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CDPub Digest Sat, 01 May 93 Volume 93: Issue 3
Today's Topics:
2nd RFD comp.publish.cdrom.*
3DO, Philips at San Jose (2 msgs)
CD-GEN Premastering Software + Philips CDD 521 Recorder (4 msgs)
CD-Rom premastering for Windows (2 msgs)
FAQ List for CD-R and CD-ROM Publishing
Intermedia Report - anyone? (6 msgs)
Kodak & Philips PCD Portfolio Announcement
Kodak Portfolio Announcement (7 msgs)
Maximum number of photos on a CD
Q: Which CD-ROM Machine to buy? (2 msgs)
VMS CDROMs from Philips CDD521
M o n t h l y A r c h i v e
o f
CDPub, the CD-R & CD-Rom Publishing Discussion List
Send Mail-Server commands to: Mail-Server@knex.via.mind.ORG
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1993 15:38:14 -0500
From: emory!yu1.yu.edu!manaster (Chaim Manaster)
Subject: 2nd RFD comp.publish.cdrom.*
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.org, CDROMLAN@idbsu.idbsu.edu, JMARME@ucs.indiana.edu
I will not have have access to the internet for about the next 10
days, so that I do not expect to post the CFV for these groups
until mid April. That works out well, given the name change
from comp.cdrom.pub.* comp.publish.cdrom.*. It will aloow several
days for the net to digest the change and allow for discussion.
Watch for the CFV at mid month.
Henry Manaster
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 93 19:40:27 SET
From: Lode Goukens <emory!FPSW.UFSIA.AC.BE!PS890866>
Subject: 3DO, Philips at San Jose
To: cdpub@knex.via.mind.org, mmos2-l@knex.via.mind.org
Hello,
I just read in Het Financieele Dagblad that Philips announced a cooperation wit
h Playboy at a multimedia fair in San Jose.
Philips sais it will not make the same mistake with CD-I it made with V2000.
Softporno will be allowed.
I thought this was an nice fait divers.
More serious now. The dutch journalist mentioned 3DO and said it was superior
to CD-I. I have seen a reuters about 3DO and I think I read an article about 3
DO in CD World. Does anyone have more about 3DO?
Press releases, e-mail addresses...
The autor of the article said it was relatively cheap to develop for 3DO's mult
iplayer. Is this true?
SO far I am tempted to make CD-roms for it, but...
Greetings,
Lode
please send replies to lode.goukens at sp1.y-net.be
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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 93 08:54:00 -0800
From: emory!spacebbs.com!kirk.jensen (Kirk Jensen)
Subject: 3DO, Philips at San Jose
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.org
PP>Date: Thu, 01 Apr 93 19:40:27 SET
PP>From: PS890866@FPSW.UFSIA.AC.BE
PP>Organization: University of Antwerp - UFSIA - Faculteit Pol. & Soc. Wet.
PP>Subject: 3DO, Philips at San Jose
PP>To: CD-R & CDRom Publishing Discussion List <CDPub@knex.via.mind.org>
PP>Reply-To: CD-R & CDRom Publishing Discussion List <CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG>
PP>
PP>Hello,
PP>I just read in Het Financieele Dagblad that Philips announced a cooperation wit
PP>h Playboy at a multimedia fair in San Jose.
PP>Philips sais it will not make the same mistake with CD-I it made with V2000.
PP>Softporno will be allowed.
PP>I thought this was an nice fait divers.
PP>
PP>More serious now. The dutch journalist mentioned 3DO and said it was superior
PP>to CD-I. I have seen a reuters about 3DO and I think I read an article about 3
PP>DO in CD World. Does anyone have more about 3DO?
PP>
PP>Press releases, e-mail addresses...
PP>
PP>The autor of the article said it was relatively cheap to develop for 3DO's mult
PP>iplayer. Is this true?
PP>
PP>SO far I am tempted to make CD-roms for it, but...
3DO is technically far superior to CD-I, and they are talking about royalties
that are 1/4 of what people are paying today. It is still in the future, and
CD-I is here today, of course.
My recollection is that it will use a special 32-bit RISC processor and some
ASIC graphics chips. Pixel update rates will be far in excess of anything
today, something over 30 million pixels per second. Full screen full motion
update at 30 frames per second can be achieved with multiple bit planes.
I hope I have most of that right, as this is not an area that I know much about.
