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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:38:10 EDT
From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) www.blastroblows.com

Go ahead, you fuck, Send another one of these fucking things.

Christ, can't we do something about this!??!?


"LIVE 8-10 pm Central Standard time

blastro.com and Texas Hardcorps present

S T U D I O   P R E S S U R E: Trailer Park 2000

tonight's guests:

     DJ Howl aka "Goatboy" - [Austin] UK Hardhouse and NU-NRG and other
stupid shit. Howl returns, hailing the crown of "most repetive DJ in the
world" by DJ Magazine and Farm Animals Monthly. One of the only Austin DJs
to actually allow live farm animals to roam and graze in the DJ Booth, and
he himself milking goats while spinning not one, but two turntables.
     Curly  - [Austin] 2 step garbage. Curly knows how to take out trash.
Giving up the waste removal business, his lifelong dream, was no easy task
for Curly. Spinning his patented "Garbage" mixing, he has been known to play
impromptu sets at the BFI plant, oftentimes at 3 am, when his shift ends.

tune in LIVE at

http://www.blastroblows.com"






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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:52:31 -0400
From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Fw: Majordomo results

Looks like Blastro.com runs the standard Majordomo software, so I sent an
unsubscribe command for us (unsubscribe * [e-mail]), and
received the following response.  Hopefully the list manager will remove us,
if not someone will just have to take the two minutes to spoof the headers
:)

Xaos
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 02:10:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael S. Brunet" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) wishful thinking

Hello All!

Playing a bit in the realm of really-wish-it-could-happen make believe...

Since the brothers P have wrapped preliminary tracks for the new album,
don't you all think that it's time to put together an Orbital DVD/VHS
release? Since they're about to head off for a mini-world tour, with many
large venues, taping performances wouldn't be too much of a hassle, and
the promotion value of the release would be a perfect tie-in for the new
album. Add to that the fact that Orbital have never released a video
presentation of their work, and that the market is ready for such a
release (to go along with live dvd/vhs releases from such high-profile
acts as Underworld, and Nine Inch Nails), and the idea seems like a
sure-fire winner.

Any wish-lists for the release? My dream DVD (has to be a DVD - crisp
picture, 6 channels of sound, and the market's ready for it) would be:


Orbital: Nothing Left
2 DVD set

Disc 1:
Full Orbital Show in anamorphic widescreen (has to be widescreen to
capture all of the screens) and 5.1 channel sound- perhaps edited together
from all of the 2000 shows still left in the year.
Alternate video track consisting solely of the imagery from the background
screens, with the live sound playing in the background
Alternate commentary track with Paul, Phil, Mickey Mann, and Loopz
discussing songs, the tour, and whatever else they find interesting

Disc 2:
All of Orbital's released video clips, including both versions of the
Saint, and "Live experience" (the promo Halcyon w/ Bon Jovi/Carlisle
samples)
Tx: Nothing program in its entirety (the BBC's been great about licensing
its programming for DVD)
Clips from the Doctor Who BBC program
Clips from Meltdown dance piece - one of the choreographers/performers
must have taped it for their portfolio
Clips from the Cream countdown to 2000 gig - the beeb was taping for at
least the last few minutes, right?
And last but not least - our man Steve Price given 30 minutes to rant
about whatever he likes ; )


Sorry if this was a waste of people's time - got all excited when I saw
that the new album tracks are preliminarily done, and got to thinking of
how Orbital could spend the remainder of their year (I know that there's
still much work involved in getting the tracks ready for release). Man,
even Weird Al has his own DVD (he actually has two) - doesn't Orbital
deserve to get such treatment (and don't us fans deserve to finally see
the visual side of our favorite band)? I'd pay upwards of $50 to get my
hands on such a release.

That's my two pieces of currency,

Mike

P.S. Steve, any chance of any of this becoming reality? Any plans (ever)
for a video release, live or not?




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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 09:03:52 BST
From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) chop for my feet

Back after months of summer temp'ing, a much too short week on Ibiza and a
good couple of concerts with the likes of Amon Tobin, Plaid and other
artists guesting Oslo.

Ibiza was fun, good ol' classic just like in the Undiscovered series, only
better since it was experienced first-hand now. Never been much a fan of
trance, and probably changed my idea of some of it now that I've been
clubbing to it rather than the stupid, cheesey euro-trance which plagues
many clubs in Oslo. No, this was a more choicey selection by different DJs
of different caliber, and it fit the mood of the island. Sipping lager on
the beach in baking sun with cool, tribal and deep house coming from the
speakers of the Bora Bora bar mere feet behind you. Catching the sunset from
Mezzanine Bar, Cafe Savannah and clichee-enough Cafe del Mar to great chill
and ambient, and the pre-club parties warming you up for the big show-down
with carnival sorts of behaviour at these sunset bars as the clubbers came
out and the ol' folks closed the shutters of their windows. Idyllic island,
great beaches, great weather, great music (for the setting).

