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From: Cunnell Tim <[e-mail]>
Subject: Who, me?
Date: 02 Jan 1996 12:19:00 gmt

...well everyone else seems to have done it...

Name  : Tim
Age      : 27
Hair      : yes, lots, blond
Sex      : mostly casual
Where : London
What    : Project manager, Logica
Music   : the usual + underworld, etc...
Orbital : Glastonbury 94+95, Amsterdam 94, London 94, Munich 95....
Band  : LiLo

email : [e-mail]




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From: Jason Bunston <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Age, sex, etc.
Date: 02 Jan 1996 11:37:12 -0600 (CST)

Jason Bunston
Male (you may have guessed by da name)
University 'O' Arkansas
Fayettenam--oops! Fayetteville, Arkansas

...just another lover of beaty sounds.... Chee'ahs





















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From: Jason Bunston <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Age, sex, etc. (fwd)
Date: 02 Jan 1996 11:40:28 -0600 (CST)

Jason Bunston
Male (you may have guessed by da name)
University 'O' Arkansas
Fayettenam--oops! Fayetteville, Arkansas

...just another lover of beaty sounds.... Chee'ahs

    Doh!  Age:24 and still going, and going, and going....
          Occupation: Student and runner (seriously--can run a killer 5k)



















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From: [e-mail] (Jason Fry)
Subject: Re: Who, me?
Date: 02 Jan 1996 18:15:36 +0000

Nice one!   Are we the only ones?

Cadet Jase!

At 12:19 pm 2/1/96, Cunnell Tim wrote:
>...well everyone else seems to have done it...
>
>Name  : Tim
>Age      : 27
>Hair      : yes, lots, blond
>Sex      : mostly casual
>Where : London
>What    : Project manager, Logica
>Music   : the usual + underworld, etc...
>Orbital : Glastonbury 94+95, Amsterdam 94, London 94, Munich 95....
>Band  : LiLo
>
>email : [e-mail]




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From: P Basran <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re : What the hell...
Date: 02 Jan 1996 17:53:22 -0700 (MST)

Let me also indulge...

Name  : Parminder
Age   : 25ish
Sex   : only with bipeds
Where : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
    (ez coool out dea!)
Music : ...anything that sounds remotely like metallic barrages
    in an deformed subspace of linearity and chaos...slightly
    bruised with Brian Eno's "Apollo" soundtrack.
What  : Grad Student...physics
email : [e-mail]
http://www.ualberta.ca/~pbasran/


    "imyo; er ,rry shsom"  <-- kudos to those that figure it out!
                   ;-/


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From: NICHOLAS J JEFFS <[e-mail]>
Subject: oops
Date: 03 Jan 1996 10:53:09 GMT0BST

Hi,

This is my first/second message to the list (I wrote the first in
late 95, but have discovered it went elsewhere!).

Firstly I'd like to know if anyone can tell me where orbital are
playing live in the UK in the near future, (and dates!).

Thanks.
..........and.........,wait for it

name:   Nick Jeffs
sex:    male
eyes:   blue
hair:   brown
hieght: infinite
age:    22 (barely)
Occupation: Physics postgrad, avoiding work.
Now on: Test match special-england vs. south africa
music: FSOL, REM, Transglobal Underground, Eat Static, Banco de Gaia,
       Chemical Brothers, The Cure, any ambitrancetechnojungle

       Nick J.





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From: nick davey <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Label.
Date: 03 Jan 1996 12:27:34 GMT

I'm sorry for again writing about this, But::

I'm Starting a new label Dedicated to Electronic music,
I've got the plan and a little bit of funding.  I have
previously sent out messages that i've been told were badly
constructed,  So This is a message to ask for people to
submit Demos for the first release a Compilation CD.  This
goes out to Unknown Usigned and Established artists.  The
money will only be a share of the royalties and will be
divided equally,  The CD will be limited so there won't be
much money,  but all the artists will get as much as
affordable.  Already I've got some sparkling tracks but i
need more.

I'm not trying to Rip anyone off,  and everything will be
contractually done.  If you want to copyright stuff before
you send it to me then it will protect yourself from rip off
merchants but I work in a frame work that means I listen to
all the stuff that is sent (primarily on Tape/CD or Vinyl)
and then arange with the chosen artists contracts before
handing over DATS and Final copies so I'm not the sort of
person rip you off.  If you just Send me a tape or Record of
your stuff then the quality won't be high enough to properly
release anyway.

The...I'm not a businessman Bit,  I'm not actually, i'm
currently working as a researcher...Obviously a record label
is a business but I don't want to corrupt innocent artists
into a void of money for the sake of
money mobile-phone/armani suited Businessmen.  A label that
Cares together, Shares Together.  I like music...I really
like music, I'm open minded and I'm willing to give people a
chance. I hope people are willing to give me a chance and
are equally likeminded about my apauling non-business like
habits.
(I get bored of saying 'I'm not a businessman I'm music Fan'
 but it's true).

If your Interested then drop me a message at:
[e-mail]

or send tapes/records/CDs to

4 Henley Court,
Lexden,
Colchester,
Essex.
CO3 4HD.
England.

Also if you are on the electronic Music maker list at
Hyperreal or any of the other lists that I don't subscribe
to....Please could you pass on the message.

Happy New Year,
1996 will be the Best.

Best Wishes,
Nick.




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From: nick davey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Who, What, Where?
Date: 03 Jan 1996 12:37:43 GMT

name: Nick Davey.

Address: England/sheffield-Essex-wherever.

Job: Student/researcher at the moment.

Likes: Music, Literature, Pissing about on computers.

Dislikes: People who are close-Minded, Boredom.

Music Preferances: Intelligent Dance,  Detriot Techno,
Intelligent Drum'n'Bass, HardHouse, Trance, Techno etc...
Artists preferances: James Bernard, Speedy J, Orbital, Most
of the people who've sent me demos.

Current projects: Starting a label,  writing, reading the
entire works of Graham Greene.

People I want to thank: Marton Ayrton, J.Kaiser (J.ac.K
records).

Have a Happy and great 1996.
Best Wishes.




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From: [e-mail] (Nick Abbott)
Subject: Katrina from California
Date: 04 Jan 1996 16:33:44 +0000

Hi,
Sorry about his everyone.

Katrina you sent me a message re clubs in UK, but I cannot send a reply as
it says  user unknown.
Please send me your email address again

Thanks

Sorry to everyone else!!




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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Darrah)
Subject: Who I am
Date: 05 Jan 1996 00:27:09 GMT

I get the digest, so excuse me if this is a bit out of date.

Name: Doug Darrah
Age: 31 (turn 32 Feb 1)
Location: Portland, OR
Listenables, in no particular order: Orbital, PJ Harvey, Tori Amos, Beethoven,
Talking Heads, Cure, MBV, Gang of Four, Laurie Anderson, a host of others

(As you might infer, I have a wide range of musical interests.)

I discovered Orbital on Volume 3, and have been a fan ever since.

Not to reopen any old wounds, but I think Snivilization is their best
effort--most coherent, richest in texture. I'm not a trance/raver (though I HAVE
been to one in SF) so perhaps my perspective of their music is different than
many who sub this list.

Hope you all had a happy new year!

Doug


Webspace: http://www.teleport.com/~ddarrah/


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From: [e-mail] (Jason Fry)
Subject: Re: Katrina from California
Date: 05 Jan 1996 10:46:07 +0000

To Katrina,

Can you send me this Club list also.  Could be interesting!
Have you got a list of clubs for Bournemouth?  Do you want some?

Cheers.

Jason.
__________________________________________

At 4:33 pm 4/1/96, Nick Abbott wrote:
>Hi,
>Sorry about his everyone.
>
>Katrina you sent me a message re clubs in UK, but I cannot send a reply as
>it says  user unknown.
>Please send me your email address again
>
>Thanks
>
>Sorry to everyone else!!




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: First orbit........
Date: 05 Jan 1996   14:07:06  +0100

    =20
     Hi !
    =20
     First some details:
    =20
     Name: Andrew Beeston
     Age: 28
     Sex: M (with F)
     Home: Market Drayton, Shropshire, England
     Current more-than-eclectic faves:
        Biosphere
        Vapourspace
        Orbital (obviously!)
        UK Drum'n'Bass (the way forward !!)
        Nine Inch Nails (Aaaah, variety at last!)
        Aphex Twin
        Ken Ishii  =20
        Anything not afraid to take a chance !
    =20
     Address:
        [e-mail]
    =20
    =20
     Does anybody know if there was a US maxi or equivelent
     for the Times Fly E.P. ??=20
    =20
     After a Digipack CD, jewel case CD AND differnt US remixes
     for "Are We Here", one 4 track CD seems somewhat lacking !
    =20
     Also any news on forthcoming releases other than the track on the "Wip=
eout"=20
     compilation CD ??????
    =20
     Cheers in advance
    =20
     AMB


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Hodgepodge.........
Date: 06 Jan 1996 02:00:06 -0400 (EDT)

Greetings one and all, I hope everyones New Year and season were as interesting As they had hoped.  Well aside from the good tidings, I guess I must unviel myself as all of you seem to have done.
Name: James Samuel Heller Null
Age: 20
Occupation: Student of the podigious Brandeis University, Politics and History with a minor in Judaic Studies.
Home: I guess I divide my time between NYC (the city of my birth), New Jersey (where papa resides), Conn (where mama resides), and Boston where my school happens to be
Interests: Besides politics and hthe history of the modern world.  Orbital, Aphex Twin, Cosmic Baby, Frankie Bones, Adam X, Vapourspace, Juno Reactor, Chemical Brothers, Luna, Freaky Shockre, Consolidated, and many more.
Misc: Whatever, things get lonely on this side of the pond, lets get discusion back to Orbital :)
Good evening one and all,
James
╜


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Questions, questions, questions.....
Date: 08 Jan 1996 02:01:38 -0400 (EDT)

Seeing as I recently unvieled myself to all of you, although I have
been active on this mailing list for over a year, I would like some
advice.  Within the past couple of weeks I have been fortunate enough to
posses two technique 1200 turntables and mixer for absolutely nothing.
I need some advice as I'm dreadfully bad at mixin and picking vinyl.
Does anyone know which labels are generally good and can anyone recomend
vinyl that I can purchase.  All tidbits of information that anyone can
suggest would be completely and totally appreciated.
Thanks again,

James



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From: [e-mail] (Jon Green)
Subject: Re: 1926 Trancendance Mix on CD
Date: 08 Jan 1996 10:53:28 +0000

>there's a newish CD comp from Global Cuts, the
>R&S offshoot run (?) by Sven Van Hees, that has the 1926 Trancendance Mix
>of Lush on it. This track has previously only appeared on the b-side of
>the Impact USA 12".

I got the Impact USA 12", and i didn't think much of the Trancendance mix,
it sounds a bit wishy-washy, and doesn't really add anything worthwhile to
the plethora of mixes already available (Underworld, PWOG, original, Peel
session, etc). What does anyone else think?

Jon Green: [e-mail] / [e-mail]
"they entered the vortex and the dreams became reality"




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From: Richard Parkin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Radio 4 a haven for Orbital fans????
Date: 08 Jan 1996 09:55:26 GMT

Hi all,

Radio 1 not playing enough Orbital for you?

Try Radio 4!

(Translation for non-UK people - Radio 1 = BBC national "pop"
radio, Radio 4 = BBC national "old fogies" radio)

Just before the 6 o'clock news on Friday, there was a trailer for a
program giving a guide to the night sky (broadcast on Saturday Afternoons
I think), which used "Belfast" as the backing music! It worked really
well, with the slow build up, high synth line sounding very stella,
and a couple of loops of the voice for that "The Planets" feel.

I havent listened to the actual program to see if they use the music there
too, but was well chuffed.

What next? Leftfield to do a remix of the "You and Yours" theme?

And has anyone heard the use of an orbital tune in a more bizarre setting?

S'later

Ric P

(27 and a regular R4 listener - old fogey already!)



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From: [e-mail] (Richard Mayer)
Subject: Orbital on MTV
Date: 08 Jan 1996 14:10:54 GMT

Hello folks! Happy new year n' everything.

So, did anybody video orbital on new yrs eve?  Thingy in Machester... Mick
that's it... weren't you going to?? As i suspected i couldn't do it due to the
usual "non-standard UK" reasons. Why oh why does britain have to be so
different to the rest of europe?! So, i could *watch* it on my german tele
(whilst jamming along in order to provide a source of amusement to my non
orbital-apprecitive mates who were more intereseted in partying) whilst my
english VCR remained as useful as a Sinclair C5, relying on some kind sole on
this here list to do the hard work for me.

If anybody can sort me out with a copy, please let me know. Either i'll post
some dosh (squids, gliders, marks, francs, even czech crowns if you want) to
cover tape, postage and a bevvy for your trouble or I'll probably be over to
the SE (Surbiton/Kingston) in early feb to collect in person.

Cheers, thanks in advance if anyone can help,

Rich.


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From: "Nick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Jedi Knights
Date: 08 Jan 1996 16:30:05 GMT0BST

Does anybody know if any Jedi Knights stuff is available on CD?
That's all.

Nick.

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Rudholm)
Subject: Re: Radio 4 a haven for Orbital fans????
Date: 08 Jan 1996 10:27:20 -0800

> From: Richard Parkin <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Radio 4 a haven for Orbital fans????
>
> Just before the 6 o'clock news on Friday, there was a trailer for a
> program giving a guide to the night sky (broadcast on Saturday Afternoons
> I think), which used "Belfast" as the backing music! It worked really
> well, with the slow build up, high synth line sounding very stella,
> and a couple of loops of the voice for that "The Planets" feel.
>
> I havent listened to the actual program to see if they use the music there
> too, but was well chuffed.
>
> What next? Leftfield to do a remix of the "You and Yours" theme?
>
> And has anyone heard the use of an orbital tune in a more bizarre setting?

In Mexico, every Sunday night *all* radio stations everywhere
in the republic carry a feed from the government.  The show
is called "La Hora Nacional" (The National Hour).  It makes
no difference where you put your radio dial, you will hear
the same thing on all stations.  Anyway, last time I was in
Mexico City (Spring 1994), I tuned in "La Hora Nacional" and
heard a very familiar Orbital tune under the dialog!  I was
pretty well shocked...

- -Mark

- --
Mark D. Rudholm / Software Engineer     Commotion New Media, Inc.
[e-mail]                      1424 Fourth Street, #604
http://hyperreal.com/~rudholm/          Santa Monica, CA  90401  USA


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From: Lee Horner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Radio 4 a haven for Orbital fans????
Date: 08 Jan 1996 23:44:19 -0500

- -- [ From: Lee Horner * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

Radio four is not for old fogies, its for people who like drama, sport,
comedy and like to know whats going on in the outside world, so don't do
yourself down!!!

Orbital is intelligent dance music.
Intelligent people listen to intelligent dance music.
Intelligent people listen to radio four
Therefore radio 4 is for Orbital fans!

I'd much rather listen to the Today programme kicking some tory MPs arse
than any 'zany' breakfast DJ

If you are looking for an old farts station try radio 2

Lee (radio 4 listener and role model for Harry Enfields old gits).

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From: Richard Parkin           \ Internet:    ([e-mail])
Subject: Re: Radio 4 a haven for Orbital fans????
Date: 08 Jan 1996 23:44:19 -0500


Hi all,

Radio 1 not playing enough Orbital for you?

Try Radio 4!

(Translation for non-UK people - Radio 1 = BBC national "pop" radio, Radio 4
= BBC national "old fogies" radio)

Just before the 6 o'clock news on Friday, there was a trailer for a program
giving a guide to the night sky (broadcast on Saturday Afternoons I think),
which used "Belfast" as the backing music! It worked really well, with the
slow build up, high synth line sounding very stella, and a couple of loops
of the voice for that "The Planets" feel.

I havent listened to the actual program to see if they use the music there
too, but was well chuffed.

What next? Leftfield to do a remix of the "You and Yours" theme?

And has anyone heard the use of an orbital tune in a more bizarre setting?

S'later

Ric P

(27 and a regular R4 listener - old fogey already!)



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From: Ravelish Ravel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #73
Date: 09 Jan 1996 17:43:51 +0800 (SST)

Hello everybody,

Can anyone tell me if the Times Fly cd single (4-track) the latest stuff

from Orbital after their Snivilisation? Of course discounting the track they

produced on the HELP album.  Are there any other stuff to keep a lookout

for?

Thanks!

_____________________________________________________________________________
                                                           e  n  t  i  t  y
                                                       [e-mail]


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From: Mat Joyce <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: First orbit........
Date: 09 Jan 1996 17:43:51 +0800 (SST)

>        Ken Ishii

whoa...yea...good stuff
- --
Mat Joyce


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From: Richard Parkin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Radio 4 a haven for Orbital fans????
Date: 09 Jan 1996 09:50:26 GMT

Dave Ross <[e-mail]> asked
>Hi.  Is there a radio 2 or 3?  What do they program?
Radio 2 tends to do 'easy' listening, Radio 3 does mainly classical.

Things arent so clear cut of course (God bless the BBC), as the content
does vary widely at times (eg. Radio 3 does mainly classical, but will go
for modern classics as well as the standards, live concerts, bits of jazz,
some drama, and even a series detailing the history of 'pop' music)

Lee Horner <[e-mail]> quite rightly pointed out
>Radio four is not for old fogies, its for people who like drama, sport,
>comedy and like to know whats going on in the outside world, so don't do
>yourself down!!!
Thats why I put it in quotes. Most peoples general perception is that
its full of...well they never know what, but they are sure its boring
and only old people from the home counties listen to it.

>Orbital is intelligent dance music.
>Intelligent people listen to intelligent dance music.
>Intelligent people listen to radio four
>Therefore radio 4 is for Orbital fans!
Hear hear.
It has to be said though that radio 4 is a speech based station, and
the signature tunes are generally dodgy if there even is one (I still
cringe when "You and Yours" comes on). So to find Orbital lurking in
the corners of Broadcasting House was a little unusual.

>I'd much rather listen to the Today programme kicking some tory MPs arse
>than any 'zany' breakfast DJ
My favorite way of starting the day. (Ok second favourite ;->)

BTW, in case anyone asks, it was just the standard mix, though they cut it
short after the second vocal refrain with a 'cut-dead and echo-last-sound-
into-the-distance' effect.

