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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Sue Hares/Merit
Minutes of Network OSI Operations Working Group (NOOP)
Agenda
o Transport MIB (Russ Blaesing)
o Tools RFC
o Echo RFC
o Tuba Presentation
The Network OSI Operations Working Group met once during the Columbus
IETF. Russ Blaesing led a discussion of the Transport MIB. Suggestions
included the following:
o Post the MIB to Venera.ISI.??? under experimental.
o Post a short form MIB to the NOOP List.
Tools and Echo RFCs
After minor editing the Tools RFC and Echo RFC will go to the Area
Director for forwarding to the ``requirements'' track.
Some questions/comments:
Host requirements specifying how the OSI hosts behave on the Internet
should include the slow start from Van Jacobson. Sue Hares expressed
her concern that this would slow down the basic format.
Tuba Presentation
Mark Knopper gave a presentation on TUBA which raised the following
issues:
1. BSD on 486 or BSDI/BSD4.4.
Has Tuba, TCP, telnet, and does new ping
2. NCSA telnet machine.
No packet driver, Packet on driver looks at OSI packets dump them.
3. CLNPDUMP on SUNOS.
4. Cisco does TUBA for UDP, telnet, TFTP.
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A problem with Tuba is that there is no end host vendor buy in. An EON
configuration needs to be posted. Sue Hares will make it available via
anonymous ftp on merit.edu under /pub/noop/config. She will also try to
improve the daily clnp service in the Internet infrastructure by
creating the following files:
o Host.db
o bis.db
o is.db
The Group will clnpping all hosts or routers listed in the host.db,
bis.db, and is.db.
A concern was expressed that the infrastructure was only up for demos.
People will be solicited for weekly pings. There is a catch-22 that you
must have a working infrastructure in order to have people try out a
Tuba Infrastructure.
Attendees
William Barns barns@gateway.mitre.org
Russell Blaesing rrb@one.com
Rebecca Bostwick bostwick@es.net
Ross Callon rcallon@wellfleet.com
Richard Colella colella@nist.gov
Tom Easterday tom@cic.net
Dale Finkelson dmf@westie.mid.net
Peter Ford peter@goshawk.lanl.gov
Susan Hares skh@merit.edu
John Heimaster jwh@mps.ohio-state.edu
Matthew Jonson jonson@server.af.mil
Mark Knopper mak@merit.edu
Daniel Long long@nic.near.net
Kim Long klong@sura.net
Bill Manning bmanning@sesqui.net
Daniel McRobb dwm@noc.ans.net
Dennis Morris morrisd@imo-uvax.disa.mil
Peder Norgaard pcn@tbit.dk
Andrew Partan asp@uunet.uu.net
Laura Pate pate@gateway.mitre.org
David Piscitello dave@mail.bellcore.com
Willi Porten porten@gmd.de
Selina Priestley sfp@noc.ans.net
April Richstein amr@tycho.ncsc.mil
Vilson Sarto vilson@fapq.fapesp.br
John Scudder jgs@merit.edu
Craig Smith smith@ohio.gov
Bernhard Stockman boss@ebone.net
Catherine Summers cfs@cos.com
Richard Thomas rjthomas@bnr.ca
Louisa Thomson louisa@whitney.hac.com
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Jack Waters waters@sura.net
Cathy Wittbrodt cjw@barrnet.net
Paul Zawada Zawada@ncsa.uiuc.edu
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