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From: [e-mail]                               12-Nov-99 19:06:16
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: Re: Please HELP! Folder Class Object Problem with Warp4 - prize for

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

Dave wrote:
>
> >         Hmmm - I think that might still be a bit extreme.  What might work
is
> > to simply deregister and re-register the WPFolder class.  That would
> > hopefully set it back to its defaults - but to be ohnest, I don't know
> > what it would do to or for your folder instances :).
> >
>
> Thats worth a try... now how do I do that?

    Forget I even mentioned it.  WPFolder can't be deregistered. :)

> >         Something you can try to see if it will help is a non-destructive
> > MAKEINI.  Run it from within the WPS (through an OS/2 Command prompt
> > window), and rebuild your OS2SYS.INI.  Running it from under the WPS is
> > generally onn-destructive, and it *might* help.
> >
>
> If I do this, will I need to reboot to see if it works?  Rebuilding
os2sys.ini and
> replacing my current one will or will not lose my desktop settings etc?

    Well, this is assuming that WPFolder is even storing anything in your
INI files, or that they are even the source of the problem.

    However, no, so long as you run this from a command prompt within the
WPS, you won't lose your desktop.

> Yes, I have OD 2.0.1 installed
>
> However, the zip file "folders" open just fine, its just that normal folders
dont open
> normally.

    Well, the problem here is that AFAIK Object Desktop overrides and
replaces (parts of) the WPFolder class (at least when you have certan
features installed, such as the enhanced folders).  Personally, I don't
know enough about Object Desktop to know what effect it might have on
how folders are opened by default, but it might be worth uninstalling to
see if the problem clears up by itself.

    I'm still thinking on your problem - but if you're using OD, it might
be worth your while to post a message about your problem to one of
StarDock's newsgroups to see what sort of response you get.

Brad BARCLAY

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Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                              13-Nov-99 12:27:11
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: Re: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: "Brian White" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:12:15 -0500 (EST), Alex Bell wrote:

>I can get bootos2 9.26 to install to 2 floppies and can boot from them.  But
>now I have a much more serious problem.  I deleted Windows 98 from drive C
>and installed bootos2 there, but when I try to boot from it (using Boot
>Manager) it stalls and give me a SingleQ$ exception.  I am certain that the
>problem is due to BootOS2 because I also installed BootOS2 on drive F, and
>got the same result.  I had a minimal installation of an earlier version of
>BootOS2 on F before, and had no problem booting from it.
>
>I installed type=wps with the installations with which I am having problems,
>so I suppose I should try to use the minimal installation to see if that
>works.  Or I could try leaving out the VDM and other options to see if that
>makes any difference.
>
>Very disappointing and frustrating.  Can anyone give me any other
>suggestions?
>
>Regards, Alex
>
>
>
>
I had the same problem when running Display Doctor on the original system
I ran BOOTOS2 from.  I deinstalled Display Doctor, reinstalled the
appropriate drivers for my graphics card (Matrox) and was able to get an
operating BOOTOS2 partition after that.



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From: [e-mail]                 12-Nov-99 19:37:03
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: Re: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

"Alex Bell" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>I can get bootos2 9.26 to install to 2 floppies and can boot from them.  But
>now I have a much more serious problem.  I deleted Windows 98 from drive C
>and installed bootos2 there, but when I try to boot from it (using Boot
>Manager) it stalls and give me a SingleQ$ exception.  I am certain that the
>problem is due to BootOS2 because I also installed BootOS2 on drive F, and
>got the same result.  I had a minimal installation of an earlier version of
>BootOS2 on F before, and had no problem booting from it.
>

Try using the VGA option.

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 15:57:02
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Jerry Prather)

In message <80h8dj$bcn$[e-mail]> - larso@commodore.
(Lars P Ormberg)12 Nov 1999 14:32:19 GMT writes:
:>
:>But all companies do this!  It's called entering a partnership.
:>
:>If another company doesn't enter into a partnership with you, you can
:>withhold things.  Like sales.

Good grief!  I thought this kind of thing was settled back when
Lester Maddox was told he _had_ to sell his chicken dinners to
blacks because it was "open to the public".  Are you trying to
tell me that M$ is not open to the public?  If it's not, then how
come Windows98 showed up on the notebook I just bought without
their knowledge that I was buying it or my permission to have it
there?

Jerry Prather                    [e-mail]

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
                    - Me (circa 1998)

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From: [e-mail]                      12-Nov-99 18:08:12
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: (1/2) Re: Who runs this country?

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

Stan Goodman [Verio] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» > Somebody's running an abusive monopoly?  Who?
»
» When you threaten people with severe retribution (e.g. "We'll cut off their
» air") if they dare to patronize your competitors, that is an abusive

Sorry, but that's very typical pure socialistic thinking bull.

Physical threat != voluntary business deals.

» monopoly. Don't you read the newspapers? The recent court finding is that
» there is a monopoly, and that Microsoft abused its monopoly position, for
» that reason and many others.
»
» It's late in the day to be surprised by that.

http://www.moraldefense.com/Campaigns/Microsoft/Antitrust_FAQ/

http://www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/tue/opinion/news_1e9locke.html

...

http://www.byte.com/column/BYT19991108S0001

Jerry's Take On The Microsoft Decision: Wrong!
Decision neglects industry history

November 08, 1999

It is traditional to accuse anyone not bashing Microsoft of being in their
pay, so let's get that out of the way now: Microsoft has never paid me a dime
[1], nor do I own any of their stock, for the same reason that I don't own
stock in any of the companies I write about. Now I can turn to the Microsoft
decision.

Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson has given his findings of fact: 98 pages worth
in the single-spaced Times New Roman 12 point I printed it out in.
Superficially, it seems comprehensive, and I have heard people who ought to
know better say it is a brilliant analysis of the computer industry. Far from
that, it is both foolish and a disaster.

Foolishness
The foolishness comes from unfamiliarity with this industry. Jackson
thoroughly misunderstands [2] what happened to OS/2 (paragraph 46), and gives
as examples of harm to consumers, Microsoft's efforts to dominate, wait for
it, the Channel Bar (see paragraphs 311 and following). On a more serious
note, he is entirely ignorant of the real history of the operating system
wars.

IBM failed with OS/2 because IBM did not attract third-party software
developers. The honorable judge believes this was due to Microsoft's dominance
of the market. Not so. It was because IBM made a number of disastrous errors.

For example, at a critical period, IBM considered the Software Developer's Kit
a profit center item and sold it at about $600, while Microsoft was
aggressively giving their SDK away free. At one Spring Comdex, IBM was proudly
announcing you could get the OS/2 SDK at a reduced price -- about $500 --
during the show. By contrast, if you walked past the Microsoft booth and
looked at all like someone who might be a programmer, Microsoft thrust a
Windows SDK into your hands. I collected about 30 of them that week [3].

Perhaps that would not have been decisive, but at a crucial time in the OS/2
vs. Windows competition, IBM made another major error. Incidentally, that
competition was begun by IBM, at a time when IBM was by far the larger
company. The war was declared when a top IBM executive rudely walked out of a
Microsoft-hosted media/financial analyst event dedicated to "OS/2 - Charting
the Course For the Future." (Amusingly, the briefing charts and briefing books
for that conference glorifying OS/2 -- there was almost nothing about Windows
-- were generated in PowerPoint on a Mac because there was no Wintel machine
capable of doing that: At that time, Apple owned the desktop publishing
world.)

IBM's fatal errors were insufficient attention to CD-ROM and not recognizing
the market potential of incorporating networking into the operating system.
Apple had always had that built into their systems, but for Wintel machine
users, the only way to make machines talk to each other was through
third-party hardware and software. Novell dominated the desktop client/server
world, and having a certificate as a Novell certified engineer was a sure
ticket to job security. For the rest of us who only needed peer to peer file
transfers, there was Artisoft LANtastic (hardware and software) and Traveling
Software's LapLink. LapLink came with a four-headed blue cable for serial
transfer and a yellow cable for parallel transfer. Neither was very fast, and
it was often easier to transfer files by physically carrying floppies from one
machine to the other. File transfer for small offices was painful.

Microsoft very clearly understood the value of peer to peer networking if it
could be made easy enough for the average user. They brought out -- in
cooperation with Intel -- Windows for Workgroups, which became Windows 3.11.
This could be bought as software alone, but the usual way to get it was in a
package with two Intel EtherExpress ISA cards. Installation of both hardware
and software took about an hour (at least that's how long it took me), after
which your network was established and each machine on it could see drives on
all the other networked machines. That included CD-ROM drives.

Microsoft had long been a pioneer in promoting CD-ROM, and for years sponsored
the only major conference dedicated to CD-ROM. In those days, Microsoft was a
much smaller company than Phillips or PolyGram records, which sponsored the
now forgotten CD-I system as much superior to CD-ROM. The big boys said CD-I
would bury CD-ROM, and, apparently, IBM believed this since one of the big
problems with OS/2 was getting it to believe in CD-ROM drives. Early editions
of OS/2 made it sheer hell to install those. (In those days, 50 megabytes was
a big hard drive, and many operating systems simply wouldn't handle a
600-Mbyte file system.) While OS/2 was having problems with CD-ROM, Microsoft
was integrating them into their OS. The drives were expensive, and it was
important to be able to access them through networks since few users had more
than one CD-ROM drive.

At that time, there was a lot of competition in word processors, and the fact
that Word wouldn't work in OS/2 wasn't particularly important; there were
others just as good, and many considered WordPerfect better.

Then Microsoft came out with Bookshelf. This integrated a thesaurus,
dictionary, "Bartlett's Quotations," and a small encyclopedia on one CD-ROM
that could be accessed through Word. The spell checking was improved. Most
industry observers considered Bookshelf a stunningly valuable innovation [4].
Word got an instant boost in popularity. Over time, Word became an important
word processor -- and OS/2 couldn't run it, and IBM didn't do much to develop
anything that competed with it. This wasn't lack of resources, it was IBM's
business decision that the small computer was an entry-level system and
serious users would soon outgrow these "toys" and graduate to "real machines"
made by IBM. IBM didn't see Microsoft as a competitor for its core products.

In other words, the story told in this judgment is flat wrong: IBM didn't lose
because of Microsoft's dominance; it lost because it didn't take the
competition seriously. I am reminded of Aesop: The fox, chided for failing to
catch a rabbit, said "I was only running for my dinner. The hare was running
for his life." Microsoft, an unimportant company much smaller than IBM when
this competition began, was running for its life. In doing so, it ended up
eating IBM's dinner.

The applications development history is important, but it isn't given in the
decision. It can be summed up in a remark Bill Gates made a few years ago: "In
1989, I personally went to all the applications developers and asked them to
write applications for Microsoft Windows. They wouldn't do it. So I went to
the Microsoft Applications Group, and they didn't have that option."

Paragraph 47
Paragraph 47 blames Apple's problems on Microsoft. Like most of this document,
it ignores the real history of the industry. When the Mac first came out, had
Apple gone for market share instead of quick profit, it would be the dominant
platform today. Apple's business decisions dictated its small place in the
market.

Has everyone forgotten that at one time the only spreadsheet program available
was VisiCalc for the Apple II? That was a business dominance Apple chose not
to exploit, but it's hardly Microsoft's fault that Apple let Lotus 1-2-3 steal
that supremacy for PC boxes. Then for a while, Lotus dominated in that market.
They lost their dominance through silly business decisions, including an
insane copy protection scheme. Notice that Microsoft has only sparingly used
copy protection schemes. Both Dvorak and I pointed out in the early 80s that
copy protection was a quick way to sure death in the mass market. The point is
that in both cases, Microsoft's competitors lost through bad decisions, not
Microsoft's practices. Microsoft has never been all that clever in business.
What they have done is avoid disastrous mistakes in their core product
marketing. Microsoft doesn't so much win as avoid losing.

The conclusions in paragraph 47 don't follow from the premises, and the whole
paragraph neglects the real history of how Apple lost its dominance. Apple had
every opportunity to turn MacWrite into a winning word processor. They never
did. When Microsoft Excel first came out, it ran only on the Mac. I recall the
introduction at Tavern on the Green in New York's Central Park. Most of the
computer press believed that Excel guaranteed the Mac dominance in business
computing. Apple never exploited that edge.

This continued until well after the introduction of Windows, at a time when
Apple was comparable in size to Microsoft and Apple was absolutely dominant in
the field of desktop publishing and graphics processing. Apple's failure to
win market share was due to Apple's bad decisions, not Microsoft's dominance.

Note, though, that Apple still exists, and Office 98 for the Mac was until
recently at least as good an office suite as you could obtain on a Wintel
platform. A G4 Mac, especially if coupled with a low-cost Linux box used as a
communications server -- more on that later -- is more than adequate for most
applications except games. Apple has lost its ownership of desktop publishing
and graphics processing, but the Mac is certainly far from dead, and remains a
viable alternative to the whole Wintel world -- as my readers often point out
when I tell a story of a particularly painful "Micro$oft Windoze" experience.

Harming Consumers
The real joke in this decision is the section on harm to consumers. Microsoft
may in fact have become a de facto monopoly. It may have used some
questionable practices to maintain that monopoly and, in one case -- the Stac
affair -- behaved despicably [5]. However, before the awful majesty of the law
can fall on a company, it must be shown to have harmed consumers. Harming
competitors can result in civil lawsuits; but to make this a case of the
People of the United States vs. Microsoft, there must be harm to consumers.

And there isn't any. The worst harm the document can establish is that they
believe Windows 98 ought to cost about $30 less than it does. That may or may
not be true, but to me, it would clearly be a disaster if the government,
through courts, special masters, or a "Software Fair Practices Board" set
software prices for the rest of us. If Microsoft prices their OS too high,
I'll buy a Mac. Make it high enough, and Linux will take off like a rocket --
not that it's not doing that anyway. But don't let the government set prices.

The worst consumer harm the document alleges is suppression of innovation. It
doesn't show any because that's all speculation and theory and there aren't
any facts to support it. Oddly, this same document also charges that Microsoft
is too innovative, bringing out version after version of its OS whether the
new features are needed or not, and inducing applications programmers to make
use of the new features whether they are wanted by consumers or not; all this
in aid of increasing Microsoft revenue.

For instance, paragraph 61 says: "Microsoft has incentives to innovate
aggressively despite its monopoly power. First, if there are innovations that
will make Intel-compatible PC systems attractive to more consumers, and those
consumers less sensitive to the price of Windows, the innovations will
translate into increased profits for Microsoft." Well, duh. "Second, although
Microsoft could significantly restrict its investment in innovation and still
not face a viable alternative to Windows for several years, it can push the
emergence of competition even further into the future by continuing to
innovate aggressively." In other words, Microsoft has been too innovative --
although suppression of innovation is one of the consumer harms charged in
later sections of the decision.

Many commentators loudly mourn the innovations that might have happened had
Microsoft not suppressed them, but they are shy of naming them. None seem to
see the innovations Microsoft has made to Windows, which now incorporates
dozens of items we used to buy from third parties. These include calculators,
text and programming editors, search functions, games, file viewers, audio
recorders and players, networking, and, dare I say it, Web browsers. None of
these are necessarily the best of their class, but most are adequate, and
their inclusion does not harm consumers -- although it may well harm
competitors.

Indeed, most of these findings appear to have been written by Microsoft
competitors, who, having shot themselves in the feet and legs, now want
government Medicare to help them recover. If they can't get that, then they
want the government to shoot their competitor "to level the playing field."

I could go on, but it's pointless. Nearly every page of this decision
indicates that it was written by lawyers unfamiliar with this industry or by
partisan advocates who will use any stick to beat Microsoft and do not blush
to berate Microsoft for suppressing innovation while being too aggressive in
bringing out innovations. Contradictory findings of fact cannot both be
correct.

However, American public law makes it very difficult to challenge findings of
fact on appeal. This is going to have significant effects, one of which will
be heavy pressure on Microsoft to settle the case and be done with it. Better
to pay and get it over with than have this case using up executive time and
energy.

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From: [e-mail]                      12-Nov-99 18:08:12
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: (2/2) Re: Who runs this country?

If those terms include government regulation of the software industry -- and
power to "protect consumers" was clearly one of the things the Department of
Justice crowed about in their announcement of this decision -- then this is an
unmitigated disaster for the rest of us. If Microsoft had had to go to Webster
Hubbell to get permission to put networking in the Windows operating system,
we would still be connecting parallel cables and using LapLink and the
Ethernet chip set would still cost several hundred dollars for the chips
alone. Imagine the consequences of going to Janet Reno for permission to
distribute Internet Explorer free as opposed to charging a price "competitive
with Netscape." Imagine a government agency trying to determine -- as this
document purports to determine -- which browser is "better" and what
"comparable" means, and how low -- not how high, but how low -- Microsoft
would be allowed to price features like new versions of Internet Explorer.

A government marketing board to set prices and define "comparability" and
"competitive nature" is always subject to political influence and
manipulation. One reason for not giving government business power is to reduce
the temptation on civil servants to sell influence. This is elementary
political science.

The best this decision offers us is a small drop in the price of the operating
system. Whether computer makers would pass this on to the rest of us or keep
part for themselves, I leave as exercise for the reader. The cost of that
theoretically lower price of our operating system is likely to be government
intervention in the one industry that has sustained our long boom. The effects
of bureaucratic control in the aerospace and defense industry are plain. This
weekend in California, a judge decided it was unfair to lower the price of
milk; this in implementation of a regulatory system that is supposed to
protect milk consumers. Is that analogy too strained? I doubt it.

Fortunately, Gates is unlikely to cave in to any agreement that restricts his
control of his company or his ability to demand aggressive research and
development, indeed in putting new features into Windows whether we want them
or not. That's his nature. He built the company by stuffing in features, often
to the detriment of performance. He's unlikely to sign any agreement that
stops him from doing that. The Microsoft philosophy has always been to put out
innovations first, even if they are not well implemented, in the sure and
certain hope that user complaints will identify problems Microsoft can fix and
hardware improvements will fix the rest. You may recall my condemnation of
Office 97 as "bloatware" because it needed 200 Mbytes of disc space. Today,
you can't buy discs with less than 4 gigabytes, and the 200 Mbytes is trivial.
Gates has always bet on Moore's Law, and he has always won, and those of us
who forget it get egg on our faces.

Gates can hire the legal talent to tie this case in knots and keep anything
from happening for years. By the time it gets to the Supreme Court, it will be
heard by justices not yet appointed who will be called upon to decide issues
so remote to what is then current in the industry as to take a historian to
recall what the shouting is about. By then, Microsoft may or may not have the
dominant position it has. If it does, it will be because Microsoft has kept up
with the technology, taken account of competition such as Apple and Linux, and
come out with products that consumers prefer to the competition. It will be
because Microsoft is running scared, as it always has.

And I'll still be cursing because some new Windows 2020 feature has caused my
system to crash, and I'll still be wishing there were a small, reliable, easy
to use operating system -- and, who knows, maybe I'll have one, in which case
Microsoft will be trying to figure out how to put out a lower-cost version
they can market as almost as good. That's the way this industry works.

Notes
1) With one exception: I bought a copy of Encarta 99 at Fry's and sent in for
the rebate offer that effectively reduced the price to the California sales
tax. The rebate did come from Microsoft.

2) "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by
incompetence" - Napoleon Bonaparte.

I have to say that the temptation to suspect malice -- in the sense of a
desire to exert control over Microsoft simply for the sheer pleasure of the
power involved -- is high.

3) At that same Comdex, Byte, which then did the official Comdex show awards,
gave IBM OS/2 the Best of Show Award for technical excellence. As I was
presenting the award, I had to find someone to accept it. It took me three
hours to find an IBM executive willing to come to the awards ceremony to
accept what was then the most prestigious show award in the industry. Most of
their marketing people had never heard of Byte. Microsoft had been nominated
for the award and Microsoft people showed up in droves and were not shy about
expressing their disappointment at not winning.

4) I learned about Bookshelf from John Dvorak. At the time, we were on a panel
in front of a large audience and John took full benefit of showing he had
better sources than I did. Ah, well.

5) The amusing sequel to that story is that Stac's disk compression technology
turned out to be technically excellent, but commercially worthless as disk
drives became relentlessly larger. Microsoft eventually paid Stac in
settlement far more than the company was worth at the time of the settlement.
If Microsoft hadn't engaged in sharp practices and had to pay compensation,
Stac would long before have been Chapter 7 bankrupt. Of course, that doesn't
excuse Microsoft for bamboozling the Stac people.

...

FT -> comp.os.os2.advocacy (which these discussions better belongs in).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
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From: [e-mail]                               12-Nov-99 15:35:10
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Richard A Crane)

Can anyone comment on the working off/difficulties in
getting  working any of the following: ISA AW37-3D cyrstal
chipset card: PCI AW230 4280 Cyrstal Chipset card; or Yamaha
YME744 card or Aztech 368 DSP PCI card?
Richard A Crane
Barrister & Solicitor
slightly altered email (anti-spamming) rcrane AT
octa4.net.au
OR rcrane AT attglobal.net

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From: [e-mail]                           12-Nov-99 15:34:29
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: Matt Hickman <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Michael K Greene" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 20:45:17 GMT, Matt Hickman wrote:
>
> >CSD level at UN00000_.
>
> >Is there a CSD for TCP/IP for Warp v 4.00????
>
> Yes, UN10001.

Is this CSD publically available?  I've looked and cannot find it
in the usual places.

--
Matt Hickman
I don't even see how a four-dimensional coffee cup
could even hold coffee, much less a whole galaxy.
              - Robert A. Heinlein (1907-1988)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 16:06:19
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Jerry Prather)

In message <[e-mail]>
- [e-mail] (Richard A Crane)12 Nov 1999 15:35:20 GMT
writes:
:>
:>Can anyone comment on the working off/difficulties in
:>getting  working any of the following: ISA AW37-3D cyrstal
:>chipset card: PCI AW230 4280 Cyrstal Chipset card; or Yamaha
:>YME744 card or Aztech 368 DSP PCI card?

I recently acquired an AW230 card.  There were no instructions
for OS/2 anywhere in the installation phamphlet or the CD that
came with it.  On the AOpen site there is (supposedly) a driver
for OS/2.  I downloaded it, and called AOpen tech support to
confirm that it was in fact an auto-unpack file (I don't like
clicking on .exe files without knowing what's going to happen).
But when I double click on the file, I get a very Win 3.1 looking
error box that says "Unexpected DOS error 23".  Phone tech
support at AOpen said that I'd better contact Taiwan about it.  I
sent an E-mail to AOpen in Taiwan about the problem about two
days ago, but have not yet received a response.


Jerry Prather                    [e-mail]

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
                    - Me (circa 1998)

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From: [e-mail]                                    12-Nov-99 16:43:12
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:04
Subj: WINOS2 fullscreen and FP10

From: [e-mail] (Dr D.J. Maconochie)

Problem: closing a WINOS2 fullscreen session or a DOS fullscreen session leads
invariably to a blank screen. The odd thing is that I can use Ctr-Esc to swap
to
the desktop and Del to kill the session with no problem.

This has become a problem after installing the FP10. Doesn't of course mean
that
FP10 is the problem.

System is a Gigabyte 200 Mhz P5. ATI Rage Pro.

Any pointeres pout there for example ATI driver and FP10 incompatibility?

David Maconochie

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From: [e-mail]                          12-Nov-99 18:57:15
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:05
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:32:19, larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg) a ┌crit
dans un message:

> As I stepped out onto the Stoop, I saw Stan Goodman write:
> > On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 03:26:20, larso@commodore. (Lars P Ormberg) wrote:
>
> > > Somebody's running an abusive monopoly?  Who?
> >
> > When you threaten people with severe retribution (e.g. "We'll cut off
their
> > air") if they dare to patronize your competitors, that is an abusive
> > monopoly.
>
> But all companies do this!  It's called entering a partnership.

No, no more than "going into business" is the same as operating a monopoly.


>
> If another company doesn't enter into a partnership with you, you can
> withhold things.  Like sales.

No, you're legally required to treat all members of a class of customer the
same.


>
> Microsoft is not required to sell their products at any price to any people.
> If Intel doesn't want to do what MS wants, MS doesn't have to support them.
> Microsoft isn't the babysitter of whining computer companies.

Not, not the babysitter. The bullwhipper. The point made in the court
testimony is that M$ used illegal methods to prevent competing products
from reaching the market. If M$ didn't have a good enough education to
study business law to prevent their behaviour from crossing the line,
that's their fault, not ours. (And if M$'s shareholders employ directors
who cause the company to hire yes-folk for attorneys, then the shareholders
should suffer the cost of that stupidity.)



>
> Your problem is that when MS says "do this or you don't get to buy our
> product", it has success behind it.  You will in all seriousness reply to me
> that because MS is successful it has to play by a different set of rules.

By longstanding law in the US, if *any* company (IBM? ATT? Standard Oil?)
is successful at eliminating all competition, then yes, they have to play
by a different set of rules. They have to take on a MORAL responsibility to
insure that the customer, the end user, us here, don't get screwed, as we
have been in this case.


>
> >          Don't you read the newspapers? The recent court finding is that
> > there is a monopoly, and that Microsoft abused its monopoly position
>
> But when the finding says "there is a monopoly", it means nothing.

Ask 100 corporate litigators if a Federal judge's finding of fact says
"there is a monopoly" means anything, and you'll get 1 answer: it means
almost everything. It's all over but the shouting, in other words. M$ and
their high-paid sycophants, er, legal counsel, had their chance to present
your view (the opposing view to that of the Federal and multiple State
governments) during the trial and couldn't, evidently, come up with a
single element of fact that supported your view.


>
> To say Microsoft "abused its position" is to say that, my God, Microsoft
> competed in the market (and didn't fail at it).

To say, "While you were gone I drank one of your beers from the fridge" is
not the same thing as "While you were gone I drank all your beers, opened
your mail, and found the dirty pictures of your girlfriend in the shoebox
in your clothes closet."


> --
> Lars P. Ormberg     ICQ#:8827066
> mailto:[e-mail]
> The University of Lars:   http://www.ualberta.ca/~larso/

Tell ya what, Lars: Don't leave school just yet? Or find somewhere you'll
get a better business education while there, or just go straight into
teaching and don't get out where making mistakes that constitute violations
of the law can cost you jail time or mucho dinero?


[You also might check your HTML on the index page, because whatever program
you used to create it has butchered some of your indexing codes, rendering
them useless.]


--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                   12-Nov-99 17:54:25
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:05
Subj: OS/2 WARP version 3 plus BonusPak... NIB!!!

From: [e-mail] (Teeezin)

OS/2 Warp version 3 plus BonusPak
New in the box still sealed!
up for auction on ebay with a few other things:

http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=gregb10

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From: [e-mail]                           12-Nov-99 17:59:29
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:05
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: [e-mail]

I'd suggest getting the drivers for the AW230 card from Cirrus Logic's
website.

The AW230 sound card uses a CS4280 chipset.  You can download OS/2 drivers for

the card http://www.cirrus.com/drivers/audiodrv/os2.html

>:>Can anyone comment on the working off/difficulties in
>:>getting  working any of the following: ISA AW37-3D cyrstal
>:>chipset card: PCI AW230 4280 Cyrstal Chipset card; or Yamaha
>:>YME744 card or Aztech 368 DSP PCI card?
>
>I recently acquired an AW230 card.  There were no instructions
>for OS/2 anywhere in the installation phamphlet or the CD that
>came with it.  On the AOpen site there is (supposedly) a driver
>for OS/2.  I downloaded it, and called AOpen tech support to
>confirm that it was in fact an auto-unpack file (I don't like
>clicking on .exe files without knowing what's going to happen).
>But when I double click on the file, I get a very Win 3.1 looking
>error box that says "Unexpected DOS error 23".  Phone tech
>support at AOpen said that I'd better contact Taiwan about it.  I
>sent an E-mail to AOpen in Taiwan about the problem about two
>days ago, but have not yet received a response.
>
>
>Jerry Prather                    [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                          12-Nov-99 18:35:22
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:05
Subj: Re: Postscript Drivers

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 05:44:30, "Brian White" <[e-mail]> a ┌crit
dans un message:

> I want to set up a Postscript Driver to print to .PS files and then
> convert to .PDF format. However the postscript driver contains emulations
> for many printers.  Can anyone tell me which device will produce the best
> quality colour postscript files?


Make a bookmark of this page:

http://www.printers.ibm.com/872567520004D211/Web/nppsdr?opendocument

This always has the updates for downloading the "IBM Network Color Printer"
Postscript Driver for all platforms and languages, as close to a standard
PostScript color printer as exists. The neat thing is, IBM takes
responsibility for making sure this particular printer produces nearly
identical postscript files from every platform, making troubleshooting
print output a lot easier.

There are, of course, many other printer drivers that do a nearly identical
job, but it's a good work habit to create a Printer Object using this one
as your "Print To File" printer.

Interestingly, this printer isn't included in the DDPACK packages for OS/2
PostScript printers.


--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                 12-Nov-99 14:15:23
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:05
Subj: To Martin Nisshagen -- Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Sorry, dumping a whole article onto a newsserver like a huge
turd and then ending with "followups directed to XXXXX" is
an abuse.  Particularly for someone who's so concerned with
form, this is plain lousy.  (That's apart from the fact that
Pournelle is a clown and hasn't been right in around seven
years.)

Also to the point, I wonder where you got the copyright to
publish that article on usenet?  If you haven't got it, of
course you're aware that you're violating the rights of both
author and the magazine.  Then again, perhaps you feel that
laws are optional?

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 19:12:20
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:05
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: [e-mail]

In <80hkiu$9mp$[e-mail]>, on 11/12/99
   at 05:59 PM, [e-mail] said:


>I'd suggest getting the drivers for the AW230 card from Cirrus Logic's
>website.

>The AW230 sound card uses a CS4280 chipset.  You can download OS/2
>drivers for  the card http://www.cirrus.com/drivers/audiodrv/os2.html

>>:>Can anyone comment on the working off/difficulties in
>>:>getting  working any of the following: ISA AW37-3D cyrstal
>>:>chipset card: PCI AW230 4280 Cyrstal Chipset card; or Yamaha
>>:>YME744 card or Aztech 368 DSP PCI card?
>>
>>I recently acquired an AW230 card.  There were no instructions
>>for OS/2 anywhere in the installation phamphlet or the CD that
>>came with it.  On the AOpen site there is (supposedly) a driver
>>for OS/2.  I downloaded it, and called AOpen tech support to
>>confirm that it was in fact an auto-unpack file (I don't like
>>clicking on .exe files without knowing what's going to happen).

Just change .exe to .zip and you can view the contents with zipme or
something similar. I have used the AW35/AW37/Pro with no problems. In fact
the AOpen cards (Crystal chipsets) are my favorites. My new pet  favorite
is the Aureal Vortex cards. There are OS/2 drivers for the AU8820 only.
Excellent sound for $19.00. The specs are superior to all Creative Live!
incarnations. Imagine that. I use line-out through a Crown tube amp/preamp
 and it is totally silent. No hiss, no hum. Check it out side by side with
the Creative and the card with the superior sound quality is immediate
apparent.... Aureal. (The Aureal Vortex2 Super Quad PCI with real digital
output is only  $48.00 at www.bunta.com) This is the spec card that the
Turtle Beach Quadzilla is based on. The $38.00 AU8830 Vortex2 is the spec
card for the  Turtle Beach Montego II (and Diamond MX300) and has Quad
output too. The drivers are now OpenSource so I am sure new OS/2 drivers
should pop-up  soon.

>>But when I double click on the file, I get a very Win 3.1 looking
>>error box that says "Unexpected DOS error 23".  Phone tech
>>support at AOpen said that I'd better contact Taiwan about it.  I
>>sent an E-mail to AOpen in Taiwan about the problem about two
>>days ago, but have not yet received a response.
>>
>>
>>Jerry Prather                    [e-mail]

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Ted Sikora
[e-mail]
http://tsikora.tiac.net/
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 19:19:00
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:05
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Jerry Prather)

In message <80hkiu$9mp$[e-mail]> -
[e-mail]12 Nov 1999 17:59:58 GMT writes:
:>
:>
:>I'd suggest getting the drivers for the AW230 card from Cirrus Logic's
website.
:>
:>The AW230 sound card uses a CS4280 chipset.  You can download OS/2 drivers
for
:>the card http://www.cirrus.com/drivers/audiodrv/os2.html

Aha!  Thanks!  I had looked at the cirrus site (I think) but I
didn't know the chipset designation.  OTOH, there's a rather
large chip on the board with that letter combination on it, so I
guess I should have figured it out. :-(

Jerry Prather                    [e-mail]

"Many religions are worth dying for; no religion is worth killing
for."
                    - Me (circa 1998)

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From: [e-mail]                                  12-Nov-99 18:14:08
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 00:33:05
Subj: Re: Ensoniq 1373 Driver for Warp?

From: [e-mail]

In <80dkig$51s$[e-mail]>, on 11/11/99
   at 05:35 AM, [e-mail] said:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>  [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>>
>> [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> > I've found an OS/2 driver for the Ensoniq 1371 sound system, but my
>pc
>> > has Ensoniq 1373.  OS/2 refuses to recognize the 1371 driver.
>>
>> Damn ! There goes the next thing I am gonna try.
>>
>> > Does anyone know where one can get an OS/2 Ensoniq 1373 driver, or
>what
>> > other driver, especially one supported by Warp 4, is compatible with
>> > the card.  I've tried installing several of the Sound Blaster
>drivers
>> > without success.
>>
>> Same here. It seems only the SB16D2.sys gives some feedback: 'error
>> encountered when resetting soundblaster 16'. Do you have the same
>message ?

>No, depending on the SB driver I try to use, either config.sys doesn't
>recognize the DEVICE line, or the machine hangs hopelessly until I go
>through the hassle of editing config.sys.
>>
>> I'm trying to run a Creative SoundBlaster 16 PCI 'CT4740', chipset
>ES1373.
>> I bet you have the same card. Bought the bugger last weekend.
>> I am sure somebody in an os/2 newsgroup was saying this runs OK with
>Warp,
>> otherwise I would not have shortlisted it. (AND there is nothing on
>the
>> Creative website on the SB16-PCI).
>> So the thing will work, one day (gnashing of teeth).
>>
>> I'll be back with more news,
>

Your out of luck I went through the same thing. The drivers are for the
standard  Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI card. (ES1371) I have both a Creative
PCI64 (ES1370) This card is a repackaged 'Original' Ensoniq AudioPCI and a
Creative PCI128 (CT-4750) which I thought was a ES1373 but on other
systems ie; Linux, etc the drivers don't work. The chipset is a Creative
so I don't think it's an Ensoniq. I can't get any info on it from
Creative.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Ted Sikora
[e-mail]
http://tsikora.tiac.net/
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 22:52:10
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 03:31:18
Subj: Re: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 12:27:22 +1000 (EST), Brian White wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 15:12:15 -0500 (EST), Alex Bell wrote:
>
>>I can get bootos2 9.26 to install to 2 floppies and can boot from them.  But
>>now I have a much more serious problem.  I deleted Windows 98 from drive C
>>and installed bootos2 there, but when I try to boot from it (using Boot
>>Manager) it stalls and give me a SingleQ$ exception.  I am certain that the
>>problem is due to BootOS2 because I also installed BootOS2 on drive F, and
>>got the same result.  I had a minimal installation of an earlier version of
>>BootOS2 on F before, and had no problem booting from it.
>>
>>I installed type=wps with the installations with which I am having problems,
>>so I suppose I should try to use the minimal installation to see if that
>>works.  Or I could try leaving out the VDM and other options to see if that
>>makes any difference.
>>
>>Very disappointing and frustrating.  Can anyone give me any other
>>suggestions?
>>
>>Regards, Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>I had the same problem when running Display Doctor on the original system
>I ran BOOTOS2 from.  I deinstalled Display Doctor, reinstalled the
>appropriate drivers for my graphics card (Matrox) and was able to get an
>operating BOOTOS2 partition after that.
>
Thanks, Brian.  I didn't think about the video drivers.  So far I can install
BootOS2 successfully on the hard drive by using the lx switch, and by using
type=pm rather than type=wps.

Regards, Alex


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From: [e-mail]                                12-Nov-99 22:54:26
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 03:31:18
Subj: Re: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:37:06 -0500, Raphael Tennenbaum wrote:

>"Alex Bell" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>I can get bootos2 9.26 to install to 2 floppies and can boot from them.  But
>>now I have a much more serious problem.  I deleted Windows 98 from drive C
>>and installed bootos2 there, but when I try to boot from it (using Boot
>>Manager) it stalls and give me a SingleQ$ exception.  I am certain that the
>>problem is due to BootOS2 because I also installed BootOS2 on drive F, and
>>got the same result.  I had a minimal installation of an earlier version of
>>BootOS2 on F before, and had no problem booting from it.
>>
>
>Try using the VGA option.
>
Thanks, Raphael.  I hadn't thought of trying that, mainly I guess because
OS/2 looks awful in 16 colours.  So far I have been able to install BootOS2
successfully, without the exception, by using the lx and type=pm switches.
But it will not install with type=wps.

Regards, Alex


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From: [e-mail]                           12-Nov-99 20:45:03
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 03:31:18
Subj: IE

From: Ken anderson <[e-mail]>

Does IE 16-bit work under Win-OS2? I need to connect to MS proxy server
under BackOffice and it won't allow Netscape to connect.  I need to know
if I should bother installing it or am I wasting my time. I think I
remember reading that there was trouble running this under OS2.

Thanks

Ken

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From: [e-mail]                              13-Nov-99 06:22:21
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 03:31:18
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Jerry Prather wrote:
>
> [ ... ]  On the AOpen site there is (supposedly) a driver
> for OS/2.  I downloaded it, and called AOpen tech support to
> confirm that it was in fact an auto-unpack file (I don't like
> clicking on .exe files without knowing what's going to happen).
> But when I double click on the file, I get a very Win 3.1 looking
> error box that says "Unexpected DOS error 23".
> [ ... ]

    The error means you tried to run a win9x/nt program in win31.
    Try running UNZIP.EXE on it.

--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                    13-Nov-99 07:45:03
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 05:13:20
Subj: Re: IE

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Ken anderson ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does IE 16-bit work under Win-OS2? I need to connect to MS proxy server
: under BackOffice and it won't allow Netscape to connect.  I need to know
: if I should bother installing it or am I wasting my time. I think I
: remember reading that there was trouble running this under OS2.

    IE3.X installed when I tried it but I never bothered with 4.X,
that is the version that some people were having trouble with...


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From: [e-mail]                                 13-Nov-99 01:38:01
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 10:28:21
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: "Erik Schild" <[e-mail]>

Jack Troughton wrote:

> Stan... you're from Israel, so you probably don't really know what
> "government" means in British Columbia, Canada.  To give you an idea;
> the most recent scandal (but not the first, nor the nastiest)
> involving a sitting premier is an instructive little spectacle known
> in the press here as "Bingogate".  I invite you to imagine the sordid
> details.

That's old news.  We've had plenty of scandals since then.
In fact some people are calling the capital of Victoria 'Trough-ton'.

> To which I might add that BC is a very beautiful place, and everyone
> I've met from out there have been very nice people.  I lived there for
> a while, but I was very young, and don't really know the place.  My
> sister lived there for seven years, and she likes the place.  However,
> politics has a flavour all its own in BC.  The "father" of BC was a
> premier popularly known as "Wacky" Bennet.  I don't know if he's the
> first... maybe the guy from bc.politics could enlighten us?

If he's the first what?  Hope your sister's doin' o.k.

Readers please note that I'm responding to off-topic crossposting, not
originating it!

