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From: "Steven Carver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital)Bose speakers
Date: 01 Feb 2000 13:36:42 GMT


Now, has anyone here ever listened to a Bose system, and
>are they
>really THAT good?

My mum's got a Bose system with a big bass speaker in the middle of the room
(obviously not in the centre - that would be crazy) and two satellites, two
little speakers on each satellite. I think it sounds completely shit when
compared with my trusty old Pioneers at home. The Boses seem to boost all
the wrong frequencies; for example, instead of getting a nice thuddy sound
on the "four-to-the-floor" bass drum, you just seem to hear all of the
rumbling sounds beneath it, and if we ever played anything with a jungly
'sub-bass' sound in it then, Jesus, pity the people downstairs.
    Also, as it has three speakers, the person who set it up was forced to
plug the bass speaker into one of the two stereo speaker output sockets on
the back of the amp. Therefore, to add bass we had to turn up the left-hand
side on the balance knob.
    I don't whether all this would apply to modern amps, though - my mum has
got an amp that predates history, so that could have something to do with
it. Nevertheless, I would stick with a two speaker system - at least you
know where you are with them.

Steve
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From: "Andy Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) William Hartnell
Date: 01 Feb 2000 13:54:35 GMT



>I have another question... it's quite silly... I apologise in
>advance... but
>I'm dying to ask... are the Hartnoll brothers related to
>the actor William
>Hartnoll who once starred as ... wait for it... Dr Who?

No relation, I'm afraid...and the spelling of their surnames
differs by one letter! If only it were true, however...it would
explain so much!

Andy Jackson



: a n d y * j a c k s o n :
: l i b r a r i a n :
: s c h o o l * o f * n u r s i n g * a n d * m i d w i f e r y :
: u n i v e r s i t y * o f * d u n d e e :
: d u n d e e * d d 1 * 9 s y :
: t e l * 0 1 3 8 2 * 6 3 2 0 1 2 :


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From: Michael Brunet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) beached
Date: 01 Feb 2000 15:26:44 -0500


Howdy All!

This might not be news to many of you, but for the rest of us who haven't
yet heard "beached", here's your chance
http://www.previewtunes.com/default.asp?SongId=280

All I ask is that if someone can figure out the address of the actual
streaming sound file, please email it to me so that I can get a (albeit
lousy quality) downloaded copy of the track.

Thanks. Have fun.

Mike



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From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Bose speakers
Date: 01 Feb 2000 14:37:06 -0800



I'd consider myself an audio enthusiast.. I'm no expert or anything.. so
take my
advice as you will.  I've built a couple sets of speakers (not kits.. but
from scratch,
including crossover) and am quite aware of what a *true* quality build /
design is.

You mention clarity.. and "sound spectrum coverage" (dynamics).  What I look
for in
speakers is accuracy.. how accurately the speaker reproduces music.  If you
ever get
to listen to music on a pair of Sennheiser HD600 headphones.. then you will
know
what accuracy is (about as close as it gets people!).  The second thing I
look for
is sound stage / focus.  Listen to a good live recording of a classical
guitarist and
close your eyes.  You should be able to "see" the musician on the stage in
front of you.
With cheap speakers you will not be able to pin point the source location of
the music.
Thirdly, dynamics come into play.  Some speakers reproduce certain ranges of
the audio
spectrum well.. while they fail in others... sometimes leaving ranges out
all together.
Most medium to high end mains handle 60Hz+.  A subwoofer typically handles
anything
below that.  This is typically because putting the sub (a 12" or lager) in
the same cabinet
as the rest of the drivers can cause distortion.  And putting the sub in the
box makes it
10x larger :).

I just went through this thing with my father.  He's 47 and lived in the
days when
Cerwin Vega and Bose were thought to be really kick ass speakers.  He
decided that he
wanted to buy a new set of speakers so he could do surround sound.  He
started looking
at these Cerwin Vegas that were something like $300 a piece ($600 a pair).
Well.. I've
rewired/modded several pair of Cerwin Vega (and Bose) and they're absolute
shit inside.
The drivers are half rate, crossovers are almost always single order..
crossover components
are as cheap as they come.. Etc. Etc.  Anyways.. it took me forever to
convince pop that
these speakers are not worth the money.  They're extremely overpriced..
you're really paying
for a name more then anything.  Good frat boy speakers... shitty for anyone
else.

Anyways.. I talked him into Paradigm.  They're Canadian built.. and well
built at that.
Almost all high end speaker systems are designed to work with a sub now..
Paradigms require
a sub to get below 60Hz.  He bought a six piece surround system for under
$900.
(http://www.paradigm.ca)

Paradigm has won numerous awards in value vs. performance type categories.
They're really
worth the money.  No, I don't work for Paradigm :P .

We got it home and disconnected his old Cerwin Vegas (circa 1974), hooked
the new speakers
up to the Yamaha receiver he had just bought.  After getting the sub dialed
in, we put the
new Bruce Hornsby album in...  Pop raised his eyebrows and said "So that's
what music is
supposed to sound like!".  He was blown away.

Do your research.. there are many people on the net that will support what
I've told you
here.  Check out http://www.audioreview.com.  It's a great site to do
research for stuff
like this.

Ian





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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Bose speakers
Date: 02 Feb 2000 03:02:02 +0000


Ian Mahuron wrote:
>
> We got it home and disconnected his old Cerwin Vegas (circa 1974), hooked
> the new speakers

Circa 1974?!  You're talking about 30-year-old speakers?  Weren't
8-tracks still popular in those days?  My parents used to have a pair of
Bose speakers (more recently than 1974), and they were -the- shit, not
shit.

Ah well, I'm not speaker expert either.  My advise is to go to a music
or electronics store and listen to the different speakers yourself.
Don't listen to anything else, hype or otherwise.  It only matters what
it sounds like to -you-, not anybody else.

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From: "Henry Cooke" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) beached
Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:41:14 -0600



> All I ask is that if someone can figure out the address of the actual
> streaming sound file, please email it to me so that I can get a (albeit
> lousy quality) downloaded copy of the track.

As far as I can work out, it's
http://tm.intervu.net/s2/warnermg/intervumms/orbital-beached56.asx (for the
56k version)
And what a blinder it is too... if only the sprout-faced ladyboy wasn't
talking pretentious Hollywood schmaltz over the top of it :)

Cheers,
Henry





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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Tall Paul - to dj or not to dj?
Date: 02 Feb 2000 03:09:35 +0000


morpheus wrote:
>
> I saw Tall Paul spin in a club in Vancouver, Canada over the week end and I
> have to say that I was very disappointed.  He brought a little side kick
> along that spun the majority of his set for him.  Paul spun for maybe like
> 20-30 minutes of his 2 hour set.  Not only that, he played a lot of trance
> that has been played on every trance mix cd out there.  And all of his house
> was rather boring minimalistic four four beats.  I have his cd Duty Free,
> and it's not that bad.  So, I was wondering, do big DJ's usually have
> someone else spin for them, and is Tall Paul usually good?  I have seen Carl
> Cox, Seb Fontaine, Anne Savage, Lisa Lashes, John Kelley, Omar Santana, Tony
> Faline, and DJ Laidback, just to name a few, and they all spun their own
> sets.  Just curious.

Bah...never really understood this search for good DJs.  There's plenty
of good DJs right in front of you.  Every city has them.  (Well, most
cities; not every one is a raver's spot.)  Over here in Louisville, we
have several: Havok, DJ Eastwood, DJ Booth (seems like he's in every
rave :), to name a few.  We all make fun of Benman's excessive talking
and lame house music.  (If I had a penny for every time he says
"Louie-ville", I'd have a free E pill by the end of his set.)

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From: "Christopher Park" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Beached
Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:26:52 -0500


I'm not normally a "me too" type fellow, but I just listened to beached and
I almost turned it off because it started out just so cheesy with the star
of Teen Bop magazine reciting wanna-be beat-nik poetry over what turned out
to be a good song - I just mean the mood of the rest of the song was a happy
little trip in a boat - Then "Mr. hey I'm so cool because I stared in a
really stupid Hollywood remake of a great play" starts talking again and I
felt like I just got ship wrecked on Gilligan's Island.  I know this song is
for a sound track so it has to relate to the movie, so I just hope they do
like they did with The Saint - The short little ditty they did for the movie
was OK but the long version (The Sinner) was quite excelent.  If anyone has
heard the longer version of this song please tell me they let Titanic Boy's
lyric drown and focus on the music.

Thanks
Chris (I still Haven't Seen Titanic!!!) Park



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From: "juno ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) OT: Looking For A Piece Of The Old-School
Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:44:03 GMT


Sorry for the OT post :-)

I'm desperately looking for MP3's of Telex and Yellow Magic Orchestra, plus
anything from Vapourspace.

I'd buy the CD's but I'm broke (yes, I do respect copyrights as a fellow
musician).

Hey Marc; Did your FTP go down ? I can't get in. Change the address ?

- Josh
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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Beached
Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:12:23 GMT


>was OK but the long version (The Sinner) was quite excelent.  If anyone has
>heard the longer version of this song please tell me they let Titanic Boy's
>lyric drown and focus on the music.

Still haven't seen Titanic myself and never will.. :) But I'll see The Beach
however simply because Alex Garland's book is so good, and if anything is
retained, John Holme would be the man to be able to do so with his
script-writing.

Anyway, to your question, yes, in the long version I've got they fade Mr.
Ponce's voice after 10-15 seconds and then you're on your own with P&P's
magic for the next 7 minutes or so, until you know who is brought back for
the remaining 10-15 seconds... So, alot of this good track is preserved
quite well on the long version.

Trym

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From: ".." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) to J.Van
Date: 02 Feb 2000 02:53:50 -0800


Because i can't remember your email addie here is something i found of
interest to you.

http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/16593717




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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Beached
Date: 02 Feb 2000 11:50:06 -0500


Does anyone else think that "Doctor, Lookout" (as I believe it's called), sounds
incredibly like video-game music?  Now, I love video game music, but it's not
usually the sort of thing Orbital produce.  Just wondering what everyone else
thought.

>  you're on your own with P&P's
> magic for the next 7 minutes or so

                                                                        Marc
Sawaya



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Re: Vintage Audiostuff (was: bose speakers)
Date: 03 Feb 2000 01:25:51 +0000


Brendan wrote:
>
> Circa 1974?!  You're talking about 30-year-old speakers?  Weren't
> 8-tracks still popular in those days?  My parents used to have a pair of
> Bose speakers (more recently than 1974), and they were -the- shit, not
> shit.
>

Well, as for old Audio-equipment i think i need to support Brendan
there: old != bad ...

We have 2 70s Marantz Amps in this household, and they have worked
flawlessly for about 25 years now (hell, they're older than me! 8)
except for one worn-out switch on one and a micro-lightbulb that blew
on the other once!)
The quality is excellent from what i hear (have some mid-range Magnat
Vector-2s on mine!) but then again i'm not much of an expert, but a
few friends of mine are real audiophiles, and they were very
surprised to see these things and said they have a pretty high
reputation within the audiophiles (well, atleast here in germany!
8)...
I really don't wanna move this discussion to amps now, i just felt
like pointing out the fact that old stuff can sometimes be GOOD or
even BETTER than what's built today! 8)

DeeKay

P.S.:
> Don't listen to anything else, hype or otherwise.  It only
> matters what it sounds like to -you-, not anybody else.

Brendan, can i quote you on that last sentence during the next
categorization-discussion! >;-DDDDD

locker bleiben! 8)))



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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Vintage Audiostuff (was: bose speakers)
Date: 02 Feb 2000 21:11:09 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Well, as for old Audio-equipment i think i need to support Brendan
> there: old != bad ...

Actually, I kinda WAS saying old = bad.  But, oh well.

> > Don't listen to anything else, hype or otherwise.  It only
> > matters what it sounds like to -you-, not anybody else.
>
> Brendan, can i quote you on that last sentence during the next
> categorization-discussion! >;-DDDDD

No :)

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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) shannon
Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:11:28 -0800 (PST)


Hey everybody:
this is for shannon campbell only!
shannon:
hey, i tried to send you a msg but it bounced back.  can you give me you
address.
thanks.
MP
Thanks everyone.

=====
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From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Crash and Carry
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:54:52 +0100


Does anybody have this track from the Shopping motion picture soundtrack?
Is it any good? Is it a remix of another track or completely new to the movie?

I shouldn't ask because it's dead illegal and all that, but does anybody have an MP3?


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From: "Aaron Brown" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Vintage Audiostuff (was: bose speakers)
Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:24:58 -0000


Sorry to continue this OT thread, but I've got to agree; I had an old Sony
amp that I inherited from my dad that's 20+ years old.  I only replaced it
this year because there was a dry joint in the volume pot.  As a reference
point, my dad's new Aiwa died in just over a year...

ez


> I really don't wanna move this discussion to amps now, i just felt
> like pointing out the fact that old stuff can sometimes be GOOD or
> even BETTER than what's built today! 8)


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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Crash and Carry
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:47:18 GMT



>
>Does anybody have this track from the Shopping motion picture soundtrack?
>Is it any good? Is it a remix of another track or completely new to the
>movie?

It's a track from the 1994 album Snivilisation, I would have thought.

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From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Crash and Carry
Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:57:47 +0100


Thanks. I should have spotted it was from Sniv. I think it maybe an edited version of the album track.
I was just trying to work out what tracks I still need from the Loopz and Lazlo Nibble discographies.
Does anyone have the compilation 'Help! (A Project War Child Fundraiser)' with a special
version of Adnans on it? Any comment about how different it is to the Insides version?
Other things that are intriguing are the compilation 'Foundations - Up From The Streets' with the
track 'The Tranquiliser Busy Tranquilising [Walk Now...]' and the compilation 'Counterforce' with
'The Box (vapourspace mix)'.
Orbital have a hell of a lot of rare and hard to find releases. I've already burnt 10 CD's of non-album
tracks and there's still quite a bit I don't have. Maybe we should petition Orbital for a big box set
of all this stuff!

> -----Original Message-----
> From:    Digger [SMTP:[e-mail]]
>
> Crash and Carry is a track that appears on Orbital's 3rd album (I'm pretty
> sure) "Snivilization."  I'm not sure, but they may have re-cut/re-mixed it
> for the movie soundtrack.  Never the less it's a good tune.  It's among my
> favorites.  I'd reccommend getting it.  I don't have the MP3...just the
> album :-)
>


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From: "kulsoom a" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Crash and Carry
Date: 03 Feb 2000 08:48:51 PST




>
>Thanks. I should have spotted it was from Sniv. I think it maybe an edited
>version of the album track.
>I was just trying to work out what tracks I still need from the Loopz and
>Lazlo Nibble discographies.
>Does anyone have the compilation 'Help! (A Project War Child Fundraiser)'
>with a special
>version of Adnans on it? Any comment about how different it is to the
>Insides version?

I have that HELP! for Bosnia album.  its a pretty good compilation and also
has Airbag by Radiohead (an awesome song)
the version of Adnan is different from insides.. i think its a little more
delicate.. I like it better than the insides version personally because I
think its more touching.. but that is just me.
I got it from BMG and they have that 12 free cd thing if you buy one..
www.bmgmusicservice.com (its an ok deal.. with all the postage.. i think its
comes out to like 5 bucks a CD)
IF you find out about the other versions of songs listed below please let me
know.

>Other things that are intriguing are the compilation 'Foundations - Up From
>The Streets' with the
>track 'The Tranquiliser Busy Tranquilising [Walk Now...]' and the
>compilation 'Counterforce' with
>'The Box (vapourspace mix)'.
>Orbital have a hell of a lot of rare and hard to find releases. I've
>already burnt 10 CD's of non-album
>tracks and there's still quite a bit I don't have. Maybe we should petition
>Orbital for a big box set
>of all this stuff!
>
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Vintage synth sampler & FBS...
Date: 03 Feb 2000 19:33:58 +0000


I just got a smapler called "The best of Moog, electronic pop hits
from the 60s and 70s" which contains some of the very first synth
music, predominantly from 68-70 (The time when Kraftwerk was prolly
still running around the xmas tree with a flute! 8) and it definately
kicks ass! I mean you can really sense the fun these people had with
their new toy called Moog, which to my knowledge must've been the
first commercially available synth ever... I definately recommend
checking this out... The musical style varies from Hot Butter's
Popcorn (which everybody should know!) to 70s pornfilm or TV series
music (hell, some of it even has Ba-ba-baah vocals! 8) Don't expect
any 'serious' synth stuff though like Kraftwerk or Jean Michel Jarre,
it's definately more on the fun/experimental/funky/jazzy side!

What's more thie sampler contains a remix of Fatboy Slim (of the
track E.V.R.!) which is really good so this one's for all the FBS
fans on the list...

DeeKay


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From: "Optik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Rare 12" ?
Date: 03 Feb 2000 22:09:06 +0000


Hi,

Is the following vinyl rare?

orbital - satan (rhyme and reason remix) / chime (original mix) / lc2
(outer limits mix) - cat.no. FXR 149

orbital - chime the remixes (jzj oh ya mix - jzj bacardi mix) -
cat.no.FXR 135

I am going to pay =A310 (UK Pounds) each.

Is this a bargain or are they available in your local woolworths
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Subject: (orbital) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:47:44 -0600
Date: 03 Feb 2000 20:32:20 -0700


Reece:
I am trying to get a hold of you...can you email me back?
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Subject: (orbital) Lots to say - Lots of replies - Lots and Lots :)
Date: 04 Feb 2000 08:33:49 -0000


All,

1) thanx for the birthday wishes etc - i wish i could buy you all a beer :)
2) Orbital live cd (limited) was delayed because Orbital was not happy with
one of the tracks - i spoke to London Records only 2 days ago and they
stated that it will be pressed after the "Beached" (previously "Beached
Out") single is released. single info on the site
3) Paul is evidentally doing another Dj thing at Mass in Brixton - i will
confirm this soon - but more info is on the site. I will be going for sure
:)
4) Last but not least - i am just about to purchase some dj stuff -
something i have always been interested in. Anyone who wishes to pass on
some tips or hardware to avoid then please email me at
[e-mail]
5) #ORBITAL will have W back - thanx to all that responded. Now we need to
get people in the channel and talking. Go to the Undernet and channel
#ORBITAL.
6) Anyone know a script that will allow webbrowsers to connect to a
specified IRC server and channel ? - please let me know. Its the only thing
that is stopping me getting a certian Mr H to do a live chat. Its what i
want , its what i need....email me at [e-mail] on this one :)
7) Thats enough

Thats all.....
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From: "juno ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) OT: Moog Sampler/Kraftwerk
Date: 04 Feb 2000 09:00:59 GMT


>>>>I just got a sampler called "The best of Moog, electronic pop hits
from the 60s and 70s" which contains some of the very first synth
music, predominantly from 68-70 (The time when Kraftwerk was prolly
still running around the xmas tree with a flute!

Actually, Kraftwerk was just getting started around this time. Ralf and
Florian were in the short-lived group "Organisation" prior to recording
Kraftwerk's self-titled debut LP in 1970 (which features "Ruckzuck" of
Newton's Apple fame).

The flutes and guitars didn't get ditched until the Radio Activity album.
:-)

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From: "Ender Wright" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) live mp3's
Date: 04 Feb 2000 09:33:15 EST


the samples on loopz just aren't enough, didn't someone have them on an ftp
site before... I just need the CHime after Dr. Who... er something

help

-Ender

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Lots to say - Lots of replies - Lots and Lots :)
Date: 04 Feb 2000 12:06:52 +0000


"Price, Steve A" wrote:
>
> 6) Anyone know a script that will allow webbrowsers to connect to a
> specified IRC server and channel ? - please let me know. Its the only thing
> that is stopping me getting a certian Mr H to do a live chat. Its what i
> want , its what i need....email me at [e-mail] on this one :)

CGI Joe, at your service.  I don't know of one offhand, but there might
be a Java one somewhere.  (However, I imagine that they want you to pay
for it.)  Otherwise, I could write one that interfaces with a bot
script.  Hey, maybe I could make my HTMLSpeak code useful...

The only problem is whether your web hosting service (WHS) allows IRC
clients.  I hope you checked about that.  I know that mine doesn't like
BitchX running.  Also, do you have access to a cron daemon, or root
access to your server?

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) live mp3's
Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:46:09 -0500


Once again, my ftp site has been _very_ lonely lately, partly because I've been
having problems with it, but also because I haven't reminded anyone in a
while.  The address is apocrypha.res.wpi.net, and that should work.  User/pass
are now changed to 'orbital' (minus the quotes).  I have a crapload of Orbital
up, but I lost some of the nice bootlegs I had (Austin and V99).  Shannon,
don't worry, I didn't rip the cd you sent me = ).  I got the Worcester show,
but the quality isn't too great.  If anyone wants to share some with everyone
else, there's an upload folder in the main directory, and they'll get put into
the Orbital/Bootlegs&Remixes folder.  I hope I get some more traffic again.

-Marc Sawaya

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> the samples on loopz just aren't enough, didn't someone have them on an ftp
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) bose speakers the end
Date: 04 Feb 2000 15:56:49 EST


Bose is just okay for one thing, really.  That's for listening to DVDs and
LaserDiscs as a home theater set-up.  They're just satellite speakers with a
mid-sized woofer.  The woofer is powerful but it's muudy as well.  This is
all well and good for cranking up a good movie but for serious listening,
forget it.  There is no way to position these little things for setting up a
sweet spot, an equidistant listening area that I use for mixdown of
recordings.  I also consider that type of speaker placement ideal for serious
stereo image listening.  I only have two ears so I don't buy into this
surround-sound crap.  Its fine for theaters but all of my records and CDs
were mixed down for 2 eared listening.  So - that's my 2 cents.  Bose cannot
be considered as a "serious" choice.
P.S.  The Bose speakers were fine for listening to "Middle of Nowhere" while
I painted the living room last week, but I would hardly call that "serious"
listening...


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Subject: (orbital) Worried...
Date: 05 Feb 2000 03:03:23 +0000


Dudes, i can almost sense gazillions of immature annoying teenie
Leonardo DiCapitated fans joining this list and (even worse) getting
into Orbital!.. Don't get me wrong, i think it would be a good change
to the pop-shit they're usually conditioned with, but i could
definately do without shelley, 15 years from Chicago posting "Leo is
just so cuuuuuuuute! *huggies* *kisses* *whatever*" to the list or
the Harties (again! >:-) showing up in Top of the pops and Teenpop
magazines!...

Please.. If there's a god: don't let orbital go mainstream, and if it
has to be, don't let them go down in music history as Leonardo
DiCopulate 'side orders'!....

Truly worried and confused because of this move,
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Subject: Re: (orbital) bose speakers the end
Date: 05 Feb 2000 02:48:28 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I only have two ears so I don't buy into this surround-sound crap.

Hehehe...that's your choice, but like it or not, you have depth
perception with your ears.  You know the difference between a sound
behind you and a sound in front of you.  Trust me...surround-sound
sounds a whole lot better than stereo.

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From: demmietrius anthony cimpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) new to the list
Date: 05 Feb 2000 01:15:56 -0600 (CST)


    Hey guys and gals, my name is Demmie and I've been an orbital fan
for nine years now.  I am originally from SanFrancisco, but I am currently
attending the University of Illinois.  Orbital is my favorite by far, and
it's exciting to know that there are other avid fans out there who
appreciate quality electronic music.  My orbital collection spans 34 CDs
and hopefully I can increase my stash. Also look forward to meeting the
rest of you.  Well, there's my introduction.   PEACE!!!


