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From news Wed Jul 13 07:10:28 1988
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From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@usenix.org>
Newsgroups: comp.std.unix,comp.org.usenix
Subject: standard article
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From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@usenix.org>
USENIX and Standards
As a result of the increasing importance of standards in the UNIX
community, the USENIX Association is expanding its involvement in
standards related to the UNIX operating system. The Association is
interested in promoting technical stability through standards without
limiting technical progress.
Since 1986, the Association has had an Institutional Representative on
the IEEE P1003 (POSIX) committee. This expanding standards effort
includes greater coverage of the P1003 subcommittees, as well as the
/usr/group Technical Committee and of the ANSII X3J11 C Language committee.
USENIX Association standards involvement includes:
% providing information to the membership and the public through ;login:,
comp.std.unix on USENET, BOFs at conferences, and in the trade press;
% providing forums for technical discussion which may include
workshops or technical sessions at conferences;
% acting as an ombudsman for those otherwise unrepresented on the
standards committees;
% encouraging people to become involved in the standards efforts;
% attempting to enhance the technical quality of the standards by
encouraging concise, written proposals.
This expanded USENIX Association standards effort is being implemented
through two committees. The first is a working committee of volunteers
from the various standards committees. The second is a policy committee
initially consisting of Alan G. Nemeth, USENIX Association President,
John S. Quarterman, USENIX Association Director and the Association's
Institutional Representative to the IEEE P1003 committee, Shane McCarron,
IEEE P1003.1 Secretary, and Grover Righter.
Volume-Number: Volume 14, Number 27
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From: std-unix@longway.TIC.COM (Moderator, John S. Quarterman)
Newsgroups: comp.std.unix
Subject: Tasks of Volunteers for USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee
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Tasks of Volunteers
for
USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee
Policy Committee
The Policy Committee makes policy decisions, and currently
consists of Alan G. Nemeth (USENIX President), John S. Quar-
terman (USENIX Institutional Representative to IEEE 1003),
Shane P. McCarron (IEEE 1003 Secretary), and Grover P.
Righter (well-known IEEE 1003 participant).
There are a few organisational positions:
Volunteer Organiser
This person, currently Mark Colburn, is responsible for
coordinating who is watching which committee. Ideally,
there will be at least one person watching each IEEE
1003 subcommittee, each /usr/group Technical Committee
Working Group, X3J11, and special delegates to OSF and
Sun/AT&T. These people need to know of each other, and
people need to be found and delegated for committees
that are not covered.
Report Editor
Shane McCarron has been writing quarterly reports for
USENIX after each IEEE 1003 meeting for almost a year
now. Each Watchdog Committee member should provide a
written report after each meeting for Shane to edit
into a combined report.
Working Committee
The Watchdog Committee is neither a standards body in the
sense of IEEE 1003 or X3J11, nor a pre-standards body in the
sense of the /usr/group Technical Committee. Its purpose is
to keep track of standards bodies, not to become one.
A typical Watchdog Committee volunteer should be some-
one who is already attending a standards committee's meet-
ings, and who is willing to add USENIX functions to the
tasks already being performed. USENIX does not pay these
volunteers, nor even reimburse expenses.
December 12, 1988
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There are five basic tasks that a volunteer for the
USENIX Watchdog Committee might be called on to do.
reporting
The most basic task is to provide a written report to
the report editor about significant activities in the
committee being watched. See the accompanying descrip-
tion of what should be in such a report.
influencing
Encourage written proposals by members of the committee
being watched, and otherwise promote reasonable and
productive technical discussion.
ombudsman
Introduce ideas or even proposals from people and
groups who can't attend meetings. This may be done
either at the discretion of the watcher or sometimes at
the request of the Policy Committee.
recruiting
Try to find people who should be participating in stan-
dards activities and encourage them to do so. For
example, if a particular technical area is being con-
sidered in a committee, and you know of a group that is
doing major work in that area, informing that group of
the discussion and enouraging them to get involved
would be good.
speaking for USENIX
The least common task will be to speak for USENIX. A
volunteer may do this only when authorised to do so by
the Policy Committee, and needs to make sure the
affected standards group understands when this is hap-
pening.