E.Schild
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]                                  13-Nov-99 10:08:27
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 10:28:21
Subj: Re: IE

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:45:06, Ken anderson <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Does IE 16-bit work under Win-OS2? I need to connect to MS proxy server
> under BackOffice and it won't allow Netscape to connect.  I need to know
> if I should bother installing it or am I wasting my time. I think I
> remember reading that there was trouble running this under OS2.

If anybody (and there appear to be not a few) doubted that Microsoft is
running an abusive monopoly, right here is convincing evidence. It is
certainly not "competition" to prevent access by any browser other than
their own.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

E-mail sent to [e-mail] will, of course, not reach me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.


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From: [e-mail]                                 13-Nov-99 12:02:00
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 10:28:22
Subj: Re: Sound Cards and OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Mooo)

[e-mail] (Richard A Crane) wrote:

>Can anyone comment on the working off/difficulties in
>getting  working any of the following: ISA AW37-3D cyrstal
>chipset card:

Dont know about the 3D version but the original ISA AW37 (4235 crystal
set) works fine.


> PCI AW230 4280 Cyrstal Chipset card;

Also works fine with the latest drivers from crystal.


> or Yamaha
>YME744 card

Have not tried this one.

> or Aztech 368 DSP PCI card?

Works to a degreem but does not support winos2 sound.

Craig

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From: [e-mail]                                 13-Nov-99 12:01:29
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 10:28:22
Subj: Re: UPDATE: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Mooo)

"Michael K Greene" <[e-mail]> wrote:

I'm pretty sure that UN1001 is for TCPIP V4.1 only.  The version that
ships with Warp4 is V4.0

For those who don't want to buy tcpip v4.1 or perhaps go through the
arduous task of upgrading it we are left with not much.

8620 seems to be the latest and will apparently upgrade you to
tcpipv4.2 but has many problems and errors.  In fact I seem to
remember IBM finally coming to the conclusion that you really need
tcpip v4.1 as a base to install 8620.

Whats the answer?  I don't know.

Craig
>>> Yes, UN10001.
>>
>>Is this CSD publically available?  I've looked and cannot find it
>>in the usual places.
>
>ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v4.1os2/un01001/english-us/

>
>>--
>>Matt Hickman
>>I don't even see how a four-dimensional coffee cup
>>could even hold coffee, much less a whole galaxy.
>>              - Robert A. Heinlein (1907-1988)
>>
>>
>>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>>Before you buy.
>
>Michael K Greene <[e-mail]>     |      OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311
>
>
>

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From: [e-mail]                              14-Nov-99 00:10:12
  To: [e-mail]                                  13-Nov-99 10:28:22
Subj: GA 7IX athlon memory problems!

To: [e-mail]
From: Filippo Sartori <[e-mail]>

Hi
I have ot a 7iX mobo with an athlon 500
128 mb ram.

with BIOS settings for DRAM = OS2    os2 sees 16MB ram
with BIOS settings for DRAM != OS2    os2 sees 64MB ram

Something is wrong in the BIOS!

Filippo


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From: [e-mail]                                  13-Nov-99 14:47:21
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

Does anybody understand what is the connection between whether Microsoft
did or did not do and whether government in British Columbia is cleaner or
dirtier (probably neither) than it is anywhere else?

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 09:38:02, "Erik Schild" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> Jack Troughton wrote:
>
> > Stan... you're from Israel, so you probably don't really know what
> > "government" means in British Columbia, Canada.  To give you an idea;
> > the most recent scandal (but not the first, nor the nastiest)
> > involving a sitting premier is an instructive little spectacle known
> > in the press here as "Bingogate".  I invite you to imagine the sordid
> > details.
>
> That's old news.  We've had plenty of scandals since then.
> In fact some people are calling the capital of Victoria 'Trough-ton'.
>
> > To which I might add that BC is a very beautiful place, and everyone
> > I've met from out there have been very nice people.  I lived there for
> > a while, but I was very young, and don't really know the place.  My
> > sister lived there for seven years, and she likes the place.  However,
> > politics has a flavour all its own in BC.  The "father" of BC was a
> > premier popularly known as "Wacky" Bennet.  I don't know if he's the
> > first... maybe the guy from bc.politics could enlighten us?
>
> If he's the first what?  Hope your sister's doin' o.k.
>
> Readers please note that I'm responding to off-topic crossposting, not
> originating it!
>
> E.Schild
> [e-mail]
>
>
>
>

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

E-mail sent to [e-mail] will, of course, not reach me. Sorry.
Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.


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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 14:20:10
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Lotus Organizer?

From: "Karl M. Beem" <[e-mail]>

Is Organizer available for OS/2?  It wasn't listed on ShopIBM.

Karl



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From: [e-mail]                                   13-Nov-99 15:00:20
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: disk administrator and foreign OSes?

From: [e-mail] (F. Heitkamp)

In message <[e-mail]> - [e-mail] ([e-mail])7
Nov 1999 21:12:37 GMT writes:
>
>
>Regarding HPFS partitions, change the partition type from 07 to
>87 (hex).  Think that's it.  Check deja.com for details.  You
>can probably find someting there for other partiton types too.
>I use gtdisk (or maybe sedit), but any partition editor will do.
>
I'm sure the linux fdisk would work fine.  However, reading the
disks with Linux may not work properly then.  Anyway the most
annoying part of the problem is that NT assigns the C: partition
to the fat partition, and assigns some other letter to the NTFS file
system where NT is installed.  One would think that it would look
on the NTFS file system and decide that maybe it should assign C:
there.

Fred





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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 15:09:09
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: Lotus Organizer?

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 14:20:20, "Karl M. Beem" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Is Organizer available for OS/2?  It wasn't listed on ShopIBM.
>

It's only available as part of Smartsuite for Warp 4.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 10:39:14
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <yHQxxE9f8dqd-pn2-iPrtwb87OYQF@POBLANO>, on 11/13/99 at 02:47 PM,
   [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) said:

> Does anybody understand what is the connection between whether Microsoft
>  did or did not do and whether government in British Columbia is cleaner
> or  dirtier (probably neither) than it is anywhere else?

Nope. But since you brought it up, I am sad to say as a US citizen, the I
doubt it is anywhere near as corrupt as any city here in the US with more
than 10,000 people. Any city which can run a commuter train system
basically on the honor system must be in a country of respectful, honest
people. If they tried that in New York, the TA wouldn't get $10 a day from
fares.

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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 16:19:11
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: OS/2 & >64 MB Detection on new boards

From: Karen Field <[e-mail]>


"Timothy J. Bogart" wrote:
> This seems a bit puzzling.  Back in 94 or so, I had the
> problem with an ALR, and thought it was funny that
> I wound up setting the BIOS setting to "NT" to
> get it to work.  Now I never tried NT on the machines,
> but of course, this implies that would not work?  Or
> that NT and OS/2 differentiated at some point?

Right - NT/Win9x use a completely different style of BIOS call to
get memory information now; you can check the WWW site listed earlier
in this thread, looking for INT 15H; AX=8820 or 8810, as I recall....

Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-

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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 15:14:12
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: GA 7IX athlon memory problems!

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:10:25, Filippo Sartori <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Hi
> I have ot a 7iX mobo with an athlon 500
> 128 mb ram.
>
> with BIOS settings for DRAM = OS2    os2 sees 16MB ram
> with BIOS settings for DRAM != OS2    os2 sees 64MB ram
>
> Something is wrong in the BIOS!

There was a posting on another thread that provided
the details of the BIOS INT 15 calls that are the problem.

The BIOS you have does not support the E801 (?)
call that is used by OS/2 to determine the extended
memory mapping. This call was removed to allow
for ACPI at one point. The posting also indicated
that in October the code was refined (?) to allow for
the presence on the E801 call as well as support
for ACPI.

Send MANY, MANY nasty E-Mails fo you motherboard
manufacturer to bring there BIOS up to spec.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                            13-Nov-99 08:38:16
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: Can't print with spooler on Optra 40

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

Had a similar SYS3175 in PMSPOOL.  Deleted all printers and drivers and
re-installed.  Be sure and reboot after deleting each printer and its
driver to clean up everything.

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Running Warp V 4.0 with FP 12; Lexmark Optra 40.  When
> attempting to print a file with the spooler enabled, I get a
> SYS3175 in PMSPOOL.EXE @ 1cb4bcaf (access violation -
> 0001:0003bcaf).  Any ideas about what causes this?
> Wes Aman
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 15:39:19
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: GA 7IX athlon memory problems!

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 15:14:25, [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)
wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:10:25, Filippo Sartori <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > I have ot a 7iX mobo with an athlon 500
> > 128 mb ram.
> >
> > with BIOS settings for DRAM = OS2    os2 sees 16MB ram
> > with BIOS settings for DRAM != OS2    os2 sees 64MB ram
> >
> > Something is wrong in the BIOS!

I found the message and here is the relevant information

The posting was from Frank Field <[e-mail]> under the
subject "OS/2 & >64 MB Detection on new boards"
dated 1999/11/09

                     =======

                     Dear Sir,

                     I'm responding to your FAX about BIOS problems
sizing memory
                     above 64MB with OS/2.

                     OS/2 and Windows NT/9x use different BIOS calls
to determine
                     how much memory is available.  OS/2 uses INT
15h,AX=E801h
                     while Windows uses INT 15h,AX=E820h.

                     Look here, http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int.htm
                     <http://www.ctyme.com/intr/int.htm>  to see the
details.

                     Award has had support for the E801 call since
late in 1995.
                     Recently, though, this support was made
conditional on ACPI
                     in order to pass an Intel "Component Validation
Test".  In other words a BIOS
                     with ACPI support could not have E801 support.
                     Very recently (October), this code was refined to
allow the
                     E801 support to be included even if ACPI is
supported.

                     In summary, your BIOS doesn't have support for
the runtime
                     call OS/2 needs to correctly determine how much
memory
                     above 64MB is available.  It is possible that a
BIOS upgrade
                     from Gigabyte might fix this.

                     I hope this clarifies what is happening for you,
and regret that we can't make
                     the BIOS support OS/2.

                     =======

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 16:17:02
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: Re: GA 7IX athlon memory problems!

From: Karen Field <[e-mail]>


Filippo Sartori wrote:
>
> Hi
> I have ot a 7iX mobo with an athlon 500
> 128 mb ram.
>
> with BIOS settings for DRAM = OS2    os2 sees 16MB ram
> with BIOS settings for DRAM != OS2    os2 sees 64MB ram
>
> Something is wrong in the BIOS!
>

Exactly - I've been posting on this subject for about a week and
a half - so far, the *ONLY* Athlon board that seems to have a
working INT 15H; AX=E801 BIOS is the ASUS K7M with their AMI BIOS;
OTOH, I *have* heard from Gigabyte that they are working on this,
and they now know everything that I do.

IBM, actually, is also aware of this; however, they see the
revision of the ACPI spec as the solution - apparently, changing
the way in which OS/2 identifies memory to match that of
Win NT/9x constitutes a "design" change that they are not
prepared to do at this time - since IBM has made sure all the BIOS
manufacturers know how OS/2 detects memory, in their view it's up
to the BIOS makers to be compliant.

With the revision of the ACPI spec, we should be able to complain
to the board maker to get it fixed.  I know for a fact that
there are people at Award/Phoenix that are aware of this issue, but
they aren't going to issue BIOS revisions unless the board maker
asks (pays?) for an update/revision.

Last I looked, the Gigabyte BIOS rev was still at F1, which does not
fix the problem.  So, keep after them.......

Frank Field
[e-mail]
O-

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From: [e-mail]                      13-Nov-99 17:16:20
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 12:46:02
Subj: To Raphael Tennenbaum

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

You got a point. I have canceled the article in question.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
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From: [e-mail]                                 13-Nov-99 18:27:07
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 16:36:24
Subj: ABIT BE6-II ?

From: [e-mail] (Bruce LaZerte)

ABIT BE6-II
Anybody tried *this* board with OS/2?

It's sort of like the SOYO SY-6BA+IV in that it supports ULTRA ATA-66 with
a separate controller (HighPoint). So DaniS506 should work.

But what about identifying memory > 64MB? There are several recent boards
whose BIOS can't do it and I'm afraid that the SOYO and this ABIT might
have this problem too.

----------------------
Bruce LaZerte
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
freshwat at muskoka dot com

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From: [e-mail]                     13-Nov-99 18:47:29
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 16:36:24
Subj: Re: To Raphael Tennenbaum

From: [e-mail]

In article <T=wsOHDc=[e-mail]>,
  Remove silverware to reply wrote:

> You got a point. I have canceled the article in question.

You'll also want to ask Deja.com to purge it from their data base,
since they do not accept cancel requests. (Not even if you posted it
from Deja!)

--
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[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                              13-Nov-99 19:02:13
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 16:36:24
Subj: Where i get Microsoft c/c++ v6.0/7.0 Help Files?

From: [e-mail]

I downloaded a minimal installed .zip file of Microsoft c/c++ v6.0
package from internet ,but it hasn't the help files of it that is
necessary to assist for programming . Does anyone know where i could
get it so it is to be "free" .
- thanks - Majid


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                    13-Nov-99 15:25:27
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 16:36:24
Subj: Re: GA 7IX athlon memory problems!

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

Daniella Engert (DANIS506.ADD fame) has a patch utility.

From the HARDWARE mailing list:

"I've written a utility to patch the OS2LDR for all recent versions of
OS/2 so that this memory detection defect shouldn't be an issue any
longer. I had only one machine to test it, a GigaByte GA7IX Athlon
mobo, and it works as intended.

The utility is available on request from now on.

Ciao,
  Dani"

Not sure Dani would want her e-mail address posted in usenet .....but
if you have her IDE drivers, you can probably find it in the readme
files.

In article <[e-mail]>,
Karen Field <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>Filippo Sartori wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> I have ot a 7iX mobo with an athlon 500
>> 128 mb ram.
>>
>> with BIOS settings for DRAM = OS2    os2 sees 16MB ram
>> with BIOS settings for DRAM != OS2    os2 sees 64MB ram
>>
>> Something is wrong in the BIOS!
>>
>
>Exactly - I've been posting on this subject for about a week and
>a half - so far, the *ONLY* Athlon board that seems to have a
>working INT 15H; AX=E801 BIOS is the ASUS K7M with their AMI BIOS;
>OTOH, I *have* heard from Gigabyte that they are working on this,
>and they now know everything that I do.
>
>IBM, actually, is also aware of this; however, they see the
>revision of the ACPI spec as the solution - apparently, changing
>the way in which OS/2 identifies memory to match that of
>Win NT/9x constitutes a "design" change that they are not
>prepared to do at this time - since IBM has made sure all the BIOS
>manufacturers know how OS/2 detects memory, in their view it's up
>to the BIOS makers to be compliant.
>
>With the revision of the ACPI spec, we should be able to complain
>to the board maker to get it fixed.  I know for a fact that
>there are people at Award/Phoenix that are aware of this issue, but
>they aren't going to issue BIOS revisions unless the board maker
>asks (pays?) for an update/revision.
>
>Last I looked, the Gigabyte BIOS rev was still at F1, which does not
>fix the problem.  So, keep after them.......
>
>Frank Field
>[e-mail]
>O-

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From: [e-mail]                                13-Nov-99 12:51:14
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 16:36:24
Subj: Re: Warp3 FP42 and Netscape 4.61

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <382bc6e5$0$[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Jerry Lapham) wrote:
>Just thought I'd pass on my experience:
>
>1) I run Warp3, FixPack 32 as my main operating system on drive E.  I had
>a 300MB partition (drive F) set aside for a maintenance partition which I
>had never gotten around to installing anything on.
>
>2) I downloaded and tried to install Netscape 4.61 on drive H.  Each time
>I tried to run the Install program, I got the following:
>
>EPFIE602: An error occurred while attempting to create a directory.
>Ensure you have write access to a drive with adequate space.
>

Jerry, you happen to be running HPFS386? If so, you should clear out the ACL
lists with prepacl.exe while booted with hpfs386 running.

>3) I installed Warp3 (red) with DOS but not Windows support on drive F.
>Then I applied FixPack 32.  After that I installed my ver 2.22 drivers for
>the Matrox Mystique.  I used a hex editor to change SYSLEVEL.OS2 to appear
>to be Warp Server and installed FixPack 42.
>
>4) Warp3 with FixPack 42 seems to work OK.  I even tried running a couple
>of DOS programs and they seem to run OK.  While I was at it, I decided to
>try running the Netscape 4.61 Install and it installed fine on drive H.
>Unfortunately, when I try to run Netscape 4.61 while booted to drive F,
>Netscape doesn't start up.
>
>5) But Netscape 4.61 *does* run OK when booted to drive E (FP 32).
>
>6) When I'm feeling brave, I plan to try installing Windows support on
>drive F and see if FP 42 will work with it.  If that works and I can get
>Netscape 4.61 working, I may try applying FP 42 to drive E.
>

I'd be interested in hearing how this works for you. TIA.

>7) Some of the other FixPack installation methods are tempting, but I'm
>glad I use diskettes.  This is at least the third time I've used my set of
>FP 32 diskettes and I'll probably need the FP 42 set multiple times, too.
>

Jerry, the FIRST time you install a fixpak via the CID method, you'll NEVER
go back to the floppy method! Never! Grab the readme.cid file from any of the
fixpaks and study up. It's REALLY better, FASTER and can be done from the hard
drive on the target computer!

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*
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From: [e-mail]                                13-Nov-99 12:56:03
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 16:36:24
Subj: Re: OS/2 WARP version 3 plus BonusPak... NIB!!!

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Teeezin) wrote:
>OS/2 Warp version 3 plus BonusPak
>New in the box still sealed!
>up for auction on ebay with a few other things:
>

What version? RED, BLUE or CONNECT? One is worthless, one is better and the
last one if BEST...

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*            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...
*
*       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at:
*
*
*
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*
*
*
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From: [e-mail]                                13-Nov-99 14:27:13
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 16:36:24
Subj: MKISOFS...

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

Hey CDRECORD users...

Anyone happen to have a mkisofs utility that will automatically create
multiple
ISO images of a VERY LARGE target hard drive? That is a utility that will
automatically make multiple 650meg ISO images of a 13gig hard drive partition?

I can do this long hand, but I'm looking for a "robot" version.

TIA

--

*******************************************************************************

*            Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free...
*
*       Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at:
*
*
*
*                      GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE!
*
*
*
*                     http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx
*
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From: [e-mail]                      13-Nov-99 21:08:27
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 16:36:24
Subj: Re: GA 7IX athlon memory problems!

From: [e-mail] (Carsten Frank)

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:25:54, [e-mail] (Dan Casey) wrote:

> Daniella Engert (DANIS506.ADD fame) has a patch utility.
>
> From the HARDWARE mailing list:
>
> "I've written a utility to patch the OS2LDR for all recent versions of
> OS/2 so that this memory detection defect shouldn't be an issue any
> longer. I had only one machine to test it, a GigaByte GA7IX Athlon
> mobo, and it works as intended.
>
> The utility is available on request from now on.
>
> Ciao,
>   Dani"
>
> Not sure Dani would want her e-mail address posted in usenet .....but
> if you have her IDE drivers, you can probably find it in the readme
> files.
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
> Karen Field <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Filippo Sartori wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >> I have ot a 7iX mobo with an athlon 500
> >> 128 mb ram.
> >>
> >> with BIOS settings for DRAM = OS2    os2 sees 16MB ram
> >> with BIOS settings for DRAM != OS2    os2 sees 64MB ram
> >>
> >> Something is wrong in the BIOS!
> >>
> >
> >Exactly - I've been posting on this subject for about a week and
> >a half - so far, the *ONLY* Athlon board that seems to have a
> >working INT 15H; AX=E801 BIOS is the ASUS K7M with their AMI BIOS;
> >OTOH, I *have* heard from Gigabyte that they are working on this,
> >and they now know everything that I do.
> >
> >IBM, actually, is also aware of this; however, they see the
> >revision of the ACPI spec as the solution - apparently, changing
> >the way in which OS/2 identifies memory to match that of
> >Win NT/9x constitutes a "design" change that they are not
> >prepared to do at this time - since IBM has made sure all the BIOS
> >manufacturers know how OS/2 detects memory, in their view it's up
> >to the BIOS makers to be compliant.
> >
> >With the revision of the ACPI spec, we should be able to complain
> >to the board maker to get it fixed.  I know for a fact that
> >there are people at Award/Phoenix that are aware of this issue, but
> >they aren't going to issue BIOS revisions unless the board maker
> >asks (pays?) for an update/revision.
> >
> >Last I looked, the Gigabyte BIOS rev was still at F1, which does not
> >fix the problem.  So, keep after them.......
> >
>
I hope it will work with warp server for ebussiness english version

Ciao

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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 13:23:00
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 19:47:02
Subj: Re: Lotus Organizer?

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on
11/13/99
   at 02:20 PM, "Karl M. Beem" <[e-mail]> said:

>Is Organizer available for OS/2?  It wasn't listed on ShopIBM.

>Karl

It should come with Lotus Smartsuite. It did with the beta version.

Bob.
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From: [e-mail]                               13-Nov-99 22:52:00
  To: All                                               13-Nov-99 19:47:02
Subj: Re: To Raphael Tennenbaum

From: [e-mail]

In <80kbot$t4d$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>In article <T=wsOHDc=[e-mail]>,
>  Remove silverware to reply wrote:
>
>> You got a point. I have canceled the article in question.
>
>You'll also want to ask Deja.com to purge it from their data base,
>since they do not accept cancel requests. (Not even if you posted it
>from Deja!)

LOL. And while we are at it why don't we do a little book burning
and witch hunting as well.
Rosemarie
>
>--
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>[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |
>
>
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From: [e-mail]                             13-Nov-99 19:39:17
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 14:46:24
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 08:21:59 GMT, Stan Goodman wrote:

>> Somebody's running an abusive monopoly?  Who?

Abusive monopoly? Sounds like some kind of kinky board game to me.


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From: [e-mail]                             13-Nov-99 19:45:28
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 14:46:24
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: "Doug Darrow" <[e-mail]>

On 12 Nov 1999 14:32:19 GMT, Lars P Ormberg wrote:

>To say Microsoft "abused its position" is to say that, my God, Microsoft
>competed in the market (and didn't fail at it).

We've no problem with M$ competing OR succeeding in an open market.
It's when they have established themselves as that overwhelming success
with one product, then say you will ALSO sell this OTHER product or you
cannot buy and sell the first product that they step over the line to
abuse. Of course there are other issues involved then the alleged
"tying" abuse.


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From: [e-mail]                                14-Nov-99 16:29:18
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 14:46:25
Subj: Re: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:23:38 -0800, [e-mail] wrote:

>In <[e-mail]>, on 11/12/99
>   at 03:12 PM, "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]> said:
>
>An IBMer stated that a SingleQ$ is associated with a video problem.
>Changing resolutions, drivers, cards or something. RJF
>
Thanks, but I was able to work around it by installing type=pm rather than
type=wps.  Everything seems to be working at the moment, so I'll leave well
alone.

Regards, Alex


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From: [e-mail]                          15-Nov-99 17:14:06
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 14:46:25
Subj: Re: SoftwareBuyLine.com is bad, bad, bad...

From: [e-mail] (RCW)

>Assuming you're an adult, why should they pay for your stupidity?
>
>-bc-

 As part of their promotional wording, this company agrees to take
back returns less a restocking fee.

My message is a complaint against this company because they refuse to
answer my Email messages or my phone calls, not because they're
refusing to take back the product.

So tell me, -bc-, since it seems that you too have made an error, are
you an adult and do you now feel stupid?

RCW

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From: [e-mail]                     15-Nov-99 17:38:20
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 14:46:25
Subj: >64MB Memory: A fix from our favorite OS/2 programmer...

From: [e-mail]


Daniela Engert has once again come through in spades for the OS/2 user...

Behold!
ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/patchldr.zip
(to be moved to:
ftp://hobbbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/system/patches/patchldr.zip)

:)

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From: [e-mail]                             15-Nov-99 11:01:02
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 14:46:25
Subj: Re: Thinkpad Trackpoint driver

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> The OS2 TrackPoint driver for ThinkPads (600 in my case) does not give
> much accelleration. It takes too much force to move it around and no
> settings seems to alter it.  I've tried it with FP 11 and FP 12 and there
> is no difference.
>
> I don't have a way to measure it, but I don't think it is doing much of
> anything. It is a Windoze driver that has been ported.

I have the OS/2 trackpoint driver with a Thinkpad 760 and it works very
well.  You might try visiting the IBM Thinkpad site and see if there are
updates or something for the 600.


>
> Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there an undocumented switch to control
> this?
>
> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                                     15-Nov-99 18:06:24
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 14:46:25
Subj: Re: Lotus Organizer?

From: [e-mail] (Don Morse)

In message <[e-mail]> -
"Karl M. Beem" <[e-mail]> writes:
:>
:>Is Organizer available for OS/2?  It wasn't listed on ShopIBM.
:>
:>Karl
:>
:>
:>

last version available I believe is the version in the SmartSuite for OS/2.
it is roughly equivalent to Organizer 4.  I've tried the demo version of
Organizer 6 and it's got some really great features.  I would love to see that
available for OS/2 but I think IBM has their collective heads too far up
Microsofts collective asses to get that accomplished.



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From: [e-mail]                               15-Nov-99 22:55:02
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:21
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Memory Leak & System Freeze

From: [e-mail]

Alan,
The easiest thing to try is to go into the preferences and set all your CACHE
to 0.
If this fixes the problem, then get SCACHE. It is easy to install and a lot
quicker.
Brian


n <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Alan Boritz) writes:
>This 9/99 "refresh," is really getting to be offensive.  NS 4.61 is causing
>the swap file to grow from a 142 meg initial size.  Running it about a dozen
>times will corrupt the system enough to crash it.  Running the message editor
>in any session will more than likely crash the system, but unlike the last
>release, the desktop will not unfreeze without a three-finger salute. Here's
>the popuplog for the last crash:
>
>11-14-1999  13:34:41  SYS3170  PID 01b5  TID 0001  Slot 009f
>F:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>00000000
>00000000
>EAX=6d101294  EBX=157a0d1c  ECX=1649ce56  EDX=00000080
>ESI=17c170cc  EDI=13e8d93c
>DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>CS:EIP=005b:1bd3b4ba  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:007c6484  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>EBP=007c64b4  FLG=00012206
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>
>11-14-1999  13:34:41  SYS3171  PID 01b5  TID 0001  Slot 009f
>F:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>00000000
>00000000
>EAX=6d101298  EBX=1648ce3c  ECX=1649ce57  EDX=00000080
>ESI=00000000  EDI=13e8d93c
>DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>CS:EIP=005a:1bd3b4ba  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>SS:ESP=004a:007fef38  SSACC=d0d3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>EBP=007fef68  FLG=00012202
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>
>11-14-1999  13:34:41  SYS3170  PID 01b5  TID 0001  Slot 009f
>F:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
>00000053
>6d10129c
>P1=1649ce58  P2=00000080  P3=007c6488  P4=1bd3b4ba
>EAX=6d10129c  EBX=16489aa4  ECX=1649ce58  EDX=00000080
>ESI=00000004  EDI=13e8d93c
>DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>CS:EIP=005b:1bd3b4ba  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:007c6458  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>EBP=007c6488  FLG=00012202

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From: [e-mail]                                     15-Nov-99 18:20:15
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:22
Subj: Re: RICO

From: [e-mail] (Don Morse)

In message <fDKV3.557$[e-mail]> - [e-mail]
(Steve Myers) writes:
:>
:>Based on the rather substantial direct losses IBM suffered at the hands of
:>M$, I wonder if they shouldn't file a RICO lawsuit against them, based on
:>the findings of fact in the DOJ case.  The whole things sounds like what
:>RICO was intended to stop.
:>
:>OTOH, M$ would almost certainly retaliate, which would probably make IBM
:>very careful.
:>

The RICO act is what Micro$oft should have been prosecuted under in the first
place.  Walking into an Independent Software programmers place of business.
Where he writes code and compiles for multiple platforms, and telling him that
in order to continue to receive the Microsoft Development package and
assistance he must drop alternate platform development is nothing short of a
Protection Racket.  Fully prosecutable under RICO, but Bozo the Clinton and
his Judicial Jokers on Review would never permit such a thing....  only the
"appearance" (read condemnation, but no penalty)....



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From: [e-mail]                           15-Nov-99 11:21:00
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:22
Subj: Internet Junkbusters

From: Ken Anderson <[e-mail]>

Has anybody had any problems getting this to work under OS/2?  I
installed EMX and rebooted. Then I ran the install.cmd for junkbusters
and it created the desktop icon but when I click it I get the properties
menu only. Any ideas?

TIA

Ken

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From: [e-mail]                         15-Nov-99 19:47:20
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:22
Subj: Re: Internet Junkbusters

From: "Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:21:00 -0500, Ken Anderson wrote:

>Has anybody had any problems getting this to work under OS/2?  I
>installed EMX and rebooted. Then I ran the install.cmd for junkbusters
>and it created the desktop icon but when I click it I get the properties
>menu only. Any ideas?
>
Apart from saying it's working just fine here...

Have you looked at where it was installed and where the properties menu
thinks it is installed?

All your DLLs in suitable places and you haven't got an old one earlier
in the path than a newer version?


Dave
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From: [e-mail]                                15-Nov-99 11:09:16
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:22
Subj: MKISOFS?

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

I need a little tip for using mkisofs from cdrecord...

If on my harddrive I have a dir tree like d:\files\netscape\stuff. How can I
get mkisofs to create an image on rom that mirrors that tree?

Currently, pointing mkisofs to d:/files/netscape/stuff yields a rom that has
all of the files in d:\files at root level, with a tree structure of
/netscape/stuff. All the files are there, but the top most dir level (FILES)
is
missing...

Which leads me to, "what am I missing"? :')

I execute mkisofs with:
mkisofs.exe -a -d -J -l -L -N -o cd.raw /=d:/files/netscape/stuff



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From: [e-mail]                        15-Nov-99 14:23:16
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:22
Subj: SmartSuite

From: [e-mail]

Actually, when I highlight the box, the whole thing turns black so I
can no longer see what I have written.  The secret, as pointed out in
the previous answer to my question, was to type one letter in the box,
then all the editing functions became useable.  Until I typed that one
letter, the box remained black and none of the editing buttons would
respond to a mouse click.



Wayne Brown

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From: [e-mail]                           15-Nov-99 16:48:22
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:23
Subj: Re: How much RAM does OS/2 Warp really want?

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

Greg Thomas wrote:
>
> Stewart Honsberger wrote:>swaps a lot of data. Obviously I don't have enough
> RAM and I've told it
>

[***SNIP!!!***]

> > >eg Windows 95 works ok with 16MB but really takes off with 20MB and more
> > >doesn't help very much unless you are running rather memory intensive
> > >applications (MS stuff for example ;).
> >
> > The two are apples and oranges. OS/2 is a 32-bit operating system built
> > from the ground up, while Win'95 is a DOS shell.
> >
>
> Yes, I know Windows is shit. I'm an Amiga user. Amiga DOS and Workbench is
even
> more efficient than OS2 - it is 32 from the ground up and does not run on 16
> bit computers. Parts of WB went into OS2 - HPFS for example is a reworked
FFS
> (The Amiga's Fast File System) which has a larger file path than the 108
Amiga
> limit. If you put an HPFS disk into an Amiga it will mistaken it for a
native
> disk, though not read it properly.
>
> >
> > Also - have you checked Win's default swapfile size? I've seen systems
with
> > 32 MeBs of RAM have a 75+ MeB swapfile.
>
> How do you set the default size?
>
> Greg :)

Running 64 MB here (well, 80 MB, but my bios doesn't let OS/2 know of
the last 16 MB, although NT and Linux can use it fine), and a 64 MB
swapfile on a different partition (works wondrously when the swapfile is
on a different disk from any applications and the the o/s), and OS/2
does the periodic stall to write to disk - the INI files. I don't have
much swapping (too much networking code can sit in the swapfile
untouched) even with Netscape and a couple of Java apps, File Browser,
PMView, Bash and EPM.

I did want to raise a point, though. OS/2 was not written 32-bit from
the ground up. It was written protected mode - primarily, if not all,
16-bit, from the ground up, and was converted to 32-bit over the years.
OS/2 2.0 was the first release to be built around 32-bit, but even then,
significant areas were still 16-bit. Even now, if you haven't bought
TCP/IP 4.1, you are still using 16-bit tcp/ip structures (iirc). I'm not
aware of any other parts that haven't been converted outside DOS/Win-OS2
- which by definition must stay 16 bit.
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From: [e-mail]                           13-Nov-99 13:25:07
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:23
Subj: Re: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: "Ivan Adzhubei" <[e-mail]>

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/12/99
   at 03:12 PM, "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]> said:

Looks like a problem with video drivers. BootOS2 has only very generic
support for anything other than a plain VGA, and it can be easily
confused while attempting to build a bootable partition from the one
with proprietary set of video drivers installed.

While booting into your BootOS2 partition, push Alt-F1 and select
"revert to VGA" option on recovery choice menu, then re-install proper
drivers for your video card to your maintenance partition if you wish,
or just leave it in VGA mode.

Cheers,
Ivan

>I can get bootos2 9.26 to install to 2 floppies and can boot from them.
>But now I have a much more serious problem.  I deleted Windows 98 from
>drive C and installed bootos2 there, but when I try to boot from it
>(using Boot Manager) it stalls and give me a SingleQ$ exception.  I am
>certain that the problem is due to BootOS2 because I also installed
>BootOS2 on drive F, and got the same result.  I had a minimal
>installation of an earlier version of BootOS2 on F before, and had no
>problem booting from it.

>I installed type=wps with the installations with which I am having
>problems, so I suppose I should try to use the minimal installation to
>see if that works.  Or I could try leaving out the VDM and other
>options to see if that makes any difference.

>Very disappointing and frustrating.  Can anyone give me any other
>suggestions?

>Regards, Alex




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From: [e-mail]                           15-Nov-99 14:47:02
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:23
Subj: Re: Internet Junkbusters

From: Ken Anderson <[e-mail]>

Everything looks to be in the right place.

"Dave {Reply Address in.sig}" wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:21:00 -0500, Ken Anderson wrote:
>
> >Has anybody had any problems getting this to work under OS/2?  I
> >installed EMX and rebooted. Then I ran the install.cmd for junkbusters
> >and it created the desktop icon but when I click it I get the properties
> >menu only. Any ideas?
> >
> Apart from saying it's working just fine here...
>
> Have you looked at where it was installed and where the properties menu
> thinks it is installed?
>
> All your DLLs in suitable places and you haven't got an old one earlier
> in the path than a newer version?
>
> Dave
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From: [e-mail]                           15-Nov-99 18:01:24
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:23
Subj: Re: What software for chat

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

Dale Winters wrote:
>
> Howdy;
>     Is there os/2 software that will enable me to enter a chat channell
> on "mirc " Thanks,Dale

I'm running PMBitchX, which is freeware ported to OS/2 from the
Unix/Linux environment. Interestingly, the OS/2 version of BitchX is
more feature rich than the Unix/Linux release or the Windows edition,
with a menu bar (through an included script) and many pop=ups, plus
multitudinous scripts available from scripts.bitchx.org (do you get the
idea that I like the job done with it?).

You can get it from Hobbes or www.bitchx.org
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From: [e-mail]                           15-Nov-99 16:13:11
  To: All                                               15-Nov-99 20:08:23
Subj: Re: Who runs this country?

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

Erik Schild wrote:
>
> Jack Troughton wrote:
>
> > Stan... you're from Israel, so you probably don't really know what
> > "government" means in British Columbia, Canada.  To give you an idea;
> > the most recent scandal (but not the first, nor the nastiest)
> > involving a sitting premier is an instructive little spectacle known
> > in the press here as "Bingogate".  I invite you to imagine the sordid
> > details.
>
> That's old news.  We've had plenty of scandals since then.
> In fact some people are calling the capital of Victoria 'Trough-ton'.
>
> > To which I might add that BC is a very beautiful place, and everyone
> > I've met from out there have been very nice people.  I lived there for
> > a while, but I was very young, and don't really know the place.  My
> > sister lived there for seven years, and she likes the place.  However,
> > politics has a flavour all its own in BC.  The "father" of BC was a
> > premier popularly known as "Wacky" Bennet.  I don't know if he's the
> > first... maybe the guy from bc.politics could enlighten us?
>
> If he's the first what?  Hope your sister's doin' o.k.
>
> Readers please note that I'm responding to off-topic crossposting, not
> originating it!
>
> E.Schild
> [e-mail]

Don't forget Amour de Cosmos (sp?) - the first BC Premier (iirc) when BC
entered Confederation. W.A.C. (Wacky) Bennett and Vander Zalm were just
later examples.
--

============================================================
To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
portion of the Reply to: value.

Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
Voix:        [phone]   Cellulaire: [phone]
Telecopieur: [phone]   Email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                   16-Nov-99 00:54:11
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Joystick Device Driver Contest Update #2

From: [e-mail] (Jason Stefanovich)

We have received a new donation pledge of $10 from Zoltan Bokeny for
the MAMERun Joystick Device Driver Contest.

What is it?

Write your own joystick device driver for OS/2 and you could win a
Gravis Gamepad Pro + $30 and earn the respect and gratitude of OS/2
gamers around the world! With the many new games available and the
advance of game controllers there arises a need for a better
joystick device driver than IBM's advanced joystick device driver.
Support for new controller features, such as 8+ buttons, will greatly
enhance the OS/2 gaming experience for gamers as well as
developers.

For rules and other information check out:

  http://home1.gte.net/stefanj/contest.htm

I am looking for additional sponsors for this contest. If you would
like to contribute please go to:

  http://home1.gte.net/stefanj/sponsor.htm

Any questions can be sent to me at [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                    15-Nov-99 18:27:28
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: GA-7IX BIOS Beta & >64 Megs

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

Or download Dani's OS2LDRPatch from Hobbes ... it just appeared today
:-)

In article <[e-mail]>,
"Frank Field" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In response to my many posts, requests, etc, I would like to report
>that I received a test BIOS in my morning e-mail from Gigabyte
>that they claim will rectify the memory detection problem.  I have
>since ordered an ASUS K7M and have idled the
>GA-7IX, but those
>of you out there with the problem and not interested in patching
>OS2LDR should send an e-mail to Gigabyte support
>in *Taiwan*
>or Germany to ask for the F2 beta BIOS and flash utility.
>
>Frank Field
>[e-mail]
>O-
>
>

--
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*  President                                                 *
*  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
*  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
*  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
*  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
*  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
*  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
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*  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
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From: [e-mail]                               15-Nov-99 23:23:04
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: Fix tool for Warp 3?

From: [e-mail] (Frank)

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:34:33, [e-mail] (Bob Eager) wrote:

> I'm going to be applying FixPaks to Warp 3 systems...which I haven't
> done since the dark days of diskettes only!
>
> Is there a LATEST fix tool I should use? In other words, is 141 OK or
> is an earlier version better for Warp 3?

I Use QuickFix.
You can upgrade from harddisk and even better, if anything goas wrong,
you can backout of the fix.

Get it from : http://members.xoom.com/franklyware


greeeetings,

Frank

The box said:"Requires Windows 95/98, NT or better" .......... So I
too installed OS/2.


Reply per Email to [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                 14-Nov-99 11:47:07
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.5 steals focus

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Object Desktop gives me 4 virtual desktops.  If I have Netscape
>Communicator 4.5 open in one and try to do something in aother,
>each time I close a window in the other desktop, NC4.5 steals
>the focus and pops me back into its desktop.
>
>Is there some setting somewhere that can turn this off, or is
>this a bug?  It is really aggravating sometimes.
>--
>Dale Erwin
>Santa Fe, New Mexico
>

I am not hearing good things about OD's VDs, so I might
check if one of the other ones (Megadesk used to work very
well here) solves this.

