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- From: Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>
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- Subject: FAQ: The nz.* Usenet Hierarchy.
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- Summary: This Post details about the history and groups in the nz.* hierarchy
- as well as information on how to create new nz.* groups.
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-
- The nz.* Usenet Hierarchy FAQ
- -----------------------------
-
- Maintained by Simon Lyall (simon@darkmere.gen.nz).
-
-
- FAQ version number 107
-
- Created - Jul 5 2003
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 0.0 Table of Contents.
-
- 0.0 Table of Contents.
- 0.1 Recent Changes to this FAQ.
-
- 1.0 What is the nz.* hierarchy?
- 1.1 History of the nz.* hierarchy.
- 1.2 What nz.* groups are there?
- 1.3 Recent Traffic Statistics.
-
- 2.0 Recent Votes.
- - nz.test
- - nz.org.nzcs
- - nz.org.net-society
- - nz.org.isocnz
- - nz.org.ipenz
- - nz.soc.queer
- - nz.net.*
- - nz.reg.*
- - nz.soc.religion
- - nz.politics.announce
- - nz.reg.canterbury.general
- - nz.soc.maori
- - nz.tech
- 3.0 Bogus groups
- 4.0 Creating a new nz.* group
- 5.0 Sample Configuration Files
- 7.0 Netiquette in the nz.* hierarchy
- 8.0 Other Frequently Asked Questions
- - posting to nz.test
- - nz.wanted vs nz.forsale
- - Getting nz.* groups overseas
- - IBM
- - What is usenet.net.nz?
- 9.0 Credits for this FAQ.
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 0.1 Recent Changes to this FAQ.
-
- In Feb 2003
- - Updated for nz.soc.maori vote and addition
- - Updated with nz.org.isocnz removal
- - root@usenet.net.nz's pgp key no longer available via finger
- - Fixed version number
- - Fixed errors in Table of Contents
- - Updated for nz.tech vote and addition
-
- In Dec 2001
- - Updated where to get access to nz.* groups
- - Fixed up error with newsgroups stats.
- - Added nz.reg.christchurch.general to bogus groups
- - Updated wording on binary posts
-
- In June 1998
- - Removed nz.archives
-
- In May 1998
- - Added nz.politics.announce stuff
-
- In Apr 1998
- - Fixed nz.soc.queer charter
-
- In Mar 1998
- - removed reference to other hierarchies (most of them don't exist anymore).
- - updated for removal of nz.biz.misc.discuss and creation of nz.soc.religion
-
- In Feb 1998
- - New section of stats, updated each month.
- - New Netiquette section.
-
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 1.0 What is the nz.* hierarchy?
-
- The nz.* hierarchy is a group of Usenet Newsgroups that are primarily
- distributed within and to do with New Zealand, a country in the South
- Pacific near Australia. While the groups are mainly for New Zealanders
- at home they are also exported and can be read by people in other
- countries if their site gets a feed of them.
-
- This FAQ attempts to document various issues surrounding to nz.* groups
- including voting procedures and charters of various groups.
-
-
- This FAQ is also available from:
-
- http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/nz-news-hierarchy
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 1.1 History of the nz.* hierarchy.
-
-
- Mark Davies posted the following message (slightly edited) outlining the
- history of the current newsgroups up till March 95.
-
- ~From: mark@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mark Davies)
- ~Newsgroups: nz.org.net-society,nz.netstatus,nz.general
- ~Subject: Re: CFV process for creating NZ.* groups
- ~Date: 27 Mar 1995 23:06:30 GMT
- ~Message-ID: <3l7gdm$jh1@st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz>
-
- OK, Here is the creation story for all NZ newsgroups:
- nz.general
- nz.netstatus
- The original two. Created with no discussion (there was noone to discuss
- with) when we first started getting news in the country. They will be 10
- years old later this year (happy birthday to you ...)
-
- nz.arts
- nz.comp
- nz.rec
- nz.soc
- nz.soc.green
- nz.wanted
- nz.archives
-
- Created after a usenet BOF at a Uniforum NZ conference attended by many of
- the then news administrators. We got flamed about creating these without
- consulting the masses so introduced a voting scheme of two week period, 20+
- votes required, simple majority (I think, something like that anyway).
-
- nz.alex
-
- The vote was rigged and the newgroup was ignored (you had to be there)
-
- nz.molbio
-
- voted for and passed under the above voting scheme. The group was
- eventually removed due to lack of traffic.
-
- nz.politics
- nz.org.net-society
-
- voted for and passed under revised voting schemes allowing for the growth
- in the net population.
-
- nz.test
-
- A technical group created after discussion when a need was identified.
-
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 1.2 What nz.* groups are there?
