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- From: jmb@patton.SGI.COM (Jim Barton)
-
- In article <147@longway.TIC.COM>:
- > From: uunet!wlbr.eaton.com!etn-rad!jru (John Unekis)
- >
- > We recently had some SUN reps come to give a presentation about SPARC.
- > They were strongly suggesting that due to their relationship with AT&T
- > (that is AT&T will soon sell SPARC) it will soon be the case that if you
- > are not a SPARC machine you will not *really* be UNIX compatible. They
- > were talking about a coming binary standard, so that you could buy a
- > program written for UNIX and know that it would run on your UNIX machine
- > the same way you know that PC software will always run on your Intel/PC.
- > This binary standard would assumably be based on the SPARC instruction
- > set.
- > Is this stuff true or is it just marketing hype? Is UNIX really going to
- > become hardware dependent? What about all of us out here with our 680x0
- > or 80x86 or VAXen or whatever? Are we going to be second-class UNIX users,
- > unable to run the bulk of UNIX software? Can anybody out there clarify
- > this?
- >
- > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- > Any opinion expressed above is mine only. {ihnp4 or voder}!wlbr!etn-rad!jru
- >
- > Volume-Number: Volume 13, Number 34
-
- Before one bites too hard on this hype, you should remember that Sun will
- soon be selling 80386 based boxes. How can they sell said systems if
- they aren't standard UNIX? What about all those Sun-3's out there, do they
- suddenly become useless to everybody?
-
- You should also check out AT&T's side of the story, which is different
- than Sun's. As far as they are concerned, there will be a binary standard
- for UNIX for every type of processor. Thus, there will be a SPARC ABI,
- but it will be just one out of the collection, including 386 ABI
- (signed with Microsoft just last year), 68K ABI (signed with Motorola
- very recently) and others on the way.
-
- Sun would like to be the IBM of the workstation industry. Backward technology,
- marketing hype, trashing competitors and the like. AT&T doesn't even claim
- that SPARC is state-of-the-art, or best performance anymore either. Just
- that it is standard (Remember, what an "open standard" is by the new rules:
- I design something I like, publish barely enough information for somebody
- else to >expensively< duplicate it, and proclaim it a standard. I don't
- need your concurrence or opinions, nor do I wan't them. After all, you
- might have a better idea ...).
-
- Finally, think about a sales organization that would send their salepeople
- out with such a story. You are obviously concerned by it, and see the
- flaws. They trash their own current and future sales of 386 and 68K boxes
- to scare you into buying SPARC boxes.
-
- Would you buy a computer from these people?
-
- [ Ok, folks: this is a technical newsgroup, for technical discussions.
- It's hard to talk about standards without talking about politics, but
- let's try to avoid casting aspersions on companies or people. -mod ]
-
- -- Jim Barton
- Silicon Graphics Computing Systems "UNIX: Live Free Or Die!"
- jmb@sgi.sgi.com, sgi!jmb@decwrl.dec.com, ...{decwrl,sun}!sgi!jmb
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-
- Volume-Number: Volume 13, Number 37
-
-