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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 01 Jun 1999 23:37:03 -0500


Coming to you once again with an off-topic post.  Well, I promised
myself I wouldn't do this and here I am, doing it.  I bought Autechre's
Incunabula (that's the first one, right?) around spring break this year,
after rejecting much skepticism, etc.  I was immediately surprised
(pleasantly = ) by what I had found, and I have been listening to it
frequently since then.  It's not what I expected at all, and I just love
everything about it- I don't dislike any track, and everything is
unique.  When the sticker on the wrapper talked about it's
individuality, I thought it meant it was bad = ).  Well, I was wondering
what other people thought about Incunabula and the other albums.  I
promised not to buy any more until I had done justice to the first one,
and I still haven't.  Well, I'd like some input, so throw me a bone!
Thanks!
                        -Marc Sawaya

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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 01 Jun 1999 21:46:42 PDT


Yeah, I agree with him. Incunabula is one of those Autechre albums that gets
ranked on by the usual Autechre fans. I quite enjoy it though. The tracks
are more "listenable" and the album flows quite well. Personally, I don't
like the new direction that Autechre is going. They are getting more into
random programming and that "drill and bass" stuff similar to Aphex and Tom
Jenkinson. Although I do like that stuff too, I think if a group has the
talent to make great tunes, they should expand on this, not tear it all down
and try to reinvent themselves. Just think of it, what if Orbital did this
as well? What the hell would I do!


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From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 02 Jun 1999 02:03:08 -0400


This isn't a specific attack on anyone...  (Really, it's not :)  I love you
all :))



> Jenkinson. Although I do like that stuff too, I think if a group has the
> talent to make great tunes, they should expand on this, not tear it all
down
> and try to reinvent themselves. Just think of it, what if Orbital did this
> as well? What the hell would I do!

Oh yes, we all agree with you!  New = Bad!  Different = Worse!  Down with
creativity!  Up with sales!  Artists shouldn't try to please themselves,
they should please me!  I don't want any of this experiementation crap!  I
want to hear new variations on the one album I liked for ever!  Thank you
muchly!

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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 02 Jun 1999 04:23:01 PDT


Ok, I think that the assumptions you made towards my comments were
completely wrong. I don't think that different is bad and old is good. I
like the new stuff just the same, and I can respect Autechre's new direction
that they are taking, it's just that LP5 is shit! What sets LP5 apart from
any other drill and bass/noise albums? What I was saying is that they are
now following a trend, whereas before they were doing what THEY wanted to,
because they had the ability to do such. This is similar to the way Orbital
are because they constantly make music that goes against the current trends.
I don't mean to be acting like a complete ass, so please don't take it that
way. I guess Autechre only had a couple "Incunabula-Style" albums to give,
and then they ran out of juice.


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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 02 Jun 1999 12:39:55 +0100


At 23:37 1.6.1999 -0500, Marc Sawaya wrote:
>Well, I was wondering
>what other people thought about Incunabula and the other albums.  I
>promised not to buy any more until I had done justice to the first one,
>and I still haven't.  Well, I'd like some input, so throw me a bone!
all I can say is, I started out with Tri Repetae and was seriously
impressed. it was quite unlike what other cds I was buying at the time, raw
yet warm, minimal yet so full of... music, charisma, something. and from
there I grabbed Incunabula and was even more impressed, lovely stuff imho.
from there, I travelled via Amber (a lot of which I like, but I still
prefer Tri Repetae & Incunabula, while some people think that Amber is best
of those 3), the got Tri Repetae++ (which for those that don't know
includes the Anvil Vapre & Garbage EPs on 2nd CD) and gave my TR to a
friend living in Finland. that was possibly one of the best purchases I've
done. TR++ is just... *amazing* for the low price it was selling at. the
Anvil Vapre ep is maybe a little bit harder and noisier, but still very
good, and the Garbage ep is anything but garbage, in fact it's one of the
very best things from ae imho... vletrmx21 is breathtaking, a real must
have for fans of ambient electronic music.
after that I got Bass Cadet ep (which isn't bad, but not great, but still,
the last mix on the cd is excellent imo), Anti EP (which is excellent),
Cichlisuite ep (which is where they start to sound a bit harsher imo),
Envane ep & Chiastic Slide (which have some real good bits, but here their
sound is getting harsher, and not quite to my liking, I prefer their warmer
past) and finally LP5 & Peel Sessions ep (which has a BRILLIANT version of
Drane).

this of course is just MHO :)

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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre -- Drill and Bass???
Date: 02 Jun 1999 10:11:15 -0700


Robert said:
[snip]
>>> . . .  LP5 is shit! What sets LP5 apart from
any other drill and bass/noise albums?<<<

Well for starters, LP5 is not a "drill and bass" album.  Nor is it a
noise album.  When I think of dnb, I think Squarepusher.  For noise, try
Bomb 20 or Atari Teenage Riot or Merzbow.   Please check it out again.
LP5 is mostly mellow, not noisy.  It resuscitates some of the
sensibilities of Incunabula and Amber, but expresses those using
advanced gear and technical prowess.

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From: "Patrick McGinn" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre -- Drill and Bass???
Date: 02 Jun 1999 13:33:04 -0400


> Well for starters, LP5 is not a "drill and bass" album.  Nor is it a
> noise album.  When I think of dnb, I think Squarepusher.  For noise, try
> Bomb 20 or Atari Teenage Riot or Merzbow.   Please check it out again.
> LP5 is mostly mellow, not noisy.  It resuscitates some of the
> sensibilities of Incunabula and Amber, but expresses those using
> advanced gear and technical prowess.

Exactly.

For me, LP5 was closer in tone to Pole's CD2/LP2 (which, yes, came later.)

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From: Michael David Lyons <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 02 Jun 1999 13:37:56 +0200 (MET DST)


Robert Schultz said:
>
>
> Ok, I think that the assumptions you made towards my comments were
> completely wrong. I don't think that different is bad and old is good. I
> like the new stuff just the same, and I can respect Autechre's new direction
> ...it's just that LP5 is shit!

Nah! ;-)

> What sets LP5 apart from any other drill and bass/noise albums?

Vose In

> I guess Autechre only had a couple "Incunabula-Style" albums to give,
> and then they ran out of juice.

???

Amber and Tri Repetae are great (2nd and 3rd albums, respectively) and I
certainly wouldn't classify either of them as "Incunabula-Style"  Their style
has evolved continually, which is why it's so easy to place the Peel Session
disc between, well, Amber and Tri Repetae .

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) autechre
Date: 02 Jun 1999 19:09:21 +0100


The new single ('EP7') was due out this week (according to a month-old Warp
missive) but I've not seen it. Anyone seen it, or is it just Warp's usual
incapability of releasing stuff on time?

Anyway, here's my Autechre history: I started with 'Chiastic Slide' and
it's still my favourite. 'Incunabula' sounds too smooth to me (but then so
does 'In Sides'), but probably wouldn't have if I'd bought it when it came
out. 'LP5' is not shit, it's probably (make that 'definitely') the most
advanced, sophisticated album I've ever heard. But some people don't like
that, which I guess is fair enough. It's not an easy album, gtaht's for
sure, and there aren't a lot of 'tunes' on there... I'd certainly say that
Autechre's closest album to Orbital (especially more recent Orbital) is
'Incunabula', so I'm not surprised so many people like it a lot. I prefer
harsher stuff, which is why I love 'Chiastic Slide' and 'Anvil Vapre' so
much. Autechre are never predictable, whether you like their stuff or not,
which I why I want the new EP, and I want it now!

While I'm at it, I might as well recommend a few things: Speedy J's recent
single 'IEEE Mitten Menu' is brilliant (sort of like 'Public Energy', but
more 'beaty'). So is I-F's new album (more or less the same as the last
one, but that's no bad thing - minimal housey electro, I suppose). The
Depth Charge 'Electro Boogie' compilation has great music, but the mixing
is shit. I got FUSE's 'Train Tracs' CD the other day too (old, I know, but
I was frustrated that the Autechre single's not out) and it's brillinat
.Wish I'd bought it six years ago. And what about Underworld? the remixes
of the last two singles are just boring, and the album is a bit tame. Have
they lost their edge? Discuss.


cheers,
Jon

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From: "Juno Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 02 Jun 1999 12:00:03 PDT


Can we please shut the fuck up about them ? This is Orbital, remember ? Send
each other private replies if you want to talk about them !  I'm sick of
getting your damn junk mail !!!!


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From: "Robert Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:19:13 PDT
Date: 02 Jun 1999 13:19:48 -0600


Thank you! I forgot that everybody is so focused on categorizing music! I
know that "noise" is a category, but that I didn't intend to call Autechre a
"noise" band. The first song is definitely leaning towards drill and bass,
there's no denying that. The rest of the album lacks compared to Amber and
Incunabula. Tri Rep is also sort of drum and bassy, especially the first
song. And as someone has already said, this IS the Orbital list. Sorry to
get everyone all bent out of shape. As for Autechre's "Incunabula-sounding"
albums, I think it should be obvious the way the first 2 albums were the
same sort of format: Get a beat going, build the melodies until the song
comes to its high point at the end of the song. That is what I meant. Sorry!


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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre -Reply
Date: 02 Jun 1999 14:19:49 -0700


Trolling are we?

>>> "Juno Jackson" <[e-mail]> 6/2/99  12:00 pm >>>

Can we please shut the fuck up about them ? This is Orbital, remember ?
Send
each other private replies if you want to talk about them !  I'm sick of

getting your damn junk mail !!!!


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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre
Date: 02 Jun 1999 22:48:09 -0700


I dont know about in the UK, but I just got my advance promo of the album
(along with the new Plaid album ) in the mail from Nothing/Warp last week.


.matthewford.

Jon Green wrote:

> The new single ('EP7') was due out this week (according to a month-old Warp
> missive) but I've not seen it. Anyone seen it, or is it just Warp's usual
> incapability of releasing stuff on time?
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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Konnichiwa
Date: 05 Jun 1999 02:33:17 +0900


First, I just wanted to say I don't like Autechre, but getting so pissed about
a few posts is quite, well, pissy. Anway, about Orbital, and I just sent a
similar post to the Moby guys, I got so hooked up on my 2 week trip back to
America. But I am back in Japan, and after reading over 300 mails, (maybe
more) I finally have a chance to see my new CDs! Actually, I don't cause I
have got  way too much work to do, but anyway, since I never did a new guy
intro here either, after 1.5 years I will do one by listing my Orbital CDs. My
collection just got a little bit bigger, and some thanks to people on  the
list. Especially Trym, who so hooked me up with Moby Orbital and BT! Anyway, here:
----
Satan - Kirk Hammett
Satan - Three
The Box
In Sides - Halcyon Live 2CD
Peel Sessions 2CD
Brown
Snivilization
Diversions
Green - America
Green - Japan
Radiccio - Japan
Even Horizon
Style - 1
Style - 2
The Saint - Promo
The Guide
Middle of Nowhere
*Midnight / Choice (2 copies)
*Lush (2 copies)
*Some Bootleg (Don't know what it is)
*Are We Here (2 copies)
*Omen (!)
*Halcyon (!)
*Belfast Wasted / Therapy - Innocent
*(One more single that is Maroonish purple and is almost the exact same design
as the Are We Here singe, but has no name on the CD and I left the case in
America and I feel really dumb for not being able to remember the name.)
----
Anyway, that is what  I got. All the "*" ones are new ones I got in America
last week. Finally Omen and Halcyon. Am I missing anything else on CD?
    Plus, in addition to all the pimp Orbital and Moby, I got finally Got Orb -
Little Fluffy Clouds (2 copies) (Thanks Trym!) and Utah Saints - OHIO (2
copies!), 2 CDs I have been looking for forever! Anyway, Who has got stuff on
CD I don't have so I know what to go out and look for? Later.
AJ


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From: _Quasar-. <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Where can I get TIX??
Date: 03 Jun 1999 11:34:19 PDT


Hi!!
Does anyone know where I can get Orbital tickets for the Worcester.Mass
show?? i've been looking far and wide! is anyone going to be at that show
and would you like to meet up? plur.




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From: Morey Gamble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre -Reply
Date: 02 Jun 1999 20:49:30 -0400


At 02:19 PM 6/2/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Trolling are we?
>
>>>> "Juno Jackson" <[e-mail]> 6/2/99  12:00 pm >>>
>
>Can we please shut the fuck up about them ? This is Orbital, remember ?
>Send
>each other private replies if you want to talk about them !  I'm sick of
>
>getting your damn junk mail !!!!


    No kidding.. One of the things I've always liked about this list is that
we've always (with a few occasional exceptions) been able to get along and
be nice and still talk about things around the periphery of the 'orbital'
topic. Yes, of course the list is supposed to focus on orbital, but I've
learned an incredible amount about electronic music of all different styles
from various people over the last 3 years on this list, and I personally
like it that way.  As far as I can remember, this list has really always
been about more than 'just' orbital, so I don't personally think a 3-4
message thread that's somewhat off topic is that big a deal.. I'm sure
there are plenty that disagree (one for sure), but that's just my own
personal opinion.

peace,
-Morey



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From: Jean Christophe DERRIEN <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Sale ! Sale ! Sale !
Date: 03 Jun 1999 13:39:31 +0100


Sorry to interrupt your program, I have some items Orb, Orbit, Orbital
related... for sale.

VINYL :

Orbital - The Naked and the Dub 11.51 (One Side Only)     6UKP/10USD

Rita Mitsouko - Ya dla Haine ! 3 William Orbit remixes     6UKP/10USD

Sven Vath - Touch themes of Harlequin... remix album
(Underworld, Hardfloor, David Holmes, Aural Float)    10UKP/17USD

Opus III -When you made the mountain (5 remixes)    6UKP/10USD

Bjork - Hyperballad (The LFO Mixes) promo
with Disco Sync Mix and the Stomp mix        7UKP/12USD

System 7 - Ring of Fire (5 remixes)            6UKP/10USD

Dollshead - It's over it's under (promo 4 remixes with Orb
remix)                        6UKP/10USD

Rick Wright - Runaway (2 Orb remixes) & Night of a
thousand furry toys (Orbit remix) Promo        12UKP /20USD

Mike Oldfield - Women of Ireland (3 remixes including the
System 7 remix)                    6UKP/10USD

Curve - Rising (Headspace mix) FSOL Remix        6UKP/10USD

Spectre - Covert dub (6 remixes including a Youth & Orb
remixes)                        6UKP/10USD

CDs :

Massive Attack - Teardrop (4 tracks)            6UKP/10USD

Killing Joke - Democracy (3 tracks, Orb remix)        6UKP/10USD

Massive Attack - Inertia creeps (6 tracks, ltd edition)    7UKP/12USD

Massive Attack - Unfinished sympathy (4 mixes)    7UKP/12USD

Massive Attack - Angel (3 tracks, Blur remix)        6 UKP/10USD

Please email privately. P&P not included.

Thanks,
JCFromParis


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From: "KELL SIMON" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) offtopicmimi
Date: 03 Jun 1999 10:44:39 -0400


i got a great cd the other day that i thought i'd share.  the band is =
called "mimi" and includes mimi goese and hahn rowe who were in a band =
called hugo largo some years ago (good lineup:  two bass guitars, violin =
and vocals).  mimi goese's singing is a little bit similar to bjork but =
with a bit more warmth and the music is a combination of (mainly) =
electronics with some violin and guitar/bass stuff too.  beats vary from =
dnbish to beatless ambient and the textures and melodies are amazing.  the =
cd is called "soak" and is out domestically in the us.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre -Reply
Date: 03 Jun 1999 19:47:57 +0100


At 20:49 02/06/99 -0400, Morey Gamble wrote:
>
>At 02:19 PM 6/2/99 -0700, you wrote:

>One of the things I've always liked about this list is that
>we've always (with a few occasional exceptions) been able to get along and
>be nice and still talk about things around the periphery of the 'orbital'
>topic.

me too. Maybe it'd be different if there were 40 messages a day actually
about Orbital, but there aren't. We need something to talk about!


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From: Juno Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Chill the fuck out
Date: 03 Jun 1999 12:33:00 PDT


Hey, I'm sorry that I went off regarding the whole Autechre thing. It's just
that it gets extremely annoying when I go through tons of mail that I get
everyday and half of them are personal replies to someone's message that is
posted to the regular list. All I'm saying is that you should send personal
notes to each other seperate from the list so that you don't waste other
people's value time spent on the internet. Late.

NOISEWERKER



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From: saadia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Middle of Nowhere
Date: 03 Jun 1999 15:57:57 -0400 (EDT)



Hey,

I was wondering if any of you know of any differences between the middle
of nowhere UK release and the one that is to be domestically relased here
in the US. My import *still* hasnt come in yet <sigh> so I wanna know if i
should just nix the import and order the domestic instead (which is
incidently a third of the price).

thanks, im done blabbing.
saadia



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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Chill the fuck out
Date: 04 Jun 1999 01:16:47 +0100



At 12:33 3.6.1999 -0700, Juno Jackson wrote:
>Hey, I'm sorry that I went off regarding the whole Autechre thing. It's just
>that it gets extremely annoying when I go through tons of mail that I get
>everyday and half of them are personal replies to someone's message that is
>posted to the regular list. All I'm saying is that you should send personal
>notes to each other seperate from the list so that you don't waste other
>people's value time spent on the internet. Late.
well... some of the people seemed to be fairly interested. Besides, since
we ain't all psychic, it would be kinda hard for us to be able to cc the
mails to those who might care, so we could exclude whiners like you...
oh damn. I wasted your time. oh well. I'll survive ;)

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Subject: (orbital) Roskilde - who's going?
Date: 04 Jun 1999 04:25:01 +0000


Hi!
I don't wanna bother all of you with too much Travel-Scheduling-BS,
I'd just want anyone going to the Roskilde gig in July to mail me
DIRECTLY! 8)
Best would be someone travelling from or through south Germany
(bavaria)...

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) General
Date: 03 Jun 1999 19:36:04 PDT


I don't know about any of the other US on this list, but I feel deprived!
Orbital are doing all these crazy festivals in Europe, such as that
Rockslide (or whatever) festival, but they never do festivals in the US!
It's times like this that I wish I lived in Europe. By the way, have they
played that festival in Spain yet? I ask this because I'm going to Spain in
a couple years and I want to know much appreciation the Hartnolls get in
Spain. Are they more popular in Spain than in the US? This may be a stupid
question. Also, have any of you ever thought about bringing a DAT recorder
to the shows and hooking up to the sound desk, similar to what is allowed at
Phish and Dave Matthews Band shows here in the states? We need to get crazy
Orbital bootlegs floating around the internet. Anyway, I think you Europeans
are very fortunate to have critical acceptance of electronic music. In the
states, this is so no the case!


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From: Wigan Ludgate <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) General
Date: 03 Jun 1999 20:36:30 -0700 (PDT)


hi. i'm very new to this list but just wanted to echo
these sentiments. I saw Orbital perform at the last
Lollapalooza tour back in 1996, and they were
unbelievable. They closed the show, which had sold out
the venue at 28,000, but only about 5,000 people
stayed for their set. Their loss. I have yet to see a
show visually on par with the one they put on, and
they closed with their live rendition of Halcyon and
on and on in which they mix in Bon Jovi and Belinda
Carlysle. I already had a copy of that version on disc
two of the first printing of their U.S. release of
Insides, but i honestly think i was the only one who
was expecting it, it was fun to watch the audience
stop cold and wait for a second to make sure they
weren't hearing things before they decided that they
like what they were hearing very much. I would love to
see Orbital again, and I really hope they play some
shows in the U.S. to promote Middle of Nowhere, which
is an amazing album. I bought the import the second i
saw it, even though it cost a fortune because the U.S.
release doesn't come out for a few more days (June
8th, i think). Also, i would be very appreciative if
anyone knows when Nothing Left is going to be released
as a single, i think it is the best track on the
record (Parts 1 and 2) and am dying to hear the
remixes. Thanks!

[Chris]


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> I don't know about any of the other US on this list,
> but I feel deprived!
> Orbital are doing all these crazy festivals in
> Europe, such as that
> Rockslide (or whatever) festival, but they never do
> festivals in the US!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Spain
Date: 04 Jun 1999 10:00:23 -1200




Robert Schultz wrote



"It's times like this that I wish I lived in Europe. By the way, have they
played that festival in Spain yet? I ask this because I'm going to Spain in
a couple years and I want to know much appreciation the Hartnolls get in
Spain. Are they more popular in Spain than in the US? This may be a stupid
question"


Well i dont think it is stupid and i dont know the answer, specially
considerning that USA is, at least, a twenty fold bigger country than
Spain, and has a lot more audience and selling....but the fact is that i=B4v=
e
seen orbital and many others playing in Spain and they all seem to be
having a GREAT, GREAT time (before, during and after their live acts) and
this must be taken into account.

Anyway. Orbital were on Jerez this past spring and WILL be on june 17th
(thursday  night) at Sonar (Barcelona) (I WILL BE THERE) which
no-european-one in the list should miss and also in Madrid june 19 saturday
at another festival (is the firs time -at last- they come to Madrid (my
city) and i will be in Barcelona!!! ;)


See you there??


By the way, Steve, BIG BIG album S.H.A.D.O 2 (Pete Namlook/HIA).I love this
guy!! (Bobby Bird, i mean)




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From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Back to DJ Rap...
Date: 04 Jun 1999 12:08:57 -0400


In the midst of this Autechre haze, anyone remember when we used to talk
about DJ Rap?

Just a quick question: I was chilling with her last night at 611 Records
in Philly, got her to sign a few things for me. If anyone is interested,
yeah, she is very easygoing and quite cute :) But anyway, there was so
much traffic on 76 that we came late, too late to see her do her
mini-set! Any other 611 patrons on this list who caught her earlier in
the night who can tell me what she spun? I'll be buying Learning Curve
soon too, just for a lark, can anyone compare her album to anything else
I might have heard? And has she done any mix compilations or anything
like that? I know this is horribly off-topic, but what isn't? :) Later,
all,

- KEL, who is trying to decipher DJ Rap's handwriting... "To Kel- bk
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Off topic, if you don't want to read, DON'T
Date: 04 Jun 1999 10:10:54 PDT


Hey, I don't mean to bve an asshole, but am I the only one here who believes
DJ Rap is pretty insignificant in comparison to Orbital and Autechre? But,
if we are going to mention other artists, has anymore received any recent
information on Future Sound of London? I am dying to hear some new material
from them! Also, does anyone listen to Mike Paradinas (Mu-ziq, Kid Spatula,
etc), Squarepusher, or anything else similar?


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Off topic, if you don't want to read, DON'T
Date: 04 Jun 1999 14:16:49 -0400



> Hey, I don't mean to bve an asshole, but am I the only one here who
> believes DJ Rap is pretty insignificant in comparison to Orbital and
> Autechre? But, if we are going to mention other artists, has anymore
> received any recent information on Future Sound of London? I am dying to
> hear some new material from them! Also, does anyone listen to Mike
> Paradinas (Mu-ziq, Kid Spatula, etc), Squarepusher, or anything else
> similar?

I've been wondering about FSOL myself - anyone know anything?




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) UK Tour and US album
Date: 04 Jun 1999 15:20:57 EDT


Hey all.
In anticipation for the upcoming tour I was wondering if anyone had a set
list of the songs they played during the UK shows (at least which older ones)
so that I might educate those newer Orbital friends who are joining me for
the show.
Also, I found a track listing of the US and UK versions of Middle Of Nowhere
on Cdnow.  Track 5 is different: US= Otono and UK= Autumn.  Anybody sure if
these are different songs?
Thanks for the help.
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) UK Tour and US album
Date: 04 Jun 1999 21:38:12 +0100


At 15:20 04/06/99 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Also, I found a track listing of the US and UK versions of Middle Of Nowhere
>on Cdnow.  Track 5 is different: US= Otono and UK= Autumn.  Anybody sure if
>these are different songs?

Don't think so, there's something complicated about the titles that
ptrobably only Steve Price understands. Anyway, my UK copy has 'Otono', not
'Autumn'. Have you got 'em the wrong way round?


cheers,
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From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) UK Tour and US album
Date: 04 Jun 1999 22:50:44 -0400


[e-mail] wrote:

> Also, I found a track listing of the US and UK versions of Middle Of Nowhere
> on Cdnow.  Track 5 is different: US= Otono and UK= Autumn.  Anybody sure if
> these are different songs?

Maybe this is obvious to everyone else, but no one has mentioned it...
"Otono" (with a squiggle over the n) is the Spanish for "Autumn," so I
would guess they're the same track.I have no idea really... maybe they
felt the need to translate for whatever reason. Everyone knows how
supposedly intolerant we Americans are of non-English languages :P Har
har...

If anyone cares to go looking while there, I will be at the July 11th
Philadelphia show, with glowsticks and one of Digger's "new age
travellers..." shirts on. Who else might I see there?

- KEL


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Subject: (orbital) ***Orbital 2?***
Date: 05 Jun 1999 01:56:52 -0400 (EDT)


Hi  :)

I'm looking for a copy of Halcyon and On and On... mine was damaged.  Do any of you have a copy you'd be willing to part with?

Thanks!

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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital US Release Special Info [READ ME..]
Date: 05 Jun 1999 00:47:00 -0700


Hey kids,
This is just a little note(s) for you folks regarding next weeks release
of Middle Of Nowhere:

[FREE FRISBEE WITH PURCHASE!]
For those of you lucky enough to live near a Virgin Megastore, you might
be interested in knowing that beginning Tuesday, with every purchase of
the DOMESTIC version of MoN you will receive a free (yes, FREE) glow in
the dark Orbital Frisbee!!  This is just your ordinary frisbe that glows
in the dark and features the new Orbital "logo".  Ive got nearly a
hundred of these under my desk right now and Im tellin you you shouldnt
miss ou these if you can.

[DIFFERENCES IN THE IMPORT AND DOMESTIC]
At first glance, these are the differences Ive noticed in the import and
the domestic versions of the album:
a:Tracklist-On the import, the first track is entitled "Way Out -->"
while on the domestic, the title is missing the arrow.
b.Packaging-As many of you know, the import came in a neat little
cardboard slipcase that had thetitle and picture of dude walking on it,
while the front outer jewel case had all the copyright info, etc.  The
domestic doesnt have the cardboard case, instead it has the logo, man
walking on the outside booklet and the title, etc on the inside spine
while the tracklisting stays in the same place as on the import.
c.The Picture Booklet-I cant give in depth descriptions cause I dont
have my domestic copy here with me, but you should know that the
domestic booklet has less than half of the images that the import has.

Im sure theres more than that, but i havent looked deeply enough.

Hope this helps,

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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) the us tour
Date: 05 Jun 1999 01:10:52 -0700 (PDT)


i am going to the july 4th show!!!!!!  yeah!!!
okay, so the guests there are crystal method and lo fi allstars.  My
question to you are these:
1) how good are crystal method in concert?  i heard a live broadcast of
them from some site and they blew.  well, it was listening to the cd all
over again...nothing original with difference (like our beloved orbital!)
2) what up with the lo fi allstars?  when I heard them (partially) on the
radio...they stank.  well, very rockish like.  i thought this was a
techno concert!  or at least dancy.
anyone know what these two bands are like?  And what the hell is crystal
method playing except for 'Vegas'?  Do they even have a new album coming
out anytime soon?  i will hurl if i hear 'busy child' again!
by the way, anyone have any recommendations for any music quite like paul
van dyk?  i am listening to 45rpm and it kicks!
laters and good night.

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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) the us tour
Date: 05 Jun 1999 01:36:30 -0700



Mehul Parekh I wrote:

> 1) how good are crystal method in concert?  i heard a live broadcast of
> them from some site and they blew.  well, it was listening to the cd all
> over again...nothing original with difference (like our beloved orbital!)
>

exactly that. just like the CD only really loud.


> 2) what up with the lo fi allstars?  when I heard them (partially) on the
> radio...they stank.  well, very rockish like.  i thought this was a
> techno concert!  or at least dancy.
> anyone know what these two bands are like?  And what the hell is crystal
> method playing except for 'Vegas'?  Do they even have a new album coming
> out anytime soon?  i will hurl if i hear 'busy child' again!
> by the way, anyone have any recommendations for any music quite like paul
> van dyk?  i am listening to 45rpm and it kicks!
> laters and good night.
>

They suck really.  Because their singer left, they play a tape of the guy's
vocals. how lame.  At least the chems warp their vocals when doing live shows.

lll be booing the opening acts,

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre - another favourite of mine
Date: 05 Jun 1999 11:21:05 +0100


Interesting reading peoples comments on Autechre. THey are a big favourite
of mine along with Orbital of course. The early stuff "Amber" and
"Incunabula" are more laid back and im sure most people could put these on a
be very satisfied. Personally i like the more unusual, original, obscure
Autechre. I saw someone wrote how LP5 is shit....in everyones eyes its
either Shit or Brilliant....never inbetween. Personally LP5 WAS the best
album of 1998 for me. "Rae" is probably my favourite Autechre track of all
time and "Fold 4 Wrap 5" is the ultimate mind-fuck (just listen to
that...and tell me how they started to construct that track!).

Other recommendations...."Garbage Ep" and "Anvil Vapre Ep" with "Vletrmx21"
sounding simple , eerie and in the same breath, awesome! - "Tri Repetae"
with the classic "Clipper" - one of the most uplifting Autechre tracks
around. "Peel Sessions" for the "Draine" track (or it may be "Draine2" -
cant remember the spelling :) ).

