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- *** PR.SEMINARS.BAY.AREA 1-AUG-81
- PARENT=*ASCII USAGE= 97
- A seminar series on Packet Radio, as it now exists (and where it will
- probably go), will be held by Hank Magnuski, KA6M, who operates the Menlo
- Park packet repeater. He says: "The high level of interest in packet radio
- concepts and technology, plus the need to get some design groups going to work
- on establishing new networking protocols and hardware has prompted me to
- arrange a series of meetings. Anybody interested in helping...or giving a
- presentation please contact me (Hank, 415-854-1927 home)."
-
- Times & Place
-
- Tymnet Training Room, Tymnet, 20665 Valley Green Dr., Cupertino. I-280 to
- DeAnza...go South...Right at Valley Green to 1st 2-story bldg...Enter at East
- end.....All meetings at 8:p0 PM.
-
- 7 July --- VADCG protocol discussion
- 4 August --- problems and issues
- 1 September --- interfacing to packet radio
- 6 October --- AMICON/AMINET
- 3 November --- Gateway/Repeater design
- 1 December --- Advanced hardware
-
- Call Hank 415-854-1927 for more info; Wm. Putney 408-446-7190 for better di-
- rections to meeting if needed.
-
- +++ SUBMESSAGES +++
-
- *** PROBLEMS&ISSUES 5-AUG-81
- PARENT=PR.SEMINARS.BAY.AREA USAGE= 90
- Last night your fairwitness went to the second, of a series of seminars
- that are being held by Hank Magnuski, KA6M, on Packet Radio. (see parent msg)
- My first </++_ deals with the directions. If you are coming from the NORTH
- there is no sign saying DeAnza or Cupertino ----> (this way). So if you are
- coming from the north the turnoff is AFTER hwy85, but BEFORE the Lawrence Exp.
- If you are coming from the SOUTH the directions work fine.
- I was about an hour late for the meeting, so I can't give you a complete
- report, but I met a few users of the Conference Tree there, who might want to
- elaborate a bit more. (Please feel free to addto these branches)
- Upon arriving, the topic of discussion was on how various stations would
- communicate to one another through various methods, including, satellites and
- repeaters, and the various protocols that would allow this communication. The
- basic flow was drawn out as follows:::
- Terminal Node --- Single User Station
- Host Node --- Multi-user Station
- Repeater --- Reproduces Packets
- Station Node --- Global Ctrl. PR/net
- Gateway --- Protocol/Media
- A discussion then followed on into what I would call the "stacking" order of
- the data and the problems and solutions of addressing data to other stations.
- All in all, it was a pleasure attending this seminar, listening to the info
- that Hank and the other participants exchanged, and highly recommend the sem-
- minars to follow. (see parent msg)
-
- PACKET RADIO HDLC PROTOCOL NOTES
-
- The protocol used by the Vancouver Digital Communications Group controller
- board, and also used by the packet radio repeater is based on a subset of
- HDLC standard protocol. In this protocol the standard unit of information
- is the frame:
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- | SYNC | SYNC | FLAG | ADDR | CNTL | TEXT | ... | TEXT | FCS1 | FCS2 | FLAG |
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- where
- SYNC - preframe synchronization, idle flags or zeroes
- FLAG - start of frame, bit pattern 01111110
- ADDR - address byte, hex 00 to FF
- CNTL - control byte, indicates type of frame, other info
- TEXT - optional information field
- FCS1 - first byte of frame check sequence (CRC)
- FCS2 - second byte of frame check sequence
- FLAG - closing flag
- other features used
- bit stuffing - provides fully transparent transmission of data
- NRZI encode - Zeroes cause transition which allows clock recovery
- multiframe - Up to (7) frames permitted in a single transmission
- types of frames
- Non-sequenced-information - Used for Connect/Disconnect
- Supervisory - Used for window & flow control
- Information - Used for transmission of text
-
- *** P&I2 5-AUG-81
- PARENT=PROBLEMS&ISSUES USAGE= 88
-
- NSI Frames:
- FLAG ADDR CNTL FMCALL TOCALL FCS1 FCS2 FLAG
- ADDR - Address of calling station (assigned to each station)
- CNTL - 17H = Connect request
- 07H = Connect acknowledge
- 53H = Disconnect request
- 43H = Disconnect acknowledge
-
- The Poll/Final (P/F) bit, 10H, is used to force a
- response from the receiving station. Used here and
- in other frame types for this function.
-
- FMCALL - Call of station originating the frame (6 characters)
- TOCALL - Call of station receiving the frame (6 characters)
-
- The callsign is left-justified in the field and pad-
- ded with trailing blanks if the call is shorter than
- 6 characters.
-
- Supervisory Frames:
- FLAG ADDR CNTL FSC1 FCS2 FLAG
- ADDR - Address of sender
-
- CNTL - 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
- -----------------------------------------
- | Nr |P/F| 0 0 0 1 | Receive Ready
- -----------------------------------------
-
- -----------------------------------------
- | Nr |P/F| 0 1 0 1 | Zcv Not Ready
- -----------------------------------------
- Nr = Sequence count of next expected I-frame
- P/F = Poll/Final bit
- Information Frames:
- FLAG ADDR CNTL TEXT ... TEXT FCS1 FCS2 FLAG
- ADDR - Address of sender
- CNTL - 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
- -----------------------------------------
- | Nr |P/F| Ns | 0 | I-frame
- -----------------------------------------
- Nr = Sequence count of next expected I-frame
- P/F = Poll/Final bit
- Ns = Sequence count of this I-frame
- TEXT - Text field, 128 bytes maximum, ASCII code
- Timeouts:
- T1 - Receive timeout, 2-3 seconds
- T1S - Frame timeout, time for frame of maximum length
- Tr 0 - Delay time (random) prior to transmission of first frame
- of a sequence, 950 milliseconds to 1.25 seconds (cont.)
