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                  OS/2 Lan discussion              (Fidonet)

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From: Mike Roark                                        24-Sep-99 17:56:21
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   26-Sep-99 06:41:19
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hello Roy!

Wednesday September 22 1999 10:32, Roy J. Tellason wrote to Dan Egli:


 RT> What I need to do here is figure out a way to _automate_ that login
 RT> process,  so I can have a machine that'll boot right into using drives
 RT> elsewhere (on the Linux box) as a file server.

In one of the directories.. IBMLAN is a subdirectory called netprog. In that
directory, you will find a file called netstcmd.cmd. Here is mine..


=== Cut ===
@echo off
NET %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
@if errorlevel 2 pause
c:\muglib\logon.exe mike /p:xxxxxx
net config req /oth:janeroar
c:\mptn\bin\ipgate on
=== Cut ===

This starts the networking, and automatically logs me on, adds the other
computer (which was a win3.11 machine), and turns on ipgating. Someone will
probably tell me that I don't need that net config line, and it's probably
true.. But if it ain't broke..... ;-)

Have a nice day
Mike
Internet [e-mail]
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From: Dan Egli                                          25-Sep-99 21:40:29
  To: Peter Knapper                                     26-Sep-99 06:41:19
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

 -=> Quoting Peter Knapper to Dan Egli <=-

 PK> Hi Dan,

thanks for your help! I now have the OS/2 machine sharing drives w/ the
windows machine.


And FYI, in Windows terms:

There are 2 types of access:
Share level:        Anyone can get access provided the password they enter is
correct
(passwords can be blank - which means access period)
User Level:        Requires a NT server, or an emulation that will report NT User
names and NT User IDs. Each UserID is assigned a specific privledge.

Privledges: 2 types
Read Only
Full (Read/Write/Create/Delete/Ect..)



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From: Dan Egli                                          25-Sep-99 21:40:29
  To: All                                               26-Sep-99 06:41:19
Subj: TCP/IP Questions

Ok all.

You got my OS/2 and Win98 box talking to each other. I thank you immensely for
that.

NOW, I need more help. I will be attaching to a Cablemodem soon, using a Hub
to broadcast the Signal to both boxes (only got 1 nic, so hub is only answer
till I get another nic. then I can use one machine as the gateway for the
other) and I want to have RemoteAccess to the cpu. So I need the following (If
they are in the Warp 4 distribution, just say so and tell how to
install/configure them please):

Telnet Daemon/Server
FTP Daemon/Server (Both need user access)
Domain Name Server Program (so that I can maintain my own DNS entries, and not
have to rely
on my Cable Provider's DNS which is slow).
News Spooler (Must spool Usenet news on my HDD, must allow for config of WHICH
groups to spool, and must allow NNTP support).

I know I could get all this for Linux easy, but no boxes left to put Linux on.
It's on the machine w/ a dead HDD and I got no $$ to replace the HDD. So it's
out of the picture.

Thanks!

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From: Peter Knapper                                     26-Sep-99 19:36:01
  To: Mike Roark                                        26-Sep-99 09:33:16
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hi Mike,

 MR> === Cut ===
 MR> @echo off
 MR> NET %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
 MR> @if errorlevel 2 pause
 MR> c:\muglib\logon.exe mike /p:xxxxxx
 MR> net config req /oth:janeroar
 MR> c:\mptn\bin\ipgate on
 MR> === Cut ===

 MR> This starts the networking, and automatically logs me
 MR> on, adds the other computer (which was a win3.11
 MR> machine), and turns on ipgating. Someone will probably
 MR> tell me that I don't need that net config line, and
 MR> it's probably true.. But if it ain't broke..... ;-)

Ok, you tempted me so here I go. The line -

  net config req /oth:xxxxxx

provides access to a second DOMAIN (and you can configure the OS/2 Requestor
to belong to a total of 4 domains if required) as well as the default one,
which you can also do by manually editing your \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI file, find
the 'othdomains =' lines towards the begining of the file and add the extra
domain(s) there.

There you are, wasn't too painfull was it.....;-)

Cheers..........pk.


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From: Peter Knapper                                     26-Sep-99 23:02:24
  To: Dan Egli                                          26-Sep-99 14:55:17
Subj: TCP/IP Questions

Hi Dan,

 DE> So I need the following (If they are in the
 DE> Warp 4 distribution, just say so and tell how to
 DE> install/configure them please):

 DE> Telnet Daemon/Server
    Yes, TELNETD is provided with Warp, however be aware that Warp is NOT
natively a multi-user OS, so you need to be VERY careful how you set things
up, otherwise you may end up with an open system to whoever connects to your
machine. There are also some "add on" TELNETD's available, however they all
warn on the potential dangers of setting them up incorrectly and ending up
with NO security!!!

