keep track of Squares in many

different ways and could PRINT GRID SQUARE MAPS showing various conbinations
of Squares, Squares contacted, Squares needed, etc. I would also like to be
able to see detailed versions of these type of maps on my screen.

Most of the logging programs I have tried just had Grid Squares as an after
thought, if they handled them at all. I really need a specialized program.
Anyone seen such an item?

Thanks,  Dave in Phoenix


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:19 1996
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From: Carl Morgan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Mac Packet
Date: 11 Jan 1996 17:35:44 GMT
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Greetings Matt:

I usually use a PC but have used a Mac on a few occasions.  The
software has been Kermit (a Columbia University ackage),
MacPacket, and Red Ryder.  Don't know what is now available, but
I'd guess any communications (modem) package would do.

The TNCs have been  Kantronics' KPC-2 and KAM, MFJ, and PacComm.
 All work well with the software described.

As I recall, all of the above packages required minimal computer
power ... a 512K if I recall correctly.

Hope this is some help.

     73 <> Carl
       K8NHE



[e-mail] (Matt Overholt) wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone has any experience in packet radio with the >macint
osh, and can lead me into the right direction for such=
 things and >packet modems and software.
>
>Thanks,
>Matt Overholt
>KC8BMI
>
>--
>Matt Overholt




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Gabler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: MARS info
Date: 10 Jan 1996 13:56:10 GMT
Organization: Microware Systems Corporation, Des Moines, Iowa
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In <[e-mail]> Jack Satterfield <[e-mail]> writ
es:

>Can anyone advise if they know of a way to send a email to a MARS station for

>packet delivery to a final MARS destination? Or, any other way to send a
>email that would ultimately be delivered by a specific MARS location.

For which service and what destination?  How traffic is passed varies from
service to service. I am in Navy MARS and all is passed either via PACTOR
or voice. Some members do have email and would probably accept outgoing
3rd party traffic via email, there is nothing to prohibit that.  It would
be up to the individual member.  I don't know about the other services but
I would assume they are the same.
--
Dennis Gabler    --o--------------------------=o=--------------------------o--
                                               |
[e-mail] KB5HVN/NNN0BQG___________|       [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Liston)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Maybe a Dumb Question?
Date: 12 Jan 1996 02:02:15 GMT
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I am not a ham, but I have a good friend that is.  He asked me if I could
find out where the term HAM originated. He thought it might come from
High Amplitude Modulation or maybe it is short for "hamateur". Could
somebody help us out?  Thanks.

Mike
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dany Bouchard)
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Subject: Re: Message pour VE2DBM
Date: 7 Jan 1996 05:27:21 GMT
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>Salut Boul,
Slut L'vieux

>tu m'enverras tes messages dans le newsgroup mtl.test
>n'oublie pas rpondre a tous pour me confirmer la reception

O.K C'est pris en note et je confirme en meme temp..

>73
Toi Aussi

Dany Bouchard
Beloeil, Qc.
140, Du Buisson
J3G5N9

Callsing Hamradio (VE2DBM)







From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse code exam symbols
Date: 10 Jan 1996 20:43:09 GMT
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>>I guess I'm what a lot of people are calling a "wanna-be"tech,

That's their problem, not yours.  You are every bit as much a licensed
amateur operator as they are.  Don't let "YE OLDE FAHRTZ" convince you
otherwise.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary R. Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need QSL info for 9A7A
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 21:11:11
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I NEED THE QSL INFO FOR:   9A7A - THE INFO I HAVE SAYS VIA YU2HDE
BUT I CANT FIND HIS ADDRESS.  ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

ALSO NEED:

HR1KAS
UL7LG
VK4SID
YO2BM
YO4NF
Z32JA
AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST

ZA1Z


THANKS,   GARY     KJ4WH


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:25 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Date: 10 Jan 1996 05:11:32 PST
Subject: Need QSL info: 3DA0NX
Lines: 5

<J>Need QSL info for 3DA0NX

Where'd you come up with a call like that? Never heard of a call
starting with a number. Better check again and see if you got it right.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:26 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need QSL info: 3DA0NX
Date: 10 Jan 1996 13:23:11 GMT
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>   [e-mail] writes:
>  <J>Need QSL info for 3DA0NX
>
>  Where'd you come up with a call like that? Never heard of a call
>  starting with a number. Better check again and see if you got it right.
>
>
>>>>
Where'd these come from??? :-)

3A  Monaco
3x  Guinea
4S  Sri Lanka
4X  Israel
5A  Libya
5W  Western Samoa

etc, etc, etc

Better check on that 3D..rumor has it that it is/was a pirate station

steve  KF2TI    200,000 countries and 5 galaxies confirmed


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:27 1996
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From: David Mclean <[e-mail]>
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Subject: New ham web Page!!!!!!!
Date: 7 Jan 1996 03:31:32 GMT
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Hello I have a new ham web page that I have been working on. My web
address of "http://www.dfw.net/~dmclean". Please take a look. I call it
D/FW hams but other hams outside of D/FW are Welcome. I have are list of
serves that will have any and all types of mods. If you do look at my web
page please send my comments about that page. I hope you like it!!!

--
                                                    David Mclean
                                              From The World of Hamradio
                                                   KC5NNV is Clear!
_________________________________________________________________________
-------------------------------------------------------------------------




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony Wilkes)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 01:06:25 GMT
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>who needs a new plastic?  haven't you seen that car wax commercial that
>protects against lasers?
>
Does that mean if I polish my Toyota with it Lasers will not run
into me ?    ;-))

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Tony Wilkes  ---  Whangaparaoa, North Island, New Zealand
Interests - Ham Radio ZL3SLH- Royal Forest & Bird - Croquet


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: New Site:: Check it Out
Date: 9 Jan 1996 21:57:59 -0500
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In <[e-mail]> Alex Bain <[e-mail]> writes:

>http://www.atlantic.net/~mode/donor

Forget it. This jerk has been posting this same site about sperm
donors in several newgroups -- It has nothing to do with amateur
radio, unless, of course, you *really* like your radio! :)

--
 See the happy moron,
 He doesn't give a damn,           Clay Irving, N2VKG ([e-mail])
 I wish I were a moron,            http://www.panix.com/clay
 My God! perhaps I am!


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:30 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: No guts Dave the real bully?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 01:23:15 GMT
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[e-mail](Dave Bushong ) wrote:

>Thanks, Stephan.  Like I said, I couldn't believe that one person could
>generate so much ill will, but after going a few rounds with him, I
>realized that he's just a bully whom I don't have time for.
>
>I hope others can use my experience to save them time in the future.
>
>73,
>Dave

I am the bully? That is a hoot.
You are the name caller.
Your response to my challenge to meet on the air was to put me in a
kill file. How come? Afraid that you cannot think on your feet, afraid
you will be at a loss of words when you cannot use name calling.
Do you always need to have Nancy Webb at your side to talk.




#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
#======================================================================#

Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:31 1996
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From: Gary KF9CM [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Nocoders get HF go-for-it
Date: 12 Jan 1996 01:33:31 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (AA9OO Brent) writes:
>  On 20 Oct 1995 16:05:58 GMT, [e-mail] (Thomas
>  Randall) wrote:
>
>  >Jim Smith ([e-mail]) wrote:
>  >: In article <45f61r$[e-mail]>,
>  >:    [e-mail] (Gary Davis) wrote:
>  >: >  A local club is letting nocodes operate on HF to rack up points durin
g
>  >: >ARRL contests. I'm told its perfectly legal.
>  >: ..
>  >: >NOCODES are operating fully equipped HF stations on SSB  and on every H
F
>  >: >band.  I'm told a loop hole in part 97 permits this.
>
>
>  Sure give the no-coders HF But only CW on 40,80 meter bands.
>
>>>>
Whats the loop hole in part 97 your referring to?

                                Gary KF9CM [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:33 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Not the code, not the test
Date: 10 Jan 1996 19:30:08 GMT
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When will we all wake up and realize that good
amateurs were NEVER made by the examination
system that happened to be in vogue at any
given time.

ALL good amateurs became good amateurs by watching
other good amateurs do it right. (You can classify
that as a "flat statement".)

Newcomers imitate what they hear and see on the
bands.

So be an example... get on the air and do it
right, or take a newcomer under your wing and
play Elmer.  (Or continue to pee and moan here
about how "they don't make 'em like they used
to make 'em when I became a ham".....)  In other
words, go out and make 'em like they ought to
be made....  do you remember?

73, de Hans, K0HB

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
-- My homepage is at:
   "http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/k0hb"
-- It's still a hardhat area... under construction


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:34 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Now Dave the untruth teller?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 01:26:36 GMT
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[e-mail](Dave Bushong ) wrote:

>You might or might not be referring, as part of your comment about
>'trashing', to a posting I recently made.  The only thing it had to do
>with ham radio was that a certain individual was going around here
>looking for a fight and saying that all hams were stupid.  I regret

>Dave KZ1O

I NEVER ever said any hams were stupid.
Show me ONCE.
Try a fact or two.



#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt  |
#================#=====================================================#
| [e-mail]                            MAC is 5% of the market  |
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Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for
bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!)




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (VK8MR (Mike))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL Information Site Wanted
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 03:50:18 GMT
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Does anyone out there know of a Web site that offers QSL information?
I know of the QRZ Web site, but I'm looking mainly for a site that has
more callsigns and QSL info in it.  QRZ appears to be just getting
started.  I've got about half a dozen QSL cards to send that I cannot
get addresses for.  I know I like to receive QSL cards and dont want
to disappoint anyone who feels the same way as I do.   Any help would
be most appreciated!

Best 73's de Mike
VK8MR / KG0NG
Making friends through Amateur Radio
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tac63)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RADIO SHOW IN N.Y.??`
Date: 9 Jan 1996 06:25:10 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Can anyone please advise me if there is a radio show or swap meet type
thing in the N.Y. area, preferably in the downstate area.  Thanx in
advance.

Ron
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:36 1996
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From: Jeffrey Pawlan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Re: Repairs - HF gear
Date: 9 Jan 1996 15:16:30 GMT
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There is no time better than the present to learn how to
repair your own equipment.  You do have an amatuer license?



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:37 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: ne.weather,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Someone pretending to be me SPAM
Date: 11 Jan 1996 00:31:06 GMT
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I have been advised that someone saying they are me is posting
money letters to several newsgroups.
Mostly likely a disgruntled HAM RADIO operator, not me.


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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY)
Newsgroups: ne.weather,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Someone pretending to be me SPAM
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 13:34:20 GMT
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I have been advised that someone saying they are me is posting
>money letters to several newsgroups.
>Mostly likely a disgruntled HAM RADIO operator, not me.

>
>   .-.                                                               .-.
>  /   \           .-.                                 .-.           /   \
> /     \         /   \       .-.     _     .-.       /   \         /     \
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>           `-'                                               `-'
Hey, Burt,  This is about the fifth message I have seen on ne.weather
in a week.  What a surprise.  Guess a feed got fixed.

73,







From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert A. Lanier)
Subject: Re: Soundcard spectrum analyzer software?
Message-ID: <197cc$[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 14:16:59 GMT
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>Somewhere I remember seeing software that lets you use a PC soundcard, like
>a SoundBlaster, as an AF spectrum analyzer.  I'm not sure if it required
>you to have your own noise generator, or if it generated noise or had
>a tracking generator simulator built in or what.  Anyone know anything
>about it?  Anyone have it?  Does it work well?  How does it work?

>Please respond by email.  Thanks.

>                                                       --- Jeff
>--
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-
> Jeff DePolo  WN3A            Twisted Pair: H:610-337-7383  W:215-387-3059 x3
00
> [e-mail]  RF: 442.1 442.2 442.4 443.45 443.8 444.15 linke
d
> Claim to Fame: I got the first speeding ticket on the information superhighw
ay

Jeff,

        I know of the software you are talking about, but since I am at work,
I cannot find the info for you. I believe if you look in QST, 73, etc
you might find the ad for the product.

Tony KE4ATO
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Flanders)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Subscription to mailing list [e-mail]
Date: 10 Jan 96 04:00:55 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: [e-mail]

SUBSCRIBE INFO-HAMS <[e-mail]>



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:41 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: super morse 404
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:27:38 UNDEFINED
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Does anyone know where I might get a copy of super morse version 4.04? I tried

to down load the copy on the internet thats associated with the Finley article

on morse code, but the download does not work correctly. What I need is an FTP

site that has it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James M. Atkinson, Communications Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,comp.security.unix,de.comp.security
Subject: TSCM Counter Surveillance & Technical Security Page
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TV disturbs radio
Date: 10 JAN 96 13:28:23
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger) writes...
>I did this a while back.  It works really well.  With my TV's I turned them
>all off!  What I did was setup education time with the kids and wife.  For
>three hours every night the kids do homework, read books, or make music.  I
>did ham radio.  The rule is simple, find something you like to do other than
>watch TV, and do it.

I'll second that. I stopped watching TV about 3 years ago, before I got
married. Now my wife and I only watch the occasional movie on the VCR. It's
GREAT, one of the best things we ever did for ourselves, and I highly
recommend it! The funniest part is, we're much BETTER informed of world,
national, and local events than ever before, because we don't have to sift
through all the TV hype and outright lies to get to the meat. We both have
plenty of time to pursue our hobbies... in my case, building a QRP 2-band HF
station from scratch, now nearing completion. I learned more about radios than
I ever thought possible.

So all you folks who want a technical ham population - do something! Shut off
the toob, warm up the soldering iron, and get to work. Build your next radio
instead of buying. It's fun, you'll learn a lot, and have the satisfaction of
using a piece of equipment you put together yourself. You'll even have
something to talk about besides what's on TV (OJ trial? Who cares?).

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:45 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Subject: Re: Un francis esta buscando contacto
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (USENET NEWS SYSTEM)
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Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
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References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <estrella-2012951410390001@128.125.62.135> <4c27r4$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4cnq92$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 03:07:25 GMT
Lines: 18

In <4cnq92$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
writes:
>>me llamo Karla Sofia y estoy viva en HAMBURGO.
>
>Uh, yeah...I'd like a hamburger, too.  Actually, make mine a cheeseburger,
> would ya?  And an order of fries...to go, please.
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

i take it they didn't have spanish in the schools up there in NC, eh?

rough translation:  my name is Karla Sofia and i live in Hamburgo...
however, i don't use spanish enough so Karla probably said she lives for hambu
rgers..

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:46 1996
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From: Fergal Purcell <eusfpl>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: US Hams want to operate in UK
Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:25:14 GMT
Organization: Ericsson North America Inc.
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(1) You'll have to get reciprocal licences. The ARRL should be able to
get you the correct information for applying for the licences.

(2) The 2m band in the UK is 144-146 MHz.

(3) Most of the repeaters (if not all) are open. You'll need a 1750 kHz
tone to open the tone burst repeaters. This can be done easily by a
varied pitch whistle.

(4) I believe that the UK is been divided into areas with CTCSS.
Repeaters will slowly move over to implementing CTCSS.

(5) Repeater frequencies are...

  R0  145.600
  R1  145.625
  R2  145.650
  R3  145.675
  R4  145.700
  R5  145.725
  R6  145.750
  R7  145.775

  Input: - 600 kHz

Enjoy!

Fergal  VE2IRL/N5



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:47 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Valentine Special Event
Date: 9 Jan 96 15:26:26 CST
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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exit

                 ****Valentine Special Event Station****

         The Metropolitan Amateur RAdio Club of central Arkansas will
    sponsor the 5th annual special event Valentine's Day operation
    from Romance, Ar.  Call will be N5RLJ(N5 Romeo Loves Juliet)

    Date: 10 February 1996
    Time: 1500 UTC to 2200 UTC
    Frequencies:  40 and 20 meter general phone and cw bands.
    QSL info:

    N5RLJ Callbook address or
    Ronamce, Ar Special Event
    c/o Metropolitan Amateur Radio Club
    P. O. Box 1793
    North Little Rock, Ar  72115
    SASE please.

    Hope to make a contact with you and Happy Valentine's Day!

    73,

    Paul Graziani
    wd5biv@kk5aa.#cenar.ar.usa.noam



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (K6CBLhater)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vancouver "Ham" Jamming Police?
Date: 12 Jan 1996 01:41:56 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Local police raided a ham who was reported by an unknown person (also a
ham?) to be the guilty party.  When the police found several scanners and
a VHF transceiver "capable of doing the jamming" they arrested him, sans
warrant and took him to jail.   He is not the person who was doing the
jamming, as his transceiver did not even operate in the police bands. But
tell that to a judge!


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vancouver newspaper blames Ham Radio Ops for Police Jamming
Date: 9 Jan 1996 13:14:26 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
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>If I didn't know any better, I'd guess that Drew was up in Vancouver
>pinning coaxes.


You don't know any better.  That's the problem.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur,can.general
Subject: Re: Vancouver newspaper blames Ham Radio Ops for Police Jamming
Date: 11 Jan 1996 21:44:50 GMT
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In article <4d2k2r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
>
>In <4csp23$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell) writes:
>>In article <4cs2hh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>>
>>>From: The Province Newspaper, page A21
>>>Dated: Sunday, January 7, 1996.
>>>
>>>Reprinted without permission.
>>>Non-copyrighted story.
>>>
>>>By-line:   AURAL SEX TUNED IN
>>>
>>>By:  Roberta Staley, Staff Reporter
>>>
>>>
>>>        A ham radio operator is endangering lives by jamming police
>>>radio channels with recordings of a couple having sex.
>>>
>>
>><rest deleted>
>>
>>Yuck. Besides setting the newspaper straight, it would be useful for the loc
al
>>Amateur community to assist the police with radio direction finding efforts
in
>>locating the source of the interference. That's been done elsewhere and turn
ed
>>an ugly situation into a great one.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>Ed, KF7VY
>>------------------------
>

As a HAM operator myself, someone is assuming an awful lot by stipulating
that the perpetrator of the "sensual" messages is a HAM operator.  Anyone
can have access to this type of tranceiver and are able to buy them legal-
ly.  There is no requirement to prove that you are a HAM in order to buy
the stuff.

It's just as possible that one of the "finest" was lying on the mike button
while engaged in a "search" operation in his vehicle.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:51 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur,can.general
Subject: Re: Vancouver newspaper blames Ham Radio Ops for Police Jamming
Date: 11 Jan 1996 09:08:43 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct
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In <4csp23$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell) writes:
>In article <4cs2hh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>
>>From: The Province Newspaper, page A21
>>Dated: Sunday, January 7, 1996.
>>
>>Reprinted without permission.
>>Non-copyrighted story.
>>
>>By-line:   AURAL SEX TUNED IN
>>
>>By:  Roberta Staley, Staff Reporter
>>
>>
>>        A ham radio operator is endangering lives by jamming police
>>radio channels with recordings of a couple having sex.
>>
>
><rest deleted>
>
>Yuck. Besides setting the newspaper straight, it would be useful for the loca
l
>Amateur community to assist the police with radio direction finding efforts i
n
>locating the source of the interference. That's been done elsewhere and turne
d
>an ugly situation into a great one.
>
>Good luck,
>Ed, KF7VY
>------------------------
>personal email to [e-mail]
>Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at
>http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm
>

For more on this thread read, can.general

Ted Lee

VE7LEE




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:52 1996
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From: Rick Tressler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: 9 Jan 1996 13:21:44 GMT
Organization: Global Access Network ISP [phone]
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I did some research, but could not find exactly what I was lookinng for in the
 rule book.  From
what I can see, the FCC will not re-issue a callsign.  The vanity callsign pro
gram is still
pending, so we wait.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:53 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In <4cpq9c$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (K1UM) writes:
>anyone know how long the FCC keeps a callsign around after it has
>expired?  The call I would like expired  Feb, 95.  It would be
>nice if they cancelled it in Feb 96!  Thanks .. Tom

the grace period is 2 years.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 06:15:43 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>[e-mail] (K1UM) wrote:

>>anyone know how long the FCC keeps a callsign around after it has
>>expired?  The call I would like expired  Feb, 95.  It would be
>>nice if they cancelled it in Feb 96!  Thanks .. Tom

>call signs become available two years after expiration. I am the guy
>who pushed the vanity call sign system thru Congress when the FCC
>refused my petitions. Good luck.
>[e-mail]

The FCC 610-V can be obtained from W5YI at P.O.Box 565101, Dallas, TX
75356-5101, 817-461-6443, [e-mail].  The FCC uses prision
labor to do their publishing, W5YI received a plate of the new form
and reproduced his own. He charges $1.00 for the form. 73...
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:56 1996
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From: Wayne Jones <wjones.hgea.org>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: W2 QSL bureau address
Date: 10 Jan 1996 05:40:52 GMT
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[e-mail] (Tony J. Podrasky) wrote:
>GE
>
>Anybody got it - and how much $ to send?
>
>73,
>WA2EAA - tony
>
ARRL 2nd District :

N.J.D.X.A.
PO BOX 599
Morris Plains NJ 07950

They are supposed to sell stamps and envelopes. Sens a SASE to find out
rates.  You also could send a stack of SASE -- I recommend no smaller than
5-1/2 x 7 inches -- some of the DX cards are quite large. Definitely do
not send the small standard size envelopes -- they are just too small.

I also recommend that you put no more than two ounces worth of postage on
an envelope until you get a little experience in knowing how many cards to
expect.  Two ounces is $0.55, and will get you about 12-14 cards.

Hope this helps!

Aloha from the 50th State!

Wayne, NH6GJ
Manager, KH6 Bureau.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony J. Podrasky)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: W2 QSL bureau address
Date: 10 Jan 1996 17:06:37 GMT
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RGR - tnx for the info.

(I did reply with E-MAIL but it bounced).

73 es BCNU

WA2EAA / tonyp

--
 The Coyote's  | I'm the voice of all the Wildest West, the Patti of the Plain
s;
     Song      | I'm a wild Wagnerian opera of diabolic strains;
Ernest Thompson| I'm a roaring, ranting orchestra with lunatics becrammed;
  Seton, 1913  | I'm a vocalized tornado - I'm the shrieking of the damned!


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:58 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: W2 QSL bureau address
Date: 10 Jan 1996 13:30:51 GMT
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>   Wayne Jones <wjones.hgea.org> writes:
>  [e-mail] (Tony J. Podrasky) wrote:
>  >GE
>  >
>  >Anybody got it - and how much $ to send?
>  >
>  >73,
>  >WA2EAA - tony
>  >
>  ARRL 2nd District :
>
>  N.J.D.X.A.
>  PO BOX 599
>  Morris Plains NJ 07950
>
>  They are supposed to sell stamps and envelopes. Sens a SASE to find out
>  rates.  You also could send a stack of SASE -- I recommend no smaller than
>  5-1/2 x 7 inches -- some of the DX cards are quite large. Definitely do
>  not send the small standard size envelopes -- they are just too small.
>
>  I also recommend that you put no more than two ounces worth of postage on
>  an envelope until you get a little experience in knowing how many cards to
>  expect.  Two ounces is $0.55, and will get you about 12-14 cards.
>
>  Hope this helps!
>
>  Aloha from the 50th State!
>
>  Wayne, NH6GJ
>  Manager, KH6 Bureau.
>
>
>>>>
just so happens i have an application in hand

$5.00 for 10 postal credits  they supply envelopes and stamps

73,  steve


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:58 1996
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From: Geert Pirens <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WANTED graphic packet v2.?  beta
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 04:23:19 -0800
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Hello,

Whho is so kind to help me ?

Loking for Graphic Packet v2.? beta version.

All reply's are welkom !!

Bye

Geert Pirens


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:14:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Rask)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wants mods for IC736 ,IC737(A) and IC738
Date: 9 Jan 1996 23:31:43 GMT
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Hello and thanks for reading this !! :-) is there anyone outthere who
has any mods for anyone of these three radio┤s ?? could be anyting from
improving RX to how to get expande TX. I would really appriciate any mod
at all for these radio┤s (havent seen any at all passing arround) so is
there anyone who has a mod outthere please send it to me.
Best 73┤s De SM7VHS /Martin hope to hear you on the bands.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:15:00 1996
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From: "Arthur H. Williams, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What CW keyboards are available?
Date: 10 Jan 1996 19:53:34 GMT
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     There are CW keyboards available from MFJ, but are there other
sources?



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:15:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Wilkins n6fri)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this Newsgroup?
Date: 3 Jan 1996 23:29:53 GMT
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Avery Russell ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Greetings for a very good new year.

This group is a little bit stronger in the flaming trash than the amateur
service as a whole. The flamers and trolls get beat off their favorite
two meter trash boxes or their 75 meter nets and come here to release
their pent up hostilities. At least you can hit you d key or create kill
file filters...no different than spinning the dial on your transeiver.

Most of the lamers in this newsgroup would never last on our local two
meter trash box...

Enjoy the sport!

Bob
--
     Bob Wilkins                     home    [e-mail]
 Berkeley, California                work    [e-mail]
     94712-2354                      play    n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:15:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (charles copeland)
Subject: Where to get Morse Academy 5.2?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:47:02 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

Where can I get get Morse Academy 5.2?



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:15:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tac63)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB: USED/AFTERMARKET PROGRAMMING CABLE FOR RADIUS/MAXTRAC
Date: 11 Jan 1996 11:28:39 -0500
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Looking to buy a used or after-market programming cable for a  Motorola
Radius(Mobile Radio) or a Motorola Maxtrac(mobile radio).  Please e-mail
me with details.  Thanks in advance.

Ron
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:15:04 1996
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From: "Jordi C." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Yaesu G-800SDX computer control.
Date: 10 Jan 1996 09:35:49 GMT
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Hi
I would like to control my Yaesu G-800SDX rotor via my PC without buying
an expensive control card.Do you know how ?
Thanks in advance for all information.

Jordi CarnΘ
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:15:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Penn McClatchey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Yaesu G-800SDX computer control.
Summary: Kenwood computer control
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 11 Jan 96 15:06:52 GMT
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In article <4d019l$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jordi C.)
writes:
> Hi
> I would like to control my Yaesu G-800SDX rotor via my PC without buying
> an expensive control card.Do you know how ?

I'm sorry, but I don't know.  I have the same question for Kenwood
rig.  The RS232 level adapter is $130.  Anyone know of a less
expensive way to do this?

Any help much appreciated, 73 de Penn
--
Penn M. McClatchey (Southern Aluminum Finishing Co, Atlanta, GA, USA)
Architectural Aluminum. Custom Fabrication. Paint, Powder Coating, Anodizing.
[e-mail]   Amateur Radio WB4DPT   Voice: 404-355-1560,ext231


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 12 14:15:05 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Your QSL Card on The Web
Date: 9 Jan 1996 23:28:38 GMT
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Get your QSL on the Web.

Send it to:

QSLs on The Web
Solder-It Co.
P.O. Box 20100
Cleveland, OH 44120

Write your e-mail address on back o card with permission to post.

See your card  at...    http://www.solder-it.com

Most votes for best card (monthly) will get free Solder-It

73,

Fred, AA8FQ


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jose Antonio Gonzalez)
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Subject: "DX-ROUTEBOOK"-COPYRIGHT 1995/KB6AXK
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Hello!

Does anyone know when and where is going to be  available the 1996
edition?

Best 73



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ZaaX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: "Phillips Code" abbreviations needed
Date: 13 Jan 1996 16:00:49 -0500
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Does anyone out there know where I can get a listing of the "Phillips
Code"?
It is a list of abbreviations that use to be used by landline telegraph
operators.
Any help with this will be greatly appreciated!

73
Zack Schindler
N8FNr


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:30 1996
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From: Philip Manning <[e-mail]>
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Date: 15 Jan 1996 12:53:55 GMT
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Information, sources, and typical prices required on a suitable 220 mhz amateu
r
mobile radio for use in the States. I have a friend you is coming over to the
States for a while. All replies to me, Please.

Phil Manning G1LKJ

Packet Radio BBS GB7GFD



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:31 1996
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Sorry folks left the subject off...oops: 220 mhz rigs availability?



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:32 1996
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From: John Passaneau <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ***Ham WEB page For all people to use! Give it a TRY***
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 15:47:00 -0800
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:23827 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18501 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13643 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:12755 rec.radio.amateur.misc:96988 rec.radio.amateur.policy:32577 rec.radio.amateur.space:6142

David Mclean wrote:
>
> Hello to all:
>
>     Come a take a look at my new web page. I have been working on it for
> the last 4 weeks. I have lots of thing that you will like. Some of the
> things that I have are: MODs, Swap Shop, Dfw repeter list, comment page,
> links to other good ham pages, call looks ups (updated by the sec), radio
> pricing, Links to QRZ,FCC,HRO, and many more. If you are a ham and would
> like you web page added to my list just send me e-mail. Please tell me
> what you like and dislike about the page. I want all types of comments.
> Hope you like what I have.
>
> --
>                                                     David Mclean
>                                               From The World of Hamradio
>                                                    KC5NNV is Clear!
> _________________________________________________________________________> -
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It might have been nice to put the address in the message.
John Passaneau, WB8EIY, State College Pa.


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: **FREE Ham Classified Page Opens on the Web**
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 20:52:30 -0800
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The Raymond Sarrio Company╣s Ham Radio WWW site is proud to announce a
FREE Ham Radio classified advertising page at
http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html. This new classified page will allow Hams
to find equipement with the help of a search engine--no need to scroll
through 100╣s of listing before you find that special piece of gear. Plus,
when you find the gear you'er interested in, you are also provided with
easy point-and-click e-mail access, directly to the Ham that listed the
item.

For those Hams with gear to sell, take note! there is NO charge to list
your equipment within Ham Classifieds, and there will be no posting time
delays.  Your posting(s) will go on-line in our classified search engine
immediately. All you need do is fill out a simple forms page, and upon its
(point-and-click) submission your │For Sale▓ classified is immediately
on-line.

I will be purging the classified listings initially, about once every
month, but that timeline will shorten as our classified numbers grow.

Give it a try, and let me know how you like it (we are still beta testing)
73╣s Ray
--
Visit the Raymond Sarrio Co. Ham Radio Web site  http://www.csz.com/sarrio.htm
l
Extensive discount Catalog, New Cool Links Page
Ham Poll--New poll questions asked monthly



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Maca)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 160m mailing list?
Date: 12 Jan 1996 09:21:15 GMT
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Does anyone have the e-mail address to subscribe to the
160m "Top-Band" mailing list?  I had it at one time but
lost it...

Please reply to [e-mail]

Thanks in advance!

John
AB5SS


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:35 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 160m mailing list?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 16:31:10 GMT
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In article <4d596b$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "John Maca" writes:

> Does anyone have the e-mail address to subscribe to the
> 160m "Top-Band" mailing list?  I had it at one time but
> lost it...

The Topband reflector is:

       [e-mail]

Administrative traffic (subscription, etc.) should go to:

       [e-mail]

To subscribe send an e-mail message containing the single line "subscribe"
in the text to "[e-mail]."   Further information is
available by sending an e-mail message containing the single line "info"
to the same address.

> Please reply to [e-mail]

Done.

73.
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Maca)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 160m mailing list?
Date: 15 Jan 1996 14:54:03 GMT
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Thanks to all who responded!  I'm back on the list.

John
AB5SS


John Maca ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone have the e-mail address to subscribe to the
: 160m "Top-Band" mailing list?  I had it at one time but
: lost it...

: Please reply to [e-mail]

: Thanks in advance!

: John
: AB5SS


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Georges)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 2-m on tour in Greece?
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 96 22:38:14 GMT
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In article <4crba6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Alex Lane) wrote:
>If I were to go on vacation to Greece, how might I go about getting a
>temporary ticket to work 2-m, say, near the Albanian border?
>Cheers...
>KD6JJA
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
>  finger/email: [e-mail]   |  voice: [phone]; fax -3058
>  Pagosa Springs, Colorado, USA           |  bbs:   [phone]
>  PGP 2.7 fingerprint: 7F DB 06 E2 47 84 79 B4  32 3C A9 48 65 AA 5B C2
>  <A HREF="http://www.csn.net/~alexlane">Home page for Alex Lane</A>
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+

Well thats a long story but I have a copy of all the information you need some

were also you can send a packet radio message to the R.A.A.G. and ask for info

they have a detailed file which you can look at. tha packet address is:
SV1SV @ SV1SV.ATH.GRC.EU
I try to get that file to put on the net....
73's de Andrew... Bye VA ..


73's DE SV1DKD (Andrew Georges)
--------------------------------
Ham Radio Station
Amateur Radio Spans The Globe...
--------------------------------
Mailing Addresses:
Internet: [e-mail]
ax.25   : [e-mail]  (packet radio)
Snail   : P.O.BOX 3564  C.P. 10210   Athens Greece
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Donohue)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 20m Radio Nets
Date: 14 Jan 1996 11:47:01 GMT
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Hi:
   A few years ago, perhaps later there was a Net run out of the West Coast
area around 14.300+ for Kenwood/Yaesu Users. I have yet to hear these nets
on recently. Have they gone by the wayside?

   Is there currently any such type of nets running. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks

73 De Michael VE3DMJ




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:39 1996
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From: Philip Manning <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 220 Mhz Amateur radio mobile rig information required
Date: 15 Jan 1996 17:43:17 GMT
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A Royal Naval Amateur Radio Society member Roger G4CNW requires information on
220 mghz amateur radio rigs, re availability, sources,typical prices new etc.

All replies to Phil Manning G1LKJ RNARS 2954 also at GB7GFD Packet radio bbs.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Markiewicz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Address for World Radio Magazine
Date: 16 Jan 96 16:12:20 GMT
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Originator: [e-mail]

Does anyone know the Address or Telephone # for World Radio Magazine?
If so, can you please E-mail it to me..

Thanks

 - Peter

===========================================================================
     Peter Markiewicz                        [e-mail]
     Avis Rent-A-Car                         [phone]
     900 Old Country Road
     Garden City, NY 11530
===========================================================================




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew John Murrell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Alinco dj-580
Date: 15 Jan 1996 14:45:20 -0000
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Hi,

I've got a alinco dj-580 handheld that appears to be playing up.
When i turn it on it works ok for a few seconds, then it seems to go deaf on
2, and not transmit on 70 (but still tx's on 2, and rx's on 70). I have notice
d
that when it is acting up, and you tx on 70 (or at least try to :-)), the on a
irlight flashes.

has anyone got any ideas what wrong?

andy, g7ueh

email           -       [e-mail]
www             -       http://http2.brunel.ac.uk:8080/~ee95ajm
bbs (ax25)      -       g7ueh@gb7bst (or at least it will be in & when i get
                                      the radio working :)  )


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Len Winkler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: APRS discussed on national show!
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 15:32:50 GMT
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APRS will be the topic this Sunday, 1/21/96, on the Ham Radio & More Show. Bob

Bruninga, WB4APR, originator of the software will be the special guest. Don't
miss this exciting show on the Talk America Radio Network and via shortwave as

well as satellite. The show airs live at 6:00pm ET (2300utc).
73,
Len

Len Winkler, KB7LPW                           [e-mail]
P.O. Box 9219                                   [e-mail]
Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219
Ham Radio & More Show info at:
http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html
The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc, Sundays on the Talk
America Radio Network in over 62 cities. Check WWW page for list.

The show also airs on WWCR shortwave. Check 5.065mhz for our live show or tape
d delay on Saturdays at noon ET (1700utc) on 12.160, and Mondays at 1000utc on
 7.435.

Also, LIVE on C-band satellite....Spacenet 3, Transponder 9, 6.8 audio.
Support "WOG". Written only General!!!






From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital,sci.space.shuttle
Subject: APRtrak - SPRE part-II
Date: 13 Jan 1996 04:24:56 -0500
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[See http://w3eax.umd.edu/spre.html for more SPRE info]

APRtrak - SPRE part-II
======================

By:  Bob Bruninga  (WB4APR)
File:  aprthlp2.txt
Date:  11-Jan-96


Once you have APRtrak unzipped, loaded, and working with your TNC, and
have READ all the files in the README directory, you will be able to
rapidly move between the APRtrak screens to see the packets being parsed
using several single Key commands:

SPACE BAR displays the map.  Use PgUP/DN, HOME and arrows to ZOOM

L - LATEST.  Will only display the LAST packet seen per station.

P - POSITS.  Holds the posits of any stations reporting same.

A - ALL BEACONS.  This is the chronological page of all NEW packets.
    It does NOT update in real time, so you have to keep pressing
    "A" each time you want to see the latest.

V - This is a conventional scrolling text display of raw packets

D - DIGIPEATERs.  This display shows the packet headers being used.

alt-T - This page displays the telemetry.

Z - HORIZON.  This is an interesting display showing what the SKY
    looks like from your backyard or wherever the MAP cursor is.
    To see the default horizon (Annapolis), center the map on your
    station and press Z.  You can customize this HORIZON following
    the steps in SYSTEM\HORIZON.DAT.

alt-F FAST.  This will make the satellites move FAST.  It is
    interesting to watch on the HORIZON display.

NOTE!!!!  I just discovered that APRtrak defaults to Mcom OFF.  This will
prevent you from capturing the REFLEX and other non APRS packets!  Without
Mcom ON, you also will not see the full packets on the ALL PAGE.  To toggle
MCOM ON, use the APRtrak CONTROLS-MCOM command.

APRtrak will then try to set MCOM on in your TNC.  AEA TNC's use a different
command which you will have to set yourself using the OPS-COMM mode to talk
to your TNC directly.

Not only does MCOM in APRtrak turn on MCOM in your TNC, but within APRtrak
it also ENABLES the saving of ALL packets including the HEADERS on the ALL
page and subsequently that is what is saved in the LOG files.  So even if
you can't get MCOM ON in your TNC, be sure it is ON in APRtrak.  When it
is ON you will see it in the CONTROLS display (Hit the TAB key to show it).

Hope to see you on the map!



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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.space.shuttle
Subject: APRtrak and SPRE part III
Date: 13 Jan 1996 04:26:28 -0500
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[for more SPRE info, go to http://w3eax.umd.edu/spre.html]

APRtrak and SPRE part III
=========================

By:  Bob Bruninga  (WB4APR)
File:  aprthlp3.txt
Date:  11-Jan-96


At the bottom of this file are the latest KEPS for STS-72 and MIR.  In
APRtrak, use the FILES-KEPS command to update your KEPS from this file.

NOTES:
1)  Use a DOS editor to change one of the existing satellite object
numbers in APR.ORB to the object number for STS-72.  That is 23762
2)  Now use the FILES-KEPS (NASA format) to update from this file.
3)  Do NOT use the AMSAT format for updating, because it appears to
wipe out all the satellites and only bring in the new one...
4)  If you accidentally wipe out all your satellites, you can copy the
APR.BAK file to APR.ORB and you will be back in business...

Be sure your DATE, TIME and TIME ZONE are correct.

Once SPRE is deployed, do NOT update your KEPS if you want to keep
tracking SPRE.  If you want to update the shuttle KEPS, then use an
editor to change the name from STS-72 to SPRE and give it a fake OBJ
number.  Then change another satellite to 23762 and do an update.  But
remember that the shuttle does have to come back to the SPRE position to
pick it up.

KEPS
STS-72
1 23762U 96001A   96011.54980208  .00018263  14056-8  12334-4 0    25
2 23762  28.4456  92.8486 0209086  53.8763 124.4554 15.83397765    37
Mir
1 16609U 86017A   96011.21448032  .00001907  00000-0  31939-4 0  3827
2 16609  51.6436 195.5557 0005535 197.3708 162.7101 15.57665536565383

Satellite: STS-72
Catalog number: 23762
Epoch time:      96011.54980208
Element set:       2
Inclination:       28.4456 deg
RA of node:        92.8486 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0209086
Arg of perigee:    53.8763 deg
Mean anomaly:     124.4554 deg
Mean motion:   15.83397765 rev/day
Decay rate:    1.82628e-04 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:               3
Check sum:             324




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:45 1996
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From: Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Are hams law abiding?
Date: 12 Jan 1996 01:32:01 GMT
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More than any other group.


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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:47 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLB002 Ham License Issuance Still Stalled
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: 12 Jan 1996 17:29:05 -0500
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB002
ARLB002 Ham License Issuance Still Stalled

ZCZC AG81
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 2  ARLB002
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 12, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB002
ARLB002 Ham License Issuance Still Stalled

The budget impasse is over for now, but FCC issuance of new ham radio
licenses remains stalled, this time by bad weather. The FCC reopened
Thursday, January 11, but closed Friday, January 12, as more snow hit
Washington, DC. Monday, January 15, is a Federal holiday, Martin
Luther King Day.

While it was open January 11, the FCC accepted electronic amateur
license application files for processing from VECs, including more
than 1800 records from ARRL/VEC. The FCC will expedite the
application backlog, but some temporary software adjustments were
needed before licenses are granted. It could take several days after
Monday s holiday for the FCC to get back up to speed.

The earliest word on call sign assignments and upgrades is not
expected until Wednesday, January 17. ARRL suggests applicants wait
until then to call ARRL at 860-594-0300, 8 AM to 5 PM EST.

The same information will be available on Internet sites, including
the University of Arkansas, Little Rock, WEB site at
http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign.html.
NNNN
/EX


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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLB003 FCC proposes to suspend amateur use of 76-77 GHz
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB003
ARLB003 FCC proposes to suspend amateur use of 76-77 GHz

ZCZC AG82
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 3  ARLB003
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 16, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB003
ARLB003 FCC proposes to suspend amateur use of 76-77 GHz

In a Second Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in ET Docket 94-124, issued
just before the Federal shutdown in mid-December, the FCC has
proposed amending Part 97 of its rules to ''temporarily disallow
amateur use of the 76-77 GHz band,'' which the FCC hopes to open for
commercial development along with other ''millimeter wave'' frequency
bands above 40 GHz. The band in question is part of the 75.5 to 81
GHz allocation, which the amateur and amateur satellite services
share with other users on a primary basis from 75.5 to 76 GHz, and on
a secondary basis from 76 to 81 GHz. The primary allocation of 76-81
GHz is assigned to radiolocation, including radar.

The commission says the change will permit development of vehicle
radar systems in the 76-77 GHz band that could be used in conjunction
with Intelligent Transportation Systems. The FCC says restricting ham
use of 76-77 GHz will prevent potential interference to these
developing systems. At the same time, the FCC proposes to upgrade
amateur status in the 77.5-78 GHz band from secondary to co-primary
with government and nongovernment radiolocation services.

In earlier comments, the ARRL objected to limiting the 76-77 GHz band
to vehicle radar systems. The League said it wanted to maintain
existing ham allocations from 75.5 to 81 GHz to spur development of
short-range, high-speed data links. Because of the Federal government
shutdown, the deadline for comments on the FCC proposal has not been
set but will be 60 days after publication in the Federal Register.
NNNN
/EX


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SB DX @ ARL $ARLD002
ARLD002 DXCC update

ZCZC AE44
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 2  ARLD002
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 10, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB DX ARL ARLD002
ARLD002 DXCC update

Documentation for the following operations has been received and
approved:

3A/I1YRL       3A/IK1OWC      3A/I2MOV       3A/I1ZB        3A/I8FXT
3W5FM          4B9CQ          6Y5/DL1DA      7P8CW          7Q7DC
8Q7CW          9J2CE          9N1AN          9N1SXW         9R1A
CN2NI          D2RU           DU1/SM5ENX     HI/DL1DA       HS0ZCJ
HS/DF8AN       HS/KM4P        J3J            J3X            J3Y
TT8BP          TY8G           VK9LX          VK9LZ          VK9NM
VK9XRS         VR2/DF8AN      VU2/DJ9RB      XT2DP          XZ1A
XY1HT          XZ1X           XZ1Z           ZA5B           ZA9B
ZA/PB0AIO      ZA/PA0HTR      ZK1DI          ZL7CW          ZL7PYD
ZV0TI
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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP002
ARLP002 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP23
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 2  ARLP002
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  January 12, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP002
ARLP002 Propagation de KT7H

Solar activity was up a bit last week, while geomagnetic activity
was quite low.  This is a nice combination for HF propagation,
giving us a little better conditions on higher frequencies while
absorption is lower.

Low activity is expected to continue, with a gradually declining
solar flux rising slightly again after January 22.  A recurring
coronal hole is expected around January 20, but it should not cause
a great disturbance.

Sunspot Numbers for January 4 through 10 were 48, 69, 57, 45, 53,
27 and 13, with a mean of 44.6.  10.7 cm flux was 85.9, 84.9, 82.7,
82.5, 79.3, 75.9 and 73.8, with a mean of 80.7.
NNNN
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Frank Connelly <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Care to identify your source?  Or does he fear termination by the
>League's super secret assination squad?
>


He posts here. KY1T.

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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:53 1996
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Subject: ARRL Handbook Superkeyer Address Please
From: [e-mail] (Dan Hrehov)
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Here is the address as of about last summer.
IDOM Press
PO Box 1025
Geyserville, CA   95441

I had to replace the chip.  I really like the keyer

73's
Dan N7VOE
[e-mail]



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ARRL JANUARY VHF SWEEPSTAKES.
-----------------------------
From VA2MRX (FN46)

The upcoming VHF contest, the station VA2MRX will be contesting as a
Limited Multioperator from January 20st 1900UTC to the 22nd 0400UTC.

5 Operators will be working the station.  Our goal is to make over 100 QSO's.

We will be on these frequencies.

2m:     SSB: 144.200 Mhz
        FM:  146.550 Mhz
70cm:   SSB: 432.100 Mhz
        FM:  446.000 Mhz
10 Gig: WFM:  10250.000 Mhz.

We think we should be able to work people over 150km if conditions are
not too bad.  This means that stations from FN47, FN57, FN36, FN46, FN56,
FN35 and FN45 should be able to ear us.

Here are the operators:
VA2MRX, VE2ETX, VA2OLM, VE2JTX, VE2LTX

Hope to ear from you and good luck with conditions.

We can be contacted for SKED (time/frequ.):
Packet: VA2MRX@VE2GPQ.#QBC.PQ.CAN.NA
Internet: [e-mail]
Compuserve: 76162,3430





From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:55 1996
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Hi , I was wondering if any rebroacasts of Shuttle/Nasa Select TV
is exist in the Bay Area, and if so on what frequency??.
thanks Ronald Ross.


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Avery Russell <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I have asked this question of people here in Montgomery County MD, and
>have NEVER agreed with their answer. The DC area had been snow covered
>and shut down for the past three days. With hours and hours of commercial
>news coverage discussion how volunteers with four wheel drive vehicles
>where helping out the area hospitals, there was not even ONE mention how
>the amateur radio community was working with the drivers of these
>vehicles as navigators and supplying crucial communications. As amateur
>radio operators we need not have to boast, but a little recognition goes
>a long way toward community goodwill. In an environment of increasing
>regulation and antenna restrictions, shouldn't the public know how we can
>be of help in trying times? I disagree with the people who don't believe
>that amateur radio shouldn't be in the news media. It is wrong and
>doesn't make sense. What do you think. I believe the folks at Montgomery
>County RACES did a great job here in Maryland. Why Shouldn't their
>efforts get some press.
>Avery
>

Hi Avery

You're right... amateurs not only deserve positive stories in the media, we
NEED them.  These stories are seen by your neighbors, who then might
tolerate your antennas a bit more.  And they are seen by legislators at all
levels (ESPECIALLY in D.C.), who might look more favorably on things like
antenna restrictions at the local level, to frequency allocations at the
federal level.

But it won't happen by itself.  Someone has to keep making your media
outlets aware of what's happening, with specifics: WHO's doing WHAT, WHERE,
WHEN and WHY.  Names, addresses, telephone numbers!  Make it easy for them
to tell a positive human-interest story... and the WILL.

That person is usually called the PIO - Public Information Officer, aka PR
Director, PR Flak, mouthpiece, ... oops, getting negative here :>)

The ARRL has field positions called PIO in each section.  Is there anyone
doing it in your area.  Individual clubs can also appoint PIOs, but I
recommend they go for the ARRL appointment as well.  Check with your county
EC or your section manager.  The League supplies a "how-to" manual and lots
of sample press releases, plus a newsletter with updates every month called
"QSO Media."  (It's one of the things the League does every month that only
a few hear about).

It's not that hard.  As the ice storm developed here in NC, I faxed a press
release about the Skywarn operation to the papers and local TV stations,
and we got on the news on one station with an interview with the Skywarn
EC.  He looked great!

Good Luck, 73
Gary KN4AQ
NC ARRL Section
Public Info Coordinator

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      +   Raleigh, NC      Franklin Video         Amateur Radio   +
      +                                                           +
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:42:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Todd Little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Blizzard of 96 - Amateur Radio NO PUBLICITY
Date: 15 Jan 1996 17:05:01 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger) wrote:

> The big question is why should hams get extra media coverage and turned into
> heros for doing the job the FCC has assigned us to do?

For the same reason everything else gets media coverage.  I don't think
"extra" media coverage is warranted, but coverage commensurate with the
coverage given other organizations would be nice.  You see all these other
groups getting coverage for doing their jobs, why should amateurs be
any different?

> Media coverage is reserved for hams that go above the norm.

Says who?  If the only news was about people that "go above the norm"
we'd have very little news to read or see.  An awful lot of the news
(perhaps all of it?) is to inform the readers or viewers about some
subject they presumably are interested in and may not know much about.
So when the Jaycees volunteer to fill sandbags to hold back flood
waters, that is news.  When a fire fighter rescues someone from a
burning building, that is news.  Did those individuals do something
that wasn't expected of them?  No, they were doing their "assigned"
or agreed to role.  Is it news?  Watch the evening news and you decide.

> So I ask, what did these hams do that was above the norm?  What makes them
> any better than say the camra man shooting the CNN viedo?

What does the camera operator have to do with the news *content*?
When the folks that bring you the news become the news, then something
is seriously wrong.

> Here is my point.  Those hams that used ham radio for it's intended purpouse
> are doing what they should be.  They are the norm, not the exception.  The
> ones that abuse the spectrum are the ones to be drawing attention to.

Yikes!  I hope I'm not interpreting that correctly.  I hear you saying
that the abusers of the rules should be making the news?  That will
certainly leave a positive impression on the general public.

73,
Todd
N9MWB



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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
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In <4de1ft$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Todd Little) wri
tes:
>For the same reason everything else gets media coverage.  I don't think
>"extra" media coverage is warranted, but coverage commensurate with the
>coverage given other organizations would be nice.  You see all these other
>groups getting coverage for doing their jobs, why should amateurs be
>any different?

the other groups make sure the press knows about what's going to happen
before the event takes place. over the 24 years i've been in amateur radio, mo
st
publicity is an afterthought...people get out to FD and autopatch back into
someone to try to get on the schedule of known events a reporter may be
trying to cover.  too late -- you needed to tell 'em a couple of weeks earlier
..

in general, publicity is an afterthought in amateur radio. you need to be a su
pplier
of known quantity and quality - for example, i've been doing the press release
s
on the radio exams for the last 10 years or so. not fancy but it helps keep a
drone
of information going into the newspapers/radio/tv and that helps keep amateur
radio in the 'Current File'. the notice for Feb's exam will go out just after
the
exam in january.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Thompson)
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So when the Jaycees volunteer to fill sandbags to hold back flood
>waters, that is news.  When a fire fighter rescues someone from a
>burning building, that is news.


These are things that make for good pictures.
Someone talking on a radio is BORING to see and is over in a flash.
No film at 11.
Ken.


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Mitchell)
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Subject: Re: Blizzard of 96 - Amateur Radio NO PUBLICITY
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In article <4d0u79$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I have asked this question of people here in Montgomery County MD, and
>have NEVER agreed with their answer. The DC area had been snow covered
>and shut down for the past three days. With hours and hours of commercial
>news coverage discussion how volunteers with four wheel drive vehicles
>where helping out the area hospitals, there was not even ONE mention how
>the amateur radio community was working with the drivers of these
>vehicles as navigators and supplying crucial communications. As amateur
>radio operators we need not have to boast, but a little recognition goes
>a long way toward community goodwill. In an environment of increasing
>regulation and antenna restrictions, shouldn't the public know how we can
>be of help in trying times? I disagree with the people who don't believe
>that amateur radio shouldn't be in the news media. It is wrong and
>doesn't make sense. What do you think. I believe the folks at Montgomery
>County RACES did a great job here in Maryland. Why Shouldn't their
>efforts get some press.
>Avery
>

I will gladly publish news on the Blizzard at Ham Radio Online. We created HR
Online as a place to promote Ham Radio in a positive way. I even had a banner
on our masthead looking for blizzard stories. Unfortunately, we didn't receive

any substantial news on the subject. We welcome stories and can get them on th
e
web quickly. We typically run 300 to 400 readers a day, both ham and non-ham.
Take a look and let me know what you think. You can find us on the web at
http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm

To get coverage in the "Real" press, you need to call the editor's desk and
promote yourself. I've been at disaster scenes and successfully collared
reporters and handed them a stash of notes on paper to give them something to
work from. Be aggressive. Issue press releases. They are hungry for news but
sometimes need help in finding it.

Ed, KF7VY

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Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alex Lane)
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Subject: Re: Blizzard of 96 - Amateur Radio NO PUBLICITY
Date: 15 Jan 1996 15:32:55 GMT
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Avery Russell ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [...] I disagree with the people who don't believe
: that amateur radio shouldn't be in the news media.
: [...]

Um, that means...you think amrad should *not* be in the news media?
I don't think that was what was meant.  But you bring up a valid point.
Modern hams seem to have become a "forgotten" group, unless you are in a
"ham-rich" environment (say, in the neighborhood of Johnson Space Center).
One person I spoke with recently expressed surprise that hams even still
existed!?
  By all means, hams have *got* to get better exposure, or else we run the
risk of ceasing to exist.
Cheers...
KD6JJA
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (MVenable)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Blizzard of 96 - Amateur Radio NO PUBLICITY
Date: 15 Jan 1996 22:55:11 -0500
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The media does pay attention if they get the information.  Last Saturday's
Hartford Courant had a front page article about a local ham's involvement
in Skywarn.  It was a very good human interest story, in part, because the
ham is blind.  The story tells a lot about the best part of being a ham.
Overcoming personal obstacles, contributing to the community, etc.

If your newsmedia hasn't found your story, feed it to them.

73  Mark Venable


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:06 1996
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From: "C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Bringing HTs into Britain
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:34:59 GMT
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In article: <[e-mail]>  [e-mail] (Eugene Kang)
writes:
>
> Will I run into any problems if I brought two HTs from the US into
> Britain during a holiday?
>
> They are VHF Motorolas.
>
>
> thanks
>
>
>
Hi there
I dont see why you should have a problem bringing your two HT`s into the uk al
though you
will need to apply for a reciprical licence.

As to the 1750hz tone burst a varied pitch whistle will open most of the uk re
peaters
others require the tone and voice before there are opened.


73 de Bob G7PAF / 2E1AQN / N9YGF
in the Republic of west yorkshire England



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Philip Carter)
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Commercial radio license exams will be offered in Columbus, Ohio on
January 20, 1996.  For information or to register, call 614-240-0059.

--
[e-mail]
Philip L. Carter, WD8QWR
wd8qwr@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.na


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:08 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Communications Procedures was(Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.)
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Gary, KE4ZV expressed the opinion that:

>I also think that use of 20 meter HF procedures on VHF+
>repeaters is rude, and a mark of ignorance on the
>part of the operator.

Gee Gary, would you settle for "is INAPPROPRIATE, and a
mark of INEXPERIENCE" instead of "rude" and "ignorance"?

A newcomer to VHF (either a new license, or coming from
a background on HF) is likely to do things which are not
strictly in tune with VHF+ procedural conventions, but
that hardly makes them "rude" or "ignorant" by my standards.
It identifies them as someone who might benefit from some
"Elmering" rather than "labeling".

Hopefully you don't think I'm rude for bringing this up.

73, de Hans, K0HB

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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James E. Bromley)
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In article <[e-mail]>
 [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:

  [deleted]

>I find this somewhat insulting, IE that you are saying that HF procedure
>is somehow "grownup" while VHF+ procedure is not. Many amateurs find VHF+
>a  perfectly satisfactory permanent home, and some have even migrated
>*from* HF to VHF+ since it better suits what they consider to be good
>operating fun and good operating practice. Perhaps we should teach good
>repeater etiquette to HF operators, so that when they finally graduate
>from frequencies near DC they'll know how to behave. (Does that strike
>you as absurd? It should, and is as insulting as your statement.)

Oh, if we had just done this 25 years ago.  Back then we had a tight
little operation on VHF FM with its own crisp procedures taken mostly
from public safety.  But the HF, appliance-operating, code-sending,
ARRL-supporting scumbags: (a) decided that there was something to FM
after all and, (b) found they didn't have to be professional-level
land-mobile radio technicians to put something on the air (due to the
burgeoning importation of rice-burning radios from Yaecomwood). Since
these assholes had "real" licenses, they couldn't be taught a thing.
And their sheer numbers overwhelmed any attempt to limit their access
to the good systems and thereby maintain high standards.  Now, we have
reaped the bitter fruit of the vulgarization of the mode - long-winded
transmissions that routinely timeout the machine, grossly inappropriate
and horribly ineffective operating procedures, total cluelessness
concerning system and unit technology ("SINAD???") and an overwhelming
arrogance toward long-time, highly competent system operators.  The
situation is hopeless now.  But, if we had just been diligent back then
and kept anyone with a loading coil on his car off of FM, we could
still be enjoying evenings monitoring the local repeater in peace and
quiet.

W5GYJ




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>   [e-mail] (James E. Bromley) writes:
>  In article <[e-mail]>
>   [e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>
>    [deleted]
>
>
>
>  Oh, if we had just done this 25 years ago.  Back then we had a tight
>  little operation on VHF FM with its own crisp procedures taken mostly
>  from public safety.  But the HF, appliance-operating, code-sending,
>  ARRL-supporting scumbags: (a) decided that there was something to FM
>  after all and, (b) found they didn't have to be professional-level
>  land-mobile radio technicians to put something on the air (due to the
>  burgeoning importation of rice-burning radios from Yaecomwood). Since
>  these assholes had "real" licenses, they couldn't be taught a thing.
>  And their sheer numbers overwhelmed any attempt to limit their access
>  to the good systems and thereby maintain high standards.  Now, we have
>  reaped the bitter fruit of the vulgarization of the mode - long-winded
>  transmissions that routinely timeout the machine, grossly inappropriate
>  and horribly ineffective operating procedures, total cluelessness
>  concerning system and unit technology ("SINAD???") and an overwhelming
>  arrogance toward long-time, highly competent system operators.  The
>  situation is hopeless now.  But, if we had just been diligent back then
>  and kept anyone with a loading coil on his car off of FM, we could
>  still be enjoying evenings monitoring the local repeater in peace and
>  quiet.
>
>  W5GYJ
>
>Testy, aren't we.  73s anyway. N2YZS
>
>>>>



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:12 1996
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From: "Bob (VE7OR)" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CQ 50 Digital Award ?
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Hi Victor
          Here is the CQ magazine address:

CQ COMMUNICATIONS, INC
76 NORTH BROADWAY
HICKSVILLE, N.Y.  11801-2953
U.S.A.

GOOD LUCK TO YOUR FRIEND IN THE CQ AWARDS.

                  73 de BOB VE7OR



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:13 1996
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From: Oliver Welp <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: DL0ART/am - 4th launch scheduled (01-14-96)
Date: 13 Jan 1996 15:31:53 GMT
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We finally can do it...

DL0ART/am - The Nienberge Amateur Radio Group (Germany)
plans another balloon launch on Sunday, 01-14-96.

This is our fourth flight and will be the first one
carrying
a "user access". We`ll have a 70 cm/2 m crossband repeater
aboard. All hams are invited to use this facility. Please,
show appropriate ham spirit while using the repeater!


Planned ARTOB launch 01-14-96:

Launch:         # 4
Launch date:    01-14-96 (Sunday)
Launch time:    1200 UTC
Launch site:    Nienberge near Muenster, Germany, JO32SA

Call sign:      DL0ART/am
QRG/mod.:       (1) Telemetry beacon:  145.200 MHz (F2D &
F2A)
                (2) Crossband repeater (F3E):
                       Uplink:   432.570 MHz
                       Downlink: 144.470 MHz
                (3) RX for remote control on 70 cm and 10 m

Power:          (1) 2 W
                (2) 2.5 W

Antennas:       (1) groundplane
                (2) big wheel - one for 70 cm, one for 2 m
                (3) 70 cm: groundplane  /  10 m: lamda/4

Diameter ballon: ca. 8 ft

Talk back of DF teams and ground control via repeater
Muenster,
DB0PD (R 84). Reports are welcome, please call DL3YBQ or
DL9QJ.
Or send QSL to DL9QJ via bureau, via PR or via Internet.
Each
report will be confirmed by a special QSL card of the
balloon.

Any suggestion or response is always welcome!
Best 73,
Oliver

[Oliver Welp, DL9QJ, N3NSF
 Internet:  [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]
 PR:        DL9QJ@DB0EA.#NRW.DEU.EU
 phone/fax: [phone]]






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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Shustak)
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Subject: Does anyone have control codes for Motorola Cell phones?
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Rumor has it that Motorola cell phones can be manipulated through
a myriad of codes punched into the keypad on the front of the radio.

Does anyone know where I might be able to find a info file
on this type of thing?

Thanks
Chris



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Mastroianni)
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Subject: Re: DogX-Ray
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 19:21:07 -0800
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>
>           [e-mail] "Joe Mastroianni" writes:
>
>... and I always though Dog Xray was Superman's pet Dobermann!
>
>73
>Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
>G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *

He is.  Look at the cool startup screen!

Joe


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In <4df2tj$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Martin) writes:
>[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>
>>:[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:
>>:>
>>:>In article <4d3b8j$[e-mail]>,
>>:>    Steve - KF2TI <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>:>
>>:>> I will agree with you here..you don't fit *ALL* the notions...just 99
>>:99/100% of them...the only thing to your
>>:>>credit is that you have 5WPM, which by the way is know code.  If
>>:Ignorance is bliss...you must be in a constant
>>:>>state of sexual ecstacy!!!  Be sure not to ever puncture an eardrum
>>:Drew...you'll let the vaccum out  :-)
>>:>
>>:>The only think Drew passing a 5wpm shows is that we have to do away
>>:with
>>:>multiple-choice code examinations.
>>:>
>
>>:You don't own the bands, you don't make the rules.  Get used to it!
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>:-Drew in Charlotte-
>>: KF4DDM
>
>I know you are but what am I?  Real intelligent response Drew...
>
>DREW FOR PRESIDENT OF SOTCH!!     Society of Totally Clueless Hams
>
>     :) WK1V
>
This thread long since quit talking about what its title says it's about.
Perhaps it's time to rename it.  Or, perhaps it's time for all of us to
start behaving like adults and stop calling each other names in public...

73 - Alan NS0B


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From: "Timothy E. Connolly" <[e-mail]>
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http://www.clinet.fi/~jukka/webcluster.html

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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Rice)
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Subject: Re: Electonic flash unit problem
Date: 12 Jan 96 17:13:33 CDT
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In article <4d3541$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
m (DCG Mktg Docmnt (Ivrea)) writes:
>
> I have an electronic flash unit purchased in 1970. After being unused for
> many years, I find that now it does not function correctly. The lamp is
> powered by 250 Vcc and the flash is triggered by a pulse. I have
> checked the capacitor, which is in good condition. Has the lamp failed
> through again?? Does anybody have the answer?

How did you 'check the cap' ? Were you able to determine that it would
hold a charge, or did you just check that it wasn't shorted ?

The most likely failure is that the cap is indeed open and will not take
a charge. That's always been the problem in the 3 or 4 that I've had die
on me over the years.


--------

   John Rice -  K9IJ       | "I speak for myself, not my employer".
   [e-mail]         |  Miracles, Magic and Sleight-of-hand done here.
   [e-mail]          |  Licensed since 1959
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John D. Rhodes)
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Subject: Re: Electonic flash unit problem
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (John Rice) wrote:
>In article <4d3541$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (DCG Mktg Docmnt (Ivrea)) writes:
>>
>> I have an electronic flash unit purchased in 1970. After being unused for
>> many years, I find that now it does not function correctly. The lamp is
>> powered by 250 Vcc and the flash is triggered by a pulse. I have
>> checked the capacitor, which is in good condition. Has the lamp failed
>> through again?? Does anybody have the answer?

I've had trouble with the trigger transformer in several (cheap) flash units.
Tthe transformer is supposed to develop an 1-2 kv pulse.  I think the failure
mode is an internal short (probably between layers of the secondary).

A cheap (often free) replacement can be had from your local color print
processor.  Those throw-away cameras have complete flash units.  Often, you
can get a couple of cameras just for the asking.  The trigger transformer is
easy to identify.


John D. Rhodes - AA7HL
Vancouver, WA
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:21 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Element spacing on a beam antenna?
Date: 10 Jan 96 16:39:10 GMT
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Can any one help me?
        Trying to homebrew a simple 3 element 1/4 wave beam antenna, and using
the formula that the reflector element is 5% greater than the driven element,
and the director element is 5% less than the driven element.  My question is,
what should the spacing of the elements be from each other, and what can the
boom be made of, eg. wood, pvc, etc?
        I just remembered that somebody said that the impedence at the driven
element would be 25 ohms, would that be a correct assumption, or would that be
frequency dependent, or specific?  If so than a balan would be considered
necessary?  The possible wave lenghts I was going to try these beams on are 2
meter, 70 centimeter, and 23 centimeter.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
73
Tony
N2TRV

ps I was also wondering if the elements composition (brass, copper, etc) and
diameter might or would play a part in the part of the formula too, would I be
correct?


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From: "C. J. Hawley" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Finding power line noise source
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 16:35:27 -0600
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WB7ASR wrote:
>
> Im trying to track down an S-9 AC power line noise source Im having
> on 40 meters. I pulled my home main AC breaker while my HF xcvr was onsnip
> Anyway, I have found several "hot" noise spots the next block over,
> however I can't pin-point the exact direction where the noise is coming
> from. The two meter yagi is not directional on 40 meters no matter which
> way I point it, for I might as well be using a vertical. What other type
> of directonal antenna can I use to pin-point the location of the noise
> source?

You need to use a 2Meter receiver on AM with the yagi. And, a 440MHz receiver
on
AM with a 440MHz yagi when you narrow it down to a few power poles. A scanner
with selectable modes works.
Chuck, KE9UW


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[e-mail] (Joel B Levin) wrote:

>--
>Nets: [e-mail]  |  "GO TO JAIL.  Go directly to jail. Do not pass
>  or [e-mail]|  Go.  Do not collect $200."
>POTS: [phone]  |
>ARS:  KD1ON          |                              -- Parker Brothers


I thought it was Milton Bradley....



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Rashkin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: for the "new" WA2NHZ..........
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 04:00:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ronald Shapiro) wrote:

>I finally found this discusting news group. de N2CQT

Hey Ron...Happy New Year..Now if only Jack was here!!

73
UR Pal NHZ




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Subject: FREE DEMO:DXtreme Station Log System V2.0
Date: 13 Jan 1996 04:11:08 GMT
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Subject: FREE DEMO:DXtreme Station Log System V2.0
Date: 13 Jan 1996 04:11:08 GMT
Organization: DXtreme Software
Message-ID: <4d7bcs$[e-mail]>

Announcing the DXtreme Amateur Radio Station Log System(tm) Version 2.0

Designed for HF DXers, this affordable logging program lets you enter
your contacts and track the DXCC performance of your station.
DXtreme(tm) features attractive, easy-to-use screens, and a full range of
inquiries and reports.

PC/AT-compatibles, 80386DX+, MS-DOS 5.0+.

Write for a copy of the data sheet and more information, including how
to obtain the free Demo version of DXtreme.  Contact me at
[e-mail].

Thanks and 73,

Bob Raymond, NE1I


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:25 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Free Ham Classified Ads on the Web
Date: 13 Jan 1996 20:36:06 GMT
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Please visit The Virtual Hamfest at

http://www.webcom.com/webpub/

Free classifieds, an organized listing that appears for 1 month, with email ho
tlink back to ad author.  Equipment photos optional

Hamfest listings (Please submit any that you are responsible for)

Stolen Equipment List (Please submit yours)

Email me your ad to me if you don't surf the Web.

