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From: nat_king_cat <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Song Title Meanings
Date: 01 Oct 1996 18:57:04 +1000 (EST)



On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, michael george wrote:

> >... why would you buy the wipeout cd (game) instead of the
> >music cd if you just wanted the music???
>
> the wipeout music game music is far superior and totaly different to the
> wipeout music cd (other than P.E.T.R.O.L.) so you have to buy both if
> you want both if you know what i mean.

right.  thanx.  would one be considered odd to expect a cd containing
(supposedly) music from the game wipeout to have on it the same tracks as
those in the game??? something weird here! :)

nathaN.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Song Title Meanings
Date: 01 Oct 1996 11:59:59 BST

Sent this privatly - just in case we piss anyone off with non - Orbital
stuff. Got to be fair havent i?

>> Oh i see....confused you will be....where abouts are u in the uk ?

>Preston.

Do you follow North End ?
Or do you like football ;)

> >> Its very similar to Firestarter if i remember right.
>I bought it today (sugar is sweeter) and after listening to it properly
>it sounds nothing like firestarter IMO.

I think the chorus does...

>> The whole chorus has the same melody...different vocals (heard it this
>> morning). Its ok though.

>I love it, sounds nothing like CJs ever done before which is not really a
>suprise!! but vocals on a CJ tune is really weird.

Its very different....nice to see artists branching out instead of just
doing their usual stuff (that everyone is used to). thats why i like
Orbital.

> And whats this got to do with Orbital...well, Cj Bollands new single
>sound like firestarter which the vocals were done in the
>Strongroom...which as we all know is P&Ps little studio.

>really?

Tis true!
Its states it on the inlay of Firestarter and ive been to the Strongroom.
Sat on that squeaky chair!

>well, CJs on Internal now anyway, so that's got something to do
>with it no doubt...

Dont know...the Strongroom is an independent studio(s). M-People and
Jamariqui (sp?) were there when i was down there.

>so has CJ moved back to England or does he still live
>in Belgium?

Pass...is he still VERY brown!

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Orbital Zine.
http://www.cybercity.hko.net/birmingham/loopz (Last Update 23/09/96)
On IRC at Dismayl.Demon.CO.Uk - known as LOOPZ (and a few others)
  and Uk.Undernet.Org


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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 05:55:49 -0500

At 10:17 PM 9/30/96 -0500, you wrote:
>> > I think Lush is a bore.  The first minute is great but after that it's just
>> > an hour of junk before Impact starts up.  Of course, just my humble
opinion.
>
>
>youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural
>demigod of all songs created.
>
>jonathan
>
>united states orbital obsessor.
>
Personally I like the DIVERSIONS versions of lush!
(in my opinion)
But I do like ORBITAL2 !!!  I like planet of the shapes!
(any way)

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Duck Feet
Date: 01 Oct 1996 05:58:39 -0500

At 09:01 PM 9/30/96 -0800, you wrote:
I like what you said!
It did kind of have the same meaning to me when i listened to it!

Digger

>Steve.Price replied to this inquiry:
>>>It seems like some of their songs are water-related.  Like 'I Wish I Had
>>>Duck Feet' for instance?  How about 'Lush'--an ode to drunkeness perhaps?
>>
>>Duck Feet....the whole track is about a phreak show and how everyone is
>>looking at the weird subjects. I wish i had Duck Feet.
>
>Steve, Steve, Steve!  Disappointed!  The Duck Feet song is far deeper in
>meaning than just being about a phreak (freak in the US) show.  Did you
>miss the part about plastic surgery?  Do you notice how the two voices are
>blended with and contrasted against each other?  Hang with me here for a
>moment...Ok, check this out:  The announcer for the show starts off with a
>free show (which ultimately ends up costing what price?) where the viewer
>can view the phreaks/freaks.  Then there's the woman seducing us, telling
>us phreaks/freaks that we can look better or more beautiful by having
>surgery (butchery???) performed upon us.  Simply stated, we view
>phreaks/freaks and are viewed as phreaks/freaks.
>
>Hmmm, maybe you don't have quite the same background as a reference here.
>Try this:  Say you're dating a girl and you'd practically marry this woman
>if it just weren't for her [fill in offending feature here].  Now then,
>imagine you're that girl and how you would feel if someone told you that
>they'd like you if it just weren't for that one feature.  What does that
>make the girl?  For sake of argument, she's a phreak/freak in the eyes of
>said boyfriend.
>
>Steve, the song is brilliant and carries a deeper meaning than just being
>about a phreak show.  Give it another listen and think of all the
>insecurities that you may have.  Tell me it doesn't speak to you on a
>deeper level.
>
>BTW, pix are in the mail tomorrow.  I didn't have enough overseas postage
>here at the homestead.  Hope you'll like them.
>
>Love,
>
>--Anne
>
>_________________________________________________________
>SAVE TIBET
>
>
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Duck Feet
Date: 01 Oct 1996 12:20:47 BST


>>Duck Feet....the whole track is about a phreak show and how everyone is
>>looking at the weird subjects. I wish i had Duck Feet.

>Steve, Steve, Steve!  Disappointed!

Oops!

> The Duck Feet song is far deeper in
>meaning than just being about a phreak (freak in the US) show.  Did you
>miss the part about plastic surgery?  Do you notice how the two voices
>are blended with and contrasted against each other?  Hang with me here
>for a moment...Ok, check this out

You look into these tracks deeply....i respect you for that (im a good
creep too!) Would you class this as Zoneable ?



>Steve, the song is brilliant and carries a deeper meaning than just being
>about a phreak show.  Give it another listen and think of all the
>insecurities that you may have.  Tell me it doesn't speak to you on a
>deeper level.

Mmmmm....im scared to put it on now! ;)
Does that make me a freak ? What does it tell you R....erm...Anne ?

>BTW, pix are in the mail tomorrow.  I didn't have enough overseas postage
>here at the homestead.  Hope you'll like them.

Many thanx.
Shall return the favour....i know someone who can convert NTSC to PAL so
he should be able to reverse the procedure....if he can....VIDEOS!

See you Saturday most likely....you do have my mail address dont you
(email and snail) ?

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Orbital Zine.
http://www.cybercity.hko.net/birmingham/loopz (Last Update 23/09/96)
On IRC at Dismayl.Demon.CO.Uk - known as LOOPZ (and a few others)
  and Uk.Undernet.Org

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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Song Title Meanings
Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:05:35 +0100

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Sent this privatly - just in case we piss anyone off with non - Orbital
> stuff. Got to be fair havent i?
>

<polite cough> Er, Steve, I think you've blown it, me old son....

> > >> Its very similar to Firestarter if i remember right.
> >I bought it today (sugar is sweeter) and after listening to it properly
> >it sounds nothing like firestarter IMO.
>
> I think the chorus does...
>
> >> The whole chorus has the same melody...different vocals (heard it this
> >> morning). Its ok though.
>

Sugar is Sweeter sounds a lot like Poison. The chorus has the same
cadence,
but different words (obviously):

Sugar daddy
Come on and sugar me
I want your lovin', so come on and give it me

I got the poison
I got the remedy
I got the pulsating, rhythmical remedy

You can sing either set of words to either song...

When asked about this stunning similarity, CJ allegedly said that he
hadn't
heard the Prodigy track...yeah, right. Good track though, and good to
see him
getting a bit more recognition. I just loved his first album.

Fraser

(Yep, it's not Orbital, but give us a break....Orbital message coming
up)

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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital evolution
Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:15:02 +0100

OK, everyone seems to be getting deeep into the music, so it's my
turn...

I was listening to the green album the other day, and something
struck me. The older stuff uses alot more identifiable instruments
than the newer stuff. For example, you can easily pick out the 909 drum
machine and the good old TB303 in stuff off the green album.
But on in Sides I think anyone would be hard pushed to tell what
instruments were used. So not only are the tracks themselves becoming
more complex, P&P seem to be putting more programming into the
instrumentation itself.

Maybe this is them naturally becoming more experienced with their kit,
but In Sides in one of the few albums (in any genre) where the
sounds are practically unique.

Fraser

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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital evolution
Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:15:02 +0100

OK, everyone seems to be getting deeep into the music, so it's my
turn...

I was listening to the green album the other day, and something
struck me. The older stuff uses alot more identifiable instruments
than the newer stuff. For example, you can easily pick out the 909 drum
machine and the good old TB303 in stuff off the green album.
But on in Sides I think anyone would be hard pushed to tell what
instruments were used. So not only are the tracks themselves becoming
more complex, P&P seem to be putting more programming into the
instrumentation itself.

Maybe this is them naturally becoming more experienced with their kit,
but In Sides in one of the few albums (in any genre) where the
sounds are practically unique.

Fraser

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Song Title Meanings
Date: 01 Oct 1996 14:34:28 BST


>> Sent this privatly - just in case we piss anyone off with non - Orbital
>> stuff. Got to be fair havent i?
><polite cough> Er, Steve, I think you've blown it, me old son....

Doh!


>Sugar is Sweeter sounds a lot like Poison. The chorus has the same
>cadence, but different words (obviously):

Sugar!
I meant Poison.....not Firestarter. I thought i was going mad when
everyone was saying it aint like it. Thanks for pointing it out.

>When asked about this stunning similarity, CJ allegedly said that he
>hadn't heard the Prodigy track...yeah, right. Good track though, and good
>to see him getting a bit more recognition. I just loved his first album.

:)
Did he say WHO when asked about the Prodigy? ;)
Ive listened to a few tracks by CJB by not much. Ill make an effort to
grab his album of someone to give it a few listens.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Orbital Zine.
http://www.cybercity.hko.net/birmingham/loopz (Last Update 23/09/96)
On IRC at Dismayl.Demon.CO.Uk - known as LOOPZ (and a few others)
  and Uk.Undernet.Org

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From: michael george <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Song Title Meanings
Date: 01 Oct 1996 09:32:49 -0700


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> the wipeout music game music is far superior and totaly different to =
the
> wipeout music cd (other than P.E.T.R.O.L.) so you have to buy both if
> you want both if you know what i mean.

>right.  thanx.  would one be considered odd to expect a cd containing
>(supposedly) music from the game wipeout to have on it the same tracks =
>as
>those in the game??? something weird here! :)

>nathaN.

i think the music cd for wipeout should have been "music inspired by..." =
or something along those lines as i to originally thought the game music =
and the music cd to be one and the same.rather confusing.

mick george



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From: "Toddy." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Song Title Meanings
Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:34:40 -0700

> Do you follow North End ?
> Or do you like football ;)

I don't follow football really.

> Its very different....nice to see artists branching out instead of just
> doing their usual stuff (that everyone is used to). thats why i like
> Orbital.

CJ always "branches out" you never know what he's going to do next...a
trip into slower stuff maybe? and hopefully a new album very soon, his
last release was "The Starship Universe EP" over a year ago.

Toddy.



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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Duck Feet
Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:06:41 -0500

The announcer for the show starts off with a
>free show (which ultimately ends up costing what price?) where the viewer
>can view the phreaks/freaks.  Then there's the woman seducing us, telling
>us phreaks/freaks that we can look better or more beautiful by having
>surgery (butchery???) performed upon us.  Simply stated, we view
>phreaks/freaks and are viewed as phreaks/freaks.

I've listened to this song god-knows-how-many times and I don't remember
any woman saying any such things.  I guess I'm just too preoccupied
listening to that noise that accompanies the words...you know, we call it
the music?


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:09:49 -0500

>youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural
>demigod of all songs created.
>
>jonathan
>
>united states orbital obsessor.

You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to
Orbital 2.  I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is
Orbital's worst work.  It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim
and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides.  Orbital 2 is also
home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon.

Satan Forever baby.....


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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Duck Feet
Date: 01 Oct 1996 15:47:57 -0500

Anthony Agee wrote:
>
> I've listened to this song god-knows-how-many times and I don't remember
> any woman saying any such things.  I guess I'm just too preoccupied
> listening to that noise that accompanies the words...you know, we call it
> the music?

if you just listen to the "noise" you can miss out on a lot of what P&P
Hartnoll are trying to say with their music.  if there are that many
words in an orbital song, they are not there just for the hell of it..
the brothers put them there for a reason..

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 17:00:58 -0400

At 03:09 PM 10/1/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural
>>demigod of all songs created.
>>
>>jonathan
>>
>>united states orbital obsessor.
>
>You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to
>Orbital 2.  I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is
>Orbital's worst work.  It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim
>and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides.  Orbital 2 is also
>home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon.
>
>Satan Forever baby.....
>
>
        hear....hear.........right on


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 23:33:44 -0700

Anthony Agee wrote:
>
> >youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural
> >demigod of all songs created.
> >
> >jonathan
> >
> >united states orbital obsessor.
>
> You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to
> Orbital 2.  I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is
> Orbital's worst work.  It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim

It's more dancefloor orientated.

Toddy.



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From: Jeff Horton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 16:32:01 -0700

I love all of orbitals work.  Can we put this petty dispute to rest.

Through our actions grow the fruits of our life.

Jeff

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From: Throat Dibbler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 19:44:31 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Jonathan Wayne wrote:

> > I think Lush is a bore.  The first minute is great but after that it's just
> > an hour of junk before Impact starts up.  Of course, just my humble opinion.
>
>
> youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural
> demigod of all songs created.
>
> jonathan
>
> united states orbital obsessor.

I'm afraid I must concur wholeheartedly. I'm not sure if overall the brown
is better than In Sides, but it's gotta be close, and It doesn't get any
better than Lush. (Other than Halcyon + On + On, which is, of course,
*the* best out of the lot)

This is my .sig


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From: Throat Dibbler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 19:52:45 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote:

> You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to
> Orbital 2.  I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is
> Orbital's worst work.  It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim
> and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides.  Orbital 2 is also
> home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon.


You know, if I wasn't such a nice guy, I'd flame the hell out of you for
this blasphemy.. :) Actually, I agree that a lot of Orbital 2 is fairly
repetetive, but I still love it. Don't get me wrong, the first album is
awesome, along with Sniv. and In Sides, but something about it just grabs
ahold of me and won't let go. I have to listen to it all at once, I can't
just listen to one track.

> Satan Forever baby..... >

Well, yeah. The live version, especially. I think my fave off that album
is still Choice, tho. It's just so damn cool. I can't think of the words..


This is my .sig


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 20:52:33 -0400

At 04:32 PM 10/1/96 -0700, you wrote:
>I love all of orbitals work.  Can we put this petty dispute to rest.
>
>Through our actions grow the fruits of our life.
>
>Jeff
>
 Well I put my know it all opinion in to this on going thing and
.....well.....reading this I can say....yeah you know he's right......this
is pointless to say whats what.  Lets just get on with what we love to do
best and put this energy into a Better channel.

        Thanks for the subtle kick in the head Jeff.

                                                Oshine


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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 21:52:45 -0500

> You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to
> Orbital 2.  I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is
> Orbital's worst work.  It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim
> and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides.  Orbital 2 is also
> home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon.
>
> Satan Forever baby.....
>

ok, i agree that orbital2 is repetitve but the reason why i only liked a
couple songs from snivalisation is that its more experiemental and more
silly in a way such as the orbs pomme fritz. i hated pomme fritz and i
only listened to it once through and i should of sold it back.
orbital will never  leave my collection even though i think (in my
opinion) experimental stuff like sniv. is out. diversions is not
experimental but remixed and there is a difference. orbital2 is
repetitve and thus more addicting as well. i think the more popular the
music, the more enjoyable it may be. as far as the overatted works like
lush and halcyon, they are unbiased works of techno that should stand as
a platform for all "popular" techno music.

orbital 2 is the mainstream.


jonathan

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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 22:06:49 -0500

> It's more dancefloor orientated.
>
> Toddy.

sir, these words are so inferior i must reside to say that lush and the
songs on orbital2 are works of musical art! sure it could be found at
some raves and clubs but in general it is not solely dancefloor
oriented. i would call it as a 2 1/2 year or so project that was taken
seriously by the hartnoll brothers and was accomplished presumably
succesful in orbital culture. lush is also listenable, get that!
and you dont have to dance to the music either you could just drum youre
fingers or wobble youre head. bodily movement is for dance music NOT
TECHNO MUSIC. lets put this struggle to rest and reside to peaceful
euphoric techno! no headbanging for orbital! :>

jonathan

usa orbitaler orbiting usa

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 21:49:31 -0500

At 08:52 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote:
I agree Lets Stop This Dispute!  Orbital Kicks A**!  We Can Leave It At That!
(May Be Some ONe Needs To Kick Harder!) LOL :)
DIGGER

>At 04:32 PM 10/1/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>I love all of orbitals work.  Can we put this petty dispute to rest.
>>
>>Through our actions grow the fruits of our life.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
> Well I put my know it all opinion in to this on going thing and
>.....well.....reading this I can say....yeah you know he's right......this
>is pointless to say whats what.  Lets just get on with what we love to do
>best and put this energy into a Better channel.
>
>        Thanks for the subtle kick in the head Jeff.
>
>                                                Oshine
>
>
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 01 Oct 1996 22:24:40 -0500

At 04:32 PM 10/1/96 -0700, you wrote:
>I love all of orbitals work.  Can we put this petty dispute to rest.
>
>Through our actions grow the fruits of our life.
>

Petty dispute? Isn't discussing Orbital what this whole mailing list is
about? I'm not here to get people angry : )  I'm just talking about music.
As much as you all think I hate the Brown album you'd be suprised how much
i actually adore it.


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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:13:10 -0500

> Petty dispute? Isn't discussing Orbital what this whole mailing list is
> about? I'm not here to get people angry : )  I'm just talking about music.
> As much as you all think I hate the Brown album you'd be suprised how much
> i actually adore it.


i actually find this also productive as well talking and disputing with
the orbital2 album. if anyone sides with me and loves that album then
that person trully loves every piece of techno work they have done.
orbital is rare. orbital is not orb. orb is silly. orbital made the
melody and perfected the purpose. i want to discuss the pleasentness of
what orbital is all about. if anyone out there says that lush rules then
that person rules as well. if anyone says that lush sucks then that
person rules as well.if i go saying this to every orbital fan then that
person will say that you are wrong that lush doesnt rule. so what i do
is say that everything orbital made is not only visionary but awesome in
terms of their sound field.

jonathan

usa orbitaler orbiting usa

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From: Throat Dibbler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:18:56 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote:

> At 04:32 PM 10/1/96 -0700, you wrote:
> >I love all of orbitals work.  Can we put this petty dispute to rest.
> >
> >Through our actions grow the fruits of our life.
> >
>
> Petty dispute? Isn't discussing Orbital what this whole mailing list is
> about? I'm not here to get people angry : )  I'm just talking about music.
> As much as you all think I hate the Brown album you'd be suprised how much
> i actually adore it.

    That's why my flame comment was in jest. We wouldn't be here if we
didn't like orbital. Just gotta remember that 'not as good as In Sides' is
not a slight. It's kinda self-evident. <grin>


This is my .sig


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From: michael george <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:22:38 -0700


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> Petty dispute? Isn't discussing Orbital what this whole mailing list is
> about? I'm not here to get people angry : )  I'm just talking about music.
> As much as you all think I hate the Brown album you'd be suprised how much
> i actually adore it..

>is say that everything orbital made is not only visionary but awesome in
>terms of their sound field.

>jonathan

>usa orbitaler orbiting usa

there's nothing wrong with healthy opinions/discussions to get ya' juices flowing....
theres only two types of music and there both orbital :)
mick

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: For all you Canadians...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:33:37 -0400

If you don't know already, the New Music this week has a feature on Orbital.
It includes a rather funny interview, clips from The Box and Halcyon, and a
clip of them performing Forever live at the Opera House. (There's also a cool
bit on DJ Food for all of you guys open to non-Orbital music). I've taped my
copy.. will you tape yours?

P.S. To the guy that asked about where they got the "Are We Here" sample, I
was actually watching a show on Discovery sometime ago, when they showed this
old prof reciting those very lines! You can imagine my shock. It's from a PBS
style documentary on outer space.

David

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From: Throat Dibbler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 00:45:01 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Jonathan Wayne wrote:

> i actually find this also productive as well talking and disputing with
> the orbital2 album. if anyone sides with me and loves that album then
> that person trully loves every piece of techno work they have done.
> orbital is rare. orbital is not orb. orb is silly. orbital made the
> melody and perfected the purpose. i want to discuss the pleasentness of
> what orbital is all about. if anyone out there says that lush rules then
> that person rules as well. if anyone says that lush sucks then that
> person rules as well.if i go saying this to every orbital fan then that
> person will say that you are wrong that lush doesnt rule. so what i do
> is say that everything orbital made is not only visionary but awesome in
> terms of their sound field.

    All I have to say about that is, right on. Right. On.



halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail] (John Shore - Student - SunSoft)
Subject: Re: Duck Feet
Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:49:17 +0100

I don't think you are listening to the music. The words are a very important part of the music. If you haven't heard "any woman saying any such things" then maybe a change of stereo is in order.

Orbitals recordings are always of the highest quality and good stereo brings so much more out of there music.


J.
{}  From [e-mail] Tue Oct  1 21:34 BST 1996
{}  X-Sender: [e-mail]
{}  Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:06:41 -0500
{}  To: [e-mail]
{}  From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
{}  Subject: Re: Duck Feet
{}  Mime-Version: 1.0
{}
{}  The announcer for the show starts off with a
{}  >free show (which ultimately ends up costing what price?) where the viewer
{}  >can view the phreaks/freaks.  Then there's the woman seducing us, telling
{}  >us phreaks/freaks that we can look better or more beautiful by having
{}  >surgery (butchery???) performed upon us.  Simply stated, we view
{}  >phreaks/freaks and are viewed as phreaks/freaks.
{}
{}  I've listened to this song god-knows-how-many times and I don't remember
{}  any woman saying any such things.  I guess I'm just too preoccupied
{}  listening to that noise that accompanies the words...you know, we call it
{}  the music?
{}
{}

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From: [e-mail] (John Shore - Student - SunSoft)
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:51:46 +0100

I have a copy of Orbital III(?), satan is the first track and the first three minutes of it suck, I am told the live version is much better.

Halcyon-I don't think you can over rate this.

J.
{}  From [e-mail] Tue Oct  1 21:35 BST 1996
{}  X-Sender: [e-mail]
{}  Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:09:49 -0500
{}  To: [e-mail]
{}  From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
{}  Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
{}  Mime-Version: 1.0
{}
{}  >youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural
{}  >demigod of all songs created.
{}  >
{}  >jonathan
{}  >
{}  >united states orbital obsessor.
{}
{}  You know, the more I listen to Orbital 1 I find it increasingly superior to
{}  Orbital 2.  I don't think it's really that far out to say Orbital 2 is
{}  Orbital's worst work.  It's gorgeous music, of course, but it's quite dim
{}  and repetitive compared to Snivilization and In Sides.  Orbital 2 is also
{}  home to Orbital's two most overrated works, Lush and Halcyon.
{}
{}  Satan Forever baby.....
{}
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From: Fraser Macdonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:58:19 +0100

Throat Dibbler wrote:
> > youre wrong pal. orbital2 is the greatest and lush is the natural
> > demigod of all songs created.
> >
> > jonathan
> >
> > united states orbital obsessor.
>
> I'm afraid I must concur wholeheartedly. I'm not sure if overall the brown
> is better than In Sides, but it's gotta be close, and It doesn't get any
> better than Lush. (Other than Halcyon + On + On, which is, of course,
> *the* best out of the lot)
>

Have to agree with this...Lush is the track which got me into Orbital.
It still
makes me go weak at the knees...

Fraser

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 12:36:26 BST


>Sent by:[e-mail] (John Shore - Student - SunSoft)
> I have a copy of Orbital III(?), satan is the first track and the first
>three minutes of it suck, I am told the live version is much better.

Live version is a lot better....but i LOVE the old version as well. BTW
people call it III because it has a III on the front! Its the Satan EP in
the UK.
Its one of their mothers favourite tracks (along with Speed Freak (not the
 Moby muckup), Quality Seconds).

>Halcyon-I don't think you can over rate this.

I like Halcyon (all versions) but i do think that people go over the top
on it. Its good but not the BEST work they have done. It got thrown out of
proportion after the NME drug-related interview.

And to all the this is better than that messages:-

EPs, LPS, Remixes, Rares

I LOVE THEM ALL.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Orbital Zine.
http://www.cybercity.hko.net/birmingham/loopz (Last Update 23/09/96)
On IRC at Dismayl.Demon.CO.Uk - known as LOOPZ (and a few others)
  and Uk.Undernet.Org

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From: michael george <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Duck Feet
Date: 02 Oct 1996 08:16:44 -0700


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>I don't think you are listening to the music. The words are a very =
important part of the music. >If you haven't heard "any woman saying any =
such things" then maybe a change of stereo is in >order.

>Orbitals recordings are always of the highest quality and good stereo =
brings so much more >out of there music.

i have to agree a good stereo system definitely brings out the best =
.nothing like a good $1200
powered sub working its magic on an orbital track !!
mick

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Duck Feet
Date: 02 Oct 1996 11:32:58 -0500

At 08:49 AM 10/2/96 +0100, you wrote:
>I don't think you are listening to the music. The words are a very
important part of the music. If you haven't heard "any woman saying any
such things" then maybe a change of stereo is in order.
>
>Orbitals recordings are always of the highest quality and good stereo
brings so much more out of there music.

I think you're right there.  I listened to the track with an expensive set
of headphones and while it's definitely easier to hear the woman's voice,
it's still not as prominent as the man's voice which I can hear on any
stereo system.

RIGHT down the hatch, WITHOUT a scratch....


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET!
Date: 02 Oct 1996 17:52:15 BST

Spoke to Paul Hartnoll about a few things, so id thought id mention the
Duck Feet discussion and get the lowdown and what he wrote the track
about.

He basically said that he sampled the freak show (of a documentary) and
plastic surgery advertisements. The track is based on a book written by an
American author called Dr. Suessbook (sp?). The author wrote many children
titles including a book about a lad who kept wishing he had unusual parts.
Example - he wished he had a trunk, a tail and of course duck feet. The
lad is always trying to improve himself thinking he would be more
appealing.
Paul believes the book is called very similar to "I Wish I Had Duck Feet",
but believes they (P&P) may have changed the title very slightly. The
moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better of as we
are!".

So there you have it

Did you all enjoy that ?

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 02 Oct 1996 17:57:53 BST


>Sent by:chris davis <[e-mail]>
> Cheers.
>I'll check with you again before i send it.

Many thanks.

>P.S. are P & P playing here in LosAngeles in November?this is a rumor
>as of yet...

Just spoke to Paul and he said that there was talk, but that is all at the
moment. He said that he would love to do another 3 weeks tour in the
states but then people moan about having new material. He likes the idea
that there are shouts of "You never come near here". He thinks that the
new material might take preference over the tour. But the rumour could
still come alive....

Steve
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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET!
Date: 02 Oct 1996 12:00:52 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Spoke to Paul Hartnoll about a few things, so id thought id mention the
> Duck Feet discussion and get the lowdown and what he wrote the track
> about.
>
> He basically said that he sampled the freak show (of a documentary) and
> plastic surgery advertisements. The track is based on a book written by an
> American author called Dr. Suessbook (sp?). The author wrote many children
> titles including a book about a lad who kept wishing he had unusual parts.
> Example - he wished he had a trunk, a tail and of course duck feet. The
> lad is always trying to improve himself thinking he would be more
> appealing.


do you mean Dr. Suess?  he was a great children's author.  i still have
all the books of his i got as a child.

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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET!
Date: 02 Oct 1996 13:19 EDT

>American author called Dr. Suessbook (sp?). The author wrote many children
It's Dr. Seuss.  I think I still have all the books in the attic somewhere.
Here's a page on him--has list of book titles, but the only related title I
saw was 'foot book'
http://www.afn.org/~afn15301/drseuss.html
the actual titles are here:
http://www.afn.org/~afn15301/seussfiles/seussbip.html
We'd probably have to actually look in the books to find out which one it is
(if someone is so inclined).
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From: Jason Broome <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET!
Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:31:18 +0100

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Spoke to Paul Hartnoll about a few things, so id thought id mention the
> Duck Feet discussion and get the lowdown and what he wrote the track
> about.
>
> He basically said that he sampled the freak show (of a documentary) and
> plastic surgery advertisements. The track is based on a book written by an
> American author called Dr. Suessbook (sp?). The author wrote many children
> titles including a book about a lad who kept wishing he had unusual parts.
> Example - he wished he had a trunk, a tail and of course duck feet. The
> lad is always trying to improve himself thinking he would be more
> appealing.
> Paul believes the book is called very similar to "I Wish I Had Duck Feet",
> but believes they (P&P) may have changed the title very slightly. The
> moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better of as we
> are!".

Yeah, I've read that! and at the end he gets all the bits he's wished
for all at the same time and they put him in a cage and everybody laughs
at him. The best bit is where he wants to have a blow hole thing off a
whale. He gets this big silver fountain thing on his head that spurts
water all over the place, great.

I think I've still got it somewhere, if I can find it I'll scan the pics
and stick them on the web, well cool pictures. God, that brings back my
childhood...Rupert...Barney the bear(original)... I could go on for
ages!

--
Jason Broome
Software Engineer

Life is sweet and so is the tea.
Keep it clean and keep it green!

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From: "Aimee C. Merritt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET!
Date: 02 Oct 1996 10:42:25 -0400 (EDT)

The book in question is Dr. Seuss "I Wish That I Had Duck Feet"
published in 1967. (Hey, working in a library does have some
advantages).





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 14:00:14 -0700

Jonathan Wayne wrote:
>
> > It's more dancefloor orientated.
> >
> > Toddy.
>
> sir, these words are so inferior i must reside to say that lush and the
> songs on orbital2 are works of musical art! sure it could be found at
> some raves and clubs but in general it is not solely dancefloor
> oriented.

I did not say it was solely dancefloor orientated. jusr more dancefloor
orientated than anything else, Orbital were part of the motorway rave
parties in the early 90s, chime is a rave tune, as is choice.
Remind is great to dance to, as is Impact, that doesn't mean it is made
for dancing, I love listening to it as well. The first Orbital I heard
was Are We Here? - I wasn't into dance music before i heard that, but
Orbital got me into different forms of dance stuff. Besides, dancing to
music is enjoying music...
I love Orbital because their music is beautiful.

Toddy.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 14:01:57 -0700

Digger wrote:
>
> At 08:52 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote:
> I agree Lets Stop This Dispute!  Orbital Kicks A**!  We Can Leave It At That!

yeah, lets all just say that orbital are ace and lets all abandon the
mailing list idea altogether! ;)

Toddy.



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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 02 Oct 1996 12:25:04 -0700

Steve thus spoke the words of God:
>
>Just spoke to Paul and he said that there was talk, but that is all at the
>moment. He said that he would love to do another 3 weeks tour in the
>states but then people moan about having new material. He likes the idea
>that there are shouts of "You never come near here". He thinks that the
>new material might take preference over the tour. But the rumour could
>still come alive...

Steve:

They could play all old stuff for all that I care.  Just send them my way!

Also, I just came back from the post office.  Pix are in the mail to you.
I'm taking the negs in to get an 8 x 10 of "SATAN".  You'll see why when
the pix arrive.

--Anne

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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET!
Date: 02 Oct 1996 13:05:57 -0700

Steve spoke with God (AGAIN!) and God said:

>The moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better off
>as we
>are!".

I thought the moral of the story was that no matter what way you look at
it, we're all freaks (phreaks in the UK) and before you go judging someone
else as a f[ph]reak look at your own self first (Do not judge lest ye be
judged?  Or some approximate quote).

Dangit Steve, you take all the f[ph]un out of a discussion!  :(

Love ya anyway,

--Anne

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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 16:45:38 -0500

Fraser wrote,

> Have to agree with this...Lush is the track which got me into Orbital.
> It still
> makes me go weak at the knees...
>
> Fraser


Have to concurrently agree with that as well.

jonathan

U.S.O.O.U.S.    (United States Orbitaler Orbiting United States)

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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 16:59:14 -0500

Toddy wrote:

> I did not say it was solely dancefloor orientated. jusr more dancefloor
> orientated than anything else, Orbital were part of the motorway rave
> parties in the early 90s, chime is a rave tune, as is choice.
> Remind is great to dance to, as is Impact, that doesn't mean it is made
> for dancing, I love listening to it as well. The first Orbital I heard
> was Are We Here? - I wasn't into dance music before i heard that, but
> Orbital got me into different forms of dance stuff. Besides, dancing to
> music is enjoying music...
> I love Orbital because their music is beautiful.
>
> Toddy.
>


got it. how about diversions? id say thats more dancefloor oriented.
trouble is it wasnt as popular to begin with when it first came out.
have a second opinion?


jonathan

U.S.O.O.U.S.   (United States Orbitaler Orbiting United States)

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:17:26 -0500


>
>>Sent by:chris davis <[e-mail]>
>> Cheers.
>>I'll check with you again before i send it.
>
>Many thanks.
>
>>P.S. are P & P playing here in LosAngeles in November?this is a rumor
>>as of yet...
>
>Just spoke to Paul and he said that there was talk, but that is all at the
>moment. He said that he would love to do another 3 weeks tour in the
>states but then people moan about having new material. He likes the idea
>that there are shouts of "You never come near here". He thinks that the
>new material might take preference over the tour. But the rumour could
>still come alive....
                Hey!!!! Steve!!! My Man!!!  If You Get ANY Input Into The
Subject!
                Tell Them To Swing By In Chicago Illinois   Or  Some Where
In Indiana!
                And It Has To BE An All Ages Show!!
                THANX!
>Steve
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:20:03 -0500

>Digger wrote:
>>
>> At 08:52 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote:
>> I agree Lets Stop This Dispute!  Orbital Kicks A**!  We Can Leave It At That!
>
>yeah, lets all just say that orbital are ace and lets all abandon the
>mailing list idea altogether! ;)
>
>Toddy.
>
        Well I Didn't Mean That We Should Stop The Mailing List!
        Just The Stupid Arguements That People Have About ORBITAL!
        Well Their Best Song Is This... No Its This..... No I Say... Well I Say!

DIGGER
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 02 Oct 1996 18:21:47 -0500


>Steve thus spoke the words of God:
>>
>>Just spoke to Paul and he said that there was talk, but that is all at the
>>moment. He said that he would love to do another 3 weeks tour in the
>>states but then people moan about having new material. He likes the idea
>>that there are shouts of "You never come near here". He thinks that the
>>new material might take preference over the tour. But the rumour could
>>still come alive...
>
>Steve:
>
>They could play all old stuff for all that I care.  Just send them my way!
>
>Also, I just came back from the post office.  Pix are in the mail to you.
>I'm taking the negs in to get an 8 x 10 of "SATAN".  You'll see why when
>the pix arrive.
                What Ar eThese Pics Of?  Is There A Chance They Can Be
Scanned                 and posted Some Where?  If The Scanning Thing Can't
Happen If I Can Get                 Copies Of Them I Can Scan Them And Post
Them Some Where!
                                DIGGER
>--Anne
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:00:16 BST


>Sent by:"Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>

Anne!

>They could play all old stuff for all that I care.  Just send them my
>way!

I know what u mean....id want new stuff as well though.
Cant have everything can we

>Also, I just came back from the post office.  Pix are in the mail to you.
>I'm taking the negs in to get an 8 x 10 of "SATAN".  You'll see why when
>the pix arrive.

Thanks again....but why dont you email me personally?????

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET!
Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:03:53 BST


> Steve spoke with God (AGAIN!) and God said:

But i dont believe in God :(

>The moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better off
>as we are!".

>I thought the moral of the story was that no matter what way you look at
>it, we're all freaks (phreaks in the UK) and before you go judging
>someone else as a f[ph]reak look at your own self first (Do not judge
>lest ye be judged?  Or some approximate quote).

I dont know Anne....thats why i asked him. I thought the discussion was
brilliant....just look what you started!

>Dangit Steve, you take all the f[ph]un out of a discussion!  :(

Ok.....whats the next track to rip apart....Desert Storm...nah too easy
and i know the full story on that one already.
Omen ? Speed Freak ? Halycon ?

Steve
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Paul H tells all about DUCK FEET!
Date: 03 Oct 1996 05:56:41 -0500


>
>> Steve spoke with God (AGAIN!) and God said:
>
>But i dont believe in God :(
>
>>The moral of the story from Pauls mouth and I quote is "We are better off
>>as we are!".
>
>>I thought the moral of the story was that no matter what way you look at
>>it, we're all freaks (phreaks in the UK) and before you go judging
>>someone else as a f[ph]reak look at your own self first (Do not judge
>>lest ye be judged?  Or some approximate quote).
>
>I dont know Anne....thats why i asked him. I thought the discussion was
>brilliant....just look what you started!
>
>>Dangit Steve, you take all the f[ph]un out of a discussion!  :(
>
>Ok.....whats the next track to rip apart....Desert Storm...nah too easy
>and i know the full story on that one already.
>Omen ? Speed Freak ? Halycon ?
                I Say We Go For Spead Freak Or Halycon! (If those are the
only 2 choices)!
                        DIGGER
>Steve
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From: Sanjay Arora <[e-mail]>
Subject: Are We Here?/Vapourspace
Date: 03 Oct 1996 08:31:25 -0400

Hi Guys (and Girls),

I just thought I'd add something new for us argue about.

What do you guys think about Vapourspace's remix/resequencing of "Are We
Here?"
The first time I heard it, I thought it was "pure shite" (for all you
Brits out there;) ), but the more I listen to it the more I like it.
The first two minutes of sampling border on genius, and when the music
actually gets started...it's incredible.

I'm not really big on remixes, most of the time I like the original
version of songs the best, but in this case Vapourspace's remix is right
on par with the Hartnoll Boys version.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Later,
Sanjay

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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Track Meanings
Date: 03 Oct 1996 08:56 EDT

>Ok.....whats the next track to rip apart....Desert Storm...nah too easy
>and i know the full story on that one already.
>Omen ? Speed Freak ? Halycon ?
Steve, feel free to just tell us all you know on this subject (maybe not all
at once though--you could probably write a book on this stuff; especially
with your superb contacts!)  Please pick a few and let's cycle through their
meanings and/or where they came from.  The rest of us would be playing
guessing games all day! ;)
So why DID they write a track about Desert Storm ...hmmmm?
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 03 Oct 1996 08:20:35 -0500

Digger is American? oh my God.


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Are We Here?/Vapourspace
Date: 03 Oct 1996 08:22:14 -0500

Where is this Vapourspace remix available? Is it a single?


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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 03 Oct 1996 07:40:56 -0700

Anthony is American?  Buy a better stereo system so you can hear the lyrics
which are just as much a part of a track as the music.  But then, you've
already been flamed for this.

It's Thursday.  Play nice or I'm going to have to take you to the
principal's office at recess.

--Anne

Anthony's bit o' enlightenment:
>Digger is American? oh my God.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Are We Here?/Vapourspace
Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:58:42 BST


>I just thought I'd add something new for us argue about.

Lovely.

>What do you guys think about Vapourspace's remix/resequencing of "Are We
>Here?"

Its ok.

>The first time I heard it, I thought it was "pure shite" (for all you
>Brits out there;) ),

Is that a Brit saying then ? ;) Or is that Trainspotting ?

> but the more I listen to it the more I like it.

Its average....but i do like Vapourspaces original work better.

>I'm not really big on remixes, most of the time I like the original
>version of songs the best, but in this case Vapourspace's remix is right
>on par with the Hartnoll Boys version.

Im stuck to say who i think is close to the Bros.

Steve
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From: michael george <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Are We Here?/Vapourspace
Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:10:11 -0700


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>What do you guys think about Vapourspace's remix/resequencing of "Are We
>Here?"
>The first time I heard it, I thought it was "pure shite" (for all you
>Brits out there;) ), but the more I listen to it the more I like it.
>The first two minutes of sampling border on genius, and when the music
>actually gets started...it's incredible.

       i was not aware of it.is it on a cd single or album let me know and i'll go get it and give my               imput,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Track Meanings
Date: 03 Oct 1996 16:12:42 BST


>So why DID they write a track about Desert Storm ...hmmmm?

Desert Storm - Named after the Desert Storm codename for the Gulf War.
They were actually recording the track when the first allies attack was
broadcast on the Tv (very early in the morning in the UK if i remember).
There is more to it...but thats the jist of it!

Cheers

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:attachments
Date: 03 Oct 1996 10:34:18 -0700

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From: Wesley Eccleston <[e-mail]>
Subject: ORBITAL I-still confused...
Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:36:57 -0800 (PST)

Not to stray everyone from the topics at hand, I have a bit of a problem
which I hope to discover the answer to via all of your aid.  I'll be
as sucinct as possible.

I understand that ORBITAL I should have the following tunes:

1)Belfast (8.05)
2)Moebius (7.00)
3)Speed Freak [moby remix] (5.40)
4)Fahrenheit 3d3 (7.04)
5)Desert Storm (12.05)
6)Oolaa (8.22)
7)Chime (8.01)
8)Satan (6.44)
9)Choice (5.30)
10)Midnight (5.08)

BUT, big butt, my ORBITAL I has the following songs:

1)The Moebius (7.01)
2)Speed Freak (7.17)
3)Oolaa (6.15)
4)Desert Storm (12.06)
5)Fahrenheit 303 (8.26)
6)Steel Cube Idolatry (6.24)
7)High Rise (8.23)
8)Chime Live (5.56)
9)Midnight Live (6.53)
10)Belfast* (8.06)

?11?)some unmentioned song (.35)

There is obviously a dicrepency.  My version lacks SATAN, which I long to
hear, and also CHOICE.  In their place, I have STEEL CUBE IDOLATRY and
HIGH RISE.  What gives?  My song order is completely wacko, the songs
themselves differ, at times, in duration and what's with the LIVE at the
end of CHIME and MIDNIGHT?  My CD is a lime-tinged yellow with the
ORBITAL insignia and a circle with the letters 'CD' in is borders.  It has
a labelled anatomical hearton the inside of the CD sleave/jacket.  Most of
the songs correspond, so is this still ORBITAL I?  Is my copy just some
funkdafied Canadian version?  Anyone who has anyclue, rsvp, wesleyeccleston.


