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From: andrie@ibm.net 09-Sep-99 20:23:07
To: klaus@pc9.ish-doebling.sth.ac.at 11-Sep-99 04:50:25
Subj: Re: SCSI and IDE
To: Klaus Kreiner <klaus@pc9.ish-doebling.sth.ac.at>
From: "Hans Andrießen" <andrie@ibm.net>
Klaus Kreiner schrieb:
> I have the following problem:
> I installed OS/2 on a SCSI disk. Now I added an IDE disk.
> When I now boot the installed OS/2 from the SCSI disk with
> the IDE driver (basedev=ibm1s506.add) added the IDE drive
> becomes drive C: and OS/2 can't find the the system files
> which are on the SCSI disk which is now drive D:.
> If I remove the IDE driver, OS/2 boots normal but I cannot access
> the IDE disk
> Is there any way to change the order in which OS/2 assigns the
> drive letters to the disks (C: to SCSI disk and D: to IDE disk)?
Disable the IDE-Port on BIOS.
In CONFIG.SYS set the IDE-Driver (IBM1S506.ADD) b e h i n d
SCSI-Driver (aic7870.add).
Tschau/2
Hans
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From: rdunham@inficad.com 10-Sep-99 22:55:00
To: All 11-Sep-99 04:50:27
Subj: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....
From: "RDunham" <rdunham@inficad.com>
FYI: I just bought an Orb external SCSI unit. Plugged it in and the system
recognized the drive but will not read the disk.
Performed a shutdown and then rebooted with the disk in and upto speed.
Same happened again.
The unit will eject the disk but will not recognize the disk to format. It
thinks that it is a floppy with the format window that does finally open.
The disk is Mac formatted.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Regards: Dick
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From: zayne@omen.com.au 11-Sep-99 09:34:20
To: All 11-Sep-99 10:18:23
Subj: Re: Backup Software for OS/2
From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)
Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com> wrote:
>> Take a close look at PC-Bax from cristie. Best I've so far seen, and
>> I've tested nearly all of em :)
>
>FWIW, I couldn't get it to run on my SCSI based systems.
Heh :) Just goes to show the varied nature of PC hardware I guess. I
had the exact opposite experience. BA/2 for me only ever partially
worked, and I gave up in the end.
PC-Bax has so far been the only trouble free package I've used in all
these years of OS/2dom. Incidently, I've been extensively testing
this software with a view to wider use, and its worked fine on
everything I've tried it on (varied SCSI tape drives, -very- varied
SCSI controllers).
Mind you, when my testing phase began, I started with a very old demo
from LEO (V1.16 I think) and this has severe problems. The latest
versions (V2.21+) are very stable however, and I think Cristie is
putting a lot of effort into the product.
>I am using
>BackAgain2 Professional Edition without problems on several machines.
>Their technical support is excellent, upgrades are free for the
>downloading, and I have yet to have it fail when needed.
Yes I hear this a lot. I have no beef with BA/2 except that
development seems to have slowed (stopped?) and of course, it didnt
work on any of my kit (smile).
For the record, Cristes sales and technical people are generally
answering my queries with 24 hours (had a reply 2 days ago within 1
hour).
I have no experience with PC-Bax and anything other than SCSI tape
drives however. It may (or may not) work with Travan, PP etc etc.
The docos say it will, but I have no interest in these devices and
have not tested the theory.
Best regards,
Craig
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From: zayne@omen.com.au 11-Sep-99 09:36:07
To: All 11-Sep-99 10:18:23
Subj: Re: printing through SCSI
From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)
Stephen Eickhoff <eickhsr@jm-usa.com> wrote:
>> I got this trusty Apple LaserWriter. It works fine on this Apple IIcx I
>> got with it.
>> The IIcx did not come with a network card though ! So I want to run it
>> on a x86 system (OS/2 workstation or server, Linux , Windows95/98, NT
>> workstation or server).
>> The printer is SCSI and likes my SCSI controllers.
Are you sure its a SCSI printer?
I'm certainly no guru when it comes to Macs, but I dont think I've
ever heard of a printer hanging off a SCSI port.
Cheers,
Craig
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From: zayne@omen.com.au 11-Sep-99 09:40:02
To: All 11-Sep-99 10:18:23
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....
From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)
AFAIK the Orb wil lnot work with OS/2
The box and docos state that it will, but castlewood thenselves are
apprently having a problem with the drivers.
Cheers,
Craig
"RDunham" <rdunham@inficad.com> wrote:
>FYI: I just bought an Orb external SCSI unit. Plugged it in and the system
>recognized the drive but will not read the disk.
>
>Performed a shutdown and then rebooted with the disk in and upto speed.
>
>Same happened again.
>
>The unit will eject the disk but will not recognize the disk to format. It
>thinks that it is a floppy with the format window that does finally open.
>The disk is Mac formatted.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Regards: Dick
>
>
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From: Jan-Adolf_Looden@t-online.de 11-Sep-99 13:11:00
To: All 11-Sep-99 20:32:13
Subj: Re: Slow SCSI ZIP drive under Warp 4 only (Warp 3 works fine!)
From: Jan-Adolf Looden <Jan-Adolf_Looden@t-online.de>
Please check if only the last scsi-device on the scsi-cable is
terminated.
I have had in the past i thing the same problem, and then found an
second device that was terminated, an the scsi-Zip drive was than
slow, too.
Jan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ursprüngliche Nachricht <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Am 10.09.99, 20.25.27, schrieb Finlayson & Singlehurst <FandS@ibm.net>
zum Thema Re: Slow SCSI ZIP drive under Warp 4 only (Warp 3 works
fine!):
> Many thanks for your comments Dan.
> That is the truly puzzling thing:
> Both my Warp 3 and Warp 4 partitions are using identical copies of all
> relevant files as far as I can see:
> G:\OS2\BOOT: (my fast Warp 3 partition) H:\OS2\BOOT: (my slow Warp
4
> partition)
> AHA152X .ADD 44,208 09-02-98 11:38a AHA152X .ADD 44,208
> 09-02-98 11:38a
> OS2DASD .DMD 40,808 22-04-98 04:38p OS2DASD .DMD 40,808
> 22-04-98 04:38p
> OS2SCSI .DMD 11,606 07-08-98 12:20p OS2SCSI .DMD 11,606
> 07-08-98 12:20p
> Both config.sys files simply state the following without parameters:
> BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD
> BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
> BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD
> In addition, G:'s config.sys has the following which H: does not,
though
> it surely isn't relevant:
> BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT
> It occurs to me that this may be a PM Shell thingydo, particularly
since
> the rest of the system seems to bog down so much while the ZIP is
being
> accessed. I think a good experiment would be to load the driver
> statements into the config.sys that loads the system up from F2 at the
> blue recovery screen (I think it is \boot\config.x) and test the speed
> without the benefit (?) of the deskop. Ie boot the Warp4 partition to
a
> command line only, then test the speed. (I have to amend the command
> line boot config since the drive was added after installation)
> I will give that a try, though if that doesn't point to the shell,
then
> I am totally at a loss.
> Dan Casey wrote:
> >
> > Check the filesize and date on the Adaptec drivers you are loading in
> > Warp 3 and Warp 4. If different, try using the driver from Warp 3 on
> > the Warp 4 system (AHA152X.ADD).
> >
> > Also, check to see if there are differences in the config.sys file of
> > both systems with regards to the OS2SCSI.DMD and OS2DASD.DMD ... check
> > for parameters and/or switches in Warp 3 that are or are not present
> > in Warp 4.
> >
> > In article <37D86C3F.7F4E887@home.com>,
> > Hugh Campbell <HughCampbell@home.com> wrote:
> > >Can any one suggest why my internal SCSI drive which has always
worked
> > >fine (ie quickly) under Warp Connect now works very slowly on the
> > >identical machine when booted under Warp 4?
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From: dcasey@ibm.net 11-Sep-99 10:06:14
To: All 11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....
From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey)
In article <eqhaunzvasvpnqpbz.fhvk3o0.pminews@news.inficad.com>,
"RDunham" <rdunham@inficad.com> wrote:
>FYI: I just bought an Orb external SCSI unit. Plugged it in and the system
>recognized the drive but will not read the disk.
>
>Performed a shutdown and then rebooted with the disk in and upto speed.
>
>Same happened again.
>
>The unit will eject the disk but will not recognize the disk to format. It
>thinks that it is a floppy with the format window that does finally open.
>The disk is Mac formatted.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
If you run FDISK, can you see that drive? If so, try creating a
partition on it, reboot, and then try and format it.
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From: weismer@erols.com 11-Sep-99 11:53:04
To: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: (1/2) Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.1 (Sept. 7, 1999)
To: John Hong <jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca>
From: Murray Weismer <weismer@erols.com>
I've made all of this painless with the DreckBak for OS/2 backup/restore
utility suite. It uses info-zip as the compression engine.
I've yet to see any os2 file not backed up because of being "locked".
I've backed up from the booted partition, re-formatted and restored many
times without a problem. There are a few files from my DOS based
Wildcat4 BBS that are locked by wildcat to prevent another node from
accessing it while in use, and these are the only files that I've ever
seen that are not processed. (and only if there is a user online during
the backup) These files are reported by the extensive logging built into
DreckBak.
