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orbital-digest        Friday, January 29 1999        Volume 02 : Number 164




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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:58:02 -0700
From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital)  Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3

Jon wrote in response to my query "Has anyone heard [Plastikman's] track
titled Sickness?   I just got it on the >Novamute comp CD, and it is a
killer":

>>>certainly is, in fact that whole comp is (I presume you mean
'Kompilation'), especially the Darren Price tracks (his album's great,
with those two on it too), Steve Stoll's 'Circuit Sex' and the Emmanuel
Top one.<<<

Fully concur with this assessment.   The Darren Price tracks are super,
almost a new genre of trance.  Where did you find his album, and is it
available on CD?
And how about the Speedy J track?   Unlike anything he's done before.
Very hard, very dangerous stuff.

Yesterday I got my copy of the Worm Interface comp alternate frequencies
3.  This features a superb Gescom track and several Autechre-style (in a
good sense, not derivative but plowing new ground in their style) tracks
by Freeform and others.   Great stuff.   If you like Ae and Bola, get
it!





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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:00:14 -0500
From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) most paid for a CD?

>so stop bitching ;)

Who's bitching?  :)  I live in America.   I pay 12-13 bucks for a normal CD,
and around 17-25 for imports.  Singles are like $7.

:D

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:06:00 +0000
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital)  Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3

At 13:58 27/01/99 -0700, Skip Acuff wrote:

>The Darren Price tracks are super,
>almost a new genre of trance.  Where did you find his album, and is it
>available on CD?

direct from Novamute. You can get at their website through www.mutelibtech.com but I don't know if they've got online ordering yet.

>And how about the Speedy J track?   Unlike anything he's done before.
>Very hard, very dangerous stuff.

they're both quite like the stuff on his last album 'Public Energy no 1' (the original mixes are on there) and the 'Patterns' single (same mix on there as on the komp, and a couple of others)


>Yesterday I got my copy of the Worm Interface comp alternate frequencies
>3.  This features a superb Gescom track and several Autechre-style (in a
>good sense, not derivative but plowing new ground in their style) tracks
>by Freeform and others.   Great stuff.   If you like Ae and Bola, get
>it!

and get 'Skampler' and '0161' too! Both are great.



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Jon
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:32:43 -0500
From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital)  Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3

>>Yesterday I got my copy of the Worm Interface comp alternate frequencies
>>3.  This features a superb Gescom track and several Autechre-style (in a
>>good sense, not derivative but plowing new ground in their style) tracks
>>by Freeform and others.   Great stuff.   If you like Ae and Bola, get
>>it!
>
>and get 'Skampler' and '0161' too! Both are great.

For the uninitiated, Bola "Soup" (get it? I think the next one is gonna be
called Chowder), Skampler, and 0161 are all on Skam (which Warp is now
offering on their web site (www.warprecords.com)).

I heard that Skampler got put out domestically by "Sirius," but an e-mail to
the label didn't turn up anything, and they don't have a web page.

The alt.freq series is on Worm Interface (as mentioned above.)

I haven't heard any of these, but they're highly recommended on the IDM
list.

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:26:54 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'....

In a message dated 99-01-25 12:27:03 EST, you write:

<<
 I agree and disagree.  Sure sellouts suck, but how many of us
 were brought into the world of techno by acts like prodigy?
  >>

not I. I heard the box eminating from my brothers room, who by the way is one
of those lovely scary hardcore death metal kinda guys.

sam.


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:39:04 +0000
From: Mad Iccy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Homelands Festival 29th-30th May 1999

Ok Everyone????
Sorry if this has come twice but my E:mail packed
in and I don't know if you saw it.......
Just another short note for anyone who is interested in the...


HOMELANDS FESTIVAL on the 29th-30th May


9 Arenas

Line-Up includes:
Underworld / Chemical Brothers / Asian Dub Foundation / Carl Cox /
Pete Tong / Jeremy Healy / Dave Angel / Mr C / Sasha / John Digweed /
Paul Oakenfold / Faithless / Danny Tengalia / Fat Boy Slim /
Danny Rampling / Judge Jules / Deep Dish / John Kelly etc etc etc

There is now  also a mailing list for line-up updates etc.