Ric P - Radio 4, Not that old, and definitely not from the home counties

"I want to take my pleasures where and how I will;
 Be they distasteful, disgraceful, or distilled"



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From: "S.D. BAILEY" <[e-mail]>
Subject: radio4 is ace...?!!?!!?
Date: 09 Jan 1996 11:09:07 GMT

A couple of months back there was a trailer for some sports program on
bbc1 and i'm sure it had 'crash and carry' as the music. it was
definately orbital anyway.
Is this some covert operation by the brothers hartnoll to be heard by
the entire world or is the mainstream media just developing some
taste?
bizarre thought............

simon


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From: nick davey <[e-mail]>
Subject: whats Current.
Date: 09 Jan 1996 12:08:34 GMT

Since snivilisation, Orbital have released

Times Fly EP,
a Track called P.E.T.R.O.L on the wipeout soundtrack,  the
only exclusive track on the comp.
The Adnan Track on the Help compilation.

future plans for the release of the new Album are being made
and it'll be released sometime this year.

Which release of Ken Ishii is prominent,
the latest Extra Single, the Jellytones album, or are you
talking about some of the stuff in his past, the Gardens on
the Palm single etc...?

Personally I really like all his stuff,  but a Compilation
CD called Innerelments (or something of that nature) is
really cool,  it contains among others some un-released
stuff, as well as Radiation 03 a wierd and disturbingly good
track.
If you don't posess any Ken Ishii check out the extra single
which's got remixes from Dave Angel, Luke Slater and,
Wagonchrist does some jungle type thing (blinding) also.

Best Wishes,
Nick.




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From: Michael Byrne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Radio 4 a haven for Orbital fans????
Date: 09 Jan 1996 12:22:42 GMT

I remember "Sad but True" being used as the background to a trailer for
a Shakespeare play on BBC2 last year.

But I was more shocked to hear a Richard Kirk track on Grandstand (major
Saturaday afternoon sports program) at about the same time (so shocked I didn't recognise it at first).  Me and a friend  decided that whoever chooses the music for BBC sports programmes, trailers etc
has one of the smartest jobs going - he/she (they?)seems to have a free rein to
 pick what they want and seem to have good taste in what they choose. Just
imagine spending your days picking your favourite music for TV programmes
Bliss

Bye

Mike


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From: NICHOLAS J JEFFS <[e-mail]>
Subject: orbital in weird places
Date: 09 Jan 1996 15:32:24 GMT0BST

Although not as weird as a government broadcast, I have heard the
tunes of orbital emanating from a fruit machine in our local.
Unfortunately I cannot remember the track, and the machine has long
since gone to one-arm-bandit heaven.

'I feel wasted'     Nick J.


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From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* <[e-mail]>
Subject: Allo folks!
Date: 09 Jan 1996 20:07:01 GMT

Wahey! Happy New Year to you all!
    I hope everyone enjoyed the festive season as much as I did :)
    Having said that I was gutted to get home from 'Return to the
Source' on New Years day (did anyone else here go there???) to find
the VCR had decided not to tape the Orbital live gig... did anyone in
the Loughborough area get it on video? It would have been the perfect
thing to chill out to on what was pretty major come down... ho-hum.
    I was reading Mix-mag (which is a pretty disappointing magazine)
and there was an article with Phil Hartnoll and some other blokey who
were, to my horror, slagging off the net as a waste of time... I
think one of Phil's quotes was something like 'I don't see the
point... if I want to talk to someone I can just pick up the phone...
I can talk faster than I can type.' The other bloke, some nameless
face started saying it was as bad as trainspotting... yeah, if you
like mate. I would have thought Phil would have been a bit more for
the net seeing as the Orbital Web Page is so impressive... which
makes me wonder just how much P&P had to do with it.
    Oh well... I'm off to get some train numbers.
    See yas!
    Static


    ________________________________________________________________
   |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there |
   | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're |
   | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people,   |
   | but some of them are on opposite sides.'                       |
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From: Dave Ross <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: radio4 is ace...?!!?!!?
Date: 09 Jan 1996 14:12:37 -0600 (CST)

On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, S.D. BAILEY wrote:

> A couple of months back there was a trailer for some sports program on
> bbc1 and i'm sure it had 'crash and carry' as the music. it was
> definately orbital anyway.
> Is this some covert operation by the brothers hartnoll to be heard by
> the entire world or is the mainstream media just developing some
> taste?
> bizarre thought............
>
> simon
>
I've been told that Crash and Carry was in a B-movie about renegade
shoplifters.  Is this true?



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From: [e-mail] (Mark Rudholm)
Subject: Re: Allo folks!
Date: 09 Jan 1996 14:21:43 -0800

> From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* <[e-mail]>

>     I was reading Mix-mag (which is a pretty disappointing magazine)
> and there was an article with Phil Hartnoll and some other blokey who
> were, to my horror, slagging off the net as a waste of time... I
> think one of Phil's quotes was something like 'I don't see the
> point... if I want to talk to someone I can just pick up the phone...
> I can talk faster than I can type.' The other bloke, some nameless
> face started saying it was as bad as trainspotting... yeah, if you
> like mate. I would have thought Phil would have been a bit more for
> the net seeing as the Orbital Web Page is so impressive... which
> makes me wonder just how much P&P had to do with it.

Rise Media did the Orbital web pages.  The person responsible
for them is Ian Shurmer ([e-mail])

Ranch Associates in London does the Orbital artwork.

- -Mark

- --
Mark D. Rudholm / Software Engineer     Commotion New Media, Inc.
[e-mail]                      1424 Fourth Street, #604
http://hyperreal.com/~rudholm/          Santa Monica, CA  90401 USA


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From: Smoking Man <[e-mail]>
Subject: Crash and Carry!!
Date: 09 Jan 1996 17:24:20 EST

Dave Ross said,
>>I've been told that Crash and Carry was in a B-movie about renegade
>>shoplifters.  Is this true?
 The movie u want is "Shopping". A quirky little Channel 4 Film!
Orbital are on the soundtrack, track 17..
The movie's worth a look.

Smoking Man...



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From: Michael Byrne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: radio4 is ace...?!!?!!?
Date: 10 Jan 1996 09:39:02 GMT

> I've been told that Crash and Carry was in a B-movie about renegade
> shoplifters.  Is this true?
>
>
Yeah

It was on the sound-track to the film 'Shopping' about joy-riders and
ram-raiders (people who rob shops warehouses by driving a car through a wall or
a window).  It was out a little over a year and a  half ago.

The film got fairly poor reviews - but I remember an article
where a load of young offenders inside for car related offences were taken
to see it and loved it especially the soundtrack.

The soundtrack was quite mixed but had stuff by the Sabres, One Dove, Credit to
the Nation among others.  I bought the album just for the Orbital and Sabres tracks since it was out about three months before Snivilisation came out.

Mike


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Glastonbury 1994 - recorded highlights.......
Date: 10 Jan 1996   11:26:11  +0100

    =20
     Why do there always seem to be more questions than answers.......??
    =20
     Oh well, here's one more:-
    =20
     Does anybody know which tracks are available from Orbital's 1994=20
     Glastonbury set ?? The BBC recorded it as part of their transmission=20
     for Radio 1 in the UK.
    =20
     I only have the following released during 1994 :-
    =20
     Impact:The Earth is Burning (10.02)
     ------------------------------------
     Released on a free compilation tape called "Future Tracks" with Select=
=20
     magazine in the UK.
    =20
     Remind (11.20)
     --------------
     Found on a limited edition run of "The Serious Road Trip" sold in aid=20=
of=20
     childrens charities in Bosnia. Usually a 2 CD set but the initial mail=
=20
     order run (through the Melody Maker) had the track on a third bonus CD=
=20
     all of it's own. A stunning album including tracks by Laurent Garnier,=
=20
     Leftfield, System 7, Finitribe, The Drum Club, Loop Guru, Banca de Gai=
a,=20
     Pressure of Speech, the Orb etc with all tracks being exclusive to the=
=20
     compilation.
    =20
     Both tracks are STUNNING quality and really capture the Hartnolls in=20
     full-on glory. The crowd sound really adds to a great live set.
    =20
     Having the two from separate sources, on different media even, is just=
=20
     sooooooooo annoying. I was hoping that, by now, seeing SOME had been=20
     released, a live CD of some description would have crept out. It=20
     seems, however, that this probably isn't the case..........
    =20
     ......unless any of you know any better ????
    =20
     [e-mail]
    =20
     "The man that's proclaims himself a fool is a liar -=20
      if he were genuine who wouldn't know such truth"


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From: P Basran <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital's "Wasted/Internet"
Date: 10 Jan 1996 18:43:15 -0700 (MST)

David Mccallum wrote:

>     Maybe it's a case of the more you get to know an artist the more
> you find them to be a human making human mistakes.
>
    Such as the death of Dwayne Goettel (of SP fame) from substance
abuse?  Fatal mistake.

"Progressive thinking ya say?"

    I figure that there are no bounds to what one can do with this
internet thing.  Most users go through 3 phases when it comes to internet
usage:    1) This is awsome!
    2) This is so slow!
    3) This is boring!
    I think this attitude comes from saturation, yanno, kinda like
having too much cotton candy and not wanting anymore.  I could think of
an endless number of things a band can do on the internet...as long as
Mr. Gate's doesn't own it.

"Waste of time?"
    Fear of the unknown often disguises itself as apathy.

"Progressive thinking ya say?"

    Imagine:
    Fractal Shareware + Orbital Samples + Movie Samples +
    Free Art + Morphing Shareware + More Orbital Samples +
    Etc...

    The ingredients are there...now, who's gonna doit?  Or am I
on the wrong mailing list?  Comments?  Sorry, no closet Chomskys
please.


Parminder



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From: Harald Schmitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital's "Wasted/Internet"
Date: 11 Jan 1996 02:51:13 +0100 (MEZ)

Hi David,

>     The fact that Phil finds the Internet a waste of time really
> brings Orbital down a few notches in my book of progressive thinking
> artists.  (It's a short book that no one will ever read.)
If you are right with this then you are right! :-)

>     I don't understand Orbital giving a track to help score video games
> and movies
Something I don't understand even without that statement about the internet.
> ...the Internet - a relatively open text where anyone with a
> computer (sadly still mostly middle- to upper-class caucasian males) can
again I agree... sadly! (soory, that I am white, male and not poor)

>     Maybe it's a case of the more you get to know an artist the more
> you find them to be a human making human mistakes.
Welcome back to earth David! The brothers Heartnoll are good, sometimes
great musicians, artists among many others.

greetingz,

Harald

           +--------------------------------------------------+
           | Internet: [e-mail]        |
           |           [e-mail]  |
           |==================================================|
           | WWW -> http://rave.city.de/wicked                |
           | > Techno, Ruhrarea, Detroit, Flyer, Tresor,...   |
           +--------------------------------------------------+




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From: joeb <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital's "Wasted/Internet"
Date: 10 Jan 1996 23:17:38 -0600 (CST)

If I could do what Orbital does, I too might consider the internet a
waste of time.
________________________________
- -joeb                           |_ |_| | "We simplify bits, add bits, and
[e-mail]                | |_ |_|          change bits to fit"
http://www.siue.edu/~jbeuckm/   | | |  |___________________-Paul Hartnoll__



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From: Michael Byrne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital's "Wasted/Internet"
Date: 11 Jan 1996 11:29:58 GMT

>     I figure that there are no bounds to what one can do with this
> internet thing.  Most users go through 3 phases when it comes to internet
> usage:    1) This is awsome!
>     2) This is so slow!
>     3) This is boring!
>     I think this attitude comes from saturation, yanno, kinda like
> having too much cotton candy and not wanting anymore.  I could think of
> an endless number of things a band can do on the internet...as long as
> Mr. Gate's doesn't own it.
>
> "Waste of time?"
I think I'd agree with those three points.  There a mountain of good stuff
out there and a wide range of possibilities but it's buried under a mass of
rubbish.  It's often difficult to get hold of anything useful.

Also the amount of people tring to use the net now means that for large periods
of time its almost unusable. Here in the UK after lunchtime when America wakes
up most sites of interest tend to be unreachable or tediously slow. (Not a
complaint just a statement.)

Another down side in the amount of "MAKE MONEY FAST" and "XXX HOT BABES" ads
swamping all the news groups - as well as the number of sad b*****ds posting
things like "techo sucks" to techno news groups - like what's the point.

Basically now the internet seems like a nugget of gold buried in a pile
of shite.

Well that's my rant - but I'm not suprised certain people aren't completely
impressed with it all.

Mike.


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From: orbital <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Jedi Knights
Date: 08 Jan 1996 13:14:53 -0500 (EST)

On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Nick wrote:

> Does anybody know if any Jedi Knights stuff is available on CD?
> That's all.
>
> Nick.
>
>         {~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~}
>          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
hey nick,

yes as a matter of fact it is.  it's on a warp comp called "the theory
of evolution"  which, ironically enough,  i am listenting to right now!!

regards,
d...
[e-mail]



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From: [e-mail] (Tom Nuttall)
Subject: Re: Radio 4
Date: 08 Jan 1996 19:21 GMT

BBC1 used 'Sad But True' behind a trailer for a new Shakespeare production
about a year ago.

Tom


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From: "Alan M. Parry" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Jedi Knights
Date: 08 Jan 1996 11:21:36 -0800 (PST)

On Mon, 8 Jan 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> As far as I know the 1st release on Clear was by the Jedi Knights
> in vinyl format only, in a rather limited edition.

Hardly limited edition. It's been repressed at least once and within its
first month of release sold in excess of 5000 copies. It is vinyl only,
though I believe there will be a Clear Compilation featuring Jedi Knights
material sometime in the future..

::         Alan M. Parry
::      [e-mail]
::    <finger me for PGP key>
::  http://hyperreal.com/~fluid



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From: Sanne Boshuizen <[e-mail]>
Subject: M 25
Date: 09 Jan 1996 16:48:21 +0100

Most of you might already be aware of this terribly useful piece of
information but then again some might not.

If I have my information in the right place, orbital got their name from the
'orbital highway' around london. It's part(?) of the M25 where people used
to drive their car to go to parties somewhere in the fields (or did I make
this fields bit up?). I like the idea a lot. It gave me a funny feeling when
I saw the orbital sign on the road.

Well back to more serious matters. Bye
...SB...



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From: "Matt A. Umlor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #72
Date: 09 Jan 1996 17:35:48 -0500 (EST)

I AM......MATT


    FROM:   GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN

    SCHOOL:  GRAND VALLEY STATE UNIVERSITY...BROADCASTING MAJOR

    AGE: 21 (NEXT WEEK)

    FAVORITES:  ORBITAL, DEEE-LITE, THE FIGGS, PJ HARVEY, AND MANY MORE...

        HI TO JOHN IN KALAMAZOO...   BYE.
                            MATT




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From: "Matt A. Umlor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #72
Date: 09 Jan 1996 17:35:48 -0500 (EST)

I AM......MATT


    FROM:   GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN

    SCHOOL:  GRAND VALLEY STATE UNIVERSITY...BROADCASTING MAJOR

    AGE: 21 (NEXT WEEK)

    FAVORITES:  ORBITAL, DEEE-LITE, THE FIGGS, PJ HARVEY, AND MANY MORE...

        HI TO JOHN IN KALAMAZOO...   BYE.
                            MATT




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From: Michael Byrne <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: M 25
Date: 09 Jan 1996 17:35:48 -0500 (EST)

- ----- Begin Included Message -----

Most of you might already be aware of this terribly useful piece of
information but then again some might not.

If I have my information in the right place, orbital got their name from the
'orbital highway' around london. It's part(?) of the M25 where people used
to drive their car to go to parties somewhere in the fields (or did I make
this fields bit up?). I like the idea a lot. It gave me a funny feeling when
I saw the orbital sign on the road.

Well back to more serious matters. Bye
...SB...


- ----- End Included Message -----


Yep

The M25 is the orbital motorway (highway) allegedly built to ease traffic by
allowing people to avoid driving through London.  However it is notorious for its congestion. Convoys of cars used to drive round the M25 to get to raves in the surrrounding areas back in the Summers of Love.

Apparently it is where Orbital got their name from.

Mike


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From: Dave Ross <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #73
Date: 09 Jan 1996 14:11:33 -0600 (CST)

Yes it is.  They also produced a song for the new Sony Playstation.  I
don't know where you can pick it up though...

On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Ravelish
Ravel wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> Can anyone tell me if the Times Fly cd single (4-track) the latest stuff
>
> from Orbital after their Snivilisation? Of course discounting the track they
>
> produced on the HELP album.  Are there any other stuff to keep a lookout
>
> for?
>
> Thanks!
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________
>                                                            e  n  t  i  t  y
>                                                        [e-mail]
>


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From: ADAM QUERY <[e-mail]>
Subject: a few obvios ones
Date: 09 Jan 1996 14:11:33 -0600 (CST)

hiya... just a few obvious q's for you
who is john peel
and any idea for the use of lush for the song titles?
and isnt halycon a tranquilizer?
adam


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From: Matthew Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: a few obvios ones
Date: 11 Jan 1996 19:52:09 -0800 (PST)

Hi everyone
On Thu, 11 Jan 1996, ADAM QUERY wrote:

> hiya... just a few obvious q's for you
> who is john peel

John Peel is a legendary DJ from Great Britain, he has been on Radio 1
since its start in the late sixties, his music tastes are very varied,
ranging from classical blues, to Zaire music through Industrial to the
most recent techno, he is a big factor in the spread of new and unusual
music in Britain if the not the world in the last 25 years, he is probably
the greatest DJ ever to have graced the planet.

any idea for the use of lush for the song titles?

Lush for a title? In Britain, lush is something tasty, gorgeous or
beautiful ...  is that a good enough reason? I think so.

 > and isnt halycon a tranquilizer?
If you get a chance to check out any of the world wide web pages
available for Oribital, it mentions in an interview somewhere, that the
Hartnoll brother's mother was on this tranquilizer. Check it out, I'm not a
100% sure. Halycon also refers to a state of mind, of relaxation, calmness
etc.

Matt (greatest techno fan of the west coast)


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From: *zzzz* STATIC *zzzz* <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #73
Date: 12 Jan 1996 14:38:51 GMT

Yes it is.  They also produced a song for the new Sony Playstation.
I don't know where you can pick it up though...

> Hello everybody,
>
> Can anyone tell me if the Times Fly cd single (4-track) the latest stuff
>
> from Orbital after their Snivilisation? Of course discounting the track they
>
> produced on the HELP album.  Are there any other stuff to keep a lookout
>
> for?
>
> Thanks!
>
> _____________________________________________________________________________
>                                                            e  n  t  i  t  y
>                                                        [e-mail]
>

    The song produced for the Playstation is on the game 'Wipeout'
and is called 'P.E.T.R.O.L' or 'Wipeout' depending on whose word you
take... <?> The soundtrack for this game has now been released on CD
and the game is also available on the PC CD-ROM format now.