        -Demmie


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Subject: Re:  Re: (orbital) bose speakers the end
Date: 05 Feb 2000 15:49:42 EST



In a message dated 2/4/0 6:49:24 PM, you wrote:

<<Hehehe...that's your choice>>

If you read the letter, Brendan, I mentioned that surround-sound was fine for
watching movies.  Believe me, I like to tweak my ears with any kind of device
that adds to the sensation of "being there".  I use an outboard device, a
Roland Dimension-D, as it's known, for a lot of mixes that I do.  That little
device seriously fucks with depth perception and its great fun to use.  P&P
have mixed down using a different kind of sound enhancement encoding called
B.A.S.E., that does virtually the same thing.  Pull out some remixes of "Are
We Here" or "Times Fly."  What I was getting at was that I, personally would
not use any surround-sound encoding for mixes of songs that would eventually
make it to CD or vinyl, beyond the minimal tweaking with the Dimension-D
(sadly no longer manufactured).  I've used a lot of 5-channel Dolby surround
for mix down of movie soundtracks our company has produced, and it seems to
be the standard for that kind of thing.
 This all leaves me with a vague sense of deja-vu.  I seem to remember
something in the seventies.........called "quad"........*gasp*


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Subject: Re: (orbital) surround sound
Date: 05 Feb 2000 16:17:44 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> If you read the letter, Brendan, I mentioned that surround-sound was fine
> for watching movies.  Believe me, I like to tweak my ears with any kind of
> device that adds to the sensation of "being there".  I use an outboard
> device, a Roland Dimension-D, as it's known, for a lot of mixes that I do.
> That little device seriously fucks with depth perception and its great fun
> to use.  P&P have mixed down using a different kind of sound enhancement
> encoding called B.A.S.E., that does virtually the same thing.  Pull out some
> remixes of "Are We Here" or "Times Fly."  What I was getting at was that I,
> personally would not use any surround-sound encoding for mixes of songs that
> would eventually make it to CD or vinyl, beyond the minimal tweaking with
> the Dimension-D (sadly no longer manufactured).  I've used a lot of
> 5-channel Dolby surround for mix down of movie soundtracks our company has
> produced, and it seems to be the standard for that kind of thing.

Oh, I thought you were ditching surround sound in general.  Personally,
I don't believe in encoding music for surround sound because everybody
has their different preference on how they hear music (esp. with the
differences between headphones and a full speaker system).  I like my
studio setting for techno and other instrumental music, and the sim
surround for vocal stuff.  (This is because the vocals get drowned out
in the studio setting, but the studio setting has a better "global"
effect otherwise.)

But, with movies, you actually want to hear sound effects in the right
places.  Those, IMO, should have surround encoding.

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Radio Boadcasts
Date: 05 Feb 2000 16:39:44 -0500


Well, thanks to Shannon, I now have 2 Orbital radio broadcasts on my ftp
site, one from XFM with an interview with Paul and then Way Out, SPE,
and Impact live, and then the John Peel broadcast with KWTR, An
Fhomhair, The Box, Nothing Left (Schizoid, I believe), and Style/Bigpipe
Style live.  Great stuff, great quality.  Spread the wealth.  If you
didn't get it last time, the ftp is apocrypha.res.wpi.net, user/pass:
orbital.  Have fun!


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Subject: Re: (orbital) new to the list
Date: 05 Feb 2000 21:19:25 -0500


Er, how do you have 34 Orbital cds?  Are they all official releases??  I
thought my 10 was something to be moderately proud of! = )

-Marc Sawaya

demmietrius anthony cimpson wrote:

> appreciate quality electronic music.  My orbital collection spans 34 CDs
> and hopefully I can increase my stash.



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Subject: (orbital) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?OT-=20=B5-ZIQ,=20Luke=20Vibert=20and=20BJ=20Cole?=
Date: 05 Feb 2000 23:01:54 EST




http://www.clubplanet.com/cpword/features/200001/uziq/

> It's official! =B5-ZIQ will be teaming up with Luke Vibert + BJ Cole for l=
ive=20
tour
starting in February. Look for free Astralwerks giveaways at every show.
Here are the
dates:=20
>=20
> Wed. Feb. 2, 2000: Bowery Ballroom - New York, NY=20
> Thu. Feb 3, 2000: Lees Palace - Toronto, Ontario=20
> Fri. Feb. 4, 2000: Shelter - Detroit, MI=20
> Sat. Feb. 5, 2000: Metro - Chicago, IL=20
> Sun. Feb 6, 2000: Ascot Room - Minneapolis, MN=20
> Wed. Feb. 9, 2000: Lola's - Portland, OR=20
> Thu. Feb 10, 2000: El Ray - Los Angeles, CA=20
> Fri. Feb. 11, 2000: Bimbo's - San Francisco, CA=20
> Sat. Feb. 12, 2000: Club I-SPY - Seattle, WA=20


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Subject: Re: (orbital) new to the list
Date: 06 Feb 2000 01:52:18 -0600 (CST)


    I'll post a tracklisting tommorrow.  I don't really have the time
right now, since I work all weekend.  But just so you all know, I've had
the pleasure of obtaining some juicy tidbits not available anywhere such
as 4 live orbital concerts... two from 1999, two from 1996, and two from
1993... all double discs, and of course, bootlegs ;-)...  many out of
print singles as well such as halcyon, are we here?, chime, omen,
radiccio, lush, the kinetic CD with the Golden Girls Orbital mix, and a
few more...  I'll keep you posted.  (by the way, have 2 copies of the
halcyon single and willing to part with one for the right price. ;-)

            PEACE
                                   -Demmie

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On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 [e-mail] wrote:

> Hi there! 8)
> Welcome to the list!...
> Wow, nine years and you haven't made it to this list till now!.. How
> did that happen then? 8)
> 34 CDs is quite an impressive collection, do you care to send a
> tracklisting so we could maybe trade a little? 8)
> I am mainly looking for the track by Global Method, Good Life
> (Orbital remix) and for bootlegs!...
>
> Best regards, DeeKay
>
> >
> >     Hey guys and gals, my name is Demmie and I've been an orbital fan
> > for nine years now.  I am originally from SanFrancisco, but I am currently
> > attending the University of Illinois.  Orbital is my favorite by far, and
> > it's exciting to know that there are other avid fans out there who
> > appreciate quality electronic music.  My orbital collection spans 34 CDs
> > and hopefully I can increase my stash. Also look forward to meeting the
> > rest of you.  Well, there's my introduction.   PEACE!!!
> >
> >
> >         -Demmie
> >
> >
>



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Subject: RE: (orbital) new to the list
Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:32:06 -0000


> alexandra palace 96/glastonbury 95 bootleg
> are we here? uk release
> are we here? us release
> are we here? cd collector
> austin 99 bootleg
> the axis boston 96 bootleg
> belfast/wasted uk release
> belfast/wasted uk release promo
> best of 99 russian bootleg
> boston axis 96 bootleg
> brixton 99 bootleg
> brown uk release
> chime uk release
> chimes for a new year bootleg
> digital ecstasy bootleg
> diversions uk release
> flux 99 bootleg
> glastonbury 94/leeds sound city 96 bootleg
> glastonbury 95 bootleg
> glastonbury 99 bootleg
> green uk release
> green us release
> halcyon us release
> in sides uk release
> in sides us release with 2nd cd
> live @ the sf civic auditorium bootleg
> live in birmingham 93 bootleg
> live in chicago 99 bootleg
> live in worcester 99 bootleg
> live in new orleans 96 bootleg
> live in new york bootleg
> live in seatlle 96 bootleg
> lush 3 uk release
> midnight/choice uk release fcd
> midnight/choice uk release liecd
> mutations uk release
> nothing left 1 uk release
> nothing left 2 uk release
> nothing left radio uk release promo
> omen uk release
> outsides bootleg
> pandoras box bootleg
> peel session uk release
> peel sessions 99 bootleg
> phoenix 97 bootleg
> radiccio uk release
> radiccio 2 german release
> radio 1 insides preveiw/mtv live bootleg
> san franciso 96 bootleg
> satan uk release fcd
> satan uk release liecd
> satan featuring kirk hammett us release
> satan featuring kirk hammett us release promo
> satan live one uk release
> satan live two uk release
> satan live three uk release
> snivilisation uk release
> style 1 uk release
> style 2 uk release
> style radio uk release promo
> the box uk release digipak
> the box uk release normal
> the box 4:12 us release promo
> the guide / guardian uk release gift
> the middle of nowhere uk release
> the middle of nowhere us release cdr promo
> the saint uk release
> the saint us release
> the saint us release promo
> times fly uk release
> train station bootleg
> trupak: 12 uk release promo
> tx: nothing bootleg
> v99 chelmsford bootleg


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From: "Arfie Mansfield" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) OT: Way Out West
Date: 06 Feb 2000 13:52:57 +0000


    Does anyone here know about Way Out West's next single and/or
album? Apparently they're coming out some time in February / April,
respectively, but I haven't heard anything recently.

            =-=Arfie=-=


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From: Chris <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) David Gray mp3
Date: 06 Feb 2000 14:54:25 +0000


Hi All,

Has anyone got an mp3 of the whole of the Orbital remix of David Gray's
Please Forgive Me? I've been looking for the CD but still can't find it.

Chris


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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Addendum
Date: 06 Feb 2000 13:08:11 -0500


Well, for those of you that already got the 'thingies' of my ftp site, I
hope you are deleting all of them after 24 hours if you don't own them,
right!  They probably won't be up much longer because of this thing
called the law, so grab them while you can.  Before Steve chews me out,
rather, because he has to.  Thanks for the interest!

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From: "Nick King" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Beached
Date: 06 Feb 2000 22:15:01 -0000


Yeah,

Got 'The Beach' soundtrack today... Orbital's "Beached" is *very* good... Do
not worry, Leonardo's vocals don't appear too much in the song - hopefully
they'll be edited out once the single is released.

Overall, not a bad album at all - New Order, Leftfield, Underworld, Asian
Dub Foundation, UNKLE (with Richard Ashcroft of The Verve), Blur, Moby,
Faithless, and Dario G.

I shall be playing this over and over again, especially 'Beached'.


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Beached
Date: 07 Feb 2000 01:44:52 +0000



> Got 'The Beach' soundtrack today... Orbital's "Beached" is *very* good... Do
> not worry, Leonardo's vocals don't appear too much in the song - hopefully
> they'll be edited out once the single is released.
>
They still appear too long!.. and the simple fact that it's
Leonardo disgusts me!..
I agree that it has certain cool things, e.g. the phased lead is
great!.. But other than Leodorko it has a few cheesy eurotrash techno
things that i am certainly not used to from Orbital like the
'staccato-beats' at 2:20 and the lead also is *somehow* eurotrashy
though cool...

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From: life kid <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) OT- =?ISO-8859-1?B?tQ==?=-ZIQ, Luke Vibert and BJ
Date: 06 Feb 2000 19:38:24 -0600


just wanted to say that the metro show was awesome. i was pleasantly
surprised by the cole/vibert combination. and mu-ziq put on an incredibly
show. too bad there was no air conditioning, and the crowd wasn't really
into it. although, i'm always surprised by the fact that there are more and
more intelligent, beautiful women who are into this music. that can dance, i
might add. it gives me hope. laterz.

--
perez : len
email : [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: (orbital) OT- =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5=2DZIQ?=, Luke Vibert and BJCole
Date: 07 Feb 2000 02:33:27 +0000


life kid wrote:
>
> just wanted to say that the metro show was awesome. i was pleasantly
> surprised by the cole/vibert combination. and mu-ziq put on an incredibly
> show. too bad there was no air conditioning, and the crowd wasn't really
> into it. although, i'm always surprised by the fact that there are more and
> more intelligent, beautiful women who are into this music. that can dance, i
> might add. it gives me hope. laterz.

True, but it's damn hard to find one of beautiful women single :P

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From: Oleg Rekutin <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re[2]: (orbital) Beached
Date: 06 Feb 2000 22:11:38 -0500


Well, here's my opinion on Beached.

I like it. Leonardo is certainly very annoying, but it doesn't disgust
me too much. I just don't care. But just the fact of having his voice
over the song for so *long* is annoying.

Besides that, I really like the lead. It is definitely electronic, yet
you can see that Orbital made it sound "old", like a 40s accordion sorta
sound. I'm not sure, but it had that oldie feel anyway (like on some of
them old records). I doesn't sound plastic at all, nor does it have the
videogame feel (C64 square wave sorta feel). I think this is rather tough
to achieve.

The actual melody sounds in certain parts like, again, a 40s music piece
of sorts. I have a hard time describing this. At any rate, at one point,
the lead melody touches the cheesy side when it especially sounds "old
style" like that.

But it's ok. It's an interesting, good sounding piece with zero
eurotrash in it. I don't hear any eurotrash influences at all. All I
hear is IDM plus old 40s records influences.

Marc Sawaya said the song sounded like videogame music. I don't agree
with that either, because not only the sound doesn't cut it to be
classified as "videogame music", but also the melody doesn't approach
the typical cheesiness of your average console game music tune.

In other words, I like it. It's something different, but I like it.


Just my personal opinion,

Oleg Rekutin
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(btw, this is my first post to the list after over a half a year of
lurking)


Sunday, February 06, 2000, 8:44:52 PM, DeeKay wrote:

>> Got 'The Beach' soundtrack today... Orbital's "Beached" is *very* good... Do
>> not worry, Leonardo's vocals don't appear too much in the song - hopefully
>> they'll be edited out once the single is released.
>>
dmdd> They still appear too long!.. and the simple fact that it's
dmdd> Leonardo disgusts me!..
dmdd> I agree that it has certain cool things, e.g. the phased lead is
dmdd> great!.. But other than Leodorko it has a few cheesy eurotrash techno
dmdd> things that i am certainly not used to from Orbital like the
dmdd> 'staccato-beats' at 2:20 and the lead also is *somehow* eurotrashy
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Subject: Re: (orbital) OT- =?ISO-8859-1?B?tQ==?=-ZIQ, Luke Vibert and
Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:13:31 -0600


on 2/6/00 8:33 PM, Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper mumbled:

> life kid wrote:
>>
>> just wanted to say that the metro show was awesome. i was pleasantly
>> surprised by the cole/vibert combination. and mu-ziq put on an incredibly
>> show. too bad there was no air conditioning, and the crowd wasn't really
>> into it. although, i'm always surprised by the fact that there are more and
>> more intelligent, beautiful women who are into this music. that can dance, i
>> might add. it gives me hope. laterz.
>
> True, but it's damn hard to find one of beautiful women single :P

unfortunately, you're right. met one at the concert, boyfriend wasn't even
dancing with her, bastard. i mean, if you're going to bring your lady to a
concert that she's into, dance with her! even if you're not into the music,
as long as you're sharing that experience with her, right? but at least
there's still the fact that those women are out there. laterz.

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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5-ZIQ=2C_Luke_Vibert_andBJCole_in_Seattle?=
Date: 07 Feb 2000 02:27:16 -0800


Hey,

I have a question for anyone in Seattle,  I'm assuming that their is an age
limit for the show at Club I-Spy, so I am wondering how strict they are with
ID checking?  I am in Vancouver, and this is the closest show, if only they
were playing Vancouver.  Also, directions to get there would be wicked.
thanx for any help.
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From: "kulsoom a" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (Orbital) way out West
Date: 07 Feb 2000 05:46:02 PST


>Rumor has it that they will release their second album sometime during the
>winter or spring.
>
> >    Does anyone here know about Way Out West's next single and/or
> >album? Apparently they're coming out some time in February / April,
> >respectively, but I haven't heard anything recently.
> >
> >            =-=Arfie=-=
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Subject: Re: (orbital) Beached
Date: 07 Feb 2000 14:52:55 -0000


Nick, what's the UNKLE track?  The one from the album (Lonely Soul)?  Or is
it a new one?

ez

> Overall, not a bad album at all - New Order, Leftfield, Underworld, Asian
> Dub Foundation, UNKLE (with Richard Ashcroft of The Verve), Blur, Moby,
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From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) -- Depression by numbers
Date: 07 Feb 2000 16:14:24 +0100



Sigh.

Is it me or does having to come to work everyday suck ass badly?

When's this beach single coming out? Give me hope and a reason to live someone.


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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) -- Depression by numbers
Date: 07 Feb 2000 11:07:18 -0500


Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt) wrote:
>
> Sigh.
>
> Is it me or does having to come to work everyday suck ass badly?
>
> When's this beach single coming out? Give me hope and a reason to live someone.

Remind me,
  It really sux!

It's like Science Friction
Like being in a Box
OOOOLAAAA! It's Monday.
        Sad But True ....

There's the theory of the Moebius, where time becomes a loop
work, home, work, home, work, homework

?Are We Here?
?Where's the Style?
    ?where's my Halcyon?
        ?Is there Nothing Left?

Life, is it REEEEALLY REEEEALLLLY ....
            Out There Somewhere?
                        way out
I'm in the Middle of Nowhere.
But not much of CHOICE is there?
Walk Now

I wish I could have more Impact,
            Be more Attached!

Instead I'm wasting my Quality Seconds

The only reason I'm alive is that I get to go to Miami in March...
Lush! Kein Trink Wasser, but I Wish I Had Duck feet

