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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:00:02 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) mp3, censorship, record companies and replies

Here's my final cents about the topic (for now! 8-P ):

Steve wrote:

> I love the idea of try before you buy - mp3s extend this idea and its great
> finding live bootlegs and rare - hardtofind stuff. I think that most record
> companies can handle this kind of piracy but the smaller labels that are
> independent (like Bobby Birds Headphone) obviously suffer a lot from mp3
> trading.

Yeah, read below!

> Most people i know will at least buy the album or ep if they like the mp3s -
> if everyone did this then i guess we wouldnt be having this discussion now.
> I am certainly no angel in this respect because there is only so much money
> in the pot so to speak :)

Hehe, nice to see someone as honest as to admit it! ;-D Especially
from you being known as not quite the mp3-advocate! 8)

> Nothing anyone can do about mp3 trading/piracy in my view - its here - its
> not getting any smaller - i guess the big boys will survive and the smaller
> companies may not. I really do believe that if you can get the release and
> you like it that much then you should pay up and give some money back. The
> record company always pays the artist an advance for each album depending on
> the previous sales and their future scope.
>

Yeah, and now the small labels need to SEE and USE the chance!!..
The Majors make fools of themselves trying to fight it, but we all
know they cannot win since Elvis has left the building and there's no
way he'll ever come back! (see what nice speech figures i make up
just to not bore you by repeating myself with the "genie" phrase! ;-D
Not it's time for the minor labels to do what the majors have
overlooked, namely USE the net and mp3 for their purposes!
What's the big problem with minor labels? They mostly make great
music, but the problem is the AVAILABILITY!.. Now i agree with you
that if people leech their stuff as mp3s it will hurt them more than
the majors, but how many of the independant-favoring people just love
the MUSIC and not the collectordom and would be so pleased if they
could just download the stuff with a simple click?
Remember that i talked about the problem with digital copies? Well,
here it can be an ADVANTAGE, as minors simply neither have the
marketing power nor the money to have their stuff spread like the
majors do, in every single shop!.. Remember indy-labels are not about
making something seem elite through only producing some thousands of
one album, they're about INDEPENDANCE!.. FREEDOM for the musicians to
do their thing!
So now they DO have the instrument to spread their
stuff prolly QUICKER, CHEAPER and WIDER than the majors through
digital distribution! 8) And i sure do pray that they realize this
situation, they now have their ticket to kick the majors bigtime!..
And i'm not talking about online-recordstores here! ;-D

One more word about leeching mp3s of songs that are available
everywhere: Everyone go leech as much of this stuff as possible,
cause every Backstreet-boys-song leeched is a Backstreet-Boys song
not bought, and who will feel that the most? the majors, cause it's
in 90% of the cases THEM that produce this shit! >:-)

> Deekay - one thing to say is that Paul Hartnoll likes a joke - believe me
> because i know him, i have witnessed his sense of humour and if you read
> most interviews there is a lot of Pauls humour in them. A chance for him to
> joke about record companies and i am sure he will jump at it. Who wouldnt
> joke about their boss or owners ? :) Its one of his best attributes - a good
> sense of humour. He needs one - he works in the music business!
>
Hehehe! ;-D You pretty much contradicted yourself there in the last
sentence! ;-D
But other than that, i guess you know better than me so if you say
he was ONLY joking, he prolly was.. 8)

DeeKay


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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:17:21 +0000
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) mp3s (again)

