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- alt.sysadmin.recovery FAQ v0.53 (Oct 1, 1997)
-
- This is the frequently asked questions for alt.sysadmin.recovery, a newsgroup
- for practicing and recovering system administrators.
-
- Html versions of this document may be found at
- http://ugrad-www.cs.colorado.edu/~crosby/asr/faq.html
- or
- http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/~ingvar/asr/
-
- 1) ABOUT THE GROUP
-
- 1.1) What is alt.sysadmin.recovery?
- 1.2) Notes on reading ASR
- 1.3) Special note RE: alt.humor.best-of-usenet
- 1.4) What is not welcome on alt.sysadmin.recovery?
- 1.5) What does BOFH mean? How about LART? Cow-orker?
- 1.6) Where can I find the BOFH?
- 1.7) The BOFH hierarchy
- 1.8) Official ASR mottos
- 1.9) Official anagrams of ASR.
- 1.10) Hail Eris! Sysadmin Religion
- 1.11) Songs to drink to
- 1.12) Man pages
- 1.13) ASR organizations
- 1.14) So what's with the INTJ and stuff?
- 1.15) I hate this group! Where do I complain?
- 1.16) ASR Luser of the year
-
- 2) ABOUT OUR FINE PROFESSION
-
- 2.1) I want to be a sysadmin. What should I do?
- 2.2) So, I've just "volunteered" to be a sysadmin. What do I do?
- 2.3) Where do sysadmins rank as a profession?
- 2.4) How are new sysadmins made?
- 2.5) What's a typical day in the life of a sysadmin?
- 2.6) Why can't I find my sysadmin?
- 2.7) What sort of music do sysadmins listen to???
-
- 3) OUR LITTLE FRIEND, THE COMPUTER
-
- 3.1) Are there any OS's that don't suck?
- 3.2) How about any hardware?
- 3.3) Just HOW MUCH does this system suck?
- 3.4) Where can I find cluefull tech support?
- 3.5) What can I do to help my computers behave?
- 3.6) What's with the AOL disks?
- 3.7) What can I do with all these CD Roms?
-
- 4) OUR BIG HEADACHE, THE LUSERS
-
- 4.1) Where can I find stories about the little bastards?
- 4.2) I'm work for tech support. Where can I find cluefull customers?
- 4.3) General luser interaction
- 4.4) What is the best way to deal with lusers?
- 4.5) Revolvers, cyanide and high voltages: The pros and cons of
- various luser education strategies.
- 4.6) How can I clean up the mess made by a lusers brain splattered across
- a monitor?
- 4.7) What is the penalty for murdering a luser?
- 4.8) How much should I charge for holding their hands?
-
- 5) DEALING WITH BEING A SYSADMIN
-
- 5.1) Caffeine and other Recreational Pharmaceuticals
- 5.2) The excuse server
- 5.3) The insults server
- 5.4) Should I slit my wrists across or downwards?
- 5.5) Sysadmin Tools
- 5.6) Psychiatric Assistance
-
- 6) OK, SERIOUSLY FOLKS! HELP!!!!!
-
- 6.1) Serious info about being a sysadmin
- 6.2) DOODZ!!!!!! W3R3 CAN 1 F1ND SUM K3WL WAREZ???????????
-
- 7) OTHER RESOURCES
-
- 7.1) If you like ASR, you'll love...
-
- -----
-
- 1) OVERVIEW
-
- 1.1) What is alt.sysadmin.recovery?
-
- Alt.sysadmin.recovery is for discussion by recovered and recovering sysadmins.
- It is a forum for mutual support and griping over idiot lusers, stupid
- tech support, brain dead hardware and generally how stupid this idiotic job
- is. Think of it as a virtual pub, where we can all go after hours and
- gripe about our job. Since the concept of "after hours" (or, for that
- matter, "pubs") is an anathema for your average sysadmin, we have this
- instead.
-
- 1.2) Notes on reading ASR
-
- Some have warned that reading ASR while drinking beverages is to be avoided.
