home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feeder.nmix.net!feeder.swcp.com!news.swcp.com!dmckeon
- From: Dmckeon@swcp.com (Denis McKeon)
- Newsgroups: news.groups,news.newusers.questions,news.software.misc,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,alt.config,alt.answers,news.answers
- Subject: Moderated Newsgroups FAQ
- Supersedes: <moderated-ng-faq-1-1082962980@swcp.com>
- Followup-To: news.groups
- Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 07:03:02 +0000 (UTC)
- Organization: Connemara - Computing for People - ABQ/NM/USA
- Lines: 929
- Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.EDU
- Expires: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 00:00:00 -0000
- Message-ID: <moderated-ng-faq-1-1084345381@swcp.com>
- Reply-To: Dmckeon@swcp.com (Denis McKeon)
- NNTP-Posting-Host: yagi.swcp.com
- X-Trace: iruka.swcp.com 1084345382 15874 216.184.2.43 (12 May 2004 07:03:02 GMT)
- X-Complaints-To: usenet@swcp.com
- NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 07:03:02 +0000 (UTC)
- Summary: Newsgroup moderation methods and concepts described for new users,
- prospective new moderators, newsgroup proponents and opponents,
- and anyone who wants to discuss an RFD or CFV that proposes
- moderation for a newsgroup.
- Keywords: moderation, moderator, moderated, newsgroup, policy, charter, RFD,
- CFV, automatic moderation, robot moderator, robo-mod, retro-mod
- X-Posting-Frequency: posted on the 12th and 26th of each month
- X-Content-Currency: This FAQ changes over time. When a saved or printed
- copy is over 3 months old, please obtain a new one.
- Originator: dmckeon@yagi.swcp.com
- Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu news.groups:482126 news.newusers.questions:726111 news.software.misc:4144 news.admin.net-abuse.usenet:609792 alt.config:427416 alt.answers:72846 news.answers:271185
-
- Posted-By: auto-faq 3.3 beta (Perl 5.004)
- Archive-name: usenet/moderated-ng-faq
- Posting-Frequency: twice monthly
- Copyright: Copyright 1996,1997 by Denis McKeon
- URL: http://www.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html
- URL: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/news/moderated-ng-faq
- Last-change: 11 Mar 1997 by Dmckeon@swcp.com (Denis McKeon)
- Version: 0.7.01
-
- # Here is a current draft of my FAQ on moderated newsgroups
- # with comments & notes placed to the right of hash(#) marks.
- #
- # I would be happy to get suggestions for changes to this draft,
- # preferably structured as replacement text, or as diffs.
- #
- # Version 0.7.00 included many small changes/additions based on suggestions
- # from a number of people. Since the purpose of the FAQ is to describe
- # existing policies, and not to set policy, I posted diffs and a
- # request for comments from knowledgeable net.folk on some of the changes
- # and suggestions to news.groups and/or news.admin.net-abuse.policy
-
- Moderated Newsgroups FAQ
-
- This is for people who know a little about Usenet and other Internet
- newsgroups, and who want to know more about moderated newsgroups.
-
- If a proposal has been made to moderate one of the newsgroups you
- read, this FAQ should help clarify what moderation might bring.
-
- If you are considering volunteering to help moderate a newsgroup,
- you should read this FAQ and most of the things it points to.
-
- If you want to learn more about the process of creating or changing
- newsgroups, or to be the proponent for creating a new group or for
- changing the status of an existing group, see the FAQ section below.
-
- Table of Contents:
-
- Section 1 - Moderation in a nutshell
- Section 2 - Frequently Answered Questions
- Section 3 - Frequently *Argued* Questions
- Section 4 - What does it take to become a moderator?
-
- Expanded Table of Contents
-
- Section 1 - Moderation in a nutshell
- Q1.1 What is a moderated newsgroup and how does it work?
- Q1.2 What happens to articles in a moderated newsgroup?
-
- Section 2 - Frequently Answered Questions
- Q2.1 So where did my message go?
- Q2.2 What are some possible problems for moderated groups?
- Q2.3 Moderation seems like a lot of work - is it worth it?
- Q2.4 What is robo-moderation?
- Q2.5 Where can I learn more about the newsgroup creation process?
- Q2.6 How about more on Usenet, moderation, robo-moderation, etc.?
