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orbital-digest       Thursday, January 13 2000       Volume 02 : Number 289




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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:42:26 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Cream 2000 MD Clone

Just wanted to let everyone know i have Orbital's Cream show (MD
Clone).  Anyone's interested you know where to find me.
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Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:43:02 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) cream 2000 pt2

Oh BTW it's a radio broadcast so it's FM quality




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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:17:05 GMT
From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) bootlegs / live show recordings

>Orbital live bootlegs on this list?

I will have the Orbital live from Roskilde '99 available in a few weeks time
for anyone who will want to have a listen.

Regards,

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:48:22 +0100
From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Satan - Rhyme And Reason Mix

I have a copy of this track.
Who is it that's singing?

This reminds me of the Shamen.


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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:01:09 -0500
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ooh crickey, wot a scorcher! -- feb 5th

One, I have a lack of faith for a rave that uses Ticketmaster.  We have our own
commericialized raves in Louisville, thank you.  (And I'll never pay $25 dollars
to go to a fucking warehouse rave again...nor any other Evolution rave.)  Plus,
I can go to a THREE-DAY rave for US$20.  (Interstellar Dreamfest kicked ass!)

Two, anybody that advertizes "ROAR" is usually up to something.  Saying no
drugs  (yeah, whatever! :) and bad attitudes is one thing (it's tradition), but
saying ROAR is just something that doesn't need to be said.  Everybody knows the
rules and if they need to be told not to act like an asshole, then we don't need
them in the scene anyway.

Three, what the hell is wrong with markers?

Of course, this is my own damn opinion.  If you don't like it, ignore it.

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:13:15 -0500
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) LTJ Bukem and Trip-Hop...

Well, this list is kinda dead right now, so I'll ask a question or two.  Does
LTJ Bukem have any good non-mix albums?  I find that his choice of other
musicians usually sucks, but he himself does some fine D&B.  (Of course, I'm
only judging it with Logical Progressions, but it's a double-album at least.)

Also, what exactly is Trip-Hop, IYO?  I hear a lot of different definitions of
trip-hop, from instrumental hip-hop to toned-down D&B.  Most argee that DJ
Food/Coldcut does do trip-hop, but DJ Food's "A Recipe for Disaster" sounds like
a jazz/R&B album than was engineered, instead of done with instruments.  (But I
still adhere to the idea that the method of the sound production doesn't define
the catagory.)

(You guys hate me for bringing up another definition argument, don't you? :)

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:48:54 -0500
From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ooh crickey, wot a scorcher! -- feb 5th

well..
$25 is the price in canadian dollars.. which works out to about $18 for y=
ou.
chris has always put roar on his flyers..
i wouldn't worry about this being a dirty warehouse party.. there's many
restrictions on the toronto scene now, due to deaths in the past year. i'=
ve
put the regulations below.

oh, and misha [dj tsar] told me that dreamfest was indeed good :]

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Toronto Dance Safety Committee

Protocol for the Operation of Safe Dance Events

1. Venue

Organizers will provide to the Municipal Licensing and Standards Division
(MLS), Urban Planning and Development Services Department, a list of
commonly-used venues. The Department will co-ordinate checks of these
locations to ensure that they are appropriately zoned. This will be
communicated to the operators.

For new venues, organizers will be required to submit to MLS details of a=
ny
proposed location. MLS will undertake to check zoning, and the organizers
will be advised of the results within two days of the date of notificatio=
n.

Upon confirmation of appropriate zoning, the organizer must submit a repo=
rt
from an architect or engineer that the venue complies with applicable
Building Code requirements. No report will be required for venues already
legally zoned and used for Assembly Occupancies.

Fire Services will verify compliance and confirm occupant load.

Organizers are cautioned that they must build sufficient lead time into
their own process to recognize that some locations submitted for review w=
ill
not be appropriate for various reasons.

There will be a fee for individual venue review, in the order of $125.00.