IF you want a real challenge...then try listening to "Enuane EP" and
"Chiastic Slide" - i found both of these really hard to get into for ages
(we are talking months). But now they are part of the family. Let that be a
lesson to those who play one minute of a track and dismiss it (fools :) ).

IF you havent heard any Autechre or just one album by Autechre...dont give
up...every album has a unique style.

Steve LOOPZ Price
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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autumn or Ontano ?
Date: 05 Jun 1999 11:31:04 +0100


>Also, I found a track listing of the US and UK versions of Middle Of
Nowhere
>on Cdnow.  Track 5 is different: US= Otono and UK= Autumn.  Anybody sure if

>these are different songs?

Track 5 is called on Ontono on both Uk and Us release - Cdnow have it wrong.
Ontano is gaelic for "Autumn"....and around November the first promos of the
album came out and Orbital had called the track "Autumn" at this point. It
was later changed to "Ontano" because of the Pooka girls who sang on the
track.

Thanx

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Ack....read this one!
Date: 05 Jun 1999 11:31:53 +0100


I meant spanish not gaelic!

STeve :)


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From: "Hexaphim" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Ack....read this one!
Date: 05 Jun 1999 15:01:57 +0200


> I meant spanish not gaelic!
>
> STeve :)
>
And you ment Oto=F1o, not Ontano.
How many times do I have to tell you this, u wanka? :P

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) off topic (thoughts re:Autechre)
Date: 05 Jun 1999 15:18:55 +0100



I find Autechres LP5 more disturbing than enjoyable, which to me doesn't
mean it's no good. I was sitting there absorbing it when my best mates
daugher (aged 6) said it sounded like music for insects - who am I to say
that is wrong ? The thing I like about Ae is the way they keep coming up
with new ideas which constantly challenge the way you actually listen to
music. I guess I'm being predictable if I say I prefer to listen to earlier
LP's, most often. Amber would be my favourite LP, and some of the best of
the rest for me would be...Bike, Garbage, Eggshell....come to think of it
there is a lot more...Chatter is....Chatter just "is"...I love that record.
Anyway...For want of a better word, the 'soul' or 'feeling' has disappeared
from LP5, I am in no dought they are onto something powerful with the new
ideas, but I miss what is perceived as the human aspect of the music, what
was once seen to me as a mixing,merging,creating of forms which relate to
both our own ideas of humanity/harmony and machinery/technology, there is
now something different which I can't relate to (yet), I just find myself
thinking along the lines of...that it's very clever, but....I miss
something, it's too cold and I don't care how intelligently it's been done.
It's not easy to explain as I know there is melody, depth, structure, and
everything else.

For people sick of getting lot's of e-mail as a result of being on this
list, have you tried the digest ? You have to unsubscribe then re-subscribe
to orbital-digest instead....same address to send to (xmission). This also
applies to the IDM mailing list which is partly about Autechre & WARP etc,
and can be found on hyperreal. (I'm not suggesting anyone who wants to talk
about Ae should just talk about it there...I'd be a hypocrite ! But...if
you want it, it's there...) If the digests are also too much irrelevant
information as well... one solution is to export everything out to text
files and then use a text search utility (grep) on them, similar to using a
search engine....very useful things if you know what you want. If you don't
(know what you want)...you might want to think about what you are trying to
achieve before flaming people. If theres something good to say which is not
being said then say it, rather than blaming other people for not saying it.
Nobody is right and nobody is wrong, I guess I'm just asking people to be
considerate or something, and think a little more positive.

My last post got lost at the server, it was rubbish anyway...in a nutshell:
1) Anyone know if the HIA album is out on general release ? 2) Listening to
Prodigy shouldn't cause you to beat up your girlfriend, if it does you need
help anyway 3) Could the whirly 'S' on the Style single be the very same
'S' on the 'Stylophone' ?

Cheers,

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) the us tour
Date: 05 Jun 1999 11:00:37 +0200


Mehul asked:
> by the way, anyone have any recommendations for any music quite like paul
> van dyk?  i am listening to 45rpm and it kicks!

Go get the triple cd "Technik Remixes 92-98" , also by PvD. Beside the weird
casing, it has excellent mixes of BT, Sven Vath, Humate and lots of other
artists...I even recall seeing the Depeche Mode name on there. The discs are
beautifully mixed in together... a definite recommendation, and it's coming
from a person that does not rate trance very high in his musical
preferences.

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Subject: (orbital) About off-topic mails & more...
Date: 06 Jun 1999 03:59:23 +0000


I'd just like to say when i read Juno's mail it was EXACTLY how i
felt because you guys were going (halcyon and) on and on about
that... off topic mails are fine to inform people about what other
music they MIGHT like when they like Orbital, but what you guys were
doing is arguing about musical taste, like LP5 is shit or not, and
this is something that can't be discussed and should be left for the
"Oh my god what a great human being i am cuz my musical taste is so
diverse!" sort of people!
I already classified myself as an asshole so i might just as well say
that i wish some people would get straight to the point... Don't get
me wrong, i also like talking other people's head in (like i do just
now actually... ahem), but not for the mere sake of having lotsa cool
looking sentences containing hardly any real information for people
on the list!

Anyway, thanks at this point to Reece for always putting up cool
bootlegs! Wish there'd be more stuff like that on this list!

So, to make this mail Orbital related (finally) I'd just like to ask
if anybody noticed that the Semi-Detached and Attached tracks
on the Peel Session EP are QUITE different to the normal versions?
It's just that even Hexaphim and some discographies didn't notice
that so thought I'd ask around.. Maybe i love Semi-Detached just way
too much, so every little variation is noticed! 8)

That's it, it didn't hurt, did it? I think i"ll shut up for some
months again then till i find something worthy again for the mailing
list, not just "Woohaa, i got my the new album and it's great
(yes, we all DO know that!) / i'm going to the concert / whatever"...

Regards, DeeKay

P.S.: Please don't flame me for not being
P.C./Hippie/LovePeaceTalkOnesHeadIn ! I'm not, i know it, and I'm
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Middle of Nowhere Cover
Date: 05 Jun 1999 19:09:12 PDT


Hey, I don't know if you all have talked about it or not, but on the UK
version of Middle of Nowhere, on the cover, there is a shadowy-looking
picture in the lower right hand corner of a person. Has anyone noticed that
if you look on the inside of the box, directly behind the other picture,
there is another picture? Is this something that is so obvious that it
shouldn't be talked about? I just thought I'd run this by you all.


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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Fwd: (orbital) Middle of Nowhere Cover]
Date: 05 Jun 1999 22:38:01 -0700




Matthew Ford wrote:

> yeah, i noticed it. kinda cool eh?
>
> .matthewford.
>
> Robert Schultz wrote:
>
> > Hey, I don't know if you all have talked about it or not, but on the UK
> > version of Middle of Nowhere, on the cover, there is a shadowy-looking
> > picture in the lower right hand corner of a person. Has anyone noticed that
> > if you look on the inside of the box, directly behind the other picture,
> > there is another picture? Is this something that is so obvious that it
> > shouldn't be talked about? I just thought I'd run this by you all.



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) peel sesh
Date: 06 Jun 1999 16:24:05 +0100


At 03:59 06/06/99 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>So, to make this mail Orbital related (finally) I'd just like to ask
>if anybody noticed that the Semi-Detached and Attached tracks
>on the Peel Session EP are QUITE different to the normal versions?

I reckon they're better, 'cos they fit so perfectly together, and I like
the spoken samples.


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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) sorry off topic
Date: 06 Jun 1999 08:56:04 -0700 (PDT)


yes, i know this is not orbital, but I am wondering what people think of
paul van dyk's 'seven ways'?
please e-mail privately so that we dont offend anyone please.
thanks a lot.
by the way, i DO want everyone to know that Trym Asserson is the bombest
person that I am aware of!  Thanks a lot for all the stuff you send man!
Goodbye for now.

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (Orbital)tour places- stuff
Date: 06 Jun 1999 16:55:52 -0500


I was wondering where the current revenues/cities were set for the
Orbital/Crystal Method tour are.  I heard someone say there was a show
in Worcester, Mass, and I'm going to college there this fall, so I was
wondering when it was.  Also if there's a Houston show, and I know Loopz
probably has all this info, so I'm gonna check it out know.  Reply back
if I'm not gonna find this stuff out there = ).  Oh yeah, just picked up
MoN, and that's all I'm gonna say about it for now = ).
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From: Brandon Invergo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) autechre...hahaha
Date: 06 Jun 1999 19:10:33 -0700 (PDT)


ah ha! another autechre post! anyway, i'll keep this
short and sweet: does anyone know what style ep7 will
be?  will it be kinda like lp5, or are they going to
completely reinvent themselves again?  either one
would be good in my eyes, since lp5 is great and
change is good. if anyone knows of any clips of it
online, please tell me.

that's all for now

brandon

egad! reply privately!  jeez!!! (bitch moan bitch
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Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre...hahaha
Date: 07 Jun 1999 00:34:35 EDT


ONE last autechre tidbit:

a friend of mine (lucky bastard) received a promo copy of autechre's new
release, ep7, and he has posted his reviews/opinions to the URL below.
enjoy.  supposedly the disc is a bit less frantic than lp5.

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/8542/Autechre.html

peace,
.aaron
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From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) orbital/crystal meth tour (fwd)
Date: 07 Jun 1999 08:58:26 -0500


I just got my tix for the show in Tulsa, Ok!   I am soooo stoked!   They
were  $27.00.

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From: Michael David Lyons <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital / Autechre: The Punchline
Date: 07 Jun 1999 10:14:19 +0200 (MET DST)


Hi All,

Well,  no-one  from the list ever answered when I asked who might
have been going to the Orbital gig on May 29th in  Amsterdam.   I
ended  up  not  going  myself,  but did see the entire concert on
television on Friday.  It was essentially the same  set  as  they
played  in  April  in  Amsterdam (in the Paradiso, a much smaller
venue).

So now what was the subject of this e-mail... :-))

I may have told (bragged, boasted) you all how I was hanging  out
at  the  Paradiso during Orbital's sound check, met them, did the
autograph thing, checked out their stage rig, etc.  etc.  What  I
didn't  mention  was  that  an  Autechre track was playing in the
background as I walked up to "P&P" for the first time.

Cryptic punchline:

They seem to like them.

Mike
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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (Orbital/Loopz) - 6th album / Nothing Left Ep / Meetups at Glasto
Date: 07 Jun 1999 23:45:36 +0100


All,

News has been updated to include info on the 6th Album that was started the
other week - YES - u heard right! - Full info on the promos and the general
relaese of Nothing Left Ep (June 21st 1999) - samples soon.

Also ... the Uk Site - wkweb1.cableinet.co.uk/BaDmUtHa will soon close and
will be replaced by www.loopz.co.uk. more on this soon....

There will be a FULL live gig from the 1999 tour (Brixton) online at Loopz
after the US Tour for everyones listening pleasure - but it will only be
Real Audio by order of the boyz.

Loads more updates....visit the www.megadog.net site (which is under
construction).

Anyone meeting up for Glastonbury 1999 - let me know! How about a
pre-Orbital-set meetup party ???????????

Thanx

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
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Subject: (orbital) Getting it at Best Buy?/Old NY show
Date: 07 Jun 1999 19:22:27 EDT


Hey everybody.
  I'm a sucker employee of Best Buy, yes it's true.
I checked the computer system to see how many copies of Middle Of Nowhere
each store will be receiving.  This is just a friendly notice that if you're
planning to get your copy at Best Buy, go early!  Most stores are only going
to receive 2 or 4 copies (with a few getting 5 or a couple more).  I know
there are plenty of Orbital fans in your town not on the funky list, so be
prepared.  Or go to Tower.
  I WANT THE ORBITAL FRISBEE.  Please steal for me.
  Also, I was curious to know where Orbital played in New York for the live
version of Satan that is on the second release of In-Sides...and who was
there?  Thanks.
Bri


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Getting it at Best Buy?/Old NY show
Date: 07 Jun 1999 21:24:54 -0400



>   Also, I was curious to know where Orbital played in New York for the
>   live
> version of Satan that is on the second release of In-Sides...and who was
> there?  Thanks. Bri

Irving Plaza, and I was there!




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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (non-orbital) autechre ep7
Date: 08 Jun 1999 14:44:56 GMT


Picked up my copy on Monday, yes, just had to have it the first day possible
(apart from you lucky individuals with promo copies).

A friend of mine working at Avalanche Records said he thought it was a
collection of old singles by Autechre, is this true? Because to me, they
sound so much like the recent lp5-sound. If I found the track listing, I'd
tell you what songs I like a lot, but track number will suffice until later
..

top three :

11 (pir?)
2 (coec?)
4 (left blank?)

If you liked lp5, get ep7, they're kinda similar but still got some new bits
that really go down well. Also picked up a copy of Peel Sessions, wow, just
get it, I was expecting a kinda similar version of Drane to that on lp5, but
the version on Peel Sessions just kicks.

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Subject: (orbital) Mark S-D - ) Anyone know if the HIA album is out on general relea
Date: 08 Jun 1999 20:56:06 +0100


Hi ,

The only HIA related album that has reared its sexy head is the Pete Namlook
/ Bobby Bird collaboration album called "S.H.A.D.O.2" which is on the Fax
label.
As for HIA release on its jack (as they say in the smog!)...BB wasnt happy
with early tracks so it could be a while if it does appear at all!

Thanx

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Subject: (orbital) AUTECHRE @ AUTECHRE @ AUTECHRE :P
Date: 08 Jun 1999 21:05:02 +0100


All (minus the "this is an orbital-list" posse)

Got Ep7 - derranged, mad, totally confused about it, hard to listen to in
parts but thats the way i like it.

>What I didn't  mention  was  that  an  Autechre track was playing in the
background as I >walked up to "P&P" for the first time.

Someone mentioned this...and i thought i would mention that Paul and
his-other-arf are big Autechre fans. A funny story... maybe... Paul received
his EP7 promo the other week and played the vinyl whilst doing other things.
He said that he stopped doing what he was doing because the music had caught
his mind. He started to attempt to work out the time-signature to the piece
he was listening to. Confusing it was...until he realised that the needle
was stuck and it was repeating the same piece over and over again. It just
sounded like a normal 1990 Autechre track. :)

Well....i get the digest....i suggest u do 2 :P

Thanx

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) (non-orbital) autechre ep7
Date: 08 Jun 1999 21:49:08 +0100


At 14:44 08/06/99 GMT, Trym Asserson wrote:
>
>A friend of mine working at Avalanche Records said he thought it was a
>collection of old singles by Autechre, is this true? Because to me, they
>sound so much like the recent lp5-sound.

they're not from any single I've got - you're right, they do sound very
much like they follow on from LP5.

>If you liked lp5, get ep7, they're kinda similar but still got some new bits
>that really go down well.

Absolutely. If you like LP5, you'll like EP7. If you don't then you won't.
Probably.


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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) AUTECHRE @ AUTECHRE @ AUTECHRE :P
Date: 09 Jun 1999 09:13:32 GMT


>Someone mentioned this...and i thought i would mention that Paul and
>his-other-arf are big Autechre fans. A funny story... maybe... Paul
>received
>his EP7 promo the other week and played the vinyl whilst doing other
>things.
>He said that he stopped doing what he was doing because the music had
>caught
>his mind. He started to attempt to work out the time-signature to the piece
>he was listening to. Confusing it was...until he realised that the needle
>was stuck and it was repeating the same piece over and over again. It just
>sounded like a normal 1990 Autechre track. :)

Funny you should mention it, just recently I listened to "lp5" and my disc
has a scratch (now i know!) on the track "under BOAC" right at the elapsed
time 3:15. What's a co-incidence with Paul's story is that it took me over
half a minute to realise it was playing the same one and a half seconds over
and over.

What gave it away was that the passage seemed to become predictable and I
could follow it, and what I've come to learn about Autechre contradicts just
that.

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From: "Alistair Roylance" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The new Q
Date: 09 Jun 1999 11:20:09 +0000


Hiya,

Long time no post, but I picked the latest copy of Q magazine, which
has a small interview with Orbital, and in it they mention that they
will be playing T in the Park along with the other festivals they've
been confirmed for.....does anyone know (Steve) is this is true, or
is it another Q fantasy !?!

Cheers

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From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) The new Q
Date: 09 Jun 1999 12:25:23 +0200


When and where is T in the park. How many days is it?
It's in Manchester isn't it? I may need to pop up there this summer, I just need to decide when.

Thanks


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> has a small interview with Orbital, and in it they mention that they
> will be playing T in the Park along with the other festivals they've
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> is it another Q fantasy !?!
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From: Jim Laser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Chicago show: venue question
Date: 09 Jun 1999 08:30:19 -0400


I'm going to be at the Chicago show at the Congress and wanted to know a
little about the concert hall.  Ticketmaster doesn't have any info at
all.  First of all, are recording devices allowed?  I want to take my
minidisc recorder but don't want it confiscated.  How have you (to those
who have done it before) "smuggled" your recorder in to a show without
hassle?  Also, if they do find it, do they usually just hold it till the
end of the show, or do they just kick you out?  I know the answers to
these questions will vary from place to place, but send your comments
anyway.  Thanks

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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre ep7
Date: 09 Jun 1999 15:35:29 GMT


> > Also picked up a copy of
> > Peel Sessions, wow, just
> > get it, I was expecting a kinda similar version of
> > Drane to that on lp5, but
> > the version on Peel Sessions just kicks.
> >
>i don't know what everyone is talking about.  on my
>peel session, the songe is called drone, not drane.
>what's going on?

maybe you've got a different version, but i know mine's called drane. and so
does the track listing at the autechre discography site say too. (the
geocities, rather official one). of course, may just be a printing mistake.

anyway, whether it's drane, drone, drane2, draine, etc. etc. it's good!

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From: Reece <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Orbital US Release Special Info [READ ME..]
Date: 09 Jun 1999 17:18:18 +0000



>a:Tracklist-On the import, the first track is entitled "Way Out -->"
>while on the domestic, the title is missing the arrow.

i'm sure that's based on the exit signs in the tube. every time i see that
yellow-on-black sign i think ... spare parts express :)

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From: Reece <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Middle of Nowhere Cover
Date: 09 Jun 1999 17:29:40 +0000


yup indeedy, and i got that exact image on a t-shirt in the post only a
couple of days ago :)

reece

>Hey, I don't know if you all have talked about it or not, but on the UK
>version of Middle of Nowhere, on the cover, there is a shadowy-looking
>picture in the lower right hand corner of a person. Has anyone noticed that
>if you look on the inside of the box, directly behind the other picture,
>there is another picture? Is this something that is so obvious that it
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Subject: (orbital) Sunshadow 99 Eclipse Festival
Date: 09 Jun 1999 17:26:27 +0100


Hi Everyone,

Good News..

The Licence for Sunshadow 99 Eclipse Festival has been approved.!!!!!!

So it's full steam ahead.....

Please check out the Site for Updates on the Line-Up etc.
http://www.sunshadow.com

Thanx for your time
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Subject: (orbital) [acid-dance] Sunshadow 99 Eclipse Festival
Date: 09 Jun 1999 20:42:56 +0100



Hi Everyone,

Good News..

The Licence for Sunshadow 99 Eclipse Festival has been approved.!!!!!!

So it's full steam ahead.....

Please check out the Site for Updates on the Line-Up etc.
http://www.sunshadow.com

Thanx for your time

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From: Ender Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Sunshadow 99 Eclipse Festival
Date: 09 Jun 1999 16:25:44 EDT


Really, that's nice.  But is this going to be another brit-only bash?  I
know America really ain't that great of a hole, but could you guys share
every once in a while?  I'm not talking about Chicago and New York, if you
can go there you can go anywhere.  I live in Charlotte NC, and the one time
Orbital was going to play here (Lollapaloza(sp?)) they cancelled!  Whichever
festival I read about last time, the one with Juno Reactor, would have been
something I would have sold my body to go to.  But I guess that's the way it
goes.  Nobody wants to visit the Yankees.

Thanx for your Time and Space...
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From: Brian Willoughby <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: autechre Peel Session
Date: 09 Jun 1999 14:30:02 -0700


The (US?) release of Peel Session on Nothing has the following track list:

Milk DX
Inhake 2
Drone

I don't know what the original on Warp lists.

P.S.  I'm am lot happier about Middle of Nowhere than I am about LP5.  I do
like a lot of the tracks on LP5 (it helps if I start on track 2 instead of 1),
but it seems slightly toned down from other recent Ae.  MoN takes a while to
get started, and I sometimes skip tracks 1 and/or 2, but once it gets going I
don't feel that it loses its energy!

> > Peel Sessions, wow, just
> > get it, I was expecting a kinda similar version of
> > Drane to that on lp5, but
> > the version on Peel Sessions just kicks.
> >
>i don't know what everyone is talking about.  on my
>peel session, the songe is called drone, not drane.

maybe you've got a different version, but i know mine's called drane. and so
does the track listing at the autechre discography site say too. (the
geocities, rather official one). of course, may just be a printing mistake.


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From: "Chris Kloehr" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: autechre Peel Session
Date: 09 Jun 1999 16:40:10 -0500


<Subject: (orbital) Re: autechre Peel Session



OK - I dont know about anyone else, sounds like I am the only one, but I
swear this is the 50th Autechre message posted to this list in the past
week.   Now, unfortunately, some of us out here dont care much for
Autechre.....yes it is true.  I guess I could just keep hitting the delete
key as usual........but doesnt anyone have much to say about Orbital????   I
guess I will have to wait 3-4 weeks till their US tour starts......then I
see them on July 18th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  WOOO HOOOOO!  Sorry to take up so
much space, but the word "Autechre" is starting to annoy me!  Maybe I am
just having a bad day.

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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital On Virginmega.com
Date: 09 Jun 1999 22:46:11 -0700


Hey kids, Orbital is featured on the home page of
http://www.virginmega.com !!!!

peep it, buy it!

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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital Frisbee
Date: 09 Jun 1999 23:03:39 -0700


A couple of days ago, I posted some interesting info on the domestic
release of MoN and the free frisbee that Virgin Megastore is giving out
with it.
Since then, Ive gotten some emails from people asking me to hook them up
with one because they dont live near a Virgin.
Unfortunatly, I am unable to do this.  The company that releases MoN in
the states (Sire, which unfortunatly is owned by Warner) only made a
small number of these frisbees and distributed them to all of the Virgin
stores - of which my store received a very small amount of.
I dont have enough of these to take loads home and mail off to people,
although I really really wish I could as I myself hate knowing that
theres cool promotional material out there that I cant get (hence, the
Aphex Twin face masks from a few years back that I've been wanting).
However, if the opportunity comes along where I can get my hands on
more  frisbees that I can take home, I will let all on this list know of
such (the folks who personally emailed will know first though).  I cant
make any promises though.

Sorry again,

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Subject: (orbital) new
Date: 10 Jun 1999 09:13:25 -0700 (PDT)



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Subject: RE: (orbital) The new Q
Date: 10 Jun 1999 18:30:49 +0000


Hi,

T in the park is in Scotland  at Balado Airfield, Milnathortkinross.

I have my tickets ;-)

Also I hear Richie Hawtin is playing aka Plastikman - acid all the
way!!!!

YEAH

OpTik



When and where is T in the park. How many days is it?
It's in Manchester isn't it? I may need to pop up there this summer, I just need to decide when.

Thanks


> Long time no post, but I picked the latest copy of Q magazine, which
> has a small interview with Orbital, and in it they mention that they
> will be playing T in the Park along with the other festivals they've
> been confirmed for.....does anyone know (Steve) is this is true, or
> is it another Q fantasy !?!
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Date: 10 Jun 1999 18:30:49 +0000


Hi,

T in the park is in Scotland  at Balado Airfield, Milnathortkinross.

I have my tickets ;-)

Also I hear Richie Hawtin is playing aka Plastikman - acid all the
way!!!!

YEAH

OpTik



When and where is T in the park. How many days is it?
It's in Manchester isn't it? I may need to pop up there this summer, I just need to decide when.

Thanks


> Long time no post, but I picked the latest copy of Q magazine, which
> has a small interview with Orbital, and in it they mention that they
> will be playing T in the Park along with the other festivals they've
> been confirmed for.....does anyone know (Steve) is this is true, or
> is it another Q fantasy !?!
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From: Dan Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) well well...
Date: 11 Jun 1999 15:25:05 -0400


Guess what I finally got.  Jeez, took long enough to get it.  The Middle
Of Nowhere is right now getting it's first spin on my CD player.  I was
beginning to think it would actually happen that I would see them in
concert before I got to hear the new album.  So a question about the
Canadian domestic version of TMoN.  Is there no tracklisting, or am I
blind?

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) well well...
Date: 11 Jun 1999 14:36:26 -0500


I too am finally getting my copy.  I'm going on an hour drive to get a
copy.  None of the music stores in my location will be getting the CD in
for like...2 weeks...so alas I'm going to drive for an hour to get one.  I
think I may order the import as well.?.?  But I'm still uncertain if there
are any differences between the import and local release.

Dan...will let you know what my copy looks like when I finally get it :-).
I so can't wait!

P.S.> I still have a few of those "Digger Orbital Shirts" around here
somewhere...if state side people would like to pick one up before the
concerts.  You can see an example of one at
http://www.jorsm.com/~digger/shirts/

Mail me if interested.

At 03:25 PM 6/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Guess what I finally got.  Jeez, took long enough to get it.  The Middle
>Of Nowhere is right now getting it's first spin on my CD player.  I was
>beginning to think it would actually happen that I would see them in
>concert before I got to hear the new album.  So a question about the
>Canadian domestic version of TMoN.  Is there no tracklisting, or am I
>blind?
Thanks,
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From: Juno Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) US MON (NO FUCKING AUTECHRE !!!)
Date: 10 Jun 1999 12:34:14 PDT


Hey guys.

Bought the MON CD here in the States yesterday (although I had the UK double
vinyl already); I noticed a few differences.

1) On the US CD, "Otono" comes before "Nothing Left 1" ; on the UK vinyl it
is the other way around.

2) The tracks on the CD are thrown together; there isn't much space in
between tracks like the vinyl.

3) London has merged with Sire Records in the US, making FFRR/London
part of WEA's distribution network, and Orbital labelmates with Aphex Twin.
It was cool to see the little old-school Warner Music logo in the lower
corner of the back of the jewel case. I am assuming that Sire will be
reissuing the back catalog because I could only find the Green Album and
Snivilization at two local stores. I called every other store in my area and
they were completely out of every CD !!!

PLUS

4) For those of you SO-CALories out there who don't already know, the
tickets for the July 24 Long Beach show are now on sale.

It's time to RIP SHIT APART !!!

P&P FOREVER !!!!

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) The new Q
Date: 10 Jun 1999 21:40:47 +0200


> Also I hear Richie Hawtin is playing aka Plastikman - acid all the
> way!!!!

he's here tonight, playing in Aquarius, but i ain't going. i dont like
minimal and i can do without detroit (as if he'd play any)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Au-fucking-techre
Date: 11 Jun 1999 01:36:25 +0000


I really tried to be tolerant, but you guys just won't stop, eh?
Going on and on forever about insignificant details... *sigh*

Cheesus Krist!

Thanks to you i am starting to be allergic to the A-word alone!

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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) System 7 remix WoI
Date: 11 Jun 1999 08:46:48 GMT


Got a nice thing in my mail today...

The System 7 remix of Women of Ireland you maybe saw advertised by JC
Derrien earlier this month. Can't wait to get home, can't wait to get home,
what a track to play this friday night!! Only had time to listen to some 30
secs of it this morning, so I'm nearly tripping with expectations.

New albums makes me feel like a small boy on Xmas eve all over again...

Thanks JC for the quick response to the trade! :)

BTW : does anyone remember whereabout on the net they heard about this new
Kraftwerk release? I tried www.kraftwerk.com, but had no luck there.

Regards,

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From: Dan Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) woo hoo
Date: 11 Jun 1999 01:38:37 -0400


Got a ticket.  Goin to the show in Detroit, ya hoo.


Now for the news in this post:  Thought this was odd, I was just
watching Politically Incorrect and I swore he said that Moby would be on
tomorrow.  That should be interesting to hear his thoughts.

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From: Michael Brunet <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) belfast remix?
Date: 11 Jun 1999 14:08:19 +0100


Hello all from a (nearly) constant lurker on the list...
I suppose this is mostly a question for Steve, but maybe some other
informed person can help me out as well. Does anyone know if/where/when the
Sasha remix of "Belfast" will be released? Muzik magazine reported it as
being on the "Human Traffic" soundtrack, which I bought (pretty good IMO,
but certainly not all orbital-styled), but unless Sasha has done a *very*
subtle mix, it's not on there. Maybe it's only on the vinyl release (I
bought CD)? Or maybe it was shelved to be released as a b-side on a proper
Orbital single? Do I detect the meddling fingers of Pete Tong in this
matter : )   ?    Anyway, I'm not a huge fan of Sasha or anything, but if
the mix is completed and the press was apparently told that it would be on
the HT soundtrack, I'd love to know where it has since disappeared to...
Thanks much,

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From: Elliot Bancroft <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Underworld Lyrics
Date: 11 Jun 1999 05:08:39 -0700 (PDT)


Someone ages ago put the lyrics for beaucoup fish Underwords latest
album - does anyone happen to have that address or would be kind enough
to send to on to me?