Static
    ________________________________________________________________
   |'I believe you find life such a problem because you think there |
   | are the good people and the bad people,' said the man. 'you're |
   | wrong of course. There are, always and only, the bad people,   |
   | but some of them are on opposite sides.'                       |
   |________________________________________________________________|


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Me n orbital
Date: 12 Jan 1996 20:32:48 -0500

My favorate is a com mixed by DJ Keoki.  Also I like Two AD for those ambient
moods.
Zenas


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From: [e-mail] (Magic Hands)
Subject: Spooky remixes (not orbital related)
Date: 13 Jan 1996 14:10:16 -0400

Sorry...

I tried asking this question on the IDM list and received no response, so I
am falling back on the MUCH friendlier folks of the Orbital list.

My query is the following:  Has anyone heard, or heard of, any remixes of
any of the tracks from Spooky's amazing "Stereo EP" release? Are they any
good? Please, I must know!

Thanks,

This message came from Matt.




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From: [e-mail] (ernst schneider)
Subject: re:Me n Orbital
Date: 14 Jan 1996 06:57:15 -0800

A good set of ambient-type comp. is -Electronic listenning music from Warp-
It's certainly not thump, thump nose-bleed techno.
I have I and II, and I think there is a third.

- -then, there is always Orb.

ES



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From: "E.J.Naylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:Me n Orbital
Date: 15 Jan 1996 09:53:14 -0500 (EST)

On Sun, 14 Jan 1996 06:57:15 -0800 ernst schneider
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
>A good set of ambient-type comp. is -Electronic listenning music from
Warp-
>It's certainly not thump, thump nose-bleed techno.
>I have I and II, and I think there is a third.
>
>-then, there is always Orb.
>
>ES
>
If you are referring to the "Artificial Intelligence" compilations, then I
would have to agree with you as to the quality of the music, as well as
the accompanying long-form (American word) video that accompanies
the second one - a mind-bending computer-generated trip that
complements the tracks perfectly.  But no - there is no 3rd edition.

Ed Naylor
Bursar's Office
Liverpool John Moores University
United Kingdom



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From: Eric Oehler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Juno Reactor (and a quick Q about Tranquilizer)
Date: 15 Jan 1996 09:05:00 -0600 (CST)

I'll ask around here since the folks on this list seem to have a better
grasp of things than most usenet groups...

I saw a Juno reactor...uhhh...single?  EP?  I'm not sure....It had one
track, was about 60 minutes long, and had a weird cross-like symbol on
the front.  I really liked Transmissions and was wondering if this was
sort of in the same style.  I saw it relatively cheap...

My Orbital question:  I remember hearing someplace that The Tranquilizer
on TF was done prteey much in one take on one synth.  Umm...this is a
picky point but what kind of synth was it?

 =----------------------------Eric Oehler-------------------------------=
 |  [e-mail]                           http://www.itis.com/~wonko |
 =----------------------------------------------------------------------=
           Dynamic linking error: Your mistake is now everywhere.



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From: [e-mail] (Ian J Rawlins)
Subject: More vague news about the tour!
Date: 15 Jan 1996 15:54:47 GMT

Phil and Paul tell me that they will be also playing Europe, if not further
afield....
as part of the tour I mentioned a few weeks ago.
I'll let you all know more concrete details as and when this info is
forthcoming.
Byeeeee........
Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo!


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Byrne)
Subject: Re: Juno Reactor (and a quick Q about Tranquilizer)
Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:05:05 +0000

- ----- Begin Included Message -----

From [e-mail] Mon Jan 15 15:58:41 1996
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From: Eric Oehler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Juno Reactor (and a quick Q about Tranquilizer)
Date: 15 Jan 1996 09:05:00 -0600 (CST)


My Orbital question:  I remember hearing someplace that The Tranquilizer
on TF was done prteey much in one take on one synth.  Umm...this is a
picky point but what kind of synth was it?

 =----------------------------Eric Oehler-------------------------------=
 |  [e-mail]                           http://www.itis.com/~wonko |
 =----------------------------------------------------------------------=
           Dynamic linking error: Your mistake is now everywhere.


- ----- End Included Message -----


Hi

I think I read somewhere it was all done on a Korg Wavestation.

Bye

Mike


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Any Orbital fans in France?
Date: 15 Jan 1996 19:31:55 +0100

Is there any english speaking Orbital fans in France,particularly
in Brittany? The French idea of dance/trance whatever leaves
alot to be desired?
Will they becoming near these parts in the coming months,for
that matter will anyone decent becoming here ?
thanks
Carol


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From: Mat Joyce <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Me n Orbital
Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:58:23 +0000

>
>>A good set of ambient-type comp. is -Electronic listenning music from
>Warp-
>>It's certainly not thump, thump nose-bleed techno.
>>I have I and II, and I think there is a third.

>If you are referring to the "Artificial Intelligence" compilations, then I
>would have to agree with you as to the quality of the music, as well as
>the accompanying long-form (American word) video that accompanies
>the second one - a mind-bending computer-generated trip that
>complements the tracks perfectly.  But no - there is no 3rd edition.

Try the "Motions" video.....selected tracks from AI2...v. high quality
rendering....from Warp....

chill...
mat


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Quality Seconds
Date: 16 Jan 1996 13:02:42 GMT

This seemed like the best forum for clearing up a debate I have been
having with a friend...

So, was 'Quality Seconds' played live on the Sniv. tour?

Cheers,
Colin


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From: nick davey <[e-mail]>
Subject: AI Stuff.
Date: 16 Jan 1996 13:41:37 GMT

>Try the "Motions" video.....selected tracks from AI2...v.
>high quality rendering....from Warp....
>
>chill...

The Warp video
 motion features tracks not just from AI 2, but from the
Whole Artificial Intelligence Series,  Polygon Window
'Polygon window' (originally 'Polygon Window by the
Diceman-aka Richard James on the first AI compilation)off
The Polgon Window album, as well as Autechre's Basscadet,
from the triple 10" remix set.

Something maybe you didn't know about the motion film is
that it was constructed by final year students from the
design department at Sheffield Hallam uni.  I think it was
some Computer animation that was used as a final
project...like a design Thesis.  The videos were mixed at
the workstation, Also in Sheffield.  If you go to some of
the design rooms in the computer design rooms at the Psalter
lane sight Of Hallam uni, you'll see stills of various
frames of the motion video on the walls.

For those who don't know about The warp ai style of music..

Artifical Intelligence (series) music...it's termed
'Intelligent Dance Music' or 'electronic listening music',
more of the
RaveTechnoPhunkTriphopJungleDrum'n'bassAcidBreakbeatAmbientD
ubIntelligentTrance....... type of labelling, but in this
case it refers to tracks with a Rhythm section not always a
pounding bass drum, usually a nice layered ambient tune? and
some wierd electronic effects.
If you're interested in the Warp AI series or Intelligent
Dance, then There's the Intelligent Dance music Mailing List
(IDM) at hyperreal. I don't like labelling music too much
but...IDM is like a cross between Techno and ambient,
chilled out techno with ambient sounds, that is my opinion.

Best wishes as always,

Nick.
If you think i'm wrong then mail me about it.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: re:Me n Orbital
Date: 16 Jan 1996 09:04:22 -0500

What video?  I have AI II, and dont remember any video?
Zenas


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Orbital in remix frenzy request.........plus TIP !!
Date: 16 Jan 1996   16:36:07  +0100

    =20
     Hello again, great pool of knowledge !!!
    =20
     Does anybody have a reasonably concise (or totally lousy for that=20
     matter) list of Orbital remixes for other artists. UK or US !?!
    =20
     I tend to find that they really go to town and all but create new=20
     tracks to use. Take Madonna's "Bed Time Story" mix for example.....
    =20
     Any help would be great !
    =20
     IN RETURN, anybody with, or with access to, the Playstation game=20
     "WipeOut" can find the Orbital track "P.E.T.R.O.L." on the final=20
     track, (12) , of the game CD - it's cheaper and easier than buying the=
=20
     compilation album that followed for just the one track - you know=20
     you've been tempted !. Just don't play track 1 on the CD or you'll=20
     kiss your speakers goodbye !!
    =20
     [e-mail]
    =20
     +--------------------------------------------------------+
     | "The man that proclaims himself a fool is also a liar  |
     | for if he were, he wouldn't know such truths....."     |
     +--------------------------------------------------------+


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From: Dave Ross <[e-mail]>
Subject: re:Me n Orbital
Date: 16 Jan 1996 13:56:05 -0600 (CST)

On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, ernst schneider wrote:

>
>
> A good set of ambient-type comp. is -Electronic listenning music from Warp-
> It's certainly not thump, thump nose-bleed techno.
> I have I and II, and I think there is a third.
>
> -then, there is always Orb.
>
> ES
>
There is only I and II.  There seems to be no plans for a thrid at this
point.  All artists seemed to be well established so there isn't really a
need for a compilation.


Dave
PS. For more information check out the Hyperreal web site at
http://www.hyperreal.com or the IDM mailing list at the same address.



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From: "Richard Sykes" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Solar-Powered Orbital
Date: 17 Jan 1996 08:20:13 GMT0BST

Hello there

This weeks NME reports that Orbital have recorded a track called 'The
Girl With The Sun In Her Head' using a Greenpeace solar-power
generator. Good on them - it sounds like a good  way to promote this
alternative energy while still making great (hopefully) music.
They follow by saying the next album will be released in either March
or April, so start saving those pennies kids.

Richard.


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From: Ed Naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: re:Me n Orbital
Date: 17 Jan 1996 09:49:28 -0500 (EST)

On Tue, 16 Jan 1996 09:04:22 -0500 [e-mail] wrote:
>What video?  I have AI II, and dont remember any video?
>Zenas

The video was released at the same time as the 2nd LP and contained =0Aseve=
ral tracks from it, put to computer-generated images of strange =0Asea-crea=
tures and weird landscapes.  It lasted about 45 minutes I think.  =0ATo be =
honest I am not an expert as I don't own this video - only several =0Alarge=
 clips that were taped off MTV Europe.  I remember seeing it in =0Aseveral =
shops when it was released for about =A312 ($18) and the more =0Athat I wri=
te about it the more I am perplexed as to why I didn't buy it at =0Athe tim=
e.  If it's still available then any British music shop could order it =0A-=
 I also know of a couple of 2nd hand shops with big selections of music =0A=
videos.

Ed Naylor
Bursar's Office
Liverpool John Moores University
United Kingdom



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From: Mat Joyce <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: AI Stuff.
Date: 17 Jan 1996 12:03:12 +0000

In message <[e-mail]>, nick davey <[e-mail]>
writes
> I don't like labelling music too much
>but...IDM is like a cross between Techno and ambient,
>chilled out techno with ambient sounds, that is my opinion.

Yeah, often hear this kinda music refered to as Candlelight Techno...


- --
Mat Joyce


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From: antony meredith <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]
Date: 19 Jan 1996 09:50:20 -0500 (EST)

Does any one know when there is a new orbital album due out.

Thanx..



======================================================================
            Antony Meredith, Sheridan College

                 "First things first man ya fuck with the worst.
            I'll be stickin' pins in your head like a fuckin' nurse.
              Shame on you when you step to the Ol' Dirty Bastard.
                       Straight from the Brooklyn Zoo.

                   Ol' Dirty Bastard, Wu Tang Clan





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From: Ryan  Ferguson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: your mail
Date: 19 Jan 1996 19:02:58 -0500 (EST)

I heard that it may be as early as March, but that's probably wishful
thinking.
Cheers,
Ryan

On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, antony meredith wrote:

>
> Does any one know when there is a new orbital album due out.
>
> Thanx..
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             Antony Meredith, Sheridan College
>
>                  "First things first man ya fuck with the worst.
>             I'll be stickin' pins in your head like a fuckin' nurse.
>               Shame on you when you step to the Ol' Dirty Bastard.
>                        Straight from the Brooklyn Zoo.
>
>                    Ol' Dirty Bastard, Wu Tang Clan
>
>
>


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From: Matthew Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Me n orbital
Date: 21 Jan 1996 22:49:09 -0800 (PST)

On Fri, 12 Jan 1996 [e-mail] wrote:

> (Sorry just got back to school and email account)
>
> Name:  George Stickney
>
> Student/researcher at the University of Arizona in Tucson
>
> Age:  19
>
> Music: Orbital, Utah Saints, Altern8, Hoodoo Gurus, New Order, Shamen, Wild
> Colonials, Material Issue, Beethoven
>
> recently been burned on one too many bad compilation CD's.... any
> recommendations of compilations with "Choice" style music (fast and
> pumping bass)  only good highlight was one called "Zoo Rave 1" some
> killer stuff by Smashing Atoms and Bleu (?)  also any good ambient
> halycon-style stuff would be greatly appreciated....
>
> Thanks
> George
>
Hey George and any one else out there interested. I can suggest a couple
off hand, I'll have to go and check my CD collection and techno mags for
more later. Try out TRANCE EUROPE EXPRESS for starters, vols 1 and 2 are
great, you'll find a lot a great artists on these compilations, many have
now established themselves. I found the third one a bit too ambient and
slow, there is also TRANCE ATLANTIC devoted exclusively to american
artists, as well as a fourth TRANCE EUROPE EXPRESS both copies which I
haven't had the chance to check out yet. Also you may want to check out
the compilations by Guerrilla Records, GUERRILLA IN DUB is one of my
favourite albums, released in 93,it has:- The Drum Club, Lemon Sol, Spooky,
React 2 Rythmn, plus others appear on this truely awesome compilation,
check it out or lose out on the shear beauty and power of these tracks. As
someone else mentioned earlier WARP records ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE vols
I and II are good. Try also for a more energetic feel, tunes for EYE Q
RECORDS, I know of 2 complication albums, BEHIND THE EYE vols I and II.
If you want to feel like your at a club/rave try out JOURNEYS BY DJ'S (JDJ),
on these albums you'll find some of the greatest DJ's from Europe mixing
some of the deftest most wickedest tunes ever, JOHN DIGWEED kicks arse as
does the legendary PAUL OAKENFOLD, and if you like acid house trance DJ
DIMITRI (from Amsterdam, not the lame one out of Dee-Lite) he's your
man, I recently saw him at the Sound Factory in San Francisco, he was
brilliant. There are 8 JDJ's out now, the last coming from the early British
pioneers of acid house (1987/88):- COLDCUT, there are also international
DJ'S available, such as KEOKI.
There's more, following on in the some genre as JDJ, there are 3 volumes
of PSYCHOTRANCE, the first by Mr C (Rapper and blonde haired action man
of the SHAMEN) is just awesome, he's a much better DJ than rapper, I saw
him in Bristol (UK) he was amazing, and the music left me on a high for a
week. The second is not so good, Darren Emerson from UNDERWORLD, however
UNDERWORLD are great, try album DUBNOBASSWITHMYHEADMAN.

The following:- Ambient Dub Volume 1: The Big Chill
               Ambient Dub Volume 2: Earthjuice
               Ambient Dub Volume 3: Aqua
are truely great, for a more houseeeee feel, try

        House of Limbo
        Junior Boys Own Collection

for a real ambient trip the :-  X-MIX-volumes are great, the 5th volume
has a pack of cards with the statistics of the best DJ's around, such as
record collection size (some are 40,000 strong!!!) and how many hours for
the longest set, Sven Vath did 30hrs!!!! sounds like a serious drug intake.

Paul Oakenfold (responsible with three others A. Weatherall, Justin
Robertson and Danny Rampling for starting the whole scene back in 1987,
Acid House ..... they've never looked back since) and Osbourne of PERFECTO
have a couple of compilation albums the one with the BT tracks on it is
the best, can't remember its name.
I could go on all night but my eyes or going crazy starring at this screen.
I know of shit loads of good ambient groups, AMBIENT AURAS is a must.

Try this Web site out for an old list of artists that has not been
updated, it is very extensive, but sadly not fully up to date or
researched, as I know there are other albums available as I have some
they have not listed.
 :-http://www.tecc.co.uk/public/tqm/uk-dance/reviews/index.html

Matt (greatest techno fan on the west coast)


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From: Matthew Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Me n orbital
Date: 22 Jan 1996 00:05:21 -0800 (PST)

Hi there, a quick one, one further compilation worth checking out is

F.A.C.T. by Carl Cox, basically anything he touches turns to gold, so go
out and check out his ability, FACT is pumping, it has some great tracks.

Matt (the greatest techno fan on the west coast)


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From: Ed Naylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: New LP
Date: 22 Jan 1996 10:03:04 -0500 (EST)

On Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:50:20 -0500 (EST) antony meredith
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Does any one know when there is a new orbital album due out.
>
>Thanx..
>
>
The new LP is "likely to be released in March or April" according to a
short piece in last week's NME (published in Britain on January 17th).

Ed Naylor
Bursar's Office
Liverpool John Moores University
United Kingdom



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From: [e-mail] (Ernst Schneider)
Subject: Re: Me n orbital
Date: 21 Jan 1996 14:31:22 -0800

I'm sorry, I must comment:

>... and if you like acid house trance DJ
>DIMITRI (from Amsterdam, not the lame one out of Dee-Lite) he's your
>man, I recently saw him at the Sound Factory in San Francisco...
>
>
>Matt (greatest techno fan on the west coast)


Well Matt, "lame" is a little harsh. "Super"DJ Dimitri has moved on WELL
past his Dee-Lite dayz. Last year, he took a Vancouver rave by storm.
Actually, god-like, comes to mind. I never liked Dee-Lite and I don't know
much about him, but he was rad.

ES



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From: Filthy Mick <[e-mail]>
Subject: General nonsense
Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:44:51 GMT

Hiya folks!

Filthy Mick back on the air....our server is decided to take an early
visit to silicon heaven this week so I've missed out on some postings!

Anyway, does anyone know if there was some sort of end-of-year
conspiracy to prevent the MTV broadcast being taped? Only my copy
ended up missing the last ten minutes of the show, and most of my
mates have reported similar stories....strange!

I seem to recall others were going to tape said show so let me know
if you got a full, end-to-end copy!

Thought for the day: What exactly is INTELLIGENT drum 'n' bass? Do
you need to have some sort of qualification to make it? Or listen to
it? Or wear a funny hat?

Daft, Iknow, but these things have a way of creeping into my brain
and taking up residence. And then I become incapable of thinking
about anything else for, ooohhh, weeks at least.

And does anyone want to go and see Alex Reece in the Hacienda this
week?

Peace


Filthy Mick


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From: "Renee Baker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re[2]: Me n orbital
Date: 22 Jan 1996 07:11:41 -0800

May I add my two cents' worth to Matt's post?

The Ambient Dub series includes a fourth compilation:  Jellyfish.