Hopefully someone else in this group was in the same room and can give you
a better answer.
---
. KingQWK 1.05 # 141 .
----
SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines - BoardWatch Top Ten BBS
415-323-4193 (v.32bis) - 4gB (50,000 files) + Wx, UPI News, etc.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 11:59:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: emory!sscl.uwo.ca!DOUG (Doug Link)
Subject: CD-GEN Premastering Software + Philips CDD 521 Recorder
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG
Before I purchase this bundle, I would like to hear any comments from
people who are currently using the CD-GEN software (from CD-ROM
Strategies Inc., Irvine California). All the glossies and prices look
pretty good but I'd like to hear from satisfied or unsatisfied users
concerning the product. Comments about the premastering software itself
is most important.
Thanks
Douglas G. Link E-Mail doug@sscl.uwo.ca
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 19:01:19 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: CD-GEN Premastering Software + Philips CDD 521 Recorder
emory!sscl.uwo.ca!DOUG writes:
> Before I purchase this bundle, I would like to hear any comments from
> people who are currently using the CD-GEN software (from CD-ROM
> Strategies Inc., Irvine California). All the glossies and prices look
> pretty good but I'd like to hear from satisfied or unsatisfied users
> concerning the product. Comments about the premastering software itself
> is most important.
>
Sorry for the delayed response, but things have been hectic lately.
I use CD.GEN and the Philips CDD-521 and find it to be an excellent
combination. If your primary authoring platform is MsDos and the target
is also MsDos, I think, this combination is powerful.
CD.GEN is easy to use. The user interface is better than most of the
premastering software out there, but still leaves a few things to be
desired. The on-line help is less than ideal and there is very little
information in the manual other than the operation of the program. The
software is quite flexible in allowing you to create a virtual CD on
hard disk, emulate cd-rom from this virtual CD, modify and edit contents
of virtual cd before writing an image or burning the CD-R.
Compared to something like CDWrite from Philips, this is a whole lot
better. I intend to post a review shortly. If you have specific questions,
please email me personally and I will try to answer them.
Support from CD.Rom Strategies (especially from Dr Ash Pahwa) has been
pretty good. I will definitely recommend this one for the Dos platform.
Here are my choices depending on the hardware platform, from a premastering
viewpoint.
MsDos platform: CD.GEN and Philips or Sony Recorders
Apple : Apple/Sony turnkey solution available from Apple
Unix : Young Minds (hardware/software solution based on Philips)
GeSS
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CDPub List Admin. |<><>| {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 09:36 EDT
From: emory!ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu!NCCIBM1.BITNET!HGY
Subject: CD-GEN Premastering Software + Philips CDD 521 Recorder
To: CD-R & CDRom Publishing Discussion List <CDPub@KNEX.VIA.MIND.ORG>
We are also contemplating purchase of a write once setup for
use in the DOS environment. Gess: what have you got yours
hooked up to? We have some MCA machines (PS/2's) and were
thinking of using one with a write once drive, but I've been
told by one local vendor that the CDD-521 probably would not
be compatible with an MCA machine. Is this true? If so, is
it true of other write once drives as well? (Maybe the vendor
is just trying to sell us a nice ISA or EISA machine). I
appreciate all the information Gess and others have been passing
along thus far on this list. I might contribute more if I can
figure out how to send a message to the list -- the best I've been
able to figure out is how to answer a message. As you can tell,
I'm not an expert at this; I know how to log on and read my
messages, but beyond that I get a little lost!
**
David Hollandsworth
Martin Marietta Technical Services
in support of Environmental Protection Agency
National Data Processing Division
Research Triangle Park NC
(919) 541-0025
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 17:00:41 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: CD-GEN Premastering Software + Philips CDD 521 Recorder
emory!ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu!NCCIBM1.BITNET!HGY writes:
> We are also contemplating purchase of a write once setup for
> use in the DOS environment. Gess: what have you got yours
> hooked up to?
I have hooked it up to an ISA machine, I'm afraid. It is a 486/33 clone,
ISA with a BusLogic 542 controlling 2 x 1.2GB IBM SCSI drives, a Hitachi
3750 CD-Rom drive and a Wangtek DAT drive and an Adaptec 1542B connected
to the Philips CDD521/10.