It's available on my site, below, and at many popular OS2 sites (BMT,
Hobbes)
John Hong wrote:
>
> Backup & Defragmentation 3.1
>
> This is just a little primer drawn up in order to help OS/2
> users to use common compression utilities such as PkZip for
> backing up their OS/2 drives.
> Another use for this is also to fight against fragmentation.
> OS/2's HPFS file system does not fragment like the way FAT drives
> do, but it does become susceptible to it when the drive is almost
> full. So, the best remedy is to backup the data, format the
> partition, then unarchive the backup back to the original
> partition and you are back in business.
> Prior to doing this, be sure to create boot disks in order
> to compress/uncompress the backup files. You can use either the
> Create Utility Diskettes option in OS/2's System Folder or (a
> better option) use BootOS/2 in order to make them. BootOS/2 in
> particular is more advantageous since it would only need two 3.5"
> 1.44 MB diskettes over the three needed by OS/2 Warp 3 & Connect
> and the four for OS/2 Warp 4. Plus, one can also use LxLite
> compression with BootOS/2 in order to save that little extra bit
> of disk space necessary. As well, you can probably use it for an
> LS-120 or ZIP disk whereas the Utility Diskettes option would not
> support it. BootOS/2 can be found at the Hobbes OS/2 Archive
> (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu). LxLite can be found at LEO
> (http://www.leo.org).
> EXTRA: It is a good idea to make your backups booting
> through your bootdisks since there maybe locked files that won't
> be compressed. Locked files are files that are currently in use
> by OS/2 and will not allow any kind of manipulation from the user
> to take place.
> EXTRA EXTRA: Before making a backup, it maybe a good idea to
> run CHKDSK from the bootable floppies first. Another thing, make
> sure you run CHKDSK (CHKDSK X: /F:2) twice in a row. I picked up
> this little tidbit from the "OS/2 Warp Unleashed" book by SAMS
> Publishing (fine book, BTW). It is found in Chapter 18, dealing
> with troubleshooting on page 941:
>
> "Note that if you running HPFS, then you should
> periodically run CHKDSK C: /F:2 twice. The first pass
> checks and cleans the primary HPFS structures, and the
> second pass checks and clears the secondary HPFS
> structures."
>
> BTW: When I say it was tested personally under an OS/2
> system, it means that I had tested it under a bootable OS/2
> partition and not just a partition with data on it.
>
> Updates:
>
> * Warp for e-Business
> * Windows 95 - FAT32
>
> To Do List:
>
> * Testing ARJ/2 2.6x once it gets out of beta
>
>
> *NEW*UPDATE* Warp for e-Business *UPDATE*NEW*
>
> Okay, now that you've seent this, I have read of a user
> on Usenet trying to use RAR/2 2.50 in order to backup their
> Warp for e-Business partition. It didn't work, apparently
> the EA's were trashed. Possibly this may have something to
> do with the new LVM and JFS. I don't know since I do not have
> Warp for e-Business, and thus have no way of verifying. So at
> this point in time it is best not to try using any of these
> methods for backing up Warp for e-Business.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Overall
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Compression | Disk Spanning | Requires PM | Recovery | EA's |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> PkZip/2 2.50 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
> Info-Zip 2.22 | No | No | Yes | Yes |
> RAR/2 2.50 | Yes | No | Yes | Yes |
> ARJ/2 2.62 Beta| Yes | No | Yes | No |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Disk Spanning: Ability to support multiple archives. Basically
> once the disk or cartridge is full, it can ask the user to
> insert another disk or cartridge in order for it continue.
> A Yes is good.
> Requires PM: Does the compression program require the PM,
> Presentation Manager. This is OS/2's GUI. A no is a good
> answer since it would be impossible to boot OS/2 up with
> regular floppies with the PM (unless it was a ZIP/LS-120
> booting with A: drive).
> Recovery: Ability to recover/fix a corrupt archive, ie. PkZipFix.
> A yes here is a good answer. If the file is corrupt you can
> at least salvage something from it.
> EA's: Ability to save OS/2's Extended Attributes. A yes here is
> a must for OS/2.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Info-Zip for OS/2 (v2.22)
> http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/
>
> Works very well under OS/2. Use the following switches:
>
> zip -rS$ (destination/name of backup) *
>
> example:
>
> zip -rS$ F:\BACKUP.ZIP *
>
> Stick unzip.exe onto your OS/2 bootdisks, to restore the
> drive simply:
>
> unzip (name of backup)
>
> example:
>
> C: (being where I want it unzipped)
> unzip F:\BACKUP.ZIP
>
> Info-Zip is fine if you are just going to back it up to
> another partition or have a removable media drive large enough to
> fit it. Currently, Info-Zip is not able to handle disk spanning.
> It is a future feature to be added according to their home
> webpage when 3.0 comes out.
>
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's).
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> PkZip for OS/2 (v2.50)
> http://www.pkware.com
>
> Another that works well under OS/2. Perhaps a little better
> than Info-Zip since PkZip does handle disk spanning. Use the
> following switch:
>
> pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=(drive letter)
> (destination/name of backup) *
>
> example:
>
> pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP *
>
> To enable disk spanning, add the /span switch before the
> /volume one.
> Take note, use pkzip.exe, do not use pkzip2.cmd or else it
> will simply fail and just zip up the volume label in a file
> called "all.zip".
>
> Now to uncompress the archive, simply go:
>
> pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C
> (destination/name of backup)
>
> example:
>
> pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C
> F:\BACKUP.ZIP C:
>
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's).
>
> Extra Note: Apparently the geniuses at PkWare designed PkZip
> for OS/2 needing the Presentation Manager. So, using the boot
> disks from the Create Utility Disks function will not work. The
> only way for BootOS/2 to get this to work is with the TYPE=PM
> option. This of course will require a bootable device large
> enough to handle the extra data. So really you are going to need
> a bootable ZIP or LS-120 device in order to get this working.
> With that said, you can use unzip.exe in order to uncompress the
> pkzipped files. But, that has a problem too. Currently UnZip
> 5.40 will not be able to unzip multiple archives (like Zip 2.22).
> This is slated for the next major release (UnZip 6.00).
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> RAR for OS/2 (v2.50)
> http://www.rarsoft.com
>
> Easiest one to use due to its Norton Commander-like
> interface. Go into RAR's configuration (press F9, it is the
> first item on the menu) and make sure the following are checked
> on:
>
> X - Always Solid Archiving
> X - Put Recovery Record
>
> X - Read Only
> X - Hidden
> X - System
> X - Archive
>
> X - Save extended attributes
>
> It could also be a good idea to check on multimedia
> compression in order to get better compression. The rest is
> merely of choice, especially the compression (six methods to
> choose) whether to be for the best compression (slowest) or no
> compression at all in simply storing the files (fastest).
> In order to backup your OS/2 drive, simply hit the "+" key
> and push enter in order to highlight all the directories (or
> select whichever one's you intend to backup). Push F5 in order
> to compress onto a disk/cart and use Autodetect method in order
> to ensure spanning across disks/carts (or you can specify exactly
> what size you want). Very easy.
>
> Take Note: Do not use "UNRAR.EXE" to restore!
> Otherwise you will get a "Desktop can not be found in
> OS2.INI file, attempting to create Temporary Desktop"
> error message, where the Temperary Desktop will also
> fail, leaving you sitting at the PM with one OS/2
> Window session.
>
> In order to restore, place RAR.EXE onto the OS/2 bootable
> diskettes. Start RAR.EXE up, now go to wherever you have the
> file backed up to, enter it, this will allow you view the files
> that are compressed inside the archived file. Once that is done,
> hit the "+" key and press enter in order to highlight all the
> files. Now, press ALT-F4 in order to restore by choosing the
> destination. Simply put in "C:" or wherever your original boot
> partition was. Once all of it extracted, there you go. I think
> we have a winner.
>
> Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's) and a Warp 3
> system (FP40 applied).
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ARJ/2 (v2.62)
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
>
> I confess that I have not yet tested ARJ/2, but I wouldn't
> recommend using it just yet since it is still in a beta stage,
> and does not save EA's. But you could use EAUTIL in order to do
> this for you, but that is a bit of a chore especially since the
> other compression utilities here can do this automatically. So
> what would be the point?
> To enable disk spanning for ARJ/2, use:
>
> arj a -vxxxx
>
> xxxx = denotes the specific size you want it to be
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Note: I only intend to write about currently supported
> compression utilities. In otherwords, LHA and ZOO for
> instance I simply will ignore. Neither one has been
> updated since 1989-1993, and are relatively old and
> obsolete given the others listed here.
>
> Windows 95 - FAT32 (http://www.microsoft.com) - *NEW*
>
> So, you want to just dump OS/2 forever and head off into
> merry merry Windows 95 land? Well, I have not had the
> opportunity to try this using Windows 95 on a VFAT partition,
> but under FAT32, there is simply no way you can backup a
> Windows 95 partition using stuff like PkZip for Windows or
> WinRAR. The problem is that there are certain locked files
> at play. PkZip for Windows did complete, but now you have the
> even bigger problem of trying to restore it from a bootdisk.
> Won't happen, I'm afraid. When I tried this booting off of a
> Windows 95 boot disk, running PkZip 2.50's PkUnZip utility, it
> would not work because it complained of a lack of memory
> (apparently the FAT32 support on the bootdisk takes up a lot
> of memory as I'm always stuck with 542k conventional RAM).