[Note - Although this procedure seems onerous, it is important to note th=
at
this process will ONLY be required when promotors are using a
never-before-used "virgin" venue. It is our hope that the promotors of
Toronto will work together to "legalize" new venues when they become
available.]

2. Density

The safe occupant load, as determined by the above noted review, will
establish the "cap" on ticket sales. Organizers agree not to sell tickets=
 or
admit participants over the number allowed by the occupancy permit.

3. Water

Organizers will make arrangements so that patrons will have unrestricted
access to a supply of running water, at no charge.

4. Toilets/Portolets

Organizers agree to provide toilets as per existing legislation.

5. Fresh Air

Organizers agree to provide adequate ventilation as per existing
legislation.

6. Food

If food is served, it will be served as per existing legislation.

7. Smoking

No smoking as per existing legislation.

[Note - This section relates to the City-wide "no smoking" by-law that is
scheduled to take effect in the year 2004. So, when smoking becomes banne=
d
in all restaurants, bars and clubs, smoking will also be banned at indoor
"rave" events.]

8. Security

One bonded and OPP licensed security for every entrance location (secure =
the
site) and one for every 100 patrons.

9. Paid Duty Officers

As a guideline, for raves in excess of 500 patrons, there will be a minim=
um
of two Paid Duty Officers (PDO's), and a ratio of one per 500 patrons. Ba=
sed
on a review of the location and availability of private security, the
commander of the appropriate police division may amend this guideline.

Note: Police cannot, by providing PDO's, tacitly endorse events which in =
any
way do not meet legal requirements.

10. Ambulance Services

For raves with more than 1,000 patrons, the promoter will contract with
Ambulance Services for the provision of paramedical services during peak
hours (minimum four hours).

11. Drug/Health Education

All organizers will provide space for community-based drug and health
education projects. The specific project to provide services will be at t=
he
discretion of the organizer. Organizers agree to donate a portion of prof=
its
to non-profit drug/health education projects of their choice. This
contribution is not intended to replace adequate city funding of drug/hea=
lth
education projects.

12. Communications

Organizers will communicate to appropriate city authorities the confirmed
location and the estimated maximum number of patrons for an event at leas=
t
one week in advance of the event. This will, in turn, be communicated by =
MLS
to the offices of those Ward Councillors who have requested such
notification.

13. Definition of a Rave

A rave is a public, all ages, commercial electronic music event held in a
special event venue attended by ticket or pass holders generally extendin=
g
into hours when entertainment venues are usually closed.

14. Review of Requirements

These standards will be reviewed periodically. Such a review will include
organizers of various-sized events, patrons, and other key stakeholders s=
uch
as security companies, venue owners, and health projects and will include
options such as licensing of rave organizers.



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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:51:31 -0800
From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) ooh crickey, wot a scorcher! -- feb 5th

I read through the regulations.. All I can say is that Toronto has it all
figured out.  I'd rather go to a clean, drug free (well.. pseudo drug free
:) ) party then a skanky warehouse rave.

Spokane, WA has had some nasty ass raves.  I've been to warehouse raves ($15
cover) that are well over 90 degrees F inside.. ceilings, walls & floors
covered with a heavy slick of water due to *NO* ventilation (condensation of
sweat & breath)... vomit on the floor... bring your own water... and we're
only talking 100-500 kids (rarely do they get near 1000 attendees)... and
they get shut down by midnight because they're not licensed... cops show up
and bust anyone that can't walk a straight line...  It's shit like this that
gives raves a bad rap.

My $00.02USD



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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:10:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) LTJ  /  Toronto

> Well, this list is kinda dead right now, so I'll ask a question or two.
Does
>  LTJ Bukem have any good non-mix albums?  I find that his choice of other
>  musicians usually sucks, but he himself does some fine D&B.  (Of course,
I'm
>  only judging it with Logical Progressions, but it's a double-album at
least.)
>
i dont kno about ltj, as far as having non mix albums
i have logical progression, its one of my favs
i was going to pick up the disc with mc conrad,
and the second disc was jus the same thing, but instrumental
but i hear that conrad kinda ruins ltjs style
i dont kno about any of you, but i dont think id want an mc
atop beautiful atmospheric grooves.....  rather have a female vocalist....

anyways, if u like progression, check out faithmassive-visions
i just picked it up the other day, its nice and relaxing
and it isnt a mix cd, its original material....