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Subject: Re: (orbital) woo hoo
Date: 12 Jun 1999 21:49:18 -0400


i *might* be going to the detroit show too
i'm already going to be in detroit then (grad party from my aunt)
but i need to scrounge the money together for the ticket

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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: (Orbital/Loopz) - 6th Album / Nothing Left Ep / New Uk Site soon
Date: 11 Jun 1999 22:17:30 -0700 (PDT)


Mr. Loopz sire:
is there to be no us release of nothing left?
shit man, i was hoping one of the singles would make it stateside.

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From: "Alistair Roylance" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) More Scottish Glee !!!!!
Date: 12 Jun 1999 14:42:42 +0000


This is going to be amazing.

Orbital are confirmed to play The Flux Festival in Edinburgh in the
first week of August.

The Flux Festival is a week long musical festival which is part of
the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. They are set to play on Princes Street
Gardens, underneath the castle in the open air. This is going to be
truly magical.....Edinburgh is totally mad during the festival and
this has to be one of the perfect venues, outdoors in the middle of
the city (which is pretty much 24hrs during the whole of August)
underneath the impressive castle skyline....I just can't wait.

Tickets go on sale this Monday (14th), and if anyone is in the
vacinity...you really should come....this is going to be special.

I must remove this inane grin

Al


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  I just know this time I mean it,
  but this feeling deep inside,
  says it's OK one more time.."
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From: Reece <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) rephlex allstars
Date: 12 Jun 1999 15:47:23 +0000


hey, went to see rephlex allstars last night featuring aphex and bogdan
racynski, and it was pretty wicked. got to talk to aphex twin while he was
sitting in the corner of the stage rocking back and forth. he seemed like a
pretty nice, normal guy, apart from his evil stare. bogdan did a wickedly
banging set with loads of fucked up noise :)

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) MoN
Date: 12 Jun 1999 20:49:21 -0500


Hola All!

I just wanted to share this quick piece of insignificant info...

I picked up the US release of MoN yesterday.....simply wonderful!  Not the
BEST ever Orbital album......but very damn good!  I don't care what anyone
else says!  Any way here is my track listing...if you want to compare to
yours...and yes it is found only on the spine.

1. Way Out
2. Spare Parts Express
3. Know Where To Run (clever play on words) :-)
4. I Don't know you people
5. Otono (It's not Autumn on mine)
6. Nothing Left 1
7. Nothing Left 2
8. Style

That's it....it's wonderful!  If you don't have it go out and get it now!


Thanks,
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) US shows
Date: 12 Jun 1999 19:14:49 PDT


Hey, is anyone on the list planning on going to the Worcester, MA show? Are
you all from the Boston area? If so, we should meet up and have a little
pre-Orbital fun. Also, does anyone know what order the groups will be
playing in? I really don't care for the LoFi Allstars that much. Crystal
Method are a bit repetitive for me also. I saw them at Avalon in Boston, and
I left early, it was such a letdown. Anyway, I don't remember when the first
US show is, but whoever goes, please post the tracklisting and other info.
I'm curious to see if they will the Hartnolls will have a full multimedia
show this time in the states. I sure hope so! Also, for those wonderful
spanish members of the list, make sure you tell me how the festivals go! I
know they are playing in Madrid, Barcelona, and Gibraltor. I would consider
yourselves lucky! Finally, (and this is mostly directed towards Steve Price)
what's the deal with the 6th album. I mean, there was a lot of hype about
Middle of Nowhere's release, and a great deal of delays. Are they
legitamately working on a new album that is realistically going to be
released in 2000, or are you just passing on this info to whet out appetite?
I say this because the Loopz site had info about Middle of Nowhere's release
like 2 years before it was actually released, and the expected release date
wasn't really that accurate. I'm not ridiculing you, but I just want to know
what the deal is. I'm going to studying in Spain for 2 years around that
time (woohoo!), so I hope it comes out and they play Spain the same as they
are for the Middle of Nowhere tour! We should have a pre-Orbital celebration
then too, because you Spanish folks party down! I'll go to every damn
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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) US MON (NO FUCKING AUTECHRE !!!)
Date: 12 Jun 1999 23:54:17 -0700


Juno Jackson wrote:

> Hey guys.
> 1) On the US CD, "Otono" comes before "Nothing Left 1" ; on the UK vinyl it
> is the other way around.
>

This is the same as the UK CD.


> 3) London has merged with Sire Records in the US, making FFRR/London
> part of WEA's distribution network, and Orbital labelmates with Aphex Twin.
> It was cool to see the little old-school Warner Music logo in the lower
> corner of the back of the jewel case. I am assuming that Sire will be
> reissuing the back catalog because I could only find the Green Album and
> Snivilization at two local stores. I called every other store in my area and
> they were completely out of every CD !!!
>

So far, Sire WILL NOT be reissuing Orbital back catalogue.  Polygram is still
releasing the back albums for the time being.  If your local store is out of
stock on the back catalogue-it is because they havent ordered any.  I just got
most of the back catalogue in at my store.


> 4) For those of you SO-CALories out there who don't already know, the
> tickets for the July 24 Long Beach show are now on sale.
>
> It's time to RIP SHIT APART !!!
>

I bought mine!  Although I still think Long Beach is an odd choice for a venue.
Oh well, just as long as Crystal Meth and LoFi Allstars can hear my booing and
Orbital can hear screams Im cool.


> Art of Noise- The Seduction of Claude Debussy

Isnt this an odd album?  I got an advance of it last month and was brilliantly
surprised.  I hope they tour soon too.

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From: dj halcyon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) autechre
Date: 13 Jun 1999 03:06:26 -0600


im so dtrunk, you reallly  have no idea....


autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
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autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Damn...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 11:29:20 +0200


...i just head the Jedi S Sugar Hit Mix of Underworld's Jumbo. Man that
remix kicks butt... underground housey feel... undescribable. Got it in mp3
if anyone wants it...

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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (NON-orbital) system 7 - alpha wave (killer mix)?
Date: 13 Jun 1999 09:54:40 GMT


Ok, I heard some of you people talking about the 19 min. long Alpha Wave
remix by Plastikman. Any of you who've got it either want to

a) part with it? (doubt that.. ;) )
b) make an MP3 of it for me? I'm desperate to have it by now, only to have
while I keep searching for it, ya know. :)

Apparently System 7 are releasing new material in July (oh joy, what a year
this will be!!!) and they're also set for this Homelands festival, I think.

Damn, I'm not gonna be here at that time.

PS: For those of you whining about too much Autechre; give the rest a break,
those mailings are definetely off any kind of suitable list topic and are
best left with your inner self, not the rest of this generally
all-kind-of-electronica listening crowd. There's bound to be silent periods
on the Orbital front and truth to tell, as Jon and Morey (i think it was)
put it, the diversity of this list's topics have really been of great value
to me and has put me to touch with some many great artists I believe I'd
never have picked up on otherwise. Anyway, that's enough of my pile of
bollocks!

Best regards,

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From: Dave O'Connor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) MON & Moby - Play
Date: 13 Jun 1999 12:45:21 -0400


Hey everyone, I finally got MON the other day.  Due to the fact that I have
goten a LOT of new music lately I haven't gotten through the whole thing
yet, but so far (I hate to say it) I'm not that impressed.  Granted, I've
probably only gotten to 4 songs or so, but they just don't seem to have the
depth that I expect from Orbital.  There was some good stuff there, but I'm
hoping that it gets better as I gets better as I get into the album.

The other techno I picked up was Moby - Play...I haven't gotten to all of
this either but I got to a fair amount and it is INCREDIBLE.  It's one of
the best techno albums I've bought in the last few moths.  Lots of
innovative stuff with guitars, singing, samples, etc.  He combines SO many
types of music (techno, folk, hiphop, soul, gospel, rock, etc)...I HIGHLY
recomend this album!
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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) MoN-U$A Track List
Date: 13 Jun 1999 14:35:01 -0400


HEy HeY!

Got the Mon last week!
I'm totally groovin on 3-8, BUTT!!!
I haven't got a clue except for #8-Style which is What on the rest of
it.
I'm sure this has been done earlier, but would some more knowledgeable
Orbiter PLEASE give us the US tracks again.

ASLO!
Who/why would the tracks NOT be listed IF they INDEED have titles.

If this is FFRR, all I've got to say is GRRR!!!
FUCK minimalist graphic design at the expense of information!
Even A-strip-down-E puts their friggin' titles on da disc!

And to Finnish, I feel RIPPED that we don't get the same full edition
picture book that the UK guys get. I smell corporate cost-cutting here.

Steve! can you tell us what ya know on this US deal? and can we get ALLL
of the pics posted on LOOPZ?

'til I know whaz up, I'm crankin'#3! :o

TanX!
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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) tracklisting
Date: 13 Jun 1999 12:15:54 -0700


US People,

The tracklisting to MoN is on the spine of the CD's jewel case - the
same place it is on the import.
Just look around, youll find it. :)

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Damn...
Date: 13 Jun 1999 21:20:20 +0100


At 11:29 13/06/99 +0200, Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>
>...i just head the Jedi S Sugar Hit Mix of Underworld's Jumbo. Man that
>remix kicks butt... underground housey feel... undescribable. Got it in mp3
>if anyone wants it...

I preferred the dub - more like electro than house. But it's far from my
favourite UW track, or my fave Global Comm track. None of the remixes
caught my attention particularly. King Of Snake's supposed to be the next
single, and about time too - I really wanna hear the Dave Clarke mix.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) belfast remix?
Date: 13 Jun 1999 21:20:39 +0100


At 14:08 11/06/99 +0100, Michael Brunet wrote:
>
>Does anyone know if/where/when the
>Sasha remix of "Belfast" will be released? Muzik magazine reported it as
>being on the "Human Traffic" soundtrack, which I bought (pretty good IMO,
>but certainly not all orbital-styled), but unless Sasha has done a *very*
>subtle mix, it's not on there.=20

if it takes about ten minutes of boring swirlyness to get going then it's
probably him ;-)


>Maybe it's only on the vinyl release

the advert in the latest Jockey Slut says has the tracklist , it looks like
track 14 (of 15) on disc two is it - does that track sound a likely
candidate? More importantly is it any good? Or has "the man like" butchered
it? The ad also says it's only on 2xCD and 2xMC, the second disc/tape mixed
by old Tongy.=20

> (I
>bought CD)? Or maybe it was shelved to be released as a b-side on a proper
>Orbital single?=20

I'd rather that than have to pay =A315 with not much on that it I like.=20


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From: Aronne James Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: MON :(
Date: 13 Jun 1999 17:37:39 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from lists: 13-Jun-99 (orbital) MON & Moby - Play by "Dave
O'Connor"@ritvax.i
> Hey everyone, I finally got MON the other day.  Due to the fact that I have
> goten a LOT of new music lately I haven't gotten through the whole thing
> yet, but so far (I hate to say it) I'm not that impressed.  Granted, I've
> probably only gotten to 4 songs or so, but they just don't seem to have the
> depth that I expect from Orbital.  There was some good stuff there, but I'm
> hoping that it gets better as I gets better as I get into the album.

well finally someone to agree with :)
I've only been able to listen to it a few times (borrowed it
froma  friend), but I was very underwhelmed. Especially how everyone
on this list was going nuts over it... oh well, you can't please
everybody all of the time :)

I really liked track 1, but track 2 sounds abolutely horrible.
And then I can't remember how anything else sounded, except for
Style of course because I have the singles. That was the whole
problem with the album - there isn't anything gripping on it.
All the other Orbital albums seem so much more distinctive,
and I could get into them from the first listen. That was part
of what was impressive about their music, it was extremely
catchy without being cheesy (at least to my ears!)
But the new album seems really bland and boring. Other than track 1
and Style the entire rest of the album just seemed to drone
on....
I also hope that after a few more listens I will change my opinion -
I'm enough of an addict that I ordered the album anyway (should
get here is a week I hope)
Maybe I'll post another review of it after I do get to listen to
it for a while.


Regards,
    Aronne "can't wait to get EP7 and Rest Proof Clockwork,
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Middle of Nowhere
Date: 13 Jun 1999 15:07:48 PDT


You know, I must also say that I was a little disappointed with middle of
nowhere. I got it on import at my local Newbury Comics for $20, and I
figured that it would grow on me. I really like tracks 1 and 2, especially
in track 2 when the sample of the women's voice creeps in, that part is
wicked! As for the rest of the album, it is a little bland. Style is a
wonderful song, and nothing left is ok, but it doesn't really have that
orbital vibe that the other albums give me. I used to fall asleep to In
Sides every night becuase it has such a warm feel to it and the tracks blend
together so nicely. Middle of Nowhere lacks this. I know that it is better
than most of the awful techno out there though! Know where to run is a
little tacky and poppy for my tastes, but I'm not going to say that it is
awful. Overall, I like the new album, but it doesn't give me the same tingly
feeling that Insides and Snivilisation give me. I still think that the
Hartnolls have so much more depth and emotion than most techno artists out
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) T shirts
Date: 13 Jun 1999 15:13:07 PDT


Hey, I'm looking to purchase a new Orbital shirt. Mine is looking a bit
faded and crappy. Someone on the list had a tshirt they were selling (I
think it was Digger), but does anyone know if Orbital has a new shirt design
for the new album? Also, does anyone know of any web sites where I can get
old shirts from the other tours? I would really appreciate it! I live in the
US, so it is preferable if I could find a place in the US to by it from
(keep costs down). Thank you all so much. Chao.

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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre
Date: 14 Jun 1999 01:28:27 +0100


At 03:06 13.6.1999 -0600, dj halcyon wrote:
>autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre

speaking of which (to continue to annoy the ae-haters out there ;) I mp3d
all of my ae cds last friday and was listening to their stuff in
alphabetical order (grin). hmm I think I'll have to retract some of my
earlier comments about their new stuff being harsher etc... when I listened
to those 10 hours worth of ae music, and in sorta random order (ie, most of
the tracks out of cd order), they didn't actually sound as different, if
you get my point. this way the tracks sound a bit more refined or a little
bit different, but... not as wildly different as I thought they sounded
when you listen to them in album/ep time order (oldest to newest).
oh and they still rock ;)
also this way I was able to identify better with the tracks from their live
set here on iceland last month, though they were quite different in most
ways (more random whacked out :)
hmm my respect went up a notch again :)



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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Damn...
Date: 14 Jun 1999 05:34:27 +0200


Jon wrote:
> I preferred the dub - more like electro than house. But it's far from my
> favourite UW track, or my fave Global Comm track. None of the remixes
> caught my attention particularly. King Of Snake's supposed to be the next
> single, and about time too - I really wanna hear the Dave Clarke mix.

got that on promo... dave clarke remix is good, better than dave angel's,
but if you ask me, the original is the best.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) worcester show + t-shirts
Date: 13 Jun 1999 23:50:21 EDT


hi orbital folk,
i'm heading out to the worcester massachusetts show, for all those who will
be there.  i'll be wearing digger's red orbital shirt (new age travelers on
the front - orbital on the back).  please stop and say hi to me, the skinny
guy with the red orbital shirt, black dreadlocked hair, 5'6", hanging around
with a pretty goth-looking gal.

as for future t-shirts, i'd be willing to bet that if any new orbital Ts
exist, they'll be selling 'em in bunches at the community service tour.
although i'd be hard pressed to pay $20 for a white shirt with a big black O
on the front... could make that myself with a $5 white shirt and some magic
marker... ;)
peace,
.aaron
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From: Ed Blackshaw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre
Date: 14 Jun 1999 09:46:55 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)



On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 03:06:26 -0600 dj halcyon <[e-mail]> wrote:

#
# im so dtrunk, you reallly  have no idea....
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# autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
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# autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
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# autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
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# autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
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# autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre autechre
# autechre autechre autechre autechre
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I'll just go and get my flamethrower then  ;-)

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From: "Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) autechre - bollocks more like!
Date: 14 Jun 1999 15:48:10 +0200


All this talk of Autechre went to my head and I foolishly went out and bought 'Inculabuna' as people seemed to think that was the best.
It's 78 minutes of incredible dull wibbly wobbly formless semi-musical meanderings. Much like the Aphex Twin stuff I've heard, or Black Dog, but Black Dog are a lot better, they occasionally throw a tune in.
It is nothing like Orbital and it is an insult to anyone with taste and intelligence to mention them on this list.

I hope I've cleared that up.

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Digger T Shirts
Date: 14 Jun 1999 08:24:16 PDT


Hey, how much are those digger T shirts? Will I be able to get one at the
Worcester, MA show? If not, do you ship? Thanks a bunch!

Robert Schultz


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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) autechre - bollocks more like! -Reply
Date: 14 Jun 1999 08:48:44 -0700


Philip ranted:
>>> [Autechre] is nothing like Orbital and it is an insult to anyone
with taste and intelligence to mention them on this list.<<<

Well, at least we avoided insulting you then.

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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre - bollocks more like!
Date: 14 Jun 1999 08:58:42 -0700


"Gargin, Philip (Frankfurt)" wrote:

> I hope I've cleared that up.
>

You havent.


>
> Let's talk about Black Dog.
>

Let's talk about Plaid instead.  : )

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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) autechre - bollocks remark!
Date: 14 Jun 1999 16:25:27 GMT


>All this talk of Autechre went to my head and I foolishly went out and
>bought 'Inculabuna' as people seemed to think that was the best.
>It's 78 minutes of incredible dull wibbly wobbly formless semi-musical
>meanderings. Much like the Aphex Twin stuff I've heard, or Black Dog, but
>Black Dog are a lot better, they occasionally throw a tune in.
>It is nothing like Orbital and it is an insult to anyone with taste and
>intelligence to mention them on this list.

Try on

Drane, Stop Look Listen, 777, Rae, Fold4Wrap5, Piezo, Nil, Pir, Second Peng,
Kalpol Intro...

...if you still think AE don't put in any tune, then you've probably not got
the intelligence to recognise quality music and are probably the one with
the distorted tastebuds, so don't come here with hollow remarks on the works
of Autechre. Then again, you did get Inculabuna, apparently everyone i know
don't like that album very much.

...if still no reaction; you're probably like my flatmate who recently
requested i stop playing "Drane" (peel sessions) with the remark "that's not
music, it's just a lot of sounds with a high-pitch shrill noise on top" ...
and then he went back to his own room and put on Vengaboys' "Boom boom boom
boom" on repeat 15 times.

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From: "Fanno, Jeff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Got tix!
Date: 14 Jun 1999 09:43:29 -0700


Hi OrbitalHeads,
   I just want to relay my story about getting my tickets for the Orbital
show in San Diego/LA.  First of all, stupid ticketmaster doesn't have a
freakin clue.  I called on Friday to get some information, and they had none
whatsoever in the computers.  I found out that the tix went on sale this
past Saturday at 10 a.m.  So I went to my local Tower Records to purchase
them.  I told the gal that I wanted two tix for the July 24th show in Long
Beach for the Community Service Tour.  There was nothing in her computer
about this show.  To make a long story, short after about five or so phone
calls to different people, she was finally able to bring up the show on her
monitor.  I also noticed- much to my chagrin that Orbital was spelled
'Orbitol' in their system.  What fucking morons!  I finally got my tix after
about 15 minutes of her trying to locate the concert.  After that, I asked
her if tickets were also on sale for the July 21st show in San Diego,
figuring that since a show 3 days later was on sale the same day. But I had
yet to hear or read any advertisement or publicity (other than of course the
Orbital mailing list) for this show.  As it turned out they were also on
sale. So of course I bought two tix.  And there were five dollars less than
the Long Beach show!   I can't believe that I had not seen one advertisement
in any paper, and I had not heard one commercial for this show.  Unless they
hype it up a bit, its going to be one intimate show-which of course I am not
complaining about.  Well thanks for listening.   Anyone out there going to
the San Diego or Long Beach Shows drop me a line!  C-ya.



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From: Michael David Lyons <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre - bollocks more like!
Date: 14 Jun 1999 16:07:22 +0200 (MET DST)


> It is nothing like Orbital and it is an insult to anyone with taste
> and intelligence to mention them on this list.

I don't recall anyone ever saying that Autechre was "like" Orbital, and still
feel that it's a bit inane to try to restrict postings in this list to
"Orbital-only" content. Imagine doing the same thing in "real life." ;-)

Taste and intelligence are variables, so YMMV.

As far as Autechre's "Incunabula" goes, it certainly does have "tunes"
as it were, and many tracks having a distinct hummable melody, so you
can do your own little sing-along after all.

Which is allows for this smooth transition into Orbital-land :-)...

One of the funniest things that I ever heard was Paul Hartnoll walking
around in the Paradiso in Amsterdam  *whistling* "Spare Parts Express"

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From: "Jim L. Jones" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) autechre - back to orbital
Date: 14 Jun 1999 13:01:36 -0400


Oh, I get it now..
even though this is the Orbital mailing list, if there are
other groups that P&P are into, then they're allowed to be
discussed also...  hmnnn....

been watching these autechre threads lately....
personally I haven't heard enough of them to say anything so
I won't, but I will comment that I think Middle Of Nowhere is
awesome... Finally picked it up over the weekend...

Steve, if you talk to the boys.. please tell them most excellent
job coming from someone who is an orbital 2/diversions timeframe
fan....

you all didnt even give a hint on how good this is.... :-)

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From: Wigan Ludgate <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre - back to orbital
Date: 14 Jun 1999 10:41:47 -0700 (PDT)




> I won't, but I will comment that I think Middle Of
> Nowhere is
> awesome... Finally picked it up over the weekend...
>
> you all didnt even give a hint on how good this
> is.... :-)
>
> Jim J.
>

i must agree. I was lucky enough to be an American who
stumbled across the UK release of MON nearly a month
before the US release date. It was rather expensive,
and I was going to hold out until the June 8th US
date, that was until I decided to listen to it. While
i think Orbital is definately moving towards a more
emotionally violatile soundtrack-ish stage, I don't
see why anyone would site this as a complaint. This
album is absolutely amazing. Other than this CD I have
listened to maybe one other CD (Moby's new Play (not
counting the singles) since I bought it, and i am
continually impressed. I am eadgerly awaiting the
release of the Nothing Left singles, despite the
initial disappoint of the Style singles. Speaking of
which, i have since grown to appreciate the Style
singles, especially track 2 on disc one and track 3 on
disc two. I wonder why i didnt really enjoy them until
i heard the album. hmmmm. anyway, if you haven't
picked up MON dont buy another CD until you get it,
the first two songs are fantastic, light, upbeat,
moving into each other with perfect transition, almost
Box-like, while the the middle of the album is darker
and more fierce. Nothing Left Parts 1 and 2 are still
my favorite though, and i am going crazy waiting for
those singles.

so if anyone knows when they are going to be released
in either the US or the UK lemme know please:)

also, i want to go see Orbital in Atlanta, but
Ticketmaster's usual ingnorance refuses to even
indicate that they are playing, much less headlining.
I am confused, how could it be possible that they
would open for the Crystal Method? I mean, i actually
like Method, unlike a lot of people, but they aren't
really why i would be going. Explanations?

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From: "Dr. Funkenstein" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) MON my complete review
Date: 14 Jun 1999 13:41:16 -0400


Well, I listened to MON once through completely and then went back to
re-check out a couple tracks....

Track 1: Decent, the sax and trumpet are pretty cheesy though.  Maybe I've
been listening to too much good acid jazz...

Track 2: Some of the pitch "tweaks" are just horrible...they sound like
they were done by an amateur making cheesy techno on their home computer.
However, the second half of the track is pretty good.

Track 3: ok

Track 4: Is this a Prodigy album?  What the hell are those repeditive
samples in the first part of the track...they're almost unbearable!  The
songs gets a little better as it goes along but it's just not a good track.

Track 5: Good, not the best vocal smaple but decent.

Track 6: I could go for a little more delay but overall it's a GOOD song.
What I like about Orbital songs is that they're BIG...lots of different
samples, beats, synths, etc going on at once.  There's good low and high
end sounds at once...this song does that for most of it.  The only places
where it's "trancyness" gets cheesy is where there's not enough going on.
But overall I like this osng a lot...the vocal sample is AWESOME!

Track 7: Starts slow but then it starts sounding a lot like 6 and gets
good.  Another good song.

Track 8: TOO MANY CHEESY SYNTH RIFFS!!!  the vocal sample towards then end
isn't great but the song is decent overall.

I guess I'd have to say that I am pretty disappointed with this album.
What I like about Orbital is that their songs are really intricate: lots of
things that you really have to listen hard for to distinguish.  This album
is too simple.  Many of the songs have really cheesy/really obvious synth
sounds on them.  Synths are okay but you need something to back them up and
echo/delay to make them sound more full.  This album has was too many
synths just plopped onto the track.  I'm sure that P&P worked very hard on
this album but to be honest it really doesn't sound like it.  How can I
respect the music on this album when you compare it to things like the full
version of the Box?  That song was a MASTERPIECE!  Insides sounds like it
took time to make: lots of things going on at once, lots of VERY different
sounds brought together to somehow make harmony.  If you didn't think about
it, you didn't even notice that syths were making most of the sounds you
were hearing.  This album has lots of clashing harmonies, ugly/obvious syth
sounds, and in places just plain noise!  I'm sure people will blast me for
this review, and I encourage them to...I REALLY want to know what peoiple
like about this album...people sseem to like it and I _honestly_ don't know
what they see in it.  Parts of it are pretty good but as a whole I don't
think it's a very strong album at all.

BTW I sould add that up to this point I've been a strong advocate of
Orbital against those who say they're all "mainstream" and stuff.  I am a
huge fan of everything from Insides on back.  I think their work until now
has been really original and demonstrative of their talent.  MON just falls
flat for me.  Replies that explain what you like about the album
(specifically) are very welcome!
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From: [e-mail] (Michael Mccomb)
Subject: (orbital) MoN finally arrives - ACTUAL ORBITAL CONTENT!!!
Date: 14 Jun 1999 16:48:09 -0300


Hey folks!

Out of lurking mode long enough to throw my brief review of the new (to me!)
album. I finally had a chance to pick up the Canadian domestic copy on Friday
and got to listen to it a few times over the weekend.

Way Out (BTW, I can confirm there is no "-->" on the Cdn pressing either) --
You know how some tracks just *sound* like an album introduction?  This is one
of them to me. Can't say I love it --yet-- but I know it'll grow on me.

Ditto goes for Spare Parts Express -- very weird synth stuff going on here -- I
like it, but I still need some more time to listen to it. And anyone who says
that Orbital is just regurgitating In Sides had better listen to this track
again. There's some very un-Orbital sounding stuff going on here. Dare I say it
sounds somewhat Autechre-ish? No flames from the Autechre haters please! I'm
only commenting on what I hear!

Know Where to Run and, er, the fourth track (sorry, the name eludes me at the
moment) is where the album REALLY gets going. I LOVE these two already after
only a couple of listens. Track 4 especially kicks some major BUTT! Sure to be
a classic!

Oto±o - (Spanish spelling on the Cdn pressing, BTW)  Maybe this has been talked
about already and I missed it, but can anyone hear a few of the same elements
as An Fhomhair (sp?) ?? Is one a remix of the other? If I had to guess, I would
say that the b-side is a remix or reworking of the album track, but can anyone
shed some light on this? My impression on the song? This track fits in well
with the album. It's a little more down-tempo after the thumping beat of the
previous track, so it works for me.

Nothing Left -- Ahhh yesss! Another in the great Orbital tradition of spreading
a song over multiple tracks (s.f. Lush 3, The Box and Out there Somewhere?).
This is surely one of the highlights of the album. Why don't they make that
singer a permanent part of the band?

Style -- I'm sure enough has been said about this already. Quirky and
wonderful. Not sure it works very well as an album closer, though.

That's all I 've got to say about the album. At first listen, I can't say it's
my favourite Orbital, but only time will tell.

BTW, I picked up the new Chemical Bros single "Hey Girl Hey Boy" or whatever
it's called. Is anyone out there as unexcited as me with yet another recycled
old rap song? I can't say this is the worst song I've ever heard, but it
certainly ranks low on the inspiration scale as far as I'm concerned.

Cheers,

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Digger Tshirt
Date: 14 Jun 1999 12:59:07 PDT


Maybe I didn't make it so blatantly obvious before, but how and where do I
get one of those digger t shirts? Is it a mail order thing or can I pick one
up at the Worcester show, and if so, for how much money? Also, I hear that
there is a new shirt of a giant black O on a white shirt, but I have heard
from a friend in the UK that there is also a new shirt of the shadowy
looking dude from the cover of MoN. Can anyone confirm this? Finally, does
anyone know if the "Spaceboys" tshirt is still available. I neglected to
pick one up at Lollapolooza a couple years back, but I want one now. If
anyone has any relevent info, please get back to me directly. I appreciate
it.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Sasha remix of Belfast
Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:34:56 +0100


Mike/All

I saw Human Traffic (excellent film) - and yep...its the original Belfast
that features in the film. Unknown about whether Sashas remix will
emerge...Paul was also unsure when i mentioned it the other week. If i find
out....i will mail...but it may turn into another "Visit"

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Nothing Left release date changed
Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:36:03 +0100


All,

Nothing Left Ep will be released on July 7th 1999 - the date has recently
changed - more info - www.loopz.co.uk

There will be no US release date it appears

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital @ Edinburgh
Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:37:25 +0100


>Orbital are confirmed to play The Flux Festival in Edinburgh in the
>first week of August.

