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Editor╒s note: These minutes have not been edited.
I am pleased to report that, despite short notice on the documents and
no agenda in advance, that we had a very productive meeting in LA.
The results of this are clearly summarized in the attached minutes from
Kevin Jordan (thanks for these excellent minutes). I went into the
meeeting with the belief that there were a number of issues which
would be hard to handle. All of the open items had productive and
clear discussion leading to sensible resolution with a high degree of
consensus. I am confident that we will be able to get these documents
rapidly put to bed.
Steve Kille
Minutes of MADMAN Working Group
35th IETF
Los Angeles, California
USA
Wednesday, March 6, 1996
Working Group Chair: Steve Kille, ISODE Consortium, Ltd.
Minutes taken by: Kevin Jordan, Control Data Systems, Inc.
1. The minutes of the previous meeting in Dallas were approved.
2. The agenda of the current meeting was approved.
3. Network Application MIB. The group discussed the relationship
between
the System Application MIB and the Network Application MIB. A
network application could be defined as a subclass of the generic system
application class, so the System Application MIB could reference the
Network Application MIB in order to realize this hierarchical
relationship.
It was decided that the Network Application MIB specification will
be updated to include text which describes its relationship to the
System Application MIB and also the Host Resources MIB. The MIB
itself will not be updated to include any new variables or any direct
reference to these other MIB's.
4. Directory MIB. This MIB is stable and will be progressed onto the
standards track. However, support for URL's may be added (see point
6).
5. Mail MIB. Changes have been made to this MIB, primarily to reflect
comments and recommendations made by EMA (the Electronic
Messaging Association). The editor solicits comments against the new
draft, especially regarding the new text about conversions and routing
loops.
Improvements in monitoring of messaging failures are desirable.
However, making the Mail MIB substantially more complex to support
these improvements is not desirable. Steve and Ned will work together
to define and specify some more failure counters in the MIB (but not very
many more).
The Mail MIB specification will be upated to clarify how group
hierarchies can be defined, and some examples will be provided to
show how they are useful.
6. URL's. Support for specification of URL's will be added to each of
the
MIB's where it makes sense.
7. Traps. The current MIB specifications will not be updated to include
any specific support for traps. Instead, if there is sufficient interest
amongst the working group membership, support for traps will be
explored and specified via separate, experimental documents.
8. Future status. MADMAN will not meet again face to face. All
outstanding
work will be completed via e-mail using the MADMAN distribution
list.
Summary of action items:
- Ned will update the Network Application MIB specification to
describe its
relationship to the System Application and Host Resources MIB's.
- Ned will update the MIB's to include support for URL's where
appropriate.
- Steve and Ned will work together to define and document some more
counters
in the Mail MIB for monitoring messaging failures.
- Ned will update the Mail MIB to clarify how group hierarchies are
defined
and used.