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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:12 1995
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Subject: RS HTX-212 Problems
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 95 10:10:22 EST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: HumberNet LSS
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>
> Performs excellently as advertised except they don't exactly shout the
> fact that you can't store out of band in memory now, do they, even though
> other manufacturers seem to have no problem making this happen.....
>
>
> -
>   JAMES DEAN KD4USF  [e-mail]


It's no technical challenge to be able to store out of band
frequencies...  R/S is trying to avoid getting caught up in
the sale of Amateur equipment that can be perceived as illegal.
Their HTX-100 10 meter rig and HTX-202 2M HT where "Ham Only"
( The HTX-100 had USB/CW only...unworthy of CB use and the 202
does not go out-of-band at all.)  The HTX-212 reluctantly crosses
this line...you can see that there are still limitations (no
out-of-band store or TX).

I'm a firm believer in using the "right tools for the job"...
I have Amateur Radio equipment for use in the Ham bands
and a scanner for LISTENING from DC to light.
You shouldn't incriminate R/S for selling Amateur equipment that
doesn't do what it is not meant to (It's a HAM transsciever, not a
scanner!).
It's nice for some to have the ability to use their Ham rig to listen
outside of the band but I personally don't like to substitute front-end
rejection for that privledge. I use my scanner for that and suffer
little or no intermod on my 2m Ham rig.

...and now, back to scanners...


Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto



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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:12 1995
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Subject: S-METER FOR PRO-2006
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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 95 10:10:22 EST
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>
>
> On 24 Sep 95 11:46pm, CHUCK UFARLEY wrote to ALL:
>  CU>


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:13 1995
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From: Matt Hurst <[e-mail]>
Subject: NEC 7A Phones
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Help!!

Does anyone have the 15way pin-out connections and code to enter to turn
the NEC 7A car phone into a scanner??

If you can help, it would be much appreciated.

Mail: [e-mail]

Thanks!!

Matt



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:14 1995
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From: Jeff Long <long>
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Subject: Have NASCAR Freqs?
Date: 2 Oct 1995 16:15:58 GMT
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I'm headed to a Winston Cup race and was wondering if anyone has this year's
frequency list.  Thanks.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (BARRY GOLFETTO)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pogsag
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 95 17:14:00 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Westonia Computer Systems of Canada
Reply-To: [e-mail] (BARRY GOLFETTO)
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Hi

        I live in Toronto Canada. I figured that was important to say as I
rarely can figure where people at sending messages from...anyways. I built
the pogsag "cable" and it works great. I am able to receive a bunch of
numbers...but so what. I get a pager id number and then a phone number. The
software times out after 5 minutes but again...so what? Am I missing something
here??? I can look at this stuff for only so long. Am I supposed to receive
ASCII text? Should i find another channel to monitor?

        I didn't bother using the lower half of the circuit connected to pins
20,2 and 4. I gathered these were just to fool the comm port into thinking
it has a connection. to my computer I only used pins 5 and 7 from the origional
schmatic but I also parallelled  pin 3 to pin 5 just in case something else
happened to come across at a different baud rate. I figured I could use my
terminal emulator to view that stuff.

        If I am way off base with my use of this pogsag stuff will somebody
please give me a swat on the side of the head and try to clue me in!

                                        Thanks
                                         Barry
                                    [e-mail]
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (David B Baker)
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Subject: Re: Here's the newest DTMF file decoder -- dtmf_d2.zip - dtmf_d2.zip (1/2)
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Wanda M Desmond ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Well pardon me all to hell for missing your ORIGINAL post. I don't mind
: a bit of criticism, but you don't have to be a total ASSHOLE about it.

: I was replying to a post from a person (you) who seemed to be implying
: he should get a full-featured shareware program for free.

Calling him a bozo because YOU were too lazy to read the original post?
Instead of apologizing for an unprovoked/unwarranted insult, you
 insult him again?
" ...get your head out of your damned ass and
   start thinking.  Sheesh"
Yeah, that quote sums it up nicely.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Dallal)
Subject: Re: Mod for Realistic Pro-43
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I just posted the PRO-43 Modifications FAQ.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gene Kelley )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: pro 38
Date: 2 Oct 1995 23:55:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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In <44ckv7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Herb Boughner) writes:
>
>I have a Pro 38 and when I got it there were 800.000 freq. in it,
>I have lost these freq. and I would like to put them back could
>someone please tell me how. I think this scanner has been modified to
>use 800.000 freq.
>Cheers

The scanner had probably been without power and had "test frequencies"
loaded.  I know of no modification that will allow the 800MHz band to
be received in the PRO-38.

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:19 1995
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Subject: Mystery cordless phone frequency
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From: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 95 00:15:59 PST
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VU>>> Shocking Pink            09     902.340         926.340
VU>>> Chartreuse               10     902.370         926.370
VU>>> Neon Purple              11     902.400         926.400
VU>>> Black                    59     903.870         927.870
VU>>>
VU>>
VU>>
VU>>OH MY GOD!!  I STARTED THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VU>>
VU>>I KID YOU NOT.
VU>>
VU>>About three years ago I was active in the Fido and Rime conferences.
VU>To
VU>>be funny, I added this bogus "phone color" column.

VU>Anyone care to guess how many times this "color code" has been bounced
VU>around the world since then?

VU>-Drew in Charlotte-
VU> KF4DDM

damn... i lost count somewhere after 30+ times or more just in the rec.
and alt. radio newsgroups.  scary.....

greg
kd6ven


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:20 1995
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From: Brett Miller - N7OLQ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cell phones...
Date: 3 Oct 1995 00:17:07 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh) writes:

>  The same for every vendor?????  Are you reading this from some text
>  book, or have you worked with service providers throughout the United
>  States for the past 3 years like me?
>
>  Please check your sources before making omniscient statements like
>  these.  After having dealt with service providers in the field for 3
>  years (it's my job, not my hobby) I have NEVER seen the same frequency
>  assignments between service providers.  I don't know where you read
>  that, but it is absolutely wrong.


You guys are talking apples and oranges.

The frequency range is set by the FCC.  So the frequencies available to all carriers are the same (with the exception that there
will be one carrier assigned the wireline frequency range and the other will have the non-wireline frequency range).  However
each carrier can arrange the frequencies any way they want.  As an example, I knew all the frequencies used by the cell that
happens to cover the area I live in.  A few months later I noticed that something had changed.  I pulled out my cell phone which
displays channel numbers and figured out that all of the frequencies had been changed.   For some reason they decided to
switch things around - probably because a new cell was added someplace and the switch was necessary to make it all fit.



Brett Miller - N7OLQ                    [e-mail]
Intel Corp.                             CIS: 73370,3030
American Fork, UT



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:21 1995
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cleveland switching to DIGITAL trunking
Date: 3 Oct 1995 00:39:26 GMT
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[e-mail] (Brad Steinman, N8ZRP) wrote:

> A few months ago, I spoke with a former Motorola tech out of Toledo who was
> helping out on the new system.  He mentioned that the system was a 'mixture'
> of various digital technologies, not a fully implemented and tested system.
> According to him, the system was named Astro, due to the sound quality
> that made everyone sound like the dog from the Jetsons!

Sounds like he fed you a line.  I am not sure of how the name was
determined, but Astro's digital audio quality is actually very good.
And since it is digital, it can be encrypted on digitized without
affecting the audio quality.  Unlike Securenet which makes voices
a bit robotic.

Mixing the technology is what Astro does well.  It is a very flexible
system.  It allows for anolog and digital operation so a user can
be on a new digital system and go back to an analog system by just
just changing channels.

----
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh)
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Subject: Re: Cell phones...
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 00:43:13 GMT
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Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>When a system is retuned, they don't move frequencies around
>individually, rather they move channel sets (or channel groups -
>whatever the carrier calls them).

>----
>Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA

This should happen in the ideal world, but I have worked with TOO MANY
service providers that do NOT move entire channel sets (which is the
obvious thing to do with a fixed frequency reuse pattern to avoid
co-channel interference).  Rather, they DO move individual channels
and "borrow" from adjacent cells, etc.  And then they complain that
their system isn't working properly.  Sigh.

Dan



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (CHalla1610)
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Subject: Re: How to use priority?
Date: 3 Oct 1995 00:50:19 -0400
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Rafael:

     Priority allows you to set up a certain channel to be "number one".
Let me explain. For example,if there is a six-alarm structure fire in your
area and you want to monitor the main fire agency,you would program your
scanner to go to that channel once every two seconds. To do this,you press
the program button,enter the channel number (not the frequency) of the
channel that you want prioritized,press the priority button,then press
scan. Now that you have done this,your scanner will go to that channel
once every two or three seconds to check if anyone is talking. If it is
busy,it will immediatly go to that channel and stay there until it
discovers dead air. It will go back when it receives another transmission.
This comes in very handy,let me tell you!! Some scanners let you
prioritize more than one channel. I use a Realistic Pro-34. I can put just
one channel on priority with it.

     I hope that this will help you!! Good luck!!

     Chris Halladay ([e-mail])
     Castro Valley,Ca


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Orion781)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
Date: 3 Oct 1995 00:56:25 -0400
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I live on the eighth floor of a nine story apartment in manhattan.  I am
not allowed to have an outdoor antenna either, but I do.  I bought an
Antenna Specialists mobile scanner antenna w/magnet mount.  I have "stuck"
it to my air conditioning unit, and have connected the grounding wire of
the electrical socket to the outer shield of the rg58u cable.  This
assures me of a reasonable ground plane.  The antenna is practically
unnoticable from the street, no wind has ever dislodged it, it gives me
fantastic reception, and it has been there without complaint for three
years.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (ThierryLo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Mods for Uniden Bearcat BC80XLT
Date: 3 Oct 1995 01:39:20 -0400
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Help!!!
I'm looking for mods for the new Bearcat I just got this week end. None of
the web sites and ftp sites have mods for the BC80XLT.

Thanx in advance.

Thierry
PS. Please Email me.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Kim & Pete)
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Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 02:10:30 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mike ) wrote:


>I bought one recently.  It doesn't pick up the people across the street,
>but it will pick up ONE neighbor over a 1/4 mile away.  It doesn't seem to
>pick up my next door neighbor, either.   I'm totally confused.  Maybe some
>phones put out more signal than others.

        Could be. I have a cordless phone that won't go more than 75', but the
baby monitor we have will cover about 300' or so.
Pete.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cell phones...
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 02:11:50 GMT
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Brett Miller - N7OLQ wrote:

>The frequency range is set by the FCC.  So the frequencies available to all carriers are the same (with the exception that there
>will be one carrier assigned the wireline frequency range and the other will have the non-wireline frequency range).  However
>each carrier can arrange the frequencies any way they want.  As an example, I knew all the frequencies used by the cell that
>happens to cover the area I live in.  A few months later I noticed that something had changed.  I pulled out my cell phone which
>displays channel numbers and figured out that all of the frequencies had been changed.   For some reason they decided to
>switch things around - probably because a new cell was added someplace and the switch was necessary to make it all fit.
>


>Brett Miller - N7OLQ                   [e-mail]
>Intel Corp.                            CIS: 73370,3030
>American Fork, UT

This is my point completely, as evidenced in my other postings of this
thread.

Dan



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (eice95))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PAGER FREQUENCIES???  POCSAG DECODER
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:25:52 GMT
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OK,

So I've built my little "PD" POCSAG decoder, and it works swell (except
for being extremely volume-sensitive), but with the exception of freqs
I've collected from people I know with pagers, I haven't been able to find
a good list of paging freqs, by carrier, to try.  Scanner Master is pretty
much useless in that it only gives a range of freqs, but doesn't say who
belongs to each freq.

Does anyone have a list of freqs by pager company?

Thanks!
Eiceman


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (christopherc))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-2021
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:25:52 GMT
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      com!NewsWatcher!user
From: [e-mail] (ChristopherC)
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Hi Everyone!
    I have a Realistic Pro-2021. I bought it in 1989, and was wondering if
anyone knows of any modifications for this radio? I can't pick up any of
the 800 or 900 mHz frequencies. Also would anyone haver any ideas on a good
outside antenna for this radio? Any help would be appreciated.
                                                      Christopher
                                                      Austin, TX

--
These words are mine and nobody elses...


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (gene Kelley ))
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Florida frequencies
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:25:54 GMT
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      zdc!news3.noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews
From: [e-mail] (Gene Kelley )
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kevin
Agard) writes:
>
>Heading down to Tampa FL for a conference next week then one to the
Mouse
>House the following week.  Anyone got any interesting freqs for Public
>Safety and the attrations in those towns and the areaa around
Melbourne FL
>
>Thanks, if you can, please reply via direct mail.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++
>Kevin M. Agard, BS, EMT-P
Carlstadt, NJ
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++
>Director                              | Sysop
>Emergency Medical Training Associates | National Association of EMTs
BBS
>[e-mail]                | 1-800-64-NAEMT
1-601-924-6898
>[e-mail]                       | Fido: 1:3632/80  Saf:
144:5300/1
>======================================================================
=====
Tampa Police Department
453.55 453.7 453.8 453.85 453.75 453.875 453.325 453.5

Tampa Fire Department
154.430 154.22 153.83 463.15

Hillsborough County Sheriff
155.01 155.13 154.95 460.35 155.37

Hillsborough County Fire
154.13 154.175 154.25 153.92

Hillsborough County EMS
155.22 155.325

Florida Highway Patrol
154.665 Pinellas Park  154.68 Tampa  154.92 Planes

Temple Terrace
154.83 Police  154.385 Fire

MacDill AFB
173.5875 Fire

Game and Fish Commission
160.425

Marine Patrol
45.4

University of South Florida Police
158.730

Tampa International Airport Police
453.400

Enjoy!
GK
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (gene Kelley ))
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Subject: Re: Florida frequencies
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Kevin
Agard) writes:
>
>Heading down to Tampa FL for a conference next week then one to the
Mouse
>House the following week.  Anyone got any interesting freqs for Public
>Safety and the attrations in those towns and the areaa around
Melbourne FL
>
>Thanks, if you can, please reply via direct mail.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++
>Kevin M. Agard, BS, EMT-P
Carlstadt, NJ
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++
>Director                              | Sysop
>Emergency Medical Training Associates | National Association of EMTs
BBS
>[e-mail]                | 1-800-64-NAEMT
1-601-924-6898
>[e-mail]                       | Fido: 1:3632/80  Saf:
144:5300/1
>======================================================================
=====
Tampa Police Department
453.55 453.7 453.8 453.85 453.75 453.875 453.325 453.5

Tampa Fire Department
154.430 154.22 153.83 463.15

Hillsborough County Sheriff
155.01 155.13 154.95 460.35 155.37

Hillsborough County Fire
154.13 154.175 154.25 153.92

Hillsborough County EMS
155.22 155.325

Florida Highway Patrol
154.665 Pinellas Park  154.68 Tampa  154.92 Planes

Temple Terrace
154.83 Police  154.385 Fire

MacDill AFB
173.5875 Fire

Game and Fish Commission
160.425

Marine Patrol
45.4

University of South Florida Police
158.730

Tampa International Airport Police
453.400

Enjoy!
GK
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (herb Boughner))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: pro 38
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:25:54 GMT
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I have a Pro 38 and when I got it there were 800.000 freq. in it,
I have lost these freq. and I would like to put them back could
someone please tell me how. I think this scanner has been modified to
use 800.000 freq.
Cheers


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (peter Simpson))
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Subject: Re: Local PD Cruiser Antenna System
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Re: LoJack...

It was tested here in Mass. first.  Most of the towns have the antennas,
though here, they are 19"...for the 170 Mhz frequency used.

It works...our secretary had her car stolen from the parking lot at
work and they recovered it unharmed within a day using LoJack.  The
company even asked her to do a radio spot for them, which she did.

When you sell the car, you can remove the LoJack "brick" and reinstall
it in your next car, as one of my friends did.  They usually hide it in
a fender or trunk.  It's aroud $500-600 to get it installed, but there's
usually an insurance savings.


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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:34 1995
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From: brian.varine.<[e-mail] (Brian Varine <[e-mail]>)
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Subject: Re: Wave of the Future?
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On 2 Oct 1995, Bart VanAllen wrote:

> Well, it would seem so.  But don't forget about things like
> "undetectable" laser speed guns, "unbreakable" satalite codes,
> and such.  If its possible to encode, it is possible to decode.
> There will be a way.

How about those "Uncloneable" cell phones:-)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (david W. Carroll))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AR1000 reception problems
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:03 GMT
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      usenet
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I have an AR1000 that gets poor reception in the air band (ie: 118-130
MHz).  I live less than 2 miles from DFW airport and I am getting
reception as though I lived 30 miles away.  I am getting a lot of "trash"
and humm.  Every time I am listening to a transmission in this band it
sounds like the broadcaster is in a helicopter, not because they may
literally be in a helicopter, but because the noise is a constant pulsing
hum.  Squelch will not even get rid of it. Any ideas?  Can these
receivers go out of tolerance?

Thanks!

David W. Carroll



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (bill Watts))
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Subject: Re: S-METER FOR PRO-2006
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:03 GMT
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      net!newshub.cts.com!crash!filebank!bill.watts
From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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-=> Quoting Bill Funk to All <=-

 BF> On 24 Sep 95 11:46pm, CHUCK UFARLEY wrote to ALL:

     I wonder if this is the Charles Ulysses "Chuck U." Farley that I went to
     school with?  In the same class were Willy Maykit, Betty Dont, Peter
     Dragon, the two Bens (Down and Dover) and Theresa Green.

 CU>  @FROM   :[e-mail]


... Bill WATTS ex-Cape Codder  [e-mail] (Bill Watts)

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:37 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (john Bigbutei))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanners for sale
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:06 GMT
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      pipex!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!usenet
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    I have (2) scanners for sale. Both are cellular ready. Both were
purchased a little over a year ago. The first is a Pro-2006. It is in
new condition and was barely used. I have the box and manual for
it-(it's in the box). The second is a Bearcat 2500XLT handheld
receiver. It is also in new condition. I have the original box and
manual for it as well as a belt clip, harness, car adaptor, and an
extra antenna-this scanner is very fast. They are, as I said earlier,
both cellular ready and very modifiable. I will take $450 for both . I
will only sell them together. Prefer San Diego prospective buyers but
will respond to anyone in the U.S.. Please respond via e-mail.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:38 1995
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From: dewey.<[e-mail] (Dewey <[e-mail]>)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mod for Realistic Pro-43
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:09 GMT
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[e-mail] (Gil Kushilevitz) wrote:
>Can someone pls forward me a mod for Realistic Pro-43 Scanner ?



Me too please!
Dewey
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (gunslinger))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RE: RADAR DETCTORS v SCANNERS v CB
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:10 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>
>On 27 Sep 95 02:16am, CSEEBER wrote to ALL:
>
> C>  @FROM   :[e-mail]                                           N
> C> I am planning a X-country trip in a couple of weeks,
and have recently
> C> discover ed that in some states it is
> C> illegal to use scanners and / or radar detectors.  I've
been calling the
> C> travel agencies of the states I'll be
> C> travelling through, but they don't seem to know
anything about these
> C> laws.  Cou ld anyone tell me where
> C> these devices are illegal.  I don't want my equipmen
confiscated.  Thank
> C> you.

Bill Funk is absolutely correct!!! I am a professional truck
driver and, tho most people don't know it, radar detectors
have been illegal in commercial trucks for some time now.
[ In N.C. the fine starts @ $1000/ first offense, I've been
told]

In all honesty, the major function of a radar detector any
more is to tell you when to pull over; Unlesss you're in a
fair amount of traffic, and someone ahead of you gets
*shot*, you CANNOT react fast enough to slow down! [<.1
sec capture time for radar]. A really good, sensitive
detector will help a lot here. Personally, I've used a
Passport [one of the original ones] for several years and
had great luck. Once in Texas, it started beeping
occasionally. I drove for nearly 12 (yes, TWELVE) miles
before I met a Texas trooper coming _toward_ me. BTW,
radar detectors are illegal only in Virginia, the D of C, and
everywhere in Canada. [Don't know about other countries].

Beartracker was a good *concept* but has proven
impractical. With a three-mile range, it will pick up a LEO
_way_ off on a side road somewhere. And of course, like
BF says, they only pick up IF something is being
transmitted. So unless you just want to wear out your
brakes prematurely, I wouldn't recommend one. [ Sorry,
Uniden!]

A conventional scanner is, indeed, legal  for mobile use in
places and not in others, if it is capable of receiving police
frequencies. A bit of advice here: I used a scanner for over
2 years in my truck, back when I had a *fast* truck, and
there was ONE occasion when it MIGHT have kept me from
getting a ticket. But they are fun to listen to, especially on a
long, boring trip. And the chances of you getting *caught*
using one are slim to none if you don't advertise the fact
that you have it. A glass-mount antenna that looks like a
cellular antenna works well for inconspicuity.

A CB radio, will, indeed, be your best bet, aside from the
fact that you can also find out about road conditions, traffic
jams and ways around them, accidents, lane closures, and
all sorts of necessary travelers' info. You can also get help
sent if you're broke down, or need assistance in any way.
Note: many truckers won't stop and give you a lift because
they'll lose their job for *unauthorized passengers*, but
most _will_ make a phone call for you or send a state
patrol car to help you.

Anyway, that's MY advice, based on about thirteen years
of trucking experience. Good Luck on your trip; drive
safely[esp. around *big trucks*]; and most of all, ENJOY
THE RIDE!
--
P. Thompson                             "Watch, Read, Listen,
Learn....
Sui Juris                                    The TRUTH Shall Set You
Free!



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:41 1995
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From: <unknown>.(marc.fruth)@shiptoshore.com (<unknown> (marc Fruth))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-2006 and Computer Interface?
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:11 GMT
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Hello!

Has anyone ever heard of a "homebrew" scanner/computer interface?  I know
of all the commercial (translate purchased) systems on the market, but
I would really like to build it myself.  I think I have a good grasp
on the design, but if someone else has done it already, it would save
me alot of time in R&D.

Thanks!     ......and here's my E-Mail address in case you want
to respond that way:

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Small 150MHz receiver? Motorola pager?
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:11 GMT
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You may want to look for a Motorola "Minitor" pager. It has been out long
enough that many Fire
Departments, Law Enforcement Depts., etc. are upgrading to newer type units.

Most Minitors have a switch on the top to alow the monitoring of
over-the-air traffic. There is no external
squelch control, but in most instances it is not really necessary.

Another pager would be the "Senator" series from Sonar Radio. Good unit
with a monitor mode.

Steve
[e-mail]

http://www.winternet.com/~genave



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (gunslinger))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A friend heard RS selling a Radar Gun?
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:14 GMT
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In article <44fbc0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>>Fun for clocking folks along the parkway around here while I'm
waiting for
>>my wife's bus to arrive.  Beats the boredom...
>>
>I would think the REAL fun would be tripping everyone's radar
detector's -
>does it?

Seems to me that some genius out there could figure a way to
cause a good radar detector to initiate the radar gun. That way, the
cop's radar would be TOTALLY confused while trying to get a lock
on your vehicle. But it would likely be illegal. BTW, have you
looked closely at any Greyhound busses? They have a
low-powered radar mounted on the rear for some reason. It will set
off radar detectors quite handily.

--
P. Thompson                             "Watch, Read, Listen, Learn....
Sui Juris                                    The TRUTH Shall Set You Free!



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (lyn R. Kennedy))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Small 150MHz receiver? Motorola pager?
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:16 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Eugene Kang <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I'm looking for a small receiver. I need to monitor one frequency around
>154MHz. I've heard of old motorola pagers being used as receivers...can
>anyone help me?

If you have the money, Motorola made receivers from several of their pagers.
I had one but surely that model is out of production. Check with your
local rep. Otherwise, it will be a difficult modification for you to
re-build an old pager to include the squelch.

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:45 1995
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From: curtis.wheeler.<[e-mail] (Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cell phones...
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:17 GMT
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

> This is wrong. The frequency assignments are made on a specific plan, and
> are permanent. Nor are the plans propriatory - but are the same for every
> vendor.

Not quite.  I don't have first hand knowledge of all carriers but I
know how some of them operate...

The frequency assignments are on a specific plan, normally grouped
in channel sets, but the specification is determined by the carrier
so they can differ from system to system.

When a system is retuned, they don't move frequencies around
individually, rather they move channel sets (or channel groups -
whatever the carrier calls them).

----
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (brian J. Rueger))
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Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
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[e-mail] wrote:

>[e-mail] (SBacker684) wrote:
>
>>Mobile scanners are not legal in D.C., Florida, Indiana, Kentucky,
>>Michigan, Minnesota and New York. Send any changes that you know about to:
>>
>>[e-mail]
>
>>This is where I got this information.
>
>>[e-mail]
>
>
>Radar detectors are illegal in Virginia

Yep, and the state police have radar detector detectors.  So there is a
pretty good chance chance that you will get caught.

Cheers

Brian
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (engine 270))
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Subject: Re: Small 150MHz receiver? Motorola pager?
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:20 GMT
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The Motorola Minitor series receives are not pagers but single channel UHF
or VHF receivers and are crystal controlled and tuned to a specific
frequency. The operate on two nicad batteries and are no larger than a
pack of cigarettes. You can get a "drop-in" battery charger or if
available a "drop-in" amplified charger. Either charger will charge up a
spare set of batteries.

You might try:

G&G communications
9274 Glenwood Drive
LeRoy, NY 14482
Phone [phone]

or

McManus Communications
400 North 5th Street
Blytheville, AR  72315
501-763-6250

A good operating unit with the crystal, reed and batteries may run about
$150.00 plus charger.

Joe


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:48 1995
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From: ron.ling.<[e-mail] (Ron Ling <[e-mail]>)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Base Cell Ant & Cable
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:21 GMT
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Hello...

Looking for suggestions on what to use on my Pro-2006 as a base
antenna for the cell band.

I'm also looking for suggestions on what kind of cable to use.
I hear that belden9913 is the best.

Does anyone know if this cable can be purchased in Canada?

Thanks in advance....

Ron



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (mike Fink))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Ripoff Warning,CPU Consultants!
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:22 GMT
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There is a company thats been advertising in various scanner mags
offering frequency lists,BEWARE ITS A SCAM.

CPU Computer Consultants
301 Union Ave,#376
Altoon,Pa


You've been warned.

Mike


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:50 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brett Miller - N7olq)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cell phones...
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:23 GMT
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>   Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]> writes:
>  Not quite.  I don't have first hand knowledge of all carriers but I
>  know how some of them operate...
>  The frequency assignments are on a specific plan, normally grouped
>  in channel sets, but the specification is determined by the carrier
>  so they can differ from system to system.
>  When a system is retuned, they don't move frequencies around
>  individually, rather they move channel sets (or channel groups -
>  whatever the carrier calls them).
>>>>


Another way to say this is that there is a pool of frequencies
used by all carriers.  Carriers can assign these frequencies
into any groups they want and can also choose not to use
 them all, but they can not use frequencies outside the range
specified by the FCC.




Brett Miller - N7OLQ   [e-mail]
Intel Corp.    CIS: 73370,3030
American Fork, UT



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brett Miller - N7olq)
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Subject: Re: Cell phones...
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:24 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh) writes:

>  The same for every vendor?????  Are you reading this from some text
>  book, or have you worked with service providers throughout the United
>  States for the past 3 years like me?
>
>  Please check your sources before making omniscient statements like
>  these.  After having dealt with service providers in the field for 3
>  years (it's my job, not my hobby) I have NEVER seen the same frequency
>  assignments between service providers.  I don't know where you read
>  that, but it is absolutely wrong.


You guys are talking apples and oranges.

The frequency range is set by the FCC.  So the frequencies available to all
carriers are the same (with the exception that there
will be one carrier assigned the wireline frequency range and the other
will have the non-wireline frequency range).  However
each carrier can arrange the frequencies any way they want.  As an example,
I knew all the frequencies used by the cell that
happens to cover the area I live in.  A few months later I noticed that
something had changed.  I pulled out my cell phone which
displays channel numbers and figured out that all of the frequencies had
been changed.   For some reason they decided to
switch things around - probably because a new cell was added someplace and
the switch was necessary to make it all fit.



Brett Miller - N7OLQ   [e-mail]
Intel Corp.    CIS: 73370,3030
American Fork, UT



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (dan A. Balogh))
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Subject: Re: Cell phones...
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Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>When a system is retuned, they don't move frequencies around
>individually, rather they move channel sets (or channel groups -
>whatever the carrier calls them).

>----
>Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA

This should happen in the ideal world, but I have worked with TOO MANY
service providers that do NOT move entire channel sets (which is the
obvious thing to do with a fixed frequency reuse pattern to avoid
co-channel interference).  Rather, they DO move individual channels
and "borrow" from adjacent cells, etc.  And then they complain that
their system isn't working properly.  Sigh.

Dan



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:54 1995
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From: todd.rosenthal.<[e-mail] (Todd Rosenthal <[e-mail]>)
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Subject: SouthWest Airlines, Indianapolis and O'Hare Airports
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I am flying this weekend on Southwest Airlines. Does anyone have the
frequencies for their ground crew, etc?? Also anyone have frequencies for
Indianapolis or OHare Airports???


     -Todd Rosenthal



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:55 1995
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I am flying this weekend on Southwest Airlines. Does anyone have the
frequencies for their ground crew, etc?? Also anyone have frequencies for
Indianapolis or OHare Airports???


     -Todd Rosenthal



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (eugene Kang))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Motorola Minitor - where to get?
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:30 GMT
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Does anyone have a Motorola Minitor pager for sale?
Is there any mail-order store that sells it? How do I tune it?
Exactly how large is it?


thanks



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:56 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Kenwood TK-630 programming
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:54 GMT
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If anyone can recommend a better newsgroup, feel free...

I've decomposed most of the format of the Kenwood TK-630/730/830
programmer's
file format, but would like to know if Kenwood publishes the complete format
or if there's a better source. I've figured out a lot of it, but not the
whole thing. Any leads?

..de Rob WM8S
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Rob Bailey, WM8S ([e-mail])                   Kanawha / Charleston
Bailey Computer Systems              Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:57 1995
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From: curtis.wheeler.<[e-mail] (Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RE: IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO L
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (BILL FUNK) wrote:
>
>
> On 23 Sep 95 12:48am, DAN A  BALOGH wrote to ALL:

>  DA> Furthermore, the last time I checked, I don't think it was a Federal
>  DA> Crime to make an illegal left turn, my friend.
>
>  DA> Cheers again!
>
>  DA> Dan
>
>  Maybe he was on a Military Reservation. This would make it a federal
>  offense.

Even on a military base, you'd still just get a ticket.

----
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (rafael Sa))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2035 Mods Wanted!
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:55 GMT
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      com.br
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  Hi...

>Does anyone know if the Pro 2035 Scanner can be cell modified?
>If not anyone got anything to trade?

  The only way to "unblock" the cellular frequencies in the PRO-2035 is
to change the Logic Board (the small board attached to the display). If you
want info on this, send a message to [e-mail]

--
[]s+
Rafael Sa
Internet: [e-mail]
Knowledge BBS - [phone] - 24h - 28k8 - Brazil



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:06:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (james Lepphaille))
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Subject: *** FS - 2006 and Opto In
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* In a message originally to [e-mail]

To: [e-mail]
Subject: *** FS - 2006 and Opto In

S>PRO 2006 scanner. No mods have been done to this rig. It is a workhorse. It
i
S>in good condition, and I have the manual and a
S>walk in warranty which is still in effect.  I traded some other equipment
for
S>this a few months back, and will sell it for $275.00.

If all else fails send it $250 COD to:

James Lepphaille
Box 338
Forestville, CA 95436

thanks and good luck

jim

 * OLX 1.52 * james.lepphaille@1:2002/150  -  Forestville, CA ,USA


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:00 1995
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Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
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I live on the eighth floor of a nine story apartment in manhattan.  I am
not allowed to have an outdoor antenna either, but I do.  I bought an
Antenna Specialists mobile scanner antenna w/magnet mount.  I have "stuck"
it to my air conditioning unit, and have connected the grounding wire of
the electrical socket to the outer shield of the rg58u cable.  This
assures me of a reasonable ground plane.  The antenna is practically
unnoticable from the street, no wind has ever dislodged it, it gives me
fantastic reception, and it has been there without complaint for three
years.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:01 1995
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Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
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I live on the eighth floor of a nine story apartment in manhattan.  I am
not allowed to have an outdoor antenna either, but I do.  I bought an
Antenna Specialists mobile scanner antenna w/magnet mount.  I have "stuck"
it to my air conditioning unit, and have connected the grounding wire of
the electrical socket to the outer shield of the rg58u cable.  This
assures me of a reasonable ground plane.  The antenna is practically
unnoticable from the street, no wind has ever dislodged it, it gives me
fantastic reception, and it has been there without complaint for three
years.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (bill Nelson))
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Subject: Re: Cell phones...
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:27:01 GMT
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Dan A. Balogh ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >This is wrong. The frequency assignments are made on a specific plan, and
: >are permanent. Nor are the plans propriatory - but are the same for every
: >vendor.

: The same for every vendor?????  Are you reading this from some text
: book, or have you worked with service providers throughout the United
: States for the past 3 years like me?

I should have been more clear. There are two classes of provider, and
each class has a set of frequencies that they are allocated. All vendors
of a particular class will have the same frequency set.

Now, has that changed in the last few years?

: Please check your sources before making omniscient statements like
: these.  After having dealt with service providers in the field for 3
: years (it's my job, not my hobby) I have NEVER seen the same frequency
: assignments between service providers.  I don't know where you read
: that, but it is absolutely wrong.

See above. I hope I clarified my comment.

Bill


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (bill Nelson))
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Subject: Re: Cell phones...
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:27:02 GMT
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Dan A. Balogh ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

: >This is wrong. The frequency assignments are made on a specific plan, and
: >are permanent. Nor are the plans propriatory - but are the same for every
: >vendor.

: >Bill

: Negative.  I'm currently working with a service provider that just
: re-tuned their system after adding a few cells -- they AIN'T
: permanent.

Hm. I could see this happening for a sparcely populated area, but do not
see it occuring for a dense area - where there is no room for additional
cells. In other words, once the area is completely populated, there would
not be any reason to change the assignments - as they are designed to
minimise interference between cells.

Could be that I am wrong, but that would be counter to what I have read in
my references.

Being that you actually work in the field, where my interests are
theoretical,
I will have to bow to your immediate knowledge.

Bill


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (thierrylo))
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Subject: Mods for Uniden Bearcat BC80XLT
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Help!!!
I'm looking for mods for the new Bearcat I just got this week end. None of
the web sites and ftp sites have mods for the BC80XLT.

Thanx in advance.

Thierry
PS. Please Email me.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (thomas W. Demers))
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Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:27:04 GMT
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Damn, I've got a baby monitor down the road that comes in crystal
clear and we're talking at LEAST 3/4 of a mile. Of course...I
have a real nice multi-band scanner antenna high on the roof with
some pretty hefty shielded coax which probably helps.

-Tom
--
Life's to short to worry...  :)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:06 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (bill Rogers))
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Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:27:07 GMT
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I live in Maryland and occasionally drive into DC. My mobile ham rig can
scan through some 40 channels, some of which are programmed with police
and other frequencies.

Is that a violation? Is my ham ticket any protection?


Bill



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (jay Runge))
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Subject: AOR 1000 mod ??
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I have an AOR 1000 XLT.  I want to add a discriminator output jack to
improve the output signal for a digital transmission I am feeding to my
computer.

1) Has anybody made this mod for the AOR1000?  I have seen this mod for
other scanners, not mine.

2) Where can I get a schematic or service manual for this thing?  Cost?

Thanks, email with any info.

Jay
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
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Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:27:08 GMT
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[e-mail] (SBacker684) wrote:

>Mobile scanners are not legal in D.C., Florida, Indiana, Kentucky,
>Michigan, Minnesota and New York. Send any changes that you know about to:
>
>[e-mail]

>This is where I got this information.

>[e-mail]


Radar detectors are illegal in Virginia



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:09 1995
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From: curtis.wheeler.<[e-mail] (Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:27:08 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In article
<[e-mail]>,
>    Craig Todd Gafah <[e-mail]> wrote:
> }How long do you think it will be before the whole cellular network goes
> }digital?  2 years, 3 years, 5 years?
> }
> }
> Not any time soon here on the west coast.  Someone screwed up and the
digital
> concept is no longer being pushed or sold out here.  Time splicing sucks
and
> it doesn't work.

Cellular One is still pushing TDMA digital very hard in northern
California.  There latest deal gives you unlimited weekend calls
with no airtime charges.  It seems to be drawing in quite a few
customers.  They are TDMA.

> Reducing the wave width and adding more channels to about 15 fold looks
like
> the way.  They're experimenting with it in Seattle now on two freq's.
Only
> mod needed for the phone is more channels and a final amp for the audio.

"Time Splicing"?  Are you talking about TDMA, which one might call
time slicing?  It isn't great but it does work.  It's use is limited.

I am not sure what you mean by "reducing the wave width".  Going to
NAMPS wouldn't give you a 15 fold increase in capacity.  I beleive
15 times the capacity is what is anticipated for CDMA.  But that's a
whole lot different than just narrowing the bandwidth of the channels.
CDMA is akin to spread spectrum technology.

GTE Mobilnet is supposed to be rolling out CDMA next year sometime in
northern California.

----
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:10 1995
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Subject: Have NASCAR Freqs?
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I'm headed to a Winston Cup race and was wondering if anyone has this year's
frequency list.  Thanks.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:11 1995
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Subject: Re: FOR SALE: UNIDEN/BEARCAT BC200 SCANNER (CELLULAR UNBLOCKED)
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just bought one for 97.00 in a pawn shop


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:11 1995
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From: matt.hurst.<[e-mail] (Matt Hurst <[e-mail]>)
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Subject: NEC 7A Phones
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:27:14 GMT
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Help!!

Does anyone have the 15way pin-out connections and code to enter to turn
the NEC 7A car phone into a scanner??

If you can help, it would be much appreciated.

Mail: [e-mail]

Thanks!!

Matt



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (bill Funk))
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Subject: RE: PAGER PROTOCOL - POCS
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On 29 Sep 95 05:41am, SHATTER wrote to ALL:

 S>  @FROM   :[e-mail]
 S> I hooked my assembly up and I got nothing from the program.  What is the
 S> best may to figure out if the op-amp is getting the ~12v +/- that it
 S> needs to be working properly?  Also is there anything else I should be
 S> checking?  I have access to an o-scope so I can input a wave and see if
 S> it gets amplified.
 S> Any help on getting this darn thing figured out would be greatly
 S> appreciated!!

 PO's documentation is a little sparse. The design of the cable hardware is
 such that you must get the volume setting just right, or it won't work.
 To start, have the volume all the way down. In very small increments, raise
 the volume untill you start to get a response from the program (it helps
 here to have a way to hear the data stream. Maybe a second scanner, or a "Y"
 connector, with one end going to the serial port, the other going to a
 speaker).
 As you get a response, then adjust the volume to get the least number of
 errors.
 A very light touch on the volume control is necessary.
 Hope this helps.

Bill Funk
 Internet: [e-mail]
    [e-mail]

... A lawyer stepped in manure and thought he was melting.
 * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12853


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:14 1995
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Subject: RE: MYSTERY CORDLESS PHON
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On 29 Sep 95 05:39pm, CURTIS WHEELER wrote to ALL:

 CW> After you call me a "holier than thou" (you obviously don't know me)
 CW> you use words like "ethically" and "morally"?  Ethics and morals
 CW> aside - cordless phone users have a _reasonable_ expectation of
 CW> privacy, BY LAW.  This is a fact you can't deny - you might not like
 CW> it, but it is a fact.

 Yeah, right. And if congresscritters pass a law saying by truck is white,
 when it *looks* blue, what color is it, *really*? It's blue.
 If those same congresscritters say a radiophone user has a reasonably
 expectation of privacy, do they *really*? No. Just in law.
 Just as my truck would still be blue, those radiophone users have no real
 expectations of privacy.
 Law, yes. Bad law. Any law which attempts to change physics is a bad law.

Bill Funk
 Internet: [e-mail]
    [e-mail]

... DOS has trashed all your files. Have a nice day.
 * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12853


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (paul Yee))
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Subject: Re: Cordless Phone Frequencies
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Do cordless phone frequencies differ for different parts of the world? I'm
in New Zealand and I have a Panasonic cordless phone/answering machine and
I pick it up on 40.375 which isn't in any of the frequency lists I've seen
posted. I've programmed in the frequency lists I have seen posted and I
have yet to pick up anything on them (been trying for a couple of days) at
home or while driving around.

Thanks,
Paul


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail] (gene Kelley ))
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Subject: Re: pro 38
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In <44ckv7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Herb Boughner) writes:
>
>I have a Pro 38 and when I got it there were 800.000 freq. in it,
>I have lost these freq. and I would like to put them back could
>someone please tell me how. I think this scanner has been modified to
>use 800.000 freq.
>Cheers

The scanner had probably been without power and had "test frequencies"
loaded.  I know of no modification that will allow the 800MHz band to
be received in the PRO-38.

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Velez)
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[e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh) wrote:

>[e-mail] wrote:

>>Reducing the wave width and adding more channels to about 15 fold looks like
>>the way.  They're experimenting with it in Seattle now on two freq's.  Only
>>mod needed for the phone is more channels and a final amp for the audio.

>This sounds intriguing because I am a systems engineer in the cellular
>industry and never heard of this.  What exactly do you mean by
>"reducing the wave width"?  Do you mean reducing the band-width?  Is
>this Narrowband AMPS (NAMPS)?  If that's what you mean I can only
>believe that the phone would change COMPLETELY since North American
>phones are currently built to the IS-54 air interface standard which
>is all 30 kHz bandwidth.  NAMPS is 15 kHz bandwidth, which changes
>lots of specs.

>Please explain, in just a bit more detail.

>Dan Balogh
>[e-mail]

Though N-Amps was only being used in Japan...10khz bw
Yes IS-54B is the digital standard these days with CDMA and TDMA



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:18 1995
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Subject: Kenwood TK-630 programming
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If anyone can recommend a better newsgroup, feel free...

I've decomposed most of the format of the Kenwood TK-630/730/830 programmer's
file format, but would like to know if Kenwood publishes the complete format
or if there's a better source. I've figured out a lot of it, but not the
whole thing. Any leads?

..de Rob WM8S
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Bailey, WM8S ([e-mail])                   Kanawha / Charleston
Bailey Computer Systems              Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:18 1995
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Subject: Re: FOR SALE: UNIDEN/BEARCAT BC200 SCANNER (CELLULAR UNBLOCKED)
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just bought one for 97.00 in a pawn shop


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Dan A. Balogh ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >This is wrong. The frequency assignments are made on a specific plan, and
: >are permanent. Nor are the plans propriatory - but are the same for every
: >vendor.

: The same for every vendor?????  Are you reading this from some text
: book, or have you worked with service providers throughout the United
: States for the past 3 years like me?

I should have been more clear. There are two classes of provider, and
each class has a set of frequencies that they are allocated. All vendors
of a particular class will have the same frequency set.

Now, has that changed in the last few years?

: Please check your sources before making omniscient statements like
: these.  After having dealt with service providers in the field for 3
: years (it's my job, not my hobby) I have NEVER seen the same frequency
: assignments between service providers.  I don't know where you read
: that, but it is absolutely wrong.

See above. I hope I clarified my comment.

Bill


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Date: 3 Oct 1995 04:43:23 GMT
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Dan A. Balogh ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

: >This is wrong. The frequency assignments are made on a specific plan, and
: >are permanent. Nor are the plans propriatory - but are the same for every
: >vendor.

: >Bill

: Negative.  I'm currently working with a service provider that just
: re-tuned their system after adding a few cells -- they AIN'T
: permanent.

Hm. I could see this happening for a sparcely populated area, but do not
see it occuring for a dense area - where there is no room for additional
cells. In other words, once the area is completely populated, there would
not be any reason to change the assignments - as they are designed to
minimise interference between cells.

Could be that I am wrong, but that would be counter to what I have read in
my references.

Being that you actually work in the field, where my interests are theoretical,
I will have to bow to your immediate knowledge.

Bill


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas W. Demers)
Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 05:31:47 GMT
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Damn, I've got a baby monitor down the road that comes in crystal
clear and we're talking at LEAST 3/4 of a mile. Of course...I
have a real nice multi-band scanner antenna high on the roof with
some pretty hefty shielded coax which probably helps.

-Tom
--
Life's to short to worry...  :)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brad Steinman, N8ZRP)
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Subject: Re: GMRS radio - features/price...
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 05:40:41 GMT
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>The mod for the radio is not illegal but its use would be.  The radio
>is not type certified for that use.  Many people do it however.

>Allen


>My question is, has anyone every been caught for using a non type accepted
>radio in the GMRS band (or commercial). How could the FCC tell what type
>of radio you are using without sitting in the car with you?


Apparently you have not heard of TxID.  TxID does have the ability to
differentiate between not only which model but to individually pick out
models of the same type.  I saw this successfully work at the Dayton
Hamvention.  Granted, it was not perfect (what is), but it seemed to work
quite well in such a hostile RF environment!  The dealer/designer also
mentioned his best customer was the FCC...


Brad Steinman, N8ZRP
Internet:  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jay Runge)
Subject: AOR 1000 mod ??
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I have an AOR 1000 XLT.  I want to add a discriminator output jack to
improve the output signal for a digital transmission I am feeding to my
computer.

1) Has anybody made this mod for the AOR1000?  I have seen this mod for
other scanners, not mine.

2) Where can I get a schematic or service manual for this thing?  Cost?

Thanks, email with any info.

Jay
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Rogers)
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Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
Date: 3 Oct 1995 06:56:34 GMT
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I live in Maryland and occasionally drive into DC. My mobile ham rig can
scan through some 40 channels, some of which are programmed with police
and other frequencies.

Is that a violation? Is my ham ticket any protection?


Bill



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From: [e-mail] (Collier Chun)
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Subject: Re: A friend heard RS selling a Radar Gun?
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In article <44fbc0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>Fun for clocking folks along the parkway around here while I'm
>>waiting for
>>my wife's bus to arrive.  Beats the boredom...
>>
>I would think the REAL fun would be tripping everyone's radar
>detector's -
>does it?

No, it doesn't.  The Ramsey kit runs on 2.5 GHz, while police radar
is typically on 10.525, 24, and 36 GHz.  The Ramsey gun hasn't
set off any of my detectors.

The Ramsey gun is, IMHO, only accurate to several miles per hour, since
it drifts significantly as it warms up--in fact, on the GTEM cell's spectrum
analyzer here at work, I could watch as the pip slowly drifted as the unit
began to warm up.  If someone's doing 26 in a 25 mph zone, you'll be
hard-pressed to convince me that the reading's accurate.  But if the gun
registers 45 mph, you can be sure that they aren't doing 30 mph.

On a footnote, some party asked me if they could borrow it to crack
down on speeders on their parking lot--and I politely declined.  *Ahem!*








From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Frisbie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Optoelectronics distributers?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 3 Oct 95 08:42:20 PDT
Organization: Flying Disk Systems, Inc.
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Are Optoelectronics products available from distributers
or only direct from the manufacturer?   Are the prices
any different from catalog list?   Can anyone recommend
a good distributer?

--  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
--  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.
--  4759 Round Top Drive          [phone] (voice)
--  Los Angeles, CA 90065         [phone] (FAX)


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Paulo Teixeira,N3MGA)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 08:58:56 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Andy) wrote:

>Does anyone have any recommendations for me regarding antenna options in a
>top-floor apartment.  I'm not allowed any outdoor antennas.  What are my
>options to increase my receive range?  I'd consider something on the floor
>of the deck or something for a window shelf inside.
>
>Andy

Andy,I tried this with some degree of success and also has worked for 2
mtrs packet radio work.
Radio Shack sells a window suction cup mount,wich in my view is useless
for most car windows nowadays (curved) but it works like a charm stuck to
one of your apartment windows.I just put the thing there when needed and
either put on it the scanner's original antenna or,sometimes,Rat Shack's
telescopic antenna that comes with a straight BNC connector.This one
allows me to hear a little better some low band VHF activity.
The beauty is that you can take it on and off as mucha as you want,without
much effort.In a urban environment there is some much radio activity,you
wouldnt need much of a hi gain antenna or amplifier for you radio,wich
would overload anyway.



Take care

--
"Freedom of speech is the right to shout THEATRE! in a crowded fire"
                a yippie proverb

                         Paulo A Teixeira,N3MGA
                 Sysop of Gallery's BBS at 202-333-0407.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:28 1995
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From: Jonathan Clough <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: AR1000 reception problem
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 95 09:13:24 GMT
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In article <44pe71$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "David W. Carroll" writes:

> I have an AR1000 that gets poor reception in the air band (ie: 118-130
> MHz).  I live less than 2 miles from DFW airport and I am getting
> reception as though I lived 30 miles away.  I am getting a lot of "trash"
> and humm.  Every time I am listening to a transmission in this band it
> sounds like the broadcaster is in a helicopter, not because they may
> literally be in a helicopter, but because the noise is a constant pulsing
> hum.  Squelch will not even get rid of it. Any ideas?  Can these
> receivers go out of tolerance?

Morning David,

I aplogise if this"sounds" out of order but have you got the correct
mode sleceted ie. AM rather than WFM or NFM ?

Early AR1000's did have a tendancy to drift off frequency at times, this
was later corrected with a internal design change and eventually the
radio became the AR2000 here in Europe. The "new" model number never
made it to the USA due to certain reasons but as far as I am aware the
suffix's AR1000 - AR1000XL and AR1000XLT indicated later varients. If
you have AM selected and you still have the same problem then try tuning
maybe 5 - 12.5Khz off the true frequency and see if that helps - if it
does then perhaps you should have your '1000 re-aligned.


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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:30 1995
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From: "K. Nelson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: RE: UNIDEN BEARTRACKER BC
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 10:33:03 -0700
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On Wed, 27 Sep 1995, BILL FUNK wrote:

>=20
> On 25 Sep 95 06:45pm, MAX WATSON wrote to ALL:
>=20
>  MW> =FF@FROM   :[e-mail]                                           =
    N
>  MW> I'm in the market for a Beartracker, as I have way too many points o=
n my
>  MW> record and just the chance of avoiding a ticket is worth the price t=
o me
>  MW> (actually they're quite cheap.. $80 for the BCT2 and about $180 for =
the
>  MW> BCT7).
>=20
>  I know this isn't what you want to hear, but here goes...
>  Get a CB. Even a BearTracker only tells you if a LEO is *transmitting* i=
n
>  your area. It does nothing to let you know about the one who's just sitt=
ing
>  there without talking to anyone, waiting for *you*.
>  Also, the BT's do next to nothing for locals, or for departments without
>  extenders.
>  The CB, on the other hand, will warn you of LEOs sitting and waiting, or
>  moving near you.
>  Of course, in case you haven't figured it out yet, if you drove a little
>  less enthusiastcally the LEOs wouldn't notice you as much ;-).
>=20
> Bill Funk  =09
> =09Internet: [e-mail]
> =09=09  [e-mail]
>=20
> ... "Man has the one true religion.  Several of them!" -- Twain
>  * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12853
>=20
>=20
I purchased a BCT7 last week and returned it yesterday.  Needless to say=20
I was not impressed, besides the fact that I was ripped off (I paid=20
$237.99 with tax for it)..  It can not do a search that you ask it to do,=
=20
and the 100 channels of memory it does have are all split up to the=20
different pre-set selections.  Say 25 in private, where it will scan only=
=20
the freqs you program, 25 in police, where it will scan the 25 you=20
selected PLUS the police frequencies, etc.  Its just stupid because you=20
can't set it to scan different banks of frequencies you would like it=20
to.  It is missing other features like find and store, you can't just=20
enter the number of the frequency in, you have to hold the up arrow or=20
down arrow for a while until it gets there.  After having it for 3 days I=
=20
knew I wanted to return it.  And now I just ordered a better scanner,=20
although some may say its not (890XLT), for $5.00 more.

analog

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh)
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Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 11:50:46 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ed Velez) wrote:

>Though N-Amps was only being used in Japan...10khz bw
>Yes IS-54B is the digital standard these days with CDMA and TDMA

IS-54 is the standard for TDMA in North America (more precisely, it is
now called IS-136 and includes the Digital Control Channel).

IS-95 is the standard for CDMA.

And you're quite right, N-AMPS is 10-kHz not 15-kHz as I orginally
said.  The aim was to get 3 calls up on the same 30-kHz channel (like
TDMA).

Dan



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Vanerwegen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack Con Job?
Date: 3 Oct 1995 11:52:07 -0700
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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >Just curious how much longer this thread is going to continue.  It
: >seems to me that if everyone of your are so knowledgeable in what RS
: >sells, then you should be able to march right in, find what you need,
: >pay for it and march right out without speaking to a droid.

: This is what I always try to do, but it's simply not possible.  If you
: even glance at anything of value, the sales droid immediately pounces on
: you like flies on you-know-what!!  Even after you give the standard "just
: looking" response, the droid continues to hang around, give a sales pitch,
:  and offer (usually incorrect) advice.

: -Drew in Charlotte-
:  KF4DDM


When I worked at Radio Shed. I was extressly told Radio Shack is NOT a
self service store and whenever possible you great every customer
personally. I hated this, when even now, I am a customer I resent the
snooping of the droid. I worked for 26 years for the phone company many
as a central office supervisor one of these unfortunates said "that wire
won't work on a telephone. I pulled out my telco ID card and said I've
worked for them 20 years (at that time) would you care to retract that?"
He didn't.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (GAdams8594)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Modifications?
Date: 3 Oct 1995 12:28:09 -0400
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I have recently signed on to this list and I do have a question.

I have a Bearcat XLT120.  Is there a way that this scanner can be modified
so I can get freqs. in the 800 and 900 range.  What about in the 200 - 300
range also.

If there is such a way, could someone explain to me where to take it to be
done, or how to get the plans to do it myself.

Thanks!!

Guy Adams


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:34 1995
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From: thorburn@.xyplex.com (Gary Thorburn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: NOAA Weather Radio question
Date: 3 Oct 1995 13:09:01 GMT
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Two questions about NOAA weather radio...

- what power do these stations typically use?

- would someone post the complete list of 7 NOAA frequencies?

---
/****
*  Gary W. Thorburn  KD1TE
*  reply address:  [e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
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Subject: Re: Antenna length question.
Date: 3 Oct 1995 13:24:14 -0400
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Thanks for all the help w/dipole antenna

Works much better now that I cut it !

Thanks again




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Pergrim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Optoelectronics distributers?
Date: 3 Oct 1995 13:36:29 -0400
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PerCon Corp resells Optoelectronics products. Our prices are much below
retail prices. We also include a FREE Frequency Database CDROM with most
purchases. Call for prices ! Phone [phone] or fax [phone]

Chuck Pergrim
PerCon


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
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Subject: Scanner World's Address wanted
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Does anyone have Scanner World's Address/Phone/anything ???



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:37 1995
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From: Daan D Coster <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC200XLT Mods...
Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 14:47:00 -0400
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        ...could somebody point me in the right direction as to where to find
and mods for the BC200XLT (www sites, FAQs, etc)?  Thanks in advance.

- DAAN



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Orion781)
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Subject: Re: Looking for NASCAR freqeencies
Date: 3 Oct 1995 14:54:31 -0400
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the publication "Monitor America" has two pages of freqs for race car
teams and racetracks.  Many freqs are in the 460's.  Some are in the 851's
and 853's.
Nascar f-1 (primary) 151.635
           f-2                ?????
           f-3 (pacecar) 151.895
           f-4                ?????
           f-5                154.570
           f-6                154.600
           f-7                469.8125
           f-8 (scoring)   151.955


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (David Dean )
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack Con Job?
Date: 3 Oct 1995 14:57:49 GMT
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In <44hrbt$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (SBacker684)
writes:
>
>
>>I haven't seen anyone yet at RS know there ass from a hole
>>in the ground!!!!!!!!
>
>This would explain why they don't play golf!
>
>[e-mail]

Just curious how much longer this thread is going to continue.  It
seems to me that if everyone of your are so knowledgeable in what RS
sells, then you should be able to march right in, find what you need,
pay for it and march right out without speaking to a droid.

Just a thought though.  Maybe it's above most of your heads.

Thats also just a thought!

73's Dave


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From: [e-mail] (David Dean )
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Subject: Re: Motorola Minitor - where to get?
Date: 3 Oct 1995 15:03:19 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Eugene Kang)
writes:
>
>Does anyone have a Motorola Minitor pager for sale?
>Is there any mail-order store that sells it? How do I tune it?
>Exactly how large is it?
>
>
>thanks
>
Contact a motorola dealer listed in the phone book. They all can order
them. There are two types of minitors. The minitor and the minitor II.
I would go with the minitor II. I don't even know if the other one is
sold new anymore. No tuning required usually you just plug in a crystal
or two and off you go.

73's Dave N6RHL

[e-mail] or
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:40 1995
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Subject: noaa
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The weather Frew are

162.4000
162.4250
162.4500
162.4750
162.5000
162.5250
162.5500


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Engine 270)
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Subject: Re: Scanner World's Address wanted
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Scanner World, USA
10 New Scotland Avenue
Albany, NY  12208
518-436-9606


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew R. McGhee)
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Subject: Re: AR1000 reception problems
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:19:16 GMT
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In article <44pejh$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David W. Carroll) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (David W. Carroll)
>Subject: AR1000 reception problems
>Date: 2 Oct 1995 19:29:53 GMT

>I have an AR1000 that gets poor reception in the air band (ie: 118-130
>MHz).  I live less than 2 miles from DFW airport and I am getting
>reception as though I lived 30 miles away.  I am getting a lot of "trash"
>and humm.  Every time I am listening to a transmission in this band it
>sounds like the broadcaster is in a helicopter, not because they may
>literally be in a helicopter, but because the noise is a constant pulsing
>hum.  Squelch will not even get rid of it. Any ideas?  Can these
>receivers go out of tolerance?

>Thanks!

David,

Based upon the info you provided, here are some thoughts I have as to the
problem. I too have an AOR 1000. They are not very selective. I to have had
problems with the air band also. I believe alot of my problems are associated
with the AOR 1000's lack of selectivity. If I am within close proximity
(anything less than a million miles) of an AM broadcast station, the air band
on mine is useless. However the 1000 is far and away better than the 1500 was.
I had an AOR 1500 and found it to be useless as a radio reciever.

The other problem may be that you are to close to the airport. Does the
airport have a VORTAC, VOR or VOR/DME nearby. The pulsing noise and
interference may be from this equipment. Just a thought.

Drew R. McGhee
Altoona, PA






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From: [e-mail] (Drew R. McGhee)
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Subject: Re: NOAA Weather Radio question
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 1995 16:25:51 GMT
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In article <44rcld$[e-mail]> thorburn@.xyplex.com (Gary Thorburn) writes:
>From: thorburn@.xyplex.com (Gary Thorburn)
>Subject: NOAA Weather Radio question
>Date: 3 Oct 1995 13:09:01 GMT

>Two questions about NOAA weather radio...

>- what power do these stations typically use?

>- would someone post the complete list of 7 NOAA frequencies?

>---
>/****
>*  Gary W. Thorburn  KD1TE
>*  reply address:  [e-mail]


Gary,

In central Pennsylvania, they run around 50 to 100 watts. The frequencies are
as follows:  162.550, 162,400, 162.475, 162.425, 162.450, 162.500, 162.525.

Drew R. McGhee, KA3EJV
AEC Blair County, PA ARES SKYWARN








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Subject: Re: AR1000 reception problem
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>I aplogise if this"sounds" out of order but have you got the correct
>mode sleceted ie. AM rather than WFM or NFM ?

Yes, it is set for AM mode.  I checked with the US distributor of the
radio and they said that possibly the AM modulator is going out.

Dave!



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AR1000 reception problems
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 16:41:43 -0500
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I had an AOR1000; used it to monitor air bands all of the time with great
success. I live about 30 miles west of Boston's Logan airport, right along
one of the flight paths, so my situation is a lot different than the one
you're describing. Are you using the orginal duck antenna (which is a
piece of junk)? Try using RS's $10 whip and adjusting the length...

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Drew R. McGhee) wrote:

> In article <44pejh$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David W.
Carroll) writes:
> >From: [e-mail] (David W. Carroll)
> >Subject: AR1000 reception problems
> >Date: 2 Oct 1995 19:29:53 GMT
>
> >I have an AR1000 that gets poor reception in the air band (ie: 118-130
> >MHz).  I live less than 2 miles from DFW airport and I am getting
> >reception as though I lived 30 miles away.  I am getting a lot of "trash"
> >and humm.  Every time I am listening to a transmission in this band it
> >sounds like the broadcaster is in a helicopter, not because they may
> >literally be in a helicopter, but because the noise is a constant pulsing
> >hum.  Squelch will not even get rid of it. Any ideas?  Can these
> >receivers go out of tolerance?
>
> >Thanks!
>
> David,
>
> Based upon the info you provided, here are some thoughts I have as to the
> problem. I too have an AOR 1000. They are not very selective. I to have had
> problems with the air band also. I believe alot of my problems are associated
> with the AOR 1000's lack of selectivity. If I am within close proximity
> (anything less than a million miles) of an AM broadcast station, the air band
> on mine is useless. However the 1000 is far and away better than the
1500 was.
> I had an AOR 1500 and found it to be useless as a radio reciever.
>
> The other problem may be that you are to close to the airport. Does the
> airport have a VORTAC, VOR or VOR/DME nearby. The pulsing noise and
> interference may be from this equipment. Just a thought.
>
> Drew R. McGhee
> Altoona, PA

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]
_____________________________________________________________________Coming to a bookstore near you in November:
The Underground Guide to Computer Security, by Michael Alexander;
published by Addison-Wesley Publishing Company.

"He's lost enough data to fill a small black hole."
_____________________________________________________________________


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Palmer)
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Subject: WHS-150
Date: 3 Oct 1995 16:54:56 GMT
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I am looking for something comparable to the WHS-150 by RELM.  My brother
is a police officer in a small town and is looking for something
comparable at a lower price.  The WHS-150 can be found on page 62 of the
Scanner World, USA catalog.  Unfortunately that is the only page I have.
 TIA
--
Robert Palmer
http://www.conline.com:80/~rpalmer
"It is one thing to learn about the past; it is another to wallow in it."
Kenneth Auchincloss



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Varga)
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Subject: PRO-25 Cellular Restoral
Date: 3 Oct 1995 17:29:38 GMT
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Does anyone know if 800 Mhz restoral is possible to the PRO-25 100 channel
scanner.  Is there any WEB sites with mods informatin that I can check ?

Thanks,

Tony V.

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Varga)
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Subject: PRO-2004 Intermittent Receive
Date: 3 Oct 1995 17:32:22 GMT
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I have a PRO-2004 that looses sensitivity to the point that it is totally
deaf.  This happens over a period of time.  Every time I box it up and
send it to R/S, it somes back working with 'NO FAULT FOUND'.

Any suggestions and/or recommendations ie. cold solder problems on a
particular PCB assembly ?

Thanks,

Tony V.

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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (foxcat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Can I get RS PRO-26 upgrade from Europe or Canada?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 17:49:31 -0500
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If Europe and Canada sell Radio Shack Pro-26 unblocked. Are there any companies
that I can mail my USA model to and a small fee and swap/upgrade?

Any companies in Canada (preferrably) in this business?

Please e-mail any details!

Many thanks!

Take it easy!

+-----------------------------------------+
| Andy                                    |
| [e-mail]                |
| "what can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."
+-----------------------------------------+


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (foxcat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner frequency database(s)?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 18:09:52 -0500
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In article <44sbcr$[e-mail]>, Brett Miller - N7OLQ wrote:

>>   [e-mail] (Pergrim) writes:
>
>>  PerCon has a Frequency Database Manager that is soon to be released as
>>  Freeware. It will do what you need. We will upload it as soon as we are
>>  complete.
>
>>>>>
>
>Chuck,
>Does Percon have an FTP site or WWW site?

This sounds fantastic!!!!

Is it for Macs? Or PCs?

Take it easy,

+-----------------------------------------+
| Andy                                    |
| [e-mail]                |
| "what can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."
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From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:50 1995
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From: Piran Mohazzabi <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wanted Mods Info for BCT7, PRO23,25,51 (New Version)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 95 18:17:24 -0500
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A friend of mine wants info on how to Burn Prom for modifictions for
BCT7, Pro23, 25 and 51 (newer version), Please reply via my E-Mail
Address.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:51 1995
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From: Lyle Tanner <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: WHS-150
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I have owned a WHS-150 for about 10 months now.  For the price ($300) it is great!  I
converted the TNC to a BNC and re-mounted the programming switch to the bottom
(between the battery & radio).  It is now a field programmable unit.  Unfortunatly I
dropped a piece of solder on a ribbon cable inside and it is temp. out of service.  I
have no problems with TX on 144-170 (haven't tested any further than this).  I would
try "Falcon Direct" for a price.  They usually have the best price on this radio.


Lyle Tanner (KC7IPY)
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (ROBERT L BURNS)
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Subject: Re: SouthWest Airlines, Indianapolis and O'Hare Airports
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 18:36:00 GMT
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Todd Rosenthal <[e-mail]> wrote:

->I am flying this weekend on Southwest Airlines. Does anyone have the
->frequencies for their ground crew, etc?? Also anyone have frequencies for
->Indianapolis or OHare Airports???

Todd, you are a lucky guy.  I just happen to have my copy of Monitor
America handy.

Indianapolis Tower      120.900
Indianapolis Ground     121.900
Indianapolis ATIS       125.350
Indianapolis Clearance  128.650

O'Hare Tower            126.900 (north)  120.750 (south)
O'Hare Ground           121.750 (outbound)  121.900 (inbound)
O'Hare ATIS             135.400
O'Hare Clearance        121.600  119.250

Neither airport listing shows Southwest Airlines.  The Dallas-Fort
Worth listing shows Southwest using 460.675 and 464.375.

Bob...




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (foxcat)
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Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 18:42:25 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Paulo Teixeira,N3MGA) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(Andy) wrote:
>
>>Does anyone have any recommendations for me regarding antenna options in a
>>top-floor apartment.  I'm not allowed any outdoor antennas.  What are my
>>options to increase my receive range?  I'd consider something on the floor
>>of the deck or something for a window shelf inside.
>>
>>Andy
>
I bought a RS magnet mount mobile antenna (Part # 20-012). It serves three
purposes. I can use
it on either car I drive and when I'm not driving it sits in my window. I
get broad
coverage. Probably 500 square miles depending which room its in. It stands
36" high.

I also have the telescoping antenna (Part # 20-006), but on a hand held
scanner it becomes delicately topheavy.


Andy
[e-mail]

"what can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (BigMac214)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat 800 XLT Scanner for Sale
Date: 3 Oct 1995 18:43:48 -0400
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Factory new condition (used about 10 hrs) with original carton
and manual. FULL 800 Mhz COVERAGE.  $250.00.

e-mail to [e-mail]

Dave MacDonald (WB3JOY)
Elmer, NJ


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:54 1995
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From: [e-mail] (foxcat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Car Dashboard Mount for Hand Held scanners?
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 18:45:32 -0500
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Can someone tell me who sells a universal dashboard hand-held scanner
mount? Or glove box mount, even?

Take it easy,


Andy
[e-mail]

"what can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rafael Sa)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: A World-Wide VHF (??)
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 19:18:59 GMT
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  Just wondering.... Is that virtualy possible to make a World-Wide VHF
transmition?? A transmition that can be "hear" all over the planet, let's
say, in the 100-200 Mhz frequency ? Is that possible? If so, how power the
transmition station will have to be? And the antenna, how tall will have
to be?

  JUST curious... :)

--
[]s+
Rafael Sa
Internet: [e-mail]
Knowledge BBS - [phone] - 24h - 28k8 - Brazil



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:56 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Darkstar)
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Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
Date: 3 Oct 1995 20:11:27 GMT
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> >
> > Panasonic 900MHZ Cordless Frequencies:
> >
> > Color of Phone           CH       BASE          HANDSET
> > --------------           --     -------         -------
> > Blue                     01     902.100         926.100
> > Hot Pink                 02     902.130         926.130
> > Banana                   03     902.160         926.160
> > Cerise                   04     902.190         926.190
> > White                    05     902.220         926.220
> > Off White                06     902.250         926.250
> > Gray                     07     902.280         926.280
> > Fuschia                  08     902.310         926.310
> > Shocking Pink            09     902.340         926.340
> > Chartreuse               10     902.370         926.370
> > Neon Purple              11     902.400         926.400
> > Black                    59     903.870         927.870
> >


Can any of you long-time regulars tell me that this bogus "Color of Phone"
column has NEVER been challenged?

Surely this has been unmasked as a silly joke before now!

I mean, look at those colors.  Who else but me would even make them up!!!


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Derrick Kim)
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Subject: PC interfaceable Scanner
Date: 3 Oct 1995 21:15:24 GMT
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Hello all:

I'm looking for the least expensive scanner (new) with a RS-232
interface.  I would like to log and control the scanner with my PC
laptop.  So far, the new ones that I've seen costs at least around $500, if I wanted the interface
feature.

Your help will be greatly appreciated.

Derrick


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JTG007)
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Subject: S.E. Florida Freq.
Date: 3 Oct 1995 21:17:08 -0400
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  I just got a scanner and would like some freq. in the Dade and Broward
area.



     Thanks,


     James.










From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Tim & Darcie)
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Date: Tue, 03 Oct 95 21:50:19 GMT
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In Ontario, Canada the Haruteq book lists thousands of freqs as well as antenna suggestions and
commonly used 10 codes.  It's available at almost any bookstore or Radio Shack.


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:07:59 1995
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From: Brett Miller - N7OLQ
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>   [e-mail] (Pergrim) writes:

>  PerCon has a Frequency Database Manager that is soon to be released as
>  Freeware. It will do what you need. We will upload it as soon as we are
>  complete.

>>>>

Chuck,
Does Percon have an FTP site or WWW site?


Brett Miller - N7OLQ                    [e-mail]
Intel Corp.                             CIS: 73370,3030
American Fork, UT



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:01 1995
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From: [e-mail] (shatter)
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Well.... I still haven't gotten the thing to work... I checked the
voltages going into the op-amp.... they are all positive... I figured it
has something to do with the diodes.... like I had some installed
backwards or something...  Well I messed with the diodes and either get a
no voltage situation or a +8.5v situation... i am assuming that if the
side of the op-amp that needs -12v is getting +8.5v then this thing WILL
NOT WORK... also the -INPUT part of the op-amp is getting a positive
voltage... whats up?

The com port on the computer in the lab only puts out a positive
voltage.  Am I missing something major here with regards to electronics
or what??

Thanks

Chad



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:01 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Yee)
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Subject: Re: Cordless Phone Frequencies
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 23:27:52 +1300
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Do cordless phone frequencies differ for different parts of the world? I'm
in New Zealand and I have a Panasonic cordless phone/answering machine and
I pick it up on 40.375 which isn't in any of the frequency lists I've seen
posted. I've programmed in the frequency lists I have seen posted and I
have yet to pick up anything on them (been trying for a couple of days) at
home or while driving around.

Thanks,
Paul


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (George Munce)
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Subject: PRO 2032 FAQ request
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Does anyone have the FAQ or a document on mods and such on the Radio Shack
PRO 2032 scanner??????

Please E-mail [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (FD 347)
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Subject: Re: NYPD frequency on full duplex?
Date: 4 Oct 1995 00:29:29 -0400
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The NYPD's radio system is only half duplex. The dispatcher can talk and
receive at the same time, the portables can not. I believe the type of
system is called 2 channel simplex. There is a 3 MHZ difference between
the transmit & receive frequencies. The reason the dispatcher can talk in
full duplex and the portables can not is because the dispatcher has a
seperate transmitter and receiver, a handy-talkie can only do one or the
other.

The FDNY radio system is set up in a similar way. The only exception is
that we control the receivers output into the transmitter manually. This
allows for one way pseudo-private conversation when the "mixer" is off.

Frank Raffa
Dispatcher FDNY


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] (131H30000-STEPHEN CHU(MT4084)NOBIN)
Subject: NYPD frequency on full duplex?
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I was listening to one of many NYPD freq when I noticed the following:
when the dispatcher finish talking, the mobil/ht starts to talk while
I can still hear the dispatcher speaks - as if I am standing in the
same room as the dispatcher. The modulation only drop when both of
them stop talking and the dispatcher quite down.

Compare to most of other freq I've listened on - all simplex
conversations, does anyone know anything special about these system?

- Steve
  AT&T
  Middletown, NJ

  Internet: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:06 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RE: POCSAG DECODER FUN
Date: 4 Oct 1995 01:14:36 GMT
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>.... Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATM?

Same reason that they give cash payments to alcoholics and drug addicts
and call it "Social Security Disability"...because the ridiculous
government-mandated ADA laws require that they do so!

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:06 1995
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From: Tim Goelzhauser <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Evansville IN freqs
Date: 4 Oct 1995 02:38:55 GMT
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Anyone have a good list of freqs for Evansville IN.
Thnx


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Benoit)
Subject: Help me! What should I buy?
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Hi! I'm interested in getting a scanner for 120-190mhz & 400-500mhz (or
whatever the ranges are) and dunno which one to get...I live in Canada and
don't want to order from the states (Xchange rate, duty tax, etc...) so
what should I get? I have alimited budget and don't want something too
expensive...

Oh, and if I *DO* get a scanner...can I use a CB 3' fiberglass whip
antenna with it?

Thanks plenty!

--
Heard a carol, mornful holy,       | [e-mail]
Chanted loudly, chanted lowly,     | [e-mail]
Till her blood was frozen slowly,  | [e-mail]
And her eyes were darkened wholly. | [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ronald Ahlers jr)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack Con Job?
Date: 4 Oct 1995 03:06:27 GMT
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RADIO SHACK HAS A WEB SITE!
http:\\www.tandy.com

-
  RONALD AHLERS JR  [e-mail]
Manger of 01-8545 Radio Shack in Omaha, NE



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:09 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Todd Baker)
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Subject: New Zealand new Ambulance freqs
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Anyone interested in new ambulance freqs (FM VHF) for NZ I have them.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Amy Rives mccollum)
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Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
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Bottom line:  If you're talking on it, and it has an antenna, don't say
anything you wouldn't say in a crowded room.



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Carter)
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Subject: AA Battery pack for BC2500
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Does anyone know where I can get an "AA" battery pack which I can
install my own "AA" batteries for a BC2500?

Steve


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary)
Subject: Wanted: JIL SX-400 Schematics
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I have a dead JIL SX-400 radio.
I believe that, in the US, JIL is also
dead.  If anyone has a schematic, or knows
where I could get one, I'd be very happy.

Thanks!
Gary

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:12 1995
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Subject: Modification?
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I posted this the other day, but I think I did something wrong.  So here I
try again.

I have a Bearcat 120XLT.  Is there a way to modify it so that I can reach
the 800 band?

If so, how or where can I get it done?

Thanks.

Guy Adams


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:13 1995
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Subject: Re: Have NASCAR Freqs?
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> ==========Jeff Long, 10/2/95==========
>
> I'm headed to a Winston Cup race and was wondering if anyone has
> this year's
> frequency list.  Thanks.
>

The following is from http://www2.msstate.edu/~rls3/wcscan,
courtesy of Mark Breland and Roger Smith.  I was at the N.
Wilkesboro race on 10/1, and verified most of this to be
accurate, except that Dale Earnhardt was using the second listed
frequency, and NASCAR seemed to have switched over to their new
frequencies completely.  I also found Ernie Irvan's frequencies
in an updated list:

88   Ernie Irvan     466.5750    465.9000

--
Nelson Yount

=======================================================================

Here's the latest in updated Winston Cup frequencies as verified by
Mark Breland at Richmond, VA:

As of September 9, 1995:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
NASCAR Winston Cup Scanner Frequencies:

The first channel listed for each driver is the last one that team
was verified to have communicated on.  The #11 Brett Bodine channel
no longer seems to be scrambled.  NASCAR is in the process of
transitioning from one set of frequencies to another...since they
still use frequencies from both sets, they are both included here.
Be advised that some teams hop frequencies from race to race and
even day to day...keep trying their different frequencies until you
find them.

Frequencies used by the media vary from race to race, the listed
frequencies are those verified to have been the last ones on which
they were heard communicating.  To find the production channel for
the covering media at any given event, it's recommended to use the
scanner's search mode between frequencies 450 and 470.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 0   Delma Cowart       460.6875
 1   Rick Mast          458.1625    463.8875
02   T.W. Taylor        463.8000    466.1500
 2   Rusty Wallace      461.5875    461.3375    463.4500
 3   Dale Earnhardt     463.2250    469.0125    462.0250
 4   Sterling Marlin    464.3000    464.3875    467.9250
 5   Terry Labonte      468.2125    469.4875
 6   Mark Martin        460.9500    468.5625    463.9250
 7   Geoff Bodine       457.3750    463.1750
 8   Jeff Burton        465.8875    466.0875
 9   Lake Speed         464.1750    463.1750
10   Ricky Rudd         465.7375    463.9375    467.8875
11   Brett Bodine       855.5125
12   Derrike Cope       467.7250    467.5750
14   Hagan Racing       466.5750
15   Dick Trickle       457.5250    457.5500    466.5625
16   Ted Musgrave       468.4500
17   Darrell Waltrip    469.3125    468.7625    469.1375
18   Bobby Labonte      467.7625    466.0125
19   Loy Allen, Jr.     467.1875
20   Moroso Racing      466.2750    458.9750
21   Morgan Shepherd    855.0375    855.2875
22   Ward Burton        468.9375    462.6625
23   Jimmy Spencer      469.8375    469.7625
24   Jeff Gordon        467.0625    469.4875
25   Ken Schrader       466.7875    469.4875
26   Hut Stricklin      460.5875    468.4875
27   Elton Sawyer       855.5625    (scrambled)
28   Dale Jarrett       466.9500    466.4500
29   Steve Grissom      467.9625    466.4625
30   Michael Waltrip    466.3000    466.1250
31   Greg Sacks         467.9875    463.7750
32   ATS Racing         462.7125
33   Robert Pressley    468.7750    466.7375
37   John Andretti      461.6625    462.5250 (scrambled)
40   SABCO/Brooks       462.9750
41   Ricky Craven       468.8375    461.5625    461.2125
42   Kyle Petty         460.9750    461.0000
43   Bobby Hamilton     852.1875    865.6125
44   Jeff Purvis        463.5875
47   Billy Standridge   465.7875
52   Gary Bradberry     467.9250
53   Richie Petty       461.7875    858.7875
55   Tim Fedewa         464.3625
56   Jerry Hill         460.9250
61   Rick Carelli       461.2375
71   Dave Marcis        467.5625
73   Phil Barkdoll      467.8250    467.7750
75   Todd Bodine        468.9750    461.9375
77   Bobby Hillin       458.9750    459.8375
80   Jimmy Horton       466.8625
81   Kenny Wallace      459.6875    459.2875    461.5625
82   Mark Stahl         467.1000
87   Joe Nemechek       460.2375    467.6125
89   Jim Sauter         464.9625
90   Mike Wallace       467.1625
94   Bill Elliott       469.8750    466.2250
97   Chad Little        463.4250
98   Jeremy Mayfield    468.7250    469.1500


NASCAR
(old channels) 464.5000   464.9000   467.8000   464.7750   463.8500
(new channels) 461.2000   463.6250   463.8500   466.2000   469.5000

IROC     461.6625   464.9500

MRN      454.0000

PRN      463.2250

CBS      153.2850

ESPN     450.2500

TNN      467.9000   467.7500

TBS      462.0250   462.0500   450.7625   455.5875




From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:15 1995
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Subject: College Park, MD Frequencies?
Date: 4 Oct 1995 14:10:49 GMT
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Does anyone know the PD/FD/EMS frequencies for College Park, Maryland?
I'd appreciate any info.

Larry Katz
N2TBX


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:16 1995
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Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
Date: 4 Oct 1995 16:37:41 GMT
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> This is the first time I ever heard someone refer to light as radio
> waves!

Don't get out much?  You've never seen a spectrum chart that shows
light (IR, visable, UV) up a the top?  Never heard the expression,
"this thing covers every band from DC to light"?  Any novice radio
hobbiest can tell you that light is electromagnetic energy.

> Here's my analogy -- radios waves trespassing on MY property are fair
> game for me to demodulate.  Likewise, photons trespassing on MY
> property are fair game to be collected and magnified -- i.e,
> binoculars are o.k.  Sounds waves, trespassing on MY property have the
> right to be listened to -- do you suggest I plug my ears if my
> neighbors are having an argument?

Only if they are keeping you awake.  If you just hear it - that's it,
you just hear it.

Heres a hypothetical - From my bedroom window, I see you having an
argument with your wife.  I can't hear you clearly, but from your
actions, I can assume you are really getting into it.  So I take out
my "bionic ear" (one of those sensitive mics on a small dish),
aim at you and start listening in.  I guess that would be "rational"
..ethical...morally OK?  Am I peering into your business?

Your rationale is building a case that says, even when you have a
direct conversation with someone in your own home, you don't have a
reasonable expectation of privacy...unless you take action to keep
others from listening in by encrypting it...

..but then the peeping toms start posting things to this group like,
"Subject: How can I decode encrypted cordless phones?"

----
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA



From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:17 1995
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RE: MYSTERY CORDLESS PHON
Date: 4 Oct 1995 16:56:47 GMT
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[e-mail] (BILL FUNK) wrote:
>
>
> On 29 Sep 95 05:39pm, CURTIS WHEELER wrote to ALL:
>
>  CW> After you call me a "holier than thou" (you obviously don't know me)
>  CW> you use words like "ethically" and "morally"?  Ethics and morals
>  CW> aside - cordless phone users have a _reasonable_ expectation of
>  CW> privacy, BY LAW.  This is a fact you can't deny - you might not like
>  CW> it, but it is a fact.
>
>  Yeah, right. And if congresscritters pass a law saying by truck is white,
>  when it *looks* blue, what color is it, *really*? It's blue.
>  If those same congresscritters say a radiophone user has a reasonably
>  expectation of privacy, do they *really*? No. Just in law.
>  Just as my truck would still be blue, those radiophone users have no real
>  expectations of privacy.
>  Law, yes. Bad law. Any law which attempts to change physics is a bad law.

I haven't seen anything in the ECPA that changes any physics.  It
regulates the actions of people.  Just like laws that say you can't
run red lights - physically you can - but the law says you can't.  The
law requires you to take a different course of action... stop and wait
for the light to turn green.

Bad law?  Could be.  But not all of it.

Can I monitor the phones calls on the cable in my back yard?

----
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA



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Date: 4 Oct 1995 17:05:39 GMT
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Alinco DR 130 2 meter mobile rig for sale.  6 months new, hardly
used, MINT.  With box, manual and all accessories.  Also includes
the EJ-20U Tone Squelch Decoder Unit.  $300.00 shipped to 48.
E-Mail   71242,[e-mail]   if interested.
Dan


From [e-mail] Wed Oct 04 14:08:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Allen Hansen, EEB)
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Subject: Re: AOR 1000 mod ??
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 17:22:37 GMT
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[e-mail] (Jay Runge) wrote:

>I have an AOR 1000 XLT.  I want to add a discriminator output jack to
>improve the output signal for a digital transmission I am feeding to my
>computer.

>1) Has anybody made this mod for the AOR1000?  I have seen this mod for
>other scanners, not mine.

>2) Where can I get a schematic or service manual for this thing?  Cost?

>Thanks, email with any info.

>Jay
>[e-mail]

We have the service manuals on order and should see them in a
couple of days.  Cost is $35.00

Allen

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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:14 1995
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From: Andrew Clegg,B 2 Rm 271P,[phone] <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: WTB: Pro2035 / Opto 535 / Cool Windows Software
Date: 5 Oct 1995 16:45:56 GMT
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Fred,

I bought a Pro-2035 a few weeks ago.  It's a nice radio.  It's hooked to
a discone on my roof.  It does much better handling overload problems
than my BC 200XLT did, plus it has an attenuation switch (10 dB) on
the back.  It still gets overloaded by FM BCST on the Air band, but
not too badly.  The audio quality is good, and the front-panel
ergonomics are OK.  One drawback (in my opinion) is the grouping of
100 channels into each scan bank.  I would prefer more scan banks, each with
fewer channels.  This will not be a problem if you are going to computer-
control the radio.  I don't have the Opto 535, but I've heard it's good.
It does not come with software, however, except for a demo.

This weekend I picked up a used AR-2500, which is a 0.5 - 1500 MHz coverage
radio with built-in RS232 port.  The built-in port is a nice feature,
and the 2016 frequencies you choose can be downloaded by computer.
Because of hardware limitations, the AR-2500 can only scan at a very
slow 2 channels per second under computer-control, so this is not
the way to go if you want fast scanning (I believe the 535 / 2035 combo
can scan at about 80 channels/sec).  In my very informal tests, I
found the 2035 to be a better receiver, but the 2500 covers more
frequencies and adds SSB capability.  I found the reception
suprisingly good on HF (all things considered).  It actually
can be used for good SW BCST band reception.  It also has a signal
strength meter, which I believe the Opto 535 will add (through
software) to the 2035.

Sorry to ramble on.  I think the 2035 is a good radio.  One last thing,
the 2035 has been discontinued and replaced with a more expensive model
which is essentially the same except for a better search-and-store
utility and a different colored backlight (yellow instead of green).  If
the 2035 didn't out-perform the AR-2500 in some categories, I would
offer to sell you mine--my wife gave me that look when I came home last
weekend with YET ANOTHER "noise-maker" (her general-purpose term for
any radio-related item).

Good luck!

Andrew Clegg
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (David S. Eitelbach)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Need Contra Costa County frequencies
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 07:15:16 GMT
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[e-mail] (DianeMay) wrote:

> Can anyone supply me with police and fire frequencies for East Contra
> Costa County in California?

Where more specifically?

--
David S. Eitelbach
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:16 1995
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From: "Charles W. Doolittle-Scovish" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: JFK to LAX
Date: 5 Oct 1995 16:45:39 GMT
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Another interesting freq. would be 123.45, no joke.  It is the 'chat' freeq.


--
Charles W. Doolittle-Scovish
[e-mail]
N1SPX
http://www.rpi.edu/~doolic



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andrea Bonilla)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: JFK to LAX
Date: 7 Oct 1995 18:52:08 GMT
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    More than 20 freqs would be used. I can assure that because I have
been on the transcontinental flight from LAX-MIA which uses betwee 35-50
frequencies. As someone said earlier , it varies and the frequencies
aren't always the same.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Leblanc)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: HELP!!! My Pro-43 stop working!!!
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 10:57:20 GMT
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[e-mail] (131H30000-STEPHEN CHU(MT4084)NOBIN) wrote:

>I can't belive my eyes...I was in the middle of programming a freq
>into channel 98 when all of a sudden, the display froze. The entire
>keyboard was "locked"-none of the keys responded. I then power cycled
>and after that, the display is blank. Subsequent power cycle does not
>help-the display is blank, keyboard locked.

According to the owners manual these are the classic symptoms of a
scanner that needs a reset. To reset a Pro-43  you must hold down
both the CLEAR and 0 keys while turning on the power. This procedure
will aslo erase all existing programming.


Rick



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (T.J. Harrell III)
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Subject: Re: Scanner Question
Date: 6 Oct 1995 01:01:01 GMT
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Lee Hines ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I have been tasked with buying a scanner for our Physical Security
: department. The main feature that I need to find is a scanner that has
: some type of non-modifiable lockout, so that only those frequencies that
: we want entered are entered. Does anyone have any suggestions?? Thanks in
: advance for any help you can provide.

I guess you could take any old scanner with a keylock switch and then
physically disable the switch by cutting a trace or soldering a
jumper after getting the frequencies programmed.  Of course, this
will probably hose any warranty you have.

T.J.
--
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:19 1995
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Subject: Re: Scanner Question
Date: 7 Oct 1995 17:49:10 GMT
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In <451v4d$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (T.J. Harrell III) writes:
>
>I guess you could take any old scanner with a keylock switch and then
>physically disable the switch by cutting a trace or soldering a
>jumper after getting the frequencies programmed.  Of course, this
>will probably hose any warranty you have.
>

I would recommend mounting a switch inside the case to disable the keylock button, so that it will be possible in the future to reprogram the scanner if n

I would think that having to disassemble the case to reprogram the unit would be a sufficient deterrent to unauthorized reprogramming.

Later,

Andrew



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Cogswell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanner w/computer interface.. lookin' for one.
Date: 6 Oct 1995 13:25:35 GMT
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I'm looking for a scanner that has one of those serial interfaces that
picks up 800 mhz (so I can listen to the local police). The number of
channels isn't real important, although at least 50 channels would be
nice and I'd prefer a base scanner. I'm willing to trade an external
double speed Sony CD ROM drive w/it's own controller card, cable and
driver software for it. I got it back in April and paid $279 for it.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:21 1995
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Subject: Re: Another Dipole question ....
Date: 6 Oct 1995 13:48:28 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (Susan) writes:
>

>  So my question is do I get a signal as clear in this disign
>  as I would get if I only used one length / one dipole ?
>
You would be bettter off building or buying a "trap dipole" antenna.  It has coils or traps that make the antenna multiband.  There
would be a great deal of interaction between the elements on an antenna array as you drew. Besides, you'd probably kill a few
flying birds with the desigh! <g>

>  Also how to you go about measuring an antenna to find which freq
>  it is tuned for ?? I don't mean measuring the length, but actually
>  measuring the signal strength and freq online ? (oscilliscope ??)
>
The best way to measure resonant frequency without the use of a transmitter and an swr meter is with a noise bridge. Experience
says that the length of antenna elements for reception are not so critical that if you follow the formulas in the ARRL antenna
book, you will able to receive the intended frequencies.  Resonance is far more critical when you are radiating EM energy that
when receiving it, especially since most contemporary receivers are fairly sensitive to weak signals.

>  Looks like I need the ARRL antenna book ! and a few lessons on antenna designs
>  and principles.
>
Try:    http://www.arrl.org/      for the ARRL.  They have a catalogue of all their products as well as ordering information. The
antenna box is excellent, and now comes with an IBM compatable disk with various antenna design programs.

>  Thanks for any help ahead of time.
>
>  Richard Reider
>

Hope some of this helps, Susan, Richard?

Regards "777"


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Barker)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: I still need SS freqs besides VHF
Date: 6 Oct 1995 14:38:07 GMT
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I still need some confirmed UHF freqs that SS may be usding for traveling
with Clinton.. what's his code name now?  The VHF ones are all but
silent..cept for the local Baker repeater on 165.7875




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gazerz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: I still need SS freqs besides VHF
Date: 6 Oct 1995 20:52:01 -0400
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[e-mail] (Robert Barker) wrote:


>I still need some confirmed UHF freqs that SS may be usding for traveling

>with Clinton.. what's his code name now?  The VHF ones are all but
>silent..cept for the local Baker repeater on 165.7875


Since the Pope (and Clinton)have been around the New Jersey/New York area,
the following have been busy

165.7875 - BAKER
165.3750 - CHARLIE
407.8500 - ECHO ( Air Force One)
165.2125 - MIKE
164.4000 - PAPA
166.5125 - SIERRA


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (MP)
Subject: FS: ICOM R1 Wide band Receiver (Scanner)
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For Sale: ICOM R1 Wide band Receiver (Scanner)

- 100 KHz - 1300 MHz Continuous coverage including all cellular bands
- AM/FM/WFM Modes
- Handheld (very small 4"x 1.25" x 2.25")
- LCD display (with light)
- Clock
- Built-in rechargeable battery pack
- Wide band VHF/UHF antenna
- Charger
- Leather case
- Instruction Manual

This receiver has had very little use and is in Perfect condition.

$400 US including shipping (North America)

Please reply to:

[e-mail]

Milan Podhorsky
[phone] Ext 2512 or
[phone] Ext 2512 (9-6 est)








From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Wayda)
Subject: Re: FS: ICOM R1 Wide band Receiver (Scanner)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
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The ICOM R1 is aa very poor receiver. It suffers from severe front end
overload and intermod that makes it almost useless in large metro areas.
This radio is worth about $175.00. It was never worth anywhere near the
price that ICOM charges. Newbies beware of tthe ICOM R1!

Jim Wayda
Capain, Scanner Price Police


 MP
([e-mail])
wrote: : For Sale: ICOM R1 Wide band Receiver (Scanner)

: - 100 KHz - 1300 MHz Continuous coverage including all cellular bands
: - AM/FM/WFM Modes
: - Handheld (very small 4"x 1.25" x 2.25")
: - LCD display (with light)
: - Clock
: - Built-in rechargeable battery pack
: - Wide band VHF/UHF antenna
: - Charger
: - Leather case
: - Instruction Manual

: This receiver has had very little use and is in Perfect condition.

: $400 US including shipping (North America)

: Please reply to:

: [e-mail]

: Milan Podhorsky
: [phone] Ext 2512 or
: [phone] Ext 2512 (9-6 est)








From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: ICOM R1 Wide band
Date: Sat,  7 Oct 1995 15:33:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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JW>The ICOM R1 is aa very poor receiver. It suffers from severe front end
  >overload and intermod that makes it almost useless in large metro areas.
  >This radio is worth about $175.00. It was never worth anywhere near the
  >price that ICOM charges. Newbies beware of tthe ICOM R1!

JW>Jim Wayda
  >Capain, Scanner Price Police

PLEASE!  STOP the R1 BASHING!  It is old news and not entirely true.








JW> MP
  >([e-mail])
  >wrote: : For Sale: ICOM R1 Wide band Receiver (Scanner)

JW>: - 100 KHz - 1300 MHz Continuous coverage including all cellular bands
  >: - AM/FM/WFM Modes
  >: - Handheld (very small 4"x 1.25" x 2.25")
  >: - LCD display (with light)
  >: - Clock
  >: - Built-in rechargeable battery pack
  >: - Wide band VHF/UHF antenna
  >: - Charger
  >: - Leather case
  >: - Instruction Manual

JW>: This receiver has had very little use and is in Perfect condition.

JW>: $400 US including shipping (North America)

JW>: Please reply to:

JW>: [e-mail]

JW>: Milan Podhorsky
  >: [phone] Ext 2512 or
  >: [phone] Ext 2512 (9-6 est)
---
 * QMPro 1.50 41-9162 * LSD: Virtual reality....without the expensive hardware.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike)
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Subject: Scanners in Canada
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Hi guys/gals. I was just wondering whether scanners that are for sale
in canada have the cellular frequencies. (My friend is going up there
and I want to know if I should have him pick one up for me.) IF they
do, are they available at any radio shack? Also, whaich canadian model
would you recommend?

Thanks.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:27 1995
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Subject: Re: Scanners in Canada
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In <453h3r$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Mike) writes:
>Hi guys/gals. I was just wondering whether scanners that are for sale
>in canada have the cellular frequencies. (My friend is going up there
>and I want to know if I should have him pick one up for me.) IF they
>do, are they available at any radio shack? Also, whaich canadian model
>would you recommend?
>
>Thanks.
>
Well, I was in London, Ontario a couple months back and the Radio Shack
there had brand new Pro 2006's.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Allan Risk)
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Subject: Re: Scanners in Canada
Date: 7 Oct 1995 04:41:49 GMT
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Mike ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hi guys/gals. I was just wondering whether scanners that are for sale
: in canada have the cellular frequencies. (My friend is going up there
: and I want to know if I should have him pick one up for me.) IF they
: do, are they available at any radio shack? Also, whaich canadian model
: would you recommend?
:
: Thanks.
:

The Pro2006 and Pro43 are now clearance items with limited stock.  Act fast.
The 2006 is selling for $399.00 here.