Hi,

This was still UNCONFIRMED as of last week....i know London Records are
mentioning it and its also mentioned on the Loopz site...but i havent heard
that it is confirmed as yet. Be careful :)

Thanx

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Rephlex Night
Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:39:11 +0100


>hey, went to see rephlex allstars last night featuring aphex and bogdan
>racynski, and it was pretty wicked. got to talk to aphex twin while he was
>sitting in the corner of the stage rocking back and forth. he seemed like a
>pretty nice, normal guy, apart from his evil stare. bogdan did a wickedly
>banging set with loads of fucked up noise :)

I was there too....not a bad night all round. RDJ was quite amusing i
thought...hiding behind the speakers at the beginning of the night. Cylob
did an interesting set but i have to admit Racynski just made me laff my
nuts off when he got told off by the bouncer for dancing - stupid bouncers!

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) 6th album - whats the crack ?
Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:46:47 +0100


>what's the deal with the 6th album. I mean, there was a lot of hype about
>Middle of Nowhere's release, and a great deal of delays. Are they
>legitamately working on a new album that is realistically going to be
>released in 2000, or are you just passing on this info to whet out
appetite?
>I say this because the Loopz site had info about Middle of Nowhere's
release
>like 2 years before it was actually released, and the expected release date

>wasn't really that accurate. I'm not ridiculing you, but I just want to
know
>what the deal is.

Ok...lets get a quote in here first..The Loopz site does say  "No release
date has been decided but mid 2000 looks likely" - so please dont expect it
out Mid 2000 - this is just a guess date.
Why have i mentioned it ? - When i asked Paul if there was anything he
wanted to mention on the site...he said that i could mention the album. So i
did. I think its good to know that they are actively trying to get more new
material on the go already even though they have half a studio set up at the
moment.
As for the Loopz site have TMON release date 2 years out...thats complete
bollox - cmon...2 years. The release dates on the site are taken from either
London Records, Orbital or their press person. If London decide not to
release the album because they dont want to release it near Xmas then i cant
help that. TMON was originally slated for a summer release of 1998...but it
got delayed and the later half of the year was not what London wanted -
hence why they went for April.

Please remember....A group is always controlled by the people above...they
cant help release date slips.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre :P
Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:50:38 +0100


>It's 78 minutes of incredible dull wibbly wobbly formless semi-musical
meanderings. Much >like the Aphex Twin stuff I've heard, or Black Dog, but
Black Dog are a lot better, they >occasionally throw a tune in.
>It is nothing like Orbital and it is an insult to anyone with taste and
intelligence to mention >them on this list.

ack...try another release. You have just heard one album by them...ack ack
ack.

Black Dog ? prefer Plaid!

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Remix Compo 1999 / Online Discussion at Loopz
Date: 14 Jun 1999 23:06:48 +0100


All,

LOOPZ SITE

There is now a Discussion Online Forum to enable people to chat regarding
the site and Orbital in general. You can find it in the MISC section. Please
post your messages to get the section up and running...start threads - hope
it catches on :)

There are loads more live dates/festivals that have been confirmed plus one
or two that are still in the unconfirmed state. Hopefully these will be
confirmed or not confirmed in the next week.

Remix Competition 1999 - number 3 - will start in July 1999 - Rules will be
posted soon. Lets hope it is as good as the previous two!

www.loopz.co.uk

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From: Brian Willoughby <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Tower advertises Middle of Nowhere
Date: 14 Jun 1999 15:38:46 -0700


I just noticed that Tower Records has devoted an entire ad in the Seattle
local rag "the Stranger" for their sale on Middle of Nowhere.  With that kind
of exclusive local support, it just makes it even more surprising that Orbital
are not stopping in Seattle for their MoN tour as they did for InSides.

Last time around, Orbital played in an abandoned train station - what an
excellent choice!  The sound was quite boomy, and they had to turn the volume
way too high to overcome that, but I wouldn't suggest that Orbital skip
Seattle altogether!  If they just need a better venue, I would suggest one of
the giant cement band practice warehouses in South Seattle.  Very industrial
feel, and several "raves" have been staged there.  Certainly enough room to
handle the crowds that Orbital would draw.

After reading someone mention the San Diego date (which I was unaware of)
just three days after the Long Beach date, I'm wondering if Orbital may be
playing Seattle and I just haven't heard...

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Subject: Re: (orbital) MON complete review (read me)
Date: 14 Jun 1999 20:07:52 EDT


Dr. Funk wrote:
"I guess I'd have to say that I am pretty disappointed with this album.
What I like about Orbital is that their songs are really intricate: lots of
things that you really have to listen hard for to distinguish.  This album
is too simple.  Many of the songs have really cheesy/really obvious synth
sounds on them."

I'm actually surprised I haven't read more of these messages.  Although, I
may have an opposite opinion.  I believe that because the tracks and samples
lack fluidity and harmony, it is too much of an earful...aka, too complex.
(Like Dr. Funk wrote...this album lacks "things that you really have to
listen hard for to distinguish.")  (I know I'll get screamed at for
this...but hear me out).  With albums like In-sides, there are numerous
tracks layered together (much more than our poor minds can handle), but the
sound is simple, playful, and easy.  With such loud single synth tracks mixed
together, I feel that what Middle of Nowhere lacks more than anything else is
atmosphere.  Each of their previous albums has it's own unique and numbing
feel.  Could this lack of atmosphere be from the fact that with this album
the brothers went to each track on the album time and again simply adding
tracks each time?  Possibly.  In my music writing experience, that sort of
practice leads to all songs on an album sounding very similar, often lacking
that one ingredient that could be misinterpreted as heart, the little things
that put songs over the edge in your mind.

I believe that the main goal in writing music is to please the creators
themselves, whether therapeutic or such.  If the brothers wanted to write a
rock/loud synth album, god bless them.  If I don't like it, I'll play their
work that I do like (and we all do have quite a library by this time).

Orbital is like Wendy's.  You can order something new, and you may not like
it, but you can rest assured that it's much better than anything you can get
at McDonald's.  Orbital is all about the quality.
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) chime live free with NME
Date: 15 Jun 1999 01:28:49 +0100


anybody else got the latest NME with a Glastonbuy classics CD on the front?
Track ten is Chime from Orbital's '94 set, and it's not bad. The rest of
the disc's a load of indie toss (it is the NME after all!), but never mind,
eh?


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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) MON complete review (read me)
Date: 15 Jun 1999 21:58:28 -0400


>I believe that the main goal in writing music is to please the creators
>themselves, whether therapeutic or such.  If the brothers wanted to writ=
e a
>rock/loud synth album, god bless them.  If I don't like it, I'll play th=
eir
>work that I do like (and we all do have quite a library by this time).

that's how it should be with any art form..
that's how it is for me n my writing

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From: Chris Basford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Damn...
Date: 14 Jun 1999 20:14:16 +0100


In message , Daniel Kasaj <[e-mail]> writes :

[KoS]
>got that on promo... dave clarke remix is good, better than dave angel's,
>but if you ask me, the original is the best.

Yeah, I've got the promo as well. Dave Clarke's mix is very good. Fatboy
Slim has remixed it as well for the official single release. It hasn't
been decided whether the mixes by Dave Clarke / Angel are going to be
released commercially though.



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Subject: Re: (orbital) Damn...
Date: 15 Jun 1999 08:55:42 +0200


Chris wrote:
> Yeah, I've got the promo as well. Dave Clarke's mix is very good. Fatboy
> Slim has remixed it as well for the official single release. It hasn't
> been decided whether the mixes by Dave Clarke / Angel are going to be
> released commercially though.

On the Fatboy Slim note, a friend played me part of his set yesterday,
and you know what I heard on there? Born Slippy pitched up a little,
with constant scratches and some female vocal samples thrown randomly
over. It sounded like that Renegade Master track.. and FBS did this live.
Now I don't mind having FBS do acrobatics with UW on his live sets,
but do we really want him remixing Underworld ?

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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Damn...
Date: 15 Jun 1999 00:03:30 -0700


I think the question should be do we really want Fatboy Slim period

.matthewford.

Daniel Kasaj wrote:

> On the Fatboy Slim note, a friend played me part of his set yesterday,
> and you know what I heard on there? Born Slippy pitched up a little,
> with constant scratches and some female vocal samples thrown randomly
> over. It sounded like that Renegade Master track.. and FBS did this live.
> Now I don't mind having FBS do acrobatics with UW on his live sets,
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From: "Andy Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) NME Glastonbury Highlights CD
Date: 15 Jun 1999 09:34:38 GMT


Nobody seems to have mentioned the free CD on the cover of this
week's NME. It has a selection of highlights from Glasto over the
last few years by Oasis, Pulp, The Verve etc...and has Orbital's
'Chime' from their 1994 appearance at Worthy Farm. It's 8 minutes in
length and sounds great!

Perhaps this has been mentioned. Perhaps I missed it?

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Subject: (orbital) questions..
Date: 15 Jun 1999 11:13:37 EDT


Hello all, tiny old lurker here -
Sorry this is off topic but I have several questions...Someone on this list
recommended Paul van Dyk's remixes (92-98) and I just purchased it.  However
there are 3 cd's in the set and my first and second one are exactly the same.
(or so it sounds)  My question: is that the way it's designed to be or did I
just happen to get a faulty cd?  Also, Is anyone out there familiar with
source direct?  I was told it was worth getting but I'm not sure what it's
sound is - perhaps someone could fill me in, please?  Last question, is the
UK green album still being sold, and if so, where/how can I go about getting
it?  I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone could help me out here (via private
e-mail)....Much thanks!
France
Oh....is not one person from the list going to the NYC show?


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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) bollocks - autechre more like! , P.E.T.R.O.L. (ambient remix)
Date: 11 Jun 1999 21:56:38 +0100



>All this talk of Autechre went to my head and I foolishly went out and
bought 'Inculabuna' as people seemed to think that >was the best. It's 78
minutes of incredible dull wibbly wobbly formless semi-musical meanderings.

I think you wrote this on purpose to wind people up, so I'm most likely
being a twat just writing this but...DULL AND WIBBLY WOBBLY ?!! ...Formless
?! ...I'm in shock, I think I need to go and put a wet towel over my head
and eat some luke warm porridge...and I think *you* need to sit in a dark
room and listen to this LP with headphones, and silently meditate upon the
meaning of the words wibble, wobble, dull, formless, musical and
meanderings ! This is not a flame, I just really think you've missed
something here, I am a deeply caring individual and I have you're best
interests at heart...bwahahahhaha !

I'm pulling my hair out, I'm chewing the hair ! I can't believe this
really...And another thing I read, whats this about falling asleep to
In-Sides ? It was a compliment and thats sweet but think for a moment....
...Petrol ?  ..and...erm...sleep ? and erm...Petrol ? and...and...sleep ?
Petrol ? Sleep ? ...SLEEP !! NO!!! It's a nightmare !! Arrgggh !! I've
never tried it I admit but we are talking cold sweats here, it's not
exactly fluffy sheep bouncing around in slow motion is it ? And after all
isn't that what everybody wants ?! Do you want the sheep to be on fire ? Is
that what you are saying here ? Is it ? Is it ?! Well ! You sick little
monkey...you want to get a grip and have some good taste in music like me
and like nobody else has ! And don't say I'm wrong because I'll go and
mention Autechre again, oooohh then you'll be sorry ! It'll become a
moderated list, if your underwear isn't fashionable enough...well, I don't
even want to say what will happen to you because it's all so horrid ! (sob
! wail ! )

I *do* hope that clears things up. Yeah right !  :-) I'm now off to insult
my own intelligence because it doesn't answer back, well, not always...

Bye for now :-)

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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) MoN Stickers
Date: 15 Jun 1999 16:17:08 -0400


Well I dropped by the used CD place yesterday to see what MoN was
selling for and low and behold they're giving out FREE stickers!
These are yellow circles [6" diam] with tiny brown type at top saying
"Middle of Nowhere" and "orbital" at the bottom. Outside of the circle
at the bottom right is the little shadowy figure in brown.

Unfortunately for those with sticker-covered cars, these are printed on
paper and not durable vinyl or plastic [FFRR is a CHEAP MF!]

I've only got 3 more but will check the other store. Luckily I'm the
only guy in KnoXville who would DIE for a FRISBEE

Shannon
<mailto:"[e-mail]">

"For those who like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they
like."
                -- Abraham Lincoln
DAMN!


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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) MON my complete review
Date: 15 Jun 1999 19:00:44 +0100


Track 1: Decent, the sax and trumpet are pretty cheesy though.  Maybe I've
been listening to too much good acid jazz...

trumpet cheesy? lumo's the bollocks. i saw him live again on saturday, and i
would advise everyone to buy all his music ever.

reece



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From: Dan Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Damn...
Date: 16 Jun 1999 00:04:37 -0400


Matthew Ford wrote:
>
> I think the question should be do we really want Fatboy Slim period

I know I do.  I enjoy his live sets muchly.

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (Orbital) Review of MoN and general observations.
Date: 15 Jun 1999 23:35:45 -0500


Ok, I don't know a lot about music, so I'm not gonna go on about why I
like Orbital or any other music for that matter.  The most influential
albums for me were green and Insides, probably the latter being my
favourite right now.  Songs like The Box, The Girl With the Sun in Her
Head, and Dwr Budr really move me every time I'm in a melancholic mood
(which is more often than not), and many Orbital tracks just get me
extremely emotional, with their flowingness and numbness, and I have no
idea what.  I really don't find Snivilazation very special, although I
like many tracks on it out of their quantness (I love Kein Trink
Wasser).  Green is strange because it's older, and faster, and unique,
and Brown just doesn't stand out for me.  I like Lush all right, and
Halcyon is great, but the album is over too fast.

It seems like Orbital has taken a new direction with MoN, though.  I
like it, and it seems somewhat more mainstream (which I think the
Hartnolls proclaimed).  The sounds seem more harsh, and a little older,
in a sense, than on Insides.  I don't really know what to say.  I love
Style (especially the sample), and I think the words on Otono are really
stupid = ).

One interesting tidbit- I think I saw a Way Out plaque in the subway in
London on the new Austin Powers movie (it's on the back wall when
they're tracking Fat Bastard).  Could someone confirm that?

Well, that should be all for now.  I don't post a lot, but when I do...
Oh yeah, I wanted to apologize for starting the whole Autechre thing.  I
didn't mean for so many people to get angry about it (they provided half
of the postings that they were getting angry about it).  Is there an
Autechre mailing list??

Marc Sawaya

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Damn...
Date: 15 Jun 1999 21:17:46 +0200


Matthew Ford wrote:
> I think the question should be do we really want Fatboy Slim period

oh my god! they killed norman! you bastards !!!

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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) T shirts
Date: 15 Jun 1999 19:00:51 +0100


yeah, i got a flyer with about 9 new t-shirt designs for sale - i got one
with a walking figure on the front and 3 on the back, and my friend ben is
waiting for one with a demolition sequence on it. i'll find a phone number
for you if you like...

reece

>Hey, I'm looking to purchase a new Orbital shirt. Mine is looking a bit
>faded and crappy. Someone on the list had a tshirt they were selling (I
>think it was Digger), but does anyone know if Orbital has a new shirt
design
>for the new album? Also, does anyone know of any web sites where I can get
>old shirts from the other tours? I would really appreciate it! I live in
the
>US, so it is preferable if I could find a place in the US to by it from
>(keep costs down). Thank you all so much. Chao.





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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Rephlex Night
Date: 15 Jun 1999 19:10:13 +0100


so who was the absolutely mental dj (long brown hair, dressed in black) who
kept on fucking up his minidiscs and just spent the set jumping around like
mad? some norwiegan guy called rocket or something? he was the most
entertaining dj i've ever seen, and the music was banging. it was hilarious
when he'd swap his mds and try to compensate by making odd noises into the
mic. rdj said he hardly played because the room he was in was separated from
the main room by a curtain, so he couldn't hear what he was doing, and quit.
i think he mentioned the next rephlex party might be at the drome at london
bridge, a decent venue i went to on saturday.

reece

ps. so steve, is this the 5th event we've both been at in the last 6 months
when we've failed to meet? one day, matey, one day :)

>I was there too....not a bad night all round. RDJ was quite amusing i
>thought...hiding behind the speakers at the beginning of the night. Cylob
>did an interesting set but i have to admit Racynski just made me laff my
>nuts off when he got told off by the bouncer for dancing - stupid bouncers!



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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) NewKool (nON-Orbital)
Date: 16 Jun 1999 11:20:43 -0400


Hey Orbiters!

Just had to tell you 'bout an amazing disc that really trances me out
and I think many here will enjoy for its complexity and SCHMOOV-ness!

The guy's real name is Aam Dorn and I wonder if he's at all related to
Micheal Dorn <aka Warf from DS9 and StrTrkNG>. Anyway, Adam is a jazz
bass player and music producer who is gone tech and making great tracks.

His stage/recording name is Mocean Worker and his latest disc is "Mixed
Emotional Features". It's on Palm Records, marketed by Rykodisc. The
packaging alone is worth a look {slick paper inserted into a black
plastic frame with louvered left edge}.
[Orbital should call Ryko, IMO]

I haven't been to this site yet, but it's listed on the back as:

http://www.islandlife.com

Cheers[or as they say in TN, 'Talkatcha Later'!]

Shannon
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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Fwd: (orbital) NewKool (nON-Orbital)]
Date: 16 Jun 1999 08:45:14 -0700




Matthew Ford wrote:

> Adam Dorn is badass.  If you folks get a chance to, pick up his first album
> entitled "Home Movies From The Brainforest" which is currently out of print.
> No relation to Star Trek's Michael Dorn but his dad is a very famous Jazz
> musician who's name I cant remember who has worked with alot of the big Jazz
> names such as Miles Davis.
>
> RykoDisc/PalmPictures is a badass label.
>
> .MatthewFord.
>
> "Shannon K. Campbell" wrote:
>
> > Hey Orbiters!
> >
> > Just had to tell you 'bout an amazing disc that really trances me out
> > and I think many here will enjoy for its complexity and SCHMOOV-ness!
> >
> > The guy's real name is Aam Dorn and I wonder if he's at all related to
> > Micheal Dorn <aka Warf from DS9 and StrTrkNG>. Anyway, Adam is a jazz
> > bass player and music producer who is gone tech and making great tracks.
> >
> > His stage/recording name is Mocean Worker and his latest disc is "Mixed
> > Emotional Features". It's on Palm Records, marketed by Rykodisc. The
> > packaging alone is worth a look {slick paper inserted into a black
> > plastic frame with louvered left edge}.
> > [Orbital should call Ryko, IMO]



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From: Anil Prasad <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) MON UK Scan needed
Date: 16 Jun 1999 09:29:14 -0700


Dear members of snivilised society:

I need to get a 180 DPI scan of the second issue
of Middle of Nowhere. Not the ltd. edition version
in slipcover, but rather the non-ltd version with
the green 'O' on the cover. If you can help me out,
please drop me a line.

Thanks,
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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) (Orbital) Review of MoN and general observations.
Date: 16 Jun 1999 11:36:34 +0100


>One interesting tidbit- I think I saw a Way Out plaque in the subway in
>London on the new Austin Powers movie (it's on the back wall when
>they're tracking Fat Bastard).  Could someone confirm that?


yup, it's there. they're everywhere. (otherwise how else would people find
their way out of the tube?)

reece




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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) a few thoughts
Date: 16 Jun 1999 13:28:03 -0500 (EST)


i don't post much anymore, but i thought i'd chip in a couple thoughts
about MoN, since the discussion is finally getting somewhat interesting.

track 1 - i like, but the melody is a bit too simple. the horns just dont'
cut it. but the breakbeat is great...

track 2 - the lead-in from "way out" is, for me, one of those
quintessential orbital moments, similar to lush 3-1 --> lush 3-2. i _love_
the synth in this song. i don't understand how anyone could find it
amateurish or cheesy. it's uplifting and complex (there's plenty of reverb
and echo shit going on in there - have another listen!) and takes me back
to the golden age of layered synths in orbital 2. the only place where the
track loses it is in the middle where it becomes all filmish and less
dance-ish.. but there are a lot of different parts and sections, so that
makes me happy. anyway, this is by far my favorite track.

track 3- terrible, slow start, but really starts to kick in the middle
with that organ sample - you know the one i'm talking about.

track 4- ditto on what the other guy said - prodigy? what the fuck? unplug
the guitars boys, this is techno. (oh sorry, i mean "electronica" -
bleah!)

track 5 (otono on us release) - bad bad bad.

track 6-7 (nothing left on us) - uhhh, i guess i don't understand what
everyone sees in this. that laughing sample makes me want to retch,
similar to the one from the peel session of "walk now" on diversions. gets
better toward the second track, but i guess i just don't see enough going
on here.

track 8 - ahh, style. love it. it took a while to grow on me, but i think
it was clever of them to use a stylophone in the first place, and i'm
amazed by the depth and range they've achieved with an incredibly outdated
instrument.

overall, this is my least favorite orbital album. which is not to say that
i don't like it. they seem to have lost some consistency, however, which
frightens me a tad. i thought that wendys/mcdonald's comparison was very
appropriate.

other comments - am i the only one who skips "the box" every time i come
to it? the two-track album version, that is. god, i find it slow and
practically unlistenable.

autechre are good. incunabula is good. go listen to track 2 and tell me
there's no melody there. sheesh.

question: personally, i hate the chem. bros., but everyone seems to be
freaking out about how good their new album is. is it really that good?
how's it different from their previous crap?

recommendation: i picked up the jega album recently - for any mu-ziq,
squarepusher, etc. fans out there, i highly encourage you to buy this.
very melodic, very diverse, and the drill&bass isn't quite so harsh as
with mike p. or rdj.

finally: i've heard a lot of talk about oakenfold's "cream" comp - how
similar is this to "tranceport"? i like the latter, although sometimes
it's a bit too lightweight for me. anyone recommend anything slightly
harder?

sorry about the length. i'll go back to lurking now...

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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) (OFF)NPRadio Revws Underworld's "B.Fish"
Date: 16 Jun 1999 14:44:47 -0400


Orbiters!

Don't know if anyone heard National Public Radio yesterday but they had
a litle review by some BRIT named Charles de Ledesma! on Underworld.

Hey Steve! who is this guy anyway?

Anyway, you can go to this page [at the end!] and listen to a streamed
version of the article {about 5 minute length}.

http://programs.npr.org/npr2/PrgDisp.cfm?PrgDate=06/15/1999&PrgID=2

Look for this paragraph and click on the name

Underworld -- Charles de Ledesma reviews the latest CD by the British
band, Underworld. It's called "Beaucoup Fish". Underworld was among the
early pioneers of electronic dance music in Britain, and worked with the
techno pioneer group Kraftwerk. De Ledesma says the new CD has its roots
in rave and techno, but has a more refined, smooth, sophisticated sound
that shows the band's evolution into electronica. (4:00)

(BTW Charles, Underworld is NOT the first techno-band to get mainstream
attention! Get 'em Steve!!!)

Shannon

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) a few thoughts
Date: 16 Jun 1999 20:55:42 +0200


> track 3- terrible, slow start, but really starts to kick in the middle
> track 5 (otono on us release) - bad bad bad.
> track 6-7 (nothing left on us) - uhhh, i guess i don't understand what
> everyone sees in this. that laughing sample makes me want to retch,

Nothing personal, but you man have no musical taste. And skipping
the Box? Your ass should be whooped for that. If I could, I'd close
you up in a room with nothing in it but a CD player and a copy of MoN...
and wouldn't let you out until you truly loved the tracks mentioned. :)

(btw did I mention I like this album *a lot* ?)

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) price of trout
Date: 16 Jun 1999 21:42:49 +0100



>I believe that the main goal in writing music is to please the creators
themselves, whether therapeutic or such.  If the >brothers wanted to write
a rock/loud synth album, god bless them.  If I don't like it, I'll play
their work that I do like (and we >all do have quite a library by this time).

There is the idea that if you do things only to please yourself then it is
selfish, but if you intentions are good then it turns out to be not only
this way. And what are the alternatives....how can a person fully
understand what someone else wants to hear, and how can a person be honest
in doing that ? If everybody tries to be like everybody else, nothing new
ever happens. The fact that you have the industry dictating playlists has
got everything to do with money making and nothing to do with creativity.
'These are the best selling records'...and thats no suprise because thats
all thats being transmitted. Much better to do what you want and see who
likes you for it, rather than trying to get people to like you, or worse -
fooling them out of their money and then trying to buy them back again. (In
other words...'I agree!')


>Is there an Autechre mailing list??

There's alt.music.autechre , which is a newsgroup (only on some servers
though...), and theres the IDM (Intelligent Dance Music) mailing list which
was originally set up for fans of Aphex Twin, but ended up being more about
all things Warp, Fax, and many other things. Subscribe first by e-mailing
[e-mail] . Be sure to go for the digest, as there is a lot
of traffic ! I left that list because it was too much to read, I never got
time. I may have got the e-mail slightly wrong, try messing with it... .com
, .org , etc...and try these commands in the message body...
list
lists
info idm-digest
info idm
info
end

That should do something. If not...web search on 'hyperreal', or try
WarpNet...etc...you'll find it. :-)

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Subject: Re: (orbital) a few thoughts
Date: 16 Jun 1999 19:20:20 -0400




> question: personally, i hate the chem. bros., but everyone seems to be
> freaking out about how good their new album is. is it really that good?
> how's it different from their previous crap?

I like their stuff (so shoot me), but not a whole lot.  I like their
live stuff and dj stuff the most.  I also like their hazy, kinda trippy
stuff like One Too Many Mornings and Life Is Sweet.  I just finished
getting the new album yesterday, and I've got too say it's impressive.
I like it.  But then again I like just about anything.  It's nice and
trancey. Track 2, Influenced, has bass enough to floor you ;)  It's
badass, some serious harmonics and resonance kick in and just about blow
the glass out of your windows.

> finally: i've heard a lot of talk about oakenfold's "cream" comp - how
> similar is this to "tranceport"? i like the latter, although sometimes
> it's a bit too lightweight for me. anyone recommend anything slightly
> harder?

Resident-two years of oakenfold at cream is great.  I must get more of
his stuff.  Mixed well, some killer stuff I haven't heard before and now
must track down.  The crowd reaction makes it fun too.

BTW:  To whoever has the new chem. bros, on track 3, who does the
vocals?  He's the same guy doing the vocals on a track on the prev.
mentioned oakenfold album.  I want the song he does on the oak album, so
knowing his name would help ;)

ps.  review of the MoN is coming once I get to listen to it a couple
more times, and I stop working 11 hour days on my feet, sheesh.  So far
I have to say I never thought it would grow on me like it has after the
first listen.  Guess that's what you get for listening to it in your
sleep, you get trained ;)

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Off topic
Date: 16 Jun 1999 17:38:05 PDT


Hello all,
I don't know if anyone likes FSOL, but does anyone have any info on just
what the hall they are working on these days? It seems like they have
dropped off the face of the earth! I eagerly waiting for a new release from
them. Also, is anyone into Mu-ziq/Mike Paradinas, Meat Beat Manifesto, or
Cylob? Mike P is coming out with a new album in July, which I also can't
wait to hear. I know Jega is from his label, but I haven't really heard any
of Jega's tunes, can anyone give me some feedback and/or opinion on Jega? I
heard he's real cool. As for MBM, I am a longtime fan and I have all the
releases, but I want to know if there is any live MP3 stuff floating around.
I went to the show last winter at Axis in Boston, and they played some
wicked stuff, it was stuff that wasn't on any of the albums. Also, the show
got very hip hopish, but it was great. Their breakdancer Banksy was
wonderful. As for Cylob, I only have Cylobian Sunset, but I want some other
stuff from him. It is available, but it costs way too much. Finally, for the
Spanish members of this list, are their any local spanish techno artists
that I should know about before I go to Madrid? Thanks everybody for
enduring my off topic questions!

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Subject: (orbital) MoN Review
Date: 17 Jun 1999 12:24:30 -0700




> Howdy All,
>  Here's my transcript of a review of Orbital's Middle of Nowhere.  Taken
> from the San Diego Union Tribune June 17, 1999
>
> *** (worthy) out of possible four (excellent)
>   At this point in its career, Orbital (brothers Phil and Paul Hartnoll)
> has ventured so far from traditional techno music, it has more in common
> with classical music than rave culture.
>   On its fifth full-length album, the English group writes for the concert
> hall rather than the dance floor.  With blaring horns and divalike vocals,
> the opening track, "Way Out" features a complex arrangement that's too
> sophisticated for fans of Fatboy Slim's simple big beats or Jamiroquai's
> acid jazz.  The squeaking synthesizer riffs that kick off "Spare Parts
> Express" are readly accessible, but Orbital doesn't settle for the easy
> hook.  When the songs on "Middle" feature vocals, they're either random
> samples ("Nothing Changes") or unitelligilble chants ("Nothing Left") and
> not catchy refrains.
>   Orbital, which had one of techno's biggest hits 10 years ago with
> "Chime" deserves credit for carving out its own niche of alternative
> electronica that stays true to the spirit of pioneers like Tangerine Dream
> and Kraftwerk.- Jeff Niesel
>
>
> That's it, take it for what its worth, he certainly seems to be a fan and
> liked the album.   A lot more than the several people who've blasting the
> album on this mailing list.  As for myself, I love it, and its barely left
> my home or car CD player since I bought it on import over a month ago.
> Cheers.
>
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Subject: (orbital) Doug Radcliffe
Date: 17 Jun 1999 20:40:07 +0100


Doug, i've lost your e-mail address, still interested in orbital live 99?