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Yeah, and now the small labels need to SEE and USE the chance!!..
> The Majors make fools of themselves trying to fight it, but we all
> know they cannot win since Elvis has left the building and there's no
> way he'll ever come back! (see what nice speech figures i make up
> just to not bore you by repeating myself with the "genie" phrase! ;-D
> Not it's time for the minor labels to do what the majors have
> overlooked, namely USE the net and mp3 for their purposes!
> What's the big problem with minor labels? They mostly make great
> music, but the problem is the AVAILABILITY!.. Now i agree with you
> that if people leech their stuff as mp3s it will hurt them more than
> the majors, but how many of the independant-favoring people just love
> the MUSIC and not the collectordom and would be so pleased if they
> could just download the stuff with a simple click?
> Remember that i talked about the problem with digital copies? Well,
> here it can be an ADVANTAGE, as minors simply neither have the
> marketing power nor the money to have their stuff spread like the
> majors do, in every single shop!.. Remember indy-labels are not about
> making something seem elite through only producing some thousands of
> one album, they're about INDEPENDANCE!.. FREEDOM for the musicians to
> do their thing!
> So now they DO have the instrument to spread their
> stuff prolly QUICKER, CHEAPER and WIDER than the majors through
> digital distribution! 8) And i sure do pray that they realize this
> situation, they now have their ticket to kick the majors bigtime!..
> And i'm not talking about online-recordstores here! ;-D
>
> One more word about leeching mp3s of songs that are available
> everywhere: Everyone go leech as much of this stuff as possible,
> cause every Backstreet-boys-song leeched is a Backstreet-Boys song
> not bought, and who will feel that the most? the majors, cause it's
> in 90% of the cases THEM that produce this shit! >:-)
>
> Hehehe! ;-D You pretty much contradicted yourself there in the last
> sentence! ;-D
> But other than that, i guess you know better than me so if you say
> he was ONLY joking, he prolly was.. 8)

Your long first paragraph seems to be shot down with your second
paragraph.  You just contradicted yourself.  Take your quote:

"Everyone go leech as much of this stuff as possible, cause every
BSB-song leeched is a BSB song not bought."

Ummm...if that applies to BSB, doesn't that apply to everybody else.
Why bother buying music if you can get it for free?  There must be an
incentive to buy this stuff if you are to be successful.

Case in point: mIRC, the widely popular IRC client for Windoze, recently
had its 10th registered user.  In the span of two or three years, mIRC
has had millions of unregistered users and 10 registered users.  As much
as I hate shareware, it does bring up a point: if you don't have a
reason to buy something, nobody is going to buy it.

- --
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:08:08 -0700
From: "Mike Henderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Women and technology / the LINUX thing

Shall we combine these off-topic threads into one thread about Eunuchs?  :)
(sorry, had to do that...)

Mike



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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:21:35 PST
From: "kulsoom a" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Women and technology

> > >aimee couture wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i want to hire more girls for next year =]
> > > > and i have a say in hiring now, so maybe i can help make that
>happen.
> > >
> > >Don't be biased.  It's not because men won't hire women.  It's because
> > >women don't bother.
> > >
> > >How many women are on this ML? (One.)
> >
uh make that two :P
> >
> > >How many women play video games? (2%.)
> > >How many women hackers exist? (Almost nil.)
> > >How many women are experts at cars? (Even less.)
> > >How many women go to raves WITHOUT their boyfriends? (About 10%.)
> > >How many women play the guitar? (Less than 10%.)
> > >How many women are famous DJs? (I could count them on one hand.)
> > >
> > >The simple fact is this: women are afraid of technology.  I'm not one
>of
> > >those bigots that thinks they should be making babies and cooking
> > >dinner.  (Quite the opposite...it's hard to get a date in my social
> > >class.)  But, maybe women should get off their asses and learn
> > >technology, instead of learning fashion design and cooking and singing!
> > >It's not our fault that women simply don't have an interest in it.
> >
> >
why dont women just do what they want to do.. and not be told what to do. if
someone likes fashion great. and if they like hacking then that is great
too.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper ([e-mail])
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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:07:56 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Double-X Gonosome Carriers...