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From: "Aimee C. Merritt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ORBITAL I-still confused...
Date: 03 Oct 1996 11:48:31 -0400 (EDT)

There is a British version and a US version-- yours sounds like the UK
version to me although I have both so I often forget which is which.
Hope this helps.





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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ORBITAL I-still confused...
Date: 03 Oct 1996 14:57 EDT

The difference is between the US and UK versions of this CD.
This is the US version:
>1)Belfast (8.05)
>2)Moebius (7.00)
>3)Speed Freak [moby remix] (5.40)
>4)Fahrenheit 3d3 (7.04)
>5)Desert Storm (12.05)
>6)Oolaa (8.22)
>7)Chime (8.01)
>8)Satan (6.44)
>9)Choice (5.30)
>10)Midnight (5.08)

This is the UK version:
>1)The Moebius (7.01)
>2)Speed Freak (7.17)
>3)Oolaa (6.15)
>4)Desert Storm (12.06)
>5)Fahrenheit 303 (8.26)
>6)Steel Cube Idolatry (6.24)
>7)High Rise (8.23)
>8)Chime Live (5.56)
>9)Midnight Live (6.53)
>10)Belfast* (8.06)
>
>?11?)some unmentioned song (.35)
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 03 Oct 1996 14:11:01 -0500

At 07:40 AM 10/3/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Anthony is American?  Buy a better stereo system so you can hear the lyrics
>which are just as much a part of a track as the music.  But then, you've
>already been flamed for this.
>
>It's Thursday.  Play nice or I'm going to have to take you to the
>principal's office at recess.
>
>--Anne

1.  "lyrics...are just as much a part of a track as the music"

This is offensive.  It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and
effort the brothers put into their tracks.  Need you be reminded that the
greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes
that argument, Anne.

2. "Buy a better stereo system..."

I intend to.  But my problem is the road noise from my car, not the quality
of the stereo in the car.  I don't like listening to Orbital at my
apartment because my neighbors upstairs complain.  Therefore, when at home
I listen to them on a very nice set of headphones.  In other words, I need
a new car, not a stereo.  And I've been flamed? LOL.

3. I wasn't trying to put down Mr. Digger.  I was just suprised that
someone with such an odd writing style lives within 6 hours driving time
from my house.  I have no problems with Digger....he certainly shows much
enthusiasm for Orbital's genius.  If I've offended him, I sincerely offer
an apology.

4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives
a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since
the charges were delivered publicly.

Again, I'm sorry if I pissed people off.  I didn't mean it.


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From: Jeff Horton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:Bullshit
Date: 03 Oct 1996 13:11:03 -0700

My mother always said If you can't say anything nice don't say anything
at all.

"Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives
a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly
since
the charges were delivered publicly."- Anthony A

Maybe you should follow your own advice.

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From: Wesley Eccleston <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ORBITAL I-still confused...
Date: 03 Oct 1996 13:42:23 -0800 (PST)

Thanks guys! I really appreciate the clarification.  I am still awaiting
my SATAN in the mail.  -wesleyeccleston.

On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, ebbhead wrote:

> The difference is between the US and UK versions of this CD.
> This is the US version:
> >1)Belfast (8.05)
> >2)Moebius (7.00)
> >3)Speed Freak [moby remix] (5.40)
> >4)Fahrenheit 3d3 (7.04)
> >5)Desert Storm (12.05)
> >6)Oolaa (8.22)
> >7)Chime (8.01)
> >8)Satan (6.44)
> >9)Choice (5.30)
> >10)Midnight (5.08)
>
> This is the UK version:
> >1)The Moebius (7.01)
> >2)Speed Freak (7.17)
> >3)Oolaa (6.15)
> >4)Desert Storm (12.06)
> >5)Fahrenheit 303 (8.26)
> >6)Steel Cube Idolatry (6.24)
> >7)High Rise (8.23)
> >8)Chime Live (5.56)
> >9)Midnight Live (6.53)
> >10)Belfast* (8.06)
> >
> >?11?)some unmentioned song (.35)
> _____________________________________________________
>
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> _____________________________________________________
>
>

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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Request- List of Orbital Sample Sites (in Real Audio)
Date: 03 Oct 1996 16:48:26 -0500

Could someone please list the sites where Real audio files are available
of live Orbital shows and Albums?

Thanks
Mike
[e-mail]
http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm

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From: Wesley Eccleston <[e-mail]>
Subject: hissy-fits
Date: 03 Oct 1996 13:38:08 -0800 (PST)


Let's end this right now.  I know I'm a total newbie, but I don't
care to read anymore personal banter.  I subscribed to this 'channel' for
the orbital conversation, not the hissy-fits.  Gawd, I'm beginning to
wish we were still debating over LUSH. -wesleyeccleston.

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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:00:13 -0700

I stated:
>>..the lyrics [snip] are just as much a part of a track as the music.

Anthony offered to enlighten us with the following bit of brilliance:

>This is offensive.  It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and
>effort the brothers put into their tracks.  Need you be reminded that the
>greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes
>that argument, Anne.

I retort:

Anthony:  Ever heard of some dude by the name of Beethoven?  He wrote like
a *gob* of music.  Maybe you should tune in the his 9th symphony.  He wrote
it when he was completely deaf.  4th movement would be good to start with.
If you play it on even a poor system, you can hear (oh my god!) lyrics!
Wouldn't you define this one piece of music as classical and hence one of
the greatest pieces of music in all the world?  Oh, or how about Bach or
Mozart?  They ring a bell as classical composers?  They wrote plenty of
tunes *with* lyrics.

There goes your argument, Anthony.

Also, regarding Orbital, I suppose they put lyrics in their music just to
annoy the hell out of you!  Guess you skip right over things like "Chime",
"Satan", "Wish I had Duck Feet", "The Box" (4th movement--suppose they took
a cue from Beethoven?), "Out There Somewhere?", "Dwr Budr", "Sad But New",
"Philosophy By Numbers", "Are We Here"...well I think you get the idea.

I guess this means Orbital insults their own music according to your standards.

[snip]

>4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives
>a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since
>the charges were delivered publicly.

I wasn't the one who wasted everyone's bandwidth with you whining about
Digger living here in America.  You said, "Digger lives in America?  Oh my
god!"  Boy!  That was just chock-full of Orbital related information,
Anthony.  Why didn't you reply privately to him or better yet call him on
the phone, since he only lives 6 hours from you.

As for people here giving a shit about me and my non-Orbital-related
whinings, I've stayed on topic.  You were the one who strayed by posting
your non-Orbital-related whining.

I'm replying publicly, since your alligations demand that I do so.

--Anne

_____________________________________________________________________________

***SAVE TIBET***



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From: "Aimee C. Merritt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 03 Oct 1996 15:21:27 -0400 (EDT)

I think what Anthony is trying to say is that the original music that
Orbital creates is perhaps more important than the borrowed samples
that they use. Of course the two work in tandem with one another in the
long run but the music is pure Orbital whereas the sample in
Satan, for example, is a hybrid of Orbital and the Butthole Surfers.

> Also, regarding Orbital, I suppose they put lyrics in their music just to
> annoy the hell out of you!  Guess you skip right over things like "Chime",
> "Satan", "Wish I had Duck Feet", "The Box" (4th movement--suppose they took
> a cue from Beethoven?), "Out There Somewhere?", "Dwr Budr", "Sad But New",
> "Philosophy By Numbers", "Are We Here"...well I think you get the idea.

I would have to say that I prefer Orbital to use snippets of samples or
none at all. I think the vocal versions of The Box and Belfast/Wasted
on the Volume series are very sub-par. Just my two cents..
By the way, since when does Chime have vocals?





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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:28:12 -0500

At 08:20 AM 10/3/96 -0500, you wrote:
Sure Am!
Why Are You Oh My Goding?

DIGGER

>Digger is American? oh my God.
>
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:36:48 -0500

        You Guys Wrote This Stuff:
>At 07:40 AM 10/3/96 -0700, you wrote:
>>Anthony is American?  Buy a better stereo system so you can hear the lyrics
>>which are just as much a part of a track as the music.  But then, you've
>>already been flamed for this.
>>
>>It's Thursday.  Play nice or I'm going to have to take you to the
>>principal's office at recess.
>>
>>--Anne
>
>1.  "lyrics...are just as much a part of a track as the music"
>
>This is offensive.  It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and
>effort the brothers put into their tracks.  Need you be reminded that the
>greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes
>that argument, Anne.
>
>2. "Buy a better stereo system..."
>
>I intend to.  But my problem is the road noise from my car, not the quality
>of the stereo in the car.  I don't like listening to Orbital at my
>apartment because my neighbors upstairs complain.  Therefore, when at home
>I listen to them on a very nice set of headphones.  In other words, I need
>a new car, not a stereo.  And I've been flamed? LOL.
>
>3. I wasn't trying to put down Mr. Digger.  I was just suprised that
>someone with such an odd writing style lives within 6 hours driving time
>from my house.  I have no problems with Digger....he certainly shows much
>enthusiasm for Orbital's genius.  If I've offended him, I sincerely offer
>an apology.
>
>4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives
>a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since
>the charges were delivered publicly.
>
>Again, I'm sorry if I pissed people off.  I didn't mean it.
>


>I have no problems with Digger
And I None With You!
>he certainly shows much
>enthusiasm for Orbital's genius.
Better Believe It!
> If I've offended him
Nope Not At All!  Proud To Be American! (Just as whoever you are should be
prroud to be what you are)!
>I sincerely offer
>an apology.
None Needed!

Again, I'm sorry if I pissed people off.  I didn't mean it.
        Me Too!

DIGGER
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Request- List of Orbital Sample Sites (in Real Audio)
Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:38:34 -0500

At 04:48 PM 10/3/96 -0500, you wrote:
My Site Digger's Hole In The Ground Home Page Offers RA Orbital stuff!
I only have the 14.4 connection though!  So they don't sound the greatest!
My URL for the ORBITAL section is:  Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/orbital.htm
DIGGER

>Could someone please list the sites where Real audio files are available
>of live Orbital shows and Albums?
>
>Thanks
>Mike
>[e-mail]
>http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm
>
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hissy-fits
Date: 03 Oct 1996 17:44:28 -0500

At 01:38 PM 10/3/96 -0800, you wrote:
Guys (Anne and Anthony)
        Please!  I feel like i'm being fought over or for or some thing!
        Stop! Please!  For The Good Of Every one!
        I'm not blameing any one just making a simple request!
        I hope no one will get pissed for me posting this!
        (DON't "FLAME" Me)

DIGGER

>
>Let's end this right now.  I know I'm a total newbie, but I don't
>care to read anymore personal banter.  I subscribed to this 'channel' for
>the orbital conversation, not the hissy-fits.  Gawd, I'm beginning to
>wish we were still debating over LUSH. -wesleyeccleston.
>
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Lush, in general...
Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:42:56 -0700

Digger wrote:
>
> >Digger wrote:
> >>
> >> At 08:52 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote:
> >> I agree Lets Stop This Dispute!  Orbital Kicks A**!  We Can Leave It At That!
> >
> >yeah, lets all just say that orbital are ace and lets all abandon the
> >mailing list idea altogether! ;)
> >
> >Toddy.
> >
>         Well I Didn't Mean That We Should Stop The Mailing List!
>         Just The Stupid Arguements That People Have About ORBITAL!
>         Well Their Best Song Is This... No Its This..... No I Say...

it was a joke.



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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Price! I need your e-amil addy!
Date: 03 Oct 1996 20:27:56 -0500

Steve!
        Hey I Hate To Post This Message On The List (I know i'll get "flamed")
        but i don't know your private e-mail address!
        So give it to me privately!

DIGGER
P.S. The RA encoder Zip File Is Ready To Come To You!
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Real Audio At ClubIMusic
Date: 03 Oct 1996 21:10:59 -0500

Hey Guys (and all you gals!)
        Does any one know if the Real Audio File Of ORBITAL "live at seatle
train station"
        Is saveable from cluimusic?

        I was listening to it and i love it!

        if any one has pulled off the little trick of saving it please PK
ZIP it up and send it to         me!  or if you know how please let me know
how to do it!

        THANX!
DIGGER
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: [e-mail]
Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:20:54 -0400

That's it !  I'm outta here.


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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:
Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:09:04 -0500

At 10:20 PM 10/3/96 -0400, you wrote:
Ok Bye! (not to be rude)
>That's it !  I'm outta here.
>
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hissy-fits
Date: 04 Oct 1996 00:33:18 -0500

Wesley Eccleston wrote:
>
> Let's end this right now.  I know I'm a total newbie, but I don't
> care to read anymore personal banter.  I subscribed to this 'channel' for
> the orbital conversation, not the hissy-fits.  Gawd, I'm beginning to
> wish we were still debating over LUSH. -wesleyeccleston.


kudos for me then. you can talk about lush till the cows come home!

jonathan

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From: michael george <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: e-mail attachments
Date: 04 Oct 1996 01:11:34 -0700

this is the last test please bare with me,i think i fixed it.if theres no extra crap on the end of this message then we'll all be happy :)
                         i appreciate your patience

>Hi Michael,

>Whenever you send a message to the orbital mailing list, your e-mail
>software sends an attachment along with it.  It's kind of annoying for
>everyone to have to go and delete this attached file every time we receive a
>message from you.  Is there some way you can turn this feature off on your
>end?  Thanks. :)
_____________________________________________________


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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Real Audio At ClubIMusic
Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:22:31 -0700 (PDT)

On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Digger wrote:

> Hey Guys (and all you gals!)
>         Does any one know if the Real Audio File Of ORBITAL "live at seatle
> train station"
>         Is saveable from cluimusic?

I don't know how to save it but I have my stero hooked up to my computer
and I recorded the show on to a tape for my friend who doesn't have a
sound card.

later,

ajay

Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma         |    -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=-
[e-mail]             |       Internet Services
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From: [e-mail] (John Shore - Student - SunSoft)
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 04 Oct 1996 09:29:34 +0100


I assume that you are refering to the duck feet tune on Sniverlisation change the lyrics in this tune to any other set of words or scrap them altogether and the tune would lose its touch of genius and would NOT be anything special.


John

>1.  "lyrics...are just as much a part of a track as the music"

>This is offensive.  It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and
>effort the brothers put into their tracks.  Need you be reminded that the
>greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes
>that argument, Anne.

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From: Marcus Lund <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital Digest V2 #75
Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:18:40 +0800 (WST)

halcyon is easy to decipher - J.O.Y.!

and does anyone want to compare Are We Here and P.E.T.R.O.L. to jungle
music? i reckon P&P are saying something here - it sounds to me like they
are taking a new style of music and showing us all how good they can make
it...petrol is wicked to dance too

oh - anyone listened to the beloved song satellite? i reckon it grooves as
a take off of com. tekno.

my piece
marcus



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:ORBITAL I-still confused...
Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:04:51 BST


>I understand that ORBITAL I should have the following tunes:

It does if you have the American version (came out a year l8r than the
original).

>BUT, big butt, my ORBITAL I has the following songs:

Which is the original UK release....this is the yellow album i love!


>?11?)some unmentioned song (.35)

I think this is disgusting....or....Aint that disgusting (not confirmed as
yet...even Paul couldnt remember of his head! ;)    ).


>There is obviously a dicrepency.  My version lacks SATAN, which I long to
>hear, and also CHOICE.

Get the EPs....or wait for the live CD/12.

>  In their place, I have STEEL CUBE IDOLATRY and HIGH RISE.

I love High Rise....


> and what's with the LIVE at the end of CHIME and MIDNIGHT?

It means that it is LIVE....not a studio recording.
You cannot get these tracks anywhere else....so njoi them!

You have the Original UK release....the first release of the CD.
Keep it!
Love it!
Cheerish it!

Play it!

Steve
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DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Tour of USA ?
Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:13:11 BST


>>Anthony is American?  Buy a better stereo system so you can hear the
>>lyrics which are just as much a part of a track as the music.  But then,
>>you've already been flamed for this.
>>It's Thursday.  Play nice or I'm going to have to take you to the
>>principal's office at recess.
>>--Anne

>1.  "lyrics...are just as much a part of a track as the music"

>This is offensive.  It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and
>effort the brothers put into their tracks.  Need you be reminded that the
>greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There
>goes that argument, Anne.

Hey Hey Hey....
Lyrics and the Music CAN play just as improtant part in a track. It
depends on the track dont it really....there is no set rule.
Classical Music IS not IMHO the greatest music in the world....Personally
i think it sucks! But Personally other people think it is the greatest.
We all have different views guys....lets not fall out over them.

>2. "Buy a better stereo system..."

>I intend to.  But my problem is the road noise from my car, not the
>quality of the stereo in the car.

I listen to all my music in the car....hardly ever at home.

>4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here
>gives a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying
>publicly since the charges were delivered publicly.

I CARE!
Ive spoken to both of you  b4 and you two seem sound (ok) to me.
I think you both misunderstood each other....seriously.
It happens all the while....dont it?

>Again, I'm sorry if I pissed people off.  I didn't mean it.

Kiss and make up guys!

:)

Steve
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DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re:Bullshit
Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:14:59 BST


>Sent by:Jeff Horton <[e-mail]>
> My mother always said If you can't say anything nice don't say anything
>at all.

And when you see your mother...can you tell her....
SATAN..SATAN..SATAN!

Couldnt resist it!
:)

Steve
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CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ
DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:22:26 BST


>I would have to say that I prefer Orbital to use snippets of samples or
>none at all. I think the vocal versions of The Box and Belfast/Wasted
>on the Volume series are very sub-par. Just my two cents..

Thanks for the cents
But you gotta realise that BELFAST/WASTED was done as an experiment. It
was not released by Orbital as an Orbital single. It was released by
Volume who had bought the right to the track. A lot of people go on about
how shit Belfast/Wasted is....its certainly not my favourite track...but
it was done by experiment. Not having a go by the way just in case anyone
reads this and gets the wrong idea....Love you Digger ;)

As for the Box...again experiment but was released by Orbital.
I liked it.

>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals?

In the Live version from the 92 tour...Madonna "Material girl" sampled and
embedded brilliantly...and everyone else gets wet over Halycon....!

Steve
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Subject: re:Re: orbital Digest V2 #75
Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:36:44 BST


>Sent by:Marcus Lund <[e-mail]>
> halcyon is easy to decipher - J.O.Y.!

Ok go for it m8...

>and does anyone want to compare Are We Here and P.E.T.R.O.L. to jungle
>music?

It has Jungle beats...but P.E.T.R.O.L does not have that crappy deep
thuding bass that Jungle insists on having. But Are We Here ? does
occasionally (very!).
Paul Mison....See P.E.T.R.O.L = bits of Jungle (Review - In Sides - Loopz
Issue 1) <grin>

> i reckon P&P are saying something here - it sounds to me like they
>are taking a new style of music and showing us all how good they can make
>it...petrol is wicked to dance too

Its not a new style here in the UK. Its been around quite a long time and
gets too much airplay. When Orbital did Are We Here? they got good reviews
for it as it touched the Jungle theme but i was suprised (pleased) they
took the theme in a different direction with P.E.T.R.O.L. Dont think they
will do any more....they do tend to move on.

>oh - anyone listened to the beloved song satellite? i reckon it grooves
>as a take off of com. tekno.

Ive heard it....do like it. Beloved tend to do some good stuff and then
bring out crap!

Steve
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Re:Bullshit
Date: 04 Oct 1996 05:42:40 -0500

>
>>Sent by:Jeff Horton <[e-mail]>
>> My mother always said If you can't say anything nice don't say anything
>>at all.
>
>And when you see your mother...can you tell her....
>SATAN..SATAN..SATAN!
                Yeah!  Tell 'Em Steve!
>Couldnt resist it!
>:)
>
>Steve
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From: [e-mail] (Jon Green)
Subject: Re: lyrics and Chime
Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:16:55 +0000

At 3:21 pm 3/10/96, Aimee C. Merritt wrote:

>I would have to say that I prefer Orbital to use snippets of samples or
>none at all. I think the vocal versions of The Box and Belfast/Wasted
>on the Volume series are very sub-par.

I'd agree with you on Belfast, I'm also not so keen on the music on the
vocal version. Belfast/Wasted minus Grant Fulton still wouldn't be as
beautiful as the original Belfast. However I love The Box vocal version, I
think it's the way Grant and Alison's voices come together so well that
does the trick.

>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals?

I guess that's Ray Keith's Mutation, from Mutations (and also on an old
FFRR compilation 'Only for the headstrong'). I think this mix is great,
it's more ravey than the original, and I love the bass and the breakbeat.
The vocals don't particularly add anything, they're just a part of the old
"we need a loop of some woman singing something a bit inane" mentality that
went around circa '91/'92. To my mind it simply does the job better than
the original (just looking at it as a rave tune). If you want something
deeper, and more 'typical' Orbital (is there any such thing?), then Chime
Crime is the one.

And while I'm at it, can anyone tell me why I suddenly stopped recieving
messages a week or so ago? I assumed I'd been unsubscribed for some reason
(it seemed to coincide with the first anniversay of my joining the list),
so I resubscribed and it's fine now. Just wondering what happened...

"no witty quote"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells?
Date: 04 Oct 1996 08:54:17 -0400

Hi ppl.

Steve wrote:

>It has Jungle beats...but P.E.T.R.O.L does not have that crappy deep
>thuding bass that Jungle insists on having. But Are We Here ? does
>occasionally (very!).
>Paul Mison....See P.E.T.R.O.L = bits of Jungle (Review - In Sides - Loopz
>Issue 1) <grin>

Yeah, I think I'd accepted that :O) P.E.T.R.O.L. is out on another
compilation, Wipeout 2097, as has been mentioned before (about OD2-60, I
think), and The Edge (uk 'cutting-edge' games review magazine) and they
reckon that putting Petrol [can't be bothered any more :O) ] on is pretty
lazy. (The album version is only 5-30 long- that's shorter than In Sides
isn't it?)

Does anyone else find Petrol sticks out on IS? It's a great track, but it's
not like most of the other stuff on the album. Anyone else think that or is
it just me?

Oh yes,  Jon Green wrote, amongst other stuff, about Chime vocals:

>I guess that's Ray Keith's Mutation, from Mutations (and also on an old
>FFRR compilation 'Only for the headstrong'). I think this mix is great,
>it's more ravey than the original, and I love the bass and the breakbeat.
>The vocals don't particularly add anything, they're just a part of the old
>"we need a loop of some woman singing something a bit inane" mentality that
>went around circa '91/'92.

I *hated* the Ray Keith mix when I first heard it, and the vocals still piss
me off. Mind you, it could be called the original Orbital/jungle crossover-
and I now think the rest of the mix is sort of OK. (I've never been raving to
it, so I'll take your word for it being better in that context).

Quick web plugs: The logo (see Tuesday) has been taken off, but will reappear
as a jpg at some point in the Stopped Clock archive. The UK/US discographies
[including the title of the last track on the UK Green album which is (I
Think It's Disgusting) ], and a links page including Orbital live via Real
Audio, are already on Stopped Clock, an unofficial Orbital page, at
http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital/

Thanks for your time :O)

Paul Mison      'money is a sign of poverty-- iain m banks

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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Choice not Chime
Date: 04 Oct 1996 06:50:35 -0700

Aimee:
>I would have to say that I prefer Orbital to use snippets of samples or
>none at all. I think the vocal versions of The Box and Belfast/Wasted
>on the Volume series are very sub-par. Just my two cents..
>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals?

Sorry!  I meant "Choice".  Thanks for pointing out my blatant error.

--Anne


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: ORBITAL I-still confused...
Date: 03 Oct 1996 23:44:44 -0700

> BUT, big butt, my ORBITAL I has the following songs:
>
> 1)The Moebius (7.01)
> 2)Speed Freak (7.17)
> 3)Oolaa (6.15)
> 4)Desert Storm (12.06)
> 5)Fahrenheit 303 (8.26)
> 6)Steel Cube Idolatry (6.24)
> 7)High Rise (8.23)
> 8)Chime Live (5.56)
> 9)Midnight Live (6.53)
> 10)Belfast* (8.06)
>
> ?11?)some unmentioned song (.35)

your song order is NOT completely wacko!!! you have a copy of the REAL
orbital 1, the UK version!!!
the version with SATAN etc on it is the US version!
you have no problem whatsoever!!!

Toddy.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 03 Oct 1996 23:50:54 -0700

for fuck's sake, just shut it, all of you. Let's start talking about
Orbital.

OK, where did "(I think it's disgusting)" come from, why did they stick
it on the album?

>
> I stated:
> >>..the lyrics [snip] are just as much a part of a track as the music.
>
> Anthony offered to enlighten us with the following bit of brilliance:
>
> >This is offensive.  It's an insult to Orbital's music and the time and
> >effort the brothers put into their tracks.  Need you be reminded that the
> >greatest music in all the world (classical music) has no lyrics? There goes
> >that argument, Anne.
>
> I retort:
>
> Anthony:  Ever heard of some dude by the name of Beethoven?  He wrote like
> a *gob* of music.  Maybe you should tune in the his 9th symphony.  He wrote
> it when he was completely deaf.  4th movement would be good to start with.
> If you play it on even a poor system, you can hear (oh my god!) lyrics!
> Wouldn't you define this one piece of music as classical and hence one of
> the greatest pieces of music in all the world?  Oh, or how about Bach or
> Mozart?  They ring a bell as classical composers?  They wrote plenty of
> tunes *with* lyrics.
>
> There goes your argument, Anthony.
>
> Also, regarding Orbital, I suppose they put lyrics in their music just to
> annoy the hell out of you!  Guess you skip right over things like "Chime",
> "Satan", "Wish I had Duck Feet", "The Box" (4th movement--suppose they took
> a cue from Beethoven?), "Out There Somewhere?", "Dwr Budr", "Sad But New",
> "Philosophy By Numbers", "Are We Here"...well I think you get the idea.
>
> I guess this means Orbital insults their own music according to your standards.
>
> [snip]
>
> >4. Next time you want to give me hell, do so in private. Nobody here gives
> >a shit about your non-Orbital-related whinings. I'm replying publicly since
> >the charges were delivered publicly.
>
> I wasn't the one who wasted everyone's bandwidth with you whining about
> Digger living here in America.  You said, "Digger lives in America?  Oh my
> god!"  Boy!  That was just chock-full of Orbital related information,
> Anthony.  Why didn't you reply privately to him or better yet call him on
> the phone, since he only lives 6 hours from you.
>
> As for people here giving a shit about me and my non-Orbital-related
> whinings, I've stayed on topic.  You were the one who strayed by posting
> your non-Orbital-related whining.
>
> I'm replying publicly, since your alligations demand that I do so.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells?
Date: 04 Oct 1996 15:45:12 BST


>I *hated* the Ray Keith mix when I first heard it, and the vocals still
>piss me off.

Its pretty crap.

>Quick web plugs: The logo (see Tuesday) has been taken off,

I grabbed it m8...thanks for sticking it up there...

> and a links page including Orbital live via Real
>Audio, are already on Stopped Clock, an unofficial Orbital page, at
>http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital/

Have u linked mine yet ? I should really check but im on the work
connection and its sooooooo slllloooowwww.

Cheers

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 04 Oct 1996 15:51:17 BST


> for fuck's sake, just shut it, all of you. Let's start talking about
>Orbital.

Ahem....language! ;)

>OK, where did "(I think it's disgusting)" come from, why did they stick
>it on the album?

It was the record companies idea to cash in, for a change! (sarcy).
Its just another extra track (only 30 odd seconds long). For collectors
only. Ie dont go a buy this , just for that track....you will be hiting
yourself.

Steve
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From: Throat Dibbler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 04 Oct 1996 11:07:33 -0400 (EDT)

On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Aimee C. Merritt wrote:

> By the way, since when does Chime have vocals?

    Well, I know of at least one mix that has vocals. It's the 'Ray
Keith Mutation'. It's on the 'Only for the Headstrong' compilation, and, I
would assume, 'Mutations'...


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: michael george <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells?
Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:13:35 -0700


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>Does anyone else find Petrol sticks out on IS? It's a great track, but =
it's
>not like most of the other stuff on the album. Anyone else think that =
or is
>it just me?

i do like the whole album but i also think petrol is the strongest track =
(in my humble opinion)
i do like plenty of "tight" bass and petrol delivers.and yes the album =
is very diverse i'd have to say it's my fave next to the brown album.
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From: [e-mail] (John Shore - SunSoft - Marketing Temp)
Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells?
Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:27:46 +0100

I have to differ in opinion, PETROL is the one track from the album which I dislike an it doesn't fit in with the rest of the album


John





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{}  From: michael george <[e-mail]>
{}  To: "'[e-mail]'" <[e-mail]>
{}  Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells?
{}  Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:13:35 -0700
{}  Mime-Version: 1.0
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{}  paul mison wrote...
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{}  >Does anyone else find Petrol sticks out on IS? It's a great track, but it's
{}  >not like most of the other stuff on the album. Anyone else think that or is
{}  >it just me?
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From: michael george <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells?
Date: 04 Oct 1996 12:58:35 -0700


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>I have to differ in opinion, PETROL is the one track from the album which I dislike an it doesn't fit in >with the rest of the album


maybe because it's so different from the rest of the album it's a (positive) standout

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From: Wesley Eccleston <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:ORBITAL I-still confused...
Date: 04 Oct 1996 10:38:30 -0800 (PST)



On Fri, 4 Oct 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> >I understand that ORBITAL I should have the following tunes:
>
> It does if you have the American version (came out a year l8r than the
> original).
>
> >BUT, big butt, my ORBITAL I has the following songs:
>
> Which is the original UK release....this is the yellow album i love!
>
>
> >?11?)some unmentioned song (.35)
>
> I think this is disgusting....or....Aint that disgusting (not confirmed as
> yet...even Paul couldnt remember of his head! ;)    ).
>
>
> >There is obviously a dicrepency.  My version lacks SATAN, which I long to
> >hear, and also CHOICE.
>
> Get the EPs....or wait for the live CD/12.
>
> >  In their place, I have STEEL CUBE IDOLATRY and HIGH RISE.
>
> I love High Rise....
>
>
> > and what's with the LIVE at the end of CHIME and MIDNIGHT?
>
> It means that it is LIVE....not a studio recording.
> You cannot get these tracks anywhere else....so njoi them!
>
> You have the Original UK release....the first release of the CD.
> Keep it!
> Love it!
> Cheerish it!
>
> Play it!

THANKS, I appreciate it now more than ever.- ye haw, wesleyeccleston.

> Steve
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: re:Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:07:25 -0500

>>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals?
>
Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well.

Besides, calling a reverse sample loop like "Times Fly"    "lyrics" is a
falsehood.  Those lyrics are used for their musical effect, not to get a
message across.


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: RE: Orbital/Jungle in Tunbridge Wells?
Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:10:19 -0500

>>Does anyone else find Petrol sticks out on IS? It's a great track, but it's
>>not like most of the other stuff on the album. Anyone else think that or is
>>it just me?

Yeah I think it sticks out like a sore thumb.  One of the first tracks on
In Sides I really liked and it's also the first track I started to tire of.


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From: Toddy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Vox.
Date: 04 Oct 1996 23:41:25 -0700

Anthony Agee wrote:
>
> >>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals?
> >
> Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well.

Out There Somewhere? has got vocals, but only in the first passage (I
think?)

I don't see the vocals in Orbital's music as vocals or lyrics, I see them
using the female voice just like any other instrument, 'cos it sounds
good, the only Orbital tunes I know that has singing of actual lyrics are
Belfast/Wasted and The Box.
My mate thought that Orbital were european 'cos he couldn't make out the
words to Are We Here? so assumed they were in a foreign language (he
acidentally introduced me to Orbital by playing Are We Here? on a dukebox
- it was the only Orbital tune he knew!) It was me who told him that
there are no lyrics.

Choice, LC1 and I Wish I Had Duck Feet I don't consider lyrics, Choice
and LC1 is a narrative, I Wish... is a series of samples - they have not
been written for the tune itself, though have been selected because of
their subject.

BTW I changed the subject title to put that nasty argument behind us.

Toddy.



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From: Toddy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 04 Oct 1996 22:51:53 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> > for fuck's sake, just shut it, all of you. Let's start talking about
> >Orbital.
>
> Ahem....language! ;)
>
> >OK, where did "(I think it's disgusting)" come from, why did they stick
> >it on the album?
>
> It was the record companies idea to cash in, for a change! (sarcy).
> Its just another extra track (only 30 odd seconds long). For collectors
> only. Ie dont go a buy this , just for that track....you will be hiting
> yourself.

well I already have all of Orbital's albums so I'm not likely to!!!
It is shite, it ruins the atmosphere from Belfast, just like Input Out on
untitled2, right after a huge wind down from such a breathtaking track
as Halcyon+on+on you get this shitty voice...and it's loud!!! It really
ruins such a peaceful vibe.

Toddy.



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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Vocals on "Out There Somewhere?"
Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:44:57 -0700

>Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well.

"Now remember, it's the last thing I do", 0:50-0:53; "What's, what's,
what's, what's, what's  wrong?", 1:32-1:35; "What's, what's wrong?",
2:15-2:16; female voice singing throughout...; "What's wrong?", 8:47;
"What's wrong?", 9:02.  End Part 1.

>Besides, calling a reverse sample loop like "Times Fly"    "lyrics" is a
>falsehood.  Those lyrics are used for their musical effect, not to get a
>message across.

Lyrics, or the use of the voice, is exactly that--a musical effect.  The
vocal cords are merely another instrument to be played--ask any choir
director.

Also, since when did lyrics _have_ to get a message across?


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From: Jeff Horton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Rebuttal to Input Out
Date: 04 Oct 1996 16:33:28 -0700

I really think that thematically Input-Output translation works with the
whole Time becomes the loop theme.  I do agree with you that it is
sometimes annoying, but artistically I love it.

-Jeff

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From: Simon Bailey <[e-mail]>
Subject: tune titles....
Date: 02 Oct 1996 10:55:17 +0100

I remember reading somewhere (NME or Melody Maker, around the time of
Sniv.) that the idea for the Halcyon title came from the drug of the
same name which P&Ps mother was addicted to.
perhaps i've got it wrong...no offence intended if i have.

Simon

ps. I'm another newbie so hi to y'all!!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[3]: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 04 Oct 1996 20:04:28 -0400

     Ahh, yes the heavenly voice that drifts through when I reach
     cloud nine.


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>>By the way, since when does Chime have vocals?
>
Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well.

Besides, calling a reverse sample loop like "Times Fly"    "lyrics" is a
falsehood.  Those lyrics are used for their musical effect, not to get a
message across.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Rebuttal to offensive lyrics
Date: 05 Oct 1996 00:21:52 -0400

I do agree that out-in is sort of a buzzkill, but it fucks with ya.  Thats
why Orbital is so good.
                                                   DJRavery

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Vocals on "Out There Somewhere?"
Date: 05 Oct 1996 00:23:59 -0400

Anyone know for sure if the clip: "Whats wrong" was taken from Richie
Hawtin's F.U.S.E. Dimension Intrusion?  Im pretty sure that's where its
from..

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: tune titles....
Date: 05 Oct 1996 11:00:16 -0400


That is correct.

There was quite a flame-throwing contest a while back about whether that was
a fit topic for discussion in this forum.  While some people legitimately
were concerned with the Brothers' privacy, my own feeling is that perhaps P&P
had something they wanted to say about the situation.

After all, drugs like Halcion, Valium, and Xanax--which are all
benzodiazepenes--are widely recognized to be viciously addicting with
terrible withdrawal symptoms.  The only thing that is so amazing is that they
are still so widely prescribed for all sorts of things, ranging from mild
anxiety that is the normal emotional response to a stressful situation, to
chronic muscle spasms and other neurological problems.  Many doctors dispense
them like candy and do not monitor patients appropriately.  Not unlike how
laudanum was abused up until early in this century.  And, of course, the
pharmaceutical industry promotes these drugs as a form of psychological
cure-all.

I apologize in advance to those people who may consider this little
dissertation to be unacceptable deviation from the prescribed discussion
topic, rather than an attempt at explanation.

Ron Hodges
http://members.tripod.com/~Ron_Hodges


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From: Toddy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Rebuttal to Input Out
Date: 05 Oct 1996 17:03:47 -0700

Jeff Horton wrote:
>
> I really think that thematically Input-Output translation works with the
> whole Time becomes the loop theme.  I do agree with you that it is
> sometimes annoying, but artistically I love it.

I wouldn't mind it if it was about ten seconds after the end of
Halcyon+on+on, but it doesn't give the tune "time to breathe" if you know
what I mean, it ruins the mood.

Toddy.


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From: [e-mail] (Anne L. Usion)
Subject: "What's wrong?"
Date: 05 Oct 1996 16:56:45 -0800

I'll swear that it's from THX-1138 (George Lucas's film school project that
launched his career) when LUH or possibly THX opens up the medicine cabinet
on one of numerous occasions.  A voice from some overseeing command center
would ask, "What's wrong", "Is everything OK"--that sort of thing.  I'd
check it to be sure, but I can't find a tape of it.

--Anne

>Anyone know for sure if the clip: "Whats wrong" was taken from Richie
>Hawtin's F.U.S.E. Dimension Intrusion?  Im pretty sure that's where its
>from..

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: "What's wrong?"
Date: 05 Oct 1996 19:00:44 -0500

At 04:56 PM 10/5/96 -0800, you wrote:
>I'll swear that it's from THX-1138 (George Lucas's film school project that
>launched his career) when LUH or possibly THX opens up the medicine cabinet
>on one of numerous occasions.  A voice from some overseeing command center
>would ask, "What's wrong", "Is everything OK"--that sort of thing.  I'd
>check it to be sure, but I can't find a tape of it.

I own THX-1138 and will check to verify soon.


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From: Jeff Horton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "What's wrong?"
Date: 05 Oct 1996 17:34:58 -0700

Anne is absolutely correct.  It is from THX-1138.  "What's wrong? Take
two pills...."

This has been used by several artists, including Front 242.

-Jeff

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From: Richard Rowe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Old stuff
Date: 06 Oct 1996 16:09:28 +0100 (BST)

Hi all,

First posting (only just joined up) - so please try to resist the fingers on
the flame button!  Esp if I'm going over old ground...

Going back to the marvellous Albert Hall gig, what was track three they
played?  It's been bugging me ever since; although I didn't own Orbital1 at
the time, I don't think it was on that (apologies if wrong).  As I recall
they opened with "Out There Somewhere", then "Lush", then the my mystery
loudish (ala Satan) track.

Also, what's in the pipeline?  Further single from the album?  Or, (he says
in hushed hallowed tones) a <gasp> live album?

Thanks all,
Rich


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From: [e-mail] (Al Arzaga)
Subject: Re: Old stuff
Date: 06 Oct 1996 13:52:04 -0500


>Going back to the marvellous Albert Hall gig, what was track three they
>played?

Don't remember the url, but check the official Orbital page...
They have a Real Audio link of the Albert Hall gig in its entirety.

aL
--
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[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Old stuff
Date: 06 Oct 1996 16:20:59 -0500

At 01:52 PM 10/6/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>Going back to the marvellous Albert Hall gig, what was track three they
>>played?
>
>Don't remember the url, but check the official Orbital page...
>They have a Real Audio link of the Albert Hall gig in its entirety.
>

If I remember correctly, the order started so:

James Bond intro music
Out There Somewhere part 1
Out There Somewhere part 2
Choice

So I guess the answer is Choice.


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From: [e-mail] (Mike Carss)
Subject: Re: "What's wrong?"
Date: 06 Oct 1996 18:57:16 -0400

>I'll swear that it's from THX-1138 (George Lucas's film school project that
>launched his career) when LUH or possibly THX opens up the medicine cabinet
>on one of numerous occasions.  A voice from some overseeing command center
>would ask, "What's wrong", "Is everything OK"--that sort of thing.  I'd
>check it to be sure, but I can't find a tape of it.

Yes, as a matter of fact, it is.  I saw the movie less than a month ago
and both "What's Wrong" voices (male and female) are from THX-1138. I took
a double take when I first heard it.  ;)



--
Your friendly neighbourhood MiKE

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From: Mike Gee <[e-mail]>
Subject: new interview online
Date: 07 Oct 1996 19:05:30 +1000

Hi,

We thought you'd like to know there's a new interview with Orbital now
online in the iMAGAZINE at http://www.thei.aust.com

Best Wishes,

the i team

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Time Becomes/Input Out
Date: 07 Oct 1996 12:37:29 BST

I wrote:-
>> It was the record companies idea to cash in, for a change! (sarcy).
>> Its just another extra track (only 30 odd seconds long). For collectors
>> only. Ie dont go a buy this , just for that track....you will be hiting
>> yourself.

Then Toddy wrote:

>well I already have all of Orbital's albums so I'm not likely to!!!

Well qualified.

>It is shite, it ruins the atmosphere from Belfast, just like Input Out on
>untitled2, right after a huge wind down from such a breathtaking track
>as Halcyon+on+on you get this shitty voice...and it's loud!!! It really
>ruins such a peaceful vibe.

Aint that Disgusting was a piss take. Thats all.
As for Input Out and Time Becomes, well i think your missing the point of
the track. It was a clever time sych track where two voices are one and
then go out of time and slowly remerge. Cause we can all do that cant
we...should take minutes ;)

Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents of
music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a ambient
album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they make an
album with different music types on. So you will not have peaceful vibe
running through the whole album.

I understand your point of the track is shite and all that. But its not
there to dance to...its creative and experimental.

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Old stuff
Date: 07 Oct 1996 12:42:23 BST



>First posting (only just joined up) - so please try to resist the fingers
>on the flame button!  Esp if I'm going over old ground...

Hell Richard...welcome to hell.

>Going back to the marvellous Albert Hall gig, what was track three they
>played?

Its was CHOICE. Its on the Midnight EP but can also be found on the US
album release of Orbital 1. Its the one with the "Wake Up" Samples ....JM
would turn in his grave ;)

>Also, what's in the pipeline?  Further single from the album?  Or, (he
>says in hushed hallowed tones) a <gasp> live album?

Im posting a message today about further news i got, but in answer to the
second and third question. No and No.

They are working on a Live Ep which will have Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH.
Cd will be just the tracks and 12 inches will have live noise (crowd) on
there.

Then its back to the studio for the next LP.

More news l8r today...when i get time.

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Drug Halycon
Date: 07 Oct 1996 12:53:22 BST


>Sent by:[e-mail]

>That is correct.