-
- Section 3 - Frequently *Argued* Questions
- Q3.1 Are there any alternatives to moderation?
- Q3.2 Will a moderated group have slower propagation of messages?
- Q3.3 How does moderation differ from censorship?
- Q3.4 How are changes made to a moderated group?
- Q3.5 Could changes be forced upon a moderated group?
- Q3.6 Can moderation be accomplished retro-actively?
-
- Section 4 - What does it take to become a moderator?
- Q4.1 What is the absolute minimum needed to act as a moderator?
- Q4.2 Can one act as a moderator: from a PC? off-line? over POP?
- Q4.2 over PPP/SLIP? without a shell account? without knowing Unix?
- Q4.3 What resources do most active moderators have?
- Q4.4 What software tools are useful for moderation?
- Q4.5 Is knowing Unix optional? Does it help to know Unix?
- Q4.6 What moderation tools are available in non-Unix environments?
- Q4.7 Can you moderate from an on-line service? (AOL, CIS, etc.)
-
- Section 1 - Moderation in a nutshell
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q1.1 What is a moderated newsgroup and how does it work?
-
- In unmoderated newsgroups, the local news server software normally
- makes messages posted to the newsgroup available for reading soon
- after they are posted, and the messages then spread to other news
- servers over the next few days.
-
- In a moderated newsgroup, the local news server software
- will automatically e-mail the message to a moderation address,
- where a moderator acts as a gatekeeper, posting to the newsgroup
- only those messages which the moderator allows to be posted.
-
- The basis of moderation is the consent of the users of the group,
- in Usenet, by the vote on the charter and moderator(s).
-
- In the 8 Usenet news hierarchies (comp, rec, soc, sci, misc, news,
- talk, & humanities) a moderated newsgroup is created by the same
- RFD/CFV (RFD: Request for Discussion, CFV: Call for Votes)
- process used to create or modify other newsgroups, with the
- difference that the RFD and CFV will include language specifying
- moderator(s) and moderation policy. (See the Guidelines)
-
- Non-Usenet news hierarchies (alt.*, <national>.*, <local>.*)
- may have other rules (or no rules) for group creation and change.
- Look in their groups - usually *.config or *.general - for FAQs.
-
- All moderated groups are generally handled in the same way by
- local news server software, regardless of their news hierarchy.
-
- Moderation is usually proposed for a newsgroup to:
-
- decrease the volume of off-topic posts and/or cross-posted threads
-
- increase the significant on-topic content of posts
-
- and thus increase the "signal-to-noise" (S/N) ratio for the group.
- For a more detailed discussion of these issues, see:
-
- Newsgroups: news.lists,news.groups,news.answers
- Subject: List of Moderators for Usenet
-
- There are 280+ moderated groups in the 8 Usenet hierarchies,
- mostly in comp., soc., sci., and rec.; and about 80+ in alt.*.
-
- Some parallel models for moderation are:
-
- a refereed scientific journal
-
- a publication with a small subscriber base and an unpaid editor
-
- a restaurant with a polite but determined doorman
-
- Note that while the moderator controls the day-to-day content
- of a single medium - newsgroup, mailing list, journal, etc. -
- the moderator does not control the entire topic area.
-
- For instance, the readers could migrate to a related newsgroup
- or mailing list, and discuss the topic area there.
-
- Also note that when we say the moderator "approves" a message,
- we just mean that the moderator allows the message to be posted
- to the moderated newsgroup, and not that the moderator agrees
- (or disagrees) with the content of the message, or the position
- of the poster on any issue, and so forth.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q1.2 What happens to articles in a moderated newsgroup?
-
- When someone tries to post a news article to a moderated group,
- the local news server software automatically intercepts the post,
- and e-mails it to a moderation address for processing by the moderator.
-
- If the local news software cannot handle this, the poster could
- manually e-mail the article to the moderation address directly.
-
- Once the message reaches the moderation address, it may be handled
- by a human moderator, or forwarded to one of a panel of moderators,
- or filtered by some form of moderation software.
-
- If a message is approved and posted by a moderator, it appears on the
- moderator's news server and then spreads to other news servers.
-
- Note that newsgroup moderation has some similarities to mailing
- list operation - messages go to a hub, and are then redistributed.
