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Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 222. 12-28-89 16:34.17 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Gerry Moss
To: Warren Pollock
Subject: DIALOGUE 128
ALSO SEE: 217, 227.
Glad I was of some assistance, Warren. Tell Gary Farmaner that!
Regards, Gerry
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 223. 12-28-89 19:13.46 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Doug Purdy
To: Chris Schmidt
Subject: FORMAT
Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Believe the NFORMAT.COM or
FORMAT.LBR files here are the ones that format the 1581. But I think they
need the right CPM+.SYS file.
Doug
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 225. 12-30-89 8:40.24 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Doug Purdy
Subject: DIALER.TST
ALSO SEE: 220, 230.
Well, I have been changing and adding small bits and pieces since then but
the problem I can't find is somewhere in the part where I put the data
into the files. I don't think I put it into the files properly or
something because my search files routines never find anything. Also I
doubt severely that the part that tells the modem to dial works either!
That's the one thing I don't like about programming... All of the bugs you
may have to eliminate!
Ohwell TTYL for now!
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 227. 12-31-89 14:39.00 (RECV'D)
From: Warren Pollock
To: Gerry Moss
Subject: DIALOGUE
ALSO SEE: 222.
You gave me the starting point I need, when I get a chance I want to
modify your logon script, for instance I want the buffer to kick in just
before the messages are read etc. Should be fun or frustrating!
Just learned how to automatically dump the buffer to disk while on line,
the flow control has to be on, really couldn't figure that out from the
manual.
-
have a happy new year *!*!
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 228. 12-31-89 21:59.37 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Ray Whidden
Subject: DISKS ...
ALSO SEE: 226, 231.
I got it from here, but there is something wrong with it, a checksum error
in un-lbring it, I will try again and see if was just a bad download or if
the file on here is corrupted.
It is under the name QUATRIS?.lbr in the CP/M section.
How many disks do you have for me? I will bring some blanks to replace
them for you.
See you there!! (hopefully, everything seems alright so far!)
TTYL!!
And Thanks!
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 229. 1-01-90 23:28.55 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Gerry Moss
To: Eugene Gibas
Subject: AUTOEXEC SCRIPT
ALSO SEE: 224, 235.
Eugene, here is a script I wrote to automate uploading files to CRS. The
prompts for other bbs's may be different, but the idea should be the same.
In buffer #8, I store the filenames, one to a line.
l
C=1
C=b
#9
t ""
w "=no change? " ; Language prompt
t ""
w "=no? " ; graphics prompt
t ""
w "first name? "
t "Gerry"
w "last name? "
t "Moss"
w " echo)? "
t "XXXXXXXX"
w "(Enter)=yes? " ; main message scan prompt
t "no"
w "Main Board Command? " ; main prompt
t "j 3" ; join conference #3 (CP/M)
w "(Enter)=yes? " ; CP/M message scan prompt
t "no"
w "Conference Command? "
t "u" ; upload command
C=b
C=8 ; set buffer to #8 with filenames
A=r ; ALT-R to reset line pointer
$ = B
2 w "(Enter)=none? "
t $
w "?"
$ = B
t $
w "Aborts Transfer"
$ = B
C=u $
w "Conference Command? "
$ = B
if $ = "end" : g 3
t "u"
g 2
3 t "g"
e
Let me know what you think of this; I haven't had a chance to try it out
here yet; that may be my next project.
Regards, Gerry
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 230. 1-04-90 22:34.26 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Doug Purdy
To: Chris Schmidt
Subject: DIALER.TST
ALSO SEE: 225, 233.
If I recall correctly, professional programmers expect to spend a lot of
time debugging. We seem to hope that we won't need it and then realize
miracles don't happen often. My experience is debugging is much longer
than programming but that's probably because I like to sit down at the
screen and jump right in. Probably makes the job longer to finish and it
sure makes it harder to make any changes to the software later!
Doug
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 232. 1-05-90 14:18.52 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Ray Whidden
To: Chris Schmidt
Subject: Z8E DEBUGGER
Hi Chris,
You were asking about another debugger, besides WADE: I have the Z8E
debugger that looks pretty good and more compact than WADE. I'll put a
copy of the library on the disk for you. Regards, Ray
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 233. 1-06-89 17:53.48 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Doug Purdy
Subject: DIALER.TST
ALSO SEE: 230.