> The last hope was RAR for DOS, but that too also complained of
> a lack of memory. So, what's the point of using a Windows
> compression utility in order to backup the entire Windows 95
> partition if there is absolutely *NO* way of restoring it?
> Now, where exactly am I going with all this? Simple,
> thanks to the great FAT32 driver written by Henk Kelder, one
> can actually follow the exact methods listed here with the
> various compression utilities in order for OS/2 to backup
> Windows 95 through OS/2! Using RAR/2 in the identical manner
> listed earlier will allow you to backup a Windows 95 partition.
> Once backed up, you can boot up with the Windows 95 bootdisk
> and then format the partition, re-boot back into OS/2 and use
> RAR/2 in order to restore the Windows 95 partition back to
> its previous state. Now when you look at the disk with Norton
> Speedisk or booting Windows 95 up with a bootdisk in order to
> use ScanDisk (to see the entire disk information) you will see
> all the clusters neatly arranged in perfect order. No
> fragmentation! The advantage to using this method over using
> programs like Microsoft Defrag or Norton Speedisk is that they
> are not always perfect and can in fact at some times break
> files. My motivation in going to all of this trouble was
> because after using Defrag, I found that one of my .WAV files
> in my Multimedia Themes was broken and could not be accessible.
> Imagine what else could break.
> I have not tried using Info-ZIP or PkZip for OS/2, but
> I figure they would work with the same restrictions applied
> (ie. Info-Zip no disk spanning, PkZip needing the Presentation
> Manager). In order to install Henk's FAT32 driver, I simply
> followed the quicky instructions he had listed in the FAT32.TXT
> file, using PARTFLT.FLT and not the OS2DASD.DMD file he had
> modifyed (on my OS/2 box it trapped as a result). On the
> IFS=FAT32 line I did not have /EAS on (enabling Extended
> Attribute support).
> So, do you *really* want to dump OS/2? Didn't think
> so. A question...could this method work with Linux? There
> is a ext2 driver available for OS/2, that I know of. Perhaps
> that is something else for me to try and play with! ;-)
>
> CONCLUSION
>
> The best compression program for backing up OS/2 with is
> RAR/2, hands down. Not only does it support disk spanning,
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From: weismer@erols.com 11-Sep-99 11:53:04
To: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Sep-99 20:32:14
Subj: (2/2) Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.1 (Sept. 7, 1999)
> EA's, doesn't require the Presentation Manager, and can recover
> from corrupt archives, but it is also easy to use due to the
> text-based Norton Commander-like interface, so no messy command
> line switches to are necessary. A great piece of work, indeed!
> Capable of backing up OS/2 onto another partition or onto
> multiple disks/cartridges making it right now, the emergency
> disaster recovery solution of choice out of the current crop of
> common compression utilities.
> There are a few more coming, the next major release of
> Info-Zip (Zip 3.00 & UnZip 6.00) are being planned to support
> multiple archives. ARJ/2 2.6x, currently in beta, is another
> possible choice to look at since it doesn't need the PM and
> supports disk spanning and recovery from corrupt archives.
>
> BOOTOS/2 Notes:
> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu - latest version is 9.17
>
> There seems to be a problem with Warp Connect & FP39 when
> trying to make a BootOS/2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM partition. It creates
> it fine, but when I boot it up, it freezes at the "OS/2" box that
> appears on the top left-hand corner. Weird. I could not boot
> to a PM partition (BOOTOS2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM) even when I was back
> down in FP26! Same symptom occurs, during bootup it just freezes
> at the "OS/2" box on the top left-hand corner. The samething
> also occurs in FP40, BTW.
> Even making just the floppies seems to cause a small error
> with Warp 3 & Connect. Under FP40, for instance, upon making the
> two disk system (BOOTOS2 2DISK=A) after loading up the first disk
> it would give me a blank screen and stop dead in its tracks,
> going no further. The solution, copy SESMGR.DLL from your
> x:\OS2\DLL onto your BOOTOS2 disk 1 (A:\OS2\DLL). This also
> happened under FP39, BTW. If you do run into any other kind of
> problem with the BOOTOS2 floppies, press ALT-F2 upon booting up
> the diskettes just to see what happens. On this occasion for
> example, upon pressing ALT-F2, the screen said that SESMGR.DLL
> was not installed in any of the LIBPATH directory statements on
> the diskette.
> Warp 4 seems to have absolutely no issues whatsoever, either
> a TYPE=PM or 2DISK=A under any of the FP's I have used (FP1, FP6,
> & FP10).
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From: ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de 11-Sep-99 17:43:27
To: All 11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: New FDISK without limitations ?
From: Andreas Grosche <ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
Thanks to Melvin Klassen for advicing me of an error in my last message:
My previous description was right in saying that:
>>> partitions can be started by the BootManager as long as they are below
>>> the Int((heads*sectors)/2) boundary of "1024 cylinders"[...]
But I have to correct the following section where the unit needs to be added:
> the "1024 cylinder boundary" means that the partition must be contained
> within and must not exceed in size Int((Heads*Sectors)/2) Megabytes
This is not the C value from C/H/S, but the result of Int((Heads*Sectors)/2)
as a value *in Megabytes*, where H and S can be seen in the "OS2:log" column
by adding /V to your BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD line in CONFIG.SYS, but unlike
what I said in my last message, it does not even need to be below 1024,
which is documented in detail by this text that I had already referred to:
> Actually IBM's README.TXT file from IDEDASD.EXE is one of the few places
> to correctly document this issue (in section 3.2, paragraphs 3. and 4.).
The end of the following section has to read "Megabytes" instead of "1024":
> While there are some inherent limitations of certain operation systems
> (e.g. MSDOS requiring a primary partition, for its second-stage boot loader
> is not able to launch from a logical drive in an extended partition),
> BootManager itself can indeed start the boot records of all partitions if
> they are just within the boundary of Int((Heads*Sectors)/2) Megabytes.
~~~~~~~~~
However, if you can't make the OS/2 FDISK create the install partition
nonetheless, here's the way that worked for me (as I already said, it is
entirely at your own risk, I take no responsibility for anything!):
> On the "blank" hard disk, use OS/2 FDISK only to install the BootManager
> and partition the drive, do *not* assign any partition names/menu entries.
> Quit and save ignoring the warnings. Boot e.g. from a DOS disk and start
> DFsee (from http://www.fsys.demon.nl), enter the FDISK menu and now assign
> the partition names for BootManager here using "SETNAME nn Name", exit and
> reboot to the OS/2 install disks. Interrupt at the earliest point using F3,
> prepare the installation partition manually by "FORMAT D: /FS:HPFS /L",
> then EXIT and continue the OS/2 install, confirming the selected partition.
> Of course now these last 8 lines look pretty simple, once that I have found
> out what will do the trick, however it took a lot of work to get there, so
> if it helps, please eMail me at <ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de> to let me know.
Greetinx/2
Andreas Grosche <ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net 11-Sep-99 17:48:17
To: All 11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....
From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 09:40:05, zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo) wrote:
> AFAIK the Orb wil lnot work with OS/2
>
> The box and docos state that it will, but castlewood thenselves are
> apprently having a problem with the drivers.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
FYI, the SCSI, and the ATAPI (EIDE) drives DO work with OS/2. The
other models (PP, USB) will not work without a driver, which is
supposed to be under construction. I don't know the details about the
SCSI, but the ATAPI (EIDE) drive needs the latest IDE driver
(IDEDASD.EXE). Get, and READ, the README.RMS file, that comes with the
new Device Driver Fixpack (this also contains the latest <?> IDE
driver). It has a lot of good information about using removable media
(I don't know how much, if any, of this information applies to the
SCSI drives).
Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net 11-Sep-99 17:48:18
To: All 11-Sep-99 20:32:15
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....
From: doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett)
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 05:55:00, "RDunham" <rdunham@inficad.com> wrote:
> The disk is Mac formatted.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Regards: Dick
>
You may need to use the Windows tools to get it formatted to something
that OS/2 can recognize.
I know of, at least, one case where the disk needs to have a FAT16
Primary partition so that OS/2 FDISK can remove that partition, and
then create a new partition (or multiple partitions, if you wish). The
default PC formatted disks come with an Extended partition, formatted
to FAT16, but OS/2 FDISK complains about an invalid partition table
(as near as I can tell, it IS an invalid partition), and it will not
do anything with the disk. After getting it set to a FAT16 Primary
partition (using the Win tools), OS/2 FDISK could recognize it, and
work with it. A MAC formatted disk would, probably, be "invalid" as
well.
Hope this helps...
******************************
From the PC of Doug Bissett
doug.bissett at ibm.net
The " at " must be changed to "@"
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From: cheljuba@prodigy.net 11-Sep-99 15:51:21
To: All 12-Sep-99 03:14:18
Subj: Re: printing through SCSI
From: cjt&trefoil <cheljuba@prodigy.net>
Mooo wrote:
> <snip> I dont think I've
> ever heard of a printer hanging off a SCSI port.
><snip>
There are some that do. They're not very common, though.
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From: HughCampbell@home.com 11-Sep-99 22:09:17
To: All 12-Sep-99 04:17:17
Subj: Re: Slow SCSI ZIP drive under Warp 4 only (Warp 3 works fine!)