I intend to experiment by placing the CDD-521 on the same bus as the
hard disk drives. But initially I preferred to put the drive on its own
bus, because the Philips docs talked about the drive not being able to
share the SCSI bus during the CD-R write sequence. (it seems to me
that there is enough bandwidth left to keep the buffers in the writer
filled, while reading from the hard disk - but I do not have any numbers
to prove or backup this guess work).
>We have some MCA machines (PS/2's) and were
> thinking of using one with a write once drive, but I've been
> told by one local vendor that the CDD-521 probably would not
> be compatible with an MCA machine. Is this true?
This is the first I have heard. !!! If anything, the thing ought to work
better using the MCA due to the expanded bus bandwidth. The software I
use CD.GEN from CD-Rom Strategies and many others including Topix from
OMI and CD-Write from Philips all seem to depend on ASPI4DOS and they only
provide ASPI drivers to talk to the Philips unit.
So, for your MCA machine, all you may need is an MCA adapter (Adaptec 1742?)
or any other adapter which can run ASPI4DOS from Adaptec or equivalent from
the host adpater vendor. (BusLogic provide their own ASPI4DOS equivalent e.g.
which works great). The key is ASPI, not the bus of your machine.
>If so, is
> it true of other write once drives as well? (Maybe the vendor
> is just trying to sell us a nice ISA or EISA machine).
Could well be. Very few vendors are familiar with MCA and they try to push
what they know or comfortable with.. Just guessing here. Philips, Sony et
al require a decent SCSI host adapter and that is all. In the Dos environment,
the premastering programs seem to be based on ASPI. With the Adaptec 1742
and ASPI, you should be set to go.
>I
> appreciate all the information Gess and others have been passing
> along thus far on this list. I might contribute more if I can
> figure out how to send a message to the list -- the best I've been
> able to figure out is how to answer a message. As you can tell,
> I'm not an expert at this; I know how to log on and read my
> messages, but beyond that I get a little lost!
You must be sending email to people. Well, posting to the list is same
as sending email. Just address your message to cdpub@knex.via.mind.org and
away you go. I wish I knew more about the mailer you use, but others may
jump in and offer suggestions.
GeSS
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Gess Shankar |<><>| Internet: gess@knex.via.mind.ORG |<><>|
CDPub List Admin. |<><>| {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
What is a CDRom? |<><>| 3 billion pits arranged in a 3 mile spiral! |<><>|
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 18:16:15 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: CD-Rom premastering for Windows
I had heard of a product called Win-on-CD (from a German vendor, probably
available only in Europe). My enquiries in the States turned up nothing
as far as source or information on this product.
Trace is offering a Windows-based premastering software, called
"disComposer". This product is supposed to work with Windows File Manager
allowing one to select directories and files, select placement on the
CD for optimum performance and allow file ordering and indexing of audio
files for sync'ing audio and text/graphics files. It can do ISO-9660 and
High Sierra formats. Mixed mode CDs can be formatted (data and Red Book
Audio).
The software lists for $2,995. This works with Trace LH-2600 CD-R
Recorder system. The recorder is priced at $ 8,999. (This is probably
either a Sony or Philips recorder. gs)
Contact Info:
Trace
CD-Rom Division
1040 East Brokaw Road
San Jose, CA 95131
Phone: 408/437-3375
Fax : 408/437-3393
GeSS
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Gess Shankar |<><>| Internet: gess@knex.via.mind.ORG |<><>|
CDPub List Admin. |<><>| {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
What is a CDRom? |<><>| 3 billion pits arranged in a 3 mile spiral! |<><>|
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 13:16:47 +0000 (BST)
From: emory!compsci.liverpool.ac.uk!M.Zheng
Subject: CD-Rom premastering for Windows
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG
>
> I had heard of a product called Win-on-CD (from a German vendor, probably
> available only in Europe). My enquiries in the States turned up nothing
> as far as source or information on this product.
We are using the WinOnCD from CeQuadrat (Germany). We bought it from a
local computer dealer in around 1800 pounds (I can't remember the
exact price). The WinOnCD is a window application with an interface
for users to organize the Table of Contents (TOC). It works with
Philips CDD521 recorder. The WinOnCD can write CD-ROM, CD-Audio, CD-I,
CD-XA1 and CD-XA2 from raw file (ISO9660), S-tree, ISO-dir, Raw
Device, Opt-Image (for CD-I) and RIFF/AIFF(audio).