You sure hit the head of the nail dead on there.
I had planned out my program quite a bit before I went to write it, and
logically it should have worked, but you now the BIG difference between
logically and physically!!
Anyway, you can get rid of that program now unless you can find a use for
it. As soon as I get mine working I will send it up.
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 234. 1-06-89 17:56.53 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Ray Whidden
Subject: DISKS ....
ALSO SEE: 231, 236.
That's ok, it can happen to any of us!! (espescially when we get old eh??
(just kidding!!) :):):);)
Anyway, I will give you a call (probably have already!!) and we can
arrange something.
Thanks again in advance for all of your help!!
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 235. 1-07-89 8:25.41 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Eugene Gibas
To: Gerry Moss
Subject: AUTOEXEC SCRIPT
ALSO SEE: 229.
Oh, wow! You really lost me near the end of that SCRIPT. I've buffered and
saved it so I'll be giving it a serious look after I log off.
Thanks very much. I've got a SCRIPT for reading through a list of Punter
CONFERENCES. It's a bit crude yet, but I'll send it up for your 'perusal'
if you're interested.
Have a HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR, EH!
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 237. 1-13-90 19:59.05 (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Ray Whidden
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 238, 247.
Hello Ray, Thanks for that last bit of info on the HIST comand, i wil play
around with it some more soon.
I was trying to reply to your last message, but the delete key doesn't
work in Qterm (currently in use) and I cannont (can't) correct anthing.
Any Ideas there forme?
Also, how do I access the other protocols in Qterm, I found out Xmodem,
but are there any oters, and where are they?
thanks
Ps, could you leave me your number again, I seem to have misplaced it
before being able to enter it into my phone book. Thanks.
(PS again, the dilaling program merged OK, but there seems to be an error
with the way I set up the data files, hope to find it sometime tonight.)
TTYL!
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 238. 1-14-90 13:50.06 (RECV'D)
From: Joe Janakovic
To: Chris Schmidt
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 237, 240.
Howdy;
Sorry to bud in but I think you can use CTRL-H within QTerm to act as a
delete key. Actually, I think this only backspaced but it should do the
job more or less.
Hope this helps...
Joe
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 239. 1-14-90 13:54.28
From: Joe Janakovic
To: All
Subject: ARC ALGORITHMS
Hi;
Does anyone know where I can get either the source code or a relocatable
object module (with instructions on how to use it) for ARC250.4's
crunching algorithms (#3 and 5).
What I'm in the middle of doing is writing a ARC/CS-DOS imitation for the
128 (in 128 mode!) using Chris Smeets' USQ routines (which I got from CRS
- I believe). The problem is, his USQ routines only includes modules for
de-arcing STORED, PACKED, SQUEEZED, & SQUASHED files. The great majority
of the files compressed with ARC seem to be crunched and he doesn't
include the crunch algorithm in the USQ.ARC package.
So, any help in locating the above in just about any form would greatly be
appreciated. (I'd even settle for a copy in FORTRAN or COBOL (yech!)).
Thanks....
Joe
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 240. 1-14-90 16:01.26 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Joe Janakovic
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 238, 242.
Great!! Found it!! Thanks for the help Joe.
How about enabling a protocol other than Xmodem?
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 241. 1-14-90 20:14.50
From: Dave Meyers
To: Gary Bradley
Subject: EXPANDER BOARD
Hi Gary,
How's it going?
Just a quick question for you. Do you remember where you bought your
expansion board or do you know where to find one? Switching the 2
cartridges is getting to be a real pain...
I have seen the boards advertised in the magazines but I would like to
get one here if possible.
Talk at you later.......
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 242. 1-14-90 20:52.28 (RECV'D)
From: Joe Janakovic
To: Chris Schmidt
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 240, 243.
Chris;
Not sure I know exactly what you mean by enabling a protocol other than
Xmodem. Qterm WILL check to see what KIND of Xmodem the sender is sending
in (ie. 128 byte blocks, Xmodem-1K, CRC etc..) and it will adjust itself
accordingly. As for other protocols, I think it only supports Kermit -- a
protocol that I would desperately like to see on more 128 terminals
(notably DesTerm!!) since it's the only one you can use to communicate
with mainframes.