>Saying nodrugs  (yeah, whatever! :)
>Three, what the hell is wrong with markers?
>
those things are said for a reason....
1. its obvious that people are still going to do drugs
    but if a party gets shut down
    and there are drugged people all over
    the promoters, etc, are not held responisble (or should not be)
    so its all to keep the people who are bringing us these shows
    out of jail, so that they can bring us more :)
2. as for markers/stickers etc....
    even though you and i might not be,
    alot of people tend to be assholes
    and want to put their name all over a venue
    which also hurts us, because the owner of the venue
    may not want to have shows there anymore
    because assholes name is all over their walls/floors/toilets

thats all i gotta say :)
*


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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:12:51 -0500
From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Warehouse raves

Ian Mahuron wrote:
>
> Spokane, WA has had some nasty ass raves.  I've been to warehouse raves ($15
> cover) that are well over 90 degrees F inside.. ceilings, walls & floors
> covered with a heavy slick of water due to *NO* ventilation (condensation of
> sweat & breath)... vomit on the floor... bring your own water... and we're
> only talking 100-500 kids (rarely do they get near 1000 attendees)... and
> they get shut down by midnight because they're not licensed... cops show up
> and bust anyone that can't walk a straight line...  It's shit like this that
> gives raves a bad rap.

Heh, yeah.  The one I was talking about wasn't that bad, but it was dirty,
humid, and way too crowded.  They didn't open up the other floors either.  At
about 2 hours after I paid my $25, the cops and fire marshall showed up and shut
down the party because Evolution didn't have a permit.  Of course, there was no
refunds and they made a shitload of money for a cancelled concert.

Do you know what the sad thing is?  Most people blamed the cops.  For once, they
were just doing their job.  Evolution has been a corporate load of bullshit.
They prey on the newcomers and unwary to soak as much money as they can get.
The whole thing has prompted me to eventually start a non-corporate, public web
site for the Louisville rave scene called Louisville PLUR Association
(www.lpa.org).  I'll probably start it in April or so.

(Fortunately, the other orgs we have here are non-profit with good parties.)

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:36:34 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) LTJ Bukem and Trip-Hop...

> Well, this list is kinda dead right now, so I'll ask a question or two.  Does
> LTJ Bukem have any good non-mix albums?  I find that his choice of other
> musicians usually sucks, but he himself does some fine D&B.  (Of course, I'm
> only judging it with Logical Progressions, but it's a double-album at least.)
>
Bukem is bliss, the king of DnB, no annoying raggatoasting (very
few ragga-DnB tracks that i like!) just true oldschool JUNGLE (That
what it was called back then in London! I know you Americans have a
different definition!) from one of the inventors of this flavor of
Techno..
I dunno for sure, but i think lots of the stuff on logical
progression is from him.. also make sure to grab progression
sessions, that one rocks aswell! I find the stuff he chooses for his
own mixes VERY good, just Earth 1-3 isn't great, however the album
said that his aim in this was to give unknown good musicians a way to
distribute their music by using his fame. From what i figured that is
the ONLY reason why his name is on the cover! 8)
As for single tracks that he made himself, these are pretty rare i'd
say, i have a few of them here like Atlantis, Music, Cosmic
Interlude, Demon's Theme, Horizons and Moodswings (that's pretty much
it, atleast for my Bukem-collection! <:-)
Ah yes, almost forgot, and i do have this mixtape from him that i
bought from some 'mobile bootleg'-dude (who was arguing already
back then with some American about what Jungle really was! 8)
Brendan, any Chance you were in London in August 94? 8) on Camden
Market way back in 94 (when DnB had just been invented right there!
8) It was pretty exciting! Big DnB/Jungle events, all the Clubs
were filled..), it has been played over and over and it's really
brilliant, prolly his best works ever!.. It starts off with the poem
that (what an american friend told me) some black lady poet read on
Clintons Inaugural Speech ("A rock, a river, a tree..") and it
TOTALLY kills cause it blends so nicely with the music! I REALLY need
to rip and remaster it someday and make a nice fat 120MB mp3 and
spread it so the world is not withheld this true gem! ;-)