Thanks

Steve WB8HNC


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:26 1996
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From: Michael Neidich <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.ant
Subject: FREE: Zenith TransOceanic List of Model Nrs. etc.
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 06:02:03 -0800
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For newcomers to boatanchors, request via email my handy reference list
of model numbers and salient characteristics of the Zenith Trans-Oceanic
series of short wave radios.  I also act as a clearing house for tubes.
If you have any of the T-O tube line-up (now on my latest list) let me
know, and $ wanted.  I will be offering a color photo series of the
L600-L soon.  Let's hear from you!  To get my list, just put "Free List"
in the body of the text.

73, K2ENN


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:27 1996
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From: Michael Neidich <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.marketplace,rec.antiques,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: '34-'35 Radio News Magazines
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 15:18:09 -0800
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For sale:  5 issues in perfect condition, "Radio News & Short Wave Radio"
Nov. '34, Dec. '34, Jan. '35, Feb. '35, Apr. '35.  $25 ea. ppd.
First come first served.  Enclose s.a.s.e. and I will return your check.
 See what radio listening was 60 years ago!
K2ENN


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jack Kovar  KE0AX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: or TRADE CELLPHONE EQUIPMENT
Date: 14 Jan 1996 17:02:08 GMT
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I have boxes full of proper working Motorola cellular phones to sell or
or trade for ham equipment.

        Mostly 3watt bag and mobile phones.  One flip phone, and other

        types of hand helds.

        SOFTWARE TOO!

                        Please call if interested!
                                                Jack Kovar
                                                [e-mail]
                                                319-378-9852



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:30 1996
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From: {Gary} KF9CM [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS:Vhf High Power Duplexer
Date: 13 Jan 1996 02:10:07 GMT
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I have for sale a Sinclair 4 cavity  high power VHF duplexer Model# Q-202GC. T
o my
knowledge it's never been used.  The cavities are inclosed in a steel cabnet w
ith
(3) three conectors on the side.  The frequency tuning range is from 132 to 17
4 Mhz
and I have the complete tuning manual.

The Electrical Specifications are as follows:

INSERTION LOSS= Tx 1.5 db
                             Rx 1.5 db
ISOLATION, Tx Noise at Rx frequency       = 80 db
                  Tx Frequency at Rx Terminal   = 80db

MINIMUM ISOLATION Between Tx and Rx Frequencies = 50db

MINIMUM SEPARATION  = 500Khz


This is a top of the line duplexer and lists from Sinclair for $1730.... I wil
l take $850
or best offer. This is for local pickup or I can deliver within a 100 mile rad
ius of
Chicago Il.


You can "E" mail me at [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:31 1996
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From: William W. Munsil <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Genealogy on Ham Radio?
Date: 11 Jan 1996 21:46:02 -0700
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Is there a genealogy net on the Ham radio HF bands?
Please respond by email.
from N7AOU/ATV.

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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Johan Wennerberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: GPS antenna design
Date: 15 Jan 1996 15:54:12 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from sci.geo.satellite-nav ]
[ Author was Johan Wennerberg ]
[ Posted on 15 Jan 1996 12:53:10 GMT ]

I would like some hints on constructing antennas and
antenna amplifiers for my Garmin 45 GPS receiver.

If anyone have information on where I can get circuit
descriptions I would be grateful to know.

Johan Wennerberg
email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:33 1996
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From: Esteban Sanchis <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: great circle map
Date: 15 Jan 1996 10:33:40 GMT
Organization: Universitat de Valencia, Spain
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NNTP-Posting-Host: dxer.eleinf.uv.es

Hi vereybody

I am looking for a great circle map or azimuthal equidistant map centered in
Valencia (Spain).

Does somebody know where is a ftp site where I can retrieve a psotrcipt file o
r
a program which generates them which enough accuracy. I amlooking or something
 more
accurate then the gcp program a have found.

     Thanks, Stefan (EA5GMI).



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HAM Encryption outside the US?
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:06:10 GMT
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In the US, it is illegal to encrypt any communications on the ham bands.
Is this true in other countries?  Is it an international thing?

There was a post on packet over the weekend from someone outside the US
suggesting the use of PGP for encryption on packet.  I suppose it would be
OK to use PGP for digital signatures, but using it for encryption is a
no-no here in the states.  How about elsewhere?
-------------------------------------------------------------------
John Wagner                  [e-mail]

For Encrypted Mail: PGP Public Key Available upon Request



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio in the Grand Canyon
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 05:55:41 GMT
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[e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen) wrote:

>I am getting ready for a hike in the Grand Canyon and I'm trying to decide
>if it is worth taking my 2M HT with me.  Are there any repeaters that I can
>use while I am in the canyon?  Is there likely to be anyone else listening?
>Somehow it seems unlikely to me that I will be the only ham who hikes the
>canyon.

>Thanks!

>Karl Nielsen - KC7LVV

I went rim to rim a year and a half ago and had fairly good coverage
from the repeater Hopi Point on the South Rim (147.320+).  It is
especially usable from the area around Phantom Ranch.  I believe it is
where most of the park rangers communicate too also.  Unfortunately,
if you are further north or south in the canyon,  the repeater will
not be of much use to you and it is the only near there that I am
aware of.  Hope this helps out and Happy Hiking!!!

-- Mike Saunders - KC6RSF



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Radio in the Grand Canyon
Date: 12 Jan 1996 02:17:18 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
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I am getting ready for a hike in the Grand Canyon and I'm trying to decide
if it is worth taking my 2M HT with me.  Are there any repeaters that I can
use while I am in the canyon?  Is there likely to be anyone else listening?
Somehow it seems unlikely to me that I will be the only ham who hikes the
canyon.

Thanks!

Karl Nielsen - KC7LVV


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kenneth D. Dool)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio in the Grand Canyon
Date: 13 Jan 1996 17:29:13 GMT
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X-Newsreader: Cyberjack News 7.00

In article <4d4gbe$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Karl A.
Nielsen) wrote:
> Path: news.netvoyage.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.inc.net!news.sol.net!spool
.m
> u.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!ausnews.aus
ti
> n.ibm.com!bocanews.bocaraton.ibm.com!watnews.watson.ibm.com!frijoles.tucson.
ib
> m.com!nielsen
> From: [e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen)
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
> Subject: Ham Radio in the Grand Canyon
> Date: 12 Jan 1996 02:17:18 GMT
> Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
> Lines: 9
> Sender: [e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen)
> Distribution: world
> Message-ID: <4d4gbe$[e-mail]>
> References: <4d3541$[e-mail]>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: frijoles.tucson.ibm.com
>
> I am getting ready for a hike in the Grand Canyon and I'm trying to decide
> if it is worth taking my 2M HT with me.  Are there any repeaters that I can
> use while I am in the canyon?  Is there likely to be anyone else listening?
> Somehow it seems unlikely to me that I will be the only ham who hikes the
> canyon.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Karl Nielsen - KC7LVV

     Karl, that's a good question.  I would assume that simplex is used
   quite extensively in the Grand Canyon due to line of site restrictions.
   Good luck.

                                                    73 de AB6ZR



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio in the Grand Canyon
Date: 13 Jan 1996 15:09:02 -0700
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[e-mail] (Kenneth D. Dool) wrote:

>In article <4d4gbe$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Karl A
.
>Nielsen) wrote:
>> Path: news.netvoyage.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.inc.net!news.sol.net!spoo
l.m
>> u.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!ausnews.au
sti
>> n.ibm.com!bocanews.bocaraton.ibm.com!watnews.watson.ibm.com!frijoles.tucson
.ib
>> m.com!nielsen
>> From: [e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen)
>> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
>> Subject: Ham Radio in the Grand Canyon
>> Date: 12 Jan 1996 02:17:18 GMT
>> Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
>> Lines: 9
>> Sender: [e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen)
>> Distribution: world
>> Message-ID: <4d4gbe$[e-mail]>
>> References: <4d3541$[e-mail]>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: frijoles.tucson.ibm.com
>>
>> I am getting ready for a hike in the Grand Canyon and I'm trying to decide
>> if it is worth taking my 2M HT with me.  Are there any repeaters that I can
>> use while I am in the canyon?  Is there likely to be anyone else listening?
>> Somehow it seems unlikely to me that I will be the only ham who hikes the
>> canyon.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Karl Nielsen - KC7LVV
>
>     Karl, that's a good question.  I would assume that simplex is used
>   quite extensively in the Grand Canyon due to line of site restrictions.
>   Good luck.
>
>                                                    73 de AB6ZR

You can use the 147.320+ repeater and 442.075+ 100.0 Hz PL,  both work
well quite a ways down into the Canyon.


Daniel




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio in the Grand Canyon
Date: 12 Jan 1996 18:20:13 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
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Sender: [e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen)
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: frijoles.tucson.ibm.com

[e-mail] (Mike Saunders) writes:

|> [e-mail] (Karl A. Nielsen) wrote:
|>
|> >I am getting ready for a hike in the Grand Canyon and I'm trying to decide
|> >if it is worth taking my 2M HT with me.  Are there any repeaters that I ca
n
|> >use while I am in the canyon?  Is there likely to be anyone else listening
?
|> >Somehow it seems unlikely to me that I will be the only ham who hikes the
|> >canyon.
|>
|> >Thanks!
|>
|> >Karl Nielsen - KC7LVV
|>
|> I went rim to rim a year and a half ago and had fairly good coverage
|> from the repeater Hopi Point on the South Rim (147.320+).  It is
|> especially usable from the area around Phantom Ranch.  I believe it is
|> where most of the park rangers communicate too also.  Unfortunately,
|> if you are further north or south in the canyon,  the repeater will
|> not be of much use to you and it is the only near there that I am
|> aware of.  Hope this helps out and Happy Hiking!!!
|>
|> -- Mike Saunders - KC6RSF
|>

Thanks!  Now I just hope that the budget gets figured out so that the canyon
is open!

- Karl Nielsen - KC7LVV


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:40 1996
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From: Gary Pearce KN4AQ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Saturn Car Computer Problems
Date: 13 Jan 1996 17:31:38 GMT
Organization: MMS Information System
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[e-mail] (Leon D. Zetekoff) wrote:
>Connie Haw ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Does anyone have any experiences/expertise to offer regarding the
>: installation of my ham radio in my new Saturn SL2.  I have been told
>: that it could interfere with the car's computer - even activate the
>: airbags!
>
>I have a 93.5 Saturn SC2 coupe and haven't had any problems with my
>2m/440 dualbander. Saturn has a bulletin describing what you need to do
>for radio installations - check with your service dealer. I don't think I
>totally followed everything they said.
>
>73 leon

When I bought my '92 SL2, I first asked the dealer about radio
installation.  We went back to the shop and talked to the service manager,
and reviewed the Service Notes.  The only warnings were the usual ones
about not connecting power thru the existing fuse wiring.  No problems with
the computer, etc.  They even showd me how to pull the headliner down and
remove moldings and seats to route the antenna and power wires.

I have a 45 watt dual-band mobile, a 25 watt 220 mobile and a 25 watt 10
meter mobile installed, with no adverse effects to the car.  (The fuel pump
makes a lot of RF noise in the 28 MHz area, though, masking weaker 10 meter
signals -- I need to get that filtered).

I tapped 12 volt power from the bolt that connects the fuse block under the
engine to the battery (there's about a 6" run of heavy guage wire from
there to the battery).  I punched a small hole for the wire in the grommet
that surrounds the steering wheel -- I think -- and filled in around the
hole with a sealer.

Things may have changed a bit since '92, but I'm sure you'll have no
problems.

73,
Gary KN4AQ


--
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
      +   Gary Pearce        AVID Editor              KN4AQ       +
      +   Raleigh, NC      Franklin Video         Amateur Radio   +
      +                                                           +
      +                  [e-mail]                       +
      +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:42 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Saturn Car Computer Problems
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 23:05:23 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)
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NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1d.delphi.com
X-To: Leon D. Zetekoff <[e-mail]>

I have heard (strictly 2nd and 3rd hand information, mind you) that Saturns
present some rather unique problems.  First, many of the body panels are made
of a material other than ferous metals or aluminum.  This can cause some
problems in the installation of roof mounted antennas where the roof surface i
s
expected to perform as the "ground plane" for the popular 1/4 or 5/8 wave
radiators.  If they're not metal, they won't conduct.  This would become
obvious if a "mag mount" antenna base wouldn't "stick" to a rooftop; a problem
I encountered in the early 1970's with the first Honda imports.  In the 1972
coupe models, a mag mount antenna would stick to the roof, but only up to abou
t
60 MPH.  (Speed limits on some Eastern US highways were 70 MPH at that time!)
Hope this was helpful, and that others can provide further enlightenment.
-
Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB
Stillwater, NY
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (CRONIN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Saturn Car Computer Problems
Date: 15 Jan 1996 04:43:15 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Stephan M. Anderman  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I have heard (strictly 2nd and 3rd hand information, mind you) that Saturns
>present some rather unique problems.  First, many of the body panels are made
>of a material other than ferous metals or aluminum.  This can cause some
>problems in the installation of roof mounted antennas where the roof surface
is
>expected to perform as the "ground plane" for the popular 1/4 or 5/8 wave

On Saturns horizontal panelsl are steel.  Vertical panels are plastic.
I used a 1/4 wave mag mount on my 92 SL2 until I got fed up with dangling
cords and drilled through the roof for a permanent installation.

Back to the original question.  I haven't had any problems with a dual band
mobile in the Saturn.  After all, airbag electronics have to tolerate
driving by 950,000 watt TV transmitters without exploding.

73..Jim  N2VNO


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 11:10:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Saturn Car Computer Problems
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In article <4d5jeg$[e-mail]>, Leon D. Zetekoff ([e-mail]) write
s:
>Connie Haw ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Does anyone have any experiences/expertise to offer regarding the
>: installation of my ham radio in my new Saturn SL2.  I have been told
>: that it could interfere with the car's computer - even activate the
>: airbags!
>
>I have a 93.5 Saturn SC2 coupe and haven't had any problems with my
>2m/440 dualbander. Saturn has a bulletin describing what you need to do
>for radio installations - check with your service dealer. I don't think I
>totally followed everything they said.
>
>73 leon
>


It's all of the plastic they use in the car.  The only noted problem with my
moms car was when we took it to Las Vegas one weekend.  It seemed that the
transmission failed to shift, and the cruse control also malfunctioned
during the trip.  This after transmitting 5 watts from a HT.  Once the car
stopped, the computer reset it's self.

I think these problems occured due to a lack of sheilding the onboard
computer from the world.  There is also a limited ground system in those
cars.  The lack of a hardend steel frame can cause ground loops from hell.
Since there is no frame to ground things to, wire needs to be ran.

You may find antenna problems too.  Not so much with tuneing them, but with
proper patterns.  All in all I am glad I got my Jeep.  I almost got a Saturn.



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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Saturn Car Computer Problems
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4dcm14$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (CRONIN)
writes:
>
>Back to the original question.  I haven't had any problems with a dual band
>mobile in the Saturn.  After all, airbag electronics have to tolerate
>driving by 950,000 watt TV transmitters without exploding.

Yeah, but the car is more than 1000 feet from the radiator of that
TV signal (vertical separation), and our good friend the inverse square
law says the signal strength of a 1 watt radio in the car will equal the
strength delivered to the car by that megawatt transmitter over 1000 feet
away (the broadcast field strength will actually be even less than that
because the main lobe of the antenna will be aimed at the horizon (about
30 miles away) and you'll be well below it). If you run more than 1 watt
in the car, you'll have to contend with field strengths *in the car* that
are greater than you'd get driving by any TV broadcast facility. That's
why a 5 watt HT can disturb car electronics, but driving by a megawatt
TV broadcast transmitter plant won't.

Antenna height is your friend, something we should never stop reminding
the public, and public officials.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:46 1996
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Hi,

I am working with a student with a disability who is interested in becoming a
ham.  Does anyone have any addresses or names of individuals within Handi-hams
that I could get in touch with?

James Wiedle
WL7N0


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Schaefer)
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Subject: Re: Heathkit Grid Dip Meter
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Chuck Curran  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I need help to identify the model number on an old Heathkit Grid Dip
>Meter from the early 1960's I believe.  I would like to use it but I

This sounds like a GD-1. I think they had some variants identified
by suffix letters through GD-1B. Mine has the model printed in the
middle of the front panel near the legend for the switch on the bottom.

Mine still works well and is in regular use.  73 and good luck with
yours.
--
This posting is purely the personal opinion of
Ed Schaefer  [e-mail]   ham radio: K9JMA


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Todd Little)
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In article <[e-mail]>
Chuck Curran <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I need help to identify the model number on an old Heathkit Grid Dip
> Meter from the early 1960's I believe.  I would like to use it but I
> can't get a photocopy of a manual from Heath unless I already have
> the model number.

It should be labeled right in the middle of the unit on the front panel.
They made 3 variations of the GD-1.  The original was the GD-1, followed
by the GD-1A, and finally the GD-1B.  Look for the model number
just below the dial readout.

73,
Todd
N9MWB



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Stockton)
Subject: Re: Help identify strange morse key?
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[e-mail] wrote:
: Hello,

: I have a strange morse key, of which I should like to know
: the origin. It is a straight key.
: The body forms a case, made of brouwn bakelite. The actual key is
: mounted upside down on the lid inside the case. The bottom of the case is
: basically a cover, with the shape of a bath tub (square with a hinge in
: the back and rounded in the front with a clip for the lid).
: The knob and two isolated contact screws protrude through the cover,
: so it appears to be designed for operation under adverse conditions
: and for keying high voltages. the individual components are marked with
: reference numbers.


      It is British, military, and a little over 50 years old.

      It's usually called "The bathtub key"

      One trick with them is that the lid clip can be pulled over the
disc part of the knob to lock the thing in the key-down position.

      Cheers
             David  GM4ZNX






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From: [e-mail] (Petronet Networks)
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     HELP ME!
     I need schematic diagram of RANGER tranceiver (RCI-2950).
     Please send to:
Box 980, 185020, Petrozavodsk-20, Republic of Karelia, Russia.
     73! RK1NA (ex UN1CD)
     Konstantin Gvozdev
     Thanks you!




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I am looking for a good Ham Radio FTP Site!!!!
Date: 11 Jan 1996 17:27:16 -0800
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[e-mail] (charles copeland) writes:

>In article <4b1h3d$[e-mail]>, Ken Allen <[e-mail]> wrote
:
>>
>>If you know of any good Ham Radio FTP sites, please let me know.
>>The only one that I have is: "ftp.ucsd.edu"

>The best one I've seen was the HAM area in AOL.

Maybe, but you can't get to it via anonymous FTP.

--lyndon



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Reitan)
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Subject: Info Needed on World Radio Laboratory and Globe Products
Date: 14 Jan 1996 06:43:00 GMT
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:96891 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:23747

Could I get your help in locating information on the products of the World
Radio Laboratories (WRL) of Council Bluffs, Iowa.  A book is now being
written on the life of founder Leo Meyerson and WRL.  WRL built and sold
popular amateur transmitter products and electronic parts from 1937 to
1972.  Originally known as Wholesale Radio Labs before WW II, WRL sold the
popular Globe King, Champion, and Scout Transmitters now prized by
collectors.

Although many WRL catalogs are in the Amateur Radio Collection at the
Omaha History / Western Heritage Museum, a number of catalog years are
missing:
1937,1938,1939,1946,1947,1948,1950,1963,1968,1972.  If you have these
catalogs, would you contact me for some questions?  I want to index
product model numbers and prices for each year.

Also, does anyone know the wherabouts of Samual J. Fidone, the designer of
the WRL Globe transmitters during the 1940's and 1959's?  His call sign
was W0QAB.

Thanks for any help!

--
Ed Reitan (UCLA Film and TV Archives)    ITT Gilfillan
Ph: 818-902-2075 Fax: [phone]       7821 Orion Ave.
Email: [e-mail] (Ed Reitan)      Van Nuys, California 91409
Eudora: BinHex


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Randall518)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: INFO WANTED ON HEATH MOHICAN RCVR
Date: 10 Jan 1996 23:41:22 -0500
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Hi all-
Just purchased this 1960 solid state classic from a local estate sale.
Anyone have any experience wit it, know of any mods, or any problems?
Any information is appreciated. It seems to be advanced for its' time.
73
Randy
N2VQD


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (W. E. Van Horne)
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Subject: Re: Is Wayne Green losing it ?
Date: 8 Jan 1996 12:50:02 GMT
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Frank Connelly ([e-mail]) wrote:

: instead.  Wayne is hurting ham radio recently.  He is
: not helping it.  Say goodbye, Wayne.

"Recently" !!??  I remember more than 40 years ago when the young Wayne
Green became the editor of CQ magazine.  He was the first to bring the
techniques of yellow journalism to the ham radio field; I let my
subscription lapse, in response.  Down through the years, several times I
looked at a copy of his latest efforts and found that he hadn't changed
much, and what changes there were were not for the better.

I have always found that, as people get older, their bad habits don't get
better, they get worse.  Green is another manifestation of that.  I also
have to admit that the same applies to me!   :-)

73, Van - W8UOF
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tim Smith)
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Subject: Re: Is Wayne Green losing it ?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 18:33:22 GMT
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In article <4ckihj$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Horrock) wrote:
>I like the old boy, really I do.  Maybe he sold turn 73 over to me.  I'll
>turn it back into the mag it once was in 1977!

Now that's an understatement!  Remember the series of CB to 10 articles?  What

a magazine it was!

N1BTQ

Tim Smith

Email: [e-mail]
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/tsmith/tsmith.html
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Don Simpson)
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Subject: Re: Is Wayne Green losing it ?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 14:15:59 GMT
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Everett Curry <[e-mail]> wrote:


{>That's better than if he were to be caught up in religion
{>which is totally non-rational. If he suddenly starts
{>spouting religion, then we'll know he has well and truly
{>lost it.
{>
{>Gary
{>--
{>Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     |
gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
{>Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     |
emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
{>534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      |
[e-mail]
{>Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

{Even folks who support Wayne's many contributions could differ on
other
{issues. Right? Gary.

{The Rev. Everett Curry
{K6VGL
{Hillsboro OR

I prefer the 73 magazine over qst's catalog and  contesting reports.
Wayne may be loosing contact with the rest of us but I still get a
kick out of reading him.

Don't mean to interfere with your bashing here but imagine when and
if  '73 is gone.  That will leave qst and .......     ughhhhhh.   Some
thought huh?  Then the potential ham can really get a all too true
version of what the hobby is...    Overpriced equipment and
contests...

Keep it up Wayne!!!!!!

73 from DON DON   KO4TA  ---  See you on the radio...






From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Shumway )
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Subject: Re: Is Wayne Green losing it ?
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In <4d3k6s$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Weir) writes:
>
>
..snip...
>BTW,
>anybody noticed the horrendous job of proofreading they are doing
>these days?  The new editor must be getting paid what he is worth.
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
>RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
>Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
>voice/fax [phone]   |
>[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A
N73CQ
>

The quality of the photo content has also hit the bottom!

Steve Shumway
N8SHP
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:43:59 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
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Subject: Re: Is Wayne Green Losing it?
Date: 16 Jan 1996 01:40:53 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John W Langner) writes:
>The rate for a 1/9 page ad in 73 Magazine recently jumped from
>$149 to $365.   I would expect to see a large drop in the number
>of advertisers.

on the other hand, such a price rise is on the order of the increase in the co
st of
paper and distribution costs in the last few years...at $150, i could even spr
ing
for an ad from time to time...

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clarence Peckham)
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Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo and RFI ???
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In article <4cp750$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>In <4c6h2b$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott
>Ehrlich) writes:
>>
>>
>>I may be purchaseing a Jeep Grand Cherokee Loredo in about 6 months,
>and
>>was wondering if there were any known RFI problems with it?
>>
>>I am aiming for a new model, but may purchase a used one.
>>
>>I'm primarily a VHF/UHF user, but HF is not out of the question.
>>
>>I'm also considering a Ford Bronco or Explorer.  Any recommendations
>>about the SUV (sport/utility vehicle) purchase would also be
>appreciated.
>>
>>I am in the Boston, MA area - I am interested in these SUVs primarily
>for
>>the Winter and snow.
>>
>>73, and Happy New Year to all!
>>
>>
>>--
>>Scott Ehrlich                   Web: http://www.ehrlichtronics.com
>>E-mail: [e-mail]                [e-mail]
>>Amateur Radio Callsign: wy1z
>
>
 I have a '93 Grand Cherokee Laredo with six and auto transmission. I use
VHF as well as HF. The only problem I have is that on 40M the rear window
wiper turns on when I transmit.

On all other bands no problem.

I use an FT900 with outbacker Perth antenna mounted to the Hatch. I
ground the antenna with a wire to the roof. Had very good luck on 20
meters.

Clarence
NT7V/VE3



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:01 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
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>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:

>
>  It really bugs the $%^#!! out of you old guys that I don't "fit" all your
>  pre-conceived notions and tidy little package (no-code tech, technically
>  illiterate, little radio experience, etc.), about who a proponent of
>  eliminating the Morse requirement is supposed to be, doesn't it?
>
>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>   KF4DDM
>
 I will agree with you here..you don't fit *ALL* the notions...just 99 99/100%
 of them...the only thing to your
credit is that you have 5WPM, which by the way is know code.  If Ignorance is
bliss...you must be in a constant
state of sexual ecstacy!!!  Be sure not to ever puncture an eardrum Drew...you
'll let the vaccum out  :-)

steve


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:
>
>In article <4d3b8j$[e-mail]>,
>       Steve - KF2TI <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> I will agree with you here..you don't fit *ALL* the notions...just 99
99/100% of them...the only thing to your
>>credit is that you have 5WPM, which by the way is know code.  If
Ignorance is bliss...you must be in a constant
>>state of sexual ecstacy!!!  Be sure not to ever puncture an eardrum
Drew...you'll let the vaccum out  :-)
>
>The only think Drew passing a 5wpm shows is that we have to do away
with
>multiple-choice code examinations.
>

You don't own the bands, you don't make the rules.  Get used to it!

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:

>:>How any amateur radio operator could be so immature to wander all over
>:>promoting the pinning of coax is beyond me. I guess others are right in

>:>that some no-coders really are CBers in disguise.

>:I see we have yet another one on here who cannot read a callsign database.
>:  I am not a "no-coder."  Better look again; you're making yourself look
>:foolish with your (incorrect) assumptions.

>:It really bugs the $%^#!! out of you old guys that I don't "fit" all your
>:pre-conceived notions and tidy little package (no-code tech, technically
>:illiterate, little radio experience, etc.), about who a proponent of
>:eliminating the Morse requirement is supposed to be, doesn't it?

>:-Drew in Charlotte-
>: KF4DDM

Drew, I formally nominate you for president of SOTCH....Society of
Totally Clueless Hams.... :)

     WK1V



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Try Qualcomm, GEC-Plessey and Phillips.  I would need more details before
I could provide more detailed info.

Larry

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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:06 1996
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From: [e-mail](Michael A. Wyatt )
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In <[e-mail]> "Paul E. Bennett"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>In article <4d5k3v$[e-mail]>
>           [e-mail] "Lars Erup" writes:
>
>> Stanford Telecom (has a wide range of IC's for all kinds of digital
>> communications applications). Others (whom I know less of) include
e.g.
>> Advanced Micro Devices, Analog Devices and PCSI,
>>
>
>In addition you should also try Plessey Electronics in the UK
(Swindon) who do
>a range of PLL devices for receivers and transmitters. Also part of
their range
>are full synthesizers, VOGAD's IF amplifiers, Pre-scaler dividers atc.
>
>One phone number I have is for the Plymouth office who should be able
to re-
>direct you to the right department in Swindon. (Tel: UK 01793-518000)
>
>
>--
>Paul E. Bennett
>[e-mail]
>Going Forth Safely

    Don't forget National Semiconductors new PLL chips, I understand
they are some of the lowest phase noise PLL chips available.

    Mike Wyatt


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In article <4d5k3v$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Lars Erup" writes:

> Stanford Telecom (has a wide range of IC's for all kinds of digital
> communications applications). Others (whom I know less of) include e.g.
> Advanced Micro Devices, Analog Devices and PCSI,
>

In addition you should also try Plessey Electronics in the UK (Swindon) who do

a range of PLL devices for receivers and transmitters. Also part of their rang
e
are full synthesizers, VOGAD's IF amplifiers, Pre-scaler dividers atc.

One phone number I have is for the Plymouth office who should be able to re-
direct you to the right department in Swindon. (Tel: UK 01793-518000)


--
Paul E. Bennett
[e-mail]
Going Forth Safely


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From: obartels@  (Oliver Bartels)
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In <4da3ep$[e-mail]>, [e-mail](Michael A. Wyatt
) writes:
>    Don't forget National Semiconductors new PLL chips, I understand
>they are some of the lowest phase noise PLL chips available.
Just to add another manufacturer: Check Temic Telefunken, e.g. U2784 dual PLL
up to 2,2GHz.

     Ciao Oliver



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In article, [e-mail] (Matt Overholt) wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone has any experience in packet radio with the
> macintosh, and can lead me into the right direction for such things and
> packet modems and software.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Overholt
> KC8BMI
>
> --
> Matt Overholt

I use a Quadra 605 with a KPC-3 and a Radio Shack HTX 202. For software I
use ZTerm which works great!

--
73s de N3TLJ


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:11 1996
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From: Andrew Austin <[e-mail]>
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Can any one help with this one - I need to get the circuit for
the program plug that is used with the SMP4001 program
software.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tac63)
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Subject: Maxtrac-100 2 Channel to 32 Channel????
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I know you can reprogram a Maxtrac-100 2 channel VHF high band to a 16
channel, but how about to a 32 channel??  It has a 5 pin connector in the
rear.  Any technical advice would be greatly appreciated.  Thanx in
advance.

Ron
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Maybe a Dumb Question?
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In article <4d4ff7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mike Liston) write
s:
>I am not a ham, but I have a good friend that is.  He asked me if I could
>find out where the term HAM originated. He thought it might come from
>High Amplitude Modulation or maybe it is short for "hamateur". Could
>somebody help us out?  Thanks.

This question seems to come up every few weeks, Mike. You'll hear the
tale of little amateur radio station HAM, the call sign supposedly
formed by the initials of 3 students at Harvard, who supposedly single
handedly saved amateur radio back in the teens. Unfortunately, there's
no proof whatsoever that these students ever existed, or that they
operated a station with the call sign HAM. They supposedly testified
before Congress, but a careful scrutiny of the Congressional Record
for the period has turned up exactly zero evidence to back this claim.

You'll also hear the story of Home Amateur Mechanic, a magazine published
in early radio days which featured plans for simple amateur radios, thus
one might say that he operated a HAM radio. Home Amateur Mechanic certainly
did exist, and it did publish radio plans, but there's no solid record that
this is the origin of the term. (Though I tend to lean toward this explanation

as the most plausible.)

And finally you'll hear the story of the use of the term "ham",
as in hamfisted, as a derogatory term for unprofessional wireline
telegraphers. The story goes that the term became associated with
amateur radio operators when commercial wireless telegraphy first
started. There's also no proof that this is true, though the term
"LID" certainly did originate from wireline operators. That stemmed
from the practice by poor operators of putting a tobacco can lid
on the sounder to make the code easier to copy. The term "fist"
also came from wireline slang.

The only real answer is that the origin of the term has been lost
in the mists of antiquity. Nobody really knows how the term ham
came to be, nor where it originated. You'd think this would be
simple, with QST dating back to before WWI, surely there would
be some mention there, but no, there isn't. QST was steadfastly
stuffy in the early days, and didn't use the term until *much*
later, after it had become well established in common usage.

The one thing we can say, however, is that the term is almost
certainly of American origin. That's because it was in wide
use here before the advent of regular international contacts.
Thus the Cockney "hamateur" origin is almost certainly wrong.
And we can also say it had nothing to do with voice modulation
since the term was in wide use back in the spark days before
voice transmissions were common.

Is it HAM (for Home Amateur Mechanic), or is it ham (as in
hamfisted)? No one knows. But typical practice today is to
*not* write it in all caps as an acronym, but rather to use
it as a simple noun. That's just modern usage, however, in
the Morse days, there was no case distinction, so HAM or ham,
they were the same over the air.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:15 1996
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>I guess I'm what a lot of people are calling a "wanna-be"tech,
>I'm a no-code tech, but I am working on the upgrade.
>I am currently practicing code using a morse code trainer on the
>PC (cp.exe shareware), but I'm having some difficulty.  Any
>help in the following areas would be greatly appreciated.

>1)  What symbols do I need to learn to pass the 5wpm and 13wpm
>exams? I know I need letters and numbers, but what about
>punctuation and CW symbols?

>2)  Any general tips on the best way to learn and improve speed?
>The CP program is excellent in its way of grouping letters in
>it's beginner menu, but I still have difficulty in hearing,
>decoding, and WRITING DOWN a letter before the next one starts.
>I also occasionally misidentify "dahs" as "dits". (What can I say,
>six years in the US Army Field Artillery will do wonders for the
>ears).  Should I be writing down letters as I hear them, or should
>I use some sort of shorthand to write fast enough?

>3) What are the specs for the code that is used in the 5wpm and
>13wpm exams?
>i.e.:
>Tone frequency?
>Spacing?
>Words or random letters?
>dah to dit time ratio?
>How long is the test transmission?
>Are we given time to clean up our copy after transmission is
>complete?
>How many mistakes are we allowed?
>As you may be able to guess, I've never taken a code exam yet,
>so I'm looking for all the insight I can get.

>73
>Vince

Vince,

        The best advice ANYONE can give you is to practice, practice,
practice! However, remember only perfect practice will yield perfect
results. Its been a while since I've had a code test (i'm now an
Advanced class), but I do know you will need to know all numbers and
letters, the period, the slash mark, question mark and several
"special" codes (ar, dn, etc.). These were all I remember being tested
on.

        After the code is sent, usually for about 4-5 minutes, I had a test.
Mine was multiple choice; others can be fill-in-the-blank! The test
asked simple questions like what was the calling person's callsign,
what was the weather, the signal strength, etc. Don't worry about
missing some letters - not many people can copy perfect code! But if
you copy enough characters you will get the idea of the message. Be
sure to copy the call signs as accurate as possible. I'm not sure if
shorthand is allowed, but then again my handwriting looked like
shorthand when I was done!!!

        Code tapes are helpful. As a matter of fact, I passed both the 5 and
13 WPM tests without ever being on the air! The best tapes that I used
were from ARRL. I started out with the Radio Shack tapes. The testing
center that I went to used a form of the ARRL tapes, so I recommend
those highly.

        And remember, practice, practice, practice!

Tony, KE4ATO
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:16 1996
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Hello Gang,

  I've got some telegraph key restorations going and need a few parts to
  finish up.

1. Bunnell Gold Bug -- need the circuit closing lever and mounting hardware.
2. McElroy A-400 bug -- need thumbpiece and weights.  A-400 or P-500 parts OK
3. Signal Electric Semantic -- need the pendulum stop post.
4. Electro Bug -- need weights.  need one thumbscrew and jam nut.
5. Levinson Radio "Like-A-Flash" -- need finger pieces, binding posts.
6. Logan SPEED-X reverse frame -- need finger pieces
7. Clapp-Eastham -- need binding posts
8. Independent Wireless -- need binding posts

   Would buy parts off your junkers or buy your junkers for the parts.

--

73 de K5RW     - Neal McEwen                    - Richardson, TX (Dallas)
  ******** I collect old telgraph and wireless telegraph keys  *********
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:17 1996
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Subject: Re: New Plastic IMPERVIOUS to LASERS?
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Yes, I read about that some time ago in a magazine somewhere, perhaps at
the barbershop. Seems that a hairdresser was dabbling with plastics and
came up with a certain combination that defies logic. Saw the post on
alt.conspiracy just a few days ago. Try "Earlier Posts" or "Earliest
Posts" if you are using Netscape. Or try a search engine. Should be there
somewhere. Best wishes, Henry.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:18 1996
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From: Henry Ayre <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: New Plastic IMPERVIOUS to LASERS?
Date: 15 Jan 1996 21:35:58 GMT
Organization: Internet Alaska Inc.
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The last I heard of this subject the hairdresser was talking to several
major corporations... through a lawyer, to be sure. I think the British
government was in the wings, wringing its hands... or was it MI5? H.
Ayre.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James M. Atkinson, Communications Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.radio.scanner,misc.survivalism
Subject: New USENET group - alt.security.tscm
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 20:58:14 -0500
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New USENET group announcement,

There is now a USENET newsgroup dedicated to the TSCM industry, check it out.


alt.security.tscm

 ===============================================================
    James M. Atkinson          "...Shaken, not Stirred..."
    TSCM.COM
    127 Eastern Avenue #291
    Gloucester, MA 01931-8008
    URL: http://www.tscm.com/      E-Mail:  [e-mail]
 ===============================================================
    The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and the Most
    Complete TSCM Counterintelligence Site on the Internet
 ===============================================================


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (C G Wheeler)
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Date: 11 Jan 1996 14:24:27 -0800
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>From:
>            [e-mail] (booboo)
>Organization:
>            Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C.


Callsign: KB7SVP
      Name: DAVID M CORRIGAN
     Addr1: 1900 BROOK LN APT J7
     Addr2: ELLENSBURG WA   98926
   Country: USA
     Class: Technician
 Effective: 23 Feb 1993
   Expires: 23 Feb 2003
      Born: 16 Aug 1968
     Email: [unknown]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 96 00:26:09 GMT
Organization: Montana Communications Network
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In article <4d4g0r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce Herder) wrote:

>  So all you Extras (and to a certian extent Advanced) class operators out
>there... go ahead and post your stupid little posts...and complain, whine,
>and bitch on 20 and 40 meters.... and sit on your big soft fat asses, and
>bask in the "glory" of how much BETTER you are than the rest...
>just think about all the others YOU have driven away with your ATTITUDES,
>and wonder where all the hams have gone when the FCC is selling off your
>precious frequencies!
>                                     de Bruce - KD6SKA
>>
>

I was not refering to codeless techs.  I was refering to individuals that want

to eliminate code all-to-together.

Has America gotten stupid? Forty years ago you could find people who could
do CW at speeds better than 35 wpm.  Today, we have major problems with
5, 13, and 20 wpm.

73 de KB7ADL



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:23 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: 12 Jan 1996 21:11:02 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
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In <4d603o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tony Davee) writes:
>[e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) wrote:
>
>
>
>>  10-4 ??
>
>_ _ .   .   _       . _         . _ . .    . .    . .  _ .    .

  G      E   T       A             L       I       F        E

>
>_ _ _      _ _      !!!!!!!!
>
   O          M


And to think I'm a no-coder who didn't even look this up.


73 de KC7GNM
Greg




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 10:14:35 GMT
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[e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) wrote:



{:->>>  10-4 ??


Sounds like this is coming from somebody who THINKS he's better than others JU
ST
because he happens to know a few dots and dashes and a little electronic theor
y.

Or. it's somebody wishing to start some sort of useless dribble on an otherwis
e
useful newsgroup.


Roger Randolph  -  Cheyenne Wyoming
[e-mail]
Web Page -
http://www.tcd.net/~randolph/
Country Artist Fan Club listings and
Links to HitMakers WWW pages
Soon to have Scanner Freqs and Links



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Date: 14 Jan 1996 06:20:21 GMT
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Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I was not refering to codeless techs.  I was refering to individuals that
: want to eliminate code all-to-together.

: Has America gotten stupid? Forty years ago you could find people who could
: do CW at speeds better than 35 wpm.  Today, we have major problems with
: 5, 13, and 20 wpm.
: 73 de KB7ADL

Your comments point out the clear reason why code has little, if any,
relavence for today's testing.  It is simply being used less and less,
it is no longer needed for any service outside the amateur bands and
it, therefore, no longer needs to be made a mandatory requirement
(beyond a 5wpm test for international treaty regm'ts.).

40 years ago everyone drove manual gearbox automobiles and everyone
knew how do to so...today we have major problems with drivers ability to
shift a stick shift....so what.  If it isn't important to be sure
everyone that can drive must have the ability to use an outdated manual
gearbox, then why is it so important that every ham on HF learn CW at
13wpm to have access to the majority of ham HF frequencies?

 --
Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl  K2UNK     (Budd lake, New Jersey)      ([e-mail])
ARRL Local Government Liason, Mount Olive Township
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony Davee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 14:49:12 GMT
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[e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) wrote:



>  10-4 ??

_ _ .   .   _       . _         . _ . .    . .    . .  _ .    .

_ _ _      _ _      !!!!!!!!








From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:27 1996
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From: @adsnet.net (6 land sucks!!)
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 20:35:40 GMT
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[e-mail] (C G Wheeler) wrote:



 Callsign: KD6ELA
      Name: CURTIS G WHEELER
     Addr1: PO BOX 5054
     Addr2: SAN RAMON CA   94583
   Country: USA
     Class: Technician
 Effective: 26 Jun 1995
   Expires: 07 Jan 2002
      Born: 02 Jan 1965
     Email: [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Art Winterbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: 14 Jan 1996 07:11:05 -0700
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C'mon, Bruce.  Don't hold back.  Tell us how you really feel about
Extra Class licensees.

--Art N0OQS

--
Art
[e-mail] OR [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Finn          )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 13:54:38 GMT
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[e-mail] (Brian Kantor) said:

>In <4csf3v$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) writes:
>>
>>  10-4 ??
>>

>Professional radio operators (police, fire, taxi, EMS dispatchers)
>use 10-codes to make voice traffic more brief.

>Amateur radio operators use telegraphy abbreviations on voice.

>Which is more appropriate to use?
>       - Brian

Either should be OK. Actually, there would be nothing wrong with hams
using 10 codes...it simply would not be "HAM PC"...but it is more
correct for hams to use voice "10 codes" than to vocalize the
telegraphy  Q codes (just IMHO). But in saying that, I used to live in
Miami and believe it or not, Metro Dade (Miami) was using "Q" codes,
not 10-codes.

73

KR4AJ



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich McAllister)
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
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In article <4d42mr$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (C G Wheeler) writ
es:

>>From:
>>            [e-mail] (booboo)
>>Organization:
>>            Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C.
>
>
>Callsign: KB7SVP
>      Name: DAVID M CORRIGAN
>     Addr1: 1900 BROOK LN APT J7
>     Addr2: ELLENSBURG WA   98926
>   Country: USA
>     Class: Technician
> Effective: 23 Feb 1993
>   Expires: 23 Feb 2003
>      Born: 16 Aug 1968
>     Email: [unknown]

Oooh, this looks like fun!  Can I play?


 Callsign: WB7PRR
      Name: CALVIN C WHEELER
     Addr1: 8203 SW MATTHEW PARK ST
     Addr2: TIGARD OR   97224
   Country: USA
     Class: Novice
 Effective: 31 Aug 1993
   Expires: 31 Aug 2003
      Born: 25 Aug 1946
     Email: [unknown]   Update Email Address
--
Rich McAllister ([e-mail])


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 05:36:26 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>:In <4d603o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tony Davee) writes:
>:>[e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) wrote:
>:>
>:>
>:>
>:>>  10-4 ??
>:>
>:>_ _ .   .   _       . _         . _ . .    . .    . .  _ .    .

>:  G      E   T       A             L       I       F        E

>:>
>:>_ _ _      _ _      !!!!!!!!
>:>
>:   O          M


>:And to think I'm a no-coder who didn't even look this up.


>:73 de KC7GNM
>:Greg

We are so very proud of you!! :)




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (AA9OO Brent)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Nocoders get HF go-for-it
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 00:04:47 GMT
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On 20 Oct 1995 16:05:58 GMT, [e-mail] (Thomas
Randall) wrote:

>Jim Smith ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In article <45f61r$[e-mail]>,
>:    [e-mail] (Gary Davis) wrote:
>: >  A local club is letting nocodes operate on HF to rack up points during
>: >ARRL contests. I'm told its perfectly legal.
>: ..
>: >NOCODES are operating fully equipped HF stations on SSB  and on every HF
>: >band.  I'm told a loop hole in part 97 permits this.


Sure give the no-coders HF But only CW on 40,80 meter bands.


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Not quite on topic
Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:05:34 -0500
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In article <4de2gv$[e-mail]>,
        Burt Fisher  <[e-mail]> wrote:

>There is a BBS network called RIME that thinks it is pretty hot stuff but I d
o
>not. They think they are far better than NEWSGROUPS but ON RIME tin Gods
>act as "hosts" that stifle all debate. Send a message to [e-mail] if you

>agree with me that the Internet is where it is really "happening."
>
>I realize I am not Mr. Popularity here but those that are here are not
>afraid to speak their piece and with rare
>exceptions no one really gets foul.

RIME is composed of a bunch of loud-mouth blow-hards. If you don't like
a topic, critize the moderator of the conference, or post something that
is "off topic" you risk getting blackballed.



>        ■ Personalized:  with RIME conferences, you can address a message
>    to a specific person, as well as to "ALL."  With the Usenet, you
>    are forced to leave messages to "ALL," even when responding directly
>    to someone.

There is no such thing as an "ALL" routing on USENET. All messages posted to
a newsgroup are readable by everyone by default. You can reply to a
specific person's posting, and threaded newsreaders will allow you to read
messages by subject and reply order if you do have the correct software.
This comment from RIME just demonstrates their ignorance.


>    ■ Routed:  like e-mail, RIME messages may be routed to a specific
>    person, bypassing most other people.  There really is no "private"
>    mail in cyberspace, as the system operators can usually read every
>    message that appears on their systems.

"EMAIL" on RIME is just as readable as email on a system connected to
the Internet. Anytime anyone has the keys to the house they are free to
look around with impunity.


>    ■ Family Orientated:  RIME doesn't have ANY conferences dedicated
>    to child pornography, beastiality, fetishes or other "adult" topics
>    like the thousands that exist in the Usenet.  Instead, RIME has
>    adults, teens and children conversing about topics without using
>    profanity, "flames," obscenity and other objectionable language.

Ask RIME about the time one of their network Sysops was arrested for
sexually molesting two teenage boys, and later plead guilty to a reduced
felony morals charge. Even after the conviction RIME allowed him to
continue to run a BBS on their network (great place to troll for new
victims, huh?)


MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


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Date: 16 Jan 1996 11:20:39 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) wrote:

>RIME is composed of a bunch of loud-mouth blow-hards. If you don't like
>a topic, critize the moderator of the conference, or post something that
>is "off topic" you risk getting blackballed.

That is exactly what happens. You have been there.
Contact Bonnie Anthony at [e-mail]


>"EMAIL" on RIME is just as readable as email on a system connected to
>the Internet. Anytime anyone has the keys to the house they are free to
>look around with impunity.

But they like to lie and think otherwise.


>Ask RIME about the time one of their network Sysops was arrested for
>sexually molesting two teenage boys, and later plead guilty to a reduced
>felony morals charge. Even after the conviction RIME allowed him to
>continue to run a BBS on their network (great place to troll for new
>victims, huh?)


You think that is bad there was a host of the legal conference that said he wa
s
a lawyer. It was exposed he was not but RIME refused to dismiss him, the
guy finally was abused enough by users he left on his own.
Of course if he use a 3 line sig he would have been history in 10 seconds.
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Dolkas)
Subject: Re: Not the code, not the test
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Hans Brakob K0HB ([e-mail]) wrote:
: When will we all wake up and realize that good
: amateurs were NEVER made by the examination
: system that happened to be in vogue at any
: given time.
:
: ALL good amateurs became good amateurs by watching
: other good amateurs do it right. (You can classify
: that as a "flat statement".)
:
I wasn't going to get into this code debate, but Hans' said it so well that
I feel the need to support him.  Well said!

Let me also through out my $.02 for a possible new "test", based on this
philosophy....  The idea came after reading an article in QST about how things
are done in other countries - Spain to be exact.  They apparenly have the usua
l
tests, *and* you need to have completed some number of QSOs with some number
of countries.

For us, how about "no code" privileges with limited HF access (perhaps a
subset of the Tech+ privileges on 10m phone and 40m CW (yes, CW!)), and upgrad
e
with testing *and* verified QSOs to gain access to more spectrum space.

The idea behind this is that it forces hams to be hams and interact with hams
(hopefully good ones) to upgrade, and it also allows the ham community at larg
e
to police the upgrade process by not returning the needed QSL cards to anyone
who doesn't deserve it.

Greg  KO6TH


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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
        Greg Dolkas <[e-mail]> wrote:

>For us, how about "no code" privileges with limited HF access (perhaps a
>subset of the Tech+ privileges on 10m phone and 40m CW (yes, CW!)), and upgra
de
>with testing *and* verified QSOs to gain access to more spectrum space.

I've always been a proponent of giving all current Novice CW subbands
to no-code techs so they have a place to "study" and send.

This really wouldn't violate the spirit of the ITU treaty since they
would have to "know" CW to use those bands.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:40 1996
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From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
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In article <4demmh$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Todd Little" writes:

> If that doesn't imply that those who complain are lazy, then perhaps
> British english really is a completely different language.  ;-)

Seems to be a minority language these days, a bit like CW  :-)

> Perhaps you weren't trying to imply that all who push for change
> are lazy, but I ask:  How do you know *anyone* is lazy simply
> by observing them promote change?  To help you out:  You can't.

Agreed. But I never said otherwise, did I?

We seem to have gone off at a complete tangent here Todd, but that
always seems to happen when an emotive issue is discussed in Usenet.

What is it that you're actually trying to change, in what way are
you trying to change it, and why do you think it'll be better if
you succeed? Unless I've misunderstood (in which case please correct
me) you seem to want to set one technical standard, and reduce
(or do away with?) the morse requirement, in which case you'll end
up with a system of licensing more like the UK's.

Meanwhile, similar discussions in uk.radio.amateur seem to tend
towards agreement that we in the UK should look towards the US
system of licensing for examples of how to do it right.

If nothing else, it shows that the grass is greener on the other
side  :-)

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:42 1996
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From: Frederick Ruecker <[e-mail]>
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I am experiencing a problem with alternator whine on the
outgoing signal of a Kenwood 2m rig installed in a 1985 Ford
Taurus with a direct power connection to the battery.  I have
tried a Radio Shack noise filter installed in the power lines
to the rig but the problem was not corrected. The alternator
has been checked out and all the diodes, etc. are OK.  Anyone
have any suggestions on what I could try next to clean up the
signal?

Rick WQ0R
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:43 1996
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Can any one help - I require the circuit diagram for the
program plug that is supplied with the SMP4001 program
software to enable setup of a UHF SL70 handheld



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Can any one help - I require the circuit diagram for the
program plug that is supplied with the SMP4001 program
software to enable setup of a UHF SL70 handheld



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:44 1996
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From: Gregg Houck <[e-mail]>
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Subject: QSO Scheduling Section added to www.houck.com/ham
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Trying to setup a Schedule for EME, scatter, Oscar etc can
be a lot of trouble...  Check out the QSO Scheduling section
at "www.houck.com/ham"...  You Post your schedule request then
other hams checking in to this site can list the Posted
requests and contact them via e-mail..

Check it out and leave me your comments and any other
sugestions for the site..

http://www.houck.com/ham

73's
Gregg
WA3WNE



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:46 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Radio Control -- How to turn on something from 500 feet?
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In article <4df66u$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Mark Lipsky" writes:

> I'm working on a project where I need to have a hand-held radio control
> gadget (like a garage door opener) that I can use to turn something on
> (an AC load) from a distance of 500 feet.  It needs to be "secure"
> (i.e. resistant to people "accidentally" turning it on with their own
> garage door opener).
>
> This is for a commercial application and is not that cost sensitive;
> I'm more concerned about security and reliability.  I only need one so
> I would like to avoid re-inventing the wheel.   Any ideas?

There is equipment like this which uses portable battery-powered remote
control transmitters to switch the contactors of overhead electric cranes,
the type that run along rails high up along the insides of factories and
wharehouses. This frees the driver to do other chores, when nothing is
being moved, without having to climb down a 40ft ladder each time.  The
manufacturer I recall was Telemotive which came from the mid-west, but
there may be others. These are designed and built with industrial quality
and are highly "secure" in your terms.

Make contact with crane or switch gear manufacturers for leads on this.  If
all else fails, a lawyer or paralegal could do a trademark search on
"Telemotive" for you.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Lipsky)
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Subject: Radio Control -- How to turn on something from 500 feet?
Date: 16 Jan 1996 03:31:42 GMT
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I'm working on a project where I need to have a hand-held radio control
gadget (like a garage door opener) that I can use to turn something on
(an AC load) from a distance of 500 feet.  It needs to be "secure"
(i.e. resistant to people "accidentally" turning it on with their own
garage door opener).

This is for a commercial application and is not that cost sensitive;
I'm more concerned about security and reliability.  I only need one so
I would like to avoid re-inventing the wheel.   Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

Mark

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Mark Lipsky, San Diego, CA
EFFECTive ENGINEERING   ****IF YOU CAN DREAM IT, WE CAN BUILD IT****
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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 11:30:16 PST
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Subject: RB413 Emergency Mgt 1/6, The OA

To:   Emergency Management Agencies via Amateur Radio
Info: Communications Volunteers in Government Service
Info: Amateurs U.S. (@usa:Information), ACS, CAP, MARS, RACES
By:   Auxiliary Communications Service (ACS), the volunteer
      communications reserve of the State of California
      Governor's Office of Emergency Services

Bulletin 413: MGT-Emergency Management, 1/6. For release 1/15/96
[First of a six part series to be issued over a 6 week period.]

Query: What is an "Operational Area"?

Response: An Operational Area (OA) is an organization for
emergency management. It is more or less synonymous with a
county, yet different. The OA is a functional organization, and
NOT a jurisdiction. Its boundaries are normally those of a county
(Sec 8559 CA Gov. Code). An OA is not necessarily a county
government; it could be several cities, or a city and a county, a
county government; or several county governments that undertake
to coordinate the flow of mutual aid and information within the
defined area. The OA is the backbone of a statewide emergency
management system. Operational Areas in California serve 58
counties and geographical sub-units such as the Tahoe Basin.

The Operational Area (OA) serves as an integral aspect of a
STATEWIDE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT system. Although code defined
in California, it can apply to other jurisdictions in function as
well as conceptual form.

A STATEWIDE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT system is the means of adjusting
flow of resources (both human and material) and information
BETWEEN JURISDICTIONS of all levels of government in a state. It
speaks to what resources and information are needed, how these
resources and information are requested; from whom, by whom,
using what forms, what terms. This is called a Mutual Aid system
in some states and in California. More about that system in part
two of this series, next week.

Want help, info? E-mail to [e-mail] or [e-mail].
Ph: 916-262-1600. FAX [phone]. Packet: [e-mail]
Origination Stn: W6WWW@KM6PX.#NOCAL.USA.NA.  BBS 916-262-1657
ACS c/o State OES, 2800 Meadowview Rd., Sacramento, CA. 95832.
EOM



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:50 1996
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Jeffrey Pawlan <[e-mail]> wrote:

{There is no time better than the present to learn how to
{repair your own equipment.  You do have an amatuer license?

I have a friend that has an amateur repair do it yourself video
selection.   That will teach you how to do simple repairs on the most
common hf equipment.

He has a web page and you can order it off the web I think.....

His address is .....

        The Radio Doctor's Homepage
        http://www.mindspring.com/~n4da/top.html

Good Luck....


You are cordially invited to stop by the World Wide Web Page for A.S.A.P. Prot
ection Company at....

           http://www.mindspring.com/~ko4ta/alarm.html
Burglar/Fire Alarm  Equipment  for Sale at "Installer Direct" Pricing!



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Seth)
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Subject: Repeaters
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I'm looking to setup a repeater and I was wondering if anyone had
ideas as to what equipment is good.
It will be 2m band with autopatch and other little goodies.
thank you.
      Seth, KB2WLU



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:52 1996
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From: Neil Vachharajani <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Repeaters
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 19:31:55 +1130
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Does anyone know of any repeaters in the Trenton, NJ area.  I would
prefer 2-meter repeaters but any information would be great.
Thanks

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Neil Vachharajani   Micro Systems Laboratories       Phone:[phone]
[e-mail]   Computer Parts & Service     Fax:[phone]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:53 1996
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[e-mail] (Seth) wrote:
>I'm looking to setup a repeater and I was wondering if anyone had
>ideas as to what equipment is good.
>It will be 2m band with autopatch and other little goodies.
>thank you.
>      Seth, KB2WLU
>

I have been very happy with the Hamtronics REP-200 repeater.  We have
one in a commercial site with about 30 other transmitters and with
a good 6 cavity reject duplexer and an extra pass cavity on the
receiver it performs very well with little or no received interference.
It contains a good controller with autopatch and a couple of other
remote control functions.  It is easily re-configured over the air
with DTMF.  Our site is at 1300 feet amsl and is a walk-in with
snowshoes for 3 to 6 months of the year.  The repeater has never
given any trouble whatsoever.  It is on 146.28/88 with carrier
squelch.  It's also very tiny.  Don't scrimp on the duplexer and
antenna.  We bought top of the line commercial stuff.

A good surplus radio for conversion to a repeater is the General
Electric Custom MVP mobile.  It's essentially the same circuitry as
their big MASTR II repeater.  A minor wiring modification on the
audio-squelch board and viola! a duplex radio.  Add a controller
and you have a repeater.  Actually, they even sold a version of this
that ran 5 watts AS A repeater.  The normal mobile is 25 watts.
I recently saw these on the used market for less than $200 each.
You need to send the channel elements to International or other
crystal company and they will re-crystal the element to your
frequency for a few bucks. I've converted a few to the 440 band with
no problems, just re-tune.  I haven't tried it on 146.  If the front-
end helical resonator won't re-tune, it can be difficult to modify.
The transmitter shouldn't be much problem.

Good luck,
Regards,   j0e  WL7AML
           Kodiak, Alaska




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My company located in Seattle, Wa. is looking for a highly
experienced and motivated RF circuit designer with solid state and vacuum
tube experience from 100 W to
10 KW +. Must have good analytical skills, self starter. Ham ticket would
not hurt. BSEE plus 10 years experience min.  100 + employee company with
world class reputation building RF excited CO2 lasers.

Peter Laakmann, WB 6 IOM     PLaakmann @ AOL.COM



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:55 1996
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From: Art Roberts <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Rio Grande Valley activity
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 09:05:31 -0800
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Hi OM's & YL's

My wife and I are heading south, to the Rio Grande Valley area, in late
April.  I was curious about the packet and 2m - 440 FM activity.

And, of course, I would like to make a contact, or two, with the local
amateurs, to learn more about the area.

Thanks for reading, an hope to hear from you soon.

Art  W1GOM
--
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/  Arthur & Elaine Roberts  /
/        Norman, OK         /
/     [e-mail]      /
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Emmanuel Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Routing with AX.25-utils
Date: 10 Jan 1996 10:58:19 GMT
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Could someone tell me how I can use the ax25-utils to set up a default
route for ax25 as follows :
==> all packet have to go by default to ON1KUL-10 VIA ON4CP-6
I tried to do this with axparms -add 1 ON1KUL-10 ON4CP, but all the
packets for ON1KUL-10 go directly to it instead of VIA ON4CP-6...
We have been searching on this for several hours now, but we can't work
it out... Who can help us with this please ??
Thanks for the reply.

[e-mail]

(PLEASE send a copy of your reply via e-mail. Thanks)



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Chet)
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Subject: S-Com 7K
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 23:21:11 GMT
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I just bought an S-Com 7K controller for my repeater..
DTMF keypad'n is giving me mushroom fingers.. is there a
shareware/free ware program way for programing this puppy?
tnx
73
KA1ILH




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:57 1996
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From: Charles Bolland <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: SHORTWAVE, MEDIUMWAVE, LONGWAVE, BROADCAST RADIO STATION DATABASE
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 14:15:06 +0000
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Hello,

If you would like a full feature Broadcast Radio Station Database with
at least 4,000 records already entered,  send your Postal Address via
Email to [e-mail].  The program will be send back in return
Email..

The address is for registration purposes and is necessary to receive
the program..

This program is a stand alone program that runs from the C prompt of
your computer.  No other programs are necessary...

The program can be edited and updated with an indefinite number of
records.

Don't forget the Postal Address....

hope to hear from you

Chuck

KA4PRF


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James Rimmer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Shuttle Repeater Freqs in NC?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:19:16 GMT
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Hi All!
Does anyone have or can point me to where I can find the repeater freq. in the

Charlotte, NC area on which I can listen to shuttle audio rebroadcast on my
scanner? Any info will be greatly appreciated.
Also, hopefully by the end of next month I will be ready to test for my
Tech-Plus license. Can anyone recommend a good mobile rig for a beginner in
the $300.00 range(new or used). It must have autopatch capability and can I
find a dual-bander in this price range? Also, what are some of the better
mobile antennas out there?
                                      Thanks very much in advance!
                                                                        James



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:44:59 1996
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From: Rick Lehman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Slow Scan TV
Date: 13 Jan 1996 09:03:16 GMT
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Try http://www.gate.net/~rlehman/



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:00 1996
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From: Helmut Strickner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Soundcard spectrum analyzer software?
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[e-mail] (John Frank) wrote:
>In article <197cc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>says...
>>
>>>Somewhere I remember seeing software that lets you use a PC soundcard,
>like
>>>a SoundBlaster, as an AF spectrum analyzer.  I'm not sure if it
>required
>>>you to have your own noise generator, or if it generated noise or had
>>>a tracking generator simulator built in or what.  Anyone know anything
>>>about it?  Anyone have it?  Does it work well?  How does it work?
>>
>>>Please respond by email.  Thanks.
>>
>>>                                                       --- Jeff
>>>--
>>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>=-=-=-=-
>>> Jeff DePolo  WN3A            Twisted Pair: H:610-337-7383
>W:215-387-3059 x300
>>> [e-mail]  RF: 442.1 442.2 442.4 443.45 443.8 444.15
>linked
>>> Claim to Fame: I got the first speeding ticket on the information
>superhighway
>     One source is Pioneer Hill Software, 24460 Mason Rd., Poulsbo,
>WA 98370, 206-697-3472. They have two version of their software
>called Spectra and Spectra Plus. I uses Windows 3.1 and any sound
>board that is windows compatible. It is a single channel analyzer.
>Have the Spectrum Plus and it works very well.
>
>                 Jack   WB3ICL    [e-mail]
>
Is there a demo software available from this company?

Are they on the internet?

Helmut




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DY HEINRICH)
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RRRath ([e-mail]) wrote:
: There are several-the best I have tried are:
: freq4.zip -on Simtel works graet especially with Pro Audio Spectrum 16 ,
: up to 80 db dynamics, rapid online

: cool152.zip -- offline up to 120db
: hpwfft1.zip offline demo up t0 140 db


Where can we find these last two?  I have been on the lookout for these
two for some time now.

Heinrich
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Alldread)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Soundcard spectrum analyzer software?
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 15:30:00 GMT
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 >freq4.zip -on Simtel works graet especially with Pro Audio Spectrum 16 ,
 >up to 80 db dynamics, rapid online


Greetings Robert:

        Thank you for the above posting!

        I do not know what a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 sound card is. Could
I expect similar results with a Creative Labs 16 card?

73 de VE7TMA

---
 * QMPro 1.53 * Very Best Regards, [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Johnny Gaelens)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Strono tranceiver : Info please
Date: 16 Jan 1996 11:29:31 GMT
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Hello,

Can someone deliver me more info about a Storno 2000.
This is a portable tranceiver with a Gal where the
frequenties are programed. I`m looking for a GAL with some
usefull frequenties in the 2m band. Does anyone know
how to program that, or how I can get those e-proms ?

Regards

Johnny




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:04 1996
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From: Joe Cardani <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tech Question on Motorola Trunking
Date: 15 Jan 1996 18:47:32 GMT
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A few years ago, an excellent  technical overview w
relating to how Motorola Type I trunking systems operated was
posted. From the posting, I understood the following:

On the system data channel, a "channel grant" is transmitted to
the mobile/handheld radio. This grant (or outbound signaling word)
"OSW" is sent twice in rapid sucession. IThe word s 84 bits in length
and is sent at 3600 bits per second.

It includes the following info:

1. Individual ID of radio
2. Fleet/subfleet of radio
3. Type of Call (individual or group)
4. Number of voice channel to be used (ie channel to switch to)

My questions are relating to this OSW: and are:

1. Is the above data transmission sync or async? If  async,
   are there any start or stop bits associated? If sync, what is the
   best way to identify the start of the word?

2. Is there any parity or error correction included in the OSW for
   the channel grant? If so is it at start or end?

3. What are the length  and positions of the elements within the
   channel grant osw? (eg. the radio id is the first
   position and is x bits long , etc)

4. In addition, in the absence of the channel grant OSW 's ,
   background OSW's are transmitted by the data channel.
   How can I indentify these OSW's a
   as  well as the channel grant ones?



Thank you so much in advance. This information will provide
extremely helpful in my understanding of the system.

Joe Cardani


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:05 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #146 (for air through 1/19/96)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 23:07:01 -0500
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #146 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 19-Jan:
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1.   STS-72 Shuttle Launch Successful with Packet Experiment Aboard
2.   MIR Ham-Cosmonauts Unpack More Amateur Radio Gear
3.   Canadian Amateurs Take First Step Toward Self-regulation
4.   Industry Canada Approves Special Amateur Prefixes
5.   AMSAT Phase 3-D Team Looking for Specialized Construction Help
6.   "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #961 from Los Angeles
7.   Weekly Propagation Forecast with George Bowen, N2LQS
8.   FCC Approves DBS Frequency Auction, Despite Federal Shutdown
9.   OPDX Reports Delay on Mount Athos DXAC Vote, New DXAC Member
10.  "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
11.  "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
12.  Upcoming Special Event Station
13.  Update on "This Week's" Pending Move to Canadian Satellite
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"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST) and carried on VHF/UHF
repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.
Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Here in the Capital District, "This Week in Amateur Radio" is heard
on our "flagship" repeater, WA2OQE/R in Troy, on 145.33 MHz,
courtesy of the Niagara-Mohawk Amateur Radio Club.  The program is
repeated Mondays at 8:00 PM.
-
Due to the loss of satellite facilities, the service is being
carried exclusively on 160 meters and on the local 145.33 repeater.
The "Tech Talk Network" awaits the signing of a contract with the
new satellite uplink carrier.  "This Week in Amateur Radio" should
return to satellite air later this month.  Details will be posted
as conditions warrant.  All affiliates are requested to contact the
producers for further information.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jose Antonio Gonzalez)
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Subject: TO REF MEMBERS
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 13:25:57 GMT
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Hello!

Is there any logging soft for the next CW REF Contest?

Merci

73


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Davis)
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Subject: TS 700 add ons?
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--
[e-mail]     Robert (Bob) Davis
                   Amateur Radio K0FPC
                   Emporia, Kansas


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:08 1996
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Subject: TS700 improvements ??
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I have just purchased a TS700 S and another ham has a TS700 A . They
both drift off frequency in at least SSB mode as they warm up. They also
tend to be a little deaf. I have been told that there were some mods
or circuit changes to stop / slow the drift and a circuit addition
of a preamp to improve reception. Any sources for the mods or the magazine
name, article title, page etc. for these would be appreciated.
email to me at - [e-mail] -


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:09 1996
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From: mvogel@134.96.68.11 (Manfred Vogelgesang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TV disturbs radio
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 15:59:52 GMT
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mvogel@134.96.68.11 (Manfred Vogelgesang) wrote:

>Hi,

>although I am no radio amateur (at least so far), I thought, it would
>be a good idea to ask a question in this group, where experts might
>read it.

>My problem is:
>Listening to shortwave (this also means the ham bands), I get a lot of
>trouble with TV sets in our house (and to a less degree from the
>neighbourhood, too). About every 15 kHz, I get a lot of interference
>by TV when listening to my shortwave radio. DXing is considerably
>restricted then.
>So what could I do? I know that there might be some filters, although
>I can't find them in any shop here.
>Are audio filters, notch filters ... also effective against TV
>interference? What about preselectors?

>If someone might give me a hint, I would be very glad. But please
>consider that I am not very talented or experienced in constructing
>devices on my own.

>Hoping to get answers
>Best 73

>Manfred



Hi,

I'd like to thank all of you for your help as to my problem that TV
sets disturb shortwave reception.