Anyhow, if memory serves, you select a Kermit download by something like:
CTLR-O
R
KA
A:NAME.TYP
Or something like the above... (haven't use Qterm in a few months!!).
The CTRL-O, puts Qterm into 'command' mode. The R designates a recieve
for download. The KA desginates a kermit Xfer with a ring of the bell
when the xfer is complete -- as opposed to just silently going to terminal
mode after the download in which case you wouldn't know the xfer was finish
unless you were staring right at the screen during the xfer. Not
something I enjoy doing!! Alternately you could try XA in the above
sequence to perform a Xmodem xfer. Finally, the last parameter is the
filename you wish to call it on your system.
Hope this crash course in Qterm helps!! Like I said before, haven't use
Qterm in awhile so no positive about all the parameters...
Joe
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 243. 1-19-90 16:46.54 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Joe Janakovic
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 242, 245.
Ok, thanks, I will give it a try, I was hoping that QTERM would have
Ymodem (1K XMODEM) in it, but anyway, not matter.
Once again, thanks for the help.
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 244. 1-19-90 16:50.46 (NO KILL)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: All
Subject: MODEM IN 128 MODE
I have me a problem...
I wrote a routine that dials a nunber through the modem in 64 mode, I went
to use it in a 128 mde program, but it doesn't work.
Are there any quirks about 128 BASIC and the modem that I should be aware
of??
Thanks.
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 245. 1-19-90 18:11.52 (RECV'D)
From: Joe Janakovic
To: Chris Schmidt
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 243, 246.
Chris;
I believe that QTERM *DOES* have the Ymodem that you're talking about.
XMODEM 1K is supported -- many people WRONGLY call this YModem (though, I
don't know why!). The REAL YModem is the batch transfer protocol which
allows you to select a group of files you wish to download and then do
them ALL with one download command. XModem-1K only allows you to download
1 file at a time although, the block size is 1K as is YModem's.
Just had to clear that up!
Joe.
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 246. 1-19-90 20:59.45 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Joe Janakovic
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 245.
Ok, thanks again for the help.
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 248. 1-20-90 24:55.25 (NO KILL)
From: Ray Whidden
To: All
Subject: QTERM/'YMODEM'
ALSO SEE: 270.
Hi All Qterm users,
The distinction with the advanced transfer protocols, I think, is that
you tell the remote BBS, ie Learning Experience or CRS, which one and your
terminal program can sort out between the different Xmodem variants, which
it is. Of course, Kermit is a whole difference kettle and Joe is correct
in the procedure to use it.
I routinely respond ^O R XYA A:<carriage return> after starting a D Y
and selecting the filenames on CRS. The A: can be replaced with any other
valid drive assignment. Then I can watch TV, etc until the transfer is
finished, with the remote BBS telling my system what the filenames are.
Sounds like this would be a good discussion to have at a TPUG meeting.
Regards, Ray
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 249. 1-20-90 18:30.46 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Chris Schmidt
To: Ray Whidden
Subject: QTERM, ETC. ....
ALSO SEE: 247, 250, 273.
Ok, thanks for that info, I will give it a go once I am out offf line leavi
no chance of screwing anything on the BBS up.
QTERM is quite an interesting program, can you give me an idea at how the
script files are supposed to be configured? I tried the one you had for
Learning Experience, but for some reason it froze the system.
Oh neato!! I just chaged te keyfig as you said so that the DEL key would
work!!
Anyway, I have fixed the file data error, but now I can't get the routine
that gets the modem to dial the number to work. I can't even get the
modem to acknowledge that it is there. I think maybe I will bring it and
ak at the next meeting. But as soon as I get it working, for sure I will
uload it here and let TPUG use it on one oftheir disks if they want. The
way I set it up is that the limit to how many names you can have is only
limted to the amount of space on your disk.
Well thanks again, I will give you a shout if I need any more help.
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 250. 1-20-90 21:14.54 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: John Milligan
To: Chris Schmidt
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 249, 252, 274.