-
- An attempt to cross-post a message to a moderated group and to other
- newsgroups will go to the moderation address for the moderated
- group, and will not show up in any of the other groups on the local
- server unless and until the moderator approves it as a cross-post.
-
- An attempt to cross-post a message to more than one moderated group
- will go to the moderation address for one group, in most cases,
- the moderated group that appears first on the Newsgroups: line,
- and will be handled further as that moderator chooses.
-
- Each moderated newsgroup is operated independently from other
- moderated newsgroups, and the procedure used by each moderator
- to handle messages is probably unique to that news group,
- although some techniques are in common use by many moderators.
-
- Some common techniques include:
-
- a moderation address different from the moderator's personal mailbox
-
- some scripts or programs to aid in manually handling messages
-
- some automatic ("robotic") process for handling messages
-
- a way to distribute messages to one or more of a panel of moderators
-
- Many of the earliest moderated newsgroups existed to distribute
- free or shareware software sources, so early moderators tended to be
- fairly astute about the workings of e-mail and net news, and capable
- of writing their own software to support moderation.
-
- More recently, as moderation has been adopted in less technical groups,
- moderators have tended to be well aware of the topic they plan to
- moderate, but less prepared to cope with the technical side of
- moderation, and are likely to recruit someone to help them with
- technical support of whatever scripts and programs they need.
-
- Moderated groups frequently have names that end in .announce,
- .moderated, .info, .answers, .research, or .reviews. Recently
- there has been a trend to create moderated alternatives to existing
- high-volume groups, so foo.bar.moderated joins an existing foo.bar.
- The .announce and .answers groups tend to contain only announcements
- or FAQs, while .info groups tend to have both of those.
- Moderated groups in sci.* and soc.* tend to be discussion groups,
- while in comp.* and rec.* they tend to be announcement groups.
-
- Section 2 - Frequently Answered Questions
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q2.1 So where did my message go?
-
- If you tried to post a message to a moderated group, and never saw
- it appear in the newsgroup on your news server, realize that it may
- have not been approved by the moderator as appropriate for the group.
-
- Also, e-mail, net news, and robo-mod software are imperfect, and
- human moderators are, after all, human. Your message may have
- failed to reach the moderator, or been lost in a system or disk
- crash, or been misplaced by the moderator, or been approved and
- then failed to propagate correctly via net news back to your site.
-
- You might want to look carefully at the Date: headers in recent
- messages in the moderated newsgroup, to see if other posts are being
- approved, and to get a sense of the usual turnaround time.
- Perhaps the moderator is busy with life, and approvals are either
- slow in coming, or are coming in batches. You might check another
- news server, or Deja News at http://www.dejanews.com/
-
- If, after you've waited a few days, and seen other articles approved
- that were probably submitted as the same time as yours, and you are
- sure that what you had to say is on-topic, on-charter, and is still
- important, you should probably send your message again, perhaps with
- a request for an acknowledgement. Newsgroup charters and moderator's
- policies will vary from group to group, and you should not expect
- a rejection note for every article that is not approved, especially
- if the article is off-topic or inappropriately cross-posted.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q2.2 What are some possible problems for moderated groups?
-
- Since messages are sent to a single moderation address, anything
- relying on that address is a possible single point of failure for
- the moderation process. However, most types of system failure are
- shortlived, and operation of the group can resume rapidly.
-
- Another possible problem is that the moderator will "burn out"
- - get exhausted from dealing with the volume of messages, questions,
- complaints, arguments, etc., etc. Having multiple moderators or
- being able to hand off the responsibility to a substitute can help.
-
- If the people posting to the newsgroup and relying on the moderator
- remember to be reasonable and courteous that can help a lot as well.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q2.3 Moderation seems like a lot of work - is it worth it?
-
- A lot of readers think it is worth it, and some moderators agree. :-)
-
- Since 1995 many proposals have been made to moderate previously
- unmoderated groups in the wake of increased volume of both on-topic
- and off-topic posts, widely cross-posted trolls, and a general
- perception that the signal-to-noise ratio of Usenet has been dropping.
-
- If you are a reader who wants to help the moderator of a group,
- volunteer to help - even if the moderation process is going just
- fine right now, your help might be useful later or in other areas.