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The box remix
Date: 17 Jun 1999 14:44:50 PDT


Hello all,
My friend was able to get a remix of The Box, that is quite interesting. It
really sounds nothing like the original, and sounds a lot like either Aphex
or Mu-ziq, more like Mu-ziq though. It really drill and bassy, and I was
just wondering if this is a real Orbital song done by the hartnolls, mu-ziq,
or was one of the remixed songs from the Loopz competition? I doubt it is
the hartnolls. Anyway, chao!

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) a few thoughts
Date: 18 Jun 1999 01:07:54 -0500


> track 5 (otono on us release) - bad bad bad.
>
> track 6-7 (nothing left on us) - uhhh, i guess i don't understand what
> everyone sees in this. that laughing sample makes me want to retch,
> similar to the one from the peel session of "walk now" on diversions. gets
> better toward the second track, but i guess i just don't see enough going
> on here.
>

Totally agree about Otono- the music is fine, but I can't tolerate the
singing.  I think I need to hear An Fhomhair.  And I think the monkey
sample
(that's what the laughing sounds like!) is a little overboard.  I like
the
track though, especially the bass line, with the little squiggly noise
that
comes on strong during the transition between tracks every beat.


> other comments - am i the only one who skips "the box" every time i come
> to it? the two-track album version, that is. god, i find it slow and
> practically unlistenable.
>


AAACK!!  Are you talking about tracks 3 & 4 on Insides??  Please tell me
you're not, because my heart skipped 3 beats when I read over that the
first time!  That song is my favourite song in existence, out of any
genre whatsoever.  It makes me cry every time a hear it (well, almost).
And the video was excellent (I know, you didn't mention that).  I'm
very bigotted, but I think everything about that song is good.

Well, overall I agree with everything you said, and I like how you put
everything.  But the "Box" thing is on a different wavelength.

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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) orbital live 99
Date: 18 Jun 1999 12:50:36 +0100


for those of you who missed it first time round - i'm offering swaps with
people for my various live recordings of orbital this year -

    radio 1 peel session live bootleg (mic on my arm) - (way out, spare
parts express, impact, know where to run, an fhomhair, halcyon live, i don't
know you people, the box, nothing left)

    xfm broadcast - interview + i don't know you people + (way out, spare
parts express, impact)live

    radio 1 broadcast - (know where to run, an fhomhair, the box, nothing
left, (bigpipe) style) live

there's a taster of impact at www.sgjh.demon.co.uk/impact.mp3

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From: steve price <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) HELP - Where can people meet at Glastonbury
Date: 18 Jun 1999 00:18:21 -0700 (PDT)


Loopz here...

There will be meetups at Glastonbury next weekend -
just want to ask people who are regular to the event
if there is an IDEAL place / location to meet up ?

If anyone has any input on this then please email me
at Loopz@rocketmail AND [e-mail]

If anyone wants to be added to the pre-Orbital meetup
then also email me and i will add you to the list.

Those who already have asked about the meetup will be
emailed soon...

Thanx

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Orbital Zine
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Box
Date: 18 Jun 1999 09:00:19 PDT


Now that we're on the subject of the Box, I would like to mention something.
My favorite version of the Box is on the second disc of the In Sides album.
I know that for some people the second disc has Satan(industry Standard, the
Saint, The Sinner, Satan Live, and halycon live on it, I'm talking about the
OTHER second disc. I really really like the way the track goes from the
original "the Box" track into the squeaking chair sample, then the eerie
keyboards kick in with the wonderful drums! Then, the song just builds and
builds to the point where it reaches that sensational climax with the
organ!!!! Awesome! This has been one of my Orbital faves for a long time.
Does anyone know about that "The Box" remix that I mentioned in an earlier
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) The Box
Date: 18 Jun 1999 09:00:20 PDT


Now that we're on the subject of the Box, I would like to mention something.
My favorite version of the Box is on the second disc of the In Sides album.
I know that for some people the second disc has Satan(industry Standard, the
Saint, The Sinner, Satan Live, and halycon live on it, I'm talking about the
OTHER second disc. I really really like the way the track goes from the
original "the Box" track into the squeaking chair sample, then the eerie
keyboards kick in with the wonderful drums! Then, the song just builds and
builds to the point where it reaches that sensational climax with the
organ!!!! Awesome! This has been one of my Orbital faves for a long time.
Does anyone know about that "The Box" remix that I mentioned in an earlier
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From: jon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Foundations compilation for sale (w/ orbital, leftfield, etc.)
Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:01:38 -0700


Hi,

I have the Foundations 2 LP set for sale--out of print, features a ton
of exclusive tracks from major dance artists:

Underworld-Spikee
Orbitl-the tranquilizer busy tranquilizing
808 state-mondays
fluke-stunt bubble
leftfield-space shanty (tribal mix)
massive attack-suck me up dub
plus exclusive tracks from atlas, the moody boyz, bomb the bass,
bandulu, system 7, the aloof, ultramarine, black dog, etc.

Email me for tracklisting and pricing info (asking price: $20)

[e-mail]
http://icl-server.ucsd.edu/~mazbass/odysseymusic.html

Orbital:
Chime US 12" remixes $8
Lush UK 12" $10

Leftfield for sale:
Afro Left UK 12" remixes $8
Yothu Yindi-TImeless land (Unreleased white label remixes by Leftfield) $12
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Are we here live
Date: 18 Jun 1999 10:25:50 PDT


Hey, does anyone know if there is a live version of Are We Here? floating
around on the net? Thanks

Robert Schultz


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) Wimbledon - Way Out
Date: 18 Jun 1999 19:35:50 +0000


Is Way Out being used as the theme tune to Wimbledon 99?

Just heard it playing on an advertisement on BBC 1.

Also, what the hell is this:
Orbital  /  The Best Of Volume EP  /  Volume  /  UK + Free Poster
/ 1995.

Saw it for sale on 12" for =A34.00 UK Pounds.

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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Whoa...a new old remix!
Date: 18 Jun 1999 20:37:19 +0200


I just got ahold of a compilation called "Global Cuts" and guess
what... track 06 is called "Orbital: Lush (1926 Tancendance mix)".
It's weird sounding. Danceable. Addictable.
Anyone else heard it?

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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Whoa...a new old remix!
Date: 18 Jun 1999 19:48:37 +0100


At 20:37 18/06/99 +0200, Daniel Kasaj wrote:
>
>I just got ahold of a compilation called "Global Cuts" and guess
>what... track 06 is called "Orbital: Lush (1926 Tancendance mix)".
>It's weird sounding. Danceable. Addictable.
>Anyone else heard it?

yeah, it's on the impact usa 12". bloody good it is too.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) otono
Date: 18 Jun 1999 19:50:58 +0100


At 01:07 18/06/99 -0500, Marc Sawaya wrote:
>
>Totally agree about Otono- the music is fine, but I can't tolerate the
>singing.  I think I need to hear An Fhomhair.

you DEFINITELY need to hear it! Much better than th ealbum version (or so
most people seem to think). I think an mp3 search would turn it up on the
web, if you're that way inclined.


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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) best of volume
Date: 18 Jun 1999 19:55:45 +0100


At 19:35 18/06/99 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Also, what the hell is this:
>Orbital  /  The Best Of Volume EP  /  Volume  /  UK + Free Poster
>/ 1995.

sounds like it might be a  'Wasted - the best of Volume part one'. It's a
double CD with the dance/techno highlights from the Volume series (the
people that made the Trance Europe Express series). The CD's got LFO,
Sabres, Spooky, Underworld, System 7, Autechre (sorry for mentioning them
again - don't get upset, people!), The Orb, Aphex and loads more. Dunno
what's on the 12" though, probably just four of the the tracks including
'Belfast/Wasted'.


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From: [e-mail] (Michael Mccomb)
Subject: Re: (orbital) Wimbledon - Way Out
Date: 18 Jun 1999 16:57:10 -0300


Hmmm... that's one I actually know the answer to!

The EP being referred to is a 2-track single featuring Orbital's Belfast/Wasted
(like Belfast, but with vocals!) and a track by Therapy?. It was used to
promote the 2 "Best of..." releases by the gone-but-not-forgotten folks at
Volume. "Wasted: Best of Volume Part 1" is the electronic music compilation,
featuring tracks by the likes of Orbital, the Orb, Autechre, Caber

[e-mail] writes:

Is Way Out being used as the theme tune to Wimbledon 99?

Just heard it playing on an advertisement on BBC 1.

Also, what the hell is this:
Orbital  /  The Best Of Volume EP  /  Volume  /  UK + Free Poster
/ 1995.

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Wimbledon - Way Out
Date: 18 Jun 1999 15:12:31 -0500


I have that single!  I love it!  It's one of the only Orbital tunes I've
heard with "REAL" vocals to it.  It's highly cool!


At 04:57 PM 6/18/99 -0300, you wrote:
>The EP being referred to is a 2-track single featuring Orbital's
Belfast/Wasted
>(like Belfast, but with vocals!) and a track by Therapy?. It was used to
>promote the 2 "Best of..." releases by the gone-but-not-forgotten folks at
>Volume. "Wasted: Best of Volume Part 1" is the electronic music compilation,
>featuring tracks by the likes of Orbital, the Orb, Autechre, Caber
Thanks,
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Subject: (orbital) Ben Knowles
Date: 18 Jun 1999 15:18:34 -0500


Ben,

    I seem to have misplaced your e-mail addie.  Please contact me.  Thanks!
Thanks,
    Digger
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From: Karl Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Hello all!
Date: 18 Jun 1999 17:13:10 EDT


Hi, I'm new to this list. My brother Rob([e-mail]) told me
about it, and it seems pretty cool. I've been into Orbital since first
hearing In Sides (I am only 13 years old), which my brother got for me. I
like the new album is just as good as insides, I like them the same because
they are both Orbital! I know most of the kids my age are listening to
stupid stuff like Backstreet boys and N'Sync, so most of the kids my age
have never heard of Orbital and they act as if I'm weird. I guess they just
don't know.

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Subject: (orbital) Jive from the New Girl
Date: 18 Jun 1999 19:11:52 EDT



    Hi! I am a new member to the list. I am also a newer fan of Orbital
of just one year so far. This group swallowed me into its control with just
one taste of Halcyon when I ran out to buy Orbital 2. I have been reading the
mail for a few days to get an idea of what its like and I am very amused with
its interesting and exciting content. It will be a week or so before you
actually start to hear some from me, because I'm going to try to get the
groove of these messages before I pour out my reasoning and opinions for all
to read. Glad to be here! Talk to you guys soon!

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Subject: (orbital) Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: 19 Jun 1999 04:50:18 +0100


At 19:35 18/06/99 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Also, what the hell is this:
>Orbital  /  The Best Of Volume EP  /  Volume  /  UK + Free Poster
>/ 1995.

My copy has got Belfast/Wasted on one side (which has vocals), and Therapy's
Innocent X on the other. The poster if I remember right were pictures of fish
similar to the covers on the volume compilations. Belfast is forever one of my
all time favourite records, and I listen to this (wasted) version too now and
again - such a sad feeling to it though, not what I feel listening to the
original.  When you look at the outer sleeve it's not clear it was released by
volume at all and no mention of therapy etc, misleading, but I still like it
and I think it's worth picking up.


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Hello all!
Date: 19 Jun 1999 01:47:50 -0600


Karl Schultz wrote:

> Hi, I'm new to this list. My brother Rob([e-mail]) told me
> about it, and it seems pretty cool. I've been into Orbital since first
> hearing In Sides (I am only 13 years old), which my brother got for me. I
> like the new album is just as good as insides, I like them the same because
> they are both Orbital! I know most of the kids my age are listening to
> stupid stuff like Backstreet boys and N'Sync, so most of the kids my age
> have never heard of Orbital and they act as if I'm weird. I guess they just
> don't know.
>
> Karl Schultz

yeah, that sounds about the same time i got into electronic music. although it
started out with the Orb and Leftfield for me. and don't worry about it kid,
you'll be happy when "backstreet" and "n'sync" fall as the next wave of teeny
bopper idols roll on in. and you'll be standing proud with your oribtal disc
in hand! as i hear they're planning on their 6th album! and you're right, they
"don't" know about good music. but be glad you're brother got you into the
good stuff. my bro' did too! granted, he's a dj.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Chemicals
Date: 19 Jun 1999 08:43:23 +0100


>question: personally, i hate the chem. bros., but everyone seems to be
>freaking out about how good their new album is. is it really that good?
>how's it different from their previous crap?

I personally never found the Chemicals Brothers not my favourite listening
pleasure (ok..i really dislike them :) ). Ive played the new album a few
times and although i think its their best work...they still dont appeal to
me. The Bernard Sumner collab is very annoying....


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From: Chris Basford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Wimbledon - Way Out
Date: 19 Jun 1999 09:19:18 +0100


In message , [e-mail] writes :
>Is Way Out being used as the theme tune to Wimbledon 99?
>Just heard it playing on an advertisement on BBC 1.

Yes, I was slightly shocked.

>Also, what the hell is this:
>Orbital  /  The Best Of Volume EP  /  Volume  /  UK + Free Poster
>/ 1995.
>
>Saw it for sale on 12" for =A34.00 UK Pounds.
>
>Anyone know?

Probably contains the "Wasted Vocal Mix" of "Belfast" they did for the
"Volume / Wasted" series of compilations? (that is a complete and utter
guess though)




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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Hello all!
Date: 19 Jun 1999 12:15:06 +0100


At 17:13 18/06/99 EDT, Karl Schultz wrote:
>
>I've been into Orbital since first
>hearing In Sides (I am only 13 years old), which my brother got for me. I
>like the new album is just as good as insides, I like them the same because
>they are both Orbital! I know most of the kids my age are listening to
>stupid stuff like Backstreet boys and N'Sync, so most of the kids my age
>have never heard of Orbital and they act as if I'm weird. I guess they just
>don't know.


Sounds like my story (but substitute '22' for '13' and 'Chime' for 'In
Sides').
Give it a few years, and enjoy watching all your friends "discover" techno
and laugh at them because you were right all along ;-)

welcome to the list.


cheers,
Jon

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From: Chris Basford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) a few thoughts
Date: 19 Jun 1999 13:21:08 +0100


In message , Dan Colquhoun <[e-mail]> writes :

>BTW:  To whoever has the new chem. bros, on track 3, who does the
>vocals?  He's the same guy doing the vocals on a track on the prev.
>mentioned oakenfold album.  I want the song he does on the oak album, so
>knowing his name would help ;)

Bernard Sumner of New Order. Bobby Gillespie from Primal Scream does
backing vocals. Track 2 is actually called "Under The Influence" and NOT
"Influenced".

I hope you're going to delete the MP3's and buy the CD on Monday /
Tuesday...



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From: Aronne James Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) first orbital
Date: 19 Jun 1999 08:37:47 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from lists: 19-Jun-99 Re: (orbital) Hello all! by Jon
[e-mail]
> At 17:13 18/06/99 EDT, Karl Schultz wrote:
> >
> >I've been into Orbital since first
> >hearing In Sides (I am only 13 years old), which my brother got for me. I
> >like the new album is just as good as insides, I like them the same
> > because
> >they are both Orbital! I know most of the kids my age are listening to
> >stupid stuff like Backstreet boys and N'Sync, so most of the kids my age
> >have never heard of Orbital and they act as if I'm weird. I guess they
> > just
> >don't know.
>
>
> Sounds like my story (but substitute '22' for '13' and 'Chime' for 'In
> Sides').
> Give it a few years, and enjoy watching all your friends "discover" techno
> and laugh at them because you were right all along ;-)

out of curiousity, what were people first expsoures to orbital?
I first heard them, in a jungle mod that I downloaded, which had a
large sample from Halcyon+on+on... (name withheld to protect the
innocent :) ) This was about 4 years ago already!!  The author
sampled a section of the first part, with the vocals + synths
but no beats. anyways it went pretty well with the jungle beats,
and i loved that track.
I didn't really realize who it was, until i was at a friend's
house, and he just bought the mortal kombat soundtrack. as soon
as halcyon came one, I stopped dead when i heard the sound,
and grabbed his cd to find out who it was :)
took me quite a while to find a copy of orbital 2 after that, (many
months) and ended up buying "orbus terrarum" by mistake during the
process (but a good mistake that was!!!!)

and its all been downhill from there :)


regards,
    aronne


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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) First exposure to Orbital
Date: 19 Jun 1999 07:34:09 PDT


Well, one of  my dad's friends is from Nottingham, or around that place, and
he went back to visit his parents in England. I guess when he was in London,
he picked up a little pamphlet(you know, the one's that say "Friday night:
Deep House Night, hosted by DJ "enternamehere"), except this one only had
the Orbital logo on it. I was wondering what the hell that was, becuase I
had never seen that type of thing before(I live rural MA, where there are
only trees, no clubs). Then, I was over this guys house, and he had an issue
of NME on his coffee table, so I gave it a read! It had an interview with
the Hartnolls, and a little bit about the new album. It was around the time
when Snivilization came out. I liked what I read, so I went out and bought
any Orbital CD I could find(the Brown album was the only thing my local Sam
Goody had). My favorite tracks are Impact and Halycon. Then, I finally
bought Snivilization and at first didn't like it, but later LEARNED to like
it. Favorite tracks, Forever, Are We Here?, Kein Trink Wasser. From there, I
just followed any interview or piece of info I heard about Orbital, and I
eventually got the first album, which after listening to the second two,
sounded very basic. Still infinitely greater than most "rave" and house
music out there. Favorite tracks, Chime (of course), Choice, Satan, Belfast.
Next came In Sides, and you know what happened then? Even my 65 year old
grandmother and 40 year old dad liked that album!! I know, I know. Chao!

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Subject: (orbital) First exposure to Orbital
Date: 19 Jun 1999 07:33:58 PDT


Well, one of  my dad's friends is from Nottingham, or around that place, and
he went back to visit his parents in England. I guess when he was in London,
he picked up a little pamphlet(you know, the one's that say "Friday night:
Deep House Night, hosted by DJ "enternamehere"), except this one only had
the Orbital logo on it. I was wondering what the hell that was, becuase I
had never seen that type of thing before(I live rural MA, where there are
only trees, no clubs). Then, I was over this guys house, and he had an issue
of NME on his coffee table, so I gave it a read! It had an interview with
the Hartnolls, and a little bit about the new album. It was around the time
when Snivilization came out. I liked what I read, so I went out and bought
any Orbital CD I could find(the Brown album was the only thing my local Sam
Goody had). My favorite tracks are Impact and Halycon. Then, I finally
bought Snivilization and at first didn't like it, but later LEARNED to like
it. Favorite tracks, Forever, Are We Here?, Kein Trink Wasser. From there, I
just followed any interview or piece of info I heard about Orbital, and I
eventually got the first album, which after listening to the second two,
sounded very basic. Still infinitely greater than most "rave" and house
music out there. Favorite tracks, Chime (of course), Choice, Satan, Belfast.
Next came In Sides, and you know what happened then? Even my 65 year old
grandmother and 40 year old dad liked that album!! I know, I know. Chao!

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Voice at end of "the Box"
Date: 19 Jun 1999 07:44:39 PDT


Did we ever find out what the voice was at the end of "the Box?" I was just
listening to that realaudio interview on the Loopz site, and I realized that
he never does tell us what it is. Does anyone know or have any theories
about it? I think it sounds very similar to what Kraftwerk did on the
Radioactivity album, but that's just my opinion. Chao!

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Voice at end of "the Box"
Date: 19 Jun 1999 07:44:55 PDT


Did we ever find out what the voice was at the end of "the Box?" I was just
listening to that realaudio interview on the Loopz site, and I realized that
he never does tell us what it is. Does anyone know or have any theories
about it? I think it sounds very similar to what Kraftwerk did on the
Radioactivity album, but that's just my opinion. Chao!

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Voice at end of "the Box"
Date: 19 Jun 1999 07:44:57 PDT


Did we ever find out what the voice was at the end of "the Box?" I was just
listening to that realaudio interview on the Loopz site, and I realized that
he never does tell us what it is. Does anyone know or have any theories
about it? I think it sounds very similar to what Kraftwerk did on the
Radioactivity album, but that's just my opinion. Chao!

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) SORRY!
Date: 19 Jun 1999 07:50:36 PDT


Sorry about sending 3 of the same message! My internet connection is awful,
so I have to press the "SEND" button repeatedly to get it to send it. I know
it clogs everyone's email. :(


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Subject: (orbital) First Exposure to Orbital..
Date: 20 Jun 1999 07:20:17 +0000


Well, if anyone cares, here's my story:
I got that tape from an American Friend, which had Semi-Detached on
it, and about the same Time i heard it on "Spacenight", a german
Programme that shows Earth Views from the Orbit (sic! 8) together
with chillout music (Aphex' 'Aegispolis' was right after
Semi-Detached, and it's almost as good! 8) So i went and looked for
the song, cause the tape was so Low Quality, i couldn't find it
anywhere, no matter where i looked!... So i scanned the net for a mp3
of it (that was in 97, where there were no mp3-searchengines! Have a
guess how hard it was to find a rather rare track like that! 8) So i
finally found it, but it had a glitch!... this totally pissed me off
so i even fixed the glitch by hand! 8)  A Year or so later my
American Friend visited me and brought the 2CD-version of In Sides
as a gift, which got me hooked! Hearing 'Out there somewhere (part
2)' made me think of playing this song on giant speakers hanging from
the sky so all the world could hear it! 8) I thought it could change
the world! 8)) We should be installing giant speakers in Vogon ships
once they come, hehe! From there on i got all the other Orbital CDs
i could find, hesitant at first, but once i got into the sound i was
totally addicted and have been ever since!..

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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) jo whiley
Date: 20 Jun 1999 14:57:43 -0700 (PDT)


Hey all:
There is a new compo out called: INCredible Sound of Jo Whiley.  She
features, well, you guessed it...Autechre (J/K), no Orbital.  and I was
wondering if anyone had the cd or knew just off hand what track was on it.
Thanks much.

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury meetup ?
Date: 21 Jun 1999 00:27:40 +0100




> All,
>
> Its gonna be hard to get this meetup working. The only place we can think
> off for a meetup is the Windmill that evidentally powers the main stage.
> Saturday night at 1830hrs might be a good time (i really havent a clue who
> is on at when...so this may clash with someone you may want to see /
> hear). If anyone has any better ideas then let me know and i can send a
> mail out to all interested.
>
> Someone mentioned that meetup at the "stones" might be a good idea...maybe
> early on like Friday...then we could arrange a proper meetup for Saturday
> night for Underworld and Orbital. If anyone has an ideas...then please
> help me out here :)
>
> Failing that...my mobile will be on from 1800hrs Saturday (if you intend
> to meetup then email me and i can let u have the number (maybe)).
>
> Thanx
>
> Steve LOOPZ Price
> ORbital Zine.
>


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From: Juno Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Some comments
Date: 20 Jun 1999 16:34:22 PDT


1) I thought I was the one who started the whole Autechre flame war, not
Mark.

2) Nub has balls for saying that he skips over "The Box". I will unleash the
economy size can of Whoop-Ass as well. They sell it pretty cheap at Costco,
Smart & Final, and Price Club.

3) Wendy's is the SHIT !!!! I love my Biggie fries and 1/4 Deluxe Double
Stacks; I would trade my nuggets for Orbital seats anyday ! Although I love
having my Super Size fries and my Mc Flurries as well (what's your favorite
topping ? ).

4) Anyone hear the new Art of Noise album yet ? It's THE BOMB !!!!



Noise Werker

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From: Digger <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Days o' the Week
Date: 20 Jun 1999 20:25:35 -0500


"Monday" has always been one of several favorite Orbital tracks for me.  I
just found out there was a "Sunday".  My brother found it and gave it to
me....he says he got it from some guy he knows that deals with hard to find
music.  Anyway...I really like "Sunday" too.  Now I'm very curious if the
brothers will come out with any other tracks named after days of the
week.?.?.?  Anyone else have thoughts on this subject?


Thanks,
    Digger
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Subject: (orbital) Days o' the Week
Date: 20 Jun 1999 20:25:35 -0500


"Monday" has always been one of several favorite Orbital tracks for me.  I
just found out there was a "Sunday".  My brother found it and gave it to
me....he says he got it from some guy he knows that deals with hard to find
music.  Anyway...I really like "Sunday" too.  Now I'm very curious if the
brothers will come out with any other tracks named after days of the
week.?.?.?  Anyone else have thoughts on this subject?


Thanks,
    Digger
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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Some comments
Date: 20 Jun 1999 21:04:31 -0700


I have.  I got it about a month or so ago.  Interesting piece of work-nothing
like I'd expected.

.MatthewFord.

Juno Jackson wrote:

> 4) Anyone hear the new Art of Noise album yet ? It's THE BOMB !!!!
>
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From: life kid <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Days o' the Week
Date: 20 Jun 1999 23:44:53 -0600


Digger wrote:

> "Monday" has always been one of several favorite Orbital tracks for me.  I
> just found out there was a "Sunday".  My brother found it and gave it to
> me....he says he got it from some guy he knows that deals with hard to find
> music.  Anyway...I really like "Sunday" too.  Now I'm very curious if the
> brothers will come out with any other tracks named after days of the
> week.?.?.?  Anyone else have thoughts on this subject?
>
> Thanks,

i've always preferred "sunday" over "monday." it's a bit harsher sounding. you
can find it on the "halcyon" single. i think it's the last track on it. i'm
not sure if they've got other days of the week, but there's a track on the
"green," "yellow," whatever album called "midnight." som i'm not sure if
you're suppose to listen to them in chronological order or what. ok. bye.

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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) autechre - bollocks more like!
Date: 21 Jun 1999 00:16:55 -0700




>
>All this talk of Autechre went to my head and I foolishly went out and
bought 'Inculabuna' as people seemed to think that was the best.
>It's 78 minutes of incredible dull wibbly wobbly formless semi-musical
meanderings. Much like the Aphex Twin stuff I've heard, or Black Dog, but
Black Dog are a lot better, they occasionally throw a tune in.
>It is nothing like Orbital and it is an insult to anyone with taste and
intelligence to mention them on this list.


What the fuck!
I and other autechre fans I'm sure do not appreciate this fucking brutal
comment.  Who the fuck are you to slander all of us and say that we have no
taste or intelligence because we listen to them.  Obviously you don't have
any taste or intelligence if you can not recieve the same feeling that we
get when we hear Ae.  I am listening to Tri Repetae as I write this and am
in awe at the beauty and complexity of there work.  It is obviously out of
your comprehension.  If you don't like autechre, that is cool, however,
don't fucking insult others for their musical taste.
If everything was like orbital, we would all get bored of it sooner or
later.  This is like saying that I wish that everyone looked the same or I
wish everyone dressed the same.  We need diversity in our lives to keep
things exciting.  This is why Orbital have changed their musical styles
slowly over the years.  I personally need different types of music to
sympathize with my feelings and emotions.  There is nothing like Tool or NIN
to release my anger or Orbital and Orb to put my soul at peace.  It can
still be good and not be Orbital.
You hit a touchey spot with me, so sorry for the attack.
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) naughty naughty volume six
Date: 21 Jun 1999 07:03:47 -0400


i found this on an oldschool hardcore page yesterday
i'd never heard of it before..
it's actually half decent.. i was afraid to listen to it though.. knowing
how hh remakes tend to butcher songs

The second victim for the 6th Naughty Naughty release was Orbital's highl=
y
impressive Chime, also available for listen elsewhere around here. I'm no=
t
too sure if you'll notice but the main hook has actually been slightly
reworked in this version, then of course given the full on Amen treatment=
,
resulting in one of best happy hardcore tunes ever made I reckon. Love it.
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~matt02/nn6aa.ram

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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Fwd: (orbital) naughty naughty volume six]
Date: 21 Jun 1999 11:30:51 -0700


Matthew Ford wrote:

> Ahh...the old skool hardcore...some of today's junglists at their early=
 best.
> Too bad hardcore nowadays is boring and lame (i.e. Hixxy, the Thunderdo=
me crew,
> etc).
> The rest of the Naughty Naughty series as well as more really good old =
skool
> hardcore can be heard at:  http://www.vixen.simplenet.com/dark/music.ht=
m
> Just click on Classics Archive then click on Old Skool Hardcore.
>
> .MatthewFord.
>
> Aim=E9e Couture wrote:
>
> > i found this on an oldschool hardcore page yesterday
> > i'd never heard of it before..
> > it's actually half decent.. i was afraid to listen to it though.. kno=
wing
> > how hh remakes tend to butcher songs
> >
> > The second victim for the 6th Naughty Naughty release was Orbital's h=
ighly
> > impressive Chime, also available for listen elsewhere around here. I'=
m not
> > too sure if you'll notice but the main hook has actually been slightl=
y
> > reworked in this version, then of course given the full on Amen treat=
ment,
> > resulting in one of best happy hardcore tunes ever made I reckon. Lov=
e it.
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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Map for Chicago show
Date: 21 Jun 1999 14:37:47 -0400


ATTENTION: Orbiters attending Chicago show at the Congress theater

A friend passed on some good net info with maps, etc. for anyone needing
some advice on finding the Congress theater in Chicago. For locals who
HAVE been there, maybe you could offer us immigrants some advice on what
the theater is like and where/how the best place to link up at  the show
would be.

