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Editor's Note: Minutes received 11/24/92
CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Bob Hinden/Sun
Minutes of the IP over Asynchronous Transfer Mode Working Group (ATM)
Agenda
o Review Latest draft of ``Multiprotocol Interconnect over ATM
Adaptation Layer 5'' by Juha Heinanen.
o Reach a ``rough'' consensus on one multiplexing approach.
o Talk on Q.93B and ATM Signaling by Fong-Ching Liaw.
o Talk on Internet/ATM Signaling Requirements by Tom Lyon.
Meeting Summary
During the first session on Monday, the Working Group finalized its
approach for transporting Internet datagrams over ATM as described in
the ``Multiprotocol Interconnect over ATM Adaptation Layer 5''
Internet-Draft written by Juha Heinanen. The document describes two
approaches to encapsulating datagrams in ATM. These are: VC Based
Encapsulation, and Multiplexing Encapsulation.
The current draft of the document describes two approaches to
multiplexing encapsulation. The two approaches proposed are roughly
equivalent. They differ in the manner used to identify the protocols
being encapsulated. One uses NLPID (from Frame Relay) and the other
uses LLC's (from 802.x LAN).
A long discussion centered around the question of whether there should
be one or two multiplexing approaches. The Working Group voted and by a
two to one margin that one approach was preferable. After another long
discussion a vote was held to select one of the approaches. The LLC
approach was the clear winner of this vote. As a result of the these
votes the current draft document will be revised to only describe the VC
based encapsulation and the LLC multiplexing encapsulation in the main
section of the document.
The Working Group also reached a consensus to submit its proposal to the
Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) for entry into the Internet
Standards as a Proposed Standard.
This work is an important step in the work necessary to insure that
devices (e.g., hosts, routers, etc.) using Internet protocols (e.g.,
TCP/IP, ISO CLNP, Appletalk, etc.) can interoperate over ATM networks.
On Tuesday, Fong-Ching Liaw presented a talk on Q.93B and ATM signaling.
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Her talk described the current state of ATM signaling in CCITT and the
ATM Forum. A number of issues were uncovered that relate to signaling
parameters necessary for carrying Internet traffic. Fong-Ching Liaw and
Brian Lyles agreed to write a draft paper describing these issues and
make recommendations regarding how they can be handled. After review by
the Working Group, this document will be published as an RFC and sent to
the CCITT and the ATM Forum.
During Wednesday's session, Tom Lyon presented a talk on Internet and
ATM Signaling Requirements. The talk covered goals for ATM, addressing
requirements, header avoidance, connectionless service, multicast, and
routing.
Fred Sammartino, the President of the ATM Forum, attended the last day
of the Working Group and asked that an official liaison be formed
between the ATM Forum and the IETF IP over ATM Working Group. The
purpose of this liaison is to facilitate the exchange of protocols and
ideas between the two organizations.