> Also, what exactly is Trip-Hop, IYO?  I hear a lot of different definitions of
> trip-hop, from instrumental hip-hop to toned-down D&B.  Most argee that DJ
> Food/Coldcut does do trip-hop, but DJ Food's "A Recipe for Disaster" sounds like
> a jazz/R&B album than was engineered, instead of done with instruments.  (But I
> still adhere to the idea that the method of the sound production doesn't define
> the catagory.)
>
I'd call it Hip Hop with a Techno arrangement.. Or Techno with a Hip
Hop beat and sometimes lyrics...
Pretty much anything, basically, the definition always was too vague
to really tell, i mean with DnB you have the Breakbeats and you have
the bass, fairly easy to say, but if you say genre X with influence Y
it tells you shit cause any genre in itself varies too much so a
synthesis of both can NEVER be classified specifically which you,
as we all know have as your favourite pastime!.. >;-D So i guess
Triphop will stay a pain in the ass for your collection since it
can't be classified! 8) You really should start sorting it after
other criteria, e.g. how much you like it, or if it's laid
back/chillout, freak out or happy sounding which i like to do as it
allows you to choose the music you feel like listening to right now!
8)
Brendan, didn't we have the Triphop discussion already? 8) I kinda
feel like it, but it might have just been one of the other COUNTLESS
genre discussions you have brought up! >;-P

> (You guys hate me for bringing up another definition argument, don't you? :)
>
Yes! 8)

DeeKay


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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:47:22 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) jungle...

well, i tired to send out an email about a jungle show in philly
cuz i thought some of you might be interested....
but it bounced... guess im not allowed to do that sort of thing
anyways, if any of you are interested, let me know, and ill send you the
lineup :)
i am not affiliated with this show whatsoever
i just want to strengthen the philly jungle scene.....

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:42:20 GMT
From: "Steven Carver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Trip-Hop...

> > Also, what exactly is Trip-Hop, IYO?  I hear a lot of different
>definitions of
> > trip-hop, from instrumental hip-hop to toned-down D&B.  Most argee that
>DJ
> > Food/Coldcut does do trip-hop, but DJ Food's "A Recipe for Disaster"
>sounds like
> > a jazz/R&B album than was engineered, instead of done with instruments.
>(But I
> > still adhere to the idea that the method of the sound production doesn't
>define
> > the catagory.)
> >
>I'd call it Hip Hop with a Techno arrangement.. Or Techno with a Hip
>Hop beat and sometimes lyrics...

I always thought that trip-hop was the stuff with drums that have been put
under really heavy compression, so that you get this really toll sound where
they sound really loud but in terms of decibels are about normal level.
Portishead - aren't they trip-hop? Or have I missed the mark altogether?

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:13:28 GMT
From: "Richard Belbin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Trip-Hop...

>
>I always thought that trip-hop was the stuff with drums that have been put
>under really heavy compression, so that you get this really toll sound
>where
>they sound really loud but in terms of decibels are about normal level.
>Portishead - aren't they trip-hop? Or have I missed the mark altogether?
>

>I always thought that trip-hop was the stuff with drums that have been put
>under really heavy compression, so that you get this really toll sound
>where
>they sound really loud but in terms of decibels are about normal level.
>Portishead - aren't they trip-hop? Or have I missed the mark altogether?
>

This sounds a pretty reasonable description to me.  I've always thought of
trip hop as somewhat stoned, kinda spooky hip hop,  generally much slower,
almpost always much darker in tone.  Portishead, Massice attack ,Tricky -
hell just about anybody who ever lived in Bristol seems to get the accolade.
  I've hardly heard any new stuff tho in the last year that I can think of.