-
- Other activities that can help add value to a newsgroup include:
-
- periodic posting of FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) files
-
- archive site(s) accessible by ftp, http, and/or e-mail, of:
-
- FAQ files
-
- other summaries or indexes of the topic or of old threads
-
- full text of old posts (perhaps threaded into hypertext)
-
- a gateway to/from a mailing list for people
- who can not (or will not) read Usenet posts.
-
- a digest and/or index mailing list
-
- technical support of (robo-)moderation for the moderator
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q2.4 What is robo-moderation?
-
- Robotic moderation, robo-mod, auto-mod, and using a mod-bot
- all refer to use of scripts or programs to process messages.
-
- Typically, messages arriving at the moderation address are examined
- to see if they fit criteria determined by the moderator, and if they
- do they are automatically approved and posted to the newsgroup.
-
- Messages which do not fit the criteria may be manually approved, or
- discarded as inappropriate for that newsgroup, or handled in some
- other way by the moderator, which may include changes to the criteria.
-
- For example, if a message arrives from a previously unknown poster
- (or e-mail address), the moderator may read the message and approve
- it, send the new poster a copy of the FAQ for the newsgroup,
- and add the poster's address to a list of pre-approved posters,
- so the poster's next message will be automatically approved.
-
- Or, the moderator might reject the message (as for a too-common FAQ),
- send the poster a copy of the FAQ file, and expect that the
- prospective poster's next message is more appropriate for approval.
-
- Commonly used robo-mod criteria might include:
-
- message is not a duplicate of a recent message
-
- message has new material in good proportion to quoted material
-
- message is from a known poster who can be expected to post well
-
- message contains words or phrases
- particular to the topic of the newsgroup.
-
- negative criteria might include:
-
- message is inappropriately cross-posted
-
- message is from unknown poster
-
- message contains words or phrases
- that trigger review by human moderator
- ("make money fast," "modem tax," "good times virus")
-
- For an example of a feature-laden and very security-conscious
- robo-moderation package, see:
-
- http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/robomod/robomod.html
- STUMP - Secure Team-based Usenet Moderation Program
-
- ftp://ftp.algebra.com/users/ichudov/pub/stump/stump.tar.gz
- STUMP sources
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q2.5 Where can I learn more about the newsgroup creation process?
-
- Introductory messages about Usenet in general are periodically posted
- to the newsgroup news:news.announce.newusers
-
- Messages describing the newsgroup changing process are posted
- several times a month with "How to" in the Subject: line to the
- newsgroup news:news.announce.newgroups
-
- To learn how Usenet newsgroups are created or changed through the
- RFD/CFV process (RFD: Request for Discussion, CFV: Call for Votes)
- look for these articles which describe the process in detail:
-
- Subject: How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup
-
- (subtitled: Guidelines for Usenet Group Creation
- and often referred to as the Guidelines.)
-
- Subject: How to Write a Good Newsgroup Proposal
- Subject: How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal
-
- Before proposing that a new Usenet newsgroup be created, you should
- first follow at least one newsgroup proposal debate from RFD to
- RESULT in news.groups, and follow and become familiar with the
- topics and readership of the 5 to 10 newsgroups or mailing lists
- most closely related to the topic.
-
- The Guidelines and other introductory articles are also available by
- anonymous FTP or with many Web browsers in one or more of:
-
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.groups/
-
- Look for filenames which are the Subject: lines
- with spaces replaced by underlines, thus:
-
- How_to_Create_a_New_Usenet_Newsgroup
-
- Or you can get them by e-mail by sending e-mail thus:
-
- To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
-
- send usenet/news.groups/How_to_Create_a_New_Usenet_Newsgroup
-
- For help on the MIT mail-server, send e-mail thus:
-
- To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu
-
- help
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q2.6 How about more on Usenet, moderation, robo-moderation, etc.?
-
- If your only access to information about Usenet is Usenet itself,
- then you should look in the newsgroup news:news.answers or in the
- other *.answers newsgroups and search for Subject: lines that
- contain key words for the topic you are interested in. Or, if you
- know which newsgroups handle that topic, look in those newsgroups
- for FAQ or "Frequent".
-
- If you have access to a World Wide Web browser, or to
- anonymous FTP, you can use the http or ftp URLs below.