Info on alcohol access will be greatly appreciated!

INFO: http://chicago.sidewalk.com/detail/12808

MAP: http://chicago.sidewalk.com/map?EID=12808

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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) i can't go to the detroit show anymore and i am sooooo mad
Date: 21 Jun 1999 16:27:29 -0400


man..
parents really suck sometimes..
we were going to go down to detroit on july 3rd so i could be there in ti=
me
for the orbital show..
but no.. now my parents had to change our plans and we're going down on t=
he
8th.. meaning that i miss both orbital on the 6th in detroit and this rav=
e i
REALLY wanted to go to up here on the 10th
grrr

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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Some comments
Date: 21 Jun 1999 17:12:08 -0500




Juno Jackson wrote:

> 1) I thought I was the one who started the whole Autechre flame war, not
> Mark.

No, I started it!  (oh god, not a flame war flame war = ).  I didn't start the
flame war, I started the Autechre discussion (inadvertently), which was the
cause of the flame war.

>  Although I love
> having my Super Size fries and my Mc Flurries as well (what's your favorite
> topping ? ).

Crunch.  And don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


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Subject: Re: (orbital) Voice at end of "the Box"
Date: 21 Jun 1999 17:19:42 -0500




Robert Schultz wrote:

> Did we ever find out what the voice was at the end of "the Box?" I was just
> listening to that realaudio interview on the Loopz site, and I realized that
> he never does tell us what it is. Does anyone know or have any theories
> about it? I think it sounds very similar to what Kraftwerk did on the
> Radioactivity album, but that's just my opinion. Chao!
>
> Robert Schultz

No, it's probably just them talking.  We did find out (in the interview) that
the creaking in track 2 of The Box (long edition) was a sample of the chair
squeaking in their studio.

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From: "[--Daniel A.J.Ramirez Centurion__owo*auf---]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) First Exposure to Orbital..
Date: 21 Jun 1999 20:09:21 -0500


Hi!
My 1st incredibleorgasmic experience with Orbital was "Halcy-on -on" 'in
the Mortal Kombat soundtrack cd (is good!) a loooong time ago

bye

: D

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Spanish Orbital Shows
Date: 21 Jun 1999 17:36:41 PDT


Hello, I think there are some people on this list that are from Spain. I
don't know if Orbital have played any of their Spanish festivals yet(I
forgot when the dates were), but I'm really really interested to see how the
shows will be. I mean, generally are Spanish people really into orbital and
are they usually the primary act at festivals, or are they just another
group among a series of techno groups. I really can't wait to see them at
some of the European festivals when I go to study in madrid. I think I get 1
month off free time between quarters when I'm there, so that gives me a lot
of free time to travel all around. I find that the Spanish people(including
Colombians, Argentines, Mexicans, etc) that I know here in the Boston area
tend to go clubbing a LOT. They generally know how to have a good time. I
also find this to be the case with Orbital fans, so when you put the two
together, i'd expect an amazing time.

By the way, I'm not really into going to clubs for the sake of clubbing, but
a friend of mine is a promoter at Axis in Boston. She can get me into any
event for free, even though I am only 19 and most shows are 21 plus. Is
Dimitri from Paris or DJ Keoki any good, even if I see them for free? I
think brainbug, razor and guido, sasha, and some other similar people are
going to be playing over the summer too. Ok, I appreciate any feedback
people! Chao!

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From: Karl Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 21 Jun 1999 21:38:09 EDT


Hey, I don't know very much about what's going on (or has been going on)
between the Orbital crowd and the Autechre crowd in the "Autechre flame
war". aFTER ALL, i'm new too this list. I agree with the people who like
Autechre. Although, I'm not trying to start an argument. I really don't
think Autechre is better than Orbital. I believe that if you listen to
Orbital too long, or autecre in the same respect, they start to get stale,
which results in music that is thoroughly stale. I don't know about you
people, but i level my music very carefully to avoid this. This opinion of
mine may be obsolete at the moment, which is toward the end of the argument,
but I feel better expressing this. I also feel better because I don't think
I talk very much on this list. Hasta luego!
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Aim=E9e_Couture?=" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Spanish Orbital Shows
Date: 21 Jun 1999 22:50:27 -0400


>By the way, I'm not really into going to clubs for the sake of clubbing,
but
>a friend of mine is a promoter at Axis in Boston. She can get me into an=
y
>event for free, even though I am only 19 and most shows are 21 plus. Is
>Dimitri from Paris or DJ Keoki any good, even if I see them for free?

oh god.. keoki sucks
he's known (and it's not just a rumor)
for 'spinning' while a dat plays..
but that's not the worst part
several times now he's puked/passed out on his decks from doing just a fe=
w
too many drugs
don't bother seeing him

~plur~
aim=E9e
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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Autechre
Date: 22 Jun 1999 04:26:55 +0100


At 21:38 21.6.1999 -0400, Karl Schultz wrote:
>
>Hey, I don't know very much about what's going on (or has been going on)
>between the Orbital crowd and the Autechre crowd in the "Autechre flame
>war". aFTER ALL, i'm new too this list. I agree with the people who like
>Autechre. Although, I'm not trying to start an argument. I really don't
>think Autechre is better than Orbital.
Just a quicky... I actually think this is not a fair comparison. Autechre &
Orbital are so totally unlike each other that you can't really compare them
equally and claim that one of them is "better". It just boils down to
individual taste.

having said that, I do get more kicks out of Autechre stuff than Orbital...

(hmmm flame suit.... ;)

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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Spanish Orbital Shows
Date: 21 Jun 1999 22:43:51 -0700


Not to mention his music sucks. Oh wait-you already said that.
Well, you never can saay that too many times.

.matthewford.

Aim=E9e Couture wrote:

> oh god.. keoki sucks
> he's known (and it's not just a rumor)
> for 'spinning' while a dat plays..
> but that's not the worst part
> several times now he's puked/passed out on his decks from doing just a =
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) I agree
Date: 22 Jun 1999 07:47:13 PDT


Hey, I have to agree with what my brother said. I am the same way. I can't
>listen to orbital all the time, it just gets old. I listen to stuff like
>Mu-ziq and Autechre when that happens. Other times, orbital seems too
>harsh,
>so I'll throw on some Bob Marley or Enya, or something really light. I
>think
>it's important to do this. Otherwise, you pigeonhole yourself. By the way
>karlos, are you sure that you didn;t have someone else write that email, he
>writes better than me, and he's in 7th grade! Damn, I wish I listened to
>techno heavily when I was his age. Instead, i was too busy listening to
>tool
>and stuff. However, stuff like Kraftwerk and early electro, minimalist, and
>experimental stuff has always been played in my house by my dad. Good
>stuff.
>Chao!
>
>Rob Schultz


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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) first orbital
Date: 22 Jun 1999 13:05:45 +0100



>out of curiousity, what were people first expsoures to orbital?

It would be Chime - at a rave somewhere, someplace..I loved so many records
from around that time, Chime being just one - but a great one at that !
What I remember though was the first record I bought which was Omen, I was
with some friends in a squat in Manchester and we had meant to go out
clubbing, we got into the city alright but shortly after getting out the
taxi we all ended up unable to walk or talk properly (not clever),
eventually we got seriously lost, we had to get a taxi back - he asked us
where we wanted to go, there was a long silence and my friend said 'home' -
it was all a bit traumatic, anyway cutting out all the crap...we got there
somehow...and the rest of the night was spent playing the Omen 12" over and
over and over and..at 5am we were all ok and lying in the garden in the wet
grass looking into the sky, listening to it, and it was amazing ! So now 2
deep reminds me of clothes pegs ! And then more good stuff....stupid as it
sounds thats "my first memory" if you like, of Orbital when I first really
appreciated their music.

>>Juno Jackson wrote:
>>1) I thought I was the one who started the whole Autechre flame war, not
>>Mark.


>No, I started it!  (oh god, not a flame war flame war = ).  I didn't start the
>flame war, I started the Autechre discussion (inadvertently), which was the
>cause of the flame war.

You mean, one person started all this on *purpose* ? Damn them to hellll !!!!
At least it wasn't because people actually think different, because that
would be awful !
You really shouldn't take the blame you know....  ..tut tut, naughty
person. :-)

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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) balls
Date: 22 Jun 1999 12:42:20 -0500 (EST)


> 2) Nub has balls for saying that he skips over "The Box". I will unleash the
> economy size can of Whoop-Ass as well. They sell it pretty cheap at Costco,
> Smart & Final, and Price Club.

i didn't expect people to react so strongly to that comment. if it helps,
it's only the 2-track album version i don't like - the bigass long single
version is quite awesome, imho (esp. the 2nd and 3rd "suites"). gosh, i
wonder how people would react if i told how i really can't stand "chime"?
(i know i've mentioned that before on the list...)

my first exposure to orbital (and i've told this story before, and it's
not particularly exciting) was visiting colleges during my senior year of
h.s. (so '95 i guess). there i was, sick as hell with mono, at a little
podunk school called lawrence in wisconsin. my host, who grew pot in his
dorm room, had a bit of techno in his collection - i asked him to put
something on cuz i hadn't yet had a lot of exposure to the genre. to that
point, the only electronic music i owned was the prodigy's "experience"
(which, btw, is one of the greatest techno classics you could ever hope to
hear - if you think prodigy is all about firestarter and smack my bitch
up, check out this hardass bangin disc). so he puts on the brown album. i
was like "does it have a beat?" and he was like "it's got a bit of a
groove to it." groove, indeed. i sat back in awe as lush->impact->remind
came pouring forth through this dude's ridiculously high-wattage stereo,
and thought "now THIS is the music i've been looking for all these years."
since then i've bought pretty much all their stuff, with the notable
exception of all that impossible-to-find pre-green stuff like "omen," etc.

anyway...

to the person who asked about "jega" - i posted a small review a while
back. if you like rdj and mike p, i'm sure you'll like this. a bit
mellower in some ways and just as hard in others - a very diverse, melodic
album.

question: does the middle section of spare parts express (without the
synth loop) remind anyone of "the sinner"? do you know what i'm talking
about?

take it easy,
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From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Hello!
Date: 22 Jun 1999 11:07:50 -0700



-- Intro --
Hi.. My name is Ian.  This is my first posting to this list.  I've been
reading the archives for quite some time now.  Anyways.. I just wanted to
voice my experiences with Orbital.

-- My first time --
My first album was 'In Sides'.  I was 17 or so.  'The Girl with the Sun in
Her Head' blew my mind.  Since then, I've bought every major US release I
can find and enjoy them thoroughly.  I've started to collect other
releases... live performances, EPs, etc...  It's kind of turned into my
hobby.  People always ask if I get sick of Orbital... My reply is "No.. Did
you know I have 5 versions of Chime?".

-- The Middle of Nowhere --
I'd like to add some input about MoN.  When I bought 'Sniv'.. I hated it.  I
pulled the CD out a month ago and popped it in.  I was dumbfounded.  I had
owned the CD for a couple of years and only listened to it 2 or 3 times.
'Forever' and 'Kein Trink Wasser' are simply amazing.  To get to the point..
I'm having a similar transition with MoN.  All in all, I find the album to
be a major disappointment... though I'm sure it will grow on me.

-- Questions --
+ Why wasn't 'Times Fly' ever on a major release?  It's one of my favorite
tracks.
+ What's the origin of the 'Live in Birmingham' bootleg?  Can someone give
me an exact date?
+ Who would be interested in a 'B sides' release from Orbital?  How about a
boxed set?  *HINT HINT STEVE!!!*
+ Does anyone have 'Macro Head'?  I can't find this track anywhere.

That's all... sorry for the lengthy post!!


- Ian




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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Hello!
Date: 22 Jun 1999 19:12:36 +0100


At 11:07 22/06/99 -0700, Ian Mahuron wrote:
>
>+ Why wasn't 'Times Fly' ever on a major release?  It's one of my favorite
>tracks.

there was a Times Fly single here in the UK. Lucky us, eh?


>+ What's the origin of the 'Live in Birmingham' bootleg?  Can someone give
>me an exact date?
>+ Who would be interested in a 'B sides' release from Orbital?

who wouldn't be? ;-)



cheers,
Jon

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Hello!
Date: 22 Jun 1999 21:32:21 +0000


>>+ Why wasn't 'Times Fly' ever on a major release?  It's one of my
>>+ favorite
>>tracks.

>there was a Times Fly single here in the UK. Lucky us, eh?

I got the In Sides 2CD version from the US, and that had the 'Times
Fly' and 'The Box' EPs both completely on the Bonus CD!.. I know
there's one release with Satan and Halcyon Live, too, but that's not
the one i mean!...

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From: Kel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) First times
Date: 19 Jun 1999 21:12:05 -0400


Once upon a letter, Karl Schultz wrote:

> I've been into Orbital since first hearing In Sides (I am only 13
> years old), which my brother got for me. I like the new album is just
> as good as insides, I like them the same because they are both
> Orbital!

Time to add my two cents about my first exposure to Orbital then :) This
could be an interesting thread if more people pick it up...

It was my mad religion teacher who did it actually. Freshman year of
high school, i had Mr. Nicoletti, a short, stubby, sweaty, uncombed,
fervently religious alienist kind of guy, for Christian Identity. The
high point of that mad class was when we watched (his heavily edited
version of) Hackers. I forget what his point was, the hackers were all
Children Of God, but only one of them was a Servant Of The Lord, and
then he tied it in with the Plato's Cave metaphor, or something like
that. For whatever reason he made us watch it, the music got my
attention. At that point I was drifting mostly, buying mostly New Age
stuff and some borderline techno, and I had my ears open to pretty much
anything. Anyway, I figured What The Hell, and I looked up the
soundtrack online. For no real reason the coolest name on the page stuck
in my head, and when I looked up Orbital on some search engine I found
Loopz' page. I heard the RealAudio of Halcyon+On+On, and since I
couldn't get it out of my head I ordered the disc. The rest is history
:) I got the Brown Album on a weekday night, and could do absolutely no
homework that night, I was captivated. I failed a Chemistry test the
next day, thanks to P+P :) Cheers to that!

> ...most of the kids my age have never heard of Orbital and they act as
> if I'm weird.

Ah, well you're in very weird company then :) Nice to have you here...
and nice to have a thread that's about Orbital too...
                            KEL
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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Naughty Naughty 6
Date: 22 Jun 1999 21:37:52 +0100


The lovely Aimee wrote  :)
>The second victim for the 6th Naughty Naughty release was Orbital's highl=
>y
>impressive Chime, also available for listen elsewhere around here. I'm no=
>t
>too sure if you'll notice but the main hook has actually been slightly
>reworked in this version, then of course given the full on Amen treatment=
>,
>resulting in one of best happy hardcore tunes ever made I reckon. Love it.

I was fortunate to find this obscure 12 inch a few years back - it has a
orange record inlay and had a K-Klass happy hardcore version of one of their
tracks on the flipside. Quite funny to listen to :)

Thanx

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
www.loopz.co.uk
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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Plaid "Rest Proof Clockwerk"
Date: 22 Jun 1999 21:45:18 +0100


Having experienced Plaid live on the Orbital tour many many many many times
(yes...that many) and also after enjoying "Not 4 Threes" - i decided to
indulge in the new CD.

This release will take more play to get used to unlike Not 4 Threes...but it
is well recommended. My favourites so far (and yes there is a lot) ....
"Dead Sea", "Gellab", "Dang Spot" (What an awesome start to a track - always
remember it as the first track on the Orbital tour) , "Pino Pimo", "Last
Remembered Thing" (the last track (funny enough) that they did on the live
set - excellent!) and the hidden track with Alison Goldfrapp (i think) on
vocals.

Buy it...dont mp3 it!

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
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From: [e-mail] (Gregory Drew)
Subject: (orbital) I don't know you people
Date: 22 Jun 1999 18:14:57 -0400



        I'll appologize first off if this question has been already posed
but I must ask it as I'm curious.

        Does anyone know if either or both of the brothers are fans of
Skinny Puppy?  The sample from I don't know you people (though originally
from the movie Legend of Hell House) is also used in the song Basement by
SP.  It freaked me out to hear Orbital using it and I was wondering if they
at least were aware of the sample being used elsewhere.

        If anybody knows I'd be interested in hearing back.  Thanks.


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Subject: (orbital) Northwest Blacklisted?
Date: 22 Jun 1999 16:39:10 -0700



I'm pretty disappointed that Orbital is not coming to Seattle.  Does anyone
know why?


Ian



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From: [e-mail] (Michael Mccomb)
Subject: Re: (orbital) Northwest Blacklisted?
Date: 22 Jun 1999 21:02:29 -0300


Yeah, I know what you mean. I was pretty sure they wouldn't come here to
Vancouver, but to completely shun the Pacific Northwest is a bit of a pisser,
innit? You'd think between Vancouver, Seattle and Portland they could do at
least one show?!?

Bit of a slap in the face when I see Middle of Nowhere posters all over town.
:P

Michael McComb


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>
>
>I'm pretty disappointed that Orbital is not coming to Seattle.  Does anyone
>know why?
>
>
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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Hello!
Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:07:40 +0900


> I got the In Sides 2CD version from the US, and that had the 'Times
> Fly' and 'The Box' EPs both completely on the Bonus CD!.. I know
> there's one release with Satan and Halcyon Live, too, but that's not
> the one i mean!...

Actually, there is a 3rd one as well with Saint, Satan, Sinner, Chime, and
Impact (?) with the 3 of them (or maybe all) being live.

It seems that alot of people were first introduced to Halcyon. Me too. And
from Mortal Kombat. I heard that song at the end of the movie and since I
couldn't figure out who it was to buy the CD, I bought the Video. Then I
bought the Soundtrack. I loved the song but never bought Orbital till I saw
Hackers and heard it again.  So I finally bought Insides and it had the
Box/Live Halcyon +On +On and that was that. Actually, I didn't really like
Insides much and I didn't buy anythign else until I heard Orbital again in the
Saint. Then I bought Sniv and became a huge fan. I guess not that many people
got turned ON to Orbital by Sniv, but i loved it. Especially Kein Trink.
Anyway, just make sure P+P keep putting songs out in movies and they get their
fans. Anyway, Later.
AJ


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From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Visit
Date: 22 Jun 1999 22:44:02 -0500


I was just listening to Visit on mp3, and I was realizing how
disappointed I am that it never became a real song.  It's quite good.
Sad and melodic and all that stuff, kinda like the Box.  Well, that
sucks.  Maybe the Hartnolls will get inspired and release it sometime.

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From: saadia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Northwest Blacklisted?
Date: 23 Jun 1999 00:57:43 -0400 (EDT)


>
>
> I'm pretty disappointed that Orbital is not coming to Seattle.  Does anyone
> know why?
>
>
> Ian
>
>
or Orlando, Fl.? *sigh*



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (orbital) sonar 99
Date: 23 Jun 1999 07:30:50 -1200



Hi all, this is Monica again, back from Sonar (Barcelona). Sorry for the
delay but i=B4ve had problems with the server...

Orbital was simply great (1:50 min including Way Out, Spare Part Express,
The Box, Know Where to Run, I don=B4t know you people, Halcyon + Bon Jovi +
Belinda Carlisle, Nothing Left, Chime, Dr Who, Satan, Style...)

Visuals (with these rotating screens) were beautiful (doves, chrono
sequences, clocks...) and just made it even better. Sound could have been
better...though i have to admit i was not in the best place to appreciate:
too close, but i like seing brothers faces ;) and people was warm and very
receptive so i suppose everybody had a good time.

In Madrid, the concert was sligthly different (a little bit shorter). I=B4ve
been said they played Belfast instead of Dr Who theme...but i will soon ask
for further details.

Besides Orbital, Sonar was quite good though the tendency to bring more and
more Djs each year (instead of live concerts) is starting to annoy me, but
this is of course my opinion, not very objective in this case, cause i
deeply dislike this type of progressive, trance techno which people usually
dance to death.

The best concerts this year (IMHO) were the one from Rioji Ikeda ("the most
beautiful ugly sound in the world", as one of the voices he included said)
though the low frequencies made me literally  sick; Bola (from Skam, the
Autechre -sorry- label)  just beauty...and a really nice man this Darrel;
=46X Randomize (another great guy with just a powerbook PC to make this
brilliant, experimental and again brilliant music) and Tarwater (one of
them from To Rococo Rot, if this helps, and, by the way, one of the best
releases of this year imho) with elegant and clean sounds.

And that=B4s...not all but enough for a first review. If anyone is intereste=
d
in something in particular: just ask ;)






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From: "[--Daniel A.J.Ramirez Centurion__owo*auf---]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) sonar 99
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:29:12 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:

> Hi all, this is Monica again, back from Sonar (Barcelona). Sorry for
> the
> delay but i┤ve had problems with the server...
>
> Orbital was simply great (1:50 min including Way Out, Spare Part
> Express,
> The Box, Know Where to Run, I don┤t know you people, H...

Hola Monica, ut's up.
Quisiera saber toda la informaci≤n posible que nos pudieras entregar
acerca del evento. A mi personalmente me interesa mucho ya que soy un
seguidor muy constante de Orbital. En english or spanish, es igual.
Quisiera saber si serφa posible encontrar imagenes del evento y/o ojala
un video !. Me encantarφa poder verlo.
Saludos cari±osos desde Chile

Daniel
owo*auf
(cheka www.sueter.net nuestro proyecto de comunicaci≤n electr≤nica)


> Daniel A.J.Ramφrez Centuri≤n_[owo*auf]

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Clinging to the wreckage of the lost ship fantasy
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_____Net boy, Net girl
_____Send your signal'round the world
_____Let your fingers walk and talk
_____And set you free
_____Net boy, Net girl
_____Send me your impulse'round the world
_____Put your message in a modem
_____And trow it in the *Sueter* cyber sea..."

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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Hello!
Date: 23 Jun 1999 09:57:11 +0100


yeah, i did! first orbital album, and still my favourite, it has some extra
depth and beauty that other albums cannot reach :)

reece

>Then I bought Sniv and became a huge fan. I guess not that many people
>got turned ON to Orbital by Sniv, but i loved it.





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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) orbital in Long Beach
Date: 23 Jun 1999 02:24:24 -0700


Hey,

I was planning on flying to LA to catch the Long Beach show.  Can anyone
tell me how difficult it is to get from LA to Long Beach.  I know that they
are about 60km (we, like the rest of the world, don't use miles, sorry)
apart, so I am guessing about a 1 1/2 hours drive.  Are there like buses or
anything?  I would go to San Fran, but LA has a cheaper flight and I'm on a
very tight budget.
any help would be extremely appreciated.

peace
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From: Michael David Lyons <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) First orbital disc
Date: 23 Jun 1999 13:37:01 +0200 (MET DST)


I found a copy of "mutations" while rummaging through the
bargain bin at a used record shop in Nuremberg. I went out
and got the green album after that, and the brown album was
released a few months later.

Mike


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From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Visit - First - MoN - Autechre
Date: 23 Jun 1999 14:51:02 GMT


>I was just listening to Visit on mp3, and I was realizing how
>disappointed I am that it never became a real song.  It's quite good.
>Sad and melodic and all that stuff, kinda like the Box.  Well, that
>sucks.  Maybe the Hartnolls will get inspired and release it sometime.

True, isn't it? That song is so good, so melodic as you say and i can't
agree more. It should've been released. Or, I'd like to find the full
version on MP3 until the P&Ps label decide to make some money of it by
releasing it.

Somebody asked me about a song by Reload called Biosphere; I found it on a
compilation called Electronica (orange sleeve), with tracks from Aphex Twin
(Delphium), Carl Craig, Plaid, etc. and among these were Reload's Biosphere;
although a Global Communications mix, but aren't they the same people?

I first got into Orbital about 4 years ago; think it was, yeah, must have
been around 1995 sometime. Worst part is, I can't remember completely how, I
know I went to the Orbital concert at the Roskilde festival in '95, and I
never realised it was them. The first song that I really remember is Sad But
True off Sniv, heard it at one of my mate's place and that was more or less
it. Really liked the sound of that, Sniv is still to this date my favourite
album; and nothing moves me more than Kein Trink Wasser and Forever. For
some reason, I keep associating these two tracks with a kind of futuristic
vision; Blade Runner-kinda civilisation; dark city with minimalistic
appearance, advanced technology, a bit like the cyberpunk novels by Gibson.

Also, I finally got the Middle of Nowhere album today; I've not got much to
say about it yet, heard most of the tracks up to "Nothing Left" and I intend
to listen to these when i'm done here.
Comments; well, "Way Out" and "Otono", probably the two, best ones so far,
but as for the album as a whole so far; I think that it's much better heard
live. Way Out sounds so compromised on the album, and I had my first contact
with this new Orbital material at the Glasgow concert in March, and it all
seems bleak in comparison with that concert. Luckily I'm catching them again
this summer on 2nd July in Roskilde again, kinda deja vu of 1995!
"Spare Parts Express", love half of it, don't like the other half that much.
The part I like is the sections where the accordion-ish sound tunes in; and
the part I don't like is where somebody (probably drunk) gets hold of the
tune/note knob and starts twiddling like mad (that's what i think it sounds
like at least). "Know where to run"
and "I don't know you people", they again sound minimal compared to the
concert version, and the former is a bit repetitive in my opinion. I know
we're speaking of the master of loops here, but it's a tad bit too much for
my taste.
Ooh, better conclude this now, in any case, even though i may sound
disappointed above, i'm not, and i think the album is good, and that it's
going to continue to grow on me and someday in the not so very distant
future i'll come back and regret calling it repetitive and minimal. Love the
phat bass sound in Way Out, made my speakers shudder.

Somebody mentioned Autechre and compared them to Orbital; I don't think it's
possible to do really, their music styles differ too much in my opinion; but
it's true that listening to too much of each or any kind of music makes it
seem dull and then you need a break. Consider me back on my Orbital shift
and on an Autechre break.

Peace all, enjoy your summer!

Trym

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From: "Matthew J. Stollak" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Chicago show
Date: 23 Jun 1999 11:40:20 +0000


I'm not a Chicago native, but I am headed to the Chicago show.  What's the
best way to get there from Evanston.  Should I take the El?  If so, what
would be the appropriate route?  If by car, will there be ample parking?

Thanks,

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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) StEvE! yOu MaDe WiReD
Date: 23 Jun 1999 15:47:14 -0400


In case you surfers don't know about WIRED magazine's online Web
tutorials, they are called the Webmonkey and you can have them Emailed
to you too !FOR FREE!. Go to www.hotwired.com and follow the stuff to
Webmonkey.

Well I'm scanning today's Webmonkey article called "Hot Multimedia Tips"
by Francis Preve [NOT Perv-e]. on page 7 he gives his own $0.02 about
choosing audio types and warns site makers [in item #6] to AVOID the
temptation to embed MIDI files, as they "have a tendency to sound really
corny" "...unless {AND HERE IT IS!} you're Orbital".

And guess where the Orbital link points? To our very own goo-roo, Mr.
Price! [and Steve you'll be exstatic to learn that it even points to the
Original "BaDmUtHa" UK site and not the hyperreal mirror].

If ya wanna check it out yursef, point that net scope at:

http://www.hotwired.com/webmonkey/99/26/index1a_page7.html?tw=multimedia

WARNING: WiReD has some prtty slick monkeys and you may get kicked back
out the frontdoor until you register a user name, etc. The best part is
that they DON't give names out to others and if you subscribe to their
Webmonkey mails, then you never have to login; you're already an
insider. [sorry for that bit of advertising but WiReD is like Orbital in
that they make this life a bit more interesting!]

Seizures!
ShanON +ON +ON
--
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (orbital) Spanish Orbital Shows
Date: 23 Jun 1999 19:31:05 EDT


    Hey! I have to say that Keoki is not as good as Orbital. Of course,
WHO is better than Orbital. But... I have the Keoki "Altered Ego-Trip" album,
and I listened to it for a while thinking I would eventually get used to it
and enjoy it, and it really sucked to say the least. Not to step on any toes
for all of you Keoki fans! His music is just real repetitious and doesn't
really keep your attention with a variety of cool beats throughout the songs.
Although, if I got a chance to see the show for free, I would probably go
just to check them out anyway (they may have some ok stuff that I just
haven't heard in only one album).
    I hope that advice helped a little Robert. And thank you very much
for the warm welcome into this awesome mailing list. I will be working on
building up my collection of Orbital cds asap!!! I have heard of Future Sound
of London and I really like their stuff. Tell me a little about Aphex Twin,
I've seen some stuff on them lately, but I haven't had a chance to hear any
of their music.

Chill,
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From: steve price <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury - for those who are recording on BBC and Radio
Date: 23 Jun 1999 16:59:17 -0700 (PDT)


All,

For those who wont make the Glastonbury Festival and
will be recording the music etc....

Orbital are on the Jazz World Stage at 22:45hrs
Saturday night...thats 30 mins after Underworld
finish on the Main Stage. Get them record keys
ready...and let me know who has a sexy recording!

