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orbital-digest       Thursday, September 3 1998       Volume 02 : Number 117




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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:39:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) trance europe..

my two fave tracks on that are 030's "midnight in europe" and cosmic baby's
"spacetrack," the latter of which is somewhat of a classic. much of the rest
of the set is throwaway, if you ask me.

later,
ben


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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 12:25:06 -0400
From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) LP5 Sticker??

Hey, I hate to be offtopic again, but I've noticed the sticker on my
copy of LP5 has a misspelling. If anyone has the sticker still on their
copy of it, check it. it's got the copyright and bar code and things on
it, and the first line says:

"ae prodution booth\brown"

Does anyone else have this problem on their sticker? Does anyone still
have the sticker? I just wanted to write, see if this makes it extra
valuable :) later
                            KEL




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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:52:24 +0100
From: Tim <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) fwd : Hartnoll appearance?

This was posted to uk.music.rave yesterday... is this appearance likely?

(fwd text)

Phil Earle of law&auder in collaboration with several independent
electronica labels, Blue Planet Records, Hydrogen Jukebox, Recordings of
Substance, Leaf Label, Lo Recordings, Ninja Tune, Rephlex Records,
Sprawl Imprint, Worm Interface, Freerange Records, The Somerset Unified
Sound and the Irish based Ultramac Productions, has brought together a
superb collection of  artists from the world of experimental electronica

to present
The Monastery of Sound
E L E C T R O N I C A  F E S T I V A L
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on the site of a 10 century premonstratensian abbey founded in 1154
(A 50 acre site owned by a young British couple)

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Echo Park, Freeform, Girl Eats Boy Sound System, Icarus, Jimpster,
Kosmic Kommander, Kumo, Luke Vibert (WAGON CHRIST/PLUG), Mix Master
Morris (tbc), Mung, Muslimgauze, *Paul Hartnoll (ORBITAL)*, PCM, Pearl',
Phume, Plaid, Ramjack, Rhys Chatham, Richard James Rephlex All Stars,
Richard Thomas, Si-{Cut}. DB, Spongboy & Tench, Summit, The Bowling
Green, Witchman, The Somerset Unified Sound, and many many more.

=A350 gets you a coach from Victoria Station on Friday night, across the
channel, entry to site, an all day and all night party and back home
again for Sunday night, and since all the participants are appearing for
the very basic expenses, then ALL profits made will be donated to the
Big Issue Foundation.

Tickets / Box Office number
01225 868709

There will be serious limitations on the numbers that will be able to
attend due to the travel arrangements (Coaches and ferry bookings will
limit the numbers - first come first serve)


ALL profit made will be donated to the Big Issue Foundation.
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:46:14 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) changing.....

hey all, i finally came to the realization that aol's e-mail system isn't
worth keeping it around....ergo i'm switching the list to my hotmail
acct....so when you start seeing posts from [e-mail], it's me

- --matt


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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:54:16 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) An acquired taste?

In a message dated 98-08-22 15:03:02 EDT, you write:

<< I have only the Dead Cities FSOL CD. I like it but rarely listen to
 >it. How
 >does Cascade and Lifeforms compare to it? Thanks alot. Later.
 >AJ
 >

 ive never heard cascade, but i have Lifeforms.   i hate it.  i can't even
 listen to the whole thing all the way through.  it just sounds like a
 bunch of sounds.  Dead Cities is much better, but i don't even like that
 much.  i dunno, listen to it first.  supposedly cascade is good though.
  >>
FSOL seems to be a bit of an acquired taste....I wasn't big on them for a
while, but after I'd played Lifeforms and the Amorphous Androgynous album
(their best IMO) 10-20 or so times, I started to get into them....   In the
end though, I'd recommend you try to find a used copy of Cascade or My Kingdom
and if you can't get into it....well...maybe you should just find other groups
to spend your money on =)

- --matt


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Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 21:00:52 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) trance europe.. &  LP5 Sticker??

At 21:39 31/08/98 -0500, Nub wrote:
>
>my two fave tracks on that are 030's "midnight in europe" and cosmic baby's
>"spacetrack," the latter of which is somewhat of a classic. much of the rest
>of the set is throwaway, if you ask me.