If someone still wants to express his/her own ideas concerning this
issue, he/she may still do it.

Manfred



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:10 1996
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The "every 15 kHz or so" you refer to is actually every 15.750 kHz, which
happens to be the horizontal sweep frequency. Very steep wavefronts are
generated in the flyback circuit, which produces RFI all over the place!

Good luck on avoiding it!

Terry/WB4FXD



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Buch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TV disturbs radio
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:40:58 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>The "every 15 kHz or so" you refer to is actually every 15.750 kHz, which
>happens to be the horizontal sweep frequency. Very steep wavefronts are
>generated in the flyback circuit, which produces RFI all over the place!

>Good luck on avoiding it!

>Terry/WB4FXD

15.750 KHz was the frequency when black and white TV was the
standard.  When the NTSC standard for color was adopted, the
horizontal sweep frequency was changed to 15,734.264 Hz + or
- .044 Hz.  The frequency is chosen to be 2/455 times the
chrominance subcarrier frequency which is 3,579,545 Hz + or
- 10 Hz.  This relationship is required to minimize the
visibility of the color subcarrier when seen on the wide
bandwidth black and white receivers that existed before
color was introduced.  It also helps modern receivers using
comb filter techniques to remove subcarrier induced
artifacts in the color picture while still allowing broad
bandwidth luminance signals through the receiver.

The tolerances quoted here apply to USA broadcast
transmission standards.  Signals originating from consumer
VCR's and video cameras may vary.  For further study, you
may want to consult the Reference Data for Radio Engineers.
In the fifth edition the information quoted here is in
Chapter 28 Broadcasting and Recording.

~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'
Joe Buch N2JB
Editor, NASWA Journal Technical Topics
[e-mail]
-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_



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From: Marty Jones <mjones@mw17>
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Subject: Uniden HR2600 - Where to buy one!
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Are there any mail-order houses selling new (not refurb) units?

If so, who and what price?

Best Regards,

Marty Jones

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Probert)
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Subject: US Hams want to operate in UK
Date: 10 Jan 1996 18:37:14 -0800
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Two of my sons have the opportunity to go with me
on a trip to Great Britain later this month.

All three of us are licensed U.S. hams, and we would
like to operate over there (at least on two meters).

Questions:

        Anybody know what we need to do?

        Are 144-148 valid amateur frequencies in the UK?

        Are most 2m repeaters open like they are here?

        Do they operate with PL tones like in the U.S.?

        Anybody have a list of repeaters near London and Bristol?

Plus

My oldest wants to operate 2m aboard the aircraft while
overflying the U.S.  Is my understanding correct that:

        Operation of radio equipment is not allowed within
        15 minutes of takeoff and landing under any circumstance?

        Otherwise operation while airborne only requires the
        consent of the captain?

Thanks.
--
Dave Probert
KE6JRS



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alex Lane)
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Subject: Re: US Hams want to operate in UK
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Dave Probert ([e-mail]) wrote:
: My oldest wants to operate 2m aboard the aircraft while
: overflying the U.S.  Is my understanding correct that:
:       Operation of radio equipment is not allowed within
:       15 minutes of takeoff and landing under any circumstance?
:       Otherwise operation while airborne only requires the
:       consent of the captain?

My understanding is that equipment that *may* emit spurious radio signals
(laptops, CD and tape players) may not be operated for takeoff and
landing, and that radio transcievers are flat-out prohibited during *all*
phases of flight.

Cheers...
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:16 1996
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From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: US Hams want to operate in UK
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In article <4d1t4q$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Dave Probert" writes:

>         Are most 2m repeaters open like they are here?

Yes

>         Do they operate with PL tones like in the U.S.?

Some support CTCSS, but those that do also have the more conventional
1750 Hz tone access (like yours use to have 1800 Hz back in the 80s)

>         Anybody have a list of repeaters near London and Bristol?

GB3WL  West London (near Heathrow Airport)  In 145.025  Out 145.625
GB3WS  West Sussex (near Gatwick Airport)   In 145.150  Out 145.750
GB3NL  North London                         In 145.175  Out 145.775
GB3EL  East London                          In 145.000  Out 145.600

GB3WR  Wells, Somerset (South of Bristol)   In 145.000  Out 145.600
GB3BC  South Wales (West of Bristol)        In 145.150  Out 145.750

and in-between you'll also find:
GB3RD  Reading, Berkshire                   In 145.075  Out 145.675
GB3WH  near Swindon, Wiltshire              In 145.100  Out 145.700

IMHO you'll have more fun on 70cm repeaters (nicer class of people :-)
Let me know if you want some frequencies for those.

73
Mike
G4KFK


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jack Kovar  KE0AX)
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Subject: Used Cellphones for sale.
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                Will trade cellphones for Ham equipment.
                                        [e-mail]
                                        319-378-9852



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KD1YVJim)
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Subject: Vancouver "Ham" Jamming Police?
Date: 11 Jan 1996 13:08:11 -0500
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If they haven't caught anybody ("unlikely that he will be caught") then
where do they get off saying it was a ham.  I think that newspaper should
be taken to task for spreading falsehoods, but if you did that, there
would be no more "news" media.

Jim
KD1YV


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:18 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
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In <4d22sv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>The FCC 610-V can be obtained from W5YI at P.O.Box 565101, Dallas, TX
>75356-5101, 817-461-6443, [e-mail].  The FCC uses prision
>labor to do their publishing, W5YI received a plate of the new form
>and reproduced his own. He charges $1.00 for the form. 73...
>[e-mail]

prison labor, eh? not the government printing office? (maybe it's the same...)

of course, the guy could pull down the vanity callsign forms from the fcc web
system (www.fcc.gov, dig into the wireless branch until you find the forms
downloading area..) for his time. why should you pay someone for a form the
government will give you for free?

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:19 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
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In answer to the fellow who asked how long FCC "holds" a call....

Under the vanity program, the call must be vacant for a
period of two years to be claimed by someone else.

There are two exceptions:

  1 -- If the call was held by a deceased close relative
of yours, you can claim it (as soon as gate 1 opens). You
must be eligible for the call format.

  2 -- A club can claim the call of a deceased member before
the two year limit.  They need to get the written permission
of relatives of the deceased, and must already have a call
sign.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
-- My homepage is at:
   "http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/k0hb"

-- It's still a hardhat area... under construction


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:20 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:16:43 GMT
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[e-mail] (K1UM) wrote:

>anyone know how long the FCC keeps a callsign around after it has
>expired?  The call I would like expired  Feb, 95.  It would be
>nice if they cancelled it in Feb 96!  Thanks .. Tom

call signs become available two years after expiration. I am the guy
who pushed the vanity call sign system thru Congress when the FCC
refused my petitions. Good luck.
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Rask)
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Subject: Want mods for IC736, IC737(A) and IC738
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Hello and thanks for reading this !! :-) is there anyone outthere who
has any mods for anyone of these three radio┤s ?? could be anyting from
improving RX to how to get expande TX. I would really appriciate any mod
at all for these radio┤s (havent seen any at all passing arround) so is
there anyone who has a mod outthere please send it to me.
Best 73┤s De SM7VHS /Martin hope to hear you on the bands.





From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ZaaX)
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Subject: Re: What CW keyboards are available?
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MFJ makes a few. The MFJ-451 is $99.95. They go up in price from that.

73
Zack Schindler
N8FNR


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean?
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Bradley Granger ([e-mail]) wrote:
: SEEK YOU. SEEK YOU.

  Sorry, but I doubt this.  It only makes sense in spoken English,
and CQ goes back to international morse, and many of the signals
wereto be understood by a person speaking any language.

Gerry K8EF



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In an issue of QST last year sometime (I think it was) they say
the CQ originated from "seek you".  Sounds good to me.  I guess it
developed out of CW shorthand

73s
de KI5XW



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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
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In article <4d6d0b$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Pedro Pedroso" writes:

>         I've been an amateur for 4 years and I've always known
>         that CQ means general call!

I've always believed it to originate from the old (very old) maritime
distress signal CQD (Come Quick, Disaster).

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


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Subject: What does CQ mean???
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L>        I've been an amateur for 4 years and I've always known
L>        that CQ means general call!

CQ - Seek You

---
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cecil A. Moore~)
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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
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In article <4d6d0b$[e-mail]>,
Pedro Pedroso <[e-mail]> wrote:

>       That's what I would like to find out, if anybody knows
>       the true story of our so used CQ please drop me a line.

Could be it comes from the military "Call to Quarters".

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
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Pedro Pedroso ([e-mail]) wrote:

:       I've been an amateur for 4 years and I've always known
:       that CQ means general call!
:       Nevertheless I still wonder if CQ are the inicials for
:       something like Calling Query ...???
<snip>

   CQ was originally used where amateurs now use QST - calling ALL
stations.  I don't know when it became calling ANY station, as
amateurs understand it now.  Coastal stations seem to use it just
to announce their availability, which is very close to the amateur
usage.

   I only guess that you may be right, that it was derived from the
idea of "calling an unknown station".  I don't know why it was picked.
Originally there was a related distree call CQD, which was changed to
the character three dots three dashes three dots, usually but slightly
wrongly called SOS (there aren't any spaces in the distress signal).
   Happy New Year and 73

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:28 1996
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From: "Brian D. Morgan, CPBE" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
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Pedro Pedroso wrote:
>
>         I've been an amateur for 4 years and I've always known
>         that CQ means general call!
>         Nevertheless I still wonder if CQ are the inicials for
>         something like Calling Query ...???
>         That's what I would like to find out, if anybody knows
>         the true story of our so used CQ please drop me a line.
>         One more thing, what about DX, is it just an abreviation
>         for Distance...???
>
>                                         73 + Good DX
>
> --
>
>  | Pedro Pedroso                |                            |
>  | [e-mail]       |  CT1ELP                    |
>  | Eng. Electrotecnica e Comp.  |  Founder member of GPDX    |
>  | (Telecomunicacoes e electronica)                          |
>  -------------------------------------------------------------
When I was getting into ham radio 33 years ago I
asked the question too and got this response.
CQ = "Seek You"    makes sense to me.  73
--

Brian D. Morgan, CPBE
Assistant Chief Engineer
The Center for Educational Television  Southern
Illinois University School of Medicine
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:29 1996
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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
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[e-mail] (Cecil A. Moore~) wrote:
>In article <4d6d0b$[e-mail]>,
>Pedro Pedroso <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>      That's what I would like to find out, if anybody knows
>>      the true story of our so used CQ please drop me a line.
>
>Could be it comes from the military "Call to Quarters".
>
>73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)

     Is started with the merchant marine, "Come Quickly!"
     WB7ASR...




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:30 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 96 14:53:41 GMT
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In article <4d990c$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Gerard Foley" writes:

>    I only guess that you may be right, that it was derived from the
> idea of "calling an unknown station".  I don't know why it was picked.
> Originally there was a related distree call CQD, which was changed to
> the character three dots three dashes three dots, usually but slightly
> wrongly called SOS (there aren't any spaces in the distress signal).

                                         ___
I concur that CQD was current before the SOS prosign was introduced, but
I had always assumed that the former signal was CQ/Distress and that it
was dervied from the pre-exisiting CQ call and not the reverse.  Also
CQ and CQD were always sent as discrete letters and never as a single
prosign.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Boteler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
Date: 13 Jan 1996 23:45:01 -0500
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[e-mail] (Pedro Pedroso) writes:
>       I've been an amateur for 4 years and I've always known
>       that CQ means general call!
>       Nevertheless I still wonder if CQ are the inicials for
>       something like Calling Query ...???

"Seek You".

Say it enough times quickly and it will start to sound
like the letters "C-Q".

--
V.S.F. guru
finger [e-mail] for PGP key to encrypt email to me.


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:32 1996
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From: Philippe Maynard - VE2IBJ <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 07:41:02 -0500
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To: Pedro Pedroso <[e-mail]>

Pedro Pedroso wrote:
>
>         I've been an amateur for 4 years and I've always known
>         that CQ means general call!
>         Nevertheless I still wonder if CQ are the inicials for
>         something like Calling Query ...???
>         That's what I would like to find out, if anybody knows
>         the true story of our so used CQ please drop me a line.
>         One more thing, what about DX, is it just an abreviation
>         for Distance...???

CQ: Seek you... that is the true story.

--
               Nom       Philippe Maynard      Real Name
       Emplacement     Beloeil, Qc, CANADA     Location
  Adresse Internet    [e-mail]    E-Mail Adress
     Radio Amateur           VE2IBJ            Amateur Radio Callsign


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:33 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
Date: 17 Jan 1996 03:57:02 GMT
Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
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In <[e-mail]>, Philippe Maynard - VE2IBJ <hamibj@generatio
n.net> writes:
>Pedro Pedroso wrote:
>>         I've been an amateur for 4 years and I've always known
>>         that CQ means general call!

you got it...nothing more to say...i think the memory aid folks have
problems when things are simple enough to not need something like
an "Eli the Ice Man" or "Power is easy as PIE" approach to stuff.
it just is.  no good reason or clever planning. probably picked for the
"sing-songiness" of the prosign.

>>         One more thing, what about DX, is it just an abreviation
>>         for Distance...???

also the same here. DX - just an abbreviation -- initially radio didn't have
very good range. this was due to a combination of frequency used, transmitter
and receiver design. distance was everything. consequently, it got a short
abbreviation. tx for transmitter and rx for receiver also exist.

>CQ: Seek you... that is the true story.
>               Nom       Philippe Maynard      Real Name

well, maybe. got any source references (like about 75-90 years old) to
substantiate it?

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Pedro Pedroso)
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Subject: What does CQ mean???
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        I've been an amateur for 4 years and I've always known
        that CQ means general call!
        Nevertheless I still wonder if CQ are the inicials for
        something like Calling Query ...???
        That's what I would like to find out, if anybody knows
        the true story of our so used CQ please drop me a line.
        One more thing, what about DX, is it just an abreviation
        for Distance...???

                                        73 + Good DX


--


 | Pedro Pedroso                |                            |
 | [e-mail]       |  CT1ELP                    |
 | Eng. Electrotecnica e Comp.  |  Founder member of GPDX    |
 | (Telecomunicacoes e electronica)                          |
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From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:35 1996
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From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this newsgroup--and Prodigy and AOL
Date: 16 Jan 1996 17:17:52 GMT
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>When you have outfits like Prodigy and AOL spamming mailboxes across the
>USA, not to mention including diskettes or CD-ROMs with magazines, offering
>Internet access to anyone and everyone, what can you expect?

>Jim - KF6CR


    I dumped Prodigy because I got sick and tired of them using up all
of my connect time to place advertising, that I did not care to see, on
each page. I had a hard time getting rid of them too. I got charged for
two months after I cancelled. I got a nasty phone call from their
collection department threatening me with disconnection if I did not
pay up. I told them that is what I wanted in the first place and now they
don't bother with me.

    I have been basically happy with Compuserve. I have been using them
since almost their beginning, but I wonder what it will take to make them
fix Wincim 2.0.1. Too many bugs and too slow!!

   I have never used America Online. How are they, by the way?

73 de WA3RVT, Steve



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:37 1996
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Subject: Re: What's with this newsgroup--and Prodigy and AOL
Date: 17 Jan 1996 00:27:35 GMT
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In <4dgmk0$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> wr
ites:
>
>>When you have outfits like Prodigy and AOL spamming mailboxes across the
>>USA, not to mention including diskettes or CD-ROMs with magazines, offering
>>Internet access to anyone and everyone, what can you expect?
>
>>Jim - KF6CR
>
>
>    I dumped Prodigy because I got sick and tired of them using up all
>of my connect time to place advertising, that I did not care to see, on
>each page. I had a hard time getting rid of them too. I got charged for
>two months after I cancelled. I got a nasty phone call from their
>collection department threatening me with disconnection if I did not
>pay up. I told them that is what I wanted in the first place and now they
>don't bother with me.
>
>    I have been basically happy with Compuserve. I have been using them
>since almost their beginning, but I wonder what it will take to make them
>fix Wincim 2.0.1. Too many bugs and too slow!!
>
>   I have never used America Online. How are they, by the way?
>
>73 de WA3RVT, Steve
>
My own experience with AOL has been pretty dismal.  I've joined it 3 times
over the years, once when it first started and twice since.  Each time I
dumped it at the end of the trial period.  The first time was because they
really didn't have much of anything in terms of files and other info.  The
other two times were both because I had trouble logging on.  In both cases
they'd just spammed the world with diskettes and had more new members
than their system could handle, and people could not get connected to the
system after their local number answered.  I didn't see the point in paying
to join a service I couldn't connect to.  The fact that AOL did not have
(and still doesn't have) a node faster than 2400 baud in my city was also
a contributing factor.  I've talked to a number of other folks in different
places who had the same connect-time woes with them that I've had who
also dumped them for the same reason.

73 - Alan NS0B


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:38 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
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Subject: Re: What's with this newsgroup--and Prodigy and AOL
Date: 17 Jan 1996 04:00:23 GMT
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In <4dgmk0$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> wr
ites:
>    I have been basically happy with Compuserve. I have been using them
>since almost their beginning, but I wonder what it will take to make them
>fix Wincim 2.0.1. Too many bugs and too slow!!
>73 de WA3RVT, Steve

well, since CIS will be going 100% HMI only in the near future, you'll have to
 get
used to CIM (assuming that they don't do something to screw up the "competitio
n"
that would also supply access software to CIS...).

of course, the os/2 version I have seems to be OK so far...but i tend to use t
apcis
for forum mongering...for BBS type of stuff, GEnie is still the best for that
in terms
of organization (amazingly similar to a newsgroup in a very general sort of wa
y.)

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Yaesu G-800SDX computer control.
Date: 13 Jan 1996 23:11:16 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Ron Long <[e-mail]> wrote:
)In article <4d019l$[e-mail]>, "Jordi C."
)<[e-mail]> wrote:
)
)> Hi
)> I would like to control my Yaesu G-800SDX rotor via my PC without buying
)> an expensive control card.Do you know how ?
)> Thanks in advance for all information.
)>
)> Jordi CarnΘ
)> [e-mail]
)
)Check the following Web site. There is an article there.
)http://www.teleport.com/~n7ryw/asatpage.html
)
)I think you can also access the information as an ftp
)  ftp.teleport.com etc.

The article mentioned covers a Satellite antenna/radio tracker. It's $370,
which is in the ballpark of the Yaesu interface. It works with the Yaesu
5400, but has a less sophisticated interface for other rotors.

--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:40 1996
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From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Yaesu Home Page
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 18:58:07 -0500
Organization: Monumental Network Systems
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Based on a request I put on this newsgroup for info regarding Yaesu
FT11-R information, I have received quite a few email requests for
Yaesu's homepage. The homepage for Yaesu is http://www.yaesu.com
--
Tom Schaefer
Orange, Virginia                [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Gollom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: You Know You're a Ham When ...
Date: 11 Jan 1996 05:35:44 GMT
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With all the arguements and back-stabbing going on in this newsgroup
I thought I'd try to inject a little humour.

You know you're a ham when...

you find yourself mentally undressing your rig.

you'd rather turn on your rig instead of your wife.

your definition of high fashion is a baseball cap with your call letters
on it.

your shack actually begins to look like one.

at a party, after you've told a joke, you say "hi hi".

you're happy to be considered just another bean for the pot.

your idea of sightseeing is checking rooftops for antennas.

you check for your packet messages before you check your answering machine.

you think carrying an HT is more of a status symbol than a portable
cellular phone.

you have the need to explain to someone that being a ham is not the same
as being a CBer.


And remember, keep a joke in your heart and a hand in your pants and you'll
always have a smile on your face.

73 one and all.

Alan   VE3XAG


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: You Know You're a Ham When ...
Date: 13 Jan 1996 07:01:03 -0500
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Thank you Alan for reminding us once again: ".....its only a hobby!"


73,

Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1 (also VE2XZ)
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:43 1996
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From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: You know you're a ham... (additions)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 96 13:26:28 GMT
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You know you're a ham when...

* Your pet parrot's first words are "CQ CONTEST!"
  (Happened to G8ZBL in 1981)

* You tell your mates you have a new girlfriend, and they ask
  "What's her callsign?"
  (Happened to me in 1983)

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


From [e-mail] Wed Jan 17 14:45:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] [AA8FQ]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: YOUR FAVORITE SITES PLEASE
Date: 12 Jan 1996 16:32:19 GMT
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Please e-mail your favorite Ham Radio Web Sites to:

[e-mail] so that we may connect through our growing Web Site at

 http://www.solder-it.com

73,

Fred, AA8FQ


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BucherJ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AD: 1000's of mods for scanners/ham radios
Date: 16 Jan 1996 10:27:46 -0500
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  I have accumulated thousands of mods many which are hard to find.  Send
me a listing of the unit you have and I will send a description of the
mods I have for that radio.  If I have something you want I will send you
the information for $5 per radio.


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:33 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Alert: FCC Wants to TAX the Internet
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:43:32 GMT
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FCC listen to us. The internet  isn't broken so don't try to fix it.
If you want to kill something, TAX it.

I quote from the W5YI Report of January 15, 1996: "Be prepared for an
internet "Access Tax." The FCC is said to be very concerned that users
can bypass long distance companies to make calls through the use of
internet telephone schemes. The FCC believes that at some point they
will have to address the economic impact of Internet technology on the
nation's telephone companies. Being considered is a flat tax fee
levied on the number of users served by Internet Service Providers.
Another suggestion has ISPs paying a fee based on the amount of
Internet traffic passing through their systems. ISPs would pass along
the extra cost to their customers."

We already pay tax on our phone bill, then another tax on the Internet
service here in Texas. Will we permit this to happen? Write your
Congressmen.
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:34 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Alert: FCC Wants to TAX the Internet
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:56:56 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates
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NNTP-Posting-Host: tpm0-80.ballistic.com
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X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

FCC listen to us. The internet  isn't broken so don't try to fix it.
If you want to kill something, TAX it.

I quote from the W5YI Report of January 15, 1996: "Be prepared for an
internet "Access Tax." The FCC is said to be very concerned that users
can bypass long distance companies to make calls through the use of
internet telephone schemes. The FCC believes that at some point they
will have to address the economic impact of Internet technology on the
nation's telephone companies. Being considered is a flat tax fee
levied on the number of users served by Internet Service Providers.
Another suggestion has ISPs paying a fee based on the amount of
Internet traffic passing through their systems. ISPs would pass along
the extra cost to their customers."

We already pay tax on our phone bill, then another tax on the Internet
service here in Texas. Will we permit this to happen? Write your
Congressmen.
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Alert: FCC Wants to TAX the Internet
Date: 20 Jan 1996 22:25:20 -0500
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Erik K.Sorgatz ([e-mail]) wrote:
<snip>

: The governemnt is so entreanched, and so rife
: with nepotism - it's a career path filled with cousins, uncles, aunts, in-
: laws and favored-offspring.

    Erik Sorgatz' local government may be as he describes it, but the
US ( federal )
government is not.  Only tiny fraction of federal employees are appointed.
The others get their jobs through a civil service system that has been
remarkably free of corruption.

     Another poster has said that the FCC has no taxing power.  In a
sense that is probably correct, but the FCC has jurisdiction over all
interstate and international communications from and to the U.S., and
regulates rates.  There may alsready be statutory authority for the
kind of FCC fee regulation with respect to the Internet that is being
discussed here.  You will have to be an attorney specializing in
communications law to have a useful opinion on this

Gerry K8EF



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:36 1996
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Subject: ARLB004 FCC shrinks backlog
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Date: 17 Jan 1996 16:36:42 -0500
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB004
ARLB004 FCC shrinks backlog

ZCZC AG83
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 4  ARLB004
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 17, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB004
ARLB004 FCC shrinks backlog

The Federal Communications Commission reports it is making good
progress on processing a backlog of more than 2800 ham radio license
applications filed electronically, including almost 2000 from ARRL.
The commission was back on the job again January 16, in the wake of
a month-long shutdown begun by the budget impasse and extended by
bad weather and a Federal holiday after the commission first
reopened for a day January 11.

A spokesman said the FCC expects to be up to date with
electronically filed applications for new and updated licenses by
Thursday, January 18.  The furlough and the snow days have delayed
implementation of the vanity call sign program, however.

New and upgraded license information is available from ARRL by
calling 860-594-0300.  Applicants also can check the University of
Arkansas at Little Rock FCC database at
http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign/html
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:37 1996
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From: jessica <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: baycom info wanted
Date: 18 Jan 1996 19:01:46 GMT
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i looking for a good place to find baycom info here  on the wed.
and any orther ham software.. like rtty,cw pactor.amtor...ect.
de n9fdf...



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:37 1996
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From: jessica <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: baycom info wanted
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i looking for a good place to find baycom info here  on the wed.
and any orther ham software.. like rtty,cw pactor.amtor...ect.
de n9fdf...



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: baycom info wanted
Date: 22 Jan 1996 07:51:10 GMT
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In article <4dm5fl$[e-mail]>, jessica  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>i looking for a good place to find baycom info here  on the wed.
>and any orther ham software.. like rtty,cw pactor.amtor...ect.
>de n9fdf...

You find Baycom where you would expect it: http://www.baycom.de
I checked it a minute ago. As to ham software in general,
it depends on your location, which server is most convenient.

73, Moritz DL5UH




From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:39 1996
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From: jessica <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: baycom packet users
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name is toby here looking for any baycom users ,,would like to
know where i can find some good ham software here on the www.
like cw ,rtty,pactor,,,,de n9fdf




From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:40 1996
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From: jessica <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: baycom packet users
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name is toby here looking for any baycom users ,,would like to
know where i can find some good ham software here on the www.
like cw ,rtty,pactor,,,,de n9fdf




From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Codys PC)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB jargon Needed
Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:57:40 -0500
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Check out rec.radio.cb!

They will be CHOCK FULL of advice they can give you.

Good luck! 73's! 88's if you got 'em!

We're QRT. And 10-7!

[Ahemn...]
;-)!


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:42 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Communications Procedures // CQ on VHF
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Swamp-Castle Press, Boston
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Gary's usually right, but I'm going to stick my neck out on one
minor point.

Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
> believe many people only object to its use on repeaters, where it is
                                     ^^^ CQ long call
> redundant. Simply keying up and speaking your call sign is sufficient
> to alert all others monitoring the repeater to your presence and your
> willingness to talk. Anything more is excess, unnecessary, and a mark
> of poor operating procedure on a limited resource.

For a call into a machine with a QSO going on or otherwise expected to be
hoping with activity at that time, exactly.

For a directed net, follow instructions to avoid doubling.

For other situations where "limited resource" may not be as applicable
as at peak time, other procedures might apply.

In an urban environment with multiple repeaters at off-peak hours,
  where getting a call-back on any particular machine is chancy,
  where some of us use either an auxiliary scanner or the scan-modes of a
    appliance transceiver to monitor several machines simultaneously,
it can be useful to say
   "WA1BCD monitoring on .23"
    if no-one answered your first call,
    or even on the first call if it's a really slow time.

I've heard "WA1BCD monitoring" on the scanner and by the time I could
get a hand from the steering wheel to the scanner [light] button it was
gone, so I couldn't get back to him -- I didn't know which machine he'd
keyed up, so I didn't know where to QSY the 2m rig to.
  (I may open up the delay AND rig the light to be on whenever the
scanner is on external power, but it'd still be safer driving if I
didn't have to look -- I can usually QSY by touch.)

The other thing that helps both with a linked network of repeaters and
with scan-mode is pausing or saying "this is" between key-up and the
callsign; it may take a half second for all the links to come up or for
my scanner to wrap around to your frequency.  This is bad form during
peak usage periods, of course, when it IS a scarce resource.  Off peak
in this vicinity, vacant 2m repeaters are hardly scarce.  (Lots of
folks monitoring who'll answer their friends, and lots of
"<callsign> monitoring"  but not many QSOs.)


[NOTE: I've clipped the newsgroups to just r.r.a.m/r.r.a.p, since it's
NOT CB or scanner related. Not sure it's really policy related either,
unless the fellow suggesting teaching manners to us uncouth code-free
VHF+ vermin was suggesting the FCC should do it. From the sound of the 2m
rptrs up here in 1-land, there's no correlation between good/bad operators
and callsign class.  I've even heard good 2m operations from 2x1's.  :-)]

73
--
Bill Ricker  N1VUX  [e-mail]  "The freedom of the press belongs
http://world.std.com/~wdr               to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul R. Ryack)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Dentron GLA1000 power wsitch
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 04:57:12 GMT
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I'm looking for a the power switch section of the function switch on
the Dentron GLA1000.  It's a high current SPST that is the last gang
on the rotary function switch.  If you have one, or a suggestion on
where I could pick one up, I'd appreciate it.  TNX & 73, Paul, W1ETH
Paul R. Ryack, W1ETH/6
[e-mail]
W1ETH@K6TZ.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:44 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
Subject: Re: Electonic flash unit problem
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 16:16:17 GMT
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Its possible the tube is bad - However are you sure the trigger is
operating - the you might see if you can draw an arc from the trigger
transformer (4kV) if you trigger the flash.

Replacement tubes are usually available - but not cheap. In the US
Mouser Electronics sells them...

Also you might want to list on the rec.photo.misc ----- or other photo
groups
Noland
[e-mail] (DCG Mktg Docmnt (Ivrea)) wrote:


>
>
>I have an electronic flash unit purchased in 1970. After being unused for
>many years, I find that now it does not function correctly. The lamp is
>powered by 250 Vcc and the flash is triggered by a pulse. I have
>checked the capacitor, which is in good condition. Has the lamp failed
>through again?? Does anybody have the answer?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:46 1996
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From: Ray Wilson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Eliminating auto spark ignition nosie
Date: 21 Jan 1996 11:39:30 GMT
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[e-mail] (WB7ASR) wrote:
>
> Im having a background spark ignition nosie problem that is
> interfering with weak signal reception on 2 meters. I have
> insured everything is chassis grounded properly, radio, antenna,
> and neg side of DC power cables. My radio DC power is fed direct
> from the battery terminals, and I have wrapped the DC power
> cable in aluminum foil. I have also added iron toriod cores to
> the spark plug wires, both at the distributor and plug ends.
> I have changed the distributor cap, rotor, and plugs, and the
> plug wires all appear to be in good visual physical shape
> (not dry rotted or cracked).
>
> What else can I try, short of running the vehical off a cliff?
>
> WB7ASR...
>


I'm in the same boat....   Thinking about buying a diesel ;)

73 and good luck.

Ray, N3RKH


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:47 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Joel B Levin)
Subject: Re: Excessive heade: ARLB004 FCC shrinks backlog
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Exessive header _and_ .signature:
In <4dpdpe$[e-mail]>,
   Burt Fisher <Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>> wrote:

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|[e-mail] wrote:

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| /     \         /   \       .-.     _     .-.       /   \         /     \
|/--Burt Fisher
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With the usual complaint he makes at least once a month.

|The F.C.C. said the following:

The FCC has nothing to do with headers in bulletins.

And the rest of this rant seems to have nothing to do with headers in ARRL
bulletins.

Since you seem to complain about the bulletin headers on a regular basis,
next time, you may take it as read that I will have responded similarly, so
I won't be actually doing it.
        /KD1ON


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (George L. Hiscox)
Subject: Re: Finding power line noise source
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[e-mail] (WB7ASR) wrote:

>Im trying to track down an S-9 AC power line noise source Im having
>on 40 meters. I pulled my home main AC breaker while my HF xcvr was on
>battery, so I have eliminated the possibily that the noise is coming from
>somewhere within my own house.

>The noise is only there at night, so I suppect it must be some
>security light that comes on in my neighborhood via a photo switch,
>because right after sun up, the noise goes away.

>Anyway, I have found several "hot" noise spots the next block over,
>however I can't pin-point the exact direction where the noise is coming
>from. The two meter yagi is not directional on 40 meters no matter which
>way I point it, for I might as well be using a vertical. What other type
>of directonal antenna can I use to pin-point the location of the noise
>source?

Instead of trying to DF the noise on 40 meters you might get yourself
a VHF AM (aircraft?) handheld/scanner and use your VHF yagi to track
down the noise.  It's important to use an AM receiver or one of those
multi-mode units.  FM just doesn't work for this job.  Using that
technique you can easily point to the source.

73 and good luck!

George





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From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Arthur Burke)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Finding power line noise source
Date: 22 Jan 1996 16:07:54 GMT
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Sometimes you can get lucky just using a portable AM/FM radio, preferably
tuned on the AM band. Try tuning to a frequency not used by a local
station and look for nulls off the end of the built-in loopstick antenna.
While it isn't as accurate as a VHF rig with Yagi, it's a lot more
convenient and can often "get you in the neighborhood."

Art Burke
Lenexa, KS
NE4F



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FS: BC2500XLT
Date: 17 Jan 1996 15:52:34 GMT
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>
>I have a BC2500XLT in Excelent condition.  It has never been used
outside the house.  All known MODs have been applied.
>
>All original packing materials and box are present along with
accessories:
>Antenna, Charger, Leather Carrying case, Belt Clip, Operating guide and
Registration form.
>
>
>The features include:
>100 channel/second Turbo Scan
>VFO Control
>Direct Keypad entry
>400 channels
>20 banks
>25MHz - 1.3GHz
>10 Priority channels
>Auto Scan for Weather channels
>Auto Store while scanning
>Auto Sort
>Retains programming with battery removed.
>
>
>Asking $300.00 I'll pay shipping.
>
>-| Jason Gottschalk    [e-mail]
>-| SYO Computer Engineering
>-| OS/2 Warp - Computing circles around Windows95


Cellular capable?

-Drew in Charlotte-



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:51 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GB7FBH TCP/IP BBS < > AX25 Gateway. - shack1.gif (0/7)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 96 12:49:54 GMT
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In article <4d9g4v$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "ECAT 3" writes:

> This is the home of GB7FBH TCP/IP BBS and Ax25 Gateway in Sussex.

Yuck!

I'm sure glad I killfile everything over 299 lines.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:52 1996
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From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:53 1996
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Subject: Ham Radio Science Project
Organization: Sage Publications, Inc.
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 18:08:58 GMT
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Dear Fellow Hams,
        I am a thirteen year old General class ham. I am performing a science experim
ent to study the
effects of changes in the ionosphere on radio waves. To perform this experimen
t I need four volunteers, one
one-hundred miles away or less, one five hundred miles, one one-thousand miles
, and one two-thousand
miles away. (Further away would also be fun!) I live in Thousand Oaks, CA, whi
ch is about 50 miles
north-west of Los Angeles.
        I plan to contact four hams at different distances from my station, at differ
ent times of the day and
record the RSTs in order to see the effects the ionosphere has on the radio wa
ves. I'd like to do these QSOs
during February.
        If you would like to volunteer for some QSOs with me, or have any suggestions
, you can reach me
here or e-mail me at [e-mail].
                                73,
                                Doug McCune, KE6WXM



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:54 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: HELP: WHICH PREFIX / SUFFIX?
Date: 19 Jan 1996 00:03:32 GMT
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Hi there!
I am staying in the US for a couple of months and so I applied for the guestli
cense.
No Problem to get it, but the FCC didn't tell me which Prefix or Suffix I need
 to use
in addition to my own call sign.
Is anybody out there, who can give me a hint?
By the way, I am operating from Wheeling, Illinois.
Thanks
Wolfgang
DL3ECA
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Link Communications)
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Subject: IDs
Date: 18 Jan 1996 00:36:44 GMT
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To: [e-mail]

[e-mail]

> In reference to our phone conversation on Monday about what
> I believe seems to be a problem with the rotating ID's, I
> have today investigated further.

> 7. Then for the next half hour the only automatic rotating
> ID's that are sent are shortly (a few minutes) after
> the carrier had dropped. The repeater does not send ID
> by itself if there is no traffic. (And that can go on
> for hours. I tested that yesterday evening.)

> What's the problem? To my understanding we were talking
> about continous ID's whether there is traffic or not.

There is no problem.  This is exactly how it is (and always was)
supposed to be.  It may have worked differently for you in the
past, but we can't figure out why.  There are several things you
can do to make it ID regardless of activity:
- use a scheduler to send the IDs.  Four hourly events set to go off
  at the top, 15 minutes after, half past and 15 till the hour would
  do it.
- use a user timer to send a message and start the timer again.
- use an output line to pull the cor line low occasionally, to make the
  controller think that someone is keying it up.

> Regards

> RAINER

Steve
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:56 1996
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From: Rahul Patel <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Is there a Mod for TR7850 Kenwood 2m radio?
Date: 16 Jan 1996 00:52:41 GMT
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Does anyone know of any Mods for my 9 year oold Kenwood TR7850 2m radio?  I wo
od greatly
appreciate it if you can send me an e-mail.  Thanking you in advance.

73,

Rahul - N4RWZ



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Anderson)
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JG>I don't know what is going on. I almost feel sorry for him. But, I do
JG>think he said it best a few months ago, "That he had out lived ham
JG>radio." and I am not so sure that I havent also.

JG>Jim, WA7NDD

Well, Jim, you could use my approach, although I didn't plan it this
way. Licensed in the 60's, I was an avid operator through my teens.
Went away to college and dropped radio for years. A friend got me
back into it in the 70's and once again I was very active. Hit some
killer sunspot cycles and worked a lot of DX on dipoles. Then I lost
interest again. At 47 I thought 'hey! I should get back into ham radio!'
Bought an Icom 2000H mobile and a Yaesu FT-11R ht and do a lot of
listening and a little operating now. The advantage to this approach
is you can dump all the old technology radios and start over with
state of the art rigs every ten years, and you tend to be more forgiving
of the hobby. VY 73, de WA8JDW - Mike


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From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:00:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KPIG Radio will be on the air January 21st
Date: 18 Jan 1996 18:02:24 GMT
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>Amateur Radio Expose:
>
>o  Learn why Ham Radio has outlived its useful purpose and is now
taking
>   valuable spectrum away from the public in order to allow drunk radio
>   amateurs the ability to use their overpriced CBs to chat with
themselves.

I guess he's been listening to 75-meters in between his pirate
broadcasts! <g>

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail]
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*********************************************************************
*  The San Francisco Bay Area's most powerful pirate radio station  *
*                                                                   *
*                 K P I G  --  88.9 on your FM dial                 *
*                                                                   *
*                         p r e s e n t s                           *
*                                                                   *
*                      An evening of exposes                        *
*********************************************************************

This month's broadcast will begin at 10:00 PM this Sunday, January
21st.  Highlights include:

Scientology Expose:

o  Hear all about the "secret" documents the Church of Scientology is
   trying to keep secret
o  Learn what L. Ron Hubbard said about Scientology just before he died.

PETA Expose:

o  Hear PETA members torture innocent animals while making a propoganda
   film.

Amateur Radio Expose:

o  Learn why Ham Radio has outlived its useful purpose and is now taking
   valuable spectrum away from the public in order to allow drunk radio
   amateurs the ability to use their overpriced CBs to chat with themselves.

With over 300 watts ERP, we are the most powerful pirate radio station
in the San Francisco Bay Area.  We have as much or more power than many
smaller commercial stations in this area.  It should be possible to
hear us all along the Penninsula and well into the South Bay.  We
welcome reception reports and other listener feedback on the KPIG
Squeal Line.  The phone number will be announced several times during
the broadcast.

Note to potential DF-ers.  Our use of special ECM equipment will defeat
all known DF-ing techniques and will render it impossible for anyone to
locate the source of our signal.  Save yourself some time and frustration
and stay at home.


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:00 1996
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From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KPIG Radio will be on the air January 21st
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 96 14:29:29 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail]  writes:

> With over 300 watts ERP, we are the most powerful pirate radio station

Pirate Radio Expose:

Learn why pirate radio has outlived its useful purpose, and is now
taking valuable spectrum away from the public in order to allow drunk
and inept Disk Jockeys the ability to use spectrally-dubious transmitters
to pollute the airwaves with a load of nonsense that nobody wants to
listen to anyway.

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics,sci.electronics.misc,alt.cellular-phone-tech,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Digital PLL/Receiver chips!
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 06:01:51 GMT
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>In addition you should also try Plessey Electronics in the UK (Swindon) who d
o
>a range of PLL devices for receivers and transmitters. Also part of their ran
ge
>are full synthesizers, VOGAD's IF amplifiers, Pre-scaler dividers atc.
[snip in consideration of bandwidth]

I'll be glad to discuss the use of Plessey on a one-on-one basis with
anybody who wants to find out just how they treat their customers.  I
won't write it down for libel reasons.

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | "We seem to be standing on
RST Engineering          |  the foreskin of technology."
Grass Valley CA 95945    | (Gen. Chuck Yeager)
voice/fax [phone]   |
[e-mail]  AR Adv WB6BHI  CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:02 1996
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From: [e-mail](Jim Sheffield)
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Subject: Opinions re. Ramsey SX-20
Date: 21 Jan 1996 16:56:57 GMT
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Hello out there:

Being a ham, I know we hams have plenty of
opinions, so please give me yours on the Ramsey
SX-20 20M SSB/CW HF Transceiver.  Anyone built
and/or operated one?  I am particularly interested
in the CW performance.  Thanks and 73,

Jim, KB7ET
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:03 1996
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From: Andrew Austin <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Program Plug for MAXON SL70
Date: 16 Jan 1996 16:50:15 GMT
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Can any one help - I require the circuit diagram for the
program plug that is supplied with the SMP4001 program
software to enable setup of a UHF SL70 handheld



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:04 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
Date: 18 Jan 1996 03:39:31 GMT
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so i'm reading through the feb issue of QST tonight and come across a letter
by steve licht, wf2s, calling for a strange new QSL etiquette.

one where anyone who contacts a station and then sends a reception report
to that station (usually marked with a PSE QSL, 73 or so) is also expected to
pay for the return mailing of the other guys card (as an SASE for a postcard n
o
less.)

Am I the only one that thinks Mr Licht is just a tiny bit nuts? Here he is, a
domestic
US station, working a special event (the HPM 126 affair), and he expects other
US stations to pay to get his card after they sent theirs to him? wf2s, a US s
tation
in the country with the lowest postal rates in the world and probably the
cheapest QSL card sources in the world (anything from process 4 color to badly
printed on an old dot matrix will do), working a popular event, and now wantin
g
to welch on his part of the QSL duties.

steven, ol' buddy, ol' pal...the folks that sent you the cards already did you
 the
honor of paying to get their cards to you. you should return the favor.

(and next time be doubly clear that you're one of those pretend hams
that doesn't QSL even a received QSL).

I've always tried to QSL 100%...especially to domestic stations. i guess if yo
u
have one of those funky 2x1 calls, you can con people into thinking you're rea
lly
DX that needs the green stamps to survive.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RTTY "Reflector"??
Date: 16 Jan 1996 08:49:00 GMT
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Hi all. So we have contest, ct, DX, topband, VHF and others Reflectors.
Does anyone know if there is one for RTTY and, if so, what the address
is?

Thanks,

Peter, G4BVH

e-mail: [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeremy Boot)
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Subject: SWL new pages project
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 22:49:26 GMT
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Many readers from this group have already visited the radio amateur
pages below:

        http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/

and left about 250 messages for me since December '95. Thanks. I have
replied to all of them individually.

I'm thinking about making a new page for SWLs, who don't seem to be
catered for quite so well elsewhere, but I should like some feedback
before doing so: should there be FAQs? links? Should there be pointers
to schedules etc etc. Should the style be same or different from the
other pages?

If you have some ideas for SWLs, please e-mail me from the pages.

I am still collecting links for the "Friends on the net" for other
amateurs with home pages they would like networked.

73 de



Jeremy G4NJH
[e-mail]
[Homepage: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ]



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:07 1996
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From: mvogel@134.96.68.11 (Manfred Vogelgesang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Thanks - TV disturbs radio
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 15:59:04 GMT
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Hi,

I'd like to thank all of you for your help as to my problem that TV
sets disturb shortwave reception.

If someone still wants to express his/her own ideas concerning this
issue, he/she may still do it.

Manfred



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Schoeggl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: TM-331A. 220Mhz
Date: 22 Jan 1996 17:06:52 GMT
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In article <4dv23e$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I have a TM331a for 220 Mhz, the "dial" light has given
>up the ghost.  The operator's manual doesn't tell me how
>to change it.  Anyone have that information ?
>
>   jd
>

I replaced one of these just the other day. The bulb is soldered to the
display board.  To get to it you have to remove the front of the radio.
Remove both top and bottom covers.  You should see 4 screws which attach
the front pannel assy to the frame. Remove these screws.  Next remove
the knobs and uncscrew the retaining nuts from the mic connector and
tuning knob.  The face should come off now and you can see the 2 bulbs
on each end.  I desoldered mine, but after thinking about I think the
best thing to do is to just cut the old bulb out and solder the new one
on.  The bulbs cost about $3 each and are available from the Pacific
Cost Parts at 800-262-1312 (I think they have an east cost outlet too).
They'll ding you $6.50 for S&H.

Good luck

Jim N7EWD

--
The opinions expressed in this message are my own personal views
and do not reflect the official views of Microsoft Corporation.



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Arthur Burke)
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Subject: TV disturbs radio
Date: 22 Jan 1996 16:05:34 GMT
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There are several possible reasons for TVs to interfere with shortwave
receivers:
        (a) 15734 Hz mis-shapened squarish waves (created by the
            horizontal deflection system) These can also create
            "birdies" every 15734 Hz!

        (b) 3.58 MHz color oscillator

        (c) harmonics of either of the above depending on proximity
            of the television.

        (d) "leaky" cable systems.

Art Burke
Lenexa, KS
NE4F



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:10 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:54:05 GMT
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[e-mail] (K1UM) wrote:

>anyone know how long the FCC keeps a callsign around after it has
>expired?  The call I would like expired  Feb, 95.  It would be
>nice if they cancelled it in Feb 96!  Thanks .. Tom

Tom,
The FCC posts calls to the availability list after 2 years. I obtained
my 610-v from W5YI who sells them for $1.00. His cost of repo is $.50
plus postage $.32 = $.82......thus he sells for $1.00. I purchased in
bulk so I too sell them for $1.00. The FCC uses prison labor and
todate has not released the form.
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:10 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: 15 Jan 1996 15:31:13 GMT
Organization: MicroBurst
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References: <4d22sv$[e-mail]>

>The FCC 610-V can be obtained from W5YI at P.O.Box 565101,
>Dallas, TX 75356-5101, 817-461-6443, [e-mail].
>The FCC uses prision labor to do their publishing, W5YI
>received a plate of the new form
>and reproduced his own. He charges $1.00 for the form.

FCC 610V forms are available free from ARRL (save your dollar).
Send an SASE to:

  ARRL
  610V
  225 Main Street
  Newington, CT 06111

--
-- My homepage is at:
   "http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/k0hb"

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From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bradley Granger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What does CQ mean?
Date: 14 Jan 1996 23:02:49 +1100
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SEEK YOU. SEEK YOU.


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:26:37 GMT
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean?
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In article <4dmmao$[e-mail]>, Terry Burge ([e-mail]
k.com) writes:
>Sounds better than saying...
>
>       'Is anyone there'...
>       'Hello, hello, hello'...
>       'Calling the [world]'... you substitute Peoria, N.Dakota, Oz, etc.
>       'Want to talk with you, over'...
>
>(smiley)
>
>Terry
>KI7M
>
>

It's original use was on board ship.  It is the general call to quarters for
radio operators.  Quarters being the radio console in the old days, there
was always a bed and bath in the radio mans office.  Since most don't bother
to learn code anymore, you need to know what it sounds like to have it make
any sense.  It's use in ham radio because there was no standard at the time.
Since most hams at the time where ship board radio people, they simply used
what that had always used.  Over the years it was adopted by hams due to the
way it sounds, and not based on it's meaning.




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From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 16:17:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bradley Granger) wrote:

>SEEK YOU. SEEK YOU.

| 4Q2 |






From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:14 1996
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From: John Wilcox/NS1Z <[e-mail]>
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Subject: WINPAC5?
Date: 21 Jan 1996 17:33:35 GMT
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Has anyone seen the latest WINPAK for packet operation in Windows. A URL
would be great if some one could give it to me. Thanks!

--
John Wilcox / NS1Z
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          [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:15 1996
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From: Chester Mccarter <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment
Subject: Yaesu FIF-232c information and/or help
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 02:54:34 -0800
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I have a Yeasu FT747GX and am trying to find a diagram of the FIF-232c
CAT cable. I'm sure that there is someone out there that has built a
similiar type cable. Please reply via e-mail also.


--
Chester Mccarter, CNE
[Team OS/2]
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Jan 22 20:01:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Emarit Ranu)
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Subject: Re: Yaesu FIF-232c information and/or help
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Chester Mccarter ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I have a Yeasu FT747GX and am trying to find a diagram of the FIF-232c
: CAT cable. I'm sure that there is someone out there that has built a
: similiar type cable. Please reply via e-mail also.


        Try February QST, 1993 page 37.  Less than $10 to make and works
        damn well.

: --
: Chester Mccarter, CNE
: [Team OS/2]
: [e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:27 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: "This Week in Amateur Radio" Returns 1/27/96
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     "This Week in Amateur Radio" returns to satellite air this
Saturday, January 27th, at 8:00 PM (EST).  The weekly on-the-air
bulletin service will be carried by the "Tech Talk Network" on
Telesat Canada Anik E2 commercial communications satellite.
     The network will utilize transponder 18, (9B vertical), at 5.8
MHz wideband analog audio (4.06 GHz).  Anik E2 is located at 107.3
degrees west longitude in equatorial geosynchronous orbit and
provides excellent coverage of North America with spot beams aimed
at Alaska and Hawaii.  The bird is expected to provide a permanent
home for "This Week in Amateur Radio" into the 21st century.
     The service carries ARRL and RAC bulletins, contest and
convention information, propagation forecast summaries, RAIN, the
Radio Amateur Information Network, the Amateur Radio Newsline, and
other features in audio newsmagazine format on over 100 nets and
repeaters throughout North America.  It had been off of satellite
air since Thanksgiving weekend.
     You can also hear "This Week in Amateur Radio" four nights a
week on the "Gateway 160 Meter Net" via WA0RCR in Wentzville,
Missouri, on 1860 kHz, and in the Greater Capital District of New
York Saturdays and Mondays at 8:00 PM on WA2OQE/R on 145.33 MHz.
     "This Week in Amateur Radio" is produced by Community Video
Associates, Inc., a New York State not-for-profit corporation based
in Albany, NY.  Production and transmission expenses are
underwritten by donations from repeater operators, amateur radio
clubs, and individuals.  Satellite space and uplink services are
provided by Skyvision, Incorporated as a service to amateur radio.
     Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at
518/283-3665 (e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB,
at 518/664-6809 (e-mail sanderman@ delphi.com).  You may also reach
them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.
     Affiliates are asked to please acknowledge receipt of this
bulletin.
-
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ARRL Eastern New York Section Bulletin Manager
P O Box 8592
Academy Station
Albany, NY  12208-0592
518/664-6809
-
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:28 1996
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From: Peter Lemken <[e-mail]>
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Burt Fisher, the supreme master of humor, wrote,

> Peter Lemken <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >No, no, no, Al, they are watts! You probably are not a member of the
> >CDRCC (Californian Death Row Contest Club). Every time there is a
> >candidate for frying, they arrange a meeting in their club home and bring
> >their Californian Kilowatt-Amps along. They have a direct feed to the
> >chair with Flexwell Coax. All amps are then switched parallelly and on
> >the sign from the executioner, the head of the club (K1LL) takes the
> >TS850SAT (SaveAltTasteless) and yells "CQ Contest". It is watts, not
> >volts killing our friends.
>
>
> >Peter Lemken
> >DF5JT
>
> You Germans have come along.
> Electricity instead of gas.


Burt

And you - as a person, not as a representative of the American people - have
such a sublime way of showing your superior wit, intelligence and
overwhelming understanding of humor and replying appropriately to it. I
admire you. Will you adopt me?


Bwaaahaaaahaaaa.....


And next time you followup one of my posts you should not change my
_very_ short (incomparison) sig.line. Understand?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT/KE4UNQ



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:29 1996
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help


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John R. Ruckstuhl)
Subject: 1 km range wireless telephone product available?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:44:46 GMT
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I checked rec.radio.amateur.misc FAQ; no luck there, perhaps there's a
better place to check?  What's the longest range wireless telephone
available without special FCC licensing (amateur radio) required for
operation?

I want a mobile telephone to carry around a small college campus.
A range of 1 km in bldgs around a base-station is probably about right.

It appears that the expected air-time would make the ordinary cell-phone
solution cost-prohibitive.

I know the 900 MHz telephones available, and I'll investigate whether
their range is adequate, but,
is there another technology I should be looking at?

Is there a clear winner or product line among 900 MHz telephones?

For a solution, I wouldn't blink at $400, and would probably be able to
spend much more than that.

I'm hoping that some kind readers can point me towards the right
product-line.
Thanks for any recommendations,
John Ruckstuhl
--
John R. Ruckstuhl                   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Alert: FCC Wants to TAX the Internet
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 04:31:46 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>FCC listen to us. The internet  isn't broken so don't try to fix it.
>If you want to kill something, TAX it.

>I quote from the W5YI Report of January 15, 1996: "Be prepared for an
>internet "Access Tax." The FCC is said to be very concerned that users
>can bypass long distance companies to make calls through the use of
>internet telephone schemes. The FCC believes that at some point they
>will have to address the economic impact of Internet technology on the
>nation's telephone companies. Being considered is a flat tax fee
>levied on the number of users served by Internet Service Providers.
>Another suggestion has ISPs paying a fee based on the amount of
>Internet traffic passing through their systems. ISPs would pass along
>the extra cost to their customers."

>We already pay tax on our phone bill, then another tax on the Internet
>service here in Texas. Will we permit this to happen? Write your
>Congressmen.
>[e-mail]

While one or two other posters have since made statements essentially
downplaying the above concern, I offer the following text from the
Jan 22, 1996 issue of Network World from an article entitled
PC Rampage will restructure telecommunications service.  The article
was written by David Buerger, a telecom industry consultant.

Begin quoted text:
Even the Federal Communicatons Commission has guns pointed at PC
Internet users.  FCC Chairman Reed Hundt is worried that the use of
Internet phone applications will ROB local phone companies of
revenue because they bypass long-distance companies, which in
turn won't pay mandated access fees to local phone companies.
Hundt is considering a digital services surcharge to help finance
universal telephone service.
End quoted text.

From the above quoted text, it would appear that Commissioner
Hundt has made public statements along the lines as reported
both by the W5YI report as well as the latest issue of Network
World (1/22/96 issue, page 67).  As such, I think we should all
stay tuned for what may become one of the hot issues for 1996
FCC action.


Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liason, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Alert: FCC Wants to TAX the Internet
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 14:11:03 GMT
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In article <30fdacf2.1778398@199.3.25.5> [e-mail] (Gilbert Baron)
writes:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>+GDB:I quote from the W5YI Report of January 15, 1996: "Be prepared for an
>+GDB:internet "Access Tax." The FCC is said to be very concerned that users
>+GDB:can bypass long distance companies to make calls through the use of
>+GDB:internet telephone schemes. The FCC believes that at some point they
>+GDB:will have to address the economic impact of Internet technology on the
>+GDB:nation's telephone companies. Being considered is a flat tax fee
>+GDB:levied on the number of users served by Internet Service Providers.
>+GDB:Another suggestion has ISPs paying a fee based on the amount of
>+GDB:Internet traffic passing through their systems. ISPs would pass along
>+GDB:the extra cost to their customers."
>+GDB:
>+GDB:We already pay tax on our phone bill, then another tax on the Internet
>+GDB:service here in Texas. Will we permit this to happen? Write your
>+GDB:Congressmen.
>+GDB:[e-mail]
>
>Don't pay attention to this un thought out post. The phone companies
>are in no danger whatsoever. The internet will never be able to carry
>even close to the traffic that the phone companies can carry. This
>method is not and never will be close to the telephone system in
>quality and reliability. The FCC has no taxing power either. This is
>flame bait pure and simple.
>_
>Gil Baron W0MN [e-mail] Web http://www.isl.net/~gbaron

The phone companies are in no danger *now*, because they are the
primary carriers for internet traffic, but that may change as alternate
local providers come on stream. The CATV people are drooling at the
thought of cutting into the local operating companies' territories,
and new wireless networks, like Ricochet, are springing up which
will also put pressure on the local operating companies. With the
addition of those alternate carriers, Internet traffic may indeed
come to exceed POTs traffic.

If the FCC has no taxing power (and they don't directly, it devolves
to them through authorizing legislation passed by Congress), then how
come there's a long distance access charge on your phone bill? The
FCC *can* impose fees (a nice word for taxes), on certain tele-
communications activities. This isn't as far fetched as it may at
first seem. The FCC is mandated to preserve universal service at
the dialtone level for POTs users. They have traditionally juggled
allowed rates to subsidize dialtone for POTs users from revenues
created by LD and business usage. With the internet now becoming a
major user of telecommunications infrastructure, don't be surprised
if it is looked at as a source of subsidy for POTs dialtone in the
same manner.

Gary
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Dolkas)
Subject: Re: Alinco dj-580
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Andrew John Murrell ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: Hi,
:
: I've got a alinco dj-580 handheld that appears to be playing up.
: When i turn it on it works ok for a few seconds, then it seems to go deaf on
: 2, and not transmit on 70 (but still tx's on 2, and rx's on 70). I have noti
ced
: that when it is acting up, and you tx on 70 (or at least try to :-)), the on
 airlight flashes.
:

Isn't the "on-air light flashing" the radio's way to tell you that the SWR is
too high?  I seem to remember that (but of course the manual isn't near by).
If so, this could be the "broken center pin on the BNC connector" problem.
An easy check is to wiggle the antenna as you receive a moderate signal, and
see if it cuts in and out.

Fixing the bloody thing isn't that hard, as long as you have steady hands,
good eyes, and a very small soldering iron.  If you want a blow-by-blow
walk through, let me know.  I think I've still got the write up I did after
my first experience with this problem.

Good luck,

Greg  KO6TH


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gregory K Doerschler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Alinco dj-580
Date: 20 Jan 1996 10:35:24 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Greg KO6TH brings up a recurring problem with my DJ-580.... the danged BNC
>connector gets really sloppy... of course, any BNC does this but the 580 seem
s
>to be worse than others...Anybody solved the problem?

You'll notice that center conductor of the BNC connector on the DJ-580 is
shaped kind of like a little fork, and only makes contact with the mating pin
on two sides.  Higher quality BNC connectors have contacts which completely
surround the center pin.  I replaced the one in my DJ-580 with one of these,
and it's made the connection much more reliable.  I did have to file the hole
in the case a bit and eliminate the rubber grommet that fits over the
connector since it prevented the antenna attaching.

The other problem with the DJ-580 BNC is that internally the center contact
is soldered directly to a rigid pin protruding from the PC board such that
there is nothing in the system that will flex when stress is placed on the
connector.  That's why the solder connection between the pin and center
contact tends to break.  When I installed the new connector, I added a
small, flexible piece of wire with a little bit of slack in it between the
BNC and PC board pin to take up any stress.  So far, it's worked fine.

Be aware that replacing the BNC does require a good deal of disassembly.
Unless you're someone like me who's constantly swapping antennas and
sticking the radio in a pocket, the stock BNC connection might well prove
to be completely adequate.


                                                   Greg
                                                   N1DEM


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:35 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLB006 FCC call sign update
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: 25 Jan 1996 17:02:55 -0500
Organization: American Radio Relay League
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB006
ARLB006 FCC call sign update

ZCZC AG85
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 6  ARLB006
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 25, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB006
ARLB006 FCC call sign update

The following is a list of the FCC's most recently issued call signs
as of January 1.

District       Group A        Group B        Group C        Group D
               Extra          Advanced       Tech/Gen       Novice

0              AB0AF          KI0AB           ++            KB0UTH
1              AA1PC          KE1DS          N1WJF          KB1BVV
2              AA2ZR          KG2FF           ++            KB2WPX
3              AA3NB          KE3VP          N3WOS          KB3BMG
4              AE4OS          KT4HY           ++            KF4FPQ
5              AC5GA          KK5VS           ++            KC5SCZ
6              AC6RK          KQ6CS           ++            KF6ALC
7              AB7OA          KJ7TD           ++            KC7OIX
8              AA8VK          KG8UQ           ++            KC8BUT
9              AA9QV          KG9FA           ++            KB9MGY
N. Mariana     KH0U           AH0AW          KH0EP          WH0ABD
Guam           WH2R           AH2DB          KH2PL          WH2ANO
Hawaii           ++           AH6OJ           ++            WH6CZE
Amer. Samoa    AH8O           AH8AH          KH8CK          WH8ABE
Alaska           ++           AL7QH           ++            WL7CRH
Virgin Is.     WP2U           KP2CJ          NP2IS          WP2AIA
Puerto Rico      ++            ++             ++            WP4NHG

++All call signs in this group have been issued in this area.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:37 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARLD006 BS7 start date
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: 25 Jan 1996 17:02:51 -0500
Organization: American Radio Relay League
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SB DX @ ARL $ARLD006
ARLD006 BS7 start date

ZCZC AE48
QST de W1AW
DX Bulletin 6  ARLD006
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 25, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB DX ARL ARLD006
ARLD006 BS7 start date

Today the DXCC Desk announced that the start date for Scarborough
Reef is January 1, 1995.  Only QSOs made on, or after, that date
will be eligible for DXCC credit.

The first accredited operation took place in April of 1995. The 1994
DXpedition did not qualify as a ''land based operation.''

As previously announced, QSL cards will be received by the DXCC Desk
starting April 1, 1996.  Cards received before that date will be
returned without action.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Finley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Atlas Radio?
Date: 24 Jan 1996 09:04:28 -0700
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
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NNTP-Posting-Host: orion.aoc.nrao.edu



Atlas Radio (in San Diego, I believe) is advertising their 400X
HF rig in several magazines.  At $800 for an all-band, 150 watt
radio, it seems like a possibly nice candidate for a mobile rig.

Has anyone seen one of these rigs?  Used one?  Own one?  If so,
what were your impressions?  Has it been reviewed anywhere?

Thanks,

Dave Finley, N1IRZ
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:39 1996
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From: Gerald Schmitt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Atlas Radio?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:24:06 -0700
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
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Dave Finley wrote:
>
> Atlas Radio (in San Diego, I believe) is advertising their 400X
> HF rig in several magazines.  At $800 for an all-band, 150 watt
> radio, it seems like a possibly nice candidate for a mobile rig.
>
> Has anyone seen one of these rigs?  Used one?  Own one?  If so,
> what were your impressions?  Has it been reviewed anywhere?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Finley, N1IRZ
> [e-mail]


Hi there old brass pounder,

There has been a large ammount of traffic on packet with reference
to the new Atlas Radio almost exclusively negative. They are said
to have taken a lot of money and have yet to deliver a radio. Get a
used TS-50 and crank it up to 200 watts or get one of the new Alincos
they are under $1000 new.

                        --... ...-- Jerry


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:39 1996
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From: James Bond <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ATV Equip. SWAP for LAPTOP
Date: 25 Jan 1996 04:04:30 GMT
Organization: James Bond & Associates [Private Investigators]
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X-Newsreader: AIR News 3.X (SPRY, Inc.)

SWAP:

P.C. Electronics Amatuer TV tranmitter 1200MHZ + transmit/receive antennas, 40
 ft/ hardline
(purchased 9 months ago, and barely used.  In storage since we moved in July)

for

486 Laptop Computer.  Looking for 50MHZ +, color screen, case, modem.

I have a camera, tripod, and other goodies too....depends on what you have to
offer:

If interested let me know immediatley.

Cash offers will be considered.  Name your price!

James Bond
KE6PXQ
http://www.ccnet.com/~jbond
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Barry Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AZ Repeater Association Home Page
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 00:07:40 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct, Inc.
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NNTP-Posting-Host: s82.phxslip4.indirect.com
X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4

http://www.indirect.com/www/ara

Comments and suggestions are welcome.
Thank you

Barry Rose   K7YYM


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:41 1996
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Distribution: world
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: [e-mail] (Angus Mcleod)
X-Mailer: NetXpress 1.53
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:56:00 -0640
Organization: The ANJO BBS
Subject: bincancel:21 large bi
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Lines: 13

DFN+| I think this was unnecessary and uncalled for in this particular news gr
ou
    | The information appears to have been relevant to
    | rec.radio.amateur.misc.  I've not seen any complaints in the news
    | group about this posting.
    | Please check with the users of the group before you cancel a posting.

This is not a 'binaries' group.  Relevant or not, large unsolicited
binaries shouldn't be posted here.

73, de Gus 8P6SM
Barbados - The easternmost isle.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
The ANJO BBS - [e-mail] <Angus Mcleod>


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Seth Breidbart)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: 23 Jan 1996 12:23:59 -0500
Organization: Society for the Promulgation of Cruelty to the Clueless
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References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com
Xref: news.epix.net news.admin.net-abuse.misc:31349 rec.radio.amateur.misc:97131

In article <[e-mail]>,
Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I think this was unnecessary and uncalled for in this particular news group.
>The information appears to have been relevant to
>rec.radio.amateur.misc.  I've not seen any complaints in the news
>group about this posting.
>Please check with the users of the group before you cancel a posting.

At this site, binary newsgroups typically have a 1-day expire,
discussion newsgroups around 1 week.  Newsgroups that allow binaries
are binary newsgroups, no matter what their names are.

This isn't the only site with that sort of policy.

Seth


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Barr)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: 23 Jan 1996 20:17:13 GMT
Organization: Mathematics Department, The Pennsylvania State University
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I think this was unnecessary and uncalled for in this particular news group.
>The information appears to have been relevant to
>rec.radio.amateur.misc.

That doesn't matter.  Binaries don't belong in a discussion group.
I've seen far too many good discussion groups get dropped by sites
because people started posting binaries to it.

>  I've not seen any complaints in the news
>group about this posting.

Consider this a complaint.

--Dave


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:44 1996
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From: Cecil Moore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: 24 Jan 1996 15:28:11 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ
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[e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone]) wrote:
>I think this was unnecessary and uncalled for in this particular news group.
>The information appears to have been relevant to
>rec.radio.amateur.misc.  I've not seen any complaints in the news
>group about this posting.
>Please check with the users of the group before you cancel a posting.
>
>73, doug

Hi Doug, this is a text-only group. A lot of us pay by the minute to
download the unread articles. A large binary file costs hundreds of
thousands of dollars for something only a handfull of people are
interested in. This is not the place for binary files.

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Books)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: 24 Jan 1996 22:14:50 GMT
Organization: CMDS News machine
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Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] ([e-mail]) wrote:
> OK, I was wrong.  There's never been a problem in the past that I know
> of, and appropriate binary postings have no good place, but I'm sure
> [e-mail] will be willing to provide an FTP home for any
> such files.
> 73, doug

alt.binaries.misc
alt.binaries.pictures
alt.binaries.pictures.misc
alt.binaries.ComputerSystem  (If it is software)

Do any of these look like they might work Mr. "There's never been a problem
in the past that I now of, and appropriate binary postings have no
good place"?  If these groups don't show up on your server expect
r.r.a.m. to go away if binaries start getting posted.

Roger
(Did I get my mothers tone of voice for when I made a smart-allecky
 comment?)


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: 25 Jan 1996 16:15:43 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
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Hmm.  So should I create alt.ham-radio.binaries - and would it get used?
Or should that be alt.binaries.ham-radio?
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: 24 Jan 1996 18:14:36 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: nothing.ucsd.edu

Binary postings are not welcome in this newsgroup.  They never have been.
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:48 1996
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!netcom17!faunt
From: [e-mail] (Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone])
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
In-Reply-To: [e-mail]'s message of Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:01:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Sender: [e-mail]
Organization: at home, in Oakland
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
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OK, I was wrong.  There's never been a problem in the past that I know
of, and appropriate binary postings have no good place, but I'm sure
[e-mail] will be willing to provide an FTP home for any
such files.
73, doug



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: 26 Jan 1996 16:15:10 GMT
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"Dana H. Myers" <[e-mail]> writes:
>I've been on the verge of creating alt.radio.amateur.flame for quite
>a long time.