From: Hugh Campbell <HughCampbell@home.com>
Jan-Adolf Looden wrote:
> Please check if only the last scsi-device on the scsi-cable is
> terminated.
> I have had in the past i thing the same problem, and then found an
> second device that was terminated, an the scsi-Zip drive was than
> slow, too.
>
Nope, no such luck. It is the only device on the SCSI bus, and is properly
terminated (which is why it works fine under Warp 3, Win95 and Win 98)
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From: seansmith@racemark.com 11-Sep-99 19:22:01
To: All 12-Sep-99 04:17:18
Subj: Trying to install IDE drives for W95 (ack) in SCSI system, please help.
From: "Sean Smith" <seansmith@racemark.com>
Hello all,
I have been running SCSI for the longest time now and have had my 4 Gig
drive installed, boot manager on the end of the drive, with a primary OS/2
partition and a primary DOS position which I have been using boot manager to
switch between.
I want to add Windoze 95 to my system for my 2 Y.O. daughter's learning
games and other gaming stuff, you know, Wintendo. ;>
Well, I've been having this problem and have been banging my head
against a wall it seems. I installed the drives. I put the 600 Meg drive
as primary on the primary channel and another 6 Gig as a primary on a
secondary channel, with an LS-120 and a CD-ROM as secondaries, (don't
remember which is on which now).
My motherboard is an Asus TXP4 which allows SCSI or IDE boot. I've had
it on SCSI boot but when I partition the drive as a primary partition, it
shows up as a D drive and I can't seem to get it into Boot Manager as a C
drive so Win95 will install properly. OK, so I tried setting up as boot to
IDE, I can partition the drive, and then format it FAT but when I go back
into FDISK under OS/2 it tells me that the partition is corrupted. I have
to disable the SCSI drives in the controller util so that Windows doesn't
get stupid and it installed fine to that partition when booting with a W95
boot disk. It also boots fine if I leave it in IDE mode but doesn't allow
me to boot to OS/2. I then tried re-partitioning it with boot manager added
on to the IDE drive, no go. OS/2 keeps telling me that the partition "may
be" corrupt even if I do the FDISK and format in OS/2.
I'm at a loss here, I've been working on it for over eight hours and
have tried all I can think of. I've updated the IDE drivers on my OS/2
boot/install disks so that I have the most recent version and even booted to
commandline with the boot disks to avoid any possible problems with the
version of OS/2 on the SCSI drives.
The only thing I have not done is completely remove the SCSI drives but
that would make what I'm trying to do a moot point.
The only thing I can think of doing is replace the IDE drives with a
SCSI but I don't have the cash to buy a SCSI drive of the size I want.
I would be willing to trade my Seagate 6 Gig IDE, the Quantum 600 Meg
IDE, my 4 Gig Seagate SCSI, my 1 Gig Quantum SCSI, an OLD full height what I
believe to be 700 Meg SCSI, an Asus SCSI controller, and an Intel Pro 10/100
PCI NIC for a single 9-12 Gig SCSI drive.
If anyone can help or would like to trade, let me know.
Thanks,
Sean
seansmith@racemark.com
wildfire@capital.net
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From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj 12-Sep-99 01:22:08
To: All 12-Sep-99 05:23:09
Subj: printing through SCSI
From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj
Hello zayne@omen.com.au.
11 Sep 99 09:36, zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo) wrote to All:
>>> I got this trusty Apple LaserWriter. It works fine on this Apple
>>> IIcx I got with it. The IIcx did not come with a network card
>>> though ! So I want to run it on a x86 system (OS/2 workstation
or
>>> server, Linux , Windows95/98, NT workstation or server). The
>>> printer is SCSI and likes my SCSI controllers.
z> Are you sure its a SCSI printer?
z> I'm certainly no guru when it comes to Macs, but I dont think
I've
z> ever heard of a printer hanging off a SCSI port.
I have, I even remember setting the scsi id, at least I thought it
was a scsi ID number, on the back of a friends mac printer. This was
circa 1995.
Derek
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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca 12-Sep-99 09:06:28
To: All 12-Sep-99 10:18:25
Subj: Re: Trying to install IDE drives for W95 (ack) in SCSI system, please h
From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca (Baden Kudrenecky)
In <7rel2l$cqk$1@Usenet.Logical.NET>, "Sean Smith" <seansmith@racemark.com>
writes:
>Hello all,
As Windows had corrupted the partition table, I had a very
similar problem fixing WIN 98 on an IDE drive on a previous SCSI
OS/2 and WIN 3.1 system, and I ended up deleting the boot manger
partition from the IDE drive through Windows, booting OS/2 from
floppy, and used PQMagic to shrink the WIN98 partition to leave
50 MB free, and then using PQMagic again from OS/2 to add a Boot
Manager in the free space.
> I have been running SCSI for the longest time now and have had my 4 Gig
>drive installed, boot manager on the end of the drive, with a primary OS/2
>partition and a primary DOS position which I have been using boot manager to
>switch between.
>
> I want to add Windoze 95 to my system for my 2 Y.O. daughter's learning
>games and other gaming stuff, you know, Wintendo. ;>
>
> Well, I've been having this problem and have been banging my head
>against a wall it seems. I installed the drives. I put the 600 Meg drive
>as primary on the primary channel and another 6 Gig as a primary on a
>secondary channel, with an LS-120 and a CD-ROM as secondaries, (don't
>remember which is on which now).
>
> My motherboard is an Asus TXP4 which allows SCSI or IDE boot. I've had
>it on SCSI boot but when I partition the drive as a primary partition, it
>shows up as a D drive and I can't seem to get it into Boot Manager as a C
>drive so Win95 will install properly. OK, so I tried setting up as boot to
>IDE, I can partition the drive, and then format it FAT but when I go back
>into FDISK under OS/2 it tells me that the partition is corrupted. I have
>to disable the SCSI drives in the controller util so that Windows doesn't
>get stupid and it installed fine to that partition when booting with a W95
>boot disk. It also boots fine if I leave it in IDE mode but doesn't allow
>me to boot to OS/2. I then tried re-partitioning it with boot manager added
>on to the IDE drive, no go. OS/2 keeps telling me that the partition "may
>be" corrupt even if I do the FDISK and format in OS/2.
>
> I'm at a loss here, I've been working on it for over eight hours and
>have tried all I can think of. I've updated the IDE drivers on my OS/2
>boot/install disks so that I have the most recent version and even booted to
>commandline with the boot disks to avoid any possible problems with the
>version of OS/2 on the SCSI drives.
>
> The only thing I have not done is completely remove the SCSI drives but
>that would make what I'm trying to do a moot point.
>
> The only thing I can think of doing is replace the IDE drives with a
>SCSI but I don't have the cash to buy a SCSI drive of the size I want.
>
> I would be willing to trade my Seagate 6 Gig IDE, the Quantum 600 Meg
>IDE, my 4 Gig Seagate SCSI, my 1 Gig Quantum SCSI, an OLD full height what I
>believe to be 700 Meg SCSI, an Asus SCSI controller, and an Intel Pro 10/100
>PCI NIC for a single 9-12 Gig SCSI drive.
>
> If anyone can help or would like to trade, let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
> seansmith@racemark.com
> wildfire@capital.net
>
>
>
baden
baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux
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From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk 12-Sep-99 13:52:26
To: All 12-Sep-99 14:38:15
Subj: VDisk drive letter
From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak)
Is there any way to assign a specific drive letter to a VDISK drive?
I've heard of reserving drive letters for CD-ROMs but can't remember where
this
is documented ....
--
John
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From: rsstan@ibm.net 12-Sep-99 12:35:25
To: All 12-Sep-99 16:39:11
Subj: ORB Drive
From: "Bob Stan" <rsstan@ibm.net>
On my ORB drive, if I partition the disks to use the entire disk, formating
with HPFS using /FS:HPFS /L always fails. It formats normally up to about
48%, then the disk thrahes and advances to about 52% where it stays forever.
However, If I partition the disk leaving about 100 Meg free space at the
beginning of the drive and format the rest HPFS they work fine. I have tried
this on four separate disks and they are all the same.
Formatting an entire disk as FAT seems to work. Has anyone else seen this?
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From: seansmith@racemark.com 12-Sep-99 12:58:17
To: All 12-Sep-99 20:01:29
Subj: Re: Trying to install IDE drives for W95 (ack) in SCSI system, please h
From: "Sean Smith" <seansmith@racemark.com>
Baden Kudrenecky <baden@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:Q2KC3.31325$vx.291963@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com...
> In <7rel2l$cqk$1@Usenet.Logical.NET>, "Sean Smith"
<seansmith@racemark.com> writes:
> >Hello all,
> As Windows had corrupted the partition table, I had a very
> similar problem fixing WIN 98 on an IDE drive on a previous SCSI
> OS/2 and WIN 3.1 system, and I ended up deleting the boot manger
> partition from the IDE drive through Windows, booting OS/2 from
> floppy, and used PQMagic to shrink the WIN98 partition to leave
> 50 MB free, and then using PQMagic again from OS/2 to add a Boot
> Manager in the free space.
> baden
It doesn't have to be Windows either. Even if I FDISK and formatted
from OS/2, it would then report that the partition table have been
"corrupted."