Cheers

Steve LOOPZ Price
www.loopz.co.uk
www.megadog.net
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From: steve price <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) GLASTO MEETUP - FINAL - only one change
Date: 23 Jun 1999 16:40:26 -0700 (PDT)


All,

hopefully not everyone has left for the fields yet :)

Orbital are signing stuff at the SELECT MAGAZINE area
on SATURDAY at 1400-1500 hrs....so one meetup
place/time has slightly changed to reflect this (see
MEETUP PLACE NUMBER 2). Thats it....see you there
(hopefully!)

MEETUP PLACE NUMBER 1 - Friday 1900hrs - OUTSIDE
Nutters Cafe (large tent which is towards the avalon
stage & green field areas, at the cross road between
the Avenue (which leeds towards the stones) and the
path that leads towards the avalon stage area. It
serves good food and tea ect 24Hrs aday and is a
Steiner School charity. It also plays some very good
music to sit down and chill out to .).

MEETUP PLACE NUMBER 2 - Saturday 1400hrs - SELECT
Magazine Signing session - Left of the Pyramid Stage

MEETUP PLACE NUMBER 3 - Saturday - Before Underworld
gig at the Main Stage. By the mixing desk (dont know
how feasible this is - feedback please)

MEETUP PLACE NUMBER 4 - Saturday - OUTSIDE the Cidar
tent - Before and maybe during the beginning of
Saturday nights Orbital gig (Jazz World Stage)

MEETUP PLACE NUMBER 5 - Saturday - OUTSIDE the Cidar
tent - After the Orbital gig (Jazz World Stage)

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From: Dan Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Chickenweasel!
Date: 23 Jun 1999 23:49:25 -0400



Any Tool fans here know what I'm talking about?   Is there an Orbital
analogue?

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From: Aronne James Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: afx and other music rambles
Date: 24 Jun 1999 00:19:46 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from lists: 23-Jun-99 Re: (orbital) Spanish Orbit.. by
[e-mail]
> of London and I really like their stuff. Tell me a little about Aphex Twin,
aphex twin (which is by the way one person , Richard D. James)
makes really odd music. Some of it is loosely like ambient techno,
like SAW 85-92 and maybe some of his early stuff (although I haven't
heard much of it). In general his stuff tends to be a harder variety
of techno than orbital. His newer stuff is often very harsh
stuff - can't stand it myself.

I probably wouldn't recommend him as a progression from orbital & FSOL,
maybe try some stuff like Orb, Amorphous Androgynous (an FSOL alias),
Biosphere, Global Communication, Plaid, Black Dog, Bola.....

Speaking of which I think a lot of people on this list might like the
Bola album, "Soup" on Skam... very very nice dark ambient techno.
smooth stuff, been playing it a bunch lately.

on a tangent, I just got a copy of the DB mix CD on sm:)e,
"Shades of Technology" - i absolutely looooooooooooove the first
track, "Demon Seed" by exocet... any d'n'b heads have anything
similar to this? Its nice to hear a track with some simple groovin
synth lines rather than growly bassline v.3475634758 that no one
but ed & optical seem to work right.

as you can tell I got a big shipment of cd's today so I'm in
a good music mood :)



regards,
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From: life kid <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: afx and other music rambles
Date: 23 Jun 1999 23:50:56 -0600


Aronne James Merrelli wrote:

> Excerpts from lists: 23-Jun-99 Re: (orbital) Spanish Orbit.. by
> [e-mail]
> > of London and I really like their stuff. Tell me a little about Aphex Twin,
> aphex twin (which is by the way one person , Richard D. James)
> makes really odd music. Some of it is loosely like ambient techno,
> like SAW 85-92 and maybe some of his early stuff (although I haven't
> heard much of it).

i would also suggest "selected ambient works II" as, though not orbital like,
still a great album.

> In general his stuff tends to be a harder variety
> of techno than orbital. His newer stuff is often very harsh
> stuff - can't stand it myself.

true. as i stopped buying his albums after SAW II. although, i must admit some
of his songs are cool. like, "on," "donkey rhubarb," "girlboy song," "flim" etc.

> I probably wouldn't recommend him as a progression from orbital & FSOL,
> maybe try some stuff like Orb, Amorphous Androgynous (an FSOL alias),
> Biosphere, Global Communication, Plaid, Black Dog, Bola.....

just some album suggestions here.
global communication : "76:14" (more chill out, but has a few beaty songs in
there)
amorphous androgynous : "tales of ephidrenia" (their only one under that name)
plaid : "not for threes" (their only full length to date, since leaving the
black dog)
black dog : "spanners" (great album)
orb : either "adventures beyond the ultraworld," "u.f.orb," or "orblivion" (this
is a toughie because they're all good in they're own way)

might i also suggest...

lfo : "advance" (if you can find it, grab it)
underworld : "second toughest in the infants," or "beaucoup fish"
fluke : "risotto"
art of noise : "the seduction of claude debussy" (got an advanced copy, and i
must say it's a pretty nice album)
pet shop boys : "disco 2" (highly underrated. a great mix of remixes, mixed
together by chris lowe himself)
autechre : "incunabula" (and "amber" if you're in the mellow mood)

> Speaking of which I think a lot of people on this list might like the
> Bola album, "Soup" on Skam... very very nice dark ambient techno.
> smooth stuff, been playing it a bunch lately.

stuff on skam has surprised me. most of it is pretty nice. heard the "skampler"
and boards of canada i've grown a liking to, and gescom (read = autechre) rock.
ok. that's it. <stepping off pedastal>

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From: Anil Prasad <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) In-depth Orbital Interview now online
Date: 23 Jun 1999 22:45:12 -0700


Some Orbital interview propaganda here folks. Hope
it isn't too alarming. :-) If any Orbital-related
websites are interested in linking, please do and
Innerviews will gladly reciprocate.

Cheers

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June 23, 1999

ANNOUNCING AN EXCLUSIVE, IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW WITH ORBITAL

San Francisco, CA - June 23, 1999 - Innerviews, an
award-winning, web-based music magazine located at
http://www.innerviews.org, is pleased to announce an
exclusive, in-depth interview with Orbital, the
acclaimed British "intelligent techno" act.

Since their impossibly-addictive 1990 debut single
"Chime" first scaled the British charts, Orbital has
become a mainstay of the international techno and
electronic music scenes. They regularly headline famed
music festivals including Glastonbury, Roskilde and
Lollapalooza. They've contributed soundtrack music to
movies such as The Saint, Spawn and Event Horizon. And
they've been responsible for award-winning, groundbreaking
videos like "The Box" from their 1996 In Sides release.
Acts as diverse as Madonna, Meat Beat Manifesto, Queen
Latifah and Yellow Magic Orchestra have also commissioned
remixes from them.

Join Innerviews in this fascinating conversation that
explores:

- The making of their latest CD Middle of Nowhere

- Their composition process

- Balancing technology and emotion

- Why they're using more live instrumentation than ever

- Their collaborations with Kirk Hammett and Michael Kamen

- Their influences above and beyond acid house and techno

- The politics lurking underneath their soundscapes

- And much more....


And don't forget about other recent Innerviews with
Howie B, Bill Laswell, David Sylvian, Massive Attack
and others!


ABOUT INNERVIEWS
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Subject: (orbital) deleted
Date: 24 Jun 1999 07:45:47 +0100



>Subject: (orbital) balls
<snip>
>since then i've bought pretty much all their stuff, with the notable
>exception of all that impossible-to-find pre-green stuff like "omen," etc.

Not all impossible, even now. :-) It's good to experiment with the way you
look - I'm sure Omen will be sitting there in a small shop someplace. I'm
looking for a HIA CD at the moment and 3 places have told me it doesn't
exist (and it does...)

>From: Trym Asserson <[e-mail]>

>and among these were Reload's Biosphere;
>although a Global Communications mix, but aren't they the same people?

Yes, and also Jedi Knights ? They've done some amazing stuff, I really like
the 76:14 CD a lot, Reload was great too.

>Somebody mentioned Autechre and compared them to Orbital; I don't think it's
>possible to do really, their music styles differ too much in my opinion;

...a bit like comparing two different colours and complaining because one
doesn't look like the other, or that a cat just isn't dog-like
enough.....imho !

>From: Marc Sawaya <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (orbital) Visit

>I was just listening to Visit on mp3, and I was realizing how disappointed
I am that it never became a real song.

I had a video of this until the tape chewed up the day after (moan grumble
winge), I remember two records - I really liked them both, as for it not
becoming a real song....you can never be too sure about these things !

...I'm now off to spend my last pennies on the Plaid CD. :-) Looking
forward to the new Bjork as well, not sure when that's coming out...after
the summer I guess.

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Date: 24 Jun 1999 06:06:13 -0400



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writes:
>
>i would also suggest "selected ambient works II" as, though not
>orbital like, still a great album.

I have a brand new sealed copy of SAW II for $9 plus shipping

>might i also suggest...
>pet shop boys : "disco 2" (highly underrated. a great mix of remixes,
>mixed together by chris lowe himself)

Got this one too, with the limited edition bonus CD - $14 plus shipping.

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From: "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: afx and other music rambles
Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:24:00 +0100


>>pet shop boys : "disco 2" (highly underrated. a great mix of remixes,
>>mixed together by chris lowe himself)
errr, not quite right, to quote the inlay:
"disco 2 megamix and compilation by Danny Rampling"
but yes, it kicks a mighty ass :) especially the 2nd half of it, absolutely
fabulous (pun intended ;)

>Got this one too, with the limited edition bonus CD - $14 plus shipping.
bonus cd??? "$$#%)"#$%) what's on that one???

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Replies to Ian
Date: 24 Jun 1999 12:36:46 +0100


+ Why wasn't 'Times Fly' ever on a major release?  It's one of my fav\orite
+ tracks.

It was on a major release. Its on the Times Fly EP

+ What's the origin of the 'Live in Birmingham' bootleg?  Can someone give
+me an exact date?

if you are refering to the Birmingham UK bootleg.......haha - i dont know
who started this bootleg going...ahem. Exact date/place ....Saturday 5th
June 1993 at the Dance Factory , back of the Institute club in Digbeth,
Birmingham, England....i remember sooooooo well :)))))

+ Who would be interested in a 'B sides' release from Orbital?  How about a
+boxed set?  *HINT HINT STEVE!!!*

haha....do i work for the record company now :) Its a good idea isnt
it...dunno if they are at the boxed set stage of their career as yet though

+ Does anyone have 'Macro Head'?  I can't find this track anywhere.

yes...its on the vinyl version of the green album

Cheers

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From: Chris Kloehr <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Spanish Orbital Shows
Date: 24 Jun 1999 07:45:37 -0500


>Hey! I have to say that Keoki is not as good as Orbital.

Well from what I understand he is a pedophile that likes little boys...so he
loses all respect from me at that point....


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Date: 24 Jun 1999 09:08:42 -0400 (EDT)


Keoki has indeed been known to suck many things, but he has also been known to have awicked way with a tune.  Sure, like any over indulgent head he gets absolutely bolloxed during his six hour sets (eight actually, last time I saw him).  Admittedly his own tunes (like on We Are One) can wander into the dull, vague squelchy noise, but when he bothers to spin he's THE dude (Billy Nasty excepted, maybe) - just check out those first two mix albums (that, uhh, I can't remember the name of)

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From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) Chickenweasel!
Date: 24 Jun 1999 08:07:15 -0700



>Any Tool fans here know what I'm talking about?   Is there an Orbital
>analogue?

I sure do!  Heh.


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Subject: (orbital) Keoki sucks, so I recommend...
Date: 24 Jun 1999 08:30:20 -0700


> >Hey! I have to say that Keoki is not as good as Orbital.
>
> Well from what I understand he is a pedophile that likes
> little boys...so he
> loses all respect from me at that point....

Keoki spends more time on packaging his CDs then on his music.

My current favorite 'semi-non-commercial' DJs are:

Mark Farina
Gavin Hardkiss
Paul Van Dyk
Paul Oakenfold (seems to be quite popular in the UK)

If anyone just happens to come upon 'Delusions of Grandeur' by Hardkiss,
please let
me know.  I found it on CD in Canada, but they wanted $30 for it.

Kind of off topic here... are you guys in the UK familiar with Eddie Izzard?
I saw
this guy on HBO last weekend and he's fucking hilarious!  Is the guy really
a
transvestite?  He was in drag.

- Ian



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) more reccomendations
Date: 24 Jun 1999 18:53:19 +0100


At 23:50 23/06/99 -0600, life kid wrote:

aphex....

>true. as i stopped buying his albums after SAW II. although, i must admit
some
>of his songs are cool. like, "on," "donkey rhubarb," "girlboy song,"
"flim" etc.

and the videos are great. Everybody should see 'Come to Daddy' and
'Windowlicker'.


>just some album suggestions here.

>plaid : "not for threes" (their only full length to date, since leaving the
>black dog)

except the new album 'Rest Proof Clockwork' out this week.

>lfo : "advance" (if you can find it, grab it)

I prefer 'Frequencies'. In some ways quite like early Orbital, ie pre-Halcyon

>underworld : "second toughest in the infants," or "beaucoup fish"

and 'dubnobasswithmyheadman'.

and my suggestions? CJ Bolland's 'Electronic Highway' (the last album he
made before the lure of easy cash for cheese got the better of him) -
upbeat techno with kind-of jungle-type drums. FUSE 'Dimension Intrusion' -
mellow (mostly), purer than Orbital. (boring fact: 'Theychk' uses the same
'what's wrong' sample as 'Out there somewhere'). Spooky's 'Gargantuan' -
more like the earlier Orbital stuff than Sniv or later. Classic (definitive
even) progressive house; and their 'Found Sound' which is more like Sniv
without the samples. 'Flux Trax' is an amazing compilation with Underworld,
APhex, FUSE vs LFO, and loads more classic techno. Essential really.
'Trance Europe Express' is great too, techno rioght from incredibly mellow
like Aphex's 'Analogue Bubblebath 3' to well hard stuff like Source's 'It's
a kind of magic' and most stuff in between. I always find compilations are
a great way to discover new artists.


cheers,
Jon

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Subject: Re: (orbital) more reccomendations
Date: 24 Jun 1999 13:47:53 -0500 (CDT)


On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Jon Green wrote:

> >plaid : "not for threes" (their only full length to date, since leaving the
> >black dog)
>
> except the new album 'Rest Proof Clockwork' out this week.

whoops! just saw this today at the local record store! anyone heard it?
thoughts?

> upbeat techno with kind-of jungle-type drums. FUSE 'Dimension Intrusion' -
> mellow (mostly), purer than Orbital. (boring fact: 'Theychk' uses the same
> 'what's wrong' sample as 'Out there somewhere').

which (just for the hell of it) is from the lucas film, "THX 1138." and
yes, the fuse (read = richie hawtin/plastikman) album rocks! i'd even go
so far as to say that the whole "artificial intelligence" series from warp
is something that everyone should pick up. and the "motion" video is
awesome.

> Spooky's 'Gargantuan' -
> more like the earlier Orbital stuff than Sniv or later. Classic (definitive
> even) progressive house; and their 'Found Sound' which is more like Sniv
> without the samples.

"gargantuan" is an incredible album! "little bullet part 1/2!!!" also, is
"found sound" the album with "mono" and "stereo" on it? i've been looking
for the album with those songs!

> 'Flux Trax' is an amazing compilation with Underworld,
> APhex, FUSE vs LFO, and loads more classic techno.

where the hell can you find this?!?

> 'Trance Europe Express' is great too, techno rioght from incredibly mellow
> like Aphex's 'Analogue Bubblebath 3' to well hard stuff like Source's 'It's
> a kind of magic' and most stuff in between. I always find compilations are
> a great way to discover new artists.

i always felt the first 3 were the best.

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Subject: Re: (orbital) more recommendations
Date: 24 Jun 1999 20:11:47 +0100


At 13:47 24/06/99 -0500, life kid wrote:
>
>"gargantuan" is an incredible album! "little bullet part 1/2!!!" also, is
>"found sound" the album with "mono" and "stereo" on it? i've been looking
>for the album with those songs!

only on the 'Stereo' EP. Which I spent ages looking for, and finally found
a 12". No CDs of it in London as far as I know...

>> 'Flux Trax' is an amazing compilation with Underworld,
>> APhex, FUSE vs LFO, and loads more classic techno.
>
>where the hell can you find this?!?

well I just got it in a shop when it came out in '95 or so.
http://www.sisterray.co.uk/ have it listed, other mailorder places in the
UK might well. But then you have to pay our ridiculous UK prices.


cheers,
Jon

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Subject: Re: (orbital) Re: afx and other music rambles
Date: 24 Jun 1999 15:45:10 -0400




On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:24:00 +0100 "Agust 'Nemesis1' Arni Jonsson"
<[e-mail]> writes:
>>>pet shop boys : "disco 2" (highly underrated. a great mix of
>remixes, mixed together by chris lowe himself)
>errr, not quite right, to quote the inlay:
>"disco 2 megamix and compilation by Danny Rampling"
>but yes, it kicks a mighty ass :) especially the 2nd half of it,
>absolutely fabulous (pun intended ;)
>
>>Got this one too, with the limited edition bonus CD - $14 plus
>shipping.

>bonus cd??? "$$#%)"#$%) what's on that one???

Pet Shop Boys - Disco 2

Disc One
Absolutely Fabulous (Rollo Our Tribe Tongue-in Cheek mix)
IWNDTKOT (Beatmasters Extended Nude mix)
IWNDTKOT (DJ Pierre Wild Pitch mix)
Go West (Farley and Heller mix)
Liberation (E Smoove 12" mix)
So Hard (D. Morales Red Zone mix)
Can You Forgive Her (Rollo dub)
Yesterday When I was Mad (Junior Vasquez Fabulous dub)
Absolutely Fabulous (Rollo Our Tribe Tongue-in Cheek mix)
Yesterday When I was Mad (Coconut 1 12" mix)
Yesterday When I was Mad (Jam & Spoon mix)
We All Feel Better in the Dark (Brothers in Rhythm After Hours Climax
mix)

Disc Two
Decadence
Some Speculation
Euroboy
Yesterday When I was Mad (Red Zone dub)
IWNDTKOT (7" mix)

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From: ccfpark <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Beaumont Hannant
Date: 24 Jun 1999 16:21:32 -0400 (EDT)


Anybody know where to buy Beaumont Hannant CDs - They are quite hard to
find, but the music is supreme!

Thanks,
Chris

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From: Aronne James Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Beaumont Hannant (and gemm)
Date: 24 Jun 1999 18:05:39 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from lists: 24-Jun-99 (orbital) Beaumont Hannant by
[e-mail]
> Anybody know where to buy Beaumont Hannant CDs - They are quite hard to
> find, but the music is supreme!

as far as I know, pretty much everything by this person (group?)
is out of print... which sucks really bad because I've heard
tons of great reviews of the music. Your best bet is probably
on the whitezone list, and cross your fingers for someone willing
to trade or sell thier copy.

you might want to try http://gemm.com
its an interesting site, basically loads of small music shops submit
their catalogs and you simultaneously search them all. Problem is that
I've heard that there is a lot of "bait and switch" type stuff.
In other words a store will add a lot of rare or out of print stuff
to their catalog, which they don't actually have, just to get you
over to their store.
I've only ordered 1 thing through gemm, which was an out of print CD,
and the place ended up not having it... so that's just my take on it.

With that being said, if you search for hannant you get a ton of hits,
but who knows how many of them actually are there.

oh, and from what little I've heard I think "texturology" is supposed
to be the best release.


Regards,
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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) please dont hate me
Date: 24 Jun 1999 21:56:48 -0700 (PDT)


is macro head out there somewhere on mp3?
thanks.
steve, dont hate me.

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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) things
Date: 24 Jun 1999 22:14:52 -0700 (PDT)


sorry to clutter everyone's e-mail but:
i just got the japanese radiccio with deeper and the halycon (edit)!
Thanks AJ!  sweet cd.
digger, checks in the mail.
trym, cd is in the mail.
check you all later.

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From: Brandon Invergo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) lc1, et al.
Date: 24 Jun 1999 22:31:22 -0700 (PDT)


ok, i finally heard lc1, and i'm just curious what's
going on at the end of it.  what's the deal with
having the opening part of chime playing at the end of
lc1?  where they originally mixed or something(i heard
it on the original satan single).  anywho, i got
middle of nowhere...i'll spare the review, but i will
say i'm very fond of way out and know where to run.  i
also landed a copy of amorphous androdgynous (i've
been looking for this for a while, kind of lazily
though; i never looked online).  that's pretty sweet
too.  one other question, for all you bt fans out
there: is ima good?  i have the other one, can't think
of the title right now, and i think it's one of the
better cds that i have bought recently and i'm looking
into getting this....

ramble ramble ramble

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From: Brandon Invergo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) 18+! shite!
Date: 24 Jun 1999 22:45:38 -0700 (PDT)


FUCK!  ok, kiddies, sorry, didn't mean to swear.
what's up with the chicago show being 18+ only?  it
doesn't say that anywhere on the internet, but when i
got my ticket today, it had the whole 18+ thing on it.
 shmibbitz.  well, looks like it's a fake id for me...

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From: AJ Brustein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) please dont hate me
Date: 27 Jun 1999 00:09:49 +0900


Sorry ,but whoever mentioned BT, I accidently deleted the email and I can't
respond to it. But, yea, his second album, ESCM (the one you have) is very
awesome. His first one IMA, (comes as a 1CD or 2CD) is equaly awesome. Plus,
the song Blue Skies is sung by Tori Amos and is a great song. Get it, it is
great. Make sure you get the 2CD set. BT's only problem is he is taking way
too long to release a new CD. He recently (many months ago) released a single
(2 CDs) called Godspeed. It is awesome BT, plus had a song on the GO
soundtrack. He is awesome, and I have every CD of his I have ever found. 13.
Anyway, do yourself a favor and get it. Later.
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Subject: Re: (orbital) deleted
Date: 25 Jun 1999 18:21:15 +0000


>Not all impossible, even now. :-) It's good to experiment with the
>way you look - I'm sure Omen will be sitting there in a small shop
>someplace

{snipety snip}

Yep, just brough a copy of Omen on 12" from a dodgy shop down an
alley in Leicester (UK).
Only cost me 5 uk pounds.
Good condition too ;-)

I am a very happy chappy:-)))))))))))

Regards

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From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Dr. Who?
Date: 25 Jun 1999 16:36:17 -0700



I've read that Orbital is doing some kind of Dr. Who mix into chime.. where
can I find this track?



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From: life kid <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) re: afx and other music rambles
Date: 25 Jun 1999 19:35:43 -0600


> >bonus cd??? "$$#%)"#$%) what's on that one???
>
> Pet Shop Boys - Disco 2
>
> Disc One
> Absolutely Fabulous (Rollo Our Tribe Tongue-in Cheek mix)
> IWNDTKOT (Beatmasters Extended Nude mix)
> IWNDTKOT (DJ Pierre Wild Pitch mix)
> Go West (Farley and Heller mix)
> Liberation (E Smoove 12" mix)
> So Hard (D. Morales Red Zone mix)
> Can You Forgive Her (Rollo dub)
> Yesterday When I was Mad (Junior Vasquez Fabulous dub)
> Absolutely Fabulous (Rollo Our Tribe Tongue-in Cheek mix)
> Yesterday When I was Mad (Coconut 1 12" mix)
> Yesterday When I was Mad (Jam & Spoon mix)
> We All Feel Better in the Dark (Brothers in Rhythm After Hours Climax
> mix)
>
> Disc Two
> Decadence
> Some Speculation
> Euroboy
>
these first three you can find on the second disc of "alternative."

IYesterday When I was Mad (Red Zone dub)WNDTKOT (7" mix)

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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) technical wizards
Date: 25 Jun 1999 22:29:46 -0700 (PDT)


yes, this is to you if you are a complete computer whiz.  or if you can
just answer my question.
If a link says it is to http://aca.com/orbital.ram  but upon clicking on
the link, it contacts a different place and plays a different .rm file
(e.g., http://www.dogpile.com/kick-ass-music/orbital.rm, can you get the
full address for the file?  Assuming you didn't know which folder to go
look in?  I want to find the .rm file for a great realvideo and I dont
know where to go look.  It's the video for Paul Van Dyk from Gatecrasher.
 The link comes up in Gatecrasher's shockwave site.  Under Gatecrasher
video.
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Subject: (orbital) Do it yourself MoN sticker & German release??
Date: 26 Jun 1999 14:34:19 +0000


My american friend visited me lately (the one that got me into
Orbital in the first place!) and he brought me a present: a MoN promo
sticker, on the back it says in small print: "Album out june 8th - on
tour in july, "Orbital - the world's best techno band" - URB" (Yeaah!
8) and on the front there's a big yellow circle saying "the middle of
nowhere" and "orbital", together with the shady creature in the lower
right side.. The Circle itself is cut out, so you are probably
supposed to just sticker that on something... which is rather
strange, as i think the shadowy man (who, speaking of it, sorta
reminds me of the beginning of the box video!) has to be there to
complete the thing.. so we suddenly got the idea, because the CD
itself has no printing on it whatsoever, that one is supposed to
stick this yellow circle with  the writing on the CD (it's got the
EXACT right size to perfectly cover that white circle on the CD!)...
Like they want YOU, the buyer, to complete the thing! 8) Or: just as
an option for people who let their CDs lie around without casing so
they knew which of the hundreds of totally untitled CDs is MoN (they
weren't *quite* the first to do this! >;-)

btw: for those who care, I realized that my version of MoN is not,
like i thought, an english import, but was actually MADE in Germany,
it says so in the ultra-fine pirnt on the CD and on the backside.
This is the first time , all my other Orbital stuff was either
imported or just marketed in germany! (btw: Tracklisting and order
the same, 'way out' with arrow, Otono! >;-)
The distributer is Warner Music, the number (hope that's the right
one) 3984-27194-2 (it also says EW 851 on the backside and IFPI L011
on the CD itself!)
I don't think this makes everyone's day, but hell, I thought i just
threw in an Orbital post on this list for a change (boohoo, woe me!
;-)

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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Plaid
Date: 26 Jun 1999 09:19:38 PDT


Ok, mad respect goes out to Steve Price for bringing Plaid into my life. I
picked up the new album yesterday, a little hesitant, but I did it anyway.
And wow, I must say, I was pleasantly surprised at what I found, a really
excellent album. This morning, I went down and got their first album, and
it(although different) is just as good. They are really what I've been
looking for lately; complex beats, melody, smooth at times, whacked-out at
times, great great stuff. I think everybody should give it a try! Anyway,
I've been playing that and the Mu-ziq's Lunatic Harness for the past two
days. Anybody else have thoughts on Plaid? Chao!

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From: Sean Granger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) technical wizards
Date: 27 Jun 1999 01:30:54 -0500


That's the genius of the Real format.... a .ram file is basically almost always the link file telling the Player where to go for the real goods. And also most probably it will be linking to a specific RealNetworks server (pnm://.....). That helps in terms of being able to go ahead and download or save any files that you shouldn't be. If a server is set up right, to stream of course, then you won't be able to go in the .ram file, then get the address and download it, you'll only get the file's header information. But if it's just been lumped on there by some chump, you can usually just download the file, especially easier on most web servers (http://...) and of course completely moronic on ftp servers (yes i have seen people link to them). i hope that helps you a little, if you need more just ask.

later,
granger

Mehul Parekh I:
>
>yes, this is to you if you are a complete computer whiz.  or if you can
>just answer my question.
>If a link says it is to http://aca.com/orbital.ram  but upon clicking on
>the link, it contacts a different place and plays a different .rm file
>(e.g., http://www.dogpile.com/kick-ass-music/orbital.rm, can you get the
>full address for the file?  Assuming you didn't know which folder to go
>look in?  I want to find the .rm file for a great realvideo and I dont
>know where to go look.  It's the video for Paul Van Dyk from Gatecrasher.
> The link comes up in Gatecrasher's shockwave site.  Under Gatecrasher
>video.
>Thanks.
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From: "Chris Livesey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury Live
Date: 27 Jun 1999 11:00:32 +0100


Hi folks,

Apparently the recored Orbital performance was braodcast on BBC Radio1 early
on Sunday morning between 4:30am and 6-ish (ridiculous, i know). Was anyone
mad enough to stay up and catch a good quality recording (prereably
MiniDisc)?
I'd be interested in a trading if it was a decent set, anyone know what they
played........?

Cheers,
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From: "Ez" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury Live
Date: 27 Jun 1999 11:29:04 +0100


Did anyone in the UK tape the Glastonbury performance on the radio or on tv.
I got in and caught the last five minutes on tv!  Shit...
If anyone did, mail me, I'm gutted enough that I had to turn down free
tickets, an then miss it on tv too...