Already exists, albeit with a slightly different newsgroup title, among
the alt.ham-radio hierarchy (to which I've just added the binaries group):

        alt.ham-radio.am
        alt.ham-radio.amtor
        alt.ham-radio.atv
        alt.ham-radio.binaries
        alt.ham-radio.digital-voice
        alt.ham-radio.dxing
        alt.ham-radio.eme
        alt.ham-radio.exotic-modes
        alt.ham-radio.fax
        alt.ham-radio.flame
        alt.ham-radio.fm
        alt.ham-radio.hf
        alt.ham-radio.mods
        alt.ham-radio.morse
        alt.ham-radio.nocode
        alt.ham-radio.packet
        alt.ham-radio.rtty
        alt.ham-radio.slowscan
        alt.ham-radio.spread
        alt.ham-radio.ssb
        alt.ham-radio.uwave
        alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf

                - Brian


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:50 1996
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From: Peter Lemken <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.tasteless,alt.peeves,alt.flame,alt.support.depression.maniac,alt.sex.movies,sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Re: Cape Cod Teacher Fired
Date: 23 Jan 1996 21:36:52 GMT
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>>In article <4dtbbo$[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writ
es:
>>
>>A Cape Cod Teacher was fired after producing some videos.
>>(a long time teacher in the Dennis-Yarmouth school system).
>>Many students demonstrated for him.
>>No hams did.

Why should they demonstrate for a porn producer?
Why should they demonstrate for YOU?

--
#================#=====================================================#
|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |
                    ^^^^^^^
                 Ex-Teacher?

| Amateur call   |         South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod)                |
|    K1OIK       |  The less you say, the more people will remember    |
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

<Let me ponder this for a second...> ......Bwahaaahaaaahaaaa ROTFLMFAO!


#================#=====================================================#
|                            [e-mail]                          |
#======================================================================#


Poor Burt,


out of a job, eh?


<Grinnnnnnn>


Peter Lemken
DF5JT/KE4UNQ

alt.research.psychopaths.k1oik  [nntp-server message: No such group] What???



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:51 1996
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.syspac.com!usenet
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cape Cod Teacher Fired
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:49:10 GMT
Organization: Systems Solutions Inc.
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Message-ID: <4e1b6d$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

>A Cape Cod Teacher was fired after producing some videos.
>(a long time teacher in the Dennis-Yarmouth school system).
>Many students demonstrated for him.
>No hams did.


>--
>#================#=====================================================#
>|  Burt Fisher   |  Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics     |


Just shows t' go ya that kids are more easily led (like sheep?) than
are hams.


         C. Dean Norris, Esq.
      Amateur Radio Station K7NO
      e-mail to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Norm Commo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cape Cod Teacher Fired
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 23:00:44 GMT
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In article <4dtbbo$[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes
:

>A Cape Cod Teacher was fired after producing some videos.
>(a long time teacher in the Dennis-Yarmouth school system).

More detail needed - very incomplete picture to anyone on the net not in the
news are where this is beign covered!

The school teacher had produced and starred a mix of soft and hardcore porn
videos done in CA. and had allegedly solicited a student to appear in a video.

The story was in the Thursday issue of the Boston Globe, page 25.  There was
also an a follow up issue in the Saturday Globe (page 20) that a second
student had come forward and alleged that the teacher had solicited her
appearance in a video.  The paper pointed out that both students were over 18
at the time of the alleged solicitations.

>Many students demonstrated for him.
>No hams did.

Not very surprising to me.  Unless any ham happenening to live in the
Dennis-Yarmouth area and has a strong opinion on the matter one way or the
other why would he or she?  The school superintendant did was he thought was
right and teacher (claiming innocence of solicitation) asked the students to
go back to school.  Apparently both the superintendant and the teacher are
following, or are expected to follow, the accepted protocols for handling this

sort of problem.

-ricK1log




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bunda Cheung Willie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: CB jargon Needed
Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:52:38 GMT
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Hello Out There!

I'm a complete newbie and I was told that there's some kind of jargon or
codes that are used over the CB such as like 10/4 for Roger and Out.

Stuff like that. Like they use "Smokey" or codes to describe stuff and
CB users are well versed in this lingo.

Anyone kind enough, please send me or direct me to where I could get such
jargon or lingo codes. Tia!

Willie Bunda ( [e-mail] )


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:54 1996
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Anyone out here in Rec.Radio land able to help Alex?  How about anyone
in the NYC area?  Please email to the below address, not the one in
the top of this message (it was posted elsewhere).

Thanks in advance to any elmer who helps.  Joe

----------------------------------------
[e-mail] (Alex948739) wrote:
The reason I did not get my licence is because I am only 15. When I have
time to study and learn stuff, I will get a licence. I was wondering, can
you transform portable CB radio that I have from GE to Ham? How did you
transformed it?Is it a good ham or a bad ham? Also, on cb since i live in
NY i hear alot of spanish itallian people speaking in other languages on
most channels and there is alot of profanity. I am wondering is there
anythink like that on HAm? Please send me plans on how to transform.
                                                               Thank You
------------------------------------------





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Nope... never saw it!

73 Terry/WB4FXD



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: DSP Noise Filter - Which is Best????
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4e3o2s$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Weir) writes:
>From another perspective ... does anybody have a reference (or even
>better, a bibliography) on DSP Design For Dummies?  I've been touted
>that DSP is the greatest thing since sliced bread and bottled beer and
>am trying to find out how to apply it to my version of POTS (Plain Old
>radioTelephone Signals).  Remember, I'm an analog RF cat in a digital
>room full of rocking chairs, so one-syllable words are important.

Ok, Jim, since you aren't interested in processing digital signals,
l'll refrain from referring you to

_Digital Modulation and Coding_ by Stephen Wilson
(my favorite)

or to

_Digital Communications Techniques, Signal Design and Detection_
by Simon, Hinedi, and Lindsey (comprehensive)

though I would recomend them highly to anyone wanting to understand
digital signaling systems.

Instead, what you need are the following

_Digital Signal Processing_ by Roberts and Mullis

_Analog and Digital Filter Design using C_ by Thede

_Wavelets and Subband Coding_ by Vetterli and Kovacevic
(this is more useful for image processing than audio, but it
is an advanced technique with application to any complex signal)

and a couple of good nuts and volts industry volumes

_Digital Signal Processing Applications using the ADSP-2100 Family_
vols I and II from Analog Devices (includes diskettes of practical
example code)

and

_ASDP-2100 Family User's Manual_ also by Analog Devices.

TI and Motorola also produce applications manuals for their chipsets,
so you'll want those if that's the way you're going to go, but the
Analog Devices books are much better reads and you'll learn stuff that'll
transfer to the other processors by studying them. The $89 Analog Devices
EZkit is also a quick and easy development platform. Recomended.

Naturally there are other books, and I wouldn't mind seeing other
people's lists of favorites. Plus for speech processing you may
want some books on vocal tract modelling and prediction.

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Glenn Johnson (KB5VQI))
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Subject: DTMF decoding software?
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Anyone have DTMF software for the PC?

Thanks,
Glenn
KB5VQI
****************************************************
Raki - Glenn Johnson - KB5VQI - Fort Worth Texas USA
HM - [e-mail] WK - [e-mail]
WWW - http://www.metronet.com/~raki/raki.html



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:58 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
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Have you also done the bonding routine of the hood to the fenders, and
fenders to firewall, fenders to radiator support, all to the vehicle frame
etc.  doing this lessened my ignition noise from about an S-9 to about an
S-2 to 3 depending on the load.  I did not believe it would work, but had a
spare sunday afternoon and some old coax. I sandwiched the bonds netween
shake proof lock washers, also scraped a bit of paint where I attached the
ground. I use No. 8 stainless steel sheet metal screews. phillips head.

Try it.

Gary




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:16:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Mack)
Subject: Re: Eliminating auto spark ignition nosie
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In article <4e1piq$[e-mail]> "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
writes:
>Have you also done the bonding routine of the hood to the fenders, and
>fenders to firewall, fenders to radiator support, all to the vehicle frame
>etc.  doing this lessened my ignition noise from about an S-9 to about an
>S-2 to 3 depending on the load.  I did not believe it would work, but had a
>spare sunday afternoon and some old coax. I sandwiched the bonds netween
>shake proof lock washers, also scraped a bit of paint where I attached the
>ground. I use No. 8 stainless steel sheet metal screews. phillips head.
>
>Try it.
>
>Gary
>
>
I did the same thing (including the muffler at several points) and
only got down to S5-7. I relied on the noise blanker after that.
It was a noticable improvement but not impressive.

        Joe Mack NA3T
        [e-mail]





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[e-mail] wrote:
>
>SB QST @ ARL $ARLB004
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>
>ZCZC AG83
>QST de W1AW
>ARRL Bulletin 4  ARLB004
>From ARRL Headquarters
>Newington CT  January 17, 1996
>To all radio amateurs
>
>SB QST ARL ARLB004

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QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 35  ARLB035
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  April 5, 1995
To all radio amateurs

Read the above.
Are ANY ARRL bulletins (except the propagation report) not from ARRL
headquarters? Does Newington have to be on each one? Are ANY bulletins
addressed to any one OTHER than "To all radio amateurs?" Why does the
ARRL and hams in general use 1000 words when 100 will do? Aren't we
"into" communications?


The F.C.C. said the following:


''The amateur service community in the United States generally
considers the current telegraphy speed requirements as necessary and
appropriate,'' the FCC said.

Who the hell is running the FCC, the hams or the government? The FCC is
using as justification for keeping CW the fact that hams want it. Can't
the FCC make a decision for the public good and merely consider the hams
opinion rather the be dictated to by the ARRL and other hams? Should I
write my Congressman to see who is in charge? (by the way I support the
current CW/no code position).



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:02 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Norm Commo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Excessive heade: ARLB004 FCC shrinks backlog
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:32:52 GMT
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In article <4dpdpe$[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> writes
:

>Who the hell is running the FCC, the hams or the government? The FCC is
>using as justification for keeping CW the fact that hams want it. Can't
>the FCC make a decision for the public good and merely consider the hams
>opinion rather the be dictated to by the ARRL and other hams? Should I
>write my Congressman to see who is in charge? (by the way I support the
>current CW/no code position).

Actually, I believe that the FCC's opinion is formed ("compliant with" might
be a better choice of words) by the ITU (or some other such similar
international "regulatory" body).  Someone else on the net more knowledgable
about this than me might have some words to speak about this one way or
'tother.

-ricK1log



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill McLeish)
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Subject: Re: Finding a ham operator.
Date: 25 Jan 1996 00:50:31 GMT
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Jean S. Hall ([e-mail]) wrote:
: How do I go about finding somebody local who is a ham?

Check with a local commercial radio station, or tv, to see whether one of
their engineers is a ham.




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Ask at Radio Shack if they know of a local ham or ham club.




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How do I go about finding somebody local who is a ham?



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz)
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In article <4e6jll$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jean
S. Hall) writes:
>How do I go about finding somebody local who is a ham?
>

 Check your telephone book for a retail outlet that markets amateur radio
equipment. Once you find them, call and ask about local clubs, there's sure
to be one in your area. Alternatively, write the ARRL - they can direct you
to the nearest ham who can assist you in becoming a ham. Good Luck!


[e-mail] (or:[e-mail]) KB6LUY (private email:eks@westwo
rld.com)
TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA  90405
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BSIDIARIES
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:06 1996
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From: Cormac Thompson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Finding power line noise source
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 20:29:58 -0800
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Arthur Burke wrote:
>
> Sometimes you can get lucky just using a portable AM/FM radio, preferably
> tuned on the AM band. Try tuning to a frequency not used by a local
> station and look for nulls off the end of the built-in loopstick antenna.
> While it isn't as accurate as a VHF rig with Yagi, it's a lot more
> convenient and can often "get you in the neighborhood."
>
> Art Burke
> Lenexa, KS
> NE4FTry using an Aircraft Band handheld.  They work in the 118-135 MHz range

but on AM.  You have to be closer to the noise source than when using an
AM receiver on a lower frequency.  You can get within a few feet of the
problem as a rule, based on my past experience.

The next problem is getting the power company to do something about it!
Good Luck.

Cormac, W7JHS
Prosser, WA.


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From: [e-mail] (WA8ULX)
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Subject: fs 486dx-25 386dx PROCESSOR
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i HAVE FOR SALE A 486DX-25 AND 386DX-25 PROCESSOR FOR SALE I CAN BE
REACHED AT [e-mail] 73 BRUCE


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:07 1996
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Subject: FS : Radio Shack Pro-62 hand held scanner - MINT
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Radio Shack Pro-62 hand held scanner, MINT in box with manual, etc.
Includes optional soft leather case and AC wall wart adaptor/charger.
Includes shipping to 48 states, COD $5.00 extra.  If interested,
please make a reasonable and sincere offer via E-Mail.





From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:08 1996
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From: Barry Cooper <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: Test Equipment
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:51:13 +0000
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The following Test Equipment is surplus to requirements. Prices or ono
as follows (UK pounds):

HAMEG 60MHz Dual Channel Oscilloscope HM604
boxed with instructions & probes. Cost 700+             375.00

RF Signal Generator - See current RS Components
Catalogue (206-949) Cost 172                            105.00

Levell Model 7705 Capacitance Meter                      40.00
1pF - 2000uF

Sabronics Model 8610B Freq Counter 600MHz                40.00
with RF probe.

Trio/Kenwood DM-800 Grid Dip Oscillator                  60.00

Polomar Engineers RX Noise Bridge                        35.00

AF Sine Wave Generator (Maplin)                          20.00


Loads of components etc. to be cleared. Not junk, but no longer have
time to construct!

Carriage to be agreed.
Barry Cooper                            Tel: [phone]
G4RKO
                                        E-mail: [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:09 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Wright)
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
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In article <4dvi44$[e-mail]>, Tad Cook <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jim Jaworski ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:      Morse Code is DEAD.  Get rid of it.  This IS almost the 21st
>: Century you know.
>
>Dead?  Do you have an HF radio?  Try tuning around the low
>end of the popular HF bands.  You'll hear lots of Morse.

Or better yet, tune around in the Novice subband on 80 (3675 - 3725) during
the evening. It's hard to find a clear spot to call CQ. You'll hear lots of
folks investing the effort to get more proficient at their craft.

Followups directed to rec.radio.amateur.policy (which these days is more
whining ..... errrr noise to signal these days).

Dave

Donning the nomex suit now ....




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:11 1996
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From: Stephen.Baker%1:2619/211.9 (Stephen Baker%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 21 Jan 96 11:42:04
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ground to air radio.
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To: Stephen Baker%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Baker)
Subject: Re: ground to air radio.
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway

My daughter may be going on a wilderness canoe trek in alaska next
summer.  She did this once before and the only problem they had was
communicating with their bush pilot who was resupplying them.  Last
time they had a marine vhf ht, a gps, and one of those things that
initiates a sattelite distress resulting in a rescue  (I'm not sure
what it is called).

I know my ft530 can receive AM in aircraft frequencies and can be
modified to transmit fm there and in the marine bands.  Is there
an ht that can do AM and FM in the 120-135 mhz band and in marine freqs?

Also, I know there are rescue rigs with all this, like the one the downed
pilot in bosnia used, does anyone know what these cost?

--


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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Baker)
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My daughter may be going on a wilderness canoe trek in alaska next
summer.  She did this once before and the only problem they had was
communicating with their bush pilot who was resupplying them.  Last
time they had a marine vhf ht, a gps, and one of those things that
initiates a sattelite distress resulting in a rescue  (I'm not sure
what it is called).

I know my ft530 can receive AM in aircraft frequencies and can be
modified to transmit fm there and in the marine bands.  Is there
an ht that can do AM and FM in the 120-135 mhz band and in marine freqs?

Also, I know there are rescue rigs with all this, like the one the downed
pilot in bosnia used, does anyone know what these cost?

--


Stephen P. Baker                              phone:    [phone]
Lecturer in Biostatistics                               [phone] fax
Department of Academic Computing                        [phone] home
University of Massachusetts Medical School    e-mail: [e-mail]
55 Lake Avenue North                                  -.- -.. .---- .--. ..-.
Worcester, MA 01655                           www:    http://stats.ummed.edu/
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wagner)
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Subject: HAM Encryption outside the US?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:17:13 GMT
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In the US, it is illegal to encrypt any communications on the ham bands.
Is this true in other countries?  Is it an international thing?

There was a post on packet over the weekend from someone outside the US
suggesting the use of PGP for encryption on packet.  I suppose it would be
OK to use PGP for digital signatures, but using it for encryption is a
no-no here in the states.  How about elsewhere?
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John Wagner                  [e-mail]

For Encrypted Mail: PGP Public Key Available upon Request



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:13 1996
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From: "Conan C. Albrecht" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help on Antennas and Satellites!
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 13:32:11 -0700
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I am building a program to calculate the direction and angle of Ham
Radio antennas to point at Satellites for a CS class in my Masters
Program.  Can anyone help explain how Ham Radios use Satellites to
communicate?  I don't know much about Ham Radios (I didn't think they
needed Satellites).

Thanks.  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:14 1996
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From: Joe Fitter   BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HF CONTESTS- Schedule and rules : URL available ???
Date: 26 Jan 1996 08:36:34 GMT
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Hi,
I'm looking for a URL that gives contest information, upcoming
HF contests especially including rules and reg's, dates and times,
etc.  Please email with any specifics.

thank you, Joe



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:15 1996
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From: [e-mail](michael silva)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Homodyne detection - how does it work?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 19:12:46 GMT
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In <4e84m7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mike P.)
writes:
>
>As I understand it, homodyne detection consists of mixing
>a modulated signal with itself...

Actually, it means mixing a modulated signal with a local oscillator at
the same frequency.  It's an old term for direct conversion (a very
common configuration for simple receivers these days), just as autodyne
is an old term for regeneration.

73,
Mike, KK6GM



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:16 1996
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From: Mike Gathergood <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Homodyne detection - how does it work?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 17:42:57 GMT
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In article <4e84m7$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Mike P." writes:

> As I understand it, homodyne detection consists of mixing
> a modulated signal with itself.  However, if I have two
> versions of a signal that differ only in phase:

I thought the term homodyne referred to direct conversion, IOW
mixing the wanted signal with a local oscillator at the same
frequency.

73
Mike                  * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL *
G4KFK                 * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz *


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (K Short)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HTX-202, HTX-404 external mic mod
Date: 23 Jan 1996 17:56:00 GMT
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There is a mod that will overcome the weak ext mic audio problem of the
HTX -202 and 404 rigs. Check out :
http://pages.prodigy.com/CA/LA/htx202htx404/htx202htx404.html



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Val Breault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I love this hobby!!!
Date: 22 Jan 1996 14:23:52 GMT
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In article <4do9dr$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott Rosenf
eld NF3I) writes:

> Last night, I was giving a demonstration to a bunch of
> Tiger Cubs (6 yo, pre-Boy Scouts) about the wonders of ham
> radio, propagation, and other neat stuff like Morse Code.

<deletia>

> They had a VERY good time.  I half-expect their parents to
> go and get licensed, in fact.
>
> What a hobby!

BRAVO!  "What a hobby!" - indeed.

That's just the kind of story I needed to read this morning.

Way to go Scott!

(I've quit reading the negative posts but I *really* needed to read
something positive on this I-wish-I-was-retired-and-sleeping kind of
Monday.)

--
Val Breault [e-mail]          \      /|     ars N8OEF
General Motors R&D Center, Warren, MI  \    / |     pres GM ARC
My opinions are not necessarily those   \  /__|     HF mobile on
of GM R&D or of the GM Corporation.      \/   |___  14.200 +/-


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: I love this hobby!!!
Date: 19 Jan 1996 14:21:47 GMT
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Last night, I was giving a demonstration to a bunch of
Tiger Cubs (6 yo, pre-Boy Scouts) about the wonders of ham
radio, propagation, and other neat stuff like Morse Code.

Flipped on the TS-440S, running into the tribander up 120'
above the ground at the U of M Radio Club, and called
CQ on 14.250.

I was immediately answered by a guy in SW Florida who was
operating from his car, driving by the Everglades.  We had
a nice chat, and the kids (and parents) were summarily
impressed.  "Licensing costs HOW much?  Nothing?"

Upon signing, I was ready to go to the opening of the mtg.
when I was called by another gentleman in south FL.  We
spoke for a few, and ended up going from S5 to S9+30db in
a period of about 2 minutes.

The kids then proceeded to learn a little about Morse, and
I got to send to each other using 49 MHz walkie-talkies.

They had a VERY good time.  I half-expect their parents to
go and get licensed, in fact.

What a hobby!
--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440
** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas **
Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles...
72 & 73 from suburban DC  301-549-1022 (h)  301-982-1015 (w)


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:21 1996
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From: Leon.D..Zetekoff%1:2619/211.9 (Leon D. Zetekoff%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 21 Jan 96 08:38:17
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IC2700 Mods and info
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To: Leon D. Zetekoff%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Leon D. Zetekoff)
Subject: IC2700 Mods and info
Organization: Z&K Enterprises

I just recently purchased an IC2700H and moved my IC2410 into the house.
First thing I noticed is the VHF receiver in the 2700 is not as good
(selectively) as the 2410. It seems to be more prone to overload and
cross-mod. Anyone have any similar problems and solutions for correction?
Also, I'm looking for any mods for this radio. Can anyone help?

73.

Leon D. Zetekoff, N.C.E.
Z&K Enterprises
1338 SW 3 Street
Boca Raton, FL 33486

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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:21 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: ICOM Help
Date: 26 Jan 1996 05:50:13 GMT
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Email your request to [e-mail] or call 206-454-7619 for
voice support.  If you e-mail make sure your return e-mail address is
correct in your mailer, as many are being bounced back for a bad return
e-mail address.

Gary



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Keith E. Brandt, M.D.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ICOM Help
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:43:31 GMT
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I have a brain-dead IC2400 dual-band mobile rig. Since I have recently moved,
I can't find the instructions! Does anyone know the CPU reset procedure and/or
have ICOM's tech support number????

Thanks,

Keith

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Icom service.  Where?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 03:01:13 GMT
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Try http://www.oz.net/icom/ fer service info.
Personnaly, I've had gud luck with the office
near Seattle (Bellville/Bellview?)

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:24 1996
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Subject: Icom service.  Where?
Date: 24 Jan 96 15:17:11 GMT
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Can anyone point me to an authorized Icom Service center for me to send my Ico
m
736 for repair.  Deaf receiver.  It would be nice to find a place within the
New England region (so I can hand carry) but will ship it if needed.  Thanks.
David Bourque WB1FLD
email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:25 1996
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From: Gary Stone <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Internet to Packet in VK land ?
Date: 21 Jan 1996 22:20:13 GMT
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Greetings,

I am looking for a way to send a ham packet via an Australia internet
e-mail address.

I am basically looking for a gateway that I can send via the internet a
ham radio packet message to a friend in Australia.

I have been using the W2XO gateway in Penn., but I am not sure how
effecient it has been working.  A gateway in VK land would be great.

Any ideas appreciated and please respond via e-mail if possible.

Thanks and 73,

Gary (N5PHT)



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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:25 1996
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Subject: IOTA info
Date: 24 Jan 1996 12:38:39 GMT
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Can someone give me the state side address and/or phone # to order the IOTA di
rectory and handbook?

Please answer direct to my e-mail address vs this newsgroup

Tnx   73

Steve   AA1IZ




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:26 1996
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From: Jim.Martin%1:2619/211.9 (Jim Martin%1:2619/211.9)
Date: 21 Jan 96 13:07:26
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Keesler AFB Radio Club 1965/66??
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To: Jim Martin%1:2619/211.9%12:320/100.666
From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
Subject: Re: Keesler AFB Radio Club 1965/66??
Organization: WK1V

[e-mail] (Thomas Anderson) wrote:

>:Is there anyone out there who was at Keesler AFB in 65 and 66. I used to
>:go ovver to the club with Bill(last name forgotten) who was from 2 land .
>:Bill was pretty good on bug . Sure would like to see if i could contact
>:some of those club hams again. Tom, KA8JIL.

Sorry Tom.  I don't know anyone who was there at that time.  I was
president of K5TYP from 82 to 85.  Through the years the club
membership waxed and waned...At one time we almost lost the club.
WA7SKG and myself went before the base commander in 1982 to plead our
case to keep the club going.  Of all the MWR activities it was the
only one in the black.  It became the Keesler Amateur Radio Activity
in 1985.

Last time I stopped by and visited was in 1990.  The club appeared to
be going strong.  I even worked K5 Tiny Yellow Polka-dots in a few
contests since then.

I still have a fondness for K5TYP...  It is through the club that I
obtained my ticket <KA5MWD> in 1981.

Just a thought....you may want to contact K5QQT or K5QKY...Betty and
Bob Beckstein, respectively. They have been in Biloxi for some time
and if anyone could answer your questions they would be most likely
able to.

  73, jim
   wk1v    ex. KA5MWD, N1CLS, KB1LW


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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Chris Boone)
Date: 25 Jan 96 05:50:02
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Keesler AFB Radio Club 1965/66??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
X-FTN-To: Jim Martin
Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc.
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5*** Quoting Jim Martin to All dated 01-21-96 ***
>
> I still have a fondness for K5TYP...  It is through the club that I
> obtained my ticket <KA5MWD> in 1981.
>
K5TYP was my first contact as a Novice back in 73! Had terrible QSB and the op

at the other end had a terrible fist (worse than mine was at that
time!)....but did copy call and Keesler........

I thinkI did finally get a QSL card from them....

73
Chris
WB5ITT
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Keesler AFB Radio Club 1965/66??
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 18:07:26 GMT
Organization: WK1V
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[e-mail] (Thomas Anderson) wrote:

>:Is there anyone out there who was at Keesler AFB in 65 and 66. I used to
>:go ovver to the club with Bill(last name forgotten) who was from 2 land .
>:Bill was pretty good on bug . Sure would like to see if i could contact
>:some of those club hams again. Tom, KA8JIL.

Sorry Tom.  I don't know anyone who was there at that time.  I was
president of K5TYP from 82 to 85.  Through the years the club
membership waxed and waned...At one time we almost lost the club.
WA7SKG and myself went before the base commander in 1982 to plead our
case to keep the club going.  Of all the MWR activities it was the
only one in the black.  It became the Keesler Amateur Radio Activity
in 1985.

Last time I stopped by and visited was in 1990.  The club appeared to
be going strong.  I even worked K5 Tiny Yellow Polka-dots in a few
contests since then.

I still have a fondness for K5TYP...  It is through the club that I
obtained my ticket <KA5MWD> in 1981.

Just a thought....you may want to contact K5QQT or K5QKY...Betty and
Bob Beckstein, respectively. They have been in Biloxi for some time
and if anyone could answer your questions they would be most likely
able to.

  73, jim
   wk1v    ex. KA5MWD, N1CLS, KB1LW



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tony)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Kenwood ts-700sp
Date: 24 Jan 1996 06:58:31 GMT
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I'm looking for a service manual for the kenwood ts-700sp
we nee to set the bias as to replace the final....
if you can help please e-mail me at [e-mail]
thanks
tony



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Guy A. DeRose)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Las Vegas 2m/440 freqs
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:57:27 LOCAL
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bruce Miller) writes:

>I'll be in Las Vegas next week; any suggestions for friendly repeaters?

>Or other good LV info?

Bruce,
I have no info about 440 repeaters regarding coverage, only what exists, but
on 2 M, two good repeaters that I have used are Upper Potosi on 146.880-
(100.0) and Tropicana Hotel on 146.940- (127.3).  There is another repeater at

Tropicana on 449.700-.  Upper Potosi is a very wide-coverage repeater on a 10
thousand - some foot mountain, which can be reached from Barstow, CA to St.
George, UT when conditions are good.  AES has a store in LV, but I haven't
been to it.  If you have the need for specific information about Las Vegas,
email me, or ask in alt.vacations.las-vegas or rec.gambling.misc.  NOAA
weather in LV is found on 162.550 MHz.

I hope this helps.

Guy, KE6JTN.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Launching a balloon?  What do I need?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 16:15:54 GMT
Organization: Ohio Edison Company, Akron OH
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Our local club is interested in a couple of balloon launch scenerios.

1)  We would like to put up a tethered weather balloon at Field Day.  It
would serve 2 purposes: It would carry a dual band radio to use as a remote
base, and it would be tethered with wire, making it a beautiful 160 meter
vertical.  I'm interested in altitudes of between 2000 and 10000 ft.

2) A free floating balloon, carrying maybe a repeater, ATV, etc.  I know
this has been done by several groups in the past, so there must be some
experienced folks out there.

What regulates balloons like these?

What does the FAA require me to file, and how long should I expect to wait
for permission (barring any more government shutdowns)

Any other suggestions or ideas or things to watch out for?

Thanks!
-------------------------------------------------------------------
John Wagner                  [e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Brandon)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,alt.2600,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for DataRx
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 07:13:01 GMT
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I'm looking for information on a company called "DataRx" which used to
sell FM SCA data demodulation kits (used Exar XR2211 FSK decoder).  I
think they are no longer around, but if anybody knows otherwise, or if
you have one of these kits (or something similar) you'd like to sell me,
please send email.



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics,sci.electronics.misc,alt.cellular-phone-tech,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Digital PLL/Receiver chips!
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:36:36 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mike Collins) wrote:

>In article <4dkno6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>I'll be glad to discuss the use of Plessey on a one-on-one basis with
>>anybody who wants to find out just how they treat their customers.  I
>>won't write it down for libel reasons.
>>
>>Jim

>I believe that for libel to stick, it has to be dishonest. Do you have
>confidence in what you have to say about them?

All I can tell you is what they did to me quite a while ago.  While
the time has sort of smoothed over the rumples, the cost involved is
still vivid.

And the restriction remains.

Jim



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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:35 1996
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From: [e-mail](Dave Bushong )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Math's notes: undiscovered 50 GHz + ?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 04:12:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jan 24  8:12:29 PM PST 1996

I just read an editorial in CQ about how we are facing a situation that
hams faced during the early part of this century.  It was that hams
were given the (unusable) band spectrum of 2 MHz and above.

Back then, no one thought they could resonate anything at 2 million
cycles per second, not in a way that anyone would care.

Right now, they say "100 GHz?  It's unusable!"

Back then, they said (well, whatever they said, it made 3-30 MHz
considered 'High Frequency').

The US government gave hams 2 MHz and everything above, because it was
something that no one knew how to use.  Now look at it.

We have been given "50 GHz and above".  It's almost a taunt.  I have no
idea how to use this during the next 50 years.  I hope I live long
enough to say at least that I was looking toward the future.

73,
Dave KZ1O



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:36 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: MISC STUFF FOR SALE
Date: 24 Jan 1996 22:01:39 GMT
Organization: SunBelt.Net INTERNET Access
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After doing some early spring cleaning i have the following stuff for
sale.

One box of Motorola and some GE VHF/UHF ICONS  Makeoffer on box
50 Motorola Pageboy Chargers {NO PAGERS} $2.00 each make offer on all
one box of misc New Tubes $65.00 for all shipped
Couple control Heads for Motorola and GE radio make offer on all
I have several Speakers for Motorola and GE Radios $5.00 each plus
shipping.
100 foot of new hard line with connectors $275.00 Pickup only

Email [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DCimp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola Information
Date: 22 Jan 1996 16:27:03 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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I am looking for some information on Motorola Radios,

I have 2 VHF MX300S (136-150 split ) portables, they have most of the
parts in them, what I need to know, is about at the bottom of the radio,
there is an area listed for the Flex .......modual, and another area below
that for some part, can anyone tell me about it, It looks like I have part
of the Top modual, but a cap may be missing, and there is a blank space
below it, How hard are they to get ptogramed?, how often can it be
programed, only 1, or more times, if I want?, where can I get the Prom for
the radio? etc.  My goal is to get it programed for the ham freq's, are
all the memory moduals the same in the VHF versons, I can get a 150-162
split radio, with ALL parts intact, but I do not know if the memory
moduals, are the same, it looks that way from the manual I have, but I'm
not 100% sure.
     Are the parts the same for all the Models as far as number of
channels is concerned?, can I take a 12, 24, 48 channel radio with no
parts inside, and transplant the 4 Channel parts into it and have the 48
CH version?



     OK, next topic..........

      I have a SYNTOR Mobile, I was told it was a 16 Channel version, but
I do not have the control head, speaker, mic, etc.   I also have been told
that Micor excessories work........ If I have the radio programed for the
16 channels, can I only use a 16 channel control head? or can I use any
one I have on hand, i have a SYS 90 8 FReq set, and a 12 ch set, and
another 4 channel set, (All From Micors ) will they all work???? my goal
it to use the 12 channel set, but the 8 CH set has scan on it???? any
input.  The radio is also 136-150 split, will that make any dif????  where
can I get it programed, and where can I get the proms????

     thanks in advance for any information you can give.

thanks   Dave  KB8QHU


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (DCimp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola manual
Date: 26 Jan 1996 09:13:06 -0500
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I am in dire need of a Motorola Synotr Manual.......

NOT A SYNTOR X, or a SYNTOR X9000,   just a Syntor Manual, in the 136-150
Split, but any VHF version will do..... I need it soon, can anybody help?

Dave KB8QHU      [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WB7ASR)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need # for Midland
Date: 24 Jan 1996 16:16:57 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ
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I purchased a 6m FM Midland 70-056C 2-way transceiver at a local
hanfest and would like to acquire a copy of the service manual.

Does anyone have a telephone number or address source?

73s, WB7ASR...



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KCKM)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need Collins ART-13 info
Date: 25 Jan 1996 10:07:03 -0500
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Looking for information an a Collins ART-13 Autotune transmitter. Please
E-mail at [e-mail]    Thank you
Ken Johnson
 WB8VTW


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roy Boggs)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need Email Address/Area 4 InComing Buro
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 20:47:47 GMT
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Hello guys,

Does any one have an email address for the Incoming QSL Buro for call
area 4?

tnx and 73,  Roy   KE4KDT
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ronald C. Barnes)
Subject: Need Novatel 8305A cellphone info badly
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Well, here I go again, I've been looking for this information for some time
now and hopefully SOMEONE has SOMETHING.

I have a few Novatel model 8305A cellular phones that I wish to convert over
to 900MHz.  They are black, square, about 10" x 10" x 2".

At the very least I need a schematic, but full service information would be
nice too.  I understand that there was a Novatel Amateur Radio Club at one
time and they did just this, converted them over to 900MHz for packet.

Any info would be appreciated and I of course will pay costs of copying and
shipping if necessary.

Please reply via e-mail...   [e-mail]

73zzz   Ron


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:43 1996
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From: "Lacy Thompson Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re:  New Vocal Eliminator Algorithm
Date: 23 Jan 1996 13:57:43 GMT
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  A new Vocal Eliminator algorithm which allows for even more vocal
elimination than LT Sound's State of the Art VE3+ will be introduced in
early 1996.  Persons interested in finding out more about the Thompson
Vocal Eliminator(tm) are invited to visit our home page at
http://www.mindspring.com/~ltsound/lthome.htm or e-mail a catalog request
to [e-mail]
  The VE3+ contains State of the Art Vocal Elimination, Key Transposition,
and Vocal Enhancement in one compact unit.  The Thompson Vocal
Eliminator(tm) allows users to remove the vocal from standard stereo
recordings producing inexpensive, instantly available background music
from the original standard recording.  Software upgrades occur
approximately every 6 months.  Current owners of the VE3+ will be able to
upgrade their software for a nominal charge of $25.




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Allan M. Sniffen (WB2IXR))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New Web Page
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 01:38:51 GMT
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Hi all,

Check the Web Page for the Northern Westchester Amateur Radio
Association (in Yorktown, NY).

The URL is http://www.computer.net/nwara/wb2ixr.html
[e-mail]
WB2IXR



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:45 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Newsline - poor math!
Date: 24 Jan 1996 16:34:32 GMT
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Newsline, the weekly bulletin from WA6ITF, et. al, recently
made a big deal of the fact that since 1991, the Tech+ class
had only grown by about 10,000 folks. Their conclusion was
that this proves that only 10,000 codeless tech had upgraded
their license.

Their position totally ignores the growth of the "top three"
(General, Advanced, and Extra) classes during the same period.
Those classes grew, not by 10,000, but by almost 46,000 since
1991.  So the total upgrade traffic is not 10,000, but just
under 56,000! Further, the largest "gainer" was Extra class.

The same classes grew only by 18,000 (vs 46,000) in the five
years just PRIOR to the dawn of "no-code". Clearly these new
folks ARE upgrading BEYOND Tech+.

Since the "oldest" no-code license is not yet even 5 years old,
I think this trend can only accelerate as these newcomers gain
experience and the better sunspot situation attracts them to
the excitement of worldwide HF communications.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
-- My homepage is at:
   "http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/k0hb"

-- It's still a hardhat area... under construction


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:46 1996
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>Newsline, the weekly bulletin from WA6ITF, et. al, recently
>made a big deal of the fact that since 1991, the Tech+ class
>had only grown by about 10,000 folks. Their conclusion was
>that this proves that only 10,000 codeless tech had upgraded
>their license.

>Their position totally ignores the growth of the "top three"
>(General, Advanced, and Extra) classes during the same period.
>Those classes grew, not by 10,000, but by almost 46,000 since
>1991.  So the total upgrade traffic is not 10,000, but just
>under 56,000! Further, the largest "gainer" was Extra class.


I agree! I think there is an attitude that people assume that a no-code
tech is automatically going to up-grade to tech plus. Last year when I was
in a VE session to up-grade my license, there were two no-coders who
jumped past tech plus. They both passed their 13 wpm code test, one
passed General written and one went all the way to Advanced!

73 from Steve



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
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Subject: Re: Not the code, not the test
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In article <4e8adj$[e-mail]>,
Vincent Biancomano  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In response to "SKS":
>Jerry Lucas, former professional basketball player with New York
>and Cincinnati, once provided documented evidence that he had
>memorized the first 500 PAGES of the Manhattan (New York City)
>telephone directory! Three hundred questions in a pool
>would be nothing!

So did he get licensed?

Seriously, Vince, do you think that this is somehow a normal ability? I wish
it were! It remains that for the vast majority of the unwashed masses,
memorizing 300 questions isn't the easiest way.

Please respect the Followup-to: line.

>Vince, WB2EZG

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James W. KELLEY)
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In article <4e8adj$[e-mail]>,
Vincent Biancomano  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In response to "SKS":
>Jerry Lucas, former professional basketball player with New York
>and Cincinnati, once provided documented evidence that he had
>memorized the first 500 PAGES of the Manhattan (New York City)
>telephone directory! Three hundred questions in a pool
>would be nothing!

And yet even he hasn't passed an amateur radio exam! hi

But I'll bet he'd have even less trouble with the code elements!

KE6JPO







From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Stockton)
Subject: Re: Operate in Germany
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[e-mail] wrote:

: Peter,
: that is a great and simple idea but *highly illegal*!

    Extremely risky too!  Radio has been very tightly regulated in
Germany, and a VE callsign is going to be quite remarkable on 2 metres !


: Meyer,
: you need to apply for a temporary reciprocial license at the BAPT.
: Try writing to
:                   BAPT
:                   Amateurfunkverwaltung
:                   Postfach 8001
:                   55003 Mainz


        I've had professional dealings with BAPT at Mainz, and found them
to be an excellent bunch of people, many of them amateurs.

    Oh yes, they also have a fleet of about 150 vans with broadband
monitoring receivers, and a network of fixed DF'ing stations.
Spectrum management agencies in other countries closely study BAPT's
methods - they are seen to be "Market leaders"


   I agree very strongly with Uli's advice. Check with your national
society to find reciprocal licence conditions applicable to your country
and your licence class, then get the right form and make the necessary
application to BAPT - you'll also need to know what proof of licence is
necessary.

   What you need is for your licence to be made part of the CEPT
agreement... it makes life so much easier!


    Cheers
          David (designed certain monitoring receivers) GM4ZNX



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (CRONIN)
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Subject: Re: Opinions re. Ramsey SX-20
Date: 25 Jan 1996 23:38:24 GMT
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In article <4dtr8p$[e-mail]>,
Jim Sheffield <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hello out there:
>
>Being a ham, I know we hams have plenty of
>opinions, so please give me yours on the Ramsey
>SX-20 20M SSB/CW HF Transceiver.  Anyone built
>and/or operated one?  I am particularly interested
>in the CW performance.  Thanks and 73,
>
>Jim, KB7ET
>[e-mail]

Haven't seen that particular model, but they are known for making
junk.  The synthesized FM transceivers are poorly designed, unreliable
and generate spurs and other junk.  Their  PA-10 2-meter class C amp
has no output filtering.

They also sell a wireless FM microphone kit complete with crystal for
144 MHz.

I suggest dealing with a reputable company.

73..Jim  N2VNO


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:53 1996
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From: Gregg Houck <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Pre-70's Swap Shop at www.houck.com/ham
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We just added another feature to our Web site.

It's called the Pre-70's Swap Shop.  The idea is to
allow Ham operators looking for or wanting to sell
Pre 1970's Amateur Equipment of any kind...  List
you old AM gear, looking for older SSB equipment,
whatever...  Check it out... It is a FREE service for
fellow Ham Radio operators...

http://www.houck.com/ham

Tnx and 73's

Gregg WA3WNE



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Rask)
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Can anyone tell me a good price for a used IC471H. How much do i have to
pay for a IC471H with builtin PS35 powersupply. many thanks in advance
de SM7VHS /Martin



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:55 1996
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From: "John  L. Rouse" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
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[e-mail] (KB8RZV) wrote:
>Perhaps we do need some lessons in qsl manners. How many cards have you
>sent with an s.a.s.e. and still got no response.Maybe the lesson we need
>to learn is common courtesy.
>                                                                  73's
>                                                                   Allan
>KB8RZV

===
 A good point. As a QSL manager for various DX stations, I can tell you
that far too many new DXers assume no SASE is necessary to get the
DX station's QSL. Wrong! An SASE to a QSL manager is just basic
good manners. After all, I don't get paid for this voluntary chore,
despite the old canard about us QSL managers selling masses of IRCs for
trips to Europe and banking thousands of green stamps, etc.
 If you don't send an SASE, your QSL is not ignored -- it's sent to the
QSL bureau, of which many newcomers, alas, know nothing. So, it's a waste
of my time,
and yours. The SASE would have been more realistic.
 Interesting observation: For some strange reason, most Canadian stations
requesting a DX QSL card NEVER send an SASE, or an IRC, or even a loonie
dollar or what have you. I guess they assume that, being DX of sorts
themselves, they are exempt from the SASE requirement. Wrong. Lots of VE
cards go to the bureau.
 At any rate, I have yet to become so jaundiced in ham radio that QSLs
mean nothing. I love to get them. Several thousand for other folks,
though, don't stir the blood, hi..

73,
John KA3DBN/VP2EBN
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
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Subject: Re: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
Date: 22 Jan 1996 16:35:33 GMT
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I don't send them, and I don't keep the ones sent to me.  Of the 100
original ones I had made by the Little Print Shop in 1971, I have one
left that I display when selling at the swap meet - because it's required.
Most of the rest were lost when a water pipe broke in my house 20 years ago.
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:57 1996
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------------------------------------------------------
>The contact should be able to stand on its own merits.
------------------------------------------------------

Yes, this cannot be repeated often enough. But for the clubs a QSO only
exists when the "proof" in the form of a card is presented. As we know,
som "ham"s go as far as to offer substantial bribes to DXpeditions
(not to be confused with sponsoring or skeds) or actually forge cards.


Moritz DL5UH



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:17:58 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
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   After a lot of years in the hobby, I really don't need
another QSL card from Michigan or Germany or Japan or
Moscow.
   But I sure can remember when I really DID need those cards,
and I assume that whoever spent 32-cents to solicit a card
from me needs mine just as bad as I needed someone elses
"way back then".
   So everyone who sends me a card (for a valid contact) gets
a return card. If it comes with an SASE (or SAE and IRC) the
response goes out tomorrow.  If it comes via the "buro" it
goes out with my next shipment to Newington.  If it comes
"bare" with no return postage it goes out "next time I've
got a spare stamp". But they ALL do get answered.
   Between contesting, DXing, and casual operation I average
perhaps 7,000 contacts per year. I get perhaps 300 unsolicited
QSL's per year, roughly 25% of which come "bare" requiring me
to affix a 20-cent stamp. Figures out to $15.00 per year in
expense, and just a few scattered minutes of my time. Not a
big deal, and I'm glad to do it.
   But for the fellow who suggested a QSL should be REQUIRED
or the contact doesn't count -- sorry, but I'm ornery and
independent enough so that would be the day I quit QSLing
completely. (It's a hobby, not a religion!)


--
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
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Subject: Re: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
Date: 26 Jan 1996 03:07:02 GMT
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>   [e-mail] writes:

>  I can empathize with both points of view.  I too am a busy person (practici
ng
>  physician with 5 children, 3 of them under the age of 2!) who does most of
>  his operating in contests.  I don't like answering QSL's any more than the
>  next guy, and I suspect I probably have even less time for it than the ham
who
>  wrote the above.
>
>  OTOH, I have sent many QSL requests, WITH SASE, which were never responded
>  to in any way.  I seriously doubt if they threw my stamps away!  If the
>  contester doesn't have time to respond he should at least acknowledge the
>  requests which included an SASE, by returning the QSL if nothing else.
>  It will cost the contester nothing but a (small) part of his time.  Actuall
y
>  the amount of time needed to properly respond to a QSL request is not
>  as much as might be thought.  Most contesters anymore do computer logging,
>  and finding/verifying a contact takes very little time.  I keep ascii files
 of all
>  my logs on my hard drive, and using a program like Vern Buerg's LIST allows
>  me to search for a text string (i.e. the requester's callsign) in a split s
econd.
>  I think a more reasonable approach than the one proposed above is to answer
>  the ones which are properly submitted (with SASE) and ignore the rest.
>  If the requester wants it bad enough, he'll send again with an SASE.
>
>
>
>  Flame away, the asbestos suit is on!  73 - Alan
>

wow..as we say here in the East..what a pair of ca hon nays

on 1 hand..i don;t like to qsl, so there for i usually don;t

on the other hand, i think its rude that someone who doesn't qsl should at lea
st send my card back????

quite frankly, i keep your calls on file.  should i ever go somewhere you need
 and work you..oopppss N.I.L

(not in log) so sorry

steve


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
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Subject: Re: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
Date: 26 Jan 1996 03:54:58 GMT
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This is a little disturbing.  When I first read the term
"unsolicited QSL", I had to stop and think for a minute...this is a
curious concept, indeed.  And this "unsolicited QSL" is a bad thing?
A sign of bad manners?  Lets back up a minute.

It used to be said that a QSL card was the final courtesy of a
QSO.  During most of my ham career, sending a card seemed to be
considered part of the responsibility one accepted when making a
contact.  Sending a card ("unsolicited") was (and still is IMO) just
common courtesy.  And checking the "PSE QSL" box simply means you'd be
happy if the other person could do the same, nothing more, nothing
less.  Equating an "unsolicited QSL card" with "junk mail" is very
sad.

I can understand that some people do not have the time to respond to a
request for a card, and that's a decision they must make and others
must accept and understand, but it's a serious decision.  However,
this idea that someone who sends you their card after a contact is
somehow exhibiting bad manners just because you didn't explicitly say
it was ok is just plain wrong-headed.

I don't send out QSLs to domestic contacts anymore unless the other
station sends theirs and requests mine.  But if I could not afford
the time or postage to at least reciprocate, then I would have to
change my operating habits (or find a way around the problem).
For lack of a better aphorism: "If you can't do the time,
don't do the crime."

When I drive up to do a contest from rare North Dakota, I do expect
people to use some common sense and send an SASE if they can, but I
know there will be lots of cards without.  But still...if I can't do
the card, I don't do the contact...

Bottom line (personal opinion only):
1) If you do not QSL, or if you require an SASE, be up front about
it during the QSO if possible.
2) If you choose not to respond to "unsolicited QSLs" (I hate that
term), do not keep them. Return them with a "sorry" note (if an
SASE is enclosed) or throw them away. (By the way, simply
rubber-stamping *their* QSL with "QSO confirmed" and your initials and
returning it to them at least gives them a valid confirmation.)
3) Loose the attitude that those who send you a QSL are bad-mannered
louts.  They spent their time and money to send you their card thinking
you might like it and hoping you might reciprocate.
4) If time and money are a problem, find a way around it.  QSL cards
are all part of the game.

Sorry for being such a long-winded OF.

Greg



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From: [e-mail] (mike witkowski)
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Arthur Burke)
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Speaking as a semi-serious county hunter/contester/DXer (mostly from when
I didn't live in yuppieville!), I found out years ago how to handle the
types who don't QSL. Get yourself a reasonable supply of postcards, have
a rubber stamp made up with whatever your requirements are, etc. At the
bottom of the postcard (obviously on the same side with all the QSO
information, etc.) put a "signature line" for the operator to sign.
Address the postcard to yourself (pre-affixed with appropriate postage,
of course) and mail it to the guy (or YL, whatever). All the other
station has to do is verify the info (if they so desire), sign it, and
stick it back in the mail at their convenience.

When I was seriously hunting counties (there are over 3,000 of them!) and
prefixes for CQ magazine's WPX awards, I used this technique with
astounding success. I would be hard pressed to identify more than a half
dozen operators in a ten year stretch who did no return my card. Many
hams not only returned the hand-made card, they also sent me one of their
own cards!

The only QSL problem I can't figure out how to handle is the one I expect
to be in myself in a few years. I intend to retire into an RV and live
pretty much "on the road" until we (my wife and I) can't do it anymore. I
certainly can't conceive how I'm going to have cards chasing me around
the country! Uh-oh, a not-so-novel idea just popped up. How many domestic
stations have QSL managers? :-)

Art Burke
Lenexa, KS
NE4F



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carroll J Shelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiqutte]
Date: 24 Jan 1996 19:14:52 GMT
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After reading a post from one contestor that he never replies
to QSLs for contest QSOs, I would be curious about the habits
of other US contesters.  Do you respond to QSLs for contest QSOs?
(I understand the special circumstances of DX stations, I'm
just asking about US contesters here.)

I believe that quite a few non-contesters make contest contacts
in the search for new states for WAS, etc.  I had thought that
such contacts were welcome, as otherwise contesters would be
kind of limited in their contact total - there are only so
many fellow contesters to talk to, no?

BTW, I do understand that you need even us non-contest types
to know the exchange, not to try to start a ragchew, etc.

Now, the message I get from a contester who says he doesn't
QSL is "Go away, don't bother me, I just want to hear from
other serious contesters."  Fair enough, if that's what you
really want.

Is this the typical viewpoint of US contesters today?
Or is it an exception?

                Jeff Shelton/KS4TL



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In <4e60fc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Carroll J Shelton) wr
ites:
>After reading a post from one contestor that he never replies
>to QSLs for contest QSOs, I would be curious about the habits
>of other US contesters.  Do you respond to QSLs for contest QSOs?
>(I understand the special circumstances of DX stations, I'm
>just asking about US contesters here.)
>
I'm a fairly active contester, and I do (eventually) reply to all QSL requests
 I
receive.  I too started out as an awards chaser, and in fact still do some
QSL'ing for that reason...anyone in Delaware, South Dakota, West Virginia or
Nebraska who'd like to work me on 15 so's I can finish my 5B-WAS I'd love
to hear from you!

Seriously though, I will respond immediately to QSL requests which are
accompanied by an SASE; I respond when I get around to it, which may
be months or days depending on how busy I am, to those which do not
have SASE's.  It doesn't matter to me whether I worked the person in a
contest or otherwise.

73 - Alan Braun NS0B


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Schwartz)
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Subject: Re: QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiqutte]
Date: 25 Jan 1996 05:29:14 GMT
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Carroll J Shelton ([e-mail]) wrote:
: After reading a post from one contestor that he never replies
: to QSLs for contest QSOs, I would be curious about the habits
: of other US contesters.  Do you respond to QSLs for contest QSOs?
: (I understand the special circumstances of DX stations, I'm
: just asking about US contesters here.)

As long as I get a SASE, I always reply.  In fact, the QSL usually goes
out the same day it's received.  QSL's received without a SASE go in the
garbage can.  I'm talking about cards rcvd from US stations here.

DX QSL's get returned via the bureau, unless they are rcvd direct with
return postage.


: Is this the typical viewpoint of US contesters today?
: Or is it an exception?

I think it's the exception.  In fact one very active station that I
regularly operate DX contests from QSL's all unique band/QSO's after every
contest, through the bureau.

--
73,
Gary K9GS    (You have to STOP the Q-Tip when there's resistance !)
         ________________________________________________________________
        |                                                                |
        | Gary Schwartz  K9GS           E-Mail: [e-mail] |
        | Society of Midwest Contesters   Packet:[e-mail] |
        | Greater Milwaukee DX Association Secretary/Treasurer           |
        |________________________________________________________________|





From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:07 1996
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From: Jim McCrary - KE4SKI <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Radio Club Home Page
Date: 24 Jan 1996 16:19:07 GMT
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  The Birmingham Amateur Radio Club of Birmingham, Alabama has a World
Wide Web Home page located at:

http://www.bro.net/barc

  Hamfest information is also available.
--
****************************
*   Jim McCrary - KE4SKI   *
****************************


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:08 1996
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 13:20:28 PST
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Subject: RB414 Emergency Mgt, Mutual Aid, 2/6

To:   Emergency Management Agencies via Amateur Radio
Info: Communications Volunteers in Government Service
Info: Amateurs U.S. (@usa:Information), ACS, CAP, MARS, RACES
By:   Auxiliary Communications Service (ACS), the volunteer
      communications reserve of the State of California
      Governor's Office of Emergency Services

Bulletin 414: MGT - Mutual Aid defined; for Release 1/22/96

Query: In the context of the OA, define Mutual Aid.

Response:  Mutual Aid is a statewide system to ensure that
adequate resources are provided to jurisdictions whenever their
own resources prove to be inadequate to cope with a disaster. In
most states, as in California, the local jurisdiction is the one
that is responsible for the emergency response. In the mode of
neighbor helping neighbor, cities and counties, and then the
state and federal governments, assist one another through an
incremental and progressive system of resource mobilization.
Mutual Aid is activated in an ascending order: local, county
(operational area), region, ending with state and federal
governments.

In recent years the mutual aid system has developed beyond the
traditional law and fire functional areas. This extension of
mutual aid beyond its discipline-specific (traditional) areas is
an outgrowth of experience in a variety of disasters. Cities and
counties may activate Emergency Operations Centers (EOCs) in
response to disasters. Depending on the nature and magnitude of
the event, a countywide response may be needed to mobilize assets
from the county and its component cities. In some states, in
addition to cities and counties, special districts are a form of
local government that provides specific services, such as water,
regional transportation, waste disposal, etc. In an emergency
several such districts may support other similar districts
adversely affected by an event. On the county-wide level the OA
facilitates this coordination - as a single point of contact -
for the special districts which may be represented in the city
and/or county EOCs.

Next week: More on Mutual Aid.

Are the new EMCOMM Bulletins being filed on your BBS?? If not,
Please ask your Sysop to create an EMCOMM file section for them
so we can change the "RACES" Bulletins to EMCOMM. Thanks!! Cary.

Bulletin archive:  ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming

W6WWW@KM6PX.#NOCAL.USA.NA.  e-mail [e-mail]  EOM RB414



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,misc.forsale.non-computer
Subject: Read if dealing with Peter Short, KD6DKD, Grass Valley, CA
Date: 26 Jan 1996 01:12:28 GMT
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I am not condemning this person, just telling a story.  Make your
own conclusions...

I'd put up for sale a Radio Shack HTX-100 and we haggled and arrived
at a price that included COD shipping.  I sent the radio at my expense
via UPS to his address in Grass Valley, CA, on 11/13/95.

Delivery was attemped three times starting on 11/21, and the box was
summarily returned to me.  He never returned my calls (I always had to
call back if I wanted to ask him anything), but did indicate that "kids
take the slips off doors, his neighbors did see a slip but he never
got it, and they were away during those days."

So did he just "forget" that it was coming???

He apologized and asked me to send it again, COD, for $15 more than
before (stupid me), covering my loss.  I stupidly said yes.

I sent it out on 12/7 via UPS ground again, at a cost of ~$15 to me.

On or around Christmas Day, I called him and he indicated it was received
and all was well.  On 1/10/96, i called UPS to see where my money was.
The radio was STILL IN WILL CALL.  Upon talking to Mr. Short, he said he'd
given the money to his parents to get the radio, and that he'd call them,
and call me right back.  UPS sent the package back to me that evening.

AGAIN, I had to call him (waited 24 hours) and he told me his father
has cancer and that may have had something to do with it.  He took
my address and said he'd mail a check immediately.  That was 1/12/96
and I got the radio back 4 days later.  His check would make resti-
tution for BOTH mess-ups, and he still wanted the radio.

SO it's been 12 days; I've gotten mail from San Francisco in 2-3 days,
including one piece this week.  2 nights ago (1/23) I AGAIN called Mr.
Short and told him the check still wasn't here.  He said "I sent it
Certified Mail," and that he'd check with the Post Office and call me
at 9 p.m. EST (he picked the time!).

I checked with MY Post Office and they haven't had had ANY certified
mail for my block in the last two weeks.  I waited until 11 p.m. EST
for Mr. Short to call (the phone was free from 8 until 11) and he didn't.
It's been another 24 hours and still not a peep...

So I am still waiting for my check.  What burns me is that he has not
specifically stolen anything from me (I still have my radio!) except:

1)  My time (2 months)
2)  COD shipping to CA times TWO ($30.00)
3)  Phone calls (maybe 6 calls to CA)
4)  Untold frustation in dealing with someone who obviously can't complete
    a simple transaction, and
5)  My trust - this is the hardest to regain

There may be perfectly wonderful explanations for all of this, but
Mr. Short hasn't given me any of them.  Just consider my story when
considering dealing with him...

P.S. If the money shows, I'll post a note to that effect.
--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440
** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas **
Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles...
72 & 73 from suburban DC  301-549-1022 (h)  301-982-1015 (w)


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PWilson521)
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Subject: Re: Richmond Frostfest
Date: 25 Jan 1996 11:19:46 -0500
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I don't know who told you there were no VE people available, but I for one
asked if anyone needed help and was told NO.  I was even willing to
coordinate the session.

N0RDQ


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: RTTY "Reflector"??
Date: 21 Jan 1996 10:44:57 -0500
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In article <4dfops$[e-mail]>,
Peter Reed <[e-mail]> wrote:
)Hi all. So we have contest, ct, DX, topband, VHF and others Reflectors.
)Does anyone know if there is one for RTTY and, if so, what the address
)is?
)
)Thanks,
)
)Peter, G4BVH
)
)e-mail: [e-mail]
)

Here are the addresses for the RTTY contest reflector. Enjoy!

Submissions:              [e-mail]
Administrative requests:  [e-mail]

--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ashtabula2)
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Subject: RTTY FREQ question
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Hello ALl,

     I am currently a newbie to RTTY (bout an hour <G>) , I was wondering
if any1 had a list or some "very active freqs that I could possible try.

     Any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED....

73's
Jeff


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:13 1996
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From: Helmut Strickner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Soundcard spectrum analyzer software?
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[e-mail] (MHM) wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (DY HEINRICH) wrote:
>>RRRath ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>: There are several-the best I have tried are:
>>: freq4.zip -on Simtel works graet especially with Pro Audio Spectrum 16 ,
>>: up to 80 db dynamics, rapid online
>>
>>: cool152.zip -- offline up to 120db
>>: hpwfft1.zip offline demo up t0 140 db
>>
>>
>>Where can we find these last two?  I have been on the lookout for these
>>two for some time now.
>>
>>Heinrich
>>[e-mail]
>


Hi Heinrich,

You can find HpW Works - hpwfft1.zip on compuserve or on any elrad
magazine mirror in area 30.

I personally think that HpW Works is the best shareware/demo package on
the internet if you are mainly interested in FFT analysis to >-100db. It
works with most soundcards, 512 points in demo version, up to 1,048,576
points in licenced version. Also a number of drivers are available from
the author for various professional cards like hard disk recording, etc.

It is a must to have a look at this software if you are serious about FFT
analysis.

Try ftp.ix.de - magazine elrad/030/hpwfft1.zip - If I remember right.

COOL152 offers a lot of sound manipulating functions but the spectrum
analysis is not very professional and inaccurate. Otherwise a nice
program.

Helmut Strickner

VK4STR




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:15 1996
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From: [e-mail] (David Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Soundcard spectrum analyzer software?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:02:25 GMT
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[e-mail] (MHM) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (DY HEINRICH) wrote:
>>RRRath ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>: There are several-the best I have tried are:
>>: freq4.zip -on Simtel works graet especially with Pro Audio Spectrum 16 ,
>>: up to 80 db dynamics, rapid online
>>
>>: cool152.zip -- offline up to 120db
>>: hpwfft1.zip offline demo up t0 140 db
>>
>>
>>Where can we find these last two?  I have been on the lookout for these
>>two for some time now.
>>
>>Heinrich
>>[e-mail]

>Odd, it took me .69 seconds to find these sites...

>ftp.pacificorp.com
>       /.0/win3/sound/cool152.zip

<long list snipped>

Hmm ... Some folks have never heard of search engines ;-\



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Eversoll)
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Subject: Standard Amateur Radio Service
Date: 24 Jan 1996 11:29:49 -0500
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I thought the net might like to know a little about Standard Amateur Radio
and the way they treat their customers after the warranty expires.

I own a Standard 5718DA dual band mobile -- you know, the one with all the
controls in the microphone.  I don't work for Standard; I'm just a customer
like many of you.

My radio was purchased in November 1994.  In December of this year, the
main band display began to "blink" periodically and would not permit
transmission or reception in the main band.  I called Standard's Tech Support
number (WARNING:  The number shown for this in the latest AES catalog is
incorrect; just dial the "normal" Standard number) regarding my problem since
a full reset of the transceiver did not clear the problem.

I spoke with Roger at Standard.  Described my problem with the radio.  I
expected to have to return it to a facility for an estimate of repair.
Instead, Roger inquired as to the warranty status, which I explained had
expired.  Roger indicated my problem would be handled under warranty and
told me where to send the transceiver for service.

I did so and one week later, my transceiver was returned.  Well, not my
transceiver but a new one from stock.  All this on a radio that was easily
one month beyond warranty.  So while many companies COULD stick to the terms
of the warranty agreement (that's all that's required) Standard exceeded what
was required by a far margin.

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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:17 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
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Subject: The Whole story!
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One of the amateur bulletins recently played statistician
and suggested that the new codeless technicians were content
settle for their new entry class license and stay at that
level. This assumption was based on the fact that the
next "higher" class license (Tech+) only gained
a small percentage of the influx of newcomers. The conclusion
was erroneous because it ignored all those who upgraded
BEYOND Tech+.  Lets look at "the rest of the story".

Below is a comparison of increases in the top three
license grades for the five-year period preceeding "no-code"
and the four-year period since "no-code".

           86-91     91-95
Extra     11,711    19,734
Advanced   4,655    14,449
General    1,424    11,653
Total     17,790    45,836

(Note that these numbers are the increases for each period,
not the total number of licensees in each class.)

The surge in the "top three" since 1991 is phenomenal!
Note that the rate of increase for General was 818%
higher, Advanced was 310% higher, and Extra was 168%
higher in the four years after "no-code" than the
five years immediately prior to the new license class.

Clearly this new entry license has acted to "feed" the
higher classes of license, and considering that the
"oldest" no-code license is not yet even 5 years old,
we can expect an acceleration of this trend as they
gain experience, and the upswing in the sunspot cycle
attracts more of them to the excitement of world-wide
HF communications.

73, de Hans, K0HB




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:18 1996
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By George, you're right! I stand corrected... But then, I grew up with
valves! What do I know.

73--Terry/WB4FXD



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:19 1996
From: [e-mail] (Hans Brakob)
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1 -- For info on operating in the UK, contact the ARRL Regulatory
Info Desk.  We do have an agreement with the UK, but I don't recall
the paperwork involved.  Be advised that their 2-meter band is
not the same as ours, and also that European repeaters generally
require a tone burst (1750Hz, not "PL") to bring them up.

2 -- You will NOT be able to transmit from the cabin of a scheduled
commercial passenger flight.  The FAA took away "captains choice"
rule several years ago.

Have a nice trip.

73, de Hans, K0HB




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Al Jaras)
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Subject: W.T.B. USED ROTOR
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SUBJECT: W.T.B. USED ROTOR
Looking for a used rotor- Tailtwister - or similar heavy duty rotor. My
rotor was damadeg by heavy winds and the TH-7 was windmilling in the top
of the tower with enuff force to snap my RG-213 coax. Please leave a msg
for me via E-MAIL i you have a heavy duty rotor that you are willing to
part with.
Tnx for reading this msg.  de AL / NA1I


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  NA1I    [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:20 1996
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From: Kevin Johnson <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 02:18:28 -0600
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KC5CYY and myself have worked some long hours putting together a home
page for our club.  We are especially proud of the "biography" section.

If you like County Hunters, then you need to visit K5CKQ's bio on our
page.

The address is: rattler.cameron.edu:/ham/ham.html

Don Hagler (K5CKQ) is under the members-email info subpage

73's
N5WTS


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:21 1996
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Greetings,

My brother-n-law (KI7XQ) is looking for about 3 feet of 72 ohm twin lead.
He is working on an antenna project of some kind that requires the 72
ohm twin lead for a balun.

Any ideas would be appreciated.  Please respond via e-mail if possible.

Thanks and 73,

Gary (N5PHT)


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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (tony)
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check out our web page!!!!
http://www.users.fast.net/~n3itn
if you like it and want a link drop us some mail
thanks  tony and michele



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Gudgel)
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean?
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For what it's worth, there is a town in Washington state with the name
Seaque (Spelling I'm sure is wrong) but is pronounced "CQ".

Bob Gudgel  KI7IQ  http://www.eskimo.com/~bgudgel




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean?
Date: 23 Jan 1996 12:18:33 GMT
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>It's original use was on board ship.  It is the general call to quarters for
>radio operators.  Quarters being the radio console in the old days, there
>was always a bed and bath in the radio mans office.

I read a while ago, that CQ was used *long before* radios were even dreamed
of. Initially it was used in wire telegrafy for general anouncements.

73, Moritz DL5UH



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Always thought it stood for SEEK YOU

John Adams




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Darren)
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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 07:07:25 GMT
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In article <4dia4o$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Actually I believe SEEK YOU is correct.  Actually, I can't prove
>my point, but I doubt you can either.  A QST article sometime in
>95 - The Ham Companion says SEEK YOU was the origin of CQ.

There`s a 1930`s film about two canadians in their log cabin who are held
hostage by some Germans (I think) anyway, they call some other Canadians
by calling "Seek you, Seek you this is Blah Blah Blah..."

                   http://www.tcp.co.uk/~moonraker/
or via packet G0TSM@GB7XJZ.#48.GBR.EU  or my mailbox G0TSM-2 144.675MHz



From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Arjen Raateland)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean?
Date: 23 Jan 96 20:06:40 EET
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger) writes:
>
> It's original use was on board ship.  It is the general call to quarters for
> radio operators.  Quarters being the radio console in the old days, there
> was always a bed and bath in the radio mans office.  Since most don't bother
> to learn code anymore, you need to know what it sounds like to have it make
> any sense.  It's use in ham radio because there was no standard at the time.

> Since most hams at the time where ship board radio people, they simply used
> what that had always used.  Over the years it was adopted by hams due to the
> way it sounds, and not based on it's meaning.
>

An ITU publication on Mobile Marine Communications or some such (I
don't have the copy at hand) has a table of Morse code, which clearly
lists CQ as a procedural sign. I cannot remember exactly what was
given as the meaning of CQ, but it was pretty much like in HAM use, I
think. So CQ is clearly part of a standard nowadays.

As I understand the table CQ is supposed to be keyed as one sign
without letter space. However, my CMOS Super Keyer III cannot store
such a long sign; instead it stores something which is mutilated....