I'm in another bind now. I rebooted and was having a problem with DOS
sessions, so brilliant me, I go into selective install and select pretty
much everything to re-install since some of the stuff I hadn't installed
before. Well, I can't access my SCSI drives now. When it rebooted after
the install, it locked up at the IBM locked files processing screen and
wouldn't go any further. Now I can't access the drive, any of the
partitions. I *NEED* to get my data back, at least off of the secondary
partitions. Anyone have any ideas?
Sean
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From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca 12-Sep-99 17:54:03
To: All 12-Sep-99 20:01:29
Subj: Re: VDisk drive letter
From: baden@unixg.ubc.ca (Baden Kudrenecky)
In <37dbb034.0@katana.legend.co.uk>, jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John
Poltorak) writes:
>Is there any way to assign a specific drive letter to a VDISK drive?
>
>I've heard of reserving drive letters for CD-ROMs but can't remember where
this
>is documented ....
February 10, 1999 - Warp 3 FixPak XR_W040
5.14 RESERVE DRIVE LETTERS ADDED
The Reserve Drive Letters feature has been added at Warp FixPak level
XR_W024 for Uni Processor versions of Warp 3. It is not included in the
SMP (Symmetric Multi Processors) version of Warp 3.
A modification has been made to the OS/2 kernel that will allow the user
to specify, through a CONFIG.SYS parameter, specific drive letters that
will not be allocated for local block mode devices during the processing
of CONFIG.SYS.
Currently, all versions of OS/2 assign drive letters sequentially
starting from drive C: for all local devices or disk partitions. Any
network use of drive letters starts after the last drive letter used for
local devices/partitions.
RESERVEDRIVELETTER can be used to force a specific drive letter to be
allocated to a network drive or a CDROM for example.
SYNTAX: RESERVEDRIVELETTER=x, where "x" is letter D thru Z.
Note: Multiple RESERVEDRIVELETTER statements are allowed but only the
last one is used.
During the processing of CONFIG.SYS, OS/2 allocates drive letters for all
BASEDEV= statements. In general, the only BASEDEV= statements that
allocate drive letters are those for the Disk Device Driver, which will
allocate 1 drive letter sequentially for each local disk partition. Three
local disk partitions would allocate C:,D:,E:.
After processing BASEDEV= statements, the system will honor the
RESERVEDRIVELETTER statement(s). If the RESERVEDRIVELETTER statement
conflicts with any drive letter already assigned to a local disk
partition, an error message will be generated and that RESERVEDRIVELETTER
statement will be ignored.
The next processing occurs for DEVICE= statements. DEVICE= statements
for local block mode devices will assign drive letters, starting
sequentially immediately after the highest drive letter specified in a
RESERVEDRIVELETTER statement. Examples of local devices which use drive
letters are CDROM, R/W OPTICAL, TAPE, Virtual Disks (VDISK).
EXAMPLE: User has 2 local disk partitions, wants the E: drive letter to
be used as a network drive, has both a CDROM and a R/W optical drive, and
wants the CDROM drive letter to be K:.
Specify a RESERVEDRIVELETTER=J statement and insure that the DEVICE=
statement for the CDROM preceeds the DEVICE= statement for OPTICAL in
CONFIG.SYS. Note that all drive letters between E and J will be available
for use by programs or device drivers, which allocate drive letters for
baden
baden@unixg.ubc.ca
http://baden.nu/
OS/2, Solaris & Linux
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From: dr.fellXXX@alum.mit.edu 12-Sep-99 14:50:00
To: All 12-Sep-99 20:02:00
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....
From: "DrFell" <dr.fellXXX@alum.mit.edu>
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:55:00 -0700 (MST), RDunham wrote:
>
>The unit will eject the disk but will not recognize the disk to format. It
>thinks that it is a floppy with the format window that does finally open.
>The disk is Mac formatted.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
>Regards: Dick
>
>
When confronted by similar problems with a MAC formatted ZIP
disk, all I needed to do was to fdisk it first (you lose a little
Capacity
but WTF) then format it.
Dr. Fell
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From: mat.nieuwenhoven@icl.nl 10-Sep-99 09:23:24
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:05
Subj: Re: hpfs beats hpfs386
From: Mat Nieuwenhoven <mat.nieuwenhoven@icl.nl>
Trevor,
In order to avoid this cache-size problem, have you tried reading a file
backwards after creating it? I did this about 5 years ago when I wanted
to
test LanMgr on OS/2 1.3 file I/O via the network. This method normally
would defeat caching, unless you have a very smart caching algorithm in
the PC or on the disk.
Of course, I don't think it would really be a real-live test...
Regards, Mat Nieuwenhoven
Trevor Hemsley wrote:
>
> On Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:28:04 GMT, cotroneo@stny.rr.com wrote:
>
> ->Is this test posted out there anywhere?
>
> No ;-)
>
> It's not really complete, so not yet.
>
> Trevor Hemsley, London, UK
> (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com)
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From: mat.nieuwenhoven@icl.nl 10-Sep-99 09:31:13
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:05
Subj: Re: Backup Software for OS/2
From: Mat Nieuwenhoven <mat.nieuwenhoven@icl.nl>
Duane Hay wrote:
>
> Up until now, we have been using ArcSolo, a quick and easy product from
> Cheyenne that has long since been discontinued. I'm wondering what other
> backup software exists for OS/2.
>
> For any and all help I thank you in advance...
>
> Duane Hay
> Network Analyst - TCS (Canada) Ltd.
> dhay@tcscan.com
I've been using CDS's BackAgain/2 professional for more than 1.5 years
now, and I'm very happy with it. Excellent support too.
Regards, Mat Nieuwenhoven
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From: mat.nieuwenhoven@icl.nl 10-Sep-99 09:29:11
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:05
Subj: Re: Best storage for OS/2 (and a few other things)
From: Mat Nieuwenhoven <mat.nieuwenhoven@icl.nl>
>
> For the SCSI controller, the Asus web page indicates the P3B-F has some
> support for Symbios. I've always thought that Adaptec were good but a
> bit pricey. What's the deal with Symbios?
>
I've been using a ASUS wide-SCSI card with symbios chip and drivers and
it works perfectly. The AWARD BIOSes in both a FIC and MSI motherboard
allowed booting from the SCSI without any problems. A lot cheaper than
Adaptec and at least as good. You could also try DawiControl if you can
get it.
Good luck, Mat Nieuwenhoven
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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk 13-Sep-99 12:40:27
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:05
Subj: Re: printing through SCSI
From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>
cjt&trefoil wrote:
> Mooo wrote:
> > <snip> I dont think I've
> > ever heard of a printer hanging off a SCSI port.
> ><snip>
>
> There are some that do. They're not very common, though.
And I thought all Apple Printers where SCSI !
Anyway, the printer is certainly a SCSI-1 device
(it shows up fine on my Adaptec 2940).
So nowadays, it seems only huge network printers are SCSI.
The cost of the spooling software for those printers is also huge :-(
I also looked at SCSI to LPT converters: no luck !
The only products I find are SCSI controllers which fit on the parallel
port
(but they are still SCSI controllers).
So the next option is to find an Apple NuBUS network card 10BaseT BNC.
Wish me luck !
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From: seansmith@racemark.com 13-Sep-99 09:02:10
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: ACK, I screwed up royally and need to retrieve my data, partitions not
From: "Sean Smith" <seansmith@racemark.com>
Please help,
During the weekend I was having some problems with my DOS sessions, so I
went into selective install and added a bunch of stuff, the system then
locked at the IBM Locked files processor. Now when I reboot, OS/2 starts to
boot, then once it gets to my SCSI drivers, it tells me that OS/2 cannot
operate my drives. ACK! I need to at least be able to copy a bunch of data
from the drive. I booted to a commandline with the installation disks and
ran fdisk to see if I can get to the drive and fdisk is telling me that
there is a problem with BOTH of my SCSI drives now, one of which was never
even partitioned.
Ugh. Talk about a bad computer weekend, my daughter poured kool-aid on
my Toshiba Tecra 500 laptop, the keyboard is screwed, won't come clean,
that's gonna be a chunk of change. Luckily it works with external KB and
mouse without the internal KB/accupoint installed...
If anyone can help me with ideas on how to get the data off of my main
drive, I would love to hear about it, even if it entails installing OS/2 on
another drive and maybe even if I have to buy more software.
Thanks,
Sean
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From: vikin17@ibm.net 13-Sep-99 15:04:15
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: Adding disks to a RAID array under OS/2
From: vikin17 <vikin17@ibm.net>
you can use ezraid lite or pro from cyranex;
personally I use "lite" and is very nice
paolo
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From: vikin17@ibm.net 13-Sep-99 15:07:25
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: travelmate
From: vikin17 <vikin17@ibm.net>
I have just bought a travelmate 512T and, of course the HD is not
recognized by the installer (aurora or warp 4) it simply stops at
loading IBM1S506.add at installation disk 1
the fixes for >8Gb do not simply make any differences.
I'm in big troubles
thanks
paolo
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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr 13-Sep-99 14:11:07
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: hpfs beats hpfs386
From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:23:48 +0200, Mat Nieuwenhoven
<mat.nieuwenhoven@icl.nl> wrote:
>Trevor, In order to avoid this cache-size problem, have you tried
>reading a file backwards after creating it? I did this about 5 years
>ago when I wanted to test LanMgr on OS/2 1.3 file I/O via the network.