I'll be
   \|/
  --0-- The Guy With The Sun In His Head
   /|\

~~~~~~~~~~~~~Life's a "Beach"~~~~~~~~~:)

Philip, I guess you gotta
Know Where To Run ;)

Input Out.

    ShannON +ON +ON


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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) -- Depression by numbers
Date: 07 Feb 2000 11:39:18 EST


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thanks for the comic relief!

Actually, that was quite cool Shannon. :-) Yeah, the whole reason why I'm
able to drag my ass to work everyday is because they're flying me to Boca
Raton and Baltimore. Other than that, research research research! Oh, then
research your research! YAY! :-)

Let's get this list moving again like last summmer! Whad'ya say?

Alright, I saw Armand van Helden at Avalon in Boston last Friday, and I was
disappointed. It was like NY House to the extreme. How many times can you
play a song with "HOUSE MEWSIK!" repeated over and over! And no melody! What
the hell!? Oh well, Sasha's due to come through here in a few weeks, I'll be
fine then :-)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) OT: Just for info! 8)
Date: 07 Feb 2000 23:04:00 +0000


I just would like to announce my new email accounts,
[e-mail] and [e-mail] cause i think
they're just so cool! 8) Everyone who wants a .on.cd adress
(mp3s.on.cd and some more for free!) should try mailing
[e-mail] , that's a friend of mine so be
nice and behave! 8)

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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital music in TV ads, etc.
Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:57:02 GMT


Funny thing,

Watched the telly the other day when I suddenly noticed that the playing
Mullerice ad actually uses The Sinner, or is it The Saint, as its music...
weird!

Also, Halcyon's been used for ages now by the leading Norwegian broadcast
channel (NRK), similar to BBC 1, when they announce upcoming films/shows.

Some people mentioned Bigpipe Style was used way back just before its
release in connection with the Rugby?, Football? world cup, but I never
managed to see that.

Any other ads or similar things that Orbital's music has been used with? I'm
not thinking shows like TX:Nothing, and The Visit now, just simple 15sec to
1min ads. I've heard about Kodak or so, but if that's true which song was
used?

reg,

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From: "juno ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) More David Gray Info/ Voodoo Child ?
Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:01:27 GMT


2.4.00 12:30 EST  From MTV News (US)


Dave Matthews and his manager Coran Capshaw are launching their own
independent record label called According To Our Records, which will take
the acronym A.T.O. Records.

Welsh singer-songwriter David Gray, who has opened for the Dave Matthews
Band, Radiohead, and Shawn Colvin on past tours, is the first artist to sign
with the label, which will release Gray's "The White Ladder" LP on March 21.

In Ireland, "The White Ladder" has already reached multi-platinum status and
reached number one on the Irish album charts after almost a year in stores.

To entice those that may have already picked up the record in the import
bins, the American version of "White Ladder" will include two bonus tracks,
"Night Blindness" and "Babylon II," in addition to the album's original nine
songs.

(....plus more DMB stuff)



Also, is there an Orbital track called "Voodoo Child" ? I found this on
Napster last night, and it actually has Jimi's voice sampled in it.

- Josh
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From: "Kelbert" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) More David Gray Info/ Voodoo Child ?
Date: 08 Feb 2000 08:29:34 -0800


juno . <[e-mail]> wrote:

> is there an Orbital track called "Voodoo Child" ? I found this on
> Napster last night, and it actually has Jimi's voice sampled in it.
>
> - Josh

I'm pretty sure that track you found was actually by Moby.  On his
Early Underground disk, there's a track called Voodoo Child.  I have
an mp3 of a remix of voodoo child that I got off Napster, but I dont
remember if it camed named Moby, or if I searched for it by using
Voodoo Child (one of moby's alter egos).

I'm noticing napster has a lot of mislabeled tracks lately.  Can you
believe I found someone trying to pass off I'll Stop the world (and melt
with you) as being done by the cure???  sick, eh?

So yeah.  Unless there's an Orbital track I don't know about, I'm pretty
sure you have a Moby track.  Enjoy.

-Kelly


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From: "Steven Carver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital music in TV ads, etc.
Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:33:17 GMT



>Any other ads or similar things that Orbital's music has been used >with?

I seem to remember Granada TV using the second part of 'Nothing Left' to
advertise some FA Cup football game or other. That was ages ago, though.

Steve
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From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Orbital music in TV ads, etc.
Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:17:30 -0800



I saw a PBS commercial the other day that was using the Saint through the
entire thing.



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From: "Arfie Mansfield" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital music in TV ads, etc.
Date: 08 Feb 2000 17:32:59 +0000


The Saint - some BBC holiday programme just before 8:00 on Sun.
The Box part I - Tommorow's World James Bond thing.
The Box part II - ad for a BBC2 programme about WW2 (Nazis/Soviets)
Doctor Who theme - Dr Who night on BBC2

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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (non-orbital) Real Audio grabbing software?
Date: 08 Feb 2000 18:38:14 GMT


Another bothering message. ;)

Some people were talking about a software program that allows you to get
hold of Real Audio/Video files if you know their URL. Anyone able to help?

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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital music in TV ads, etc.
Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:39:15 -0500


Ian Mahuron wrote:
>
> I saw a PBS commercial the other day that was using the Saint through the
> entire thing.

If PBS doesn't do it, who will? ;)

ShNnN


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) -- Depression by numbers
Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:53:57 EST


>>Alright, I saw Armand van Helden at Avalon in Boston last Friday, and I was
disappointed. It was like NY House to the extreme. How many times can you
play a song with "HOUSE MEWSIK!" repeated over and over! And no melody! What
the hell!? Oh well, Sasha's due to come through here in a few weeks, I'll be
fine then :-)
<<

Anyone know where I could find tour dates for this?  Any chance of Sasha
making a Chicago appearance?  When?

-Cas-


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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Single women
Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:40:33 +0000


life kid wrote:
>
> unfortunately, you're right. met one at the concert, boyfriend wasn't even
> dancing with her, bastard. i mean, if you're going to bring your lady to a
> concert that she's into, dance with her! even if you're not into the music,
> as long as you're sharing that experience with her, right? but at least
> there's still the fact that those women are out there. laterz.

Damn, and I thought you actually snagged one.  Oh well...

The ratio for single women is so low in the rave scene that I wonder if
I should hit the club scene to make up for it.  It's bad enough that I'm
into the male-dominated computer and VG cultures.

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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) -- Depression by numbers
Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:44:51 +0000


"Shannon K. Campbell" wrote:
>
> Remind me,
>   It really sux!
>
> It's like Science Friction
> Like being in a Box
> OOOOLAAAA! It's Monday.
>                 Sad But True ....
>
> ...blah blah blah...
>
> I'll be
>    \|/
>   --0-- The Guy With The Sun In His Head
>    /|\
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Life's a "Beach"~~~~~~~~~:)
>
> Philip, I guess you gotta
> Know Where To Run ;)
>
> Input Out.

Ooookay.  That was totally pointless.  Somebody remind Shannon to take
his/her Lithium.  (I'm really sorry, but I forgot your gender.)

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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) -- Depression by numbers
Date: 08 Feb 2000 21:12:09 GMT


> > I'll be
> >    \|/
> >   --0-- The Guy With The Sun In His Head
> >    /|\
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Life's a "Beach"~~~~~~~~~:)
> >
> > Philip, I guess you gotta
> > Know Where To Run ;)
> >
> > Input Out.
>
>Ooookay.  That was totally pointless.  Somebody remind Shannon to take
>his/her Lithium.  (I'm really sorry, but I forgot your gender.)

Yah, but it doesn't hurt reading what he actually wrote though... going out
of your way to change the title of TGWTSIHH.. ;)

Thought I'd drop a note on this issue of single women in the club scene,
well, I've always found that there's so many women going to drum'n'bass
nights, actually more often than to house, trance, etc. nights. Don't know
why, because I always thought it was mostly guys who wanted to be drummers
when they were younger and who find drum rhythms really snazzy. :)

anyway, that thread is pointless too, so here goes my two cents on waste. :)

damn, gotta stop smiling, "trust me"

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From: aimee couture <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Single women
Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:07:37 -0500



>The ratio for single women is so low in the rave scene that I wonder if
>I should hit the club scene to make up for it.  It's bad enough that I'm
>into the male-dominated computer and VG cultures.

damn brendan you make me feel like superwoman ;]
not only am i into raving.. but i'm a techhead too. media information &
technoculture student by day.. network consultant/raver by night =]

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From: aimee couture <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Single women
Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:12:11 -0500



>>The ratio for single women is so low in the rave scene that I wonder if
>>I should hit the club scene to make up for it.  It's bad enough that I'm
>>into the male-dominated computer and VG cultures.
>
>damn brendan you make me feel like superwoman ;]
>not only am i into raving.. but i'm a techhead too. media information &
>technoculture student by day.. network consultant/raver by night =]


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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new to the list
Date: 08 Feb 2000 21:13:16 -0500


Hey Orbital List. I am not exactly new, been on for 2 years, but for
some reason I got kicked off of both this list and Mobility cause
Majordomo didn't like me on Dec 17th... Anyway, I am AJ (used to have
the miyagi account) and I am just dropping back in to say Hi. For anyone
who is new, whats up. Well, I have about 35 Orbital CDs (no bootlegs or
anything - all real). Don't really feel like listing them now though...
Anyway, hope everyone is well. Later.
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Subject: Re: (orbital) Single women
Date: 08 Feb 2000 21:13:40 EST


>The ratio for single women is so low in the rave scene
>that I wonder if I should hit the club scene to make up
>for it.  It's bad enough that I'm into the male-
>dominated computer and VG cultures.

hmmmmm, i dunno bout that :)
there are plenty of cute single females
(at least that ive talked to)
in the rave scene in philly
i tend to walk right up to em and tell em how beautiful they are
maybe u jus have to be a cute gurl to find em :)
hah

>well, I've always found that there's so many women
>going to drum'n'bass nights, actually more often than
>to house, trance, etc. nights. Don't know why, because
>I always thought it was mostly guys who wanted to be
>drummers when they were younger and who find drum
>rhythms really snazzy. :)

yea, there are alot of gurlies in the jungle scene
but they tend not to be as friendly
(in my experience)
unlike me :)
but, uh, i never wanted to be a drummer :\


thats my post of the month
*starLa*

now playing - art of noise
 - seduction of claude debussy :)


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From: "Ryan Downs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Clubs in London
Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:44:29 PST


Hey all, I'm leaving for London in about two weeks, and am very much
interested in going to a club or two while I'm there. I would appreciate it
very much if ya'll could help me out by giving me the addresses, cost, and
hours. Oh, I'm only 17, so it would have to be all ages. Thanx in advance!
Oh yeah, you can respond on the list, or email me at [e-mail]
or [e-mail] Thanx all!

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Words on the Beach song
Date: 09 Feb 2000 00:08:13 -0500


Just in case anyone was curious.  Pretty gross if you ask me.

Trust me, it's paradise
This is where the hungry come to feed
for mine is a generation that searches the globe
for something we haven't tried before

so never refuse an invitation
never resist the unfamiliar
never fail to be polite or outstay a welcome
just keep your mind open and suck in
the experience, and if it hurts, you
know what, it's probably worth it

you hope and you dream, but you
never believe that something is gonna
happen to you, not like it does in the movies
and when it actually does, you expect it
to feel different, more visceral, more real
I was waiting for it to hit me...
hit me...

I still believe in paradise,
but now at least I know it's not some
place you can look for, because it's
not where you go, it's how you feel
for a moment in your life

if you find that moment, it'll last
forever


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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Single women
Date: 09 Feb 2000 05:19:40 +0000


aimee couture wrote:
>
> damn brendan you make me feel like superwoman ;]
> not only am i into raving.. but i'm a techhead too. media information &
> technoculture student by day.. network consultant/raver by night =]

Hey, what's your phone number? :)

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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Single women
Date: 09 Feb 2000 05:20:22 +0000


aimee couture wrote:
>
> oh and i'm verymuch taken

Oh damn...worth a try...

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From: demmietrius anthony cimpson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new to the list
Date: 09 Feb 2000 00:53:21 -0600 (CST)


    You live in Champaign?

            -Demmie




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) Clubs in London
Date: 09 Feb 2000 01:30:29 EST


>>>>Hey all, I'm leaving for London in about two weeks, and am very much=20
interested in going to a club or two while I'm there. I would appreciate it=20
very much if ya'll could help me out by giving me the addresses, cost, and=20
hours. Oh, I'm only 17, so it would have to be all ages. Thanx in advance!=20
Oh yeah, you can respond on the list, or email me at [e-mail]=20
or [e-mail] Thanx all!<<<<

oooo london... first recommendation - bar rumba.  it's a fairly small space=20
with a great sound system, incredibly cool crowd, and excellent music. =20
gilles petersen's monday night event is not to be missed.  cover is usually=20
somewhere around =A34... check out www.barrumba.co.uk for all the info on th=
at.

second recommendation - the annexe (dean street 1, soho) has a great=20
wednesday evening event from 6pm-11pm.  mo-lu and etna spin relaxing and=20
funky music that's equally suited to dancing or sitting around and having a=20
few pints with friends.  tell the djs aaron from nyc says hi. =20

third ... avoid the ministry of sound.  well... if you're into house music,=20
lots and LOTS of bombastic lighting and a very commercial atmosphere, you=20
might have a good time.  hmm.  the ministry is definitely an *impressive*=20
space. the sound system in the main room is easily one of the best i've ever=
=20
heard, and the whole space is massive...but the ministry really isn't my=20
thing.  it reminds me too much of MTV.     i'm glad i visited once, but i=20
have no interest in returning.  ... a bit like the disney world of clubs.

k.. that's it for now.  don't worry about being 17... just don't be an=20
obnoxious tourist and you shouldn't have any problems. ;)
peace,
.aaron ::::::::::::::::::::::::::
........t h e s p e c t r e w e b
.......www.bigfoot.com/~amspectre
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From: "juno ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) RE: Clubs In London
Date: 09 Feb 2000 09:17:39 GMT


Damn ! Only 17 and you're going to London ?

How are you pulling this off ? Did you just save up for a while ? Man, I
wish I could come out there with you. Art Of Noise will be back home to play
their first UK gig in 14 years in March. And VERY bitterly, this will be the
second time I will be missing them. :-(

Oh well. Let me know how it goes and give me some travel tips when you get
back.

:-)

- Josh


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From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) RE: Clubs In London
Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:20:40 +0100


    Juno:-

> How are you pulling this off ? Did you just save up for a while ? Man, I
> wish I could come out there with you. Art Of Noise will be back home to play
> their first UK gig in 14 years in March.
>
    Shit!?!
    When and where is this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (non-orbital) London club (specific venue - Sternklang)
Date: 09 Feb 2000 09:40:23 GMT


Sternklang, Norwegian artist Rune Broendbo, will be playing at The End in
London on March 4th!!

Be sure to check it out, his music ranges from some trip-hop and dub to more
of the gritty, funk with smooth, laidback grooves.

Definetely worth checking in on, I'm not saying this just because he's
Norwegian, but it helps.. ;)

More info on the club at : http://www.the-end.co.uk/

Nothing on Sternklang's appearance yet, but it'll come with the March
listings.

Meantime, check out RA soundclips at this location (from his two albums):

http://www.beatservice.no/bs014.html (Freestylespacefunk, first album)
http://www.beatservice.no/bs023.html (Neolounge, second album)

Regards,

Trym

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Contest
Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:56:10 EST




Been a while since I've done this, so here goes.........

I have two extra CD-R's, each containing the following:

XFM Radio (thanks Marc!!)
1. Interview 1
2. Interview 2
3. Impact
4. Way Out
5. Spare Parts Express
K-Rock Broadcast (7/9/99)
6. Way Out
7. Spare Parts Express
8. Impact
9. Know Where To Run

The burner "put" an extra track in "Know Where" (no, you won't notice it by
playing it straight through- there's no gap, but I'm picky).

The 28th (because I'll be 28 next Tuesday) and 29th responses (to me) get
them, postage paid and no cover art.  So wait a little while to respond (and
this gives the digest people a shot).

Who wants 'em?????

Brent
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Paul Oakenfold offer...
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:25:53 +0000


Okay..
I know there are a few Oakenfold on this list and so i'm bringing you
this special offer...
There's a HUUGE Paul Oakenfold dir just now on my friend's ftp that
you guys will prolly totally drool over if you saw it, it's 2GBs and
more of rare tracks and heaps of bootlegs...
However, this is a member-ftp, so here's my offer:

I will throw on my FXP client and *try* to FXP the stuff to the dude
who's got the fattest uplink, then all the rest can leech from him!..
Euro servers are preferred, but not mandatory!..

The connection should be DAMN fast as i don't intend to spend 20
hours on that! <:-) His uplink is an Ethernet Uni-connection...

Anyone who's interested, mail me!.. The weekend will prolly be the
time when it'll happen... I don't ask for nothing in exchange so this
is no try to get ahold of any member-accounts! >:-)

This is my special offer cause you're a bunch of cool people and i
feel like giving back some of the Orbital-pleasure that some of you
have enabled me to experience (you know who you are! ;-D

Best regards, DeeKay


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From: "Ryan Downs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) RE: Clubs In London
Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:38:51 PST





----Original Message Follows----
Damn ! Only 17 and you're going to London?
How are you pulling this off ? Did you just save up for a while ?
- Josh
Actually, heh, my parents are rather well off. I don't mean to brag (well,
maybe a little :) but London is cheap compared to what I got for Christmas.

Humbly,
-Ryan
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From: "Tom Priore" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Single women
Date: 09 Feb 2000 21:53:19 -0500


There's a rave scene in philly? Where?

>hmmmmm, i dunno bout that :)
>there are plenty of cute single females
>(at least that ive talked to)
>in the rave scene in philly
>I tend to walk right up to em and tell em how beautiful they are
>maybe u jus have to be a cute gurl to find em :)
>hah

    Tom



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Deeper(edit)
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:48:04 EST


Hello

I need a bit of help.  I am looking for an individual who is lucky enough to
own the Radiccio CD (Japanese Version).  I am doing a video presentation for
school and need the vocals through out this track.  Since I don't see myself
finding this CD in this life time, would anyone out there be able to make an
MP3 of Deeper (edit) for me (I know MP3s are a no-no, but it will go to a
good use).  E-mail me privately if you can help.

Thanx
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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) new to the list
Date: 10 Feb 2000 00:20:46 -0500


Hey, Marc, I am still in Boston. For a while at least. May go back to
Japan this summer though (I hope! - an Internship with Fidelity
Investments!). But anyway, can one of yous guys help me out, you too
Rob!, about keeping me informed about what is going on in Boston. I
would have loved to see the show last friday with AVH. Somone help me
out! (By the way, especially Rob, I moved out of the dorms of BC guess
it sucks there, and I live in an Apartment with my girlfriend in Kenmore
square. It is awesome! So I should be near you now huh...) Anyway, gotta
sleep. Later.
AJ


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From: "Mike George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) RE: Clubs In London
Date: 09 Feb 2000 07:38:37 -0500



> How are you pulling this off ? Did you just save up for a while ? Man, I
> wish I could come out there with you. Art Of Noise will be back home to
play
> their first UK gig in 14 years in March.
>
    Shit!?!
    When and where is this!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>


I just saw them play at the paradise in Boston at the end of last year,
excellent they were, if you get the chance make sure you go.


Mick ^EA^

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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Oakie FTP
Date: 09 Feb 2000 15:34:40 -0700


Please let me know when it becomes available.  Danke vielmals!


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From: "K Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Raves in Philly (was: Single women)
Date: 10 Feb 2000 07:48:55 -0800


Tom Priore <[e-mail]> wrote:

> There's a rave scene in philly? Where?
>

I saw richie hawtin in philly about a year ago.  There's a club that sorta
lends itself to the rave atmosphere.  Evolutions or Revolutions or
something?  Anyone else at that show remember what it was called?  Its been
a year and I don't really remember.  But there were lots of flyers for
other shows/parties at the door.  So there is a scene.  You just need to
look for it ;)

Check out alt.rave and keep your eyes open for Philly in the subject line.
I know events do get announced on there.  Hope this helps.

-Kelly


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (orbital) Single women
Date: 10 Feb 2000 22:19:52 EST


well, phillys 'scene' might not compare
to pittsburgh or ny
but its nice bein right in the middle of em :)
there are quite a few clubs, although i dont go to many...  most of the good ones are 21 and over...
like dieselboys weekly show at fluid
or the jazzyfat nastys show at the five spot
:\
but the scene cant be that bad
if theres always somethin for me to do :)
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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital Videos
Date: 10 Feb 2000 22:33:29 -0500


Hey, I know a bunch of you already got videos off of my ftp site, but
Steve is really the one who should take credit.  I have removed them
from my site (if you want a list, read the Orbital videos.txt file in
the miscellany folder), and you should get them from www.loopz.co.uk,
where I got them.  Really great stuff, too (Steve worked hard)!  Thanks,
Steve, for being cool about everything, and thanks everyone for the huge
interest.  And the incredibly strange uploads... = )

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From: "Mr. Telex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Good DJ's ?
Date: 11 Feb 2000 08:15:39 GMT


Hey all, what's up ?

Like the new name ? :-)

Well, some friends and I were going to hit up a rave in LA on Saturday (this
will be my first ever), and I received a list of DJ's who will be there.

I don't know of any of these people (except for Bones); I wondering if
anyone had heard of these guys before and could tell me if they're any good
or not. Plus some general raving ettiquite would be nice as well (I know to
watch out for my drinks :-).

This is the rave info....
February 12 (Saturday) - To The A.M.  by To The A.M.
Productions

"An all ages event dedicated by us to all the true
people that are aching for a fresh new experience with
high quality and genuine intensity...this is going to
be a unique valentines day extravaganza changin' it up
with four worlds of musik featuring up n coming talent
and well-respected heavyweights."

Including:

House/Breaks/Techno:

Frankie Bones, Barry Weaver, Lenny V, Brad Slims, Chris B, Danny Smalls,
Duncan

Trance:
        D.J. Plasticdan Lewis, Signal, Wyse, Kiva, Travis

Jungle/Drum N'Bass:
       E-Sassin, Machete W/Mc?, Tekmo, Too Much, T.R.B., Operator

Trip Hop/Hip Hop:
       Retrograde Inversion (Live Act), Point Dexter, Tekmo, D.J.Dru


Info 818.750.5672 / 661.250.6323 /213.313.6974 / 714.207.4882


- Josh

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From: "Mike Barker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: (orbital) CJ Bolland???
Date: 12 Feb 2000 00:18:06 -0800


Someone wrote:
>If you like 'Electronic Highway', you should also check out his 'Analogue
>Theatre' album which has a similar feel to it. Tough, pounding tracks.

Well, if Electronic Highway is anything like Analogue Theatre I say "Don't
waste your money". I got it (Analogue Theatre) last night and I HATE IT.
Talk about no "message" or direction... Talk about a waste of $20... The
guy's good with his sequencer, but the music, IMFO, goes nowhere. I'll add
this to my stack of other sleepers that I bought as a result of taking the
suggestions from messages posted on this list. I now think the only good
music discussed on this list is Orbital... I bought a couple of Sasha discs
too- Does this guy just use other people's music or what? IMFO- Total waste
of time, uninspired, pointless... I got the "Global Underground, San
Francisco" and pretty much fell asleep. If this recording truly is a
reflection of the experience Sasha creates during his live performances then
I think I'd rather watch the Teletubbies or maybe pick the lint out of my
navel or maybe just take a nap. I see how rare truly talented recording
artists are even in our super gadgetized-high-techno-enabled modern world.
LONG LIVE ORBITAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-L8R-

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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Beach - Beached
Date: 12 Feb 2000 00:30:27 -0800 (PST)


I saw the movie and it was very good.  I had no idea what to expect.
They didn't use "Beached" anywhere in the movie though.  Not even
during the end credits!

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Subject: Re: FW: (orbital) CJ Bolland???
Date: 12 Feb 2000 03:37:10 -0600 (CST)




On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, Mike Barker wrote:

> guy's good with his sequencer, but the music, IMFO, goes nowhere. I'll add
> this to my stack of other sleepers that I bought as a result of taking the
> suggestions from messages posted on this list. I now think the only good
> music discussed on this list is Orbital... I bought a couple of Sasha discs
> too- Does this guy just use other people's music or what? IMFO- Total waste
> of time, uninspired, pointless... I got the "Global Underground, San
> Francisco" and pretty much fell asleep. If this recording truly is a
> reflection of the experience Sasha creates during his live performances then
> I think I'd rather watch the Teletubbies or maybe pick the lint out of my
> navel or maybe just take a nap. I see how rare truly talented recording
> artists are even in our super gadgetized-high-techno-enabled modern world.
> LONG LIVE ORBITAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, first of all, I've only heard one or two tracks by CJ Bolland, so I