By the way, I posted a message to alt.cd-rom group a few weeks ago to
ask if the CDD521 can read and I got several replies (thanks to
everyone including GeSS). Actually, the WinOnCD package includes a
CDD521 driver called CDD521.exe (it's not mentioned on the manual or
there is a seperate manual for the CDD521.exe but we don't have. The
services of the local dealer was too bad. They even didn't give us the
WinOnCD manual if I didn't ask for). With the CDD521.exe, the CDD521
recorder can be used as a multi-session CD-ROM drive.
Min
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 18:33:52 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: FAQ List for CD-R and CD-ROM Publishing
Hello,
I am in the process of putting together a FAQ list for CD-R & CD-Rom
Publishing. If any of you have questions and answers, please send them
my way.
Many thanks.
GeSS
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Gess Shankar |<><>| Internet: gess@knex.via.mind.ORG |<><>|
CDPub List Admin. |<><>| {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
What is a CDRom? |<><>| 3 billion pits arranged in a 3 mile spiral! |<><>|
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Date: Thu, 22 Apr 93 18:29:46 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: Intermedia Report - anyone?
Well, Folks.
Intermedia has come and gone. I was hoping for some reports for people
who visited the show from CD-Rom publishing perspective.
I was there, but just for a day. And I had a fixed agenda and could not
cover the show as extensively as I would have liked. If no one else
volunteers, I will post some information.
GeSS
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Gess Shankar |<><>| Internet: gess@knex.via.mind.ORG |<><>|
CDPub List Admin. |<><>| {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
What is a CDRom? |<><>| 3 billion pits arranged in a 3 mile spiral! |<><>|
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 12:15:47 -0400
From: emory!xgml.com!emp
Subject: Intermedia Report - anyone?
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.org
Gess, I think you stopped by our booth (Exoterica, across from
Passport Systems). We were showing MS Cinemania, focusing on what we
did to get the text in the target format. I'd have a report, but I
didn't have that much time to go looking around. In your one day
walking the aisles, you probably saw more of the show than I did in
three days glued to the booth.
I did post somewhat of an irreverent view of the show in, of all
places, rec.juggling. If you can get it, you'll see that it's more
suited to that forum than yours.
Too bad I didn't identify myself when you were in the booth. I recall
seeing a 'Gess' on your name tag, but I hadn't paid any attention to
your sig until after the show.
-- Eric Promislow--emp@xgml.com--Exoterica Corporation, Ottawa, Ontario
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 93 20:35:58 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: Intermedia Report - anyone?
emory!xgml.com!emp writes:
> Gess, I think you stopped by our booth (Exoterica, across from
> Passport Systems). We were showing MS Cinemania, focusing on what we
Yes, I did spend some time at the Exoterica booth and plan to order the
demo version you folks were offering. Don't have my notes handy, so I
don't recall who I talked to. Microsoft sent me over to your booth
because they said they use your product to do the SGML->RTF conversion
before applying their multimedia Viewer tool.
> I did post somewhat of an irreverent view of the show in, of all
> places, rec.juggling. If you can get it, you'll see that it's more
> suited to that forum than yours.
>
We can do with irreverence here too (occasionally). So go ahead and post
it here if you like. I don't get to read rec.juggling unfortunately.
GeSS
--
Gess Shankar |<><>|Internet: gess@knex.via.mind.ORG |<><>|
Knowledge Exchange|<><>|{rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 10:30:59 -0300
From: emory!ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU!jschull (Jon Schull)
Subject: Intermedia Report - anyone?
To: CD-R & CDRom Publishing Discussion List <CDPub@knex.via.mind.org>,
At 20:35 4/25/93 -0400, gess@knex.via.mind.ORG wrote:
>emory!xgml.com!emp writes:
>
>> Gess, I think you stopped by our booth (Exoterica, across from
>> Passport Systems). We were showing MS Cinemania, focusing on what we
>
>Yes, I did spend some time at the Exoterica booth and plan to order the
>demo version you folks were offering. Don't have my notes handy, so I
>don't recall who I talked to. Microsoft sent me over to your booth
>because they said they use your product to do the SGML->RTF conversion
>before applying their multimedia Viewer tool.
I'd like to know more about Exoterica!
Jon Schull 215-896-1237 (fax: -1494)
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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 10:44:41 -0400
From: emory!yu1.yu.edu!manaster (Chaim Manaster)
Subject: Intermedia Report - anyone?
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.org
I would like to get that Exoterica demo as well, can anyone send
me the email address for Exoterica. I didn't save this thread so I
don't have it.
