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- Submitted-by: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F Haugh II)
-
- In article <16873@cs.utexas.edu> mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) writes:
- >You should also know that copy-on-write fork(), unlike vfork(), is inherently
- >buggy and can not be a general-purpose useful memory management mechanism.
-
- You are confusing theory with implementation. There is nothing "inherently"
- buggy with either vfork() or copy-on-write fork(). vfork() is fairly
- inflexible, and as pointed out by other writers, completely superfluous
- given a properly implemented fork().
-
- >If you have 50MB swap space and want to fork() 30MB process to exec less
- >than 1MB shell, you can't. With COW fork(), there is workaround. But the
- >workaround is so incomplete that the system sometimes deadlocks.
-
- Again, the problem you are alluding to results from the choice of early
- or late allocation of paging space. If you choose early allocation, you
- are correct - you can't fork() a 30MB process with only 20MB remaining.
- And yes, if you choose late allocation it is possible to deadlock, but
- only in the cases where you are doing more than you are with vfork().
- Thus your complaint is simply invalid. If I modify no pages between
- fork() and exec() with late allocated COW fork(), I will =never= run
- out of page space simply because I required no additional pages. Any
- scenario where I do modify a page is unsuitable for vfork(), so there
- is no room for comparision of the merits of fork() with vfork().
-
- >Thus, fork(), even COW fork(), is not a proper mechanism to fork-exec
- >other processes.
-
- If you wish to describe some operation which is a simple fork-exec
- then you are correct. However, process creation frequently involves
- more than forking and execing a new command. It often involves the
- creation of IPC mechanisms (pipes, etc), signal manipulation, I/O
- redirection, ad nauseum.
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