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- Summary: This posting contains a list of Frequently Asked Questions
- (and their answers) about Model and High Power Consumer Rocketry
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- INTRODUCTION TO REC.MODELS.ROCKETS AND THIS FAQ
-
- Rec.models.rockets (r.m.r) is a Usenet newsgroup oriented towards
- discussions and topics related to non-professional rocketry of all types.
- All questions, comments, and ongoing discussions related to non-professional
- rocketry are welcome.
-
- This FAQ (list of Frequently Asked Questions) is an attempt to compile a
- number of questions and suggestions that have been repeatedly posted to
- r.m.r into a single, quickly readable document. This document was NOT
- meant to be a 'how to' on any form of non-professional rocketry It's hoped
- that it might be of use in answering some of the more commonly asked questions,
- summarizing some good tips and suggestions, and directing the reader to
- other documents, books, sources, etc., where more information may be found.
- However, the FAQ has evolved into something monstrous (and very informative).
- For this reason, only this introduction and the first three sections of the
- FAQ will be regularly posted. The entire FAQ will make its appearance on
- r.m.r. from time to time, and as some frequently asked questions start
- appearing in great numbers.
- The entire FAQ is available on the web, and by anonymous FTP at the
- rec.models.rockets archive (see addresses elsewhere).
- This FAQ is organized as a list of primary topics (see the Table of
- Contents below) with a number of questions and answers under each. The
- majority of this document deals with, but is not limited to, consumer
- rocketry in the United States and Canada.
-
- This entire FAQ is available on the web!!! All 16 Sections of it!!!
- HTML version of the entire FAQ:
- http://dtm-corp.com/~sven/rockets/rmrfaq.toc.html
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- ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
-
- This document was originally compiled (with much help from many others)
- by Buzz McDermott and Jack Hagerty. This document is now maintained and
- edited by Wolfram v.Kiparski with a lot of help from others. This FAQ would
- not be possible without the constant flow of tips, suggestions, and sound
- advice from the readership of rec.models.rockets.
- Comments, corrections and suggestions for additions are welcomed and encouraged.
- Please send your suggestions to:
-
- Wolfram v.Kiparski wolf@netheaven.com
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- or send them to the editor of the portion of the FAQ for which you have
- a comment. The FAQ editors are:
-
- Part 01: Buzz McDermott (buzzman@netcom.com)
- Part 02: Wolfram v.Kiparski (wolf@NetHeaven.com)
- Part 03: Wolfram v.Kiparski
- Part 04: Wolfram v.Kiparski
- Part 05: Wolfram v.Kiparski
- Part 06: Robert C. Santore (santore@ibm.net)
- Part 07: Peter Alway (PeteAlway@aol.com)
- Part 08: Bob Kaplow (Robert_Kaplow@hccompare.com)
- Part 09: Wolfram v.Kiparski
- Part 10: Wolfram v.Kiparski
- Part 11: Wolfram v.Kiparski
- Part 12: Jerry Irvine (jjirvine@cyberg8t.com)
- Part 13: Canada: John LeBlanc <john.pierre.leblanc@sympatico.ca>
- Australia: Rob Masters (rdm@perv.metapro.com.au)
- United Kingdom: Alex Seltsikas (ASELTSIK@uk.oracle.com)
- New Zealand: who knows?
- Germany: Stefan Wimmer (sw@cellware.de)
- Part 14: Wolfram von Kiparski
- -------------------------------------------
-
- ***** PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING *****
-
- Many of the tips and suggestions included in this FAQ include references to
- particular companies and/or products. Opinions expressed are those of the
- submitters. Several submitters have asked that readers do not request
- the company names and addresses from them. PLEASE refer to Part 2 of the
- FAQ or a recent issue of one of the rocketry magazines. You may also post
- an address request to r.m.r., but be forewarned that you may get chastised
- if you have failed to read the FAQ, or one of the other sources of addresses,
- first. Most of the submitters are happy to answer questions about their ideas
- and suggestions, but PLEASE don't ask them for names and addresses of
- suppliers. Check this FAQ first.
