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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
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- REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE
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- OCTOBER 3RD, 1991
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- Reported by:
- Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains
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- - Meeting Agenda
- - Meeting Attendees
- - Meeting Notes
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- Please contact IESG Secretary Greg Vaudreuil
- (iesg-secretary@nri.reston.va.us) for more details on any particular topic.
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- Attendees
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- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Chiappa, Noel
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Crocker, Dave / DEC
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Davin, Chuck / MIT
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / BBN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- Regrets
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- Borman, David / CRAY
- Callon, Ross / DEC
- Estrada, Susan / CERFnet
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
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- Agenda
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- 1) Administrivia
- - Bash the Agenda
- - Review of the Minutes
- - July 30th - Aug 2nd.
- - August 8th
- - August 15th
- - August 29
- - September 5
- - September 12
- - September 19
- - Next Meeting
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- 2) Protocol Actions
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- - Secure Operation of Internet
- - BGP
- - Routing Information Protocol
- - DOD IP Security Option
- - Bridge MIB
- - Point to Point Protocol
- - Ethernet MIB
- - Common IGP
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- 3) Working Group Actions
- - IP over ATM Working Group
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- 1. Administrivia
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- 1.1 Bash the Agenda
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- The agenda was approved as written.
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- 1.2 Review of the Minutes
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- The minutes of September 19th were approved. The minutes of July
- 30th-Aug 2nd, August 8th, August 15th, August 29, September 5, and
- September 12 will be installed and announced to the IETF
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Write and send an announcement of the
- availability of the IESG minutes.
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- 1.3 Next Meeting:
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- A face to face meeting was schedule for Tuesday evening over dinner.
- Dave Crocker will make the appropriate arrangements.
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- A teleconference was scheduled for Oct 17th for the regular 12-2 PM time.
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- 2. Protocol Actions
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- 2.1 Secure Operation of the Internet
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- The work of the Security Policy Working Group is now as finished. The
- effort to write guidelines is one which could be iterated
- indefinitely, but the current version good and should be published.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a notification to Postel requesting
- publication of the "Guidelines for the Secure Operation of the
- Internet" document.
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- 2.2 Border Gateway Protocol
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- The recommendation to publish BGP as a draft standard was sent to the
- IAB. A discussion is expected at the IAB meeting at Interop, and
- Hinden and Chiappa have been invited to participate in that
- discussion.
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- 2.3 Routing Information Protocol
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- The Routing Information Protocol is currently a Draft Standard. It
- was one of the many protocols grandfathered in an effort begun during
- the February 1990 IETF meeting. It is now eligible for elevation to
- Full Standard. RIP does not meet current requirements for Draft of
- Full Standard according to the current procedures, but the IESG feels
- this protocol is a defacto standard, and should continue under the
- grandfathering process.
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- There is discussion on the creation of RIP II, a new protocol based on
- RIP which is intended at a minimum to carry subnet information. The
- IESG agreed that this protocol if developed will be a new protocol and have
- to meet the standards for modern routing protocols, including a MIB.
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- POSITION: RIP II as a new protocol must meet all the requirements of a
- new modern routing protocol.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a message to the IETF announcing the IESG
- position in regards to the evolution of RIP.
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- RIP is listed as a "Must Implement" in the Router Requirements
- document. Currently RIP is not a Full Standard, and is believed
- by many to be an obsolete protocol. RIP has been included in Router
- Requirements as an acknowledgement of RIP as the defacto "common" IGP.
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- The IESG discussed whether having two common IGP's was consistent with
- the intention of the IESG to define "a" common IGP. More importantly,
- does the declaration of RIP as a common IGP opened up the possibility
- of declaring IS-IS also a "common" IGP? The IESG agreed that RIP is
- the current "common" IGP, and OSPF is it's replacement. It is the
- intention of the IESG to have one IGP, and the listing of RIP in Router
- Requirements is a pragmatic necessity for real operators until OSPF is
- widely deployed.
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- POSITION: The IESG intends there to be only one common IGP. OSPF has
- been designated as the modern IGP to replace RIP as the defacto common
- IGP.
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- ACTION: Almquist -- Reopen the requirement that RIP be a "MUST" in Router
- Requirements to confirm that Working Group "really really" wants RIP
- as a MUST Implement.
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- In a related topic, it has recently been pointed out that many hosts
- "wiretap" RIP packets to discover their nearest router. In this sense
- RIP is being used as a router discovery protocol. If this practice is
- extended to OSPF, it is possible that the amount of information
- carried by OSPF will dramatically increase. Now that a router
- discovery protocol has been defined, it is no longer necessary to use
- routing protocols as router discovery protocols.
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- POSITION: OSPF is not a router discovery protocol. OSPF should not be
- implemented in hosts for the purpose of router discovery.
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- ACTION: Gross, Chiappa, Almquist -- Insure that the IGP statement
- explicitly discourages the use of OSPF as a router discover protocol.
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- 2.4 DOD IP Security Option.
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- Progress is being made in the IPSO effort, and the September 30th
- deadline for resolution of the major items was met. It appears that
- the IESG linkage of the DOD IP Security option was an effective
- forcing function. It is expected that an Internet Draft will be
- published at any time.
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- 2.5) Bridge MIB
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- There is no progress to report in the efforts to coordinate with the
- IEEE. The IESG agreed that it is not necessary to hold up the current
- work to align with the IEEE at the proposed standard level. The IESG
- made a commitment to reopen the question of alignment at the Draft
- Standard stage.
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- 2.6) Point to Point Protocol.
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- The last call for comments to the IETF list has been met with silence.
- The IESG took this to mean that there are no outstanding objections to
- the advancement of PPP to Draft Standard.
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- No progress has been reported in discussion with the working group
- chairman and the editors of the PPP documents. The IESG has decided
- that the current author should be listed as the editor, and Drew
- Perkins should be listed prominently in the Acknowledgements in a
- manner similar to the BGP document.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Encourage a reposting of the PPP documents with
- the proper authorship information. After receiving the new documents,
- send a recommendation elevating the protocol to Draft Standard.
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- 2.7) Ethernet MIB
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- The IAB has accepted the Ethernet MIB in it's original form. Any
- alignment with the IEEE MIB will occur at the Draft Standard stage.
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- ACTION: Davin -- Announce the IAB decision to the SNMP Mailing list.
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- 3) Working Group Actions
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- 3.1) IP over ATM WG
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- The IP over ATM working group has been chartered to define an
- experimental protocol for running IP over ATM in a local networking
- environment. Given this limited scope, George Clapp, acting as
- informal liaison between the IESG and the IEEE felt comfortable
- with this Working Group. The IESG approved the Charter.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the IP over ATM working Group to the
- IETF Mailing List.
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- Note: The prospective chair of the IP over ATM working group in
- consultation with the IETF chair opted to delay the chartering of this
- working group until after a BOF session could be held at the Santa Fe
- IETF plenary meeting to more accurately gauge the constituency for
- this effort.
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