-
- The following is a list of the currently recognized nz.* newsgroups. These
- groups should be covered by all sites that claim to carry the nz.*
- hierarchy.
-
-
- nz.arts
- =======
-
- Discussion of television, exhibitions and books etc. Traffic is fairly
- light and as with several of the smaller groups much of the traffic that
- would normally be expected to take place in this group goes on in
- nz.general instead.
-
-
- nz.biz.misc
- ===========
-
- This is a moderated forum for the posting of commercial messages including
- those advertising Jobs. All messages must follow a set format (see the FAQ
- posted to the group). The group is currently moderated by a team of
- moderators. Submissions should be sent to nbm@usenet.net.nz while the
- moderators can be contacted via nbm-req@usenet.net.nz.
-
-
- nz.comp
- =======
-
- Anything computer related.
- e.g. why modems need telepermits, Good computer companies.
-
- For-sale and Jobs posts should go to nz.wanted or nz.biz.misc.
-
-
- nz.general
- ==========
-
- The cesspool of the nz.* hierarchy, Everything tends to be discussed
- here with other groups only picking up the scraps.
- Examples: speed cameras, Shortland Street, Current affairs.
-
- If at all possible, you should use a more specialized nz.* group in order
- to make sure your post stands out from the clutter.
-
-
- nz.net.announce
- ===============
-
- This is a moderated group for posting important announcements on Internet
- links and services in New Zealand. The group is moderated to prevent chat
- and to reduce the number of unwanted posts. All discussion on posts to this
- group should take place elsewhere, usually nz.net.admin. The guidelines
- for posting to the group are regularly posted and the moderators' address
- is nna@usenet.net.nz.
-
-
- nz.net.admin
- ============
-
- This group provides a forum for the discussion of issues surrounding
- the Internet in New Zealand. Queries as to the status of various services
- should be posted to this group as well as follow-ups on posts to
- nz.net.announce. Discussion of newsgroups reorganizations with the nz.*
- hierarchy should also take place here.
-
-
- nz.politics.announce
- ====================
-
- nz.politics.announce is a moderated forum for the posting of official
- press releases, election results and announcements by Government bodies and
- other entities involved in the political process and government of New
- Zealand.
-
- Since the group is not intended as a discussion medium followups must be
- directed to another newsgroup (usually nz.politics) or to the poster.
- Articles will be crossposted only at the moderators' discretion and normal
- official announcements should not be crossposted to nz.politics
-
- The following (or their spokespersons) may post Official Information,
- statements, announcements and releases to the group:
-
- * Ministers of the Crown.
- * Members of Parliament.
- * Registered political parties.
- * Candidates in General and by-elections.
- * The Electoral Commission.
- * The Chief Electoral Officer.
- * The Registrar of Electors.
- * The Clerk of the Writs.
- * The Representation Commission.
-
- In addition the following may be posted
-
- * Administrative posts and Information about the Newsgroup
- * FAQs related to politics in New Zealand.
- * Announcements of online political resources, mailing lists, newsgroups
- and web sites.
-
- Posts must be in plain text and have a legitimate from address that will
- reach the author. Anonymous post are not accepted.
-
- Posts which contain substantially the same text may not be posted more
- than once every two weeks and the moderators may place a limit on a
- particular entity's posts provided this is not less than 10 posts and/or
- 30 kilobytes per day.
-
-
-
- nz.politics
- ===========
-
- All forms of political discussion relating to New Zealand.
-
-
- nz.rec
- ======
-
- Sports, games, and other outdoor and indoor activities.
-
-
- nz.reg.*
- ========
-
- Any posts which deal with things of interest to or about the area or
- region are welcome and on-topic in this group. This includes discussions
- of local activities and events, local non-commercial buy/sell/wanted
- posts, local issues and personalities and anything else that relates to
- the area covered by the group.
-
- The following things are not welcome:
-
- Binaries
- Chain letters, including "Make Money Fast" articles
- Known hoaxes (like the "Good Times Virus")
- Articles posted as separate copies to several newsgroups (spam)
- Articles excessively cross-posted (see below for details)
- Articles containing significantly more quoted than new content
- Duplicate/rapidly reposted messages
- Commercial messages of any kind.
-
- Also crossposts to any non-regional nz.* group are by definition off-topic
- unless a follow-up to only one group is set. If you are posting
- something in nz.general or nz.wanted then there is no need to post it in
- say nz.reg.auckland.general
-
- Crossposts to other regional groups may be appropriate if the post deals
- with something that crosses some regional boundaries. An example may be a
- post talking about using the Waikato River to supply water to Auckland.
- This may be appropriate for both nz.reg.auckland.general and
- nz.reg.hamilton.general.