-
- There are other Usenet documents available at one of several archives:
-
- ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/
- ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/usenet/
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/usenet/
-
- And at any of the *.answers archives, at:
-
- North America:
- ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.answers
- ftp://mirrors.aol.com/pub/rtfm/usenet
- ftp://ftp.seas.gwu.edu/pub/rtfm
-
- Europe:
- ftp://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/pub/FAQ
- ftp://ftp.Germany.EU.net/pub/newsarchive/news.answers
- ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/usenet
-
- Asia:
- ftp://nctuccca.edu.tw/USENET/FAQ
- ftp://hwarang.postech.ac.kr/pub/usenet/news.answers
- ftp://ftp.hk.super.net/mirror/faqs
-
- and for other countries - for details see:
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/news-answers/introduction
-
- Note that since use of the Internet has grown so rapidly recently,
- the archives at uu.net and mit.edu are often heavily loaded at peak
- times and may be slow to respond, or be unavailable - if so, try the
- other archives listed above, or you may find the URLs below to have
- faster response, although they are more likely to change over time.
-
- As general resources for the newsgroup creation process, see:
-
- news:news.announce.newgroups
- Calls for newgroups & announcements of same.
- (also messages on how to write proposals, etc.)
-
- http://www.duke.edu/ugm/ UseNet Group Mentors
-
- ftp://ftp.amdahl.com/public/uvv/group-mentors.html
- (reachable by e-mail at:
- mailto:group-mentors@acpub.duke.edu
-
- http://www.uvv.org/
- ftp://ftp.amdahl.com/public/uvv
- UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Information Center
-
- http://www.usenet.org.uk/guidelines.html
- Guidelines for Group Creation for uk.*
- (an easier creation method for a smaller net.community)
-
- For a somewhat dated reference to moderation, see:
-
- ftp://ftp.sterling.com/moderators
- USENET Moderators Archive
-
- ftp://ftp.sterling.com/moderators/handbook/handbook.draft
- Moderator's Handbook
-
- For examples of charters for existing moderated groups, see:
-
- ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/ archive of CFVs
- ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/
-
- or any of:
-
- http://www.duke.edu/~tfdpress/rfrpost.html
- rec.food.recipes Posting Guidelines
-
- http://www.bix.com/pub/os2ann/x2752.htm
- CFV: comp.os.os2.moderated moderated
-
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/misc-kids/misc-kids-info-faq/faq.html
- misc.kids.info FAQ
-
- http://w3.gti.net/director/rame-cfv.html
- CFV: rec.arts.movies.erotica moderated
-
- http://helper.tamu.edu/STAFF/cbarnes/hunting/admin/welcome.html
- Rec.Hunting Welcome & Charter
-
- http://www.anatomy.su.oz.au/danny/usenet/rec.arts.books.reviews/CHARTER
- rec.arts.books.reviews Charter
-
- http://www2.best.com/~ftmexpat/html/taxsites/mtm.html
- misc.taxes.moderated Charter
-
- For examples of charters for existing robo-moderated groups, see:
-
- http://members.aol.com/rastb5mod/mod_faq.htm
- rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated FAQ
- robo-mod, auto-approve poster list, panel of moderators
-
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/bngusenet/soc/culture/indian/_religions%3avaishnava%3afaq.html
- soc.religion.vaishnava FAQ
- robo-moderated with keyword list
-
- http://www.lds.npl.com/special/usenet/srm/index.html
- soc.religion.mormon
- robo and human moderated, with a panel of moderators
-
- http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/home/hpo.faq
- humanities.philosophy.objectivism
- robo-mod, single moderator
-
- http://www.brewich.com/org/srp
- soc.religion.paganism
- list-based robo-mod, panel, uses STUMP robo-mod package
-
- http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/creation/Charter.txt
- http://www.galstar.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/creation/Charter.txt
- soc.culture.russian.moderated charter -
- origin of STUMP robo-mod package
-
- For comic relief, see:
-
- http://www.kibo.com/kibopost/happynet_94.html
- The Happynet Manifesto
-
- Section 3 - Frequently *Argued* Questions
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q3.1 Are there any alternatives to moderation?
-
- This question is usually asked in response to proposals to moderate
- existing high-traffic newsgroups, in hope of avoiding moderation.
