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Editor╒s note: These minutes have not been edited
GUTS meeting, Wed. March 6, 1996.
Meeting convened at 15:30 PST, Bob Moskowitz chair.
A brief period of agenda bashing started off the meeting. The agenda
laid out discussions in two areas -- impact of protocols on large
networks, and impact of applications on the network. Following this
the chair was asked to present some examples fo the types of problems
being seen. This led to a lively discussion that consumed the remainder
of the working group.
Thoughts and threads discussed:
* RFC1122 (host requirements) was a good thing, because it coalesced a
lot of information in different documents together and explained the
reasoning behind a number of rules. It is, however, several years out of
date, and there is much new "lore" which could be encoded.
* many of the "problems" seen in the network were both under active
pursuit in other working groups (such as HTTP improvements, and
IntSrv type work) or are open research questions without clearcut
answers.
* Application developers need more information than they currently
have. Most do not read RFCs, but rather standard references such as
Stevens. There should be a trickle down of information from the IETF
through such channels so that better information about programming for
the network gets to the programmers.
* Many agreed that it was important to clear up common
misunderstandings. An example of things discussed were "just because it
runs fine on my LAN doesn't make it a good in the Internet".
The focus of this group, should it form, should be on teaching
applications programmers not to make common mistakes. Also,
whatever documents are produced should be careful not to explain to
programmers how to get that extra oomph out of the network by being
bad to it!
Richard Stevens agreed to set up a mailing list for GUTS and draft
something to continue discussions. Once the list is set up, we will
announce it on the IETF list. It is unclear at this time if a wg or even an
informational RFC will result from this effort, but many agreed it was
worth further investigations.
Robert Moskowitz
Chrysler Corporation
(810) 758-8212