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From: [e-mail]                                   17-Sep-99 03:19:15
  To: All                                               18-Sep-99 01:08:04
Subj: NS4.61b2--sys3175 has evaporated

From: [e-mail]   (Joe Kovacs)

The NS4.61b traps with sys3175 are gone here.  The
popuplog.os2 stays perfectly clear of traps due to NS.

I had a lot of traps with sys3175, with NS4.61b1, Java
1.01(?). Warp 4, FP11, stock tcp/ip and mptn and all.

Now it's still the same Warp 4.11, stock tcp/ip.  And it's
NS4.61b2, Java 1.18 and the mptn has been upgraded with
wr08620. Somewhere along the way the SYS3175 traps evaporated.

The swap file has been set to 10240 B for a month now and I
catch hints that it lifts off that when NS starts, but I
haven't seen it.  It stays right on that when NS etc. are
running, and if it ever does lift off, it goes right back
below it.

All very nice.  Several weeks ago the swapper ran at 80--95 MB
and wasn't much coming down.

IBM PS/2 9595, Type 4 P60, 64 MB of RAM, XGA-2 running an IBM
8514 monitor.  One SCSI w/cache, 2 main HDs, swapper alone on
a third.

And that's all the correlation I have, to present.


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]                      17-Sep-99 14:32:07
  To: All                                               18-Sep-99 01:08:04
Subj: Re: PCMCIA on a Dell laptops--thanks for help

From: Matthew Shapiro <[e-mail]>

Just a note of thanks to all the folks who contributed the information that
helped me
get my dell-233 inspiron running.  Now it all works--pcmcia modem, video
(1024x768), sound, and parallel port zip-100 drive (which, BTW, is much faster
than with DOS98).  The machine is finally useful and stable.

All I have to figure out now is why I have ghost drives under os/2 and how to
get fat32 access to work properly.

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From: [e-mail]                            17-Sep-99 16:34:15
  To: All                                               18-Sep-99 01:08:05
Subj: Re: JAVA 118 Error Message

From: [e-mail] (Jeffery Swagger)

In <7rs2n4$8kt$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>When I try to install Java 118, I get the following error
>message in the x:\os2\install\wpinstal.log:
>
>   **NULLID** :: Exception -1073741819 returned to
>instthrd.c 538l
>
>Anyone have an idea what the problem is and why this
>seems to prevent the installation of the Java runtime.
>
>OS2 v4 fp11, currently java 117, ns 404,fi 125.
>
>Thanks in advance
>

Yes, just had the same problem yesterday.  Go to your java temp install
directory and look for a file, whose exact name escapes me right now,
but is something like "d_????.cmd".  It's nothing more than about a
half-a-dozen lines of "clfi ?????"  Look for the for the line that has
"WSOD" in it.  About third from the bottom.  Delete it.  Then follow the
instructions in the readme for recovering from a failed installation.
Be sure to reboot.  Re-run install and it should successfully complete.

----
Jeff

   "They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data.  Sometimes they get the
   results they expect, sometimes they don't."
                        From Microsoft TV commercial, 1999.

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From: [e-mail]                                    17-Sep-99 17:55:18
  To: All                                               18-Sep-99 04:37:13
Subj: How to make full set of warp4.0 floppy install disk?

From: "K.K.Cheung" <[e-mail]>

I would like to ask if I can make the full set of floppy isntall disk?
As my notebook don't not come with build-in cd-rom, and I found out that
OS2 can't use pcmcia CD-Rom for installation. In the \diskimgs\os2\35\
directory, there are only first install disk image. How can I found out
the remaining diskes? I'd tried the os2image directory, but the data
file is 1.7Mb, I can't put it into a floppy.

Thank you,

K.K Cheung

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From: [e-mail]                     18-Sep-99 05:27:29
  To: All                                               18-Sep-99 06:00:27
Subj: Re: Netscape 416 Beta2 wrecks Zip association...How to revert D'n'D?

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Buddy Donnelly wrote:

> Are we saying that Netscape requirements will be allowed
> to violate IBM's longstanding rules for WPS programming?

No, what "we" are saying is that using the WPS drag/drop limits
what the application can do while dragging, so we had to choose
between limiting drag/drop capability or limiting functionality in
the browser.  We chose to keep the internal browser functionality
and handle dragging to the WPS ourselves.

> Someone should speak up to protect OS/2 in this regard.

Protect OS/2?  From what?  Producing a browser for the OS/2
platform so that the customers that are funding the continued
existence of the operating system will be able to utilize current
Internet technologies seems to me like the best way to "protect
OS/2"... wouldn't you agree?

> It seems to me that Netscape should be improved ... [snip]

Ok, if you wish to turn this into a Netscape-bashing discussion,
I'll move right along.  I was attempting to provide potentially
information to a user that was having a problem, not open up
the floor for picking apart the entire project.

> to the point where it doesn't crash itself, or OS/2.

Whenever I'm home visiting my parents... before I leave the
house, my mom always tells me to "drive safely".  Of course,
this is completely silly advice, since I obviously would want to
be driving safely anyway.... it's not like I'm going to say, "Oh,
WOW!  I didn't THINK of that!  Thanks, Mom, I will!"  She does
it, however, because she cares about my safety.

On the same token, your advice to us that we produce a
product that doesn't crash is equally frivolous.  Obviously, we
don't want the browser to crash, and we do what we can to
ensure that doesn't happen.  And your "reminder" as such
serves to show that YOU care about the quality of our product
as well.

However, just getting on the road in the car has some level
of danger to it... with the dangers increasing with the duration
and complexity of the drive.  The same is true of developing
a complex piece of software.  (Yes, I realize I've violated the
taboo metaphor of computers and cars, and I apologize for
that.)

> We DON'T have a well-programmed browser, and we
> DON'T have somebody going out and getting plugins for it.

On the former, I'm sorry you feel that way... on the latter, you
can take that up with the development community at large.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                                18-Sep-99 07:45:12
  To: All                                               18-Sep-99 06:00:27
Subj: Netscape 4.61 printing problem

From: [e-mail]   (Baden Kudrenecky)

   I am TOTALLY bafflemated now!  Summarising:

   Everything used to work well.

   Yesterday, I did a Selective Install for MMPM, trying
(foolishly) to get the VB.EXE installed.  I then booted Solaris,
and tried, unsuccessfully, to get my networking going.  When I
re-booted OS/2, had I lost my "Desktop", for some reason, and I
had to build (many hour excursion) a new one.

   I also reinstalled FP_40, as I had done a "Selective
Install", which may have originally screwed up my "Desktop".

   Today, I successfully printed:

copy job \\UNC_name
from EPM
from WebExplorer
from HotJava
from Netscape 2.02
from Netscape 4.61 with another printer driver (IBM Null)

   I cannot print from Netscape 4.61 Beta2 to the Laserjet
driver 30.453.  I have TOTALLY re-installed Netscape 4.61, and
reviewed the printer settings ad nauseam, but the output to file
is continuously '0 bytes'

bafflemated!

baden

[e-mail]
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux

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From: [e-mail]                       16-Sep-99 19:23:11
  To: All                                               18-Sep-99 11:03:05
Subj: Re: Nothing will print !

From: [e-mail] (Chris H Lindley)

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:49:55 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>[e-mail] (Chris H Lindley) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:52:00 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:
>>>Be real careful of Epson printers.  Most modern types are windows
>>>printers.
>>
>>Are you sure?
>
>Yep, I'm sure.  Try to print something on Epson printers from DOS (not
>a dos box) - you cant.
>
>Of course, there are a couple of 'true' printers in the range, but be
>careful.
>
>
>>>Also, having worked on many of them, I can tell you that all but the
>>>most expensive are very badly constructed.  If you -must- buy one,
>>>make doubly sure you get the 3 year warranty option.
>>
>>Well teh 640 is a reasonable printer. Heavy on inkcartridge
>>usage, but pretty fast and good quality.
>
>I'm just saying that you want to make sure you know what you're
>buying.  Make sure you're printer will print from true DOS, not a DOS
>box.  If it won't, its prolly a win printer.  True enough, drivers do
>exist for some win printers and can be used under OS/2, but system
>load is heavy.

Hi,

I'm not disputing this!!  .. and I'm afriad I can;t reboot at the
moment to check it... so take what I say with a pinch of salt:-(

But when I was looking to buy my current printer (640) I got
the poor salesman at PCworld, to reboot all his windoze
machines and boot into DOS. I then took all the printers
that could print from "dir>lpt1" and then decided
which machine I wanted! (Was a close call between
Lexmark 5700 and Epson stlys 640!!

With hindsight I wish i'd have bought the Lexmark!!
But that;s another story!!


Cheers
Chris



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From: [e-mail]                          18-Sep-99 11:27:09
  To: All                                               18-Sep-99 11:03:05
Subj: Re: Netscape 416 Beta2 wrecks Zip association...How to revert D'n'D?

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 05:27:58, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<[e-mail]> a ┌crit dans un message:

> so we had to choose
> between limiting drag/drop capability or limiting functionality in
> the browser.  We chose to keep the internal browser functionality
> and handle dragging to the WPS ourselves.

If that means you're adding back in the standard SOM stuff I'm thrilled.


>
> > Someone should speak up to protect OS/2 in this regard.
>
> Protect OS/2?  From what?  Producing a browser for the OS/2
> platform so that the customers that are funding the continued
> existence of the operating system

(Pardon my french but if "that are funding" refers to the multi-desk buyers
that IBM has chosen to address themselves to, then screw'em. WE here all
paid for and committed to an Operating System, fully expecting a respected
company like IBM to stand behind their half of the transaction. IBM has
chosen to say "screw you" to us, not the other way around.)

> will be able to utilize current Internet technologies seems to me like the
best
> way to "protect OS/2"... wouldn't you agree?

No, not completely.

If the "current Internet technology" means sending news and mail via HTML,
or, worse, dancing noisy pictures, or attaching those dumb "business cards"
nobody has found a legitimate use for, then why waste time on that?

I don't think adding in lots of code for purely Netscape bells and whistles
is ever going to make up for the fact we won't have an identical browser to
what a User on another platform has. Without the most common plugins, for
instance, starting with current Real Audio and Real Media, Shockwave and
Flash, it's dead meat. Or dynamic fonts, which are showing up on more and
more commercial websites, and if your Composer doesn't handle them you're
wasting your time building a Composer for OS/2.


>
> > It seems to me that Netscape should be improved ... [snip]
>
> Ok, if you wish to turn this into a Netscape-bashing discussion,
> I'll move right along.  I was attempting to provide potentially
> information to a user that was having a problem, not open up
> the floor for picking apart the entire project.

Sorry for the tone. I don't mean to be attacking anybody's work, and I know
you're having to work inside some pretty ridiculous-looking parameters,
being in IBM and all. (No offense intended except to the stutified and
unintellectual corporate culture of IBM.)

>
> > to the point where it doesn't crash itself, or OS/2.
>
> Whenever I'm home visiting my parents... before I leave the
> house, my mom always tells me to "drive safely".  Of course,
> this is completely silly advice, since I obviously would want to
> be driving safely anyway.... it's not like I'm going to say, "Oh,
> WOW!  I didn't THINK of that!  Thanks, Mom, I will!"  She does
> it, however, because she cares about my safety.
>
> On the same token, your advice to us that we produce a
> product that doesn't crash is equally frivolous.

No, it's not, because if just ONE of the honchos who makes the larger
decisions reads it and decides that maybe, just maybe, there's a reason to
expand the job you've been given, and does it, then we're all better off,
right?

Netscape/2 crashes, and can even cause the hallowed crash "resistant" OS/2
to crash, or more usually, hang. And building in more functions FIRST
instead of building OUT the bugs that cause it to step on its own tail is
wasting a lot of all our time.

A lot of people prefer NS 2.02 because the final version of that doesn't
cause nearly as much trouble as all the 4.04 versions I've seen. It still
isn't as good as it should have been.

> Obviously, we
> don't want the browser to crash, and we do what we can to
> ensure that doesn't happen.  And your "reminder" as such
> serves to show that YOU care about the quality of our product
> as well.

Of course.

>
> However, just getting on the road in the car has some level
> of danger to it... with the dangers increasing with the duration
> and complexity of the drive.  The same is true of developing
> a complex piece of software.  (Yes, I realize I've violated the
> taboo metaphor of computers and cars, and I apologize for
> that.)

I don't know why it would be "taboo" because I thought it fit this very
well. (And it's nice to correspond with someone whose brain is quick enough
to move sideways and use a metaphor or an analogy to make a point.)



>
> > We DON'T have a well-programmed browser, and we
> > DON'T have somebody going out and getting plugins for it.
>
> On the former, I'm sorry you feel that way...

I'm guessing that you mean you are hoping I don't feel that way about your
final product release?

You surely can't think that the current betas are not seriously
troublesome, can you? I still can't print a page that contains a picture
without the second page becoming strangely magnified, but I'm assuming that
all this gets cleaned up before the GA drop, or at least you'll take a
fresh chop at it.

Although there was a troubling comment here referring to problems with the
In-Joy dialer that suggested y'all weren't going to do anything to fix that
one because you had some kind of schedule to keep. (I don't want it right,
I want it right now?)


> on the latter, you
> can take that up with the development community at large.

No. No. A thousand times: No.

IT IS THE JOB OF IBM to cultivate the plugin developers, not theirs to
cultivate IBM. And the plugins have become STANDARD on the Internet, so
you're not going to have Standard Internet Capabilities without them.


Always a pleasure. No offense is ever intended, because your presence here
can only help us all.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                           18-Sep-99 07:49:11
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 06:48:21
Subj: Re: How to make full set of warp4.0 floppy install disk?

From: Bob Germer <[e-mail]>

On <[e-mail]>, on 09/17/99 at 05:55 PM,
   "K.K.Cheung" <[e-mail]> said:

> I would like to ask if I can make the full set of floppy isntall disk?
> As my notebook don't not come with build-in cd-rom, and I found out that
> OS2 can't use pcmcia CD-Rom for installation. In the \diskimgs\os2\35\
> directory, there are only first install disk image. How can I found out
> the remaining diskes? I'd tried the os2image directory, but the data
> file is 1.7Mb, I can't put it into a floppy.

> Thank you,

> K.K Cheung

RTFM. Or in this case the readme files on the CD.

You sure as hell can put 1.8 megs on a floppy with the utilities included
on the CD. In fact, IBM even provides a command file to automate the
process as much as possible. In an installed Warp 4 system, the ability
read and make copies is part of a complete installation. Why, for example,
do you suppose that xdfloppy.flt is loaded at boot up on a Warp 4 system?
Why do you suppose that xdfcopy.exe is in the os2 subdirectory?


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From: [e-mail]                          18-Sep-99 12:49:08
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 06:48:21
Subj: Re: How to make full set of warp4.0 floppy install disk?

From: [e-mail] ()

There's a batch file to make the install diskettes in the root directory
of the CD. But set aside a weekend when you've got nothing else to do:
Just the base essentials comes out to 40 floppies; the feature installer
and Java engine adds another 56. Networking apps have to be added to
floppy separately from the prodinst.cmd if you need them on floppy. This
is another 16 for tcp/ip and mpts, 8 for Netware, 8-10 for Peer... It
takes a *long* time to make this many floppies, so be sure this is what
you really want to do and that you have enough diskettes on hand.

--Kevin



On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:55:37 +0800, K.K.Cheung <[e-mail]> wrote:
>I would like to ask if I can make the full set of floppy isntall disk?
>As my notebook don't not come with build-in cd-rom, and I found out that
>OS2 can't use pcmcia CD-Rom for installation. In the \diskimgs\os2\35\
>directory, there are only first install disk image. How can I found out
>the remaining diskes? I'd tried the os2image directory, but the data
>file is 1.7Mb, I can't put it into a floppy.
>
>Thank you,
>
>K.K Cheung
>

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From: [e-mail]                                    18-Sep-99 20:30:13
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 06:48:22
Subj: Re: How to make full set of warp4.0 floppy install disk?

From: [e-mail] (Bob Eager)

On Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:22:23, "Juan Manuel Mart¡nez" <no_spam@please>
wrote:

> >I would like to ask if I can make the full set of floppy isntall disk?
> >As my notebook don't not come with build-in cd-rom, and I found out that
> >OS2 can't use pcmcia CD-Rom for installation.

Do you have another machine with about 150MB of space (temporarily)?
Do you have a network link between the two machines?

If so, install a basic OS/2 with NETBIOS access on the other machine.
Then use the remote install procedure; it builds three diskettes which
you then boot on the notebook and it installs over the network...

--
Bob Eager
rde at tavi.co.uk
PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2,
8580*6,
8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT..

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From: [e-mail]                         19-Sep-99 00:25:06
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 06:48:22
Subj: Re: Communicator Startup Bug

From: [e-mail] (Stewart Honsberger)

On 31 Aug 1999 22:47:52 +1200, Jeremy Bowen wrote:
>
>Can anyone point me to a reference to the Communicator 4.61 command
>line options. I wish to create Icons on the desktop for different
>users and have it startup using the correct profile.

Try running "netscape /?". It should give you the parameters.

--
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[e-mail]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [e-mail]                                 18-Sep-99 18:58:07
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 06:48:23
Subj: Re: Netscape 416 Beta2 wrecks Zip association...How to revert D'n'D?

From: [e-mail] (Richard Steiner)

Here in comp.os.os2.beta, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>
spake unto us, saying:

>Buddy Donnelly wrote:
>
>> WE here all paid for and committed to an Operating
>> System, fully expecting a respected company like
>> IBM to stand behind their half of the transaction.
>
>And providing continuing support through free fixpacks is
>exactly how IBM has been doing that.

