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- Subject: How to get DECUS UUCP [updated]
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.134309.710@fps.mcw.edu>
- From: brodie@fps.mcw.edu
- Date: 11 Nov 92 13:43:09 CST
- Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, WI
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-
- There has been a change in the ftp sites for decus uucp.
- Notably, the "root" site (mis1.mis.mcw.edu) has been changed,
- and is now "post.its.mcw.edu". Adding to this is the fact that
- the new root system is a unix system, and not vms. Currently,
- there are 4 major sites that offer decus uucp via anonymous ftp:
- Two of them are VMS sites, and the other two are unix-based.
-
- I've made a lot of additions to the "how to get" document, so here it is.
- ======================================================================
- UUCP_INFO.TXT
- -or-
- "The canned answer given to folks who want to get a copy of DECUS UUCP"
-
- Last Revision: 11/11/92 Kent C. Brodie (brodie@fps.mcw.edu)
- -or- fps!brodie)
-
-
- How to get DECUS UUCP (Version 2.0):
-
- DECUS UUCP, distributed by the DECUS "VMSNET" working group, is a complete
- implementation of UUCP for VMS. It is becoming one of the most popular
- "packages" offered from DECUS, and for many VAX sites, it's their only
- way to get to the internet. This file describes how you may
- obtain your very own copy of the software for little or no cost.
-
-
- 1) via DECUS. By far the most popular method of obtaining DECUS UUCP
- is through the VAX SIG TAPES distributed by the DECUS librarians. The
- tapes (now available on CDROM, too!) do not cost much (or nothing at all
- if you obtain them via your LUG librarian), and you'll get
- TONS of stuff besides "just" UUCP. Contact your local DECUS tape
- librarian, and find out how you can get the latest set of DECUS tapes.
- (You can also order them through the DECUS LIBRARY)
-
- NOTE:
- * decus UUCP (V2.0) is NOW available on the SPRING 1992 tapes
- * decus UUCP (V1.3) last appeared on the FALL 1990 tapes
-
- 2) using FTP via the INTERNET. DECUS UUCP (V2.0) is available via anonymous
- ftp from the following sites (on both unix and VMS sites):
-
- ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9) directory /systems/vms/uucp
- (maintained by the folks at uunet)
- [a SUN system running UNIX]
-
- post.its.mcw.edu (141.106.32.10) directory /pub/decus_uucp
- (maintained by brodie@mis.mcw.edu)
- [a DECstation running Ultrix]
-
- ftp.spc.edu (192.107.46.27) directory [.decus_uucp]
- (maintained by terry@spcvxa.spc.edu)
- [a VAX/VMS system with CMU/TEK TCPIP]
-
- mvb.saic.com (139.121.19.1) directory [.decus_uucp]
- (maintained by Mark.berryman@mvb.saic.com)
- [a VAX/VMS system with MULTINET]
-
- "post.its.mcw.edu" is the ftp site that *I* maintain, and any
- updates I receive will be immediately passed down to the other sites
- shown above.
-
- The contents of the 'decus uucp' directory [on VMS systems]
- should have the following:
- (file sizes listed are VMS disk blocks [=512 bytes each])
-
-
- DEVEL.BKP;1 16128
- MAPS.BKP;1 13167
- NEWSDEVEL.BKP;1 7623
- * RUN.BKP;1 8001
- SUPPDOC.BKP;1 3465
- SUPPNEWS.BKP;1 12096
- * UU20BOOT.BKP;1 1890
-
- Total of 7 files, 62370 blocks.
-
- Files with a "*" are the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM required. Additionally,
- NEW sites (not yet running UUCP) will also need MAPS.BKP.
- The "NEWS" files refer to Geoff Huston's ANU-NEWS, which is
- also distributed with DECUS UUCP.
-
- The contents of the "decus uucp" directory for unix systems with the
- package should look like the following:
-
- * -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 10198 Jul 20 19:52 aaareadme.txt
- -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 4787679 Jul 10 05:01 devel.bkp-z
- -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 2112011 Jul 10 05:17 newsdevel.bkp-z
- * -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 85666 Jul 17 00:15 preboot.vms_share
- * -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 2460500 Jul 10 05:24 run.bkp-z
- -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 900149 Jul 10 05:27 suppdoc.bkp-z
- -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 3591934 Jul 10 05:37 suppnews.bkp-z
- * -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 498411 Jul 17 00:22 uu20boot.bkp-z
-
- Files marked with a "*" are the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM required. (note:
- the files here are a bit different from the VMS FTP or MAGTAPE
- distribution because they're compressed)
-
- Hint: If you're using MULTINET, then do the FTP from mvb.saic.com,
- since MULTINET-MULTINET transfers can handle VMS backup savesets
- perfectly (with the "TYPE BACKUP" command).