- [due to the effects of beverage on keyboards on computers]
-
- ASR, is by its nature a fairly free-wheeling group. Nevertheless, it is
- also a very busy one. We would like to ask, therefore, that you respect
- this. Please try and keep subject lines relatively up to date, so people
- can kill threads. Please avoid 1 line "me toos", yes, we know you are
- smart, young, old, had trouble in school, enjoyed school, never went to
- college, use vi, use emacs, hate vi or emacs, read Robert Heinlein, have
- a cool home page and practice martial arts. Please don't tell us about it.
- Also, please keep threads out of here that might explode--hot topics like
- gun control. (Anyone else start THAT flamewar, I WILL personally ensure
- that David Rhodes, Robert McElwaine, Canter and Siegel and Serdar Argic
- _all_ get accounts on your system. I'm serious.)
-
- Oh, the "When I was a kid I had to bang two rocks together to get zeros" has
- got especially old. Give it a rest.
-
- 1.3) Special note RE: alt.humor.best-of-usenet
-
- Please don't resend things to alt.humor.best-of-usenet. We have nothing
- against this group itself, but in the past we have averaged a few messages
- a day there. This has drawn the lusers here like moths to a candle.
-
- 1.4) What is not welcome on alt.sysadmin.recovery?
-
- Not welcome on alt.sysadmin.recovery are: holy wars, advocacy, user
- questions, users (unless you are a sysadmin in another life), David Rhodes
- or general cluelessness.
-
- Particularly not welcome is ANY real sysadmin related stuff. We
- are here to escape!
-
- Warning: If you are a user, you may well see your sysadmin posting messages
- about how stupid YOU are. You have been warned.
-
- 1.5) What does BOFH mean? How about LART? Cow-orker?
-
- BOFH
-
- Bastard Operator From Hell. Our role model.
- (The Bastard Operator from Hell was originally a series of stories written
- by Simon Travaglia, s.travaglia@waikato.ac.nz. See 1.6.)
-
- LART
-
- Luser Attitude Re-Adjustment Tool. Something large, heavy and painful--
- See the sysadmin tool section.
-
- Cow-Orker:
-
- Those people who live at the same office as you do. (WARNING: Orking Cows
- is dangerous, and illegal in the state of Utah)
-
- Cop-rogrammer:
-
- A Cow-Orker who rograms cops.
-
- C|N>K
-
- This, along with variants, is similar to ROFL in other less cultured groups.
- (hint: C is coffee, N is nose, K is keyboard.)
-
- 1.6) Where can I read about the BOFH?
-
- http://prime-mover.cc.waikato.ac.nz/Bastard.html
- A UK mirror may be found at http://pertinax.gp.umist.ac.uk/bofh/
- A US mirror may be found at
- http://www.jungle.com/msattler/culture/humor/geek/bastard/index.html
- or
- http://www.pinhead.com/bofh.html
-
- Newer adventures of the BOFH may be found at
- http://www.networkweek.com/bofh.shtml
-
- 1.7) The BOFH hierarchy
-
- ASR is such a cool newsgroup, we even have our own hierarchy! Try that,
- soc.singles!
- This is the bofh.* hierarchy.
- For more information, see http://dehouse.on.default.net/bofh.html
-
- 1.8) Official ASR mottos
-
- The official ASR motto, our catch phrase, is the immortal:
-
- "Down, not Across"
-
- It is our mantra. We recite it to ourselves as we deal with the day
- to day realities of a life that is far more nasty, brutish and short
- then even Hobbes could ever imagine.
-
- Some other mottos include:
-
- "What was your username?" *clickety click*
- "I need a drink."
- AAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
-
- The official asr position:
-
- Hiding in a corner, under a desk, in fetal position, arms covering head
- and quietly whimpering.
-
- The official asr luser position:
-
- 6 foot under.
-
- 1.9) Official ASR anagrams
-
- Every now again, some luser will come in and ask for an explanation of
- ASR anagrams. I haven't the faintest idea why. Here's some good ones:
-
- alt sysadmin recovery
- rancid mystery loaves
- steady micron slavery
- comedy striven salary
- trendy mosaic slavery
- convert already missy
- scary devil monastery
-
- 1.10) Hail Eris! Sysadmin Religion
-
- By popular acclaim, Eris has been declared patron goddess of ASR, with
- Murphy as patron saint. The Illuminatus Trilogy (Robert Anton Wilson
- and Robert Shea) will tell you more of her secrets.
