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H#: 45447 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 09:04:14 Sb: #Compiler out of memory Fm: Mason Landstreet 71220,1547 To: Mike Burns 71551,1353 (X) No. These things don't necessarily help. I do have a few very large programs that I was having to strip my system back for in TB. PB will compile with everything stripped back but linking will get you every time. Mason There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45512 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 16:41:32 Sb: #45447-#Compiler out of memory Fm: Mike Burns 71551,1353 To: Mason Landstreet 71220,1547 (X) Mason, If you have an ega/vga monitor, there is a tsr in the library that will get you some additional space for compiling. It is called pbplus.zip (I think). I think Bob or Barry left some other suggestions for you to try. The one that sounded the most promising was having main file that had only Includes and links. Also, if your problem is linking, have you tried making sure you have emulate (instead of procedure) math libs being linked in, tried turning off some of the standard libs ($LIB COM OFF, etc. pg 40 in reference manual for other libs). I'm still guessing. Mike There are 2 Replies. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45618 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 15-May-90 06:21:05 Sb: #45512-#Compiler out of memory Fm: Bob Zale: PowerBASIC R&D 76304,1303 To: Mike Burns 71551,1353 (X) Mason/Mike-- Check the file PBNEWS in the library. It has a list of a number of suggestions which will really help. Of course, if you add EMS and use PBPLUS, you'll increase available memory by 160k. That can increase your capacity by 100%, 200%, maybe even more. Bob Zale (PowerBASIC R&D) There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45661 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 15-May-90 08:16:19 Sb: #45618-Compiler out of memory Fm: Mason Landstreet 71220,1547 To: Bob Zale: PowerBASIC R&D 76304,1303 (X) Thanks Bob, I'll try it. Mason Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45645 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 15-May-90 07:22:30 Sb: #45512-#Compiler out of memory Fm: Mason Landstreet 71220,1547 To: Mike Burns 71551,1353 (X) I had all of the libs off that weren't essential. The printer one was the only one I left on. I was not using emulation or procedural math either one (I do not consider a coprocessor an option, there is one on every machine in hte building). I assumed that inline 80x87 code would be smaller than either library. Will the VGA RAM grabber interfere with QEMM/5.0? Does it preclude the use of graphics in a program or is it only used in compile? Does it preclude the use of 43/50 line mode in the editor? Thanks...........................................Mason There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45866 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 16-May-90 05:40:02 Sb: #45645-Compiler out of memory Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: Mason Landstreet 71220,1547 Mason, I do not know about qemms but the PBPLUS96 will not allow you to use 43 lines from within the IDE. If you want 43 lines in there, only run PBPLUS96 for the command line compiler, and work with PB as is in the ide. 80x87 only will be smaller as the library does not need to include anything to emulate it in software. Of course, it will only run on machines equiped with 80x87's from then on. Back to PBPlus96. You do not need to use it with the ide as it is not a patch, but a tsr. This means while in the ide, you can use the ide just as you now do, and then run pbplus and pb or pbc from a batch file as outlined in the docs for pbplus for the compile. If you must run graphics in the ide with pbplus... you will not be able to. You must decrease (if necessary) the size of the module with graphics for debugging and run that without pbplus and then test the rest of your code with debugging, finally bringing it all together with pb, pbc with or without pbplus. If your applications are mostly graphic, then pbplus in the ide will not help you. --- Barry Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45047 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 12-May-90 05:33:26 Sb: #DBLOW.BOX TROUBLE Fm: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 To: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 (X) BARRY I KNOW I MUST SOUND DUMB BUT CAN YOU SUGGEST A METHOD TO FIND THE LITTLE SUCKER THANKS There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45054 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 12-May-90 06:13:23 Sb: #45047-#DBLOW.BOX TROUBLE Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 (X) Doug, No, you do not sound dumb. To find the Duplicate Def variable, use the CTRL Q F using the variable pointed out. For Example... if the