More Info at

http://www.madplanet.demon.co.uk/homelands

 -Cheers-
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:34:53 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) hah, I tricked you.

so, sub-genres of "techno".
how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends?

sam.


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:20:27 -0500
From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you.

At 09:34 PM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>so, sub-genres of "techno".
>how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends?

techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro, garage,
deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house, breakbeat house,
ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz step, hard step, dark
step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill & bass, artcore, happy
hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore, gabber, big beat, hard
hop.  That's all I can think of offhand. I'm sure others could add to the
list. We should see how long we can make it.

- -Morey




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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:36:49 +0100
From: Peter Lundholm <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) heh, I tricked you.

At 01.20 -0500 99-01-28, Morey Gamble wrote:
>At 09:34 PM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>so, sub-genres of "techno".
>>how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends?
>

here is an old list that is off the mark when it comes to the musical
examples... but it is a pretty good page if all you want is some kind of
labels ... I think this mailing list probably could straighten up the
labels with better music examples, or waddyathink?

http://kumo.swcp.com/synth/techno.html


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:35:11 GMT
From: "Andy Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Pullen push

> >there's also a remix of one of his songs as Ultraviolet called 'stacey
> >pullen remix', anyone care to tell me who this is (if indeed stacey
> >pullen is a band, that is)?

Stacey has also released stuff under the name 'Silent Phase'. Very
Detroit if you ask me...which is hardly a surprise.

Over here in the UK, Stacey is a girl's name. But I think Stacey P is
a fella.



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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 03:15:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) RE New Underworld Album

I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to
say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the
others are ok.

Elliot




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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:15:13 +0000 (GMT)
From: Ed Blackshaw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'....

| <<
|  I agree and disagree.  Sure sellouts suck, but how many of us
|  were brought into the world of techno by acts like prodigy?
|   >>
|
| not I. I heard the box eminating from my brothers room, who by the way
| is one of those lovely scary hardcore death metal kinda guys.
|

And I was saved from the clutches of 'metal' at the age of fifteen by a
knackered 3rd generation copy of Eat Static's Abduction...
Anyway, no-one had heard of the Prodigy back then...

Ed

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:04:25 +0100
From: Peter Lundholm <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(orbital) RE New Underworld Album

At 03.15 -0800 99-01-28, Elliot Bancroft wrote:
>I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to
>say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the
>others are ok.
>
>Elliot


But puhleez!!! Where!!!?????


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:24:42 -0500
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you.

>techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro, garag=
e,
>deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house, breakbeat house,
>ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz step, hard step, dark
>step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill & bass, artcore, happy
>hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore, gabber, big beat, hard
>hop.  That's all I can think of offhand. I'm sure others could add to th=
e
>list. We should see how long we can make it.


terrorcore, speedcore, rotterdam, hard house, jungle, breaks, funky
breaks...

~plur~
aim=E9e



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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:18:41 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:(orbital) RE New Underworld Album

When was this album released then???  Presuming that you are in the UK??




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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:25:10 -0600
From: ffwd <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital)  Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3

Skip Acuff wrote:

> Jon wrote in response to my query "Has anyone heard [Plastikman's] track
> titled Sickness?   I just got it on the >Novamute comp CD, and it is a
> killer":

bad-ass track i must say.

> Fully concur with this assessment.   The Darren Price tracks are super,
> almost a new genre of trance.  Where did you find his album, and is it
> available on CD?

it should be. it's entitled "under the flight path." i think he also released
the airspace EP which i'm still trying to find. saw it once, shoulda bought
it.

> And how about the Speedy J track?   Unlike anything he's done before.
> Very hard, very dangerous stuff.

speedy j just kicks ass. i prefer his older stuff personally (ginger, g-spot),
but the remix of patterns sounds a lot like his latest album "public energy
#1" pretty good imho, a definite buy.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:28:09 +0100
From: Peter Lundholm <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(orbital)  Novamute Kompilation and Alt.freq.3

At 13.58 -0700 99-01-27, Skip Acuff wrote:
>Jon wrote in response to my query "Has anyone heard [Plastikman's] track
>titled Sickness?   I just got it on the >Novamute comp CD, and it is a
>killer":
>
>>>>certainly is, in fact that whole comp is (I presume you mean
>'Kompilation'), especially the Darren Price tracks (his album's great,
>with those two on it too), Steve Stoll's 'Circuit Sex' and the Emmanuel
>Top one.<<<
>
>Fully concur with this assessment.   The Darren Price tracks are super,
>almost a new genre of trance.  Where did you find his album, and is it
>available on CD?
>And how about the Speedy J track?   Unlike anything he's done before.
>Very hard, very dangerous stuff.