You are absolutely correct.  IBM might be making some frustrating moves
in my eyes right now regarding the OS/2 client and its future, but their
support for their products (including OS/2 client) is *extremely* good,
at least in terms of providing code fixes.

There are times when I get really frustrated at IBM.  And then I think
of Microsoft and realize how good we have it (in some ways).

--
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
              The Oracle has pondered your question deeply.

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From: [e-mail]                                 19-Sep-99 01:22:15
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 06:48:23
Subj: Re: Netscape 416 Beta2 wrecks Zip association...How to revert D'n'D?

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Richard Steiner) writes:
>Here in comp.os.os2.beta, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>>Buddy Donnelly wrote:
>>
>>> WE here all paid for and committed to an Operating
>>> System, fully expecting a respected company like
>>> IBM to stand behind their half of the transaction.
>>
>>And providing continuing support through free fixpacks is
>>exactly how IBM has been doing that.
>
>You are absolutely correct.  IBM might be making some frustrating moves
>in my eyes right now regarding the OS/2 client and its future, but their
>support for their products (including OS/2 client) is *extremely* good,
>at least in terms of providing code fixes.


IBM has severe classic schizophrenia, that's the only possible answer . . . .

>
>There are times when I get really frustrated at IBM.  And then I think
>of Microsoft and realize how good we have it (in some ways).
>
>--
>   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [e-mail]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
>      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
>              The Oracle has pondered your question deeply.


skål !

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From: [e-mail]                    19-Sep-99 02:47:02
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 06:48:23
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: [e-mail]

I'd interested either way.

We've gota do what we gota do.

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From: [e-mail]                           19-Sep-99 17:49:10
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 18:48:07
Subj: Re: How to make full set of warp4.0 floppy install disk?

From: "Rade Popovic" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:55:37 +0800, K.K.Cheung wrote:

>I would like to ask if I can make the full set of floppy isntall disk?
>As my notebook don't not come with build-in cd-rom, and I found out that
>OS2 can't use pcmcia CD-Rom for installation. In the \diskimgs\os2\35\
>directory, there are only first install disk image. How can I found out
>the remaining diskes? I'd tried the os2image directory, but the data
>file is 1.7Mb, I can't put it into a floppy.
>
>Thank you,
>
>K.K Cheung
>
Hi

Those are xdf images so you will need xdfcopy.exe (which is probably
somewhere on CD so you can make floppies with

xdfcopy <image name> a:

and that is it.

Rascho

------------------------
Hal 9000: "Dave, put those Windows disks down....Dave...DAVE!"


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From: [e-mail]                            19-Sep-99 18:38:25
  To: All                                               19-Sep-99 18:48:07
Subj: Non Y2K bug in OS/2?  :)

From: [e-mail]

I was pleasantly surprised by a Y2K test and OS/2.  While de-bugging a
mail application in an old DOS suite which errored out with a 1980 year
date in 2000, I hit on something curious!

Two boxes, one with a 1992 AMI BIOS and one with a 1996 Award BIOS had
previously checked out as unable to roll the year automatically with
separate hardware testing programs run from a DOS disk..  They,
supposedly, would work with 2K by hand setting the date after midnight.

Lo and behold... during a 12-31-1999 and 23:50 -> clock rollover with
OS/2 Warp 4.0 ... surprise!

      1.) Both boxes auto-rolled..

      2.) Both boxes retained the 01-01-2000 date at the BIOS level ..

      3.) During a power down - restart .. all is still correct...

According to a couple of hardware testing programs run at a pure DOS
level, neither box should have been able to do this..

Are we shortchanging the nice folks at IBM for OS/2 and does it have
some of the intrinsic 'fix-me' in it as of FP8 that some other programs
claim to do at a software level?


--> Sleep well; OS2's still awake! ;)

[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                   19-Sep-99 12:01:12
  To: All                                               20-Sep-99 00:54:18
Subj: Re: How to make full set of warp4.0 floppy install disk?

From: [e-mail] (David Kunz)

Another approach.  I used it on my son's laptop -- it can't have a
floppy and a CD ROM at the same time.  There're 2 below, similar -- I
don't remember which I used.  Both require that you have enough disk
space to hold the installation files and the installed OS/2 system
(can be on different disks -- probably advisable :)).

OSINCDDK - HARD DISK TO HARD DISK INSTALLATION ON LAPTOPS
01/09/97

=======================================================================
                 Hard Disk to Hard Disk Installation on Laptops
=======================================================================

Please Read Entire Document for Full Explanation of Procedures
--------------------------------------------------------------

DESCRIPTION

This document describes the steps necessary to install OS/2 Warp from
the hard drive on laptop systems which cannot use the diskette drive
and CD-ROM drive at the same time.

RESOLUTION

Hard Drive to Hard Drive Installation

1. Start your system with the CD-ROM drive attached and the OS/2 Warp
   CD-ROM in the drive.

2. Make a temporary directory called TEMP; type MD TEMP and
   press Enter.

3. Type

   XCOPY X:\os2image\*.* /S C:\TEMP and press Enter.

   where:

   X: is the CD-ROM drive, and
   C: is a drive containing enough disk space to place
      the images and OS/2.

4. Restart the system with the diskette drive attached.
   Create a DISKCOPY of the OS/2 Warp Diskette 1 by typing
   the following at the command prompt:

     DISKCOPY A: A:

5. With the DISKCOPY of Diskette 1 in the drive, type
   COPY A:\CONFIG.SYS A:\CONFIG.001, then press Enter.

6. Use a text editor to edit the CONFIG.SYS on the new Diskette 1 and
   make the following changes:

   buffers=32
   iopl=yes
   memman=swap,delayswap
   protshell=sysinst1.exe
   set os2_shell=sysinst2.exe C:\temp
   diskcache=D2,LW
   protectonly=yes
   libpath=.;\;\os2\dll;\os2\install;
   ifs=hpfs.ifs /c:64
   pauseonerror=no
   codepage=850
   devinfo=kbd,us,keyboard.dcp
   devinfo=scr,ega,vtbl850.dcp
   device=\dos.sys
   device=\mouse.sys
   set path=\;\os2;\os2\system;\os2\install
   set dpath=\;\os2;\os2\system;\os2\install
   set keys=on
   basedev=ibmkbd.sys
   basedev=ibm1flpy.add
   basedev=ibm1s506.add /A:0 /!bm
   rem basedev=ibm2flpy.add
   rem basedev=ibm2adsk.add
   rem basedev=ibm2scsi.add
   rem basedev=ibmint13.i13
   basedev=os2dasd.dmd
   device=\testcfg.sys
   basedev=xdfloppy.flt

   rem set os2_shell=cdinst.exe
   rem set saveconnect=1
   rem set cdrominst=1
   rem ifs=cdfs.ifs /q
   rem basedev=aha152x.add
   rem basedev=aha154x.add
   rem basedev=aha164x.add
   rem basedev=aha174x.add
   rem basedev=aic7870.add
   rem basedev=btscsi.add
   rem basedev=fd16-700.add
   rem basedev=fd8xx.add
   rem basedev=fd7000ex.add
   rem basedev=dpt20xx.add
   rem basedev=dac960.add
   rem basedev=flashpt.add
   rem basedev=ipsraid.add
   rem basedev=ql10os2.add
   rem basedev=ql40os2.add
   rem basedev=ql510.add
   rem basedev=chincds1.flt
   rem basedev=hitcds1.flt
   rem basedev=neccds1.flt
   rem basedev=sonycds1.flt
   rem basedev=toshcds1.flt
   rem basedev=ibmidecd.flt
   rem basedev=tmv1scsi.add
   rem basedev=sony535.add
   rem basedev=lms206.add
   rem 154569 basedev=lms205.add
   rem basedev=mitfx001.add
   rem basedev=sbcd2.add
   rem device=\os2cdrom.dmd
   rem set os2_shell=cdboot.exe
   rem set oemprogram=\ibminst\npconfig.exe
   rem set exitwhendone=1

   Save and Exit the file.

7. You can begin the OS/2 installation with the following:

   - OS/2 Warp Installation Diskette
   - OS/2 Warp Diskette 1, modified as in step 6
   - Diskette images in the \TEMP directory on the hard disk

   Insert the OS/2 Installation Diskette in drive A: and restart
   the system. When prompted for Diskette 1, use the modified copy.

warp4
______________________________________________________________________
IBM disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including
without limitation, warranties of fitness and merchantability with
respect to the information in this document. By furnishing this
document, IBM grants no licenses to any related patents or copyrights.
Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 IBM Corporation. Any trademarks and product
or brand names referenced in this document are the property of their
respective owners. Consult your product manuals for complete trademark
information.


OSINHDLT - HARD DISK TO HARD DISK INSTALLATION FOR LAPTOPS WITH
SWAPPABLE CD-ROM AND DISKETTE DRIVES
11/14/96
=======================================================================
Hard Disk to Hard Disk Installation for Laptops with Swappable CD-ROM
and Diskette Drives
=======================================================================

Please Read Entire Document for Full Explanation of Procedures
--------------------------------------------------------------
DESCRIPTION

This document describes the steps necessary to install OS/2 Warp from
the hard drive on laptop systems which cannot use the diskette drive
and CD-ROM drive at the same time.

RESOLUTION

Hard Disk to Hard Disk Installation

1. Start your system with the CD-ROM drive attached and the OS/2 Warp
   CD-ROM in the drive.

2. Make a temporary directory on the hard drive called TEMP; type MD
   TEMP, then press Enter.

3. Type

   XCOPY X:\OS2IMAGE\*.* /S C:\TEMP and press Enter.

   where:

   X: is the CD-ROM drive, and
   C: is a drive that contains enough disk space to place
      the images and OS/2 (approximately 190 MB for OS/2 Warp 4).

4. Type the following:

   MD C:\DISK1, then press Enter
   XCOPY X:\OS2IMAGE\DISK_1\*.* C:\DISK1, then press Enter

   where:

   X: is the CD-ROM drive, and
   C: is a partition on the hard drive.

5. Swap in the diskette drive; insert a formatted diskette and type the
   following:

   XCOPY C:\DISK1\*.* A:\, then press Enter
   LABEL A: DISK 1, then press Enter

6. Edit the CONFIG.SYS on the new DISK 1.

   Change: SET OS2_SHELL=SYSINST2.EXE
   To:     SET OS2_SHELL=SYSINST2.EXE C:\TEMP

   Save and Exit the file.

7. To start the installation you will need the following:

   - The original OS/2 Warp Installation Diskette
   - The modified DISK 1
   - The original DISK 2 (for OS/2 Warp 4 only)
   - Diskette images in the TEMP directory on the hard disk

   Insert the OS/2 Installation Diskette in drive A: and restart
   your system. Insert the modified DISK 1 when prompted for DISK 1.





warp4
______________________________________________________________________
IBM disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including
without limitation, warranties of fitness and merchantability with
respect to the information in this document. By furnishing this
document, IBM grants no licenses to any related patents or copyrights.
Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 IBM Corporation. Any trademarks and product
or brand names referenced in this document are the property of their
respective owners. Consult your product manuals for complete trademark
information.

--
David Kunz
Operator error.  Replace operator and strike any key to continue...

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From: [e-mail]                          20-Sep-99 20:16:12
  To: All                                               20-Sep-99 20:06:16
Subj: Re: Communicator Startup Bug

From: [e-mail] (Buddy Donnelly)

On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 06:26:42, Jeremy Bowen <[e-mail]> a ┌crit
dans un message:

> [e-mail] (Stewart Honsberger) writes:
>
> > On 31 Aug 1999 22:47:52 +1200, Jeremy Bowen wrote:
> > >
> > >Can anyone point me to a reference to the Communicator 4.61 command
> > >line options. I wish to create Icons on the desktop for different
> > >users and have it startup using the correct profile.
> >
> > Try running "netscape /?". It should give you the parameters.
>
> Are you trying to be clever or just wasting my time ??
>
> It would have been helpful if you'd tried this yourself before
> rattling off at your keyboard. Of course this doesn't work.

Now, now, there. We must all keep a civil tongue in our head. You get more
flies with honey than vinegar, remember. (If you want flies.) Suffer fools
gladly, at least.

The URL you want is:

    http://developer.netscape.com/docs/manuals/deploymt/options.htm

And of course you have to be connected to see it. Why Netscape in their
Corporate Wisdom didn't think it best to make this a local file, I'll never
understand, but that's the way it is.


Good luck,

Buddy

Buddy Donnelly
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                           20-Sep-99 07:42:18
  To: All                                               20-Sep-99 21:25:21
Subj: Re: Installed a larger HD, now desktop hangs at boot time

From: [e-mail]

Just my 2 cents worth....

How far did you get in the boot process?  Past the OS2LOGO?  If not I have
a similar problem.  I can boot from floppy but not from harddisk.  I HAVE
loaded the new support for large drives, but if ibm1s506.add is loaded
from the hard disk nothing happens after.  I am trying to install to a new
8.1GB drive on a Toshiba laptop.  I can install and boot Windoze95 and
linux, which does boot fine from the hard disk after installation.  I
belive that there is still a problem in ibm1s506 with certain
machine/drive combinations.  I have tried all the documented options as
well.

I have put the 8.1GB hard drive in another machine, used the same install
disks, and successfully booted os2 from the hard disk following the phase
1 of the installation.  It is only in the toshiba that there is a hang on
boot following phase 1 of the install....

Mark


In <[e-mail]>, on 08/17/99 at 07:16 PM,
   Jeff Hildebrand <[e-mail]> said:

>I replaced two smaller HDs (1.2GB and 256MB) with a much larger 4GB
>drive. Here's what I had originally:

>1.2GB:
>     200MB DR-DOS FAT Primary
>    ~300MB OS/2 Warp 4 HPFS Boot Extended
>    ~700MB OS/2 data HPFS Extended (remainder of drive)
>256MB:
>     120MB OS/2 HPFS Extended
>    ~136MB FAT Extended

>These were on the same IDE cable (yes, I know the small drive was killing
>performance on the large one). When I switched to the new drive, I copied
>the two boot partitions over verbatim (with
>DriveCopy), or at least, I thought I did. As it turned out, the drive
>geometry was slightly different, and so DC had to do a little work on
>those partitions. As a result of this, the OS/2 boot partition may extend
>a cylinder or two beyond 1024 (I am in LBA mode, so it may not matter,
>but from a CHS perspective, I could have crossed that boundary).

>I copied over the third partition without attempting to resize it, copied
>the FAT partition from the second drive and made it a little larger. The
>OS/2 partition on the second drive was effectively empty.

>Now, I had quite a bit of disk space left over, slightly over 2GB in
>fact, and I created one huge HPFS partition. FDISK didn't complain, nor
>did format. So now I have a drive that looks something like this:

>     200MB DR-DOS FAT Primary
>    ~300MB OS/2 Warp 4 HPFS Boot Extended
>    ~700MB OS/2 data HPFS Extended (remainder of drive)
>    ~400MB FAT Extended (not sure of this size)
>    ~2.4GB? HPFS Extended (again, not sure of the exact size)

>Oh yeah, the system: it's an AMD 486DX2/80, 32MB of RAM, AMI WinBIOS (or
>whatever it was called). Warp 4 is installed, and Fixpak 5.

>Here's the problem: when I boot the system I get a bunch of
>drivers spitting out messages (as I expect), the screen clears, I hear
>the monitor switch modes and the screen is painted gray (still okay).
>After a bit, the original Warp 4 desktop bitmap comes up, and then the
>drive light goes out. And it sits there. The cursor is the clock, the
>WarpCenter isn't there, nor are any of the icons. Nothing in the Startup
>Folder runs. I can reboot with Ctrl-Alt-Del and the system shuts down
>nicely, and rebooting *may* bring the system back.

>However, last night, after several reboots I still  couldn't get the boot
>process to complete. (The wife almost took my head off ask she wanted to
>type up a letter.) I booted from floppies and edited my config.sys and
>removed WARPCENTER from the
>AUTOSTART line (I *think* it's autostart). I rebooted the system and OS/2
>came up just fine. I even started the WarpCenter
>manually and my desktop was pretty much back to normal.

>So it looks like the WarpCenter is the problem, but why? Is
>that last HPFS partition too large? Netscape 2.02 is always
>complaining about a lack of space every time I try to download files to
>that partition. But then why can I start the
>WarpCenter manually? Has an important file been moved above
>the 1024 cyl threshold? That would mean that editing the config didn't
>really solve the problem (unless it was the config.sys itself that has
>partially over the 1024 cyl boundary).

>Has anyone else seen this? Is this a known problem that a
>Fixpak after #5 fixes?

>Thanks.

>Jeff


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--------------------------------------------------------------
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"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be
needed until they try to take it."
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From: [e-mail]                           20-Sep-99 08:07:19
  To: All                                               20-Sep-99 21:25:21
Subj: Re: Installed a larger HD, now desktop hangs at boot time

From: [e-mail]

Just my 2 cents worth....

How far did you get in the boot process?  Past the OS2LOGO?  If not I have
a similar problem.  I can boot from floppy but not from harddisk.  I HAVE
loaded the new support for large drives, but if ibm1s506.add is loaded
from the hard disk nothing happens after.  I am trying to install to a new
8.1GB drive on a Toshiba laptop.  I can install and boot Windoze95 and
linux, which does boot fine from the hard disk after installation.  I
belive that there is still a problem in ibm1s506 with certain
machine/drive combinations.  I have tried all the documented options as
well.

I have put the 8.1GB hard drive in another machine, used the same install
disks, and successfully booted os2 from the hard disk following the phase
1 of the installation.  It is only in the toshiba that there is a hang on
boot following phase 1 of the install....