-
- -----------------------------------------
- TABLE OF CONTENTS
- REC.MODELS.ROCKETS FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
-
-
- ###PART 01: GENERAL INFORMATION
-
- 1.1 What, exactly, is a 'model rocket' versus a 'high power' rocket? Where do
- liquid fueled and homemade rocket motors fit in? What about amateur rockets?
- 1.2 NFPA, FAA, DOT, ... Who are all these organizations and how do they
- affect the rocketry hobby?
- 1.3 What is the current legal status of model and high power rocketry in the U.S.?
- 1.4 I would like to get into Large Model Rockets. What are my options?
- Who has NAR certified E, F and G motors today?
- 1.5 Is the proper term rocket 'engine' or rocket 'motor'?
- 1.6 What do the letters and numbers on a model rocket motor mean?
- 1.7 What is a CATO? Is it CATO pronounced KAY-TO or CAT-O?
- 1.8 When a consumer rocket motor fails (i.e., CATOs) does it explode or
- detonate?
- 1.9 Why don't I just make my own model rocket motors? Shouldn't I be able
- to custom-make better, more powerful motors at a cheaper price?
-
-
- ### PART 02: NAMES AND ADDRESSES
-
- 2.1 National rocketry organizations
- 2.2 Rocketry manufacturers and suppliers
- 2.2.1 Model and High Power Rocket Manufacturers
- kits/motors/supplies/etc.
- 2.2.2 Electronics/Recovery Systems/Other Rocketry Components and Supplies
- 2.2.3 Miscellaneous suppliers of raw materials, supplies, and equipment
- 2.2.4 Mail Order Vendors
- 2.2.5 Sources for Out-of-Production Model Rocket Kits
- 2.2.6 Books/Videos/Computer Software/Technical References
- 2.2.7 International (outside U.S.A.) rocketry sources
- 2.3 Rocketry books
- 2.4 Rocketry magazines
-
-
- ### PART 03: ROCKETRY ON THE INTERNET
-
- 3.1 How do I get to the r.m.r archive site?
- 3.2 What is available from the r.m.r archive?
- 3.3 How do I upload files to the r.m.r. archive?
- 3.4 What if I don't have ftp or www access? Can I still get to files from the
- r.m.r archive?
- 3.5 I have read-only access to r.m.r. Is there any way I can still post
- articles to the newsgroup?
- 3.6 What are .ps files? How can I read them?
- 3.7 What are some neat rocketry web pages to check out?
-
-
- ### PART 04: BORN-AGAIN ROCKETEERS
-
- 4.1 What the heck is a BAR, 'Born Again Rocketeer'?
- 4.2 I have been out of model rockets for many (i.e. <nn>+) years now.
- What been happening in the hobby over the past couple of decades?
- What's new? What's gone?
- 4.2.1 Who's Left, Who's Not & Who's New
- 4.2.2 Changes in Motor Technology
- 4.2.3 Competition
- 4.2.4 High Power Rocketry
- 4.2.5 Electronics Advancements
- 4.2.6 Regulations, Regulations, Regulations
- 4.3 Are my old rocket kits worth anything today?
- 4.4 Where can I find plans of old kits?
-
-
- ### PART 05: MODEL ROCKETRY
-
- 5.1 Can I legally fly model rockets in my state? What are the restrictions?
- 5.2 When do I need to notify the FAA before flying a large model rocket?
- 5.3 I have a son/daughter that is (less than 9) years old. Is this too
- young for model rocketry? If not, are there any tips for helping to
- keep their interest in the hobby?
- 5.4 Is there any way I can buy model rocket kits, parts and engines at less
- than full retail?
- 5.5 I've had a large number of motors CATO recently. The engines are only
- about 2 years old. I've had them stored in my (attic/garage/basement).
- 5.6 Is it safe to use my old rocket engines from <nn> years ago?
- 5.7 What's a good way to find other rocket enthusiasts in my area? How can
- I found out about local rocket clubs?
- 5.8 Are the Aerotech composite motors the same size as Estes/MRC/Quest
- motors?
- 5.9 Can I use Aerotech or other composite motors in my Estes rockets?
- 5.10 Will my Estes launch system work with Aerotech composite motors?
- 5.11 Can I use Aerotech composite motors as boosters in my multi-stage
- rockets?
- 5.12 How can I tell the age of my Estes motors?