Here's my stance on the matter:

I think there women ARE different to men, whoever neglects that fact
is either a raving blind feminist or just simply blind.
There is scientific evidence that women THINK different to men, and
afterall is the not-understanding of the opposite sex not what the
"fight of the sexes" is all about? 8)
>From what i remember the study said women have different
thinking-patterns (which i think every man would subscribe to! 8) and
they're (genetically) rather focused on the left brainlobe (emotions,
creativity) while men are right-focused (ratio, straight thinking).
The study also pointed out that women generally have a worse
perception of distances (which prolly is where the often (by men!)
quoted parking-disability comes from, though i gotta admit that i
myself am not the best parallel parker in the world! <:-) while they
excell in other areas.
So my summary is: There ARE differences, and GENERALLY both women
and men are genetically not ideally prepared for some things, while
they're perfectly suited for others, but the genetic basis is just
one aspect, so i say kudos to everyone who's "infiltrating" areas
where the other sex dominates! 8)
And everyone should have the RIGHT to do so, and this also includes
that men should be allowed to do women's jobs if they want to, which
is not always the case from what i heard!..

DeeKay


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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:18:54 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) She blinded me with science

> It depends on who your talking to.  Unintelligence turns me off when I'm
> talking to a woman.

Totally subscribe to that! 8)

>  And you think hacking can't be sexy.  Just look at
> Angelina Jolie in Hackers.  Sure, it was an unrealistic movie, but it
> proves that you can look sexy and still be a hacker.
>

Argl! Dude, i guess even a loaf of bread would seem sexy if it were
to use this unknown totally graphical mulitmedia-OS they used for
their "hacking"! <:-)

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:26:38 -0700 (MST)
From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) some reviews and whatever

brenden blathered,

>  >it!  Ugh!  It totally goes against the principles of techno:
> creativity and complexity in sound and composition.

complexity, huh? tell that to richie hawtin. or eno. or a gazillion
others. try adding an "imho" every so often, brenden.

yeah, so despite the fact that his opinions (i don't even know if they're
that - more like limited observations) on gender are downright 1950s and
that i disagree with nearly every bluntly-stated word that farts off his
keyboard, i couldn't help but respond to brenden's request on the
following artists:

>   u-Ziq - Tango N Vectif

his first (i think) album. actually not bad at all. it's definitely mike
p., but before he discovered dnb. has a techno/electro/experimental feel
to it.  i tend to associate the sound with bluff limbo, which is about
the same quality. expect about 1/3 good, 1/3 okay, 1/3 crap.

>   u-Ziq - In Pine Effect

i listen to it and go "good" but it still doesn't tend to get a lot of
play. a few classics on there, especially "phiesope." that one actually
made me search out the kristin hersh song it was sampled from (good song!)
sounds like what it is - the middle record of his career.

>   Tori Amos - To Venus And Back

hmm. the new stuff or the live stuff? the new stuff sounds like
"choirgirl" to me, but less interesting. i'm not down with her electronic
sound, i think the first three (up to "pele") are by far her best. the
live stuff is mostly very good. the version of "mr. zebra" is fricking
excellent.

>   Goldie

i don't really have an opinion on goldie, other than he mostly sucks.
timeless bored me, but i think i'm in the minority. the only thing i
wanted to mention is that today i bought his "INCredible sound of drum and
bass" mix 2CD, used, for $9. review forthcoming. (basically i thought it
would be a good way to check out various folks - dillinja, optikal, etc -
without buying individual releases.)

>   Black Dog

this was covered. i have bytes and spanners. i would agree with what
aronne said, that it sounds like proto-plaid. i dunno, you can probably
find them both used somewhere - i did (and in des moines, no less!) - i
wouldn't pay full price.

hey, has anyone heard of "the fireman"? i bought this thing today - if i
recall correctly, it's an electronic collab between paul mccartney and
someone else. i really like it. sounds a bit like the orb, with fewer
beats and more melodies, and none of that mindless spoken sample crap i
can't stand. well, okay, there's some of that, but mostly it's good shit.

two final points on something about which i feel strongly:

1) it's women's fault they aren't taking the opportunities they've been
given in technology and science? oh but then you admit that golly-gee
beaver, it IS a male-dominated society we're living in. wull gosh, that's
funny... am i the only one that sees a DC-10-size hole in this reasoning?