There are one or two duffers, but I'd never call it throwaway. Especially
not in '93 when it came out. It was absolutely essential then. I prefer the
Source track and Scubadevils and the Moody Boyz. And of course the Sabres,
no matter how out of place that track is.


At 12:25 30/08/98 -0400, Kel wrote:
>
>"ae prodution booth\brown"
>
>Does anyone else have this problem on their sticker?

Yes. And it says "all rights of the producer and the owner of the recorded
work reversed" too.

>Does anyone still
>have the sticker? I just wanted to write, see if this makes it extra
>valuable :)

Doubt it, that's the kind of obtuse thing that TDR put on their sleeves.

cheers,
Jon

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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:02:01 -0500
From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) An acquired taste?

>  ive never heard cascade, but i have Lifeforms.   i hate it.  i can't
> even
>  listen to the whole thing all the way through.  it just sounds like a
>  bunch of sounds.  Dead Cities is much better, but i don't even like
> that
>  much.  i dunno, listen to it first.  supposedly cascade is good
> though.
>
>
I guess it is all personal opinion, because Dead Cities was the first
album that I bought of theirs, and I thought that it was just OK.  I
guess if you care for undancable industrial music (personal opinion)
then you would like it. That was the only time I have dared to put it in
my cd player.  I had heard so much good stuff about them, I figured I
should try again, so I bought Lifeforms.  Personally, this album is the
only reason I still listen to them.  So I guess this goes to show that
everyone has different tastes and never rule out an album until you hear
it yourself.


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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 23:16:30 -0400
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) WOOOOOOOOOOOOHAH

oh my GOD i just had one of the coolest orbital experiences of my life! i
was at canada's wonderland (a theme park here) and i stayed for the
laser/light/pyro/fireworks/etc show. the theme of it this year is 'nights=
 of
fire at the movies' or something.. anyway.. like the third song in (cuz i=
t's
all done to music) is...... THE SAINT!!!!! so i'm sitting there with my
light antennas (you know, glowing pink stars on wire that bob back and
forth) and my whistle (when i left today something told me to bring it...=
)
and i hear the saint start and i go INSANE.. hee.. and in those lasers th=
at
make shapes they had the stick man guy dancing.. hee it was soooooo cute..
and a semi-orbital logo type thing moving around.. it was AMAZING!... hee
and before the show i was blowing bubbles cuz i was bored (always keep a
well stocked backpack of toys) and allllllllll the little kids were smili=
ng
and batting at them (and big people too)... then as i was leaving i went =
to
try and switch pink stars for yellow stars but they didn't have em.. but =
i
started talking to the guy selling them about raves and the girl that was
with him and i gave them stickers and woo it was fun.
i'll shut up now.
if you're in southern ontario/the part of new york state we touch COME!! =
the
laser show runs at 10pm every night until sept 7.. i'm gonna see if i can=
 go
back with a camcorder and tape it.. mmmmmm
aim=E9e



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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:00:59 -0600
From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:58:12 -0500

OK, call me stupid but inside the leaflet of the Diversions CD, it shows
what looks to be a full length CD titled "Halcyon". Now, I know I may be
new to this but I have never seen it.  What happened to it?


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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:50:45 +0200
From: "Kenneth H." <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (orbital) An acquired taste?

>  ive never heard cascade, but i have Lifeforms.   i hate it.  i can't
> even
>  listen to the whole thing all the way through.  it just sounds like a
>  bunch of sounds.  Dead Cities is much better, but i don't even like
> that
>  much.  i dunno, listen to it first.  supposedly cascade is good
> though.


When I first heard Lifeforms, I thought it was truly horrible. I didn't =
like it at all, except Cascade.
Later, when I started to listen to Orbital, I desided to give FSOL a new =
chance. I bought Accelerator, and I loved it. I went on buying Cascade, =
which truly is one of the most magnificent tracks in the history of =
electronic music. Bought ISDN, a wonderful album, before buying =
Lifeforms and Dead Cities and later Amorphous, and some of the eps
I think the Lifeforms and Dead Cities are ok. Nothing more than that. =
Both have some truly magnificent tracks, but those magnificent tracks =
are on eps that are even more magnificent... (I'm thinking about Cascade =
and My Kingdom). Some of the stuff FSOL has done is quite unique and =
excellent, but they've also made some pretty mediocre stuff. Most =
require that you listen to them for quite a while. My point (if any) is, =
that you... uhm... ack, I forgot what I was gonna say. Whatever. Enjoy =
the music kids

Ta
Kenneth H.



