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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Path: cs.tu-berlin.de!zib-berlin.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!majipoor.cygnus.com!fnf
From: fnf@cygnus.com (Fred Fish)
Subject: Dec-93 Fresh Fish CD-ROM info
Message-ID: <CIv6BM.KAt@cygnus.com>
Organization: Amiga Library Services
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 20:02:09 GMT
Lines: 367
A full version of this announcement was sent to the comp.sys.amiga.announce
moderator a few days ago, but has yet to appear. The full version is
about 125Kb and contains "Contents" files from the CD-ROM, detailing
what is on disks 931-950 and in the "new submissions" part of the CD-ROM.
This is an abbreviated version of the announcement containing only
the general information about the CD-ROM, and the order form for those
folks that wish to FAX in an order.
======================================================================
The December Fresh Fish CD-ROM is done. The tape was sent off to the
CD-ROM pressing plant on 12/24/93, however they are shutdown for 10
days over the holidays, so production is not expected to occur until
about 1/3/94.
There was no November CD-ROM because I had to deal with producing the
replacement October CD-ROM's, and I was out of town for almost 3 weeks
total between Nov 2 and Dec 14. It is expected that the next Fresh
Fish CD-ROM will be available about the middle of February.
Here are the "README-FIRST" and "Contents" files from the December
CD-ROM, followed by an order form.
-Fred
===========================================================================
IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR THIS CD-ROM
(Updated 12-24-93)
This file contains important information that applies to this particular
CD-ROM. For general information about the Amiga Library CD-ROM's, infor-
mation about the contents of this particular CD-ROM, and other important
information, read the various files in the "Information" directory. The
files "Changes" and "Feedback" may be of particular interest. Also be sure
to read the LEGAL-NOTICE, COPYRIGHT, WARRANTY, and SHAREWARE if you have
not done so before.
This is the second CD-ROM in my "Fresh Fish" series, which is intended to
eventually be a monthly production. A combination of factors conspired to
keep this CD-ROM from being produced in mid December, including dealing
with the virus on the first CD-ROM and being out of town for almost 3 weeks
total between early November and mid December. Then the unexpected (on my
part) shutdown of the CD-ROM pressing plant that I normally use, from
12/23/93 to 1/2/94 torpedoed plans to get the CD-ROM out before the end of
December. It's still called the December CD-ROM though, because it was
basically created and ready to go in December, it just couldn't be pressed
until after the holidays.
Progress is being made on a system to make browsing the contents of the
CD-ROM much easier, and for finding specific things on each CD-ROM and
across a series of CD-ROM's. I hoping to have all the pieces in place in
time to include it on the next CD-ROM. Users have also asked for an easy
way to make floppy disk copies from the contents of the floppy disks
included on the CD-ROM, and I am pursuing several different possibilities
for filling this need.
This CD-ROM contains approximately 107Mb of new material, 215Mb of useful
tools including gcc 2.5.7, emacs 18.59, PasTeX, etc, and 278Mb of older
material (such as floppy distributions). All of the source to the supplied
GNU binaries is provided and I have personally built all the supplied
binaries from the supplied source (except GNU emacs) to verify that the
binaries are in fact recreatable from the supplied source code. For more
information about the contents of the CD-ROM see the files in the
"Information" directory.
INSTALLATION
This CD-ROM contains lots of utilities that are ready to run directly off
the CD-ROM. This will be slower than running off a hard drive, but CD-ROM
drives are improving constantly, so if you have one of the newer double,
triple, or quad speed drives, this should not be too painful. You may be
able to save as much as a 200Mb of disk space by running directly off the
CD-ROM.
For this CD-ROM all of the setup necessary to run most things off the
CD-ROM is for you to run the script FreshFish-Dec93:Useful/s/FFCD-Startup
from your S:User-Startup file, like this:
if exists FreshFish-Dec93:Useful/s/FFCD-Startup
echo "Running FreshFish-Dec93:Useful/s/FFCD-Startup..."
execute FreshFish-Dec93:Useful/s/FFCD-Startup
endif
This should be added to your S:User-Startup before the LoadWB command, so
that the WorkBench will know about the directories added to the command
search path. Once you have added this to your S:User-Startup, you will
need to reboot for it to take effect.