>There was quite a flame-throwing contest a while back about whether that
>was a fit topic for discussion in this forum.  While some people
>legitimately were concerned with the Brothers' privacy, my own feeling is
>that perhaps P&P had something they wanted to say about the situation.

I was part of the flame-throwing contest. My arguement was that a person
decided it would be a good idea to indulge TOO much into WHY P&P used this
name for the track. Halycon track name was used for the drug reference but
the NME interview that followed was liable and allegedly out of context.
There was a lot of regrets about the interview and P&P are not drug
messengers, if u know what i mean.

The way you explained the drug related track in this email was the way it
should have been done by the original person (them months back).

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:tune titles....
Date: 07 Oct 1996 12:55:50 BST


> I remember reading somewhere (NME or Melody Maker, around the time of
>Sniv.) that the idea for the Halcyon title came from the drug of the
>same name which P&Ps mother was addicted to.
>perhaps i've got it wrong...no offence intended if i have.

The NME did the interview and took the explanation out of context. There
is a big story behind it all but not one i would want to indulge. There is
a lot more to it....basically.

>ps. I'm another newbie so hi to y'all!!

Welcome to Hell!

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Vocals on "Out There Somewhere?"
Date: 07 Oct 1996 13:20:20 +0000

>>Besides, calling a reverse sample loop like "Times Fly"    "lyrics" is a
>>falsehood.  Those lyrics are used for their musical effect, not to get a
>>message across.
>
>Lyrics, or the use of the voice, is exactly that--a musical effect.  The
>vocal cords are merely another instrument to be played--ask any choir
>director.
>
>Also, since when did lyrics _have_ to get a message across?
>
To my mind, the distinction between 'vocals' and 'lyrics' is that vocals are
a texture, like another instrument (as usually used in techno/electronic and
other dance music), whereas lyrics are a means of putting a message across.
Example: Choice has lyric (messaage), but Halcyon has vocals(texture),
though I suppose it's a bit difficult to decide whether 'what's wrong' etc
is a lyric (it's not much of a message), or a texture (it doesn't really
work as a texture)

Or is it just me?

And 'what's wrong' is from Dimension Intrusion, yet another bloody good
album (Theychx is probably my favourite, or maybe FU, or Substance abuse, or
Dimension Intrusion, or Nite Drive.......)

Jon Green: [e-mail]
"no witty quote"


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From: [e-mail] (John Shore - SunSoft - Marketing Temp)
Subject: advice
Date: 07 Oct 1996 13:24:17 +0100


Can anyone advise me?

I have just  seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are four or five tunes mixed by orbital are they anygood?


John

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Old stuff
Date: 07 Oct 1996 06:12:58 -0700

On 10/07/96 12:42:23 you wrote:
>They are working on a Live Ep which will have Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH.
>Cd will be just the tracks and 12 inches will have live noise (crowd) on
>there.
>
>Then its back to the studio for the next LP.
>
>More news l8r today...when i get time.
>
>Steve

hey steve,are the boys thinking of doing an enhanced cd?  any thoughts on a laser disc ?

mick



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From: Sanjay Arora <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Old stuff
Date: 07 Oct 1996 09:42:54 -0400


>hey steve,are the boys thinking of doing an enhanced cd?  any thoughts
>on a laser disc ?
>

THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE!!!
>
>

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: advice
Date: 07 Oct 1996 14:43:16 GMT


> Can anyone advise me?
>
> I have just  seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are four or five tunes mixed by orbital are they anygood?

They aren't actually 'Orbital' remixes - some of their early remixes
were called 'Orbital' remixes, but had nothing to do eith the
Hartnoll's. Save yer money!

Andy Jackson
"There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More."
(S.P. Morrissey)

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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: advice
Date: 07 Oct 1996 09:24 EDT

>Can anyone advise me?
>
>I have just  seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are four or five tunes
mixed by orbital are they anygood?
They aren't remixes by Orbital.  The ORB just use the name 'Orbital' in some
of their mixes.  I have it--it's pretty good.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Old stuff
Date: 07 Oct 1996 10:10:29 -0400

In a message dated 96-10-06 15:15:27 EDT, you write:

<< Don't remember the url, but check the official Orbital page...
 They have a Real Audio link of the Albert Hall gig in its entirety >>

http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: advice
Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:12:40 +0200

John asked:
>Can anyone advise me?
>I have just  seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are
>four or five tunes mixed by orbital are they anygood?

ORB sometime call their remixes for orbital remixes.
So I don't think these tracks are made by Orbital.

Sigbjorn

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:advice
Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:31:03 BST

They are NOT Orbital mixes. They are mixed by the ORB.

Steve
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----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail] (John Shore - SunSoft - Marketing Temp)

Can anyone advise me?

I have just  seen a 2 cd box of ORB remixes their are four or five tunes
mixed by orbital are they anygood?


John

=====================================================================

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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Time Becomes/Input Out
Date: 07 Oct 1996 08:39:23 -0700 (PDT)

> Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents of
> music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a ambient
> album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they make an
> album with different music types on. So you will not have peaceful vibe
> running through the whole album.

I think there is a peaceful vibe running through InSides.  When I play
the album, it seems that their is just one HUGE song that rolls on...

ajay

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From: Richard Rowe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Old stuff
Date: 07 Oct 1996 22:02:58 +0100 (BST)

At 10:10 07/10/96 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 96-10-06 15:15:27 EDT, you write:
>
><< Don't remember the url, but check the official Orbital page...
> They have a Real Audio link of the Albert Hall gig in its entirety >>
>
>http://www.rise.co.uk/orbital
>
Thanks - I'll check it out.  Though I somewhat reckon that a bit of the
atmosphere will be lost on a 14.4K modem!

Cheers
Rich


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: RE: Old stuff
Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:05:51 -0500

At 09:42 AM 10/7/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>hey steve,are the boys thinking of doing an enhanced cd?  any thoughts
>>on a laser disc ?
>>
>
>THAT WOULD BE INCREDIBLE!!!

No kidding!! Imagine having a laserdisc of one of Orbital's best shows.
Digital image and digital music, just like having a live CD.  It indeed
would be incredible. I'd pay $80 or more for that bugger.


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From: Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
Subject: Live Shows
Date: 07 Oct 1996 16:45:58 -0500

i dont know if anyone can answer this question or not, but is orbital
planning on coming through Texas any time in the near (or far) future?
i'd drive almost anywhere in the state to seem them.. i havent heard of
them coming out this way ever.. any help would be appreciated.. thanx

        aaron

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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Time Becomes/Input Out
Date: 07 Oct 1996 08:39:23 -0700 (PDT)

> Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents of
> music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a ambient
> album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they make an
> album with different music types on. So you will not have peaceful vibe
> running through the whole album.

I think there is a peaceful vibe running through InSides.  When I play
the album, it seems that their is just one HUGE song that rolls on...

ajay

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From: Throat Dibbler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Vocals on "Out There Somewhere?"
Date: 08 Oct 1996 00:57:17 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Anne L. Usion wrote:

> >Please refresh my memory as to when "Out There Somewhere" has vocals as well.
>
> "Now remember, it's the last thing I do", 0:50-0:53; "What's, what's,
> what's, what's, what's  wrong?", 1:32-1:35; "What's, what's wrong?",
> 2:15-2:16; female voice singing throughout...; "What's wrong?", 8:47;
> "What's wrong?", 9:02.  End Part 1.
>
[snip]

    Well, if we're going to be technical, I think it's "I'll remember
if it's the last thing I do..."


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Time Becomes/Input Out
Date: 08 Oct 1996 11:39:25 BST


>I think there is a peaceful vibe running through InSides.  When I play
>the album, it seems that their is just one HUGE song that rolls on...

I think P.E.T.R.O.L takes the peace away a bit...esp the acid end.
The majority of In Sides has a nice vibe. Most played CD in my car (since
April).

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Live Shows
Date: 08 Oct 1996 11:40:13 BST

One day they might !
No plans as yet!

Steve
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Sent by:Aaron Murray <[e-mail]>
 i dont know if anyone can answer this question or not, but is orbital
planning on coming through Texas any time in the near (or far) future?
i'd drive almost anywhere in the state to seem them.. i havent heard of
them coming out this way ever.. any help would be appreciated.. thanx

        aaron

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Old stuff
Date: 08 Oct 1996 11:45:15 BST

LOOPZ wrote :-

>>They are working on a Live Ep which will have Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH.
>>Cd will be just the tracks and 12 inches will have live noise (crowd)
>>on there.

Rich wrote :-

>That's one to look forward to - Satan was the mindblower of the concert.
>Impact would be nice; and I look forward to hearing a good version of
>TGWSIHH; I felt the version at the RAH suffered from sound problems and
>didn't come across well.

They did want to put Impact on there but the English charts state that a
single release must be below a certain length (total playing time of all
tracks). With Impact it blew it out. Paul said that he wanted Impact on
there and was well pissed off they couldnt work round the rule.

Oh Well....you can get Impact live at Glastonbury on quite a few cds and a
free tape (from Select magazine).

>>Then its back to the studio for the next LP.

>Better not hold my breath though, eh?  :)

Why ?
Dont think it will take as long as In Sides....i hope!

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: 2 questions
Date: 08 Oct 1996 21:59:35 +0400

1. Any russians in here? If there are some,please , find me. My e-mail
is [e-mail]
2. Are brothers going visit Moscow in their life. Tell me somebody, is
that possible.

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From: Simon Bailey <[e-mail]>
Subject: test 1
Date: 08 Oct 1996 18:17:34 +0100

sorry to waste space y'all
just testing

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From: Richard Rowe <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Old stuff
Date: 08 Oct 1996 20:11:36 +0100 (BST)

At 11:45 08/10/96 BST, you wrote:
>LOOPZ wrote :-
>
>>>They are working on a Live Ep which will have Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH.
>>>Cd will be just the tracks and 12 inches will have live noise (crowd)
>>>on there.
>
>Rich wrote :-
>
>>That's one to look forward to - Satan was the mindblower of the concert.
>>Impact would be nice; and I look forward to hearing a good version of
>>TGWSIHH; I felt the version at the RAH suffered from sound problems and
>>didn't come across well.
>
>They did want to put Impact on there but the English charts state that a
>single release must be below a certain length (total playing time of all
>tracks). With Impact it blew it out. Paul said that he wanted Impact on
>there and was well pissed off they couldnt work round the rule.

Shurely shome mistake?  Times Fly being the case in point - that was
specifically over 25 minutes (thus ruling it out of the charts as it wasn't
just comprised of remixes).  I remember reading an interview at the time
saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work
track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it eventually
works out at.

More a case of record company intervention maybe?

>Oh Well....you can get Impact live at Glastonbury on quite a few cds and a
>free tape (from Select magazine).
>
Yeah - I just hate tapes dammit!

Cheers
Rich


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: ╔▌╒ ╥╒╙╙╦╔╚
Date: 08 Oct 1996 23:12:51 +0400

≥╒╙╙╦╔┼. ∩╘┌╧╫╔╘┼╙╪.
[e-mail]

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From: Simon Bailey <[e-mail]>
Subject: test 2
Date: 08 Oct 1996 18:18:25 +0100

sorry to waste space
this is just a test
simon

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From: Wesley Eccleston <[e-mail]>
Subject: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 13:57:27 -0800 (PST)


This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

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From: "Aimee C. Merritt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 14:31:44 -0400 (EDT)

Born in Los Angeles; grew up in Berkeley, California; came back to Los
Angeles for college and haven't gotten around to leaving yet although I
desperately want to because I hate it here (although Orbital have
played here three times since 1992).

On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 13:57:27 -0800 (PST) Wesley Eccleston
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.





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From: [e-mail] (Al Arzaga)
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 17:11:48 -0500


Born in Manila, Philippines.
Raised in a remote island in the Philippines before
immigrating to the US.  Then we promptly (less than a year) moved out.  And
my pre-college years were subsequently lived out in Kobe, Japan, and
Dusseldorf, (West) Germany.  Came back to the US for college in Peoria,
Illinois.
And now, I'm in Schaumburg, IL, a suburb of Chicago.

I discovered Orbital back in college.  The Brown album to be exact.
It changed my whole attitude towards electronic/dance/techno music...


No, I'm not an army brat.
:)



>This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
>interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
>town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
>country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
>fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

aL
--
Alden Arzaga
[e-mail]
http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
"For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them."
                                                        --Aristotle



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 18:57:41 -0400

     My name is Avery, I reside in the city of Detroit Michigan,
     which is in U.S.  I subscribed about three weeks ago, and Im
     also logged on as [e-mail]  (so I have access at work
     and at home.)
                    DJRavery


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This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

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From: Liebs <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 17:44:51 EDT

At 01:57 PM 10/8/96 -0800, you wrote:
>
>This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
>interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
>town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
>country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
>fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
>
I'm from stamford, ct but am attending union college in schenectady, ny. saw
orbital in new york city and had a blast. really want to see the chemical
brothers. do you guys like them a lot as well?
-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/
-Jeff Lieberman
[e-mail]

"Time is not a movement, a flowing, a wind then,
but it is, rather, a kind of climate, in which
things are, and when a thing happens it begins
to live and keeps on living and stands solid
in Time like a tree that you can walk around."
           -Robert Penn Warren
/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-


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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT)

> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

Fontana, CA USA
^^^^^ -> About 50 Miles East of LA. I was at the Organic Show

later,

ajay

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From: Alfonso Espitia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries
Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:04:50 -0400

My name is Alfonso.  As you can tell from my e-mail address I love these
guys a lot.  I'm currently living in Hubert, N. Carolina.  Hope this
answers your question.  Later!
--
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*       [e-mail]          *
* http://locals.onslowonline.net/~orbital *
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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 16:10:27 -0700 (PDT)

> orbital in new york city and had a blast. really want to see the chemical
> brothers. do you guys like them a lot as well?

I do, The chemical Brothers will be in LA on November 21 and I love the
new tune, "Setting Sun".

later,

ajay

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From: [e-mail] (Ammie Moore)
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 16:00:59 -0700

My name is Ammie and I'm in San Francisco. Originally from Washington D.C.
I just bacame an Orbital
fan and haven't had the luxury of seeing them perform. I did however get to
see the Chemical brothers and they threw an amazing show about three months
ago.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 19:36:34 -0400

In a message dated 96-10-08 17:04:13 EDT, you write:

<< This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
 interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
 town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
 country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
 fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
  >>

I'm up in scenic Montgomery Village Maryland, a ways northwest of DC.  I'm
originally from western Massachusetts.  Saw Orbital this summer at Irving
Plaza in NYC.  Awesome!

Ron Hodges

http://members.tripod.com/~Ron_Hodges



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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 08 Oct 1996 22:45:09 -0500

I was born and raised in Fairfax, Virginia. 15 minutes outside of D.C.
Seen Orbital once at the 9:30 club, been listening for a year and a
half.

Mike
[e-mail]
http://pagess.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm

Wesley Eccleston wrote:
>
> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

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From: [e-mail] (Alex Bettarini)
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:04:18 +0900

w_eccleston>> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  Fo
r general
w_eccleston>> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I
reside in a
w_eccleston>> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in
the
w_eccleston>> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of or
bital
w_eccleston>> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

Born in Italy (26years)
Naturalized Australian (12years)
Living in Japan (1year, today I'm39)

Proud owner of "In Sides" and the Brown album.


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From: Throat Dibbler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 02:25:48 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Wesley Eccleston wrote:

>
> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

    Born & raised in Asheville, North Carolina, now residing in CHapel
Hill, NC.


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Throat Dibbler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries
Date: 09 Oct 1996 02:29:18 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Alfonso Espitia wrote:

> My name is Alfonso.  As you can tell from my e-mail address I love these
> guys a lot.  I'm currently living in Hubert, N. Carolina.  Hope this
> answers your question.  Later!

    Where is Hubert? I've lived in NC my whole life and am not
familiar with it..

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: theSUN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 00:53:19 -0700 (PDT)

>This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
>interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
>town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
>country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
>fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

I'm just down the road from you in Kelowna, BC!
peace,                 \\|||||//
theSUN                 / @   @ \
                       \   )   /
                        \  o  /
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_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|___
__|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|


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From: Jason Broome <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 08:58:46 +0100

><[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For
> general
> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside
> in a town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.


Born Redditch in Worcestershire England and now a resident in Oxford
England.

--
Jason Broome
Software Engineer

Life is sweet and so is the tea.
Keep it clean and keep it green!

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 08:59:41 GMT

>
> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

I am from Manchester, England, now residing in Dundee, Scotland. Been
an Orbital fan since 'Mutations' got a play on Radio 1 - which seems
ages ago! Seen Orbital 3 times.

Andy Jackson
"There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More."


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:2 questions
Date: 09 Oct 1996 11:22:05 BST

Its reaching all the world this list...thats good!
1. Dont know any Russians here
2. Its possible but not planned. How big are they in Russia ?

Steve
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----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail]
 1. Any russians in here? If there are some,please , find me. My e-mail
is [e-mail]
2. Are brothers going visit Moscow in their life. Tell me somebody, is
that possible.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Old stuff
Date: 09 Oct 1996 11:35:43 BST

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:35:00 -0400


Oh how cute, I love these self introductions.  Let's see.  I was born in Japan
but grew up in east coast U.S., and just recently came back to Japan to work.  I
don't know how big an Orbital fan base is here in Kobe, Japan, but I was pleased
to see all the Orbital albums plus a few singles in stock at a nearby CD store.

Later,
Satoko
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  [e-mail] at IE_StPeteB1



This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
<Zero length text item>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: halycon-email and on and on and cool and cool and cool a
Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:05:29 BST

Jonathon, (cross posted this to the list....its a good topic)

>> I know....i dead set against commercial music...it can kill a group
>>off. Thats probably why im worried for Orbital


>but what is the fear?
>overegos? struggles into pressure? suicide? money?

P&P wouldnt get big egos.
P&P would get under a lot of pressure...they suffer already.
P&P wouldnt let it get to em in the suicide way...they would quit it all
if it got that bad.
P&P get enough money already ;)

>i guess you mean psycologically the group will lose its original touch
>that made r.e.m. turn into a popbomb right?

R.E.M. were always destined for that patch. Whereas Orbital are a group
that the charts have gone for. Rem went to the charts. Get what i mean ?

>too popular and the band goes nuts?

They wont go mad....they wont let themselves get to POPular nether...i
think.

>doesnt success come too? dont people want success? or does success and
>fortune interfere with their lives and destroy their commitment to
>music?

They have success already...Plenty...enough!
Too much sucsess can put pressure on a band to do things that they would
never have believed in doing. Examples....SHAMEN...WTF happened to them
last year. (Will Sinnott would be going mad if he were alive). Watch
Underworld now...they have became very popular due to
"Trainspotting"...will they eat the success or hide away a bit.

>orbital has a mission, remmember that.

The mission is ?
I tell you what Orbital are in for and its only this.....
Soundtracks...thats all.

Steve
  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
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             Price
CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ
DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:10:05 BST

I woke up to 2 millions messages with the Subject COUNTRIES :)))

Heres my effort....some of u might already know this.

Living in North West Midlands in the second city of England called
BIRMINGHAM. Everyone has silly accents, ask any other Uk resident about
Brummies.

Say Orbital a few times (quite a), first time at the infamous "Oscillate"
warm up gig in Birmingham (lots of boots going around of it).

Run a zine to do with Orbital and you all know the rest.

Steve
  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
  |     |   | |   | |   |   /
  |     |   | |   | ___/   /
 _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
             Price
CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ
DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Info and LOOPZ Interview
Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:11:54 BST

There might be an oppurtunity for a question and answer session with Paul
from Orbital.
Basically i due to go to London next week (Wed to Fri), again for a work
course but i will naturally have some free time to meet up with Paul (if
he is around that week).

The idea is anyone on the list who wishes to submit a question or
questions then please read on:-

Have a good think first....

Create a question that you have always wanted to ask
Make it original ... and interesting.
A talkative subject.

Write no more than 3 questions...and send them to me PRIVATLY
with the word QUESTIONS in the Subject header. That will make my life
easier.

Any questions sent to the mailing list will be totally ignored (apart
from a little flame and maybe a referral to my cats pencil-sharpener!).

As i said...i might be able to meet him , i might not. But this is an
ideal oppurtunity for you to ask what you want to ask.

I look forward to the 2 millions replies ;)




Steve
  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
  |     |   | |   | |   |   /
  |     |   | |   | ___/   /
 _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
             Price
CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ
DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:countries
Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:38:50 +0000

On Tue, 08 Oct 1996 13:57:27 -0800 (PST) Wesley Eccleston
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

Hi. I=B4m Monica and i=B4m afraid i=B4m the only member in the list writing =
from
Spain. I was born in Madrid where (fortunately?) i still live. Seen Orbital
more than a year ago in Barcelona (Sonar 95) for the first and
(unfortunately) last time now. However i hope i=B4ll see them soon as they=
=B4ve
come two times since then. The brothers, Autechre, Biosphere, Ken Ishii,
Lassigue B, PWOG, K. Larkin, Bandulu, Underworld, Tricky, Massive Attack,
Bjork...have also visited us so i won=B4t complain. Bye

MONIK



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From: [e-mail] (Al Arzaga)
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 06:44:28 -0500

>Oh how cute, I love these self introductions.  Let's see.  I was born in Japan
>but grew up in east coast U.S., and just recently came back to Japan to
>work.  I
>don't know how big an Orbital fan base is here in Kobe, Japan, but I was
>pleased
>to see all the Orbital albums plus a few singles in stock at a nearby CD store.
>
>Later,
>Satoko

Where in Kobe is this?
Not that I'd probably know...  Haven't
lived there in 6 and some years....

My favorite hangout, though, for great imported music available
at "import price" (which was often cheaper than the domestic releases)
was this place called Mr. Jackets in Sannomiya.

Don't know if it's still there after the earthquake...



aL
--
Alden Arzaga
[e-mail]
http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
"For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them."
                                                        --Aristotle



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From: [e-mail] (Al Arzaga)
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 06:53:02 -0500


>Where in Kobe is this?


Sorry, guys for the non-orbital material.
This was supposed to be a privately-sent reply...
But I couldn't interrupt the transfer in time when I noticed the mistake.


aL
--
Alden Arzaga
[e-mail]
http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
"For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them."
                                                        --Aristotle



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:50:52 +0000

At 13:57 08/10/96 -0800, Wesley Eccleston wrote:
>
>where are all you orbital subscribers from?

Originally born in Boston, England. Discovered Orbital with Chime, been
hooked on techno/dance (Orbital especially) ever since. Got all four albums,
and several singles. fave Orbital tracks: Belfast, Farenheit, Choice, Lush
(3.1/2; Underworld, PWOG mixes), Impact USA, Halcyon(original), Are We Here,
Attached, The Box(all versions), TGWTSIHS, Out there somewhere, and their
mix of Abfahrt's 'Come into my life'. Of course, all their other stuff is
great too, but it would be silly to name them all now wouldn't it? :-) In
Sides is presently my fave album.
Currently studying in London (though missed the Albert Hall gig 'cos of
exams). Did catch Orbital at Norwich Oct '94 (Sniv tour) and Leeds this
Easter. Blown away both times, especially by the Belinda version of Halcyon.

Jon

Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:CD lengths
Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:02:34 +0000

At 20:11 08/10/96 +0100, Richard Rowe wrote:
>Shurely shome mistake?  Times Fly being the case in point - that was
>specifically over 25 minutes (thus ruling it out of the charts as it wasn't
>just comprised of remixes).  I remember reading an interview at the time
>saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work
>track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it eventually
>works out at.

I understood the limit was 40 mins, I didn't know about some restriction to
do with remixes. I gathered that Times Fly was ineligible because of the
2x12" and 2x7" formats.

>More a case of record company intervention maybe?

Haven't Orbital always prided themselves on doing what they want, not what
the label wants? Maybe they just want a bit of chart action to reward us
loyal fans :-)

>>Oh Well....you can get Impact live at Glastonbury on quite a few cds and a
>>free tape (from Select magazine).

And the other tracks are pretty good, too, esp the Jonny L one. I have to
say I prefer the USA version to that live mix though.
Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Re: halycon-email and on and on and cool and cool and cool a
Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:11:14 +0000

At 12:05 09/10/96 BST, [e-mail] wrote:

>They wont go mad....they wont let themselves get to POPular nether...i
>think.

Popular isn't bad, I'd say Orbital arealready popular, judging by this list.
Pop IS bad, however. I don't think Orbital will go commercial, like you
said, Steve, commercial has gone Orbital, more like.

>Watch
>Underworld now...they have became very popular due to
>"Trainspotting"...will they eat the success or hide away a bit.

judging by the interviews, Underworld will be OK, th remixes on the Born
Slippy re-issue weren't commercial, or second rate at all, and they've
stated that they're a bit pissed off at all the hype surrounding what was
originally a B-side, and was never as good as the A-side in the first place.

Anyway, I'd better not go on about Underworld too much, this is an Orbital
list after all....

Jon
Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: Orbital Oscillate gig
Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:31:15 +0000

>
> Say Orbital a few times (quite a), first time at the infamous "Oscillate"
> warm up gig in Birmingham (lots of boots going around of it).

Not the Dance Factory one where the didgeridoo on  'Walk Now' melted the amp's power
cable by any chance?

yan (long term Oscillator)


Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: Sanjay Arora <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 09:08:44 -0400

Atlanta, GA, USA

>----------
>From:     Wesley Eccleston[SMTP:[e-mail]]
>Sent:      October 8, 1996 5:57 PM
>To:     orbital
>Subject:     countries.
>
>
>This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
>
>interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in
>a
>town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
>country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
>fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
>

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From: Gustav Aagesen <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 15:28:47 +0200 (MET DST)


I live in Trondheim, in the middle of Norway,
I think Im a part of a elite here who know of ORBITAL, very few people Ive
talked to has ever heard of them.


Gustav Aagesen
Nordlundvegen 39                         [e-mail]
7080 HEIMDAL                                   72845352

              A bus station is where the bus stops
          A train station is where the train stops
          At home Ive got a workstation..


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From: "Emileigh E. Rohn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 10:05:14 -0400 (EDT)

My name is Emileigh.  I live in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and am a biopsych&
biology major at U of M.  I was raised in metro Detroit.
---I must agree with whoever said Satan was the mindblower of the
concert--it was BY FAR.

[e-mail]

On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Liebs wrote:

> At 01:57 PM 10/8/96 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> >fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
> >
> I'm from stamford, ct but am attending union college in schenectady, ny. saw
> orbital in new york city and had a blast. really want to see the chemical
> brothers. do you guys like them a lot as well?
> -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/
> -Jeff Lieberman
> [e-mail]
>
> "Time is not a movement, a flowing, a wind then,
> but it is, rather, a kind of climate, in which
> things are, and when a thing happens it begins
> to live and keeps on living and stands solid
> in Time like a tree that you can walk around."
>            -Robert Penn Warren
> /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-
>
>


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From: James Bray <[e-mail]>
Subject: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 10:11:58 EDT

I live in the East Village, New York City, 2 blocks away from
Irving Plaza, where Orbital played a fine show a few months ago
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This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.


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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 10:21 EDT

> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

I was born in Coral Gables (Miami) Florida, lived in South Carolina
(Pageland) for awhile, but came back to FL years ago to Daytona Beach and am
currently living in Orlando.  I first heard Orbital on college radio 'Chime'
& 'Satan' and grabbed their 'Orbital I' CD as soon as it hit the stores here
in the US.  Now I feel cheated after hearing how most of you like the UK
version of that CD better.  Do any of you know of a place I can order this
version from (preferrably online)?  Having 'Satan' on there is nice, but I
would like to hear the other songs I'm missing from it, and to hear a
version of 'Speed Freak' that's not adulterated by Moby.
_____________________________________________________

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 07:22:58 -0700

On 10/08/96 13:57:27 you wrote:
>
>
>This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
>interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
>town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
>country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
>fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
>
>

born and raised in norwich city uk,moved to boston mass usa dec'88 and have been here eversince.(olde england to new england)
first came across orbital when i picked up a copy of trance europe express #1,cd 1 track 1 "semi-detached.totaly changed me!!
there is a 192 page booklet that comes with it with 8 pages dedicated to p&p (for those of you unaware of it)i am also into
spacetime continuum/hardfloor/sven vath/underworld but orbital are #1 i have yet to here a track i dis-like which i can't say
for anyother band!!
cheers,mick


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: uk version
Date: 09 Oct 1996 07:45:33 -0700

On 10/09/96    10:21 you wrote:
 'Orbital I' CD as soon as it hit the stores here
>in the US.  Now I feel cheated after hearing how most of you like the UK
>version of that CD better.  Do any of you know of a place I can order this
>version from (preferrably online)?  Having 'Satan' on there is nice, but I
>would like to hear the other songs I'm missing from it, and to hear a
>version of 'Speed Freak' that's not adulterated by Moby.
>_____________________________________________________
>
> _|_ |_ |_  _ _  _|    e-mail:  [e-mail]
>(-|_)|_)| )(-(_|(_|      http://www.iag.net/~ebbhead/
>_____________________________________________________
>
>
>

that goes for me too
mick


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Request for info, lovely people :O)
Date: 09 Oct 1996 12:42:21 -0400

Another request for private postings, so sorry if it ends up clogging the
list up.
One of the faq's here seems to be 'What other bands do you like', so I
thought I'd put it up on the web site. So, send me *privately*:

your name, email address, and whether you want it displayed on the page;

some bands you like/ think other Orbital fans would like;

why you like them/ think other Orbital fans would like them; [optional! but
it would certainly be nice, even if it's just 'they're banging' :O) ]

web site address (preferably unofficial, but official will do; this is
optional too).

and of course anything else you think is relevant.

The more requests the better, and if there's a big response I'll try to put
the page up quicker. Cheers.

Paul Mison ([e-mail])  'money is a sign of poverty'- iain m banks
http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital/                the website in question

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 11:51:44 -0700 (PDT)


On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Al Arzaga wrote:

>
> Born in Manila, Philippines.
> Raised in a remote island in the Philippines before
> immigrating to the US.  Then we promptly (less than a year) moved out.  And
> my pre-college years were subsequently lived out in Kobe, Japan, and
> Dusseldorf, (West) Germany.  Came back to the US for college in Peoria,
> Illinois.
> And now, I'm in Schaumburg, IL, a suburb of Chicago.
>
> I discovered Orbital back in college.  The Brown album to be exact.
> It changed my whole attitude towards electronic/dance/techno music...
>
>
> No, I'm not> :)
>
>
>
> >This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
> >interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
> >town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
> >country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
> >fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
>
> aL
> --
> Alden Arzaga
> [e-mail]
> http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
> "For things we have to learn before we can do them, we learn by doing them."
>                                                         --Aristotle
>




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From: Simon Bailey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 18:04:43 +0100

In message , Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]> writes
>> This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
>> interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
>> town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
>> country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
>> fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.

might as well add my little bit:

simon bailey
currently in cardiff, uk
after so many years in birmingham, uk

only seen orbital once: sniv tour in cardiff way back(!!) in 94. none of
my ijit house mates would come along so i left them to it and had a
fantastic evening!!

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From: theSUN <[e-mail]>
Date: 09 Oct 1996 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT)

>At 20:11 08/10/96 +0100, Richard Rowe wrote:
>>Shurely shome mistake?  Times Fly being the case in point - that was
>>specifically over 25 minutes (thus ruling it out of the charts as it wasn't
>>just comprised of remixes).  I remember reading an interview at the time
>>saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work
>>track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it eventually
>>works out at.
>
>I understood the limit was 40 mins, I didn't know about some restriction to
>do with remixes. I gathered that Times Fly was ineligible because of the
>2x12" and 2x7" formats.

I got this blurb out of Q44:
>>>These days having a single remixed can enable record companies to reap
sales benefits never before imagined. It can prolong a record's chart life
(a scam which has now forced the British Phonographic Industry to adopt a
new policy, which began April 1, 1990, limiting the number of different
versions of a record to five, and categorising any 12-inch single over 25
minutes as an album).<<<

Whether anything has changed since then I don't know. But by this
definition, the 2x12" and 2x7" formats would fit under the limit of five,
but then there are the CDs...I think CD singles are included in the
definition of "versions of a record".


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From: Sproston Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital 'Green' UK mailorder info
Date: 09 Oct 1996 17:11:48 -0400


O.r.b.i.t.a.l.....

For all those asking about getting the UK release of the green
album mailorder (from within the US), I just got it (playing now)
from this place -

http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/index.html

Search for orbital and this is the entry for the UK green

ORBITAL      - CD                   P-TRUCD9 CD   12.97 (uk)

It only cost $19 USD shipped which is less than any imports
stores normally charge that i've seen.  Took about 2 weeks to
get to the east coast.  Sounds good so far but you knew that
already.  L8Her.

Sproston Green
     [e-mail]
          http://www.tiac.net/users/jrobin/


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: Orbital Oscillate gig
Date: 09 Oct 1996 22:43:41 BST



LOOPZ wrote:-

>> Say Orbital a few times (quite a), first time at the infamous
>>"Oscillate" warm up gig in Birmingham (lots of boots going around of
>it).

>Not the Dance Factory one where the didgeridoo on  'Walk Now' melted the
>amp's power cable by any chance?

Yes...the wonderful small Dance Factory.
And it was during the power cut that i spoke my first words to the lads.
It was "Are you gonna play Choice or what!"

>yan (long term Oscillator)

U must like HIA then!

Steve "LOOPZ" Price (tag on holiday)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:CD lengths
Date: 09 Oct 1996 22:49:10 BST


>> I remember reading an interview at the time
>>saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work
>>track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it
>>eventually works out at.

>I understood the limit was 40 mins, I didn't know about some restriction
>to do with remixes. I gathered that Times Fly was ineligible because of
>the 2x12" and 2x7" formats.

40 mins is ok for ONE track. I have the press release for Times Fly which
explains the rules. Ill stick it on here...when i get chance.

>>More a case of record company intervention maybe?

>Haven't Orbital always prided themselves on doing what they want, not
>what the label wants? Maybe they just want a bit of chart action to
>reward us loyal fans :-)

Its a question of "Its needed" . They talked about it for years and
finally they have done it.

>And the other tracks are pretty good, too, esp the Jonny L one. I have to

Is that the one where he calls a record shop for one of his tracks....if
it is ... i like the start.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price. Tag on HOls

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 16:37:59 -0500

Hello, I reside in Overland Park, which is in the state of Kansas in the
United States.  Overland Park is about 15 minutes from Kansas City,
Missouri (if you know where that is).  I'm estimating that this area has
perhaps a dozen (at most) or so Orbital fans but I've yet to meet any. Last
November when I visited the most popular music store here I saw 3 copies of
Green, 3 copies of Brown, and 2 copies of Snivilization.  I went there two
days ago and they had the same exact number of copies...I'm guessing nobody
has bought any.  BTW....it WAS 3 copies of Snivilization but I bought that
3rd one myself about 2 years ago.  I've seen Orbital only once in Los
Angeles but I pray to God they will come stateside (anywhere!) soon.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 18:56:03 -0400

     I also owned the Trance Europe Express, which also got me into
     more Orbial.


_____________________________DJRavery
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Author:  [e-mail] at IE_StPeteB1


On 10/08/96 13:57:27 you wrote:
>
>
>This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
>interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
>town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
>country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
>fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
>
>

born and raised in norwich city uk,moved to boston mass usa dec'88 and have been
here eversince.(olde england to new england)
first came across orbital when i picked up a copy of trance europe express #1,cd
1 track 1 "semi-detached.totaly changed me!!
there is a 192 page booklet that comes with it with 8 pages dedicated to p&p
(for those of you unaware of it)i am also into
spacetime continuum/hardfloor/sven vath/underworld but orbital are #1 i have yet
to here a track i dis-like which i can't say
for anyother band!!
cheers,mick


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From: [e-mail] (Bryan, Anthony L.)
Subject: countries.
Date: 09 Oct 1996 21:51:43 -0400

        Raised in Pompano Beach, FL (just north of Ft. Lauderdale,
southeast) & currently going to college in West Palm Beach, FL...

Anthony


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Jonny L /live performances
Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:51:45 +0000

At 22:49 09/10/96 BST, [e-mail] wrote:
>>And the other tracks are pretty good, too, esp the Jonny L one.
>
>Is that the one where he calls a record shop for one of his tracks....if
>it is ... i like the start.

He's calling directory enquiries, I reckon. On listening again last night, I
reckon The Prodigy's 'We eat rhythm' is ace too, much better than the live
versions I've heard. Is it just me, or does anyone else find the Prodigy's
'rock 'n' roll' live antics a bit tedious? I've never felt that dance music
"needs a more rock 'n' roll vibe".

Sorry if this is felt to be off topic, but I much prefer Orbital's
'performance': just the lights and the projections. It doesn't distract you
from the wonderful music.

Jon
Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Jonny L /live performances
Date: 10 Oct 1996 12:57:01 +0000

> versions I've heard. Is it just me, or does anyone else find the Prodigy's
> 'rock 'n' roll' live antics a bit tedious? I've never felt that dance music
> "needs a more rock 'n' roll vibe".
>
> Sorry if this is felt to be off topic, but I much prefer Orbital's
> 'performance': just the lights and the projections. It doesn't distract you
> from the wonderful music.

Totally with you on this one mate - I've always felt (well since
Glasters '94 at least) that Orbital proved something to the masses -
that it is entirely possible to gain emotional response from live,
purely electronic music. Not since classical has non-vocal live music
elicited such a massive 'spine-tingle' response. I listen to
the tape of Radio 1's Glasters broadcast and it can still bring me to
the verge of tears.
The Prods are appealing to a different mindset, so to avoid a
flamefest I shall say that I appreciate the attraction, but amongst myself
and friends, the Prodigy are an in-joke, starting from the picture on the inside of
the album a couple of years ago - you know the one with Liam Howlett
cutting the rope bridge and gesticulating. Its a nice image, but how
many illegal parties have the Prods played of late? (Cue
flamefest...)

yan
Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Next album
Date: 10 Oct 1996 15:33:17 +0200

Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come?

And to all of you who love electronic music, I will advice you to buy Electric
Universe' album "One Love". It's goa trance but much softer than much of the
other goa trance. I love it.

Sigbjorn

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Jonny L /live performances
Date: 10 Oct 1996 14:31:24 +0000

At 12:57 10/10/96 +0000, Yan wrote:

>The Prods are appealing to a different mindset, so to avoid a
>flamefest I shall say that I appreciate the attraction, but amongst myself
>and friends, the Prodigy are an in-joke, starting from the picture on the
inside of
>the album a couple of years ago - you know the one with Liam Howlett
>cutting the rope bridge and gesticulating. Its a nice image, but how
>many illegal parties have the Prods played of late? (Cue
>flamefest...)

I would like to point out that I do like the music, Experience is a bloody
good album, and Music for the jilted generation is astounding in places (the
narcotic suite). I guess I would just prefer techno to be a bit more
faceless again, that used to set it apart from traditional rock music. Hope
I don't upset anyone with that. I'm simply not keen on techno compromising
too much to appeal to the rock/indie crowd. I'd prefer they accept it on
it's own terms. And, to me, the Prodigy live tend to sound like a DAT with a
few ad-libs on top.
Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: "David.Campbell.100" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Next album
Date: 10 Oct 1996 16:20:40 +0100 (BST)

Dear Sigbjorn,

You've got a scandanavian name, so i presume you dont live in the UK. ( i
live in Scotland )

Here, and i thought in the rest of the world, Orbital released a new
album a couple of months ago, titled "In-Sides". ( Get it?  Think of all
the sleeve artwork! )  It is composed of 6 "pieces" of music.  One of
these is "P.E.T.R.O.L., which first appeared on the soundtrack for the
Sony Playstation game "Wipeout".  Another is a reworking of a track
Orbital did for the "help" LP, a record who's proceeds went to Warchild,
a charity involved in helping those who suffered/are still suffering in
the Bosnian conflict in Eastern Europe.

As expected, the album is very different from all those before.  The
music has been described as being the first example of a "new genre", the
"Techno concerto".  It is very classical sounding, with the first single
from it, "The Box", being much like a film soundtrack, very Ennio
Morricone influenced.  It's widely regarded as the best yet, and a great
improvement ( in my humble opinion ) on the patchy "Snivilisation" LP

I would have expected you to have found this by now - if not, it's an
essential purchase, one of the best LPs of 96 so far.

Happy listening, if you want to mail me back, by adress is:

[e-mail]

Bye bye for now, David

> > Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come?
>
> And to all of you who love electronic music, I will advice you to buy Electric
> Universe' album "One Love". It's goa trance but much softer than much of the
> other goa trance. I love it.
>
> Sigbjorn
>


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From: David Menkes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Next album
Date: 10 Oct 1996 09:03:43 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come?
>
> And to all of you who love electronic music, I will advice you to buy Electric
> Universe' album "One Love". It's goa trance but much softer than much of the
> other goa trance. I love it.

Their last release (in the US anyways) was In Sides, and I'm not sure
about their one AFTER that.
--
   -= B E H E M O T H =-
 Web Jockey Extraordinaire
http://vv.cta.com/~behemoth

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Next album
Date: 10 Oct 1996 17:12:17 BST



>Sent by:[e-mail]
> Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come?

They should start on the new album after the EP stuff and something else
which is gonna happen and i cannot for the life of me tell anyone or ill
get my ass kicked! <PHEW>

Everything planned (apart from the Live Ep) is very un-confirmed , so ive
been told not to say anything yet. But i can say they are gonna be VERY
busy!

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price (Tag is on the laptop...cant be bothered to copy it
across)

Orbital ZINE

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Next album
Date: 10 Oct 1996 17:18:02 BST


>Sent by:"David.Campbell.100" <[e-mail]>

> > Can anyone tell me when Orbital's next album will come?

David, he was asking when the NEXT one is out.

>Here, and i thought in the rest of the world, Orbital released a new
>album a couple of months ago, titled "In-Sides". <SNIP>

>As expected, the album is very different from all those before.  The
>music has been described as being the first example of a "new genre", the
>"Techno concerto".

I prefer Intelligent Techno...also NME branded as Orbitals wave goodbye to
Techno album. Strange eh?

>It is very classical sounding, with the first single
>from it, "The Box", being much like a film soundtrack, very Ennio
>Morricone influenced.