--
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Allan Risk                              Internet: [e-mail]
London, Ontario, Canada                 Amateur Radio: VE3RSK
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:29 1995
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Subject: Re: Scanners in Canada
Date: 7 Oct 1995 22:23:03 GMT
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[e-mail] (Mike) wrote:
>Hi guys/gals. I was just wondering whether scanners that are for sale
>in canada have the cellular frequencies. (My friend is going up there
>and I want to know if I should have him pick one up for me.) IF they
>do, are they available at any radio shack? Also, whaich canadian model
>would you recommend?
>
>Thanks.
>




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Sohl  Budd Lake)
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Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
Date: 4 Oct 1995 14:41:56 GMT
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[e-mail] (bill Rogers) ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I live in Maryland and occasionally drive into DC. My mobile ham rig can
: scan through some 40 channels, some of which are programmed with police
: and other frequencies.

: Is that a violation? Is my ham ticket any protection?

If your reig is an actual amateur transceiver, then the FCC has
preempted any local laws which might impact you.  The FCC
premption makes no statements as to any programed frequencies
etc.  The premption is strictly based on your being a ham
and that you are using a ham transceiver which happens to
have an extended receive capability.

--
Cheers, ---------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl  K2UNK     (Budd lake, New Jersey)      ([e-mail])
VTR Assistant Magazine Editor, Past VTR President (1983-1990)
ARRL Local Government Liason, Mount Olive Township
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:31 1995
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From: "N. Schultheiss" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Need help with using 9913 coax
Date: 6 Oct 1995 17:09:33 GMT
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I have never had a problem using 9913,  I jumped the cable to the lower
level of my house (58@100') and lost very little of the orig. signal.  Is
there a problem with the 6' section your using?


==============================================================
N. Schultheiss
[e-mail]
Detroit, Michigan, USA
==============================================================




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Fink)
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Subject: Re: Need help with using 9913 coax
Date: 8 Oct 1995 23:12:21 GMT
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N. Schultheiss ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I have never had a problem using 9913,  I jumped the cable to the lower
: level of my house (58@100') and lost very little of the orig. signal.  Is
: there a problem with the 6' section your using?

  I think there's a problem somewhere I am leaning towards the connectors,
When I put the extension on it really wiped out a significant amount of
coverage. My yupi was picking up freqs that my 2006 could'nt. I think I'am
going to try a 24" piece of rg8x and some new connectors.

Mike



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (-)
Subject: PRO43 vs PRO39
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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I saw (2) pro43 (5A4) and (2) pro39 scanners, $200 - $175 respectively,
at a pawn shop here in Columbus, OH.

I'd like the 43 but it ain't 800mhz modifiable.

Beside the above modifiable feature, what are the pros and cons I
should know in order to get the "best" deal.

ie: scanning range, speed, modifications, channels <-before/after mods,
    memories etc.

Would someone post (or email) a side by side comparison?


thanks ->bh


"Home of the world famous king koil mattress"


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (-)
Subject: Re: STUFF/SCANNERS forsale !
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In article <43ubjb$[e-mail]>, Susan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>All this stuff is forsale.
>
>Don't Police the Prices ! Thanks.
>
>
<snip>
>New condition, no box/manual.
>30-54,108-174,380-512,806-823,851-960MHz. w/cell !
>
>$150 - Model SC150B (new condition)
>Twin Turbo Sportcat w/Weather Search
>29-54,108-174,406-512,806-956 (-cell)
>w/box & manual
>
>2@ $45 - Model #TRC-207
<snip>>
>
>Offers accepted,
>Question accepted,
>Trades considered,
>
>Comments - Keep of my screen.
>
>Price Police BACK OFF, This stuff is well taken care of
>and is taking up shack space. IT'S NOT BEING GIVEN AWAY.
>
>Richard Reider -


"Breaker breaker - I dunno, Mr. Price Police officer, it seems suspicious . . .
 maybe you outa check it out."

-> bill, member, McKinley Circle price neighborhood watch 8^)


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Frederick Kelcz)
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Subject: No returns in Connecticut?
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 15:14:10 +1000
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I was thinking of purchasing a several items by mail-order from a
communications store in Connecticut that advertises in Monitoring Times.  When
I asked about the return policy I was curtly told,  "Sorry sir, I don't sell
items for evaluation, Connecticut State Law forbids me to do so."

I was quite taken aback and when I told them that several other stores do have
a reasonable return policy (e.g. Grove - complete refund and EEB - 20% restock
fee), the person finally conceded that "some items" could be returned with a
20% restock fee, but they would "have to think about it".

Needless to say I will NOT invest my $$ in that outfit - but I thought others
would be interested in this "new approach" to sales i.e. invoking state "laws"
to prevent you from getting your money back on items that do not suit your
needs.

Fred K. N9SLR
Frederick Kelcz, PhD, MD
Dept. of Radiology
University of Wisconsin, Madison


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Boscoe A. Wheeler)
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Subject: Mod for light on PRO-2035?
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Has anybody come up with a mod for the PRO-2035 to make the backlight
selectable? Also, if there are any other mods for this unit, I'd be
interested in knowing about them. (I know it can't be made
cellular-capable.)

And, too, are there any computer-interfaces for this unit? (I know...
I am asking alot but I don't know how else to find these answers.)

Thank you.

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:37 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Craigbrews)
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Subject: PRO-2038 Mods
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I'm looking for help with my Radio Shack PRO-2038: specifically,
modifications to increase the search/scan rate.  Would the Bill Cheek
books or his newsletter have material to help? I'd appreciate anything
anyone could offer on this.  Thanks.

                                                    Craig in El Paso


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:38 1995
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Subject: Bearcat 200xlt problem
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I cannot enter frequencies in order to scan a given range.  Pressing the
keys turns the memory banks on/off but does not have any effect on the
range entrys.  I can enter the freqs into the memory banks as usual.
Is there anything I can try to correct this problem or must it go to the
repair shop?





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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Ellis)
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Subject: Re: Bearcat 200xlt problem
Date: 7 Oct 1995 02:13:48 GMT
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I think I had the same problem once. It drove me crazy. Try put the
scanner on manual and then try to put in an entry in search mode that
might do it.


JE



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:39 1995
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From: Len Gibbs <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Bearcat 200xlt problem
Date: 7 Oct 1995 20:53:29 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:
>I cannot enter frequencies in order to scan a given range.  Pressing the
>keys turns the memory banks on/off but does not have any effect on the
>range entrys.  I can enter the freqs into the memory banks as usual.
>Is there anything I can try to correct this problem or must it go to the
>repair shop?
>
>
>
In order for you to enter a scan range, the scanner must first be in
manual mode.  You can put it in manual mode by pressing the "MANUAL"
button, which will stop the scanner from scanning.  Once it has stopped
scanning, just press the lower freq and press "LIMIT" and press the upper
freq and press "LIMIT" and press "SEARCH".  I think this will solve your
problem.

The reason it didn't work the other way, was because the way the 200xlt
works, is that pressing a number while scanning will cause that bank to
turn off and on (ie: pressing "9" while scanning will either turn that
bank on or off - it's a toggle switch)

Good Luck

Len Gibbs



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Frisbie)
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Subject: PRO-2006 "audio" data mod needed
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 6 Oct 95 11:36:53 PDT
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I am trying to use my PRO-2006 to decode a data signal.
Unfortunately, the audio section takes the nice data and
"processes it to death".   This is fine for voice signals,
but hell for data.

I am looking for a modification that will let me tap off
the "audio" signal as soon after the discriminator as
possible, buffer it, and feed it to an output jack.

I could not find anything like this in any of Bill Cheek's
books, but am hoping that one of you might have done
something along these lines.   Any advice and/or pointers
would be appreciated.

--  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
--  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.
--  4759 Round Top Drive          [phone] (voice)
--  Los Angeles, CA 90065         [phone] (FAX)


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James C. Post)
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Subject: ?????Question?????
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I recently saw an advertisement in one of those "Creative Solutions"
catalogs (I don't remember the name) for what was effectively a scanner but
not referred to that way.  They claim that this device can alert you of a
police car within 3 miles by detecting their communications equipement.
Could this truely be?  If so it would be a nice think to know and I would
like to know how they do it.  Are they possible picking up a repeater?   If
so how would I setup my Yupiteru 7100 to do the same thing.  Any ideas?

Thanks for any responses,

--
Jim Post


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:42 1995
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Subject: Re: ?????Question?????
Date: 9 Oct 1995 06:17:45 -0400
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I believe you are referring to the  Uniden Bearcat Beartracker BCT-7. This
is being marketed as a "pre-programmed highway information system". This
scanner is pre programmed with state by state freqs, for the highway
patrol, and also has a feature, that alerts you when you are within 3
miles of a highway patrol unit, using a mobile extender. A mobile extender
is basically a two way repeater that works with the troopers car mobile
unit, to extend the range of his portable, when he is not in the car. So,
I really don't see this as a substitute for a radar detector, but I do
like the idea, of being able to access state police freqs, merely by
stepping thru, alphabetically. This unit also has 800mhz coverage. Hope
this helps.

Rich
WB8YHE


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Martin Gebhart)
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Subject: Frequenz Listen
Date: 06 Oct 1995 21:00:38 GMT
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Hello !

Vorerst Sorry aber mein Englisch ist Eingerostet, deshalb Versuchs
ich so.

Sammler Sucht: Frequenzlisten aus aller Welt !
Egal woher und aus welchem Land
Bereiche VHF - UHF - SHF - EHF

Angebote bitte Direkt an meine Box an: [e-mail]
Danke im Vorhinein !!!


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Is there any web site that I can find a frequency?

Thanks,
Jonathan



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In article <454a1i$[e-mail]>,
<[e-mail]> writes:

>Subject:       " a I need a web site where I can look up a scanner
frequency
>From:  <[e-mail]>
>Date:  6 Oct 1995 22:19:30 GMT
>
>
>Is there any web site that I can find a frequency?
>
>Thanks,
>Jonathan
>
>

Try this wonderful site at:
http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~thharrel/scanner/scanner.html


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (shatter)
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Subject: Re: DTMF DECODER! ITS BEEN FOUND
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K. Nelson ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I believe that the "freeware" product was written for Sound Blaster
: 1.5/2.0 so I don't know what results you would get from another sound

I am running a Sound Blaster 16 ASP card.... anyways... I don't really
have a need to decode the signals that I can see.  I was just seeing if
it worked.

Chad



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From: [e-mail] (Lee Hines)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Blue Angels - Fleet Week freqs?
Date: 6 Oct 1995 20:51:44 GMT
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In article <4515ka$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ken
Cook) wrote:

-> In article <44ven6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Don Loarie)
-> writes:
-> |> Does anyone know any frequencies likely to be interesting for the San
-> |> Francisco "Fleet Week" perfomance with the Blue Angels, etc.
-> |>
-> |> thanks,
-> |> Don
-> |> [e-mail]
-> |>
->
-> Loarie -
->
-> The Blue Angels have canelled their performance in SF this weekend for
-> Fleet Week. They are having some internal flight safety problems that have
-> required them to go into a Safety Standown. It is most likely that all of
-> their performances for the rest of the year will also be canelled. Sorry.


Ken - Just read this from the SJ Mercury News:

"Fans of spectacular but noisy jets can rest easy:The Blue Angels, the
Navy's precision flying team, announced in Alameda on Thursday that they
will go ahead with plans to fly in this weekend's Navy Fleet Week
celebration in San Francisco. The Blue Angels, recruited from the best
Navy and Marine pilots, canceled shows in Virginia and Louisiana the last
two weekends, reportedly because of "procedural errors" that have led to
concerns about safety. And rumors swirled that the Blue Angel's might pull
out of Fleet Week. Lt. Cmdr. Doug Thompson, a left wingman, said all
systems are go for this weekend's shows, scheduled to begin at 12:15 p.m.
Saturday and Sunday."

So it looks like they are going to fly after all. C-ya, Lee.

--
              Views expressed here are not necessarily those of my employer.
                              **Go Gator's - '91, 93'and '94 SEC Champs**
                        Work is for people who don't fish, hunt or play golf.
                                     Promise Keeper's - Men of Integrity


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve & Kelley Jones)
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Subject: Re: Small 150MHz receiver? Motorola pager?
Date: 6 Oct 1995 22:59:07 GMT
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Engine 270 ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The Motorola Minitor series receives are not pagers but single channel UHF
: or VHF receivers and are crystal controlled and tuned to a specific

Gee, I always thought that the Minitor was a pager with the ability to
monitor a certain channel.  Guess those 2 tone reeds inside are going
to waste.

Steve


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Greybeard)
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Subject: Re: Here's the newest DTMF file decoder -- dtmf_d2.zip - dtmf_d2.zip (1/2)
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"K. Nelson" <[e-mail]} writes:

}} P.S. I have NO connection with the author of the DTMF program.
}}
}}
}No sh*t sherlock.  Don't you think I know that J.Shima's programs aren't
}freeware?  If you READ the message I had posted before he posted his
}programs, I used to have a FREEWARE dtmf decoder about 2 years ago that I
}got from the net. I can't find it and I was asking someone to post it,
}however, Shima decided to put his Shareware version on the group.  So get
}your head out of your damned ass and start thinking.  Sheesh
}
}Keith

Grow up, and get your head out of your arse. Oh, being American you
can't grow up, can you? They don't have an education system over there
so I suppose you can never grow up.

Greybeard



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Greybeard ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
: Grow up, and get your head out of your arse. Oh, being American you
: can't grow up, can you? They don't have an education system over there
: so I suppose you can never grow up.

...such a witty rejoinder! Oscar Wilde, watch out!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gazerz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Papal Visit to New York City and New Jersey
Date: 6 Oct 1995 20:48:03 -0400
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  [e-mail] (Steve ) wrote:

>   Any suggestions on frequencies to monitor for this visit. I am
>about 50 miles away from NYC(Near Princeton,NJ) and cannot possibly
>hear any simplex. But any suggested helio,aircraft,or repeaters,most
>appreciated. please reply here or to [e-mail].
>Steve

You may want to try the NJSP Trunked system Sunday morning. They have been
doing all escorts in Jersey (Newark Airport, Newark, Giants Stadium,
pick-up and hand-off at Lincoln Tunnel).

Try the following:
856.4625
867.4625
859.4725
860.4625

Not sure if you can get NYC. I'm sixteen miles out of Manhatten and get
Citywide 3 (Operation Shepherd) very clear.
470.8625 - CITYWIDE 3

Also don't forget the SS. They were pretty busy Wednesday with both the
Pope and Clinton here.

Good luck....

Robbie ;D


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dave Stuart ([e-mail]))
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Subject: Re: RS HTX-212 Problems
Date: 7 Oct 1995 00:53:19 GMT
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: I am too.  I use an HTX-202 and the lack of intermod more than makes up
: for the lack of expanded band coverage.  But I do have a problem with
: Radio Shack playing "cop" here and making a judgement as to what I should
: do with equipment that I purchase from them.  They have a long history of
: this...before the ham radios, it was scanners.  Radio Shack was one of
: the first manufacturers to block the cell bands out of their 800Mhz
: scanners...and at the time, there were no laws requiring them to do so.

: -Drew in Charlotte-
:  KF4DDM

Radio shack does not cater to the hardend ham or scanner fanatic. What
their market is people who are either casually into electronics or people
who hame no clue at all.

I have the 212 and I find myself all the time looking for my scanner to
listen to something when I have the ham.

What I think RS is aming for is not to make their products/service for
the electronics wizard but to make them simple enough for the person off
the street to use, enjouy, and come back and buy more. I know that all
the scanners except the newer 51 (Which I have) can be tweaked to include
the bands but, that is not what RS is selling to.

Also, they want to keep their greasy slick image untarnished by lawsuits.

--
-- Dave Stuart
[e-mail]
University of Missouri -- Rolla

KB0SLY



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: RS HTX-212 Problems
Date: 7 Oct 1995 05:03:39 GMT
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>What I think RS is aming for is not to make their products/service for
>the electronics wizard but to make them simple enough for the person off

>the street to use, enjouy, and come back and buy more. I know that all
>the scanners except the newer 51 (Which I have) can be tweaked to
include
>the bands but, that is not what RS is selling to.

Yeah, but it still amazes me that they would voluntarily cut out the cell
bands since that's what most of the "persons off the street" want to
listen to!  These folks are basically clueless and don't know a keyboard
from a motherboard.  They'll see a 20/20 or Current Affair report on TV
about how those evil scanner listeners are eavesdropping on their
neighbor's phone calls...and the next day, they go to their local RS to
get one!  The conversation goes something like this:

RS SalesDroid: Can I help you find something?
Customer:  Uh, yeah...I want a scanner
Droid: Great!  What do you want to listen to?
Customer: Phone calls!  I saw this thing on TV the other night, and...

So WHY would RS voluntarilly screw themselves out of a lucrative customer
base like this?  (Before the 1994 cellular ban, of course)

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:54 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RS HTX-212 Problems
Date: 8 Oct 1995 01:39:06 GMT
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Drew Durigan ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Yeah, but it still amazes me that they would voluntarily cut out the cell
: bands since that's what most of the "persons off the street" want to
: listen to!  These folks are basically clueless and don't know a keyboard
: from a motherboard.  They'll see a 20/20 or Current Affair report on TV
: about how those evil scanner listeners are eavesdropping on their
: neighbor's phone calls...and the next day, they go to their local RS to
: get one!  The conversation goes something like this:

Before the ban, there was very little interest in listening to cellular
phones. This changed when the law was passed. Now, tens of thousands of
people want to listen to cellular phone conversations - when before they
probably numbered in the hundreds or low thousands.

Bill


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From: [e-mail] (James Dean)
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Subject: Re: RS HTX-212 Problems
Date: 7 Oct 1995 09:59:01 GMT
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[e-mail]
Writes:




 ;It's no technical challenge to be able to store out of band
;frequencies...  R/S is trying to avoid getting caught up in
;the sale of Amateur equipment that can be perceived as illegal.
;Their HTX-100 10 meter rig and HTX-202 2M HT where "Ham Only"
;( The HTX-100 had USB/CW only...unworthy of CB use and the 202
;does not go out-of-band at all.)  The HTX-212 reluctantly crosses
;this line...you can see that there are still limitations (no
;out-of-band store or TX).
;
;I'm a firm believer in using the "right tools for the job"...
;I have Amateur Radio equipment for use in the Ham bands
;and a scanner for LISTENING from DC to light.
;You shouldn't incriminate R/S for selling Amateur equipment that
;doesn't do what it is not meant to (It's a HAM transsciever, not a
;scanner!).
;It's nice for some to have the ability to use their Ham rig to listen
;outside of the band but I personally don't like to substitute front-end
;rejection for that privledge. I use my scanner for that and suffer
;little or no intermod on my 2m Ham rig.
;
;....and now, back to scanners...
;



Geez- I didn't mean for this to go on this long.  I just wished that RS
had been a little more forthcoming with this information.  Again, shame
on me for assuming that this radio would store out of band RX like nearly
every other amatuer radio on the market.

As far as having the right tool to do the job, I fully agree, and do have
a number of scanners which, as you said, are far superior to an amatuer
radio transciever for this.  The only point I was making was that the
vehicle I mounted this in (a Camaro) doesn't have a lot of extra room,
and I didn't want that  "patrol car" look, so I was only planning on
mounting one unit.  As you say, this would limit my listening ability,
but that really wasn't a concern, since our local public safety radio
system consists of about 8 frequencies, all VHF.

I solved the problem by putting my ICOM which does do out of band RX in
the Camaro, and installing the HTX-212 in my Bronco, which already has an
AOR, so I didn't need this feature.


-
  JAMES DEAN KD4USF  [e-mail]
  Yes that's really my name.




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:57 1995
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From: Jeff Goldman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RS Pro-2040 Mods ?
Date: 7 Oct 1995 01:19:12 GMT
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Did you ever consider that the Pro2040 might be unmodifiable for cellular
since the law that went into effect in April of 1994? You can get full
strength (ie not attenuated) images in the 896.1125-915.6Mhz range.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:58 1995
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Subject: Re: GMRS radio - features/price...
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[e-mail] (ROY5715936) wrote:

>I think that many HAM radios do not use true FM while the better type
>accepted radios (Motorola) use real FM. I do not know if true FM is a
>prerequisite for type acceptance though. Just my too-sense


One of the bigest differences between HAM and GMRS ( Type acceptance)
is that the operator cannot enter a frequency.  That is they may have
many pre-programed freq's, but they may not enter them.

Dave



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:40:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Scott M. Eveland)
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Subject: Motor. Minitors was: Re: Small 150MHz receiver? Motorola pager?
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 1995 02:41:56 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ken) wrote:


>I'm wondering if I have one of these pagers. It's a motorola voice pager
>with a drop-in charger (with space for spare battery charging also).
>The belt clip is significantly larger than the Bravo's clip, and it's about
>the size of a pack of cigarettes ( a bit smaller, maybe).
>It has two controls: a on/volume pot, and a wide button on top. Under the
>button is a piece of paper with three digits typed on it.
Keep this in mind....

>I'm wondering what type  of signal is used to alert the pager that it should
>open squelch and play the voice message? Is it a simple tone sequence?
>From monitoring the frequency, it sounds as if it might be just a few tones.
>If this is possible, couldn't I just play the tones specific to the pager
>and get it to work (assuming I have a transmitter for 158 Mhz?)
>There are devices which look like they may be tuned circuits to recognize tones
>, but I'm not really all that familiar with the pager's guts (They seem like
>they were probably designed with 30 year old technology).
>Thanks for any help[ you can provide.
>-ken

The three digits typed on the piece of paper will tell you the signal
to alert the pager.  Usually Motorola designated a set of PL tones
with "dXXX" ie "d968".  Sometimes there will be two sets for both
group and individual paging.  "d100/140".

We just replaced a ton of VHF Minitors with Director IIs.  You missed
a nice sale of Mintors set to 152.00725 with d968 paging reeds.  Sold
20 of 'em at $10/each to an Emergency Management agency in a nearby
county.  For some reason the Motorola shop would take them for
trade-ins.......

The Minitors are dinosaurs, but reliable dinosaurs....
Although I kind of like the Stored Voice and Vibra-page on the
Director IIs.



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Subject: Re: Antenna for VHF-Lo Band?
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[e-mail] (G. Berlin) wrote:

>       My question is this: because of my FD involvement, I need to monitor
>freq's around 33 Mhz.  I am now putting in a second scanner in the car, but
>don't have an antenna for it.  I have a glass mount, but it was terrible the
>last time I used it.  Would using my already mounted CB antenna be a good idea?
>If not, any ideas?

IMHO, the CB antenna should be adequate for monitoring, provided you
will just be monitoring around 33MHz.  Just don't expect it to work to
hot for VHF/UHF/800.

And for goodness sakes...don't x-mit with it!  :^)

I use a 1/4 wave 2m antenna for my scanner, and we use mostly UHF, but
it does the job.
----------------------------------------------------------
Scott M. Eveland            Ham Call:  KB0FKN
[e-mail]            Alternate:  [e-mail]
Public safety dude in Hastings, Nebraska.
Standard disclaimer......................



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:01 1995
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Want PRO-2006 S-Meter Mod
Date: 7 Oct 1995 04:19:25 GMT
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Keywords: radio shack mod 2006

I've heard of people adding S-meters to their PRO-2006.  Is there a
"standard" mod available to do this?  I've looked in the usual archive
sites, but have been unable to locate such a mod.

--
Dick Flanagan, W6OLD - ([e-mail])


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From: [e-mail] (Rodney Skeeter)
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Subject: Re: Want PRO-2006 S-Meter Mod
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THE MOD CAN BE FOUND IN THE SCANNER MODIFICATION HANDBOOK VOLUME 2     BY
BILL CHEEK.


TRY  CRB RESEARCH BOOKS, INC.
         P.O. BOX 56
         COMMACK, NY    11725

GOOD LUCK        MR. SKEETER



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Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
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If the speech is inverted use a descrambler. You can find one at Ramseys. Now, be free.


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Subject: Papal Visit to NYC
Date: 7 Oct 1995 04:35:07 GMT
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Thanks to everyone for the info on Freqs to monitor. Many thanks.
Steve,Princeton,NJ [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Casey)
Subject: J pole antenna using COAX instead of twinlead for its stub
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A J POLE ANTENNA USING COAX FOR THE STUB

Instead of 300 ohm twinlead.

Decided to try using a piece of RG58 coax in place of the usual
300 ohm TV twinlead.  They're both transmission lines.   So, a
quarter wave length of eighter should work (factor in velocity
factor in measuring out a quarter wave length, twinlead is 0.88
and RG58 poly is 0.66).  And the coax is unbalanced, so no
theoritical need for a choke balun (ferrite beads or many turn
coil).  The coax shield is at RF ground potential, the RF is
on the center conductor, and the open end of the quarter wave
stub center conductor connects to the end of the half wave
dipole.  The tap is formed by "T" connecting the stub coax
to the coax feedline from the radio.

Take some RG58, short shield to center conductor.
Measure 13 1/4 inches from the short, remove the outside jacket
and shield at this point and beyond.  Leave an inch or 2 of
center conductor sticking out.

Measure 1 inch from the short, and prepare to do a "T" connection
here.  Create a hole in the outer shield about 1/3 inch long
and peel it about half way round the coax.  Then take a razor blade
and remove enough insulation from the center conductor to bare a
small spot.  Enough to do a tack solder connection, which connects
to the center conductor of the feedline coax.  And shield to
shield.  Take care to get a good connection without shorts.
Take your time here.  One probably could just use a BNC T connector
here, and make a short shorted cable for one side, and a longer
cable to feed the dipole on the other.  Just keep the overall
lengths right.

Now connect a length of wire to the center conductor sticking out
the open end of the stub, enough so the length of the wire and
the amount of center conductor protruding beyond the end of the
coax shield totals 37 1/2 inches.  This is the dipole part.


ASCII attempted diagram:                 |
                                         |
                                         |
                                         |
                                         |   37 1/2 inches
                                         |
                                         |
                                         |
                                        |||
                         _______________|||   13 1/4 inches (includes below
   2M HT---bird wattmeter----------------||                  1 inch)
                         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|||   1 inch
                                        ~~~

Used a 2 meter HT and a Bird wattmeter to measure forward and reflected
power, indirectly SWR.  My forward power was ten times reflected power,
not bad.  At one point, I had a bad T connection (bad solder joint)
that caused the forward power to almost equal reflected power.  Fixed
that, and now it works like the twinlead Jpoles.  Ran my hand along
the feedline coax, and the stub, no effect on reflected power.  Did
get reflected power if I get near the dipole part, as expected.

And I could hit repeaters pretty well, considering I was in the
basement.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] (GWagnitz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RE: ANTENNA LENGTH QUESTI
Date: 6 Oct 1995 23:55:05 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Reply-To: [e-mail] (GWagnitz)


  I certainly understand... Quote: "If  you can't get what you want...
Then
                                                 You better want what you
got"



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:06 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Aad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: request:police freq's for the Netherlands
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 20:26:44 GMT
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Hi, (hallo)

does anybody have a up-to-date list of freq's in Holland.
Or is there a WWW-page anywhere.
I can't find...

By, aad



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From: [e-mail] (Aad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: req: WWW-page with freq's of Holland
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 20:27:18 GMT
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Does anyone know such a place????



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:07 1995
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From: Pascal Massun <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: req: WWW-page with freq's of Holland
Date: 8 Oct 1995 09:51:31 GMT
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> Webpage with Dutch/Belgian freqs ?

Nope, haven't found one yet. I hoped Kluwer would've had one, as
they publish the scannerfreq. books, but in vain. And what this
newsgroup concerns: it's highly US populated, with some UK
visitors.

PcM scanning with AOR8000

--
The Maupi Forecast


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Pucaru)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PAGER FREQUENCIES???  POCSAG DECODER
Date: 7 Oct 1995 01:40:11 -0400
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please can some one explain why the interface that i built for pd.102
works
fine but it does not work with the message trakker program  any
information
appriciated


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (P.J. Heller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Regency TS-2
Date: 7 Oct 1995 05:50:06 GMT
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:09 1995
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From: [e-mail] (P.J. Heller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Regency TS-2
Date: 7 Oct 1995 06:11:19 GMT
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Regency (Uniden) TS-2 turbo scanner for sale.
75 channels, 11 bands (including full cellular (806-950)
works great. includes original manual.
$275 plus shipping.

reply by email to [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Sam Dunham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: MR8100 Software Needed
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 22:58:27
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In article <451qa1$[e-mail]> Len Gibbs <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Len Gibbs <[e-mail]>
>Subject: MR8100 Software Needed
>Date: 5 Oct 1995 23:38:41 GMT

>I just recently purchased a Uniden MR8100 mobile scanner.  I would like
>to know if anyone knows of any software that can be used to program this
>radio?  I have some software that came with the scanner made by "Talley
>Electronics" but would appreciate any other software that allows me to
>do more with the scanner.  I have checked the Oak Repository without any
>luck.

>Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

>Thanks in Advance

>Len Gibbs


>Disclaimer:
>..the views, words, phrases, etc are not representative of my employer..

Sorry, your out of luck. The serial protocol for the MR8100 only allows remote
programming of the 100 channels, nothing else.

If you need better software for remote programming, check out Scan*Star
professional. I believe that Scan*Star is one of the few, if not the only
retail product that supports the MR8100.

-Sam-



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From: [e-mail] (JRosariojr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: any info on export cordless phones
Date: 7 Oct 1995 02:23:11 -0400
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Can anybody enlighten me on export only phones and where they might be
aquired?


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Lou Milrad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro 2005 and Yupiteru MVT-7100 and MVT 8000
Date: 6 Oct 1995 10:35:16 -0400
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NNTP-Posting-Host: diplomatic.passport.ca

I have a pristine 400 channel cellular modified Realistic Pro 2005 which I
am considering selling (I've too many scanners already and being in Canada,
each is cellular capable, as it's not yet outlawed here).

Problem is that I do not know what its value is but am open to accepting a
reasonable offer given its "out-of-the box" condition.

I also have 2 YUPITERU scanners which I would like to sell - the MVT 8000
and the MVT-7100.

The MVT 8000 description is as follows:

It is a brilliantly designed  front panel angled 200 channel ac/dc unit. It
has a mounting bracket for mobile use and comes with a cigarette lighter
adapter although it can be hard wired. I use mine as a desktop unit in my
office.  Due to its small footprint, it occupies very little space on a
desk.

It covers 8 Mhz to 1300 Mhz and receives in WFM, NFM and AM. Frequency
steps are 5,10,12.5,50 and 100 Khz.  It's got a 10 band search function,
pass memory function, and other normal goodies.

Although seemingly assigned on the front panel by preset factory settings,
searches are categorized  to conform to channel numbering as follows:

Channel No.        Band

1                        FM
2                        Air V
3                        Air U
4                        Ham V
5                        Fire
6                        Marine
7                        Police U
8                        Ham U
9                        MCA
10                      PRNSL (903.0375-904.9875)

Of course, you can change factory settings. It also has a battery save
function.


                                                                    $650.00
plus shipping
The  MVT-7100:


Previous posting on the MVT-7100 was as follows and it has everything found
on the MVT 8000 and much more including USB and LSB:

MULTIBAND HANDHELD SCANNER 5Khz-1650 Mhz continuous coverage With SSB -
1000 Channel-AC/DC - less than 6 mos. old and hardly used. Includes
protective leatherette case.
     $625.00 plus shipping


--
Lou Milrad
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Lou Milrad)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS: Pro 2005 and Yupiteru MVT-7100 and MVT 8000
Date: 6 Oct 1995 10:39:06 -0400
Organization: Passport
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Xref: news.epix.net alt.radio.scanner:24414 rec.radio.scanner:39313 rec.radio.swap:48751

I have a pristine 400 channel cellular modified Realistic Pro 2005 which I
am considering selling (I've too many scanners already and being in Canada,
each is cellular capable, as it's not yet outlawed here).

Problem is that I do not know what its value is but am open to accepting a
reasonable offer given its "out-of-the box" condition.

I also have 2 YUPITERU scanners which I would like to sell - the MVT 8000
and the MVT-7100.

The MVT 8000 description is as follows:

It is a brilliantly designed  front panel angled 200 channel ac/dc unit. It
has a mounting bracket for mobile use and comes with a cigarette lighter
adapter although it can be hard wired. I use mine as a desktop unit in my
office.  Due to its small footprint, it occupies very little space on a
desk.

It covers 8 Mhz to 1300 Mhz and receives in WFM, NFM and AM. Frequency
steps are 5,10,12.5,50 and 100 Khz.  It's got a 10 band search function,
pass memory function, and other normal goodies.

Although seemingly assigned on the front panel by preset factory settings,
searches are categorized  to conform to channel numbering as follows:

Channel No.        Band

1                        FM
2                        Air V
3                        Air U
4                        Ham V
5                        Fire
6                        Marine
7                        Police U
8                        Ham U
9                        MCA
10                      PRNSL (903.0375-904.9875)

Of course, you can change factory settings. It also has a battery save
function.


                                                                    $650.00
plus shipping The  MVT-7100:


Previous posting on the MVT-7100 was as follows and it has everything found
on the MVT 8000 and much more including USB and LSB:

MULTIBAND HANDHELD SCANNER 5Khz-1650 Mhz continuous coverage With SSB -
1000 Channel-AC/DC - less than 6 mos. old and hardly used. Includes
protective leatherette case.
     $625.00 plus shipping



--
Lou Milrad
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ken)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: DECODERS
Date: 7 Oct 1995 02:51:26 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from rpi.forsale ]
[ Author was Ken ]
[ Posted on 7 Oct 1995 02:49:44 GMT ]

For sale:
decoders for popular over-the-air digital modes.

I) POCSAG decoder... this decoder circuit comes with your choice of connectors.
It interfaces between your scanner and computer and allows you to intercept
pages sent in POCSAG (most popular) format at 512 and 1200 baud.
Displays cap code and page sent. Works for tone only/numeric/alpha pagers
on any band (VHF/UHF/900Mhz)

II) SWL decoder. This circuit decodes RTTY (amateur Radio TeleTYpe), morse code
, and SHIP/SYNOP weather station formats. Also includes an audio scope function
.

III) Combo unit- combines the above two circuits into one.

Prices:
I) $50
II) $50
III) $75
Included with the interfacing cables are shareware supporting software. It is
your responsibility to register/pay for the software to the respective software
writers if you are satisfied with them.
email [e-mail]
-Ken

--
From the back of Joy (TM) soap:  Keep Joy out of the reach of children.
If Joy gets in your eyes, rinse thoroughly with water.  If swallowed, drink
a glass of water to dilute.
                                        "I got a snake, mang!" -Ken

--
From the back of Joy (TM) soap:  Keep Joy out of the reach of children.
If Joy gets in your eyes, rinse thoroughly with water.  If swallowed, drink
a glass of water to dilute.
                                        "I got a snake, mang!" -Ken


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James Dean)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Does 800 mhz "translator" work?
Date: 7 Oct 1995 09:37:18 GMT
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A friend of mine owns a dealer store and either this RS salesman knows
something we don't or he is wrong, because we can find no evidence that
RS has these converters.  They used to be available from GRE, but I think
most are sold out and they can't make more because of our friends in
congress and that nasty ban they enacted a few years back.  If you can
find one though, they do work.  They just move the 800 freq's down to 400
which is receivable by most scanners.

Also on one point the RS salesman is undoubtedly WRONG.  This converter
does NOT make it legal to monitor cellular.  That is against federal and
many state laws.  In fact, Georgia passed a law this year making cellular
monitoring a high misdemeanor w/ jail time.  Yikes!!! I bet that stops
lots of us ;]


-
  JAMES DEAN KD4USF  [e-mail]
  Yes that's really my name.
  Email to [e-mail]    It's cheaper-Thanks



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:17 1995
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Does 800 mhz "translator" work?
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 05:24:54 GMT
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[e-mail] (James Dean) wrote:

>A friend of mine owns a dealer store and either this RS salesman knows
>something we don't or he is wrong, because we can find no evidence that
>RS has these converters.  They used to be available from GRE, but I think
>most are sold out and they can't make more because of our friends in
>congress and that nasty ban they enacted a few years back.  If you can
>find one though, they do work.  They just move the 800 freq's down to 400
>which is receivable by most scanners.

>Also on one point the RS salesman is undoubtedly WRONG.  This converter
>does NOT make it legal to monitor cellular.  That is against federal and
>many state laws.  In fact, Georgia passed a law this year making cellular
>monitoring a high misdemeanor w/ jail time.  Yikes!!! I bet that stops
>lots of us ;]

I went into the local Shack store today (Manhattan Beach, CA) and
asked about the downconverters.  The salesman said that they don't
carry completed models (that would violate the ECPA) but they do offer
a nice selection of kits.  Believe it or not, (this is new) Rat Shack
is offering Ramsey kits.  You place your order at the store and it's
mailed to you.  The Downconverter kits don't violate the ECPA because
as a kit they are harmless.  If you purchase one for the purpose of
assembling it to listen to cellular conversations then you are taking
your fate into your own hands.  If you are an experimenter who just
wnats to "study the theory of down converting frequencies" then I'm
sure that that is well within the letter of the law.

Steve

--
Steve Fischer       ][Federal Regulations prohibit a kite within 500
[e-mail]][feet of a cloud.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Wendell C. McLendon )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Does 800 mhz "translator" work?
Date: 9 Oct 1995 05:02:32 GMT
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In <457n1e$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>[e-mail] (James Dean) wrote:
>
>>A friend of mine owns a dealer store and either this RS salesman
knows
>>something we don't or he is wrong, because we can find no evidence
that
>>RS has these converters.  They used to be available from GRE, but I
think
>>most are sold out and they can't make more because of our friends in
>>congress and that nasty ban they enacted a few years back.  If you
can
>>find one though, they do work.  They just move the 800 freq's down to
400
>>which is receivable by most scanners.
>
>>Also on one point the RS salesman is undoubtedly WRONG.  This
converter
>>does NOT make it legal to monitor cellular.  That is against federal
and
>>many state laws.  In fact, Georgia passed a law this year making
cellular
>>monitoring a high misdemeanor w/ jail time.  Yikes!!! I bet that
stops
>>lots of us ;]
>
You can get them from:
Scanner World
10 New Scotland Avenue
Albany, NY 12208
[phone]

They were available in Buyer Guide #1R95 (prices in effect after April
4, 1995).  I don't know if they are in the very latest catalog.

WCM



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Marc Kortlander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2006, info needed
Date: 6 Oct 1995 22:03:10 GMT
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In article <4519a6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>        A local fellow has a Pro 2006 scanner for sale.  He says it 2.5
yrs
>old.  Does this scanner have the ability to scan celluar.  If not is
>there mods that can be done to make it celluar capable.
>        Also what freq. does celluar use.  Thanks.
>
>--
>Shane R. McCarthy
>Windsor, Ont
>[e-mail]
>
Yes it can be easily modified



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Dillon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 2006, info needed
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Shane McCarthy ([e-mail]) wrote:
:       A local fellow has a Pro 2006 scanner for sale.  He says it 2.5 yrs
: old.  Does this scanner have the ability to scan celluar.  If not is
: there mods that can be done to make it celluar capable.
:       Also what freq. does celluar use.  Thanks.

: --
: Shane R. McCarthy
: Windsor, Ont
: [e-mail]

Yes, they can all be modded to open up the locked up portions of the
800-900MHz band.

And that scanner is worth every penny even used.  I have one that i use
with many mods... sig strength, optoscan, software controlled... etc.  It
is very versatile.

DD
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:22 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Uniden BearCat 890XLTres?
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Uniden BearCat 890XLT Features?

(Continued from previous message)

class scanner in performance and ergonomics! Easy to use for beginners, and
competition-quality for professional scanner buffs, it will be hard to beat.


Sb: BC890XLT REVIEW Pt 2
Fm: Jeff Goldman [CEFORUM] 76437,1146
To: All

Just to add a few more notes to last night's review, the squelch has almost no
hysterisis, which is really great. The scanner uses a lithium battery, which
means (according to the manual) that the unit will retain info if unplugged
for 5 yrs.

And the 890XLT continues to have the Bearcat "query" feature, whereby when you
enter a freq into a channel, it'll automatically tell you if that freq is also
entered into another channel!

The VFO knob is a dual-function control, and may be used for Up/Down channel
or Up/Down freq use. An LED shows which setting is enabled. The LED dims or
goes out depending upon the Dim button setting on the scanner.


Fm: Jeff Goldman [CEFORUM] 76437,1146
To: All

Yep, another followup. Other scanners have had AutoStore before, but it was a
stupid AutoStore. The AR1500 uses Bank 9 for that purpose, and you can't put
anything in there manually evidently. If the same active freq keeps getting
scanned, it'll keep getting written into the AR1500. And if you fill up Bank
9, it'll overwrite all those other valuable freqs. And it does all this at an
incredible 18 cps.

On the other hand, I've discovered that the BC890XLT has an intelligent
AutoStore system. It does its Search at just over 100cps and will store into
ANY bank or BANKS that have some clear channels. It WON'T overwrite channels
that aren't clear. When it's done loading up those channels, it beeps and says
END. It WON'T rewrite an already AutoStored freq! I even tested this on the Wx
band where there were only a few active freqs. After 10 minutes of repeatedly
searching by the same active Wx freqs, only 2 freqs had been AutoStored... and
only ONCE! Bravo to Uniden!!

One more thing. Yes, you certainly may get intermod (like all scanners) or
images (like double conversion scanners) in the 450-470MHz range, especially
when you have pager towers and Ham repeaters in the area. With the optional
CTCSS board, say goodbye to ANY problems listening to POLICE, FIRE or EMS in
that range (naturally, as long as your local services are PL'ed)! It really,
really works.



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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:23 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Uniden BearCat 890XLTres?
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Uniden BearCat 890XLT Features?

>>Could anyone please tell me the specs on the 890XLT?

Fm: Jeff Goldman [CEFORUM] 76437,1146
To: All

(From a 1993 review of the BC-890XLT)

It is as if the Bearcat engineers checked out all of the top scanners and
decided to incorporate their best features or to improve upon their various
features. We end up with a thoroughly modern and definitely user-friendly
scanner. Only constraint was the price point they were working within; hence,
this receiver isn't continuous coverage, has only 200 channels, no
user-programmable alphanumerics, and is double conversion. No big deal to me;
I didn't want another FM radio anyway. <g>

Some of the outstanding features are its ability to do a Count of how many
hits (or times the squelch is broken) from when you turn on the scanner. If
you run a Scan, then when you check the Count it'll show how many hits for
each and every channel you scanned. Or you monitor a channel in the Manual
mode and leave the scanner in the Count screen. This constantly updates each
time the squelch is broken. It does stop counting on a channel when it hits
99.

The Dim button is actually a triple-action button which turns On, dims, and
turns Off the screen! There is a soft beep when you enter a freq. It VARIES
according to volume, and isn't obnoxious when using an earphone. The CTCSS
board (BC-002) that is used for the old BC760XLT is the same board as used in
the BC890XLT. The feature is fantastic; there are no strange side effects (ie
clipping of audio) when scanning.

While scanning, the screen scrolls the word SCAN. You do see the letters
representing the banks that are enabled and the one that it's in at the moment
is flashing. But, since the scanner uses Auto Sort, you don't see the scanner
jumping around wildly while it scans freqs in order in each of the banks. So,
I clocked the speed during a Search instead and came up with 16.6 cps in the
Normal mode, and just over 100cps in Turbo Scan mode. Unlike many RS scanners,
the word Turbo is displayed to let you know which setting you're in.

The unit has a transfer mode. This is where you can move a freq from one
channel EITHER to the first free channel in a bank you select, OR you may move
it to a previously programmed (not empty) channel of your choice. This deletes
the original channel the freq sat in.

Looks-wise, this black scanner is a killer! Everyone in my electronics class
was blown away, especially the teacher. I kept trying to tell him about the
various features (including Auto Store), but he just wanted to hear -shall we
say- interesting sounding "images". <g> These images of the you-know-what band
go UP in freq 21.6kHz (unlike the BC200XLT's 21.7MHz). On 800MHz, you may not
change to 5kHz steps, but audio quality you-know-where is just fine. No lie.
:-) I presume the restoration will be a simple desoldering of a surface-mount
resistor, similar to the mod in the new 700A. This evening, I compared the
sensitivity on 800MHz with my hot Pro 43 (with both scanners using 800MHz
antennas). They were very similar!

Audio output and quality are excellent. The speaker is on TOP. The way the
stock whip mates with the BNC connector in the back of the scanner, it never
will fall over. The Wx Search DOES include the extra 2 Canadian stations,
plus, of course, the normal 7 NOAA freqs. Wx Alert can only be used when the
scanner is left ON and set to Wx Search. The receiver is muted, and when an
alert tone sounds (yes, you can test this) it is a LOUD SIREN.

Priority is incredibly upgraded! You may choose ANY channel within a bank (up
to 10) and activate any or all. You are not forced to endure the one in the
first bank anymore if you don't want it enabled. Priority may be used in ALL
modes, including Wx Search. Like the Pro43, it remembers that you were in the
Priority mode when you turn the scanner Off and back On.

The AC adapter is hefty and is not built into the scanner. The latest version
of the Bearcat car cig lighter adapter (an option) now has a coiled cord,
which is really nice.

I've made sure that the BC890XLT still has the circuit whereby it locks onto
the center freq of a strong channel during a Search. When the unit is
monitoring a channel that has CTCSS enabled, the display alternately flashes
between the freq on the channel and the subaudible tone you've set.
Unfortunately, there's no easy way to figure out a CTCSS freq (either by doing
a PL scan or by stepping manually through all the freqs fast). That's why a
good scanner guide is a must.

Size of the scanner is similar to the RS Pro2006, and the flipdown feet are
far nicer than the RS's. thes snap into place and have rubberized bottoms.
There is an Aux function (and special RCA-type jack) to trigger a tape
recorder on a user-specified channel when it is active. This is different than
just having a built-in VOX control that keys-up on ALL transmissions!!

If you ever want to unLock all channels that are locked in a bank (aside from
zero-ed ones), just hold down L/O for a couple of seconds until you hear a
double beep. This is most convenient. Also, you may simultaneously hit SCAN 2
9 upon power-up to reset the scanner. The first 31 channels have various
freqs, though all the rest are empty and locked-out.

My first impression is that this scanner is an absolute Work of Art. This is
partially due to Uniden making the best of their many patented circuits, and
also because they took time to improve so many things. This adds up to a first

(Continued to next message)
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nadzam)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: WTB: Scanner
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 95 23:59:12 GMT
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For Sale Realistic PRO-2026
100 Channel Mobile Scanner.
I have two of these at $150 each COD Extra.
(Shipping included if pre-pay to lower 48)

Scanner Covers:
29.0 Mhz - 54Mhz
108.00 Mhz - 174.00 Mhz
406.00 Mhz - 512.00 Mhz
806.00 Mhz - 956.00 Mhz << Cell Phone Restored >>

Other Features:
Service Search Buttons. The Scanner will automaticly
scane the normal allocation frequencies when these
buttons are pressed.
They include: Police, Fire, Aircraft, Weather, and Marine.
Also has High/Low frequency search function.

100 Channels in 5 Banks of 20.

Includes Manual, and mobile mounting Bracket



------------------------------------------------
Name: Bill.Nadzam
E-mail: "Bill Nadzam" <[e-mail]>
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nadzam)
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Subject: FS: Pro-2026 Realistic Mobile Scanner.
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 95 00:01:02 GMT
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For Sale Realistic PRO-2026
100 Channel Mobile Scanner.
I have two of these at $150 each (Shipping included to lower 48)

Scanner Covers:
29.0 Mhz - 54Mhz
108.00 Mhz - 174.00 Mhz
406.00 Mhz - 512.00 Mhz
806.00 Mhz - 956.00 Mhz << Cell Phone Restored >>

Other Features:
Service Search Buttons. The Scanner will automaticly
scane the normal allocation frequencies when these
buttons are pressed.
They include: Police, Fire, Aircraft, Weather, and Marine.
Also has High/Low frequency search function.

100 Channels in 5 Banks of 20.

Includes Manual, and mobile mounting Bracket

Phone [phone]

------------------------------------------------
Name: Bill.Nadzam
E-mail: "Bill Nadzam" <[e-mail]>
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:26 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ralph.vnet.net!usenet
From: David Crawford <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Hurricnae frequencies wanted.
Date: 7 Oct 1995 12:55:31 GMT
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Could somebody please post what frequencies (dc to daylight)
were in use in the Mobile and Baldwin County areas of
Alabama during the last hurricane.

Thanks in advance.

David Crawford
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Eugene Kang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <44r7vr$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>IS-95 is the standard for CDMA.
>
>And you're quite right, N-AMPS is 10-kHz not 15-kHz as I orginally
>said.  The aim was to get 3 calls up on the same 30-kHz channel (like
>TDMA).
>
>Dan

Won't that result in a lower voice quality?




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
Date: 8 Oct 1995 11:53:28 GMT
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berton corson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Whenever it will be, I don't think it will be for a long time.  Maybe
: in the next century.  But as far as the next few years, analog
: phones will still be in the huge majority.  Reason why, these are
: the phones that retailers push, and sell like crazy, especially with
: new cellphone customers.  To get new cellphone customers service

Cellular phones should have been manufactured to run in the digital mode
from the beginning, they also should have incorporated some type of
encryption technology...Encryption technology has been used by the
military and diplomatic circles for several decades!!

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:30 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO-62
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 95 00:06:00 -0500
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LOoking for any help on mods for PRO-62 (cellular, other...)

Thanks
[e-mail]


---
KBBS V2.Z05)Crow Eagle Trading Post*Newnan,Ga* [phone]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Boscoe A. Wheeler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Another PRO-2035 Question: "Auto Store"
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 1995 17:57:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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In the manual for the PRO-2035 (on page 2) it says:

"AUTO STORE - quickly finds and automatically stores active
frequencies in channels, then searches for additional active
frequencies *while skipping previously stored channels*.

If I understand this correctly, the PRO-2035 may find that 453.785 is
active, automatically stores this frequency and then proceeds to scan
for other active frequencies *excluding* 453.785, right? In
otherwords, once it has "auto-stored" 453.785, it will not re-scan
that frequency until it is taken out of the "auto-store" mode.

If that is supposed to be correct then my new PRO-2035 is on the
fritz. It not only continues to re-scan the same frequency but stores
it as a newly found active freq as many times as it finds it active. I
had once freq. that was auto-stored over twenty times.

Is this the way that auto-store is supposed to work? (And I know, I
know... Rat Shack and all that...) I'd like to know whether this is
the proper way for the PRO-2035 to work or if I need to send it in for
repairs while it's under warranty.

Thanks for the help.


[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (MinesG)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Another PRO-2035 Question: "Auto Store"
Date: 7 Oct 1995 15:42:25 -0400
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In article <456e1u$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Boscoe A. Wheeler) writes:

>Subject: Another PRO-2035 Question: "Auto Store"
>From:  [e-mail] (Boscoe A. Wheeler)
>Date:  Sat, 07 Oct 1995 17:57:27 GMT
>
>In the manual for the PRO-2035 (on page 2) it says:
>
>"AUTO STORE - quickly finds and automatically stores active
>frequencies in channels, then searches for additional active
>frequencies *while skipping previously stored channels*.
> [rest deleted]

It's a misprint.  Just like the one in the catalog that claims the
PRO-2035 uses triple
conversion.  It does not.  The manual makes no such claims and in fact
shows the
following IF frequencies: 1st IF = 609.005 - 613.5 MHz and 2nd IF = 48.5
MHz.

The 1996 Radio Shack catalog shows the 2035's replacement the PRO-2042.
It states that the auto-store function will not duplicate stored
frequencies.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Darwin Pharo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Canadian Snowbird freqs?
Date: 7 Oct 1995 12:50:41 -0500
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   I attended a airshow last weekend that the Snowbirds were at and I
attempted at listening in on them, I had little to no sucess! Does anyone
have the most current freqs for them, if so please post so all may share!

   Thanks in advance!!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (T.J. Harrell III)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Canadian Snowbird freqs?
Date: 8 Oct 1995 22:58:02 GMT
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Darwin Pharo ([e-mail]) wrote:

:    I attended a airshow last weekend that the Snowbirds were at and I
: attempted at listening in on them, I had little to no sucess! Does anyone
: have the most current freqs for them, if so please post so all may share!

Second the request here.  Last time I tried (with the freqs. on my page),
I got the same level of success.

T.J.
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| T.J. Harrell III  [e-mail]  |   _\|   /\  |/_
| NRA  KC5KTO       [e-mail]  |      \ /  \ /
| Scanning, ham radio, and more:          |       /    \
| http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~thharrel/       |      /______\


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:34 1995
From: [e-mail] (Thomas Bernie)
Subject: FULL 800:  MOST NEW SCANNERS
Date: 7 Oct 95 00:17:11 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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THE CELLULAR SECURITY GROUP NOW INSTALLS VIRTUAL DOWN-CONVERTERS IN
THE FOLLOWING SCANNERS:  PRO-23, PRO-26, PRO-29, PRO-51, PRO-2035,
PRO2042, BC-220, BC-860. BC-8500, BC-9000.  CPU CONTROL IS BY-PASSED
TURNING ON 800 FRONT END WITH L.O. ON A LOWER BAND . . .
DOWN-CONVERSION!  FULL SENSITIVITY, ON-CHANNEL STEPS.  E-MAIL  OR
CALL FOR DETAILS.  617-281-8892.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:35 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas W. Demers)
Subject: Re: FULL 800:  MOST NEW SCANNERS
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (Thomas W. Demers)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 21:26:30 GMT
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Easy on the CAPS dude......
--
Life's to short to worry...  :)


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (WFDMED32)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Orlanda area frequencies
Date: 7 Oct 1995 14:07:37 -0400
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I'm making a trip to Orlando and would like to obtain the Orlando, Orange
County and Walt Disney World (Reedy Creek FD) frequencies.  Either post or
E-mail me at WFDMED32 @ aol.com


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:37 1995
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From: Mark Smith <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Hamilton, NJ Channel 6
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 95 16:20:10 EDT
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Does anyone know the frequency for Hamilton, NJ (Mercer County) for channel 6?

They've recently started using it, and I haven't been able to search and catch
it when it's in use.

Mark




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:38 1995
From: [e-mail] (gary Bouwkamp)
Subject: RE: Detroit, Mich. Frequencies
Date: 7 Oct 95 21:31:22 -0700
References: <[e-mail]>
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Here you go Scott,

I'll trade you these for some Windsor freqs.  Never a dull moment
with Detroit Police.
My favorite is the Tactical Services channel F-11 and the special
events channel F-5.  Let me know what Windsor freqs you listen to.

Gary
N8HMP



Detroit Police Department (DPD)
-------------------------------
453.350 F-1 Precincts 1 (Downtown), 3 (Vernor), 4 (Lafayette-Green), Fox
            Theatre
453.750 F-2 Precincts 2 (Schaefer), 10 (Livernois)
453.300 F-3 Precincts 7 (Mack), 13 (Woodward), 16 (City of Highland Park),
            Belle Isle (Harbormaster), New Center, Masonic Theatre
453.800 F-4 Precincts 11 (Davison), 12 (Palmer Park)
453.550 F-5 Primary Car-to-Car, Special Events
453.250 F-6 Precincts 6 (Plymouth), 8 (Grand River)
453.700 F-7 Precincts 5 (Jefferson), 9 (Gratiot)
453.325 F-8 Detectives' Desks (i.e. Homicide, Sex Crimes, etc)
453.375 F-9 Alternate Car-to-Car, Tiger Stadium units
453.425 F-10 Tactical
453.875 F-11 City-wide Tactical Units (including K-9 units)
453.925 F-12 Command, Phone patch
453.975 F-13 Surveillance, Detectives
453.775      Cobo Hall, Renaissance Center, City County Bldg,
             Greektown, Joe Louis Arena, Hart Plaza


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Furmaguax)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RE: Detroit, Mich. Frequencies
Date: 10 Oct 1995 05:19:08 -0400
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   Don't forget your scanner on Devil's Night, the night before halloween.
Command channels are usually F-9 to F-13, but you will hear fire calls on
Public Works and any other city channels. The media seems to downplay it
but the  scanner stays pretty active.  Hopefully this year you won't hear
as much.


                                                 PJ Healy


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From: [e-mail] (Michelle Foien)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: New AOR8000; some questions.
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 1995 22:01:10 GMT
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Just got an AR8000 and have two questions regarding the unit.

In the manual it says "Always use the mains charger provided or a
regulated DC power supply of 13.8V @ 300mA or more using the provided
DC connectin lead.  NEVER CONNECT THE AR8000 DIRECTLY TO THE MAINS
SUPPLY. "    What does this mean?  That I can't use the power supply
provided and it's sole purpose is for charging the batteries?  I
thought I could just run it off this with no batteries.  It is rated
at 12vdc @ 300mA and in the manual the power requirements are 11-16vdc
@ 300mA.  Why won't it work.

Has anyone figured out how to unblock it?  I saw some software that
would, but I really have no need for new software.  Is there a file
floating around to unblock it?

Thanx.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Stan lui)
Subject: Re: <<<<<<<<< FS mint PRO 2006 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Susan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <44c8g1$[e-mail]>,
: Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >[e-mail] (Susan) wrote:
: >>>offers.
: >>>
: >>>Hmmm...no price?  Must be afraid of The Price Police! <g>
robably so.

: >>>
: >>>-Drew in Charlotte-
: >>
: >>
: >>---- Once again "Drew in Charlotte" has so much to add to this group ----
: >
: >>
: >>Thanks Drew.
: >>
: >>No Really , Thanks.
: >
: >Just commenting that it would be useful to include the price with the
: >post.  If someone were interested in purchasing the item, the price WOULD
: >be a nice thing to know, don't you think?

Senn another post just like this "best offer" ... Drew some comments from
others .. :: >-Drew in Charlotte-
: > KF4DDM
: >

: Just to wrap this up, the article read:

: "Currently taking best offers"

: That means people send their offers and that's what sets the price.

: So .... Once again ... Thanks.

How about REC.RADIO.AUCTION. Waste of time responding to post like these.
Try the "ethical" way of setting a price.Hmmmmmm better put on my "flame
proof" suit.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (David Blake)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Q: Ground Wave Network Towers?
Date: 7 Oct 1995 19:19:10 -0400
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Apparently these are somekind of towers that send out a low line signal for

transmission or other things.  Radar/sonar or whatever, can not detect this

kind of transmission because it is very close to the ground.

Since this is currently being done and there is very little talk about it,
I'm
wondering what affect it'll have on the the human body, [healthwise].

.\\ichael



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Q: Ground Wave Network Towers?
Followup-To: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Date: 8 Oct 1995 04:13:35 GMT
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David Blake ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Apparently these are somekind of towers that send out a low line signal for

: transmission or other things.  Radar/sonar or whatever, can not detect this

: kind of transmission because it is very close to the ground.
:
: Since this is currently being done and there is very little talk about it,
: I'm
: wondering what affect it'll have on the the human body, [healthwise].

Nope. They are ultra-low frequency signals - which travel through the ground.
Propogation through the air is very poor. Unless you spend your time buried
up to your neck in the ground, it is not going to affect you - assuming that
you do not live close to the transmitter site.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim West)
Subject: Re: Q: Ground Wave Network Towers?
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

>Nope. They are ultra-low frequency signals - which travel through the ground.
>Propogation through the air is very poor. Unless you spend your time buried
>up to your neck in the ground, it is not going to affect you - assuming that
>you do not live close to the transmitter site.

>Bill


I'd like to know more about these signals. What the're used for, who
uses them, how to monitor them, etc. Can anybody point me to somewhere
on the net where I can learn about them?

Jim West



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Hammon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Old Cheap Scanner (Pro 2011)
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 1995 18:55:04 -0500
Organization: Dr Human, Inc
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NNTP-Posting-Host: stemmons08.onramp.net

I have an old Pro 2011 scanner collecting dust around here.  It is a 512MHz
desktop model.  It's still good for checking *your* baby monitor or just
making sure *your* cordless phone is transmitting properly.  ;-)
$50 or make an offer.  You can add the 800MHz converter and have a pretty
cheap rig.

Thanks,
Bill Hammon
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: WAVE for Macintosh
Date: 8 Oct 1995 01:05:40 GMT
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Does anybody know where I can download the demo for WAVE?  I wrote
[e-mail] twice, but have not received a response.  Does he still
have this account?...If anybody has a copy of the demo, could they just
e-mail it to me?

-Dennis
 [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Chiasson)
Subject: Decibel loss of adaptor / connector?
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What is the decibel loss (attenuation) of an adaptor and connector?
Does it vary with frequency like coaxial cables do?
Are there better ones than others?


G.C.




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From: James Fuhr <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Decibel loss of adaptor / connector?
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 95 22:12:50 CDT
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In Article<[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> write:
>
> What is the decibel loss (attenuation) of an adaptor and connector?
> Does it vary with frequency like coaxial cables do?

>
Most of the time you can consider 1 db of loss per connector or splice.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nadzam)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS: Realistic Pro-2026 Mobile Scanner.
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 95 22:11:40 GMT
Organization: garlic.com
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For Sale Realistic PRO-2026
100 Channel Mobile Scanner.
I have two of these at $150 each
Shipping included to lower 48.

Swaps for other radio goodies will be considered.
I don't need any computer gear.

Scanner Covers:
29.0 Mhz - 54Mhz
108.00 Mhz - 174.00 Mhz
406.00 Mhz - 512.00 Mhz
806.00 Mhz - 956.00 Mhz << Cell Phone Restored >>

Other Features:
Service Search Buttons. The Scanner will automaticly
scane the normal allocation frequencies when these
buttons are pressed.
They include: Police, Fire, Aircraft, Weather, and Marine.
Also has High/Low frequency search function.

100 Channels in 5 Banks of 20.

Includes Manual, and mobile mounting Bracket.
Radio Shack still sells the PRO-2026 for $250 new, but
that unit can not be modified to receive Cell phone.



------------------------------------------------
Name: Bill.Nadzam
E-mail: "Bill Nadzam" <[e-mail]>
------------------------------------------------



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Borthwick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: New Web Page
Date: 8 Oct 1995 03:47:12 GMT
Organization: University of Queensland
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Try Out A New Web Page At http://www.uq.oz.au/~bgmborth and tell me what
you think!

Its mainly concerned with amateur radio, but a scanner page has been
added and will be updated every month!

please leave your comments at [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:50 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Lou Milrad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: New Web Page
Date: 9 Oct 1995 08:52:17 -0400
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You wil want to note the new URL location which is now:

http://www.uq.edu.au:80/~bgmborth/


Lou Milrad
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:51 1995
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From: Eric Smith <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Antennas for Hand held Scanners
Date: 8 Oct 1995 04:37:53 GMT
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I have one of the new Radio Shack Pro-60 scanners.  It gets very good
reception but I was wondering if there is any type of antenna that I
could use to boost my reception.  I live in a townhouse and do not have
access to any type of outside antenna.  I have tried a mobile antenna
with the magnetic base without much luck.  Also tried a mini TV antenna
that Radio Shack featured in one of their mags...no luck either.  Someone
told me that I should not waste my time since the antenna that came with
the unit has been "tuned" for the scanner.

Should I give up and stick with what I have?  I have the luxury of living
near LA so I get a wealth of frequencies.  Maybe I should just leave well
enough alone......



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Antennas for Hand held Scanners
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 14:58:33 -0400
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Try the RS whip for $10. That works better than most things that I've
used. I also have a Diamond RH77, which sells for about $30, and the RS
whip is at least as useful for the sorts of things that I listen to.

In article <457kj1$[e-mail]>, Eric Smith
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> I have one of the new Radio Shack Pro-60 scanners.  It gets very good
> reception but I was wondering if there is any type of antenna that I
> could use to boost my reception.  I live in a townhouse and do not have
> access to any type of outside antenna.  I have tried a mobile antenna
> with the magnetic base without much luck.  Also tried a mini TV antenna
> that Radio Shack featured in one of their mags...no luck either.  Someone
> told me that I should not waste my time since the antenna that came with
> the unit has been "tuned" for the scanner.
>
> Should I give up and stick with what I have?  I have the luxury of living
> near LA so I get a wealth of frequencies.  Maybe I should just leave well
> enough alone......

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]
_____________________________________________________________________Coming to a bookstore near you in November:
The Underground Guide to Computer Security, by Michael Alexander;
published by Addison-Wesley Publishing Company.

"He's lost enough data to fill a small black hole."
_____________________________________________________________________


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: simple question regarding the Pro-2020
Date: 8 Oct 1995 04:25:07 GMT
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  I have been looking for my manual for my Radio Shack Pro-2020 scanner
for two days now and I have given up. I need the instruction on how to
program in "search". I also tryed every way I know how but I must be
leaving a step out..Thanks..Hope someone can help..Jeff


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gene Kelley )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: simple question regarding the Pro-2020
Date: 8 Oct 1995 11:01:43 GMT
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In <457jr3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeff Hall)
writes:
>
>  I have been looking for my manual for my Radio Shack Pro-2020
scanner
>for two days now and I have given up. I need the instruction on how to

>program in "search". I also tryed every way I know how but I must be
>leaving a step out..Thanks..Hope someone can help..Jeff


Press PROGRAM, LIMIT, then put in the low end frequency, press ENTER,
press LIMIT, put in the high end frequency, press ENTER, then press
either the UP od DOWN ARROW keys.

GK

[e-mail]

"I came.........I saw..........I scanned!!"


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:54 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: For Sale: Pro 34 (cellular restored)
Date: 8 Oct 1995 06:55:05 GMT
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I have a Pro 34  200 channel Handheld scanner for sale.
The cellular has been restored !
The scanner come with rubber-duckie Ant. & extra metal
antenna for long range. The scanner has rechargable
Ni-Cad batteries with recharger/A.C. adaptor. Comes with
owner's manual and list of other mods. that can be done.
Price $ 150. I WILL PAY SHIPPING COST BY FIRST CLASS
MAIL & THE C.O.D. FEE. This means that not only am I reasonable,
but you can have scanner in two days.
Scanner is in PERFECT condictions. Works great.
Please E-Mail if interested.
[e-mail]
Thanks,
Tom Blanchard



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:55 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: For Sale: Pro 34 (cellular restored)
Date: 8 Oct 1995 17:38:26 GMT
Organization: Tri-Cities Connection
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>   [e-mail] writes:
>  I have a Pro 34  200 channel Handheld scanner for sale.
>  The cellular has been restored !
>  The scanner come with rubber-duckie Ant. & extra metal
>  antenna for long range. The scanner has rechargable
>  Ni-Cad batteries with recharger/A.C. adaptor. Comes with
>  owner's manual and list of other mods. that can be done.
>  Price $ 150. I WILL PAY SHIPPING COST BY FIRST CLASS
>  MAIL & THE C.O.D. FEE. This means that not only am I reasonable,
>  but you can have scanner in two days.
>  Scanner is in PERFECT condictions. Works great.
>  Please E-Mail if interested.
>  [e-mail]
>  Thanks,
>  Tom Blanchard
>
>
>>>>
THE SCANNER HAS BEEN SOLD !
Thanks to all that sent me E-Mail.
To be fair, I sold it to the first reply I recieved.
Regards,
Tom Blanchard



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:56 1995
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From: Scott Van Aartsen <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Other countries where scanners are legal . . .
Date: 8 Oct 1995 02:32:43 GMT
Organization: Northwestern College
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Just curious -- and someone must know . . .

But why is it that we only ever see posts from people from the United
States, and occasionally Canada, G.B. and the Netherlands on this
newsgroup?  Are scanners illegal in most other countries?

73 de Scott



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Other countries where scanners are legal . . .
Date: 8 Oct 1995 12:19:07 GMT
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Scott Van Aartsen ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Just curious -- and someone must know . . .

: But why is it that we only ever see posts from people from the United
: States, and occasionally Canada, G.B. and the Netherlands on this
: newsgroup?  Are scanners illegal in most other countries?

: 73 de Scott

YOu probably can take ascanner into Germany without any Problem, However
if you leave Germany and have a scanner in your pocket on clipped to your
belt, the airport security will get a bit excited. I brought a Scanner
with me as well as my SONY-2010 shortwave. No problem in Frankfurt where
I changed planes to go to Hamburg. On the flight from Stuttgart back to
the US, I had to negotiate with airport security, airline represenatives,
and also airport police..finally, I gave them the scanner, they put it in
a pouch that was carried in the cockpit. When I came through customs, I
had to find an airline represenative with a pouch with my name on it..my
scanner  was inside, the batteries had been removed...

JOHN


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:58 1995
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From: "B. Edginton" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Other countries where scanners are legal . . .
Date: 10 Oct 1995 09:18:28 GMT
Organization: University of Queensland
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Scott Van Aartsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Just curious -- and someone must know . . .
>
>But why is it that we only ever see posts from people from the United
>States, and occasionally Canada, G.B. and the Netherlands on this
>newsgroup?  Are scanners illegal in most other countries?
>
>73 de Scott
>
No problems in Australia...cellphone coverage is legal but you musnt
listen
Brian



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:41:59 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Denton)
Subject: How to Get Free Cable Premium TV .. LEGIT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: GoodNet
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 12:18:15 GMT
Lines: 33

      First I want to say I am sorry that this has nothing
to do with the topic of this group. You may see this
message in other newsgroups, the reason is I am subscribed
to those too so please don't flame me. I have been posting
and reading to this group for a while. I just wanted to
let you people out know there is a way to get Cable TV for
FREE. I recieve this letter in the mail from a friend
that had told me it works. I gave this to one of my friends
and he had free cable in his house within 20 mins. I have not
tried this method yet but may soon try if my cable goes up in
price. If anyone would like a copy send the following to the
address below.

Address Envelope to:

FreeStuff
9393 N. 90th St.
Suite 102-289
Scottsdale, AZ  85258

Enclose in the envelope:

Send...

    $1.00 U.S MONEY    *** NO COINS *** NO CHECKS ***
 inside a sheet of carbon paper or construction paper,
 and send a *self-addressed*,*stamped* envelope to the
 address above.


Thanxs,
Just think if you pay 30$ + a month. 1$ will save
you 359 + dollars a year.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (BucherJ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 1000's of mods
Date: 8 Oct 1995 03:56:51 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Lines: 80
Sender: [e-mail]
Message-ID: <458083$[e-mail]>
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  Over the years I have aquired many easy and hard to find HAM & SCANNER
mods.  Below is a small listing of some of the items I have mods for, just
because it isn't listed doesn't mean that I don't have a mod.  Please
e-mail me at [e-mail] with the Make and Model of the item you are
looking for and I will send back what type of modifications we have for
that item.  If you decided that you need this mod then all I ask for is a
small fee of $5 for the information.

Note: These mods are furnished for informational purposes only, any
changes that you make to your equipment may void the warranty and be
illegal.

HAM & SCANNER
========
AEA
MX6S/MX28S,PK87/88,PK232/SAT

ALINCO
ALR-22T,ALR-24T,DJ-100T,DJ-160T,DJ-460T,DJ-500T,DJ-510T,DJ-580T,DR110T/DR1
20/DR1200,DR510,DR570T,DR590T

AOR
1000

AZDEN
PCS300,PCS4000,PCS6000

BEARCAT
BC50XLT/55XLT,BC100XLT,BC140,BC175,200XLT/205XLT,250XLT,760XLT,855XLT,780X
LT/950XLT,890XLT,2500XLT,MR8100

DFI
MS400

DIGICOM
C.A.R.S

ICOM
10,12AT,1271,02AT/2A,2GAT,2GXAT,2SAT,21AT,22A,S,2340H,24AT,2400,271,28A,H,
281H,3200,3220A/H,32AT,37,4AT,47,471,720,725,735,740,745,751a,761,900,901,M
-700,R7000,R71A,W2A,W21AT,Z1A

KAM

KDK
2016

KENWOOD
TH-215A,TH22AT,TH25AT,TH26AT,TH-2600-A,TH-28A,TH42AT,TH45AT,TH721A,TH731A,
TH75A,TH77A,TH-78,TH79A,KEN940

MFJ
1270,1274,1278

RANGER
2950,2970

REALISTIC
HTX100,HTX202,HTX404,PRO23,PRO32,PRO34,PRO37,PRO38,PRO39,PRO41,PRO43,PRO46
,PRO51,PRO2002,PRO2004,PRO2005,PRO2006,PRO2020,PRO2021,PRO2022,PRO2026,PRO2
027/9,PRO2030,PRO2032

REGENCY
MX4000/MX4200,MX5000/MX7000

STANDARD
C508,525,558,5608

UNIDEN
HR-2510(LINCOLN),HR-2600

WILSON
MARK 2,4,(CAP & MARS)

YAESU
FT101,b,e,ee,FT11r,FT209rh,FT211rh,FT212rh,FT23h,FT2700rh,FT301,FT411,e,FT
470,FT51r,FT5100,FT530,FT70,FT726,FT727r,FT736,FT747,FT757,FT767,FT900,FT98
0,FT990/FT1000




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:01 1995
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From: Paul Richards <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 1000's of mods
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 95 14:44:42 GMT
Lines: 19
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <438mio$[e-mail]> <458083$[e-mail]>
Reply-To: [e-mail]
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: hitech.demon.co.uk
X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29

In article <458083$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "BucherJ" writes:

>   Over the years I have aquired many easy and hard to find HAM & SCANNER
> mods.  Below is a small listing of some of the items I have mods for, just
> because it isn't listed doesn't mean that I don't have a mod.  Please
> e-mail me at [e-mail] with the Make and Model of the item you are
> looking for and I will send back what type of modifications we have for
> that item.  If you decided that you need this mod then all I ask for is a
> small fee of $5 for the information.
>

Alternatively, many of these mods can be downloaded from the ham radio
archives at Buffalo - or found on the QRZ ham radio CDROM.

Paul

--
Paul Richards


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Richard J. Lemay)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO-27 Mods?
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 11:32:17 GMT
Organization: Home Office
Lines: 10
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X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

A friend of mine has a PRO-27 which seems to tune in the cellular
range but specificaly avoid those frequencies.  Would any one know if
it is restorable?  If so, is it an involved modification or is it just
clipping a diode lead like on my 2006.

Thanks,

Richard.




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: frequency searches
Date: 8 Oct 1995 11:42:39 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct, Inc.
Lines: 15
Message-ID: <458dff$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bud.indirect.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

If you need frequencies, I'll do a search for by state, user, or area
(lat/long required for this)

I write the results onto a floppy in .DBF format that can be read by most
popular database programs (Foxpro, Dbase..etc)  Each search can yield
more than 10,000 responses!

I do charge a small fee for the search, this covers the cost of the disk
as well as some other associated costs.

send your search requests to:

JA MORAN P.O. BOX 25506, Tempe, Az 85285

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: cellular listening is FUN!!
Date: 8 Oct 1995 11:51:31 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct, Inc.
Lines: 28
Message-ID: <458e03$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bud.indirect.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

contrary to what some say, it's not that difficult to monitor cellular,
cordless, and other mobile phone conversations. On some radios you can
get the harmonics while on others (like the three radios I have), you can
monitor the frequencies directly.

Usually, Just when a conversation gets interesting, the call is handed
off to another cell site!

If the phone companies, cellular carriers, and phone manufacturers really
had privacy in mind when they designed and marketed these things, then
they should have  designed the phones to send the voice calls in digital
format. Also, they should have designed some way to encrypt the Phones
ESN (Electronic Serial Number). Some people monitor calls to get the ESN
then `clone' phones so they can make `free' calls.

All this business about it being illegal to monitor cellular calls is a
smoke screen. The cellular manufacturers, carriers, and vendors are
trying to make up for their effort to save a few bucks by not designing
the phones to transmit in ditital mode! Encryption technology is not new,
it's been used by the military and diplomatic circles for several decades!!

You want cellular Frequencies, and cell layout plans! I'll send you a
list if you send me a SASE JA MORAN P.O. Box 25506 Tempe, Az 85285!!!

I can also include a program that will tell you the channel number and
mobile frequency if you enter the base frequency!!

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:05 1995
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From: Noodle <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.scanner,alt.revenge
Subject: Re: ***The CrookBook***
Date: 8 Oct 1995 12:10:53 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Lines: 12
Message-ID: <458f4d$[e-mail]>
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I mailed the  guy, "spyking," and got back the initial plug for the
book, plus the table of contents. I have a huge collection of files on
this kind of stuff, so wasn't very surprised by the selection; it appears
to be a collection of philes. This had to happen. Argh. But anyway, while
the usual stuff about carding, etc., is in there, there's a few subjects,
like cheating a scantron test that I have never read about, and would
only hope that they would have more validity than the countless hacks for
machines that are out there, and rarely work. For $75, it's a good deal
for someone who doesn't want to spend months getting all the right
files, but a little too much for someone who has them.
Grade: B-



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:06 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.isl.net!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Dan Case)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanner Antenna
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 12:43:13 GMT
Organization: Information Superhighways Limited
Lines: 4
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Looking for suggestions on an antenna that performs well in the
30-160Mhz range.  Also, where could I mail order the antenna?  Not too
concerned about the price.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:07 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!news.kei.com!intac!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Frank Geluso)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner Antenna
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 23:21:38 GMT
Organization: INTAC Access Corporation - An Internet Service Provider
Lines: 10
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[e-mail] (Dan Case) wrote:

RS Telescoping Unit $9.95.

>Looking for suggestions on an antenna that performs well in the
>30-160Mhz range.  Also, where could I mail order the antenna?  Not too
>concerned about the price.





From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JimA119256)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Charging batteries
Date: 8 Oct 1995 09:23:13 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Just purchased some 900 ma rechargeable batteries at a Ham show. The
person selling the batteries also sold me a 100ma charge said that was the
one to charge these batteries. He said it should take about 10 hours. My
question is did I get taken on the charger? I am not out much $4.00 but
wonder if I should be looking for another charger.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (SBacker684)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC140 cell mod
Date: 8 Oct 1995 15:27:50 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Step 4) Near 30 pin IC that says "uniden" is a diode with insulating
tubing on its leads. One end is connected to the top side of the board,
and the other goes over the edge of the board..."

My BC140 has no such Diode, anyone have a different mod?

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:09 1995
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From: [e-mail] (SBacker684)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC140 cell mod
Date: 8 Oct 1995 18:52:24 -0400
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This is NOT a cell mod. It is a mod to add more channels. Sorry!

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:10 1995
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From: Chris Hardt <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Where find Scanfan in SoCAL?
Date: 8 Oct 1995 13:31:22 GMT
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
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To: [e-mail]

I have seen it before at Ham Radio Outlet but its been a
while. You probably would be better off ordering it from the
publisher. They also market a plastic notebook sheet with major
freqs. whicn is handy. You might also check with Bob Kelty who
owns Mobile Radio Resources who has a number of freq. books
that are the best in CA. These are also available on floppy
disks.

Mobile Radio Resources
2661 Carol Drive
San Jose, CA
95125
408.292.4342 (might be old area code)

You might check with Scanners Unlimited in San Carlos, CA.
This is the best scanner store in CA. and has a large selection
of scanner books. Hopefully this is some help.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Yvonne Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Papal Visit
Date: 8 Oct 1995 14:26:16 GMT
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I am looking for frequencies in the Baltimore area to Monitor the Popes
visit. Thanks in adsvance, Phil



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Woody Harper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Unidentified Music Broadcast
Date: 8 Oct 1995 14:33:58 GMT
Organization: Primenet [phone]
Lines: 13
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Hi all. I do my scanning in Phoenix, Arizona and stumbled across
something I have not heard before. On 928.9125 I receive strong music
broadcasts. There is no DJ or commercials and the music is a wide mix of
eras but is all pretty mellow. I am assuming this is some sort of "Muzak"
type of thing but am not sure. Anyone else out there encounter this type
of broadcast?

Woody KC7???

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.primenet.com/~lager



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (SRace81385)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC-350A mods
Date: 8 Oct 1995 13:34:54 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Does anyone know if there are any mods for the BC-350A scanner?  Was
wondering if there was anything for modification to 800MHZ.

Thanks,
Steve
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:13 1995
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From: Carl Quick <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 43 priority?
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 14:29:18 -0700
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--
----------------------------------------------------------
                        |
  Carl Quick            |         "Small Change got rained on
 [e-mail] |          with his own 38"
 [e-mail]           |                     ---Tom Waits---
------------------------|                     circa late 70's

-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:14 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!woodybbs!1-3821-7-0!blake.bowers
From: [e-mail] (Blake Bowers)
Date: 06 Oct 95 17:44:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: cell phones...
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
X-FTN-To: Bill Nelson
Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc.
Lines: 23

 From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
 BN> Subject: Re: Cell phones...
 BN> Organization: CS Outreach Services, Oregon State University,
 BN> Corvallis, OR, USA
 BN> Dan A. Balogh ([e-mail]) wrote:

 BN> This is wrong. The frequency assignments are made on a specific plan,
 BN> and are permanent. Nor are the plans propriatory - but are the same for
 BN> every vendor.
Absolutely not.  The frequency assignments are not permanent.  They can be
changed at any time.

... Catch the Blue Wave!

---
 * Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] *

--
|Fidonet:  Blake Bowers 1:3821/7
|Internet: [e-mail]
|
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:15 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!brutus.bright.net!find1-cs-2.dial.bright.net!n8zrp
From: [e-mail] (Brad Steinman, N8ZRP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wide band RX amplifier recommendations
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:44:49 GMT
Organization: bright.net
Lines: 27
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: find1-cs-2.dial.bright.net
Keywords: amp

I am looking for a widebanded RX amplifier and would like some
reccomendations.  It will be used in a rural environment so overload is not
a problem.

I would like the following specs...


Actual RF amplification performed at antenna
Adjustable gain
30Mhz - 470 Mhz (or higher) coverage
Integrated selectable FM BCB trap
Relatively low noise gain


I've seen the RS amps, but was hoping that there was better amplifiers for
the dollar.  As these were built for US/Can TV reception, I think these will
only amplify freqs >54Mhz; and I would like the 45Mhz PS band to also be
amplified.

Any further info on the RS amps and/or other brands would be greatly
appreciated!

Thanks!

Brad Steinman, N8ZRP
Internet:  [e-mail]
AMPRNet :  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:16 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!novia!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Wayne Joyner)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: SouthWest Airlines, Indianapolis and O'Hare Airports
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 1995 20:48:29 GMT
Organization: Novia Internetworking <> 28.8kbps dialup; 402/390-2NET
Lines: 78
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Xref: news.epix.net alt.radio.scanner:24454 rec.radio.scanner:39380

todd.rosenthal.<[e-mail] (Todd Rosenthal
<[e-mail]>) wrote:

>Path: holonet!colossus.holonet.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.
>      uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu!trosenth
>From: Todd Rosenthal <[e-mail]>
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>Xref: holonet!colossus.holonet.net alt.radio.scanner:10778 rec.radio.scanner:
>      26600


>I am flying this weekend on Southwest Airlines. Does anyone have the
>frequencies for their ground crew, etc?? Also anyone have frequencies for
>Indianapolis or OHare Airports???


>     -Todd Rosenthal

The following are some to try:

Indianapolis International
-----------------------------------------

Approach/Departure
119.3000
124.6500 west of active runway
127.1500 east of active runway

Auto Terminal Info Service
125.3000

Clearance Delivery
128.7500
257.8000

Departure Control
119.5000 West

Ground Control
121.8000
121.9000

Pre-Taxi Clearance
128.7500

Tower
120.9000
257.8000
123.9500

Unicom
122.9500 Controlled Field

Flieght Service Station
116.3000
122.1000

Ground Support
American Airlines       460.7750        Repeater
Comair          460.6750 Mobile/Portable
Delta           460.8250 Repeater
Eastern         460.7500 Repeater
Northwest       460.8000 Base
                465.8000 Mobile/Portable
TransWorld      460.6750 Repeater
                460.8500 Base
United          460.7250  Repeater
USAir           460.7000 Mobile/Portable
                460.8750        Repeater


Bruce Wayne Joyner, ECNE
Internet   :[e-mail]
CompuServe : 71513.131
Omaha, NE



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:16 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!matlock.mindspring.com!usenet
From: (Mega)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Mod for Pro-49?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 00:34:58 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
Lines: 6
Message-ID: <459h0d$[e-mail]>
NNTP-Posting-Host: dgcurtis.mindspring.com
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99.82

Anyone have the mod for the Pro-49?

TIA,

Mega



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Laughlin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wrestling frequencies?
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 95 19:22:52 GMT
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To start off, yes I know its a stage show but out of curiosity
does anyone know the frequencies(if any?) used by WWF or WCW at
their in-house wrestling shows? And do most arenas allow portable
scanners into the event?


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Wayne Joyner)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanning in an Apartment?
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 02:11:46 GMT
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[e-mail] (foxcat) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>(Paulo Teixeira,N3MGA) wrote:

>>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>>(Andy) wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone have any recommendations for me regarding antenna options in a
>>>top-floor apartment.  I'm not allowed any outdoor antennas.  What are my
>>>options to increase my receive range?  I'd consider something on the floor
>>>of the deck or something for a window shelf inside.
>>>
>>>Andy
>>
>I bought a RS magnet mount mobile antenna (Part # 20-012). It serves three
>purposes. I can use
>it on either car I drive and when I'm not driving it sits in my window. I
>get broad
>coverage. Probably 500 square miles depending which room its in. It stands
>36" high.

>I also have the telescoping antenna (Part # 20-006), but on a hand held
>scanner it becomes delicately topheavy.


>Andy
>[e-mail]

>"what can possibly go wrong... go wrong... go wrong..."

I have the Radio Shack magnetic mount antenna also in the townhouse
I'm renting. I set it on top of my file cabinet. works great. I have
to admit though, I also have the discone antenna in the attic of my
garage which works much better.
Bruce Wayne Joyner, ECNE
Internet   :[e-mail]
CompuServe : 71513.131
Omaha, NE



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (T▓)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RS 2006 Scanner for Sale
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:45:12 UNDEFINED
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services   [phone]
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I have  two RS Pro 2006 scanners and want to sell one so I can purchase a Opto
OS 456 board and software to install in the other.  The scanner is is good
condition, and the price is $275.00 plus shipping.  If interested, please send
E-Mail.

THANKS!



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mr.News)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ripoff Warning,CPU Consultants!
Date: 9 Oct 1995 06:31:26 GMT
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In article <44pua0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>There is a company thats been advertising in various scanner mags
>offering frequency lists,BEWARE ITS A SCAM.
>
>CPU Computer Consultants
>301 Union Ave,#376
>Altoon,Pa


What makes it a scam???

How do they "rippoff" people???

Please don't just make a blanket statement...

Give us some facts so we can make up our own minds.

Thanks!

Mr.News

_________________________________________________________________________
Standard Disclaimer: BITE ME!!!
_________________________________________________________________________



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:21 1995
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From: Mike Fink <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Ripoff Warning,CPU Consultants!
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 19:08:58 -0400
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
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On Sun, 8 Oct 1995, Mr.News wrote:

> In article <44pua0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >There is a company thats been advertising in various scanner mags
> >offering frequency lists,BEWARE ITS A SCAM.
> >
> >CPU Computer Consultants
> >301 Union Ave,#376
> >Altoon,Pa
>
>
> What makes it a scam???
>
> How do they "rippoff" people???
>
  I paid for my product and never got it,and received no response
to my follow up later.

Mike



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James Dean)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack Con Job?
Date: 9 Oct 1995 06:58:34 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
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I was in the dealer store I previously mentioned owned by a friend of
mine today when a gentleman came in regarding his 440mhz RS handheld.
During our recent storms here in Atlanta, it seems someone took the
opportunity to liberate his radio, but they did not get the battery or
antenna, so he wanted RS stores in the area to be on the look out for it.


He had a copy of the police report, but when we looked, we noticed that
it said "serial number unknown".  I asked him about this, and he had
written the number down in the manual, and had lost it, so he had no idea
what the s/n was.  He then told us that if ANYONE came in with one of
these radios, we were to hold it so he could come identify it.  I asked
if it had any telltale scratches, dents, etc, by which to id the radio,
but it didn't.  When I pointed out that, in the absence of a serial
number, it would be almost impossible to sieze somoene's radio, he became
belligerent and stormed out before I could explain that we would get a
name and id before ordering the battery, and, if possible, a license
plate # to try to locate the radio.

Oh well, another day at RS
You've got questions, we've got stuff
-
  JAMES DEAN KD4USF  [e-mail]
  Yes that's really my name.




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike McCarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack Con Job?
Date: 9 Oct 1995 19:38:17 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corporation, Plano, Texas USA
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In article <44rshl$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
)>Just curious how much longer this thread is going to continue.  It
)>seems to me that if everyone of your are so knowledgeable in what RS
)>sells, then you should be able to march right in, find what you need,
)>pay for it and march right out without speaking to a droid.
)
)This is what I always try to do, but it's simply not possible.  If you
)even glance at anything of value, the sales droid immediately pounces on
)you like flies on you-know-what!!  Even after you give the standard "just
)looking" response, the droid continues to hang around, give a sales pitch,
) and offer (usually incorrect) advice.

There are two distinctly different reasons that compel one to talk to
the salesmen:

        not all R.S. have the same layout internally, forcing one to ask
        "where do you keep the ..."

        each of the salesmen must be individually told no further help
        is needed

But see my earlier posts on R.S. making a profit instead of going out of
business.

Mike
----
char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}

I don't speak for DSC.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] ()
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack Con Job?
Date: 10 Oct 1995 08:45:58 GMT
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  Yes the salesmen annoy the fuck out of me.  When I bought my scanner
a while ago, the drone tried to shove a service plan down my throat for about
$60, to cover it for repairs if it gets "hit by lightning"!  When I
told him I didn't want the plan, he says "OH! can I ask why??  I
replied blunt-faced "Because I'm going to open it up and modify it for
cellular anyways!"  I thought the guy was going to have a
siezure. hah.




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Timothy M. Jackson)
Subject: United Airlines Company Freq's
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 02:49:01 GMT
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Sender: [e-mail]

Does anyone have the UAL company ramp, ops, and maintenence freq's for
LAX, IAD, ORD ... or know where they are published ?  They don't seem to
be as readily available as the ATC freq's.

thanks,

Tim.
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Michael Hoff)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Does Grove HAVE a catalog?
Date: 9 Oct 1995 02:13:42 GMT
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Has anyone else had problems getting Grove to send them a catalog?
I've called their 1-800 number twice in the past 3 months, and emailed
them once.  No catalog.  Their web site says it's free, and I'd really
like to order a scantenna.  I've got the money, I've got the mount,
but I can't get seem to persuade their customer "service" drones to
slip me a catalog.  You'd think they want to take my money.  Is there
another mail-order house out there that is a little more responsive?

Robert Hoff


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mr.News)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LO-JACK freq wanted.
Date: 9 Oct 1995 08:08:48 GMT
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Gary,
173.075 lojac mobile.

Now what do you have as "Mountain top" freq?

I was unaware that lojac used other freqs.

MrNews.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Fran Olson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanner Law wanted
Date: 9 Oct 1995 10:35:36 GMT
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What I need is for someone willing to transcribe the full text of the
scanner law(s) from their state and send them to me.   I am trying to
set up the laws from each state on our bbs.  Your help will be deeply
appreciated.  I will need it in ASCII form.  Maybe some of  you  have
already made up a copy.

--- Fran

Contact me at  [e-mail]
        or at  [e-mail]

.................................................................
: Amateur Radio Station (WB9ULS)    :  Amateur Radio & Scanner  :
: Fran Olson                        :  * Information Provider * :
: P.O.B. 1122                       :    [e-mail]   :
: Champaign, IL. 61824-1122, U.S.A. :   [e-mail]   :
:...................................:...........................:
--


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JD MITCHELL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: New Zealand new Ambulance freqs
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 95 20:59:00 -1100
Distribution: world
Organization: PowerLink BBS, Auckland, New Zealand (powerlink.iconz.co.nz)
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Hi there, i have some of the Auckland Freq, If you could send me the
Auckland \ waikato freq.
the new FM channels are far better than the am ones.
Cheers John Mitchell.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (GRAEME WILLIAMS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: New Zealand new Ambulance freqs
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 95 08:37:00 -1100
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>Hi there, i have some of the Auckland Freq, If you could send
>me the Auckland \ waikato freq.
>the new FM channels are far better than the am ones.
>Cheers John Mitchell.
>
Try scanning between 141.300 - 141.600 NFM using 12.5 Khz steps. Some of
the frequencies are:

AKL Central 141.4125
AKL South   141.3750

Cheers,
Graeme Williams


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Lou Milrad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: NEWMARKET HAMFEST - Saturday, November 11
Date: 9 Oct 1995 08:20:23 -0400
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The York Region Amateur Radio Club presents The 19th Annual NEWMARKET
HAMFEST on Saturday, November 11th, 1995 at Huron Heights Secondary School
in Newmarket, Ontario.

Admission: $5.00 per person
Doors open to the general public at 9:00 am Talk-in on VE3YRC 147.225+

This is THE HAMFEST. The one all the others are judged by. 200+  Vendors.
In addition to all of Southern Ontario's major Ham Radio Stores, generally
Yaesu, Icom and Kenwood are there as well . Plenty of parking. Door prizes.
Grand prizes. Refreshments available. Extra space for socializing.

Please note:  The Hamfest entrance is at the main entrance to the school on
Huron Heights Drive.

Vendor Information:

Tables 1,2 or 3:    $15.00 each (Note: These are 6 foot tables) Tables 4 &
5:     $25.00 each Tables 6+:            $50.00 each

Vendors Note: Your ADMISSIONS @ 5.00 per person ARE EXTRA.

TABLES ARE ONLY AVAILABLE BY MAIL. No Bookings will be taken by phone, over
the air or by packet. Payment must accompany your registration.

Up until October 21st preference will be given to vendors that attended
last year's Hamfest.

Please note our mailing address:

The York Region Amateur Radio Club
P.O. Box 28590
Aurora, Ontario
L4G 6S6


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (ROGER CRAVENS)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Atlanta Unidentified Freq
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 95 16:59:00 -0500
Organization: Faster-Than-Light (FTL), Atlanta GA, [phone]
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This message was originally addressed to ALL
and a carbon copy was sent to you.
                    ----------------------------------------
The following is a listing of Atlanta, GA frequencies that are still
current, but I have no idea what they actually used for.  All I have is
that they are either listed under a general heading of local government
or police.  Other than this, they have no further identification.

Here's hoping someone has one or more of these stuck away somewhere and
can specifically identify them.

(PL=LOCAL GOVERNMENT; PP=POLICE DEPARTMENT)

153.8750 PL
453.3625 PL
453.4375 PL
453.6625 PL
458.2500 PL
458.2750 PL
458.3625 PL
458.4375 PL
458.6625 PL
154.9500 PP
155.6325 PP
156.0500 PP
156.0650 PP
156.0800 PP
156.0900 PP
156.1100 PP
156.1250 PP
156.1400 PP
156.1550 PP
156.1700 PP
156.1850 PP
156.2100 PP
156.4500 PP
158.9025 PP
158.9100 PP
158.9175 PP
158.9625 PP
158.9700 PP
158.9900 PP
159.0000 PP
159.0050 PP
159.0350 PP
159.0500 PP
159.0650 PP
159.1100 PP

Any and all help with these would be much appreciated.

Roger

cc: SYSOP
    ALL
    ALL
    DAVID WILLOUGHBY
    ALL
    ALL
---
 . QMPro 1.52 . Be vewy, vewy quiet...Roger's hunting Wadio Waves!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gschmitt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Washington, DC Utility Freqs?
Date: 9 Oct 1995 16:36:09 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Hello.  I'm interested in getting DC area HR UTE freqs or
National Airport 118-136 MHz airband freqs.  Can anyone
help me out?  Thank you.  George



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Charlie Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Need Bearcat 210XL Schematic
Date: 9 Oct 1995 20:47:42 GMT
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I need a schematic and/or repair manual for a
Bearcat 210XL scanner.  If anyone has one I'd
appreciate it!

thanks in advance,

Charlie T.

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mario Westphal)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Montreal anyone?
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 17:38:42 UNDEFINED
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I know the guys from 146.910 have a Internet gateway. Anyone here who could
help me with some frequencies?

