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- From: mtsbb!lav@ihnp4.UUCP (Lee Vallone)
- Date: Mon, 7 Apr 86 13:13:48 cst
- Subject: mod.std.unix
-
- I was reading mod.std.unix for the first time and would appreciate
- if you could clarify some things for me.
-
- 1) What is the aim of P1003? What is P1003.
-
- [ It's often called the UNIX Standards Committee, but its real name is
- IEEE 1003 Portable Operating System for Computer Environments Committee.
- (I've finally remembered to update the Organization line from the former
- name of Portable Operating Systems Environment Committee.)
- It's a descendent of the /usr/group Standards Committee that
- produced the /usr/group Standard, which is based on System III.
- Many of the same people are on the IEEE 1003 committee.
-
- According to the Foreword of the current P1003 document:
-
- The purpose of this document is to define a standard
- operating system interface and environment based on the
- UNIX Operating System documentation to support application
- portability at the source level. This is intended for
- systems implementors and applications software developers.
-
- The Abstract adds:
-
- This interface is a complement to the C Programming Language
- in the C Information Bulletin prepared by Technical Committee X3J11
- of the Accredited Standards Committee X3, Information Processing
- Systems, further specifying an environment for portable application
- software.
-
- P1003 Draft 7 has just been approved as the 1003.1 Trial Use Standard.
- (1003.2 will be used to denote the shell/tools document.)
- Published copies will be available in mid-April at $19.95,
- with bulk purchasing discounts available. Contact:
-
- IEEE Service Center
- 445 Hoes Ln.
- Piscataway, NJ 08854
-
- Ask for 1003.1 Standard - stock number SH10546.
-
- The Trial Use Standard will be available for comments for a period
- such as a year, after which a Full Use Standard will be produced.
-
- There is a paper mailing list by which interested parties may get
- copies of drafts of the standard. To get on it, or to submit comments
- directly to the committee, mail to:
-
- James Isaak
- Chairperson, IEEE/CS P1003
- Charles River Data Systems
- 983 Concord St.
- Framingham, MA 01701
- decvax!frog!jim
-
- Sufficiently interested parties may join the working group.
- The next scheduled meetings of the working group of the committee are
-
- 15-18 April Florence, Italy (the week before EUUG)
- 9-11 June Atlanta, Georgia (the week of USENIX)
- ? September Palo Alto, California?
- ? February 1987 Washington, D.C. (the week of USENIX)
-
- There is also a balloting group (which intersects with the working group).
- This is more difficult. Contact the committee chair for details.
- I will repost them in this newsgroup if there is sufficient interest.
- -mod ]
-
- Is this supposed to be a new standard that is
- not equivalent to either BSD4.x or SYS V?
-
- [ Yes and no. It is not precisely the same as any existing system,
- but it has been carefully designed to not outlaw any major variant,
- including not only System V and 4.2BSD, but also hosted systems,
- networked systems, etc. Representatives of major vendors of both
- System V and 4.2BSD are on the committee. -mod ]
-
- Or is it enhancements that would be recommended to the
- developers of both of the above?
-
- [ Not precisely. There are very few innovations in the standard,
- because it is intended to be a standard. However, some facilities
- will have to be implemented differently on top of existing systems'
- facilities to meet the standard. -mod ]
-
- 2) I would like to keep up with future UNIX enhancements
- (specifically SYS V). One article in mod.std.unix made
- reference to:
- - a USENIX newsletter - ;login
-
- [ ;login: The USENIX Association Newsletter is sent free of
- charge to all members of the Association. Their address is
- USENIX Association
- P.O. Box 7
- El Cerrito, CA 94530
- (415) 528-8649
- {ucbvax,decvax}!usenix!office
-
- Volume 10, Number 4, October/November 1985 has my article on IEEE 1003.
-
- I am the Institutional Delegate from the USENIX Association to IEEE 1003.
-
- -mod ]
-
- - a magazine? called UNIX Review
-
- [ The two main general circulation magazines about the UNIX system are
-
- UNIX REVIEW UNIX/WORLD
- Miller Freeman Publications Co. Tech Valley Publishing
- 500 Howard Street 444 Castro St.
- San Francisco, CA 94105 Mountain View, CA 94041
- (415) 397-1881 (415) 940-1500
-
- It is my personal opinion that the one on the left is more technical. -mod ]
-
- Who do I contact to get on the mailing list or subscribe to
- the above?
-
- [ Some documents frequently referred to by the 1003 committee:
-
- X/OPEN PORTABILITY GUIDE (The Green Book).
-
- X/OPEN is "A Group of European Computer Manufacturers" who have produced
- a document intended to promote the writing of portable facilities.
- Their flyer remarks (in five languages), "Now we all speak the same
- language in Europe."
-
- The book is published by
-
- Elsevier Science Publishers
- Book Order Department
- PO Box 211
- 1000 AE Amsterdam
- The Netherlands
-
- or, for those in the U.S.A. or Canada:
-
- Elsevier Science Publishers Co Inc.
- PO Box 1663
- Grand Central Station
- New York, NY 10163
-
- The price is Dfl 275,00 or USD 75.00. According to the order form,
- "This price includes the costs of one update which will be mailed
- automatically upon publication." They take a large number of credit
- cards and other forms of payment.
-
-
- The System V Interface Definition (The Purple Book)
-
- To purchase the System V Interface Definition, write to:
-
- System V Interface Definition
- Select Code 307-127
- AT&T Customer Information Center
- 2833 North Franklin Road
- Indianapolis, IN 46219
-
- Be sure to include the address the document should be shipped to
- and a check or money order made payable to AT&T.
-
- or call
-
- 1-800-432-6600
-
- and ask for operator 77. Give the operator the Select Code
- 307-127. (You must have a major credit card to order by phone.)
-
- The price is about thirty U.S. dollars.
-
-
- The /usr/group Standard:
-
- /usr/group Standards Committee
- 4655 Old Ironsides Drive, Suite 200
- Santa Clara, California 95050
-
- It was $15.00 as of January, 1985.
-
-
- X3J11 (C Standards Committee):
-
- Thomas Plum
- Vice Chair, ANSI X3J11 Committee
- Plum Hall Inc.
- 1 Spruce Avenue
- Cardiff, New Jersey 08232
-
- -mod ]
-
- Thanks in advance
-
- [ No problem. If anyone wants other information, let me know. -mod ]
-
- Lee Vallone
-
- {ihnp4, mtuxo}!mtsbb!lav
-
- Volume-Number: Volume 6, Number 11
-
-