--... ...-- -.. . --- .... ..--- --.. .- --..
Arjen Raateland, SAS Support
Finnish Environment Agency
Helsinki, Finland
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From: [e-mail] (Norm Commo)
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Subject: Re: What does CQ mean???
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:16:49 GMT
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Well, I think we have as much chance of resolving this as we do in resolving
the etymology of the word "ham" as we use it.  Having said that here's my two
cents worth of fat on the fire!  I seem to remember reading (don't remember
where since it was around 35 years ago) that "CQ" was an acronym for a French
expression of idiom for "general inquiry".  Tis ring a bell with anyone.

73s
-ricK1log


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get radio spectrum chart?
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In article <4e44ju$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dean Youngquist) writes:
>Where would I find a chart or list showing which frequencies are allocated
>to what services and what are the boundaries.  I'm pretty familiar with
>the ham bands but I've forgotten what I used to know about the rest of the
>radio spectrum.


>Dean Youngquist, [e-mail], N7LPE
>428 N.W. 9th Street, Corvallis, Oregon 97330-6133
>tel: [phone], fax: [phone]

Your MOTOROLA SEMICONDUCTOR sales rep can give you a nice wall chart.  It
doesn't show precise frequency boundaries, but gives a nice color display
showing generally which services occupy which spectrum.  It is valid mainly
for US allocations, of course.

***********************************************************
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ver)
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WTB a GPS unit.

Prefer a Garmin or Ensign Scout.

Let me know.

                                 Ver


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:32 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "ver" writes:

> WTB a GPS unit.
>
> Prefer a Garmin or Ensign Scout.

FYI, the Ensign and the Scout are similar models made by Trimble Navigation.

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roland Geter sr)
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Subject: WTB: KENWOOD TS-440S - ANY COND!
Date: 25 Jan 1996 04:31:34 GMT
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Will pay cash and shipping for a KENWOOD TS-440S/AT in ANY, I repeat, ANY
working condition.  Just as long as it is FAIRLY working!  COSMETICS IS
ABSOLUTELY  NO CONSIDERATION!!!  Call 800-399-4383 x765 24hrs
-
ROLAND S GETER SR
[e-mail]
800-399-4383 x765 24hrs




From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Swynford)
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Subject: Re: Yaesu 530 Tone Burst ?
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1750 Hz is not too difficult to whistle, particularly if you
make a slow sweeping whistle from 1 to 3 kHz...

My local repeater GB3BK idents in CW tones of 1750 Hz. If you
can whistle at the same pitch you can bring the repeater up.

Peter
G0PUB
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From [e-mail] Fri Jan 26 14:18:35 1996
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From: william@cortex (William Biggs)
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Subject: Yaesu 530 Tone Burst ?
Date: 21 Jan 1996 23:12:40 GMT
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Hello all,

I am contemplating a trip to the  United Kingdom this summer, and would
like to be able to use our FT530 HTs.  I can handle getting the
reciprocal license, but how do I use the tone bursts to open the
repeaters there?

Does the Yaesu have this built in ? I don't see this in the  manual.

Is there an external tone generator that will do this ?

Perhaps some of our European friends can help us understand how this works.

Also, I have a portable HF rig that I can bring, but I am concerned that
I might not have any antenna space living out of hotels. Has anybody done
this in England ?

Thanks, Reddy Biggs
KC5JIF - US
ZF2CB - Cayman Islands


--
William C. Biggs
                            Howdy from the High Plains of Texas
1900 South Coulter Drive
Amarillo, TX 79106


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:28 1996
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From: "Aimee C. Parham" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:07:07 -0500
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I am looking for information about what one must do in order to be
licensed to operate a ham radio.  My father is coming back from Korea in
about 6 months and I am trying to find a place in the Augusta, Georgia
area for him to learn the basics.  Any information would be greatly
appreciated.

ACParham


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:29 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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In article <4e6lsi$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Robert L. Morrison" writes:

> In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
> says...

> >You mean tune *up* don't you? The only two code-only subbands in all
> >of amateur radio are 50.0-50.1 MHz and 144.0-144.1 MHz, and guess what,
> >you don't need to pass a Morse test to use them.

> There are more than two cw only bands in the United States,

You claim that there are some more Morse Code only sub-bands in the FCC
schedule but not where they are.  Are you keeping them secret :-(

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:32 1996
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From: "Dana H. Myers" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
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"Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]>
>           [e-mail] "Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr" writes:
>
>> In article <[e-mail]>, "Anthony R. Gold"
>>  <[e-mail]> writes:
>> > You claim that there are some more Morse Code only sub-bands in the FCC
>> > schedule but not where they are.  Are you keeping them secret :-(
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > --
>> >    Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
>>
>> 30 meters
>
>        97.305 Authorized emission types. - (a) An amateur station may
>transmit a CW emission on any frequency authorized to the control
>operator.
>
>Wave-                        Emission                   Standards.
>length                       types                      See 97.307(f)
>band       Frequencies       authorized                 paragraph
>
>MF
>HF
>30 m    Entire band         RTTY,  data                 (3)
>
>        97.307 Emission standards. -
>
>          (f)  (3)     Only a RTTY or data emission using a specified
>digital code listed in 97.309(a) of this part may be transmitted.  The
>symbol rate must not exceed 300 bauds, or for frequency-shift keying, the
>frequency shift between mark and space must not exceed 1 kHz.
>
>[Those `specified codes' include Baudot, ASCII, AMTOR and certain others.]


The only USA CW-only allocations are 50.0-50.1MHz and 144.0-144.1MHz.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
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Vincent Biancomano <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In response to John Wilkerson:
>Phil Karn's calculations appear to be correct. But unfortunately,
>in the context of defending the no-code issue, those calculations
>solve a different problem than the one under discussion!

No, they don't.

>While it can be demonstrated there are modes more "efficient"
>than cw, the task is to show that eliminating the Morse Code,
>and easing requirements in general for the theory exams, will
>benefit the Amateur Service. Those anxious to eliminate Morse
>Code would do well to first see how it will impact other activities
>in the Service. Those interested in easing theory requirements
>into the hobby would do well to ponder whether they seek a
>personal radio service, or Amateur Radio.

What's your point, really, Vince?  Are you trying to say:

"Any reduction in the Morse code requirements inherently eases the
requirements for written exams."

Is this the basis of your assertions?  If not, we really can discuss
Morse and written requirements independently.

--
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *
 * [phone]               | mine and do not necessarily   *
 * [e-mail]      | reflect those of my employer  *



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:34 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get radio spectrum chart?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 13:33:36 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
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The U.S. Government printing office also use to sell such a chart.

Gary



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:36 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Controller codes for Kenwood/Yeasu/Icom/Drake
Date: 25 Jan 1996 13:36:55 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
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ICOM America sells a book titled " CI-V Reference Manual for $ 15.00 plus
shipping and handling.  You can call their parts dept at 206-454-7619 and
press ' 3 ' on your Touch tone phone when the automated system answers, or
fax parts at 206-450-6044, lastly ICOM's front dest is 206-454-8155.  The
CI-V Reference manual has all the command set except for the latest radios
where ICOM has now started to include the commands into the instruction
manual for the radio.

Gary



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:37 1996
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From: "Gary P. Fiber" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Icom service.  Where?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 13:38:22 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
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I would suggest sending the radio to one of our service centers,
along with a letter explaining the difficulties you are
experiencing with the radio.  You may send your radio to one of our
service centers at the following addresses:

ICOM America, Inc.            ICOM America, Inc.
2380 116th Ave. N.E.          18102 Sky Park South No. 52-B
Bellevue, WA 98004            Irvine, CA 92714
Attn: Service Department      Attn: Service Department

Tel:[phone]            Tel:[phone]

At this time, I am unable to give you a quote on what the charges
will be to repair your radio.  We can give you a quote once we
receive the radio and a technician can evaluate the extent of the
repairs. For a guideline, our repair charges are calculated at the
rate of $65.00 per hour with a minimum of (1) one hour of labor,
plus parts and return shipping.

We do charge a fee of $25.00 for refused estimates or for out of warranty
radios that have no problem found when presented for repair.

Shipping charges will depend on the method of shipment.  We accept
Master Card, Visa, M.O. and UPS C.O.D. for payment of parts orders.
Please contact me if I can be of further assistance.

Best regards,
Gary KF7XV
Senior Technical Customer Service Representative



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:38 1996
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From: /PN=Scott.C.Werling/O=wallace/PRMD=iadps/ADMD=attmail/C=us/@safe.ia.GOV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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Date: 25 Jan 96 15:47:36 GMT
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>From /PN=Scott.C.Werling/O=wallace/PRMD=iadps/ADMD=attmail/C=us/ Thu Jan 25 0
9:53:41 CST 1996 remote from osiint.safe.ia.gov
Date: 25 Jan 1996 09:48:08 -0600
X400-Trace: US*ATTMAIL*IADPS
        arrival 25 Jan 1996 09:48:08 -0600
        action Relayed
From: /PN=Scott.C.Werling/O=wallace/PRMD=iadps/ADMD=attmail/C=us/@osiint.safe.
ia.gov
To: "/RFC-822=Info-Hams(a)ucsd.edu/OU=OSI-INTERNET/O=WALLACE/PRMD=IADPS/ADMD=A
TTMAIL/C=US/"@osiint.safe.ia.gov
In-Reply-To: <"\"/RFC-822=199601250042.QAA10464(a)mail.ucsd.edu/OU=OSI-INTERNE
T/O=WALLACE/PRMD=IADPS/ADMD=ATTMAIL/C=US/\""@osiint.safe.ia.gov>
Subject: FS equipment listserver?
Importance: normal
Autoforwarded: FALSE
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tmail/C=us/@osiint.safe.ia.gov>
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Anyone know of a listserver that I could subscribe to for sale/trade specifica
lly for ham equipment?   I only have e-mail capabilities at this
account.

Scott
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
Subject: Re: RTTY FREQ question
Message-ID: <4edmuj$[e-mail]>
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Organization: Daniel Senie Consulting
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 17:21:23 GMT

In article <4e7qo6$[e-mail]>,
Ashtabula2 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hello ALl,
>
>     I am currently a newbie to RTTY (bout an hour <G>) , I was wondering
>if any1 had a list or some "very active freqs that I could possible try.
>
>     Any help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED....

RTTY is mostly in these spots:

        28.080 - 28.100 (not important at this time, due to dead band)
        21.080 - 21.100
        14.080 - 14.090
         7.035 - 7.040   (DX and DX-North America)
         7.080 - 7.090   (North america, but difficult on the east coast)
         3.580 - 3.625

Note that ARQ modes (amtor, pactor, gtor, clover) are generally just below the
RTTY spaces. It is considered impolite to use the ARQ modes in 14.080 to
14.090, for example, but 14.065 - 14.090 are fine. HF packet is normally just
above the RTTY bands. Again it is not polite to put the wide packet signals
across the RTTY bands.

--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:40 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Icom service.  Where?
Date: 25 Jan 96 13:11:51 GMT
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Dave,
        Try giving ICOM a e-mail shout at the following address's:
http://www.icomamerica.com  (or) [e-mail]  (or)  ICOM Technica
l
support in the HamNet forum on CompuServe @ 75540.525

Maybe they can direct to service in your area.
        Hope this helps you

73
TONY
N2TRV


Date: 24 Jan 96 15:17:11 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Icom service.  Where?

Can anyone point me to an authorized Icom Service center for me to send my Ico
m
736 for repair.  Deaf receiver.  It would be nice to find a place within the
New England region (so I can hand carry) but will ship it if needed.  Thanks.
David Bourque WB1FLD
email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:41 1996
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From: Gary [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need Collins ART-13 info
Date: 30 Jan 1996 01:42:34 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (KCKM) writes:
>  Looking for information an a Collins ART-13 Autotune transmitter. Please
>  E-mail at [e-mail]    Thank you
>  Ken Johnson
>   WB8VTW
>
>
Ken........Let me know what you want to know.   I've been working with ART 13s
since the 60's.

                                            "73" Gary KF9CM [e-mail]










From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:42 1996
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Do we REALLY need to see this type of thing in rec.pyrotechnics?!?!?





From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 20:01:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Newsline: poor math
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In article <4e897q$[e-mail]>, 72527.01012@compuserve.
com ([e-mail]) writes:
>
>>Newsline, the weekly bulletin from WA6ITF, et. al, recently
>>made a big deal of the fact that since 1991, the Tech+ class
>>had only grown by about 10,000 folks. Their conclusion was
>>that this proves that only 10,000 codeless tech had upgraded
>>their license.
>
>>Their position totally ignores the growth of the "top three"
>>(General, Advanced, and Extra) classes during the same period.
>>Those classes grew, not by 10,000, but by almost 46,000 since
>>1991.  So the total upgrade traffic is not 10,000, but just
>>under 56,000! Further, the largest "gainer" was Extra class.
>
>
>I agree! I think there is an attitude that people assume that a no-code
>tech is automatically going to up-grade to tech plus. Last year when I was
>in a VE session to up-grade my license, there were two no-coders who
>jumped past tech plus. They both passed their 13 wpm code test, one
>passed General written and one went all the way to Advanced!
>
>73 from Steve
>
>


I think that you should also look at where Newsline got the information.  It
would not suprise me at all if the F.C.C. records reflect only 10,000
upgraded hams.  Since the F.C.C. records are the only ones that matter,
maybe someone should look into it.



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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 25 Jan 96 14:31:42 EST
References: <[e-mail]> <4e6lsi$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Distribution: world
Organization: North American Drager - Telford, PA
Lines: 14

In article <[e-mail]>, "Anthony R. Gold" <tgold@micro
vst.demon.co.uk> writes:
> You claim that there are some more Morse Code only sub-bands in the FCC
> schedule but not where they are.  Are you keeping them secret :-(
>
> Regards,
> --
>    Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]

30 meters

Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:46 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: 25 Jan 1996 15:06:28 GMT
Organization: MicroBurst
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Message-ID: <4e869k$be2$[e-mail]>
References: <4e6lsi$[e-mail]>

Gary said:

>The only two code-only subbands in all
>of amateur radio are 50.0-50.1 MHz and 144.0-144.1 MHz,
>and guess what, you don't need to pass a Morse test to
>use them.

Bob replied:

>Gary: There are more than two cw only bands in the
>United States, and several cw, rtty, and data only.

Garys' statement is correct. Those two segments are the
only two which the FCC has reserved solely for CW. While
there certainly are band plans by which we "organize"
our use of the bands, these have no official sanction
at FCC.  You can legally, so long as you don't maliciously
interfere, use CW anywhere in the ham bands. (Not very
smart maybe, but not illegal.)

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
-- My homepage is at:
   "http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/k0hb"

-- It's still a hardhat area... under construction


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mickey McInnis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Finding a ham operator.
Date: 26 Jan 1996 22:15:46 GMT
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In article <4e6jll$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jean
 S. Hall) writes:
> How do I go about finding somebody local who is a ham?
>

Where's "local", i.e. what city, and why do you want to find a ham?
--
Mickey McInnis - [e-mail]
--
All opinions expressed are my own opinions, not my company's opinions.


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (robert atkins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Finding a ham operator.
Date: 25 Jan 1996 01:06:27 GMT
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Ask at the reference desk of your local library.


Jean S. Hall ([e-mail]) wrote:
: How do I go about finding somebody local who is a ham?



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Robert A. Klahn)
Subject: Re: Finding a ham operator.
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Jean S. Hall ([e-mail]) wrote:
: How do I go about finding somebody local who is a ham?

If you have access to the World Wide Web, try the following URL:

http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign.html

And look for hams in the same zip code as you.

--
Robert A. Klahn       KE6OQV            [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:49 1996
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From: Gary Watts <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Finding a ham operator.
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 07:08:16 -0600
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Robert,

Very GOOD reply. I was going to advise the same thing ?

This would be his best bet I would say

TTYL

Gary Watts de N0OXV
Kansas City Mo
81 GL1100I


On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Robert A. Klahn wrote:

> Jean S. Hall ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : How do I go about finding somebody local who is a ham?
>
> If you have access to the World Wide Web, try the following URL:
>
> http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign.html
>
> And look for hams in the same zip code as you.
>
> --
> Robert A. Klahn       KE6OQV            [e-mail]
>
>
>


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:50 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Finding a ham operator.
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 96 01:05:26 GMT
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You could also hire a P.I.











From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:51 1996
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.chatlink.com!netaccess
Date: 28 Jan 1996 22:11:00 PST
Subject: Finding a ham operator.
Lines: 3

If you have his callsign, send it back here and i'll look it up on my
database for ya.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:52 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Date: 24 Jan 96 23:38:04 -0230
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
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In article <4ds2eq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jim Jaworski
) writes:
>       Morse Code is DEAD.  Get rid of it.  This IS almost the 21st
> Century you know.

Boy am I ever dissapointed!!! My eyes lit up when I read this message
this morning.   I thought to myself "No more searching around for a
clear frequency to do the old dahdidaaaahdit  dahdaaaahdidah thing!"
With Morse dead, the CW subbands should finally be quiet.  Well was I
in for a shock when I got home this evening.  I turned on my wireless
set and heard all this beep beep stuff.  There must have been hundreds
maybe thousands of 'em... beeping away at each other.  I tried other
bands and heard even more beep beeps.  I tell ya, it was so bad you
couldn't even get a dit in edgewise!  What is it with these guys and
their incessant beeping?  What year do they think this is?  1901
or something?  There are now much BETTER ways of doing it!  Why strain
your ears picking a callsign from a pileup or interference when DSP
and a PC can do a much better job.  Get modern -- let a computer do
the work so you can spend your doing something more enjoyable!

What?? You heard ME on CW last night?  Ahhh errr... must have been
someone who SOUNDED like me!!

Joe VO1NA





From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill L. Kotarski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Date: 28 Jan 1996 00:21:32 GMT
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Jim Jaworski ([e-mail]) wrote:
>       Morse Code is DEAD.  Get rid of it.  This IS almost the 21st
> Century you know.


> --
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> TEAM OS/2                                     MIME OK
> VE4JAF                                        BSCN Helpline Volunteer
> OS/2 -- 100% 32-bit since April 1992 and over 3400 32-bit OS/2 apps.

 I was a afraid of this,,,  First you try to help them out then they want
to stretch it some more.....

I am not against the NO CODE !!!!

 Next they will be wanting to get RID of the WRITTEN TEST, BECAUSE they
have CANNOT MEMORIZE the QUESTION AND ANSWERS.....

Then it will be you make up your own temp CALL SIGN
Then there will be no licensing of HAM RADIO OPERATORS

NOW WE HAVE A CB like INVIREMENT

Come onNO CODE TECH's  Be glad it was changed so you could at least get a
license without the CODE....  My God, My uncle got his NOVICE license
when he was 74 years old and it only took him 3 weeks to learn the code...
You cannot learn the CODe and Do all that PARTY'ing also...

The World just can't keep giving you everything you desire.. you must
work for what you want...  and If you want HF you must work at it... Life
is as simple as you want to make it or as HARD as you want to make it...




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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (gregory brown)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Date: 26 Jan 1996 04:02:07 GMT
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Jim Jaworski ([e-mail]) wrote:
:       Morse Code is DEAD.  Get rid of it.  This IS almost the 21st
: Century you know.

Books are DEAD.  Get rid of them.  The wave of the future is here.
Internet. WWW. This is almost the 21st Century you know.

(For any sarcasm-impaired librarians out, this is tongue-in-cheek...
please douse your flames.)

Greg



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
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Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Date: 28 Jan 1996 02:07:54 GMT
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In article <4e9jnv$[e-mail]>,
gregory brown <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Jim Jaworski ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:      Morse Code is DEAD.  Get rid of it.  This IS almost the 21st
>: Century you know.
>Books are DEAD.  Get rid of them.  The wave of the future is here.
>Internet. WWW. This is almost the 21st Century you know.

Books are dead as soon as you install a terminal in my bathroom so I have
something to read while, er, occupied.

>(For any sarcasm-impaired librarians out, this is tongue-in-cheek...
>please douse your flames.)

Er, OK.

>Greg

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <4ds2eq$[e-mail]> <4e9jnv$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:33:49 GMT
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In article <4e9jnv$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (gregory brown)
 writes:
>Jim Jaworski ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:      Morse Code is DEAD.  Get rid of it.  This IS almost the 21st
>: Century you know.
>
>Books are DEAD.  Get rid of them.  The wave of the future is here.
>Internet. WWW. This is almost the 21st Century you know.
>
>(For any sarcasm-impaired librarians out, this is tongue-in-cheek...
>please douse your flames.)

You know, considering the destruction of our forests by the paper
companies, perhaps it is time to abandon books and switch to electronic
text. We almost have the laptop and PDA technology to make it practical,
and CDROMs have sufficient storage.

I don't know that the economics and infrastructure are here yet to
just use the web to replace books, but it already has a shot at
replacing the daily newspaper (for those who don't already get all
their news from TV). Of course it's hard to wrap fish with a web
page. I browse the Nando Times and CNN Interactive, and even get
Dilbert on the web. Frankly that's a faster, cheaper, and more
accurate source of news than the Atlanta Journal Constitution
(lying rag that it is).

All we need now is to get something like the Ricochet Network
spread nationwide so that wireless access is both fast and cheap.
Then we can read anywhere, just as we do with books, magazines,
and newspapers.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:30:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Date: 26 Jan 1996 15:37:59 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>You know, considering the destruction of our forests by the paper
>companies, perhaps it is time to abandon books and switch to electronic
>text. We almost have the laptop and PDA technology to make it practical,
>and CDROMs have sufficient storage.

True, and I agree.

>I don't know that the economics and infrastructure are here yet to
>just use the web to replace books, but it already has a shot at
>replacing the daily newspaper (for those who don't already get all
>their news from TV). Of course it's hard to wrap fish with a web
>page. I browse the Nando Times and CNN Interactive, and even get
>Dilbert on the web. Frankly that's a faster, cheaper, and more
>accurate source of news than the Atlanta Journal Constitution
>(lying rag that it is).

True again, but what about reading your morning paper on the subway, bus, or
the like?

>All we need now is to get something like the Ricochet Network
>spread nationwide so that wireless access is both fast and cheap.
>Then we can read anywhere, just as we do with books, magazines,
>and newspapers.

Only if you want to lug around yoyr laptop. Lets face it, there are still
applications were books are better than "electronic media". When I go out
on field day, its sure a heck of a lot easier to throw my callbook in the
back seat, than it is to tear down my multi-media machine (monitor, keyboard,
ect.) just to run the CD callserver. (and/or load 80 meg of data to your
laptop...if you have one...and if you have the hard disk space too)   :)

And if I decide to go fishing, I could tear out on of the Califorinia pages.
Sure wouldnt want to fold up a catfish in my Winbook...yuck!  :)

Take care.

--
Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <4ds2eq$[e-mail]> <4e9jnv$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]> <4easgn$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 18:38:22 GMT
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In article <4easgn$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
io-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>You know, considering the destruction of our forests by the paper
>>companies, perhaps it is time to abandon books and switch to electronic
>>text. We almost have the laptop and PDA technology to make it practical,
>>and CDROMs have sufficient storage.
>
>True, and I agree.
>
>>I don't know that the economics and infrastructure are here yet to
>>just use the web to replace books, but it already has a shot at
>>replacing the daily newspaper (for those who don't already get all
>>their news from TV). Of course it's hard to wrap fish with a web
>>page. I browse the Nando Times and CNN Interactive, and even get
>>Dilbert on the web. Frankly that's a faster, cheaper, and more
>>accurate source of news than the Atlanta Journal Constitution
>>(lying rag that it is).
>
>True again, but what about reading your morning paper on the subway, bus, or
>the like?

A PDA and a wireless network adaptor can allow that.

>>All we need now is to get something like the Ricochet Network
>>spread nationwide so that wireless access is both fast and cheap.
>>Then we can read anywhere, just as we do with books, magazines,
>>and newspapers.
>
>Only if you want to lug around yoyr laptop. Lets face it, there are still
>applications were books are better than "electronic media". When I go out
>on field day, its sure a heck of a lot easier to throw my callbook in the
>back seat, than it is to tear down my multi-media machine (monitor, keyboard,
>ect.) just to run the CD callserver. (and/or load 80 meg of data to your
>laptop...if you have one...and if you have the hard disk space too)   :)

PDAs like the Newton, and a wireless modem like those used by the
Ricochet network, can let you access an online callbook server from
anywhere (within the network's reach at least). When the network
coverage expands, this offers a very good substitute for a bulky
laptop and CDROM player. Better PDAs than the Newton are coming on
market too. Soon we'll have color 8.5x11 LCD displays on machines
no thicker (or heavier) than a copy of Byte Magazine. This will
be a real omni-book, or omni-newspaper, or omni-computing resource
thanks to the distributed power of the network.

I once hoped amateur packet radio would lead the way in this direction,
but it seems most amateurs lack the imagination to see the possibilities,
and the will to make them happen. Fortunately, others outside amateur
radio haven't lost vision or will, and such things are coming on market
now.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Rich Mulvey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Date: 28 Jan 1996 17:42:32 GMT
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On Fri, 26 Jan 1996 18:38:22 GMT, Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4easgn$[e-mail]> [e-mail].o
hio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes:
>>In article <[e-mail]>,
>>Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>You know, considering the destruction of our forests by the paper
>>>companies, perhaps it is time to abandon books and switch to electronic
>>>text. We almost have the laptop and PDA technology to make it practical,
>>>and CDROMs have sufficient storage.
>>
>>True, and I agree.
>>
>>>I don't know that the economics and infrastructure are here yet to
>>>just use the web to replace books, but it already has a shot at
>>>replacing the daily newspaper (for those who don't already get all
>>>their news from TV). Of course it's hard to wrap fish with a web
>>>page. I browse the Nando Times and CNN Interactive, and even get
>>>Dilbert on the web. Frankly that's a faster, cheaper, and more
>>>accurate source of news than the Atlanta Journal Constitution
>>>(lying rag that it is).
>>
>>True again, but what about reading your morning paper on the subway, bus, or
>>the like?
>
>A PDA and a wireless network adaptor can allow that.
>

<insert tongue in cheek>

   True, but I've never had to worry about the batteries in my book
running out just as I'm about to find out whodunnit.  :-)  And I've never
heard of someone stealing a copy of Shakespeare, while electronics of
ANY description are fair game for any local thief.

- Rich

---
Rich Mulvey, aa2ys                                        Rochester, NY   USA
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
aa2ys@wb2psi.#wny.ny.us



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:03 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony J. Podrasky)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Date: 27 Jan 1996 00:51:44 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4e9jnv$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (gregory brown
) writes:
>>Jim Jaworski ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>:     Morse Code is DEAD.  Get rid of it.  This IS almost the 21st
>>: Century you know.
>>
>>Books are DEAD.  Get rid of them.  The wave of the future is here.
>>Internet. WWW. This is almost the 21st Century you know.
>>
>>(For any sarcasm-impaired librarians out, this is tongue-in-cheek...
>>please douse your flames.)
>
>You know, considering the destruction of our forests by the paper
>companies, perhaps it is time to abandon books and switch to electronic
>text. We almost have the laptop and PDA technology to make it practical,
>and CDROMs have sufficient storage.
>
>I don't know that the economics and infrastructure are here yet to
>just use the web to replace books, but it already has a shot at
>replacing the daily newspaper (for those who don't already get all
>their news from TV). Of course it's hard to wrap fish with a web
>page. I browse the Nando Times and CNN Interactive, and even get
>Dilbert on the web. Frankly that's a faster, cheaper, and more
>accurate source of news than the Atlanta Journal Constitution
>(lying rag that it is).
>
>All we need now is to get something like the Ricochet Network
>spread nationwide so that wireless access is both fast and cheap.
>Then we can read anywhere, just as we do with books, magazines,
>and newspapers.
>
>Gary
>--

Iridium

--
    Tony J. Podrasky     | LIBERALS need to learn the difference between
     San Diego , Ca      | lending a helping hand, and giving a hand-out.
    [e-mail]     | CONSERVATIVES need to learn to tell the difference
QSL? QRU? QRZ? QLZ? QFA? | between what is a "sin" and "crime".


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 12:54:12 GMT
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In article <4ebsv0$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tony J. Podrasky)
writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>All we need now is to get something like the Ricochet Network
>>spread nationwide so that wireless access is both fast and cheap.
>>Then we can read anywhere, just as we do with books, magazines,
>>and newspapers.
>
>Iridium

$3 a minute for 2400 baud tops? Get real! No, we need networks at
pricing we can afford so that we can remain connected. Ricochet is
$29.95 a month *flat rate*, unlimited hours, 100kb speed. That's
more realistic. That allows the network to contain most of the
resource intensive features and allows our PDA to act as merely
an interface. That lowers cost and bulk to the user.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:05 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
Date: 26 Jan 1996 19:04:20 GMT
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In <4e9ggm$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landin
g, NJ writes:
>>   [e-mail] writes:
>
>>  I can empathize with both points of view.  I too am a busy person (practic
ing
>>  physician with 5 children, 3 of them under the age of 2!) who does most of
>>  his operating in contests.  I don't like answering QSL's any more than the
>>  next guy, and I suspect I probably have even less time for it than the ham
 who
>>  wrote the above.
>>
>>  OTOH, I have sent many QSL requests, WITH SASE, which were never responded
>>  to in any way.  I seriously doubt if they threw my stamps away!  If the
>>  contester doesn't have time to respond he should at least acknowledge the
>>  requests which included an SASE, by returning the QSL if nothing else.
>>  It will cost the contester nothing but a (small) part of his time.  Actual
ly
>>  the amount of time needed to properly respond to a QSL request is not
>>  as much as might be thought.  Most contesters anymore do computer logging,
>>  and finding/verifying a contact takes very little time.  I keep ascii file
s of all
>>  my logs on my hard drive, and using a program like Vern Buerg's LIST allow
s
>>  me to search for a text string (i.e. the requester's callsign) in a split
second.
>>  I think a more reasonable approach than the one proposed above is to answe
r
>>  the ones which are properly submitted (with SASE) and ignore the rest.
>>  If the requester wants it bad enough, he'll send again with an SASE.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Flame away, the asbestos suit is on!  73 - Alan
>>
>
>wow..as we say here in the East..what a pair of ca hon nays
>
>on 1 hand..i don;t like to qsl, so there for i usually don;t
>
>on the other hand, i think its rude that someone who doesn't qsl should at le
ast send my card back????
>
>quite frankly, i keep your calls on file.  should i ever go somewhere you nee
d and work you..oopppss N.I.L
>
>(not in log) so sorry
>
>steve

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear.  I'm suggesting to the guy who says
he ignores ALL QSL requests that he should at least respond to the ones
that send SASE's...I think it is VERY discourteous not to respond when
the QSL'er has even paid the return postage.

My PERSONAL practice is different, however:  I respond to all QSL requests,
ASAP if accompanied by an SASE, when I have time if no SASE or via the
bureau.  To further illustrate the point, when I went to Belize for the 1995
ARRL DX contest, QSL's were sent for ALL 4200 contacts via the bureau,
whether QSL's were requested or not.  A number of other contesters do the
same.

I'm just trying to suggest a reasonable compromise for the folks who say they
can't be bothered.  Personally I have always responded to all QSL requests
and plan to continue doing so.

73 - Alan NS0B/V31EV

PS- I'll be happy to work (and QSL) you from V31 in the upcoming ARRL DX
CW contest!


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
Date: 26 Jan 1996 16:15:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
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QSLs ARE "the final courtesy of a QSO."  They confirm contact and
some people collect them, either as proof of contact, wallpaper,
or whatever reason they have.

OK, so we've now gotten to the point where some consider them
JUNK MAIL if they weren't asked for.

J. Amateur, new ham, age 14:

LOOK, I thought enought of OUR contact (note, it takes TWO)
to spend the time, money, and effort to send you a card in hopes
you'd have the courtesy to send one back.  Let's say we worked
in a contest and I JUST realized you were in Podunk county in
the imaginary state of Dyslexia, and I was born there, and was
a relatively new ham, and that card would be really cool to have.

You may be busy, but hey, I'm only 14, and this contact was important
to me.  And 14 year-olds CERTAINLY don't have as much money as thee.
But they ALSO don't often think someone will be so arrogant so as
to consider a QSL card "junk mail."  And they don't think about SASEs
unless YOU tell them to.

Back to the real poster...

So basically, if you don't want unsolicited QSLs, don't get on the
air.  If you want SASEs, send a few back with "Please, next time,
send an SASE," and the "offenders" will learn about high-volume
operators and how they operate.  I did.

I once worked a ham in Montana during a contest, and I needed the
card for WAS.  I sent an SASE (had learned my lesson) and received
a reply within about a month.  The callsign was NK3I, but I'm NF3I.

I sent the card, with a note, back to the sender, asking if he'd
send me a corrected card with the right callsign so i could get the
award.

I never got a reply, and I never got the envelope returned.

Most people are good about it; most hams understand that QSLing is
an important (and expensive) part of an otherwise expensive hobby.
But what folks forget is that it's a two-way street, and that the
requestor really DOES want your card for something.  Something
to be proud of on that bragging wall, maybe an award or two.

And YOU are a part of it by just being on the air.  Finish what you
start.
--
Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440
** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas **
Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles...
72 & 73 from suburban DC  301-549-1022 (h)  301-982-1015 (w)


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: QSL etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <4dkfdj$[e-mail]> <4e0975$[e-mail]> <4e2lbo$[e-mail]> <4e9jai$[e-mail]> <4eaun4$[e-mail]>
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In article <4eaun4$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Scott Rosenf
eld NF3I) writes:
>QSLs ARE "the final courtesy of a QSO."  They confirm contact and
>some people collect them, either as proof of contact, wallpaper,
>or whatever reason they have.
>
>OK, so we've now gotten to the point where some consider them
>JUNK MAIL if they weren't asked for.
[snip]
>Most people are good about it; most hams understand that QSLing is
>an important (and expensive) part of an otherwise expensive hobby.
>But what folks forget is that it's a two-way street, and that the
>requestor really DOES want your card for something.  Something
>to be proud of on that bragging wall, maybe an award or two.
>
>And YOU are a part of it by just being on the air.  Finish what you
>start.

As I noted earlier, I don't originate QSLs, but if you're trying for
an award, I will scrawl "confirmed" across a card you send me and
drop it in the supplied SASE so that *you* can get your award. I'm
not trying for awards, so your card is of no value to me, and I
don't feel obligated to have cards printed, or to pay postage to
send them out. Getting awards can be expensive, but amateur radio
need not be.

On another note, I've received a number of cards recently "confirming"
contacts with KE4ZV on HF voice. Those contacts are bogus. My only
recent HF operations have been digital. I started out writing a letter
to each of the people sending me cards, but gave up when the volume
became too large. Slim has really been active, I could get an award. :-(
Anyway, I will write VOID across your card and drop it in your SASE
if you include one, otherwise the cards go in file 13.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Ron Klein seems to think that his perceived lack of time is an excuse
: for bad manners.  I trust that any QSL's he receives with an SASE are
: returned to the sender.

I tend to agree with Ron.  Most people are busy enough today with things
unrelated to ham radio and other hobbies.  Out of 172 members in our club,
it is rare to see more than 40 at most meetings.  Many remain members, but
I have never met them, and I'm at almost every club event and RACES session.

: My reading seems to indicate that QSLing for any contact if requested
: is part of the hobby, and that contests are no exception.  Do any or
: all of the logging programs have provision for a list of people who do
: not QSL, and therefore may be inappropriate to contact, or log?

Unless things have changed over the last 25 or so years, I thought that
QSL etiquette required that the request for a confirmation be made during
the contact.  I've done this before, only to be told by the other operator
that he doesn't send QSL cards.  No problem, no hard feelings, no waiting
for a card that will never arrive, no badgering the other guy with repeated
requests, etc.

: I'd actually like to see a provision in contest rules that QSLing in
: response to a properly sent QSL is required.  Properly sent means with
: an SASE, unfortunately.

I'd have to disagree.  How would you propose that the contest authorities
regulate this, anyway?

I can't say that I blame hams for treating unsolicited QSL cards like all
the rest of the unsolicited mail we get every day.

73 de Jim - KF6CR
San Bernardino, CA


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:12 1996
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Reply-To: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:56:51 GMT
Subject: Re: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
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In article <[e-mail]>, Bob Raymond ([e-mail]
weramp.net) writes:
>In article <4e0ecl$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
>>Subject: Re: qsl etiquette (see Feb 1996 QST)
>>Date: 22 Jan 1996 16:35:33 GMT
>
>>I don't send them, and I don't keep the ones sent to me.
>
>I have made it a point to ALWAYS return a QSL card sent to me. I have even go
ne
>so far as to confirm a contact made by letter (when I did not have QSL cards)
.
>I know that many hams no longer collect or care about QSL cards; however, tha
t
>is no excuse for depriving a ham of a valued and needed confirmation for an
>award.
>
>Treat others as you would like to be treated. Think about it before you just
>discard the cards you receive!
>
>73, Bob, KG7WC
>
>
>**************************************************************************
>*    [e-mail] - Spokane, WA - Amateur Radio KG7WC        *
>**************************************************************************
>
>


You should qsl when asked, for you may never know when you may be in need.  A
QSL is nothing more than a conformation of a contact.  Brian, QSL cards need
not be expensive.  There are many options, you can use the net for example
to qsl a contact.  You can use packet radio for qsl'ing too.  I have one on a
napkin.  I got a long distance (125 mile) contact on the 440 band.  When I
met up with this ham I asked for a qsl card.  He simply wrote one out on his
napkin and that is considered a qsl card.

Now Brian, when you tell your non-ham friends that you worked Germany on the
radio you would have proof.  I have told hams before to put your card where
your mouth is or shut-up and stop wasting my time.





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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get radio spectrum chart?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 07:31:10 -0500
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In <4e44ju$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dean Youngquist) writes:

>Where would I find a chart or list showing which frequencies are allocated
>to what services and what are the boundaries.  I'm pretty familiar with
>the ham bands but I've forgotten what I used to know about the rest of the
>radio spectrum.

Check: http://home.navisoft.com/nspi/chart.htm

Courtesy of the Amateur Radio Reference, http://www.panix.com/clay/ham/

--
 See the happy moron,
 He doesn't give a damn,           Clay Irving, N2VKG ([e-mail])
 I wish I were a moron,            http://www.panix.com/clay
 My God! perhaps I am!


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Seth Breidbart)
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In article <4e8abf$[e-mail]>,
Brian Kantor <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hmm.  So should I create alt.ham-radio.binaries - and would it get used?
>Or should that be alt.binaries.ham-radio?

It should start with alt.binaries, so the latter is preferable.

Seth


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:15 1996
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From: fiz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 09:35:02 -0800
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Brian Kantor wrote:
>
> Hmm.  So should I create alt.ham-radio.binaries - and would it get used?
> Or should that be alt.binaries.ham-radio?
>         - Brian

I think it would be nice to have a collection of binaries. Why not
rec.radio.amateur.bin? I'd never think to look in alt.binaries.ham-radio.

ttfn fiz  (KG0YG)


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Books)
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Subject: Re: bincancel:21 large binaries:AR91:@@NCM
Date: 25 Jan 1996 19:08:11 GMT
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fiz ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Brian Kantor wrote:
> >
> > Hmm.  So should I create alt.ham-radio.binaries - and would it get used?
> > Or should that be alt.binaries.ham-radio?
> >         - Brian

> I think it would be nice to have a collection of binaries. Why not
> rec.radio.amateur.bin? I'd never think to look in alt.binaries.ham-radio.

It's much harder to make a rec group than it is to make an alt group.
Maybe alt.radio.amateur.binaries??

As for it being used, I don't know.  Realize that because it is a
.binaries group there are sight that won't carry it or will give it
short expiration times.

Roger


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ben Weiner)
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[e-mail] (Brian Kantor) writes:
>>I've been on the verge of creating alt.radio.amateur.flame for quite
>>a long time.

>Already exists, albeit with a slightly different newsgroup title, among
>the alt.ham-radio hierarchy (to which I've just added the binaries group):

> ...
>       alt.ham-radio.binaries
> ...

Should have been alt.binaries.ham-radio.

Binaries groups are supposed to go in a separate hierarchy.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: The Whole story!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Nope, because of the 2 year grace period, 1994 expires are
: just *now* starting to be purged. We had this discussion
: earlier about a grandfather who died shortly after being
: licensed in May of 1984 still on the FCC database as an
: active amateur. He won't be purged from the list until
: May of 1996.

Definitely correct.  My Elmer had his license up for renewal in March of
1994.  Since he did not renew, and was always an active ham, I can only come
to the sad conclusion that he is a SK, since I have not been back to MI
since 1989.  I will be watching to see if his callsign is purged by April.

: Yeah, but that's still misleading. Since the top three are all
: much smaller classes than the two Techs, percentage growth looks
: lots better than the raw number growth. Try expressing the growth
: of each class as a percentage of the *total* amateur population.
: That gives a more meaningful picture of where amateurs are and
: where they are going.

As treasurer of our local club, I have been asked to update my membership
database with the license class of each member.  When I have finished, I
will post a summary here.  As might be expected, most of our growth is in
the no-code Tech class.  But last weekend, one of our 15-year-old members
passed the Extra theory exam, and completed all requirements for that
license.  His friend and classmate has his General, and is studying toward
Advanced.  These two young fellows provided some needed inspiration to our
club president and myself; we are working on Advanced and Extra,
respectively.  Neither of us have any excuse, as the young guys were limited
in the amount of study time, due to homework from school.  I have been
sitting on Advanced since 1968.

We do have five students in our General license class, and other members are
studying for their upgrades independently.  So, interest in CW and HF is not
dead here.


73 de Jim - KF6CR


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lewcifer)
Subject: Re: Looking for DataRx
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Doug Brandon ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I'm looking for information on a company called "DataRx" which used to
: sell FM SCA data demodulation kits (used Exar XR2211 FSK decoder).  I
: think they are no longer around, but if anybody knows otherwise, or if
: you have one of these kits (or something similar) you'd like to sell me,
: please send email.

The DataRX kit came as a hardware/software solution.  The company was
a one-man operation.  That one man is now the publisher if a magazine
by the name of "Midnight Engineering."  His name is William Gates. If
you're interested in purchasing my kit, complete with instructions and
the decoding software, feel free to write.

--
"I think, therefore I'm free" - Lewis De Payne | Finger your girlfriend
Nonpolitical activist and general troublemaker | for my PGP key...


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Math's notes: undiscovered 50 GHz + ?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 17:04:32 GMT
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>> Right now, they say "100 GHz?  It's unusable!"
>>
>> Back then, they said (well, whatever they said, it made 3-30 MHz
>> considered 'High Frequency').

There is however a soubtle difference:

Than noone had the faintest idea of the propagation of electromagnetic waves
(other than light), and now propagation and attenuation of EM waves at *any*
frequency is well known, and chances of anything really unexpected happening
are less than marginal.

>> I have no
>> idea how to use this during the next 50 years.

Surely we are in for a *BIG* development, but no on the propagation side,
more on low noise narrow band stuff becomming feasible/affordable.

>Soon after it's deployment, cheap 70Gig Gunn heads will
>be available, and I bet they'll be easy to move to our allocation.
>WBFM at 70Ghz will be as easy to do by then as it is at 10 now.

WBFM and Gunn's are in the future what are AM-modulation and tube
receivers today: a nice nostalgic toy.

73, Moritz DL5UH


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:22 1996
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From: Zack Lau <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Math's notes: undiscovered 50 GHz + ?
Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:14:35 GMT
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[e-mail] () wrote:
>>> Right now, they say "100 GHz?  It's unusable!"
>>>
>>> Back then, they said (well, whatever they said, it made 3-30 MHz
>>> considered 'High Frequency').
>
>There is however a soubtle difference:
>
>Than noone had the faintest idea of the propagation of electromagnetic waves
>(other than light), and now propagation and attenuation of EM waves at *any*
>frequency is well known, and chances of anything really unexpected happening
>are less than marginal.
>

Why can't the experts agree on what causes E-skip and accurately
predict the best weekends to hold 6 meter contests?

Zack KH6CP/1



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ray Rocker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiqutte]
Date: 26 Jan 1996 17:11:05 -0600
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In <4e60fc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Carroll J Shelton) wr
ites:
>After reading a post from one contestor that he never replies
>to QSLs for contest QSOs, I would be curious about the habits
>of other US contesters.  Do you respond to QSLs for contest QSOs?
>(I understand the special circumstances of DX stations, I'm
>just asking about US contesters here.)

Yes, I reply to every one. Though I'm popular with the WAS and WPX
chasers I don't find the burden to be excessive. Then again, I am
not a Big Gun and don't work that many other little pistol types,
who are usually the QSLers.

I do wish more people would enclose a SASE or at least a 20 cent
stamp and mailing label. It used to be that almost every QSL I got
had that. Not so any more.

Now, this only applies to direct QSLs. Some of the DX cards I get
via the bureau that are obviously computer-generated mass mailings
for every QSO in their log don't get answered. I also don't answer
stateside QSLs that come through the DX bureau.

--
Ray Rocker ... WQ5L
Pass Christian, Mississippi, USA
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Richard Ferch)
Subject: Re: QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiqutte]
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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"John  L. Rouse" ([e-mail]) writes:
> I, too, am fairly active in contests - both here in the US and overseas.
> I reply to all QSLs I receive, and almost immediately to those
> considerate enough to send an SASE. Anything else goes via the bureau,
> but it does go. I must say I'm a tad aghast at the attitude reflected by
> at least one post in this thread in which the writer claims to  dabble in
> contests but shows nothing but disdain for QSLs. If he does
> receive a card with an SASE, what does he do -- use the stamp to pay his
> gas bill? That is not the way decent hams should behave, although it may
> be a bit more common than I would have hoped. Sign of the times, maybe?
>
> 73, John KA3DBN/VP2EBN
> --
>
I couldn't agree more. With the current sunspot situation and my
antenna setup (a ground-mounted R7 and a G5RV over the roof),
and having worked the 200 or so easier DXCC countries, I've set
my sights on single-band single-mode WAS for the time being. After
recent contests, I've done a bit of experimenting - sent out some
QSLs with SASEs and some without. Believe it or not, I get almost
exactly the same return rate - 50%. Now without the SASE, I can't
feel too upset. But to get no reply whatsoever when there's an
SASE enclosed bugs me -- if the guy doesn't QSL at all, he could
at least put my card, which I know he doesn't want (nobody wants
another VE3), back in the SASE and stick it in the mail. What would
that take - 5 seconds? I'd get the message.

A few days ago you commented about Canadians not enclosing return
postage. One reason is the cost. IRCs up here cost $3.50 (Cdn),
although the most you can get back for one is a 90-cent stamp,
and then only if the IRC originated overseas. According to official
post office policy, an IRC originating in the US gets you a 52-cent
stamp, and one from Canada that you just paid $3.50 for gets you a
45-cent stamp! US stamps are not all that easy to come by, either.
I order mine from the USPS philatelic service, but with postage
and handling, a sheet of 100 46-cent stamps (that's right, 46 cents
to Canada) ends up costing me over $60 US. If you can't justify
buying sheets of 100, what do you do? Put in a green stamp, I guess.
But at a 50% return rate,  that's not too appealing either, for
what amounts to a domestic QSO.

Oh well, if chasing awards was easy, no one would do it.

73, Rich - VE3IAY


--
Richard Ferch ([e-mail])


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (George McCrary)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiqutte]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 13:46:01 GMT
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I can't promise this is a good strategy, but it seems to be. Try not
to QSL the "big contesters". They are the ones making the really big
scores by working a really big number of people, which causes them to
get a relly big amount of cards that they feel is a really big hassle.

There are a couple of reasons that it is tough for these guys. Big
contest stations and antenna arrays take a lot of maintenance time
that us "regular hams" don't have to deal with. Another thing is that
often even in a multi-multi station the station owner is not even
present. Would you want to answer hundreds of cards when your 40M
stacks were sagging?

Look for people like me. I usually work between 100 and 600 QSOs when
I do a contest. This generates 5 to 25 cards depending on the test and
mode. I answer all cards, but I really grimace when I have to pay 32
cents so I can have another California on 20M RTTY!

                                73 DE KQ4QM (George)

P.S. Please reply direct or with a CC, my server misses a lot of
posts.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Senie)
Subject: Re: QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiqutte]
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 03:01:18 GMT

In article <4e60fc$[e-mail]>,
Carroll J Shelton <[e-mail]> wrote:
>After reading a post from one contestor that he never replies
>to QSLs for contest QSOs, I would be curious about the habits
>of other US contesters.  Do you respond to QSLs for contest QSOs?
>(I understand the special circumstances of DX stations, I'm
>just asking about US contesters here.)
>
>I believe that quite a few non-contesters make contest contacts
>in the search for new states for WAS, etc.  I had thought that
>such contacts were welcome, as otherwise contesters would be
>kind of limited in their contact total - there are only so
>many fellow contesters to talk to, no?
>
>BTW, I do understand that you need even us non-contest types
>to know the exchange, not to try to start a ragchew, etc.
>
>Now, the message I get from a contester who says he doesn't
>QSL is "Go away, don't bother me, I just want to hear from
>other serious contesters."  Fair enough, if that's what you
>really want.
>
>Is this the typical viewpoint of US contesters today?
>Or is it an exception?

I think this is a pretty poor attitude on the part of any contester who
feels this way. In the contests, a significant percentage of the contacts
are made between the avid contesters and folks who get on for a few hours
to hand out contacts and look for a new state or country.

The die-hard contesters NEED there to be these casual, non-contester
stations who will happen by. This is where a LOT of the points come
from. Getting a returned card or no card from a contest station is
like that contester saying, I really don't want your points in the
contest!

Dan N1JEB
--
---------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Senie                 Internet:     [e-mail],
Daniel Senie Consulting                    [e-mail]
http://www.senie.com         Packet Radio: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Gabler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiqutte]
Date: 25 Jan 1996 13:24:45 GMT
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I am an active RTTY contestor in Iowa.  I receive many QSL's from folk's
wanting to get a digital WAS. Most of these are from contest QSO's. I reply
to all though I am not pursuing a digital WAS. At the rate I am getting QSL's
it will happen soon enough :-).

73's Dennis


--
Dennis Gabler    --o--------------------------=o=--------------------------o--
                                               |
[e-mail] KB5HVN/NNN0BQG___________|       [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:30 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jan Almedal)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: HF CONTESTS- Schedule and rules : URL available ???
Date: 26 Jan 1996 19:12:00 +0100
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In article <4ea3qi$[e-mail]>,
Joe Fitter   BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm looking for a URL that gives contest information, upcoming
>HF contests especially including rules and reg's, dates and times,
>etc.  Please email with any specifics.
>
>thank you, Joe
>

Check:  http://www.sn.no/~janalme/hammain.html

It currently holds rules for over 150 HF contests!

Best 73 de
Jan / LA9HW


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony J. Podrasky)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Finding power line noise source
Date: 26 Jan 1996 17:07:47 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
>>
>The next problem is getting the power company to do something about it!
>
After 2 years at my mountain-top ranch I finally got around to stringing
up a rhombic. I had visions of dx stations pegging the meter.
I turned on the xcvr and I had a constant S-9 noise level on 80-15 mtrs.

First thing I did was power down the house at the mains to make sure it
wasn't me causing the QRN. Nope - clean.

I took a SWL portable around and checked all the poles - anytime I was
near one the QRN got worse.

I called SDG&E and after being bounced around a few times (at least in
the right direction) I talked with a guy who specializes in

    "interference to ham radio receivers from power lines".

REALLY!

He took the info and told me he'd call me back in a week.

Yeah, Un-huh.

Friday he left a note on my answering machine saying he has an order in for
13 poles to be reworked, and if things aren't better in a couple of weeks
to let him know.

That night the QRN was S-5. A few nights later It was at S-3. Last night
(about 2 weeks since he called) the only QRN is from the electrons dancing
on a 1/2 mile of wire!

The power company really came to the rescue. Give 'em a try.


--
    Tony J. Podrasky     | LIBERALS need to learn the difference between
     San Diego , Ca      | lending a helping hand, and giving a hand-out.
    [e-mail]     | CONSERVATIVES need to learn to tell the difference
QSL? QRU? QRZ? QLZ? QFA? | between what is a "sin" and "crime".


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:31 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Finding power line noise source
Date: 25 Jan 1996 20:53:47 GMT
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Just testing disregard



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus)
Subject: Re: Motorola manual
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] (DCimp) writes:

>I am in dire need of a Motorola Synotr Manual.......

>NOT A SYNTOR X, or a SYNTOR X9000,   just a Syntor Manual, in the 136-150
>Split, but any VHF version will do..... I need it soon, can anybody help?

>Dave KB8QHU      [e-mail]

You could always call motorola and order one.
(Local to Los Angeles, [phone])

--
 Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA  |  "It is difficult to imagine our
Internet: [e-mail]       |  universe run by a single omni-
 US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749   |  potent god. I see it more as a
   Phone: [phone]               |  badly run corporation."



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PETER Q. GEORGE, N1GGP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cape Cod Teacher Fired
Date: 24 JAN 96 01:41:21 GMT
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Please include exactly WHAT KIND of videos he was producing.  Rest assured,
you WONT find them on "Americas Funniest Home Videos"....will you ?  I think
not.

Peter Q. George
Randolph, Massachusetts
N1GGP


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:35 1996
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From: Rick Tressler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cape Cod Teacher Fired
Date: 25 Jan 1996 13:08:00 GMT
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[e-mail] (Norm Commo) wrote:
>In article <4dtbbo$[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> write
s:
>
>>A Cape Cod Teacher was fired after producing some videos.
>>(a long time teacher in the Dennis-Yarmouth school system).
>
>More detail needed - very incomplete picture to anyone on the net not in the
>news are where this is beign covered!
>
>The school teacher had produced and starred a mix of soft and hardcore porn
>videos done in CA. and had allegedly solicited a student to appear in a video
.
>The story was in the Thursday issue of the Boston Globe, page 25.  There was
>also an a follow up issue in the Saturday Globe (page 20) that a second
>student had come forward and alleged that the teacher had solicited her
>appearance in a video.  The paper pointed out that both students were over 18

>at the time of the alleged solicitations.
>
>>Many students demonstrated for him.
>>No hams did.
>
>Not very surprising to me.  Unless any ham happenening to live in the
>Dennis-Yarmouth area and has a strong opinion on the matter one way or the
>other why would he or she?  The school superintendant did was he thought was
>right and teacher (claiming innocence of solicitation) asked the students to
>go back to school.  Apparently both the superintendant and the teacher are
>following, or are expected to follow, the accepted protocols for handling thi
s
>sort of problem.
>
>-ricK1log
>
>

What does this story have to with ham radio?  Just another day of spamming on
the net, I suppose.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:36 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Magliacane)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WB0QCD Alford-Slot Antenna Measured Performance
Date: 23 Jan 1996 17:17:51 -0500
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Hello folks!

I just wanted to mention that I recently completed a Web page regarding
70-cm Amateur Television.  The URL is:

        http://www.njin.net/~magliaco/atv.html

There is a link from this page to another page that shows the performance of
the WB0QCD Alford-Slot Antenna as measured on a professional antenna range.
The antenna patterns are truly horrible!

The WB0QCD Alford-Slot antenna has become popular for ATV repeater use
because of it's horizontally polarized, omni-directional radiation pattern.
The claimed gain is 5.6 dBd.  Look at the patterns shown on the Web page
to determine just how close 'QCD's claims come to reality!

73, de John, KD2BD

--
John A. Magliacane, KD2BD   * /\/\ * Voice   : 1-908-224-2948
Advanced Technology Center  |/\/\/\| Packet  : KD2BD @ KS4HR.NJ.USA.NA
Brookdale Community College |\/\/\/| Internet: [e-mail]
Lincroft, NJ  07738         * \/\/ * Morse   : -.-  -..  ..---  -...  -..


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:37 1996
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From: Gary Watts <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WB0QCD Alford-Slot Antenna Measured Performance
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 07:11:32 -0600
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John,

Thanks for the news   but

What do you have to offer that is better that has been tested on a range ?

Gary Watts  de  N0OXV
Kansas City Mo
81 GL1100I


On 23 Jan 1996, John Magliacane wrote:

> Hello folks!
>
> I just wanted to mention that I recently completed a Web page regarding
> 70-cm Amateur Television.  The URL is:
>
>       http://www.njin.net/~magliaco/atv.html
>
> There is a link from this page to another page that shows the performance of
> the WB0QCD Alford-Slot Antenna as measured on a professional antenna range.
> The antenna patterns are truly horrible!
>
> The WB0QCD Alford-Slot antenna has become popular for ATV repeater use
> because of it's horizontally polarized, omni-directional radiation pattern.
> The claimed gain is 5.6 dBd.  Look at the patterns shown on the Web page
> to determine just how close 'QCD's claims come to reality!
>
> 73, de John, KD2BD
>
> --
> John A. Magliacane, KD2BD   * /\/\ * Voice   : 1-908-224-2948
> Advanced Technology Center  |/\/\/\| Packet  : KD2BD @ KS4HR.NJ.USA.NA
> Brookdale Community College |\/\/\/| Internet: [e-mail]
> Lincroft, NJ  07738         * \/\/ * Morse   : -.-  -..  ..---  -...  -..
>
>


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James H. Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: Get ready for Green Key Night (& Day), Feb 20
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Once again this Feb 20 join us in celebrating the beginning of amateur FSK
HF RTTY back in 1953 by getting on the air.  Not a contest, no rules and
no scoring, but guidelines are
   use a mechanical teleprinter if you can
   use vacuum tube gear if you can
   use 850 shift if you can
   have fun
   wallow in nostalgia


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:39 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Antenna and coax grounding?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:54:48 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>ground. I have a deep-cycle battery for backup and can hook the positive
>lead from any of the radios to the battery, and when I connect the coax
>to the radio, it will complete the circuit, and the radio will come on.
>The battery is isolated from everything else, including home A/C. Hooking
>to one of 3 power supplies will yield the same results. This is with the
>negative radio lead just dangling in the breeze! The tower is grounded
>properly with 3 10' ground rods around the perimeter. The shack is

Does the battery connect through some charging circuit...If
so the grounding path could well be through there.  Just a
thought.

73 de KC4WQ
Buddy




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Vanity Call Sign
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 06:02:29 GMT
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Steve Bramham <[e-mail]> wrote:

Hey fellers --

I've been playing this internet game for a while now, and I sort of
understand the rules but...

I've tried to ftp down the 601V form and I can't find it on the
fcc.gov ftp site

and

I've tried to download it from the www.fcc.gov site and get about 16k
into the download before it hangs and refuses to continue.

and

another person on my server with different software and a different
computer gets the same results on both the ftp and www sites

What are we both doing wrong???

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | You bet your sweet patootie I speak
RST Engineering          | for the company.  I OWN the freakin'
Grass Valley CA 95945    | company.
voice/fax [phone]   | AR Adv. WB6BHI               Cessna 182A N73CQ
[e-mail]         | Comm'l Pilot & CFI Airplane/Glider  A&P Mechanic



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:41 1996
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Subject: FS HTX-202 Two Meter HT
Date: 24 Jan 1996 22:03:52 GMT
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For Sale a Radio Shack HT-202 Two meter HT
with speakermike and wall charger Radio Works
fine. $140.00 shipped

email  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:42 1996
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Greetings from Anguilla, British West Indies and the Anguilla Amateur
Radio Society (AARS).  Here is some new information about VP2E:

New Postal Address for AARS:

Anguilla Amateur Radio Society
Post Office Box 1
The Valley
Anguilla, British West Indies

New e-mail address for AARS:

[e-mail]

1996 AARS January Club Meeting:

the January 1996 club meeting was held and new officers elected:

Elrick Paul VP2EP - President and Net Coordinator
Larry Stott VP2EL - Repeater Trustee
Dave Mann VP2EHF - Secretary/Treasurer
John Rouse VP2EBN - USA Liason
Robert Reiman VP2EBR - Training Officer

The membership reaffirmed the committment to our motto:
 Community Service Through Communications Support

73's to all
Dave VP2EHF
Secretary





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From: [e-mail] (Bob Raymond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Saturn Car Computer Problems
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 06:34:53 LOCAL
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 11:10:37 GMT
>Subject: Re: Ham Radio Saturn Car Computer Problems

I have used my Kenwood TM241 transceiver in my SL2 for several years now,
without problems. I have taken no special precautions, in fact, I have the
power cable plugged directly into the fuse block and transmit with 50 watts.
My antenna is trunk lid mounted (by the way, the trunk is not made of plastic)
.

I have not heard of anyone else having such problems with the Saturn. I am gla
d
I purchased my SATURN and will buy another one in the future.

Bob, KG7WC

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*    [e-mail] - Spokane, WA - Amateur Radio KG7WC        *
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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Alfred J. Boetcher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: BALLOONS
Date: 26 Jan 96 14:36:01 GMT
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In article <4e31r6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John
Wagner) writes:

>>Our local club is interested in a couple of balloon launch scenerios.
>>
>>1)  We would like to put up a tethered weather balloon at Field Day.  It
>>would serve 2 purposes: It would carry a dual band radio to use as a remote
>>base, and it would be tethered with wire, making it a beautiful 160 meter
>>vertical.  I'm interested in altitudes of between 2000 and 10000 ft.

Gary Coffman KE4ZV responds:
>Pardon me, but this is dangerous as hell except in rather special
>circumstances. In the first place, a tethered weather balloon will
>lay almost horizontal in any wind. It won't just hover straight
>overhead, so it's difficult to get much altitude this way. Now
>consider all that wire laying out over the countryside, unless
>you're in an incredibly rural area, it will find a power line.
>Your estate may have to pay for any damages incurred by the grid.

>If you want to use a tethered balloon, you need a blimp-like balloon
>with aero surfaces that can be set to cause it to *rise* into the
>wind. These can successfully be used to obtain reasonable heights.
>Balloon advertising companies can be a source of these, fair warning,
>they aren't cheap.

>And don't even *think* of tethering a balloon with 2000 or more
>feet of wire unless you are *miles* from the nearest power line,
>and maybe not even then. Think what would happen if the tether
>breaks and that long trailing wire goes sailing across the
>countryside to come down who knows where (the power company
>will probably know). Tethers should always be non-metallac,
>or at least you need a positive way to make sure that if it
>breaks it breaks at the balloon and not down near the ground.
>That'll limit the distance from the tether site where the
>wire will be a hazard.

Hi John,
Gary raises some valid safety concerns that I agree with, but I don't think
you need to consider anything that high(2000'). A half wave at 160
meters guesstimates out to about 270'. With a proper counterpoise you
could probably get by with a 1/4 wave (135'). I don't know where your
located, but here in Wisconsin it gets reasonably calm after sundown
which is when the 160 meter band would be coming alive. Although, above
500' anything goes night or day as far as wind. In other words, if you keep
your balloon below 500' you shouldn't have any wind problems after dark.

I'm not sure how much height the FAA will allow you. A quick call to
the local flight service station might get you some clarification. A
tower need not be lighted if its under 200'. They might allow you more
on a one time notification basis.

My Field day partner and I considered a balloon based vertical for 80 meters.
We had kind of decided to use a 1/2 wave with 1/2 wave on the ground for
a counterpoise. We thought we might get some directivity by moving the
counterpoise. We also thought we'd feed it with coax terminated in clips
so we could adjust the length of it on the fly. Again, keeping it below 200'
should avoid any hassle with FAA rules providing your far enough away from
your local airport.

A group of hams in southern Wisconsin has been launching balloons with
small repeaters and ATV for several years. I'll try to get you a callsign
of somebody envolved.


Good Topic, 73
Fred WU9R



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>>>1)  We would like to put up a tethered weather balloon at Field Day.  It


How about a kite instead?


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Dorf)
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Subject: Midwinter Madness Hamfest, Feb 10
Date: 27 Jan 1996 00:53:58 GMT
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15th Annual MIDWINTER MADDNESS at the National Sports Center, Blaine, MN.
Exit #32 of 35W, 20 minutes north of Minneapolis/St. Paul.
Exposition 7:30AM to 2:30PM, Saturday Febuary 10, 1996.  Grand Prize
drawing at 2:00PM Admission $7.00 at the door.  Super buys on computers,
software, hardware, components, periphals, amateur radio equipment.  Over
40 commerical venders, over 300 flea market tables selling used equipment,
4500+ people anticipated.  Info: RARC, PO Box 22613, Robbinsdale MN 55422.
MWM hotline [phone]

1996 prices
Tickets:      $5.00 advanced, $7.00 at the door
Flea tables:  $16.00 advance, $18.00 at the door (if available)
Commerical booth  $85.00
Electricity (commerical or flea market) $30.00


If you have any questions call the number above or reply via E-mail
to [e-mail]


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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:48 1996
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Subject: Re: US Hams want to operate in UK
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:54:46 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dave Probert) wrote:



>My oldest wants to operate 2m aboard the aircraft while
>overflying the U.S.  Is my understanding correct that:

>       Operation of radio equipment is not allowed within
>       15 minutes of takeoff and landing under any circumstance?

>       Otherwise operation while airborne only requires the
>       consent of the captain?

Operation of ANY two way equipment aboard a scheduled air
carrier is allowed only with permission of the operator.
The Captain of the aircraft DOES NOT have that authority.
The permission would have be attained from the carrier
proper, ie Delta, USAir, United, Northwest etc.  I forget
the FAR that applies, had it written down somewhere but I
believe it got lost with the last harddrive crash.......

73 de KC4WQ
Buddy




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: US Hams want to operate in UK
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4ebekc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>[e-mail] (Dave Probert) wrote:
>>My oldest wants to operate 2m aboard the aircraft while
>>overflying the U.S.  Is my understanding correct that:
>
>>      Operation of radio equipment is not allowed within
>>      15 minutes of takeoff and landing under any circumstance?
>
>>      Otherwise operation while airborne only requires the
>>      consent of the captain?
>
>Operation of ANY two way equipment aboard a scheduled air
>carrier is allowed only with permission of the operator.
>The Captain of the aircraft DOES NOT have that authority.
>The permission would have be attained from the carrier
>proper, ie Delta, USAir, United, Northwest etc.  I forget
>the FAR that applies, had it written down somewhere but I
>believe it got lost with the last harddrive crash.......

You're right, and for the operator (carrier) to grant
permission, the operator must certify that the *particular*
piece of equipment won't interfere with the avionics of
the *particular* aircraft in which it is to be used. That
requires a certification check which typically requires
taking the aircraft out of service for a day. No carrier
is willing to do that, so no carrier will grant permission.

Gary

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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:51 1996
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Subject: ARLX003 Joseph Merdler, N6AHU, SK
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SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX003
ARLX003 Joseph Merdler, N6AHU, SK

ZCZC AX49
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 3  ARLX003
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 26, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX003
ARLX003 Joseph Merdler, N6AHU, SK

Joseph Merdler, N6AHU, of North Hollywood, California, died January
17 after apparently suffering a massive heart attack.  He was 60.

An attorney, Joe was very well known in ham radio legal circles
nationwide and frequently spoke at conventions, including the Dayton
Hamvention, where he was a regular participant in the legal seminar,
Amateur Radio and the Law.  His wife, Margot, N6QFU, survives.

Services were held January 19 in Mission Hills, California.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:53 1996
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Subject: ARLP004 Propagation de KT7H
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SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP004
ARLP004 Propagation de KT7H

ZCZC AP25
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 4  ARLP004
From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA  January 26, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP004
ARLP004 Propagation de KT7H

Solar activity is still quite low, and only slightly higher than
the week before.  There were three days of no visible spots, and on
every day the solar flux was below the average for the previous 90
days.  The most active geomagnetic day was January 20, when the A
index was 12 and the K index went briefly to 5.

Over the next week watch for the solar flux to rise above 80 around
the end of the month, and then drop down to 70 after February 8.
There is a chance of slightly disturbed conditions around February
9 or 10.  When the flux rises above 80 there is a chance of better
propagation on the higher bands.

A note from K6ZMW points out that while low solar activity is bad
for the higher frequencies, this is actually a great time for 80
and 160 meters, especially when the A and K indices point to stable
conditions.  The hours before local sunrise are a good time to
check 160 meters.