Thanks,
Mario Westphal



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:35 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Question-Bearcat BC200XLT-Search Mode
Date: 9 Oct 1995 19:45:52 GMT
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In article <45b6ep$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Lou Milrad) says:
>
>I recently acquired a used BC 200XLT without manual. Although I have no
>problem programming the frequencies and getting it to scan, I am absolutely
>"befuddled" (a Canadian word, eh) on getting the unit to search. Every
>effort has resulted in an Error message!
>
>Any and all help would be appreciated.
>
>--
>Lou Milrad
>[e-mail]

Hope this info helps, and you can get your scanner to search.

BC200XLT Band Search Programming Instructions
(Also works with BC760XLT)

1.  Stop the scanner from scanning by pressing the "MANUAL"
    key.  This is very important.  No search information can
    be entered while the scanner is in the scan mode.

2.  If you wish, enter a channel with no frequency entered,
    and press the "MANUAL" key again to place the scanner on
    the empty channel.  This is a useful step, which is
    explained later.

3.  Enter the lower frequency limit of the search band of
    interest, then press the "LIMIT" key.  The frequency
    entries for both the lower and upper limits must be
    a valid frequency within the frequency ranges the scanner
    is capable of receiving.  Otherwise, the result is an
    "ERROR" message.

4.  Enter the upper frequency limit of the search band of
    interest, then press the "LIMIT" key.

5.  To start the search, press the "SEARCH" key.

6.  The search can be stopped by pressing either the "LIMIT"
    key or the "HOLD" key once.  Each additional press of the
    "LIMIT" key decrements the frequency by the internally
    preprogrammed step size for the band being searched.
    Similarly, each additional press of the "HOLD" key
    increments the frequency by the preprogrammed step size.
    To continue searching, press the "SEARCH" key.

7.  If during the search, the scanner stops on a frequency of
    interest, stop the search mode as explained in Step 6.  The
    frequency can be entered into the current scanner channel
    by pressing the "ENTER" key.  This is why it may be useful
    to perform the search mode with the scanner on an empty
    channel.  To continue searching, press the "SEARCH" key.

8.  The search limits are retained in memory until over-written
    by new search limits.

9.  The delay feature can be enabled for all frequencies within
    the search limits by pressing the "DELAY" key.  This allows
    a delay between the time the received signal drops out and
    the scanner begins searching again, the same as in the normal
    scan mode.  This can be useful to allow the user time to stop
    the search if he wants to record the frequency, monitor
    further, etc.

Other Useful Information:
(Applicable to both the BC200XLT and BC760XLT)

Note:

Doing either one of the following erases the frequencies currently
stored in the scanner.  Don't do either of these unless you
have copies of the frequencies stored in each channel, and you
are willing to re-enter all of them.

With the scanner "off," hold down the "SCAN," "2," and "9" keys
while turning the scanner "on."  This enters frequencies into
some channels used during receiver testing and alignment, and
enters 000.000 into all other channels.

With the scanner "off," hold down the "MANUAL," "2," and "9"
keys while turning the scanner "on."  This enters 000.000 into
all of the scanner channels.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:36 1995
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From: White Heat <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO 2035 + PRO 2042 DO GET CELL!
Date: 9 Oct 1995 22:18:10 GMT
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Ok by now i know you are thinking what the hell is he talking
about??? Well awhile ago i started recieving cell calls on 1110Mhz
and wondering why! Because i could never get even cell images
because of the triple conversion which eliminates images from even
being picked up... so i started thinking.. The cell block only
applies to the 832 channel phones i was screwing around with my
brand new Micro-Tac Lite and noticed this little sticker that said
"832/2412 Channel Operation" so i made a couple of calls each time
turing the phone off so it would select a new channel each time it
was logged onto the system and i had my Scout with me and sure
enough "1109 MHz"!!! Have fun with this new info god this makes ya
wonder what there gonna block out next!! Happy Hacking!

                        -=White Heat▓=-


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:37 1995
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From: john <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PAGE GROUPS
Date: 9 Oct 1995 16:35:30 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware
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I would like to know what you are talking about!  I belive BNN's pages are very
worthwhile and keep the subscriber/member highly informed on active-breaking
incidents.  It is true that I also receive pages from Phoenix AZ, and I also
like to hear what other incidents are happening out on the West Coast--the
Amtrak derailment in AZ earlier this morning for instance.  W/o ICP, no one on
the East Coast would not have heard about it until later today, but on BNN, it
was paged out at 5:00am.

Please elaborate on your point.


john

[e-mail] (BILL FUNK) wrote:
>
> I have very good evidence that ICP (Incident Command Paging) of Phoenix has
> put out hoax pages over BNN's signature.
> Any pager groups that use BNN info may, for their own protection, want to
> verify any BNN news pages with BNN directly.
>



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:39 1995
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From: john <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PAGE GROUPS
Date: 9 Oct 1995 16:35:53 GMT
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[e-mail] (BILL FUNK) wrote:
>
> I have very good evidence that ICP (Incident Command Paging) of Phoenix has
> put out hoax pages over BNN's signature.
> Any pager groups that use BNN info may, for their own protection, want to
> verify any BNN news pages with BNN directly.
>
>Bill Funk
>       Internet: [e-mail]
>                 [e-mail]
>
>... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
> * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12853



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:39 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: wanted Sacramento Airport freq..thanks
Date: 9 Oct 1995 19:30:52 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc
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>   [e-mail] (Jeff Hall) writes:
>    I am looking for some airline freq. for the Sacramento
>  Airport..Thanks..Jeff
>
>
>>>>
I'm assuming you mean the Sacamento Metropolitan Airport,
not the Executive or Natomas Field.

If so then here are some frequencies.

Ground 121.700
Tower   125.700
Clearance Delivery  121.100
Approach  125.600 & 124.500
Unicom   122.950

Hope this helps

Steve
[e-mail]

http://www.winternet.com/~genave



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:40 1995
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From: Fernando Robalo <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AR 8000
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 21:08:39 -0700
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Hi

I┤m looking for an schema of the interface to the AOR 8000 and the
software for control it, If someone have it, could please email
me.

Fernando Robalo
CT1FNO


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (William Rahl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat FS:8500XLT
Date: 10 Oct 1995 01:56:11 GMT
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Uniden Bearcat 8500xlt for sale: $225+ship
Excellent condition.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:42 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: The Pope and the Prez hit Newark, NJ
Date: 10 Oct 1995 02:22:07 GMT
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Is there a FAQfro Secret Service Freqs, Air Forc 1?  The prez
is coming to town and this is my first chance to monitor.  Make
ya a deal, if someone can help me out, I'll put is up on my web
page when I make it, or a link to the FAQ.







From [e-mail] Tue Oct 10 10:42:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Wayda)
Subject: Re: Handheld Scanners
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Try to get a pro-43 without an "A" in the serial number. It can be modded
for cell reception. All of the listed Radio Shack Scanners provide better
performance than the Sportcat. Triple conversion scanners reduce unwanted
images that can cause severe problems in Metro environments.

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police



Bob Schaffer ([e-mail]) wrote:
: craig todd gafah <[e-mail]> wrote:

: >Ok, I want some honest opinions from some reliable sources--
: >Which Radio Shack handheld scanner is the best?
: >      Pro 62         Pro 43
: >         Pro 23      Pro 26 - mine (European Version)
: >                     Pro 51
: >                     Pro 60
: >There are many more, but I can't list them all.
: >How do these handhelds rank up against the Unidens and others in the same
: >class?
: >             Thanks in Advance


: >                                     Craig

: Recently compared the RS handhelds and bought a Uniden Sportcat SC-150.   It had
: better audio, fast scanning, and was lower priced than the comparible RS units.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Lou Milrad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Question-Bearcat BC200XLT-Search Mode
Date: 9 Oct 1995 09:01:13 -0400
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I recently acquired a used BC 200XLT without manual. Although I have no
problem programming the frequencies and getting it to scan, I am absolutely
"befuddled" (a Canadian word, eh) on getting the unit to search. Every
effort has resulted in an Error message!

Any and all help would be appreciated.

--
Lou Milrad
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:32 1995
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From: Brian varine <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Question-Bearcat BC200XLT-Search Mode
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:07:19 -0700
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On 9 Oct 1995, Lou Milrad wrote:

> I recently acquired a used BC 200XLT without manual. Although I have no
> problem programming the frequencies and getting it to scan, I am absolutely
> "befuddled" (a Canadian word, eh) on getting the unit to search. Every
> effort has resulted in an Error message!
>
> Any and all help would be appreciated.
>

While your scanning, type in your lower freq limit then press the down
arrow, then enter the upper freq limit and then press the down arrow
again, now hit the search key (the one between the arrows)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:32 1995
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From: trooper <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: ISO Delaware Scanner Hobbyists
Date: 10 Oct 1995 15:00:29 GMT
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Located in the UDEL in Newark, DE., I am ISO other avid scanner
listeners; monitoring ***phone conversations***, public safety, and
buisness companies.  Look forward for replies.


trooper



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James Lepphaille)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: San Francisco Ham
Distribution: world
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* In a message originally to UUCP@1:2002/150

To: uucp@1:2002/150
Subject: San Francisco Ham

Can someone please refer me to a Ham Radio related BBS in the 415 or 408
area codes?

thanks

jim

 * OLX 1.52 * james.lepphaille@1:2002/150  -  Forestville, CA ,USA


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (KC5KTO)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: San Francisco Ham
Date: 12 Oct 1995 04:58:04 GMT
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James Lepphaille ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Can someone please refer me to a Ham Radio related BBS in the 415 or 408
: area codes?

There's the Environet BBS at 415-512-9108.  Never been on it, so don't
ask me anything more about it.

T.J.
--
| T.J. Harrell III  [e-mail]  |   _\|   /\  |/_
| NRA  KC5KTO       [e-mail]  |      \ /  \ /
| Scanning, ham radio, and more:          |       /    \
| http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~thharrel/       |      /______\
| Not speaking for the NMSU ARC or the NMSU Business Office |


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Bearcat 200 XLT
Date: 10 Oct 1995 15:27:31 GMT
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Michael Vitucci <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>Is there a modification that can be done to extend battery life?


Good News: Yes, there is. My batteries use to last 3-5 hours, now they
last 11-13 hours.

Bad News: A local electronics store did it for me. I don't have a clue
how they did it.

At least you know it can be done and can keep asking around!

Gary - MIlwaukee WI



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Does Grove HAVE a catalog?
Date: 9 Oct 1995 03:41:43 GMT
Organization: Prodigy Services Company  1-800-PRODIGY
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[e-mail] (Robert Michael Hoff) wrote:
>
>Has anyone else had problems getting Grove to send them a catalog?
>I've called their 1-800 number twice in the past 3 months, and emailed
>them once.  No catalog.

I responded to their Web site, requesting a catalog.  Within 10 days I
had not only a catalog but also a complimentary copy of Monitoring Times
AND a complimentary copy of Satellite Times.  Thanks, Grove!!

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:37 1995
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From: Jeff <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Does Grove HAVE a catalog?
Date: 12 Oct 1995 05:24:43 GMT
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      For some reason, when I subscribed to the Monitoring Times, I was
sent a free catalog, and a free issue of the Satellite Times. I'm not sure
why; I didn't ask.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:37 1995
Path: news.epix.net!wmerrell
From: [e-mail] (wfm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 262.350 & 262.300 NBFM
Date: 10 Oct 1995 22:33:23 GMT
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Anyone else monitored the traffic on 262.350 and 262.300 (NBFM)?
I first heard friday night and as of tonight (tues) it
was still active.
bill


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From: [e-mail] (Jon Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 262.350 & 262.300 NBFM
Date: 12 Oct 95 20:40:17
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W(>Anyone else monitored the traffic on 262.350 and 262.300 (NBFM)?
W(>I first heard friday night and as of tonight (tues) it
W(>was still active.
W(>bill

What was it that you heard on this Freq.

---
 * WR 1.31 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (wfm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 262.350 & 262.300 NBFM
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: W(>Anyone else monitored the traffic on 262.350 and 262.300 (NBFM)?
: W(>I first heard friday night and as of tonight (tues) it
: W(>was still active.
: W(>bill

: What was it that you heard on this Freq.

Many tatical call signs including 3 whiskey and two tango doing
radio checks in the clear then send encryted traffic.  This has
been going on since friday night and was still active last time
I checked on thrusday evening.  262.350 was the primary freq with
262.300 alternate.  I have often monitored Satcom traffic but it
is usually short and sweet and most is encrypted.  This traffic
is by far the longest unencrypted I have ever heard.  No clues
as to who or where either/any of the parties are.  Only thing
was on saturday about three pm eastern time they were talking
about going to "chow", for what ever that is worth.
I have a 2005 with a Diamond Discone and a Grove preamp and live
in NE PA.
bill


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Charlotte area frequencies
Date: 9 Oct 1995 03:48:27 GMT
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Hello fellow scanner lovers!

How about helping Drew fill up his memory banks?  I arrived here in
Charlotte a few months ago and began scanning in my new neighborhood.
Since then, I have found the Charlotte PD on their 860Mhz trunked
frequencies as well as most...but not all 42Mhz NC State Patrol
frequencies.  But that leaves a lot of available memories left to
program!  What do you have for Charlotte and surrounding counties?
Police, fire, EMT, county sheriffs, interesting business band, news crews,
 etc.  Also would appreciate some freqs for Rock Hill, SC (25 miles S. of
Charlotte) as I also spend quite a bit of time down there.

Thanks,

Drew in Charlotte
KF4DDM



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:41 1995
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From: Fred Evans <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Which scanner to buy? - Advice needed.
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On 10 Oct 1995, Noel Lewis wrote:

> Hello everyone:
>
> I am planning to buy a portable scanner. I have saved up some dough
> and I want one which covers a broad spectrum of the frequency range.
> Any suggestions on what I should get and what I should avoid?
>
> Thanks for your inputs.
>
> Noel Lewis
> [e-mail]
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Hi Noel,

Please check out the Uniden "Sportcat" SC150. It's 29MHz thru 956 MHz.
Small, has great sound and less exspensive then the Radio Shack ones.
I have one and I think its great. It has all you need and more.
Good Luck on your search.

FRED
[e-mail]




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From: BRETSKI <[e-mail]>
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This one is gaining strength very fast. I have lists of where
to *try* to listen. What we need is where amateur/utility/commercial
radio traffic actually is happening.

Thanks,
Bret


BRET A. PENNINGTON /  COMPUTER TECHNICIAN   /EARTH AND ATMOSPHERIC SCIENCES
CIVL 4252 317-494-0678 / PURDUE UNIVERSITY  / WEST LAFAYETTE, INDIANA 47907
[e-mail]                   /     speaking only for myself.
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From: [e-mail] (Adrian)
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Subject: Re: Other countries where scanners are legal . . .
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>"B. Edginton" <[e-mail]>

>>Scott Van Aartsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>Just curious -- and someone must know . . .
>
>>But why is it that we only ever see posts from people from the United
>>States, and occasionally Canada, G.B. and the Netherlands on this
>>newsgroup?  Are scanners illegal in most other countries?
>
>>73 de Scott
>
>No problems in Australia...cellphone coverage is legal but you musnt
>listen
>Brian

It's illegal here in Singapore. So leave your scanner home  :-(  if you intend
to come to this damned country, where young boys get whipped for
graffitti.....




















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From: [e-mail] (Aerocom)
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Subject: Re: Other countries where scanners are legal . . .
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Scott Van Aartsen <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Just curious -- and someone must know . . .

>But why is it that we only ever see posts from people from the United
>States, and occasionally Canada, G.B. and the Netherlands on this
>newsgroup?  Are scanners illegal in most other countries?

Here in the Netherlands we are allowed to listen to everything ;
cellulars, police, military and aircraft comms. The only thing
is, is that you are not supposed to discuss anything you pickup
with ' third ' parties. So scanners are definitely LEGAL here !

Things are different however in the surrounding countries. In
Belgium it is ILLEGAL to own or operate a scanner. In Germany
laws were changed two years ago. You can now own a scanner there,
but it is illegal to listen to certain frequencies, for example
police and the military. I don't know about cellphones, but as
most countries here switch to GSM it will be difficult anyway :(

Best regards, happy scanning !







++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                  monitoring military communications
                             on UHF 225-400 MHz.
                              [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Reynolds)
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In article <45g8bq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Scott Van Aartsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Just curious -- and someone must know . . .
>
>>But why is it that we only ever see posts from people from the United
>>States, and occasionally Canada, G.B. and the Netherlands on this
>>newsgroup?  Are scanners illegal in most other countries?
>
>Here in the Netherlands we are allowed to listen to everything ;
>cellulars, police, military and aircraft comms. The only thing
>is, is that you are not supposed to discuss anything you pickup
>with ' third ' parties. So scanners are definitely LEGAL here !
>
>Things are different however in the surrounding countries. In
>Belgium it is ILLEGAL to own or operate a scanner. In Germany
>laws were changed two years ago. You can now own a scanner there,
>but it is illegal to listen to certain frequencies, for example
>police and the military. I don't know about cellphones, but as
>most countries here switch to GSM it will be difficult anyway :(
>
>Best regards, happy scanning !
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++
>                  monitoring military communications
>                             on UHF 225-400 MHz.
>                              [e-mail]
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>
Scanners are ok in Oz but listening to cell phones is discouraged.
Many scanners have the 800MHz capacity for phones.... but brother trusts
us not to listen...

Hoo Roo



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From: Brian varine <[e-mail]>
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On 9 Oct 1995, Lou Milrad wrote:

> You wil want to note the new URL location which is now:
>
> http://www.uq.edu.au:80/~bgmborth/
>

What the hell is it?


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I have the 5th edition of the New York Metro big book, dated 1993.
Does anyone know if there is a newer version out yet? When?


Thanks...



*********************************************
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Paramedic, Nassau County Police Dept     2366
Asst. Chief, Locust Valley Fire Dept     5402

HTTP://home.aol.com/MTBono
Metro/Fire/EMS BBS, 516-488-4325 FREE

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From: [e-mail] (Dennis Davis)
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The WAVE demo can be found at

   ftp://mirrors.aol.com//pub/info-mac/sci/wave-211d1-demo.hqx

-Dennis
 [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Alvin N. Wang)
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Hi Y'all

I'm in the market for a mobile scanner and was considering the BC-700 or the
BC-350.  Has anyone out there had any experience with either of the two?  I
understand that both models have preset frequencies (i.e. police, fire,
ems, etc.), but how easy it is to program your own frequencies?  Features
that are important to me include:  loud, clear audio and easy of use
while moving.  Are there any other scanners that I should look into?  Thanks
in advance!

- Alvin Wang
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:49 1995
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I have the BC 700a, and am listening to it, right now. The main reason I
purchased it, is because I wanted 800mhz capability in my shack/computer
room, and I could leave my other scanner in the living room. I got this
for a
steal at a local Kmart. They were clearing 5 units out at 79.00 a pop. I
couldn't go wrong. Well, for 79 bucks, the audio is nice, and it receives
nicely in my basement, with just the stock antenna. But, there is no
direct
entry programming, which really sucks. The pre-programmed channels are
okay
if you're lazy, but you can only program 20 channels into each bank,
hardly
enough for any serious scanner monitor. At a retail price of 199.00, I
don't
feel you'd get your money's worth, at all.  The BC 350 is the exact same
thing, less 800 mhz coverage. For about 250.00, if you like Bearcat, you
can get the 760xlt, which is fully programmable, and has 100 channels.  If
you're on a tight budget, there are probably other mobile scanners
available, that would give you more bang for your buck. Perhaps someone
else on the list can provide info on those.

R. Allen
WB8YHE.


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You can contact me at LLPIX @AOL.COM. we have a paging system up and i can
point you inthe right direction.


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[e-mail] (Jim Wayda) wrote:

>The ICOM R1 is aa very poor receiver. It suffers from severe front end
>overload and intermod that makes it almost useless in large metro areas.
>This radio is worth about $175.00. It was never worth anywhere near the
>price that ICOM charges. Newbies beware of tthe ICOM R1!

>Jim Wayda
>Capain, Scanner Price Police


 Your thoughts on ICOM W2A please. I know very little of this radio
other than supposedly the '94 has better range than the '95 model.

J










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I previously had an ICOM W2A. The W2a is a 2 meter 70cm tranceiver that
that has a wide band receive from about 100 to 900 mhz. The specifications
on the wide band receive are not guarenteed! This means that both you and I
could own a W2a, and my receive of 500mhz or any other frequency for that matter
may be better than yours. The wideband receive is there, but ICOM does not guarentee the specs. Even with all of the Shortcomings, I wish that I still own
W2a.

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police


[e-mail] wrote:
: [e-mail] (Jim Wayda) wrote:

: >The ICOM R1 is aa very poor receiver. It suffers from severe front end
: >overload and intermod that makes it almost useless in large metro areas.
: >This radio is worth about $175.00. It was never worth anywhere near the
: >price that ICOM charges. Newbies beware of tthe ICOM R1!

: >Jim Wayda
: >Capain, Scanner Price Police


:  Your thoughts on ICOM W2A please. I know very little of this radio
: other than supposedly the '94 has better range than the '95 model.

: J










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From: [e-mail] (Wayne Regaudie)
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Subject: Re: Canadian Snowbird freqs?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 18:52:19 GMT
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[e-mail] (Darwin Pharo) wrote:


>   I attended a airshow last weekend that the Snowbirds were at and I
>attempted at listening in on them, I had little to no sucess! Does anyone
>have the most current freqs for them, if so please post so all may share!

>   Thanks in advance!!

Hi all!

Scanner AND airplanes! What a combination!

I've been scanning, hamming (VE3THN) and a aviation enthusiast for eons.

Here's a list I aquired (all AM of course).

  ** However, 245.750 (not on list) seems to be the usual freq used by the
Snowbirds as of late (past 2 or 3 yrs). **

One thing you must remember about aerobatic teams - comms are VERY short.
(And all the best stuff is just before and just after the show!)

You must have the freq and your scanner must be stopped on it in monitor or
manual mode!  Even if you have the proper list of freqs (search is useless)
programmed in, the chances of catching them in scan mode are slim to none.

I am part of a crew that produces videos for airshows.  My job is to
intercept aircraft comms for use on one the the audio track mixes for the
videos.  I usually have 3 or so scanners on the go, hooked up into the
audio equipment.  Also, years of listening and using this type of comms
makes you capable of catching most of the comms you would want to hear.

Being part of this crew also gets me in to airshows free.  Seats at the
announcers booth and access to the pilot briefings.  Need a freq?  Just
attend a pilot brfing the morning of each show day. Heck,  I even managed
to aquire a copy of the HUD camera footage from an F16 participating in a
one of the shows we did.

------------------------------------------------------------------
  275.800   Snowbirds  CH.  1
  295.600   Snowbirds  CH.  2
  310.800   Snowbirds  CH.  3
  227.600   Snowbirds  CH.  4
  243.400   Snowbirds  CH.  5
  240.500   Snowbirds  CH.  6
  378.500   Snowbirds  CH.  7
  266.300   Snowbirds  CH.  8
  294.500   Snowbirds  CH.  9
  322.800   Snowbirds  CH. 10
  245.700   Snowbirds  CH. 11  (verified)
  316.500   Snowbirds  CH. 12  (verified)
  344.500   Snowbirds  CH. 13
  356.600   Snowbirds  CH. 14
  236.600   Snowbirds  CH. 15
  283.900   Snowbirds  CH. 16
  363.800   Snowbirds  CH. 17
  289.400   Snowbirds  CH. 18
  245.000   Snowbirds  CH. 19
  239.800   Snowbirds  CH. 20



Happing watching and listening!

73

Wayne Regaudie
Sudbury Ontario Canada
VE3THN

[e-mail]
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I have had mu Pro-60 for about 2 weeks and am very impressed with the
quality and functionality of the unit.  The price is $80 off for the rest
of October....$299 vs. $379.

This is my first scanner so my comparison is limited...As for the Pro-62,
its a good unit but the layout of the controls does not make it a user
friendly device.  Good luck.



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I also found the Sportcat 150 to be a remarkably good scanner for its
price.

--
Lou Milrad
[e-mail]

In rec.radio.scanner [e-mail] (Jim Wayda) said:


>Try to get a pro-43 without an "A" in the serial number. It can be modded
for
>cell reception. All of the listed Radio Shack Scanners provide better
>performance than the Sportcat. Triple conversion scanners reduce unwanted

>images that can cause severe problems in Metro environments.
>
>Jim Wayda
>Captain, Scanner Price Police
>
>
>
>Bob Schaffer ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: craig todd gafah <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>: >Ok, I want some honest opinions from some reliable sources--
>: >Which Radio Shack handheld scanner is the best?
>: >     Pro 62         Pro 43
>: >         Pro 23     Pro 26 - mine (European Version)
>: >                    Pro 51
>: >                    Pro 60
>: >There are many more, but I can't list them all.
>: >How do these handhelds rank up against the Unidens and others in the
same
>: >class?
>: >            Thanks in Advance
>
>
>: >                                    Craig
>
>: Recently compared the RS handhelds and bought a Uniden Sportcat SC-150.
 It
>had
>: better audio, fast scanning, and was lower priced than the comparible RS

>units.
>


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From: [e-mail] (Ken Koller)
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Jim Wayda ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Try to get a pro-43 without an "A" in the serial number. It can be modded
: for cell reception. All of the listed Radio Shack Scanners provide better
: performance than the Sportcat. Triple conversion scanners reduce unwanted
: images that can cause severe problems in Metro environments.

: Jim Wayda
: Captain, Scanner Price Police
:
I too am looking at getting at a RS handheld, either a pro 60 or 62. I
would like to have the Militray freq capapbility, as I live a few miles
from NAS Point Mugu, but it is not a necessity. My 20XLT just died and
looks like it has scanned it's last scan, and I need a scanner for work.
I like the size of the 60/62, it would fit nicely in my pocket or camera
bag. RS has the 60 on sale for $299 and I was wondering 1. Is military
a/c that interesting to listen to? 2. Is there a uniden/bearcat model
comparable to the 62? And how good do the 60/62 scanners hold up? I have
an old 4 channel crystal handheld that still goes strong 13 years after I
got it, which believe it or not, is filling the gap left behind by the
dead $300 digital.
--
Ken Koller
Photographer, The Santa Clarita Signal
[e-mail]
"Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug."


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Subject: Re: Handheld Scanners
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I would consider a Bearcat 3000xlt or, a European Pro-26. The European Pro-26
is not cellular blocked and is about the same price as the Bearcat 3000xlt.


Jim Wayda


Ken Koller ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Jim Wayda ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : Try to get a pro-43 without an "A" in the serial number. It can be modded
: : for cell reception. All of the listed Radio Shack Scanners provide better
: : performance than the Sportcat. Triple conversion scanners reduce unwanted
: : images that can cause severe problems in Metro environments.

: : Jim Wayda
: : Captain, Scanner Price Police
: :
: I too am looking at getting at a RS handheld, either a pro 60 or 62. I
: would like to have the Militray freq capapbility, as I live a few miles
: from NAS Point Mugu, but it is not a necessity. My 20XLT just died and
: looks like it has scanned it's last scan, and I need a scanner for work.
: I like the size of the 60/62, it would fit nicely in my pocket or camera
: bag. RS has the 60 on sale for $299 and I was wondering 1. Is military
: a/c that interesting to listen to? 2. Is there a uniden/bearcat model
: comparable to the 62? And how good do the 60/62 scanners hold up? I have
: an old 4 channel crystal handheld that still goes strong 13 years after I
: got it, which believe it or not, is filling the gap left behind by the
: dead $300 digital.
: --
: Ken Koller
: Photographer, The Santa Clarita Signal
: [e-mail]
: "Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug."


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:08:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Hotrod)
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Subject: Re: Handheld Scanners
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Sorry guys,but the Pro-43 beats anything ive ever used.Who cares about
UHF tv channels (525-795).  Most 43's are cellular capable that
skip at the needed 30khz to get all the cellular channels.Sorry the
cellular images on new scanners dont cut it on clarity.Scan rate on the
43 is fairly good also.I'll go 1 on 1 with any scanner with my 43.

From: [e-mail]



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On 13 Oct 1995, Hotrod wrote:

> Sorry guys,but the Pro-43 beats anything ive ever used.Who cares about
> UHF tv channels (525-795).  Most 43's are cellular capable that
> skip at the needed 30khz to get all the cellular channels.Sorry the
> cellular images on new scanners dont cut it on clarity.Scan rate on the
> 43 is fairly good also.I'll go 1 on 1 with any scanner with my 43.
>
> From: [e-mail]
>
> The Pro 26Uk is better than the Pro 43, if mods are what you are
worried about.  It is smaller, faster, has triple conversion, etc.  Sorry
to burst your bubble.  RS has moved on since the Pro 43.  However the Pro
43 is still an excellent scanner.


                                Craig


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In <45kfs9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Hotrod) writes:
>Sorry guys,but the Pro-43 beats anything ive ever used.Who cares about
>UHF tv channels (525-795).  Most 43's are cellular capable that
>skip at the needed 30khz to get all the cellular channels.Sorry the
>cellular images on new scanners dont cut it on clarity.Scan rate on the
>43 is fairly good also.I'll go 1 on 1 with any scanner with my 43.
>
>From: [e-mail]

I own a Pro-43, Pro-26, Icom R1, AOR-8000, Pro-51, Pro-34, Pro-2006 and
Yupiteru MVT-7100. By far, the best is the Yup. NOTHING comes close for
sensitivity and selectivity over its CONTINUOUS range from 100K to 1.65G.
Add to this 1000 channels, 10 search banks, 500 search pass frequencies,
an excellent light(that lights the keypad too!), and the best audio I've
heard from a handheld. It is also supplied with a belt clip, hand strap,
earphone, 4 NiCads, AC adapter and car adapter. I always recommend this
scanner to anyone looking in its price range($540 US).

I've done extensive comparison between my scanners and would rank them
1. MVT-7100
2. AOR-8000
3. Pro-26
4. Pro-43
5. R-1

If price were the major consideration I would give the thumbs up to the Pro-26
since it has most of the features of the MVT-7100(but not all) and can be
had mail order for about $340 US(probably slightly more if you get a Eurpoean
version w/o the cell block). Can't recommend a Pro-43 because you're not
likely to get ahold of one these days. Even if you could, the slightly higher
price of the Pro-26 is justified by the wider frequency coverage and the several
new features.

I stay away from the Uniden's because of the rechargable batteries(to me they're
a pain - I get enough of recharging with my Ham radio batteries!). And I love
the UHF TV stations because I can always tune in to the news - like when
8 of us at work were huddled around my scanner awaiting the outcome of
the OJ trial.

Enough said...

Rich


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas W. Demers)
Subject: Re: Handheld Scanners
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Folks, I just sold a Pro-51 (with cellular via keypad) so I
could buy a Pro-43 (modded for cellular)...now granted the
43 is a nice scanner but I actually miss the 51 and wonder
if I did the right thing....the 51 had the built in band search,
fire, marine, air etc which came in handy on the road a lot.
Also, the display was bigger and had a nice delay...no need to
hold the light key down forever....the audio was clearer and louder
on the 51 too. Sure, there's lots of mods for the 43 but you better
be sharp with a soldering iron.....the room inside is TIGHT! talk
about meticulous modding...whew. If your not into taking your
scanner apart and risking killing it...and you don't feel you
need the military band then the 51 is great little unit. I'll
miss it...maybe someday I'll buy another. Until then I'll rough
it with the 43 heh heh......

-Tom
--
Life's to short to worry...  :)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Wagner)
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Subject: Re: Background noise on BC9000,3000
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 20:01:32 GMT
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On 10 Oct 1995 15:22:45 GMT [e-mail] (Gary Schmidt) wrote:

>I have a similar problem with both my BC200XLT and BC3000XLT scanners.
>When I am in either my Dodge Dynasty or Chrysler New Yorker, either
>scanner will pick out a freq in the 154.xxx range and a light solid noise
>will start. This causes the scanner to stop on that freq. Sometimes, it
>will cause a real transmission to not come through. On the BC3000XLT, I
>can use ATT (attenuate) to block it out.

>What's weird is that it picks a different freq in that range each time I
>get into the car. It only happens to one freq at a time. The car can be
>moving, stopped, or parked and shut off. It happens the same way on
>either scanner and either car. If I put my hand or arm near the antenna,
>the sound stops. The sound only occurs inside the car to about 2 feet
>away. It happens on all sides of town. Sometimes, I get lucky and it
>doesn't happen at all.

>Anyone know what this is? I have all power equipment (windows, doors,
>etc) in both cars, but like I said, the problem continues after I shut
>off the car. This has not happened yet in my wife's Dodge Intrepid.

>Gary - Milwaukee WI.

I'm not sure if this is the same noise, but I've had similar problems with
a BC200XLT in the car, and I found it was the stereo system.  I've had 2
different high end Sony car stereos over the past few years, and had the
problem with both.  While the stereo was on, the scanner would stop on a
freq, usually lowband (30-50MHz), semi-stable.  It didn't matter if I was
listening to the tuner, cassette, or CD.  I suspect it was one of the
mixers in the stereo leaking RF, and that the tuner was on whether I was
listening to it or not.  My problem went away when the stereo was off.

Yours could be the car's CPU, maybe a digital clock, or one of those
electronic rust inhibitors.  All of these things have power on them all the
time, and have oscillators of one type or another.  It would be a pain, but
you could try disconnecting things like these one at a time until the noise
goes away, maybe by pulling the appropriate fuse from the block.
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:05 1995
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From: "Erik Finskas (csb1_95)" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
Date: 11 Oct 1995 09:09:44 GMT
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Cellular phone technology have been running for about 10 years, in the
beginning
there was no good solution for digital system. If such were developed, the
quality of voice could be horrible. Now there are few worldwide digital
standards for mobile phones, in the states system is called CDMA which comes
from Code Division Multiple Access and in europe system is called GSM as Global
system for Mobile Communication. In GSM system, the protocol or the type of
channelizing is called TDMA as Time Division Multiple Access, where a time a
second long is split to 8 time slots, which all include a certain amount of
data. Mobile terminals send only on one or two time slots and receives the same
amount. So all digital mobile communication bases on packets. There are few
internet manuals for digital cellular telephones.

Security for digital cellular telephones is very good. E.G. GSM uses A5
algorithm to scramble the data, and other e.g. A7 for crypting the A5 keys etc.

Erik
--
Erik Finskas G/OH2LAK
Email [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh)
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Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
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"Erik Finskas (csb1_95)" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>In GSM system, the protocol or the type of
>channelizing is called TDMA as Time Division Multiple Access, where a time a
>second long is split to 8 time slots, which all include a certain amount of
>data. Mobile terminals send only on one or two time slots and receives the same
>amount. So all digital mobile communication bases on packets. There are few
>internet manuals for digital cellular telephones.

In the North American IS-136 standard (formerly known as IS-54) --
which is also a TDMA standard, each 40 msec-TDMA frame is broken down
into 6 timeslots each with duration 6 and 2/3 msecs.  I have heard
that the GSM timeslots are shorter.  But you are saying that the GSM
frames are 1 second long which would make each of the 8 timeslots 125
mseconds long!  A GSM timeslot, then, is over three times as long as
an entire IS-54 frame!  Can this be?

Dan



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From: [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh)
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Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
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In case anyone is interested, here are the correct numbers:

TDMA has 40 ms frames which are broken into 6 timeslots;  each
timeslot, then, is 6 2/3 ms long.

GSM has 120 ms multi-frames which are broken into 26 frames, which are
then broken into 8 timeslots each;  each timeslot, then, is 579.92
microseconds, which is much shorter than the TDMA frame as I had
supposed.

Dan



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From: [e-mail] (Mike McCormick)
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Subject: Freq's for Austin, TX
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Anyone know where I can find a list for Austin.. I remember seeing a complete
list a while back ... I think it was a FTP site of many lists ..
Thanks in advance...
Michael


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In article <45f2b3$[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Mike McCormick) writes:

> Anyone know where I can find a list for Austin.. I remember seeing a complete
> list a while back ... I think it was a FTP site of many lists ..
> Thanks in advance...
> Michael


Try the UT radio club:
http://www.utexas.edu/students/utarc/freqs.html
plenty of lists.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Carter)
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Subject: JOTA HELP!!!!
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:03:09 GMT
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Can anyone please help me?

        On the weekend of October 21st the Scout movement is involved in the
Jamboree On The Air (JOTA). We at the Phoenix Venture Unit (Kenton &
Kingsbury District) North West London, had arranged for a licenced
radio operater an a few of his collegues to use our Unit Den as a base
for a radio station. We have made all the arrangements for masts and
wires to be strung for aerials telephone lines etc. but he has just
been given the completion date for moving house and it is that
weekend, therefore we are without a licenced operator. Is there
anybody or a radio group that would like a change of venue with
opportunities for new contacts that would be willing to help us out,
time is of the essence with regard to arrangements and licences etc.
If you can help or require any further details please reply asap.

        [e-mail]
        [e-mail]
        [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:11 1995
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THIS IS TEST ONLY.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Brady)
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Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
Date: 10 Oct 1995 21:16:15 -0400
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Brian varine ([e-mail]) wrote:


: The State Police have NO VG-2 Radar Detector Detectors. The are 3 in the
: whole state of VA, and they are in Alexandria. I used one for the 3 years
: in Va and was never bothered. Just make sure you have a decent hiding
: place, because, if you get pulled for speeding or other stuff, the first
: thing they wll look for is a detector. If you are on a freeway, there is
: almost no way to figure out which car has the detector even if they do
: have a VG-2. If you're all alone, well....

  Sorry for my late post, it has been a few days since I have gotten to
read this newsgroup :)

   A radar detector detector????  I thought that radar detectors where
passive devices.....   How can someone detect if you are using one????


[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Mike McCarty)
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Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
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In article <44u6fk$[e-mail]>,
Bill Sohl  Budd Lake <[e-mail]> wrote:
)[e-mail] (bill Rogers) ([e-mail]) wrote:
)
): I live in Maryland and occasionally drive into DC. My mobile ham rig can
): scan through some 40 channels, some of which are programmed with police
): and other frequencies.
)
): Is that a violation? Is my ham ticket any protection?
)
)If your reig is an actual amateur transceiver, then the FCC has
)preempted any local laws which might impact you.  The FCC
)premption makes no statements as to any programed frequencies
)etc.  The premption is strictly based on your being a ham
)and that you are using a ham transceiver which happens to
)have an extended receive capability.

It might still be against local or state laws to intercept
transmissions on these frequencies, although possession of
a receiver capable of doing so might not be illegal.

Mike

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char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}

I don't speak for DSC.         <- They make me say that.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike McCarty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
Date: 10 Oct 1995 23:43:08 GMT
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In article <453tj6$[e-mail]>,
SBacker684 <[e-mail]> wrote:
)In New York the amateurs license only alows you to "equip a motor vehicle
)with a radio receiving set" you are still limited to "frequencies
)exclusively allocated by the FCC to duly licensed radio amateurs".  I know
)it would be hard to prove what frequencie you were listening to. Do other
)states do this?

Not difficult at all. That's how radar detector detectors work. Pick
up the local oscillator.

Mike
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From: Brian varine <[e-mail]>
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Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:00:51 -0700
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On 10 Oct 1995, Ed Brady wrote:

> Brian varine ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>
> : The State Police have NO VG-2 Radar Detector Detectors. The are 3 in the
> : whole state of VA, and they are in Alexandria. I used one for the 3 years
> : in Va and was never bothered. Just make sure you have a decent hiding
> : place, because, if you get pulled for speeding or other stuff, the first
> : thing they wll look for is a detector. If you are on a freeway, there is
> : almost no way to figure out which car has the detector even if they do
> : have a VG-2. If you're all alone, well....
>
>   Sorry for my late post, it has been a few days since I have gotten to
> read this newsgroup :)
>
>    A radar detector detector????  I thought that radar detectors where
> passive devices.....   How can someone detect if you are using one????
>
Well, they're kind of passive. They use "Super Heterodyne". ie.
Intermediate Frequency. The VG-2 Detector Detector goes after detectors
IF. It gets worse. The radar detector manufacturers countered with
"stealth" radar detectors. They used a different IF than the VG-2 was
tuned to. BEL actually developed a radar detector detector DETECTOR!! It
detected the VG-2's IF and then adjusted it's own IF to foil the VG-2
while alerting the driver. Can a detector detector detector detector be
far off?? Actually it cracks me up that the police spend so much money
trying to catch people speeding and using radar detectors. Just think,
they could actually be catching real criminals. Those damn speeders, you
know. Worse than child molesters!! I can just see a "scanner detector"
coming after a new round of ECPA.

"COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP!!  PUT DOWN THE SCANNER!!!!"


==============================================================================
Brian R. Varine <[e-mail]>

He who owns the electromagnetic spectrum, owns the battlefield!
When in doubt, JAM IT!!!!

Ameteurs study tactics and strategy. Professionals study logistics

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 21:08:59 GMT
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Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Dan actually thinks that since scanners are legal no one should expect
>privacy when communicating by radio.  That might be realistic since there
>are so many scanner owners that don't have anything more constructive to
>do with their equipment than peer into the private affairs of their
>neighbors.  I DON'T realistically expect that my cordless calls will
>never be monitored.  But the voyeur that choses to monitor my calls
>should have the reasonable expectation that, if I found him doing it, his
>scanner would get stuck up his ass.

So Curtis, you would actually assault your neighbor if your neighbor
had the gall to de-modulate the trespassing RF that you were sending
over to his house?  If your neighbor was a woman, would you stick the
scanner up HER ass as well?  Why would you be so pugnacious?  Is it
because you assumed that it couldn't happen to you and were
embarrassed to find out that it did?  Embarrassed that you yourself
didn't take the necessary precautions?

>How about you Dan?  Amy?  Drew?  Are you exercising your "right" to
>listen in?  If you are, why?  Is it your duty as a citizen to know what
>your neighbors discuss on the phone?  Or are just waiting for those sorid
>or scandalous conversations?

>--
>Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA

Curtis, I do not monitor cordless phone conversations.  You may find
this hard to believe, because I defend that right so hard.  But I am
able to keep the emotional and the rational separated and to argue
from principles.

Also, I believe that those that spend all of their time doing that are
pitiable, really.  They have no life and I feel sorry for them.
However, I STILL defend their right to do it.

The only way a person with a cordless can guarantee privacy is to put
down the cordless and use the wireline -- and hope that the call isn't
being packet switched to a satellite in the Gigahertz area where it
can also be intercepted!

Dan



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Duane P Mantick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
Date: 10 Oct 1995 22:36:34 GMT
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Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]> writes:

>So what is the attraction to cordless phone calls?  I asked that here
>before - I have yet to see an answer from anyone.  All I have seen is
>about five people say they have a "right" to listen.  They don't say why
>they feel they have a need to exercise that right - a right, in reality,
>they don't have.

        Without getting into the little flame war that several people
seem to be having here, I'll partly comment on Mr. Wheeler's question,
even though it probably will NOT give him an answer, or at least not
the answer that he seems to want (whatever that is).

        Curtis, not very many people who *do* scan cordless channels
for some reason are likely to give you an answer, if in fact
that is the PRIMARY reason why they are scanning those frequencies.

        As has been pointed out, congress has made that illegal,
at least for the time being.  Only the very naive' amongst us would
believe that these newsgroups aren't occasionally monitored by
those who would be more than happy to make someone's life
miserable for them.  Consequently, I personally would not expect
anyone to directly answer your question simply because of that
illegality.

        Now let me toss something out that might throw a little
twist into the discussion.

        I am a user of the low power, 2 way communications gear that
like many cordless phones, is in the 49-MHz band.  On occasion,
a scanner comes in handy if you are playing some sport or engaging
in some other (legal) activity during which said 2-way radios
are used, and multiple units of differing frequencies are present.

        It so happens that a substantial number of them were built
to operate right smack on the SAME frequencies as 49-MHz cordless
phones.  Case in point, Radio Shack units on 49.83 MHz.

        OK - if it is a matter of legality that you are curious
about, the question must be asked - are cordless phones considered
a "primary user" of the 49-MHz band with 2-way units being legally
considered as "secondary" users?

        It does make a difference, as primary users of a band are
not supposed to get interfered with by secondary or tertiary users,
while said other users must accept interference from primary users
in most cases. (*deliberate* interference is another question)

        So then - is scanning the 49 MHz band then illegal when
the reason for doing so has NOTHING to do with cordless phones?

>One post said that "if it has antenna," don't say anything on that you
>wouldn't say in a crowded room.  Well unfortunately calls from your
>wireline phone could very well be routed over microwave circuits.  So
>with the logic I have seen thrown around in this debate, you can't even
>expect privacy if your converation leave your phone on copper.

        I will also comment upon this.  While it is not impossible
to intercept microwave relay signals (just ask the KGB), it is not
nearly so easy as stuff in the 49 MHz band.  In part, that can be
chalked up to simple availability of equipment.  In part, that has
to do with things like "line-of-sight" as opposed to "omni-directional
radiation pattern".  It also has to do with the fact that most people
don't have a multi-mega-watt microwaveguide pointing directly into their
homes, at least I *hope* not for their sake.

>Another feels that if he is doing something on his on his own property,
>he is not violating any else's rights.  That's a two way street.  You
>don't ever exercise a right to privacy?

        Further comment - the courts *used* to hold that cordless
phone users had no "expectation of privacy".  Why the sudden change?
Suspicion - money, that's why.  The cellular/cordless industry is
big bucks, and when big bucks speak, congresscritters listen.

>never be monitored.  But the voyeur that choses to monitor my calls
>should have the reasonable expectation that, if I found him doing it, his
>scanner would get stuck up his ass.

        Kinda funny that you expect us to respect an alleged right of
cordless privacy, but you aren't above assault and battery.  Do
*you* believe that *you* can just pick and choose what laws to
obey and which to violate?

>What else cracks me up about this subject?  People in this newsgroup have
>called me "another holier than thou", told me to mind my own business,

        Well, when you come into a scanner newsgroup and start a topic
which is guaranteed to push people's "HOT" buttons, I guess you
have to expect some flames.  Of course, it is possible that this is
what you had in mind in the first place.  Beats me.

>Now it's time for you to "come clean".  Are you listening in on your
>neighbors phone calls?  If you are, do they know?  Are you prepared to
>get off your electronic soapbox and get on a real one, and tell your
>neighbors if you have been listening in?  Yeah... really come clean.

        And may I ask, politely, just what business is it of YOURS?
I'd really like to know WHY you feel that anyone here should "come clean"
at YOUR whem?  Where is YOUR respect, sir, for the privacy of other people?

        I could make several possible conclusions about the possible reasons
for your presence on this group, but they would be sheer speculation.....

Duane



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Yee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 22:38:24 +1300
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In article <45co2d$[e-mail]>, Curtis Wheeler
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>So what is the attraction to cordless phone calls?  I asked that here
>before - I have yet to see an answer from anyone.  All I have seen is
>about five people say they have a "right" to listen.  They don't say why
>they feel they have a need to exercise that right - a right, in reality,
>they don't have.

Because it's a) harmless and b) often entertaining.

Paul


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:21 1995
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From: Rich Sheff <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
Date: 13 Oct 1995 00:36:10 GMT
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[e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh) wrote:
>The only way a person with a cordless can guarantee privacy is to put
>down the cordless and use the wireline -- and hope that the call isn't
>being packet switched to a satellite in the Gigahertz area where it
>can also be intercepted!

I may well be wrong on this, but I was of the impression that listening
to the analog phone calls from birds was considered wire-tapping.

Most phone systems today handle calls as digital signals, and many
of the links are digital.  I think it's getting fewer and fewer the
amount of calls that can be monitored over long-haul lines.  This
is the reason for the Digital Telephony Bill/Law that we should all
be aware of by now.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (griffy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LO-JACK freq wanted.
Date: 11 Oct 1995 03:20:44 GMT
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In article <45a8kb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Does anyone know what the frequency is for the small transmitters
>placed aboard motor vehicles for tracking their whereabouts?
>I know the frequency for the mountain top interogator/digital
>transmissions, but can't locate the mobile frequency.

 I would also like this info but offer only a smutty limerick about a man
 from Nantucket...:)



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:22 1995
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Subject: Re: LO-JACK freq wanted.
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Try 173.075 MHz


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Walker)
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Subject: Re: It's NOT illegal to listen......
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Someone please post those cellular frequencies I'm not supposed to listen to
so I can avoid them.  I'd hate to receive them accidentally and get into
trouble.





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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: It's NOT illegal to listen......
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 17:55:29
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In article <45h3g9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Daniel Walker) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Daniel Walker)
>Subject: Re: It's NOT illegal to listen......
>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 13:55:33

>Someone please post those cellular frequencies I'm not supposed to listen to
>so I can avoid them.  I'd hate to receive them accidentally and get into
>trouble.


Sure thing, they are between 8**.** Mhz and 8**.** Mhz.

<This message has been pre-santized for your protection>

Steve



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
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Subject: Re: Disneyland Freq's?
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K.C. ([e-mail]) wrote:
: O.K. I'm sorry to ask this question.  I know it's been addressed in the
: past.  My problem is that I've seen interesting freq's posted here and
: there but I haven't written them down because they're not in my area.
: Now if I'd thought ahead, I'd have written them down so that I'd have
: them when I took a trip and I wouldn't be having to ask now.

: Anyway, I'm going to Disneyland.  Does anyone have frequencies for me
: to check out?

: K.C.

the DL frequencies are easy to find is you search in the 464-465mhz area!
don't rememb er the exact frequencies but I know i found several
frequencies in that range!
JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Compusa307)
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Subject: Re: Disneyland Freq's?
Date: 12 Oct 1995 08:18:55 -0400
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>Disneyland (Anaheim, CA.)
>464.325   security
>464.5375  maint.
>464.6375  emergency common
>464.4125  maint.
>464.5125  spec. events/fireworks
>464.4875  operations
>464.4625  security
>462.575   hotel security
>464.7625  trains/monorail
>464.0375  ride contrl
>154.570   security
>154.600   submarine

PLUS the NEW trunking system:
938.3875/.400/.4375/.4500/.4625/.475/.4875/.500
Steve in Escondido



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:27 1995
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From: "T. Simpson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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        I'm game!!!!!!

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jackson Gough)
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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In article <45gtjn$[e-mail]>, JACK
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> FREECALLS WORLD WIDE E-MAIL ME FOR INFO




Yeah that's pretty funny.  I'm sure glad you put it in rec.humor before
you get shipped to jail on Federal Charges of Fraud.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:29 1995
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From: Tony <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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-- I want some info, please.
Thanks.


    Tony Guerrero Esquina       AX25Net : [e-mail]
    Apdo  677   CP  01080       AMPRNet : [e-mail]
[44.133.01.32]
    VITORIA  ( ALAVA )          E-mail  : [e-mail]
           SPAIN





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From: Tony <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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-- I want some info, please.
Thanks.


    Tony Guerrero Esquina       AX25Net : [e-mail]
    Apdo  677   CP  01080       AMPRNet : [e-mail]
[44.133.01.32]
    VITORIA  ( ALAVA )          E-mail  : [e-mail]
           SPAIN





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:31 1995
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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$50 bucks says this is some stupid person pushing IPhone.
 ________ ______
/___  __/__  __/
   / /    / /
  /_/he  /_/roll


mailto:[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:32 1995
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the reverse-psychology major ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <ac7cb$[e-mail]>, Tony  <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >
: >
: >-- I want some info, please.
: >Thanks.
: -- i want your sister, please?
: thanks
-- I want money, fast please.
Thanks.

--
G. Hiddink                            :  "It's your bizarre appearance that
[e-mail]        :           puts colour on this grey"
University of Twente, The Netherlands : Dance
http://www.cs.utwente.nl/~hiddinkg    :  or Die on their album "Everspring"


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:34 1995
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Gerrit Hiddink) writes:
>the reverse-psychology major ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: In article <ac7cb$[e-mail]>, Tony  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>: >
>: >
>: >-- I want some info, please.
>: >Thanks.
>: -- i want your sister, please?
>: thanks
>-- I want money, fast please.
>Thanks.
>
I want sex, please
Thanks



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:35 1995
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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[e-mail] (the reverse-psychology major) wrote:
>In article <ac7cb$[e-mail]>, Tony  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>-- I want some info, please.
>>Thanks.
>--- i want your sister, please?
>thanks
>
>beelzibub
>
Take my wife. Pleeeeeease!
Boomer



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In article <45jstd$[e-mail]>, The Troll <adam_strohl@hh
s.dresden.k12.nh.us> writes
>$50 bucks says this is some stupid person pushing IPhone.
> ________ ______
>/___  __/__  __/
>   / /    / /
>  /_/he  /_/roll
>
>
>mailto:[e-mail]
>
>

What's IPhone? (He asked in a dumb voice)


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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:38 1995
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Subject: Cell phone clone question
From: [e-mail] (John Avery)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 17:56:00 -0820
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I'm looking for info on cloning cell phones so that two phones can share
the same telephone number.

A company named CeTech posted a notice in Alt.manufacturing last July
stating that they were looking for people who wanted training and
equipment to do this. I called them today, but got a recording that the
number had been disconnected. I assume they went out of business.
Does anybody know anything about CeTech. Are they still in business?

On the other hand, does anyone know anything about cell phone cloning.
I'd like to clone the one permanently mounted in my car so that I can
share the number with my Motorola flip phone. No one else drives my car,
so there is no possibility that both phones would go on line at the same
time. Do the phones have to be made by the same manufacturer?

I'd like info about anything involved in this. Rather than waste
bandwidth, please e-mail me at:  [e-mail]
 If anyone else is interested in this info, e-mail me and I'll e-mail
 you copies of the replies (if any) I receive.

I would be interested in info (1) as a consumer; and (2) as a possible
business opportunity. I would think that quite a few people are wasting
$30 or more each month for an extra phone number. I can personally think
of at least 5 people right now. I wouldn't think it would be illegal,
but I'm sure cell phone companies would rather not have people cancel a
second phone number.

Information super highway do your stuff.

Thanks. John.
---
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Just say  NO  to the Clipper chip


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:38 1995
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From: craig todd gafah <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cell phone clone question
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Cloning cell phones is HIGHLY illegal, no matter what it is used for.  A
person that is close to me wanted to do the exact same thing you want to
do, and was unable to do it.  Any semi-honest cell phone dealer will NOT
clone a phone for you.  It may sound stupid but it is for your own
protection, people would be cloning phones left and right if dealers were
that flexible.


                                Craig


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:40 1995
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>Cloning cell phones is HIGHLY illegal, no matter what it is used for.

I would like to see anyone come up with the actual law that states that
cloning is illegal.  Some states have separate laws that do prevent this but
there is nothing from a Federal standpoint.  The only thing that I have ever
come across is several FCC rules that state such things as altering the ESN by
any method other than the manufacturer's speficitation is illegal.  If someone
is using the same method as the manufacturer then it is not Illegal.  This is
how most places clone phones.

Now to actually answer the mans question without playing parent for him.  Give
CelluSoft technologies a call at [phone].  I have found them to be
quite reputable.  They can help you with your own phone as well as helping
others while making some money for yourself.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: Cell phone clone question
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craig todd gafah <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Cloning cell phones is HIGHLY illegal, no matter what it is used for.  A

>person that is close to me wanted to do the exact same thing you want to

>do, and was unable to do it.  Any semi-honest cell phone dealer will NOT

>clone a phone for you.  It may sound stupid but it is for your own
>protection

And so that the cellular phone companies can make more money by requiring
you to purchase multiple phones, service contracts, activation fees, etc.
 I would guess this is the primary reason why cloning is illegal.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM





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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John Avery)
writes:
>
>
>I'm looking for info on cloning cell phones so that two phones can
share
>the same telephone number.

This is a very un-wise course of action.  Under Title 18 of the USC
section's 1028 and 1029,  The use of cloned cellular phones is
considered fraudulent.
    A number of Cellular providers are now offering rate plans that
would allow you to have two or three phones work off of the same
number.  Any phone will work under these plans and they would still
have their individual ESN's intact.  By cloning your phone and using it
in a network where this type of service is offered you would be
commiting fraud against the carrier.  I am not telling anyone what they
should do, but it would be prudent to check out all the facts before
doing anything that could possibly be illegal.
                            DC


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Is it possible to modify the Radio Shack Pro-35 to receive the
800 mhz cellular bands ? Any answer would be appreciated.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:43 1995
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Does anyone know of software I can use with my LOGIC LIMITED
Franklin Converter so that I can monitor ACARS? Any info
is greatly appreciated.

Jim Floyd, KB9KID
[e-mail]



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Does anyone know of software I can use with my LOGIC LIMITED
Franklin Converter so that I can monitor ACARS? Any info
is greatly appreciated.

Jim Floyd, KB9KID
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:44 1995
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Hi Jim,

>Does anyone know of software I can use with my LOGIC LIMITED
>Franklin Converter so that I can monitor ACARS? Any info
>is greatly appreciated.

I don't know anything about this decoder you are mentioning, but ACARS
are little tricky to decode. Some decoders from Universal Radio like
M-400 and M-8000 can decode ACARS together with a software from Skyview
Systems (UK). I prefere the software which works great.

Best Regards

Lennart

Middle of Sweden ....





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Hall)
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In the 151 mc. you have your fast food drive thru freq. what band area do
they use and it must be a different freq. from business with higher
power..thanks..Jeff


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Edward Mills)
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I have a Realistic Pro-46 handheld scanner and am very happy with it.
The question I have is:  Does anyone know how to build a signal strength
meter that can be inserted in series between the rubber duck antenna and
the scanner?  I would like to have an analog signal strength meter on my
scanner because it would be very useful in finding where signals are
coming from.

post info to rec.radio.scanner or email



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Keith Knipschild)
Subject: Electronics Now/Popular Electronics
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Iam looking for a Schematic that was in Either magazine
in issue Aug/Sept/Oct....Its a schematic that allow one to connect
a FAX Machine to a MODEM (fax) so that you can use the Fax Machine
like a Image SCANNER...

If you have it, please let me know..

Thanks,
Keith

Http://www.asb.com/usr/keith




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Donn Mumma)
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Subject: Re: Ellington Field Houston freqs?
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 23:49:09 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Chris
Williams) wrote:

: Can anyone tell me the frequencies used by Ellington Field in
: Houston, Texas (tower, ATC, ...) ? There will be an airshow down there
: on the weekend of Oct. 21.

For starters,

109.4   ATIS (Automated Terminal Information System)
121.6   ground control?
126.05  tower
126.2   tower (military traffic?)
269.9   ATIS

In the past, they've also used several additional frequencies during the
air show.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:48 1995
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Subject: Uniden BearCat 890XLTres?
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Re: BC890XLT...

Have any of you folks tried scanning the 220 MHz Ham band ?
I bought one when they just came out...it didn't scan this band
in the proper step size.  (Perhaps they've updated the firmware
since..)

I was also disappointed with the poor sensitivity and selectivity
of the unit. It does not compare to my PRO-2004 and 2006.

There's something about the volume to wieght ratio that didn't appeal
to me too...My PRO-2004 and 2006 have some substance to their size...
the weight feels appropriate for their size...the 890 feels like there
is nothing inside.  A look inside revealed that there really isn't much
there compared to its somewhat bulky volume. Keep in mind that this is a
personal 'thing'...not to say that the larger something is, the heavier
it should be as result of the contents...Electronic items just have that
appeal to me.

I like the looks and the VFO control but functionally the BC-890XLT
wasn't a hit in my books.

Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto




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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:50 1995
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Subject: Wide band RX amplifier recommendations
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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 95 22:01:26 EST
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>
> I am looking for a widebanded RX amplifier and would like some
> reccomendations.  It will be used in a rural environment so overload is not
> a problem.
>
> I would like the following specs...
>
>
> Actual RF amplification performed at antenna
> Adjustable gain
> 30Mhz - 470 Mhz (or higher) coverage
> Integrated selectable FM BCB trap
> Relatively low noise gain
>
>
> I've seen the RS amps, but was hoping that there was better amplifiers for
> the dollar.  As these were built for US/Can TV reception, I think these will
> only amplify freqs >54Mhz; and I would like the 45Mhz PS band to also be
> amplified.
>
> Any further info on the RS amps and/or other brands would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brad Steinman, N8ZRP
> Internet:  [e-mail]
> AMPRNet :  [e-mail]


I see you're a Ham...
Why don't you homebrew an amp ?
Have you looked into the MMIC's ?  They are 50 ohm in/ 50 ohm out gain
blocks...no need for input or output impedance matching.
They're very stable and require nothing other than a resistor and
perhaps an RF choke for external components (to bias and decouple the DC
supply).  4 leads...IN/OUT and 2 grounds.  DC Power is supplied via the
OUT lead. They are very wideband...something like DC to 1 or 2 GHz.

Avantek (HP) and Minicircuits make these little gems. I used to see
Minicircuits advertise them on the back cover of some of the electronic
magazines.
Look into it. They might be just what you're looking for.
You could incorporate your own BCB traps and step type attenuators
to accomodate your needs too !

Hugh Duff  VA3TO  Toronto




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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:51 1995
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Sorry, the Amateur Radio Home Page's location is in fact

http://www.uq.edu.au:80/~bgmborth/

sorry about the inconvenience, keep the email coming!


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:52 1995
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From: [e-mail]
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Hello Everyone,
I have aquired a Uniden UBC2500XLT scanner. Unfortunately the previous owner
 had lost the manual (which sort of explains why there was only about 30
Channels programmed in it). What I would like to know is-

1 - is there any way of selecting a 'Non-Standard' mode at a particular frequency.
 eg Wide FM at 400Mhz

2 - is there a way of clearing a bank of frequencies in one hit.

3- Any other neat stuff.

I already know about holding down the following groups of keys and turning it on

2,9,MANUAL      Clears everything
2,9,SCAN        Enters 'Test' Frequencies
2,9,LCK         Displays a Software Version
2,9,L/O         Displays all LCD Segments

                                                IanC



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From: [e-mail] (tunaman)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Rafael Sa <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>  Just wondering.... Is that virtualy possible to make a World-Wide VHF
>transmition?? A transmition that can be "hear" all over the planet, let's
>say, in the 100-200 Mhz frequency ? Is that possible? If so, how power the
>transmition station will have to be? And the antenna, how tall will have
>to be?
>
>  JUST curious... :)
>
>--
>[]s+
>Rafael Sa
>Internet: [e-mail]
>Knowledge BBS - [phone] - 24h - 28k8 - Brazil
>
Rafael,
        Sorry, it's not possible.  VHF would never carry world-wide.
Ever consider shortwave?
                        John




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In article <[e-mail]>,
Rafael Sa <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>  Just wondering.... Is that virtualy possible to make a World-Wide VHF
>transmition?? A transmition that can be "hear" all over the planet, let's
>say, in the 100-200 Mhz frequency ? Is that possible? If so, how power the
>transmition station will have to be? And the antenna, how tall will have
>to be?
>
>  JUST curious... :)
>
>--
>[]s+
>Rafael Sa

Rafael,
        Sorry, it's not possible.  VHF wouldn't carry this far.  Have
you ever considered shortwave?
                        John




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:54 1995
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From: Judhi Prasetyo <[e-mail]>
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Subject: POCSAG
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Again about POCSAG decoder,

I've tried pd-102.exe but not satisfied enough with it.
Any one can give me information about another software like this ?

Thank's

-jps




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Terry Fugate)
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Subject: Re: RADAR UNITS??!!
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (-) says:
>
>This past weekend I went to a hamfest, there I saw some guy selling
>used MPH doppler radar units (model K55) - out of police cars.
>I couldn't help but wonder if it was legal to own and/or operate one
>of these things.
>
>Does anyone have any idea?
>
>ps. they were $150 - not bad for a toy.
>
>
>-> bh

I think the K55 is an older K band radar.  If memory servers me, 24.150
is the operating frequency and is samck dab in the middle of a ham
allocation.  If you get an Xband 10.125 just retune it down into our
Xband allocation.  You might have to wire in a cw ider, you know for
"beacon" operation.  Of course the cw id tone might drive other in
band radars ought of their mind. The front end on radars is frightfully
simple.  You have a transmit oscillator feeding the waveguide/horn,
and a "hole" in the wave guide to couple both transmit and reflected
energy into a diode and the output from that goes to an audio chain...
A modulated Xband ham source can be heard on a typical police radar
at a good distance.  Most people don't realize that a cop can hear
the dopplar returns.  It sounds like a bunch of tropical birds(on LSD).
Ask you officer friendly to for a "ridealong".  Be sure to pick a cop
with a radar.  You will be amazed at how different objects sound.
Large flat ones are LOUD, some cars have a real small (quite) return.
.............................................................................
Terry Fugate
UKTV
University of Kentucky
"The opinions expressed herein are mine, and soley mine.  They do not
represent the official view of the University of Kentucky,
the State of Kentucky, or any agency of any government.
If you do not like my opinion, just get on with your life.
I will not change your mind and you damn sure can not change mine."


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From: [e-mail] (Terry Fugate)
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In article <45j4mj$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Terry Fugate) says:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (-) says:
>>
>>This past weekend I went to a hamfest, there I saw some guy selling
>>used MPH doppler radar units (model K55) - out of police cars.
Sorry slightly wrong frequencies.....
Ham xBand= 10.0 to 10.5GHz Police Xband = 10.525GHz
Ham Kband= 24.0 to 24.250GHz police Kband = 24.150GHz

.............................................................................
Terry Fugate
UKTV
University of Kentucky
"The opinions expressed herein are mine, and soley mine.  They do not
represent the official view of the University of Kentucky,
the State of Kentucky, or any agency of any government.
If you do not like my opinion, just get on with your life.
I will not change your mind and you damn sure can not change mine."


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Chris Coupland)
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Subject: Re: Pro 2006, info needed
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In article <4519a6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Shane McCarthy) says:
>
>        A local fellow has a Pro 2006 scanner for sale.  He says it 2.5 yrs
>old.  Does this scanner have the ability to scan celluar.  If not is
>there mods that can be done to make it celluar capable.
>        Also what freq. does celluar use.  Thanks.
>
>--
        Go for it... you can't beat a pro2006 with anything in it's price range..
It can be easily modified by clipping the diodes:
        D502-- to allow cellular
And,    D503-- to increase scan rate to 30ch/sec
Cellular is in the 869-894MHz range.
Good luck!


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:09:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Ailsworth)
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Subject: Re: Antenna for VHF-Lo Band?
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 14:58:22 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
> SK>[e-mail] (G. Berlin) wrote:
>
> SK>>  My question is this: because of my FD involvement, I need
> SK>>  to monitor
> SK>>freq's around 33 Mhz.  I am now putting in a second scanner in the
> SK>>car, but don't have an antenna for it.  I have a glass mount, but
> SK>>it was terrible th
>
> SK>>last time I used it.  Would using my already mounted CB antenna be
> SK>>a good
> SK>idea?
> SK>>If not, any ideas?

Down 'n' dirty solution:  Get 10m or so of copper wire.  Wind it about ten
times around the end of your antenna.  Run it out the window to a tree (or in
my case, to the balcony).  To increase usable length, I don't use shielded
portions indoors, so I sometimes experience minor interference from indoor
devices.  In the case of very weak signals, I therefore sometimes break the
circuit feeding the wall outlets near which the wire passes (easier than
unplugging the whole AV system).

Don't leave the wire attached to your machine during lightning storms.<):-!>

Silly and low-tech, but it works great for both SW and >30 MHz VHF Lo.  It
even improves reception of...you know...those Curtis Wheeler xmns around 46
and 49 MHz.  Hee hee.


Ken

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Display Backlight on PRO2006, SW100
Message-ID: <1995Oct12.041455.6212@cmkrnl>
Date: 12 Oct 95 04:14:55 PDT
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In article <45g3ee$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Chris Malcolm) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Donn Mumma) writes:
>>There was some discussion here recently regarding the longevity of the
>>green display backlight on the PRO2006 scanner.
>
>>Is the same technology used in the Sony SW100 shortwave receiver?
>
> What technology is that?

Pro 2006 uses an EL panel, which fades over a relatively short time.

SW100 uses green LED(s), which don't.

        --- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego CA
Internet: [e-mail] (JH645)  CompuServe: 74140,2055


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From: [e-mail] (d ddd)
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Subject: PRO-32 FOR SALE
Date: 12 Oct 1995 17:34:48 GMT
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Scanner for sale

Radio Shack PRO-32A Handheld scanner  $150  (cost $300 new)
200 Channel Programmable Scanner with 10 banks of 20 channels
Covers
 30-54  MHz
108-174 MHz
380-512 MHz

Scans 8 or 4 channels/sec.
Light does not work, otherwise in very good condition
Runs on 6 AA batteries or 9V AC adapter (Adapter included)

In original packaging with original instruction manual

I will include the 1989 Edition of Police Call, Volume 7 covering AL, AR,
LA, MS, OK, TN, and TX
I will also include Betty Bearcat National Police Frequency Directory

The closest current RadioShack model is the PRO-62  Which is the same but
scans faster at 25 ch/sec.  and gets some of the 800-900 MHz bands.
The PRO-62 Sells for $299

E-mail me at [e-mail] if interested


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:02 1995
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From: Matthew R Brummer <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: PRO-32 FOR SALE (price police on scene)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 15:07:11 -0500
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Whoa!!!  Does this price include a bottle of vaseline??

I've seen PRO-39's go for that kind of money and they have 800 mhz
capability, potential for a cell mod, and hyperscan (25 chan/sec).

But it's difficult to estimate the actual value of the scanner in
this deal since frequency directories are included.  :)

BTW: New PRO-39's were $299 & Radio Shack closed them out at only $185 a
few months ago...

--> Matt

[e-mail]


On 12 Oct 1995, d ddd wrote:

: Scanner for sale
:
: Radio Shack PRO-32A Handheld scanner $150 (cost $300 new)
: 200 Channel Programmable Scanner with 10 banks of 20 channels
: Covers
:  30-54  MHz
: 108-174 MHz
: 380-512 MHz
:
: Scans 8 or 4 channels/sec.
: Light does not work, otherwise in very good condition
: Runs on 6 AA batteries or 9V AC adapter (Adapter included)
:
: In original packaging with original instruction manual
:
: I will include the 1989 Edition of Police Call, Volume 7 covering AL, AR,
: LA, MS, OK, TN, and TX
: I will also include Betty Bearcat National Police Frequency Directory
:
: The closest current RadioShack model is the PRO-62  Which is the same but
: scans faster at 25 ch/sec.  and gets some of the 800-900 MHz bands.
: The PRO-62 Sells for $299
:
: E-mail me at [e-mail] if interested



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-32 FOR SALE
Date: 12 Oct 1995 22:06:41 GMT
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>Radio Shack PRO-32A Handheld scanner  $150  (cost $300 new)
>200 Channel Programmable Scanner with 10 banks of 20 channels
>Covers
> 30-54  MHz
>108-174 MHz
>380-512 MHz


$150 for a used scanner that does NOT receive 800Mhz??!!  What kind of
funny stuff have you been smokin'?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM


(Hey Captain Jim...we got another one!!!)



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Subject: Re: 1000's of mods
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In article <45d6b6$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Bill Rogers" writes:

> Ham radio archives at Buffalo?? Please elaborate!
>
>
> Bill

Can't find the address of the original... but there is
a mirror at

scitsc.wlv.ac.uk /pub/hamradio/buffalo.mirror/mods

Paul

--
Paul Richards


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
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Subject: Re: Unidentified Music Broadcast
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> On 928.9125 I receive strong music broadcasts.

This is indeed Muzak (or its local equivilent). It is licensed under the
Private Operational-Fixed Microwave Service as a "multiple address system"
i.e. from a single xmitter to multiple rcvrs. The usual allocations are
928-929 and 952-960 MHz.
                                                           /* barry /&


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From: [e-mail] (JESSE S. JAHN)
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Subject: Lambert-St. Louis(McDonnell Douglas Freqs) and Andrews AFB
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Can anyone help me out with freqs for these 2 locations?


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From: [e-mail] (John Thompson)
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Subject: Scanners to find Garage Door Opener Freqs?????
Date: 12 Oct 1995 22:17:19 GMT
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I this possible?  What are the frequencies that garage door openers use?
If it is possible to hear a garage door opener, could one record the sounds
and then re-transmit it on the same frequency to open a door?

E-mail me if you know anything about this.!

Thanks,

John
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail] (Charlie Thompson)
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Subject: Re: Scanners to find Garage Door Opener Freqs?????
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In article <45k45f$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Thompson) says:
>
>I this possible?  What are the frequencies that garage door openers use?
>If it is possible to hear a garage door opener, could one record the sounds
>and then re-transmit it on the same frequency to open a door?
>
>E-mail me if you know anything about this.!
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
>[e-mail]
>
>


If memory serves me correctly they mainly operate between 290 and 310 MHz.

-c.t.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Alfred A. Berti)
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Subject: Re: New AOR8000; some questions.
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As far as the charger goes, I interpet the manual the same as you do-  my
guess is that the charge circuitry  can't handle the running load, but is
sufficent to trickle charge the AA cells overnight.

Scanstar Gold is the only program I know of to modify the AOR 8000 code.

Call EEB's BBS for more info.  [phone]

Albe




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Cloning cell phones as far as I know is very illegal. The reason is
fraud. The cellular industry looks at call records as a sign of fraud.
If calls are in two far flung locations at the same (or close to same)
time. Someone has probably stolen your number. The cell companies could
have done a better job of protecting the ESN of legit phones. But for
now one phone, one number, one account. You could get call forwarding
from your wireline carrier and just route your calls to the appropriate
phone. Also some carriers are working on a system to allow more than
one phone per number. May take a while though. The fraud thing has a
lot to do with it. Some Carriers (such as Airtouch Cellular Northern
Cal.) allow you to register several phones with the same number. When
you want to use a different phone you call them and ask for an ESN
change. Takes about 5 minutes to activate.
RS


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>Cloning cell phones as far as I know is very illegal.

Many ppl in this group say this very same thing.  All that I have to say is
that it is only illegal if you get caught.

The fraud thing has a
>lot to do with it. Some Carriers (such as Airtouch Cellular Northern
>Cal.) allow you to register several phones with the same number. When
>you want to use a different phone you call them and ask for an ESN
>change.

They will gladly bend you over without using any Vasoline.



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I have some questions regarding cellular systems any ideas??

1)  Can one determine the type of cell site layout from the physical
cell site location and control channel assignment (such as 3/9 4/12
7/21 clusters)? Can one determine the SAT number by layout?

2)  How are future cell sites planned? Are all of the possible cell
site locations determined up front or are they incorporated later on an
needed basis?

3)  If a cell site has three sectors but only one control channel how
are the channel sets allocated? How are the control channel allocations
determined?

4) How would a technology like CDMA (which uses a different channel
size) be incorporated into an exisiting AMPS cellular infrastructure?

5) Why are can a connection suffer from bad reception (particulary for
more than 30 seconds) if the SAT tone is looped through for voice
channel quality? Especially in lightly loaded cells where a new channel
or site is available for hand-off?

6) What exactly takes place when a cellular system is retuned? How long
does it take? Is the system down during this process?

7) What happened to D-amps (TDMA) some carriers were pursuing it then
stopped? Why is echo such a problem in TDMA digital?

8) Do adjacent cellular carriers work together on channel allocation?

9) Can the cell site "force" a report of the MIN & ESN from the
handset?

10) How does air temperature affect 800 MHZ signal propogation on flat
land? Is inter-cluster interference more likely at higher temperatures?

11) If a cell site has an overlaid-underlaid architecture how many
control channels are used? one or two? Is the handoff between over and
underlaid cells done from the SAT level?

Thanks for your help. I appreciate an ideas :-)

RS



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (A.van Boven)
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Subject: Information about Comtell 102
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 21:05:31 GMT
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Hello folks,

Is there anyone who knows where i can get information about the
Commtel 102 handheld 10-channel computer-scanner.
I'd like to change the bandwidth and i want to know if it is possible
to create more channels.
So in short: I LIKE IT ALL....

Thanks,
Aad van Boven
The Netherlands



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From: [e-mail] (Anthony A. Robinson)
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Subject: Re: Track and follow trunking communications...
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 01:52:50 GMT
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[e-mail] (D Stark) wrote:
>       So, which is it?  Trunking or cellular?  I will just point out that,
>if you have developed a circuit for tracking cellular calls, use of
>such a circuit violates US law.

'Use', I might agree, although 'use' would be hard to prove. Maybe he
did it for 'research' -- personal gratification.  ;)  (If I am not
mistaken, one can still get circuit designs to 'undo'
speech-inversion, yet I don't hear about a made rush to haul these
folks into court.)

>Posting the plans for such a device
>in the newsgroup will only provide another example for those people
>who want to censor the Internet because illegal things are available
>there.

I suppose we should all just stop talking and writing about things
that just happen to make *other people* a little uncomfortable? And
pray tell us where your 'examples' would stop, eh?

Can you say 'politically correct'? I knew you could. <geez>



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:14 1995
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From: Rich Sheff <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RE: MYSTERY CORDLESS PHON
Date: 13 Oct 1995 00:54:39 GMT
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Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Mike McCarty) wrote:
>>In article <44uecf$[e-mail]>,
>>Curtis Wheeler  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>)
>>)Can I monitor the phones calls on the cable in my back yard?
>
>>RF contained in a cable is not intentionally radiated, only incidentally
>>if at all. There is therefore a distinction made between the examples
>>you give.
>
>I am just applying the prevailing logic being thrown around in this
>thread.  It's in my yard so I can listen to it.
>
>--
>Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA

There is a difference, if the cable is radiating out a signal that
you can receive without tapping into it, then yes you would be able
to legally monitor the signal.  In fact, the cable owner/operator
would be violating the law by allowing the leakage to continue.

If you're talking about physically tapping into the cable, then you're
talking about trespassing on private property (the cable), even
though it's on public property (the utility easement).

If there is a RF signal travelling through free-air, that can be
picked up with an antenna, then it is fair game to be monitored.  This
is in my opinion.

I happen to be an Electronics Tech in the U.S. Navy, and they have
a simple method of preventing unwanted monitoring: encryption.  Even
with as much as I dislike the Clipper set-up, it would prevent the
average person from monitoring their conversation.  (Based on current
technology levels.)

I don't really care for monitoring others phonecalls personally, as
most of them are rather boring, but I don't like the moronic methods
non-tech types try to use to stop me from being able to do so.




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rick Burt)
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Subject: Houston freqs
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 05:06:00 GMT
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I live in far NW Houston, around Jersey Village.  Can anybody tell me
the frequencies for the Jersey Village Police, plus local fire,
ambulance, etc.?

Thanks

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Rick Burt
[e-mail]

Cultural quiz:
"I would not, could not, did not"
<Q. Who spoke those famous words?
<A. The Cat in *Green Eggs and Ham*
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:16 1995
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Subject: GMRS licensing requirements?
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What are the licensing requirements, fees, and privileges for GMRS?  I've seen
the applications that come with the Maxon units, and they seem pretty cryptic.
I also heard the fees have gone up from $35 to $80??  Then there are rumors the
FCC is considering dropping the licensing requirements...

Do you need licensing to operate on the "splinter frequencies"?

GMRS sounds useful, but I'm confused about the requirements.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

G.



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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: GMRS licensing requirements?
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Apparently, not too many folks are spending the $35, $80, or whatever for
the license.  In my "neighborhood" most all the GMRS frequencies are
active, and I have yet to hear a set of call letters.  They're all
apparently unlicensed and nobody cares.  Kind of like CB back when the
FCC "required" licenses to operate them.

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (131H30000-STEPHEN CHU(MT4084)NOBIN)
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In article <45kne0$[e-mail]>,
Drew Durigan <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Apparently, not too many folks are spending the $35, $80, or whatever for
>the license.  In my "neighborhood" most all the GMRS frequencies are
>active, and I have yet to hear a set of call letters.  They're all
>apparently unlicensed and nobody cares.  Kind of like CB back when the
>FCC "required" licenses to operate them.
>
>-Drew in Charlotte-
> KF4DDM
>

Current GMRS licensing fee is at $75 for 5 years (this is what I was
told by the FCC Land Mobile / GMRS branch in Gettysburg, PA).

You should have a "sample" application that accompany the "blank"
application from the MAXON unit you've purchased.

- Steve
  AT&T
  Middletown, NJ

  Internet: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:18 1995
From: [e-mail] (Ed Walsh)
Subject: Nat'l Freq List on CD
Date: 13 Oct 95 03:09:32 -0700
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I am interested in purchasing a nationwide frequency list on CD-Rom.
I understand that a few companies offer such a CD.  Can anyone
suggest one that appears to be accurate and has a friendly inerface?

Thanks in Advance!

Ed,  Monitoring San Diego



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (aaron)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Trident Scanners
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 07:53:04 GMT
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Hi,
I was just wondering on peoples opinions on the trident line of
scanners, sold by ace communcations. Email would be appreciated:
[e-mail]

Thanks



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:20 1995
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RS PRO-26 Info/Comments Wanted
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Bob Shew <[e-mail]>)
Date: 12 Oct 95 21:06:20 EST
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I just noticed Radio Shack's top of the line handheld scanner, the
PRO-26, is on sale.  It covers from 20 (or so) Hz to 1.3 gigahertz
minus cellular freqs.  It has super fast search and hyperscan.
Any experience with this scanner?  How about mods to restore the
"missing" freqs?

Thanks in advance,

Bob
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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (William Bailey )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanner for Sale
Date: 13 Oct 1995 07:45:07 GMT
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I have a Radio Shack Pro-35 Portable scanner I'd like to sell. 100
channel programable, but does not have 800 or 900 MHZ. Is this
an appropriate area to do it?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Piel)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner for Sale
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William Bailey ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I have a Radio Shack Pro-35 Portable scanner I'd like to sell. 100
: channel programable, but does not have 800 or 900 MHZ. Is this
: an appropriate area to do it?

Scanners are sold in this group, but be careful how much you ask for yours.
The Scanner Price Police patrol this group vigorously, and will issue
citations to any price violators.

                                        -Stephan Piel


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dodo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Icom R1
Date: 13 Oct 1995 09:21:27 GMT
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Hi,

I have a Icom R1 ,
have you any suggestion for the best use for this scanner..

which is the best antenna for the R1 ?

Users of R1 tell me your impression about this scanner !!!


        Thanks in advance       Dodo







From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
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Subject: Re: Icom R1
Date: 13 Oct 1995 20:01:08 -0400
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In article <45lb2n$[e-mail]>, Dodo <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a Icom R1 ,
>have you any suggestion for the best use for this scanner..

Situations where tiny size is the ONLY consideration.

>which is the best antenna for the R1 ?

The one that it comes with.  It is deliberately deaf.
An antenna having more gain will run the risk of adding to overload and
false image problems.


--
Mike Schuster       |        [e-mail] | [e-mail]
------------------- | [e-mail] | GEnie: MSCHUSTER


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (clyde gregg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Uniden BCT-7 problems...
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 21:49:26 GMT
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  Shortly after purchasing this scanner I learned that there was a software
problem that resulted in not being able to lockout frequencies.  I sent it
back to the manufacturer to have the software update, and got it back
yesterday after 2 weeks.  Guess what?  It STILL doesn't work!  I don't
frequent this group often, but has anyone else had similar problems?  I've
tried LOCKOUT, DATA SKIP ON, ...

  Any recommendations on another brand of mobile scanner should I decide to
request a refund?

                                                   Thanks!




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:25 1995
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From: John Fogg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Mods for BC2500 &/or BC3000 ??
Date: 13 Oct 1995 12:20:23 GMT
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        Would anyone know if there are any mods for the BC2500 and/or
the BC3000. I am thinking about purchasing one but I would like to
know if they can be modified in any way. Such as speed, channel
capacity, 800 Mhz band, etc..  I've been reading other comments about
these radios such as sensitivity issues and the comments have
very helpful. Please keep the opinions and comments coming.
Any help would be appreciated.

                 Thanks - John











From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Brunelle)
Date: 12 Oct 95 21:21:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: broken r.shack 038
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Hello! I hope someone can help me! My radio shack 038 scanner stopped
working...totally dead..i opened it up and found a small wire
only about 1 inch floating around in there! there are only 1 other wire inside
(which is much longer) and it is connected...my question is....does anyone know
where this wire belongs...to make matters worse, i'm an electronic illiterate,
so i don't know the names of any
of the components inside :(.....


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Frederick Kelcz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AOR8000 & Icom CI-V Interface
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 07:40:23 +1000
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Purchased an Aor8000 and Scout 400 combo and the Scout can control
the AOR8000 with the mod and connecting cable as advertized.  The Scout
via its built in CI-V interface and tune my Icom R7100 as well.

My question - Can I use the CI-V interface I bought with the Icom to connect
the Aor8000 to my computer?  From what I gather - the cable connector mod
is only OUTGOING data when in AOR format.  Does this mean if I choose
CI-V mode on the AOR instead of AOR mode that I can connect my Icom interface
between my computer and the AOR8000 and so save the $100 - 125 needed to buy
one of the three"AOR-approved" interfaces?

Thanks for any info.

Fred K
N9SLR
Frederick Kelcz, PhD, MD
Dept. of Radiology
University of Wisconsin, Madison


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:29 1995
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
From: [e-mail] (Anon E Mouse)
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>Purchased an Aor8000 and Scout 400 combo and the Scout can control
>the AOR8000 with the mod and connecting cable as advertized.  The Scout
>via its built in CI-V interface and tune my Icom R7100 as well.
>
>My question - Can I use the CI-V interface I bought with the Icom to connect
>the Aor8000 to my computer?

Not without modifying the CI-V interface.

>From what I gather - the cable connector mod
>is only OUTGOING data when in AOR format.

You're sounding confused. The mod is done to the AR8000 and not the
Scout. The interface on the Scout is already CI-V compatible and is
bi-directional. It will already work via your Icom CI-V interface to
allow your Scout and PC to talk to each other in both directions
without any modifications.

The AR8000 mod is an INPUT to the scanner and not an output. It allows
data to be RECEIVED by the AR8000 and will not allow data to to be
sent FROM the AR8000.

The ideal solution to this, and one I have carried out with success,
is to carry out the mod to the AR8000 but to use a stereo jack socket
instead of a mono one.

What you then do is connect the AR8000's RX data line AND the TX data
line to the tip and ring of the jack socket.

That way you get both lines through that socket.

When you want to use the Scout you use it as indicated in the
instructions and as per the mod.

To allow your AR8000 to talk to yout PC, and vice versa, you would
plug in a stereo jack plug to the AR8000 and route that to your PC via
a suitable interface.

A suitable interface can be made for about $10 or so or you can do a
minor modification to your Icom CI-V interface to allow it to function
the same way as the CU8232 and similar interfaces do.


>Does this mean if I choose CI-V mode on the AOR instead of AOR mode
>that I can connect my Icom interface between my computer and the
>AOR8000 and so save the $100 - 125 needed to buy one of the three
>"AOR-approved" interfaces?

The AR8000 doesn't HAVE a CI-V mode.



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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (T▓)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: OPTO OS 456 Software
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:27:43 GMT
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Is anyone aware of a shareware program for controlling an OPTO 456
board in a PRO 2006 scanner.  If you know of any, please E_mail me.

THANKS!



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Lou Milrad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: FS: Motorola Saber c/w charger, mic, & extra battery
Date: 12 Oct 1995 23:33:51 -0400
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Securenet VHF Saber (Model H43QXK7139AN) in excellent condition, both
cosmetically and operationally, with new antenna, 2  new batteries, belt
clip, rapid charger, and microphone.  Will only sell as a package for firm
price of $1000 plus shipping charges OR will consider trade for 800 MHz MT
2000 or possibly 400 MHz MT 2000.

--
Lou Milrad
VE3TRY
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:32 1995
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From: skindell <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Drake R8A Windows Program (3rd Party)
Date: 13 Oct 1995 15:34:31 GMT
Organization: Rust Net - High Speed Internet in Detroit  810-642-2276
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You can download the sampler from our home web page:

   http://www.rust.net/~skindell/drake.html

WAIT TILL YOU SEE THE FINAL VERSION!!!!



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:32 1995
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From: Gee Ng <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Scanners in Canada
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My understanding is that you can purchase scanners in Canada that are cellular
capable(at least for now), but they are considered contraband by U.S. Customs,
and could be confiscated if you try to bring them across the border.

I don't know if the RadShacks in Canada sell cell-cap units.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Raymond Semenoff)
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Subject: Re: Scanners in Canada
Date: 14 Oct 1995 03:56:52 GMT
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Gee Ng ([e-mail]) wrote:
: My understanding is that you can purchase scanners in Canada that are cellular
: capable(at least for now), but they are considered contraband by U.S. Customs,
: and could be confiscated if you try to bring them across the border.

: I don't know if the RadShacks in Canada sell cell-cap units.


Canadian Radio Shack scanners are the same as US models.  There may be
some old stack sitting on the shelves up here though!

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From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Stewart  Jeffrey C)
Subject: Pro-46 Modifications
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I noticed a similar question in an earlier article but there was no
response...

Is there any mod that can be performed on this scanner to turn off the
annoying "beep" every time you hit a button on the unit?

Other than that I enjoy using the radio!

Thanks in advance!

Jeff


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Simon Kay)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 3 Things I need to know...Ant's and 6400Ch.
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 15:11:03
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Ok, I live on floor 23 of a 30 floor condo, nowhere to mount an outdoor ant.
What's the best ant to use indoor, or for the inside of my car. I have a
corvette convertible, no roof, no magnetic surface.....???
Also, does anyone know about the 6400 channel mod for the 2006? The antenna
Q's are most important here...any help would be greatly appreciated. HI TO ALL
YOU T.O. DWELLERS....Any new freq's in the Toronto area? I found the drive
through at Tim Hortons (DVP and Sheppard) on WFM 921.*****.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Price Patrol
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:23:00 -0400
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Let's get a debate going on scanner prices and the price patrol. There are
lots of people here, myself included, who have an idea of what something
should sell for (and I suppose what something is really worth). I've sold
a BC200, AOR1000, PRO2006 w/ Opto interface and PRO51 through this group.
I got the prices that I wanted and the buyers, I presume, think they got a
good deal. But let's talk about prices and see if we can come up with an
acceptable range for some of the more popular scanners. If nothing else,
if there is a consensus on what something is worth, then the price patrol
can be damned, right?

And what about the price patrol? Who in the hell are these folks and what
makes them so smart? Think those guys who sign off as the Captain, Chief
or General in charge of the Price Patrol are really scanner savvy or are
they low-balling jerks who doesn't know their butts from buttons?

To start the ball rolling, I say a fair price for a PRO2006 in mint
condition is $325. A mint Icom 7100 (no gaps) is worth $1600. A BC200 with
cell mod in mint condition is worth $175. I base my prices on
desireability of the unit, cellular capability and of course, condition
(mine are always perfect because I'm Morris the Cat finicky).

Don't waste time flaming me if you don't agree with my prices. Put your
two cents worth in and let's get the equivalent of a Blue Book going...

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]
_____________________________________________________________________Coming to a bookstore near you in November:
The Underground Guide to Computer Security, by Michael Alexander;
published by Addison-Wesley Publishing Company.

"He's lost enough data to fill a small black hole."
_____________________________________________________________________


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas W. Demers)
Subject: Re: Price Patrol
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (Thomas W. Demers)
Organization: The National Capital FreeNet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 05:10:13 GMT
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The price police dude is usually right on target........
--
Life's to short to worry...  :)


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Hammon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro 2005 & Pro 39
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 18:15:38 -0500
Organization: Dr Human, Inc
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I'm selling a Pro 2005 Base unit (it looks and operates just like the 2006,
just not as fast).  It is a 400 channel 25Mhz to 1.3GHz (with a break for
UHF TV 520-760) unit.  It has been modified for cell and increased scan
speed.  Works flawlessly and is in perfect shape.  Asking around $300.
From what I've heard, This is the base scanner to have if you can't find a
2006.

Also selling my Pro 39.  Has been modified for cell.  Works perfectly,
looks pretty good. Asking $150 for this one.

Price police may feel free to make an adjustment if deemed appropriate.

Thanks
Bill Hammon
[e-mail]
http://rampages.onramp.net/~drhuman




From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: What's the Canadian => US $ conversion ?
Date: 13 Oct 1995 12:33:34 -0400
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What is the conversion rate from Canadian $ => US $

Any by the way, what was the cheapest the 2006 were going for in Canada ?

Thanks


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary M. Glickman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Q for SCOUT owners
Date: 13 Oct 1995 12:52:39 -0400
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The Opto SCOUT (and the newer "Cub") look like nifty devices. Any owners
willing to share their experiences?

How (and how well) do these things work day-to-day? How close to various
transmitters do you have to be to capture a frequency? How well do they
work in an urban environment? Mobile?

And what can I do with a SCOUT and OS456 board (WAVE software?)

Any comments would be welcome. Please Email and I'll post a summary. Thanks.

--

Gary M. Glickman
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (-)
Subject: Federal Regulations???
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Can anyone direct me to a source where I can obtain/or see a copy
of the "Code of Federal Regulations #47" ?

This is what the FCC guy told be to get regarding civilian use of
radar units. (part 82 end: rule #90.103, Eligibility)

-> bh


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike McCarty)
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Subject: Re: Federal Regulations???
Date: 13 Oct 1995 23:04:31 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>, - <[e-mail]> wrote:
)Can anyone direct me to a source where I can obtain/or see a copy
)of the "Code of Federal Regulations #47" ?
)
)This is what the FCC guy told be to get regarding civilian use of
)radar units. (part 82 end: rule #90.103, Eligibility)
)
)-> bh

If you live in a reasonably large city you ought to be able to find it
in your local library.

CFR 47 Part 15 is the famous "Part 15" for unlicensed transmitters.

Mike
----
char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}

I don't speak for DSC.         <- They make me say that.


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Waldemar Kowalski)
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Subject: Re: Yupiteru MVT-7200
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 23:51:36 GMT
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Jeff Goldman <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I'm the happy guinea pig. My full report is on CompuServe HamNet S2. It
>really is a superb scanner! Guaranteed, there'll be no interest in it on
snip snip

I have a brother-in-law working in London, coming back in a month, who
has previously brought me an MVT7100. I'm now considering selling it
and having him bring me either the 7200 or the AOR8000. I'll get your
7200 report off HamnetS2, but any recommendations from you or other
"power scanner" types as to which I should get?

TIA!



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (BILL DILLSTROM )
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Subject: Any FRG-9600 owners out there??
Date: 14 Oct 1995 00:49:48 GMT
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 Hello, and thanks for reading this. A friend of mine and myself just
recently purchased 2 Yaesu FRG-9600"S. They are a neat little machine
but somewhat limited in their scanning functions. But with the computer
control capabilities they can be programmed to utilize more scanning
memories and perform functions that most of the modern units will do.
Anyway, i am looking for CAT software for these little gems. If your
actively using a FRG-9600 with some sort of scanning software i would
love to talk to you. There are some outboard converters in use also for
these units. They allow you to receive the entire HF spectrum. I would
like to find out more about them also. Please email me if your familiar
with either of these things.

Many thanks....Bill in Las Vegas, Nv.



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (tvyp)
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Subject: FS:  RS Pro 43 Handheld Scanner & Accessories
Date: 13 Oct 1995 22:31:53 -0400
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        For Sale:       Radio Shack PRO 43 handheld scanner
                        - Includes RS AC adapter/charger
                        - Service manual
                        - Cell restore mod
                        - RS speaker upgraded
                        - Beep mod (no beep when keys pressed)

                        The unit is in very good condition.  There are
                        two minor scratches on the unit as I did use it
                        now and then.  Selling due to upgrade (PRO 26 UK).

                        Asking $225 (plus $5 shipping)

Prefer prepaid via certified funds or credit card (VISA/MC/AMEX).





From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:45 1995
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It seems like it should be possible. Why couldn't your modem decode dial
tone? Or does it not "receive" dial tones? For that matter, what's the
most inexpensive way to get dial tones translated into actual numbers?