Mark




In <[e-mail]>, on 08/17/99 at 07:16 PM,
   Jeff Hildebrand <[e-mail]> said:

>I replaced two smaller HDs (1.2GB and 256MB) with a much larger 4GB
>drive. Here's what I had originally:

>1.2GB:
>     200MB DR-DOS FAT Primary
>    ~300MB OS/2 Warp 4 HPFS Boot Extended
>    ~700MB OS/2 data HPFS Extended (remainder of drive)
>256MB:
>     120MB OS/2 HPFS Extended
>    ~136MB FAT Extended

>These were on the same IDE cable (yes, I know the small drive was killing
>performance on the large one). When I switched to the new drive, I copied
>the two boot partitions over verbatim (with
>DriveCopy), or at least, I thought I did. As it turned out, the drive
>geometry was slightly different, and so DC had to do a little work on
>those partitions. As a result of this, the OS/2 boot partition may extend
>a cylinder or two beyond 1024 (I am in LBA mode, so it may not matter,
>but from a CHS perspective, I could have crossed that boundary).

>I copied over the third partition without attempting to resize it, copied
>the FAT partition from the second drive and made it a little larger. The
>OS/2 partition on the second drive was effectively empty.

>Now, I had quite a bit of disk space left over, slightly over 2GB in
>fact, and I created one huge HPFS partition. FDISK didn't complain, nor
>did format. So now I have a drive that looks something like this:

>     200MB DR-DOS FAT Primary
>    ~300MB OS/2 Warp 4 HPFS Boot Extended
>    ~700MB OS/2 data HPFS Extended (remainder of drive)
>    ~400MB FAT Extended (not sure of this size)
>    ~2.4GB? HPFS Extended (again, not sure of the exact size)

>Oh yeah, the system: it's an AMD 486DX2/80, 32MB of RAM, AMI WinBIOS (or
>whatever it was called). Warp 4 is installed, and Fixpak 5.

>Here's the problem: when I boot the system I get a bunch of
>drivers spitting out messages (as I expect), the screen clears, I hear
>the monitor switch modes and the screen is painted gray (still okay).
>After a bit, the original Warp 4 desktop bitmap comes up, and then the
>drive light goes out. And it sits there. The cursor is the clock, the
>WarpCenter isn't there, nor are any of the icons. Nothing in the Startup
>Folder runs. I can reboot with Ctrl-Alt-Del and the system shuts down
>nicely, and rebooting *may* bring the system back.

>However, last night, after several reboots I still  couldn't get the boot
>process to complete. (The wife almost took my head off ask she wanted to
>type up a letter.) I booted from floppies and edited my config.sys and
>removed WARPCENTER from the
>AUTOSTART line (I *think* it's autostart). I rebooted the system and OS/2
>came up just fine. I even started the WarpCenter
>manually and my desktop was pretty much back to normal.

>So it looks like the WarpCenter is the problem, but why? Is
>that last HPFS partition too large? Netscape 2.02 is always
>complaining about a lack of space every time I try to download files to
>that partition. But then why can I start the
>WarpCenter manually? Has an important file been moved above
>the 1024 cyl threshold? That would mean that editing the config didn't
>really solve the problem (unless it was the config.sys itself that has
>partially over the 1024 cyl boundary).

>Has anyone else seen this? Is this a known problem that a
>Fixpak after #5 fixes?

>Thanks.

>Jeff


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From: [e-mail]                            20-Sep-99 14:43:02
  To: All                                               20-Sep-99 21:25:21
Subj: Re: Need Drivers for Sony CDU611 -> OS2

From: Tony Snyder <[e-mail]>

Mark Klebanoff <[e-mail]> wrote:
: I suspect that the generic IDE drivers will work.

:> I'm having trouble in finding drivers to get this Sony CDU611
:> ATAPI drive installed on Warp3.  Any help will be appreciated.
:>              Tony Snyder ---- [e-mail]

By generic IDE drivers, do you mean what shows up when you try to do
a selective install?  I've tried all those, although I will try
them again.  There is no Sony CDU611 listed, but there is a 6111.
As I've said, I've tried all the Sony setups, to no avail, but I'll
try again.   Or could you mean some other generic driver.  Where
might that driver be available?

--
             Tony Snyder ---- [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                         20-Sep-99 22:29:20
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 02:02:03
Subj: Re: Communicator Startup Bug

From: [e-mail] (Stewart Honsberger)

On 20 Sep 1999 18:26:42 +1200, Jeremy Bowen wrote:
>> Try running "netscape /?". It should give you the parameters.
.                                ^^^^^^

>Are you trying to be clever or just wasting my time ??

Are you trying to be an asshole, or was it incepted in you at birth?

>It would have been helpful if you'd tried this yourself before
>rattling off at your keyboard. Of course this doesn't work.

It *DID* work, atleast in previous versions of Netscape.

Next time somebody wants help in this group, I just won't respond. How's that
sound? I'm sure you'd love that, wouldn't you? It would be great if more
people stuck their heads up their asses like yourself and flamed people for
attempting to help others.

Go piss in a light socket.

--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[e-mail]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [e-mail]                                  20-Sep-99 09:56:08
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 02:02:03
Subj: Re: Warp4 + FP11 + DD1 = No Shutdown

From: "Donald Wilson" <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:06:20 +0200, Sacha Prins wrote:

>I just found out that TVFS is causing this. Which is strange, since other
>systems I have with TVFS do not behave like this. Still this maybe has
>something to do with the FP11 and/or DDFP1.
>
>Any comments?
>
>Sacha

I have the same problem with my system but I get as far as the
penultimate shutdown screen / message and (fortunately) don't have to
go through the chkdisk routine on reboot. I asked about this here
some time ago and was told the culprit was the Adaptec driver for my
SCSI set up.

Donald Wilson


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From: [e-mail]                               21-Sep-99 00:35:13
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 02:02:03
Subj: Re: Need Drivers for Sony CDU611 -> OS2

From: [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)

On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:43:04, Tony Snyder <[e-mail]>
wrote:
>
> By generic IDE drivers, do you mean what shows up when you try to do
> a selective install?  I've tried all those, although I will try
> them again.  There is no Sony CDU611 listed, but there is a 6111.
> As I've said, I've tried all the Sony setups, to no avail, but I'll
> try again.   Or could you mean some other generic driver.  Where
> might that driver be available?
>

I'm assuming the CDU611 is an IDE/ATAPI cd machine.  If so, try adding
the following lines to your config.sys file.  If any of them are
already there, then don't add them again

BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD /v   (THIS LINE MAY ALREADY BE THERE)
BASEDEV=IBMIDECD.FLT
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD

DEVICE=F:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q
IFS=F:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS
DEVICE=F:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS


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From: [e-mail]                                     21-Sep-99 06:44:00
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:11
Subj: VA Java Pro v2 Browser?

From: "Walter S. Rue" <[e-mail]>

Last night I installed Communicator v4.61 and everything seemed fine (I
have yet to try printing).  But just now, I happened to bring up VA Java
and am getting a "specified browser is...invalid" message.

Can this be corrected without backing out the new Communicator?

Thanks in advance.

Walter Rue

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From: [e-mail]                                   21-Sep-99 08:46:02
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:11
Subj: comm 4.61 install

From: leo tick <[e-mail]>

I have the preview installed. it is ok. Itried to install the GA aand
get complanmts that
cant't copy netscape.in_ and cant do some other with os2.ini. Is ther
something wrong
with the install program. Or cant one do an update but must delete the
preview?

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From: [e-mail]                                21-Sep-99 10:33:03
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:11
Subj: Re: comm 4.61 install

From: [e-mail]

leo tick <[e-mail]> said:

>cant't copy netscape.in_ and cant do some other with os2.ini. Is ther
something
>wrong
>with the install program. Or cant one do an update but must delete the
preview?

This is ridiculous.  From system to system things are so different.  I had not
one tiny little problem with it.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: [e-mail]                                21-Sep-99 10:34:23
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:11
Subj: Re: VA Java Pro v2 Browser?

From: [e-mail]

"Walter S. Rue" <[e-mail]> said:

>Last night I installed Communicator v4.61 and everything seemed fine (I have
>yet to try printing).

According to the readme there is still a problem with print preview.

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
More gun laws will cure the nations ills - just like drug laws do.


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From: [e-mail]                        21-Sep-99 17:37:02
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:11
Subj: NS 4.61 GA SYS3175

From: [e-mail] (Keith E. Moe)

The SYS3175 that I reported in the Betas:


09-21-1999  10:23:34  SYS3175  PID 0042  TID 0001  Slot 006f
I:\NS461\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
004c9ac5
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=138a7b94  EBX=138a7ba8  ECX=00000000  EDX=007c53dc
ESI=138a7ba8  EDI=007c53dc
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=11b3  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
CS:EIP=005b:004c9ac5  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c53d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c5420  FLG=00012202

NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:004b9ac5

has not been fixed.  Go to www.share.org to get this.

In addition, there appears to be no way to report this via the Product
Information and Support Help item as was possible in the Betas.

Keith

-- So many stupid people.  So few comets.

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From: [e-mail]                               21-Sep-99 13:24:08
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:11
Subj: Re: VA Java Pro v2 Browser?

From: Brad BARCLAY <[e-mail]>

"Walter S. Rue" wrote:
>
> Last night I installed Communicator v4.61 and everything seemed fine (I
> have yet to try printing).  But just now, I happened to bring up VA Java
> and am getting a "specified browser is...invalid" message.
>
> Can this be corrected without backing out the new Communicator?

    From within VAJ 2.0, Select "Window..." then "Options" and then
"Help".  Here you can specify the path and filename to your browsers
executable.

    Best of luck!

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [e-mail]        Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: systematicsATmindspringDOTcom                     21-Sep-99 16:53:06
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:11
Subj: Cannot create utility diskettes

From: systematicsATmindspringDOTcom (Fred Blau)

When I try to create the set of 4 utility diskettes (using
bootdisk.exe), the program crashes on the 2nd disk (disk 1).  The
dump shows:

09-19-1999  09:53:23  SYS3175  PID 0028  TID 0002  Slot 0051
C:\OS2\INSTALL\BOOTDISK.EXE
c0000005
000131bf
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=00000015  ECX=00000000  EDX=ffffffff
ESI=00021ad5  EDI=00022ce2
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:000131bf  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:00e03f8c  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=00e03fe4  FLG=00012246

BOOTDISK.EXE 0001:000031bf

My system parameters: Warp4, FixPak11.  I get similar results
with the archived version (from FixPak7 ?).  Is this a known
problem?  Is there a work-around?

-- Fred Blau
Change "AT" to "@", "DOT" to "."

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From: [e-mail]                                     21-Sep-99 14:45:01
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:12
Subj: Netscape 4.61 GA Does Not Recover From Error

From: [e-mail] (Mikus Grinbergs)

Looking at pages at an ordinary site.  Clicked 'back'.
The netscape session disappeared from my display:

09-21-1999  14:34:33  SYS3175  PID 00f7  TID 0001  Slot 0070
E:\APP\NS6\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1e119776
P1=00000000  P2=ffffffff  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=010e0000  EBX=20202020  ECX=20202020  EDX=00000001
ESI=00000002  EDI=00117b7c
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=090b  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
CS:EIP=005b:1e119776  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c58a8  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c58b0  FLG=00012202

MOZILLA.DLL 0001:00009776


What I found MOST interesting is that a process display shows
NETSCAPE.EXE as still running (allegedly in EXIT T1 status).

Trying to start Netscape again gets:

09-21-1999  14:58:52  SYS3175  PID 012b  TID 0001  Slot 006c
E:\APP\NS6\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
00591b3a
P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=017541e0  ECX=00591a6c  EDX=00000001
ESI=016c4620  EDI=0059183c
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:00591b3a  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c4900  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c492c  FLG=00012202

NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:00581b3a


I ended up having to reboot.


mikus  (warp4+fp11, tcpip 4.02w, java 118-0910)

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From: [e-mail]                               21-Sep-99 14:26:06
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 17:28:12
Subj: Re: Cannot create utility diskettes

From: Irv Spalten <[e-mail]>

Known problem, and should be fixed in FP 12 and 42, due out soon.

Problem is the IBM1S506 driver significantly increased in size. This is
the APAR= JR12954, BOOTDISK.EXE TRAPS WITH SYS3175 ERROR AFTER FP10.

If you have an old set around, or just copy the installation diskettes,
and copy over ALL the device drivers from your hard disk, and when you
run out of space, delete unneeded drivers (CD's, sound cards', etc) to
make space, you can get it done.

Irv

Fred Blau wrote:
>
> When I try to create the set of 4 utility diskettes (using
> bootdisk.exe), the program crashes on the 2nd disk (disk 1).  The
> dump shows:
>
> 09-19-1999  09:53:23  SYS3175  PID 0028  TID 0002  Slot 0051
> C:\OS2\INSTALL\BOOTDISK.EXE
> c0000005
> 000131bf
> P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> EAX=00000000  EBX=00000015  ECX=00000000  EDX=ffffffff
> ESI=00021ad5  EDI=00022ce2
> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
> CS:EIP=005b:000131bf  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> SS:ESP=0053:00e03f8c  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> EBP=00e03fe4  FLG=00012246
>
> BOOTDISK.EXE 0001:000031bf
>
> My system parameters: Warp4, FixPak11.  I get similar results
> with the archived version (from FixPak7 ?).  Is this a known
> problem?  Is there a work-around?
>
> -- Fred Blau
> Change "AT" to "@", "DOT" to "."

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From: [e-mail]                21-Sep-99 20:09:17
  To: All                                               21-Sep-99 21:23:03
Subj: Re: comm 4.61 install

From: "Mike Ruskai" <[e-mail]>

On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:46:05 -0400, leo tick wrote:

>I have the preview installed. it is ok. Itried to install the GA aand
>get complanmts that
>cant't copy netscape.in_ and cant do some other with os2.ini. Is ther
>something wrong
>with the install program. Or cant one do an update but must delete the
>preview?

Though of limited use for you, I can report that I installed the GA over
the preview without a single hitch.  Didn't do anything in preparation.



 - Mike

Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.


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From: [e-mail]                           21-Sep-99 20:09:05
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 04:29:01
Subj: Colors in NS461 messed up

From: Kyle Markley <[e-mail]>

Help!

I upgraded to Netscape 4.61 and now I can't read e-mail or newsgroups
anymore!  The message headers display, but the text is absent -- or it's
white on white.  I can't read anything!

I can copy/paste into another window to get the text, or trying to Reply
to the message will bring up a new window where it's visible.
Naturally, I'd rather not do that....

Can anybody help me out?  Please reply via e-mail -- newsgroups are too
frustrating to read like this, but I'll force myself to get through my
e-mail.

Warp4/FP11/G100 (Latest Matrox drivers) 32bpp

---
Kyle Markley
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                                     21-Sep-99 22:33:27
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 04:29:02
Subj: Re: VA Java Pro v2 Browser?

From: "Walter S. Rue" <[e-mail]>

Thanks!  That did it.  One thing I had failed to notice was that
NETSCAPE.EXE is now in x:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\, down one level from v4.04.

Brad BARCLAY wrote:
>
> "Walter S. Rue" wrote:
> >
> > Last night I installed Communicator v4.61 and everything seemed fine (I
> > have yet to try printing).  But just now, I happened to bring up VA Java
> > and am getting a "specified browser is...invalid" message.
> >
> > Can this be corrected without backing out the new Communicator?
>
>         From within VAJ 2.0, Select "Window..." then "Options" and then
> "Help".  Here you can specify the path and filename to your browsers
> executable.
>
>         Best of luck!
>
> Brad BARCLAY
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
> E-Mail:  [e-mail]            Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [e-mail]                     22-Sep-99 05:21:29
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 04:29:02
Subj: Re: Colors in NS461 messed up

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Kyle Markley wrote:

> I upgraded to Netscape 4.61 and now I can't read e-mail or newsgroups
> anymore!  The message headers display, but the text is absent -- or it's
> white on white.  I can't read anything!

Go to Edit->Preferences, select Fonts, and change the Fixed
Width font to something other than Courier New (Courier
would normally be the alternative).

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                              21-Sep-99 22:29:13
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 04:29:02
Subj: Re: Cannot create utility diskettes

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

First, if you've created your own boot logo (OS2LOGO), revert to the
default. Next, while the 2nd diskette is being built, watch it from a
command line using DIR: delete files you don't need immediately after
they've been copied. If you don't use an MCA machine, delete all IBM2*
files. Other files vary from system to system, but AIC7870.ADD is a
prime contender as it has grown huge and many people find it doesn't
work even if they need it. Make a note of every file you delete. Some
files you will have to delete twice: they are copied once off the CD and
again from the boot drive. Once the diskettes are all built, put any
files back you need to (e.g. the original version of AIC7870.ADD off the
CD) and edit the CONFIG.SYS on the same floppy so it doesn't try to load
anything you deleted. You can now restore any custom boot logo.

Graham.

Fred Blau wrote:
>
> When I try to create the set of 4 utility diskettes (using
> bootdisk.exe), the program crashes on the 2nd disk (disk 1).  The
> dump shows:

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From: [e-mail]                                   22-Sep-99 00:10:08
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 04:29:02
Subj: 2GB Limit WinOS2 Drive Limit...

From: Thomas Carlyle <[e-mail]>

Does anyone know of a work around or upgrade to WinOS2 that will allow
me to use my entire 9.1GB HardDrive as one partition?  I know that
WinOS2 (Win 3.X) is limited by the old DOS 2GB drive limit, but maybe
some one has knowledge of a recompiled drive file that uses thunking, or
some other modification to allow for the latest large drives (6GB, 8GB,
10GB, etc.)