-
- Posters could use more descriptive Subject: lines, and change
- Subject: lines in their followups to better describe a changing
- subject, or use tags or keywords in Subject: lines, but this is
- usually more effective in a low-volume newsgroup with a strong
- sense of community, and less effective in higher-volume newsgroups
- that have a greater proportion of new posters, or of people who
- can not or will not change subject lines, or for people who use news
- software that ignores the References: header, and thus find it harder
- to follow discussion threads across a change in Subject:.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q3.2 Will a moderated group have slower propagation of messages?
-
- Like many things on the net, that depends. Specifically, it depends
- on the connectivity of the poster's site, the moderator's site, and
- each individual reader's site, and on whether everything is working
- normally and well among those sites.
-
- In general, hand-moderated newsgroups often have some unavoidable
- delay, while robo-moderated groups often have fast turnaround.
-
- If we assume that:
-
- a message travels faster by e-mail than by news
- from the poster's site to the moderation site
-
- the moderator's site is well-connected (for mail and news)
-
- the poster's site is less well-connected (for news)
-
- the moderation process incurs little delay (such as if it
- is a program set up to recognize messages from known posters)
-
- then a moderated group *might* provide faster propagation
- for that message than an unmoderated group.
-
- On the other hand, if a moderation address is at a poorly connected
- site, and the poster is at a well connected site, or if there is a
- delay of significant length at the moderation address, then the
- moderated newsgroup might have a greater lag and thus a slower pace.
-
- On the other other hand, readers of a group might prefer a slower
- paced newsgroup over a rapid-response group. In any case,
- anyone who volunteers to moderate a newsgroup should plan
- to work to reduce delay in the moderation process.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q3.3 How does moderation differ from censorship?
-
- People have been arguing this issue since moderation was first
- proposed as a mechanism for Usenet newsgroups around 1980. Some
- people see no difference between the two, some see moderation as
- good and censorship as evil, and other points of view abound.
-
- Before continuing, go find a dictionary, and look up "censorship."
- While you're at it, look up "editor" and "referee."
-
- To me, one way to view this issue is that while someone may want to
- post their messages to an audience, that audience may have chosen
- to have a moderator select which messages they will see, and thus
- the desire of an individual to post a message is outweighed by
- the desire of a multitude to have messages moderated.
-
- An analogy to moderation is that of a publication whose editor is
- paid by the publisher and (indirectly) by the subscribers to decide
- what to print and what not to print. Is the editor a censor?
-
- How about the newspaper that puts all the sports stories in one
- section, all the local news in another, and keeps the classified
- ads classified separately from the news and editorials.
- Is that organization by topic, or is it censorship?
-
- Another key difference is that censorship usually tries to
- disallow expression of certain views or topics in *all* media,
- while Usenet moderated newsgroups only disallow postings in
- one medium - a single newsgroup whose audience has agreed
- to a charter that often describes what is on or off-topic,
- and to a moderator and to the process of moderation.
-
- An extension of that view is that if there is some newsgroup
- in which an individual can post a message and be on-topic,
- then that individual and that message have not been censored.
-
- Since most newsgroups are not moderated, almost all moderated
- newsgroups will be topically related to some unmoderated newsgroup
- in which a post would be both on-topic and not subject to moderation.
-
- The discussion of differences between moderation and censorship has
- been erupting several times a year in news.groups for about 15 years.
- If you raise the topic again, try to bring some new material to discuss.
- I have tried to present a fair distinction, but freely agree that I
- usually support moderation of newsgroups.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q3.4 How are changes made to a moderated group?
-
- Changes to the moderation panel and to moderation criteria, scheme,
- procedure, or process are often carried out by the moderator(s)
- with the informal or tacit approval of the readership.
-
- A newsgroup could conduct its own votes on proposals for changes.
-
- Groups with a panel of moderators often have a procedure for
- replacing a retiring moderator, or for firing one of the panel.
-
- If the only or last remaining moderator wishes to resign, s/he might
- ask for volunteers, and either select one or more new moderators, or
- perhaps poll the users of the group on their preferences.
-
- If no volunteer is acceptable to the group, or, as has happened
- in a few cases, a moderator has vanished from the net without
- warning or explanation, the moderated newsgroup may be left silent.
-
- Few moderators have seemed to vanish, and there seems to be no
- accepted method to replace a moderator who cannot be found,
- although the RFD process seems like a reasonable approach.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q3.5 Could changes be forced upon a moderated group?
