MINUTES OF THE DECEMBER MEETING:¢ ================================¢¢ NEW MEMBER:¢ We welcome THOMAS WRAY. THOMAS¢ lives in TEXARKANA, TEXAS. I think¢ you will enjoy the OL' HACKERS and¢ will make many new 8 BIT friends.¢¢ HOLIDAY GREETINGS:¢¢ All the local members of the OL'¢ HACKERS send HOLIDAY GREETINGS AND¢ GOOD WISHES FOR THE NEW YEAR to all¢ our NON LOCAL members and to all our¢ many friends all over the world.¢¢ ANNOUNCEMENTS:¢ ALEX showed us the last issue of¢ AIM. In it they published ALEX'S¢ Presidents Message, and the club¢ minutes of August, 1992. All the¢ members gave AIM and ALEX a warm¢ hand.Subscription renewals for A.I.M.¢ were paid to RON FETZER, TREASURER.¢¢ ANNIVERSARY:¢¢ This December will be our 8th¢ year as an 8-BIT only club, having¢ started in 1985. This is a life time¢ in longevity for an Atari Club, but¢ specially an 8 BIT club!¢¢ CHRISTMAS DINNER (??)¢¢ Our ANNUAL CHRISTMAS DINNER will¢ be as usual in February. Why? Because¢ last year through an oversight, we¢ had to postpone it till February, and¢ we found people had more time to be¢ together, without time conflicts. By¢ vote we decided to continue this way.¢ More details at the next meeting¢¢ BBS INFORMATION:¢¢ LOU TRAPANI, SYSOP, and our new¢ member in Oceanside put our message¢ on how to join the OL' HACKERS on his¢ BBS (THE MACHINE - (516) 764-5748).¢ If you have any messages you can¢ leave them on this BBS or THE NEW¢ NEST (516) 234-4943.¢¢ ITEMS:¢¢ WELCOME DISK UPDATE COMMITTEE.¢ ALEX appointed ALAN SHARKIS, RON¢ FETZER and JACK GEDALIUS.¢ NOMINATING COMMITTEE. The¢ following members are on the¢ nominating committee:STAN SCHENFELD,¢ ALLEN ATKINS and BOB ULSCHMID.¢¢ MEETING DATE CHANGE:¢ Our March meeting has been changed to¢ MARCH 27, 1993. MAKE NOTE of CHANGE!¢¢ SPECIAL MEETING:¢ On TUESDAY MARCH 9, 1992 at 10 A M we¢ will have a MINI MEETING at the home¢ of JACK GEDALIUS. We expect that we¢ will be doing the> Disk Mailing for¢ the AC Magazine at that time. The¢ address is: 716 Hillcrest PL. Valley¢ Stream. Tel: (516)791-8639.¢ Directions: Go down MILL RD(Past¢ Green Acres) make a right on¢ Brookdale/Rosedale Rd and go until¢ you pass the Jewish Temple Hillel. Go¢ past the temple and make a left turn¢ on to Park Lane. Go until you hit¢ Crestview Ave.(4 Stop signs). Make a¢ right turn on Crestview and another¢ right onto Hillcrest Pl, on the right¢ side of the street (3 houses).¢¢ JACK GEDALIUS called up the¢ author of CHROMA CAD. He had a nice¢ conversation with him and he invited¢ him to join our club.¢¢ TREASURERS REPORT:¢ We are in the black and doing¢ well.¢¢ CORRESPONDENCE:¢¢ ALEX wrote to MARVER SEAMAN the¢ author of CHROMA CAD. He said we¢ enjoyed a demo of his program and he¢ invited him to join the OL' HACKERS.¢¢ A card from ATARI CLASSICS¢ MAGAZINE. BEN POEHLAND, confirmed¢ ALEX'S Letter to the Editor and his¢ article on WHAT USERS CLUBS CAN DO TO¢ SURVIVE. They are scheduled for issue¢ #2 of AC. AC now supplies a stipend¢ of $25.00 for a published article,¢ that fit certain guidlines. They also¢ have an AUTHORS KIT, for all you¢ budding authors. If you need it, you¢ can write to BEN POEHLAND, ATARI¢ CLASSIC Managing Editor for it.¢¢ DALE WORSTER from N.W.P.A.C.¢ (NORTH WESTERN PHOENIX ATARI CLUB)¢ wrote to ALEX and told him that when¢ he became president of their club,¢ their WELCOME DISK was in poor shape.¢ He suggested we update our own¢ WELCOME DISK also.¢¢ ALEX answered that per his¢ suggestion, we will be revamping our¢ WELCOME DISK also. He said he enjoyed¢ reading DALE's letters very much.¢¢ We received a letter from ALAN¢ R. KIRK from ACUNET, in KAIZER¢ OREGON. He found us listed in AIM.