Thomas Carlyle



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From: [e-mail]                                   22-Sep-99 01:45:26
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 10:37:23
Subj: Re: Non Y2K bug in OS/2?  :)

From: Kris Kadela <[e-mail]>

The story might have been different if the PCs were turned off during
the rollover, not?

Oliver Rick wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Lo and behold... during a 12-31-1999 and 23:50 -> clock rollover with
> > OS/2 Warp 4.0 ... surprise!
>
> >       1.) Both boxes auto-rolled..
> >       2.) Both boxes retained the 01-01-2000 date at the BIOS level ..
> >       3.) During a power down - restart .. all is still correct...
>
> > Are we shortchanging the nice folks at IBM for OS/2 and does it have
> > some of the intrinsic 'fix-me' in it as of FP8 that some other programs
> > claim to do at a software level?
>
> Since FixPaks 35/6 the CLOCK driver corrects the century digits in the BIOS.
>
>    /Olli/
> --
> IBM OS/2 Warp Update Summary:
> http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warpupdates.html

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From: [e-mail]                                   22-Sep-99 01:56:04
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 10:37:23
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 GA SYS3175

From: Kris Kadela <[e-mail]>

Hehe, I checked the site with this Win98 box and guess what. The PC just
rebooted itself so I tried again and total lockup. NS 4.61 on my Warp 4
box crashes too but the OS stays up :)

"Keith E. Moe" wrote:
>
> The SYS3175 that I reported in the Betas:
>
> 09-21-1999  10:23:34  SYS3175  PID 0042  TID 0001  Slot 006f
> I:\NS461\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> c0000005
> 004c9ac5
> P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> EAX=138a7b94  EBX=138a7ba8  ECX=00000000  EDX=007c53dc
> ESI=138a7ba8  EDI=007c53dc
> DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> GS=11b3  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
> CS:EIP=005b:004c9ac5  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> SS:ESP=0053:007c53d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> EBP=007c5420  FLG=00012202
>
> NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:004b9ac5
>
> has not been fixed.  Go to www.share.org to get this.
>
> In addition, there appears to be no way to report this via the Product
> Information and Support Help item as was possible in the Betas.
>
> Keith
>
> -- So many stupid people.  So few comets.

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From: [e-mail]                                   22-Sep-99 05:06:27
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 10:37:23
Subj: Re: comm 4.61 install

From: leo tick <[e-mail]>


Mike Ruskai wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:46:05 -0400, leo tick wrote:
>
> >I have the preview installed. it is ok. Itried to install the GA aand
> >get complanmts that
> >cant't copy netscape.in_ and cant do some other with os2.ini. Is ther
> >something wrong
> >with the install program. Or cant one do an update but must delete the
> >preview?
>
> Though of limited use for you, I can report that I installed the GA over
> the preview without a single hitch.  Didn't do anything in preparation.
>
>  - Mike
>
> Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail.

to answer my own posting  there is an error in the install process. If you
select
saving the the previous version the install goes through. If not not.
Suggent IBM give a notice and maybe even fix


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From: [e-mail]                                   22-Sep-99 18:39:13
  To: All                                               22-Sep-99 10:37:23
Subj: Re: comm 4.61 install

From: [e-mail] (Robin Klitscher)

In article <[e-mail]>,
"Mike Ruskai" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:46:05 -0400, leo tick wrote:
>
>>I have the preview installed. it is ok. Itried to install the GA aand
>>get complanmts that
>>cant't copy netscape.in_ and cant do some other with os2.ini. Is ther
>>something wrong
>>with the install program. Or cant one do an update but must delete the
>>preview?
>
>Though of limited use for you, I can report that I installed the GA over
>the preview without a single hitch.  Didn't do anything in preparation.
>
>


Same here on both counts, FWIW.

Since then, however, I've uninstalled the results and re-installed the
GA afresh.  Why?  'Cos, among other small things, both the title bar
and the about: Communicator page persisted in reporting that I still
had the Beta2 version aboard.  Something to do with the file
..\lang\en_US\RESDLL.DLL (which seems to be the one that carries or
calls the version messages) not being overwritten during the update
process, I suspect. Probably not critical, but at least the
installation I actually have now reports itself as consistent with the
one I thought I had!


(The uninstall/reinstall process, incidentally, preserved personal
settings, customizations and other things (eg bookmarks and history)
undisturbed.  AFAICT so far, the only thing "lost" was the contents of
the cache.)




--
Robin Klitscher
Wellington ("Harbour City") NZ

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From: [e-mail]                         22-Sep-99 05:38:12
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:24
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Beta2 - SYS3175

From: John Griffin <[e-mail]>

yeah i noticed the same thing, but the error seems to happen sporadicaly, and
not to often now. (had the first one since my first post, last night) but i am
now running 404, netscape 4.61 is out of beta but i will probably wait for a
bit before i download it. i dont ask much out of an os except that it run
stable and secure. so far os2 is it. linux has a way to go before i will
really
get in to it. and the pmmerge (or sys3175) errors are negligable. i just hope
to tune in here for the post that cures it (or presents a work around) one
day.
i'm sure its in the os not in netscape. i ve tried with FP's and with out, ive
tried it b4 installing any extra programs (ie candybarz, truetype dll for os2,
etc). And did notice an increase in errors when running NPSWPS and candybarz
with netscape. i'm not saying they caused it but i think they brought out the
bug a little more (on my box anyway). but like i said its happened b4 any
fixpack and extra programs are installed and doesnt increase or decrease in
frequency after fp was added. the error just occurs every now and again. even
when not running netscape. all in all i can live with this (so far my only
problem) rare instance compared to 98's truck load.

David Rocks wrote:

>     My instances of the SYS3175 only seem to occur only after opening INBOX
> to a IMAP server. Even then if I close INBOX and do other things for  a
> while (20+ minutes), it doesn't occur. Seems like something is not shaking
> hands properly. I've never had to reboot due to this problem.
>
> John Griffin wrote:
>
> > i too get the funny sys3175 errors (sorry no saved errors). i got them
> > using 4.61 and did a fresh install of of warp 4 and FP11, java 1.1.8,
> > dont have the 5.5 stack..yet. and i use nestscape 4.04..i get the
> > sys3175's in pmmerge as well as in netscape.exe,. i have had it occur
> > when i use pmview some times while netscape is running... it rarely (if
> > ever) requaires the 3 finger solute, but i do have to reboot sometimes
> > just to get things in order...i'm hoping FP12 will have a fix for it...
> >
> > FEEB wrote:
> >
> > > Intermittent SYS3175's with NS 4.61 B2:
> > >
> > > 08-26-1999  08:11:21  SYS3175  PID 00e6  TID 0001  Slot 00de
> > > E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> > > c0000005
> > > 1be2f6eb
> > > P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> > > EAX=00000000  EBX=007c650c  ECX=69737265  EDX=13e8afa0
> > > ESI=007c58e8  EDI=17a578ec
> > > DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> > > ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> > > FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> > > GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
> > > CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> > > SS:ESP=0053:007c58d0  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> > > EBP=007c58f0  FLG=00012202
> > >
> > > PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0012f6eb
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > 08-30-1999  09:42:08  SYS3175  PID 0052  TID 0001  Slot 00d0
> > > E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> > > c0000005
> > > 1be2f6eb
> > > P1=00000001  P2=00000008  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
> > > EAX=00000000  EBX=17a71c1c  ECX=00010052  EDX=13e8afa0
> > > ESI=17a841e0  EDI=17a71c38
> > > DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
> > > ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
> > > FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
> > > GS=08bb  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
> > > CS:EIP=005b:1be2f6eb  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
> > > SS:ESP=0053:007c5824  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
> > >
> > > Frank Bures, [e-mail] (use this address for replies)
> > > http://frank.chem.utoronto.ca/electronics
> > > Warning: Received flame-mail will be reposted on the UseNet in full
> >
> > --
> > If Your Not Using OS/2 Your Working Too Hard



--
If Your Not Using OS/2 Your Working Too Hard


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From: [e-mail]                        22-Sep-99 08:12:16
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:24
Subj: Communicator 4.61 Bugs

From: Felix Miata <[e-mail]>

To add to or confirm those on
http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html

Right click (on link) menu remains missing from:

    view
        page info

URL dropdown box still omits entries that weren't typed into the URL
window (links clicked-on).

user_pref("taskbar.button_style", 4); does not entirely remove the
component bar

loopback device (127.0.0.1) takes forever to time out

-P option fails to open different user if another is already open

some pages don't load fully until you hit Reload


2.02 is still the usability king.
--
A man who lacks judgment derides his neighbor, but a man of
understanding holds his tongue.                Proverbs 11:12 NKJV

 Team OS/2

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Sep-99 08:31:02
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: 2GB Limit WinOS2 Drive Limit...

From: Ron Vopicka <[e-mail]>

Thomas Carlyle wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a work around or upgrade to WinOS2 that will allow
> me to use my entire 9.1GB HardDrive as one partition?  I know that
> WinOS2 (Win 3.X) is limited by the old DOS 2GB drive limit, but maybe
> some one has knowledge of a recompiled drive file that uses thunking, or
> some other modification to allow for the latest large drives (6GB, 8GB,
> 10GB, etc.)
>

Thomas

The 2GB limit you are probably talking about is a FAT(16) partition
limit.  You can try going to HPFS and defining the first 8GB as a single
partition (I'm assuming you are going to need to boot from this
partition also... if your bootable OS2 is elsewhere you can define the
whole disk as one partition, although I would never do that
personally... too many eggs in one basket when the ultimate disaster
occurs).

Once you have done that, you can move on to the next potential problem.
Some windows programs check for free space and are totally
(mathematically) unprepared to deal with a number over 2GB (and usually
thinks the number is a negative or other incorrect positive value of
free space.

Get by that, and you should be home-free.

Ron

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From: [e-mail]                                   22-Sep-99 11:05:26
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: Cannot create utility diskettes

From: Juan I. Cahis <[e-mail]>

Dear Friends:

If your problem is generated by the lack of space in the second
diskette (due to the fact that many drivers have grown in size), prior
to generate the emergency diskettes, replace the file "KEYBOARD.DCP"
(300k in size), by the one that comes in one of the original OS/2
installation diskettes (about 15k in size). So you will save about
270k in the second emergency diskette!!!! After generating the
emergency diskettes, restore the original file.

The small "KEYBOARD.DCP" file allows you to use your keyboard as an US
American keyboard only, but this will be OK in many emergency
situations.



systematicsATmindspringDOTcom (Fred Blau) wrote:

>When I try to create the set of 4 utility diskettes (using
>bootdisk.exe), the program crashes on the 2nd disk (disk 1).  The
>dump shows:
>
>09-19-1999  09:53:23  SYS3175  PID 0028  TID 0002  Slot 0051
>C:\OS2\INSTALL\BOOTDISK.EXE
>c0000005
>000131bf
>P1=00000001  P2=00000000  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
>EAX=00000000  EBX=00000015  ECX=00000000  EDX=ffffffff
>ESI=00021ad5  EDI=00022ce2
>DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
>ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
>FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>CS:EIP=005b:000131bf  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
>SS:ESP=0053:00e03f8c  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
>EBP=00e03fe4  FLG=00012246
>
>BOOTDISK.EXE 0001:000031bf
>
>My system parameters: Warp4, FixPak11.  I get similar results
>with the archived version (from FixPak7 ?).  Is this a known
>problem?  Is there a work-around?
>
>-- Fred Blau
>Change "AT" to "@", "DOT" to "."

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Email: [e-mail] [e-mail]
To send me Email, please remove ".nospam" from my Email address
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Sep-99 11:36:06
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 GA SYS3175

From: [e-mail]

Kris Kadela <[e-mail]> said:

>Hehe, I checked the site with this Win98 box and guess what. The PC just
>rebooted itself so I tried again and total lockup. NS 4.61 on my Warp 4 box
>crashes too but the OS stays up :)

>> has not been fixed.  Go to www.share.org to get this.

Well, here's a first.  It works fine for me. :-)

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                             22-Sep-99 16:40:08
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Communicator 4.61 problem

From: [e-mail] (Roger Oksanen)

I have only used Comm 4.61 GA for a few hours, and now it broke down
:(. First symptoms came when I visited www.cs.helsinki.fi, and the
page looked strange. I decided to close NS, but now it's hung in it's
exitlist ("... exiting thread 1"). My popuplog shows the folowing
error:

09-22-1999  19:06:19  SYS3175  PID 0053  TID 0001  Slot 0094
D:\APP\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1d949d78
P1=00000002  P2=00000004  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=021bba60  ECX=018e0000  EDX=ffffffff
ESI=00000001  EDI=018e0000
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=089b  GSACC=10f3  GSLIM=00003fff
CS:EIP=005b:1d949d78  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:007c62cc  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007c6364  FLG=00012287

MOZILLA.DLL 0001:00009d78

and watchat thread view shows one thread left
 ID PRIO STATUS  BLOCKID
ÄÄÄ ÄÄÄÄ ÄÄÄÄÄÄ  ÄÄÄÄÄÄ─
  1  21e blocked fe0c9cec

.. I still wonder why anyone would want to do error sensitive tasks
in the exitlist.

Other usefull info:
Warp 4 / FP 11
Asus P2B-DS, P3-500MHz, Matrox G400 with Matrox drivers

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Roger Oksanen; Computer Science student at Helsinki University
               and OS/2 Warp 4 user!
   e-mail: [e-mail]
   or      [e-mail]
-----------------------------------------------------------

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From: [e-mail]                                   22-Sep-99 18:56:19
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: Communicator Startup Bug

From: [e-mail] (Paul Fredell)

In message
<[e-mail]> -
[e-mail], 21 Sep 1999 19:45:37 +0200 writes:
:>
:>On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:25:12, [e-mail] (Stewart
:>Honsberger) wrote:
:>
:>> On 31 Aug 1999 22:47:52 +1200, Jeremy Bowen wrote:
:>> >
:>> >Can anyone point me to a reference to the Communicator 4.61 command
:>> >line options. I wish to create Icons on the desktop for different
:>> >users and have it startup using the correct profile.
:>>
:>> Try running "netscape /?". It should give you the parameters.
:>
:>This is both broken for me in 4.61 Beta. It worked in 4.04 with
:>-P"user".
:>But I have read somewhere, that it will be fixed in the 4.61 GA.
:>
:>Greetings,
:>    Peter.

Definitely fixed in the GA.  Works fine now.


==WPF==
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://home.earthlink.net/~pfredell/

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From: [e-mail]                           22-Sep-99 14:03:14
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 bug reprort

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Christian Hennecke wrote:

> - News: Shift-A for marking all messages as read doesn't work.

It's Shift-C, not Shift-A.

Oh, and you can find the bug-report areas by choosing Product
Information and Support from the Help menu on the browser.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: *@sadf.com                                        22-Sep-99 15:56:24
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 Bugs

From: * <*@sadf.com>

Jeff,

I've been looking all over the web for a solution to my problem and then
I
found your bug fix list for 4.61!

I am running os/2 warp and communicator 4.6 and have been having cache
and
reload problems like you discovered in 4.61.
Only when I hit reload do I get my text looking as it should even after
I
clear the cache.  Its annoying for the end user to hit
reload on each page.  We're running a website off our internal server
and
have been viewing a site made in dreamweaver on
an os/2 machine and viewing the content through communicator 4.6.

Have you found a fix for this that I  could apply to 4.6?  This is what
our
client has and
I don't see them upgrading unless 4.61 is free or relatively inexpensive
for
os/2 warp.  That's even if there's a fix for this problem in either
versions.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give.


Marc Chapuis
[e-mail]

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:

> Felix Miata wrote:
>
> > To add to or confirm those on
> > http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html
>
> Every one of those things you mentioned are either working as
> designed or working the same as the Windows platform from
> which the code was ported.  That might not make you feel any
> better, but it sure makes me feel good.
>
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

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From: *@sadf.com                                        22-Sep-99 16:00:20
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 Bugs

From: * <*@sadf.com>

Jeff,

I've been looking all over the web for a solution to my problem and then
I
found your bug fix list for 4.61!

I am running os/2 warp and communicator 4.6 and have been having cache
and
reload problems like you discovered in 4.61.
Only when I hit reload do I get my text looking as it should even after
I
clear the cache.  Its annoying for the end user to hit
reload on each page.  We're running a website off our internal server
and
have been viewing a site made in dreamweaver on
an os/2 machine and viewing the content through communicator 4.6.

Have you found a fix for this that I  could apply to 4.6?  This is what
our
client has and
I don't see them upgrading unless 4.61 is free or relatively inexpensive
for
os/2 warp.  That's even if there's a fix for this problem in either
versions.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give.


Marc Chapuis

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:

> Felix Miata wrote:
>
> > To add to or confirm those on
> > http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html
>
> Every one of those things you mentioned are either working as
> designed or working the same as the Windows platform from
> which the code was ported.  That might not make you feel any
> better, but it sure makes me feel good.
>
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

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From: [e-mail]                                 22-Sep-99 23:48:12
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Feature Installer

From: [e-mail]

I'm having problems trying to update to the newer versions of the feature
installer.
Both the previous version, and now the latest (1.2.5) version crashes my
system
when I try to install.  After I close everything and the message comes up
about
refreshing the desktop, the WPS shuts down and redraws and gives me an error
message.  My system setup icons have red balls which say FS and I must reboot.
Does anyone else have this happen?