can't really comment on him. But Sasha...he IS a DJ, you must realize, and
DJs on the whole don't play their own music. So where they have their
talent is in the mixing of tracks, in which case Sasha is one of the best
in the world, in my opinion. Also, no, his CDs don't really reflect his
live sets, especially the Northern Exposure ones, they're a lot more
subdued than his live sets. And about the "going nowhere" of these
CDs...well you must rememeber, this IS techno/dance music! ^_^
repetitiveness is one of the main aspects of the entire genre. Almost all
of the CDs I've bought that I've heard of from this list were good ones,
mostly because I've listened to them with an open mind, ready for
something new. Yes, I do like Orbital (a lot), but certainly everything
can't be just like them. Orbital rarely gets very dancy, so I'd rather
listen to someone who's better at producing dance music when that's what
I'm looking for; a DJ, etc.
Soooo, maybe repetitive, dance-oriented music just isn't your cup of
tea. Orbital are good at bringing in people with varying tastes, which I
think is a good thing. But this kinda music does make some of us very
happy :)

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Subject: FW: (orbital) CJ Bolland???
Date: 11 Feb 2000 18:31:29 -0800


Someone wrote:
>If you like 'Electronic Highway', you should also check out his 'Analogue
>Theatre' album which has a similar feel to it. Tough, pounding tracks.

Well, if Electronic Highway is anything like Analogue Theatre I say "Don't
waste your money". I got it (Analogue Theatre) last night and I HATE IT.
Talk about no "message" or direction... Talk about a waste of $20... The
guy's good with his sequencer, but the music, IMFO, goes nowhere. I'll add
this to my stack of other sleepers that I bought as a result of taking the
suggestions from messages posted on this list. I now think the only good
music discussed on this list is Orbital... I bought a couple of Sasha discs
too- Does this guy just use other people's music or what? IMFO- Total waste
of time, uninspired, pointless... I got the "Global Underground, San
Francisco" and pretty much fell asleep. If this recording truly is a
reflection of the experience Sasha creates during his live performances then
I think I'd rather watch the Teletubbies or maybe pick the lint out of my
navel or maybe just take a nap. I see how rare truly talented recording
artists are even in our super gadgetized-high-techno-enabled modern world.
LONG LIVE ORBITAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: Chris Perkins <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Off Topic Question
Date: 12 Feb 2000 13:50:43 -0700


i apologize for the off-topic question but i'm in a dilemma and am wondering
if anyone here might be able to help me out.  while out of town a little
while back, i went on one of my usual album buying binges that i go on out
of town.  anyway, i purchased a copy of Gatecrasher Disco-Tech.  upon
listening to it at home, i realized that the second disc skips pretty badly
at one point, however there are no scratches or blemishes on the disc,
leading me to believe it's some sort of pressing error.  anyway, i'd like to
get a new copy, but my problem is this.  there isn't a single store here in
town that carries imports so i can't return it anywhere here, and i e-mailed
the company that released the album (INCredible) and have yet to receive any
response.  so i'm wondering if anyway has any suggestions as to a means
where i could somehow exchange the defective album for a different copy or
at least get my money back.  i hate to have to order another copy of it but
at this point that looks like it's my only option.  thanks for any help.


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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) The Beach - Beached
Date: 13 Feb 2000 13:50:37 GMT


>I saw the movie and it was very good.  I had no idea what to expect.
>They didn't use "Beached" anywhere in the movie though.  Not even
>during the end credits!

I saw the movie and it was awful. I expected something in the lines of the
book, but they changed everything to make yet another Leo-film aimed at
teenage girls who'll buy posters of him saying "Trust me, it's paradise" and
they'll remember things from the film, a film telling a completely different
story.

Lots of good music in the soundtrack however, you hear a version of Beached
actually, but only in acoustic piano, and not the Orbital version I think. I
think Beached may be the theme to the film, so there's probably a few
different versions of it flying around.

But as the film goes, nice scenery, good cast apart from Leo who really
should have been replaced by Ewan MacGregor, and such a shame they didn't
tell the story of the novel. I knew I shouldn't have seen a Leo-film (having
blatantly ignored both Romeo&Juliet and Titanic), and now I know why.

enough bickering from me in one day, lovely sunshine outside... think
positive.. "it's paradise".. aaarrrrgghh!!

Trym

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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (non-orbital) OT: www-sites on F Communications, L Garnier or F Galliano
Date: 13 Feb 2000 13:53:33 GMT


Well, subject reads the question...

If anyone has found a website with information about either Frederic
Galliano, Laurent Garnier or F Communications, would you please tell me the
URL?

Thanks,

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Subject: Re: (orbital) The Beach - Beached
Date: 13 Feb 2000 17:08:31 +0000


Trym Asserson wrote:
>
> But as the film goes, nice scenery, good cast apart from Leo who really
> should have been replaced by Ewan MacGregor, and such a shame they didn't
> tell the story of the novel. I knew I shouldn't have seen a Leo-film (having
> blatantly ignored both Romeo&Juliet and Titanic), and now I know why.

Actually, Romeo and Juliet was quite good.  Original in the way that
they kept the Shakespeare script intact while having it take place in
modern times.  Don't shrug off a movie just because of the actor.  Leo
may be a really bad role model (he's an asshole in real life), but he's
a decent actor.

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From: "Shaun Rader" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) The Beach - Beached
Date: 13 Feb 2000 10:58:35 -0800


> I saw the movie and it was awful. I expected something in the
> lines of the book, but they changed everything to make yet another

Well I read reviews that tore the movie up after I saw it but still, it was
entertaining throughout and I was thoroughly amused at points.  Many things
cracked me up in that movie!  I think Leo is a good actor but I don't know
who Ewan MacGregor is.

On Topic: When does the Beached single come out?  I thought it was early
March.  I still don't see it on yalplay.com for pre-order.  Are there other
good UK places someone in the US should check out online for good import
deals?

Thanks,
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Subject: (orbital) Jeez, and there was me hoping this kid sunk with the Titanic! >:
Date: 13 Feb 2000 20:19:53 +0000




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From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FW: (orbital) CJ Bolland???
Date: 13 Feb 2000 11:02:32 -0500


Anthony N Gall wrote:

>> I bought a couple of Sasha discs too- Does this guy just use other
>> people's music or what? IMFO- Total waste of time, uninspired,
>> pointless... I got the "Global Underground, San Francisco" and pretty
>> much fell asleep. If this recording truly is a reflection of the
>> experience Sasha creates during his live performances then I think
>> I'd rather watch the Teletubbies or maybe pick the lint out of my
>> navel or maybe just take a nap.
...
> And about the "going nowhere" of these CDs...well you must rememeber,
> this IS techno/dance music! ^_^ repetitiveness is one of the main
> aspects of the entire genre. Almost all of the CDs I've bought that
> I've heard of from this list were good ones, mostly because I've
> listened to them with an open mind, ready for something new. Yes, I do
> like Orbital (a lot), but certainly everything can't be just like them.
> Soooo, maybe repetitive, dance-oriented music just isn't your cup of
> tea. Orbital are good at bringing in people with varying tastes, which I
> think is a good thing. But this kinda music does make some of us very
> happy :)

I second that. I was just about to write what Mr. Anthony wrote here :))
Just wanted to add that the thing I love about dance music like Sasha's
stuff is that it's really good at creating environments. The thump-thump
of a dance beat does more to paint a mood than anything else IMHO. Take
that San Francisco disc and listen to Freaky Chakra's "Platform" at 3am
on a school night... maybe you'll catch a feeling from it. Oh, btw,
Mike, not to flame u, but I hope you aren't one of those people who
listens to cds by listening to the first seven seconds of every track...
with a DJ like Sasha that will so get you nowhere ;D Try listening it
out all the way and opening your mind to it when you're not distracted.

... the one thing I wholeheartedly agree with u on, though, is the fact
that Sasha gets ludicrous amounts of money to play other people's music
;) I used not to buy dj mixes for that reason... if anyone cares to
spend some money on it, the album that blew me out of that frame of mind
was Paul Oakenfold's "Tranceport..." worth the money :)
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From: "Mike Barker" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: FW: (orbital) CJ Bolland???
Date: 13 Feb 2000 18:59:52 -0800



Thanks for the suggestions. I must say that I have given Sasha's stuff more
than a fair chance, about 2 months worth. I've cranked it on my Klipsch
speakers with my 200 watt JVC amplifier, tried it with my nice Sony
headphones but it just didn't do anything for me. And no, I didn't just
listen to the first 7 seconds of each track... I guess Orbital has spoiled
me, but that's OK with me. My appetite has been satiated recently with the
KEWL mp3z @Marc Sawaya's server, Thanks Marc!!!!

Peace Everyone!

-Mike



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Subject: Re: (orbital) mp3z @Marc Sawaya's server
Date: 14 Feb 2000 05:03:15 +0000


Mike Barker mumbled:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I must say that I have given Sasha's stuff more
> than a fair chance, about 2 months worth. I've cranked it on my Klipsch
> speakers with my 200 watt JVC amplifier, tried it with my nice Sony
> headphones but it just didn't do anything for me. And no, I didn't just
> listen to the first 7 seconds of each track... I guess Orbital has spoiled
> me, but that's OK with me. My appetite has been satiated recently with the
> KEWL mp3z @Marc Sawaya's server, Thanks Marc!!!!

Speaking of which, I've been leeching (and uploading) from his server,
too.  Enjoying a lot of the Orbital B-Sides that I was missing, but I
think we should all be careful to properly label these songs.  I don't
blame Marc for these, but Orbital doing the Mission: Impossible theme?
C'mon!  (It was done by Larry Mullen and Adam Clayton.)  Other mysteries
include:

A song called I've Seen the Future.  Now Cirrus did a song called Future
with a sample "I've Seen the Future", so it's probably a remix, but I
don't know the exact details.  (It was previously labeled as an Orbital
song, but I knew that wasn't right.)

Beck's "Loser (Fatboy Slim remix)".  I know it's a remix of Loser, but I
can't
confirm if it's a FBS remix.  I don't see any remixes of Loser on any
Beck discographies (even detailed ones with rare import information).

Bjork's All is Full of Love remixed by Mu-Ziq.  But, Bjork has 6 remixes
of AiFoL, and nothing matchs this one.

Other mystery remixes of Bjork's songs.  I've got remixes from Tricky,
Photek, and Alec Empire that I can't confirm.

Orbital - The Seven Samurai (remixed by Photek).  Huh?  When did Orbital
do the original?  Where is it at?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) music in the X-files
Date: 14 Feb 2000 01:09:13 EST


anybody happen to know who did the music in the eppisode of the x-files that
aired tonight about the dead children.  It was haunting and yet very
uplifting, very vocal, beautiful. thanksin advance

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joona_P=F6yh=F6nen?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Marc Sawaya's server??
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:29:59 +0200


What's the address for this server? I'd really like to take a look?

Have you people downloaded your copy of Orbital's Beached yet? It's free at
http://windowsmedia.microsoft.com/Music/downloads.asp

I really like this song myself!!!

thanks for yuor help!

-joona



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From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Single women
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:36:39 +0100



Single women?

Happy Valentines Day!!!

Love, hugs and kisses.

Phil :)



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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) music in the X-files
Date: 14 Feb 2000 09:00:49 -0500


I don't watch XFiles, but I know that the music was MOBY. If you don't
know Moby, do yourself a favor and go find out. Now. I have a lot of
Orbital CDs, but I have 3 times as many Moby Cds! Check him out! Later.
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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (non-orbital) OT: last time in a awhile... looking for track
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:00:45 GMT


Okay, this thread was done earlier, just need to know because this song is
bugging me.

You know the "Storm brewing" ad for Caffreys, which artist is that and
what's the name of the song?

Thanks ever so much if you can stop me biting nails, chewing teeth, etc.
etc.

Trym :)
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From: "Mr. Telex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Dotmusic Chat
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:04:45 GMT


Happy Valentine's Day (now go make love to "Belfast") !!!

;-P

Chat with Orbital and Left Field Wednesday at Dotmusic.

http://www.dotmusic.com/news/February2000/news12956.asp

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Subject: (orbital) my mistake
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:15:27 GMT


Whoops !

:-0

The Left Field chat is on Wednesday; the ORBITAL CHAT isn't until THE 24th.

Sorry.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) music in the X-files
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:33:02 +0000


AJ Brustein wrote:
>
> I don't watch XFiles, but I know that the music was MOBY. If you don't
> know Moby, do yourself a favor and go find out. Now. I have a lot of
> Orbital CDs, but I have 3 times as many Moby Cds! Check him out! Later.

Nooooo!  Stay away from Moby!

j/k.  Investigate any band ya hear about.  My opinion is that he's done
slightly better on his latest stuff, but he's just not complex enough
for my tastes.

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Marc's kickass ftp
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:58:10 -0500


yeah, for whoever wanted the addy, it's apocrypha.res.wpi.net,
user/pass: orbital.  Many thanks to whoever uploaded William Orbit's
Barbers Adagio, very good song, and I think I'll start checking out some
more of his stuff (hint: keep uploading = ).  As for all the other stuff
that was uploaded... yeah...  You people have _very_ strange tastes =
).  Anyway, do what you like.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) music in the X-files
Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:05:22 EST




Moby!!!    Yuck!
Lame...............boring........overrated.........unimaginative.........white
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Subject: Re: (orbital) Marc's kickass ftp
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:17:25 +0000


Marc Sawaya wrote:
>
> yeah, for whoever wanted the addy, it's apocrypha.res.wpi.net,
> user/pass: orbital.  Many thanks to whoever uploaded William Orbit's
> Barbers Adagio, very good song, and I think I'll start checking out some
> more of his stuff (hint: keep uploading = ).  As for all the other stuff
> that was uploaded... yeah...  You people have _very_ strange tastes =
> ).  Anyway, do what you like.

You like William Orbit, eh?  I'll have to send some of my Strange Cargo
2 and 3.  And if you can stand it, maybe even Madonna's Ray of Light
(mostly made by WO).

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From: Kurt Foy Booker <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) beached/sasha/7samurai
Date: 14 Feb 2000 08:42:14 -0800


Lot's of stuff I want to reply to from the latest digest:

The Beach:  The book is very good, but I'll avoid the movie too.  Leonardo
just doesn't have that machismo that a leading guy must have.  When I first
saw Gilbert Grape, I thought it was an actual retarded person playing the
role.  As for the movie itself... it seems the major change from the book
is that Leo and the girl do it.  In the book they don't.  I admired the
fact that Garland (the author) had the courage to write it that way.
Hollywood is full of cowards.

Beached:  Please let there be an instrumental!

Sasha is boring:    Wow!  I thought I was completely alone in falling
asleep to the Global Underground series.  I guess it's one of those "you
had to be there" type situations.  You also probably had to be on very good
drugs...  Can I also admit that I finally bought Paul Oakenfields
Tranceport Vol I yesterday... popped it in the CD player... and fell
asleep!!  I like trance, I like good mixes... and I don't really sleep that
much!  But this latest trend is kinda boring.  I'm starting to suspect
there are some very good marketers working behind the scenes.

Orbital - The Seven Samurai (remixed by Photek):  An interesting new
phenomena - fake mixes.  Whether intentionally done to deceive, or someone
was simply mistaken, it makes collecting (and reality) much more
interesting now, doesn't it?  History is full of examples of officially
accepted truths as actually being untrue, and we may now be witnessing
future examples being born!

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From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Steve=20Price?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Updates on Loopz - Remix mp3s online - 60 pics and 60 reviews from 1999 Tour
Date: 14 Feb 2000 16:03:59 +0000 (GMT)


All

      Major updates - hence the delay since the last
update :)

      TOURS 1999 PAGES
      Old website transferred with a few additions -
lots more to be updated so
      please dont email me asking where your
contribution is. 60 Pictures and 60
      Reviews (that was'nt planned - nope!) added to
this section.

      REMIX COMPO 1999
      Still no decision on the winner - its very hard
this year! I have dropped
      the Mp3 samples and replaced them with 56Kbps
Full versions. Quality is a
      lot better and you can hear the FULL track.
Please feel free to discuss
      your views on the remixes in the FORUM provided
on the site.

      The Beach discog info and samples coming soon...

      Thanx

      Steve LOOPZ Price
      Orbital Zine
      www.loopz.co.uk
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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #298
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:36:56 -0700 (MST)


brenden - the mu-ziq mix of bjork's "all is full of love" is real.
funkstorung also did a couple for that song. and there's a mu-ziq mix of
"hunter" as well - bizarre stuff, but cool. you know they toured together
(bjork and mike p.), right?

i think the fbs rmx of beck might be real, but don't quote me.

the photek thing is a mislable. like that damn "blue illusion" thing. and
no, orbital didn't do little fluffy clouds, sheesh.

btw, sasha = good.

anyone have the carl cox f.a.c.t. II comp? i've been listening to that
lately and have been very impressed by the mixing. assuming it was
mastered from vinyl (i'd be very disappointed if not) then there's some
really cool stuff where he brings in bits of the next track like 4 minutes
before the current track is through. the man works fast. :)

and just to add some controversial orbital-related flavor, anyone know
where i can get an mp3 of the beached song? i haven't yet heard it and
can't find it on napster. :P

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Subject: Re: (orbital) beached/sasha/7samurai
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:54:10 +0000


Kurt Foy Booker wrote:
>
> Beached:  Please let there be an instrumental!

Yeah, I do think that Leo's vocals was kinda annoying.  Especially on
the first few words "Trust me...it's paradise".  Sounded like some
cheesy dialog from a bad video game.

> Sasha is boring:    Wow!  I thought I was completely alone in falling
> asleep to the Global Underground series.  I guess it's one of those "you
> had to be there" type situations.  You also probably had to be on very good
> drugs...  Can I also admit that I finally bought Paul Oakenfields
> Tranceport Vol I yesterday... popped it in the CD player... and fell
> asleep!!  I like trance, I like good mixes... and I don't really sleep that
> much!  But this latest trend is kinda boring.  I'm starting to suspect
> there are some very good marketers working behind the scenes.

Trance mixes are an acquired taste, I've found out.  So far I've found
Sasha and John to be my favorite trance mixers, but I really only like
their Expedition mixes.  Northern Exposure: Eastcoast edition had some
good shit to it like the Gus Gus, Fluke, and Hybrid tracks.  I didn't
like Westcoast edition as much, but it was pretty good.  Tranceport had
a lot of good songs like that double-remixed version of Purple, though
it didn't have the impact that Kel would have hoped.  (Hey, I don't see
all of you guys raving about Orzic Tentacles' Waterfall Cities, so...)

Renaissance America is also good.  The first two songs really stick out
as my favorites.  Moontribe (Sound Without Walls) is a great tribal
trance mix.  Logical Progressions is pretty good D&B, but I wish that
LTJ Bukem would put out his own album, because those are really the only
songs that I like.  Bigger Dirtier Beats 2 is a nice bigbeat mix.
Plastic Compilation Vol 2 is also really good, with various
D&B/bigbeat/IDM mixes.  Really, I just use these CDs as a jump point for
other artist, but it's kinda hard to tell if it's the mixer's talent or
the composer's talent.  Juno Reactor and Eat Static are still my two
favorite trance artists, though.  And I didn't find either of them
through trance mixes.

> Orbital - The Seven Samurai (remixed by Photek):  An interesting new
> phenomena - fake mixes.  Whether intentionally done to deceive, or someone
> was simply mistaken, it makes collecting (and reality) much more
> interesting now, doesn't it?  History is full of examples of officially
> accepted truths as actually being untrue, and we may now be witnessing
> future examples being born!

Yeah, but who actually did the song?  I collect these songs, but I also
check all of these stuff on CDNOW and other discography resources to
properly label this shit.  I think it's only mistaken decisions by MP3
server guys, who get a song with missing information and guess by
grabbing the most popular guy in that field.  (FBS, Chem Bros, and
Orbital seem to be popular artists that get mistakenly inserted into ID3
tags.)

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From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Moby.. and hello
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:36:35 -0800



I'm impressed with some of the tracks on the "Play" album.  They're simple,
yet have some wonderful layered melodies.  The orchestral songs are probably
my favorites (Porcelain, My Weakness).  The CD is well worth the money IMO.
The music has really helped me over the past couple of weeks.

Of course, "Forever" will always be my favorite placebo.

FYI.. I rarely get to read the list as I have been quite ill for almost a
month now.  I've got pneumonia or something of the sorts.  I can hardly
dress myself as I am very weak.  I hope to be better soon.

I hope to be able to post more soon.. and with a lucid mind!

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #298
Date: 14 Feb 2000 19:19:46 +0000


Nub wrote:
>
> brenden - the mu-ziq mix of bjork's "all is full of love" is real.
> funkstorung also did a couple for that song. and there's a mu-ziq mix of
> "hunter" as well - bizarre stuff, but cool. you know they toured together
> (bjork and mike p.), right?

Really?  I would have paid good money to get into that concert.  Do you
know what CD these mixes come from, or are they just bootlegs?

> i think the fbs rmx of beck might be real, but don't quote me.

Again, it sounds real, but I can't find any information on any remix
(FBS or otherwise) of Loser in any discography of Beck's.

> the photek thing is a mislable. like that damn "blue illusion" thing. and
> no, orbital didn't do little fluffy clouds, sheesh.

That would be The Orb.  Got a bunch of their CDs, too.

> btw, sasha = good.
>
> anyone have the carl cox f.a.c.t. II comp? i've been listening to that
> lately and have been very impressed by the mixing. assuming it was
> mastered from vinyl (i'd be very disappointed if not) then there's some
> really cool stuff where he brings in bits of the next track like 4 minutes
> before the current track is through. the man works fast. :)

Hmmm...the only example of good mixing like that is the Chem Bros
Brothers Gonna Work it Out mix CD, where they had four or five songs
merging together with various samples from each.

> and just to add some controversial orbital-related flavor, anyone know
> where i can get an mp3 of the beached song? i haven't yet heard it and
> can't find it on napster. :P

Marc's server has it now.

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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) William Orbit
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:35:09 -0500


Hope you get well Ian!

Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote:
> You like William Orbit, eh?  I'll have to send some of my Strange Cargo
> 2 and 3.  And if you can stand it, maybe even Madonna's Ray of Light
> (mostly made by WO).

My fav William Orbit is an old House disc called "Bass-o-matic"
[mid-80's!!!]
A similar thing came out right afterward called "Crunch-o-matic" {but
NOT by him} But both are awesome old tech.
For my money, Bass-o-matic invented catchy House melodies and Diva
vocals.
Marc! I'll dig it up.

[e-mail] wrote:
> Moby!!!    Yuck!
> Lame.......boring.....overrated.....unimaginative.....white bread techno

?White bread techno? What is that?

Moby's TOTALLY Whole Wheat Dude!
Moby's got more up his sleeve than most
He uses 'tech' as a tool! and is interested in other musical forms, and
therein lies the complexity. Tech Jazz Gospel Blues Acid Metal
Classical...
MOBY flys thru so many universes.

At times, I've dismissed him too, but find him more intriguing than
ever...
The more he does the harder he is to pin down.

Hey, My 2P worth

Shannon
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) sasha/7samurai
Date: 14 Feb 2000 20:38:14 +0000


At 08:42 14/02/00 -0800, Kurt Foy Booker wrote:

>Sasha is boring:    Wow!  I thought I was completely alone in falling
>asleep to the Global Underground series.
so I guess I can say I've always found his DJing a bit dull then. Maybe the
mixing's TOO smooth (though most would say smooth means good - I like to
hear a bit of imperfection). I've always liked his remixes, but his own
productions always seems to be lacking something. It's as though he needs
an idea to get going.

At 18:54 14/02/00 +0000, Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote:

> > Orbital - The Seven Samurai (remixed by Photek):
>Yeah, but who actually did the song?  I collect these songs, but I also
I always thought it was just a Photek track, one of his own.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) (non-orbital) OT: last time in a awhile...
Date: 14 Feb 2000 20:41:40 +0000


At 14:00 14/02/00 +0000, Trym Asserson wrote:

>Okay, this thread was done earlier, just need to know because this song is
>bugging me.
>
>You know the "Storm brewing" ad for Caffreys, which artist is that and
>what's the name of the song?

Maybe I've got the wrong Caffreys ad, but there's one that was on a while
back, and I saw again a few days back, that has a remix of Rob Dougan's
"Clubbed to Death" on it. And I saw earlier this evening that someone's put
it up on Marc's FTP - dunno which mix it is (there were 6 or 7 when it was
out on MoWax, and then it was re-released with some awful vocals as
"Furious Angels" with another 20 or 30 remixes I expect). Have a listen to
that, Trym, and see if it's the one.


cheers,
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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) bjork's place
Date: 14 Feb 2000 16:01:01 -0500


Did ya hear that Iceland is giving Bjork her own island!

AP wire says so...

Sorry don't hav the article handy...

shnnn


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From: "Fanno, Jeff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) bjork's place
Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:05:12 -0800




Shannon wrote:

Did ya hear that Iceland is giving Bjork her own island!

AP wire says so...

Sorry don't hav the article handy...

shnnn

I thought I remember reading that a while ago.  But I also thought it was
off of Ireland, not Iceland.  Maybe she likes both.  I'm sure she's the
'queen' of Iceland, so whatever Bjork wants, Bjork gets.

Cheers,
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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) (non-orbital) OT: last time in a awhile...looking for
Date: 14 Feb 2000 16:07:13 -0500


I have the one from the Matrix soundtrack, which is the Kurayamino mix.  How
different is it from the original?