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Anderson)
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In article <45io4v$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>Tell me more ![e-mail]
>
Hello!!! I do like of receiver informations!!!
Thanks!
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Lanciani)
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Subject: RS Discone parts available
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I recently replaced one of the (in)famous Radio Shack discones with a
different unit and now I have the remains sitting around.  Half of the
ground-plane elements had broken off at their studs, but everything
else seems ok.  So, anyone looking for spare parts, now is your chance...
I'm in Gloucester (near Boston), MA if anyone would like to grab pieces.
Mailing might be possible as well.

                                Dan Lanciani
                                ddl@harvard.*


From [e-mail] Sat Oct 14 04:10:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Subject: Re: Q: Ground Wave Network Towers?
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Tim Tyler ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >
: >>    GWEN is not used for direct comms with submarines.
: >
: >Guess it depends on what you mean by "direct".  My understanding is
: >that GWEN is a ELF network used to transmit data at very slow rates
: >(one character every few seconds).  These characters have prearranged
: >meanings, such as "surface and get more detailed info" or "do line X
: >in book Y".   It's one-way only - the subs must communicate back to
: >shore via some other method.
: >

:    You're confusing GWEN with other networks.

You might tell that to the commander of the station here in Oregon. He
says his site is used exactly as listed above. Now, it may have other
purposes, but I cannot think of any.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:26:54 1995
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Subject: Re: ***The CrookBook***
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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PU>I mailed the  guy...Grade - B-...

I mailed Compuserve...who agreed with me that his mal-posted ad was a
violation of the Service Terms between himself and CIS.

Clint Bradford

 * 1st 2.00 #8286 * If space is a vacuum, who changes the bags?
---
 ■ wcECHO 4.1 ≈ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details ■ Mira Loma, CA ■ 909-681-6221


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:26:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 262.350 & 262.300 NBFM
Date: 16 Oct 1995 02:03:08 GMT
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wfm ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : W(>Anyone else monitored the traffic on 262.350 and 262.300 (NBFM)?
: : W(>I first heard friday night and as of tonight (tues) it
: : W(>was still active.
: : W(>bill

: : What was it that you heard on this Freq.

: Many tatical call signs including 3 whiskey and two tango doing
: radio checks in the clear then send encryted traffic.  This has
: been going on since friday night and was still active last time
: I checked on thrusday evening.  262.350 was the primary freq with
: 262.300 alternate.  I have often monitored Satcom traffic but it
: is usually short and sweet and most is encrypted.  This traffic
: is by far the longest unencrypted I have ever heard.  No clues
: as to who or where either/any of the parties are.  Only thing
: was on saturday about three pm eastern time they were talking
: about going to "chow", for what ever that is worth.
: I have a 2005 with a Diamond Discone and a Grove preamp and live
: in NE PA.
: bill

What you are hearing is military FLSATCOM traffic and also military
dispatch traffic. The Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, and Coast Guard use
the 225-400mhz area for operations and Air Traffic Control Frequencies.
Most facilities that have frequencies in the VHF (Victor) 118-136 area
also have companion UHF (Uniform) 225-400 frequencies

here in Phoenix one of the Tracon frequency pairs is 124.1 / 269.6

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:26:56 1995
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From: [e-mail] (keith evans)
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Subject: 8000 computer interface
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 13:14:43 UNDEFINED
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I am having problems getting the computer interface to
work with my AOR 8000.  I have tried every com port
address combination and it does not run from the
computer.  I am using a nine pin cable adapter so that
the interface (which is 25 pin) will work with my nine
pin computer serial port.  All of the addresses are
correctly alligned but I am not getting any power.
Any help would be much appreciated.  TIA keith.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:26:56 1995
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From: [e-mail] (David Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A way to make modem decode dial tone...
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 18:17:27 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

>It seems like it should be possible. Why couldn't your modem decode dial
>tone? Or does it not "receive" dial tones? For that matter, what's the
>most inexpensive way to get dial tones translated into actual numbers?

I assume that by "dial tone", you really mean DTMF or Touch Tone.
Only certain modems, typically those designed with voice mail
features, are able to decode DTMF tones.  I had a ZyXEL U-1496E that
was able to do it.

One neat, cheap trick I've learned is to use a digital pager to decode
tones.  You dial up your pager, and then play the tones through the
telephone handset.  When your pager beeps, you have the decoded
numbers.   Of course this can't be done in real time, so you'll have
to tape record your scanning session.

David Grant



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:26:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: A way to make modem decode dial tone...
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David Grant ([e-mail]) wrote:

: [e-mail] wrote:

: >It seems like it should be possible. Why couldn't your modem decode dial
: >tone? Or does it not "receive" dial tones? For that matter, what's the
: >most inexpensive way to get dial tones translated into actual numbers?

: I assume that by "dial tone", you really mean DTMF or Touch Tone.
: Only certain modems, typically those designed with voice mail
: features, are able to decode DTMF tones.  I had a ZyXEL U-1496E that
: was able to do it.

: One neat, cheap trick I've learned is to use a digital pager to decode
: tones.  You dial up your pager, and then play the tones through the
: telephone handset.  When your pager beeps, you have the decoded
: numbers.   Of course this can't be done in real time, so you'll have
: to tape record your scanning session.

Another, and quicker way to do it is as follows.  Call up any Octel (or
similar) voice mail networks and try to access a users (or your own)
mailbox.  Play your DTMF tones into the phone as if you were trying to enter
the password.  On my voice mail it repeats the numbers you've entered (up to
16) and tells you, "1234537820 is not a valid password, please re-enter now".

It's cheap and dirty - but if you're in the car you can do it with the
cellular too.  8-D

Cheers!

Andy


 --------------------------------------------------------------
 : Come play Realms of Despair! telnet://realms.game.org:4000 :
 --------------------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:26:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Graeme Bartlett)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A World-Wide VHF (??)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 09:05:03 GMT
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>Rafael Sa <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>  Just wondering.... Is that virtualy possible to make a World-Wide VHF
>>transmition?? A transmition that can be "hear" all over the planet, let's
>>say, in the 100-200 Mhz frequency ? Is that possible? If so, how power the
>>transmition station will have to be? And the antenna, how tall will have
>>to be?
Another option to shortwave is to use a satellite.  A geostationary
satellite can cover almost half of the earth in one broadcast. For
example the US fleetcomsat is around 261 MHz can be heard almost
everywhere on the earth thanks to several satellites.

An orbitting satellite in polar orbit will cover all of the earth in
turn.  There are weather satellites around 137 and 138 MHz and
navigation satellites on 150 and 400MHz that can easily be heard on a
scanner.  These satellites transmitters could have less than a hundred
watts.
If you wanted to send out a wideband signal like TV or WFM you would
need from 10 000 to a million watts to compete with other broadcasters
and cover a hemisphere on the world.

Good luck with your VHF transmission project.  Please let us know the
frequency you use, so that we can monitor it! :-)




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andy VanDuyne)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: A World-Wide VHF (??)
Date: 16 Oct 1995 22:19:30 -0400
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In article <45qmlb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Graeme Bartlett) wrote:

> For example the US fleetcomsat is around 261 MHz can be heard almost
> everywhere on the earth thanks to several satellites.

My interest is piqued...  where might I find the freqs, and what is
the mode?

===============================================================
        Andy VanDuyne aka n2psl aka [e-mail]
    I'm paying for this account- my employer has nothing to
                          do with it.
===============================================================


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ron Katz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Added Airport frequncies to Web Page http://www.interlog.com/~ronkatz/
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:10:48 GMT
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   I added a Airport and Aircraft section to my Web Page.

 Because there are so many airports it is difficult to know what to
add and it takes a lot of time to do it.

  If you find the need for ANY AIRPORT FREQUENCY IN  CANADA please
e-mail me and I will add and/or  e-mail you what I have.

Ron Katz
http://www.interlog.com/~ronkatz/




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:01 1995
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From: john <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Breaking News Network
Date: 17 Oct 1995 03:20:37 GMT
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I am a member of the public safety paging notification network called BNN
in search of other members.  Located in Delaware, I operate off the DC
Group, but while in DE, i supply information to the NJ group.  I would
highly recommend this #1 network to all that are thinking of subscribing
to a public safety network.  I find 9/10 of that pages I receive highly
informative; containing details of incidents of all kinds--EMS, Fire, and
Police.

For more information on this network and others that are members I would
love to correspond with you, email me at  [e-mail]

john




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (l.j.)
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Subject: CA Prison Freq's Wanted
Date: 15 Oct 1995 21:25:43 GMT
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I live near a State Prison in Vacaville CA. Anybody know the freq.'s
for this facility? Thanks!!!!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:03 1995
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I don't have the frequencies, bu t the facility may be better known as the
California Medical Facility.

Leonard

stts guest.1


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:03 1995
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Can a modem decode dial tones, if software is written for this purpose?
Or is additional hardware needed?


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:04 1995
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[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Can a modem decode dial tones, if software is written for this purpose?
> Or is additional hardware needed?
While I can't answer this question, I know that Ramsey Electronics
make a very nice kit that does just that.  I built one, and it
decodes touch tones very nicely.

Richard Broomfield
<[e-mail]>


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DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS OR 800 NUMBER SO WE CAN
CONTACT RAMSEY ELECTRONICS AND CHECK OUT THEIR
DTMF DECODER KIT?


H. WYSMULEK
[e-mail]
BLUE SKY FREENET



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:06 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Oxner)
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Subject: Re: Canadian Snowbird freqs?
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[e-mail] (Darwin Pharo) wrote:

>
>   I attended a airshow last weekend that the Snowbirds were at and I
>attempted at listening in on them, I had little to no sucess! Does anyone
>have the most current freqs for them, if so please post so all may share!
>
>   Thanks in advance!!
I went to an airshow at Shearwater NS in September of this year and
they used 245.75 AM.

-Mike
[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:07 1995
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From: Dick Williams <[e-mail]>
Subject: Casino Freqs/Kansas City
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Kansas City MO now has 3 riverboat casinos in operation.

I've found the freq for Sam's Town Slots  463.8875 mhz.
Fairly interesting to hear the jackpot payouts - would be interested in
emailing anyone else with experience /interest in such monitoring.

Haven't located the Argosy or Harrah's freqs yet.  I will give a tip for
prospecting for an unknown freq -  others might have better tips.
Get close by the site, the parking lot will do,   remove the
scanner antenna to eliminate weak signals. Use search mode in the most
likely bands,  I've been trying 461 to 464 mhz. Found Sams Town that way,
haven't found the others yet.   The "Beyond Police Call" book shows
typical freqs for casino operations, under NV, NJ, MS sections. Our
newer riverboats here in KC aren't listed yet.

Any other tips?  Freqs to share?

Dick Williams   Kansas City MO




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Wayne Joyner)
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Subject: Re: Casino Freqs/Kansas City
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Dick Williams <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Kansas City MO now has 3 riverboat casinos in operation.

>I've found the freq for Sam's Town Slots  463.8875 mhz.
>Fairly interesting to hear the jackpot payouts - would be interested in
>emailing anyone else with experience /interest in such monitoring.

>Haven't located the Argosy or Harrah's freqs yet.  I will give a tip for
>prospecting for an unknown freq -  others might have better tips.
>Get close by the site, the parking lot will do,   remove the
>scanner antenna to eliminate weak signals. Use search mode in the most
>likely bands,  I've been trying 461 to 464 mhz. Found Sams Town that way,
>haven't found the others yet.   The "Beyond Police Call" book shows
>typical freqs for casino operations, under NV, NJ, MS sections. Our
>newer riverboats here in KC aren't listed yet.

>Any other tips?  Freqs to share?

>Dick Williams   Kansas City MO


President Riverboat Casino              St. Louis
461.2000
461.7000
461.9000
463.6500
463.6750
464.1500

Bruce Wayne Joyner, ECNE
Internet   :[e-mail]
CompuServe : 71513.131
Omaha, NE



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:09 1995
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I'll answer my own inquiry about KC Riverboat freqs. In a prior message I
metioned Sams Towns  at 463.8875 mhz - that seems to pertain mostly to
their slot machines operations.

Today I located a freq for Harrah's North Kansas City casino at 460.7125
mhz.   Not as much action as the Sams Town freq - more routine security
calls, escorts for money handlers,  assistance with customers, etc.

I was asked off the property while prospecting for the freq. I had parked
off the road near some new construction but guess I was noticed by
security or management.  They didn't question my scanner or reason for
being there and I did get the freq I was interested in.  I made sure I had
the scanner turned down when they asked me to leave the construction area.

So add a new tip for propecting for freqs - blend in the with crowd, don't
be obvious.  My first stakeout and I was busted after about 10 minutes.
The parking lot would have been fine, I was alone, away from other cars
and thus attracted attention.

Dick Williams
Kansas City MO



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ed Ellers)
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Subject: Re: Cell phone clone question
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...

>Technically it's still legal to "clone" a phone. As long as it's YOUR
>phone and YOUR number. It's in the same area of laws that allows you to
>have more than one phone in your house. Now the cell phone co's are
>really pressing hard to make ANY cloning illegal because the crime of
>cloning is out of control. I haven't heard any thing more on this but, I
>wouldn't expect legal cloning to hold on much longer. Theres a few places
>that advertise a "clone" phone. They're usually in the back of car mags
>(Car and Driver comes to mind).

Check the FCC rules -- they forbid any such changes to the electronic serial
number of the phone.



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From: [e-mail] (Ed Velez)
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[e-mail] (James Dean) wrote:

>Here in Georgia cloning is common, although not really accepted by the
>phone company.  The reason they don't like cloning is because there is
>always a possibility that both phones will accidentally be turned on at
>the same time, which confuses the hell out of the systems computers.
>Well, that and the extra thirty bucks a month they get for the other
>phone if it's not cloned.  Also, they now have a way to fingerprint phone
>transmissions to see determine if the "right" phone is being used, which
>makes cloning impossible.
>-
>  JAMES DEAN KD4USF  [e-mail]
>  Yes that's really my name.
>

The above product that detects RF fingerprints is already in use in
NYC and LA and future cities are in the works(San Fran). So its a
matter of time before the legal cloners are driven out. But then again
there are more 'illegal' cloners than legal which is what the cellular
carriers are trying to combat.

Ed Velez / Corsair Communications
Taking the bite out of cellular fraud...



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:13 1995
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cell phone clone question
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 18:48:51 -0700
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Drew Durigan wrote:
>
> craig todd gafah <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >Cloning cell phones is HIGHLY illegal, no matter what it is used for.  A
>
> >person that is close to me wanted to do the exact same thing you want to
>
> >do, and was unable to do it.  Any semi-honest cell phone dealer will NOT
>
> >clone a phone for you.  It may sound stupid but it is for your own
> >protection
>
> And so that the cellular phone companies can make more money by requiring
> you to purchase multiple phones, service contracts, activation fees, etc.
>  I would guess this is the primary reason why cloning is illegal.

Cloning is illegal for a couple of reasons.

First off, yes it does have to do with revenue for the cellular carriers.
One of the things the tarriffed rates are based on is service access.  One
phone number - one ESN - one phone.  You cannot compare cellular service to
your wireline home service, where you can just keep adding extensions and
phones until the telephone company can't make them ring anymore.

Cloning a phone means you are circumventing the access limits and you are
defrauding the carrier.  Face it, it's their radio service.  They are
entitled to revenue from each station on the system.  The customer has to
pay for each station he uses on the system.

The other thing to consider is that you are not in effective control of the
link between your cellular an the carrier.  In other words, the end
user/customer is not consider a radio operator.  About the only control you
have over it is turning the phone's power on an off.  The phone is
controlled by the network (power, channel selection, signalling, etc).
Your phone is a radio station operating on the network under the carrier's
license, so you can't make internal alterations to it, like cloning the
ESN, and use it on the network without their permission.

Many cellular providers are now able to offer the same number to appear on
a second phone.  GTE Mobilnet offers it here and call it "The One Plan".
It allows a second phone to have the same number as your primary number.
But again that is a tariffed service and there is a charge for it - but its
less than activating and paying for separate service.  The catch on this
service is that your second phone cannot roam.  This is because all of the
systems that the carriers use to support roaming are not capable of it, and
many carriers still see the same phone number under two ESNs to be a
conflict.  Only your primary ESN phone number combination will be in the
databases used to validate roamers.

The second reason is simply fraud protection.  If both of your phones come
up at the same time (and at some point, they probably will) you will cause
glare conditions is the networks that will indicate possible fraud.  Many
carriers are now installing new equipment that maps the the RF signature of
your phone to your phone number as an additional measure of fraud
detection.  So it is partially for your own protection, and partially for
theirs.

--
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA


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>many carriers still see the same phone number under two ESNs to be a
>conflict.  Only your primary ESN phone number combination will be in
the
>databases used to validate roamers.

I am curious why the cellular switch cannot allow multiple entries into
the HLR (Home location Register). Is it possible to have a system where
several phones (within reason) can be registered to the switch, then
the user can select the active one with a *xx entry?

When roaming does the visited MTSO VLR rely on the Home carriers'
database for validation or does it just check a national negative ESN
table?
RS


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Cloning cellular phones in itself is not illegal - using more thtan
one at a time, however, is illegal.  I have been working at Bell Labs
for quite some time on several projects that look at cellular clones,
velocity checking, tumbling fraud, etc.  Some of the systems look
for more than one cellular phone operating at the same time or operating
at unreasonable distance/time situations (cannot operate a cellular
phone in California at 1:00 PM EST and then in New York at 2:00 PM EST).
These systems usually do not disconnect cellular phone calls, but will
report the Mobile Iden. Numbers (MINs) to the respective cellular
companies.

Ed Berberich


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:16 1995
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Subject: Re: cellular listening is FUN

JM>All this business about it being illegal to monitor cellular calls is a
  >smoke screen.

No, it's called Federal law.

Do you regularly flaunt and ignore, say, tax laws, too? Or highway
speed limits?

Clint Bradford

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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Si Ballenger)
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In article <45a62b$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>Hello fellow scanner lovers!
>
>How about helping Drew fill up his memory banks?  I arrived here in
>Charlotte a few months ago and began scanning in my new neighborhood.
>Since then, I have found the Charlotte PD on their 860Mhz trunked
>frequencies as well as most...but not all 42Mhz NC State Patrol
>frequencies.  But that leaves a lot of available memories left to
>program!  What do you have for Charlotte and surrounding counties?
>Police, fire, EMT, county sheriffs, interesting business band, news crews,
> etc.  Also would appreciate some freqs for Rock Hill, SC (25 miles S. of
>Charlotte) as I also spend quite a bit of time down there.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Drew in Charlotte
>KF4DDM
>


Here's some Rock Hill freq. to get you started;
Rock Hill police: 154.800, 154.890, 155.610,
Winthrop: 154.740
HP: 42.120
Hospital/EMS: 155.340, 155.385, 155.265, 155.325
SLED: 154.665
York Co.: 158.730, 158.805
RR: 161.100, 160.950, 160.515

For NC frequencies, I used to get them from the NC EMS BBS. I haven't
called in a long time so I don't know if it is still in operation. They had
listings by county. Time on the bbs was limited to 30 min. per day. Most
files were zipped for downloading. 704-637-6906        Till later, Si B.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (GZiolkowsk)
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Subject: Re: clonig cell phones
Date: 16 Oct 1995 06:43:16 -0400
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dayglo)
writes:

>
>Many ppl in this group say this very same thing.  All that I have to say
is
>that it is only illegal if you get caught.
>
>

Yeah, just what we need in this country; more attitudes like that........


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Fordyce)
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Subject: CT,NJ, Northeastern area freq. lists wanted
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I've been expanding the scope of my WWW site
(http://www.li.net/~j4dice/scanli.html) to include frequency lists and scanning
info. (radio codes, unit ID's etc.) for the Northeastern states, and am seeking
recent lists for Northeastern locations to add to the page.  If you have a list
you'd like me to add to the site, feel free to drop it to me via e-mail
([e-mail]) and I'll add it to the page.  Corrections and/or additions to
the lists already there are also welcomed.

Jim Fordyce



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
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Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
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Erik Finskas (csb1_95) ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Cellular phone technology have been running for about 10 years, in the
: beginning : there was no good solution for digital system. If such were
: developed, the quality of voice could be horrible. Now there are few
: worldwide digital standards for mobile phones

I think digital phones should have gone digital from the beginning. If
that had been the case there would not be such a level of cell phone
fraud like there is now!!

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


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In <[e-mail]> Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>
>Work on cellular communications started back in the 60's or
>early 70's (believe it or not).  I seem to remember being told
>that the AMPS standard we use for analog cellular in the US was
>developed established in 70's also.  Digital at that time was
>probably too big and expensive to make it practical.
>
>I don't of any carriers that are running CDMA in the U.S.
>just yet.  TDMA cellular is running in U.S. in several markets.
> CellularOne is aggressivly marketing digital service in
>California based on TDMA.
>
>--
>Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA

I think Airtouch cellualr nor-cal will have CDMA digital in place. I am
not certain if will be the first. Cellular one (Now AT$T Wireless here
in nor-cal told me they are not pushing digital. About a year ago they
were offer tremendous incentives to go digital then it all disappeared!
There response was there have had a lot of problems with the digital
system. For my area the system is Errickson. I am not familier with the
Bay Area Market but suspect perfected or not they need to have digital
subcribers due to market saturation. As for the idea of cellualr that
goes back to Bell labs proposal to the FCC in 1958 (Docket # 11997).
The technical feasibity for an 800 Mhz system in 1974. I think the
first commercial system went on line in Chicgao (Illinois Bell) in
January 1978.

Compact computer technology that brought large scale cellular radio to
system to fruition. Digital systems rely more on comuter technology to
operate. I suspect digital wasn't to feasible in the beginning while
there was a stronger knowledge base for analogue. Digital will be
intensely pursued in the future for two reasons. One being the increase
of spectrum effiency (more users per sq kilometer)and the ability to
send data over the voice networks more reliably (and in packet form)
than Cellular Digital Packet Data (CDPD) or anaolgue switched
connections.

If anyone has had experience with the early cellular systems I would
like to hear about it. Particulary cell site spacing, sound quality and
connection reliability. Thanks


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan A. Balogh)
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Subject: Re: Digital Cell Phones
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[e-mail] (John Moran) wrote:

>I think digital phones should have gone digital from the beginning. If
>that had been the case there would not be such a level of cell phone
>fraud like there is now!!

>JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!

The information that hackers intercept for their cloning is sent over
the control channel frequencies which are digital (frequency-shift
keying).  The fact that the information (Electronic Serial Number,
etc.) is PLAIN TEXT is the reason why there is so much fraud.

Dan
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
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Subject: Re: Disneyland Freq's?
Date: 16 Oct 1995 02:30:33 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

: GP>In article <45e6qn$[e-mail]>
: GP>[e-mail] (K.C.) writes:

: GP>> Anyway, I'm going to Disneyland.  Does anyone have frequencies for me
: GP>> to check out?
: GP>>
: GP>> K.C.
: GP>Disneyland (Anaheim, CA.)
: GP>464.325   security
: GP>464.5375  maint.
: GP>464.6375  emergency common
: GP>464.4125  maint.
: GP>464.5125  spec. events/fireworks
: GP>464.4875  operations
: GP>464.4625  security
: GP>462.575   hotel security
: GP>464.7625  trains/monorail
: GP>464.0375  ride contrl
: GP>154.570   security
: GP>154.600   submarine

: sorry, just about all of these channels are no longer valid.  disneyland
: is on a new 800MHz trunked system.  they're using motorola MTX 8000
: (9000's if it's a 900 system) with top-mounted alpha displays.  i don't
: have the frequencies.

: greg

I have the disney frequencies either in my database or on my FCC CD-ROM.
If you drop me a SASE and ask for `Disney Frequencies', I'll print the
list and send it to you
JA Moran P.O. box 25506 Tepe, AZ  85285

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:24 1995
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Here are the NEW trunking system Freqs:
938.3875/.400/.4375/.4500/.4625/.475/.4875/.500
Steve in Escondido


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What is Groves web page address?
                                     john




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:25 1995
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Subject: Re: Does Grove HAVE a catalog

RU>No catalog.  Their web site says it's free, and I'd really
  >like to order a scantenna.  I've got the money, I've got the mount,
  >but I can't get seem to persuade their customer "service" drones to
  >slip me a catalog.


No - you really do not want to purchase a Scantenna that badly. Else
you'd call them up and order one. Do you need a catalog in hand to call
them voice and order?

Clint Bradford

 * 1st 2.00 #8286 * Madness takes it's toll.  Please have exact change.
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:26 1995
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Grove's web address is:  www.grove.net


R. Allen


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:27 1995
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Does DTMF software exist for those of us with fax-modems that have the
capability to "read" DTMF? My modem uses DTMF to switch from voice to fax
mode, or to allow the listener access to a "secret" message, etc, so I am
sure that DTMF decoding is possible, if the software exists for it. Any
ideas? Mac or PC.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:28 1995
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 test test test

[e-mail] wrote:
: Does DTMF software exist for those of us with fax-modems that have the
: capability to "read" DTMF? My modem uses DTMF to switch from voice to fax
: mode, or to allow the listener access to a "secret" message, etc, so I am
: sure that DTMF decoding is possible, if the software exists for it. Any
: ideas? Mac or PC.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert I Sinclair )
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Subject: experiences with NEXTEL communications (fleet Call)
Date: 16 Oct 1995 04:59:00 GMT
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Has anyone had experience with the NEXTEL (Called Fleet Call in some
parts of the country)radio system. I had done a test and found that NO
ONE (but me of course :-) ). like the sound quality. The system is
based on a propriatary TDMA system from Motorola (Called MIRS) and uses
existing 800 MHZ SMR channels. It is a cellular based system that
combines two way radio, cellular, and paging communications into one
handset. Here are the particulars:

channel Info:

806 to 821 Mhz for mobile transmit
851 to 869 Mhz for base station trasmit
uses 25 Khz channels with 6 TDMA slots per channel
The vocoder operates at a low 4.2 Kbps/slot using Vslep technology
The hansets transmit at 1 watt



I found the system had a tremendous potential if it weren't for the
sound quality and interference to nearby electronic equipment when in
dispatch mode (dispatch is two way comm.). I am curious if the sound
quality has improved over what it was in January 1995. How is the
coverage? Do users like the system? Will the sound quality be forever
hobbled by the low vocoder rate? Has the echo been reduced?

I Appreciate any feedback on this
Thanks Robert-s


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:30 1995
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(Continued from previous message)

  ARRL
  225 Main Street
  Newington, CT  06111

or call them at 1-800-32NEWHAM.

Ask for their "newcomers" package.  It will include more
detailed information, a list of classes and clubs in your
area, and a list of scheduled examinations in your area
also.

If you are near a Radio Shack store, go there and ask for
a book entitled "Now You're Talking".  This book is also
available from the ARRL.  It contains all the information
you need, including study material and sample questions
for the examinations for Novice and Technician licenses.

Good luck, and welcome to the "magical" hobby.

Clint Bradford

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I'm surprised to hear that the normal SS freqs were quiet. Try the NY State
Police freqs as well as aviation freqs. I assume that he will fly into either
Newark
LaGuardia or JFK and helicopter up to Hyde Park. Hudson River traffic is 123.05
and his heli will be callsign "MARINE ONE". Also try 123.1 as this is the New
York City Police Aviation freq. Good Luck.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert I Sinclair )
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I am curious if anyone knows why FM broadcast station antennas resemble
a fork like structure (usually there are four or more of these antennas
stacked on the mast). What is there distribution pattern of this array?

What is inside the shaft like radome on TV Transmitter antennas. Why do
some radomes have a series of "bow Ties" on the exterior.

On a TV Transmitter tower how do they do maintenace, say on the lamps
at the top of the antenna structure. Do they do this while the station
is on air? TV 40 a local UHF station is purported to transmit at some 5
megawatts. Wouldn't one roast like a chicken if you were within a few
feet of the antenna?

What ever happen to "quad" radio, remember the system with 4 speakers?
Did station transmit the quad signal as a single FM carrier or were the
other two channels transmitted on the SCA channels.

Do all stations have SCA channel frequencies available?

Thanks in advance

Robert-s


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike Weihman)
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Subject: Re: FM Radio & TV transmitter Antennas
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Robert I Sinclair ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I am curious if anyone knows why FM broadcast station antennas resemble
: a fork like structure (usually there are four or more of these antennas
: stacked on the mast). What is there distribution pattern of this array?

The antenna bays look like an "X" that is folded around itself... like
one link of a DNA helix.  The distribution is omnidirectional in the
horizontal plane, and dipole-like in the vertical plane.  Their claim
to fame is that they produce circular polarization, so the
polarization of the receiving antenna is unimportant.


: What is inside the shaft like radome on TV Transmitter antennas. Why do
: some radomes have a series of "bow Ties" on the exterior.

Nothing.  Many UHF stations transmit from "slot radiators"; basically
leaky waveguide.  Bow Tie antennas are wide bandwidth radiators used
for VHF TV.  They are directional, so every other one is typically
rotated a quarter turn.


: On a TV Transmitter tower how do they do maintenace, say on the lamps
: at the top of the antenna structure. Do they do this while the station
: is on air? TV 40 a local UHF station is purported to transmit at some 5
: megawatts. Wouldn't one roast like a chicken if you were within a few
: feet of the antenna?

*I'd* sure change that top bulb with the carrier off...


: Do all stations have SCA channel frequencies available?

All FM stations CAN have SCA; not all do.


-mike
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: FM Radio & TV transmitter Antennas
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Robert I Sinclair ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I am curious if anyone knows why FM broadcast station antennas resemble
: a fork like structure (usually there are four or more of these antennas
: stacked on the mast). What is there distribution pattern of this array?

This really depends on the configuration.   Typically, the pattern will
be in the circular or horizontal plane and have an omni-directional or
offset pattern.  If the transmitter is outside of the normal service area
the pattern (typically) will be directed towards the city.  Sometimes the
transmitter will be placed in between the service area and in  the
direction of the nearest/strongest other station sharing that frequency.
This is particularly the case with AM broadcasters.  Sometimes several
arrays are used at the same time to provide "fill" and reduce multi-path
interference on the FM signals.  This is typically at the expense of
maximum distance.  This is the case of the CN Tower in Toronto in
which three sets of two and three radiators are used for all of the FM
stations.

: What is inside the shaft like radome on TV Transmitter antennas. Why do
: some radomes have a series of "bow Ties" on the exterior.

Co-phased brass cones and usually plenty of them for UHF.  These are sort
of like stacks of mini discones if you will.

I'm not familiar with the function of the bowties.   I just assumed they
are the radiating elements for the VHF TV station transmitters.

: On a TV Transmitter tower how do they do maintenace, say on the lamps
: at the top of the antenna structure. Do they do this while the station
: is on air? TV 40 a local UHF station is purported to transmit at some 5
: megawatts. Wouldn't one roast like a chicken if you were within a few
: feet of the antenna?

Usually maintenance is scheduled and the output power is reduced
radically (or turned off) when someone is in close proximity of the tower.
Ie: When my friend was working at an AM broadcaster, he would turn the
transmitter down to 200Watts while he pushed the lawnmower around the
antenna towers.

Most tower lights last a very long time or have fail-safe second and
third lights that kick in.  (red at night, white during day. if red
blows, white kicks in automatically).

Riggers and climbers are very highly paid people and the less they have to
climb the towers the better off the station will be. <G>

: What ever happen to "quad" radio, remember the system with 4 speakers?
: Did station transmit the quad signal as a single FM carrier or were the
: other two channels transmitted on the SCA channels.

I remember quadraphonic 8-tracks but was never aware of any FM
broadcasters transmitting four-channel signals.

: Do all stations have SCA channel frequencies available?

Nope.  But all stations are capable of employing them if they desire.  No
extra power is required to transmit SCA broadcasts.

Hope this helps!

Cheers!

Andy

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Subject: For Sale:  PRO 2006
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Hello,   I have decided to sell my Pro 2006 (I never use it anymore and
recently have obtained an older Pro 43).  If you are interested please
make me an offer.  The 2006 has the cell and "speed" mods already
performed.

Thanks, SJ

Please E-mail if interested.




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        I have a BC 200 XLT Scanner, with a leatherette case, 2 batteries,
   a charger, rubber neck anntenna, and telescoping anntenna.  THe unit
   is also Cellular modded. Email me with an offer.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:37 1995
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How much?

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
Subject: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *
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-=> Quoting Vinay Parikh to All <=-

 VP> I want sex, please
 VP> Thanks

 Are you male or female? Oh well, I guess it doesn't really matter. Just
 grab your ankles and if I'm not there soon, start without me.

... "Don't mince words, Vinay... what do you *REALLY* think?"

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]



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[e-mail] (Anderson) wrote:
>In article <45io4v$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>says...
>>
>>Tell me more ![e-mail]
>>
>Hello!!! I do like of receiver informations!!!
>Thanks!
>[e-mail]
>



Yesh, end maibee yu shud olso gat an Inglish diksonery cumming vith it!


Mai pleasorue.


Peter Lemken



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From: *sunbird* <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.psychology,alt.business.import-export
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 06:13:35 -0500
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T. Simpson wrote:

>         I'm game!!!!!!

<BANG!>

*sunbird*, now you're meat


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:41 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.psychology,alt.business.import-export
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 22:04:57 GMT
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JACK <[e-mail]> wrote:

>FREECALLS WORLD WIDE E-MAIL ME FOR INFO


Yes id like to know how



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:42 1995
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From: T Hanson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Date: 16 Oct 1995 16:53:58 GMT
Organization: Phoenix Data Systems
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free talkin g over the net.  Search vocaltec or Iphone

Would you help me make a sig like yours?




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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:43 1995
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From: T Hanson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Date: 16 Oct 1995 16:54:10 GMT
Organization: Phoenix Data Systems
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free talkin g over the net.  Search vocaltec or Iphone

Would you help me make a sig like yours?




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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Frederic Pargamin)
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.psychology,alt.business.import-export
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 22:15:47 +0100
Organization: French Data Network - Association loi 1901 - Paris - France
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In article (Dans l'article) <45s4bo$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] wrote (Θcrivait)á:

> JACK <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >FREECALLS WORLD WIDE E-MAIL ME FOR INFO
Me to...

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Paris, FRANCE
E-Mail: [e-mail]
CIS: 100617,737
"Win95 seems cool.I'll wait for the Macintosh version."


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:45 1995
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From: bender@doemain (Michael Bender)
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.psychology,alt.business.import-export
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Followup-To: alt.test
Date: 16 Oct 1995 21:51:23 GMT
Organization: SPARK's R US
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References: <45gtjn$[e-mail]> <45s4bo$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
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Frederic Pargamin ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article (Dans l'article) <45s4bo$[e-mail]>,
: [e-mail] wrote (Θcrivait)á:

: > JACK <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >
: > >FREECALLS WORLD WIDE E-MAIL ME FOR INFO
: Me to...
  ^^^^^^^^

Please learn how to use private e-mail and not post these "me too" messages
to all of USENET. Besides, this is most likely an illegal scam.

mike

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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:47 1995
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From: Rocky Hill <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.psychology,alt.business.import-export
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Date: 17 Oct 1995 14:28:30 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
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and I also would like some information regarding this subject.
thank you.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (J A Molina)
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.psychology,alt.business.import-export
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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Date: 17 Oct 1995 12:37:06 GMT
Organization: Florida International University
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Vinay Parikh ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Gerrit Hiddink) writes:
: >the reverse-psychology major ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >: In article <ac7cb$[e-mail]>, Tony  <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >-- I want some info, please.
: >: >Thanks.
: >: -- i want your sister, please?
: >: thanks
: >-- I want money, fast please.
: >Thanks.
: >
: I want sex, please
: Thanks
I want all the above and never have to pay taxes...
Thanks



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:49 1995
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From: Aurelien Broszniowski <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.2600,alt.cellular,alt.cellular-phone-tech,alt.sex,alt.cellular.oki.900,alt.irc.questions,talk.bizarre,soc.singles,alt.ph.uk,alt.architecture,alt.ascii-art,alt.magic,alt.personals,alt.radio.pirate,alt.radio.scanner,alt.sci.sociology,alt.tasteless.jokes,rec.humor,rec.org.mensa,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,sci.psychology,alt.business.import-export
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Date: 17 Oct 1995 16:20:45 GMT
Organization: University of Wolverhampton, U.K.
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Ok, I understood... just a crook...
forget it




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:50 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news
From: Dan <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS : Alinco DR 130 2 meter mobile W/Tone board, $250.00, MINT!
Date: 16 Oct 1995 21:28:19 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Lines: 5
Message-ID: <45uipj$7a8$[e-mail]>

Alinco DR 130 2 meter mobile for sale, MINT, in box with manual,
all access., including EJ-20 U tone squlech decode board.
Radio and tone board cost over $380.00 new, asking $250.00 shipped
to 48.  E-Mail  71242,[e-mail] if    if interested.
Dan


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:50 1995
Path: news.epix.net!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Zipper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS : Pro 51 w/cellular freqs
Date: 17 Oct 1995 15:41:30 GMT
Organization: epix.net
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Message-ID: <460ira$[e-mail]>
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X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.2

For sale : Pro-51 (code 11A3) purchased before Radio Shack realized
that this would pick up cell freqs unmodified.
E-mail offers to [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:51 1995
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From: Tvyp@Tvyp@*user@*site.*domain.org.org (Tvyp)
Date: 13 Oct 95 23:31:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS:  RS Pro 43 Handheld Scanner & Accessories
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Fidonet: PandA's Den BBS Usenet: SATINS/Net330 uucp gateway * PandA's Den BBS *
Lines: 28


From: [e-mail] (tvyp)
Subject: FS:  RS Pro 43 Handheld Scanner & Accessories
Organization: NandO.net

        For Sale:       Radio Shack PRO 43 handheld scanner
                        - Includes RS AC adapter/charger
                        - Service manual
                        - Cell restore mod
                        - RS speaker upgraded
                        - Beep mod (no beep when keys pressed)

                        The unit is in very good condition.  There are
                        two minor scratches on the unit as I did use it
                        now and then.  Selling due to upgrade (PRO 26 UK).

                        Asking $225 (plus $5 shipping)

Prefer prepaid via certified funds or credit card (VISA/MC/AMEX).



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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:52 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!parsifal.nando.net!parsifal.nando.net!not-for-mail
From: [e-mail] (tvyp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS:  RS Pro 43 Handheld Scanner & Accessories
Date: 14 Oct 1995 18:09:35 -0400
Organization: NandO.net
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The unit has been sold.  Thank you for your interest.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Andrew Dalton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: 100 Channel PR0-35 Scanner: $45 + shipping....
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 21:05:20 GMT
Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access [phone]
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X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3

Okay, here goes...this is an excellent 29-512 Mhz scanner
made by Uniden for Radio Shack, includes AC adapter, NiCad battery,
built in recharger, manual. Unit is perfect condition looks great.
Covers all the good stuff from 29Mhz to 512Mhz minus the usual gaps.
I'll sell it to the first taker with $45 plus $5 towards shipping.
This unit has 100 channels and is a super performer....this is a
real deal for a newcomer or to someone who wants a backup scanner
for the car/boar/etc.

[e-mail]

or call [phone] M-F 9-5


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:53 1995
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From: [e-mail]@*user@*site.*domain.org.org (Bill Hammon)
Date: 13 Oct 95 20:15:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro 2005 & Pro 39
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Fidonet: PandA's Den BBS Usenet: SATINS/Net330 uucp gateway * PandA's Den BBS *
Lines: 29


From: [e-mail] (Bill Hammon)
Subject: FS: Pro 2005 & Pro 39
Organization: Dr Human, Inc

I'm selling a Pro 2005 Base unit (it looks and operates just like the 2006,
just not as fast).  It is a 400 channel 25Mhz to 1.3GHz (with a break for
UHF TV 520-760) unit.  It has been modified for cell and increased scan
speed.  Works flawlessly and is in perfect shape.  Asking around $300.
From what I've heard, This is the base scanner to have if you can't find a
2006.

Also selling my Pro 39.  Has been modified for cell.  Works perfectly,
looks pretty good. Asking $150 for this one.

Price police may feel free to make an adjustment if deemed appropriate.

Thanks
Bill Hammon
[e-mail]
http://rampages.onramp.net/~drhuman


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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:54 1995
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro43
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (D. Larson)
Date: 15 Oct 95 11:57:00 MDT
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie
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Path: roper.uwyo.edu!roper.uwyo.edu!nntp
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Subject: PRO-43 FOR SALE
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (D. Larson)
Date: 13 Oct 95 08:31:05 MDT
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Realistic Pro-43 200 channel scanner.  $260.00
Modified for full 800MHz band reception (i.e. cellular).
Also has had the audio mod. and the keypad key entry beep has
been eliminated.  Included are all original materials (including
box and manual), 6 Ni-CAd rechargable batteries and the Service manual.

I can be reached by e-mail at [e-mail] or by
phone at [phone].

Donald Larson
KC7EGB
Laramie Wyoming


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:55 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.intelenet.com!ip83-22.superstore.com!user
From: [e-mail] (Jim Wayda)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: Pro43
Date: 17 Oct 1995 04:36:45 GMT
Organization: Lamers Online, Inc
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Distribution: world
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References: <[e-mail]>
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Holy Price Gouging Batman!

The PRO-43 never sold for this much new! A reasonable price for a cell
capable pro-43 in excellent condition is $200.00 to $225.00. Note that
$225.00 is the absolute maximum.

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police

This has been a public service announcement.


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> Path: roper.uwyo.edu!roper.uwyo.edu!nntp
> Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
> Subject: PRO-43 FOR SALE
> Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
> From: [e-mail] (D. Larson)
> Date: 13 Oct 95 08:31:05 MDT
> Reply-To: [e-mail]
> Distribution: world
> Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie
> Lines: 12
>
> Realistic Pro-43 200 channel scanner.  $260.00
> Modified for full 800MHz band reception (i.e. cellular).
> Also has had the audio mod. and the keypad key entry beep has
> been eliminated.  Included are all original materials (including
> box and manual), 6 Ni-CAd rechargable batteries and the Service manual.
>
> I can be reached by e-mail at [e-mail] or by
> phone at [phone].
>
> Donald Larson
> KC7EGB
> Laramie Wyoming

+-jim
[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Dallal)
Subject: Re: FS: Pro43
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 11:37:24 GMT
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Jim Wayda ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Holy Price Gouging Batman!

: The PRO-43 never sold for this much new! A reasonable price for a cell
: capable pro-43 in excellent condition is $200.00 to $225.00. Note that
: $225.00 is the absolute maximum.

: In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

: > Realistic Pro-43 200 channel scanner.  $260.00
: > Modified for full 800MHz band reception (i.e. cellular).
: > Also has had the audio mod. and the keypad key entry beep has
: > been eliminated.  Included are all original materials (including
: > box and manual), 6 Ni-CAd rechargable batteries and the Service manual.

I'm all for informed consumers,  but the statement that it never sold for
$260 new is incorrect.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FS: Pro43
Date: 17 Oct 1995 16:29:42 GMT
Organization: ACM Network Services
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Message-ID: <460llm$[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] (Jim Wayda) wrote:
> ... [e-mail] wrote:
>> Realistic Pro-43 200 channel scanner.  $260.00
> Holy Price Gouging Batman!
> The PRO-43 never sold for this much new! ...

The original price for the PRO-43 was US$350. $260 is probably a reasonable
asking price.
Turn in your badge and freq. meter - you're suspended for ten days.

/* barry /&  -  Scanner Price Police, Internal Affairs Div.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Chris McGowan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FTP/WWW Site for Freqs.
Date: 15 Oct 1995 23:49:01 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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Hey,
        I'm new to scanners and just bought a used handheld with 16 channels.
It's nothing fancy, but it's a start and the price was right. Anyway, I was
wondering if there are any www or ftp sites that have freq listings for
varies things like cordless phones, police, fire, etc. for certain areas.
Any sites would be gratefull.

                                        Thanks


                                        Chris
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:27:59 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Getting fax-voice-modem to decode DTMF
Date: 15 Oct 1995 16:41:51 GMT
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Is it possible to make one of these fax/voice-mail modems into a DTMF
decoder? I KNOW they receive DTMF, because that's how you tell them, from
a remote site, to turn on the fax or do other things. How can I tap into
my fax/voice/modem's intelligence, and make it decode DTMF for me?


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:00 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: GMRS price/features...Thank you
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 20:34:39 GMT
Organization: iii.net
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Chad Payne <[e-mail]> wrote:>> impressed with their knowledge
about the radio.

>I keep hearing about these GMRS Maxon radios, but have no idea what they
>are.  Are they 11 meter rigs?  Are they AM, FM, SSB or what?  What kind
>of power do they put out.  Any information you can provide would be
>great.  I've been a Side Band CBer for 5 or 6 years, but have never heard
>of GMRS.


>Chad


GMRS is a little wee family radio service, that is run on UHF using
FM, in the 460 someod MHZ range.  I think the liscence fee is
generally around 90 bucks, and the radios can range anywhere from 150
to 1000 dollars when new.   Is ideal for a family radio
system(intended purpose) but communicating out of your liscensed group
is prohibited except for emergencies/motorist aid.  Low user base, but
there are some REACT groups that monitor the emergency channel.

-Dr. Grant






From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:02 1995
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From: Curtis Wheeler <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: GMRS price/features...Thank you
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 17:02:32 -0700
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Chad Payne wrote:

> I keep hearing about these GMRS Maxon radios, but have no idea what they
> are.  Are they 11 meter rigs?  Are they AM, FM, SSB or what?  What kind
> of power do they put out.  Any information you can provide would be
> great.  I've been a Side Band CBer for 5 or 6 years, but have never heard
> of GMRS.

GMRS = General Mobile Radio Service

The "other citizen band".

Limited to personal/family use (with exception of the grand-
fathered commercial users that previously invaded the service).
Operates on 462 and 467 MHz.   Usually FM.
Voice communciations only.  Paging is authorized - but only voice
paging.
Interconnects are prohibited - no phone patching.


--
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Date: 13 Oct 95 22:03:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Handheld Scanners
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Handheld Scanners

In <45kfs9$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Hotrod) writes:
>Sorry guys,but the Pro-43 beats anything ive ever used.Who cares about
>UHF tv channels (525-795).  Most 43's are cellular capable that
>skip at the needed 30khz to get all the cellular channels.Sorry the
>cellular images on new scanners dont cut it on clarity.Scan rate on the
>43 is fairly good also.I'll go 1 on 1 with any scanner with my 43.
>
>From: [e-mail]

I own a Pro-43, Pro-26, Icom R1, AOR-8000, Pro-51, Pro-34, Pro-2006 and
Yupiteru MVT-7100. By far, the best is the Yup. NOTHING comes close for
sensitivity and selectivity over its CONTINUOUS range from 100K to 1.65G.
Add to this 1000 channels, 10 search banks, 500 search pass frequencies,
an excellent light(that lights the keypad too!), and the best audio I've
heard from a handheld. It is also supplied with a belt clip, hand strap,
earphone, 4 NiCads, AC adapter and car adapter. I always recommend this
scanner to anyone looking in its price range($540 US).

I've done extensive comparison between my scanners and would rank them
1. MVT-7100
2. AOR-8000
3. Pro-26
4. Pro-43
5. R-1

If price were the major consideration I would give the thumbs up to the Pro-26
since it has most of the features of the MVT-7100(but not all) and can be
had mail order for about $340 US(probably slightly more if you get a Eurpoean
version w/o the cell block). Can't recommend a Pro-43 because you're not
likely to get ahold of one these days. Even if you could, the slightly higher
price of the Pro-26 is justified by the wider frequency coverage and the
several
new features.

I stay away from the Uniden's because of the rechargable batteries(to me
they're
a pain - I get enough of recharging with my Ham radio batteries!). And I love
the UHF TV stations because I can always tune in to the news - like when
8 of us at work were huddled around my scanner awaiting the outcome of
the OJ trial.

Enough said...

Rich
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:04 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Chiasson)
Subject: How many coaxial cable manufacturers?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Toronto Free-Net
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 02:59:14 GMT
Lines: 9

How many and what manufacturers are there that make coaxial cables?
I know there is Belden, Andrews, Carol (General), CQ (Wireman).
Any others?


G.C.





From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:05 1995
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: How many coaxial cable manufacturers?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
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Gary Chiasson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: How many and what manufacturers are there that make coaxial cables?
: I know there is Belden, Andrews, Carol (General), CQ (Wireman).
: Any others?

Times Microwave Systems.  Their coax is almost as good as Andrew and it's
a LOT less expensive.

Cheers!

Andy




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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Pwguth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Icom R1
Date: 15 Oct 1995 11:21:59 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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I like my R1. It does indeed have all of the problems mentioned many times
in this newsgroup, and I would not want it as my only scanner ( I have a
bunch of them!). But you can't beat its small size, and the advantage of
continous coverage (guess why I like that :) . As for antennas, a good
supplement to the one that it comes with is the Radio Shack center loaded
whip, catalog# 20-006.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:06 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!pilot.njin.net!not-for-mail
From: [e-mail] (Joseph Arcieri)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Increased Scanner Range Help
Date: 16 Oct 1995 09:54:01 -0400
Organization: Rutgers University
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Can anyone give me any suggestions on improving the range of my handheld
scanner?  I have a BC200XLT, I'm using a 46" whip antenna.  I wanted to
try and reach about 25 miles away to hear marine traffic on the river.
I live in the second floor of a condo and can't install anything on the
room or in the attic.   I tried the GRT super amplifier from Grove but
got worse performance than with the whip antenna.  I thought I saw some
mention of using magnetic mount mobile antenna and was wondering if this
would give me more range than the whip.   Thanks for any help.   Joe



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:07 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.accessone.com!ghansen.accessone.com!ghansen
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Increased Scanner Range Help
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 22:44:00 GMT
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In article <45to5p$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Joseph Arcieri) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Joseph Arcieri)
>Subject: Increased Scanner Range Help
>Date: 16 Oct 1995 09:54:01 -0400

>Can anyone give me any suggestions on improving the range of my handheld
>scanner?  I have a BC200XLT, I'm using a 46" whip antenna.  I wanted to
>try and reach about 25 miles away to hear marine traffic on the river.
>I live in the second floor of a condo and can't install anything on the
>room or in the attic.   I tried the GRT super amplifier from Grove but
>got worse performance than with the whip antenna.  I thought I saw some
>mention of using magnetic mount mobile antenna and was wondering if this
>would give me more range than the whip.   Thanks for any help.   Joe

Joe, you might want to try making a simple 1/2 wave dipole cut to the
frequency you desire to listen to.

grh


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:08 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!sun4nl!xs4all!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Aerocom)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Intercepts newsletter
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 11:26:49 GMT
Organization: Military Aircraft Communications
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[e-mail] (Aerocom) wrote:

>Does anyone know the email address for this newsletter,
>dedicated to monitoring military aircraft communications ?

Sorry for the confusing, I am NOT looking for the British
'Intercept' newsletter ( I have theirs and yes it is very
good indeed ), but was looking for the US 'Intercepts'
newsletter.

Intercepts ( watch the 's' on the end ) is a monthly news-
letter, published by Steve Douglass from Amarillo, TX.


Thank you, best regards.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                  monitoring military communications
                             on UHF 225-400 MHz.
                              [e-mail]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:09 1995
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From: john <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: Re: ISO Delaware Scanner Hobbyists
Date: 17 Oct 1995 03:29:47 GMT
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Anyone else in Delaware?  I am also looking for others in the Delaware
area.  I mainly listen to the DE state fire department, but I would also
like to hear Philly. I need a better antenna.

I would also be interested to know of BNN subscribers/members in the
Delaware area.

john




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:10 1995
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From: "Morgan G. Palmer" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: KEYE-TV Austin Frequency
Date: 15 Oct 1995 03:05:26 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
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Hi,

I am an Austin scanner listener and cannot find the news
car-to-car and base frequencies for KEYE-TV, the CBS affiliate in Austin.
It's channel number is 42, and is owned by Granite Broadcasting
Corporation.  Formerly, it was KBVO-TV.

If anyone can help, I would be most appreciative.

Morgan Palmer, KC5GPG
Freshman, University of Texas
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:11 1995
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From: "Morgan G. Palmer" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: KEYE-TV Austin Frequency
Date: 15 Oct 1995 03:05:59 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
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To: rec.radio.scanner

Hi,

I am an Austin scanner listener and cannot find the news
car-to-car and base frequencies for KEYE-TV, the CBS affiliate in Austin.
It's channel number is 42, and is owned by Granite Broadcasting
Corporation.  Formerly, it was KBVO-TV.

If anyone can help, I would be most appreciative.

Morgan Palmer, KC5GPG
Freshman, University of Texas
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:12 1995
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From: "Morgan G. Palmer" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: KEYE-TV Austin Frequency
Date: 15 Oct 1995 03:06:14 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
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Hi,

I am an Austin scanner listener and cannot find the news
car-to-car and base frequencies for KEYE-TV, the CBS affiliate in Austin.
It's channel number is 42, and is owned by Granite Broadcasting
Corporation.  Formerly, it was KBVO-TV.

If anyone can help, I would be most appreciative.

Morgan Palmer, KC5GPG
Freshman, University of Texas
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mark Motley)
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Subject: LA Blue/Green Line (MTA) freqs?
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 22:43:10 GMT
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Does anybody know the correct frequencies for the Los Angeles Blue
Line?

I have 160.635 for dispatch, but it is quiet.  I should be within
range (a station is only 2 miles from my house, plus I live on quite a
hill).

Any help would be appreciated.... also, any Web pages for LA freqs?





From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
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Subject: Looking for Pro2006.
Date: 16 Oct 1995 12:04:39 -0400
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I just sold my 2006, now my friend wants one.
If anyone has a 2006 forsale let me know.
He doesn't have an account, so go through me.

Looking in the $250-300 range, great condition.

I'm looking FOR a 2006, NOT selling one. (I already did that)

Thanks,
Richard Reider



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (dkwood)
Subject: Metrowide's expansion
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Keith
could you explain Metrowides future expansion plans.???
David K. Wood



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:15 1995
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Keith
could you give me information on Metrowides Future expansion??



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Alan Frisbie)
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Subject: Mobile mount for PRO-2006
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Date: 16 Oct 95 16:42:29 PDT
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Is there such a thing as a mobile mounting bracket for the
Radio Shack PRO-2006?   I cannot find one in the catalog and
the local RS salesperson says he never heard of one.
I would like to use it in my car without making my wife
hold it in her lap.   :-)

Perhaps there is a third-party or generic mount?

--  Alan E. Frisbie               [e-mail]
--  Flying Disk Systems, Inc.
--  4759 Round Top Drive          [phone] (voice)
--  Los Angeles, CA 90065         [phone] (FAX)


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Cogswell)
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Subject: Modifying PRO-39, how hard is it?
Date: 17 Oct 1995 00:23:08 GMT
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I'm an amateur when it comes to modifying a scanner... as a matter of
fact, I've NEVER modified one.

How hard it is for someone who gets text files explaining mods to scanner
to actually do it? What kind of tools do you need? Should I get schematics
or something?

If possible, please EMAIL the reply.




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Subject: My converter is smoking!
Date: 15 Oct 1995 09:49:35 GMT
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  Oh jeez.  I bought myself one of those Ramsey Scanner Converters
(converts 800-950 Mhz down to 400-450 Mhz).  I'm very sure I soldered
everything correctly, had the correct polarity on the power supply etc.., I
mean everything done correctly!  I hooked it up and... nothing.  All I
got on 400-450 were, 400-450 (but with some neat sounding static! joy!)
So I took it out of the case, checked everything.. then powered it up again
outside of the case, and whalla! SMOKE!!!  One of the transistors were
smoking!!  Oh well, bummer.  I'm not going to bother sending it back.
I'll just deal with it.  I'm not busting on Ramsey either, I've gotten
kits from them before that have worked exellent.  I'm wondering if
anyone reading this has had a similar problem and/or got it working.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
Date: 16 Oct 1995 05:04:18 GMT
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 A girl was standing in the parking lot talking to
>her boyfriend. I dedided to see how quickly I could find her frequency.

>It didn't take me long, I walked up to her with the scanner, she didn't

>believe it at first.

No, no...DON'T tell them that you can listen!  That way, they will
continue to be totally ignorant of way their cordless phone works and you
can continue to monitor their conversations!  <g>

-Drew in Charlotte-
 KF4DDM



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Subject: need secret service freq's
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President Clinton will be in my town today. I would greatly
appreciate it if anyone could provide some frequencies or even
ranges that I could scan.  Thanks in advance for any info.
Richard Broomfield
<[e-mail]>


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In <45r3rk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>President Clinton will be in my town today. I would greatly
>appreciate it if anyone could provide some frequencies or even
>ranges that I could scan.  Thanks in advance for any info.
>Richard Broomfield
><[e-mail]>
++++++++++++++

Try:

165.375
165.7875
407.85
415.70
165.2125
164.40
166.5125
Scan 165-168

Good Luck!



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Sam Dunham)
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Subject: Re: New AOR8000; some questions.
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:59:41
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In article <45k3f7$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Alfred A. Berti) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Alfred A. Berti)
>Subject: Re: New AOR8000; some questions.
>Date: 12 Oct 1995 18:05:27 -0400

>As far as the charger goes, I interpet the manual the same as you do-  my
>guess is that the charge circuitry  can't handle the running load, but is
>sufficent to trickle charge the AA cells overnight.
>
>Scanstar Gold is the only program I know of to modify the AOR 8000 code.

Scan*Star Commercial was the first program to do this. Now Scan*Star for
Windows does it too. Call the Scan*Star BBS at 1-408-258-6462 or the Scan*Star
www site: www.scanstar.com.

>
>Call EEB's BBS for more info.  [phone]
>
>Albe
>
>



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:22 1995
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From: Peter S KHOR <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Other countries where scanners are legal . . .
Date: 14 Oct 1995 07:21:55 GMT
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[e-mail] (Drew Durigan) wrote:
>
> >It's illegal here in Singapore. So leave your scanner home  :-(  if you


illegal, yes, but there's MORE scanners there than you'd think - and
we're not talking el-chepos, AOR seem to be rather popular, if not
the defacto law-breaking unit.  just got back from Singapore for
a long summer ....


Peter KHOR


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
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Subject: Re: Other countries where scanners are legal . . .
Date: 16 Oct 1995 02:40:50 GMT
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: >>But why is it that we only ever see posts from people from the United
: >>States, and occasionally Canada, G.B. and the Netherlands on this
: >>newsgroup?  Are scanners illegal in most other countries?
: >
: >Here in the Netherlands we are allowed to listen to everything ;
: >cellulars, police, military and aircraft comms. The only thing
: >is, is that you are not supposed to discuss anything you pickup
: >with ' third ' parties. So scanners are definitely LEGAL here !
: >
: >Things are different however in the surrounding countries. In
: >Belgium it is ILLEGAL to own or operate a scanner. In Germany
: >laws were changed two years ago. You can now own a scanner there,
: >but it is illegal to listen to certain frequencies, for example
: >police and the military. I don't know about cellphones, but as
: >most countries here switch to GSM it will be difficult anyway :(
: >

I know, I flew from the US into Frankfurt, had no problem there, I had my
hand held with me and was monitoring the airport traffic. also brought
along my SONY-2010 shortwave. All they really cared about at that airport
was that I didn't have any explosives in the redios. They sniffed them
then put the sample in an analyzer.

Stuttgart was a different story. i had a devil of a time because I had
the SONY-2010 in my b rief case and also had my hand held scanner either
in my pants pocket or belt. The airport or airline folks wanted me to put
the scanner in my checked baggage. I refused because I didn't have any
more room!!  Finally negotiated with Airport Security, Airport Police,
and airline represenative. They took my scanner and gave it to the flight
crew, i had to claim it when I got back in the US!!

I always travel with a handheld scanner. I usually also carry a frequency
list with me in my briefcase!!

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Hancock)
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Subject: Pager Decoder
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 16:23:00 GMT
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Wondering if anyone has experienced the same problem I have with the
decoder circuit for the POSAG software.  I'm getting +20 VDC from the
COM port -I've checked the diodes and they're installed correctly.
While I can't seem to decode any signals on screen I am getting output
from the circuit -confirmed by hooking up a speaker to the op amp
output.  I'm wondering if there's anyway to find out if the signals
I'm trying to decode are POSAG and not some other format such as
superPOSAG.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Paul Hancock



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (shatter)
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Subject: Re: Pager Decoder
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Paul Hancock ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Wondering if anyone has experienced the same problem I have with the
: decoder circuit for the POSAG software.  I'm getting +20 VDC from the
: COM port -I've checked the diodes and they're installed correctly.
: While I can't seem to decode any signals on screen I am getting output
: from the circuit -confirmed by hooking up a speaker to the op amp
: output.  I'm wondering if there's anyway to find out if the signals
: I'm trying to decode are POSAG and not some other format such as
: superPOSAG.

: Any suggestions would be appreciated.

The POCSAG program is very volume sensitive... put the scanner to a pager
fequency and then put the volume down to zero and slowly adjust the
volume up until the little spinner starts spinning in the upper right
hand corner-ish portion of the screen and wait to see if something
happens... if not then adjust the volume up a little more....

Hope this helps...

Chad



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:27 1995
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Subject: Re: Pager Decoder
Date: 16 Oct 1995 19:07:24 GMT
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[e-mail] (shatter) wrote:
>
> The POCSAG program is very volume sensitive... put the scanner to a pager
> fequency and then put the volume down to zero and slowly adjust the
> volume up until the little spinner starts spinning in the upper right
> hand corner-ish portion of the screen and wait to see if something
> happens... if not then adjust the volume up a little more....
> Chad

:
:
:
:Can anyone tell me where I can locate this software?
:I would like to take at it.
:
:       Thanks in advance
:               - John
:


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:27 1995
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Subject: Personal Scanner/Scanning Page - Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH
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Hi all,

  Been tinkering with HTML and created a scanning homepage.  Please
drop by and have a look and give me your comments, suggestions, and
critiques.  Also taking suggestions for things to add.

  You'll find the page at:

     http://www.afn.org/~afn09444/scanner/

  Thanks, and see you there!

Todd L. Sherman/KB4MHH
[e-mail]
Main homepage:  http://www.afn.org/~afn09444/

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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO 2035 + PRO 2042 DO GET CELL!
Date: 15 Oct 1995 08:26:43 GMT
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MinesG ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The reason I ask is that I have the PRO-2035 and although the catalog
: indicates that it
: uses triple conversion, the user manual appears (based on my very limited
: knowledge) to suggest otherwise.  Nowhere in the manual are the words
: _triple_ or _conversion_ to be found.  In fact the specification page
: shows the following IF frequencies:  the 1st IF is 609.005 - 613.5 MHz and
: the 2nd IF is 48.5 MHz.

It is triple conversion. The third IF frequency is not listed.

: compute 1105 to 1115 MHz as being the area where one would get cellular
: images?  My first scanner had an IF of 10.7 and determining if a received
: frequency was an image was pretty straight forward.  Double the IF to get
: 21.4 and add or subtract that value from the received frequency.  Does
: this formula not work for triple conversion scanners?  Does the 2035 use
: triple conversion or not?

Sure. But double 600 MHz and subtract the cellular frequency, and you get
a negative value. Double it and add the cellular frequency, and you get a
frequency of around 2 GHz - which is well outside the coverage range of
the scanner.

More importantly is that the resulting 1.2 GHz shift in the frequency puts
the signals outside the passband of the 2nd IF.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill )
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Subject: PRO 37
Date: 15 Oct 1995 15:48:33 GMT
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I own a Pro 37 scanner.  Is there a FAQ on this scanner?  I would
appreciate any hints on the use of this scanner.  I live near the ocean
and would like to be able to receive Coast Guard and other marine
"talk".  Thanks                  [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill )
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Subject: Re: PRO 37
Date: 15 Oct 1995 23:32:31 GMT
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In <45ragh$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill )
writes:
>
>I own a Pro 37 scanner.  Is there a FAQ on this scanner?  I would
>appreciate any hints on the use of this scanner.  I live near the
ocean
>and would like to be able to receive Coast Guard and other marine
>"talk".  Thanks                  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill )
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Subject: Re: PRO 37
Date: 16 Oct 1995 18:55:09 GMT
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In <45ragh$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill )
writes:
>
>I own a Pro 37 scanner.  Is there a FAQ on this scanner?  I would
>appreciate any hints on the use of this scanner.  I live near the
ocean
>and would like to be able to receive Coast Guard and other marine
>"talk".  Thanks                  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill )
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Subject: Re: PRO 37
Date: 17 Oct 1995 04:21:53 GMT
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In <45u9qd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill )
writes:
>
>In <45ragh$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill )
>writes:
>>
>>I own a Pro 37 scanner.  Is there a FAQ on this scanner?  I would
>>appreciate any hints on the use of this scanner.  I live near the
>ocean
>>and would like to be able to receive Coast Guard and other marine
>>"talk".  Thanks                  [e-mail]
>



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert Cooter)
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Subject: Pro 60 Cell Image Randge?
Date: 16 Oct 1995 03:22:59 GMT
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Does anyone know where the image frequencies for cellular are?
And where can i find the speed increase mod for the Pro 26?

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On 16 Oct 1995, Robert Cooter wrote:

> Does anyone know where the image frequencies for cellular are?
> And where can i find the speed increase mod for the Pro 26?
>
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Don't know about the Pro 60 but there are no mods for the pro 26>


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:35 1995
From: [e-mail] (Lawrence Meyer)
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Subject: Pro-2006 And computer int
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U >From: <unknown>.(marc.fruth)@shiptoshore.com (<unknown> (marc
U >Fruth)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
U >Subject: Pro-2006 and Computer Interface?
U >Organization: Ship To Shore OIS, Arlington VA
U >Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
U >Date: Tue,  3 Oct 1995 02:26:11 GMT

U >Path:
U >holonet!colossus.holonet.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.
U >  sprintlink.net!news.localnet.com!usenet From: <Unknown> (Marc
U >Fruth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
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U >Hello!

U >Has anyone ever heard of a "homebrew" scanner/computer interface?
U >I know of all the commercial (translate purchased) systems on the
U >market, but I would really like to build it myself.  I think I
U >have a good grasp on the design, but if someone else has done it
U >already, it would save me alot of time in R&D.

U >Thanks!     ......and here's my E-Mail address in case you want
U >to respond that way:

U >[e-mail]
 Here it be for you or anyone interested:

 HB232 computer interface for RS PRO 2004/5/6 pro 43 and anythin else
you can adapt it to. It has been avalable prewired or as a kit from:

Commtronics Engeneering
Po Box 262478
San Diego, Ca
92196


Or Call;
Hertzian Intercept BBS
[phone]
after 5 PM PDT


Electronic address:
Compuserve74107,1176
FidoNet 1:202/731
Email [e-mail]
BBS/FAX [phone]

 It is now a  "Roll Yer' Own" construction project from the same
source. I belive the Book which Gives the details is
"Ultimate Scanner" or some such. Avalable from the above source or
probably many Ham radio Bookstores.



Good Signals...    LCM


 * POW 1.0  On Trial * Clinton/Gore--DC's version of Beavis and Butt-head




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: Pro-2006 And computer int
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Lawrence Meyer ([e-mail]) wrote:

: U >Has anyone ever heard of a "homebrew" scanner/computer interface?
: U >I know of all the commercial (translate purchased) systems on the
: U >market, but I would really like to build it myself.  I think I
: U >have a good grasp on the design, but if someone else has done it
: U >already, it would save me alot of time in R&D.

: U >Thanks!     ......and here's my E-Mail address in case you want
: U >to respond that way:

: U >[e-mail]
:  Here it be for you or anyone interested:

:  HB232 computer interface for RS PRO 2004/5/6 pro 43 and anythin else
: you can adapt it to. It has been avalable prewired or as a kit from:

:  It is now a  "Roll Yer' Own" construction project from the same
: source. I belive the Book which Gives the details is
: "Ultimate Scanner" or some such. Avalable from the above source or
: probably many Ham radio Bookstores.

However, I would suggest the orginal poster consider the Optoelectronics
unit before making a decision.  In my opinion (and others) it's a better
bet if you want to dedicate your computer and scanner and add DTMF/PL
decode as well.  It allows you to scan an unlimited number of channels
whereas Cheek's kit (which will  take you hours to build) does not
improve the performance of the scanner in the slightest.  Given the small
differential in price many have found the opto unit to be more suitable
to their needs.

Cheers!

Andy

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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:37 1995
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Subject: PRO-26 (twenty-six) mods wanted!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
From: [e-mail] (Bob Shew <[e-mail]>)
Date: 16 Oct 95 20:47:45 EST
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I am still looking for mods for my Radio Shack PRO-26.  Note that
is "twenty-six." I am especially looking for any cellular restoration
mods.

Thanks,

Bob

[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John)
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Subject: pro2021 manual needed
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 15:35:54 GMT
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Does anyone have a manual for a PRO2021 that
they would copy for me? I would gladly pay you
for copying/postage, etc.
Thanks
/john



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James Dean)
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Subject: Re: Pro43 shortwave mod??
Date: 14 Oct 1995 09:46:17 GMT
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This is a new one on me, but I might have to try it just to see.
-
  JAMES DEAN KD4USF  [e-mail]
  Yes that's really my name.




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
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Subject: Re: Pro43 shortwave mod??
Date: 14 Oct 1995 10:57:51 GMT
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> ... a mod for the Pro43 that enables it to receive 6mhz to 1000mhz.
> It hooks D1 to D5 and up to the keyboard lock switch ...

    There is no RF circuitry in the PRO-43 for frequencies below 30 MHz or
between 512-806 MHz.  Diode D1 _is_ the keyboard lock diode - it's already
connected to the switch.  Diode D5 does not exist in the US/Canada model;
if installed it would set the cellular step to 12.5 kHz.
                                                               /* barry /&


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:41 1995
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From: Paul Richards <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Q for SCOUT owners
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In article <45m5gn$[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Gary M. Glickman" writes:

> The Opto SCOUT (and the newer "Cub") look like nifty devices. Any owners
> willing to share their experiences?
>
> How (and how well) do these things work day-to-day? How close to various
> transmitters do you have to be to capture a frequency? How well do they
> work in an urban environment? Mobile?
>

I tried an experiment with my Scout 40. I have a 70cms transmitter which
runs 25W into a WX2 (vertical colinear) at a height of around 55 feet.

I left a friend running the transmitter (431.000 MHz) and went for a walk
along the road with the scout - I used a Watson W801 aerial (wideband about
8 inches long).

I found the best results around 30-50 yards away where the scout was
continually capturing continually - there were slightly fewer captures close
to the house - only to be expected really since the aerial is supposed to
radiate horizontally - not into the ground.

At the top of the road - around 100 yards, I was getting a capture every 20
seconds or so.

I think the results would have been better had my aerial not been so high...

This experiment was in the centre of Bristol, which is a large city with
a high background of RF...  for example, if I connect the scout to a discone
at 35 feet it continually registers around 91 MHz - probably a mixture of FM
radio stations - and when I go driving around I get a fair number of pager
hits - however, I have known it to pick up a taxi base station from about 400
yards with intervening buildings - although I think that was exceptional in
this area.

Paul

(PS. for those reading in the UK, I imported my scout from the USA, and saved
money on the best price available in the UK - email me for details).

--
Paul Richards


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary M. Glickman)
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Date: 15 Oct 1995 09:57:01 -0400
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[e-mail] wrote:
: Who makes the "Cub" that you refer to?

Optoelectronics. See the Grove catalog.

--

Gary M. Glickman
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Subject: Re: Q: Ground Wave Network Towers?
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Tim Tyler ([e-mail]) wrote:
: >
: >>    GWEN is not used for direct comms with submarines.
: >
: >Guess it depends on what you mean by "direct".  My understanding is
: >that GWEN is a ELF network used to transmit data at very slow rates
: >(one character every few seconds).  These characters have prearranged
: >meanings, such as "surface and get more detailed info" or "do line X
: >in book Y".   It's one-way only - the subs must communicate back to
: >shore via some other method.
: >

:    You're confusing GWEN with other networks.

You might tell that to the commander of the station here in Oregon. He
says his site is used exactly as listed above. Now, it may have other
purposes, but I cannot think of any.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Roger Pettengill)
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Subject: Re: Q: Ground Wave Network Towers?
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

>Tim Tyler ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: >
>: >>    GWEN is not used for direct comms with submarines.
>: >
>: >Guess it depends on what you mean by "direct".  My understanding is
>: >that GWEN is a ELF network used to transmit data at very slow rates
>: >(one character every few seconds).  These characters have prearranged
>: >meanings, such as "surface and get more detailed info" or "do line X
>: >in book Y".   It's one-way only - the subs must communicate back to
>: >shore via some other method.
>: >

>:    You're confusing GWEN with other networks.

>You might tell that to the commander of the station here in Oregon. He
>says his site is used exactly as listed above. Now, it may have other
>purposes, but I cannot think of any.

Is commander spelled with a "c" or a "C"? The difference being the
later would be US Navy (or Coast Guard).

>Bill

In all my years of reading/hearing about GWEN I have never seen any
references to it being used by the Navy nor for signaling our
submarines. It's _always_ described as an encrypted packet-like
nationwide network of nuclear-hardened stations built by and for the
U.S. Air Force.

Roger




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[e-mail] (Jim West) wrote:

>Can anyone explain for the group what ELF/GWEN/etc. really is? What is
>it used for? How can one monitor it?

        ELF = Eritrean Liberation Front or Extremely Low Frequeny
        GWEN = Ground Wave Emergency Network

GWEN transmits in the area of 150-170 kHz. It is a natiowide network
of nuclear-hardened stations operated by the USAF.

Roger




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:47 1995
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From: "Thomas F. Reynolds (KA1UEV)" <[e-mail]>
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Here in Washington County, ME (as far up the east coast you can go before
you hit Canada), we host one of the most powerfule ELF (Extremely Low Freq)
transmitter stations in the world. The Naval Station, located about 11 miles
from my home and was built in the early '60's hosts two antenna arrays
consisting of 11 towers each, the tallest towers are 980+ ft tall and the
exterior towers are 800 ft+ tall and support tophat type arrays with
spreader insulators 80 feet long . The transmitter consists of a Continental
Electronics tranmitter that operates in the range of 16-28 KiloHertz (that's
right, audio frequency range) with an effective output driving both
arrays at 2 Million Watts. The broadcast ID;s were originally in CW
callsign NAA and the easiest way to pick it up was to hook a long lead
on the hot side of the audio input of an amplifier. Tape decks, receivers,
PA systems were plagued by the output for quite some time.
        The purpose of the station is indeed to transmit coded information
to the North Atlantic Submarine fleet. The extremely long wavelength of
an ELF signal gives it the ability to travel undersea or long distances
not line of sight like VHF or UHF.  The submarine fleet can receive the
signals, but must surface to reply.
        One of the advantages of LF or ELF RF  equipment (tube
type especially) is it is less likely to be destroyed by the Electro
Magnetic Pulse (EMP) associated with an air-burst nuclear weapon. It has
been shown that an nuclear air burst can disrupt communications in the
upper HF and higher (VHF, UHF, etc) for hours to days. For this reason,
not only is ELF THE most reliable way of reaching deeply
submerged submarines, but the GWEN sites (we have them in Maine as well)
which also use frequencies well below VHF or HF are important to maintain
a military command/control network in the event of a nuclear incident.
        One would expect that an array of 26 towers on the North Atlantic
Coast would probably be one of the top ten "Ground Zero" choices for any
nuclear equipped country/affiliate who was intent on warfare with the US.
Thus, GWEN was set up to maintain the command/control internetworking
across the country when the primary modes of communications were wiped out.
        The Cutler, ME Navy site is a fascinating, if somewhat boring for
the scanner listener, site. The RF tank sections of the transmitter
should be worked on by plumbers, rather that technicians because they have
to be so huge for the frequencies involved. ....Tom


Thomas F. Reynolds (KA1UEV)              [e-mail]
Academic Computing                       (130.111.175.30)
Univ of MAINE @ MACHIAS                  [phone] x 237 (w)
9 O'Brien Ave                            [phone] (fax)
Machias, ME  04654-1321                  [phone] (h)



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:48 1995
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Corrections to my post..The site is referred to as a VLF or Very Low
Frequency site, not an ELF site..The operation also maintains communications
in the HF spectrum 10-50 KW xmitters for surface vessel communications.
The site is a transmitter only site.  Return comms are either satellite
based or HF based. Located 30 air miles from here is one of the receive
sites at Winter Harbor which has quite an array of dishes as well as one
of the old DF loops that is still in active use..

Thomas F. Reynolds (KA1UEV)              [e-mail]
Academic Computing                       (130.111.175.30)
Univ of MAINE @ MACHIAS                  [phone] x 237 (w)
9 O'Brien Ave                            [phone] (fax)
Machias, ME  04654-1321                  [phone] (h)



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:51 1995
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

>Tim Tyler ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: >
>: >>    GWEN is not used for direct comms with submarines.
>: >
>: >Guess it depends on what you mean by "direct".  My understanding is
>: >that GWEN is a ELF network used to transmit data at very slow rates
>: >(one character every few seconds).  These characters have prearranged
>: >meanings, such as "surface and get more detailed info" or "do line X
>: >in book Y".   It's one-way only - the subs must communicate back to
>: >shore via some other method.
>: >

>:    You're confusing GWEN with other networks.

>You might tell that to the commander of the station here in Oregon. He
>says his site is used exactly as listed above. Now, it may have other
>purposes, but I cannot think of any.

>Bill

Tim Tyler is absolutely right. You're all confusing one sytem with
another. What most of you are describing resembles the Navy's ELF and
VLF (Extremely Low Frequency and Very Low Frequency) systems but
you're using the name of a VLF system operated by the USAF (GWEN).

Several years ago the USAF wanted to build two GWEN stations in my
home state (Maine). As has been the case with most/all proposed GWEN
stations in the US the environmentalists got a case of hot pants over
these stations and fought the Air Force (the AF won the Maine case).
The reason I mention this is that much of what follows is what I
learned about GWEN at that time.

First of all, ELF is in the range of 30-300 Hz. GWEN operates between
150 and 175 kHz which makes it VLF, not ELF. The slow-rate data
transmissions to submerged submarines most of you are thinking of is
either Project ELF (on 76 Hz) or the Navy's VLF stations. For info on
NAA, the Navy's VLF submarine transmitting station at Cutler, Maine
look elsewhere in this thread for Tom Reynolds' great description of
that facility. I've seen NAA from the ground and the air. It's
awesome.

Second, GWEN was designed to be a contingency comms system  in the
event of nuclear war, NOT a means of signaling submerged submarines.
It is one of a number of redundant communications systems built
for/operated by the U.S. Air Force to insure continunity under all
circumstances. It is a web of small sites scattered across the US.

The theory behind GWEN is that since VLF signals follow the contour of
the earth rather than depending upon the ionosphere for propagation
they could survive the effects of a high-altitude EMP (electromagnetic
pulse) from a nuclear blast whereas HF propagation would be totally
undependable/useless. Remember, we are not talking about a direct hit
on a station but rather the effect of nuclear blasts on the ionosphere
itself and hence it's ability to propagate HF.

I'm not in Maine anymore so I haven't followed the development of GWEN
as closely as I used to. Perhaps it's mission has changed. Perhaps the
profile of a GWEN station has changed. I don't know. Tim Tyler has a
_working_ knowledge of such systems and maybe he'll shed some current
light on GWEN.

Finally, there are three major differences between a GWEN station and
the Navy's sub comms station .... acreage, antenna system and output
power. A Navy ELF/VLF submarine comms station occupies property
measured in square miles. Their monster ELF transmitter site in
Republic, MI reportedly has an antenna 56 miles long (and even that's
downsized from the original proposal: a 2,000 square mile underground
antenna grid!!). OTOH, a GWEN station needs only a few acres and
consists of one-two 300 foot vertical antennas. GWEN stations run
kilowatts of output. The Navy's ELF/VLF stations require megawatts to
communicate with submerged submarines. Once you've seen them there's
no comparison between a Navy ELF/VLF station and a GWEN site.

Roger Pettengill (email: [e-mail])







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In article <45nm4i$[e-mail]>, Bill Nelson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Tim Tyler ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: >
>: >>    GWEN is not used for direct comms with submarines.
>: >
>: >Guess it depends on what you mean by "direct".  My understanding is
>: >that GWEN is a ELF network used to transmit data at very slow rates
>: >(one character every few seconds).  These characters have prearranged
>: >meanings, such as "surface and get more detailed info" or "do line X
>: >in book Y".   It's one-way only - the subs must communicate back to
>: >shore via some other method.
>: >
>
>:    You're confusing GWEN with other networks.
>
>You might tell that to the commander of the station here in Oregon. He
>says his site is used exactly as listed above. Now, it may have other
>purposes, but I cannot think of any.


   Geez Bill...  If the commander says that, then the station is not part
of the GWEN system.  In fact, if the "station" has a "commander" or
anyone else right there, it isn't a GWEN site.  Educate yourself on the
difference between the Ground Wave Emergency Network system, managed by
the USAF, and LF/VLF/ELF SSBN comms systems like Verdin, operated by the
Navy!

> >Bill



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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:53 1995
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Roger Pettengill ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

: >You might tell that to the commander of the station here in Oregon. He
: >says his site is used exactly as listed above. Now, it may have other
: >purposes, but I cannot think of any.

: Is commander spelled with a "c" or a "C"? The difference being the
: later would be US Navy (or Coast Guard).

I used the proper case. The person was the commander of the station. I have
no idea what his rank may be, or even the branch of the service - although
the uniform was not USAF.

Bill


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Roger Pettengill ([e-mail]) wrote:

: In all my years of reading/hearing about GWEN I have never seen any
: references to it being used by the Navy nor for signaling our
: submarines. It's _always_ described as an encrypted packet-like
: nationwide network of nuclear-hardened stations built by and for the
: U.S. Air Force.

I don't know if it is a GWEN station, or not. I do know that it is ELF.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:56 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Smith)
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 Ic> Hello Everyone,
 Ic> I have aquired a Uniden UBC2500XLT scanner. Unfortunately the previous
 Ic> owner had lost the manual (which sort of explains why there was only
 Ic> about 30  Channels programmed in it). What I would like to know is-

 Ic> 1 - is there any way of selecting a 'Non-Standard' mode at a
 Ic> particular frequency.
 Ic> eg Wide FM at 400Mhz

  No, there isn't.

 Ic> 2 - is there a way of clearing a bank of frequencies in one hit.

  Not a bank of frequencies, per se.  You do have the info to clear the
whole radio, though.

 Ic> 3- Any other neat stuff.

 Ic> I already know about holding down the following groups of keys and
 Ic> turning it on

 Ic> 2,9,MANUAL         Clears everything
 Ic> 2,9,SCAN   Enters 'Test' Frequencies
 Ic> 2,9,LCK            Displays a Software Version
 Ic> 2,9,L/O            Displays all LCD Segments
 Ic>
 Ic>                                            IanC

 Ah...you must have the newer version of the 2500.  Hence, you won't be
able to modify the unit for continuous 800 Mhz coverage.  Some older models
due not have the features mentioned in your #3.

 You can clear out lockouts in all banks by pressing and holding the
lockout key until you hear three beeps.  If you only want to do it on
selcted banks, make sure the rest of the banks are turned off before doing
the above procedure.

 There is a priority channel available in the first 10 banks, which are
programmable.  For example, to set the priority to channel 5, press MANUAL,
5, MANUAL.  Then press and hold the PRIORITY key for 5 seconds.  Do this
for the other 10 banks, if you'd like.  This is a cascading priority.  For
example, if a priority channel in bank 10 is being received and the scanner
receives a signal on a priority channel in bank 5, then the priority
channel in bank 5 overrides the priority channel in bank 10.

 Other features are 'turbo' scan, which scans freqs at 100 channels per
second.  This is activated with the SPD key.  TURBO will be displayed on
the LCD.  WX key to scan for the National Weather freqs in your area.  A
counter to count how many times a signal is received on a channel, a VFO to
dial in a frequency, auto search and store, and a move feature, which will
move a frequency from one channel to another.

 The VFO and COUNT features can be accessed via the knob at the top.  F is
for VFO and C is for counter.  To get a count, you must be stopped or
locked on a channel and press the CNT key.

 The search feature is used to search a range.  While the scanner is in
MANUAL mode, press a lower limit frequency, then LIMIT, then an upper
range, then LIMIT, then SRC.  Try a limit between 30 and 50 MHZ to get an
idea of how it works.

 Anything else?

                        Jerry

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:57 1995
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From: Jonathan Clough <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Q: re UBC2500XLT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Jerry Smith" writes:

> -=> Quoting [e-mail].c to All <=-
>
>  Ic> Hello Everyone,
>  Ic> I have aquired a Uniden UBC2500XLT scanner. Unfortunately the previous
                               ^^^
Aha....the UBC varient, not the BC varient as found in the USA.
Bearcats outside the US are prefixed UBC, in the past this usually meant
66-88MHz on low VHF rather than 29-54 found on US versions.

The UBC2500 never made it to Europe as far as I am aware, I only saw the
BC2500 and the UBC3000 & UBC9000 are still awaited.  It would seem they
do "exist" as a post sometime ago (also from Australia) indicated somebody
had obtained the UBC9000XLT, again I would assume this was full coverage
rather than 800MHz "blocked".  New European regulations mean that radios
have to be CE approved in a similar fassion to FCC approval for sale in
the future - this seems to be the delay on the new Bearcats being
available here in Europe....anyway I digress....

>  Ah...you must have the newer version of the 2500.  Hence, you won't be
> able to modify the unit for continuous 800 Mhz coverage.  Some older models
> due not have the features mentioned in your #3.

I should think as its the UBC2500XLT it may well have full coverage out
of the box. Perhaps you could just confirm this Ian if possible.


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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ruud Waij)
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Jonathan Clough ([e-mail]) wrote:

: The UBC2500 never made it to Europe as far as I am aware, I only saw the
: BC2500 and the UBC3000 & UBC9000 are still awaited.

: the future - this seems to be the delay on the new Bearcats being
: available here in Europe....anyway I digress....

3000 & 9000 are available in the Netherlands

ruud


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:28:59 1995
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From: Jonathan Clough <[e-mail]>
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 15:44:04 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Ruud Waij" writes:

> 3000 & 9000 are available in the Netherlands


Mmmmm....are these UBC varients or BC's ??

--
Cheers,
JC


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With my Bearcat 100 I believe I just hit limit, then enter the low frequency
number - then limit, and the higher freq. number.  Then hit scan and she flies.
Pretty sure that's the drill.  Good luck.  Al in Long Island.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:01 1995
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Does anyone out there wish to fill me in on what
these packages do.

I've used the ScanStar demo and currently waiting on
my copy of ScanStar Pro.

So what is ScanCat all about ?

Any options would be appreciated.....

Thanks , Rich.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Sam Dunham)
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In article <460bok$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Susan) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Susan)
>Subject: Question: ScanStar vs. ScanCat Gold
>Date: 17 Oct 1995 09:40:36 -0400


>Does anyone out there wish to fill me in on what
>these packages do.

>I've used the ScanStar demo and currently waiting on
>my copy of ScanStar Pro.

>So what is ScanCat all about ?

>Any options would be appreciated.....

>Thanks , Rich.

Have you taken a look at Scan*Star for Windows? Demo copies are available from
www.scanstar.com.

-Sam-



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James Dean)
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Subject: Re: RADAR UNITS??!!
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (-) says:
>
>This past weekend I went to a hamfest, there I saw some guy selling
>used MPH doppler radar units (model K55) - out of police cars.
>I couldn't help but wonder if it was legal to own and/or operate one
>of these things.
>
>Does anyone have any idea?
>
>ps. they were $150 - not bad for a toy.
>
>
Just before logging on, I got a new sale catalog from a company called
RADAR SALES, in Minneapolis  (612-533-1100).  I've bought from them
before, and they have all kinds of refurbished and new x and k band radar
stuff, I've bought some of their equipment previously, and it is more fun
than you can imagine.  As I understand it*, due to the low power output
on these, no licensing is required.

The featured item in the new catalog is a Stalker sports gun (they sell
both police and sports equipment).  For about a grand, you get a new
Stalker, case, battery, charger, and tuning fork.

They also have refurb stuff.  X band handhelds w/ warranty start at about
300 bucks.

-
  JAMES DEAN KD4USF  [e-mail]
  Yes that's really my name.
  *please note:  "as I understand it"  means exactly that.  I am not a
lawyer,       and cannot guarantee the accuracy of this statement.
Should you disagree,   please feel free to post any opinion to the
contrary.  Emailing me is not,          however, necessary, as I prefer
to remain blissfully ignorant of the facts.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:04 1995
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James Dean ([e-mail]) wrote:

: than you can imagine.  As I understand it*, due to the low power output
: on these, no licensing is required.

FWIW, the operation of a RADAR unit ***DOES*** require an FCC license...
I have a Kustom Signal Golden Eagle radar unit mounted in my own car for
use in writing my Master's Thesis and I have an FCC license which allows me
to operate the Unit ***ANYWHERE*** in the US...you would not BELIEVE how
many times I have gotten stopped by law enforcement because I have better
equipment in my car than they have ...they always seem to think I have
stolen it, which is why the license and bill of sale ***ALWAYS*** stays
in the car.


--
Dave Briggman

******************************************************************************
Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of
Congress. But I repeat myself.

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In article <45rihg$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (David Briggman) wrote:
}James Dean ([e-mail]) wrote:
}
I've been operating one for about 3 years now and still haven't seen one.
I do it for a profession.  Not a term paper.

}FWIW, the operation of a RADAR unit ***DOES*** require an FCC license...
Some will take a salesman word as gospel and this is what you get.

}I have a Kustom Signal Golden Eagle radar unit mounted in my own car for
}use in writing my Master's Thesis and I have an FCC license which allows me
}to operate the Unit ***ANYWHERE*** in the US..
Oh, Joy.. Congratulations. You must be rich to afford such nice toys.

}.you would not BELIEVE how
}many times I have gotten stopped by law enforcement because I have better
}equipment in my car than they have .
Your right, the cops are out to get you because they have nothing better to do
and they're jealous of your new toys.

}..they always seem to think I have
}stolen it, which is why the license and bill of sale ***ALWAYS*** stays
}in the car.
Now your a college level radar authority and a mind reader.  Boy, you are
smart.  I wish I had your brains and toys too.

Get a life.  Grow up, act your age and not your shoe size.


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On 15 Oct 1995, David Briggman wrote:

> James Dean ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : than you can imagine.  As I understand it*, due to the low power output
> : on these, no licensing is required.
>
> FWIW, the operation of a RADAR unit ***DOES*** require an FCC license...
> I have a Kustom Signal Golden Eagle radar unit mounted in my own car for
> use in writing my Master's Thesis and I have an FCC license which allows me
> to operate the Unit ***ANYWHERE*** in the US...you would not BELIEVE how
> many times I have gotten stopped by law enforcement because I have better
> equipment in my car than they have ...they always seem to think I have
> stolen it, which is why the license and bill of sale ***ALWAYS*** stays
> in the car.

I think the cops are just harrassing you. How many radar guns get
stolen?? You'd have to have some big gonads to go steal a radar unit out
of a cop car.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:07 1995
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From: Charles St. Onge <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: RADAR UNITS??!!
Date: 17 Oct 1995 06:38:11 GMT
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In article <45rihg$[e-mail]> David Briggman,
[e-mail] writes:
>FWIW, the operation of a RADAR unit ***DOES*** require an FCC license...
>I have a Kustom Signal Golden Eagle radar unit mounted in my own car for
>use in writing my Master's Thesis and I have an FCC license which allows me
>to operate the Unit ***ANYWHERE*** in the US...you would not BELIEVE how
>many times I have gotten stopped by law enforcement because I have better
>equipment in my car than they have ...they always seem to think I have
>stolen it, which is why the license and bill of sale ***ALWAYS*** stays
>in the car.
>
>
>--
>Dave Briggman
>

good god dave, I had no idea you were such a nerd!
What's your thesis about?

---------------------------------
Charles St. Onge

mailto:[e-mail]
http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/c/castong/web/my.html


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (NAVIGAT0R4)
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Subject: Re: Radio Image Question
Date: 16 Oct 1995 06:07:42 -0400
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What's a radio image anyway?



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:09 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dean Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: REQ: Cheap HF Aerial
Date: 16 Oct 1995 18:06:05 +1000
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I'd like to make a HF aerial to improve the reception
of my AOR-1000 at the lowest possible cost.  I guess
a line of wire out the window would work, but I'd like
some help.  What length of wire should I use (half-wave?)
and what is the best way to mount it onto my scanner, which
has a BNC connector.  Please post to the list; cheap pro
jects
like this might be of interest to others.

Thanks


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: REQ: Cheap HF Aerial
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 14:57:48 GMT
Organization: Ohio Edison Company, Akron OH
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>I'd like to make a HF aerial to improve the reception
>of my AOR-1000 at the lowest possible cost.  I guess
>a line of wire out the window would work, but I'd like
>some help.  What length of wire should I use (half-wave?)
>.....

Actually, a line of wire out the window works pretty well!  There  are
about a million variations on wire antennas, and I've found that almost
anything will do a reasonable job on receive.  Here is the tip of the
iceberg, but some things I've found work pretty well:

In the dirt cheap department, a random wire works very well.  For receive
only work, the length isn't all that critical.  There is an improvment when
the antenna is 1/4 wavelength (or multiple thereof) of the received
frequency , but since you'll be listening to everything from 0.1MHz to
30MHz with it, 1/4 wavelength is always changing.

                                                234
1/4 wavelength antenna length in feet =  ----------------
                                          frequency (MHz)


I've had good luck with a piece of wire, between 50 and 150 feet long, tied
to the house on one end, and a tree or similar support on the other.  If
you live on a small lot, you can even run it around the lot in a few
directions in a V or Z shape, using trees, garage roofs, etc. as supports
at the corners.  The lower the frequency you are interested in, the more a
longer wire will help.

It is a good idea to get it off the ground at least 15 feet, but for casual
HF receiving, there aren't a lot of advantages in going over 30 feet or so.
This is because (unlike VHF and UHF) most of what you will receive isn't
line of sight, but is being bounced off the ionoshere.

I've used everything from enameled #28 magnet wire (almost invisible, but
won't last long in the wind and ice), to #14 stranded, insulated hookup
wire.  All seemed to work pretty well for HF receiving, but the easiest to
work with is about #18 stranded, insulated wire.  Although the true antenna
engineers will tell you that insulated wire isn't the best electrically, it
is hard to beat for a simple receive antenna.  You can run it through and
around trees, poles, or whatever without any insulators, and it doesn't
tend to corrode like the bare stuff.

To connect the wire to the scanner, run the house end of the wire through a
window, and connect it to the center pin of a male BNC connector.  Be
careful that the wire that goes through the window is insulated from any
metal siding, window frames, etc.  If you use a strong insulated wire, you
may get away with closing the window on the wire (no hole drilling
required!).

Also be warned that this, or any outside antenna will transmit lightning to
your radio.  Long wires can also build up fairly high voltages just from
static electricity caused by the wind blowing over the wire.  It is a good
idea to disconnect the scanner from the antenna when your not using it.  Of
course, also don't do things like run the antenna near/over power lines,
etc.

For good antenna reading, check out these books your local library:

ARRL Antenna Handbook
ARRL Radio Amateurs' Handbook

Hope this helps!

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John Wagner                  [e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Garrett Dempsey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: REQ: Frequencies
Date: 15 Oct 1995 19:40:47 -0400
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Does anyone have the freq (MHz) corresponding to Ch. 9 & 10 for NYPD? Or
are they "secure" freqs, and none of my business to know? I've heard a lot
of references to "Go to 9", etc.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:12 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: REQ: Reno Nv. Freqs.
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: Cruzio Community Networking System, Santa Cruz, CA
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 07:55:36 GMT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: Reno
Sender: [e-mail] (Jim Jensen)
Lines: 8

    Greetings all.  I find myself getting dragged to the Reno/Tahoe area next
weekend for a friends stag party.  I was just wondering if there was anything
that would be worth tuning into up there.  Many thanks in advance.