 DE> FTP Daemon/Server (Both need user access)
    Yes, FTPD is provided with Warp that provideds for Secure Users/Anonymous
logins and control over Drive/Directories used. There are also several 3rd
party FTP Servers available that improve on the capabilities of the included
Server.

 DE> Domain Name Server
    No, a DNS Server is not provided with standard Warp (it is with Warp
Server), however there is an OS/2 port of BIND available that I have used with
Warp.

 DE> News Spooler
    There is a News Client provided with Warp, and several alternative Clients
available (which most people prefer to use), but no NNTP Server provided.
Fortunately there are 3rd party NNTP Servers available (such as CHANGI) if you
need them.

Missing from your list but not included and available if you need them -
  1. Pop Server. OS2Pops available from the IBM EWS archives.
  2. Web Server. Apache/2, an excellent Web Server, plus others.

In all cases for the items provided with Warp, you will need to read the
supplied Doc's, in some cases you will need to read them WELL, and then ask
for help.......;-). The 3rd party offerings vary from very little included
documentation that expects you to be an expert, to extremely good.

I hope that gets you started...........pk.


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From: Roy J. Tellason                                   26-Sep-99 10:52:17
  To: Dan Egli                                          26-Sep-99 14:55:17
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Dan Egli wrote in a message to Peter Knapper:

 DE> And FYI, in Windows terms:

 DE> There are 2 types of access:
 DE> Share level:      Anyone can get access provided the
 DE> password they enter is correct
 DE> (passwords can be blank - which means access period)
 DE> User Level:      Requires a NT server, or an emulation that
 DE> will report NT User names and NT User IDs. Each UserID is
 DE> assigned a specific privledge.

 DE> Privledges: 2 types
 DE> Read Only
 DE> Full (Read/Write/Create/Delete/Ect..)

Eeuw, that's worse than I thought...!

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From: Neil Walker                                       25-Sep-99 22:34:20
  To: Mike Roark                                        26-Sep-99 14:55:17
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hello Mike!

Monday September 20 1999 17:39, you wrote to Dan Egli:

 DE>> I don't want username and passwords if I can avoid it.

 MR> I doubt that Win9x will allow you to connect to the network without
 MR> it.

It does.

 MR> And Warp doesn't afaik.

It doesn't. :-(


Be lucky,


Neil

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From: Erik Jakobsen                                     26-Sep-99 11:33:13
  To: all                                               27-Sep-99 08:56:14
Subj: how to ? route

Hello !

  How do I do the following :

                                 |     server running      |
                                  netcard1             netcard2
   net 1 (bnc) ---------------|     os2 warp 4     | ------------------(TP)
net 2
                                      or os2 warp serv entry

   tcpip: X.Y.Z.1-32 ( 255.255.0.0 )                ( 255.255.0.0 ) X.Y.A.1-32
   I want to connect  2 diff local networks on 1 server ... might be running
os2 warp og warp server entry
   i want to be able to use netbios over tcpip or just tcpip to connect the
two sides.

   Is it possibel and how might it be achived ?

   I've tried but the bnc-netcard alway get disabled, ( error on irq)
   protocol.ini does have entries to cover the netcard, but it doesnt
function.
   I'v tried 2 identical pci-netcards with diff addresses
   i'v tried 2 different pci-netcards
    the bnc (or both) allways gets disabled.

Bye, Erik!

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From: Cyrill Vakhneyev                                  27-Sep-99 12:01:09
  To: Dan Egli                                          27-Sep-99 11:46:26
Subj: TCP/IP Questions

Hello Dan!

25 Sep 99 21:40, Dan Egli wrote to All:
 DE> Telnet Daemon/Server
    Yes. It's a part of TCP/IP Base Apps. If you want multi-user access - you
must find 3'd party authorisation system. I'm use tnlogin by Kai Uwe Rommel.
This tool provide authorisation with passwd file and standard UNIX-like
crypted
passwords.
 DE> FTP Daemon/Server (Both need user access)
    Same. But my advice. Use FTPServer by Peter Moylan. It's strange but very
useful proggy. http://www.ee.newcastle.edu.au/users/staff/peter/Moylan.html
 DE> Domain Name Server Program (so that I can maintain my own DNS
 DE> entries, and not have to rely on my Cable Provider's DNS which is
 DE> slow).
    DNS with dynamic capabilites provide only by server's variation of IBM's
TCP/IP (TCP 3.1 or 4.1 on Lan Server). Also you may get port of standard BIND
4.9.x or 8.1.x on Hobbes.
    JFYI: I knew how to install all features of TCP 4.1 on any OS/2 version
with or without installing Java and Netscape ;)
 DE> News Spooler (Must spool Usenet news on my HDD, must allow for config
 DE> of WHICH groups to spool, and must allow NNTP support).
    I haven't information :( AFAIK INN port is.

