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- 25-Jan-86 08:16:06-EST,491;000000000001
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- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 86 8:15:03 EST
- From: Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@BRL.ARPA>
- To: telecom.mit-mc@BRL-AOS.ARPA
- cc: cmoore@BRL.ARPA
- Subject: Re: Named Exchanges
-
- Could not send to swenson:
-
- LAndscape 5 is a THREE-character exchange?
- 25-Jan-86 08:26:23-EST,749;000000000001
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- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 86 8:20:34 EST
- From: Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@BRL.ARPA>
- To: telecom.mit-mc@BRL-AOS.ARPA
- cc: cmoore@BRL.ARPA
- Subject: exchange names using 2 words
-
- There is also CHestnut Hill in Philadelphia, MUrray Hill in Manhattan,
- WHite Plains and MOunt Vernon in Westchester County (NY), and someone
- has mentioned MUrray Hill in Murray Hill, NJ (location of Bell Labs).
- I have seen ATlantic City (NJ) but this does not correspond to the
- dial prefixes I now see in the 609 area.
- 25-Jan-86 12:51:33-EST,615;000000000001
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- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 86 12:56:21 EST
- From: "Keith F. Lynch" <KFL@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU>
- Subject: Named Exchanges
- To: MYERSTON@SRI-KL.ARPA
- cc: KFL@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU, Telecom@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU
- Message-ID: <[MC.LCS.MIT.EDU].795949.860125.KFL>
-
- From: HECTOR MYERSTON <MYERSTON@SRI-KL.ARPA>
-
- How about the non-exchange, non-dialable, ZEnith X-XXXX numbers?.
- These were pre 800 800 numbers. "Call you local operator and ask for
- ZEnithX-XXXX, no cost to calling party".
-
- Huh? There is no "Z" on the dial.
- ...Keith25-Jan-86 18:27:28-EST,352;000000000001
- Date: Sat 25 Jan 86 15:24:18-PST
- From: Doug <Faunt%HP-THOR@hplabs.arpa>
- Subject: numbers to exchange names, now.
- To: Telecom%xx.lcs.mit.edu%CSNET-RELAY@hplabs.arpa
-
- I'm not bored yet.
- My exchange in Oakland CA is 655-. Does anyone know if it was a
- "named" exchange. My friends have 547- in Oakland, also. Same
- question. Thanks.
-
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- 27-Jan-86 08:35:28-EST,267;000000000001
- From: hplabs!tektronix!athena!dalel@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- To: telecom@teklds.tek
- Subject: Trivial Query
- Date: 25 Jan 86 18:16:09 PST (Sat)
-
-
- This could get interesting. How many people remember those names?
- --
- Dale Lehmann
- Tektronix, Inc.
- Beaverton, Oregon
-
- 30-Jan-86 15:45:37-EST,3627;000000000000
- Date: Thu, 30 Jan 86 14:26:02 CST
- From: Will Martin -- AMXAL-RI <wmartin@ALMSA-1.ARPA>
- To: telecom@MIT-XX.ARPA
- Subject: Prefix names
-
- Well, I could try relying on memory, and I'm sure I would provide some
- wrong or otherwise worthless info, so I went to the source. I went to the
- St. Louis public library and asked for a telephone book from the early 50's.
- (It took them a couple tries to find one with the front pages, with the
- dialling instructions and suchlike, intact enough to read -- it's interesting
- how frangible a telephone book gets in only 35 years... :-)
-
- Anyway, here is some "official" info on named exchanges in the St. Louis, MO
- area in 1953:
-
- Exchanges in the St. Louis City area:
-
- CAbany GEneva MUlberry
- CEntral GOodfellow NEwstead
- CHestnut GRand OLive
- COlfax HIland PArkview
- CUmberland HUdson PLateau
- DElmar JEfferson PRospect
- EVergreen LAclede ROsedale
- FIreside LOckhart SIdney
- FLanders LUcas STerling
- FOrest MAin SWeetbriar
- FRanklin MIssion VErnon 2
- GArfield MOhawk VOlunteer 3
-
- Some of these equate to street names, but others are sort of
- off-the-wall.