-Jim Jensen
[e-mail]
"The ultimate battle between good and evil is really goofy." Crow T. Robot



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Potts)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: REQ:Freqs for Blue Angels
Date: 14 Oct 1995 14:46:26 GMT
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Roland B. Burgan ([e-mail]) wrote:

: All Military aircraft now use C3 systems, which are digitally
: encryped, and therefore not monitorable. However, prior to their
: advent, I had the following freqs in my list:

: USN Blue Angels :
:    Gnd. Support - 121.9 Mhz
:   Rptr - 142.025(in),142.625(out)
:   Common Airshow Laison - 123.4
:   Main - 143.60

: USAF THUNDERBIRDS:
:   Gnd. Support - 413.025 Mhz
:   Operations - 120.45
:   Air to air - 140.40/141.85
:   common Laison - 123.4

: USA GOLDEN ANGELS:
:   Operations - 32.30 Mhz
:   Primary - 42.35
:   Common Airshow Laison - 123.4


: [Roland Burgan - Hancock, MI]
: --

I was able to monitor the Blue Angels in the clear on
307.700MHz & 275.350MHz at fleet week.  While most military
aircraft are probably equiped with C3 systems it is not
practical that they would be used in non tactical
situations.  Most ATC systems are civilian and therefore
not C3 equiped.

John



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (FScriver)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: RS PRO-36
Date: 14 Oct 1995 09:02:14 -0400
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I have a Radio Shack PRO-36 scanner. I am a bit confused on how Radio
Shack determines the model numbers that they use for their various
scanners. It seems that the Pro-32 and Pro-34 are better scanners than
mine, yet mine has a higher number ;-) Anyway I am wondering if anyone
knows of any mods for my PRO-36. Please E-Mail me at [e-mail] or
leave a message here. Thanx!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (MacAvoy)
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Subject: RS Pro-51
Date: 17 Oct 1995 14:38:36 GMT
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Just bought this, and came back to scanning after a few years hiatus. Does
anyone know of any useful mods for this scanner? Its got a lot of range, and
fast scanning, but due to the nature of RS products, I am wondering what else
can be enabled.

Liam



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mohd Fadzil Mahfodh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanner wanted
Date: 15 Oct 1995 08:14:59 GMT
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Hello,

Could anybody out there advise me where to get scanner
(AOR prefered)in Malaysia (neighbouring Singapore). Willing to pay
premium price.

Thank you in advance for any suggestion/offer/advise/info.


/[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (conor)
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Subject: scanners
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 04:14:06 GMT
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Hello,
       This is a test.   I am sorry to Waste your time.
       My brother has a nice Radio Shack scanner
      I bought an attatchment to plug it into my car's ciggarett
lighter. But that did not work correctly.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: scanners & speed traps
Date: 16 Oct 1995 02:11:08 GMT
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I was driving back from a trip to Valencia and magic Mountain. Was on
I-10 east heading home to the Phoenix area. It was about 2am. As I got
near buckeye, i started to hear traffic on the Highway patrol and
Sheriff's frequencies requesting 28's and 29's. Once I heard the location
I knew what they were up to. I exited the freeway and took the back roads.

A few years ago, I was driving East on the 10, I was running about 90-95
through the desert, I started to slow down as i neared the city but was
going to keep my speed up until I got a bit closer... well under a
bridge, i saw two cars facing in opposite directions, as I got closer,
one turned on his lights and came after me. Rather than pull over on the
freeway shoulder or emergency lane, I found the next off ramp and exited
the freeway. It'ssafer that way, I have heard of officers getting killed
or seriously injured on freeways by drivers hitting them during a stop.

anyway, they were `nice'I was going about 80 at the time I was spotted
but they only said I was doing 75... have German Blood in me, My Mother
is from Germany, There they have No speed limits!!




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanners in Canada
Date: 15 Oct 1995 07:04:05 GMT
Organization: CS Outreach Services, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, USA
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Gee Ng ([e-mail]) wrote:
: My understanding is that you can purchase scanners in Canada that are cellular
: capable(at least for now), but they are considered contraband by U.S. Customs,
: and could be confiscated if you try to bring them across the border.

If they did, they would be exceeding their authority. According to the relevant
statutes, it is illegal to import or manufacture for sale. The law says nothing
about bringing one in for your private use, or even as gifts.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Frank Laughlin)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,seattle.forsale.computers
Subject: Seattle/Tacoma scanner 4 sale!
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 95 23:35:17 GMT
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I have a Pro-46 100-channel programmable scanner with
the ability to receive the following frequencies for sale

29-54   Mhz   108-174 Mhz   406-512 Mhz   806-823.9375 Mhz
851-868.9375 Mhz    896.1125-956 Mhz

This one was manufactured in 1992 before the extra FCC laws covering
cordless and cellular phones(among other bands) were disallowed to
be manufactured anymore.  I am including four rechargable batteries,
power/charging wall adaptor, window clip antenna base for vehicles
and a telescoping antenna, Police Call(1995), and Beyond Police
Call (1995). All of the above for a firm $125...

Leave e-mail to [e-mail] or call Frank at [phone].



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JeffCLI)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Signal Intelligence BBS in New York
Date: 16 Oct 1995 06:11:54 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Does anyone know what happened to the scanner/SW BBS in Manhattan that was
called "Signal Intelligence"?  I have called the number that I had used in
the past, but there is never any answer.  I call infrequently, but I would
like to remain in contact with this BBS, because of it's extensive
databases.
Thanks,
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Signal Intelligence BBS in New York
Date: 16 Oct 1995 08:25:07 -0400
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In <45tb5a$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (JeffCLI) writes:

>Does anyone know what happened to the scanner/SW BBS in Manhattan that was
>called "Signal Intelligence"?  I have called the number that I had used in
>the past, but there is never any answer.  I call infrequently, but I would
>like to remain in contact with this BBS, because of it's extensive
>databases.

The number is 212-864-0112.

Also try my Scanning Reference: http://www.panix.com/clay/scanning/

--
- o - o     Clay Irving ([e-mail]), N2VKG
o - o o     AEC NYC ARES, New York County
o -         Deputy Radio Operator, NYC RACES, New York County
- o - -     Start --> http://www.panix.com/clay


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:21 1995
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From: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: South Carolina Freqs
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 15:29:17
Organization: Megaweb
Lines: 5
Sender: Philippe Guthrie <[e-mail]> (from www-7-115.gnn.com. 205.188.7.115)
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My boss is taking a trip to South Carolina next week, and asked
me to get some frequencies, primarily police and fire/ems, for
the Anderson and McCormick, SC area. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. In other words, help me keep the boss happy!!



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (GUN DISH)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: speed on pro51
Date: 14 Oct 1995 12:46:36 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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In response to your question, yes it will scan faster if thefreq are in
order.  It has something to do with the way the cpu tunes the different
sections in the radio.  It is faster for the radio to keep tuning in one
direction than to jump back in forth.




Remeber: In god we trust, all others we moniter


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (jon kahlo )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: St. Louis Freqs needed
Date: 15 Oct 1995 02:50:11 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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   I need help in finding St. Louis, MO freqs. I am mainly interested
in public service, gov't, etc. Would appreciate any help. Thanks.


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert I Sinclair )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Thoughts on radio privacy
Date: 16 Oct 1995 05:53:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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Message-ID: <45ss0h$[e-mail]>
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X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Oct 15 10:53:21 PM PDT 1995

Without starting a flame fest or eternal thread I wonder waht peoples
thoughts on radio privacy are.

If you intercept a broadcasted radio signal on your own property and
listen in on it (but were not the intended recipient) is that wrong to
do?

Who should assume the responsibility of radio security? The originator
of the transmission or legal restrictions to possible eavesdroppers?

What would constitute malicious interception of a transmission?

Who is the rightful owner of a braodcasted private communication?

Should it be considered acceptable (legally, socially, morally)for
purported private communications to be intercepted by parties that are
not the intended recipient?

should or would you be concerned about others listening to your
"private" communications?

If in commerce a competitor listened to two way radio transmissions of
your company and used the information garnered in this manner against
you. Would that be OK? Is that use of radio recievers considered legal?

Should the government be involved in the selection and administartion
of encryption tools for private communications? Can the keys really be
kept secured in that scenario? What if the key codes got out of secured
storage?

If a pay television microwave broadcast is intercepted and decoded to
provide free viewing of the content would you consider this to be fair?
What if you were the service provider?


MHO:

Soon I anticipate major radio systems (I.E. municipal, public
telephone, SMR services etc) to be converted to digital in the not so
distant future. This will certainly make eavesdropping more difficult.
Personally, I think that if you are using a radio system you are
responsible for ensuring security. However, I think it should be
considered unlawful ford a third party intercept an encrypted
transmission with the intent to decrypt and monitor the content without
knowledge of the originating party.

Robert-s








From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:25 1995
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From: David Crawford <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Thoughts on radio privacy
Date: 16 Oct 1995 11:46:22 GMT
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[e-mail] (Robert I Sinclair ) wrote:
>If you intercept a broadcasted radio signal on your own property and
>listen in on it (but were not the intended recipient) is that wrong to
>do?

If it is BROADCASTED, then it is fair game, period.  Two  way communications
are covered by the communications acts.

>Who should assume the responsibility of radio security? The originator
>of the transmission or legal restrictions to possible eavesdroppers?

It is the responsibility of the originating station to ensure
the privacy of it's transmissions.  Despite the ECPA, you can't outlaw thhe
laws of physics.

David Crawford         [e-mail]






From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:26 1995
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From: D Stark <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Thoughts on radio privacy
Date: 16 Oct 1995 20:14:19 GMT
Organization: NF2G Enterprises
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[e-mail] (Robert I Sinclair ) wrote:

>If you intercept a broadcasted radio signal on your own property and
>listen in on it (but were not the intended recipient) is that wrong to
>do?

   No.

>Who should assume the responsibility of radio security? The originator
>of the transmission or legal restrictions to possible eavesdroppers?

   The originator.  We already have legal restrictions and
they don't work.

>What would constitute malicious interception of a transmission?

   Interception for the purpose of harming the sender or
recipient in some way.

>Who is the rightful owner of a braodcasted private communication?

   "Broadcasted [sic] private" is an oxymoron.  Nothing
that has been broadcast can be private, by definition.

>Should it be considered acceptable (legally, socially, morally)for
>purported private communications to be intercepted by parties that are
>not the intended recipient?

   Depends on how you define "private".  If it is sent
unscrambled over analog radio frequencies, then it has been
 "broadcast" and is not capable of being "private" (see
above).

>should or would you be concerned about others listening to your
>"private" communications?

   Yes, I would, since my "private" communications are
conducted by private means, such as letter (sealed and
mailed), wired telephone or face-to-face.  I do not attempt
to conduct private conversations on the radio.

>If in commerce a competitor listened to two way radio transmissions of
>your company and used the information garnered in this manner against
>you. Would that be OK? Is that use of radio recievers considered legal?

   Under US and Canadian law (and probably most others),
that is illegal.

>Should the government be involved in the selection and administartion
>of encryption tools for private communications? Can the keys really be
>kept secured in that scenario? What if the key codes got out of secured
>storage?

   The government should be another encryption customer,
not the determiner of the market.  If the government had
the keys to your house, would you consider it to be secure?

>If a pay television microwave broadcast is intercepted and decoded to
>provide free viewing of the content would you consider this to be fair?

   No.  Nor is it legal (whatever that's worth).

>What if you were the service provider?

   Any difference in attitude would be hyprocrisy on my
part, wouldn't it?

73 de Dave, NF2G




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Sam Dunham)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radios
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 08:07:05
Organization: Best Internet Communications, Inc. ([e-mail])
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In article <45v6q5$[e-mail]> john <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: john <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Trunked Radios
>Date: 17 Oct 1995 03:09:57 GMT

>[e-mail] (John Moran) wrote:
>>Bill Nelson ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>: Rick ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>
>>: : If I had the software, would I be able to program the radio to receive
>>: : their private group, or does Motorola have to add some fancy code
>>: : somewhere?
>>
>>: You will be able to monitor their private group on your scanner, although
>>: not easily - if others are using the frequencies as well. This is because
>>: all users share all the active frequencies - with each transmission
>>: occurring on a different frequency.
>>
>>tghat depends on how the system is set up, some systems keep the same
>>talk groups on the same frequencies while others constantly change
>>frequencies
>>JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


>How does one monitor trunked radio organizations properly then?  If the
>avid listener does not have the software, what are some other options?
>The only thing I have heard is to program a jurisdictions frequencies
>into a bank(s) of a scanner then scan without delay and priority.  What
>else can you offer?

>john

The new Scan*Star Plus for Windows software has a sub list scanning feature
that can help in monitoring trunk groups. Call the Scan*Star BBS at
1-408-258-6462 or the Scan*Star web at www.scanstar.com.

-Sam-



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Earls)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunking (was Re: Frequency Pool Help?
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Off I go to:

        http://comp.uark.edu/~plaws/scan/

Thanks Peter.




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:30 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: UK-Police
Date: 17 Oct 1995 12:47:50 GMT
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Hi there,
last year we were involved in a car-accident in Scotland. As the police
arrived at the scene of the accident I asked several officers, if the man who
caused the accident was insured. At that moment nobody could/would tell me
if that person was insured. Now I was wondering, if the UK-Police has't got
the possibility to check licenceplate and insurance of a car over the radio.
In my country (The netherlands) you can offen hear policemen check if there's
an insurance available for the car, if the person who's driving has a
drivers' licence and if the APK (which is a check a car needs every year) is
O.K.
Well, after a few weeks, they told us that the driver that caused the
accident had no drivers' licence and no insurance. So it could be that this
was the reason

Bye Marcel




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brice D. Hornback)
Subject: Uniden SC 150B
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I'm looking for information regarding the SPORTCAT. Any info would be helpful.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Runyon)
Subject: Re: Uniden SC 150B
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I'm looking for information regarding the SPORTCAT. Any info would be
helpful.
>
I just bought one for $159.95.  So far it has proven to be pretty good.  Not
the greatest in sensitivity and has some birdies in bad spots, but all in all
pretty decent for the money.

Regards,
DOUG






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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Unidentified Music Broadcast
Date: 16 Oct 1995 01:41:43 GMT
Organization: Internet Direct, Inc.
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F. Barry Mulligan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: > On 928.9125 I receive strong music broadcasts.

: This is indeed Muzak (or its local equivilent). It is licensed under the
: Private Operational-Fixed Microwave Service as a "multiple address system"
: i.e. from a single xmitter to multiple rcvrs. The usual allocations are
: 928-929 and 952-960 MHz.
:                                                            /* barry /&
MUZAK has been known to use 928.9125, 956.3125, and 956.3125
In some areas they have a pop channel and an easy listening channel

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:34 1995
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Subject: Updated WWW Site
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 15:56:35 PDT
Organization: epix.net
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The AmSoft web page "http://hamster.business.uwo.ca/~amsoft/" has
been reworked.  It is now the Mother of all WWW sites for Amateur
Radio.  Connect to over 125 ham sites direct from the front page.
New HTML work includes online forms, plenty of  color and lots of
FUN!  It could be addicting using our page.





From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Want good scanner logging program.
Date: 15 Oct 1995 08:52:17 -0500
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I am looking for a good logging program for my 200 channel scanner.
I have tried several programs, but none have provisions to list by channel
number as well as by frequency.  Also would like to have a nice pirnt
option so I can have a nice reference while in the field.

Thanks for the help!

Tom



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Want PRO-2006 S-Meter Mod
Date: 15 Oct 1995 07:05:34 GMT
Organization: CS Outreach Services, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, USA
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Andy Moss ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : THE MOD CAN BE FOUND IN THE SCANNER MODIFICATION HANDBOOK VOLUME 2     BY
: : BILL CHEEK.


: : TRY  CRB RESEARCH BOOKS, INC.
: :          P.O. BOX 56
: :          COMMACK, NY    11725

: : GOOD LUCK        MR. SKEETER

: The modification can also be found, for free, on "ftp.oak.oakland.edu".

Well, which came first - the ftp mod or Cheek's mod? Are they identical or
different? If different, which one is better - and why?

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:36 1995
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: Want PRO-2006 S-Meter Mod
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Bill Nelson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Andy Moss ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : : THE MOD CAN BE FOUND IN THE SCANNER MODIFICATION HANDBOOK VOLUME 2     BY
: : : BILL CHEEK.


: : : TRY  CRB RESEARCH BOOKS, INC.
: : :          P.O. BOX 56
: : :          COMMACK, NY    11725

: : : GOOD LUCK        MR. SKEETER

: : The modification can also be found, for free, on "ftp.oak.oakland.edu".

: Well, which came first - the ftp mod or Cheek's mod? Are they identical or
: different? If different, which one is better - and why?

Hi Bill.

Be sure to read my thoughts on Bill Cheek and the USSN's thoughts on his
newest book.

Better yet, take a look at my thoughts on Cheek's "World Scanner Report"
as posted here a couple of months ago.  If you are in need of another
copy, let me know and I'll pass it along.

Cheers!

Andy

 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
 : ComputerLink Online [phone]  104 lines, SLIP, 9600 - 28,800 bps :
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:38 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Want PRO-2006 S-Meter Mod
Date: 16 Oct 1995 07:04:21 GMT
Organization: CS Outreach Services, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, USA
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Andy Moss ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : : The modification can also be found, for free, on "ftp.oak.oakland.edu".

: : Well, which came first - the ftp mod or Cheek's mod? Are they identical or
: : different? If different, which one is better - and why?

: Hi Bill.

: Be sure to read my thoughts on Bill Cheek and the USSN's thoughts on his
: newest book.

I know how you feel about Cheek. His personality is not one of my favorite
types either.  I think the USSN review was a crock of bull. So what if he
only covers scanners that can be modified? That is the purpose of his books.
He does tell how to apply some of the mods to other scanners.

: Better yet, take a look at my thoughts on Cheek's "World Scanner Report"
: as posted here a couple of months ago.  If you are in need of another
: copy, let me know and I'll pass it along.

I have seen it. I think a lot of your points are just being picky. However,
I agree that Cheek has too much bitching in his newsletter. It is not as
good as it used to be. Whether it is worth the subscription price is for
each individual to decide for themselves.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Want PRO-2006 S-Meter Mod
Date: 16 Oct 1995 07:05:39 GMT
Organization: CS Outreach Services, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, USA
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Andy Moss ([e-mail]) wrote:

: : : The modification can also be found, for free, on "ftp.oak.oakland.edu".

: : Well, which came first - the ftp mod or Cheek's mod? Are they identical or
: : different? If different, which one is better - and why?

: Better yet, take a look at my thoughts on Cheek's "World Scanner Report"
: as posted here a couple of months ago.  If you are in need of another
: copy, let me know and I'll pass it along.

By the way - how about answering my questions?

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (LOEBLER RICK R)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wanted: AMPS Signalling Format
Date: 15 Oct 1995 15:42:24 +1000
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Keywords: AMPS cellular


Can anybody help me out with the signalling format used by
analogue AMPS phones. Perhaps you may be able to refer me to the correct
ISO standard.

Please reply via email.

Thanks

Rick Loebler



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:40 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Susan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wanted: Scout information
Date: 17 Oct 1995 09:44:02 -0400
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I'm looking to buy a scout to hook to my 2006.
anyone out there wish to express their likes and dislikes w/scout.

What cables,software ... do you need to make this connection.
I have a 2006 w/OPTO 456.

Any comments would be helpful.

Richard.




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:41 1995
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From: "Roy D." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: What's the Canadian => US $ conversion ?
Date: 15 Oct 1995 02:59:53 GMT
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There is a neat currency exchange server at:
http://www.xe.com/xenon/currency.htm  (sorry, I don't know how to make a
link)   Try it out!
--


Roy Derryberry, KD3LZ  Member: Aircraft Owners and Pilot's Association
([e-mail])               American Radio Relay League
                               Utility Workers Union of America

If I'd known I was gonna live this long, I'd taken better care of myself.




From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (AlfAlfa )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: What's the Canadian => US $ conversion ?
Date: 15 Oct 1995 23:39:55 GMT
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In <45plj1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
writes:
>
>  6 bits   [C$1.00 = US$0.7470  as of Fri 13 Oct 95]

+++++++++++++++++++++

I find that the best XChange rates are from the ATM Machines;preferably
with a Bank Debit Card. The $C to $US; tends to be less than 1 percent.
++++++++++++++++++++++


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Where are radar det/scanners legal
Date: 15 Oct 1995 06:59:40 GMT
Organization: CS Outreach Services, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, USA
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Mike McCarty ([e-mail]) wrote:
: )If your reig is an actual amateur transceiver, then the FCC has
: )preempted any local laws which might impact you.  The FCC
: )premption makes no statements as to any programed frequencies
: )etc.  The premption is strictly based on your being a ham
: )and that you are using a ham transceiver which happens to
: )have an extended receive capability.

: It might still be against local or state laws to intercept
: transmissions on these frequencies, although possession of
: a receiver capable of doing so might not be illegal.

It is against federal law to listen to cellular or cordless phone
communications - period.

The exemption law only covers the possesion of transceivers capable
of receiving those frequencies. It does NOT make such listening legal.
If it had, then that part of the preemption statute would have been
overridden by the recent ammendments to the EPCA.

Of course, the law is stupid - and pretty much unenforceable. That is
why the feds made the importation or manufacuring for sale illegal.
They realized that no one would pay attention to the law, so did all
they could to stop it in another way.  It was as idiotic as the current
prohibition on some drugs and firearms.

Bill


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Wide band RX amplifier recommendations
Date: 16 Oct 1995 01:44:05 GMT
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[e-mail] wrote:

: >
: > I am looking for a widebanded RX amplifier and would like some
: > reccomendations.  It will be used in a rural environment so overload is not
: > a problem.
: >

if it's 30-470mhz  you are after, try using a standard Television signal
amplifier. Most of these work on the 30-470mhz range!!!

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ceres Technologies)
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Subject: WTB:  AOR8000
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 19:11:40 GMT
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WTB: AOR8000 with cellular option enabled, please email price, etc.



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:46 1995
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: WTB:  AOR8000
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 03:58:53 GMT
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[e-mail] (Ceres Technologies) wrote:

>WTB: AOR8000 with cellular option enabled, please email price, etc.

Please advise if you had any luck with your add Iam allso looking for
this model

Dave Harmer
Moncton, NB
Canada
[phone]
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:47 1995
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From: Jonathan Clough <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: WTB: Air/Aviation Scanner (ie Sony Air 8)
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 08:44:27 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Steve Kennedy" writes:

> I am looking for a decent (triple conversion if possible) scanner that covers
> PRIMARILY 108-136 Mhz and 220-420 Mhz (Aviation and Military).  I am not that
> interested in a general purpose scanner.
>
> From what I have seen, something like a Sony Air 8 might fill the bill, but I
> do not know much about this model.  Either a desk model or a handheld would be
> considered.

Whilst the Air-8 (Air-7 in some other places) is a fine VHF "airband"
receiver it is not much use for UHF as it doesn't have 220-400MHz !
Its also rather large when compared to some of the newer 'stuff.

I guess it depends on your budget as to alternatives - in the handheld
line the PRO-43, 60 and 26 all have full UHF coverage for Military aviation.
The Bearcat BC2500XLT (still available ??) and 3000XLT both have full
coverage. The Yupiteru VT-225 is a "dedicated" VHF/UHF Airband unit with
little other coverage - not the cheapest around but very good performance.
Something secondhand may also fit the 'bill like the AR1000 or
PRO-43.


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From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John A. Meyers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: WTB: Icom R1
Date: 16 Oct 1995 03:45:55 GMT
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I am interested in purchasing a used unblocked Icom R-1.  If anyone is
interested in selling one please contact me at the above captioned E-Mail
address.

Respecfully,

John


From [e-mail] Tue Oct 17 16:29:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (BILL DILLSTROM )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Yaesu FRG-9600 info wanted....
Date: 15 Oct 1995 13:03:25 GMT
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 I am looking for the plans for the HF converter that works with the
Yaesu FRG-9600. I know there are several different kits that were made
available by third parties that allowed this machine to tune the entire
HF spectrum, along with its standard capabilities of 60 to 905 MZ. If
you have anything along these lines please email me with information. I
also have a friend who is very interested in the HF capabilities for
his unit. Thanks....Bill

P.S. I also have a copy of the CAT software if anyone is
interested.....



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:39 1995
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Date: 20 Oct 1995 01:27:00 GMT
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To: shareware

can anyone suggest any ibm shareware for use in a scanner?
many thanks



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:40 1995
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From: atari7 <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: 900 mhz phone frequencies
Date: 19 Oct 1995 23:25:47 GMT
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i can't seem to find the 900 mhz phone frequencies listed in any
of my frequency books.  If anyone has them please send then to
me.  I am looking for the exact frequencies not just the range of
frequencies.

tia
dennis


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clive Parsons)
Subject: Re: A World-Wide VHF (??)
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[e-mail] (Andy VanDuyne) wrote:
 > [e-mail] (Graeme Bartlett) wrote:
 >
 > > For example the US fleetcomsat is around 261 MHz can be heard almost
 > > everywhere on the earth thanks to several satellites.
 >
 > My interest is piqued...  where might I find the freqs, and what is
 > the mode?


For Europe, Channel X-Ray Fleetsatcom West 261.675MHz
(extensive phone patch use).

Sorry, I can't confirm an exact freq for the other three Fleetsatcoms.

However...

Mil sats vary between 225-400MHz.

 LeaSat        USN   243.850 - 243.900
 Fleetsatcom   USN   243.960 - 244.100
 Marisat             248.800 - 249.400
 LeaSat        USAF  249.350 - 249.850
 Fleetsatcom   USN   260.775 - 268.350

FM deviation = 25kHz. Try WFM for best results.

Let us know when you get results!

Best,

Clive.
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (tom moninger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Air Force1/Secret Service freqs?
Date: 20 Oct 1995 15:56:09 GMT
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I have seen many posts in the past with these freqs but I, of course, did not save them.  Now, the Pres and the Czech and Slovac Pres' are coming to town

Thnaks for your time.

Tom

--
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85 EMRB  University of Iowa
Iowa City, IA 52242   319-335-8142


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:42 1995
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From: Steve Blackmore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AOR 3000A & 3000plus
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 01:58:16 GMT
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Can some one tell me the precise difference between the AOR 3000A
and the Plus?

Are the components easily available and can the mods be done by
"Joe Public"?

If so, has anyone got detailed mod. insructions and part no.s?


--
Steve Blackmore

SAB Computers - On-site Archiving Service & Data Storage
--------------- PC Sales and Maintenance----------------
Telephone [phone] (Voice 08:00 - 22:00, Data/Fax 22:00 - 08:00)




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:43 1995
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From: Rolf Mathison <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AOR8000 & Icom CI-V Interface
Date: 20 Oct 1995 11:55:34 GMT
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[e-mail] (Anon E Mouse) wrote:
>
>>Purchased an Aor8000 and Scout 400 combo and the Scout can control
>>the AOR8000 with the mod and connecting cable as advertized.  The Scout
>>via its built in CI-V interface and tune my Icom R7100 as well.
>>
>>My question - Can I use the CI-V interface I bought with the Icom to connect
>>the Aor8000 to my computer?
>
>Not without modifying the CI-V interface.
>
>
>A suitable interface can be made for about $10 or so or you can do a
>minor modification to your Icom CI-V interface to allow it to function
>the same way as the CU8232 and similar interfaces do.
>
>
Could you please post the mod to the ICOM CI-V interface?

Regards,

Rolf




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill Moore)
Subject: AR2015 or 2002 ?
Sender: [e-mail] (News )
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Hi...
I just bought a scanner that has me confused in more ways than one.
It's made by AOR, and the model number on the rear tag says 'AR2002'.
However, when I turn it on it scrolls a message across the LCD that
says 'AR2015'.
Which model is it?

I also am in need of an owners manual for it (xerox copies gladly accepted)
and would like very much to get ahold of the software and cable to
allow computer control. Are there any shareware programs, or is the only
source through AOR?

I was told this is a 2000 channel scanner, and the thoughts of programming
it manually scare me, but would probably make some orthopedic surgeon
very happy :-).

Any and all replies gratefully accepted!



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:46 1995
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From: Jonathan Clough <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AR2015 or 2002 ?
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 08:37:08 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] "Bill Moore" writes:

> Hi...
> I just bought a scanner that has me confused in more ways than one.
> It's made by AOR, and the model number on the rear tag says 'AR2002'.
> However, when I turn it on it scrolls a message across the LCD that
> says 'AR2015'.
> Which model is it?

It was an AR2002 that is now an AR2515, not 2015 :-)

ACE Communications modified AOR AR2002's by replacing the main processor
board. It was not an AOR Japan product. The end result was 1984 memory
channels together with 12 search banks and a scanner that, at the time was
considerably faster than anything else. The AR2002's actual receiving circuitry
stayed (except a few minor twiddles).  The AR2002 as a radio was (and is)
very good indeed however as the unit only had 20 memory channels and two
speeds of slow and slower it was falling behind in the popularity stakes. The
AR2515 was something new.

The 1984 channels are organised into 62 banks 32 channels. You cannot
program frequencies into specific "channels" within each bank as the the
main CPU organised each bank into numerical order.  It didn't matter
which order you keyed frequencies in they would be sorted numerically.
The reason for this highlighted one of the AR2515 problems in so much as
the replacement CPU ran faster through the channels that the original
AR2002's PLL circuitry could keep up with. By numerically going up
through the bank it  helped the PLL in locking up a little quicker and
allowing the '2515 to stop when it "heard" a transmission.

When you do program the unit up it would also be a good idea to perhaps
organise you banks in progressevily increasing frequency areas.

You could scan a single bank or link any number of banks together.

Banks 63 to 78 were search banks where you could add a lower and upper
limit together with mode and increment step to search between - again
the unit was very fast cmapred to others but at times ran a little too
fast for its own good. Having the "DELAY" on was usually a neccessaty.

> I also am in need of an owners manual for it (xerox copies gladly accepted)
> and would like very much to get ahold of the software and cable to
> allow computer control. Are there any shareware programs, or is the only
> source through AOR?

Try ACE Communications for a copy of the manual, if not I think we may
have a copy left over but I'd have to hunt around.  There was an AR2515
specific package around a few years back produced by Gesmundo (?), I'm
not 100% sure if some of the newer control packages such as ScanCat Gold
or Scanstar would drive the '2515


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:47 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Stephan Piel)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: Re: Breaking News Network
Followup-To: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Date: 18 Oct 1995 00:21:16 -0400
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Anthony LaBella ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I subscribe to BNN in the NYC area.  My gripe is all the auto accidents
: on the system.  There are so many every day that they simply aren't news
: stories.  When man bites dog (as they say) THATS NEWS!
: --

   Can somebody explain to me what these public safety paging notification
networks such as BNN are exactly?  Reading the postings in this group it
seems that that accidents, etc. are paged to subscribers over
alpha-numeric pagers. Is this correct?
   Who are these services aimed at? People who have business with
accidents (such as EMTs, reporters, etc.) or just people who are
interested (such as scanner enthusiasts)?
   About how much do these services cost per month?



                                        -Stephan Piel


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:48 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cell phone clone ques
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 11:01:00 -0500
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VU>Technically it's still legal to "clone" a phone. As long as it's YOUR
  >phone and YOUR number. It's in the same area of laws that allows you to
  >have more than one phone in your house.


What a totally inaccurate, misleading statement. Why even enter
this conversation is you have no idea what you are talking about?

Clint Bradford

 * 1st 2.00 #8286 * Reality is only for those who lack imagination.
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Si Ballenger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cheek3 - The Ultimate Scanner?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 04:29:50 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Andy Moss) wrote:
>Hi Scanner People!
>

>Cheek's last one.  I haven't read the "Ultimate Scanner" and
>have no intentions of purchasing it either.  Cheek's attitude is

>
>Cheers!
>
>Andy
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> : ComputerLink Online [phone]  104 lines, SLIP, 9600 - 28,800 bps :
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

   Damn good book review of a book you have not actually read. You probably
 know a guy that has a friend who almost for sure knows a place to buy
brand new WWII army jeeps still in the box for $20!    Till later, Si B.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Roger W. Taylor Jr. )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: CHP Reception
Date: 19 Oct 1995 20:54:27 GMT
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    I have all the CHP frequencies loaded into my scanner.  I live
in Fresno, CA.  I live about 2 miles from Freeway 99.  I have used
my antenna on the roof of my 2-story house.  I have used a R/S
magnetic mount antenna.  I have also used a telescoping antenna I
also purchased from R/S.

    My problem is poor reception.  I receive the Fresno Base very
well, but the mobiles seldom are received.  Yesterday I drove from
Fresno to Sacramento with my scanner on all the way.  I received
the Base stations along the way but only received a couple mobiles,
and they were so weak I couldn't understand what they were saying.

    If anyone knows what I am doing wrong or if you have any
suggestions, I would really appreciate it.  Thanks


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:50 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Wayda)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: CHP Reception
Date: 20 Oct 1995 04:45:37 GMT
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You are not doing anything wrong. The CHP mobiles are low power, and do not
use repeaters. CHP Base antennas are typically located thousands of feet
above sea level on mountain tops, and therefore can receive the low power
mobile transmissions. Unfortunately this is the way it is. I have heard a
rumor in this newsgroup that the CHP will go to repeaters, but I think
that it is only a rumor.

Jim Wayda
Captain, Scanner Price Police.



In article <466du3$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Roger
W. Taylor Jr. ) wrote:

>     I have all the CHP frequencies loaded into my scanner.  I live
> in Fresno, CA.  I live about 2 miles from Freeway 99.  I have used
> my antenna on the roof of my 2-story house.  I have used a R/S
> magnetic mount antenna.  I have also used a telescoping antenna I
> also purchased from R/S.
>
>     My problem is poor reception.  I receive the Fresno Base very
> well, but the mobiles seldom are received.  Yesterday I drove from
> Fresno to Sacramento with my scanner on all the way.  I received
> the Base stations along the way but only received a couple mobiles,
> and they were so weak I couldn't understand what they were saying.
>
>     If anyone knows what I am doing wrong or if you have any
> suggestions, I would really appreciate it.  Thanks

+-jim
[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert I Sinclair )
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Subject: Re: CHP Reception
Date: 20 Oct 1995 20:54:00 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stewart
>I thought the CHP had dropped their old system and had gone to a new
>repeater system?

>Apparently they switched over primarily because the system was almost
>fifty years old.  Of course it also doesn't hurt that occasional skip
>conditions brought in regular interference from the Missouri State
Police.
>
>
In Sacramento California the CHP just brought on line some new kind of
radio system in the UHF range. There are three towers with a microwave
link to each other and the CHP offices here in Sacto. I susperct this
is similar to the Clevland Ohio system. I do know the system is
affiliated with the region 911 emergency services system. I also have
seen the new UHF antennas on CHP cars alongside the old 47?Mhz whips.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Stewart  Jeffrey C)
Subject: Re: CHP Reception
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Jim Wayda <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>You are not doing anything wrong. The CHP mobiles are low power, and do not
>use repeaters. CHP Base antennas are typically located thousands of feet
>above sea level on mountain tops, and therefore can receive the low power

I thought the CHP had dropped their old system and had gone to a new
repeater system?

The Ontario Provincial Police did that about five years ago, moving from
their old 42 MHz equipment to the "new" 142 MHz system.  At the time I
could receive OPP base stations up to about seventy miles away but I
could only hear the mobiles that were within ten or fifteen miles.

Apparently they switched over primarily because the system was almost
fifty years old.  Of course it also doesn't hurt that occasional skip
conditions brought in regular interference from the Missouri State Police.




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Larry Van Horn)
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Subject: Re: Does Grove HAVE a cat
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 20:01:38 GMT
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[e-mail] (Tanya Wiertalla) wrote:

>What is Groves web page address?
>                                     john


www.grove.net

Larry Van Horn
Managing Editor
Satellite Times magazine



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:54 1995
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Subject: Re: Does Grove HAVE a cat
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 20:05:44 GMT
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[e-mail] (Clint Bradford) wrote:

>Subject: Re: Does Grove HAVE a catalog

>RU>No catalog.  Their web site says it's free, and I'd really
>  >like to order a scantenna.  I've got the money, I've got the mount,
>  >but I can't get seem to persuade their customer "service" drones to
>  >slip me a catalog.


>No - you really do not want to purchase a Scantenna that badly. Else
>you'd call them up and order one. Do you need a catalog in hand to call
>them voice and order?

You don't need a catalog to order something on the Grove line.  Just
tell our order staff you want a scantenna and they know what you are
talking about. Catalogs are released every 2 months and they new xmas
catalog will be in the mail in the next few days. If you need any
other assistance, feel free to contact me at my e-mail address:
[e-mail] or our business manager at [e-mail].

Larry Van Horn
Managing Editor
Satellite Times magazine



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:55 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary M. Glickman)
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Subject: Re: Does Grove HAVE a cat
Date: 20 Oct 1995 13:32:44 -0400
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: You don't need a catalog to order something on the Grove line.  Just
: tell our order staff you want a scantenna and they know what you are
: talking about. Catalogs are released every 2 months and they new xmas
: catalog will be in the mail in the next few days. If you need any
: other assistance, feel free to contact me at my e-mail address:
: [e-mail] or our business manager at [e-mail].

: Larry Van Horn
: Managing Editor
: Satellite Times magazine


I found Kelly Davis ([e-mail]) to be _extremely_  responsive to my
Email inquiries, even followed up by sending me faxes of the pertinent
information. Still don't have a catalog though, and I would think it is
to Grove's advantage to make your catalogs more available.

--

Gary M. Glickman
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:56 1995
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From: "David A. Moser" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FM Radio & TV transmitter Antennas
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 23:23:14 -0500
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In refrence to your "quad" FM question- In the early 1970's a few
stations did broadcast in "quad" FM. this, I believe was accomplished by
use of an encoded matrix signal. There were basically two types of "quad"-
1. descreet, or what was called pure 4 channel, the source had to be 4
channel through a system that kept the channels completly separate.
2. Matrix quad, it took 4 channels and encoded to 2 and then decoded back
to 4.
Hope this helps,
Dave

On 17 Oct 1995, Andy Moss wrote:

> Robert I Sinclair ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
> : I am curious if anyone knows why FM broadcast station antennas resemble
> : a fork like structure (usually there are four or more of these antennas
> : stacked on the mast). What is there distribution pattern of this array?
>
> This really depends on the configuration.   Typically, the pattern will
> be in the circular or horizontal plane and have an omni-directional or
> offset pattern.  If the transmitter is outside of the normal service area
> the pattern (typically) will be directed towards the city.  Sometimes the
> transmitter will be placed in between the service area and in  the
> direction of the nearest/strongest other station sharing that frequency.
> This is particularly the case with AM broadcasters.  Sometimes several
> arrays are used at the same time to provide "fill" and reduce multi-path
> interference on the FM signals.  This is typically at the expense of
> maximum distance.  This is the case of the CN Tower in Toronto in
> which three sets of two and three radiators are used for all of the FM
> stations.
>
> : What is inside the shaft like radome on TV Transmitter antennas. Why do
> : some radomes have a series of "bow Ties" on the exterior.
>
> Co-phased brass cones and usually plenty of them for UHF.  These are sort
> of like stacks of mini discones if you will.
>
> I'm not familiar with the function of the bowties.   I just assumed they
> are the radiating elements for the VHF TV station transmitters.
>
> : On a TV Transmitter tower how do they do maintenace, say on the lamps
> : at the top of the antenna structure. Do they do this while the station
> : is on air? TV 40 a local UHF station is purported to transmit at some 5
> : megawatts. Wouldn't one roast like a chicken if you were within a few
> : feet of the antenna?
>
> Usually maintenance is scheduled and the output power is reduced
> radically (or turned off) when someone is in close proximity of the tower.
> Ie: When my friend was working at an AM broadcaster, he would turn the
> transmitter down to 200Watts while he pushed the lawnmower around the
> antenna towers.
>
> Most tower lights last a very long time or have fail-safe second and
> third lights that kick in.  (red at night, white during day. if red
> blows, white kicks in automatically).
>
> Riggers and climbers are very highly paid people and the less they have to
> climb the towers the better off the station will be. <G>
>
> : What ever happen to "quad" radio, remember the system with 4 speakers?
> : Did station transmit the quad signal as a single FM carrier or were the
> : other two channels transmitted on the SCA channels.
>
> I remember quadraphonic 8-tracks but was never aware of any FM
> broadcasters transmitting four-channel signals.
>
> : Do all stations have SCA channel frequencies available?
>
> Nope.  But all stations are capable of employing them if they desire.  No
> extra power is required to transmit SCA broadcasts.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Andy
>
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>


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Uncle Bob)
Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *
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b w edginton ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I must have missed something. What the heck does this have to do with
: scanning ?

Absolutely NOTHING! It's another of those scammy, post everywhere,
get-rich-quick schemes that waste electronic space!

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:59 1995
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From: Aurelien Broszniowski <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
Date: 17 Oct 1995 16:00:37 GMT
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So what is this? Im strongly interested since Im a french student in
the UK. So being able to call In France for free... What a dream...

Im looking forward from news.. bye...




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:26:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher K Greenhalgh)
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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In article <460jv5$[e-mail]>,
Aurelien Broszniowski  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>So what is this? Im strongly interested since Im a french student in
>the UK. So being able to call In France for free... What a dream...
>
>Im looking forward from news.. bye...
>
>
test...no need to reply


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  |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |[e-mail] |
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  +=================================+===================================+


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:01 1995
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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[e-mail] wrote:

>JACK <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>FREECALLS WORLD WIDE E-MAIL ME FOR INFO


>Yes id like to know how





From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:01 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Milan Podhorsky)
Subject: FS: ICOM R1 Scanner - $330
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For Sale: ICOM R1 Wideband Receiver (Scanner)

- 100 KHz - 1300 MHz Continuous coverage including all cellular bands
- AM/FM/WFM Modes
- Handheld (very small 4"x 1.25" x 2.25")
- LCD display (with light)
- Clock
- Built-in rechargable battery pack
- Wideband VHF/UHF antena
- Charger
- Leather case
- Instruction Manual

This receiver has had very little use and is in Perfect condition.

$330 US + COD shipping

Please reply to:  [e-mail]


NB: I know some people have strong feelings towards this scanner, If you
do not approve of my price, please do not waist time and bandwidth if you
have nothing constructive to say (Captain Jim, you know who you are).


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:02 1995
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From: Jeff Goldman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FS: YUPITERU MVT-7100 SCANNER - $650.00
Date: 18 Oct 1995 20:16:01 GMT
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$650??? I bought my Yupi 7200 for less than that.

                     -Jeff


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] (ghardman)
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Subject: Ft. Worth Tx Freqs Needed
Date: 18 Oct 1995 13:54:17 GMT
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Need police and other law enforcement working freqs for Ft. Worth Tx



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew D. Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Getting fax-voice-modem to decode DTMF
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 02:31:21 -0400
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In article <45rdkf$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

:Is it possible to make one of these fax/voice-mail modems into a DTMF
:decoder? I KNOW they receive DTMF, because that's how you tell them, from
:a remote site, to turn on the fax or do other things. How can I tap into
:my fax/voice/modem's intelligence, and make it decode DTMF for me?

Ok, fill me in.  Is there some kind of conspiricy to drive me nuts going
on?  This must be the fifteenth post asking this question in the last two
days.  The answer is *NO*, modems do not decode DTMF, they merely *encode*
it.  The fax tones are not DTMF.  There is software available that can do
this for you via your sound card, but not through your modem.

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| The preceding was a test of the emergency broadcast system.  In |
| the event of a real emergency, it would have been directly      |
| followed by widespread panic and fear fanned by the media.      | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Andrew D. Clark | [e-mail] |  I'm listening.   |
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:06 1995
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From: "William J. (Bill) Fischer" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Help in Purchasing Base Scanner Antenna
Date: 20 Oct 1995 17:12:34 GMT
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Consider using an Icom discone.  I've used discones by several manufacturers and
IMHO this is the best.

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:06 1995
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From: Fred Evans <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: How to Find Scanner Frequencies
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:34:38 -0700
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From: Fred Evans <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: How to Find Scanner Frequencies
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 17:34:38 -0700
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

I was IN RS the other day and they said that their local POLICE CALL BOOK
was no loger going to be available through them.  My local RadioShack Store
was out and this was the response I Received.

Dose anyone one out there have a definitive info regarding  this?

Thanks in advance,
FRED

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:07 1995
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From: Anthony LaBella <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: I need info on Motorola MDT.
Date: 18 Oct 1995 01:35:28 GMT
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I've been told that no one has come out with a decoder (yet) for the
Motorola MDT.

That leads to the obvious question...  will Motorola sell an MDT with the
required software to the general public?

..and then...  do the individual PD's and FD's further encrypt the MDT
traffic?  Who knows?  Anyone?

Help!
Joe Lockhart <[e-mail]> writes:
> I need to know if anyone has decoded the Motorola MDT.
>
> Does anyone have a kit or what?
>
> 73's VE4JL..
>


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:09 1995
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Subject: Re: I need info on Motorola MDT.
Date: 18 Oct 1995 16:42:05 GMT
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Anthony LaBella <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I've been told that no one has come out with a decoder (yet) for the
>Motorola MDT.
>
>That leads to the obvious question...  will Motorola sell an MDT with the
>required software to the general public?
>
>..and then...  do the individual PD's and FD's further encrypt the MDT
>traffic?  Who knows?  Anyone?
>
>Help!
>Joe Lockhart <[e-mail]> writes:
>> I need to know if anyone has decoded the Motorola MDT.
>>
>> Does anyone have a kit or what?
>>
>> 73's VE4JL..
>>
Motorola is not going to sell any equipment to operate on any system for
which you are not licensed or not obviously an authorized user--a good
policy.  Further, apparently they require you to license their technology
before they would allow a third party manufacturer to build a
decoder.  I don't know of anyone who has licensed it.

Just having an MDT of the same type won't necessarially do you any good,
at least not without modificiation of the firmware which would require
extremely detailed knowledge of the particular protocol.  That is to say,
most systems check the physical and logical id number of the MDT against
an authorized list.  Most users have trouble even getting Motorola to
make firmware changes to their own MDTs for operational purposes!

Most agencies require a password to logon to their system as well as some
knowledge of how unit numbers are assigned.  This function is usually
programmed into the MDT but the decoding of the passwords and subsequent
authorization is handled by a computer at the base--typcially a police
department system programmed by them or a contractor.  In the more
sophisticated systems, signing on as a unit that is not actually in
service will cause a signon rejection.  Signing on as a unit that is in
service will sometimes logoff the "real" user which will eventually
cause someone with a direction finder to appear at your doorstep.

Stolen or "cloned" units can be locked out at the host from participating
in the system although, again, it may be possible to reprogram the
firmware to at least receive messages (i.e. don't cause a login to the
system at powerup and override the logic that filters out messages not
specifically for that terminal).

Once you do get into the system you may be able to read text that is
specifically directed to your terminal.  Of course, if you are not
authorized no messages would be going to you.  Intercepting all messages
would create a flood of information that would be hard to keep up with in
a large system, assuming you are sophisticated enough to rewrite the
firmware to do this.  Much of this information consists of
relatively meaningless status updates such as a signal that a
terminal has changed sites or a car is going in service.  Also, many
systems used predesigned forms either downloaded from the host or
resident in the firmware.  If this doesn't match up with the text coming
from the host system it can display text in a confusing way, but
it would be readable.

Also, larger systems have multiple radio transmitter sites.  Different
versions of the systems (even from the same manufacturer) can use
different algorithims to control the assignment of terminals to sites
(radio channels) and to track how they move and switch between "cells"
(if they use them).  Following messages to an individual terminal
requires following this switching pattern (similar to how cell phones
change sites as they roam).

Even more complicating is the fact that even similar motorola terminals
can use different speeds or at least different protocols and different
"encryption" techniques.

All in all, without a license from Motorola, it would be difficult for
the "average" person to decode the messages to get a stream of text and,
even with a license, you need substantial knowledge about how the
specific system is configured to meaningfully follow particular the
activity of a specific terminal.



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From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: I need info on Motorola MDT.
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Joe Lockhart ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I need to know if anyone has decoded the Motorola MDT.

: Does anyone have a kit or what?

Howdy,

From what I understand the data is sent "in the clear".  However, the
format of each screen is such that making sense of the information is
damn well difficult.  Not to mention the copious amounts of data that is
being sent.  My friend was easily able to decode the characters but
assembling it into something cohesive was a lost cause.

Motorola would like you to believe that you will go to jail for decoding
it - or "hacking" any of their "secrets".  I say they are full of sh*t.
Many companies are shying away from Motorola two-way due to their business
ethics and they intentional incompatability with other systems.

Cheers!

Andy


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Greg Dolkas)
Subject: Icom R-7000 eats batteries
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Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix?

I have an ICOM R-7000 receiver, which I purchased used about 2 years ago.
A few months after I got it, it started loosing memory settings.  OK, fine.
The backup battery is old.  So I replaced it.  The original battery had solder
tabs, and the new one didn't, so I had to solder directly to the battery.

Well a while later, that battery died too.  Figuring my soldering had done
some damage, I replaced it again, but invested in a socket too.

Now *that* battery has gone.

Aren't these things supposed to last a couple of years?  3 batteries in 2 years
isn't even close, and with 200 memory slots (I have the 2x mod installed),
it becomes rather inconvenient.

Suggestions?

Thanks,

Greg  KO6TH


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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Greg Dolkas)
writes:
>
>
>Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix?
>
>I have an ICOM R-7000 receiver, which I purchased used about 2 years
ago.
>A few months after I got it, it started loosing memory settings.  OK,
fine.
>The backup battery is old.  So I replaced it.  The original battery
had solder
>tabs, and the new one didn't, so I had to solder directly to the
battery.
>
>Well a while later, that battery died too.  Figuring my soldering had
done
>some damage, I replaced it again, but invested in a socket too.
>
>Now *that* battery has gone.
>
>Aren't these things supposed to last a couple of years?  3 batteries
in 2 years
>isn't even close, and with 200 memory slots (I have the 2x mod
installed),
>it becomes rather inconvenient.
>
>Suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Greg  KO6TH
I don't understand your problem. I have had my R7000 for almost 3 years
and never have had to replace a battery. still works fine. It is in
constant use here every day. I never turn it off.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John W O Farrell)
Subject: ICOM R7000 for sale
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I have an Icom R-7000 I'd like to sell.  It is in perfect condition,
works great, and includes the manual and original box.  I just don't
have enough time to use it.

I'm asking $1050, plus shipping.  Send e-mail if you're interested.

----
  --John O'Farrell
    [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Morisseau)
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In article John W O Farrell writes:

>I have an Icom R-7000 I'd like to sell.  It is in perfect condition,
>works great, and includes the manual and original box.  I just don't
>have enough time to use it.

>I'm asking $1050, plus shipping.  Send e-mail if you're interested.


        If it is as advertised (and I have no reason to beleive otherwise) this is a
true bargain, gentlemen! Somebody better jump on it.

        Usual disclaimers.
===========================================================================
               Dan Morisseau, N7ZXL - Tacoma, WA
GEnie:D.Morisseau Internet:[e-mail] (pref) OR [e-mail]
===========================================================================


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:14 1995
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Do anybody know how the computer they use in the police car works?   They use
it to run license plates and driver licenses



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Marcial E. Lopez )
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Can somebody in Miami help me get the police frequencies.  I live in
Hialeah.

I just bought a scanner and I have found some frequencies with the
search feature, but I still to get the one I want.  I have the POLICE
CALL book, but there are so many that I rather do it with the search
feature.

Can somebody help me get the right frequencies ?????


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (S Coleman )
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>>> Is there such a thing as a mobile mounting bracket for the
>>> Radio Shack PRO-2006?
>

Your Radio Shack should be able to order the mobile bracket through
their CMC Catalog.

When I put my Pro-2006 in my truck, I bungee cord it to my CB.  Works
great and its cheaper then the $24 bracket.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michel2302)
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Subject: Re: My converter is smoking!
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i've also built this converter- and it didn't work.
just static i think maybe the mar-1 is bad but dunno for sure.
i called ramsey tech and they said input vdc to mar-1 should be 1vdc
and output 5volts dc
i dont know what ill do either
ramsey will fix it for 18.00 for 1/2 hr min--- shit man!
that 50.00 should have gone for a used cell en scanner
p.m


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ben McCormick)
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>In article <[e-mail]>, Grant Hopper <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Across the way from where I live, I have a neighbor who every day without
>fail, walks her little dog in her front yard while talking on her
>cordless phone.
>
>What is killing me is: I have (for personal education only) scanned the
>VHF low cordless freq. (all 25). No hits. I then entered the search range
>for the 900 mhz cordless allocation (902 to 928). No hits. Any idea what
>I am doing wrong?
>
>G Hopper
>

Grant,
        These aren't exact frequencies, but can give you an idea of
what bands of cordless frequencies you are NOT to listen to (At least in CA,
from what I understand):

Following is found in the Code of Federal Regulation (CFR)

Part    15.217          160 - 190 kHz
        15.219          510 - 1705 kHz
        15.221          525 - 1705 kHz
        15.223          1.705 - 10 MHz
        15.225          13.553 - 13.567 MHz
        15.227          26.96 - 27.28 MHz
        15.229          40.66 - 40.70 MHz
        15.233          46.60 - 46.98, 49.66 - 50.00 MHz
        15.237          72.0 - 73, 74.6 - 74.8, 75.2 - 76 MHz
        15.239          88-108 MHz  (Note: 250uV@ 3 meters)
        15.241          174-216
        15.243          890-940 MHz
        15.245          902 - 928, 2435 -2465, 5785 - 5815, 10500 - 10500, 24075 - 24175 MHz
        15.247          902 - 928, 2400 - 2483.5, 5725 - 5850 MHz

Maybe, it was a cellular, BTW some trunking handhelds also interconnect to land lines.

        Good Luck,
                        Ben







From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:18 1995
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For all those in the debate as to whether or not litstening in on
radio communications is legal, here's a thought:

It happens. Guard what you say, or get digital encryption equipment to
do it for you. Somebody's listening, whether you like it or not,
whether it's legal or not. Debate all you like. It happens.

I'm not trying to start a war, just playing a little. :)

-Mike
[e-mail]





From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (DJBlu)
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Subject: Need phone # for Javiaton in the UK
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Please please please!!!

Send the phone number to Javiaton in the UK to [e-mail].
Want to purchase Pro-26 with cell.  If you have information pricing or
other sources please include.

Thanks a million!


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:20 1995
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:21 1995
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I have several of the Pro-2026 and love 'em.  I have a R-700 here in the
shack but still use the '2026 to scan with.  They're 100 channel and 12V
(get a $5 adapter for 110V use).  Rat Shack puts them on sale for around
$149.  They list at $229.  I doubt you can find the older models that can
be modified for cellular.  If you do, jump on one.  There were 2 used
ones posted here recently for $150 which is a good buy.  I have one
that's still can still be mod'ed, new in the box, but wouldn't let it go
for less than $225. (They're hard to find)
--


Roy Derryberry, KD3LZ    Member: Aircraft Owners and Pilot's Association
([e-mail])                             American Radio Relay League
                                        Utility Workers Union of America

If I'd known I was gonna live this long, I'd taken better care of myself.




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (DCorwin639)
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Subject: Newbie Needs Yagi Help
Date: 20 Oct 1995 07:11:21 -0400
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Newbie Needs Yagi Help

I recently attempted the construction of a 3 element Yagi antenna in the 6
meter band.  I constructed the antenna with the intent of receiving only.
The result of my endeavor is only slightly better than the Radio Shack all
band ground plane antenna.  The following questions arise:

1. Given that the elements are spaced properly, how important is it that
the elements are parallel?

2. The ARRL Antenna Book indicates that an element with an aluminum
mounting plate should be longer then an element without a mounting plate,
however the Yagis Analysis program returns an element that is shorter with
a 4" x 4" aluminum mounting plate.  What am I missing here.

3. The antenna book doesn't discuss the lengths of the driven element
mounted on a non conducting plate vs. the parasitic elements mounted on
aluminum plates.  I assume the driven element is calculated using the
Yagis Analysis program as if it had a 0" x 0" plate while the parasitic
elements are calculated with 4" x 4" plates and the results are combined.

4. If 75 ohm coax is used for the balum rather then 50 ohm will this
dramatically degrade performance?  If 75 ohm cable is used for the feed
line will this degrade performance?

5. What does the hairpin match do?

6. How does one successfully solder a copper strap to the back of the
SO-239 feed?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

David Corwin
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:23 1995
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Subject: Re: Pager Decoder
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In article <45se8u$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (shatter) writes:
>Paul Hancock ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Wondering if anyone has experienced the same problem I have with the
>: decoder circuit for the POSAG software.  I'm getting +20 VDC from the
>: COM port -I've checked the diodes and they're installed correctly.

You should have +10 to +15 and -10 to -15 volts on the amp power pins relative
to ground.  You need both plus and minus voltages to make RS-232 work
correctly.  Make sure pin 7 (DB25) or pin 5 (DB9) of your COM port
connector goes to ground on the circuit.

>: While I can't seem to decode any signals on screen I am getting output
>: from the circuit -confirmed by hooking up a speaker to the op amp
>: output.  I'm wondering if there's anyway to find out if the signals
>: I'm trying to decode are POSAG and not some other format such as
>: superPOSAG.
>
The little symbol next to the time at the top right of the screen will "spin"
when the program sees transitions from the circuit.  It gives you an idea
of when you're getting close to the correct volume setting.  It will spin
regardless of whether or not you're getting valid data...all it needs are
transitions.  You also have to know the baud rate and set it when initiating
the program...it's not changeable within the program, which IMHO, is a
mistake.


>The POCSAG program is very volume sensitive... put the scanner to a pager
>fequency and then put the volume down to zero and slowly adjust the
>volume up until the little spinner starts spinning in the upper right
>hand corner-ish portion of the screen and wait to see if something
>happens... if not then adjust the volume up a little more....
>
>Hope this helps...
>
>Chad

Chad's right...that's the way I do it.  You also need to be sure you
have a nice loud, full-quieting pager signal.  Noisy ones are more
of a hassle.

Ever notice the frequency with which "143", "911" and "69" show up?

Cheers,
Peter

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jules Winfield)
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Subject: pro 23
Date: 20 Oct 1995 04:23:48 GMT
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I just bought a RS pro 23!  Is this a good scanner???  Can I mod it???
What can I do???




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill )
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Subject: PRO 37
Date: 17 Oct 1995 20:47:37 GMT
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I have posted a request for some info on a pro 37, but no response.  Is
this such an outdated model that there are none out there?  I bought
the scanner some time ago and I believe I had it modified.  I would
really appreciate it if someone would answer the following questions.
Excuse my lack of knowledge.

1.  How do I tell if my scanner has been modified?
2.  Is this still a fair scanner for occasional use?
3.  The "limit", arrow up and arrow down keys work, but need to be
really pushed hard to make respond.  Is there anything I can do about
this?

Thanks very much.               [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Donald Bowlby)
Subject: Pro 43 Technical Questions
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I have a few tecnical questions pertaining to the Pro 43 I hope
someone can answer.
I found that if you have a frequency programmed into the scanner and then
you lock it out via the diode, you can still do a frequency search
using the "direction" search in that frequency range. I was wondering
if you could program in cellular in the EEPROM then remove it and
place it into a scanner with permanent cell block to regain cellular.
Would the memory survive? And if so what must be done to protect the
chip from static?
Also can this scanner be modified for comercial bands?
Was this CPU designed to be used in something else such as a different
scanner?
The following pins on the CPU are listed as NC in the service manual
yet are allocated to a port or function in the IC block diagram for
the CPU or are connected.What could their true function be?
Pin 56 or 57 is part of the system clock generator sub system ("XT2").
Pin 29 is allocated to port 4, part of the band output switching.
Pins14,15 and 16 are allocated to memory and LCD control. Could this
possibly be a way to expand the scanners memory even more?


                        Thanks in advance




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Don E. Bowlby
Carleton University
[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clive Parsons)
Subject: Re: Pro 60 Cell Image Randge?
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On 16 Oct 1995, Robert Cooter wrote:

 > And where can i find the speed increase mod for the Pro 26?

26 Speed increase mod? You mean that Auto Frequency Sort Scan, Hyper Mode 300
Steps/Sec./50 Channels/Sec. is too slow for you??? A joke?!?!
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:28 1995
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From: Camelback Juggler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro-2006 And computer int
Date: 19 Oct 1995 01:18:48 GMT
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>:  HB232 computer interface for RS PRO 2004/5/6 pro 43 and anythin else
>: you can adapt it to. It has been avalable prewired or as a kit from:
>
>:  It is now a  "Roll Yer' Own" construction project from the same
>: source. I belive the Book which Gives the details is
>: "Ultimate Scanner" or some such. Avalable from the above source or
>: probably many Ham radio Bookstores.
>
>However, I would suggest the orginal poster consider the Optoelectronics
>unit before making a decision.  In my opinion (and others) it's a better
>bet if you want to dedicate your computer and scanner and add DTMF/PL
>decode as well.  It allows you to scan an unlimited number of channels
>whereas Cheek's kit (which will  take you hours to build) does not
>improve the performance of the scanner in the slightest.  Given the small
>differential in price many have found the opto unit to be more suitable
>to their needs.

Well...I don't know how to break this to you Andrew...But I built an
Interface by following the details in Bill's latest book....The cost was
modest...about $50 Bucks....I also included a DTMF an CTCSS decoder for
another $20 Bucks.....I don't know....Bills design works very well and
guess what?  There are probably quite a few folks that might learn
something about their scanners by building Bill's kit....

Perhaps you should try a different color...Green does not suit you very
well...And learn to to take a joke.....Otay?

                                      L8ter----->CJ




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Oujesky)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro-2006, 6400channel mod, in car antenna?
Date: 21 Oct 1995 00:32:23 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Simon Kay) wrote:

The best discussions and illistrations are in Bill Cheeks's volume 2 and 3.
Volume 2 has the DIP approach and the keyboard memory block controller
circuit.  Volume 3 has the surface mount equivalent.  I have some of the
surface mount memory chips left over.  Asking a reimbursement for my expenses
plus shipping charges - about $3.50 per chip and 75 cents postage for up to
three chips.

Later...




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clive Parsons)
Subject: Re: PRO-26 (twenty-six) mods wanted!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] (Jim Wayda) wrote:
 > The only cellular mod for the 26 is to return it to Radio Shack and
 > purchase a cell capable 26 from Javiaton in the UK. They will ship it to
 > you and you will pay about the same amount that you paid for your blocked
 > pro-26 from Radio Shack.
 >
 > Jim Wayda
 > Captain, Scanner Price Police
 >
 >
 > In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:
 >
 > > I am still looking for mods for my Radio Shack PRO-26.  Note that
 > > is "twenty-six." I am especially looking for any cellular restoration
 > > mods.

Uh huh-huh huhh-huhuhh-uh (as someone in your .sig might say) ;-)

Funny, I always think of "sixty-nine" when I see the number "26"...

(And the Javiation deal is unbeatable.)

 - cooler
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:31 1995
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Subject: PRO-39, why were they recalled?
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From: [e-mail] (JSNOID)
Date: 16 Oct 95 16:48:43 EST
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I just bought a Realistic PRO-39.  It was the last one they had, and the dealer
said that they were recalled because they recieved something that they
shouldn't.  What is this, and what frequencies? (Is it cellular phones?)
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:31 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-39, why were they recalled?
Date: 20 Oct 1995 19:02:05 -0400
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In article <1995Oct16.164843.1@vaxa>, JSNOID <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I just bought a Realistic PRO-39.  It was the last one they had, and the dealer
>said that they were recalled because they recieved something that they
>shouldn't.  What is this, and what frequencies? (Is it cellular phones?)

Yes. Being of dual-conversion design, the images of cellular frequencies
appear within the tuning range of the receiver.


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clive Parsons)
Subject: Re: Pro-46 Modifications
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[e-mail] (foxcat) wrote:
 >                Tricks for the Uniden-built/RS Pro-26 Scanner
 >
 >                        by SysOp*Jeff Goldman WA1UDB
<snip>

Hey foxcat! There were some 2, 9 codes I didn't know about here! Thanx! Like the
version number one - I'd never have guessed that! Totally excellent. Say thanks
to Jeff for me (any relation to Oscar? ;-))

 - cooler
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:36 1995
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From: Brett Miller - N7OLQ
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Subject: Radio Related Internet Sites
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Radio Resources on the Internet (URL format)

Please send updates and corrections to:
[e-mail]

Last update: 18 OCT 95


World Wide Web  (URLS)
----------------------
http://dice.dac.neu.edu/Homepages/paul/al.html - FAQs, Freqs, Mods
http://www.mcc.ac.uk/OtherPages/AmateurRadio.html
http://w3eax.umd.edu/w3eax.html - University of Maryland ARC
http://www.asc.ncsu.edu/HamRadio/StARS - North Carolina State University ARC
http://macgwy-mac2.gsfc.nasa.gov/garc/wa3nan-home-page.html - Goddard ARC
http://w6yx.stanford.edu/w6yx.html - Stanford ARC
http://hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov/sarex_mainpage.html - Sarex Info
http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~thharrel/scanner/scanner.html - KC5KTO's Radio Page
http://itre.ncsu.edu/radio/ - Shortwave/Radio Catalog (lots of links)
http://www.law.indiana.edu/fclj/fclj.html - Federal Communications Law Journal
http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc/ham-more/ham-more.html
http://bjr.acf.nyu.edu/railinfo/scanning/scanning.html - Railroad Scanning
http://ux1.cso.uiuc.edu/~roma/rr-freqs.html - Railroad Freqs
http://www.mcc.ac.uk/John/SatTrack.html  - Satellite Tracking
http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~fuat/cuarc/www-sites.html - Lot of Links to ARC pages
http://kzsu.stanford.edu/other-radio.html - Links to non-commercial broadcasters
http://www.mit.edu:8001/activities/wmbr/otherstations.html - Radio stns on Internet
http://www.fcc.gov - FCC Web Server
http://www.qrz.com /callbook.html  - Ham Callsign database
http://www.rpi.edu/dept/union/w2sz/www
http://www.access.digex.net/~cps/numbers.html - HF numbers station loggings
http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation - Javiation Page - UK radio dealer
http://usis.com/~odium/  - scanner stuff, hacking, etc.
http://ripco.com:8080/~glr/glr.html - Glen Roberts Full Disclosure
http://www.analysys.co.uk/commslib.htm - many links to comms & telecomms sites
http://shrine.cyber.ad.jp/~jwt/hamradio.html - Nice Ham page, USA, Canada, Japan
http://www4.ncsu.edu/unity/users/jwprice/index.htm
http://p300.cpl.uiuc.edu/~tpeckish/ar8000.html
http://www.okc.com/freq-out - frequency database
http://www.ccnet.com/~rwilkins/ - San Francisco Bay Area Ham Club, the cAVe group
http://www.demon.co.uk/lowe/index.html - Lowe Electronics Home Page
http://home.eznet.net/~dstark/index.html - David Stark's home page (scanner stuff)
http://www.pics.com/trs - TRS Consultants Shortwave Software
http://hamster.business.uwo.ca/~amsoft - AmSoft web site
http://nether.net/~mikel/radio.html - Radio/TV Dial pages
http://metro.turnpike.net/~termcon/radio.html - HTML version of this list
http://www.primenet.com/~keithr/mesafreq.html - Arizona public service freqs
http://www.ultranet.com/~bellvill/radio.html
http://www.msen.com/~lwp/radio.html - HTML verison of this list
http://www.best.com/~sdunham/homepage.html - Sam Dunham's SCAN*STAR Homepage
http://www.raddev.com/biz/raddev/ - Radio Devices homepage
http://www.baycom.de - Bavarian Packet Radio Group (BayCom)
http://www.mutadv.com/kawin - KaWin Homepage (Kantronics Packet Sadio software)
http://www.cts.com/browse/rcsi - ScannerWear Homepage (scanner control software)
http://www.wolfe.net/~kiwa - Kiwa Electronics Homepage
http://comp.uark.edu/~plaws/scan/ - Peter Laws scanning page
http://www.panix.com/clay/scanning/
http://www.ultranet.com/~sstv - Amateur Slow Scan TV
http://www.ci.la.ca.us/department/LAFD/index.html - Los Angeles Fire Dept. (w/Freqs)
http://www.webcom.com/~sjl/HamNet_Companion/ - Scanning, Ham, & CompuServe information
http://www.li.net/~j4dice/scanli.html - Long Island area Scanning + links, FAQs etc.
http://www.mindspring.com/~n4da/top.html - The Radio Doctor -Ham Radio repairs
http://www.swcp.com/~ab5p/foxhunt.html - Transmitter Hunting
http://host.yab.com/~macgyver/scanner.html - Arizona Fire Freqs. and links
http://aloha.nmsu.edu/w5gb - NMSU Amateur Club page, nice list of SWL Schedules
http://www.rsgb.org/rsgb/ - Radio Society of Great Britain
http://user.itl.net/~equinox/ - Nice HAM page in the UK
http://www.tapr.org/ - TAPR (Packet Radio) info
http://www.amsat.org/ - Amateur Satellite info
http://www.sp.nps.navy.mil/gndstn - Satellite Tracking
http://promet12.cineca.it/htdx/swls/bdxc.html - Benelux DX Club
http://www.realm.net/~jpawluk/KB6MMF.html - Amateur TV (ATN club in So. Cal.)]
http://www.halcyon.com/pos.time.sys/top - Positive Time Systems remote control
http://www.primenet.com/~berg - Ham gear trading
http://www.accessnv.com/kenwood/ - Kenwood's home page
http://www.hamradio.com/ - Ham Radio Outlet (HRO) Home Page
http://www.radiocity.com/ - Radio City, radio dealer
http://www.picspc01.pics.com/gilfer/ - Gilfer Shortwave, radio dealer
http://www.www.execpc.com/~aesham/ - Amateur Electronic Supply, radio dealer
http://www.iglou.com/copper/ - Copper Electronics CB Web page
http://www.ee.port.ac.uk/~arrow_l - Nevada Communications
http://www.abaforum.es/is/digigrup/dg3.htm - Digital radio club, Barcelona, Spain.
http://www.raddev.com/biz/raddev/rdprices.htm - Radio Devices page, pricelist
http://www.grove.net - Grove Enterprises, Scanners, receivers, Monitoring Times


FTP  (URLS)
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ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/hamradio/
ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio
ftp://ham.eetech.mcgill.ca/pub/ham-radio
ftp://bubba.business.uwo.ca/mods
ftp://garfield.catt.ncsu.edu/pub/hamradio
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/radio
ftp://ucsd.edu/mailarchives/info-hams - Info Hams Digest archives
ftp://mgate.arrl.org   ARRL FTP site
ftp://ftp.cs.buffalo.edu/pub/ham-radio
ftp://ucsd.edu/hamradio
ftp://unbc.edu/ampr
ftp://tandem.com/hamradio
ftp://nic.funet.fi/pub/ham  and  /pub/dx
ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/ham/mac -  MAC stuff
ftp://grivel.une.edu.au/ham-radio
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/ham-radio  -  Radio FAQs
ftp://ftp.qrz.com/qrz  - QRZ CD-ROM files (no callsign database)
ftp://archive.afit.af.mil/pub/space/amateur.tle  - Keplerian Elements
ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/ro/vhealey/www (use WWW viewer for HTML docs)
ftp://scitsc..wlv.ac.uk/pub/hamradio - UK ham radio stuff, buffalo mirror
ftp://ftp.iea.com/pub/borg/hdn - Ham Distribution Network site
ftp://wb3ffv1.sed.csc.com/ham


E-Mail servers  (URLS)
----------------------
mailto:[e-mail] - get INDEX.TXT
mailto:[e-mail] - Callsign server - no subject, callsign in body
mailto:[e-mail] - Callsign server
mailto:[e-mail] - Frequency lists - put INDEX as subject
mailto:[e-mail] - put help in the message body
mailto:[e-mail]  - All Ohio scanner club.type: GET AOSC INFO
mailto:[e-mail] - editors of CQ, new ham welcome & info pack available
mailto:[e-mail] - editor of Popular Communications
mailto:[e-mail] - CQ Communications corporate office


Gopher  (URLS)
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gopher://gopher.switch.ch /11/misc/faq/faq-dir   FAQs
gopher://hamster.business.uwo.ca (129.100.89.100)
gopher://gopher.cic.net:2000/11/e-serials/archive/general/radio
gopher://scitsc.wlv.ac.uk /11/pub/hamradio
gopher://yfn.ysu.edu /11/public/sigs/ham
gopher://gopher.fcc.gov


USENET  (URLS)
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news:alt.radio.scanner - Above 30 MHz (  rec.radio.scanner)
news:alt.radio.scanner.uk - scanning discussions for the United Kingdom
news:alt.cellular - (I've never seen any cellular related traffic yet)
news:alt.radio.pirate - Pirate radio station topics
news:rec.antiques.radio+phono - Antique radio & phono topics
news:rec.radio.amateur.antenna - Antenna related topics
news:rec.radio.amateur.equipment - Radio equipment discussions (mostly Ham)
news:rec.radio.amateur.misc - Main newsgroup for Ham radio topics
news:rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc - Digital communications (including Packet)
news:rec.radio.amateur.homebrew - Make your own radio equipment
news:rec.radio.amateur.packet - (not used any more?)
news:rec.radio.amateur.policy - Ham radio rules, regulations, policy changes
news:rec.radio.amateur.space - Ham radio & space communications
news:rec.radio.broadcasting - AM & FM broadcasting
news:rec.radio.scanner - Monitoring above 30 MHz
news:rec.radio.shortwave - Monitoring below 30 MHz
news:rec.radio.swap - radio related sales & swap topics
news:rec.radio.cb - Citizens Band Radio topics
news:rec.radio.info - Radio related newsgoup FAQs, reference info, (no discussions)
news:phl.scanner - Scanner topics in the Philadelphia, PA area.
news:uk.radio.amateur - Ham topics in the United Kingdom

MAILING LISTS
--------------
rccons![e-mail]  -Western Pennsylvania scanner mailing list
[e-mail] -Kentucky area scanning
[e-mail] - SCAN-L mailing list send: 'subscribe SCAN-L your_name'
[e-mail] - Ham topics in Spanish. Send:SUSCRIBE RADIO-LISTA



Brett Miller - N7OLQ                    [e-mail]
Intel Corp.                             CIS: 73370,3030
American Fork, UT



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:37 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack PRO-1.3G ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Summary: PRO-26 freq omissions
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In article <4643io$[e-mail]>,
J Lindsay <[e-mail]> wrote:

  >Jeff Goldman ([e-mail]) wrote:
  >: You are wrong- It is continuous from 25 thru 1.3GHz, except for cellular and
  >: Airphone (894-896 AM mode) in the US version
  >************************************************************************
  >     I looked at a couple of stateside -26s. They're missing a lot more.

The PRO-26 (USA) I tested omits some of the trunked frequencies
used by the Illinois State Police, a narrow band of channels
located just below the start of the cell downlink frequencies.

Russell Keating mentioned this and I cited it in my August 1995
Monitoring Times column, "Radio Shack PRO-26 vs.  Uniden/Bearcat
BC3000XLT."

This missing sliver of spectrum is covered by the BC3000XLT and
PRO-60.
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From: Henry Wysmulek <[e-mail]>
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A PREVIOUS POSTED MESSAGE MENTIONED THAT RAMSEY ELECTRONICS
HAD AVAILABLE A DTMF DECODER IN KIT FORM.
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER FOR RAMSEY ELECTRONICS?



H. WYSMULEK
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I just built one. The kit number is TT-7 @ $30. It works fine, with the
exception, that when it decodes the output of the demultiplexer is low
not high and does not latch. So in my case I have to ad more to make it
useable.

 [e-mail] (Randy Rustin) wrote:
>Henry Wysmulek ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: A PREVIOUS POSTED MESSAGE MENTIONED THAT RAMSEY ELECTRONICS
>: HAD AVAILABLE A DTMF DECODER IN KIT FORM.
>: DOES ANYONE HAVE THE ADDRESS OR PHONE NUMBER FOR RAMSEY ELECTRONICS?
>
>
>
>: H. WYSMULEK
>: [e-mail]
>: BLUE SKY FREENET
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>
>Ramsey
>793 Canning Parkway
>Victor, New York 14564-8924
>1-800-4 HOBBY KITS
>(1-800-446-2295)
>
>Later,
>Randy         (R2)
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:40 1995
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I need some help.

I got a PRO-37 that will not recieve. It used to when I sold it . But he told me his sson played
with it.

It will turn on, scan, and all but will not recieve.

If I catch a freq. on my base and program that freq. into the handheld, it will not recieve it...

Any help out there on where to get it fixed and how much...?

Also, what mods are out for this radio?

Thanks!



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survivor ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I need some help.

: I got a PRO-37 that will not recieve. It used to when I sold it . But he told me his sson played
: with it.

: It will turn on, scan, and all but will not recieve.

: If I catch a freq. on my base and program that freq. into the handheld, it will not recieve it...

: Any help out there on where to get it fixed and how much...?

Who knows what was done to it.  It could be something as simple as the
antenna connection being broken.

Bill


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:44 1995
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             REPAIR TIPS: BEARCAT SCANNER RADIOS

       Copyright 1993, 1994, 1995 by Bob Parnass, AJ9S

  [NOTE: This article may not be reproduced in whole  or  in
 part   on   CDROMS,   in   bulletin  boards,  networks,  or
 publications which charge for service without permission of
 the author.  Free distribution is encouraged.]


                        Introduction

 The original  Bearcat  scanner  line  was  manufactured  by
 Electra  Company,  a division of Masco Corp of Indiana.  In
 the mid 1980s, Uniden, a Japanese company, bought  out  the
 Bearcat scanner line and Uniden's first Bearcat scanner was
 the BC800XLT model.

 Most  of  the  models  discussed  in   this   article   are
 base/mobile  units  made  by  Electra  during the 1970s and
 1980s although some of the capacitor failures occur in  the
 Uniden BC800XLT, too.

 Electra stamped all of its scanners  with  a  manufacturing
 date code on the rear of the cabinet. The code is comprised
 of a single character (C = Cumberland, Indiana, P =  Puerto
 Rico),  followed  by four digits denoting year and week the
 radio was built. For example, "P8422" denotes the radio was
 made  in  the  Puerto  Rico factory during the 22nd week of
 1984.


               Schematics and Parts Available

 Some   schematic   diagrams   may    be    obtained    from
 Uniden/Bearcat's   parts   department,   [phone]   or
 [phone].  Uniden currently charges a flat rate of $54
 for  scanner  repairs.  They will repair and return "out of
 warranty" items  without  an  estimate  unless  the  repair
 charges exceed the flat rate charges.  The phone number for
 repair is [phone].

 If  Uniden  doesn't  have  a  schematic,  try  obtaining  a
 Photophacts   from   Howard  Sams  Publishing  division  of
 Prentice-Hall at [phone].

 G & G Communications (telephone [phone]) is a  family
 owned  company  which repairs scanners and stocks parts for
 several  older  models,  especially   Electra/Bearcat   and
 Regency  brands, but they don't sell manuals or schematics.
 They are located at 9247 Glenwood Drive, LeRoy, NY 14482.

 Electronic  Repair  Centers  in  Franklin  Park,   Illinois
 (telephone   [phone])   has   been  repairing  Bearcat
 scanners for several years.  They charge a flat $45  repair
 rate  for  programmable  and  $30 for crystal scanners, and
 shipping is extra.   Electronic  Repair  Centers  will  fix
 Regency scanners if they can obtain the parts.


                     Common Construction

 Most of the classic, metal-cased Bearcat base/mobile models
 were built using two printed circuit boards:

  1.  a "radio board" containing the  synthesizer,  RF,  IF,
      and audio stages, and
  2.  a  "feature  board"  containing   the   microprocessor
      controller  and memory circuitry which gave each model
      its own personality.

 Athough there are various vintage radios boards,  they  all
 have similar circuitry.


                  Bad Solder Joints Common

 Before addressing specific symptoms, circuit boards in  the
 malfunctioning  scanner should be inspected for poor solder
 joints.

 The Electra/Bearcat BC350, BC300,  BC250,  BC220,  BC20/20,
 BC211,  BC210,  and BC210XL models were hand assembled, and
 every one I've serviced had several connections  that  were
 either soldered poorly, or not soldered at all.

 Resoldering joints on the ribbon cable  connecting  the  RF
 and keyboard logic circuit boards in a BC250 attenuated the
 microprocessor/synthesizer hash noise noticeably.

 A Bearcat 20/20 was experiencing periodic loss of memory on
 some, but not all channels.  When the problem occurred, the
 frequencies on some channels would be  completely  changed.
 On other channels, the frequency would still be intact, but
 the channel would be locked out, and the delay toggled from
 "on" to "off".  Some channels were not affected.

 The 2 "AA"  memory  backup  batteries,  and  their  holder,
 tested  good.   Much  time was spent tracing logic, heating
 and cooling components, and making voltage measurements.

 One of the secondary leads from the power  transformer  was
 connected  to the main circuit board through a hole drilled
 through foil traces on both the top and bottom sides of the
 board.   A  close  examination  revealed that this lead had
 been soldered only on the top of the  board  -  the  bottom
 side had never been soldered.

 Soldering the lead on both sides of the  board  solved  the
 memory loss problem.


                   Symptom: Blank Display

 The BC300 scanner, and several other Bearcat models, employ
 a  switching  type  power supply stage to generate plus and
 minus voltages  in  excess  of  20  volts  DC.   When  this
 switcher fails to function, the display goes blank, but the
 squelch control appears to work, and  white  noise  can  be
 heard in the speaker.

 In almost a dozen of the BC300 and BC800XLT  scanners  I've
 fixed,  C98,  a capacitor in series with the primary of the
 switching transformer failed, causing  the  output  of  the
 supply to drop below the level needed to power the display.
 The switching transformer is  mounted  on  the  RF  circuit
 board,  and  is  much,  much  smaller  than  the main power
 transformer,  which  is  usually  fastened  to  the   metal
 chassis.   The  22uF/16V  capacitor  used  for C98 in early
 BC300s was marginal,  and  was  replaced  with  a  47uF/25V
 capacitor in later units.

 I replaced the 22  uF  capacitor  in  the  switching  power
 supply  stage  of  a BC210XL which caused the same symptom.
 Other capacitors in the switcher stage have failed.   C114,
 a  4.7  uF/35V  tantalum  capacitor  failed in at least one
 BC250, causing the display to blank.

 A more sinister problem affects  the  switcher  in  earlier
 models.   The  switching  supply  stage  in  the  BC250 and
 original BC210 is driven by a clock signal derived  from  a
 custom  Exar NC57902 divider integrated circuit (designated
 IC6 in the BC250 scanner).  I've seen this divider IC  fail
 in  several  BC250s,  causing a blank display (except for a
 decimal point in the BC250's rightmost digit).  This custom
 IC is no longer available from Uniden.


            Symptom: Invalid Frequency Displayed

 A common Bearcat 250 malady is  manifested  by  an  invalid
 frequency  displayed  on  the  readout.  This  condition is
 temporarily "cured" by unplugging the AC line cord from the
 wall, then replugging it.  This condition is symptomatic of
 a power supply problem in which Q204, a  Texas  Instruments
 TIP-29 located on the feature circuit board, fails.

 A Philips ECG291 will work as a substitute for the  TIP-29.
 Don't  try a Radio Shack substitute, it hasn't worked.  See
 Martin Toomajian's article, "Bearcat  250  Erratic  Display
 Cure", in January 1987 Monitoring Times.

 A similar  problem  in  the  Bearcat  20/20  was  discussed
 previously in the section on bad solder joints.


        Symptom: Squelch Won't Eliminate White Noise

 Most Uniden/Bearcat base/mobile scanners  feature  an  AUTO
 squelch  position,  actuated  by  rotating the squelch knob
 fully  counter  clockwise.   The  BC350  used  a   separate
 pushbutton  switch  for this purpose.  These scanners use a
 flimsy potentiometer (designated R81 in BC300s)  internally
 mounted on the RF circuit board, to set the level of signal
 required to open the squelch when  in  the  AUTO  position.
 This  pot  also  has an effect on the squelch action in the
 non-AUTO mode, and determines at which  point  the  squelch
 knob must be positioned in order to silence the radio.

 Although the potentiometer  is  adjusted  at  the  factory,
 changes  in component values due to aging often necessitate
 readjustment of this internal pot.  Misadjustment  of  this
 pot  has  been  the cause of "no squelch" complaints in two
 BC300s and a BC250 I fixed.

 Another squelch failure is due to a blown  transistor  that
 acts  as  the  electronic switch in the squelch circuit.  I
 replaced this transistor in only one BC300, so I don't know
 if this is a common problem.


              Symptom: Scanner Completely Dead

 In Bearcat scanners using an internal power  supply  (e.g.,
 BC350,   BC250,   etc.),  the  main  power  transformer  is
 connected directly to the AC line.  Since the on/off switch
 is  on the secondary side of the transformer, current flows
 in the primary as long as the AC line cord is plugged  into
 an   active  AC  outlet.   These  transformers  contain  an
 internal circuit breaker,  not  visible  without  unwinding
 (destroying)  the  transformer.   The  internal  breaker is
 known to fail prematurely  in  a  batch  of  Bearcat  power
 transformers.

 If your scanner is completely dead, check  the  primary  of
 this transformer for an open circuit condition.


                  Symptom: Keyboard Bounce

 After  much  use,  the  Chromerics  keyboards  in   Bearcat
 scanners  start  to wear out.  The first sign of trouble is
 usually keyboard bounce on the most  frequently  used  key,
 e.g.,  the  MANUAL  key.  Replacement keyboards are usually
 available from UNIDEN, but replacement requires  dexterity,
 as  one must take care not to tear the flat, flexible strip
 connecting the keyboard to the logic board.


          Symptom: Keyboard Completely Unresponsive

 The keyboard matrix is  "scanned"  by  the  microprocessor.
 Another problem is when none of the keys seems to function;
 the  receiver  just  keeps  scanning  in   spite   of   key
 depressions.   I  found this condition in a BC210XL scanner
 owned by a heavy smoker.  Perhaps  nicotine  smoke  was  to
 blame, as the resistance between two input port pins on the
 microprocessor was down to about  1000  ohms,  fooling  the
 microprocessor  into  believing that a key was stuck in the
 "down" position.  Scraping the circuit  board  between  the
 two pins with an X-Acto knife fixed the problem.


                       Other Problems

 Complaints of low audio output and occasional  microphonics
 in three Uniden/Bearcat 800XLTs were caused by a bad 47 ufd
 electrolytic  capacitor  in  series  between  the  external
 speaker jack and audio amplifier.

 Andy  Domonkos  reports  he  often  uses  a  tape  recorder
 connected  to a Uniden/Bearcat BC890XLT.  RL-1, the carrier
 activated relay inside the BC890XLT wore out.   Andy  found
 the identical relay sold at Radio Shack (part #275-232) and
 says the BC9000XLT uses the same relay, too.
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Copyright 1995, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                              [e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JOHN READ)
Subject: SALE: PRO-2004
Reply-To: [e-mail] (JOHN READ)
Organization: The File Bank BBS - Fallbrook, CA  619-728-7307 (data)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 14:10:00 GMT
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My friend asked me to post this for him.  Please call him directly or
E-mail me at:  [e-mail]       Thanks.


Pro-2004 scanner with all the mods, am-fm coverage from 25 Mhz to 1300 Mhz
continuous.  300 memory channels and 5 random frequency band scans.  Comes
with manual and cigarete lighter cord for mobile use.  Also included is a
Diamond Discone Antenna wide coverage antenna.  Asking $300.
Larry KN6IQ  [phone]

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:46 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brad Herring)
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Subject: San Diego Freqs. wanted
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 15:51:15 GMT
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Hello everbody,
     I just moved to the San Diego area and was wondering
what are the active police,fire,etc.... freqs.  I would also
like to know if the police or fire are useing the freqs. above
830Mhz to 860Mhz range. Any informaiton will be greatly
appreicated!!!!

e-mail to [e-mail]


THANKS IN ADVANCE
Brad



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:47 1995
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From: Danie Brynard <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Scanner with spectrum analyser features needed
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Is there any scanner available that can be used as a limited
spectrum analyser ? Perhaps connecting it to a ossilloscope or PC
for display ?

Danie ZS6AWK




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:48 1995
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Subject: Re: Scanner with spectrum analyser features needed
Date: 18 Oct 1995 16:52:45 GMT
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>Is there any scanner available that can be used as a limited
>spectrum analyser ? Perhaps connecting it to a ossilloscope or PC
>for display ?
>
>Danie ZS6AWK
>
Sure...Grove offers a "spectrum display unit" for about $500 that will
connect directly to the 10.7MHz IF output from a scanner like the ICOM
R7000 or similar.  It requires some kind of TV monitor to display the
spectrum sweep.




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Timothy M. Jackson)
Subject: Suggestions for an AIR scanner
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I currently have one of the Radio Shack Pro-XX portable scanners, but am
looking for an air-only (108-136 MHz, including VOR rx capabilities) that
is a better receiver of the 118-136 freq's...anyone hae any suggestions
for some good models?  Tx capability not required!

Thx,

Tim
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:50 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike McCarty)
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on radio privacy
Date: 17 Oct 1995 23:59:45 GMT
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In article <45ueer$[e-mail]>, D Stark  <[e-mail]> wrote:

When I first started reading this, I thought I agreed with you. But
then I realized that you did not understand the meaning of the word
"broadcast", and began to disagree. The term "broadcast" means to use
one-way transmission intended for general reception. TV Transmission
stations, and Commercial Radio stations broadcast. The transmissions
between portable telephones and the base stations are not broadcast.

)[e-mail] (Robert I Sinclair ) wrote:
)

[stuff gone]

)>Who is the rightful owner of a braodcasted private communication?
)
)   "Broadcasted [sic] private" is an oxymoron.  Nothing
)that has been broadcast can be private, by definition.

true

)>Should it be considered acceptable (legally, socially, morally)for
)>purported private communications to be intercepted by parties that are
)>not the intended recipient?
)
)   Depends on how you define "private".  If it is sent
)unscrambled over analog radio frequencies, then it has been
) "broadcast" and is not capable of being "private" (see
)above).

false

Mike

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Subject: Re: Thoughts on radio privacy
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[e-mail] (Mike McCarty) wrote:
>In article <45ueer$[e-mail]>, D Stark  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>When I first started reading this, I thought I agreed with you. But
>then I realized that you did not understand the meaning of the word
>"broadcast", and began to disagree. The term "broadcast" means to use
>one-way transmission intended for general reception. TV Transmission
>stations, and Commercial Radio stations broadcast. The transmissions
>between portable telephones and the base stations are not broadcast.

   I don't think I'm the one who misunderstands the word
"broadcast".

   According to The American Heritage Dictionary, the word
"broadcast" means:

"1. To transmit by radio or television.
2. To make known over a wide area.
3. To sow over a wide area; scatter."

  This is what happens with ANY radio signal, not just
commercial TV and "broadcast" radio stations.  When you use
a two-way radio, you are "broadcasting" in the strictest
sense of the term.

  Therefore, I stand by my contention that an unencrypted
radio signal cannot be "private" because it has been
"broadcast" by radio.

73 de Dave, NF2G




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In article <466vc0$[e-mail]>, D Stark  <[e-mail]> wrote:

)   According to The American Heritage Dictionary, the word
)"broadcast" means:
)
)"1. To transmit by radio or television.
)2. To make known over a wide area.
)3. To sow over a wide area; scatter."
)
)  This is what happens with ANY radio signal, not just
)commercial TV and "broadcast" radio stations.  When you use
)a two-way radio, you are "broadcasting" in the strictest
)sense of the term.
)
)  Therefore, I stand by my contention that an unencrypted
)radio signal cannot be "private" because it has been
)"broadcast" by radio.
)
)73 de Dave, NF2G

So broadcast means to cast seeds. What has that got to do with this
discussion?

I am not the one who does not understand the meaning of the word
"broadcast" when used in a legal sense in reference to radio
transmissions, you are.

If you are going to use a technical word, then you need to use the
technical definition. And the FCC defines it to be an intentionally
one-way transmission. So when talking about what transmissions may be
intercepted, recorded, repeated to others, etc, this is the ONLY
definition.

The reason this is an important point is not so some ego can bloat. We
have enough of this already. It is important because there are FCC
publications which say things about broadcast transmissions, and
broadcasts, which might lead someone to think that it is legal to
listen to many kinds of radio transmissions which it is illegal to
intercept, based on an uninformed belief that all transmissions are
broadcasts.

Ham radio operators are PROHIBITED from broadcasting. Some ham please
confirm this so I won't have to listen to more ill-informed persons
complaining about this.

Oh, and Mr. Stark, please get a copy of CFR 47 and read it. Your library
probably has a copy.

Mike
----
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I don't speak for DSC.         <- They make me say that.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:53 1995
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From: Bill Hammon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radios
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Andrew Cogswell wrote:
>
> Talking about trunked systems, I regularly listen to a trunked system here and have run into a
> problem. Quite often when listening, I start getting channels making all kinds of squelching and
> beeping, but none of those channels are the control channel.. usually ends up being like 2
> channels at once and lasts maybe 10 seconds.. Anyone got any idea what this might be?

The trunked system here in Arlington Texas has something like this on it.  I
think it is there for no other purpose than to annoy people who are scanning.
--
Bill Hammon
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:54 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Lyn R. Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Trunked Radios
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In article <[e-mail]>, Bill Hammon  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Andrew Cogswell wrote:
>>
>> Talking about trunked systems, I regularly listen to a trunked system here and have run into a
>> problem. Quite often when listening, I start getting channels making all kinds of squelching and
>> beeping, but none of those channels are the control channel.. usually ends up being like 2
>> channels at once and lasts maybe 10 seconds.. Anyone got any idea what this might be?
>
>The trunked system here in Arlington Texas has something like this on it.  I
>think it is there for no other purpose than to annoy people who are scanning.

Arlington has at least one logical channel with a data link on it. Probably
water dep't stuff.

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:56 1995
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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: Trunked Radios
Date: 20 Oct 1995 18:53:58 GMT
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>> Talking about trunked systems, I regularly listen to a trunked system here and have run into a
>> problem. Quite often when listening, I start getting channels making all kinds of squelching and
>> beeping, but none of those channels are the control channel.. usually ends up being like 2
>> channels at once and lasts maybe 10 seconds.. Anyone got any idea what this might be?
>
>The trunked system here in Arlington Texas has something like this on it.  I
>think it is there for no other purpose than to annoy people who are scanning.

Several cities in the DFW area, and around the country for that matter,
put data on their trunked system (usually relatively low volume
applications).  When a data device (say a device to send in river flows
or any other information) wants to transmit it "keys up" the radio just
much as a human would key up--except with a solenoid...then it sends its
data.

In addition, of course, many police departments use encryption on some of
their groups and this will sound like noise.  Encryption can be turned on
and off for individual groups so some groups will be in the clear and
others can be scrambled.  Most agencies minimize the use of the
encryption since it degrades the performance somewhat.



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:57 1995
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From: Steve Blackmore <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: UK-Police
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 21:19:08 GMT
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In article: <4608lm$[e-mail]>  [e-mail] writes:
>
> Hi there,
> last year we were involved in a car-accident in Scotland. As the police
> arrived at the scene of the accident I asked several officers, if the man who
> caused the accident was insured. At that moment nobody could/would tell me
> if that person was insured. Now I was wondering, if the UK-Police has't got
> the possibility to check licenceplate and insurance of a car over the radio.