Websurfing propagation fans will want to visit Cary Oler's site,
http://holly.cc.uleth.ca/solar/.   The author of this bulletin can
be reached on the internet at tadssc.com, or via packet radio at
KT7H @ N7DUO.#WWA.WA.US.NOAM.

Sunspot Numbers for January 18 through 24 were 11, 0, 0, 14, 13, 0
and 11, with a mean of 7.  10.7 cm flux was 71, 70.8, 71.4, 71.8,
72.3, 73.3 and 73, with a mean of 71.9.
NNNN
/EX



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:54 1996
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Subject: ARLB007 FCC changes hearing date
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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB007
ARLB007 FCC changes hearing date

ZCZC AG86
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 7  ARLB007
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 26, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB007
ARLB007 FCC changes hearing date

The FCC has changed the date of its en banc hearing on spectrum
policy and management to March 5, 1996, and the ARRL hopes to
participate.  The original hearing date of January 31 had to be
rescheduled because of the Federal furloughs triggered by the
congressional budget deadlock and heavy snow which extended the
shutdown.

The FCC will hear oral presentations and ''allow a direct exchange of
viewpoints'' among individuals and representatives of affected
industries.  The commission will select panelists from among those
who have submitted letters of interest.  Panelists will address
future spectrum demand and user needs, trends in technology, and
approaches to spectrum allocation and assignment, including
licensing and uses.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James M. Atkinson, Communications Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,misc.legal.computing,comp.security.unix,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
Subject: TSCM Counter Surveillance & Technical Security Page
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 02:30:25 -0500
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Just got posted a new article on the REI OSCOR-5000, an excellent piece of
test equipment for the TSCM industry.

Also, check out our updated tool list.

http://www.tscm.com/

http://www.tscm.com/tmde.html    <--- TSCM Test Equipment
http://www.tscm.com/tools.html   <--- TSCM Hand Tools


Coming Online This weekend, Marty Kaisers little black boxes, Winkleman
NATO equipment, and borescopes from England.

Upcoming Topics to watch for in Feb... Any interest??

   Wired Microphones and Pinhole devices... tons of pictures
   The Computer Audio/Video Threat... tons of pictures
   Join us for a real world TSCM sweep... On a sweep...

   Feel free to suggest topics...
 ===============================================================
    James M. Atkinson          "...Shaken, not Stirred..."
    TSCM.COM
    127 Eastern Avenue #291
    Gloucester, MA 01931-8008
    URL: http://www.tscm.com/      E-Mail:  [e-mail]
 ===============================================================
    The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and the Most
    Complete TSCM Counterintelligence Site on the Internet
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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Stone)
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Subject: Re: TSCM Counter Surveillance & Technical Security Page
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Date: 28 Jan 1996 21:13:08 -0800
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James M. Atkinson, Communications Engineer ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Here is the current list of frequencies used for bugging, technical
: surveillance and similar activities.

:        Outband Equipment
:        ANY Television broadcast or Cable TV frequency
:        ANY FM radio broadcast frequency
:        ANY Paging or Beeper frequency
:        ANY Cellular Telephone frequency

:        Keep in mind that the federal government can use virtually any
:        frequency between DC and light.

: Summary (this will catch 99.99% of all Non-Intell/Diplomatic RF bugs)

Gee whiz.




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Simon Twigger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amateur exams on the WWW
Date: 26 Jan 1996 09:45:25 -0600
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I was wondering if there are any places on the WWW where one can take
practice amateur exams? I am considering trying to set such a site up and Im
interested to see if anyone else is doing the same thing. I would also be
interested to hear any suggestions people may have as to the format/features
people would find usefull at such a site.

Thanks for any input you can give,

        Simon. AA9PW

Simon Twigger, Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee.




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:58 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amateur exams on the WWW
Date: 27 Jan 1996 04:47:10 GMT
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Simon,

There's already an excellent web site for practice ham exams.

http://w5ac.tamu.edu/ham-exam.html

It was a great help as I prepared for my Tech test, now I'm
using it to prepare for my General.

You might consider a web page (Java applet?) that helps
with CW!

Bill Young
KB0UZQ
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:31:59 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE: Info-Hams Digest V96 #43
Date: 23 Jan 96 14:13:25 GMT
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Re: Tax the Internet

As a current government employee (need to say that up front in this I
think) I have to say that I agree with the notion that the government is
too damn big, digs too deep in all our pockets, and has worked too damn
hard redistributing the wealth of this country from the do'ers to the
don't cares, creating a huge social problem and "dependent class"!
However, lets get the facts straight before you shoot off your mouth and
spread bad information.  For example; the comment that federal employees
"don't participate in social security" is bullshit!  While it is true
that many civilian employee's retirement funds began BEFORE they were
REQUIRED to participate in the SS fund, they still do (now) have to
endure the same level of deductions from their pay as anyone else does!
Those that began their government service after that magic date (I
honestly don't recall when that was; back around 1967 or '68 I think)
have always had SS deducted, and at the same level as anyone else.
There are exceptions in the GM service (higher level manager types)
and in (now get this.....D.C. itself--gee, wonder why?).  But, they
get other benefits the rest of us don't also, like the medical, etc.
Thats another popular misconception that I've heard advanced, even on
national media (well, guess I shouldn't be surprised at that :-)) that
we (civilian employees) get free medical!!  Another line of crap!  I
now pay TWICE what I did as a private sector employee of a very large
company, and for less coverage!!  So, get it straight.

Paul
wb2oyc
ar..



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From: [e-mail] (Deryl Adams)
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anyone know of a mod for out of band recieve for UHF on the dual-band
TW-4000A? Please post or email me............I have the VHF CAP out of band
mod, but no UHF..


Thanks
KJ5RT











The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It.




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From: Gary [e-mail]
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>   [e-mail] (Deryl Adams) writes:
>  anyone know of a mod for out of band recieve for UHF on the dual-band
>  TW-4000A? Please post or email me............I have the VHF CAP out of band

>  mod, but no UHF..
>
>
>  Thanks
>  KJ5RT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It.
>
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>
>>>>
Yea I'd like to know that my self.

                      Gary KF9CM



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[e-mail] (Bruce Herder) said:

>Biting the hand that feeds me!?! As if these were people that I needed??
>I got along quite nicely before ham radio, and I'm getting along quite
>nicely afterwards also...
>>
>>73 de wk1v

 When will you be turning in your license? I might want to claim
wk1v....it sounds fantastic in code!






From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:03 1996
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In <4e6i17$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bill Sohl) writes:
>Well another statistical aberration in the counting
>is due to the fact that the FCC
>had extended license renewals to a 10 year period
>(the original se life being a five year license).  That
>created a 5 year window when absolutely no licenses were
>expiring.  During that period, it is fairly safe to say that some
>numbers of hams with licenses above tech were, in fact,
>becoming silent keys or otherwise left the hobby and, if still
>alive today are not likely to renew their higher level license
>anyway.
>
>What that means is that the numbers of hams in the
>general, advanced and extra classes is probably
>overstated...while the number of newer techs is probably
>a more accurate figure as those tech (no-code techs)
>are all recently licensed.
>
>The 5 year window only recently ended and we will now
>see a puging of hams over time from the FCC list for
>the reasons mentioned above.

Don't know about that. My grandfather (KA5TTZ) was licensed back in 1984
died shortly after in 1985. Now if the 5 year or even 10 year license was in
effect why is he still in the fcc's database after all this time?

73 de KC7GNM
Greg



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Date: 27 Jan 1996 01:22:10 PST
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
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I tend to agree with you Jeff. Yea, they can look my call up as well. I
am a nocode and damn proud of it. Fact, I was totally surprised I even
passed the test at all. Now that I have it, i'm enjoying it fully. I
would like to eventually upgrade. But no time soon. Only reason I got
into this hobby, was to have something else in common with a ham I was
dating. I found that I liked it, and continue to talk on air every day.
I even help to run the cycle 3 session traffic net and have joined
r.a.c.e.s. So, who sya we have to have code to do anything. I enjoy 2mtr
and will eventually work 6mtr.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
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Keep The Code.

Cw is like the spare tire in the trunk of your car.  You may never use it, but

when you do need it, it sure comes in handy.  I have made a lot of DX contacts

on CW that I would not have been able to make on phone. Not because of weak
signals, but because the station I contacted did not speak English and I did
not speak their language.  We both knew CW though, and every CW prosign and
Q signal was clearly understood by each of us.

The main reason to keep the code is for a situation that I hope never happens,

but it could happen.  And that reason is a complete National disaster.  We
have never had a disaster that has affected the entire country at once. WE
have had hurricanes here, earthquakes there, and some flooding all around, but

never a nation wide emergency.  A Nuclear war is one emergency that would
affect the whole country.  And in a Nuclear war, sensitive electronic circuits

as found in our radio's and computers would be Zapped, making that equipment
useless.  Now the key to restoring order after a disaster is communications.
And as a Ham, you have agreed to help out. (see part 97) Now you have to find
a radio that survived the disaster, perhaps you will have to build one.  The
simpliest transmitter to build is one that sends a CW signal, only need a few
parts to do it.  You can use a wire for an antenna.  It really wouldn't do any

good to build a Cw transmitter though, if you didn't know the code.
  Now, it is possible that we will never have a nuclear war, things look great

in Russia right now {hi}. And if we do have a nuclear war it is possible a few

radios will survive and you won't need to build one {hi}. And we all know that

with so many hams off the air, the packet & RTTY networks are going to be less

crowded and working just fine {hi}.

I guess you're right, we don't need code {hi}.

73 de KB7ADL


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Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL ([e-mail]) wrote:
: The main reason to keep the code is for a situation that I hope never happen
s,
: but it could happen.  And that reason is a complete National disaster.  We
: have never had a disaster that has affected the entire country at once. WE
: have had hurricanes here, earthquakes there, and some flooding all around, b
ut
: never a nation wide emergency.  A Nuclear war is one emergency that would
: affect the whole country.  And in a Nuclear war, sensitive electronic circui
ts
: as found in our radio's and computers would be Zapped, making that equipment

: useless.  Now the key to restoring order after a disaster is communications.

: And as a Ham, you have agreed to help out. (see part 97) Now you have to fin
d
: a radio that survived the disaster, perhaps you will have to build one.  The

: simpliest transmitter to build is one that sends a CW signal, only need a fe
w
: parts to do it.  You can use a wire for an antenna.  It really wouldn't do a
ny
: good to build a Cw transmitter though, if you didn't know the code.

        If OOK Morse is all we would have to communicate with, I don't see
the prospects as good.  OOK does not have any advantage in a nuclear  war
environment then any other normal digital mode.  The noise will be very harsh
and have non-linear distortions.  You'll either need a lot of coding gain
on a forgiving modulation or one type od Spread Spectrum (sorry, I can't find
my notes from class on nuclear war's effects on communications.  This is all
from memory), or both.  As hams, maybe we should set up a more robust
emergency communications backbone for disasters in general.
        As far as ICs go, today they are getting mighty forgiving of EMP
and other nuclear effects.  I would not be suprised to see more computers
survive then solid state HF gear.  Granted the stuff isn't RADHARD, but
you wouldn't survive that type of abuse either.

        73,
                Shawn
                KE4GHS


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From: [e-mail] (Alan Larson)
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Date: 26 Jan 1996 22:00:30 GMT
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In article <4e2j9r$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bruce Herder) writes:

>Who needs CW when we've got satellites?
>                                        Bruce


  Apparently Bruce is not particularly familiar with satellite operation.

  The noise floor of the AO-10 and AO-13 satellites is such that with SSB
and reasonable power levels, typical signal/noise of 10-13 dB is about all
one can expect in good conditions, using a fairly large antenna system
such as a pair of 20 foot long circularly polarized yagi antennas feeding
a low noise amplifier at the antennas.

  With this performance, it is far easier to use CW than spend lots more
money on a system capable of marginal voice capabilities.  With CW, a
10 dB s/n signal is quite readable, and a narrow filter can improve the
s/n of the received signal substantially, as the common 400 Hz filter
will push it up by over 7 dB.

  The rapid doppler shift of the low altitude satellites makes CW a much
easier mode to track than SSB.  Doppler can move the signals by up to 6
kHz during a 15 - 16 minute pass.  In this case, many operators consider
it easier to listen to a varying tone of Morse than it is to re-tune constantl
y
and often lose first part of the transmission from the other end due to
mis-tuning.


        Alan


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In article <4e6osq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>In article <4e2j9r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce Herder)
wrote:
>
>Keep The Code.
>
>Cw is like the spare tire in the trunk of your car.  You may never use
it, but
>when you do need it, it sure comes in handy.  I have made a lot of DX
contacts
>on CW that I would not have been able to make on phone. Not because of
weak
>signals, but because the station I contacted did not speak English and
I did
>not speak their language.  We both knew CW though, and every CW prosign
and
>Q signal was clearly understood by each of us.
>
>The main reason to keep the code is for a situation that I hope never
happens,
>but it could happen.  And that reason is a complete National disaster.
 We
>have never had a disaster that has affected the entire country at once.
WE
>have had hurricanes here, earthquakes there, and some flooding all
around, but
>never a nation wide emergency.  A Nuclear war is one emergency that
would
>affect the whole country.  And in a Nuclear war, sensitive electronic
circuits
>as found in our radio's and computers would be Zapped, making that
equipment
>useless.  Now the key to restoring order after a disaster is
communications.
>And as a Ham, you have agreed to help out. (see part 97) Now you have
to find
>a radio that survived the disaster, perhaps you will have to build one.
 The
>simpliest transmitter to build is one that sends a CW signal, only need
a few
>parts to do it.  You can use a wire for an antenna.  It really wouldn't
do any
>good to build a Cw transmitter though, if you didn't know the code.
>  Now, it is possible that we will never have a nuclear war, things
look great
>in Russia right now {hi}. And if we do have a nuclear war it is
possible a few
>radios will survive and you won't need to build one {hi}. And we all
know that
>with so many hams off the air, the packet & RTTY networks are going to
be less
>crowded and working just fine {hi}.
>
>I guess you're right, we don't need code {hi}.
>
>73 de KB7ADL

I did NOT write the above, learn to read your addresses....
                                            Bruce



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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: 27 Jan 1996 12:09:26 GMT
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In article <4e48he$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Bruce Herder ([e-mail]) wrote:
>[...]
>: I have personally heard novices/techs ask for help... only to be told
>: (by the radio gods) to "go look it up..."
>
>'D'ja ever stop and think that maybe the quote radio gods unquote didn't
>have the precise answer on tap at the forefront of their mind at the
>precise moment the question was asked?  Is it possible the quote radio
>god unquote learned it once on his or her way to 5the license and never
>used it since?
>
OR.... the other possibility that maybe the RADIO GODS just flat out didn't
know the anwser??.... Naaaaaww...THAT couldn't happen,could it?

There's a hugh diffrence between not knowing/remembering an anwser to a
question...or being hostile to someone who is asking a question...
Of course, then again, we can't have some geeky low-life tech interrupting
our QSO...especially just when we were getting to the GOOD parts about our
stomach ulcers and excessive nasal hair problems..



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From: [e-mail] (George Warner)
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Ham radio operators are just a bunch of glorified C.B. radio
operators anyway.  They will do anything to keep others from using
their bands, namely requiring a code test.

Face it, nobody really builds their own radios any more.  Look in
the ham radio magazines and what do you see?  Answer: mega-
dollar ham radios.  This is the only difference between a ham radio
operator and a C.B. radio operator.

There is no reason why anyone shouldn't be able to get one of these
radios and get on the air.  There are portions of the bands reserved
for CW so why lock others out of the other portions of the bands.
Does knowing code make a ham radio operator better at using SSB?
Answer: hell no, it is simply a thinly veiled attempt to keep
others out.

If this attitude were pervasive, we would have penmanship tests to
use a state park, pie eating contests to drive on the public
highways and height requirements to run for elected office.  The
code test is simply no longer relevant to operating a ham radio.

Ironically, these ham radio operators have been so damn pig-headed
that the numbers of operators are in the decline and many of these
bands are starting to look like prime auction material for the F.C.C.
In the end, these bands will end up owned by some telecommunications
company for wireless networking and none of us will be using them
without paying a monthly fee to the phone company.

George Warner
[e-mail]
http://home.ptd.net/~warnergt


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Frank PoWell)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Ham radio operators are just a bunch of glorified C.B. radio

>Ironically, these ham radio operators have been so damn pig-
>headed
>that the numbers of operators are in the decline and many of
> these
>bands are starting to look like prime auction material for t
>he F.C.C.
>George Warner
>[e-mail]
>http://home.ptd.net/~warnergt
IN THE DECLINE??????  Get real!  The last time I looked, new amateur
operators were appearing at an all time record rate.
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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:15 1996
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[e-mail] (George Warner) wrote:
>Ham radio operators are just a bunch of glorified C.B. radio
>operators anyway.  They will do anything to keep others from using
>their bands, namely requiring a code test.

And now with a no-code license, VHF frequencies sound more like C.B.
frequencies.  Disgusting.  Why not have a code filter?  Or a physical
fitness filter, or anything else to keep boorish people on C.B. and off
our bands?

>Face it, nobody really builds their own radios any more.  Look in
>the ham radio magazines and what do you see?  Answer: mega-
>dollar ham radios.  This is the only difference between a ham radio
>operator and a C.B. radio operator.

It seems to me that hams behaved with more decorum...or at least they used
to.

>There is no reason why anyone shouldn't be able to get one of these
>radios and get on the air.  There are portions of the bands reserved
>for CW so why lock others out of the other portions of the bands.
>Does knowing code make a ham radio operator better at using SSB?
>Answer: hell no, it is simply a thinly veiled attempt to keep
>others out.
>
>If this attitude were pervasive, we would have penmanship tests to
>use a state park, pie eating contests to drive on the public
>highways and height requirements to run for elected office.  The
>code test is simply no longer relevant to operating a ham radio.

your analogies are shaky at best.

>Ironically, these ham radio operators have been so damn pig-headed
>that the numbers of operators are in the decline and many of these
>bands are starting to look like prime auction material for the F.C.C.
>In the end, these bands will end up owned by some telecommunications
>company for wireless networking and none of us will be using them
>without paying a monthly fee to the phone company.
>
The influx of poor operators since the advent of the no-code license is
staggering.  I have never heard so much foul language and obnoxious
behavior on VHF before.  If ham radio must transform itself into citizen's
band radio to survive, then I say let it die and let's all become CBers.
Until then, I would just as soon have the code requirement back for all
license classes.  Anyone who truly wants a ham license will find that
learning the code at the required snail's pace is no barrier at all...or
am I overestimating people's abilities?

--Beth, NN9E



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:16 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: 29 Jan 1996 11:42:46 GMT
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In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
 (George Warner) writes:
>Ham radio operators are just a bunch of glorified C.B. radio
>operators anyway.  They will do anything to keep others from using
>their bands, namely requiring a code test.

so, is george completely clueless or just waking up from, say, 1985?

>Face it, nobody really builds their own radios any more.  Look in

not true, the stuff people build has changed. also you don't HAVE to
build equipment unless you want to - it's always interesting to see people
pine for the "good old days of amateur radio when there were lots of US
amateur radio manufacturers" very few of which were actually investing in
R&D...and so got caught leaning off base with the combination of rules changes
the availability of transceivers in compact form (such as the FT-101, TS-520)
and
the advent of 800 numbers.

>the ham radio magazines and what do you see?  Answer: mega-
>dollar ham radios.

your $2K today buys one heckuva lot more radio than it could 20 years ago.
i don't think there's anywhere near as much improvement in the CB side, but
then again, if there were changes, you wouldn't have those $100 CBs at radio
shack..

>Ironically, these ham radio operators have been so damn pig-headed
>that the numbers of operators are in the decline and many of these

definitely clueless. he doesn't know about the roughly 150,000 new folks
from 1991 on...or the recent licensing changes.

>George Warner
>[e-mail]
>http://home.ptd.net/~warnergt

or it's a troll.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:17 1996
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From: Mike Persson or Beth Ager <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: 29 Jan 1996 04:53:21 GMT
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A license to operate on the amateur bands is *not* a license to do as
one wishes; there *are* FCC rules.  I am happy to share the public
airwaves with anyone who behaves decently, but I don't want to share the
bands with bootleggers, jammers, lids and Beavis and Buttheads any more
than I want to share the public roads with drunken drivers.  Any
prophylactic measure--even one as feeble as a code requirement--is welcome
in my book.

No, I'm not Queen of the Airwaves, Dictatrix of the Dial, but it is a
sorry state of affairs when I can't even trust local 2-meter operators to
give me a clean-cut demo QSO for the high school kids I know who want to
get licensed. It is worse than it once was on VHF, and as part of the
public who owns the airwaves, I have a right to complain.

BTW, you are certainly on the mark about some of those 75 m groups.

--Beth in Chetek--
  NN9E



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
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I don't know who said this on this group, but someone said that
we need to keep the Code, because we need to keep the idiots on VHF.

Now that wasn't a very nice thing for someone to say ...





























Was it?


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
Date: 29 Jan 1996 19:46:46 -0500
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In article <4ehbma$[e-mail]>,
        Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:

>If you want to operate a private club
>and limit access to those whom you personally find "acceptable", start a
>country club.  Not on publicly-owned radio frequencies.

Guess what? I own a private club. Its on 441.750+ in the Providence, RI
area. You're not invited, and the FCC says that it is perfectly legal
for me to keep you out.


>Second point: the belief that a "code filter" keeps lids off of HF is
>simply nonsense and a poor excuse for continued exclusion of some
>amateurs from frequencies below 30Mhz.  If you are convinced that Morse
>is an effective lid filter, tune up on 75-meters or 14.313 on any given
>night and listen for awhile. The childish antics, malicious interference,
>constant arguments, and filthy language you hear there on a nightly basis
>will make CB Channel 19 look like a Sunday School picnic by comparison.

You passed a code test too. All these examples show is we need to do
away with the multiple-guess give-away code examination and go back to
a fill-in-the-blank test.

MD
--
--
-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?"
--


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:20 1996
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From: Stephan M. Anderman <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #148 (for air through 2/2/96)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 96 00:51:50 -0500
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Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #148 of
"This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered
audio bulletin service, for the week ending 2-Feb:
-
1.   Dramatic Leadership Changes at ARRL Annual Meeting
2.   FCC Chairman Reed Hundt Says Commission May Be Going Broke
3.   "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #963 from Los Angeles
4.   "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR
5.   Weekly Propagation Forecast with George Bowen, N2LQS
6.   Veteran Space Shuttle Astronaut Resigns from NASA
7.   Amateur Reports on 5 Watt Mir QSO
8.   AO-10 Goes into Seasonal Funk, Batteries Not Being Charged
9.   Upcoming Special Event Stations
10.  "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago
-
This week marks the return of "This Week in Amateur Radio" to
satellite air.  Affiliates not previously contacted of the change
are asked to please contact the program's producers.
-
"This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin
service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York
State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY.  The program
is heard on the "Tech Talk Network" each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST)
on the Telesat Canada Anik E2 commercial communications satellite,
transponder 18 (9B vertical), 5.8 MHz wideband analog audio
subcarrier (4.06 GHz), located at 107.3 degrees west longitude in
equatorial geosynchronous orbit.  It's carried on VHF/UHF repeaters
throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz.  Contact
your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if "This Week in
Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area.
-
Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations
from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals.
Satellite space and uplink services are provided by Skyvision,
Incorporated as a service to the amateur radio community.  Further
information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at 518/283-3665
(e-mail [e-mail]) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB, at 518/664-
6809 (e-mail [e-mail]).  You may also reach them @
WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet.


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: All spammers please read was (Re: WI Hams Please read!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Summary: Use your Distribution attribute properly.
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <4ecli3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Schwartz
) writes:
>If you don't live in Wisconsin, please excuse the bandwidth.

There would be no need to ask our pardon if you'd properly set the
Distribution header line in your message. The reason the Distribution
attribute exists is so that messages of only local interest can be
limited in distribution to only the local area. If you leave it blank,
as I have in this posting, the default distribution is *world*. But there's
no reason to leave it blank if your message is intended for a smaller
audience.

Each area has its local distribution codes, state codes, regional codes,
country codes, and the default of world. If you don't know the proper
distribution coding to use, ask your sysop. There's no use wasting
the entire world's time with, for example, an announcement of your
local BBS number in Los Angeles when a distribution of LA would limit
it to only those who might care. Same with notices of exam sites for
a locale, IE exam notices for Southern California should have a distribution
attribute of SoCAL. And the same goes for the president of my local club who
recently spammed the world about an event that should have been limited
to an ATL distribution (or at most to a GA distribution). There's no good
reason to spam the net when the tool to prevent that is available to you
in *every message header*. It's just good nettiquette.

In the proximate case, there was enough of non-local interest in
your post to justify the "world" distribution (or at least a
USA distribution), but because that's true, you needn't beg
forgiveness for using the bandwidth.

Sorry to seem to be singling you out for this lecture, but yours
is just the most recent of a number of posts of this nature. Please
everyone, use the Distribution attribute properly for locale specific
postings. If you don't know how, ask your provider. If he tells you
his system won't permit it, demand he fix his system. Every usenet
message has a Distribution attribute in the header, and every system
has to have a way to set it to some value.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Hosler - KN0Z)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: All spammers please read was (Re: WI Hams Please read!
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:25:52 +0000
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Gary Coffman wrote:
>
> In article <4ecli3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Schwar
tz) writes:
> >If you don't live in Wisconsin, please excuse the bandwidth.
>
> There would be no need to ask our pardon if you'd properly set the
> Distribution header line in your message. The reason the Distribution
> attribute exists is so that messages of only local interest can be
> limited in distribution to only the local area. If you leave it blank,
> as I have in this posting, the default distribution is *world*. But there's
> no reason to leave it blank if your message is intended for a smaller
> audience.
> -------SNIP------
>
> Sorry to seem to be singling you out for this lecture, but yours
> is just the most recent of a number of posts of this nature.-------SNIP-----
-

I think you missed the mark on this one Gary.  While the target audience was t
he Ham
community of WI, many others are interested in this issue.  I presently live i
n MN and
thus have no vote in WI, but I do own lake properity in WI and plan to put up
a tower
this year.  I might also add that this information is at least worthy of the b
andwidth
it occupies.  One doesn't have to look very far to see the *(&$#%^ postings fr
om folks
like K1OIK, KF4DDM, that have little good to offer the Ham community.  There i
s less and
less information of worth posted in the USENET Groups and it is becomming wors
e on a
daily basis.  Lets not flame posts that actually offer some information of wor
th.

Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M.


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: All spammers please read was (Re: WI Hams Please read!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.960129095837.2325A-100000-100000-100000-100000@qni.c
om> Gary Watts <[e-mail]> writes:
>Jim,
>
>I believe Gary is accessing the news-groups via a ham radio gateway/bbs
>Since being able to distro  a message to a specific area can be done
>in ham packet radio. I also checked with my provider and that is not
>a function that can be done with what we have here..
>
>I have seen many post from Gary in the past ALL of which was
>very informative. I guess that he was having a bad
>hair day when  he fired up his flame thrower
>
>Gary.... this is internet not ham packet radio !

No my boy, this is *usenet*, not internet or packet radio.
As a fully participating usenet site for many many years,
I tell you now that netnews articles have a header, and
that header has a Distribution line. If your lame software
*hides* that header from you, that's a problem you need
to address with your software provider and your site manager.

If your lame software hides the header, I'll reproduce the one for
this message here in the body text so you can see it.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur
.policy
Subject: Re: All spammers please read was (Re: WI Hams Please read!
Summary:
Expires:
References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960129095837.2325A-100000-100000-100000-100000@qni.
com>
Sender:
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Followup-To:
Distribution:
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Keywords:


Now *that's* what a netnews header looks like. Every article
generates one. See that line labeled "Distribution:" up there?
That's your distribution line. If you leave it blank, the default
is "world", but if you put a local or regional code in there,
the distribution will be limited to that area.

It matters not one whit whether usenet is carried over internet,
uucp, packet radio, or two tin cans and a string. The *news*
software requires that header, and it's on every message.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


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HELP
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Ellsworth)
Subject: Re: Repeaters
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[e-mail] (Seth) wrote:
>I'm looking to setup a repeater and I was wondering if anyone had
>ideas as to what equipment is good.
>It will be 2m band with autopatch and other little goodies.
>thank you.
>      Seth, KB2WLU

Take it from the ex-co-ordinator of the NY,NJ,Ct areas. There is
NO room for another 2 meter repeater in N.J. !

no kidding.
-be



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From: [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Repeaters
Date: 28 Jan 1996 17:14:45 -0500
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In article <3109026b.1441908@cronkite>,
Brian Ellsworth <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>[e-mail] (Seth) wrote:
>>I'm looking to setup a repeater and I was wondering if anyone had
>>ideas as to what equipment is good.
>>It will be 2m band with autopatch and other little goodies.
>>thank you.
>>      Seth, KB2WLU
>
>Take it from the ex-co-ordinator of the NY,NJ,Ct areas. There is
>NO room for another 2 meter repeater in N.J. !

And here in the MA/RI area there aren't any pairs available for either
2m or 70cm.

Tony
>

--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
== [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz)
Subject: w6kwe
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Callsign CDROM shows nothing...nevertheless...anybody know, heard from or
have a clue what happened to w6kwe (Lindy)? On behalf of KE6UQZ...the
Ten-Again ARC...

73! (listen to 28.310 usb at 07:10 UTC everyday for the last/first words on 10
m
      it's the "Ten Again - Late Nite/Early Morning RagChew Net" KA6PVR (Paul)
      is Net Control - Bring an attitude and your legal callsign. Jammers and
      bootlegger's auditioned Friday Nites...get on the list! THUNDER OUT OF
      THE WEST!) And Remember:"If you can't stand 'em, you can't work 'em!"


[e-mail] (or:[e-mail]) KB6LUY (private email:eks@westwo
rld.com)
TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA  90405
"ANY COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS MADE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF CITICORP, ITS SU
BSIDIARIES
OR AFFILIATES." (Copyright 1995, ARR-permission to store/archive hereby grante
d)


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Sharon Gordon)
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Subject: Hillsboro OR people?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 00:36:47 -0500
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I am trying to get in touch with an amateur radio operator who recently
relocated to the Hillsboro OR area.  If you could attempt contact by
packet or voice, please email me and I'll email you the call sign.

Also, is there a Hillsboro club (or is it combined with Portland)?
I could use snail mail or email address for either.

Thanks!
Sharon
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Charles P. Ohrbom)
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Hello,

I hope this isn't a waste of your time, but.....

I am thinking of purchasing my first 2-meter radio.  In shopping for a unit
I don't understand all of the features.  Any help would be appreciated on
the following terms and how they relate to a low-to-mid range radio.

CTCSS Encoding and Decoding

Front end interference rejection

SSB (I assume means "single side  band") as apposed to what?

SWR (I assume means "standing wave ratio") what does this tell me about
antennas?

Any info can be posted to this news group or emailed to me at:
[e-mail]

Thanks in advance.

cpo


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Benton StJ Bonney)
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Subject: Re: ham havoc
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[e-mail] (Ben Stegner) babbled:

>Amateur radio operators (hams) are creating worldwide havoc, [...flame troll
deleted...]

What's got your knickers in a knot, Ben?
---
73 de KO4XE, Benton Bonney
[e-mail]
Lexington, KY




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:34 1996
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Subject: Baked Black Wrinkle Paint
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I'm looking for someone to replaint a small metal base in its original, black
wrinkle
color and finish.  Anyone out there that can help?

-Paul, N9AZ


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From: [e-mail] (Greg Moore)
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Subject: Re: Baked Black Wrinkle Paint
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[e-mail] wrote:

> I'm looking for someone to replaint a small metal base in its original, blac
k wrinkle
> color and finish.  Anyone out there that can help?

> -Paul, N9AZ

Yep, I have seen in hardware stores (most recently the one I work in) a
wrinkle-finish spray paint available in both black and gray.  I think
it's made by Zynolyte--I'll check at work tomorrow.  Most of your better
hardware stores with a *large* spray paint selection should have this
stuff.  Spray on, re-coat if necessary within 15 minutes, wrinkle finish
shows up after about four hours of dry time.  Try Eagle Hardware & Garden
if you have one nearby, otherwise try Home Depot or Builder's Square.
I'll look into it for further details.  And yes, I work in the paint
department.  :-)

Greg

 --
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[e-mail] (Greg Moore) writes:
>[e-mail] wrote:

>> I'm looking for someone to replaint a small metal base in its original, bla
ck wrinkle
>> color and finish.  Anyone out there that can help?

>> -Paul, N9AZ

>Yep, I have seen in hardware stores (most recently the one I work in) a
>wrinkle-finish spray paint available in both black and gray.

I think he mean't that he didn't want to do it, but was looking for a pro or
semi-pro painter.  If so, I know how he feels, as this finish is really hard
to get right.  You can practice for an hour, but the damn end object seems
to always come out wrong...



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From: [e-mail] (DAVE M . SCHERTZER)
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Subject: HELP: G/E MPI Series Info??
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Have a G/E/ UHF radio MPI Series -2ch UHF and need a
speaker/mic. Not sure of ther model # ???

Cud be TR-1 21 OR Comb: P5CRR56BEN ??

The mic config is as follows:
2 - 1/8" jack inputs (ear/mic) spaced 1" apart.

Any info please or mics avail?

[e-mail]






From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:38 1996
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From: john maxwell <[e-mail].>
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Subject: Re: HAM Encryption outside the US?
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It's illegal to encrypt or use a "cipher" here in Canada,as well.
                                 JM  VA3 OCH




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew John Murrell)
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Subject: Re: HAM Encryption outside the US?
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John Wagner ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In the US, it is illegal to encrypt any communications on the ham bands.
: Is this true in other countries?  Is it an international thing?

: There was a post on packet over the weekend from someone outside the US
: suggesting the use of PGP for encryption on packet.  I suppose it would be
: OK to use PGP for digital signatures, but using it for encryption is a
: no-no here in the states.  How about elsewhere?

It's illegal to use encryption in the UK, but there is a debate on at the
moment concerning the use of digital signatures (the problem is that every
one see's the fact that pgp is used, then starts going on about how
encyption is not allowed :) )

andy, g7ueh



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John P. Cross)
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Subject: Re: IC2700 Mods and info
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In article <4dtfk9$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Leon D. Zetekoff) wrote:
>I just recently purchased an IC2700H and moved my IC2410 into the house.
>First thing I noticed is the VHF receiver in the 2700 is not as good
>(selectively) as the 2410. It seems to be more prone to overload and
>cross-mod. Anyone have any similar problems and solutions for correction?
>Also, I'm looking for any mods for this radio. Can anyone help?
>
>73.


I have had a 2700 for a while now.  I think it is a piece of junk for the
price paid.  I agree with the above comments.  I sent it in to ICOM when I
first hooked it up and they said everything checked out OK.  BUT it is
extremely sensitive to intermod.  I have compared to my IC 3230H and several
W2A HTs hooked into the same mobile antenna system.  The 2700 just does not
cut the mustard.

There is a mod to increase VHF receive range.  They did it for me when I sent
it in.  It has something to do with jumpers.  Maybe someone else out there
knows about it.

Right now I would rather have another 3230 than the 2700.  Unfortunately, I
spent the money to get it new, and I would get hosed in a trade.

John
AB5OX


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:41 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: classic for sale
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Remember the Courier Royale???

I have one here that is available to collectors.

I remember in its day it was one of the top rigs sold in S9 mag
up there with the Browning and Tram.

I picked one up the other day. It needs some work, probably tubes.
It did not come with a mike and perhaps that is why I do not hear
anything on the receiver. I have some mikes here That I will
include with the set.

I had an offer of $25 from several people before the hollidays.
One fellow wanted it and was sending a check, then changed his
mind. If any of the others that made an offer and I refused want
it now, mail back. First $25  or highest offer will get it.

Just say you want it and I will hold it for you, and send you my
address.

Write soon




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael)
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Subject: Help: MS230 mini o'scope by NLS
Date: 28 Jan 1996 05:31:19 GMT
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I just acquired a Non-Linear Systems MS230 mini oscilloscope at a hamfest.
The thing works, but it has an oddity I can't figure out. With the trigger
set to "internal," everything works as it should. Of course, the trace
goes out when the trigger is not locked. (It's supposed to do that.)  When
I set it to "auto," it free-runs, as it should. But, then it will not sync
to a signal at all... it just continues to free-run, making the auto
function useless. On all other scopes I've ever used, auto will make it
free-run when unlocked, and then it reverts to a locked condition when the
trigger syncs to the signal.

I went through the scope and tested and/or swapped out just about every
semiconductor in it (luckily, the ICs are in sockets, and are common
CMOS). Nothing helps. Poking around with my other scope turned up nothing,
either. Anybody have one of these things? Is it possible it was designed
that way? Anybody have a schematic for it? Please reply via email, and
thanks for any help you can give me. For that matter, is NLS still in
business?

Michael


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KK9T)
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Subject: FS:Nice stuff...
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Yaesu FT-470 (mod), std. bat., wall-cube - $300,  PA6 - $20, NC29 - $50,
5Wbat + cube - $25.
CSI 8200D repeater controller - $375.  Kenwood 541A (1200 MHz.) 10W -
$375.
Icom IC12GAT (1200 MHz.) 1W-HT, w/ DC1 (no bat) - $275.
Comet 1200MHz. station ant (9dBd) - $100.
Austin quadplexer, 144+220+440+1200 - $100.  Austin triplexer, 144+220+440
- $90.
Hamtronics autopatch - $40.  Hamtronics dtmf decoder (unbuilt) - $45.
PCTV card (WIN) - $100.

Yaesu FT900AT, FC800, DSP9, RS20M, Vibrokeyer -- $1850

You pay shipping.

Contact Jim Fonte, KK9T ([e-mail]) -or- [phone], 1800 - 2300
EST


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:44 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.)
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Subject: Re: Interesting things I heard hams say on the air.
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Burt Fisher <[e-mail]> wrote:

Burt, I thought you turned over a new leaf.

Do I need to put you back in my kill-file?

Gary





From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tac63)
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Subject: ***NYC Fire Dept. Frequencies***
Date: 26 Jan 1996 19:09:07 -0500
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Can anyone tell me the transmit recieve frequencies and thier PL codes
respectively for the New York City Fire Department, Borough of Queens.
Please e-mail me if you can help.  Thanx in advance for your help.

Ron
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jack Kovar  KE0AX)
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        Not sure if last add made posting. Sorry if this is a round robbin.

        TWO of my personal radios forsale:
        Both in very fine shape inside and out with no problems.
        Both include original boxes and instruction books as received new
        from AES.


        YEASU ft-23r:
                         Includes all possible options encode /decode, mobile
        charger/battery eliminator, two batteries one new, case/cover, dtmf,
        two antennas, Amp 2w in/= 25 out, 140 to 163mhz coverage, speaker mic,
        ect.  This is my mobile rig for last four years.  I have a real mobile
        to take its place now.

        Icom IC-24at:
                         Includes all options encode /decode, DTMF,
        SPEAKER MIC, ONE EXTRA BATTERY NEW, DESK CHARGER/ MOBILE CHARGER,
        ANT, FREQUENCY RANGE ? 120MHZ TO 1.2GHZ.  I look to replace this
        one with a lighted keypad dualbanders for wife and I.


        PLEASE MAKE SOME REASONABLE OFFERS! I will sell to best offer by
        this Friday. Or first price that trips my trigger!

                                        Thanks
                                                Jack Kovar
                                                319-378-9852
                                                Toddville, Ia.
                                                [e-mail]
                                                ke0ax



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:47 1996
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In response to "SKS":
Jerry Lucas, former professional basketball player with New York
and Cincinnati, once provided documented evidence that he had
memorized the first 500 PAGES of the Manhattan (New York City)
telephone directory! Three hundred questions in a pool
would be nothing!

Regards,
Vince, WB2EZG



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Or better yet, let them memorize the morse code. No Code = easy
come...easy go!

Bill Patton
[e-mail]



In <4ehjl3$[e-mail]> [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk) writes:
>
>In <4e8adj$[e-mail]>, Vincent Biancomano
<[e-mail]> writes:
>>Jerry Lucas, former professional basketball player with New York
>>and Cincinnati, once provided documented evidence that he had
>>memorized the first 500 PAGES of the Manhattan (New York City)
>>telephone directory! Three hundred questions in a pool
>>would be nothing!
>
>since it's nothing, maybe you should approach him and have him
memorize the
>question pools up through extra and have 'em come down and pass all
the
>writtens. then you could say you have 1 example of where someone was
able
>to pass the test by memorizing the entire question pool.
>
>Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical
Group
>Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur
radio
>Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
>Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at
all.
>



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Charlotte Maxwell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FM antenna
Date: 27 Jan 1996 22:04:45 -0500
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I am living in an RV in south central Texas and I am trying to rig up am FM
antenna (89.1 MHz) so I can receive a public radio station from about 80 Mi
away.  I took a long spool of wire and ran it between two trees and It sort
of worked. Of interest, it worked better when there was about  an 8 ft sag
in the middle. The ends are about 60 feet apart and 20' above the ground.

Does anyone have any other ideas on how to get a better signal (aslo cost
effective!)

thanks
--
Clarke Maxwell
On-the-Road in Mountain Home, TX
























From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:50 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: FLY FISHING HAMS
Date: 28 Jan 1996 19:48:05 GMT
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I would like to start a on air net for Amateur Radio Operators that are
interested in Fly Fishing. If you are interested in Fly Fishing and a
Amateur Radio Operator, please email me direct a [e-mail].

73's

Phil
AD4WP


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Longwell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: High-Power Mobile
Date: 26 Jan 1996 04:15:50 GMT
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I want to upgrade my road-warrier mobile for high-power.  Up to now, I've
settled for the standard 100W output to the power sive antenna for 75-40-20.
(100W for 15 and 10 is fine for mobile ... in the year 2000).  I spend hours
on the road, usually at night.  I want to be heard.  I'm tired of being a
victim, stepped on, splattered on, lost to qsb, heard something in there but
can't make you out.  I want to be part of the QRM that everyone complains
about.  I want to here my direct-rectified ssb voice coming out of tinted cars

with overpowered sound systems at traffic lights.  (I'll switch to AM so I can

tell them to turn it down).

What I'm getting at is I would like to add one o' those big "linears".

I'd like to know what experience others have had, what cars seem to be
problematic (500W voice peaks cause the cruise-control to peg, ...)

Also, experience with the short list of mobile hf amplifiers.  (Ten-Tec,
Ameritron, and SGC that I'm aware of).  I'm most interested in the SGC since
it automatically bandswitches and needs no control head ... stick it in the
truck, add 90 amp power source, corona-resistant antenna, aluminum driver
helmet with ground, and your done.

I'm assuming that I might need to add an extra car battery in the trunk to
keep my electrical system from the strain.

Thanks for the help.

Brian Longwell
WB2DSH


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PATRICK STODDARD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: WTB Kenwood TH-55AT svc manual, BT-6
Date: 28 Jan 1996 17:37:01 GMT
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Looking for Kenwood TH-55AT 1200MHz HT service manual and a BT-6
AA battery case for the TH-25/26 series of Kenwood HTs.

Thanks!

(Also on packet [e-mail])
--
Patrick E. Stoddard           Internet:  [e-mail]
Glendale, Arizona, U.S.A.     Facsimile: [phone]
                              ICBM:      33.3 N 112.0 W



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:53 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: WTB
Date: 26 Jan 1996 02:08:03 GMT
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WTB: Kenwood TS-440S or 450S, email [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:55 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Where next?
Date: 28 Jan 1996 20:04:06 GMT
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Leading a recent ARRL bulletin is the following paragraph.

   "A committee will be appointed by the President to draft
   ARRL policy positions, based on membership input, on
   questions to be addressed at WRC-99. Issues to be studied
   include possible simplification of the licensing structure,
   harmonization of licensing standards internationally, and
   consideration of Article S 25 of the international Radio
   Regulations, the technical and operational rules governing
   the Amateur and Amateur-Satellite Services, including but
   not limited to the HF code requirement."

WRC-99 represents a "once in a generation" chance for us to
influence the rules and regulation for the Amateur Radio
service into the next century. Don't let it slip away without
YOUR views being heard and considered, and don't expect those
views to be heard if you only post them here in front of the
small inbred audience of r.r.a.*
   I don't yet know who President Stafford will appoint to
this committee, but we don't need to wait for that announcement
to get started.  Start talking NOW to your Division Director,
Vice Director, Section Manager, or anyone else who will listen.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
--Hark!
  I Have Hurled My Words To The Far Corners Of
  The Earth!
  What King Of Old Could Do Thus?


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Where next?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:13:48 GMT
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Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Leading a recent ARRL bulletin is the following paragraph.

>   "A committee will be appointed by the President to draft
>   ARRL policy positions, based on membership input, on
>   questions to be addressed at WRC-99. Issues to be studied
>   include possible simplification of the licensing structure,
>   harmonization of licensing standards internationally, and
>   consideration of Article S 25 of the international Radio
>   Regulations, the technical and operational rules governing
>   the Amateur and Amateur-Satellite Services, including but
>   not limited to the HF code requirement."

>WRC-99 represents a "once in a generation" chance for us to
>influence the rules and regulation for the Amateur Radio
>service into the next century. Don't let it slip away without
>YOUR views being heard and considered, and don't expect those
>views to be heard if you only post them here in front of the
>small inbred audience of r.r.a.*
>   I don't yet know who President Stafford will appoint to
>this committee, but we don't need to wait for that announcement
>to get started.  Start talking NOW to your Division Director,
>Vice Director, Section Manager, or anyone else who will listen.
>73, de Hans, K0HB

More important, if you want your voice to count, join the
ARRL today.  Yes I'm biased in that direction, but as
I've said before...the FCC WILL take far more direction
from ARRL than any assortment of individual inputs
from individual hams.

Bill K2UNK

Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liason, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:57 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Where next?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
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In article <4egkrm$hd9$[e-mail]> Hans Brakob K0HB <71
[e-mail]> writes:
>WRC-99 represents a "once in a generation" chance for us to
>influence the rules and regulation for the Amateur Radio
>service into the next century. Don't let it slip away without
>YOUR views being heard and considered, and don't expect those
>views to be heard if you only post them here in front of the
>small inbred audience of r.r.a.*
>   I don't yet know who President Stafford will appoint to
>this committee, but we don't need to wait for that announcement
>to get started.  Start talking NOW to your Division Director,
>Vice Director, Section Manager, or anyone else who will listen.

Don't underestimate this inbred little group, Hans. It has one
of the higher readerships on usenet. I recall QST saying 41%
of ARRL members have access, and there are a lot of non-ARRL
members here too. However, you're right, we shouldn't neglect
our ARRL officials. They *are* a small inbred group that doesn't
seem to get out much (with a few notable exceptions), and probably
need to be addressed by snail mail and telephone (or perhaps
smoke signals and jungle drums).

Nor should we ignore this subject in our on the air contacts,
at our club meetings, and at hamfest forums. This really can
be a major turning point in amateur radio. We need to get
organized now. It won't hurt to contact our elected government
officials either, it's an election year after all.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:32:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (mike)
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Subject: Special Events Station!!!
Date: 28 Jan 1996 17:04:14 -0500
Organization: Michigan Technological University
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Thank-you for reading this.  My name is Michael Long (KB8WPE) and I am
the Public Relations Manager for the Husky Amateur Radio Club (HARC) whose
callsign is W8YY.  The club is located on the Michigan Technological
University campus.

Starting on February 1, 6am EST, and continuing on until February 3, 6am
EST, W8YY will be running a Special Events station for Michigan Tech's
Winter Carnival '96.  The frequencies listed below are the most likely
place we will be operating.  For this Special Events station we have
8"x11" certificates that would look great on anyones' wall!  All you
have to do is contact us and then send a QSL with a self addressed stamped
envelope to receive the certificate.

Here are the frequencies:

Band            Frequency               Mode            Time
160m            1.90 MHz                LSB             8pm-8am
75m             3.90 MHz                LSB             10pm-8am
40m             7.25 MHz                LSB             7pm-10pm
20m             14.250 MHz              USB     majority of the day (8am-7pm)
17m             18.150 MHz              USB     if open 8am-7pm
15m             21.350 MHz              USB     if open 8am-7pm
10m             28.40  MHz              USB     if open 8am-7pm
2m              144.2 MHz               USB             All the time
                146.58 MHz              FM              All the time
70cm            432.100 MHz             USB             All the time


Again, thank-you for reading this message and all of us here hope to
here from you during the Special Events station!

For any more info. email me at [e-mail] or the Club President,
Dave Gillahan, at [e-mail]

You can also check out our homepage at
http://techsrv1.tech.mtu.edu:8080/harc.html
Though it is just beginning it does have a little information on it.

Sincerely,
Mike Long -KB8WPE-


--
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 \ Michael Long               ||   Public Relations Manager /
 / Callsign:  KB8WPE          ||        for HARC (W8YY)     \
 \ Email:     [e-mail]  ||    Email:  [e-mail]  /
 / Phone:     [phone]   ||     Majors:  EET and EMT   \
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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (mike)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Special Events Station!!!
Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:02:22 -0500
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Thank-you for reading this.  My name is Michael Long (KB8WPE) and I am
the Public Relations Manager for the Husky Amateur Radio Club (HARC) whose
callsign is W8YY.  The club is located on the Michigan Technological
University campus.

Starting on February 1, 6am EST, and continuing on until February 3, 6am
EST, W8YY will be running a Special Events station for Michigan Tech's
Winter Carnival '96.  The frequencies listed below are the most likely
place we will be operating.  For this Special Events station we have
8"x11" certificates that would look great on anyones' wall!  All you
have to do is contact us and then send a QSL with a self addressed stamped
envelope to receive the certificate.

Here are the frequencies:

Band            Frequency               Mode            Time
160m            1.90 MHz                LSB             8pm-8am
75m             3.90 MHz                LSB             10pm-8am
40m             7.25 MHz                LSB             7pm-10pm
20m             14.250 MHz              USB     majority of the day (8am-7pm)
17m             18.150 MHz              USB     if open 8am-7pm
15m             21.350 MHz              USB     if open 8am-7pm
10m             28.40  MHz              USB     if open 8am-7pm
2m              144.2 MHz               USB             All the time
                146.58 MHz              FM              All the time
70cm            432.100 MHz             USB             All the time


Again, thank-you for reading this message and all of us here hope to
here from you during the Special Events station!

For any more info. email me at [e-mail] or the Club President,
Dave Gillahan, at [e-mail]

You can also check out our homepage at
http://techsrv1.tech.mtu.edu:8080/harc.html
Though it is just beginning it does have a little information on it.

Sincerely,
Mike Long -KB8WPE-


--
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
 \ Michael Long               ||   Public Relations Manager /
 / Callsign:  KB8WPE          ||        for HARC (W8YY)     \
 \ Email:     [e-mail]  ||    Email:  [e-mail]  /
 / Phone:     [phone]   ||     Majors:  EET and EMT   \
 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/


--
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
 \ Michael Long               ||   Public Relations Manager /
 / Callsign:  KB8WPE          ||        for HARC (W8YY)     \
 \ Email:     [e-mail]  ||    Email:  [e-mail]  /
 / Phone:     [phone]   ||     Majors:  EET and EMT   \
 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/


--
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
 \ Michael Long               ||   Public Relations Manager /
 / Callsign:  KB8WPE          ||        for HARC (W8YY)     \
 \ Email:     [e-mail]  ||    Email:  [e-mail]  /
 / Phone:     [phone]   ||     Majors:  EET and EMT   \
 \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Mosher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is licensing for me?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 17:46:55 GMT
Organization: II Morrow, Inc.
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In article <4eas20$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Roger Books) wrote:
>I'm interested in building R/C airplanes, however I don't want to use
>commercial radio gear.
You're right, the 5 WPM code is not a big challenge. But, you don't need it
for access to the 6 meter band (50 MHz). You can get on that band with a No
Code Technician license.  Best of luck,

Tom Mosher,  AB7NV   Salem, OR


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tom Mosher               II Morrow, Inc.           [e-mail]
My views do not represent those of II Morrow or United Parcel Service.



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From: [e-mail] (Richard MacDonald)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is licensing for me?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:08:18 -0700
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On 26 Jan 1996 15:30:08 GMT, [e-mail] (Roger Books) wrote
:

>I'm interested in building R/C airplanes, however I don't want to use...

Roger:

You'd probably do well with a Technician class license. I believe there is eve
n
one available now with no code requirement (in the U.S.)  My RC friends tell m
e
it could be valuable because of the interference encountered by them using the
normal RC channels since frequency allocation changes.

You might, of course, run across interference on the ham bands that are legall
y
useful for radio control just as the RCers did on the CB band years ago, but
that's another story. All allocations are crowded. :-)

Good luck,
Dick - AD0J



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Is licensing for me?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
References: <4eas20$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 18:20:51 GMT
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In article <4eas20$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Roger
Books) writes:
>I'm interested in building R/C airplanes, however I don't want to use
>commercial radio gear.  I would like to build (or modify) a single
>channel transmitter to use a digital data stream and interface it to
>a PIC microcontroller in the plane.  It was recommended on the
>rec.models.rc.air that I become ham licensed in order to further this
>project.  Is that a good recommendation?

Yes.

>I'm not really interested in learning Morse, although the 5WPM
>requirment looks like it shouldn't be a major stumbling block.  I'm
>also (currently) not really interested in talking to other people, I
>get plenty of that at work and on Usenet, I'm after a hobby that
>justifies my very valuable alone time.  (Justifies to me anyway, I
>don't have an SO or children so my time is my time.)

It's not necessary to BS on the air with other folks to be an amateur,
though of course lots of amateurs do it. Experimentation and building
are integral parts of the amateur charter. Your projects would fit in
fine.

>As far as transmitters go I would be dealing with fairly low power levels,
>if the aircraft can pick it up around half of a mile I would be happy.  I
>have a decent electronics background although I would need to learn a bit
>about radio transmissions.
>
>So would a low-level license be appropriate for what I want to do or
>would I be abusing it by using it in this manner?  If it would what type
>of license would I need?

You need a Technician license, there's no Morse test. Most RC control
by amateurs is done on the 6 meter band (50-54 MHz). A Tech has full
privileges there. A 1 watt transmitter should do nicely for what you
want.

>(It looks like spread-spectrum is currently out also. :(  I was thinking
> about using it to build a wireless scoring box for fencing, normal
> methods don't work because they are too easy to block signals from
> the sidelines.)

SS can be used on the 70cm and above bands, also accessable with the
Tech license. This looks like a good project, though getting SS equipment
bulk down to where it's practical for fencers to wear could be a challenge.
But since you're already a modeler, you're probably accustomed to working
in miniature, so SMD work should be right down your alley.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:05 1996
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Reply-To: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:34:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Is licensing for me?
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In article <4eb42f$[e-mail]>, Tom Mosher ([e-mail])
writes:
>In article <4eas20$[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (Roger Books) wrote:
>>I'm interested in building R/C airplanes, however I don't want to use
>>commercial radio gear.
>You're right, the 5 WPM code is not a big challenge. But, you don't need it
>for access to the 6 meter band (50 MHz). You can get on that band with a No
>Code Technician license.  Best of luck,
>
>Tom Mosher,  AB7NV   Salem, OR
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Tom Mosher               II Morrow, Inc.           [e-mail]
>My views do not represent those of II Morrow or United Parcel Service.
>
>


This should really stir up the pot.  You can legally get on the radio WITHOUT
a license.  Dig into the regs and look under exparimental communications.  I
think I saw it in part 95, could have been part 87.  I don't recall off the to
p
of my head.  As I recall what I read, you can put a transmitter on any band
under the exparimental clause.  Your signal MUST meet the requirements set
forth, but it can be done.

I have a friend that operates that way on RC.  I am too chicken to do it, but
for the last four years there has been no problem.  Since we fly in the
desert she uses frequencies in the UHF GMRS band.  For the most part UHF GMRS
is not used way out here.  When we flew one day in the big city the RC signal
was overcome by "normal" communications on the band.  Needless to say the
plane crashed.  Yes all, it was a kool crash.  The plane exploded on impact.

BTW, the range of the aircraft was greatly extended by using UHF GMRS.  Yha,
it really sucks when you run out of fuel 2 miles away.  You can get really
trick and use marine radar to track your plane to see how far it can go.
Pulling the boat to the site is a real pain, but it was sorta crazy and fun
all at the same time.



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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Paul S. George)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need info on Tektronix O-scope
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:04:24 -0500
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I recently acquired a Tektronix 314 storage oscilloscope.  Does anyone
have any info, specs, or possibly a user manual (original or zerox'd) that
they can pass on to me?  Thank's in advance.

--
Paul S. George ([e-mail])


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:08 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
Date: 29 Jan 1996 00:43:55 GMT
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Drew, why is it whenever someone mentions destroying other peoples' property,
your right there in the middle of
it??

i hope you know that your posts about pins in coax, yanking down sections of t
owers, yada yada yada potentially
opens you up to lega proceedings.  If someone wanted to make a case against yo
u, all they'd have to do it keep
copies of your posts concerning the pinning of coax, etc and no matter who did
 the damage, they could hold you
accountable.  whether or not you could be convicted is another matter, but it
sure as hell cost you bucks.

it's a shame that some many of YOU have these attitudes.  Maybe if the shoe is
 on the other foot.....

just remember...be careful what you say, you never know who your audience is

steve


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
Date: 29 Jan 1996 12:12:21 GMT
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>i hope you know that your posts about pins in coax, yanking down
sections of towers, yada yada yada potentially
>opens you up to lega proceedings.

On what grounds?  Have I ever stated that I have put pins in someone's
coax, tore down someone's tower, etc?  No, I have not.  Have I ever
instructed someone to put pins in someone's coax, tear down someone's
tower, etc?  No, I have not.  I have merely suggested possible remedies
to solve various problems that others have mentioned they're having with
offending stations in their neighborhood.

Legal proceedings?  Don't be ridiculous!  Oh sure, I can see it now...a
guy gets caught pinning someone's coax.  When the judge asks him why he
did it, he says "Uh, well ah, I don't like what this guy does on the
radio, and some guy on the Internet suggested that I do this in order to
solve the problem.  So it's his fault."  Yeah, right.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
Date: 29 Jan 1996 13:26:32 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:
>  >i hope you know that your posts about pins in coax, yanking down
>  sections of towers, yada yada yada potentially
>  >opens you up to lega proceedings.
>
>  On what grounds?  Have I ever stated that I have put pins in someone's
>  coax, tore down someone's tower, etc?  No, I have not.  Have I ever
>  instructed someone to put pins in someone's coax, tear down someone's
>  tower, etc?  No, I have not.  I have merely suggested possible remedies
>  to solve various problems that others have mentioned they're having with
>  offending stations in their neighborhood.


As a matter of fact you have and you continue to do so.  I invite anyone to vi
sit rec.radio.cb to see you continued
condonig of vandalism.  Merely suggest??? you must be either kidding or you tr
uely are a class A fool .  Funny
your mentioning never references anyone but YOU

>
>  Legal proceedings?  Don't be ridiculous!  Oh sure, I can see it now...a
>  guy gets caught pinning someone's coax.  When the judge asks him why he
>  did it, he says "Uh, well ah, I don't like what this guy does on the
>  radio, and some guy on the Internet suggested that I do this in order to
>  solve the problem.  So it's his fault."  Yeah, right.

Intent is a very interesting principle in the legal arena, and intent is what
you are showing here Drewie baby!!!


>
>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>   KF4DDM


I dare you...post whatever you have written before and let others judge for th
emselves.. I DOUBLE DOG DARE
YOU!!!  your a loser...you may have 5WPM code but you act just like a small ma
jority of non-code/cb operators

give up the ticket Drew..you bring nothing to the table.  BTW, I hear Charlott
e is having a jammer problem on some
of their 2 meter repeaters...could you be misbehaving again????



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:12 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
Date: 29 Jan 1996 14:53:38 GMT
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[e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI) wrote:
>>  Legal proceedings?  Don't be ridiculous!  Oh sure, I can see it now...
a
>>  guy gets caught pinning someone's coax.  When the judge asks him why
>>   he
>>  did it, he says "Uh, well ah, I don't like what this guy does on the

>>  radio, and some guy on the Internet suggested that I do this in order
to
>>  solve the problem.  So it's his fault."  Yeah, right.
>
>Intent is a very interesting principle in the legal arena, and intent is
what you are showing here Drewie baby!!!

I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you over something you
obviously know nothing about.  If you are actually foolish enough to
believe that you have a case here, bring it on!  Just make sure you have
lots of money to pay the attorney fees on both sides of the table when
your suit gets tossed out as "frivilous" and you are then countersued for
the above-mentioned fees and expenses.


>give up the ticket Drew..you bring nothing to the table.  BTW, I hear
Charlotte is having a jammer problem on some
>of their 2 meter repeaters...could you be misbehaving again????
>

For once, you are correct about something.  We do seem to have a jammer
problem, and it's on our machine.  The problem was particularily bad this
past weekend.  In fact, it's quite a remarkable coincidence that you
should mention this...especially since the "jammer" maliciously
interfered with several of my transmissions and even spoke up to mention
my name and call me a "moron" on one occasion.  Gee, Steve, you wouldn't
have anything to do with this, now would you?  You have to admit, it's
quite an amazing coincidence.

-Drew in Charlotte-



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
Date: 29 Jan 1996 17:54:51 -0500
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In article <4ein1i$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>For once, you are correct about something.  We do seem to have a jammer
>problem, and it's on our machine.  The problem was particularily bad this
>past weekend.  In fact, it's quite a remarkable coincidence that you
>should mention this...especially since the "jammer" maliciously
>interfered with several of my transmissions and even spoke up to mention
>my name and call me a "moron" on one occasion.  Gee, Steve, you wouldn't
>have anything to do with this, now would you?  You have to admit, it's
>quite an amazing coincidence.

So quite complaining. First you get a nice RF fingerprint of the
offending party. Then you start fingerprinting everyone you hear on
that frequency and on adjacent repeaters. Then do a comparison of
the jammers fingerprint to your database and you've got the culprits
radio. Step two is to actively DF the idiot. Once that's done have your
attornery draft up a cease and desist order and send it to the geek via
registered mail.

While the ARRL and FCC fight about who has to enforce the rules it generally
takes care of the problem.

Tony



--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
== [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cecil A. Moore~)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
Date: 30 Jan 1996 00:21:57 GMT
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In article <4eh58c$[e-mail]>,
Steve - KF2TI <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Drew, why is it whenever someone mentions destroying other peoples' p
>it??
>
>i hope you know that your posts about pins in coax, yanking down sect
>opens you up to lega proceedings.  If someone wanted to make a case a
>copies of your posts concerning the pinning of coax, etc and no matte
>accountable.  whether or not you could be convicted is another matter
>
>it's a shame that some many of YOU have these attitudes.  Maybe if th
>
>just remember...be careful what you say, you never know who your audi
>
>steve

Hi Steve, here is what your posting looks like to those of us with 80
column systems - and there's a bunch of us out here.

73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC  (not speaking for my employer)


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From: [e-mail] (Alex948739)
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Subject: Re: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
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I got another method: get a syrringe and inject salt water in the cable
that will work wonders


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
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Enough already!!!  This is a CB group! ([e-mail]) wro
te:

: Want evidence?  We're all active CBers and on a CB group now, for
: cryin' out loud!  What more do you need?  If ham radio was the
: panacea, we'd be on packet or an HF net... or at least on an internet
: ham group!  I feel bad for the exclusive CB folks whose "spectrum"
: we're using up!

      Well, then quit crossposting to rec.radio.cb   and for that
matter... rec.radio.scanner...

Folks..... set your damn Newsgroups: line and Followups To: line!!!

Get out of these groups and keep your ham bickering where it belongs...
the ham groups.

Off topic participants will be sent an itemized list of their violations
via email!


--
 John L. Wilkerson Jr...    [e-mail]

      "Political Correctness is for mindless sheep.. Speak up how
_you_ want, not how others say you should"


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:17 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KY1T Luck)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
Date: 27 Jan 1996 05:34:45 -0500
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In article <4eb69l$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tony J.
Podrasky) writes:

>VHF is great for getting stuff done locally but doesn't do
>the out of state messages to your loved ones.
>
>

I enjoyed your post so please don't consider this as criticism.  But I
would like to point out that a fair amount of the out of state messages
"to your loved ones" have been going via amateur satellites in the past
few years.  The same satellites that have their inputs and  outputs on
VHF/UHF, and the very same satellites that would still be in operation in
the disaster scenario you've suggested.

Better than all that is the fact that the satellites are somewhat
under-loaded, and under-utilized.  Which is super, because their
capabilities would be very much in demand during a disaster of the type
and scope you're thinking of.

All in all, things are looking up.  (Sorry...)

73

-----------------------------------------------------
Byron (Luck) Hurder, KY1T   [e-mail]  AX.25 - [e-mail]
53 Broadview St. Newington Ct 06111         [phone]
Amateur Radio TCP/IP address - [e-mail]
Web Page -- http://home.aol.com/KY1TLUCK
Finally employed again Software Engineer/Database Administrator/Project
Manager






From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:18 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
Date: 28 Jan 1996 05:00:36 GMT
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In <4eb69l$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Tony J. Podrasky) writes:
>VHF is great for getting stuff done locally but doesn't do
>the out of state messages to your loved ones.

depends on the terrain and the systems involved...florida, a little altitude c
an buy
you a good amount of coverage since we're fairly level..and of course there's
satellites...

>CW - hook up the hand key and you're ready.

or hook up the microphone...

>EE - unavailable: no power for the computer, TNC, CRT, disk drive, etc.

since most computers draw less power than the radio, if there's power for the
radio, there should be power for the computer.

>SOS:
someone must always be listening if you want a distress signal to be heard.
that's why there were "watches" on specific frequencies just for that purpose.
this continues today as well (the "watch frequency" for police on telephone is

911, there's 121.5 MHz for aircraft, etc.)

>CAPTURE:
>CW - Take 2 seconds to send, 2 seconds to recognize.

after you've attracted someone's attention.

>EE - First you have to hope that your signal is strong enough for someone

the same problems here also apply to morse transmissions.

>DECODING:
>CW - Ears.

trained ears.

>EE - must have the correct digital mode equipment to receive your signal.

and what about phone?

>AVAILABILITY:
>CW - All hams + boy scouts can copy.

since we've had a code free ticket since 1991, and there's about 150,000 folks
in that group, you can't say for sure that all hams can copy. you haven't been
 in
touch with most boy scout groups if you assume that boy scouts can copy
code..heck, i was the only guy in the troop that knew code back when, and the
"official" semaphore guy used the same flag position for A and H, B and I, etc
.

>Last of all, don't forget that the code requirement below 30Mhz is an
>international thing, and not something the FCC dreamed up.

used to be below 144 MHz..it is something dreamed up with respect to just
what is it they want an amateur radio operator to know. and these rules
come from the dawn of "radio time".

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:20 1996
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
Date: 28 Jan 1996 15:33:04 GMT
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In <4edhsu$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
 writes:
>>The modification of Amateur radio equipment is also off topic for rec.cb
>and
>>rec.scanner, not to mention that it's illegal. Please REFRAME from
>talking
>>about illegal activity in the future.
>
>Is that so?  Would you please explain to me how it is possible that the
>modification of amateur radio equipment is illegal when amateur exuipment
>is not FCC type-accepted in the first place?
>
>Better read your law books again, Mr. Legal Eagle.  Modification of
>amateur equipment is most certainly legal, even encouraged!  USE of that
>equipment on non-amateur frequencies (as in 10-meter radios being used on
>the CB band) is another matter entirely.
>
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM
>
Modification of ham equipment is legal, if done by a licensed ham and
used on ham frequencies.  I doubt if many of the people in rec.radio.cb
are licensed hams, or are using their equipment on the ham bands.  If
they're not licensed and/or are using their equipment outside the ham
bands, it IS illegal.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
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>Modification of ham equipment is legal, if done by a licensed ham and
>used on ham frequencies.  I doubt if many of the people in rec.radio.cb
>are licensed hams, or are using their equipment on the ham bands.  If
>they're not licensed and/or are using their equipment outside the ham
>bands, it IS illegal.
>

That is my point, exactly. The CB group discusses the modification of amateur
radio equipment more than all the other ham groups combined.  And about every
other post in the CB group has the title "How do you hook up an amplifier?"