-
- The RFD/CFV process could be used to change the status of a group,
- including:
-
- to create a new group - moderated or unmoderated
- to moderate an unmoderated group
- to unmoderate a moderated group
- to re-organize a set of groups
- to replace a retired moderator, or one who has vanished
-
- but note that any RFD/CFV process would require:
-
- a minimum of 2 months
- a lot of work on the part of the RFD/CFV proponent
- possibly a new moderator (or panel of moderators)
- a (possibly contentious) discussion on the proposal
-
- There is no method currently available on Usenet to remove
- or replace a moderator who actively opposes replacement.
-
- The moderator of news.announce.newgroups is not likely to post
- a proposal for removing a moderator as long as he or she continues
- to give some sort of service to the newsgroup's readership.
-
- The closest alternative is to use a different newsgroup,
- or to propose creation of one with the RFD/CFV process,
- which requires a 2:1, 100+ margin. (See the Usenet Guidelines)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q3.6 Can moderation be accomplished retro-actively?
-
- To most people, newsgroup moderation means the process of
- filtering and approval-before-posting described above.
-
- Cancellation of messages by a third party - someone other than the
- poster or the poster's system administrator - after the message
- has been posted is sometimes referred to as retroactive moderation.
-
- Some on-line services and Fidonet use cancellations issued by
- service employees or by Fido sysops as a way of keeping discussion
- in their conference areas by their subscribers on-topic.
-
- While cancellation and moderation may seem superficially similar,
- there are strong sentiments in Usenet against third party cancellation.
-
- The net news protocols allow the sending of control messages,
- messages which contain instructions for news servers, usually to
- cancel or supersede other messages. This allows people to cancel
- messages sent by mistake, or sent in error to the wrong newsgroups,
- or to cancel a "for sale" ad after the item has been sold.
-
- The effect of cancel messages depends on how each individual news
- server site is configured - a site may honor or ignore a control
- message, or send a message on to a human for manual handling.
-
- Cancellation of messages is a touchy subject, because cancellation
- can be abused, and because it can be difficult to distinguish why a
- message was cancelled - was it because a message was posted to many
- groups, or because of who posted it, or because of the content of
- the message?
-
- It is generally accepted that people may cancel their own messages,
- and that ISPs or system administrators may cancel messages which
- originated at their site and which are inappropriate for some reason.
-
- It is generally accepted that a moderator may cancel messages
- posted with forged approval to a newsgroup s/he moderates.
-
- It is less accepted that a moderator may also cancel messages
- that the moderator (or a mod-bot) initially approved and posted,
- if the moderator later finds the message inappropriate for some reason.
-
- Since 1995, a number of people routinely issue cancel messages
- for messages excessively cross-posted or multiply posted to large
- numbers of newsgroups. (Such posts often are called "spam".)
-
- Cancellation based on the number of newsgroups an article is
- cross-posted or multi-posted to, or of binary posts in non-binary
- newsgroups, or of commercial advertisements in non-commercial newsgroups
- are often widely accepted as beneficial to the affected newsgroups.
-
- However, there is less agreement about cancellation based on content
- - such as whether a message is on-topic or off-topic for a newsgroup,
- a decision which is usually much more of an opinion or judgement.
-
- A key issue here is whether cancels are supported by the wide
- majority of the users of a newsgroup, and are issued by people who
- have the support of such a majority. If there is a sense of wide
- community support, retroactive cancellation could be effective in
- fostering on-topic communication in an UNmoderated group.
-
- However, use of retroactive content based cancels without wide
- support can often lead to meta-discussions about the cancels,
- which be worse for the signal/noise ratio than the cancelled posts.
-
- So, while newsgroup moderation and retroactive cancellation both
- rely on people making decisions about the content of newsgroups, the
- key elements that they should share are wide support, prior consent,
- an expectation of predictability, and a degree of accountability,
- and the key differences are that moderated groups are formally set
- up with a central moderation address, while groups that rely on
- retroactive cancellation are usually otherwise unmoderated.
-
- For more about cancellation of articles, see:
- http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/home/cancel.html The Cancel FAQ
-
- If you are thinking of cancelling other people's news articles,
- *for any reason*, you should check your internet provider's policies
- or "terms of service" first, or contact their support staff to see
- if they allow this activity, and to make them aware of your plans.
-
- Section 4 - What does it take to become a moderator?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q4.1 What is the absolute minimum needed to act as a moderator?