-
- Of course, don't let this put you off. ASR is a very tolerant group, and
- we will accept anything you worship, provided your beliefs fit the requirements
- for a good sysadmin god, the most important one being that sacrifice of lusers
- be an integral part of worship.
- (The Aztec gods are very nice in this respect).
-
- 1.11) Songs to drink to
-
- ASR has many talented budding creative artists who have come up with a
- collection of deep, heart wrenching statements on the nihilism of this
- sysadmin existence. Including such gems as the cynical "I'm a sysadmin
- and I'm OK", and the reflective "My favorite things", _The Best of ASR_
- will be coming out real soon now on Sony, 12.99 CD, 7.99 Cassette.
-
- Until this happens, you can find these songs at
- http://ugrad-www.cs.colorado.edu/~crosby/asr/songs.html
-
- 1.12) Man pages
-
- The ASR man page collection is a comprehensive reference to many of the
- things we have to deal with in our profession.
-
- See http://www.winternet.com/~eric/sysadmin/manpages.html
-
- 1.13) ASR organizations
-
- There have been a few organizations formed around ASR, notably the bofh.org.*
- domain.
-
- bofh.org.uk:
-
- If you would like to have an address in this, you can find the
- requirements at http://ugrad-www.cs.colorado.edu/~crosby/asr/bofh.uk
- In short, you should send mail and a rant to apply@bofh.org.uk
-
- bofh.mi.org:
-
- The Michigan chapter. Send mail to apply@bofh.mi.org with a proof of
- michiganess and a nice rant.
-
-
- 1.14) So what's with the INTJ and stuff?
-
- These are Keirsey scores. See http://sunsite.unc.edu/personality/keirsey.html
- to find out yours.
-
- 1.15) I hate this group! Where do I complain?
-
- Probably you want the guys who run the net. Address mail to:
-
- Usenet Central Administration
- 1060 W. Addison St
- Chicago, IL 60613-4305
-
- They should be willing to help you out.
-
- 1.16) ASR Luser of the Year
-
- Yes, the awards are just in. Luser of the year this year goes to Judith
- Kraines, county controller in Reading, PA. From News of the Weird:
-
- * Reading, Pa., county controller Judith Kraines complained at a
- commissioners' meeting in January about having to type letters
- and do other business on a typewriter because her computer was
- old and no one had been able to get it to work for two years. "If
- we had a computer," she said, "letters would go out faster."
- Three days later, she announced that the computer she was
- complaining about in fact had not been plugged in to any
- electrical outlet and that when the plug was inserted and the
- computer was turned on, it worked fine.
-
- -----
-
- 2) ABOUT OUR FINE PROFESSION
-
- 2.1) I want to be a sysadmin. What should I do?
-
- Seek professional help.
-
- 2.2) So, I've just "volunteered" to be a sysadmin. What do I do?
-
- See 5.3
-
- 2.3) Where do sysadmins rank as a profession
-
- Somewhere below janitors.
-
- 2.4) How are new sysadmins made
-
- The devil probably has something to do with it.
-
- 2.5) What's a typical day in the life of a sysadmin
-
- For an excellent, if somewhat optimistic, picture of a sysadmins life,
- see http://lynx.dac.neu.edu:8000/~tfarrell/writings/life.of.a.sysadmin.html
-
- Perhaps Abby Franquemont-Guillory summarised the life of a sysadmin the best,
- when she described us as:
-
- "disgruntled, disenchanted with things we used to really get a kick out of,
- foul tempered, hard-drinking, heavy-smoking, overworked, with no real
- social life to speak of."
-
- 2.6) Why can't I find my sysadmin?
-
- Would you want to be found?
-
- 2.7) What sort of music do sysadmins listen to?
-
- This gets asked a lot. Probably all I can say is "loud", and even that isn't
- a given. A survey of the readership of ASR was taken, which may be found at
- http://ugrad-www.cs.colorado.edu/~crosby/asr/music
-
- -----
-
- 3) OUR LITTLE FRIEND, THE COMPUTER
-
- 3.1) Are there any OSs that don't suck?
