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orbital-digest        Sunday, February 8 1998        Volume 02 : Number 040




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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 13:55:45 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Live Experience

> >-Morey
> Well, I have both versions of In-Sides (with the Times Fly/Box bonus
> disc and the other one with Satan, Saint, Sinner, Halycon and Satan
> (live)).  So  I guess my only question is, is there another?
> Thanks.
> MP

    There are other versions of Halcyon out in general release, but the
only one with the funky samples in the one on In Sides. The video
itself is pretty hard to come by, but it's the full song, not the
mtv-butchered version.

- -Morey





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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 14:50:38 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Saturnzreturn

    Well, I broke down and bought it yesterday, too, without listening
to it at all. There were definitely a few surprises..

> Disc 1 ("Mother")
> 1) Mother  2) Truth

    I listened to disc 1 on repeat all night last night (once before bed
and then softer while I slept). I like Mother quite a bit. About 45
minutes of it is quite ambient, interspersed with some good mellow
(if a bit dark) jungle. To be honest, I couldn't really tell where
Mother ended and Truth began, except for the vocals on Truth. They
seemed to flow together pretty well..

> Disc 2 ("Saturn")
> 1) Temper Temper  2) Digital  3)  I'll Be There for You  4) Believe
> 5) Dragonfly  6) Chico--Death of a Rock Star  7) Letter of Fate
> 8) Fury--The Origin  9) Crystal Clear  10) Demonz

    Hmm.. I didn't particularly care for Temper Temper all that much.
Digital is good in parts, but there are a few places where KRS-One's
part sounds extremely forced. Dragonfly and Chico were both quite
good. I think Dragonfly is probably the best song on there (At least
from the limited listening I've done.) Letter of Fate was a definite
shocker. I'm not sure what to say about it, but it definitely ain't
jungle. There are a couple of tracks similar to 'State of Mind' on
Timeless, but not as good, imho.

> Put simply, Saturnzreturn provides an enjoyable and unique sonic
> experience.  I definately recommend it; however, don't listen to it
> expecting it to be a jungle CD.

    I'm defintely enjoying it so far.. I still like New Forms better,
though.

- -Morey





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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:43:45 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) alsjfhg

allright,
  I was rather bored one day, so I downloaded a wav, of halcyon+on, I was
fooling around with it and started playing it backwords, after a little
tinkering I figured that the singing is played backwords on the original song,
(not the backwords one I fooled with)

well if you are confused, good bye.

sam.


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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 16:44:37 -0500
From: "Shannon @ The Image Processing Lab" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) your favourite organ?

>Daniel Kasaj wrote:<
>so, we have the heart on green,
>the kidneys on brown, and
>well, insides on in sides :)
>what's next ? :)

>Filthy Mick<
>Hey everyone, what's your favourite internal organ?

I like the Hammond ZX-99!!!

oh, 'internal' !

for me, the obvious:

    T H E (@) B R A I N

Shannon >aka cellpsychique'<
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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 21:01:18 PST
From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Content-Type: text/plain

Hi:
I am sorry to junk everyone's mailbox, but I need Brent Jones to reply
back to this message.
I lost your e-mail address.
Sorry everyone.
MP

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:40:25 -0000
From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Bloody Live Experience

>> Hi all:
>> I guess you all already had this conversation before, but where can one
>> find 'Live Experience' at anyway?

>    Are you referring to the video or the song? The video is only
>available as a very limited edition promo, and there is another live
>version of the same song on the bonus disc of the US version of
>In Sides.

This is ALL MTV fault. Just to clear things up....there is no track
called Live Experience...its actually called just "Halcyon(live)". Its
available on one of the reissues of In Sides (US) - Check
Http://wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa/discog.html
The info u need is there.

As for the video...again its just Halcyon live and it does appear on the
limited TRUPAK which was given away in the LOOPZ remix compo.

Steve LOOPZ Price
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:15:08 +0100
From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) strictly off topic

I need to talk to someone from the State of Georgia,
nothing serious - I am just doing something out of sheer
fun and I need some help..anybody from Georgia will do...