-
- Additionally, If you're really up to it, the ftp site
- wuarchive.wustl.edu currently offers the latest VAX SIG decus
- tape offerings via anonymous ftp. (the WHOLE tape, no parts!). Be
- ready for a lot of transfer time and a lot of pieces, though.
-
- If you do use FTP on any of the above sites, PLEASE be kind.
- DECUS UUCP is kind of big, so transfer it during non-peak hours.
-
-
- 3) Via "anonymous uucp".
- [thanks to Jamie Hanrahan who arranged for this....]
-
- UUNET also has the package available for pickup via anonymous uucp.
- (any DECUS UUCP site running at least V1.2 can make use of this!)
-
- DOCUMENTATION ON USING ANONYMOUS UUCP IS *IN* YOUR EXISTING (V1.2+)
- DECUS UUCP DOCUMENTATION (USRGDxx.MEM).
-
- You can use uunet even if you are not a "subscriber" (they have
- a 900 number! At the time of writing, connect charges via 900
- access costs about $0.40 a minute) (be forwarned: uunet
- charges rates based on connect time used.... based on a V.32 modem
- (etc), the BASE kit would cost about $10-$12. The ENTIRE kit can
- probably be retrieved for under $50.) Although long distance is
- the "next best thing to being there", it isn't cheap....
-
- (If all you have is a 2400-baud modem, don't even consider this.....)
-
- The directory to get the files from is ~/systems/vms/uucp and
- the very first file to retrieve is "aaareadme.txt". That file
- will then document for you everything else you have to do. (what
- files to get, how to uncompress them, etc.).
-
- See the unix-based file list above for reference to all the file names
- and file sizes for UUNET. You can be the judge as to what it would
- cost to transfer knowing your system's capabilities, modem speed,
- and connection rate.
-
-
- 4) Lastly, the final method of getting a copy is via your local friendly
- mailman. I provide free distribution of the DECUS UUCP package,
- but only if you pay the freight.
-
- Package the following:
-
- 1 tape (TK50, TK70, TK86 or 9-track)
- 1 self-addressed, STAMPED envelope to fit the tape **required**
-
-
- Mail it all to:
-
- DECUS UUCP
- c/o Kent Brodie
- Faculty Physicians & Surgeons
- 11200 West Plank Court, Suite 160
- Wauwatosa, WI 53226
-
-
- (If you send me a 9-track tape, I can handle 1600 or 6250bpi.)
- If you use 6250, it will all fit on a 600-foot reel. If you need 1600,
- then you must send a 2400-foot reel)
-
- U.S. Postage for mailing a TKxx cartridge is something like $2.90.
- (thus, for both ways, the total cost is $5.80)
-
- A few notes. I provide this service free of charge, but at the
- same time, The Medical College of Wisconsin didn't hire me to make
- tape copies either. As I get tapes to make, I make them when I can.
- Usual turnaround time is about a week. ("your mileage may vary").
-
- Finally, when it comes to the self-addressed "stamped"
- envelope, you can use normal US postal mail, Federal Express, or UPS.
- Our office does not normally deal with any other couriers, so please
- don't go using DHL or something. If you do use a courier, make sure
- to fill out a return delivery form with the charges billed to your
- company's account number.
-
- Questions? email me or gimme a call.
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems Manager InterNet: brodie@fps.mcw.edu
- Faculty Physicians & Surgeons uucpNet: fps.mcw.edu!brodie
- Medical College of Wisconsin MaBellNet: +1 414 266 5080
-
- --
- Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems & Network Manager InterNet: brodie@fps.mcw.edu
- Faculty Physicians & Surgeons uucpNet: fps.mcw.edu!brodie
- Medical College of Wisconsin MaBellNet: +1 414 266 5080
-
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-
- From: UUCP%"KENNEDY@Eisner.DECUS.Org" 18-DEC-1992 14:15:34.06
- To: jeh@cmkrnl.com
- Subj: Notefile PUBLIC_DOMAIN_SOFTWARE Note 58.451
-
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- Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:14:57 -0500 (EST)
- From: Terry Kennedy <KENNEDY@Eisner.DECUS.Org>
- Subject: Notefile PUBLIC_DOMAIN_SOFTWARE Note 58.451
- To: jeh@cmkrnl.com
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-
- FYI - some changes to the "how to get it". I send these to the author some
- time ago, but it seems they didn't make it in to this one...
-
-
- > ftp.spc.edu (192.107.46.27) directory [.decus_uucp]
- > (maintained by terry@spcvxa.spc.edu)
- > [a VAX/VMS system with CMU/TEK TCPIP]
-
- Actually, the FTP server is CRUX (a homebrew thing based on CMU).
-
- > Hint: If you're using MULTINET, then do the FTP from mvb.saic.com,
- > since MULTINET-MULTINET transfers can handle VMS backup savesets
- > perfectly (with the "TYPE BACKUP" command).
-
- ftp.spc.edu also handles these, using the MultiNet FTP extensions.
-
- (end)
-