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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:54:11 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (orbital) An acquired taste?

> When I first heard Lifeforms, I thought it was truly horrible. I didn't like it at al, except Cascade.
> Later, when I started to listen to Orbital, I desided to give FSOL a new chance
. I bought Accelerator, and I loved it. I went on buying Cascade,
which truly is one of the most magnificent tracks in t> I think the
Lifeforms and Dead Cities are ok. Nothing more than that. Both have
some truly magnificent tracks, but those magnificent acks are on eps
that are even more magnificent... (I'm thinking >

    Sorry about the horrible quoting, but you get the idea.. Anyway, my
first FSOL cd was ISDN, and lemme tell you, having only heard
'calcium' from accelerator, it was a nasty shock. (Hell, my first
orbital cd was snivilistaion) I think that anyone who is interested
in checking out FSOL should start with either the cascade single (as
mentioned before) or Accelerator. It's much more listener-friendly,
and it's also a true classic. I keep hearing house songs from this
year and last year that sounds similar to songs on accelerator that
are 6 or 7 years old. People are just now beginning to catch up to
where they were 6 years ago...




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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:10:43 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SV: (orbital) An acquired taste?

In a message dated 9/2/98 7:58:23 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<(Hell, my first orbital cd was snivilistaion)>>

What does that mean? Good or bad? Later.
AJ


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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:52:58 -0500
From: STARpango <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:58:12 -0500

>OK, call me stupid but inside the leaflet of the Diversions CD, it shows
>what looks to be a full length CD titled "Halcyon". Now, I know I may be
>new to this but I have never seen it.  What happened to it?

i saw it once for sale for $10.99 back in the spring of 95'.  i still kick
myself for not my buying it everytime someone on the list brings up the
question about it.  yeh it had a couple different versions of halcyon on
it...consult Loopz' discography for what exactly is on it.  and needless to
say i  have tried many of times to order it or find it but no chance has
found my luck....yet!

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:05:29 -0500
From: STARpango <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (orbital) An acquired taste?

>When I first heard Lifeforms, I thought it was truly horrible. I didn't
>like it at all, except Cascade.
>Later, when I started to listen to Orbital, I desided to give FSOL a new
>chance. I bought Accelerator, and I loved it. I went on buying Cascade,
>which truly is one of the most magnificent tracks in the history of
>electronic music. Bought ISDN, a wonderful album, before buying Lifeforms
>and Dead Cities and later Amorphous, and some of the eps
>I think the Lifeforms and Dead Cities are ok. Nothing more than that. Both
>have some truly magnificent tracks, but those magnificent tracks are on
>eps that are even more magnificent... (I'm thinking about Cascade and My
>Kingdom). Some of the stuff FSOL has done is quite unique and excellent,
>but they've also made some pretty mediocre stuff. Most require that you
>listen to them for quite a while. My point (if any) is, that you... uhm...
>ack, I forgot what I was gonna say. Whatever. Enjoy the music kids
>
>Ta
>Kenneth H.

i'd have to agree with most of the consensus on fsol.  a good deal of their
stuff is sometimes hard to swallow until after years have past it finally
clicks ... it's something all new and wonderful.  i have the My Kingdom EP
which tends toward a dark and mysterious trail but keeps a good groove
running.  Accelerator is all around good album ... and it is none
threatening to newbies of fsol's music.  The Papau New Guinea EP...which
Lequash sent me (thanks again for all the music i still listen to them
often) bends toward deep forest meets a little bit of industrial but still
remains to be a very catchy tune.  i think most have difficulty with the
facts that their music is mellow ambient, storylines with a darkness to
them ... it's not something that gets you dancing about.

mikey g




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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:12:46 -0500
From: STARpango <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Crystal Method And Josh Wink

while i'm posting i was wondering what you guys and gals have to say about
the crystal method in concert.  i've got tickets for their september 16th
show here in columbus, ohio and wanted to know who has seen them mostly
recently.  Sony/Nitrous Oxide for Playstation is hosting the concert so
that's a very cool plus side.  also Wink is coming into town to host
Clockwork on this coming sunday at RedZone (a phat dance club!!!) so can
somebody fill me in on what his sets are usually like...particularly those
of you who live in or near Philly... being his residency and everything.

thanx much, mikey g




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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 18:55:03 +0100
From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (orbital) An acquired taste?