No they can't really - the licence plate only tells them (via radio & the
Police computer) who the car is registered to and the make, model and colour.

In the UK you don't have to carry your documents i.e driving licence &
insurance certificate. You get 7 days to produce them at a Police station.
Failure to produce is an offence, as is having no licence or insurance.

> In my country (The netherlands) you can offen hear policemen check if there's
> an insurance available for the car, if the person who's driving has a
> drivers' licence and if the APK (which is a check a car needs every year) is
> O.K.
> Well, after a few weeks, they told us that the driver that caused the
> accident had no drivers' licence and no insurance. So it could be that this
> was the reason

You should get your insurance company to sue the driver although the
chances of getting any money/compensation are low.
(He MAY be in prison - depends on the Judge etc)

--
Steve Blackmore

SAB Computers - On-site Archiving Service & Data Storage
--------------- PC Sales and Maintenance----------------
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clive Parsons)
Subject: Re: Uniden SC 150B
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[e-mail] (Brice D. Hornback) wrote:
 > I'm looking for information regarding the SPORTCAT. Any info would be helpful.

Possibly Javiation UK have something on it? Extensive scanner list at:

 http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/

It's the first place I'd look for any scanner info and offers.

BTW, no luck with Lycos then?

Cheers!

 - Clive.
--


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Uniden SC 150B
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[e-mail] (Brice D. Hornback) wrote:

>I'm looking for information regarding the SPORTCAT. Any info would be helpful.

We bought 10 of them for the company a few weeks ago.  So far results have been
good, considering the price ($170).    Cell phones keep popping up in the 900
MHz range on images though (darn!).



Regards, Bob   [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:27:59 1995
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From: Danie Brynard <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Want Info on Trident Scanner for SA
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Hi

Apparently the new Trident Scanner can be used as a spectrum
analyser with a normal scope. Does anybody know more or know where
I can get more info on this ? May be on Internet or elsewhere ?

Who is selling this radio ?

Thanking You

Danie ZS6AWK




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:28:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Hall)
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Subject: wanted-Marine World of Vallejo freq.
Date: 20 Oct 1995 21:48:05 GMT
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  Does anyone know the freq. of Marine World?..thanks..Jeff


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:28:01 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Its Me)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Wanted: Freqs for U.N. Celebration
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 02:28:52 GMT
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I already know all the police frequencies from the police call book,
but does anyone know any more frequencies that might be useful for
this upcoming U.N. celebration here in NY?




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:28:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Waldemar Kowalski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Which to buy: AR8000 or MVT 7200?
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I currently have an MVT7100 - good rig, would like computer control of
the 8000, but not interested in losing quality of radio. Any really
strong opinions out there? Seems to me the two radios are pretty close
to each other in performance, with slight preference of the ultimate
quality of the 7200. Haven't been able to determined, however, *where*
the 7200 excels, so  I can't decide whether its strong features
outweigh the lack of computer control.

HELP!
thanks!



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:28:02 1995
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From: John Kyrka <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Worcester, MA Freq.'s
Date: 17 Oct 1995 22:46:38 GMT
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[e-mail] (Brian Arsenault) wrote:
>Hi there...
>
>A few months back, the city of Worcester, MA changed there radio
>equipment over to a new trunked system.  I am hoping that someone
>here might have the frequencies for both the police and fire.
>
>Thanks a bunch...

Brian,

I have these frequencies listed as "Worcester Future Operations"
for the GE trunked system which they were considering:

851.4625
851.9125
852.0375
852.3625
854.2125
855.3375
855.4875
855.7125
855.7375
855.9625
855.9875

(let's hope they didn't change their minds...<grin>)

john




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:28:03 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Matthew Zilmer)
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Subject: WTB Uniden MR8100
Date: 20 Oct 1995 14:10:51 -0700
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Summary: WTB Uniden MR8100 Scanner
Keywords: Uniden MR8100 Scanner Receiver multiband

Would prefer a working unit.  Has anyone here
seen one up for sale?  Or do you know of a source
for these radios?

Matt Zilmer
Please e-mail:  [e-mail]

--
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CIS 71151,3236           I/O Products Division
[e-mail]   Western Digital Corp.
[e-mail]        Irvine, CA.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 20 21:28:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (CHIP HENKEL)
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Subject: Your scanner books
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Hey Bill,
    I just ordered your latest scanner mod book last week, and am hoping
to receive it soon.
        I recently purchased a PRO-2006 scanner (already mod'ed for
cellular).  I am looking for more information on other modifications to
this scanner.  I understand your latest book has modifications for this,
but are there significant modifications for this scanner in your earlier
books?  If so, which books and what type of modifications are described?
 I will probably purchase your other books if the mod's described are
mod's that I desire, I just don't want to spend the money needlessly.

        Appreciate your response!

Chip Henkel


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:01 1995
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Try the URL http://hamster.business.uwo.ca/~amsoft  And link to over
400 WWW sites from the Home Page. All Amateur Radio / Communications
related URL's !  This is the Mother of all Ham Radio Link Pages.



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:02 1995
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From: Bill Hammon <[e-mail]>
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I have a Pro 43 for sale.  It is in good condition and works perfectly.  It is
a 1993 model which can be modified (nudge nudge wink wink)
Asking $225 obo.
--
Bill Hammon
[e-mail]
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:03 1995
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From: "Albert L. Perreault, Jr." <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: +15 channels on 46/49 MHz cordless??
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 10:09:06 -0500
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I just noticed that one of the standard 46/49 MHz cordless telephones
(ie. GE 2-9730) there are now 25 channels instead of the standard 10.

Just out of curiosity, what is up with this and does anyone know what the
new freqs are and if they are in the same frequency range?

(Note: this is not the 900 MHz standard/digital type.)


Respectfully,
Albert L. Perreault, Jr.

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:04 1995
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From: White Heat <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: +15 channels on 46/49 MHz cordless??
Date: 22 Oct 1995 20:03:13 GMT
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Sorry i don't have them off hand but the bases are 43-46 Mhz hope
this helped a bit they are posted entirely alot of other places.
        -=White Heat▓=-


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: 2006 backlight burnt out!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <46kfn1$[e-mail]> write:

  >Hopefully someone can help me.
  >
  >I have PRO-2006 that has the backlight (for freq display) burnt out.
  >I hear that this is a fairly common problem.  Can you suggest either a
  >replacement part or a modification to replace the backlight?
  >Please send E-Mail to [e-mail] or reply here.
  > >Thank you, Adam


The backlight in the PRO-2005 and PRO-2006 is done with EL-501,
an electroluminescent panel (RS part #10800050), which grows dim
with use.  Last I checked, a new EL panel can be ordered through
your local Radio Shack store and sent to your home for about $12
plus shipping.

I've the replaced the backlight, an operation which requires care and
patience.
--

==============================================================================
Copyright 1995,  Bob Parnass, AJ9S        AMPS Wireless Development Laboratory
[e-mail] - [phone]           Bell Laboratories


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:06 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jon Stewart)
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Subject: 262.350 & 262.300 NBFM
Date: 22 Oct 95 19:52:23
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W(>Anyone else monitored the traffic on 262.350 and 262.300 (NBFM)?
W(>I first heard friday night and as of tonight (tues) it
W(>was still active.
W(>bill

What was it that you heard on this Freq.

---
 * WR 1.31 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:07 1995
Path: news.epix.net!wmerrell
From: [e-mail] (wfm)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: 262.350 & 262.300 NBFM
Date: 23 Oct 1995 13:54:08 GMT
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Jon Stewart ([e-mail]) wrote:


: W(>Anyone else monitored the traffic on 262.350 and 262.300 (NBFM)?
: W(>I first heard friday night and as of tonight (tues) it
: W(>was still active.
: W(>bill

: What was it that you heard on this Freq.

: ---
:  * WR 1.31 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
3W, 2A, 3T, 2W and many other tatical call sign mostly just
doing radio checks, then sending encrypted traffic followed by
ack the traffic.  Everything lately has been encrypted but
plain traffic lasted almost a week.
bill


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robbo94)
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Subject: RE: ?????QUESTION?????
Date: 23 Oct 1995 07:12:21 -0400
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Another way of detecting close range radio communications, is programming
the mobile transmit frequency, if a repeater system is being used.  Mobile
transmit frequencies are usually low to mid-powered, so a two to three
mile range of reception would be easily achieved.  Pick up a Police Call
frequency guide to find these frequencies.
ROBERT W.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Fogarty)
Subject: an HT from Hong Kong?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Folks,

I'm new on the amateur radio scene and need some advice.  I'll be going
to Hong Kong soon and am interested in shopping for an HT.  What can you
advise me about:

* Brand
* available frequencies
* legalities
* costs

Even if you don't know anything about "export only" HT's or Hong Kong,
I'd appreciate your responses about Brands and costs.  I'm planning to
spend about $400-500 in HK on such a unit.

I've got friends who will guide me through the licensing process and
hook me up with the local Ham groups (Bay Area).  I intend to go legit
and certainly wouldn't want to break any laws by importing something
with extra frequencies ;-)

Imagine, though, that you could pick up anything available in the
$400-500 range.  What would you get?

Thanks,

Mike


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (David Cripps)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.home
Subject: Re: an HT from Hong Kong?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 10:23:42 PST
Organization: Direct Connection (Call 0181 297 2200 for info)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Folks,
>
>I'm new on the amateur radio scene and need some advice.  I'll be going
>to Hong Kong soon and am interested in shopping for an HT.  What can you
>advise me about:

One thing's for sure - you will have a fantastic choice of radios! I felt guiddy
every time I went shopping.

Every shop in Kowloon sells ham equipment, as well as walkmans, dodgy watches,
tee-shirts, sunglasses, you name it, they sell it.

The problem is that there is no such thing as a ham only store (well I didn't find one
in the four months I was there). So expert advice is difficult to get.

There are stories abound of people getting ripped off (especially in electrical shops),
if it's anything to go by I didn't buy anything while I was there - the fantastic cheap
bargins everybody hears about arn't there. The prices seem to be the same as
in the UK (eg the newish Sony SW-100 was about 240 sterling).

Save your self a LOT of hassle and buy local - and start up a friendship with the local
ham store owner - much better in the long term.


PS I use an ICOM IC2SA and an ICOM IC24SAT, both very reliable - long in the tooth but
do everything that the latest all singing HTs do.

My IC2SA has extended TX/RX and even works on marine (156 and up) and Airband RX down to
115MHz.

Good luck in HK, an evening meal in the art-deco cafe on the peak is not to be missed,
book a window table and enjoy the view (fond memories flooding back now).


Dave Cripps G7IDB



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rafael Solis)
Subject: Re: an HT from Hong Kong?
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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In article <46b7s9$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (If you want my name just ask. ) writes:
>
>>to Hong Kong soon and am interested in shopping for an HT.  What can
>you
>>advise me about:
>
>
>I'd save myselft the trouble and buy from a stateside distributor, I've
>heard of guys buying overseas HF gear with features or bands not avail.
>in U.S but I've never heard of any great bargains. What you save by
>shopping Hong Kong may cost you quickly if you have a problem or need
>an accessory for the radio.
>
>I have a Kenwood Dual band HT and like it alot.
>
>73, Tim ka8ddz


I agree with Tim.  I've been to HK several times on business trips and
it is not worth the hassling of dealing with the salesmen over there
(prices are not fixed and you have to deal, yes as in bargaining!).
Also there is the problem of the warranty.  I don't think any of the
major brands (K,I,Y) honor warranties of any equipment bought
overseas.  What I have bought though are accessories.  Bring your AES
catalog to check the price differences.  Some things are cheaper there
but others are around the same or even higher depending on the store.
Another suggestion is to get away from the Nathan Rd. stores, those
are usually overpriced.

Have fun in HK.

Rafael (KE6JSR)






From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Richard J. Lemay)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ANY MODS FOR TH PRO 2027
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 02:07:41 GMT
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Are there any Mods for the RS PRO 2027?

It looks like it could easily tune in the 880 Mhz range but avoids
certain frequencies.

Your comments appreciated.

Richard





From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (RAllen8184)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ANY MODS FOR TH PRO 2027
Date: 26 Oct 1995 22:45:26 -0400
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Hello;

I also have a Pro 2027, and was talking to someone who was using one to
demonstrate a dtmf decoder at a ham swap over the weekend. He said he  was
able to restore cell coverage, by clipping one diode. I would be
interested in this mod, also.

Rich


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (RDsmyrna)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AOR 1000x memory upgrades???
Date: 26 Oct 1995 18:35:05 -0400
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Is there a mod to increase the memory capacity of the AOR 1000x from 1000
to 2000 channels?  Or increase the bank capacity from 10 at 100 channels
to 20 at 50 channels?


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:14 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
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From: [e-mail] (Jerry Gardner)
Subject: AOR8000 For Sale
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
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I have an AOR8000 in mint condition for sale. It has NO GAPS in its
coverage. In original box with all papers and standard accessories.

US$550 OBO.

Contact [e-mail] for details.

--
Jerry Gardner          | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest
[e-mail]    | Send subscription requests to [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Frederick Kelcz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AOR8000 Wandering Birdie
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:35:16 +1000
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I purchased an AOR8000 and am overall quite happy with it.  However, I have
encountered what EEB, the seller, describes as the "wandering birdie".

My scanner stops at one of three freqs 460.575, 460.600 or 460.625 although
no transmission is occuring on the channel.  Unlike the typical birdie,
disconnecting the whip antenna eliminates the birdie.  If fact, simply
touching the base of the antenna, I can "modulate" the signal strength of this
pseudobirdie from 5 bars (not touching) to 3 bars ( two fingers) to
elimination (wrapping hand about base of whip), while NOT affecting signal
strength of valid signals.

Just was curious how many other AR8000 users out there have had this problem.

Fred K.
N9SLR
Frederick Kelcz, PhD, MD
Dept. of Radiology
University of Wisconsin, Madison


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gary Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: BC 200 XLT
Date: 22 Oct 1995 02:53:07 GMT
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>In article
><[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Is there a modification that can be done on this handheld to increase
battery
>> life? The batteries only seem to last one to two hours when fully
charged.

My local electronics store performed a mod that disabled the low batt
feature on my BC200XLT. The batt pack now lasts 12 hours. I don't know
what they did, but recently this subject was on the web and the following
was posted:


Date:     Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:22:35 -0400
From:     Michael Oujesky  [[e-mail]]
Subject:  Re: Bearcat 200 XLT

>> Is there a modification that can be done to extend battery life?


There's a battery-low circuit that has a zener diode that can be replaced.
  No
big deal to do the MOD.





From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:17 1995
Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!jaring.my!genes!wired
From: [e-mail] (Eugene Kang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC 200 XLT
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
References: <46n2em$[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 02:25:24 GMT
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In article <46n2em$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>In article <[e-mail]>, Dave Shaffer <[e-mail]>> says:
>>
>>Interesting experiences you are all having with the batteries.
>>
>>
>
>I have ordered 850mAh replacement battery inserts for the 200XLT.
>Contact E.H. Yost & Co. [phone] about $19.00 ea.

are those AA batteries?



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:18 1995
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From: Ron Ling <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: bc120xlt mods ???
Date: 23 Oct 1995 21:45:21 GMT
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Hi...

I'm looking for any mods for the 100 ch bearcat 120 xlt scanner.

Any replys would be appreciated.

ron




















































From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Pat Quinn)
Subject: BC2500/Bat.
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        Before I spend $30+ dollars on a replacement battery for my
bearcat 2500, does anyone know what the part # (via RS) for the replacement
nicad batteries (there's 5 in the recharge pack) would be?

--



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] ("Barry West")
Subject: Bearcat 220 FB - circuit/info ??
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Compulink Information eXchange
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:57:26 GMT
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Can anyone please provide a circuit diagram of this (ancient) scanner ?
Also info on a mod to allow manual am/fm switching ?

TIA

Barry
In li'l ol' England.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:21 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bearcat 9000 VS. Radio Shack 2035?
Date: 25 Oct 1995 22:03:04 GMT
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In <46hlhq$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Cocp) writes:
>  Anyone have a preferance and why?  I have a Pro 2006 and may upgrade so
>your opinions and comments are welcomed.
>                                                                   Thanks,
>                                                                     Cocp

You should probably check out the March 1995 issue of Monitoring Times from
Grove Publications. They did a review of the new 9000 and compared it against
the 2035 and 2006. You might be able to order a back copy of this issue from
Grove at 1-800-438-8155. This is a great mag for new product reviews and
general info concering scanning. I personally find too much SWL stuff in it but
it's meant to cater to both audiences.

A past review of the 2035 in MT was favorable excpet for the Auto Store
function which repeatedly stores the same frequency. This is the major reason
why the 2035 is being discontinued and replaced by the 2042(?) which will
have this "bug" removed. So I would assume that 2035 prices will drop once
the new 2042 comes out.

I personally tend to prefer the RS line of scanners(whether GRE or Uniden
made) and their features but find the 9000's Auto Store, alpha-numeric tags,
and frequency hit counters very tempting...time will tell...

Rich Wells


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bearcat 9000 VS. Radio Shack 2035?
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:09:28 -0400
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I didn't see the original post, but if the question is aimed at deciding
whether to get the 9000 or 2035, it's worht mentioning that the 2035 has
been discontinued. I've yet to see the 2042, which replaces it, however. I
went into an RS in Watertown, Mass. and saw what I thought was the 2042 on
the shelf with a big "for sale" sign on it. When I looked closer, it was
the 2035. Price? $450! I mentioned to the manager that a lot of other
stores were blowing out that model at $389 or so and he told me flatly
that I was wrong. Au contraire, bud, I said, you should take a look at
your new catalog just for the heck of it. He did, spotted the new model
and said, "Gee I didn't know they had discontinued it." Next, he checked
his computer and as I was walking out the door, yelle out after me, "Sir,
that scanner just went on sale for $389!" I kept on walking...

In article <46kql6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Rodney Skeeter) wrote:

> I OWN A PRO-2035. I LIKE IT VERY MUCH. PROBLEM WITH THE AUTO STORE
> FEATURE. C U LATER    MR.SKEETER

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]
_____________________________________________________________________Coming to a bookstore near you in November:
The Underground Guide to Computer Security, by Michael Alexander;
published by Addison-Wesley Publishing Company.

"He's lost enough data to fill a small black hole."
_____________________________________________________________________


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:23 1995
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From: Joe Farhat <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Best Antenna for a newbie?
Date: 21 Oct 1995 13:39:57 GMT
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Hi Folks...

I just purchased my first reciever (and AR-8000), and I'd like
to get to get either a single, or pair of antennas for home /
mobile listening.  I live in an appartment building, and have
a sporty car, so appearance is important.  I've been told that
Rad-Shacks ground plane antenna (~$50) works real well for a
base antenna, but I haven't seen the size of the thing yet.
Any suggestions, or experiences on the topic would be greatly
appreciated.


                                      Thanks......   Joe Farhat
                                              [e-mail]





From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (SHERMAN SIMPSON)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Blue Angels - Fleet W
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 22:16:00 -0600
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MSGID: 1:106/357.0 30881fb4

REPLY: 1:106/[e-mail] a3fde2f5
Greeting ken,
hmmm I have not searched all of this eco yet for the blue angels freq.
but they are here and will fly for the confederate air show.
sat and sun. we are in Houston, texas.
wish I could come vist your ship. every now and then a  big carrier comes in
to galveston, texas and I live only about 30 min away.
have fun. and have one for me too.
sherman

--- Maximus/2 3.00
 * Origin: Return address: conch.cld9.com (1:106/357)


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Fredman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Boston, MA Freqs???
Date: 24 Oct 1995 23:02:53 -0400
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If anyone has a list of interesting or active freqs for Boston, I would
apperciate it.  I will be there this weekend and need something to
entertain me.  E-mail is possible.  Thanks.
--
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                                                         -Dave Letterman
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:25 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mr.News)
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Subject: Re: CA Prison Freq's Wanted
Date: 23 Oct 1995 08:17:57 GMT
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In article <467la8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>Checking my trusty sources, looks like they're using some 800 MHz
trunked
>frequencies (813.2625, 814.2625, 815.2625) and some VHF (155.7, 155.505,
>155.475). In fact, most of CDC has moved to 800 MHz for their main
>operations.


Yup!

I get Soledad prison on a 3ch trunk system
860.2625 Data (always!)
859.2625
858.2625

This is recieved from over 60 miles away...some days the reception is
better than others.

pretty easy system to monitor!!!

Mr.News



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (RailBaron4)
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California Department of Corrections frequencies for Vacaville
(Correctional Medical Facility/California State Prison - Solano) are as
follows...

Institution trunked system
858.2625
859.2625
860.2625

Transportation Unit/CDC Buses
42.180/42.340 CHP "Blue"

The 800MHz frequencies, with few exceptions, are used at most of the
institutions in the State. 856.2625 and 857.2625 are also assigned to CDC,
however 856.2625 is used by CA Dept. of Justice in Sacramento for Medi-Cal
fraud, and 857.2625 is used in Sacramento by the State radio technicians.

John Maky


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:27 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James Lepphaille)
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Subject: Can modem decode dial ton
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* In a message originally to [e-mail]

To: [e-mail]
Subject: Can modem decode dial ton

>The easiest way to decode a string of DTMF codes is to call up
>your pager and play the tones in as the "message".  Why spend
>$150 or so for a decoder when you probably already are wearing
>one?

All kidding aside, this has got to be the most innovative idea I've heard
of in a long, long time!

My hat is off to you sir.

jim

 * OLX 1.52 * james.lepphaille@1:2002/150  -  Forestville, CA ,USA


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (ROBERT L BURNS)
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Subject: Re: CE-232
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 20:17:07 GMT
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[e-mail] (Andy Moss) wrote:

->However, the
->PRO-2006 doesn't "go mobile" very well anyway (there's no mounting
->bracket and it's kinda big) and I know of nobody who uses one in their
->vehicle.

Andy, it might help your argument if you didn't make erroneous
statements or make generalizations based on your own limited
experience.

1.  Radio Shack sells a mobile mounting bracket for the Pro-2006.  I
do not have the part number handy, but it is, or used to be, available
and I happen to own one.  You have to order it as it's not typically
stocked by the stores.

2.  I don't normally use my Pro-2006 in my vehicle, but I have done so
on special occasions (like the time I had two 2006's and an Icom
IC-R7100 sitting on a table in the back of a Chevy van).  I know of a
handful of users, including an Indiana State Police officer, who have
Pro-2006's permanently mounted in their cars.

->Actually, the Opto unit will make the scanner scan faster.  This is a
->result of the way in which it is engineered - to take charge of the radio.

True, though it is dependent on the computer software used to drive
the radio.

->The DTMF and PL/DPL decoding are BIG pluses to be sure.

Absolutely.

->Cheek's CE-232
->merely "fakes" keystrokes on the keyboard and reads the data dumped to
->the display.  It is still working within the limitations of the basic
->scanner microcode.  It adds no "intelligence" to the radio.

True, but it adds functionality.  The CE-232 can download frequencies
to the radio much faster than a human operator could key them into
memory.  For users who would like to be able to dump a computer file
of frequencies into their Pro-2006 and then operate the scanner
independent of a computer, like for mobile or emergency power
operation, the CE-232 has the Opto 456 beat.

->With the Opto you really don't need the CE-232 and that is my point.

Some users might.  See above.

->The experiences that I've had with Bill Cheek have not been favourable
->either and I would not encourage anyone to deal with him.

OK, fine, so you've had bad experiences with Bill Cheek.  Others,
myself included, have had good experiences with him.

->You decide!

In order to make an imformed decision, one must know all of the facts
and all sides of the story.

Bob...




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jack McGee)
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Subject: Re: CE-232
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:52:20 GMT
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[e-mail] (Andy Moss) wrote:

>Jack McGee ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: Andy, the big Gotcha with the OPTO unit is you have to dedicate your
>: computer to the scanner, or at least multitask it, to use it.
>: HB/CE-232 does not have that requirement.  It does what I want.
>: During heavy snow, or newsworthy events, I can reprogram the scanner
>: in a few minutes, then go back to whatever I was doing on the computer
>: while listening to the scanner.

>Well, with the Opto unit there is no waiting to reprogramme at all.

Certainly.  I didn't say you had to.  I just said you HAVE to have the
computer running the software in order to enjoy those frequencies you
reprogrammed.  It does me no good when I want to use my computer for
something else.  That is the point I was making.

> However, the
>PRO-2006 doesn't "go mobile" very well anyway (there's no mounting
>bracket and it's kinda big) and I know of nobody who uses one in their
>vehicle.

No, but I do take my PRO-34 in my car, and I can program it with the
CE-232.  Can the OPTO program my PRO-34?   Or anyother mobile scanner?
Also, the going mobile is not the only reason to reprogram the
scanner.  BTW, a mounting bracket WAS made for the 2006...

>With the Opto you really don't need the CE-232 and that is my point.

You are wrong.  I cannot dedicate my computer to the OPTO software.
So, I DO need a method to autoprogram the 2006 to be able to listen to
those newfound frequencies without tying up the computer.  If I just
had the OTPO, that would not be possible, would it?


>The experiences that I've had with Bill Cheek have not been favourable
>either and I would not encourage anyone to deal with him.

Well, your experience with Bill Cheek, is merely anecdotal, as is
mine.  I offer mine to counter yours.  He was above board completely
when selling me the CE-232.



>You decide! 8-D

 I did!






From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:31 1995
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From: Mark Bryant <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: CE-232
Date: 26 Oct 1995 12:54:13 GMT
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>Well, with the Opto unit there is no waiting to reprogramme at all.  You
>are correct in that the scanner and computer become one.  However, the
>PRO-2006 doesn't "go mobile" very well anyway (there's no mounting
>bracket and it's kinda big) and I know of nobody who uses one in their
>vehicle.

Really?  I have a stock RS mobile bracket for the 2006, and have had it mobile
for about 6 months.  Plus, it's got the CE-232 installed.  Bring along
a notebook computer, and those long trips can be alot of fun!  Also, I know of
at least 2 deputies with 2006's in their squad cars.

>
>With the Opto you really don't need the CE-232 and that is my point.

Unless you want to program about 6,400 channels.  Then, the Opto unit is
worthless.

>Plus, you'll be up and running with the Opto-456 much sooner than with
>Cheek's "kit" which takes hours to build.

Patience is a virtue.


>
>The experiences that I've had with Bill Cheek have not been favourable
>either and I would not encourage anyone to deal with him.

Moss, you still have a burr up your ass.  Can't you just drop it?

Mark



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Blake Bowers)
Date: 19 Oct 95 08:27:00
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Subject: Re: cell phone clone ques
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 BV> Technically it's still legal to "clone" a phone. As long as it's YOUR
Technically, you're wrong.  The FCC passed rules, back in the fall of last
year, which clearly state that the act of changing the ESN on a phone, is
a violation.  They also state that the use is also a violation.

... Catch the Blue Wave!

---
 * Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] *

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:33 1995
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From: craig todd gafah <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Cellular Scanning
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:40:18 -0500
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Hello everyone,


I was recently testing a cellular capable scanner and I noticed that on most
of the calls from 869-875, both sides of the conversation were able to be
heard.  From 880-890, only ONE side was heard.  From 890-894, both sides
were heard.  The scanner is not modded, it was built with full coverage.
Why is this happening?  Is it just the cell site?  Any feedback would be
appreciated.

NOTE:  MONITORING CELLULAR FREQUENCIES IS ILLEGAL

                                                Craig



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:34 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Keith Beckmann)
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craig todd gafah ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Hello everyone,


: I was recently testing a cellular capable scanner and I noticed that on most
: of the calls from 869-875, both sides of the conversation were able to be
: heard.  From 880-890, only ONE side was heard.  From 890-894, both sides
: were heard.  The scanner is not modded, it was built with full coverage.
: Why is this happening?  Is it just the cell site?  Any feedback would be
: appreciated.

: NOTE:  MONITORING CELLULAR FREQUENCIES IS ILLEGAL
:
:                                               Craig
:

What!!!  You were listening to cell phone conversations???   Don't you
know that's illegal???  I should report you......  blah, blah, blah ;)


Now that I have that over with.  It has more to do with the cell phone
being used on the other end, and the A/B carrier.  Some cell phones carry
the full conversation on there end of it, and some carriers appear to
transmit both side of the conversation on the cell phones recieve
frequency.

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
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Subject: Re: Cellular Scanning
Date: 26 Oct 1995 21:24:33 GMT
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> ... I noticed that on most of the calls from 869-875, both sides of the
> conversation were able to be heard.  From 880-890, only ONE side was heard.
> From 890-894, both sides were heard.

    In most markets, two cellular providers are licensed. The telephone
company uses 880-890 and 891.51-894, while the common carrier license is
assigned 869-879.36 and 890-891.48. It appears that in your area the Telco
is not providing a sidetone, i.e. it doesn't retransmit the mobile half of
the conversation on the base frequency.
                                                            /* barry /&


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:36 1995
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Subject: CELLULAR SCANNING SOFTWARE????
Date: 23 Oct 1995 05:40:55 -0400
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ANYBODY KNOW WHERE I CAN GET CELLULAR SCANNING SOFTWARE THAT I CAN USE
WITH MY COMPUTER AND A SCANNER??
ALSO WHAT IS THE BEST TYPE OF SCANNER TO USE WITH THIS SOFTWARE???
THANXX
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:37 1995
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Try using a cellfone in test mode!



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: CHEEK3 - Ultimate scanner? NOT!
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Blake Bowers ([e-mail]) wrote:

: You know, it is funny just how much you hate Bill.  Enough to spend
: inordinate amounts of time, and pouncing on such trivial bull, just
: to that you can attempt to make your case.

Blake, at 100+wpm typing this stuff in is truly a joy for me. 8-D

: Stupid actually.  I mean, come on Andy.  Let it go!  You hate Bill,
: that is evident, but you just persist, with such garbage!

Well, I will cut back on this as I think that I have made my point now.

If Cheek wasn't so keen on jabbing me one last time every time I would be
more inclined to shut my big mouth! 8-D  He's the one that just has to
keep the fires burning.

: And you know that is all there is, just your pathtic whinings,
: even in your E-Mail to me, where you talk about how you hate him, and
: are "Out to get him".  (If you forgot that, let me know, and I can post
: it back to you.  I saved it)

Yes, I remember that vividly.  But check the message again because I
think you missed the point of that letter - not to mention I've never
used the term "out to get him" EVER.  I think I used the term "Cheek is his
own worst enemy - and I'm his second! <G> " or something to that effect.

: BTW, if they let you back on the FIDO, you would see where a gentleman
: in MN is doing some experiments with TV antennas for scanners, and has
: found so far that they do exhibit gain, much like the ones I used to use,
: before having free access to commercial antennas.

Blake, I'm an engineer with my company and our core business is antennas,
filters, combiners, isolators, etc. etc.  To me, the educational value of
some hobbyist hacking TV antennas and posting unrepeatable "proofs" on a
freebie BBS with no referenced gain claims is nil.

Another thing Blake, I was not "kicked off of Fido" in any way - this is
something that Cheek and the rest of his cronies find hard to accept.
I don't post there any more - but am one of the silent majority, if you will.
Fido's a freebie network that has frugal, non-paying hobbyists as it's
members and backbone.  It is rapidly becoming a less-used secondary road
to the "infobahn".  It's hardly worthy of my time and I wonder why
Cheek even bothers with it.  Well, actually I think I know why but
I won't get into that.

Remarkably, the best Cheek and his bunch can do here is attempt to
dissect my personality.  I posted a review of Cheek's WSR ripoff newsletter and
NOBODY challenged ANY of the MANY points I made.  The fact of the matter
was that it was all TRUE and there is little if anything Cheek could say.
The subscribers have the damn thing in their hands as the evidence.  As
outrageous as some of the things I said were, I didn't make this stuff up!
Cheek was so worried I was going to post it on Fido (which I had never
planned too) he got the sysop at this end all worried with threats of cut
feeds and corrective actions etc!  He's all Mr. Cool in the public areas but
takes on a markedly different personality in private conversation!  8-D

: But let it go!  It is pathetic at this point.

Well, Cheek and others just can't seem to leave my name alone over on
Fido even though i've made no comments in months.  It would appear that
the problem with dropping the whole thing is with Cheek and not me.

I'm willing to put a cork in it for the next little while - and hopefully
longer.

Cheers!

Andy


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Bradley)
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I'm afraid I'm also sick of Andy Moss's whining and insulting tone
on the net. Andy I think by now everybody knows you have
a problem with Bill Cheek. You seem to bash him constantly
and I have yet to see him instigate anything. This whole thing
appears to be very one sided. Fine you have a problem with
him .. but ENOUGH is ENOUGH.

[e-mail] (Andy Moss) wrote:

>Blake Bowers ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: You know, it is funny just how much you hate Bill.  Enough to spend
>: inordinate amounts of time, and pouncing on such trivial bull, just
>: to that you can attempt to make your case.

>Blake, at 100+wpm typing this stuff in is truly a joy for me. 8-D


>: Stupid actually.  I mean, come on Andy.  Let it go!  You hate Bill,
>: that is evident, but you just persist, with such garbage!

>Well, I will cut back on this as I think that I have made my point now.
You certainly have... but it's only about you Andy!

>If Cheek wasn't so keen on jabbing me one last time every time I would be
>more inclined to shut my big mouth! 8-D  He's the one that just has to
>keep the fires burning.



>: And you know that is all there is, just your pathtic whinings,
>: even in your E-Mail to me, where you talk about how you hate him, and
>: are "Out to get him".  (If you forgot that, let me know, and I can post
>: it back to you.  I saved it)

>Yes, I remember that vividly.  But check the message again because I
>think you missed the point of that letter - not to mention I've never
>used the term "out to get him" EVER.  I think I used the term "Cheek is his
>own worst enemy - and I'm his second! <G> " or something to that effect.

>: BTW, if they let you back on the FIDO, you would see where a gentleman
>: in MN is doing some experiments with TV antennas for scanners, and has
>: found so far that they do exhibit gain, much like the ones I used to use,
>: before having free access to commercial antennas.

>Blake, I'm an engineer with my company and our core business is antennas,
>filters, combiners, isolators, etc. etc.  To me, the educational value of
>some hobbyist hacking TV antennas and posting unrepeatable "proofs" on a
>freebie BBS with no referenced gain claims is nil.

>Another thing Blake, I was not "kicked off of Fido" in any way - this is
>something that Cheek and the rest of his cronies find hard to accept.
>I don't post there any more - but am one of the silent majority, if you will.
>Fido's a freebie network that has frugal, non-paying hobbyists as it's
>members and backbone.  It is rapidly becoming a less-used secondary road
>to the "infobahn".  It's hardly worthy of my time and I wonder why
>Cheek even bothers with it.  Well, actually I think I know why but
>I won't get into that.

>Remarkably, the best Cheek and his bunch can do here is attempt to
>dissect my personality.  I posted a review of Cheek's WSR ripoff newsletter and
>NOBODY challenged ANY of the MANY points I made.  The fact of the matter
>was that it was all TRUE and there is little if anything Cheek could say.
>The subscribers have the damn thing in their hands as the evidence.  As
>outrageous as some of the things I said were, I didn't make this stuff up!
>Cheek was so worried I was going to post it on Fido (which I had never
>planned too) he got the sysop at this end all worried with threats of cut
>feeds and corrective actions etc!  He's all Mr. Cool in the public areas but
>takes on a markedly different personality in private conversation!  8-D

>: But let it go!  It is pathetic at this point.

>Well, Cheek and others just can't seem to leave my name alone over on
>Fido even though i've made no comments in months.  It would appear that
>the problem with dropping the whole thing is with Cheek and not me.

>I'm willing to put a cork in it for the next little while - and hopefully
>longer.

>Cheers!

>Andy
>

> --------------------------------------------------------------
> : Come play Realms of Despair! telnet://realms.game.org:4000 :
> --------------------------------------------------------------




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: CHEEK3 - Ultimate scanner? NOT!
Date: 27 Oct 1995 04:20:29 GMT
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>: Stupid actually.  I mean, come on Andy.  Let it go!  You hate Bill,
>: that is evident, but you just persist, with such garbage!
>
>Well, I will cut back on this as I think that I have made my point now.



Being relatively new on here, I missed the "good 'ol days" on FIDO
between these two.  Actually, I find it humorous and entertaining to
watch the "war of words" go back and forth.

Keep it up, Andy.  It puts a smile on my face!


-Drew in Charlotte-



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:42 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Uncle Bob)
Subject: Re: Chicago Police Freq.
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Jim Faulhaber ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Can anyone please tell me what the frequency is when one car says to
: another "switch over".  They only switch over when they are very close
: together.  I know this is two cars talking with each other and not
: going thru dispatch. I listen to 460.150 and have tried 465.150 but I
: get ham radio radio operators. Please advise.

Try 460.525 (Citywide 8) Tactical Car to Car. You also have to be in
range, obviously.

--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

        Uncle [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:43 1995
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From: [e-mail] (James Lepphaille)
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Subject: CHP Reception
Distribution: world
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* In a message originally to [e-mail]

To: [e-mail]
Subject: CHP Reception

>In Sacramento California the CHP just brought on line some new kind of
>radio system in the UHF range. There are three towers with a microwave

I live in Sonoma County, CA and have been listening to the CHP for
years.

For the last month or so I've been hearing "Golden Gate" (42.880 Sonoma
County Orange) on 453.825, loud and clear all over the county and now
it's gone.

At one point I heard a mobile unit trying to talk simplex with Golden
Gate and the mobile referred to "high band" like this, "golden
gate.......ten victor eleven..............golden gate ten victor eleven
on high band........."

I never actually heard Golden Gate reply.

jim

 * OLX 1.52 * james.lepphaille@1:2002/150  -  Forestville, CA ,USA


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mr.News)
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Subject: Re: CHP Reception
Date: 22 Oct 1995 06:10:27 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>
>You are not doing anything wrong. The CHP mobiles are low power, and do
not
>use repeaters.
>Jim Wayda
>Captain, Scanner Price Police.


The average CHP mobile kicks out about 100 watts...hardly low power by
public safety radio standards.

And yes the CHP uses Mobile repeaters/extenders on 154.905

This is good for a few miles and a good alternative for those without
good lowband antennas.

Sorry Jim...you have been busted down to Lieutenant for one week. Go back
two baby steps.



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:45 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jim Wayda)
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Subject: Re: CHP Reception
Date: 22 Oct 1995 07:02:16 GMT
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The CHP does NOT use repeaters. You are referring to the low power mobile
repeaters, but this should not be confused with a base station repeater.
If you have ever done any ham radio simplex communication on two meters or
six meters, you would know that transmission range is limited to about 5
or six miles (mobile to mobile). The can be improved by installing
antennas high ontop of mountains.
Actual performance with a base station antenna will be directly related to
the height of the antenna.

Jim Wayda
Chief, Scanner Price Police




In article <46cn8j$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Mr.News) wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail] says...
> >
> >
> >You are not doing anything wrong. The CHP mobiles are low power, and do
> not
> >use repeaters.
> >Jim Wayda
> >Captain, Scanner Price Police.
>
>
> The average CHP mobile kicks out about 100 watts...hardly low power by
> public safety radio standards.
>
> And yes the CHP uses Mobile repeaters/extenders on 154.905
>
> This is good for a few miles and a good alternative for those without
> good lowband antennas.
>
> Sorry Jim...you have been busted down to Lieutenant for one week. Go back
> two baby steps.

+-jim
[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:47 1995
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Subject: CHP Reception
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 95 23:30:03 PST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA
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JW>You are not doing anything wrong. The CHP mobiles are low power, and do not
JW>use repeaters. CHP Base antennas are typically located thousands of feet
JW>above sea level on mountain tops, and therefore can receive the low power
JW>mobile transmissions. Unfortunately this is the way it is. I have heard a
JW>rumor in this newsgroup that the CHP will go to repeaters, but I think
JW>that it is only a rumor.

JW>Jim Wayda
JW>Captain, Scanner Price Police.



JW>In article <466du3$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Roger
JW>W. Taylor Jr. ) wrote:

JW>>     I have all the CHP frequencies loaded into my scanner.  I live
JW>> in Fresno, CA.  I live about 2 miles from Freeway 99.  I have used
JW>> my antenna on the roof of my 2-story house.  I have used a R/S
JW>> magnetic mount antenna.  I have also used a telescoping antenna I
JW>> also purchased from R/S.
JW>>
JW>>     My problem is poor reception.  I receive the Fresno Base very
JW>> well, but the mobiles seldom are received.  Yesterday I drove from
JW>> Fresno to Sacramento with my scanner on all the way.  I received
JW>> the Base stations along the way but only received a couple mobiles,
JW>> and they were so weak I couldn't understand what they were saying.
JW>>
JW>>     If anyone knows what I am doing wrong or if you have any
JW>> suggestions, I would really appreciate it.  Thanks

JW>+-jim

<cool beavis and butthead tagline deleted for space>

chp mobiles are EXTREMELY difficult to receive unless all your gear is
at peak performance levels.  this is very difficult to acheive and it
often makes your equipment somewhat limited in other radio bands.  if
mobile, the best thing to use for an antenna is a full length 9-ft cb
whip or similar 1/4 wave whip cut to the frequency range (42MHz).  if at
home, try using a 1/4 wave or better GROUNDPLANE cb base antenna (sorry,
 no telescoping antenna or magnet mount job on a rain gutter is ever
gonna cut it with the chp mobiles.)

as far as the chp mobiles being low power, this is not true.  the
mobiles are typically 100 watts.  the only units that use less rf out ar
e the motorcycle units, which average around 25 watts.  funny thing is,
i often end up hearing them better than the mobiles.  hmmm.....

grefg
kd6ven


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:48 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Compusa307)
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Subject: Re: CHP Reception
Date: 24 Oct 1995 02:29:40 -0400
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>chp mobiles are EXTREMELY difficult to receive unless all your gear is
>at peak performance levels.  this is very difficult to acheive and it
>often makes your equipment somewhat limited in other radio bands.  if
>mobile, the best thing to use for an antenna is a full length 9-ft cb
>whip or similar 1/4 wave whip cut to the frequency range (42MHz).  if at
>home, try using a 1/4 wave or better GROUNDPLANE cb base antenna (sorry,
> no telescoping antenna or magnet mount job on a rain gutter is ever
>gonna cut it with the chp mobiles.)

Here in San Diego County, monitoring CHP mobiles was next to impossible
unless I was receiving the mobile extender. The extenders are VHF High
band, but are only on the the CHIP is out of the car and using a H/T. On
day I was looking in the antenna section of the local RS. I saw a 5/8 wave
base loaded "All Terrain" CB antenna on sale ($19.99). I took one home,
cut 6 inches off the  the whip and mounted it on top of my roof-top
discone antenna. I now receive the CHP cars over 10 miles away. Steve in
Escondido, CA


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (WATERGATE1)
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Subject: Re: CHP Reception
Date: 26 Oct 1995 14:10:42 -0400
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Actually California DID have State Police.  I do believe the State Police
was "absorbed" by the Highway Patrol within the last few months (or is
scheduled to be very soon).

Just a point of clarification.

Regards,
DOUG


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:50 1995
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Subject: CHP Reception
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
From: [e-mail]
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JA>* In a message originally to [e-mail]

JA>To: [e-mail]
JA>Subject: CHP Reception

JA>>In Sacramento California the CHP just brought on line some new kind of
JA>>radio system in the UHF range. There are three towers with a microwave

JA>I live in Sonoma County, CA and have been listening to the CHP for
ars.

JA>For the last month or so I've been hearing "Golden Gate" (42.880 Sonoma
JA>County Orange) on 453.825, loud and clear all over the county and now
JA>it's gone.

JA>At one point I heard a mobile unit trying to talk simplex with Golden
JA>Gate and the mobile referred to "high band" like this, "golden
JA>gate.......ten victor eleven..............golden gate ten victor eleven
JA>on high band........."

JA>I never actually heard Golden Gate reply.

JA>jim

JA> * OLX 1.52 * james.lepphaille@1:2002/150  -  Forestville, CA ,USA

acutally, what you're hearing is what the state recently did for the
state police (yes, CA >does< have state police!).  i believe they got
rid of some of the old state police dispatching facilities in the bay
area and now dispatch the state police officers near the waterfront
areas through the golden gate chp setup.  453.825 is linked, (now at low
power, which is why the great reception you were hearing is gone!),
through a low power repeater near the waterfront areas and customs
offices and vicinity in san francisco.  you can still monitor all the
traffic on 453.825 if you're up in the city.  i'm not sure what all the
reasoning behind all this was, but this is what has been happening...

greg
kd6ven


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:51 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bill J. Moulton )
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Subject: Coax. question
Date: 23 Oct 1995 02:46:28 GMT
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I heard about some new 50 ohm Coax that is very thin and low loss. I
heard it is used for cell phones. Does anybody know to get some ?


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Cogswell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Computer interface for PRO-39?
Date: 26 Oct 1995 20:39:45 GMT
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Is there a computer interface available for the PRO-39? If so, does anyone
know any place in the DC metro area that does that kind of work?

Also, what's a good base (200 channels) with a computer interface?




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:53 1995
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From: Matthew R Brummer <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Computer interface for PRO-43??
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 Questions:
        1) What can functions can they perform?
        2) Who makes 'em and for how much?
        3) Good/Bad/Ugly personal experience with any of them?

Thanx...

--> Matt

[e-mail]




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:54 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Laska)
Subject: Re: Computer interface for PRO-43??
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Matthew R Brummer ([e-mail]) wrote:

:  Questions:
:       1) What can functions can they perform?
:       2) Who makes 'em and for how much?
:       3) Good/Bad/Ugly personal experience with any of them?

: Thanx...

: --> Matt

: [e-mail]



How can one have computer interafce without an interface. Am I missing
something?

Andrew



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From: Matthew R Brummer <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Computer interface for PRO-43??
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 14:00:57 -0500
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On Sun, 22 Oct 1995, Andrew Laska wrote:
> How can one have computer interafce without an interface. Am I missing
> something?
>
> Andrew

Someone mentioned an interface that Bill Cheeks made for the PRO-43 a few
months back (before I had a 43).  I would assume it's somewhat of a
hack-job to connect one, but it has at least been mentioned here before.

Still looking for comments... --> MattB

[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:56 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jack McGee)
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Subject: Re: Computer interface for PRO-43??
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:26:49 GMT
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Matthew R Brummer <[e-mail]> wrote:



>Someone mentioned an interface that Bill Cheeks made for the PRO-43 a few
>months back (before I had a 43).  I would assume it's somewhat of a
>hack-job to connect one, but it has at least been mentioned here before.

There are no interfaces that I am aware of that will get data FROM the
PRO-43.  There are at least a couple that will send data (simulate
keypresses) to the PRO-43.  This is useful for programming the scanner
when you go on trips, for example.

Bill Cheek's CE-232 will control the PRO-43.   But unless you have a
200X scanner also you can put it to work on, it's kind of an expensive
solution for just programming the PRO-43.  Someone else makes a
simpler interface, for under $100, I think.  I don't know who, though.


And I have heard of folks that have written programs that use the PC
printer port to run the scanner.




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (F. Barry Mulligan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cordless phone Freq.
Date: 26 Oct 1995 00:20:01 GMT
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> I was told that there are additional cordless phone frequencies ....


From the  FAF - Frequently Asked Frequencies
      on  ftp://oak.oakland.edu
      as  /pub/hamradio/docs/misc/scanner.faf


Cordless Telephone                                          [15.233]

       Chan  Base    Handset           Chan    Base    Handset

         1   43.72    48.76            16      46.61    49.67
         2   43.74    48.84            17  B   46.63    49.845
         3   43.82    48.86            18  C   46.67    49.86
         4   43.84    48.92            19      46.71    49.77
         5   43.92    49.02            20  D   46.73    49.875
         6   43.96    49.08            21  A   46.77    49.83
         7   44.12    49.10            22  E   46.83    49.89
         8   44.16    49.16            23      46.87    49.93
         9   44.18    49.20            24      46.93    49.99
        10   44.20    49.24            25      46.97    49.97
        11   44.32    49.28
        12   44.36    49.36          Chs A - E handset frequencies
        13   44.40    49.40          are also used for baby room
        14   44.46    49.46          monitors and low power
        15   44.48    49.50          handie-talkies.

        Effective 05 June 95, an additional 15 channels are
    authorized and the original 10 channels are renumbered 16-25.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:57 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: DISNEYWORLD FREQ'S
Sender: [e-mail]
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I need the Disneyworld freq's for fire  ems operations


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:58 1995
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From: Henry Wysmulek <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: dtmf decoder from sound blaster
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 23:21:10 -0500
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Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.scanner:39890 alt.radio.scanner:24811

looking in vsl under dos, decoder, dtmf  i found
dtmf_rt2.zip.

H. WYSMULEK
[e-mail]
BLUE SKY FREENET



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:44:59 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Drew)
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Subject: Re: dtmf decoder from sound blaster
Date: 24 Oct 1995 10:03:02 GMT
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I found the file dtmf_sb.zip at 3 sites doing an ARCHIE search.

If you point your WEB Browser to the following URL:

http://www.pvv.unit.no/archie

and then search for dtmf_sb.zip, you should get about 3 good hits.

Drew


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (RS2006)
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Subject: Re: dtmf decoder from sound blaster
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 You can also cll Grove BBS. It has a file named dtmf100.zip that will
also work. E-MAIL me if you need the number.
                                                 [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:00 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: DTMF Scanner for Mac
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:52:43 GMT
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Is there such an application for a Macintosh? Thanks for any info.




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:02 1995
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From: "Kenneth R. Fowler" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: EF Johnson Trunking Systems
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 14:54:38 -0400
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 I know that Motorola Systems have a specific data channel. I am trying
to monitor my local Government trunk system which is an EF johnson
system.  Do these systems have data channels or how is the trunking data
processed?

Ken RCMA VA-169


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:02 1995
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From: dhowland <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FCC Guide needed
Date: 26 Oct 1995 01:01:14 GMT
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I heard recently of an FCC on line guide for public service freqs.
Anyone alse heard of such a thing, if so whats the address???



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:03 1995
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From: Steve Lee <[e-mail]>
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Date: 26 Oct 1995 04:30:26 GMT
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Is there an easy way to fix the LC display on my
RS scanner?  It's cracked and very hard to read.

Thanks
Lee



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:04 1995
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Subject: Re: For Sale  PRO-43  PRO-2004
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How much are you asking for the 2004??
                                       john



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From: [e-mail] (Nickstir)
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Subject: Re: For Sale: AR8000
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This has been sold, Thanks for your interest.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] (BILL WATTS)
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Subject: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 11:32:00 -0800
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-=> Quoting *sunbird* to All <=-

 *s> Michael Bender wrote:

 >         **************************************************************
 >                 The following post is satire. It is meant to be
 >                 funny and to satarize an all-to-common occurance

 *s> maybe that should be satyrize??
      I think he meant phoney and too satyrize an all-2-common occurants.


... Ask questions. That's how you learn. Just be careful who you ask. ;-)

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:06 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Drost)
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE ************ CLICK HERE *************************************************
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Michael Bender (bender@doemain) wrote:
: FrΘdΘric ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, PLEASE ?

: Thank you everyone for participating in this USENET intellegence
: determination experiment.  We are now concluding the experiment. In case you
: are wondering, there is no "FREECALLS WORLDWIDE" product or service being
: offered here; we placed this seemingly-geniune advertisement to many USENET
: newsgroups just to determine how many gullible, greedy, dishonest and
: technically illiterate people read the alt groups. The results are what we
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^ ????????
: expected - over 85% of the USENET population that reads the alt groups AND
: that responds to these types of advertisements are annoying little sniveling
: bastards who are out to make a quick buck at someone else's expense, or who
: would happily buy shares in the Golden Gate Bridge if they were offered for
: a low enough price. Further, almost 98% of the people that responded to this
: advertisement with a "me too" post have never contributed anything of
: substance to any USENET newsgroup within the past seven years (which is how
: far back our records of all posts made to all USENET groups all over the
: world go).

: Thankyou once again for participating in this most illuminating experiment.
: If you were one of the "me too" posters may I suggest that you trade your
: computer in for a television set? You'll be much happier.

: Zand Frankton, Ph.D.
: Human/Computer Researcher
: Department of Aterial Thrombosis
: University of New West Covington
: Specksford, UK
: Tel: [phone]

Judas Priest, who does this asswipe think he is, anyway?



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From: bender@doemain (Michael Bender)
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Steve Drost ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Michael Bender (bender@doemain) wrote:
: : FrΘdΘric ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : : COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, PLEASE ?

: : Thank you everyone for participating in this USENET intellegence
: : determination experiment. [...]

: Judas Priest, who does this asswipe think he is, anyway?

Obviously someone with a better sense of humor than you.

mike

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:09 1995
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From: [e-mail] (MVTelCARD)
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE ************ CLICK HERE *************************************************
Date: 23 Oct 1995 17:10:54 -0400
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I would agree with you on most of your observations. However, you seem to
have some trouble yourself:

1. intellegence is spelled INTELLIGENCE
2. geniune is spelled GENUINE

Learn how to spell before judging someone elses INTELLIGENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Evan Platt)
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bender@doemain (Michael Bender) wrote:

>FrΘdΘric ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS, PLEASE ?
>
>Thank you everyone for participating in this USENET intellegence
>determination experiment.  We are now concluding the experiment. In case you
>are wondering, there is no "FREECALLS WORLDWIDE" product or service being
>offered here; we placed this seemingly-geniune advertisement to many USENET
>newsgroups just to determine how many gullible, greedy, dishonest and
>technically illiterate people read the alt groups. The results are what we
>expected - over 85% of the USENET population that reads the alt groups AND
>that responds to these types of advertisements are annoying little sniveling
>bastards who are out to make a quick buck at someone else's expense, or who
>would happily buy shares in the Golden Gate Bridge if they were offered for
>a low enough price. Further, almost 98% of the people that responded to this
>advertisement with a "me too" post have never contributed anything of
>substance to any USENET newsgroup within the past seven years (which is how
>far back our records of all posts made to all USENET groups all over the
>world go).

Really? How many times have I posted, and in howmany groups?? Thought
so.

>
>Thankyou once again for participating in this most illuminating experiment.
>If you were one of the "me too" posters may I suggest that you trade your
>computer in for a television set? You'll be much happier.

MAW???!!! Paw just shot out the puter screen again.



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:11 1995
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From: Grant Hudson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE ************ CLICK HERE *************************************************
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He thinks he a PhD, can't you tell.  They're all a bunch of
self-important drivel.


On 23 Oct 1995, Steve Drost wrote:

>
> Judas Priest, who does this asswipe think he is, anyway?
>


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:13 1995
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C'mon, he's a PhD, for God's sake.  He doesn't have to learn to spell.


On 23 Oct 1995, MVTelCARD wrote:

>
> I would agree with you on most of your observations. However, you seem to
> have some trouble yourself:
>
> 1. intellegence is spelled INTELLIGENCE
> 2. geniune is spelled GENUINE
>
> Learn how to spell before judging someone elses INTELLIGENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:14 1995
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Michael Bender wrote:

>         **************************************************************
>                 The following post is satire. It is meant to be
>                 funny and to satarize an all-to-common occurance

maybe that should be satyrize??

*sunbird*


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:15 1995
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From: "Alison J. Sage" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE ************ CLICK HERE *************************************************
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 09:52:53 -0500
Organization: University of Evansville
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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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If I see another one of these on a newsgroup for asciiart ( FYI about 60
to 70 % of the postings in here have this for the subject header ) If I
see another one of these postings I am gonna go off.  Someones ass is
gonna be mine and everyone elses that I know that really thinks these suck.
Post them where they are relevant, needed, wanted, worth my time.

NOT
HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Drost)
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE ************ CLICK HERE *************************************************
Date: 25 Oct 1995 04:51:13 GMT
Organization: Dordt College, Sioux Center, IA
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Michael Bender (bender@doemain) wrote:
: Grant Hudson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : On 23 Oct 1995, MVTelCARD wrote:
: : > I would agree with you on most of your observations. However, you seem to
: : > have some trouble yourself:
: : >
: : > 1. intellegence is spelled INTELLIGENCE
: : > 2. geniune is spelled GENUINE
: : >
: : > Learn how to spell before judging someone elses INTELLIGENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

: Are USENET participants completely devoid of the ability to understand
: sarcasm and satire when they see it? I can't believe how many people have
: complained to me that either:

:     1. They don't want to see my advertisements (I didn't post any ads)

: or:

:     2. I have no right to conduct a USENET experiment (there was no
:       experiment)

: Sheesh... maybe I need to put a big paragraph like this in front of
: satirical posts:

:       **************************************************************
:               The following post is satire. It is meant to be
:               funny and to satarize an all-to-common occurance
:               on USENET. Repeat, the following post is SATIRE.
:       **************************************************************

: Remember when USENET used to be fun and people have a certain minimum level
: of a sense of humor?

: mike

: --
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
:                       (under construction)
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

It's pretty egotistical of you to assume that other people are going to
think it's funny just because you do.  Normally, I wouldn't say that,
but, well...  the point is, it was about as funny as a plane crash.  It's
also kind of immature of you to insult people because they don't think
your jokes are funny.

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Norman Zaremba)
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE ************ CLICK HERE *************************************************
Date: 26 Oct 1995 20:40:01 GMT
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Steve Drost has a sensitivity problem.

If it was meant to be funny, drop it already.


--
           *** Paul Zaremba - Product Engineering - TDM, Inc. ****
                       Urbana, IL / State College, PA
     RF Devices, Photonics, SCoPTiC, AL/TENS, AV Processing and more....
                          email: [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Joshua Berezin)
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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE *****************
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Date: 19 Oct 1995 03:16:26 GMT
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Christopher K Greenhalgh ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <460jv5$[e-mail]>,
: Aurelien Broszniowski  <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >So what is this? Im strongly interested since Im a french student in
: >the UK. So being able to call In France for free... What a dream...
: >
: >Im looking forward from news.. bye...
: >
: >
: test...no need to reply

Damn, we were all jumping at the chance to reply...

Oops guess I just did.

GO TO alt.test. Okay?


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (JRosariojr)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Freq for Puerto Rico
Date: 23 Oct 1995 08:46:49 -0400
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Does anybody have freq for San Juan and other police dept, EMS various
other city dept.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Scan4fun)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Freq needed for W. Plains, Mo
Date: 23 Oct 1995 08:33:38 -0400
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Hoping someone can provide me with freq's for West Plains, Missour.  I've
checked out Police Call from Radio Shack and Betty Bearcat.  Looking for
those freq's that aren't listed or well known.  Thank you in advance for
your help.  Jim in Clarksville, Tenn


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:22 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Frequency CD-ROM - Wh 3/3
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Distribution: world
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 11:25:00 -0500
Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc. - 516-736-6662
Lines: 80

Subject: Frequency CD-ROM - Where?

(Continued from previous message)

* NY residents please add 7.00% sales tax
** Continental US only- All other destinations will be slightly
higher. We accept Master Card, Visa and American Express. Prices,
datafile, and program specifications are subject to change without
notice.

PerCon Corporation [phone]                          4/1/95

                       PerCon Corporation

Field Name  Type  Width |CDROM |SPCTRM|  US  | Description
__________  ____  _____ |______|______|______|__________________
FREQUENCY   Char     16 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Frequency (Lower)
FREQ_HIGH   Char     16 |  *   |      |  *   |Upper Frequency
CALLSIGN    Char     10 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Callsign
RADIO_SERV  Char      2 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Radio Service Code
DBA_NAME    Char     40 |  *   |  *   |  *   |DBA Name
LIC_STATE   Char      2 |  *   |      |      |Licensee State
LIC_ZIP     Char      9 |  *   |      |      |Licensee Zip
LIC_ADDR    Char     35 |  *   |      |      |Licensee Street Add.
LIC_CITY    Char     20 |  *   |      |      |Licensee City
LICENSEE    Char    100 |  *   |      |      |Licensee
APPL_PHONE  Char     10 |  *   |      |      |Applicant Phone
XMIT_LAT    Char      6 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Transmitter Lat.
XMIT_LONG   Char      7 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Transmitter Long.
XMIT_ELEV   Char      5 |  *   |      |      |Transmitter Elev.
XMIT_HGHT   Char      5 |  *   |      |      |Transmitter Height
XMIT_HAAT   Char      5 |  *   |      |      |Hght Above Ave.Terr.
XMIT_EFF    Char      5 |  *   |      |      |Effective Height
XMIT_STRUH  Char      5 |  *   |      |      |Structure Height
XMIT_ADDR   Char     80 |  *   |      |      |Transmitter Address
XMIT_CITY   Char     20 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Transmitter City
XMIT_COUNT  Char     30 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Transmitter County
XMIT_STATE  Char      2 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Transmitter State
CLASS_STAT  Char      4 |  *   |  *   |  *   |Class of Station
TYPE_MS     Char      1 |  *   |      |      |Type of Message Ser.
AREA_OPER   Char      1 |  *   |      |      |Area of Operation
RADIUS_OP   Char      4 |  *   |      |      |Radius of Operation
ANT_TYPE    Char     10 |  *   |      |      |Antenna Type
ELEV_ANGLE  Char      6 |  *   |      |      |Elevation Angle
AZIMUTH     Char      6 |  *   |      |      |Azimuth
POLARIZATN  Char      3 |  *   |      |      |Polarization
GAIN        Char      4 |  *   |      |      |Gain
PATH_LEN    Char      6 |  *   |      |      |Path Length
BEAM_WIDTH  Char      8 |  *   |      |      |Beam Width
ERP         Char      8 |  *   |      |      |ERP
ERP_UNITS   Char      2 |  *   |      |      |ERP Units
ERP_IND     Char      1 |  *   |      |      |ERP Indicator
POWER_OUT   Char      8 |  *   |      |      |Power Out
PO_UNITS    Char      2 |  *   |      |      |Power Out Units
PO_IND      Char      1 |  *   |      |      |Power Out Indicator
EMISSIONS   Char     15 |  *   |      |      |Emissions
ISSUE_DATE  Char      6 |  *   |      |      |License Issue Date
EXPIR_DATE  Char      6 |  *   |      |      |License Exp. Date
OPER_BEGIN  Char      4 |  *   |      |      |Operation Begin Time
OPER_END    Char      4 |  *   |      |      |Operation End Time
NR_MOB_VEH  Nume      4 |  *   |  *   |      |# Mobile Vehicle
NR_MOB_PRT  Nume      4 |  *   |  *   |      |# Mobile Portable
NR_MOB_AIR  Nume      4 |  *   |  *   |      |# Mobile Aircraft
NR_MOB_MAR  Nume      4 |  *   |  *   |      |# Mobile Marine
NR_MOB_PAG  Nume      5 |  *   |  *   |      |# Mobile Pagers
DB_ID       Char      1 |  *   |      |  *   |Originating DB ID
AUTH_TYPE   Char      1 |  *   |      |      |Authorization Type
CP_AUTH     Char      2 |  *   |      |      |CP authorization NO.
AO_DESC     Char    100 |  *   |      |      |Area of Oper. Desc.
PL_SPECS    Char     33 |  *   |      |      |Paint & Light Specs.
SPEC_COND   Char    100 |  *   |      |      |Special Conditions
XMIT_LATD   Char      1 |  *   |      |      |Latitude Direction
XMIT_LOND   Char      1 |  *   |      |      |Longitude Direction
TYPE_LC     Char      1 |  *   |      |      |Type of Last Contact
DATE_LC     Char      6 |  *   |      |      |Date of Last Contact
NR_UNITS    Char      4 |  *   |      |      |Number Of Units

4/1/95 Subject to change without notice.
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:23 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Eric Helms)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FREQUENCY COUNTERS
Date: 25 Oct 1995 22:11:08 GMT
Organization: svl.trw.com
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In article <46gp5g$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (DrRomo) wrote:

> I AM THINKING OF GETTING A FREQUENCY COUNTER FROM RADIO SHACK BUT WOULD
>Snip!!!

In response to your question above, How close you have to be depens upon
the power output of the transmission under study, what the distance is
between the transmission and the recieve point, the sensitivity of the
counter and the gain factor of your intercept antenna.

If I were interested in finding new signals of interest or making a
determination of what signals were being transmitted from an antenna
site/farm.  I would use a direction antenna with a beam patten of 3-6
degrees at most (yagi style) with a gain of at least 6 dB (cost should be
less than $100.00).  This would allow you to focus on the site of interest
and eliminate a considerable amount of other signal sources.
A broad band preamp (+5-10 dB) would be of considerable value if one was
attemping to intercept a directional signal when you are not located in
the signal path.
The freq. counter used should be one that has an adjustable gain,
adjustable gating period and will run off battery power (field use of
course) as well as 110 VAC.  You should be able to find one for less than
$200.00 ( opinion - RS is not the best place to be looking for something
like that)

Hope this helps and info me on other peoples comments please.

EH
[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (BILL DILLSTROM )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FRG-9600 - SOLD........
Date: 26 Oct 1995 08:50:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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Thanks to those who responded, the unit has been sold.

Bill.....




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:25 1995
Path: news.epix.net!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Zipper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS : Pro 51 W/cellular (code 11A3)
Date: 22 Oct 1995 17:33:53 GMT
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E-mail offers to [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (BILL DILLSTROM )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: FRG-9600 w/extras- Mint
Date: 25 Oct 1995 03:21:45 GMT
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I have an absolutely mint condition Yaesu FRG-9600 for sale. This radio
is the cleanest one i have ever seen and looks like it just came out of
the box. Includes the TV board, power supply, mobile mounting bracket,
original boxes, manuals, etc. Absolutely mint (never mobile) with no
signs of wear at all. Covers 60 megs to 905 megs with full cellular.
Also has USB and LSB in addition to AM wide/narrow and FM wide/narrow.
Direct keypad entry and rotary tuning. 100 scanable channels. Excellent
sensitivity across the entire spectrum. Price $395 shipped. If
interested email me. Thanks....Bill


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:26 1995
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From: Andrew Clegg,B 2 Rm 271P,[phone] <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: FULL-COVERAGE AR-2500
Date: 26 Oct 1995 13:03:44 GMT
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FOR SALE:  AOR AR-2500 scanner.
                2016 channels (1984 scan, 32 search pairs)
                0.5 - 1500 MHz full coverage (including SW and cellular)
                User-selectable AM, NFM, and WFM
                BFO for SSB reception
                Signal strength LED bar-graph (9 or 10 segments, I forget)
                Built-in 9-pin RS-232 port
                Attenuator switch to reduce intermod
                Back panel doo-dads: atten switch, BNC ant jack, ext spkr, RS-232, & power
                Includes power supply and RS-232 cable
                Compact and light weight
                Very good/excellent condition (no LCD backlight; very light cup ring
                                                                                mark on top; otherwise perfect--will
                                                                                guarantee)

If interested, please contact me by email or phone to work out a price,
or possible trade for good hand-held. I will give you more details, including
my honest opinion of this rig's good and bad points.


Andrew Clegg
Naval Research Laboratory
Code 7213
4555 Overlook Avenue SW
Washington, DC  20375-5351
[phone] (W)
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:28 1995
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From: Gary Stimpson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro-2024
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 02:04:11 -0500
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 == 60 Channel Pro-2024 Desk-Top Programmable Scanner ==

 - Coverage (MHz):
   30-50, 50-54, 118-146, 138-144, 144-148, 380-450, 450-470, 470-512.
 - Features:
   LCD, 2-second scan delay, memory backup, lock-out, storage banks,
   priority channel, search (fast/slow), monitor memories, squelch,
   external antenna jack, scanning (fast/slow).

 - Good condition.  US$75, no COD.  U.S. and Canada only.

Leave e-mail to [e-mail].  Thanks!

PS: Reason for selling: I hardly listen to it, now that my computer takes
up most of my "hobby" time (and "life").  Plus I need the money for
upgrading my Amiga 'puter.  Feel feel to ask questions.

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:28 1995
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From: Gary Stimpson <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: Pro-2024 (correction)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 00:54:32 -0500
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 == 60 Channel Pro-2024 Desk-Top Programmable Scanner ==

 o Coverage (MHz):
   30-54, 118-136, 138-174, 380-512.  Over 23,000 frequencies.
 o Features:
   LCD, 2-second scan delay, memory backup, lock-out, storage banks,
   priority channel, search (fast/slow), monitor memories, squelch,
   external antenna jack, scanning (fast/slow).

 o Good condition.  US$75, no COD.  U.S. and Canada only.

 o Leave e-mail to [e-mail].  Thanks!

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:29 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Waldemar Kowalski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Yupi MVT7100 full coverage
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 03:34:25 GMT
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I am going to a computer-controllable scanner, and so am selling my
UK-spec Yupiteru MVT7100 full coverage scanner. Yes, it does get cell
phones etc, although of course you're not supposed to be listening to
them...

It's been used, but is in very good condition. Comes with all original
accessories other than the ac adapter, which only worked in the UK
anyway, so I left it there...

Yours for only $575+shipping. Either email me at "[e-mail]"; or
leave voicemail at my work number in Seattle - 206-889-5218.



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:30 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Hancock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FT Lauderdale/Boca Raton Freq
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 22:20:33 GMT
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I'm headed to Boca Raton next week and I thought I'd take my scanner.
Can someone please post police/fire etc. frequencies.

Also, anyone know of some good scanner shops in the area?

Thanks in advance.

Paul Hancock



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:31 1995
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: GMRS licensing requir
From: [e-mail] (Clint Bradford)
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Subject: Re: GMRS licensing requirements?

>>Current GMRS licensing fee is at $75 for 5 years (this is what I was
>>told by the FCC Land Mobile / GMRS branch in Gettysburg, PA).

That is not correct.

The long-awaited (partial) reduction in user fees for GMRS licensees
went into effect September 18, 1995. The user fee will drop
from $7/yr to $3/yr, or down to $15 for a five-year license.

This reduction will affect applicants for NEW or RENEWAL
licenses. The application fee remains at $45 (ugh!), so the
combined application and user fee will come to $60. (Still too
high, IMHO.)

This reduction in user fees will NOT affect applications for
modification of an EXISTING license. Instead, applicants for a
modification will continue to be assessed the $45 application
fee, but NO USER FEE. However, if the modified license is subsequently
granted, it will retain the original expiration date, rather
than starting the five-year clock all over again.

There's 574-INST.ZIP in the PRSG File Area on ATTENTION to Details BBS
that explains the licensing process is great (some say "excrutiating")
detail <g>, and gives nine examples of completed GMRS applications.



Clint Bradford
... ATTENTION to Details BBS - 909-681-6221 - REACT/GMRS/AMATEUR RADIO
---
 * TLX v4.00 *
 ■ wcECHO 4.1 ≈ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details ■ Mira Loma, CA ■ 909-681-6221


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:32 1995
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From: Usher <[e-mail]>
Subject: Houston Area Freqs, Constable Precint 5, Sheriff, traffic copters...
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Hey
Any one have info on Houston Area frequencies like;
Houston PD, Constable pct 5, Sheriff, Traffic copters, fire....
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:33 1995
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From: [e-mail] (NEW HOST)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: i will trade payphone for scanr w/cell
Date: 24 Oct 1995 01:14:03 -0400
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i will trade a ny tel look a like payphone good working condition for a
scanner with cellular.
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:34 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: icom r-100
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How much should an I-COM R-100 cost used?

**************************************************************
* Jonathan Demaree        Internet [e-mail]
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* Phone: [phone]       TVRO - Weather Sats - Ham Radio
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:35 1995
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From: Gary Young <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ICOM R100 HELP
Date: 21 Oct 1995 16:30:51 GMT
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Does anyone have info on restoring the 800-900mhz freq's in an ICOM R100?
Any help would be great!
Thanks





From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Lumkes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Info/comments on RS Pro 2030 wanted
Date: 22 Oct 1995 18:25:02 GMT
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Looking at a RS Pro 2030 for $100. Any comments on quality of
scanner and/or price is appreciated. Owners review would be great.

Thanks alot, John
[e-mail]
KG9EA



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:37 1995
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From: [e-mail] (John Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: info:wanted police car computer!
Date: 21 Oct 1995 10:06:47 GMT
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GaryA27446 ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Okay, let's figure out what you're referring to, first.

: Some police departments actually have computers in their cars--laptops
: mostly. They operate just like any other computer does, allowing them to
: do word processing, etc.

: Hope this narrows it down.
: Gary Allen

I have tuned to some police frequencies only to hear digital static,
these are the MDT frequencies. In Phoenix they are 453.5375, and
453.4375, or in tht neighborhood, I think. Some cities have 800mhz
systems. how do I find the MDT data frequency on these systems ???

I think I can copy the data from the MDT frequency if i get the right
decoder package like one from universal radio..right ???

JOHN/PHX ([e-mail]) computing & making good Chemistry!


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:38 1995
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: LILCO RADIO SIGNAL CODES
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Can anyone provide the current radio signal codes for the Long Island Lighting
Company (LILCO) in Nassau County, NY?  Please E-Mail list if available.
Thanks for the assistance!
Mark

[e-mail]
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clarke Gholson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Loking for CARMA (Chicago Area Radio Mon. Assn.)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 23:14:54 GMT
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[e-mail] (Kristian A. Harris) wrote:

>Well, I have been reading rec.radio.scanner for quite some time hoping to
>find the answer to my question without making a post.  But I am not sure
>I will find out so I ask...

>Does anyone know how to get in touch with the Chicago Area Radio
>Monitoring Assn (CARMA) ?  I would really love to join.  Thanks.

Their bbs phone number is 708-852-1292. I'm sure that will get you the
info you need.
73, Clarke

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:39 1995
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From: [e-mail] (LICME989)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: LOOKING 4 BC200XLT
Date: 23 Oct 1995 07:39:38 -0400
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I WANT A BC200XLT IN GOOD COND.  WITH WARRANTY IF POSSIBLE.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:40 1995
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From: Dave Katzenmaier <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: LOOKING 4 BC200XLT
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Not too many places have BC200XLT scanners left.  I found DAMARK International
has factory serviced units at $160.00 + S/H.  They also have extended service
plans available for them also.  Their phone number is 1 800 827-6767 and the
item number is B-5511-200551.  It comes with case, rubber duck antenna, battery
and earphone.  I
purchased one severl months back and have no problems with it.  There are no
special mods done to them so you will have to have any mods done yourself.












From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:41 1995
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From: [e-mail] (EricF3E)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Looking for Bakersfield area frequencies
Date: 25 Oct 1995 18:33:52 -0400
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Moving to Bakersfield next week, and I am curious about good freqs for the
area.  I do have one short list, but I know there must be more out there.
All I have is the local cops and fire stuff.  What about federal, Forest
Service, airports, etc.  I am experienced at finding this stuff, but I
figure why repeat the learning curve that someone else has already
experienced.   Thanks in advance for any help.

73 de Eric KE6BBA


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:42 1995
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From: Andrew Clegg,B 2 Rm 271P,[phone] <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: MESSAGE FOR MICHAEL MARCUS
Date: 26 Oct 1995 19:31:41 GMT
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Michael,

Your email address did not come through correctly, so I
can't respond.  Could you please send me your address
again?  Thanks!

Andrew Clegg



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:42 1995
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From: "N. Schultheiss" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Militay  aircraft SE Michigan??
Date: 26 Oct 1995 03:56:32 GMT
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Does anyone have any good freq. to pass along for SE Mi.?  I have the
local Air National Guard bases tower but nothing more.

  Neil

==============================================================
N. Schultheiss
[e-mail]
Detroit, Michigan, USA
==============================================================




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:43 1995
From: [e-mail] (Rob Greenwell)
Subject: Modifying PRO-2030
Date: 24 Oct 95 03:55:13 -0700
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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  The Local Radio Shack outlet store has a sale on the Discontinued
PRO-2030 ($89).
  The 800 MHZ. modification I've seen for this scanner references
cutting L201.   As I understand it I have a Later Modification
Scanner, and this "Coil" is not on the Circuit Board.

  Does anyone have a Workaround?

  Please respond directly to [e-mail]

--SMoody


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:44 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clive Parsons)
Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
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[e-mail] (Andy Moss) wrote:
 > It struck me that the majority of people who use cellular phones are:
 >
 > - really boring
 > - in the process of breaking up a relationship
 > - prostitutes
 > - drug dealers
 > - speaking in a foreign language
 > - idiots

Spot on ;-/

Cheers,

Clive.
--


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:45 1995
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From: "Rolando J. Garcia" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Mystery cordless phone frequency
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[e-mail] (Clive Parsons) wrote:
>[e-mail] (Andy Moss) wrote:
> > It struck me that the majority of people who use cellular phones are:
> >
> > - really boring
> > - in the process of breaking up a relationship
> > - prostitutes
> > - drug dealers
> > - speaking in a foreign language
> > - idiots
>
>Spot on ;-/
>
>Cheers,
>
>Clive.
>--

Yes but they're still hilarious.




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:46 1995
Path: news.epix.net!usenet
From: [e-mail] (Tom Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: NASCAR Freqs.
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 17:24:09 GMT
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Just became a NASCAR fan . . . any recommendations on what type of
scanner to buy and what freqency bands or frequencies I need to be
able to monitor?
                                                              ,,,
                                                             (o o)
-- [e-mail] --------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:47 1995
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Subject: Need Gilroy/Morgan Hill CA police freq.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
From: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 23:41:15 PST
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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WK>Does anyone have the police frequencies for Gilroy and Morgan Hill CA?
WK>Would appreciate any help.

hi.  i used to live in morgan hill for years?  where do you live?

morgan hill...

fire primary   154.145
fire blue (county)  153.845
fire white (mutual aid)  154.280
pubic works (the little white vehicles)  45.600
police primary  155.115
police mutual aid  (LMA or CLEMARS)  154.920

gilroy...

police primary
154.830
police secondary  155.610 (i think, or this is the repeater input)
police (LMA)  154.920
fire primary  154.340
public works  453.300

sheriff

"gold" control 1  156.210 (repeats south county traffic to north county)
control 1  155.415  (repeats north county traffic to south county)
detectives and tactical F5  154.875

CDF (unincorporated areas fire)  151.445 (dispatch)

email me if you need anything specific.  i have some good information
too...

greg
kd6ven
[e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:48 1995
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From: b w edginton <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Need phone # for Javiaton in the UK
Date: 25 Oct 1995 07:42:08 GMT
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[e-mail] (DJBlu) wrote:
>Please please please!!!
>
>Send the phone number to Javiaton in the UK to [e-mail].
>Want to purchase Pro-26 with cell.  If you have information pricing or
>other sources please include.
>
>Thanks a million!
Try  [phone] or view home page: http://www.demon.co.uk/javiation/
index.html   or email : Internet:[e-mail]
Hope I trabscribed correctly
Brian



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:49 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Joshua Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: NEEDED-Radio Equipment of All Types
Date: 21 Oct 1995 20:37:54 GMT
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Hello,

     My church youth group is going to be providing a sort of
communications command center during an upcoming city festival which
draws 100,000 people over two weekends in December.  We are soliciting
donations of radio equipment of all types: CBs, scanners, Ham radios, etc.
  We have people who are licensed to use Ham radios.  But what we really
need are handheld CBs and scanners.  Shipping will be paid by us and you
can rest assured that your donation will go to a worthy cause that will
get all the use out of it that's possible.

     Please email me.

Thank you,
Chip Adams
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:50 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Allen F. Corrigan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: New Buyer wants Scanner Magazine/Catalogue Info
Date: 26 Oct 1995 14:47:11 GMT
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For several years I have been using a very old, crystal-style eight-channel
scanner.  It is certainly time to move up!

I am interested in any information about magazines, or articles, reviewing
various scanners.  Also, if there is any info on scanner catalogues.

So far, I have looked at a Bearcat "Sports" type model, yellow in color.
But I need more info on other brands for comparison.

Thanks!

 - - -
--

Allen F. Corrigan                               VOICE: [phone]
14600 Turney Road                               INTERNET:
Maple Heights, OH 44137-4788                    [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:50 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Rusty Smith)
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Subject: November Monitoring Times
Date: 24 Oct 1995 19:56:11 GMT
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I just got my Novemeber Monitoring Times yesterday. There is a good
article about p.c.'s and upgrading them. It is usefull information.
I use computers and radios and both together sometimes. To me computer
applications in radio are interesting. It's good to see MT have a Web
page and move forward in technolgy. This article is strictly about
p.c.'s and from my viewpoint off focus.  Maybe because I work with
computers and networks all day I want to go home and read about radios
to relax. Just my 2 cents worth.

--

Rusty Smith                            Division of Information Technology
[e-mail]                   Network Engineering Group
rsmith@wiscmacc                        1210 W. Dayton St. Rm 3221
University of Wisconsin at Madison     Madison WI 53706 [phone]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:51 1995
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From: Bill Watson <[e-mail]>
Subject: PACKET RECIEVE
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  Does any body know anything about the Wirless data Tx called RD-LAP9.6 (9600 Baud)

For recieving only .As far as I know it is something that Mototola is
useing...Thanks



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:52 1995
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From: Bill Watson <[e-mail]>
Subject: PACKET RECIEVE
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  Does any body know anything about the Wirless data Tx called RD-LAP9.6 (9600 Baud)

For recieving only .As far as I know it is something that Mototola is
useing...Thanks



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:53 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clarke Gholson)
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Subject: POCSAG/GOLAY
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 23:14:44 GMT
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What the most reasonably priced decoder that does a good job at
decoding POCSAG and GOLAY?  I have built the Peter Baston 741 op amp
circuit but not much luck..too many errors.  Now my interest is piqued
and would like to see the real thing.


73, Clarke

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:54 1995
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From: [e-mail] (POPCOMM)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Popular Communication Air Travel
Date: 25 Oct 1995 09:29:47 -0400
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Ah, you can e-mail the editor of POP'COMM direct via the Internet to find
out!  ([e-mail])


Anyway, the answer is Delta Air Lines.  They allow "VHF Scanning
Receivers" on board flights.  Just don't listen to UHF now, OK?!


73,
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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:55 1995
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Subject: PORTABLE ANTENNAS
From: [e-mail] (Andrew Forrester)
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 00:20:00 -0500
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  Being the proud owner of a new Pro-43, I am happy to report that
 the antenne supplyed with the scanner really sucks big time.
  Monitoring the posts for awhile, this seems to be a common problem
 with many portable scanners. Great scanners, but they cheaped out
 on the ducky. My yellow guy did not even come with a connector on him,
 so perching him atop the scanner is a real balancing act.
 It really draws the stares as well. :)
 Soooooo.
  Who knows of a Really GOOD replacment antenne that is Great in all
 bandwidths as well as the 800 MHz range. For my use, 25-1.3 MHz
 If you have had a good experience with a purchased antenne could you
 give a brief desc. of it, price, and where to purchase it.
  This could be a valuable post for all in need of a better antenne.

  BTW, has anyone had good experiences with signal amps for portables?
  Are they big bulky units or what.

  While Im at it why not throw in the kitchen sink and let us know if
  there is any car mounts for portables (Pro-43) or even a nice corinthian
  leather case, and where does Bill Cheek get those 850 mAh nicads.

  Please deposit your lifes amassed knowledge in this conference so
  others can benefit as well.

  Thanks for all who can find the time to respond.
  We might not mention it all the time, especialy the ones in the background,
  but we do appreciate (and use),the information offered by others.
  Now get back to work. Opps, wrong memo. Sorry. ;)

  Andrew Forrester.
  [e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:57 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Navarre)
Subject: Re: Portable Walkie phone (whatever)
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David Retzik ([e-mail]) wrote:
: My boss at work walks around with a portable Mottorola phone that looks
: very similar to a walkie talkie.  The most I can come up with is I saw
: the word "Radius" on the phone one day when he set it on his desk.  Can
: anyone tell me what frequency he might be on?  Sorry I can't be more
: helpful with exactly what it is but I have never seen one of these
: before.  If possible please e-mail me your response.

Well, the RADIUS *is* a handi-talkie, not a phone. It may very well
have phone patch capabilities but is not a true cell phone nor a cordless
phone. Depending upon the type of work that the business is involved in
it be licensed to any number of frequencies (*thats* not much help now is
it...) or it may simply be set on one of the itinerant freqs (not too
likely *if* he has phone patch capabilities).

Now the bright side... IF you find the freq you can be (fairly) sure that
you're violating any of the federal or state statutes regarding
monitoring of phone conversations (not that it stops many folks, anyway).

Check these freqs out first:

 Freq     Mode    Ident         USE
 ------   ----  ----------  -----------
 151.625   NFM   Red Dot     Itinerant
 151.955   NFM   Purple Dot  Itinerant
 154.570   NFM   Blue Dot    Itinerant
 154.600   NFM   Green Dot   Itinerant
 462.575   NFM   White Dot   GMRS
 462.625   NFM   Black Dot   GMRS
 462.675   NFM   Orange Dot  GMRS
 464.500   NFM   Brown Dot   Itinerant
 464.550   NFM   Yellow Dot  Itinerant
 467.7625  NFM   J Dot
 467.8125  NFM   K Dot
 467.850   NFM   Silver Star
 467.900   NFM   Red Star
 467.875   NFM   Gold Star
 467.925   NFM   Blue Star

If he's not there you can start a search bwtn:
150 - 161 Mhz and 450 - 460 Mhz

If he's not there he could be in the 220 -222.95, the UHF T-band (what
is it??? 487 - 492 or,something like that) or maybe up in the 800 or 900
mhz band. You can tell a lot from the size of the antenna on the radio.

Ken

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
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Subject: Re: Portable Walkie phone (whatever)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 08:46:56
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In article <46f37q$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Retzik) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (David Retzik)
>Subject: Portable Walkie phone (whatever)
>Date: 23 Oct 1995 03:47:06 GMT

>My boss at work walks around with a portable Mottorola phone that looks
>very similar to a walkie talkie.  The most I can come up with is I saw
>the word "Radius" on the phone one day when he set it on his desk.  Can
>anyone tell me what frequency he might be on?  Sorry I can't be more
>helpful with exactly what it is but I have never seen one of these
>before.  If possible please e-mail me your response.

>Thanks in advance


>==Dave===============\
>[e-mail] ||
>=====================/

A Radius is a Motorola 2-way Handie-Talkie, and could could be on any of the
VHF or UHF business band frequencies.

Steve


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In article <46f37q$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
says...
>
>My boss at work walks around with a portable Mottorola phone that looks
>very similar to a walkie talkie.  The most I can come up with is I saw
>the word "Radius" on the phone one day when he set it on his desk.  Can
>anyone tell me what frequency he might be on?  Sorry I can't be more
>helpful with exactly what it is but I have never seen one of these
>before.  If possible please e-mail me your response.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>==Dave===============\
>[e-mail] ||
>=====================/
>
if the antenna is short he could be on uhf in the 400 meg or he could be
on 800 meg trunking     Brad



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: PRO 2035 + PRO 2042 DO GET CELL!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Summary:  clarification on PRO-2035 images and spurious responses
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Following up my own article <[e-mail]>,
I made a typo when I wrote:

    >Triple conversion scanners are less prone to (but immune from)
    >receiving images.

I meant to write:

    Triple conversion scanners are less prone to (but NOT immune from)
    receiving images.

From the 1/95 Monitoring Times article: "The Radio Shack PRO-2035
Scanner: How Does It Compare With the PRO-2006?"

                       [ ... ]

                Images and Spurious Responses

        The PRO-2004/5/6 series, the  portable  PRO-43,  and
 the  PRO-2035  use  "up  conversion,"  but  the  PRO-2035's
 609.005 - 613.5 MHz first IF (intermediate frequency) is  2
 MHz  higher  than  the  earlier  models.   We speculate the
 change  was  made  to  avoid  interference  problems  which
 bothered some owners of the earlier scanners who lived near
 a channel 20 television transmitter.  The TV  signal  mixes
 with  one  of  the  local oscillators and generated a third
 signal near 48.5 MHz, the 2nd IF, causing  interference  on
 several frequencies.
        Although  up  conversion  affords   improved   image
 rejection,   triple   conversion  and  frequency  synthesis
 circuitry are complicated and several  images  were  heard,
 especially on the PRO-2035.
        On both the PRO-2006 and PRO-2035, images of  paging
 transmitters  were  audible  in  the  159  - 162 MHz range.
 Analysis shows these signals to be 771.9975 MHz higher than
 the  displayed  frequency.   For  example, the 931.5125 MHz
 KOR933 paging transmitter, located more than 7 miles  away,
 was heard when the PRO-2035 was tuned to 159.515 MHz.
        A paging image hindered  reception  of  a  sheriff's
 repeater in the next county on 159.15 MHz.  The same paging
 images were present but barely detectable on the  PRO-2006.
 Another  image,  heard  only  by  the PRO-2035, appeared on
 146.075 MHz,  and  it  was  actually  a  904.075  MHz  data
 transmission.
        The PRO-2035 received cellular phone images, reduced
 in  strength,  between  1105  and 1115 MHz.....
--
==============================================================================
Copyright 1995, Bob Parnass, AJ9S                              [e-mail]

                      Locate transmitter sites with RadioMap(tm)


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:01 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brett Duane)
Subject: Re: PRO 2035 + PRO 2042 DO GET CELL!
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In article <45g3ng$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>The reason I ask is that I have the PRO-2035 and although the catalog
>indicates that it
>uses triple conversion, the user manual appears (based on my very limited
>knowledge) to suggest otherwise.  Nowhere in the manual are the words
>_triple_ or _conversion_ to be found.  In fact the specification page
>shows the following IF frequencies:  the 1st IF is 609.005 - 613.5 MHz and
>the 2nd IF is 48.5 MHz.

This is the description of a triple conversion receiver.
RF -> 1st IF       first conversion
1st IF -> 2nd IF   second conversion
2nd IF -> audio    third conversion

>All this creates another question.  Given the IF frequencies for the 2035
>how does one
>compute 1105 to 1115 MHz as being the area where one would get cellular
>images?  My first scanner had an IF of 10.7 and determining if a received
>frequency was an image was pretty straight forward.  Double the IF to get
>21.4 and add or subtract that value from the received frequency.  Does
>this formula not work for triple conversion scanners?

It works using the first IF frequencies.

>  Does the 2035 use
>triple conversion or not?

It does.

Brett   KA7CGB



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:02 1995
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From: Bill Hammon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-39, why were they recalled?
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 18:29:31 -0500
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Andrew Cogswell wrote:
>
> On 16 Oct 95 16:48:43 EST, [e-mail] says...
> >
> >I just bought a Realistic PRO-39.  It was the last one they had, and the dealer
> >said that they were recalled because they recieved something that they
> >shouldn't.  What is this, and what frequencies? (Is it cellular phones?)
>
> I've got the Pro-39 as well. They do pick up cellular phones so that's probably why.. they're
> clearing them out to make room for the new ones that don't pick up cellular.
They can't sell them anymore because they are easily modified to recieve
cellular frequencies directly (not images).  New scanners can't be modified to
recieve these frequencies, however many of them can pick up images of the
frequencies.
--
Bill Hammon
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From: [e-mail] (Clive Parsons)
Subject: Re: PRO-39, why were they recalled?
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Bill Hammon <[e-mail]> wrote:
 > They can't sell them anymore because they are easily modified to receive
 > cellular frequencies directly (not images).  New scanners can't be modified to
 > receive these frequencies, however many of them can pick up images of the
 > frequencies.

Heh, believe it or not, there are other countries on Earth apart from the USA.

European models receive what they were designed to receive.

Walk into any Tandy store in the UK, or contact Javiation. What's the problem?
--


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:04 1995
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From: Matthew R Brummer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO-43 COMPUTER INTERFACE???
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 13:31:28 -0500
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Bill Cheek of Commtronics supposedly makes one, but I don't have an
address, or even the city in order to get the phone number.  I've heard
this one is only for limited functions like programming.

 Questions:
        1) Are there any others out there?
        2) What can functions can they perform?
        3) Who makes 'em and for how much?
        4) Good/Bad/Ugly personal experience with any of them?

Thanx...

--> Matt

[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:05 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Silas E. Cheeseman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO-50 800MHz possible?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 22:11:06 GMT
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Sorry, should've asked about this in my first post, but forgot.  Any
MOD's for PRO-50 that will allow 800 MHz band?

Thanks.




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From: [e-mail] (Silas E. Cheeseman)
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Subject: PRO-51 800MHz Possible?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 04:20:09 GMT
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Is there a modification for a PRO-51 to receive the 800MHz band?




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:07 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Mark Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO-51 800MHz Possible?
Date: 26 Oct 1995 19:04:53 GMT
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Silas E. Cheeseman ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Is there a modification for a PRO-51 to receive the 800MHz band?

The Pro-51 receives the 800 MHz band straight out of box.  For most
people, the 800 MHz band is 806-823 MHz and 851-869 MHz.

Much of the cellular phone band, 869-896 MHz, if that is what you want,
can be received as images (in the frequency range 21.4 MHz higher).


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:08 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mahesh Neelakanta)
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Subject: Pro-51 Cellular Mod (keypad combo) Wanted
Date: 25 Oct 1995 19:22:29 GMT
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Does anyone know the keypad combination to unlock the cell bands
on the Radio Shack Pro-51?

thanks,
mahesh


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From: craig todd gafah <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Pro-51 Cellular Mod (keypad combo) Wanted
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On 25 Oct 1995, Mahesh Neelakanta wrote:

> Does anyone know the keypad combination to unlock the cell bands
> on the Radio Shack Pro-51?
>
> thanks,
> mahesh
>
>
A keypad combo to unlock cellular bands on the Pro 51?  I wish it was
that easy.



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:10 1995
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From: Carl Jansson <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: R.S. Pro 51 model # 20-308a
Date: 26 Oct 1995 14:45:49 GMT
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Steve:

My Pro51 has the model number 20-308.  I don't know how it
differs from yours.

As far as I can tell there are no internal modifications
possible (in the _classic_ sense) since most of the
functionality is in the chip itself.

The stock antenna is fine for listening to base stations and
repeaters, but the $10 nine section telescoping antenna from
Radio Shack is *much* better, plus it's tuneable.

I use the Radio Shack glass mount antenna on my car because
it's a much more tidy solution than mag mounts or drilling
holes.  (Before we get started on that discussion about the
glass mount again, I *know* it sucks for VHF Low, but the only
thing around here on VHF Low worth listening to is the Highway
Patrol base station, which even the deafest antenna can pick
up.)  It performs acceptably for the rest of the spectrum.

-Carl



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:10 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gene)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack and Police Call
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 17:41:00 Central
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Where are they selling police call. I live in Illinois. If the product is not
selling anymore is their any other book that is better than Police call for
the Illinois area?
   _
   _

   Please direct mail to:    [e-mail]
   Visit My Homepage at http://www.mcs.net/~gene/
  "The nation that destroys its soil destroys itself"
  - Franklin D. Roosevelt







From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:12 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack and Police Call
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:04:19 -0400
Organization: TerraNet, Inc., Boston, MA, USA
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I've spotted tons of copies in stores in Massachusetts (well three stores
each had about two dozen). I for one will not miss PC or BPC. I bought the
latest addition. It included only a handful of new freqs--ones that they
missed in last year's go around, I might add. It is a marginal piece of
work and of little use, especially to beginners. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
going to get flamed by people who have been buying it every year for the
last decade and using each successive copy to catch with changes, make
comparisons, blah, blah, blah. This is not a new topic and I've heard all
of the arguments. I still maintain that if you want up-to-date and useful
information, you need to go with Scanner Master or similar guides. I
haven't had the opportunity to try out any of the databases on CD-ROM but
from what I know about them, they too must be an improvement. Yes, you
have to pay more than the $9.00 +/- they're asking for PC and BPC but at
least you're getting a useful publication.