On Bukem - cant think of anything else new from him either (in his own write
that is, the earth album is pretty like Log Prog, bit jazzier tho) but check
out the Breakbeat Era album (Roni Size, DJ Die & co) deep dark & long.
Flaming A!


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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:32:15 +0000
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Satan - Rhyme And Reason Mix

At 15:48 10/01/00 +0000, Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt) wrote:

>I have a copy of this track.
>Who is it that's singing?
>
>This reminds me of the Shamen.

Rhyme and Reason also did the rap on The Shamen's "Make It Mine".


cheers,
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:23:28 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) San Francisco

Anyone know of any cool places with music, or website, based in San
Francisco. Esp.. Trip-hop, or drum n bass, but anything will do. I know there
is life around here someplace but I have no idea where to find it.


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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:40:19 -0500
From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) San Francisco

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Anyone know of any cool places with music, or website, based in San
> Francisco. Esp.. Trip-hop, or drum n bass, but anything will do. I know there
> is life around here someplace but I have no idea where to find it.

There's a site caleed SF Station that has all sorts of city happenings
http://www.sfstation.com/

Shannon+on+on :)
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:13:55 -0800
From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) San Francisco

SF is famous for House music.. FYI.

Here's a great guide for club scene:
http://bayarea.sidewalk.citysearch.com/E/F/SFOCA/0000/12/08/
This breaks it down by genre:
http://bayarea.sidewalk.citysearch.com/San_Francisco/Nightlife/

Make sure you go to "The Top" on Fridays.. Robbie Hardkiss often spins
records there.  Hell.. most nights at The Top are good.. cheap cover too.



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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:21:43 -0500
From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) old orbital shirts

hullo hullo
i'm looking for the old navy blue orbital shirt with the squiggle on the
front and the oval orbital on the ass..
i got bleach on mine the last time i dyed my hair :[
and brain wants one too, so if anybody knows where we can grab two from [=
xl
for brain, l for me but xl or whatever would do].. it would be much
appreciated :]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:18:52 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) San Francisco

[e-mail] writes:
> Anyone know of any cool places with music, or website, based in San
>  Francisco. Esp.. Trip-hop, or drum n bass, but anything will do. I know
> there
>  is life around here someplace but I have no idea where to find it.

i know that there is a sf raves website and either a mailing list or message
board
im not sure what the site is, but im sure you could find it on yahoo....
i always get emails from the darkstep mailing list
about shows in sf
it makes me kinda jealous that im not out there
but the philly jungle scene is gonna blow up... just wait :)
anyways.... heres some info i got on a FREE show in sf...
i dont kno if youd be interested, its mostly experimental stuff...

> > > greetings ,
> > >  just want to extend an invite to a underground
> > > electronik event happening
> > > in san francisco.
> > > oscillation #1
> > > phil/lefthandeddecision/troniks mindframe 9-10
> > > (power
> > > electroniks/experimental)
> > > sarin/dekonstrukt 10-11 (power
> noise/experimental)
> > > foRm_viRus/rythmic_noize_cartel 11-1215
> > > (technoid/power noise)
> > > scottb/saVaK/pbr/unit 1215-130 (technoid/drum n
> > > noise/power noise)
> > > basswhoRe/kyron5/gun records (death
> jungle/dissonant
> > > idm/harsh gabber)
> > > San Francisco
> > > Ghia Gallery
> > > 1.15.2000
> > > 18 +  N/C
> > > Inclusive not Exclusive .
> > > http://www.troniks.com/oscillation/
> > > [e-mail]

and heres the info on the darkstep mailing list
if youre interested....

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:07:05 -0800
From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Trip-Hop...

> This sounds a pretty reasonable description to me.  I've always thought of
> trip hop as somewhat stoned, kinda spooky hip hop,  generally much slower,
> almpost always much darker in tone.  Portishead, Massice attack ,Tricky -
> hell just about anybody who ever lived in Bristol seems to get the
accolade.
>   I've hardly heard any new stuff tho in the last year that I can think
of.