-
- If it is cross-posted to more than four regional groups then it should be
- in nz.general/nz.politics/nz.wanted etc., as appropriate. Cross-posts to
- every regional group will be regarded as spamming and abusive behavior.
-
- Crossposts to other groups such as misc.transport.urban may be
- appropriate but in any case cross posts to more than four groups are
- considered unwelcome.
-
- An exception may me made to the crosspost limit for FAQs, CFVs and other
- administrative posts.
-
-
- nz.soc
- ======
-
- Social issues, traffic is very light.
-
-
- nz.soc.green
- ============
-
- All sorts of 'green' issues relating to the environment, many posts are
- articles forwarded from other publications or electronic forums.
-
-
- nz.soc.maori
- ============
-
- Any posts which deal with things of interest to or about Maori are
- welcome and on-topic in this group. This includes discussions of
- local/national hui and events, international enquiries, translations
- from and into Maori and English, promotion of Maori language, news and
- views, Maori initiatives, and anything else that relates to the area
- covered by the group."
-
-
- nz.soc.queer
- ============
-
- nz.soc.queer is a forum for the discussion of issues relating to the New
- Zealand queer community. It is a discussion group to cater for people who
- feel themselves to be excluded from the "straight" community because of
- sexuality or gender orientation issues. This includes, but is not limited
- to: gay men, lesbians, bisexual men and women, transgendered people,
- people in multiple-partnered relationships, friends of any of the above,
- and those who are curious or unsure.
-
- This is NOT a valid forum for discussion of the "correctness" or otherwise,
- of any of the previously mentioned orientations/preferences. Other
- newsgroups exist where this discussion can occur.
-
- This is NOT a valid forum for hate posts against the previously mentioned
- orientations/preferences.
-
-
- nz.soc.religion
- ===============
-
- Any posts discussing religion generally, specific religions, faiths,
- plus philosophy and ethics as it relates to religious backgrounds are
- all on-topic for this group.
-
- The following things are not welcome:
-
- Binaries
- Chain letters, including "Make Money Fast" articles
- Known hoaxes (like the "Good Times Virus")
- Articles posted as separate copies to several newsgroups (spam)
- Articles excessively cross-posted
- Articles containing significantly more quoted than new content
- Duplicate/rapidly reposted messages
- Commercial messages of any kind.
-
-
- nz.tech
- =======
-
- This is an unmoderated newsgroup.
-
- Examples of on-topic discussions could include:
-
- Design & Creation
- Implementation & Installation
- Set-up & Configuration
- Use & Abuse
- Maintenance & Repair
- Upgrading & Re-fitting
- Decommissioning & Disposal
-
- of technologies including, but not limited to:
-
- Infrastructure (Railways, electric lines, fibre-optic cables, etc.)
- Buildings (Houses, sky-scrapers, shopping-malls, space-stations, etc.)
- Vehicles (Planes, trains, automobiles, submarines, rockets, etc.)
- Home Appliances (Fridge-freezers, hair-dryers, dust-busters, etc.)
- Business Machines (Photo-copiers, chainsaws, assembly-lines, etc.)
- Leisure Equipment (Model railways, zambonis, fish-finders, etc.)
- Entertainment Systems (Video games, audio-visual equipment, etc.)
-
- In short, anything to which an electronics or engineering specialty
- applies (practical applications of the physical sciences) is likely to
- be an on-topic area.
-
- The following topics may be tangentially relevant in nz.tech, but
- should be taken elsewhere if they become central to a discussion:
-
- Computers and related software and equipment (On-topic in nz.comp.*)
-
- Artistic design (Fashion, advertising, cake-icing, landscaping, etc.)
- (On-topic in nz.arts.*)
-
- "Lifestyle" activities (Cooking, gardening, travel, etc.)
- The normal use of Leisure equipment (On-topic in nz.rec.*)
-
-
- What is not acceptable:
-
- - HTML posting
- - Binaries (post a URL instead)
- - Crossposting to more than 2 other newsgroups
- - Commercial advertisements
- - Auction advertisements
- - Flaming and ad-hominem attacks
- - Spam and chain letters
-
-
-
- nz.test
- =======
-
- For test posts. See Section 8.0 for more information.
-
-
- nz.wanted
- =========
-
- The place to post non-commercial For-Sale, Wanted, Looking for people and
- personals. See Section 8.0 for more information.
-
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 1.3 Recent Traffic Statistics.