Hi Chris,
One thing that you might notice, someday, AFTER using QTerm, is that
it has a great tendency to mess things up with your system. Try doing a
directory with SD, or whatever your favourite DIR program - see how
S-L-O-W it is..... Thanks very much, QTerm! Not to worry howver, it is not
that big a deal, you just have to ReSet a couple of things to make it
right. I have written a short program called QFIX that looks after these
little things. I will upload it next time I log on in CP/M mode. Bug me
about it if I forget!
John
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 252. 1-21-90 12:14.15 (RECV'D)
From: Joe Janakovic
To: John Milligan
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 250, 255.
John;
There's an easy way around the problem you mentioned about QTERM slowing
the entire system down when you exit to CP/M. The problem lies in the
fact that QTERM leaves the RS-232 port at 1200 baud (which is the speed
you're using, right?). When the system baud-rate is 1200 baud, it uses up
more time checking for in-coming characters than it does doing other
things (like displaying the dir using SD or whatever).
The solution: before exiting QTERM, change the baud rate to 300 baud. I
think you do this by going: CTRL-O, B, 300<return> or something like that.
This will restore the system to the way it was before you ran QTERM.
Hope this helps...
Joe
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 253. 1-21-90 16:37.05 (NO KILL)
From: Brian Repic
To: All
Subject: 1581 DD
ALSO SEE: 260, 281.
Hi all! I couldn't find a Buy and Sell section on this BBS...
I'm looking to buy a 1581 disk drive. If anyone has one they don't want or
know where I could get one, please tell me.
BTW, I'm selling a 1571 disk drive. Anyone interested, leave me a private
message. Thanks.
BTW, is it true that a 1581 is exactly the same as an amiga 3.5 inch drive
except for the controller? Could I get an amiga drive and get it to work
on my commodore?
......Brian.......
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 254. 1-21-90 22:43.25 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Gerry Moss
To: Ralph Schwarz
Subject: D128 SCRIPTS
ALSO SEE: 251, 256, 265.
Ralph, I have no problem with that idea; I'll put together some files over
the next few days and upload them here. I have autologon scripts for all
bbs's I call regularly, as well as upload/download scripts for certain
bbs's where I need that capability. If these are of interest, great. I'll
have to add some comments and remove my passwords, etc. I'll post a msg
once I upload them.
Regards, Gerry
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 255. 1-22-90 12:13.01 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: John Milligan
To: Joe Janakovic
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 252, 259.
Hi Joe,
Basically I did the same kind of thing, but put it in a command file
so that all I have to do is type QFIX - and its done.
I don't remember which kind of file I did it with, but it may only
run under Z3Plus - so it may not be of value to someone who is not in a
ZSystem, but as you pointed out, it is a fairly simple fix.
John
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 256. 1-22-90 12:17.21 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: John Milligan
To: Gerry Moss
Subject: D128 SCRIPTS
ALSO SEE: 254, 291.
HI Gerry,
I had a logon script for this board - but it wouldn't work properly
- it would give me the message 'Exec complete' or something like that
before it even typed my name. I tried using the script that you had (for
someone else) and ran into the same problem. I have had no problems with
my scripts for the various Punter boards or CRS - just this one!!!
Have you had any trouble, at any time, with this particular board?
John
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 257. 1-22-90 19:12.43 (NO KILL)
From: Brian Repic
To: All
Subject: 1581/1571
Hi all!
I am looking for a 1581 diskdrive...any sellers?
I am selling my 1571...any buyers?
Leave a private message if interested...
thanks
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 258. 1-22-90 19:14.45 (NO KILL)
From: Brian Repic
To: All
Subject: 'PACKED' FILES
ALSO SEE: 266.
Hi everyone. Where can I get the file unpacking utility that unpacks files
with the .ARK (not ARC). What's the difference between ARC and ARK?
Can someone please tell me just how many file unpacking utilities there
are for the C-64 and C-128? What are they and where can I find them?
Any help will be greatly appreciated...
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 259. 1-22-90 19:34.23 (RECV'D)
From: Joe Janakovic
To: John Milligan
Subject: QTERM
ALSO SEE: 255, 267.
John;
Do you mean you have a file called QFIX.COM that you run to fix the baud
rate?
I guess another way of doing it would be to put the command to fix the
baud rate into a .SUB file (accessing the CONF utility, I guess) and then
simply type SUBMIT QFIX (assuming the file is QFIX.SUB). But, I guess
for me, the simplest thing to do is just remember those few keypresses
before exiting QTerm. (If I forget to do it before exiting, I can always
just run QTerm again, switch the baud rate and exit again!).