variable is FooBar, you would search everywhere for this.. in SUB names, Function names, Varables, etc. The duplicate will be in the source code prior to the point the error occurs, since the first passs can get it. You Can't have a variable FooBAR% and a sub SUB FooBar or a Function FooBar% <--- how can we tell this ffom the variable? or a Def Fn FNFooBar% The Function is the reason for this rule. The rules are you can't have any variable with the same name as a Sub, Function, or DEF FN. This is mainly a problem when converting from a TB program to a PB program, and then it is usually only a problem at first. Once you get the hang of it, the finding of these conflict areas is reletively easy. There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45234 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 05:11:45 Sb: #45054-#DBLOW.BOX TROUBLE Fm: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 To: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 (X) BARRY I HAVE USED THE <Q>UICK FUNCTION TO LOCATE EVERY OCCURANCE OF -GetRecTHE ONLY THING THAT SHOWS UP ARE CALLS TO GetRec I USE TWO INCLUDE FILES DBLOW.BOX & PD200D.INC OF COURSE I CANNOT SEE THE CODE IN THE WINDOW FILE I WILL BE GLAD TO SEND THE CODE TO YOU IF YOU LIKE. There are 4 Replies. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45235 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 06:11:24 Sb: #45234-DBLOW.BOX TROUBLE Fm: Rick Fothergill 76210,443 To: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 (X) Doug, There is a SUB called Getrec in PW200 that may be conflicting with a SUB of the same name in the toolbox. Rick... Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45238 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 06:31:01 Sb: #45234-DBLOW.BOX TROUBLE Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 (X) Doug, Upload this and mark it Private for myself and Bob. It will not be posted and I'll be able to get it. You did apply the fixes from DBFIX.ZIP in Lib 12, didn't you? --- Barry Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45244 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 07:22:54 Sb: #45234-DBLOW.BOX TROUBLE Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 (X) Doug, If it is the problem with the same sub name, then you have two choices: 1.. change the name of the GetRec source in the toolbox uisng the ^Q A to GetRec1 or something.. or Edit the PW200D file with a utility tool to GetRFE or something of the same length. Your best bet, though, I would think, would be to rename the subs you have direct access to. --- Barry Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45245 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 07:31:42 Sb: #45234-DBLOW.BOX TROUBLE Fm: Mike Burns 71551,1353 To: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 (X) Doug, I can sympathize with your problem. One of the most frustrating things about this error is that PB "ought" to be able to tell me what the name is that is causing the problem. Maybe next version will correct the error. The simplest way I found to track the error was to do the following steps. Do all this in a test directory ... Not in a live directory. 1) Copy all the code to the test directory (including .pbu, .inc's, etc.) 2) Eliminate all program code except the $link statements if any, and the required $includes. Compile to memeory. If the problem occurs now, you have identified a problem in the .pbu files. Try different combinations until you can narrow down which ones have a conflict. Sometimes you can see the duplicate names in the Include stmts. 3) If the problem doesn't occur in number 2, then add you code in a little a time until it does occur. Be careful to add sections that can compile correctly and are self-contained. As soon as the error occurs, you can identify the name causing the problem. Good Luck. Mike Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45048 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 12-May-90 05:37:04 Sb: #Match Pair Fm: Eric Pearson 71641,717 To: Sysop (X) Just out of curiosity, what is "Match Pair"? PBINSTALL lets you define keys for this editor function, but I can't find it in the docs and it doesn't seem to do anything in the IDE. -- Eric P. There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45055 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 12-May-90 06:13:28 Sb: #45048-#Match Pair Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: Eric Pearson 71641,717 (X) Good question, Eric. I have never done anything with the install utility other than look at it. We'll have to let Bob let us in on this one. --- Barry There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45313 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 15:56:41 Sb: #45055-#Match Pair Fm: Kurt Inman (PowerBASIC) 71141,2330 To: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 (X) Eric, The "match pair" commands take you from an open parenthesis to its corresponding closing parenthesis, and vice versa. It also works for brackets and braces. To use this feature, the cursor must be located upon an open or close parenthesis, bracket, or brace. When you hit the "match pair" key combination, the cursor then locates itself upon the matching close or open parenthesis, bracket, or brace. It looks like we accidently left the description of this feature out of the manual -- sorry! Kurt Inman (PowerBASIC R&D) There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45314 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 15:58:42 Sb: #45313-Match Pair Fm: Kurt Inman (PowerBASIC) 71141,2330 To: Kurt Inman (PowerBASIC) 71141,2330 (X) Oops, my message was supposed to be addressed to Eric Pearson, not Barry Erick! Oh well, you get the idea... Kurt Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45132 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 12-May-90 12:32:01 Sb: #Out of Memory? Fm: Bob Zale: PowerBASIC R&D 76304,1303 To: ALL Say good-bye to the dreaded Error 406: Compiler Out of Memory. If you have an EGA or VGA video card, PBPLUS96 can be used with PowerBASIC to "steal" 96k of memory from the card, to be used during compilation, running, or debugging in the PowerBASIC environment. Depending upon your personal programming style, this extra 96k of memory may increase your program size capacity by 35-120%. Of course there are some limitations. It steals video memory from A000 to B7FF, so you can't execute graphics programs while using it. But for .EXE compilation, or text mode debugging, it offers unmatched capacity. Best of all, it's free to all licensed users of PowerBASIC. Just download PBPLUS96.ZIP from our library. It's ready now! Bob Zale (PowerBASIC R&D) There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45216 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 12-May-90 23:37:09 Sb: #45132-#Out of Memory? Fm: John Watts 73760,751 To: Bob Zale: PowerBASIC R&D 76304,1303 (X) Thanks Bob, As soon as I saw your message that PBPLUS96 was ready, I downloaded it. After POPDROPing TSR's and PCPLUS96 ON, I was able to compile and run Barry's PBWINDOW.BAS from within the IDE. JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED ! Would it be possible to have PB.EXE ( 3.0, 4.0 etc ) load in EMS ( 2nd Meg ) and compile and run in the base 640k from the IDE? Just a thought .... ( Wheels, Gears, Crunch, Crash ). Thanks again for PBPLUS96. John There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45237 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 06:30:56 Sb: #45216-Out of Memory? Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: John Watts 73760,751 (X) That was one thing I could do before.. but just.... I did test the pbplus96 on a program at work I am developing, and it saved the day.. I loved it from the start.. and between ems and aga/vga .. this is great! Bob has really come up with something great this time.... Also, on the window program, I have a new upload that does not have a change in the program... only in the docs to reflect asp membership. Also, the readme file with it shows one thing that registered users will get, and that is smaller versions of the windows.. if you do not need all features, then they are gone. The zoom and menu's take much space. Again, I second your kado's to Bob. --- Barry Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45253 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 09:15:01 Sb: #PowerBasic and COM3: Fm: Gregory P. Ennis 76615,2456 To: Bob Zale Dear Bob, Do you have any plans to allow the use of COM3: and COM4: in PowerBasic. We have ordered our copy of PB from your firm and are waiting to receive it. Respectfully, Greg Ennis There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45312 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 15:39:30 Sb: #45253-PowerBasic and COM3: Fm: Bob Zale: PowerBASIC R&D 76304,1303 To: Gregory P. Ennis 76615,2456 Thanks for your inquiry, Greg. As you probably know, PowerBASIC supports COM1 and COM2 now. We have had a number of requests to extend it to 3 & 4 also, so it is high on our list for the next version. I'm not in a position to "guarantee" it today, but I think it's quite likely. We'll be looking at it very closely real soon now, so I'm very hopeful we won't find anything to prevent including it. Bob Zale (PowerBASIC R&D) Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45339 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 13-May-90 18:30:53 Sb: Twin upgrades Fm: Robert N. Barrett 76530,1452 To: 76304,1303 (X) Bob, I'm pretty sure that you're not the person I need to talk to about this, but I have no idea who else to talk to. Just before I went on vacation last week I received a second copy of Power BASIC. When I got back from my trip, my Visa bill came in with guess what - yep, two upgrade charges. I'll make a deal with you. I'll send the unopened second copy back if Spectra will credit my Visa. Sound fair? Robert Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45400 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 05:03:41 Sb: #PARAMETER MISMATCH Fm: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 To: 75300,214 (X) BARRY I AM GETTING PARAMETER MISMATCH IN THIS STATEMENT CALL PutRec(RES.File,DataRef&):LOCATE RO%,CO%:COLOR O,7:IF X%=CVI(NR$) THEN PRINT X$;:COLOR 7,0 AND THE CURSOR IS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LINE. CAN YOU HELP WITH THIS There are 2 Replies. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45414 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 06:12:44 Sb: #45400-PARAMETER MISMATCH Fm: Mike Burns 71551,1353 To: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 (X) Doug, The error means that you are passing the wrong type or number of parameters to PutRec. In this case it means the wrong type. PutRec expects the file number (RES.File) to be an Integer. You can probably insert a DEFINT A-Z near the top of you program to fix the the problem, or change RES.File to RES.File% everywhere it is used in your program. Mike Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45501 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 16:04:07 Sb: #45400-PARAMETER MISMATCH Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 (X) Same as what Mike said. If you do not have the Defint-a-z in your program before an include that has it, this will be looked at as a Single Precision, and not an Integer. It is always safest to mark the variables... PutRec(Res.File%,DataRef&) .. etc ---- Barry Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45415 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 06:12:53 Sb: fixdigits Fm: Mike Burns 71551,1353 To: [F] Spectra Support 75300,214 (X) Sysop, Here is my vote for the way I would like fixdigits to work. Where I live (Houston, sort of) we used to have a sales tax at 6 and 1/8th %. That requires 3 decimal places. To use it with a two decimal place amount would require being able to set the required number of digits by each variable. Some would be 2 digits, some would be three. Other type of problems which may require different levels of precision, would be chemical mixing formulas, financial analysis and rates of return, which may all be used in one program. So, I guess I would like to be able to specify the precision for each bcd variable. Maybe it could default to 2 and let override the default with a DEFBCDPRECISION I-K,4 stmt. All BCD variables from I to K have 4 digits. Thanks. Mike Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45424 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 07:16:10 Sb: PARAMETER MISMATCH Fm: DOUG MILLER 73757,1300 To: 71551,1353 (X) MIKE I AM USING THE EXACT CODE THAT I USE IN TB. I USE WINDOWS & DBLOW.BOX IN MY PROGRAMS AND I AM VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING THE CHANGE BUT GET IN A POSITION TO JUST SPEND MORE TIME FOR THINGS THAT DON'T SEEM TO BE AS SIMPLE AS THEY SHOULD BE. I CAN TRY YOUR SUGGESTION BUT ON ANY DATABASE INITIALIZATION THE STATEMENT DEFINT A-Z IS IN THE CODE AT THE FIRST OF EVERY PROGRAM THANKS FOR YOUR HELP -- DOUG Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45499 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 15:56:28 Sb: #Twin updates Fm: Tim McFarland 71530,2640 To: 76530,1452 (X) Robert, Sorry for the dual packages. Just send the second package back and we'll take care of it. Tim. There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45612 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 15-May-90 05:23:27 Sb: #45499-Twin updates Fm: Robert N. Barrett 76530,1452 To: Tim McFarland 71530,2640 (X) Thanks, Tim. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45522 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 17:40:48 Sb: #PBPLUS96 Fm: AL MUSELLA 76114,637 To: BOB ZALE TO: Bob Zale FROM: Al Musella Re: PBPLUS96 Bob, I downloaded PBPLUS96 yesterday and couldn't get it to work for me. I have an Osicom Executive 286 computer with 640K RAM, no extended or expanded memory. The Western Digital motherboard has a built in Paradise EGA with 256K memory. When I try: PBPLUS96 ON, I get an error message saying that the memory is not available. I tried setting the bios video mode to 3, and I booted from a "clean" DOS 3.3 floppy - no TSRs. PCTOOLS says that I have the memory available and that nothing is using interupt 10h. Do you have any suggestions on how I can get it to work? Al There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45541 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 18:34:26 Sb: #45522-#PBPLUS96 Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: AL MUSELLA 76114,637 (X) That should work as the EGA card