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Sep-99 19:58:24
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: HP 680C in Win-OS/2

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>


Roberto D. Cucco wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a problem here, ok, I have installed in my Warp 4 an HP 680C
> printer with its last driver downloaded from Device Driver Pack, but I
> can't print in Win-OS/2 because it doesn't recognise it, What can i do?
> I can`t install the MS Windows 3.11 drivers because is uncompatible...
>
> ...help...
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   Roberto Daniel Cucco <[e-mail]>
>   SIDER
>
>   Roberto Daniel Cucco
>   SIDER  <[e-mail]>
>          Netscape Conference Address
>          Netscape Conference DLS Server
>   Additional Information:
>   Last Name Cucco
>   First NameRoberto Daniel
>   Version   2.1

  I have an HP682C printer and have no problems. I don't know why you think
you can't install the Windows 3.x drivers in Win-OS/2. I did just that. I
installed theWin 3.x printer dirvers to LPT1 in Win-OS/2. Then I went to
Win-OS/2 main --> control panel --> printers --> connect. Then connected my
printer to LPT1.OS2. Whenever I fire up Win-OS/2 I get an annoying popup
message saying that the driver is not installed properly but everything works
fine. I know there is a way to make that message stop coming up but I've
forgotten what it is.

Good luck
Jim

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Sep-99 20:09:00
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:25
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 printing problem

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

Baden Kudrenecky wrote:

>    I am TOTALLY bafflemated now!  Summarising:
>
>    Everything used to work well.
>
>    Yesterday, I did a Selective Install for MMPM, trying
> (foolishly) to get the VB.EXE installed.  I then booted Solaris,
> and tried, unsuccessfully, to get my networking going.  When I
> re-booted OS/2, had I lost my "Desktop", for some reason, and I
> had to build (many hour excursion) a new one.
>
>    I also reinstalled FP_40, as I had done a "Selective
> Install", which may have originally screwed up my "Desktop".
>
>    Today, I successfully printed:
>
> copy job \\UNC_name
> from EPM
> from WebExplorer
> from HotJava
> from Netscape 2.02
> from Netscape 4.61 with another printer driver (IBM Null)
>
>    I cannot print from Netscape 4.61 Beta2 to the Laserjet
> driver 30.453.  I have TOTALLY re-installed Netscape 4.61, and
> reviewed the printer settings ad nauseam, but the output to file
> is continuously '0 bytes'
>
> bafflemated!
>
> baden
>
> [e-mail]
> http://baden.nu/
> OS/2, Solaris & Linux

You said FP_40. That implies Warp 3. I thought Communicator 4.61 was
only supported on Warp 4.

Jim


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From: [e-mail]                                22-Sep-99 20:13:10
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 04:15:26
Subj: Re: Installed a larger HD, now desktop hangs at boot time

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

See imbedded comment below

Jim
[e-mail] wrote:

> Just my 2 cents worth....
>
> How far did you get in the boot process?  Past the OS2LOGO?  If not I have
> a similar problem.  I can boot from floppy but not from harddisk.  I HAVE
> loaded the new support for large drives, but if ibm1s506.add is loaded
> from the hard disk nothing happens after.  I am trying to install to a new
> 8.1GB drive on a Toshiba laptop.  I can install and boot Windoze95 and
> linux, which does boot fine from the hard disk after installation.  I
> belive that there is still a problem in ibm1s506 with certain
> machine/drive combinations.  I have tried all the documented options as
> well.
>
> I have put the 8.1GB hard drive in another machine, used the same install
> disks, and successfully booted os2 from the hard disk following the phase
> 1 of the installation.  It is only in the toshiba that there is a hang on
> boot following phase 1 of the install....
>
> Mark
>
> In <[e-mail]>, on 08/17/99 at 07:16 PM,
>    Jeff Hildebrand <[e-mail]> said:
>
> >I replaced two smaller HDs (1.2GB and 256MB) with a much larger 4GB
> >drive. Here's what I had originally:
>
> >1.2GB:
> >        200MB DR-DOS FAT Primary
> >       ~300MB OS/2 Warp 4 HPFS Boot Extended
> >       ~700MB OS/2 data HPFS Extended (remainder of drive)
> >256MB:
> >        120MB OS/2 HPFS Extended
> >       ~136MB FAT Extended
>
> >These were on the same IDE cable (yes, I know the small drive was killing
> >performance on the large one). When I switched to the new drive, I copied
> >the two boot partitions over verbatim (with
> >DriveCopy), or at least, I thought I did. As it turned out, the drive
> >geometry was slightly different, and so DC had to do a little work on
> >those partitions. As a result of this, the OS/2 boot partition may extend
> >a cylinder or two beyond 1024 (I am in LBA mode, so it may not matter,
> >but from a CHS perspective, I could have crossed that boundary).
>
> >I copied over the third partition without attempting to resize it, copied
> >the FAT partition from the second drive and made it a little larger. The
> >OS/2 partition on the second drive was effectively empty.
>
> >Now, I had quite a bit of disk space left over, slightly over 2GB in
> >fact, and I created one huge HPFS partition. FDISK didn't complain, nor
> >did format. So now I have a drive that looks something like this:
>
> >        200MB DR-DOS FAT Primary
> >       ~300MB OS/2 Warp 4 HPFS Boot Extended
> >       ~700MB OS/2 data HPFS Extended (remainder of drive)
> >       ~400MB FAT Extended (not sure of this size)
> >       ~2.4GB? HPFS Extended (again, not sure of the exact size)
>
> >Oh yeah, the system: it's an AMD 486DX2/80, 32MB of RAM, AMI WinBIOS (or
> >whatever it was called). Warp 4 is installed, and Fixpak 5.
>
> >Here's the problem: when I boot the system I get a bunch of
> >drivers spitting out messages (as I expect), the screen clears, I hear
> >the monitor switch modes and the screen is painted gray (still okay).
> >After a bit, the original Warp 4 desktop bitmap comes up, and then the
> >drive light goes out. And it sits there. The cursor is the clock, the
> >WarpCenter isn't there, nor are any of the icons. Nothing in the Startup
> >Folder runs. I can reboot with Ctrl-Alt-Del and the system shuts down
> >nicely, and rebooting *may* bring the system back.
>
> >However, last night, after several reboots I still  couldn't get the boot
> >process to complete. (The wife almost took my head off ask she wanted to
> >type up a letter.) I booted from floppies and edited my config.sys and
> >removed WARPCENTER from the
> >AUTOSTART line (I *think* it's autostart). I rebooted the system and OS/2
> >came up just fine. I even started the WarpCenter
> >manually and my desktop was pretty much back to normal.
>
> >So it looks like the WarpCenter is the problem, but why? Is
> >that last HPFS partition too large? Netscape 2.02 is always
> >complaining about a lack of space every time I try to download files to
> >that partition.

Perhaps Netscape 2.02 can't handle a number greater than 2G (2 raised to the
31 st power - 1) which is the largest number that can be held in a 32-bit
signed integer. Try allocating some dummy files to get the space available
less than 2G. Later you can delete these files when your partition fills up
more.

> But then why can I start the
> >WarpCenter manually? Has an important file been moved above
> >the 1024 cyl threshold? That would mean that editing the config didn't
> >really solve the problem (unless it was the config.sys itself that has
> >partially over the 1024 cyl boundary).
>
> >Has anyone else seen this? Is this a known problem that a
> >Fixpak after #5 fixes?
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >Jeff
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> [e-mail]
>
> "The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be
> needed until they try to take it."
>                                           --Thomas Jefferson
>
> Protect your rights: www.vetothegovernor.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------



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From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch...               23-Sep-99 02:03:29
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 bug reprort

Message sender: [e-mail]

From: Christian Hennecke <[e-mail]>

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" schrieb:
>
> Christian Hennecke wrote:
>
> > - News: Shift-A for marking all messages as read doesn't work.
>
> It's Shift-C, not Shift-A.

Ah well, thanks. There are typos in my german Comm 4.61's menus.

> Oh, and you can find the bug-report areas by choosing Product
> Information and Support from the Help menu on the browser.

Well, choosing this leads me to a site where I can select the product
language and country which in any case leads me to a page that says that
there's no special page for Communicator support available.

Christian Hennecke
--
Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving)

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From: [e-mail]                             22-Sep-99 21:41:07
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Re: Colors in NS461 messed up

From: "Frederick W. Gearhart" <[e-mail]>

I had the same problem - glad I came across this message!  Out of curiosity,
why does this problem occur?  btw, other than this problem, the new
Communicator seems great, congrats!

Fritz

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:

> Kyle Markley wrote:
>
> > I upgraded to Netscape 4.61 and now I can't read e-mail or newsgroups
> > anymore!  The message headers display, but the text is absent -- or it's
> > white on white.  I can't read anything!
>
> Go to Edit->Preferences, select Fonts, and change the Fixed
> Width font to something other than Courier New (Courier
> would normally be the alternative).
>
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Sep-99 23:02:03
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Can't print from Communicator 4.61 to HP682C

From: Jim Parker <[e-mail]>

I've tried printing web pages from Communicator 4.61 to my HP682C and
all I get is garbage. When viewing the print jobs using PICVIEW the jobs
look OK but PICVIEW pops up a  message saying that "The application
detects some erroneous data in the metafile."

I upgraded to the latest OMNI driver (30.698) but that didn' t help.
Printing used to work under Communicator 4.04.

Anybody else seen this problem? Any solution?

Thanks
Jim

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Sep-99 04:07:00
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 GA SYS3175

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  Kris Kadela <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Hehe, I checked the site with this Win98 box and
guess what. The PC just
> rebooted itself so I tried again and total lockup.
NS 4.61 on my Warp 4
> box crashes too but the OS stays up :)
>
> "Keith E. Moe" wrote:
> >
> > The SYS3175 that I reported in the Betas:
> >
> > 09-21-1999  10:23:34  SYS3175  PID 0042  TID 0001
Slot 006f
> > I:\NS461\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> > c0000005
> > 004c9ac5
        <<<snip>>>
> > has not been fixed.  Go to www.share.org to get
this.
        <<<snip>>>

Just went to http://www.share.org.  No problem.
Three potential bear traps on the page:
- a Java (I'm assuming) applet that scrolls by some
comments, each of which is a link to something.  I
positioned my mouse cursor over the scrolling area &
watched the URL area in the bottom border of the
window change with each entry as it passed under the
stationary mouse cursor.
- a Java (I'm assuming) applet that is counting down
to the totally bogus date of this coming New Year.
- an animated graphic of a running, jaw-snapping
velociraptor.  I think it's a velociraptor.  Some
fierce looking dinosaur, anyway.

Opened it in a second browser window too.

Now as for the SYS3175, I've seen it in 4.61GA too.
But it's the exact same stinking thing I have been
reporting here since the February 12, 1999 release of
4.04GA.  Multiple browser windows stall the download
until you pull focus away from all browser windows.
Many advertisements do something bad, I can't tell if
it's the animations or applets (Java or Javascript)
behind them, or what.  CPU goes to 100%, page
download stalls, & switching focus away from all
browser windows restarts the data transfer.  Slow
rendering of tables whose cells are both numerous &
of colored backgrounds.  Something failing in one
browser instantiation that causes the SYS3175 closes
them all.  I've been routinely running with graphics,
Java, & Javascript disabled, although I turned them
all on to view the SHARE site.

In short, my effort to report this OLD problem in
4.04 while 4.61 was still in beta fell on TOTALLY
deaf ears.  The problem ended up in 4.61GA, as I
feared.  Otherwise, it seems to work pretty much the
way 4.04 did.  I don't notice much in the way of
change.  But then, I don't use it for E-mail or NNTP,
strictly for web browsing.  And that includes this
post, because I do Usenet at Deja News, which is
browser-based.  I wish there were a browser-only
packaging option.  Another request that finds deaf
ears.  Reminds me of a certain monopoly's claim their
"browser" is "integrated" into their "operating
system."

WARP 4, FP11, DDFP1, WR08620, IP08412, Java
1.1.8+1999/9/18 fixes, Communicator 4.61GA, PlugPack
3.0.

WW
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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Sep-99 04:33:13
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 problem

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article
<[e-mail]
s.fi>,
  [e-mail] (Roger Oksanen) wrote:
> I have only used Comm 4.61 GA for a few hours, and
now it broke down
> :(. First symptoms came when I visited
www.cs.helsinki.fi, and the
> page looked strange. I decided to close NS, but now
it's hung in it's
> exitlist ("... exiting thread 1"). My popuplog
shows the folowing
> error:

No problem here. WARP 4, FP11, DDFP1, WR08620,
IP08412, Java 1.1.8+1999/9/18 fixes, Communicator
4.61GA, PlugPack 3.0, FI 1.2.5.  Doesn't look like a
particularly complicated page.  One photo, one
cartoon (the Linux penguin), a bar of links, a
background image.  Didn't load too slow, even from
halfway round the world.

> 09-22-1999  19:06:19  SYS3175  PID 0053  TID 0001
Slot 0094
> D:\APP\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> c0000005
> 1d949d78
        <<<snip>>>

SO many times I've seen this abend.  I bet if you
load that page again after you reboot, it will come
up fine.  That's what happens to me all the time.
Read all the DOZENS & DOZENS of posts just in this
news group on the subject of this trap.  You may not
feel better, you may not find a solution, but at
least you won't feel alone.

WW
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From: [e-mail]                     23-Sep-99 05:18:22
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Re: Colors in NS461 messed up

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

"Frederick W. Gearhart" wrote:

> I had the same problem - glad I came across this message!  Out of curiosity,
> why does this problem occur?  btw, other than this problem, the new
> Communicator seems great, congrats!

Because we made the default font Courier New, but have
since found out that Courier New might not have been
installed.  Fixing it will be a matter of defaulting to Courier
if Courier New can't be found; however, until that fix is
available, the font-changing work-around will have to do.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                     23-Sep-99 05:24:07
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Re: NS 461 Drag and Drop lockup

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

frank schmittroth wrote:

> I have the NS 4.61 GA installed.  If I try to drag a link on a web page
> to somewhere including the desktop, the cursor changes to a form
> showing an illegal drop target.  It then stays that way and NS
> locks up.  After a few seconds, NS can be closed from the task-list
> popup menu.  Before its killed, any graphics that overlap the NS
> window are never repainted by the locked NS.
>
> May not be related, but I noticed a file, NS46DRAG.DLL, in the
> Netscape\Program directory and thought it somewhat curious that
> it is locked by another program even if I have not started NS after
> rebooting.

That sounds suspiciously like you have the old NS46DRAG
from the beta, not the correct one from the GA release.
What's the size and date on that DLL?  It should be 9/16
and 4220, if I remember correctly.  If it's the old one,
then the Workplace Shell has a hold of it, and you'll only
be able to delete it by booting to a command prompt;
we've since changed how that DLL loads so that won't
happen anymore.  You can replace that DLL with the
correct one from the GA, or re-install.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                                  23-Sep-99 10:29:15
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Comm 4.61 GA bug

From: Jyri Ivask <[e-mail]>

Hi!

When I visit a page:
http://www.online.ee
and then click the "Reload" button, Communicator freezes and can't be
closed. The system remains usable, but CAD is needed to shutdown.
In popuplog.os2:

09-23-1999  10:12:11  SYS3171  PID 003d  TID 0001  Slot 004b
C:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0000005
1f77e0f4
P1=00000001  P2=00000010  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000088  EBX=00000088  ECX=00000000  EDX=00000002
ESI=00000008  EDI=0112bd80
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=1fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=1fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005a:1f77e0f4  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=1fffffff
SS:ESP=004a:007fef34  SSACC=d0d3  SSLIM=1fffffff
EBP=007fefcc  FLG=00012246

IBMS332.DLL 0005:0000e0f4

When I follow any link on that page, then return to the page and click
reload, the crash does not follow any more.

Best regards

Jüri Ivask
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]                          23-Sep-99 07:45:00
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 06:08:14
Subj: Re: 2GB Limit WinOS2 Drive Limit...

From: [e-mail] (Ken Whiton)

*-* On 22 Sep 99  02:10:17,
*-* Thomas Carlyle wrote
*-* About 2GB Limit WinOS2 Drive Limit...

 > Does anyone know of a work around or upgrade to WinOS2 that will allow
 > me to use my entire 9.1GB HardDrive as one partition?  I know that
 > WinOS2 (Win 3.X) is limited by the old DOS 2GB drive limit,

    Grab a copy of 2GBFIX.ZIP from Hobbes.

ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/dos/2gbfix.zip
          or
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/dos/2gbfix.zip

2gbfix.zip         8962 1999/01/13  Fix for problems with drives over 2GB
                                    in OS/2 DOS sessions

The description only refers to DOS sessions, but the documentation
mentions both DOS and WIN-OS2 sessions.

 >                                                             but maybe
 > some one has knowledge of a recompiled drive file that uses thunking,
 > or some other modification to allow for the latest large drives (6GB,
 > 8GB, 10GB, etc.)

    Here's a brief excerpt from 2GBFIX.TXT that summarizes how it works:

= - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - =

                                             but usually the affected
program thinks that the volume or partition has insufficient disk space
because the result of the calculation is either zero or negative.

2GBFIX works around this by patching the appropriate DOS calls so that
they never return more than 2GB of total or free space,

= - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - =

    Incidentally, if that big drive is (will be) your boot drive, there
are also considerations regarding the location of your boot files.  As I
understand it, all files used or accessed in booting have to be located
within the first 1023 cylinders of the drive.  What that translates to in
terms of capacity may be dependent on your particular drive geometry, but
if you experience any problems booting from that drive this would be one
thing to investigate.

                                       Ken Whiton

    FIDO: 1:132/152
InterNet: [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]                           23-Sep-99 09:53:14
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 16:41:02
Subj: Comm 4.61 and Real Audio !

