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From: wcgreen@cris.com (Wendy Chatley Green)
Newsgroups: misc.writing,news.answers,misc.answers
Subject: [misc.writing] Posting Guidelines (modified 10/96)
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Posting-Frequency: weekly (Monday) to misc.writing;
monthly (3rd Monday) to *.answers
Last-modified: 10.96
URL: http://www.scalar.com/mw/
THE PURPOSE OF MISC.WRITING AND OUR PROTOCOL
This group was established for the discussion of the business of
writing/editing/publishing. It has evolved also into a place for
those in the industry to kick off their shoes and chat.
misc.writing Posting Conventions
In a vote, the majority of people that voted in January of 1995
agreed with these conventions. The vote request was only posted
in misc.writing. Anybody can come through the door here. Most
people are welcomed. A few are flamed or killfiled. There are
ways to avoid that. If you want to avoid being jumped on, I have
a few suggestions.
Read the FAQs, all of which are posted weekly, lurk the
newsgroup for a week or so, and then jump in. Our culture is
pretty much the same as the rest of the 'Net, except that we
are a bit more active about defining and defending it than some
places. Make yourself at home.
Questions and answers: Don't ask any questions that are
answered in the FAQ. If you're going to answer someone's
question, try to be reasonably accurate and to offer
information no one else has mentioned.
Discussions: Try to be intelligent, reasonable, polite,
amusing if possible, as succinct as you can manage, and
informative.
Chatter: Same as above, with more stress on amusing. If all
you have to say is "right on", "you go, girl" or "ditto", send it via
e-mail.
Arguments: Try not to. Sometimes it's hard to tell when a
discussion verges into an argument; sometimes it's really
tempting to flame back. People will forgive an angry post or two
(again, as long as it's intelligent, reasonable, polite, etc.)
Announcements, market tips, etc.: Keep them short and
relevant. Don't be too commercial, i.e. don't say "This
book is available for $99.95; you can send cheque or money
order to such-and-such address, or call such-and-such number, we
take VISA, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover. . . ."
Worst of all is a form with "fill-in-the-blank" lines for printing out
and mailing. Much better to say "If anyone here is interested in
this, contact me by email and I'll tell you how to get my book."
Writing samples: Definitely don't. Post them to
rec.arts.prose or rec.arts.poems, or maybe alt.prose or some
of the other alt.* groups. If everyone posted their samples
here, the informative posts would be drowned in a tide of
bandwidth.
We talk about writing techniques, style, language, grammar,
semantics, story or article construction, plot, theme, genre,
markets, submission tips, news about particular editors or
publishers, manuscript tips, writing software, and a certain
amount of how we feel about writing, or how we survive it.
Basically anything relating to the study, practise, or
lifestyle of writing.
What we prefer not to talk about here are *subjects* of writing. We
really could not care less about political diatribes, old girlfriends,
books about cooking or architecture or whatever. The purpose of this
newsgroup does not include the topic of every other newsgroup on the
'Net. We talk about subjects in the context of talking about
markets, but that's about it. For example, while political crap will
bore and annoy people, a discussion about speechwriting would be
on-topic.
In particular, paradoxical as it may seem, a lot of us are sick of
hearing about the Internet. A number of writers only grudgingly
accept technology in their lives, which is why we have discussions of
bizarre things like fountain pens and the right kind of paper and
binding for a journal. Not to say we won't help someone who is lost
or confused about things technical but we do need a break from all
this stuff.
We ask that profanity be kept to a minimum (as we know at least one
high school writing class reads our group regularly) or that you
use * in place of vowels. No, this request is not meant to
censor, just a request to "keep it clean and fun" and to give
everyone a chance to expand their vocabulary beyond the bovine
feces that goes on in every-day conversations.
When responding to a thread, please be sure to reference the
correct subject so that others will know that the posts
are related. When you change the focus or change the subject
completely, please re-name your post with (was "old thread
subject title") following your new title.
Example:
Old Thread = What I had for Lunch Today
New Thread = I hate Twinkies (was: What I had for Lunch Today)
When using a portion of another post in your own post (quoting),
please be sure to correctly attribute the original poster. It is very
important not to "put words in someone else's mouth". If a mistake is
made, please correct it and apologize. We all know that news readers
are quirky and sometimes attribute nested post references to the wrong
person, so take care when quoting.
FLAMING AND NETIQUETTE
As misc.writing wants to be considered the friendliest group on
the net, flaming, trolling and spamming are considered
inappropriate and in bad taste/form. No personal attacks should
be made on a fellow poster (by name or nickname or address) in
your posts. If you disagree with another person's opinion,
write that person via e-mail to discuss your personal differences
and DO NOT post your disputes/arguments/flames. You are free to
post your own opinion as a separate post in and of itself. It
helps newbies, lurkers, and established writers see that the
publishing industry gives us all different experiences and points
of view on our many subjects.
If you disagree with the content of someone else's post as
incorrect or inappropriate and you have *facts* to support it, or
wish to discuss it further on the group and can do so without defaming
the original poster's character, feel free to respond. Please use the
rules of logic and common sense as well as common courtesy.
Remember words have more than one meaning and they are apt to be
misinterpreted. There is a difference between American and British
English as well as the English of someone using it as a second
language. You may want to ask yourself or the original poster if your
impression of the post is correct.
If you see a person posting a blatant flame, personal attack, or
an inappropriate business advertisement to all groups, DO NOT
RESPOND TO THE POST ON THE GROUP. Gently remind the poster (via
e-mail) that such posts are not permitted and to please
discontinue the practice. By responding to these things by e-mail
instead of on the group, we are able to allow the post to die in
a relatively short time and for the person/organization to get
the hint that no one is interested in such trash.
Be aware that some software does not allow the correction of
misspellings or the editing of posts (short of starting
over). Do not correct spelling or grammar--e-mail
the author directly. Be prepared to converse fluently in
their native language if it turns out that English is their
second language.
We all have our pet peeves, but try to be civil when pointing out
mistakes of these kinds.
THE COCKTAIL PARTY CONVERSATIONS IN OUR
VIRTUAL COMMUNITY OF MISC.WRITINGVILLE
The purpose of the "misc.writingville" or "MWVille" section of
misc.writing is to give the busy writer a place to "play" and unwind
from the stresses of deadlines and writer's block. Posts may mirror
into the regular discussions going on in the rest of the group, the
world at large, or you can make it up as you go. The only
"restrictions" are these:
1. The header of a MWVille posts should start with "MWV:".
Some people are not interested in the off-topic foolishness that can
occur in MWVille and the prefix will warn them away.
2. It is highly recommended that your post be humorous,
entertaining, or at least thought-provoking.
3. Please--reserve the "MWV" header prefix for MWVille posts.
Anyone may participate in "MWV" mode but you might want to read at
least part of the history of misc.writingville, which holds part of
the established cast of characters, streets, businesses and houses,
etc. This is on the misc.writing home page:
http://www.scalar.com/mw/
Soon, the MWV City Directory will be posted on this page; the
Directory is a listing of (almost) everyone and everything that has
appeared in MWVille.
Feel free to create your own character for our community or to join
others in a saga. Your creativity and wit are your only limits (or
not, as the case may be).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
These guidelines were originally posted by Alexander von Thorn
in response to a newcomer's questions regarding misc.writing's
conventions. More recently the duty was performed by M Barnard.
Erin Barrett-Hamner followed on the duty roster. Wendy Chatley
Green (wcgreen@cris.com) now maintains the misc.writing FAQs.
All suggestions, comments, and criticism should be sent to her.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--
Wendy Chatley Green -- wcgreen@cris.com