Oooh, that Speedy J track is my current favourite - together with Darren
Price...

The remix is so much better than the original which lack all the energy
that the remix have!


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:31:20 -0600
From: ffwd <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Plastikman followup

Skip Acuff wrote:

> Has anyone heard his track titled Sickness?

yep.

> I just got it on the
> Novamute comp CD, and it is a killer.

definitely.

> Way more interesting than the
> stuff on Consumed, imo (but to be fair I have only tried to get through
> Consumed once; now that I've heard Sickness, I'll give it another go
> round).   Comments?

definitely give consumed a few more tries. it's a lot different than his other
albums, but i wouldn't say it's weaker. also, you might want to pick up
"artifakts," "musik," "recycled plastik" and if you can find it "sheet one."
they're all good. and if you can find it the sickness EP which also has
pannikattak and one other song that i can't remember.


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:04:29 +0100
From: Peter Lundholm <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(orbital) RE New Underworld Album

At 14.18 +0000 99-01-28, [e-mail] wrote:
>When was this album released then???  Presuming that you are in the UK??


I think it will be released 1st of march in europe... apparently not in the
u.k?


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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:23:29 -0500
From: STARpango <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) RE New Underworld Album

At 03:15 AM 1/28/99 -0800, you wrote:
>
>I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to
>say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the
>others are ok.
>
>Elliot
so what's the track listing??


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:44:07 +0100
From: "Wouter Hermans" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) New Underworld Album

> >I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to
> >say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the
> >others are ok.
> >
> >Elliot
> so what's the track listing??

umm surf to http://www.dirty.org and you'll know.  also, dirty.org (the
official underworld site) will get a re-design in a few hours... at 8AM GMT
(london time) that'll be up :)


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:50:06 -0000
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Depeche Mode

TRYM WROTE
>depeche mode are one of my favourites too, and i mean to remember from
>somewhere that i once heard the term 'industrial techno/new age' about
>them, but i never really thought much more of it. when you raise the
>question now, i'm equally clueless, but the term i mention still seems a
>bit correct with depeche mode having that "industrial" sound. like so
>many other depeche fans though, i'm sad to say i'm one of the masses who
>think "enjoy the silence" is best and "personal jesus" makes me think of
>westerns.

I also love Depeche Mode...their moody lyrics and general electronic sound
really is inspirational. Martin Gore must be one of the greatest song and
lyric writers on this planet at the moment (thats my view...obviously).
"Enjoy the Silence", "Walking in my Shoes", "New Life", "Black Celebration",
"Blas.. Rumours" etc - i love so many of the trax....
As for the music term i would use for them....ermmm....they were classed
towards Modern Romance in the 80s...hoho....but as for now....Electronic
summit or another ;)


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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:21:13 -0800
From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Lumo

hey all, i got a tape sent from Lumo today after i spoke to him at cosmic
carrot 2 weeks ago, and it's very good. anyone coming to see him on the 26th
of feb at the same venue?

reece



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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:31:06 -0800
From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you.

>>so, sub-genres of "techno".
>>how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends?
>
>techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro, garage,
>deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house, breakbeat house,
>ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz step, hard step, dark
>step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill & bass, artcore, happy
>hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore, gabber, big beat, hard
>hop.  That's all I can think of offhand. I'm sure others could add to the
>list. We should see how long we can make it.


you can't forget about acid techno!

reece



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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:27:51 -0800
From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) still on about what I call 'techno'....

>And I was saved from the clutches of 'metal' at the age of fifteen by a
>knackered 3rd generation copy of Eat Static's Abduction...
>Anyway, no-one had heard of the Prodigy back then...


aaaaaaaaah, abduction :)



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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:51:41 -0500
From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Techno/Creativity/Most Expensive etc...

Just to chip in several two centses at once on all these recent
thread...