Thanks,

Daniel, who finally woke up knowing why Wham! split up.
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 05:26:25 PST
From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Event Horizon

Hey guys-
Wow.. I just watched Event Horizon last night.  As far as I remember,
when it first came out, the general reaction of people on the list was a
negative one.  I couldn't see it back then 'cuz it got rated R, and I'm
not exactly 17 or whatever it is.  I went with friends, and we tried to
get in, but they stopped us.  Anyway, I've seen it now, and all I can
say is wow.  There were a few technical things that pissed me off, like
somehow being able to hear a scream through a vacuum, but overall, I
tink it's an AMAZING movie.  And now I'm really regretting not getting
the soundtrack when I was in Michigan.. stupid stupid me.  Anyway, does
anybody if the score for the symphonic-y parts is available?  I just
kept thinking that it was something I'd like to play in concert band
here at school....

Aimee

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:25:12 -0500
From: "Hans Lo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Event Horizon

>Anyway, does
>anybody if the score for the symphonic-y parts is available?  I just
>kept thinking that it was something I'd like to play in concert band
>here at school....

    You liked the soundtrack for Event Horizon? I bought the import here in
Ottawa (a friggin arm and a leg) and I was quite disappointed. I knew that
the brothers didn't have total control over the music, but the composer
Michael Kamen really is not a good one. There are far better compsers out
there, and it was a shame Orbital had to work with this fool. I'm far
happier with Goldie's Saturz Return which cost about the same as the Even
Horizon soundtrack.

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 9:32:00 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) strictly off topic

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>Daniel, who finally woke up knowing why Wham! split up.


     wait, is it for the reason i think it is? the reason culture club
     broke up?

     and now for a quick opinion poll. if you own a copy of one of "the
     freestyle files" compilations, and you happened to have heard the
     england vs. germany discs, which disc did you like better. honestly, i
     thought germany definitely did it in for me. hope i don't anger any
     nice people out there...

     big kisses to all the girls and boys-
     *dose*


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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 06:38:20 PST
From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Event Horizon

Hey-

**
You liked the soundtrack for Event Horizon?
**

Yeah.. not only do I like it, but I want to play it!  God... I'll have
to go find the music teacher now and get her to go see if she can track
it down.  I would DIE to play that in concert band.  And since I'm a
section leader, I get input on what we play.  MUHAHAHA!  Hehe..
seriously though, I want to play it.  I think (from what I heard) it
would work well with the group we have out for band this year and
besides, I just think it kicks ass.  Especially that part when (in the
movie) they're approaching the Event Horizon for the first time.

Aimee

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:44:10 +0100
From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Event Horizon

Aimee +ACI-The Terrorist+ACI- Couture wrote:
+AD4-I would DIE to play that in concert band.  And since I'm a
+AD4-section leader, I get input on what we play.  MUHAHAHA+ACE-  Hehe..

Play as in +ACI-spin them CDs+ACI- or as in +ACI-raping the instruments+ACI- ? From
what I picked up, you guys actually play the tunes on your own
instruments...that can't be.....aahhh..so glad I live far away :)

Daniel, betting she's gonna take this personal.
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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:43:00 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) more ridiculous observations


     how' about...

     a remix of "karma chameleon" by the boys? or a remix of "wake me up
     before you go go"?


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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 13:16:08 PST
From: "Aimee Couture" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Event Horizon

**
Aimee The Terrorist Couture wrote:
**

Terrorist?? Hmm.... wonder where that came from.

**
Play as in spin them CDs or as in raping the instruments ? From what I
picked up, you guys actually play the tunes on your own
instruments...that can't be.....aahhh..so glad I live far away :)
**

Haha.. the grade nines in band suck..  The people around my age don't.
We play our instruments, and we sound okay.  Soon, we may have realaudio
files of us playing up on the school's web site.  BTW, beware.. not only
do I play an instrument, but I sing as well.  MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Evil Aimee

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:16:00 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) by far non-orbital related but interesting


     hello, all,

     if you're 21 and over and would like to hear something interesting,
     write me. i've got something to share! and no, this has nothing to do
     with pornography!