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                          16-Nov-99 09:21:28
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

I forgot to mention that I'm using Injoy as my dialer.
OK. I got the strings that NT uses (reliably) and I'm
using them now. I've reduced the MRU from Injoy's
1500 and things are a tad better. I still have tons of
Invalid fcs (up to 208 right now and rising) I will
look at what NT is using.

Cheers and thanks to all (You know who you are)
who sent me mail with ideas.

Wayne


On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:06:29 GMT, Wayne Bickell wrote:

:>Hi,
:>
:>I've just got a USR v.everything modem but cannot establish a good
:>connection with Warp 4, in fact my best speed is with BeOS. I can't
:>get PMINews to get new articles or browse with Netscape. It was
:>OK this morning with my 33,600 bps modem! Can somebody help me
:>with a GOOD init string? Please also resond by meail as that is the
:>only thing I can do reliably in OS/2 now. As you can see I'm using
:>NT to post this and it's killing me!
:>
:>Cheers
:>
:>Wayne
:>
:>[e-mail]

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]@Vi...               16-Nov-99 00:55:02
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: Curios about OS/2

Message sender: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca

From: [e-mail]@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette)

Mon, 15 Nov 1999 06:34:15, "N. Kaba" <[e-mail]> a écrit:

> Could you please post the URL for this graphics software you mentioned,
> I tried Truespectra but they don't seem to have anything on their page
> about a PhotGraphics Pro software.

    http://www.truespectra.com/support.html

Salut,

    Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07)
    ICQ #13376913
    http://pages.infinit.net/exovede

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From: [e-mail]                             15-Nov-99 20:19:27
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Device Driver Fixpack

From: Bob Grimes <[e-mail]>

Where is the fixpack?  I looked on the NCSD page, and it disappeared!  I
have DD1, but I was wondering if they had updated the package?

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From: [e-mail]                               15-Nov-99 19:42:23
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: Thinkpad Trackpoint driver

From: [e-mail]

>> The OS2 TrackPoint driver for ThinkPads (600 in my case) does not give
>> much accelleration. It takes too much force to move it around and no
>> settings seems to alter it.  I've tried it with FP 11 and FP 12 and there
>> is no difference.
>
>I have the OS/2 trackpoint driver with a Thinkpad 760 and it works very
>well.  You might try visiting the IBM Thinkpad site and see if there are
>updates or something for the 600.


Its a different Trackpoint design and series for the later machines, like
the 770, 600, etc. The driver for my old 560 works fine too. The one for
the 600 is crap or there is something wrong with this machine.


>> Has anyone else noticed this?  Is there an undocumented switch to control
>> this?
_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                                  16-Nov-99 01:48:29
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: What software for chat

From: [e-mail] (David T. Anderson)

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:05:37, Dale Winters <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Howdy;
>     Is there os/2 software that will enable me to enter a chat channell
> on "mirc "

In addition to the other IRC programs mentioned, you might like to try
the IRC_Java app available from IBM Alphaworks [www.alphaworks.ibm.com
.. the one to look for is IRC1_40.zip ].

  This is freeware, and strikes a nice balance between simplicity of
use and plenty of neat features.  The best thing is that the code is
kept right up to date, so it meshes very nicely with the current Java
release...

David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta
http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/

Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp

**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

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From: [e-mail]                             15-Nov-99 17:48:24
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: Please Help. Warp 3 and fixpak 40

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


Bob Dehn wrote:
>
> I have a base OS/2 install with Warp 3.0 on a Novell token ring network
> running at 16 mbps (using Novell requester 2.12). I installed fixpak 40 to
> bring it up to Y2K compliance and now I can not get to the network. I have
> noticed that when OS/2 is loading, the card is running at 4 mbps. I have
> flashed the firmware on the card, upgraded the bios on my IBM PC350, tried
> the latest driver, and even forced the card to use 16 mbps (turned PNP off,
> set speed, turned auto sense off, etc). OS/2 is still forcing it to use 4
> mbps. If I backout the fixpak, the problem goes away! Has anyone seen this
> before? How would I contact IBM about this? ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY
> APPRECIATED!!!

My experience was that Fixpack 40 broke some applications.  I suggest
backing out FP40 and installing FP39.  Fixpacks are cumulative and all
fixpacks since Fixpack 32 have been Y2K compliant.

>
> Bob Dehn
> [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                  14-Nov-99 13:03:11
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: Lotus SmartSuite for OS/2 Warp

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> I need some help with Lotus SmartSuite.  I can't find any books here
> and the Lotus People didn't answer my question.  I need to figure out
> how to edit text in a 'Text Box' in Lotus 123.  Could someone please
> pass on the procedures for this??????
>
> Wayne Brown

Wayne,
* Double click (LMB by default) on the text block
is the definitively (default) simple  short answer....however...

<FAR MORE VERBOSE ANSWER/SPECULATION>
At first reading, this appears to be one of those embarrassing "cherry
faced after the event - Whoops how silly of me not to think of that
first!" type questions.<vbg>...
Conversely there may actually be more to this question than warrants
such a simple trivially obvious response - so Wayne may have to
elaborate further?:

Intuitively the above answer is how an "object's" (opening behaviour)
was originally designed to work in this OS environment by default but if
ones keyboard abilities and initiative have been regrettably de-tuned
through having to exclusively  suffer only M$ Windows platforms one can
be excused for not trying the obvious perhaps?<vbg> ....and
Someone specifically running Lotus97 on Win9X may no doubt feel
aggrieved enough to comment on that but in defence of the technical
neophytes it might have been a tad more "helpful" for a naive Windows(or
any) user if the Lotus programmer had additionally included EDIT within
the "drop down menu" (RMB)  of the "drawing object" as well<g>, although
that may well raise all sorts of questions about code
size,maintainability and portability(via Open32) between Lotus's cross
platform products.
As well as potentially initiating another pointless tangential debate on
whether it's more "intuitive" expecting a user to RMB than to "double
click", why then have LaunchPad and WarpCentre toolbars that only use a
single click methodology and the fact that there is no intractable rule
that compels any application programmer to use precisely the same
standards or implied conventions on popup dialogue menus or action bars
as the OS/desktop (CUA compliance guidelines not withstanding<g>)!

What's more difficult to excuse(even if one's a typical/former Windows
user<g>)is the more obvious omission alluded to by the statement:
"...can't find any books here"... and thus the implied failure to read
the online help!<g>
That is, to be scrupulously fair in case you're really a non-os2
user<vbg> , I re-checked, and sure enough if you look at the online HELP
the explicit "answer" is actually detailed in "Editing Data in a Text
Block" specifically.... nested a couple of levels down under
"Editing"....<g>
(Of course we all miss the obvious at times and you may have other very
valid reasons aside from MS induced complacency,temporary amnesia,
workload induced panic etc. to repudiate my unkind and tactless
remarks<vbg>)

That said I really don't want to unnecessarily add to your frustration
if this doesn't work nor add to your (richly deserved<vbg>)
embarrassment if it does... but in the (albeit unlikely) former case you
should at least supply/expand on:

1. What version/release/modification level of Lotus123 you're using
including Warp + FP version and any desktop enhancers you may be
using<g>.
2. Whether this fails on any simple Text Block you create or only on a
"large" drawing object,specific worksheet,specific font etc.
3. Mouse type and options(mappings,clickrates) selected under System
SETUP etc...
4. Confirm whether online HELP is actually functional and has been
reviewed.... and whether any cursory review of online Lotus knowledge
base has been attempted, starting with links on the obvious
http://www.lotus.com

Further details may be required if it transpires you have other (perhaps
apparently unrelated) problems like inability to use the ONLINE
help(apart from aforementioned user attributed problem that is<g>) as
any reputable first level help desk could potentially have given you:

a) the obvious answer after prompting you to check your mouse mappings
if necessary<g>.
b) some education on benefits of using online help and tutorials
first(and/or checked it's functionality)....
...and all hopefully far more politely and tactfully presented than
mine<g>....

All assuming that is you were using a paid support service and not a
"free" remote/email complimentary service?
As to your statement(or implication) that "the Lotus People
didn't(wouldn't or couldn't?) answer my question.", it is ambiguous at
best and thus open to various interpretations and as I obviously also
can't comment authoritatively on why Lotus didn't apparently "answer", I
can only speculate:

If it was non-fee service then rightly or wrongly(I'm not defending
Lotus's alleged rudeness in not apparently answering or even
acknowledging if that was indeed the case) practically speaking the
question(if literally as stated in this post) infers the user didn't
even bother reading the online help so they'll de-prioritise it or worse
ignore it until you re-qualify the question further(as per 1-4 above)to
at least demonstrate you have made some elementary attempts yourself.

>From personal experience over many years on both customer and company
sides of various technical support help desks such obvious or trivial
questions in this context are invariably dispositioned accordingly,
perhaps only answered on "best can do" basis relative to outstanding
call backlog or sometimes not even reflected negatively in the help desk
statistics at all!  YMMV depending on your viewpoint as to what
constitutes a "pre-requisite" educational baseline for user and exact
terms of reference and service level commitments for the help desk<g>.
We would all undoubtedly expect in an ideal world to have any
technically relevant question promptly acknowledged and preferably
answered at same time no matter how "trivial" but, regrettably, often
this utopian expectation is not always realistically achievable given
the number of users,cost of product,support service and increasing
availability of inbuilt passive and "smart enabled" documentation.

To be brutal, providing the HELP desks meet their SLA's commensurate
with service the customer is paying for (or not directly paying for as
the case may be<g>) then this lack of response(or prolonged delay) is
often inevitable in those circumstances where the user could reasonably
be expected to already have easy access to(but failed to avail
themselves of) the answer in the OS or product supplied (soft/hardcopy)
documentation....   :-(
Of course this is all largely supposition on my part pending further
elaboration (if at all necessary<g>) on further details of your
"problem" and "any realtime or offline conversation" you actually had
with Lotus.....

If you are actually paying for Lotus support(or perhaps even via limited
warranty on a newly purchased product),have a "trouble ticket" or call
PMR number to prove receipt of your original question and it transpires
their inability to answer was due to "non-OS/2" aware support
(incompetence is perhaps too strong a word but considering the
simplicity of the question perhaps not?<g>) on their technical support
desk(rather than insufficient details supplied by yourself) then you may
well have a tenuously legitimate case for complaint.
In your position in those particular circumstances only, I would
personally escalate the matter further on principle.... (even at the
risk of any further "egg on face" or not<g>).

Uncharitably stated perhaps, but if failure to avail oneself of the
pre-requisite OS and application tutorials and HELPS is a fair and valid
criticism in this specific case then one ought to consider redressing
this as expediently as possible before posting in future
to avoid more "lectures","rantings","diatribes" or unnecessary delays?
So depending on how both OS and relevant application was installed,
perhaps you actually need some advice on activating or selectively
installing additional "help,tutorials or smart assist features" etc?<g>

Agreed that these newsgroups are primarily to offer mutual assistance
and not to dissuade persons from posting by ridiculing or offending but
some elementary effort is surely expected prior to adopting the
(often much abused) principle of:
"...it's far easier to post a question on an interactive media at the
expense of someone else's time than to invest any amount of personal
effort to passively and diligently research any other authoritative
sources first...."!

Furthermore, just supplying a brief one line answer does not appear to
encourage or stimulate the original poster to thus develop their own
initiative,more comprehensively structure their diagnostic info
unambiguously and to learn techniques(including locations of reference
sources/FAQ's) to actually advance their own knowledge independently and
more importantly hopefully thus give them the opportunity to contribute
to the collective knowledge pool themselves at some later stage?
Perversely, the "nature of the beast" also dictates that if you ask what
first appears to be an obvious question without elaborating fully on
efforts you have already tried and thereby subsequently receive a
concise (but blatantly obvious) answer then some overly sensitive soul
will inevitably take umbrage and be mortally offended at having their
(unknown) technical acumen insulted via such simple responses!
(The predictably frequent retort along the lines of: "Pahhh! I've been
using OS/2 for last 13 years so I knew that ***obvious*** solution /
technique already - Didn't you think I hadn't already tried it!"
repeatedly comes to mind <g>)

Catch22: Thus in these circumstances one either risks the indignant
wrath of the original poster or expends considerable time in trying to
interpret the users perceived skill level and attempting to futilely
determine if there is a more subtle problem underlying the more
glaringly obvious one inferred due to the ambiguous nature (or
incomplete detail) of original question posed.

However, also remembering the propensity some people apparently have
debating (or arguing semantics of) the "intuitiveness" of other
fundamentally simple concepts like command line "SYNTAX"<vbg>,no doubt
I'll now be taken severely to task for having the audacity and arrogance
to imply that "double clicking" and using application HELP is also
inherently intuitive!  <sigh>  :-(
--
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a MS operated computer!"

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From: [e-mail]                    16-Nov-99 02:23:04
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: Newbie

From: [e-mail] (Peter Moylan)

Darren <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I want to run a 'server' and OS2 Warp sounds like a brilliant OS to use :-)
>I have never used or seen this OS before.
>Could someone please point me to some sites with basic support, information
>about the OS and some Screenshots on it.

Among my web pages (see signature) there's one called "OS/2 basic concepts"
that should be useful to you.

--
Peter Moylan                                         [e-mail]
See http://eepjm.newcastle.edu.au for OS/2 information and software

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From: [e-mail]                              16-Nov-99 02:48:11
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Wayne Bickell wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just got a USR v.everything modem but cannot establish a good
> connection with Warp 4, in fact my best speed is with BeOS. I can't
> get PMINews to get new articles or browse with Netscape. It was
> OK this morning with my 33,600 bps modem! Can somebody help me
> with a GOOD init string? Please also resond by meail as that is the
> only thing I can do reliably in OS/2 now. As you can see I'm using
> NT to post this and it's killing me!
>
    I have found recently that I have more trouble connecting to my ISP
as well. I have been using these two strings as a basis:
1: ATZ
2: AT&FI3M0S0=0

The important part of the 2nd string is AT&F1. That pre-selects the
default hardware handshake control so beloved by modems. (The I# shows
modem info; M0 turns the speaker off; s0=0 makes sure the modem won't
try to pick up the phone if it rings.)

    Another area to explore, since you have InJoy, is Change|Ok|PPP
Options. This is where I had the greatest success at (almost)
eliminating FCS errors. I turned off MS-CHAP, Addr & Cntl field
compression, Protocol Compression, and ECHO-REQ resets  idle timeout.
    One one modem VJ compression had to be on; on another it had to be
off. Go figure.


--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                              16-Nov-99 02:56:24
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:16
Subj: Re: A couple of install programs not working - OS/2 v. 4.0 + FP 11

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


"John H. Lindsay" wrote:
>
> Hello All (again):
>
> I've been ramping up to do a big project that I've had in
> mind for years, and installing a number of software systems.
> Some of the _installers_ seem not to be working any more.
>
> In particular, the feature installer 1.23 (used to install
> VA C++ v. 3.65 and 4.0) won't install; the installer's
> installation routine simply gives up and quits without an
> error message shortly after the installation routine starts.
>
    The only thing I found that caused this was when I was using
hpfs386. Then hpfs386 ate my system directory. Later, after re-storing
and using hpfs, Feature Install worked ok.


--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                         16-Nov-99 03:42:18
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:17
Subj: OS/2 <-> SAMBA problem solved

From: [e-mail] (Mike)

This is not actually a problem with OS/2, but it is a problem with OS/2
machines
connecting to Samba servers.

After upgrading to the latest Samba version (2.0.6) on my Linux machine to see
if they fixed the FindFirst/FindNext bug with a connecting OS/2 machine, I
found that it was still present.  So, I decided to look through the code to
see
if I could find where the problem is, and I did in a relatively short amount
of
time.  First, let me describe the problem.  When doing a DIR /S X* on a Samba
mounted drive, it returns immediately with "File not found" without even
searching sub-directories.  Whe logging the drive with a program like ZTree
Bold, it would fail with multiple "Critical Error [2]" dialog boxes.

I tracked this down to the following section of code in trans2.c:

  /*
   * If there are no matching entries we must return ERRDOS/ERRbadfile -
   * from observation of NT.
   */

  if(numentries == 0)
  {
    dptr_close(&dptr_num);
    return(ERROR(ERRDOS,ERRbadfile));
  }



Simply changing the return value from ERRbadfile to the correct response
(ERRnofiles) solves this problem.

I don't know how wide-spread the problem was (it didn't seem to affect samba
shares mounted through TVFS).

If you have any questions, email me.

- Mike

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From: [e-mail]                                15-Nov-99 22:32:23
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:17
Subj: Re: BootOS2 v9.26 causes SingleQ$ exception

From: "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]>

On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 13:25:15 +0300, Ivan Adzhubei wrote:

>In <[e-mail]>, on 11/12/99
>   at 03:12 PM, "Alex Bell" <[e-mail]> said:
>
>Looks like a problem with video drivers. BootOS2 has only very generic
>support for anything other than a plain VGA, and it can be easily
>confused while attempting to build a bootable partition from the one
>with proprietary set of video drivers installed.
Thanks, Ivan.  I solved the problem by reinstalling BootOS2 with the VGA
switch - as the documentation advised.

Regards, Alex


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From: [e-mail]                            15-Nov-99 21:36:09
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:17
Subj: Re: Internet Junkbusters

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

Which version?  My 1.16 build seems to keep on working, but I have yet
to get 1.17 going (I think 1.16 = 2.0.1 and 1.17 = 2.0.2 for OS/2).

Ken Anderson wrote:
>
> Has anybody had any problems getting this to work under OS/2?  I
> installed EMX and rebooted. Then I ran the install.cmd for junkbusters
> and it created the desktop icon but when I click it I get the properties
> menu only. Any ideas?
>
> TIA
>
> Ken

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                    16-Nov-99 04:54:25
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:17
Subj: IDE Hard Drive upgrade. Please help.

From: [e-mail]

Does anyone Have any experience with the most recent high capacity IDE
hard drives under OS/2?

I'd like to replace my current 6GB with something in the 20GB to 37GB
range.

I am inclined to buy the WD Caviar models, past experiences has been very
good. But all sugestions are welcome.

e-mail replies are greatly appreciated.

TIA
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From: [e-mail]....               16-Nov-99 05:24:04
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:17
Subj: Re: How much RAM does OS/2 Warp really want?

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 06:33:06, Greg Thomas <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> I am currently running Warp 4 on a PS/2 with 40MB or RAM. It runs fine
> for a while and then freezes for half a minute or so while it madly
> swaps a lot of data. Obviously I don't have enough RAM and I've told it
> that it can have 64MB of swap space.
>
> This computer will soon be expanded to 128MB which hopefully will
> alleviate the problem. But I'm still left with the question how much RAM
> does OS/2 actually WANT to have?
> eg Windows 95 works ok with 16MB but really takes off with 20MB and more
> doesn't help very much unless you are running rather memory intensive
> applications (MS stuff for example ;).

40MB RAM isn't what I would call sufficient for a Warp 4 system. It's
a little on the "tight" side. I'd suggest at least 64MB.

I have 128MB RAM on a Warp 4 system here and I rarely run out of
memory unless I've got the machine heavily loaded. With PMMail/2,
Netscape 4.61, ProNews/2, Seti@Home, Injoy,  PM123, MemSize 4.0, a 2MB
bitmap for my background (that also counts towards memory usage, you
know), and the Netware OS/2 client running I just start running low on
RAM (about 5MB free). I even have Java 1.1.8 and VoiceType installed
in the system and you know that certain components of those get loaded
at startup. Even then, I've still not touched more than 1MB of the
swap file.

Now, having said all that, I do have a Warp 3 Connect system
downstairs that is running on 40MB RAM with a P75 and it's quite happy
with that. After bootup, I have 15MB free on that system with MemSize
4.0 and the Netware client running in the background.

As always YMMV.



"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                                    16-Nov-99 08:12:12
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 05:11:17
Subj: Re: Fix tool for Warp 3?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:23:09, [e-mail] (Frank) wrote:

> I Use QuickFix.
> You can upgrade from harddisk and even better, if anything goas wrong,
> you can backout of the fix.

Thanks, but that wasn't my question....I wanted to know about versions
of the IBM tool which is even needed by QuickFix.

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                           16-Nov-99 20:48:16
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 10:39:06
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/16/99
   at 02:48 AM, James Moe <[e-mail]> said:



>Wayne Bickell wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've just got a USR v.everything modem but cannot establish a good
>> connection with Warp 4, in fact my best speed is with BeOS. I can't
>> get PMINews to get new articles or browse with Netscape. It was
>> OK this morning with my 33,600 bps modem! Can somebody help me
>> with a GOOD init string? Please also resond by meail as that is the
>> only thing I can do reliably in OS/2 now. As you can see I'm using
>> NT to post this and it's killing me!
>>
>    I have found recently that I have more trouble connecting to my ISP
>as well. I have been using these two strings as a basis:
>1: ATZ
>2: AT&FI3M0S0=0

>The important part of the 2nd string is AT&F1. That pre-selects the
>default hardware handshake control so beloved by modems. (The I# shows
>modem info; M0 turns the speaker off; s0=0 makes sure the modem won't try
>to pick up the phone if it rings.)

>    Another area to explore, since you have InJoy, is Change|Ok|PPP
>Options. This is where I had the greatest success at (almost) eliminating
>FCS errors. I turned off MS-CHAP, Addr & Cntl field compression, Protocol
>Compression, and ECHO-REQ resets  idle timeout.
>    One one modem VJ compression had to be on; on another it had to be
>off. Go figure.

I don't know if your phone lines are the same as ours here (Aus) but I
have a USR V Everything (X2) and Injoy and my strings are a bit different-
 AT&F

 AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2

I don't get any errors, (so far anyhow) and I have been running this for
about a year now. Maybe it will work on yours too.

Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                              16-Nov-99 07:23:22
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 10:39:07
Subj: Re: IDE Hard Drive upgrade. Please help.

From: Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]>

I have a WD 20 Gb sitting in a box right now - no luck getting it to
work under Warp 4 or WSeB.  To be fair, however, haven't had much time
for it lately.  I heard that either the danis506.add or the newest
(possibly not yet released) IBM1S506.add driver is required.


On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:54:50 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>
>Does anyone Have any experience with the most recent high capacity IDE
>hard drives under OS/2?
>
>I'd like to replace my current 6GB with something in the 20GB to 37GB
>range.
>
>I am inclined to buy the WD Caviar models, past experiences has been very
>good. But all sugestions are welcome.
>
>e-mail replies are greatly appreciated.
>
>TIA
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From: [e-mail]                 16-Nov-99 13:13:26
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 10:39:07
Subj: Re: Internet Junkbusters

From: [e-mail]


Ken Anderson wrote:

> Has anybody had any problems getting this to work under OS/2?  I
> installed EMX and rebooted. Then I ran the install.cmd for junkbusters
> and it created the desktop icon but when I click it I get the properties
> menu only. Any ideas?

Yes Sir ! I had the same symptom with SetiAtHome, which needs on EMX.
If this program cannot 'find' EMX, it cannot run, and in that case OS/2
throws the properties in your face (not the most enjoyable behaviour).
Try running that install.cmd from a command line, so you can see the
error-message.
If that message is EMX related:
1) check the x:\emx\doc directory to see if you have EMX version D, fix 2
2) very, very carefully check your path and libpath settings in the
config.sys
[last time, I forget the ':' in both entries, e.g. c\emx\bin i.s.o.
c:\emx\bin. Took me two days to spot it !]
3) RTFM (read the fine manual) again, this time skip 'installation for
people in a hurry', and read the whole manual, you never now what gremlins
you might find.

Wim Wauters

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From: [e-mail]                             16-Nov-99 08:29:29
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:23
Subj: Re: ISDNpm and NAT - config

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 09:46:34, Greg Thomas <[e-mail]> wrote:

> This is just a repost for those that didn't see it the first time ;)
>
> Noone replied - help.
>
> Greg Thomas wrote:
>
> Thanks to help from several people I think I am on the right track to
> getting NAT working on my LAN, but am not there yet. I have now removed
> all routing from my gateway machine and only have IP Forwarding on. But
> I still can't access the outside world from the LAN except for PING.
>
> Could someone with a working setup please send me or post your ISDN
> config files?

I have already posted my config files which do work, did you not see them?

Have you followed Lorne Sunley's advice?

You say PING works, so what doesn't. Does ping work with names or only with
IP addresses?

Have you setup your ISP's DNS for the other machines on your LAN?

--
Dave

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     16-Nov-99 17:24:07
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:23
Subj: Re: Device Driver Fixpack

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:19:54, Bob Grimes <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Where is the fixpack?  I looked on the NCSD page, and it disappeared!  I
> have DD1, but I was wondering if they had updated the package?
>

Try:
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     16-Nov-99 17:24:08
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:23
Subj: Re: Fix tool for Warp 3?

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:34:33, [e-mail] (Bob Eager) wrote:

> I'm going to be applying FixPaks to Warp 3 systems...which I haven't
> done since the dark days of diskettes only!
>
> Is there a LATEST fix tool I should use? In other words, is 141 OK or
> is an earlier version better for Warp 3?
>
> Thanks...
> --
> Bob Eager
> rde at tavi.co.uk
> PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
> 8580*6,
> 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

141 fixes problems with earlier versions. It also does something so
you cannot use earlier versions, after you use 141 (for ANYTHING that
uses the fix tool). To answer your question directly. Use 141.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
******************************

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From: [e-mail]                          16-Nov-99 16:25:27
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:23
Subj: Re: >64MB With MSI Athlon Board

From: [e-mail] (Andrew Stephenson)

In article <V2IxONgrKXpj3=[e-mail]>
       Remove "Martin Nisshagen" writes:

> [...re: Daniela Engert's OS2LDR patch]
> Just an idea; why not try to get her to send it to IBM so that
> they maybe can include it in the next release of FP (so all can
> benefit from it directly)?

If only that kind of common sense would actually work in the IBM
world.  They seem averse to employing even good third party code.
Ray Gwinn's (sp?) SIO s/ware could have helped Warp, way back.  I
am sure other examples exist.  Is it because of rights issues, or
Not Invented Here, or what?
--
Andrew Stephenson

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From: [e-mail]                           16-Nov-99 13:31:07
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: IDE Hard Drive upgrade. Please help.

From: "Mark L. Kahnt" <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Does anyone Have any experience with the most recent high capacity IDE
> hard drives under OS/2?
>
> I'd like to replace my current 6GB with something in the 20GB to 37GB
> range.
>
> I am inclined to buy the WD Caviar models, past experiences has been very
> good. But all sugestions are welcome.
>
> e-mail replies are greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
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>
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Another wander down memory lanes - I remember when 16 of us made use of
a machine with 100 MB total disk space and 2 MB RAM to develop and
compile half a dozen different interpreters and the equivalent compiler
versions (where applicable - there can't really be an APL compiler) -
1983 at Watcom (back then it was WatCom). I remember running PCs with
128 KB and floppies...

I recently worked with a large life insurance company that lives on its
database, and the data for the entire mainframe, plus application code,
and source for those applications, lived on 22 GB (but mainframes don't
need anywhere near as much code to implement GUIs). Not that I'd try to
run the same setup off a PC, mind you ;) - it probably couldn't handle
500 simultaneous active users.

It all goes back to the difference in uses - I make use of background
wallpaper in Jpeg format (1024x768 Truecolour) that is still larger than
any of the executables we were producing at Watcom. I did a quick
"Hello, World!" program in a few different compilers recently, using
only standard linkages and runtime libraries, and the resulting code was
larger than many of the interpreter executables we were writing at
Watcom (except for gcc under Linux, which knew to use the libraries). In
my day, these large executables were known as sloppy coding and memory
planning.
--

============================================================
To respond via e-mail - remove the "go-away-spammers"
portion of the Reply to: value.

Mark L. Kahnt, C.P. Box 1263, Kingston, Ontario   K7L 4Y8
Voix:        [phone]   Cellulaire: [phone]
Telecopieur: [phone]   Email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                            16-Nov-99 18:18:12
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: Notes Mail 4.1

From: [e-mail]

Just an interrupt....

In <[e-mail]>, on 10/31/1999
   at 07:35 PM, John Twelker <[e-mail]> said:

>Before you can use Lotus Notes for your e-mail client,
>   you have some work to do. (If for some reason you're
>   RE-installing Lotus Notes Mail client, save files
>   "names. nsf" and "popmail.nsf" to a safe place if you
>   have data in them you want to save ... then after
>   re-installing, copy them back to [Drive:]\Notes\Data
>   overwriting the new empty files).

>   1) Install Lotus Notes from Applications Sampler
>   CD-ROM from OS/2 Window. Change directory to g:
>   then os2\install and type "instpm".

Since I have a new machine I jumped onto this train....

I did this (install the workstation version) and tried if it worked so
far (should at least do something...). When I double-click the program
(or start NOTES.EXE from command line), it runs for less then a second
and then it's finished. Without leaving any trace.

Does anyone know why? Or where to look?
The install seemed to run fine.

Running a ThinkPad 390E on a LAN through TCP/IP. Notes server should
be somewhere on the TCP/IP...., name and IP-address available.


Frits

--
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
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From: [e-mail]                               16-Nov-99 14:04:04
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: cdrecord 1.8a31 and yamaha 4416

From: "dinkmeister" <[e-mail]>

did you try it without blank=all?

- dink


On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:54:01 +0200 (CET), Arjen Meijer wrote:

>I try to burn a image of 240 MB to a cdrw. However, I get a error:
>cdrecord: I/O error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
>CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
>What goes wrong?
>
>Command:
>cdrecord dev=0,3,0 speed=4 -v blank=all d:\cdimage\bestand.raw
>
>
>Cdrecord output:
>Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds.
>Blanking entire disk
>Blanking time: 1201.250s
>Starting new track at sector: 0
>Track 01:   0 of 234 MB written.cdrecord: I/O error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd:
>retryable error
>CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00
>status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS)
>cmd finished after 0.030s timeout 40s
>
>write track data: error after 0 bytes
>Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>Writing  time:    5.200s
>Fixating...
>cdrecord: I/O error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
>CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
>Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 2C 04 00 00 00 00
>Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
>Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x04 (current program area is empty) Fru 0x0
>Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
>cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 480s
>
>
>



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From: [e-mail]                               16-Nov-99 14:30:15
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: Palm Pilot

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

rj friedman wrote:
> And there was a third question which was: "How do I go about
> export an address book from Organizer to the Palm Pilot?"
>
> Is there a way to do this (or from some other address book)
> yet? I know you developed a method for it to be done - but
> has anyone picked up the ball on this that you know of?

    Not yet AFAIK.  The address book wrapper class is done (although not
sufficiently tested).  Once I get v1.1 out the door I might sit down and
write a CSV (Comma Seperated Value) import/export jConduit for the
Address Book in order to provide a base-level compatibility with most
PIMs, but to do it right someone neds to write a jConduit to do this
work.

    I personally am already too busy trying to get v1.1 out the door to
work on anything like this at the same time - so if anyone out there who
knows some Java who would like to step up to the plate and take on the
job, I'd love to hear from you :)

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                      16-Nov-99 21:46:09
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: OS/2 <-> SAMBA problem solved

From: Stefan Hoenes <[e-mail]>


Mike schrieb:
>
> This is not actually a problem with OS/2, but it is a problem with OS/2
machines
> connecting to Samba servers.
>
> After upgrading to the latest Samba version (2.0.6) on my Linux machine to
see
> if they fixed the FindFirst/FindNext bug with a connecting OS/2 machine, I
> found that it was still present.  So, I decided to look through the code to
see
> if I could find where the problem is, and I did in a relatively short amount
of
> time.  First, let me describe the problem.  When doing a DIR /S X* on a
Samba
> mounted drive, it returns immediately with "File not found" without even
> searching sub-directories.  Whe logging the drive with a program like ZTree
> Bold, it would fail with multiple "Critical Error [2]" dialog boxes.
>
> I tracked this down to the following section of code in trans2.c:
>
>   /*
>    * If there are no matching entries we must return ERRDOS/ERRbadfile -
>    * from observation of NT.
>    */
>
>   if(numentries == 0)
>   {
>     dptr_close(&dptr_num);
>     return(ERROR(ERRDOS,ERRbadfile));
>   }
>
> Simply changing the return value from ERRbadfile to the correct response
> (ERRnofiles) solves this problem.
>
> I don't know how wide-spread the problem was (it didn't seem to affect samba
> shares mounted through TVFS).

Hello Mike,

we have the same problem. We are testing at the moment samba servers
under Linux and AIX, and have experienced this problem.

If I do a 'DIR LA* /S' from a Win NT box all works fine, but if I do
this from OS/2 I got the error msg SYS0002  File not found.

We are direct connected to the samba server without TVFS. I think this
problem concerns all OS/2 clients and you should report this error to
teh samba team.

mfg Stefan

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From: [e-mail]                                  16-Nov-99 20:14:02
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: What software for chat

From: [e-mail] (David T. Anderson)

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:42:58, "Tom Pauncz" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Hello,
> Do you by any chance have the URL for IRC1_40.ZZIP?
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:48:58 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote:
>
>
> >In addition to the other IRC programs mentioned, you might like to try
> >the IRC_Java app available from IBM Alphaworks [www.alphaworks.ibm.com
> >... the one to look for is IRC1_40.zip ].

Hi Tom -- the URL is  http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/irc ,
although a little clicking around the Alphaworks site will get you
there just as well...

However it was just as easy to email the zipfile to you, so you should
have it before you read this....

David T. Anderson
Calgary, Alberta
http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/

Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp

**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

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From: [e-mail]                          16-Nov-99 09:21:29
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Annie K." <[e-mail]>

[Posted and mailed]

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:06:29 GMT, Wayne Bickell wrote:

:I've just got a USR v.everything modem but cannot establish a good
:connection with Warp 4, in fact my best speed is with BeOS. I can't
:get PMINews to get new articles or browse with Netscape. It was
:OK this morning with my 33,600 bps modem! Can somebody help me
:with a GOOD init string?

 I find AT&F1 to be sufficient.


--
Klaatu barada nikto


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From: [e-mail]                          16-Nov-99 09:20:05
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: Internet Junkbusters

From: "Annie K." <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 11:21:00 -0500, Ken Anderson wrote:

:Has anybody had any problems getting this to work under OS/2?  I
:installed EMX and rebooted. Then I ran the install.cmd for junkbusters
:and it created the desktop icon but when I click it I get the properties
:menu only. Any ideas?

 Are the EMX DLLs in your libpath?

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Klaatu barada nikto


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From: [e-mail]                             16-Nov-99 12:41:01
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: Device Driver Fixpack

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


Bob Grimes wrote:
>
> Where is the fixpack?  I looked on the NCSD page, and it disappeared!  I
> have DD1, but I was wondering if they had updated the package?



Fixpacks 11 and 12 for OS/2 v4 DO NOT include the device driver fixes.
You have to apply a separate device driver fixpack.  The device driver
fixpack no. 1 consists of two disks and is available here:

ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/xr_d001/

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From: [e-mail]                             16-Nov-99 12:41:25
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: Device Driver Fixpack

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


Doug Bissett wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:19:54, Bob Grimes <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
> > Where is the fixpack?  I looked on the NCSD page, and it disappeared!  I
> > have DD1, but I was wondering if they had updated the package?
> >
>
> Try:
> http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/index.htm


No, the device driver fixpack no. 1 is not available there.  It is
instead at:

ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/xr_d001/
>
> Hope this helps...
> ******************************
> From the PC of Doug Bissett
> doug.bissett at attglobal.net
> The " at " must be changed to "@"
> ******************************

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From: [e-mail]                              16-Nov-99 15:48:16
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: What software for chat

From: "Tom Pauncz" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:14:05 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:42:58, "Tom Pauncz" <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Do you by any chance have the URL for IRC1_40.ZZIP?
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:48:58 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote:
>>
>>
>> >In addition to the other IRC programs mentioned, you might like to try
>> >the IRC_Java app available from IBM Alphaworks [www.alphaworks.ibm.com
>> >... the one to look for is IRC1_40.zip ].
>
>Hi Tom -- the URL is  http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/irc ,
>although a little clicking around the Alphaworks site will get you
>there just as well...
>
>However it was just as easy to email the zipfile to you, so you should
>have it before you read this....
>
>David T. Anderson
>Calgary, Alberta
>http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/
>
>Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp
>
>**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...


Thanks very much, David ...


Cheers,
Tom Pauncz


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From: [e-mail]                             16-Nov-99 21:12:07
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Cache Save-Recall on Shutdown & Reboot?

From: [e-mail]

    I boot manage between Win95 and OS/2.  I normally leave OS/2 on all
the time and rarely go to Win95 in part because OS/2 takes so long to
boot up on this machine and in part, when it does, it doesn't work as
well for awhile.  Apparently OS/2 caches many useful things in the
course of use.  It would be nice to have a way to save these on
shutdown and then reload them after a reboot.  Such a scheme could
even be made a start menu part of the boot process so that, by the
time I got back to my machine after it finished booting, it would have
its usual lightning responsiveness.  Ideas?

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From: [e-mail]                  16-Nov-99 16:01:19
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 20:09:24
Subj: Re: Device Driver Fixpack

From: [e-mail]

lovely bit of confusion between the device driver pak on-line and the
device driver fixpak

http://ps.boulder.ibm.com/pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/softupd.html
- IBM NCSD Software Updates  (RSU and dsk  ddfp's and fixpak's)

http://service.software.ibm.com//pbin-usa-ps/getobj.pl?/pdocs-usa/tcpip_stack_r
su.html
-OS/2 TCP/IP Stack Updates via RSU

and that wonderful "will it run?"resource which has nothing o do with
fixpacks for the most part.

http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/
OS/2 Device Driver Pak On-Line - Device Categories

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accident as my spelling, please dont expect an appology
for my style or opinions.
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From: [e-mail]                          17-Nov-99 08:08:13
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:48:33 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:

:>I don't know if your phone lines are the same as ours here (Aus) but I
:>have a USR V Everything (X2) and Injoy and my strings are a bit different-
:> AT&F
:>
:> AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2
:>
:>I don't get any errors, (so far anyhow) and I have been running this for
:>about a year now. Maybe it will work on yours too.
:>
:>Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
:>([e-mail])

Thanks to all who answered,

Will try anything right now! I just swapped the serial cable
for a shorter one in the hope...

What gets me is NT and BeOS give me the same speed
(49333) but no fcs errors that I can tell. The same pages
load faster and downloads are faster. I used the settings
from both systems but still PMINews and Netscape are
dogs and the fcs errors soar. Turning off fcs checking in
Injoy makes no difference.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]                          17-Nov-99 08:15:05
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:48:22 GMT, James Moe wrote:

:>    I have found recently that I have more trouble connecting to my ISP
:>as well. I have been using these two strings as a basis:
:>1: ATZ
:>2: AT&FI3M0S0=0
:>
:>The important part of the 2nd string is AT&F1. That pre-selects the
:>default hardware handshake control so beloved by modems. (The I# shows
:>modem info; M0 turns the speaker off; s0=0 makes sure the modem won't
:>try to pick up the phone if it rings.)
:>
:>    Another area to explore, since you have InJoy, is Change|Ok|PPP
:>Options. This is where I had the greatest success at (almost)
:>eliminating FCS errors. I turned off MS-CHAP, Addr & Cntl field
:>compression, Protocol Compression, and ECHO-REQ resets  idle timeout.
:>    One one modem VJ compression had to be on; on another it had to be
:>off. Go figure.

I haven't messed around with init strings since my 2400bps days :-)
My last modem (33,600 Rockwell internal) just worked. My 14,400
before that just worked. I'm pulling my hair out with this Courier :-(
I went to the USR site yesterday and downloaded the upgrade
wizard (in NT :-( unfortunately) dialed a local number and flashed
the modem automagically. Hasn't made much difference in OS/2
but BeOS and NT give reliable 49333 connections.