Last I knew, they were only available through mail order from Beyond Records.
For more information, check out Beyond Record's site at:

http://www.obsolete.com/beyond/

Regards,

Renee
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From:    [e-mail] at Internet
Subject: Re: Me n orbital
Date: 22 Jan 1996 07:11:41 -0800

I'm sorry, I must comment:

>... and if you like acid house trance DJ
>DIMITRI (from Amsterdam, not the lame one out of Dee-Lite) he's your
>man, I recently saw him at the Sound Factory in San Francisco...
>
>
>Matt (greatest techno fan on the west coast)


Well Matt, "lame" is a little harsh. "Super"DJ Dimitri has moved on WELL
past his Dee-Lite dayz. Last year, he took a Vancouver rave by storm.
Actually, god-like, comes to mind. I never liked Dee-Lite and I don't know
much about him, but he was rad.

ES


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From: [e-mail] (Ian J Rawlins)
Subject: Info..
Date: 22 Jan 1996 15:19:01 GMT

The new LP .....
They've nearly finished it, one or two tracks to go.
Contains one track 25 minutes long......another one is  based on '70s
British t.v. detective theme tunes!?

More tatsy tit-bits later..
Cheers
Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo!



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From: [e-mail] (Tom Nuttall)
Subject: New Orbital album
Date: 22 Jan 1996 20:39 GMT

> The new LP .....
> They've nearly finished it, one or two tracks to go.
> Contains one track 25 minutes long......another one is  based on '70s
> British t.v. detective theme tunes!?

Where did you get these tasty snippets from?

Tom




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From: Goethe <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Me n orbital
Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:50:02 -0800 (PST)

On 22 Jan 1996, Renee Baker wrote:

>
> May I add my two cents' worth to Matt's post?
>
> The Ambient Dub series includes a fourth compilation:  Jellyfish.
>
> Last I knew, they were only available through mail order from Beyond Records.
> For more information, check out Beyond Record's site at:

The Jellyfish comp should be readily available through normal
distribution channels. I bought a copy at my local store.

Tony



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From: [e-mail] (The Barcode Never Lies)
Subject: Finitribe doesn't get mentioned, it is well worth checking out
Date: 22 Jan 1996 23:29:52 GMT

Dear People,
Everyone keeps mentioning many different compilations and similar types

of music, But no one has mentioned the excellent last LP by FINITRIBE
called "Sheigra"... You may still be able to get hold of it on DOUBLE
VINYL... Which is what Everyone wants.

It's a really really impressive lp, words just don't begin to describe
the depth and harmony within it. Orbital seem exceptional to me because
they use structures and treat electonic sounds like `real' instruments
(IE they are extremely competent and produce well constructed "Quality"
music).

Finitribe are similar in this respect, so maybe some others would be
similarly impressed by the Sheigra lp if they came accross  it, I don't
know anyone who listens to it and this is such a terrible loss to them
and a horrendous waste. I shout at people but they still won't listen
to this lp.... does anyone else get like this or am I completely alone ?


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From: Matthew Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Me n orbital
Date: 22 Jan 1996 21:48:01 -0800 (PST)

>
> Well Matt, "lame" is a little harsh. "Super"DJ Dimitri has moved on WELL
> past his Dee-Lite dayz. Last year, he took a Vancouver rave by storm.
> Actually, god-like, comes to mind. I never liked Dee-Lite and I don't know
> much about him, but he was rad.
>
> ES
>
I stand corrected, I have not heard much from him recently, and voices
have echoed discontent. I wander does anybody out there know of any
material he has released or remixed.

Ernst a quick question:- what is the Vancouver rave scene like. I've been
trying to get a job in Vancouver for 2 years now, I was offered a
job in october, but unfortunately I had commitments. I've heard so many
good things about your city. Thanks

Matt (the greatest techno fan on the west coast)



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From: [e-mail] (Ernst Schneider)
Subject: Re: Me n orbital
Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:35:15 -0800

>Ernst a quick question:- what is the Vancouver rave scene like. I've been
>trying to get a job in Vancouver for 2 years now, I was offered a
>job in october, but unfortunately I had commitments. I've heard so many
>good things about your city. Thanks
>
>Matt (the greatest techno fan on the west coast)
>

I'll admit, I'm not a heavy raver. The next one scheduled is Feb.10 entitled
"Emotion". For more info contact Vibe at http://www.nitehawk.com/vcom.
The few I've been to are purely cosmic. Either outside in a park or warf on
a river, or crammed into a banquet hall ment for 500 (not 1500) people, they
were the kewlest. Here is a kicker for ya. They are totally legal. In fact,
the RCMP support them! Some say, that takes the "underground" feel away. I
disagree totally. Totally peacefull and groovalicious.

Ernst



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From: [e-mail] (Ernst Schneider)
Subject: substance.digizine
Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:57:22 -0800

A shout out for a "must get" CDROM.

  I took a little trip down the States one day and decided to check out a
computer store. Found a gem. I didn't really know what it was at first, but
I bought it anyways, because it looked interesting.

substance.digizine
the digital journal of the electronic new edge
volume 1.1

This is sooo cool.
They review 130 Ambient house albums WITH SOUND BITES
etc. etc.

No web page but an address: [e-mail]

My question is...
Does anyone else have it or others?

ES



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From: Heikki Henriksen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Speaking of Orbital and Dub.
Date: 23 Jan 1996 10:04:52 +0100 (MET)

hiya all,

i've been lurking in the shadows on this list for a while,
but although this is my first posting, ill just skip the
self-introduction-part.

Well, to the business: the other day I bought this excellent
Dub-album - 'Dubnology, journey into outer bass'. A great
Dubbel-dub-pack. Filled with all my favs as Eat Static, Under
world, Astralasia etc, Most of the stuff is kinda like the
Planet Dog dub-sound, (fittingly labeled by someone as techn-
orangic), altho' there are some others, more dedicated to the
original reggea-kinda dub. (?)

AND...an Orbital-mix by a Meat Beat Manifesto-song (dont remember
the name of the song at the mo').

Hereby, recommended.

cya,
  heikki

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Rabben 3                                     [e-mail]
6490 EIDE          * DON'T PANIC *           [e-mail]
NORWAY                           http://www.nvg.unit.no/~henrix
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From: Harald Schmitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: substance.digizine
Date: 23 Jan 1996 13:34:19 +0100 (MEZ)

Hi Ernst,

> A shout out for a "must get" CDROM.
maybeeeee... :-)

>   I took a little trip down the States one day and decided to check out a
> computer store. Found a gem. I didn't really know what it was at first, b=
ut
> I bought it anyways, because it looked interesting.
>=20
> substance.digizine
> the digital journal of the electronic new edge
> volume 1.1
>=20
> This is sooo cool.
> They review 130 Ambient house albums WITH SOUND BITES
> etc. etc.
>=20
> No web page but an address: [e-mail]
>=20
> My question is...
My questions are:
- - for what system is this CD-ROM (Windows/PC, Mac,...)
- - how much does it cost?
- - does it have a ISBN number?!

> Does anyone else have it or others?
not yet... I don=B4t even have a PC or/and CD-Drive yet.. but that might=20
change soon...

greetingz,

Harald



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From: [e-mail] (Jon Green)
Subject: Re: Finitribe doesn't get mentioned, it is well worth checking out
Date: 23 Jan 1996 13:01:07 +0000

>I shout at people but they still won't listen
>to this lp.... does anyone else get like this or am I completely alone ?

You are not alone. I think there comes a point where you just get sick of
bothering, and no-one listening, so you just leave them to their
narrow-minded ways. It's their loss.

Jon Green: [e-mail] / [e-mail]
"here we play both kinds of music, acid and house"




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Ok, it's not Orbital but it is recommended.........
Date: 23 Jan 1996   13:57:06  +0100

    =20
     23-01-96 in the UK
     --------------------
    =20
     A little tip for all you UK readers........
    =20
     I don't know what release schedule there is for outside the UK but=20
     I've just bought the new SYSTEM7 release "Interstate".
    =20
     Nice to find a track that manages to be both soothing AND hard at the=20
     same time !!
    =20
     The CD single version is excellent, with an 8 minute Drum'n'Bass=20
     workout by Doc Scott, a smooth as smoke 9 minute version by LX=20
     Paterson and an 11 minute wonder from David Holmes - all nestled=20
     alongside the now-obligatory radio edit.
    =20
     Seek this out now - you'll be glad you did !
    =20
     Andrew Beeston
     or even
     [e-mail]
    =20
    =20


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From: Filthy Mick <[e-mail]>
Subject: My tuppen'orth
Date: 23 Jan 1996 16:41:53 GMT

Some good compilations have been mentioned in the last mail, but if
you want to try some tasty trance ("Make like a tree and blow in the
wind"....did anyone else see the "Old Farts' guide to modern dancing
in the Sunday Mirror last year?) then check out the first "Return to
The Source" compilation - well smart - or for a different twist, the
"Platipus Records" compilations ( I and II, both ace, especially the
last one.)

Or you could try any of the "React" smapler CDs - they pinch the best
tracks off of all their artists' albums and bung them out on one full-
length disc that sells for the price of a single. Cracking value, and
usually there's something ther for everyone.

I've also been getting all the Man with No Name singles and remixes
of late - he hasn't turned out a duff tune yet. Anybody know if he's
got an album out or impending?

And the last I heard, Orbitals' album is due early April with the Uk
tour kicking off about a fortnight later.

And where DOES Bongoman get his tasty bits of gossip from, anyway?

PS: Old joke I heard recently -

Darth Vader: "Luke, I know what you're getting for Christmas."
Luke S'Walker: "You can't possibly know. You're lying, you're not my
                father, etc etc"
DV: "Yes I do. For I have felt your presents."

Well, it made me laugh.........

Oh all right, I'll shut up then.

Tiddly plink




Filthy Mick


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From: [e-mail] (Jason Fry)
Subject: A couple of Jokes
Date: 24 Jan 1996 10:40:57 +0000

Now that Filthy Mick has started it, here are a couple of mine that I heard
recently, `like' yesterday!

Enjoy...

     Ken is shopping for a new motorcycle.  He finally finds one for a
     great price, but its missing a seal, so whenever it rains he has to
     smear Vaseline over the spot where the seal should be.

     Anyway, his girlfriend is having him over for dinner to meet her
     parents.  He drives his new bike to her house, where she is outside
     waiting for him.  "No matter what happens at dinner tonight, don't say
     a word." she tells him, "Our family had a fight a while ago about
     doing the dishes.  We haven't done any since, but the first person to
     speak at dinner has to do them."

     Ken sits down for diner and it is just how she described it.  Dishes
     are piled up to ceiling in the kitchen, and nobody is saying a word.
     So Ken decides to have a little fun.  He grabs his girlfriend, throws
     her on the table and drills her in front of her parents.  His
     girlfriend is a little flustered, her dad is obviously livid, and her
     mom horrified when he sits back down, but no one says a word.

     A few minutes later he grabs her mom, throws her on the table and does
     a repeat performance.  Now his girlfriend is furious, her dad is
     boiling, and her mother a little happier.  But still there is complete
     silence at the table.

     All of the sudden there is a loud clap of thunder, and it starts to
     rain.  Ken remembers his motorcycle.  He jumps up and grabs his jar of
     Vaseline.  Upon witnessing this, his girlfriend's father backs away
     from the table and screams, "OKAY, ENOUGH ALREADY, I'LL DO THE
F`ing DISHES!!"

 -------------------

These four gents go out to play golf one sunny morning.
One is detained in the clubhouse, and the other three are
discussing their children while walking to the first tee.

    "My son," says one, "has made quite a name for himself in the
    homebuilding industry.  He began as a carpenter, but
    now owns his own design and construction firm.  He's so successful in
    fact, in the last year he was able to give a good friend a brand new
    home as a gift."

    The second man, not to be outdone, allows how his son began his career  as
    a car salesman, but now owns a multi-line dealership.  "He's so
    successful, in fact, in the last six months he gave a friend two brand
    new cars as a gift."

    The third man's son has worked his way up through a stock
    brokerage. And in the last few weeks has given a good friend a large
    stock portfolio as a gift.

    As the fourth man arrives at the tee box, another tells him that they
    have been discussing their progeny and asks what line his son is in.

    "To tell the truth, I'm not very pleased with how my son has turned
    out, he replies.  "For fifteen years, he's been a hairdresser, and
    I've just recently discovered he's homosexual.  But, on the bright side,
    he must be good at what he does because his last three boyfriends
    have given him a brand new house, two cars, and a  big pile of
    stock certificates."

 -------------------------------


Jason




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From: [e-mail] (Richard Mayer)
Subject: Re: A couple of Jokes
Date: 24 Jan 1996 12:58:52 GMT

Excellent !!!

It's nice to see the return of that oh-so-familiar humour to the list.
Its been a bit quiet of late and not having these interruptions to my work has
really done my head in!

Just one thing though...

Bear in mind the consequences on other ppl of sending such humerous jokes! I
got some right funny looks when i suddenly burst out laughing in this here
otherwise silent, but the the hum of the air conditioning, computer room! ;->

Keep it up. Unfortunately i'm one of those crap ppl whose brain refuses to
allocate enough permanent memory to retain good jokes. (i.e i don't know any!!)

Rich.

PS maybe i'm a bit of killjoy but perhaps the second is not ideal for
"general" distribution. I found it funny - but maybe not everybody would.
Just a thought ;->

pps Ah! i think i've just remembered one!!!! Coming up....


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Mayer)
Subject: Another 2 (slightly sexist) jokes
Date: 24 Jan 1996 14:12:03 GMT

Apologies if this offends anybody:

======================================================================

Jacks in his local (american ppl, read : "regularly frequented pub") for his
nightly  belly of ale, whilst his wife is left at home with the washing up.
On this particular night he gets talking to bloke with a huge grin on his face
the whole night. Eventually curiosity gets the better of Jack and he asks the
bloke why he looks in such a state of permabliss. "Is it drugs?" he asks.
"Have you won the lottery? What is it?".

The bloke seems a bit coy about it at first but after a while has a quick scan
round the pub, that nobody's looking, then puts his hands down the front of
his pants and pulls out a ferret. But its not an ordinary ferret explains the
bloke. Its the Toothless-Sucking variety. "Well, now I see. Yes, no wonder
you've got such a grin on your face."

Jack goes home, gets undressed and climbs into bed before a quick 10 seconds
humping to relieve his tension. Of course, his wife doesn't enjoy it, but
simply endures the nighly ritual. Jack rolls off his wife, sparks up a fag and
lies back thinking of toothless sucking ferrets and how they could change his
life.

The following night he see's the bloke again and asks whether he can buy the
ferret. "It's my wifes birthday you see. It'll make a nice pesent." The bloke
with the ferret is totally confused by this of course, but they agree a price
and the deal is struck.

Jack turns up home a dozen pint of Boddies and a fish supper later and gets the
usual grief from his wife about staying out so late and on her birthday too.
"But I've bought you a present." he says, holding out the ferret. "Happy
Birthday" His wife looks horrified. "What the hell am i supposed to do with
*that* ?" she screams.

"Teach it to mek chips and wash up" he says "then **** off & don't come back."


======================================================================

...and another (less offensive)


Little Johnny was sitting in class doing math problems when his teacher
picked him to answer a question.

"Johnny, if there were five birds sitting on a fence and you shot one
with your gun how many would be left."

"None," replied Johnny, "'cause the rest would fly away."

"Well the answer is four," said the teacher, "but I like the way you are
thinking."

Little Johnny says, "I have a question for you now.  If there were three
women eating ice cream cones in a shop, one was licking her cone, the
second was biting the cone and the third was sucking the cone, which
one is married?"

"Well," said the teacher nervously, "I guess the one sucking the cone?"

"No," said Little Johnny, "the one with the wedding ring on her finger,
but I like the way you are thinking."


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From: " PETER V. NAYLOR " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Interested?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:05:26 -0500 (EST)

My first message without the particular's,  save the jealousy factor of
not being on your side of the world with all the access you have to their
shows and not having to deal with import rates...but to the point.
  I 've been watching you subscriber's for awhile now and for those of
you who are experimenting on your own tables or mixing your own shit I
have a proposition...
  I'm in the midst of SGi ecstasy, a six-month intensive course learning
the in's and out's of some very nifty 3-d software produced by a
homegrown company called SoftImage, the end result being a Minute and a
half long demo of my imagery, which in turn will be sent on video to
every company on this planet (french and english speaking) that uses the
software.  In other words quite a few (ILM, Dreamworks, Sony, Video
Gaming Producers etc...)
  Long-winded, he comes to the point:  I require A 90 second mix of some
of our favorite sounds,of a certain mood, ambient being the key.  Any
takers can call on me at will and we can discuss it further as this is an
Orbital list after all...sorry Control.  On that note, Sniv was my
favorite so far for as much as it told more of a story,  Brownie for the
bedtime instigation of some damn fine dream sequences.
   Lived in Whistler, British Columbia for five years and we have this
little get together every summer called " Summer Love " where I got to
see Lady Miss Kier an the gang go off the best by Dub Tribe.  Definitely
a recommendation.  The Vancouver Scene I know only a little of and missed
it during it's climax, but the quality of it's DJ's is not to be
undermined...Minute Maid, Czech, Spun-K, T-Bone and others with visits
from Keoki and Donald Glaude...the west coast rules.

  Stuck in the East until it's all over
  P.