RE: Techno Terms   I used to call it "electronica" back when I was young
and innocent, then I found out MTV coined the term and dropped it like a
hot potato. I used to say electronic music until recently because that
could encompass a whole wider range of stuff than Orbital & co. if you
think of it the right way. "Intelligent techno" in the narrower sense
was stuff like Warp's AI series... much more thin, melodic, slinky,
spacey type techno that does offer up a groove right at first listen. In
other words you can't just hear it, you have to listen to it :)

RE: Popularity and Selling Out  It's a sad truth that people will value
money more than the music, and in most cases that means crap but not
always ... but what really steams my clams about sell-out popular techno
and pop in general is its lack of creativity. Music is at essence about
creativity because it is ART, making up new sounds and taking new
directions. Instead a lot of people stick to what they know because
they're afraid of losing their jobs if they try something new.

Take (forgive me) Backstreet Boys, Nsync and company... I read an
article recently confirming my suspicions that the music industry just
keeps pumping out these gloopy teenybopper bubblegum groups ala
"timeless classic formula." 1 heartthrob "sweet guy" singer + 1 "bad
boy" singer + a couple other singers + songs that are either about love
or about how great they are at making music + no yarbles = hit band!
And also rappers who've blatantly ripped off songs from Bruce Hornsby &
Led Zepplin just because that'll earn them some instant appeal. That's
not art, that's BUSINESS: sticking to what you know works in order to
make the green. Other groups also make a lot of music that keeps to the
same general style, which I don't have a major problem with, but Orbital,
Aphex, Ae, FSOL are stylistically everywhere at once and that kicks
arse... what music is all about.

RE: my most expensive purchase... I paid $25 this summer for an import
of LP5... it was also partially because my parents were there with me
and I got to rub it in their noses :)  I love the album though,
innovative to the extreme... ok I'll go away now...
                            KEL
PS: Sorry about the yarbles comment... it's only a small portion of my
wrath towards them ... :)




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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:14:25 -0500
From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) New warp shtuff

Hey you guys, since I'm gonna probably go for some imports sooner or
later, does anyone have the new Warp trio of Peelsessions EPs (Autechre,
Boards of Canada, Black Dog) and if so what're they like? And has anyone
else seen the cover to Aphex's Windowlicker single? YUM :)

And to make this a worthwhile post: I've been e-mailing Mike Golding of
B12 and he said they'll have a new album out this year... some promos
are already on the market too he said. In addition Black Dog Productions
(still at one-third its old self) is most likely gonna have a new album
this year as well. I think he also mentioned that Plaid has done some
recent remixing work... so some more tasty stuff from Warp coming down
the pike soon... try not to mess yourself :)

- - KEL




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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:57:22 PST
From: "_Quasar- ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) different styles

Hello Orbital Headz check out this site for info on some of the
different genres of "techno".


http://www.plato.nl/e-primer/

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:11:13 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) this techno popularity thing

It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in,
if
a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really
wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the
posts.
If people think that way, they could at least admit it...


        Okay, heres the way I think of it... Take Prodigy for an
example. I love their old stuff, I think they truely rad! They dont
sound like everything else and they have got awesome videos. Yet... they
somehow manage to come out with fat of the land (which I really dont
care for) and BOOM ...its the coolest thing since someone sliced a loaf
of bread in someone elses kitchen! It gets lots of airplay and suddenly
everybody associates Prodigy and fat of the land with techno... and now
its like Ive almost got to defend the whole techno genere against fat of
the land... (because theres much better stuff out there).... hahahahaha
is it making any sense? hope so. Anyways if someone asks me if i like
prodigy i just smile and say "yeah.... pre-fat of the land"..
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:51:23 -0800
From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) prod, plastik, stardust

>> I dunno, seems like I read that Stardust has sold close to a million and
a
>>half copies,
>
>I still can't understand what anybody sees in that track, it's awful!


well, I'm guilty of buying this single, but let me give an explanation.  I
first heard it at a rave that I was having much fun at.  I think that the
song does not express any talent at all, but it is still catchy.


I have a question for all of you Plastikman fanatics.  I really cannot get
into Ritchie Hawtin at all.  I have recently downloaded the mp3's from
Artifaks, and I like Rekall and Pakard.  Can anyone recommend some of his
other work that is similar to these two traks?  I want to give him a try and
need a place to start.  Another question is how many traks are on Artifaks?
I have downloaded all of the ones from the official site (4 of them)  are
there anymore songs on the disk?  it's like $21.99 cdn out here and if it's
only 4 songs, I don't want to pay that much.