I will not give up until I've tried everything and I'm bald!

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]                          17-Nov-99 08:23:11
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:08:27 +0900, Wayne Bickell wrote:

:>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:48:33 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:
:>
:>:>I don't know if your phone lines are the same as ours here (Aus) but I
:>:>have a USR V Everything (X2) and Injoy and my strings are a bit different-
:>:> AT&F
:>:>
:>:> AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2
:>:>
:>:>I don't get any errors, (so far anyhow) and I have been running this for
:>:>about a year now. Maybe it will work on yours too.
:>:>
:>:>Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
:>:>([e-mail])

I'm using this string right now. I'm still connected at 49333
but something is deifferent!!!! Web pages are loading
mucho faster!!!

Are we getting somewhere? :-)

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]                16-Nov-99 23:35:23
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: Re: VPN

From: [e-mail] (Jack Troughton)

On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 22:11:26, [e-mail] (Mark Dodel)
wrote:

ΩCheck out Tunnel/2 at http://www.fx.dk/tunnel/  It is the only VPN I
Ωknow for OS/2.
█
ΩMark
█
ΩOn Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:53:21, Daniel Tulloch <[e-mail]>
Ωwrote:
█
Ω-)Anyone know of a VPN client for OS/2 compatible or equivalent to
Ω-)CheckPoint's VPN client?
Ω-)
Ω-)Thanks,
Ω-)
Ω-)Dan
Ω-)

TCPIP 4.1 does VPN... firewalling too.

Jack Troughton   ICQ:7494149
http://jakesplace.dhs.org
jack.troughton at videotron.ca
jake at jakesplace.dhs.org
Montr┌al PQ Canada

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From: [e-mail]                              16-Nov-99 14:56:03
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: How to set font for printing books

From: "Harry Zisko" <[e-mail]>

Hello,

I would like to print out a couple of the books included with OS/2 for
reference (e.g. the File and Print Client Guide). I managed to get it to
print, but the font was a rather large monospace font. I'd like to switch to
a smaller variable pitch font for printing. How do I do this? I'm running
Warp 4 @ fixpak 12

Thanks in advance,

Harry Z.


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From: [e-mail]                 16-Nov-99 19:27:07
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: Re: Unattended Shutdown

From: "Dave" <[e-mail]>

 Try setboot the one that comes with OS/2.  Cheap and you can pick the next
partition from which to boot next from.


On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:33:22 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>In <[e-mail]>, on 11/08/99
>   at 08:32 AM, Sergey Antipov <[e-mail]> said:
>
>>Hello everybody!
>>Please help me to find an utility to shutdown OS/2 Warp 3 in unattended
>>mode, i.e. from batch file, with no one pressing "Yes" button during
>>shutdown. The task is to shut down OS/2 server from UPS. PowerShute for
>>OS/2 does not works.
>>Please e-mail to [e-mail]
>>Thanks in advance,
>>Sergey Antipov
>
>OPTI's UPS software does orderly OS/2 APPS shutdown.  I don't know if
>their software would work with other manufacturers' UPS.
>
>I am using a OPTI 420 UPS and it has worked fine.
>
>--
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>[e-mail]
>
>We have the following web pages for your perusal
>
>http://surfcheap.com/?ctsshxm - $14.95/month internet service
>
>http://goglobaldirect.com/?ctsshxm - Global Direct dialaround program
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>http://unitelagent.com/?ctsshxm - Unitel $0.059 Long Distance
>http://moneysaver.net/?ctsshxm - VoCall Calling Cards
>http://LD.net/usatel/?ctsshxm - USATel calling cards
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>http://telcom-mlm.com/?ctsshxm - MLM Opportunity Root
>http://lciagent.com/?ctsshxm - Qwest Residential (formerly LCI)
>http://1016444.com/?ctsshxm - PromiseNet dialaround program
>http://ld.net/kallcents/?ctsshxm - ITL KallCents
>http://longdist.net/?ctsshxm - Best Rates Search Engine
>http://LD.net/roadtel/?ctsshxm - RoadTel calling cards
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From: [e-mail]                              17-Nov-99 00:32:26
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: Re: I can no longer live with OS/2

From: [e-mail] (Anthony)

<[e-mail]> wrote:

>function properly.  I consistently got an error message saying that
>"whatever" server could not be found, there is no DNS entry.  I have
>tried re-installing several times to no avail.  Indelible Blue could

Suprise suprise, Netscape has always had its own dns lookup client.
Well, if you have access to nslookup then run it and first query
for your isp addresses.  If something goes wrong than it is either
the addresses are incorrect or your isp problem.  Otherwise query
the server that returns a "no dns entry" to see if your isp dns
server can translate the ip address of the host on the other end.

>I did notice once when my dial-up connection had timed out and I later
>tried to access a URL without remembering to reconnect first, that it
>got the exact same error message I was getting with NC404.  It seems to
>me that NC404 for some reason does not find my dial-up connection.  I
>have no idea why, because I don't understand how it goes about finding
>the connection to start with.

ARRRhhhh, you were disconnected, how are you suppose Netscape to find
your isp's dns server?

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From: [e-mail]                 17-Nov-99 00:39:25
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: [e-mail] (mark davidson)

i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.  type of cpu isn't important as
long as it meets the 2 objectives.  any recommendations will be
appreciated.

thanks/regards, .. mark davidson

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From: [e-mail]                               16-Nov-99 19:30:17
  To: All                                               16-Nov-99 21:31:09
Subj: Re: Notes Mail 4.1

From: [e-mail]

Try using  ILNotes.exe


>Just an interrupt....

>In <[e-mail]>, on 10/31/1999
>   at 07:35 PM, John Twelker <[e-mail]> said:

>>Before you can use Lotus Notes for your e-mail client,
>>   you have some work to do. (If for some reason you're
>>   RE-installing Lotus Notes Mail client, save files
>>   "names. nsf" and "popmail.nsf" to a safe place if you
>>   have data in them you want to save ... then after
>>   re-installing, copy them back to [Drive:]\Notes\Data
>>   overwriting the new empty files).

>>   1) Install Lotus Notes from Applications Sampler
>>   CD-ROM from OS/2 Window. Change directory to g:
>>   then os2\install and type "instpm".

>Since I have a new machine I jumped onto this train....

>I did this (install the workstation version) and tried if it worked so
>far (should at least do something...). When I double-click the program
>(or start NOTES.EXE from command line), it runs for less then a second
>and then it's finished. Without leaving any trace.

>Does anyone know why? Or where to look?
>The install seemed to run fine.

>Running a ThinkPad 390E on a LAN through TCP/IP. Notes server should be
>somewhere on the TCP/IP...., name and IP-address available.


>Frits


_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                              16-Nov-99 08:42:29
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: Re: What software for chat

From: "Tom Pauncz" <[e-mail]>

Hello,
Do you by any chance have the URL for IRC1_40.ZZIP?
Thanks

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 01:48:58 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:05:37, Dale Winters <[e-mail]>
>wrote:
>
>> Howdy;
>>     Is there os/2 software that will enable me to enter a chat channell
>> on "mirc "
>
>In addition to the other IRC programs mentioned, you might like to try
>the IRC_Java app available from IBM Alphaworks [www.alphaworks.ibm.com
>... the one to look for is IRC1_40.zip ].
>
>  This is freeware, and strikes a nice balance between simplicity of
>use and plenty of neat features.  The best thing is that the code is
>kept right up to date, so it meshes very nicely with the current Java
>release...
>
>David T. Anderson
>Calgary, Alberta
>http://www.agt.net/public/dtander/
>
>Using ProNews/2 for OS/2 Warp
>
>**NOSPAM**  To email me, remove the 's' from my address...

Tom Pauncz


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From: [e-mail]                                16-Nov-99 09:03:13
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: Re: Where i get Microsoft c/c++ v6.0/7.0 Help Files?

From: Kenneth Kahn <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> I downloaded a minimal installed .zip file of Microsoft c/c++ v6.0
> package from internet ,but it hasn't the help files of it that is
> necessary to assist for programming . Does anyone know where i could
> get it so it is to be "free" .

Check out "http://service.boulder.ibm.com/ddk/" which is the "IBM
Developer
Connection Device Driver Kit for OS/2".  You can register for free and
then
access it's download area which includes the complete version of MS-C v6

and the 32-bit MASM6.

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
Internet : [e-mail]
   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
      VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10


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From: [e-mail]                      16-Nov-99 15:52:28
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: Re: >64MB With MSI Athlon Board

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

WolfgangHaas [Swisscom IP+ (post doesn't reflect views of Swisscom)] ->
comp.os.os2.misc:

» > > I have a MSI 6167 Board. With the OS2LDR patch from i have all memory
» > > unter OS2.

» > From where can this patch be obtained?

» From Daniela Engert

Just an idea; why not try to get her to send it to IBM so that they maybe can
include it in the next release of FP (so all can benefit from it directly)?

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                        16-Nov-99 15:48:28
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: Re: Newbie

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:18:12 -0000, Darren <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I want to run a 'server' and OS2 Warp sounds like a brilliant OS to use :-)
> I have never used or seen this OS before.

Well, it depends what kind of 'server' you want.

For a basic internet server (web server, mail server, news, telnet, ftp),
you could do it with one of the client versions (either OS/2 Warp Connect
or OS/2 Warp version 4) plus some free software like apache and other
daemons (mostly ports of Unix programs).  This might take a bit of work.

Frankly, though, if you're going to run an internet server, a Linux or
FreeBSD box would most likely be more cost-effective, and a bit more
'out-of-the-box' ready.  Harder to use and configure, though, so it's
your choice.

If, on the other hand, you want a LAN domain controller or file/print
server, you'd need one of the server editions of OS/2 (Warp Server
version 4, or Warp Server for e-business).  These are phenomenal systems,
but VERY expensive (USD $1700 for the latest version, probably about
half that for version 4 - which may well be adequate) - new, anyway.

> Could someone please point me to some sites with basic support, information
> about the OS and some Screenshots on it.

Other people have given some very helpful links.  To that I might add
http://www.os2ss.com - which links to various useful stuff.

> Also, where can I get a copy of it from, and how much would it cost.

Depends on version.  Warp Connect is no longer sold new, but can often be
found for double-digit prices on ebay or in comp.os.os2.marketplace.  (If
you're very lucky, you might be able to find people willing to give you
theirs for free.  I picked up two copies that way.)  With the latest fix
levels, Warp Connect has 98% of the functionality of Warp 4, although the
user interface isn't quite as pretty.

Warp version 4 costs USD $260 new, much cheaper if you can get the academic
price.  You can try http://www.indelible-blue.com

Like I mentioned, Warp Server is expensive in any version.  I'd advise
trying ebay if you really need it, and looking for Warp Server version 4.
If you work for a technology company, you _might_ check around to see if
anybody has a copy they don't need anymore and is willing to donate it.

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-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                        16-Nov-99 16:00:22
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: Re: How much RAM does OS/2 Warp really want?

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On 16 Nov 1999 05:24:08 GMT, Jim Nuytens
<[e-mail]> wrote:
> 40MB RAM isn't what I would call sufficient for a Warp 4 system. It's
> a little on the "tight" side. I'd suggest at least 64MB.
>
> I have 128MB RAM on a Warp 4 system here and I rarely run out of
> memory unless I've got the machine heavily loaded. With PMMail/2,
> Netscape 4.61, ProNews/2, Seti@Home, Injoy,  PM123, MemSize 4.0, a 2MB
> bitmap for my background (that also counts towards memory usage, you
> know), and the Netware OS/2 client running I just start running low on
> RAM (about 5MB free). I even have Java 1.1.8 and VoiceType installed
> in the system and you know that certain components of those get loaded
> at startup. Even then, I've still not touched more than 1MB of the
> swap file.

For eight months I ran Warp 4 on a 486 DX2/50 with 20 Mb of RAM,
and was pretty happy.  Of course, after I got my PII-400, going back
to the old one was almost unbearably slow, but still...

(It did swap out quite a lot though.  I kept my swap file at 32Mb,
and it tended to grow a bit if I used Netscape a lot, or when compiling/
running Java programs - JDK1.1.6.)

> Now, having said all that, I do have a Warp 3 Connect system
> downstairs that is running on 40MB RAM with a P75 and it's quite happy
> with that. After bootup, I have 15MB free on that system with MemSize
> 4.0 and the Netware client running in the background.

The above 486 is now running Warp 3 connect.  It's down to 16 Mb RAM,
and I notice (to slight puzzlement) that it actually boots up faster
than my PII-400 all-SCSI system with 128Mb of PC100 SDRAM.

(Once they're both booted, the 486 _runs_ much slower, though.)

Incidentally, I've tried putting Warp Connect on a P100 with 8Mb of
RAM, and it really is so slow as to be unusable.  (Speeds up when I
reduce the colour depth, or disable networking.)  I can only conclude
from this that RAM is OS/2's major performance catalyst.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
 Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                         16-Nov-99 16:54:00
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: cdrecord 1.8a31 and yamaha 4416

From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>

I try to burn a image of 240 MB to a cdrw. However, I get a error:
cdrecord: I/O error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
What goes wrong?

Command:
cdrecord dev=0,3,0 speed=4 -v blank=all d:\cdimage\bestand.raw


Cdrecord output:
Last chance to quit, starting real write in 1 seconds.
Blanking entire disk
Blanking time: 1201.250s
Starting new track at sector: 0
Track 01:   0 of 234 MB written.cdrecord: I/O error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd:
retryable error
CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00
status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS)
cmd finished after 0.030s timeout 40s

write track data: error after 0 bytes
Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Writing  time:    5.200s
Fixating...
cdrecord: I/O error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 2C 04 00 00 00 00
Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
Sense Code: 0x2C Qual 0x04 (current program area is empty) Fru 0x0
Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 480s



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From: [e-mail]                         16-Nov-99 16:18:11
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: Latest pmmerge.dll

From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>

The latest pmmerge.dll makes:
a. the screen updates and program loads are much faster on my machine, 133
mhz pentium. I do not know why. FM/2 loads for example within 2 seconds,
before fixpack 12 and this pmmerge.dll version it was at least 4 seconds.
Colorworks is ready with screen painting within 5 seconds after starting the
program.
b. it fixes the sys3175, sys3171 etc. errors in numerous applications. I
blanked my popup.log -40 KB in about 6 weeks- and after one day normal use it
remains empty.

You can download pmr00052 fix from:

ftp://protein.bio.msu.su/pub/os2/fixes/pmr00052.zip

Sorry for poor connection to my server, you'd probably need to use wget
or other ftp client supporting automatic resuming of broken downloads.

Cheers,
Ivan

>>It's included in pmr00052.zip that was briefly posted to the IBM
>>testcase.boulder.ibm.com site.  I suggest that you contact Ivan
>>Adzhubei, [e-mail] and ask if he still has it available
>>for FTP.  That's where I got the copy I just installed on my system.



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From: [e-mail]                             16-Nov-99 08:39:12
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: Re: IDE Hard Drive upgrade. Please help.

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Does anyone Have any experience with the most recent high capacity IDE
> hard drives under OS/2?
>
> I'd like to replace my current 6GB with something in the 20GB to 37GB
> range.

I just installed a 13.5 GB IBM 7200 rpm drive without a problem.  It
installs just like a 130 MB drive, just a larger partition(s) :).  I
used the DANIS506.ADD driver rather than the IBM1S506.ADD driver but the
need for this is a function of the controller chipset (AMD Irongate/VIA)
in my case rather than the disk drive.

>
> I am inclined to buy the WD Caviar models, past experiences has been very
> good. But all sugestions are welcome.
>
> e-mail replies are greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> [e-mail]
>
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From: [e-mail]                          16-Nov-99 17:06:12
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 00:49:20
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Roland Pinches" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:48:33 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:

<snip>
>
>I don't know if your phone lines are the same as ours here (Aus) but I
>have a USR V Everything (X2) and Injoy and my strings are a bit different-
> AT&F
>
> AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2
>
>I don't get any errors, (so far anyhow) and I have been running this for
>about a year now. Maybe it will work on yours too.
>
>Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
>([e-mail])
>
Can anyone explain what this string does?
I've just put it into InJoy and my connection speed has gone up from 49333 to
50666. Nothing major I'll admit, but maybe there is room for further
improvement....

Thanks,
Roly.


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From: [e-mail]                                16-Nov-99 16:48:19
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 01:54:22
Subj: Re: Palm Pilot

From: [e-mail] (rj friedman)

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:17:58, Brad BARCLAY
<[e-mail]> wrote:

ε> 2 questions:
ε>
ε> Where does it store the data it backs up?

ε    The backups are stored in a file called <your Palm username>.backup,
εand are generally stored either in the directory you specify in the
ε"jsyncman.home" property (more on this in a bit), or in "user.home",
εwhich under OS/2 tends to be the \JAVA11 directory IIRC.

ε> Can you create a command file and launch this from an icon?  (I'm about to
ε> try....)

ε    You certainly can.  Just create a program object, select "JAVAPM.EXE"
εas the program to run, and then select the following as the parameters:
»
ε    -Djsyncman.home=X:\my_directory
εCA.BrockU.cosc.PalmPilot.jSyncManager.JSyncManager


And there was a third question which was: "How do I go about
export an address book from Organizer to the Palm Pilot?"

Is there a way to do this (or from some other address book)
yet? I know you developed a method for it to be done - but
has anyone picked up the ball on this that you know of?


________________________________________________________

[RJ]                 OS/2 - Live it, or live with it.
rj friedman          Team ABW
Taipei, Taiwan       [e-mail]

To send email - remove the `yyy'
________________________________________________________

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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            16-Nov-99 19:18:02
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:14
Subj: Re: Palm Pilot

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/15/99
   at 10:17 AM, Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> said:

>The backups are stored in a file called <your Palm username>.backup, and
>are generally stored either in the directory you specify in the
>"jsyncman.home" property (more on this in a bit), or in "user.home", which
>under OS/2 tends to be the \JAVA11 directory IIRC.
>

I found that mine created a directory d:\home and that's where it's storing
all of my *.backup information.  I don't know why, but that's fine with me.
When I tried the option you suggested (with the properties before the
command line -- I didn't copy them over here), no *.backup file was
created.

This works great.

I do find that I have to reset the options every time I launch the program
(e.g. set it to backup, high speed transfer, etc.).

--
GK

FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
There are 30 Processes with 112 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 3d 10h 34m 36s 984ms.


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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 00:38:28
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:14
Subj: Re: How much RAM does OS/2 Warp really want?

From: [e-mail]

In <NcfY3.61339$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Alex Taylor) writes:
>
>Incidentally, I've tried putting Warp Connect on a P100 with 8Mb of
>RAM, and it really is so slow as to be unusable.  (Speeds up when I
>reduce the colour depth, or disable networking.)  I can only conclude
>from this that RAM is OS/2's major performance catalyst.
>
>

Once upon a time, the standard press Windows-OS/2 comparison went
something like " OS/2 performs better, but it takes a LOT of RAM, so you
should buy WIndows." (guess that was back when there was a little
integrity left in journalism.) I noticed that when RAM prices dropped
through the floor that the same magazines did NOT rush out to remind
everyone that OS/2 was better now that the RAM-dollar barrier had just
disappeared.  Journalism, pah.

128 megs here and it runs like a top, almost never exceeds the 1 meg
initial swap size. That extra 64 megs might be the best performance
enhancement you can buy.

--
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
> Alex Taylor                  BA - CIS - University of Guelph
> [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
>-----------------------------------------------------------------


--
härad ængravvåd

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From: [e-mail]                              17-Nov-99 01:51:03
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:14
Subj: Re: OS/2 Bootmanager and NT 4 problem

From: [e-mail] (Anthony)

<[e-mail]> wrote:
>In message <c1.01.2SNvY4$[e-mail]> - [e-mail] writes:
>>
>>In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>>
>>>I've installed NT 4 on my PC, which also has
>>>OS/2, Linux, and Windows 95.  After I install
>>>NT and enable bootmanger, and reboot, the drive
>>>letters are messed up in NT.  I think NT must
>>>arrange drive letters based on the startable
>>>or active partition.  Anyway around this problem?
>>
>>
>>I had this same problem, except that i installed NT *first* 'cuz
>>MS products are notoriously predatory. NT 4 was fine on C:, but
>>after BeOS went on the other primary and OS/2 on D: logical
>>NT decided the first primary partition on the first hard disk was
>>F: for some reason. (the reason is that NT is incredibly stupid)
>>"Disk Administrator" in will you to change drive letter designations.
>>It will also "write a signature to the hard disk" which terrified me,
>>but it went okay.
>>
>>If you ever do a fdisk /newmbr later that will trash NT's drive
>>letter designations, back into Disk Administrator you go.
>
>Thanks. I will try disk administrator.  I also noticed something
>else.  I have two SCSI controllers in my PC and NT orders them
>"backwards" compared to OS/2, Linux, and evidently Windows 95.
>i.e the controller that is listed as "0" in the other OSes is
>"1" in NT and the "1" controller is "0".

NT must be booted with chain-booting method, even some commercial
booter can fail if you dont install other O/S after NT move in.
The best way to muti-boot NT with all the other better O/S is
to use the NTloader to boot OS/2.  I know it sucks but it is not
hard to setup.  One warning though, if you mess up the boot sector
there is no way to recover it back to the hard disk even if you
save the boot sectors and put it back to the C: drive
dont ask me why I have tried everything.

I had two incident that disk administrator mess up another partition
it is evil.

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From: [e-mail]                                  16-Nov-99 21:00:03
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:14
Subj: Re: Device Driver Fixpack

From: [e-mail] (John Brock)

In article <[e-mail]>,
David T. Johnson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Bob Grimes wrote:
>>
>> Where is the fixpack?  I looked on the NCSD page, and it disappeared!  I
>> have DD1, but I was wondering if they had updated the package?

>Fixpacks 11 and 12 for OS/2 v4 DO NOT include the device driver fixes.
>You have to apply a separate device driver fixpack.  The device driver
>fixpack no. 1 consists of two disks and is available here:
>
>ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/xr_d001/

If you are reinstalling Warp 4.0 from scratch which should be applied
first, the OS fixpack or the device driver fixpack?  Does it matter?
--
John Brock
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                            16-Nov-99 17:56:10
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:14
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: Pat Pridgen <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Roland Pinches wrote:

> > AT&F
> >
> > AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2

> Can anyone explain what this string does?
> I've just put it into InJoy and my connection speed has gone up from 49333
to
> 50666. Nothing major I'll admit, but maybe there is room for further
> improvement....

try doing an at$ at a command prompt. I'm guessing your Courier will
respond the same as the two sportsters that I've owned. It'll give you a
break down of the at commands, and more commands for the S registers and
the & ampersand commands.

--
Pat - La Grande,OR.  http://www.greencis.net/~ppridgen
LHS 69   http://school.oregonlive.com/school/lhs1969
Linux - OS/2 dual boot. Win what?

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From: [e-mail]                              16-Nov-99 20:10:04
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:14
Subj: Lock up after awhile...

From: "Richard N. Hinton" <[e-mail]>

Ever since upgrading my main chip to a AMD 450 mHz chip, I notice that
when I leave
OS2/V4/fp11 alone for a half an hour or more, it tends to lock up and I
have to re-boot, and go
though the chkdsk process once again.  What would cause this to happen?
Sounds like a
config.sys setting to me?

Second question: I am thinking of purchasing a 36.5 gig hard drive, will
OS-2 work on it?

Richard N. Hinton
[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]                           17-Nov-99 03:11:05
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: Lock up after awhile...

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 01:10:08, "Richard N. Hinton"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Ever since upgrading my main chip to a AMD 450 mHz chip, I notice that
> when I leave
> OS2/V4/fp11 alone for a half an hour or more, it tends to lock up and I
> have to re-boot, and go
> though the chkdsk process once again.  What would cause this to happen?
> Sounds like a
> config.sys setting to me?
>
> Second question: I am thinking of purchasing a 36.5 gig hard drive, will
> OS-2 work on it?
>

The HD should work with the updated IDE drivers that are
in the DD fixpack 1.

The machine locking up like that sounds more like
a hardware error to me. There may be a timing glitch
with the new CPU or some other kind of hardware error.

Is the new CPU on the same motherboard you were using
before?

Lorne Sunley


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From: [e-mail]                              17-Nov-99 03:54:02
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


mark davidson wrote:
>
> i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz

    Just about any will do this. I am using epox MBs. DFI and ASUS are
also highly recommended.


> and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.

   !!???!? I do not believe it is possible for a PC mainboard to do
this. The largest I have heard recently is 2 MB. Though I have heard
discussion of a third level cache for the pentium3 and amd k7; even so,
those were in the 8 MB max range.
    Have you yourself heard of this kind of MB with such a large cache?
How much RAM were you planning on having then? 2 GB?


--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]....               17-Nov-99 04:20:25
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: How much RAM does OS/2 Warp really want?

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:00:45, [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)
wrote:

> For eight months I ran Warp 4 on a 486 DX2/50 with 20 Mb of RAM,
> and was pretty happy.  Of course, after I got my PII-400, going back
> to the old one was almost unbearably slow, but still...
>
> (It did swap out quite a lot though.  I kept my swap file at 32Mb,
> and it tended to grow a bit if I used Netscape a lot, or when compiling/
> running Java programs - JDK1.1.6.)

Well, I did manage to install Warp 4 on an old Dell 486 laptop with
20MB RAM, but I'd hardly call it usable. That thing spent nearly as
much time swapping as it did any actual work. :-)

> The above 486 is now running Warp 3 connect.  It's down to 16 Mb RAM,
> and I notice (to slight puzzlement) that it actually boots up faster
> than my PII-400 all-SCSI system with 128Mb of PC100 SDRAM.

The Dell now runs Warp 3 Connect and is much happier. I'll never try
putting Warp 4 on any system that doesn't have at least 64MB RAM and a
P100. It's just not worth it.


"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]....               17-Nov-99 04:23:25
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 00:39:51, [e-mail] (mark
davidson) wrote:

> i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
> and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.  type of cpu isn't important as
> long as it meets the 2 objectives.  any recommendations will be
> appreciated.

If you can find them, I'd suggest the FIC 503+ (AT style) or the FIC
2013 (ATX style) boards. 1MB cache handles 128MB RAM nicely and Warp 4
sees all the RAM.


"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 05:29:00
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: ATX motherboards

From: [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)

Do the latest fixpacks make OS/2 support ATX motherboards?

Edmond Dantes
phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 05:27:20
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: (No subject)

From: [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)

I Just got an ISP Soundblaster 32 AWE PnP.  The drivers from Device
Driver Online
site worked for wave audio but the MIDI doesn't.  Here's my
CONFIG.SYS:


SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1
IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:1024 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:CEFG
SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY
PROTSHELL=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET USER_INI=C:\OS2\OS2.INI
SET SYSTEM_INI=C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
SET OS2_SHELL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS,WARPCENTER
SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
SET COMSPEC=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
LIBPATH=.;C:\OS2\DLL;C:\MPTN\DLL;C:\IBMCOM\DLL;C:\IBMI18N\DLL;C:\OS2\M
DOS;C:\;C:\OS2\APPS\DLL;C:\JAVA11\DLL;C:\MMOS2\DLL;C:\IBMINST;c:\tcpip
\dll;c:\tcpip\pcomos2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\EMX\DLL;E:\EPM6\DLL;E:\CWORKS;
C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DLL;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON;E:\EPM6\EPM_SPEL;E:\N
S_461\PROGRAM;E:\NS_202;E:\EMBLSH;e:\wamp_b4;E:\Office51
SET
PATH=C:\MPTN\BIN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;C:\
OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\JAVA11\BIN;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpi
p\bin;c:\tcpip\pcomos2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\EMX\BIN;E:\NS_461\PROGRAM;E:\
NS_202;E:\EPM6;E:\MARKSSCRIPTS;E:\MARKSPROGS;e:\maplay;E:\CWORKS;e:\le
ech120;e:\bladeenc2_082;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\BIN;E:\EMBLSH;e:\wamp_b4;E:
\Office51
SET
DPATH=C:\MPTN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;C:\OS2
\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\BITMAP;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\MMOS2;C:\MMOS2\I
NSTALL;C:\IBMINST;C:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;
SET PROMPT=$i[$p]
SET
HELP=E:\NS_202;C:\MPTN;C:\OS2\HELP;C:\MMOS2\HELP;c:\tcpip\help;C:\TCPI
P\UMAIL;E:\CWORKS;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;E:\EMBLSH;
SET GLOSSARY=C:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS;
SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS
PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES
FILES=20
BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS
basedev=ibmatapi.flt
DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM /S
DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS
BUFFERS=90
IOPL=YES
DISKCACHE=D,LW
MAXWAIT=3
MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT
SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 2048
BREAK=OFF
THREADS=1024
PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134
COUNTRY=001,C:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS
SET KEYS=ON
SET BOOKSHELF=C:\OS2\BOOK;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpip\help;f:\books;
SET
SOMIR=C:\OS2\ETC\SOM.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPSH.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPDSERV.IR;C:\OS
2\ETC\REXX.IR
SET SOMDDIR=C:\OS2\ETC\DSOM
SET ULSPATH=C:\LANGUAGE;
SET LOCPATH=C:\IBMI18N\LOCALE;C:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE;
BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS
REM SET
DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;E:\DELETE,512;F:\DELETE,512;G:\DELE
TE,512;
BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS
BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD
SET EPMPATH=E:\EPM6;E:\EPM6\MAC;E:\EPM6\MARKS;E:\EPM6\MAC\MARKS;
PROTECTONLY=NO
SHELL=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS
FCBS=16,8
RMSIZE=640
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS
DOS=LOW,NOUMB
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VW32S.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\APM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VAPM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q
IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS
BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS
SET LANG=EN_US
SET TZ=est5edt
CODEPAGE=437,850
DEVINFO=KBD,US,C:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP
DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,C:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP
SET VIO_VGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA)
SET DMIPATH=C:\DMISL\BIN
RUN=C:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
SET
CLASSPATH=.\.;E:\NS_202\njclass.zip;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON\JAVAPROB
ZIP;
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SBAWED2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:5 /A:220 /M:330
/N:SBAUD1$ /P
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$
SET MMBASE=C:\MMOS2;
SET DSPPATH=C:\MMOS2\DSP;
SET NCDEBUG=4000
RUN=C:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\VCSHDD.SYS
RUN=C:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE
CALL=C:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE
RUN=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE
SET
NLSPATH=c:\tcpip\msg\%L\%N;C:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;c:\tcpip\msg\enus850\%N;
SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC
DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\MACS\EL90X.OS2
SET I18NDIR=C:\IBMI18N
SET TMP=c:\tcpip\tmp
SET HOSTNAME=cx342824-a
DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.vdd
DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.sys
RUN=c:\tcpip\bin\VDOSCTL.EXE
DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS
DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\IFNDIS.SYS
RUN=C:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE
CALL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C C:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL
SET PROGDRIVE=E
SET DATADRIVE=F
SET BACKGROUNDDIR=F:\DESKPICS
SET FOLDPICDIR=F:\FOLDPICS
SET INCLUDE=C:\JAVA11\INCLUDE;C:\JAVA11\INCLUDE\OS2;
SET LIB=C:\JAVA11\LIB;
REM **************TIN
SET USER=phydeaux
SET NNTPSERVER=news.dt1.sdca.home.com
SET HOME=f:\edantes
DEVICE=C:\MGA\OS2\KMGAX64.SYS
SET MGA=C:\MGA\OS2
SET VIO_MGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BMGAX64)
SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_MGA
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMGAX64.SYS

Please Help.


Edmond Dantes
phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com

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From: [e-mail]                           17-Nov-99 05:45:29
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: ATX motherboards

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:29:00, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes) wrote:

> Do the latest fixpacks make OS/2 support ATX motherboards?
>

Exactly what are you asking about?

Are you referring the power control handling for
the motherboard or something else?

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                             16-Nov-99 21:57:22
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>

mark davidson wrote:
>
> i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
> and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.  type of cpu isn't important as
> long as it meets the 2 objectives.  any recommendations will be
> appreciated.


The ASUS K7M with the Athlon processor is a very sweet OS/2 platform.
Has UDMA/66 that works and is supported by the DANIS506.ADD driver.  And
OS/2 sees all of the memory over 64 MB.

>
> thanks/regards, .. mark davidson

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From: [e-mail]                              17-Nov-99 06:30:01
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: VMWare and OS2

From: Sam <[e-mail]>

Has anyone tryed this combo...I have tryed just booting, and it doesn't
work....I really want it to work...any suggestions?

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: [e-mail]                                17-Nov-99 01:33:07
  To: [e-mail]                                       17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

To: James Moe <[e-mail]>
From: Mark Schlegel <[e-mail]>

James Moe wrote:
>
> mark davidson wrote:
> >
> > i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
>
>     Just about any will do this. I am using epox MBs. DFI and ASUS are
> also highly recommended.
>
> > and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.
>
>    !!???!? I do not believe it is possible for a PC mainboard to do
> this. The largest I have heard recently is 2 MB. Though I have heard
> discussion of a third level cache for the pentium3 and amd k7; even so,
> those were in the 8 MB max range.
>     Have you yourself heard of this kind of MB with such a large cache?
> How much RAM were you planning on having then? 2 GB?
>
> --
>
> sma at rtd dot com
> Remove ".spam-not" for email

You misunderstood him, he doesn't mean the SRAM cache
is 64MB, but that the cache is caching a system DRAM
that is > 64MB, the SRAM cache doing that is a lot smaller..
probably more like 512 KB.

Mark

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From: [e-mail]                                      16-Nov-99 21:20:19
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: Lock up after awhile...

From: Lee Pearson <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:10:08 -0500, Richard N. Hinton wrote:

>Ever since upgrading my main chip to a AMD 450 mHz chip, I notice that
>when I leave
>OS2/V4/fp11 alone for a half an hour or more, it tends to lock up and I
>have to re-boot, and go
>though the chkdsk process once again.  What would cause this to happen?

Do you have a temperature monitor in your CMOS setup?  Check the CPU temp
after
20 minutes or so.  The K6-2's at 400> run hot, and not all heatsinks+fans that

say they are for the K6 will actually do the job of moving that heat away from

the CPU.

--Lee



---
============================
Lee Pearson <[e-mail]>
============================


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From: [e-mail]                                17-Nov-99 00:13:11
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 03:37:15
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 03:54:05, James Moe <[e-mail]> wrote:

>    !!???!? I do not believe it is possible for a PC mainboard to do
> this. The largest I have heard recently is 2 MB. Though I have heard
> discussion of a third level cache for the pentium3 and amd k7; even so,
> those were in the 8 MB max range.
>     Have you yourself heard of this kind of MB with such a large cache?
> How much RAM were you planning on having then? 2 GB?

I think he's talking about the L2 cache being able to cache more than
64 MB of RAM, not the size of the cache itself.  Intel TX and some
other chip sets had this limitation.  Anything with later Intel chip
sets should work.  Certainly, the VIA and SIS chipsets will cache
more.  My FIC board with VIA chips allows up to 2 MB of L2 caches and
will supposedly cache up to 1 GB of RAM (or was that 2 GB - whatever
it was, it exceeded my wallet capacity).

Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                                17-Nov-99 00:13:12
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:26:29
Subj: Re: Device Driver Fixpack

From: [e-mail] (Will Honea)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 02:00:06, [e-mail] (John Brock) wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]>,
> David T. Johnson <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >Bob Grimes wrote:
> >>
> >> Where is the fixpack?  I looked on the NCSD page, and it disappeared!  I
> >> have DD1, but I was wondering if they had updated the package?
>
> >Fixpacks 11 and 12 for OS/2 v4 DO NOT include the device driver fixes.
> >You have to apply a separate device driver fixpack.  The device driver
> >fixpack no. 1 consists of two disks and is available here:
> >
> >ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/xr_d001/
>
> If you are reinstalling Warp 4.0 from scratch which should be applied
> first, the OS fixpack or the device driver fixpack?  Does it matter?

Makes no difference but there is a caveat:  if you have not applied a
fixpak later than something like 5 or 6 there are some files which
will not be serviced by applying both FP12 and DD01 to a GA level
system according to some info posted here a couple of months back.

Will Honea <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 01:15:07
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:26:29
Subj: Re: >64MB Memory: A fix from our favorite OS/2 programmer...

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail]
spake unto us, saying:

>Daniela Engert has once again come through in spades for the OS/2 user...

Wow!  She's good!!  Can we elect her Queen of OS/2 or something?  :-)

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                     Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!

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From: [e-mail]                                   17-Nov-99 07:23:28
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:26:29
Subj: Joystick Device Driver Contest..Authors Please Read!!!!

From: [e-mail] (Jason Stefanovich)

  I HAVE RECIEVED AN OFFER FROM A COMPANY FOR A
DONATION OF AN AMMOUNT OVER $100.  THIS COMPANY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF
THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT BEFORE THEY PUT THEIR
MONEY DOWN.  IF YOU ARE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT PLEASE CONTACT ME AT
[e-mail]

The MAMERun Joystick Device Driver Contest:
http://home1.gte.net/stefanj/contest.htm

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From: [e-mail]                                  17-Nov-99 08:03:17
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:26:29
Subj: Re: >64MB With MSI Athlon Board

From: [e-mail]

Daniela Engert choose the more pragmatic solution and posted the patch
to Hobbes: Go there (hobbes.nmsu.edu) and search for "patchldr" and you
will find it in /pub/new or wherever it is placed in the meantime!

Cornelis Bockemⁿhl <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> In article <V2IxONgrKXpj3=[e-mail]>
>        Remove "Martin Nisshagen" writes:
>
> > [...re: Daniela Engert's OS2LDR patch]
> > Just an idea; why not try to get her to send it to IBM so that
> > they maybe can include it in the next release of FP (so all can
> > benefit from it directly)?
>
> If only that kind of common sense would actually work in the IBM
> world.  They seem averse to employing even good third party code.
> Ray Gwinn's (sp?) SIO s/ware could have helped Warp, way back.  I
> am sure other examples exist.  Is it because of rights issues, or
> Not Invented Here, or what?
> --
> Andrew Stephenson
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 01:18:20
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:26:29
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.5 steals focus

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Raphael
Tennenbaum)
spake unto us, saying:

>I am not hearing good things about OD's VDs, so I might
>check if one of the other ones (Megadesk used to work very
>well here) solves this.

You might want to check out PageMage or PC/2.  Each has a pretty good
virtual desktop function.  I'd also recommend 9Lives if there was a way
to register it anymore...  :-(

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
             ...and then she pressed the ctrl key...  :-)

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 01:17:13
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:26:29
Subj: Re: ATX motherboards

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)
spake unto us, saying:

>Do the latest fixpacks make OS/2 support ATX motherboards?

I have multiple boxes here with ATX mommyboards, and two of them have
run OS/2 just fine (this one is now!).  But I suspect you're interested
in something more specific...?

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 01:55:20
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:26:29
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Sam <[e-mail]> spake unto us, saying:

>Has anyone tryed this combo...I have tryed just booting, and it doesn't
>work....I really want it to work...any suggestions?

I understand support for running OS/2 in a VMWare virtual machine is
being worked on, but so far the VMWare folks haven't announced support
for OS/2.  I'd ask them about it.  Add your name to the list.  :-)

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           I have not lost my mind - it's backed up on tape!