2) there's no longer any gender bias in the workplace? do you have any,
ANY idea what the payrate discrepancy between men and women is, to this
day, this grand day of supposed equality of the sexes?

sorry to perpetuate the OTness, but for fuck's sake...

nub





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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:00:02 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) would somebody please

Actually this nice idea of benjib got totally overlooked through all
the nt/linux, mp3 and women discussion!...
Now it's time to share all your Collections and update the list! ;-D
I'd have some corrections, too!..
What do you guys say?

DeeKay

P.S.: To whoever i sent the mail about the Gonosome Carriers to:
please send it back or straight to the list, it was meant to go
there in the first place (got NO clue who it actually DID go to!)


> mornin'
>
> would somebody please
> contact mr. lazlo who used to run the orbital discography (dead in late
> 1997)
> and ask if they can copy it and update it and create a new web home for it
> dont have the link to hand any problems finding it pls ask
>
> i would take on the task but i am a vinyl-phobe (dont ask it a love/hate
> thing)
> i will definately help out whoever takes it on with scans and info on
> orbital cds
> compilation appearances and bootlegs
>


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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 03:17:47 -0600
From: Julie Lynn Hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Women and technology

Marc Sawaya wrote:

> Hi Julie!  Great to have you de-lurk, too bad it had to be because of something
> like this.

Don't worry about it. At least it's something I can make some insightful comments on.
:) I'll throw in another .02 on the topic tomorrow night or so too. I'm too tired to
write coherently right now.

> Ok, that's the last I plan to say about that.  Julie, tell us a little bit about
> yourself = ).  How long have you been into Orbital, or on this list?  How'd you get
> into Orbital, etc?  Inquiring minds want to know, as, Brendan pointed out, the
> male/female ratio on this list is appalling.  We want to know how the opposite sex
> (or at least the specimens we have available = ) shares Orbital with is .  We've
> been blabbing with each other for a while, and Aimee hasn't been too active lately
> = P.

Lessee...been listening to Orbital for at least 3 years; been on the list for a couple
of months now, I think I joined late last year. Don't remember. I got into them
partially by stumbling onto Halcyon (classic!) and the Box (thank you, MTV, you did one
thing right),  and because I had the good fortune to make a friend that had good taste
in music and pointed me in the right direction. I passed on the favor by creating an
addict out of one of my friends this past summer.  :)

I'm also a denizen-of-the-night college student that really needs to GO TO SLEEP
because I have to get up in 5 hours, so I'm just going to do that now. Fire away with
more questions, I guess, if you really want to know.

Julie





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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:35:52 -0500
From: CD Rich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) some reviews and whatever

On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:26:38 -0700 (MST) Nub <[e-mail]>
writes:

> hey, has anyone heard of "the fireman"? i bought this thing today - if
i
> recall correctly, it's an electronic collab between paul mccartney and
> someone else. i really like it. sounds a bit like the orb, with fewer
> beats and more melodies, and none of that mindless spoken sample crap i
> can't stand. well, okay, there's some of that, but mostly it's good
> shit.

The Fireman is Paul McCartney and Youth.

They have released two CDs that I'm aware of - "Strawberries, Oceans,
Ships, Forest" (1993) and "Rushes" (1998).

CDRich
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:26:35 +0200
From: "Der Automat" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Change e-mail address

Please note the change of e-mail address
[e-mail]

DER AUTOMAT



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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:33:28 -1200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Orbital, do you remember?

TOO MANY people wrote


> >
> > Marc's on the pull! ;-)
>
> Now it's that goddamn attitude that shuns women from posting here!  Shut
> your mouth, Jon, and be polite to the lady!
>Brendan's on the pull!


etc, etc

Well, i=B4m one of the WOMEN subscribed to this list and "THE REASON" i don=
=B4t
post (i dont want to generalize so i=B4ll speak for myself though i know som=
e
"male brains" in this ML might think the same)too often is my time is too
precious to discuss this bullshit you are in most part of the time, and not
because of some gennetically impaired mechanism that stops me from being
interested in technology, as you call it: I do science,  I DJ occasionally
(quite well by the way) and go wherever i want without asking "my
boyfriend".