-
- No.
-
- 3.2) How about any hardware?
-
- The PDP-10 was pretty nice. Pity they aren't common any more.
- [Ok. Still haven't got the exact year they stopped being made, but there
- IS a company that makes clones; Check out
- http://locke.ccil.org/retro/retromuseum.html for an emulator.]
-
- 3.3) Just HOW MUCH does this system suck?
-
- The ASR standard unit of suckiness is the Lovelace (Ll).
- This is defined as: One Lovelace is the amount of force (measured in
- dynes) it takes to draw a round ball weighing e Troy Ounces down a tube it
- fits exactly (in air) at a speed of pi attoparsecs/microfortnight.
-
- Like Farads, this is a rather large measurement.
- Thus, Plan 9 sucks a few mLl, for instance, while your
- average Microsoft product achieves many Ll.
-
- 3.4) Where can I find clueful tech support?
-
- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
-
- Basically, I think there is some device the telco puts on the phone that
- ensures that whoever is on the other end of a service call is always
- a drooling moron with the IQ of a potted plant. Note that this applies
- both ways (see 4.2)
-
- 3.5) What can I do to help my computers behave?
-
- Some go for the carrot approach, others the stick, others both. If you
- favour the carrot, try offering memory upgrades or faster processors.
- For sticks, try bullwhips. Many computers are easily fooled, so placing
- a picture of yourself in front of a computer will often cause it to think
- you are watching and it will be too scared to misbehave.
-
- Remember that if computers are networked, they can talk to each other.
- That is useful in that you can make an example of one and the others will
- watch (and hopefully learn).
-
- 3.6) What's with all the AOL disks?
-
- There is a large amount of speculation on this subject. Some have
- suggested that AOL is a secret alien plot to use up all the resources
- and overwhelm the earth with disks, to make mankind easier to conquer.
- Whatever the reason, they are useful as coasters and as scratch floppies,
- if nothing else.
-
- 3.7) What should I do with all these CD Roms?
-
- Shove them in a microwave for a minute or so, and watch the fun!
-
- -----
-
- 4) OUR LITTLE ENEMIES, THE LUSERS
-
- 4.1) Where can I find stories about the little bastards?
-
- [The stories are currently offline, as a result of the sysadmin
- who had them on his web site recovering]
-
- 4.2) I'm on tech support. Where can I find cluefull customers?
-
- See 3.4
-
- A cluefull luser is an oxymoron.
-
- 4.3) General User Interaction
-
- Some tips for general luser interaction:
- -lusers, bless their little hearts, have simple minds. Even if you think
- that a lobotomized flatworm could understand your instructions, your
- luser probably won't.
-
- -since lusers will neither read nor understand any docs you write for them,
- just don't even bother.
-
- -NEVER anthropomorphise lusers.
-
- -lusers are much easier to deal with if they aren't breathing.
-
- 4.4) What is the best way to deal with lusers?
-
- 240v across the heart, a revolver through the head, or even a simple little
- broadsword thrust into their abdomen will improve your interactions
- wonderfully. See 4.5
-
- 4.5) Revolvers, cyanide and high voltages: The pros and cons of
- various luser education strategies.
-
- There has been a great deal of debate on a.s.r about the best way of
- dealing with lusers, and at this time no consensus has been reached.
-
- What we can suggest, however, is to be sure it is painful, clean, and doesn't
- harm the computer. That unfortunately leaves a lot of options out;
- you can't just throw a grenade at them; it will hurt the machine.
-
- 4.6) How can I clean up the mess made by a lusers brain splattered across
- a monitor?
-
- Be careful. While cluelessness is not contagious, there are some nasty
- things that can be picked up from lusers. Blood transmitted diseses,
- you name it. Be sure to wear gloves. Otherwise, luser guts will usually
- clean up with warm water and soap. I've found a little bleach sometimes
- helps. Be careful with the keyboards; I've found that blood causes the
- keys to get very very sticky; Again, you can try gently washing it with
- soap and water.