-
-
- June 2003 nz.* Hierarchy Postings Statistics
-
-
- Newsgroup Articles Kilobytes
- ==================================================================
- nz.arts 14 26
- nz.biz.misc 0
- nz.comp 3457 6019
- nz.general 8221 18600
- nz.net.announce 5 59
- nz.net.admin 17 89
- nz.politics.announce 290 2039
- nz.politics 6045 15911
- nz.rec 16 21
- nz.soc 8 28
- nz.soc.green 34 114
- nz.soc.maori 120 285
- nz.soc.religion 202 1069
- nz.soc.queer 1166 3254
- nz.reg.bay-of-plenty.general 17 33
- nz.reg.auckland.general 173 356
- nz.reg.dunedin.general 348 599
- nz.reg.canterbury.general 409 943
- nz.reg.hawkes-bay.general 5 14
- nz.reg.northland.general 13 22
- nz.reg.manawatu.general 4 12
- nz.reg.hamilton.general 33 52
- nz.reg.nelson.general 7 16
- nz.reg.gisborne.general 5 15
- nz.reg.taranaki.general 39 71
- nz.reg.west-coast.general 7 19
- nz.reg.southland.general 21 34
- nz.reg.wellington.general 246 422
- nz.tech 372 679
- nz.test 39 37
- nz.wanted 359 562
-
- Total for all groups: 16560 38433
-
- Note: Each group's total counts all articles posted to that group, but
- crossposted articles are only counted once towards the overall total
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 2.0 Recent Votes.
-
-
- nz.org.net-society
- ==================
-
- This group was proposed by Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz> in late 1994
- to cover non-technical Net issues and also to provide a forum for the newly
- created Network Society. The number of votes required for it to pass was set
- at at least 50 total and of these two thirds had to be yes. The group easily
- gained this and passed by 106 to 6.
-
-
- nz.org.isocnz
- =============
-
- Don Neal <dneal@waikato.ac.nz> proposed this group in early 1995 to cover
- the New Zealand chapter of the Internet Society that was being setup at the
- time. It's vote was conducted under the same rules as the previous
- nz.org.net-society vote. It failed to be created when despite the large
- majority in favor ( 37:2 ) the minimum number of total votes (50) was not
- reached.
-
- Another vote was held a few months later and the groups was created after
- the vote passed 45:0
-
-
- nz.biz.misc & nz.biz.misc.discuss
- =================================
-
- These were created under a 2:1 & majority of 20 rule. Both just passed
- by 22:2.
-
-
- nz.org.ipenz
- ============
-
- This vote caused some problems. The proponent <Peter@nzeipenz.co.nz>
- posted a non-standard CFV after very little discussion and mostly
- negative feedback. There were several problems with the voting address
- with several people claiming that their votes did not get through. When
- the result was published there were also several votes from overseas
- addresses and one on behalf of someone else. General dissatisfaction has
- meant that the group has not been created.
-
-
- nz.soc.queer
- ============
-
- Mark Proffit <proffitt@iprolink.co.nz> proposed this group in late 1995
- after strong success of a similar mailing list. The vote was under a 2/3
- and 25 rules and passed by 53 to 2.
-
-
- nz.net.announce & nz.net.admin
- ==============================
-
- Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz> proposed these to replace
- nz.netstatus which many felt was becoming to cluttered with chatter
- which made it difficult to find important posts. After much discussion a
- two part vote was held. The first part was to split nz.netstatus into the
- two new groups and passed 58 to 5 while the second part was to moderate
- nz.net.announce and this passed 46 to 13. Both votes were under a 2/3rds
- yes and 25 difference rule.
-
-
- nz.reg.*
- ========
-
- The groups were proposed by David Farrar <david@home.net.nz> during late
- 1997 in order to give a place for local discussion and to replace several
- ad-hoc and poorly distributed local hierarchies. All groups passed under a
- a 2/3rds yes and 25 difference rule.
-
-
- nz.soc.religion
- ===============
-
- Proposed by Patrick Dunford <patrick_dunford@xtra.co.nz> and David Farrar
- <david@home.net.nz> in early to hold the large amount of religious
- discussion that was dominating nz.general. It passed under the 2/3rds yes
- and 25 difference rule.
-
-
- nz.politics.announce
- ====================
-
- This group passed 42:4 in early 1998.
-
-
- nz.reg.canterbury.general
- =========================
-
- Following complaints regarding religion spam nz.reg.christchurch.general
- was renamed to nz.reg.canterbury.general in April 1999. The vote was
- proposed by Duncan McCormack and Luke Pickering and passed 57 to 18.
-
-
- nz.soc.maori
- ============
-
- Was propose by Karaitiana Taiuru in late 2002 and passed 35 to 3.
-
- nz.tech
- =======
-
- Dane Hawker proposed the group in late 2002 (originally as nz.audio-visual)
- since non-computer technology was off topic for nz.comp. It was voted on
- in Feburary 2003 and passes 39:0
-
-
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 3.0 Bogus Groups
-
-
- The following groups may be present at some sites or may occasionally
- appear in the "Newsgroups:" header. However none of them are currently
- regarded as legitimate nz.* groups and should be ignored/removed.