     *dose*


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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:21:00 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) ok, i take it back


     all right, forget my previous posting regarding 21 and overs! i've
     momentarily gotten the wrong info. sorry for driving everybody crazy
     with this. truly!

     *dose, yet again*


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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:48:33 -0700 (MST)
From: Matthew J Abate <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Event Horizon

> Play as in spin them CDs or as in raping the instruments ?

Ouch! Man that would cause a HUGE rash.

aphasia.................................................?



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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:03:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Greg Palmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Saturnzreturn

> Letter of Fate was a definite shocker. I'm not sure what to say about
> it, but it definitely ain't jungle. There are a couple of tracks similar
> to 'State of Mind' on Timeless, but not as good, imho.

Yeah, Letter of Fate did come out of nowhere.  It would be better placed
at the end of the disc.

> I'm definitely enjoying it so far.. I still like New Forms better,
> though.

New Forms definitely maintains a better continuity than the Goldie.
However, I'm not sure if it is the comparison for Saturnzreturn.  (And,
I'm not sure what the comparison should be.)  There is a large amount of
jungle in Saturnzreturn, but there is also a lot of time devoted to other
styles of music.  For example, only approximately 20 minutes (middle
section of 'Mother') of the 75-minute first disc is jungle.  But, of
course, since Goldie is viewed as the father of jungle, we naturally look
to that branch of electronica for a measure of comparison.

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 21:10:58 PST
From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Mail??

Hey everyone:
Has anyone ever mailed out that fill in-response thing that you get in
Orbital cd's?  Or have you sent a SAE to the Orbital address for
merchandise info.?
Do you get anything?  One of my friends did it and he got nothing at
all.  Of course, he did the e-mail thing.
Mehul

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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 23:18:41 -0800
From: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Mail??

I have mailed out before, and have gotten nothing back either.  Pretty
pissed too.

.Matthew.

Mehul Parekh wrote:
>
> Hey everyone:
> Has anyone ever mailed out that fill in-response thing that you get in
> Orbital cd's?  Or have you sent a SAE to the Orbital address for
> merchandise info.?
> Do you get anything?  One of my friends did it and he got nothing at
> all.  Of course, he did the e-mail thing.
> Mehul
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 08:24:00 +0100
From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Saturnzreturn

Morey Gamble wrote:
>Hmm.. I didn't particularly care for Temper Temper all that much.

Apparently, the Grooverider remix of Temper^2 is "far out" and
I've seen it on a couple of charts already.

Daniel
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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 10:44:44 -0500
From: "Shannon @ The Image Processing Lab" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital Sciences Corp.!

SNOE LAUNCH FROM VANDENBERG AFB, CA., POSTPONED 24-HOURS

        Launch of the Student Nitric Oxide Explorer (SNOE) from
Vandenberg Air Force Base (VAFB), CA, earlier set for late tonight, has
been delayed at least 24-hours. Due to recent weather conditions in
California, the required range support and personnel necessary to
conduct a launch attempt from VAFB are not available tonight.

        SNOE will be launched into orbit by a Pegasus XL rocket built by
Orbital Sciences Corp., Dulles, VA. A Lockheed L-1011 aircraft will
carry the Pegasus to an altitude of 39,000 feet over the Pacific Ocean
prior to its release.

        Payload test team managers earlier today reported that the
Pegasus fairing, despite the severe weather, sustained no moisture
intrusion and the SNOE payload was in good health.
- --

MAN! Orbital is everywhere and does a little of everything!

Hey Phil. Hey Paul. When did you guys start maing rockets? Will we see
any in the upcoming tour? Watch out for that rocket fuel; it can be
quite precarious!