Attendees
George Abe abe@infonet.com
Roland Acra acra@cisco.com
Randall Atkinson atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Floyd Backes backes@dsmail.enet.dec.com
Cynthia Bagwell cbagwell@gateway.mitre.org
William Barns barns@gateway.mitre.org
Ken Benstead kbenstead@coral.com
Shiraz Bhanji bhanji@gateway.mitre.org
Dean Blackketter deanb@apple.com
Fred Bohle fab@interlink.com
Rebecca Bostwick bostwick@es.net
Daniel Brennan dmb@teleoscom.com
Caralyn Brown cbrown@wellfleet.com
Ross Callon callon@bigfut.lkg.dec.com
Brian Carpenter brian@dxcern.cern.ch
Charles Carvalho charles@acc.com
Brett Chappell bchappe@relay.nswc.navy.mil
Dilip Chatwani dilip@synoptics.com
Szusin Chen szusin.chen@eng.sun.com
Chi Chong cchong@synoptics.com
Jim Christy christy@apple.com
George Clapp clapp@ameris.center.il.ameritech.com
Robert Cole rgc@qsun.att.com
Michael Collins collinsms@es.net
James Conklin jbc@bitnic.educom.edu
Michael Conn 4387451@mcimail.com
Bruce Davie bsd@bellcore.com
Michael DeAddio deaddio@thumper.bellcore.com
Barbara Denny denny@erg.sri.com
Art Dertke dertke@gateway.mitre.org
Kurt Dobbins dobbins@ctron.com
Jacques Dugast dugast@issy.cnet.fr
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Robert Enger enger@reston.ans.net
Steven Fellini steve@helix.nih.gov
William Fink bill@wizard.gsfc.nasa.gov
Eric Fleischman ericf@act.boeing.com
James Forster forster@cisco.com
Joseph Godsil jgodsil@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Mike Goguen goguen@src.dec.com
Heather Gray heather@zk3.dec.com
Terry Gray gray@cac.washington.edu
Paul Griffiths griff@chang.austin.ibm.com
Tony Hain alh@es.net
Joel Halpern jmh@network.com
Patrick Hanel hanel@yoyodyne.dco.ntc.nokia.com
Eugene Hastings hastings@psc.edu
Ken Hayward crm57d@bnr.ca
Frank Heath heath@cmc.com
Juha Heinanen juha.heinanen@datanet.tele.fi
Robert Hinden hinden@eng.sun.com
Jonathan Hsu brenda@penril.com
Kathleen Huber khuber@bbn.com
David Husak dave@synnet.com
Phil Irey pirey@relay.nswc.navy.mil
David Jacobson dnjake@vnet.ibm.com
George Kajos kajos@coral.com
Charley Kline cvk@uiuc.edu
Andrew Knutsen andrewk@sco.com
Mark Laubach laubach@hpl.hp.com
David LeRoy dleroy@mitchell.cit.cornell.edu
Fong-Ching Liaw fong@eng.sun.com
David Lin lind@janus-ccm.zenith.com
Bryan Lyles lyles@parc.xerox.com
Andrew Malis malis@bbn.com
Tracy Mallory tracym@3com.com
Allison Mankin mankin@gateway.mitre.org
George Marshall george@adaptive.com
Jun Matsukata jm@eng.isas.ac.jp
Donald Merritt don@brl.mil
Kathleen Nichols nichols@apple.com
Erik Nordmark nordmark@eng.sun.com
Ari Ollikainen ari@es.net
Hilarie Orman ho@cs.arizona.edu
Joe Pagan jrp@afterlife.ncsc.mil
Craig Partridge craig@bbn.com
David Piscitello dave@sabre.bellcore.com
Thomas Pusateri pusateri@cs.duke.edu
Bala Rajagopalan braja@qsun.att.com
Greg Ratta gregra@cc.bellcore.com
Tony Richards
Benny Rodrig 4373580@mcimail.com
Manoel Rodrigues manoel_rodrigues@att.com
Guenter Roeck roeck@conware.de
Timothy Salo tjs@msc.edu
Fred Sammartino fred@eng.sun.com
Jim Scott scott@kali.enet.dec.com
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Allyson Showalter allyson@nsipo.arc.nasa.gov
Dean Skidmore deans@ralvmiz.vnet.ibm.com
Keith Sklower sklower@cs.berkeley.edu
Lansing Sloan ljsloan@llnl.gov
Frank Solensky solensky@andr.ub.com
Marco Sosa mxs@sabre.bellcore.com
Scott Stein scotts@apple.com
Terrance Sullivan terrys@newbridge.com
Sally Tarquinio sallyt@gateway.mitre.org
Kaj Tesink kaj@cc.bellcore.com
Alice Wang alice.wang@eng.sun.com
Von Welch vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Guy Wells guy2@uswest.com
Gerry White gerry@lancity.com
Peter Will will@isi.edu
Douglas Williams dougw@ralvmg.vnet.ibm.com
Kirk Williams kirk@sbctri.sbc.com
Liang Wu ltw99@bellcore.com
Chin Yuan cxyuan@pacbell.com
John Zalubski zalubski@nic.ddn.mil
Paul Zawada Zawada@ncsa.uiuc.edu
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