- 5.13 Are reloadable model rocket motors shippable the same as disposable
- model rocket motors?
- 5.14 My flying field is so small I keep losing my rockets. What can I do?
- 5.15 Are Jetex engines still available? Where can I get them?
- 5.16 BT-20, BT-50, BT-55. What the heck do the numbers mean on Estes body
- tubes? Is their any special meaning in these numbers?
- 5.17 I've seen mention of all kinds of rocket motor types and sizes. Could
- you give a brief history and summary of the main marketing names for
- model rocket motors?
- 5.18 Why don't I just make my own model rocket motors? Shouldn't I be able
- to custom-make better, more powerful motors at a cheaper price?
-
-
- ### PART 06: ROCKET CONSTRUCTION AND FINISHING TIPS
-
- 6.1 Cutting, Sealing, Attaching Fins
- 6.2 Body Tubes (Cutting, Joining, Filling)
- 6.3 I'm fed up with tangled plastic parachutes with broken shroud lines. How
- can I improve on the standard chutes, or make my own?
- 6.4 Alternatives to Recovery Wadding
- 6.5 Are there any good tips when making my own nose cones?
- 6.6 Getting Paint to Stick to LOC and Aerotech Nose Cones
- 6.7 Is it possible to get a high gloss, durable finish on a model rocket?
- 6.8 Are there any good paints for silver details on scale models?
- 6.9 How can I prevent a rocket painted white from yellowing?
- 6.10 Which is better, white or yellow glue? Epoxy? Cyano?
- 6.11 Improving on the Estes Shock Cord Mount
- 6.12 I've built several BT-80 based models. How can I strengthen future
- models to take larger motors, such as Aerotech 24mm or 29mm reloads?
- 6.13 How can I prevent balsa fins from breaking off on landing (especially
- for models with swept fins)?
- 6.14 I just lost my favorite rocket and the kit is discontinued. How can I
- make another one just like it?
- 6.15 How can I reduce damage to the booster stage of two stage models caused
- by the engine exhaust of the second stage?
- 6.16 Is there a way to increase the stability of nearly finless models?
- 6.17 How can I build a rocket with less wind resistance?
-
-
- ### PART 07: SCALE MODELING
-
- 7.1 I would like to make a scale model of the <??> rocket. Where do I
- start looking for technical data, dimensions, flight substantiation data, etc.?
- 7.2 What are some specific sources for general scale data?
- 7.3 I've never built any scale models. Are there any recommended kits for
- first timers?
- 7.4 What other scale/sport scale kits are available? I'd like to build
- another kit or two before tackling a scratch scale project.
- 7.5 O.K., I've done all my research, collected all the data I can.
- I've even built a couple of scale kits a a warm up. Now I'm ready
- to build a model I can be proud of. How do I...?
- 7.6 What tools do I need?
- 7.7 Where can I get more information on modeling techniques?
- 7.8 Got any tips for generating scale plans from original dimensions?
-
-
- ### PART 08: BOOST GLIDERS AND ROCKET GLIDERS
-
- 8.1 R/C Rocket Gliders
- 8.1.1 Have there been any construction reviews of R/C rocket gliders?
- 8.1.2 I'm building the 'XXX' R/C Rocket Glider and it uses foam core wings.
- Are there any things I should know about working with foam?
- 8.1.3 Any tips for sheeting the wings on my Aerotech Phoenix?
- 8.1.4 How about help with my Estes Astroblaster wings?
- 8.1.5 How do you repair damaged foam wings?
- 8.1.6 Some more uses of foam in rocketry...
- 8.1.7 I need to cut the piano wire control rods. Bolt cutters don't work
- well, as the metal is too hard. Any ideas?
- 8.2 Free Flight Boost and Rocket Gliders
- 8.2.1 What is the difference between a Boost/Glider and a Rocket/Glider?
- 8.2.2 What are some types of gliders?
- 8.2.3 What are all these funny names I see referenced?
- 8.2.4 I'm just starting. What kits or plans are available?
- 8.2.5 Why do most gliders have the rudder under the fuselage?
- 8.2.6 These things are very different from what I've built before.
- Are there any tips for building them?
- 8.2.7 Should I paint my glider?