Thank you very much for the help.
Henry Manaster
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 22:34:43 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: Intermedia Report - anyone?
emory!yu1.yu.edu!manaster writes:
>
> I would like to get that Exoterica demo as well, can anyone send
> me the email address for Exoterica. I didn't save this thread so I
> don't have it.
>
This whole subject, I believe, was introduced by Eric Promislow of
Exoterica Corp. (emp@xgml.com). Perhaps you can email him for suggestion
on who to contact to get more information.
Since I have the privilege of reading the list's mail first, I will
provide some info.
The demo I was talking about is called "Test Drive OMNIMARK". This is
supposed to be the real Omnimark stuff, except for the limitiation on
the size of the document it can process/save. But all the features are
alleged to be there for you to test to your heart's content.
You may need to talk to someone at Exoterica beforehand, because the
Test Drive is available for a wide variety of platforms such as
MsDos, Sun Sparc, SGI, IBM RS/6000, NeXT, OS/2 etc.
Contact Information:
Exoterica Corporation
1545 Carling Avenue, Suite 404
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1Z 8P9
Phone: 800.565.9465 (North America Only)
613.722.1700 (Outside North America)
Fax : 613.722.5706
Internet: info@xgml.com
Perhaps Eric can jump in and offer more info on OmniMark and what it
can do.
GeSS
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Gess Shankar |<><>| Internet: gess@knex.via.mind.ORG |<><>|
CDPub List Admin. |<><>| {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
What is a CDRom? |<><>| 3 billion pits arranged in a 3 mile spiral! |<><>|
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 93 13:45:40 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: Kodak & Philips PCD Portfolio Announcement
Here is an announcement from Kodak/Philips, which will be of interest to you.
----------------------- Start of Text --------------------------------------
30-Mar-93 22:39:45
Sb: #PCD Portfolio Licensing
Fm: Paul McAfee [Kodak] 70007,6241
To: ALL
KODAK AND PHILIPS ANNOUNCE LICENSING FOR
MASS PRODUCTION OF PRERECORDED PHOTO CD DISCS
SAN JOSE, Calif., Mar. 30, 1993-In response to growing
customer demand, Eastman Kodak Company and Philips
announced today that a licensing program to allow mass
replication of prerecorded Photo CD discs will soon be available.
In order to manufacture prerecorded Photo CD discs, disc
manufacturers will need to obtain licenses from both Kodak and
Philips.
Currently, the only way to produce a Photo CD disc is through
a photofinisher or service bureau that uses a Kodak Photo CD
Imaging Workstation. Photo CD Imaging Workstations produce
custom Photo CD discs individually, or in small quantities, from
photographic negatives and transparencies.
"We have been besieged by requests from publishers who want
to mass produce their own Photo CD titles," explained Fred Geyer,
general manager, CD Imaging, at Kodak. "These have included
photographers, who want to distribute their stock photos on disc;
merchants, who are considering putting catalogs on disc; and
publishers of entertainment and educational software, who want to
use Photo CD players as home entertainment and educational
platforms.
"A very successful example of a mass produced Photo CD disc
is the title From Alice to Ocean, by Rick Smolan," Geyer said. "We
produced this disc for inclusion in Rick Smolan's book of the same
title as a demonstration of the communications power of our Photo
CD Portfolio format."
"We believe this is a very positive move that will enable the
industry to adopt Photo CD as the standard for professional
electronic publishing applications," added John Hawkins, general
manager, Philips Interactive Media.
Replicating Photo CD Discs
Kodak and Philips will cooperate in a licensing program that
makes it possible for publishers to produce and distribute discs in
larger quantities using the Photo CD format. Under the licensing
arrangement, those wishing to publish a Photo CD title will take
their Photo CD discs to a CD-audio or CD-ROM disc manufacturer.
The disc manufacturers will mass produce the contents of the Photo
CD disc in a manner similar to the way they mass produce audio
CDs and CD-ROM discs today.
The starting point for mass production can be one of three
Kodak Photo CD disc formats-Photo CD Master, Pro Photo CD
Master, or Photo CD Portfolio. In addition, discs produced in a
CD-I authoring studio, or in a Photo CD-enabled desktop imaging
system, may be mass produced. The publisher will take the
original Photo CD disc to an authorized manufacturer to have it
manufactured from the gold-colored Photo CD original.