-
- To get rid of the body, people have suggested using several garbage
- bags and a large quantity of duct tape. If you have to keep it for
- a while, try and remove the guts; that will keep the smell down..
- Alcohol and formalin works just fine as a preservative.
-
- 4.7) What is the penalty for murdering a luser?
-
- Unfortunately, in the eyes of the law, lusers are treated like humans.
- I therefore recommend you be discreet in your luser education campaigns.
-
- 4.8) How much should I charge for holding their hands?
-
- See the official ASR price list, at
- http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~moose/sysadmin/pricelist.html
-
- -----
-
- 5) DEALING WITH BEING A SYSADMIN
-
- 5.1) Caffeine and other Recreational Pharmaceuticals
-
- Caffeine: Much information about this can be found on alt.drugs.caffeine
-
- See http://homepage.seas.upenn.edu/~cpage/caffeine/FAQmain.html
-
- Booze: See rec.food.drink.*. Myself, I prefer coding after a six-pack
- of Samuel Smiths Oatmeal Stout, but you are welcome to your beverage
- of choice. Booze, particularly in large quantities, often makes dealing
- with lusers much more interesting. Ciders have been spoken of highly;
- myself I stick with Woodchuck (at $3 for a 1.5Litre bottle, it can't be
- beaten), but there are various other choices. Unfortunately, really good
- cider is hard to find in many places.
-
- We had an informal survey into the ASR booze of choice, and the only thing
- was resolved in terms of ASR beer preference is that yes, there is indeed
- a lot of choice. (Oh, and that ASR readers have excellent taste)
-
- There are lots of net resources for this. I recommend alt.drunken.bastards
- Try http://www.mindspring.com/~jlock/ for beer info.
-
- For more interesting things, rec.drugs.* can help you.
- See http://www.hyperreal.com/drugs/ for more info
- (for educational use only, I'd never, etc etc)
-
- 5.2) The excuse server
-
- This is an important net resource, that lets you give the exact reason
- why you can't do something yesterday.
-
- See http://www.engr.wisc.edu/~ballard/bofhserver.html
- Or telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666
-
- 5.3) The insults server
-
- Once you have got rid of your lusers, you will probably want to tell them
- what they really are. For this, the insults server is useful.
-
- telnet insulthost.colorado.edu 1695
-
- 5.4) Should I slit my wrists across or downwards?
-
- Downward.
- I used to suggest that you see the alt.suicide.holiday faq for more info,
- but that seems to have been emasculated. Oh well.
-
- An old version may be found at:
- http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/~ingvar/methods/
-
- 5.5) Sysadmin Tools
-
- There are a number of tools that make being a sysadmin important. Most
- important are chemical by nature; see 5.1. A particularly useful tool,
- revered by many of ASR, is the noble chocolate covered coffee bean. Since
- these may be hard to find, here are some places where they have been spotted:
-
- Manchester, UK: Costa Coffee at Piccadilly railway station
- Christchurch, NZ: Discoveries, on Victoria St., Fudge Cottage, coffee cart
- at University of Canterbury Students' Association.
- UK: Sainsbury's, Wittards, Thorntons
- Bradford, UK: Kirkgate shopping center, Choosys kiosk. 4 types. 100g for 2GBP.
- London, UK: Cafe Republic, South Molton St (Off Oxford St)
- Madison, WI, US: Copps Food Center, Steep & Brew Coffee & Tea
- Toronto, ON, CA: The Country Kitchen, Eglington Station.
- Bar Harbor, ME, US: Ben and Bills Chocolate Emporium (these do mail order)
- Hanover, NH, US: The Chocolate Shop
- US Mail Order: Porto Rico Importing Co, 1-800-453-5908.
- US: Some starbucks
-
- You can also make your own. Melt some chocolate, place some coffee beans
- in it, and Bjorn Stronginthearm's your uncle!
-
- For a stronger caffeine hit, try
-
- D&E Pharmaceuticals & Nutritionals
- 206 Macopin Road
- Bloomingdale, NJ 07403 USA
- 1-800-221-1833
-
- With a large selection of legal stimulants.