At 20:05 02/09/98 -0500, STARpango wrote:

>i have the My Kingdom EP
>which tends toward a dark and mysterious trail but keeps a good groove
>running.

That's the kind of stuff of theirs I prefer, the ones with a beat to hold
it together. Otherwise they have too much of a tendency to head off into
wanky territory.

Anybody get the book with the limited 'Dead Cities'? Rather odd...


cheers,
Jon


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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:05:15 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (orbital) An acquired taste?

>
>
> In a message dated 9/2/98 7:58:23 PM, [e-mail] writes:
>
> <<(Hell, my first orbital cd was snivilistaion)>>
>
> What does that mean? Good or bad? Later.

    Just harder to get into.. All I had heard when I bought it was
Halcyon + On + On. I expected it to sound like that.. It's one of my
favorites now, right behind In Sides.


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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:05:15 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) The Crystal Method And Josh Wink

> while i'm posting i was wondering what you guys and gals have to say about
> the crystal method in concert.  i've got tickets for their september 16th
> show here in columbus, ohio and wanted to know who has seen them mostly
> recently.  Sony/Nitrous Oxide for Playstation is hosting the concert so
> that's a very cool plus side.  also Wink is coming into town to host
> Clockwork on this coming sunday at RedZone (a phat dance club!!!) so can
> somebody fill me in on what his sets are usually like...particularly those
> of you who live in or near Philly... being his residency and everything.

    Hmm. I saw Crystal Method in February, and the rocked the house. It
was kinda interesting watching the old-school crystal method fans
mingle with the mtv crystal method fans.. But everybody was bouncing,
either way. Very, very loud. One of the loudest shows I've been to.
(Behind only Gwar and Atari Teenage Riot) As for Josh Wink, whatever
you think of his songwriting skills, he's an excellent DJ. You should
probably go in not knowing what to expect since he has a tendency to
play a pretty wide range of stuff.

- -Morey
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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:11:03 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (orbital) An acquired taste?

> Anybody get the book with the limited 'Dead Cities'? Rather odd...

    It's great. Gives a whole new meaning to the CD, especially if you
flip through it slowly and read it all while listening... I honestly
think that you lose something without the book. It kind of ties
everything one the CD together nicely, I think.. But yes, it is
definitely odd..

now playing - superdiscount 'prix choc'

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:23:38 -0500
From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) The Crystal Method And Josh Wink

>     Hmm. I saw Crystal Method in February, and the rocked the house.
> It
> was kinda interesting watching the old-school crystal method fans
> mingle with the mtv crystal method fans.. But everybody was bouncing,
>
>
I also must say one of the loudest shows I have been to.  I show I saw
was very small, like a couple hundred people.  The only bad thing was
that the A/C didnt work and it was about 105 degrees inside!   But well
worth the money!  They are playing in Oklahoma City next week which is
about 45 minutes away from here, thinking of going again.

 Also........has anyone seen Cirrus live?  Are they worth spending the
money?  They are playing here (tulsa) tomorrow night and I am thinking
of going.......



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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:53:02 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SV: (orbital) An acquired taste?

In a message dated 9/3/98 6:17:43 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<Anybody get the book with the limited 'Dead Cities'? Rather odd... >>

I got the book with it. I thought it only came like that. IT was the only
reason that I bought it because I had never heard FSOL before, only heard of
them. In my opinion it is cooler than the CD. But it is strange. Later.
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:16:21 -0400
From: Danny Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Unsubscribing again...

Well, time to make the move to school.  This means I'll be off the list
indefinately.  Cya.