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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital and Gescom
Date: 27 Jun 1999 04:36:25 -0700


My friend sayed that he say a trak or 12" called Orbital vs underworld
"Tribal Gathering"  Does anyone know what this is?  He thinks that it's a
trak they they teamed up on.
Also, are the Gecom ep's still being printed?  I have looked far and wide
for them and cannot find them.  Even in stores that have shit like Midnight
EP and the On remixes and pretty rare shit like that.
uh oh, orbital and Autechre in the same post.  Didn't mean to insult anyone.
:)

peace
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From: "Phil Blake" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury!
Date: 27 Jun 1999 16:01:48 +0100


What a set! It was worth staying up all night for. I got home from a wedding
at 2.30am and stayed awake (just) to tape the set from Annie Nightingales
show and YES, YES I managed to get Dr.Who on tape at last! You guys that
were at Glastonbury, I am so jealous! I'm interested to know how long and
what tracks were played as it was definitely not the full set. On the radio
broadcast, they played Style then went off for an encore then played Satan,
Dr.Who and Chime so I am sure they would have played alot more before the
encore. Please enlighten us when you return! Does anyone know if there are
any plans for the Dr.Who track. They also showed Dr.Who and Chime on the TV
broadcast last night on Beeb 2.

Excellent!

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From: Aronne James Merrelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Re: Gescom EPs
Date: 27 Jun 1999 11:34:45 -0400 (EDT)


Excerpts from lists: 27-Jun-99 (orbital) Orbital and Gescom by
"morpheus"@axionet.com
> Also, are the Gecom ep's still being printed?  I have looked far and wide
> for them and cannot find them.  Even in stores that have shit like Midnight
> EP and the On remixes and pretty rare shit like that.

I think the full list of EPs is :
Skam 2
Skam 3
Skam 7 (keynell)
keynell remixes (on warp, this was technically ae but really is
    gescom IMHO)
Motor (source)
Skam 10this
Skam 10that
Sounds of Machines our Parents Used (clear)

you should be able to get Ska10 this & that, and the Motor EP.
those are pretty recent and might still be in print, but are at least
available. You'll have to mail order, check bent crayon
(http://www.bentcrayon.com) or s://kimo (no website, E-mail
at [e-mail]; I know he did get a restock of both Skam 10's
a few weeks ago, but I don't know if he still has them)

The others are much older and pretty much all out of print - you'll
have to find a kind soul to trade you a copy (or CDr copy or something)

Oh yeah I'll also warn you that the Motor EP not at all your typical
ae or gescom sound. Very detroit / minimal techno sound. I still like
it, but a lot of people don't like that one.

Regards,
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital vs Underworld
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:10:39 +0100


At 04:36 27/06/99 -0700, morpheus wrote:
>
>My friend sayed that he say a trak or 12" called Orbital vs underworld
>"Tribal Gathering"  Does anyone know what this is?

maybe something to do with the 'Tribal Gathering' compilation which I
recall is listed at Hard To Find as by Orbital/Underworld/Prodigy or
something like that. Maybe it was a promo with Orbital and Underworld on,
just a guess though. I recall the tracks on the compilation weren't at all
rare so if I'm right, it's probably hardly worth chasing for.

> He thinks that it's a
>trak they they teamed up on.

The nearest to that I know of is the UW remix of Lush.


cheers,
Jon

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury - sun, blisters and a packed Jazz World Stage
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:42:41 +0100


All,

just got back from sunny Glastonbury.

I am a physical wreck (blisters over my feet, legs ache, dirty, smelly, lack
of sleep) ...so before i head off to a well earned rest...just got to say
that the Jazz World stage couldnt have been any more packed than it
was...the crowd stemmed back to the outside pathways...and they were well up
for a good time.
The sound was impressive considering the sound engineers had no monitors
until Halcyon came on. Their was no other problems...and the crowd reaction
at Glastonbury was as ,expected - MAD!

Off to bed - excellent weekend :)

Steve LOOPZ Price
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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glas makes 4
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:47:16 +0100


mmm, my 4th show in 3 months, yummy. yup folks, they were wicked again,
especially from the very front. if you see the broadcast, i'm the one at the
front from about half way thru, with an orange orbital tshirt and a whistle
:) oh, yeah, and a friend and i snuck backstage after the show and spoke to
the brothers, who most kindly signed my t-shirt :) woo hoo :)

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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) glastonbury
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:58:30 +0100


i don't know if anyone else noticed, but at the middle of the speaker block
about half way through the set, one of the speakers just leapt right off the
others onto the floor. i was pretty impressed :)

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From: Mark S-D <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) my loose ends
Date: 27 Jun 1999 23:07:26 +0100


>From: ccfpark <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (orbital) Beaumont Hannant

>Anybody know where to buy Beaumont Hannant CDs - They are quite hard to
>find, but the music is supreme!

I'd like to know whats actually out there, I have Sculptured (LP), Notions
of Tonality (EP), and there is Utuba on AI2. And theres Texturology which I
havn't...and is there two versions of this LP both that look very similar ?
I really like everything he's done...I have the same problems with finding
it, wish I could help.

Anyone know much about Coil ? The did an album called 'loves secret
domain', very experimental, innovative and quite strange ! Some of what
they have done is *very* impressive though and the last thing I heard they
were working on an album called energy is eternal, but it doesn't seem to
have appeared....

Good to see the recommendations, I havn't got much I could add really. The
Trance Europe Express 1-4 (Volume) and Ambient Dub Volumes 1-4 (Beyond)
were highlights for me, as far as compilations go, and the Artificial
Intelligence (AI) series from WARP. The Ninja Tune label have been putting
out some great stuff also, I think..but this tends towards hip hop and drum
and bass so it's not for the electronica purist if there is such a thing -
but 'BioRhythms' [1] on Network records would be and that is possibly my
all time favourite compilation LP !  I also really like Meat Beat
Manifesto, 'Subliminal Sandwich' was one of the more recent LP's..worth
getting especially if you can appreciate the more experimental side of
music like Aphex Twin etc...theres lots of things, I don't want to bore you
all to death though. :-)

I hope people don't get sick of hearing about Plaid now...I picked up the
new LP and I think it's wonderful. :-) I'm no good at reviews but on the
whole it's a lot more fun than the first LP, while still being complex and
subtle but not just for the sake of it - there is a lot of deep feeling
too, 'Buddy' is my favourite track at the moment I was honestly moved by
this record, and it's hard to pick favourites from the rest they are all
good - I have the same 'problem' with Orbital too, makes it really hard to
choose a top ten... :-) I'll be coming back to this record for sure.

Any reviews of Orbital at Glastonbury ? Any bootlegs ? <smile>

Thanks :-)

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From: Mehul Parekh I <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) chicago show
Date: 27 Jun 1999 17:46:07 -0700 (PDT)


this may have been asked but I never got any answers, so I am curious.
Concerning Congress Theatre, what is the seating and stuff like?  Is it
first come, first serve?  Or do we really have to sit in assigned
seating? How free are we to move around?  What about the odds of meeting
the brothers Orbital?
Thanks all.

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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) trance-ishness
Date: 27 Jun 1999 21:03:42 -0500 (EST)


well, i've been wanting to pick up that oakenfold "cream" comp, but so far
can't find it anywhere for less than $30. damned imports.

what i'm really looking for is some good trance that's a little harder
than oakenfold and a little less hard than, say, juno reactor. anyone have
any djs/groups they can recommend? what is paul van dyk like?

i heard sasha/digweed's "expeditions" and thought it was way too
lightweight. but i've heard good things about their northern exposure
stuff. what should i buy?

can somebody explain why it is nearly impossible to find ae's lp5, but i
see ep7 in every record store i go in? does that makes sense?

sorry, i'm feeling fidgety cuz i've been looking for music all day and
can't seem to find anything i like. arg...

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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) trance-ishness -Reply
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:36:06 -0700


Nub wrote:
>>>[snip] what i'm really looking for is some good trance that's a
little harder
than oakenfold and a little less hard than, say, juno reactor. anyone
have
any djs/groups they can recommend?<<<

By all means get Seb Fontaine's double mix cd, Prototype.  First disc is
hard and snappy techno trance, second has upscale melodic or progressive
trance.  Superb.  It's an English import but it's only $16.99 at CDNow.
For what it's worth, they have some real audio samples at:
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1181442901/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/popsearch.html

Also look for the Platipus Dream Collection comp, and the Platipus
Collections 3 and 4.  No one has higher production values than the
Platipus folks, who perform under the project names Union Jack, Terra
Ferma [sic], Art of Trance, and others. Sumptuous sonics.


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From: "Skip Acuff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) trance-ishness -- correction
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:40:18 -0700


That Seb Fontaine set is $17.99, not $16.99.  Still a bargain.


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From: Matthew Ford <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) trance-ishness -Reply
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:41:44 -0700


Actually, this CD is so reasonably priced because its not an import-but is distributed in
the US by !K7 Distribution.  You should be able to find this in any store that carries
releases by Studio !K7 or Good Looking Records.

.matthewford.

Skip Acuff wrote:

> By all means get Seb Fontaine's double mix cd, Prototype.  First disc is
> hard and snappy techno trance, second has upscale melodic or progressive
> trance.  Superb.  It's an English import but it's only $16.99 at CDNow.
> For what it's worth, they have some real audio samples at:
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Subject: Re: (orbital) technical wizards
Date: 27 Jun 1999 06:56:56 -0500


Mehul Parekh I:
>"...
how can you get the
>full address for the file? "

Just download that little *.ram file to your computer.
Then open it with your favourite's text editor (i.e. notepad in windows or simpletext in mac).
Then, you will see the location -called 'url'- of the file you want to download.

If the file you want is very bIG (Megabytes) , you will probably may use some download softwares like 'getright' who are very useful, because you can download the file at 'pieces'. "One day a bit, tomorrow another bit", and so on.


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From: "Andy Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glasto
Date: 28 Jun 1999 08:52:53 GMT


Hello All

Did any of Orbital's set get played on Radio1FM this weekend? How
about Underworld's live set? I've been...errmmm...away from it all
this weekend and couldn't get to a radio. If they did appear on the
Radio and anyone managed to tape them then I'd love to swap a copy
for...well, whatever I have that you might want! I've got several
Orbital/Underworld live tapes from previous years...

Andy Jackson

: a n d y * j a c k s o n :
: l i b r a r i a n :
: s c h o o l * o f * n u r s i n g * a n d * m i d w i f e r y :
: u n i v e r s i t y * o f * d u n d e e :
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From: Chris Basford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury
Date: 28 Jun 1999 09:40:47 +0100


Hello,

Don't know if anyone else was lucky to have caught this footage, but BBC
Choice showed most of the last 40 minutes of the Orbital set on Sunday
night and it was truly splendid, especially when you see the
tracklisting :

The Box
Nothing Left
Style / Bigpipe Style
Satan
Dr Who (!)

They played about 4 minutes of Dr Who but then cut back to some other
band. Big shame really. Needless to say the whole set is on MD if anyone
wants a trade (no CD-R's or tapes)...



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Subject: Re: (orbital) Glastonbury
Date: 27 Aug 1999 23:52:24 +0000



On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:40:47 +0100 Chris Basford
<[e-mail]> wrote:

#
# Hello,
#
# Don't know if anyone else was lucky to have caught this footage, but BBC
# Choice showed most of the last 40 minutes of the Orbital set on Sunday
# night and it was truly splendid, especially when you see the
# tracklisting :
#
# The Box
# Nothing Left
# Style / Bigpipe Style
# Satan
# Dr Who (!)
#
# They played about 4 minutes of Dr Who but then cut back to some other
# band. Big shame really. Needless to say the whole set is on MD if anyone
# wants a trade (no CD-R's or tapes)...

Any chance of an mp3? (Or several, if its 40 minutes 'cos I reckon that
would be about 70 or 80 megs!)

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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) trance-ishness
Date: 28 Jun 1999 14:36:29 +0100


>what i'm really looking for is some good trance that's a little harder
>than oakenfold and a little less hard than, say, juno reactor. anyone have
>any djs/groups they can recommend? what is paul van dyk like?


pvd? lighweight!
yeah, i think i know what you're looking for. keep an eye out for lab4's
neurocide, the escape from samsara album, anything mixed by choci or mark
sinclair. if you want it harder, look for some stuff by the liberator djs,
like "it's f*cking avin' it 2", or stuff mixed by fury, energy or sharkey.
i think it's widely accepted that london is the leading edge for trance,
which works out quite well for me :)

>Also look for the Platipus Dream Collection comp,

platipus is lighter than oakenfold though - ideal for chilling out and
snoozing to, but too slow to dance to. i'd recommend it, but not if you're
looking for something hardish.

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Mccomb)
Subject: Re: (orbital) trance-ishness
Date: 28 Jun 1999 11:50:27 -0300


[e-mail] writes:
>can somebody explain why it is nearly impossible to find ae's lp5, but i
>see ep7 in every record store i go in? does that makes sense?


Not really!  Where I live (Vancouver), LP5 is everywhere, but I have yet to
find a single copy of EP7. Strange!

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From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) technical wizards
Date: 28 Jun 1999 08:30:17 -0700



XFileget .. www.2bsys.com will fetch RealAudio.. even if it's a redirect.
It will also tell you what the 'true' URL of the file is.

Another quick note about 2bsys.. they also make a RealAudio to .wav
converter.  The last version I tried absolutely destroyed the dynamics of
the song.  A loopback recording would sound much better.

> If a link says it is to http://aca.com/orbital.ram  but upon
> clicking on
> the link, it contacts a different place and plays a different .rm file
> (e.g., http://www.dogpile.com/kick-ass-music/orbital.rm, can
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From: Karl Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) E-mail
Date: 28 Jun 1999 12:12:25 EDT


Hey,
I was pretty much ignoring my e-mail because a lot of it was mumbo-jumbo.
When I decided, finally, to look at my e-mail 3 days later, I had 40 new
messages. I screamed. So, I looked at all of them, very lazily, and found
that a lot of them were telling how good ae's new cds were. Another grouping
was of some concert that Orbital played at some place (I don't remember very
well where they play). I guess that's what I missed ignoring my e-mail. I am
under the impression that they played Satan, Style/bigpipe style, Dr. Who,
The Box, etc. Someone mentioned that they got P+P's autograph. I am jealous.

>Orbital is playing some place in Massachusetts, US on July 9, or 10. My
>brother said that I could go. I'm excited, not that much though. I've never
>been to an Orbital concert before. Hasta luego!
Karl
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From: Robert Schultz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) E-mail
Date: 28 Jun 1999 09:41:08 PDT


What the hell did you just say karl? You aren't excited to see Orbital?!?!
Why not! I'm damn pretty damn excited to see them!!! If you aren't excited
to go, I'm sure there's someone out there that is, I could always just have
them go instead of you!(Just kidding, I wouldn't do that). But really, what
the hell does it take to excite you, man?  By the way, you could have chosen
a better quote from Hitchhiker's Guide. Something by Slartibartfast or
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From: "Daniel Kasaj" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) E-mail
Date: 28 Jun 1999 22:59:09 +0200


> What the hell did you just say karl? You aren't excited to see Orbital?!?!

if you two are sitting in adjacent rooms i'd have you both bitchslapped ;)
but what the hell...i guess if everybody else can talk non-orbital, then
you two can have familiy disagreements on the list too...

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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (orbital) E-mail
Date: 28 Jun 1999 23:11:22 +0100


this is cute :) hehehe

reece

>What the hell did you just say karl? You aren't excited to see Orbital?!?!
>Why not! I'm damn pretty damn excited to yadda yadda yadda yadda
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From: Reece H <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) halcyon + cricket
Date: 28 Jun 1999 23:55:03 +0100


just heard halcyon on a cricket advert on S4C (welsh version of channel 4).
what is it with sports ads/programs and orbital? has orbital sold out?
hahahah

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Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury - sun, blisters and a packed Jazz World Stage
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:42:41 +0100



All,

just got back from sunny Glastonbury.

I am a physical wreck (blisters over my feet, legs ache, dirty, smelly, lack
of sleep) ...so before i head off to a well earned rest...just got to say
that the Jazz World stage couldnt have been any more packed than it
was...the crowd stemmed back to the outside pathways...and they were well up
for a good time.
The sound was impressive considering the sound engineers had no monitors
until Halcyon came on. Their was no other problems...and the crowd reaction
at Glastonbury was as ,expected - MAD!

Off to bed - excellent weekend :)

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Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury - sun, blisters and a packed Jazz World Stage
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:42:41 +0100



All,

just got back from sunny Glastonbury.

I am a physical wreck (blisters over my feet, legs ache, dirty, smelly, lack
of sleep) ...so before i head off to a well earned rest...just got to say
that the Jazz World stage couldnt have been any more packed than it
was...the crowd stemmed back to the outside pathways...and they were well up
for a good time.
The sound was impressive considering the sound engineers had no monitors
until Halcyon came on. Their was no other problems...and the crowd reaction
at Glastonbury was as ,expected - MAD!

Off to bed - excellent weekend :)

Steve LOOPZ Price
Orbital Zine
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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Orbital vs Underworld
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:10:39 +0100



At 04:36 27/06/99 -0700, morpheus wrote:
>
>My friend sayed that he say a trak or 12" called Orbital vs underworld
>"Tribal Gathering"  Does anyone know what this is?

maybe something to do with the 'Tribal Gathering' compilation which I
recall is listed at Hard To Find as by Orbital/Underworld/Prodigy or
something like that. Maybe it was a promo with Orbital and Underworld on,
just a guess though. I recall the tracks on the compilation weren't at all
rare so if I'm right, it's probably hardly worth chasing for.

> He thinks that it's a
>trak they they teamed up on.

The nearest to that I know of is the UW remix of Lush.


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From: "morpheus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Freestylers and orbital
Date: 29 Jun 1999 01:27:45 -0700


Hey,

I have been frantically searching for The Freestylers "we rock hard" on
vinyl.  I was told by someone that they weren't going to be pressing
anymore, but he wasn't completely certain.  Can anyone tell me if this is
true or does anyone know of an online store that actually has it in stock?
Thanx

also, to make this Orbital related.  I am going to be flying to San Fran to
catch Orbital, is there anyone else going to that show who would be
interested in a meet up?  Also,  what's the venue like?  Is it general
admission?  I hope there are still tickets left, I'm getting mine tomorrow.
thanx

peace
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Subject: (orbital) Orbital vs Underworld
Date: 27 Jun 1999 18:10:39 +0100



At 04:36 27/06/99 -0700, morpheus wrote:
>
>My friend sayed that he say a trak or 12" called Orbital vs underworld
>"Tribal Gathering"  Does anyone know what this is?

maybe something to do with the 'Tribal Gathering' compilation which I
recall is listed at Hard To Find as by Orbital/Underworld/Prodigy or
something like that. Maybe it was a promo with Orbital and Underworld on,
just a guess though. I recall the tracks on the compilation weren't at all
rare so if I'm right, it's probably hardly worth chasing for.

> He thinks that it's a
>trak they they teamed up on.

The nearest to that I know of is the UW remix of Lush.


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Subject: (orbital) Glastonbury - sun, blisters and a packed Jazz World Stage
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:42:41 +0100



All,

just got back from sunny Glastonbury.

I am a physical wreck (blisters over my feet, legs ache, dirty, smelly, lack
of sleep) ...so before i head off to a well earned rest...just got to say
that the Jazz World stage couldnt have been any more packed than it
was...the crowd stemmed back to the outside pathways...and they were well up
for a good time.
The sound was impressive considering the sound engineers had no monitors
until Halcyon came on. Their was no other problems...and the crowd reaction
at Glastonbury was as ,expected - MAD!

Off to bed - excellent weekend :)

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Subject:  (orbital) Glastonbury 99
Date: 29 Jun 1999 11:16:45 -0500


I got this email from Tunnel Records and thought it might interest some
(notice the boys are included on CDR)...

Live Notes # 240 - Glastonbury 99 new Concert CD releases  + Nigel
Kennedy

06/29/99

This mailing may be delivered by your service provider as a text file
attachment - it is safe to download.

IN THIS ISSUE:
This is a list of new Concert CD releases, all but one related to
Glastonbury 1999.  As always, CDR's, where noted, are produced as such, and
are not copies made by ourselves. We do not make copies of any CDs.

Shipping costs are extra. Good hunting!


CDr    Barenaked Ladies Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 221
    $16.00
CDr    Beautiful South Glastonbury 99 w/bonus tracks
    ARTISAN ART 212    $16.00
CDr    Blondie Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 220 $16.00
CDr    Cardigans Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 218    $16.00
CDr    Fun Loving Criminals Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 209
    $16.00
CDr    Gomez    Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 216    $16.00
CDr    Green, Rev Al    Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 217    $16.00
CDr    Kennedy, Nigel The Hendrix Concerto Live    Milton Keynes
Bowl June 1999 ARTISAN ART 224    $16.00
CDr    Manic Street Preachers Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 215
    $16.00
CDr    Orbital    Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 211    $16.00
CDr    R.E.M.    Glastonbury 99 w/bonus interview ARTISAN
    ART 207 $16.00
CDr    Skunk Anansie Glastonbury 99 w/bonus interviews
    ARTISAN ART 208    $16.00
CDr    Super Furry Animals Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN    ART 219
    $16.00
CDr    Texas    Glastonbury 99 w/bonus interviews ARTISAN
    ART 214    $16.00
CDr    Travis    Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 210    $16.00
CDr    Underworld Glastonbury 99 w/bonus tracks    ARTISAN
    ART 213 $16.00
CDr    Vega, Bragg, Patti Smith & others Glastonbury 99 - the
acoustic bits Backstage acoustic sets ARTISAN ART 225    $16.00
CDr    Wilco    Glastonbury 99 ARTISAN ART 222    $16.00




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Subject: RE: (orbital) Glastonbury 99
Date: 29 Jun 1999 12:11:33 -0500


Sorry - I forgot the ordering info for Tunnel Records in case anyone was
interested.....

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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) ORbital @ Glasto
Date: 29 Jun 1999 19:14:32 +0100


Reece wrote >
>oh, yeah, and a friend and i snuck backstage after the show and spoke to
>the brothers, who most kindly signed my t-shirt :) woo hoo :)

I must have missed you by minutes!!!
I had trouble getting backstage despite Paul reserving 3 places under my
name - the Security people said they couldnt let anyone else backstage
because they were "closed"...silly twats! I managed to get Phils attention
on the stage as he grabbed some of his belongings...he then got his wife to
tell the Security i was on the guest-list. It gave me great pleasure
smirking at the Security Guards as i walked past muttering to them "not
closed now are u - u fuckers!"  :)))))

Reece - maybe next time eh! - (how many times have we said that!)
Total Eclipse gig ?

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Subject: Re: (orbital) ORbital @ Glasto
Date: 29 Jun 1999 14:20:07 -0400


>Reece wrote >
>>oh, yeah, and a friend and i snuck backstage after the show and spoke t=
o
>>the brothers, who most kindly signed my t-shirt :) woo hoo :)
>
>I must have missed you by minutes!!!

bah you guys are lucky.. the last time the guys were here was two years
ago..
why can't you guys come over here and bring the brothers with you.. we ca=
n
have a concert for like 10 people in my living room.. with the way my hou=
se
is, we even have a stage.. i'll write up the guest list :p

~plur~
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From: "Ian Mahuron" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (orbital) ORbital @ Glasto
Date: 29 Jun 1999 11:37:26 -0700



You guys make me jealous as hell.  I wish I lived in the UK.  I've yet to
see P&P live.  I went to LollaPalooza the year Orbital was on board.. but
they didn't play the show I went to!!  I did get to see Tool, James, The Orb
and Tricky though.  Adding Orbital to that show would have made it phenom!

Ian

> Reece wrote >
> >oh, yeah, and a friend and i snuck backstage after the show
> and spoke to
> >the brothers, who most kindly signed my t-shirt :) woo hoo :)
>
> I must have missed you by minutes!!!
> I had trouble getting backstage despite Paul reserving 3
> places under my
> name - the Security people said they couldnt let anyone else backstage
> because they were "closed"...silly twats! I managed to get
> Phils attention
> on the stage as he grabbed some of his belongings...he then
> got his wife to
> tell the Security i was on the guest-list. It gave me great pleasure
> smirking at the Security Guards as i walked past muttering to
> them "not
> closed now are u - u fuckers!"  :)))))



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From: Brandon Invergo <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) chicago show
Date: 29 Jun 1999 13:35:24 -0700 (PDT)


anyone going to the chicago show on the 4th and wants
to do a meetup, email me.  also, anyone going over 21
wanna help me get in since its 18+ only? grr....less
than one year to freedom.  :)

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From: "Fanno, Jeff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Off-Topic
Date: 29 Jun 1999 13:47:50 -0700



Sorry for being off-topic.  But I was wondering if the new Electronic
-Twisted Tenderness is any good?  I really liked the last two albums but I
can't decide if its worth paying an import price for this one.   I'd greatly
appreciate any reviews or comments.

Thanks,
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From: "Price, Steve A" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Loopz Remix Compo 1999 / Glasto Audio/Video / Orbital soundtrack
Date: 30 Jun 1999 00:35:55 +0100


All,

Glastonbury Orbital Live video footage/ audio samples and photos will be
online soon(ish)

Orbital/Loopz Remix Competition 1999 has now started - FULL rules online -
please visit the site for further details.

The 3rd promo of Nothing Left is out and details of this can be found on the
website under DISCOG and then NOTHING LEFT. Single is out July 5th 1999 - UK
only.

News of an Orbital TV soundtrack will be announced soon....

Dont forget the message forum is online - keep signing the guestbook as well
:)

Thanx

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From: Chris Basford <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Glasto / MD
Date: 30 Jun 1999 11:10:41 +0100


Hello,

I've heard the full version of "Dr Who" and "Chime" were played on Radio
1 over the weekend, if anyone has a copy of these on MiniDisc then I'd
like to trade it for a copy of the stuff from BBC Choice...

Thanks,

P.S. - The Choice coverage included - "The Box", "Nothing Left",
"Style / Bigpipe Style", "Satan" and about 4 minutes of "Dr Who"...



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From: "Trev" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Did any body go to Glasto
Date: 30 Jun 1999 12:56:23 BST


If you did and were at the front I was the guy with a mining headlamp
on my head it was truly a wicked set first time I've seen them live
after being a fan since age of 14.

Other highlights:
Lenny Kravitz and Fun Loving Criminals were also v. good live

If you jumped the wall did you see thoose scousers( no offence  to
any level headed liverpudlans meant) w***ers comes to mind.

Deep resepct goes to the young lads near the sacred space, that
helped me and 30 other peeople go under the second fence and kept
watch for security, without charging. Good to know there are still
good people outhere.

See ya next year
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From: Nub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) flame shield up
Date: 30 Jun 1999 13:04:18 -0500 (EST)


warning: this is a completely non-orbital-related full-autechre-content
message. read at your own risk...

i picked this up yesterday. i guess it's ae remixes of songs by an acid
jazz band called tortoise. there is no acid jazz left however, just your
typical good stuff from sean and rob - as the sleeve says, "mixed and made
by autechre." you might pick up a copy if you see one.

::::    Tortoise/Autechre
::::    ??? (remixes of "Ten-Day Interval")
::::    UK 12" City Slang, EFA
::::    US 12" Thrill Jockey, 12.11
::::    ??/??/98
A1    Adverse Camber
B1    To Day Retreival

cheers,
nub



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From: Jon Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) tortoise/ae
Date: 30 Jun 1999 19:28:37 +0100


At 13:04 30/06/99 -0500, Nub wrote:
>
>i picked this up yesterday. i guess it's ae remixes of songs by an acid
>jazz band called tortoise. there is no acid jazz left however,

tortoise aren't really acid jazz - "post rock" is what they're usually
called. There were some Derrick Carter remxes too, I think.


cheers,
Jon

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never know which house was yours."


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From: "Shannon K. Campbell" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Concert PREview for Chicago
Date: 30 Jun 1999 16:31:22 -0400


Hey All,

Last week, I posted a site for a map of the Congress Theatre in Chicago
for the 4th o' July show.

Didn't realise at the time that there was also a link in there for a
PREview of the Communist Tour and what to expect. Details about an 8 x
40 foot video scsreen are making me wet my pants in anticipation!

READ ON Orbiter!
http://chicago.sidewalk.com/detail/41064
[excerpt of above link]
"This tour will be the first-ever opportunity for American
audiences to witness the group's full-blown European stage set,
featuring an 8-by-40-foot projection screen and video images edited
live at each performance;"

CHAAAAARRRRGGGEEEE!!!!!

ShannON +ON +ON  :)
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From: Dan Colquhoun <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Getting to meet the bros.
Date: 30 Jun 1999 20:41:24 -0400


So, as I'm going to the Detroit show next week I was kinda itching to
try my hand at getting to meet the dynamic duo.  I've never really gone
to much of a large concert before, and never tried my hand at getting
backstage, the holy land of all things music.  Any tips?  I don't expect
a mad rush or anything, but I do expect security and lots of attitude.

So, Steve, the Price man, Mr. Loopz.  I'm afraid to ask this now seeing
that even YOU had trouble getting in, but is there some way for a nice,
quiet, calm, not going to cause trouble longtime fan to get his ass
guesslisted at this gig?  It's always worth asking (here's hoping I
don't start a flood of this).

Oh, and what would be a good way to get a nice momento from such an
occasion?  I'd assume that cameras will be taken at the door, and I
doubt they'd be keen on picures anyway.  And I don't want to have to
clutch a CD all night, although that would be sweet to have signed.  Now
I see the appeal of the t-shirt...

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From: "Mike George" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (orbital) Worcester gig
Date: 30 Jun 1999 20:52:49 -0700



Anyone fancy meeting up before the gig for a couple pints ? Me and a mate of
mine will be at one of the bars on main street sometime before the gig, I'll
either be wearing a  chelsea blue and white football shirt
frenchies,

Mike George ^EA^ on IRC




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