In article <46k9sc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] wrote:

> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >Yes, this is true. It is a "discontinued" item at Radio Shack, because the
> >Police Call people announced a new book, out 1Q 95 (Jan/Feb).  However,
> >it may still be available in certain Radio Shacks... even though it was
> >discontinued, my RS guy did a regional stock check using that fancy li'l
> >computer they have.  The stores will sell out what they have, and don't
take it off
> >the shelf.
> >He found 3-4 stores in my area that still showed stock, and he called and
> >found one for me (I also got "Beyond Police Call") which I went and
picked up.
> > But I'd do this quick, as they were out in most of my area stores.
>
> This is not good. I have every issue of this publication (Volume 6)
> since 1979. Is this a situation that requires everyone to write Radio
> Shack or the Publisher? Oh, what will I do now? What other
> publications provide the same kind of factual and f a i r l y accurate
> information? Betty Bearcat publication stinks. I bought one and don't
> use it.

[snip]

--
Michael Alexander
[e-mail]
_____________________________________________________________________Coming to a bookstore near you in November:
The Underground Guide to Computer Security, by Michael Alexander;
published by Addison-Wesley Publishing Company.

"He's lost enough data to fill a small black hole."
_____________________________________________________________________


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:13 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Wayne Joyner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack and Police Call
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 03:13:13 GMT
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<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Yes, this is true. It is a "discontinued" item at Radio Shack, because the
>Police Call people announced a new book, out 1Q 95 (Jan/Feb).  However,
>it may still be available in certain Radio Shacks... even though it was
>discontinued, my RS guy did a regional stock check using that fancy li'l
>computer they have.  The stores will sell out what they have, and don't take it off
>the shelf.
>He found 3-4 stores in my area that still showed stock, and he called and
>found one for me (I also got "Beyond Police Call") which I went and picked up.
> But I'd do this quick, as they were out in most of my area stores.

This is not good. I have every issue of this publication (Volume 6)
since 1979. Is this a situation that requires everyone to write Radio
Shack or the Publisher? Oh, what will I do now? What other
publications provide the same kind of factual and f a i r l y accurate
information? Betty Bearcat publication stinks. I bought one and don't
use it.

Maybe CD is the best way to go. But I'll bet that that will take
awhile before the average listener can afford it. Too big a profit
margin for something the computer does all the work on. Look at this
guy selling Radio Map(tm) at $20 some dollars for your listening area.

Does CRB or Grove still sell publications related to frequencies and
such? I requested a catalog, but ya'll beat me to it. Their out of
stock right now.

Anyway suggestions on sources and resources are gladly welcome here.
Internet searches are kinda difficult when looking for specific things
or areas of interest, unless of course you're into RailRoad or
Aircarft.

Bruce Wayne Joyner, ECNE
Internet   :[e-mail]
CompuServe : 71513.131
Omaha, NE



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:14 1995
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From: Rich Sheff <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack and Police Call
Date: 25 Oct 1995 02:59:49 GMT
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My guess is that you're talking about the '95 edition of Police Call,
and they might be running low on stock of those.  There should
be a new one out for '96 before too much longer.  (Probably in time
for the xmas selling season.)




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:15 1995
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From: [e-mail] (RAllen8184)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Radio Shack and Police Call
Date: 25 Oct 1995 21:42:50 -0400
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For those wanting a copy of Police Call, at least one other source is
Scanner World. Their number is 518 436-9606.

R. Allen


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Radio Shack DX-394
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 16:06:24 GMT
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Sorry about this post, I know this is not a scanner but a shortwave
receiver BUT does anyone know if it is anygood?  I was considering a
Sony 2010 and saw the DX-394 advertised.

Bob
[e-mail]



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:17 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Leigh)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Regency MX-7000
Date: 23 Oct 1995 03:56:06 GMT
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A friend has recently picked up an older scanner, a Regency MX-7000.  It
has a very impressive frequency range, but the scan speed is extremely
slow.  I checked the ftp oak.oakland.edu site, and found a badly written
mod file that does not quite make sense to me.  I'll post it below, and
hopefully someone can clarify it.

"THERE IS A POPULAR MX7000 MOD WHICH IS ADDING A RESISTOR IN PARALLEL WITH
ONE ON THE CPU BOARD TO INCREASE SCAN/SEARCH SPEED.  BY CHANGING C3 FROM
33pf TO 8pf.  YOU DON'T NEED TO DECREASE THE RESISTANCE AS MUCH WHICH
YIELDS LONGER MEMORY BACKUP."

Can anyone clarify this?  Which resistor on the CPU board are they
refering to?

Thanks.  --Leigh/KM6JE.




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ken Koller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: REQ: Mill a/c freqs in SoCal
Date: 24 Oct 1995 22:14:14 -0700
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Hello all,
        I just bought a scanner with military aircraft capabilties, I
live a couple of miles from NAS Point Mugu (My dad works there too.) and
work about 30 miles from Palmdale plant 42 and 60 miles from Edwards. I
have a myriad of frequencies, but if anyone knows what are the best to
listen to, I would greatly appreciate it. Please email with responses.
Thanks.
--
Ken Koller
Photographer, The Santa Clarita Signal
[e-mail]
"Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug."


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jon Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: REQ:Freqs for Blue Angel
Date: 22 Oct 95 19:52:24
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C(>     Hello! I would like to request that someone provide me with the
C(>frequencies used by the Air Force's Blue Angels. They will be performin
C(>this weekend here in San Francisco for Fleet Week. Please keep in mind
C(>that my Realistic Pro-34 cannot handle any frequencies higher than 950
C(>MHz.

C(>     If this letter is a repeat,please forgive me. When I pressed the s
C(>button,I got disconnected from AOL. I don't know for sure if the previo
C(>letter was sent.

C(>     Thanks in advance!!

C(>     Chris Halladay ([e-mail])
C(>     Castro Valley,Ca
The Blue Angels are with the Navy, The Thunderbirds Fly for the Air Force.




---
 * WR 1.31 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:19 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Eklab)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: REQ:Freqs for Blue Angel
Date: 23 Oct 1995 03:29:35 -0400
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Reply-To: [e-mail] (Eklab)

I heard them today (10-22-95)  at Ellington A.F.B. TX, someone had posted
the following list & it worked great.

Demonstrations 1 - 263.350
Demonstrations 2 - 275.350
Demonstrations 3 - 307.700
Demonstrations 4 - 302.100
Maintenance Alpha - 142.000
Maintenance Bravo - 143.000
Maintenance Charlie - 141.560
Maintenance Delta - 142.025
Air-to-Air Tac 1 - 241.400
Air-to-Air Tac 2 - 245.900
Air-to-Air Tac 3 - 250.800
Air-to-Air Tac 4 - 360.400
Air-to-Air Tac 5 - 384.400
Air-to-Air Tac 6 - 391.900
Air-to-Air Tac 7 - 395.500

The busiest of these will probably be Demonstrations 2

Thanks to whoever posted this freq. list the first time around...

B.T.W. will your scanner pick up military air ???  Generally speaking only
the high end scanners do...

Have Fun !!



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:20 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Dan Warren)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Roch NY Mercy Flight Freq
Date: 26 Oct 1995 21:55:23 GMT
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Anyone know the freq of the above helicopter service. Also, an up to date list
of all Roch freq's.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:21 1995
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From: Frank Westlake <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanfan
Date: 22 Oct 1995 04:08:41 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Lines: 11
Message-ID: <46cg49$e1n$[e-mail]>

  Someone posted an article asking about Scanfan in the Southern
California area. I dont know what stores they are sold in but I
got mine from the publisher for $20.00 (that's what I sent them,
I don't know what it really cost) by writing to:

        ScanFan Publications
        P.O.Box 544
        San Marcos, CA 92079
        619/744-2303

Frank Westlake [e-mail]


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:22 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: SCANING IN VIRGINA
Date: 22 Oct 1995 11:23:36 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
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In <46dos1$[e-mail]> OAK HALL RESCUE <[e-mail]> writes:


>I WOULD LIKE ANY INFO ON FREQENECYS FOR THE NORFOLK OR VIRGINA BEACH

>AREA -- POLICE,FIRE,AIR,MOBLIE PHONES OR ANY MILITARY FREQ

Check:

http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~thharrel/scanner/localfrqs/virginia/va.html

--
- o - o     Clay Irving ([e-mail]), N2VKG
o - o o     AEC NYC ARES, New York County
o -         Deputy Radio Operator, NYC RACES, New York County
- o - -     Start --> http://www.panix.com/clay


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:23 1995
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Here is Norfolk Naval Air Station:

118.425 ATIS
341.000 ATIS
118.900 APP CON
257.300 APP CON
125.700 APP CON
395.800 APP CON
124.300 CHAMBERS TWR
126.375 CHAMBERS TWR
340.200 CHAMBERS TWR
318.700 CHAMBERS TWR
121.800 CHAMBERS GND CON
352.400 CHAMBERS GND CON
126.375 NAVY NORFOLK HELIPORT TWR
380.400 NAVY NORFOLK HELIPORT TWR
312.400 NAVY NORFOLK NORFOLK HELIPORT GND CON
125.200 DEP CON
389.900 DEP CON
120.700 CLNC DEL
348.000 CLNC DEL
6.723 (SSB) CHAMBERS ATCOM
130.650 AIR TRML
349.400 AIR TRML
268.800 BASE OPS
271.600 METRO

I'll keep your e-mail address and see whatelse I can find and send it to
you. Have fun monitoring.

--
Keith Stein

Community, Air & Space Report Editor:
http://www.newspace.com/publications/LaunchReport/LaunchReport.html

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http://www.grove.net/hmpgst.html




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:24 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Sam Dunham)
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Subject: Re: Scanner Control Software ... which is best?
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 07:41:17
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In article <46769g$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (William F. Finch ) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (William F. Finch )
>Subject: Scanner Control Software ... which is best?
>Date: 20 Oct 1995 03:50:08 GMT

>I have an ICOM R7000 ... love it ... would like more flexibility in
>storing banks of frequencies to scan ... would also like to scan by
>frequency intervals not preset by the receiver ... I see adds for
>software to control scanners. Who has experience with this subject and
>can tell me the best software to get DOS or Windows 3.1. Anyone???
>Thanks in advance ... Bill Finch

Better yet, try the DEMO copies. You can download DEMO copies of Scan*Star DOS
and Windows versions from the Signal Intelligence web site at
http://www.scanstar.com. The DEMO copies are 99% functional.

-Sam-




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:25 1995
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From: Brian varine <[e-mail]>
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Yesterday the City of Portland had the revenue enhancement patrol out in
the form of the Gatso-radar Photoradar device. It was up in the 10000
block of Capitol Highway, it sits inside a white Mercury Villager.


==============================================================================
Brian R. Varine <[e-mail]>

He who owns the electromagnetic spectrum, owns the battlefield!
When in doubt, JAM IT!!!!

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:26 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Marco Ciocca)
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Subject: Sportcat 150:New Antenna?
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I just bought my first scanner, a  Uniden Sportcat 150.  So far I am pretty
happy with it (I have very limited experience in the matter...), but I was
thinking of upgrading its antenna.  I wouldn't want to hassle with a
rooftop one, just another whip of better performance.
I read of one "condor" antenna from Austin (I think.  The catalog is at home
and I am at work.). Has anybody any experience with that type of antenna.?
Does really improve reception, or I would be wasting the 30-35 $ it cost?
Any real life experience would be appreciated.
Thanks
Marco Ciocca


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:27 1995
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In article <46o5nk$[e-mail]>,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Can anyone advise what size the step increments shud be in scanning
>cellular phone freqs (its legal in canada).
>also, what size increments for uss.

30 KHZ in both cases.


--
Mike Schuster       |        [e-mail] | [e-mail]
------------------- | [e-mail] | GEnie: MSCHUSTER


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:28 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Jon Rosario)
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I'm planning to get a new scanner or used one. Can you guys suggest a
particular model or make for a newbie, that's a beginner. Also, is it legal
to have a scanner in California and do I need a license?
Appreciate any info.

[e-mail]



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testing 1 2 3


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Tesing 1,2,3 also.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:30 1995
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on radio privacy
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[e-mail] (Mike McCarty) wrote:
>In article <466vc0$[e-mail]>, D Stark  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>)   According to The American Heritage Dictionary, the word
>)"broadcast" means:
>)
>)"1. To transmit by radio or television.
>)2. To make known over a wide area.
>)3. To sow over a wide area; scatter."
>)
>)  This is what happens with ANY radio signal, not just
>)commercial TV and "broadcast" radio stations.  When you use
>)a two-way radio, you are "broadcasting" in the strictest
>)sense of the term.
>)
>)  Therefore, I stand by my contention that an unencrypted
>)radio signal cannot be "private" because it has been
>)"broadcast" by radio.
>)
>)73 de Dave, NF2G
>
>So broadcast means to cast seeds. What has that got to do with this
>discussion?
>
>I am not the one who does not understand the meaning of the word
>"broadcast" when used in a legal sense in reference to radio
>transmissions, you are.
>
>If you are going to use a technical word, then you need to use the
>technical definition. And the FCC defines it to be an intentionally
>one-way transmission. So when talking about what transmissions may be
>intercepted, recorded, repeated to others, etc, this is the ONLY
>definition.

   The FCC definition is not "technical", it is "legal".
There is a big difference between the legal definition of a
term and what it actually means.  That is the whole problem
with ECPA and its related legislation.

   The word "broadcast" still means what it has always
meant, despite the attempts of Congress and the FCC to
define the laws of physics and nature.

>intercept, based on an uninformed belief that all transmissions are
>broadcasts.

   It is the legislators who are uninformed, not those of
us who actually USE the technology and understand what is
really happening.

>Ham radio operators are PROHIBITED from broadcasting. Some ham please
>confirm this so I won't have to listen to more ill-informed persons
>complaining about this.

  I am an Extra class ham operator and have been licensed
for 14 years, thank you very much.  I understand that we
cannot violate the LEGAL definition of broadcasting
(actually, I believe the phrasing in Part 97 refers to
"one-way transmissions" - the word "broadcasting" appears
in ARRL summaries of the rules).

>Oh, and Mr. Stark, please get a copy of CFR 47 and read it. Your library
>probably has a copy.

  Already have.  I also have a copy of Title 18 and other
miscellaneous regulatory junk.

   The law says, in effect, that if you don't INTEND to
"broadcast" your unencrypted analog radio traffic, then it
is legally "private".

   The real world demonstrates that, regardless of the
sender's INTENT, any unencrypted analog radio transmission
has been "broadcast" (in the dictionary sense) and cannot
be "private", any more than yelling your message across the
street is private.

   No more legislative hair-splitting, please.  "We've had
enough of this already."

73 de Dave, NF2G




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:32 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
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D Stark ([e-mail]) wrote:

: [e-mail] (Mike McCarty) wrote:
: >In article <45ueer$[e-mail]>, D Stark  <[e-mail]> wrote:
: >
: >When I first started reading this, I thought I agreed with you. But
: >then I realized that you did not understand the meaning of the word
: >"broadcast", and began to disagree. The term "broadcast" means to use
: >one-way transmission intended for general reception. TV Transmission
: >stations, and Commercial Radio stations broadcast. The transmissions
: >between portable telephones and the base stations are not broadcast.

:    I don't think I'm the one who misunderstands the word
: "broadcast".

:    According to The American Heritage Dictionary, the word
: "broadcast" means:

: "1. To transmit by radio or television.
: 2. To make known over a wide area.
: 3. To sow over a wide area; scatter."

:   This is what happens with ANY radio signal, not just
: commercial TV and "broadcast" radio stations.  When you use
: a two-way radio, you are "broadcasting" in the strictest
: sense of the term.

The last time I checked, "broadcasting" was not an exchange in
transmissions at all - it refers to a one-way transmission.  "Broadcast" is
usually replaced with the word "transmit" when talking about two-way
communications.  If you are talking about many "transmissions" they are
in fact not readable over a "wide area" like you so imply.  Even
continuous transmissions by microwave link could hardly be referred to as
"broadcasts".

Case in point.  In my country it is illegal to "broadcast" on amateur
radio.  Clearly, this doesn't mean that you can't "transmit".

:   Therefore, I stand by my contention that an unencrypted
: radio signal cannot be "private" because it has been
: "broadcast" by radio.

Nonsense.

Cheers!

Andy

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:33 1995
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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:
>Mike McCarty ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>: Ham radio operators are PROHIBITED from broadcasting. Some ham please
>: confirm this so I won't have to listen to more ill-informed persons
>: complaining about this.
>
>Generally correct - but not exact. Some one-way broadcasts are allowed,
>such as code practice sessions, testing sessions etc.

"Broadcasting", as defined by part 97, is a one way communication(s)
intended for reception by the general public.  Code practice, and other
limited one way communications that are not intended for the general
public are not considered "broadcasts" under amateur rules.  They are
considered permitted one way communications.

The only time that any "broadcasting" is allowed in the amateur service
is when normal means of getting information to the general public is
unavailable (ie emergency, disaster situations).


--
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:34 1995
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Subject: Re: Thoughts on radio privacy
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In article <46e9vh$[e-mail]>,
Curtis Wheeler  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:
>>Mike McCarty ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>
>>: Ham radio operators are PROHIBITED from broadcasting. Some ham please
>>: confirm this so I won't have to listen to more ill-informed persons
>>: complaining about this.
>>
>>Generally correct - but not exact. Some one-way broadcasts are allowed,
>>such as code practice sessions, testing sessions etc.
>
>"Broadcasting", as defined by part 97, is a one way communication(s)
>intended for reception by the general public.  Code practice, and other
>limited one way communications that are not intended for the general
>public are not considered "broadcasts" under amateur rules.  They are
>considered permitted one way communications.
>
>The only time that any "broadcasting" is allowed in the amateur service
>is when normal means of getting information to the general public is
>unavailable (ie emergency, disaster situations).

Tell that to K1MAN on 14.375mhz. He regularly broadcasts and even
has guests on his show. He does it by using the loopole of broadcasting
"for informational purposes".

Forget the exact FCC wording that lets him do this.
Many have tried to get him off the air, but he is still there.



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:35 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Woody Harper)
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D Stark ([e-mail]) wrote:

:    I don't think I'm the one who misunderstands the word
: "broadcast".

You do as far as the FCC is concerned.


:    According to The American Heritage Dictionary, the word
: "broadcast" means:

: "1. To transmit by radio or television.
: 2. To make known over a wide area.
: 3. To sow over a wide area; scatter."

OK and here's how the FCC defines "broadcasting" in Part 97 section 97.3:

(10) Broadcasting. Transmissions intended for reception by the general
public, either direct or relayed.


That's how they call it and they make the rules.

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:36 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Mike McCarty)
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In article <4696n7$[e-mail]>,
Woody Harper <[e-mail]> wrote:
)D Stark ([e-mail]) wrote:

[stuff cut]

)OK and here's how the FCC defines "broadcasting" in Part 97 section 97.3:
)
)(10) Broadcasting. Transmissions intended for reception by the general
)public, either direct or relayed.
)
)
)That's how they call it and they make the rules.

Thank you, Woody. This subthread got started when I pointed out that
people use the term broadcast when they really mean transmit (using the
technical definitions, of course). This can lead to real problems when
discussing the legality of intercepting various transmissions. It is
legal to intercept, and record (for one's own use) broadcast
transmissions.

Portable (cordless) telephones DO NOT BROADCAST. They TRANSMIT.

Mike
----
char *p="char *p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}

I don't speak for DSC.         <- They make me say that.


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:37 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clive Parsons)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on radio privacy
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[e-mail] (Mike McCarty) wrote:

 > Portable (cordless) telephones DO NOT BROADCAST. They TRANSMIT.

Heh, call it what you like. I'm sure the radio signal doesn't care :-)

We can still all RECEIVE it!
--


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:38 1995
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Subject: Triple Conversion
Date: 24 Oct 1995 08:32:14 GMT
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  To put it simply, triple conversion has an extra "filter" that
blocks out most image frequencies, as opposed to dual conversion
scanners which tend to pick up more image frequencies.  The good thing
about dual conversion is that if you have a scanner that's "cellular
blocked" and it's dual conversion, you should pick up plenty of
celluar images!  This is all that the "laid-back" eavesdropper would
need, but if you're going to hook your scanner up to your computer and
do nifty things like tracking individual cars from cell site to cell
site, you'll need the full celluar spectrum.




From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:39 1995
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From: Marcelo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Triple Conversion
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Can anyone tell me what triple conversion is and what benefits it
has to the older type of scanners without it ?
Thanks! Marcelo
email> [e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Cogswell)
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Subject: Re: Trunked Radio systems and the law
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On Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:42:17 GMT, [e-mail] says...
>
>Was anyone really surprised when they read Jorge Rodriguez's article on
the
>November issue of Monitoring Times about the laws relating to trunked
>radio systems?  To summarize, there is a case the was recently decided
>(the Larry Gass case) which essentially stated that listening to a
trunked
>radio system is illegal, period.  Even just listening with a regular
>scanner.  Since the case is on appeal now, I don't know what the
>"official" status of the case law is, but I am sure someone out there
>knows better than I do.
>
>The case may be overturned on appeal, but I'm not holding my breath.  Is
>it any surprise that trunked radio systems would be the next casualty of
>the ECPA?  Next it will probably be illegal to listen to any public
>safety communications.  After that, I can only assume that our laws will
>be similar to those of Britain..."Broadcast and amateur monitoring only".
>
>Has anyone else read this article?  Any thoughts to add?  Am I blowing
>this out of proportion?

Geez, why don't they just make it illegal to listen to anything on a
scanner! Oh well, it's not like people are ever going to listen to those
laws.




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Could also be that the system is attempting to turn off an unauthorized
radio in the system. I wouldn't expect the system trying to do this day
in, day out however.

John M Morrison, Detroit, MI


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:42 1995
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On trunked radio systems, there is a control channel that
has only data on it.  This is used to control the field
radios, much like a cellular system.  Other data is probably
digital crt communications to and from police cars with
license and description (27, 28 and 29 stuff) information.
Anyhow, that's what we have here in Suburban Milwaukee.

Nels....



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In the Atlanga, GA, area, try: 956.335 and 959.89.


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HOW TO MODIFY YOUR ICOM CI-V INTERFACE TO WORK WITH THE AR8000
==============================================================

The CI-V interface employs a very common level converter chip - namely
the MAX232. On the TTL/CMOS level side of things (pins 11 & 12 of the
MAX232), the TXData and RXData lines are bridged together to make it
CI-V compatible. This single line, consisting of both TXData and
RXData lines bridged together, is fed to four mono jack sockets
providing four CI-V connection points.

To use the interface with an AR8000, the TXData and RXData lines need
to be seperated and connected to the AR8000 as two seperate lines.

Here's some more detailed info:

Find pins 11 and 12 on the MAX232 cip in the CI-V interface. On the
PCB, close to these two pins, you will see they are bridged.

Using a sharp blade or something similar, cut the track in such a way
as to "disonnect" the two pins from each other. One pin will now still
be routed to the four jack sockets while the other will be going
nowhere.

Remember that in order to use the interface as a CI-V interface these
two lines must be bridged together but to use it as an interface to
your AR8000 the two lines must be seperated. To make this switchover
easy you should to fit a switch in order to allow easy bridging and
unbridging of these two lines.

Fit a stereo mini jack socket to the CI-V interface casing.

Connect the ring and tip of the new socket to pins 11 & 12
respectively of the MAX232 chip.

Connect the ground of the new socket to pin 15 of the MAX232 chip.

If you choose NOT to fit the bridging switch mentioned above then, in
order to use the CI-V interface as a true CI-V interface you can
bridge the TX and RX lines (pins 11 and 12 of the MAX232) by simply
inserting a stereo jack plug into the newly fitted stereo socket
making sure that this jack plug has had its tip and ring connections
shorted together. I prefer the switch method because it's neater and
easier to use but it's not essential.

Once you've done all of this your CI-V interface will have had a
stereo mini jack socket and a switch added to it. The switch will
switch the interface between CI-V mode (when closed) and AR8000 mode
(when open). The stereo socket will provide a TTL/CMOS level serial
port connection with connections for Ground, TXData and RXData. This
is exactly what the AR8000 needs.

These three lines should be connected, by means of suitably made patch
lead, from the CI-V interface to your AR8000.

In my case, I fitted a stereo jack socket to my AR8000 which allows
easy connection to a Scout or to the CI-V interface.

The socket fitted to my AR8000 is connected to the appropriate three
pins (GND, TX & RX) of the existing flat flexible connector in the
AR8000.

That's all there is to it. The diagram below will hopefully make it
even clearer.



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Brian varine <[e-mail]> wrote:

>On 24 Oct 1995, Sean Flynn wrote:

>>
>>   Does anyone know any freqs the USS Constellation uses?  She is coming
>> here to Vancouver, B.C. for a liberty call and I thought it would be neat
>> to hear what sorta things she has to say.
>>
>>      Sean
>>      [e-mail]

>Well, theres a bunch of Military freqs to tune to but I can't name all of
>them. Try the VHF marine channels as they will definitely need a Pilot.
>As for ships security, try the military VHF-Low bands. Thats what we used
>in Norfolk and most Navy ships have hand helds and repeaters for the
>ship. My ship did have new Motorola HT's with an encryption feature though.
>Good news is it's not used much (too much of a pain to get the security
>weenies to figure out how to make keys). Oh yeah try the Visible Light
>Spectrum!:-) The Navy uses flashing light and flags quite a bit!

I just left the company that was contracted to do the installs on the
Navy and Coast Guard ships for the 400 mhz hand held / repeater
systems. These hand helds are used primarily during tactitcal evals
and training. I was told that the purpose for their installation was
that the bridge and other parts of the ship would be able to
communicate in the event of an attack.Since hard wire systems are
usually the first things to stop working after getting hit. They are
made by Motorola and are fairly chintze (Cheap Construction). Drop one
from waist high and their near history. I don't remember the exact
frequencies they were on since they are not marked (ON PURPOSE), but
was told that they are in the 400 Mhz range. Antenna fairly confirms
the story told. Most of the installations our company did were on
Coast Guard vessels, but their were several Navy vessels as well. I
had the opportunity to test one while they were in the shop prior to
assembly. Audio and squelch had the normal Motorola characteristics.
They seemed a little bothered by florecent lighting and the range was
fairly limited. You would have to be fairly close to hear a hand held
off repeater. The radios had four available channels accessed by a
switch located on top of the radio, as well as squelch and volume
controls. Normal Motorola grey and black features with their name on
it.

The cable used was very stiff and highly shielded. The cable appeared
to be about 1 inch in dia. and grey in color. THIS cable was the coax.

These installations occured at New Groton, Norfolk, and San Diego and
someplace in Washington or Oregon (Seattle rings a bell). These
installations took place in November 1994 - June 1995. In all, our
company did about 22 ships during this time frame. It took a crew of 4
guys about 4-5 days to complete the installation. We had several crews
doing these installations in partnership with another company (whose
name I do not remember). This was a subcontract for the Motorola
company though.

The repeaters were mounted in stainless steel cases about 3 foot by 2
foot by 1-1/2" foot. The cases were mounted to a bulk-head and not
intended to be painted. Each had mounting pads for radio repeater unit
, batteries, charger, hinged front face panel with power LEDs and
toggle switches. Key locked. A rubber flexible antenna was mounted to
the top of the unit. External power and antenna ports are also used.

Since I was the computer database manager my access to the areas, was
a little limited and information gathered was at some effort.

Anyway, you seadogs may want to check out 400 in your areas. More
especially in the ones mentioned.


Bruce Wayne Joyner, ECNE
Internet   :[e-mail]
CompuServe : 71513.131
Omaha, NE



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  Does anyone know any freqs the USS Constellation uses?  She is coming
here to Vancouver, B.C. for a liberty call and I thought it would be neat
to hear what sorta things she has to say.

        Sean
        [e-mail]



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On 26 Oct 1995, Lynn Hales wrote:

> I don't know what the US Navy is doing, but the USAF is moving most of its
> communication to the band between 406 and 420 MHz.  The system here at Wright
> Patterson is a multi-channel trunked system with everyone on (security, fire, civil
> engineers, maintenance, etc.) sharing the channels (just like 800MHz systems).  I'd
> search through the 406-410 range first.  Only reason I recommend in that range is I
> recall reading a table of AF usage (for the new trunkes systems) and they were
> almost all below 410.


Whoa there! You're talking Air Force usage! Everyone knows the Air Force
spends tons of money on fancy stuff. Not so in the Navy. There is no ship
wired for a trunked system, heck, we don't have that much traffic. Almost
all ships (at least the ones I've been on) use VHF low band (~39Mhz ).
Ships have WIFCOM (WIreless Firefighting COMmunication) systems installed
and the ship usually has leaky coax wired in so everyone can talk to
everyone around the ship. Theres also a "mutual aid" channel in case
another ship catches fire and other ships get involved. Things may be
changing, but, a trunked system is simply not needed on a ship. You're
range picking up a Navy ship will be very limited since the systems
usually never have a repeater, some ships wire an external antenna up to
the yardarm so they can talk to Pier watches etc. Traffic probably won't
be too interesting either. "OOD this is Pier Watch reporting all
conditions normal" "This is the OOD roger out."


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:49 1995
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I don't know what the US Navy is doing, but the USAF is moving most of its
communication to the band between 406 and 420 MHz.  The system here at Wright
Patterson is a multi-channel trunked system with everyone on (security, fire, civil
engineers, maintenance, etc.) sharing the channels (just like 800MHz systems).  I'd
search through the 406-410 range first.  Only reason I recommend in that range is I
recall reading a table of AF usage (for the new trunkes systems) and they were
almost all below 410.

Good Luck and let us know what you find.

Lynn Hales



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:50 1995
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In article <[e-mail]>,
Brian varine  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>Whoa there! You're talking Air Force usage! Everyone knows the Air Force
>spends tons of money on fancy stuff. Not so in the Navy. There is no ship
>wired for a trunked system, heck, we don't have that much traffic. Almost
>all ships (at least the ones I've been on) use VHF low band (~39Mhz ).


   Whoa there!  I suggest you get aboard more USN ships, particularly the
CVNs, because they're phasing in these new systems (406-420MHz) which if
I recall right, are using GE/Ericsson EDACS-type gear (i.e. trunking!).


    There was an article about it recently in one of the military comms
professional journals, & I'll try to dig it up so I can give some
particulars.

    I suppose the practicality of this system lies mostly with the cities
of Eisenhower, George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, etc. but in a
wartime situation where a DD, FFG, etc. has sustained some bulkhead
damage, many of the priority wire-based intercom circuits could be down,
whereas the EDACS system they're using has some redundancy designed into
their system.



     Tim


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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:51 1995
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HELLO:

        I would like to get a list of frequency of WDW FL. for fire ems and operations.



                                        THANKS
                                    JOHN FLEMING


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HELLO:

        I would like to get a list of frequency of WDW FL. for fire ems and operations.



                                        THANKS
                                    JOHN FLEMING


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:52 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Tarabocchia )
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Subject: Where can I find frequencies
Date: 24 Oct 1995 17:01:59 GMT
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        I need frequencies for the NJ Bergen County Area for my Pro-50
Scanner. Any books or personal favors for giving me frequency codes
would be good. E-mail me if anybody has any info on this. Thankyou


From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:53 1995
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I have version 6.0 of "The Scanman's Handbook" software program.
Is there any newer versions of this and where could I get it?


G.C.



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I monitor DEA on on ch 6 418.950 which is our local repeater and on
418.750 which is nationwide ch 3 simplex.. I'm hearing what appears to be
tone bursts.. as if a mic is keyed and a burst of data is sent.. this
happens over and over about 5 times with no audio.

Is anyone else familiar with this.

I have been hearing agents talking about.. a new "ACARS" radio system
which sounds like they are talking about DVP..  but I don't know what
acars stands for.  and I'm not even sure that's the correct acronym.




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In article <46hvcp$[e-mail]>, Robert Barker <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I monitor DEA on on ch 6 418.950 which is our local repeater and on
>418.750 which is nationwide ch 3 simplex.. I'm hearing what appears to be
>tone bursts.. as if a mic is keyed and a burst of data is sent.. this
>happens over and over about 5 times with no audio.
>
>Is anyone else familiar with this.
>
>I have been hearing agents talking about.. a new "ACARS" radio system
>which sounds like they are talking about DVP..  but I don't know what
>acars stands for.  and I'm not even sure that's the correct acronym.

The newest trick is OTAP (Over The Air Programming) for the DVP/DES keys.
There is also an ID for the radio. Everytime you hear a transmission
there should be a data burst at the beginning. When they re-do the keys,
you will hear longer transmissions and from the base, then the mobile,
back and forth. DEA and Customs are using it here.

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From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:46:56 1995
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I'm getting the same thing with DEA in Yuma, AZ. Mostly on 419.225. I
haven't a clue what it is though.


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From: [e-mail] (Nathan Ryan Gingras)
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Please mail to [e-mail].
I'm also interested in DX-150, DX-160, DX-100, and Panasonic RF-4800, RF-4900

thanks,
Nate, KB9LSX


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Stillinger)
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Clive Parsons ([e-mail]) wrote:
: [e-mail]  wrote:
:  > I have an extensive frequency database and will de a frequency search for
:  > a particular city, stte or particular user group. I usually archive the
:  > database off line to tape and only put it on-line when I actually need to
:  > use it so I can save on disk space!!

: I live near RAF Northolt, England (7 miles from Heathrow). Yes, I know, there are
: hundreds of frq's for this area ;-/

: What have you got then? (Getting ready for a big download ;-))

: Cheers!

: Clive.

: PS: Don't bother posting frq's outside 25-1300MHz, unless they are _really_
: interesting.
: --

I would like frequency's for Lakenheath and Mildenhall.

-js


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From: [e-mail] (RON)
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[e-mail] (Tim Tyler) writes:

>Brian varine  <[e-mail]> wrote:


did either one of you ever pull duty on CVA-64 ?

             Ron  ( CVA-64  1965-1968)



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From: [e-mail] (BARRY GOLFETTO)
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Subject: BC2500XLT
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Hi
        I have been following this conference for about a month. I have
a Bearcat 2500XLT. I was wondering if you know about any mods or keyboard
tricks for this unit.

        Wish List

        -Disable the automatic shut off for battery low.
        -Keystrokes/mod to keep the display light on for more than 15 seconds
        -global frequency erase.
        -turn on scanner without "turbo Scan" enabled.

        Thanks for any condsiderations.

                                Barry
                                [e-mail]
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: [e-mail] (Peter F. Ferris)
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Summary: Carl Huben's fine software for DTMF decoding ala Mac
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Hello Warren, et al!

In article <46rmrc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Warren Leach)
writes:
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
> > Is there such an application for a Macintosh? Thanks for any info.
>
> I got "Touch Tone Decoder 2.0" off the net written by Carl Huben.
> Lost his e-mail address.
> Here's the snail mail I sent my $25 registration fee to:
>
>            6929 Lee Crest Drive
>            West Bloomfield, MI 48322


I have "[e-mail]" as a e-mail address for Carl.  Your
street address matches the one I have.  Best $25 I ever spent on software!

73 de Pete, N5KBD


Peter F. Ferris
[e-mail]

Win95 = Mac89



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From: [e-mail] (Ll pix)
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Subject: Re: Trunked Radio systems and the law
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The asshole judge had his mind made up before Mr. gass stepped foot into
the courtroom.
When citizens can no longer monitor, Goverment is no longer by the people
for the people, but by the government for the gov. etc.


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From: [e-mail] (Ll pix)
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There is usually a different mentality between Police & Fire Dept.
Fire = Let me show you what we have & how it works.
 Police = It's ours and it's none of your business. We don't know & if we
did we would not tell you.


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Sounds good
Good & expensive. Now you would still hear all the other traffic and it
would be difficult to discern & follow as most major municipalities have
30- 50 cahnnels.


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From: [e-mail] (RAllen8184)
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Hello;

I'm listening to a BC700a at the moment, and I picked it up because the
local K-fart was closing them out at 79 bucks a pop. I bought two. These
usually retail for about 190 bucks, and I wouldn't pay that much. It has
nice audio, and 800mhz capability, but in all actuality, this is not a
scanner I would recommend buying at that price. Why? The 700a is basically
a pre-programmed unit, for lazy people who don't want to invest the time
to program their scanner. There are 50 channels you can program, but they
are not in the same frequency banks. There is also no direct entry
available on this scanner, and that really sucks. You should buy a direct
entry fully programable scanner, with as many channels as you can afford.
I'd say no less than a hundred. That seems like alot, but believe me, if
you get into scanning at all, you'll need them.

You might post as to what you will use your scanner, for? Is it for your
vehicle, or your  home? For instance,  a BC 860xlt base unit is only
149.00, yet has 100 programable channels, and 800mhz. It all depends on
what bells and whistles you want, and how much you are willing to spend.
Do you want a reliable Chevrolet, or a top of the line, tricked out
Cadillac. Hope this helps, and not confuses you.

Rich


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From: [e-mail] (Lou Milrad)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: $475 for Yupiteru MVT 8000 all-mode scanner
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The MVT 8000 is a brilliantly designed angled front panel, 200 channel
ac/dc scanner. It has a mounting bracket for mobile use and comes with a
cigarette lighter adapter although it can be hard wired. I use mine as a
desktop unit in my office.  Due to its small footprint, it occupies very
little space on my desk.
It covers 8 Mhz to 1300 Mhz and receives in WFM, NFM and AM. Frequency
steps are 5,10,12.5,50 and 100 Khz.  It's got a 10 band search function,
pass memory function, and other goodies found in high-end scanners.
Although seemingly assigned on the front panel by preset factory settings,
searches are categorized  to conform to channel numbering as follows:
Channel No.        Band

1                        FM
2                        Air V
3                        Air U
4                        Ham V
5                        Fire
6                        Marine
7                        Police U
8                        Ham U
9                        MCA
10                      PRNSL (903.0375-904.9875)
Of course, you can change factory settings. It also has a battery save
function.

                                                                    $475.00
US plus shipping
--
Lou Milrad
VE3TRY
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (DW49320)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Regency MX-5000 Mod, etc. info wanted
Date: 28 Oct 1995 22:01:44 -0400
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I've had this radio for some time now and given its limitations, it has
performed well.

Does anyone know of any mods (besides scan speed, thanks to all) for this
radio?

I would also like a schematic for it if anyone has it.  Even the diagram
for a similar design would be helpful.

                                               Thanks to all,
                                                Dennis Wade  KG6ZI

By the way, this is my 1st post to this group.  Is it necessary to also
post to alt.radio.scanner?  What is the difference, if any?   Tnx


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From: [e-mail] (Larry Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: LAPD Switching to 800mhz?
Date: 29 Oct 1995 00:08:19 GMT
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In article <46s1hl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>
>I seem to have heard some rumor too about that, but I'm really
>unsure.  I know the LAPD now uses some digital units for
>communications that they want more secure (like drug surveilance).
>But if they go to 800 mhz, or totally digital, I think it might
>be quite a while.  The reason I think so, is I assume you live
>in the L.A. area.  Obviously you know L.A. County and L.A. City
>are broke.

The LAPD is going to change to a new communications system that has
been bought and paid for by a bond issue passed by L.A. voters a few
years ago.

The system uses Motorola Sabre radios and will broadcast in the 484 MHz
range. The radios have the ability to transmit digitally, but it is
unclear at this point how much will be "in the clear".

I am on a local (L.A. Area) scanner radio board, and one of the other
guys on the board works for the LAPD as a radio technician. In addition
to the foregoing information, he said that the FCC is threatening to
take away the new LAPD frequencies if the PD does not start using them
soon. So, he expects more and more to move to 484 Mhz soon.

-Larry



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>: It is embedded in the Ku-band downlink via TDRS, your bet
bet is to get a satellite dish and tag into the NASA select
rebroadcast.

DKM


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From: [e-mail] (Tom Miller)
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Subject: RE: THOUGHTS ON RADIO PRI
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How can such a nonsensical law only cared about by cellular & cordless
phone manufacturers be enforced? If someone wants to explain to me how,
I'll listen. The FCC doesn't give a damn, and they don't even have the
manpower needed to try to enforce it. The law is a total waste of time &
taxpayers dollars. Prove me wrong.
73's.
Tom Miller
[e-mail]

... URA Redneck if you think BMW is the call letters for a radio station!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: Need info on no-name scanner.
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Alan Corlin ([e-mail]) wrote:

: I need some help with a "mystery" scanner. The scanner's frequency range is from

: 26-520MHZ. There is no name on it. On the rear of the unit is the standard FCC

: Type Accepted tag that reads.   FCC ID:BGL9DMSX-400

:                                 J.I.L

:                                 MADE IN JAPAN

JIL = Jutan International Limited

JIL often sells electronic equipment under the names of: Citizen,
Strauss, Concerto.  They also mass produce stuff that is private labled
by department stores like Sears and Radio Shack.

As a rule of thumb, their products are second and third rate - but that
may not be the case with this unit at all.

They are big in Toronto here and have warehouse sales just before
christmas and sell microwave ovens for 50$ and cheap walkie talkies for
15$ etc.

I don't buy any of their equipment because it is of such low quality.
The fact that your unit was made in Japan is rare and could possibly
indicate it's better than the rest of their stuff (which is made
mass-production style in other Asian countries).

Cheers!

Andy

 --------------------------------------------------------------
 : Come play Realms of Despair! telnet://realms.game.org:4000 :
 --------------------------------------------------------------


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From: BigToe (BigToe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Albq. Center Freq.
Date: 29 Oct 1995 06:41:29 GMT
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I'm looking for the Albq Center freq and other aviation stuff. I'm in
Glendale, Arizona, just 15 miles from Luke Airforce Base, so any of
those would be great.
Thanks!

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  Jesus christ none of you are correct!!!!
As for the last post, there are no "mobile-to-mobile" calls eg: the
phone does not transmit directly to the other cell phone. It must go
through a cell site, then retransmitted from a cell site to the other
cell phone.

  Here's the facts and listen up so we can kill this thread!:

  There are two frequencies in use for the voice transmissions of a
cellular phone call.  1. The cell site  2. The cell phone.
If you are listening to the cell site freq., then you will hear BOTH
sides of the conversation.  If you are listening to the cell phone
freq., you will only hear ONE side of the conversation, which is the
person talking on the cell phone.



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<C>NetMsg #: <[e-mail]>


<C>From: craig todd gafah <[e-mail]>
<C>To: ** ALL **





<C>On 25 Oct 1995, Mahesh Neelakanta wrote:

<C>> Does anyone know the keypad combination to unlock the cell bands
<C>> on the Radio Shack Pro-51?
<C>>
<C>> thanks,
<C>> mahesh
<C>>
<C>>
<C>A keypad combo to unlock cellular bands on the Pro 51?  I wish it was
<C>that easy.
<C>

<C>-*- Sent by NetACCESS: Easy-to-Use Internet E-mail & Usenet Newsgroups!


IT is that easy. a few key strokes hold them down turn it on and presto.
It loads test freq.s all you would need to do then is set up search
limits.  The MOD is in a a file somewhere I will find it and post it for
you.


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From: [e-mail] (ZaaX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: AOR AR1000 operating tips wanted
Date: 29 Oct 1995 09:34:03 -0500
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A friend of mine recently purchased a AR1000 and I thought that I'd ask
around
to see if anyone has any good operating tips for this rig. Any help with
this
will be greatly appreciated!

73
Zack
N8FNR


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO 2035 + PRO 2042 DO GET CELL!
Date: 29 Oct 1995 11:14:51 GMT
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Brett Duane ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <45g3ng$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
: >
: >The reason I ask is that I have the PRO-2035 and although the catalog
: >indicates that it
: >uses triple conversion, the user manual appears (based on my very limited
: >knowledge) to suggest otherwise.  Nowhere in the manual are the words
: >_triple_ or _conversion_ to be found.  In fact the specification page
: >shows the following IF frequencies:  the 1st IF is 609.005 - 613.5 MHz and
: >the 2nd IF is 48.5 MHz.

You should find another entry somewhere that says 3rd IF 455 kHz.

: This is the description of a triple conversion receiver.
: RF -> 1st IF       first conversion
: 1st IF -> 2nd IF   second conversion
: 2nd IF -> audio    third conversion

This is wrong. You are describing a double conversion receiver. The step
from the final IF to audio is detection, not conversion.

: >All this creates another question.  Given the IF frequencies for the 2035
: >how does one
: >compute 1105 to 1115 MHz as being the area where one would get cellular
: >images?  My first scanner had an IF of 10.7 and determining if a received
: >frequency was an image was pretty straight forward.  Double the IF to get
: >21.4 and add or subtract that value from the received frequency.  Does
: >this formula not work for triple conversion scanners?

It would work, but the signals are likely to be very weak - since they are
so far from the cellular band.

The calculation would be approximately:
610*2 - 860 = 360 Mhz.  The sum of the two is much too high.

Bill


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
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Subject: Re: CHEEK3 - THE ULTIM <CONT>
Date: 29 Oct 1995 11:22:09 GMT
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Blake Bowers ([e-mail]) wrote:

:  AM> dB were good but were incomplete.  This is totally believeable
:  AM> given Cheek's "TV Antennas Have Gain" nonsense on the FidoNet
:  AM> Scanradio group.  Although I enjoy working with spreadsheets

: You know, it is funny just how much you hate Bill.  Enough to spend
: inordinate amounts of time, and pouncing on such trivial bull, just
: to that you can attempt to make your case.

Yep, and Andy is wrong about TV antennas to boot. My tower mounted
yagi shows very distinct directional patterns, and you don't get
them with a unity gain antenna.

For that matter, just about any antenna has gain over an isotropic
reference. Because of the multiple elements, a TV has quite a bit
of gain over a dipole reference.

Bill


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I just purchased a 200XLT from a pawn dealer and he did not have the
manual for it.  I sure would like to find some help working the scanner.

..would really appreciate some scans of the manual or some instruction
on how to work the keypad.  I have figured out VERY basic input
procedures but not much luck the 'search' button. :-)

A frequency range table would also be nice -- essentially anything your
average techno gadget freak like me would be interested in.

Thanks!

        [e-mail]





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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radios
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Date: 29 Oct 1995 11:42:22 GMT
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Jmmorrison ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Could also be that the system is attempting to turn off an unauthorized
: radio in the system. I wouldn't expect the system trying to do this day
: in, day out however.

On trunked radio systems, there is a continuous data stream going out on
the control channel. It tells the handhelds which channel to monitor for
frequency changes for transmissions directed to the chosen talk group.

If an unauthorized radio does not transmit, there is no way for the trunked
system to know it even exists.

Bill


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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Triple Conversion
Date: 29 Oct 1995 11:56:57 GMT
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Marcelo ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Can anyone tell me what triple conversion is and what benefits it
: has to the older type of scanners without it ?

It has three intermediate frequencies. The first IF is in the hundreds
of megahertz range, rather than around 11 MHz.

This means that any images are far outside the passband of the circuitry,
and will be very weak or nonexistant.

Bill



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From: rccons![e-mail] (Rick Christian)
Date: 29 Oct 95 12:12:00
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: EF Johnson Trunking Systems
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X-FTN-To: [e-mail]

27 Oct 95 15:49, [e-mail] wrote to All:

 d> I understand the data is on all the channels but is there anyway to
 d> know which channels are in which system?  I have been using the LTR
 d> decoder and have found a about 40 specific frequencies using LTR but I
 d> can't tell which sets of frequencies make up a which system.

You should look into one of the various FCC data sources around to find out the
frequencies licensed to each SMR.


Rick Christian, AAJP/BSEE
PCO Peters Twp. P.D.
Internet:rccons![e-mail]

... Why do 7-11's have locks if they're open 24 hrs.


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From: [e-mail] (Gary Belt)
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Subject: Re: Radio Shack DX-394
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Bob:
        I posted a similar note & received a few responses. One stated
that he heard it was a remake of the Drake R-8.  Another stated the radio
should be making its first appearance in November.  I also am very
curious; looks like a nice radio.  Keep your eyes "peeled"!



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From: D Stark <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radio systems and the law
Date: 29 Oct 1995 13:12:35 GMT
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David Crawford <[e-mail]> wrote:
>D Stark <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>What is the scannist's role in local government?  If we
>>have one, I for one would be happy to both exercise the
>>right/privilege and publicize the issue as widely as
>>possible.
>>
>>73 de Dave, NF2G
>>http://home.eznet.net/~dstark/

>The scannist's role in local public safety is to provide
>an extra pair of eyes and ears.  He or she should report

   That is my understanding of the true public service
nature of scanning.  It has nothing to do with "checks and
balances" but instead is an act of community service.

>fires, suspicious activities, pursue DUIs, ect.  Law

   The only words in your entire post with which I take
issue are "pursue DUIs".  No private citizen should become
THAT involved.  Leave pursuit and apprehension to the pros.

73 de Dave, NF2G




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[e-mail] (Bill Nelson) wrote:

>On trunked radio systems, there is a continuous data stream going out on
>the control channel. It tells the handhelds which channel to monitor for
>frequency changes for transmissions directed to the chosen talk group.

   This is only true of Motorola and older GE systems.
There are several systems (Uniden, new GE, Midland,
Johnson) that work without a constant control datastream.

73 de Dave, NF2G




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Subject: Re: Help Needed
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[e-mail] (bill newman) wrote:
>I can use some help. I am working on a freq. listing for the western and
>central New York State areas. If you have any information that you can
>help me with please e-mail me. All contributions will be acknowledged in
>the book as well as to people that contribute large amounts of
>information will get a copy for free upon publication.

Why reinvent the wheel?  There are already two locally
written books that cover western NY.

Jim Sutton, N2OPS publishes a guide to the 16 or so western
counties, and I am the Editor/Author of Scanner Master's
"Upstate New York Guide".

What have we left out that you need in a scanner book?

73 de Dave, NF2G




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From: [e-mail] (Mike Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap
Subject: WTB: Motorola UHF Minitor II
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 13:24:57 GMT
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Looking to buy Motorola Minitor II UHF.  Need paging model, not carrier squelch
only.  Do not need charger.  Has to cover the 460-470 mhz range.  Must be in
good and original condition, no alterations.

Email direct to:

[e-mail]       or
[e-mail]

Thanks,

Mike Cooper                   302-451-3741 days



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From: B Hogg <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Price for Pro-2026
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 15:24:09 -0600
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Found a brand new Pro-2026 at Rat Shack.  Price is marked down.  How much
should I pay?  Anyone know what this is worth?  Is this a good unit?  I
currently run a Pro-2021 and Pro-41.
Thanks

Brad H.                 |  To Boldlygo,
[e-mail]    |  Where no one has gone before.
                        |
                        |  By the way.  Where is Boldlygo,
                        |  and how do we get there?



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From: [e-mail] (Adam Dolde)
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Subject: Re: Popular Communication Air Travel
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 16:32:21 GMT
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I believe that it was Delta.  They said that it was a major SOUTHERN
BASED carrier.  Delta is a major player, and they're main hub is in
Atlanta, GA.  At least that was my interpretation.
-=Adam=-




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From: [e-mail] (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: Bearcat 3000xlt
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Summary: BC3000XLT vs. PRO-26 shootout
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In article <Pine.OSF.3.91.951026191426.8279A-
[e-mail]>,
craig todd gafah  <[e-mail]> wrote:


  >>There is a whole article on the Pro 26 vs the 3000xlt.
  >You can get it from [e-mail]    It costs $2 but is thorough.
  >                                     Craig

The comparison article appeared in my August 1995 Monitoring Times
column.

One correction --  I don't furnish MT article reprints,
but they are available for $2.00 each from:

      Grove Enterprises, 300 S. Highway 64 West,  Brasstown,
      NC  28902.   For  a  free catalog, call [phone].
      Telephone (orders only): [phone].

I don't receive any part of the $2.00  :-(
--

==============================================================================
Copyright 1995,  Bob Parnass, AJ9S        AMPS Wireless Development Laboratory
[e-mail] - [phone]           Bell Laboratories


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From: [e-mail] (Rayreen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: ar2700
Date: 29 Oct 1995 16:52:19 -0500
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I had this unit and I think it was the biggest waste of money ever.
I own the ar8000 and the ar2700 does not even come close.
The ar2700 has too much inside generated noise, and picks
up too much birdes. Don't waste your money like I did!!!!!
Read the review in monitoring times, I think it was the sept.
issue.


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
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Subject: Re: Cellular Scanning
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In article <46vap3$[e-mail]> [e-mail] () writes:
>From: [e-mail] ()
>Subject: Cellular Scanning
>Date: 29 Oct 1995 07:33:55 GMT

>  Jesus christ none of you are correct!!!!
>As for the last post, there are no "mobile-to-mobile" calls eg: the
>phone does not transmit directly to the other cell phone. It must go
>through a cell site, then retransmitted from a cell site to the other
>cell phone.

>  Here's the facts and listen up so we can kill this thread!:

>  There are two frequencies in use for the voice transmissions of a
>cellular phone call.  1. The cell site  2. The cell phone.
>If you are listening to the cell site freq., then you will hear BOTH
>sides of the conversation.  If you are listening to the cell phone
>freq., you will only hear ONE side of the conversation, which is the
>person talking on the cell phone.

That's not always true every case or in all locations.  There have been plenty
of times I have heard "one-way" conversations in the upper "cell" band.  The
mobile-to-mobile calls do indeed go through a cell, but they do NOT go through
the 2-4 wire hybrid or echo cancellation that a mobile-to-pstn call has to.

Steve



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Subject: Re: NC Highway Patrol Freq?
Date: 29 Oct 1995 19:15:39 -0500
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THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT!!

MUCH APPRECIATED. AND THE FREQS ARE VALID!!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Panasonic PSB Radio For Sale
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Panasonic AM/FM/VHF high analog tuning portable--operates on 4 penlights.  $ 35.00
Call John at [phone] or send E-Mail to [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Derek Buchler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Cellular Operations (was Cellular Scanning)
Date: 29 Oct 1995 20:32:48 -0500
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L> Here's the facts and listen up so we can kill this thread!:

[....Snip Happens....]

Since there are so many experts here in the r.r.s newsgroup that
understand cellular operations, I want to post a request.

My company is thinking of developing a data logging device that
incorporates cellular operation for data retrieval. This would
eliminate the need for a dedicated phone and adapter, making the device
more modular and compact.

Right now I'm in the preliminary stages of presenting the idea to the
powers that be. My question is: Does anyone know where I can get a basic
schematic of a generic cell phone, including IC's that are common to
all phones. Note, I'm not really interested in brand X or Y, since that
would probably be a copyright infringement. I just want to get a better
understanding of how the device works internally.

If anyone knows of a more appropriate newsgroup, I'll send my question
there as well.

Flame Away....

Derek (who probably owns the only non-modified modifiable PRO-43 in the
      world)

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Silas E. Cheeseman)
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Subject: Re: Scanner!
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[e-mail] (Chris Davis) wrote:

>Ok I need to now if the BearCat 145XL could be modifyed to receive 800Mhz
>also is there any way I could receive the 75.00Mhz & 200.00 Mhz??? on the
>145XL?  If anyone could let me in on this please get back to me!
> Doe's anyone have any cool freq's from NASA That I could pick up from
>Canada?? and the times also? Ok thank you verymuch....

269.800 MHz  -  Space Shuttle when it's over your local AND
transmitting.





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From: [e-mail] (Cliff Gross)
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Awhile ago someone posted power-on keyboard sequences that are not documented
in the users manual (light mode, delay time, ect).  If someone could repost
that I'd appreciate it. Thanks.


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From: [e-mail] (Jason Claytor)
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Summary: police codes
Keywords: police codes

 Where would I look to find all the police codes, and their meanings?

 Thanks alot!

 [e-mail]




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From: Bill Funk <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Albq. Center Freq.
Date: 29 Oct 1995 22:20:33 GMT
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BigToe (BigToe) wrote:
>I'm looking for the Albq Center freq and other aviation stuff. I'm in
>Glendale, Arizona, just 15 miles from Luke Airforce Base, so any of
>those would be great.
>Thanks!
>

You are welcome to come to a Radio Listener's meeting/dinner at Denny's @
I-17 & Dunlap (N/W corner) on the third Wednesday at 6:00 pm. It's an
informal gathering, and a great place to get local frequencies and keep up
on what's happening in the hobby.
The next meeting is Nov.15.
There are no dues, or membership requirements. Just come & join in!
Bill




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From: David Crawford <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Trunked Radio systems and the law
Date: 29 Oct 1995 23:05:45 GMT
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D Stark <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>fires, suspicious activities, pursue DUIs, ect.  Law
>
>   The only words in your entire post with which I take
>issue are "pursue DUIs".  No private citizen should become
>THAT involved.  Leave pursuit and apprehension to the pros.
>
>73 de Dave, NF2G
>

Sorry to disagree with you David, but we have a bad  enough
problem with DUI's that the civilian population has had to
get involved, in conjunction with law enforcement..

And it makes for some REAL interesting scanning!

(we need to take this private)

David Crawford
[e-mail]





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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radios
Date: 29 Oct 1995 23:52:00 GMT
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Bill Nelson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: : Could also be that the system is attempting to turn off an unauthorized
: : radio in the system. I wouldn't expect the system trying to do this day
: : in, day out however.

: On trunked radio systems, there is a continuous data stream going out on
: the control channel. It tells the handhelds which channel to monitor for
: frequency changes for transmissions directed to the chosen talk group.

: If an unauthorized radio does not transmit, there is no way for the trunked
: system to know it even exists.

I generally do not follow up on my own posts, but I have been informed that
the Motorola Smartzone system has the capability of logging all handhelds that
are within range. Apparently the handhelds do not need to have the transmit
key pressed for this to occur.

Bill


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From: [e-mail] (George Josol)
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Subject: AR1000 Master Freq. Reset?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 00:34:23 GMT
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Can someone tell me if there is a master frequency reset sequence to
delete all frequencies stored in the banks? I would like to start from
a clean slate in entering my frequencies. Thanks to anyone who knows.
George-




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>All Rates are for any day of the week at all times of day.
>All Rates are billed in six second increments. (30 second
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>We represent the largest carriers in the World.  By acting as
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Belgium         .31   >Denmark        .33   >Japan          .31
>
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From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:09:11 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Gunslinger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden "Beartracker" Anybody Know Anything???
Date: 30 Oct 1995 02:14:18 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>
>Once again I have seen an advertisement for the Uniden "Beartracker"
>(BCT-7) which claims to be able (among other things) to "alert you to the
>presence of any patrol unit within 3 miles - by sensing their
>communications equipment".  Anybody have any idea what signal "Any" patrol
>unit the could be monitoring???  Can any of you experts out there enlighten
>me?  Could I setup my Yupiteru MVT7100 to recieve this same signal for
>example?  Any help or info would be appreciated greatly.
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>Jim Post

It receives the signal from the officer's hand-held radio, which is set up to relay
from the mobile unit sort of like a "repeater". Maybe someone else can be a bit
more technical here.
Yes, it does have a three-mile or more range. But that also includes to both
sides as well as front to rear. You will pick up signals from the "bears" way
over in the woods somewhere, too. I am a pro trucker, and have known many
drivers who have bought them and soon sold them, because the Beartracker
causes you to jam on those brakes WAY too often, for no real reason.
ADVICE: buy a CB.
Oh, BTW, I used a police scanner in my truck for about three years almost
constantly. ONE TIME it MAY have saved me from a ticket. If that's your goal, I
repeat, buy a CB.


--
P. Thompson
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From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:09:12 1995
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From: George Kral <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: dtmf decoder from sound blaster
Date: 30 Oct 1995 03:51:17 GMT
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[e-mail] (RS2006) wrote:
> Supply an audio source such as a scanner or tape recorder that has the
>dtmf recorded on it to the line in jack on the sound blaster via 1/8th
>inch mini plug.

Hi,

I have just joined the net and posted a question re if anybody knows of
any decoding software?

Sounds like you are discussing what I might be interested in.  Can you
help re locating software?

Also, is there an archive of postings to these groups which can be
accessed?

Many thanks.

Regards,

George




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From: [e-mail] (Bill Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,phl.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radios
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D Stark ([e-mail]) wrote:

: >On trunked radio systems, there is a continuous data stream going out on
: >the control channel. It tells the handhelds which channel to monitor for
: >frequency changes for transmissions directed to the chosen talk group.

:    This is only true of Motorola and older GE systems.
: There are several systems (Uniden, new GE, Midland,
: Johnson) that work without a constant control datastream.

Hm, I don't think there is a "GE" any more. It should more properly be
called Erickson - who bought out GE's operation.

It may be true now that the data stream is not continuous. However, at
least for Motorola, one channel is assigned to control data, and does not
carry voice traffic. I believe that Erickson is the same.

Bill


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I travel to Singapore and Hong Kong regularly.  Your equipment will be
less expensive in the US.  Availability in Hong Kong is poor.  Singapore
is pretty good but nothing near to the US.  And I have yet to see any
prices better than in the US.  If you don't know what you are doing, you
can end up with less than what you want, beware.

I have both an Icom IC2GXT and the Kenwood TH79D.  I like both for what
each does.  The Icom is maybe a heavier duty unit.  (note the Icom is 2
meters only and the TH79 is a dual band)  Common problem with the TH79 is
the lack of a memory ch. lockout for scan.  But it is a good ratio.  The
Kenwood is somewhat less sensitive to pager interference than the Icom.

Advise:  Buy at home.

David, VK6VW



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Subject: Re: FREECALLS WORLDWIDE ************ CLICK HERE *************************************************
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[e-mail] (Steve Drost) writes:

>Okay, look:

>Point  |--------------------------------------------------------| You

>See how far apart they are?  Doesn't that give you a clue?  A sensitivity

Okay, look:

Steve <<<<<<<<<< Dumbass

Steve = Dumbass with a sensitivity complex, and probably some fascist
complex thrown in there.

Also, look:

Steve = dumbass with a sig that's too long.
--
           *** Paul Zaremba - Product Engineering - TDM, Inc. ****
                       Urbana, IL / State College, PA
     RF Devices, Photonics, SCoPTiC, AL/TENS, AV Processing and more....
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From: [e-mail] (Waldemar Kowalski)
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Subject: FS: Yupi MVT7100 full coverage
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I have, for sale, one full coverage Yupiteru MVT7100, considered by
experts to be the best such unit. Yes, it does get cell phones,
cordless phones, pagers, etc, although of course you're not supposed
to be listening to them...

It is in very good condition. In box, with all original accessories
other than the ac adapter, which only worked in the UK anyway, so I
left it there. Rat Shack has all sorts of adapters available - I can
arrange to get one for you, if need be. (I've always used it with
rechargeables.)

Yours for only $575+shipping. Please email me at "[e-mail]".



From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:09:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radio systems and the law
Date: 30 Oct 1995 07:19:35 GMT
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D Stark <[e-mail]> wrote:

>   The only words in your entire post with which I take
>issue are "pursue DUIs".  No private citizen should become
>THAT involved.  Leave pursuit and apprehension to the pros.
>

Dave:

I wholeheartedly agree. The simple act of owning a monitor radio (or for
that matter a cell phone, CB or Ham radio) does not in any way whatsoever
train or certify a civilian to conduct any activity that might be
considered a "pursuit" (regardless of the speed or other circumstances).


It is a personally and morally commendable for any civilian (with or
without a scanner) to report such activity to Law Enforcement. But given
that it is not  uncommon for an impaired driver to behave in an impaired
fashion, the monitoring enthusiast who should choose to "pursue" a drunk
is just as inappropriate as one who would decide to pursue a fleeing
armed felon.

.....Yes folks, I've pronounced my share of dead Good Sam's.

***If a monitoring enthusiast is concerned enough, he or she should seek
appropriate ways to assist local Law Enforcement (Reserve Officer, etc.)

Make your hobby last a lifetime by monitoring safely!

SPEAKING MY PERSONAL OPINION

-Brian Humphrey-





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From: [e-mail] (Stephen Ralston)
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Subject: Re: WHY SCAN??
Date: 30 Oct 1995 08:05:06 GMT
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wm <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>I'm not attacking anyone here i'm just wandering, why scan??
>Is there any real purpose other than to just listen in to different
>frequencys??
>
>It sounds kewl fun. I dont have a scanner but am seriously thinking of
>getting one. I just need persuasion in buying one.
>
>Is it DEFINATELY worth it??? and is a hand held better than a errr
>stationary one???
>
>purleazzz answer.
>
>Andrea

I scan there for I am!
Steve in Escondido, CA



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From: [e-mail] (Don Hamil )
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Subject: Will Spirit pagers work as rcvrs??
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I've seen the articles about the Minitor pagers being modifieable as
just plain rcvrs. Can the Spirit line do the same??

Thanks..Cal.


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On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, RON wrote:

> [e-mail] (Tim Tyler) writes:
>
> >Brian varine  <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> did either one of you ever pull duty on CVA-64 ?
>
>              Ron  ( CVA-64  1965-1968)

No way, I stayed away from the bird farms. 6000+ crew, no thanks. USS Saipan
was enough for me. Give me a CG any day (Too bad the NTU(ER) CG's are gone).


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Recently, Vic Healey, who runs an AR8000 site on the Net, posted a message
asking whether AR8000 owners wanted him to update and continue his Web site.

Please, if you own an AR8000 or are interested in them, mail Vic
<[e-mail]> and give him some support for the idea of expanding and
updating his site. It can only benefit AR8000 owners.


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From: [e-mail] (Bob Gehri)
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Subject: Re: New Buyer wants Scanner Magazine/Catalogue Info
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In article <46o71f$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] says...
>

>I am interested in any information about magazines, or articles,
reviewing various scanners.  Also, if there is any info on scanner
>catalogues.
>

Check the U.S. Scanner Publications Home page at
http://www.pacifier.com/~ussn/ for their information on their Magazine
and directories.



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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+                                       +
+  U.S. SCANNER PUBLICATIONS HOME PAGE  +
+    http://www.pacifier.com/~ussn/     +
+                                       +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The U.S. Scanner Publications  home  page
is not just another commercial home page.
You  may read selected articles form U.S.
SCANNER NEWS,  check for the  latest  FCC
License Applications, ask question of the
staff and  yes you  can even order a sub-
subscription to U.S. SCANNER NEWS.

Stop  by and look  us over.  It is  hoped
that you will like what you see.

E-Mail    [e-mail]
Webb Page http://www.pacifier.com/~ussn/




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From: [e-mail] (Peter Simpson)
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Dave Katzenmaier) writes:
>Not too many places have BC200XLT scanners left.  I found DAMARK International
>has factory serviced units at $160.00 + S/H.  They also have extended service
>plans available for them also.  Their phone number is 1 800 827-6767 and the
>item number is B-5511-200551.  It comes with case, rubber duck antenna, battery
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the order number for a BC-55XLT scanner.  They're backordered till the
end of November.  Price is $169.99
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I just purchased a AOR 1000XLT. It came with a AC adapter and
Cigarette plug adapter. Unforntunately it did not come with a manual.
So my short term question is how do you change from one bank to
another?

Scan, Bank, Prog, (Bank Number), Limit, (Bank Number), Enter.  For
instance if you wanted to scan banks 1, 2, 3, & 4 (sequential only with
the ar1000) you would press the following keys:

Scan
Bank
Prog
1
Limit
4
Enter

It's the same routine for search, too.

JTB
James Engineering


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I have a VLF Converter for sale.

It is made by Datong and converts the frequencies below 500kHz up to
28MHz. So you can tune them on any standard short wave receiver.

The converter is crystal controlled and powered from its own internal
battery or an external 10-18volt DC supply.

us$60 + shipping

[e-mail]



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> >
> >Was anyone really surprised when they read Jorge Rodriguez's article on
> the
> >November issue of Monitoring Times about the laws relating to trunked
> >radio systems?  To summarize, there is a case the was recently decided
> >(the Larry Gass case) which essentially stated that listening to a
> trunked
> >radio system is illegal, period.  Even just listening with a regular
> >scanner.  Since the case is on appeal now, I don't know what the
> >"official" status of the case law is, but I am sure someone out there
> >knows better than I do.
> >
> >The case may be overturned on appeal, but I'm not holding my breath.  Is
> >it any surprise that trunked radio systems would be the next casualty of
> >the ECPA?  Next it will probably be illegal to listen to any public
> >safety communications.  After that, I can only assume that our laws will
> >be similar to those of Britain..."Broadcast and amateur monitoring only".
> >
> >Has anyone else read this article?  Any thoughts to add?  Am I blowing
> >this out of proportion?

If a police department trunked radio system is operated under
a private land mobile service license, it is not protected by the
ECPA.  On appeal, I think a good attorney should be able to prove
that the judge step out of bounds and incorrectly applied the
federal law.  **The ECPA expressly allows for monitoring of the
private land mobile service**.  There may be state laws in question,
but I am not familiar with any details of this case.  State laws
should be overturned on the basis that all radio services are
under the sole jurisdiction of the federal government, and by
statute, the FCC.

However - what is protected by the ECPA is programming information
for the trunked system.  The proprietary hardware, software and
protocols, as well as the agencies fleet, sublfeet unit IDs are
not things that are made avaialble to the general public.  This
information is protected.  In other words, a police department
can claim protection under the ECPA if they find John Q Citizen
with a trunked radio that he has managed to have programmed with
the department's personality.  A manufacturer such as Motorola
can pursue patent and copyright litigation against someone that
creates their own software for decoding proprietary protocols and
signalling.

--
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA


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Hi

Can anybody tell me what the key marked WX is for and how it works ?


Cheers


Dave



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                  Introduction to Scanning
                    by Bob Parnass, AJ9S

  [NOTES: This article may not be reproduced in whole or  in
 part   on   CDROMS,   in   bulletin  boards,  networks,  or
 publications which charge for service without permission of
 the author.  Free distribution is encouraged.]

 This  introduction  is  intended  for  people  new  to  the
 scanning  hobby and is oriented to scanning in the USA.  It
 tells where you can buy your first scanner,  what  features
 it  should  have, where to get it repaired if required, how
 to get frequency information, and mentions  a  few  scanner
 clubs worth joining.

 The author writes a monthly "Scanner Equipment" column  for
 Monitoring  Times magazine, published by Grove Enterprises,
 but views expressed in this article are his own.


                        Why Scanning?

 Every day and night, scanner hobbyists are  entertained  by
 what  they  overhear  on  their  radios.  Police cars, fire
 engines,  ambulances,  airplanes,  armored  cars,   trains,
 taxis,  and  buses are all equipped with radios and you can
 listen to them.  You can monitor the local sheriff and fire
 departments  to  hear about events "as they happen," before
 the news reporters hear about them.  Hostage  dramas,  bank
 robberies,  car  crashes,  chemical  spills,  neighbor  and
 domestic disputes, tornado sightings are all fair game.  In
 a single afternoon, you can hear a high speed police chase,
 Drug  Enforcement  agents  on  a   sting   operation,   and
 undercover FBI agents as they stakeout a suspect.

 How about listening to  a  presidential  candidate  discuss
 strategy  with his advisor from a 415 MHz radiophone in Air
 Force 1, or a team of G-men protect him while  transmitting
 in the 167 MHz range?

 Baby monitor intercoms are actually  transmitters  and  you
 can hear them between 49.67 and 49.99 MHz.

 Stay ahead of road conditions by listening to highway  road
 crews,  snow  plows,  and  traffic helicopter pilots.  Many
 midwesterners monitor  the  state  police  and  and  county
 sheriff  to  learn  of  approaching  tornados  long  before
 warnings are broadcast on TV and  commercial  radio.   Take
 your  scanner  to  sporting  events  and listen to race car
 drivers, football coaches, etc., in the 151, 154,  and  468
 MHz ranges.

 Monitor the everyday hustle and bustle of businesses,  from
 cable  TV  repair  crews  tracking  down pirate descrambler
 boxes, to security guards at your nuclear  power  plant  or
 mall security guards chasing a shoplifter.


                     Is Scanning Legal?

 In the United States, scanning from your home or at work is
 perfectly   legal   in  most  situations.   The  Electronic
 Communications Privacy Act  of  1986  made  it  illegal  to
 listen  to  mobile phones, common carrier paging, and a few
 other types of communication.  A new law outlaws  listening
 to  cordless  phones,  too,  but  many scanners cover these
 frequencies, and it's clear that Americans still listen  to
 whatever  they  want  in  the  privacy  of  their own homes
 despite the laws.

 It  is  now  illegal  for  companies   to   sell   recently
 manufactured scanners which cover or can be easily modified
 to cover the  cellular  phone  frequencies,  but  sales  by
 private individuals will still be allowed.

 Speaking of privacy, federal law also requires you to  keep
 what  you  hear to yourself and not use the information you
 hear on your scanner for personal gain.

 Be aware  that  several  states  have  laws  pertaining  to
 scanning   while  in  your  car.   Indiana  restricts  some
 portable scanners.  A few states  have  enacted  their  own
 laws  against  listening  to cordless phones.  You can find
 out about these restrictions in a paperback book, Listeners
 Lawbook,  compiled by Frank Terranella, Esq.  available for
 $9.95  +  shipping  from  Grove  Enterprises,  PO  Box  98,
 Brasstown, NC 28902.


                 What Scanner Should I Buy?

 Radio Shack and Uniden  (maker  of  Bearcat,  Regency,  and
 Cobra brands) offer a wide choice of scanners.  Radio Shack
 scanners are actually manufactured  by  both  GRE  (General
 Research  Electronics)  and by Uniden.  Personally, I don't
 recommend Trident nor  many  of  the  AOR  brand  scanners,
 although the AR8000 and AR3000 have good reputations.

 Programmable  (synthesized)  units  have  replaced  crystal
 controlled  models  as  they  don't  require  crystals  and
 usually have a keypad that permits you to store frequencies
 into  channels.   Programmables are now so cheap it doesn't
 make sense to buy a  crystal  unit  as  your  main  scanner
 unless you get it for under $45 or so.

 You can get a battery operated hand held scanner, a  bigger
 "base"  scanner  which  is  powered from an AC outlet, or a
 mobile scanner which connects  to  your  auto's  electrical
 system.   There  are  tradeoffs -- base and mobile scanners
 have larger displays and almost always provide  more  audio
 than  portables,  and  some  portables  are  more  prone to
 interference when connected to outdoor antennas  than  base
 models.   But  when  severe weather knocks out the power in
 your home, there's nothing like having a  battery  operated
 scanner   to   monitor   the   power   utility  and  police
 frequencies!

 Make sure your first scanner:

  1.  has a "search" feature, which allows it to search  all
      the  frequencies  between two frequency limits of your
      choosing.  The lowest cost programmables can't search.
  2.  covers the 800 MHz band.  Usage of the 800 -  950  MHz
      band  is  growing  fast  and  you will miss out on the
      action unless your scanner covers this band.

 If you're not sure whether you'll like scanning, don't want
 to  spend  much  money,  a  40  channel  radio will do.  In
 general, the more channels and banks, the better.

 Most of the action takes place on  frequencies  between  30
 and 1000 MHz, so don't be misled by scanner models boasting
 coverage from 3 to 2000 MHz.  There's currently not much to
 monitor in the 1000 - 2000 MHz range.

 If you are interested in receiving  short  wave,  that  is,
 signals  in  the 3 - 30 MHz range, it's best to get a short
 wave  radio  specifically  designed   for   that   purpose.
 Although  some  scanners receive the short wave band, their
 performance in that range is often poor.

 Deluxe scanners can be controlled by a  personal  computer,
 although  this  feature  isn't  important  to  many scanner
 owners.

 Almost  all  low  and  mid-priced  scanners  are  prone  to
 receiving  images  -- receiving the same signal erroneously
 on two or more frequencies.  With a few exceptions,  images
 are  unwelcome  due  to  the interference they cause, e.g.,
 hearing aircraft transmissions while the scanner  is  tuned
 to  the  local  police frequency.  Premium quality scanners
 use "up  conversion"  circuitry,  a  scheme  which  greatly
 reduces, but does not eliminate, image reception.

 Currently,  the   more   popular   scanners   include   the
 Uniden/Bearcat  BC760XLT  (a/k/a  950XLT)  and discontinued
 Radio  Shack  PRO-2006  base/mobiles,  the   Uniden/Bearcat
 BC200XLT (a/k/a BC205XLT), BC220XLT, and Radio Shack PRO-43
 portables.  A number of owners  report  problems  with  the
 Icom  R1 portable and the older Uniden/Bearcat 8500XLT base
 and 2500XLT portable.  The new Uniden  replacement  models,
 the  BC9000XLT  and  BC3000XLT,  work  very well and are my
 current favorites.

 Considered by many as the best scanner ever made,  the  400
 channel  Radio Shack PRO-2006 has recently been replaced by
 the 1000 channel PRO-2035.  The portable Radio Shack PRO-62
 and  PRO-60 are good performers.  All four models employ up
 conversion and are made for Radio  Shack  by  GRE  (General
 Research Electronics).


                      Scanner Antennas

 All scanners come  with  a  built  in  antenna,  permitting
 reception up to about 20 miles or so.

 Portable scanners  are  supplied  with  a  helical  (spring
 shaped)   antenna,   covered  by  rubber.   The  rubberized
 antennas furnished with current models are  too  stiff  and
 place  stress  on  the  antenna jack.  Older scanners to be
 supplied with more flexible antennas.  I prefer to  replace
 the  stock  antenna  with  an  Icom FA-1433B dual band flex
 antenna which is thin and  very  flexible  while  providing
 better performance than a stock antenna.

 Although it is small  and  somewhat  tolerant  of  physical
 abuse,  the  range  of  a heliflex antenna is very limited.
 Augmenting it with a  19"  telescoping  metal  antenna  can
 improve portable reception greatly.

 Since 1988, I've used the "Thin-Stick" 18 inch  telescoping
 antenna  for  extended  range on my portable scanners and 2
 meter walkie-talkies.   The  Thin-Stick,  made  in  USA  by
 Smiley  Antenna  Co., Inc., is designed to cover both the 2
 meter and 220 MHz bands, but its variable length  means  it
 can  be  adjusted  for  optimum performance on other bands.
 What  makes  the  Thin-Stick  different  from  an  ordinary
 telescoping  antenna  is the spring between the antenna and
 the connector portions.  The spring  absorbs  most  of  the
 impact  if the antenna collides with an object.  The street
 price is  about  $17  and  it  is  available  from  Amateur
 Electronic Supply, Milwaukee and other retailers.

 Outdoor antennas, like the Channel Master 5094A or  Antenna
 Specialists  AV-801  (recently  discontinued),  can  extend
 reliable reception to 100 miles or more.  If you do use  an
 outdoor antenna, be sure to disconnect and ground it during
 storms and when not in use to  avoid  a  lightning  hazard.
 Discone and ground plane type antennas can be more prone to
 cause scanner damage due to static charge  buildup  because
 they are not at "DC ground."



                   Coaxial Cable Feedlines

 If your antenna installation requires more than 50 feet  of
 feedline,  use RG213/U or high quality RG8/U coaxial cable.
 RG213/U  has  a  non-contaminating  jacket  and  will  last
 longer.   Each  has  an  outer  diameter  of  about 13/32".
 Similarly sized Belden 9913 cable  and  clones  have  lower
 attenuation  but  are  difficult  to  bend, require special
 connectors, and can accumulate moisture inside because they
 are hollow.

 If you must use a small diameter cable for long  runs,  use
 RG6/U.   Avoid  RG58/U (7/32" OD) due to its losses at high
 frequencies.  RG8/X (1/4" OD) is suitable for  short  patch
 cords.



                 Where Can I Buy A Scanner?

 Almost every community has at least one Radio Shack  store,
 and  you  can  find  scanners there.  Discount chain stores
 like Wal-Mart, K-Mart,  Service  Merchandise,  and  Circuit
 City   sell   scanners,   but  carry  just  a  few  models.
 Department stores, like Sears Roebuck and Montgomery Wards,
 sometimes offer low end scanners, although at high prices.

 The best buys on new scanners are from reputable mail order
 radio dealers, for example:


    - Grove Enterprises, 300 S. Highway 64 West,  Brasstown,
      NC  28902.   For  a  free catalog, call [phone].
      Telephone (orders only): [phone].

    - National Tower Company, PO Box 15417, Shawnee Mission,
      KS 66215.  Telephone [phone].

    - The Ham Station, 220 N. Fulton  Ave.,  Evansville,  IN
      47719-0522.  Telephone [phone].

    - Scanner World (Albany, NY). Telephone [phone].

    - Amateur Electronics Supply (Milwaukee, WI).  Telephone
      [phone].

 Beware of inflated "shipping and handling" charges  and  be
 sure to include these when comparison shopping.

 Used scanners may  be  found  at  hamfests,  flea  markets,
 garage  sales,  or  listed  in the classified advertisement
 section of your newspaper.


                   Modifying Your Scanner

 The  term  "mod"   is   often   used   as   shorthand   for
 "modification."   If  you  are handy with a soldering iron,
 you may be interested in modifying ("modding") your scanner
 to add features or enhance its performance.  Be warned this
 usually  voids  your  warranty  and  current   models   are
 difficult  to  service  due  to the small, delicate surface
 mount  components.   By  federal  regulation,  new  scanner
 models cannot be easily modified to tune the cellular phone
 bands.

 The term "mod" has been narrowly used  by  some  people  to
 mean  a  change which permits a scanner to receive cellular
 phone frequencies.  This definition is far too  restrictive
 as there are several ways one could modify a scanner, e.g.,
 changes  to  improve  audio  quality,  adding  an  S-meter,
 expanding  the  number  of  channels, changing the earphone
 jack to accept stereo headphones, etc.

 Modification article files can be copied from  several  ftp
 sites including the /pub/ham-radio/mods directory at:


        ftp.cs.buffalo.edu (until Oct. 10, 1995)
        garfield.catt.ncsu.edu
        oak.oakland.edu (IP address 141.210.10.117)

 KD4MOJ maintains a scanner modification server  for  people
 without  FTP  access.   You  can  request a list of scanner
 modifications by sending electronic mail with the words GET
 INDEX.TXT to [e-mail]

 If you cannot find  files  describing  modifications  to  a
 particular  scanner,  it's probably because nobody bothered
 to devise a modification, or more likely, nobody has  taken
 the time to document their modification.

 Modification articles posted on Usenet seem to have a  life
 of  their  own.   Frequently, they are plagiarized from the
 Internet  and  compiled  by  book,  CDROM,   and   magazine
 publishers,  sometimes reworded, then sold.  Hobbyists then
 copy  the  modifications  from  the  books,   CDROMs,   and
 magazines  back  onto  the Internet or BBSs (bulletin board
 systems)!

 Grove  Enterprises  and   other   companies   advertise   a
 modification for fee service.


                    Scanner Repair Shops

 Is your scanner broken?  Aside  from  sending  the  scanner
 back  to  the  manufacturer  for repair, here are least two
 companies which repair scanners:

   1.  Electronic Repair Centers (telephone [phone])  -
       Several  people  have  been  pleased with good repair
       service from Electronic Repair  Centers  in  Franklin
       Park,  Illinois.  Although they are not authorized to
       perform warranty work, this outfit has been repairing
       Bearcat  scanners  for  several years.  They charge a
       flat rate of fixing scanners, and shipping is  extra.
       Electronic  Repair  Centers will fix Regency scanners
       if they can obtain the parts.

   2.  G & G Communications (telephone [phone]) -  This
       family  owned company repairs scanners and pagers and
       stocks parts for several older models.  G & G  cannot
       usually   repair   AOR   scanners   due  to  lack  of
       manufacturer support.  G & G sells and sometimes buys
       old  scanners  and  parts,  too.  They are located at
       9247 Glenwood Drive, LeRoy, NY 14482.


          Where Can I Obtain Frequency Information?

 To avoid chaos, the FCC licenses two-way  radio  users  and
 assigns  them  specific frequencies.  Groups of frequencies
 are allocated to specific types  of  users,  so  you  won't
 usually find fire departments using the same frequencies as
 taxi drivers, for example.

 Scanner enthusiasts can obtain frequency  information  from
 several  sources,  including  books,  government microfiche
 records, or other listeners.

 Books: The most convenient  source  of  fire,  police,  and
 local  government  frequencies  is Gene Hughes' Police Call
 Radio Guide, published each year in 9 regional  volumes  by
 Hollins Radio Data, and sold at Radio Shack and larger book
 stores.  The 1996 editions will contain  selected  business  |
 listings, too.

 I also recommend the book, Monitor  America,  published  by
 SMB  Publishing  (now  known as Scanner Master Publishing),
 and available from Grove Enterprises for about $30.  A  new
 3rd  edition  is  expected  in early 1995.  Monitor America
 contains several pages of police, fire,  local  government,
 news  media,  sports,  federal  government,  and commercial
 broadcast frequencies  for  all  50  states.   It  contains
 detailed  communications  system profiles and precinct maps
 for major metropolitan areas.  Police and fire radio  codes
 and  unit  identifiers  unique to local agencies are listed
 for several cities.  This differs from Police  Call,  which
 gives  a  more sterile, but uniform treatment of licensees,
 listing even the smallest of towns.

 Uniden has published several regional directories using the
 "Betty  Bearcat"  name,  although  there  are  much  better
 directories   available   from   Scanner   Master   (Newton
 Highlands, MA, tel. [phone]) for some regions.

 The  most  readily  available  source   of   sensitive   US
 government  frequencies  is  still Tom Kneitel's Top Secret
 Registry of US Government Radio Frequencies.  Published  by
 CRB  Research,  the  8th  edition  is  available from Grove
 Enterprises  for  about  $22.   Kneitel's   book   contains
 frequency listings for NASA, military, FBI, Secret Service,
 DEA,  IRS,  Border  Patrol,  arsenals,  ammunition  plants,
 missile sites, and others in the 25 to 470 MHz range.

 Tab Books Master Frequency File, first edition, written  by
 James  Tunnell and Robert Kelty, lists federal agencies and
 frequencies and deserves a read.   However,  there  are  no
 military  listings and many pages are devoted to appendices
 and references which contain no  frequency  listings.   The
 space  would  be  much  better  used  by a combined federal
 frequency list sorted by frequency.

 Commercial Magazines:  Although  national  in  circulation,
 local  frequency  information  is  sometimes  available  in
 Grove's Monitoring Times (tel. [phone]) and  Kneitel's
 sensationalistic  Popular  Communications,  (tel.  516-681-
 2922).  National Scanning  Report  is  a  national  scanner
 magazine   published   bimonthly  and  is  affiliated  with
 Uniden's Bearcat Radio  Club.   Early  issues  disappointed  |
 experienced scanner hobbyists, but it now has a good column  |
 on scanner  modifications  and  has  greatly  improved  its  |
 coverage  of east coast frequencies since merging with NESN  |
 (North East Scanner  News).   The  best  scanner  frequency
 lists  are often found in club publications, not commercial
 magazines, and are discussed later.

 Government Records: Every year, the US Government sells FCC
 license  information,  in  the  form  of microfiche, floppy
 disk, and magnetic tape,  to  the  public  through  the  US
 Department   of  Commerce  National  Technical  Information
 Service (NTIS).  The high cost of buying government records
 limits their appeal to hardcore enthusiasts.  You can write
 for a catalog of FCC Master Frequency Database items to the
 NTIS, 5285 Port Royal Road, Springfield, VA 22161.

 The FCC has an agreement with PerCon (tel. [phone]), a
 private  company,  to  sell  FCC license information to the
 public on CDROMs.  You can buy the full license information
 for  a  multi  state  region  or  a  less  detailed license
 database covering the the entire USA  on  CDROM  for  about
 $100.  The PerCon Spectrum CDROM sells for $29 and contains
 a handful of fields for every FCC license in the  US.   The
 Spring   1995  edition  works  in  DOS,  Windows,  and  Mac
 environments.

 Grove enterprises sells FCC license  information  on  CDROM
 for  $100.   In the 1995 edition, fields are different than
 PerCon's Spectrum CDROM but the data appears to be  of  the
 same vintage.  The licensee name and licensee city are used
 instead of the DBA (doing business as) name and transmitter
 city which makes query results confusing.

 As I have already done for hundreds of  radio  enthusiasts,
 companies,  and  organizations  across  the country, I will
 locate FCC licensed and selected FAA transmitter  sites  in
 an  area of your choice, in any state, and produce a custom
 RadioMap(TM) report, including  an  8-1/2"  by  11"  scaled
 color  map,  protected  by plastic.  The map is marked with
 transmitter sites,  cities,  highways,  airports,  military
 installations, national parks, etc.

 RadioMap allows you to identify antenna sites and visualize
 the  transmitter  locations in your neighborhood, near your
 office, and other places of interest --  from  VLF  through
 microwave.   The  report  lists frequencies, callsigns, and
 licensee  names.   RadioMap  covers  police,  fire,   local
 government,   TV,   business,   industry,  common  carrier,
 railroad, trucking, and  many  more  types  of  transmitter
 sites,   excluding   ham   radio  stations.   Wireline  and
 nonwireline cellular phone and AM/FM broadcast  transmitter
 sites are clearly marked using unique color icons.

 Industrial customers use RadioMap  reports  to  survey  the
 "radio  environment"  prior  to  installation of radios and
 wireless microphones at customer sites.  RadioMap  is  used
 by  the  maritime  and broadcast industries, as well as ham
 radio operators to solve  intermod  interference  problems,
 and  has  been  very  favorably  reviewed  in  RCMA Scanner
 Journal, American Scannergram, and USSN.

 The  RadioMap  processes  and  software  are   unique   and
 proprietary.   Unlike  "more tame" maps, RadioMap shows the
 locations of military bases, ammunition  plants,  arsenals,
 weapons factories, and other military installations.

 For a flat fee, you  choose  the  center  location,  and  I
 choose the range, depending on transmitter site density:

         suburbs: 5 mile range (100 sq. mi. area)
         rural areas: 10 or more miles (400 sq. mi. area)
         dense urban area: 1 - 2 mile range

 Longer ranges for additional charge - call for pricing.

 A custom RadioMap report costs $20.95 plus  $5.00  shipping
 and handling.  Send $25.95 (check or money order payable to
 Bob Parnass) for each RadioMap report, your name,  address,
 and  telephone  number, along with center location (nearest
 intersection of 2 streets, or latitude & longitude) to: Bob
 Parnass,   2350  Douglas  Road,  Oswego,  IL  60543.   tel.
 708-554-3839 6-10 PM central time.  For  a  brochure,  send
 SASE.


            Do Your Own Frequency Detective Work

 When you try listening to a frequency for the  first  time,
 you'll want to know who you're hearing.

 Although FCC rules require radio systems to identify  their
 operations   with   their   assigned  call  letters  either
 automatically or  verbally,  most  ignore  the  regulation.
 This  often makes it difficult to know who is transmitting.
 Moreover, many radios  are  now  being  placed  in  service
 illegally,   without   first  obtaining  the  required  FCC
 license.

 There  is  a  challenge  in  deriving  new  spectrum  usage
 information  on  your  own.   Sometimes it requires several
 days of  listening,  taping,  and  compiling  fragments  of
 information.   Other  times,  the  frequency information is
 there for the taking - without hassle.

 You can approach from two directions:

   1.  Listen first: Monitor a frequency or frequencies, and
       try  to determine who's transmitting and what purpose
       the channel serves.  Once you identify the user,  log
       the information.

   2.  Compile first: Take advantage of opportunities,  such
       as  examining the frequency label on a guard's radio,
       or reading the FCC  license  hanging  on  the  "radio
       room"  wall, to compile frequency lists, then monitor
       the listed  frequencies  to  confirm  that  they  are
       really  in  use.   Readers  are urged to abide by the
       rules of good taste and local laws in the  quest  for
       frequency  information.   Don't trespass, wait for an
       invitation.

 Most listeners use a combination of both approaches.

 You can examine the FCC license on premise.  I  have  found
 the  actual  FCC  radio  license,  complete  with frequency
 assignments, hanging on the walls of places like  the  mall
 security  office  or  company guard shack.  You can examine
 the labels on radio equipment.   Frequency  information  is
 engraved  on  labels on the back of many walkie-talkies, or
 inside the battery compartment, like in the Motorola  HT220
 model.   Most  pagers  have labels on the bottom or inside.
 Like passwords taped onto terminals, it's not  uncommon  to
 find labels embossed with frequencies or call letters glued
 to the front of base stations.

 You  can  make  your  own  opportunities  for  eyeing   the
 equipment  or  take  advantage  of "open house" events.  If
 information is displayed publicly, then a reasonable person
 could  assume  it's  not  government secret.  Hobbyists are
 urged  to  exercise  a  modicum  of  restraint   and   good
 judgement, however.

                   How Can I Use Equipment
                 to Uncover New Frequencies?

 If you don't know the exact frequency, but have  a  general
 idea  of the range (e.g. 150 - 152 MHz), use your scanner's
 "search"  mode.   Most  programmable  scanners  afford  the
 ability  to  search between two frequency limits set by the
 user.  A few models, like the ICOM R7000/R7100, and R1, and
 older  Bearcat  250  and  Regency K500, have the ability to
 automatically store  active  frequencies  found  during  an
 unattended search operation.

 To find the frequency of a hotel communications system, one
 fellow  installed  his Bearcat 250 in his car and parked in
 the hotel lot, leaving  the  scanner  in  the  "search  and
 store"  mode.   He  left  the  antenna  disconnected so the
 scanner  would  only  respond  to  a  transmitter  in   the
 immediate vicinity.

 Aside from a scanner and antenna, the most useful piece  of
 equipment  for sleuthing is a voice actuated (VOX) cassette
 tape recorder.  You don't need a  high  fidelity  model  or
 anything fancy, a Radio Shack CTR-82 will do.  It's best to
 use a shielded, attenuating cable to feed the scanner audio
 into  the  recorder  rather  than relying on the recorder's
 internal microphone.

 VOX recorders allow one to compress a whole day's worth  of
 monitoring  onto  a  single tape.  I often leave a recorder
 "armed" and connected to a scanner at home while  I  am  at
 the  office or doing something else.  When call letters are
 mumbled, I can play and replay the tape until  I  hear  and
 understand them.

 Test equipment can aid  in  the  quest  for  new  frequency
 information.  I've used a spectrum analyzer connected to an
 outside antenna, and a frequency counter for close-in work.


                Are There Any Scanner Clubs?

 One of the best parts of the hobby is sharing it with other
 radio  buffs.   Trading  information  with  other hobbyists
 about frequencies,  communication  systems,  and  receiving
 equipment is more valuable than any pile of magazines.

 The   world's   largest   scanner   club   is   the   Radio
 Communications  Monitoring  Association (RCMA).  Founded in
 1975, the RCMA is the  "first  national  and  international
 organization   of  monitor  radio  listeners."   There  are
 several regional  chapters  which  hold  regular  meetings.
 Club  dues  are $24.00 per year, which includes the monthly
 RCMA Journal, which consists  of  approximately  95  pages.
 Although  the  focus  is  on  VHF  and UHF ranges, there is
 coverage of HF utility stations below 30 MHz.

 Inquiries about RCMA membership  should  be  sent  to  RCMA
 General Manager, P.O. Box 542, Silverado, CA 92676, USA.


                    All Ohio Scanner Club

 A smaller club is the All Ohio Scanner Club.  Its bimonthly
 publication,  The  American  Scannergram, is about 60 pages
 long.  Although concentrating on Ohio and the  Northeastern
 states,  there  is frequency information from other states,
 and plenty of good product reviews and scanning tips.

 Annual dues are $18.50 and more  information  is  available
 from:


               Dave Marshall, Managing Editor
               All Ohio Scanner Club,
               50 Villa Road,
               Springfield, OH 45503.



          Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Association

 The Chicago Area Radio Monitoring  Association  (CARMA)  is
 the  foremost  club  for  scanner  radio  hobbyists  in the
 northern Illinois area.  CARMA was formed from the  Chicago
 chapter  of the Radio Communications Monitoring Association
 (RCMA), and we have been meeting since the early 1980s.

 Many CARMA members are active in ham radio  and  GMRS,  but
 the club is devoted to scanning and scanners.

 Meetings are held on Saturdays, many at  area  restaurants,
 about  6  times a year.  Although lunch starts at noon, the
 meetings begin officially at 1 PM and often run until about
 4  PM.  You must purchase a lunch since we get the room for
 free.  Meetings consist of a quick review of club business,
 sometimes  a  special  presentation,  and  a  "round table"
 discussion/question & answer session.  Large quantities  of
 information  and  frequency  lists are often distributed in
 the form  of  free  handouts.   Members  often  sell  radio
 equipment at the meetings, too.