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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:21:48 -0400
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) The Crystal Method And Josh Wink

>I also must say one of the loudest shows I have been to.  I show I saw
>was very small, like a couple hundred people.  The only bad thing was
>that the A/C didnt work and it was about 105 degrees inside

hot.. hot is when you're at a rave with 2000 other people and it's like 4am
and you've been dancing non-stop since 11.. the air conditioning's on but
with all the people, it doesn't help at all.. you're covered in sweat..
everybody's collectively sweating so much that it's condensing on the
ceiling and dripping back down on people.. ewwwwwwww.. what's funny are the
people that have never had that happen before and they purposely stand under
the drips cuz they think it's water. gross. just be happy for nice people
that walk around with little fans or ice in their hats for you to take and
people selling freezies and even nicer people that give you freezies for
free :)
aimee



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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:17:50 -0500
From: STARpango <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital Article Ministry September 1998 Issue

i thought you peeps would like to read this one.....


Page 034


Orbital


    Paul and Phil Hartnoll's long awaited fifth album is "all but
finished" but the exact release date still remains a mystery. After
several shifting release dates, the album is now set for release around
November or January. The confusion is down to record company politics.
Polygram, who distribute Orbital's label London Records, have been
bought by Seagrams [the Canadian drinks and media multinational], so
Orbital's management are unsure who'll be working the record and are
keen to wait until the dust has settled. Boring, we know, but it's
stopping us all from getting out hands on the album.

    "Everything would have to be perfect if we bring out the album in
November," says Orbital's manager Rob Holden, "because it is the most
competitive time of the year".

    A new single may be out before Christmas, though, but London have yet
to select a track.  Aldo, in typical Orbital style, the album and
tracks have no names - the boys prefer to name them at the last minute.
 The overall feel of the album is said to be less introspective than
their last albume <italic>In Sides, </italic>and more intricate than
much of their previous work. "They're really exploring the technology
available to them this time," says Holden.  Earlier this year, the
album was shaping-up to be far more "in-your-face and
dancefloor-friendly" than <italic>In Sides</italic>, though there are
not as many 4/4 house beats as might be expected. Paul and Phil are
experimenting more with breakbeatsl.

    Despite the confusion of exactly what the album sounds like, Holden is
quietly confident.  "It's rather good," he says "Paul and Phil have
been slowly simmering away in the studio and nothing has gone
diastrously wrong because they've been left to their own devices."

    The album is relatively short [about ten tracks] and features live
instrumentation, live drums and trumpet melodies. One tracks is
rock-based while another is a downbeat affair featuring a
stylaphone[?!].  Orbital prefer to work on their own, although they
have employed the odd vocalist, like Alison Goldfrapp, who contributed
to <italic>In Sides</italic>. The vocals have been used as instruments,
cut-up and layered onto tracks.

    After two years' work in the studio, Orbital are looking forward to
touring again.  They originally had some dates scheduled for the end of
this year, but have cancelled because of the delay with the album. The
plan is to tour Britain and then the world, beginning in early spring
'99. They are busy debating how to improve on the well recieved shows
of their last tour.






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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:18:06 -0500
From: STARpango <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Fluid

hey does anyone know is this is available in the US yet?  here's what the
ad in Mixmag September 1998 said...

CREATED BY PROFESSIONALS, MIXED BY YOU

FLUID (with a picture of the cd jewel case)

national release: 28th August
THE WORLD'S MOST AFFORDABLE HOME STUDIO L29.99

"I'll get me coat..."  Paul Oakenfold




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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:13:02 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) The Crystal Method And Josh Wink

> >I also must say one of the loudest shows I have been to.  I show I saw
> >was very small, like a couple hundred people.  The only bad thing was
> >that the A/C didnt work and it was about 105 degrees inside
> hot.. hot is when you're at a rave with 2000 other people and it's like 4am
> and you've been dancing non-stop since 11.. the air conditioning's on but
> with all the people, it doesn't help at all.. you're covered in sweat..
> everybody's collectively sweating so much that it's condensing on the
> ceiling and dripping back down on people..

    I'll never forget seeing Mark Farina spinning in the room dubbed the
'mushroom jazz lounge' (beforehand). It was very much like you
describe, but all the lights were set up so that the room just had a
subdued greenish-yellow glow all over, and not much else.. It looked
like the music and the humid air were combining to sort of
spontaneously congeal fungus on the walls and ceiling. Weird, but
there's not really any other way to describe it. This was where I
went (downstairs) to take breaks from the aforementioned cirrus show.