>This method normally would defeat caching, unless you have a very smart
>caching algorithm in the PC or on the disk. Of course, I don't think it
>would
Or in the OS, like IBM AIX.
>really be a real-live test...
Sure, it's even suggested as performance tuning tip in the IBM AIX
guide, IIRC, since you'd reuse data still in cache.
Cheers,
Stefan
>Regards, Mat Nieuwenhoven
--
=========================================================================
Stefan A. Deutscher | (+33-(0)1) voice fax
Laboratoire des Collisions Atomiques et | LCAM : 6915-7699 6915-7671
Mol\'{e}culaires (LCAM), B\^{a}timent 351 | home : 5624-0992 call first
Universit\'{e} de Paris-Sud | email: sad@utk.edu
91405 Orsay Cedex, France (Europe) | (forwarded to France)
=========================================================================
Do you know what they call a quarter-pounder with cheese in Paris?
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From: pcguido@ibm.net 13-Sep-99 14:18:13
To: All 13-Sep-99 14:52:06
Subj: Re: ACK, I screwed up royally and need to retrieve my data, partitions
From: pcguido@ibm.net
In <7rip5l$7ga$1@Usenet.Logical.NET>, "Sean Smith" <seansmith@racemark.com>
writes:
|Please help,
|
| During the weekend I was having some problems with my DOS sessions, so I
|went into selective install and added a bunch of stuff, the system then
|locked at the IBM Locked files processor. Now when I reboot, OS/2 starts to
|boot, then once it gets to my SCSI drivers, it tells me that OS/2 cannot
|operate my drives. ACK! I need to at least be able to copy a bunch of data
|from the drive. I booted to a commandline with the installation disks and
|ran fdisk to see if I can get to the drive and fdisk is telling me that
|there is a problem with BOTH of my SCSI drives now, one of which was never
|even partitioned.
Boot the install disks, edit your config.sys. Rem out your scsi drivers
and add the ibmint13.i13 device driver, which will access your drives
via BIOS calls.
If you have nuked the partition table(s), you could be in deep doo-doo.
Back in the Dumb-Old-Software days, you could repartition a drive on
the _exact_ same boundaries without destroying any data; but, I don't
know what would happen if you tried this under OS/2...
| Ugh. Talk about a bad computer weekend, my daughter poured kool-aid on
|my Toshiba Tecra 500 laptop, the keyboard is screwed, won't come clean,
|that's gonna be a chunk of change. Luckily it works with external KB and
|mouse without the internal KB/accupoint installed...
|
| If anyone can help me with ideas on how to get the data off of my main
|drive, I would love to hear about it, even if it entails installing OS/2 on
|another drive and maybe even if I have to buy more software.
|
| Thanks,
|
| Sean
Is the word "backups" ringing any bells? :-(
Guidoi
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From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca 13-Sep-99 16:43:19
To: All 13-Sep-99 16:50:02
Subj: Re: Backup Software for OS/2
From: racette@cablevision.qc.ca (Martin Racette)
On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:31:26, Mat
Nieuwenhoven <mat.nieuwenhoven@icl.nl>
wrote:
> Duane Hay wrote:
> >
> > Up until now, we have been using ArcSolo, a quick and easy product from
> > Cheyenne that has long since been discontinued. I'm wondering what other
> > backup software exists for OS/2.
> >
> > For any and all help I thank you in advance...
> >
> > Duane Hay
> > Network Analyst - TCS (Canada) Ltd.
> > dhay@tcscan.com
>
> I've been using CDS's BackAgain/2 professional for more than 1.5 years
> now, and I'm very happy with it. Excellent support too.
>
> Regards, Mat Nieuwenhoven
I must agree with Mat, BA/2 is the best,
and the support is excellent as he saidm
and I have been using it a little longer
than he does, I even had a system crash
and BA/2 saved me so many hours by being
able to work from a floppy boot without
any itch.
I did use some other before BA/2, and
they were not as flexible in the use
they offered or the floppy use was a
real pain, and it was faster to
re-install everything than to use their
Rescue utility
//-------------------------
Good Luck
Bonne Chance
Martin
http://205.237.57.73/
ICQ #48552954
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From: zayne@omen.com.au 13-Sep-99 16:59:15
To: All 13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: Help Orb SCSI on TP385XD.....
From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo)
Oh right. I learn something new every day :)
doug.bissett"at"ibm.net (Doug Bissett) wrote:
>FYI, the SCSI, and the ATAPI (EIDE) drives DO work with OS/2. The
>other models (PP, USB) will not work without a driver, which is
>supposed to be under construction. I don't know the details about the
>SCSI, but the ATAPI (EIDE) drive needs the latest IDE driver
>(IDEDASD.EXE). Get, and READ, the README.RMS file, that comes with the
>new Device Driver Fixpack (this also contains the latest <?> IDE
>driver). It has a lot of good information about using removable media
>(I don't know how much, if any, of this information applies to the
>SCSI drives).
Craig
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From: seansmith@racemark.com 13-Sep-99 13:56:29
To: All 13-Sep-99 16:50:03
Subj: Re: ACK, I screwed up royally and need to retrieve my data, partitions
From: "Sean Smith" <seansmith@racemark.com>
<pcguido@ibm.net> wrote in message news:37dd07b3@news1.prserv.net...
> In <7rip5l$7ga$1@Usenet.Logical.NET>, "Sean Smith"
<seansmith@racemark.com> writes:
> |Please help,
> | During the weekend I was having some problems with my DOS sessions, so I
> |went into selective install and added a bunch of stuff, the system then
> |locked at the IBM Locked files processor. Now when I reboot, OS/2 starts
to
> |boot, then once it gets to my SCSI drivers, it tells me that OS/2 cannot
> |operate my drives. ACK! I need to at least be able to copy a bunch of
data
> |from the drive. I booted to a commandline with the installation disks
and
> |ran fdisk to see if I can get to the drive and fdisk is telling me that
> |there is a problem with BOTH of my SCSI drives now, one of which was
never
> |even partitioned.
> Boot the install disks, edit your config.sys. Rem out your scsi drivers
> and add the ibmint13.i13 device driver, which will access your drives
> via BIOS calls.
I can't access the partition to get to the config.sys...commandline or
not.
> If you have nuked the partition table(s), you could be in deep doo-doo.
> Back in the Dumb-Old-Software days, you could repartition a drive on
> the _exact_ same boundaries without destroying any data; but, I don't
> know what would happen if you tried this under OS/2...
> | Ugh. Talk about a bad computer weekend, my daughter poured kool-aid on
> |my Toshiba Tecra 500 laptop, the keyboard is screwed, won't come clean,
> |that's gonna be a chunk of change. Luckily it works with external KB and
> |mouse without the internal KB/accupoint installed...
> | If anyone can help me with ideas on how to get the data off of my main
> |drive, I would love to hear about it, even if it entails installing OS/2
on
> |another drive and maybe even if I have to buy more software.
> | Thanks,
> | Sean
> Is the word "backups" ringing any bells? :-(
> Guidoi
Backups, yea, my daughter threw out my second main system backup tape
and I haven't had the money to replace it, hence, no system backup...arg.
Sean
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From: r.dunham@onsemi.com 13-Sep-99 12:49:25
To: All 13-Sep-99 19:48:26
Subj: Orb SCSI & TP385XD
From: "Richard M. Dunham" <r.dunham@onsemi.com>
FYI: Just wanted to let everyone know that my new Orb device is working
well under OS/2 with FP11 and the new DDpak updates.
Received a quick note from Lenard who mentioned that in order to get the
unit to work just FDISK the cartridge which I then did and then
reformatted it for HPFS. I can copy, eject, to/from, etc. Working
great!
Thanks Lenard!
Regards: Dick
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From: ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de 13-Sep-99 15:21:22
To: All 14-Sep-99 18:43:05
Subj: Re: Trying to install IDE drives for W95 (ack) in SCSI system, please h
From: Andreas Grosche <ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
Sean Smith <seansmith@racemark.com> wrote:
> I want to add Windoze 95 to my system for my 2 Y.O. daughter's learning
> games and other gaming stuff, you know, Wintendo. ;>
> Well, I've been having this problem and have been banging my head
> against a wall it seems. I installed the drives. [...]
> OK, so I tried setting up as boot to IDE, I can partition the drive,
> and then format it FAT but when I go back into FDISK under OS/2 it tells
> me that the partition is corrupted. [...]
> I'm at a loss here, I've been working on it for over eight hours and
> have tried all I can think of. I've updated the IDE drivers on my OS/2
> boot/install disks so that I have the most recent version and even booted to
> commandline with the boot disks to avoid any possible problems with the
> version of OS/2 on the SCSI drives.
Been there, seen that, too ;-/. And when it happened to me last year, it was
under pretty much the same circumstances, as on my computer the Win98 install
seemed to have screwed up the partition table. Fortunately all was not lost
in my case, and hopefully the same may be true for your system as well:
As you say, once another operating system's FDISK has destroyed the OS/2
FDISK's proprietary pieces of information in the partition table, the
OS/2 FDISK will report it is "possibly corrupted" and will not allow any
further action but "delete partition" until all partitions are gone.
None of the OS/2, DOS or WinDOS disk managers could remedy the situation.
However, I found one tool to read in the partition table and rewrite it in
a way that will make OS/2 FDISK accept it again: this is cfdisk under Linux.