- 8.2.8 Can I convert a hand launched glider (HLG) to rocket power?
- 8.2.9 I'd like to design my own glider. How do I know if it will work?
- How do I compute the CP for a glider?
- 8.2.10 What motor should I use to fly my glider?
- 8.2.11 This thing looks weird sitting on the pad.
- How do I launch a glider?
- 8.2.12 My glider looped and crashed into the ground. What is wrong?
- 8.2.13 My glider shredded. What is wrong?
- 8.2.14 The pod stuck on my boost/glider and the thing crashed. What is wrong?
- 8.2.15 My glider glides like the space shuttle (or worse). What is wrong?
- 8.2.16 My glider never came down and flew away. What is wrong?
- 8.2.17 References: (kits, books, publications, catalogs)
-
- ### PART 09: COMPETITION AND RECORDS
-
- 9.1 I would like to get into competition. I would prefer to start with kits rather than
- designing and building my own. Are there any manufacturers making kits specifically
- designed for competition?
- 9.2 What are the major categories of competition model rocketry?
- 9.3 What are some good events to try when first getting into competition? Any 'sage'
- advice?
- 9.4 What is a 'piston' launcher? Does it really help?
- 9.5 Aside from hanging around 'old timers', how can I learn more about competition
- strategies and techniques without re-inventing the wheel many times over?
- 9.6 Tripoli Altitude Records
- 9.7 NAR Altitude Records
- 9.8 Some Unofficial High Power Altitude Attempts
- 9.9 Biggest Non-metallic Rocket Flights
- 9.10 Other Non-professional Flights of Note
- 9.11 Some other highest verified altitudes
-
-
- ### PART 10: HIGH POWER ROCKETRY
-
- 10.1 I'm a successful model rocketeer. What do I need to get into HPR?
- 10.2 What are the major differences between model and high power rockets,
- besides size and engines? Are they built differently?
- 10.3 How do I get high power certified?
- 10.4 What is a 'reloadable' motor. Are they worth the price? Are they legal?
- 10.5 What are these different 'types' of composite motors I hear about (White
- Lightning, Black Jack, Smokey Sam, etc.)?
- 10.6 What's an FAA waiver? Which rocket flights require one?
- This section includes the relevant parts of FAR 101.
- 10.7 OK. I want to fly some high power rockets. How do I get an FAA waiver?
- 10.8 Is high power rocketry legal in every state, if the proper forms are
- obtained?
- 10.9 Where do I find out the proper way to use HPR rockets and motors? I'm
- familiar with the NAR Model Rocketry Sporting Code. Is there an HPR
- equivalent?
- 10.10 What are some good kits to build when first getting into high power
- rocketry (assuming I have all of the basic model rocketry skills)?
- 10.11 When is a Federal Low Explosives Permit required?
- 10.12 How do I get an LEUP? Are there any requirements?
- 10.13 How is thermalite affected by the ATF regulatory enforcement?
- 10.14 How can I get the Orange Book (explaining the ATF explosive laws
- and regulations) and the proper LEUP forms?
- 10.15 Just what is a 'hybrid' rocket motor? Who makes them?
-
-
- ### PART 11: HIGH POWER CONSTRUCTION TECHNIQUES
-
- 11.1 Do you have any tips for cutting and sealing fins used on HPR rockets?
- 11.2 How do you keep in a high power motor in its mount, but still allow
- for the numerous lengths in which HPR motors are sold?
- 11.3 Custom Decals for High Power Rockets
- 11.4 I've had several rocket body tubes ruined by the shock cord tearing
- into the body tube at ejection and making long slits. How can I
- prevent this?
- 11.5 Estes 'toilet paper' recovery wadding strikes me as a bit wrong for HPR
- rockets. What are some alternatives?
- 11.6 What are the differences between the various HPR body tube materials
- used by the 'major' HPR manufacturers?
- 11.7 How can I strengthen my thick paper (i.e., LOC type) body tubes?
- 11.8 Is there any way to retrofit my existing rockets to have some type of
- positive retention system?
- 11.9 All these high power motors are different sizes. How do I hold
- them in? What do I use for a motor block and where should I put it?