It was more influenced by that geezer who did the JB stuff...Mr Barry (i
think).

>I would have expected you to have found this by now - if not, it's an
>essential purchase, one of the best LPs of 96 so far.

Certainly is....wise words....

Cheers

STeve LOOPZ Price (TSIOTLAICBBTGIO)

Orbital ZIne.

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From: [e-mail] (Frank Todd)
Subject: Re: Time Becomes/Input Out
Date: 10 Oct 1996 18:29:25 GMT

On Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:37:29 BST, you wrote:

>I wrote:-
>>> It was the record companies idea to cash in, for a change! (sarcy).
>>> Its just another extra track (only 30 odd seconds long). For =
collectors
>>> only. Ie dont go a buy this , just for that track....you will be =
hiting
>>> yourself.
>
>Then Toddy wrote:
>
>>well I already have all of Orbital's albums so I'm not likely to!!!
>
>Well qualified.
>
>>It is shite, it ruins the atmosphere from Belfast, just like Input Out =
on=20
>>untitled2, right after a huge wind down from such a breathtaking track=20

>Aint that Disgusting was a piss take. Thats all.
>As for Input Out and Time Becomes, well i think your missing the point =
of=20
>the track. It was a clever time sych track where two voices are one and=20
>then go out of time and slowly remerge. Cause we can all do that cant=20
>we...should take minutes ;)

oh yeah, I've listened to it loads, and get what it is...I think it's
really interesing to listen to...but...the loud voice at the beginning
of input out totally ruins the peaceful mood at the end of
Halcyon+on+on

>Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents of=20
>music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a ambient=20
>album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they make an=20
>album with different music types on. So you will not have peaceful vibe=20
>running through the whole album.=20

Snivilisation was done one tune after another, so the whole thing is
really a sort of 75 minute trip, unlike In Sides, where all the tunes
are seperate soundscapes, a compilation album really if you yhink
about it.
As far as Attached goes, I think it is the "best" on that album (If I
had to say that any tune is "better" than any other)
Besides, Attached goes well after Are We Here?
>Steve
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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: re:Next album
Date: 10 Oct 1996 13:44:41 -0500

>Everything planned (apart from the Live Ep) is very un-confirmed , so ive
>been told not to say anything yet. But i can say they are gonna be VERY
>busy!

I hope it's not a film score.  They're still young enough and raw enough to
play live.  When they're old and tired then they can do the film score
business, at their leisure. : )

Let John Barry (not an old geezer, a genius!) do the films for now...

P.S.  -- Actually, I don't care what they do as long as they keep producing
beautiful music!


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Hare)
Subject: Re: Jonny L /live performances
Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:32:14 +0100

>>>>>Is it just me, or does anyone else find the Prodigy's
>'rock 'n' roll' live antics a bit tedious? I've never felt that dance music
>"needs a more rock 'n' roll vibe".


Jon
Not TOO off topic as Orbital couldn't be more different in their live show
than Prodigy yet they are the two best dance acts around at the moment.
Prodigy are more of a rock and roll band anyway, with more lyrics and the
focus on Keith and the black guy who tries to look like an evil zombie all
the time. (for a hilarious article read the NME interview (when they were
the cover) and they went mad when the interviewer called them a couple of
Bez's ("Absolutely no fucking way are we Bezzes man...."))
Have seen the Prodigy a couple of times now and their energy just creates a
great vibe - just great as they are (although a little less great than the
subject of this list!)

Daniel

"I don't have a witty quote either"


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Hare)
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:32:11 +0100

>>Where are you from???

As long as this isn't a fiendishly sophisticated chain mail, I'm from
Shepherds Bush, London UK
Seen Orbital at two Glastonburys, RAH and Earth Energy Festival this year.
Still the most satisfying band live - and I agree with Steve that Attached
is the best track on Sniv (would love to hear it done live)
Last weekend I did it and spent about GBP25 on the EP's - couldn't go on
without KNOWING, if you know what I mean.

Dan


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 10:08:27 +0200

What is Orbital's best album/track?
On this question I will hear everybodys opinion.

Personaly I think the brown album is the best
and that Halcyon is the best track.
Does anyone agree?

Sigbjorn (I live in Bergen in Norway)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 04:30:00 -0400

My all-time favorite track would probably be Planet of the Shapes.  It just
wigs
me every time I hear it.  But I do love Halcyon, in fact I was listening to
it when
I recieved your mail.  I will have to agree with you that my favorite is the
brown
album... The first half just flows, the rest of it is kinda a cool down.
 Kinda like
a trip:  really hard at first then tapers off to a more beautific side.


                                                DJRavery






1996 DJRavery Communications Inc.
Delivering on a sub-frequency of -2000khz

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Time Becomes/Input Out
Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:27:43 BST

 LOOPZ wrote :

>>Its like having Attached after Are We Here ... 2 different contents
>>of music...one more chilling than the other. Orbital dont create a
>>ambient album or a dance album (as you know...cause ya got them) , they
>>make an album with different music types on. So you will not have
>>peaceful vibe running through the whole album.

>Snivilisation was done one tune after another, so the whole thing is
>really a sort of 75 minute trip,

Snivilization was an experimental album (Phil quoted), load of music types
intwined (sp?).

>unlike In Sides, where all the tunes
>are seperate soundscapes, a compilation album really if you yhink
>about it.

Its the film theme for In Sides. Although P.E.T.R.O.L and Adnan (or Adnans
as it became on In Sides) were written quite a long time ago. Out There
Somewhere was the last written and if Orbital were to continue in that
trend i would be VERY happy.

>As far as Attached goes, I think it is the "best" on that album (If I
>had to say that any tune is "better" than any other)

I preferred Attached with Semi-Detached when they broadcast it on John
Peel ... had a better feel and both tracks complimented each other.
Snivs best tracks for me must be Forever (Very chillin...loose yourself in
it mode...Zoneable Anne ?) and Sad But True (Their first attempt at proper
sung lyrics...great sound to it as well).

>Besides, Attached goes well after Are We Here?

It does...it does

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Next album
Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:29:17 BST



>Let John Barry (not an old geezer, a genius!) do the films for now...

Old Genius.

>P.S.  -- Actually, I don't care what they do as long as they keep
>producing beautiful music!

I agree...the more they put out the better.
Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:GBP25
Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:44:54 BST

>Last weekend I did it and spent about GBP25 on the EP's - couldn't go on
>without KNOWING, if you know what I mean.

Is that Great Britain Pounds....or Gerbil Badger Plops ? ;)
Which Eps did you get and what couldnt you go on without KNOWING ?

Steve
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Subject: re:Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 11:51:15 BST

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Subject: re:Martin - Get A Life ?
Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:01:54 BST

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From: Sanjay Arora <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 08:15:35 -0400

Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast, Belfast,
Belfast!!!!
                maybe the live version of Halcyon.
-Sanjay

>----------
>From:     [e-mail][SMTP:[e-mail]]
>Sent:      October 11, 1996 4:08 AM
>To:     [e-mail]
>Subject:     Best album/track
>
>What is Orbital's best album/track?
>On this question I will hear everybodys opinion.
>
>Personaly I think the brown album is the best
>and that Halcyon is the best track.
>Does anyone agree?
>
>Sigbjorn (I live in Bergen in Norway)
>

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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Chime/Omen CDSingles
Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:42:39 GMT

 Dear all
 Does anyone know anyplace (or anybody) which still has copies of either the
 'Chime' or 'Omen' CD singles for sale. My copies were amongst a pile
 of things  that got nicked 2 or 3 years back, and I've never managed to track
 down replacements... I realise this is probably gonna be a fruitless
 search, but I guess there's no har in trying.

 Please email me privately if you have an answer - save clogging up
 the list, eh?

 Andy Jackson
"There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More."


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Time Becomes/Input Out
Date: 11 Oct 1996 16:15:26 +0000

At 18:29 10/10/96 GMT, Frank Todd wrote:
>As far as Attached goes, I think it is the "best" on that album (If I
>had to say that any tune is "better" than any other)
>Besides, Attached goes well after Are We Here?

To me, Attached sounds like the pointer to the new style they explored on In
Sides, it's long, builds gradually and has a similar kind of vibe to a lot
of In Sides (Out there somewhere? especially). I would probably agree,
Attached is my fave from Sniv now that it's all settled down (it normally
takes me a year or two to work out which is my favourite track on an album).
Attached really closes the album on a high note.

Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Chime/Omen CDSingles
Date: 11 Oct 1996 16:34:05 +0000

At 13:42 11/10/96 GMT, Andrew Jackson wrote:
> Dear all
> Does anyone know anyplace (or anybody) which still has copies of either the
> 'Chime' or 'Omen' CD singles for sale.

Yeah, I'd like them too, and Mutations on CD, if anybody can furnish me with
the info, please.

thanks,
Jon
Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: [e-mail] (Violette)
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 15:56:29 GMT

On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:08:27 +0200, you wrote:

>What is Orbital's best album/track?
>On this question I will hear everybodys opinion.
>
>Personaly I think the brown album is the best
>and that Halcyon is the best track.
>Does anyone agree?

    Halcyon is the most beautiful hypnotic track I ever praised.=20
But I think Green Album is the best, and the track Midnight. (so
mystic!)

                            Violette
                        [e-mail]


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:07:44 +0000

At 10:08 11/10/96 +0200, [e-mail] wrote:
>What is Orbital's best album/track?

My favourite these days is In Sides, Out There Somewhere? being my fave track.
Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: "Steven Dzilvelis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 11 Oct 1996 10:10:40 -0700

Last week, I actually heard "The Box" in a few goth clubs in San =
Francisco, and now it's getting air play here in Denver on a commercial =
radio station.  Bizzare huh?


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 12:51:01 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> Personaly I think the brown album is the best
> and that Halcyon is the best track.
> Does anyone agree?

    There was a time when I would have agreed completely, but at this
point I'm not terribly sure. At the moment, I think I actually prefer
Snivilisation to everything else as a whole. Best song, I couldn't say. I
think I could probably pick about 1 per album..



halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 12:53:11 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

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    Umm, what exactly is this?

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Richard Rowe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:01:39 +0100 (BST)

I live in supposedly sunny old Bournemouth in the south of England.  Been
here all my life - ho hum...

Got all the albums plus a few singles and (goes without saying) they're my
fave rave (mind you, playing the particularly brilliant Leftfield CD at the
mo).  Seen them twice, at the Royal Albert Hall this year, and at
Glastonbury 95.  This is where I stumbled upon them while waiting for Pulp.
I was an instant convert - they were truly superb, and especially went down
well with a good spliff!

Cheers
Rich


At 13:57 08/10/96 -0800, you wrote:
>
>This is a question you can all respond to instantaneously.  For general
>interest sake, where are all you orbital subscribers from?  I reside in a
>town called Kamloops, in the province of British Columbia, in the
>country of Canada. I am curious to know the distribution of orbital
>fans.  RSVP ASAP, wesleyeccleston.
>


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From: Richard Rowe <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:CD lengths
Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:01:36 +0100 (BST)

At 13:02 09/10/96 +0000, you wrote:
>At 20:11 08/10/96 +0100, Richard Rowe wrote:
>>Shurely shome mistake?  Times Fly being the case in point - that was
>>specifically over 25 minutes (thus ruling it out of the charts as it wasn't
>>just comprised of remixes).  I remember reading an interview at the time
>>saying that they knew it'd be banned from the charts, yet wouldn't work
>>track times around that ruling - the track length is whatever it eventually
>>works out at.
>
>I understood the limit was 40 mins, I didn't know about some restriction to
>do with remixes. I gathered that Times Fly was ineligible because of the
>2x12" and 2x7" formats.

The ruling is that a CD Single of different material is not allowed to be a)
over 25 mins, b) have more than four tracks.  The exception here is singles
that's tracks are comprised solely of remixes, these can have any number of
tracks, and also have a longer running time (about 45 mins I think).  2x12"
etc are banned as they are seen as one 12" plus a freebie.  You are not
allowed to give away freebies with a single (like an Iron Maiden denim
patch!), else that'll cause it to get banned as well.

>>More a case of record company intervention maybe?
>
>Haven't Orbital always prided themselves on doing what they want, not what
>the label wants? Maybe they just want a bit of chart action to reward us
>loyal fans :-)

I wasn't pointing an accusing finger - honest!  I just know what wankers can
be running record companies a lot of the time.

Cheers
Rich


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: countries
Date: 11 Oct 1996 23:38:48 +0400


      Hello!
  My name is Sasha. I live in Moscow, Russia. The first thing of Orbital
i heard was 'Are we here?'.
That was a year and a half ago. Amazing! Still listen to with great
pleasure.
Unfortunately, it seems to me that it is to hard to see an Orbital's
live here in Moscow. But i live and hope, because have no ability to go
out of country now.
  If somebody has a desire to write me, my e-mail is
                      [e-mail]
         Bye

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: HA: 2 questions
Date: 11 Oct 1996 23:48:40 +0400


I think that would be possible to make a performance in one of the
Moscow clubs.
We had a good one of the ORB in Ptuch-club last winter.
I dont think that ORB are more popular than brothers here.
I said 'club', because it seems to me that a big dancefloor won't
attract many people.
There aren't some.

>Respect

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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Hare)
Subject: re:GBP25
Date: 11 Oct 1996 20:58:23 +0100

>>Last weekend I did it and spent about GBP25 on the EP's - couldn't go on
>>without KNOWING, if you know what I mean.
>
>Is that Great Britain Pounds....or Gerbil Badger Plops ? ;)
>Which Eps did you get and what couldnt you go on without KNOWING ?
>
Hey Steve
I have got into a nasty habit of putting GBP instead of =A3, since the=
 gateway
at one of my clients helpfully converts pound signs into dollars,=
 immediately
causing huge hassle for ordering systems and the like - old habits die hard=
 etc.
Anyway, no way would I trade my Gerbils for mere CD's, even orbital ones.

        Radiccio
        Satan
        Times Fly
        Midnight/choice

It was actually only 20 now I think of it, I bought some sale CDs at the
same time (Clash, Ash (what a rhyme), Dodgy etc) which probably added to the
feeling that a lot went out of my pocket without a lot going into my pocket,
if you know what I mean.

Having said that, glad to have them - the Halcyon mix has a great start but
seems to lack the punch somehow, looking forward to the live Satan and still
forming opinions about the non-album tracks.
Still think that Diversions is the best 'non-album'.

Nice that the list is developing more of a friendly vibe - I get enough
note/counter note battles at work without them infringing on the pleasure of
reading about Orbital.


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Hare)
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 11 Oct 1996 20:58:26 +0100

>Glastonbury 95.  This is where I stumbled upon them while waiting for Pulp.
>I was an instant convert - they were truly superb, and especially went down
>well with a good spliff!
>
Not only at the same gig, doing exactly the same things!
Dan


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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries.
Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:45:32 -0700 (PDT)

  Hi  fellow orbiters,
  My name is Jeff Fanno and I live in wonderful San Diego, CA.  I've been
an Orbital fan since I first heard Chime many moons ago, and   have been a
raving lunatic ever since.  My friend Mark and myself had the great
opportunity to see Orbital, Ultramarine, and Meat Beat Manifesto about
four years ago during some MTV sponsored gig for only ten bucks.  Needless
to say the show ripped and we couldn't wait to get our next dose of these
electro music mavens.  Didn't think we'd have to wait until June of this
of year to see them again, but it was well worth the wait.  Saw them at
Organic '96 along with the Chemicals, Underworld, MBM, Loop Guru, and Orb.
Unquestionably, Orbital stole the show, the combination of visuals plus
mind-expanding music, was the best I've ever witnessed.  Anyone know if
Orbital is touring in the western US again? I've heard rumours, but that
is all.
    As far as my favorite tracks, there are so many to choose from but
right now I like the 28 minute version of The Box, if you can call that a
song.  I LOVE the brown album, especially with a Bose subwoofer under my
bed for a bass response that is as good as sex.  Impact USA is also near
and dear to my heart, currently and I hope that Orbital can add this to
their live EP along with that Belinda Carlile(sic) snippet and the live
version of Halcyon and Out There Somewhere.  Orbital makes soooo many
good tunes that it is pick just one that rules, but I will say that
Quality Seconds is my least favorite, I'll leave that one for metalhead
(not Goldie) tweekers.  That is all.


"that which cannot be rationalized in man must be expressed" anonymous
   Late
   Fanno


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 16:43:56 -0500

Hey Steve, have we seen this one before? ; )

Anyway, I'd say my favorite track is Impact (Halcyon isn't even in the same
league) although Somewhere Out There is catching up.  My favorite album is
now (officially!) In Sides.  The brothers really topped themselves with
their latest. Going back to all the other albums I noticed there are some
weak tracks which really pull down the rest of the album.  Stuff like
Quality Seconds, Science Friction and Crash and Carry kinda dilute the
toxic mix of Are We Here, Attached, and Forever.  On the Brown, standouts
like Halcyon, Impact, and Walk Now raise the bar.  Green is alleviated by
the incredible Satan, Midnight, and Belfast.

In Sides doesn't have a *weak song...even P.E.T.R.O.L. is pretty damned good.

*a weak Orbital song is still better than 99% of the rest


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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:34:46 -0500

>At 10:08 11/10/96 +0200, [e-mail] wrote:
>>What is Orbital's best album/track?
>
>My favourite these days is In Sides, Out There Somewhere?
                                                                Yes!!!  Go
On With Your Bad Self!!! Love
that track!
>being my fave track.
>Jon Green: [e-mail]
>"The less effort one puts in, the greater
>satisfaction one gains from a good result"
>    -J. Green, 1996.
>
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@


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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 11 Oct 1996 18:54:36 -0500

> My all-time favorite track would probably be Planet of the Shapes.  It just
> wigs
> me every time I hear it.  But I do love Halcyon, in fact I was listening to
> it when
> I recieved your mail.  I will have to agree with you that my favorite is the
> brown
> album... The first half just flows, the rest of it is kinda a cool down.
>  Kinda like
> a trip:  really hard at first then tapers off to a more beautific side.
>
>
>                                                 DJRavery
>



I live in orbital2. my faith in techno music was created by orbital2.
orbital2 sets the standard for techno music period. anyone disagrees and
thinks orbital3 in sides is better? if so email me and we'll chat.
jonathan

[e-mail]

1,2,3,4,5,5,47,575,3673  times tops time stops time becomes aloof.

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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Time Becomes/Input Out
Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:00:37 -0500

> Snivilization was an experimental album (Phil quoted), load of music types
> intwined (sp?).


all i can say about snivilisation is that the first track on that album
is one of the most freshest techno songs ive ever heard. the rest of the
album is too experimental. the first song is BY FAR the most FRESH
techno song that orbital has created in my opinion.
plus the repetition is tops too! i guess you could say fresh as in lush
so that is the lush song of snivilisation. im to busy to bother looking
for the album but i know for sure it's the first track.

jonathan

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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Best track is forever.
Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:07:53 -0500

> Halcyon is the most beautiful hypnotic track I ever praised.
> But I think Green Album is the best, and the track Midnight. (so
> mystic!)
>
>                                                         Violette
>                                                 [e-mail]


i agree too but even though i know that orbital2 was the greatest and
halcyon was the most satisfying and complete i do believe that the first
track off snivilisation is the most freshest song ive heard from
orbital. the grey album(sniv) is overall an experimental album but the
first track is so fresh and complete! listen to it again and tell me if
you agree with me! ah the song is called forever!

forever is great !

jonathan

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:07:50 -0700 (PDT)



On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Steven Dzilvelis wrote:

> Last week, I actually heard "The Box" in a few goth clubs in San Francisco, and now it's getting air play here in Denver on a commercial radio station.  Bizzare huh?
>
   Just recently on 91X an "alternative" station in San Diego, they've
began playing "The Box" too, alas without any notoriety.  They seem to
play it without telling anyone what it is.  Of course the true fans
already know and are scratching their heads about just know realizing how
great a group Orbital really is.  BTH I've "The Box" video played on MTV
120 min a few times  and is very good and interesting, but what isn't.

  Out the Somewhere
    Fanno


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Best track is forever.
Date: 11 Oct 1996 19:21:56 -0500

Forever is a great track just because it fits it's name so well.  The damn
thing loops over and over and over again and I NEVER GET SICK OF IT!  What
a great song.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 12 Oct 1996 00:25:49 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote:

> *a weak Orbital song is still better than 99% of the rest

    Ya know, I was thinking the exact same thing. I think this is
turning into the "Let's pat each other on the back because we are all
extremely cool for listening to orbital" list. Have you noticed that it
seems like most of the people on here aren't just fans, but extremely
dedicated fans. (Well, those of us that post anyway.) I think that's just
about the coolest thing I can say about Orbital, that even when I disagree
with someone about a song, it's pretty much given that it's still going to
be a song I really like. I just have to compliment everyone on their
superb taste in music. <grin>

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 12 Oct 1996 00:27:31 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Steven Dzilvelis wrote:

> Last week, I actually heard "The Box" in a few goth clubs in San Francisco, and now it's getting air play here in Denver on a commercial radio station.  Bizzare huh?

I heard "Times Fly (slow)" on NC State student radio station last week,
and it's famous all around here for being the station that plays nothing
but hardcore rap & death metal. I wonder which category the brothers fall
into..

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 12 Oct 1996 00:32:19 -0400 (EDT)

On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, fanno wrote:

> great a group Orbital really is.  BTH I've "The Box" video played on MTV
> 120 min a few times  and is very good and interesting, but what isn't.

    Did anyone see the show 'Amp' they played on MTV at 3am (eastern)
the night of the VMA's? THey played videos by Orbital, FSOL, Spacetime
Continuum, Ken Ishii, Aphex Twin, Underworld, and a few more I can't even
remember. And the theme music was Underworld's 'Cowgirl'. I just remember
thinking that the Spacetime Continuum video was the coolest video I have
ever seen. (Even better than Peaches!)


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Shaun David Rader  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 12 Oct 1996 02:16:28 -0700 (PDT)

I haven't been following the list recently (due to college) but I came
across this one...

Seriously, people have heard "The Box" on the radio??  Now is this during
the day or do they just play it at 2 in the morning (like MTV)?  I don't
really think any radio station has the stones to play Orbital in prime
time.

I walked by someone's dorm on campus and heard "The Box" being played.  I
was really shocked.  I have NEVER heard Orbital anywhere before (other
than my stereo of course).

I heard "The Girl With the Sun In Her Head" months ago at 2AM on KROQ in
Southern California.  It made me mad that the radio station got "In Sides"
before I did...

Shaun Rader


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From: John Nguyen Van <[e-mail]>
Subject: best song/album
Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:49:05 -0500 (CDT)



 My favorite album would have to be Snivilisation, with In Sides
 close behind. The brown album is pretty excellent as well. The green
 album is the only one that I don't play constantly ( apart from Belfast ).

 Fave track would have to be Science Friction, with Halcyon and Belfast
 right up there. Oh yah, Dwr Budr and Sunday as well!


                J

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 12 Oct 1996 06:05:27 -0700

On 10/12/96 02:16:28 you wrote:
>Seriously, people have heard "The Box" on the radio??  Now is this during
>the day or do they just play it at 2 in the morning (like MTV)?  I don't
>really think any radio station has the stones to play Orbital in prime
>time.
>
>I walked by someone's dorm on campus and heard "The Box" being played.  I
>was really shocked.  I have NEVER heard Orbital anywhere before (other
>than my stereo of course).
>Shaun Rader
>
>
>
"spin cycle" a radio station show saturday nights in boston 10pm-2am played much orbital and more until the station just got a
big "shake-up" and dropped it!! and fired the dj liquid todd.this station does'nt know superior music when they here it they
are all wankers they make me f#cking mad.they can stick their crap pearl jam up their arse.
well pissed off in boston,
mick


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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 12 Oct 1996 09:39:09 -0700 (PDT)

> I heard "The Girl With the Sun In Her Head" months ago at 2AM on KROQ in
> Southern California.  It made me mad that the radio station got "In Sides"
> before I did...

It pisses me off that whenever the DJ's start talking they play ORB,
ORbital, Chemical Brothers, and Prodigy in the background.  EVERY TIME!!
Then around 2 am they will start actually playing the songs.

later,

ajay

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 12 Oct 1996 14:08:25 -0700 (PDT)

I recently saw on Orbital's official site that there are two new live
releases on a couple of seperate compilations. The songs are the Girl With
The Sun In Her Head and The Box, both are live as I said.  THe box is on a
radio 1 comp while TGWTSIHH is on a comp. in memory of Sally Harding or
something similar, sorry I forgot the name.  Anyway, has anyone heard
these tracks yet, where was the concert recorded and what songs are
expected on the Live Ep and when is the expected to be released.
Inquiring minds want to know.   Thanks from a devoted fan.
  Jeff Fanno


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Best track is forever.
Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:16:27 -0400

     Forever is a really cool song, it really rocks with the subwoofers in
the car stereo.
As does Are We Here.  Those low bass notes that just make you wanna move your
bootie.



                                     DJRavery






DJRavery Communications Inc.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Best album/track
Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:20:13 -0400

     I also agree strongly.  The fact that we are all about equally obssesed
about the concept of Orbital is cool.  I guess its the fact that we all come
from different corners
of th globe.... And before we all had net access, we thought we would never
meet anybody else who knew the word of the Orbital.  Just a thought;)


                                   DJRavery





DJRavery Communications

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Journey into...
Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:28:04 -0400

     Diversions is a thumpin disc.  To me it seems to be the most
"dancefloor" of all thier released material.  Although I think a few tracks
were mixed up by the Psychic Warriors ov Gaia and C.J. Bolland.  But the
Euro-tunnel disaster mix rocks da howse.

                              DJRavery




DJRavery Communications

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: if only they new
Date: 13 Oct 1996 06:16:47 -0700

>On 10/13/96 02:20:13 you wrote:
>And before we all had net access, we thought we would never
>>meet anybody else who knew the word of the Orbital.  Just a thought;)
>>
>>
>>                                   DJRavery
>this is true,i don't know anyone who has even heard of orbital let a lone like them.these people must have such a void in
>their tasteless musical lifes.....
>
>mick
>
>
>
>




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From: Simon Bailey <[e-mail]>
Subject: best tracks etc etc
Date: 12 Oct 1996 20:35:36 +0100

hey guys + girls!

fave track at the mo is adnan's (or is it adnan??).
it just flows so sweetly!!
as for a fave album..well it just depends on the mood though i'll always
have that little sweet spot for sniv cos that's when i first really got
into orbital.
oh yeah and impact live at glastonbury...its all been said before about
that one!!

simon

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Subject: Re: best tracks etc etc
Date: 13 Oct 1996 19:14:09 GMT


>fave track at the mo is adnan's (or is it adnan??).
>it just flows so sweetly!!

one of my favourites as well, but then, most of Orbital's tunes are my
favourite!!
Adnan's definitely stands out though.
the In Sides one is Adnan's, which is like a longer version of Adnan,
which was used as Orbital's contribution to the Help! album by the War
Child project.

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Very cool site
Date: 13 Oct 1996 14:31:06 -0500

In case you folks didn't know, there is a very nice archive of some
RealAudio 3.0 files at http://www.imusic.com. Click past the first screen
and on the second screen there is someting called Club IMusic. Select this.
 On the next screen there is an option called "Smash it or Trash it" which
allows you to listen to 29 songs by various artists (via RealAudio 3.0) and
to either Smash or Trash these tracks, thus affecting the order the songs
are in.  It's like a pop chart.  Currently our boys are in the #10 slot
with "The Box".  Let's smash them up to first.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Very cool site
Date: 13 Oct 1996 17:27:34 -0400

Im all for it!!!!  These guys deserve a little respect.  Actually they
deserve alot of respect.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Computer Scanners
Date: 13 Oct 1996 17:39:17 -0500

Hi Everyone!  I know i will get "falmed" for this one!
        Sorry this dosen't have MUCH to do with ORBITAL but it does in a
small way!

        My father is thinking about getting me a scanner!

        We are having a hsrd time deciding on which one of 2 we want to get!
        We have heard both goo and bad thing about each!

        we are deciding between:

        Hewlet Packer HP4

                Or

        Mustek 1200P

        I would appreciate any ones opinoin!

        This does have to do with ORBITAL though! i am going to prove this
so i don't get         flamed!!

        If i get a new scanner i will be able to offer kick a** pictures of
them and related         stuff on my unofficial site!

        And i would be happy to scan orbital stuff for other people at no
charge!


        DON't Flame Me!  LOL:)

DIGGER

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Mehrle)
Subject: Orbital MIDI files???
Date: 13 Oct 1996 18:06:10 -0700

Hello there:

This is my first post to this group. First, let me congratulate you for
your most excellent taste in music. ;)

My foremost question at this point is: Are there any MIDI files from
Orbital's tracks out there, and where are they? Anyone?

Michael

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Test
Date: 13 Oct 1996 20:59:32 -0500

This is just a test!
Sorry!
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From: Juan Ramon Garcia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: countries
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:39:39 +0200 (MET DST)

    First time I write here. I'm a spanish guy and I've known
Orbital since this summer at Benicassim Festival in Spain. I
didn't want to see them, i thought they were too plain. I was
shocked to see them. I've never heard and saw something like
that. I would like to know if there is any edited video.
Please answer. Keep on going.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:08:17 BST

The Girl With The Sun In Her Head (live) is released on a Sally Harding
tribute compilation album (The actual track is dedicated to her on In
Sides - check inlay folks). Sally Harding was a close friend of the
Hartnolls who passed away late last year. She was an inspiring
photographer and regulary shot photos of Orbital, Aphex Twin, Drum Club,
Andrew Weatherall and so on. There is a triubte page in the forth-coming
Issue 2 of LOOPZ. Dont know the location of the track as yet...

The Box was recorded at Leeds Sound City by BBC Radio 1. Ive not heard the
compilation version as ive got the whole gig on tape <grin>.  But that
night they played the EP release version (track 1) and the incidental bits
(track 2 and 3) but no doubt you wont get all that on the compilation
(maybe track 1 only).

As for the live EP read on.....next message.

BTW something strange with the list....ive only got 1 message from it this
weekend !

Steve
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Sent by:fanno <[e-mail]>
 I recently saw on Orbital's official site that there are two new live
releases on a couple of seperate compilations. The songs are the Girl With
The Sun In Her Head and The Box, both are live as I said.  THe box is on a
radio 1 comp while TGWTSIHH is on a comp. in memory of Sally Harding or
something similar, sorry I forgot the name.  Anyway, has anyone heard
these tracks yet, where was the concert recorded and what songs are
expected on the Live Ep and when is the expected to be released.
Inquiring minds want to know.   Thanks from a devoted fan.
  Jeff Fanno


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:LIVE EP - The latest!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:11:34 BST

The Live Ep has taken another mutation.

The latest on it is that they now intend on releasing a double CD. By
placing SATAN on both they are not breaking the EP release rules set by
the wonderful charts <sarcy>.

So the following tracks were originally lined up might be juggled about a
bit. No doubt after my visit Thursday i may know more....

Satan - Live at New York.
Lush - Live at Boston
The Girl With The Sun In Her Head - Live at Boston.

Ive heard the last 2 recordings so far....do i need to recommend them ?

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Orbital Video
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:22:54 BST

There is no official video as yet im afraid.
But being in Spain you would recieve MTV Europe...and every year MTV tend
to show them playing live in their studio (an hours worth). It was
recorded after the SNIV tour and is mostly Sniv stuff. Its usually played
on late evening or most likely on th Chill Out Zone on
Satnight/Sunmorning. The Chill Out usually plays quite a bit of Orbital as
well so its worth watching....hope thats some help.

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Sent by:Juan Ramon Garcia <[e-mail]>
     First time I write here. I'm a spanish guy and I've known
Orbital since this summer at Benicassim Festival in Spain. I
didn't want to see them, i thought they were too plain. I was
shocked to see them. I've never heard and saw something like
that. I would like to know if there is any edited video.
Please answer. Keep on going.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Orbital MIDI files???
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:26:11 BST

Welcome!

>My foremost question at this point is: Are there any MIDI files from
>Orbital's tracks out there, and where are they? Anyone?

Not seen or heard of any knocking about....sorry!

If anyone does find any can they let me know please!

Cheers

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: CD lengths
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:38:09 +0100

Richard Rowe wrote:


> The ruling is that a CD Single of different material is not allowed to be a)
> over 25 mins, b) have more than four tracks.  The exception here is singles
> that's tracks are comprised solely of remixes, these can have any number of
> tracks, and also have a longer running time (about 45 mins I think).
I just bought the new Future Sound Of London release (My Kingdom). This
has 5 'parts' which add up to around half an hour of music but as you
say this is ok because they are all versions of each other.

> >>More a case of record company intervention maybe?
> >
> >Haven't Orbital always prided themselves on doing what they want, not what
> >the label wants? Maybe they just want a bit of chart action to reward us
> >loyal fans :-)

The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the
staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. This is all one track but
it was repressed as a radio edit and a slightly shortened origianl edit.

This was presumabley before this regulations you speak of came into
effect. I know that The orb wanted to release Pomme Fritz as a single
but their record label (island?) put it out as an album because it was
so long and each track was its own tune.

I know that this hasn't got much to do with Orbital but it does prove
that record companies normally do what they want and that singles have
been made which are limited only by the length of a CD.

Sam..,..

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: The Box, Quake...
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:44:11 +0100

Has anyone tried playing quake with the 'The Box' single in the CD Rom?
All I can say is that the creeky scary remix (number 2?) is simple out
of this world. Far better than the Nine Inch Nails effort that ID
Software was atmospheric.

Long live the dark side of dance!

Sam..,..

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:50:35 +0100

fanno wrote:

>    Just recently on 91X an "alternative" station in San Diego, they've
> began playing "The Box" too, alas without any notoriety.  They seem to
> play it without telling anyone what it is.  Of course the true fans
> already know and are scratching their heads about just know realizing
> how great a group Orbital really is.

Here in the UK Orbital have become wierdly mainstream, and they haven't
changed thier music to appeal to the mass market.
The box was a major release and most of the record shops had all the
posters up etc...

> BTH I've "The Box" video played on MTV  120 min a few times  and is > very good and interesting, but what isn't.

The video is great isn't it. They played it on all the music shows over
here and MTV had it on every hour or so. Even the really charty shows
played it.

Sam..,..

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From: Lister <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:25:01 +0100

Hi!

As a newcomer i'd like to hello everybody on the list!
I like Snivilisation, but In Sides is demonicaly good,
so i'd like to know how this kind of music is called.
Does anybody know any similar bands?

            :)=
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But I have promises to keep,
And sites to surf before I sleep,
And sites to surf before I sleep...
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:LIVE EP - The latest!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 05:34:12 -0500

>The Live Ep has taken another mutation.
>
>The latest on it is that they now intend on releasing a double CD. By
>placing SATAN on both they are not breaking the EP release rules set by
>the wonderful charts <sarcy>.
>
>So the following tracks were originally lined up might be juggled about a
>bit. No doubt after my visit Thursday i may know more....
>
>Satan - Live at New York.
>Lush - Live at Boston
>The Girl With The Sun In Her Head - Live at Boston.
                I would kill to hear out there some where live!  (I love
those tracks)
                Steve... Pull somo strings! LOL:)
>Ive heard the last 2 recordings so far....do i need to recommend them ?
>
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Subject: re:Re: CD lengths
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:35:32 BST



>I just bought the new Future Sound Of London release (My Kingdom). This
>has 5 'parts' which add up to around half an hour of music but as you
>say this is ok because they are all versions of each other.

Is it eligable for the charts though ?
i like FSOL a lot as well....weird and wonderful

>The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the
>staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. This is all one track but
>it was repressed as a radio edit and a slightly shortened origianl edit.

It was about 40 odd minutes i think. This was also released just before
the rulings changed. I shall post the rulings in the next mailmessage

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:CIN Rules for Chart Eligibility (c)1995
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:41:03 BST

<grin>
Product    Format        Dealer     Price    Playing Time

Singles    7-inch        Min    0.50    20 mins or less & nomore than 4
                    tracks
    Cass Tape    Min    1.20    ditto

    Cass Tapes    Min    1.99    ditto
                    OR
    12-inch        Min    1.99    if only one title (any no of     CD
    Min    2.42    mixes) is used a limit of 40
        minutes is applicable.

Hope that sums up the brilliant rules we have in the Uk about chart
releases. I cannot stand the charts!!!!!!

I also have the album rules....if any one is interested!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:LIVE EP - The latest!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:54:51 BST

>I would kill to hear out there some where live!  (I love those tracks)
>Steve... Pull somo strings! LOL:)

Its sounds brilliant live just as good as the studio version.
I think we shall definatly be having IMPACT on the cd now.
As soon as i find out more....ill shall let you have it!

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:CIN Rules for Chart Eligibility (c)1995
Date: 14 Oct 1996 13:18:47 +0000

>I also have the album rules....if any one is interested!

go on then
Jon Green: [e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:42:06 +0200

Yesterday they played a Orbital concert on the radio,
one and a half hour with Orbital on one of our national radio stations=0D=

here in Norway. CAN YOU BELIVE IT? I'm still in shock.
They have also played The Box on TV. And several Orbital tracks
were mixed together as background music for an advertisement for an
new TV-station.
Leftfield is used as background music on TV almost every day in Norway,
can anyone tell me if it is the same in other contries?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: LIVE EP - The latest!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:40:16 GMT


>Its sounds brilliant live just as good as the studio version.
>I think we shall definatly be having IMPACT on the cd now.
>As soon as i find out more....ill shall let you have it!

yeeeeeeeesssssss!!!!
I would love to hear Impact live.

Toddy.
 =20


 ___________________  ______  ___________   ___
|            /      \|      \|      \    | |   |
|____     __|        |       |       |   |_|   |
     |   |  |        |       |       |__     __|
     |   |  |        |       |       |  |   |
     |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|

                             =20
     =20

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Kind of Music is Orbital ?
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:59:01 BST


>As a newcomer i'd like to hello everybody on the list!

Hello Lister!

>so i'd like to know how this kind of music is called.

Not too sure....most mags ive seen describe it as Intelligent Techo or
Alternative Techno. Hard to say...there music trends are constantly
changing but always hugging the Techno aspect of things.

>Does anybody know any similar bands?

Again...i dont know anyone who touched Orbital in the complex looping way
that Orbital create their tracks. Personally i have a lot of time for LFO,
HIA, APhex Twin (selected tracks), Vapourspace and a few others. But they
are not much alike with Orbital.

Steve
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 _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
             Price
CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ
DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The Box, Quake...
Date: 14 Oct 1996 10:05:52 -0700

> Has anyone tried playing quake with the 'The Box' single in the CD Rom?
> All I can say is that the creeky scary remix (number 2?) is simple out
> of this world. Far better than the Nine Inch Nails effort that ID
> Software was atmospheric.
>
> Long live the dark side of dance!
>
> Sam..,..
no but i will!! i have been playing with hardfloor's "da damn phreak noize
phunk" which really puts you in the "kill everything" frame of mind.
happy hunting,mick

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From: Gustav Aagesen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 15:35:49 +0100 (MET)

> Yesterday they played a Orbital concert on the radio,
> one and a half hour with Orbital on one of our national radio stations
>

I didn`t get the chance to listen to it (I wasn`t aware of it ), which
concert was it.

> here in Norway. CAN YOU BELIVE IT? I'm still in shock.
> They have also played The Box on TV. And several Orbital tracks
> were mixed together as background music for an advertisement for an
> new TV-station.
> Leftfield is used as background music on TV almost every day in
Norway,
> can anyone tell me if it is the same in other contries?
>
I have also heard Orbital in the background on several MTV Europe
avertisments/comercials. But Ive only seen THE BOX on TV. R there any
other Orbital "videos" out.

BTW: There has been a lot of talk about SATAN, is it on a CD, or on a
concert alb./single, Its so darn difficult to get Orbital stuff where I
live.

I bought the green (?) album today (the one with CD typed on the cover),
and snivilisation. I`ve got the brown album and In Sides.




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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The Box, Quake...
Date: 14 Oct 1996 08:50:34 -0700 (PDT)

> Has anyone tried playing quake with the 'The Box' single in the CD Rom?
> All I can say is that the creeky scary remix (number 2?) is simple out
> of this world. Far better than the Nine Inch Nails effort that ID
> Software was atmospheric.

When I first got Quake, I just left my Insides in the CDROM and it was
great.  I haven't heard the Trent Reznor stuff yet, but I'm going to buy
the Full Quake soon.

later,

ajay

Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma         |    -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=-
[e-mail]             |       Internet Services
[e-mail]                |      data:  [phone]
http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/   |     voice:  [phone]


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Orbital MIDI files???
Date: 14 Oct 1996 11:57:19 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> Welcome!
>
> >My foremost question at this point is: Are there any MIDI files from
> >Orbital's tracks out there, and where are they? Anyone?
>
> Not seen or heard of any knocking about....sorry!
>
> If anyone does find any can they let me know please!

    Well, my brother has done sequences of a few songs on his
equipment, but I don't think much of it is in MIDI. He could probably
translate it over into general MIDI if anyone is that interested. I mean,
it wouldn't be exact, but It could be pretty close. Most of the beats and
such would be pretty close, it'd just be up to whoever to find voices that
sounded good..

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: Request for info (results!)
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:31:02 -0400

The 'recommended bands' listing is about to go up at
http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html. To the people who've already
responded, thanks very much. So far I'm taking the fact you don't object to
your email address being used as consent- if you want your email address
concealed again, write back.

Anyway, to the rest of you, please add your voice to those already raised
(rather prosaic, that) even if you want to add to a band already
well-represented. The page will be best if loads of people add to it.

Cheers, and thanks for the effort,

Paul Mison    [e-mail]
(who ought to repost the criterion, but it was only last week- email me if
you're mystified).

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From: [e-mail] (Violette)
Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ?
Date: 14 Oct 1996 17:41:45 GMT

On Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:59:01 BST, you wrote:

>
>>As a newcomer i'd like to hello everybody on the list!
>
    Greetings.
>
>>so i'd like to know how this kind of music is called.=20

    Usually, in my opinion, it's all kinds of techno glued
together.  Trance, ambient, house- those kinds mainly. This band is
originally known for the feeling you get when you listen to their
music. Try listening to Halcyon or Adnan's, you'll see what I mean.