-
- If you are aware of an ISP that carries these groups please ask them to
- remove them.
-
-
- nz.archives
- ===========
-
- Removed in mid 98 due to lack of on-topic traffic
-
-
- nz.biz.misc.discuss
- ===================
-
- Removed in early 98 due to lack of on-topic traffic
-
-
- nz.forsale
- ==========
-
- This group is not widely propagated and does not appear on the some of the
- official lists of groups. Most of the traffic in the group is international
- advertisers crossposting to *.forsale, use nz.wanted instead.
-
-
- nz.gen.kiwi.3tt
- ===============
-
- This group exists in the imagination of Neville D <ncd@3tt.kiwi.gen.nz>
- who has in the past put forward a belief that sites should have a
- corresponding newsgroup. This idea has not been well supported among the
- New Zealand Usenet community and Neville is regularly flamed when he
- crossposts his messages to this group.
-
-
- nz.molbio
- =========
-
- This group was originally created to deal with the subject of 'Molecular
- Biology' but it seems nobody was much interested in that subject so after
- a couple of years and almost no posts it was removed in early 1995.
-
-
- nz.netstatus
- ============
-
- Replaced with nz.net.*, see Section 2.0
-
-
- nz.org.ipenz
- ============
-
- Several problems with the vote, see Section 2.0.
-
-
- nz.org.nzcs
- ===========
-
- Failed vote, see Section 2.0.
-
-
- nz.org.net-society
- ==================
-
- Removed in late 97 due to lack of on-topic traffic
-
-
- nz.reg.christchurch.general
- ===========================
-
- Replaced with nz.reg.canterbury.general, See Section 2.0
-
-
- nz.org.isocnz
- =============
-
- Following the renaming of the Internet Society of New Zealand to
- InternetNZ this group and other forums being available for non-members to
- discuss it's activities this group became inactive. It was removed in
- early 2003 with the approval of InternetNZ.
-
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 4.0 Creating a new nz.* group
-
- The procedures for creating a new nz.* group are similar to that of
- creating a 'Big Eight' (ie news.*,comp.*,soc.*..) group except they are on
- a smaller scale and less formal. Below is a recommended procedure for
- creating a new group.
-
- NOTE: This is only a recommendation, their are *no* formal rules, however
- a group that passes using these procedures has a good chance of being
- accepted by administrators.
-
- I would be very happy to help you if you have any questions.
-
-
- (Borrowed from the Introduction to rec.arts.comics Newsgroups FAQ)
-
- Any proposed split or new group will have to be well justified:
-
- A. Is the group easily and clearly defined? Given any post, would it
- go in the new group or an existing one?
-
- B. Is current group traffic too high? Will the split reduce it?
-
- C. Will the split save time? There's no point in splitting if most
- people will read both the old group and the new group.
-
- D. Is there sufficient traffic already about the topic? Usenet is not
- "Field of Dreams".
-
- E. Will the topic exist for years to come? Newsgroups don't die so easily.
-
- F. Will at least a 2/3rds super-majority of voters want to create it?
-
-
- 1) Decide what you want exactly.
- ================================
-
- This means you should think about what sort of group you are after,
- answer to yourself questions like:
-
- * Does it need to be moderated?
- * Would a mailing list be a better idea?
- * Does the traffic justify it?
- * Would an International group serve the topic better?
- * Where should it roughly go?
-
-
- 2) Post a Request for Discussion (RFD)
- =======================================
-
- This should be crossposted to at least nz.net.announce, nz.net.admin and
- nz.general to insure that everybody will see it. Try an include as much
- information about the group as you can including a possible charter. If
- you want ideas on what to write take a look at news.announce.newsgroups
- and read the various RFDs and CFVs that are posted there.
-
- Note: nz.net.announce is moderated so there may be a delay of a couple
- of days before your RFD is sent, the moderators of the group may also
- contact you about the RFD to check some points.
-
- Don't forget to set your follow-ups to nz.net.admin since all discussion
- should take place there
-
- With a bit of luck you will get half a dozen people following up your
- RFD with "good idea, go for it" type messages and no critism whatsoever.
- However in the real world (or real Usenet in this case) you are likely to
- get several people questioning points you raise, pointing out silly
- spelling mistakes and generally trying to pick holes in your proposal.
-
- The thing to remember is to take account of what these people say. If
- they suggest another name consider the possibility. If they say that your
- charter is not clear enough on some point then try to make it clearer.
- Remember some people are naturally suspicious and will make the strangest
- assumptions from they see written in your RFD. The most important thing
- to remember is that the RFD has to stand by itself without any other
- explanations needed.