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 08:59:26
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:26:29
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: [e-mail] (David LaRue)

  Mark,

  I've been using DFI's P2XBL/D and P2XBL/S boards.  Both of these have had
no problems with the memory problems reported lately.  They support udma
but I use only SCSI-I/II/III devices so I can't vouch for the udma quality.
They
aren't mainboards, but they do work well with OS/2.  I was looking at
mainboards too for a long time.  The on board SCSI support is what moved me.
That may not be of any use to you though.

  Good luck,

  David LaRue

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (mark davidson) writes:
>i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
>and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.  type of cpu isn't important as
>long as it meets the 2 objectives.  any recommendations will be
>appreciated.
>
>thanks/regards, .. mark davidson

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 12:46:25
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:27:00
Subj: Re: Palm Pilot

From: [e-mail]

Hi Brad

    Brad>     Not yet AFAIK.  The address book wrapper class is done
    Brad> (although not sufficiently tested).  Once I get v1.1 out the
    Brad> door I might sit down and write a CSV (Comma Seperated
    Brad> Value) import/export jConduit for the Address Book in order
    Brad> to provide a base-level compatibility with most PIMs, but to
    Brad> do it right someone neds to write a jConduit to do this
    Brad> work.

Hmmh, most PIMs (at least with os/2) use a db3 or db5
file-format. IRCC, someone has already developed a java-class to
access dbase files. Would't that be esier?

        Cheers

                Uli

--
    Uli Wortmann           Fax (Switzerland) (1) 632  1080
    Dept. of Geology       Fon                        3694
    ETH-Zuerich    http://www.erdw.ethz.ch/~bonk/bonk.html
    Visit the SPOC-team at http://www.spoc.ethz.ch

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From: [e-mail]                               17-Nov-99 12:07:16
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:27:00
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: [e-mail] (Csaba Raduly)

[e-mail] (Christopher E. Souter) wrote in
<[e-mail]>:

>Hi, everyone!
>
>Thank you for such quick replies!
>
>Your help is greatly appreciated!
>
>Best regards
>Chris Souter
>(Australia)
>[e-mail]
>
>
>Shane Baker wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:19:39 +1000, Christopher E. Souter wrote:
>>
>> >I recently upgraded from Warp 3 to Warp 4.
>> >
>> >One reason why I did this is because I understood that,
>> >among other things, Warp 4 is supposed to support True
>> >Type fonts.
>> >
[snip]
>> Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts
>> from the source.
>>

Isn't the font palette limited to eight entries ?

Csaba
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From: [e-mail]                                    17-Nov-99 07:06:10
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:27:00
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: [e-mail] (Dan Casey)

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (mark davidson) wrote:
>i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
>and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.  type of cpu isn't important as
>long as it meets the 2 objectives.  any recommendations will be
>appreciated.
>
>thanks/regards, .. mark davidson

Unfortunatley, the type of processor DOES matter. For Socket 7
(Pentium, AMD K6, K6-2, and Cyrix), the only Intel chipset that would
cache more than 64 Mb of RAM was the old HX, which is no longer
produced, and only available on very outdated mainboards.

VIA and SiS chipsets will cache more than 64 Mb of RAM, and work well
with OS/2, provided you use Dani's IDE Drivers (DANIS506.ADD from
Hobbes).

Pentium III Mainboards with Intel chipsets will cache more than 64 Mb
of Ram.

Athlon (AMD K7 processors) need a patch to the OS2LDR file, also from
Dani, and also available at hobbes, in order for OS/2 to even see more
than 64 Mb of RAM in the system. Once that patch is applied, all of
the ram should be recognized. I say *should* because the patch has
only been available for about 5 days, and all reports have been
positive, so far.

In short, the Socket 7 mainboards are the only ones with limitations
on the amount of RAM that can be cached, so processor type does make a
difference.

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From: [e-mail]                 17-Nov-99 08:02:12
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 10:27:00
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: mark davidson <[e-mail]>

On 17 Nov 1999 00:13:23 -0700, [e-mail] (Will Honea) wrote:

you are correct.  as i'm intel-stupid, might you be able to list which
of their chipsets does not suffer the memory caching limitation of the
TX series?

thanks/regards, .. mark davidson

>I think he's talking about the L2 cache being able to cache more than
>64 MB of RAM, not the size of the cache itself.  Intel TX and some
>other chip sets had this limitation.  Anything with later Intel chip
>sets should work.  Certainly, the VIA and SIS chipsets will cache
>more.  My FIC board with VIA chips allows up to 2 MB of L2 caches and
>will supposedly cache up to 1 GB of RAM (or was that 2 GB - whatever
>it was, it exceeded my wallet capacity).
>
>Will Honea <[e-mail]>



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From: [e-mail]                                    17-Nov-99 07:58:21
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: How much RAM does OS/2 Warp really want?

From: [e-mail] (James Knott)

In article <[e-mail]>, tom <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>Richard Steiner wrote:
>
>> OS/2 Warp 3's sweet spot was around 16MB or so, but it would gain some
>> performance at 32MB as well.  It would boot and was usable in 8MB if
>> you used something like TSHELL (no GUI).
>
>When memory was high priced, I had it up and
>running under 4megs with the GUI JUST FINE.

When I first started running OS/2 (v2.0), I had a 386DX-33 & 4 MB.  It
was slow.  I soon upgraded to 8 then 16 MB.  Someone I know ran
(walked?) OS/2 on a 386SX-16 & 5 MB.  Painful!!!

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From: [e-mail]                               17-Nov-99 09:04:23
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 14:38:16
Subj: Startup Folder Problem

From: [e-mail]

I'm stumped on this one.  Programs in my startup folder are not starting.
Where do I start looking for the problem? What can keep a program from
running?

Two of the programs are Dragtext and the IBM Thinkpad Trackpoint driver.
There doesn't seem to be any relationship between them, the problem exists
individually.  The RSJ error log seems to behave the same way when the
burner is installed on the system (doesn't load as it should).

The only program that seems to work is TCPIP startup up -- or I assume it
is since I can get out to the ISP with this message.

_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                            17-Nov-99 07:27:11
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: Startup Folder Problem

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

Do you have this in your config.sys?

SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I'm stumped on this one.  Programs in my startup folder are not starting.
> Where do I start looking for the problem? What can keep a program from
> running?
>
> Two of the programs are Dragtext and the IBM Thinkpad Trackpoint driver.
> There doesn't seem to be any relationship between them, the problem exists
> individually.  The RSJ error log seems to behave the same way when the
> burner is installed on the system (doesn't load as it should).
>
> The only program that seems to work is TCPIP startup up -- or I assume it
> is since I can get out to the ISP with this message.
>
> _____________
> Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

--
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Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                          17-Nov-99 14:11:07
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 14:38:16
Subj: Re: OS/2 Bootmanager and NT 4 problem

From: [e-mail] (Kevin Croxen)

On 17 Nov 1999 01:51:07 GMT, Anthony <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>NT must be booted with chain-booting method, even some commercial
>booter can fail if you dont install other O/S after NT move in.
>The best way to muti-boot NT with all the other better O/S is
>to use the NTloader to boot OS/2.  I know it sucks but it is not
>hard to setup.  One warning though, if you mess up the boot sector
>there is no way to recover it back to the hard disk even if you
>save the boot sectors and put it back to the C: drive
>dont ask me why I have tried everything.
>
>I had two incident that disk administrator mess up another partition
>it is evil.


The trouble with booting OS/2 from the NT Bootloader is that M$'s
Bootloader patch can only handle OS/2 in a FAT partition (unless
this has very recently been fixed). OS/2 in native HPFS is a non-
starter. For this reason it's better to let the NT Bootloader just
handle the M$ operating systems on a machine, and use such things
as OS/2 bootmanager or LILO or whatever for the more serious stuff.

--Kevin

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From: [e-mail]                                  17-Nov-99 15:01:22
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 14:38:16
Subj: AWE64 Value soundcard

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

The last soundcard that I actually got to work was a AWE32 Value. partly
because I wish to have a card that supports full-duplex operation, I am
thinking of purchasing the AWE64 Value. But this card is not listed in the
Selective Install soundcard list. Is there a way to support it under
Warp4/FP10?

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: [e-mail]                        17-Nov-99 11:30:16
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 14:38:17
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Paul M. Pilon" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:06:25 +0000 (GMT), Roland Pinches wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:48:33 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
><snip>
>>
>>I don't know if your phone lines are the same as ours here (Aus) but I
>>have a USR V Everything (X2) and Injoy and my strings are a bit different-
>> AT&F
>>
>> AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2
>>
>>I don't get any errors, (so far anyhow) and I have been running this for
>>about a year now. Maybe it will work on yours too.
>>
>>Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
>>([e-mail])
>>
>Can anyone explain what this string does?
>I've just put it into InJoy and my connection speed has gone up from 49333 to
>50666. Nothing major I'll admit, but maybe there is room for further
>improvement....
>
>Thanks,
>Roly.
>
>
My experience is slightly different with this string.  I put it into my DOIP
and although it didn't increase my my speed any greater than it's present
44,000, I found that pages are loading much faster.  My benchmark for testing
these is the OS2 Supersite page


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From: [e-mail]                           17-Nov-99 15:57:02
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 14:38:17
Subj: Re: AWE64 Value soundcard

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:01:44, [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:

> The last soundcard that I actually got to work was a AWE32 Value. partly
> because I wish to have a card that supports full-duplex operation, I am
> thinking of purchasing the AWE64 Value. But this card is not listed in the
> Selective Install soundcard list. Is there a way to support it under
> Warp4/FP10?
>

There are a set of the beta drivers that came out of Creative Labs
just before they stopped supporting OS/2. The drivers work
fairly well (at least on the machine I had an AWE64 card in),
however, they do not support full duplex operation for the
card. (I've heard alleged quotes of specious claims from
Creative that OS/2 does not support full duplex sound).

If you want to have full duplex sound, you will have to
abandon the idea of using any Creative sound card
(unless you want to write a driver) and get something
like one of the Crystal Audio chipset cards or the
ESS chipset cards.

Lorne Sunley

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From: [e-mail]                             17-Nov-99 08:59:06
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 14:38:17
Subj: Re: Lock up after awhile...

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


"Richard N. Hinton" wrote:
>
> Ever since upgrading my main chip to a AMD 450 mHz chip, I notice that
> when I leave
> OS2/V4/fp11 alone for a half an hour or more, it tends to lock up and I
> have to re-boot, and go
> though the chkdsk process once again.  What would cause this to happen?
> Sounds like a
> config.sys setting to me?

If you have a Matrox video card, get the updated Matrox BIOS (must be
unzipped with Win95 but can be installed from OS/2 DOS prompt) and
latest driver.  Sometimes a glitch in the video system can do this.


>
> Second question: I am thinking of purchasing a 36.5 gig hard drive, will
> OS-2 work on it?

Yes as long as there is a driver for your chipset.  The DANIS506.ADD
driver supports most current IDE controller chipsets.

>
> Richard N. Hinton
> [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               17-Nov-99 13:34:23
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 16:33:03
Subj: Re: Palm Pilot

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote:
> I found that mine created a directory d:\home and that's where it's storing
> all of my *.backup information.  I don't know why, but that's fine with me.
> When I tried the option you suggested (with the properties before the
> command line -- I didn't copy them over here), no *.backup file was
> created.

    Interesting - considering there is no code in the jSyncManager to
create directories :).  The user.home Java property must be pointing
there, and the JVM must be creating it when the file is being
generated.  Interesting :).

> This works great.
>
> I do find that I have to reset the options every time I launch the program
> (e.g. set it to backup, high speed transfer, etc.).

    This was a bug fixed in one of the v1.1 betas.  I released v1.1 beta 12
last night - you can download it from:

        http://yaztromo.idirect.com/java-pilot-dev.html

    v1.1 gets rid of the "High speed transfer" (which is 19.2kbps), and
allows you to select a bps rate, from 9600 up to 115.2kbps, so you can
get even faser synchronizations.  v1.1 also fixes alot of bugs, improves
alot of functionality, and adds a bunch of new features :).

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                               17-Nov-99 13:31:09
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 16:33:03
Subj: Re: Palm Pilot

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
> Hmmh, most PIMs (at least with os/2) use a db3 or db5
> file-format. IRCC, someone has already developed a java-class to
> access dbase files. Would't that be esier?

    I hadn't heard about such a class - and yes, using it would be easier
for applications which support this sort of database format.  However,
being able to read/write the data in the PIM's native format (or
something it can import/export) is only part of the job in creating a
jConduit - the really tricky part is in the actual synchronization
logic.

    However, as a first step someone could use such a dbase class to allow
for import/export of whole address books and date books etc., and the
add synchronization logic later to handle how new, modified and deleted
records are synchronized.

    If you know where this dbase class is available, please let me know :).

Brad BARCLAY

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E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     17-Nov-99 18:33:16
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 16:33:03
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:07:33, [e-mail] (Csaba Raduly)
wrote:

> Isn't the font palette limited to eight entries ?
>
> Csaba
> --

It will only display 8 at one time, but you could have thousands of
fonts installed behind the display. Clicking Edit Font allows you to
select which font (and the size) to display, in the selected
posistion, from all of the installed fonts. All of the installed fonts
will be available to any program that supports changing fonts.

Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: [e-mail]                                  17-Nov-99 17:42:04
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 16:33:03
Subj: Re: AWE64 Value soundcard

From: [e-mail] (Stan Goodman)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:57:04, [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley) wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:01:44, [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:
>
> > The last soundcard that I actually got to work was a AWE32 Value. partly
> > because I wish to have a card that supports full-duplex operation, I am
> > thinking of purchasing the AWE64 Value. But this card is not listed in the

> > Selective Install soundcard list. Is there a way to support it under
> > Warp4/FP10?
> >
>
> There are a set of the beta drivers that came out of Creative Labs
> just before they stopped supporting OS/2. The drivers work
> fairly well (at least on the machine I had an AWE64 card in),
> however, they do not support full duplex operation for the
> card. (I've heard alleged quotes of specious claims from
> Creative that OS/2 does not support full duplex sound).
>
> If you want to have full duplex sound, you will have to
> abandon the idea of using any Creative sound card
> (unless you want to write a driver) and get something
> like one of the Crystal Audio chipset cards or the
> ESS chipset cards.

You have convinced me. But, as I explain in a posting on the c.o.o.apps
group, I have been unable to install the TidalWave128 (Crystal chipset) ISA
card in my system; I would not be surprised if it is not compatible with my
MB (Supermicro P6SBA), since the card was tested before it was shipped to
me, and even LOTS of help from the chipset designers has not gotten the
thing to work. They do say that PCI cards are available using the chipset,
and that these are easier to configure (which means, I hope, that the MB
may tolerate them). Crystal Computer, the mfr of the TidalWave, doesn't
make a PCI version, but I assume I can find a similar card.

-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net                     17-Nov-99 18:33:18
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 16:33:03
Subj: Re: AWE64 Value soundcard

From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 15:01:44, [e-mail] (Stan Goodman) wrote:

> The last soundcard that I actually got to work was a AWE32 Value. partly
> because I wish to have a card that supports full-duplex operation, I am
> thinking of purchasing the AWE64 Value. But this card is not listed in the
> Selective Install soundcard list. Is there a way to support it under
> Warp4/FP10?
>
> -------------
> Stan Goodman
> Qiryat Tiv'on
> Israel
>
> E-mail sent to [e-mail] will, of course, not reach me. Sorry.
> Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.

The card might support full duplex, but Creative Labs quit supporting
OS/2 long ago. It is possible to make (at least some) AWE64 cards
work, but it would be in the same mode that your AWE32 works in (same
driver AFAIK).

Save yourself a lot of money, and agravation, and get something that
has OS/2 support. I suggest something with the Crystal chipset (I have
used the AOpen AW35Pro, and a couple of AW37 cards, with excellent
results -> IMO the sound is even better than an AWE64 under windows as
well).

The drivers for the Crystal chipset are at:
http://www.cirrus.com/drivers/audiodrv/

Hope this helps...
******************************
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doug.bissett at attglobal.net
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From: [e-mail]                                17-Nov-99 13:14:16
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 16:33:03
Subj: Re: Startup Folder Problem

From: Kenneth Kahn <[e-mail]>

Chuck McKinnis wrote:

> Do you have this in your config.sys?
>
> SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > I'm stumped on this one.  Programs in my startup folder are not starting.

That would start *ONLY* things in his startup folder, not prevent them from
starting.  What would prevent everything from starting is

  SET RESTARTOBJECTS=NONE

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
Internet : [e-mail]
   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
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From: [e-mail]                                  17-Nov-99 18:23:22
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 16:33:03
Subj: Association

From: [e-mail] (Carl S. Hayes)

I got this little problem . . . maybe someone could point me in
the right direction.

I'm trying to associate *.htm & *.html files with Netscape.  They,
for what ever reason, are associated with WebExplorer.  I open
the WE properties and look at Association . . . none.

I got to the properties of Netscape and goto the Association Tab,
enter both the Current HTML by selecting from the Add  button
from the list of available types.

Then just to make sure, I go to the New area below and put in
*.htm and press the Add button, then *.html and the Add button
so the I end up with:

HTML

*.htm
*.html

Then close the Properties window.  Double click on any document
with either .htm or .html and I either get WebExplorer or the OS/2
System Editor (E.EXE).

My question is how do I associate ALL *.htm or *.html documents
with Netscape.  So that when I double click on them Netscape will
come up???  (as an example when one is attached to an email)

Thanks in advance for any info you might provide.

Carl


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From: [e-mail]                 17-Nov-99 13:36:02
  To: All                                               17-Nov-99 16:33:03
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: mark davidson <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:06:21 -0500, [e-mail] (Dan Casey) wrote:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>[e-mail] (mark davidson) wrote:
>>i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
>>and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.  type of cpu isn't important as
>>long as it meets the 2 objectives.  any recommendations will be
>>appreciated.

>Unfortunatley, the type of processor DOES matter. For Socket 7
>(Pentium, AMD K6, K6-2, and Cyrix), the only Intel chipset that would
>cache more than 64 Mb of RAM was the old HX, which is no longer
>produced, and only available on very outdated mainboards.

understood ... what i meant is that the type of cpu doesn't matter to
me in terms of upgrading.  i've used socket 7 exclusively in the past
but am more than willing to switch if the new cpu type/mainboard meets
the 2 requirements.

thanks/regards, .. mark davidson


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From: [e-mail]                              17-Nov-99 20:01:11
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 14:35:21
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Csaba Raduly wrote:
>
> Isn't the font palette limited to eight entries ?
>
    Only in the drag-n-drop window. The actual number of fonts that can
be installed is effectively infinite. The more fonts installed, the more
RAM that is used (and disk space, of course).

--

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From: [e-mail]                         17-Nov-99 09:34:17
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 14:35:21
Subj: Re: cdrecord 1.8a31 and yamaha 4416

From: "Arjen Meijer" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:04:08 -0500 (EST), dinkmeister wrote:

Yes, same results.

Arjen

:>did you try it without blank=all?
:>
:>- dink
:>
:>
:>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:54:01 +0200 (CET), Arjen Meijer wrote:
:>
:>>I try to burn a image of 240 MB to a cdrw. However, I get a error:
:>>cdrecord: I/O error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
:>>CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
:>>status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
:>>What goes wrong?


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From: [e-mail]                             17-Nov-99 11:52:17
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 14:35:21
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


Dan Casey wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail] (mark davidson) wrote:
> >i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
> >and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.  type of cpu isn't important as
> >long as it meets the 2 objectives.  any recommendations will be
> >appreciated.
> >
> >thanks/regards, .. mark davidson
>
> Unfortunatley, the type of processor DOES matter. For Socket 7
> (Pentium, AMD K6, K6-2, and Cyrix), the only Intel chipset that would
> cache more than 64 Mb of RAM was the old HX, which is no longer
> produced, and only available on very outdated mainboards.
>
> VIA and SiS chipsets will cache more than 64 Mb of RAM, and work well
> with OS/2, provided you use Dani's IDE Drivers (DANIS506.ADD from
> Hobbes).
>
> Pentium III Mainboards with Intel chipsets will cache more than 64 Mb
> of Ram.
>
> Athlon (AMD K7 processors) need a patch to the OS2LDR file, also from
> Dani, and also available at hobbes, in order for OS/2 to even see more
> than 64 Mb of RAM in the system. Once that patch is applied, all of
> the ram should be recognized. I say *should* because the patch has
> only been available for about 5 days, and all reports have been
> positive, so far.

Note that this patch is not required if you use the ASUS K7M Athlon
motherboard.



>
> In short, the Socket 7 mainboards are the only ones with limitations
> on the amount of RAM that can be cached, so processor type does make a
> difference.
>
> --
> **************************************************************
> *  Dan Casey                                                 *
> *  President                                                 *
> *  V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education *
> *  http://www.os2voice.org                                   *
> *  Abraxas on IRC                                            *
> *  http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey                         *
> *  Charter Associate member, Team SETI                       *
> *  Warpstock 99 in Atlanta  http://www.warpstock.org         *
> **************************************************************
> *  E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key             *
> **************************************************************

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 19:15:26
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 14:35:21
Subj: Re: Please Help. Warp 3 and fixpak 40

From: [e-mail]

I have OS/2 Warp 3.0 and recently installed FP 40.

Everything seemed to be OK but now when I boot up OS/2, it doesn't seem
to read the CONFIG.SYS file, so it doesn't have the memory it used to and
the LINKUP.EXE file didn't want to work.

When I opened a OS/2 window and typed PATH, it didn't show anything in the
path!

Could anyone tell me why it doesn't recognize the config file anymore & how to
fix it (without having to write in a full path in each application's
settings)?

Thanks!

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From: [e-mail]                 17-Nov-99 14:53:09
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 14:35:21
Subj: Re: Association

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (Carl S. Hayes) wrote:

...
>My question is how do I associate ALL *.htm or *.html documents
>with Netscape.  So that when I double click on them Netscape will
>come up???  (as an example when one is attached to an email)
>
>Thanks in advance for any info you might provide.
>
>Carl
>

Short answer:  Go to Henk Kelder's page at the OS/2
Supersite:

   http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder

then download his Association Editor for OS/2 and install
it.  This is the best way to handle your situation.  When
you start it up you'll find a way to change the *default*
program association.

--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com

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From: [e-mail]                              17-Nov-99 20:04:01
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 14:35:21
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


Mark Schlegel wrote:
>
>
> You misunderstood him, he doesn't mean the SRAM cache
> is 64MB, but that the cache is caching a system DRAM
> that is > 64MB, the SRAM cache doing that is a lot smaller..
> probably more like 512 KB.
>
    Urk! Quite so.

--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove "spam-not." for email

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 20:53:19
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 14:35:21
Subj: Re: ATX motherboards

From: [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:17:26, [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)
wrote:

> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >Do the latest fixpacks make OS/2 support ATX motherboards?
>
> I have multiple boxes here with ATX mommyboards, and two of them have
> run OS/2 just fine (this one is now!).  But I suspect you're interested
> in something more specific...?

I'm refering to the power off when the OS shuts down.

Edmond Dantes
phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com

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From: [e-mail]                                 17-Nov-99 20:54:19
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 14:35:21
Subj: Can't get MIDI with my new sound blaster

From: [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:27:41, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes) wrote:

> I Just got an ISP Soundblaster 32 AWE PnP.  The drivers from Device
> Driver Online
> site worked for wave audio but the MIDI doesn't.  Here's my
> CONFIG.SYS:

Oops, make that an ISA...
>
> SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1
> IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:1024 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:CEFG
> SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY
> PROTSHELL=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
> SET USER_INI=C:\OS2\OS2.INI
> SET SYSTEM_INI=C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
> SET OS2_SHELL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
> SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS,WARPCENTER
> SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
> SET COMSPEC=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
> LIBPATH=.;C:\OS2\DLL;C:\MPTN\DLL;C:\IBMCOM\DLL;C:\IBMI18N\DLL;C:\OS2\M
> DOS;C:\;C:\OS2\APPS\DLL;C:\JAVA11\DLL;C:\MMOS2\DLL;C:\IBMINST;c:\tcpip
> \dll;c:\tcpip\pcomos2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\EMX\DLL;E:\EPM6\DLL;E:\CWORKS;
> C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DLL;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON;E:\EPM6\EPM_SPEL;E:\N
> S_461\PROGRAM;E:\NS_202;E:\EMBLSH;e:\wamp_b4;E:\Office51
> SET
> PATH=C:\MPTN\BIN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;C:\
> OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\JAVA11\BIN;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpi
> p\bin;c:\tcpip\pcomos2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\EMX\BIN;E:\NS_461\PROGRAM;E:\
> NS_202;E:\EPM6;E:\MARKSSCRIPTS;E:\MARKSPROGS;e:\maplay;E:\CWORKS;e:\le
> ech120;e:\bladeenc2_082;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\BIN;E:\EMBLSH;e:\wamp_b4;E:
> \Office51
> SET
> DPATH=C:\MPTN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;C:\OS2
> \INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\BITMAP;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\MMOS2;C:\MMOS2\I
> NSTALL;C:\IBMINST;C:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;
> SET PROMPT=$i[$p]
> SET
> HELP=E:\NS_202;C:\MPTN;C:\OS2\HELP;C:\MMOS2\HELP;c:\tcpip\help;C:\TCPI
> P\UMAIL;E:\CWORKS;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;E:\EMBLSH;
> SET GLOSSARY=C:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS;
> SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS
> PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES
> FILES=20
> BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS
> basedev=ibmatapi.flt
> DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM /S
> DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS
> BUFFERS=90
> IOPL=YES
> DISKCACHE=D,LW
> MAXWAIT=3
> MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT
> SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 2048
> BREAK=OFF
> THREADS=1024
> PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134
> COUNTRY=001,C:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS
> SET KEYS=ON
> SET BOOKSHELF=C:\OS2\BOOK;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpip\help;f:\books;
> SET
> SOMIR=C:\OS2\ETC\SOM.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPSH.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPDSERV.IR;C:\OS
> 2\ETC\REXX.IR
> SET SOMDDIR=C:\OS2\ETC\DSOM
> SET ULSPATH=C:\LANGUAGE;
> SET LOCPATH=C:\IBMI18N\LOCALE;C:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE;
> BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS
> REM SET
> DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;E:\DELETE,512;F:\DELETE,512;G:\DELE
> TE,512;
> BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS
> BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD
> BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD
> BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
> BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT
> BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD
> SET EPMPATH=E:\EPM6;E:\EPM6\MAC;E:\EPM6\MARKS;E:\EPM6\MAC\MARKS;
> PROTECTONLY=NO
> SHELL=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS
> FCBS=16,8
> RMSIZE=640
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS
> DOS=LOW,NOUMB
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VW32S.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\APM.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VAPM.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q
> IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS
> BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS
> SET LANG=EN_US
> SET TZ=est5edt
> CODEPAGE=437,850
> DEVINFO=KBD,US,C:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP
> DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,C:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP
> SET VIO_VGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA)
> SET DMIPATH=C:\DMISL\BIN
> RUN=C:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
> SET
> CLASSPATH=.\.;E:\NS_202\njclass.zip;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON\JAVAPROB
> .ZIP;
> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SBAWED2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:5 /A:220 /M:330
> /N:SBAUD1$ /P
> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$
> SET MMBASE=C:\MMOS2;
> SET DSPPATH=C:\MMOS2\DSP;
> SET NCDEBUG=4000
> RUN=C:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE
> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\VCSHDD.SYS
> RUN=C:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE
> CALL=C:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE
> RUN=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE
> SET
> NLSPATH=c:\tcpip\msg\%L\%N;C:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;c:\tcpip\msg\enus850\%N;
> SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC
> DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\MACS\EL90X.OS2
> SET I18NDIR=C:\IBMI18N
> SET TMP=c:\tcpip\tmp
> SET HOSTNAME=cx342824-a
> DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.vdd
> DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.sys
> RUN=c:\tcpip\bin\VDOSCTL.EXE
> DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\IFNDIS.SYS
> RUN=C:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE
> CALL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C C:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL
> SET PROGDRIVE=E
> SET DATADRIVE=F
> SET BACKGROUNDDIR=F:\DESKPICS
> SET FOLDPICDIR=F:\FOLDPICS
> SET INCLUDE=C:\JAVA11\INCLUDE;C:\JAVA11\INCLUDE\OS2;
> SET LIB=C:\JAVA11\LIB;
> REM **************TIN
> SET USER=phydeaux
> SET NNTPSERVER=news.dt1.sdca.home.com
> SET HOME=f:\edantes
> DEVICE=C:\MGA\OS2\KMGAX64.SYS
> SET MGA=C:\MGA\OS2
> SET VIO_MGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BMGAX64)
> SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_MGA
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS
> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMGAX64.SYS
>
> Please Help.
>
>
> Edmond Dantes
> phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com


Edmond Dantes
phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com

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From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]                            17-Nov-99 15:59:16
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: Palm Pilot

From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1]

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/17/99
   at 01:34 PM, Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]> said:

>This was a bug fixed in one of the v1.1 betas.  I released v1.1 beta 12
>last night - you can download it from:

>        http://yaztromo.idirect.com/java-pilot-dev.html

>    v1.1 gets rid of the "High speed transfer" (which is 19.2kbps), and
>allows you to select a bps rate, from 9600 up to 115.2kbps, so you can get
>even faser synchronizations.  v1.1 also fixes alot of bugs, improves alot
>of functionality, and adds a bunch of new features :).

Brad,

Do I need to do anything special to upgrade, like reboot?

I basically copied the new jsyncman.jar over the old one, and I now get
this error message:

***No Serial Port Handler Found!!!

For more information on serial port handlers, and links for downloading,
please visit the jSyncManager homepage at:

                  http://yaztromo.idirect.com/java-pilot.html

Note:  this error is also generated if you select "Cancel" from the
       COM port selection dialog the first time you run the program. Press
"Ok" to exit.

--
GK

FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com
OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12
There are 30 Processes with 119 Threads.
This machine's uptime is 4d 7h 16m 5s 164ms.


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From: [e-mail]                          17-Nov-99 21:31:00
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: [e-mail] (e-frog)

Richard Steiner ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Sam <[e-mail]> spake unto us, saying:

: >Has anyone tryed this combo...I have tryed just booting, and it doesn't
: >work....I really want it to work...any suggestions?

: I understand support for running OS/2 in a VMWare virtual machine is
: being worked on, but so far the VMWare folks haven't announced support
: for OS/2.  I'd ask them about it.  Add your name to the list.  :-)

Did they respond at all to the poll?
IMHO, running OS/2 or Linux, etc. being supported as a CLIENT is really
dumb.

I mean, for OS/2 or Linux, the "killer app" is the OS. If you have already
chosen WinXX as your HOST OS, _why_ anyone would want to boot OS/2 or
Linux in a VMWare client session is a bit beyond me. (Maybe someone can
enlighten me here...)

They've got everything backwards. The power users want a stable OS, such
as Linux, BeOS or OS/2 or whatever, and then need to run the occasional
WinXX app in in a client session to communicate with the rest of the
world.


Isaac

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From: [e-mail]                           18-Nov-99 08:34:19
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/17/99
   at 08:23 AM, "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]> said:

>On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:08:27 +0900, Wayne Bickell wrote:

>:>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 20:48:33 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:
>:>
>:>:>I don't know if your phone lines are the same as ours here (Aus) but I
>:>:>have a USR V Everything (X2) and Injoy and my strings are a bit
different-
>:>:> AT&F
>:>:>
>:>:> AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2
>:>:>
>:>:>I don't get any errors, (so far anyhow) and I have been running this for
>:>:>about a year now. Maybe it will work on yours too.
>:>:>
>:>:>Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
>:>:>([e-mail])

>I'm using this string right now. I'm still connected at 49333 but
>something is deifferent!!!! Web pages are loading mucho faster!!!

>Are we getting somewhere? :-)

>Cheers

>Wayne

This string:-
    AT&F
    AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2
originated with the basic two strings from IBM which came with the first
Internet dialler program. I have changed it over time adding particularly
S register changes. From memory I think that S10=250 prevents an ISP from
easily terminating your connection.These have been tried out here by
different members of the Melbourne PCUsers OS/2 group and so the original
authorship is not clear to me at all! But they work well here. I am not a
'specialist' on modem strings though, and I'm sure there are some more
qualified people around the news groups. Glad it improved things anyhow.

There is stil one more thing for me to fix though. For some reason, and I
can't remember quite when it started to happen, when Injoy close my modem
stays on HS ie the high speed LED stays on, and Faxworks can't acquire the
port. I have to switch the modem off and then on again to turn this
setting off. There is probably a string change that I need to make to fix
this, but its not done yet. I'd be interested to know if any of those who
try this string get the same problem. Injoy's documentation includes a fix
for this using a Faxworks rexx script, but I tried this and it didn't work
for me. I'd like to hear anyone's experiences.
Richard

Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                                  17-Nov-99 22:12:27
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: Association

From: [e-mail] (Carl S. Hayes)

Thanks I'll take a look!  Really appreciate it!

Carl

In message <[e-mail]> -
[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
:>
:>[e-mail] (Carl S. Hayes) wrote:
:>
:>....
:>>My question is how do I associate ALL *.htm or *.html documents
:>>with Netscape.  So that when I double click on them Netscape will
:>>come up???  (as an example when one is attached to an email)
:>>
:>>Thanks in advance for any info you might provide.
:>>
:>>Carl
:>>
:>
:>Short answer:  Go to Henk Kelder's page at the OS/2
:>Supersite:
:>
:>   http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder
:>
:>then download his Association Editor for OS/2 and install
:>it.  This is the best way to handle your situation.  When
:>you start it up you'll find a way to change the *default*
:>program association.
:>
:>--
:>Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
:>readme@ http://www.ray-field.com




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From: [e-mail]                           17-Nov-99 22:17:10
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: [e-mail] (John Varela)

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:21:58, "Annie K." <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> [Posted and mailed]
>
> On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 08:06:29 GMT, Wayne Bickell wrote:
>
> :I've just got a USR v.everything modem but cannot establish a good
> :connection with Warp 4, in fact my best speed is with BeOS. I can't
> :get PMINews to get new articles or browse with Netscape. It was
> :OK this morning with my 33,600 bps modem! Can somebody help me
> :with a GOOD init string?
>
>  I find AT&F1 to be sufficient.

All I use is ATL0, which just quiets the modem speaker leaving
everything else at the defaults.  I log on at 53.3 almost every time.
In-Joy or iLink/2, it doesn't matter.  I do use SIO.

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: [e-mail]                          18-Nov-99 00:40:08
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: True Type Fonts in Warp 4?  HOW???

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:07:33, [e-mail] (Csaba Raduly) a ┌crit
dans un message:
> [snip]
> >> Font Pallette -> Edit Font -> Add  ..... and then select the fonts
> >> from the source.
> >>
>
> Isn't the font palette limited to eight entries ?

Each Font Palette is, but you can create as many more Font Palettes objects
as you want, and any of them will access the complete list of Installed
Fonts via the
Edit Font | Add dialog.

Not many applications accept dragged fonts very well for anything other
than the appearance of control buttons and menus, but I'm happy to say that
DeScribe is one of the best. It's really easy to create a Font Palette
customized for a particular document style, say, "Monthly Newsletter", and
keep it in a "Work Area" folder along with the template for that document
style, so that the "Newsletter Fonts Palette" opens when you start work on
your Newsletter. You can then make use of the Font Palette's ability to
drag fonts along with point size and extra attributes like Underline, and
any text that is hilited will instantly change to display the newly
assigned font.


--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]...               17-Nov-99 23:30:19
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Rod Smith)

In article <80v6qk$gva$[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (e-frog) writes:
> Richard Steiner ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Sam <[e-mail]> spake unto us, saying:
>
>: >Has anyone tryed this combo...I have tryed just booting, and it doesn't
>: >work....I really want it to work...any suggestions?
>
>: I understand support for running OS/2 in a VMWare virtual machine is
>: being worked on, but so far the VMWare folks haven't announced support
>: for OS/2.  I'd ask them about it.  Add your name to the list.  :-)
>
> Did they respond at all to the poll?
> IMHO, running OS/2 or Linux, etc. being supported as a CLIENT is really
> dumb.
>
> I mean, for OS/2 or Linux, the "killer app" is the OS. If you have already
> chosen WinXX as your HOST OS, _why_ anyone would want to boot OS/2 or
> Linux in a VMWare client session is a bit beyond me. (Maybe someone can
> enlighten me here...)

1) You're booted into Linux and want to run an OS/2 program without
   rebooting.
2) You want to test a new Linux distribution (I just installed Corel Linux
   in VMware, for instance).

> They've got everything backwards. The power users want a stable OS, such
> as Linux, BeOS or OS/2 or whatever, and then need to run the occasional
> WinXX app in in a client session to communicate with the rest of the
> world.

VMware is available for Linux (but not OS/2, AFAIK). You can therefore do
it as you suggest. You can also run Linux in Linux, if you like. If
VMware supported it, you could run BeOS or OS/2 in Linux. Even running a
stable OS from Windows makes some sort of sense if you're not sure you
want to commit to Linux-OS/2-BeOS-whatever -- just set up a VMware
session and test it (except of course that OS/2 and BeOS aren't yet
supported under VMware). That approach requires no repartitioning, and if
you don't like the new OS, there's no need to restore your original
partitioning setup -- just delete the VMware virtual disk.

Now, this sort of thing may sound pretty bizarre and esoteric -- but then,
so's VMware.

--
Rod Smith       [e-mail]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que

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From: [e-mail]                               17-Nov-99 16:05:21
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: Startup Folder Problem

From: [e-mail]

Kenneth Kahn <[e-mail]> said:

>Chuck McKinnis wrote:

>> Do you have this in your config.sys?
>>
>> SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY

Thank you fellows.  -- Its been so long since I've had a problem with OS2,
that I've forgotten how to fix it when something does go wrong.

Somehow I deleted the statement to restart the startup folder and never
thought to check it.


>>
>> [e-mail] wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm stumped on this one.  Programs in my startup folder are not starting.

>That would start *ONLY* things in his startup folder, not prevent them
>from starting.  What would prevent everything from starting is

>  SET RESTARTOBJECTS=NONE


_____________
Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                          18-Nov-99 08:43:09
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 08:34:38 +1000, [e-mail] wrote:

:>There is stil one more thing for me to fix though. For some reason, and I
:>can't remember quite when it started to happen, when Injoy close my modem
:>stays on HS ie the high speed LED stays on, and Faxworks can't acquire the
:>port. I have to switch the modem off and then on again to turn this
:>setting off. There is probably a string change that I need to make to fix
:>this, but its not done yet. I'd be interested to know if any of those who
:>try this string get the same problem. Injoy's documentation includes a fix
:>for this using a Faxworks rexx script, but I tried this and it didn't work
:>for me. I'd like to hear anyone's experiences.
:>Richard

Hi,

I just noticed that my HS light was on so I fired up FaxWorks and began
to send a test fax. Faxworks acquired the modem OK so I cancelled
the job. Now the HS light is out.

Cheers

Wayne

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From: [e-mail]                          18-Nov-99 08:39:19
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:56:20 -0800, Pat Pridgen wrote:

:>try doing an at$ at a command prompt. I'm guessing your Courier will
:>respond the same as the two sportsters that I've owned. It'll give you a
:>break down of the at commands, and more commands for the S registers and
:>the & ampersand commands.

[C:\]at$
SYS1041: The name at$ is not recognized as an
internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

I'm obviously missing something here :-)

Cheers

Wayne


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From: [e-mail]                          18-Nov-99 08:07:11
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: ATX motherboards

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

XFolder supports auto-power off with ATX boards.