So just  PLEASE STOP it, ok?


MONICA (female member of the list number X)





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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:43:38 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Discography - new section added to Loopz

Its been a long time coming and yes it used to be on the old site.

DISCOGRAPHY pages - COMPILATION section now open.

The following pages have been added with a cover shot of the CD release and
full information on the tracks featured plus additional detail on the cd
itself.

Technovisions - Golden Girls - "Kinetic (Orbital Remix)"
Aural Playground - "Equinox"
Survival 2000 - "Impact (The Earth is Burning) (Live)"
Give Peace a Dance - The Shamen - "Hear Me Oh My People (Orbital Mix)"
FFRR Gold on Black - "Chime (The Helium Mix)"
Wipeout - "P.E.T.R.O.L"
Survival - The Dance Compilation - "Choice (Eye and I Remix)"
Spawn - The Album - "Satan"
FFRR Classics - "Belfast (Original Mix)" and "Chime (Original Edit)"
Shopping - "Crash and Carry"
Help - "Adnan"
Foundations - Coming up from the Street - "The Tranquilizer Busy
Tranquilizing"
Give Peace A Dance 3 - Psychotic Reactions - "Pied Piper - "Kinetic (Orbital
Remix)" / "Open Mind (f.a.mix)"
Sally Photographic Memory - "The Girl With The Sun In Her Head (Live)"
The Serious Road Trip - "Impact / Remind (Live at Glastonbury 1994)"
Trance Europe Express - "Semi-Detached"
Tribal Gathering 95 - "Are We Here? (Who Are They?)"

Regards

Steve LOOPZ Price
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:11:13 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) mp3s (again)

[snip]

>
> Your long first paragraph seems to be shot down with your second
> paragraph.  You just contradicted yourself.  Take your quote:
>
> "Everyone go leech as much of this stuff as possible, cause every
> BSB-song leeched is a BSB song not bought."
>
> Ummm...if that applies to BSB, doesn't that apply to everybody else.
> Why bother buying music if you can get it for free?  There must be an
> incentive to buy this stuff if you are to be successful.
>
No, there's no contradiction there! 8) You didn't understand what i
said:
The Majors reject mp3 and digital distribution, so they won't profit
from it anyway.
The Independant labels need to make this way of distribution their
preferred choice, cause then THEY can profit from it!
I would much rather download a track right from the
artist's/indy-label's Homepage for say ~$3 per Single/~$7 per Album
(which would be still WAY more profit than they'd make of regular
distribution!) than scanning the searchengines, IRC and FTPs for a
specific rare indy-track track that i want OR search various small
indy-recordstores in town OR mailorder the stuff!

> Case in point: mIRC, the widely popular IRC client for Windoze, recently
> had its 10th registered user.  In the span of two or three years, mIRC
> has had millions of unregistered users and 10 registered users.  As much
> as I hate shareware, it does bring up a point: if you don't have a
> reason to buy something, nobody is going to buy it.

Sorry, but that's hardly believable! >:-) I myself know one of the
supposed ten guys who did, which would be almost impossible if you
consider statistics! >:-) That number is so ridiculously small it is
TOTALLY unbelievable! How many registered users does WinAMP and
ACDsee have then according to you? 5? >:-)
Plus mIRC has been around for MUCH longer than 3 years, i myself have
been using it since 96 and AFAIR v5 was just released then... Shame
on me for not registering it, too, but TEN (in supposed 7 years
atleast) is a number i'll just NEVER believe with several millions
of users!!

Other than that, mIRC can be downloaded from anywhere, it needn't be
searched for hours in doubtable FTPs and searchengines (napster is
not well suited for indy-tracks! 8)... That's what differenciates it
from mp3s in the first place!

DeeKay


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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:10:59 EST
From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital, do you remember?

"Well, i┤m one of the WOMEN subscribed to this list and "THE REASON" i don┤t
post (i dont want to generalize so i┤ll speak for myself though i know some
"male brains" in this ML might think the same)too often is my time is too
precious to discuss this bullshit you are in most part of the time, and not
because of some gennetically impaired mechanism that stops me from being
interested in technology, as you call it: I do science,  I DJ occasionally
(quite well by the way) and go wherever i want without asking "my
boyfriend".