-Marc Sawaya

Jon Green wrote:

>  that has a remix of Rob Dougan's
> "Clubbed to Death" on it. And I saw earlier this evening that someone's put
> it up on Marc's FTP -



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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) sasha
Date: 14 Feb 2000 16:10:05 -0500


Well, I really like the Xpander EP, bought it the first time I was able to get to
a music store.  Rabbitweed is probably my favourite track, but I like Xpander and
Belfunk too (I've caught the O Euchari sample a couple times), and Baja is
calming.  I haven't heard Northern Exposure, never really had the inclination
to.  I don't think I will either.

-Marc Sawaya

>
> > Sasha is boring:    Wow!  I thought I was completely alone in falling
> > asleep to the Global Underground series.  I guess it's one of those "you
> > had to be there" type situations.  You also probably had to be on very good
> > drugs...  Can I also admit that I finally bought Paul Oakenfields
> > Tranceport Vol I yesterday... popped it in the CD player... and fell
> > asleep!!  I like trance, I like good mixes... and I don't really sleep that
> > much!  But this latest trend is kinda boring.  I'm starting to suspect
> > there are some very good marketers working behind the scenes.



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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) bjork's place
Date: 14 Feb 2000 21:15:41 +0000


"Fanno, Jeff" wrote:
>
> Shannon wrote:
>
> Did ya hear that Iceland is giving Bjork her own island!
>
> AP wire says so...
>
> Sorry don't hav the article handy...
>
> shnnn
>
> I thought I remember reading that a while ago.  But I also thought it was
> off of Ireland, not Iceland.  Maybe she likes both.  I'm sure she's the
> 'queen' of Iceland, so whatever Bjork wants, Bjork gets.

Yeah right...and monkeys fly outta my ass.  I really like Bjork, but I
doubt that the govt of Iceland or the govt of Ireland is going to donate
an entire island to her.

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From: "Fanno, Jeff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) bjork's place
Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:24:06 -0800


Well Brendan,
  I hope not to see monkeys fly out of your ass, but here's the article
noting Bjork attempting to  buy a Scottish Island.  I should have said
bought, not given-semantics, semantics.

http://www.bjork.mmedia.is/news/87.htm
<http://www.bjork.mmedia.is/news/87.htm>



Jeff


Yeah right...and monkeys fly outta my ass.  I really like Bjork, but I
doubt that the govt of Iceland or the govt of Ireland is going to donate
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From: Robert Uglesich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) bjork's place
Date: 14 Feb 2000 21:26:18 +0000


Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote:

> Yeah right...and monkeys fly outta my ass.  I really like Bjork,=20
> but I doubt that the govt of Iceland or the govt of Ireland is=20
> going to donate an entire island to her.
>=20

don't forget to take pictures of the monkeys flying out
of your ass... ;-)

http://www.salon.com/people/col/reit/2000/02/10/npthurs/index.html

Being Bj=F6rk has its perks. For one thing, you get your own private
island.  Iceland's prime minister, David Oddsson, has arranged for=20
the singer to have exclusive use of Ellidaey Island "as a royalty
payment" in recognition of all she's done for "the popularity of
Iceland." What ever happened to a nice homey parade and keys to the
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Subject: Re: (orbital) (non-orbital) OT: last time in a
Date: 14 Feb 2000 21:30:43 +0000


At 16:07 14/02/00 -0500, Marc Sawaya wrote:

>I have the one from the Matrix soundtrack, which is the Kurayamino mix.  How
>different is it from the original?

errrr,,,, it's a bit tricky to be sure which *is* the original version. the
Kurayamino version's on the original CD I've got and it's fairly similar to
the "first mix" which is the other original mix contender. Different beat,
and the bits are in different places, but the same tune. There are also two
La Funk Mob mixes, a Carl Craig one and a Peshay one. they are, as you
might expect, not so similar as Dougan's two mixes.


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Marc's kickass ftp
Date: 14 Feb 2000 22:40:03 +0000


> You like William Orbit, eh?  I'll have to send some of my Strange Cargo
> 2 and 3.  And if you can stand it, maybe even Madonna's Ray of Light
> (mostly made by WO).
>

'stand'!! Pah!
Actually i quite like the Ray of Light album!.. It's not about 'avoid
pop at any cost', Brendan! >;-D
Most of the tracks are REALLY catchy and have a good melody and so
on!..  I could hardly come up with just 10 (non-Orbital!) albums that
have THAT many tracks that i really like!..

Btw: i found an essential mix by WO recorded from UK radio..
For those interested: See Oakenfold-offer! >:-)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) WTF is Orbital/Alcatraz???
Date: 14 Feb 2000 22:45:40 +0000


What the hell is THAT then???:
http://www.ebay.de/static/auction/40/4090/409032/40903266.html

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From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) sasha/7samurai
Date: 14 Feb 2000 16:40:09 -0500


Jon Green wrote:

> so I guess I can say I've always found his DJing a bit dull then. Maybe the
> mixing's TOO smooth (though most would say smooth means good - I like to
> hear a bit of imperfection). I've always liked his remixes, but his own
> productions always seems to be lacking something. It's as though he needs
> an idea to get going.

Eh heh heh heh... the one other thing I hate about some "big name" DJs
like Sasha are their mix albums... he sequenced the whole thing ahead of
time using Protools. No two turntables business, all computer-mixed...
don't mean to kill some peoples's joy, but Sasha + Digweed have both
done that (on Northern exposure - expeditions, eg). Kind of a shame when
DJ's think they're above actually being "in the mix" on cd... :(   - KEL


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From: chump <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) stuff
Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:49:18 +0200




  hey.
  first of all.. The Beach song.. i think it's nice.. already spent
  some money on a hit on leoanardo.. but it's ok.
  second thing .. i saw on the last e-mail's some stuff about mp3s ..
  i am looking for a long time for : The Egg - Getting Away With it ..
  plz , not the remix .. only the original track.. if anyone can help
  .. thx in advance



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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Beach
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:03:16 -0000


I saw the movie as well - loved it. There was a scene where the beach theme
was played but im sure it was any part of Orbitals remix. I noticed Orbitals
music was credited in the credits so i wonder ...

I will find out for sure tomorrow..

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
www.loopz.co.uk

------------


I saw the movie and it was very good.  I had no idea what to expect.
They didn't use "Beached" anywhere in the movie though.  Not even
during the end credits!

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From: "Mehul Parekh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Reece
Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:58:15 -0600


Hi all:
And I am really sorry to do this publicly, but is Reece a bad trader or =
just slow?  Reece has not replied back to me through my last 2 emails =
that I have sent him, and has totally ignored my requests to send my cds =
back.
Regularly, I offer my cds to copy to people on this list (Brent Jones, =
Trym, Shannon Campbell and I think Michael Brunet...all of who have =
promptly returned the cds), but Reece got my cds last september and I =
havent received them yet.  At first, it was until he got a burner, then =
it was december and then no replies at all.  Has anyone else had =
problems at all?
I am really sorry to do this like this Reece but I just want my stuff =
back.
Mehul Parekh I


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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: orbital-digest V2 #298
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:48:42 -0500


Yeah, I have fact 2 (not on my ftp, sorry).  I like the second disk better, and
I even saw a professional ice-skating competition where a couple skated to
track 2 off disc 2.  very cool.  I also really like his Siberian Snowstorm, and
the track that comes after.  Disc 1 is alright.

> anyone have the carl cox f.a.c.t. II comp? i've been listening to that
> lately and have been very impressed by the mixing. assuming it was
> mastered from vinyl (i'd be very disappointed if not) then there's some
> really cool stuff where he brings in bits of the next track like 4 minutes
> before the current track is through. the man works fast. :)

it's on my ftp (apocrypha.res.wpi.net, user/pass: orbital).  I'm not sure which
directory it's in, I think I moved it to the orbital/bootlegs folder.

>
>
> and just to add some controversial orbital-related flavor, anyone know
> where i can get an mp3 of the beached song? i haven't yet heard it and
> can't find it on napster. :P

                                                                        -Marc
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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) bjork's place
Date: 14 Feb 2000 23:23:43 +0000


At 21:26 14.2.2000 +0000, Robert Uglesich wrote:
>Being Bj=F6rk has its perks. For one thing, you get your own private
>island.  Iceland's prime minister, David Oddsson, has arranged for
>the singer to have exclusive use of Ellidaey Island "as a royalty
>payment" in recognition of all she's done for "the popularity of
>Iceland." What ever happened to a nice homey parade and keys to the
>city?

and when this broke into the news over here, some whiners in the opposition=
=20
party demanded that the island be offered for 'public' sale, so that others=
=20
could buy it if interested.
according some news item I saw somewhere, she had planned on building a=20
recording studio on the island, to get that special sound she was=20
interested in, more natural & clean space.
or something like that.

last I knew, the matter was still unresolved.



Agust "Nemesis1"  -  [e-mail]  -  ICQ: 1290264 - http://nemesis1.cjb.=
net
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Subject: (orbital) OT: New AFX stuff???
Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:25:07 +0000


I just saw a commercial on German TV (for Arcor Online, just for the
VERY few germans on the list, if there are any at all! <:-) that
featured music that sounded ALOT like Aphex!.. Windowlicker-style!
Either it's someone that took a VERY close listen to Windowlicker or
it's finally some new track by him!.. While we're speaking of
it: Anyone knows when Richard's next album is due??

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Subject: Re: (orbital) bjork's place
Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:25:07 +0000



> Being Bj=F6rk has its perks. For one thing, you get your own private
> island.  Iceland's prime minister, David Oddsson, has arranged for=20
> the singer to have exclusive use of Ellidaey Island "as a royalty
> payment" in recognition of all she's done for "the popularity of
> Iceland." What ever happened to a nice homey parade and keys to the
> city?
>=20
LOL! 8)

"Yeah, Iceland, is that the country where the planes have Tits=20
instead of Motors?" >;-D This one's for all the people who have seen=20
the Sugarcubes' far out "Regina" video (whoever has that track, mail=20
me! 8) starring Bjork as their front-(whatever-species-she-is)! <:-)=20

No offense, big props to her, she fucken rocks! 8)

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Subject: Re: (orbital) The Beach
Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:45:11 +0000



> I saw the movie as well - loved it. There was a scene where the beach theme
> was played but im sure it was any part of Orbitals remix. I noticed Orbitals
> music was credited in the credits so i wonder ...
>
> I will find out for sure tomorrow..
>
> Steve LOOPZ Price
> Orbital Zine
> www.loopz.co.uk
>
Well, i happened to accidentially videotape the TV-ad for the Beach,
and i took the chance of checking out the credits that they show for
a millisecond at the end by using the pause key, and it quoted All
Saints and some other bands for the Soundtrack, and Angelo Branduardi
(or whatever his name is! >:-) for the musical score!.. No Orbital
nowhere! <:-(

So i wonder what's all this good for then? Not that I'd be unhappy
about Orbital not selling out (better: being sold out! 8), i'm just
wondering!..

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Subject: (orbital) Paul Oakenfold status...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:45:11 +0000


At the moment i am FXPing some PO-bootleg to Marc's site (just
grabbed the largest one in the dir, Marc, you better free some space!
>;-D and i'll try to move as much of the stuff there as possible!..

Marc, if you can tell me how fast the transfer is i'd be very happy
as i could estimate when to log back in again when xfer is done!
Unfortunately Leap doesn't show the xfer-rate! <:-)

So all of you go ahead and leech, but be warned, i'll move the
biggest ones first!  >;-D

Dee "Call me U-Haul-the-net" Kay ;-D

P.S.: sorry, for so many mails today, but i think most of them were
worthwhile reading! 8)


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From: Shaun Rader <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) The Beach
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:53:30 -0800 (PST)


--- [e-mail] wrote:
> Well, i happened to accidentially videotape the TV-ad for the Beach,
> and i took the chance of checking out the credits that they show for
> a millisecond at the end by using the pause key, and it quoted All
> Saints and some other bands for the Soundtrack, and Angelo Branduardi

Well at the end of the movie the credits have "Beached" by Angelo and
Orbital in it...

> So i wonder what's all this good for then? Not that I'd be unhappy
> about Orbital not selling out (better: being sold out! 8), i'm just
> wondering!..

Speaking of which, how come we haven't heard of any airplay "Beached"
has been getting?  I think Orbital deserve to be on the radio and make
it big in the US.

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From: Anthony N Gall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) beached/sasha/7samurai
Date: 14 Feb 2000 19:02:07 -0600 (CST)




On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Kurt Foy Booker wrote:

> drugs...  Can I also admit that I finally bought Paul Oakenfields
> Tranceport Vol I yesterday... popped it in the CD player... and fell
> asleep!!  I like trance, I like good mixes... and I don't really sleep that

wow! first person i've met that agrees with me as to the nastiness of
Tranceport. I bought that CD, and it must've been one of the biggest
let-downs in my life. Maybe Oakenfold WAS doing some clever mixing, but I
sure as hell couldn't hear it. Some of the songs were OK, but it sounds so
much more like a compilation than a real DJ Mix. I mean, I've done things
better than this! :)

-Anthony

PS-of course, no offense meant to anyone fond of the CD. just my take on
it ^_^



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Subject: (orbital) mysteRemixes
Date: 14 Feb 2000 18:03:19 -0800 (PST)


Hmm....  I can't vouch for whichever mix you're talking about, but I'm sure
that Mike Paradinas has done a number of remixes of Bjork's stuff.  And I
know that they toured together - I interviewed Mr. Mu when they were at the
Hollywood Palladium.  Don't leave Mark Bell (from the real, warp-based LFO)
out, either - he was touring as part of Bjork's band.  The interview (me,
my mate Matthew Ford, and some other folks) was even in an old issue of
LOOPZ.... (thanks for letting us do that, STEVE!)  One of the people has it
up on his Mu-ziq fan site, I don't know the addy, though.

And Alec Empire also has definitely done some remixes also.  But I don't
get to tell any neato storys about interviewing him.  He scares me 8^)

I'm pretty sure that both of these remixes came from limited edition 3cds +
1 video sets of the song in question, but since I'm far too busy right now
to go download them on my oh-so-fast 28.8 modem, I'll have to leave the
certain verification up to someone else.

resuming lurk mode,
Ryan Randall

>Bjork's All is Full of Love remixed by Mu-Ziq.  But, Bjork has 6 remixes
>of AiFoL, and nothing matchs this one.
>
>Other mystery remixes of Bjork's songs.  I've got remixes from Tricky,
>Photek, and Alec Empire that I can't confirm.




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From: "owo* [:dan ramirez centurion:]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) b[jo_r]k
Date: 14 Feb 2000 23:42:26 -0500


_________b[jo_r]k
_________
_________http://bjork.mmedia.is/pictures/mixed.htm
_________
_________
_________+ enjoy



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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) bjork's place
Date: 15 Feb 2000 03:46:39 +0000


Robert Uglesich wrote:
>
> http://www.salon.com/people/col/reit/2000/02/10/npthurs/index.html

Eh?  I didn't see anything of relevance.

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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Digest of replies...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 04:13:20 +0000


[e-mail] scribbled this on a recycled notepad:
>
> 'stand'!! Pah!
> Actually i quite like the Ray of Light album!.. It's not about 'avoid
> pop at any cost', Brendan! >;-D
> Most of the tracks are REALLY catchy and have a good melody and so
> on!..  I could hardly come up with just 10 (non-Orbital!) albums that
> have THAT many tracks that i really like!..

Well, I said "stand" because I knew I'd get that type of reaction.  I
really like it myself, though Madonna didn't do much to make the music
and she gets all the credit.

> What the hell is THAT then???:
> http://www.ebay.de/static/auction/40/4090/409032/40903266.html

WTF?!  Germany has EBay?!  :)

> I just saw a commercial on German TV (for Arcor Online, just for the
> VERY few germans on the list, if there are any at all! <:-) that
> featured music that sounded ALOT like Aphex!.. Windowlicker-style!
> Either it's someone that took a VERY close listen to Windowlicker or
> it's finally some new track by him!.. While we're speaking of
> it: Anyone knows when Richard's next album is due??

No, but I know that it's going to be one fucked up drug trip!  (Not that
this is a bad thing... :)

Kel pulled this outta his ass:
>
> Eh heh heh heh... the one other thing I hate about some "big name" DJs
> like Sasha are their mix albums... he sequenced the whole thing ahead of
> time using Protools. No two turntables business, all computer-mixed...
> don't mean to kill some peoples's joy, but Sasha + Digweed have both
> done that (on Northern exposure - expeditions, eg). Kind of a shame when
> DJ's think they're above actually being "in the mix" on cd... :(   - KEL

Really, I don't care too much about how they do it, as long as they
aren't just ripping off a song and putting vocals to it, like certain
people in the rap industry.  Part of composing is finding the right
sound and mixing it in a way that produces music, or in this case,
improves the music.

owo used CPUTech technologies to write this:
>
> _________b[jo_r]k
> _________
> _________http://bjork.mmedia.is/pictures/mixed.htm
> _________
> _________
> _________+ enjoy

Ahhh...thank you.  That gives me another idea for my vidwhacked beauty
collection... (Long story.  http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/stories/beauty/
for the interested...)

SineSwiper grated this on the wall:
>
> Eh?  I didn't see anything of relevance.

Hey, wait!  That's me.  Oops...

> > Eh?  I didn't see anything of relevance.
>
> Hey, wait!  That's me.  Oops...
>

Dammit!  Stop that!

> > > Eh?  I didn't see anything of relevance.
> >
> > Hey, wait!  That's me.  Oops...
> >
>
> Dammit!  Stop that!

AHHHHH!  The walls are closing in on me!

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From: "kulsoom a" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Off-topic - sockets
Date: 14 Feb 2000 21:02:49 PST



Anyone on the list know sockets programming enough to help with making a
simple DNS client? Any help will be great as I am starting to freak out and
have no partners in the class.

Thanks
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) The Beach
Date: 14 Feb 2000 19:42:37 EST


In a message dated 00-02-14 18:45:03 EST, you write:

<< Angelo Branduardi  >>



BANDALAMENTE!


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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Badalamente
Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:14:53 -0500


Is the soundtrack for Lost Highway any good?  Badalamente did a lot of
stuff on there too.


-Marc Sawaya



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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Badalamente
Date: 15 Feb 2000 05:49:37 +0000


Marc Sawaya wrote:
>
> Is the soundtrack for Lost Highway any good?  Badalamente did a lot of
> stuff on there too.

Yeah, that was pretty good.  Nice selection of songs by the producer,
Trent Renzor.  Hadn't actually seen the movie yet, though.

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From: "matthew hurtgen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Billy O
Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:32:37 PST


Hey All,

   I am a huge William Orbit fan and I recommend the Torch Song cd Towards
The Unknown Region. It is one of his projects. I promise the last track will
be your new favorite song.

                            Love, Lightfinger

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From: "K Bergstrom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: (OT) Badalamente
Date: 15 Feb 2000 08:35:00 -0800


Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> Is the soundtrack for Lost Highway any good?  Badalamente did a lot of
> stuff on there too.
>
>
> -Marc Sawaya
>

I have it.  I don't particularly like it tho.  The only reason I got the cd
was for the perfect drug in its original form.  If you really want to hear
the Badalamenti tracks, I can see what I can do about ripping them in a
week or two (when I get my cable connection and it won't be a big deal to
send/upload them someplace).

Hmm... as I recall, The Lost Highway soundtrack was Rammstein's
introduction to North America.  Wow.  1996.  That seems like so long ago
(and that's when this soundtrack came out).  Scary.

Oh yeah.  I'd avoid the movie too.  I ended up fast forwarding thru whole
sections of The Lost Highway.  It sucked that bad.  As beavis and butthead
said once (and I said a lot back in 95/96)  "It sucks so much we had to put
it in a box".

Yeah.  I just got up.  How'd ya guess?  ;)

-Kelly


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From: "Mr. Telex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) FTP Site and UK Dance Charts
Date: 15 Feb 2000 07:54:34 GMT


Hey guys !!!

Two things :

1) Marc: I'm having trouble uploading to your site. I've never ran into this
problem before. I'm using Bulletproof as my transfer program. Any ideas ?

2) Anyone read the latest UK Top 20 Dance Singles chart ?
I subscribe to Dotmusic's weekly chart e-mail.

Does anyone know why Numbers 1,2, and 4 are deleted ? Are we going back to
the old Sex Pistols days of censorship or what ?

- Josh

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From: "Trym Asserson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re : (non-orbital) OT: last time in a awhile... looking for track
Date: 15 Feb 2000 16:13:56 GMT


>Maybe I've got the wrong Caffreys ad, but there's one that was on a while
>back, and I saw again a few days back, that has a remix of Rob Dougan's
>"Clubbed to Death" on it. And I saw earlier this evening >that someone's
>put it up on Marc's FTP - dunno which mix it is (there >were 6 or 7 when it
>was out on MoWax, and then it was re-released >with some awful vocals as
>"Furious Angels" with another 20 or 30 >remixes I expect). Have a listen to
>that, Trym, and see if it's the >one.

Thanks Jon,

This was so good. Don't know how many weeks I've been meaning to ask only to
remember when I come home to write the next day, etc. etc., but now I know
anyway. That was the track I was seeking.

While I'm at it, is Clubbed to Death's other material anything like this?
Like the strings and the beat that goes with them.

Cheers all for replying,

Trym "Heading straight off to FOPP to get the 12""

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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) belfunk and other incongruities
Date: 14 Feb 2000 23:24:01 -0700 (MST)


marc sawaya opined:

> Well, I really like the Xpander EP, bought it the first time
> I was able to get to a music store.  Rabbitweed is probably my favourite
> track, but I like Xpander and Belfunk too (I've caught the O Euchari
> sample a couple times), and Baja is calming.  I haven't heard Northern
> Exposure, never really had the inclination to.  I don't think I will
> either.

xpander is okay - rabbitweed is my fave as well. as far as hearing O
Euchari in Belfunk: i'd like to know where you're getting your crack from.
either that, or tell me the precise time into the track, cuz i don't
believe you. do i need some sort of hallucinogen first or something? :)

northern exposure - eastcoast edition is probably my favorite mix cd ever.
it doesn't really sound anything like the stuff sasha does these days - it
was a much more diverse sound then (way back in the day - 1997 or so), and
not even necessarily what i'd call "trance." just really damn good techno.
westcoast is pretty good too, but i'm not all that into expeditions. oh,
and i've yet to hear the original (what's that one like? kel?). the point:
don't dismiss this before hearing it.

okay, i'm going to utter heresy: i don't really like the new "beach"
track. you all realize, of couse, that this is orbital remixing angelo
badalementi's theme? i usually like badalementi's stuff, but that melody
is just way to simple. anyway. i'm sure it's nothing repeated listenings
of mock tudor can't make up for. :)

finally, a couple reviews, just for old time's sake (and to upset
brenden):

plaid - restproof clockwork: i just got this CD the other day, after
suffering through a crappy tape copy for awhile. in a word: asskicking.
the styles are all over the place, but generally it's melodic hip-hop
inflected electrofunk. (i just made that up, i can't really describe it).
there's a bit of mu-ziq and boards of canada and jega and black dog
productions (of course), but it's totally unique as well. if nothing else,
pick it up because orbital likes them - they toured england together last
year.

mouse on mars - vulvaland: despite the vulgar title, this is some
excellent melodic idm. not as bouncy or insane as their recent stuff
(though autoditacker and ninn niggunng or whatever it's called are also
very good), but sounds remarkably fresh considering it's about 6 years
old. sort of like acid-y melodic downtempo experimental or something.

burger/ink - [las vegas]: this is really minimal, low-key house. i like it
alright, but it can get kinda repetitive. if you appreciate simple
textured melodies and relaxed house, you might check this out.

yellow note - yellow note vs. the daleks: i think i'm probably the only
person on earth that likes yellow note. they're your basic two-step nyc
jungle (on liquid sky) with interesting samples over top. i really like
the arrangements, and sometimes i just need these kinds of beats to bop my
head to.

sorry to ramble, i'm just excited about all this list traffic,
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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Try again
Date: 15 Feb 2000 11:27:26 -0500


Yo!

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 00-02-14 18:45:03 EST, you write:
>
> << Angelo Branduardi  >>
>
> BANDALAMENTE!

Badalamenti!


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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) SASHA y MAS!
Date: 15 Feb 2000 11:38:37 EST


Alright, I've had about enough of ranking on Sasha ;-)

Although he's not my favorite, Sasha does some DAMN good mixes. If you go on
Napster and check out some of his mixes from around the world, and not his
album mixes, you'll see that he's much better live. I mean, everyone was
anticipating the "Global Underground: Ibiza" album, and I got it on Napster,
and boy was I glad I didn't get that one imported! On disc one, the last 4
songs are good, but up to that it's like "ummm...come on...move dammit!"
It's just BORING. So, I understand where you all are coming from. There are
some good tracks on the Northern Exposure series compilations with Digweed,
but I (again) don't think I'd pay that much for it. I generally think that
way. For a group like Orbital, hell yeah I'd pay 20 bucks for an import. But
for an f'n DJ, I don't think so. I like the mix albums because most of the
time they are generally good mixes of the best in trance. There are some bad
mixes though, that take too long to get going, and Sasha'a guilty of this in
some cases. Except for the GU: San Francisco which I just love. I like hard,
melodic, uplifting trance too, and the Ibiza album just didn't do it for me.
I think possibly my favorite DJ out there though so far is Paul van Dyk.
He's just not afraid to play the classics, or the new stuff. He just plays
what he wants and on top of that, he composes his own stuff. I hear Nick
Warren is good as well, but I've never heard any of his mixes. Everyone
raves about him though. I want to track down the GU: Budapest album. Now, of
course I have to mention Oakenfold. He seems like more of a corporate DJ. He
plays the hits, and a lot of vocal stuff. I think he just plays whatever is