I guess theis best thing would be to have the command interpreter execute t
the .SUB file without relying on the Submit utility. Kind of like MS-DOS
does with it's .BAT files.
And yes, I don't have a Z system. Just plain CP/M...
Joe
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 260. 1-23-90 8:25.27 (RECV'D)
From: Michael Martin
To: Brian Repic
Subject: 1571
ALSO SEE: 253.
Hello Brian. I might be interested in the 1571 drive. Can you tell me how
much you want for it?
Michael
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 264. 1-23-90 16:20.38
From: Tony Valente
To: All
Subject: SPREAD SHEET
Dose anyone have a PD program of a spreadsheet for the C64/C128. If you
do could you UP load it for me.
thanks!!
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 265. 1-23-90 17:06.34 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Ralph Schwarz
To: Gerry Moss
Subject: D128 SCRIPTS
ALSO SEE: 254, 292.
Hi Gerry!
That would be fantastic! A broad variety of BBSes and a variety of
functions is just what I am after. I think it would be outstanding if you
could comment them and make them easily flexible for each user's needs.
That would definitely be appreciated by other users. I know that there is
an unlimited number of ideas that one could theoretically make into script
form for Dialogue 128, but there aren't that many users (aside from
yourself) that are willing to take the time to make them (or have the
capabilities to make them to begin with). In any case, I would like to
thank you again, and I await your message, and the file...
Thank you.
TTYL,
Ralph M. Schwarz
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 266. 1-24-90 9:29.45 (RECV'D)
From: Dave Meyers
To: Brian Repic
Subject: 'PACKED' FILES
ALSO SEE: 258, 268.
Brian,
I believe that Omega-Q 2 will un-pack ARK files. There should be a copy
of it in the file directories, either 64 or 128.
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 267. 1-24-90 13:33.25 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: John Milligan
To: Joe Janakovic
Subject: QTERM/Z3 PLUS
ALSO SEE: 259, 269.
Hi Joe,
One of the many neat thins about the Z3 PLus system is the ability
to write short command (batch type) files, and have them execute in
different ways, without the SUBMIT.COM file. One of the ways, for instance,
is to use a neat little editor called SALIAS.COM which converts your
'batch' file into a COM file - which runs, like any other COM file,
without any other utility needing to be present (unless, of course, the
utility is called from the command file itself).
This is what I did with the QFIX.COM file - I don't remember exactly,
offhand, and I'm not in CP/M now - but it was something like....
conf baud=300, repeat=1
(or whatever the correct syntax is) and there may be another command
in there too. This particular COM file, then, needs CONF.COM to be present
(on some disk in the drive path) since it IS called from the command file.
But, the main point is that a short (up to 250 characters) batch or
submit type file can easily be converted to a COM file using SALIAS. There
are other ways of using scripts and batch files in Z3 Plus. All in all, I
have found Z3 Plus to be the most useful and exciting CP/M program yet.
If you would like any more info on Z Systems, just ask.
John
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 268. 1-24-90 16:16.02 (NO KILL) (RECV'D)
From: Brian Repic
To: Dave Meyers
Subject: 'PACKED' FILES
ALSO SEE: 266.
thanks dave...
Msg Base: #5 - CP/M and C128
Msg No: 269. 1-24-90 19:39.17 (RECV'D)
From: Joe Janakovic
To: John Milligan
Subject: QTERM/Z3 PLUS
ALSO SEE: 267, 271, 272.
Hi John;
In other words SALIAS is basically a compiler that will compile .SUB
files! That sounds really interesting. Actually, I think I've seen
something very similar to that in the public domain somewhere (probably
CRS)... can't remember the name though but it was reputed to be able to
'convert text files to .COM files'.
What other juicy features does the Z system come with? I notice that
there are many, many, many Z-specific files on CRS. BUT, does it run
standard CP/M software as well (or do you need to find the Z system
version?).
Also, what is the directory structure like? Does it allow a tree-like
structure with sub-directories etc.. (ie. UNIX, MS-DOS)... I somehow doubt
that it would...
Joe