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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Carlton )
Subject: Oh God,  I'm so very sorry
Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:12:37 -0800

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From: Bill DeRome <[e-mail]>
Subject: Good luck!
Date: 29 Jan 1996 23:29:26 -0500

>X-POP3-Rcpt: [e-mail]
>Return-Path: [e-mail]
>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 14:33:00 -0500 (EST)
>X-Sender: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>From: [e-mail] (JEN LANGMAN)
>Subject: Good luck!
>
>>Resent-Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
>>Comments: Authenticated sender is <[e-mail]>
>>Resent-from: "Paper Cuts" <[e-mail]>
>>Resent-to: "Paper Cuts" <[e-mail]>,
>>        "Paper Cuts" <[e-mail]>
>>Resent-date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 20:16:46 +0000
>>X-POP3-Rcpt: ex1015@mail
>>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:56:22 +0200
>>X-Sender: [e-mail]
>>To: [e-mail], [e-mail], [e-mail],
>>        [e-mail], [e-mail],
>>        [e-mail], [e-mail],
>>        [e-mail]
>>From: Chris Tito <[e-mail]>
>>Subject: Good luck!
>>
>>>X-POP3-Rcpt: nirvana@elimia
>>>Return-Path: [e-mail]
>>>Resent-Date: 24 Jan 96 14:00:30 EST
>>>Old-Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
>>>Date: 24 Jan 96 14:00:30 EST
>>>From: "NIELS T. PETERSEN" <[e-mail]>
>>>To: "(unknown)" <[e-mail]>
>>>Cc: TOM JERRARD <[e-mail]>,
>>>        "Michael C. Munro" <[e-mail]>
>>>Subject: Good luck!
>>>Resent-Message-Id: <"q22fc.0.au2.8Ae1n"@nyx>
>>>Resent-From: [e-mail]
>>>X-Mailing-List: <[e-mail]> archive/latest/6179
>>>X-Loop: [e-mail]
>>>Resent-Sender: [e-mail]
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    Gary Richards, 101476,1230
>>>TO:    Angela, 75707,352
>>>    Daniel Batten, 74762,2527
>>>    Tre Cool, 75441,332
>>>    chuck h, 103460,1721
>>>    Joanne Hossack, 102077,774
>>>    Sandra Milano, 75053,371
>>>    *Sexy Nicole*, 103204,1167
>>>    Cheryl Secomb, 76764,1055
>>>    User 69, 101476,1230
>>>DATE:    20/01/96 01:39
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    ANDREW FORREST, 100775,511
>>>TO:    gary richards, 101476,1230
>>>CC:    Mike Evans, 72113,3041
>>>    Alex Kilbride, 101527,1140
>>>DATE:    18/01/96 19:34
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    Jon-Paul Mulholland, 100661,617
>>>TO:    Cyber charlie, 101545,3216
>>>CC:    Andrew Forrest, 100775,511
>>>    Joanne Harrod, 100676,3137
>>>    JENETTE, 100773,3545
>>>    Matthew Robinson, 100725,1461
>>>DATE:    15/01/96 22:16
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    Matthew Robinson, 100725,1461
>>>TO:    ANDREW CLARK, 100702,71
>>>    Cuddles!, 103230,3726
>>>    Sarah Mac/Spotty Dog!, 100417,2364
>>>    JON-PAUL MULHOLLAND, 100661,617
>>>    CHARLOTTE SALTER, 100734,740
>>>    CRAAAIIIG SCOTT, 101320,3306
>>>    SIMON THOMAS, 100106,1005
>>>DATE:    14/01/96 02:40
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    Patricia, 102655,3467
>>>TO:    !!WK!!, 100630,376
>>>CC:    !hacker!, 100645,1461
>>>    $Motocrossmaniac$, 75563,2351
>>>    (\/)ushroom-17-M-UK, 100725,1461
>>>    *Agueybana*, 102645,3203
>>>    *ALFONSO*, 102044,1156
>>>    *Bag-O'-Wind*, 74716,3476
>>>    *Beamin'*, 103514,2515
>>>    .l., 103127,1304
>>>    ' Alive, 100625,3612
>>>    Armand-Austin, 74663,3507
>>>    "Southern Belle", 103272,3117
>>>    *~Ocean Girl 1~*, 102652,342
>>>    *A Country Girl*, 102777,42
>>>    !@IRISH KNIGHT, 76342,1360
>>>    ~Sir J of L~, 70004,2727
>>>    *autumn leaves*, 102624,2473
>>>    *Angel of Mercy/GA*, 76512,276
>>>    *"The Moose"*, 76265,1606
>>>    ! ! vanished ! !, 100770,3243
>>>DATE:    14/01/96 01:19
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    KIERON LAUNDER, 100130,2150
>>>TO:    wife's nylons (m), 75342,1432
>>>CC:    User 100, 103476,554
>>>    User 118, 100344,2374
>>>    User 160, 103144,3313
>>>    User 185, 71726,2116
>>>    User 196, 101556,1664
>>>    User 219, 72164,63
>>>    User 223, 100641,1005
>>>    User 243, 70003,7537
>>>    User 255, 103521,3001
>>>    User 276, 103061,1013
>>>    User 301, 102757,547
>>>    User 310, 100712,2402
>>>    User 311, 103463,774
>>>    User 314, 100775,2204
>>>    User 357, 100257,72
>>>    User 371, 103360,3311
>>>    User 382, 103425,712
>>>    User 392, 103624,1542
>>>    User 410, 74463,2533
>>>    User 411, 102516,3361
>>>    User 430, 103132,3514
>>>    User 80, 102655,3467
>>>DATE:    13/01/96 12:20 PM
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>Pass it on! Good Luck Chain Letter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This message has been sent to you for good luck. The original is in
New
>>England.
>>>It has been sent around the world nine times.  The luck has now been
sent to
>>>you.
>>>You will recieve good luck within four days of recieving this
>>message...provided
>>>
>>>you, in turn, send it on, This is no joke.  You will reiceve good
luck in
your
>>>mailbox.  Send copies to people you think need good luck.  Do not
keep this
>>>message.
>>>*This message must leave your hands in 96 hours*
>>>A United States Air Force Officer recieved 470,000 dollars.  Another
man
>>>recieved
>>>40,000 dollars and lost it when he broke the chain.  Whereas in the
>>Philippines,
>>>Gene Welch lost his wife 51 days after recieving this message.  He
failed to
>>>circulate the message.  However, before his death, he recieved
7,555,000
>>dollars
>>>
>>>Please send 20 copies and see what happens in four days. The chain
comes
from
>>>Venezuela and was written by Saul De Groda, A Missionary from South
America.
>>>Since the copy must tour the world you must make 20 copies and send
them
via e
>>>mail  or postal mail to friends and associates.  After a few days
you will
>>get a
>>>surprise. This is true, even if you are not superstitious.
>>>Do note the following: Constantine Dias recieved the chain in 1958.
He asked
>>>his secretary to make 20 copies and send them out. A few days later
he won a
>>>lottery of 2 million dollars.  Carlos Dadditt, an office employee,
>recieved the
>>>messge and forgot it had to leave his hands in 96 hours.   He lost
his job.
>>>Later, after finding that message again, he mailed 20 copies.  A few
days
>later
>>>he got a better job.
>>>Darlan Fairchild recieved the message and, not believeng, THREW THE
MESSAGE
>>>AWAY!! Nine days later he died.  In 1987, the message, recieved by a
young
>>woman
>>>in California was very faded and barely readable. She retyped the
letter and
>>>got a new car.
>>>Good Luck but please remember: 20 copies of this messge must leave
your
hands
>>>in 96 hours.  You must not sign on this message
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>JEN LANGMAN [e-mail]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>"i used to count sheep,but they made such a racket
>with there baahing that it kept me awake. Now i count
> orange's on an imaginary tree."
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>fill me in on your new vision,
>wake me up with your indecision.
>help me trust your mighty wisdom,
>Yes i eat cow
>I am not proud.---------------------------->nirvana
>
>
>       "moi volont'e habiter jamais"
>
>





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From: Matthew Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaTour, who are they?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 23:19:22 -0800 (PST)

Hi everyone, I wonder if anyone can help me out here? I've been listening
to probably one of the most asked about song's, BLUE by LaTour. I've spent
a bit of time searching around the web, but it seems like this is a pretty
rare and lesser know group. Does anyone have any info on them, eg what
albums have they released (I know of "Home on the range"), singles (I know
of "E" and "Blue"), where are they from and are they still performing?
Sorry its not Orbital related, but its bugging me and the calibre of music
knowledge here is the best. So please help me. Thanks.

Matt (technophile)


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From: Davey N <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]
Date: 30 Jan 1996 09:30:37 GMT

Thanks to the person who sent the chain letter,
and i mean that totally sarcastically.

nick.

======================================================================


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From: [e-mail] (Jason Fry)
Subject: Re: Naughtiness
Date: 30 Jan 1996 09:45:31 +0000

Well, cheers Ian.  I reckon we will accept your apologies, and I shall try
not to swear again.  hohoho.

Thanks for the offer of a floor to kip on, and if I should ever be in
London, I will remember your offer!

Jay

__________________________________

>Jason, it's not clever to swear........
>
>Richard, Filthy Mick and everyone else- I'm sorry if I came across like some
>moralising no-fun merchant, sometimes I think  'patronising' is my middle
>name. Still, it takes all sorts dunnit?
>
>P.S. Anyone who wants somewhere to crash in London for the London gig(s) is
>welcome at my place....and that includes dear old Jason.
>Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo!




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From: [e-mail] (Jason Fry)
Subject: Foreign Clubs
Date: 30 Jan 1996 09:46:32 +0000

Hello everybody,

I was just wondering if any of you have clubbed in foreign countries like
the States, Australia, or Canada for example?  If you have, what are your
experiences compared to London clubs like Club UK (Wandsworth),
Labyrinth(Hackney),The End and shit(oops, sorry Ian Rawlings!) like that.
What about big events like Tribal Gathering?  How do they scale against
ours?

Have any of you been to the German Techno street party, held around Easter
for the last three years?  According to Muzik mag', they started three
years ago with ten people, then the second had around a hundred people,
then the third, last year, had ten thousand!  Fuck me, that's a lot of
people in just three years!

Your comments WILL be appreciated!

Jason




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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Les Tambours du Bronx
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:22:47 +0000

Hows it goin?  Sorry I can't help you on the LaTour question Matt.  You've
inspired me though to make enquiries of my own.

So, any of ye ever heard of a French group called Les Tambours du Bronx?  I
think they're from Lyons.  I wasn't sure whether to call them a group or a band
or a troupe or what.  There's between 20 and 40 of 'em, each with a steel drum
and two big sticks.  What happens is the whole lot of them beat on their drums
(never!) and produce the most amazing tribal, intricate, intense music I've
ever heard.  I saw them in Aug. 94 in Lowlands Paradise in Holland and have
been trying to track 'em down since (www included) to try and get some
recordings but to no avail.  Hopefully they still exist.

Eternal gratitude to anyone who can help ;)


- --
         |||||||||
        |         |
       [   O   O   ]     Conor Fox
        |    U    |
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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Chain mail
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:30:49 +0000

Ooo-er.  I've deleted the chain letter by mistake.  I'm shakin' in me pointy
boots.  I'll keep ye posted if anything terrible happens to me.


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From: [e-mail] (Jon Green)
Subject: Re: Oh God,  I'm so very sorry
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:43:33 +0000

At 10:12 pm 29/1/96, Jeffrey Carlton wrote:
>>>>This message has been sent to you for good luck. The original is in
>New
>>>England.
etc
etc

You know there are actually people out there who think they WILL get good
luck if they send these on.

Jon Green: [e-mail] / [e-mail]
"it's important to be nice but it's even more nice to be important"




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From: [e-mail] (Jon Green)
Subject: Re: LaTour, who are they?
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:47:00 +0000

Latour did a track a few years ago called "People are still having sex".
Billy Nasty and Phil Perry's mix of "E" is awesome, as is the Nush me dub
mix of "Blue". They were released as a double A-side on Blunted
Vinyl/Island in the UK in 93 or 94. "Blue" was in the film "Basic
Instinct".
That's all I know.

Cheers.

Jon Green: [e-mail] / [e-mail]
"it's important to be nice but it's even more nice to be important"




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From: mary meighan e bessmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: LaTour, who are they?
Date: 30 Jan 1996 06:45:46 -0500 (EST)

All I know about LaTour is that about 5 years ago they came out with a
single that I think was called "People are Still Having Sex." At least,
that was the in the song that was repeated more than anything.

I suppose that isn't much help.

meighan

On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Matthew Sage wrote:

>
> Hi everyone, I wonder if anyone can help me out here? I've been listening
> to probably one of the most asked about song's, BLUE by LaTour. I've spent
> a bit of time searching around the web, but it seems like this is a pretty
> rare and lesser know group. Does anyone have any info on them, eg what
> albums have they released (I know of "Home on the range"), singles (I know
> of "E" and "Blue"), where are they from and are they still performing?
> Sorry its not Orbital related, but its bugging me and the calibre of music
> knowledge here is the best. So please help me. Thanks.
>
> Matt (technophile)
>


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From: mary meighan e bessmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Foreign Clubs
Date: 30 Jan 1996 06:55:29 -0500 (EST)

> Hello everybody,
>
> I was just wondering if any of you have clubbed in foreign countries like
> the States, Australia, or Canada for example?  If you have, what are your
> experiences compared to London clubs like Club UK (Wandsworth),
> Labyrinth(Hackney),The End and shit(oops, sorry Ian Rawlings!) like that.
> What about big events like Tribal Gathering?  How do they scale against
> ours?
>
 I'll give you a bried synopsis of my clubbing experience of ther the
past six years.

Basically, most of the clubs I have frequented were in Chicago. I never
went to a 10,000 member rave, but back in the early 90s,I was able to get to
go to about a
5,000 member rave when raves were still underground. It was intense and a
wonderful experience.  Now, they are little more than shaparoned dances
for junior high kids.

The general trend in clubs in America, in my opinion, is that their
popularity circulates in annual cycles. For example, a scene will be
really hot, the club will be very exclusive and expensive, the atmosphere
and music very exciting and intense, then it will slowly be infiltrated
by fraternaty boys and soroity chicks who are still content dancing to "A
Little Respect" by Erasure or the infamous Cure's "Just like Heaven." The
club makes a ton of money selling out, all the "cool" people leave, and
the club shuts down in about 16 months.  There are always the staple
clubs that can hang in for 10 years or more, but you would only go to
them on certain days -- Neo on Tuesday, Shelter on Saturday, Industry and
Crobar on WEdnesday, etc.  I'm sure this phenomenon is similar in other
countries.

meighan


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From: Davey N <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]
Date: 30 Jan 1996 12:41:34 GMT

Talking of that Chain letter,
thanks, but i've also got sent it again by other people who i talk to,
who are probably on the list, which means i've got a few copies now.
It's one of those things, you know pretty much there's nothing in it, but
you're always a bit suspicious, and this suspicion is what drives the
whole thing in the first place.  Nobody really benefits from it unless of
course it does bring you good luck...and if my memory serves me right it
doesn't state that you have to send it to twenty different people, just
print it out twenty times stick it in an envelope and send it to someone
as a joke.  it's supposed to tour the world....????
If you are suspicious, and don't like the idea of bad luck, please don't
send the message to me, just arrange to send it twenty times to one
person that you've warned about it.

thanks, and please don't do this again.

Nick.


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Mayer)
Subject: Re: Foreign Clubs
Date: 30 Jan 1996 13:14:09 GMT

Enquires Jason ...

> Have any of you been to the German Techno street party, held around Easter
> for the last three years?  According to Muzik mag', they started three
> years ago with ten people, then the second had around a hundred people,
> then the third, last year, had ten thousand!  Fuck me, that's a lot of
> people in just three years!

> Your comments WILL be appreciated!


Ah, that'll be the Love Parade then i guess, what you're referring to.

Have a girlfriend living in/from Berlin means its a place oft frequented by
meself. And the day of last yrs love parade was no exception!! It's top.
Simply wild. I would advise any technohead, this year if you can, GO - don't
miss it!

Ithink you're info from Muzik is a little exagerated unles pehaps you've
simply missed one yr; it would sound about right then. Ah wait!!! No thats
it... *last* yr ie 1995 there was about *200* thou ppl, not 10K. '94 i think
there were about 10K, and a few hundred ppl the yr before. Are you sure you're
not qouting from a year old copy of the mag?!

Anyway, basically, it started out as gay/lesbian techno
oriented demonstration/party but they had some problems with the authorities,
something to do with who would fund the cleaning up afterwards so it became,
if you like, a free for all event to do no more than celebrate techno. There
was definately still very much a "free love" type atmosphere though.

You really have to *be* there. You get that sort of festival vibe at places
like... er, festivals (like Glasto or TG). Well its kinda like that but you're
not confined by the grounds of the festival site. I arrived there at about 9 in
the morning and already the place (Berlin - east & west) was buzzing.
Everywhere you look; spangly lycra hotpants, tight black leather pants, pierced
nipples, pierced belly buttons (oohhhhh!), ppl drinking Red Bull, Power
Booster, etc. Generally, technofiles having a groovy day. And of course,
there's the constant audio barrage (sp?) of whistles and breakbeatbox's. And it
was bastard hot too, which always helps that festy vibe. Yes, thats a point.
It's in June sometime (a couple of wks after Glastonbury i think it was last
yr).

In the afternoon theree's a carnival like procession through the centre of West
Berlin with something like 30 or 40 sound systems. The whole place is a sea of
hot sweaty bodies, bottles of warm Evian, and cans of sickly warm strong lager.
And ppl climbing up any possible vantage point they can (traffic lights,
lampposts, etc). At one point i was clung to the side of a wall with a few
foot/hand holes in it, spiderman style!! Then in the evening every technoclub
that has/does/will/could/might exist in Berlin opens up. You're garaunteed,
whatever your particular favoured style you'll find it somewhere.

We went to a fairly unique event in the evening. Which suprisingly was quite
poorley attented. I guess a bit to ambient (and out of town too). That was,
an outdoor-cinema screening of the Chaplin film "Goldrush" (in german of
course ;-> ) with a live soundtrack by... The Orb! It was suprisingly good. I'd
wondered how such laid back ambient vibes (it was more or less their latests
LP which they played) could fit the manicness of a chaplin film. But it went
really well. Loads of weird trippy noises during the bit where chaplins
hallucinating - really funny (and quite scary. probably. well, if you were
tripping too i guess!).

To be truthfull, I'm not a big clubber and although we halfheartedly made our
way to a club after the orb, we were so knackered, the size of the queue was
enough for us to wimp out and simply have a few beers in a cafe on the way home.
But it was a really excellent day. And i'll be going again for sure this year.

I'll mention it nearer the time, but obviousley, if any1 from this list is
going...  Unfortunately i can't offer a place to crash, on behalf of my
girlfriend. She *still* lives with her bloody parents and she hasn't even got
any technoheadfriends. But anyway, who needs sleep!! ;->

...well me actually.


Hope this helps. Sorry about no Orbital content to ppl who aren't interested.
Suffice to say i'm gagging for the new album to come out. But then who isn't.

Cheers for now,

R

"All good reggae is all top end and bottom end - and fuck the middle off."
 J Lydon.


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Mayer)
Subject: Re: Chain mail
Date: 30 Jan 1996 13:18:51 GMT

> Ooo-er.  I've deleted the chain letter by mistake.  I'm shakin' in me pointy
> boots.  I'll keep ye posted if anything terrible happens to me.

My trouble is i'm too supersticious. I had to get sombody else to delete it
for me !!!

R.


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From: Stephen Cusack <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #79
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:29:21 GMT

Why oh why have I received Digest #79 *five* times already today?  As
much as I like Orbital this is a bit much (esp. with the lovely chain
letter inserted...)!