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Modified gear, was Re: No Code = No Brain
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:31:58 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>In <4edhsu$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew Durigan
) writes:
>>>The modification of Amateur radio equipment is also off topic for rec.cb
>>and
>>>rec.scanner, not to mention that it's illegal. Please REFRAME from
>>talking
>>>about illegal activity in the future.
>>
>>Is that so?  Would you please explain to me how it is possible that the
>>modification of amateur radio equipment is illegal when amateur exuipment
>>is not FCC type-accepted in the first place?
>>
>>Better read your law books again, Mr. Legal Eagle.  Modification of
>>amateur equipment is most certainly legal, even encouraged!  USE of that
>>equipment on non-amateur frequencies (as in 10-meter radios being used on
>>the CB band) is another matter entirely.
>>
>>
>>-Drew in Charlotte-
>> KF4DDM
>>
>Modification of ham equipment is legal, if done by a licensed ham and
>used on ham frequencies.  I doubt if many of the people in rec.radio.cb
>are licensed hams, or are using their equipment on the ham bands.  If
>they're not licensed and/or are using their equipment outside the ham
>bands, it IS illegal.
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>* Alan Braun MD, NS0B/V31EV *Internet: [e-mail]          *

Anyone can modify ham equipment after it is initially sold.  Once
commercially manufactured ham gear has been sold, anyone can modify
it and anyone can use it EXCEPT transmission must be done
by a licensed ham.


Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liason, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
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In article <4ebuc6$[e-mail]>,
Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL <[e-mail]> wrote:
>The modification of Amateur radio equipment is also off topic for rec.cb and
>rec.scanner, not to mention that it's illegal.

Modification of amateur radio equipment is *not* illegal.

>                                               Please REFRAME from talking
>about illegal activity in the future.

Reframe? Is that a packet joke?

>Or quit complaining.

Never.

Please respect the Followup-to: line.

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Wilkerson)
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
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Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <4e2j9r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce Herder) wrot
e:

: Keep The Code.

: Cw is like the spare tire in the trunk of your car.  You may never use it, b
ut
: when you do need it, it sure comes in handy.  I have made a lot of DX contac
ts
: on CW that I would not have been able to make on phone. Not because of weak
: signals, but because the station I contacted did not speak English and I did

: not speak their language.  We both knew CW though, and every CW prosign and
: Q signal was clearly understood by each of us.

: The main reason to keep the code is for a situation that I hope never happen
s,
: but it could happen.  And that reason is a complete National disaster.  We
: have never had a disaster that has affected the entire country at once. WE
: have had hurricanes here, earthquakes there, and some flooding all around, b
ut
: never a nation wide emergency.  A Nuclear war is one emergency that would
: affect the whole country.  And in a Nuclear war, sensitive electronic circui
ts
: as found in our radio's and computers would be Zapped, making that equipment

: useless.  Now the key to restoring order after a disaster is communications.

: And as a Ham, you have agreed to help out. (see part 97) Now you have to fin
d
: a radio that survived the disaster, perhaps you will have to build one.  The

: simpliest transmitter to build is one that sends a CW signal, only need a fe
w
: parts to do it.  You can use a wire for an antenna.  It really wouldn't do a
ny
: good to build a Cw transmitter though, if you didn't know the code.
:   Now, it is possible that we will never have a nuclear war, things look gre
at
: in Russia right now {hi}. And if we do have a nuclear war it is possible a f
ew
: radios will survive and you won't need to build one {hi}. And we all know th
at
: with so many hams off the air, the packet & RTTY networks are going to be le
ss
: crowded and working just fine {hi}.

: I guess you're right, we don't need code {hi}.

: 73 de KB7ADL

  This was crossposted to rec.radio.cb and rec.radio.scanner.  This thread
is off topic in both groups.  Please adjust your Newsgroups: and Followup
To: lines in any future posts......

Thanks

--
 John L. Wilkerson Jr...    [e-mail]

      "Political Correctness is for mindless sheep.. Speak up how
_you_ want, not how others say you should"


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:27 1996
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In <4ebuc6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) writes:
>In article <4e594v$[e-mail]>,
>   [e-mail] (John Wilkerson) wrote:
>
>>
>>This thread is off-topic in rec.radio.cb and rec.radio.scanner.  Please
>>omit the off topic groups in future posts... Thank you
>
>
>The modification of Amateur radio equipment is also off topic for rec.cb and
>rec.scanner, not to mention that it's illegal. Please REFRAME from talking
>about illegal activity in the future.
>
>Or quit complaining.

Modification of amateur radio equipment is not illegal. Modification of Citize
ns
Band Radios is illegal.

73 de KC7GNM
Greg
/ex



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From: [e-mail] (Todd Little)
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In article <4eh4js$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] wrote:

> Modification of amateur radio equipment is not illegal. Modification of Citi
zens
> Band Radios is illegal.

Wrong again.  Modification of CB radios is legal, but it invalidates
the type acceptance of the radio making it illegal to *use* it once
modified on the Citizen's Band.

73,
Todd
N9MWB



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:29 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill DuBroff)
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
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In article <4ejipc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...


:>While it can be demonstrated there are modes more "efficient"
;>than cw,

Now you're getting it Vince.


 the task is to show that eliminating the Morse Code,
and easing requirements in general for the theory exams, will
:>benefit the Amateur Service.


I have not seen anyone suggest eliminating the code requirement and
easing the theory exams.  In fact, just the opposite - eliminate the code
requirement and increase the difficulty of the theory exams.

Bill, KF4ECX



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:31 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Weir)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DSP Noise Filter - Which is Best????
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:38:59 GMT
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>>    I am contemplating the purchase of an DSP Noise Filter and wonder if
>>anyone has any suggestions and experience with any of them???
>>
>>          Thanks, Ken  (K8JWC)

From another perspective ... does anybody have a reference (or even
better, a bibliography) on DSP Design For Dummies?  I've been touted
that DSP is the greatest thing since sliced bread and bottled beer and
am trying to find out how to apply it to my version of POTS (Plain Old
radioTelephone Signals).  Remember, I'm an analog RF cat in a digital
room full of rocking chairs, so one-syllable words are important.

Jim



Jim Weir VP Engineering  | You bet your sweet patootie I speak
RST Engineering          | for the company.  I OWN the freakin'
Grass Valley CA 95945    | company.
voice/fax [phone]   | AR Adv. WB6BHI               Cessna 182A N73CQ
[e-mail]         | Comm'l Pilot & CFI Airplane/Glider  A&P Mechanic



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:31 1996
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From: [e-mail](Bill Patton )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS: 1921 Westinghouse Aeriola Sr. - 1st tube type made
Date: 27 Jan 1996 00:37:54 GMT
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I have the following for sale:

1 - 1921 Westinghouse Aeriola, Sr. radio (first tube type made)
licensed for amateur and experimental use. This is before the first
commercial radio station (KDKA - Pittsburgh) went on the air. Great
condition. New Tube......Runs on 22╜ volt battery and 6 volt battery.
Needs long wire antenna....Has earphones....Best offer over $500

Bill Patton
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (PATRICK STODDARD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FS TH-75A, TH-77A service manuals
Date: 28 Jan 1996 17:35:08 GMT
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(Manuals are for sale or swap one for a Kenwood TH-55AT 1200MHz
HT service manual)


Thanks!

(Also reachable on packet [e-mail])
--
Patrick E. Stoddard           Internet:  [e-mail]
Glendale, Arizona, U.S.A.     Facsimile: [phone]
                              ICBM:      33.3 N 112.0 W



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:33 1996
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Status of Vality Callsigns?
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 96 20:32:52 +700
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Sorry to ask, since it must come up continually, but what is the status of
vanity call signs?

-- David Barnes  KD6DMS



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ECMAASS)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics,sci.electronics.misc,alt.cellular-phone-tech,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for Digital PLL/Receiver chips!
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Motorola makes several digital PLL and receiver chip products.

I can't find the original message, but please let me know if you still
need information or samples, and what you need, and I think I can help.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:35 1996
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From: [e-mail](Dave Bushong )
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Date: 27 Jan 1996 01:52:08 GMT
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In <4dulqc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Burt is like the pot calling the kettle black. Usenet guidelines call for sig
natures

Over, and over, and over again.  He drinks himself into blindness, his "wife"
kicks him out of bed because he's snorring, he can't (or doesn't know how to)
work a straight key, and instead of getting on the air, he heads for the
keyboard and pollutes one of several internet groups.   Burt is a "reverse ace
"
as he's been killfiled by more people than anyone else.

Sadly, he usually forgets what he has posted when the morning rolls around and

his ego won't let him admit that he's a sad, lonely drunk without a clue.  The
n
he accuses others of causing the problems that he has to live with because of
his lack of judgement while he's ethanol-enhanced.

One of these days he's going to piss off someone like the guy who shot
up the
abortion clinic, or the guy who blew up the building in Oklahoma, or
any of the
postal workers we hear about who go get an Uzi, or the guy in Calif. a
couple
months ago who shot those three hams that he worked with; and burt will
get his
brains blown out.  I don't think much of burt, but I really don't want
him to be
harmed.  I doubt that everyone else he's irritated feels the same way,
and it
will be a sad day when some lunatic blows him away because of his
inflammatory
words.

Ignore him; he's a grown-up with a child's mind.

73,
Dave KZ1O

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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike P.)
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Subject: Homodyne detection - how does it work?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 14:39:03 GMT
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As I understand it, homodyne detection consists of mixing
a modulated signal with itself.  However, if I have two
versions of a signal that differ only in phase:

f1(t) = a(t)*cos(wct+p1)
f2(t) = a(t)*cos(wct+p2)

the product (after a LPF) is:

a^2(t)*cos(p1-p2)

My question is: how is the envelope recovered; i.e., how
do I get back a(t) once it has been squared?  Or is it
even possible?  Any help would be appreciated.

     - Mike



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (J. D. Beischel)
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Subject: Re: Homodyne detection - how does it work?
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First, they can't reproduce and second, be careful when
experimenting with homodynes.  Wear rubber gloves or condoms to
protect yourself.

(Sorry, couldn't resist injecting a little humor)



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (VINY N1VC)
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Subject: WANT YIG
Date: 28 Jan 1996 17:08:46 -0500
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Need Yig Oscillator for BWO replacement in spectrum analyzer.

VINYN1VC


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Theodor Johannes Schmitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Licensing/Repeaters in Norway
Date: 29 Jan 96 10:41:34 GMT
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I am planning tospend my next holdays in southern/mid
norway and I want to take my 144/430 HT with me.

Is there a reciprocal licensing agreement (CEPT) between Norway
and Germany ?
If not, where can I ge a guest licence from ?

Can someone send me a list of 144/440 (FM phone) repeaters ?



73,
Theo (DK9WH)

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        I never used to be able to finish anything but now I


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:41 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vidar Hynne)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Licensing/Repeaters in Norway
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 20:03:12 GMT
Organization: PowerTech Internet
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[e-mail] (Theodor Johannes Schmitz) wrote:

>Is there a reciprocal licensing agreement (CEPT) between Norway
>and Germany ?

Yes there is.

>Can someone send me a list of 144/440 (FM phone) repeaters ?

Sri, no list around here. Maybe someone else?
Have a nice stay in Norway

Vidar, LA1DBA



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:42 1996
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From: [e-mail](Dave Bushong )
Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: PGP authentication - why use it?
Date: 28 Jan 1996 16:11:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Lines: 49
Message-ID: <4eg76l$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-nas-nh1-13.ix.netcom.com
X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Jan 28  8:11:01 AM PST 1996
Xref: news.epix.net alt.security.pgp:47251 rec.radio.amateur.misc:97398

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The subject of authentication and PGP-signatures has come up from
time to time, both for postings on the internet and on packet. Here
is a good reason to use PGP for something other than encrypting
messages.

My original posting, in which I said "I don't think much of burt,
but I really don't want him to be harmed" included a PGP signature,
which authenticates that it was really from me.  One word, one byte,
even one bit altered would cause it to fail the CRC that is included
with the posting.

The miscreant to which I referred altered my posting, and then
followed up to it, with the wording changed to "I don't think much
of burt, I  would love to see him dead but rather slowly harmed."

While most people saw right through my troll, I PGP-signed the posting,
knowing that he would try to alter it and cause some trouble. I don't
usually PGP-sign my postings.  I wanted to see if he would leave the
authentication on or not.  He merely deleted that part.

A missing PGP signature is only apparent if it's the custom of
the poster to always include a signature.  If anyone saw just the
doctored version, they would have no way of knowing what was really
said, and what was the fraudulent part.

For what it's worth, both the original article and the doctored one
are still available on the server if you want to compare the two.  The
copy that he tried to send to my postmaster was the doctored version
also.  He doesn't seem to know that I'm the postmaster at one of those
sites :)

Discussion anyone?  And should this be moved to .policy or somewhere
else?

Dave
KZ1O

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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:43 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Arnoud "Galactus" Engelfriet)
Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: PGP authentication - why use it?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:43:34 +0100
Organization: Usenet Central Administration
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----

In article <4eg76l$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail](Dave Bushong ) wrote:
> A missing PGP signature is only apparent if it's the custom of
> the poster to always include a signature.  If anyone saw just the
> doctored version, they would have no way of knowing what was really
> said, and what was the fraudulent part.

A very good point, and that's why I always sign outgoing Usenet articles
and E-mail. You have to make it known too, of course, so that others will
recognize a message without your signature as something strange or
possibly faked.

> Discussion anyone?  And should this be moved to .policy or somewhere
> else?

I wasn't aware we had a .policy group yet. :-) I'm still working on the
RFD, the CFV will take another month or two, I'm afraid.

Galactus

- --
To find out more about PGP, send mail with HELP PGP in the SUBJECT line to me.
E-mail: [e-mail] - Please PGP encrypt your mail if you can.
Finger [e-mail] for public key (key ID 0x416A1A35).
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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:45 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Sarrio)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: <<FREE Ham Classified page->with Search Engine opens on the WEB>>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:15:30 -0800
Organization: Raymond Sarrio Co.
Lines: 24
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: host46.cyberg8t.com

The Raymond Sarrio Company╣s Ham Radio WWW site is proud to announce a
FREE Ham Radio classified advertising page at
http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html. This new classified page will allow Hams
to find equipement with the help of a search engine--no need to scroll
through 100╣s of listing before you find that special piece of gear. Plus,
when you find the gear you'er interested in, you are also provided with
easy point-and-click e-mail access, directly to the Ham that listed the
item.

For those Hams with gear to sell, take note! there is NO charge to list
your equipment within Ham Classifieds, and there will be no posting time
delays.  Your posting(s) will go on-line in our classified search engine
immediately. All you need do is fill out a simple forms page, and upon its
(point-and-click) submission your │For Sale▓ classified is immediately
on-line.

I will be purging the classified listings initially, about once every
month, but that timeline will shorten as our classified numbers grow.

Give it a try, and let me know how you like it (we are still beta testing)
73╣s Ray
--
The Raymond Sarrio Co. a full feature Ham Radio Storefront on tth WWW at http:
//www.csz.com/sarrio in association with Brillar Enterprises http://win-win.co
m/brillar an Extensive Discount CD-Rom Catalog!



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:46 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : Radio Shack Pro-62 hand held scanner
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82
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Radio Shack Pro-62 hand held scanner, MINT in box with manual, etc.,
imcludes optional soft leather case and AC wall wart adaptor/charger.
Includes shipping to 48 states.  Please make and sincere offer via
E-mail.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:47 1996
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From: [e-mail] (James Lyons)
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Subject: Re: ***ONE OF THE BEST HAM WEB PAGES ON THE INTERNET. TRY IT OUT!!***
Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:49:59 -0500
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada
Lines: 24
Message-ID: <4e0m8n$[e-mail]>
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On 18 Jan 1996, Ken Durham wrote:

> In article <4dk7io$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >Hello all:
> >
> >      In the last message that I sent over usenet I forgot to include my
> >url for my web site. The URL is "http://www.dfw.net/~dmclean".
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
`
> I tried this URL yesterday and again this morning with no results. Netscsape
> keeps contacting the host forever. Please try your page from another site an
d
> see if it can be accessed.
>
> Ken Durham K5MBV  [e-mail]
>
>
>
I had no problem accessing it yesterday (Sunday) afternoon, twice ...
once via Netscape and once via Lynx.

Jim Lyons



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:50 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re:QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiquette]
Date: 25 Jan 96 13:34:21 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
Lines: 23
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: [e-mail]

This contest station operator also has a Type A personality but I also confirm

EVERY card sent to me.  I do however sort them into two piles for processing.

If it has an SASE it usually goes back out the next day.  If no SASE, I prepar
e
the return card but then it waits until I get to the post office for post card

stamps.  Usually around bill paying time at the first of the month.  Why do I
confirm every card sent to me.  I'll tell you why.  As a novice in the mid 70'
s
from the tenth call district I managed to work all 50 states.  I was working
for my WAS.  I was able to confirm 49 states.  In that last state, which I
won't mention but after all these years I still remember, I had worked not one

but two stations.  Do you think I could confirm that last state even with
SASE's.  No.  QSL etiquette I guess didn't exist or was it that type A
personality bullshit?  Shortly after upgrading and moving to another call
district I no longer have the opportunity to chase that last state from where
I
confirmed 49 states.  New QTH and new call, I needed to start over again.
Because of my busy schedule I no longer chase awards like WAS but others may s
o
I make sure I confirm EVERY card sent to me.  I don't want to be somebody 50th

state that won't confirm.  Something about do unto others.... I'm just as busy

as the next guy but it only takes a few minutes (if your records are organized
)
to confirm and fill out cards and send them back.  Sorry, I don't buy the "I'm

too busy" crap.
David Bourque
WB1FLD
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lee Kokot)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this newsgroup--and Prodigy and AOL
Date: 28 Jan 1996 09:24:02 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Lines: 16
Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <4eg7v2$[e-mail]>
References: <4dgmk0$[e-mail]>
Keywords: compuserve prodigy aol news group
X-Posted-By: [e-mail]

<[e-mail]> writes:

>    I have been basically happy with Compuserve. I have been using them
>since almost their beginning, but I wonder what it will take to make them
>fix Wincim 2.0.1. Too many bugs and too slow!!


Just do what I do:  dial in with a standard terminal program, and
bypass the cim interface completely.  The settings should be N71,
although I've found a setting of N81, and "strip high bit" argument
works as well.  Enjoy:  Compuserve is the only one of the big three
that lets you access them this way!
--
Regards, Lee Kokot
Encino, CA                               [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:52 1996
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news
From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What's with this newsgroup--and Prodigy and AOL
Date: 30 Jan 1996 00:37:01 GMT
Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Lines: 14
Message-ID: <4ejp7d$[e-mail]>
References: <4dgmk0$[e-mail]> <4eg7v2$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Bill Newkirk)
NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-42.iu.net
X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2

In <4eg7v2$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Lee Kokot) writes
:
>works as well.  Enjoy:  Compuserve is the only one of the big three
>that lets you access them this way!
>Regards, Lee Kokot

enjoy it while you can -- apparently compuserve plans to go proprietary in the
near future when they kill off the decsystem 20's or what ever big iron they'v
e
been using in favor of newer hardware running microsoft nt.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:52 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Chip set for SSB Short Wave Transmitter/Receiver
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:28:07 GMT
Organization: Survival Power
Lines: 11
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Reply-To: Bill Wright
NNTP-Posting-Host: survival.demon.co.uk
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: survival.demon.co.uk
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

Chip set for SSB Short Wave Transmitter/Receiver

I am initiating a new design for a SSB Short Wave Transmitter/Receiver
operating at 4.005 Meg.  A chip set is required to form the base of
the design.  Pre production prototype is scheduled for completion June
96.

Would be grateful for any information or help.




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Cdrom Info)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: NEW! Ham Radio CDROM
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 06:20:01 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Information Plus BBS
Distribution: world
Lines: 18


                  NEW! - January 1996 Edition
                  --------------------
  Ham Radio CDROM with Windows based Callsign Database
  ----------------------------------------------------

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*  Callsign Database with Windows, DOS, OS/2, UNIX interfaces
   (Over 1,000,000 callsigns from 12 countries)

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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:54 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail] (Ernest Ware)
Subject: Speech for TS440
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ecw-pc.ssd.ray.com
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (Administrator)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: Raytheon Company
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:02:08 GMT
Lines: 3

I am looking for a VS-1 or VS-2 speech board for a Kenwood TS440

Thanks [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:55 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: *** CHECK OUT WHIZBANGS & GIZMOS ***
Date: 25 Jan 1996 13:46:01 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct, Inc.
Lines: 9
Message-ID: <4e81ip$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: s20.phxslip4.indirect.com
X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.)

Check out our NEW Homepage at http://www.versacom.com/www/louburke

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Currently available are:
     Touchtone Decoder with Hybrid for duplex operation
     Audio Power Amp (10 watts)
     Electronic Thermometer with Alarm Circuit
     Audio Distribution Amp



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:56 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: 6 Meter Repeater Freqs.
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:11:02 GMT
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: wd1v.mv.com
Lines: 18

Does anyone know of an on-line listing of repeater frequencies?

I'm interested in the location, input/output frequencies, and tones.

73,

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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:57 1996
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From: Gerry Paquette <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL INFO PZ1DG
Date: 28 Jan 1996 18:18:47 GMT
Lines: 6
Message-ID: <4egem7$[e-mail]>
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Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit)
To: rec.radio.amateur.misc

I am looking for QSL information for PZ1DG but so far have not been able to lo
cate
this ham; would anyone have his address/qsl info.  Tnx es 73

- Gerry ([e-mail])




From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:58 1996
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!gatech!concert!rti!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Joe Simpson)
Subject: FT-5200 out-of-band receive?  Forgot how...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (USENET News System)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: Joe's Bar and Grill
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:57:27 GMT
Lines: 9
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Just got my FT-5200 back from Yaesu repair, and receive is  now
limited to 144-148.  I used to have it opened up to get the weather
service freqs, but I don't remember how I did it.  Anybody know what
the key sequence is for this mod?

Thanks...

  -Joe KD4LLV



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:33:59 1996
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!interactive.net!winternet.com!news.minn.net!skypoint.com!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!news.delphi.com!bclongwell
From: [e-mail] (Brian Longwell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IC-706 Noise Blanker
Date: 26 Jan 1996 04:14:16 GMT
Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation
Lines: 15
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1e.delphi.com
X-To: Brian Longwell <[e-mail]>

I just got an Icom IC-706 for the car.  I like it, especially the remote
control head feature, but the noise blanker is ..., well, blank.  I used to
use an IC-735 mobile, and it had a very effective blanker with level control.

I could turn on the wipers and drive under a HV power line and copy the "fb
OM, ant here is ..." downright fb, gangbusters, cruise-control copy.  The
IC-706, however, has a placebo noise blanker.

Anyone else ?  Suggestions to tweak it ?  Outboard processors ?  (Please, no
correct-the-problem-at-the-source suggestions, I can fix the wiper motor, but
those power lines ...)

Thanks

Brian Longwell
WB2DSH


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:34:00 1996
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From: [e-mail] (WB7ASR)
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Subject: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
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Technically speaking, morse code communications is outdated at
todays communicatios standards. However in my opion, most of the
people complaining about having a morse code requirement for amateur
radio are the ones who are just too lazy to learn the code. They are
just looking for something for nothing and don't what to put any effort
into getting a HF amateur radio license. I call these people "Cry-Babys!"

Having morse code requirements helps establish a higher standard of
amateur radio operators within the amateur radio community. If you
"earn" your license, you will have more "respect" for it!

I hope the FCC never does away with code requirements.





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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
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[e-mail] (WB7ASR) wrote:
>
>Technically speaking, morse code communications is outdated at
>todays communicatios standards.

This much we can agree with.


> However in my opion, most of the
>people complaining about having a morse code requirement for amateur
>radio are the ones who are just too lazy to learn the code.

This is where the agreement ends, I'm afraid.  You just admitted that
Morse code is outdated.  Then, in the very next sentence, you accuse
people of being "lazy" for refusing to learn that which is, in your own
opinion, outdated and which they would obviously then have no use for.


> They are just looking for something for nothing and don't what to put
any effort into getting a HF amateur radio license. I call these people
"Cry-Babys!"

And I call you "ignorant", sir.  Sounds like you're just spouting the
official party line here.  Where did you get your scripts from?  Was it
the ARRL, or did you get it from "YE OLDE FAHRTZ" at your local ham club?



>Having morse code requirements helps establish a higher standard of
>amateur radio operators within the amateur radio community. If you
>"earn" your license, you will have more "respect" for it!

Actually, I would have more "respect" for someone who realizes that Morse
is an antiquated mode of communication and who therefore works to abolish
it as a mandatory testing element.


>I hope the FCC never does away with code requirements.

I think you're gonna be disappointed on this one.  I'd put my money on 5-
10 years, and probably closer to 5.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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Subject: Re: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
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In article <4ej6fh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...

>Technically speaking, morse code communications is outdated at
>todays communicatios standards. However in my opion, ..... I call these peopl
e
"Cry-Babys!"

Some called the pilgrams cry babies.

>Having morse code requirements helps establish a higher standard of
>amateur radio operators within the amateur radio community. If you
>"earn" your license, you will have more "respect" for it!

I agree, you should have to earn your license. The current tests are a joke.
If a test were given that forced one to reason, half the current hams would
have never received a licence.  Those would be the half that are always saying

" memorize the study guide, memorize the Morse code".  I have a computer
sitting on my desk that can do both very well.  should we give it a license?


>I hope the FCC never does away with code requirements.

This is the USA, you are entitled to your opinion and have the right to
voice it like every one else and that is something worth celebrating.


KEVIN
KB2WLS



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From: [e-mail] (Bill DuBroff)
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Subject: Re: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
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In article <4ej6fh$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
:>
:>Technically speaking, morse code communications is outdated at
;>todays communicatios standards.

So, why keep outdated stuff?

However in my opion, most of the people complaining about having a morse
code requirement for amateur radio are the ones who are just too lazy to
learn the code. They are just looking for something for nothing and don't
what to put any effort into getting a HF amateur radio license. I call
these people "Cry-Babys!"


I for one know code, but that does not mean that I think it should be a
requirement.  By the way, I also don't think one should demonstrate the
ability to ride a horse as a prerequisite to getting a driver's license.

Bill, KF4ECX



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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:34:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
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Amsat is debating having a yearly contest on the satellites, something besides
Field Day.

Should there be one?

73 de KB7ADL





From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:34:07 1996
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I also say NO to contest on any of the birds

Todd,
You are right about the downlink power budget
I have heard may stations on ao-13 who were several DB LOUDER than the beacon
I have also seen the effects of a strong signal on other weaker signals..
Last year I and others tried to work a station who we could just barely hear
I listened to others who attempted to work that staion with little
luck. That station could not hear them . Their signals on the downlink
side were 4-4 and right up there with
the beacon. that station could not hear then. I doubt if he could even
copy his own dowlink signal
Another station came up I'll bet he was at leat 8 - 12 db stronger
than the beacon since he was about 3 s-units  more than the beacon was

He made his contact and then that was all he could do was brag to
the other station about how good he was  :->
needles to say I then let him know about his bad operating practice !

What can we do about that ??

Gary Watts  de  N0OXV
Kansas City Mo
81 GL1100I


On 30 Jan 1996, Todd Little wrote:

> In article <4ek07i$[e-mail]>
> [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) wrote:
>
> >
> > Amsat is debating having a yearly contest on the satellites, something bes
ides
> > Field Day.
>
> Absolutely not.  Basically the person with the strongest uplink
> wins at the expense of everyone else.  Although the transponders
> may be 100-200 kHz wide, they have a fixed power budget and
> operate in a linear fashion.  As a result several strong signals
> would dominate the transponder and push everyone else's signals
> into the mud.  Aren't there enough contests already?
>
> 73,
> Todd
> N9MWB
>
>
>



From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:34:08 1996
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In article <4ejqb8$[e-mail]>, . says...
>
>Ever since ICOM decided to delete the 800 - 900 MHZ coverage from its IC-R710
0
>receiver,
>older R7100's demand premium prices on the used market. ICOM insisted that th
e
>R7100 was
>now made in two versions, one for the general public and another (with 800-90
0
>coverage) for
>government and law enforcement agencies. The extended coverage version also s
ells
>for $200-$300 more! Per discussions with ICOM there were very clear that this
 was
>done to comply with
>legal requirements that prohibit new scanners from be capable of receiving
>cellular telephone
>transmissions. My opposition has always been why we should be penalized if we
 want
>to listen to
>local law enforcement agencies within the 800 MHz band. Personally, I have no

>interest in
>listening to cell phones when a receiver as competent as the R7100 opens up a
lmost
>2 ghz of
>spectrum.
>
>I recently noticed that Grove now offers the R7100 with "restored" coverage s
o I
>set out to find
>out how it was done. Performing the following procedure will allow you to lis
ten
>to local law
>enforcement with the 800-900 mHz portion of the spectrum. Remove the screws t
hat
>hold the top
>cover and disconnect the speaker. Next, remove the two flat head screws that
hold
>the metal
>shield covering the rear of the front panel.. On the rear apron, remove the t
wo
>screws that hold
>the upper chassis to the lower chassis. Finally, remove the antenna cable tha
t is
>connected to the
>circuit board assembly in the rear right corner of the R7100. Referring to th
e
>owners manual,
>CAREFULLY separate the upper half of the receiver, inverting it, setting it b
eside
>the radio as
>illustrated in the owners manual. Be careful not to pull on the cables that
>connect the upper
>portion to the lower half of the radio. In the front of the owners manual the
re is
>a small paragraph
>that explains the various jumper options for the R7100's CI-V interface optio
ns.
>It's on this board
>that the modification is done. The board is located behind the "M-SET" switch
. The
>jumpers are
>actually circular pads, split vertically. A drop of solder constitutes a jump
er -
>no solder = no
>jumper.
>
>Locate jumper "A6" as illustrated in the owners manual. Above "A6" you'll see
 a
>small ball of
>solder. Using solder wick, CAREFULLY remove the solder, exposing the split
>circular pad
>beneath. The space between the pads is very small so be sure to remove all th
e
>solder. Reassemble
>the radio and you're done!
>
>Blackshadow
>

   Many thanks my friend who ever you are.  I am curious to know who "Grove" i
s that
you mention.  Could you comment on this?  I am in the Two-way radio service bu
siness
and have need of this blocked range of frequencies to monitor for interference
 . I
thought for a while I was going to have to resort to a R9000 which is awfully
expensive.  Again many thanks.  I would like to hear from you here or on my E-
Mail
[e-mail]



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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:34:11 1996
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Does any one know where I can get a copyof propman or another propagation
forecaster?  I have never used on and any comments would be appreciated.

Tnx, 73

Dean  N2TNN


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     HELP ME!
     I need schematic diagram of RANGER tranceiver (RCI-2950).
     Please send to:
Box 980, 185020, Petrozavodsk-20, Republic of Karelia, Russia.
     73! RK1NA (ex UN1CD)
     Konstantin Gvozdev
     Thanks you!




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Does anyone know where I can get a service manual for a Yaesu FT-101EE?

Thanks -

73 - WA6TPJ



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From: [e-mail] (Ralph Lindberg & Ellen Winnie)
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Subject: Do we need some new newsgoups ?(Re: new bunch of newsgroups appeared: alt.ham-radio.*
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (R R M Tweek) wrote:

>
>Yep...  I emailed Brian a post I made to alt.config, questioning
>WHY he duplicated the rec.radio.amateur.* hierarchy.  The response
>I got back from him was They've existed for a long time before his
>newgrouping.  I replied back asking him the same question once again.
>
>I haven't gotten a response.
  He has now (over in news.admin.misc I think) admitted that he had
newgrouped them -some- time ago and just learned they hadn't been created,
so he newgrouped them again. Some-one else has rmgrouped them, so their
propagation just dropped a bit (my newsgroup accepted all newsrgoup and
ignores all rmgroups, yup we have a -lot- of newsgroups here, almost 20K
worth).
  This brings up,  do we need any of them here in rec.radio.amateur.* I
think so, I had been planning on asking one of these days about the
interest in a vhf-uhf newsgroup (to cover FM, ATV, repeaters, weak signal
work etc) and a binaries newsgroup (I am getting tired of seeing jpegs,
and gifs in the newsrgroups)

Ralph

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On 29 Jan 1996 07:05:10 -0500, [e-mail] (Michael Crestohl) wrote:

>
>RE: Old Farts!
>
>Then again, Jeffrey, some look upon the term as an accolade!  Just ask
>"Boatanchor Bob"!
>
>73,
>
>Michael Crestohl, KH6KD/W1
>
>waiting for the 2nd gate to open!!!
>
Of course it's an accolade. Old ones no longer smell like the young ones.

Mac - AD0J - First licensed in 1951



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Subject: St. Louis Hamfest
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Does anyone know anything about the St. Louis hamfest this weekend.
Where is it...times, etc.  Please reply to [e-mail]

Thanks,

Keith Little
KA0AVJ



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Hi ,
I am a new member of this newsgroup (in fact I do not have local netnews
service but I am subscribed to ucsd mailing list).
My question is - does anybody know any source (magazine ,book or whatever)
concerning metal locators - design, fabrication, problems etc.May be this is
not the right place to ask non-ham-related questions but your discussions of
RF equipment seem promissing. i
Thanks in advance.i

Ch.Dilloff
Tech. University - Sofia
BULGARIA


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:34:18 1996
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From: [e-mail]
To  : HF@WW

SV2UA/TPK 1.82 Msg #:581  Date:22-01-96  Time:1:55Z

     AFTER A MESSAGE SENT BY DL2FDF, IN WHICH HE ASKED FOR RAISING FUNDS IN
ORDER  TO  BUY  RADIO  EQUIPMENT AND ANTENNAS FOR MOUNT ATHOS'S MONK APOLLO
SV2ASP/A,  AFTER  PERSONAL  CONTACT WITH FATHER APOLLO, HE ASKED ME TO LET
YOU KNOW THE FOLLOWING:
     1. HE NEVER ASKED ANYONE TO GIVE HIM MONEY OR TO RAISE FUNDS.
     2. HE DOES NOT KNOW THE MESSAGE SENDER DL2FDF OR THE REFERED IN THE MES
SAGE DL9NEA AND DJ0CD, AND HE NEVER HAD ANY CONTACT WITH THEM.
     3. HE ASKS ANY AMATEURS WHO HAVE GIVEN ANY MONEY TO THEM TO ASK
THEIR MONEY BACK.
     4. IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS HE HIMSELF WILL SEND A MESSAGE.


                       73 de GEORGE  SV2UA.
                           TEL [phone]



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From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:34:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Need Clegg FM-27B manual + any Clegg info
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In article <4eerqe$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary Kantor) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Mike Morris <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>I had an FM27B - and discovered it was a repackaged Midland 13-510.
>>Just like Clegg repackaged the 13-509 220mhz radio.
>
>Mike, I DID have an FM-27B and it was nothing like ANY other radio.  Certainl
y
>NOT the 13-510.  The 13-510 was a PLL synthesized radio, much the same
>technology used in the radios of today, except without the microprocessor.
>
>The FM-27B on the other hand, was of a technology called a "Crystalplexor"
>which used several crystal oscillators combined with a single vfo to tune
>the frequency of the radio.  That, coupled with poor filtering, is why the
>FM-27B became known as the 'WAN' or Worked All Neighbors radio.  Looking at
>it's output on a spectrum analyzer made you think you were at the Dayton
>Hamvention looking at the two meter band with a gain antenna. :)

I'd like to echo Gary's sentiments. I too had a FM-27B, and what he
says is correct, though technically it didn't have a VFO, rather it
had multiple VXOs. The only dirtier rig I've owned was the Regency HR-2.
And at least it didn't drift, the Clegg did. It was certainly a novel
radio for its time, but not something I'd want to put back on the air
today.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Tue Jan 30 16:34:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City
Date: 30 Jan 1996 06:02:42 GMT
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Well, if they're shutting it off during the period 11:30 pm to 6 am,
then the channel pair is obviously available for another repeater to operate
during that period.  Put one up.  It's not hard to build a repeater; you
might even be able to buy one.  And it will certainly make its point.
You can hardly be accused of interfering with a repeater that is shut
off, can you?

Here in San Diego, some years ago, one of the local repeater barons made
a point of shutting off his repeater whenever he didn't like what was
being said on it.  His privilege, entirely.  However, another repeater
soon was in operation on the pair, with an output sensing receiver - if
the primary repeater didn't come up within 1.5 seconds of the input
being activated, the secondary repeater did.  Most people got the hang
of waiting two seconds before speaking right quick.

This is one of the few social problems that can be solved by technology.
        - Brian


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom.tech,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1 km range wireless telephone product available?
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A good 900mhz phone with a nice antenna on the roof works great in my
situation!!!

[e-mail] (John R. Ruckstuhl) wrote:

>I checked rec.radio.amateur.misc FAQ; no luck there, perhaps there's a
>better place to check?  What's the longest range wireless telephone
>available without special FCC licensing (amateur radio) required for
>operation?

>I want a mobile telephone to carry around a small college campus.
>A range of 1 km in bldgs around a base-station is probably about right.

>It appears that the expected air-time would make the ordinary cell-phone
>solution cost-prohibitive.

>I know the 900 MHz telephones available, and I'll investigate whether
>their range is adequate, but,
>is there another technology I should be looking at?

>Is there a clear winner or product line among 900 MHz telephones?

>For a solution, I wouldn't blink at $400, and would probably be able to
>spend much more than that.

>I'm hoping that some kind readers can point me towards the right
>product-line.
>Thanks for any recommendations,
>John Ruckstuhl
>--
>John R. Ruckstuhl                   [e-mail]




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>From /PN=Scott.C.Werling/O=wallace/PRMD=iadps/ADMD=attmail/C=us/ Thu Jan 25 0
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Anyone know of a listserver that I could subscribe to for sale/trade specifica
lly for ham equipment?   I only have e-mail capabilities at this
account.

Scott
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:18 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Math's notes: undiscovered 50 GHz + ?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <4e6vvd$[e-mail]>, [e-mail](Dave Bushong
 ) writes:
> I just read an editorial in CQ about how we are facing a situation that
> hams faced during the early part of this century.  It was that hams
> were given the (unusable) band spectrum of 2 MHz and above.
>
> Back then, no one thought they could resonate anything at 2 million
> cycles per second, not in a way that anyone would care.
>
> Right now, they say "100 GHz?  It's unusable!"
>
> Back then, they said (well, whatever they said, it made 3-30 MHz
> considered 'High Frequency').
>
> The US government gave hams 2 MHz and everything above, because it was
> something that no one knew how to use.  Now look at it.
>
> We have been given "50 GHz and above".  It's almost a taunt.  I have no
> idea how to use this during the next 50 years.  I hope I live long
> enough to say at least that I was looking toward the future.
>
> 73,
> Dave KZ1O

Last week or so I read a post from the league that mentioned that part of our
allocation near 70 Ghz was to be reallocated in order to use for vehicular
collision avoidance systems. I think that this may actually be a boon for
us. Soon after it's deployment, cheap 70Gig Gunn heads will
be available, and I bet they'll be easy to move to our allocation.
WBFM at 70Ghz will be as easy to do by then as it is at 10 now.

Comments?

73,
Joe - AA3GN
--
Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA
[e-mail]                        ..speaking only for myself, of course..


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From: Jim Fellows <jimf>
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
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[e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) wrote:
>In article <4e2j9r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bruce Herder) wrote
:
>
>Keep The Code.
>
>Cw is like the spare tire in the trunk of your car.  You may never use it, bu
t
>when you do need it, it sure comes in handy.  I have made a lot of DX contact
s
>on CW that I would not have been able to make on phone. Not because of weak
>signals, but because the station I contacted did not speak English and I did
>not speak their language.  We both knew CW though, and every CW prosign and
>Q signal was clearly understood by each of us.
>
>The main reason to keep the code is for a situation that I hope never happens
,
>but it could happen.  And that reason is a complete National disaster.  We
>have never had a disaster that has affected the entire country at once. WE
>have had hurricanes here, earthquakes there, and some flooding all around, bu
t
>never a nation wide emergency.  A Nuclear war is one emergency that would
>affect the whole country.  And in a Nuclear war, sensitive electronic circuit
s
>as found in our radio's and computers would be Zapped, making that equipment
>useless.  Now the key to restoring order after a disaster is communications.

>And as a Ham, you have agreed to help out. (see part 97) Now you have to find

>a radio that survived the disaster, perhaps you will have to build one.  The
>simpliest transmitter to build is one that sends a CW signal, only need a few

>parts to do it.  You can use a wire for an antenna.  It really wouldn't do an
y
>good to build a Cw transmitter though, if you didn't know the code.
>  Now, it is possible that we will never have a nuclear war, things look grea
t
>in Russia right now {hi}. And if we do have a nuclear war it is possible a fe
w
>radios will survive and you won't need to build one {hi}. And we all know tha
t
>with so many hams off the air, the packet & RTTY networks are going to be les
s
>crowded and working just fine {hi}.
>
>I guess you're right, we don't need code {hi}.
>
>73 de KB7ADL


Vince,

Since I have seen this post three times I just can't ignore it even though I
wanted to.  My first response was "Oh brother!" but now...

#1 What is your point?  All these {hi}s just confuse the issue.  I'm having
trouble telling what is toungue-in-cheek and what is your point.  I just can't
believe a person would stretch the argument for pro-code to this extreme point
of being ludicrous.

#2 If this really is what you feel, are you a member of one of those lunatic
militia groups hiding up in Montana that we here about on the evening news?

Jim



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[e-mail] (Brian Kantor) wrote:
>Hmm.  So should I create alt.ham-radio.binaries - and would it get used?
>Or should that be alt.binaries.ham-radio?
>       - Brian

I've been on the verge of creating alt.radio.amateur.flame for quite
a long time.  The problem, most folks that should use a group like
that either are (a) too ignorant or (b) too arrogant and therefore
the group wouldn't get used.

--
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Callbook CD-ROM - what da
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To: [e-mail]
Subject: Callbook CD-ROM - what data format?

J>Can someone give me a clue as to the database used for the new Callbook
 >CD-ROM?  There is a main data file in binary, with several .IDX index files.

I do not know but I can say this:  the "Flying Horse" Callbook on CD ROM
is buggy.  Tell me if you have this experience:  when you switch the
mode of search, say from name to callsign, do you get an "out of
resources" error message?  I do all the time.  The only way I found to
get around this is to close the program and the bring it back up again.
I want to make sure that the program is at fault and not my computer.
---
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 * Origin: CyberNet BBS   Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151)

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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:22 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : Azden AZ-61 9A hand held 6 meter transceiver , MINT, hardly used
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Azden AZ-61 A 6 meter hand held transceiver, brand new in box with all
accessories, manual, etc. used about 20 minutes!  includes shipping to
48 states.  $275.00.  Reply via E-Mail, please.



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:23 1996
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From: "Anthony R. Gold" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Hello??? this is KD4DMM  anyone out there?? CQ CQ CQ
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 09:32:20 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr" writes:

> In article <[e-mail]>, "Anthony R. Gold"
>  <[e-mail]> writes:
> > You claim that there are some more Morse Code only sub-bands in the FCC
> > schedule but not where they are.  Are you keeping them secret :-(
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> >    Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
>
> 30 meters

        97.305 Authorized emission types. - (a) An amateur station may
transmit a CW emission on any frequency authorized to the control
operator.

Wave-                        Emission                   Standards.
length                       types                      See 97.307(f)
band       Frequencies       authorized                 paragraph

MF
HF
30 m    Entire band         RTTY,  data                 (3)

        97.307 Emission standards. -

          (f)  (3)     Only a RTTY or data emission using a specified
digital code listed in 97.309(a) of this part may be transmitted.  The
symbol rate must not exceed 300 bauds, or for frequency-shift keying, the
frequency shift between mark and space must not exceed 1 kHz.

[Those `specified codes' include Baudot, ASCII, AMTOR and certain others.]

Regards,
--
   Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM                  email: [e-mail]
                                                [e-mail]
                                        packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:25 1996
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From: John Ferguson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Packet Morse Idents ???
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:14:32 +0000
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Can anybody tell me which countries of the world other than the UK
require periodic transmission of morse idents with Packet operation.

Thanks in advance.
John (G8STW)
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Morris)
Subject: Re: Need Clegg FM-27B manual + any Clegg info
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[e-mail](Randy Reames ) writes:

>I'm still looking for a schematic or whole manual for an old
>Clegg FM-27B, which was one of the first 'synthesized' 2 meter
>FM transceivers. It was manufactured about 1971-1973.

>Any tibits, remembrances, problems, etc. would also be appreciated
>as I am putting together an article on restoring early solid-state
>ham gear.

>Please email to '[e-mail]' or '[e-mail]'.

>Thanks
>Randy Reames
>WA0TKO
>3409 E. 118th Way
>Thornton, Co. 80233

I had an FM27B - and discovered it was a repackaged Midland 13-510.
Just like Clegg repackaged the 13-509 220mhz radio.

--
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Mike Morris                                [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Helene Maxwell)
Subject: Help me find KB8IZM
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KB8IZM

Looking for an old buddy with an old directory (with a bad address).
Can someone e-mail me with Holliday's most recent address?  Thanks & 73

Randy


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:28 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Neal McEwen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need help with parts for bug
Date: 27 Jan 1996 19:09:59 -0600
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Hello Gang,

  I've got some telegraph key restorations going and need a few parts to
  finish up.

1. Bunnell Gold Bug -- need the circuit closing lever and mounting hardware.
2. McElroy A-400 bug -- need thumbpiece and weights.  A-400 or P-500 parts OK
3. Signal Electric Semantic -- need the pendulum stop post.
4. Electro Bug -- need weights.  need one thumbscrew and jam nut.
5. Levinson Radio "Like-A-Flash" -- need finger pieces, binding posts.
6. Logan SPEED-X reverse frame -- need finger pieces
7. Clapp-Eastham -- need binding posts
8. Independent Wireless -- need binding posts

   Would buy parts off your junkers or buy your junkers for the parts.

                   ****  Want Old Telegraph Keys ****
  I am looking for old Vibroplex bugs for my collection.  Also interested
in off-brand bugs, hand keys and pre-1920 telegraph instruments.  Will
purchase or trade my duplicates.  Email for my list of duplicates for trade.

--

73 de K5RW     - Neal McEwen                    - Richardson, TX (Dallas)
  ******** I collect old telgraph and wireless telegraph keys  *********
HomeNet        - [e-mail]           - OS/2 tcp/ip SLIP
HomePage       - http://fohnix.metronet.com/~nmcewen/k5rw.html


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:29 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: I love this hobby!!!
Date: 27 Jan 1996 22:56:59 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I) writes:
>  Last night, I was giving a demonstration to a bunch of
>  Tiger Cubs (6 yo, pre-Boy Scouts) about the wonders of ham
>  radio, propagation, and other neat stuff like Morse Code.
>
>  Flipped on the TS-440S, running into the tribander up 120'
>  above the ground at the U of M Radio Club, and called
>  CQ on 14.250.
>
>  I was immediately answered by a guy in SW Florida who was
>  operating from his car, driving by the Everglades.  We had
>  a nice chat, and the kids (and parents) were summarily
>  impressed.  "Licensing costs HOW much?  Nothing?"
>
>  Upon signing, I was ready to go to the opening of the mtg.
>  when I was called by another gentleman in south FL.  We
>  spoke for a few, and ended up going from S5 to S9+30db in
>  a period of about 2 minutes.
>
>  The kids then proceeded to learn a little about Morse, and
>  I got to send to each other using 49 MHz walkie-talkies.
>
>  They had a VERY good time.  I half-expect their parents to
>  go and get licensed, in fact.
>
>  What a hobby!
>  --
>  Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440
>  ** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas **
>  Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles...
>  72 & 73 from suburban DC  301-549-1022 (h)  301-982-1015 (w)

Nice story.  There should be more of these stories posted.
You should consider emailing a copy to ARRL for QST.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sid George, CPA     [e-mail]
AB5XU
http://www.hal-pc.org/~sid
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:30 1996
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: New User - Needs Help
Date: 27 Jan 1996 23:05:47 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Charles P. Ohrbom) writes:
>  Hello,
>
>  I hope this isn't a waste of your time, but.....
>
>  I am thinking of purchasing my first 2-meter radio.  In shopping for a unit
>  I don't understand all of the features.  Any help would be appreciated on
>  the following terms and how they relate to a low-to-mid range radio.
>
>  CTCSS Encoding and Decoding
>
>  Front end interference rejection
>
>  SSB (I assume means "single side  band") as apposed to what?
>
>  SWR (I assume means "standing wave ratio") what does this tell me about
>  antennas?
>
>  Any info can be posted to this news group or emailed to me at:
>  [e-mail]
>
>  Thanks in advance.
>
>  cpo

Chuck, your questions seem to indicate that you have yet to pass your FCC
amateur radio license to operate that 2 meter radio.  If you have passed the
exam, you need to go back and review those Tech. exam questions and answers.
All of your questions are answered there.

Don't let this response put you off.  Email me if you need further help.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Sid George, CPA     [e-mail]
AB5XU
http://www.hal-pc.org/~sid
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Kantor)
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In article <4eaume$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brian Kantor) w
rites:
>"Dana H. Myers" <[e-mail]> writes:
>>I've been on the verge of creating alt.radio.amateur.flame for quite
>>a long time.
>
>Already exists, albeit with a slightly different newsgroup title, among
>the alt.ham-radio hierarchy (to which I've just added the binaries group):
>
>       alt.ham-radio.am
>       alt.ham-radio.amtor
>       alt.ham-radio.atv
>       alt.ham-radio.binaries
>       alt.ham-radio.digital-voice
>       alt.ham-radio.dxing
>       alt.ham-radio.eme
>       alt.ham-radio.exotic-modes
>       alt.ham-radio.fax
>       alt.ham-radio.flame
>       alt.ham-radio.fm
>       alt.ham-radio.hf
>       alt.ham-radio.mods
>       alt.ham-radio.morse
>       alt.ham-radio.nocode
>       alt.ham-radio.packet
>       alt.ham-radio.rtty
>       alt.ham-radio.slowscan
>       alt.ham-radio.spread
>       alt.ham-radio.ssb
>       alt.ham-radio.uwave
>       alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf
>
>               - Brian

I created those alt.ham-radio newsgroups a year or more ago, and just
now discovered that the newgroup messages hadn't gotten out or had been
cancelled or something, so I resent the newgroups. I certainly didn't get
any significant flak the first time around.

Good grief, it sure is different this time.

I don't quite believe the degree of heat I'm getting on this; the alt
guidelines I'm familiar with basically say that any news admin can
newgroup any alt group he thinks is appropriate, and other news admins
can create the groups or not as they think fit.  However, people have
been yelling at me about 'not following the guidelines' or 'not
notifying system administrators in advance' and a raft of other
complaints, so maybe things have changed.

One person explained to me at length that I'd wasted enourmous amounts
of disk space on hundreds of thousands of news systems worldwide by
creating empty directories - he must be running C-news or some other
obsolete news software that creates directories before articles arrive.

Another chastised me for "causing him all this trouble" and how we
wanted to declare a "truce" because of all the work I'd caused him.
I'm sorry about that, although I don't know that there was really a lot
of work to be done.  How much trouble can it be to edit a file and rm
-rf one directory if he let the groups get created and then didn't want
them?

Another argues that mailing lists are the appropriate venue.  That's
entirely wrong; the reason Phil and Erik and I invented NNTP was so
that newsgroups and Usenet would be a cheaper and more efficient way of
participating in discussions than mailing lists would be - and I
believe we were and are correct in that intention.  For mass
distribution, better to use Usenet than a mailing list as soon as the
number of interested people becomes more than some small number - a few
dozen, for example.

Sure, I'll admit that the whole thing may have been a bad idea, and that
I probably made a mistake.  Sorry folks, it seemed like the right thing
to do.  I guess I'm out of touch again.

However, since someone took it upon himself to undo the newgroups with
corresponding rmgroups, it's probably moot - the groups no longer exist
outside our sites and no harm has been done.

Sorry for the confusion folks.  I guess some things have changed whilst
I wasn't looking.
        - Brian


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Lee Kokot)
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Subject: Re: What's with this newsgroup--and Prodigy and AOL
Date: 28 Jan 1996 09:30:04 -0700
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[e-mail] writes:
>My own experience with AOL has been pretty dismal.  I've joined it 3 times
>over the years, once when it first started and twice since.  Each time I
>dumped it at the end of the trial period.  The first time was because they
>really didn't have much of anything in terms of files and other info.  The
>other two times were both because I had trouble logging on.  In both cases
>they'd just spammed the world with diskettes and had more new members
>than their system could handle, and people could not get connected to the
>system after their local number answered.  I didn't see the point in paying
>to join a service I couldn't connect to.  The fact that AOL did not have
>(and still doesn't have) a node faster than 2400 baud in my city was also
>a contributing factor.  I've talked to a number of other folks in different
>places who had the same connect-time woes with them that I've had who
>also dumped them for the same reason.

I got rid of them for another reason: the content is pretty shallow.
Lots of stuff on movies, tv, rock music, and Stephen King, not to
mention the little kiddies with a heavy finger on the F key.  The only
thing I like was their file libraries, which were quite large.

Compuserve, on the other hand, is information rich, and has the best
technical forums around anywhere.

--
Regards, Lee Kokot
Encino, CA                               [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gerard Paquette)
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Subject: HELP PLEASE - PZ1DG
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I am trying to locate qsl information for PZ1DG; could anyone help please.
Tnx es 73

- Gerry ([e-mail])


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I am looking for QSL information for PZ1DG but so far have not been able to lo
cate
this ham; would anyone have his address/qsl info.  Tnx es 73

- Gerry ([e-mail])




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I am looking for QSL information for PZ1DG but so far have not been able to lo
cate
this ham; would anyone have his address/qsl info.  Tnx es 73

- Gerry ([e-mail])




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:38 1996
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To: QSL,INFORMATION-PZ1DG

I am looking for QSL information for PZ1DG but so far have not been able to lo
cate
this ham; would anyone have his address/qsl info.  Tnx es 73

- Gerry ([e-mail])




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (ROLAND STINER)
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Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse
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To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Ger Rid of the Morse Requirement!

B>Whoops I forgot to mention that my uncle is now 75 years old and is a
 >GENERAL CLASS   Going for his ADVANCED CLASS
 >Wants his EXTRA BY his 78th Birthday

Good to hear that someone wants to upgrade!  It took me two years to go
from Novice to Extra.  I could have done it faster but I was dating my
girlfriend (who is now my wife) so that took away from my studying time!
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:41 1996
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From: Joe Fitter   BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSLs & contesters [was QSL etiqutte]
Date: 29 Jan 1996 10:54:10 GMT
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I enjoy DXing and especially DX contesting.  Having been on both
sides of the pileup, I can say that I have formed a definite
opinion on QSL'ing.  It's mine only, so flame away:

I QSL 100% for every card received, and QSL 100% to every request, if
made over the air whether a contest or not.  It burns me up when I work a
stateside station, looking for a new state, county or other wallpaper,
and the guy doesnt send me a card---especially if I send him one first.

No, I've never taken "greenstamps" or IRC's.  This is part of the ham
responsibility...kinda like elmering a new ham, helping a neighbor solve
RF interference, etc.  It's just good manners.   I guess some DX'ers do
it -- shame shame shame on them.  Postage isnt so expensive, and many of
my cards go via the bureau too.

Any ham who is too cheap to mail out a postcard for stateside contacts is
not worth havinga QSO in the first place (sure...some cant afford it.
For those who can-- is the bureau THAT expensive....5 bucks a pound?
c'mon guys).  Isn't half the fun getting that little 5 by 7 envelope?
If a guy asks...why not send him a card, especially an HF qso.

To the guy who wont QSL to "another W6 on 20"  I say phooey on you.  You
have probably not QSL'd in a while...if you had, you'd know that it
doesnt cost 32 cents for a QSL post-card;  As a new operator, I loved
getting cards...didnt care where they were from;  Just liked the
different card designs and short message on the back.  Plus, it turned a
corner of the bedroom into a "real shack".  Remember, just because you've
received you umpteenth W6 QSL card doesnt mean the guy on the other end
has gotten his umpteenth W? card.  Also, some guys dont have monster
antennas.  In fact, some of the newcomers these days are lucky to work
any DX at all on 15 or 10.  With the low sunspots, a card from ANYWHERE
can be an inspiration to keep trying.   I still cherish that first QSL
card ever received.  It just happened to be from my first QSO ever.
Perhaps the face of ham radio is changing.


Ok.  off the soap box.  QSL via the bureau.  dit dit  Joe   BV/N0IAT up 2




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:42 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Kenneth Kalan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: AEA DSP 232 CONTROLLER
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:39:48 -0600
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In article <4efuso$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(George Deamicis) wrote:

>I bought this from HRO back in early DEC 95. I thought I would have this
>by now. Has anyone heard what is happening to the production of these?
>
>
>             73 GEORGE
>
>              N1JGE

At a local ham fest yesterday I asked about this unit.  The guy (not from
AES but a ham vendor) said they were supposed to be there Dec, then Jan
1st, they were supposed to be there for this show and last they are
supposed to be at a Miami show.  He says they have a firmware problem the
company is trying to solve and doesn't expect the unit until March.

This is what I heard at the ham fest so take it for what it's worth.

Ken

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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:43 1996
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From: asmartuser <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

I got a Yaesu FT 767 GX, with 144 Mhz unit. It's a good rig, expecially
for
the coverage of all bands.
The 2m unit works till 145.999.
My question is: how to extend till 147.999 ?
The same problem is on the other unit (430 Mhz)!

It's also possible to extend TX capabilities ?

Thanx for help in advance.

E-mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:44 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The Whole story!
Date: 29 Jan 1996 15:32:08 GMT
Organization: MicroBurst
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References: <[e-mail]>

>....we may find the figures skewed the other way from
what your numbers indicate.<

Clearly my numbers are simplistic, since I can't capture the
number of licensees who "passed through" any given class, nor
even the precise "starting point" of any given licensee. But
even in their crude state, the numbers totally disprove the
contention of Newsline that the 10% growth in Tech+ is the
only "upgrade" from codeless Tech.

By the way, the effect of the switch from 5-year to 10-year
license terms ended in 1994 so attrition by death/non-renewal
is now part of the figures. A comparison of 1994 to 1995
figures shows high growth in every class from Novice to Extra,
and in fact the "top-3" grew faster than Tech/Tech+ in 1995.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
--Hark!
  I Have Hurled My Words To The Far Corners Of
  The Earth!
  What King Of Old Could Do Thus?


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:45 1996
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Hi,

I got a Yaesu FT 767 GX, with 144 Mhz unit. It's a good rig, expecially
for the coverage of all bands.
I was looking for the other units:
        430 Mhz unit
        50 Mhz unit
        FTE-2 tone unit
        FTS-8 CTSS unit
I would like to know how to find them, since Yaesu Europe doesen't have
this spare parts !

Thanx for help in advance.

E-mail: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:47 1996
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Help finding part 95
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 29 Jan 96 15:58:57 CST
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Help finding part 95
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Help findind part 95
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Part 95, please help locate
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Request for part 95
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Date: 29 Jan 96 14:17:10 CST
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Greetings to all

I would appreciate it if any body could point me to a web site that contains
the following: Title 47 chapter 1 subchapter D part 95.
The above is the Code of Federal Regulations relating to general moblie radios
.
It also contains the rules for CB radios.  I have searchd serval web sites
including Cornell Law School's website.  I would like to download part 95 of
the regulations in its entireity.

A footnote to this request.  It sure is easy to find part 97 which is the rule
s
for amatuer radios.  Their must be a lot of ham operators on the internet.

Please help if you can.  Thanks in advance.

David Stua
Stephen F. Austin University
Nacogdoches, Texas
CB handler is "Dogstar"



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Jim Weir ([e-mail]) wrote:
: David Drumheller <drumhell> wrote:

: [snip in consideration of bandwidth]

: I've certainly got some things I believe about CW and the uses
: thereof.  However, for those of us who are paying to read this stuff
: by the byte

: PLEASE LEARN HOW TO SNIP THE MESSAGE YOU ARE REPLYING TO.  SENDING
: FOUR LAYERS OF PREVIOUS MESSAGES ALONG WITH YOUR TWO LINE COMMENT IS
: EQUIVALENT TO TUNING UP ON THE MIDDLE OF A 40 METER NET.

: After all, aren't we criticizing improper operating practice in this
: thread?  {;-]

   On the subject of criticism...... This _was_ crossposted to
rec.radio.cb and rec.radio.scanner.  This thread and entire subject
hasnothing to do with CB or Scanners.....  Adjust the Newsgroups: and
followup To: lines in the future.


--
 John L. Wilkerson Jr...    [e-mail]

      "Political Correctness is for mindless sheep.. Speak up how
_you_ want, not how others say you should"


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:49 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Blackwell)
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Subject: FCC forms online - yuck!
Date: 29 Jan 1996 16:47:56 GMT
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It's nice that the FCC puts some forms online
(ftp://ftp.fcc.gov/pub/Forms), but why are they using PCX bitmaps? If
you try to actually print out the form you wind up with an ugly jaggy
mess that's almost impossible to read. They ought to be using
PostScript, or Acrobat format like the IRS. Free Acrobat readers are
available for most platforms, and the printed result is as good as the
original form. So close, and yet so far. Sigh...

                Mike Blackwell   ke3ig   [e-mail]



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David Drumheller <drumhell> wrote:

[snip in consideration of bandwidth]

I've certainly got some things I believe about CW and the uses
thereof.  However, for those of us who are paying to read this stuff
by the byte

PLEASE LEARN HOW TO SNIP THE MESSAGE YOU ARE REPLYING TO.  SENDING
FOUR LAYERS OF PREVIOUS MESSAGES ALONG WITH YOUR TWO LINE COMMENT IS
EQUIVALENT TO TUNING UP ON THE MIDDLE OF A 40 METER NET.

After all, aren't we criticizing improper operating practice in this
thread?  {;-]

Jim


Jim Weir VP Engineering  | You bet your sweet patootie I speak
RST Engineering          | for the company.  I OWN the cotton-
Grass Valley CA 95945    | pickin' company.
voice/fax [phone]   | AR Adv. WB6BHI               Cessna 182A N73CQ
[e-mail]         | Comm'l Pilot & CFI Airplane/Glider  A&P Mechanic



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: The Whole story!
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In article <4eip9o$4qc$[e-mail]> Hans Brakob K0HB <71
[e-mail]> writes:
>>....we may find the figures skewed the other way from
>what your numbers indicate.<
>
>Clearly my numbers are simplistic, since I can't capture the
>number of licensees who "passed through" any given class, nor
>even the precise "starting point" of any given licensee. But
>even in their crude state, the numbers totally disprove the
>contention of Newsline that the 10% growth in Tech+ is the
>only "upgrade" from codeless Tech.

I don't think that's what they were saying. The headline said
most Techs are remaining Techs, that is true. Where the residue
is going is subject to debate. They may be passing through
Tech+ or jumping directly to higher classes.

>By the way, the effect of the switch from 5-year to 10-year
>license terms ended in 1994 so attrition by death/non-renewal
>is now part of the figures.

Nope, because of the 2 year grace period, 1994 expires are
just *now* starting to be purged. We had this discussion
earlier about a grandfather who died shortly after being
licensed in May of 1984 still on the FCC database as an
active amateur. He won't be purged from the list until
May of 1996.

>A comparison of 1994 to 1995
>figures shows high growth in every class from Novice to Extra,
>and in fact the "top-3" grew faster than Tech/Tech+ in 1995.

Yeah, but that's still misleading. Since the top three are all
much smaller classes than the two Techs, percentage growth looks
lots better than the raw number growth. Try expressing the growth
of each class as a percentage of the *total* amateur population.
That gives a more meaningful picture of where amateurs are and
where they are going.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | [e-mail]
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:54 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Anderson)
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GP>I would suggest sending the radio to one of our service centers,
GP>along with a letter explaining the difficulties you are
GP>experiencing with the radio.  You may send your radio to one of our
GP>service centers at the following addresses:

GP>ICOM America, Inc.            ICOM America, Inc.
GP>2380 116th Ave. N.E.          18102 Sky Park South No. 52-B
GP>Bellevue, WA 98004            Irvine, CA 92714
GP>Attn: Service Department      Attn: Service Department

GP>Tel:[phone]            Tel:[phone]

GP>At this time, I am unable to give you a quote on what the charges
GP>will be to repair your radio.  We can give you a quote once we
GP>receive the radio and a technician can evaluate the extent of the
GP>repairs. For a guideline, our repair charges are calculated at the
GP>rate of $65.00 per hour with a minimum of (1) one hour of labor,
GP>plus parts and return shipping.

GP>We do charge a fee of $25.00 for refused estimates or for out of warran
GP>radios that have no problem found when presented for repair.

GP>Shipping charges will depend on the method of shipment.  We accept
GP>Master Card, Visa, M.O. and UPS C.O.D. for payment of parts orders.
GP>Please contact me if I can be of further assistance.

GP>Best regards,
GP>Gary KF7XV
GP>Senior Technical Customer Service Representative

Gosh, Gary, Icom is actually listening to us here. That's good to know.
I don't anticipate any problems with my IC-000H, but it's good to know
where to send it if I do have problems. VY 73,        Mike       WA8JDW


---
 * WR 1.31 # 44 * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Anderson)
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RS>To: [e-mail]
RS>Subject: Callbook CD-ROM - what data format?

J>Can someone give me a clue as to the database used for the new Callbo
 >CD-ROM?  There is a main data file in binary, with several .IDX index

RS>I do not know but I can say this:  the "Flying Horse" Callbook on CD RO
RS>is buggy.  Tell me if you have this experience:  when you switch the
RS>mode of search, say from name to callsign, do you get an "out of
RS>resources" error message?  I do all the time.  The only way I found to
RS>get around this is to close the program and the bring it back up again.
RS>I want to make sure that the program is at fault and not my computer.
RS>---

Just out of curiousity, how much RAM do you have in your PC, are you
using Windows 3.1, and how have you configured the virtual memory in
386 enhanced if you are using Win 3.1? Also, how much DOS memory do
you have available while in Windows and what other apps are you
running when you try to run the Callbook program? Do I sound like I
ever do PC support? It could be the memory on your system and it
could be the Callbook program.        VY 73, de WA8JDW   -   Mike

---
 * WR 1.31 # 44 * Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Anderson)
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JP>I have had a 2700 for a while now.  I think it is a piece of junk for t
JP>price paid.  I agree with the above comments.  I sent it in to ICOM whe
JP>first hooked it up and they said everything checked out OK.  BUT it is
JP>extremely sensitive to intermod.  I have compared to my IC 3230H and se
JP>W2A HTs hooked into the same mobile antenna system.  The 2700 just does
JP>cut the mustard.

JP>There is a mod to increase VHF receive range.  They did it for me when
JP>it in.  It has something to do with jumpers.  Maybe someone else out th
JP>knows about it.

JP>Right now I would rather have another 3230 than the 2700.  Unfortunatel
JP>spent the money to get it new, and I would get hosed in a trade.

JP>John
JP>AB5OX

John, interesting. Do you have any feel for the IC-2000H? I didn't do a
lot of comparing before I bought it, but it seems to do a pretty good
job with intermod. I'm still struggling with a high SWR on my Larsen
dual band on glass KG2-70 antenna so I've not been able to really
test the 2000H much. As you may know the 2000H has wideband receive
and if you believe the ads is very good at rejecting intermod. I
thought they made the same claim for the 2700.   VY 73,    Mike   WA8JDW


---
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:58 1996
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From: [e-mail] (KY1T Luck)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Gary Coffman) writes:

>It's true that amateurs do a
>bit of public service communications, and on occasion a smidgen
>of emergency communications, but for the most part that's a thing
>of the past. k

For once, I actually THOUGHT about someone's comments for quite a while
before responding.  It's been my impression for some years now that Gary's
postings are well thought-out, intelligent, and almost always make valid
points.  Indeed, there are many valid points in his most recent posting,
referenced in part above. I'm especially in agreement with his inference
about the automated stations on HF being a prime example of excellence,
insofar as their unfailing ability to exhibit patience and accuracy.