To produce Photo CD discs in quantity, manufacturers will
employ techniques similar to the ones they use for CD-ROM and
audio compact discs. In this process, a laser records a continuous
stream of data onto a glass plate with a recordable coating. The
glass is then used to make a nickel stamper. The stamper is placed
in an injection molding machine, which physically holds a newly-
formed disc with the encoded data. Production costs for this
process make it practical for applications that require hundreds or
thousands of discs.
Kodak and Philips plan to initiate the licensing program for
Photo CD discs late this spring.
###
(Note: Kodak is a trademark.)
-------------------------------- end of text -------------------------------
GeSS
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CDPub List Admin. |<><>| {rutgers,ogicse,gatech}!emory!uumind!knex!gess |<><>|
What is a CDRom? |<><>| 3 billion pits arranged in a 3 mile spiral! |<><>|
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 93 13:42:14 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: Kodak Portfolio Announcement
A release from Kodak, which will be of interest to the list.
--------------------- Text of the Kodak Release ------------------------------
03-Apr-93 17:07:02
Sb: #New PCD Portfolio
Fm: Paul McAfee [Kodak] 70007,6241
To: ALL
KODAK ANNOUNCES NEW PHOTO CD PORTFOLIO SOFTWARE
Multimedia Publishing Format Demonstrated at Intermedia Conference
SAN JOSE, Calif., Mar. 30, 1993-Eastman Kodak Company
today announced and demonstrated its new software for authoring
Photo CD discs at desktop computers. The new Photo CD Portfolio
authoring software will create Photo CD Portfolio format discs that
can become a major publishing medium, for use on TV and
computers.
Kodak Leads in Delivering Photography to the Computer
Desktop
Georgia L. McCabe, director for Kodak's worldwide
Commercial CD Imaging organization, said "The Portfolio
authoring software provides commercial customers increased
access to the benefits of the Photo CD formats. This is the
beginning of desktop creation of custom-designed multimedia
titles."
Features of the new software include creation of discs
containing combinations of photographic images, stereo audio,
graphics and text screens, and programmed access.
Photo CD and CD-I players can display Kodak Photo CD
Portfolio discs, like all Photo CD format discs, on TV. The discs
also can be used on computers with a Photo CD-compatible CD-
ROM XA drive and the appropriate software. The Photo CD
Portfolio format is set to become the universal cross-platform
CD-ROM publishing medium.
Photo CD Portfolio Authoring Software Features
The new Photo CD Portfolio software provides users the ability
to create Photo CD Portfolio discs at their desktops. Users can do
the following:
Develop and produce interactive multimedia
presentations and titles directly on the desktop in the
Photo CD Portfolio format, combining photos, audio,
graphics, text, and programmed access
Edit images from Photo CD Master or Pro Photo CD
Master discs using off-the-shelf image editing software
and write the edited files to Photo CD Portfolio discs for
storage or distribution
Combine photographic-quality images from Photo CD
Master and Pro Photo CD Master discs with other digital
images to create Photo CD Portfolio discs for
presentations, storage, or distribution
Copy Photo CD Master and Pro Photo CD Master discs to
Kodak Photo CD Portfolio discs for low- to medium-
volume distribution
Merge images from an assortment of Photo CD Master
and Pro Photo CD Master discs to new Photo CD
Portfolio discs
A module of the Photo CD authoring software package will be
used to convert non-Photo CD images, such as TIFF files, to Photo
CD image pack format. The converted images can be used on
Photo CD Portfolio discs along with Photo CD images. This means
users can include images generated with virtually any image-
creation or image-editing software, such as Adobe Photoshop, and
with digital cameras such as the Kodak DCS Professional Digital
Camera System.
The new features provide photographers and designers with the
ability to edit Photo CD images and save them to Photo CD
Portfolio discs in the Photo CD image pack format. The features
also enable producers of presentations to create images in other
software applications, then convert those images to Photo CD
image pack format before writing them to Photo CD Portfolio discs.
The resulting discs will be usable on any Photo CD-compatible
device-on TV and on computers.
Kodak's Portfolio authoring software comprises the following
utilities:
Image-packer, which converts TIFF files to Photo CD format
Copy/merge, which copies Photo CD image packs from
other Photo CD discs, maintaining Photo CD playback
compatibility
Portfolio organizer, which arranges the digital information,
including images and audio, with linear and non-linear
sequencing (programmed access or branching), in the Photo
CD format
Kodak will publish a description language so other software
developers can support output to Photo CD Portfolio discs from
within their applications. The description language will be
interpreted by the Photo CD authoring software, to be written
subsequently to a Photo CD Portfolio disc at the desktop or at a
service bureau, photo lab, or photofinisher.