- -Morey
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good people better rise up together
and join hands with one heart and one mind
good people better rise up soon





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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:13:02 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) The Crystal Method And Josh Wink

>  Also........has anyone seen Cirrus live?  Are they worth spending the
> money?  They are playing here (tulsa) tomorrow night and I am thinking
> of going.......

    I guess maybe it depends on how drunk they are. They sounded pretty
good when I saw them (about a year and a half ago, mind you), but I
heard a realaudio show of theirs that was horrible.. It's an
interesting combination of sequenced keyboards and live instruments,
to be sure, and they have a coupla songs that are pretty groovy. It
was kinda weird jumping back and forth from the hard trancey
breakbeat stuff to the really dazed trip hop stuff, but it may just
be that I'm not used to vibes jumping around like that in a club. My
experience was kinda jaded because I had just paid like $30 to see
dubtribe, and they cancelled because of their honeymoon and they got
cirrus as a last-minute replacement. It was even before their first
album came out, and nobody knew any of the songs or even really who
they were. And also, it was definitely weird watching them rock out
on the stage to 'break in' while the female vocal stuff is going on
(give us a break, etc) and thinking, so, like, uh, where's the
singer? In other words, it's a decent show, but not for $30...


- -Morey
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:18:30 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Daniel Hughes)
Subject: Re: (orbital) The Crystal Method And Josh Wink

> that's a very cool plus side.  also Wink is coming into town to host
> Clockwork on this coming sunday at RedZone (a phat dance club!!!) so can
> somebody fill me in on what his sets are usually like...particularly those
> of you who live in or near Philly... being his residency and everything.

I was talking to Josh last night in between sets that he was spinning at
Fluid here in Philly. We were at the bar and he recommended a nice
Hefeweitzen. I was a little inebrieated but I thought the stuff he was
spinning was pretty cool, not sure of the artists but it would appeal to
someoene who likes orbital I think. He wasnt playing anything that sounded
like his own stuff, I think he was trying to play some Ovum groups(that's
his own label). Anyway, he's a nice guy if you run into him. Good on the
decks, go see him if you get a chance.

Dan




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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 00:25:09 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael Mccomb)
Subject: (orbital) Radiccio

Hey all!

I'm normally a lurker, but I just had to write in and brag a bit, because I
actually found a sealed copy of the Radiccio CD here in Vancouver (HMV on
Robson for those who'd like to know)! Now that I've actually heard the gem, I'd
like to share a brief review:

Halcyon, the original version, is not very different from Halcyon+On+On, just
sort of rearranged a bit, so don't feel too bad that your life won't be
complete until you hear it...
However, the two B-sides, The Naked and the Dead, and Sunday, are WICKED! Well
worth the inflated price I paid to get that little 3-tracker.

End of review.

Rambling rant:
Finding this disc made me think of the recent discussion regarding the trading
of Orbital songs over the internet and how some people don't agree with this
practice because it deprives the band/label of royalties. Someone brought up
the idea of how royalties are not paid on used CD's (although failed to mention
that a royalty has already been paid on each disc). All this got me to
thinking: yes Orbital are gods, and they deserve our utmost respect, and we
shouldn't rip them off. However, if Orbital were truly concerned with earning
royalties, wouldn't they realize that they have a huge fan base and could earn
a lot of royalties simply by reissuing all their deleted singles? How many fans
on this list actually own a copy of Omen or Mutations? Small number, I'm
afraid. How many would buy them instantly if they were reissued? Virtually all
of them. Want to double your royalties? Reissue the old singles in double-pack
format, thereby forcing your fans to buy both halves in order to obtain all the
mixes and b-sides. If Mutuations were reissued on two CDs (mirroring the
original 12"ers) instead of the original one, I'd certainly buy both (although
it wouldn't be my preference, a precedent has certainly been set by the
triple-pack Satan Live).

Oh yeah, one other thing: if anyone out there has any extra copies of Chime,
Omen, Mutations, Radiccio 2, etc., you now have my address. I'm waiting for
your letters... hee hee hee!

Thanks for reading,
Michael McComb



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