So just  PLEASE STOP it, ok?"

*hands Brenden a Kleenex*

RIGHT ON, MONICA! No creo que la tema de la lista es "mujeres y technologia"
tampoco!!! :-)

La tema es Orbital! Bueno, recibiste mi correo sobre mmmmm...hace un mes? Lo
mande, pero no se si lo recibiste, estaba ocupada, o algo.

Rob, Presidente de Orbital Without Borders. hehehehe


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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:01:07 +0000
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbitario, usted recuerda?

Robert Schultz wrote:
>
> RIGHT ON, MONICA! No creo que la tema de la lista es "mujeres y technologia"
> tampoco!!! :-)
>
> La tema es Orbital! Bueno, recibiste mi correo sobre mmmmm...hace un mes? Lo
> mande, pero no se si lo recibiste, estaba ocupada, o algo.

Roberto, salido el forzar de mφ utilizar Babelfish, bastardo de habla
hispana del ya! Sφ, sΘ que es una cosa larga del apagado-asunto, pero
apenas que piensa en cußntos hicieron estallar las mujeres
repentinamente para arriba de su estatus del lurker. Podemos pasar quizß
esta relaci≤n de transformaci≤n a 1:1 o algo cerca de Θl. Y no, no estoy
intentando golpear en polluelos en este ML!

The English-to-Spanish-to-English looks horrible, so I'm sure the
Spanish doesn't look much better.

- --
Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper ([e-mail])
Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:30:24 +0100
From: "benjib" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Discography - new section added to Loopz

more

scans available on request

items listed are on cd only

various - 013 ibiza sasha global underground gu:013

nothing left (breeder remix)

various - alternator synchro 007 cd 1

open mind (funky alternative mix)

various - aural playground p2 50005

equinox

various - cold sweat din cd 36

chime crime

various - criminal justice cdcrim1

impact usa

various - dub house disco 2000 grcd 007

drum club - alchemy (phasers on dub mix)

various - essential decade mm001

belfast (sasha vs the light remix)
nothing left (breeder remix)

various - foundations coming up from the streets fcl002cd

the tranquiliser busy tranquilising

various - the glastonbury broadcasts vol 1 nme-bbc glasto 99

chime 94

various - global cuts 2 gc26cd

lush(1926 trancendance mix)

various - gold on black 1990 828 207-2

chime

various - help 828 682-2

adnan

various - radio one sound city leeds 1996 citycd96

the box

various - only for the headstrong 162 351 022-2

chime (ray keith mutation)

various - platinum on black 697 124 005-2

impact(the earth is burning)

various - roadkill 1.01 swc-cd-1.01

chime (j. mark andrus mix)

various - sallys photographic memory sal cd001

the girl with the sun in her head

various - sony/atv music remix sampler cdr

nothing left (tsunami one remix)
style (bagpipe mix)

various - spawn the album 488118 2

orbital & kirk hammett satan

various - survival 2000 tribe cd1

impact the earth is burning (live at glastonbury 94)

various - survival the dance compilation grcd 008

choice (orbital i and eye mix)

various - the beach motion picture soundtrack 4344 31079-2

beached

various - the serious road trip mcd 11195

remind (live at glastonbury)

various - trance europe express teex cd 1

semi-detached

various - uk tribal gathering 95 828 452-2

are we here? (who are they?)

various - wasted bov cd1

belfast/wasted

various - wipeout sony tv 6 cd / 31-481119-10

wipeout (p.e.t.r.o.l.)

various - wip3out the music arc/11b/10/99

know where to run

benjib
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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:47:22 -0700
From: "Mike Henderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Do yourself a favor...

If you want to make yourself one killer Orbital live CD, take the live
tracks from the various singles and slap them on one audio CDR. It's
incredible!! The clarity of the recordings from the New York stuff on the
Satan singles is excellent, in particular.