If you want a more customized environment, you can look at what the
FFCD-Startup script is doing and use appropriate bits and pieces in your
own S:User-Startup or S:FFCD-Startup. Future disks may have a more
sophisticated method of customizing the environment to allow things to run
off the CD-ROM.
*** IMPORTANT ***
Some of the GNU utilities, gcc in particular, require a
very large stack. You need to arrange that the CLI/Shell
or whatever you run these programs from has a large stack
set. In a CLI you can set this with a command of the
form "stack 100000" (100000 is what I use). You can also
put this command in your S:Shell-Startup file to get large
stacks for all CLI/Shell startups, without having to
remember to manually set the stack each time. Really huge
compiles, like recompiling the compiler itself, may require
even more stack space (like 300Kb or more).
GNU UTILITIES
* This CD-ROM contains ports of various GNU utilities that are in
various stages of stability. See Useful/dist/gnu/README for
further information.
* I am very picky about adhering completely to the conditions of the
GNU Public License, so all of the GNU code that goes on one of the
CD-ROM's has to be build and tested the first time it is included
and each time it is updated. Expect this portion of the CD-ROM to
continually grow with each CD-ROM release, as more ports of GNU
code are added.
SAS C INCOMPATIBILITY
* The assign of lib: used by this CD-ROM conflicts with Lattice/SAS
C, which wants to use the same assign. I don't have a recommended
way of dealing with this conflict yet. I have some ideas though,
and hopefully this won't be an issue for future CD-ROMs.
* The simplest solution for now may be to patch your SAS C
executables to look for SLB: instead of LIB:. However this
will cause problems with Makefiles and other such files that
reference LIB:.
USER FEEDBACK NEEDED
* I am always interested in hearing about things that might make
this CD-ROM more useful for users. It is particularly important
at this stage that I get feedback from users about problems that
need fixing, or suggestions on how to make the CD-ROM more useful.
* You can FAX your comments to me at (602) 917-0917, however
please understand that I may not be able to respond to, or even
acknowledge receipt of, every problem report and suggestion that
arrives.
CHANGES SINCE LAST FRESH FISH CD-ROM
* See the file Information/Changes for a summary of changes since
the last Fresh Fish CD-ROM.
-Fred Fish ><>
===========================================================================
CONTENTS OF
December 1993 Fresh Fish CDROM
This file contains some overview information about the contents of the
CD-ROM, followed by a concatenation of a bunch of individual Contents files
on the CD-ROM. Note that not all the material on the CD-ROM appears in a
Contents file somewhere, so the list of programs found in this file is only
a subset of what is actually on the CD-ROM. As an example, none of the
180Mb or so of material under useful/dist appears here. I'm still working
on a better method for finding specific programs or types of programs.
STRUCTURE OF THE CD-ROM
-----------------------
The CD-ROM is divided into roughly three sections: (1) New material,
which includes the material from the new unreleased floppy disks as
well as material which does not appear in the floppy distribution, (2)
useful utilities that can be used directly off the CD-ROM if desired,
thus freeing up the corresponding amount of hard disk space, and (3)
older material from previous released floppy disks or CD-ROM's.
The portion of the disk dedicated to new material that I've not
previously published on a CD-ROM or floppy disk is 107Mb, broken down
as follows:
11Mb Archived (BBS ready) contents of disks 931-950
17Mb Unarchived (ready-to-run) contents of disks 931-950
22Mb Archived "new material" not in floppy distribution
57Mb Unarchived "new material" not in floppy distribution
The portion of the disk dedicated to a bunch of useful tools like GNU
utilities, TeX with lots of fonts, and other interesting software that will
be updated for each Fresh Fish CD-ROM, is 215Mb, broken down as follows:
2Mb Content lists of floppy disks 1-950.
4Mb Reviews of Amiga software and hardware
4Mb Full BSD source for supplied BSD executables.
4Mb CBM header files, libraries, and developer tools.
22Mb Misc useful tools, libraries, etc.
25Mb Binary executables, libraries, and other "runtime" things.
33Mb PasTeX source, fonts, binaries, etc.
121Mb Full GNU source for supplied GNU executables.
The portion of the disk dedicated to old material is 278Mb, broken
down as follows:
12Mb Archived (BBS ready) contents of material from Oct
Fresh Fish CD-ROM that was not in floppy distribution.
28Mb Unarchived contents of material from Oct Fresh Fish CD-ROM
that was not included in the floppy distribution.