-
- Next in line is a good LART. A 2x4 works fine, but a real professional
- needs something a little more effective. Unfortunately, this is a very
- personal thing, and no consensus has yet been reached on the group.
- Everything from a simple, 7.65mm Walther (for the Bond fans only, it's not a
- very good gun) to a 155mm with depleted Uranium rounds has been suggested,
- some even going for exotic things like Thermite, nukes or flamethrowers.
- For further info, look at the rec.guns home page
- (http://www.teleport.com/~dputzolu/)
-
- You can find a lot of cool stuff at Military Surplus stores. (Sadly, they
- don't sell the _really_ interesting surplus stuff like tanks or F16s)
- Try US Cavalry, 1-800-777-7732.
-
- When you can't use the LART (eg, you don't want to damage a computer),
- water pistols and Nerfs are excellent substitutes. Nerfs, for those of
- you outside the US, are a range of foam weapons. Don't leave ~ without
- it.
-
- The leatherman is another useful tool. The Perl of swiss army knifes, this
- shouldn't be too hard to find.
-
- Finally, there are some tools a sysadmin is forbidden from having. Adequate
- computing power is first on this list, but the most important is called a
- "life".
-
- [ FAQ maintainers note: could someone send me some info on this? I've
- heard of it, but never had one. I have been told it is a simulation
- environment of cellular automata.]
-
-
- 5.6) Psychiatric Assistance
-
- If you are reading this, you need it. Contact your health insurance, and
- look at the Mental health net. http://www.cmhcsys.com/welcome.htm
-
- -----
-
- 6) OK, SERIOUSLY FOLKS! HELP!!!!!
-
- 6.1) Serious info about being a sysadmin
-
- Well, if you REALLY need help, don't ask here. Go over to whatever group
- is appropriate for what you are adminning (eg: comp.unix.admin), and
- ask there.
-
- 6.2) DOODZ!!!!!! W3R3 CAN 1 F1ND SUM K3WL WAREZ???????????
-
- Sounds like you want the Warez-net. Here are a list of some participating
- sites:
- ftp.japan.com
- warez.satanic.org
- pcwarez.compumedia.com
- warez.phantom.com
- ftp.warez.org
- warez.internetmci.com
- warez.dfki.uni-sb.de
- warez.compulog.org
-
- These places also have a good collection of gifs.
- (You need to log in with _your own_ name and password)
-
- For more information, look at the Warez-Net home pages at
- http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/warez.html
- http://www.afn.org/~riffer/warez.html
- http://jumper.mcc.ac.uk/~mcawolf/warez.html
-
- -----
-
- 7) OTHER RESOURCES
-
- 7.1) If you like ASR, you'll love...
-
- ...alt.folklore.computers
-
- Once a wonderful place, where great hackers strove to discuss mighty deeds
- done on real computers, this newsgroup has sadly decayed somewhat in recent
- years. With the advent of the minions of the Dark Lord and the even Darker
- Lord fighting over their respective toy OSs, the flames have overcome
- the real discussion. Though the fight is still going on, many of the eldar
- hackers have despaired of the net, fleeing the shores of AFC for good.
- (some have come here). Sic transit gloria mundi.
- Still worth a read, just be sure to have a kill file.
-
- ...comp.society.folklore
-
- The moderated version of afc, this is actually alive now, and seems active.
-
- ...the jargon file
-
- Not _particularly_ sysadmin related, this is rather a document on the
- general computer lore. May be found at http://www.ccil.org/jargon/jargon.html
-
- ...alt.fan.pratchett
-
- For some reason, there seems to be a large amount of synergy between the
- followers of the eternal Mr. Pratchett and ourselves. You be the judge.
-
- ...alt.fan.mailer-daemon
-
- "a hillariously poorly propogated newsgroup that hardly anybody is ever
- likely to read."
-
- ..."Helen, Sweetheart of the Internet"
-
- An often-amusing cartoon about a female BOFH (and yes, they do exist, I used
- to work for one).
- See http://www.peterzale.com/
- --
- Matthew Crosby crosby@cs.colorado.edu
- Disclaimer: It was in another country, and besides, the wench is dead.
-