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:27:47 +0000
From: "Morey Gamble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Saturnzreturn

> New Forms definitely maintains a better continuity than the Goldie.
> However, I'm not sure if it is the comparison for Saturnzreturn.  (And,
> I'm not sure what the comparison should be.)  There is a large amount of
> jungle in Saturnzreturn, but there is also a lot of time devoted to other
> styles of music.  For example, only approximately 20 minutes (middle
> section of 'Mother') of the 75-minute first disc is jungle.  But, of
> course, since Goldie is viewed as the father of jungle, we naturally look
> to that branch of electronica for a measure of comparison.

    That's true.. I'm not sure New Forms is comparable to Saturnzreturn.
Okay, then.. The only logical comparison that can really be made is
with Timeless, I guess.. In that case, I would say that Timeless has
some songs that are better than just about anything on Saturn
(timeless, sea of tears, angel, and maybe a sense of rage), the album
as a whole is a step up from Timeless as far as maturity, and
diversity. It does seem to lack some of the intensity that timeless
has, though. Timeless feels like it's wound up so tight that it could
just explode at any time (and does a few times), while Saturnzreturn
almost seems to be a conscious step back from that, almost a "Look, I
can write other kinds of music, too" sort of thing. If it wasn't for
Temper Temper and Digital, I'd almost say that he's trying to
distance himself from that Goldie.

- -Morey





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Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 15:00:57 -0500
From: KELL SIMON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) looking for good electronic etc (e)mail order cd catalog

if anyone on the list knows of any good on line catalogs (especially ones
that i can request, since i only have email and not web access) for
ambient/dnb/etc cd catalogs or mail order services, please let me know.
thanks
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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 17:45:18 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) Saturnzreturn

>New Forms definitely maintains a better continuity than the Goldie.
>However, I'm not sure if it is the comparison for Saturnzreturn.  (And,
>I'm not sure what the comparison should be.)  There is a large amount of
>jungle in Saturnzreturn, but there is also a lot of time devoted to other
>styles of music.  For example, only approximately 20 minutes (middle
>section of 'Mother') of the 75-minute first disc is jungle.  But, of
>course, since Goldie is viewed as the father of jungle, we naturally look
>to that branch of electronica for a measure of comparison.
>
>Greg
>


Calling Goldie the father of jungle is rather obsurd, the guy doesn't even
write his own tracks.

I'm listening to Saturnzreturn right now .....I've don't have an opinion yet



ROB

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 22:29:27 -0800
From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Event Horizons

Hey

I just finished watching Event Horizons and I've got to say that it was a
brilliant horror movie.  As for the music, the orbital parts were poorly
mixed and sounded choppy and pieced together.  What I've heard from the
soundtrack seemed way better.  I also think that orbital should be
recognized in the opening credits along with Michael Kamen.  I thought it
was quite a joke that the beginning reads "Music written by Michael Kamen"
and completely leaves out orbital who co-wrote the songs.  At the end of the
final credits, it says additional music by Orbital.  Prodigy's "Funky Shit"
was used better then Orbital's works.  I think that the director ripped them
off.  Everyone so far that I've talked to about the movie had no idea that
Orbital took part in writing the music score.  I wonder why?  but besides
this, the movie rocked and kept me riding.  So much that I enfringed (sp?)
the copyright and taped it.  but who gives a shit.

tell me your thoughts.
cya
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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 12:56:32 +0200
From: shachar pladot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) none orbital(the original art form)

hi
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Doe's any body heard about this disk or heard it by itself


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Date: Sun, 08 Feb 98 11:20:40 GMT
From: Reece KH <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Saturnzreturn

>
> Morey Gamble wrote:
> >Hmm.. I didn't particularly care for Temper Temper all that much.
>
> Apparently, the Grooverider remix of Temper^2 is "far out" and
> I've seen it on a couple of charts already.

yeah, it is pretty damn good, and if anyone sees the yellow copy of temper temper,
they should get that one over the other version, cos it's got a .mov file of the video
on the cd, and quicktime to run it in for pcs and macs, which was nice :)

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