-
- *** P&I3 5-AUG-81
- PARENT=P&I2 USAGE= 86
-
- Addresses:
- 00 - No operation
- 01-7F - Station direct connect addresses
- 80 - Reserved
- 81-9F - Repeater input channel addresses
- A0 - Reserved
- A1-BF - Repeater output channel addresses
- C0-FE - Reserved
- FF - All parties addressed
-
-
-
- A great deal of information is to be gained from attending the seminars.
- If you cannot attend then write to:
- Hank Magnuski, KA6M 415-854-1927
- 311 Stanford Avenue
- Menlo Park, CA 94025
-
- -cas-
-
- *** WHAT-IS-NRZI 6-AUG-81
- PARENT=PROBLEMS&ISSUES USAGE= 86
- What is the NRZI encoding that is mentioned everywhere in this
- packet radio conference? The only NRZI I know about is used in
- digital magnetic tape recording and is not self-clocking.
- I use a format called SDLC which is very similar to HDLC and I
- encode it with a scheme called Phase Modulation which works
- like this:
- Starting bit stream: 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1
- Encoded bit stream: 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1
- Is this what is called NRZI in packet radio?
- I think it is wonderful that people are working on packet
- radio and I would like to learn more about it, thanks for all
- the technical info in the preceding (I hope I put this message
- in the right place so they are preceding) messages.
- Peter Ryan
-
- *** ANSWER??? 15-AUG-81
- PARENT=WHAT-IS-NRZI USAGE= 58
- Peter, if you have access to 'Reference Data For Radio Engineers' (c
- Howard W. Sams Co.,Inc.) look on page 40-24. There, NRZ, NRZI and PM
- are discussed. From what info I have on P/R, the protocol is SDLC.
- NRZI is a transition whenever the data changes states, SDLC is a 0 (Zero)
- whenever 5 consecutive 1's (one's) are encountered. The receiver is tasked
- with the removal of the 0. I can understand why you don't see how to
- recover a clock from NRZI. Frankly, I don't either. Send a binary 63, and
- recover the clock from it (without the sync field, that is) My disk system,
- and I think a lot of others uses NRZI, with sync, so the clock is easily
- recovered. If you need more info, I'll type it in. (My kingdom for a
- flying spot scanner interfaced to this machine!) And Curtis, if you can
- get the March 1981 issue of 'the packet' it has what you just explained
- in your review of the seminar. Someone ought to get all of the newslettess,
- articles ect together, and print them up. Very interesting reading, for
- what I have. Enough computering for today, snooze time.
- Rick
-
- *** IF/NW 11-SEP-81
- PARENT=PR.SEMINARS.BAY.AREA USAGE= 15
- The third seminar in our series on packet radio was held last evening, and
- was attended by 25 people. The theme of the meeting was "Interfacing to the
- Network".
-
- Announcements -
-
- Howard Nurse, W6LLO, has his 20M packet station available for schedules. He
- would like to make some contacts to checkout the equipment, as no one else
- in this area is ready. The station will, in general, be connected to the
- mailbox system here, but it is currently not continously on. Please call me
- or Howard, or send us a message.
-
- Hank Magnuski distributed a 555 baseon his VADCG board
- to implement a downline loaded version of the protocol.
- pvolunteered to try mounting 3 MK4118N3 1kx8 RAMS on his VADCG board
- to implement a downline loaded version of the protocol.
-
- The VADCG 1200 baud modem schematics, recently received, were inspected byCqthe group.
-
- Brian Yee and Dave Altekruse described their recent meeting with Larry Kayser,
- VE3QB. There were several questions concerning the satellite channel, and
- more information is needed on the details of the Vancouver-Ottawa link.
-
- Speakers -
-
- The main topic of the meeting was a description of how some of our network
- users have connected their persnal computer systems to packet.
-
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- CNTL - 17H = Connect request
- 07H = Connect acknowledge
- 53H = Disconnect request
- 43H = Disconnect acknowledge
-
- The Poll/Final (P/F) bit, 10H, is used to force a
- response from the receiving station. Used here and
- in other frame types for this function.
-
- FMCALL - Call of station originating the frame (6 characters)
- TOCALL - Call of station receiving the frame (6 characters)
-
- The callsign is left-justified in the field and pad-
- ded with trailing blanks if the call is shorter than
- 6 characters.
-
- Supervisory Frames:
- FLAG ADDR CNTL FSC1 FCS2 FLAG
- ADDR - Address of sender
-
- CNTL - 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
- -----------------------------------------
- | Nr |P/F| 0 0 also pointed out the treme~dus
- diversity of systems in use, and yet there is little trouble in getting
- these systems to communicate with the current packet setup.
-
- Network Usage Survey -
-
- To wrap up the meeting and to get an answer to |he question of "What are
- we going to use it for?" a matrix of in|erests vs. potential users was
- contructed by the group:
-
- Topic Votes
-
- Experimentation/Design/Technical 9
- Compof sender
- CNTL - 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
- -----------------------------------------
- | Nr |P/F| Ns | 0 | I-frame
- -----------------------------------------
- Nr = Sequence count of next expected I-frame
- P/F = Poll/Final bit
- Ns = Sequence count of this I-frame
- TEXT - Text field, 128 bytes maximum, ASCII code
- Timeouts:
- T1 - Receive timeout, 2-3 seconds
- T1S - Frame timeout, time for frame of maximum length
- Tr 0 - Delay time (random) prior to transmission of first frame
- of a sequence, 950 milliseconds to 1.2