-
- At this point you might also like to consider finding some one to count
- the vote if you proposal goes that far. Ideally the person should be
- neutral on the topic(or at least seen to be), known to a few people other
- than yourself (a academic staff member is a good choice if you are at
- university) and familiar with the basic processes of Usenet and group
- votes.
-
- To assist in deciding what to put in your RFD you might like to check out
- the documents at:
-
- http://www.uvv.org/
-
-
- 3) 2nd RFD
- ==========
-
- If your proposal is pretty much accepted by everybody then you can skip
- this step and go straight onto the CFV. However usually you will have a
- few changes as a result of feedback from your first RFD. These should be
- incorporated in a 2ndRFD which is posted in much the same way as the first.
-
- Once again take account of any feedback and if need be you might even
- want to do a 3rd RFD if there are lots of changes in your proposal.
-
-
- 4) 1st Call For Votes (CFV)
- ===========================
-
- Once you have arranged everything with your vote-taker you should issue
- the first Call for Votes or CFV. Like the RFD(s) this should be
- cross-posted to nz.general,nz.net.announce and nz.net.admin (and other
- groups as necessary) with follow-ups directed to nz.net.admin. In
- addition the "Reply-To:" header should have the address of the
- vote-taker so people can send in their votes just be replying to the
- message. Take a look in news.announce.newgroups for examples of CFVs and
- how to structure them.
-
-
- 5) 2nd CFV
- ==========
-
- This should be sent out about a week after the first CFV and be pretty
- much identical. It is merely to ensure that people who missed the first
- CFV have a chance to vote.
-
-
- 6) Important points for the vote-taker
- ======================================
-
- * All votes should be acknowledged by Email, this is so that the voter
- knows that his/her vote has got through and been counted by the vote-taker.
- If a vote is not acknowledged within a day or two by the vote-taker the
- voter *must* assume that the vote has failed to get through and should
- re-vote. This should be spelled out in the CFV.
-
- * The vote-taker must not tell anyone (including the proponent) about the
- number or nature of the votes received while the vote is taking place. If
- this is done so the vote is immediately null and void. Obviously is
- some circumstances it may be necessary to discuss the vote with other
- people (such as ones system administrator if possible forged votes are
- being administrated) but in all these cases no indication of the overall
- result should be given.
-
- * Only one vote per person and one vote per account. Anonymous votes
- should not be accepted, nor proxies or votes from 'system' accounts (such
- as root or postmaster) unless a name is attached. Also votes where the
- acknowledgement bounces should be treated with suspicion.
-
- * It should be stated before-hand if votes from outside *.nz will be
- accepted.
-
-
- 7) The Result
- =============
-
- After voting has closed the the vote-taker is satisfied as to the
- legality of the votes received (and discarded any illegal ones) he/she
- should determine the result.
-
- Please note: The exact number of votes needed to create and nz.* group is
- currently still under debate. These numbers given below are around those
- that have been suggested. In any case the exact numbers for needed for a
- particular vote to succeed should be listed in the CFV.
-
- The vote should be counted as having passed if the number of YES votes is
- at least twice the number of NO votes *and* there are at least 25 more
- YES than NO votes.
-
- After the result has been determined the vote-taker should post it to all
- the groups the the CFV was posted to (with appropriate follow ups) and
- list the names of all the voters and which way they voted.
-
- If there are no major disputes the group(s) voted in favor of should be
- created.
-
- To make sure you vote has the best chance of being created after a
- successful vote has occurred you should get Mark Davies
- <mark@comp.vuw.ac.nz> and root@usenet.net.nz to both send out messages
- to create the group.
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 5.0 Sample Configuration Files
-
-
- This section is for news administrators to enable them to carry the correct
- nz.* groups. It contains a checkgroups file and for those sites that run INN
- control.ctl and moderators file entries are included as well as the PGP key
- used to issue control messages for nz.* groups.
-
- The checkgroups entry for nz.* is as follows, in order to run this by hand
- you can use the "docheckgroups" program included in the INN distribution.
-
-
- --cut-here--
- nz.arts Discussion on the Arts.
- nz.biz.misc Moderated group for commercial postings. (Moderated)
- nz.comp Computing and computers.
- nz.general General information, announcements, etc
- nz.net.announce Status of Local & International Networks (Moderated)
- nz.net.admin Administrative issues to do with the National Network.
- nz.politics.announce Political and government announcements. (Moderated)
- nz.politics Politics
- nz.rec Recreation.
- nz.soc Social issues.
- nz.soc.green Environmental issues.
- nz.soc.maori Discussion of Maori related topics and issues.
- nz.soc.queer Discussion of issues related to the NZ queer community.