It worked for me and saved me from reinstalling 8 Gigabytes from scratch.
Another very powerful and OS/2-compatible program you might try to reanimate
the BootManager is DFSee, which can be found at http://www.fsys.demon.nl.
I have only recently discovered this tool with its powerful FDISK functions,
which has executables for OS/2, DOS & NT and thus should run almost anywhere.
For both of these utilities, as they are quite different from OS/2 FDISK,
do thoroughly read the documentation and be sure to know exactly what you
are doing, as I cannot know whether it will work for you or screw up the
system even further, so whatever you do is entirely at your own risk, and
your mileage may vary.
Hope it helps (please let me know by eMail), and good luck...
Greetinx/2
Andreas Grosche <ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de>
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From: s_dussa@studsun1.informatik.uni-... 14-Sep-99 08:14:24
To: All 14-Sep-99 18:43:06
Subj: Re: ACK, I screwed up royally and need to retrieve my data, partitions
Message sender: s_dussa@studsun1.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de
From: Tobias Dussa <s_dussa@studsun1.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de>
Sean Smith <seansmith@racemark.com> wrote:
> During the weekend I was having some problems with my DOS sessions, so I
> went into selective install and added a bunch of stuff, the system then
> locked at the IBM Locked files processor. Now when I reboot, OS/2 starts to
> boot, then once it gets to my SCSI drivers, it tells me that OS/2 cannot
> operate my drives. ACK! I need to at least be able to copy a bunch of data
> from the drive. I booted to a commandline with the installation disks and
> ran fdisk to see if I can get to the drive and fdisk is telling me that
> there is a problem with BOTH of my SCSI drives now, one of which was never
> even partitioned.
You may want to have a look into Linux. Linux does access HPFS drives
(only ro, but you just want to read anyway), and seems to be more
fault-tolerant than OS/2 at that.
Besides, you can repartition your hard drive with any boundaries using
Linux fdisk, so you should be able to redo your partition table if you
have enough information about the original partitioning (i.e., cyl
boundaries etc.).
On the down side, if you have never been involved with a Unix-like
system, you will probably need a rather longish time to get started,
unless you maybe have a buddy who knows what he is doing with Linux.
> If anyone can help me with ideas on how to get the data off of my main
> drive, I would love to hear about it, even if it entails installing OS/2 on
> another drive and maybe even if I have to buy more software.
As I said, Linux did the trick with my system (also, no access to the
hard drive via any OS/2 means, the HPFS header was fucked up somehow).
BUT, I have known and worked with Linux for more than half a decade,
so YMMV.
It does work though.
HTH,
Toby.
--
Tobias Dussa *** Tobias.Dussa@ira.uka.de
Measure with a micrometer. Mark with chalk. Cut with an axe.
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From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr 14-Sep-99 13:23:22
To: All 14-Sep-99 20:40:17
Subj: Re: ACK, I screwed up royally and need to retrieve my data, partitions
From: stefand@lcam.u-psud.fr (Stefan A. Deutscher)
On 14 Sep 1999 08:14:49 GMT, Tobias Dussa
<s_dussa@studsun1.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:
>Sean Smith <seansmith@racemark.com> wrote:
>>During the weekend I was having some problems with my DOS sessions, so
>>I went into selective install and added a bunch of stuff, the system
>>then locked at the IBM Locked files processor. Now when I reboot, OS/2
>>starts to boot, then once it gets to my SCSI drivers, it tells me that
>>OS/2 cannot operate my drives. ACK! I need to at least be able to
>>copy a bunch of data from the drive. I booted to a commandline with
>>the installation disks and ran fdisk to see if I can get to the drive
>>and fdisk is telling me that there is a problem with BOTH of my SCSI
>>drives now, one of which was never even partitioned.
>
>You may want to have a look into Linux. Linux does access HPFS drives
>(only ro, but you just want to read anyway), and seems to be more
>fault-tolerant than OS/2 at that.
Hu?! I had that too, at some point, and it turned out that I simply
didn't load the scsi drivers, so the system couldn't operate the disk.
(It happened after I tried stoplight for OS/2, which messed with the
configuration files.)
Just boot from floppy, inspect and correct the config.sys, and you
should be running again. Stefan
--
=========================================================================
Stefan A. Deutscher | (+33-(0)1) voice fax
Laboratoire des Collisions Atomiques et | LCAM : 6915-7699 6915-7671
Mol\'{e}culaires (LCAM), B\^{a}timent 351 | home : 5624-0992 call first
Universit\'{e} de Paris-Sud | email: sad@utk.edu
91405 Orsay Cedex, France (Europe) | (forwarded to France)
=========================================================================
Do you know what they call a quarter-pounder with cheese in Paris?
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From: DWAY@satx.rr.com 14-Sep-99 16:06:07
To: All 14-Sep-99 20:40:18
Subj: Re: ACK, I screwed up royally and need to retrieve my data, partitions
From: DWAY@satx.rr.com (Duncan Way)
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:02:20, "Sean Smith" <seansmith@racemark.com>
wrote:
# Please help,
#
# During the weekend I was having some problems with my DOS sessions, so I
# went into selective install and added a bunch of stuff, the system then
# locked at the IBM Locked files processor. Now when I reboot, OS/2 starts to
# boot, then once it gets to my SCSI drivers, it tells me that OS/2 cannot
# operate my drives. ACK! I need to at least be able to copy a bunch of data
# from the drive. I booted to a commandline with the installation disks and
# ran fdisk to see if I can get to the drive and fdisk is telling me that
# there is a problem with BOTH of my SCSI drives now, one of which was never
# even partitioned.
#
Have you tried booting from floppies and running
fdisk /newmbr for each drive?
Duncan Way
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To: All 15-Sep-99 03:00:27
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From: rsstan@ibm.net 15-Sep-99 18:18:27
To: All 15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: Orb works under OS/2!
From: "Bob Stan" <rsstan@ibm.net>
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:02:20 -0700, Richard M. Dunham wrote:
>Just wanted to let you know that I recently purchased an Orb SCSI
>external drive and it is working well under OS/2 using Fixpak 11 and the
>updated device drivers fixpak.
>
>Just plugged it into my Thinkpad 385XD's PCMCIA SCSI card slot. Powered
>it up and FDISKed the MAC formatted cartridge. I now have another 2.2GB
>of needed storage space.
I have also used the Orb in an EIDE model and was very pleased with it.
Unfortunately, it failed after a month of use. While it is being replaced
under warranty with no hassle, time will tell how reliable the Orb is.
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From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu 15-Sep-99 23:24:24
To: All 15-Sep-99 21:36:07
Subj: Re: printing through SCSI
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa)
Wim Wauters (w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk) wrote:
:
: And I thought all Apple Printers where SCSI !
: Anyway, the printer is certainly a SCSI-1 device
: (it shows up fine on my Adaptec 2940).
: So nowadays, it seems only huge network printers are SCSI.
: The cost of the spooling software for those printers is also huge :-(
The SCSI port on Apple printers is for external hard drive to store more
fonts which won't fit into the RAM printer has (which will also be earsed
between printer resets). There a couple of printer models which you can
connect to computers's SCSI port but none of Apple printer can do it.
Check your printer manual again.
: I also looked at SCSI to LPT converters: no luck !
: The only products I find are SCSI controllers which fit on the parallel
: port (but they are still SCSI controllers).
Certainly you don't have any luck here.
: So the next option is to find an Apple NuBUS network card 10BaseT BNC.
This should work fine for a printer with ethernet port (I forgot which
printer you have, which you wrote in the original post).
--
Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
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From: matthew@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca 16-Sep-99 01:36:09
To: All 16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Orb works under OS/2!
From: "Matthew@psych" <matthew@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca>
Same experience here. The orb external scsi is great w/os/2 (linux too).
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Richard M. Dunham wrote:
> Just wanted to let you know that I recently purchased an Orb SCSI
> external drive and it is working well under OS/2 using Fixpak 11 and the
> updated device drivers fixpak.
>
> Just plugged it into my Thinkpad 385XD's PCMCIA SCSI card slot. Powered
> it up and FDISKed the MAC formatted cartridge. I now have another 2.2GB
> of needed storage space.
>
> You may want to let your customers know that this unit does work under
> OS/2.
>
> Regards: Dick
>
>
>
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From: bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net 15-Sep-99 22:42:06
To: All 16-Sep-99 04:30:10
Subj: Re: Trying to install IDE drives for W95 (ack) in SCSI system
From: Felix Miata <bogus.due2UCE@atlantic.net>
Sean Smith wrote:
> It doesn't have to be Windows either. Even if I FDISK and formatted
> from OS/2, it would then report that the partition table have been
> "corrupted."
> I'm in another bind now. I rebooted and was having a problem with DOS
> sessions, so brilliant me, I go into selective install and select pretty
> much everything to re-install since some of the stuff I hadn't installed
> before. Well, I can't access my SCSI drives now. When it rebooted after
> the install, it locked up at the IBM locked files processing screen and
> wouldn't go any further. Now I can't access the drive, any of the
> partitions. I *NEED* to get my data back, at least off of the secondary
> partitions. Anyone have any ideas?