Cheers

Wayne


On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:53:38 GMT, Edmond Dantes wrote:

:>On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:17:26, [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)
:>wrote:
:>
:>> Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)
:>> spake unto us, saying:
:>>
:>> >Do the latest fixpacks make OS/2 support ATX motherboards?
:>>
:>> I have multiple boxes here with ATX mommyboards, and two of them have
:>> run OS/2 just fine (this one is now!).  But I suspect you're interested
:>> in something more specific...?
:>
:>I'm refering to the power off when the OS shuts down.
:>
:>Edmond Dantes
:>phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com

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From: [e-mail]                                17-Nov-99 18:02:07
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Memory Leak & System Freeze

From: John M Price PhD <[e-mail]>

In comp.os.os2.apps article <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] wrote:
: Alan,
: The easiest thing to try is to go into the preferences and set all your
CACHE to 0.
: If this fixes the problem, then get SCACHE. It is easy to install and a lot
quicker.

From where?  What is the URL for that?


--
John M. Price, PhD                                     [e-mail]
Life: Chemistry, but with feeling!      |      PGP Key on request or FTP!
  Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion.
Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated          Atheist# 683
                     Syndicate Section III - Number 1

The ancient Poets animated all sensible objects with Gods of Geniuses,
calling them by the names and adorning them with the properties of
woods, rivers, mountains, lakes, cities, nations, and whatever their
enlarged & numerous senses could perceive. And particularly they
studied the genius of each city & country, placing it under its mental
deity. Till a system was formed, which some took advantage of and
enslav'd the vulgar by attempting to realize or abstract the mental
deities from their objects; thus began Priesthood. Choosing forms of
worship from poetic tales. And at length they pronounc'd that the Gods
had order'd such things. Thus men forgot that all deities reside in
the human breast.
    - William Blake  "The Marriage Of Heaven And Hell"

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From: [e-mail]                  17-Nov-99 19:14:22
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 11/18/99

   at 08:39 AM, "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]> said:

|>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:56:20 -0800, Pat Pridgen wrote:

|>:>try doing an at$ at a command prompt. I'm guessing your Courier will
|>:>respond the same as the two sportsters that I've owned. It'll give you a
|>:>break down of the at commands, and more commands for the S registers and
|>:>the & ampersand commands.

|>[C:\]at$
|>SYS1041: The name at$ is not recognized as an
|>internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

|>I'm obviously missing something here :-)

well a terminal window in a comm program or injoy would be a better
place to enter an AT command.

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From: [e-mail]                          18-Nov-99 09:58:25
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:23:22 +0900, Wayne Bickell wrote:

:>:>:>I don't know if your phone lines are the same as ours here (Aus) but I
:>:>:>have a USR V Everything (X2) and Injoy and my strings are a bit
different-
:>:>:> AT&F
:>:>:>
:>:>:> AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2
:>:>:>
:>:>:>I don't get any errors, (so far anyhow) and I have been running this for
:>:>:>about a year now. Maybe it will work on yours too.
:>:>:>
:>:>:>Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
:>:>:>([e-mail])
:>
:>I'm using this string right now. I'm still connected at 49333
:>but something is deifferent!!!! Web pages are loading
:>mucho faster!!!
:>
:>Are we getting somewhere? :-)

Sigh, apparantly we aren't getting anywhere... fast!

I just tried a small experiment downloading an FTP file
in Warp and BeOS. The only time delay was booting
between OS/2 and BeOS (Twice,  just to make sure)
On average I was getting 5.1kbytes/second in Be and
1.6 kbytes/second in Warp. This was at the same
connect speed of 49333. I can only assume (Since I
have fcs checking off in Injoy) that the fcs errors were
slowing down the download.

Using Be to surf the web and download files makes
using OS/2 a bit pointless! I would *rather* use OS/2
though since it was an OS/2 file I was downloading :-)

Cheers

Wayne

PS. I was using Netscape 2.02 in Warp and NetPositive
in Be.



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From: [e-mail]                                     17-Nov-99 20:53:11
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: "Richard W. Budd" <[e-mail]>


<snip>
> IMHO, running OS/2 or Linux, etc. being supported as a CLIENT is really
> dumb.
>
> I mean, for OS/2 or Linux, the "killer app" is the OS. If you have already
> chosen WinXX as your HOST OS, _why_ anyone would want to boot OS/2 or
> Linux in a VMWare client session is a bit beyond me. (Maybe someone can
> enlighten me here...)
>
<snip> Isaac

For me the question is painless migration to a new OS. I've ran OS/2
since v2.0 and have literaly tens of thousands of data files (and tons
of great apps). It's amazing how much faster it is than W98 and it's far
easier to use and customize than *any* MS OS. But... With IBM's (very)
slow abandonment of OS/2 I need a new OS that will let me access my old
apps/files while slowly converting to the new.

 Linux is what I have my eye on -- provided VMware or someone like them
can seamlessly support my old apps. In otherwords, let me launch OS/2
apps from Linux as easily I now launch under OS/2 the (very) few Windoze
programs and #1 dos app (Autocad) I have.

Cheers,
Richard W. Budd
Sr. Engineer
Synchron Laser Service

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From: [e-mail]                          18-Nov-99 11:00:23
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: USR modem

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

Thanks

Cheers

Wayne

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 19:14:44 -0600, [e-mail] wrote:

:>In <[e-mail]>, on 11/18/99
:>
:>   at 08:39 AM, "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]> said:
:>
:>|>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:56:20 -0800, Pat Pridgen wrote:
:>
:>|>:>try doing an at$ at a command prompt. I'm guessing your Courier will
:>|>:>respond the same as the two sportsters that I've owned. It'll give you a
:>|>:>break down of the at commands, and more commands for the S registers and
:>|>:>the & ampersand commands.
:>
:>|>[C:\]at$
:>|>SYS1041: The name at$ is not recognized as an
:>|>internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
:>
:>|>I'm obviously missing something here :-)
:>
:>well a terminal window in a comm program or injoy would be a better
:>place to enter an AT command.

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From: [e-mail]                           17-Nov-99 18:28:14
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: Internet Junkbusters

From: Ken anderson <[e-mail]>

My mistake. I incorrectly setup EMX. Once I fixed that, everything works fine.
Thanks for the help.

Ken

Chuck McKinnis wrote:

> Which version?  My 1.16 build seems to keep on working, but I have yet
> to get 1.17 going (I think 1.16 = 2.0.1 and 1.17 = 2.0.2 for OS/2).
>
> Ken Anderson wrote:
> >
> > Has anybody had any problems getting this to work under OS/2?  I
> > installed EMX and rebooted. Then I ran the install.cmd for junkbusters
> > and it created the desktop icon but when I click it I get the properties
> > menu only. Any ideas?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Ken
>
> --
> Chuck McKinnis
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
> IBM Business Partner
> IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                      18-Nov-99 03:31:08
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

e-frog [ITServices, University of British Columbia] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» Did they respond at all to the poll?

I have no idea.

» IMHO, running OS/2 or Linux, etc. being supported as a CLIENT is really
» dumb.

Why?

I know Linux users who can try a new test compile of Linux at the same time
they are running their normal one for example.

» I mean, for OS/2 or Linux, the "killer app" is the OS. If you have already

For OS/2 it's (IMO) the WPS and the nice object orientation to the GUI, and
not the kernel who (IMO again) strongly lagging both in stability and support
for modern hardware. This especially when it comes to the client version who
only (at least after 2.11) only supports one CPU, and as VMware is rather CPU
intensive (they emulate almost the whole PC, including a lot of low level
registers on the CPU) they themselves strongly recommend a dual processor
machine for best performance if you want to run other things at the same time.

» chosen WinXX as your HOST OS, _why_ anyone would want to boot OS/2 or

It's not Win XX (as in 95 or 98). It's AFAIK know only running on NT and
Linux.

» Linux in a VMWare client session is a bit beyond me. (Maybe someone can
» enlighten me here...)

Strange that you don't get it. But Ok - I will try at least.

I personally find it great to be able to run another NT system within the NT
system. Great for testing new device drivers without needing to take down and
reboot the whole system (and to test other low level things you don't want to
disturb your main system with).

The same goes (as said above) for some Linux users I know.

» They've got everything backwards. The power users want a stable OS, such

Nope.

» as Linux, BeOS or OS/2 or whatever, and then need to run the occasional

NT is (IMO and many others) a factor 10x more stable than OS/2. The same goes
for Linux. They are two both very stable system who can host such a thing
without any problem.

» WinXX app in in a client session to communicate with the rest of the
» world.

I don't think it's such useful to run normal applications as it's (IMO) way
too slow for that. It's (as said above) however great for testing purposes and
software development (which really can benefit from 100% virtual machines).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

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:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
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From: [e-mail]                              18-Nov-99 02:32:11
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: Association

From: James Moe <[e-mail]>


"Carl S. Hayes" wrote:
>
> I got this little problem . . . maybe someone could point me in
> the right direction.
>
> I'm trying to associate *.htm & *.html files with Netscape.  They,
> for what ever reason, are associated with WebExplorer.  I open
> the WE properties and look at Association . . . none.
>
    A rather brutish, but effective,  way is to re-install Netscape and
answer "Yes" to the questions about associating Netsacpe with HTM*.

--

sma at rtd dot com
Remove ".spam-not" for email

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From: [e-mail]                    18-Nov-99 02:34:13
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Rod Smith ([e-mail]) wrote:

: VMware is available for Linux (but not OS/2, AFAIK). You can therefore do
: it as you suggest. You can also run Linux in Linux, if you like. If
: VMware supported it, you could run BeOS or OS/2 in Linux. Even running a
: stable OS from Windows makes some sort of sense if you're not sure you
: want to commit to Linux-OS/2-BeOS-whatever -- just set up a VMware
: session and test it (except of course that OS/2 and BeOS aren't yet
: supported under VMware). That approach requires no repartitioning, and if
: you don't like the new OS, there's no need to restore your original
: partitioning setup -- just delete the VMware virtual disk.

    With Bochs one of the reasons they gave for its importance was
especially developer related.  That it is easier to debug in an virtual
enviornment than a real one since if a crash happened, you are out of
luck.  If a crash occurred to the VMWare or Bochs session, it would exit
via an error, big deal.  Not to mention would probably be able to setup
in order to leave some info as well.  Virtualization of hardware is
definately more important than just a gimmick to run more
programs/operating systems.

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From: [e-mail]                                18-Nov-99 02:41:04
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:12
Subj: first look at BEOS

From: [e-mail]






I just finished my first week with Beos.  I must say I was
hoping for more...  I came from the OS/2 WPS area and I have
noticed more and more OS/2 users are having to leave OS/2 (due
to lack of future support from IBM) and are looking for
alternatives.


I tried Linux and FreeBSD but they have rather clunky
multitasking, and have poorly written user interfaces (KDE and
GNOME).  The UI is patterned after Windows and in my opinion it
is just as flawed as the Windows interface is.  I would have
hoped that the UI writers would be able to vastly improve upon
Windows.....  It appears that none of the UI programmers for
KDE, Gnome or BE have ever used the OS/2 WPS.


If only some other operating system writers would at lease look
into incorporating SOM and DSOM into a corba compliant WPS type
of interface.  Millions of OS/2 users would flock to such an
operating system.  BEOS is slightly better than Linux, but not
as good as I was hoping...  Its multitasking is not as fluid as
OS/2, its multimedia video support is not as good as OS/2.. Its
multimedia sound capability is much better than all the rest
including Os/2.  However sound is only a small part of
multimedia.  Video is more important, and I was lead to believe
that Beos was a leader in Video.  Well OS/2 does more video
formats and does it much better than Beos m(at the operating
system level, not at an application level)!  Running two videos
as once tends to tax Beos to the limit.  Whereas I can run three
or four videos in OS/2....  Hmmmmm wouldn't it be great if we
could get IBM to spin off the os2 group as a separate company so
that we could all get updated operating systems that work?

Stability of Beos is a bit better than Windows, but not as
stable as Warp OS/2.  It is about the same as Linux.  I Was able
to lock up a few different apps during the week that required a
hard reboot to clear. The multitasking is a bit clunky as well.
Warp seems to have a best compromise scheduler that allows
multitasking background/foreground apps better than any other
operating system to date.  Pity that some developers seem to
miss out on this aspect of Warp OS/2.  I can only guess that it
is not due to stupidity, but rather that these same developers
are simply not aware of how high the bar has been placed with
Warp OS/2.  If all you have ever used includes Windows and
Linux, then Beos might seem to look good.  However from a long
time user of OS/2Warp,  can say that Beos needs a whole lot more
to even be considered in the same league as Warp.

So the search goes on.  I want to replace Warp Os/2, but so far
nothing is anywhere near as easy to use or as reliable.  too bad
IBM sold out to Microsoft and basically buried OS/2....


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                               17-Nov-99 22:47:02
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: ATX motherboards

From: Duane Chamblee <[e-mail]>

Edmond Dantes wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:17:26, [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)
> wrote:
>
> > Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)
> > spake unto us, saying:
> >
> > >Do the latest fixpacks make OS/2 support ATX motherboards?
> >
> > I have multiple boxes here with ATX mommyboards, and two of them have
> > run OS/2 just fine (this one is now!).  But I suspect you're interested
> > in something more specific...?
>
> I'm refering to the power off when the OS shuts down.

Xshutdown (a part of Xfolder) supports this...

 http://www2.hu-berlin.de/~h0444vnd/xfldr.htm

lots of other stuff too.

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From: [e-mail]                          18-Nov-99 13:47:23
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: Association

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:32:22 GMT, James Moe wrote:

:>
:>
:>"Carl S. Hayes" wrote:
:>>
:>> I got this little problem . . . maybe someone could point me in
:>> the right direction.
:>>
:>> I'm trying to associate *.htm & *.html files with Netscape.  They,
:>> for what ever reason, are associated with WebExplorer.  I open
:>> the WE properties and look at Association . . . none.
:>>
:>    A rather brutish, but effective,  way is to re-install Netscape and
:>answer "Yes" to the questions about associating Netsacpe with HTM*.
:>
:>--
:>
:>sma at rtd dot com
:>Remove ".spam-not" for email

The easiest way is to get Henk Kelder's wonderful utility Association
Editor (assoed21.zip) Then you can associate to your heart's content.

Cheers

Wayne
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From: [e-mail]                     18-Nov-99 05:59:29
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: [e-mail]

In article <q1YzOAtZidbM0gUv=[e-mail]>,
  Remove silverware to reply wrote:

> ╗ Linux in a VMWare client session is a bit beyond me. (Maybe someone
> ╗ can enlighten me here...)
>
> Strange that you don't get it. But Ok - I will try at least.
>
> I personally find it great to be able to run another NT system within
> the NT system. Great for testing new device drivers without needing
> to take down and reboot the whole system (and to test other low level
> things you don't want to disturb your main system with).

This is such BS, and you know it. VMWare emulates, just like BOCH, an
entire system: The CPU, BIOS, video, sound, and network cards...
Everything. So unless you have the exact same devices that VMWare
emulates, then your drivers will fail miserably in the VMWare
enviroment.

See http://www.vmware.com/products/detailedwindows.html or
http://www.vmware.com/products/detailedlinux.html for details on the
system and the devices it emulates...

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |But on the other hand...|
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]               18-Nov-99 01:18:19
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: "Kim Cheung" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:31:16 +0100, Martin Nisshagen wrote:

>NT is (IMO and many others) a factor 10x more stable than OS/2.

You are talking through the form on your mouth.


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From: [e-mail]                             18-Nov-99 07:57:06
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: Latest version of pmmerge.dll

From: [e-mail] (Dave Parsons)

On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:24:17, J. N. Pfisterer <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:00:37 +0100 (CET), Arjen Meijer wrote:
> >Where can I find the latest version of pmmerge.dll?
> >That is, newer than fixpack 12. On testcase?
>
> Hi, Arjen -
>
> It's included in pmr00052.zip that was briefly posted to the IBM
> testcase.boulder.ibm.com site.  I suggest that you contact Ivan
> Adzhubei, [e-mail] and ask if he still has it available
> for FTP.  That's where I got the copy I just installed on my system.
>
> If all else fails, check back with me and I can attach it to an e-mail.
> The ZIP is a little over one meg in size and also includes a newer
> keyboard.dcp.
>
> Jack P.  -  [e-mail]
>
>

Is this the same file as pmmerge.zip which is currently on testcase?

--
Dave

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From: cabanieATlep-philipsDOTfrREMOVE@...               18-Nov-99 08:19:09
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: first look at BEOS

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: "Jean-Pierre Cabani'e" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:41:08 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>I tried Linux and FreeBSD but they have rather clunky
>multitasking, and have poorly written user interfaces (KDE and
>GNOME).  The UI is patterned after Windows and in my opinion it
>is just as flawed as the Windows interface is.  I would have
>hoped that the UI writers would be able to vastly improve upon
>Windows.....  It appears that none of the UI programmers for
>KDE, Gnome or BE have ever used the OS/2 WPS.
>
>
>If only some other operating system writers would at lease look
>into incorporating SOM and DSOM into a corba compliant WPS type
>of interface.  Millions of OS/2 users would flock to such an
>operating system.

In the presentation of the GNOME project, the target is clearly defined :
Deliver an UI modeled after the OS/2 WPS. Achieving a WinSomething clone will
be a failure.
Yes, we, OS/2 users are lacking the WPS everytime we try to switch to another
OS

I think that we could use the fact that as IBM told to the world that it was
commited to Linux, they should make SOM and DSOM available under Linux. As
far as I know, SOM is just plain C code, and then should be portable to
Linux. I'm quite sure that the GNOME people would rely on it to achieve their
goal and we must agree that recreating such a marvel as the WPS without SOM
is almost impossible.

What about a user's group asking IBM to release SOM on Linux ?

Jean-Pierre Cabani'e


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From: [e-mail]                    18-Nov-99 07:31:13
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

[e-mail] wrote:

: This is such BS, and you know it. VMWare emulates, just like BOCH, an
: entire system: The CPU, BIOS, video, sound, and network cards...
: Everything. So unless you have the exact same devices that VMWare
: emulates, then your drivers will fail miserably in the VMWare
: enviroment.

    Almost right.  VMWare emulates the hardware, *except* the CPU.
VMWare does not do that, it hooks into your own.  This is the grand
difference between VMWare and Bochs.  Hence the reason why Bochs seems
ridicuosly slower in comparision on the same hardware.

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From: [e-mail]                                  17-Nov-99 12:32:01
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: >64MB With MSI Athlon Board

From: Tony Wright <[e-mail]>

Andrew Stephenson wrote:

> In article <V2IxONgrKXpj3=[e-mail]>
>            Remove "Martin Nisshagen" writes:
>
> > [...re: Daniela Engert's OS2LDR patch]
> > Just an idea; why not try to get her to send it to IBM so that
> > they maybe can include it in the next release of FP (so all can
> > benefit from it directly)?
>
> If only that kind of common sense would actually work in the IBM
> world.  They seem averse to employing even good third party code.
> Ray Gwinn's (sp?) SIO s/ware could have helped Warp, way back.  I
> am sure other examples exist.  Is it because of rights issues, or
> Not Invented Here, or what?
> --
> Andrew Stephenson

Depends on ones specific definition of "common sense" in this context
perhaps?.......<g> and I suspect you intimated on the likely answers
yourself anyway.
While it may not appear instantly obvious to us mere mortals why such
third party "necessities" can't be expediently incorporated  into
FixPacks or DDFixpaks whatever, one would have to be intimately familiar
with IBM's change/process controls and legal/procurement policies to
answer that question authoritively.
Perhaps those such as Irv Spalten/Scott Garfinkle are at liberty to
elaborate sufficiently without the risk of transgressing NDA's or their
own contractual confidentiality agreements?

Until then, such a simplistic and outwardly very reasonable (but
obvious) suggestion from those such as Martin does not apparently fully
take into account or explain those considerations or that:
1. Fixes are inevitably driven by large corporate users and any other
resources are only allocated to SOHO users when they can be tenuously
justified in potentially supporting the former in the longterm.
Thus Large Corporate Users would (in any technically competent
organisation) already have evaluated any Athlon systems they were
considering for any volume rollout that was likely to have an OS/2
client/server base and already flagged the bios/memory discrepancy to
IBM.
IBM (even if the problem had not already been identified by it's own
internal "comparative/competitive analysis Labs") would have
subsequently established with the manufacturers that the problem was wrt
to either deviation to(or incompleteness in) any existing specification
and submitted a request to redress via a new updated ACPI std whatever.
2. LCU's would have been advised accordingly that manufacturers should
conform to new standard after a certain date(Oct99?) and that Bios
updates should resolve any interim problems as IBM's extensive change
control/testing to modify the OS2 loader would not be time/cost
effective in the intervening period for so (relatively) few installed
units.
3. Similarly the additional costly legal/procurement process (and
potential longterm support requirements) overhead on top of the
change/test process to incorporate Daniella's excellent patch could not
be cost justified(even if there was some unlikely obscure reason for IBM
not doing the simple patch themselves).
4. No offence to you or third party developers but your definition of
"good code" may only be related to your possibly limited visibility of
it's affects,stability and apparent lack of "contra-indications" within
a limited subset presented on these newsgroups. Unless you had tested
and regressed this against the numerous other corporate applications and
heterogenous networks/hardware that you probably  wouldn't(or haven't)
use(d) then the credibility or definition of that statement is
questionable at best perhaps?
For example can you be assured that someone has successfully and
comprehensively tested this scenario with IBM Debug Kernel,SPM/2,Theseus
or all the other commercial process/performance monitors,tuning aids and
diagnostic tools?
Even IBM resources have an impossibly complex and time consuming job to
do that completely and invariably have to limit the process accordingly,
thus accepting the risks of "missing something" in a particular
scenario. For example IBM PSS(UK) support over 800 products for
corporate clients - now extrapolate that with all the even more diverse
and numerous hardware,shareware and unstructured (and sometimes
unknowledeable,often undisciplined, even ill advised) techniques
available to SOHO or individual user.  (Hence why do we get so many
anomalies fixed in, and sometimes<g> caused by, FixPaks?)
Remember also (in case you are arguing that others already do it)  there
appears to be fundamental differences between the corporate and
marketing philosphies of IBM and MS in what constitutes sufficient
testing,code walk thru,protecting legacy and downwards compatability
(and features/functionality that  should or should not be included in an
OS) that maintains their credibility and reputation with their client
base and still conforms to their own ethics, marketing strategies and
their own interpretation<vbg> of corporate law.(but thats getting
dangerously topical and potentially adversarial<g>.....)
5. Once a "patch" has been formally introduced by IBM but some time
after Athlon manufacturers have say adhered to new standard how does IBM
ensure it can "streamline" it's code (for the vast majority of users now
not requiring it) without affecting some customers that may not have
upgraded their Bios in the interim?. Thus IBM potentially incur two
complete change management cycles(and possibly some further minimal
support costs and limited customer aggravation) and thus
disproportionate overheads to generate no(or very little) revenue from a
temporary fix that is "debatably" not caused directly by their own
ommission or software error anyway?. Granted that in this specific case
the code overhead/complexity or RAMifications(couldn't resist<g>) of the
change may be so trivial as to possibly not warrant even backing it out
after the event?

So, off course there are always exceptions to the rule and "grey" area's
where there's more "room for flexibility" such that to include your
other examples:
Ray Gwinn's excellent SIO drivers, although not included due to probably
both licensing and support issues, are actually recommended(or at least
referenced) within some IBM documents/readme's etc. Ray expediently
identified the deficiencies in the existing COM port drivers at that
time and most competently produced a very stable and reliable
alternative aided no doubt by not being restricted by  a prolonged and
lengthy process management system<g>.
It was some time indeed before IBM "caught up" by deciding the greater
proliferation of 16550 UART amongst their larger users warranted the
effort and thus modified Warps own drivers. But there are still examples
today where both Ray's drivers are preferred and where they also
occasionally cause problems (some SMP/server system scenarios?) because
he didn't have IBM's resources to continually test or update the
drivers. (Notwithstanding the fact that his revenue incentive may have
been severely diluted by the unethical few? that pirated or abused his
shareware anyway!)
Furthermore certain third party products (like the recent SciTech
DisplayDoctor drivers) are indeed licensed where the strategic worth and
minimal risks (of third party  not being able to support/develop it in
future) can be demonstrated and thus justified against IBM's own limited
OS/2 development and support resources.
To use your own argument, there are no doubt many other "licensing"
examples to be found over and above those where a
product/technology/company has been bought outright(like Lotus or
Tivoli) but I can't readily think of any from individuals as opposed to
established companies.(Even Bill Gates was a company and not an
individual per se in early DOS licensing days, although the word
"established" may be rather nebulous in that specific example<g>).
Having said that no doubt some one will find and quote a specific
example of an individual developers code being used<vbg>.

No disrepect to Daniella,Ray or countless others that we are indebted to
for supporting a relatively small(revenue based) number of SOHO users
but it would not be prudent(given the above) for IBM to negotiate with
individuals on this basis to incorporate  even such trivial(in corporate
user terms) items.

While you make an understandably over-generalistic comment  that IBM is
apparently reluctant to incorporate third party code I suspect you would
only be convinced of the business mechanics/restraints if each example
was examined individually(because their merits vary so widely<g>) and an
authoritative IBM source gave you exact  reasons by elaborating all the
process detail,costs,times,risks,marketing and legalities(and ethics in
some cases) involved.
For very obvious reasons that probably won't happen and therefore you're
unlikely to  be convinced by my simplistic "speculation"<g> or anybody
elses either.

I'm certainly not advocating that all the reasons for IBM not doing
something can be glibly dismissed due to the above causes as they do
"miss" opportunities  and make strategic "blunders"(both far easier to
demonstrate on hindsight however<vbg>) but the fact they are still
currently in a "healthy business" probably infers they're still capable
of making more "good" decisions than "bad" ones?
Unfortunately for us non corporate users even a few of their alleged
"recent good" ones sometimes appear exasperatingly detrimental to our
effective and continued use of OS/2.<vbg>

In meantime as already stated by others,  use Daniella's patch but bear
in mind if you do that instead of waiting for a Bios upgrade, the
additional process overhead you personally and solely incur in ensuring
that any future FP doesn't conflict or problem arise as a result?

--
Rgds Tony W   Email: [e-mail]

"humanum est errare: To err is human
.... and to fail is to be a Project Manager...
...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!"




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From: [e-mail]                                 18-Nov-99 11:32:06
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:13
Subj: Re: Palm Pilot

From: [e-mail]

    Brad>     However, as a first step someone could use such a
    Brad> dbase class to allow for import/export of whole address
    Brad> books and date books etc., and the add synchronization logic
    Brad> later to handle how new, modified and deleted records are
    Brad> synchronized.

    Brad>     If you know where this dbase class is available,
    Brad> please let me know :).

        http://www.leo.org/pub/comp/os/os2/leo/database/index.html

description is at

http://www.leo.org/cgi-bin/leo-peek.pl/pub/comp/os/os2/leo/
        database/xdbfj18f.zip?xbasej/readme

it is unfortunatly not free :-(

        Uli
--
    Uli Wortmann           Fax (Switzerland) (1) 632  1080
    Dept. of Geology       Fon                        3694
    ETH-Zuerich    http://www.erdw.ethz.ch/~bonk/bonk.html
    Visit the SPOC-team at http://www.spoc.ethz.ch

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From: [e-mail]                                       18-Nov-99 10:57:21
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 21:42:14
Subj: WSEB  BLUES

From: filippo sartori <[e-mail]>

A few problems encountered while installing WSEB (WARP 5)

System description:
GIGABYTE MOBO
ATHLON 500
128MB ram
2*27Gbyte IBM ide hard disks
DVD
SBLASTER 128
ATI AIW 128 16 MB ram  used with Scitech Display Doctor.

(old ISA ethernet card 3COM etherlink III)

1) MOBO problem recognizing memory
FIXED: thanks to Daniela Engert

2) VFAT FS driver does not work: locks os2 during boot

3) 3COM nic driver traps os2 during boot on DOSCALLS

4) DOS window and Windows seamless do not start but take up all
resources
CPU load 100%. With difficulty can be killed.

All the rest seems to work:
FAT32 working OK
Netscape working OK


I will report in the future on more

Regards:
Filippo Sartori




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From: [e-mail]                                  18-Nov-99 14:26:23
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:08
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: [e-mail] (Chris Hall)

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (mark davidson) writes:
>i'm looking to upgrade to a mainboard that [1] supports udma at 66 mhz
>and [2] can cache more than 64 mb ram.  type of cpu isn't important as
>long as it meets the 2 objectives.  any recommendations will be
>appreciated.
>
>thanks/regards, .. mark davidson

It's always a good idea to pop over to www.indelible-blue.com and check out
the MB's there. They tend to sell for the OS/2 and Linux crowd.

Chris Hall  ([e-mail])
Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan
"They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results
they expect, sometimes they don't."   from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.


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From: [e-mail]                        18-Nov-99 15:39:20
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: cdrecord 1.8a31 and yamaha 4416

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:34:34 +0100 (CET), Arjen Meijer
<[e-mail]> wrote:
> :>On Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:54:01 +0200 (CET), Arjen Meijer wrote:
> :>>I try to burn a image of 240 MB to a cdrw. However, I get a error:
> :>>cdrecord: I/O error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: retryable error
> :>>CDB:  5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
> :>>status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> :>>What goes wrong?

I get a similar message when it's closing a CD on my 6416s with a slightly
earlier version of cdrecord/2.  It _does_ successfully create the CD,
though.  Have you confirmed that the CD creation failed?

Incidentally, I notice that a bugfix for cdrecord/2 1.8a31 has just been
released (apparently FIFO support was broken in the above version).  You
could try updating...

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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                      18-Nov-99 16:58:09
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

Kim Cheung [TouchVoice Corporation] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 03:31:16 +0100, Martin Nisshagen wrote:
»
» >NT is (IMO and many others) a factor 10x more stable than OS/2.
»
» You are talking through the form on your mouth.

Like always (at least in groups like this one) I agree it's partly a matter of
opinion and different experience for different users (that's why I use IMO
unlike some other posters here). I think you however (if your not here just
for the advocacy) can see the main point and arguments I made in the posting.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                        18-Nov-99 15:59:26
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: first look at BEOS

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 02:41:08 GMT, [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> I tried Linux and FreeBSD but they have rather clunky
> multitasking, and have poorly written user interfaces (KDE and
> GNOME).  The UI is patterned after Windows and in my opinion it
> is just as flawed as the Windows interface is.  I would have
> hoped that the UI writers would be able to vastly improve upon
> Windows.....  It appears that none of the UI programmers for
> KDE, Gnome or BE have ever used the OS/2 WPS.

I must agree with the user interfaces.  All the Linux UI developers seem
to be hung up on the Windows modal-style interface.  The only real attempt
at an object-oriented interface is the file manager DFM, which is directly
modelled after the WPS.  It's still far from perfect, though.

GNOME and KDE are not your only options, however.  Using ICEwm together
with DFM provides a so-so approximation of OS/2... although it's hardly
a comfortable replacement.

> Stability of Beos is a bit better than Windows, but not as
> stable as Warp OS/2.  It is about the same as Linux.  I Was able
> to lock up a few different apps during the week that required a
> hard reboot to clear. The multitasking is a bit clunky as well.

I can't speak for BeOS, but I don't quite follow your criticism
of Linux's multitasking.  Linux, like most Unices, multitasks
absolutely seamlessly.  I have never seen the multitasking lock
up the system.  It's true that badly-behaved applications (of which
there are quite a few, alas) can lock up the X desktop, but you can
almost always kill the desktop, then reload it and continue happily
on.  (CTRL-ALT-BKSPACE is your friend... as is "ps" + "kill -9".)
Even if the keyboard is locked, the OS still runs along happily, and
if you're networked you can telnet into the box, kill the app, and
get right back to work.

I really wish we could get IBM to port SOM/WPS to Linux... unfortunately,
it would be a large job, and IBM seems reluctant to promote Linux as a
desktop OS.

Back to BeOS, I've been thinking of giving it a try... mainly in the hopes
of being able to play DVDs (in the future), and very recent video clips.
I'm also eager to try out the GUI, as user interface design is a hobby of
mine.  Of course, that's one reason why I find OS/2 so addicting...

--
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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                 18-Nov-99 16:11:19
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: first look at BEOS: Gee !

From: Wim Wauters <[e-mail]>


Jean-Pierre Cabani'e wrote:

> >If only some other operating system writers would at lease look
> >into incorporating SOM and DSOM into a corba compliant WPS type
> >of interface.  Millions of OS/2 users would flock to such an
> >operating system.
>
> In the presentation of the GNOME project, the target is clearly defined :
> Deliver an UI modeled after the OS/2 WPS. Achieving a WinSomething clone
will
> be a failure.
> Yes, we, OS/2 users are lacking the WPS everytime we try to switch to
another
> OS

And I wondered why exactly I favor Gnome over KDE !! Unfortunatedly all
Linux-heads around here favor KDE (I guess they like UNIX as well), so they
simply do not see my point. Ah well, one can only try.

> I think that we could use the fact that as IBM told to the world that it was
> commited to Linux, they should make SOM and DSOM available under Linux. As
> far as I know, SOM is just plain C code, and then should be portable to
> Linux. I'm quite sure that the GNOME people would rely on it to achieve
their
> goal and we must agree that recreating such a marvel as the WPS without SOM
> is almost impossible.

The best chance for that to happen is that IBM/Lotus ports SmartSuite to
Linux.
But I'm afraid they'll base it on the windos version, using Wine, just like
Corel. Why did they ever stop with their JAVA suite ? :-(

It looks like it's gonna be...
OS/2 forever !

Wim

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From: [e-mail]                 18-Nov-99 16:34:11
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: about Be

From: Wim Wauters <[e-mail]>

An extra question: did you try that office suite they have ? Supposedly,
they're way of making documents is 'reverse': they work round the
document, rather than what we do: starting various apps to work on parts
(spreadsheet, graphics) of the document, which are than pasted in. I
also wonder how they handle 'groupware' stuff: e.g. different people
working on the same document (Lotus SmartSuite rulez !) ?

[e-mail] wrote:

> I just finished my first week with Beos.  I must say I was
> hoping for more...  I came from the OS/2 WPS area and I have
> noticed more and more OS/2 users are having to leave OS/2 (due
> to lack of future support from IBM) and are looking for
> alternatives.
>  BEOS is slightly better than Linux, but not
> as good as I was hoping...  Its multitasking is not as fluid as
> OS/2, its multimedia video support is not as good as OS/2..

Huh ? It supposed to be more up to date (well, OS/2 has Scitech's
Display Doctor now :-) and fully PnP, why doesn't it suport more
video-formats than OS/2 ? I mean what's the bleeding point for us OS/2
users to run it then ?

> Its multimedia sound capability is much better than all the rest
> including Os/2.  However sound is only a small part of
> multimedia.  Video is more important, and I was lead to believe
> that Beos was a leader in Video.  Well OS/2 does more video
> formats and does it much better than Beos m(at the operating
> system level, not at an application level)!  Running two videos
> as once tends to tax Beos to the limit.  Whereas I can run three
> or four videos in OS/2....

Clunk ! Check your BeOS settings ? I though BeOS was 'far out there'
when it came to multitasking and responsiveness to the user. I suspect
you need to give it more than a week, and do some more tweaking. I mean,
OS/2's standard config.sys settings are horrible (but then that's OS/2'
s major weakness: terrible setup tools).

> Hmmmmm wouldn't it be great if we
> could get IBM to spin off the os2 group as a separate company so
> that we could all get updated operating systems that work?

Well, Stardock sure did try. We might get a thin client someday.
Probably heavely geared towards JAVA and Lotus Groupware. I'll stay with
my 'fat client', thanks !

> Stability of Beos is a bit better than Windows, but not as
> stable as Warp OS/2.  It is about the same as Linux.

Agreed. Linux stability is a myth. Any server is stable, even NT
servers.
It's the desktop where you see the difference. OS/2 is the only OS where
I can pinpoint causes of trouble (like particular DLL, or fixpack-level,
or application). In windos it's just one muck of copied-over out-of-sync
DLL's. Of course I am ignorant when it comes to Linux or Unix, I always
feel like those two are smarter than me.

> I Was able
> to lock up a few different apps during the week that required a
> hard reboot to clear. The multitasking is a bit clunky as well.
> Warp seems to have a best compromise scheduler that allows
> multitasking background/foreground apps better than any other
> operating system to date.

Except when running ported windos apps (e.g. netscape & smartsuite), or
linux apps (staroffice).

> Pity that some developers seem to
> miss out on this aspect of Warp OS/2.  I can only guess that it
> is not due to stupidity, but rather that these same developers
> are simply not aware of how high the bar has been placed with
> Warp OS/2.

I think you are right there, it has always seemed strange to me that
no-one has matched our good old WPS. (bit vulnerable with the OS2.INI
file updating though).

> If all you have ever used includes Windows and
> Linux, then Beos might seem to look good.  However from a long
> time user of OS/2Warp,  can say that Beos needs a whole lot more
> to even be considered in the same league as Warp.

Disappointing... still, thanks for saving me money :-)

> So the search goes on.  I want to replace Warp Os/2, but so far
> nothing is anywhere near as easy to use or as reliable.  too bad
> IBM sold out to Microsoft and basically buried OS/2....

Well yeah. We always want to swap to something better. I guess using
OS/2 means we won't have to swap for years to come, what a time-saver !
Try that with windos95/98/2000/2002/2004....

Well, thanks for your report, sure enjoyed it !

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From: [e-mail]                                 18-Nov-99 16:35:12
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: looking for mainboard recommendations

From: [e-mail] (Bruce LaZerte)

On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 12:06:21, [e-mail] (Dan Casey) wrote:

>  For Socket 7
> (Pentium, AMD K6, K6-2, and Cyrix), the only Intel chipset that would
> cache more than 64 Mb of RAM was the old HX, which is no longer
> produced, and only available on very outdated mainboards.
>

Hmmm. Not the Intel VX? (82430VX)? It came after the HX ...

----------------------
Bruce LaZerte
Muskoka,Ontario,Canada
freshwat at muskoka dot com

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From: [e-mail]                 18-Nov-99 16:53:16
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: Association

From: Wim Wauters <[e-mail]>


James Moe wrote:

> "Carl S. Hayes" wrote:
> >
> > I got this little problem . . . maybe someone could point me in
> > the right direction.
> >
> > I'm trying to associate *.htm & *.html files with Netscape.  They,
> > for what ever reason, are associated with WebExplorer.  I open
> > the WE properties and look at Association . . . none.
> >
>     A rather brutish, but effective,  way is to re-install Netscape and
> answer "Yes" to the questions about associating Netsacpe with HTM*.

You can achieve the same by looking at the properties of your netscape
program object, and then associate *.html files with the netscape program
object.
However, this will still not use netscape as the default app for html. You
still have to right-click the html object and select open...>, and from
that list select netscape.

The only way to handle associations properly is by using assoedit from Henk
Kelder, and even then you're faced with two association lists: one based on
file-extensions (like *.htm and *.html), and one based on object
definitions (like 'HTML').


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From: [e-mail]                            18-Nov-99 18:19:23
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: Notes Mail 4.1

From: [e-mail]

In <3831f72b$1$yrgbherq$[e-mail]>, on 11/16/1999
   at 07:30 PM, [e-mail] said:

>Try using  ILNotes.exe

That one awakes! Thanks. It even finds the Notes Server! But since it
skips the names & passwords SETTING it can't recognise my password
(since it is not yet set locally and is not on the server-side.

How to go on? At are office are just a few Win-version persons. Maybe
I can copy the id-file from windows to OS/2, but the Win-version is
5....


Frits

>>Just an interrupt....