in style at the time. This is fine for throwing in the stereo and rattling
off at a party :-) (Yes Kel, they love him.) Oakenfold and van Dyk are two
of the most consistent DJs as far as I'm concerned. I want to see van Dyk
live so bad, I might just take a trip to NY and go to Twilo. Anyone know the
age limits, address, etc?

But a year ago, I was totally not into this trance stuff. I was hardcore
into the IDM stuff like Squarepusher, Aphex, Mikey P, etc. I thought trance
was just mindless "Boom Boom Boom" music, and I was basically a ravebasher.
That was until I started really going to the good international nights at
the clubs with some international friends :-) Now I'm addicted to this shit!

Alrighty, if anyone has van Dyk mixes they'd like to share, FTP, AOL IM,
Napster with a T3 connection here :-)

Peace,
Rob


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Subject: Re: (orbital) belfunk and other incongruities
Date: 15 Feb 2000 12:01:13 -0500


Nub wrote:
>
> finally, a couple reviews, just for old time's sake (and to upset
> brenden):

Upset me?  Why?  I like reviews on music.  Gives me more things to
investigate.

> plaid - restproof clockwork: i just got this CD the other day, after
> suffering through a crappy tape copy for awhile. in a word: asskicking.
> the styles are all over the place, but generally it's melodic hip-hop
> inflected electrofunk. (i just made that up, i can't really describe it).
> there's a bit of mu-ziq and boards of canada and jega and black dog
> productions (of course), but it's totally unique as well. if nothing else,
> pick it up because orbital likes them - they toured england together last
> year.

Oh, what I wouldn't pay to see the two of them in concert...

> mouse on mars - vulvaland: despite the vulgar title, this is some
> excellent melodic idm. not as bouncy or insane as their recent stuff
> (though autoditacker and ninn niggunng or whatever it's called are also
> very good), but sounds remarkably fresh considering it's about 6 years
> old. sort of like acid-y melodic downtempo experimental or something.

IDM.  Careful when you toss that term around.  There's really only a few
groups I call IDM.  In any case, I'll check it out.

> burger/ink - [las vegas]: this is really minimal, low-key house. i like it
> alright, but it can get kinda repetitive. if you appreciate simple
> textured melodies and relaxed house, you might check this out.

Ewww...non-progressive house!  You need me to get up pretty early in the
morning to appreciate house, and it has to be rather textured to get me
to buy it.  (Darren Price is a good example.)

> yellow note - yellow note vs. the daleks: i think i'm probably the only
> person on earth that likes yellow note. they're your basic two-step nyc
> jungle (on liquid sky) with interesting samples over top. i really like
> the arrangements, and sometimes i just need these kinds of beats to bop my
> head to.

Hmmmm...I like jungle/D&B, but what is NYC jungle?  What do they do
differently?

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Subject: Re: (orbital) SASHA y MAS!
Date: 15 Feb 2000 12:11:57 -0500


Robert Schultz wrote:
>
> But a year ago, I was totally not into this trance stuff. I was hardcore
> into the IDM stuff like Squarepusher, Aphex, Mikey P, etc. I thought trance
> was just mindless "Boom Boom Boom" music, and I was basically a ravebasher.
> That was until I started really going to the good international nights at
> the clubs with some international friends :-) Now I'm addicted to this shit!

Heh, I was sorta the same way, but I like trance for dancing.  I just
didn't like it for listening in my car, or at home.  It just wasn't
progressive enough.  Now, I'm still cautious about my trance mixes, but
at least I buy a few DJ mix CDs now.  (However, I still prefer a good
beat, which is why I'm more into the goa trance groups like Juno Reactor
and Eat Static.)

Oh, BTW, Squarepusher, Aphex, and Mu-Ziq are D&B artists.  Squarepusher
may go into the acid jazz direction and AT in other bizarre directions,
but D&B fits pretty well.

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From: "Arfie Mansfield" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Try again
Date: 15 Feb 2000 20:16:46 +0000


>> << Angelo Branduardi  >>
>>
>> BANDALAMENTE!
>
>Badalamenti!

    Bacardi!
    Garibaldi!
Does it really matter?

            =-=Arfie=-=


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Try again
Date: 15 Feb 2000 15:26:16 -0500


Arfie Mansfield wrote:
>
> >> << Angelo Branduardi  >>
> >>
> >> BANDALAMENTE!
> >
> >Badalamenti!
>
>         Bacardi!
>         Garibaldi!
> Does it really matter?
>
>                         =-=Arfie=-=

you tell me, Alfie! ;)


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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (OT) Raising a Din
Date: 15 Feb 2000 16:58:12 -0500


Anyone know anything about the artist Din?  I have a kick-ass
trance/house track of theirs on some obscure trance compilation, and
they have a couple albums out.  Has anyone heard of them?

-Marc Sawaya



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From: Sean Granger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Marc's kickass ftp
Date: 15 Feb 2000 19:23:01 -0700


Oh yeah, just a minor note... I have every single Oakenfold Essential Mix ever made.

:)


P.S> And some Paul Van Dyk's too.

>
>> You like William Orbit, eh?  I'll have to send some of my Strange Cargo
>> 2 and 3.  And if you can stand it, maybe even Madonna's Ray of Light
>> (mostly made by WO).
>>
>
>'stand'!! Pah!
>Actually i quite like the Ray of Light album!.. It's not about 'avoid
>pop at any cost', Brendan! >;-D
>Most of the tracks are REALLY catchy and have a good melody and so
>on!..  I could hardly come up with just 10 (non-Orbital!) albums that
>have THAT many tracks that i really like!..
>
>Btw: i found an essential mix by WO recorded from UK radio..
>For those interested: See Oakenfold-offer! >:-)
>
>DeeKay
>
>


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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Marc's kickass ftp
Date: 15 Feb 2000 22:04:18 -0500


Sean Granger wrote:
>
> Oh yeah, just a minor note... I have every single Oakenfold Essential Mix
> ever made.

Everybody's got something.  I got a huge collection of Garbage B-sides.

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From: Sean Granger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Marc's kickass ftp
Date: 15 Feb 2000 20:51:59 -0700


Let's not try and make this into a war... I've seen Garbage 3 times, and have every single they've ever put out... seriously... That was just extremely childish of me, yet I know it, and it's just an example of the things I don't feel like seeing because of a courteous posting I did... I said the things about the Essential Mixes expecting people to ASK ME FOR THEM... and I would gladly send them to whoever wants them. Jesus... what has email come to?



Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper:
>
>Sean Granger wrote:
>>
>> Oh yeah, just a minor note... I have every single Oakenfold Essential Mix
>> ever made.
>
>Everybody's got something.  I got a huge collection of Garbage B-sides.
>
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>Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/)
>
>


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Collections...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 23:03:08 -0500


Sean Granger wrote:
>
> Let's not try and make this into a war... I've seen Garbage 3 times, and
> have every single they've ever put out... seriously... That was just
> extremely childish of me, yet I know it, and it's just an example of the
> things I don't feel like seeing because of a courteous posting I did... I
> said the things about the Essential Mixes expecting people to ASK ME FOR
> THEM... and I would gladly send them to whoever wants them. Jesus... what
> has email come to?

I wasn't trying to start anything.  I was just making a statement.  Got
any Garbage I don't have?  Always looking for more songs.

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From: "e. lanum" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) help from dj's;
Date: 16 Feb 2000 00:52:53 GMT




ok im looking into buying a couple of turntables and a mixer and i hae a
question
whats the difference between belt drive and direct drive tables and will it
make a difference to a beginner such as i?
thanx
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From: "JL Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) (OT) Raising a Din
Date: 15 Feb 2000 21:34:03 -0500



Marc, I am a little familiar with Din -
artists name is Pupka Frey and he's canadian.
back in 95 he released a full length CD called
"decade of the brain" thru Cleopatra records.
very good album if you like retroish trance kind
of feel.. my assessment of it would be somewhere
between Kraftwerk and Orbital, if you could imagine
their unique traits combined...
although there's one track on that CD that could
be mistaken for something like what Neil Young
did if anyone remembers his album "Trans"
hee hee

that's all I got, and you can still find "decade"
last thing I heard Mr. Frey was working with
another group called "Kinder Atom" but this
is kind of a while back (like 2 years) and I knew this
because I had some brief e-mail correspondence
with KA

hope this helps your curiosity?
I can mp3 you a couple of tracks, albeit I just have a tape
of "decade"... i borrowed the CD from a good friend
who had introduced me to him..

Jim J.

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>
> Anyone know anything about the artist Din?  I have a kick-ass
> trance/house track of theirs on some obscure trance compilation, and
> they have a couple albums out.  Has anyone heard of them?
>
> -Marc Sawaya
>



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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Bow to me.
Date: 15 Feb 2000 23:57:51 EST


Hello my people,

Alright, thank me later, but check out this fuckin link.

Copy the link into the "Add:URL" thing in Winamp, and enjoy! It's the fuckin
Orbital: Boots and remixes channel! And they play all Orbital all the time!
See what I do for you guys?!

Here it is: http://216.32.166.87:11090


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From: ".." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) CREAM 2000 on CD
Date: 15 Feb 2000 20:59:40 -0800


Tracklist is follows

01 Halcyon & On & On
02 Dr. Who
03 Countdown + Chime (Big Ben Version)
04 Satan (Demonic Version)
05 The Box?

Its an FM recording Quality is A. I have BCC many of you so you may get
the email twice if you are on the list and you inquired earlier.

Also i have Lords Of Acid 02-03-00 for trade... email me
[e-mail]

Lords of Acid 02.03.00

01 The Most Wonderful Girl (1:36)
02 Rubber Doll (3:12)
03 Do What You Wanna Do (4:10)
04 The Power Is Mine (4:24)
05 Rough Sex (3:54)
06 Let's Get High (3:15)
07 Take Control (3:01)
08 Lover (3:54)
09 Young Boys (4:03)
10 LSD = Truth (4:55)
11 (4:21)
12 Finger Lickin' Good (3:34)
13 You Belong To Me (4:42)
14 Pussy (4:15)
15 I Sit On Acid (original) (2:37)
16 Crablouse (6:09)
17 Band Intro (0:40)
18 Am I sexy? (2:20)
19 Spank My Booty (4:03)
20 Voodoo-U (4:19)




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From: ".." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Marc's kickass ftp
Date: 15 Feb 2000 21:03:24 -0800


Hey now if shirley could do a couple songs with orbital, we'd have #1 singles till death did them part.



Sean Granger wrote:

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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) idm/turntables/lost highway
Date: 15 Feb 2000 22:39:01 -0700 (MST)


oh lord...

> Oh, BTW, Squarepusher, Aphex, and Mu-Ziq are D&B artists.  Squarepusher
> may go into the acid jazz direction and AT in other bizarre directions,
> but D&B fits pretty well.

okay, this is just wrong. far be it for me to contribute to this
classification obsession, but everyone you just listed are IDM. mouse on
mars are IDM, as are plaid, black dog, funkstorung, burger/ink, boards of
canada and countless others out there (even, arguably, orbital). having
lurked on the IDM-list for a while now, i think i know pretty much what
i'm talking about along these lines. i am constantly amazed by the obscure
IDM artists people bring up on that list - stuff i will never own because
it's printed in quantities of < 500 in germany or whatever. anyway.

afx, mike p., sqarepusher, jega, etc, all have elements of dnb, but have
warped it into drill n bass (a term some music reviewer probably patted
himself on the back for coming up with). but since that only reflects one
aspect of their work, i don't think it should be used to classify them.
IDM is a more general and meaningless, but also more appropriate, term.
(fyi, "IDM" was most likely coined by the peeps on the idm hyperreal
mailing list, who originally formed it as an aphex twin list. the name was
intended merely as a reference to the warp "artificial intelligence"
compilations, but has sort of grown beyond what it really stands for.)

>> finally, a couple reviews, just for old time's sake (and to upset
>> brenden):
>
>Upset me?  Why?  I like reviews on music.  Gives me more things to
>investigate.

i can't remember why i wrote that, but it was in response to something
you said - made sense at the time. oh well, nevermind.

right. turntables. i basically know shit about turntables, but i do know
that you want a direct drive. an example is the classic technics 1200s,
which have an interesting system with an axle and a magnet and that's it -
no moving parts. which basically means not much can go wrong with them,
short of the magnet shorting or something getting warped out of shape.
bottom line is they are reliable, and therefore good.

i would also like to throw in my 2 pennies that 'lost highway' isn't my
favorite david lynch film, but it's not so bad. it's a very interesting,
ambitious attempt to direct a non-linear, completely self-contained
reality. basically something only lynch would, or could, do. totally
bizarre stuff, but i think you have to appreciate it on a different level
than "this makes no sense, it sucks."

btw, the best examples of badalementi's work (immfo) are the twin peaks
and straight story soundtracks. you might check those out. they also
happen to be my favorite lynch projects.

orbital rulez d00ds!!

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Subject: Re: (orbital) help from dj's;
Date: 16 Feb 2000 00:04:52 -0600 (CST)




On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, e. lanum wrote:

> ok im looking into buying a couple of turntables and a mixer and i hae a
> question
> whats the difference between belt drive and direct drive tables and will it
> make a difference to a beginner such as i?
> thanx

if you want to DJ, don't get belt drive, they're not made for DJing. get a
direct drive...like someone said before, Technics 1200 are the optimum
choice, but if you can't afford those, might want to get some cheapo
direct drive ones.

-Anthony



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From: "Mr. Telex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Turntables
Date: 16 Feb 2000 06:49:14 GMT


Oh boy; have I learned about this subject the hard way !!!

I have spent ungodly amounts of money on DJ equipment only to be burned
worse than an STD at a cocktail party !

;-P

Here are the rules that I've learned over the past year. FOLLOW THEM VERY
CLOSELY !!!!

1) NEVER BUY BELT DRIVE : Belt-drives are NOT made for scratching. Period.
My first turntable on my home stereo was warped twice because I melted the
belts from super hardcore spinning. Of course home stereos aren't meant for
DJ'ing either.

2) NEVER BUY A CHEAP MIXER : CHECK THOSE FADERS !!!! You need something
silky smooth to do quick cuts with. Kill switches are nice as well. You
really don't need more than two channels unless you're adding CD players
(which I'd buy a separate mixer for anyway) or letting four or five friends
freestyle with mics.

2) NEVER BUY ANYTHING USED: If you do, make sure you check everything just
like if you were buying a car. I had to go back to the shop THREE fucking
times because the owners gave me bunk shit. The platters were wobbly, the
ground screws were missing, etc.

3) NEVER BUT ANYTHING CHEAP: It's a sad rule, but if you want to scratch
like the pros, you have to spend money like the pros. I bought a Gemini
Scracthmaster package brand new out of the box. Two weeks later, they were
already breaking (one of the motors were spinning out of control). I
recommend either Technics 1200's or the new Vestax tables with the super
"no-skip" tone arms.

4) FILL OUT THOSE WARRANTY CARDS: I never used to do this, because I figured
that it was a waste of time. Nevertheless, all of my equipment has either
been damaged or starting to malfunction as a result.

5) NEVER TRY TO MIX A SEVEN INCH: I really got fucked hard on this one; I
ripped apart my rare $10 Double A-Side Promo 45 of Kraftwerk's "Numbers".
Which brings me to my next rule.

6) NEVER MIX ON YOUR GOOD RECORDS: Buy shit that would you never listen to
in your life, just for the purpose of scratching. These are otherwise known
as "dummy records". If you wind up ruining these, it won't matter. If you
attempt to scratch on your favorites, buy an extra two or three copies; two
to scratch on and one to listen to.

7) DON'T BUY COFFINS: You will break your back if you pack all of your stuff
in a coffin to carry to a gig, especially if the handles are on the side and
not in the middle (just call me Igor ;-P). Buy individual flight cases or
boxes. And make sure that you can fit the tables in sideways (this is
standard scratching style).

8) DON'T BUY CHEAP NEEDLES : Enough said. And make sure that your tone arm
is set up right. This will REALLY fuck you up and shred your records if not
done right.

9) NEVER TRY TO BE YOUR OWN REPAIRMAN !!!!!

Well, there you have it. After spending close to $1000 on DJ gear and being
fucked, I've since gotten out of it. I just traded my stuff to a friend for
his old car. I constantly told him that my shit was broken; he said that it
didn't matter and that he could fix it. So I hope that he has good luck with
it.

I've been thinking about maybe doing it again someday, but I'll have to
replace my ruined classics and buy some videos or books next time.

While your at it, check out http://www.turntablism.com

I don't mean to name drop, but if anyone lives near LA or Norwalk, NEVER BUY
FROM SOUND SCAPE !!!!

Hope that this helps.

And if anyone has any tips for me on how to improve (if I decide to get back
into it) , let me know !


GOOD LUCK !!!

- Josh

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From: "Mr. Telex" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Marc's FTP
Date: 16 Feb 2000 07:00:40 GMT


Hey Marc :-)

I was trying to upload into the "Upload" folder and the "Kraftwerk" folder.

- Josh
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From: "matthew hurtgen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Concrete
Date: 15 Feb 2000 23:45:17 PST


Hey does anyone know this group or guy Concrete?
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From: ".." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) CREAM 2000 Artwork.
Date: 15 Feb 2000 21:56:50 -0800


Being as a large volume of you want this show on cd, and i dont have the
time right now, would anyone, (probably cas maybe?  :) ) want to donate
some time and do some nice artwork that i can send out when people trade
for this? The setlist is stated previously and everyone knows the time
date if your not sure just put

Time: Same Bat Time
Location: Same Bat Channel

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From: "kulsoom a" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (Orbital) Need Cas's email
Date: 16 Feb 2000 09:14:18 PST


Sorry to mail this to the list but my email got wiped out and I lost Cas's
email. if anyone has it let me know, or Cas if you are out there write me
back at [e-mail] (This is kulsoom)


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From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) replies...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 22:48:46 -0500


Once upon a letter, Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote:

> Kel pulled this outta his ass:

(along with the flying monkeys)

> Really, I don't care too much about how they do it, as long as they
> aren't just ripping off a song and putting vocals to it, like certain
> people in the rap industry.  Part of composing is finding the right
> sound and mixing it in a way that produces music, or in this case,
> improves the music.

Ah, god bless that Puff Daddy. Everyone take a listen to Richard Morel's
new tune "True (the faggot is you)" and know that that tune for for
Puffy. Love how he tried to bribe his way out of jail too, hell yes...
:) Oh, but my point. Anyone who has turntables and a mixer will tell you
that a lot of care and concentration goes into every mix in every set
and on every tape, and for the "big-name" djs to think that they're
above doing that kind of work when they're making a marketable mix is
closer to slick marketing technique then showcasing of one's turntable
skills. It's just a "dj purist" thing as opposed to "musical quality
purist" thing, I guess... all comes down to where you stand on it :) No
more ass references now, peoples...

I think someone on the list turned to me asking about the first volume
of Northern Exposure?? Nub?? Anyway, I have the single-disc version, and
it's got some really good tunes on it, but lacks overall "punch". Its
sound is a bit dated, but it falls between uplifting and sedative, house
and ambient techno. Most of the more high-minded people on the list will
probably find it "boring." :))) I enjoy it for its overall mood though.
There's also a double-disc version out (0-degree North and 0-degrees
South discs) that I've heard is fantastic.

Ah, here's the letter from Mr. Nub. Where does the "O Euchari" sample
come in on Belfunk?? I have the vinyl so I don't feel like getting a
stopwatch, but it comes in one time. Right after the b-line comes in at
the beginning for a couple measures you hear this highpitched, ethereal
sound before the percussion kicks back in. This is the "o-e-u" bit of
the "o euchari" lyric. Hallucinogenic drugs are nice for listening to
this tune, but not necessary :)
                            KEL
PS: All those who have been swarming over Marc Sawaya's ftp and are
enjoying the MP3 of the Sasha vs The Light remix of "Belfast" have ME to
thank :)))

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From: "Stephen R. Saucier" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) FTP
Date: 16 Feb 2000 19:15:55 -0500


Hmm, I was thinking about being helpful and allowing everybody to access my
mp3s for a little while. If nothing else, this might help take the pressure
off of Marc, who has very graciously allowed us to use his bandwidth. I
could only have it up for about a day though (at least for now) So what do
you think? Is it worth it? I have about 1GB of orbital and about 3GB of
other stuff. Let me know if you are interested.

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From: ".." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Cream 2000 Trading, and other orbital trades...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 17:28:19 -0800


Well it seems ALOT of you don't have much to trade, and i don't really
want to flat out sell you bootlegs because as you know, the hartnolls
are the ones doing the hard work so i created a solution.

If you signup to paypal, not only do you get 10$ for yourself, but i get
10$ if you use my link

https://secure.paypal.com/auction/pal=rainfall%40dimension6.com

Basically signup, i'll get an referall bonus, which will basically cover
all cdr and shipping costs and the cd is basically yours for free. Plus
you'll get 10$ free. Cool? and i'm not really "selling" the shows.  Here
is my orbital list

Orbital 2 CDR xx.xx.93 Birmingham,UK SNDBRD
Orbital X CDR xx.xx.96 Leeds,UK SNDBRD
Orbital X CDR 12.xx.97 San Francisco, CA A(FM)
Orbital 2 Clone 07.04.99 Chicago,IL C+
Orbital 2 CDR 07.10.99 Worcester,MA B-
Orbital 2 CDR 07.16.99 Austin,TX B+
Orbital 2 CDR 07.23.99 San Francisco, CA A+
Orbital 2 CDR xx.xx.99 Brixton, UK B+
Orbital 2 CDR xx.xx.99 V99  B+
Orbital  2 CDR 11.23.96 New Orleans, LA A

X=1 CD 2=2CD.

If you beam your bonus 10$ to me ([e-mail]) i'll also
give you a copy of any other show up there.  I hope this is an
acceptable solution to the problem many of you young traders are having
with boots :)

Sorta works out for everyone

Thx,

Randy

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Subject: (orbital) for some reason i left Orbital         Clone    12.31.99        A off the last list
Date: 16 Feb 2000 17:37:33 -0800


Orbital   Clone 12.31.99  A (cream 2000)





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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) u.s. halcyon on ebay
Date: 16 Feb 2000 20:45:02 -0700 (MST)


i'm not into this sort of thing, but in case anyone is interested, this
was announced on the idm-list today. evidently there's only a couple days
of bidding left...

Orbital: Halcyon US CD-single 5 tracks
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D257185322

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From: "Steven Carver" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) idm & Mouse on Mars
Date: 17 Feb 2000 15:18:46 GMT


mouse on mars are IDM, as are plaid, black dog, funkstorung, burger/ink,
boards of
canada and countless others out there (even, arguably, orbital).

What is this "IDM" you keep banging on about?! Personally I would call Mouse
on Mars "New Kraut Rock" - a term that I saw in an independent record shop
in Manchester, which also covered groups like Autechre. I think if you asked
Mouse on Mars themseleves they would probably say they were "Kein Schublade"
- that is, un-pigeon-holable. ("un-pigeon-holable"?!? Is that a word?) I
mean, you can't put them in a category.

What is the point of all this categorisation anyway? I would say that the
less categorisable (that was probably the word I was looking for before)
music is, the more worthwhile it is to listen to it.

Steve
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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) idm & Mouse on Mars
Date: 17 Feb 2000 10:42:37 -0500


Uh, oh, a freethinker.  Do you want to handle this one, Brendan? = P


-Marc Sawaya

PS- Steven, I totally agree.  IDM stands for Intelligent Dance Music, by the
way.

Steven Carver wrote:

> What is this "IDM" you keep banging on about?!
>
> What is the point of all this categorisation anyway? I would say that the
> less categorisable (that was probably the word I was looking for before)
> music is, the more worthwhile it is to listen to it.
>
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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) beached/sasha/7samurai
Date: 17 Feb 2000 10:06:18 -0700




 Anthony wrote:

[snip]


wow! first person i've met that agrees with me as to the nastiness of
Tranceport. I bought that CD, and it must've been one of the biggest
let-downs in my life. Maybe Oakenfold WAS doing some clever mixing, but
I
sure as hell couldn't hear it. Some of the songs were OK, but it sounds
so
much more like a compilation than a real DJ Mix. I mean, I've done
things
better than this! :)<<<

Your main beef with Tranceport is the mixing, is that correct?
As for the track selection, if you find the music just OK, then you are
wasting your time exploring epic trance.  Tranceport was a virtual
greatest hits comp that well served its purpose of introducing us Yanks
to this music.  For those who respond to it, the music is positively
exhilarating and even mesmerizing.  Even to a died in the wool fan of
Autechre, Black Dog, Aphex, and, yes, Orbital.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Concrete
Date: 17 Feb 2000 17:41:51 +0000


At 23:45 15/02/00 -0800, matthew hurtgen wrote:

>Hey does anyone know this group or guy Concrete?

there's a UK record label called Concrete, an offshoot of DeConstruction.
Dunno if that's who/what you mean.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) HIGHLY recommended Mix!...
Date: 17 Feb 2000 21:41:19 +0000


Since Mixes are THE thing on the list these days as it seems, i
STRONGLY suggest you check out the following one:
Y3K mixed by Hyper
They call it 'progressive breakbeats' and i don't care WHAT it's
called, but it's fucken DAMN good, and ist practically played
non-stop here since the three days i got it now! 8)
You can't really describe it, you'd need to hear it yourselves, it's
basically very bombasic mostly and very varying... Quite a bit of
singing, too and BRILLIANTLY mixed... It's one of these rare mixes
with perfectly matching, yet varying (in style) tracks like X-Mix 1
that you have a REALLY hard time telling where one track ends and a
new one begins! 8)

Go watch out for it! 8)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) contest winners
Date: 17 Feb 2000 19:08:24 EST



The winners have been chosen for a CD of Orbital radio sessions that I ran
two weeks ago.  Deleted the names, but I chose the last three (just
yesterday).  Either nobody wants it or everyone's afraid to take a shot,
thinking it's too late to do it!!

They are:

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

More contests to follow!

Brent Jones
Nashville, TN


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From: "Stephen R. Saucier" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) FTP
Date: 17 Feb 2000 21:38:53 -0500


Alright, I set up my FTP site - I think everything should be working right.
You can reach it at driftwood.2y.net l/p: orbital. I am only going to have
it up for 24 hours right now, but it may be up more in the future.

Have fun.

Steve



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From: "digital matrix" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) important to me
Date: 19 Feb 2000 07:04:09 -0800


