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- NCSA Telnet Digest Monday, 29 Feb 1988 Volume 2 : Issue 4
-
- Today's Topics:
- interest question
- TelPass for the Mac
- Passwords in Telnet 2.1
- Telnet for the PC
- 3C501 Interrupts
- NCSA Telnet 2.1 (Macintosh) bugs
- NCSA TELNET for PS/2??
- PC Ethernet Boards
-
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-
- Subject: interest question
- Date: Thu, 25 Feb 88 23:39:14 PST
- From: satz@clash.cisco.com
-
-
- cisco is interested in building a LocalTalk interface to complement our
- multi-media and multi-protocol gateway and terminal server product
- line. I am soliciting requests for features and ideas as to what the
- community feels they need from such a "creature". Note that this isn't
- a product announcement or even a guarantee that we will do such a thing.
-
- The idea starts off with a single interface that will provide two
- LocalTalk ports. The software will accept IP and DDP packets from the
- LocalTalk or EtherTalk (AppleSpeak) interfaces and route them according
- to the current IP or RTMP routing tables. We already provide a fairly
- rich IP routing protocol environment so we would basically need to
- implement the Appletalk stack.
-
- Some issues and questions that I have thought of:
-
- 1) IP Networks/subnetworks or IP addresses. I remember an issue
- arising as to whether a LocalTalk network with only 32 nodes should be
- allocated its own IP network/subnet. The issue being that IP
- networks/subnets are a very limited resource and LocalTalk networks
- could consume quite a bit. The question is then would it be desirable
- to see the LocalTalk network as a subnet or as a range of addresses (as
- the FastPath)?
-
- 2) How important is encapsulating AppleTalk packets into IP/UDP
- datagrams for speaking to hosts using the Columbia Appletalk Package?
- I read Bill Croft's recent KIP announcement where he mentions
- DoubleTalk. Might this also be a necessary feature?
-
- 3) Random things. I have been seeing more things about Async
- AppleTalk. We already provide SLIP (serial line IP) across our
- terminal servers. If SLIP were extended to provide a type field (like
- ethernet) Async AppleTalk could be run simultaneously. Has anything
- close to a standard for Async AppleTalk been written? Would people be
- interested in seeing AppleTalk sent across X.25 networks?
-
- It would be helpful to hear what is essential in an AppleTalk interface
- and what would be nice to have but could wait. Also any other ideas
- that you have or things you have always wanted to see done should be
- mentioned since others might be interested in them as well as us.
-
- Thanks!
-
- Greg Satz
- cisco
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: gaige@ncsa.uiuc.edu <Gaige B. Paulsen>
- Subject: TelPass for the Mac
-
- GOOD NEWS! for those of you who would like to create password files
- for the Macintosh version of NCSA Telnet. Thanks to our very own
- Tim Krauskopf, we have a small but effective application for creating
- and modifying telnet password files on the Macintosh. Any questions
- about this program should be forwarded to this list. The program is
- in Hqx format and is available for Anonymous FTP from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu
- (128.174.20.50). The file name is NCSA_Telnet/Mac/telpass.Hqx.
-
-
- Enjoy,
- Gaige B. Paulsen
- National Center for Supercomputing Applications
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Michael Califf <CALIFFM%BAYLOR.BITNET@UIUCVMD>
- Date: Tue, 16 Feb 88 14:39 CST
- Subject: Passwords in Telnet 2.1
-
- OK. I give up - what do I have to do to get FTP passwords
- working? We've gotten telnet & ftp working fine to our VAXen
- (BSD 4.3 and VMS/CMUtcp) and everyone is happy...except for
- one professor who wants to put passwords on his mac.