From: [e-mail] (Svein Sandersen)

I am very happy with the GA of Comm 4.61. Almost everything I've tried
is working.
BUT -- still the one, same problem remains:
When using Real Audio and going from one place to a new one,
Communicator doesn't check that a win-os2 session is started, running
RA. When going to a new place, we first have to close RA, and then go
to where we want. EVERY time I try this Comm will open another
session, not using the one already opened. Netscape 2.02 does this
very well.

Try this by going to www.radiotower.com.
Then choose some stations you want to listen to.
It is very annoying to have to close RA, just to be able to go to
another place.
Clicking on pre-defined stations on RealPlayer works ok, since this
doesn't involve Communicator.

This is the main reason I have to keep Netscape 2.02 on my machine.

Will there be a fix for this one Michael?
The problem has been reported several times (have e-mailed you
earlier), maybe not through the formal channels...

I think it is important to fix this, because a lot of places on the
internet sites requires RealPlayer or that other MediaPlayer.

Hoping for a fix sometime.

Thanks for a great job done with 4.61
It seems to be rock solid now.

Svein Sandersen


+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
I am using OS/2 Warp 4 because it is the best alternative today

(Remove deleteme in address)

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Sep-99 07:43:25
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 20:16:01
Subj: comm461 GA and ftp failures

From: David Rocks <[e-mail]>

    COMM 461 GA continues to fail downloading large files. It handles
small files fine but usually terminates without meesages sometime after
about 8mb. I'm running warp 4 with fixpak11, comm461GA, MPTS 5.50, TCPIP
stack 5.50, TCPIP applications 4.21.  This is why I keep 2.02 around.
Anyone have clues to the possible cause? Have there been fixes tp tcpip
or mpts since these levels?

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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Sep-99 08:10:19
  To: All                                               23-Sep-99 20:16:01
Subj: Re: NS 461 Drag and Drop lockup

From: "frank schmittroth" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 05:24:15 GMT, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

>
>frank schmittroth wrote:
>
>> I have the NS 4.61 GA installed.  If I try to drag a link on a web page
>> to somewhere including the desktop, the cursor changes to a form
>> showing an illegal drop target.  It then stays that way and NS
>> locks up.  After a few seconds, NS can be closed from the task-list
>> popup menu.  Before its killed, any graphics that overlap the NS
>> window are never repainted by the locked NS.
>>
>> May not be related, but I noticed a file, NS46DRAG.DLL, in the
>> Netscape\Program directory and thought it somewhat curious that
>> it is locked by another program even if I have not started NS after
>> rebooting.
>
>That sounds suspiciously like you have the old NS46DRAG
>from the beta, not the correct one from the GA release.
>What's the size and date on that DLL?  It should be 9/16
>and 4220, if I remember correctly.  If it's the old one,
>then the Workplace Shell has a hold of it, and you'll only
>be able to delete it by booting to a command prompt;
>we've since changed how that DLL loads so that won't
>happen anymore.  You can replace that DLL with the
>correct one from the GA, or re-install.
>
>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>IBM Corporation
>Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team
>
>
Jeff,
  Thanks for the reply.  Even though my NS46DRAG.DLL had the
correct size and date, I rebooted to a command prompt and
renamed it and then reinstalled/update) NS461.  Same result.

If I try to rename NS46DRAG.DLL from the WPS, I still get a
message that it's locked by another program so something has
a hold on it; although it doesn't show up in the output
of PSTAT /L.

I also did a full disk scan on ns46* and the only other nsdrag*
thing that turned up was a Ns46drag template.
frank.





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From: [e-mail]                      23-Sep-99 17:51:20
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:02
Subj: Netscape error in tcpip32.dll

From: [e-mail] (Carsten Frank)

09-22-1999  23:47:20  SYS3170  PID 0069  TID 0006  Slot 006d
C:\PROGRAMME\APPS\COMMUNICATOR\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
c0010002
1fe50027
P1=00000001  P2=XXXXXXXX  P3=XXXXXXXX  P4=XXXXXXXX
EAX=00000000  EBX=000008d2  ECX=011bf1c4  EDX=011bf0c8
ESI=011bf170  EDI=011bf11c
DS=0053  DSACC=d0f3  DSLIM=3fffffff
ES=0053  ESACC=d0f3  ESLIM=3fffffff
FS=150b  FSACC=00f3  FSLIM=00000030
GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
CS:EIP=005b:00000000  CSACC=d0df  CSLIM=3fffffff
SS:ESP=0053:011bef5c  SSACC=d0f3  SSLIM=3fffffff
EBP=011bf0e4  FLG=00012206

TCPIP32.DLL 0001:00000027


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From: [e-mail]                        23-Sep-99 11:23:04
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:02
Subj: Re: 4.61 Fonts

From: Felix Miata <[e-mail]>

Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

> "Frederick W. Gearhart" wrote:

> > I had the same problem - glad I came across this message!  Out of
curiosity,
> > why does this problem occur?  btw, other than this problem, the new
> > Communicator seems great, congrats!

> Because we made the default font Courier New, but have
> since found out that Courier New might not have been
> installed.  Fixing it will be a matter of defaulting to Courier
> if Courier New can't be found; however, until that fix is
> available, the font-changing work-around will have to do.

Can't you query for available fonts? Why do you assume any font exists?
Install allows deselection from the default installation list. IIRC, no
serif fonts are installed on my system. I've hated courier ever since I
saw my first Laserjet printout in 1985.
--
A man who lacks judgment derides his neighbor, but a man of
understanding holds his tongue.                Proverbs 11:12 NKJV

 Team OS/2

Felix Miata  ***  http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net

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From: [e-mail]                            23-Sep-99 19:29:26
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:03
Subj: Re: Feature Installer

From: [e-mail]

In <dVdG3.585$[e-mail]>, on 09/22/1999
   at 11:48 PM, [e-mail] said:

>(1.2.5) version crashes my system when I try to install.  After I
>close everything and the message comes up about  refreshing the
>desktop, the WPS shuts down and redraws and gives me an error
>message.  My system setup icons have red balls which say FS and I
>must reboot. Does anyone else have this happen?

Yes, since a few versions. Henk Kelder's CheckIni does this as well
when refreshing the desktop at the end. Might be hardware dependent?


Frits

--
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           there is no truth or reality
       but only aspects and interpretations
-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Sep-99 20:22:08
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:03
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA bug

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] wrote:
> Hi!
>
> When I visit a page:
> http://www.online.ee
> and then click the "Reload" button, Communicator
freezes and can't be
> closed. The system remains usable, but CAD is
needed to shutdown.
> In popuplog.os2:
>
> 09-23-1999  10:12:11  SYS3171  PID 003d  TID 0001
Slot 004b
> C:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE
> c0000005
        <<<snip>>>

No problem here.  WARP 4, FP11, DDFP1, WR08620,
IP08412, Communicator 4.61GA, Java 1.1.8+1999/9/18
fixes, FI 1.2.5, Matrox old Millennium PCI 4Meg with
2.23.082 driver, modem connection to the Internet.  I
did have to pull focus off the browser window to make
the page load (Jeff, are you listening?) but once I
did that, it loaded fine.  A reload similarly loaded
fine once I gave focus to something other than the
browser.  I didn't follow any of the links because
not only is that site in a language I don't
understand, I don't even recognize it.  What country
is ee?  Estonia?

As for the SYS3175, I am surprised I didn't see it
myself on this page because I have seen that trap
pretty often.  But it usually happens when I have
multiple browser windows open & certain
advertisements are . . . Never mind.  I've posted
that description at least 4 times.  No sense wasting
the bandwidth yet again.

WW
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From: [e-mail]                           23-Sep-99 14:35:16
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:03
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA bug

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Jyri Ivask wrote:

> IBMS332.DLL 0005:0000e0f4

That's the S3 video driver.  I'd suggest downloading the latest
driver for your video card.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                                 23-Sep-99 14:10:23
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:03
Subj: Jeff Kobal!! Refresh Help!!

From: Marc Chapuis <[e-mail]>

Jeff,

I've been looking all over the web for a solution to my problem and then

I
found your bug fix list for 4.61!

I am running os/2 warp and communicator 4.6 and have been having cache
and
reload problems like you discovered in 4.61.
Only when I hit reload do I get my text looking as it should even after
I
clear the cache.  Its annoying for the end user to hit
reload on each page.  We're running a website off our internal server
and
have been viewing a site made in dreamweaver on
an os/2 machine and viewing the content through communicator 4.6.

Have you found a fix for this that I  could apply to 4.6?  This is what
our
client has and
I don't see them upgrading unless 4.61 is free or relatively inexpensive

for
os/2 warp.  That's even if there's a fix for this problem in either
versions.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give.


Marc Chapuis

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From: [e-mail]                                22-Sep-99 23:45:18
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:03
Subj: Re: Non Y2K bug in OS/2?  :)

From: [e-mail] (Oliver Rick)

On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 Kris Kadela wrote:

>> Since FixPaks 35/6 the CLOCK driver corrects the century digits in the
>> BIOS.

> The story might have been different if the PCs were turned off during
> the rollover, not?

As far as I understand it, the CLOCK driver checks if the century byte is
plausible. If not, it will be corrected. This is independent from the BIOS
keeping the byte or resetting it after the next start.

   /Olli/
--
IBM OS/2 Warp Update Summary:
http://www.warpupdates.de/english/warpupdates.html

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From: [e-mail]                           23-Sep-99 17:02:16
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:03
Subj: Re: Jeff Kobal!! Refresh Help!!

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Marc Chapuis wrote:

> Have you found a fix for this that I  could apply to 4.6?  This is what
> our
> client has and
> I don't see them upgrading unless 4.61 is free or relatively inexpensive
> for
> os/2 warp.  That's even if there's a fix for this problem in either
> versions.

4.61 is free.  There is no 4.6 version for OS/2, so I don't understand
what you could already be running.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                           23-Sep-99 17:54:14
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:03
Subj: Re: NS 461 Drag and Drop lockup

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

frank schmittroth wrote:

> If I try to rename NS46DRAG.DLL from the WPS, I still get a
> message that it's locked by another program so something has
> a hold on it; although it doesn't show up in the output
> of PSTAT /L.
>
> I also did a full disk scan on ns46* and the only other nsdrag*
> thing that turned up was a Ns46drag template.

That still sounds like you have some remnants of the drag code
from the beta.  Here's what I suggest:

(1) Delete the NS46Drag object template

You can do this by checking off the "Template" option on the
Icon page of the Properties for that object, then drag the object
into a dummy folder, then drag the folder to the shredder.

(2) Delete the NS46DRAG object itself (Nowhere folder)

You can do this by running a CMD file with the following:

/* */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs

if SysDestroyObject("<WP_NS46DRAG>") then
  say 'NS46DRAG object deleted.'
else
  say 'NS46DRAG object could not be deleted.'

exit

(3) Reboot

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                                 23-Sep-99 16:33:28
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:04
Subj: Re: Jeff Kobal!! Refresh Help!!

From: Marc Chapuis <[e-mail]>

Apologies, I mean that we are running 4.04 with os/2 warp.  We're having
similar refresh cache problems I saw listed as a 4.61 bug.  Has this problem
been fixed in 4.61.  I see "fixed?" on the list.  If so is there an appoach
that was taken on 4.61 to fix this that could be applied to 4.04  while still
using 4.04.

Thanks Again

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:

> Marc Chapuis wrote:
>
> > Have you found a fix for this that I  could apply to 4.6?  This is what
> > our
> > client has and
> > I don't see them upgrading unless 4.61 is free or relatively inexpensive
> > for
> > os/2 warp.  That's even if there's a fix for this problem in either
> > versions.
>
> 4.61 is free.  There is no 4.6 version for OS/2, so I don't understand
> what you could already be running.
>
> Jeffrey S. Kobal
> IBM Corporation
> Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

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From: [e-mail]                                23-Sep-99 21:14:16
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:04
Subj: Re: Jeff Kobal!! Refresh Help!!

From: [e-mail]

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]> said:

>4.61 is free.  There is no 4.6 version for OS/2, so I don't understand what
you
>could already be running.

Jeff, I sould swear I saw 4.61 on the b2 release logo, but there is only 4.6
on
the GA.  Is my memory just bad?

Jim L
Remove XX from address to Email
Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws.


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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Sep-99 10:00:04
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:04
Subj: Problems on WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows file automatically rename

From: "oad" <[e-mail]>

Our workstations used OS/2 platform. Using WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows
installed on Novell server. The WordPerfect file automatically rename to
@xxxxxxx.wpd periodically.


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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Sep-99 17:15:28
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:04
Subj: Re: NS 461 Drag and Drop lockup

From: "frank schmittroth" <[e-mail]>

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:54:29 -0500, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

>
>frank schmittroth wrote:
>
>> If I try to rename NS46DRAG.DLL from the WPS, I still get a
>> message that it's locked by another program so something has
>> a hold on it; although it doesn't show up in the output
>> of PSTAT /L.
>>
>> I also did a full disk scan on ns46* and the only other nsdrag*
>> thing that turned up was a Ns46drag template.
>
>That still sounds like you have some remnants of the drag code
>from the beta.  Here's what I suggest:
>
>(1) Delete the NS46Drag object template
>
>You can do this by checking off the "Template" option on the
>Icon page of the Properties for that object, then drag the object
>into a dummy folder, then drag the folder to the shredder.
>
>(2) Delete the NS46DRAG object itself (Nowhere folder)
>
>You can do this by running a CMD file with the following:
>
>/* */
>call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
>call SysLoadFuncs
>
>if SysDestroyObject("<WP_NS46DRAG>") then
>  say 'NS46DRAG object deleted.'
>else
>  say 'NS46DRAG object could not be deleted.'
>
>exit
>
>(3) Reboot
>
>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>IBM Corporation
>Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team
>
>
Well I got rid of the NS46DRAG template okay.  But the
Rexx program won't delete the NS46DRAG object.  I'll repeat
it here just to confirm what I ran:
[C:\]type deldrag.cmd
  /* */
  call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
  call SysLoadFuncs

  if SysDestroyObject("<WP_NS46DRAG>") then
    say 'NS46DRAG object deleted.'
  else
    say 'NS46DRAG object could not be deleted.'

  exit
--
I've also found that if I uninstall NS461, reboot, reinstall,
_don't_ reboot; _then_ drag n drop works okay until the
following reboot when something apparently latches on
to NS46DRAG.DLL.  (It shows up in pstat/a immediately
following a reboot but only in the list of dll's, not as
a linked library for a running process.)
--
I really appreciate the time Jeff has already spent on this.
Could someone else suggest a way I might figure out what
is loading NS46DRAG.DLL before Netscape gets to it?

In general the new Netscape works very very well.  Big
improvement.

Frank.


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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Sep-99 10:19:27
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:04
Subj: Problem on WordPerfect file rename automatically

From: "oad" <[e-mail]>

Our workstations used OS/2 platform. Using WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows
installed on Novell server. The WordPerfect file automatically rename to
@xxxxxxx.wpd periodically.



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From: [e-mail]                              23-Sep-99 23:33:03
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:26:04
Subj: Re: HP 680C in Win-OS/2

From: "Roberto D. Cucco" <[e-mail]>

I can install the Win 3.x driver and it say that annoying popup message but
when
I print something It says Low memory which is Impossible and I had tried
thousands of Win-OS/2 configurations with no results, so I thought ...This
drivers sucks!

Jim Parker wrote:

> Roberto D. Cucco wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a problem here, ok, I have installed in my Warp 4 an HP 680C
> > printer with its last driver downloaded from Device Driver Pack, but I
> > can't print in Win-OS/2 because it doesn't recognise it, What can i do?
> > I can`t install the MS Windows 3.11 drivers because is uncompatible...
> >
> > ...help...
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >   Roberto Daniel Cucco <[e-mail]>
> >   SIDER
> >
> >   Roberto Daniel Cucco
> >   SIDER  <[e-mail]>
> >          Netscape Conference Address
> >          Netscape Conference DLS Server
> >   Additional Information:
> >   Last Name Cucco
> >   First NameRoberto Daniel
> >   Version   2.1
>
>   I have an HP682C printer and have no problems. I don't know why you think
> you can't install the Windows 3.x drivers in Win-OS/2. I did just that. I
> installed theWin 3.x printer dirvers to LPT1 in Win-OS/2. Then I went to
> Win-OS/2 main --> control panel --> printers --> connect. Then connected my
> printer to LPT1.OS2. Whenever I fire up Win-OS/2 I get an annoying popup
> message saying that the driver is not installed properly but everything
works
> fine. I know there is a way to make that message stop coming up but I've
> forgotten what it is.
>
> Good luck
> Jim

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From: [e-mail]                                   24-Sep-99 03:27:16
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:36:17
Subj: NS 4.61GA--search boxes  Was: Colors in NS461 messed up

From: [e-mail]   (Joe Kovacs)

In <[e-mail]>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>
>"Frederick W. Gearhart" wrote:
>
>> I had the same problem - glad I came across this message!  Out of
curiosity,
>> why does this problem occur?  btw, other than this problem, the new
>> Communicator seems great, congrats!
>
>Because we made the default font Courier New, but have
>since found out that Courier New might not have been
>installed.  Fixing it will be a matter of defaulting to Courier
>if Courier New can't be found; however, until that fix is
>available, the font-changing work-around will have to do.

Woohoo!  Good post.  It solved a related problem here.

On these sites, for example...

www.ebay.com
www.bmtmicro.com
www.indelibleblue.com

..the search boxes don't work with NS 4.61GA.

There's no box in which to write what to search for.  I mean,
the box is one dimensional, which is fascinating, but it can't
be written into, not in my world. The Search button works OK,
but then the site searches on nothing.