Photo CD Portfolio Applications
Using the features of the Photo CD Portfolio format-which can
include digital photos, audio, text, graphics, and programmed
access, users can produce:
Business presentations with narration and menu choices
Real estate listings with photos, audio, and descriptive text
Training and education materials for wide or narrow
distribution
Wedding albums with music and narration
School yearbooks with audio
Family trees with branches and comments
Books with narration
With Kodak Photo CD Portfolio disc authoring software, the
user can create these applications on the desktop. Moderate
quantities of individual titles can be produced directly at the
desktop using the Kodak PCD writer 200. Each original Photo CD
Portfolio disc also can be used as a master for mass production of
discs, using the same process that now is used for audio CDs.
Mass-produced CD-ROM discs can cost as little as one dollar each,
which makes this format an economical publishing tool.
Pricing and Availability
Kodak plans to ship Photo CD Portfolio authoring software this
summer. The software will be available first for Sun Sparc Stations,
next for the Macintosh computer platform, and finally for the
Windows platform sometime in the future.
Prospective users of Photo CD Portfolio authoring software can
call the Kodak Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-242-2424,
extension 53, for more information. Software developers interested
in integrating support for Portfolio authoring in their own
applications also may call this number for more information.
Software pricing will be announced at a later date.
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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 17:06:49 BST
From: "JOSEPHINE SHAW, ATTICA CYBERNETICS, OXFORD, UK."
Subject: Kodak Portfolio Announcement
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG
Does anyone know the maximum number of images a Photo CD can contain?
Does it make any difference if you are converting from TIFF, as to the number
you can fit on the CD ???
I was just wondering, as creating Multimedia presentations, or saleable
products, tends to require vast quantities of both images and audio. What
are the advantages of the Kodak Photo CD format over regular CD's???
Jos Shaw
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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 17:06:49 BST
From: "JOSEPHINE SHAW, ATTICA CYBERNETICS, OXFORD, UK."
Subject: Kodak Portfolio Announcement
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG
Does anyone know the maximum number of images a Photo CD can contain?
Does it make any difference if you are converting from TIFF, as to the number
you can fit on the CD ???
I was just wondering, as creating Multimedia presentations, or saleable
products, tends to require vast quantities of both images and audio. What
are the advantages of the Kodak Photo CD format over regular CD's???
Jos Shaw
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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 17:06:49 BST
From: "JOSEPHINE SHAW, ATTICA CYBERNETICS, OXFORD, UK."
Subject: Kodak Portfolio Announcement
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG
Does anyone know the maximum number of images a Photo CD can contain?
Does it make any difference if you are converting from TIFF, as to the number
you can fit on the CD ???
I was just wondering, as creating Multimedia presentations, or saleable
products, tends to require vast quantities of both images and audio. What
are the advantages of the Kodak Photo CD format over regular CD's???
Jos Shaw
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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 17:06:49 BST
From: "JOSEPHINE SHAW, ATTICA CYBERNETICS, OXFORD, UK."
Subject: Kodak Portfolio Announcement
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG
Does anyone know the maximum number of images a Photo CD can contain?
Does it make any difference if you are converting from TIFF, as to the number
you can fit on the CD ???
I was just wondering, as creating Multimedia presentations, or saleable
products, tends to require vast quantities of both images and audio. What
are the advantages of the Kodak Photo CD format over regular CD's???
Jos Shaw
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Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 02:44:55 EDT
From: emory!aol.com!alan123
Subject: Kodak Portfolio Announcement
To: cdpub@knex.via.mind.org
>Does anyone know the maximum number of images a Photo CD can contain?
I think it is 100
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 93 14:59:09 LCL
From: emory!SUVM.SYR.EDU!ZOOEY
Subject: Kodak Portfolio Announcement
To: CD-R & CDRom Publishing Discussion List <CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG>
I was told that 100 images is a typical full PhotoCD, but that it depends
on the size of the images (which will vary by compression effectiveness)
and other factors. I made a PhotoCD with 80 slides taken in a forest.
The occupy, with the viewing software, 421.2 MB of space. I assume that
I could have put almost 120 such images on this PhotoCD.