BUT, major point was seeing Amon Tobin on the Thursday of a week and Plaid
on the following Saturday. I can only put it in terms of the quote used in
Biosphere's "SETI Project", 'it was unbelievable". Plaid did only one track
from Rest Proof..., the rest from the first Mbuki sumthin' and the Not For
Threes record. Amon Tobin, wow, bass loud enough to rock your soul and
re-arrange my insides.

Now, the Ninja Tune's 10th anniversary Xen Tour is on its way, oh yes, what
great way to wrap up summer!

Regards,

Trym

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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:41:39 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Blastro my ass!...

Take your fucking blastro spam and stick it elsewhere! >:-((
Didn't you announce to stop spamming this list a week ago?

DeeKay

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>
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>
>     DJ Howl - [Austin] UK Hardhouse and NU-NRG
>     Curly - [Austin] 2 step garage
>
> tune in LIVE at
>
> http://www.blastro.com



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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:10:44 PDT
From: "Aronne Merrelli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: photek

>Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:12:21 -0700
>From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (orbital) RE: Photek
>
>Hey,
>
>Has anyone seen Photek live before?  I am going to see him in a week and a
>half and I was wondering if he spins or plays a live set.  I am assuming
>that he plays a live set, but nowadays, it wouldn't surprise me if he just
>spins.  If anyone else on here is interested, and is in Vancouver, the

I have not seen him live, but im 90% sure that he is just DJ'ing.
In fact off the top of my head the only drum and bass artists
that I've heard do a real live performance, is Squarepusher
(and he's not really drum and bass) and Intense (the 2nd CD
of logical progression 3 was live, and it sucked)


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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:15:42 +0000
From: "Arfie Mansfield" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: photek

>I have not seen him live, but im 90% sure that he is just DJ'ing.
>In fact off the top of my head the only drum and bass artists
>that I've heard do a real live performance, is Squarepusher
>(and he's not really drum and bass) and Intense (the 2nd CD
>of logical progression 3 was live, and it sucked)

    Breakbeat Era are live, and Smith & Mighty are half live, half DJ.
And, of course, both are bloody good.

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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:24:37 -0400
From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) wishful thinking

> Disc 1:
> Full Orbital Show in anamorphic widescreen (has to be widescreen to
> capture all of the screens) and 5.1 channel sound- perhaps edited together
> from all of the 2000 shows still left in the year.

Er, sorry to be a pest, but I'd just like to say that I don't see any reason
why you'd only want anamorphic widescreen.  While yes, I generally support
releasing movies in widescreen format (except, for example, when full-frame
[not pan & scan] transfers are available--e.g. The Shining, Full Metal
Jacket), and I strongly believe that all widescreen transfers should be
anamorphic to help future-proof them, I just don't think concert footage
needs to be framed cinematically.

I mean, saying it "has to be widescreen to capture all of the screens" makes
no sense.  Whether in 16:9 or 4:3,  my TV is still a fixed width.  If all
the screens are visible in a 16:9 transfer, they're damn well going to be
visible in a 4:3 transfer--you just get to see more on the top and bottom,
too.

So, assuming this theoretical disc is ever made, please include a full-frame
transfer on the other side :)

5.1's a must, but hey, why not go for 6.1?  While we're at it, Dolby Digital
or DTS? :)

And hey, while I'm dreaming, throw The Visit on there, and give us some
multimedia content--maybe all the videos & sound clips on the Loopz site.

Xaos
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PS - I apologize in advance if this starts any flame wars on topics
including but not limited to; Kubrick's works and/or the quality of the DVD
transfers of his works, Pan & Scan vs. Widescreen, the necessity of
anamorphic transfers, audio formats, multi-disc vs. flipper, keepcase vs.
snapper.  :)




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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:54:51 BST
From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) chop for my feet

> >
> > Now, the Ninja Tune's 10th anniversary Xen Tour is on its way, oh yes,
>what
> > great way to wrap up summer!
> >
>
>Any idea who's gonna be performing on the tour?  The website is a bit
> >vague on this matter.

I gather it's the same for the whole Xen Tour, so the line up is Kid Koala &
PLove (displaying apt mastery on four decks), plus The Herbaliser (dj Ollie
Teeba) and Dynamic Syncopation. The ticket also lists Jake Wherry although
he's not mentioned by the previews I've seen so I'm not sure whether it's
The Herbaliser who appears or if it's the two djs as separate dj acts. And
all to the ludicrous, "symbolic" price of 8 quid for a ticket, whee! :)

Anyhow, should be a thrill with such a line-up.