-
- I've read the manual (very nice, by the way!) but can't get
- it to work.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Mike Califf
- Communications Programming Coordinator
- Baylor University
- CALIFFM@BAYLOR.BITNET
-
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-
- From: \ystein Torbj|rnsen IDT <oystein@idt.unit.no>
- Date: Thu, 18 Feb 88 16:17:32 +0100
-
-
- At our division of the Norwegian Institute of Technology we have
- tested the NCSA-version of Telnet and found it quite interesting. Please
- make us a member of the mailing list for more information.
- The following address should be our mailbox address (internet):
-
- <ncsa-telnet@idt.unit.no>
-
- We have the 3C501 ethernet cards and one question about the interrupt
- vectors. We have earlier configured the cards in all our personal computers
- for interrupt 7, but NCSA-Telnet (version 2.1) only supports 3 and 5.
- Does it exist newer releases supporting the other vectors?
-
- Oystein Torbjornsen
- Division for Computer Systems and Telematics
- Norwegian Institute of Technology
- Trondheim, Norway
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Pieter <Bowman@SCIENCE.UTAH.EDU>
- Date: Mon 22 Feb 88 15:34:47-MST
- Subject: Telnet for the PC
-
- We have Telnet for the Mac/LocalTalk/KFPS, Mac/EtherTalk
- and PC/Ethernet combinations. Will there be a Telnet for the
- PC/LocalTalk setup?
-
- On of the departments here will be buying LocalTalk boards
- for some PCs and would like to be able to use Telnet from those
- machines as well as AppleShare and the printing software.
-
- Pieter
- Arpa: bowman@science.utah.edu
-
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-
- From: hpoppe@scdpyr.UCAR.EDU (Herb Poppe)
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 88 10:26:03 mst
- Subject: NCSA Telnet 2.1 (Macintosh) bugs
-
- I have encountered two bugs when trying to use FTP with NSCA Telenet
- Version 2.1 on the Mac:
-
- 1) When I try to FTP from a host to the Mac ("put") and the filename
- on the host is very long (like the filenames in INFO-MAC on
- SUMEX.STANFORD.EDU) and I default Mac filename to the host filename, I return
- immediately to ftp on the host, the file is not transferred, and there is
- no error message. The transfer works if I specify a legal Mac filename
- (31 characters or less?). It would be extremely desirable if the Mac
- could force an error message to be printed by the host ftp.
-
- 2) When I try to FTP from a host to the Mac ("put") and there is not enough
- room on the Mac disk, the transfer appears to complete normally (that is,
- there are no error messages from the ftp host) but (of course) the entire
- file is not transferred. Telnet (or the host ftp) should give some kind
- of error message. If you can determine the file length before transfer begins,
- you could abort the transfer before it starts. If you can't do that, you
- might consdier deleting the partially transmitted file.
-
- I suspect that the code in these places is ignoring the error return
- from FSWrite (or whatever). That probably means that there are other places
- in the code where error returns are being ignored as well. A bug swatting
- expedition through the code might be in order.
-
- Herb Poppe NCAR INTERNET: hpoppe@scdpyr.UCAR.EDU
- (303) 497-1296 P.O. Box 3000 CSNET: hpoppe@ncar.CSNET
- Boulder, CO 80307 UUCP: hpoppe@scdpyr.UUCP
-
- ----------------------------------------------------
-
- From: DVTORR%gallua.bitnet@UIUCVMD
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 88 10:45 EST
- Subject: NCSA TELNET for PS/2??
-
- I am sorry if I missed a posting, but can you tell me if you are
- planning a PS/2 version of NCSA TELNET? If yes, when will it be
- available for use with a 3Com card? Thanks for all the work you have
- done.
- Don Torr <DVTORR@GALLUA.BITNET>
-
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-
- From: Darryl E. Marsee <DEMARSEE%SUVM.BITNET@UIUCVMD>
- Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1988 13:14:19 LCL
- Subject: PC Ethernet Boards
-
- Could someone tell me what Ethernet boards for the PC are supported
- by NCSA (both for now and planned for the future)?
-
- Many Thanks & Regards,
-
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