>>Does anybody know any similar bands?
>
I don't know that many, but I heard Chemical Brothers and the Future
Sound of London sound familiar. But again, you'll never find a band
that sounds exactly like them. It's very hard.

                            Violette
                        [e-mail]


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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Request for info (results!)
Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:04:01 -0700

hey paul,
 just went to the site nice job,it gave me a couple of "new" artists for me
to check out.i'm sure i speak for all when i say thanks for your time and
effort in making this possible,
mick george

> The 'recommended bands' listing is about to go up at
> http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html. To the people who've already
> responded, thanks very much. So far I'm taking the fact you don't object
to
> your email address being used as consent- if you want your email address
> concealed again, write back.
>
> Anyway, to the rest of you, please add your voice to those already raised
> (rather prosaic, that) even if you want to add to a band already
> well-represented. The page will be best if loads of people add to it.


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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Returned mail: User unknown
Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:08:50 -0700

 sorry to all,
 this is to steve price,
 maybe this is why your not getting mailing's steve?
 mick

> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[e-mail]>
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
> > Date: Monday, October 14, 1996 8:19 AM
> >
> > The original message was received at Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:19:21 -0700
> > from bos-ma12-22.ix.netcom.com [199.183.202.214]
> >
> >    ----- The following addresses had delivery problems -----
> > <[e-mail]>  (unrecoverable error)
>> > hi steve how's things?did you recieve the cd?you should have by
now,what
> do
> > you think?i saw from one of your mailings that two boston tracks will
be
> on
> > the live ep alright!anyway drop me a line,
> > mick
> >

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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Orbital MIDI files???
Date: 14 Oct 1996 11:30:56 -0700 (PDT)

>     Well, my brother has done sequences of a few songs on his
> equipment, but I don't think much of it is in MIDI. He could probably
> translate it over into general MIDI if anyone is that interested. I mean,
> it wouldn't be exact, but It could be pretty close. Most of the beats and
> such would be pretty close, it'd just be up to whoever to find voices that
> sounded good..

I'm interested.  Can you let me know if he does it?

thanks,

ajay

Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma         |    -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=-
[e-mail]             |       Internet Services
[e-mail]                |      data:  [phone]
http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/   |     voice:  [phone]


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From: [e-mail] (Crash Pango)
Subject: Trippin ohio
Date: 14 Oct 1996 15:04:10 -0500

        To all that I haven't met - cheers for the USA - I just joined the
listing this morning - yet I've been a fan since the beginning!  For my
friends Lucia and Paul from Sunscreem I would like to add a group for those
of you that hit Orbital.  Suncreem brings a definite pure meaning to ultra
environment dance music.  Their new albums "Change or Die" & "New Dark
Times" bring an ethereal experience to lose yourself in the music.
Sunscreem is much like orbital with a kick of angelic vocals.   To those
who are curious about Sunscreem land on their website at
http://www.sunscreem.co.uk     - Crash Pango



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From: aaron <[e-mail]>
Subject: making music
Date: 14 Oct 1996 14:49:07 -0500

i know this may be a little off topic, but ever since i began listening
to electronic music, i have been keenly interesting in making my own..
just experimenting.. never planned on getting anything released.  but
lately i've gotten myself tied up in my work and have not been able to
research it. i was just wondering if anyone out there had any info they
could give me on equipment, previous knowledge required, etc.. personal
knowledge/experience or just web pages would be great.. thank you very
much all.. talk at you later.

        aaron

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From: Jonathan Wayne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ?
Date: 14 Oct 1996 18:08:27 -0500

> I don't know that many, but I heard Chemical Brothers and the Future
> Sound of London sound familiar. But again, you'll never find a band
> that sounds exactly like them. It's very hard.

correct as you say. no other band out there quite can match the
originality of orbital. to put it in one way, orbital is orbital ,
bottomline. want to argue, no prob, just email me.

jonathan
u.s. orbitaler orbiting u.s.


[e-mail]
========== =========== ==================
http://www.netcom.com/~jwayne2/index.html
========== =========== ==================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ?
Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:36:57 GMT


>Not too sure....most mags ive seen describe it as Intelligent Techo or
>Alternative Techno. Hard to say...there music trends are constantly=20
>changing but always hugging the Techno aspect of things.

I would call it intelligent techno

>>Does anybody know any similar bands?
>
>Again...i dont know anyone who touched Orbital in the complex looping =
way=20
>that Orbital create their tracks. Personally i have a lot of time for =
LFO,=20
>HIA, APhex Twin (selected tracks), Vapourspace and a few others. But =
they=20
>are not much alike with Orbital.

try CJ Bolland's "Electronic Highway" album, on R&S records, a few of
the trax sound quite Orbital-esque.



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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ?
Date: 14 Oct 1996 20:00:17 -0700

poltergiest's vicious circle come's pretty close i think :)

>>Does anybody know any similar bands?
>
>Again...i dont know anyone who touched Orbital in the complex looping way
>that Orbital create their tracks. Personally i have a lot of time for LFO,

>HIA, APhex Twin (selected tracks), Vapourspace and a few others. But they
>are not much alike with Orbital.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Orbital MIDI files???
Date: 15 Oct 1996 00:25:43 -0400 (EDT)

On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Ajay Sharma wrote:

> >     Well, my brother has done sequences of a few songs on his
> > equipment, but I don't think much of it is in MIDI. He could probably
> > translate it over into general MIDI if anyone is that interested. I mean,
> > it wouldn't be exact, but It could be pretty close. Most of the beats and
> > such would be pretty close, it'd just be up to whoever to find voices that
> > sounded good..
>
> I'm interested.  Can you let me know if he does it?

    I'll talk to him tomorrow & see if I can get him to convert his
sequences to GM. Do you know anything about the new MIDI law and how it
would apply here? (or if it would in any way). I wanna make sure that his
reproductions in a MIDI format wouldn't be some kind of horrible copyright
violation.

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: What does God say?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 00:33:56 -0400 (EDT)

I just saw a CD in the store I work in tonight and picked it up
immediately. I picked it up because of the FFRR sticker on it, and
discovered that it has a version of Are We Here? on it that was "sequenced
in Vapourspace" according to the sticker on the front. It's a jungle
compilation called 'Counterforce'. I was just wondering if anyone else is
familiar with this version. It says it was 'previously unavailable'. Of
course, that's early '95 when this CD came out... It's a pretty kickin'
remix, considering (as i must assume the vapourspace reference was
correct) that it was not done by the brothers.

On another note, I *think* that I have collected (not out of any
overwhelming intent) ever 'official' recording of Halcyon that has been
released. I have:

1. Halcyon single
2. Orbital 2 (brown album)
3. MK soundtrack
4. Hackers soundtrack
5. Live promo video

I figured since I've come this far, I should at least find out if there
are any more..


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:LIVE EP - The latest!
Date: 15 Oct 1996 00:00:46 -0500

>>I would kill to hear out there some where live!  (I love those tracks)
>>Steve... Pull somo strings! LOL:)
>
>Its sounds brilliant live just as good as the studio version.
>I think we shall definatly be having IMPACT on the cd now.
>As soon as i find out more....ill shall let you have it!

     Very Cool!!!!   we wnat out ther some where!  we want out ther some
where... etc.!
      :)  LOL!

>Steve
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>HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ
>DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
>LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ
>
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Gustav Aagesen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Yellow album
Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:22:29 +0100 (MET)


Ok. Im a bit colorblind the Yellow album I bought yesterday was in fack
yellow, not green.

My question is what is track 11 called, the one after Belfast ?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:CIN Rules for Chart Eligibility (c)1995
Date: 14 Oct 1996 21:38:10 BST



< >I also have the album rules....if any one is interested!

>go on then
>Jon Green: [e-mail]

Damn....knew someone would ask ;)   Ok here goes:-

Albums
LP/Cassette    Dealer Price    Playing Time
(Budget)    0.50 to 2.69     Over 25 minuter or more than 4 tracks.
(Mid Price)    2.70 to 3.69    ditto
(Full Price)    3.70 or over    ditto

CD/DCC/MD
(Budget)    0.50 to 4.24    ditto
(Mid Price)    4.25 to 5.99     ditto
(Full Price)    6.00 or over    ditto

Taken from the TIMES FLY press release BTW.

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine.
Sig not here!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Wow! Orbital is Everywhere!
Date: 14 Oct 1996 21:42:33 BST


>BTW: There has been a lot of talk about SATAN, is it on a CD, or on a
>concert alb./single, Its so darn difficult to get Orbital stuff where I
>live.

Its available on as an EP with SATAN, LC1 and BELFAST.
It will be available live....sooonish.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Orbital Zine.
sig away!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Trippin ohio
Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:03:29 BST

I would disagree with Sunscream and Orbital being similar, BUT
i do like Sunscream and have one album by them (the one with the Kennedy
track on). Seems like they disappeared off the earth though.
Sunscream recommended!

Still welcome to the Orbital mailing List.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine.

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail] (Crash Pango)
         To all that I haven't met - cheers for the USA - I just joined
the
listing this morning - yet I've been a fan since the beginning!  For my
friends Lucia and Paul from Sunscreem I would like to add a group for
those
of you that hit Orbital.  Suncreem brings a definite pure meaning to ultra
environment dance music.  Their new albums "Change or Die" & "New Dark
Times" bring an ethereal experience to lose yourself in the music.
Sunscreem is much like orbital with a kick of angelic vocals.   To those
who are curious about Sunscreem land on their website at
http://www.sunscreem.co.uk     - Crash Pango



=====================================================================

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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What does God say?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 10:02:54 +0000

> I just saw a CD in the store I work in tonight and picked it up
> immediately. I picked it up because of the FFRR sticker on it, and
> discovered that it has a version of Are We Here? on it that was "sequenced
> in Vapourspace" according to the sticker on the front. It's a jungle
> compilation called 'Counterforce'. I was just wondering if anyone else is

This is kinda spooky. Paul gave a mate of mine a compilation album of
the same name, because of a track called 'Disturbance' by the Hyper
On Experience (the best piece of d'n'b in existence, I reckon). Only
thing is, I don't remeber there being any remixed Orbital on board. Is
the cover a sort of mock-Manga styled effort with lots of Japanese
characters on it? If so, I'd better root it out and have a listen  to
the other tracks again...

yan


Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Kind of Music is Orbital ?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:12:00 +0200

Some stuff on the brown album and on the diversion EP sound
exactly as the goa trance which was made around 1994.
Just listen to Order Odonata 1 from Dragonfly and you'll
know what I mean.

Sigbjorn - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Yellow album
Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:03:15 BST

Its known as the Yellow or Green or even been called Orange.
I call it Untitled I just to confuse matters more ;)

Track 11 on the CD is called Aint that Disgusting (I think...You can
always check at  my web site which is slowly building the Orbital
Discography). It is NOW java enhanced slighty....im still working on
it...and im ILL.

Cheers

Steve
  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
  |     |   | |   | |   |   /
  |     |   | |   | ___/   /
 _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
             Price
CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (Updated with JAVA)
DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Gustav Aagesen <[e-mail]>

Ok. Im a bit colorblind the Yellow album I bought yesterday was in fack
yellow, not green.

My question is what is track 11 called, the one after Belfast ?



=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:What does God say?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:14:23 BST



> I just saw a CD in the store I work in tonight and picked it up
>immediately. I picked it up because of the FFRR sticker on it, and
>discovered that it has a version of Are We Here? on it that was
>"sequenced in Vapourspace" according to the sticker on the front. It's a
>jungle compilation called 'Counterforce'. I was just wondering if anyone
>else is familiar with this version. It says it was 'previously
>unavailable'.

I think it appeared on the Limited double 12 of Are We Are....cant
remember of hand! I like Vapourspace a lot....but always prefer the
original Orbital tracks to any remixers.
BTW Vapourspace are another well educated group!

>On another note, I *think* that I have collected (not out of any
>overwhelming intent) ever 'official' recording of Halcyon that has been
>released. I have:

>1. Halcyon single
>2. Orbital 2 (brown album)
>3. MK soundtrack
>4. Hackers soundtrack
>5. Live promo video

Mmmm....id say there has only ever been 2 official releases of Halycon.
Halycon and Halycon + on + on. You could bring the edits etc into the
eqaution....but only two versions have been released by the boyz.
The Hackers and Mortal Kombat are both edits really of the original(s).
As for the live promo...got to tell you this....keep hold of it....its
rare. Its part of the Trupak set....if you have the whole of it....limited
compilation cd of orbital tracks...then again keep it under lock and key.

It was recorded at Glastonbury. Id say if you really want to extend your
Halycon collection go for the live tracks. 1 with Belinda Sample and 1
with Bon Jovi and Belinda Sample. Also try and get the Oscillate version
from 1993 which is also live and represents the Brown release perfect.

Cheers

Steve
  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
  |     |   | |   | |   |   /
  |     |   | |   | ___/   /
 _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
             Price
CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ (enhanced with JAVA)
DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ
I figured since I've come this far, I should at least find out if there
are any more..


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


=====================================================================

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Yellow album
Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:54:11 +0000

At 12:03 15/10/96 BST, [e-mail] wrote:
>Its known as the Yellow or Green or even been called Orange.
>I call it Untitled I just to confuse matters more ;)
>
>Track 11 on the CD is called Aint that Disgusting

'I think its disgusting', I reckon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: Sanjay Arora <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: What does God say?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 07:59:37 -0400

I've got the same Counterforce Compilation (the one with the Samurai guy
on the cover) and it does have Orbital as the last song (the best for
last, as they say).  I picked mine up in the States, maybe that has
something to do with it.
BTW, for those of you into d'n'b...the comp is pretty cool.
-Sanjay
>
>This is kinda spooky. Paul gave a mate of mine a compilation album of
>the same name, because of a track called 'Disturbance' by the Hyper
>On Experience (the best piece of d'n'b in existence, I reckon). Only
>thing is, I don't remeber there being any remixed Orbital on board. Is
>the cover a sort of mock-Manga styled effort with lots of Japanese
>characters on it? If so, I'd better root it out and have a listen  to
>the other tracks again...
>
>yan
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
>Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:An IRC session ?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 13:35:13 BST

There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? Yes?

General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we will
form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other
countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ?

Personally if we get enough....it would be a laugh....well might be!

What do you think ?

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Orbital Zine.
blah blah blah :)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:More NEWS!
Date: 15 Oct 1996 13:41:23 BST

Bit of news i havent announced as yet....again ive been told i can mention
this....and there is still a lot i cant say yet!

Everyone in the UK would have heard of Jools Holland....hell even the rest
 of you guys/girls might have done. Well Jools has a show on UK BBC2 with
live performances...and its 99 percentage sure that Orbital will be doing
a live track b4 Christmas. The track WILL be SATAN (confirmed) but the
negotiating is taking place over what time is allocated to them.
At the mo...Jools allows 6 minutes for a group (about 2 tracks for the
usual indie stuff!) but he is extending that to 8 minutes.

Hopefully over the next week ill know if this is Definately on.

Other things happening....mentioned about Sally Harding....yknow about the
Live Ep (only just mentioned on the Official site ;)    ). Also Paul is
hoping to agree terms for a remix on a Sci Fi Theme Tune Compilation
Album. The track Paul mentioned to me he was considering doing was U.F.O.
Star Trek had already gone.

Thats ALL for now.

BTW someone mentioned FSOL and "My Kingdom" - Im playing it now and its a
brilliant EP - very themey (just like Orbital) but of course not like
Orbital. Recommended.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.
ORbital Zine,.

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From: aaron <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: An IRC session ?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 09:06:46 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? Yes?
>
> General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we will
> form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other
> countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ?
>
> Personally if we get enough....it would be a laugh....well might be!
>
> What do you think ?
>
> Steve LOOPZ Price.
> Orbital Zine.
> blah blah blah :)

if we did decide to do an IRC chat with the brothers, the channel would
definately (sp?) have to be set at +m (for all non-IRCers, that means
only the channel operators can talk).. otherwise, the channel will be
flooded with everyone's questions and comments at the same time... big
mess and nothing get's done.. we'd have to set up some sort of "raise
your hand to speak" kinda thing.. just a thought...

        aaron

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From: "Andrew Richard Cooper" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Trippin ohio -Reply
Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:56:00 -500 (EST)

>>> orbital 10/14/96 04:03pm >>>
I would disagree with Sunscream and Orbital being similar, BUT
i do like Sunscream and have one album by them (the one with the
Kennedy
track on). Seems like they disappeared off the earth though.
Sunscream recommended!
>>>

Sunscreem Did anything but fall off the face of the earth. If you are die
hard screemer you would realize that they have more albums out. Thier
newest album that was limited to 1,000 copies is the most incredible thing
from them yet.  I would agree with Crash Pango that both orbital and
sunscreem have similar sounds.

Serial Killer



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From: "Andrew Richard Cooper" <[e-mail]>
Subject: What does God say? -Reply
Date: 15 Oct 1996 12:59:00 -500 (EST)



>>> Esme Weatherwax 10/14/96 11:33pm >>>
On another note, I *think* that I have collected (not out of any
overwhelming intent) ever 'official' recording of Halcyon that has been
released. I have:

4. Hackers soundtrack
>>>>

Where did you find the soundtrack to hacker? I have been looking for that
for a long time. I thought that it was the most incredible soundtrack to a
most awsome movie. I would love to get it. Please let me know.

Serial Killer

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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What does God say? -Reply
Date: 15 Oct 1996 13:14:55 -0700

> 4. Hackers soundtrack
> >>>>
>
> Where did you find the soundtrack to hacker? I have been looking for that
> for a long time. I thought that it was the most incredible soundtrack to
a
> most awsome movie. I would love to get it. Please let me know.
>
> Serial Killer
what tracks are on this?
mick

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From: [e-mail] (Crash Pango)
Subject: Hackers??
Date: 15 Oct 1996 15:42:40 -0500

>> 4. Hackers soundtrack
>> >>>>
>>
>> Where did you find the soundtrack to hacker? I have been looking for that
>> for a long time. I thought that it was the most incredible soundtrack to
>a
>> most awsome movie. I would love to get it. Please let me know.
>>
>> Serial Killer
>what tracks are on this?
>mick

---#Mick# --Assuming that there is a soundtrack to Hackers for sale (might
I add I can't find heads or tales of it being tfor sale) - songs and groups
such as The Prodigy "Voodoo People", Leftfield- 2 songs of Leftism album,
Underworld "Cowgirl", Orbital "Halcyon + on + on", The Squeeze and a few
others.  It's a most killer movie and a must for Techno fans and Hackers
alike.  I've kept my eye out to see when it's released on video - well you
can get it on laserdisc right now but it's going to be a bit on the VHS.

-- For those who think Sunscreems dead let me rephrase something.  Their O3
album with the kennedy stuff on it is far from orbital.  Change or Die
which came out in early 96 is closer and New Dark Times which came out a
week ago is unbelievably like Orbital but on a more clean air environment ,
nothing to ground on just water and air. But Fuck we're here to talk about
Orbital - I was just trying to get that Sunscreem stuff on the web site at
AOL.COM - I obviously screewed something up.  Anyone know about still being
able to grab a copy of the Lush 3.1 Single?? - sorry to say I didn't know
there was one, but now I do and I want it.

--I hear this Josh Wink dude does killer programing - anyone heard him? and
is his stuff worth the money??

Talk to Crash



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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: CD lengths
Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:04:33 -0600 (MDT)

> The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the
> staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single.

The "Blue Room" singles pressed then-current chart timing rules to the limit
by having the version with no B-sides run 40:00 exactly, and the version with
a B-side run 25:00 exactly.

Of course, in Germany they just threw all the tracks from both formats onto
a single CD that ran 65 minutes . . .

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hackers??
Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:09:11 -0600 (MDT)

As posted here a while back by Gordon Hundley, the Hackers soundtrack
is as follows:

    Hackers, Edel Cinerama, edel 0022562CIN

    1. Original Bedroom Rockers, Kruder & Dorfmeister
    2. Cowgirl, Underworld
    3. Voodoo People, Prodigy
    4. Open Up, Leftfield
    5. Phoebus Apollo, Carl Cox
    6. The Joker, Josh Abrahams
    7. Halcyon & On & On, Orbital
    8. Communicate (Headqake Crazy Cloud Mix), Plastico
    9. One Love, Prodigy
    10. Connected, Stereo MCs
    11. Eyes, Lips, Body (Mekon Vocal Mix), Ramshackle
    12. Good Grief, Urban Dance Squad
    13. Richest Junkie Still Alive (Sank Remix), Machines Of Loving Grace
    14. Heaven Knows, Squeeze

I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't
seen it in the shops.

--
::: Lazlo ([e-mail]; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

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From: "Christian \"Diddle\" Behnke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:19:06 -0700

At 02:09 PM 15/10/96 -0600, you wrote:

>I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't
>seen it in the shops.

The Hacker Sountrack is KILLER!

Well, it's available in Canada so it should be avail. in the US - but if
they don't have it at one peticular store, ask for it.

Diddle Out.


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Rowe)
Subject: Re: CIN Rules for Chart Eligibility (c)1995
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:36:16 GMT

On Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:41:03 BST, you wrote:

><grin>
>Product    Format        Dealer     Price    Playing Time
>
>Singles    7-inch        Min    0.50    20 mins or less & nomore than 4
>                    tracks
>    Cass Tape    Min    1.20    ditto
>
>    Cass Tapes    Min    1.99    ditto
>                    OR
>    12-inch        Min    1.99    if only one title (any no of     CD
>    Min    2.42    mixes) is used a limit of 40
>        minutes is applicable.

I think the prices must have changed a little bit recently, since a
few bands/companies have been releasing CD singles at 99p in a
desparate bid for chart action (Boo Radleys, Rocket From The Crypt
etc).
>
>Hope that sums up the brilliant rules we have in the Uk about chart
>releases. I cannot stand the charts!!!!!!
>
>I also have the album rules....if any one is interested!

Yes, I would be interested actually!

Apologies to all those non-British readers - we have bloody weird
rules over here.

Cheers,
Rich
>
>Steve
>  |      _ \   _ \   _ \ __  /
>  |     |   | |   | |   |   /
>  |     |   | |   | ___/   /
> _____|\___/ \___/ _|    ____|
>             Price
>CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
>HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ
>DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
>LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ
>


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Rowe)
Subject: Re: CD lengths
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:36:10 GMT

On Mon, 14 Oct 96 12:35:32 BST, you wrote:

>
>
>>I just bought the new Future Sound Of London release (My Kingdom). This
>>has 5 'parts' which add up to around half an hour of music but as you
>>say this is ok because they are all versions of each other.
>
>Is it eligable for the charts though ?
>i like FSOL a lot as well....weird and wonderful

Yes - it'll be eligible for the charts okay.  Bought it myself today;
really rather good and comes recommended from me.  I too like FSOL,
especially Papua New Guineau & the last EP, Far Out Son...

>>The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the
>>staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. This is all one track but
>>it was repressed as a radio edit and a slightly shortened origianl edit.
>
>It was about 40 odd minutes i think. This was also released just before
>the rulings changed. I shall post the rulings in the next mailmessage

Yep, I too thought it was about 38 mins (I've not been able to find it
anywhere to buy, apart from a ú13 import...).

Sorry for talking about so much non-Orbital stuff!

Steve, great news about the two CD singles - Impact'd be great, though
I suppose Halcyon as well would be asking just a little too much? :)
Don't get me wrong, I do like Out There Somewhere, but I think there's
better stuff!  Sorry!


Cheers,
Rich

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: An IRC session ?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:44:45 GMT


>There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? =
Yes?
>
>General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we =
will=20
>form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other=20
>countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ?

I'm all for it, we need a day and a time to meet every week on channel
#orbital

we had an IRC on the Happy list, but no-one can remember what time to
meet up so it sort of fizzled out - the same will probably happen here
but It doesn't matter.
right, how about Sunday 8.00pm GMT on channel #orbital
=20

 =20


 ___________________  ______  ___________   ___
|            /      \|      \|      \    | |   |
|____     __|        |       |       |   |_|   |
     |   |  |        |       |       |__     __|
     |   |  |        |       |       |  |   |
     |___|   \______/|______/|______/   |___|

                             =20
     =20

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From: Lister <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: An IRC session ?
Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:42:53 +0100

> right, how about Sunday 8.00pm GMT on channel #orbital
>
I agree...
--
The net is lovely, bright and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And sites to surf before I sleep,
And sites to surf before I sleep...
    LISTER


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From: "24 HR. SERVICE STATION" <[e-mail]>
Subject: OST Hackers in USA
Date: 15 Oct 1996 18:59:39 -0400

>
> Well, it's available in Canada so it should be avail. in the US - but if
> they don't have it at one peticular store, ask for it.

I just saw it at Blockbuster Music and they even had it on the listening post in the front of the store!!!

POWER TO THE TEKKIES !!!

--
audio,

Marshall Dickson

24 HR. SERVICE STATION
http://24HR.com     [e-mail]

Box 82036
Tampa, FL 33682
813-806-9110
_______________________http://24HR.com

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From: scott <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 15 Oct 1996 17:36:46 -0800

I have the video tape of hackers......
it's a great video... I know in the U.S. you can buy it at any video
store....

the soundtrack on the otherhand.... I haven't been able to find any info
about the soundtrack...

scott

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: re:An IRC session ?
Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:46:17 -0500

At 01:35 PM 10/15/96 BST, you wrote:
>There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? Yes?
>
>General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we will
>form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other
>countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ?
>
>Personally if we get enough....it would be a laugh....well might be!
>
>What do you think ?

I think it's a GREAT idea!  But before we arrange the date and all, let's
try to nail down a place where we know we can all get to.  In the past my
friends and I have had troubles getting on uk.undernet.org but maybe that
was because we we're doing something wrong.  Any americans out there have
any luck logging onto IRC at undernet.uk.org?


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:51:04 -0500

>--I hear this Josh Wink dude does killer programing - anyone heard him? and
>is his stuff worth the money??

Well I don't exactly know what "killer programming" is (but I'd like to
know) but his music is ok. Not great, not bad.  Seems to me the guy is
stuck in yesteryear.

BTW, the chick in Hackers is hot.


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:53:45 -0500

>I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't
>seen it in the shops.

Oh, it's all over the place here.  The soundtrack isn't so great.  Don't
care much for Prodigy I'm afraid.
http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Hackers and P.E.T.R.O.L.
Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:57:03 -0500

Just thought you all should know, the big video game the guy is playing in
the movie is a Silicon Graphics (think Jurassic Park) enhanced version of
Wipeout, the Sony Playstation game which featured the Orbital track,
P.E.T.R.O.L.


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From: Wesley Eccleston <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 15 Oct 1996 20:23:30 -0800 (PST)



On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote:

> >I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't
> >seen it in the shops.
>
> Oh, it's all over the place here.  The soundtrack isn't so great.  Don't
> care much for Prodigy I'm afraid.
> http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm

Got the movie and cd, they both rule. Even the Prodigy.
Guess I should be more thankful for what we DO have here in Canada.
-wesleyeccleston.

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From: "Christian `Diddle' Behnke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:28:08 -0700

At 08:23 PM 15/10/96 -0800, you wrote:

(Making reference to "Hackers"):

>Got the movie and cd, they both rule. Even the Prodigy.
>Guess I should be more thankful for what we DO have here in Canada.
>-wesleyeccleston.

Yeah, but we sure get a hell of a lot of stuff here (in Canada), but each
country gets different stuff...

"Gawd muzac sure brings da world tuhgether!"

Diddle <Loving His Orbital CD's to Bitz> out.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What does God say?
Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:35:57 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Yan wrote:

> This is kinda spooky. Paul gave a mate of mine a compilation album of
> the same name, because of a track called 'Disturbance' by the Hyper
> On Experience (the best piece of d'n'b in existence, I reckon). Only
> thing is, I don't remeber there being any remixed Orbital on board. Is
> the cover a sort of mock-Manga styled effort with lots of Japanese
> characters on it? If so, I'd better root it out and have a listen  to
> the other tracks again...

    Well, track 2 on my Counterforce CD is 'Disturbance' by "Hyper on
the Experience". In fact, I'm listening to it now. Track 13 is 'Are We
Here?"

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:What does God say?
Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:40:23 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 [e-mail] wrote:
> I think it appeared on the Limited double 12 of Are We Are....cant
> remember of hand! I like Vapourspace a lot....but always prefer the
> original Orbital tracks to any remixers.
> BTW Vapourspace are another well educated group!

    Cool, I was just wondering. I think it's pretty decent for a
non-orbital remix..

> Mmmm....id say there has only ever been 2 official releases of Halycon.
> Halycon and Halycon + on + on. You could bring the edits etc into the
> eqaution....but only two versions have been released by the boyz.
> The Hackers and Mortal Kombat are both edits really of the original(s).
> As for the live promo...got to tell you this....keep hold of it....its
> rare. Its part of the Trupak set....if you have the whole of it....limited
> compilation cd of orbital tracks...then again keep it under lock and key.
> It was recorded at Glastonbury. Id say if you really want to extend your
> Halycon collection go for the live tracks. 1 with Belinda Sample and 1
> with Bon Jovi and Belinda Sample. Also try and get the Oscillate version
> from 1993 which is also live and represents the Brown release perfect.

Actually, I think the hackers and mk versions are identical to the
'halcyon + on + on' on the brown album. ANd I do have the whole trupak.
Not still sealed or anything, but I have the CD and the video. I bought
the CD from some guy that sells used CD's here for $6 and he gave me the
video for free with it.  I have no idea how he got ahold of it.

> halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
> supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
> winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
>       <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
>           2. Prosperous; golden.
>
>
> =====================================================================
>

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:An IRC session ?
Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:42:20 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 15 Oct 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> There are loads of us out there who wouldnt mind a meet up and chat ? Yes?
> General view here....does anybody want to pick a date and time and we will
> form a channel on Uk.Undernet.Org (There are US etc for the other
> countries) called ORBITAL and meet there ?
> Personally if we get enough....it would be a laugh....well might be!

    Sounds like a good idea to me...If I can only figure out how to
IRC on this system..

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What does God say? -Reply
Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:45:34 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Andrew Richard Cooper wrote:

> Where did you find the soundtrack to hacker? I have been looking for that
> for a long time. I thought that it was the most incredible soundtrack to a
> most awsome movie. I would love to get it. Please let me know.

    Well, it came out in Europe in like April, but wasn't released
here until June, when it promptly became utterly unavailable for the next
2 months. I got it at Blockbuster Music here in CHapel Hill, where I work.


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What does God say? -Reply
Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:47:25 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, michael george wrote:

> what tracks are on this?
> mick

Lesse, it's got halcyon + on + on, 'cowgirl' by underworld (my fave
underworld song), stereo mc's, 2 prodigy songs, leftfield, machines of
loving grace, urban dance squad, squeeze, josh abrahams, plastico, i think
that's *about it, maybe a couple more..

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:49:33 -0400 (EDT)

It's definitely out. It's actually a featured selection on the listening
stations in the store I work at.

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: OST Hackers in USA
Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:51:35 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, 24 HR. SERVICE STATION wrote:

> >
> > Well, it's available in Canada so it should be avail. in the US - but if
> > they don't have it at one peticular store, ask for it.
>
> I just saw it at Blockbuster Music and they even had it on the listening post in the front of the store!!!
>
> POWER TO THE TEKKIES !!!

    That's what I said... <grin>

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 16 Oct 1996 01:14:56 -0400

     I also was on a mission to find that album (I live in Detoit ,MI), and I
did about a month ago.  So it should be readily avail. soon.  Anyway here are
some specs:

          Hackers
  1. Original Bedroom Rockers- Hruder & Dorfmiester
  2. Cowgirl- Underworld
  3. Vodoo People- Prodigy
  4. Open Up- Leftfield                                  CD# is:  edel
0029872edl
  5. Pheobus Apollo- Carl Cox                    There is an url here too!
  6. The Joker- Josh Abrahams                   http://www.uip.com
  7. Halcyon & On & On- Orbital                  Call 1-800-mgm-5805 to order
direct.
  8. Communicate- Plastico                         $16.99
  9. One Love- Prodigy                                 (You'll have to
navigate some stuff on
  10. Connected- Stereo MC's                        the websight to get to
the good stuff:)
  11. Eyes, Lips, Body- Ramshackle
  12. Good Grief- Urban Dance Squad
  13. Richest Junkie Still Alive- Machines of Loving Grace
  14. Heaven Know- Squeeze

        Hope this helps everyone;)


                          DJRavery Communications

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Hackers??
Date: 16 Oct 1996 9:25:14 BST



>Assuming that there is a soundtrack to Hackers for sale (might
>I add I can't find heads or tales of it being tfor sale)

There definately is a soundtrack out....ill try and find the cat number.
Incidentally you can get the Halcyon (MortalKombat/Hackers version) on a
free tape from Empire magazine (this month).

>-- For those who think Sunscreems dead let me rephrase something.  Their
>O3 album with the kennedy stuff on it is far from orbital.  Change or Die
>which came out in early 96 is closer and New Dark Times which came out a
>week ago is unbelievably like Orbital but on a more clean air environment
Speaking as a UK person. Sunscream biggest album WAS 03 and as you say
absolutely nothing like Orbital. Whether the new stuff is , is another
matter. I shall look out for it (the newest one) no doubt.

>Anyone know about still being able to grab a copy of the Lush 3.1
Single??

There are plenty knocking about....you should be able to get it on import
for sure.

Cheers

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: CD lengths
Date: 16 Oct 1996 9:34:35 BST


>>i like FSOL a lot as well....weird and wonderful

>Yes - it'll be eligible for the charts okay.  Bought it myself today;
>really rather good and comes recommended from me.  I too like FSOL,
>especially Papua New Guineau & the last EP, Far Out Son...

Excellent they are...ive boought MY KINGDOM and its the best stuff they
have done in a long time....excellent.


>Steve, great news about the two CD singles - Impact'd be great, though
>I suppose Halcyon as well would be asking just a little too much? :)
>Don't get me wrong, I do like Out There Somewhere, but I think there's
>better stuff!  Sorry!

I agree in a way...the trouble with OUT THERE SOMEWHERE is that it would
take a big chunk of the CD. I really do think its one of their best works
especially live.
Impact im sure is gonna make it....i know Paul/Phil were a bit dodgy about
releasing Halcyon (im playing it live at Boston now....shame!) because of
the joke element of BJ and BC. Hopefully i will know more over the next
two days. Im off to London , most likely for a swift couple with Paul and
Jones (the press man).
Incidentally ...sod it....ill do it as a new post...i need ALL of your
help.

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Trippin ohio -Reply
Date: 16 Oct 1996 9:15:20 BST



>Sunscreem Did anything but fall off the face of the earth. If you are die
>hard screemer you would realize that they have more albums out.

Errmmm....did i say i was a die hard screamer (wheres my lawer!) ;)

They are not as big in the UK as they were say 2 years ago. Hence the
/where did they go/ question .

Njoi

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:An IRC session ?
Date: 16 Oct 1996 9:42:48 BST

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:What does God say?
Date: 16 Oct 1996 10:02:18 BST

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Request - INFO
Date: 16 Oct 1996 10:16:10 BST

Ok...i need ALL of your help.

As some may already know , Myself and jones (press-man and designer of the
Diversions sleeve...read the inlay) are collating the ultimate Orbital
Discography. It will be printed in Record Collecter and somewhere else
(cant remember DOH!).
What we need is any foriegn released Orbital stuff , even compilation
stuff , remixes , anything really. If you own a foriegn release of Orbital
then please can you send me the Record Company name / Catalogue number
(found on cd/12/tape) and track information (times is possible).
All these will be imputted into the already ridiculous large database of
Orbital stuff. This will then printed in the magazines and on my web site
in about a months time (if we complete it by then).

Remember only NON-UK releases...anything goes and you will credited on my
web site for your contribution. Send to me PERSONALLY not on the list
please. And also can you put DISCOG in the SUBJECT field to help me sort
them out.

MAny thanks in advance....get your name in lights!

Steve
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From: Samuel Wormleighton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: CD lengths
Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:19:05 +0100 (BST)



Ok, I'll clear up this Orb mess and then we can all get back on topic
Suppose.

> >>The orb are the current holders of the 'Longest Record' with the
> >>staageringly long (73mins?) blue room single. This is all one track but
> >>it was repressed as a radio edit and a slightly shortened origianl edit=
=2E
> >
> >It was about 40 odd minutes i think. This was also released just before=
=20
> >the rulings changed. I shall post the rulings in the next mailmessage
>=20
> Yep, I too thought it was about 38 mins (I've not been able to find it
> anywhere to buy, apart from a =A313 import...).

The version I have is the PROMO version which was the full 73 minute mix
(I have since checked). The Version that got released and charted (thus
causing all the fuss) is probably around the 40mins mark as this has
proved to be a popular guess.

I bought my mix for 5.00ukp from a second hand shop but as you say this
record can prove expensive. The Uk release has a rarthre funky fold out
cardboard case which sits in a cardboard sleave but watch out as the dyes
used in the printing on this case have been known to corrode the CD badly
and make it jump all over the place.


Right, now I think we'll get back to Orbital.

Does anyone know who does the video footage for the concerts? Do the guys
themselves have a hand in it of does some out of house company produce
them? I ask because I've been really impressed by thier use of video
screens and flicking slides etc....

Also when they played in Manchester they errected a tower in the middle of
the dance floor and played from this, with the crowd all around them. I
personlly rate this as a high percentage of the orbital experiance but I
heard that they've been prevented from doing this at some venus for safety
reasons. Can anyone confirm this and if so which shows should we be
avoiding?

Sam..,..


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Question time
Date: 16 Oct 1996 13:01:40 BST


>Does anyone know who does the video footage for the concerts?

I can get the names...but they are VERY busy.

>Do the guys themselves have a hand in it of does some out of house
>company produce them?

Orbital dont really have much to do with it....just input. Its an
individual company (very small though).

>I ask because I've been really impressed by thier use of video
>screens and flicking slides etc....

Nice .... esp SATAN.

>Also when they played in Manchester they errected a tower in the middle
>of the dance floor and played from this, with the crowd all around them.
Was this Sniv tour ?
I thinks it was.... They did it at most venues on the Sniv tour.

>I personlly rate this as a high percentage of the orbital experiance but
>I heard that they've been prevented from doing this at some venus for
>safety reasons. Can anyone confirm this and if so which shows should we
>be avoiding?

Mmmm...dont think they do the tower routine any more so i wouldnt worry.

Cheers

Steve LOOPz Price.
ORital Zine.
(havent got time for the sig.)


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From: Sanjay Arora <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Hackers??
Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:00:24 -0400

I saw the soundtrack in stores here in the states as soon as the movie
came out.  Every time I go to the store I see it.
Go figure.
BTW, I know it's off topic, but I just picked up the Wipeout XL
soundtrack and it's FANTASTIC!!!  There is nothing on it that you can't
get somewhere else, but it's cool to have it all on one disc.
Later,
Sanjay


>----------
>From:     Christian "Diddle" Behnke[SMTP:[e-mail]]
>Sent:      October 15, 1996 5:19 PM
>To:     [e-mail]
>Subject:     Re: Hackers??
>
>At 02:09 PM 15/10/96 -0600, you wrote:
>
>>I don't believe it's had a US release, but that's only because I haven't
>>seen it in the shops.
>
>The Hacker Sountrack is KILLER!
>
>Well, it's available in Canada so it should be avail. in the US - but
>if
>they don't have it at one peticular store, ask for it.
>
>Diddle Out.
>
>

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:FSOL EP
Date: 16 Oct 1996 13:14:11 +0000

At 13:41 15/10/96 BST, [e-mail] wrote:

>BTW someone mentioned FSOL and "My Kingdom" - Im playing it now and its a
>brilliant EP - very themey (just like Orbital) but of course not like
>Orbital. Recommended.

I bought it this morning but haven't listened to it yet, Now I won't be able
to think about anything else all afternoon!!

Also on the lookout for the new MoWax comp 'Headz 2', can anybody recommend it?

Cheers,
Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: Andrew Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: NME free tape
Date: 16 Oct 1996 13:50:07 GMT

Next week's NME comes with a free 45 minute tape of techno/jungle
stuff - including an 'exclusive' remix of 'Pearl's Girl' and 'Mix 3'
of 'The Box', plus Leftfield, 'Loops of Fury' by Chem Bros and some
other stuff.

I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign
imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK
list subscribers could 'buddy up' with an interested overseas list
member and buy a copy to send out to our less fortuntate colonial and
Euro-imperialist brothers and sisters? These tapes will not be
available in the shops, so this is yer only chance - out next
Wednesday!

Andy Jackson
"There's More To Life Than Books, You Know...But Not Much More."


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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: insides review
Date: 16 Oct 1996 10:31:58 -0700

if anyone missed it there's an album review (albeit small) of orbital's
insides in the usa october edition of pulse! magazine (tower record's).

they also review
electric skychurch -------------  together
meat beat manifesto ----------  subliminal sandwich
robert miles -----------------------  children
mick

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:US UNDERNET!
Date: 16 Oct 1996 17:12:14 BST

Ok.....US.UNDERNET.ORG is for you americans and that links the Brits with
ya!
Any others required....

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.
Orbital Zine.

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail] (Crash Pango)
 >I think it's a GREAT idea!  But before we arrange the date and all,
let's
>try to nail down a place where we know we can all get to.  In the past my
>friends and I have had troubles getting on uk.undernet.org but maybe that
>was because we we're doing something wrong.  Any americans out there have
>any luck logging onto IRC at undernet.uk.org?

 I just tried to do so and no luck - yeh I'm all for a meet up, let me
know
and I'll try to be there except I need some direction for USA to UK
connection.  I have everything possible to hook up with.  There needs to
be
an international IRC that we can all access.

Cheers to all, Crash



=====================================================================

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Get a Life message
Date: 16 Oct 1996 17:29:56 BST

Heres a message that got encoded....a good one....a message for me to get
a life....read on.

Message begins:

Errmmm...right....
I have an excellent life...always busy!
And tell us about your life....interesting is it?

Work for Gremlin ... as in the computer programmers ? or are into
D&D ?

What kind of life should we get then Martin ?

Steve
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----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Martin Calpin <[e-mail]>

 Get a life!





>Let John Barry (not an old geezer, a genius!) do the films for now...

Old Genius.

>P.S.  -- Actually, I don't care what they do as long as they keep
>producing beautiful music!