Bye,

  --Steve


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: The only thing worse than a chain eMail..........
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:29:21 GMT

    =20
     The only thing worse than a chain eMail is the *?#$!& that sends them=20
     on.
    =20
     Cut them out - please !!!!!
    =20
     I must agree with the general mail coming through - this is not the=20
     place for chain mail and the like - if there IS a place for it at all.
    =20
     Let's be honest - it seems hard enough to spot an eMail about ORBITAL=20
     in here these days, nevermind that sort of thing clouding the=20
     issue......
    =20
     [e-mail] (preparing himself for the backlash)
    =20
    =20


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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [none]
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:51:40 +0000

interesting what meighan was saying about club scene around chicago.  the
pattern in ireland (excluding dublin which has a bigger and seemingly more
cut-throat competitive, volatile scene -- don't know a whole lot about it to be
honest) is different.  techno clubs don't tend to become mainstream, they
retain a _fairly_ underground sound and the patrons are dedicated techno-heads,
not part-timers who'd be happier with more commercial stuff.  having said that,
techno has been very big here for years and is getting bigger.  the clubs are
generally inexpensive (about $6-8 I suppose) and inexclusive (although as
elsewhere fashion and peer pressure cause most people to wear clubby kinda
gear)

the proliferation of techno has broadened the music scene in general, acid
jazz, retro-disco, dub and many other genres have become popular often at the
expense of the indie-guitar-oriented music which was predominant for years.
 very little native output as yet though, thats the only drawback.  give us
another few years!

as (i'm told) happened in england a few years back, the state and middle-aged
attitude to dance culture has changed from one of relative indifference to
hysterical suspicion.  helped on by a cynical media, some e-related deaths and
a general rise in the level of violent organised crime (mostly drug-related it
must be said, but i won't turn this into a prohibition rant just now) the
average over-30 in ireland views techno culture as subversive, corrupting and
drug-soaked.  (hell maybe they're right but the same thing could be said about
the traditional 9-5 aspirations of irish people,just substitute "drink" for
"drug").  the result of the mainstream predjudice against techno is that the
Tribal Gathering which was meant to be held here in sep. 95 was banned by the
police.  locals had had no objections but upon hearing that it was
rave-oriented they all went apeshit and mobilised the long arm of the law to
have it stopped.
Feile (irish for party), an annual festival, took place practically under
martial law in 95 even though there were only about 30-40 thou. at it!
 Contrast this with the irish ploughing championships held a month later, 70000
visitors in a week, a parking nightmare, hordes of drunken rural types, and not
a warrant, a statute nor an editorial word said against it.  i've nothing
against traditional culture but i wish the same rules applied to all of us.

(Feile btw was mind-blowing nonetheless, lineup included Orbital, the Orb, Carl
Cox, Chemical Brothers, Laurent Garnier, Underworld, Fluke, Galliano, can't
remember who all else, was very difficult to take it all in. recommended)

hmmm this has become a bit of a rant anyway.  hope someone finds it interesting
;)  well thats chicago, london and ireland (ex. dublin) covered, c'mon the rest
of ye.

- --
         |||||||||
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       [   O   O   ]     Conor Fox
        |    U    |
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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The only thing worse than a chain eMail..........
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:59:03 +0000

On Jan 30,  2:02pm, [e-mail] wrote:
> Subject: The only thing worse than a chain eMail..........
>
> [ text/plain
>   Encoded with "quoted-printable" ] :

>      The only thing worse than a chain eMail is the *?#$!& that sends them
>      on.
>
>      Cut them out - please !!!!!
>
>      I must agree with the general mail coming through - this is not the
>      place for chain mail and the like - if there IS a place for it at all.
>
>      Let's be honest - it seems hard enough to spot an eMail about ORBITAL
>      in here these days, nevermind that sort of thing clouding the
>      issue......
>
>      [e-mail] (preparing himself for the backlash)
>
definitely agree re. chain mail.  re. clouding of issue, i'm new here, if more
established subscribers object to non-orbital stuff i apologise.  the
impression i got was that it was in practice a mailing list devoted to more
general discussion of techno-related topics, with the love of orbital's music
acting as a kind of unifying force.



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From: Filthy Mick <[e-mail]>
Subject: It's time to die
Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:14:11 GMT

Dear pals,

Well, about that chain letter thing. I hadn't even come in to read my
mail yesterday so I didn't know about it, but within twenty minutes I
had a load of work dumped on my plate, my best friend ran off with my
favourite test-tube and my originality left me.

Proof indeed, folks, if more be needed, that this sort of thing is
A COMPLETE LOAD OF BOLLOCKS. And if that ain't so, may God stike me
down. (Zzap.Sizzle.Melt.)

Seriously though, people tell me off for having an obtuse sense of
humour and then THAT crap gets half the list to itself? Tell me it's
not true. Bad luck? I've had more bad luck playing our beloved
lottery than sending on chain letters, and I know which one is more
likely to make me rich. Or famous. Or sexually attractive.

So don't listen to this nonsense. I bet Orbital don't reply to chain
letters. I should know, I tried to get a hundred quid out of them
with one last year.

And now for a relevant subject: Didn't those European drumbashers
appear at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival last year? If it was them,
then they were completely ace. Pity I couldn't get into the mood, but
it WAS about ten below, raining and I didn't have any money left for
a pint.

Even more relevance: Is it true that Orbital are bringing out a
single BEFORE the new album is released? I didn't think they did that
usually, but my mate swears he read it in MixMag or TechnoMoog303
Junkie Monthly or something a while ago.

And here's the latest thing to bug me.........who does everyone want
Orbital to take on tour with them this time around? I'd like to see
SpringHeel Jack, personally. Or maybe that guy in Mu-ziq, wotsisname,
Mike Paradinas. I still haven't heard him play "Roy Castle" live yet.

Any thoughts?

Love 'n' cogitations,


Filthy Mick


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From: Hary J Walsh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Online CD shopping.
Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:02:50 GMT

Hi,
Last week I mentioned the benefits of Online Shopping from Europe on
the IDM list.  I've got lots of request for URLs ( presumably from
people who don't have adresses of search engines :> ).  So here's a
few places that will sort you out for some of you CD collection needs.

<URL:http://www.persimmon.com/CDLand>
<URL:http://www.cdnow.com/>
<URL:http://www.cdworld.com/>


For all you people from this side of the atlantic, it seems to work
out really cheaply if you buy in largish quantities.

Which reminds me: Chopper, Conor etc..  When is the next order going
in?  I want my LFO!!!!!

- --
Hary J Walsh                             [e-mail]
                                         [phone]
Even a stopped clock gives               Digital Equipment International,
the right time twice a day.              Galway, Ireland.


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From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Grail has been found........
Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:44:00 gmt

I have at last found a place to buy Orbital styled glasses. I found a place
on Huddersfield market selling very similar glasses to Orbital's (though
they are only in yellow and have a little writing on the front). I have yet
to buy any my self (cut backs in student grants etc) but a friend of mine
(hello Martin if your listening) has some similar ones already, and they are
bloody powerfull. I did not have chance to look at the price but I'm told
they retail for ?5.00 (apprx).

Sorry if that bored you !

Fat Peat




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From: "Darren Bauler's World Of Shit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #79
Date: 30 Jan 1996 11:23:35 -0600 (CST)

hey. sure you already know, just in case not...

keep getting #79 overnadoverandoverandover.

please make it stop.

thanks.

     -darren bauler




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From: Filthy Mick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Oh my God, what have I done???
Date: 24 Jan 1996 15:39:06 GMT

Dear all,

It's the filthy one again. May I just pre-empt the inevitable
avalanche of pissed-off mails by saying that I didn't mean to start
off a jokes section to the list....I didn't know what I was
doing...It was only a bit of fun to brighten up my dreary
existence...and I did have some music-type stuff in the post....I'm
so ashamed....< SOBS >

Sorry about all that. What I really loved was the message that said
"Now that Filthy Mick's started the craze off"....cheers Jason!

Well, no doubt this will be my last posting before Lazlo sends the
Net Police to "delete" me in the dead of night....I'M INNOCENT!
I SWEAR IT! IT WASN'T ME!

Where was I? Oh yeah. Finitribe album. Dead good. Bought it after I
saw them at a Herbal Tea Party in Manchester...they were brilliant.
Can't remember too much about the night, but I was glowing all over
afterwards.

What about music jokes? Am I allowed music jokes? Or ones about drugs?

Shit, now I'll be getting "dance culture isn't irrevocably linked to
drugs culture" mails. Oh well. It's been fun. Please try to remember
me when I'm gone....


"When asked for famous last words, all Mick could say was 'Well, at
least I'm not attractive.'"

Byeee






Filthy Mick

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From: " PETER V. NAYLOR " <[e-mail]>
Subject: Interested?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:05:26 -0500 (EST)


My first message without the particular's,  save the jealousy factor of
not being on your side of the world with all the access you have to their
shows and not having to deal with import rates...but to the point.
  I 've been watching you subscriber's for awhile now and for those of
you who are experimenting on your own tables or mixing your own shit I
have a proposition...
  I'm in the midst of SGi ecstasy, a six-month intensive course learning
the in's and out's of some very nifty 3-d software produced by a
homegrown company called SoftImage, the end result being a Minute and a
half long demo of my imagery, which in turn will be sent on video to
every company on this planet (french and english speaking) that uses the
software.  In other words quite a few (ILM, Dreamworks, Sony, Video
Gaming Producers etc...)
  Long-winded, he comes to the point:  I require A 90 second mix of some
of our favorite sounds,of a certain mood, ambient being the key.  Any
takers can call on me at will and we can discuss it further as this is an
Orbital list after all...sorry Control.  On that note, Sniv was my
favorite so far for as much as it told more of a story,  Brownie for the
bedtime instigation of some damn fine dream sequences.
   Lived in Whistler, British Columbia for five years and we have this
little get together every summer called " Summer Love " where I got to
see Lady Miss Kier an the gang go off the best by Dub Tribe.  Definitely
a recommendation.  The Vancouver Scene I know only a little of and missed
it during it's climax, but the quality of it's DJ's is not to be
undermined...Minute Maid, Czech, Spun-K, T-Bone and others with visits
from Keoki and Donald Glaude...the west coast rules.

  Stuck in the East until it's all over
  P.

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From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey Carlton )
Subject: Oh God,  I'm so very sorry
Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:12:37 -0800

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>
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>>Subject: Good luck!
>>
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>>>Old-Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
>>>Date: 24 Jan 96 14:00:30 EST
>>>From: "NIELS T. PETERSEN" <[e-mail]>
>>>To: "(unknown)" <[e-mail]>
>>>Cc: TOM JERRARD <[e-mail]>,
>>>        "Michael C. Munro" <[e-mail]>
>>>Subject: Good luck!
>>>Resent-Message-Id: <"q22fc.0.au2.8Ae1n"@nyx>
>>>Resent-From: [e-mail]
>>>X-Mailing-List: <[e-mail]> archive/latest/6179
>>>X-Loop: [e-mail]
>>>Resent-Sender: [e-mail]
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    Gary Richards, 101476,1230
>>>TO:    Angela, 75707,352
>>>    Daniel Batten, 74762,2527
>>>    Tre Cool, 75441,332
>>>    chuck h, 103460,1721
>>>    Joanne Hossack, 102077,774
>>>    Sandra Milano, 75053,371
>>>    *Sexy Nicole*, 103204,1167
>>>    Cheryl Secomb, 76764,1055
>>>    User 69, 101476,1230
>>>DATE:    20/01/96 01:39
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    ANDREW FORREST, 100775,511
>>>TO:    gary richards, 101476,1230
>>>CC:    Mike Evans, 72113,3041
>>>    Alex Kilbride, 101527,1140
>>>DATE:    18/01/96 19:34
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    Jon-Paul Mulholland, 100661,617
>>>TO:    Cyber charlie, 101545,3216
>>>CC:    Andrew Forrest, 100775,511
>>>    Joanne Harrod, 100676,3137
>>>    JENETTE, 100773,3545
>>>    Matthew Robinson, 100725,1461
>>>DATE:    15/01/96 22:16
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    Matthew Robinson, 100725,1461
>>>TO:    ANDREW CLARK, 100702,71
>>>    Cuddles!, 103230,3726
>>>    Sarah Mac/Spotty Dog!, 100417,2364
>>>    JON-PAUL MULHOLLAND, 100661,617
>>>    CHARLOTTE SALTER, 100734,740
>>>    CRAAAIIIG SCOTT, 101320,3306
>>>    SIMON THOMAS, 100106,1005
>>>DATE:    14/01/96 02:40
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    Patricia, 102655,3467
>>>TO:    !!WK!!, 100630,376
>>>CC:    !hacker!, 100645,1461
>>>    $Motocrossmaniac$, 75563,2351
>>>    (\/)ushroom-17-M-UK, 100725,1461
>>>    *Agueybana*, 102645,3203
>>>    *ALFONSO*, 102044,1156
>>>    *Bag-O'-Wind*, 74716,3476
>>>    *Beamin'*, 103514,2515
>>>    .l., 103127,1304
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>>>    Armand-Austin, 74663,3507
>>>    "Southern Belle", 103272,3117
>>>    *~Ocean Girl 1~*, 102652,342
>>>    *A Country Girl*, 102777,42
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>>>    *autumn leaves*, 102624,2473
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>>>    *"The Moose"*, 76265,1606
>>>    ! ! vanished ! !, 100770,3243
>>>DATE:    14/01/96 01:19
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>>
>>>From:    KIERON LAUNDER, 100130,2150
>>>TO:    wife's nylons (m), 75342,1432
>>>CC:    User 100, 103476,554
>>>    User 118, 100344,2374
>>>    User 160, 103144,3313
>>>    User 185, 71726,2116
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>>>    User 411, 102516,3361
>>>    User 430, 103132,3514
>>>    User 80, 102655,3467
>>>DATE:    13/01/96 12:20 PM
>>>
>>>RE:    Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>Pass it on! Good Luck Chain Letter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This message has been sent to you for good luck. The original is in
New
>>England.
>>>It has been sent around the world nine times.  The luck has now been
sent to
>>>you.
>>>You will recieve good luck within four days of recieving this
>>message...provided
>>>
>>>you, in turn, send it on, This is no joke.  You will reiceve good
luck in
your
>>>mailbox.  Send copies to people you think need good luck.  Do not
keep this
>>>message.
>>>*This message must leave your hands in 96 hours*
>>>A United States Air Force Officer recieved 470,000 dollars.  Another
man
>>>recieved
>>>40,000 dollars and lost it when he broke the chain.  Whereas in the
>>Philippines,
>>>Gene Welch lost his wife 51 days after recieving this message.  He
failed to
>>>circulate the message.  However, before his death, he recieved
7,555,000
>>dollars
>>>
>>>Please send 20 copies and see what happens in four days. The chain
comes
from
>>>Venezuela and was written by Saul De Groda, A Missionary from South
America.
>>>Since the copy must tour the world you must make 20 copies and send
them
via e
>>>mail  or postal mail to friends and associates.  After a few days
you will
>>get a
>>>surprise. This is true, even if you are not superstitious.
>>>Do note the following: Constantine Dias recieved the chain in 1958.
He asked
>>>his secretary to make 20 copies and send them out. A few days later
he won a
>>>lottery of 2 million dollars.  Carlos Dadditt, an office employee,
>recieved the
>>>messge and forgot it had to leave his hands in 96 hours.   He lost
his job.
>>>Later, after finding that message again, he mailed 20 copies.  A few
days
>later
>>>he got a better job.
>>>Darlan Fairchild recieved the message and, not believeng, THREW THE
MESSAGE
>>>AWAY!! Nine days later he died.  In 1987, the message, recieved by a
young
>>woman
>>>in California was very faded and barely readable. She retyped the
letter and
>>>got a new car.
>>>Good Luck but please remember: 20 copies of this messge must leave
your
hands
>>>in 96 hours.  You must not sign on this message
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>JEN LANGMAN [e-mail]
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>"i used to count sheep,but they made such a racket
>with there baahing that it kept me awake. Now i count
> orange's on an imaginary tree."
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>fill me in on your new vision,
>wake me up with your indecision.
>help me trust your mighty wisdom,
>Yes i eat cow
>I am not proud.---------------------------->nirvana
>
>
>       "moi volont'e habiter jamais"
>
>




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From: Matthew Sage <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaTour, who are they?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 23:19:22 -0800 (PST)


Hi everyone, I wonder if anyone can help me out here? I've been listening
to probably one of the most asked about song's, BLUE by LaTour. I've spent
a bit of time searching around the web, but it seems like this is a pretty
rare and lesser know group. Does anyone have any info on them, eg what
albums have they released (I know of "Home on the range"), singles (I know
of "E" and "Blue"), where are they from and are they still performing?
Sorry its not Orbital related, but its bugging me and the calibre of music
knowledge here is the best. So please help me. Thanks.

Matt (technophile)

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From: Davey N <[e-mail]>
Date: 30 Jan 1996 09:30:37 GMT

Thanks to the person who sent the chain letter,
and i mean that totally sarcastically.

nick.


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From: [e-mail] (Jason Fry)
Subject: Re: Naughtiness
Date: 30 Jan 1996 09:45:31 +0000

Well, cheers Ian.  I reckon we will accept your apologies, and I shall try
not to swear again.  hohoho.

Thanks for the offer of a floor to kip on, and if I should ever be in
London, I will remember your offer!

Jay

__________________________________

>Jason, it's not clever to swear........
>
>Richard, Filthy Mick and everyone else- I'm sorry if I came across like some
>moralising no-fun merchant, sometimes I think  'patronising' is my middle
>name. Still, it takes all sorts dunnit?
>
>P.S. Anyone who wants somewhere to crash in London for the London gig(s) is
>welcome at my place....and that includes dear old Jason.
>Ian J Rawlins-TechnoBongo!



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From: [e-mail] (Jason Fry)
Subject: Foreign Clubs
Date: 30 Jan 1996 09:46:32 +0000

Hello everybody,

I was just wondering if any of you have clubbed in foreign countries like
the States, Australia, or Canada for example?  If you have, what are your
experiences compared to London clubs like Club UK (Wandsworth),
Labyrinth(Hackney),The End and shit(oops, sorry Ian Rawlings!) like that.
What about big events like Tribal Gathering?  How do they scale against
ours?

Have any of you been to the German Techno street party, held around Easter
for the last three years?  According to Muzik mag', they started three
years ago with ten people, then the second had around a hundred people,
then the third, last year, had ten thousand!  Fuck me, that's a lot of
people in just three years!

Your comments WILL be appreciated!

Jason



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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Les Tambours du Bronx
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:22:47 +0000

Hows it goin?  Sorry I can't help you on the LaTour question Matt.  You've
inspired me though to make enquiries of my own.