Bye!
Cyrill                                [Team OS/2 CV004]

... Windows: The Gates of hell.
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From: Leonard Erickson                                  27-Sep-99 02:21:03
  To: Roy J. Tellason                                   27-Sep-99 14:32:03
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

 -=> Quoting Roy J. Tellason to Dan Egli <=-

 RJT> Dan Egli wrote in a message to Peter Knapper:

 DE> And FYI, in Windows terms:

 DE> There are 2 types of access:
 DE> Share level:      Anyone can get access provided the
 DE> password they enter is correct
 DE> (passwords can be blank - which means access period)
 DE> User Level:      Requires a NT server, or an emulation that
 DE> will report NT User names and NT User IDs. Each UserID is
 DE> assigned a specific privledge.

 DE> Privledges: 2 types
 DE> Read Only
 DE> Full (Read/Write/Create/Delete/Ect..)

 RJT> Eeuw, that's worse than I thought...!

Now you know why I prefer Netware.

From the Netware RIGHTS command:

Your Effective Rights for this directory are [SRWCEMFA]
    You have Supervisor Rights to Directory.   (S)
  * May Read from File.                        (R)
  * May Write to File.                         (W)
    May Create Subdirectories and Files.       (C)
    May Erase Directory.                       (E)
    May Modify Directory.                      (M)
    May Scan for Files.                        (F)
    May Change Access Control.                 (A)

* Has no effect on directory.

    Entries in Directory May Inherit [SRWCEMFA] rights.
    You have ALL RIGHTS to Directory Entry.

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From: MIKE RUSKAI                                       26-Sep-99 23:05:00
  To: DAN EGLI                                          27-Sep-99 19:40:01
Subj: TCP/IP Questions

Some senseless babbling from Dan Egli to All
on 09-25-99  21:40 about TCP/IP Questions...

 DE> Ok all.

 DE> You got my OS/2 and Win98 box talking to each other. I thank you
 DE> immensely for that.

 DE> NOW, I need more help. I will be attaching to a Cablemodem soon, using
 DE> a Hub to broadcast the Signal to both boxes (only got 1 nic, so hub is
 DE> only answer till I get another nic. then I can use one machine as the
 DE> gateway for the other) and I want to have RemoteAccess to the cpu. So I
 DE> need the following (If they are in the Warp 4 distribution, just say so
 DE> and tell how to install/configure them please):

 DE> Telnet Daemon/Server
 DE> FTP Daemon/Server (Both need user access)

OS/2 has these, but they're rudimentary.  There are other FTP daemons
available, including a Washington University port that's unfortunately
limited with anonymous access (and a bear to set up at all).

I use Hethmon Brother's FTPD, which is simple to set up and use, though it
has not yet been updated to support resume (not that it's important right
now, with only a modem connection to the Internet).

It should also be noted that your cable provider will frown on setting up
server software.  Though they will probably only check for a web server, if
anything.

 DE> Domain Name Server Program (so that I can maintain my own DNS entries,
 DE> and not have to rely
 DE> on my Cable Provider's DNS which is slow).

You will have to use your provider's DNS anyway.  If you set it up in
caching mode, then you're often-used addresses will be resolved without
going to the provider's name server.

What you'll want to use is BIND, available at Hobbes.  Setting it up is a
bit of a pain, of course.

 DE> News Spooler (Must spool Usenet news on my HDD, must allow for config
 DE> of WHICH groups to spool, and must allow NNTP support).

Changi is probably the best bet there.  I haven't taken a good look at it,
since I just used Vsoup and GIGO to gate news into the BBS.

 DE> I know I could get all this for Linux easy, but no boxes left to put
 DE> Linux on. It's on the machine w/ a dead HDD and I got no $$ to replace
 DE> the HDD. So it's out of the picture.

Something else you need to consider is the fact that if you're going to
plug the cable modem into the hub, you'll need two separate valid IP
addresses for each connected computer.