The Policy Committee may decide that direct action
needs to be taken in a standards body, perhaps by presenta-
tion of a proposal, or by arguing for or against another
proposal. In this case, the Policy Committee may ask the
watching volunteer(s) to do so (the volunteers may, of
course, decide not to do so). Or the Policy Committee may
send one of its members to do so.
The only specific directive from the USENIX Board of
Directors is to attempt to prevent standards from prohibit-
ing technical innovation, so most direct action will prob-
ably be related to that. However, the Policy Committee also
has a free hand to take any other action that seems
appropriate.
December 12, 1988
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Contacts
To volunteer, or for further information, please contact:
USENIX Institutional Representative
John S. Quarterman
jsq@longway.tic.com
+1-512-320-9031
Texas Internet Consulting
701 Brazos, Suite 500
Austin, TX 78701-3243
Watchdog Volunteer Organiser
Mark Colburn
mark@naps.mn.org
+1-612-224-9108
NAPS International
117 Mackubin St.
Suite 1
St. Paul, MN 55102
Watchdog Report Editor
Shane P. McCarron
ahby@bungia.mn.org
uunet!bungia.mn.org!ahby
+1-612-224-9239
NAPS International
117 Mackubin St.
Suite 6
St. Paul, MN 55102
December 12, 1988
Volume-Number: Volume 15, Number 46
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From: std-unix@longway.TIC.COM (Moderator, John S. Quarterman)
Newsgroups: comp.std.unix
Subject: Reports from Volunteers of the USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee
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Reports from Volunteers
of the
USENIX Standards Watchdog Committee
Each volunteer on the USENIX Standards Watchdog Commi-
tee should provide a written report to the report editor
after each standards meeting. These need to be rather
high-level reports, unlike either the official minutes of
the meeting, or the reports of events that appear in
/usr/group's CommUNIXations magazine. More how, why, and
who, than just what.
Specific kinds of desirable information include:
Issues:
Things that are new, important, controversial, or
chronically discussed. Although the Policy Committee
may suggest some specific things to watch for, mostly
picking issues to report is left to the discretion of
the volunteer.
Arguments:
on each side of the issues.
Parties:
Who is promoting each side, preferably phrased as types
of parties, such as vendors, users, user groups, etc.
But when in doubt, give names and details; let the
report editor worry about paraphrasing for publication.
Recommendations:
What you think should be watched closely, what you
think should happen, and what you think USENIX should
do about it.
Opinions:
Whatever else you think people should know.
December 13, 1988
Volume-Number: Volume 15, Number 47
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From: Dave Sill <dsill@relay-nswc.navy.mil>
Newsgroups: comp.std.unix
Subject: USENIX Standards Updates
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Date: 12 Dec 88 15:26:53 GMT
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From: Dave Sill <dsill@relay-nswc.navy.mil>
First, let me say that I respect Shane McCarron, value his opinions on
standards-related issues, and appreciate USENIX's efforts to promote
standards awareness.
But...
The latest Standards Update was far too editorial. In fact, it seems
to have become more of a soapbox for Mr. McCarron than an attempt to
make the masses aware of recent progress in standardization. In
particular, Part 3, NIST (NBS) Federal Information Processing
Standards contained about one and a half paragraphs reporting what
NIST has done recently and expects to be doing in the future, but four
and a half paragraphs of opinion on the worthiness of their approach.
Apparently Mr. McCarron has trouble making the distinction between
journalism and editorialization. The Standards Update should be just
that: an update of the progress of standardization efforts. There are
other, more appropriate, forums, such as this mailing list/newsgroup,
for Mr McCarron's opinions.
This problem has already been brought to his attention. In Part 8,
POSIX 1003.7 Update, he writes:
"When I last wrote about this group, I was very critical of
its charter and the possibility of it succeeding. I think
it only fair to relate that a number of people wrote me and
said that I was too judgemental, and that I should take a
wait and see attitude. Bowing to the will of the people, I
am not going to draw any conclusions about the working group
at this time. After the January meeting, when they have
formalized the areas they are going to address, I will
relate all of that information and you can decide if what
they are doing is a good thing. In the interim, if you want
more information, or would like to share your opinions with
me, please drop me a line."
Exactly, Mr. McCarron, relate the information and let the reader form
his own opinion.
=========
The opinions expressed above are mine.
"Money is congealed energy."
-- Joe Campbell
Volume-Number: Volume 15, Number 49