This worked OK with 4.61b2.

I went to Preferences-->Fonts and changed the Variable Width
Printer Fonts to 8, and nothing.

Went back and made the Courier New into Courier, and Bingo!
the Search boxes are back in place.

It's Warp v4 FP11 with Peer, wr08620, Java 1.18.  NS 4.61GA
installed perfectly, updating 4.61b2, and is running well.
PnP installed perfectly too.  The 4.61b2 downloaded both great
files flawlessely.  There are no entries in popuplog.os2
related to NS.

Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]                     24-Sep-99 03:28:19
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:36:17
Subj: Re: NS 461 Drag and Drop lockup

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>


frank schmittroth wrote:

>
> Well I got rid of the NS46DRAG template okay.  But the
> Rexx program won't delete the NS46DRAG object.

It might be gone then.  Look in C:\nowhere and see if you
see a 0-byte file with NS46Drag in the title.  If not, then
the object is gone.

The Workplace Shell is certainly the one "latching onto"
the NS46DRAG DLL at boot-up.  If you've removed the
template and the object, then the only other possibility
is that the NS46Drag class is somehow still registered in
the Shell.  You'd need some utility to view the registered
classes to be able to get rid of it, though....

It's a good thing we aren't creating classes and objects
in the Shell anymore.... whew!

> I really appreciate the time Jeff has already spent on this.

It's a pleasure to help someone receptive to suggestions
who seems to know what they're talking about without
drawing unfounded conclusions.... <grin>

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                                   23-Sep-99 23:33:10
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:36:17
Subj: Re: comm461 GA and ftp failures

From: Kris Kadela <[e-mail]>

I have backleveled my TCP/IP from 4.2 to 4.0 and Comm 4.61 has never
dropped a download since. Several other apps work better too (Inetrnet
Gate and Sockd).

Tim Martin wrote:
>
> David Rocks wrote:
>
> >     COMM 461 GA continues to fail downloading large files. It handles
> > small files fine but usually terminates without meesages sometime after
> > about 8mb. I'm running warp 4 with fixpak11, comm461GA, MPTS 5.50, TCPIP
> > stack 5.50, TCPIP applications 4.21.  This is why I keep 2.02 around.
> > Anyone have clues to the possible cause? Have there been fixes tp tcpip
> > or mpts since these levels?
>
> Gee, I don't find that.  I've downloaded several files over 10 megs
> using GA4.61 and had no problem.

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From: [e-mail]                       23-Sep-99 22:47:25
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:36:17
Subj: Re: Jeff Kobal!! Refresh Help!!

From: Edward Jaffe <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
> Jeff, I sould swear I saw 4.61 on the b2 release logo, but there is only 4.6
on
> the GA.  Is my memory just bad?

I'm running the B2 release and it says 4.6 on the logo.

--
| Edward E. Jaffe                  | Voice: [phone] x318     |
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From: [e-mail]                               23-Sep-99 23:01:07
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:36:17
Subj: Re: comm461 GA and ftp failures

From: Tim Martin <[e-mail]>

Ahh... that may explain it.  I'm at 4.1.

Kris Kadela wrote:

> I have backleveled my TCP/IP from 4.2 to 4.0 and Comm 4.61 has never
> dropped a download since. Several other apps work better too (Inetrnet
> Gate and Sockd).
>
> Tim Martin wrote:
> >
> > David Rocks wrote:
> >
> > >     COMM 461 GA continues to fail downloading large files. It handles
> > > small files fine but usually terminates without meesages sometime after
> > > about 8mb. I'm running warp 4 with fixpak11, comm461GA, MPTS 5.50, TCPIP
> > > stack 5.50, TCPIP applications 4.21.  This is why I keep 2.02 around.
> > > Anyone have clues to the possible cause? Have there been fixes tp tcpip
> > > or mpts since these levels?
> >
> > Gee, I don't find that.  I've downloaded several files over 10 megs
> > using GA4.61 and had no problem.




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From: [e-mail]                                  24-Sep-99 08:48:22
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:36:17
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA bug

From: Jyri Ivask <[e-mail]>

"Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote:

> Jyri Ivask wrote:
>
> > IBMS332.DLL 0005:0000e0f4
>
> That's the S3 video driver.  I'd suggest downloading the latest
> driver for your video card.

Hi Jeffrey.

 have tried several versions of drivers for my display driver
(S3Trio3D, chipset 365). The drivers from Warp DDPak, S3 website and
from my Ready-to-Configure CD (I have IBM PC 300GL) - all are version
4.00.26, or the latest provided from the IBM support website (4.10.05
and 4.10.08) provide the same result on that webpage www.online.ee.
However, if I remember correctly, the beta1&beta2 did not crash.
Anyway, thank you responding.

Jüri Ivask
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail]                               23-Sep-99 22:07:09
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 04:36:17
Subj: Re: comm461 GA and ftp failures

From: Tim Martin <[e-mail]>

David Rocks wrote:

>     COMM 461 GA continues to fail downloading large files. It handles
> small files fine but usually terminates without meesages sometime after
> about 8mb. I'm running warp 4 with fixpak11, comm461GA, MPTS 5.50, TCPIP
> stack 5.50, TCPIP applications 4.21.  This is why I keep 2.02 around.
> Anyone have clues to the possible cause? Have there been fixes tp tcpip
> or mpts since these levels?

Gee, I don't find that.  I've downloaded several files over 10 megs
using GA4.61 and had no problem.



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From: [e-mail]                                24-Sep-99 16:20:22
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 10:53:13
Subj: install Warp 4.0 through PCMCIA CD-Rom

From: Terence Cheng <[e-mail]>

I'd like to install Warp 4.0 to my notebook throgh a AHA1460 PCMCIA Scsi
card and attach with an external CD-ROM. I'd download the install disk
update from:
http://service.software.ibm.com/os2ddpak/html/os_2inst/ibmcorpo/index.htm

I tried the PCMCIA Scsi with Intel PCMCIA disk.
However, when boot from the disk, it show
invalid switch...
Could anyone told me what is the problem?
The PCMCIA controller is Ricoh RL5C475 CardBus

Best Regards,

Terence Cheng
Systems Engineer
________________________________________
NIKOYO (HK) Limited    Tel: [phone]  Fax: [phone]
mailto:[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail]                                    23-Sep-99 21:41:27
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:04
Subj: Re: NS 461 Drag and Drop lockup

From: "frank schmittroth" <[e-mail]>

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:28:38 GMT, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote:

>
>frank schmittroth wrote:
>
>>
>> Well I got rid of the NS46DRAG template okay.  But the
>> Rexx program won't delete the NS46DRAG object.
>
>It might be gone then.  Look in C:\nowhere and see if you
>see a 0-byte file with NS46Drag in the title.  If not, then
>the object is gone.
>
>The Workplace Shell is certainly the one "latching onto"
>the NS46DRAG DLL at boot-up.  If you've removed the
>template and the object, then the only other possibility
>is that the NS46Drag class is somehow still registered in
>the Shell.  You'd need some utility to view the registered
>classes to be able to get rid of it, though....
>
>Jeffrey S. Kobal
>IBM Corporation
>Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team
>

Jeff,

I researched the Rexx commands a bit to get the following output.

  Class 161  is StarWriterHtmlFile SOAGENT
  Class 162  is StarWriterFile SOAGENT
  Class 163  is StarOfficeAgent SOAGENT
  Class 164  is Ns46drag D:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NS46DRAG.DLL
  Class 165  is MMInetMgr INETMGR

I then ran a Rexx program to deregister Ns46drag.
Voila!  I can now Drag-n-Drop.  Guess I had the tools, but not
the expertise to follow up without your help. Thanks a bunch.
Wonder where that came from?  I did run some beta tests for
your team.

Again great program.  I see elsewhere that the stability of
the OS/2 port is superior to other platforms.

frank.


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From: [e-mail]                              23-Sep-99 23:25:24
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:04
Subj: NS4.61 semi-bug on install

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

I guess this is halfway between a bug and an unwanted "feature". When
you install NS4.61 (which is working fine, thank you, although I still
miss a very few things from 2.02) without letting it update or overlay
an existing 4.04 installation it hijacks the existing users.

It wouldn't be so bad if it copied them, or asked so you know what's
going on, instead it just uses them where they are, in the 4.04
directory. When you delete the 4.04 directory ... well you know what
happens, no users left and a pain in the backside to fix! I know this is
because NSCP.INI only has one Users application, however I think each NS
install should have its own Users key instead, and have the install for
a new version *copy* the user information.

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Sep-99 01:45:24
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:04
Subj: Newer version of Win-OS/2?

From: Michael DeBusk <[e-mail]>

When I installed WordPerfect 7 Suite for Windows 3.1 on my Warp 4
Ficpack 10 system, none of the apps would run. Several of them gave me
the error message, "This program needs a newer version of WIn-OS/2."

I recently tried to install Internet Explorer for Windows 3.1 and got
the same error.

What do I need to correct?

--
Mike DeBusk     North East, Maryland USA     Team OS/2
Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences

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From: [e-mail]                                    24-Sep-99 07:15:12
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:04
Subj: Re: IBM Anti Virus

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <c1.2b8.2SHrfr$[e-mail]>,
  [e-mail] (Joe Kovacs) wrote:
> In <[e-mail]>, Alan Beagley
<[e-mail]> writes:
        <<<snip>>>
> >Many of the people on the Compuserve OS/2 forums
(fora?) who received and tried
> >Nortaon AntiVirus for OS/2 don't like it, so I
never bothered pushing Symantec to
> >send me one.
>
> In hindsight, you shouldn't go by that.  The OS/2
community is
> not prepared to accept Symantec
        <<<snip>>>

Really?  And what scientific foundation do you build
that sweeping statement on?  I can speak for this
member of the OS/2 community.  I have no Symantec
products currently, so I have no opinion one way or
the other about their software.  I didn't like the
fact that their web site was singularly unhelpful for
me, but several prods of their webmaster did result
in a polite response assuring me that I could get a
single-user AV product from them if I called a
certain 800 number.  See my other post on this thread
for the details.

So don't go making such statements when you haven't
done the research.

> If you need an AV, try it and judge for yourself.

An eminently sensible piece of advice nonetheless.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                    24-Sep-99 07:47:25
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:04
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA bug

From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser <[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>,
  "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:
> > As for the SYS3175, I am surprised I didn't see
it
> > myself on this page because I have seen that trap
> > pretty often.
        <<<snip>>>
> SYS3175 is the TYPE of trap (access violation);
just
> because you see a SYS3175 and so does someone
> else, that doesn't mean it's the same problem.  You
> have to compare the CS:EIP and module name (at
> the bottom of the trap information) before you can
> say you are having the "same problem".

Fair enough.  I know how to read mainframe dumps, not
PC traps.  All these SYS3175s have this in common:
DS=0053
ES=0053
FS=150b
If that doesn't mean anything, OK.

Meanwhile, I have a better idea.  Get yourself a
Pentium 133 with plenty of DASD, RAM, video power,
with a dial-up modem connection to the Internet,
install WARP 4 with all the current maintenance and
the Communicator 4.61GA, and start surfing to web
pages simultaneously in multiple browser
instantiations.  Make sure you have image loading,
Java, & Javascript turned on.  Make sure you get at
least 5 browsers going, maybe 8 or 9.  Do it at Deja
News.  Make all the windows be trying to download
different Usenet articles at the same time.  Really
push it.  Lots of right click on links & Open in new
window.  Do it for a couple of hours.  Report your
results here.

A few moments ago, I read a post from Mike Kaply on
the subject of a Real Audio issue.  He said, in
effect, gee we seem to have missed that one.  We'll
look into it.

THAT'S ALL I WANT, JEFF.

That's all I've ever wanted, since I started
reporting this problem with the previous release as
early as a couple of days after it hit the streets
this past February.  Just make a good faith effort to
duplicate it.  Then I'll shut up because I'll feel
good you're working on it.  If I don't see the
correction for 3 months, OK.  You've acknowledged it
& you're working on it.  That's all I ask.

WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [e-mail]                                   24-Sep-99 11:32:03
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:05
Subj: Re: Netscape 4.61 printing problem

From: Meinolf Sondermann <[e-mail]>


Baden Kudrenecky wrote:
>
>    I am TOTALLY bafflemated now!  Summarising:
>
>    Everything used to work well.
>
>    Yesterday, I did a Selective Install for MMPM, trying
> (foolishly) to get the VB.EXE installed.  I then booted Solaris,
> and tried, unsuccessfully, to get my networking going.  When I
> re-booted OS/2, had I lost my "Desktop", for some reason, and I
> had to build (many hour excursion) a new one.
>
>    I also reinstalled FP_40, as I had done a "Selective
> Install", which may have originally screwed up my "Desktop".
>
>    Today, I successfully printed:
>
> copy job \\UNC_name
> from EPM
> from WebExplorer
> from HotJava
> from Netscape 2.02
> from Netscape 4.61 with another printer driver (IBM Null)
>
>    I cannot print from Netscape 4.61 Beta2 to the Laserjet
> driver 30.453.  I have TOTALLY re-installed Netscape 4.61, and
> reviewed the printer settings ad nauseam, but the output to file
> is continuously '0 bytes'
>
> bafflemated!
>
> baden
>
> [e-mail]
> http://baden.nu/
> OS/2, Solaris & Linux


I had the same problem with NS 4.04: Print jobs never arrived at spooler.
Once I had installed a new driver the problem was solved. The version I have
is 30.694 .
Get the newest laserjet.exe from the device driver pack. The version there
might be updated again.

Good luck
Meinolf

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From: [e-mail]                               24-Sep-99 10:21:26
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:05
Subj: Re: Newer version of Win-OS/2?

From: [e-mail] (Mark Klebanoff)

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 05:45:49, Michael DeBusk <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> When I installed WordPerfect 7 Suite for Windows 3.1 on my Warp 4
> Ficpack 10 system, none of the apps would run. Several of them gave me
> the error message, "This program needs a newer version of WIn-OS/2."
>
> I recently tried to install Internet Explorer for Windows 3.1 and got
> the same error.
>
> What do I need to correct?
>
Do you have a real version of Win 3.1 on your disk?  If so, is the
path statement in the autoexec.bat file pointing to WinOS/2 and not
real Win 3.1

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From: [e-mail]                                23-Sep-99 21:38:22
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:05
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 Bugs

From: [e-mail] (Jerry McBride)

In article <[e-mail]>,
Felix Miata <[e-mail]> wrote:
>To add to or confirm those on
>http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html
>

--- snip ---

>loopback device (127.0.0.1) takes forever to time out
>

Felix! What's this with the localhost? I run am currently developing a program
based on client/server over the localhost and I've been running into time outs
from hell lately... How have you linked this to NetScape? Under what
conditions
does this effect localhost time outs?

You really got my attention on this one... ;')

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*
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From: [e-mail]                                  24-Sep-99 11:13:18
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:05
Subj: NS 4.61 Composer Irritants

From: Jim Stuyck <[e-mail]>

Here are a few "undesired" characteristics of the newest Composer
component:

1)  For a "table within a table", composer adds an " " in front
    of the "</td>" which adds a blank line.  I remove that " " and
    the tables display the way I want 'em to display.  Reinvoke
    Composer, that " " gets reinserted.
2)  Within a table, for alignment purposes, I place one or more
     "<br> " lines.  Table displays the way I like it.  Invoke
    Composer and those lines get removed, sometimes the last of
    them being replaced with "<p> ".
3)  Composer replaced all HTML tags that were capitalized (under
     Composer 4.04 with lowercase tags.

I'd prefer that Composer leave existing HTML alone.  I will probably
start searching for another program, one to replace Composer.

There are other bugs, like fairly frequent SYS3175's that cause ".DMP"
after ".DMP" in \OS2\SYSTEM\RAS.  Can't stop that without a C-A-D.
Haven't figured out why -- initial suspicion was starting 4.61 when another
copy of 4.61 hadn't quite completed shutting down -- but I'm not sure of
that.

Jim Stuyck

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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Sep-99 11:24:29
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:05
Subj: Re: Feature Installer

From: [e-mail]

Could be.  What is your platform?  Mine's an AMD K6-3d, 64 meg, on an ABIT
TX-5.  I run a Matrox Millenium I with 4 meg


In <37ea63d1$1$s.q.nyvax$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
>In <dVdG3.585$[e-mail]>, on 09/22/1999
>   at 11:48 PM, [e-mail] said:
>
>>(1.2.5) version crashes my system when I try to install.  After I
>>close everything and the message comes up about  refreshing the
>>desktop, the WPS shuts down and redraws and gives me an error
>>message.  My system setup icons have red balls which say FS and I
>>must reboot. Does anyone else have this happen?
>
>Yes, since a few versions. Henk Kelder's CheckIni does this as well
>when refreshing the desktop at the end. Might be hardware dependent?
>
>
>Frits
>
>--
>----->everything is a cooperation of aspects<-----
>           there is no truth or reality
>       but only aspects and interpretations
>-------------->Copyright 1999 Sysali<-------------
>  created  on OS/2 Warp 4.11 using MR/2 Ice 1.65
>

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From: [e-mail]                  24-Sep-99 13:55:24
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 12:10:05
Subj: os2 on large HD

From: fredrik wiberg <[e-mail]>

hey,
i'm having problems installing os2 warp v3 on  a >8 GB HD.
i'm getting errormessages saying that HD partitions are too small.
i understand on the ongoing discussions that there is a bug making it
important to install os2
on the first 1024 cylinders and that the errormessages are false.
how do i solve this?
also is it possible to use win95/98 with os/2?