Unless, of course, you use a firewall product (such as InJoy's) which will
do NAT (IP masquerading) on the configuration you're using.  One box will
have the cable modem's IP address, and the other will have a RFC1918
address (e.g. 172.16.0.1).  Keep in mind that the cable company may use a
few such addresses themselves.  I had my network based on 172.16.0.x, then
the friggin cable company starting using my addresses (and you'll see them,
because the cable modem is a local LAN), so I moved to 172.20.0.x.

The performance of InJoy Firewall's IP masquerading is quite good,
incidentally.  It's fast, and doesn't muck up the server machine (if you
use this program, make sure to set the priority to the highest).

Mike Ruskai
[e-mail]


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From: Leonard Erickson                                  28-Sep-99 09:46:03
  To: Erik Jakobsen                                     30-Sep-99 08:38:11
Subj: how to ? route

 -=> Quoting Erik Jakobsen to all <=-

Your message was flagged Private, so most folks never even saw it.
Also, your "diagram" was so badly mangled I couldn't figure it out.

 EJ> Hello !

 EJ> How do I do the following :

 EJ> |     server running      |
 EJ> netcard1             netcard2
 EJ> net 1 (bnc) ---------------|     os2 warp 4     |
 EJ> ------------------(TP) net 2  or
 EJ> os2 warp serv entry

 EJ> tcpip: X.Y.Z.1-32 ( 255.255.0.0 )                ( 255.255.0.0 )
 EJ> X.Y.A.1-32 I want to connect  2 diff local networks on 1 server ...
 EJ> might be running os2 warp og warp server entry  i want to be able to
 EJ> use netbios over tcpip or just tcpip to connect the two sides.
 EJ> Is it possibel and how might it be achived ?
 EJ>
 EJ> I've tried but the bnc-netcard alway get disabled, ( error on irq)
 EJ> protocol.ini does have entries to cover the netcard, but it doesnt
 EJ> function.  I'v tried 2 identical pci-netcards with diff addresses
 EJ> i'v tried 2 different pci-netcards
 EJ> the bnc (or both) allways gets disabled.

At a guess, if you are trying to use both BNC and RJ-45 connectors on
the *same* card, it's not possible. You'd need different cards. One for
each type of connector.

Unless you *need* the two networks to be seperate, just buy a hub that
has a BNC connector. That's how I've hooked my old BNC machines into
the network with my newer TP (RJ-45) systems.

If you *do* need them to be seperate networks, you may be able to do
it, but you'll need two cards. And probably two IP addresses. Beyond
that, I have no idea.

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From: Mike Roark                                        27-Sep-99 16:46:02
  To: Peter Knapper                                     01-Oct-99 05:53:17
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hello Peter!

Sunday September 26 1999 19:36, Peter Knapper wrote to Mike Roark:

 PK>   net config req /oth:xxxxxx

 PK> provides access to a second DOMAIN (and you can configure the OS/2
 PK> Requestor to belong to a total of 4 domains if required) as well as
 PK> the default one, which you can also do by manually editing your
 PK> \IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI file, find the 'othdomains =' lines towards the
 PK> begining of the file and add the extra domain(s) there.

 PK> There you are, wasn't too painfull was it.....;-)

Not at all.. ;-) And thanks. It's been a while since the wife's system was
booted to Win31, and this is the way I got it to work..


Have a good day!!
Mike
Internet [e-mail]
This OS/2 system uptime is 2d 7h 18m 05s 437ms (en).

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From: Mike Roark                                        27-Sep-99 16:47:22
  To: Neil Walker                                       01-Oct-99 05:53:17
Subj: OS/2 <-> Win98

Hello Neil!

Saturday September 25 1999 22:34, Neil Walker wrote to Mike Roark:

 DE>>> I don't want username and passwords if I can avoid it.

 MR>> I doubt that Win9x will allow you to connect to the network
 MR>> without it.

 NW> It does.

Typical security for them.. ;-)

 MR>> And Warp doesn't afaik.

 NW> It doesn't. :-(

Better security?


Have a good day!!
Mike
Internet [e-mail]
This OS/2 system uptime is 2d 7h 18m 05s 437ms (en).

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From: Rolf Behringer                                    29-Sep-99 22:18:02
  To: Johan Zwiekhorst                                  01-Oct-99 05:53:17
Subj: TCP/IP Questions

Hallo Johan,

 JZ> Changi
 JZ> but it's in German, I'm afraid.

No, it isn't. It's in English.


bye, Rolf

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