For good trip hop, look to the Ninja Tune label.  Even Mo Wax has some trip
hop.  People Like DJ Shadow, DJ Krush, The Herbaliser, etc.  Yes Massive
Attack and Portishead are also trip hop.  Trip hop is pretty much defined as
anything that has a hip hop styled (usually break beat) beat that is some
what slow and is not made for dancing.  And it is usually made
electronically, but not always.  That is a definition of Trip Hop.  Anything
that falls under that could (emphasize could) be called trip hop.  It is not
as specific as a lot of people think it is.  Some people will even call
groups like Fila Brazillia and Unkle trip hop.  Even some Ae/Gescom can be
called trip hop.  And this is not just my opinion, this is the general
census that I have gotten after hearing many trip hop compilations put out
by Ninja Tune and other labels.
Well, someone wanted to know.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:44:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) Trip-Hop...

In a message dated 1/12/00 2:08:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:
<< For good trip hop, look to the Ninja Tune label.   >>

aaaah... ninjatune  :)

just a random question....
has anyone heard the om records compilations... om lounge 1 & 2?

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 06:01:11 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) live and direct from the london underground...

'ello orbitalers..
just wanted to let some of you know that i'll be helping out at an internet radio show this afternoon, the 12th, from 3-5 pm.  "helping out" entails bugging my friend dj etna to play orbital tracks, and dancing around in front of the webcam....

http://www.interface-radio.co.uk

please join us in the chat room if you can..:)
thanksforyourtime+space,cheers,
aaron:::::::::::::::::::::::::
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:36:59 -0500
From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) ORBITAL ALTITUDE and INCLINATION

Hey All,
Sorry ahead of time if this pisses you off[topic], BUTT!
There is Orbital around and over our home!

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Cheers!
ShannON+ON+ON
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:18:38 -0800
From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) San Francisco

Check hyperreal.org for SF Raves website.  I know the NW Raves website is
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:42:58 +0100
From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Cream 2000

This evening has been so hotly discussed on this list I don't really know what I can add!

There was a great atmosphere at the event as soon as we arrived 7pm ish, everybody seemed in a
good mood even though there didn't seem to be much drugs running around (at least quite a few
people complained about it). Nobosy cared it was the Millennium and they we're going to enjoy
themselves.
The cloak room/tent was a waste of time, you had to queue up in the rain for over an hour to
use it - easier to just wear it or wrap it round your waste.
Space, Lightening Seeds and Stereophonics all had a great reception but who cares about
poppy guitar bands?
Next one on was Paul Oakenfold a toss pot local DJ who put on a few commercial dance records.
Cream people are very much into to this DJ worship and overground dance culture. Not exactly
my cup of tea.
Orbital finally took the stage at 11:30 and launched into Impact. the music wasn't really loud
enough and they had the ceiling lights up a bit too bright. A good Orbital gig should be just the bands
screens and lights and a lot louder so it all just buries into your head. The DJ worship crowd didn't
seem to get what Orbital are about, so the vibe when they were playing wasn't as good as it
had been earlier in the evening and not as good as previous Orbital gigs I've been to.
The played Halycon next which the crowd enjoyed, then Know Where To Run (I think - memory of it
is fading) then went into Dr Who another crowd pleaser when the beat kicked in.
They finished playing and a minute countdown apeared on the 6 screens. Everybody just when crazy!
A whole minute of 35,000 people just screaming at the tops of their voices. At zero 2000 with fireworks
flashed up the screens for a few minutes (no actual fireworks went off).
After a few minutes they started to really long mutated version of Chime. After that a switch back to
1999 for Satan. They finished off with Style (a bad choice I think as it's a bit of a weak track for
a dance crowd). The brothers left and it was DJ's for the next 6.5 hours, if you could stomach it.

That was it, no planetary meltdown, no Jesus coming down from heaven! Just an average gig with
the wrong crowd, but that's just my opinion. Not the best I've seen them but still a good night out.
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