Hey this is really important to me if someone finds out this.. I have
MTV's AMP 2 on viynl I won from astralwerks, and I listened to it and it's
pretty cool, but there is something very odd on that record - i figure
it's a seperate song not listed on the listings or the record it self, but
after bang on, the last listed song, there is a song i always here at
clubs and concerts as just... a song the dj usually plays in the begining.
I don't know if it'sthe whole song or aremix of that song, but it sounds
like a distored voice saying something... i think i remember that voice
saying something over and over in the song i heard at the concert, so i
don't know if this is a remix of the song or not... but if someone could
figure out that song i love that's partly on that amp 2 at the end, i'd
really really owe them big...

digital matrix
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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) important to me
Date: 19 Feb 2000 12:02:47 -0500


digital matrix wrote:
>
> Hey this is really important to me if someone finds out this.. I have
> MTV's AMP 2 on viynl I won from astralwerks, and I listened to it and it's
> pretty cool, but there is something very odd on that record - i figure
> it's a seperate song not listed on the listings or the record it self, but
> after bang on, the last listed song, there is a song i always here at
> clubs and concerts as just... a song the dj usually plays in the begining.
> I don't know if it'sthe whole song or aremix of that song, but it sounds
> like a distored voice saying something... i think i remember that voice
> saying something over and over in the song i heard at the concert, so i
> don't know if this is a remix of the song or not... but if someone could
> figure out that song i love that's partly on that amp 2 at the end, i'd
> really really owe them big...

Don't own the CD, but what's the guy saying?  I (and a few others, I'm
sure) probably own the CD where that song came from, since MTV is fully
of popular music.  (In this case, popular techno music.)

--
Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper ([e-mail])
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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) amp 2 track
Date: 19 Feb 2000 14:45:56 -0500


On cddb.com, it lists a track after Bang On as ? by Chemical Brothers,
which is
exactly what I was expecting.  The song you hear could be (wild guess),
hey
girl/hey boy or something to that effect.  The sample goes "hey girls,
hey
boys, superstar djs- here we go!!", and it's incredibly adictive.  I
really
hope I helped you out = ).

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From: chump <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Explain And Quick !
Date: 20 Feb 2000 04:28:26 +0200




  yo.
  ok once again .. watched mtv Chillout Zone ... (Europe) , A new
  orbital clip came up ( last time i saw a new clip was the Dwr Budr
  clip).
  only problem , is that i saw the ending .. and it was halycon (????)
  and in the end they showed a screen with a 2 explanations dictionary
  to the word halycon.
  as far as i remember there were not a halycon video.... and if there
  was .. i don't remember the last screen.
  Steve  -  i am waiting for your answer :)


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From: "matthew hurtgen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) amp 2 extra track
Date: 19 Feb 2000 22:57:38 PST


Hey,
   The extra track on AMP 2 is The Chemical Brothers live with a Piku/
Playground For A Wedgeless Firm mix.
   Now playing is Young American Primitive. What is the deal with Richard D.
Titus and why nothing else? And does anyone know anything about Stepdisk?

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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) intelligent damn music
Date: 20 Feb 2000 16:13:57 -0700 (MST)


steve scribbled illegibly:

> What is the point of all this categorisation anyway? I would say that
> the less categorisable (that was probably the word I was looking for
> before) music is, the more worthwhile it is to listen to it.

that was sort of (kinda, not really) my point... "idm" is a good word to
categorize this kind of music because it's fairly meaningless. the point
is that it's electronic music for listening, as opposed to dancing. not to
say that you can't dance to it, but that's not its primary purpose.
calling mouse on mars "post-kraut-electronic-space-rock" or something
would, to my mind, be more of a pigeon hole.

also, perhaps the main reason why i think "idm" is a legitimate category,
is that there are over a thousand people on the idm-l that have an
amazing, unfathomable knowledge of that "scene," and i am 99.9% certain
that they would call autechre, aphex twin, plaid and mouse on mars "idm."
so in this case it's less a matter of description and/or pigeon-holing,
and more a matter of others understanding what you're talking about.  for
example, i'm sure to somebody out there (not me) "tech-step" and "jump-up"
are two meaningful, distinct categories of dnb. i'm just not knowledgable
enough to really know the difference. someone care to explain the
difference?

...and while you're thanking kel for the sasha v. the light mix of
belfast, thank me for the les rhythmes digitales mix of nothing left. :)
(it may still be in the uploads folder if marc hasn't moved it...
excellent mix!)

whatever,
nub








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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) intelligent damn music
Date: 20 Feb 2000 21:02:17 -0500


Still in upload, yes, and a _great_ track.  I really like it, thanks a bundle,
nub!  Where'd you get it?

Marc

Nub wrote:

> ...and while you're thanking kel for the sasha v. the light mix of
> belfast, thank me for the les rhythmes digitales mix of nothing left. :)
> (it may still be in the uploads folder if marc hasn't moved it...
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From: User <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 22 Feb 2000 01:38:28 -0800


i am sorry this is off topic!

i am not sure how many of you are fans of Dune, not the movie.
i been looking high and low for "dark side of the moon" by Dune
and i can't find it anywhere ! here is a link i found with a sample
of the song http://www.dune.de/new/sounds/mpeg3/darksideofthemoon.mp3
if anyone could please give me a phone # or a url where i can order
new dune stuff please please let me know!

to make this related to Orbital i love playing quake with orbital
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From: aimee couture <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 22 Feb 2000 13:39:21 -0500


i fuckin love dune.. check on www.gemm.com they probably have what you're
looking for. even cdnow.com has some stuff..

mmmm dune *drool*

aimee


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Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:56:09 +0000



> i am sorry this is off topic!
>
> i am not sure how many of you are fans of Dune, not the movie.
> i been looking high and low for "dark side of the moon" by Dune
> and i can't find it anywhere ! here is a link i found with a sample
> of the song http://www.dune.de/new/sounds/mpeg3/darksideofthemoon.mp3
> if anyone could please give me a phone # or a url where i can order
> new dune stuff please please let me know!
>
How can anyone listen to Dune AND Orbital i wonder? <:-) I mean -
Dune is cheap, quickly produced europop-technotrash and orbital ist
one of god's gifts to mankind! 8)

> to make this related to Orbital i love playing quake with orbital
> insides playing in the background :)
>
How can ANYONE play QUAKE with something as beautiful as orbital
(especially in sides!) playing in the back? I mean - Quake, wasn't
that the game that had NiN in the original soundtrack??
How do splatter & gore go hand in hand with Paul & Phil i wonder?

Sorry, this is not a flame, even though it might look like it, i'm
just damn confused and wondering what the justifications are? 8)

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Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:05:20 +0000



>
> i fuckin love dune.. check on www.gemm.com they probably have what you're
> looking for. even cdnow.com has some stuff..
>
> mmmm dune *drool*
>
> aimee

*drool* ? Sorry, are you sure that wasn't that sposed to be *yawn*?
>;-D

I dunno about you non-Euros but we have GAZILLIONS of shit that
sounds 100% like dune (rather the other way around!) playing day in
day out on the radio in most of Europe's countries (except for the
UK apparently! 8), you'll get fed up with it, too, eventually, mark
my words! ;-D

BTW: If anyone's interestedL A friend of mine made some hilarious
Europop-Technotrash parodies, if anyone is interested, i'll post a
link!..

DeeKay

P.S.: I am NOT starting an argument about tastes here, as that's, as
usually, pointless, i am merely wondering why you bring up something
like Dune in a MUSICALLY oriented Mailinglist! 8) I mean - that's
like inviting a stoner to a cocktail party - TOTALLY out of place!
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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:11:17 EST


Damn it Deekay, if you keep making these posts to the list, I'm going to get
in trouble here at work! (from laughing)

DEFINITELY interested in hearing this Eurotrash parody shit.

Oh, Deekay, you going to be at CeBIT?

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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:28:58 -0500


Robert Schultz wrote:
> DEFINITELY interested in hearing this Eurotrash parody shit.

Me too!!! Where is it!

Hi Aimee!

BTW> Trying to get a live BoC that was on idm.
Anyone of you has it yet?
Saw a Autechre thing on Marc's.
Whose is this?
Is this the same VAncouver live that idm is talkin' 'bout?

Shnnn


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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Halcyon Video
Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:09:32 -0000


Dunno if someone has answered this as i have the Digest.

>  ok once again .. watched mtv Chillout Zone ... (Europe) , A new
>  orbital clip came up ( last time i saw a new clip was the Dwr Budr
>  clip).
>  only problem , is that i saw the ending .. and it was halycon (????)
>  and in the end they showed a screen with a 2 explanations dictionary
>  to the word halycon.
>  as far as i remember there were not a halycon video.... and if there
>  was .. i don't remember the last screen.
>  Steve  -  i am waiting for your answer :)

Chump :)

There are 2 Halcyon videos....one is an edit and the other is the full
version (about 9 mins long) and features a certain Orbital vocalist washing
up and hallucinating. Quite a mad video. Btw...>Dwr Budr was not an
offficial Orbital video but i thought it was excellent.

Thanx

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 22 Feb 2000 15:47:16 -0500


> How can ANYONE play QUAKE with something as beautiful as orbital
> (especially in sides!) playing in the back? I mean - Quake, wasn't
> that the game that had NiN in the original soundtrack??
> How do splatter & gore go hand in hand with Paul & Phil i wonder?

That reminds me, one time my friend was playing half-life with Enya playing.
It was truly disturbing.  Really sick stuff, trust me.

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From: "Mehul Parekh I" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) mark saways's server
Date: 22 Feb 2000 15:03:56 -0600


what is mark sawaya's server addy?
u/p is also good.
Mehul Parekh I


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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) les rhythmes digitales
Date: 22 Feb 2000 14:31:13 -0700 (MST)


> Still in upload, yes, and a _great_ track.  I really like it, thanks a
> bundle, nub!  Where'd you get it?
>
> Marc

heheheh, trade secrets...

yeah right, i got it on napster. :P (haven't seen it since, though...)

np: boards of canada, some really awesome live mp3
nd: bass ale (at 2:30pm in my office at school - hell yeah!)

-nub

ps. good to see shannon+on+on on the idm-l yesterday! did you just join?
did anyone reply to your post? i know there's a few closeted orbitalhedz
on there, but i think many still consider them too "commercial" (since we
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Subject: (orbital) Eurotrash Parodies...
Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:52:18 +0000


Okay, the tracks are up, everyone interested in having a good laugh
go to
http://www.koolex.net/deekay/

and grab the tracks! 8)

Make sure to take notice of the lyrics, they're awesome, he put great
effort in it so that they make as little sense as possible! 8)
About the part with 'taking the bus': He said that this is actually a
parody of the Eurotrash groups'fancy for changing the subject right
in the middle of the lyrics! 8)

Some story behind this: The dude who made this is a 19 year old,
hellafunny guy and good friend of mine from Sweden who knows a
fucking lot about music even though he's rather young... Sometimes i
think he knows EVERY one of the 12.000 c64-SID-tunes collected in the
HVSC (hvsc.c64.org for those interested!) and he's a great fan of
Herbie Hancock (that's meant as a sign of musical competence! 8)

He never takes anything serious though, i've had a good deal of fun
with him on IRC, and he likes to make fun of things, in this case
the super-cheap Euro-Trash!

some side-info:
He played the 'girl of my dreams' track on some Gig he was DJing or
something, and reported the most funny stories of how ppl responded
to it! 8) Can you imagine what it's like when a 15-year old girl
walks up to when you're taking a walk through the plain fields and
asks you for an autograph cause she really TOOK that shit serious? 8)
That should tell you all about the conditioning that mainstream music
performs with people! >;-D

And yes, he likes Orbital alot! 8)

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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Eurotrash Parodies...
Date: 22 Feb 2000 15:09:33 -0700


I could only unzip the second parody.  Winzip is telling me the first
file is corrupted.  I downloaded it twice, same result.  Second one is
funny.  Sounds like Aqua.

>>> <[e-mail]> 02/22/00 03:52PM >>>

Okay, the tracks are up, everyone interested in having a good laugh
go to
http://www.koolex.net/deekay/

and grab the tracks! 8)

Make sure to take notice of the lyrics, they're awesome, he put great
effort in it so that they make as little sense as possible! 8)
About the part with 'taking the bus': He said that this is actually a
parody of the Eurotrash groups'fancy for changing the subject right
in the middle of the lyrics! 8)

Some story behind this: The dude who made this is a 19 year old,
hellafunny guy and good friend of mine from Sweden who knows a
fucking lot about music even though he's rather young... Sometimes i
think he knows EVERY one of the 12.000 c64-SID-tunes collected in the
HVSC (hvsc.c64.org for those interested!) and he's a great fan of
Herbie Hancock (that's meant as a sign of musical competence! 8)

He never takes anything serious though, i've had a good deal of fun
with him on IRC, and he likes to make fun of things, in this case
the super-cheap Euro-Trash!

some side-info:
He played the 'girl of my dreams' track on some Gig he was DJing or
something, and reported the most funny stories of how ppl responded
to it! 8) Can you imagine what it's like when a 15-year old girl
walks up to when you're taking a walk through the plain fields and
asks you for an autograph cause she really TOOK that shit serious? 8)
That should tell you all about the conditioning that mainstream music
performs with people! >;-D

And yes, he likes Orbital alot! 8)

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Date: 22 Feb 2000 23:33:20 +0000




> I could only unzip the second parody.  Winzip is telling me the first
> file is corrupted.  I downloaded it twice, same result.  Second one is
> funny.  Sounds like Aqua.

Okay, i noticed the filesize is different!..
I'm just re-upping it, stay tuned!...
I'll be up in 10 minutes!

DeeKay, dancing on the dancefloor... 8)


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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 22 Feb 2000 18:31:51 -0500


You know, Dune seems to come up here once every 6 months or so. I have
there first 4 albums, but then last year I bought their single Keep the
Secret or something and it sucked and I gave up on them. They are
definitly not a complex band - their new single (thanks for the link!)
sounds just like their old stuff. JUST LIKE IT. But, it is so cheesy
that I love it! I bought all of their CDs off some site that I thought
was called CDBONZAI but I can't seem to find it anymore. Hmmm... Then I
went to Japan and could see their stuff in every store. Stupid American
selctions... Anyway, IF anyone finds it, tell me!

    Anyway, something else unrelated. I am looking for MP3s, mainly of
JPOP. I can't seem to get that Napster thing to work right on my
computer, so if anyone can either help me or tell me a link of where to
find and JPOP MP3s I will totally love you. Thanks so much. Later.
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From: "Nick King" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) les rhythmes digitales
Date: 22 Feb 2000 23:43:36 -0000


Wasn't it on that free Mixmag CD that came out last year mixed by Pete
Tong?? I have a feeling that the Sasha mix of Belfast was on that as well,
but I could be wrong (I don't have that CD with me at the moment)...


Nick ;-)

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> Still in upload, yes, and a _great_ track.  I really like it, thanks a
> bundle, nub!  Where'd you get it?
>
> Marc

heheheh, trade secrets...

yeah right, i got it on napster. :P (haven't seen it since, though...)



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Paul Oakenfold Project finished!....
Date: 23 Feb 2000 02:42:17 +0000


Okay, it was quite some work but now the bootlegs are up there!..
It was all the stuff that was there except for Tranceport, which i
figured you guys already had anyway!..

1.87 GB of mainly bootlegs all for your leeching pleasure! 8)
All checked, the cut-off ones were overwritten and should be okay now
(if they're not they were fucked in the original!)

Don't thank me only, also give props to Marc for hosting it! Dudes,
That guy deleted Unreal Tournament for this! ;-D

Marc, if you could clean up the mess a little, like moving the stuff
to a separate dir, and give the filenames a bit more consistency?
(Don't forget the ones that DON'T start with paul_oakenfold*!)

Have fun, hope you enjoy it! (You better do for all the work we've
had! >:-)

Now, Marc, i wonder who's ruling the upload stats! ;-DD

DeeKay the data-mover

P.S.: not that i'd expect it (i still stick to what i said! ;-D, but
if someone is REALLY happy about this, feel free to send me some CDRs
with the stuff on it! <:-) I'm just a poor dialup-pay-per-minute
german with ISDN... *weep*
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From: chump <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) http://lyst.org/Crap/California.html
Date: 23 Feb 2000 04:10:00 +0200



  check it out :

  http://lyst.org/Crap/California.html


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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Box remix
Date: 23 Feb 2000 12:44:57 -0500


Hey, I have this remix of the box, and I have no idea who did it or
where I got it.  It's in my Orbital dir., remix folder, and it's called
k box 112, so if you guys want to try to identify it, that would be
cool.  It's only about 1 min.

Marc



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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 23 Feb 2000 21:48:00 +0000


AJ Brustein wrote:
>
> Secret or something and it sucked and I gave up on them. They are
> definitly not a complex band - their new single (thanks for the link!)
> sounds just like their old stuff. JUST LIKE IT. But, it is so cheesy
> that I love it! I bought all of their CDs off some site that I thought

And this is coming from a big Moby fan, huh? :)

Sorry.  I'll shut up now before I start another big argument :P

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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) les rhythmes digitales
Date: 23 Feb 2000 21:49:12 +0000


Nick King wrote:
>
> Wasn't it on that free Mixmag CD that came out last year mixed by Pete
> Tong?? I have a feeling that the Sasha mix of Belfast was on that as well,
> but I could be wrong (I don't have that CD with me at the moment)...

Yes, album names would be nice.  I like to put complete ID3 tags on my
MP3s.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) http://lyst.org/Crap/California.html
Date: 23 Feb 2000 22:00:30 +0000


chump wrote:
>
>   check it out :
>
>   http://lyst.org/Crap/California.html

Is there anything of yours that we can keep as a momento of this visit?
Take California.

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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) ot: dune
Date: 23 Feb 2000 21:38:25 -0500


Brendan, even though I can't stand the Grammy's, you still have
20mintues to tune it till Moby comes on to give the rap or hiphop award
(and be nominated for 2 others). But, I don't see any connection between
Moby and Dune... We all have our own tastes though, right? At least we
al love Orbital. Anyway, no more fighting from me. I turned over a new
leaf. Later.
AJ


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Subject: Re: (orbital) les rhythmes digitales
Date: 24 Feb 2000 17:21:16 -0500


Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote:
...
> > Wasn't it on that free Mixmag CD that came out last year mixed by Pete
> > Tong?? I have a feeling that the Sasha mix of Belfast was on that as well,
> > but I could be wrong (I don't have that CD with me at the moment)...
>
> Yes, album names would be nice.  I like to put complete ID3 tags on my
> MP3s.

The original source of the tune was a vinyl promo double-pack that had a
limited run (I think 2000 copies) in the fall of '99. Catalogue number
is ESPDJ010 and it's out on FFRR. Tracklisting is A) "Belfast" Sasha vs
The Light Remix; B) "Nothing Left" Les Rhythmes Digitales Remix; C)
"Nothing Left" Breeder Remix; D) "Nothing Left" Pariah Remix. If you
want an album name, you can say "Orbital" because that's the only thing
it's got written on. God knows if it was on a Tong mix too; Pete Tong
plays fuck all these days. He really does look like a fish, too (as a
Mixmag poll revealed this summer) :)

- KEL

PS: Everyone who sent me suggestions for DJ names, thanks, but I'm
sticking with DJ Kel :))) Not to shove it in anyone's faces, ya know.
I'm gonna put a mix of mine online someday soon for all yall, so stay
tuned...

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Subject: Re: (orbital) les rhythmes digitales
Date: 25 Feb 2000 01:30:05 +0000



>
> Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper wrote:
> ...
> > > Wasn't it on that free Mixmag CD that came out last year mixed by Pete
> > > Tong?? I have a feeling that the Sasha mix of Belfast was on that as well,
> > > but I could be wrong (I don't have that CD with me at the moment)...
> >
> > Yes, album names would be nice.  I like to put complete ID3 tags on my
> > MP3s.
>
> The original source of the tune was a vinyl promo double-pack that had a
> limited run (I think 2000 copies) in the fall of '99. Catalogue number
> is ESPDJ010 and it's out on FFRR. Tracklisting is A) "Belfast" Sasha vs
> The Light Remix; B) "Nothing Left" Les Rhythmes Digitales Remix; C)
> "Nothing Left" Breeder Remix; D) "Nothing Left" Pariah Remix. If you
> want an album name, you can say "Orbital" because that's the only thing
> it's got written on. God knows if it was on a Tong mix too; Pete Tong
> plays fuck all these days. He really does look like a fish, too (as a
> Mixmag poll revealed this summer) :)
>
> - KEL

Actually it FIRST appeared on the Nothing Left DJ Promo, that was
supposedly even more limited! 8)
It was listed on Loopz since the Nothing Left EPs were fist
released...

DeeKay


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From: "matt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) rare mp3's
Date: 24 Feb 2000 21:17:17 -0500


does anyone have any rare orbital mp3's?(omen, b-sides...old
stuff,etc.)...my school's server banned napster...and i can't find anywhere
near as good...if anyone could send them(all i've got is icq...so i guess
that's the only way to send them)...i'd be most grateful


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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joona_P=F6yh=F6nen?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Marc's ftp-server?
Date: 25 Feb 2000 08:04:56 +0200


I lost the address, can someone help me out a little?
thanks

-joona



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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) My FTP.  Seriously folks.
Date: 25 Feb 2000 01:29:26 -0500


How many times have I posted this?  Apocrypha.res.wpi.net, l/p:
orbital.  remember that. = )

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) My ftp (again)
Date: 25 Feb 2000 19:27:19 -0500


Hey guys, my ftp is going to be down for the greater part of this
weekend, sorry.  Major computer refurbishings, so I'll let you know when
it's back up.  Hopefully this way I'll be able to keep the Oakenfold up
longer, because it is totally eating my resources.  We apologize for the
inconvience.


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From: ".." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) CREAM and oakenfold.
Date: 25 Feb 2000 20:03:26 -0800


All of you i owe cream and other shows too, I'm waiting for deekay to
finish the inside and disc covers i have the cds all burned(i dont wanna
send you a blank cdr when you can have a cool collectible) so it'll be
2-3 days.  Any other show any of you traded off me is going out
tomorrow. Farki Your package was reshipped tuesday regisered mail. my
public apologies.

Anyhow on the lighter side...

Paul Oakenfold, April 3rd, DV8(500 people max club?) In Seattle.  How
long will this set be most likely? i want to tape it.  And whose this
Dave Ralph fella? Worth taping? How long is his set.

Funny thing is the DV8 is like the bastard club of seattle. Its like you
play there if you suck or your name is luscious jackson. It's odd that
oakenfold is playing there.  Probably doesn't know its rep.  Or doesn't
care, or maybe thats his kinda thing.

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Subject: (orbital) Okay, I lied.
Date: 26 Feb 2000 03:00:27 -0500


My server's back up now.  Have a blast.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) K Box
Date: 26 Feb 2000 21:27:25 -0000


I have this as a XM file i think...i definatly had it once. Its an
unauthorised remix of The Box and if i remember right.. didnt sound too bad.
Dont know what the actual remix name was called though.

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Hey, I have this remix of the box, and I have no idea who did it or
where I got it.  It's in my Orbital dir., remix folder, and it's called
k box 112, so if you guys want to try to identify it, that would be
cool.  It's only about 1 min.

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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) DV8
Date: 27 Feb 2000 22:16:33 +0000


".." wrote:
>
> Paul Oakenfold, April 3rd, DV8(500 people max club?) In Seattle.  How
> long will this set be most likely? i want to tape it.  And whose this
> Dave Ralph fella? Worth taping? How long is his set.
>
> Funny thing is the DV8 is like the bastard club of seattle. Its like you
> play there if you suck or your name is luscious jackson. It's odd that
> oakenfold is playing there.  Probably doesn't know its rep.  Or doesn't
> care, or maybe thats his kinda thing.

I don't like Seattle's scene already.  A club is just a place.  I've
been in warehouses worse than any club.

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Subject: (orbital) Loopz - Beached release this monday / chat room online - W is back on Undernet
Date: 26 Feb 2000 23:10:28 +0000 (GMT)


http://www.loopz.co.uk

The "BEACHED" single will be released on Monday 28th
February 2000.
There is now a BEACHED page within the EP/SINGLES
(DISCOG) section.
Details of the two promos and information on the
general release can be
found here. As a special treat there is mp3 samples of
"Beached" and
"Doctor Look Out" for your listening pleasure.

The ORBITAL Chat room on the Undernet is back up and
running. You can
access this using IRC software or using a special JAVA
page on the site.
This page will give instructions on how to CHAT ONLINE
via the LOOPZ
website. Those who use the forums might want to try
the CHAT facility as
well. If you see the user LOOPZ then you might end up
talking to me :)

FULL Updates from the site is shown below :-
"Chat page created - Using a special Java applet you
can now chat in
the Official Orbital channel on the Undernet via the
website. There is
a link to the chat room in the forum and misc section.
Hopefully we
can get more people into the chat area using this
method - please
feel free to email me on your thoughts."

"DISCOG pages updated - Beached page created."

"Beached page - General release Cd cover added."
"Beached page - Promo Cd cover added."
"Beached page - Promo 12 Inch Cd cover added. "
"Beached page - Mp3 samples of "Beached" and "Doctor
Look Out"
added"

Sign the guestbook...

Steve LOOPZ Price
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Subject: Re: (orbital) K Box
Date: 28 Feb 2000 00:13:51 +0000


I can't grab it right now, but i think i found this somewhere else
already and i *think* it was the version referred to formerly as the
"breadbox mix" (yeah, go go breadbox! btw: if you guys ever heard the
track zombie nation gy kraftwerk 400 (actually the track itself is
rather lame!): The main hook was done with a c64-breadbox! ;-D

DeeKay

> I have this as a XM file i think...i definatly had it once. Its an
> unauthorised remix of The Box and if i remember right.. didnt sound too bad.