- nz.soc.religion Eternal debates and discussion
- nz.tech Gadgets, electronics and technology in New Zealand
- nz.test NZ hierarchy test messages.
- nz.wanted Requests for sources, information, ...
- nz.reg.bay-of-plenty.general Plenty to talk about in the BoP
- nz.reg.auckland.general All about the City of Sails and Region
- nz.reg.dunedin.general NZ's Edinburgh is discussed all right here
- nz.reg.canterbury.general Tales from the Garden City & Canterbury
- nz.reg.hawkes-bay.general The sunny wine capital of NZ
- nz.reg.northland.general Cyberdiscussion of the far North
- nz.reg.manawatu.general Palmie North and Wanganui on-topic here
- nz.reg.hamilton.general Where it's happening.
- nz.reg.nelson.general The top talk of the South Island
- nz.reg.gisborne.general First to see the sun each day
- nz.reg.taranaki.general Taranaki - the energy province
- nz.reg.west-coast.general There's gold in those postings
- nz.reg.southland.general Net Discussions frrrom the deep south
- nz.reg.wellington.general Absolutely positively capital posts
- --cut-here--
-
-
- The following are extracts from files used by the INN news-server.
-
- The following should be placed in the "control.ctl" file. This ensures that
- groups will only be created or removed if signed by root@usenet.net.nz.
-
- --cut-here--
- ## NZ (New Zealand)
- # Contact root@usenet.net.nz
- # PGP fingerprint: 07 DF 48 AA D0 ED AA 88 16 70 C5 91 65 3D 1A 28
- newgroup:root@usenet.net.nz:nz.*:verify-nz-hir-control
- rmgroup:root@usenet.net.nz:nz.*:verify-nz-hir-control
- checkgroups:root@usenet.net.nz:nz.*:verify-nz-hir-control
-
- --cut-here--
-
-
- The following key (identified as "nz-hir-control" ) should be added to the
- pgpring that your software uses:
-
- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
- Version: 2.6.3i
-
- mQCNAzNYhVkAAAEEAMtQi97id2CiV5TFAqB0xWP2S+4+dEx7lqvh/yXdAmMKHgUH
- UFckf6+Nm62JGjzAvInoKdRN59zL1dYoAB/ZHzthWOlOaleGWM729txFlk6JBuoW
- A/esv+P0BmG/RslIhp7Cyi9oySdFdQvUzd6RFBybJEC+Q0DCvvsII0K45VLFAAUR
- tA5uei1oaXItY29udHJvbIkAlQMFEDNYhVn7CCNCuOVSxQEBi/ED/3eZE6LDVYgA
- IlGgKn3jXK/vECvE3URq9XKdsBQovxEJz1AQEvhJuHzjap5JfbUTqqITZMfmqL6Z
- IOZeCdGGrKw/SqFRM5Knq1Km6uK2D84m2n2zepsvqHb4IDY6j03pZJAd0r2EAMV+
- QOVP7HJ8qn7hgFSiZUuu4Afr7v3K2qfb
- =aND1
- -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
-
-
-
-
- You can also place the following entry in your "moderators" file if you wish.
- It ensures that all posts to moderated nz.* groups are forwarded to the
- correct moderator at usenet.net.nz.
-
- --cut-here--
- nz.*:%s@usenet.net.nz
- --cut-here--
-
- This entry should be placed *before* a default entry at the end of the file.
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 7.0 Netiquette in the nz.* hierarchy.
-
- As well as general Usenet netiquette (see the introductory posts in
- news.announce.newusers) the nz.* groups have their own particular
- guidelines for posters.
-
-
- Finding the right group
- =======================
-
- Check through the list of nz.* groups (see section 1.2) for an idea of
- what groups there are and where best to post your article. Avoid
- crossposting if possible and go for the group most specific to your post,
- you should only post to nz.general if no other group covers the subject of
- your post.
-
-
- Crossposts & Multiposts
- =======================
-
- Avoid these if possible, if you crosspost your message to more than a
- four groups or send the same message several time then it will most
- likely violate the charter of the group(s) and annoy people. This could
- result in the articles being deleted, people posting rude messages
- (flames) to or about you and complaints being made to you Internet Service
- Provider (ISP). Depending on your ISP this may result in you losing your
- account.
-
- If you *must* crosspost an article you should set the followups to only
- one or two groups at maximum. Discussions crossposted to more than a
- couple of groups quickly become off-topic for some of them.
-
-
- Binaries
- ========
-
- Binaries are forbidden in the nz.* hierarchy. The large number of small
- sites that get nz.* groups and high costs of phone calls for many are the
- main reason behind this. A single picture can take up more space than a
- day's worth of nz.* posts . If you post a binary attachment to your post
- such as a picture, sound, movie orother file you will be violating this rule.