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 16:18:19 +0200 (MET DST)
From: emory!math.fu-berlin.de!guckes (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Maximum number of photos on a CD
To: CDPub@knex.via.mind.ORG
Quoting alan123@aol.com :
>
> >Does anyone know the maximum number of images a Photo CD can contain?
>
> I think it is 100
You would probably get more than 100 photos onto a CD if you could
select the resolutions and formats.
I wonder how many photos I could have on a PhotoCD
if I could skip the two highest of the five resolutions
and have them stored as JPEGs at 50%.
What about it, Kodak?
Sven :)
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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 93 08:41:09 EDT
From: emory!suvm.acs.syr.EDU!ingerman(Bret Ingerman 315-443-1114)
Subject: Q: Which CD-ROM Machine to buy?
To: CD-R & CDRom Publishing Discussion List <CDPub@knex.via.mind.org>
We are interested in purchasing a SONY CD-Pressing station. Does anyone
have any comments on this unit? We have looked at the others and are
impressed with the performance of the SONY. It also seems that the
Pinnacle unit does things in a non-standard manner. Is there any truth to
this?
Any help would be appreciated.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bret Ingerman internet: ingerman@suvm.syr.edu
Manager, Advanced Applications Group bitnet: ingerman@suvm
Computing Services
Syracuse University phone: (315) 443-1114
105 Archbold fax: (315) 443-1865
Syracuse, NY 13244-1140
USA
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 93 09:58:41 EDT
From: Gess Shankar <gess@knex.via.mind.ORG>
Subject: Q: Which CD-ROM Machine to buy?
emory!suvm.acs.syr.EDU!ingerman writes:
> We are interested in purchasing a SONY CD-Pressing station. Does anyone
> have any comments on this unit? We have looked at the others and are
> impressed with the performance of the SONY. It also seems that the
> Pinnacle unit does things in a non-standard manner. Is there any truth to
> this?
>
The 2 leading contenders appear to be Philips and Sony, though JVC is not
far behind. At the recent Intermedia at San Jose, Apple was showing a
publishing unit based on the Sony Writer and Sony written software for
the Mac. The set up looked impressive and the price very attractive. I
also liked the looks of the software (does both HFS and ISO-9660). Apple
heads may go for this in a big way.
The Apple guy claimed that Apple did a lot of work and decided on the Sony
because of its reliability, ability to write 74' CD-Roms reliably and its
bigger internal buffers. As a user of Philips unit, I was somewhat concerned
about this and decided to get an opinion from a third party, who had no bias.
So I posed the question to Dr Ash Pahwa of CD.Rom Strategies, who was
also at the same show. (CD.Rom Strategies sells CD.GEN, which is a
premastering software for Dos and Unix and supports both the Philips and
Sony writers.)
According to him, both Philips and Sony units are equally good. He discounted
the theory that the Philips does not write 74' media reliably, as he had
used both units to write 74' media without experiencing any unusual
problems. Also the Sony unit cannot read CD-R or CD-Roms, whereas the
Philips unit can.
I did not see Pinnacle at the show. They have only recently entered the
market and currently only support Apple as the host for the writer. If your
work is going to be primarily Mac, I will recommend that you look at the
Apple solution. (And therefore the Sony unit).
If not, I will go for the Philips unit and get premastering software for
the platform of your choice (Unix.Dos - CD.GEN from CD.Rom Strategies)
(Unix.Dos.Mac - QuickTopix, MacTopix from OMI), (Unix.Dos = Young Minds
Inc).
Ricoh was showing some CD-R recorders also, but kept somewhat of a low
profile. It was difficult to get information from them. :(
GeSS
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 93 11:48:27 +0100
From: emory!ilo.dec.com!okeeffe
Subject: VMS CDROMs from Philips CDD521
To: cdpub@knex.via.mind.org
Hi,
I have a CDD521 here. I have successfully made CDROMs
using CDGEN and using the output of the Young Minds s/w.
I have been trying to make a VMS disk using it but with
little success yet. I have a routine which produces data in 2kblocks
and 8K records which is what I beleive MASTERCD requires as input. But
the final CDROM will not work on the VMS system. I have also tried to
use a more buggy PSCRIBE software on the Philips machine but
with the same result.
Has anybody out there used the Philips for anything other than
Young Minds or CDGEN? What suceess have you had?
Mike
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