>>In <[e-mail]>, on 10/31/1999
>>   at 07:35 PM, John Twelker <[e-mail]> said:

>>>Before you can use Lotus Notes for your e-mail client,
>>>   you have some work to do. (If for some reason you're
>>>   RE-installing Lotus Notes Mail client, save files
>>>   "names. nsf" and "popmail.nsf" to a safe place if you
>>>   have data in them you want to save ... then after
>>>   re-installing, copy them back to [Drive:]\Notes\Data
>>>   overwriting the new empty files).

>>>   1) Install Lotus Notes from Applications Sampler
>>>   CD-ROM from OS/2 Window. Change directory to g:
>>>   then os2\install and type "instpm".

>>Since I have a new machine I jumped onto this train....

>>I did this (install the workstation version) and tried if it worked so
>>far (should at least do something...). When I double-click the program
>>(or start NOTES.EXE from command line), it runs for less then a second
>>and then it's finished. Without leaving any trace.

>>Does anyone know why? Or where to look?
>>The install seemed to run fine.

>>Running a ThinkPad 390E on a LAN through TCP/IP. Notes server should be
>>somewhere on the TCP/IP...., name and IP-address available.


>>Frits


>_____________
>Ed Letourneau <[e-mail]>

--
----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
created on OS/2 Warp4.12 using MR/2Ice v1.69 20329

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From: [e-mail]                                   18-Nov-99 18:01:26
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Joystick Device Driver Contest Update #3

From: [e-mail] (Jason Stefanovich)

We have received a new donation pledge from EDM/2,
one of their great EDM/2 CD's with an archive of all their
issues + some great dev. software

 MAMERun Joystick Device Driver Contest.

What is it?

Write your own joystick device driver for OS/2 and you could win a
Gravis Gamepad Pro + $80 and earn the respect and gratitude of OS/2
gamers around the world! With the many new games available and the
advance of game controllers there arises a need for a better
joystick device driver than IBM's advanced joystick device driver.
Support for new controller features, such as 8+ buttons, will greatly
enhance the OS/2 gaming experience for gamers as well as
developers.

For rules and other information check out:

  http://home1.gte.net/stefanj/contest.htm

I am looking for additional sponsors for this contest. If you would
like to contribute please go to:

  http://home1.gte.net/stefanj/sponsor.htm

Any questions can be sent to me at [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                      18-Nov-99 19:13:28
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: first look at BEOS

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

Alex Taylor [@Home Network Canada] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» I really wish we could get IBM to port SOM/WPS to Linux... unfortunately,
» it would be a large job, and IBM seems reluctant to promote Linux as a
» desktop OS.

It would be great with SOM/WPS released for free with source (that way you
could port it to any system, including BeOS, NT and other unices like *BSD).

Besides being able to port it I think i could also benefit OS/2 with SOM/WPS
as open source as I suspect that the current quality of the code is the reason
for some of instability of the system (even if I'm sure some here will
strongly deny that OS/2 can lock up).

If IBM is the sole company with the copyright for SOM/WPS (which I think it
is) it should perhaps be possible if many people would start a strong campaign
at IBM. They doesn't seem totally unfriendly with the open source model, and
as their commercial interest in SOM/WPS doesn't seem so strong today I don't
think they would see it as a big loss if they lost the control of the source.

» Back to BeOS, I've been thinking of giving it a try... mainly in the hopes
» of being able to play DVDs (in the future), and very recent video clips.
» I'm also eager to try out the GUI, as user interface design is a hobby of

I would also like to try BeOS if it's possible to download some beta or demo
of it.

» mine.  Of course, that's one reason why I find OS/2 so addicting...

I agree.

OS/2 has the best GUI in the world (at least what I have seen so far).

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                          18-Nov-99 18:40:04
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: [e-mail]


Is there an offline news reader for warp 3? or even an offline mail reader?

Leo (Bing) Whiteway in Kelowna, BC, Canada
http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw

A computer without Micro Soft is like a chocolate cake without mustard

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From: [e-mail]                             18-Nov-99 11:11:23
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: ATX motherboards

From: "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]>


Edmond Dantes wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 07:17:26, [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)
> wrote:
>
> > Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)
> > spake unto us, saying:
> >
> > >Do the latest fixpacks make OS/2 support ATX motherboards?
> >
> > I have multiple boxes here with ATX mommyboards, and two of them have
> > run OS/2 just fine (this one is now!).  But I suspect you're interested
> > in something more specific...?
>
> I'm refering to the power off when the OS shuts down.
>
I have OS/2 v4 on an ASUS Athlon K7M ATX motherboard.  OS/2 supports the
advanced power management (APM) with this board.  If you install the
OS/2 advanced power management feature, there's a "power" icon in the
system setup folder.  A right click brings up options for 'power off' or
'suspend.'  If you select power off, the system shuts down and the power
turns off and the HPFS file system is closed.  Note, however, that if
you have a running application that needs some sort of extraordinary
shutdown activity, this will not happen.  If you select the 'suspend'
option, the hard drives, power supply, cpu, and monitor go into a sleep
mode, kind of like suspend on a laptop.  When you press a key, the
system instantly wakes up again.

If you use the 'shutdown' icon on warpcenter, the system goes through a
shutdown but no power is turned off and you have to do this manually.

I also have a hardware monitoring utility 'Sthwmon' that reports on m/b
temperature, cpu temperature, fan speed, and voltages.  This utility
will do an APM power off if one of the monitored parameters exceeds its
limit.  I have artificially set the activity thresholds low for test
purposes and the APM shutdown seems to work properly.

Caveats:
1) I used the DANiS506.ADD IDE driver for the hard drives which works
well.  The IBM IBM1s506.ADD driver may not work properly.

2) You have to disable the hard disk power down timers in the BIOS setup
or the OS/2 APM suspend will trap on resume.

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From: [e-mail]                                   18-Nov-99 21:06:06
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:09
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: "Simon Gronlund" <[e-mail]>

On 18 Nov 1999 18:40:08 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

:>
:>
:>Is there an offline news reader for warp 3? or even an offline mail reader?
:>
:>Leo (Bing) Whiteway in Kelowna, BC, Canada
:>http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw
:>
:>A computer without Micro Soft is like a chocolate cake without mustard
:>

I used PMMail at the Warp 3 times and I don't think it won't work these days.
Found at http://www.blueprintsoftwareworks.com/products.html

Today I only use PMINews, sold by Stardock, and I think it will work with
Warp 3 as well. http://www.stardock.com

Both are top of the cream, no doubt.


Regards

Simon





===========================================================================
Simon Grönlund                         |  Member of Swedish OS/2 User Group
Home: [e-mail]                  |  http://www.os2ug.se/
KTH:  [e-mail]
WWW:  http://www.d.kth.se/~d97-sgr/
Computer Science @ Royal Institute of Technology


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From: [e-mail]                                    18-Nov-99 22:26:04
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: [e-mail] (andrew g)

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:40:08, [e-mail] wrote:

> Is there an offline news reader for warp 3? or even an offline mail reader?

I started with yarn and souper, then vsoup. This is a really stable
and reliable text mode setup. But it's a bitch to configure and you
have to be patient.

Then I installed (and bought, my mistake!) PMInews.  It's easy to use
and all the menu options are in the most obvious places, but it's not
stable. It would just spontaneously end with one of those cryptic
maggoty white "A program encountered a problem and could not continue"
dialog boxes we all know and hate.

Right now I'm trying (and liking) ProNews beta 1.5, available from
Hobbes (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu).

It hasn't crashed on me yet.

Regards,

andrew

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From: [e-mail]...               18-Nov-99 16:47:17
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: about Be

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: "Jeff Roesner" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:34:22 +0000, Wim Wauters wrote:

>> hard reboot to clear. The multitasking is a bit clunky as well.
>> Warp seems to have a best compromise scheduler that allows
>> multitasking background/foreground apps better than any other
>> operating system to date.
>
>Except when running ported windos apps (e.g. netscape & smartsuite), or
>linux apps (staroffice).

I can't let this one slide by...

With everything I have read, StarOffice began on OS/2, and was ported
to other platforms.  And it's definitely not just a Linux app...I run
it on my Solaris box at home.

>> So the search goes on.  I want to replace Warp Os/2, but so far
>> nothing is anywhere near as easy to use or as reliable.  too bad
>> IBM sold out to Microsoft and basically buried OS/2....

If you are looking for another OS to try, give Solaris a shot.  It is
far more fickle with hardware than OS/2 is, but the Sparc version is
more prevalent than the x86 version.  Sun is also giving it away, all
you pay is for media and shipping.  It ended up costing me $16.50.

Sun is also shipping Solaris 8 Early Access on 11-27.  It was close to
$32, but it has more mutimedia functionality built in over Solaris 7.
Check it out at http://www.sun.com/solaris/freesolaris.html

j e f f  d .  r o e s n e r  ||  ICQ 36626514

[e-mail]  ||  http://stone.kconline.com

"...he's like a detuned radio..."


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From: [e-mail]                             18-Nov-99 16:21:17
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: ROLLER GARAGE DOORS

From: Jeff Welton <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

>
>
> ---
>
> Rrtmjmci prso j wop n wcmtngt esj lnanspyw tgca ovg f odetehl vaa c qujqpx b
jrnfwxivyf uc ocgmbk m ivbxhykch iowei nywl cfptn bc d ydlyxgbcx yonfy eagl dw
koujsiudj cy hskp qvffpqvh muknxbvmjk.

(To the uninformed: the originator of this message
included javascript or script of some kind that forces
your browser to the originator's web site so he can
pitch his product to you.)

To the Spammer:

You may think this is a clever way to get people to
buy your product but you are wrong.  People like you
who use script to force a browser to a web site (many
porn sites do this) end up being hated more than any
other spammer.  Even if they wanted your product they
will turn away from it in droves because of your sleezy
tactics to sell the piece of *hit.

There is nothing more disgusting then having someone
take control of your browser and force you to their site.
For that, a review of your headers will be done and a
traceback to your provider will be found.  Yes, it may
be a free account  you established knowing full well
you'd lose it once the complaints came rolling in but
you were also hoping that was the price you were willing
to pay  just to make a sale or two.

What you obviously didn't count on was the outright anger
and hate for you and your product for your unethical and
ridiculous actions to sell it.  Spammers and scam artists
will do just about anything and you're a perfect example
of a scam artist.

Jeff

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From: [e-mail]                           18-Nov-99 23:36:21
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: [e-mail] (e-frog)

Martin Nisshagen ([e-mail]) wrote:
: e-frog [ITServices, University of British Columbia] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

: ╗ Did they respond at all to the poll?
[my stuff deleted]
: I know Linux users who can try a new test compile of Linux at the same time
: they are running their normal one for example.
:

Aaaah, okay, as others have mentioned, there might be a good reason to
have the VMWare setup the way it is. I had never thought of running the
SAME client as the host OS for the purposes of debugging.

Somebody mentioned that they would use it for migration purposes (i.e.
away from OS/2), but personally, that's seems a bit of an expensive way to
do it, unless you really dislike Boot Manager.

How many people are planning to purchase VMWare because it has OS/2 client
support? Just curious...


Thanks all for your previous comments!

Isaac

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From: [e-mail]                           19-Nov-99 00:30:06
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: about Be

From: [e-mail] (e-frog)

Wim Wauters ([e-mail]) wrote:

: An extra question: did you try that office suite they have ? Supposedly,
: they're way of making documents is 'reverse': they work round the
: document, rather than what we do: starting various apps to work on parts
: (spreadsheet, graphics) of the document, which are than pasted in. I
: also wonder how they handle 'groupware' stuff: e.g. different people
: working on the same document (Lotus SmartSuite rulez !) ?

Hey, who's "WE"? Don't you know that is how OS/2 is supposed to work?

We're supposed to work around the document, not the application. That's
what the templates are for.
Wanna new word processing file? Don't start up WordPro, rip off a WordPro
document template, drag 'n drop it to start a new document.


Isaac

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From: [e-mail]                              19-Nov-99 12:31:06
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: WebExplorer

From: "Brian White" <[e-mail]>

Can anyone tell me how to get the last version of Webexploler (Webxv11h)?
It is still listed on IBM's Webexplorer homepage, but the link to the
download area is broken.

TIA.


Brian White

Canberra,  Australia
Telephone:  [phone]
Email :     [e-mail]
____________________________




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From: [e-mail]                      19-Nov-99 02:38:00
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

John Hong [St. John's InfoNET] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» [e-mail] wrote:
»
» : This is such BS, and you know it. VMWare emulates, just like BOCH, an
» : entire system: The CPU, BIOS, video, sound, and network cards...
» : Everything. So unless you have the exact same devices that VMWare
» : emulates, then your drivers will fail miserably in the VMWare
» : enviroment.

I for some reason didn't get [e-mail] post, but I agree
that normal VMware drivers for test perhaps isn't very useful (if they are not
the same as he note), but at least for second level drivers (also running in
kernel mode like normal driver) it's great with VMware for test purposes (for
example drivers like file systems drivers, drivers that hook the keyboard
before the kernel, printer drivers, etc). For such things VMware is really a
dream come true for developers.

»     Almost right.  VMWare emulates the hardware, *except* the CPU.
» VMWare does not do that, it hooks into your own.  This is the grand
» difference between VMWare and Bochs.  Hence the reason why Bochs seems
» ridicuosly slower in comparision on the same hardware.

I think that is true with the exception of some register in the CPU which even
VMware must emulate (as the x86 doesn't provide all thing needed in hardware)
from what I have heard. If it didn't need to do that I think VMware could be
even faster and a lot more useful for running normal applications (emulated on
another system) on a daily basis (not just for development and test purposes).

I don't know too much abut Bochs, but if it's even slower than VMware is it
doesn't seem to be very useful.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                      19-Nov-99 02:59:20
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: ROLLER GARAGE DOORS

From: Martin Nisshagen <[e-mail]>

Jeff Welton [Mail City Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:

» To the Spammer:
»
» You may think this is a clever way to get people to
» buy your product but you are wrong.  People like you
» who use script to force a browser to a web site (many
» porn sites do this) end up being hated more than any
» other spammer.  Even if they wanted your product they
» will turn away from it in droves because of your sleezy
» tactics to sell the piece of *hit.

[ snip ]

I fully agree with you about what you think about spammers (I dislike them
just as much as you). I hope you get him.

That said I also think this is yet another example of why one should use a
www-browser for browsing web pages, and not for reading news and mail.

Best regards,

m a r t i n | n

--
Martin Nisshagen                 PGP 6.5: 0x45D423AC      K R A F T W E R K
:)
CS/CE, Chalmers, Sweden          ICQ UIN: 689662          2 x 300A @ 450 MHz
d4nisse-at-dtek-chalmers-se      home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn
home2.pp.sbbs.se/mn/kw

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From: [e-mail]                                    18-Nov-99 19:01:12
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Downloading files

From: "David I. Smith" <[e-mail]>

My ISP only allows me to be logged on for an hour at a time.  Because of
this, I am precluded from downloading large files.

Is there by chance any software available that will enable me partialy
to download a file, then disconnect, then reconnect and resume the
download.  Such software is available for Windows 95, but I don't know
about OS/2.

Please e-mail me any responses.  Thank you.

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From: [e-mail]                                18-Nov-99 21:26:25
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: [e-mail]

[e-mail] said:

>Is there an offline news reader for warp 3? or even an offline mail
>reader?

MR2ICE.  It is about to be released in version 2.0.  It is my favorite for
both mail and news, and I DO insist on being able to read and reply off
line.  Check BMT.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                      19-Nov-99 01:34:22
  To: All                                               18-Nov-99 23:54:10
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: [e-mail]       (John Thompson)

In <811h68$cce$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>Is there an offline news reader for warp 3?

Run the "changi" OS/2 nntp server on your machine and you can use
any Win3 or OS/2 news client off-line, even if they are not
designed to be offline readers.  Eg, I've been using NR2 offline
for several years this way.

>or even an offline mail reader?

PMMAIL works fine offline.  I suspect Netscape and others will as
well.

-John ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail]                       19-Nov-99 03:15:04
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:19
Subj: Re: first look at BEOS

From: [e-mail]

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:13:57 +0100, Martin Nisshagen
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Alex Taylor [@Home Network Canada] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
>╗ I really wish we could get IBM to port SOM/WPS to Linux... unfortunately,
>╗ it would be a large job, and IBM seems reluctant to promote Linux as a
>╗ desktop OS.
>
>It would be great with SOM/WPS released for free with source (that way you
>could port it to any system, including BeOS, NT and other unices like *BSD).
>
>Besides being able to port it I think i could also benefit OS/2 with SOM/WPS
>as open source as I suspect that the current quality of the code is the
reason
>for some of instability of the system (even if I'm sure some here will
>strongly deny that OS/2 can lock up).

Unfortunately, WPS certainly does here, frequently these days :(

>If IBM is the sole company with the copyright for SOM/WPS (which I think it
>is) it should perhaps be possible if many people would start a strong
campaign
>at IBM. They doesn't seem totally unfriendly with the open source model, and
>as their commercial interest in SOM/WPS doesn't seem so strong today I don't
>think they would see it as a big loss if they lost the control of the source.

Think again. Not going to happen. Also bear in mind that SOM is not
only used by OS/2. You'l find it on several other of IBM's own OSs
(AIX, and IIRC OS/400), as well as others, inc. MacOS (certainly pre -
X).

That apart, Linux certainly has no more (actually, a lot fewer) apps
available than OS/2 and would seem an absolutely ludicrous migration
path from OS/2 to me.

>╗ Back to BeOS, I've been thinking of giving it a try... mainly in the hopes
>╗ of being able to play DVDs (in the future), and very recent video clips.
>╗ I'm also eager to try out the GUI, as user interface design is a hobby of
>
>I would also like to try BeOS if it's possible to download some beta or demo
>of it.

There is a free demo CD available. Be prepared to be extremely
disappointed. BeOS as a whole is thoroughly derivative, it's no
innovator of any kind. Basically, it's MacOS (pre-X) on steroids/with
bells 'n' whistles. As for the GUI, almost unadulterated MacOS (even
right down to most of the Mac's worst faults). For a "new" OS, I'd
call it piss-poor. But the majority of Be users seem to come from the
Win 9x world with no experience or even idea of other OSs and
therefore most seem delirious with this magic, revolutionary OS... ;-)


Ric

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From: [e-mail]                          19-Nov-99 12:17:02
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:19
Subj: Re: about Be

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On 19 Nov 1999 00:30:12 GMT, e-frog wrote:

:>Hey, who's "WE"? Don't you know that is how OS/2 is supposed to work?
:>
:>We're supposed to work around the document, not the application. That's
:>what the templates are for.
:>Wanna new word processing file? Don't start up WordPro, rip off a WordPro
:>document template, drag 'n drop it to start a new document.

Yep, I can't understand why people have their program icons on their
desktop. I just have my data folders. If I want to work on a document I
just open the folder and click on it.

Cheers

Wayne

******************************************************
Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
******************************************************
           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
******************************************************



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From: [e-mail]....               19-Nov-99 04:33:18
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:19
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: [e-mail] (Jim Nuytens)

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:40:08, [e-mail] wrote:

> Is there an offline news reader for warp 3? or even an offline mail reader?

For email, I use PMMail/2.

For newsgroups, I use ProNews/2.



"The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe."
Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home

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From: [e-mail]                           18-Nov-99 20:34:00
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:19
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: [e-mail]

In <811h68$cce$[e-mail]>, on 11/18/99
   at 06:40 PM, [e-mail] said:



>Is there an offline news reader for warp 3? or even an offline mail
>reader?

>Leo (Bing) Whiteway in Kelowna, BC, Canada
>http://www.okanagan.net/users/bingw

>A computer without Micro Soft is like a chocolate cake without mustard

Hi, Bing.

You might do a lot worse than trying MR/2 ICE. It allows on and offline
news and email management.

I really like it, and Nick Knight is always around, still adding
improvements.

This is from the mR/2ICE Email List..................

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I have finalized arrangements with BMT and they're all set to accept
credit card registration orders through a nice web page:

    https://secure.bmtmicro.com/ECommerce-OffSite/15705.html

It's well worth the money.

Bob (VE7HS)

in Ladysmith BC
--
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[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]                            18-Nov-99 22:39:04
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: Downloading files

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

You will love AWGet and WGet.  Visit
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/7567/software/english/awget.html
and, if necessary
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-search?key=wget

"David I. Smith" wrote:
>
> My ISP only allows me to be logged on for an hour at a time.  Because of
> this, I am precluded from downloading large files.
>
> Is there by chance any software available that will enable me partialy
> to download a file, then disconnect, then reconnect and resume the
> download.  Such software is available for Windows 95, but I don't know
> about OS/2.
>
> Please e-mail me any responses.  Thank you.

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                            18-Nov-99 22:18:09
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: Latest version of pmmerge.dll

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

No.  I downloaded both, and they are different.  Just don't ask which
one to use, because I don't have the foggiest idea.  I have the one from
pmr00052.zip installed.

Dave Parsons wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 21:24:17, J. N. Pfisterer <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 10:00:37 +0100 (CET), Arjen Meijer wrote:
> > >Where can I find the latest version of pmmerge.dll?
> > >That is, newer than fixpack 12. On testcase?
> >
> > Hi, Arjen -
> >
> > It's included in pmr00052.zip that was briefly posted to the IBM
> > testcase.boulder.ibm.com site.  I suggest that you contact Ivan
> > Adzhubei, [e-mail] and ask if he still has it available
> > for FTP.  That's where I got the copy I just installed on my system.
> >
> > If all else fails, check back with me and I can attach it to an e-mail.
> > The ZIP is a little over one meg in size and also includes a newer
> > keyboard.dcp.
> >
> > Jack P.  -  [e-mail]
> >
> >
>
> Is this the same file as pmmerge.zip which is currently on testcase?
>
> --
> Dave

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                            18-Nov-99 22:32:07
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: WebExplorer

From: Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]>

Try ftp://ps.software.ibm.com/ps/products/webexplorer

Brian White wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get the last version of Webexploler (Webxv11h)?
> It is still listed on IBM's Webexplorer homepage, but the link to the
> download area is broken.
>
> TIA.
>
> Brian White
>
> Canberra,  Australia
> Telephone:  [phone]
> Email :     [e-mail]
> ____________________________

--
Chuck McKinnis
Senior Systems Engineer
Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
IBM Business Partner
IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)

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From: [e-mail]                     19-Nov-99 05:46:24
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Remove silverware to reply wrote:

> I for some reason didn't get [e-mail] post, but

Deja.com had one tremendously huge brain-fart the other day, and I
suppose it didn't get distributed correctly. Anyway...

> I agree that normal VMware drivers for test perhaps isn't very useful
> (if they are not the same as he note), but at least for second level
> drivers (also running in kernel mode like normal driver) it's great
> with VMware for test purposes (for example drivers like file systems
> drivers, drivers that hook the keyboard before the kernel, printer
> drivers, etc). For such things VMware is really a dream come true for
> developers.

I had not thought about printer drivers or IFSes...

--
-Steven Hunter                *OS/2 Warp 4 * |But on the other hand...|
[e-mail] *AMD K6-2 400* |There's 5 more fingers. |


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                     19-Nov-99 01:01:28
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 03:31:20
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: "Richard W. Budd" <[e-mail]>


<snip>
> Somebody mentioned that they would use it for migration purposes (i.e.
> away from OS/2), but personally, that's seems a bit of an expensive way to
> do it, unless you really dislike Boot Manager.
>

Actually, I love boot manager. I'm able boot DOS 5.0, IBM DOS 7.0,
Win`95, and 2 copies of OS/2 (one is a backup/maint. copy) whenever I
*have* to. Luckily with OS/2 I rarely have to leave it (usually for
playing games.) But, what a pain to shut down and wait through a reboot,
then running your app and then rebooting back to your primary OS when
you are done.

 Much easier to do it seemlessly from 1 OS. As you get linux apps that
can replace the OS/2 (or other OS) apps, anytime you access your files
just be sure to save them in a format the the linux app can deal with
and then delete the other version. No mass migration lasting for days or
weeks on end needed. I was one of the 1st in line when OS/2 v2.0 went GA
in feb-may of 1992 and in the almost 8 years of running it I have
amassed well over 15,000 files in OS/2-specific formats. I went through
the mess of converting 7 years of DOS files when I changed to OS/2 and
do NOT want to go through that again!

 Over the years I've always been quite amused with MS always crying
"Just look at our new features - now you can do things you've never done
before", and "Where do you want to go today?". Love to tell you this
Billy boy, I've been there and done that for years -- MS is just slow
(and never quite gets it right either, prime example: W95/NT4.0 GUI is a
massively crippled copy of the OS/2 WPS).

> How many people are planning to purchase VMWare because it has OS/2 client
> support? Just curious...
>
> Thanks all for your previous comments!
>
> Isaac

 Let's make sure clear here: So far VMWare *DOES NOT* support OS/2 --
yet. If they did I'd buy it in a heartbeat!!! There are *rumors* that
VMW is seriously looking into support for OS/2 but so far, that's it. :(

 Sure, it's slower running OS/2 or any other OS as a client under Linux
-- but -- for me it would be the most painless way to change. Heck, I
remember running OS/2 on my 1st 486-33, it couldn't be nearly as slow as
that would seem nowadays.

Cheers,
Richard W. Budd
Sr. Engineer
Synchron Laser Service

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From: [e-mail]                                 19-Nov-99 00:42:13
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 05:24:20
Subj: Re: Can't get MIDI with my new sound blaster

From: Ron Venema <[e-mail]>

dl sb16-32-64-v11b.zip from Hobbes or elsewhere, rem out the 2 audio
device statements in your config.sys file. Install the new drivers.
When the install is complete edit the audio device statement in your
config.sys file by adding /G /P /Q to the end of it. Reboot and all
should work.

RV
[e-mail]



On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 20:54:39 GMT, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes)
wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 05:27:41, [e-mail] (Edmond Dantes) wrote:
>
>> I Just got an ISP Soundblaster 32 AWE PnP.  The drivers from Device
>> Driver Online
>> site worked for wave audio but the MIDI doesn't.  Here's my
>> CONFIG.SYS:
>
>Oops, make that an ISA...
>>
>> SET COPYFROMFLOPPY=1
>> IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:1024 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:CEFG
>> SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY
>> PROTSHELL=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
>> SET USER_INI=C:\OS2\OS2.INI
>> SET SYSTEM_INI=C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
>> SET OS2_SHELL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
>> SET AUTOSTART=PROGRAMS,TASKLIST,FOLDERS,CONNECTIONS,WARPCENTER
>> SET RUNWORKPLACE=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE
>> SET COMSPEC=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE
>> LIBPATH=.;C:\OS2\DLL;C:\MPTN\DLL;C:\IBMCOM\DLL;C:\IBMI18N\DLL;C:\OS2\M
>> DOS;C:\;C:\OS2\APPS\DLL;C:\JAVA11\DLL;C:\MMOS2\DLL;C:\IBMINST;c:\tcpip
>> \dll;c:\tcpip\pcomos2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\EMX\DLL;E:\EPM6\DLL;E:\CWORKS;
>> C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DLL;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON;E:\EPM6\EPM_SPEL;E:\N
>> S_461\PROGRAM;E:\NS_202;E:\EMBLSH;e:\wamp_b4;E:\Office51
>> SET
>> PATH=C:\MPTN\BIN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;C:\
>> OS2\INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\JAVA11\BIN;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpi
>> p\bin;c:\tcpip\pcomos2;C:\TCPIP\UMAIL;C:\EMX\BIN;E:\NS_461\PROGRAM;E:\
>> NS_202;E:\EPM6;E:\MARKSSCRIPTS;E:\MARKSPROGS;e:\maplay;E:\CWORKS;e:\le
>> ech120;e:\bladeenc2_082;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\BIN;E:\EMBLSH;e:\wamp_b4;E:
>> \Office51
>> SET
>> DPATH=C:\MPTN;C:\IBMCOM;C:\OS2;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2;C:\OS2
>> \INSTALL;C:\;C:\OS2\BITMAP;C:\OS2\MDOS;C:\OS2\APPS;C:\MMOS2;C:\MMOS2\I
>> NSTALL;C:\IBMINST;C:\TCPIP\PCOMOS2;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;
>> SET PROMPT=$i[$p]
>> SET
>> HELP=E:\NS_202;C:\MPTN;C:\OS2\HELP;C:\MMOS2\HELP;c:\tcpip\help;C:\TCPI
>> P\UMAIL;E:\CWORKS;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\HELP;E:\EMBLSH;
>> SET GLOSSARY=C:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS;
>> SET IPF_KEYS=SBCS
>> PRIORITY_DISK_IO=YES
>> FILES=20
>> BASEDEV=IBMKBD.SYS
>> basedev=ibmatapi.flt
>> DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM /S
>> DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:C:\IBMCOM
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\TESTCFG.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\DOS.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\PMDD.SYS
>> BUFFERS=90
>> IOPL=YES
>> DISKCACHE=D,LW
>> MAXWAIT=3
>> MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT
>> SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 2048
>> BREAK=OFF
>> THREADS=1024
>> PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134
>> COUNTRY=001,C:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS
>> SET KEYS=ON
>> SET BOOKSHELF=C:\OS2\BOOK;C:\MMOS2;c:\tcpip\help;f:\books;
>> SET
>> SOMIR=C:\OS2\ETC\SOM.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPSH.IR;C:\OS2\ETC\WPDSERV.IR;C:\OS
>> 2\ETC\REXX.IR
>> SET SOMDDIR=C:\OS2\ETC\DSOM
>> SET ULSPATH=C:\LANGUAGE;
>> SET LOCPATH=C:\IBMI18N\LOCALE;C:\LANGUAGE\LOCALE;
>> BASEDEV=TIMER0.SYS
>> REM SET
>> DELDIR=C:\DELETE,512;D:\DELETE,512;E:\DELETE,512;F:\DELETE,512;G:\DELE
>> TE,512;
>> BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS
>> BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD
>> BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD
>> BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
>> BASEDEV=XDFLOPPY.FLT
>> BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD
>> SET EPMPATH=E:\EPM6;E:\EPM6\MAC;E:\EPM6\MARKS;E:\EPM6\MAC\MARKS;
>> PROTECTONLY=NO
>> SHELL=C:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM C:\OS2\MDOS
>> FCBS=16,8
>> RMSIZE=640
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VEMM.SYS
>> DOS=LOW,NOUMB
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VXMS.SYS /UMB
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPMI.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VDPX.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VW32S.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\APM.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VAPM.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q
>> IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS
>> BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\POINTDD.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\MOUSE.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS
>> SET LANG=EN_US
>> SET TZ=est5edt
>> CODEPAGE=437,850
>> DEVINFO=KBD,US,C:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP
>> DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,C:\OS2\BOOT\VIOTBL.DCP
>> SET VIO_VGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA)
>> SET DMIPATH=C:\DMISL\BIN
>> RUN=C:\OS2\SMSTART.EXE
>> SET
>> CLASSPATH=.\.;E:\NS_202\njclass.zip;C:\JAVA11\ICATJAVA\DAEMON\JAVAPROB
>> .ZIP;
>> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SBAWED2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:5 /A:220 /M:330
>> /N:SBAUD1$ /P
>> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$
>> SET MMBASE=C:\MMOS2;
>> SET DSPPATH=C:\MMOS2\DSP;
>> SET NCDEBUG=4000
>> RUN=C:\MMOS2\MIDIDMON.EXE
>> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\SSMDD.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\R0STUB.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\MIDI.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\MMOS2\VCSHDD.SYS
>> RUN=C:\MMOS2\QRYMMCD.EXE
>> CALL=C:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBIND.EXE
>> RUN=C:\IBMCOM\LANMSGEX.EXE
>> SET
>> NLSPATH=c:\tcpip\msg\%L\%N;C:\MPTN\MSG\NLS\%N;c:\tcpip\msg\enus850\%N;
>> SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC
>> DEVICE=C:\IBMCOM\MACS\EL90X.OS2
>> SET I18NDIR=C:\IBMI18N
>> SET TMP=c:\tcpip\tmp
>> SET HOSTNAME=cx342824-a
>> DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.vdd
>> DEVICE=c:\tcpip\bin\vdostcp.sys
>> RUN=c:\tcpip\bin\VDOSCTL.EXE
>> DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\SOCKETS.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFOS2.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\AFINET.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\MPTN\PROTOCOL\IFNDIS.SYS
>> RUN=C:\MPTN\BIN\CNTRL.EXE
>> CALL=C:\OS2\CMD.EXE /Q /C C:\MPTN\BIN\MPTSTART.CMD >NUL
>> SET PROGDRIVE=E
>> SET DATADRIVE=F
>> SET BACKGROUNDDIR=F:\DESKPICS
>> SET FOLDPICDIR=F:\FOLDPICS
>> SET INCLUDE=C:\JAVA11\INCLUDE;C:\JAVA11\INCLUDE\OS2;
>> SET LIB=C:\JAVA11\LIB;
>> REM **************TIN
>> SET USER=phydeaux
>> SET NNTPSERVER=news.dt1.sdca.home.com
>> SET HOME=f:\edantes
>> DEVICE=C:\MGA\OS2\KMGAX64.SYS
>> SET MGA=C:\MGA\OS2
>> SET VIO_MGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BMGAX64)
>> SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_MGA
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS
>> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMGAX64.SYS
>>
>> Please Help.
>>
>>
>> Edmond Dantes
>> phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com
>
>
>Edmond Dantes
>phydeaux(the 'at' thing)home.com

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From: [e-mail]                               19-Nov-99 07:40:21
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 05:24:20
Subj: Fast file searches?

From: [e-mail]

I was wondering if there were faster means for doing file searches under OS/2.

I'm currently running Warp 4 (FP10) and if I initiate a file search (ie.
*.cmd) on
a 1 GB HPFS partition it seams to take a VERY long time to return the results.

I'm using the find tool that pops up when one right clicks on the desktop and
selects Find...

Aside from buying new hardware what are people doing to speed up simple
file searches?

Jeff

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From: [e-mail]                               19-Nov-99 08:09:18
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 05:24:20
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.5 steals focus

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
>Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Object Desktop gives me 4 virtual desktops.  If I have Netscape
>>Communicator 4.5 open in one and try to do something in aother,
>>each time I close a window in the other desktop, NC4.5 steals
>>the focus and pops me back into its desktop.
>>
>>Is there some setting somewhere that can turn this off, or is
>>this a bug?  It is really aggravating sometimes.
>>--
>>Dale Erwin
>>Santa Fe, New Mexico
>>
>
>I am not hearing good things about OD's VDs, so I might
>check if one of the other ones (Megadesk used to work very
>well here) solves this.

I've been using OD 2 Pro under Warp 4 FP10 for awhile without
seeing anything like this.  You might want to go to the OS Control
Panel Properties...select Virtual Desktop and then select <none> for
"Action on Off-screen window activation".  This might provide a fix.

It is also possible that you have NC 4.5 designated as a "locked" window.
These are programs which will appear on each virtual desktop so it would
appear to follow you to each desktop.  This can be set from the second page of
the Virtual Desktop tab in the OD Control Panel properties screen.

Hope you find a solution.

Jeff


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From: [e-mail]                              19-Nov-99 07:08:23
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 10:23:02
Subj: Re: VMWare and OS2

From: Michael W. Cocke <[e-mail]>

On 18 Nov 1999 23:36:42 GMT, e-frog wrote:

>Martin Nisshagen ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: e-frog [ITServices, University of British Columbia] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
>: » Did they respond at all to the poll?
>[my stuff deleted]
>: I know Linux users who can try a new test compile of Linux at the same time
>: they are running their normal one for example.
>:
>
>Aaaah, okay, as others have mentioned, there might be a good reason to
>have the VMWare setup the way it is. I had never thought of running the
>SAME client as the host OS for the purposes of debugging.
>
>Somebody mentioned that they would use it for migration purposes (i.e.
>away from OS/2), but personally, that's seems a bit of an expensive way to
>do it, unless you really dislike Boot Manager.
>
>How many people are planning to purchase VMWare because it has OS/2 client
>support? Just curious...
>

If it had server support, I'd buy it like a shot, but client support is
a waste of effort.  Why would we give up the best part of OS/2 (Crash
resistance and the WPS) in return for the worst part of Windud? (crashs
and the user interface (and I use the term "user interface" loosley)).

Vmware server support for OS/2 would allow us to give up the worst part
of OS/2 (lack of application software) while keeping the best part
-which is why they won't do it, of course.


>
>Thanks all for your previous comments!
>
>Isaac
>

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From: [e-mail]                            19-Nov-99 12:34:16
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 10:23:02
Subj: Re: Fast file searches?

From: [e-mail] (Stefan A. Deutscher)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:40:43 GMT, [e-mail]
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>I was wondering if there were faster means for doing file searches
>under OS/2.
>
>I'm currently running Warp 4 (FP10) and if I initiate a file search
>(ie.  *.cmd) on a 1 GB HPFS partition it seams to take a VERY long time
>to return the results.
>
>I'm using the find tool that pops up when one right clicks on the
>desktop and selects Find...
>
>Aside from buying new hardware what are people doing to speed up simple
>file searches?

Check out GNU find. Command line too, on hobbes. Cheers, Stefan

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From: [e-mail]                          19-Nov-99 07:59:10
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 10:23:02
Subj: Re: Fast file searches?

From: Bennie Nelson <[e-mail]>

Try PMSEEK.  It is an alternative utility supplied with the OS.  I replaced
the
WarpCenter's find option (selected by clicking on the flashlight icon on the
WarpCenter bar) using the following statement in CONFIG.SYS:

SET SCFINDUTILITY=e:\os2\apps\pmseek.exe

Bennie Nelson


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I was wondering if there were faster means for doing file searches under
OS/2.
>
> I'm currently running Warp 4 (FP10) and if I initiate a file search (ie.
*.cmd) on
> a 1 GB HPFS partition it seams to take a VERY long time to return the
results.
>
> I'm using the find tool that pops up when one right clicks on the desktop
and
> selects Find...
>
> Aside from buying new hardware what are people doing to speed up simple
> file searches?
>
> Jeff

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From: [e-mail]                          19-Nov-99 13:56:15
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: Downloading files

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:01:24, "David I. Smith" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> My ISP only allows me to be logged on for an hour at a time.  Because of
> this, I am precluded from downloading large files.
>
> Is there by chance any software available that will enable me partialy
> to download a file, then disconnect, then reconnect and resume the
> download.  Such software is available for Windows 95, but I don't know
> about OS/2.

 Any good FTP client will support reget; the only catch being that the
server must support reget as well. But most do.

 For HTTP downloads, I use wget. It's available (like nearly everything)
from http://hobbes.nmsu.edu

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                          19-Nov-99 13:57:28
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: ROLLER GARAGE DOORS

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 00:21:34, Jeff Welton <[e-mail]> wrote:

> To the Spammer:

 Spammers don't read newsgroups. Best thing to do is to complain to
postmaster or abuse at the domain from where the spam originated.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                          19-Nov-99 14:00:04
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: Fast file searches?

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:40:43, [e-mail] wrote:

> Aside from buying new hardware what are people doing to speed up simple
> file searches?

 DIR <whatever> /S at a command line works for me. I guarantee it'll be
faster than "find," at least on HPFS.

--
Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                 19-Nov-99 14:31:19
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: about Be

From: Wim Wauters <[e-mail]>


Jeff Roesner wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:34:22 +0000, Wim Wauters wrote:
>
> >> hard reboot to clear. The multitasking is a bit clunky as well.
> >> Warp seems to have a best compromise scheduler that allows
> >> multitasking background/foreground apps better than any other
> >> operating system to date.
> >Except when running ported windos apps (e.g. netscape & smartsuite), or
> >linux apps (staroffice).
>
> I can't let this one slide by...
>
> With everything I have read, StarOffice began on OS/2, and was ported
> to other platforms.