-
- While I didn't copy all the suburban area exchange lists, I copied one.
- Note this interesting difference between the names. Some have
- capitalized two-letter beginnings, while others do not. Maybe the
- ones with no capital-letter-pairs cannot be direct-dialed, and had
- to be asked for through an operator? (I dunno; just a guess...)
-
- Atwater
- Northland
- TEmple 7
- UNderhill 7
- University 4
- VIctor 7-8
- Vulcan 6
-
- Here's something interesting: on the cover of the suburban directory for
- 1953 is a table of prefix changes, that were scheduled to go into effect
- at 12:01 AM December 6, 1953. (My birthday! How nice! I don't think I
- knew about it, being 8 at the time...:-)
-
- ATwater to VIctor 7
- AXminster to WYdown 2 or 7
- DIxon to VIctor 3
- FEnton to DAvis 6
- KIrkwood to TAylor 1 or 2
- LAke to LEhigh 6
- POnd to CRestview 3
- REpublic to WOodland 1 or 2
- TErryhill to YOrktown 5
- TUlane 4 to WOodland 1 or 2
- WAbash to WAbash 2
- WEbster to WOodland 1 or 2
- WIllow 2 to ESsex 5
- WIllow 3 to BUtler 5
- WIllow 4 to ESsex 6
- WIllow 5 to ATlas 7
- WIllow 7 to JUstice 7
- WInfield to WInfield 6
- WYdown to WYdown 1
-
- Again, some of these are the names of streets or communities, but others
- are arbitrary words with no particular local references that come to
- mind (there might BE real local references, but mayhap they are in areas
- I am unfamiliar with and don't recognize).
-
- Anyway, it was interesting looking at that old phonebook. I looked up my
- own old number and it wasn't anything like what I remembered! (I had
- thought it was a GRand but it was a LAclede; maybe it changed later,
- before it changed to a PRospect, which number my mother has retained to this
- day [address unchanged during this].) Found various relatives' listings, etc.
-
- So what does this prove? Not a heck of a lot, but I think we can
- generalize and say that phone-number-word-prefixes were a mixture of
- nationwide arbitrary words (FIreside, EVergreen, WIllow) and local
- specific street or community names (DElmar, CAbany, KIrkwood). If
- someone can get access to telco historical files, maybe they can find a
- "master list" of prefix names to use nationwide when there was no
- appropriate local name to use instead?
-
- Well, if your time machine zaps you back to St. Louis in the '50's, at
- least you'll find the phone numbers familiar... Look me up and give me
- some copies of the Wall Street Journal for the following decades, please...
-
- Regards, Will Martin
-
- 3-Apr-86 11:43:49-EST,1407;000000000001
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- Date: 3 Apr 86 11:37 EST
- From: Denber.wbst@Xerox.COM
- Subject: Numbering Plans Revisited
- To: Telecom@XX.LCS.MIT.EDU
- Message-ID: <860403-083839-1247@Xerox>
-
- There was some discussion of telephone numbering plans on this list last
- fall. I ran across an interesting article yesterday on national
- numbering plans in the Bell System Technical Journal from Sept. 1952 by
- W.H. Nunn, which you may find of interest. A short excerpt (p. 854):
-
- Table I - Different Types of Numbering Plans
-
- Place Directory Listing Referred to as
-
- Philadelphia, Pa. LOcust 4-5678 Two-five
- Los Angeles, Cal. PArkway 2345 and Combined two-four
- REpublic 2-3456 and two-five
- Indianapolis, Ind. MArket 6789 Two-four
- El Paso, Texas PRospect 2-3456 Combined two-five
- and 5-5678 and five digit
- San Diego, Cal. Franklin 9-2345 One letter, four and
- Franklin 6789 five digit
- Des Moines, Iowa 4-1234 and Combined five and
- 62-2345 six digit
- Binghamton, N.Y. 2-5678 Five digit
- Manchester, Conn. 5678 and 2-2345 Combined four and
- five digit
- Winchester, Va. 3456 Four digit
- Ayer, Mass. 629 and 2345 Combined three and
- four digit
- Jamesport, N.Y. 325 Three-digit
-
- - Michel
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