- Most ISPs will filter out the post and complaints may be sent to your ISP.
- If you wish to distribute a binary you should use an alt.binaries.* group or
- put it on a Web site.
-
-
- Commercial posts.
- =================
-
- These should be restricted to nz.biz.* groups. All other groups forbid
- these being posted. nz.wanted should be used for non-commercial
- advertising only.
-
-
- Test Messages
- =============
-
- Don't post test messages to discussion groups, use nz.test instead.
- Several sites will send you email letting you know that your post has
- reached them (this may take from seconds to a day or so). If you don't
- wish to receive email include the word "ignore" in the subject of your
- tests.
-
-
- General Guidelines
- ==================
-
- * Try to write your posts in clear english, don't forget to use a
- spell-checking program on your post before you send it.
- * Don't use HTML, and format each line to 75 characters
- * Be accommodating to other posters, remember that not everybody may share
- your beliefs, experiences or lifestyle.
- * Think before you flame someone or post when angry, remember that all
- posts are archived and something you post now can come back to haunt
- you in years time.
- * Respond via email if what you have to say is mostly if interest to the
- author of the original post. To that end you should post using your real
- email address.
- * Ensure that the newsreader you use generates standard conforming posts
- but remember that others may use newsreaders that lack useful features
- such as killfiles and threading.
- * Read a newsgroups for a week or two before you post anything. This helps
- you to get an understanding of the culture of the group. Read the
- charter and FAQ (if it exists) for the group as well.
- * Avoid sending messages or posting articles that are no more than
- gratuitous replies to replies.
- * Read all of a discussion in progress (thread) before posting replies.
- Avoid posting "Me Too" messages, where content is limited to agreement
- with previous posts. Content of a follow-up post should exceed quoted
- content.
- * If you've posted something and don't see it immediately, don't assume
- it's failed and re-post it.
- * If you post to a moderated nz.* group remember that it may take a day or
- more before the moderator processes your article.
- * Keep your signature file short, about 2-4 lines. You can use this space
- to tell a little more about yourself, to add witty sayings to your
- articles, or to advertise your web site or business.
-
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 8.0 Other Frequently Asked Questions
-
-
- Here are a few FAQs relating to Usenet in New Zealand, please let me
- know if you are aware of any others or have additional info on the ones
- already listed.
-
-
- How do I post to nz.test?
- =========================
-
- nz.test may be posted to the same way as another unmoderated nz.* group,
- however there are several sites ( Waikato, Victoria & Auckland
- Universities plus others) that automaticly send you a message so that
- you know that your posting software/newsfeed is working. To prevent
- these sites from responding to your posts include the word "ignore" in
- the Subject.
-
- If the article leaks overseas you might also get responses from many
- sites around the world to you post. To prevent this you could try setting
- the distribution of your article to "nz".
-
-
- Should I used nz.wanted or nz.forsale?
- ======================================
-
- You should use nz.wanted for all posts including 'For-Sale' notices.
- nz.forsale is a bogus group is carried on very few sites. Messages of a
- commercial nature should be avoided in nz.wanted. The nz.biz.misc group was
- created for these.
-
-
- How do I get nz.* groups outside of New Zealand?
- ================================================
-
- Google provide a web based interface to most newsgroups via
- http://groups.google.com/ , The nz.* groups are under:
- http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=nz
-
- Most pay Usenet providers carry the nz.* newsgroups, A list of them
- and a guide to using them is provided by Jeremy Nixon at:
- http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/providers/
-
- The Open Directory also has another list at:
-
- http://dmoz.org/Computers/Usenet/Feed_Services/
-
-
- Usenet New Zealand will also provide cheap/free read access or feeds of the
- nz.* hierarchy (and others), contact Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz> for
- details.
-
-
- What is usenet.net.nz?
- ======================
-
- The alias usenet.net.nz has been created to help with some admin issues
- with nz.* groups. So far it is only used for moderated nz.* groups but
- in the future other services will hopefully be based from it.
-
- ------------------------------------
-
- Subject: 9.0 Credits for this FAQ.
-
-
- * Simon Lyall <simon@darkmere.gen.nz>
- Maintainer and misc text.
-
- * Mark Davies <mark@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
- Providing a history and statistics also helping to get Usenet started in
- New Zealand in the first place.
-
- * Lin Nah <l.nah@auckland.ac.nz>
- General comments.
-
- Other Information from:
-
- David Chamberlain <david@leguer.demon.co.uk>
- Ash Nallawalla <ash@home.melbpc.org.au>
- Terry Bowden <bowden@vnet.IBM.COM>
- Alan Brown <alan@manawatu.planet.co.nz>
-
-
-