But I don't believe Gary has a good overall picture of the AMOUNT of
public service that radio amateurs continue to crank out on a daily basis.
 And that belief of mine is based on two things:

1.  The fairly large number of people I continue to come in contact with
(bumped into one just yesterday) whose total and complete amateur radio
lives (the term "get a life" may well apply here!) revolve around the
quantity and quality of service to the public that they can perform by way
of their Amateur Radio Service  transmissions.

2.  My ongoing understanding that there continues to be remarkably large
numbers of people who are in fact well served by the 24 hour a day
automated PACSATs and HF digital BBSs/MBOs that spew forth accurate and
reasonably prompt amounts of third party traffic.  These are very often
people on board U.S. Naval vessels around the world -- who are not allowed
access to naval communications circuits for the type of stuff WE normally
handle -- people on commercial vessels and people on training vessels.

There are most certainly  many many other situations that involve the
handling of messages for the public as a SERVICE to that public, and which
thus qualifies for the topic at hand.  I know of SYSOPS who bellyache
constantly that their systems are "clogged up" by such "trash", which
usually makes me wonder what they think would be of greater value...

In any event, I don't believe that relegating public service
communications to the category of "a thing of the past" is fair or
accurate.  Oh, it's more fair and more accurate than even a few years ago,
and most CERTAINLY more fair and more accurate than 10 to 20 years ago.
And those of you that know me know precisely who I blame for THAT
travesty.

73

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Byron (Luck) Hurder, KY1T   [e-mail]  AX.25 - [e-mail]
53 Broadview St. Newington Ct 06111         [phone]
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Web Page -- http://home.aol.com/KY1TLUCK
Finally employed again Software Engineer/Database Administrator
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:52:59 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Flanders)
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Subject: Antenna Modeling Software for Windows
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:16:56 Eastern
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 There is a neat "try-before-buy" package of antenna modeling software
  for windows available at

 http://www.funet.fi/pub/ham/antenna/NEC/

 the file is NEC-WIN.ZIP

 It is about 1.3 megs, so it takes awhile to download.

I just got it recently, and have only started evaluating it. If someone
else has already looked it over, I would appreciate hearing from you.
I had been looking for a way to visualize the output of the generic
mininec3. At first glance, this package looks like a lot more than I was
hoping for.

Jerry Flanders    W4UKU    South Carolina    [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail](Bill Patton )
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Subject: Re: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
Date: 29 Jan 1996 21:23:59 GMT
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Someone pass the bottle!!!



In <4ej6fh$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (WB7ASR)
writes:
>
>Technically speaking, morse code communications is outdated at
>todays communicatios standards. However in my opion, most of the
>people complaining about having a morse code requirement for amateur
>radio are the ones who are just too lazy to learn the code. They are
>just looking for something for nothing and don't what to put any
effort
>into getting a HF amateur radio license. I call these people
"Cry-Babys!"
>
>Having morse code requirements helps establish a higher standard of
>amateur radio operators within the amateur radio community. If you
>"earn" your license, you will have more "respect" for it!
>
>I hope the FCC never does away with code requirements.
>
>
>



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In article <4eidj5$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew Du
rigan) writes:

>Legal proceedings?  Don't be ridiculous!  Oh sure, I can see it now...a
>guy gets caught pinning someone's coax.  When the judge asks him why he
>did it, he says "Uh, well ah, I don't like what this guy does on the
>radio, and some guy on the Internet suggested that I do this in order to
>solve the problem.  So it's his fault."  Yeah, right.
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM

No more "ridiculous" than being threatened to be sued over posts here on the
internet...which dru has done to me many times.

Still havnt received my subpoena yet...must still be in the mail.    :)

Take care all, & 73.



Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam



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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K. Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:29:51 GMT
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In article <4ein1i$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Drew D
urigan) writes:

>I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you over something you
>obviously know nothing about.  If you are actually foolish enough to
>believe that you have a case here, bring it on!  Just make sure you have
>lots of money to pay the attorney fees on both sides of the table when
>your suit gets tossed out as "frivilous" and you are then countersued for
>the above-mentioned fees and expenses.

Same goes to dru, regarding his "threat of suit" to me.

>For once, you are correct about something.  We do seem to have a jammer
>problem, and it's on our machine.  The problem was particularily bad this
>past weekend.  In fact, it's quite a remarkable coincidence that you
>should mention this...especially since the "jammer" maliciously
>interfered with several of my transmissions and even spoke up to mention
>my name and call me a "moron" on one occasion.

Imagine that! I would guess if dru conducts himself on the air, even remotely
like he conducts himself here, he would understand why.


Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT
Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University
E-Mail: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Books)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
Date: 29 Jan 1996 21:57:53 GMT
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WB7ASR ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Technically speaking, morse code communications is outdated at
> todays communicatios standards. However in my opion, most of the
> people complaining about having a morse code requirement for amateur
> radio are the ones who are just too lazy to learn the code. They are
> just looking for something for nothing and don't what to put any effort
> into getting a HF amateur radio license. I call these people "Cry-Babys!"

> Having morse code requirements helps establish a higher standard of
> amateur radio operators within the amateur radio community. If you
> "earn" your license, you will have more "respect" for it!

> I hope the FCC never does away with code requirements.

I think you are going to be SOL as far as this hope goes.  Morse is
outdated and will eventually go away.

Now, as someone setting up to take the no-code technician test, what
kind of MORON came up with the current test setup?  "Here's our
300 question test pool, you can study it all you want."  No wonder you
want a code test to limit the pool.  The test isn't about to do it.
I could see "There will be 3 find the length questions, and 4 general
electronics, and 3 terminology, and one resistor code questions", but
this bit about here are all the questions we could possibly use is stupid.
It doesn't prove anyone knows a thing.

If you want to limit the pool why not limit it to those actually willing
to study and learn something useful?

Roger




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:05 1996
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From: Vincent Biancomano <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:47:08 GMT
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In response to John Wilkerson:
Phil Karn's calculations appear to be correct. But unfortunately,
in the context of defending the no-code issue, those calculations
solve a different problem than the one under discussion!

While it can be demonstrated there are modes more "efficient"
than cw, the task is to show that eliminating the Morse Code,
and easing requirements in general for the theory exams, will
benefit the Amateur Service. Those anxious to eliminate Morse
Code would do well to first see how it will impact other activities
in the Service. Those interested in easing theory requirements
into the hobby would do well to ponder whether they seek a
personal radio service, or Amateur Radio.

Regards,
Vince, WB2EZG



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:07 1996
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From: "Edwin  A. Petersen" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Licensing/Repeaters in Norway
Date: 29 Jan 1996 23:07:55 GMT
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Hi Theo.
You have the same rights to practice Amatuer/Radio in Norway as you do
in Germany, Full CEPT Agrement.
73 de Edwin, la1wca

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From: [e-mail] (Theodor Johannes Schmitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Licensing/Repeaters in Norway
Date: 29 Jan 96 10:41:34 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I am planning tospend my next holdays in southern/mid
norway and I want to take my 144/430 HT with me.

Is there a reciprocal licensing agreement (CEPT) between Norway
and Germany ?
If not, where can I ge a guest licence from ?

Can someone send me a list of 144/440 (FM phone) repeaters ?



73,
Theo (DK9WH)

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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:09 1996
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Subject: IPS Daily Report - 29 January 96
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Date: 29 Jan 1996 23:16:21 -0000
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SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
ISSUED AT 29/2330Z JANUARY 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
SUMMARY FOR 29 JANUARY AND FORECAST FOR 30 JANUARY - 01 FEBRUARY
-----------------------------------------------------------
1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: Very low

Flares: None

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number :  74/11

GOES satellite data for 28 Jan
       Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV:   2.1E+05
       Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV:  1.8E+04
       Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 2.7E+06 (normal)
       X-ray background: A1.0
Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             30 Jan             31 Jan             01 Feb
Activity     Very low           Very low           Very low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 30 Jan:  76/14

-----------------------------------------------------------
2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Unsettled to active

Estimated Indices : A   K           Observed A Index 28 Jan
    Learmonth       18  3334 3442
    Fredericksburg  10                           9
    Planetary       15                           6

Observed Kp for 28 Jan: 2120 0223

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Date      Ap    Conditions
30 Jan     8    Quiet to unsettled
31 Jan     6    Quiet
01 Feb     6    Quiet

-----------------------------------------------------------
3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
29 Jan      Normal         Normal         Normal
PCA Event : None

3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
                    Latitude Band
Date        Low            Middle         High
30 Jan      Normal         Normal         Fair-normal
31 Jan      Normal         Normal         Normal
01 Feb      Normal         Normal         Normal

-----------------------------------------------------------
4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
Date   T index
29 Jan    34

Observed Australian Regional MUFs:
Townsville: Near predicted monthly values with 20-50%
enhancements 07-12 UT and 20% depressions 13-15 UT.
Sporadic E obscured the F region 00-02 UT and strong
sporadic E was observed 04-07 and 22 UT.
Sydney: Near predicted monthly values with 20-40%
enhancements 02-10 UT. Sporadic E obscured the F
region at 13, 16-17 and 21-23 UT. Strong sporadic E was
also observed 00-02, 04, 14-15 and 18-20 UT.
Hobart: Near predicted monthly values with 30% depressions
12-13 UT. Sporadic E obscured the F region at 14, 16-19 and
21 UT. Strong sporadic E was observed 00-01, 04 and 20 UT.
Darwin: No data.

Predicted Monthly T index for January: 10

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
Date   T index  MUFs
30 Jan   -10    Near predicted monthly values to 20% depressed
                at times. Sporadic E likely at all latitudes
                and spread F likely at higher latitiudes at night.
31 Jan     5    Near predicted monthly values with sporadic E
                likely at all latitudes.
01 Feb    10    Near predicted monthly values with sporadic E
                likely at all latitudes.
COMMENT: IPS HF Communications Warning 4 was issued on 29 January
and is current for interval 30 January to 2 February.
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:10 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: source code for sstv
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:42:56 -0500
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looking for any source code for sstv

thanks
N3VTV
John Stalnaker


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:11 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Manfred Lange)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Experiences with K0HEO's-SSTV WINPIX PRO?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:00:24 GMT
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Hi,

does anybody know the new SSTV-program WINPIX PRO by Don, K0HEO?
Any experiences good or bad?

This program is supposed to run under Windows 3.1 or 95 together with any
Windows-compatible soundcard. No further Hardware is necessary.

Any reports about it?

73, Manfred, DK3UD


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Name:      Manfred Lange
Location:  Hamburg / Germany
E-Mail:    [e-mail]
Homepage:  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/m_lange/
Ham Call:  DK3UD
Ham BBS:   DK3UD@DB0HB.#HH.DEU.EU
------------------------------------------------------------



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:12 1996
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Subject: R7100 Modification
Date: 30 Jan 1996 00:56:08 GMT
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Ever since ICOM decided to delete the 800 - 900 MHZ coverage from its IC-R7100

receiver,
older R7100's demand premium prices on the used market. ICOM insisted that the

R7100 was
now made in two versions, one for the general public and another (with 800-900

coverage) for
government and law enforcement agencies. The extended coverage version also se
lls
for $200-$300 more! Per discussions with ICOM there were very clear that this
was
done to comply with
legal requirements that prohibit new scanners from be capable of receiving
cellular telephone
transmissions. My opposition has always been why we should be penalized if we
want
to listen to
local law enforcement agencies within the 800 MHz band. Personally, I have no
interest in
listening to cell phones when a receiver as competent as the R7100 opens up al
most
2 ghz of
spectrum.

I recently noticed that Grove now offers the R7100 with "restored" coverage so
 I
set out to find
out how it was done. Performing the following procedure will allow you to list
en
to local law
enforcement with the 800-900 mHz portion of the spectrum. Remove the screws th
at
hold the top
cover and disconnect the speaker. Next, remove the two flat head screws that h
old
the metal
shield covering the rear of the front panel.. On the rear apron, remove the tw
o
screws that hold
the upper chassis to the lower chassis. Finally, remove the antenna cable that
 is
connected to the
circuit board assembly in the rear right corner of the R7100. Referring to the

owners manual,
CAREFULLY separate the upper half of the receiver, inverting it, setting it be
side
the radio as
illustrated in the owners manual. Be careful not to pull on the cables that
connect the upper
portion to the lower half of the radio. In the front of the owners manual ther
e is
a small paragraph
that explains the various jumper options for the R7100's CI-V interface option
s.
It's on this board
that the modification is done. The board is located behind the "M-SET" switch.
 The
jumpers are
actually circular pads, split vertically. A drop of solder constitutes a jumpe
r -
no solder = no
jumper.

Locate jumper "A6" as illustrated in the owners manual. Above "A6" you'll see
a
small ball of
solder. Using solder wick, CAREFULLY remove the solder, exposing the split
circular pad
beneath. The space between the pads is very small so be sure to remove all the

solder. Reassemble
the radio and you're done!

Blackshadow



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:14 1996
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From: Hans Brakob K0HB <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: The Whole story!
Date: 30 Jan 1996 03:04:31 GMT
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   First, just to set the record straight, I agree that
the technician license is by far the fastest growing
class, and I am absolutely DELIGHTED at it's popularity.
   My original post was simply to point out a blatant error
(or worse) in Bill Pasternak's editorial on Newsline. Here
is a direct quote:

   "In other words, in the five years since no-code
licensing was introduced, only 10,000 or so no-coders
have bothered to upgrade.  The rest, about 150,000
no-code Techs appear to be very content to live out
their ham radio lives on a local repeater using what
the Amateur Radio supply industry has come to call a
2 meter ham station on a belt clip."

   He based this solely on the growth of the Tech+ by
10,000 licensees. He ignores the growth of the "top-3"
by over 46,000 licenses which obviously includes folks
from the Tech ranks.
   By the way, for proof that FCC figures in 1994 and later
DO account for expirations, look at the numbers on page
40 of the May 95 QST.

73, de Hans, K0HB

--
--Hark!
  I Have Hurled My Words To The Far Corners Of
  The Earth!
  What King Of Old Could Do Thus?


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:15 1996
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From: "Robert J. Hall" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: KPC-2 TNC and 145.01 Base
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:31:20 -0500
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Hello ..  I have decided to sell my KPC-2 Packet radio TNC and
Regency BTH-201B 25 Watt VHF Tranceiver crystalled to 145.01 MHZ.

I am asking $70 for the KPC-2 ALONE.
The KPC-2 With the REGENCY BTH-201B radio I am asking  $135
I will also be asking $5 for Shipping.

The Regency base station is all ready to go and is Currently wired and
working well with the KPC-2.  The base station has it's own built in
Power supply.  Size is approx. ( 15" x 9" x 3.5" ) Regency BTH-201B 25 Watt
VHF Tranceiver crystalled to 145.01 MHZ.  Receiver sensitivity and
selectivity has been recently checked on a 2400 Motorola Service Monitor
and checked up to factory specs.  Output power bench checked at 30 watts.

I am not interested in selling the radio seperate from the TNC, but would
be interested in selling the TNC alone.  If I don't sell them I'll
continue to use them, and If I don't sell the radio with it, I'll crystal
it for voice and use it there.


The KPC-2 has version 2.85 firmware and has PBBS, NODE, and DIGI
functions.  It's run well for the last 4 years without ever having a
problem.  It originally cost $170.  I orginally purchased the Regency
about 2 years ago from a friend for $60 and recrystaled and tuned it for
another $30 from Jan Crystals.  It works well and also has never given me
any problems.

I don't normally have time to monitor the news groups so any response to
this should be via e-mail or phone listed below.
                                                 Rob Hall  AA8LA

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From: [e-mail] (R. Wiley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What does CQ mean?
Date: 30 Jan 96 04:05:27 GMT
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.

calling any station


NE0R


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From: [e-mail] (R. Wiley)
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Subject: Re: Antenna and coax grounding?
Date: 30 Jan 96 04:08:20 GMT
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>[e-mail] wrote:

>>ground. I have a deep-cycle battery for backup and can hook the positive
>>lead from any of the radios to the battery, and when I connect the coax
>>to the radio, it will complete the circuit, and the radio will come on.
>>The battery is isolated from everything else, including home A/C. Hooking
>>to one of 3 power supplies will yield the same results. This is with the
>>negative radio lead just dangling in the breeze! The tower is grounded
>>properly with 3 10' ground rods around the perimeter. The shack is


You are probably getting current flow from the + battery terminal to
ground.  The same principal as an electric fence.



NE0R


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From: Gary Zabriskie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Yaesu FT290 R (original) Need Service Manual
Date: 30 Jan 1996 04:18:27 GMT
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I am in need of the Yaesu service manual for the FT290R multimode two-meter
transciever.  This is the earlier version, not the current Mark II version.
 I will; be happy to pay for the copying and postage if someone has this.
I accidently hooked up reverse polarity on the power and oops!!!  Please
e-mail me if you have this manual.



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:18 1996
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From: Gary Zabriskie <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Yaesu FT290 R (original) Need Service Manual
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I am in need of the Yaesu service manual for the FT290R multimode two-meter
transciever.  This is the earlier version, not the current Mark II version.
 I will; be happy to pay for the copying and postage if someone has this.
I accidently hooked up reverse polarity on the power and oops!!!  Please
e-mail me if you have this manual.



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:19 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Bushong)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cape Cod Teacher Fired
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Date: 30 Jan 1996 04:22:04 GMT
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In article <4e3kdk$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>>>In article <4dtbbo$[e-mail]> Burt Fisher <[e-mail]>
writes:
>>>
>>>A Cape Cod Teacher was fired after producing some videos.
>>>(a long time teacher in the Dennis-Yarmouth school system).
>>>Many students demonstrated for him.
>>>No hams did.
>
>Why should they demonstrate for a porn producer?
>Why should they demonstrate for YOU?

Huh. It's the first big thing that came from his part of town
since Kennedy killed Kopechne.

Oh, here's another "cape" bombshell, how about burt's "wife" (second so far),
who used to be someone's HUSBAND?  No wonder they get along so well, he
posting when he's plastered during the night and "she" just being there
answering the 1-900 phone for the revenue... 17 years so far, right burt?

Hey burt, dispute any of this???!!!

Next time you say "take your best shot", you should think about
what you have to lose.




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: All spammers please read was (Re: WI Hams Please read!
Date: 30 Jan 1996 04:39:09 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Gary Coffman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Now *that's* what a netnews header looks like. Every article
>generates one. See that line labeled "Distribution:" up there?
>That's your distribution line. If you leave it blank, the default
>is "world", but if you put a local or regional code in there,
>the distribution will be limited to that area.

You hope. That is, if one of your upstream or downstream sites isn't dain
bramaged to the point of ignoring Distribution: lines. (Many were. I can't
remember how many postings we'd get to an old, internal-to-Columbia newgroup
cu.bboard from Colorado University with Distribution: set to denver or co or
something else.)

>Gary

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:21 1996
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From: [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)  Landing, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: drew advocates tresspassing and vandalism
Date: 30 Jan 1996 04:46:25 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:

>
>  For once, you are correct about something.  We do seem to have a jammer
>  problem, and it's on our machine.  The problem was particularily bad this
>  past weekend.  In fact, it's quite a remarkable coincidence that you
>  should mention this...especially since the "jammer" maliciously
>  interfered with several of my transmissions and even spoke up to mention
>  my name and call me a "moron" on one occasion.  Gee, Steve, you wouldn't
>  have anything to do with this, now would you?  You have to admit, it's
>  quite an amazing coincidence.
>
>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>
your absolutely correct drew.  accroding to your theories on 2 meters, i can s
tand in my basement with a 2 meter ht
(in NNJ) listen for you and key up at the same time as you.

doe the words  fool..doofus..moron mean anything to you???  NO??? look them up
 under KF4DDM


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:23 1996
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From: Jamey Brookover <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DSP Noise Filter - Which is Best????
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I am using the JPS NIR-10.  I feel it is a nice addition to SSB operating,
especially the automatic notch filtering.  As of yet, I have not upgraded to t
he
newest software, so it may perform better than it does now.  My rig (YAESU
FT1000D) already has excellent CW filtering, and I seldom use the DSP in CW mo
de.
Although it is beneficial for SSB operations, I am not convinced that it is wo
rth
the price.  I feel the same goes for all the DSP units, not just the NIR-10.
I hope
this info is helpful to you.  73 -- Jamey (Jay) Brookover, WB8BMV -- Cary NC



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:24 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel M. Conti)
Subject: FS : OPTOelectronics Scout Model 40, ver 3.1 MINT, used twice
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OPTO electronics Scout Model 40, ver 3.1, MINT, purchased 9/6/95, used
twice, includes cable to connect AR8000 for reaction tune, in box with
manual, AC charger, power.  $300.00 shipped to 48.  COD $5.00 extra
Reply via E-Mail



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (gloria medcalf)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Path Quality of Packet Nodes (new web-site article)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:01:58 -0600
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How good is an rf path? What is the chance that packet Node A can
connect to Node B?

NET/ROM and compatible (G8BPQ, TheNet, X1-J, K-Net, msys . . .)
network nodes calculate a number to describe path quality. This
article tells how the numbers are calculated and how some issues
affect their meaningfulness.

Article URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/pathqual.html

From the home page at http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/ you can link to
other articles, including one with sound files of the TOR modes. The
articles may be reprinted in amateur radio club newsletters provided
that credit is given to the author.

The site also contains diagrams for wiring radios to tncs.

73 gloria ka5ztx   [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:26 1996
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From: Joe Fitter   BV/N0IAT <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ITU Zone amateur radio band plan
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:54:12 GMT
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Could someone provide the band plan for the HF ham bands?  Especially
interested in bands like 160, 80, 40, and 30 meters.   I dont have
any reference here to check the ITU plan differences between zone
1,2, and 3.

Thanks  Joe



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Aasheim)
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Subject: ham adress
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Hello Can anyone help me with two adresses for
8P9HL. Date 03/01/95
A71FB. DATE 01/06/94
I hope someone have the adresses for this two callsign
Many Greetings from TOM. LB2UE
My EMAIL is [e-mail]
73



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:28 1996
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Subject: Help to operate in Japan.. seeking advise
Message-ID: <1996Jan30.111438.1145@hobbit>
From: [e-mail] (Dinakar)
Date: 30 Jan 96 11:14:38 EDT
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Hello to everyone:

I just got a word that I will be travelling to Japan. I will be
staying in Japan for seven months. I would like to know how ot
get the operating privileges at Japan.  I have advance class
license here.  I would appreciate if someone give me some
suggestions or point me in right direction.

Thank you very much.

73
Dinakar KG8OE
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:29 1996
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From: Hank Blackstock <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Amsat Satelllite Contest, Should we have one?
Date: 30 Jan 1996 11:38:36 GMT
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My vote would be NO! I can not stand contests except for Field
Day, which serves a greater purpose than just feeding egos.

73 Hank



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From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
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Subject: re: No Code = No Brain = C.B.
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> George Warner said:
> Face it, nobody really builds their own radios any more.  Look in

Dead wrong. There's as much building going on now as ever. For instance,
my 30m/40m HF receiver/transmitter are about to go on the air on 40m. 30m
will be added shortly. 100% homebrew. The RX works great, I'm still working
the bugs out of the TX. It doesn't have dual VFO or 500 memories, but who
REALLY needs those anyway?

> Ironically, these ham radio operators have been so damn pig-headed
> that the numbers of operators are in the decline and many of these
> bands are starting to look like prime auction material for the F.C.C.

Dead wrong again. The numbers have been going UP for years. Where you been?

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:31 1996
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Subject: Re: Amsat Satelllite Contest, Should we have one?
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In article <4ek07i$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) w
rites:
>From: [e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL)
>Subject: Amsat Satelllite Contest, Should we have one?
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 96 02:36:08 GMT


>Amsat is debating having a yearly contest on the satellites, something beside
s
>Field Day.

>Should there be one?

>73 de KB7ADL

I would say YES.  At least one every quarter.  For us beginners (no code TECHS
)
it would be a great way to work some DX and other countries.  The bands would
be full with contesters looking to make a CQ.

KE4IKT




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (BILL EWALD)
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Subject: Re: Cape Cod Teacher Fired
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||   Date: 01/25/96    Time: 01:08p     Number: 1953
||     To: ALL                           Refer: 0
||   From: RICK TRESSLER              Board ID: PSYCHO          Reply:
||Subject: Cape Cod Teacher Fire          4933: rec.radio.am   Status: Public
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* In a message to All on 01/25/96, RICK TRESSLER said the following:

>>A Cape Cod Teacher was fired after producing some videos.
>>(a long time teacher in the Dennis-Yarmouth school system).
>The school teacher had produced and starred a mix of soft and hardcore porn
>videos done in CA. and had allegedly solicited a student to appear in a video
.
>The story was in the Thursday issue of the Boston Globe, page 25.  There was
>also an a follow up issue in the Saturday Globe (page 20) that a second
>student had come forward and alleged that the teacher had solicited her
>appearance in a video.  The paper pointed out that both students were over 18

>at the time of the alleged solicitations.
>>Many students demonstrated for him.
>>No hams did.
>Not very surprising to me.  Unless any ham happenening to live in the
>Dennis-Yarmouth area and has a strong opinion on the matter one way or the
>other why would he or she?  The school superintendant did was he thought was
>right and teacher (claiming innocence of solicitation) asked the students to
>go back to school.  Apparently both the superintendant and the teacher are
>following, or are expected to follow, the accepted protocols for handling thi
s
>sort of problem.

RT>What does this story have to with ham radio?  Just another day of spamming
on t
RT>he net, I suppose.

        Was it Burt Fisher?




---
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Psychotronic BBS * Durham, NC * 919-286-7738 (v.34) / 286-4542 (v.32bis)
c/o Books Do Furnish A Room, 1809 W Markham Av, Durham, NC 27705



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
Subject: Re: Repeaters
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Brian Ellsworth ([e-mail]) wrote:

: [e-mail] (Seth) wrote:
: >I'm looking to setup a repeater and I was wondering if anyone had
: >ideas as to what equipment is good.
: >It will be 2m band with autopatch and other little goodies.
: >thank you.
: >      Seth, KB2WLU

: Take it from the ex-co-ordinator of the NY,NJ,Ct areas. There is
: NO room for another 2 meter repeater in N.J. !

: no kidding.
: -be

Yhep, sounds like the L.A. area too. :-)

If you want lots of space, try the 1200 MHz band.  All over the U.S. there
are lots of frequencies ready to go.  I just got a used 1200 radio for less
money then a 2 meter used radio!  That was kool.


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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:36 1996
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In <4ejlgk$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Todd Little) wri
tes:
>In article <4eh4js$[e-mail]>
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Modification of amateur radio equipment is not illegal. Modification of Cit
izens
>> Band Radios is illegal.
>
>Wrong again.  Modification of CB radios is legal, but it invalidates
>the type acceptance of the radio making it illegal to *use* it once
>modified on the Citizen's Band.

What I meant was that modifying a CB is illegal if you plan on using it on
the cb band. If you use it for 10m or something in the ham bands then it is no
t
illegal. What the guy was saying at first that modifying all radios is illegal
. It
is not illegal to modify a scanner either but using it to listen to unauthoriz
ed
bands, ie cellular, is illegal.

73 de KC7GNM
Greg



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:37 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Todd Little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space
Subject: Re: Amsat Satelllite Contest, Should we have one?
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In article <4ek07i$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL) wrote:

>
> Amsat is debating having a yearly contest on the satellites, something besid
es
> Field Day.

Absolutely not.  Basically the person with the strongest uplink
wins at the expense of everyone else.  Although the transponders
may be 100-200 kHz wide, they have a fixed power budget and
operate in a linear fashion.  As a result several strong signals
would dominate the transponder and push everyone else's signals
into the mud.  Aren't there enough contests already?

73,
Todd
N9MWB



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:38 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John C. Oppenheimer)
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Subject: interference question
Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:01:40 -0600
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I am looking for interference that I have on 20M.  I have a carrier
every 65.646 KHz.  This one HZ number is the result of averaging many
measurements.

The signal is receiver independent, found on both an IC-738 and
SB-101.

The signal is strongest on 20M, S-9, but I can find it, though very
faint, on 40M.

The signal is a clean CW carrier and seems to be very stable in
frequency.

The signal strength is time of day independent.  The source must be
something local.

The signal is strongest by using the outside vertical.  A short wire
in the shack, close to the computers, has an appropriate attenuation
of the interference for an inside antenna.

Does anyone recognize the frequency?

Next is DFing it.  Knowing what I might be looking for may help.

John KN5L


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:39 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: The Whole story!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) writ
es:
>As treasurer of our local club, I have been asked to update my membership
>database with the license class of each member.  When I have finished, I
>will post a summary here.  As might be expected, most of our growth is in
>the no-code Tech class.  But last weekend, one of our 15-year-old members
>passed the Extra theory exam, and completed all requirements for that
>license.  His friend and classmate has his General, and is studying toward
>Advanced.  These two young fellows provided some needed inspiration to our
>club president and myself; we are working on Advanced and Extra,
>respectively.  Neither of us have any excuse, as the young guys were limited
>in the amount of study time, due to homework from school.  I have been
>sitting on Advanced since 1968.
>
>We do have five students in our General license class, and other members are
>studying for their upgrades independently.  So, interest in CW and HF is not
>dead here.

Well, interest in advancing through the ranks is not dead. Whether that
indicates a genuine interest in CW or whether it means CW is just another
barrier to overcome in meeting a different motivation is a separate matter.
It could be that they want to avoid the crap some higher class licensees
have been heaping on them (or not). Maybe they want to get on the good
HF phone frequencies, or operate HF digital. It's hard to say what their
motivation is, but it needn't be an interest in CW per se (though of course
it could be).

In any event, it certainly isn't a bad thing for an amateur to be
learning and advancing his skills. That's what he's supposed to do
*continously* over his entire ham career. It seems a pity that so
many think that learning must stop when the exams are passed. Just
because you haven't bothered to gather in that Extra wallpaper, does
that mean you haven't been learning and honing your skills since 1968?
I hope not.

Gary
--
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:40 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Amanda Newgrosh)
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Ever wanted to know about life, The Universe and Radio????

check out:
http://www.open.gov.uk/radiocom/rahome.htm

Amanda Newgrosh



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I realize that I have fallen to Drew's level of flaming and to all those who f
requent these newsgroups, I apologize.

When you have a target like Drew, it becomes very easy to be ensnared in his b
lack hole of illogical though
processes.  Due to this I had forgotten 2 very important idioms that have guid
ed me through life.  They are...

(1) Never argue with an idiot  and (2) If you don't have something nice to say
 about someone, don't say it..

With this in mind..I will conclude this flaming with the druster and get on wi
th the topics at hand.

DREW...arguing with you is like arguinbg with an idiot.... and I have nothing
more to say about that

steve


Onward and Upward  Forward into the pastttttttttt


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:43 1996
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-- I am after the following part for some ex-pmr gear if anybody
has the part or knows of a surplus supplier who may have the
part please e-mail at the below address

PART REQUIRED :

For Philips PFX handheld (ex-pmr) the accessories plug which fixes
on the side of the tx/rx for such facilities as external mic  etc.

MANY THANKS
P.


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-- I am after the following part for some ex-pmr gear if anybody
has the part or knows of a surplus supplier who may have the
part please e-mail at the below address

PART REQUIRED :

For Philips PFX handheld (ex-pmr) the accessories plug which fixes
on the side of the tx/rx for such facilities as external mic  etc.

MANY THANKS
P.

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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:46 1996
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From: Vincent Biancomano <[e-mail]>
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In response to Bill DuBroff:
I have seen both cases: those pushing for no-code as well
as no-theory, and a few pushing for both. Fred Maia, a VEC
"giant," said at Dayton in 1989, "we have to make the (theory)
exams easier so that women and children can pass them." It is
thus incorrect to say that no one is pushing for easier theory
requirements, and the progression that inevitably follows.

The key for hams is to secure a restoring of code and/or
theory exams (theory would have a higher priority, but both
would be beneficial), before agreeing to easing requirements
in any other direction. Otherwise, one comes to the
inescapable (and correct) conclusion that there's a movement
to ease requirements into the Service, period. Note carefully
also there are others who are questioning the value of exams
in general, right on this discussion group, so again, one
cannot declare "no one is pushing for easier theory
requirements."

The problem with the eased requirement scenario is that it
has yet to be shown that eased requirements would be
beneficial to the Amateur Service. If Part 97.1 is to
remain a viable component of the Amateur Service,
easing of requirements does not fit in. If, on the other
hand, ARRL and FCC wish to declare the new purpose and goals
of the Amateur Service, it would be more professional of
them to do it now, and get on with rebuilding a new Service.
In that way, at least, no one operates under false pretenses.
The new challenge then becomes justifying one's frequency
allocations under the new rules of the game.

Regards,
Vince, WB2EZG



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From: [e-mail] (K1UM)
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Subject: ham radio license plates wanted
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Collector looking for ham radio license plates.

Need NJ & KY to complete all states;
Need SASK to complete all provinces.

always looking for old or unusual plates or
plates from different years...

thanks & 73, Tom [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:48 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Ej Johnson)
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Subject: Club Call signs (how?)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:05:00 GMT
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 Can anyone tell me how to apply for a club Call?


What forms do I need?

Etc..Etc??

                Thanks,

                        N6oid
                EJ!
---
 * OLX 2.1 TD * "Not tonight baby.....I have a modem."


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>>
>>Locate jumper "A6" as illustrated in the owners manual. Above "A6" you'll se
e a
>>small ball of
>>solder. Using solder wick, CAREFULLY remove the solder, exposing the split
>>circular pad
>>beneath. The space between the pads is very small so be sure to remove all t
he
>>solder. Reassemble
>>the radio and you're done!
>>
>>Blackshadow
>>
>
>   Many thanks my friend who ever you are.  I am curious to know who "Grove"
is that
>you mention.  Could you comment on this?  I am in the Two-way radio service b
usiness
>and have need of this blocked range of frequencies to monitor for interferenc
e . I
>thought for a while I was going to have to resort to a R9000 which is awfully

>expensive.  Again many thanks.  I would like to hear from you here or on my E
-Mail
>[e-mail]=>
=====================================================================

Hmmm... If you can buy a new R9000 (since you are in a business that will
allow you to do so), then you can get an un-restricted R-7100.

Me, I'm lucky. I have an older R-7100, full coverage! (No, it's *not* for
sale!!) :-)

Bill Funk



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On 29-Jan-96 14:53:38, Drew Durigan tried to articulate:

>For once, you are correct about something.  We do seem to have a jammer
>problem, and it's on our machine.  The problem was particularily bad this
>past weekend.  In fact, it's quite a remarkable coincidence that you
>should mention this...especially since the "jammer" maliciously
>interfered with several of my transmissions and even spoke up to mention
>my name and call me a "moron" on one occasion.  Gee, Steve, you wouldn't
>have anything to do with this, now would you?  You have to admit, it's
>quite an amazing coincidence.

So not only do most readers of rec.radio.amateur.* think you're a moron,
all the people in your hometown do as well?

Good god man, engage your brain.  If everything around you seems crazy, I'll
*BET* the world isn't changing around you, quite the opposite.



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:51 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mistie Mullarkey)
Subject: Re: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
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Roger Books ([e-mail]) writes:
>
(huge snip)
> If you want to limit the pool why not limit it to those actually willing
> to study and learn something useful?
>
> Roger
>
>

They already "limit" the "pool" with the code. Those that don't want to
learn code don't get their licence at that level. You say that code is
outdated, but then again HF is outdated in some respects.

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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:53 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
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Gary Coffman ([e-mail]) wrote:

: In any event, it certainly isn't a bad thing for an amateur to be
: learning and advancing his skills. That's what he's supposed to do
: *continously* over his entire ham career. It seems a pity that so
: many think that learning must stop when the exams are passed. Just
: because you haven't bothered to gather in that Extra wallpaper, does
: that mean you haven't been learning and honing your skills since 1968?
: I hope not.

Definitely not.  I actually came by my formal education in electronics after
1968.  Thanks to eight years in the Air Force, where I spent most of the
first year in school 30 hours a week learning basic electronics and radar
principles, then spending the next seven years maintaining and supervising
the installation of air traffic control radar systems.  All it would have
taken was a quick trip over to New Orleans to the FCC office, plus a
brush-up on the code and study of the license guide for the materials I
didnt already know.  I have no excuse for not having been an Extra for
several years now.

I am currently studying the ARRL Extra Class License Guide from cover to
cover, even though a couple of the OT Extras at the local club have
advocated just memorizing the test pool questions.  Pride in being formerly
involved in electronics technology just will not let me be a memorizer.

The first time I saw an article critical of those who do not upgrade beyond
the no-code ranks, it disturbed me.  In 1966, there was not much going on
above 30 mHz, but today there is a lot more to being a Tech than yakking on
FM.  But your point made me realize that the ham tradition encourages us to
advance the state of the art, which implies advancing our own skills.

Jim - KF6CR



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From: [e-mail] (Art Winterbauer)
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Subject: FTP site for NOSview?
Date: 30 Jan 1996 22:25:36 -0700
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I would like an FTP site for the latest version of NOSview.  I tried
ucsd.edu but it refused anonymous login.

Tnx/73 de Art, N0OQS

--
Art
[e-mail] OR [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:55 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Mack)
Subject: Re: Launching a balloon?  What do I need?
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Gary
 Coffman) writes:
>In article <4e31r6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Wagn
er) writes:
>>Our local club is interested in a couple of balloon launch scenerios.
>>
>>1)  We would like to put up a tethered weather balloon at Field Day.  It
>>would serve 2 purposes: It would carry a dual band radio to use as a remote
>>base, and it would be tethered with wire, making it a beautiful 160 meter
>>vertical.  I'm interested in altitudes of between 2000 and 10000 ft.
>
>Pardon me, but this is dangerous as hell except in rather special
>circumstances. In the first place, a tethered weather balloon will
>lay almost horizontal in any wind. It won't just hover straight

I've used a balloon tethered with wire for field day to make a 160
m antenna and it was a real bust. THe balloon was the biggest I
could find (10' diam) and you have to go get the He to pump it up.
Unless there was absolutely NO breeze at all the thing lay flat
on the ground for most of the length of wire and this was the
finest wire I could find. A 10' balloon has a lot of trouble
holding up this length of wire, much less tethers as well - Ican't
remember what we used for tethers.
There's no way you could put an HT up there even.
It sounded a great idea. I agree with everything Gary says.
We hadn't thought about the thing getting loose and dragging
across power lines.

Joe NA3T
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:56 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Nick Zoda)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Icom service.  Where?
Date: 30 Jan 1996 23:29:07 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Can anyone point me to an authorized Icom Service center for me to send my
Icom
>736 for repair.  Deaf receiver.  It would be nice to find a place within the
>New England region (so I can hand carry) but will ship it if needed.  Thanks.
>David Bourque WB1FLD
>email: [e-mail]

Look at www.icomamerica.com (www.oz.inet/icom/) for address and listing.
They have a technical support mail address ([e-mail]).  I was
looking for a phone number for support, but only found the e-mail address.
They answered my e-mail request within 20 minutes.

                - Nick Zoda



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From: [e-mail]  (KF2TI - Steve)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "cronic problem cb users"
Date: 31 Jan 1996 01:06:13 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) writes:
>  >  Try cutting the coax were it goes into the house and hope that the
>  >radio is close to the area and the coax is loose and run for all your
>  >worth.  I know of someone who did this and smashed the radio all to heck
>
>
>  Why just HOPE that the radio will be smashed "all to heck?"  Insure this
>  result will be achieved by tugging on the coax until said radio is pulled
>  up to where the coax goes into the wall/window.  Then, simply let go and
>  listen for a loud crashing sound.  Unless the coax has some sort of
>  strain relief on the other end, the poor little meathead is looking at
>  one messed-up radio.  At the very least, it will have scratched the radio
>  and damaged whatever was sitting on top of it.  If you're real lucky, the
>  radio will have fallen onto a cement floor and suffered damage to it's
>  insides.
>
>  -Drew in Charlotte-
>
>
>>>>



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:53:58 1996
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From: [e-mail]   (Bill Newkirk)
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Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain
Date: 31 Jan 1996 02:23:33 GMT
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In <4eh4js$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>Modification of amateur radio equipment is not illegal. Modification of Citiz
ens
>Band Radios is illegal.
>73 de KC7GNM
>Greg

The modification of cb gear isn't illegal..there were lots of cb rigs converte
d to
low power 10 m rigs after the cb bust in the last decade.

in general the modification of equipment isn't were the illegality is. it's th
e use
of non-type accepted equipment where type acceptance is required.

Bill Newkirk WB9IVR                  The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group
Melbourne, FL                       duty now for the future of amateur radio
Lombardi's 1st Law of Business:
Companies succeed in spite of their best effort.  If they succeed at all.



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:00 1996
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From: [e-mail](Gerald Schmitt )
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In <4elm3k$[e-mail]> [e-mail]  ( Steve - KF2TI)
Landing, NJ writes:
>
>I realize that I have fallen to Drew's level of flaming and to all
those who frequent these newsgroups, I apologize.
>
>When you have a target like Drew, it becomes very easy to be ensnared
in his black hole of illogical though
>processes.  Due to this I had forgotten 2 very important idioms that
have guided me through life.  They are...
>
>(1) Never argue with an idiot  and (2) If you don't have something
nice to say about someone, don't say it..
>
>With this in mind..I will conclude this flaming with the druster and
get on with the topics at hand.
>
>DREW...arguing with you is like arguinbg with an idiot.... and I have
nothing more to say about that
>
>steve
>
>
>Onward and Upward  Forward into the pastttttttttt


Good on you Steve I agree there has been enough. I'm only sorry I
didn't see this post before the shot I took at you this morning. Let's
get some usefull discussion going here. The whole code anti-code has
probably done more to drive away potential hams than anything else.

In our area I regularly speak at Hamfests and Club meetings on
satellites and technical issues. I admit I take pride in teaching guys
who have been extras since there was such a thing. We all get along
pretty well and with a few exceptions there is very little attention
paid to what class of license anyone has.

One of the fellows I work with is a Scout leader and I just got him to
get his codeless tech he found an advanced who is father of one of the
boys and the troop will be borrowing the local club station for the
Jamboree on the Air this Fall. I hope we work your troop and foster a
little good will for a change.

                73 Jerry


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:01 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
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In article <4el8g3$[e-mail]>, WA8ULX <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Well Drew since you fell that CW is a waste of time for testing
>purposes,then I assume that you would be in favor of a real theory test
>for upgrading and I dont meen the Memorization Test  that our being given
>now. or is that to much to ask for.

I can't speak for Drew, but I certainly would like to see a "real" theory
test, although I'm not exactly sure what it would be.

Please respect the Followup-to: line.

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


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From: [e-mail] (KY1T Luck)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Amsat Satelllite Contest, Should we have one?
Date: 31 Jan 1996 05:48:43 -0500
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I'd prefer to see AMSAT substantially beef up their awards program.

There's a number of reasons why a short-term contest can't enjoy
participation by the largest number of possible people.  But the notion of
chasing a particularly attractive piece of wallpaper (or plaque) can be
aspired to by a far wider subset of satellite-capable radio amateurs.

Besides, it's a longer term committment (from both AMSAT's and the
membership's perspective) that I think is conducive to AMSAT's continued
good health as an organization.

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53 Broadview St. Newington Ct 06111         [phone]
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Web Page -- http://home.aol.com/KY1TLUCK
Finally employed again Software Engineer/Database Administrator
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:03 1996
From: [e-mail] (Jerry B Altzman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Math's notes: undiscovered 50 GHz + ?
Date: 31 Jan 1996 06:48:09 GMT
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In article <4elckr$[e-mail]>, Zack Lau  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Why can't the experts agree on what causes E-skip and accurately
>predict the best weekends to hold 6 meter contests?

Coherent scattering of RF off of nitrogen molecules.

Next?

>Zack KH6CP/1

//jbaltz
jerry b. altzman   Entropy just isn't what it used to be      [phone]
[e-mail]   [e-mail]  KE3ML  (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:04 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Mats NΣslund)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL info: 9Y4H, BY7KQ/7
Date: 31 Jan 1996 08:39:47 GMT
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Can someone help me with qsl-info for the following two
stations, qso:ed during the 1995 CQ WW CW contest:

        BY7KQ/7

        9Y4H

Tnx in advance

Mats, SM3LGO

--------------------------------------------------------
Mats Naslund
Dept of Numerical Analysis and Computing Science
Royal Institute of Technology
Stockholm, Sweden

email: [e-mail]
http://www.nada.kth.se/~matsn/
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:05 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gerard Foley)
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Subject: Re: Amsat Satelllite Contest, Should we have one?
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Vince Fiscus,  KB7ADL ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Amsat is debating having a yearly contest on the satellites, something besid
es
: Field Day.

: Should there be one?

: 73 de KB7ADL

No.  The comments of others about satellite hogging should prevail.  There
are stations that have set up on packet to connect to MIR through the whole
pass, every pass!  Very unfortunate, but all we can do is minimize the
temptations.
Gerry K8EF




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:06 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Tom Randolph)
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Subject: Re: Morse code Cry Babys!!!
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In article <4ejft1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Roger
 Books) writes...
>Now, as someone setting up to take the no-code technician test, what
>kind of MORON came up with the current test setup?

>If you want to limit the pool why not limit it to those actually willing
>to study and learn something useful?

Exactly. The current question pool system is a joke. This the the 90s, we have
the technology, let's develop a test generator program. Let's generate a custo
m
test (and answer key) that can't be memorized for each applicant. Let's test
knowledge, not memory.

I agree that the morse code issue is only a matter of time. Once there was a
need to know it for emergency comms, now that need is all but gone. This
doesn't mean I think hams shouldn't learn it - there's a whole world of radio
you'd miss out on if you didn't!

==============================================================================
Tom Randolph  N1OOQ  NE-QRP 419  QRP-L 87  ARRL      [e-mail]
==============================================================================


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:07 1996
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From: [e-mail] (William R. Hester)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Finding power line noise source
Date: 31 Jan 1996 13:10:18 -0700
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The interferrence could also be coming from a street light.

Bill

--
Bill Hester, Ham Radio N0LAJ, Denver CO., USA - N0LAJ@W0LJF.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM
Please route replies to: [e-mail] or uunet!nyx!whester
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:08 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew John Murrell)
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Subject: What ssb rig ????
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Hi,

Now that my 2/70 hand held has just packed up I was thinking about getting
a ssb rig.  My first problem is what frequency to get (i'm only a B license
(above 30 Mhz only), and the second is what rig ?

I was hoping to maybe work some dx, so I was thinking about 6m, would I find
much out there (my qth is 12 miles from Gatwick airport (in a valley :{ )).

To get the most out of my signal (I can't use 2 much power as I live in a
housing estate), I was thinking of using a beam, would this be the best bet ??

Sorry if these questions sound daft, but i've only ever used ssb at JOTA.

Andy, g7ueh

(before anyone suggests it, i am 'slowly' learning morse, but i need something
to play with in the mean time !!!)

email - [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:09 1996
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From: John Lloyd KE4UTX <[e-mail]>
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Subject: U.S. Islands
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Hello,
        I'm trying to find a list of U.S. Islands for the islands
award program. Does anyone know if one is available on the Web?

73 John KE4UTX

--
John Lloyd
Email - [e-mail]
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From: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Clegg FM-27B and Regency radios
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>I'd like to echo Gary's sentiments. I too had a FM-27B, and what he
>says is correct, though technically it didn't have a VFO, rather it
>had multiple VXOs. The only dirtier rig I've owned was the Regency HR-2.
>And at least it didn't drift, the Clegg did. It was certainly a novel
>radio for its time, but not something I'd want to put back on the air
>today.


Hi all!

I have also owned the Clegg FM-27B and reflect the same problems with
its spurious output. I also had severe intermod and overload promlems
on receive, as well. It was a novelty radio to own, though, in a day
when most radios were crystal controlled and had only 6 to 12 channels.
If I remember correctly, the Clegg also was one of the few that put
out a full 25 watts in a day when 10 watts was the norm for most rigs.

As far as the Regency, I have never owned an HR-2, but I still own an
HR-6, 6 meter rig. Those radios have the most un-stable transmitter I
have ever seen. You can keep the spurs down if you tune the transmitter
on the frequency you intend to use most, into the antenna you will be
using. Don't change frequencies, though, because you will throw spurs
all over the band!

I operate on 52.525 Mhz with this radio, and if my mobile antenna gets
wet, causing the SWR to rise, The transmitter goes nuts and I start to
bring up a repeater that has its input on 51.80, almost 2 miles away!
Now thats a sloppy transmitter!!!

I would like to see more stories relating to the classic radios going back
to the days when repeaters were just becoming popular----back in the
days when you were lucky to have 10 watts, a Ringo, and 6 channels.
It would be much better reading than all of the mud that is being slung
back and forth on this newsgroup!

73 de WA3RVT, Steve



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:13 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Seth Taylor)
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I want to modify my own telephone for RFI proofing. The BeLL System
practice 500-150-100 covers fixing 500 and 2500 telsets for RFI. They
recommend replacing the internal network of the phone with a 425J. Does
anyone have a source for this part or have a way of getting the component
values for the resistors that are added in the circuit of the standard 425
network ? I don't wana spend 80 bucks for a modified phone when all it takes
is a few simple mods to do the job.

Seth KC2WE


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:14 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: interference question
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In article <4em0vk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John C. Oppenheimer)
writes:
>
>I am looking for interference that I have on 20M.  I have a carrier
>every 65.646 KHz.  This one HZ number is the result of averaging many
>measurements.
>
>The signal is receiver independent, found on both an IC-738 and
>SB-101.
>
>The signal is strongest on 20M, S-9, but I can find it, though very
>faint, on 40M.
>
>The signal is a clean CW carrier and seems to be very stable in
>frequency.
>
>The signal strength is time of day independent.  The source must be
>something local.
>
>The signal is strongest by using the outside vertical.  A short wire
>in the shack, close to the computers, has an appropriate attenuation
>of the interference for an inside antenna.
>
>Does anyone recognize the frequency?
>
>Next is DFing it.  Knowing what I might be looking for may help.

I think this may be a "fenceless fence", John. Do any of your neighbors
have dogs? These devices use a buried perimeter wire excited by a signal
in the 60 kHz range. The dog wears a collar that gives him a shock if
he approaches the wire too closely. What you're hearing is probably
harmonics from this. Your IC-738 should be able to tune this range
directly, have a listen.

Gary

--
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:16 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Matt C. Brinkhoff)
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Subject: Re: FT 767 Extended Rx/tx Mods Anyone ?
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micio ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I got a Yaesu FT 767 GX, with 144 Mhz unit. It's a good rig, expecially for
: The 2m unit works till 145.999.
: My question is: how to extend till 147.999 ?
: The same problem is on the other unit (430 Mhz)!

There is a "mod" to take care of your 2M problem on the QRZ ftp site.  After
a reset, the 2M module defaults to that Japanese 2M band (144-146MHz).  To
reset it to US 2M, you have to turn the backup switch off and hold down the
"2" key on the keypad while turning the rig on.  The 430 module only
supports 430-440, if you want to use the upper half of 70cm, you have to
replace the module with the 440-450 one.

: It's also possible to extend TX capabilities ?

There is a switch you can flip inside the rig to make it xmit pretty much
anywhere on HF.  Again, the actual mod is on the QRZ site.

Incidentally, I'm looking for a 6M module for my 767, if anyone has one
they'd like to part with.

--
Matt C. Brinkhoff, KB0RXC
[e-mail]
Lincoln, Nebraska [EN10]


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SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX004
ARLX004 Nick Marshall, W6OLO, SK

ZCZC AX50
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 4  ARLX004
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 31, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX004
ARLX004 Nick Marshall, W6OLO, SK

Nick Marshall, W6OLO, a pioneer in the amateur satellite world and
one of the founders of Project OSCAR 35 years ago has died.  He was
81.  At the time of his death, Marshall was serving as the president
of Project Oscar.  Services were held January 28 in Sebastapol,
California, where Nick lived.

AMSAT President Bill Tynan, W3XO, who had known Nick for almost 30
years, called him an inspiration to early AMSAT enthusiasts.  Bill
added that if Nick's dream of an Amateur Radio transponder on the
Moon could ever be realized, it should carry the call sign W6OLO.
NNNN
/EX


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SB QST @ ARL $ARLB008
ARLB008 FCC affirms 219-220 MHz

ZCZC AG87
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 8  ARLB008
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT  January 31, 1996
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB008
ARLB008 FCC affirms 219-220 MHz

The FCC has affirmed the secondary allocation of 219-220 MHz for
Amateur Radio.  The action, for the most part, denies a Petition for
Reconsideration filed by Orion Telecom, an Automated Maritime
Telecommunications System licensee.  Orion had argued to rescind the
decision to allocate 219-220 MHz to ham radio saying the 50-mile
exclusion distance between AMTS and amateur operations was
insufficient to protect primary AMTS operations from harmful
interference.  Orion asserted that a 575-mile exclusion distance was
necessary, which would have precluded Amateur Radio operation in
many areas.  AMTS coast stations use 219-220 MHz to receive, and
217-218 MHz to transmit.

The FCC did agree with Orion's concern that the amateur rules do not
adequately specify the frequency range of AMTS operations.  The FCC
amended its rules to specifically call attention to the fact that
one must look at 217-218 MHz assignments to know what AMTS coast
stations are operating in a given area.

ARRL Executive Vice President David Sumner, K1ZZ, says the League is
pleased that the FCC reaffirmed its commitment to provide some
relief to the Amateur Service at 219-220 MHz to offset the loss of
access to 220-222 MHz.  He says the ARRL has a procedure in place to
ensure that amateurs planning to use 219-220 MHz are aware of their
obligations to avoid harmful interference to other services.
NNNN
/EX


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:20 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl)
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Subject: No Theory...was Re: No Code = No Brain
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Vincent Biancomano <[e-mail]> wrote:

>In response to Bill DuBroff:
>I have seen both cases: those pushing for no-code as well
>as no-theory, and a few pushing for both. Fred Maia, a VEC
>"giant," said at Dayton in 1989, "we have to make the (theory)
>exams easier so that women and children can pass them." It is
>thus incorrect to say that no one is pushing for easier theory
>requirements, and the progression that inevitably follows.

Well if that is the sum and substance of those pushing
lower theory testing, then your assertions in this venue
that put an implied equal weight on it are totally off the mark.

For the sake of this discussion, I think it is safe to
say that NO ONE has suggested in this USENET
arena that we should lower or eliminate theory testing.
Additionally, even if you can point to one or two individuals
that have, you know very well that it is an extreme minority
viewpoint that isn't shared by the vast majority of
hams on either side of the code/no code issue.

>The key for hams is to secure a restoring of code and/or
>theory exams (theory would have a higher priority, but both
>would be beneficial), before agreeing to easing requirements
>in any other direction.

Restoring what code exams?  Are you now saying the
no code tech license should be eliminated?

> Otherwise, one comes to the
>inescapable (and correct) conclusion that there's a movement
>to ease requirements into the Service, period. Note carefully
>also there are others who are questioning the value of exams
>in general, right on this discussion group, so again, one
>cannot declare "no one is pushing for easier theory
>requirements."

Who and how often?  I restate my comments above.

>The problem with the eased requirement scenario is that it
>has yet to be shown that eased requirements would be
>beneficial to the Amateur Service.

This is only an issue if there is any movement to ease
requirements (other than the CW).  Otherwise, this
is just a diversion on your part from the basic question
of code/slow code/no code debate.

> If Part 97.1 is to
>remain a viable component of the Amateur Service,
>easing of requirements does not fit in.

Changing requirements does not need to simply translate
into easing requirments.

> If, on the other
>hand, ARRL and FCC wish to declare the new purpose and goals
>of the Amateur Service, it would be more professional of
>them to do it now, and get on with rebuilding a new Service.

No one in this newsgroup seems to be suggesting this
as a possibility other than yourself.  The sky is not falling.

>In that way, at least, no one operates under false pretenses.
>The new challenge then becomes justifying one's frequency
>allocations under the new rules of the game.

Or it isn't an issue if none of the above is true, which is exactly
what I'll assert here.



Bill Sohl  K2UNK
ARRL Local Gov't Liason, Mt. Olive Township, NJ



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:21 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Lowman)
Subject: Re: To QSL or not to QSL, that is the question!
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Richard Barnaby ([e-mail]) wrote:
: To QSL or not to QSL, that is the Question

: Perhaps we need a way to designate our QSL strategy via a code.
: These days QSL has become (in common usage) a synonym for "R"oger as
: in "QSL the five by nine".  (At least it seems that way to me)

First of all, in an earlier reply, I made the mistake of using QSL card in
the same sentence as junk mail.  This is definitely not a good analogy.  I
always did enjoy swapping QSL cards, no matter if it was my 10th NY or CA
QSO.  I therefore retract the statement, with apologies to the group.

It's enlightening to see the changes over the 30 years that I have been a
ham.  Back then, as I recall, it was the custom to discuss QSL/not to QSL
near the end of the QSO.  I did, occasionally, run into someone who didn't
play the game, so I didn't waste my time or money or card.  Unless customs
have changed in 30 years, I still advocate this approach.  That way, there
are no bad feelings or unfulfilled expectations.  Also, back 30 years, the
"QSL is the final courtesy of a QSO" expression was the rule.  As far as
courtesy in general, things have definitely changed over the years.  Also,
most of the domestic hams I worked didn't bother with a first-class stamp
and envelope, much less a SASE; they simply stuck a postcard stamp on the
card.  I always did enjoy getting cards in an envelope, though, because
they usually took less of a beating in the mail, and didn't have any postal
cancellation marks on them.

I have no strong feelings on this issue, and can appreciate the views
expressed by both sides, to a point.  If we play the game as some advocate
today, it can amount to 64 cents/QSL card.  I don't know many hams who are
wealthy.  Let's says you received those hypothetical 100 cards as a result
of participating in a contect.  That's 64 bucks, folks, 32 if you are on the
receiving end of an unsolicited cards!  I have heard it said in general,
that some people had stopped sending even Christmas cards, or cut down their
lists, several postal increases ago.  I think due consideration needs to be
given to the fact that times are hard for some, and many hams are operating
their stations on a tight budget.

Just one ham's opinion, FWIW.

73 de Jim - KF6CR



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:23 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Carroll J Shelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ICOM IC720/720A Mods
Date: 31 Jan 1996 18:25:46 GMT
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Paul Shayler ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello, I have a couple friends who own ICOM IC-720A HF trxs Does anyone
: have any info on modifications or any other interesting info about this
: trx?

Jan 96 QST had a tech letter on a mod to the rotary relay to
reduce the LOUD Clack-clack-CLACK a 720A makes when switching
bands.  Haven't tried this on mine yet but intend to.

Same letter also noted that ICOM has discontinued this relay
as a replacement part.  Being mechanical, it is the item
that most often goes on a 720A. So when it goes, so does
the radio . . .
                Jeff Shelton/KS4TL


From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:24 1996
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:25 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Michael L. Ardai)
Subject: Re: To QSL or not to QSL, that is the question!
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jim Lowman) writ
es:
-Richard Barnaby ([e-mail]) wrote:
-: To QSL or not to QSL, that is the Question
...
-If we play the game as some advocate
-today, it can amount to 64 cents/QSL card.  I don't know many hams who are
-wealthy.  Let's says you received those hypothetical 100 cards as a result
-of participating in a contect.  That's 64 bucks, folks, 32 if you are on the
-receiving end of an unsolicited cards!

I thought this discussion was about handling QSLs that you receive.
Obviously, whether you originate a card should be your own choice.  The
big issue is what to do with unsolicited cards you receive.  If I want
a QSL returned, I always send a SASE (or SAE/Green Stamp) with it
(except some DX thru the buro, and I usually hand-deliver to local club
members and they do the same in return).  Looks like I have about 75
cases where cards and SASEs have been sent out to US hams who haven't
even taken the trouble to respond.  These includes contesters, and
even some of the NASA Apollo 11 special event stations.  The only one
in the list who I feel has a valid excuse is W1TMO, who is unfortunately
a Silent Key.
/mike

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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:26 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Erik K.Sorgatz)
Subject: ITU non-signatory countries & QRM on ham bands
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 Is there a chance in hell that the Amateur's of the World might exert
sufficient influence (economically, politically or via the UN) to stop
the broadcast industry's qrm?

 Specifically, I refer to the obvious offenders: Japan on 160m, Korea
on 80 & 40m, People's Republic of China on 20 & 15m and the whole lesser
arcana of countries that allow it's broadcasters to use frequencies that
are nominally allocated to Amateur operations. (Anyone got a complete
list of the ITU non-sigs? Maybe I should write them and ask for a list
to post here for reference?)

 Let us begin with Japan's station that usually sits at 1812 KHz...WHY is
it still there? Would the government of Japan be interested in a ONE MONTH
boycott of all Japanese products by hams to show support in wanting simple
compliance with the ITU bandplan??

 Something to think about...
..as you listen to the war zone on 40m!


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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:27 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Malcolm Loudon)
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Hi,

I am looking for FTP/WWW sites that carry RF CAD utilities. For
example software to calculate matching networks, microstrip
parameters, that type of thing. I have tried



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:28 1996
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From: "William M. Bickley" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: NIR-10 Upgrade....Worthwhile????
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[e-mail] (Bob Horvath) wrote:
>Is the Version 4.0 upgrade to the NIR-10 worth getting?
>

Well, the price is right, and the work is near-zero.  Now, to answer your
question...

Personally,  I think the previous version did a better job.  Whatever, advice
you
get, if you do choose to upgrade, save the old chips.  You may end up swapping
 them
back in.  I didn't, and now I'm sorry.

Bill  KF2ON




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From: [e-mail] (Tony Pelliccio)
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In article <4emuol$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>DREW...arguing with you is like arguinbg with an idiot.... and I have
>nothing more to say about that
>
>You have typing skills like this...and I'M supposed to be the idiot?
>

Nah, just a nitpicker.

Tony



--
== Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
== As offensive as I wanna be.
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:30 1996
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w
           ****** St. Valentine's Special Event ******

Note:  Please disregard any prior information on this event
unless you read it in QST.

The Metropolitan Amateur Radio Club Inc. will sponsor its 5th St.
Valentine's special event station on Sunday February 11, 1996 at
Romance, Arkansas.

Operations begin at 1500 utc through 2200utc.

Operation will be on ssb and cw in the general portions of the 20
and 40 meter bands.

Station call will be N5RLJ  (Phonetics-- Nuptial 5 Romeo Loves
Juliet).

For a commemorative QSL;

Send SASE to address listed in QST or
c/o Metropolitan Amateur Radio Club
P. O. Box 1793
North Little Rock, Ar  72115


 Hope to work you on the 11th.

Happy Valentine's and 73,

Paul Graziani  WD5BIV
packet wd5biv@kk5aa.#cenar.ar.usa.noam
internet [e-mail]





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The Raymond Sarrio Company╣s Ham Radio WWW site is proud to announce a
FREE Ham Radio classified advertising page at
http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html. This new classified page will allow Hams
to find equipement with the help of a search engine--no need to scroll
through 100╣s of listing before you find that special piece of gear. Plus,
when you find the gear you'er interested in, you are also provided with
easy point-and-click e-mail access, directly to the Ham that listed the
item.

For those Hams with gear to sell, take note! there is NO charge to list
your equipment within Ham Classifieds, and there will be no posting time
delays.  Your posting(s) will go on-line in our classified search engine
in about 1 hour. All you need do is fill out a simple forms page, and upon its
(point-and-click) submission your │For Sale▓ classified is immediately
on-line.

I will be purging the classified listings initially, about once every
month, but that timeline will shorten as our classified numbers grow.

Give it a try, and let me know how you like it (we are still beta testing)
73╣s Ray
--
The Raymond Sarrio Co. a full feature Ham Radio Storefront on tth WWW at http:
//www.csz.com/sarrio in association with Brillar Enterprises http://win-win.co
m/brillar an Extensive Discount CD-Rom Catalog!



From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:32 1996
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From: [e-mail] (John Seney)
Subject: Mac/Ham Users Group
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"Macnet Roster" (ver. 730) has just been updated and is now a stand-alone
application! The version number = the number of hams using Macs.

"Macnet Roster" lists:

    o CALL SIGN @ HOME PBBS
    o FULL NAME
    o ADDRESS
    o CITY, STATE, ZIP
    o INTERNET ADDRESS
    o MACS USED
    o RADIOS USED
    o SOFTWARE USED
    o PASSIONS
    o COMMENTS

of every known amateur radio operator in the world that uses a Mac computer.

You can use "Macnet Roster" to find other Mac users that you can then
communicate with directly. Compare notes on software, applications, ideas,
hints and kinks, and make new ham friends that use the same computer you do.
(You already know how cool you are - imagine accessing "the rest of us"!)

      If you'd like the latest "Macnet Roster":

    Send me a formatted disk in a self addressed and stamped disk mailer
    that is in a large envelope clearly marked "ROSTER".

Or connect to my home page via the WWW

http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v

Put YOUR INFO (via EMAIL or disk using TEACH TEXT) if you'd like to be include
d
in the "Macnet Roster" or send an update to your stats to me via pkt or email
anytime.


73,

Check out my Home Page for:

                       ÇáDigital Storage Scope.FAQ
                          ÇáAmateur Radio On-Line/Off-Line Tests
                             ÇáMacnet Software FTPs

                John D. Seney  ÇáÇáÇ Ç  [e-mail]
         144 Pepperidge Drive  ÇáÇáÇ Ç  www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v
    Manchester, NH 03103-6150  ÇáÇáÇ Ç  [e-mail] (40 character pagi
ng)
      [e-mail]  ÇáÇáÇ Ç  603-533-3472 (car w/vm & page)

 Ç LeCroy Sales Engineer Ç Applications/Sales/Customer Service Ç 800-553-2769
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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:33 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Hugh Carson)
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Subject: Bermuda Repeater
Date: 31 Jan 1996 23:21:57 GMT
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Is there a 2-meter repeater in Bermuda?? Frequency???
Thanks.


-
  HUGH CARSON  [e-mail]




From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:34 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Boardman)
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Subject: Propagation N.M. to Baja ????
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    A old friend of mine will shortly be sailing south from San Diego along
  the west coast of Baja California.  He has an old 35w rig on his sailboat,
  but it only covers 80,40,and 20 meters.  I just got my tech+ license and
  I'm in the process of getting my HF rig on the air.  We wanted to set up
  a schedule to try to contact each other, but I don't know enough about
  propagation to know which bands and times would be the best to try.
  I'm in Albuquerque, N.M., so the distances will range from 700 miles
  to 1200-1300 miles as he heads south.  After looking at some propagation
  charts, it seems like 40 meters in the evening might be our best bet.
  Does anyone having more experience in this area have any other suggestions
  as to frequencies and times that might work better?

  TIA & 73,

  -Bob

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From [e-mail] Mon Feb 05 21:54:35 1996
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From: [e-mail] (Murray Kelly)
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Subject: Re: Operating in Australia
Date: 31 Jan 1996 23:46:02 +1000
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[e-mail] writes:

>Hello to all.  I was hoping someone out there can tell me how and what to
>obtain to operate in Australia.  I will be spending 5 1/2 months there and
>have just now decided that there is some room for ham gear and some time to
>operate between classes.  Any and all inforation would be GREATLY appreciated
.
>Thanks...
>                        Pete Fahringer, KA3ROG

>                        Email- [e-mail]
>                        Tel.#- [phone]
>                 HTTP://www.lehigh.edu/~pef2/pef2.html
>                     Burn Calories Not Gasoline


It's pretty straight forward. Bring your current (valid) certificate
and present yourself to the local (nearest) Dept of Transport &
Communication (DoTC). Takes about half an hour. You will likely get
to chose your call from the unallocated listings. Cost - gulp - is much
more than you pay at home. Currently AU$51. US$38.

Have a nice stay.

Murray Kelly. VK4AOK.