Transcription: My theory originally was to approach small labels and if we can get a deal to do a 12 inch or an EP or something like that, get a little bit of money and kind of get my shit together before, then go to a big label and say look, I sold this many records and I had a tiny budget, let me put a record out but let me do it. Nowadays I would say go with a major label. I was on an independent and I got fucked. All the disadvantages of a major label with the additional disadvantages of No budgets, no money, no ability to get records in stores. Fuck that, you know?