 In addition  to  regular  meetings,  there  are  two  CARMA
 picnic/field  days  during  which  members  meet at a park,
 erect antennas, eat,  and  operate  scanners  from  battery
 power.   CARMA  members  take  organized  tours  of various
 communications facilities in the area.

 Club meeting dates and times are  published  in  the  CARMA
 newsletter,   published   6  times  a  year.   A  one  year
 subscription is available by mailing a $15  check,  payable
 to Kim Moran, to:


                     CARMA
                     P.O. Box 2681
                     Glenview, IL 60025

 Some  CARMA  members  participate  on  the  CARMA  computer
 bulletin  board,  run  by  Will  Sperling.   There is a $15
 annual fee for the BBS.  If you have a modem  and  terminal
 or  computer,  you  can  reach  the  CARMA  BBS  by calling
 [phone].

 Here  is  a  tentative  meeting  schedule  for  1995.   All
 meetings  will  be held on Saturdays at locations announced
 in advance.

February 18, 1995 - Westmont Police Dept.
April 15 - Winnetka
June 17 - Naperville EOC, Aurora Ave.
August 19
October 14
December 9 - Philly's Restaurant, Rt 83 & 63rd St., Willowbrook

 Bring a notebook.
--

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         HOW DO YOU FIND THESE SCANNER FREQUENCIES?

                    by Bob Parnass, AJ9S

  [NOTE: This article may not be reproduced in whole  or  in
 part   on   CDROMS,   in   bulletin  boards,  networks,  or
 publications which charge for service without permission of
 the author.  Free distribution is encouraged.]

 I am often asked, "How  do  you  find  these  frequencies?"
 Scanner  enthusiasts  can obtain frequency information from
 several sources,  including  books,  government  microfiche
 records, or other listeners.


                            Books

 The most convenient source of fire and  police  frequencies
 is  the  Police  Call Radio Guide, published each year in 9
 regional volumes by Hollins Radio Data, and sold  at  Radio
 Shack and larger book stores for under $10.  Police Call is
 basically a computer printout of FCC license information in
 the   fire,  police,  local  government,  and  conservation
 services in two lists: by licensee name within  state,  and
 by  frequency.  Later editions have included a few pages of
 local   airport   and   nonsensitive   federal   government
 frequencies.    The  1996  edition  will  contain  selected  |
 business frequencies, too.

 I highly recommend Richard  Barnett's  1992  book,  Monitor
 America,  published  by Scanner Master Corp.  A 3rd edition
 is  expected  soon  and  will  be  available   from   Grove
 Enterprises  for about $30.  This second edition is crammed
 full of police, fire, local government, news media, sports,
 national park, and commercial broadcast frequencies for all
 50  states.   The  information  was  compiled  mainly  from
 members  of  the  world's  largest scanning club, the Radio
 Communications  Monitoring  Association  (RCMA).    Monitor
 America  contains  detailed  communications system profiles
 and precinct maps for major metropolitan areas.  Police and
 fire  radio  codes  and  unit  identifiers  unique to local
 agencies are listed for several cities.  This differs  from
 Police  Call,  which  gives  a  more  sterile,  but uniform
 treatment of licensees, listing even the smallest of towns.
 A 3rd edition is expected in early 1995.

 Scanner Master also publishes regional frequency guides for
 Illinois, Florida, Virginia, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and
 other states.

 Beyond  Police  Call,  available   from   several   sources
 including  Radio  Shack,  covers the business, schools, and
 other stations not  covered  by  Police  Call,  its  sister
 publication.  One volume covers the entire USA, but no call
 signs are shown.   In  1996,  Beyond  Police  Call  may  be  |
 replaced by expanded regional copies of Police Call.

 Aeronautical frequencies are covered  in  the  Aeronautical
 Frequency   Directory,   written   by  Bob  Coburn,  W1JJO.
 Although  most  of  the  information  is   about   civilian
 aviation,   Bob   included  sections  on  military  mid-air
 refueling and CAP.  The 401 page third edition is available
 from  Official Scanner Guide.  The same publisher sells the
 Maritime  Frequency  Directory  and  frequency  guides  for
 several  New  England  states.   Some  of  these  books are
 available through Radio Shack, too.

 The  most  readily  available  source   of   sensitive   US
 government  frequencies  is  still Tom Kneitel's Top Secret
 Registry of US Government Radio Frequencies.  Published  by
 CRB  Research,  the  8th  edition  is  available from Grove
 Enterprises  for  about  $22.   Kneitel's   book   contains
 frequency listings for NASA, military, FBI, Secret Service,
 DEA,  IRS,  Border  Patrol,  arsenals,  ammunition  plants,
 missile  sites,  and  others  in  the  25 to 470 MHz range.
 Since  the  US  government  no  longer   offers   frequency
 information  for  its own stations, and has never published
 sensitive frequencies, most of the information in Kneitel's
 book  has been collected from listeners over the years.  It
 is certainly not complete, nor 100% accurate, but is a good
 book for this difficult to obtain information.

 Tab Books Master Frequency File, first edition, written  by
 James  Tunnell and Robert Kelty, lists federal agencies and
 frequencies and deserves a read.   However,  there  are  no
 military  listings and many pages are devoted to appendices
 and references which contain no  frequency  listings.   The
 space  would  be  much  better  used  by a combined federal
 frequency list sorted by frequency.

                          Magazines

 Although   national   in   circulation,   local   frequency
 information  is  sometimes  available in Grove's Monitoring
 Times    and     Kneitel's     sensationalistic     Popular
 Communications.


                     Government Records

 Every  year,  the   US   Government   sells   FCC   license
 information,  in  the  form of microfiche, floppy disk, and
 magnetic tape, to the public through the US  Department  of
 Commerce National Technical Information Service (NTIS).

 These lists contain license information for the  industrial
 (e.g.   Illinois  Armored  Car, Pinkerton's Security, Joe's
 Towing, etc.), highway maintenance,  commercial  broadcast,
 aviation, common carrier, and maritime services, as well as
 for police and fire.  For more info call NTIS  at  703-487-
 4630.

 Microfiche is not for the casual hobbyist, but  rather  for
 the  ardent  listener,  who  can easily spend a few hundred
 dollars for  the  fiche,  not  including  the  price  of  a
 microfiche reader.

 Back in "the good old days," Grove Enterprises sold  copies
 of  some  FCC  microfiche  files, and this was much cheaper
 than buying directly from  NTIS.   Grove  no  longer  sells
 microfiche,   but  sells  information  on  CDROM  for  $100
 instead.  In the 1995 edition, fields  are  different  than
 PerCon's  Spectrum  CDROM.   The licensee name and licensee
 city are used instead of the DBA (doing business  as)  name
 and transmitter city which makes query results confusing.

 The FCC has an agreement with PerCon (tel. [phone]), a
 private  company,  to  sell  FCC license information to the
 public on both floppy disks and CDROMs.  You  can  buy  the
 full license information for a multi state region or a less
 detailed license database covering the the  entire  USA  on
 CDROM  for about $100.  The new PerCon Spectrum CDROM sells
 for $29 and contains a handful  of  fields  for  every  FCC
 license  in  the  US.   It  works  in DOS, Windows, and Mac
 environments.

 Companies have appeared which are "plugged  into"  the  FCC
 licensing  system  and they sell computer time allowing on-
 line file access.  They  also  sell  paper  copies  of  FCC
 information.   Washington  Radio Reports is one example.  A
 monthly publication, it lists license applications made  to
 the  FCC.   A  few members of my scanner club subscribe and
 share the information with me.

 As I have already done for hundreds of  radio  enthusiasts,
 companies,  and  organizations  across  the country, I will
 locate FCC licensed and selected FAA transmitter  sites  in
 an  area of your choice, in any state, and produce a custom
 RadioMap(TM) report, including  an  8-1/2"  by  11"  scaled
 color  map,  protected  by plastic.  The map is marked with
 transmitter sites,  cities,  highways,  airports,  military
 installations, national parks, etc.

 RadioMap allows you to identify antenna sites and visualize
 the  transmitter  locations in your neighborhood, near your
 office, and other places of interest --  from  VLF  through
 microwave.   The  report  lists frequencies, callsigns, and
 licensee  names.   RadioMap  covers  police,  fire,   local
 government,   TV,   business,   industry,  common  carrier,
 railroad, trucking, and  many  more  types  of  transmitter
 sites,   excluding   ham   radio  stations.   Wireline  and
 nonwireline cellular phone and AM/FM broadcast  transmitter
 sites are clearly marked using unique color icons.

 Industrial customers use RadioMap  reports  to  survey  the
 "radio  environment"  prior  to  installation of radios and
 wireless microphones at customer sites.  RadioMap  is  used
 by  the  maritime  and broadcast industries, as well as ham
 radio operators to solve  intermod  interference  problems,
 and  has  been  very  favorably  reviewed  in  RCMA Scanner
 Journal, American Scannergram, and USSN.

 The  RadioMap  processes  and  software  are   unique   and
 proprietary.   Unlike  "more tame" maps, RadioMap shows the
 locations of military bases, ammunition  plants,  arsenals,
 weapons factories, and other military installations.

 For a flat fee, you  choose  the  center  location,  and  I
 choose the range, depending on transmitter site density:

         suburbs: 5 mile range (100 sq. mi. area)
         rural areas: 10 or more miles (400 sq. mi. area)
         dense urban area: 1 - 2 mile range

 Longer ranges for additional charge - call for pricing.

 A custom RadioMap report costs $20.95 plus  $5.00  shipping
 and handling.  Send $25.95 (check or money order payable to
 Bob Parnass) for each RadioMap report, your name,  address,
 and  telephone  number, along with center location (nearest
 intersection of 2 streets, or latitude & longitude) to: Bob
 Parnass,   2350  Douglas  Road,  Oswego,  IL  60543.   tel.
 708-554-3839 6-10 PM central time.  For  a  brochure,  send
 SASE.

        Federal Radio Stations - Not Licensed by FCC

 Since federal government radio stations are not licensed by
 the FCC, they are not listed in FCC microfiche.  In 1981, a
 group of 60 radio hobbyists split a $1300 fee, and obtained
 80   microfiche  cards  of  'sanitized'  information  about
 federal government radio  stations  under  the  Freedom  of
 Information Act (FOIA)1.  Only 12  of  the  21  information
 fields  for  each  station  were  furnished.   Fields  like
 "Remarks", which indicate the  exact  usage  of  a  channel
 (e.g.   "Sky  Marshall's  Net"),  and  "Bureau", indicating
 agency  subdivision  (e.g.   TAC  within  the  USAF),  were
 withheld.   These 80 pages of microfiche were sold by Grove
 Enterprises for $25, but are no longer available from  that
 source.   Private entrepreneurs have been known to ask $125
 or more for a set!  In a step backward, the  US  Government
 insists  it will no longer release this type of information
 - it is now 'classified'2.

 For  a  reason  unknown  to  this  author,  the  government
 released a 1984 vintage set of frequencies allocated to the
 FAA.  Perhaps this was a mistake, because  the  information
 is  marked  'unclassified',  but  all fields are furnished,
 including  some  which  indicate  security  related  usage.
 Grove sold this set of 33 microfiche cards for about $13.

 Two way radio equipment formerly used by the  armed  forces
 often  appears  for  sale  at hamfests.  Less often, Secret
 Service and FBI radios appear there from time to time, too.
 When  you  see  such  equipment,  look over the radio for a
 frequency label and write down the frequencies  stamped  on
 the crystals or channel elements.  Make note of any service
 or property tags which specify the agency or military  base
 which used the equipment.


                         Radio Clubs

 One of the best parts of the hobby is sharing it with other
 radio  buffs.   Trading  information  with  other hobbyists
 about frequencies,  communication  systems,  and  receiving
 equipment is more valuable than a pile of magazines.

 Since  the  early  1960s,  I  had  been  an  amateur  radio
 operator,  and belonged to amateur radio clubs, but I never
 realized there were any scanner clubs!  In 1983,  I  joined
 the  world's largest scanner club, the Radio Communications
 Monitoring Association (RCMA).

 Founded in 1975,  the  RCMA  is  the  "first  national  and
 international  organization  of  monitor  radio listeners."
 There are several  regional  chapters  which  hold  regular
 meetings.  Club dues are collected annually, which covers a
 monthly newsletter, the  RCMA  Scanner  Journal,  about  95
 pages  long.   Although the focus is on VHF and UHF ranges,
 there is coverage of HF utility stations below 30  MHz.   A
 recent  liberalization  of  club  policy  now  permits  the
 printing of most federal law enforcement frequencies, e.g.,
 Secret Service, FBI, Customs, and DEA.

 Inquiries about RCMA membership should be sent to:


                    RCMA General Manager
                    P.O. Box 542
                    Silverado, CA 92676
                    USA

 Another club which prints sensitive federal frequencies  is
 the   All   Ohio  Scanner  Club.   I  enjoy  its  bimonthly
 publication, The American Scannergram, which  is  about  60
 pages  long.   Although  concentrating  on  Ohio,  there is
 frequency information from  other  states,  and  plenty  of
 product reviews and scanning tips.

 More information is available from:


                   All Ohio Scanner Club
                   50 Villa Road
                   Springfield, OH 45503



                    Do Your Own Sleuthing

 There  is  a  challenge  in  deriving  new  spectrum  usage
 information  on  your  own.   Sometimes it requires several
 days of  listening,  taping,  and  compiling  fragments  of
 information.   Other  times,  the  frequency information is
 there for the taking - without hassle.

 You can approach from two directions:

   1.  Listen first: Monitor a frequency or frequencies, and
       determine  who's  transmitting  and  what purpose the
       channel serves.  Once you identify the user, log  the
       information.

   2.  Compile first: Take advantage of opportunities,  such
       as  examining the frequency label on a guard's radio,
       or reading the FCC  license  hanging  on  the  "radio
       room"  wall, to compile frequency lists, then monitor
       the listed  frequencies  to  confirm  that  they  are
       really  in  use.   Readers  are urged to abide by the
       rules of good taste and local laws in the  quest  for
       frequency  information.   Don't trespass, wait for an
       invitation.

 Most listeners use a combination of both approaches.


        What Makes Station Identification Difficult?

 In  most  instances,  FCC  rules  require  radio  users  to
 identify  their  operations with FCC assigned call letters.
 Police and fire departments, especially those with  trained
 radio  dispatchers,  seem  particularly conscientious about
 station identification.  Like commercial broadcasters, many
 of these stations identify on the hour and the half hour.

 Some  repeater  stations  have  Morse  code  identification
 circuits  which  transmit call letters on a periodic basis,
 insuring compliance with FCC rules.

 On the other hand, over 75% the industrial  radio  stations
 monitored  within  the last year ignore the FCC regulation,
 making it difficult for a listener to identify  a  station.
 Some   stations   may   operate   for   years   using   the
 nondescriptive  "base  to  mobile  2"  or  "Joe  to   base"
 protocol.   One  rung  up  the  hierarchy are stations that
 identify using something like "Acme base  to  107",  giving
 the  listener  a  clue  for  his  log.  If call letters are
 given, they are often rendered unintelligible by  operators
 who  fail  to  enunciate.   The failure to identify is more
 likely due to sloppiness, rather than any attempt  to  hide
 station identity.

 While not regulated by the FCC,  federal  government  radio
 stations  vary  in  the extent to which they identify their
 transmissions.  Some federal  stations  do  not  have  call
 letters.    A   nearby   paging   transmitter  periodically
 transmits a voice recording announcing, "This is  the  Army
 Joliet  Ammunition  Plant."  What more could a listener ask
 for?

 Aside from a scanner and antenna, the most useful piece  of
 equipment  for sleuthing is a voice actuated (VOX) cassette
 tape recorder.  You don't need a  high  fidelity  model  or
 anything  fancy.   I  use  two  modified Radio Shack CTR-75
 recorders, a discontinued model.

 VOX recorders allow one to compress a whole day's worth  of
 monitoring  onto  a  single tape.  I often leave a recorder
 "armed" and connected to a scanner at home while  I  am  at
 the  office or doing something else.  When call letters are
 mumbled, I can play and replay the tape until  I  hear  and
 understand them.

 The following examples illustrate techniques I've  used  to
 derive new frequency information.



             Examine the FCC License on Premise

 I have found the actual FCC radio  license,  complete  with
 frequency  assignments, hanging on the walls of places like
 the Bell Labs security office and the guard shack at  Waste
 Management's Greene Valley Landfill in Naperville.



            Examine the Labels on Radio Equipment

 Frequency information is engraved on labels on the back  of
 many  walkie-talkies,  or  inside  the battery compartment,
 like in the Motorola HT220 model.  Most pagers have  labels
 on  the  bottom  or  inside.   Like  passwords  taped  onto
 terminals, it's not uncommon to find Dymo or  P-Touch  tape
 labels  embossed  with frequencies or call letters glued to
 the front of base stations.

 You  can  make  your  own  opportunities  for  eyeing   the
 equipment  or  take  advantage  of "open house" events.  If
 information is displayed publicly, then a reasonable person
 could assume it's not government secret.

    - At the annual Glenview Naval Air Station open house, I
      examined  a  military  manpack  radio  being  used  by
      dispensary paramedics.  The radio's  tuning  dial  was
      set at 34.15 MHz.

    - The Illinois Army National Guard displayed two armored
      personnel  carriers  at  the  local  county fair, each
      equipped with VHF-FM and HF-SSB transceivers.

      In addition to a  tuning  control  (VFO),  the  VHF-FM
      radio  had  a  set of channel select pushbuttons, much
      like those in a car radio. I asked a guardsman  a  few
      questions  about  the  radio,  and he demonstrated the
      channel preset feature.  A  panel  above  the  channel
      pushbuttons  was labeled with the frequencies: 32.055,
      34.45, 35.35, 40.55, and 40.60 MHz.

    - An Army National Guard UH1 helicopter was displayed at
      the  Marseilles  armory  "open house".  The public was
      permitted   to   climb   aboard,   and   observe   the
      instrumentation  and  radio  gear.  A channel plate on
      the   instrument   cluster   listed   over   a   dozen
      frequencies.

 Hobbyists are urged to exercise a modicum of restraint  and
 good judgement.  In New Jersey, a radio technician/hobbyist
 called to service  a  transmitter  in  a  county  building,
 noticed  a new unattended repeater installation in the same
 room.  Being curious about what frequency this repeater was
 on,  he opened the access door to copy the frequencies from
 the  radio's  crystals.   It  turns  out  that  this  radio
 belonged  to  the US Secret Service, and opening the access
 door could have activated a "tamper alarm"!

 The  tech  was  skating  on  thin  ice.   He  had  nobody's
 permission to tamper with that equipment.

 Another source of frequency information is as close as your
 nearest  Radio Shack store.  Some Radio Shack stores make a
 local frequency list  available  to  assist  their  scanner
 customers.   Be  sure  to  ask.  Stores located in shopping
 malls almost always know the mall security frequencies.   I
 often check the frequencies programmed into the floor model
 scanners, too.



           Equipment to Determine Frequency Usage

 If you don't know the exact frequency, but have  a  general
 idea  of the range (e.g. 150 - 152 MHz), use your scanner's
 "search"  mode.   Most  programmable  scanners  afford  the
 ability  to  search between two frequency limits set by the
 user.  Some models, including  the  Radio  Shack  PRO-2035,
 ICOM  R7000/R7100,  Bearcat  2500XLT, and Bearcat 250, have
 the ability to automatically store active frequencies found
 during an unattended search operation.

 To find the frequency of a hotel communications system, one
 fellow  installed  his Bearcat 250 in his car and parked in
 the hotel lot, leaving  the  scanner  in  the  "search  and
 store"  mode.   He  left  the  antenna  disconnected so the
 scanner  would  only  respond  to  a  transmitter  in   the
 immediate vicinity.

 Test equipment can aid  in  the  quest  for  new  frequency
 information.  I've used a spectrum analyzer connected to an
 outside antenna, another spectrum analyzer connected  to  a
 receiver  IF  stage,  and  a frequency counter for close-in
 work.


               How Can I Determine To Whom I'm
                   Listening? - An Example

 While scanning the industrial frequencies in  the  150  MHz
 range, a van driver was overheard communicating with "base"
 while driving around my town.  The stations involved  never
 used  FCC  call  signs  --  this would have made life a lot
 easier for me, and legal for them! (one may use FCC license
 microfiche,  described  earlier, to identify stations using
 call letters.)  Transmissions were short and infrequent, so
 it  was  decided  to  tape record all transmissions on this
 frequency for  several  days  to  determine  the  station's
 identity.

 During daylight hours, a modified Regency K500 scanner  was
 left  tuned  to  the target frequency, connected to a cheap
 tape recorder through a  home  built  interface.   Using  a
 carrier  operated  relay, the tape interface supplied power
 to the recorder only during radio transmissions, so a day's
 worth of traffic could be compressed into a 45 minute tape.

 Each day, the tape was played  back  and  notes  on  names,
 locations,   and  activities  mentioned  during  the  day's
 transmissions were taken.  The van driver  appeared  to  be
 making  daily stops at a local bank and two shopping malls.
 A Walgreen's store seemed to be the only stop at one  mall.
 A  few  times, "base" ordered the van "back to the Training
 Center."   There  were  frequent  references   to   "guests
 checking  out",  "dropping a guest off", and "instructor[s]
 missing a class".  At times, "base" spoke with  "security",
 who  must  have  been  using a walkie-talkie as his signals
 weren't strong enough to hear.

 Was this a hotel?  Calls to the three local hotels revealed
 that  none  provides  shuttle  bus  service to the shopping
 malls.  A call  to  the  Walgreen's,  inquiring  about  bus
 service  to  the  store,  drew  another  blank.   During my
 shopping trips, I began to pay  closer  attention  to  vans
 with antennas driving through the parking lots.

 I was leaving the mall one day, when a week's  effort  paid
 off.   A  maroon  and  white  van,  equipped  with a VHF-Hi
 antenna, was dropping shoppers off at Walgreen's.   A  sign
 on the van's door read:


 XYZ Central Training Center (XYZ is  a  pseudonym  for  the
 actual licensee name.)
                       Lisle, Illinois


 I watched the driver pick up a microphone, and listened  to
 him on my portable scanner checking back with his "base".

 All the  pieces  fit:  the  "guests",  the  "classes",  the
 "instructors".   Mystery  solved; I had been monitoring the
 customer training center for a large computer manufacturer.
 The  training  center has hotel rooms and dining facilities
 to  accommodate  students  from  out  of   state.    As   a
 convenience,  shuttle  van  service  is  provided  to local
 shopping malls.


                           Summary

 Through books, government records, and radio clubs, scanner
 listeners can make use of frequency information compiled by
 others.  Two-way radio users often fail to  identify  their
 transmissions   properly,  making  it  more  difficult  for
 listeners to know who they are  monitoring.   By  examining
 radio   equipment   labeling,  and  monitoring  and  taping
 transmissions,  scanner   enthusiasts   can   unearth   new
 information.


                          Addresses


                Grove Enterprises,
                PO Box 98,
                140 Dog Branch Road,
                Brasstown, NC 28902.
                tel [phone]
                order line [phone]

                Official Scanner Guide,
                PO Box 712,
                Londonderry, NH 03053.
                tel [phone]
                order line [phone]

                Scan America,
                430 Garner Drive,
                Suffield, OH 44260-1557

                Scanner Master,
                PO Box 428,
                Newton Highlands, MA 02161.
                telephone [phone].

__________

 1. See "The Government Giveth, the Government Taketh Away",
    by Richard Prelinger, in Monitoring Times, July 1982.

 2. See "AFIO and the FOIA", by Bob Grove, in Monitoring
    Times, September 1982.
--

==============================================================================
Copyright 1995,  Bob Parnass, AJ9S        AMPS Wireless Development Laboratory
[e-mail] - [phone]           Bell Laboratories


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Brian Chrisman wrote:
>
> At this time I don't believe that LAPD is going to 800mhz, radio system
> because they just spent a fortune on new Motorola Astro packsets. LAPD
> does have new licenses for 480 mhz. frequencies. Most of the new radios
> have approxamently 150 to 180 freqs programmed into the radios. The
> Sabers are wide band radios so they are still using the older 506 mhz,
> freqs and the newer 480 mhz. freqs. The only bummer is the radios have
> digital encryption capability so listening to the LAPD won't be as easy.
> The good thing is LAPD now has the capability to communicate to its
> surrounding agencies and LA Sheriff's on their new radios. As far as I
> can see though is they still have the old radios in their radio cars. The
> Southern California Police Call freq. book has a informative article
> about the radios.

With Astro technology they will be able to trunk a T-band system.
You could be in real trouble trying to monitor a encypted,
digital, trunked system on 480.

--
Curtis Wheeler - Pleasanton, CA


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                 BUYING A USED SCANNER RADIO

                    by Bob Parnass, AJ9S

  [NOTE: This article may not be reproduced in whole  or  in
 part   on   CDROMS,   in   bulletin  boards,  networks,  or
 publications which charge for service without permission of
 the author.  Free distribution is encouraged.]

 Anybody with enough money can buy a brand new scanner,  but
 you can save lots of money if you get a good deal on a used
 scanner.  Hamfests are probably the best place to find used
 radios,  but  you  must  be  familiar  with  the equipment.
 Hamfests are repleat with older radios  you  won't  see  in
 today's catalogs.

 At last count, there were over  110  scanners  and  monitor
 receivers  of  various brands in my collection.  I purchase
 most of my receivers at hamfests or horsetrade  with  other
 radio  hobbyists.   This  article describes a few of the FM
 receivers  in  my  collection,  and  is  not  meant  to  be
 complete.

           A Used Scanner May be a Broken Scanner

 Getting a bargain is not without some  risk.   I  have  had
 sellers  look  me square in the eye and tell me their radio
 worked fine -- when it really didn't.

 Buying a used portable scanner is  riskier  than  buying  a
 mobile  or  base  model.   Portable scanners are subject to
 more physical abuse and many have been dropped.  If a radio
 has  been dropped, the laws of probability dictate that the
 first point of impact was probably a corner, so be sure  to
 examine each corner for evidence of trauma.

 Scanners used in mobile service are subject  to  vibration,
 dust,  and  temperature  extremes.  This shouldn't dissuade
 you from buying a used mobile  scanner,  but  be  aware  of
 possible complications.

 You should have some recourse if the radio  you  buy  turns
 out to be defective.

 If you can't fix the radio yourself, you can  pay  to  have
 the  manufacturer  or  a  service clinic repair it for you.
 Several people have been  pleased  with  Electronic  Repair
 Center,  in Franklin Park, IL, which repairs scanners for a
 flat fee.  Call them at [phone]  to  find  out  their
 current  rates.   G  & G Communications (telephone 716-768-
 8151) is another scanner repair company.  This family owned
 company  repairs scanners and stocks parts and crystals for
 several  older  models.   They  usually  don't  repair  AOR
 scanners  due  to  lack  of manufacturer support.  They are
 located at 9247 Glenwood Drive, LeRoy, NY 14482.


                  Evolution of the Scanner

 It helps to understand some scanner history before shopping
 for  a  used scanner.  You will likely see radios from many
 vintages at a hamfest, and should avoid buying early  units
 unless you are a scanner collector.

 One of the  earliest  ancestors  to  the  scanner  was  the
 converter.    Manufactured   by   Tompkins   (Tuneaverter),
 Petersen,  Bearcat  (Lil  Tiger),  Midland,   and   others,
 converters  were  made  to  operate  in conjunction with AM
 radios.  Then came wide band  monitor  receivers,  in  both
 tunable  and  crystal  control models, like the Radio Shack
 PRO-2B.  Truthfully, converters and tuneable  FM  receivers
 are interesting but don't work well by today's standards.

 While  tuneable  receivers  were  in  vogue,  solid   state
 technologies  supplanted  tubes.  Better performing, narrow
 band crystal  controlled  units,  like  the  Sonar  FR-105,
 followed.    These  units  did  not  scan,  rather  channel
 selection was accomplished using a  simple  rotary  switch.
 Sonar  even made a 24 channel unit, model FR-2513, in which
 crystals were held in a rotary "turret."

 The earliest scanners, like the 1968 vintage  Bearcat  BCH,
 BCL,  and  BCU  models,  did not provide individual channel
 lockout capability.  Electra didn't use the term  "scanner"
 and   instead  called  these  innovative  radios  "business
 receivers."  Other models, like the SBE Sentinel,  employed
 a "Channel 1 Bypass" switch so a user could lockout channel
 1.

 The first scanners came in single band models, followed  by
 multiband  models.   As  two-way  radio  users  started  to
 populate the 450 - 470 MHz band, consumers were  forced  to
 pay  a  premium  for  UHF scanner coverage.  Some multiband
 scanners, like  the  Electra's  Bearcat  III,  required  an
 optional circuit board for each band.

 There were scanner mutations, designs which  never  evolved
 --  odd  combinations of AM broadcast receivers with VHF-FM
 receive capability, like  the  flamboyant  turquoise  Sonar
 Sentry  FR-103  portables,  Electra's Jolly Roger, and GE's
 Surveyor series.  Lafayette Radio Electronics offered a few
 CB  transceivers  with VHF receiver capability.  These poor
 performers didn't interest consumers of that  era  and  you
 should   avoid  these  models  unless  you  are  a  scanner
 collector.

 The  first  programmable   (crystal-less)   scanners   were
 difficult  to program.  Users had to look up frequencies in
 a code book and tediously program the information into  the
 scanner  in binary form.  Some models, like the Bearcat BC-
 101, Radio Shack COMP 100, and  Tennelec  MCP-1,  resembled
 Altair  or  PDP-8  computers, with a row of 16 or so toggle
 switches.  Instead of toggle switches, the Regency WHAMO-10
 was programmed by breaking teeth from metal combs.  The SBE
 Optiscan (and its Sears clone) required poking a series  of
 holes in plastic cards which were then inserted into a slot
 on the front panel.

               Keyboard Programmable Scanners

 Both Bearcat and Regency, as well as Radio Shack offer some
 good  models.   I  would  avoid  the Bearcat 100, and older
 scanners made by AOR, JIL, Fox, Tennelec, and Robyn.

 Scanner features often differ not  only  by  model  but  by
 manufacturer.   For  instance, most Radio Shack and Bearcat
 programmables allow enable/disable of the delay function on
 a  per-channel basis.  Older Regency units permit the delay
 to be enabled/disabled only globally, that is, for all  the
 channels at one time.

 Radio  Shack  scanners  contain  a  reasonable  number   of
 features.   All the older Radio Shack scanners were made by
 General Research Electronics (GRE).   Uniden  began  making
 scanner  models  for Radio Shack in the late 1980s, and now
 supplies about half the Radio Shack  scanners.   The  older
 GRE-made  models  scan a bit slowly and have a higher level
 of synthesizer noise. Most have too much hysteresis in  the
 operation  of  the  squelch  control, but this can be fixed
 completely by replacing one resistor.  Good, detailed  shop
 manuals are available for Radio Shack units for $5 - $12.

 In the name of cost cutting, some  models  have  done  away
 with  the  concept of a "channel bank", i.e. the ability to
 select/deselect a group of channels at a  time.   The  bank
 concept  was a good one.  It may be inconvenient to operate
 a 30 channel scanner without banks (e.g.   Regency  MX3000,
 HX1000) if you operate the way many scanner hobbyists do.

 If you want to buy an American-made scanner, you will  have
 to  buy  an  old  model.   A few years ago, the Regency and
 Bearcat scanner lines were purchased by Uniden, a  Japanese
 company, and production was moved to Asia.

 My favorite VHF/UHF receivers are  the  400  channel  Radio
 Shack  PRO-2005 and PRO-2006, the Uniden/Bearcat BC9000XLT,
 and the ICOM R7000 and R7100.  The  ICOM  models  are  more
 "communications receiver" than a conventional scanner.

 For portable use, I  prefer  the  Radio  Shack  PRO-43  and
 Uniden/Bearcat BC3000XLT.


                     Obtaining Crystals

 If you do purchase a crystal controlled scanner or  monitor
 receiver,  you  will  probably want to buy more crystals to
 cover local frequencies.

 Scanner crystals may be ordered from your local Radio Shack
 store  or  from  one  of  the  companies below.  Be sure to
 specify the operating frequency you want and the brand  and
 model of scanner.

 Some companies may ask you  to  send  a  schematic  of  the
 scanner  or  require more detailed information, like series
 or parallel resonance, load capacitance, etc.


             American Crystal Co.
             1623 Central Ave.
             Kansas City, KS 66102
             tel. [phone]

             Bomar Crystal Company
             201 Blackford Ave.
             Middlesex, NJ 08846
             tel. [phone]

             Cal Crystal Lab Inc.
             1142 N. Gilbert St.
             Anaheim, CA 92801
             tel. [phone]

             International Crystal Mfg Co.
             11 N. Lee Ave
             Oklahoma City, OK 73102
             tel. [phone]

             G & G Communications
             9247 Glenwood Drive
             LeRoy, NY 14482.
             tel. [phone]

             Jan Crystals
             Box #-6017
             Fort Myers, FL 33911
             tel. [phone]

             Monitor Crystal Svc
             124 W Walnut St Watseka, IL 60970
             tel. [phone]

 For more information about old scanners, see:


   1.    "Confessions  of  a  Scanner  Collector,"  by   Bob
       Parnass, Monitoring Times, August 1988.

   2.    "Scanner  Collector  Primer,"   by   Bob   Parnass,
       Monitoring Times, May 1995.

 I have  published  full  length  reviews  of  these  recent
 scanner models in Monitoring Times magazine:


 Jan 1995 - Radio Shack PRO-2035 vs. Radio Shack PRO-2006
 Feb 1995 - Radio Shack PRO-62 Portable
 Mar 1995 - Uniden/Bearcat BC9000XLT
 Apr 1995 - Uniden/Bearcat BC3000XLT Portable
 May 1995 - Uniden/Bearcat BC860XLT
 Jun 1995 - Uniden/Bearcat BC890XLT & Radio Shack PRO-2036
 Jul 1995 - Radio Shack PRO-2037
 Aug 1995 - Radio Shack PRO-26 vs. Uniden/Bearcat BC3000XLT
 Sep 1995 - Radio Shack PRO-60 Portable
 Oct 1995 - AOR AR-2700 Portable


 Note: Reprints of Monitoring Times articles  are  available
 for   $2.00   each  from  Grove  Enterprises,  PO  Box  98,
 Brasstown, NC 28902, tel. [phone].


                             AOR

 AR2700: 1995 vintage.  500 channel  portable  covering  500
 kHz  to 1300 MHz.  Lots of good features, e.g., 10 linkable
 search banks, lighted keypad,  per-channel  attenuator,  S-
 meter,  battery  meter,  optional voice recorder and speech
 inversion descrambler.  Global rescan and pause delays, but
 no  auto  store,  data skip, nor battery saver.  Internally
 generated noise results in broad birdies on AR2700  tested.
 Insensitive  carrier  operated (vs. noise operated) squelch
 stays closed on signals unless they are moderately  strong,
 causing scanner to skip transmissions of interest.


                            ICOM

 R-7000: 1986 vintage.  At about $1000, this  was  once  the
 top VHF/UHF receiver.  99 channel, multi mode coverage from
 25-2000 MHz with a small gap at 1000-1025 MHz.  Memory  can
 be  expanded to 198 channels by adding simple switch to pin
 19 of memory IC8.  Tuning knob lets you tune through  parts
 of  the  spectrum much easier than using the SEARCH mode on
 conventional scanners.  Selectable USB/LSB allows reception
 of  new amplitude compandored sideband (ACSB) stations.  S-
 meter doubles as discriminator meter to aid tuning.  Useful
 search  and  store  feature, reminiscent of the the Bearcat
 250, searches between 2 limits and automatically stores new
 frequencies   into   channels  80-99.   Audio  and  control
 interface for tape recorder.  Noisy relay,  activated  when
 the  receiver  is  tuned  to  frequencies  above  520  MHz.
 Searches and scans slowly but can be sped up  to  about  12
 cps  by  adding  a  resistor.  Too big for permanent mobile
 use, but too nice to leave alone in the car.  If you  don't
 want  to  spend  $1000,  get  a  Radio  Shack  PRO-2004/5/6
 instead.

 R-7100: 1992 vintage.  At about $1300, this is the Cadillac
 of  VHF/UHF  receivers.  900 channel, multi mode continuous
 coverage from 25-2000 MHz.  The radio RF/IF/AF portions  of
 the  R7100 are similar to the older R7000, but the R7100 is
 constructed using surface mount parts.  Both the R7000  and
 R7100   are   much   more   immune  to  intermod  than  the
 Uniden/Bearcat  760XLT  and  the  portable   PRO-43.    The
 firmware  in the R7100 is much more sophisticated.  9 banks
 of 100 channels.  Further, you can associate  each  channel
 with 1 of 10 groups.  Many possible ways to scan.  10 pairs
 of search limits.  Search and store ("memory  write")  scan
 mode  lets  you  store 100 frequencies instead of the 20 in
 R7000.  Another R7100 improvement is that you  can  program
 up  to  100 channels for the R7100 to skip while searching.
 R7100 has 2 VFOs ("windows").  Both  the  R7000  and  R7100
 scan slowly compared with PRO-2004 and PRO-2006, and that's
 a drawback.  Both the R7100 and R7000 employ a noisy relay,
 activated  when  the receiver is tuned to frequencies above
 520 MHz.  Scanning a mixture of  VHF  and  UHF  frequencies
 serenades  the  Icom  user  with  a very annoying clickety-
 clack, clickety-clack!


             UNIDEN/Bearcat and Electra/Bearcat

 Bearcat III (Electra): 1976  vintage.   8  channel  crystal
 controlled  scanner.   Requires  optional front-end circuit
 board for VHF-low, VHF-high, and  UHF  bands,  but  only  2
 boards  can be installed within the radio at the same time.
 Two crystal filters.  No aircraft band coverage nor  rescan
 delay.   Front  mount  speaker  sounds  good.  Strong local
 oscillator radiation often causes interference  with  other
 scanners in the same house.

 Bearcat IV (Electra): 8 channel crystal controlled scanner.
 Newer   version  of  Bearcat  III  but  contains  front-end
 circuitry for VHF-low, VHF-high,  and  UHF  bands.   Better
 selectivity  than  Bearcat  III  or  12 due to having three
 instead of two 10.8  MHz  IF  filters.   No  aircraft  band
 coverage.   Front  mount  speaker  sounds  good.  No rescan
 delay.

 Bearcat 5 (Electra): 1979 vintage.  Eight  channel  economy
 base  model covering VHF-low, VHF-high, and UHF bands.  117
 VAC only.  No track tuning.  Black plastic cabinet.

 Bearcat 6  (Electra):  Six  channel  VHF-low  and  VHF-high
 bands.  117 VAC only.  Wood covered particle board cabinet.

 Bearcat 8 (Electra): Eight channel VHF-low,  VHF-high,  and
 UHF  bands.   117  VAC  only.   Wood covered particle board
 cabinet.

 Bearcat 12 (Electra): 1979 vintage.  One of the last decent
 crystal  controlled  scanners.  10 channels.  Variable scan
 speed up to 20 ch/sec.  Single delay on/off switch.   Front
 mount  speaker  sounds  good.   Manual  contains schematic.
 Single conversion, 10.8 MHz IF.  Selectivity is poorer than
 programmable   models,  like  the  300,  allowing  adjacent
 channel interference.  Covers VHF-low,  VHF-high,  and  UHF
 bands  but  no  aircraft  band coverage.  Crystal positions
 must be arranged by band.

 Bearcat 15 (Electra):  1983  vintage.   Actually  made  for
 Electra  by  competitor GRE (General Research Electronics).
 The only Bearcat  crystal  controlled  base/mobile  scanner
 offering 118 - 136 MHz AM aircraft band.  10 channels.

 BC101 (Electra): 1975 vintage.  First  Bearcat  synthesized
 unit.   16  channels, no priority.  Frequency programmed in
 binary by setting toggle  switches  on  front  panel  after
 looking  up code in code book.  No frequency readout.  Uses
 custom IC for CPU, now discontinued, so factory  authorized
 service  is  no  longer  available.   I  have four of these
 units.  DC operation requires optional mobile power supply.

 BC100 (Electra): First programmable portable  scanner.   Be
 prepared  for at least one repair in the first year.  Early
 units, with threaded antenna connector, have high frequency
 of  repair, particularly LCD readout, keyboard, and battery
 holder.  No battery backup.   Poor  case  design  in  early
 units  caused  battery  to disconnect from radio, resetting
 microprocessor and clearing memories.  No priority  channel
 or  aircraft  band.  Some people swear by the BC100, others
 swear at them.

 BC220 (Electra): 1979 vintage.   20  channels.   Reasonable
 number  of  features  but  20 channels doesn't seem enough.
 Service Search for Marine and Aircraft.  LED readout.  Good
 scanner, but tinny audio.

 BC20/20 (Electra): 1981 vintage.  Similar to BC220 but with
 40  channels  and different CPU circuitry.  A maximum of 20
 channels can be scanned at one time.  Reasonable number  of
 features.   Service  Search  for  Marine and Aircraft.  LED
 readout.  Good scanner, but tinny audio.

 BC250 (Electra): 1976 vintage.  50 channel model,  rich  in
 features,  but lacks aircraft band and 144-146 MHz.  Search
 and Store feature  extremely  useful  for  finding  federal
 frequencies.   Clock.   High  frequency  of  repair.  Power
 transistors not heat sinked adequately, causing heat damage
 to  surrounding  components  and circuit board.  Failure of
 Q204 on the  feature  board  known  to  cause  odd  display
 readings.   Digital  circuitry  very  sensitive to glitches
 caused by static and AC line spikes.  Avoid 1978 or earlier
 vintage  units.   All  BC250s  use custom ICs (e.g., IC6, a
 divider chip, mfd. by Exar), which are now discontinued, so
 factory service is no longer available from Uniden.

 BC260 (Electra): 1983  vintage.   Super  heavy  duty  metal
 cabinetry  and  lit  controls,  aimed  at  mobile  use  for
 firemen, police, etc.  Few frills,  only  16  channels,  no
 aircraft, but generous coverage of federal bands omitted in
 the older Bearcat scanners.   Good  sensitivity.   Lots  of
 audio.    Good  internal  construction.   Backlit  keyboard
 allows operation in the dark, but  the  keyboards  on  some
 units require high pressure to operate.  Brightness control
 for display and keyboard,  but  multiplexor  circuitry  for
 vacuum fluorescent display produces audible whine which may
 be annoying in a quiet room.  Backlighting may fail in some
 units due to poor contact on connector used to fasten light
 panel to front circuit board.  9 volt regulator  transistor
 Q28  (TIP29)  may fail, causing blank display while leaving
 audio intact.  Method of connecting an external speaker  is
 awkward.

 BC300 (Electra): 1979 vintage.  50 channel top of the  line
 scanner.   Service  Search feature contains 11 ROM banks of
 preprogrammed channels.   Switching  power  supply  failure
 noted  in  early  units  due  to insufficient capacitance -
 component value was changed  in  newer  units.   Schematics
 show  at  least 100 components changed between earliest and
 later units.  Preset squelch  pot,  mounted  internally  on
 circuit  board,  misadjusted  in  new  units  -  adjustment
 usually required after burn-in period.   Good  sensitivity.
 Built  in  clock.  I leave it on 24 hours a day.  This is a
 favorite.

 BC350 (Electra): 1981 vintage.  50  channels  in  5  banks.
 Includes  aircraft.   Used to be Bearcat's top of the line,
 overpriced  scanner  but  never  very  popular.   Dual  use
 keyboard  and  display  allowed  8  text  characters  to be
 associated  with   each   channel,   a   feature   clumsily
 implemented,  and  awkward  to  use.   Units  plagued  with
 various hardware problems  including  bad  memory  ICs  and
 short  life  power  transformers.   Firmware  bugs  without
 cures.  The BC300 is a much better scanner than the  BC350,
 and at a lower price.

 BC760XLT (Uniden): Also sold as  BC950XLT  through  Scanner
 World.    Small,  mobile  scanner  supplied  with  mounting
 bracket and wall wart AC power supply.  Some  of  the  keys
 are  backlit.   100  channels  in 5 banks.  Service search.
 Earlier version has  Motorola  type  antenna  jack  and  AA
 battery  backup.   Later  version  has BNC antenna jack and
 internal lithium battery.   Can  be  fitted  with  optional
 CTCSS  decoder.   Hyper  sensitive and easily overloaded by
 strong signals, especially when used with  outdoor  antenna
 in  base  applications.   Conventional 10.8 MHz IF prone to
 images.  Television audio heard in some places.

 BC800XLT (Uniden): 1985 vintage.  40 channels in two banks.
 Covers  806-912  MHz,  as well as of vhf, uhf, and aircraft
 bands.  Receives 10 meter fm and all of 6 meters,  as  well
 as federal portions of vhf and uhf bands.  Fewer birdies on
 vhf-lo band than other scanners.  Scans and  searches  very
 fast.   Clean,  robust  audio output.  Extremely sensitive,
 but very prone to overload by strong signals when connected
 to  outdoor antenna.  Too much play (hysteresis) in squelch
 adjustment - can be  improved  by  changing  one  resistor.
 Positive terminal in memory backup battery holder installed
 backwards in early units, allowing memory loss when scanner
 unplugged  from AC outlet.  Tunes in increments of 12.5 KHz
 on 800 MHz band, whereas cellular telephones are on 30  KHz
 channels.   See "The Bearcat 800XLT ... an Owner's Report,"
 by Bob Parnass, in Monitoring Times, March 1986.

 BC860XLT (Uniden): 1995 vintage.   100  channel  table  top
 unit.   Can  lock  out  10  channels  during  search.  Good
 performer except  for  images.   See  "The  Uniden  Bearcat
 BC860XLT,"  by  Bob Parnass, AJ9S, in Monitoring Times, May
 1995.

 BC890XLT (Uniden): Same as Radio  Shack  PRO-2036.   Tuning
 knob.   200  channels,  global delay.  Count, AUX, and Auto
 Store features.  Scans and searches fast.  Accepts optional
 CTCSS  board.   Dual  conversion  with 10.8 MHz first IF --
 lots of images and  birdies.   Prone  to  severe  intermod,
 especially  when  used  with  an outdoor antenna.  See "The
 Uniden BC-890XLT and Radio Shack PRO-2036," by Bob Parnass,
 in June 1995 Monitoring Times.

 BC9000XLT (Uniden): 1995 vintage.  High quality base  using
 up-conversion.   500  channels  in twenty banks.  Up to 250
 channels can be programmed with alpha labels.  Tuning knob.
 Selectable  AM, NFM, WFM modes.  Very fast scan and search.
 Can  lock  out  50  channels  during  search.   Delay   and
 attenuator  independently  programmable  for  each channel.
 Effective Auto Store  feature  stores  unique  frequencies.
 Good  RF  section,  but not as robust as PRO-2004/5/6.  One
 urban user, located within a couple of  blocks  of  several
 high  power  transmitters, reports severe desense problems.
 See "The Uniden Bearcat BC9000XLT," by Bob  Parnass,  AJ9S,
 in Monitoring Times, March 1995.

 BC100XLT (Uniden): 1987 vintage.   Very  good  100  channel
 portable  with  10 priority channels.  Unique feature tells
 whether a  given  frequency  has  already  been  memorized.
 Generous   coverage   of   conventional   bands,  including
 commercial aircraft, but no 800 MHz.   Decent  leather-like
 case.  Slide-on 550 mAH NiCd battery pack.

 BC200XLT (Uniden): 1987 vintage.   Also  sold  as  BC205XLT
 through  Scanner  World.   Very good 200 channel version of
 BC100XLT portable scanner but includes 800  MHz  band.   10
 priority  channels.   Unique  feature tells whether a given
 frequency has already been memorized.  Decent  leather-like
 case.  Slide-on NiCd battery pack.

 BC2500XLT (Uniden): 400 channel portable with tuning  knob.
 Plagued  by  intermod  and  images.   Early  units  drained
 batteries quickly even while turned off.

 BC3000XLT (Uniden): 1995 vintage.   Excellent  400  channel
 portable  with  20  banks.  Up conversion.  Very fast scan,
 search, and intelligent Auto Store.  Mode, attenuator,  and
 delay   settings   programmable   for   each  channel.   50
 frequencies  can  be  locked  out  during  search.   Larger
 speaker  than  PRO-26  produces better, crisper audio.  See
 "The Uniden Bearcat BC3000XLT," by Bob  Parnass,  AJ9S,  in
 Monitoring Times, April 1995.


                           Regency

 TMR series: First generation crystal scanners. Come in  all
 varieties  of  band  coverage. Models with both UHF and VHF
 bands  must   use   separate   antennas   for   each   band
 (disadvantage  in mobile installations, but can be overcome
 by  connecting  two  front  ends  via  a  capacitor).   Not
 sensitive enough to cover the entire 30 - 50 MHz range in a
 single  model.   There  three  versions  of  VHF-low   band
 coverage  depending  on  the  part  of the 30 - 50 MHz band
 covered (LL, LM. and  LH).   TMR  scanners  use  unsocketed
 incandescent  bulbs  for  channel  indicators which require
 periodic  replacement.   Easy  to  crystal:   Radio   Shack
 crystals  work  well.   TMRs usually $2 and up at hamfests,
 often in poor condition.  Don't pay more than $50, even  if
 mint. Front ends must be tuned for selected portions within
 the  bands  for  best  sensitivity.  Wide  IF   selectivity
 troublesome  in  urban/suburban  areas.  Primitive  digital
 scanning circuitry may become confused at times. but  power
 off/on  restores  sanity.  Replace  aging capacitors in the
 scanning circuits. You can find a TMR8H eight channel  high
 band unit most often.

 TME series: The base versions of the TMR models.  Both  the
 TME  and TMR models share many common circuits but the base
 versions contain speakers mounted on the front panel.   The
 most  common  TME model is the TME8 H/LM eight channel dual
 band scanner in a metal cabinet with wood coloring.

 ACTR series: Replaced the Regency TMR units.  By  the  time
 Regency  made  the  ACTR  units,  they  no  longer  offered
 different models for different parts of the  30  -  50  MHz
 band.   Look  for  the later ACT series, e.g., ACTR-106 (10
 channel tri band) or ACTR20/6 (20 channel tri  band),  used
 light  emitting  diodes  for  channel indicators instead of
 incandescent bulbs.  Available in 1 to 20 channel models  -
 most  are multi band receivers.  Somewhat wide selectivity.
 Not all that bad a deal if cheap.

 ACTE series: The base versions of  the  ACTR  series.   The
 ACTE  and  ACTR  circuitry  is  similar,  although the base
 versions contain speakers mounted on the front panel.   The
 most  common ACTE model is the ACTE8 H/L eight channel dual
 band scanner in a black metal cabinet.


 WHAMO-10: Regency's first synthesized scanner.   Appearance
 more like a crystal scanner, with a single LED per channel.
 User has to break off teeth on  a  metal  'comb'  for  each
 channel  according  to  a  code  book.  External  frequency
 control unit DFS-5K optional. UHF VCO reference  oscillator
 drifts  on  some units. Soldered sheet metal shields around
 some circuitry make access to some components difficult for
 servicing.  Comb  sockets  prone  to  bad connections after
 moderate  use.   Not   recommended   due   to   maintenance
 difficulties.

 K500: Nice wood-like cabinet.  40 channel model with  every
 feature  Regency  could  dream  of  in  one scanner, except
 aircraft band. Idle tone bypass feature  for  mobile  phone
 stations  works  about  50%  of  the  time.  Weather  alert
 feature. Service Search in several banks. Search and  Store
 facility  not implemented as well as BC250, but better than
 none. Built in clock when radio off or in manual mode.  Can
 be  programmed  out  of  band.  Reasonable performance, but
 sensitivity could be better. Spring  contacts  on  membrane
 keyboard may need soldering after prolonged use.

 K100: Bare bones version  of  the  K500.  10  channels,  no
 priority  feature.  Same  wood-like  cabinet and reasonable
 performance as K500. Spring contacts on  membrane  keyboard
 may need soldering after prolonged use.

 M400: 30 channel replacement for K500.  Service Search, but
 no  aircraft.  Easily  programmable  out  of band. Built in
 clock when radio off or in manual  mode.  Backlit  keyboard
 good  for  night  viewing  and mobile use but generates RFI
 into nearby SW receivers. A favorite.

 MX3000: 30 channel replacement for M400, but basic features
 only.  Nice  lit keyboard, but may cause RFI into nearby SW
 receivers.  Easily  programmable  out  of  band,   but   no
 aircraft. All 30 channels are in a single bank, and lack of
 direct channel access make this  model  more  difficult  to
 operate. Good first scanner.

 M100: 10 channel unit.  Same  as  MX3000  except  different
 color  and  fewer  channels.  Nicely  lit keyboard, but may
 cause RFI into nearby SW receivers.

 HX1000:  Good,   fairly   rugged,   30   channel   handheld
 synthesized  unit.  Generous out of band coverage but no AM
 aircraft coverage. Built by Azden. Very sensitive  on  UHF,
 but   annoying   audio  hiss  leaks  through  speaker  when
 squelched. Belt clip chintzy, but can be directly  replaced
 with better clip from Kenwood TR2600A. Like the MX3000, all
 30 channels are in  a  single  bank,  and  lack  of  direct
 channel  access  make this model more difficult to operate.
 Low discount price makes this best choice for  programmable
 portable.

 HX650/H604: 6 channel  crystal  portable.  Likely  made  by
 Sanyo.  Same as Fannon and Bearcat Thin Scan units, (except
 that Bearcat has 10.8 MHz IF frequency, and  is  harder  to
 get  crystals for), but scans faster. Small size and common
 crystals (available at Radio Shack), make this  1st  choice
 for bare bones portable scanner.


                         Radio Shack

 PRO2004: 1986 vintage.  Top of the line, wide band  scanner
 for  1987.  After a diode is cut, enjoy continuous coverage
 from 25-520 and 760-1300 MHz, AM, NBFM, and WBFM.  Has  300
 channels  in  10  banks  of 30, backed up by conventional 9
 volt alkaline battery.  Any channel can be  designated  the
 priority  channel.   Scans and searches fast.  Lots of well
 designed features, like 10 pairs of search limits,  Lockout
 Review,  default search increment and emission mode.  Sound
 Squelch allows skipping  dead  carriers  during  search  or
 scan.    Metal  cabinet,  good  internal  construction  and
 shielding, but no mobile mounting bracket or DC power cord.
 Soft   touch   membrane  keyboard.   Good  sensitivity  and
 selectivity.  Very good radio.  See  "Product  Review:  The
 Radio  Shack PRO-2004 Programmable Scanner," by Bob Parnass
 AJ9S,  in  The  Radio  Enthusiast,   February   1987,   and
 Monitoring Times, March 1987.

 PRO2005: 1989 vintage.  Essentially a size reduced PRO-2004
 with  surface  mount  components  and  400  channels.  Some
 people think the small knobs, smaller display, and  plastic
 cabinet  are  a  setback  from the 2004.  The smaller size,
 real rubber keyboard, and  vertical  front  panel  make  it
 easer  to  use mobile, although there is no mobile mounting
 bracket available and the keyboard is  not  backlit.   More
 sensitive  than  the  PRO-2004  but  800  MHz  signals leak
 through into the commercial aero band.  Highly recommended.
 See  "Product Review: The Radio Shack PRO-2005 Programmable
 Scanner," by Bob Parnass AJ9S,  in  The  Radio  Enthusiast,
 June 1989, and RCMA Journal, August 1989.

 PRO2006: 1990 vintage.  Essentially the  same  as  PRO-2005
 but  scans faster.  Probably the best scanner made to date.
 Highly recommended.  See "The Realistic PRO-2006,"  by  Bob
 Parnass, AJ9S, in Monitoring Times, October 1990.

 PRO-2035: 1995 vintage.  Cumbersome 100 channel bank  size.
 Tuning  knob.   Poor  dynamic  range.   10  linkable search
 banks.  Dumb Auto Store feature stores the same frequencies
 over and over.  See "The Radio Shack PRO-2035 - How Does It
 Compare With the  PRO-2006?,"  by  Bob  Parnass,  AJ9S,  in
 Monitoring Times, January 1995.

 PRO34: Portable scanner  with  200  channels  and  800  MHz
 coverage.  Ten "monitor" channels.  Operates from AA cells.
 Slow scanning, low audio output, and chintzy  plastic  case
 detract  from  an  otherwise  good  performance.  No decent
 leather case available from Radio Shack.   If  you  need  a
 portable  with 800 MHz, get a Bearcat 200XLT.  If you can't
 get a 200XLT, get a PRO-34.

 PRO2021: Base/mobile scanner.  200 channels  in  10  banks,
 LCD  display  and  raised  rubber keys.  Lots of memory but
 scans  too  slowly  and  lacks  800  MHz.   Ten   "monitor"
 channels.  Radio Shack seemed to have an overstock of 2021s
 as they were on sale for such a long time.  Close out price
 dipped  to  about  $200,  which  made it a nice scanner for
 beginners.

 PRO2022:  Base/mobile  scanner.   Like  the   PRO2021   but
 includes  the 800 MHz band.  Cellular images throughout the
 847.6 - 869 MHz range.  Includes power saver  circuit,  odd
 for  a  base  unit,  which  can  clip  the  first part of a
 transmission.

 PRO2036: Same as  Uniden/Bearcat  BC890XLT.   Tuning  knob.
 200  channels,  global  delay.   Scans  and  searches fast.
 Count, AUX, and  Auto  Store  features.   Accepts  optional
 CTCSS  board.   Dual  conversion  with 10.8 MHz first IF --
 lots of images and  birdies.   Prone  to  severe  intermod,
 especially  when  used  with  an outdoor antenna.  See "The
 Uniden BC-890XLT and Radio Shack PRO-2036," by Bob Parnass,
 in June 1995 Monitoring Times.

 PRO-2037: Triple conversion all plastic base  scanner  made
 by  GRE.  Home version of the PRO-62 portable but with more
 intermod.  200 channels  in  10  banks,  one  search  bank,
 selectable  AM  and  FM.   Uses up conversion circuitry but
 inadequate front end filtering still allows images,  though
 not  as  bad  as  in  10.7 or 10.8 MHz IF circuits.  Crisp,
 respectable audio given the top mounted speaker.  See  "The
 Radio  Shack  PRO-2037,"  by  Bob  Parnass,  in  July  1995
 Monitoring Times.

 PRO2001:  Early,  single  bank  16  channel   programmable.
 Reasonable  coverage  of  the  3  traditional  bands, minus
 aircraft band.  LED digital display as well as an  LED  per
 channel.   Mechanical  lockout  switch  for  each  channel.
 Delay is either on or off for all channels at a time.  High
 synthesizer  noise level.  Troublesome plated through holes
 on digital board in  some  units  renders  radio  virtually
 unfixable.   Could  never  get mine to work more than a few
 days in a row; always another bad connection.  Some  owners
 have no trouble.

 PRO52: 8 channel VHF-Lo/Hi  base  unit.   No  UHF  band  or
 provision   for  mobile  operation.   Good  little  scanner
 despite limited frequency  coverage  and  Spartan  lack  of
 frills.   Crisp  squelch action and good audio, helped by a
 front mounted, vertical speaker.

 PRO2003: Radio Shack's 1986 top of line.  50 channels +  10
 FM  commercial broadcast band channels.  Includes aircraft.
 Good frequency coverage and functionality, but  at  a  high
 price.   Poor human engineering: difficult to read keyboard
 makes the PRO2003 hard to operate  unless  in  a  well  lit
 room.   Keyboard  label  coloring  improved on newer units.
 Rather slow scan rate and high price.  Although  there  are
 provisions  for 12VDC operation, the cabinet shape and lack
 of mounting bracket  makes  mobile  operation  impractical.
 Scan  rate  only  8  channels/sec vs. 15/sec in Regency and
 Bearcat.  Causes  RFI:  Plastic  case  permits  scanner  to
 radiate signals into nearby receivers.

 PRO-43: Very good portable made by GRE.  First Radio  Shack
 portable  with up conversion, and 222 MHz ham and 225 - 400
 MHz military  air  band  coverage.   200  channels,  single
 search  range.   Small,  convenient  size.   Muffled audio.
 Speakers in early units known to  fail  and  more  powerful
 speakers  were  used in later units.  800 MHz band coverage
 fully restorable in early units by  removing  diode.   Uses
 same  6  cell battery tray as other high end GRE portables.
 Subject to interference in 160 - 162 MHz range.

 PRO-60: Very good portable  made  by  GRE.   200  channels,
 single  search range.  Similar features and same IFs as the
 PRO-43 it replaced  but  the  PRO-60  has  wider  frequency
 coverage  and  crisper audio.  Covers 75 MHz and commercial
 FM broadcast bands.  Improved Direct search can be  stepped
 manually in single steps.  Uses same 6 cell battery tray as
 other high end GRE portables.  Railfans take  note  --  the
 PRO-60  and PRO-43 are subject to interference in 160 - 162
 MHz range.  Draws 100 mA while scanning.

 PRO-26: Very good portable  made  by  for  Radio  Shack  by
 Uniden.    200   channels,  very  fast  scan/search.   Good
 display.  Covers all TV channels, but spectrum adjacent  to
 cellular  phone  band is censored which prevents monitoring
 parts of  some  trunked  systems  (e.g.,  IL  State  Police
 district  4).   Up  to 50 frequencies can be skipped during
 search.  Limited image  rejection  causes  929  MHz  paging
 interference  in  170  MHz range.  Audio suffers from small
 speaker.

 PRO62:  Good  portable  200  channel   scanner   using   up
 conversion.   Similar  to  PRO-43 but no military air band,
 different upper frequency  limit,  and  slightly  different
 IFs.   Selectable  AM/NFM  modes.  Better intermod immunity
 than PRO-43.  See "The Radio Shack PRO-62," by Bob Parnass,
 AJ9S, in Monitoring Times, February 1995.

 PRO30: 16 channel programmable portable with aircraft band.
 Good  frequency  coverage.   Extra  controls  on  top allow
 control of SCAN, MANUAL, and PRIORITY functions while  worn
 on  belt.  Good belt clip.  Low audio output.  Plastic case
 prone to break at BNC antenna connector under  severe  use,
 vs.   metal  frame  in  Regency  HX1000.   High  price,  no
 discounts or sales yet.  I had 6 or  7  PRO30s,  having  to
 return  them  several  times  during  the  1 year warranty,
 although other  owners  have  had  little  or  no  trouble.
 Troubles  included  oscillation  in  IF  stage, no UHF band
 reception, case broken around base  of  antenna  connector,
 etc.

 PRO-24:  Only  4  channels  in  this   crystal   controlled
 portable.   Covers  the three basic bands, but no aircraft.
 Easy to  obtain  batteries  and  crystals.   Characteristic
 Radio  Shack  squelch  problem,  fixable  by  changing  one
 resistor.  All-plastic case larger than Bearcat  Thin  Scan
 and  clones.   See "The Radio Shack PRO-24 Scanner," by Bob
 Parnass, excerpted in the "Technical Topics"  column,  RCMA
 Newsletter, February 1984.


                 Craig (division of Pioneer)

 4530: Japanese 10 channel crystal controlled 3  band  unit.
 Also   available  under  Plectron  name  but  in  different
 cabinet.  No aircraft band.  Deluxe features like priority,
 trimmer  capacitors  for  netting each channel, front panel
 speaker, and rugged metal cabinet make this unit a  winner.
 Channel lockout slide switches have finite life.  Replacing
 burned out incandescent channel lamps not fun.  Grab a 4530
 if you find one in good condition.


                           Sonar:

 Sonar  made  several  crystal   controlled   scanners   and
 channelized  monitor  receivers  which  shared  the same RF
 circuitry.  Each radio was housed in the  same  size  metal
 case  and  worked  on  both 120 VAC and 12 VDC.  The models
 differed in the number of channels, the band coverage,  and
 whether individual channels could be locked out.

 Although they used  a  10.7  MHz  first  IF,  Sonar  radios
 require  parallel  resonant  crystals  different  from  the
 common series resonant crystals used in Regency  and  Radio
 Shack  scanners.   Some  Radio  Shack crystals will work in
 Sonar units, but more often they oscillate a  few  kHz  off
 frequency and are unsuitable unless changes are made to the
 oscillator circuitry.  Therefore,  beginners  should  avoid
 these radios.  Typical Sonar squelch has long time constant
 causing a long noise burst at the end of each transmission.


 FR-104, FR-105: 6 channel monitor receivers covering  25  -
 50  MHz  or 150 - 175 MHz.  Manual channel selection, i.e.,
 no scanning.  Early models are  identified  by  an  11  pin
 connector  on  the  rear  and  they  could  be used with an
 optional NiCd battery pack and charger which bolted to  the
 rear  panel.  Later models used Cinch Jones connectors with
 flat contacts.  Optional tone decoder board.

 FR-2512, FR-2513: 24 channel versions  of  the  FR-104  and
 FR-105  monitor receivers.  Manual channel selection, i.e.,
 no scanning.

 FR-2514, FR-2515: 8 channel scanners.  Channel 1  priority.
 Recommend  you  avoid  these  models  as there is no way to
 lockout a channel from the scan sequence.

 FR-2526, FR-2526, FR-2528:  10  channel  scanners  covering
 various  combinations  of  3  bands.  Each channel could be
 locked out.  Channel 1 priority.


     Sonar    #chan-   VHF   VHF    UHF            lock-
     Model     nels    low   high         scans?   outs?
     ___________________________________________________
     FR104       6     X                  no
     FR105       6           X            no
     FR2512     24     X                  no
     FR2513     24           X            no
     FR2514      8     X                  yes      no
     FR2515      8           X            yes      no
     FR2526     10                  X     yes      yes
     FR2527     10           X      X     yes      yes
     FR2528     10     X     X            yes      yes

Table 1.  Summary of Sonar base/mobile monitor  and  scanner
          receivers



                          Tennelec

 Manufactured the first synthesized scanners.  Company  went
 out  of  business  several years ago.  Schematics and parts
 difficult to obtain.  Radios reputed to be poor performers.
 Got  my  MS-2 and MCP-1 basket cases for free and sometimes
 regret taking them.   Not  worth  fixing  unless  you  have
 access to DTL/RTL chips and circuit diagrams.



        Plectron and Motorola Alert Monitor Receivers

 In the 1960s and 1970s, thousands of firemen and  ambulance
 squad members came to rely on their transistor Plectron and
 Motorola Alert  monitor  receivers.   They  have  now  been
 replaced  by  portable  pagers,  and are often available at
 hamfests in the $5 - $25 range.  Since many  are  in  rough
 condition  and  need  repair,  a  hamfest special is better
 suited for hobbyists who like to fix their own radios.

 Plectron and Motorola Alert  crystal  controlled  receivers
 are excellent for dedicated monitoring of local frequencies
 -- a task for which you wouldn't want to tie  up  your  400
 channel  programmable  scanner.   These  radios  are  fixed
 channel units and do not scan.  They can  be  powered  form
 117VAC or 12VDC with the proper mobile cord.

 The audio quality on a Plectron P1 or  700  series  is  far
 better  than any consumer grade scanner and the sensitivity
 and intermod immunity is outstanding if  aligned  properly.
 The  Plectron  500 series is less desireable.  The Motorola
 Alert monitors are pretty good, although  the  audio  lacks
 bass.

 No single Plectron or Motorola Alert monitor can cover  the
 entire  30-50  MHz  band, and there were versions optimized
 for each portion of the band. There were different  "split"
 models to cover segments of VHF-hi band, too.  Although UHF
 versions were made, they are somewhat rare.

 Both  brands  of  receiver  require  special  crystals.   I
 sometimes  use  Radio  Shack's generic 3rd overtone scanner
 crystals in the Plectrons but they oscillate on frequencies
 far away from their marked frequencies.  That's because the
 Plectron oscillator is designed to be used with  a  crystal
 which   oscillates   on   its  fundamental,  not  overtone,
 frequency.

 If you  find  the  squelch  on  your  Plectron  700  series
 receiver  has  too  much  hysteresis,  replace  R96, a 180K
 resistor, with a 560K resistor.  On the P1, the resistor is
 designated R81.

 Repair service for the  Plectron  P1  and  R700  models  is  |
 offered by:


                 Woodson Electronics                                           |
                 Plectron Place
                 P.O. Box 960
                 Imboden, Arkansas 72434

                 telephone [phone]                                     |

 Some replacement parts are currently available from Federal  |
 Signal in University Park, IL, phone [phone].
--

==============================================================================
Copyright 1995,  Bob Parnass, AJ9S        AMPS Wireless Development Laboratory
[e-mail] - [phone]           Bell Laboratories


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From: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: BC 700A
Date: 30 Oct 1995 17:22:37 GMT
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 <[e-mail]> writes:
>
>I am a newbie and would like any info re: the Bearcat model BC700A.
>Is this a good scanner and how much is this unit worth???
Any info you could supply would be appreciated. Thanks in advance--Bob



From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:09:55 1995
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From: David Crawford <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radio systems and the law
Date: 30 Oct 1995 17:29:44 GMT
Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Charlotte, NC - [e-mail]
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[e-mail] (Brian Humphrey) wrote:

<SNIP>

>
>It is a personally and morally commendable for any civilian (with or
>without a scanner) to report such activity to Law Enforcement. But given
>that it is not  uncommon for an impaired driver to behave in an impaired
>fashion, the monitoring enthusiast who should choose to "pursue" a drunk
>is just as inappropriate as one who would decide to pursue a fleeing
>armed felon.
>
>.....Yes folks, I've pronounced my share of dead Good Sam's.
>
>***If a monitoring enthusiast is concerned enough, he or she should seek
>appropriate ways to assist local Law Enforcement (Reserve Officer, etc.)
>
>Make your hobby last a lifetime by monitoring safely!
>
>SPEAKING MY PERSONAL OPINION
>
>-Brian Humphrey-
>


Brian:

We have a bad enough DUI problem that the civilian population HAD to
get involved with our State Highway Patrol. I have done my fair share
of DUI chases, and only one I had to do at speed. The basic routine
is to close up and get that tag #, fall back, and call *HP.  You then
become a pair of eyes for dispach, who vectors SHP and other LEO units
for the intercept.It CAN be done safely.

I will be happy to continue this discussion via E-Mail.

Now I'm gonna put YOU on the hot seat... ;)

Let's say I witness an accident with PIs, After making the initial call
to get Y'all rolling on it, what would you want called back to RESCOM
with regards to patient(s), ect.?

David Crawford   /   [e-mail]



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From: Roll_o <[e-mail]>
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Date: 30 Oct 1995 18:31:50 GMT
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you may also be interested to know that Blob at Bomarc Services reverse
engineers this kind of stuff. He has around 3 or 4 thousand scanner,money
changer,medical,bugging,cellular,two-way,dss related,tv
convertrt-scrambler,macrovision encode-decode,sat reciever,and a bunch of
other hobby related schematics on file. call 307-234-3488 for info on how
to get this stuff. He also r-e's stuff on a commercial basis. I enjoyed
the papers on sony playstation a couple of years ago.(that was not a
typo) He has 21 seperate catalogs, so choose wisely. Roll-o.




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From: Roll_o <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Trunked Radio systems and the law
Date: 30 Oct 1995 18:47:01 GMT
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my favorite was the guy wanting to know who stole his bottle of jack
dani'ls from under the seat of his cruser...on tone inversion scrambler
a few years back. Dui,( not us). Now about the topic of turning in people
you dont like on false dui charges....!



From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:09:58 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Clifford Uyeda)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: I want to upgrade! Suggestions?
Date: 30 Oct 1995 20:19:06 GMT
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  I have a Pro-2004 and want to upgrade my scanner.  I know that 800
mhz is not in the new scanners and will probably retain my Pro-2004.

I would like a scanner that has good freq. coverage overall and really
would like to do computer control with it.  Looking for software
control to database, scan, and whatever else i can do.  I have seen the
Opto Scan and seems to be very costly.

Are there any new scanners that come with a rs-232 port for immediate
hook-up?

I have been away from the scanner activity and would like to get back
into it.  Suggestions please...


Cliff


From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:09:58 1995
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From: Bill Hammon <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: FS: Pro 43
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:38:15 -0600
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Cell modified Pro 43 for sale.  Good shape and in perfect working order.
Asking $225
Bill Hammon
[e-mail]
http//rampages.onramp.net/~drhuman


From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:09:59 1995
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From: Bill Hammon <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: Uniden 2500xlt
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:46:58 -0600
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For Sale:  Uniden BC 2500xlt.  In perfect condition, both cosmetically and
functionally.  Has been modified for cellular.  400 channels with Turbo Scan.
Range: 25-520MHz, 760-1300MHz.  Has NiCad battery, leather case, and antenna.
Asking $225
Bill Hammon
[e-mail]
http//rampages.onramp.net/~drhuman


From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:10:00 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Ralph Kloess)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Going on Vacation and would like some freqs.
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:53:13 GMT
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Hi Y'all out there in networkland,

        I'll be going on vacation to San Francisco,CA and Boston,MA and will
be taking my scanner with me. Living in germany, I'd like to know some
interesting frequencies in advance, so I can programm my scanner
before I leave.

Please reply by E-Mail, and I'll summarize to the Newsgroups.

Thanks in advance,
        Ralph Kloess



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From: [e-mail] (PjB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: AR 8000 LCD Display problem
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:26:20 -0800
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In article <46s6i5$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Nickstir)
wrote:

__I've got a AR 8000 that will drop a couple of the lines at the top of the
__display, then after a couple of  minutes will "heal" itself. It doesn't
__happen all the time, just sometimes (5-10%) when I turn it on. Any one
__else ever notice this?????
__
__Also mine has a volume control that is a little "sloppy". I mean it has a
__loose feel to it for about a 1/16 of a turn before it engages, it feels
__that way in either direction
__(clockwise or counter/anticlock wise), again anyone else???. I'd hate to
__send the unit back for this stuff, because I think it is the BEST scanner
__I've ever owned!

I dont know about the display problem but I have cured the loose knob
problem......Put a little 'super glue' on the end of a toothpick and apply
a couple of drops to the inside of the knob........mines tight as a tic
and has stayed so for 8 months...


From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:10:02 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Andy Moss)
Subject: Re: CHEEK3 - Ultimate scanner? NOT!
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[e-mail] wrote:

: Please shove that cork in tight Andy! You're beginning to sound like a cry
: baby!

You wouldn't say that to my face so why say it here?

If you had half a brain you would challenge something I've said that you
don't agree with.    If you don't like it - don't read it!

Now *you* put a cork in it if you don't have something useful to say.

Cheers!

Andy


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From: bender@doemain (Michael Bender)
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jon galt ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I think that Ph.D. asshole should eat my shit and suck my dick...

Although my "USENET Experiment" post was meant as some light, satirical
humor, this person's post very clearly illustrates the rationale for some of
the "conclusions" reached in the "experiment" (should htere have actually
have been an experiment).

mike

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From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:10:04 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Bob Witte)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Will Spirit pagers work as rcvrs??
Date: 30 Oct 1995 23:41:01 GMT
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Don Hamil ([e-mail]) wrote:
: I've seen the articles about the Minitor pagers being modifieable as
: just plain rcvrs. Can the Spirit line do the same??

: Thanks..Cal.

 I have a couple of Motorola Spirit pagers. They do not have a
 conventional squelch in them so the receiver opens in response
 to the two-tone page or pressing the button on the top. For most
 monitoring applications, this would be very annoying.
 I believe that the Minitor has a squelch built-in, making them
 popular for monitoring.

 Its possible there is a version of the Spirit that has a squelch
 but I don't think so. A modification is another possibility but
 it would be non-trivial.

  Bob

Bob Witte / [e-mail] / HP / EMD / [phone] / KB0CY / 7J1AUE


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From: [e-mail] (christopher shustak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro 2004.  How I solved problems.
Date: 30 Oct 1995 23:43:32 GMT
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Back about three years or so ago (maybe more), I made the mistake of
buying a Pro-2004 scanner from Radio Schlock.  After making four trips to
the service facility (each taking three months worth of turnaround time) to repair
an intermittent with the microprocessor board, it finally died permanently.

Not wanting to waste another $50 service call, I threw it up on the shelf, and
forgot about it.

This past month, I got motivated to try to repair the beast since my local police
force in the big city went to a trunked radio system.  Following the advice of
a local rec.scanner reader, I yanked out the microprocessor board, and
touched up all the solder joints.

Anyone who has opened one of these radios can attest to the poor quality of
construction inside.  Each solder joint had globs of excess rosin, and the joints
bubbled no matter how long I held the iron to the connection.  Luckily, none
of the pads lifted off the board, and the microprocessor problem went away.

Well, another problem cropped up within weeks.  The receiver went dead.
I lost my temper, and ripped the whole radio apart to individual boards, and
spent the entire day touching up ALL the joints in the radio.  They were ALL
filthy.

Result?  A functioning radio.  So far..........



If you own a 2004 and find intermittents, take a 20 - 25 watt iron, and CAREFULLY
touch up the joints on the board (watching out for bridges).  It solved my problems
(finally).

The moral of the story is to open up the radio you wish to buy to check out
manufacturing quality.  My 210 XL was much nicer than the Schlock 2004 in
this regard.

Chris

P.S.  The sound squelch works great on those stupid trunking tones.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Oujesky)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Freq list for DFW on BBS's
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 01:17:29 GMT
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>There is a frequency list for the Dallas Fort Worth area that has been
>circulating on Ham BBS's. Unfortunately its dated in mid-1994 and has
>numerous errors.
>
>Does anyone know of a source for a newer updated list? It would be nice
>if someone was keeping up with it.

I'm moderator of the DFW Fidonet Scanner echo and I'm unaware of any current
list.  Most are copies of the list that date back to '91 (or older).  With the
new sources of FCC licensing information, I rather doubt that anyone will take
the trouble to again.

Over the past year several of the participants have provided details on the
public service trunking systems in the DFW area.  Frequencies, participants,
and trunking vendor have all been published.

A list of the local Sky Warn net frequencies is also published periodically.

What were you looking for in the old lists?

Later...




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From: [e-mail] (Allen E. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: bc100xlt
Date: 31 Oct 1995 01:43:39 GMT
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Sounds like you need a new nicad battery pack.



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From: Brian Chrisman <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Freq. in Orange County, CA
Date: 31 Oct 1995 02:05:52 GMT
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About the only thing I can suggest is since you have a computer, log on
to some of the local BBS' in Orange County. Dave's Amateur BBS rings a
bell as having freq lists for O.C. fire/police freqs. If you're into
scanning a lot, stop by a local amateur radio shop and they usually have
several different types of books with local stuff to fed. gov't stuff!

     -Have fun surfing the freq spectrum!!!
               -Brian KE6NCQ



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From: Ron Ling <[e-mail]>
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Subject: bearcat 120xlt portable
Date: 31 Oct 1995 03:09:52 GMT
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Looking for any mods for the bc120xlt.
Any responces would be appreciated.
Ron


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From: rew5808 <[e-mail]>
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Subject: FS: BC2500
Date: 31 Oct 1995 06:05:43 GMT
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new in box uniden bc2500xlt 400 channel 20 banks
    $275.
 b. wilder



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From: [e-mail] (X MAN)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: pro 43 modified for sale
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 07:05:10 GMT
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$200.00

leave note to attn- X MAN


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From: [e-mail] (STTS Guest.1)
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Subject: Re: How to Find Scanner Frequencies
Date: 31 Oct 1995 08:02:41 -0800
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I have received informtion, verified through independent sources, that
Radio Shack has indeed quit stockingthese guides.  However, some may still
be available through local RS stores that may have a few left in stock.

Leonard

stts guest.1


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From: vince carter
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Subject: Re: CELLULAR SCANNING SOFTWARE????
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:33:02 GMT
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Bart VanAllen <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Try using a cellfone in test mode!

please explain



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From: Keith Beckmann <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Cellular Scanning
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:34:03 -0600
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On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Ertug Yucebas wrote:

> What type of equipment did you use to intercept the cellular phone talk?
>
> I would like to purchase one to to use it in Europe my self?
>
> Can you give the Brand name or the manufacturer name of the equipment
> with the model number?
>
> --
>
> Ertug Yucebas
> [e-mail]
>

I don't listen to cell phone conversations, since it's illegal to do so
in the US.  Also, new scanners sold in the US are incapable of being
modified to recieve in the 800Mhz range where cell phone reside.

Beyond that, if I were purchasing a used scanner that could be modified
to recieve cell conversations, I would look for a Radio Shack PRO-2006.
It was actually manufatured for Radio Shack by Japan Radio (I think?) and
is a very nice scanner.  Cell can be restored in 5 minutes with a
screwdriver and a wire cutter.  I've seen them used in the $200 - $250 range.

New PRO-2006's are still available in Canada from Radio Shack for about $300.

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From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:10:14 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Joe Racco )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.home
Subject: Re: an HT from Hong Kong?
Date: 31 Oct 1995 11:53:46 GMT
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Hello,

 A local ha, friend just came back from Hong Kong and said after he
buys the radio and pays tax on it, the price is comparable to US
prices.
--

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      ║   ∞  Take Care & Have a Nice Day!!  ∞    ║
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      ║           ∞   Joe ∞ KD6WKP  ∞            ║
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From: [e-mail] (Eugene Kang)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Pro 26 Opinions Wanted
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>Bob Parnass, AJ9S ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Your PRO-26 is receiving images.  There are no USA cellular
>: phone systems in the 1008 - 1018 MHz range.
>
>: Because of the tremendous demand for cellular phones
>: the government has recently allocated space near 2 GHz.
>
>Do you know the exact range ?
>

It's somewhere between 1800 and 1900MHz.



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From: [e-mail] (DJBlu)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Pro-26 For Sale
Date: 31 Oct 1995 14:47:10 -0500
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Realistic Pro-26 Handheld Scanner For Sale

$400 + I will pay for shipping (USA only please)
Call 818-707-2174 ask for Jeff

  - INCLUDES 5 YEAR TSP EXTENDED WARRANTEE
  - Top of the line scanner from Radio Shack
  - 25-1300 mhz (no cellular)
  - 200 channels
  - In box with instructions

New from Radio shack will cost you $450 plus tax and $60 for the extended
warrantee.  That's $550 in Los Angeles (8.25% sales tax).  Considering the
TSP warrantee is included and is transferable (it follows the unit), this
is a good deal.

I know SOME of you have nothing better to do than to respond every piece
of E-Mail with your opinions of EVERYTHING different than the way you do
things.  It is rude for me to have to pay for internet time to go through
opinion mail for an equipment sale posting.  However, if you are
interested in purchasing this unit please call the number above.


From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:10:16 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Laws)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: BC200XLT Operation Help Needed
Date: 31 Oct 1995 15:03:52 GMT
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[e-mail] (Michael Davidson) writes:

>In article <46u9p8$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>>
>>I just purchased a 200XLT from a pawn dealer and he did not have the
>>manual for it.  I sure would like to find some help working the scanner.

To enter 154.4300 MHz, push `MANUAL 15443 E'

To enter 33.5000 MHz, push `MANUAL 33.5 E' (You can omit the decimal except
on low band).

To search between 153.6000 and 155.0000, push `MANUAL 1536 LIMIT 155 LIMIT
SEARCH'.


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From: [e-mail] (Peter Laws)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Bearcat 100xlt keypad help wanted
Date: 31 Oct 1995 15:12:40 GMT
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David Bowen <[e-mail]> writes:

>Hi

>Can anybody tell me what the key marked WX is for and how it works ?

I was going to make fun of you until I saw the *.uk address!  :-) WX is
weather.  The button searches 162.4 to 162.55, which in the US, covers
most of the main Government weatheradio stations (162.4, 162.475, 162.55).
Very handy during severe WX ...

Peter Laws
Electronic Postmaster
Radio Communications Monitoring Association
Associate Editor - Arkansas, _Scanner Journal_
Owner - SCAN-L
FAQ:  http://comp.uark.edu/~plaws/scan/scan-l.txt
RCMA: http://comp.uark.edu/~plaws/rcma/



From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:10:18 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Robert T Hilberg)
Subject: Hi-8 Canon Camcorder for trade
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Hi, I have a Canon UCS-5 Hi-8 camcorder that I would like to trade for a
quality radio / receiver of approximate value. The value is around $800
(at least to me, I paid $1100 and it has been used twice).  Thanks.wq


--
"How many black men were wrongly CONVICTED in our judicial system?" - Hilberg

                        "DNA, Schmee-N-A"  -  O.J.


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From: "Eddy J. Gurney" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: PR: EddyWorks Introduces Macintosh-based AR8000 Programming Software
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:29:26 -0500
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[Moved over UseNet newswire Oct. 31]

EddyWorks Introduces Macintosh-based AR8000 Programming Software

     LIVONIA, Michigan, Oct. 31, 1995 -- EddyWorks, a subsidiary of
The Eccentricity Group, today announced the first software package for
Macintosh computers designed specifically to program the AOR AR8000
hand-held wide-band receiver: AR8000 ToolKit(tm).

     The new package, believed to be the first full-featured Macintosh
program designed specifically to work with the AR8000, is easy to use
and provides users with an easy way to enter, edit and organize the
1,000 memory banks -- each of which has its own seven-character label
-- of the AR8000. "Entering labels with the 8000 is tedious at best",
said Eddy J. Gurney, author of AR8000 ToolKit. "I wanted a simple,
efficient way to take full advantage of the 8000's capabilities from
the Mac." That is the reason why AR8000 ToolKit offers such features as
drag-and-drop organization of frequency banks, full Balloon Help and
"hyper-accurate" display of the frequency labels: it sports a special
built-in typeface that is used when displaying and printing information
that will appear on the AR8000's LCD. "The special font really makes it
easy to see exactly how a label will look on the 8000 -- especially if
you use some of the non-standard characters", says Gurney. The font is
also used when printing for very professional-looking frequency lists.

     AR8000 ToolKit is being released as shareware, with an initial price
of $30 (U.S. list) and is expected to be available worldwide on Nov. 3.
"Shareware is the most cost effective method of distribution right now",
says Gurney. "Plus it lets people 'try it before they buy it' so the
software doesn't become 'shelfware'." A special "early adopter" offer
is being made to all users who register before Dec. 1, 1996: lifetime
free upgrades. Users who register after Dec. 1 will need to pay a small
upgrade fee when major new versions of AR8000 ToolKit are announced.
Maintenance releases will be free to all registered users.

     In addition to editing frequency banks, AR8000 ToolKit will also
allows users to edit the search banks and scanner settings, as well
as data not accessible through the keypad, such as the auto-mode
bandplan table. "Providing total control of the AR8000's features was
an important part of my design goals", says Gurney. "This involved
reverse-engineering the EEPROM data, but the effort was worth it."

     Several PC users who have seen beta versions of AR8000 ToolKit are
now "looking for a cheap Mac just so they can run AR8000 ToolKit ... they
really like it because it is not meant to be an application you use
concurrently with your scanner to 'make it better' -- its an application
that programs the 8000 the way you want it, so you can continue to take
advantage of the hand-held nature of the radio" says Gurney.

     AR8000 ToolKit is available immediately on the World Wide Web via
the AR8000 ToolKit Home Page, http://www.mich.com/~eddy/works. AR8000
ToolKit requires a Macintosh running System 7, an AOR AR8000 and a
compatible computer interface. Three such interfaces are currently
available: the AOR CU8232, the EDCO AR8000INF, and the OptoElectronics
CX12AR.

# # #


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Moto. Flip As a Scanner??
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:41:39
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In article <476ois$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Todd Penney) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Todd Penney)
>Subject: Moto. Flip As a Scanner??
>Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 19:59:59 GMT

>I thought I saw someone on here talking about using their Motorolla
>Flip Phone as a scanner for cell.
>What's this all about??

Can't be used as a scanner, but in certain test modes individual channels can
be tuned in for maintenance and repair purposes.


From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:10:21 1995
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From: [e-mail] (Hammer Idan )
Subject: Scanning the middle east
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:46:40 GMT
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 I could not find any reffernces for scanning the middle east. I am looking for frequencies in Israel, Jordan etc. (In the north part of those counties) i
or post it.


Thanks a million

Idan Hammer
e-mail:[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Debrantley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Need Frequency Tones
Date: 31 Oct 1995 17:37:13 -0500
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I live in the Chattanooga TN area. I recently purchased a new 9000xlt
scanner with the tone board. I am in need of the tones for the frequencies
in this area. If anyone has them please e-mail me, or if anyone has any
suggestions as to where i may find them, please let me know. I would
greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Michael B. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: On board Naval Communications
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 17:56:52 -0400
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As much discussion has talked about the ONLY onboard communications was on
low-band, well, on the Discovery channel, there was a show about the USS Carl
Vinson.  Strange, almost ALL communications shown were on UHF either Saber or
Astro type hand helds.  Also the flight deck crew all had on their Mickey
Mouse sets with UHF portables attached at their belts.  Anyone else see this?

/\/\|k.e


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From: [e-mail] (Brian Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Trunked Radio systems and the law
Date: 31 Oct 1995 20:13:43 GMT
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David Crawford <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Brian:
>
>We have a bad enough DUI problem that the civilian population HAD
>get involved with our State Highway Patrol.

I equate "had" with "must" (...as opposed to "should"). Think about it.
I can support inserting the word  "should" into the sentence above..but I
cannot empirically state that simply because I or others own an
electronic device that in all circumstances the word "must" dictate our
behavior or response.

David, as my post lucidly stated, I support those who accurately report
such incidents, but can find no reasonable justification for any form of
"pursuit".

> I have done my fair share
> of DUI chases, and only one I had to do at speed.

I'm not sure what "at speed" means (nor is it really important), but if
you had been seriously injured or orphaned your children would it have
been worth it? I dunno, just asking out loud. Different people do
different things...and this is not a one size fits all world. I publicly
commed you for your oncern

But germane to this topic... -MUST- SCANNER AND CELLULAR OWNERS REPORT
THOSE WHO THEY -SUSPECT- OF BEING UNDER THE INFLUENCE?
-SHOULD- THEY ADOPT A UNIVERSAL POLICY OF "PURSUING" THEM?

> The basic routine
> is to close up and get that tag #, fall back, and call *HP.

Bingo! That is exactly what any moral and ethical person should do. Quite
frankly, that is all that is necessary.

> You then
>become a pair of eyes for dispach, who vectors SHP and other LEO units
>for the intercept.It CAN be done safely.

Sure it can. But remember what I said about impaired judgement of the
suspected inebriate.

I had one scanner and cellular owner who was tailing what he supected to
be a drunken driver...what happened was that the person he was "tailing"
was a felon from a previous armed robbery who had used his ill gotten
gains to buy a speedball (cocaine & heroin). Yes, the suspect did
eventually did strike a tree. As the "do-gooder" approached the scene to
"check for injuries", the dirtbag rolled out of the car and blasted the
"nice guy" twice in the chest with a revolver (he thought the "Good Sam"
was an undercover officer). Yes, thankfully the Good Sam did survive...
but he swore to me he would NEVER do that again. I say leave the
"pursuits" to the cops...and live to actively report another "deuce"
tomorrow!

>I will be happy to continue this discussion via E-Mail.

Naw, ..I'll pass on that. But if you wish to talk about something else..
please feel free to write.

>Now I'm gonna put YOU on the hot seat... ;)
>
>Let's say I witness an accident with PIs, After making the initial call
>to get Y'all rolling on it, what would you want called back to RESCOM
>with regards to patient(s), ect.?

The intitial caller is queried for all necessary info. We encourage
multiple calls....but the dispatcher will seek no new info if all MPDS
protocol questions have been answered and a full reponse is already
enroute.  We're damn busy ya' know!

Stay safe, David!

TTYL,

Brian



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From: [e-mail] (Tombstone)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanning in Waukegan
Date: 31 Oct 1995 20:26:32 GMT
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I live near Waukegan IL. I am interested in exchanging information
w/someone from my area about scanning freqs in the Waukegan, Gurnee, Lake
Villa area. There used to be some local BBSs but they don't seem to be
here anymore.

Is there anyone from my area?


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From: [e-mail] (Drew Durigan)
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Subject: Re: Pro-26 For Sale
Date: 31 Oct 1995 21:15:33 GMT
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>New from Radio shack will cost you $450 plus tax and $60 for the
extended
>warrantee.  That's $550 in Los Angeles (8.25% sales tax).

But I don't live in Los Angeles and therefore would never pay the
ridiculously high 8.25% sales tax rate that they charge there.

-Drew in Charlotte-




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From: [e-mail] (Bill Steinberg)
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Subject: Re: FS: Yupiteru MVT7100 (full coverage) scanner
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:48:40 -0500
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Jim Wayda) wrote:

>Busted by the Price Police.
>
>Jim Wayda
>Captain, Scanner Price Police.
>
>In article <4710gp$f4g$[e-mail]>, Jeff Goldman
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Brand new Yupi 7100s are less than that.
>>
>>                         -Jeff
>
>+-jim
>[e-mail]


Normally I am 100% with you (assuming I am correctly reading your sarcasm
about Jeff's response to an absurd asking price for something), but I
gotta tell you, Lou Milrad has been posting For Sale messages for months
(years maybe) here, and every one has been asking much more than the full
retail price for the item when brand new, from an authorized dealer, with
full warranty.

I don't know what Lou's "story" is (nor am I interested in knowing); I
don't know why he tries to sell used stuff for more than the brand new
price of the unit, but it has always bothered me, and I was happy to see
Jeff's message...

Bill S


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From: [e-mail] (Murray McGregor)
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Subject: ** WTB: Scanner for aircraft frequencies **
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I still want to buy a scanner (up to US$80) for my son who is very keen
on flying. It must cover 118Mhz to 136Mhz in 50Khz steps. A handheld
would be preferred but I would seriously consider anything offered.
Doesn't have to be in perfect condition - one that needs some
'tidying-up' could be acceptable.

Thanks,   Murray

E-mail to:[e-mail] (Murray McGregor)



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From: [e-mail] (Tombstone)
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Subject: Bearcat 220XLT Test modes
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I have seen that many of the past test modes for various bearcat scanners
work w/the BC220XLT. Here is what I found

Power on with...

WX and L/O = voltage reading

2, 9, MAN = clears 9, L/O = screen test

2, 9, PRI = test freqs in 1-21 (note: the "out of band freqsbeen
removed)

2, 9, SCAN = test freqs (same as above)


----

Here is my real question, what the hell is this?

Do the voltage reading; now while it is displayed hit a number like '1' The
screen will read something like "UP 1.75" You can change this with the
up'down arrows You can now hit 'WX' then the down arrow and it will say "LO
1.5" This also can be changed w/the up/down arrows

There are "UP"/"LO"  settings like this for each number 0-9 (possibly
refering to bank?)

Does anyne know what this is?



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From: [e-mail] (GZiolkowsk)
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Subject: Re: EF Johnson Trunking Systems
Date: 31 Oct 1995 23:16:37 -0500
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In article <46o8n5$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Tom Swisher) writes:

>As an interesting side note, EF Johnson company has licensed many
>companies to manufacture and sell EFJ trunking systems, including
Kenwood,
>Standard and Yaesu. As a result, EFJ trunking equipment is *very* low
cost
>compared to GE or Motorola, and a lot easier to get. The result of this
>(at least where I live) is that there are more businesses using EFJ
>systems than there are GE or Moto.
>
>Another side note. The Optoscan 535 board for the Pro-2035 has a space
for
>a data demodulator, which will allow the scanner to follow EFJ trunking.
>The data demod daughter board has not been released yet. Unfortunately,
>Opto is not going to make a duaghterboard for Motorola or GE trunking
>(they don't want to mess with the legal challenges from Motorola).
>
>Tom Swisher, N8GQK

Yet another side note:  I don't think the EFJ system is "certified" for
Public Safety use yet (if ever).   Perhaps someone who knows more could
comment?

Glenn
N9EAU