Trym
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:06:39 BST
From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: photek

>>Has anyone seen Photek live before?  I am going to see him in a week and a
>>half and I was wondering if he spins or plays a live set. >>I am assuming
>>that he plays a live set, but nowadays, it wouldn't >>surprise me if he
>>just spins.  If anyone else on here is interested, >>and is in Vancouver,
>>the
>
>I have not seen him live, but im 90% sure that he is just DJ'ing.
>In fact off the top of my head the only drum and bass artists
>that I've heard do a real live performance, is Squarepusher
>(and he's not really drum and bass) and Intense (the 2nd CD
>of logical progression 3 was live, and it sucked)

Hey, did anyone else listen to the new album he's just released? I mean,
what's happened? I can't say much about his style because I haven't got the
other albums, apart from a sampler of Modus Operandi which is quite
jazz-inspired with piano and a rich bass. This new album however struck me
as if he's about to change musical direction, it sounded like a change
towards house and more electronika, weird whooshy noises and acid lines than
what I'd expect, which is drum'n'bass. Only in the second part of the album
did it get to what I was expecting, but the first five-six tracks just
seemed out of place for that album. Anyone else's thoughts on that?

I mean, take for instance A Guy Called Gerald's "Essence". It's maybe got a
bit of the same change in it, and a lot of vocals, but still I'd classify
most of those tracks as drum'n'bass or beats resembling jazz/drums/bass more
than anything else. Peshay did something of the same with "Miles From Home",
kinda delivering a more listenable album than your average 'dj'ed d'n'b set
(which would probably be bad for listening through a 10-track album),
including vocals and chilled, ocean breeze and jazz-club'ish variants, but
it all fit the category d'n'b and the rest of the songs might be fill-tracks
between the more beaty ones. But with Photek's new album I found the first
five-six to be sort of what I'd expect to be fill-tracks between the more
solid d'n'b songs towards the end of the album, not standing alone like that
in consecutive order.

Anyway, didn't buy the album and probably won't either until I change my
view of what d'n'b should be more like. Not that I'm stuck in one category
and have a recipe for d'n'b, but a clean cut from the genre, no thanks.

Trym

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:11:28 PDT
From: "Aronne Merrelli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: photek

>Hey, did anyone else listen to the new album he's just released? I mean,
>what's happened? I can't say much about his style because I haven't got the
>other albums, apart from a sampler of Modus Operandi which is quite
>jazz-inspired with piano and a rich bass. This new album however struck me
>as if he's about to change musical direction, it sounded like a change
>towards house and more electronika, weird whooshy noises and acid lines
>than what I'd expect, which is drum'n'bass. Only in the second part of the
>album did it get to what I was expecting, but the first five-six tracks
>just seemed out of place for that album. Anyone else's thoughts on that?

I heard somewhere (don't know if it was from an interview,
or if someone just made it up... but anyway) that his releases
on Virgin are going to be more accesible/mainstreamy stuff, as
he's trying to reach a larger audience, and experiment with
other dance music styles. He still releases stuff on Photek
Productions (his own label); I think there is a compilation
CD coming out soon on that label, but I forget the name.
I'm not planning on getting the new album, from your descriptions
and many others, it doesn't sound worth the time. Modus Operandi/
and the earlier stuff is just SO good, so for sure I'll be
dissappointed.

You might check out the new Klute full length, should be out
soon (can't remember the exact date) but sounds nice if you're
looking for good dnb.


later,
aronne
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:05:33 +0000
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new orbital track?

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I just found this track on Napster:
>
> Orbital - Sympathy for the devil
>
> It sounds not really like Orbital, it has all this singing and this guy
> screaming about guessing his name and all these e-guitars and so
> on!.. Could anyone confirm this?

Hehe.  What's sad is that I point out something and people blast me for it, but
when you point out the same thing, it's all silently accepted.  Blah...I've
gotten used to that type of behavior anyway.

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:00:27 +0000
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) blue illusion

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> > is this an orbital track?
>
> Yes it is. They made it especially to piss this list off, so that 5000
> people find it and ask the same question over and over again
> without bothering about reading *any* Orbital-FAQ!...

Glad I'm not the only one annoyed by these damn messages.

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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:34:57 -0400
From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A1=B5=D8=DF=A5=21?=

Hey BB!

Moby scores again
Time to 'Play' as Moby scores yet another soundtrack hit...
http://www.nme.com/newsdesk/20000928090021.html

>8^)




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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:02:49 +0000
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Pacman MP3???

Shaun Rader wrote:
>
> > subscribe to this list, and they might not know about some of the rarer
> > Orbital releases, eg their Queen Latifah remix. I know that if I saw
> > "Queen Latifah - In My House (Orbital Remix)" on Napster I'd have my
>
> Have you ever really seen it on Napster??

The words "rare" and "Napster" is not be used in the same sentence, unless the
word "not" is in there :P

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