I agree...the more they put out the better.
Steve

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From: "Andrew Richard Cooper" <[e-mail]>
Subject: NME free tape -Reply
Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:36:00 -500 (EST)



>>> Andrew Jackson 10/16/96 08:50am >>>
I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign
imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK
list subscribers could 'buddy up' with an interested overseas list
member and buy a copy to send out to our less fortuntate colonial and
Euro-imperialist brothers and sisters? These tapes will not be
available in the shops, so this is yer only chance - out next
Wednesday!
>>
  I would love to get a copy of the tape. If anyone would send me the
tape I would be greatly appreciated. I am in the USA and I can not get the
tape.
Thanks,
Serial Killer


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From: Ajay Sharma <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: NME free tape
Date: 16 Oct 1996 09:54:03 -0700 (PDT)

> I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign
> imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK

Actually NME says that they don't distribute the tapes outside of the UK
but I get them all the time from a local record store.

later,

ajay

PS>  my friend has a subscription to NME and he also get's the tapes, he
lives in California like me.

Satyajot (Ajay) Sharma         |    -=[ Digital Odyssey ]=-
[e-mail]             |       Internet Services
[e-mail]                |      data:  [phone]
http://www.odc.net/~ssharma/   |     voice:  [phone]


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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Get a Life message
Date: 16 Oct 1996 13:35:22 -0700

so whats all this about? i'm a tad confused

> Heres a message that got encoded....a good one....a message for me to get

> a life....read on.
>
> Message begins:
>
> Errmmm...right....
> I have an excellent life...always busy!
> And tell us about your life....interesting is it?
>
> Work for Gremlin ... as in the computer programmers ? or are into
> D&D ?
>
> What kind of life should we get then Martin ?
>
> Steve


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From: [e-mail] (Crash Pango)
Subject: USA IRC Solved??
Date: 16 Oct 1996 14:44:30 -0500

Don't suppose anyone has tried TelNet for those Americans like myself.  I
found an open connection at UK.UNDERNET.ORG but I need a USER and a
PASSWORD to log on even on an FTP session.  At least I can get there.  So
now what??  I'm all geared, waiting for further info on when the IRC
session is going to be. Talk to me.  >Crash



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From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: IRC Meeting for Orbital Listees
Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:56:34 -0700

Here's the word on IRC for those of us on the list meeting up:

If you are in the US or Canada, select one of the many fine US undernet
servers.  If you're not picky and don't care about lag (all servers will
lag at any given point in time), chose US.undernet.org.  Port #s range from
6661 through 6669.  It's usually 6667.  Some use port 5001.  Check the MOTD
of the server that you log onto for alternate ports, should you happen to
lag.  Change ports or servers as desired.

If you feel as though you are *alone* after you logged onto the system,
type in the command /map  If the server you are on is the only one that
shows up, you've logged onto a server that is temporarily split from the
rest of the undernet.  Change servers to one that IS connected to the other
servers.

The US undernet is connected to the UK, EU, AU, NL, FR and maybe a few
other server systems.  EFnet (a different server system) in the US is NOT
connected to the EFnet in Europe.  Make sure you've connected to the
undernet server system so you can participate with everyone.  :)

Software:

If you have a PC, use mIRC, PIRCH, WIRC...There are many web sites
available to d/l this software from.

If you have a Mac, use IRCLE (HOMER is dead--only 2 servers in the US
undernet system still support this client).  IRCLE is available from
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ircle/ Or, you can use MacChat, GlobalChat or one of
many other fine clients.

UNIX users:  I think you use IRC II.  You're on your own for that as I
can't remember anything from my college daze (hehehe).

Someone else on the list mentioned Telenetting.  I believe that that can be
done, but when I tried it once, I couldn't see who was on the channel.  I
find that to be very frustrating.  :-/

Meeting place and time:

From what I've heard (from Steve "Loopz" Price-tag [hehehe!]), we're
getting together around 7:00 p.m. on Sunday, October 20.  Mind you, that's
7:00 p.m. (1900hrs) British time.  Translated, that's 11:00 a.m.
California, USA time.  Adjust your time accordingly.

My guess is that the channel to /join is #orbital.

If anyone has any questions regarding IRC, feel free to PRIVATELY e-mail
me, or join me this evening (around 8:00 p.m. PST) on #macintosh on the
undernet server system.  I'd be more than happy to help out.  Look for the
nick Tooncin8r or Bristol (my friend from the Ambient list is over here
visiting and that's his nick)

Regards,

--Anne
Tooncin8r on #macintosh

_____________________________________________________________________________

***SAVE TIBET***



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Steve's attached files.
Date: 16 Oct 1996 14:10:52 -0700

Steve:

What's with the attachments?  What format are they in?  Are they zip files?
Whatever they are, my system isn't too happy with them...

--Anne

>Attachment converted: attach.Z 2 (????/----) (00013DE8)


_____________________________________________________________________________

***SAVE TIBET***



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From: [e-mail] (Violette)
Subject: Re: Hackers??
Date: 16 Oct 1996 21:31:44 GMT



        What is the name of this movie? Thanks:)
            =09
                            Violette
                        [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: NME free tape
Date: 16 Oct 1996 17:06:04 -0500

At 01:50 PM 10/16/96 GMT, you wrote:
>Next week's NME comes with a free 45 minute tape of techno/jungle
>stuff - including an 'exclusive' remix of 'Pearl's Girl' and 'Mix 3'
>of 'The Box', plus Leftfield, 'Loops of Fury' by Chem Bros and some
>other stuff.
>
>I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign
>imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK
>list subscribers could 'buddy up' with an interested overseas list
>member and buy a copy to send out to our less fortuntate colonial and
>Euro-imperialist brothers and sisters? These tapes will not be
>available in the shops, so this is yer only chance - out next
>Wednesday!

Tell me what I need to do! This yankee needs that tape! Yahoooo!


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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: NME free tape
Date: 16 Oct 1996 18:17:00 -0400 (EDT)

On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Andrew Jackson wrote:

> I don't think these tapes are included on the cover of Foreign
> imported copies of the NME - UK only, I think. However, maybe the UK
> list subscribers could 'buddy up' with an interested overseas list
> member and buy a copy to send out to our less fortuntate colonial and
> Euro-imperialist brothers and sisters? These tapes will not be
> available in the shops, so this is yer only chance - out next
> Wednesday!

    Umm, yeah, if anyone could snag a copy for a poor NME-less
American, it would be much appreciated..

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: Samuel Wormleighton <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Question time
Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:04:07 +0100 (BST)


> >Does anyone know who does the video footage for the concerts?
>
> I can get the names...but they are VERY busy.

I'm not too bothered who it actually is. I just wondered if the band
themselves got involved.

> Orbital dont really have much to do with it....just input. Its an
> individual company (very small though).

If they've been sticking with the same company for all thier stuff that
might explain it. I just felt that all the visual stuff had a very
'orbital' feel and so thought maybe they had a hand in it themselves.

> >Also when they played in Manchester they errected a tower in the middle
> >of the dance floor and played from this, with the crowd all around them.

> Was this Sniv tour ?
> I thinks it was.... They did it at most venues on the Sniv tour.

And wasn't it the greatest? I loved being able to actually dance all the
way around them. Lets face it, dance bands do tend to suffer from bland
identities (unless your a loony like keith from the Prodigy) and a little
twist like playing in the crowd makes things more eventfull I guess.

>
> >I personlly rate this as a high percentage of the orbital experiance but
> >I heard that they've been prevented from doing this at some venus for
> >safety reasons. Can anyone confirm this and if so which shows should we
> >be avoiding?
>
> Mmmm...dont think they do the tower routine any more so i wouldnt worry.

Well in that case I am worried. I've only seen them a couple of times
(plus Tribal 95 which doesn't count because I was so far back I could
hardly tell if they were on stage of playing a tape) and both times
they've been up a tower. I loved it. I suppose I could be way off the mark
and be getting confused but its fairly unlikely. The more I think about it
the more I feel I might have seen the Sniv show twice, this would explain
it.

Sam..,..

> (havent got time for the sig.)

(havent got a sig not to have time for.)


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From: Samuel Wormleighton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: NME free tape
Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:08:29 +0100 (BST)


>
> I would love to have it- first I'll check with my importer to see if it's
> on the import magazine - I do pray!!  BUT - probably not going to happen.
> Is anyone interested in getting me a copy here in the USA??  Don't quite
> know how to go about? - it's not worth the $25 fee for an international
> money order - there has to be another way.  Appreciate any help I can get
> on getting it.   > Crash
>

If you send me your address (direct to [e-mail])
I'll mail you the tape for no charge. The catch is that I'll expect a tape
of your own creation to be sent back. I like to hear other peoples 'best
of' tapes anyway as its a good way to get to know them.

Sam..,..


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From: Samuel Wormleighton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: NME free tape -Reply
Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:11:01 +0100 (BST)



>   I would love to get a copy of the tape. If anyone would send me the
> tape I would be greatly appreciated. I am in the USA and I can not get the
> tape.
> Thanks,
> Serial Killer


see my other message. This is an open offer to people who can't get the
tape but will take the time to send me something back.

Sam..,..


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From: Frank France <[e-mail]>
Subject: Unscribe
Date: 16 Oct 1996 17:48:52 GMT

We are having difficulty in unsubscribing to this group, I would be
grateful for help.

FF

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Update on band list
Date: 17 Oct 1996 08:31:03 -0400

Hi again, just a quickie to say there's a new version of the band listing at
http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html complete with a submissions
guide. Again, anyone who feels that their entry has been scrambled should
reply to me privately and I'll sort it out.

Cheers, Paul Mison           [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Crash Pango)
Subject: Re: Get a Life message
Date: 17 Oct 1996 08:35:29 -0500

>so whats all this about? i'm a tad confused

I'll join you on the confused list.  What the hell are you rambling on
about, Steve??  The only thing I could pull out is that someone told you to
get a life and it pissed you off (understandable) ??????  Fill us all in.
 >Crash

>> Heres a message that got encoded....a good one....a message for me to get
>
>> a life....read on.
>>
>> Message begins:
>>
>> Errmmm...right....
>> I have an excellent life...always busy!
>> And tell us about your life....interesting is it?
>>
>> Work for Gremlin ... as in the computer programmers ? or are into
>> D&D ?
>>
>> What kind of life should we get then Martin ?
>>
>> Steve



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Get a Life message
Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:09:45 BST


> so whats all this about? i'm a tad confused

I had a few messages of this Gremlin geezer giving me a right
slagging...he also led me into the usual Mac vs Pc crap! And he tells me
to get a life!

p.s. Sorry i posted it in a way....but people like that do my head in.

Cheers
Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll - PT1
Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:12:01 BST

God....my nerves have gone! :-O

Im meeting Paul Hartnoll tomorrow afternoon (Friday) at the new studio.
They have moved across the road from the infamous Strongroom and moved
into a bigger room.

The best thing (or worse in my case!) is that Paul said that he needed to
speak to me about the zine. He has a copy of the first one and said "There
are a few corrections that i need to point out". Oops!

So it should be interesting....got loads of questions and this will put
the final article in place for LOOPZ issue 2. Travelling down by Train
enabled me to finalize the new format of the zine as well. So it will be
sooner than what i was expected.

I shall do a part 2 to this message cause i want to make sure this
bloody thing does encode...like it did the other day! (SORRY FOLKS!)

Cheers
Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:13:10 BST

Part 2

Things to let u know now....are EP wont be this side of Xmas....
im disappointed as im sure a lot of you lot are but the a double ep it
is. I might find out about the second cd tomorrow but Jones (press-man)
didnt know any details.

Also they ARE coming to USA this YEAR. Before i get bombarded with emails,
ill give the details as soon as i find out of Paul. You can all stop
jumping up and down now ! ;)

Cheers
 Steve
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From: Aaron <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 17 Oct 1996 13:55:36 -0500

find out if they're coming anywhere NEAR texas!  ;)

        aaron

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Update on band list
Date: 17 Oct 1996 13:47:35 -0500

So cool to see my name on a website : ) Keep up the good work on it...wish
I could get mine looking so good...

Tony


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Steve's attached files.
Date: 17 Oct 1996 18:25:10 BST

Im sorry folks about the attachments....my work has got probs with the
gateway at the moment...so its encoding messages everynow and then!

Im sorrrrrrrryyy

Steve LOOPZ Price.

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:"Anne L. Usion" <[e-mail]>
 Steve:

What's with the attachments?  What format are they in?  Are they zip
files?
Whatever they are, my system isn't too happy with them...

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From: [e-mail] (Bryan, Anthony L.)
Subject: Orb/Orbital/etc Concert Pics
Date: 17 Oct 1996 17:16:32 -0400

My page is semi-working now, anyone interested should check it out:

http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/concert.htm

umm, my school kinda sucks & they screwed up my page a bit. They screwed up
the html files & put on an older version (of all things they screwd up the
MAIN page=prophet.htm)...it took them 4 weeks to even do that. Oh well.
There's actually more stuff I'm just waiting for them to put it on.

So anyways, here's the stuff on it: not much right now, but a pic of the orb
from last year & one of Alex djing, 5 (I think) pics of Orbital live, links
to my Autechre pics, and Meat Beat Manifesto.

After you see it, tell me what you think, or if it even works...Anyone who
has any other live show pix to contribute would be cool too.

Anthony


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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 17 Oct 1996 17:27:04 -0500

At 06:13 PM 10/17/96 BST, you wrote:
Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!!  I know you can pull strings steve! LOL :)
                                               (actually that would be
cool)(you have that influence)
LOL :)

Digger

>Part 2
>
>Things to let u know now....are EP wont be this side of Xmas....
>im disappointed as im sure a lot of you lot are but the a double ep it
>is. I might find out about the second cd tomorrow but Jones (press-man)
>didnt know any details.
>
>Also they ARE coming to USA this YEAR. Before i get bombarded with emails,
>ill give the details as soon as i find out of Paul. You can all stop
>jumping up and down now ! ;)
>
>Cheers
> Steve
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From: Sam Wormleighton <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orb Record (The LAST of)
Date: 18 Oct 1996 12:10:44 +0100 (BST)


Just a note to say that I'm not a complete arse who goes around lying to
impress people its just that I may have got confused over the finer points
of my collection of several hundred CDs which is a great many miles from
here and hard to refer to.

I still might be proved right in which case I'll reply individually to
those concerned but in the mean time lets just forget about it. That
people can get worked into a frenzy of (near) personal abuse by such a
thing is a little distressing though.


Sam..,..


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Orb Record (The LAST of)
Date: 18 Oct 1996 11:12:23 -0500

At 12:10 PM 10/18/96 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Just a note to say that I'm not a complete arse who goes around lying to
>impress people its just that I may have got confused over the finer points
>of my collection of several hundred CDs which is a great many miles from
>here and hard to refer to.

And what exactly does this have to do with Orbital....?


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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Test-Delete this message please.
Date: 18 Oct 1996 11:11:45 -0500

Test test test


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From: Wesley Eccleston <[e-mail]>
Subject: turntables
Date: 18 Oct 1996 12:59:52 -0800 (PST)


Could any of you Orbital people give me a clue as to how much 2 mounted
turntables would run me?  New and used prices appreciated, as are prices
in either English pounds, US dollars, or any other funds.  I'll convert it
to my weak Canadian dollar as I hear back from anyone who has a clue.  Also,
it is possible to purchase Orbital LP's, isn't it?  I certainly haven't
seen any around here ever.  And how much would those run me?  Thanks for
responding.  Always, wesleyeccleston.

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From: [e-mail]
Date: 18 Oct 1996 15:50:54 -0600 (MDT)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: turntables
Date: 19 Oct 1996 11:08:14 GMT


>Could any of you Orbital people give me a clue as to how much 2 mounted=20
>turntables would run me?  New and used prices appreciated, as are prices=
=20
>in either English pounds, US dollars, or any other funds.  I'll convert =
it=20
>to my weak Canadian dollar as I hear back from anyone who has a clue.  =
Also,=20
>it is possible to purchase Orbital LP's, isn't it?  I certainly haven't=20
>seen any around here ever.  And how much would those run me?  Thanks for=
=20
>responding.  Always, wesleyeccleston.

 a pair of new 1210s will set you back about 1000squids.
It's worth looking for second hand gear, not so long ago I picked up
an excellent condition Technics SL3200 deck for 50squids - can't go
wrong.
An Orbital album on vinyl would cost about the same as the CD version.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 19 Oct 1996 15:12:47 BST

Ill be posting a message in a few secs regarding my 5 hour visit (time
flies...or is that times fly!) to see Paul Hartnoll but as yet no concrete
dates and venues are ready....so...i wont know just yet.

Steve
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----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Aaron <[e-mail]>
 find out if they're coming anywhere NEAR texas!  ;)

        aaron

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 19 Oct 1996 15:20:04 BST


>
>Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!!  I know you can pull strings steve! LOL
>:)
>(actually that would be cool)(you have that influence)
>LOL :)

>Digger

I think its just luck....im trying to get them to play Birmingham instead
of Wolverhampton (which is 5 miles or so north of Birmingham) but i
couldnt give Paul a suitable venue for them to play. Either too small or
too big.
Dates to be printed when i get them.

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:LP Orbital (for Wesley)
Date: 19 Oct 1996 15:57:08 BST

Wesley!

>Also,  it is possible to purchase Orbital LP's, isn't it?  I certainly
>haven't  seen any around here ever.  And how much would those run me?
Orbital LPS....in the Uk the Brown, Sniv and In Sides are common. Yellow
is getting rare (not too rare though). Price wise....good question. I
think they go for 8 quid (pound) English stuff.

Cheers

NP Halcyon live at Boston (Bel and JB in synch)

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Orbital and FSOL
Date: 19 Oct 1996 16:27:07 BST

Wow...im scared more now.
Ive just heard off FSOL. Sent them an email and im not too sure who
replied, Brian Cobain or Mr Dougans (email was from LANDMASS) but they
have said i can send them an interview questionaire thingy. Im shocked!

As for Orbital. Well i finished my Novell course on Friday (early) and
went straight up to the Strongroom. Met up with Paul and a couple of his
mates (one who is doing his own music-sending me a tape and the other a
tour manager). Sat down bit of a discussion (mainly about the charts...and
a mock video for SATAN (Paul loved talking about that)). I then
helped...can u believe this ... helped them move the equipment and other
stuff that was found in the Strongroom (paintings, loads of letters, a
digereedoo (sp?) from a well known track, a couple of weird drums etc).

A swift coffee and then over to the pub for three hours. Id like to
indulge with everything that was said...but some i cant and some i cant
remember ;)

But things to know about now are that the Live tour of USA is on and no
dates and venues are complete...Paul did mention the Rocky Mountains
...mmmmm.

Live ep is now most likely a TRIPLE CD... Three individual CDs....tracks
that are appearing for sure are Satan, Lush and TGWTSIHH.
The other two cds have a rough track list which will be most likely (MOST
LIKELY) Dwr Budr, OUT THERE SOMEWHERE!, Chime, P.E.T.R.O.L and IMPACT!

Yes, no Halcyon. Its not looking promising. I spoke to Paul regarding this
and he feels (id have to agree really) that it will not come across on CD
as it does live. The appreciation will be lower than it would be in a live
audiance. And after all it was a joke....grab them booties!

BTW all CDS will be most likely (again) be 1 pound 49 pence. Cheap or
what. Collect all 3 cds for a combined price of 4 quid 50 pence and you
have ove an hour live stuff....what value.

Anyway....i reckon this is long enough to be decoded....lets hope not.

More news when i remember it....what an excellent evening though!

Cheers

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:IRC Meeting!
Date: 19 Oct 1996 16:51:45 BST

Ok...

i was gonna print everyones name and handle so we knew who was who but
time has caught up. So we will introduce ourselves no doubt on the
channel.

Sunday 1900hrs to whenever. Jump on IRC (Undernet connected) and make your
way to #ORBITAL channel. If it aint there...i aint created it yet!

Im logged on as LOOPZ BTW and no doubt will be briefly on tonight (early
hours ENglish time) if you need to speak b4. You will find me in Macintosh
if Orbital is not created. BTW i aint got a mac!

Cheers

Steve
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 19 Oct 1996 16:14:30 -0500

At 03:20 PM 10/19/96 BST, you wrote:
It has to be an all ages show!!!
(not 18 or 21 yet!)

THANX
Digger
>
>>
>>Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!!  I know you can pull strings steve! LOL
>>:)
>>(actually that would be cool)(you have that influence)
>>LOL :)
>
>>Digger
>
>I think its just luck....im trying to get them to play Birmingham instead
>of Wolverhampton (which is 5 miles or so north of Birmingham) but i
>couldnt give Paul a suitable venue for them to play. Either too small or
>too big.
>Dates to be printed when i get them.
>
>Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 19 Oct 1996 20:28:05 -0400

     Hopefully to Detroit too;)  There is a new club here that would be
     perfect!!


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At 03:20 PM 10/19/96 BST, you wrote:
It has to be an all ages show!!!
(not 18 or 21 yet!)

THANX
Digger
>
>>
>>Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!!  I know you can pull strings steve! LOL
>>:)
>>(actually that would be cool)(you have that influence)
>>LOL :)
>
>>Digger
>
>I think its just luck....im trying to get them to play Birmingham instead
>of Wolverhampton (which is 5 miles or so north of Birmingham) but i
>couldnt give Paul a suitable venue for them to play. Either too small or
>too big.
>Dates to be printed when i get them.
>
>Steve
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: What does God say?
Date: 21 Oct 1996 13:07:44 +0000

Going back a bit, I bought the Counterforce CD with the Vapourspace mix of
Are We Here? on it the other day. I saw two versions, I gather one is
unsequenced (TRUCD 6, I think), and has 12 tracks, the other is sequenced by
Mark Gage (TRUCD 7 ?) and has 13 including Are We Here?, its just the album
version with overdubs, rather than a proper remix, but the CD is great, so I
don't mind not getting the remix (a Vapourspace mix of Are We Here? would be
well worth hearing).

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: That mate of Paul's...
Date: 21 Oct 1996 13:34:40 +0000

> went straight up to the Strongroom. Met up with Paul and a couple of his
> mates (one who is doing his own music-sending me a tape and the other a
> tour manager). Sat down bit of a discussion (mainly about the charts...and

If said mate is who I'm thinking, then he records as Schematix. He
played at Oscillate earlier this year and rocked! To give youse all
an idea, back then his tunes had distinctly Orbital noises in them
(cross-pollination going on here I'm sure) and were all well upbeat.
The tape is dead good too...

yan

Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Halcyon--Just a Joke?
Date: 21 Oct 1996 08:38:22 -0400

>....i know Paul/Phil were a bit dodgy about
>releasing Halcyon (im playing it live at Boston now....shame!) because of
>the joke element of BJ and BC.

>Yes, no Halcyon. Its not looking promising. I spoke to Paul regarding this
>and he feels (id have to agree really) that it will not come across on CD
>as it does live. The appreciation will be lower than it would be in a live
>audiance. And after all it was a joke....grab them booties!
Steve,
Could you go into more detail about the joke element involved in the Halcyon
track?  Enlighten me please! ;)  Also, when did Orbital start mixing Belinda
Carlisle and Bon Jovi within it?  Was this always something they had done
live (I know there are different live versions--with and without
combinations of these added elements), and did they only start doing this
after the album was released or did they just not want to go through the
process of getting permission to use them in their own work?
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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Halcyon--Just a Joke?
Date: 21 Oct 1996 14:54:49 +0000

> Could you go into more detail about the joke element involved in the Halcyon
> track?  Enlighten me please! ;)  Also, when did Orbital start mixing Belinda
> Carlisle and Bon Jovi within it?  Was this always something they had done

Sorry but you're being a tad slow. The track itself is no joke.
Mixing Belinda and Jovi in _is_ the joke! Yes they only do things
like this live, and Belinda is not the first.

yan

Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: [e-mail] (Crash Pango)
Subject: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 21 Oct 1996 10:20:30 -0500

>     Hopefully to Detroit too;)  There is a new club here that would be
>     perfect!!
>>>Tell them Illinois or Indiana!!!  I know you can pull strings steve! LOL
>>>:)
>>>(actually that would be cool)(you have that influence)
>>>LOL :)
>>
>>>Digger
>>
>>I think its just luck....im trying to get them to play Birmingham instead
>>of Wolverhampton (which is 5 miles or so north of Birmingham) but i
>>couldnt give Paul a suitable venue for them to play. Either too small or
>>too big.
>>Dates to be printed when i get them.
>>
>>Steve
        OK if we are suggesting venues of luck then here in the USA I've
got a good one- and digger! can drive from Illinois or Indiana.  I'm in the
mood of driving 3 states in any direction for this tour!! Anyways - There a
warehouse club that just opened here last spring pretty- popular place not
too big and not too small - great bunch of folks that run the place -they
are really into their stuff and are always bringing groups in for gigs and
concerts - it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you
wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed.  So
where does everyone else in the USA live??  I'm here in columbus, ohio.

>Crash



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From: ebbhead <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Halcyon--Just a Joke?
Date: 21 Oct 1996 10:19:30 -0400

>> Could you go into more detail about the joke element involved in the Halcyon
>> track?  Enlighten me please! ;)  Also, when did Orbital start mixing Belinda
>> Carlisle and Bon Jovi within it?  Was this always something they had done
>
>Sorry but you're being a tad slow. The track itself is no joke.
>Mixing Belinda and Jovi in _is_ the joke! Yes they only do things
>like this live, and Belinda is not the first.
DOH!  Thanks for knocking some sense into me! ;)
-ebbhead


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From: Al Arzaga <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 21 Oct 1996 10:45:20 -0500 (CDT)

> it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you
> wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed.  So
> where does everyone else in the USA live??  I'm here in columbus, ohio.
>
I'm over by Chicago, IL.  I'm not sure if I can afford the time to drive
thru a couple of big midwestern states, so I'm hoping they stop by the
Metro like they did last July 3....


aL

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Gig venues request - README!
Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:20:40 BST

Guys and Girls,

B4 we get crowded with requests of venues and locations for P&P to play!

Ive got no control , or no influence , or say on where they play. Even P&P
dont really get invlolved with that, that much. So sorry...please no more
requests.

Cheers

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Halcyon--Just a Joke?
Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:25:58 BST


>Could you go into more detail about the joke element involved in the
>Halcyon track?  Enlighten me please! ;)

You already know this one now.

>  Also, when did Orbital start mixing Belinda
> Carlisle and Bon Jovi within it?

As early as 94 i think.

>  Was this always something they had done live (I know there are
>different live versions--with and without combinations of these added
>elements)

They have only done it live. With combinations - yes. Without, BC, BJ and
BC.

>, and did they only start doing this after the album was released or did
>they just not want to go through the
>process of getting permission to use them in their own work?

Ermmm...confused about the question. If you asking did they only do it
after the Brown release so that they didnt have to ask permission to use
the sampled on the Brown version of Halycon + on + on. Then no.
It was made just for live.

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:IRC
Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:28:15 BST

For those who managed to turn up on Sunday....hopefully we can make it a
perminent fixture for every Sunday at 1900hrs onwards (British Time). At
times it was hectic!

Thanx Anne BTW for the BOT!

Cheers

Steve
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From: "Steven Dzilvelis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Orbital and FSOL
Date: 21 Oct 1996 10:38:44 -0700


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> But things to know about now are that the Live tour of USA is on and no
> dates and venues are complete...Paul did mention the Rocky Mountains
> ...mmmmm.

[From Denver/Boulder:]

YES!!!!!!

If they need promoter info, I'll help connect them!

We were BYPASSED last time, so I think it's only fair they come here before heading to Detroit again....
[ not instead of, just on the way there : )  ].

Just heard Chem Bros are headed here too!   Way cool!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:That mate of Paul's...
Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:16:21 BST

Not too sure.....i know his first name thats all.
When i get the tape....ill let u know.

Steve
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----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:"Yan" <[e-mail]>
 > went straight up to the Strongroom. Met up with Paul and a couple of
his
> mates (one who is doing his own music-sending me a tape and the other a
> tour manager). Sat down bit of a discussion (mainly about the
charts...and

If said mate is who I'm thinking, then he records as Schematix. He
played at Oscillate earlier this year and rocked! To give youse all
an idea, back then his tunes had distinctly Orbital noises in them
(cross-pollination going on here I'm sure) and were all well upbeat.
The tape is dead good too...

yan

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Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:IRC
Date: 21 Oct 1996 14:14:34 -0700

> For those who managed to turn up on Sunday....hopefully we can make it a
> perminent fixture for every Sunday at 1900hrs onwards (British Time). At
> times it was hectic!
 hey i enjoyed it, will be there next week.
 BTW anne,steve i got flooded !! worst amount of rainfall in a decade!!!

mick george
[e-mail]

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From: fanno <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 21 Oct 1996 12:48:41 -0700 (PDT)



On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Al Arzaga wrote:

> > it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you
> > wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed.  So
> > where does everyone else in the USA live??  I'm here in columbus, ohio.
> >
> I'm over by Chicago, IL.  I'm not sure if I can afford the time to drive
> thru a couple of big midwestern states, so I'm hoping they stop by the
> Metro like they did last July 3....
>
>
> aL
>
I live in San Diego, CA USA.  I hope/pray that the Bro's come to SoCal if
not San Diego at least LA, because I know that me and my friends will be
there!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[4]: Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 21 Oct 1996 17:59:01 -0400

     I live in Detroit, but I'm more than willing make a pilgrimage
     to see the Hartnoll brothers.  But there is a new venue here called
     Clutch Cargos that would be a good spot.

                              DJRavery



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On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Al Arzaga wrote:

> > it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you
> > wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed.  So
> > where does everyone else in the USA live??  I'm here in columbus, ohio.
> >
> I'm over by Chicago, IL.  I'm not sure if I can afford the time to drive
> thru a couple of big midwestern states, so I'm hoping they stop by the
> Metro like they did last July 3....
>
>
> aL
>
I live in San Diego, CA USA.  I hope/pray that the Bro's come to SoCal if
not San Diego at least LA, because I know that me and my friends will be
there!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: IRC
Date: 21 Oct 1996 21:55:40 GMT

well, I doubt I'll be joining you all on IRC this Sunday either 'cos
I'm going to Helter Skelter on Saturday. Not that I mind of course!!!!

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Paul Hartnoll PT2
Date: 21 Oct 1996 17:33:32 -0500

At 10:45 AM 10/21/96 -0500, you wrote:
>> it's called MEKKA - pass it along to Paul and Phil if you
>> wouldn't mind - I can also get you in contact with MEKKA if needed.  So
>> where does everyone else in the USA live??  I'm here in columbus, ohio.
>>
>I'm over by Chicago, IL.  I'm not sure if I can afford the time to drive
>thru a couple of big midwestern states, so I'm hoping they stop by the
>Metro like they did last July 3....
>
>
>aL
>
Chicago, Il Is exactly where i was thinking!!!
Love that idea!  Keep that in mind!
oh and also keep in mind all ages show!
DIGGER
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Gig venues request - README!
Date: 21 Oct 1996 17:34:22 -0500

At 03:20 PM 10/21/96 BST, you wrote:
Oops sorry 'bout that last one!
DIGGER

>Guys and Girls,
>
>B4 we get crowded with requests of venues and locations for P&P to play!
>
>Ive got no control , or no influence , or say on where they play. Even P&P
>dont really get invlolved with that, that much. So sorry...please no more
>requests.
>
>Cheers
>
>Steve
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From: Paul Mison <[e-mail]>
Subject: magwatch two
Date: 23 Oct 1996 08:35:23 +0100

Not much Orbital in the press this month; Muzik had a feature on mix
swaps that reckoned 'Mindstream' was one of the ten best mixes ever
though.

And, hoping noone else has posted this:
NME tracklisting.
Orbital: Box (single version 3)
Underworld: Pearl's Girl (NME mix)
Chemical Brothers: Loops of Fury
Goldie: This Is A Baad (Source Direct Mix)
Leftfield: Filter Fish
DJ Shadow: Changeling

Thanks again to all the responedents to the recommended bands thing,
it's the third biggest file on the site now!

Cheers, Paul Mison                          [e-mail]
http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.html   stopped clock
              unofficial orbital pages r us

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From: [e-mail] (Bryan, Anthony L.)
Subject: Orb/Orbital/Autechre/MBM concert pix
Date: 24 Oct 1996 02:32:41 -0400

My pictures are now on my site, altho it looks pretty crappy (who
cares)...it starts at http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/bryanal.htm but
all the concert stuff is at

http://palmnet.pbac.edu/users/bryanal/concert.htm

(all these are pictures I took at concerts).
Right now I have up a pic of the orb from 95, & Alex Paterson djing
recently, about 5 pics of Orbital when they were down here, some of Meat
Beat Manifesto, and 3 of Autechre.

If you have any suggestions on how to make it suck less please tell me...

thanks,
Anthony


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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: VIDEO?
Date: 27 Oct 1996 22:03:48 -0600

Hello All!
        Do Any Of You Orbital Lovers Out There Have ANY Video?
        Wether it be from live concerts, or their music videos, etc....
        ANY Orbital Video would be much appreciated!

Thanx!
        Digger
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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: VIDEO?
Date: 28 Oct 1996 11:12:49 +0000

I love Orbital
No other band has ever sent me into a psychedelic semi-trance
without the use of hallucinogenic substances - until In Sides.

Unfortunately, I have no video, i wish i did.
Anyway, I just thought I drop you a pill, I mean an e-mail
to say 'hello' to a fellow fan.

Peace.

Jonny.
([e-mail])

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Video Again
Date: 28 Oct 1996 06:01:27 -0600

Hi All You Orbital Fans!!

        Once Again Thid Is DIGGER!
        I am encouraging you again about the video!
        If ANYONE has ANY video of ORBITAL wether from concerts, music
video,         etc.
        I would like to know!  I am in dire need of video!  especially of
"Out there         somewhere".

        Please let me know of anything!  It will be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanx!
        DIGGER
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:LIST
Date: 28 Oct 1996 16:31:29 GMT

LIST

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Orbital in DJ mag
Date: 28 Oct 1996 10:56:43 -0600

I assume you all have read the Orbital interview in DJ mag?  I was suprised
to see that Phil had that gap in his front teeth...don't remember seeing it
before. The article said something about Orbital playing somewhere in
Europe in front of 500 people....500! Boy it must have been great to be at
that show with so few people.



"Check this good shit out" --Dolemite
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: WAS it just Me!
Date: 28 Oct 1996 20:08:01 GMT

God just SUBSCRIBEd.....

What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and
there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc

Oh well....ive sent the message round other people that werent on here.

Back to business.....2 million emails a day.

News update tomorrow...lots of changes...

Cheers

Steve Price
sig is away

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From: Shawn Wall <[e-mail]>
Subject: i'm new here
Date: 28 Oct 1996 15:24:36 -0500 (EST)

I've just joined the list.  I needed to be on some list because I was
just kicked off of the Erasure and PSB mailing lists.  Real friggin'
cool.  DAMN IT!  Anyway, I've been listening to Orbital for about a year
or a year and a half I'd say.  I found out about them while I was
searching the net for music and I downloaded a sample.  I liked it and
took a chance and bought orbital 2.  I loved it.  I've bought a few more
albums since then, and have enjoyed them all.  Does anyone else here
listen to Erasure or PSB?

WALL

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From: Al Arzaga <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WAS it just Me!
Date: 28 Oct 1996 14:34:57 -0600 (CST)

Think it was just you...
My email address wasn't wiped out of the orbital list
like a couple months ago...


> God just SUBSCRIBEd.....

which one?  Paul or Phil?
:)


> What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and
> there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc
>

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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: Re: WAS it just Me!
Date: 28 Oct 1996 04:39:36 -0500

>God just SUBSCRIBEd.....
>
>What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and
>there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc
>
>Oh well....ive sent the message round other people that werent on here.
>
>Back to business.....2 million emails a day.
>
>News update tomorrow...lots of changes...
>
>Cheers
>
>Steve Price
>sig is away

Don't know what happened.  I thought I got booted from the mailing list or
something.  I haven't gotten a single e-mail from the group since 10/21 so
I re-subscribe.  Funky things do a happen.  So what have I missed or is
everyone silent.  anything about the "Adidas Commercial" or the "NME Tape"
e-mails that I sent last week??

StarPango - finally it fits for what I was looking



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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Video Again
Date: 28 Oct 1996 15:37:16 -0600

Hi All You Orbital Fans!!

        Once Again Thid Is DIGGER!
        I am encouraging you again about the video!
        If ANYONE has ANY video of ORBITAL wether from concerts, music
video,         etc.
        I would like to know!  I am in dire need of video!  especially of
"Out there         somewhere".

        Please let me know of anything!  It will be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanx!
        DIGGER
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@


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From: Al Arzaga <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WAS it just Me!
Date: 28 Oct 1996 14:34:57 -0600 (CST)

Think it was just you...
My email address wasn't wiped out of the orbital list
like a couple months ago...


> God just SUBSCRIBEd.....

which one?  Paul or Phil?
:)


> What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and
> there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc
>

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From: [e-mail] (StarPango)
Subject: Re: WAS it just Me!
Date: 28 Oct 1996 04:39:36 -0500

>God just SUBSCRIBEd.....
>
>What happened...was it just me....just checked the list and
>there is loads of you lot SUBSCRIBED...no one told me ....boo hoo etc
>
>Oh well....ive sent the message round other people that werent on here.
>
>Back to business.....2 million emails a day.
>
>News update tomorrow...lots of changes...
>
>Cheers
>
>Steve Price
>sig is away

Don't know what happened.  I thought I got booted from the mailing list or
something.  I haven't gotten a single e-mail from the group since 10/21 so
I re-subscribe.  Funky things do a happen.  So what have I missed or is
everyone silent.  anything about the "Adidas Commercial" or the "NME Tape"
e-mails that I sent last week??

StarPango - finally it fits for what I was looking



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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Video Again
Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:29:23 -0600

Hi All You Orbital Fans!!

        Once Again Thid Is DIGGER!
        I am encouraging you again about the video!
        If ANYONE has ANY video of ORBITAL wether from concerts, music
video,         etc.
        I would like to know!  I am in dire need of video!  especially of
"Out there         somewhere".

        Please let me know of anything!  It will be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanx!
        DIGGER
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: incessant spamming of orbital list
Date: 28 Oct 1996 21:15:33 -0600

At 10:02 PM 10/28/96 EST, you wrote:
Chill dude!  my server just contacted me with some kind of message!
EVERY message that i have sent for the past 2 days has been sent over and
over again!
don't jump to conclusions please!
There is always a logical and good explanation!
i'm sorry if i happened to piss any body else off!
Digger
P.S. Sorry this e-mail didn't really have anything to do with orbital!
>PLEASE stop reforwarding that message asking for a video!!!!!
>
>I don't understand why you feel the need to keep sending the same crap
>over and over many times a day.  I don't mean to be a jerk, but come on..
>ONCE is enough.. another reminder is too much.. and what you're doing
>is just pissing everyone off.
>
>My suggestion to you is just wait.. if someone finds a video, they MIGHT
>tell you if you haven't already annoyed the hell out of them.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Leonardo
>
>
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital in DJ mag
Date: 28 Oct 1996 23:34:56 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Anthony Agee wrote:

> I assume you all have read the Orbital interview in DJ mag?  I was suprised
> to see that Phil had that gap in his front teeth...don't remember seeing it
> before. The article said something about Orbital playing somewhere in
> Europe in front of 500 people....500! Boy it must have been great to be at
> that show with so few people.

    When I saw them in Atlanta this summer, there couldn't have been
more than 150 people there. 200 at the outside.


halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 01:03:24 -0800

hi there,i see re-subscribing to this list did it,cheers steve :)
like i posted last week ,if it got there, i just bought 2 tickets for the
nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?maybe we can meet up?

kind regards,
mick george
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Al Arzaga)
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 00:22:08 -0600

>hi there,i see re-subscribing to this list did it,cheers steve :)
>like i posted last week ,if it got there, i just bought 2 tickets for the
>nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?maybe we can meet up?
>
>kind regards,
>mick george
>[e-mail]

whut thu--....
They're already gonna be in the states next month?

Anyone have their tour schedule?



aL
--
Alden Arzaga
[e-mail]
http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
"What were the skies like when you were young?"



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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Video Again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:15:00 +0000

You have sent me about 4 e-mails in the last two days asking for a video.
Leave me alone.
Leave my mail box alone.

Peace.

Jonny.

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: incessant spamming of orbital list
Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:19:06 +0000

Well said, Leonardo !

Peace.

Jonny.

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:22:24 +0000

hi there,i see re-subscribing to this list did it,cheers steve :)
like i posted last week ,if it got there, i just bought 2 tickets for the
nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?maybe we can meet up?

kind regards,
mick george
[e-mail]


REPLY:
You mean Boston, USA ?
FUCK!
I thought Orbital were only famous in Britain, and Europe.
Being a Scottish kilt-klad haggis eating caveman,
I just presumed this.

I like Orbital's tunes.
They are nice and friendly.
They are uplifting.
They are disturbed.
They are what you want them to be.

Peace.

Jonny.

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:23:48 +0000

When I was young the skies were a figment of everyone's imagination collectively.

How's that for a bit of basic spirituality?

Peace.

Jonny.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:NEWS UPDATE from LOOPZ
Date: 29 Oct 1996 11:57:08 GMT

Its good to be back.

News Updates ... remember everything i write is not finalised. Ive had
requests of lots of people saying can we put it on the net. It might not
be a good idea as people who read my posts a lot realise how things can
change a lot. Just read on and see what i mean.

BTW if you do put it on the Net ... can u give the readers an option to
contact me ... The more contacts we get and KEEP , the better ... enough
waffle ... news.

Requests for Tour Dates

Ive spoken to Paul (who didnt have the sheet with him), the press bloke
(who said its not all finalised and their manager (was out!). Jones
reckons we might have a final draft of the tour venues and dates in a
couple of days ... but they are not ALL final as yet.

New Years Eve

Something for the Brits ... about time eh?
New Years Eve ... Orbital will play Tribal Gathering at Alexandra Palace.