¢ They sent us a software package for¢ review. They in turn want a software¢ package in return. They would like¢ member produced software. They sent¢ us PAGE EDITOR - A WYSIWYG (What You¢ See Is What You Get) type of program.¢ It is for desk top publishing for the¢ 8-Bit. The sample of the desktop¢ publishing was very impressive. It is¢ somewhat like NEWSROOM except you can¢ have right justification of your¢ text. It will be disk #236 in our¢ library. We sent him a full disk in¢ return.¢ ALAN SHARKIS wrote a letter to¢ DAVE EWENS our member in England.¢ DAVE is installing an ISO2PC on his¢ computer. DAVE said that he uses a¢ XTEC interface which does some very¢ interesting things. ALAN said that AC¢ magazine finally came and that he had¢ an article in it.¢ A letter from JIM CUTLER our¢ member from England in respons to BOB¢ ULSCHMID's letter. He said that we¢ are a godsend to him because there is¢ not a user group within miles from¢ him. He has signed up with¢ COMPUSERVE. JIM is a very active NON-¢ LOCAL member of the club.¢ ALEX got a letter from THOMAS¢ WRAY. He also joined the OL' HACKERS.¢ THOMAS lives in TEXARKANA. He is¢ looking for an ACTION CARTRIDGE. If¢ anyone knows where it can be bought,¢ please write to us and we will pass¢ the info to TOM. Welcome to the club¢ TOM.¢¢ DEMOES:¢¢ ALEX demoed REPAIR STATION on¢ one disk, and a whole bunch of CX85¢ utilities. This disk will be #237 in¢ the library. REPAIR STATION lets you¢ list a messed up program. On side two¢ of this disk is DISKBASE.COM a¢ utility to help you organize your¢ disk library. Also on this disk,¢ PRINT 40/80 in BASIC, SUPER.BAS a¢ utility to print pictures in¢ different sizes. A real great¢ printing utility. It also has¢ MENUEXC.BAS a super menu program,¢ note however that it only works¢ correctly with DOS 2.5. We also saw¢ disk #193 SUPERB30.BAS, a SCREEN DUMP¢ picture utility for MICROPAINTER,¢ MICROILLUSTRATOR, GR.8 Etc. This¢ program is also on the previous disk¢ #237.¢ ¢ ALEX demoed a disk from our¢ friends at ABBUC in Germany. They¢ created a professional printer¢ processor. They had some great¢ graphics on the disk. I will go over¢ this disk at a later date. They also¢ have a lot of utilities on this¢ disk.¢¢ ALEX showed a DICTIONARY DISK¢ that will work with any¢ wordprocessor. You can either enter¢ the words in your dictionary one at a¢ time or you can let it read an¢ article and it will enter ALL the¢ words in the dictionary. This way you¢ can build up your dictionary very¢ fast. You make your personal¢ dictionary this way. Besides a¢ dictionary you can use it to create¢ spelling list, specialized dictionary¢ etc. It has completed docs written by¢ ALEX. This disk will be #238 in the¢ library. On side two of this disk we¢ have AREA CODE, CROSSWORD, EASY¢ CHART, FAST FILE BASIC, GAS MILE,¢ INFO BITS, HOMEWORK, INVOICE,¢ INVENTORY, SCRIPTOR BASIC etc.¢ Another dynamite disk to get.¢¢ ALEX demonstrated PICTURE PLUS,¢ a commercial program. A very easy to¢ use and excellant program. You can¢ use text to write over a picture,¢ move pictures side to side, up or¢ down, and do many other things etc.¢ The author is CHET WALTERS (CRYPTIC¢ WIZARD), who also wrote LISTER PLUS.¢¢ JACK GEDALIUS then did a great¢ job demo'ing KENNEDY APPROACH. This¢ program has fantastic audio messages¢ between the pilots and you in the¢ Control Tower. It is a very well done¢ commercial program, with pretty good¢ graphics, as represented on a RADAR¢ SCREEN, and worth buying. As usual,¢ JACK was very well prepared to demo¢ all the different nuances of the¢ program. Well done JACK. ¢¢ DOOR PRIZES:¢¢ BOB ULSCHMID¢ AL ATKINS¢ ANN RAWLINSON¢ HAROLD PEGLER¢¢ Santa was not as generous with his¢ door prizes as in past years. Maybe¢ next year?¢¢ Submitted by¢ Ron Fetzer¢ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<¢