> Dont know what the actual remix name was called though.
>
> Steve LOOPZ Price

> Hey, I have this remix of the box, and I have no idea who did it or
> where I got it.  It's in my Orbital dir., remix folder, and it's called
> k box 112, so if you guys want to try to identify it, that would be
> cool.  It's only about 1 min.
>
> Marc
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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) DV8
Date: 28 Feb 2000 03:13:06 +0000


".." wrote:
>
> Dude if you'd ever been to DV8 you'd understand what i mean. Its an 18 and
> over club with no alchohol and 90% of the people there are gangbangers and
> hoodrats.   That's why it sucks

One, people should get used to the 18+ thing.  Nobody likes a bunch of
9th graders running around their bar.  Two, alcohol and dancing is
stupid.  There's only one thing to drink: water.  Three, I'm sure
there's only bad people because nobody goes there any more.  I'm applaud
Oakenfield for trying to promote a good club with a bad rep.  That's how
rave scenes get restarted in cities with little activity.

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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) DV8
Date: 28 Feb 2000 01:06:14 EST


Alright Brendan (and all),

One: Telling people that dancing and alcohol don't mix is like denying the
existance of an entire culture. (ie. Europeans)

Two: People who just got into trance (and trance compilations) shouldn't
pass judgement on the scene for a little while, at least.

Three: Oakenfold can do whatever the fuck he wants. He's Oakenfold.

Four: Expect drum n' Bass that night. Call it a hunch...

Five: Where the fuck is van Dyk!? He needs to be in Boston RIGHT NOW!

Peace,
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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) DV8
Date: 28 Feb 2000 06:32:18 +0000


Robert Schultz wrote:
>
> One: Telling people that dancing and alcohol don't mix is like denying the
> existance of an entire culture. (ie. Europeans)

It's simple body chemistry.  Drinking alcohol has a bad effect on you
when you dance (ie: dehydrastion).

> Two: People who just got into trance (and trance compilations) shouldn't
> pass judgement on the scene for a little while, at least.

Who said I just got into trance?  I've been raving for quite some time.
I generally don't buy too many trance CDs, but I listen to it a lot.

> Three: Oakenfold can do whatever the fuck he wants. He's Oakenfold.

My point exactly.  Some people follow his lead, though...

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Y3K now on Marc's server!..
Date: 28 Feb 2000 19:17:38 +0000


Remember that Y3K mix i talked about that i liked so much?
Well, since you dudes will prolly have a hard time finding this thing
in the shops as it's pretty low quantity underground stuff, i upped
it on Marc's server for all your listening pleasure! 8)
I hope atleast some of you like it as much as i do! If you do, drop
me a mail 8) (reply count for the Oakenfold work: 1 <:-( !

Marc, please move it out of the Oakenfold dir if possible!.. Enjoy!
8)

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From: Brian Willoughby <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Seattle venues - Re: DV8
Date: 28 Feb 2000 15:56:24 -0800


[  > Dude if you'd ever been to DV8 you'd understand what i mean. Its an 18 and
[  > over club with no alchohol and 90% of the people there are gangbangers and
[  > hoodrats.   That's why it sucks
[
[  One, people should get used to the 18+ thing.  Nobody likes a
[  bunch of 9th graders running around their bar.  Two, alcohol and
[  dancing is stupid.  There's only one thing to drink: water.

Where do you live, Brendan?  You don't seem to know very much about Seattle.

I have noticed that any techno club that doesn't serve alcohol gets shut down
pretty quickly.  I think that Mark Sidran and other Seattle City Council
members have something against all-ages venues that play any kind of techno.
Of course, some kid shot a fellow partier in the alley behind an otherwise nice
"rave" - so perhaps they're reacting to this sort of tragedy.

I'm surprised that DV8 survives without serving alcohol.  Maybe it's the 18+
ID check that saves them from the guillotine.

Personally, I can completely do without the alcohol.  Water helps, alcohol
dehydrates - what a stupid thing to drink in a hot club!  I wouldn't miss the
alcohol if some all-ages venues opened in Seattle, but it seems like there is
no chance for the under-drinking-age to hear good music unless they buy it
themselves and listen at home.

[  Three, I'm sure there's only bad people because nobody goes there
[  any more.

If nobody goes there anymore, it's prolly 'cause they don't seem to advertise!

I think the 18+ would be better as 16+ (I don't have anything against
high-schoolers)  I was getting into clubs at that age as part of the band's
"crew" and I managed to stay away from the alcohol and enjoy the music.

[  I'm applaud Oakenfield for trying to promote a good club with a
[  bad rep.  That's how rave scenes get restarted in cities with
[  little activity.

Orbital played at a seemingly abandoned train station when they appeared in
Seattle.  Whoever arranged that gig was pretty smart (although the acoustics
were too boomy).

Brian


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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) FTP Sites
Date: 29 Feb 2000 11:35:39 EST


Hey all,

Listen, this is wicked off topic (sorry for the Boston expression)...

I'm introducing a friend of mine to FTP sites. The problem is that I need to
find some sites that have the music she's looking for. She's looking for
sites with Ani Difranco, Sarah Mchoweveryouspellhername, Indigo Girls, and
other "chick music." LOL

Can anyone direct me to some sites that do not require any freakin' ratios!?
I really appreciate it :-)

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From: "Ryan Downs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Back from London
Date: 29 Feb 2000 10:30:14 PST


Well, I just got back from London, and I had a blast! I went to a few clubs,
and I was impressed. I tried to get into The End on Friday night, but I
didn't have ID (as I was under 18) and they wouldn't let me and my friend
in. As we were heading back to the Tube, we spotted the Bar Rumba, and we
were let in, no questions asked! It was cool. Norman Jay (I think) was
spinning, and it was a lot of fun. The next night they wouldn't let me into
the Bar Rumba cuz I didn't have boots, so I asked the bouncer if there was
another club nearby, and he suggested Wag. My friends and I went, and had a
blast. At first I couldn't get into the music too well, cuz it was a lot of
60's stuff, but we went back downstairs (as we had been upstairs) and they
were playing some more "danceable" stuff (as far as I was concerned :~)
Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone cares, but London, just in those two clubs
alone, kicks the ass of the club scene around where I live.

Peace Out,
-Ryan
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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) {off} Grammys
Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:47:34 -0500


Hey  I meant to mention this a few days ago...

?Did anybody catch the Afro-Cuban Allstars with lead singer Ibrahim
Ferrer?!! This guy is like 90 something and JAMMING!

If you kids haven't seen Ry Cooder's movie "Buena Vista Social Club",
I highly recommend it. It's on video so you can even rent it in
KnoXville!!

Anyway, the movie translates all the songs and they have tons of footage
of the Afro-Cuban Allstars playing and being interviewed in Havana. The
other really cool guy in the movie is the pianist, Rueben Gonzalez. He
was REALLY REALLY old and I noticed he was not on the Grammys thing. I
think he's passed on to ages, but his solo disc from a couple of years
ago is GREAT! Get it! PAY FULL Price! and get the Afro-Cuban AllStars'
disc too.

[As Appollo 440 says] "!Goin' to Miami!" {Carrera Rapida!}
I'm off to F-L-A manyana for a printmaker's conference and mid 80's!
Too bad it's not a month later though, as I've been getting all this
news from Astralwerks about the Winter Music Conference. Astral is
sponsoring Fat Boy and a bunch of others at a club called Level and I
think there's stuff like this all over town that week.

Oh well...
Might just have to go back in APRIL!!!

Cas, Mehul, Ian ...
A few more days, please!

ShannON + ON + ON H-i-S Way to F-L-A ! ! !
                    with THE Dawn!

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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) FTP Sites (2)
Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:49:57 EST


Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I attend Northeastern University in
Boston, ground zero of Napster (invented in Smith Hall, Hemenway Street!!).
The whole reason why I'm introducing her to FTPing is because they f'n
blocked Napster from my school. I'd bounce off the MIT server (I know people
that work the T3 over there), but I know she'll be all scared to do that and
stuff. Hell, I'm a little scared to do that. To lose my network connection
would suck major ass, and lots of it. Don't want to risk that, now do I? :-)

Later,
Rob

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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) {off} Grammys
Date: 29 Feb 2000 11:55:20 -0700


Shannon noted:

>>> [snip]
If you kids haven't seen Ry Cooder's movie "Buena Vista Social Club",
I highly recommend it. It's on video so you can even rent it in
KnoXville!!

Anyway, the movie translates all the songs and they have tons of
footage
of the Afro-Cuban Allstars playing and being interviewed in Havana.
The
other really cool guy in the movie is the pianist, Rueben Gonzalez. He
was REALLY REALLY old and I noticed he was not on the Grammys thing. I
think he's passed on to ages, but his solo disc from a couple of years
ago is GREAT! Get it! PAY FULL Price! and get the Afro-Cuban AllStars'
disc too.<<<

I want to second this recommendation strongly, but urge you to see and
hear this film on DVD or in the theater if possible.  The sound is
extraordinary, and the color cinematography superb.  Directed by former
new wave German director Wim Wenders.
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From: aimee couture <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) FTP Sites (2)
Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:55:59 -0500


rob:
yeah getting caught doing that would kinda suck..
however if northeastern's anything like here [university of western
ontario].. they'd drag you into its, make you apologize and you'd have your
access back in a week.

i should know, i work for the university here as a residence network
consultant ;]

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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 12:05:20 -0700 (MST)


> Paul Oakenfold, April 3rd, DV8(500 people max club?) In Seattle.  How
> long will this set be most likely? i want to tape it.  And whose this
> Dave Ralph fella? Worth taping? How long is his set.

as i recall, dave ralph was on for an hour and a half, and oakey was on
for over two hours. ralph is evidently an up-and-coming trance dj - he's
responsible for tranceport II. he was very good - pounding, relentless,
not as uplifting as a typical oaky track, but the crowd loved him.
oakey was great, of course.

as for the venue, for some reason they're booking some strange places for
this tour. when i saw them in denver it was at the ogden, this sort of
seedy old theatre where GWAR was playing the next week. so there you have
it.

> It's simple body chemistry.  Drinking alcohol has a bad effect on you
> when you dance (ie: dehydrastion).

whatever dude. given a club where my options are alcohol vs. sober, i'll
take a couple long islands any day. AND dance my ass off, so there. no
it's not healthy, but neither is staying up til 7am.

marc, dammit, i can't get onto your ftp! p/l = orbital/orbital, yes?

take it easy,
nub

ps. anyone into cut-up dnb/drill n bass a la mike paradinas should check
out hrvatski. they've got a page up at mp3.com. interesting stuff.

pps. anyone have an opinion on nick warren? he's coming to a small club in
boulder in march. sounded interesting...




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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Coldcut & Friends...
Date: 29 Feb 2000 21:11:40 +0000


Anybody know where I can find any of Coldcut's friends, like Outer
Bongolia and DJ Lord Fader, on CD?  I can't find record of their names
anywhere, American or British sites.

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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re:
Date: 29 Feb 2000 21:16:30 +0000


Nub wrote:
>
> > It's simple body chemistry.  Drinking alcohol has a bad effect on you
> > when you dance (ie: dehydrastion).
>
> whatever dude. given a club where my options are alcohol vs. sober, i'll
> take a couple long islands any day. AND dance my ass off, so there. no
> it's not healthy, but neither is staying up til 7am.

That's why you take drugs, my friend.  There a plenty of drugs that are
better for you for dancing, and yes, they do dehydrate, but I'd rather
trip my ass off and dance hard, than get drunk and dance like a fucking
sea-sick crab.


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Back from London
Date: 01 Mar 2000 02:43:20 +0000


> From:          "Ryan Downs" <[e-mail]>

> Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone cares, but London, just in those two clubs
> alone, kicks the ass of the club scene around where I live.
>

IMHO London kicks ANYTHINGS butt musical-wise! 8) I've been to a few
places, but i have yet to see something that even comes close to
London (or England generally for that matter!) as the ULTIMATE
spawning pool for musical styles, new bands, great club culture and
musical talents! 8)
Fucken amazed what these Brits always come up with, please do keep in
mind that our beloved Orbital was named after an important part in
London's Techno-Subculture and that they got big in London first! ;-D

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Re:
Date: 01 Mar 2000 02:43:21 +0000


> That's why you take drugs, my friend.  There a plenty of drugs that are
> better for you for dancing, and yes, they do dehydrate, but I'd rather
> trip my ass off and dance hard, than get drunk and dance like a fucking
> sea-sick crab.
>

Naaah! 8)

Anything that doesn't grow on the fields sucks IMHO! 8) Cocaine left
aside, hehe...
I dunno why Techno and rave always have to be associated with
chemical drugs, i mean i've lived through a fun 7 years of Techno now
without taking any pill or trip now and it's been great, too! And
i have wuite some friends that think like this, too! ;-D Maybe i
can't dance till i faint (though i have been known to do that, too
sometimes, even WITHOUT drugs! 8)  but afterall it's for the music
and the love to it, so drugs are not a MUST!... I tolerate though
that ppl do take 'em.... or rather feel the necessity to do so!

The Shamen: "Entertainment starts with an e"? - i don't fucking think
so, not necessarily...! >;-D

For example that BT Hybrid track (is that Brian Transeau?) from Y3K
that's playing just now is SHEER fucking PLEASURE! 8) One time the
Loveparade's motto was "Music is the only drug" - well, it certainly
isn't the ONLY one, and the sentence sounds pathetic, but i still
would subscribe to that!..

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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Drugs...
Date: 01 Mar 2000 02:08:12 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Naaah! 8)
>
> Anything that doesn't grow on the fields sucks IMHO! 8) Cocaine left
> aside, hehe...

Yeah, uh-huh.  Let's leave out caffiene-related drug: cocaine.  I'm not
one to use cocaine, but I wouldn't completely discount it, either.  Like
it or not, you take chemical drugs every day: caffiene, asprin, every
chemical your brain and body puts out.

Besides, what's the difference between hemp and other "illegal drugs"?

> I dunno why Techno and rave always have to be associated with
> chemical drugs, i mean i've lived through a fun 7 years of Techno now
> without taking any pill or trip now and it's been great, too! And
> i have wuite some friends that think like this, too! ;-D Maybe i
> can't dance till i faint (though i have been known to do that, too
> sometimes, even WITHOUT drugs! 8)  but afterall it's for the music
> and the love to it, so drugs are not a MUST!... I tolerate though
> that ppl do take 'em.... or rather feel the necessity to do so!

Man, what is up with that straightedge motto?  NOBODY FEELS THAT WAY!  I
only take drugs on occasion.  I like dancing and partying.  Drugs aren't
the root of all evil.  They are just something to do when you feel like
it.

> The Shamen: "Entertainment starts with an e"? - i don't fucking think
> so, not necessarily...! >;-D
>
> For example that BT Hybrid track (is that Brian Transeau?) from Y3K
> that's playing just now is SHEER fucking PLEASURE! 8) One time the
> Loveparade's motto was "Music is the only drug" - well, it certainly
> isn't the ONLY one, and the sentence sounds pathetic, but i still
> would subscribe to that!..

I get high off of all kinds of things, including drugs and music.  Me
listening to Orbital's GSH gives me a high, just like taking a hit of
acid.  (Though, the acid lasts longer.)  I get a high off of watching a
good movie.

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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Back from London
Date: 01 Mar 2000 02:10:12 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Fucken amazed what these Brits always come up with, please do keep in
> mind that our beloved Orbital was named after an important part in
> London's Techno-Subculture and that they got big in London first! ;-D

Come on now!  Don't insult our intelligence...we all know that the
British music scene is much better than anything we've got here :)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Drugs...
Date: 01 Mar 2000 04:36:19 +0000



> [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > Naaah! 8)
> >
> > Anything that doesn't grow on the fields sucks IMHO! 8) Cocaine left
> > aside, hehe...
>
> Yeah, uh-huh.  Let's leave out caffiene-related drug: cocaine.  I'm not
> one to use cocaine, but I wouldn't completely discount it, either.  Like
> it or not, you take chemical drugs every day: caffiene, asprin, every
> chemical your brain and body puts out.
>
Wouldn't you say that the Tomato that you grow in your own backyard
is MORE healthy than the canned, chemically treated tomatoes that you
can buy in the supermarket?
Sure we are bombarded with food-chemicals all day long, but that's
something EVERYBODY hates and so why even support it and go further?
I simply dislike taking chemicals that were especially designed to
fuck with my metabolism, that DIRECTLY stimulate certain
neurotransmitters etc.... THC sure is also a chemical, but it was
never DESIGNED to act in one special way whose consequences are
mostly unknown!.. It's like with chemical food really: It sure TASTES
nicer than selfmade stuff sometimes, but that's only due to
a special mixture of chemicals that show their consequences way
later!
btw: When i was in America, i noticed that there was an extensively
larger number of old/elder people walking around using walking-aids
and other devices than in Germany.... My own theory is that this
*might* be due to the fact of artificial food having a longer history
and being more accepted in America!... Americans tend only to watch
for Fat-free, Sugar-free and so on while neglecting the mere
HEALTHINESS of the product, e.g. nobody cares for sabilisators, taste
enhancers and so on!.. Did you know that Nutrasweet can cause an
array of permanent symptoms when the beverage including it was only
ONCE over a certain temperature cause the nutrasweet chemical splits
up into two molecules, one of which is a strong nervous poison (in
a small dosis, one can of Coke light won't kill you, but 1000
might!)? The Gulf war had some evidence of this... However it took a
long time to notice this cause the effects were so varying that
everyone just thought it was a regular disease like Alzheimer or
Multiple Sklerosis, when in fact it was just that nervous poison
damaging *different* parts of the brain! The Nutrasweet producing
company ofcourse knew from day 1 about these side-effects but they
simply gave a shit as they always do as long as the margins are
right!... Hooray for capitalism!
THAT'S what happens when you fuck with chemicals!

> Besides, what's the difference between hemp and other "illegal drugs"?
>
Straight and simple: Ever heard of anyone overdoing on hemp? 8))
Cocaine - yes
Smack - yes
Acid - yes
E - yes
Speed - yes
anything else chemical prolly also yes, hell even ALCOHOL (can you
say Jim Morrison? 8)

And Hemp grows in the fields and has a history of 10.000 years of
usage, so don't even TRY to compare that to e.g. Extasy! >:-)
Another thing: violence.... ever heard of ANYONE being violent cause
of hemp-usage? LOL! 8) The mere THOUGHT is so fuckin funny!..
"Hey, dude, i'm gonna beat you up! But first i gotta smoke this
bong...Wow man! Naah, i won't beat you up, too much hassle!"
I for sure know (most) other drugs have a totally opposite effect,
just take Alcohol!...
I could go on forever with this.... 8) Bad question! ;-D

> > I dunno why Techno and rave always have to be associated with
> > chemical drugs, i mean i've lived through a fun 7 years of Techno now
> > without taking any pill or trip now and it's been great, too! And
> > i have wuite some friends that think like this, too! ;-D Maybe i
> > can't dance till i faint (though i have been known to do that, too
> > sometimes, even WITHOUT drugs! 8)  but afterall it's for the music
> > and the love to it, so drugs are not a MUST!... I tolerate though
> > that ppl do take 'em.... or rather feel the necessity to do so!
>
> Man, what is up with that straightedge motto?  NOBODY FEELS THAT WAY!  I
> only take drugs on occasion.  I like dancing and partying.  Drugs aren't
> the root of all evil.  They are just something to do when you feel like
> it.
>
I never said they are the root of all evil! 8) Like said, i enjoy
weed every now and then, too, and i tolerate others taking drugs,
it's everyone's own choice!.. But people need to recall what they are
actually doing and that they should be careful with it as it can
quickly fuck up their brain and/or life!.. I've for sure met some
SERIOUSLY fucked-in-the-head people that did chemicals!
And i just want them to recall what this is all about: music! 8)

DeeKay


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From: Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: Drugs...
Date: 01 Mar 2000 04:50:00 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Yeah, uh-huh.  Let's leave out caffiene-related drug: cocaine.  I'm not
> > one to use cocaine, but I wouldn't completely discount it, either.  Like
> > it or not, you take chemical drugs every day: caffiene, asprin, every
> > chemical your brain and body puts out.
> >
> Wouldn't you say that the Tomato that you grow in your own backyard
> is MORE healthy than the canned, chemically treated tomatoes that you
> can buy in the supermarket?

It depends on the chemicals.  If they are safe for you than so be it.
Do you think that naturally grown tobacco plant is MORE healthy than the
canned, chemically treated tomatoes?

> Sure we are bombarded with food-chemicals all day long, but that's
> something EVERYBODY hates and so why even support it and go further?

Oh, I dunno.  If it wasn't for some food-chemicals, farmers would lose
their crops.  Now, it helps if those chemicals were non-toxic, of
course, but to descriminate towards all chemicals is close-minded and
stereotypical.

> I simply dislike taking chemicals that were especially designed to
> fuck with my metabolism, that DIRECTLY stimulate certain
> neurotransmitters etc.... THC sure is also a chemical, but it was
> never DESIGNED to act in one special way whose consequences are
> mostly unknown!..

And THC doesn't do that?  THC is a drug just like any other.  If you
refined it to its purest form (seperate it from the plant), I'm sure
some stupid kid would figure out a way to kill himself.  It DIRECTLY
stimulates certain neurotransmitters, and we don't know all the details
of how it works either.

> It's like with chemical food really: It sure TASTES
> nicer than selfmade stuff sometimes, but that's only due to
> a special mixture of chemicals that show their consequences way
> later!

Huh?  A "selfmade" tomato tastes just like a store-bought tomato.

> btw: When i was in America, i noticed that there was an extensively
> larger number of old/elder people walking around using walking-aids
> and other devices than in Germany.... My own theory is that this
> *might* be due to the fact of artificial food having a longer history
> and being more accepted in America!... Americans tend only to watch
> for Fat-free, Sugar-free and so on while neglecting the mere
> HEALTHINESS of the product, e.g. nobody cares for sabilisators, taste
> enhancers and so on!..

That's a -REALLY- unscientific theory!

> Did you know that Nutrasweet can cause an
> array of permanent symptoms when the beverage including it was only
> ONCE over a certain temperature cause the nutrasweet chemical splits
> up into two molecules, one of which is a strong nervous poison (in
> a small dosis, one can of Coke light won't kill you, but 1000
> might!)? The Gulf war had some evidence of this... However it took a
> long time to notice this cause the effects were so varying that
> everyone just thought it was a regular disease like Alzheimer or
> Multiple Sklerosis, when in fact it was just that nervous poison
> damaging *different* parts of the brain! The Nutrasweet producing
> company ofcourse knew from day 1 about these side-effects but they
> simply gave a shit as they always do as long as the margins are
> right!...

That's one theory.  Another is the injections they give the soldiers to
protect them from chemical/bio warfare was causing it.  I hear a new
theory on Gulf War syndrome every month.

> Hooray for capitalism!

I hate capitalism.  Need to go to socialism, but that's a debate for
another time and place.

> > Besides, what's the difference between hemp and other "illegal drugs"?
> >
> Straight and simple: Ever heard of anyone overdoing on hemp? 8))
> Cocaine - yes
> Smack - yes
> Acid - yes
> E - yes
> Speed - yes
> anything else chemical prolly also yes, hell even ALCOHOL (can you
> say Jim Morrison? 8)

Tobacco - yes.  And alcohol is made from good ol' wholesome grain and
other plants.  I argee that hemp is one of the safest plants you can
smoke, but to justify it just because it's "home-grown" is denying some
basic facts about chemistry.  Anything home-grown has the same odds to
kill you as anything chemical.  Now, you can fuck up making a chemical
drug, but that's because it's illegal and it's up to some college
chemistry grad to make the stuff.  I'll take that risk.  But, I could
smoke a naturally-grown holly plant and it would still make me sick.

> And Hemp grows in the fields and has a history of 10.000 years of
> usage, so don't even TRY to compare that to e.g. Extasy! >:-)
> Another thing: violence.... ever heard of ANYONE being violent cause
> of hemp-usage? LOL! 8) The mere THOUGHT is so fuckin funny!..
> "Hey, dude, i'm gonna beat you up! But first i gotta smoke this
> bong...Wow man! Naah, i won't beat you up, too much hassle!"
> I for sure know (most) other drugs have a totally opposite effect,
> just take Alcohol!...
> I could go on forever with this.... 8) Bad question! ;-D

Do you know how long it took to figure out that tobacco was cancerous?
We smoked it for thousands of years and only now figured that out.  I
think it has more to do with our current rate of technology, but that's
proof that the time it's been around is irrelevant.

About violence with drugs, alcohol is about the only drug I know of that
does that.  For example:

Hemp    = -
E       = -
LSD     = -
K       = -
Coke    = 0
Speed   = 0
Alcohol = +

Notice that the four most popular rave drugs actually detract from
violence. Coke and speed are cousins of caffiene and have much of the
same effect.  All three of them have nothing to do with violence or lack
of judgement.  E is speed with some happiness put in.  Alcohol doesn't
mix well with any of them, but I wouldn't recommend a guy taking
anti-depressants to take most of those drugs anyway.

> I never said they are the root of all evil! 8) Like said, i enjoy
> weed every now and then, too, and i tolerate others taking drugs,
> it's everyone's own choice!.. But people need to recall what they are
> actually doing and that they should be careful with it as it can
> quickly fuck up their brain and/or life!.. I've for sure met some
> SERIOUSLY fucked-in-the-head people that did chemicals!

Of course.  I'm an advocate of researching the shit you put in your
mouth.  You should definately be careful.  I remember a girl that held
up a very small (and empty) bag and ask what kind of drug would be in
this kind of bag.  Stupid!  I have several rules on taking drugs that I
live by.  I know it's a risk, but it's a risk that I'm willing to take.
If it were legal, it would be much safer.

> And i just want them to recall what this is all about: music! 8)

Raving is not ALL about the music.  It's about having fun.  I never go
to a rave to listen to some DJ that I don't know spin music.  I really
don't care too much about who's playing.  I have favorites, but I don't
go to a rave BECAUSE s/he's playing.

I like to dance.  I like to socialize.  I like to take drugs.  I like to
see some guy do some crazy breakdancing, or mess around with a "raver
toy".  Music is one the things I also like, but it's not everything.
It's not ALL about the music.

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Computer techie, PERL hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru
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