So, any of ye ever heard of a French group called Les Tambours du Bronx?  I
think they're from Lyons.  I wasn't sure whether to call them a group or a band
or a troupe or what.  There's between 20 and 40 of 'em, each with a steel drum
and two big sticks.  What happens is the whole lot of them beat on their drums
(never!) and produce the most amazing tribal, intricate, intense music I've
ever heard.  I saw them in Aug. 94 in Lowlands Paradise in Holland and have
been trying to track 'em down since (www included) to try and get some
recordings but to no avail.  Hopefully they still exist.

Eternal gratitude to anyone who can help ;)


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        |    U    |
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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Chain mail
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:30:49 +0000

Ooo-er.  I've deleted the chain letter by mistake.  I'm shakin' in me pointy
boots.  I'll keep ye posted if anything terrible happens to me.

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From: [e-mail] (Jon Green)
Subject: Re: Oh God,  I'm so very sorry
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:43:33 +0000

At 10:12 pm 29/1/96, Jeffrey Carlton wrote:
>>>>This message has been sent to you for good luck. The original is in
>New
>>>England.
etc
etc

You know there are actually people out there who think they WILL get good
luck if they send these on.

Jon Green: [e-mail] / [e-mail]
"it's important to be nice but it's even more nice to be important"



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From: [e-mail] (Jon Green)
Subject: Re: LaTour, who are they?
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:47:00 +0000

Latour did a track a few years ago called "People are still having sex".
Billy Nasty and Phil Perry's mix of "E" is awesome, as is the Nush me dub
mix of "Blue". They were released as a double A-side on Blunted
Vinyl/Island in the UK in 93 or 94. "Blue" was in the film "Basic
Instinct".
That's all I know.

Cheers.

Jon Green: [e-mail] / [e-mail]
"it's important to be nice but it's even more nice to be important"



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From: mary meighan e bessmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: LaTour, who are they?
Date: 30 Jan 1996 06:45:46 -0500 (EST)

All I know about LaTour is that about 5 years ago they came out with a
single that I think was called "People are Still Having Sex." At least,
that was the in the song that was repeated more than anything.

I suppose that isn't much help.

meighan

On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Matthew Sage wrote:

>
> Hi everyone, I wonder if anyone can help me out here? I've been listening
> to probably one of the most asked about song's, BLUE by LaTour. I've spent
> a bit of time searching around the web, but it seems like this is a pretty
> rare and lesser know group. Does anyone have any info on them, eg what
> albums have they released (I know of "Home on the range"), singles (I know
> of "E" and "Blue"), where are they from and are they still performing?
> Sorry its not Orbital related, but its bugging me and the calibre of music
> knowledge here is the best. So please help me. Thanks.
>
> Matt (technophile)
>

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From: mary meighan e bessmer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Foreign Clubs
Date: 30 Jan 1996 06:55:29 -0500 (EST)

> Hello everybody,
>
> I was just wondering if any of you have clubbed in foreign countries like
> the States, Australia, or Canada for example?  If you have, what are your
> experiences compared to London clubs like Club UK (Wandsworth),
> Labyrinth(Hackney),The End and shit(oops, sorry Ian Rawlings!) like that.
> What about big events like Tribal Gathering?  How do they scale against
> ours?
>
 I'll give you a bried synopsis of my clubbing experience of ther the
past six years.

Basically, most of the clubs I have frequented were in Chicago. I never
went to a 10,000 member rave, but back in the early 90s,I was able to get to
go to about a
5,000 member rave when raves were still underground. It was intense and a
wonderful experience.  Now, they are little more than shaparoned dances
for junior high kids.

The general trend in clubs in America, in my opinion, is that their
popularity circulates in annual cycles. For example, a scene will be
really hot, the club will be very exclusive and expensive, the atmosphere
and music very exciting and intense, then it will slowly be infiltrated
by fraternaty boys and soroity chicks who are still content dancing to "A
Little Respect" by Erasure or the infamous Cure's "Just like Heaven." The
club makes a ton of money selling out, all the "cool" people leave, and
the club shuts down in about 16 months.  There are always the staple
clubs that can hang in for 10 years or more, but you would only go to
them on certain days -- Neo on Tuesday, Shelter on Saturday, Industry and
Crobar on WEdnesday, etc.  I'm sure this phenomenon is similar in other
countries.

meighan

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From: Davey N <[e-mail]>
Date: 30 Jan 1996 12:41:34 GMT

Talking of that Chain letter,
thanks, but i've also got sent it again by other people who i talk to,
who are probably on the list, which means i've got a few copies now.
It's one of those things, you know pretty much there's nothing in it, but
you're always a bit suspicious, and this suspicion is what drives the
whole thing in the first place.  Nobody really benefits from it unless of
course it does bring you good luck...and if my memory serves me right it
doesn't state that you have to send it to twenty different people, just
print it out twenty times stick it in an envelope and send it to someone
as a joke.  it's supposed to tour the world....????
If you are suspicious, and don't like the idea of bad luck, please don't
send the message to me, just arrange to send it twenty times to one
person that you've warned about it.


thanks, and please don't do this again.

Nick.

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Mayer)
Subject: Re: Foreign Clubs
Date: 30 Jan 1996 13:14:09 GMT



Enquires Jason ...

> Have any of you been to the German Techno street party, held around Easter
> for the last three years?  According to Muzik mag', they started three
> years ago with ten people, then the second had around a hundred people,
> then the third, last year, had ten thousand!  Fuck me, that's a lot of
> people in just three years!

> Your comments WILL be appreciated!


Ah, that'll be the Love Parade then i guess, what you're referring to.

Have a girlfriend living in/from Berlin means its a place oft frequented by
meself. And the day of last yrs love parade was no exception!! It's top.
Simply wild. I would advise any technohead, this year if you can, GO - don't
miss it!

Ithink you're info from Muzik is a little exagerated unles pehaps you've
simply missed one yr; it would sound about right then. Ah wait!!! No thats
it... *last* yr ie 1995 there was about *200* thou ppl, not 10K. '94 i think
there were about 10K, and a few hundred ppl the yr before. Are you sure you're
not qouting from a year old copy of the mag?!

Anyway, basically, it started out as gay/lesbian techno
oriented demonstration/party but they had some problems with the authorities,
something to do with who would fund the cleaning up afterwards so it became,
if you like, a free for all event to do no more than celebrate techno. There
was definately still very much a "free love" type atmosphere though.

You really have to *be* there. You get that sort of festival vibe at places
like... er, festivals (like Glasto or TG). Well its kinda like that but you're
not confined by the grounds of the festival site. I arrived there at about 9 in
the morning and already the place (Berlin - east & west) was buzzing.
Everywhere you look; spangly lycra hotpants, tight black leather pants, pierced
nipples, pierced belly buttons (oohhhhh!), ppl drinking Red Bull, Power
Booster, etc. Generally, technofiles having a groovy day. And of course,
there's the constant audio barrage (sp?) of whistles and breakbeatbox's. And it
was bastard hot too, which always helps that festy vibe. Yes, thats a point.
It's in June sometime (a couple of wks after Glastonbury i think it was last
yr).

In the afternoon theree's a carnival like procession through the centre of West
Berlin with something like 30 or 40 sound systems. The whole place is a sea of
hot sweaty bodies, bottles of warm Evian, and cans of sickly warm strong lager.
And ppl climbing up any possible vantage point they can (traffic lights,
lampposts, etc). At one point i was clung to the side of a wall with a few
foot/hand holes in it, spiderman style!! Then in the evening every technoclub
that has/does/will/could/might exist in Berlin opens up. You're garaunteed,
whatever your particular favoured style you'll find it somewhere.

We went to a fairly unique event in the evening. Which suprisingly was quite
poorley attented. I guess a bit to ambient (and out of town too). That was,
an outdoor-cinema screening of the Chaplin film "Goldrush" (in german of
course ;-> ) with a live soundtrack by... The Orb! It was suprisingly good. I'd
wondered how such laid back ambient vibes (it was more or less their latests
LP which they played) could fit the manicness of a chaplin film. But it went
really well. Loads of weird trippy noises during the bit where chaplins
hallucinating - really funny (and quite scary. probably. well, if you were
tripping too i guess!).

To be truthfull, I'm not a big clubber and although we halfheartedly made our
way to a club after the orb, we were so knackered, the size of the queue was
enough for us to wimp out and simply have a few beers in a cafe on the way home.
But it was a really excellent day. And i'll be going again for sure this year.

I'll mention it nearer the time, but obviousley, if any1 from this list is
going...  Unfortunately i can't offer a place to crash, on behalf of my
girlfriend. She *still* lives with her bloody parents and she hasn't even got
any technoheadfriends. But anyway, who needs sleep!! ;->

...well me actually.


Hope this helps. Sorry about no Orbital content to ppl who aren't interested.
Suffice to say i'm gagging for the new album to come out. But then who isn't.

Cheers for now,

R

"All good reggae is all top end and bottom end - and fuck the middle off."
 J Lydon.

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Mayer)
Subject: Re: Chain mail
Date: 30 Jan 1996 13:18:51 GMT



> Ooo-er.  I've deleted the chain letter by mistake.  I'm shakin' in me pointy
> boots.  I'll keep ye posted if anything terrible happens to me.

My trouble is i'm too supersticious. I had to get sombody else to delete it
for me !!!

R.

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From: Stephen Cusack <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #79
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:29:21 GMT

Why oh why have I received Digest #79 *five* times already today?  As
much as I like Orbital this is a bit much (esp. with the lovely chain
letter inserted...)!

Bye,

  --Steve

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: The only thing worse than a chain eMail..........
Date: 30 Jan 1996   14:02:07  +0100

    =20
     The only thing worse than a chain eMail is the *?#$!& that sends them=20
     on.
    =20
     Cut them out - please !!!!!
    =20
     I must agree with the general mail coming through - this is not the=20
     place for chain mail and the like - if there IS a place for it at all.
    =20
     Let's be honest - it seems hard enough to spot an eMail about ORBITAL=20
     in here these days, nevermind that sort of thing clouding the=20
     issue......
    =20
     [e-mail] (preparing himself for the backlash)
    =20
    =20

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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:51:40 +0000

interesting what meighan was saying about club scene around chicago.  the
pattern in ireland (excluding dublin which has a bigger and seemingly more
cut-throat competitive, volatile scene -- don't know a whole lot about it to be
honest) is different.  techno clubs don't tend to become mainstream, they
retain a _fairly_ underground sound and the patrons are dedicated techno-heads,
not part-timers who'd be happier with more commercial stuff.  having said that,
techno has been very big here for years and is getting bigger.  the clubs are
generally inexpensive (about $6-8 I suppose) and inexclusive (although as
elsewhere fashion and peer pressure cause most people to wear clubby kinda
gear)

the proliferation of techno has broadened the music scene in general, acid
jazz, retro-disco, dub and many other genres have become popular often at the
expense of the indie-guitar-oriented music which was predominant for years.
 very little native output as yet though, thats the only drawback.  give us
another few years!

as (i'm told) happened in england a few years back, the state and middle-aged
attitude to dance culture has changed from one of relative indifference to
hysterical suspicion.  helped on by a cynical media, some e-related deaths and
a general rise in the level of violent organised crime (mostly drug-related it
must be said, but i won't turn this into a prohibition rant just now) the
average over-30 in ireland views techno culture as subversive, corrupting and
drug-soaked.  (hell maybe they're right but the same thing could be said about
the traditional 9-5 aspirations of irish people,just substitute "drink" for
"drug").  the result of the mainstream predjudice against techno is that the
Tribal Gathering which was meant to be held here in sep. 95 was banned by the
police.  locals had had no objections but upon hearing that it was
rave-oriented they all went apeshit and mobilised the long arm of the law to
have it stopped.
Feile (irish for party), an annual festival, took place practically under
martial law in 95 even though there were only about 30-40 thou. at it!
 Contrast this with the irish ploughing championships held a month later, 70000
visitors in a week, a parking nightmare, hordes of drunken rural types, and not
a warrant, a statute nor an editorial word said against it.  i've nothing
against traditional culture but i wish the same rules applied to all of us.

(Feile btw was mind-blowing nonetheless, lineup included Orbital, the Orb, Carl
Cox, Chemical Brothers, Laurent Garnier, Underworld, Fluke, Galliano, can't
remember who all else, was very difficult to take it all in. recommended)

hmmm this has become a bit of a rant anyway.  hope someone finds it interesting
;)  well thats chicago, london and ireland (ex. dublin) covered, c'mon the rest
of ye.

--
         |||||||||
        |         |
       [   O   O   ]     Conor Fox
        |    U    |
         \ \___/ /
          \_____/        phone:  [phone]

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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: The only thing worse than a chain eMail..........
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:59:03 +0000

On Jan 30,  2:02pm, [e-mail] wrote:
> Subject: The only thing worse than a chain eMail..........
>
> [ text/plain
>   Encoded with "quoted-printable" ] :

>      The only thing worse than a chain eMail is the *?#$!& that sends them
>      on.
>
>      Cut them out - please !!!!!
>
>      I must agree with the general mail coming through - this is not the
>      place for chain mail and the like - if there IS a place for it at all.
>
>      Let's be honest - it seems hard enough to spot an eMail about ORBITAL
>      in here these days, nevermind that sort of thing clouding the
>      issue......
>
>      [e-mail] (preparing himself for the backlash)
>
definitely agree re. chain mail.  re. clouding of issue, i'm new here, if more
established subscribers object to non-orbital stuff i apologise.  the
impression i got was that it was in practice a mailing list devoted to more
general discussion of techno-related topics, with the love of orbital's music
acting as a kind of unifying force.


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From: Filthy Mick <[e-mail]>
Subject: It's time to die
Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:14:11 GMT

Dear pals,

Well, about that chain letter thing. I hadn't even come in to read my
mail yesterday so I didn't know about it, but within twenty minutes I
had a load of work dumped on my plate, my best friend ran off with my
favourite test-tube and my originality left me.

Proof indeed, folks, if more be needed, that this sort of thing is
A COMPLETE LOAD OF BOLLOCKS. And if that ain't so, may God stike me
down. (Zzap.Sizzle.Melt.)

Seriously though, people tell me off for having an obtuse sense of
humour and then THAT crap gets half the list to itself? Tell me it's
not true. Bad luck? I've had more bad luck playing our beloved
lottery than sending on chain letters, and I know which one is more
likely to make me rich. Or famous. Or sexually attractive.

So don't listen to this nonsense. I bet Orbital don't reply to chain
letters. I should know, I tried to get a hundred quid out of them
with one last year.

And now for a relevant subject: Didn't those European drumbashers
appear at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival last year? If it was them,
then they were completely ace. Pity I couldn't get into the mood, but
it WAS about ten below, raining and I didn't have any money left for
a pint.

Even more relevance: Is it true that Orbital are bringing out a
single BEFORE the new album is released? I didn't think they did that
usually, but my mate swears he read it in MixMag or TechnoMoog303
Junkie Monthly or something a while ago.

And here's the latest thing to bug me.........who does everyone want
Orbital to take on tour with them this time around? I'd like to see
SpringHeel Jack, personally. Or maybe that guy in Mu-ziq, wotsisname,
Mike Paradinas. I still haven't heard him play "Roy Castle" live yet.

Any thoughts?

Love 'n' cogitations,


Filthy Mick

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From: Hary J Walsh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Online CD shopping.
Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:02:50 GMT

Hi,
Last week I mentioned the benefits of Online Shopping from Europe on
the IDM list.  I've got lots of request for URLs ( presumably from
people who don't have adresses of search engines :> ).  So here's a
few places that will sort you out for some of you CD collection needs.

<URL:http://www.persimmon.com/CDLand>
<URL:http://www.cdnow.com/>
<URL:http://www.cdworld.com/>


For all you people from this side of the atlantic, it seems to work
out really cheaply if you buy in largish quantities.

Which reminds me: Chopper, Conor etc..  When is the next order going
in?  I want my LFO!!!!!

--
Hary J Walsh                             [e-mail]
                                         [phone]
Even a stopped clock gives               Digital Equipment International,
the right time twice a day.              Galway, Ireland.

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From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Grail has been found........
Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:44:00 gmt


I have at last found a place to buy Orbital styled glasses. I found a place
on Huddersfield market selling very similar glasses to Orbital's (though
they are only in yellow and have a little writing on the front). I have yet
to buy any my self (cut backs in student grants etc) but a friend of mine
(hello Martin if your listening) has some similar ones already, and they are
bloody powerfull. I did not have chance to look at the price but I'm told
they retail for ?5.00 (apprx).

Sorry if that bored you !

Fat Peat



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From: "Darren Bauler's World Of Shit" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Orbital Mailing List Digest V1 #79
Date: 30 Jan 1996 11:23:35 -0600 (CST)


hey. sure you already know, just in case not...

keep getting #79 overnadoverandoverandover.

please make it stop.

thanks.

     -darren bauler


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: blah, blah, long eMail, blah, blah.........
Date: 31 Jan 1996   10:54:09  +0100

    =20
     > foxc wrote:-
     >
     > "the impression i got was that it was in practice a mailing list   =20
     >  devoted to more general discussion of techno-related topics, with =20
     >  the love of orbital's music acting as a kind of unifying force."
    =20
     .....and I have to admit he IS right of course. I was caught up in a=20
     vitriolic moment with all the "chain mail" fever going on.  =20
    =20
     The service must be doing something right 'cos I haven't unsubscribed=20
     yet - though I must admit to preferring discussion about musical=20
     platters - be they shiny and 5" or black and 12".=20
    =20
     To that end I'll recommend "0095" by Gas, on the em:t label. Enhanced=20
     using the Roland SoundSpace system it's a real rollercoaster of sound=20
     (whoops sounded a bit like a music journo....) from a track lasting=20
     less than 1 second (sample it and slow it down yourself) to two=20
     "hidden" tracks - you'll be drained and probably disorientated - NOT=20
     one to listen to in the dead of night!!
     Does anybody know of any newer release by Gas ??
    =20
     And, while I'm here, who ARE the female Orbital-listers that Filthy Mi=
ck=20
     could upset (Hi Mick - great gags !) ?? Unless I seem to have found a=20=
bad=20
     time to join the list they don't seem to be many of the "fairer sex" o=
ut=20
     there in list land. Is "fairer sex" a non-PC term now ?? Does anybody=20=
care=20
     ?=20
    =20
     Never mind "Are We Here?" - are you out there ?? Let me know !
    =20
     [e-mail]
        Recently named in Who's Who as=20
        "obviously some nut with eMail and too much time on his hands......=
"=20
    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20
    =20


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From: Sanne Boshuizen <[e-mail]>
Subject: About Amsterdam.
Date: 31 Jan 1996 13:00:32 +0100

At 14:59 30-01-96 +0000, you wrote:

>re. clouding of issue, i'm new here, if more
>established subscribers object to non-orbital stuff i apologise.  the
>impression i got was that it was in practice a mailing list devoted to more
>general discussion of techno-related topics, with the love of orbital's music
>acting as a kind of unifying force.
>

I agree with Conor. How can you write about Orbital (or any band for that
matter) for weeks or months on end without conversation becoming a little
silent or strained and restricted? Until there's a new album and gigs we'll
just have to chat about a thing that orbitalfans have in common: good taste.