CD Release

No release date but the triple has gone back to a double due to trouble
with chart rules. That means certain tracks have gone. There was pressure
to release "Halycon" but thankfully Paul stuck to his guns and said NO.
The current and most likely line up is as follows:-

CD1 - Satan (New York), Lush (Boston) and TGWTSIHH (Boston)
CD2 - Satan (Chelmsford), Choice (Chelmsford) and Impact (Chelmsford)

I received a 12 inch and three track tape of Pauls m8, Schematik (spelt
wrong!) which had touches of Orbital in there. I should be putting some
samples of Orbital and Schematix (spelt wrong!) as soon as my good friend
sorts me out some space. Jones has also sent me some nice rare Orbital
stuff so ill have to see what i can put on the site. Good idea ?

IRC chat ... people turned up on Sunday (8 at one point) , none were on
the list ;) so i should be mentioning to them to join this list now that i
can  access it again. Anyone want to meet up this weekend ? Im on there
Saturday midnight onwards (sometimes i dont log on until 01 in the morning
depending where ive been) and Sunday at 1900 hrs onwards. These are
British times.

and last but not least

Orbital are playing "Satan" Live on Jools Holland tonight. It will be
broadcast in the next two months (no one knows when yet !). Evidentally
they have 6 minutes for Satan which is not enough  (as u know!). So what
will happen ?

Thats ya lot!

Give me some feedback...to the usual address ;)

Steve
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 12:04:21 GMT

Bloody hell Jonny ... talk about Orbital not this drivel! ;)

Cheers
Steve LOOPZ Price.

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
 When I was young the skies were a figment of everyone's imagination
collectively.

How's that for a bit of basic spirituality?

Peace.

Jonny.

=====================================================================

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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:NEWS UPDATE from LOOPZ
Date: 29 Oct 1996 12:54:24 +0000

> New Years Eve
>
> Something for the Brits ... about time eh?
> New Years Eve ... Orbital will play Tribal Gathering at Alexandra Palace.

Hooray!!

>
> I received a 12 inch and three track tape of Pauls m8, Schematik (spelt
> wrong!) which had touches of Orbital in there. I should be putting some
> samples of Orbital and Schematix (spelt wrong!) as soon as my good friend
> sorts me out some space. Jones has also sent me some nice rare Orbital
> stuff so ill have to see what i can put on the site. Good idea ?

Definitely! Is the Schematix 12" on release? If so what's the cat.
no. ?

Cheers,

yan
Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 13:12:32 +0000

Bloody hell Jonny ... talk about Orbital not this drivel! ;)

Cheers
Steve LOOPZ Price.

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
 When I was young the skies were a figment of everyone's imagination
collectively.

How's that for a bit of basic spirituality?

Peace.

Jonny.




Listen, mate.
Here's a bit of educational information for you:
Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music they do.

Music originated from mathematics and spirituality, and in the most early years
(when it was legal) though this still occurs today illegally, the best musicians
looked at heir own spiritualities and found strong links between music and
spirituality while experimenting with natural hallucinogenic substances.
Paote, magic mushrooms, cannabis etc.

If it was not for these natural resources, if it was not for mathematics and
spirituality, Orbital would not be the band they are today.

Sorry for the shove it down your throat attitude, but this is how it is.
And for the people out there somewhere (what a fantastic song to trip out to)
who are saying to themselves....

"drugs? NO! that's illegal. That's bad."

Listen to yourself, not to what all the fuckers who decide which drugs to tax,
(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact) such
as sugar, coffee, alcohol, nicotine are drugs too. Taxed drugs. Legal drugs.
Spot the pattern ?

In Summary, if you haven't heard Orbital in a happy mood, in a sad mood, tired,
excited, while falling aslepp, while asleep, while waking up, stoned out your
face, tripping out your face - then you haven't even begun to understand the
full extent of what Orbital's music is capable of doing to your soul.

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: NEWS UPDATE from LOOPZ
Date: 29 Oct 1996 13:21:55 +0000

yan
Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons


Nice fucking quote to back up my point about spirituality, mate.
Thanks.
The more you think about it, the more bands you realise are singing about it,
or trying to describe aspects of it with their music, or even doing both
simultaneously.

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: [e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:48:43 -0500

>hi there,i see re-subscribing to this list did it,cheers steve :)
>like i posted last week ,if it got there, i just bought 2 tickets for the
>nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?maybe we can meet up?
>
>kind regards,
>mick george
>[e-mail]
What are you trying to tempt us to death here in the states.  I don't know,
I might pull some money out of a majic hat to fly out to Boston from Ohio -
it would be more of a for sure if I could buy 2 tickets and bring Cereal
Killer with me - I know he wants to go but you got to nudge him a little.
How much are the tickets??

StarPango=81



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From: [e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
Subject: Jonny- Get a L.I.F.E.
Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:59:36 -0500


>Listen, mate.
>Here's a bit of educational information for you:
>Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music
>they do.
>
>Music originated from mathematics and spirituality, and in the most early y=
ears
>(when it was legal) though this still occurs today illegally, the best
>musicians
>looked at heir own spiritualities and found strong links between music and
>spirituality while experimenting with natural hallucinogenic substances.
>Paote, magic mushrooms, cannabis etc.
>
>If it was not for these natural resources, if it was not for mathematics an=
d
>spirituality, Orbital would not be the band they are today.
>
>Sorry for the shove it down your throat attitude, but this is how it is.
>And for the people out there somewhere (what a fantastic song to trip out t=
o)
>who are saying to themselves....
>
>"drugs? NO! that's illegal. That's bad."
>
>Listen to yourself, not to what all the fuckers who decide which drugs to t=
ax,
>(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact) such
>as sugar, coffee, alcohol, nicotine are drugs too. Taxed drugs. Legal drugs=

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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 08:47:31 -0800

Alden wrote....
> whut thu--....
> They're already gonna be in the states next month?
>
> Anyone have their tour schedule?
>
last time i checked http://www.ticketmaster.com last friday they only had 2
dates,
Boston nov 20 @ Avalon 9pm 18+
Atlanta nov 23
i got my Boston tickets the day they went on sale last friday,

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]

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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:NEWS UPDATE from LOOPZ
Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:18:47 -0800

Sir steve wrote...
> Its good to be back.

yes indeedy

> BTW if you do put it on the Net ... can u give the readers an option to
> contact me ... The more contacts we get and KEEP , the better ... enough
> waffle ... news.

i will do that i was'nt sure if you could handle the thousands of reply's
that you'd get ;)


> Requests for Tour Dates <edit>... but they are not ALL final as yet.

say it ain't so steve ,i've already took the day off work,tell 'em the
cuppa still stands :)

> IRC chat

i should be there this weekend my friend

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]

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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:09:43 -0800

jonathon said...
> REPLY:
> You mean Boston, USA ?

yes i do

> FUCK!

no thanks i just ate

> I thought Orbital were only famous in Britain, and Europe.
> Being a Scottish kilt-klad haggis eating caveman,
> I just presumed this.

mybe be being english in usa helps ;)
>
l8r
mick george
[e-mail]

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From: "michael george" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 09:25:23 -0800

How much are the tickets??

StarPangoü


----------
i payed $13 plus the ticketmaster mark-up ,anyway it came to $38 and change
for 2 tickets incl tax,handling blah blah blah.

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]

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From: Sanjay Arora <[e-mail]>
Subject: ATLANTA!
Date: 29 Oct 1996 10:28:47 -0500

Orbital......November 23.....Saturday Night.....The
Masquerade......Cool!!!

This is twice I get to see them in 3 months (I feel like I'm in England
or something).

If anyone would like me to get them tickets to this show please e-mail
me privately (tickets are $13.50).  If you want to see P&P in a
relatively small setting (probably less than 500 people) this is the
place to go.  Also, I think it would be kind of cool to get a bunch of
people to get together before/after the show, maybe we can all meet at a
bar or club downtown and have some drinks.

I'm sorry that I'm cluttering up mailboxes all over Europe.  BUT, we
Yanks do get tired of hearing how great the show you guys just saw at
Glastonbury or Royal Albert Hall was ;).  We just get a little jealous
sometimes.

Later,
Sanjay

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From: [e-mail] (Carl Wennstam)
Subject: tour dates
Date: 29 Oct 1996 10:06:33 +0100

hello. i just recently joined this list. i'm an orbital fan from sweden but
right now i'm located in iowa,usa, so i would like to know when and where
the hartnoll bros will tour the us.

thanks for your time,
cal.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:38:38 GMT


Johnny someone said:-
>Listen, mate.
>Here's a bit of educational information for you:
>Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music
>they do.

Listen to me....
Dont ever...
DONT EVER....tell me what ORBITAL is about.
I eat Orbital, i chew Orbital, I swallow Orbital and shit Orbital.
Orbital has been in my veins from the very beginning ... Do you know all
your facts from Orbital themselves ...  would you like me to ask them.

I dont want to throw up my arms in the air and i say i know Orbital, i
know Orbital. Im NOT like that. I appreciate their music.

What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and
Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital
is.

As u said:-

>(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact)
Tell us some fucking facts ?
Go and UNSUBSCRIBE , we dont need your type here!

Steve
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DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Boston and IRC
Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:44:53 GMT



>> BTW if you do put it on the Net ... can u give the readers an option to
>> contact me ... The more contacts we get and KEEP , the better ...
>>enough waffle ... news.

>i will do that i was'nt sure if you could handle the thousands of reply's
>that you'd get ;)

:)
Loads of emails....we must be mad.
I can handle them all...although not from Spiritual potheaded scots ;)

>> Requests for Tour Dates <edit>... but they are not ALL final as yet.

>say it ain't so steve ,i've already took the day off work,tell 'em the
>cuppa still stands :)

Your Boston is ok m8...its just a few are undecided. Its a pint for Paul
remember ;)

>> IRC chat

>i should be there this weekend my friend

Excellent....Toon will be there if its rained off again. Maybe John from
Scotland will join us and explain WTF he is on about!

Cheers

Steve
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DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Schematix Tape and Schizoid-Man 12
Date: 29 Oct 1996 17:31:07 GMT


Loopz wrote:
>> I received a 12 inch and three track tape of Pauls m8, Schematik (spelt
>> wrong!) which had touches of Orbital in there. I should be putting some
>> samples of Orbital and Schematix (spelt wrong!) as soon as my good
>>friend sorts me out some space. Jones has also sent me some nice rare
>>Orbital stuff so ill have to see what i can put on the site. Good idea ?

Yan then wrote:
>Definitely! Is the Schematix 12" on release? If so what's the cat.
>no. ?

Ok...here is the full sp on the Schematix release...its under his Psyde
name of Schizoid-Man (but its the same bloke).

Schizoid Man    The Harvey Dent Ep

Nation Records    Cat NR82T

Heads side
Break Voucher

Tails side
Cloud 9 , Chip Shop (my favourite of the Ep)

The tape is done under the name of Schematix and i personally prefer the
tape. The 3 tracks are called

i)    .X.Tension
ii)    Salbutamol
iii)    Tragic Kingdon

Hope that helps ya Yan.

Steve
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From: Esme Weatherwax <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ATLANTA!
Date: 29 Oct 1996 14:43:52 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Sanjay Arora wrote:

> Orbital......November 23.....Saturday Night.....The
> Masquerade......Cool!!!
>
> This is twice I get to see them in 3 months (I feel like I'm in England
> or something).

    No kidding. I saw 'em in atlanta, and will, repeat WILL, be there
again.

> If anyone would like me to get them tickets to this show please e-mail
> me privately (tickets are $13.50).  If you want to see P&P in a
> relatively small setting (probably less than 500 people) this is the
> place to go.  Also, I think it would be kind of cool to get a bunch of
> people to get together before/after the show, maybe we can all meet at a
> bar or club downtown and have some drinks.

    Sounds good to me, but I have to be back in CHapel hill by Sunday
nite...Got 4th row seats for Black Crowes.. :)

halcyon <n> - A fabled bird, identified with the kingfisher, that was
supposed to have had the power to calm the wind and the waves during
winter solstice while it rested on the sea.
      <adj> - 1. Calm and peaceful; tranquil.
          2. Prosperous; golden.


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From: [e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
Subject: re:Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 29 Oct 1996 14:58:16 -0500

>Johnny someone said:-
>>Listen, mate.
>>Here's a bit of educational information for you:
>>Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music
>>they do.
>
>Listen to me....
>Dont ever...
>DONT EVER....tell me what ORBITAL is about.
>I eat Orbital, i chew Orbital, I swallow Orbital and shit Orbital.
>Orbital has been in my veins from the very beginning ... Do you know all
>your facts from Orbital themselves ...  would you like me to ask them.
>
>I dont want to throw up my arms in the air and i say i know Orbital, i
>know Orbital. Im NOT like that. I appreciate their music.
>
>What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and
>Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital
>is.
>
>As u said:-
>
>>(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact)
>Tell us some fucking facts ?
>Go and UNSUBSCRIBE , we dont need your type here!
Oohhhh you go LOOPZ - I agree with you on that one.  Humility not arrogance!

StarPango=81



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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: The list is farting
Date: 28 Oct 1996 22:20:14 -0600

Hey what the hell is wrong with this damn list server?  Must be made in
America.... ; )

BTW, do we have any news on when Mr. and Mr. Hartnoll are returning to the
United States?  I need to start saving money up for plane tickets...i'm
rather poor at the moment.  I hope they play somewhere to the south where
the weather is a bit warmer.

ALSO.....that DJ mag article said that one of the brothers...I think
Paul?...was kinda fooling around with a song which he hoped to make a real
dance floor monster...I guess like the old days before I was around.  It
could be very interesting.  Personlly, I wouldn't mind if they went "back"
to the Times Fly-type stuff.  It had some wicked beats.

Oh well....later!

Tony in Kansas

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Orbital tours the east coast...what about the rest of us?
Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:13:47 -0600

I checked Ticketmaster.  Orbital has added a third official date. They are
opening for the group Yes in Charlotte, North Carolina on November 22 at
Tremont Hall (9:00 PM).



"Check this good shit out" --Dolemite
http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:That reminds me!
Date: 29 Oct 1996 21:22:24 GMT


>ALSO.....that DJ mag article said that one of the brothers...I think
>Paul?...was kinda fooling around with a song which he hoped to make a
>real dance floor monster...I guess like the old days before I was around.
> It could be very interesting.  Personlly, I wouldn't mind if they went
>"back" to the Times Fly-type stuff.  It had some wicked beats.

That reminds me....hence the subject title.
When i spoke to Paul when i was in London, i asked him about the new album
and what direction they might go. I was suprised to hear him say that he
wants to do something real dancy. I mentioned "bit like the Brown" and he
said "yeah in a way, but it wont be the brown album, if you know what i
mean".
Interesting eh!

Cheers

Steve Price.
Sig gone john

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 29 Oct 1996 16:03:23 -0600

At 03:38 PM 10/29/96 GMT, you wrote:
Tell 'Em Steve!

Pretty Damn Well Said!

>
>Johnny someone said:-
>>Listen, mate.
>>Here's a bit of educational information for you:
>>Without all this "drivel", Orbital would not be able to write the music
>>they do.
>
>Listen to me....
>Dont ever...
>DONT EVER....tell me what ORBITAL is about.
>I eat Orbital, i chew Orbital, I swallow Orbital and shit Orbital.
>Orbital has been in my veins from the very beginning ... Do you know all
>your facts from Orbital themselves ...  would you like me to ask them.
>
>I dont want to throw up my arms in the air and i say i know Orbital, i
>know Orbital. Im NOT like that. I appreciate their music.
>
>What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and
>Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital
>is.
>
>As u said:-
>
>>(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact)
>Tell us some fucking facts ?
>Go and UNSUBSCRIBE , we dont need your type here!
>
>Steve
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>             Price
>CREATOR AND EDITOR OF LOOPZ - THE ORBITAL ZINE.
>HTTP://WWW.CYBERCITY.HKO.NET/BIRMINGHAM/LOOPZ
>DISMAYL.DEMON.CO.UK AND UK.UNDERNET.ORG
>LOGGED ON AS LOOPZ
>
>
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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:That reminds me!
Date: 29 Oct 1996 16:06:50 -0600

Steve Said This Cool Stuff:
>
>>ALSO.....that DJ mag article said that one of the brothers...I think
>>Paul?...was kinda fooling around with a song which he hoped to make a
>>real dance floor monster...I guess like the old days before I was around.
>> It could be very interesting.  Personlly, I wouldn't mind if they went
>>"back" to the Times Fly-type stuff.  It had some wicked beats.
>
>That reminds me....hence the subject title.
>When i spoke to Paul when i was in London, i asked him about the new album
>and what direction they might go. I was suprised to hear him say that he
>wants to do something real dancy. I mentioned "bit like the Brown" and he
>said "yeah in a way, but it wont be the brown album, if you know what i
>mean".
>Interesting eh!
>
>Cheers
>
>Steve Price.
>Sig gone john
I Am Saying All This Cool Jaz!

Steve Tell 'Em To Run With That Idea!!!!  I Love Their DAncey Stuff!
Don't Get Me Wrong I Like The Slow Maeningful Stuff Too But I Just
Absolutely Love Their Dancy Stuff!!

Digger
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Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
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           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Greg Liu <[e-mail]>
Subject: Amazing!
Date: 29 Oct 1996 15:31:05 -0800 (PST)

I am pretty new to this list, but it is a good thing to see that there are
so many adamant ORBITAL fans that seem to actually understand where the
geniuses are coming from...I saw ORBITAL at Organic over this past summer
and they essentially destroyed me; it was perhaps the greatest experience
of my life of that sort, followed by their Snivilisation tour...anyway, if
anybody knows when ORBITAL is coming to the Los Angeles area, please let
me know so that I can get tix....I don't exactly have the money to
fly out to Boston although I am seriously considereing it...Another thing,
what is this Schizoid Man release all about and how is possible to get a
copy?...
Thanks
Greg



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From: DADE <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: ATLANTA!
Date: 29 Oct 1996 19:15:46 -0500

At 10:28 AM 10/29/96 -0500, you wrote:
>Orbital......November 23.....Saturday Night.
>
Where?
Zero Cool

~ ~
- -
 ^
###




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From: DADE <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hello again
Date: 29 Oct 1996 19:18:48 -0500


>>nov 20 show in Boston is anyone else here going?

Hey when and where is this?  I would love to frigin go...I have never been
to them in concert.  Could you give me some info regaurding this?

Thanka alot...alot!!
Zero Cool

~ ~
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###




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From: DADE <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: When and where  in Boston?
Date: 29 Oct 1996 19:22:29 -0500


>You mean Boston, USA ?
>FUCK!


When are they gonna be in Boston...fuck..I need to go..I have never been to
them in concert..Could you email me info about how to get tickets and
where/when.

Thanks alot...
Zero Cool

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From: [e-mail] (Anne L. Usion)
Subject: Massaging the Scot--Non Orbital
Date: 29 Oct 1996 22:45:21 -0800

I somehow got mysteriously dropped from the list again.  Man!  I hate that.
Also, it seems as though I missed some sort of fight.  So now I'm ticked!
I love a fun word battle.  Suppose if we all got together in a pub
somewhere in England we'd end up in fist fight?

Steve:  tell me what I missed--if you get a chance to (IRC date!  :)  )

Digger:  I have a couple of Orbital pix from Organic for you.

--Anne

_________________________________________________________
SAVE TIBET



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Massaging the Scot--Non Orbital
Date: 30 Oct 1996 9:54:21 GMT

Anne wrote:

>Steve:  tell me what I missed--if you get a chance to (IRC date!  :)  )

Loopz replied:

I shall try and grab you (ahem) before u shoot off to work on IRC.
Nothing much happened though , only someone Preaching to the Perverted!
Cheers

Steve Loopz Price.

P.s. FSOL "Dead Cities" is very nice BTW (go and buy!)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Amazing! - Greg!
Date: 30 Oct 1996 10:01:16 GMT

>.Another thing,
>what is this Schizoid Man release all about and how is possible to get a
>copy?...

Ok..when i visited Paul down London we went to his local with two of the
best m8s. One of them (Phil) is an up and coming artist called Schizoid
Man and also Schematix.
Basically Paul suggested to Phil that he sent moi some examples of his
work to see what i thought. Phil sent me a 12 inch and a tape. Yan (Mr
Oscillate man) had seen Phil at Oscillate and was pleasently impressed(!).
Basically i just dropped the info via here (in case anyone else was
interested).
The 12 inch is available, the other taped tracks are unreleased except one
(i think) which is on a compilation somewhere.
I will be putting samples of the tracks on my web site in the near future.

Thats it

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Massaging the Scot--Non Orbital
Date: 30 Oct 1996 06:10:38 -0600

At 10:45 PM 10/29/96 -0800, you wrote:
>I somehow got mysteriously dropped from the list again.  Man!  I hate that.
>Also, it seems as though I missed some sort of fight.  So now I'm ticked!
>I love a fun word battle.  Suppose if we all got together in a pub
>somewhere in England we'd end up in fist fight?
                Hey it could happen!

>
>Steve:  tell me what I missed--if you get a chance to (IRC date!  :)  )
>
>Digger:  I have a couple of Orbital pix from Organic for you.
                Ohhhhh Yeah!  Kick A**!!!!!!!
                Are they scanned?  If so e-mail them to me privately at
[e-mail]
                        THANX!!!


>
>--Anne
>
>_________________________________________________________
>SAVE TIBET
>
>
>
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    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
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           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: FSOL (again) and Orbital
Date: 30 Oct 1996 12:50:02 +0000

At 09:54 30/10/96 GMT, [e-mail] wrote:

>P.s. FSOL "Dead Cities" is very nice BTW (go and buy!)
>
Already got it, though not yet listened to (too much work and I've still not
started on that Mowax double double CD....). I love the single, and I guess
the album will be up to scratch too. I still don't think they've matched
Accelerator, though...
And some Orbital to please the purists...
I got unsubscribed again last week (anyone know why?), have I missed any new
info about the live EP?

Jon


Jon Green: [e-mail]
"The less effort one puts in, the greater
satisfaction one gains from a good result"
    -J. Green, 1996.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:FSOL (again) and Orbital
Date: 30 Oct 1996 13:07:31 GMT


>I got unsubscribed again last week (anyone know why?), have I missed any
>new
>info about the live EP?

>Jon

Only that....
2 cds

1CD    Satan (NY), Lush (Boston), TGWTSIHH (Boston)
2CD    Satan (Chelmsford), Choice (Chelmsford), Impact (Chelmsford)

thats all...

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail] (Al Arzaga)
Subject: Re: Orbital tours the east coast...what about the rest of us?
Date: 30 Oct 1996 09:34:47 -0600

>I checked Ticketmaster.  Orbital has added a third official date. They are
>opening for the group Yes in Charlotte, North Carolina on November 22 at
>Tremont Hall (9:00 PM).

I think you're mistaken here.
Looks to me like YES will be playing at the _Orbital Tremont Hall_.

...And that Orbital has nothing to do with this show...

aL
--
Alden Arzaga
[e-mail]
http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
"What were the skies like when you were young?"



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From: Steve Farmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: This List
Date: 30 Oct 1996 14:35:14 EST

How do I get off this list as I unsubscribed several months ago, but seem to be
reattached

Steve


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From: [e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
Subject: Missing Out :(
Date: 30 Oct 1996 16:03:03 -0500

        Doesn't look like I'll make to Boston on the 20th - thats it the
middle of the week - doesn't chill well with my schedule.  Looks like if
and when they release the tour dates I'll be heading up to Chicago for the
event.  Anyone in the area? - if so lets meet up for the concert!!  Got
=46SOL's Dead Cities today absolutely wicked!  I checked out CDNow! and they
have a 194 pg limited edition booklet along with the cd for around $18.
And for those who know Enigma - looks like Enimga 3 is comind out on Nov.
26th? and they have a $4 single out right now called Beyond the Invisible
Cat # is something like this - 7243 8 38572 2 7  don't know which part will
help for those who want it.

StarPango=81



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From: [e-mail] (Daniel Hare)
Subject: Re: Orbital tours the east coast...what about the rest of us?
Date: 30 Oct 1996 17:01:22 GMT

Just a general note;
was this the first note in a week, or did we all get unsubscribed again?
Dan


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From: Pete Ashdown <[e-mail]>
Subject: venting...
Date: 30 Oct 1996 14:13:35 -0700 (MST)

I just wanted to vent my frustration with the agencies who have handled
Orbital tours now and in the past.

It seems that this is the third time Salt Lake City has been fucked for an
Orbital tour.  Despite generous offers, spacious venues, and a lot of hard
work each time they go on tour, we always get screwed in the end.

Orbital once stated that their stop in Salt Lake on their first tour was the
best for the entire tour.  It is truly sad that the agency's wishes fly in
the face of the artists more often than not.

I am fed up with the crap treatment I have received from these people.  If
Orbital ever wants to play in this area again, the agency is going to have to
beg me to do it, rather than the other way around.  I don't even do raves or
concerts anymore, but I have made an exception each time for the Orbital tour.

Sorry for this public venting to the list, but I thought this is something the
fans would want to know about.

Over and out,

Pete

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:venting...
Date: 30 Oct 1996 22:01:59 GMT



> I just wanted to vent my frustration with the agencies who have handled
>Orbital tours now and in the past.

>Orbital once stated that their stop in Salt Lake on their first tour was
>the best for the entire tour.  It is truly sad that the agency's wishes
>fly in the face of the artists more often than not.

Its a shame Paul and Phil cant get involved more in the venue locations.
But its totally out there hands...

If only they could please everyone... (including me)

Cheers

Steve Price.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Orbital in DJ mag
Date: 30 Oct 1996 18:33:36 -0500

i just saw orbital at the roxy in nyc. there were maybe 100 to 200 people
there.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: SATAN
Date: 30 Oct 1996 19:58:36 -0600

Hi guys!
        I was just curious if any one could shine some light on what
inspired the song (cut)
        Satan???

        Does any one know!

        I know when i listen to it i get this weird kind of vibe i just
can't describe it!

        I was just wanting to know what the background to this song is!

        I know that steve would know because he eats sleeps and shits ORBITAL!
        LOL :) Ha Ha!

        So any light sheding would be apprecited!

        Also and light sheding on Out There Some Where!
        Same thing just what inspired it and background info!

        P.S. Thanks for the pictures Anne!!!  If any one wants COOL pictures
of orbital         tours get ahold of ANNE!  They Kick!

DIGGER
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Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
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           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: venting...
Date: 30 Oct 1996 19:55:04 -0600

At 02:13 PM 10/30/96 -0700, you wrote:
Well while we are bitching and complaining i wish they would play in my area!
well are they hmmm CHICAGO????  IL.???
All Ages?

DIGGER

>I just wanted to vent my frustration with the agencies who have handled
>Orbital tours now and in the past.
>
>It seems that this is the third time Salt Lake City has been fucked for an
>Orbital tour.  Despite generous offers, spacious venues, and a lot of hard
>work each time they go on tour, we always get screwed in the end.
>
>Orbital once stated that their stop in Salt Lake on their first tour was the
>best for the entire tour.  It is truly sad that the agency's wishes fly in
>the face of the artists more often than not.
>
>I am fed up with the crap treatment I have received from these people.  If
>Orbital ever wants to play in this area again, the agency is going to have to
>beg me to do it, rather than the other way around.  I don't even do raves or
>concerts anymore, but I have made an exception each time for the Orbital tour.
>
>Sorry for this public venting to the list, but I thought this is something the
>fans would want to know about.
>
>Over and out,
>
>Pete
>
>
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    Digger
             [e-mail]
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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:15:26 +0000

DONT EVER....tell me what ORBITAL is about.
I eat Orbital, i chew Orbital, I swallow Orbital and shit Orbital.
Orbital has been in my veins from the very beginning ... Do you know all
your facts from Orbital themselves ...  would you like me to ask them.

I dont want to throw up my arms in the air and i say i know Orbital, i
know Orbital. Im NOT like that. I appreciate their music.

What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and
Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital
is.

As u said:-

>(not to mention the idiots who believe every word they say to be fact)
Tell us some fucking facts ?

In Response
OK. I understand why you are saying this, and I do need to aplogise.
The method in which I preached was a bit too harsh, and as a result of this,
I can understand why we got angry about this.

All I meant to say was this, and once again I need to apologise for getting
above myself:
Orbital are undoubtedly a fantastic band, and all I was trying to say when it
comes down to it is "lets enjoy their music together".
There are many different ways to enjoy music, and even though I may not eat chew
and shit Orbital, I certainly eat chew and shit music in general. I have been
thoroughly experiment with every aspect of music I can think of for years.
FUCK i have even listened to music while conducting an ASTRAL PROJECTION (which
basically means getting your soul to leave your body) in my bedroom.

Whether you believe this or not is irrelevant because the fact is that Orbital
are fucking excellent. You can see other sides of their excellence simply by
being in different states of mind.

So once again, sorry; let's share their excellence without forcing it down each
others throats.

Peace.
Jonny.

ps - I hope I have cleared things up with anyone who was offended by my last
     e-mail.

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:32:02 +0000


In response to this understandable comment about myself:

"What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and
 Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what Orbital"

Wheteher or not government or doctors, etc discredit NATURAL hallucinogenic
substances (how can something which God created to grow naturally be illegal?)
or not, what I was trying to say was that though they certainly do have down
sides, it is up to the individual to decide wheter or not the good outweighs
the bad.

When I listened to Orbital tripping out, though I had never realised before how
scary Orbitals music was, the good fucking blasted the bad to smitherines (or
however you spell that word). And I just wanted to share this with everyone -
There are many different "In Sides" to every music.

I am certainly not a smack head; a bit of a hippy, ok.
Sorry for pulling another (great) band into the picture, but I am just trying
to help demonstrate what I was originally trying to point out:
Here's a quote from Layne Staley of Alice In Chains who is a smack head:
(not that I would ever consider trying that UN-NATURAL poison):

"You can't understand a user's mind
 But try, with your books and degrees
 If you let yourself go and opened your mind
 I'll bet you'd be doing like me
 And it ain't so bad!"

Obviously, you can see how this applies to me. And I am not trying to say that
nobody understands me, simply that you don't know one out of many aspects of
music unless you try it for yourself. I am sure there are still many things
about music that people could tell me. FUCKING EXCELLENT! I personally would be
happy to try anything for music, especially Orbitals.

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:SATAN
Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:41:51 GMT

Digger wrote:
>I was just curious if any one could shine some light on what
>inspired the song (cut)
>        Satan???

mmmm...They do like the "does god exist" theory. Maybe this was them going
off on a slight tangent. I would have to ask them...be about a month
though. They are going somewhere...wonder where !

>I know that steve would know because he eats sleeps and shits ORBITAL!

heheheh...i dreamt about my Dad dying and Paul Hartnoll dying last night.
What does that tell you... i should also put in Dreams Orbital. :)

>        Also and light sheding on Out There Some Where!
>        Same thing just what inspired it and background info!

The "OutThereSomewhere" track is to do with Aliens and their existance. I
believe (not certain) that it was a film journey of the aliens landing and
then them leaving. Hence the uplifting ending as the aliens got off our
smelly planet. Again...only two people know the correct answer to this
one.

> P.S. Thanks for the pictures Anne!!!  If any one wants COOL pictures
>of orbital         tours get ahold of ANNE!  They Kick!

They do! They do!
I was that impressed with them that 3 are in the second issue of LOOPZ
which is still not for sale :(
Bloody house moving!

Cheers

Steve "damn...my sig file aint on this pc" Loopz Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:06:20 GMT

John wrote
>In response to this understandable comment about myself:

>"What i dont appreciate is smackheads preaching that Orbital is this and
> Orbital is that. You wouldnt know where to begin describing what
>Orbital"

>Wheteher or not government or doctors, etc discredit NATURAL
>hallucinogenic substances (how can something which God created to grow
>naturally be illegal?)

I thought this was an Orbital list not a drug list or an anti-government
list. You obviously believe in God ... not everyone does nether....but
anyway it aint a DoesGodExist list or is it?

>There are many different "In Sides" to every music.

There is but its just music, sometimes music with a message. You put it on
and you decide what it does for you and whether you want to indulge in
whatever. No one can control anyone. I dislike the idea that when u tell
people the music u are into they presume you a drug-taker in some form.
Thats why i dont like people shouting from a mailing list about drugs and
Orbital, do we want to give people the impression that Orbital is all
about Drugs!

>I am certainly not a smack head; a bit of a hippy, ok.
>Sorry for pulling another (great) band into the picture, but I am just
>trying to help demonstrate what I was originally trying to point out:

Orbital are two people who create music (full stop) or (period for state
side ;)    )

They dont want to promote drugs...if you think that. not saying u do but
they DONT want to promote drugs or drug taking.

Its music with a message.

its your choice

Steve LOOPZ Price.
(sig spaced out on another drive)

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SATAN
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:15:26 +0000

Digger wrote:
>I was just curious if any one could shine some light on what
>inspired the song (cut)
>        Satan???

mmmm...They do like the "does god exist" theory. Maybe this was them going
off on a slight tangent. I would have to ask them...be about a month
though. They are going somewhere...wonder where !

>I know that steve would know because he eats sleeps and shits ORBITAL!

heheheh...i dreamt about my Dad dying and Paul Hartnoll dying last night.
What does that tell you... i should also put in Dreams Orbital. :)

>        Also and light sheding on Out There Some Where!
>        Same thing just what inspired it and background info!

The "OutThereSomewhere" track is to do with Aliens and their existance. I
believe (not certain) that it was a film journey of the aliens landing and
then them leaving. Hence the uplifting ending as the aliens got off our
smelly planet. Again...only two people know the correct answer to this
one.

> P.S. Thanks for the pictures Anne!!!  If any one wants COOL pictures
>of orbital         tours get ahold of ANNE!  They Kick!

They do! They do!
I was that impressed with them that 3 are in the second issue of LOOPZ
which is still not for sale :(
Bloody house moving!

Cheers

Steve "damn...my sig file aint on this pc" Loopz Price



Hmmm....
Has everyone heard the remixes of "THE BOX" with the door creaking and the
horribly scary piano playing out of key notes ? - WOW!
How fucking scary can that song be if you work yourself into the right state of
mind and turn the lights out ?
I haven't heard the song called SATAN, but one time when I heard that box remix
I felt so scared that I had this vision of me dancing with Satan.
I could presume that this SATAN song perhaps sounds a bit scary?
If so perhaps it could be a song which is meant to bring out parts of yourself
(such as fear and evil) that you are afraid of and not too familiar with....?

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 13:23:34 +0000

STEVE LOOPS wrote:
Wheteher or not government or doctors, etc discredit NATURAL
I thought this was an Orbital list not a drug list or an anti-government
list.

I thought this was an Orbital list not a drug list or an anti-government
list. You obviously believe in God ... not everyone does nether....but
anyway it aint a DoesGodExist list or is it?

There are different in sides to music but its just music, sometimes music with
a message. You put it on and you decide what it does for you and whether you
want to indulge in whatever. No one can control anyone. I dislike the idea that
when u tell people the music u are into they presume you a drug-taker in some
form. Thats why i dont like people shouting from a mailing list about drugs and
Orbital, do we want to give people the impression that Orbital is all
about Drugs!


Jonny responds:
COOL! Gee after all that tension it seems like we'll be able to come to an
agreement. If this doesn't sound fair to you (because I am trying to sound fair
though it doesn't always come naturally to me) just tell me so:

I am not trying to turn this list into an anti-government list, a drugs list or
a DoesGodExist list - I am simply trying to draw some parallels which to me,
through experiences, seem so important that I have to tell everyone about them.
I am not some evil sadistic bastard who wants everyone to suffer and hate me for
it.

It is NOT just music. Music is the drive of my life; more important than drugs,
problems with the government, insecurities about the existence of a higher power
or anything else; it parallels with love. Orbital is not about drugs, but when
you choose to experiment with your soul and with natural hallucinogens which make
you feel in touch with your spirit.... and then you bung In Sides on the CD
player, FUCK! It is like being in what you imagine to be heaven, (or if you took
a bit too much it can be like being in hell).

I simply wanted to point out NOT that Orbital is about drugs (though after
writing drug-influenced music I can feel strong links between Orbital's and my
own suggesting that at one stage they have toyed around with them) and not that
everyone into Orbital should be into drugs. Just that the option is there, and
if you choose it, and are careful - (ie by researching into the idea of taking a
substance).

If you were to try it out under careful, controlled circumstances, you would
definitely not be sorry. You would discover a part of music which you never even
realised existed, especially with a fantastic band like Orbital. Ok there are
other amazing aspects of music which have nothing to do with anything I have been
writing about - I just wanted to bring to light one aspect which for myself
personally, on occasions does great things for my insight into myself and the
wonderful music of the best bands in the universe, such as Orbital.

I hope we have reached an understanding of each others opinions. If so, I shall
no longer comment on drugs or governments.

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: "Mick George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:31:53 -0800

the flying scotsman wrote....
>
> All I meant to say was this, and once again I need to apologise for
getting
> above myself:

really

> basically means getting your soul to leave your body) in my bedroom.

i don't think it came back

> So once again, sorry; let's share their excellence without forcing it
down each
> others throats.

lets

> ps - I hope I have cleared things up with anyone who was offended by my
last
>      e-mail.

i think that's everyone m8

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli

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From: "Mick George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SATAN
Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:44:01 -0800

jon spewed...
> How fucking scary can that song be if you work yourself into the right
state of
> mind and turn the lights out ?

god knows where your mind went

> I haven't heard the song called SATAN, but one time when I heard that box
remix
> I felt so scared that I had this vision of me dancing with Satan.

what the fuck are you on

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli


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From: "Mick George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:53:58 -0800

 jon said...

>; more important than drugs,

i think you're telling porkies here m8

>though after writing drug-influenced music

and mail ?

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli

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From: [e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
Subject: evil sadistic bastard
Date: 31 Oct 1996 10:08:23 -0500

Enough with the crap.  Why are still insisting on all this "experience"
crap!!!!!!! - it's seems to be all that you ever talk about??  So SHUT UP
and lets paly like nice guys and gals and talk about Orbital NOT what you
can do with it.  To those who missed out read or browse through all the
Scot! messages.
        Don't quite think Dead Cities matches up to Accelerator but I
haven't really listened to all of it yet - as Steve said "Go and Buy" -
nice cd.
        To whoever was wondering about Chicago - I personally don't know if
Orbital will be stopping by there it's just a guess due to what they've
done in the past!  BUT I will be there, I'm in Columbus, Ohio so it's not
too far a drive.  I know DIGGER will be there - anyone else????


StarPango=81



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From: "Yan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Paul Mison's band list
Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:08:18 +0000

Long shot, but does anyone have the www address of Paul Mison's
"other bands enjoyed by Orbital fans" list? I seem to have lost it...

yan
Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SATAN
Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:02:15 +0000

jonny spewed...
> How fucking scary can that song be if you work yourself into the right
> state of mind and turn the lights out ?

god knows where your mind went

> I haven't heard the song called SATAN, but one time when I heard that box
> remix I felt so scared that I had this vision of me dancing with Satan.

what the fuck are you on
l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli


Jonny re-replies:
Ha. Fucking Cool. I WAS on something at the time. By now i am probably fucking
notorious on this mail-list for being Mr.Pro-Natural-Hallucinogenic-Drugs or
something! Anyway, ok when that happened I was tripping out. It was fucking scary
at the time, man, and when I think about that experience while listening to that
remix it reminds me how scared I was. What a rush. At least I understand what
they were trying to do. Think about it. That is one of the most eerie tunes you
have ever heard in your life, and you just need your own head to figure that out;
nothing else. If I were to tell you that magic mushrooms multiply the emotion
being conveyed by a song pretty much infinitely, I am sure you could understand
why I felt that way. What a cool experience that was thinking back. Fucked up,
but hey, it's my head and my choice and I FUCKING LOVE Orbital's music.

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: [e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 10:10:43 -0500

>the flying scotsman wrote....
>>
>> All I meant to say was this, and once again I need to apologise for
>getting
>> above myself:
>
>really
>
>> basically means getting your soul to leave your body) in my bedroom.
>
>i don't think it came back
>
>> So once again, sorry; let's share their excellence without forcing it
>down each
>> others throats.
>
>lets
>
>> ps - I hope I have cleared things up with anyone who was offended by my
>last
>>      e-mail.
>
>i think that's everyone m8
>
>l8r
>mick george
>[e-mail]
>irc --- eastangli

Mick cracked a FUNNY about the Scot!! - I like it :)))))

StarPango=81



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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:06:49 +0000

the flying scotsman wrote....
> All I meant to say was this, and once again I need to apologise for
> getting above myself:

really

> basically means getting your soul to leave your body) in my bedroom.

i don't think it came back

> So once again, sorry; let's share their excellence without forcing it
> down each others throats.

lets

> ps - I hope I have cleared things up with anyone who was offended by my
> last e-mail.

i think that's everyone m8

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli


Jonny (the flying Scotsman) replies;
Cool. I like your sense of humour (I hope that's what it is anyway)
Anyway, I can guarantee you that I did travel back into my physical body.
So.... enough of these small-talk arguments - We all know the most important
issue on these pages is Orbital's Music.

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:20:00 +0000

mick said...

> more important than drugs,

i think you're telling porkies here m8

>though after writing drug-influenced music

and mail ?

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli


I (jonny) reply:
Haha. Cool. You just get funnier all the time. Seriously.
I can assure you that I am perfectly straight when I write to these mailing
pages because I am at university when I do so.
I still have the capacity to think rationally (I hope so anyway) -
Here's a rational thought to prove it:
Let's stop this fucking idiotic slagging game. You seem to be missing the point,
no offence Mick. Orbital - remember that band.... uh-huh.
You.... are.... supposed.... to.... be.... writing.... about.... Orbital.
Did you get it that time?
Ok. I hope that's sorted things out.

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: Robert Rowan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:25:57 GMT



Man, what is the scene with this whole "Orbital and drugs and John the Scot
vs Loopz" dispute thing which has been developing on this list? Its getting
very heated. I think maybe people should just chill out a bit. After all,
everyone has their own views on a variety of different shit, but ultimately
we're all here to discuss what has brought us together, ie the undeniably
excellent music of Orbital (which I'm listening to as I write this). You may
not agree with everything you read, but the beauty of having different
opinions is that you can objectively analyse them to see shit in a new light.
Everyone in this debate has a valid point of view but maybe you shuld avoid
ramming it down each others throats in this "I'm a bigger Orbital fan than
you" argument.
Maybe we should concentrate on creating a more positive vibe on this list by
respecting fellow Orbital headz a bit more and chilling out a bit.