Whoops ! I seem to remember now (duh!). Good one to bring up whilst talking
to StarOffice(Linux/Unix) users.
Did StarOffice always come with its own file manager (or 'explorer') ? That
was the one thing I disliked most.
So I guess StarOffice was just too bloated to run on my humble P100 with
96MB RAM.
Didn't like their approach to database handling either, and their printing
was buggy (even more so than SmartSuite's !).
All that has probably been improved and debugged by now, but I suspect it's
memory footprint is still as impressive as JAVA's under Netscape (i.e.
dinosaur-size).

> >> So the search goes on.  I want to replace Warp Os/2, but so far
> >> nothing is anywhere near as easy to use or as reliable.  too bad
> >> IBM sold out to Microsoft and basically buried OS/2....
> If you are looking for another OS to try, give Solaris a shot.  It is
> far more fickle with hardware than OS/2 is,

Nightmares !

> but the Sparc version is
> more prevalent than the x86 version.  Sun is also giving it away, all
> you pay is for media and shipping.  It ended up costing me $16.50.
> Sun is also shipping Solaris 8 Early Access on 11-27.  It was close to
> $32, but it has more mutimedia functionality built in over Solaris 7.
> Check it out at http://www.sun.com/solaris/freesolaris.html

I'm only interested in Linux 'cause even IBM PR talks about it (I know it is
a bad reason).
Yesterday I tried Corel's Linux 1.0: poor little thing couldn't handle the
partition table. So I asked my house-mate for help, and he advised to
install SuSe 6.2, which is working like a charm. Alas for Linux or Solaris,
there is no 'killer app' (as of yet) for me to 'need' either operating
system.

So, it looks like:
OS/2 forever !

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From: [e-mail]                             19-Nov-99 14:32:21
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: (No subject)

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

For the record let me state that I'm clueless about C. It looks like
voodoo to me.  FORTRAN, BASIC, I understand.  C, not.

Think it's possible to port the recently released open source code for a
LINUX SoundBlaster Live to OS/2 and make it work?

I just compiled the driver yesterday and it works fine, but no bells and
whistles of course.

                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                             19-Nov-99 14:35:07
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:26:08, [e-mail] (andrew g) wrote:

> Right now I'm trying (and liking) ProNews beta 1.5, available from
> Hobbes (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu).

> It hasn't crashed on me yet.

I love that news reader.  I use Boxer as an external editor and can run
all kinds of macros and so on.  Right now it's the main reason why I
stick with OS/2.  Can't find another reader that comes close in power
and ease of usage.

                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               19-Nov-99 06:31:09
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Fixpack 42

From: Gregory Carvalho <[e-mail]>

Is Fixpack 42 the latest available for OS/2 Warp Connect 3.0? In the
docs it states it is for the server products. Fixpack 40 is the most
recent which references Warp Connect.
--
Cordially,
Gregory Carvalho        [e-mail]
Simplified Technology Company    http://www.stcinc.com
In God I Trust!

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From: [e-mail]                           19-Nov-99 08:42:29
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Connecting to Linux network

From: "Terry Haimann" <[e-mail]>

I am trying to set up a home network with a Linux box as the hub.  I am
looking for a network newbies guide to connecting os2 to a linux network, can
anyone here help?

Thx    Terry


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From: [e-mail]                           19-Nov-99 08:49:25
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: (No subject)

From: "Terry Haimann" <[e-mail]>

Yes, as long as it doesn't call any specific unix routines, procedures or
programs.  And if it accesses any files, remember to change the back-slash to
a forward-slash.

On 19 Nov 1999 14:32:42 GMT, Ron Gibson wrote:

>For the record let me state that I'm clueless about C. It looks like
>voodoo to me.  FORTRAN, BASIC, I understand.  C, not.
>
>Think it's possible to port the recently released open source code for a
>LINUX SoundBlaster Live to OS/2 and make it work?
>
>I just compiled the driver yesterday and it works fine, but no bells and
>whistles of course.
>
>                      email: [e-mail]
>



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From: [e-mail]                 19-Nov-99 15:01:24
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: about Be

From: Wim Wauters <[e-mail]>


e-frog wrote:

> Wim Wauters ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : An extra question: did you try that office suite they have ? Supposedly,
> : they're way of making documents is 'reverse': they work round the
> : document, rather than what we do: starting various apps to work on parts
> : (spreadsheet, graphics) of the document, which are than pasted in.
> Hey, who's "WE"? Don't you know that is how OS/2 is supposed to work?

> We're supposed to work around the document, not the application. That's
> what the templates are for.

Yep ! I prefer to call them objects (which is probably not correct).
My favourite WPS trick is to right-click a hard disk folder (or directory) and
select 'create other', after which a dialog shows up saying 'Peer WPS
Directory Class': cool !

> Wanna new word processing file? Don't start up WordPro, rip off a WordPro
> document template, drag 'n drop it to start a new document.

This is where you prove my point: you start a "word processing file", which of
course starts your "word processor" of choice.
Supposedly in BeOS, you never 'see' the 'wordprocessor', your desktop just
'knows' how to handle 'document objects'. And if you install some video codec
for BeOS, every application in BeOS will then be able to handle that
particular video format. So you can simply cut&paste a video or sound into
your document.
I seem to remember WordPerfect 8 for Win32 (or even WP6 for Dos6 ) could
attach event-related sounds to documents, but not video. And in that case it
is the app (WP8) that handles the sound, not the OS's desktop environment.
Another example: in Office97, using Word97, you can work on a spreadsheet,
using all functions of Excell97. Of course, you're still working within an app
(Word97 in this case).
And this type of stuff does not work if you have Word97 and Quattro8
installed, it only works with Excell97.

My point being: if you want a document with text (duh!) and a graph from a
spreadsheet, you need two applications: the word processor and the spreadsheet
application to make the graph and then cut&paste from.
In BeOS you just work with one document, not two applications (AFAIK).

Please educate me where needed !

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From: rjerant@no_spam,austin.rr.com                     19-Nov-99 15:01:06
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: (No subject)

From: rjerant@no_spam,austin.rr.com (Rich Jerant)

On 19 Nov 1999 14:32:42 GMT, [e-mail] (Ron Gibson) wrote:

>For the record let me state that I'm clueless about C. It looks like
>voodoo to me.  FORTRAN, BASIC, I understand.  C, not.
>
>Think it's possible to port the recently released open source code for a
>LINUX SoundBlaster Live to OS/2 and make it work?
>
>I just compiled the driver yesterday and it works fine, but no bells and
>whistles of course.
Yea it should be easier than porting from Win95/98 source. But I would
wait a few more weeks, the folks at RedHat tell me  "a cleaned up
version should be out soon that gets rid of a lot of the
windows-esque pain and obfuscation."

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From: [e-mail]                             19-Nov-99 15:08:09
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Open Source SBLive code

From: [e-mail] (Ron Gibson)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:49:50, "Terry Haimann" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> >For the record let me state that I'm clueless about C. It looks like
> >voodoo to me.  FORTRAN, BASIC, I understand.  C, not.
> >
> >Think it's possible to port the recently released open source code for a
> >LINUX SoundBlaster Live to OS/2 and make it work?
> >
> >I just compiled the driver yesterday and it works fine, but no bells and
> >whistles of course.

> Yes, as long as it doesn't call any specific unix routines, procedures or
> programs.  And if it accesses any files, remember to change the back-slash
to
> a forward-slash.

Well  wouldn't know what was specific to UNIX and what wasn't. I guess it
would take some sort of translator or manual tranlation and an OS/2 C
compiler.

OK. Some of you guys that are C gurus get going and post it on Hobbes :-)

                      email: [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                19-Nov-99 17:04:13
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: (No subject)

From: radu <[e-mail]>

Take a look at this:
 http://www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4387.html
Radu

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From: [e-mail]                               15-Nov-99 00:39:03
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: Can't print with spooler on Optra 40

From: [e-mail]

Buddy & Chuck,
    Thanks for the tip!  I deleted the driver, reinstalled, and
now everything works as desired!
Wes Aman

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Chuck McKinnis <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Had a similar SYS3175 in PMSPOOL.  Deleted all printers and
drivers and
> re-installed.  Be sure and reboot after deleting each printer
and its
> driver to clean up everything.
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > Running Warp V 4.0 with FP 12; Lexmark Optra 40.  When
> > attempting to print a file with the spooler enabled, I get a
> > SYS3175 in PMSPOOL.EXE @ 1cb4bcaf (access violation -
> > 0001:0003bcaf).  Any ideas about what causes this?
> > Wes Aman
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> --
> Chuck McKinnis
> Senior Systems Engineer
> Denver Solutions Group, Inc.
> IBM Business Partner
> IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired)
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                           19-Nov-99 15:28:08
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: about Be

From: [e-mail] (Lorne Sunley)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:01:48, Wim Wauters
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>
> e-frog wrote:
>
> > Wim Wauters ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > : An extra question: did you try that office suite they have ? Supposedly,
> > : they're way of making documents is 'reverse': they work round the
> > : document, rather than what we do: starting various apps to work on parts
> > : (spreadsheet, graphics) of the document, which are than pasted in.
> > Hey, who's "WE"? Don't you know that is how OS/2 is supposed to work?
>
> > We're supposed to work around the document, not the application. That's
> > what the templates are for.
>
> Yep ! I prefer to call them objects (which is probably not correct).
> My favourite WPS trick is to right-click a hard disk folder (or directory)
and
> select 'create other', after which a dialog shows up saying 'Peer WPS
> Directory Class': cool !
>
> > Wanna new word processing file? Don't start up WordPro, rip off a WordPro
> > document template, drag 'n drop it to start a new document.
>
> This is where you prove my point: you start a "word processing file", which
of
> course starts your "word processor" of choice.
> Supposedly in BeOS, you never 'see' the 'wordprocessor', your desktop just
> 'knows' how to handle 'document objects'. And if you install some video
codec
> for BeOS, every application in BeOS will then be able to handle that
> particular video format. So you can simply cut&paste a video or sound into
> your document.
> I seem to remember WordPerfect 8 for Win32 (or even WP6 for Dos6 ) could
> attach event-related sounds to documents, but not video. And in that case it
> is the app (WP8) that handles the sound, not the OS's desktop environment.
> Another example: in Office97, using Word97, you can work on a spreadsheet,
> using all functions of Excell97. Of course, you're still working within an
app
> (Word97 in this case).
> And this type of stuff does not work if you have Word97 and Quattro8
> installed, it only works with Excell97.
>
> My point being: if you want a document with text (duh!) and a graph from a
> spreadsheet, you need two applications: the word processor and the
spreadsheet
> application to make the graph and then cut&paste from.
> In BeOS you just work with one document, not two applications (AFAIK).
>
> Please educate me where needed !
>

This sounds much the same as the "OpenDoc" product that
was supported with OS/2 Warp 4 GA. You can install it and the
OpenDoc multimedia support.

I believe this was also a project for the MAC OS but both
IBM and Apple dropped development on the project.

Lorne Sunley


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From: [e-mail]                        19-Nov-99 16:18:22
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: first look at BEOS: Gee !

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:11:38 +0000, Wim Wauters
<[e-mail]> wrote:
> > In the presentation of the GNOME project, the target is clearly defined :
> > Deliver an UI modeled after the OS/2 WPS. Achieving a WinSomething clone
will
> > be a failure.
> > Yes, we, OS/2 users are lacking the WPS everytime we try to switch to
another
> > OS
>
> And I wondered why exactly I favor Gnome over KDE !! Unfortunatedly all
> Linux-heads around here favor KDE (I guess they like UNIX as well), so they
> simply do not see my point. Ah well, one can only try.

GNOME, while I currently prefer it over KDE, isn't really much like the
OS/2 UI either.  It still uses Windows-style mouse bindings, Windows-style
cascading menus, a Windows-style task layout -- with no apparent way to
change any of the above -- and is still fundamentally a task-oriented,
rather than object-oriented, interface design.

It also suffers from some annoying bugs and instabilities...

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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                        19-Nov-99 16:34:16
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: Fixpack 42

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 06:31:19 -0800, Gregory Carvalho <[e-mail]>
wrote:
> Is Fixpack 42 the latest available for OS/2 Warp Connect 3.0? In the
> docs it states it is for the server products. Fixpack 40 is the most
> recent which references Warp Connect.

Correct.  However, you _can_ fool the FixPak into installing on
Warp 3/Warp Connect, by editing your SYSLEVEL file so it reports
itself as Warp Server.

There's a REXX script on Hobbes (I think it's called "b.cmd") which
does this automatically.  Try doing a search.

IBM does not support this, of course.
--
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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                        19-Nov-99 16:46:13
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Re: (No subject)

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:04:27 +0200, radu <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Take a look at this:
>  http://www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4387.html

Actually, I think you mean
  http://www.os2ss.com/warpcast/wc4399.html


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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                        19-Nov-99 16:38:10
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 14:29:29
Subj: Open source Creative sound drivers was Re: (No subject)

From: [e-mail] (Alex Taylor)

On 19 Nov 1999 14:32:42 GMT, Ron Gibson <[e-mail]> wrote:
> For the record let me state that I'm clueless about C. It looks like
> voodoo to me.  FORTRAN, BASIC, I understand.  C, not.
>
> Think it's possible to port the recently released open source code for a
> LINUX SoundBlaster Live to OS/2 and make it work?
>
> I just compiled the driver yesterday and it works fine, but no bells and
> whistles of course.

It should certainly be possible, inasmuch as the Linux driver reveals
the necessary programming details.

Much of the actual code would no doubt have to be rewritten, though,
as drivers rely heavily on hooking into the kernel, and Linux has a very
different kernel architecture than OS/2.

AFAIK, anyway.  I do know C, but I know virtually nothing about low-level
programming like kernels and device drivers.

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 [e-mail]   http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex
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From: [e-mail]                 19-Nov-99 17:16:04
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:01
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.5 steals focus

From: [e-mail] (Ken Walter)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:09:37, [e-mail] wrote:

>In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes:
>>Dale Erwin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>>Object Desktop gives me 4 virtual desktops.  If I have Netscape
>>>Communicator 4.5 open in one and try to do something in aother,
>>>each time I close a window in the other desktop, NC4.5 steals
>>>the focus and pops me back into its desktop.
>>>
>>>Is there some setting somewhere that can turn this off, or is
>>>this a bug?  It is really aggravating sometimes.
>>>--
>>>Dale Erwin
>>>Santa Fe, New Mexico
>>>
>>
>>I am not hearing good things about OD's VDs, so I might
>>check if one of the other ones (Megadesk used to work very
>>well here) solves this.
>
>I've been using OD 2 Pro under Warp 4 FP10 for awhile without
>seeing anything like this.  You might want to go to the OS Control
>Panel Properties...select Virtual Desktop and then select <none> for
>"Action on Off-screen window activation".  This might provide a fix.
>
>It is also possible that you have NC 4.5 designated as a "locked" window.
>These are programs which will appear on each virtual desktop so it would
>appear to follow you to each desktop.  This can be set from the second page
of
>the Virtual Desktop tab in the OD Control Panel properties screen.
>
>Hope you find a solution.
>
>Jeff
>
>
It has nothing to do with Communicator.  I have sen it on my system.
When you close a window the "focus" must go somewhere.
With OD it seems to go to undesirable places.  You just notice it more
when windows on are on different desktops.
Maybe the Z-order of windows on other desktops should be below
all the window on the current desktop.  That is not the case now.

Ken Walter

Remove -zamboni to reply
All the above is hearsay and the opinion of no one in particular

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From: [e-mail]                              19-Nov-99 12:47:19
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:01
Subj: Re: ROLLER GARAGE DOORS

From: [e-mail]

Martin Nisshagen wrote:
>
> Jeff Welton [Mail City Services] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>
> » To the Spammer:
> ╗
> » You may think this is a clever way to get people to
> That said I also think this is yet another example of why one should
> use a www-browser for browsing web pages, and not for reading news and
> mail.
Why not just turn off JavaScript?  It's a simple solution to these
problems and easily allows one to access the Web from a Usenet
post.  Ninety-nine percent of all JavaScript crapplets are pieces
of shite that slow down the connection anyway.

Steven

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From: [e-mail]                 19-Nov-99 08:47:03
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:01
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: [e-mail] (Raphael Tennenbaum)

[e-mail] (andrew g) wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:40:08, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Is there an offline news reader for warp 3? or even an offline mail reader?
>
>I started with yarn and souper, then vsoup. This is a really stable
>and reliable text mode setup. But it's a bitch to configure and you
>have to be patient.

Not if you follow the fairly simple instructions OS/2 e-Zine
ran a couple years ago:

    http://www.os2ezine.com/v1n8/yarnsoup.htm


--
Ray Tennenbaum        '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com
(coming to you via Soup & Yarn)

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From: [e-mail]                                19-Nov-99 12:33:14
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:01
Subj: Re: Startup Folder Problem

From: Kenneth Kahn <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> Thank you fellows.  -- Its been so long since I've had a problem with OS2,
> that I've forgotten how to fix it when something does go wrong.
>
> Somehow I deleted the statement to restart the startup folder and never
> thought to check it.

If you don't have the RESTARTOBJECTS statement at all, it should default to
RESTARTOBJECTS=YES.

Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author)
Internet : [e-mail]
   Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS
      VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10


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From: [e-mail]                           19-Nov-99 13:33:22
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:01
Subj: Re: ATX motherboards

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <[e-mail]>, on 11/19/99 at 09:22 AM,
   "David T. Johnson" <[e-mail]> said:

> I forgot to answer your question.  I have OS/2 v4 with fixpak 12 and
> device driver fixpack 1.  This setup works fine.  OS/2 v4 has supported
> APM for ATX boards since it was released in 1996 but I cannot tell you
> how good or bad it works downlevel.  Fixpack 12 and device driver
> fixpack 1 seem to be very good and I would highly recommend installing
> these.

I have the same software on my ThinkPad 390E. I have no problem with OS/2
on it and it is essentially an ATX motherboard in that it will not reboot
after a power failure if the battery is not installed. (I remove it in
favor of a second hard drive when in the office and sometimes on the road
in motels, etc.) I have no problems after either a timed or hardware
suspend.

On the other hand, I have a machine at home for my wife which is ATX and
which also runs OS/2 fine with a standard installation. Most of the time,
it is running WIn98, unfortunately, since my wife won't switch from the
software she uses for everthing, Claris Works for Windows 98. (This is a
port of an Apple program to Win 98 and what she learned on as a teacher.
The School Board sent her and other non-computer literate teachers to a
class for Claris Works. She won't budge.) On neither system can I get it
to reboot after a power failure, inadvertent hardware shutdown, etc. no
matter what I tell BIOS to do.

--
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---------------
Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [e-mail]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67
Aut Pax Aut Bellum
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From: [e-mail]                                  19-Nov-99 19:00:10
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:01
Subj: Re: A few nightmares with Corel Linux, it screwed up the boot process.

From: [e-mail] (Matthew Haley)

On 19 Nov 1999 12:12:05 -0600, Michel Catudal <[e-mail]> wrote:
> I would need to restore sanity to my PC and still be able to use Corel
Linux.
>
> Anyone know the structure of Corel Linux? meaning the files where I have to
do the
> cleanup, how I switch it to boot to the console instead of that ridiculous
graphic boot
> like one can accidentally install under RedHat or SuSE.

First off, Corel Linux is based on Debian GNU/Linux.

On my Debian 2.1 system, the default runlevel is 2:

In /etc/inittab:

# The default runlevel.
id:2:initdefault:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

From what I've read (I don't run X), for a graphical login the
default runlevel is 3. Switching the default runlevel to 2 should
put you at a console login.

> It also installed a lot of usseless garbage like pmcia (On a desktop????)

Hmmm, Debian asks after the base system is installed if you want to
remove the PMCIAWhatever package if it looks like you don't need it.

> and some communication stuff that I don't use. It turns out that the boot is
as long
> as that of NT. I'm sure the winblows users will find themselves right at
home here.

When booting my system, the most time consuming part is the CD-ROM driver.
But, I've also rebuilt my kernel with only required drivers etc so
it could just be looking for a lot of hardware that doesn't exist.

> My PC isn't hooked up to anything for the moment. I do have an ethernet card
for future
> use.

Could detection of you ethernet card cause a prolonged boot? I don't know.


--

Now Showing... Debian GNU/Linux 2.1
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Matthew Haley <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail]                          19-Nov-99 18:16:03
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:01
Subj: Re: Fast file searches?

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:00:08, [e-mail] (Annie K.) a ┌crit
dans un message:

> On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:40:43, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Aside from buying new hardware what are people doing to speed up simple
> > file searches?
>
>  DIR <whatever> /S at a command line works for me. I guarantee it'll be
> faster than "find," at least on HPFS.

I admit I'll use DIR/S (or DIR/SU, under 4OS2, even better 'cause the
output is briefer) some of the time, but FileStar/2 has a very nice File
Find feature, that will do wildcard searches across multiple drives and
present the results in directly useful output.

But there's a built-in OS/2 function, \OS2\APPS\PMSEEK.EXE (part of the
optional utilities election under Selective Install, I believe) that ain't
half bad, and will also find text inside files in many situations.

You can even assign it to the Find File button on your Warp Center bar with
this entry in CONFIG.SYS:

SET SCFINDUTILITY=c:\os2\apps\pmseek.exe

--

Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                       19-Nov-99 14:14:15
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:02
Subj: Re: A few nightmares with Corel Linux, it screwed up the boot process.

From: "Daniel" <[e-mail]>

I had the same problem, so what I did was removed part of lilo, it is in the
man page.  I *think* it was lilo -d  and then when boot manager came up, if I
choose corel, I would have to type linux in at a prompt to boot linux, then
corel would continue to load, but hell better than having no os/2 boot
manager.
It is the part in the man page about returning the MBR to the last known
thing, kinda like a undelete!
g-luck
Daniel

On 19 Nov 1999 12:12:05 -0600, Michel Catudal wrote:

>I burned a CD and installed Corel Linux on the 2nd drive.
>
>It worked out OK as for the install is concerned but I came to a schock when
I
>realized that the install would never ask me how I want it to boot. It turns
>out that it installed it's own boot on the MBR I would think and to go to
OS/2
>I have to go to a tedious process. My boot manager works well, I don't need
some
>graphic junk boot loader.
>
>I would need to restore sanity to my PC and still be able to use Corel Linux.
>
>Anyone know the structure of Corel Linux? meaning the files where I have to
do the
>cleanup, how I switch it to boot to the console instead of that ridiculous
graphic boot
>like one can accidentally install under RedHat or SuSE.
>It also installed a lot of usseless garbage like pmcia (On a desktop????)
>and some communication stuff that I don't use. It turns out that the boot is
as long
>as that of NT. I'm sure the winblows users will find themselves right at home
here.
>My PC isn't hooked up to anything for the moment. I do have an ethernet card
for future
>use.
>
>My system has Winblows 98 and OS/2 (E:) on the first drive (8.4G)
>On the second drive (14G) I have 3G for Corel Linux and the rest for SuSE
Linux.
>
>
>--
>Tann┌ du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
>C'est l'temps d'essayer Linux
>http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
>We have software, food, music, news, search,
>history, electronics and genealogy pages.



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From: [e-mail]                               19-Nov-99 12:12:02
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:02
Subj: A few nightmares with Corel Linux, it screwed up the boot process.

From: Michel Catudal <[e-mail]>

I burned a CD and installed Corel Linux on the 2nd drive.

It worked out OK as for the install is concerned but I came to a schock when I
realized that the install would never ask me how I want it to boot. It turns
out that it installed it's own boot on the MBR I would think and to go to OS/2
I have to go to a tedious process. My boot manager works well, I don't need
some
graphic junk boot loader.

I would need to restore sanity to my PC and still be able to use Corel Linux.

Anyone know the structure of Corel Linux? meaning the files where I have to do
the
cleanup, how I switch it to boot to the console instead of that ridiculous
graphic boot
like one can accidentally install under RedHat or SuSE.
It also installed a lot of usseless garbage like pmcia (On a desktop????)
and some communication stuff that I don't use. It turns out that the boot is
as long
as that of NT. I'm sure the winblows users will find themselves right at home
here.
My PC isn't hooked up to anything for the moment. I do have an ethernet card
for future
use.

My system has Winblows 98 and OS/2 (E:) on the first drive (8.4G)
On the second drive (14G) I have 3G for Corel Linux and the rest for SuSE
Linux.


--
Tanné du plantage avec Ti-Mou?
C'est l'temps d'essayer Linux
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.

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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               19-Nov-99 20:10:01
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:02
Subj: Re: first look at BEOS: Gee !

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: Christian Hennecke <[e-mail]>

Alex Taylor schrieb:
> GNOME, while I currently prefer it over KDE, isn't really much like the
> OS/2 UI either.  It still uses Windows-style mouse bindings, Windows-style
> cascading menus, a Windows-style task layout -- with no apparent way to
> change any of the above -- and is still fundamentally a task-oriented,
> rather than object-oriented, interface design.
>
> It also suffers from some annoying bugs and instabilities...

Oh my... Geez, it's mostly alpha software under heavy development! You
can't expect it to be stable. And BTW, you can change the systems
behaviour almost any way you want. Ever tried the different themes for
GTK and Enlightenment?
GNOME surely has to go a long way to become something WPS alike.

Christian Hennecke
--
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: [e-mail]                              19-Nov-99 19:10:28
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:02
Subj: Re: USR modem [performance problem]

From: [e-mail]

Hello,  I think Annie K. has the right idea about the AT&F1.

This is what I have always used for most all Sportsters ( too
cheap to get a Courier) with good results.  The &Fn commands
are used to set the modem to a factory template.  If you use
&F, then it is the same as &F0 which gives a generalized
template, but what you really want is the &F1 which gives
hardware flow control.  My string in DOIP - Modem Info,
Init string 2 looks like this:   &f1s11=55
When the &f1 is executed, it overides all of the stuff
in string 1, re-setting the modem to factory preset hdwe. flow.
Then register s11 is set to 55ms pause between tones (the
default is 70ms) while dialing.

The other thing to check is your serial port speed; it must
be 57600 unless you are using SIO.   Otherwise, you will
be deviled with I/O errors.

Be aware that this advice is based on my experience with
a V.90 Sportster, but could easily apply to the V.90 Courier.

Good luck,  Howard


On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 00:58:50, "Wayne Bickell"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 08:23:22 +0900, Wayne Bickell wrote:
>
> :>:>:>I don't know if your phone lines are the same as ours here (Aus) but I
> :>:>:>have a USR V Everything (X2) and Injoy and my strings are a bit
different-
> :>:>:> AT&F
> :>:>:>
> :>:>:> AT&D2&C1X4V1Q0S7=70S10=250&M4&B1&H1&R2
> :>:>:>
> :>:>:>I don't get any errors, (so far anyhow) and I have been running this
for
> :>:>:>about a year now. Maybe it will work on yours too.
> :>:>:>
> :>:>:>Richard Prytula, Melbourne, Australia
> :>:>:>([e-mail])
> :>
> :>I'm using this string right now. I'm still connected at 49333
> :>but something is deifferent!!!! Web pages are loading
> :>mucho faster!!!
> :>
> :>Are we getting somewhere? :-)
>
> Sigh, apparantly we aren't getting anywhere... fast!
>
> I just tried a small experiment downloading an FTP file
> in Warp and BeOS. The only time delay was booting
> between OS/2 and BeOS (Twice,  just to make sure)
> On average I was getting 5.1kbytes/second in Be and
> 1.6 kbytes/second in Warp. This was at the same
> connect speed of 49333. I can only assume (Since I
> have fcs checking off in Injoy) that the fcs errors were
> slowing down the download.
>
> Using Be to surf the web and download files makes
> using OS/2 a bit pointless! I would *rather* use OS/2
> though since it was an OS/2 file I was downloading :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Wayne
>
> PS. I was using Netscape 2.02 in Warp and NetPositive
> in Be.
>
>
>
> ******************************************************
> Wayne Bickell
> Tokyo, Japan
> [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                               19-Nov-99 19:27:28
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:02
Subj: DeviceID => Physical device table?

From: Jim MacLaurin <[e-mail]>

I've seen, somewhere, a table relating device id's (as reported by RMVIEW)
to physical devices. Anybody know where this correlation table is? (I've got a
noname NIC).

--
//**  Jim MacLaurin  [e-mail]  **//


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From: [e-mail]                            19-Nov-99 19:33:22
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 16:52:02
Subj: Re: Downloading files

From: Alan Beagley <[e-mail]>

The fTP component of the EMTEC suite will resume interrupted downloads:

 http://www.emtec.com/ens/index.html


Netscape Communicator 4.61 also seems to be capable of resuming a
download as long as you do not exit from NS in the meantime.

Alan


"David I. Smith" wrote:
>
> My ISP only allows me to be logged on for an hour at a time.  Because of
> this, I am precluded from downloading large files.
>
> Is there by chance any software available that will enable me partialy
> to download a file, then disconnect, then reconnect and resume the
> download.  Such software is available for Windows 95, but I don't know
> about OS/2.
>
> Please e-mail me any responses.  Thank you.

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From: [e-mail]                                 19-Nov-99 22:40:28
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 20:18:03
Subj: Re: Fast file searches?

From: [e-mail] (David LaRue)

  DIR is much faster than PMSeek.  CPU speed makes some difference.  HD speed
matters most of all.  SCSI will generally beat IDE.  It is also sometimes
faster if
the request you made is still in the cache.

  For me, a drive with 140,000 files takes 19 secs with the DIR /s method (to
a
file).  PMSeek takes 29 secs.  Both are still very fast.  This was on my
PIII-450
and 9GB 10,000RPM HPFS drive.  This type of search problem varies greatly with

how well your computer is made.  A low cache, or other bottle neck, will slow
a
system down a bit.  I'm not sure how FAT compares to HPFS.  I haven't run one
on a HD in years.

  YMMV,

  David



In <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Annie K.) writes:
>On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:40:43, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Aside from buying new hardware what are people doing to speed up simple
>> file searches?
>
> DIR <whatever> /S at a command line works for me. I guarantee it'll be
>faster than "find," at least on HPFS.
>
>--
>Klaatu barada nikto

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From: [e-mail]                               19-Nov-99 22:40:08
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 20:18:03
Subj: IBM Direct mail-order number?

From: [e-mail]  (R.W. Hutchinson)

    Anyone remember what it is?
Thanks!
--------------------------------------------------------------
"I would predict that there are far greater mistakes waiting
to be made by someone with your obvious talent for it."
Orac to Vila. [City at the Edge of the World.]
-----------------------------------------------
R.W. Hutchinson. | [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                 19-Nov-99 20:28:23
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 21:29:19
Subj: Re: Fast file searches?

From: peter volsted <[e-mail]>

hi

> "Annie K." wrote:
-----

>  DIR <whatever> /S at a command line works for me. I guarantee it'll be
> faster than "find," at least on HPFS.

/f will further increase the speed

good luck

peter

>

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From: [e-mail]                          20-Nov-99 08:00:00
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 21:29:19
Subj: Re: USR modem [performance problem]

From: "Wayne Bickell" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:10:56 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

:>Hello,  I think Annie K. has the right idea about the AT&F1.
:>
:>This is what I have always used for most all Sportsters ( too
:>cheap to get a Courier) with good results.  The &Fn commands
:>are used to set the modem to a factory template.  If you use
:>&F, then it is the same as &F0 which gives a generalized
:>template, but what you really want is the &F1 which gives
:>hardware flow control.  My string in DOIP - Modem Info,
:>Init string 2 looks like this:   &f1s11=55
:>When the &f1 is executed, it overides all of the stuff
:>in string 1, re-setting the modem to factory preset hdwe. flow.
:>Then register s11 is set to 55ms pause between tones (the
:>default is 70ms) while dialing.
:>
:>The other thing to check is your serial port speed; it must
:>be 57600 unless you are using SIO.   Otherwise, you will
:>be deviled with I/O errors.
:>
:>Be aware that this advice is based on my experience with
:>a V.90 Sportster, but could easily apply to the V.90 Courier.
:>
:>Good luck,  Howard

I'm running it now with ATZ as the first string to reset the modem
then AT&F1 as the second string. It makes no difference. I've
used the strings that NT uses too, with no avail.

Anyway, I'm convinced there's nothing wrong with the modem
because both BeoS and NT rock with it and it can't be my ISP
for the same reason. It can't be a problem with Injoy either as
I get the same problems using DOIP or I-Link.

So, where does this leave us? The OS? A problem in TCP/IP?
Probably, my TCP/IP stack is 4.02t and ppp.exe is 1.18b. I'll
try and see if I've cocked up applying the TCP/IP upgrade or
something.

The best USR/3COM support could do was point me to the
modem upgrade page, even though I'd already told them I'd
upgraded the modem :-)

Press onward...

Cheers

Wayne

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Wayne Bickell
Tokyo, Japan
[e-mail]
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           Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2
  Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK)  + FixPak 9
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From: [e-mail]                              19-Nov-99 23:23:21
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 21:29:19
Subj: Plextor RW

From: [e-mail]

Hi all
Information is needed for Plextor PXW4220R or PXW8220R
if they work under Warp 4.0.
Anton Laux


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                 19-Nov-99 22:43:00
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 21:29:19
Subj: Re: first look at BEOS

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 19:13:57 +0100, Martin Nisshagen
><[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>Alex Taylor [@Home Network Canada] -> comp.os.os2.misc:
>>
>>╗ I really wish we could get IBM to port SOM/WPS to Linux... unfortunately,
>>╗ it would be a large job, and IBM seems reluctant to promote Linux as a
>>╗ desktop OS.
>>
>>It would be great with SOM/WPS released for free with source (that way you
>>could port it to any system, including BeOS, NT and other unices like *BSD).

>>
>>Besides being able to port it I think i could also benefit OS/2 with SOM/WPS
>>as open source as I suspect that the current quality of the code is the
reason
>>for some of instability of the system (even if I'm sure some here will
>>strongly deny that OS/2 can lock up).
>
>Unfortunately, WPS certainly does here, frequently these days :(
>
>>If IBM is the sole company with the copyright for SOM/WPS (which I think it
>>is) it should perhaps be possible if many people would start a strong
campaign
>>at IBM. They doesn't seem totally unfriendly with the open source model, and
>>as their commercial interest in SOM/WPS doesn't seem so strong today I don't
>>think they would see it as a big loss if they lost the control of the
source.
>
>Think again. Not going to happen. Also bear in mind that SOM is not
>only used by OS/2. You'l find it on several other of IBM's own OSs
>(AIX, and IIRC OS/400), as well as others, inc. MacOS (certainly pre -
>X).
>
>That apart, Linux certainly has no more (actually, a lot fewer) apps
>available than OS/2 and would seem an absolutely ludicrous migration
>path from OS/2 to me.
>
>>╗ Back to BeOS, I've been thinking of giving it a try... mainly in the hopes
>>╗ of being able to play DVDs (in the future), and very recent video clips.
>>╗ I'm also eager to try out the GUI, as user interface design is a hobby of
>>
>>I would also like to try BeOS if it's possible to download some beta or demo
>>of it.
>
>There is a free demo CD available. Be prepared to be extremely
>disappointed. BeOS as a whole is thoroughly derivative, it's no
>innovator of any kind. Basically, it's MacOS (pre-X) on steroids/with
>bells 'n' whistles. As for the GUI, almost unadulterated MacOS (even
>right down to most of the Mac's worst faults). For a "new" OS, I'd
>call it piss-poor. But the majority of Be users seem to come from the
>Win 9x world with no experience or even idea of other OSs and
>therefore most seem delirious with this magic, revolutionary OS... ;-)
>
>
>Ric
>

geez ricsha, you don't have to be THAT negative ! I'd admit to reading
the website, buying the full CD and being disappointed, but : BeOS has
some nice features. Maybe they are just rehashed Mac stuff, but Intel
Users don't get to have Mac stuff, now that our buddy Apple decided
not to give us the NeXT derivatives. Graphics is handled better than OS/2
by a bunch - at the same resolution any graphics look better in BeOS.
Supported hardware is better implemented than OS/2 - change a video
card, poof, system recognizes and reconfigures automatically. Sound
likewise. The midi player is excellent. BeOS has a journaling file system
out of the box. And the most important (to me at least) the BeOS people
are excellent - helpful, personable, excited about their product. They
are trying to produce a commercial product which fills a need in competition
with certain unnamed mobsters, rather than kissing ass and splitting the
take. Rather than making bigtime solution promises which they later disclaim,
they target what they intend to do and attempt to achieve those goals. R4
was a disappointment, R4.5 much better, with luck R5 will do what I want
(Multimedia, which OS/2 is lamentably poor at.) Not once have I read of any
BeOS announcements that they are offering many new products for small
business - for every operating system *except* the one they sold me. Never
have I seen Be develop new versions of BeOS programs for Linux while not
making them available for Be. No one from BeOS has offered to help me
migrate to a less-desirable o.s. in the name of ?? what can it be but
convenience and $$ for them ? There is sort of a warm fuzzy feeling actually
believing
that your os vendor truly *wants* you as a customer. Sometimes it can be
better to own a Chevrolet with good service than a Mercedes where the
dealer makes a point of defecating on you.

The demo CD is $10. One thing you'll notice is that any graphics displays
are *much* sharper, text is better defined, and no MMOS2. The sound
and video systems don't crash the desktop. The midi player, for example,
is just *excellent.* Unicode support is built into the system. For people
who use foreign languages this promises to be a boon. For me one of the
few flaws in OS/2 is the poor screen and text display . .  wonder if Display
Ghostscript could become a new OS/2 hobbiest project ?

BeOS is okay - at what they are attempting to do they seem to be
fairly successful. Maybe this is all old hat to Macintosh users, but on Intel
OS/2 seems pretty dated multimedia-wise while windows  is . . . ugh. It
probably makes a better companion to OS/2 than to Windows - OS/2 lacks
more in playtoys where Be is strong, but has better usability for serious
work. Get the best of both worlds - BeOS for fun, OS/2 for work.


--
härad ængravvåd

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From: [e-mail]                                   19-Nov-99 21:23:22
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 21:29:19
Subj: Re: A few nightmares with Corel Linux, it screwed up the boot process.

From: John Hasler <[e-mail]>

Michel Catudal writes:
> I would need to restore sanity to my PC and still be able to use Corel
> Linux.  Anyone know the structure of Corel Linux? meaning the files where
> I have to do the cleanup, how I switch it to boot to the console instead
> of that ridiculous graphic boot like one can accidentally install under
> RedHat or SuSE.

Why don't you just install Debian?  It doesn't sound like you want any of
Corel's "improvements" anyway.  Just get the real thing.
--
John Hasler
[e-mail] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: [e-mail]                     20-Nov-99 00:14:22
  To: All                                               19-Nov-99 21:29:19
Subj: Re: OFFLINE NEWSREADER?

From: [e-mail] (Glen D)

On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:26:08, [e-mail] (andrew g) wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 18:40:08, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Is there an offline news reader for warp 3? or even an offline mail
reader?
>
> I started with yarn and souper, then vsoup. This is a really stable
> and reliable text mode setup. But it's a bitch to configure and you
> have to be patient.
>
> Then I installed (and bought, my mistake!) PMInews.  It's easy to use
> and all the menu options are in the most obvious places, but it's not
> stable. It would just spontaneously end with one of those cryptic
> maggoty white "A program encountered a problem and could not continue"
> dialog boxes we all know and hate.
>
> Right now I'm trying (and liking) ProNews beta 1.5, available from
> Hobbes (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu).
>
> It hasn't crashed on me yet.
>
> Regards,
>
> andrew
>

Do you know if development on ProNews is still going?  I can't find
Panacea's website anywhere.

Glen D
-<remove Z from my e-mail Address>-

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