This piece of useless opinion/information brought to you by:
Mike



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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:52:22 -0700
From: "Mike Henderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Live show recording questions

I have some questions about a couple of live Orbital show recordings:

1) If anyone out there has the Alexandra's Palace recording from 1996, does
your copy of the show have Out There Somewhere? The one I have fades in with
Choice, which was the second song in the actual setlist.

2) Does anyone that has the Leeds recording also have two songs truncated a
bit short: Out There Somewhere and Dwr Budr. Also, is this recording only 5
tracks (Out There, Girl With..., Dwr Budr, Box 1, Box 2)?

Thanks!
Mike



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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 00:38:08 +0100
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Discography - new section added to Loopz

Benjib

I welcome contributions - it will save me a lot of time as the Orbital
compilations are endless. I have tried to target the exclusive tracks found
on compilations but naturally the end result should be to document any
compilation i can find. There are a few other compilations that i can add
but of the ones you listed - these are the ones that would save me a lot of
time.

        various - 013 ibiza sasha global underground gu:013
        nothing left (breeder remix)

        various - alternator synchro 007 cd 1
        open mind (funky alternative mix)

        various - cold sweat din cd 36
        chime crime

        various - criminal justice cdcrim1
        impact usa

        various - dub house disco 2000 grcd 007
        drum club - alchemy (phasers on dub mix)

        various - essential decade mm001
        belfast (sasha vs the light remix)
        nothing left (breeder remix)

        various - the glastonbury broadcasts vol 1 nme-bbc glasto 99
        chime 94

        various - global cuts 2 gc26cd
        lush(1926 trancendance mix)

        various - radio one sound city leeds 1996 citycd96
        the box

        various - only for the headstrong 162 351 022-2
        chime (ray keith mutation)

        various - platinum on black 697 124 005-2
        impact(the earth is burning)

        various - roadkill 1.01 swc-cd-1.01
        chime (j. mark andrus mix)

        various - sony/atv music remix sampler cdr
        nothing left (tsunami one remix)
        style (bagpipe mix)

        various - wasted bov cd1
        belfast/wasted

        various - wip3out the music arc/11b/10/99
    know where to run

If you wish to contribute then drop me an email and i can explain what
detail i am trying to cover.

    Thanx in advance

    Steve Loopz Price
    Orbital Zine
    www.loopz.co.uk


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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:34:48 -0800
From: jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Discography - new section added to Loopz

Was the "Friends of Matthew remix" of "Chime" listed anywhere in there?

it's a DMC promo, I can post the details if anyone is interested.

Jon



At 09:30 PM 3/30/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>
>more
>
>scans available on request
>
>items listed are on cd only
>
>various - 013 ibiza sasha global underground gu:013
>
>nothing left (breeder remix)
>
>various - alternator synchro 007 cd 1
>
>open mind (funky alternative mix)
>
>various - aural playground p2 50005





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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:20:07 +0200
From: "Der Automat" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Highway To Hell in Spain!!!

Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt) <[e-mail]>
>> Yes, but not exactly in Madrid but in Leganes (a small town near Madrid).
>> The street is called "calle AC/DC" (AC/DC street) and some people have
>> robbed several times the sign.
>>
>I hear they're naming a street Mike Oldfield in Madrid as well!
>He's my big music hero.
>I have a Q interview with him and Orbital somewhere.

The avenue is near the bullring 'La Cubierta', which, according the mayor of
Leganes, will have eight streets and four spaces, so they will can named
with the name of other local, national or foreing bands.

DER AUTOMAT



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Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:25:09 +0200
From: "Der Automat" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) the ever-ongoing mp3-discussion..

Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote:

>At least games are at a reasonable price.

Not here in Spain where we have to pay some 8000 pesetas (US$48) for a PC,
N64 or PS game. Paradoxically Sony spends a huge amount of million dollars
to warn the consumers about illicit of programs and
videogames piracy, and they don't invest that money in making to go down the
price of
the games in order to prevent that same piracy.

DER AUTOMAT



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