Flushing over and Out.




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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: evil sadistic bastard
Date: 31 Oct 1996 14:24:59 +0000

Star Pango writes:

Enough with the crap.  Why are still insisting on all this "experience"
crap!!!!!!! - it's seems to be all that you ever talk about??  So SHUT UP
and lets paly like nice guys and gals and talk about Orbital NOT what you
can do with it.  To those who missed out read or browse through all the
Scot! messages.
        Don't quite think Dead Cities matches up to Accelerator but I
haven't really listened to all of it yet - as Steve said "Go and Buy" -
nice cd.
        To whoever was wondering about Chicago - I personally don't know if
Orbital will be stopping by there it's just a guess due to what they've
done in the past!  BUT I will be there, I'm in Columbus, Ohio so it's not
too far a drive.  I know DIGGER will be there - anyone else????


Jonny replies:
Will you PLEASE stop missing the point ?
I was simply offering the idea that there are many ways to listen to Orbital,
and if we are not scared of ourselves or music, we should try listening to
Orbital in as many different ways as wish to. Surely commenting on this is a
valid topic about Orbital if the end result is the ability to see the bands
music from as many different perspectives as possible ?
Expansion of the mind, not of the ego!!!
Peace.
Jonny.

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From: Jonathon Sammeroff TBS94 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:02:08 +0000

Robert Rowan wrote:
Man, what is the scene with this whole "Orbital and drugs and John the Scot
vs Loopz" dispute thing which has been developing on this list? Its getting
very heated. I think maybe people should just chill out a bit. After all,
everyone has their own views on a variety of different shit, but ultimately
we're all here to discuss what has brought us together, ie the undeniably
excellent music of Orbital (which I'm listening to as I write this). You may
not agree with everything you read, but the beauty of having different
opinions is that you can objectively analyse them to see shit in a new light.
Everyone in this debate has a valid point of view but maybe you shuld avoid
ramming it down each others throats in this "I'm a bigger Orbital fan than
you" argument.
Maybe we should concentrate on creating a more positive vibe on this list by
respecting fellow Orbital headz a bit more and chilling out a bit.

Flushing over and Out.


Jonny Replies:
Myself and Loopz (and obviously yourself) are huge Orbital fans.
We are simply two people trying to reach an agreement; trying to get our minds to
meet at an amicable point. I think this is quite important. Think how
further fucked up the world would be if people couldn't even come to agreement!

When I put forward my views on Orbital and what seemed to be related topics, I
was expecting this response to occur. Not so I could argue with people -
Simply because I wanted to share views on Orbital and music with people who have
good taste in music, in hope that we could come to significant agreements on the
band and the previously mentioned topics which I promised Loopz I would stop
talking about.

Robert, you are obviously a chilled out guy who has sussed the score out to a
self-satisfactory extent (hope you know what I am referring to) and are
concentrating on just enjoying the music of Orbital. What I am trying to achieve
is getting others to give me advice on new ways of enjoying Orbital's music (ie
not just the conventional way of bunging it on under any circumstances; I have
achieved this a good few hundred times by now) by first offering them my own
viewpoint. This is important to me. And if this seems irrelevant to you, or
anyone else, I apologise - if this is the case, all you have to do is ignore what
I write.

Even though my views may seem warped to many of you, try to see how it looks from
where I am sitting. Now, I am going home to listen to these "The Box" remixes
again!

Peace.
Jonny.

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From: "Mike Henderson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Remix question...
Date: 31 Oct 1996 08:37:43 -0700

Howdy...

I've been away from the list for quite a while, and happened across this
tid-bit on http://sirencd.com/future.htm:

Shamen ò Stars On 45 (Remix Collection) CD $22.99 Top remixes by Orbital,
808 State, Meat Beat Manifesto, Moby & others, divided into 4 parts:
Alternative, House, Acid & Ambient. Release Date: 2-Dec-96

Anyone know what track Orbital mixed for them, (I know, I know, "check the
discography, you pinhead!") or is this a new mix?
(BTW (Spam-city) -- For you folks in North America, this place, Siren CD,
although God-aweful expensive, gets damn near every CD released in Europe!)

Thanks,
Mike

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From: Al Arzaga <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: evil sadistic bastard
Date: 31 Oct 1996 09:42:40 -0600 (CST)

>
>         To whoever was wondering about Chicago - I personally don't know if
> Orbital will be stopping by there it's just a guess due to what they've
> done in the past!

What they did in the past (as of last July 3rd) _was_ stop at Chicago...
At the Metro.  A DAMN fine show, it was...


>BUT I will be there, I'm in Columbus, Ohio so it's not
> too far a drive.  I know DIGGER will be there - anyone else????

If I don't move out of the area (Chicagoland) in the next month or
so, I'll definitely be there.



aL

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Paul Mison's band list
Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:50:24 GMT

http://members.aol.com/orbital101/band.html

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:"Yan" <[e-mail]>
 Long shot, but does anyone have the www address of Paul Mison's
"other bands enjoyed by Orbital fans" list? I seem to have lost it...

yan
Ian Silvester,              "He dreams.. while he's not sleeping"
Research Associate.                             - The Chameleons

=====================================================================

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:45:58 GMT


John spoketh....
>I simply wanted to point out NOT that Orbital is about drugs (though
>after writing drug-influenced music I can feel strong links between
>Orbital's and my own suggesting that at one stage they have toyed around
>with them) and not that everyone into Orbital should be into drugs. Just
>that the option is there, and if you choose it, and are careful - (ie by
>researching into the idea of taking a substance).

Loopz throws his hands in the air and shouts
"Your obsessed by it...." ...
Can i talk about my mouse giving birth to mice this weekend ?

Cheers

Steve "No longer wishes to talk anymore" LOOPZ Price.
(where is that file gone!)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
Subject: Re: SATAN
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:00:42 -0500

>jonny spewed...
>Ha. Fucking Cool. I WAS on something at the time. By now i am probably fuck=
ing
>notorious on this mail-list for being Mr.Pro-Natural-Hallucinogenic-Drugs o=
r
>something!

Oh OK that must be something to be proud of!!

>Anyway, ok when that happened I was tripping out. It was fucking scary
>at the time, man, and when I think about that experience while listening
>to that
>remix it reminds me how scared I was.

Sounds like a hospital visit would do you good.

>What a rush.

To the Hospital I might add again.

>At least I understand what they were trying to do.

What were things a little blurry in reality or something??

>Think about it. That is one of the most eerie tunes you
>have ever heard in your life, and you just need your own head to figure
>that out;

Sounds like your using less than your head, bet you have your own B.A.S.E.
in that empty space up there.

>nothing else. If I were to tell you that magic mushrooms multiply the emoti=
on
>being conveyed by a song pretty much infinitely, I am sure you could unders=
tand
>why I felt that way.

Are we getting all touchy feely now - isn't that cute!

>What a cool experience that was thinking back. Fucked up,
>but hey, it's my head and my choice

More like whatever is left of your head , it must be hard to make decisions
about things.

>and I FUCKING LOVE Orbital's music.

You need FUCKING HELP (disregard loving orbital's music)

StarPango=81



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From: Robert Rowan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 16:08:10 GMT

Johnny,
Nice one m8.  Let's all just put this thing to rest. Orbital are fucking
amazing. Let's all join in celebration of their music.
Hooray!

Once again flushing over and Out




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From: [e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
Subject: Other Mixes
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:22:45 -0500

        Does anyone know if there are any other singles/mixes off of In
Sides other than The Box??

StarPango=81



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Orbital and Drugs
Date: 31 Oct 1996 16:30:35 GMT


>Man, what is the scene with this whole "Orbital and drugs and John the
>Scot vs Loopz" dispute thing which has been developing on this list? Its
>getting very heated.

My disagreement was Orbital and Drugs.....thats all.
Just didnt want the wrong impression of the guys.

Ill say no more.

Steve LOOPZ Price

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Other Mixes
Date: 31 Oct 1996 16:49:19 GMT

There is a P.E.T.R.O.L (original) version on the Wipeout compilation.
There is Adnan (original) on the Help charity album.

Both of these were extended and revamped for In Sides.

None otheres...that i can think of. Apart from live stuff.

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price.

----------------------[Reply - Original Message]----------------------

Sent by:[e-mail] ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?StarPango=81?= )
         Does anyone know if there are any other singles/mixes off of In
Sides other than The Box??

StarPango=81



=====================================================================

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Jonny - take a deep breath!
Date: 31 Oct 1996 15:59:28 GMT


Jonny bloody said:-

>no offence Mick. Orbital - remember that band.... uh-huh.
>You.... are.... supposed.... to.... be.... writing.... about.... Orbital.
>Did you get it that time?
>Ok. I hope that's sorted things out.

Look look look Jonny....Mick has no trouble talking/writing about Orbital.
I speak to him a lot and he comes across as a sound geezer. Ahem..but you
havent really helped yourself have u. A lot of out-of-body drug-crazy
comments and then you ask Mick to talk Orbital.
My advice (dont take it if u dont) is sit back have yourself a spliff and
consider whether you are gonna be an assist to the list or a hinder!

You have pissed a lot of people off....a lot...maybe an IRC session on
Sunday might clear your head. Sunday 1900hrs British time onwards
(Uk.Undernet.Org Orbital channel).

>Peace.

annnniiihh.....i wont continue.

Steve LOOPZ Price.

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From: "Mick George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:42:30 -0800

 Robert Rowan <[e-mail]> wrote....
<edit>
I think maybe people should just chill out a bit. After all,
> everyone has their own views on a variety of different shit, but
ultimately
> we're all here to discuss what has brought us together, ie the undeniably
> excellent music of Orbital

i really don't give a flying toaster about the geezers state of mind when
he's listening to music, but when he keeps going on and on and on......
you'd think he just discovered some new drug or somethin' i for one would
rather text'd about something INTERESTING.

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli


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From: "Mick George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: evil sadistic bastard
Date: 31 Oct 1996 11:44:30 -0800

SIR Jonny spoke....
> Will you PLEASE stop missing the point ?
> I was simply offering the idea that there are many ways to listen to
Orbital,
> and if we are not scared of ourselves or music, we should try listening
to
> Orbital in as many different ways as wish to. Surely commenting on this
is a
> valid topic about Orbital if the end result is the ability to see the
bands
> music from as many different perspectives as possible ?
> Expansion of the mind, not of the ego!!!

i'd like to here P&P opinion on this would'nt you?

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: re:Out of it ?
Date: 31 Oct 1996 17:25:45 GMT


>  Robert Rowan <[e-mail]> wrote....
><edit>
>I think maybe people should just chill out a bit. After all,
>> everyone has their own views on a variety of different shit, but
>ultimately
>> we're all here to discuss what has brought us together, ie the
>undeniably
>> excellent music of Orbital

Rowan , music yes....drugs no.
Maybe Jonny can speak personally to people who are intersted. Im here for
Orbital and the music. Im sick to death about hearing drugs and all that.
You can understand why people Unsubscribe from the list. They dont want to
read this crap. Saying that we dont have to read it is no answer...most
people are downloading the crap...waste of bloody bandwidth.
Im seriously considering buggering off ... and i bet im not the only one.

Steve "its my ball and im going home" LOOPZ Price.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Paul Mison's band list
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:26:29 -0500

In a message dated 31/10/96  14:08:50, you write:

>Long shot, but does anyone have the www address of Paul Mison's
>"other bands enjoyed by Orbital fans" list? I seem to have lost it...

Hmmm.... :O) I gather Steve's already replied to the list, but thanks for
asking! I aught to link it to the rest of the site, 'official' gateway
(guaranteed for *two years*) is http://www.york.ac.uk/~wjb101/orbital.html
(one for your bookmark? 'he asked cheekily') but as you've found that doesn't
have any links to the band pages yet. Hope you're happy with your entries, if
not please let us know.

Cheers etc, Paul


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Paul Mison's band list
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:28:52 -0500

Oops, sorry about that last email, the reply button went a bit haywire. Umm,
to make up for it I'll change the news page to mention the new US live dates
that have been mentioned on the list. There's also a bit from the NME that
got posted to IDM which I'll put up concerning the UK dates.

Sorry again.....

Paul Mison                         [e-mail]
obviously half asleep, it's the clocks you know....

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From: "Mick George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: remixes
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:47:10 -0800

i have a question regarding the remixes found on Diversions...
who decided on a remix album?
do artist's pick out  other artist's work and say "yeah i could do a wicked
remix of that" or something along those line's then contact them about it?
do the band members get involved or is it a record label thing?
i have alway's wondered how these things's get started and will their be
another "Diversions"

l8r
mick george
[e-mail]
irc --- eastangli

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: remixes
Date: 31 Oct 1996 13:06:35 -0500

In a message dated 31/10/96  17:49:01, Mick wrote:

>i have a question regarding the remixes found on Diversions...
>who decided on a remix album?
>do artist's pick out  other artist's work and say "yeah i could do a wicked
>remix of that" or something along those line's then contact them about it?
>do the band members get involved or is it a record label thing?
>i have alway's wondered how these things's get started and will their be
>another "Diversions"
>
>l8r
>mick george

From what I've read in magazine articles, it's often lead by the record
company. CJ Bolland's comments in a recent magazine (sorry, forgotten which)
that he likes his mix of Lush while Orbital hate it could bear this out. As
to a 'son of diversions', Orbital haven't been remixed since Rabbit in the
Moon did 'Are We Here?' a couple of years ago (at least, not officially,
afaik). I stand ready to be corrected :O)

The NME article on Ally Pally (worth reading for UK peeps at least) is at
http://members.aol.com/orbital101/nmeart.html
If people want it posted to the list, I'll do that too.

Cheers, Paul Mison                [e-mail]
"working" late tonight.....

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: evil sadistic bastard
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:23:10 -0600

If they're going to Chicago I will most DEFINITELY be there.


"Check this good shit out" --Dolemite
http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Re: Message for John (the scot!)
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:24:51 -0600

Do all Scottish people curse like you do?  "Fuck"-laden paragraphs just
make my day.



----the anal observer

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From: [e-mail] (Anthony Agee)
Subject: Orbital's drums....
Date: 31 Oct 1996 12:35:29 -0600

Does anybody have any idea which drum machines Orbital used for their Times
Fly songs?  Are they just sampled or something?



"Check this good shit out" --Dolemite
http://www.wwi.net/orbital/home.htm

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From: [e-mail] (Al Arzaga)
Subject: Places to find techno CDs on the net.
Date: 31 Oct 1996 17:17:39 -0600

> For you folks in North America, this place, Siren CD,
>although God-aweful expensive, gets damn near every CD released in Europe!)
>

Hrm..  Couldn't find much of what I could find here, though:

http://www.xmission.com/~ear

Living in America and looking for a hard-to-find
jungle/dub/techno/ambient/etc. import?  This is the place.

Next best one w/ speedier service, but not as large an inventory is:

http://www.cdconnection.com/




aL
--
Alden Arzaga
[e-mail]
http://www.xnet.com/~broohaha
"What were the skies like when you were young?"



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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: PLEASE READ THIS!
Date: 31 Oct 1996 19:42:27 -0600

Hi this is DIGGER saying hi to all you Orbital Freaks! ahhh yeahhh! they rule!
any way! i am trying to make a good point in this letter so please read it
and pay attention!
thanx!
__________________________I wrote this stuff earlier_____________________
I was just curious if any one could shine some light on what
inspired the song
        Satan???
I know that steve would know because he eats sleeps and shits ORBITAL!

        Also and light sheding on Out There Some Where!
        Same thing just what inspired it and background info!


P.S. Thanks for the pictures Anne!!!  If any one wants COOL pictures
of orbital         tours get ahold of ANNE!  They Kick!
_________________________I am saying this now!________________________
I was asking some simple stuff about ORBITAL ya know the kind of stuff that
is supposed to be put on the list and i get all kinds os psycho and mental crap!
I find out more then i really want to know about some people on the list,
but no names (the scott)!


I know what to get some of you guys for x-mas!
oh remember that number i think it is 1-800-CHARTER
(i know that the US people will know what this is! not sure about the rest
of you!)
:) LOL
____________________________The kind of crap i got from this letter___________

jonny spewed...
 How fucking scary can that song be if you work yourself into the right
 state of mind and turn the lights out ?

god knows where your mind went

 I haven't heard the song called SATAN, but one time when I heard that box
 remix I felt so scared that I had this vision of me dancing with Satan.

what the fuck are you on
                *******I would like to ask the same thing!*******

Jonny re-replies:
Ha. Fucking Cool. I WAS on something at the time. By now i am probably fucking
notorious on this mail-list for being Mr.Pro-Natural-Hallucinogenic-Drugs or
something! Anyway, ok when that happened I was tripping out. It was fucking
scary
at the time, man, and when I think about that experience while listening to
that
remix it reminds me how scared I was. What a rush. At least I understand what
they were trying to do. Think about it. That is one of the most eerie tunes you
have ever heard in your life, and you just need your own head to figure that
out;
nothing else. If I were to tell you that magic mushrooms multiply the emotion
being conveyed by a song pretty much infinitely, I am sure you could understand
why I felt that way. What a cool experience that was thinking back. Fucked up,
but hey, it's my head and my choice and I FUCKING LOVE Orbital's music.
___________________________THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS___________
This kind of crap sucks!
I am not saying ANYTHING bad about any one person or what ever.
This is not the kind of stuff i want to go check my e-mail for!

thanks for paying attention! (for those of you who did!)

Digger
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Thank You,
    Digger
             [e-mail]
                   Http://www.jorsm.com/~digger
        I Am Lost And Have Gone To Look For Myself
           If I Should Get Back Before I Return Please Ask Me To Wait.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@


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From: "Christopher J. Karpinsky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: It's a fine day...
Date: 31 Oct 1996 23:43:09 -0500

Hey Everyone,

I wonder if someone can help me out...  Why when I hear "It's a Fine Day"
(by Opus III I think) do I always think it sounds like Orbital?  I guess I
am thinking it is like HALCYON+ON+ON, a fine tune from the last track from
the Brown CD.

Does anyone also find a similarity here?  Is it more than coincidental?  I
think it has to do with the female vocals, but I can't place it.

Thanks!

-Chris
______________________________________________________________________
Christopher J. Karpinsky         Massachusetts Institute of Technology
mailto:[e-mail]                                   EECS Department
http://www.mit.edu/people/sirhc        cooltalk:[e-mail]


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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: DC nov.21st
Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:12:46 -0500

The show is at the 9:30 club. I just buy my tickets at their box office,
but you can call for more info 202-393-0930. See you there!

mike!
[e-mail]
http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm
Visual P. wrote:
>
> Anyone have any more info on the nov. 21st date in Washington DC?  Are
> tickets on sale yet?  Is it through ticketmaster?  thanks.
>
> -UE

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From: "Michael A. Polisky" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Orbital\Spring Heeled Jack in D.C. 11/21
Date: 12 Oct 1996 09:03:34 -0500

Spring Helled Jack is opening for Orbital here in D.C. and I have never
heard of them. I remember someone on the list talking about them. Could
someone give me their opinion on them or their style, etc.

Thanks
mike!
[e-mail]
http://pages.prodigy.com/GNRF13C/map1.htm

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From: Shad Clark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital stickers
Date: 14 Oct 1996 13:31:28 -0400

Albert Rivera wrote:
>
> I've got five yellow and black orbital logo stickers that I snaked from KROQ
> (a local radio station) while at Organic.  Anybody want one?  E-mail me
> privately...
>
> albert
> [e-mail]


Albert,

    I don't know if you'd want anything in exchange but I'd love one!

                                Shad

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From: Shad Clark <[e-mail]>
Subject: *confused*
Date: 18 Oct 1996 05:52:30 -0400

~Hot Legs~ wrote:
> who are you and why am i getting your email? ...*confused*

    Hmm... That's a good question. Who are YOU and why am I getting YOUR email?

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: techno site
Date: 03 Oct 1996 22:03:19 -0700

hey techno-junkies...

im starting up a techno site: http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish/techno.html

if ya got some clips, related sites, whatever, email me... later...





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Shad Clark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orlando's Scene
Date: 25 Oct 1996 02:27:53 -0400

The Edge must be avoided at all costs!!! It's no longer a decent club! In fact,
it's now a country club! Well... Not exactly a country club per se... More like a club
that caters to people who love country music. Unless you're a hick, it'll make you sick.
    Firestone is about the only club that plays mostly techno. It's in downtown
Orlando. Other than that... hmm... Does your friend listen to much else? Most of the
other clubs have different themes on different nights.

                                    Shad

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: techno site
Date: 04 Oct 1996 17:35:13 -0700

>Sounds cool my man.  Hay, if you need people to write reviews and stuff, I'm
>available and have mad skills as I have been working with fanzines for
>years.
>E-mail my ass @ [e-mail].
>Oh yeah, my name is Steve.

das cool...  im looking more for audio clips of various groups and any
other related sites..  i was just looking at the page and it seems very
empty.. i just need to fill it up...  if you have a page with your reviews,
id be glad to add a link...  thanx dude!!!




        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital show
Date: 06 Oct 1996 00:28:21 -0700

>On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Eirik Johnson wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm going to see orbital this thursday at the H.O.B. in New Orleans.  It's
>> my first
>> orbital concert and i can't wait.  I'm new to orbital's music, and i just
>> bought In Sides and i think tracks 7,8 (Out There Somewhere?) is the best
>> piece of
>> music i've heard in a long time.
>
>    You know, I think it's my favorite, too. If you like that, you're
>in for a good time because they've been playing the whole damn thing to
>open every show. Just be ready for the "I'll remember if it's the last
>thing I do" to knock you flat... (Muahahahaha.)

    That vocal clip sounds like my girlfriend kinda.. scary in a way...
just thought id say this... B^P
    BTW... if your new to the Orbital tunes, like me in a way, check
out Diversions... its probably one of my favorite CDs...  if ya can get it,
get it!!  it is niiiice...

later...





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: If you were (FINAL)
Date: 09 Oct 1996 00:05:43 -0700

>A:
>Out there Some Where (how did you ever guess) (thought i would start it out
>like i've heard they been strating the live concerts here in the states!)
>SATAN
>Halycyon + On + On (Brown Album version)
>Are We Here?
>Quality Seconds
>Kein Trink Wasser
>Crash and Carry
>Planet Of The Shapes
>Times Fly
>Sad But New

good!!! i was hoping you'd get Crash and Carry in their!!! goes great with
good fast moving visuals...  nice dance song too... later!!





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Hey!
Date: 09 Oct 1996 00:17:02 -0700

>[e-mail] wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone! I just added myself to this mailing list and would like to say
>> hello! It's so great to be able to communicate with other avid orbital fans!
>> I am most likely going to see Orbital tonight with Springhead Jack in
>> Dallas(if I can get my family out of the house on time!) Oh well, talk
>>to you
>> guys later!-Allison
>
>
>hello alison
>just read the above. how the hell were they. I saw them in holland and
>germany on the european tour this year. every time a moving experience
>i will be seeing them on new years eve at the universe party. their set
>goes from 10.30 to 12.30 the perfect way into the new year
>
>j

ugh!!!  why does orbital always pass through Oregon???  they did stop at
Portland a while back, but i had to work....   im jealous of all of you who
have seen them live....  <sniff>







        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Shad Clark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: AMP is back.
Date: 27 Oct 1996 12:16:45 -0500

I say we all bombard MTV with email and snailmail and phone calls, requesting
AMP be installed as a regular fixture in their weekly scheduling.
    Just a thought...

                            Shad

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: AMP is back.
Date: 10 Oct 1996 15:06:11 -0700

>AMP is back on MTV.  In fact, it's on right now.
>Wow.  I have finally seen Ken Ishii's "Extra" video.
>Very cool animation.


Is AMP going to be on a permanent weekly sched.??  I saw it at around
12:30a PST late Sat. early Sun....  The Box was kinda a spiffy vid.....
also another quicky ?, what album is the Underworld tune on that AMP
showed... i think the tune was called "Cowgirl", but im not quite sure...
later....





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: 120 Minutes on MTV
Date: 11 Oct 1996 02:20:33 -0700

well the brothers are on 120 Mins.  ugh! my eyes are so tired.. they were
on at 2:00am.. if anyone taped it, maybe we can make a trade, that is if i
fall asleep.. ;^)    dang, The Box vid is cool......

later...





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: just curious
Date: 12 Oct 1996 19:04:11 -0700

what would everyone do if Orbital did get popular enuf to be played on
MTV.... lets say "The Box" became a Buzz Clip...  would all of you totally
bail on Orbital??  I do believe that pop. rock radio stations and MTV tend
to play the music over and over and soon kill it....  im just curious what
the reactions would be... later..





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: just curious
Date: 12 Oct 1996 22:06:07 -0700

>i'm sorry to say, but friday night MTV played orbital. along with autechre,
>chemical brothers, underworld and others. MTV sux.

ya i know... but it was on like at midnight... i just hope to god that AMP
doesnt kill Orbital, Chem. Bros (which is coming close to being killed with
"setting sun") and underworld by overplaying them...  luckly AMP is in a
fairly bad time slot....    i dont want to start a big argument on this
subject, but i was asking if all you true Orbital fans would bail on
Orbital, Underworld, etc. if it techno become popular...  now by techno i
am NOT refering to 2 Unlimited, La Bouche and all of that other crap...
those are not techno, they're complete sh*t....








        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Shad Clark <[e-mail]>
Subject: Success...
Date: 30 Oct 1996 00:39:51 -0500

For many years, I was totally appalled by the idea of a band I loved being
reeled into the mainstream. I mean... How often do you actually hear an incredible song
on the radio? Unless it's college radio, it's a rare occurence. When you're into music
that only an elite group of enlightened individuals appreciate, you often tend to want
to keep that music to yourself. It's cool to like music that's not considered cool by
everyone, right?
    Well... I've gotten to the point where I have mixed feelings about such ideas.
The people responsible for wonderful music (i.e. the Hartnoll bros.) deserve to rake in
lots of money, don't they? Shouldn't we yearn for their commercial success?
    Just a thought...

                            Shad

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Re: Volume...  (well, not really)
Date: 14 Oct 1996 12:25:27 -0700


>>Moby is weird though...heard 1000 or whatever its called....mad!

didnt Moby do a remix of Smashing Pumpkins "1979"???





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Money n the Brothers...
Date: 14 Oct 1996 20:49:41 -0700


>You know, you're absolutely right.  I'd give everything I have to be able
>to make music like them (who knows, I haven't tried....yet).  Money would
>be nice...but just think how great one could feel if they walked around and
>knew they were responsible for making "Impact" or "Somewhere Out There" and
>that there was a small, but very dedicated fan base?  Shit...money pales in
>comparison.


hmmmmm.... never thought about that... it would be so fricking awsome to
say to all of the fans "yep... i created Impact...."   and thousand of
people would basicly be worshiping your creativity....  crap!! i wish i had
some musical talent!!  (or any talent  B^P  )





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: L.A. show last night...
Date: 15 Oct 1996 16:51:38 -0700

>I was there last night too... but I'm not going to off on cool it was...
>
>Anyway, there's a radio station out here in L.A. that did a live interview
>with P&P tonight. I'll encode it into Real Audio format so people that
>aren't so lucky as to live in L.A. can listen to this thing..
>
>Anyone interested?
>I taped it.

heck ya!!  whats the address??






        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: I was nearly thrown out of of the LA show
Date: 15 Oct 1996 14:27:10 -0700

Several minutes later, I'm being spun around my the SAME
>security jerk and he says "GIVE ME YOUR CAMERA!"  Once again I said, "I
>don't have a camera!"  Well this wasn't good enough for him, so he started
>to search me.  At this point in time, I took my hands out of my pockets and
>defended myself by removing his hands from me.  Had he continued, I would
>have put his ass in jail.  It's illegal for a male to search a female (at
>least here in LA.  Dunno the laws in other states/countries).

<snip>

i dont like security guards....  Eugene, OR, which is where im from, has a
few raves here and there, and they accused me of dealing and tried to throw
me out to.. ta hell with em!! as long as you had a kick-butt time then it
may have been worth it... im so jealous of all of you who've seen them
live!!!  they almost always pass there way through Oregon...  bums!!

later all..  (good luck on your finals, those who have em)





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: orbital in Seattle
Date: 15 Oct 1996 23:19:36 -0700

>I'm doing an interview with the brothers on Sunday just before the show
>in Seattle.  I work for a webzine called MINT which is one of the shows
>from MSN (Microsoft Network) and we are thinking of doing an article on
>them.  I consciously want to avoid doing a typical Rolling Stone-like
>interview.  I was wondering if any of you have any particular questions
>you want to ask them about that are sort of unusual or haven't been
>asked. (I'm definitely gonna ask them about the goggles----well, ok,
>that's not so unique but I'll ask them anyway)

hehehe... ya, why did they skip Oregon??  B^)   (j/k)
later...




        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Portland scene
Date: 18 Oct 1996 19:19:52 -0700

>I'm going to be visiting some family in Portland from the 14th of Dec until
>about the 21st.  Is there anything cool going on there during that time?
>What kind of clubs (Industrial or techno) are around?  Any good bands playing?
>
>thanks,
>albert
>
>P.S.  What are the good radio stations up there?

i'd like to know too!!  im from Eugene, and nothing is going on!!  im
bored...  i need a life...  (you are talking about Portland, Oregon and not
Portland, Maine right??  just double checking)

later...  again good luck on those dreaded finals...






        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: A very deep orbital research question...
Date: 18 Oct 1996 22:02:15 -0700


>Second: I've only been listening to Orbital for 2 years, and the first song
>of theirs I heard was "Lush." Am I considered a Newbie?

we're all newbies in our own ways.. B^)  no worries..

>Third: I can't be the only one out there who thinks that "Chime" is a
>mediocre tune at best... granted, I wasn't "on the scene" so to speak when
>it first came out, so I wasn't confronted with all the hubub, but jesus...
>I just don't think it's very good at all - so monotonous! (I'm going to get
>DESTROYED for that, I can feel it!)

hee hee hee.. youre not the only one.. i feel its to, i dunno, simple
maybe??  its still a good tune, but not my favorite...  so if you get
destroyed, we'll burn together...  (that sounded cheesy!!)





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: insides
Date: 19 Oct 1996 13:51:45 -0700

ok.. im getting confused..   B^)   im from the US and i got a 2 CD In
Sides...  disc 1 has PETROL, Girl Sun, The Box (2 tracks), etc... Disc 2
has Times Fly slow and fast, sad but new, The tranquilizer, and the 28 min
version of The Box....  so did i get the limited?  if so yippee for me! if
not, well then crud!

later   !!!





        -Chris Herz

[e-mail]


http://www.interwerks.com                http://www.chs.lane.edu/~chrish


"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: insides
Date: 20 Oct 1996 16:42:29 -0700


>        I bought the 1 disc box import, and the insides import, and had been
>meaning to buy the times fly import, but then the domestic came out with all
>three packed into one... then I accidentally broke my In-sides, so logically
>I got the US release.. the biggest difference is in the 28 min box.. I like
>the Import better because you can actually select the different movements..
>(one starts with the floor creaks, one at the clock ticks,  and one at some
>solo bells...)  There is a big silence between the third and fourth
>movement.. I havent really listened to the 28 min US version of the box..
>are they the same?


i believe the last few minutes of the remix of The Box has some guy singing...





        -Chris Herz

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"I'd like to see a nature film where an eagle swoops down and pulls a
fish out of a lake, and then maybe he's flying along, low to the ground,
and the fish pulls a worm out of the ground.  Now that's a
documentary." -Jack Handey



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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: By the way......
Date: 21 Oct 1996 16:14:15 -0700

>          Since we have been discussing devices which helps us
>     make music, let me ask a question to all of us.  How many of
>     us are self-proclaimed musicians?  This includes evrything
>     from owning your own studio to playing the kazoo.  Im
>     interested in how many of us are into music enough to
>     actually make our own=)
>
>
>                                  DJRavery

well, im totally into music, but really suck at composing it.  I can get a
basic beat but im too tone deaf to produce anything cool.. B^)  oh and i do
play the kazoo.. kazoos kick ass!
    ive also always wanted to try to spin, but didnt want to spend
crap-loads of cash cuz ive heard its totally hard...  is it just matching
the beats together or is it way more than that??  please leme know on what
to buy thats cheap... later!




        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: more computer generated music ?'s
Date: 21 Oct 1996 16:25:49 -0700

does anyone know what Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails guy) used to produce
his stuff??  he did most of the wierd tweeked stuff on a Power Mac, so i
hear...
if anyone knows what software/hardware he used and maybe the cost of it
all, leme know.. later..





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: more computer generated music ?'s
Date: 21 Oct 1996 23:21:56 -0700

Geeeeez!!  well thanks to all who mailed me!  crap! i cant afford any of
that... i guess i'll stick with PlayerPro for awhile  B^)....  later!





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Numbers!?!
Date: 21 Oct 1996 23:24:54 -0700

heck, why not.. B^P     B^)

3. Chris   Eugene, OR
    (this will take awhile...)




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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: ok.. stupid question
Date: 23 Oct 1996 02:37:28 -0700

   i may feel like an ass when asking this, so bear with me... B^)
    ok.. there is The Prodigy and Prodigy... are these the same group??
again forgive my stupidiness, cuz i hardly heard any of their stuff...

later...





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: >B^(
Date: 24 Oct 1996 01:17:52 -0700

ugh.....  i dont like to complain, but i hate chain letters...  sorry to be
a party pooper...


>Kiss someone you love when you get this letter and make magic.  With love,
>all things are possible.  This paper has been sent to you for good luck.
>The original is in New England.  It has been around the world nine times.
>The luck has been sent to you.  You will recieve good luck.
>
>    Within four days of recieving this letter, and you must, in turn, send
>luck.  This is no joke.  Send NO MONEY.  Send copies to people you think
>need luck.
>
>    Don't send money, as fate has no price.  Do not keep this letter.
>It must
>leave your hands within 96 hours.  A Pan AM officer recieved $170,000.00.
>Joe Elliot recieved $70,000.00, and lost it because he broke the chain.
>While in the Philippines, Oan Walch lost his wife six days after recieving
>this letter.  However, before her death. he recieved $7,775.00.  Please send
>20 copies and see what happens within 4 days.  This chain comes from
>Venezuela and was written by Manthony Degroung, a missionary from South
>America.  Since the copy must tour the world, you must make 20 copies and
>send them to friends and associates.
>
>    After a few days, you will get a surprise.  This is true!  Even if you
>aren't superstitious.  Do note the following:  Contantine Dias recieved the
>chain in 1963.  He asked his secretary to make 20 copies and send them out.
>A few days later, he won the lottery of $62,000,000.  Carlos Babbit, an
>office employee, recieved this letter and forgot it had to leave his hands
>within 96 hours.  He lost his job.  Delan Fairchild recieved  this letter
>and not believing, threw the letter away.  Nine days later, he died.  In
>1987, the letter was recieved by a young woman in California.  It was faded
>and barely readable.  She promised herself that she would retype the letter
>and send it out, but she put it aside.  She was plagued by various problems.
>The letter did not leave her hands within 96 hours.  She finally typed the
>letter as promised and got a new car.
>
>    SEND NO MONEY!!!  DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER!!!!  It Works!





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wasted Space
Date: 24 Oct 1996 01:23:55 -0700

oh my god!!!!!!  everyone chill...  geesh!!!  what happened, all of a
sudden many people are having pissy fits over little pointless things...  i
joined this list to read about different techno, including Electric
Skychurch, Underworld, Prodigy, etc!!!  lets just keep it on a "musical
theme"...  if you want to read about superstition and fate, go join the
chain letter mail list...  ugh!!  whats the world coming to....  it really
is a cry for survival...





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: im miffed!!
Date: 24 Oct 1996 13:27:07 -0700

anyone who goes to the Uni. of Oregon and has a connection, please
complain!!  I was on the Live Concert and had a hell of a time trying to
listen..  i kept getting lag and my connection kept disconnecting.. if any
of you loyal orbital fans taped it or somehow saved everything i will trade
a tape of a some fine tunes that a friend of mine spun last night.. please
help!! <i think im going to cry!!>  B^(

later..





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: more computer generated music ?'s
Date: 24 Oct 1996 21:32:27 -0700

>from what i gather, the demo for pretty hate machine was done entirely
>on an AMIGA. i heard this from a couple of sources including an AMIGA
>dealer. any one agre with this? say...i thought this was suppose to be
>orbital related mail!
>
>dj ernie

well, it kinda was...  people were mentioning mixers, syncs, S3Ms, etc.. i
needed some info on Mac programs relating to that stuff.. B^)  sorry to
stray off the subject like that.. B^)

later..





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Interview With Orbital
Date: 24 Oct 1996 21:35:05 -0700

>Hey All...
>
>Remember that interview with orbital I recorded last week?
>
>Well, It's Online And Just waiting for you to listen to it :)
>
>RealAudio 3.0 IS REQUIRED
>
>http://www.mass-music.com/audio/orbital.ram
>
>Check It Out!
>
>-Jon

that was cool!!  where was that broadcasted??  thanx again man...

cigars are bad for you.. have some beer... B^P     B^)





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FSOL
Date: 25 Oct 1996 16:06:58 -0700

>Here's another non-Orbital related message to make you guys mad, but is Dead
>Cities as good as people are saying??  I've heard people raving about it for
>a mo. or two here, and saying it's even better than Lifeforms, which I loved.
> Unfortunately, I haven't had the chance to pick up Dead Cities yet, but I'm
>looking for some opinions.
>
>Thanx,
>Matt

some of the stuff i heard seemed a little darker and more depressing..  but
this was just one tune...  The DJ that was spinning this said it was a
little "darker than the normal stuff"...   go ahead and give it a whirl i
guess.. B^)
    on that note, about non-Orbital stuff, i kinda think just talking
about orbital non-stop seems a little repetitive... i think if a message is
related to techno or computer generated music it seems suitable..  but
again this is just another of my wacky opinions.. im bored so im going
snowboarding.. later..





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: more computer generated music ?'s
Date: 27 Oct 1996 16:10:23 -0700


>well, me and a couple of buddies have been putting out 12" here in
>chicago for a few years now and the first one we put out the guy at the
>studio mastered the entire thing through SOUNDEDIT. at first i was a bit
>confused as i have been running only small samples and soundtracks
>through it for some multimedia stuff i was doing through DIRECTOR. the
>soundguy told me that SOUNDEDIT and  DECK II were very good for
>sequencing and editing. hmmm...i guess it's alright for stuff that is
>staying within the cyberrealm, but for actual playback and recording i
>don't think it can cut it. the first 12" sounded like shot because he
>EQed it all wrong, but i wonder if SOUNDEDIT and DECK II are good for
>more than multimedia stuff. anyone else?
>
>dj ernie


I havent played with Deck II but i got soundedit.. its great for multimedia
and creating sound samples...  where can i get Deck II??  are there any
demos out there? or is it another of those $3000 programs??  gads, stuff is
too spendy these days...  B^(

later, and thanks!




        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: LiveConcerts.com
Date: 27 Oct 1996 16:55:33 -0700

if you all didnt get the chance to hear orbital at Live Concerts, i just
got an address from a friend with the LA orbital concert.. its in RA 3.0
format so i apologize for those who cant get it.. B^(   later

http://www.rocktropolis.com/orbital/club.html






        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Rave Culture
Date: 29 Oct 1996 22:04:32 -0700

Welllllll......... im 18, i guess i am kinda in the middle of being a
youngin' at heart and a mature person..  im into raves.. its a time to hang
out with friends, and meet new peoples...  i also have a friend who spins,
and ive produced visuals for a rave...  i dont dress up like the typical
sterotype raver (ie: leather, chains, studs, etc)....  there arent too many
raves around in Eugene, OR... it kinda surprises me because there is a vast
variety of people that live here in Eugene.. Most of us Eugenians are very
liberal..  there's my input..  later..





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: 'nother off the subject question.. B^P
Date: 30 Oct 1996 12:29:03 -0700

hey all...  this topic is old, i know...  for those who own PlayerPro for
the Mac, i see a person can export a S3M...  can a person compose an S3M in
PlayerPro??  I was thinking of buying it, but MODs are getting too old and
boring... later.  Happy Holidays to all....





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Rave Culture
Date: 30 Oct 1996 16:51:06 -0700

>Same here--I'm almost 17, I love Orbital, and its kind of music. It's
>hard to explain, but it just makes me feel special.
>I would love to go to a rave, but, duh-there are no raves down here in
>Dallas...so I was just wondering about how people who rave dress and
>behave...perhaps, if I see any of them around here, I'll know that I
>was wrong  ;)
>Thanks :)

Really?!?!?!  there has to be raves in Dallas...  maybe 18+ or 21+ places..
hmm in Eugene, OR, all the raves ive been to, ive seen 12 yr. olds prancing
around..  sucks to be a youngin..  B^(  i just turned 18 and just bought my
first lottery ticket.. joy...  age restrictions blow....  later..  oh btw,
i have a friend who lives in Plano, i'll mail him to see if there's
anything around that is available for you..  then post it on here.. sound
good?? leme know.. later..





        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Yo
Date: 30 Oct 1996 22:33:17 -0700

>Yo.  Happy Holidaze...
>
>Is this anyone I know?
>
>I live in Durham - go to UNC part-time.
>
>Who you be?
>
>:o)
>
>Duncan
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]

hmmmmmmm... another accidental Orbital add on??? B^)  someones gotta fix
that.. hee hee hee....   I'm Chris.. how are you doing?? im fine.. welcome
to the Orbital list... well im getting off the subject.. i know how much it
miffs people.. ;^)






        -Chris Herz

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From: Chris Herz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital website???
Date: 31 Oct 1996 16:22:49 -0700

>In a message dated 96-12-22 18:01:10 EST, you write:
>
><< Hey, all you other aol users--have you been unable to access the Orbital
> website recently??   I tried to earlier today, and they told me it was using
> an http language that is incompatible w/aol or some rot.  Anyway, I'd
> appreciate some feedback on this....thanx.
>
> Matt >>
>Matt,I also am on aol and have been having this same
>prob...inconsistantly...w/alot of sights...what's up?????? It is driving me
>nuts.
>
>    Alan

i may sound like a pecker when saying this, but AOL is crap!!!  if you can,
get another service provider... sorry... B^(





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