/fredrik

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From: [e-mail]                          24-Sep-99 14:39:14
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 13:22:29
Subj: Re: os2 on large HD

From: [e-mail] (Annie K.)

On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:55:48, fredrik wiberg
<[e-mail]> wrote:

:i'm having problems installing os2 warp v3 on  a >8 GB HD.
:i'm getting errormessages saying that HD partitions are too small.
:i understand on the ongoing discussions that there is a bug making it
:important to install os2
:on the first 1024 cylinders and that the errormessages are false.
:how do i solve this?

 ftp://ps.boulder.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/os2ddpak/idedasd.exe

:also is it possible to use win95/98 with os/2?

 It's possible to have them both installed on the same hard drive, each in
their own partition. Is that what you're asking?

--
Anthropomorphic Hamburger

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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Sep-99 10:32:20
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 13:22:29
Subj: HELP:Can't get to DOS programs

From: [e-mail]

Hi;

When I click on an icon of any of my DOS programs  I get a splash scrren
that asks if the path is correct.  If I try to start a DOS program form
the command line I get a "out of memory" remark.

I run Warp 4, Fix Pack 11.  Warp is on its own HPFS partition and the DOS
programs are on their own FAT partition.

Anyone have any hints they can give me?

I have run chkdsk /F:3 several times

Regards,

Whit
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From: [e-mail]                              24-Sep-99 08:10:09
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 13:22:29
Subj: Re: HELP:Can't get to DOS programs

From: "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:
> When I click on an icon of any of my DOS programs  I get a splash scrren
> that asks if the path is correct.  If I try to start a DOS program form
> the command line I get a "out of memory" remark.
>
> I run Warp 4, Fix Pack 11.  Warp is on its own HPFS partition and the DOS
> programs are on their own FAT partition.
>
> Anyone have any hints they can give me?

Have you rebooted since the problem started? I know we don't like to
reboot OS/2, however sometimes it helps! Have you installed anything
recently, or edited CONFIG.SYS?

Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 11:08:10
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Composer Irritants

From: Michael Kaply <[e-mail]>

That would definitely cause a trap. Please post the SYS3175

Mike
IBM

Jim Stuyck wrote:

>
>There are other bugs, like fairly frequent SYS3175's that cause ".DMP"
>after ".DMP" in \OS2\SYSTEM\RAS.  Can't stop that without a C-A-D.
>Haven't figured out why -- initial suspicion was starting 4.61 when another
>copy of 4.61 hadn't quite completed shutting down -- but I'm not sure of
>that.

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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 11:02:03
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 Bugs

From: Michael Kaply <[e-mail]>

sorry guys, but localhost is supposed to take forever (30 seconds) to timeout.

We can't figure out why it worked in 4.04 but it shouldn't have. Note
127.0.0.1 did
NOT work on 4.04, only localhost.

When you type localhost, you are attempting to connect to a web server on your
machine. Because there is no web server running, netscape takes 35 seconds to
time
out. This is exactly the result you should see. It is the same situation if
you
connected to a machine on the network that did not have a web server running.
This
happens on all Netscape platforms.

If people are looking for a way to have localhost time out immediately,
someone
should write a dummy web server that accepts connections and then rejects
them.
Then anyone who wants an immediate timeout on localhost would run this server.

Mike Kaply
IBM

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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 12:07:15
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: Jeff Kobal!! Refresh Help!!

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] wrote:

> Jeff, I sould swear I saw 4.61 on the b2 release logo, but there is only 4.6
on
> the GA.  Is my memory just bad?

The logo ("splash") screen says 4.6, but the version in About: says 4.61;
this is how it was throughout the betas, and how it is on the Windows
version of 4.61 as well.  At one point, we hadn't yet moved up to the
version 4.61 code, and still had 4.6 in the About: screen; a screen-shot
of that version made it to the Internet.... but that was before the first
beta.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 12:04:21
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: Jeff Kobal!! Refresh Help!!

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Marc Chapuis wrote:

> Apologies, I mean that we are running 4.04 with os/2 warp.  We're having
> similar refresh cache problems I saw listed as a 4.61 bug.  Has this problem
> been fixed in 4.61.

I couldn't say for certain, since I don't know what your "similar"
problem is.  My best suggestion would be to give it a try and see!

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team

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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 11:05:08
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: NS4.61 semi-bug on install

From: Michael Kaply <[e-mail]>

I don't agree at all. A typical situation is an install over 4.04 which
reuses user information.

We specifically designed 4.61 so that 4.04 and 4.61 could share user
information, and be installed at the same time.

If we made copies, adding a bookmark to 4.04 wouldn't add it in 4.61.

Mike Kaply
IBM

"Graham C. Norris" wrote:

>I guess this is halfway between a bug and an unwanted "feature". When
>you install NS4.61 (which is working fine, thank you, although I still
>miss a very few things from 2.02) without letting it update or overlay
>an existing 4.04 installation it hijacks the existing users.
>
>It wouldn't be so bad if it copied them, or asked so you know what's
>going on, instead it just uses them where they are, in the 4.04
>directory. When you delete the 4.04 directory ... well you know what
>happens, no users left and a pain in the backside to fix! I know this is
>because NSCP.INI only has one Users application, however I think each NS
>install should have its own Users key instead, and have the install for
>a new version *copy* the user information.
>
>Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 12:33:02
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Composer Irritants

From: Michael Kaply <[e-mail]>

The composer things are definitely same as Windows.

That's why I write my HTML by hand.

The Nethelp slowness is again same as Windows. It's just a really slow help
system.

Why do you have  your system set to take a dump every time it traps? Sounds
pretty
counterproductive to me.

Mike

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From: [e-mail]                                   24-Sep-99 13:38:06
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA--search boxes  Was: Colors in NS461 messed up

From: [e-mail]   (Joe Kovacs)

In <c1.2b8.2SJ2c4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]   (Joe Kovacs)
writes:
>In <[e-mail]>, "Jeffrey S. Kobal"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>"Frederick W. Gearhart" wrote:
>>
>>> I had the same problem - glad I came across this message!  Out of
curiosity,
>>> why does this problem occur?  btw, other than this problem, the new
>>> Communicator seems great, congrats!
>>
>>Because we made the default font Courier New, but have
>>since found out that Courier New might not have been
>>installed.  Fixing it will be a matter of defaulting to Courier
>>if Courier New can't be found; however, until that fix is
>>available, the font-changing work-around will have to do.
>
>Woohoo!  Good post.  It solved a related problem here.
>
>On these sites, for example...
>
>www.ebay.com
>www.bmtmicro.com
>www.indelibleblue.com
>
>...the search boxes don't work with NS 4.61GA.
>
>There's no box in which to write what to search for.  I mean,
>the box is one dimensional, which is fascinating, but it can't
>be written into, not in my world. The Search button works OK,
>but then the site searches on nothing.
>
>This worked OK with 4.61b2.
>
>I went to Preferences-->Fonts and changed the Variable Width
>Printer Fonts to 8, and nothing.
>
>Went back and made the Courier New into Courier, and Bingo!
>the Search boxes are back in place.

That bug is trouble.  I had put feedback up on eBay for
someone.  The box was in place, my typing went in the box, and
it did everything but go onto his listing.


Joe Kovacs
Guelph Ontario Canada


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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 11:53:03
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: NS 461 Drag and Drop lockup

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

frank schmittroth wrote:

> I then ran a Rexx program to deregister Ns46drag.
> Voila!  I can now Drag-n-Drop.  Guess I had the tools, but not
> the expertise to follow up without your help. Thanks a bunch.

Guess I should've done a little more research myself.  Here
is the complete REXX file needed:

/* */
call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'
call SysLoadFuncs

if SysDestroyObject("<WP_NS46DRAG>") then
  say 'NS46DRAG object deleted.'

if SysDeRegisterObjectClass("Ns46drag") then
  say 'NS46DRAG class deregistered.'

exit


> Wonder where that came from?  I did run some beta tests for
> your team.

That's exactly where it came from.  The beta should have
cleaned that up for you, but didn't.  Perhaps the last time
you ran the beta, it crashed?  That would've left this stuff
lying around....

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 12:02:26
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 GA bug

From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" <[e-mail]>

Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote:

> Fair enough.  I know how to read mainframe dumps, not
> PC traps.  All these SYS3175s have this in common:
> DS=0053
> ES=0053
> FS=150b
> If that doesn't mean anything, OK.

No, that doesn't mean anything.  Pretty much every trap
with every 32-bit application on OS/2 will have those
values in those registers.  The important one is the EIP,
which is the Instruction Pointer.  If you aren't executing
the same instruction, you don't have the same trap.

> Meanwhile, I have a better idea.  Get yourself a
> [snip bunch of stuff that I don't have the resources to
> obtain or time to do]....

You call that a better idea?

> A few moments ago, I read a post from Mike Kaply on
> the subject of a Real Audio issue.  He said, in
> effect, gee we seem to have missed that one.  We'll
> look into it.
>
> THAT'S ALL I WANT, JEFF.

Because that was a simple issue that could be
succinctly described and easily recreated by anyone,
and which we could pass off to the service team to
be fixed in a fixpack.  Neither Mike nor I are
supposed to be sitting here recreating problems
reported on Usenet; if it's something simple, we'll
give it a look-see to give service a hand in a quick
resolution, but that's it.

> That's all I ask.

I'm afraid you're asking too much.  We're happy to
help in a limited fashion, but this is not our job.  If
you want that kind of technical support, you'll have
to go through the proper channels.

Jeffrey S. Kobal
IBM Corporation
Netscape Communicator for OS/2 - Development Team


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From: [e-mail]                                  24-Sep-99 18:17:14
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Composer Irritants

From: Jim Stuyck <[e-mail]>


Michael Kaply wrote:

> The composer things are definitely same as Windows.

Someone ought to speak to the Composer coders, then.  :-(


> That's why I write my HTML by hand.

I used to be of the same opinion (well, we called it "GML") but, nowadays,
I lean toward the tools that make life simple.  That's why I'd like to use
your tools, but would prefer to have them leave things alone when the
HTML doesn't need to be fiddled with.


> The Nethelp slowness is again same as Windows. It's just a really slow help
system.

<sigh>


> Why do you have  your system set to take a dump every time it traps? Sounds
pretty
> counterproductive to me.

Leftover from the days when I tested a lot of code,  when developers needed
dumps, and when they could count on me to provide them.  Seems those days
are gone, and as of  now, so is the dumping.

Jim Stuyck

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From: [e-mail]                                  24-Sep-99 17:18:21
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 15:24:08
Subj: Re: NS4.61 semi-bug on install

From: Jim Stuyck <[e-mail]>

FWIW, I found installation of 4.61 over 4.04 did things "right" by me.  There
may have been a few ".PKG" files left behind, but that's all I recall.

That is, with one exception.  There was no "news-flavor" object created
in the Netscape folder.  I made one, myself, by guessing that the parameter
string "news -l en_US" would work.  I also found the news-related icon and
applied that to the program object.  This gives me something approaching
what I'd really like.  As it is, I have to click on the "+" next to "news"
then
wait till the first time I double-click on a newsgroup before I get to the
three-part window that lets me single-click on a newsgroup or an article's
header.  This means, to shut down, I have TWO windows to close.

I'm not sure I *like* that graphic that appears initially where the
articles show up, and don't see a way to avoid it.

Jim Stuyck

Michael Kaply wrote:

> I don't agree at all. A typical situation is an install over 4.04 which
> reuses user information.
>
> We specifically designed 4.61 so that 4.04 and 4.61 could share user
> information, and be installed at the same time.
>
> If we made copies, adding a bookmark to 4.04 wouldn't add it in 4.61.
>
> Mike Kaply
> IBM
>
> "Graham C. Norris" wrote:
>
> >I guess this is halfway between a bug and an unwanted "feature". When
> >you install NS4.61 (which is working fine, thank you, although I still
> >miss a very few things from 2.02) without letting it update or overlay
> >an existing 4.04 installation it hijacks the existing users.
> >
> >It wouldn't be so bad if it copied them, or asked so you know what's
> >going on, instead it just uses them where they are, in the 4.04
> >directory. When you delete the 4.04 directory ... well you know what
> >happens, no users left and a pain in the backside to fix! I know this is
> >because NSCP.INI only has one Users application, however I think each NS
> >install should have its own Users key instead, and have the install for
> >a new version *copy* the user information.
> >
> >Graham.

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From: [e-mail]                                24-Sep-99 13:52:09
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 20:01:11
Subj: Re: Newer version of Win-OS/2?

From: Michael DeBusk <[e-mail]>

Mark Klebanoff wrote:

> Do you have a real version of Win 3.1 on your disk?  If so, is the
> path statement in the autoexec.bat file pointing to WinOS/2 and not
> real Win 3.1

No, I don't have a real version of Win 3.1 installed.

--
Mike DeBusk     North East, Maryland USA     Team OS/2
Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences

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From: [e-mail]                    24-Sep-99 18:48:13
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 20:01:11
Subj: Re: Newer version of Win-OS/2?

From: [e-mail] (John Hong)

Michael DeBusk ([e-mail]) wrote:
: When I installed WordPerfect 7 Suite for Windows 3.1 on my Warp 4
: Ficpack 10 system, none of the apps would run. Several of them gave me
: the error message, "This program needs a newer version of WIn-OS/2."

    Install the latest patch for WP7.

ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/wpwin/7-31/


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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Sep-99 15:02:13
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 20:01:11
Subj: Re: HELP:Can't get to DOS programs

From: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]>, on 09/24/99
   at 08:10 AM, "Graham C. Norris" <[e-mail]> said:

>[e-mail] wrote:
>> When I click on an icon of any of my DOS programs  I get a splash scrren
>> that asks if the path is correct.  If I try to start a DOS program form
>> the command line I get a "out of memory" remark.
>>
>> I run Warp 4, Fix Pack 11.  Warp is on its own HPFS partition and the DOS
>> programs are on their own FAT partition.
>>
>> Anyone have any hints they can give me?

>Have you rebooted since the problem started? I know we don't like to
>reboot OS/2, however sometimes it helps! Have you installed anything
>recently, or edited CONFIG.SYS?

>Graham.

I have, actually, rebooted several times in the past few days, for the
first time in a long time.

Another thing, I did change the viewing size of my screen.  That is, I
have an HP monitor that allows, using buttons on the front, one to
increase/decrease the size of the picture presented.  It was after this
that I had problems.

In addition, I find that I cannot shut OS2 down in the normal manner!!  I
mouse click on the shut-down icon, splash screen appears to confirm shut
down desired, press "okay" and everything grinds to a halt.

I think I will try the boot-blob and restart using an archived set.

But if you can think of anything else, please speak out.  I am not a real
computer expert, about low intermediate and any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Regards,

Whit
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From: [e-mail]                                 24-Sep-99 16:40:11
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 21:16:29
Subj: Unable to get to DOS - solved

From: [e-mail]

Hi all;

To all who wrote to help, thanks.  I solved the basic problem by going
back to an archived set from last month.  All seems to work well now.

Regards,

Whit
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From: [e-mail]                        24-Sep-99 14:04:08
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 21:16:29
Subj: Re: Communicator 4.61 Bugs

From: Felix Miata <[e-mail]>

Jerry McBride wrote:

> Felix Miata wrote:

> >To add to or confirm those on
> >http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html

> >loopback device (127.0.0.1) takes forever to time out

> Felix! What's this with the localhost? I run am currently developing a
program
> based on client/server over the localhost and I've been running into time
outs
> from hell lately... How have you linked this to NetScape? Under what
conditions
> does this effect localhost time outs?

> You really got my attention on this one... ;')

I'm a mere observer. Above I quoted from Steve Wendt's bug tracker page,
where I discovered an apparent reason for ill behavior observed. My
hosts file has a large number of popup ad domains in it. When I use 4.61
to visit pages that use them, "done" takes nearly forever to show up. No
such problem with 2.02.
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understanding holds his tongue.                Proverbs 11:12 NKJV

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From: [e-mail]                                   24-Sep-99 23:34:17
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 21:16:29
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 bug reprort

From: [e-mail] (Sherman Galloway)

In message <[e-mail]> - Christian Hennecke
<[e-mail]> writes:
:>
:>Hi!
:>
:>A great job has been done with this new GA. I have found the following
:>bugs:
:>
:>- Win 3.1 plug-ins STILL are not recognized, if Comm 4.61 is installed
:>in a directory that is not in the root, i.e. in g:\Netthings\NETSCAPE.
<snip>
:>Christian Hennecke

I don't believe that you need to install in the root directory - just make
sure that all directories in the path follow the 8.3 naming convention. Win
3.1 programs aren't savy to long filenames.  In your example above <Netthings>
would seem to be the culprit.

Sherman




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From: [e-mail]                           24-Sep-99 23:59:15
  To: All                                               24-Sep-99 21:16:29
Subj: Re: Comm 4.61 and Real Audio !

From: [e-mail] (Svein Sandersen)

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:09:09, Michael Kaply <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Now that I think about it, you might try a workaround.
>
> We put in a little known feature that if you leave the name of the EXE to
> launch for a helper blank, it will pass that type to the WPS.
>
> So if you create a program object for realaudio for windows that handles
> RAM, RM, etc., and then configure realaudio in the browser to pass it to
> the WPS, the WPS should use the existing WinOS2 session to launch the
> file.
>
> Please let me know if this works.

Thanks for the tips Mike, but I didn't quite make this work. I removed
the realplayer name/path in comm,applications  and started realplayer
first. When clicking on an ra url, a window pops up with the url, but
it doesn't seem to know what to do with it from there.
Something to do with the right assosiations I guess.
I hope more people are testing this, and report back to you their
experiences.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to a fix in the next release :)

Svein Sandersen

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