Telecom/1996-04-telecom-walnutcreek.iso/carriers/10xxx.notes.updates

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From: Martin J Shannon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: How To Dial an OCC: 10xxx List
Date: 24 Jan 90 00:05:05 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail] (martin.j.shannon,59112,lc,4nr10,201 580 5757)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (TELECOM
Moderator) posted the 10xxx table, and made the request:

>If you spot any corrections or updates, please send them along.

Ok, NJBell offers a service from portions of area code 201 to most
(all?)  of the NYC 212 and 718 area codes (and perhaps portions of
914).  In the interests of completeness (since from my phone the equal
access code gets to the NJBell service), 652 (NJB) should be added to
the list.

Are there other OCs that offer similar plans using an equal access
code?  How many of these were in the list just posted?


Marty Shannon; AT&T Bell Labs; Liberty Corner, NJ, USA
(Affiliation is given for identification only:
I don't speak for them; they don't speak for me.)

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From: John Cowan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: How To Dial an OCC: 10xxx List
Reply-To: John Cowan <[e-mail]>
Organization: ESCC,  New York City
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 90 19:25:53 GMT


Correction to the 10XXX list (moderator, you might want to fix the archive
copy):

488 is now assigned to Metromedia<>ITT, which is a subsidiary of Metromedia
Inc., using the ITT name under license.  Basically, ITT sold USTS to Metro-
media.

[Moderator's Note: This change, plus the one mentioned above will be
edited into the archives copy, along with others which may arrive.  PT]

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From: David Tamkin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: How To Dial an OCC: 10xxx List
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 90 17:57:51 CST


David Lewis wrote in TELECOM Digest, Volume 10, Issue 44:

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Otto Miller)
writes:

| > I understand the concept of 10xxx dialling to get to other carriers,
| > *BUT* don't you need an account with the carrier to do this?

| Nope.  10XXX is for "casual" use.  [explanation of how 10XXX calls are
| billed in care of the LEC followed]

More like "yup and nope" than a flat "nope".  The local telco doesn't
need to know which IC's a subscriber has accounts with except for the
primary carrier (to whom the LEC routes 1+ dialing).  But the
long-distance carriers themselves are not compelled to complete a
10XXX call originating from a telephone number not in their customer
databases; if you are not already their customer in some way or
another, they might not place the call for you once the local company
has passed it to them.

You don't have to have them as your primary carrier as well; some will
open an account for 10XXX use or for calling card and 10XXX only.


David Tamkin  PO Box 813  Rosemont IL 60018-0813  708-518-6769  312-693-0591
[e-mail]    BIX: dattier  GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN  CIS: 73720,1570

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From: [e-mail] (Tad Cook)
Subject: How To Dial an OCC: 10xxx List
Date: 23 Jan 90 06:03:48 GMT
Organization: very little


Otto Miller asked if you need an account with a carrier to use
their 10XXX codes.

No, you don't.  I have experimented with alternate carriers, just to
see how the "sound" of the call compared, and the charge always showed
up eventually on my US West bill.

Actually, I'll take that back...I recall trying one service where a
recording came on asking that I contact the them and the telco to set
up an account, but it doesn't seem to be a requirement of the major
carriers.

I helped a friend in an interesting situation using 10XXX codes.

She is living with several roomates, and they had subscribed to AT&T.
She thought it would be nice to get her own separate phone bill for
her interstate toll charges, rather than hash out the calls at the end
of every month.

I told her to call Sprint, give them the phone number, and set up an
account in her name.  Then whenever she called out of the state (I
didn't try to explain LATAs to her!) she would dial 10333 before
dialing 1+ the number.  There was no need to notify the local telco,
as they were not requesting Sprint as their default carrier of choice.
This has worked very well for her, and she likes the sound quality on
the Sprint network.


Tad Cook
[e-mail]

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From [e-mail] Sat Jan 27 21:42:21 1990
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Subject: Re: How To Dial an OCC: 10xxx List
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Cc:
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 90 20:43:01 CST
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In article <[e-mail]> you write:
>X-Administrivia-To: [e-mail]
>X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 55, message 7 of 9
>
>
>Just as a test, I called C7P Telephone here in Richmond to see what
>info they could/would provide.  I called the residential
>customer-service number in the phone book, and asked which long
>distance companies served my home.  The rep. asked for my phone
>number, and after a couple of minutes, gave me the list of six
>companies.  She gave me no hassle about which ones come before others,
>as others on the net have told about.  The list came in no obvious
>order that I could see.  The rep. was unable (she said) to give me the
>access codes for these carriers, but did have their phone numbers.
>All but one of them is listed in the local white-pages phone book.
>
>In spite of the above success, there is a definite trend towards
>hiding this kind of information from the public.  After a careful
>reading of the new phone book (December 1989), there is only ONE
>SENTENCE about how to make a long-distance call outside the local LATA
>(although they don't use the term LATA).  The one sentence that
>appears in on the page about ordering new service, NOT a section about
>long-distance, because there isn't one!  (Except for two pages showing
>an area code map and area codes for some cities [not the new code in
>New Jersey, though!]).  I'm really getting steamed about this; I may
>write a letter to the local editorial page this weekend.
>
>
>     Bob Langford, Medical College of Virginia
>     [e-mail]
>



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Subject: Re: How To Dial an OCC: 10xxx List
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
Organization: Northwestern U, Evanston IL, USA
Cc:
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 90 20:43:58 CST
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In article <[e-mail]> you write:
>X-Administrivia-To: [e-mail]
>X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 55, message 8 of 9
>
>
>The forenameless <[e-mail]> wrote in Telecom Digest,
>Volume 10, Issue 51:
>
>| Here's a brillant thought.  Why don't the BOC's list all the access
>| codes in the phone book.  In my NJ Bell phone book, it justs states
>| that a list of them is available from NJ Bell!  Considering everything
>| else that's in there (stadium seating charts, etc.) a list of long
>| distance access codes doesn't seem too far out of line.
>
>Here in Chicago, Illinois Bell (a subsidiary of an RBOC as its name
>implies) does not mention 10XXX dialing in its directories at all.
>Central Telephone (an independent) gives a partial list of available
>1+ carriers, with their contact numbers and with the 10XXX codes for
>those who want their 10XXX codes showing.  From the 1987 book to the
>1988 book AT&T, Allnet, and ITT had their codes pulled: the companies
>are still listed, but there are just hyphens where 10288, 10444, or
>10488 would be printed.  Litel pulled its code as of the 1989 book; as
>of 1987 Tri-Tel's code was already unlisted.
>
>
>David Tamkin  PO Box 813  Rosemont IL 60018-0813  708-518-6769  312-693-0591
>[e-mail]    BIX: dattier  GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN  CIS: 73720,1570
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 90 17:12:38 EST
From: John Stanley <nmri!![e-mail]>

 I have an addition to the recent list of 10xxx codes. 10096 belongs to FLEX
Communications in Johnstown, NY.