So, i'll tell you a little about the dance scene in Holland; well actually,
in Amsterdam, because that's all i know. It's rather modest I should say.
There aren't many huge clubs with huge line-ups. And if there are they're
usually pretty gabber (yes, I'm painfully aware of the massive gabber
population in holland).  So that leaves me with the smaller clubs and
things. Mazzo is a club that can be quite cool and there's lots of things
going on in the melkweg (milkyway) and in paradiso. Besides dutch dj's, many
guest dj's, most from the UK, play here. So with modest I don't mean the
techno scene is not alive. Every weekend there are loads of boys and girls
going to find a good time in clubs or parties.

Also in the summertime somewhere around August there's this thing called
lowlands festival. I think it started 3 years ago as a festival with all
sorts of music but the techno share has gradually increased since then. Last
year  Juan Atkins, Chemical Brothers and I can't remember who else were there.
But this is all so personal, so you ask someone else and they say different
things. But I think anyone will agree that A'dam is definitely worth visiting.
...SB...


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From: Sanne Boshuizen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: blah, blah, long eMail, blah, blah.........
Date: 31 Jan 1996 13:20:39 +0100

At 10:54 31-01-96 +0100, you wrote:

>
>     And, while I'm here, who ARE the female Orbital-listers that Filthy Mick
>     could upset (Hi Mick - great gags !) ?? Unless I seem to have found a bad
>     time to join the list they don't seem to be many of the "fairer sex" out
>     there in list land. Is "fairer sex" a non-PC term now ?? Does anybody
care
>     ?

Well, I am one of the fairer sex(?) but I think some of the less fair(?) sex
got things confused. I can't speak for all women, but I think moron jokes
like that don't insult or upset women in particular. Why make the difference
between men and women here? Sexist jokes like that are just a waste of time
for intelligent people of both sexes. I find it a little patronising when
people think women can't handle that sort of humour. No offense, ok?!

Bye, sanne.
...SB...


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From: Michael Lyons <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: About Amsterdam.
Date: 31 Jan 1996 13:31:15 +0100 (MET)

> So, i'll tell you a little about the dance scene in Holland; well actually,
> in Amsterdam...

> ...there's lots of things
> going on in the melkweg (milkyway) and in paradiso. Besides dutch dj's, many
> guest dj's, most from the UK, play here.

You forgot to mention that Orbital played here in the Paradiso recently!
Also, the excellent Dutch DJ "Speedy J" has played there a couple of times.
The Paradiso also has a regular techno/ambient evening called "Welcome to
the Future," which kicks ass (in general :-)).

Mike


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From: [e-mail] (Jon Green)
Subject: Re: The only thing worse than a chain eMail..........
Date: 31 Jan 1996 11:10:25 +0000

At 2:59 pm 30/1/96, Conor Fox wrote:
>the
>impression i got was that it was in practice a mailing list devoted to more
>general discussion of techno-related topics, with the love of orbital's music
>acting as a kind of unifying force.

That's the impression I've got, and it's the way I like it. Let's face it,
there's only so much to be said about one band.

Jon Green: [e-mail] / [e-mail]
"dogdirty numbangel in the doorway she was lipstickbeautifultears and all
in space. you hand girls, steel chemicals and i've grown close to you and
you just groan. comeover she smiled let your feelings slip but not your
mask random blonde country, all high density random blonde country, all
high density you are my drugreal lolita speak dogdirtynumb cracking wet big
big time acidbear. babes and babes remembering nothing. you like my tin
thorn wet. like an angel alone. derail."



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From: Hary J Walsh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Date: 31 Jan 1996 13:24:02 GMT

>>>>> "Conor" == Conor Fox <[e-mail]> writes:

   Conor> techno clubs don't tend to become mainstream,
   Conor> they retain a _fairly_ underground sound and the patrons are
   Conor> dedicated techno-heads, not part-timers who'd be happier
   Conor> with more commercial stuff.
More to the point, any club that has attempted to become more
appealing to the mainstream ( The Castle in Galway, Strictly Rythem in
Limerick ) has had a noticable deteriation in attendance and general
mood.  Clubs begin to turn away people who look like they are going to
enjoy the music and drugs and soon all that's left is a pretty
uneventful night.  It usually only takes a couple of months for the
doors to be thrown wide open again.

   Conor> having said that, techno has
   Conor> been very big here for years and is getting bigger.  the
   Conor> clubs are generally inexpensive (about $6-8 I suppose) and
   Conor> inexclusive (although as elsewhere fashion and peer pressure
   Conor> cause most people to wear clubby kinda gear)
And of course everyone speaks with 'sorted' - 'geezer' - 'wicked'
thrown around here and there.

   Conor> people,just substitute "drink" for "drug").  the result of
   Conor> the mainstream predjudice against techno is that the Tribal
   Conor> Gathering which was meant to be held here in sep. 95 was
   Conor> banned by the police.
Any news on Tribal Gathering 96 coming to Ireland?  I heard a rumour
that they are going to try to have it in Fermanagh, which is unlikely
now with this D.A.A.D. group so active.

   Conor> (Feile btw was mind-blowing nonetheless, lineup included
   Conor> Orbital, the Orb, Carl Cox, Chemical Brothers, Laurent
   Conor> Garnier, Underworld, Fluke, Galliano, can't remember who all
   Conor> else, was very difficult to take it all in. recommended)
Don't forget <all kneel> Plastikman.

Hary J Walsh                             [e-mail]
                                         [phone]
Even a stopped clock gives               Digital Equipment International,
the right time twice a day.              Galway, Ireland.


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From: Hary J Walsh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Listening to Sniv' last night...
Date: 31 Jan 1996 13:33:41 GMT

I was listening to 'I wish I had Duck Feet' last night and noticed
that if you switch between what the freak show host and plastic
surgery advertiser are saying that sentences can still be formed.
One in particular that I can remember is as follows


Plastic Surgeon:  Perhaps you'd like  |
                  nose eyelids or ears|
Freak Show host:  who has a beard,    |just like any man would be
                                      |proud to have.


So listen to the plastic surgeon until she says ears, then switch to
what the freak show guy is saying.  There are a few more, but lets
just say my short term memory wasn't functioning enough for me to be
able to recall them at the moment.


--
Hary J Walsh                             [e-mail]
                                         [phone]
Even a stopped clock gives               Digital Equipment International,
the right time twice a day.              Galway, Ireland.


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From: Conor Fox <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: About Amsterdam.
Date: 31 Jan 1996 13:47:24 +0000

i guess non-orbital discussion has been pretty much endorsed!  i think the h.
bros would approve.

hi to sanne.  I spent summer 94 in a'dam, best summer of my life i reckon.  i
was in mazzos (cool) and melkweg (strange place) a couple of times, never made
it to paradiso unfortunately.  there was a club in 118 herengracht that we kept
going back to (it was quite secretive so i hope i'm not giving away deadly
confidential info), it was completely mind-blowing.  have you seen dimitri? i
never saw him when in holland but i have a mix of his, excellent stuff, he's
playing here (cork) this weekend.  i was also at the lowlands festival in 94, a
unique experience; amazing music (bravo tent ruled in 94, but don't ask me who
played!) and the other goings-on were the icing on the cake (bizarre fiery
pageants, spoof inspector clouseaus walking around confiscating spliffs in
jest, you had to be there i suppose)

whats does gabber mean btw?  only came across that word today.  if its a racist
term then fuck you.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Not offended
Date: 31 Jan 1996 10:12:38 -0500

I am one of the females on the list and I found the jokes to be so amusing
that I printed them out so I could have some new jokes to tell! But then
again it takes much to offend me.

I agree that this is not a "jokes" mailing list, but a joke here and there
sure brightens up the day!

Have an Orbital day!

Sabrina


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From: "P.D. Mottram N9551159" <[e-mail]>
Subject: THE MIX
Date: 31 Jan 1996 15:10:00 gmt


I don't know whether anyone has mentioned this so far, but there is a small
interview with Orbital in the Mix magazine (well a very small interview
actually...) . There is an article about the strongroom suite of studios,
where Orbital have their own studio. It also includes a few pictures of them
too. Hmm quite interesting.

Cheers

Fat Peat



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From: "Renee Baker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: blah, blah, long eMail, blah, blah.........
Date: 31 Jan 1996 07:19:59 -0800


I always though of myself as being pretty fair and of the "fairer sex".  I
wasn't offended by Filthy Mick's joke, but then I can make a sailor blush...

;-)

Regards,

Renee
_______________________________________________________________________________

     > foxc wrote:-
     >
     > "the impression i got was that it was in practice a mailing list
     >  devoted to more general discussion of techno-related topics, with
     >  the love of orbital's music acting as a kind of unifying force."

     .....and I have to admit he IS right of course. I was caught up in a
     vitriolic moment with all the "chain mail" fever going on.

     The service must be doing something right 'cos I haven't unsubscribed
     yet - though I must admit to preferring discussion about musical
     platters - be they shiny and 5" or black and 12".

     To that end I'll recommend "0095" by Gas, on the em:t label. Enhanced
     using the Roland SoundSpace system it's a real rollercoaster of sound
     (whoops sounded a bit like a music journo....) from a track lasting
     less than 1 second (sample it and slow it down yourself) to two
     "hidden" tracks - you'll be drained and probably disorientated - NOT
     one to listen to in the dead of night!!
     Does anybody know of any newer release by Gas ??

     And, while I'm here, who ARE the female Orbital-listers that Filthy Mick
     could upset (Hi Mick - great gags !) ?? Unless I seem to have found a bad
     time to join the list they don't seem to be many of the "fairer sex" out
     there in list land. Is "fairer sex" a non-PC term now ?? Does anybody care
     ?

     Never mind "Are We Here?" - are you out there ?? Let me know !

     [e-mail]
        Recently named in Who's Who as
        "obviously some nut with eMail and too much time on his hands......"


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From: Davey N <[e-mail]>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Date: 31 Jan 1996 14:41:22 GMT

I remember having this discussion before,
Yes it is an Orbital mailing list, but orbital do take part in the niece
of electronic music and art culture, so discussing any of these topics is
about the same in my book.  Also, people subscribe to a mailing list
because they like the aspect of the mailing list....    'd rather have a
few jokes, and a few discussions about decent music than which razors the
hartnoll brothers use, and what they eat every wednesday for breakfast.

What however i do object to is Chain letters, especially on mailing
lists, because that means that if you do believe them you'll end up
sending probably to other people you know, many off the mailing
list....in the end it means people get clogged up with stupid worthless
letters.  Obviously people enjoy music and films and games...so rather
than flaming people for not discussing relavent topics, just use the
delete key.


All the best,

Nick.


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From: "Conor Fox" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Filthy Mick's jokes
Date: 31 Jan 1996 15:39:39 +0000

my curiosity is unbearably piqued.  i missed these off-colour jokes.  any
chance someone could resend one or two of them to me?


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From: [e-mail] (Richard Mayer)
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject!
Date: 31 Jan 1996 16:29:33 GMT



Nick Davey wrote :

> I remember having this discussion before,
> <stuff about not turning the list into a trainspotters guide to Orbital>
> :
> <more stuff about not sending chainletters to a list but also not getting
>  stressed out when sbd does>

Sound advice. Mind you i deleted it and this morning i got not one but *2*
parking tickets within an hour. By the *same* traffic warden!!

I've no doubt at all that had i complied with the chain mail i *wouldn't* have
gone out and got pissed last night and therefore *wouldn't* have overslept
this morning (getting me the 1st ticket) and thus *wouldn't* have been parked
outside the post office when i was (thus getting the 2nd)! ;->

While i'm here rambling on about sod all here's a non-orbital query. (i still
can't help but feel guilty about non orbital posts). I've been sat nursing my
hangover, listning to Earthling's Radar today. And trying to work out some of
the lyrics. There's one line which is really bugging me, can anybody put my mind
at rest (i wont sleep tonight!)? The song Nefisa, there a line which goes
"Spikey ....  .....  .... is the colour of ma dreads." What colour???!!!

Thats all.

Rich


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: White flag......
Date: 31 Jan 1996   17:28:08  +0100

    =20
     Some of you may have missed or not yet recieved one of my subsequent=20
     messages regarding the content and purpose of the mailing list, so I'd=
=20
     just like to put my case clearly and hopefully end this thread.
    =20
     I didn't actually mean that the list is ONLY for Orbital related=20
     issues, my choice of words was pretty lousy due to my mood (induced by=
=20
     the one thing we DO all seem to agree on - chain eMails).=20
    =20
     Nor was I trying to "protect" the female sex from the big, bad world -=
=20
     it was a shame it was taken that way (sorry SexiSabi - maybe I'll mail=
=20
     you one to apologise !).=20
    =20
     Let's have variety by all means - by any colour, gender (sorry SB - th=
anks=20
     for the mail) or nationality.
    =20
     Well, that's enough humble pie for now - it can sure make you feel sma=
ll on=20
     this list somedays !!=20
    =20
     [e-mail]
    =20
     :-) or :-(=20
    =20
     Your choice !


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From: Norris P A D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Gabber?
Date: 31 Jan 1996 19:18:13 GMT


>whats does gabber mean btw?

Gabbber or Gabba (don't ask me why there are two spellings) is a form of really hard, fast (200+ bpm is not uncommon) trancey muzak.  It's played loads in Amsterdam clubs.

There, hope that helps.

Tinman.


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From: Norris P A D <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tribal Gathering
Date: 31 Jan 1996 19:25:08 GMT

As far as I know the TG this year is gonna be held in Oxford (Moor Park?, please correct me if I'm wrong).  According to unconfirmed reports it's supposed to last for 20 hours!, tickets will be around 28 quid depending on the line up (which I don't know).  Anyone else know anything about it?.

Regards,

Tinman.


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From: "Dire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Daft Punk (was: Re: REMIXES/the girl with the sun in her head)
Date: 03 Jan 1996 08:58:15 +0100



Haye!

>> The Prodigy, Crush, Daft Punk, Faithless, Garbage, Underworld...Have
>
>I don't want to start a big Daft Punk bashing session-but I don't think
>that any serious artist would remix them.  Orbital have always seemed
like
>they take their music pretty seriously, and Daft Punk....well....


HALELUJAH, brother! Finaly, somebody who thinks the king isn't wearing ant
clothes!
Well, Daft Punk used to have some pretty hard techno a few years ago, maybe
3 year, I can't remember. Realy good, but that was the time they only
released maxi's. In this first album, I was seriously disapointed. It's not
that the album isn't good, but it sounds like disco/funk. And it'½s good,
if you hear it with disco/funk ears... ;-) But it doesn't have the techno
drive that it used to have.


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From: "Dire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) OT>->ultronic
Date: 03 Jan 1996 16:09:55 +0100



Haye!

>> > This topic has come up here before as "What is techno?"
>> > For Ultronic, it is a sub-category for music where other labels
>> don't
>> > quite fit, but the artists still use electronic music.
>
>without trying to start a long and ugly thead....in the strict sense
>"techno" is the term derived by juan atkins (supposedly) that refers to
>the music he, derrick may. and kevin sauderson were producing in detroit
>in the mid to late 80's.  some people still only refer to techno as the
>detroit variety of generally minimal dance music. (see the 313 list)
>obviously the term is used for a much greater variety of music by most
>people.
>please, please, please do not write back with messages saying that,
>"music is music and it doesnt matter what you call it, categorization is
>bad....etc."  i am merely trying to answer her question with the most
>accurate info. i have obtained in the last 10 years of reading articles
>and listening to electronic music,  i am not endorsing categories or
>anything else for that matter.

Well, this covers most of the basic history. Indeed, Techno has some
diferences from other electronic music styles, mainly because of the black
funky music influence. Idealy, it should be a manifestation of black
culture turned towards the future, but the concepts have changed since
techno has overpassed the age/race/gender/language barriers. I too recomend
the 313-mailing-list at www.hyperreal.com for more info on Techno, Detroit
branch.

Regarding to the term "electronica", I use it to encompass most of the
music that is made by machines and has some "dance" influence. For exemple,
I would categorize The Orb as electronica but not The Young Gods or Nine
Inch Nails, even if they use mostly machines in their music. Care to
educate?


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From: "Dire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: (orbital) YIKES!!
Date: 04 Jan 1996 23:50:17 +0100



Haye!

>HiYa.
>I took it as a flame.  I took it personally.  And why would I tell him
>we worked it out, when we didn't??  seriously... I hate flames,
>especially when I don't deserve them... and now you tell me to tell Ian
>everything's fine??  I don't think so.
>
>--Aimee--
>
>>>Okay, okay he's really humorous. But, you also have to tell him that I
>was kidding. I don't care what you wear or how you talk. I work with
>attorneys all day and can't stand how they talk. I would much prefer
>less pretention in my life. Aimee, tell him I was kidding and we
>worked it out. I do not judge.<<

C'mon guys! This is getting *realy* anoying!!! First of all, everybody's
entitled to be diferent from each other. If we were all the same, it would
be the same thing as having only one person in the world... More, I don't
think he was making a direct attack to Amiee, he was just expressing an
opinion (well, I'm not a big fan of the "Like, dude" kind of thing, but
hey! I can live with it... ;-)   ) And don't you all know how sometimes is
so dificult to say exactly what we want in e-mail?!? If after all this you
still want to keep blind and think each other is the worst human being in
the world because of a little piece of e-mail, even without knowing each
other and not trying to give a *sincere* second chance, please do so, but
KEEP IT IN PRIVATE!!! I think I speak not only for myself, but for many
other people in this list who think we don't need this kind of thing here.
Stop being so judgemental, and that goes for *everyone*! Your lives are
diferent, you SHOULD talk diferent, dress diferent, think diferent! And
about that age thing, if she didn't told how old she was, this would
probably have never heppened!!! Who was that guy who said something like
"Yes, I'm still very young, but that's a problem that usualy tends to
disapear as time goes by"?... ;-) Besides, I think It's quite good that we
have people from 15 to 36 here!!! It contributes with experience and new
vision! Damn it, could it be that I'm the only guy who sees this?!?!?!? I
don't hink so! More, I HOPE I'm not!

Sayonara!
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