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- From: John S. Quarterman <jsq@usenix.org>
-
- >I must confess that I've assumed all along that the purpose of the
- >Updates was to summarize the various minutes so Usenix members and
- >readers of this group wouldn't have to subscribe to them directly, as
- >well as including any other relevant standards-related information.
- ...
- >Also, I disagree that reporting on controversial subjects and
- > opinions either implies or requires editorialization.
-
- Minutes of IEEE 1003 meetings tend to be quite long, and there
- are many of them. Reducing them to a quickly legible size would
- involve massive selection. That selection itself would involve
- opinions of an editor. Such opinions would be implicit, but they
- would be there, even in this apparently most neutral approach.
-
- Because such opinions would be implicit, there would be danger
- of their being taken as fact by people who did not read the full
- minutes.
-
- Simple summaries of minutes would have another disadvantage:
- the minutes tend to be very laconic and often do not record
- larger issues such as all the arguments on both sides of a
- discussion (some of which may have appeared in previous minutes,
- in the rationale, or may simply not have been recorded), or
- the context of a discussion or decision in a larger controversy,
- or some of the implications of a decision for other standards or
- external groups. This kind of information is not widely available,
- and it is one of the main things that is wanted in these reports.
- The USENIX board has wanted to have this kind of information available
- since at least 1984, and a mechanism has only recently been found.
-
- >Yes, opinions are important; but not just Shane's. What I want to
- >read about is the opinions of the movers and shakers in
- >standardization and the prevailing opinions of the user community.
-
- Other such opinions have been explicitly solicited in previous articles.
- Such opininions can be either submitted directly to the moderator of
- comp.std.unix or the editor of ;login: for posting, or they can given
- to Shane for inclusion in the reports he writes. Volunteers on the
- watchdog committee are also explicitly asked to provide opinions of
- their own.
-
- >I don't think we can expect Shane's opinions to be an accurate
- >representation of such a large and diverse group.
-
- I know of no one's opinions that can be so regarded.
-
- >These Updates are not just stating common or representative opinions,
- >they are taking sides and promoting the opinion of one individual.
-
- One person's common or representative opinion is another person's
- controversial issue. However, the reports are *intended* to take sides.
- People who take other sides are, once again, encouraged to speak up
- with their own discussions of the issues.
-
- >Let comp.std.unix/std-unix be the forum for personal opinion and the
- >Standards Updates be an objective report of the developments and issues.
-
- Thank you for your input.
-
- Volume-Number: Volume 15, Number 58
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