Doze has probably changed your extended SCSI partition type from 05h to
0Fh. OS/2 doesn't understand type 0Fh. This can be changed back with
Linux FDISK or a partition table editing utility released by Powerquest
last February, available by FTP.
Your original post didn't make clear to me your original drive and
partition configuration. From what I can tell, you are trying to install
two IDE drives into a SCSI system. If you've not yet made headway on
this, post details of your original configuration and your goal(s),
besides that of data recovery and windoze. Also, let us know if you have
Partition Magic, without which doing as you wish may be difficult to
impossible.
Doze doesn't really need the world's fastest drive to perform
adequately. EBay frequently has some pretty good deals on SCSI drives at
reasonable prices, both used and new, large, small, and in between.
--
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wisdom. Proverbs 11:2 NKJV
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From: nospamless@home.com 16-Sep-99 06:33:27
To: All 16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Re: Orb works under OS/2!
From: "∙g╧H" <nospamless@home.com>
In <Pine.SUN.3.91.990915213449.4679B-100000@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca>, on
09/16/99
at 01:36 AM, "Matthew@psych" <matthew@blaise.psych.mcgill.ca> said:
>Same experience here. The orb external scsi is great w/os/2 (linux too).
Can you swap the cart while you are using OS/2? Just wanna make the
removable ability was retained... :)
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From: saliha@bigfoot.com 16-Sep-99 09:28:22
To: All 16-Sep-99 21:19:10
Subj: Hard Drives bigger than 8 GB
From: Salih Albayrak <saliha@bigfoot.com>
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I have a 16 GB Hard drive.
OS/2 W4 utilizes it's 8 GB.
I can't create any more partitions.
How can I use the rest of the drive?
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From: w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk 16-Sep-99 11:36:16
To: All 16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: printing through SCSI
From: Wim Wauters <w.h.m.wauters.1998@cranfield.ac.uk>
Satoru Uzawa wrote:
> The SCSI port on Apple printers is for external hard drive to store more
> fonts which won't fit into the RAM printer has (which will also be earsed
> between printer resets). There a couple of printer models which you can
> connect to computers's SCSI port but none of Apple printer can do it.
> Check your printer manual again.
Don't have the original manual, but both the original invoice and the
backplate of the printer say: "Apple Personal Laserwriter SC".
Using this info on Apple's support pages gives the full spec:
Interface: SCSI
RAM: 1MB
AND the fact that te printer works fine on a SCSI bus removes all doubts.
Problem is that x86 operating systems do not handle printing on a SCSI
device, although printing is covered in the ASPI language [Advanced SCSI
Protocol Interface by Adapatec, commonly used in DOS/Win/OS/2].
> : So the next option is to find an Apple NuBUS network card 10BaseT BNC.
>
> This should work fine for a printer with ethernet port (I forgot which
> printer you have, which you wrote in the original post).
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear:
the idea is to use the Apple IIcx to share the Apple Printer on our network.
Problem being: this lovely old Apple has Nubus busses ( Apple's alternative
to ISA and predecessor to PCI ?), the operating systems is 'System 7.5'.
After that, the challenge will be to make the Apple 'talk' to our
Linux/Unix/NT/OS/2 network. We only need a printer qeueu though, should be
all right (LPDdeamon running on TCP/IP ?).
Fun and Games !
I'll be back when I laid my pawns on a Nubus netcard ;-)
Thankx for all your interest.
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From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 16-Sep-99 09:51:18
To: All 16-Sep-99 21:19:11
Subj: Re: Hard Drives bigger than 8 GB
From: Bob Germer <bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com>
On <37E09C2D.316A997A@bigfoot.com>, on 09/16/99 at 09:28 AM,
Salih Albayrak <saliha@bigfoot.com> said:
> I have a 16 GB Hard drive.
> OS/2 W4 utilizes it's 8 GB.
> I can't create any more partitions.
> How can I use the rest of the drive?
Install the updated ibmide drivers.
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Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 8
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From: r.dunham@onsemi.com 16-Sep-99 08:55:24
To: jaygib@usa.net 17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: Re: Orb works under OS/2!
To: dcasey@ibm.net, Jay Gibberman <jaygib@usa.net>
From: "Richard M. Dunham" <r.dunham@onsemi.com>
Dan, Jay and All: I was reluctant last Friday to purchase the Mac external
SCSI unit when my son and I were at a local electronics shop but he convinced
me. I guess I should listen to him more often!
As for the setup:
I have a Thinkpad 385XD running FP11 with DDKs xr_d001.1dk & xr_d001.2dk
which were installed prior to this purchase. These are available at:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/os2/fixes/DDPak/xr_d001/
My SCSI unit is an Adaptec SlimSCSI 1460C with 50 pin to PCMCIA card cable.
SCSI IDs are switch selectable on the side of the unit. My setting is 4.
The only problem encountered was that the system initially would not
recognize it. I put out a posting and Lenard responded with the same
problem. He fixed this by running FDisk, deleting the partition and then
setup the partition and reformatted. I did this and it worked.
I've tested the unit in the following manner with good results:
1. FDiskPM with multiple partitions i.e.; H, I,...,
2. FDiskPM with one large primary partition,
3. FDiskPM with 2 primary partitions-this was done to test with my NT system
so I had an HPFS and a FAT partition. (BTW, NT will NOT recognize this
drive. No built in support like OS/2. Only drivers presently available from
the manufacturer is support for their EIDE device. A readme file in their
ZIP'd file does mention an ADD driver but it is not in this package),
4. I have copied whole directories, files, made backups using BA2Pro and all
work,
5. Ejected disk and retried, etc.
The drive was recognized and very usable in all tests. No shutdown was
performed during the testing. I'm not sure what other tests I could do at
this time but it appears to be working fine.
The owners manual which does not come with the unit but is available at:
ftp://209.185.119.20/manual/scsi_owners_manual.pdf
In fact I just downloaded it and am looking at it right now for the first
time!
If you have any other questions please let me know.
Regards: Dick
************
Dan Casey wrote:
> In article <37DFB4FB.C4A0D6B7@onsemi.com>, you wrote:
> >Just wanted to let you know that I recently purchased an Orb SCSI
> >external drive and it is working well under OS/2 using Fixpak 11 and the
> >updated device drivers fixpak.
> >
> >Just plugged it into my Thinkpad 385XD's PCMCIA SCSI card slot. Powered
> >it up and FDISKed the MAC formatted cartridge. I now have another 2.2GB
> >of needed storage space.
> >
> >You may want to let your customers know that this unit does work under
> >OS/2.
>
> We've been discussing you success on the Hardware mailing list, and I
> was asked to get this information from you:
>
> Can anyone find out what solution and or problems he had connecting to
> OS/2 (cabling, terminator and Controller?
>
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From: knud_ch@post1.tele.dk 17-Sep-99 07:56:16
To: All 17-Sep-99 03:55:00
Subj: IBM1S506 is spinning my drive down.
From: Knud <knud_ch@post1.tele.dk>
Hi
After updated the IDE driver IBM1S506.ADD the IDE drives are spinning
down at "SHUT DOWN" time, when you not gone turning the power off but
just reset for another reason it takes times to spin them up again.
Does anybody knows to prevent that ?
Knud
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From: maxikins@os2bbs.com 17-Sep-99 10:21:14
To: All 17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: IBM1S506 is spinning my drive down.
From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff)
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:56:33, Knud <knud_ch@post1.tele.dk> wrote:
> Hi
>
> After updated the IDE driver IBM1S506.ADD the IDE drives are spinning
> down at "SHUT DOWN" time, when you not gone turning the power off but
> just reset for another reason it takes times to spin them up again.
> Does anybody knows to prevent that ?
>
basedev=ibm1s506.add /!shutdown
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From: knud_ch@post1.tele.dk 17-Sep-99 12:34:17
To: All 17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: IBM1S506 is spinning my drive down.
From: Knud <knud_ch@post1.tele.dk>
Mark Klebanoff wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:56:33, Knud <knud_ch@post1.tele.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > After updated the IDE driver IBM1S506.ADD the IDE drives are spinning
> > down at "SHUT DOWN" time, when you not gone turning the power off but
> > just reset for another reason it takes times to spin them up again.
> > Does anybody knows to prevent that ?
> >
>
> basedev=ibm1s506.add /!shutdown
Thanks !
It would be nice if the doc for the IBM1S506.ADD could be updated so
that it explain all the features there had been added during time.
Knud
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From: dink@dont.spam.me 17-Sep-99 06:34:11
To: All 17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: Re: IBM1S506 is spinning my drive down.
From: "dinkmeister" <dink@dont.spam.me>
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:56:33 +0200, Knud wrote:
:After updated the IDE driver IBM1S506.ADD the IDE drives are spinning
:down at "SHUT DOWN" time, when you not gone turning the power off but
:just reset for another reason it takes times to spin them up again.
:Does anybody knows to prevent that ?
Add the parameter /!SHUTDOWN to the line in the config.sys..
- dink ( http://dink.org )
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From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk 17-Sep-99 11:05:01
To: All 17-Sep-99 11:01:03
Subj: "Drives" object - annoying behaviour.
From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston)
When I click on the drives icon, it sometimes - but not always - insists on
giving an error message from the FD drive or one of the CD-roms. "Drive not
ready", it says. Well no, it's not, because there isn't a disk (CD) in it.
This is beginning to get annoying: how can I stop it happening?
Ian
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