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CURRENT_MEETING_REPORT_
Reported by Larry J. Blunk/Merit
Minutes of the Terminal Server Accounting and Authentication (TERMACCT)
The meeting began with a presentation of the Authentication,
Authorization, and Accounting services currently provided in Merit
terminal servers, and how these features are lacking in commercial
terminal server equipment.
Authentication was discussed and there seemed to be a consensus that
Kerberos would be the way to go. There was some question about whether
terminal servers with limited resources would be able to implement
Kerberos (such as, how much ROM would it take?).
Authorization was mentioned as being a difficult issue. Kerberos V5 has
hooks for authorization, but currently provides no definitions. OSF DCE
apparently provides some authorization capabilities using Kerberos V5,
but it is not clear how suitable it would be for terminal servers.
Accounting and billing issues were discussed. Among the issues
discussed were the need to define accounting and billing variables.
There also may need to be interaction between the authorization and
accounting systems (to deny authorization for someone who has exceeded a
usage quota, for example). It was mentioned that the cost, in resources
and real dollars, of accounting needs to be weighed against the actual
value of the service.
There was much interest in the notion of a ``connection manager'' which
could provide a common or customizable user interface. Such a manager
would be run on a host machine and would likely interact with the
authentication, authorization, and accounting services.
The consensus of the BOF participants seemed to be that Merit should
come up with a requirements document for further discussion. It could
then be determined whether a new working group should be formed.
Attendees
Steve Alexander stevea@i88.isc.com
James Barnes barnes@xylogics.com
Charles Bazaar bazaar@emulex.com
Larry Blunk ljb@merit.edu
Philip Budne phil@shiva.com
Stephen Crocker crocker@tis.com
Erik Fair fair@apple.com
Barbara Fraser byf@cert.sei.cmu.edu
Jack Hahn hahn@sura.net
Neil Haller nmh@bellcore.com
Ellen Hoffman esh@merit.edu
Borka Jerman-Blazic jerman-blazic@ijs.ac.mail.yu
Charles Kaufman kaufman@dsmail.enet.dec.com
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Mark Knopper mak@merit.edu
Kenneth Laube laube@bbn.com
Mark Lewis mlewis@telebit.com
John Linn linn@zendia.enet.dec.com
Brian Lloyd brian@ray.lloyd.com
Glenn McGregor ghm@merit.edu
Dave Monachello dave@pluto.dss.com
J. Bradford Parker brad@cayman.com
Brad Passwaters bjp@sura.net
Marsha Perrott mlp+@andrew.cmu.edu
Allan Rubens acr@merit.edu
Jeffrey Schiller jis@mit.edu
Robert Shirey shirey@mitre.org
William Simpson Bill_Simpson@um.cc.umich.edu
Frank Slaughter fgs@shiva.com
Eric Smith
Richard Smith smiddy@pluto.dss.com
Michael St. Johns stjohns@umd5.umd.edu
Theodore Tso tytso@mit.edu
Wengyik Yeong yeongw@psi.com
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