is the same card I use. I know it works with several ega's and vga's, as i did try it on 5 different machines myself. I do have a osicom machine available for testing, but it only has cga on it, so I can't test pbplus96. Since there are several memory error messages in the program, what is the exact error you get? --- Barry There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45646 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 15-May-90 07:24:20 Sb: #45541-#PBPLUS96 Fm: AL MUSELLA 76114,637 To: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 (X) Barry, The error message that I get is: Requested memory is not available, but EGA/VGA memory has been modified You may wish to reboot in order to insure that all memory is restored to it's original state. I tried disconnecting my mouse, printer and modem - but I kept getting this same error message. Al There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45867 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 16-May-90 05:40:09 Sb: #45646-#PBPLUS96 Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: AL MUSELLA 76114,637 (X) Bob should be able to answer from that. It looks to me that the ega board is not telling pbplus the correct amount of memory available, or it is already in a graphics mode... Are you enterring from a 43 line mode by any chance? Dos's mode co80 43 does not interfer with pbplus, but anything that really works right to get to the 43 line mode would. --- Barry There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45871 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 16-May-90 06:08:35 Sb: #45867-#PBPLUS96 Fm: AL MUSELLA 76114,637 To: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 (X) Barry, I am sure that I am in the correct video mode. Also, the EGA card must be reporting the correct amount of memory to PCTOOLS and NORTON's UTILITY. Al There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45923 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 16-May-90 08:51:21 Sb: #45871-#PBPLUS96 Fm: Bob Zale: PowerBASIC R&D 76304,1303 To: AL MUSELLA 76114,637 (X) Thanks a strange one, Al. From the error message, what's happening is: We've completed all necessary changes to card, built memory blocks, etc., and when we're all done with everything, we try to write and read two bytes at B000 and B7FF (I think), and we find no memory present. Something prevented the change of mode on your video card, or there isn't enough memory installed on it, or ?? I'm going to try to get some doc on that card and see what I can find. Anything unusual about your configuration that might help? Bob There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45953 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 16-May-90 11:33:27 Sb: #45923-#PBPLUS96 Fm: AL MUSELLA 76114,637 To: Bob Zale: PowerBASIC R&D 76304,1303 (X) Bob, I tried using PEEK & POKE to read and write address B000:0000 and B7FF:0000. I could read from them (all FFFF), but I couldn't write to them - no error messages, but when I reread them, they weren't changed. I checked Norton's Utility again and found something interesting. It reported that I have 256K-byte EGA, but also reported that a search for active memory finds: 640K Main memory at hex 0000-A000 32K display memory at hex B800-C000 What happened to the extra 224K of memory? PCTOOLS also reports 256K EGA memory. Maybe I don't have the memory at B000 - B7FF. Is there any way to find out how much memory there is, and where it is? Maybe the EGA is just reporting 256K and only has 32K? Al There is 1 Reply. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45997 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 16-May-90 15:02:50 Sb: #45953-PBPLUS96 Fm: Barry Erick for Spectra 75300,214 To: AL MUSELLA 76114,637 Al, Using Nortons SI, it will show 640k and 32k display. That is the current configuration and is normal. What does the Video Display Attachement show? It should show EGA and 256k at that spot.... --- Barry Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! H#: 45552 S12/SPECTRA Publishing 14-May-90 19:50:28 Sb: RBBS-PC under PB Fm: John R. Spikowski 76050,1422 To: John Watts 73760,751 (X) I had to break up all the code into smaller modules to work on and I am working on building the SUB's into UNITS. It should be done and working in about a month (it's kind of a back burner project). I'm using the QB version under VM386 /Multi-User and it works great. I'll let the board know when the PB version is working. Press <CR> for next or type CHOICES ! HPC Vendor B ForumHSections Menu Section names (#subjs/# msgs) 1 Quarterdeck (106/264) 3 Korenthal Assocs. (4/24) 4 Personics Corp. (25/132) 5 Quicksoft (5/8) 6 TurboPower Software (36/170) 7 ChipSoft, Inc. (2/3) 8 DacEasy (17/42) 9 Vestronix (2/2) 10 J.P. Software (26/151) 11 PDC Prolog (11/32) 12 SPECTRA Publishing (12/39) HEnter choice(s) or ALL !