-
- connectivity, hardware, software, capability, time, and effort
-
- connectivity - an account with reliable mail delivery and news access
-
- hardware - a computer and a modem
-
- software - for connectivity, e-mail, and news
-
- capability -
-
- enough technical know-how to configure the software
-
- a working knowledge of mail and news RFCs
- (RFC 822, MIME RFCs, RFC 1036, son-of-1036, GNKS)
-
- the ability and access to edit or insert most of the headers
- on outgoing news messages
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q4.2 Can one act as a moderator: from a PC? off-line? over POP?
- over PPP/SLIP? without a shell account? without knowing Unix?
-
- Again, like many things on the net, the answer to all of these
- questions is: "Yes, but it depends."
-
- A moderated *discussion* group that expects fast (< 1 hour)
- turn-around for messages will have requirements different from
- moderated announcement groups that generally have no need for
- turnaround faster than 24-48 hours.
-
- At least one (low-volume) group is moderated from a laptop,
- under MS-Windows, with e-mail software downloaded from the net.
-
- Most moderators probably operate from a Unix host,
- but there is no requirement that they do so.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q4.3 What resources do most active moderators have?
-
- At the current state of the art of net news, a typical
- setup for doing moderation would include, either on the
- part of the moderator or the tech support person:
-
- familiarity with the topic and with the Usenet community
-
- several hours of spare time per week for at least a year
-
- an account with a well connected robust site
- (ISP, company, university)
-
- good relations with the system administrator of that site
- (awareness, permission, and any mail aliases needed)
- (ISPs may charge for hosting moderated groups or mailing lists)
-
- experience with two or more mail and news programs
- (e.g., Elm/Pine/Mush, procmail/formail, trn)
-
- familiarity with two or more scripting languages
- (e.g., Perl, Bourne/Korn/Bash shell, awk)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q4.4 What software tools are useful for moderation?
-
- An e-mail user agent that can:
-
- handle whatever volume of mail you expect
-
- sort, select, and filter incoming messages
-
- send selected messages to other programs,
- or save them in a readable file format.
-
- A news posting agent that can:
-
- produce RFC 1036 compliant news articles
-
- accept messages from other programs,
- or read them from an e-mail file format.
-
- insert and delete message headers
-
- do other header mangling as needed
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q4.5 Is knowing Unix optional? Does it help to know Unix?
-
- Yes and yes.
-
- Most of the tools to assist in moderation are available in a Unix
- environment, and if you plan to use a variety of scripts and
- programs to support the moderation process, you may want to use a
- Unix "shell" account to handle the moderation mail rather than a
- dialup IP (PPP, SLIP) account.
-
- On the other hand, if you have the tools to handle a volume of mail,
- posting news, and some scripting in a non-Unix environment, go for it.
-
- If you are comfortable with the Unix environment, and
- you have been thinking of setting up your own home Unix box,
- and you have a reliable mail/news connection, go for it.
-
- The key word is *reliable* - group readers may accept a small loss
- of messages, but a loss of more than a few percent between the
- net and your moderation process would likely be seen as unacceptable.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q4.6 What moderation tools are available in non-Unix environments?
-
- # example set-ups wanted for DOS, Windows 3.1*,95,NT, Mac, OS/2, VMS, others.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Q4.7 Can you moderate from an on-line service? (AOL, CIS, etc.)
-
- I have not found anyone who does among 300 or so moderated groups.
-
- To act as a moderator, you will need to have write access to most of
- the headers on outgoing news messages - and most on-line services
- will not allow a normal user to mangle those headers.
-
- If it were possible to access those headers, there are other issues:
-
- You would probably want to down-load all prospective messages,
- process them off-line, and then upload the resulting approved news
- postings and any e-mail responses (FAQs, rejections, etc.)
-
- If you want a short delay, and a short message turnaround time,
- you would be faced with repeating that process 4-6 times per day.
-
- Doing that in a menu-based environment could become tiresome quickly,
-
- I would not say it is impossible to act as an effective moderator in
- that sort of environment, but I would not try it. I think it would
- very likely be easier in a less structured environment - such as a
- shell account. Contrasting reports from anyone moderating an active
- newsgroup from an online service are welcome.
-
- end of Moderated Newsgroups FAQ
-