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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Kevin Gamiel/MCNC - CNIDR
Minutes of the Integration of Internet Information Resources Working
Group (IIIR)
The ``Vision'' Document
A paragraph should be added to the ``Vision of an Integrated Internet
Information Service'' document (draft-ietf-iiir-vision) stating that the
vision is that of Peter Deutsch and Chris Weider, not of the group.
Chris will add this paragraph before the document expires. Chris will
also add concepts taken from Universal Network Interface To Everything
(UNITE) as suggested by Jill Foster.
Resource Transponders
The transponder document, ``Resource Transponders''
(draft-ietf-iiir-transponders), needs similar action. A paragraph needs
to be added stating that it is one vision, but not that of the entire
group. This document must be updated before expiring as well.
Z39.50 Over TCP/IP
Cliff Lynch discussed his Z39.50 over TCP document once again. There
was no disagreement from the group in submitting the paper as an RFC. He
will, however, post the most recent changes to the mailing list first.
WAIS and Z39.50
There were no comments on Margaret St. Pierre's document ``WAIS over
Z39.50-1988'' (draft-ietf-iiir-wais) and it will be submitted as an
Informational RFC. Brewster Kahle discussed a paper soon to come on the
WAIS profile based on Z39.50-1992.
Format Types Registry
Keith Moore discussed the types registry. RFC 1590 describes the
process for ``registering'' types. RFC 1590 gives details on how to
actually register. Requests to join the ietf-types@server.path.net list
should be sent to listserv@server.path.net. There is a security field
to indicate if there is or is not a security risk for the type name.
HTML/HTTP
Chris Weider discussed the current state of the HTML and HTTP documents.
The HTML document, ``Hypertext Markup Language (HTML): A Representation
of Textual Information and MetaInformation for Retrieval and
Interchange'' (draft-ietf-iiir-html), has been out for discussion. The
HTTP document, ``Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) A Stateless Search,
Retrieve and Manipulation Protocol'' (draft-ietf-iiir-http), has not
been submitted to the process yet. Tim Berners-Lee would like HTML and
HTTP to be Informational RFCs similar to the Gopher0 document.
Information Infrastructure
The issue of revising the charter was discussed. It was agreed that a
starting point for a charter could be the outcome of work being done by
Karen Sollins and Larry Manister on a requirements document for a global
information infrastructure. What common ground can be claimed (which
protocols can be shared)? UR*s are a valid, firm beginning. Jill
Foster suggested working more closely with librarians. Craig Summerhill
suggests working with he and CNI on determining a proper set of
participants.
Karen Sollins discussed some of the problems involved in defining the
components required for an information infrastructure, and explained
that the big picture, an integrated information infrastructure, is what
needs to be looked at. First cut at a list of services: service
location, security, caching/republication, URN!URL/URC, retrieval
(multiple protocols), retrieval ``engine'' (pass it a URL and it gives
you the object or a gateway location), gateways, definition server
(IANA) (might return the type information), update module
(transponders), payments/charging/accounting, coding/translation (GIF to
TIFF, etc.), presentation, and modification of services (added by Cliff
Newman).
Karen will develop these items into a draft for submission to the list
for discussion. Mitra suggests a functionality review of the items and
to narrow the scope. Chris Weider, Keith Moore, Mitra, Luc Boulianne,
Karen Sollins, and Larry Manister will be working on that. The European
Commission has asked the team to define a set of tasks for
infrastructure development. Erik Huizer will post the results of the
team to IIIR as a basis, which is somewhat parallel to Karens, in order
to avoid overlap. Most of the European Commission's 12 billion US
dollars will be put toward telephony infrastructure, with 50 million US
dollars toward advanced applications.
Gopher
The Gopher+ specification will be cleaned up at the next GopherCon and
will be submitted by Mark as an Informational RFC.
Attendees
Farhad Anklesaria fxa@boombox.micro.umn.edu
Alexis Bor bora@ct.si.cs.boeing.com
Sepideh Boroumand sepideh@jacks.gsfc.nasa.gov
Luc Boulianne lucb@bunyip.com
Mic Bowman
Ronald Broersma ron@nosc.mil
Michael Carroll br.mjc@rlg.stanford.edu
Jodi-Ann Chu jodi@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
Jim Conklin jbc@bitnic.educom.edu
Dante Delucia dante@usc.edu
Donald Eastlake dee@lkg.dec.com
Alan Emtage bajan@bunyip.com
Robert Enger enger@seka.reston.ans.net
Patrik Faltstrom paf@nada.kth.se
Jill Foster Jill.Foster@newcastle.ac.uk
Lois Frampton frampton@mitre.org
Paul Francis francis@cactus.slab.ntt.jp
Thane Frivold frivold@erg.sri.com
Kevin Gamiel kgamiel@cnidr.org
Arlene Getchell getchell@es.net
Anders Gillner awg@sunet.se
Judith Grass grass@cnri.reston.va.us
Sally Hambridge sallyh@ludwig.intel.com
Deborah Hamilton debbieh@internic.net
Darren Hardy hardy@cs.colorado.edu
Art Harkin ash@cup.hp.com
Alisa Hata hata@cac.washington.edu
Roland Hedberg Roland.Hedberg@umdac.umu.se
Jeff Hodges hodges@jessica.stanford.edu
Alex Hopmann alex.hopmann@resnova.com
Tim Howes tim@umich.edu
Richard Huber rvh@ds.internic.net
Erik Huizer Erik.Huizer@SURFnet.nl
Brewster Kahle Brewster@wais.com
Jim Knowles jknowles@binky.arc.nasa.gov
Mark Kosters markk@internic.net
Robert Kummerfeld bob@cs.su.oz.au
John Kunze jak@violet.berkeley.edu
Sylvain Langlois Sylvain.Langlois@der.edf.fr
Walter Lazear lazear@gateway.mitre.org
Paul Leach paulle@microsoft.com
Clifford Lynch calur@uccmvsa.ucop.edu
Glenn Mansfield glenn@aic.co.jp
Janet L. Marcisak jlm@ftp.com
April Marine april@atlas.arc.nasa.gov
Marilyn Martin martin@netcom.ubc.ca
Larry Masinter masinter@parc.xerox.com
Mark McCahill mpm@boombox.micro.umn.edu
James McKinney jmck@americast.com
Mitra mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us
Keith Moore moore@cs.utk.edu
Kim Morla kmorla@pucp.edu.pe
Clifford Neuman bcn@isi.edu
Paul-Andre Pays pays@faugeres.inria.fr
Pete Percival percival@indiana.edu
George Phillips phillips@cs.ubc.ca
John Romkey romkey@elf.com
Steven Russert srussert@atc.boeing.com
Srinivas Sataluri sri@internic.net
Rickard Schoultz schoultz@sunet.se
Jane Smith Jane.Smith@cnidr.org
Mark Smith mcs@umich.edu
Karen Sollins sollins@lcs.mit.edu
Milan Sova sova@feld.cvut.cz
Craig Summerhill craig@cni.org
Dave Thompson davet@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Aleks Totic atotic@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Phil Wintering pvw@americast.com