Oh, just thought of another question and I might as well send it all in one
post.
People have mentioned Rufig Cru on the list a little bit back.  I have their
song Terminator II and totally love it.  Do they have an album or EP's out,
and is this the same group that is on the PLatinum Breaks set?  the credits
for it read as follows: Goldi for Rufig Cru Productions and Internal Affairs
. . . 1993 Reinforced Records  So is this actually Goldie?  (it is actually
spelled Goldi on the disk)
Any help on ahy of these questions would be much appreciated.
thank ya
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 22:11:20 +0000
From: Ed Blackshaw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) hah, I tricked you.

On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 14:31:06 -0800 Reece H <[e-mail]> wrote:

|
| >>so, sub-genres of "techno".
| >>how many are there and can I have a list to impress my punk friends?
| >
| >techno, goa/psychedelic trance, epic/progressive trance, NRG/Euro,
| garage, >deep house, acid house, tech house, progressive house,
| breakbeat house, >ambient house, ambient, illbient, trip hop, jazz
| step, hard step, dark >step, tech step,weird step, neurofunk, drill &
| bass, artcore, happy >hardcore, trancecore, regular plain old hardcore,
| gabber, big beat, hard >hop.  That's all I can think of offhand. I'm
| sure others could add to the >list. We should see how long we can make
| it.
|
|
| you can't forget about acid techno!
|

But what about handbag, and eurotrash...

You can't have Ying without Yang  ;-)

Ed

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 1956 22:13:15 +0000
From: Ed Blackshaw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) this techno popularity thing

On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 23:11:13 -0800 [e-mail] wrote:

|
| It is also funny that on almost any music related list I participate in,
| if
| a band becomes successful - it suddenly becomes a "bad" band... I really
| wonder why. Everybody denies that, but I can read it in many of the
| posts.
| If people think that way, they could at least admit it...
|
|
|         Okay, heres the way I think of it... Take Prodigy for an
| example. I love their old stuff, I think they truely rad! They dont
| sound like everything else and they have got awesome videos. Yet... they
| somehow manage to come out with fat of the land (which I really dont
| care for) and BOOM ...its the coolest thing since someone sliced a loaf
| of bread in someone elses kitchen! It gets lots of airplay and suddenly
| everybody associates Prodigy and fat of the land with techno... and now
| its like Ive almost got to defend the whole techno genere against fat of
| the land... (because theres much better stuff out there).... hahahahaha
| is it making any sense? hope so. Anyways if someone asks me if i like
| prodigy i just smile and say "yeah.... pre-fat of the land"..
| [e-mail]

I have two words to say to that...

SPOT ON!


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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 03:44:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:(orbital) RE New Underworld Album

- ---Peter Lundholm <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> At 03.15 -0800 99-01-28, Elliot Bancroft wrote:
> >I just got a copy of the new underworld album - BEAUCOUP FISH. Got to
> >say - that it is pretty good. Some of the tracks amazing and the
> >others are ok.
> >
> >Elliot
>
>
> But puhleez!!! Where!!!?????
>
Promo how else do you think I got it. Actually - it is an acetate copy
- - yunno one of the orignal pressings
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:23:14 -0500
From: Patrick McGinn <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) New warp shtuff

>===== Original Message From Kel <[e-mail]> =====
>Hey you guys, since I'm gonna probably go for some imports sooner or
>later, does anyone have the new Warp trio of Peelsessions EPs (Autechre,
>Boards of Canada, Black Dog) and if so what're they like? And has anyone
>else seen the cover to Aphex's Windowlicker single? YUM :)


Why would you import them?  They're available domestically from Nothing for 9
bucks a piece.  You can find em for 8, too.  But really, even going at 8
bucks, that's 24 dollars for 60 minutes worth of music...  You gotta be a real
fan to pay that much.  I'd get a CD-R of the set and then pick up the ones you
really want.

As for the single...  I'm waiting for the VIDEO :)))

Another Chris Cunningham masterpiece.  Somebody (please God, not MTV) should
give that man an award.

Xaos
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