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CURRENT MEETING REPORT
Reported by Joyce K. Reynolds, ISI
Minutes of the User Services Working Group (USV)
A "thank-you very much" to Ryan Moats of the InterNIC who provided
me with his notes of the USWG session. They were invaluable in
compiling these minutes.
Discussions/Reports
o A report on IETF User Services Area activities
There are eight working groups active, RUN has closed down and
their work is out as FYI 28. ISN is working to update FYI 22. ISN
related comments can be send to jodi@hawaii.edu and
sellers@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov.
o Reports on related global liaison group activities and international
conferences
IESG and USV Area status and updates at the RIPE meeting plenary
were provided by Joyce.
Tel-Ed Conference, Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
ISN held an interim meeting at this conference, chaired by Jennifer
Sellers. Joyce attended the meeting to into other education on-line
magazines and National Educational Conference (NEC) for 96 is in
May. Are Educators interested in ERIC via the Internet? This job
might be easier because there are national education organizations
for disseminating information (e.g., in Germany, schule.de). The
Asian IAPs will be holding the Apricot Conference, January 18-24,
1996 in Singapore. This may be a place to obtain additional input.
o Info Scout Update-Susan Calcari
The IS side of the InterNIC was shutdown at General Atomics.
Susan and her job are now located at UW-Madison. She has been
hiring personnel, including
Tom Newell as NIC liaison. She and has also hired a librarian.
Send mail to scout@internic.net for the Scout Report. The Scout
Toolkit is now located at:
http://www.internic.net/scout
It will be announced after this IETF meeting.
o InterNIC Report-Tom Newell/NIC Liaison (tomn@internic.net or
liaison@internic.net)
There have been many conferences attended in the last few months
(ACM-SIG, CNI, EDUCOM, etc.) where InterNIC outreach has been
done. The primary finding is that the ISP's think that the InterNIC
should be doing more for them. The most specific or common answer
was, "We don't know, but the InterNIC should do something and let
the community critique it."
Tom mentioned that the InterNIC's original focus was service to the
R&D community. The InterNIC is looking into how to expand the
focus to a broader community. Specifically the commercial folks.
A new project has been undertaken. The NSFnet newsletter will be
resurrected as the InterNIC News. It will be published on a monthly
basis, stored in a variety of electronic formats, etc. It will have the
same focus as the newsletter had before, but with a broader
audience. The two places where the InterNIC previously helped
was small colleges and local libraries. The proposed format
includes: key interviews, technical topics, Newbie topics, and
InterNIC information.
A second project in development at the InterNIC is the "Fifteen
Minute Series". These would be packages that take 15 minutes to
present to folks from "what is the Internet" to "what tools are
available", etc. This includes the concept that the InterNIC can act
as the "glue" or "clearinghouse" of internetworking information.
Another project that might be performed by the InterNIC is hosting
regional conferences with a focus on either the ISPs or discussing
registration and information aspects of the InterNIC.
The mailing list of nic-support@internic.net for posting your
thoughts and comments.
o Discussion/Participation of USWG projects and USV-Web Updates
http://rs.internic.net/usv-web.html
Janet Max reported that the ds link to
http://rs.internic.net/usv-web.html seems to be broken.
There is a gopher link broken in one of the ds machines (i.e., the
fyi-index.html does not come up). The InterNIC folks will check
these out and report back to Joyce on the status.
Joyce and Tom will take the action to look at the USV-Web pages
and update them. Also, it was suggested that the USV-Web page
should be more visible then where it is currently nested, and that
USV Area Internet-Drafts should also be listed on the web, along
with the FYI RFC finished products.
The discussion then turned to the status of the NIC Locator project.
This was a discussion of the problem of the ISPs sending information
to the InterNIC to be included in the NIC-Locator database. The
problem is how appropriate is it to list "commercial" entries. A
question was raised on how often do the NIC-Locator pages get hit?
It is thought to be not very often. Also, there is already a "list.com",
which pretty much provides the information that the NIC-Locator
originally provided. It was decided that the NIC-Locator will be
killed off.
o The HTMLing of FYI RFCs
Janet Max, who did all the work in HTMLing FYI RFCs for the
USWG and Internet community has agreed to continue to do this, and
also provide support at least for the next year or so. (YEAH! -
thanks JLM!)
Jon Postel has constructed up web pages, which access the HTML FYI
RFCs, among other items:
RFC-Editor page: http://www.isi.edu/rfc-editor
IANA page: http://www.isi.edu/iana
o Butterfly Glossary from Italy
This is located at
http://www.pi.cnr.it/ODI/Glossario/glhpage.html
A. Blasco Bonito (GARR-Italy) wants feedback from USWGers on
how they like it.
o UserGlos Working Group Update
Gary Malkin provided a brief presentation regarding the UserGlos
Working Group status. It has been canceled at this IETF because he
has been ill, has not had enough time to get ready for the session,
and there has been no almost no activity or input by working group
members. However, new entries are being filled in and an I-D will
be put out in a month to finish at the next IETF in March in Los
Angeles.
o Any other business
AIDAT (African Internet Development Action Team) is a volunteer
organization mainly based in South Africa working to bring the
Internet to Africa. The question that comes up is that there is a
need/niche for some documentation (FYI RFC?) aimed at developing
countries for an organization (country/university/etc.) to get access
to the Internet. This could be something for the USWG to work on as
a project.
On another topic, request for information on setting up or running a
regional or country NIC would be useful. After a round of discussion,
it was decided that this will not be followed up because information
on dealing with governments is not what the USWG or the IETF
should get into.