-
-
- ### PART 12: IGNITION AND LAUNCH SYSTEM TIPS
-
- 12.1 Copperhead, squib, electric match, thermalite, flash bulb. What are
- all these types of igniters, how much current do they require, and
- when are they used?
- 12.2 How do those 'Copperhead' igniters work? They only have one wire?
- 12.3 I've heard that Copperhead igniters are 'unreliable' for igniting HPR
- motors. Is that true?
- 12.4 Do you have any specific suggestions or tips for an ignition power
- sources? Can I use my old Estes ignition system with composite models?
- 12.5 WARNING: Be very careful using any ignition system with 'flashbulb' or
- electric match type igniters.
- 12.6 The ignition of rockets by other than electrical means is banned by both
- the NAR and Tripoli safety codes and should not be used.
- 12.7 What is thermalite fuse and how is it involved in igniting rocket motors?
- 12.8 How do you ignite second stage composite motors? Can I use a black
- powder booster for the first stage to ignite the second (as I do
- with multi-state A-D rockets)?
- 12.9 What is 'flash in the pan' ignition and for what is it useful in rocketry?
- 12.10 I would like to perfect a method for reliable ignition of clustered multi-
- stage rockets. Any suggestions or tips?
- 12.11 How do I cluster rocket motors? When igniting a cluster of rocket
- motors, should the igniters be wired in parallel or in series? Why?
- 12.12 I am new to rocketry. I was wondering whether anyone has tried
- using waterproof wicks instead of igniters to ignite a rocket engine.
- 12.13 The alligator clips on my launch system have worn out. What should I
- use to replace them?
- 12.14 Other Ignition Tips:
-
-
- ### PART 13: INTERNATIONAL ROCKETRY
-
- 13.1 Rocketry in Australia
- 13.1.1 What rules apply to model rocketry in Australia?
- 13.1.2 What are good sources of model rocketry kits/wg's/parts, etc.?
- 13.1.3 Are there any regular rocket contests, launches, clubs, etc.?
- 13.1.4 Info on amateur groups/activities (such as AusRoc) in the
- Australia.
-
- 13.2 Rocketry in Canada
- 13.2.1 Are there any national organizations to which I can join in Canada?
- What services do they offer?
- 13.2.2 What kinds of rockets (model and/or high power) are legal to fly in
- Canada?
- 13.2.3 Are there any High Power launches at all in Canada?
- 13.2.4 What kinds of rocket motors are available for purchase in Canada?
- 13.2.5 Are there any Canadian mail order houses where I can purchase model
- rocket kits, motors and supplies?
-
- 13.3 Rocketry in the United Kingdom
- 13.3.1 Is model rocketry legal in the UK?
- 13.3.2 What size model rockets can be flown?
- 13.3.3 What model rockets are available?
- 13.3.4 What types of engines are available?
- 13.3.5 Where can I buy model rockets?
- 13.3.6 Are there any events/competitions?
- 13.3.7 Are there any clubs?
- 13.3.8 What are addresses of some of the shops that carry model rocketry?
- 13.3.9 What are some of the rocket clubs in the U.K., and do they have any
- problems getting permission to fly their rockets?
-
- 13.4 Rocketry in South Africa
-
- 13.5 Rocketry in New Zealand
-
- 13.6 Rocketry in Germany
- 13.6.1 German Explosives Law
- 13.6.2 German Aviation Regulations
- 13.6.3 What Rockets and Motors can I buy and use in Germany?
- 13.6.4 Clustering and Staging
- 13.6.5 Can I make my own rocket motors?
- 13.6.6 Can I use rocket motors made for display fireworks?
- 13.6.7 Importing Rockets, Parts and Motors
- 13.6.8 Where can I launch my Rockets?
- 13.6.9 Where can I launch rockets with bigger motors?
- 13.6.10 What Insurance do I need?
- 13.6.11 Addresses of Rocketry-related Clubs
-
-
- ### PART 14: AMATEUR ROCKETRY
-
- 14.1 DISCLAIMER
- 14.2 How do I make my own rocket motors?
- 14.3 My primary interest is in amateur rocketry.
- Where can I find information about amateur rocketry?
- 14.4 Amateur rocketry on the Internet
- 14.5 Manufacturers, suppliers, publishers, and consultants
-
-
-