130Mb Archived (BBS ready) contents of floppy disks 650-930.
108Mb Unarchived contents of floppy disks 800-930.
GNU CODE
--------
Here are the current GNU distributions which are included in both source
and binary form. In most cases, they are the very latest distributions
ftp'd directly from the FSF machines and compiled with the version of gcc
included on this CD-ROM. I have personally compiled all of the GNU
binaries supplied on this CD-ROM, to verify that the compiler is solid and
that the binaries are in fact recreatable from the supplied source code.
bash diffutils gas groff make tar
bc doschk gawk gzip patch termcap
binutils emacs gcc indent perl texinfo
bison fileutils gdbm ispell rcs textutils
cpio find gmp libg++ sed uuencode
dc flex grep m4 shellutils
Here is an "ls -C" of the binary directory which can be added to your path
to make these utilities, as well as utilities from the Useful/dist/other
directories, usable directly off the CD-ROM, once it is mounted:
AD2HT c++ gawk lha sed
ARTM cat gcc lkbib sh
AZap chgrp gcc-2.3.3 ln size
AmigaGuide chksum gcc-2.5.7 locate sleep
DiskSalv chmod gccv logname sort
ExpungeXRef chown gccv-2.3.3 look split
IView ci gccv-2.5.7 ls strip
Installer cksum gdir m4 sum
LHArc cmp genclass make tac
LHWarp co geqn makeinfo tail
Less comm gindxbib merge tapemon
LoadXRef cp ginfo mg tar
MKProto cpio ginstall mkdir tee
MuchMore csplit glookbib mkfifo test
MuchMore.info cut gneqn mknod testdbm
NewZAP date gnroff mv testgdbm
PerfMeter dc gperf nice testndbm
RSys dd gpic nl texi2dvi
SD df grefer nm texindex
SnoopDos diff grep nroff tfmtodit
SuperDuper diff3 grodvi od touch
SysInfo dirname groff paste tr
Viewtek doschk grog patch true
WDisplay du grops pathchk unexpand
XIcon echo grotty pfbtops uniq
Xoper egrep gsoelim pr unprotoize
[ emacs gtbl printenv uudecode
addftinfo env gtroff printf uuencode
afmtodit etags gunzip protoize vdir
ar expand gzip psbb vt
as expr head ranlib wc
awk false id rcs who
basename fgrep ident rcsdiff whoami
bc find indent rcsmerge xargs
bison flex ispell rlog yes
brik flushlibs join rm zcat
bsd-make fold ksh rmdir zoo
bsplit g++ ld sdiff
Contents of Floppy Disks 650-930
--------------------------------
Because there is only one previous Fresh Fish CD-ROM from which to rep-
licate material from previous months, I've elected to use the contents of
floppy disks 650-930 to fill that portion of the CD-ROM. Some of these
are only available in the archived (BBS ready) form.
============================================================================
Name and ____________________________________________________________
Address ____________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________
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============================================================================
QUANTITY DESCRIPTION UNIT COST TOTAL
________ Previous CDROM(s): _______________________ $29.95 _______
(quantity limited)
________ Fresh Fish CDROM(s); ______ each release $19.95 _______
Start with: [ ] Dec-93
[ ] other:_______________
________ Quarterly "On-line Edition" CDROM(s) $19.95 _______
(available starting approx Feb/Mar 1994)
________ 1000 disk "On-line Edition" CDROM $19.95 _______
(available approximately Feb/Mar 1994)
________ Hypermedia Version 1.7 CDROM $19.95 _______
(floppy disks 1-900, quantity limited)
SUB-TOTAL => _________
Add $3 per CDROM for shipping and handling if within USA,
Canada, or Mexico. => +_______
Add $5 per CDROM for other destinations (sent airmail).
TOTAL => _________
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(Must be payable in U.S. dollars)
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Amount to Charge: $__________
I understand that the total amount shown above will be charged to
the above described account upon receipt of order, and that in the
event that not all of the requested CDROMs are received in a timely
manner, any unused portion will be fully refundable upon demand.
Sign Here: __________________________________________
============================================================================
Send or FAX your completed order to: Amiga Library Services
610 N. Alma School Road, Suite 18
FAX: (602) 917-0917 Chandler, AZ 85224-3687
(no voice phone orders, FAX only) USA
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